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Eritrea: UN Sanctions In Limbo

The UN Security Council-imposed sanctions on Eritrea are trapped at UNSC in a situation that an observer described as, “From quid pro quo to tit for tat.”

Impact of the four year old UN-imposed sanctions against Eritrea is increasingly hampering ordinary financial transactions, tourism and travel services to and from Eritrea. These are critical sectors of the Eritrean economy as the country heavily relies on Diaspora remittances and tourism, on top of mining.

According to an observer at the UN, it is unlikely that the situation will improve any time soon because of the return of the cold war politics to the UN Security Council’s decision-making process. He stated, “Under the current climate at the UNSC, one of the P5 [permanent five] will likely exercise a veto power against either lifting or stiffening the sanctions. Besides, it is hard to procedurally unlink it from the Somali agenda.”

Even if Eritrea complies, it appears the sanctions will remain an albatross on Eritrea for the foreseeable future. The observer further added, “Remember, this was a political indictment initiated by IGAD [the Horn of Africa’s “Inter-Governmental Authority on Development”] and unanimously supported by AU [African Union] on [President] Isaias for thumbing his nose at the international community for too long and, as such, it did not require much efforts to reach a consensus then. But now, with the events in Crimea, things have evolved into an impasse.”

Despite the impasse, however, member states, especially US, Canada, Sweden, and recently Germany, have been enforcing the sanction and domesticating it in their laws as evidenced by events in the last two years.

The UN Monitors had reported that Eritrea relies on threats and coercion to extract the two per cent income tax it imposes on Eritreans living abroad. In Canada, the money transfer is facilitated by the Toronto-based Dominion Bank, commonly known as TD Bank, which wires it to the DZ Bank in Frankfurt, Germany.

In Israel, Eritreans are instructed to wire the money to the Commerzbank in Frankfurt and specify its purpose as “Urban Development Eritrea – Housing Project 2013.”

Both German banks subsequently route the money to the Housing & Development Bank which is owned by the ruling party of Eritrea.

After calls by Amnesty International on TD to quit handling the money transfers, TD Bank stated that it has rigorous controls and procedures that ensure compliance with Canadian economic sanctions regulations, but promised to investigate the allegations.

Last month, Gedab News learned that both German banks are under increased pressure from their regulators to sever their relationships with the Housing & Development Bank.

The Commerzbank and DZ Bank are, respectively, the second and sixth largest banks in Germany.

Last year, Canada expelled the Eritrean consul in Toronto after repeatedly warning the consulate to stop collecting the two percent tax from Eritrean-Canadians.

Impact on Lufthansa

In the airlines industry, Lufthansa has indefinitely canceled its Frankfurt-Asmara route that it maintained for over twenty two years.  The profitable route was one of the few options left for Eritrean travelers from North America and Europe. The reason given for the suspension was that Lufthansa was renegotiating the terms and condition of its contract with the Eritrean civil aviation.

But Gedab News has learned that the service was interrupted because Eritrea has ordered Lufthansa to stop its service for refusing to carry Eritrean diplomatic pouches. As a result, Eritrean postal and courier services were interrupted.

Last fall, Lufthansa came under increased scrutiny from German authorities after determining that Eritrea was abusing its diplomatic privileges by using the diplomatic pouches for illegally transferring money from its embassies to Eritrea.

The only two remaining international airlines operating in Eritrea now are Egypt Air and Yemen Airways. Both are likely to face similar scrutiny by international and regional authorities who monitor illegal money transfers and other activities in violation of the UN sanctions on Eritrea.

German authorities who now closely monitor Eritrean diplomats and individuals associated with the ruling party were tipped off by an Eritrean diplomat who defected recently.

Isaias’ shopping for alternative currency printing facilities, particularly in Sudan, is suspected to be a precautionary measure to avoid international scrutiny and in case the German company that prints Eritrea’s currency, stops doing so. The Nakfa exchange rate, officially set at 14 against the US dollar, is trading in the black market at 53 Nakfa to the US dollar.

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  • abraham

    Just a continuation of anti-Eritrean UN policies.

  • Rehmat

    Eritreans are suffering for their government’s alliance with the anti-Israel government in Tehran. In the good-old days president Isais Afwerki was called West’s great African ally. He was flown to Israel on an American plane for medical treatment in 1993. This was followed by opening of an Israeli embassy in Asmara on March 15, 1993. During the same time, Israeli prime minister Yitzhalk Rabin and Afwerki signed an agreement, which allowed the Zionist entity to establish its military bases on Dahlak islands and in the Mahel Agar mountains near the Sudanese border.

    However, in 2008, Afwerki made a big boo-boo. He met Iranian president Dr. Ahmadinejad in Tehran and supported Iran’s right to have a civilian nuclear program. All of sudden, the “good ally” became a vicious “dictator” who must be removed from power.

    http://rehmat1.com/2010/02/19/eritrea-from-israels-ally-to-a-rogue-state/

  • Semere Andom

    Breaking News:
    On the May 24 weekend, the American army created a chip that talked. The USA Army is known for break through like the Internet. Long before the Internet became mainstream the USA created the Internet and used it and now true to its innovation streak it created, funded an 8 bit chip that can talk and write in English. The protype did so good that the chip was in a testing phase for many years and now it can coherently write higher level languages, but the lucidity is inconsistent, although English is the first language that seared into its limited memory and today that chip did very good and the credit goes to three people from Eritrea with varying degree of expertise from different fields of the Military, Chemistry and Business. Although the USA military funded this project the country Eritrea is credited for enabling this chip for fluency, coherence and thought. The chip was conceived by many scientists from all the world, but the heavy lifting was done by three Eritreans tops on their fields and the bitter sweet May 24 has become little bit sweeter for the tiny Red Sea nation as three of its citizens collaborated with other minds to design this chip. One of the creator former Military Man named McSaleh said that the next step is to make this chip speak Tigrinya, one of Eritrean unofficial languages. McYounis, the brain behind the marketing and who first wrote the abstract says there is no market for a Tigrinya speaking 8 bit chip. McHidrat, the molecular chemist who was responsible for the durability of the chip in harsh climate of “Serray” believes that complete redesign of this chip is mandatory as this was made in haste and its lacks social groups, at this day and age to waste time designing 8 bit chip is farce. McHidrat prefers to die with his formulas and notes and equation instead of allowing this 8 chip to go to the market

    Sem

    • ALI-S

      Selam Sem,

      I actually thought you were serious until half way (:-). I hope the #2 is the other Younis. This time this Younis is actually looking forward to a Tigrigna speaking chip. Who knows it might speak better and more sensible Tigrigna than the Tigrigna in the market so far. Very funny thanks

  • Nitricc

    @ Mahmud
    My man; I have been following your discussion with Haile, Tes and Semere Andom.
    I can not help but say a word or two. It is my opinion you; Mahmud, scarifying the truth for human decency; respect and humility.
    All those things are noble and honorable but you are forgetting with people have no dignity, integrity and with people who don’t not know what be emphatic.
    So, you are not going no where. You credited them for never ” compromised for they country” I ask you what exactly did they not compromised about their country? If any, when things got heavy and no way out, you went in head on and you what you had to do, serve your people and never compromised about your country. That is your fault Mahmud; you should of opted like them to the west and be a slave to the whites as the are. It is your fault Mahmud; you should of abandoned your people and lived the life of the west. Now look what you have done after all the scarifying you did. Even you have decency to compliment them by saying ” they never compromised about their country” the truth is they never compromised to miss a meal a day of in their life..
    Anyone who talk down Tegadelti; it is obvious their talking about their empty and meaning less life. Let screw them selves..
    You have nothing to apologize for. You did what you had to for nothing in return, you are the real living legend.
    Many humans will face their last days flashing back what life all about was; and for some it will be the most agonizing time over. They will die in double death knowing they accomplish nothing and it is to late nothing they can do. Then only hyena they reach out to Bering down the real people who used their time for something never vanishes; like Tegadalay.
    Some friend, you can not win. They are the nothing people but they could put you in defensive side of it. So, they are not worth your time.
    I know you got to be nice and all that but I don’t have to be. My mission is to tell the truth.
    And the truth is you way better than the people you are trying to appease.
    Way better. You don’t have to take this from them.
    You didn’t like the Ethiopian rule and you fought it with the mother of scarifying and if they like the PFDJ why can they pay the sacrifice and get rid of it?
    You see Mahmud, there is a problem. Don’t mind them because they never minded.

    • Mahmud Saleh

      Dear Nitricc: I asked them to go on their protest which I am fine with but you misquoted me; I said ” do not compromise on your country and your heritage.” As long as people are decent enough to respect the price our people paid for their country and do not render themselves instruments for foreign enemy, I will be open to listen what our young generation says about the present situation and to listen to them express their views the way they see it; let their young peers challenge them, just as you are doing it, here. I am not trying to appease anyone; I am learning as I keep interacting with individuals having different views. My position is to let young people debate it, from both sides; it’s hard for me to see things the way this new generation see it. I may have a say when pre-independence sacrifices get attacked or mutilated. My experience of post referendum Eritrea is limited. The stage is for you nitricc. Go for it. I will stay engaged and refine my knowledge. There are principles I do not compromise on:
      1. change will eventually come from within, all other efforts have influencing effects, positively or negatively;if done correctly they will have positive effects in expediting the change, and if done incorrectly, they will have a delaying impact.
      2. I do not call for any armed resolution to the problem; my experience tells me that revolutionaries turn to be bad statesmen.
      3. The current mode of struggle which based on hyperbolic agitation, bullying and intimidation does not work; our efforts should be crafted carefully in a way that grasps the fear and anxieties of Eritreans, if we can not do this, then there won’t be communication between the two camps; let’s try to get our message across the divide line; what is within the line is within the line anyway.

      • haileTG

        Selam Haw mahmud, I read all three entries you put forth in this subject (to Ali-S, to my Dejen’s clip and this one here) and I am trying to think of ways I can help untangle this one. From my experience, I know plenty of tegadelti in very high positions (senior government portofolio/minsters) and can tell you that they don’t compare well the body mass of tegadelti that turned life hell to Eritrean youth. The senior and also the older one’s are somewhat laid back and really hard for me to say they have any different personality than the average citizen. Then you have the tegadelti (senior or otherwise) that are in the forces who are the main architects of the current situation. And as you go down lower in the ranks, it really is hellish and majority of them would literally turn you off in their disparaging, rude, humiliating and selfish ways that finally made the people see them as invading forces currently occupying the country. In this regard, most of us regard them in comparison to all the previous invaders (including dergue) to be the worst of their kind, the most inhumane and excessively brutal and sadistic towards defenseless and helpless population that trusted them. In terms of the living conditions they created, Mengistu Hailemariam is by far humanitarian and pro-Eritrean people. That is truly shame.

        If you look at the way Eritreans use to oppose few years back, you’d notice tremendous anger, vengeance and rejection towards the regime side. Such must strike you as unnatural because Eritreans are not such type of people in general, majority supported the ghedli and still by far majority gave unreserved good will to tegadelti and helped the new government they installed. Today it is difficult to have many Eritrean youth and tegadelti in one room in the diaspora. You mention the notion of “being instruments to external forces” that may sound complete in your reasoning but rings the bell in mine and many others mind. It waxes the excuse that was used the regime to continue in its hold of power by any means. The burden of proof is with you of course but still it is hard to reconcile this serious differences by such kind of mutual suspicions.

        When you hear us criticize tegadelti in this manner, in the absence of recent experience in Eritrea, you may be too swayed towards defensiveness of ghedli. It is sad that you couldn’t appreciate ghedli is for all of us to defend but tegadelti resorted into wanton looting and destruction soon after independence. Making, in the process, the entire population to get the hell out before they come after them. Recently I was in Asmara, and when I personally experienced the sight of how the civilians get severely distressed and run en mass from tegadelti who block off the city block by block for giffa, and sometimes enter house to house completely humiliating and violating all dignities, gosh so easy to wish them instant death. They are inhuman in the way they talk to civilians in offices, they have better curtsy to animals than non-tegadelti Eritreans. I have a sister tegadalit, but it is hard to recognize it in family situation but the proof is in the pudding. You really have to go beyond intuition to see this. As a tegadalay, I can’t expect you to find it easy to believe most of this. But many Eritrean youth have been estranged from tegadelti and it is hard to see them as fellow citizens.

        Instead of AL-S writing a paper, it would have been unique and the first of its kind for you to really appreciate the silent suffering of our people and to be the first one to openly reject the ways of the tegadalay and take a stand with the people. Nobody has done that before. Tegadelti oppose the regime and accept the general fault of the regime but would like to have their cake and eat it at the same time when it comes to this major gulf and animosity as a result of their attitude and actions against the people (you may not know this but investigate). I could say a bit more, but wouldn’t wish to do so for now.

        regards

      • Nitricc

        Mahmud
        I have no problem for anyone to criticize Tegadelti or any one else. What I have problem is the degree of disrespect that is displayed those three. They don’t even have the gumption to differentiate between which Tegadaly got it all and which one got screwed. The Tegadaly sitting in that wealchair for decades what got to do with what the e three stooges mentioning? A Tegadalay who lost both eyes who is living in darkness for decades what got to do with what Semere Andom is bitching?
        What are the precent among Tegadalay who are on higher power and who are complitly got nothing to do with?
        So, my man the generalization is what got me. It is so stupid I did not expect from those three elites.
        As fas as you guys talking or discussing it is all good but I expect some decency and respectability from them.
        They have no idea what to be Tegadaly and what went Tegadaly went through? How can you judge?
        Oh, I remember a coward saying to ” I don’t have burn my self to know fire burns”
        I say yes; try it and let me know how it feels.
        Let’s have respect for some one who did what we can do.
        That is all.

  • saay7

    Selamat Eyob:

    You and I had this discussion before and it deals with the the phrase “ye fiyel weTeTe.” It’s making a comeback because it made a surprise appearance in Isaias Afwerki’s Independence Day address (you can hear it beginning at the 8:11 mark to get the context). You told me once who the artist is and why he always regretted that the Derg played his song every time it would announce it killed enemies of the State.

    For you young ones, once upon a time, before the Ghedli was the worst thing that happened in the history of the universe, Ethiopia (then including Eritrea) was governed by the Derg. The Derg killed people, and just before it did, it would play a song called “ye fiyel weTeTe” whose opening lines were the surreal “የ ፊየል ወጠጤ ዘጠኝ ትወልዳለች: ልጆችዋ ያርፋሉ እስዋም ትሞታለች::” (A goat gives birth to nine kids; they pass away, and she dies too.)

    Pavlov would have been proud: that was a fine example of stimuli conditioning: play it and watch the cold sweat run from us, the enemies of the State (those of us who didn’t have a gun, that is.) Now Isaias is using it in a different context; so your help is needed. What does he mean when he says that we have heard all the የ ፊየል ወጠጤ? Does he mean we have heard all the threats and intimidation? Is that its current usage? And, could you tell me who the artist best known for Fiyel WeTeTe is so I can test myself to see if it was his voice or the lyrics that were having that effect on me? Much obliged.

    saay

    http://youtu.be/mI16o_r7D2I?t=8m11s

    • Tesfabirhan WR

      Dear Saay,

      You always have fresh inputs. Thank you for introducing us. I am really surprised by the meaning of the introductory part, “A goat gives birth to nine kids; they pass away and she dies too.”

      This is what is happening to us.

      When parents die defore their kids, it is natural death, but when this is reversed, when parents bury their own kids (Let it be, though what Eritreans are facing is double death, even they are not even lucky to bury their kids) and and mourn it is against all.

      I am eagerly waiting more for this.

      hawka
      tes

    • Eyob Medhane

      Sal,

      I had a lot to say about ‘yefyel wetete, but I got your post at a time, where I was away on bisiness. I didn’t listen Isayas’ speech, but you could guess what he meant based on the correct and original stanza of ‘yefyel wetete’. Here is how it goes (you missed the first critical phrases) ‘Yefyel wetete Tikeshaw yabete libu yabetebet, Enewaga bilo linebir lakebet. YEMATREBA Fyel, zetegn teweldalech lijochwam yalqalu esuam timotalich’. I think the answer lies in phrases like “..tikeshaw yabete libu yabetebet…” (..the arrogant and big hearted, but in reality, insignificant, as yefyel wetete. ..) “..Enewaga bilo lenebir lakebet…” (yefyel wetete sent to the tiger to fight him..) “YEMATREBA fyel” (the useless fyel..) “…lijochwam yalqalu esuam timotalich. .” (…She will die along with her children. ..) From these phrases, you can draw what Isayas think of the Eritrean people. He probably thinks ya’ll are bunch of high hoping (tikeshaw yabete) but insignificant ( YEMATREBA fyel). He may think of you as someone, who he is burdened to save you all. He giveth constitution he taketh away constitution. :-)…When you complain, he may resemble you with the ‘YEMATREBA fyel’ and her children, who dies along with them for sending the tiger to fight her. All her attempts would be in futile. .. I hope you got my point. …

      P.S The original singer of ‘yefyel wetete’ is Yirga Dubale..(RIP)

      • saay7

        Eyobai:

        Epic! This is why memories are completely unreliable: I forgot the “yematreba” portion of the song and I said “yarfalu” instead of “yalqalu” (pretty sure yarfalu is used only for human beings:) But I never knew about the tiger…

        Thanks for the context: now I know why the damn goat died: she was daring to fight a tiger. The nerve! More importantly, the Derg was equating itself with a tiger and all the enemies of the state it killed with a goat. The piano wire it used to kill all the Eritreans and Ethiopians are akin to a tiger’s teeth…

        Nah, you are way off on Isaias’s speech: have to listen to it: the “yefyel wetete” portion is only 20 seconds long. Trust me that is not what he was saying: I think he is saying we have heard all the deadly threats and we are unmoved.

        Found Yirga Dubale on youtube. Sounds like a harmless dude singing traditional Amharic songs: here’s the one I am familiar with (at least the chorus Abeba abeba…) and never knew it was him. I always associate this song with homesick Tor Serawit in Asmara…

        saay

        http://youtu.be/fR0Cb7_-tmA

        • saay7

          PS, Eyobai, if you can’t take Isaias’s voice (and some people just can’t) you may find the answe here. It’s a song by Korchach, his latest “hiyab aleki”. Hush, he is somewhat of a fashion fanatic so no comment on his jacket:

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIgmH5wtBPE&sns=em

        • Selam saay,

          I remember when a group of people arranged a dance night, and we were to be entertained by one of the well-known orchestras of those days. We paid our money and we went to the dance hall at about 9.00 pm, with great expectations. To our surprise, we ended up listening to Abyotawi (revolutionary) music, with young girls of the orchestra making funny dance movements, which conveyed the revolutionary spirit of the time. We were dumbfounded and we did not know what to do. We could not participate in the dance, because we too had to make funny movements, to which we were not accustomed. The night would have ended without anybody going out to the stage to dance, had ιτ not been for somebody who found a solution, by bringing a tape recorder and a cassette with old and beautiful songs. Those
          were the days when music as an art had died in Ethiopia.

          Fortunately, they spared us from a version of የፊየል ወጠጤ, because as we know, it was a special song that was sang on special occasions, for the glory of the dictator.

        • Eyob Medhane

          Sal,

          I came back to my hotel room, and per your instruction, I listened Isayas speech. Though, I agree with your assesment, I stick with what I think Isayas thinks of the Eritrean people. He seems to think of you all as little slow minded children, who he is burdened to constantly to take care of. He seems to think that y’all are nothing with out him. In a clip that you wanted me to watch, right after ‘yefeyel wetete’ reference, women ulilated. What the hell was that for? These kinds of behavior that makes Isayas to think that he’s the only one that matters in that country, but everyone else is a robot, which he is the only one, who owns its remote control of…..That’s what’s weird, Sal….

          P.S, Yeah. Yirga Dubale was miskin harmless old man. Every time he got a chance to be interviewed, he never stopped talking about his song ‘yefyel wetete’ was used for a wrong purpose and he really regrets that. He went to his grave explaining and ‘regretting that…

          • abinet

            Eyob
            welcome back. Yefiyel wetete is kind of old . There is a newer one. I think it is by Tagel Seifu
            Abay molto, Tana molto esat yizorewal
            Yitefatat enji meche yishagerewal?

          • saay7

            Selam Eyob:

            You were doing so well with your analysis until you pulled a T.Kifle*

            The people were not applauding the fyel line; they were cheering the announcement of constitution 2.0. Can’t vouch for any claim that it’s spontaneous though.

            Saay

            * Pulling a Tkifle is blaming not Isaias/EPLF/PFDJ but the people of Eritrea.

          • T. Kifle

            Dear Sal,

            Note is been taken. “People get a government they deserve”

      • Pappillon

        Dear Eyob,

        Powerful! “…He giveth constitution he taketh away constitution…” It sure takes an outsider to see the sad and sorry state of Eritrea under a tyrant with an insatiable appetite for cruelty and contempt towards ‘his own’ people.

  • Pappillon

    While the tyrant and his stooges talk about “Constitution”, here is a grim reminder:

    http://www.worldbulletin.net/news/137176/scores-of-eritrean-refugees-enter-ethiopia-daily-unhcr

    • Saleh Johar

      Pappillon, I didn’t know god worked for the World Bulletin, reporting on Eritrean refugees:

      “Egziabher pointed out that refugees arriving from Eritrea were different from those coming from Somalia or South Sudan, where conflicts have forced thousands of refugees into neighboring Ethiopia.”

      • Amde

        Saleh,

        Today I understood the meaning of the phrase “God works in mysterious ways”

      • Pappillon

        ኣያይ ማዓረይ

        That is pretty funny. For some reason it escaped me. I am sure, the guy was too lazy to add the “Gebre” part.

  • said

    The writers of the Bible already knew this. They taught “Death and life are in the power of the tongue, and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof.” (Proverbs 18:21). Words convey clear message ideas. Words inform us, words have power, and words implant fact and concepts in the minds of their hearers and speakers. Once clear message is delivered, they are firmly established, everything else part of the plan that follows. To oppose the authorities, to advocate social change or even political reform was to place yourself beyond the law.” These words used by Tony Judt to describe life in Nazi- and this our situation today, there’s a lot of injustice taken place. One of many our problem in Eritrea and total absence of justice. We do not luck respected political scientist and political activist, or for that matter apologists, collaborators of dictatorship preserving and presenting the same rotten recycled political system. They have nothing to add to debate ,those few who still advocate with a good word to say about the DIA regime dictatorship and his achievement , supporters and collaborators they are ,repugnant, ignorant, regionalist and appalling , they do not see what went wrong, is heart of the issue, the total abuse of trust of power and bemused. Why even bother with them? But we’ve known that for a while. The same DIA regime that brought misery shouldn’t be surprising will eat sooner or later. the victim of a ruthless politics of expediency that would almost destroy them eventually get them one by one – a politics they now true fully admits fully of their making and creation. PFDJ they are known for Damage control and is a big part of their politics today. There’s a demand for virtually instantaneous action and respond. So Eritrean lives easily sacrifice has become imbedded in the culture and institutionalized. Eritrean patriot having being subdued through a series of brutal measures. Somehow Eritrean are enraged, almost every one and anyone have lost a member of their family, if only graveyard could talk .they are devastated the lives of typical of Eritrean and known for their brutality, the regime adventure has stumbled from one military miss -adventure to another over the last two decades. The regime is suffering from cognitive dissonance. topics in the rich offering of articles and opinion pieces is widely addressed , , ideas matter too, shaping both how write about our society and, eventually, what we do. Given the circumstances. For this, credit is due to a determined group of activists only if the energy released by the movement was quickly translated into real, institutional change. But committed to the rule of law and to the democratic future of our country. This is a race against time. They don’t want our children to be demanding democracy as we do and years from now. They believe they must build the foundations for structural change before the This experienced generation of activists is the antidote to the dictatorship system. There’s no hope for this country unless change come soon. As the years turned into decades, Could we all actually make a change and eventually make the difference in the development of our country.

  • haileTG

    Selam brother Mahmud S

    If I make the claim that in today’s Eritrea, there exist a huge animosity between tegadelti and youth. How much or to what extent do you agree with that point? If you don’t accept the validity, please ignore it ንኺድ ጥራይ otherwise what do you attribute the reason to be?

    • Mahmud Saleh

      In one of my replies to someone some time in the past, I said ” WE FAILED YOU.” By “we” I meant Tegadelti; but again, most tegadelti are also equally victims, case in point, Dejen the pilot and all those in dangeons, our leaders included. My problem is this: How could you not separate the ideals of those who died to get the land and people liberated with what transpired after independence and most importantly after 2001; Haile, you have a giant brain comparable to the likes of SAAY, SGJ….and others. How could you not understand my little story to Amde with my kids, if you are a father, think about it and you will know I did the right thing. How could that put me as “against justice?” Just because you think 5/24 is a day of whatever, do I have to agree with that? Come on guys.

      • haileTG

        Haw Mahmud, I would never put you against justice, how could I? Please point me to a single incident that I did? Standing for truth is painful dear Mahmud, please try to reflect on my whole theory as regards “dignity’ of the people. BTW I am a regular visitor of Eritrea and my take is born out of the latest conditions that I witness. Dignified people will dignify your “ideals”, how could we do it from Sinai and sea bed of Lampedusa?

        • Saba

          I am a regular visitor of Eritrea? How can you be with the cyber opposition and shenah enda belka visit eritrea? IziA iKua susas aLata(nay wedi shawul zereba).

          • Ermias

            Aye Saba, aytihaziley daa ab mengokin mengo Hailen atyekum ember, tmali eko bgerhiki himamki entay mkuanu dahdihikiyo eki ab hade melsiki n Haile. Gin ane afey hizey suk kibl eye kisab kulom baelom zifeltuki

          • Saba

            Really? Is that the “you are a PFDJ supporter” card? Anyway it is ok if you help Haile because even though most of the time his behavior is cooler sometimes his reaction is as if he is dealing with Bichir gorzo:)
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWq7-Z0wBMw

      • Tesfabirhan WR

        Dear Mahmud,

        Sorry, but now, I am in serius debate with you. WIth all respect, but, it is a debate between a young generation, the youth and the tegadalay, your age. I did before in Eritrea and I will do it here with you too. Not to disproof it, but to know the youth agony, to tell you that we have been treated as unresponsible though we are. In fact, we respected you more than we should have.

        You know that, when a father is too much autocratic, children always leave the house (I am talking at family level). You know why? because, they can not fight against him by sticks ad stones. This is what we, the YOUNG generation did. Not because we hate our fathers, but because we respect our fathers, but we need also to be MEN, a MAN like them. But, we can not live in the same room. Either has to leave. The father? NO, let him stay there, the young can leave anywhere and see their chance.

        Then, should the father consider that he is brave or strong enough to kick his own child out of the house? If he is not wise, like the Tegadelti (PFDJ tegadelti -the dhri natsinet tegadelti) – I say the dihri natsinet tegadelti because they (ALl freedom fighters were not father before – but they became fathers after independence -a father is a father only he gets a child, and INDEPENDENCE is a child for tagadalay). But then, they kicked their own child, the independence.

        But, now, the child is visiting back to his his own house though the father is old enough, still he is fighting with the rest fame, rae-rae enabele, shackling.

        This is pure logical and my deep understanding between FATHER-CHILD (ADULT) ill-relationship, meaning between the fathers of Independence day and the Independence day by itself.

        Serious debate.

        Hawka
        tes

        • Mahmud Saleh

          Dear tes: To me at least you are about right, please check I replied to you just a minute ago too. Now, you are deploying or your educational tools! Great tes. You read the other one too.

          • Tesfabirhan WR

            Dear Mahmud,

            If you say so, ok. One thing, I AM KNOCKING THE DOOR, my RIGHT TO LIVE, MY JUSTICE, let you accept that, my justice, not to live to admire your works, but my rights of capability to do great things.

            With all due respect

            tes

            * I am capable to do great things because you are my father. I know (either now because you are telling me, and children because they read what you do) what you did. And at the same time, I know that you didn’t do it to read your works only or admire your works only. You did it because you had big dream and you achieved it. And me, I am grateful for this achievement, but I will not be stacked in reading your achievements or live to admire you.

            I will read what you did because it is my base for my future, I will admire because it was your works. but, I don’t want to stop there, I want to make my own history too, A PLUS, much better than yours. if I am not able to that then what you did will be ZERO. I need to work more and more.

            Oh, not to be great warrior, but great thinker, technologies, great agriculturalist, great politician, great engineer, great father etc. I want to do that. If you welcome me, well and good if not I know I can do it because I learned it from you. You know what I learned from you, “By all means, get what you dream for.”

          • Mahmud Saleh

            tes; what a great Independence day gift!! The asterisked part is so powerful. Just for your info, you guys (semere..you…Haile….etc) go for it, but never compromise your country and its heritage. As far as the old generation vs new…you are right, it has been so throughout history and will be so in the future; keep going. By the way I brought the story for a purpose; and I agree how dawit sees it. Read dawit’s reply (I know both of you do not agree in many issues).

    • Saba

      Dear Haile T G,
      Enoho meda enoho feres. Show us what are you going to do now. Tegadelti did their part, to get independence. Now Haile “gigna zereba” it is your turn to bring FREEDOM, please show us what you will do after all the youtube stories you have watched. Please please, chele zereba! please no empty plan. Enough bashing, please go to action.

      • haileTG

        Granted:-)

        • Saba

          That’s all? Iza fekera tish ila tefiA in 1 minute:)

          • haileTG

            How you wished it so. Not that easy 🙂

          • Saba

            AkiSa do? Tirkim! Don’t worry we will have a real one or PFDJ bealu teAnQifu kiwediq iyu. Till then enjoy the TPLF-sponsored show.

          • haileTG

            Hey Saba, Sorry I wasn’t being anti-social earlier, I was a little tied up and when I read it back I thought I should have waited to answer (see how I messed up, even Rodab is celebrating Haile the great Moytu 🙂 .. poor IA now I see how it feels 😉

            Anyway, your kinda immature “pick up arms” reminds me what happened in Israel last year. Mr Tekeste Tesfamariam (ambassador) told Eritrean youth justice seekers (to the horror of onlooker Israeli MPs) to pick arms to sort out their issues with the regime (because he was proud that for doing so in his days). How infantile, ignorant and shameless. This guy fought to liberate his country and was reduced to daring his youth (young enough to be his kids) that passed the horrors of Sinai to pick up a fight. Can you understand (highly unlikely) the shameful betrayal, bestial attitude? He could have said let’s understand each other, teach me I am all ears, lets make things better…but let’s go to war! how disturbed, sadistic and clueless of the value of what he spent his life on!! Any way, he thought he shut them up, Tirkim, no more, all solved, magic bullet…till some months later. Where he turned up to hijack Eritrean gathering. He was kicked out, pushed and run for his safety under police escort, leaving his brief case behind, the wurdeteNa that he is, young people who weren’t born when he fought for his country were ready to punch his eyes out. oops, wasn’t over as he thought it. If the world has rejected his actions, if the region has rejected his actions, if masses of his people have rejected his actions and if youngsters old enough to be his kids have come to kick him slap him and punch his face out, what on earth is going on??? And you are telling me to fight the regime, huh… anyway, enjoy the next poem by those youngsters who despise him and the cause you’re working your backside off, yet recognize the true meaning of our struggle as a collective asset of the Eritrean people and not the current thieves..

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBek6e1mu9E&feature=share

          • Rodab

            Dear Saba [the relentless]
            Ermias was right when he called you persistent a while ago.
            Look what you’ve done to Hailat. He started with paragraphs, gradually shrinking to a single word of surrender. It would be smart of them for Semere and tes to follow suit before it is too late 🙂

      • Tesfabirhan WR

        Dear habtna Saba,

        Before, brother Saay insisted us to list the plans we have, to list down the methods. Good, we gave him the general picture though he wanted the detail.

        Now we have started directly in action, the step ONE.

        Step ONE: Dismantle the PFDJ mindset. Here it is going.

        Hawki
        tes

        * remark: PFDJ mindset does not literally mean PFDJ members, it is an ideology indoctrinated for the last 20 years and is in the mind of individuals (consciously or unconsciously). This mindset is a VIRUS and there were Antiviruses developed so far and it was working well but not good enough to destroy fully. And here, we are well equipped to destroy it. Mind you though, there is recent VIRUS spread by DIA, a new virus called, “Drafting of constitution”. By chance, the ANTIVIRus that we have developed is strong enough to destroy this newly released virus. Just hold-on. Thank you for your careful diagnosis. Your laboratory worked a lot.

        • Saba

          Hi brother Tes, you right the “kulu dihri hager iyu” mindset is sophisticated but the ANTI-VIRUS that you are supporting has malwar such as being TPLF-dependent, “siltan ina delina’, “hager dihri democracy iya” or “zitekormemet hager tiaklena iya” etc. Lol, too much to fix.

          • Tesfabirhan WR

            Dear Saba,

            Demhit sefiroma elki diki? Ajoki, Demhit eko beti nay pfdj flsifina, ntselaika btselai”U eka tisiero zibil eyom adi weriroma zelewu. Ente ti kali’emo, 1998-2000 fhsul strategy PFDJ aye-wetenan. nayti EEBC wusane dma ewa, endie, libonaki yiabi. Ente ab cyber opposition gina, gdi yeblkin we have enough software to dismantle any virus, be it external or external. Ab meriet zelewu gina ksab emri PFDJ eyom zelewu.

            Hawki
            tes

          • Saba

            Dear Tes, kemey gerkha ika nezom cyber opposition afQirkayom moytka. I know your heart must love something after hating this PFDJ mindset but to cyber opposition? Melesa zeyblu! Tuff belo.
            So if PFDJ have Demhit, is it correct for the cyber opposition to have TPLF?
            You are right cyber opposition are powerful in the cyberspace but ab meriet they are like Tesmi:)
            Anyway tesminan hamlinan, we are waiting for PFDJ beaLu teanQifu kiwediq.
            Saba

    • ALI-S

      Selam Haile,

      I have also read the comments by others on your question. On this particular fact of tegadalti & your animosity I completely agree with you.

      I think you agree with me that the animosity does not in anyway refer to making a statement about ghedli. The way I see it and the way many of the youth and the gebar see it: ghedli was finished (accomplished) in May 24, 1991. With the end of ghedli the concept of tegadelti should have been terminated because there is no tegadalai without ghedli.

      Today and in post independence era the word “tegadalai” carries two meanings in the minds of the youth:

      (1) tegadalai as fitewrari – is just a tittle, an empty one i.e. tegadalay without ghedli and fitewrari without werar. Egyptians still use the word “Basha” to refer to any person who smells of office workers – enough to become a basha is you wear clean clothes and have glasses. Of course both tegadalai and fitewrari carry with them acknowledgement for past heroism and hence respect.

      (2) tegadalai as in leyba – from the point of view of most tegadelti neber the term was perpetuated as a way of claiming entitlement to the loots after independence. Within this broad category of former tegadelti another subcategory emerged that took real advantage and abused the word as is the case in PFDJ’s Eritrea today.

      An indication of the boundaries of this opportunistic and abusive subcategory can be drawn from an example. Sometime in the mid-nineties the government gave all “tegadelti” the right to import duty free vehicles for personal use. The national bank made available the needed hard currency for so many of them. An instant class of the new-rich was created overnight.

      The irony was that most “tegadelti” who were still stuck in the mountains as the core of EDF had no use for these vehicles and the gangs in the government knew this very well. This is just one example but I am sure you know a lot more.

      Ever non-tegadalay that I have ever met in Eritrea was disgusted at the mention of the word and gradually as the new generation of youth became more dominant the term tegadalai came to mean a prick essentially. I also agree that if someone is claiming entitlement to the perks associated with the word 40 years after the end of ghedli I think he she is a prick.

      My point is that we should be careful so that these parasites who would make sure to use these terms to abuse todays nation, do not end up damaging people’s appreciation for what so many real tegadelti paid dearly to accomplish. We should not sell our history and the glory of those who died to appease the living parasites.

      • Mahmud Saleh

        salam Ali-S and Haile TG, and whoever cares to read this:
        I add this: except very few who are the talk of town by being treated as previledged class to own government villas and assume positions they could use for the abuse of their fellow country men and women (tegadalay and gabar), without forgetting that there are also many of those “previleged” who are doing their job ethically, the majority are stuck with the intial salary scale, no promotion, no living standard adjustment. And they are the ones pushing for change, and I believe if there is any change to come, you can not rule out their years long pressing for a just system. The majority of them have not gained from PFDJ rule. It’s a fact.

        • ALI-S

          Selam Mahmoud,

          Thanks for the insight. I have never been tegadalai and I am not in a position to say how tegadalai feels. I also know that I cannot comment on such a sensitive issue without giving the impression of being ungrateful to what they had to go through for our sake. I will assume you understand the dilemma and I will go ahead.

          What you said about tegadelti going through the same unfairness as the gebar has some truth but I think it is a gross understatement or misrepresentation (not implying intention on your part).

          Nearly all tegadelti with the exception of the disabled and a very limited number in the army have so far been active collaborators in abusing the title for personal gain and favours. It would be understandable if some kind of veterans affairs like the MiTyas offices would take care of their lost years and they would accept to compete with the rest of the population on positions and qualifications.

          You may know better about the type of difficulties that the MiTyas office was having with so many who refuse to be demobilized and would would see it as conspiracy to exclude them from the looting of public resources. These tegadelti have turned every office in the government into private plantation and they have been a deadly parasite on every aspect of government. There are whole ministries such as foreign affairs where their greed brought every function to zero.

          Tegadalai never gets hired he/she is assigned and hence is not subject to tests of qualification, he/she cannot be fired but reassigned to another position and on the average (ever with the lack of raises and promotions you mentioned) gets a much larger salary. For more than a decade now nearly all young Eritreans and gebar have never seen a salary by the pennies that the national service receives. I don’t think any tegadalai lost a days wages and all have been receiving full salaries as far as I know. Don’t you think what you said was understatement?

          You agree with me that we need pride in our history to serve as an important pillar for the future. That proud history has so far been inaccesible because it is blocked by our perception of so many tegadelti trying to abuse very opportunity that their association with ghedli might allow.

          Even in all the tegadalai protests and protests that we glorify tegadelti were nothing but selfish and saw to solve their own problems not other peoples. I do understand how disgusted people must be. The whole movement of trashing ghedli and all its contents such as those of YG and followers is conceived on this simple fact and an attempt to block these parasites from further abuse by destroying the historical value of ghedli all together.

          The problem in the opposition is exactly the same: parasites from the ghedli leftovers. But instead of trashing such a glorious history my idea is to trash those who might abuse the history for personal glory. I lived in Eritrea for a few years and I never met a tegadalai who would not do his/her best to take advantage of the title.

          From what I read in your posts I think you are an ex-tegadalai and I would love to hear your opinion of what you would suggest of course if you agree with me that the problem is a lot bigger and the consequences more serious than your last statement.

          I think this is one area where opposition activism should focus. I have read the interesting conversations you were having with SAAY, Haile and many others about which part of the PFDJ should go. I think similar to Iraq’s DeBaathification what we need in Eritrea DeGhedlification.

          • haileTG

            Ali-S

            You’ve completely unearthed the kernel of my arguments and dilemmas. On the one hand, I have clocked in high proportion of comment-hour per subject topic defending the significance and centrality of the ghedli history to the Eritrean social fabric and defining characteristics. Such arguments saw me stressing those issues whenever the topic is raised. On the other hand there is the issue of the tegadelti and civilian divide that is actually forming the bulk of the ill feelings and rendering many young people to be gripped with unyielding sense of anger towards the regime. Then people go to recount their personal experiences of humiliation by the way tegadelti treated and acted out against the population. The topic started with PTSD inquiry to Mahmud recently. But I sense that Mahmud (understandably) is too emotionally and psychologically attached to the history he spent being part of ghedli that it would probably be beyond intuition to reverse roles and try to see the condition of the other side in the equation. This issue is at the heart of what has rendered most young Eritreans to have a perturbed sense of relationship to their country. I always try to fight on both sides: against the belittling of the achievements of ghedli and against the excesses of (many not all) tegadelti in demoralizing our young and turning many to hostile to the nation itself. I hope an open and frank debate takes place on this matter because a lot is stuffed under the mat and needs to be dealt with.Empty gratification has few buyers nowadays.

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Haile TG: I read your threads and Ali-S reply; I have also talked with a friend who has come from the country 5 years ago (tegadalay) about this and have concluded that there is a big gap between what I think the role of ex-tegadelti could be and the reality on the ground, how they are evaluated/judged by their country people, especially the youth. I left the country when tegadalai was serving without pay, I have that image in my mind and whatever I gather from here. I did not take my first salary nor the lump sum money. Nothing. That was mid 90s. I left my family almost 40 years ago to ghedli, I grew up in ghedli, so ghedli and tegadalai is the only family I have. The first time I saw PIA was probably in his late 20s, and grew up under his leadership. So, I always remind myself that I could be way biased, particularly around independence day (our favorite PTSD). While here in diaspora the few tegadelti of us tend to keep our close ties, so the parallel universe continues, with no meaningful conversation between “gebar” and tegadelai; that by itself constrains the exchange of information and experiences. I feel more comfortable talking to and staying with my ghedli buddies than with my relatives, for obvious reasons. Therefore, I want you to know, those young ones, that I will try to be humble with your inputs and learn more openly about how our young folks perceive and experience things. I feel I am misunderstood when people portray me as if I am defending the system. But I am in the open criticizing it using my real name, they know me. I wrote about the need of change following the tragedy at Lampedusa, and how PFDJ betrayed us and our young people, I have the articles with my name on them, so no need to to do unneeded defense here.
            I am also on record for saying “we failed you” to our young people. Haile’s reply to Ali-s is appropriate and I will call on Ali to do a paper on this issue. Thank you.

          • Tesfabirhan WR

            Dear Mahmud Saleh,

            Your wisdom has shined here and thank you for coming to understand how we the young are segregated by our own fathers. I wrote to you before that I read that of (no need to reply) resemblance. For me, lived, studied, worked, lectured and served under the TEGADALAY mindset. I was always and i will always give great respect and I was and i am and I will always reject any father that dictate me. You know why? because, I want also to be a father, a history maker not a history reader. Mind me though, when I say, “I”it is representing the Youths.

            Don’t take it personal attack, or personal labelling, it is what the tegadalay mindset that we are fighting for, the tegadalay mindset, that appeared after 24/5/1991., Nihna-Nisikhum, Yikealo-warsay. I hate this racism. It is pure racism, very pure. Tegadelti fought to abolish any kind of racism, but they became racists themselves. I am telling you because I worked with them till 2012. The title of my articles, “The rule of the jungle and a quest to PFDJ mindset” is based on my own experience. I did’n’t attack personalities and I will not, but based on the experiences that I have, I can observe between lines if such mindset exists or not. And this is what I did.

            It is very good that your old good-hearted is still alive, keep going with that. But, understand also your own mindset. We are not revolting for the sake of revolt, but you made us to revolt against your own identity, identity of pride. the bible says, pride comes before failure. This is what it happened, creating the “Yikealo-Warsay”relationship.

            With all great respect.
            hawka
            tes

          • Amanuel

            Hi Tes
            I think racism is the wrong word, we can call it discrimination. Moving forward I sympathises with Mahmud that the tegadalay he knew, who put every thing he has, including his life on the table so the future generation can live better; seems as he has changed his mind and showing unexpected behaviour. The human brian is a complex one and its environment has a major impact. How do you explain two tegadelti who didn’t want to have more bit of food from each other 25 years ago, now point AK 47 at each other because of Villa which used to be occupied by their martyred comrade’s family. How do you explain this? This crime may be committed by the minority, however it is committed by the second tier of the leadership who should know better.

            From my experience the Gebar & Tegaday issue has been there long before May 24 1991. Inherently, tagadaly looked the gebar down (gebar denbar). Among tegadelti it was perceived that a 6 grade degaday knows more than a gebar with degree. For example IA said “our merah ganta is better from some one with MBA when it comes to management” I think culturally this discrimination was there, just it was hidden as there was minimal contact with the whole pollution of the country. I remember Amanuel Sahle wrote an article about this issue , I think it was, early 1992 (tegadalyn hzbn main zeitn koynu Alo). He was ridiculed from all directions but he was right, it was like Nlebam Amtelu kind of thing.
            Have a nice day

          • Tesfabirhan WR

            Dear Amanuel,

            Let’s see the definition of the two words and deduce which one corresponds well.

            1. Racism:
            a. Racism is actions, practices or beliefs, or social or political systems that consider different races to be ranked as inherently superior
            or inferior to each other, based on presumed shared inheritable traits,
            abilities, or qualities. It may also hold that members of different
            races should be treated differently. (Source: http://www.ask.com/wiki/Racism).

            b. Racism and racial discrimination are often used to describe
            discrimination on an ethnic or cultural basis, independent of whether
            these differences are described as racial. (Source: http://www.ask.com/wiki/Racism)

            c.

            c.1 . a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one’s own race is superior and has the right to rule others.

            c. 2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.

            c. 3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

            (Source: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/racism)

            2. Discrimination

            a. an act or instance of discriminating, or of making a distinction.

            b. treatment or consideration of, or making a distinction in favor of or against, a person or thing based on the group, class, or category to which that person or thing belongs rather than on individual merit: racial and religious intolerance and discrimination.

            c. the power of making fine distinctions; discriminating judgment: She chose the colors with great discrimination.

            d. Archaic. something that serves to differentiate.

            (source: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/discrimination?s=t)

            b.

            discrimination – Legal Definition

            The act of denying right of benefits, justice, equitable treatment, or access to facilities available to
            all others, to an individual or group of people because of their race, age, gender, handicap or other defining characteristic. See also reverse discrimination.

            (Source: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/racism).

            based on these definitions, I would better say “Racism” is more appropriate. Not ethnic or religious or color type, but, the Gedli-culture racism. The Yikealo-Warsay racism, one as superior and the other as inferior, incapable of doing something, untrustee (the one as more responsible and second as irresponsible kind of relationship.

            this is according to my understanding and hos I used the word.

            hawka
            tes

          • Amanuel

            Hi Tes
            I am not here just to win arguments. I am rusher to exchange ideas. From the definition you listed 2b (discrimination) is the nearest to what was/is happening.

          • Amanuel

            Please read it as rather instead of rusher.

          • Tesfabirhan WR

            Dear Amanuel,

            I think what I tried is also not to win an argument. I just listed possible definitions. Even I didn’t say to argue you, rather I referred to confirm what I really have to say. I am just sharing. I am not rushing, I responded to you after 6 hours. Your sentences are cool and there is no difference between our understanding, just we differed on the word saying. In fact, discrimination and racism can sometime used mutually.

            What I tried is to make strong what we two are saying. Don’t take it as argument.

            hawka
            tes

          • Amanuel

            Hi Tes
            With hindsight my first sentences is a bit unfair but rest assured it is not intentional and i am sorry if you are offended. I was trying to point out that the habitual definition would have been enough. In the end I am glad there is no difference in our understanding and that is, I think, what matters.
            Best wishes
            Amanuel

          • Tesfabirhan WR

            Dear Amanuel,

            Feel comfort, I never felt that and I will never. I know words matter. In deed, why we are here is to share, debate and argue for better Eritrea. I have never felt here as offended. I try my best to search some academically and politically meaningful ideas. And your words are cool. No need to say sorry, rather, I have to say it. I am learning still, but I try to contemplate on words, if not each word, but the main theme of the sentence or word.

            Cheers!

            hawka

            tes

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Ali-s;
            Thank you, please read my reply to HaileTG (below); I call upon you to do a paper on this issue
            1/ what do you think the right way should have been in merging the civil and tegadalay societies
            2/ its economic, political and social repercussions
            3/ Its potential for bringing change or otherwise…etc
            I have been reading your papers, and considering the fact that you were active with ghedli, plus your service in the government plus your educational background qualifies you for that.

          • dawit

            Dear Mahmud,

            Although this is addressed to Ali. S, let me inject myself on this Gebar and Tegadali delema in Eritrea. To start with there was no need for the dichotomy of Gebar and Tegadali, because Eritrean people with exception of few who knowingly or unknowingly participated with the Ethiopian occupation practically all Eritreans whether they carry guns or not participated on the resistance to occupation. Those who carried the arms would not have achieved their goal without the resistance and help of the other half of the resistance army ‘Gebar’. The gebars stood in close proximity of the enemy daily facing, impressments, tortures and death for no other reason but because of ‘Eritreaness’. In real sense there was no ‘Gebar’ in Eritrea, they were all tegadelti, therefore the term ‘gebar’ is misnomer to those who were facing the enemy in close proximity. Now, take my family as an example, my brother joined the ghedli while I stayed behind taking care of my aged parents and younger siblings. Had I joined the ghedli, the family would have disintegrated, and would not have seen the independent Eritrea for which my brother gave the ultimate price. I am still have shouldered the responsibility of helping by nephews and nieces that my brother and his wife left behind. In short, the term ‘gebar’ is an insult for those who did not carry guns, but still participated on the liberation struggle of their country. Dividing the country into Gebar and Tegadali was wrong. If EPLF had that outlook, it could have easily integrated the two groups, and could have laid a much stronger foundation for the Independent Eritrea, and we may not have talked about gebar/tegadali divisions, in the society. It is sad to see so many gebar professionals stepped aside and position given to tegadelti, even when they did not have the qualifications. I am not sure may be the creation of PFDJ was designed to integrate the two groups, but I don’t think it is working as designed. That is my 2 cents observation.Finally Mahmud what does ‘Awet Nhafash’ mean to ‘Tegadali’. Is gebar part of the ‘Hafash’
            Thank you

          • Mahmud Saleh

            salam dawit: I agree; and I think this is where the crux of the problem is. I am looking for some one to shred it to pieces scientifically and show us the impact of the mismanagement of these two cultures. I called upon Ali-s, will see what he says or anyone jumps on to the task. I really believe unless we separate and try to deal with this ghedli, tegadalaI,EPLF/ pfdj, goverment…we won’t have common understanding , and will continue to waste time on issues we should consider understood and dealt with.

  • Rodab

    MeAlkum Awatistas,

    One of the ‘privileges’ unaccountable dictators enjoy is they can say ANYTHING they choose and anytime they like without having to explain any part of it. In Eritrean politics, yesterday’s announcement about the constitution, although mentioned in passing, was a major one. A major announcement that requires extensive interviews and follow ups to clarify what is being proposed. So far, NIL*!! Am I jumping the gun, provided it’s only been 24 hours? No. ተጽግበኒ ቅጫ ኣብ መቕሎ ከላ እፈልጣ
    Besides, the fact that no mention, no hint, no emphasis was given the entire year makes me doubt the seriousness of the new talk in town. The positive thing in all this being the constitution is now in the spotlight.

    In any case, if drafting anew is what’s in store as it appears, it would be a very bad idea for this reason [among others]: the existing document with whatever shortfalls it may have, was drafted with a wide participation of citizens when we were a much more united country, speaking comparatively. With the divisions among the public inside and abroad that exist today, there is no way a giant national issue like drafting a constitution can be embarked upon and accomplish anything significant. Not realistic, not logical. The best way out of this debacle is to revive and implement the existing one ብዘይ ውዓል ሕደር።

    * Someone in Twitter asked government Spokesperson if new commission will be established and the short answer was “I am sure the practical details and modalities will be spelt out soon.”

    • Warsay Gedim

      Rodab,
      You have always struck me as one of those wishy-washy people. I bet you wish for summer when it is winter and for winter when it is summer. You can’t make up ur mind. You are worse than a xxxxxx! (okay that was a little xxxxxx of me…I apologize)
      Hey, this is a long-term undertaking. If by division you are referring to the handful of diaspora “Jeganu of Computers” such as yourself, I am not sure that your input is welcome anyway.

    • Pappillon

      Dear Rodab,

      The tyrant is trying to give his mafia establishment a semblance of a government where the former as a reputation could hardly be whitewashed by as you said it a passing remark. For all practical purposes, there is nothing into it but the fact that he is vindictive and vengeful, I say, he is probably trying to get to Dr. Bereket and others whose life time achievement among others revolves around the drafting the otherwise dust-repleted Constitution. Mind you, he is not concerned about his Diaspora stooges at all for he is absolutely convinced that they are a bunch of pathetic good-for-nothings. If anything however, the drafting including the implementation will take an average of ten years where by that time, he will be in his 80s and he will have been in power for sixty years. And according to him, that is his ultimate trophy.

      Haft’kha.

    • dawit

      Dear Rodab’
      Egypt went through three Constitution in three years. Morsi’s 2012 replacing Mubarak’s 1971 Constitution and they have a brand new from Sisy 2014 hot from the press. Mind you we live in 21 Century with word processing cut and pest technology, It is not 1776 where people wrote Constitution by dipping feathers tip in ink bottle. We can even ratify it with electronic votes. The only problem I foresee is electricity supply in Eritrea. Hopefully our friend from Sudan can help, they were there observing our independence celebration when PIA announced the project.. As to your suggestion of using the old one, I am sure by now all the writing is faded with all the dust and other weather element acting on it while shelved. It is better to have a new one, that reflect our diverse experience and divisions in the last 23 years.
      Regards,
      HIGDEF MENDEF

      • Tesfabirhan WR

        Dear Dawit,

        Even though Egyptians gone through three constitutional changes, they all approved each one and tried to implement it. Once they started to implement, they found it unfit with the changing political landscape.

        But, Eritrean case is quite different. It has been approved but not tested. It is kept in the shelf (I am not saying it was good or had shortcomings), just it was supposed to be applied right after its ratification. They failed do so. And now, DIA is drafting a new constitution for the the government that will be established after his “DEATH'” He wanted to rule Eritrea even after his death. This is pure message of 24/5.

        PFDJ will come-up with many excuses for the shelved document. We don’t want either now. We are fighting for the people to take power and be responsible for his own RULE OF LAW. PFDJ is a dead fish and who cares about the rotten fish now.

        hawka
        tes

      • Rodab

        Hi dawita,

        For every country that discarded its constitution and replaced it with a new one, I can bring dozens who didn’t do that. Besides, the Egyptians tried each one of them before they replaced them thru referendum. If we are going to have to vote for the existing vs a new one, I am all for it. Let’s have a referendum. We know how to do referendum, don’t we?

        Hey Warsay Gedim,

        If you don’t know a serious division exists in Erispora, then I have nothing new to tell you except to recommend that you activate your head. On a second thought, let me give you one big example of division that is the direct making of the regime. You remember the illegal dismissal of the legal Patriarch of the EOC? Well guess what, the Church in diaspora is now divided into two groups: Those that follow the legitimate Patriarch and those who follow the current Patriarch.
        As to my inconsistency, come back with more specific points and will try to clear it for ya.

  • Silverlining

    There is a silverlining in all of this for Tigray. Tigrayans always benefit from Eritreans’ experience. The future Republic of Tigray, which is certain to break away from Ethiopia at some point in the future, can learn a lot from Eritrea’s Constitution drafting. Eritrea’s document will be beneficial to Tigray because Tigray is more like Eritrea than the rest of Ethiopia. SO if you are Tigray, you should be excited about this announcement. Someday you will be happy about this.

  • Saba

    Dear Awatistas: Due to the one line constitution thing I see some happiness in the PFDJ camp while extreme anger in the cyber opposition camp and some are resorting to name calling of the PFDJ supporters like parasites(well who is then symbiotic parasite?). Both camps show immaturity in their debate. Instead i would like to see the debate about the legality of 2nd Constitution ratification, or if re-ratified how can we use it against PFDJ. Or lets not talk about it at all instead of resorting to insults like “one brain cell” etc.

    Dear Haile TG: your title is reinstated but in a watch mode. I do not why you keep selectively love some PFDJites. Is that nostalgia?This guy fihira is a proud PFDJer. Medalewi ikua koley ayfetun.

    Dear “Semiruley” Andom: I am not mistaking you, i can recognize you by your “gotena hidmo” even though it is not like the one during “Halengay gobez nay meshalu” time “mis fare ambesaka”:) So where you part of the EPLF/PFDJ “kulu dihri hager iyu” team? Obviously before you switch to “kulu mis TPLFna iyu, i heart them bi MuluE libey, siga aboy iLe” 😉
    Happy Sunday!
    Saba

    • Doing right by the people

      Dearest Saba.,
      The Eritrean people are supportive of a new constitution. The only people unhappy about this announcement seem to be the various opposition groups (all 1,500 of them) and Woyane. That tells you our beloved President is doing the right thing.

  • Big Apple – Turtle Bay

    From the horse’s mouth. PIA said it in so many words at the Big Apple (New York) when he came to visit Turtle Bay (United Nations). Check out y’all. Only 7 minutes.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfNnnwEZ1rI&feature=youtu.be

  • Mahmud Saleh

    salam Amde and dine/ tes…ንዕኦም ዝመስሉን T.Kifle እውን ጠዓሞት ትኾነልካ
    ( The dialogue is primarily with brother Amde)
    Be reasonable Amde, you know the fact that I abhor the culture of guns; when I brought the boys scouts example, I was reminding you of the fact that nations celebrate their independence day, surely, with some enactment of their patriotic history. I saw that in Addis Ababa, where kids enacted different scenes of Adwa and what followed, with their great grand fathers; Kenyans do that; the Zulu do that, staging performances dramatizing how their forefathers fought the white man with their traditional weapons; alomst every country does that….etc. Here, where I live, kids perform different episodes of the Revolutionary War, and compete to act like George Washington. You would not show objections to these examples, but you are quick to take those Eritrean kids out of context. You would not want to comment on the kids who were performing other glamorous acts in that same stage, no you would not, you are fixated on anything that could depict my country appear as an alien, uncivilized… you and the T.Kifles seem to be bogged down in solving this mystery you dub “Eritrean mindset”, problem is , you can not solve it using a colonial mindset; to understand it, you should take off that colonial hat, be humble and recognize that nations do celebrate their holidays enacting anything relevant to their history; remember that there are educators and psychologists in Eritrea not only WARSA/YIKAALO mindset. Amde, when I need information where the EPLF/TPLF thing comes in to play, I run to you, but if it comes to facts when Ethiopia /Eritrea come in to play, I watch you. I will keep reading your posts though, and they don’t necessarily cause me discomfort.

    Since I am still succumbed under the wrath of this bug we call independence day, I want to share with you how I spent it. Well, I took my kids and went to one of the biggest parks in my hometown. I did not know that we were supposed to celebrate Independence day in two groups, but when I arrived there, I found out that there were two groups. I went to the small group, it was very small, you guess who it represents. There were T-shirts that had slogans such as ” Implement the constitution”, ” Justice now” and similar others. I bought three, and spent sometime there; but it was depressing for my kids. It was all about death and gloomy tales. I was courageous enough to say “No, today is independence day, and my kids need to be where they can be kids and feel spirited, not depressed. I gave my allegiance once to the great EPLF, and that’s it. There is no more allegiance to any other organization be it PFDJ or anti-PFDJ. And quietly, I excused myself and went to the other group which was in the hundreds, where kids-centered programs were abundant, no more rallying cries and politicking except the picture of Issayas. I said to myself, ” I can take this.” At the entrance, though, there was a glitch. The person manning the entrance told me ” bejeka eta malia awxaaya/ please take off the T-shirt.” Unaware, I was wearing one of the T-shirts I had bought in the anti-PFDJ group. I told the young man ” Aren’t we living in America! I have the right…” but the young man pointed towards armed and uniformed Event Police and respectfully told me I had the choice between taking it off and joining the crowd or leaving. I obeyed; I took off the T-shirt and joined the crowd. My kids had good time. Here is a gift for you Amde: and there was an enactment of ghedli there too. Well, the Eritrean mid set is still to occupy your mind, keep you busy at least for the next 20 years.

    • Semere Andom

      Dear Tegadalai wedii Saleh: sorry for the intrussions
      Notwithstanding Amde’s hyperbole and dramatization of your vision for the Eritreans children, it is shocking for you to think the enactment using the kids was appropriate and equally shocking is your celebrate the day of bondage. May 24 is the day the monster PFDJ was crowned swaddled in the independence costume. I have not read lucid reasons from those who support and utter empty happy Independence Day on May 24 yet. As Tegadalai of EPLF, who pays homage to this organization that faked its name to PFDJ just like the Eritreans who change their names when claiming refugee status in the democratic countries after “Independence” can you break the record of what we heard before and give us your reasons for celebrating this day when your former colleagues are tortured in Asmara many of them for as long as 23 years and yet some since the armed struggle. I think those who celebrate this day need t to do it in hiding instead of pounding their chest in pride, or we should dedicated an area like we do for the smokers these days.

      If May 24,1991 brought PFDJ, that imprisons Dejen, Petros, Haile, Pharon, Berhane and all the veterans, not only incarcerates them, but tortures and murders them in the belly of Asmara, just like the Dergi did you guys need to tell us a more believable story to celebrate May 24 as an independence day. Do not confuse your intentions for spending your youth “kelashinka ende kebebka” and what you have inadvertently accomplished: servitude and bondage. Also the delineation of EPLF to whom you pay your allegiance and PFDJ whom you abhor is just mind boggling and you do that without a smidgeon of grain of salt, you do that with a straight face.

      You probably ready my comment about my fantasy on every May 24 for the last 12 years: a former Tegadalai remembers the ideals of EPLF seedlings and frees all political prisoners as like the Tegadalti did long time ago in Sembel. Here is another fantasy of mine: Eritrea becomes a democratic nation with a bloodless revolution with a constructional government and peace reigns in Eritrea and our parliament unanimously votes for our independence day to become the day Eritrea was democratized and not, May 24, when PFDJ that bled us for 25 years took power. Yep I am a hopeless dreamers, but just play along would you support that? Be honest on this Independence Day weekend!

      Sem

      • haileTG

        Dear Sem

        The terms tegadalay, regime, PFDJ, IA and his slaves are not interchangeable. For example, saay sees distinction between PFDJ and IA and I see distinction between tegadelti and the other wretched minions.

        Now to the lucid reason of happy independence. When the existing skunis system is removed, Eritreans will inherit Eritrea that is the result of their combined ghedli. When it comes to tegadalay, the only thing that unite them is their abandoning of their cause in 1991 for one reason or another. Other than that some :

        – ሩዖም ጠቕሊሎም፡ ነታ ዝተዋደቁላ ሃገር ንበላዒ ኣረኪቦማ ከይዶም እዮም
        – ኣብዚ የለዉ ኣብቲ፡ ኣብ ብሕታዊ ናብርኦም ኣድሂቦም፡ ዝኸዱ እዮም
        – ገላዩ ናይዚ ኣጽናቲ ስርዓት ተዓሲቦም ኣብ ውሽጢ ሃገር ቀተልትን ሓረድትን ሸየጥትን ውጹዕ ህዝብና። ኣብ ግዳም ድማ ኣዳኸርቲ፡ ኩትሻ፡ ዋጣን ሳዕሳዕትን፡ ናይዚ ኣብ ልዕሊ ኤርትራን ኤርትራውያንን ወሪዱ ዘሎ ታሪኻዊ ናይ ምጽናት ሓደጋ ኣተግበርቲ እዩም
        – ኣብ ጎኒ ውጹዕ ህዝቦም ኮይኖም፡ ብውሽጢ ናይ ዓቕሞም፡ ብደገ እውን ከምኡ፡ ንፍትሓዊ ቃልሲ ህዝቢ ኤርትራ፡ ዝረባረቡ ዘለዉ እዮም

        ብሓቂ ኩሎም፡ ካብ ትጽቢት ህዝብን ሃገርን ዘልሓጥ ኢሎም፡ ንህዝቢ ኣብ ሰልሚ ጥፍኣት ኣሳጢሖም ፋሕ ፋሕ ከምዝበሉ ዝኽሕዶ የሎን። እቲ ተጋዳላይ ዝበሃል፡ ብታሪኽ እምበር ብኽውን የሎን። ብውልቂ ድማ ንሕሉፍ ታሪኾም ዝበቅዕ ሞሳ ዝግበኦም ከምዘለዉ ክንክሕድ የብልናን። እቲ ቃልሲ ህዝቢ ንምዕዋት ዝተጻወትዎ ተራ ነጻነት ሃገርና ንምርካብ ወሳኒ ተራ ነይርዎ እዩ። ነዚ ድሕሪ 91 ዝተኣወጀ ባርባራዊ ግፍዒ ኣብ ልዕሊ ህዝብና እውን ንክትግበርን፡ ኣብዚ ናይ ሕጂ ደረጃ ዘሎ ጃምላዊ ህልቂት ንኽበጽሕ፡ ብታሪኽ ዝሕተትሉ ተራ ዝተጻወቱ ሓያሎ ከምዘለዉ ዘይምርሳዕ። እቲ ናጽነት ግን፡ ንህና ናይቶም ንጹሃን እምበር፡ ናይቶም ብገበን ክዝከሩ ንወለዶታት ክነብሩ ምኽዋኖም ዘየጠራጥር፡ ጠላማት ከምዘይኮነ ሓሲብና፡ ከነብዕሎ ይግባእ።

        Regards

        • Mahmud Saleh

          HaileTG; NO COMMENT.
          PS.ሃይላት ዘ ግሬት፡ ናትካ ጥባይን ናይቲ ክተውድቖ ትቃለስ ዘለኻ “ሰብኣይ” ሓደ እዩ። ቅሩብ ዝሕል በል፣ ኣዋሪድካዮም ነዞም መሽክኖት ገድሊ። እንታይ ገበሩ ኣብ እዋን ዓራርቦ ዕድመኦም ክንድ’ዚ? ሓደ ግዜ ኣተሓሲበካ ነይረ፡ ንዕኦምን ንደቆምን ደቂ ደቆምን ድኻሞምን recognize እንተዘይጌርካ ኣስመራ ኣይትእቱን ኢኻ። ኣነ ንነብሰይ ኣይኮንኩን ዝዛረብ ዘለኹ። ዝቕመጠሉ ሃገር፡ ደቀይ ዝተወልዱሉ ዓዲ ኣሎኒ። ንስኻ እውን ከምኡ ትኸውን። ስለ’ዚ፡ እቲ ጉዳይ ናይ ውልቂ ኣይኮነን። “ናጽነት ኤርትራ ከመይ ኢልካ ኣብዒልካያ?” ተባሂለ ከመይ ኢለ እሕተት? እምበር’ዶ ዶቡ ኣይሓለፈን? እታ ንAmde ዝጸሓፍክዋ ከ ከመይ ኢላ ፍትሓውን ዘይፍትሓውን ተብለኒ። ሓሳብካ ክትገልጽ ዘይፍቅድ ስርዓት ክንውግድ ኢና ንደሊ ዝበሃል እንተኾይኑ ከመይ ኢሎም ሓሳብ ሰባት ክዕፍኑ ዝቀዳደሙ?

          • haileTG

            brother Mahmud NO EASY RIDE I AM AFRAID እታ መልሲ ንሰመረ’ያ ግን ክቡር ሓው ሐሕማምና ስለ ዘሕምመና’ኮ እዩ። ተጋደልቲ ክሕተቱ ዝሓምም ኣሎ፡ ነቲ ኣደዳ መቕዘፍቲ ዝዳረግዎ ምስኪናይ ህዝቢ ጉዳዩ ክርሳዕ ከሎ ዝሓምም ኣሎ። ብወገነይ፡ ህዝቢ ናይ መወዳእታ ተዓዋታይ ስለዝኾነ፡ መን ደቁ ሒዙ ዓዲ ቀይሩ፡ መን ድማ ገፊሕሉ ኣስተርሕዩ፡ ክድቅስ እዩ ምስ ግዜ ክንርእዮ ኢና። ሕጂ እውን ልዕልና ህዝቢ እንተ ዘይተኸቢሩ፡ ብቤላበሎው ዝደንን ህዝብን ወለዶን ከምዘየሎ ድሮ ዓለም ትምስክሮ’ላ። ፈትዩ ዝደነነ ህዝቢ መሰሉ ይሓትት ኣሎ። ካብ ዓመጽቲ ክምንዝዕ ድማ ትብዓትን ዓቕምን የዋህልል ኣሎ። ብመሰል እምበር ብጉምብሕብሕ እትእቶ ሃገር ከምዘየላ፡ ላዕለዋይ ኢድ ድማ ናይ ህዝቢ ምኽዋኑ ግን ክረጋገጽ እዩ። ኣነ ዝብል፡ ክብረት ክወሃበካ እዩ ዘምሕር፡ ክትምንዝዖ ግን ሕስራኑ ይገድድ።

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Haile TG: “ሕጂ እውን ልዕልና ህዝቢ እንተ ዘይተኸቢሩ፡ ብቤላበሎው ዝደንን ህዝብን ወለዶን ከምዘየሎ ድሮ ዓለም ትምስክሮ’ላ። ፈትዩ ዝደነነ ህዝቢ መሰሉ ይሓትት ኣሎ። ካብ ዓመጽቲ ክምንዝዕ ድማ ትብዓትን ዓቕምን የዋህልል ኣሎ። ብመሰል እምበር ብጉምብሕብሕ እትእቶ ሃገር ከምዘየላ፡ ላዕለዋይ ኢድ ድማ ናይ ህዝቢ ምኽዋኑ ግን ክረጋገጽ እዩ። ኣነ ዝብል፡ ክብረት ክወሃበካ እዩ ዘምሕር፡ ክትምንዝዖ ግን ሕስራኑ ይገድድ። ”

            Let me be blunt : you can not lecture me on our situation; you can not bend my messages. I challenged you in the past; if you are that rebelious call me from Adal, Embasoyra or Gobotat Sahel. The time when opportunists can push psychologically frail souls to fire has passed.

            Here is my comment, the one you responded to: ” PS.ሃይላት ዘ ግሬት፡ ናትካ ጥባይን ናይቲ ክተውድቖ ትቃለስ ዘለኻ “ሰብኣይ” ሓደ እዩ። ቅሩብ ዝሕል በል፣ ኣዋሪድካዮም ነዞም መሽክኖት ገድሊ። እንታይ ገበሩ ኣብ እዋን ዓራርቦ ዕድመኦም ክንድ’ዚ? ሓደ ግዜ ኣተሓሲበካ ነይረ፡ ንዕኦምን ንደቆምን ደቂ ደቆምን ድኻሞምን recognize እንተዘይጌርካ ኣስመራ ኣይትእቱን ኢኻ። ኣነ ንነብሰይ ኣይኮንኩን ዝዛረብ ዘለኹ። ዝቕመጠሉ ሃገር፡ ደቀይ ዝተወልዱሉ ዓዲ ኣሎኒ። ንስኻ እውን ከምኡ ትኸውን። ስለ’ዚ፡ እቲ ጉዳይ ናይ ውልቂ ኣይኮነን። “ናጽነት ኤርትራ ከመይ ኢልካ ኣብዒልካያ?” ተባሂለ ከመይ ኢለ እሕተት? እምበር’ዶ ዶቡ ኣይሓለፈን? እታ ንAmde ዝጸሓፍክዋ ከ ከመይ ኢላ ፍትሓውን ዘይፍትሓውን ተብለኒ። ሓሳብካ ክትገልጽ ዘይፍቅድ ስርዓት ክንውግድ ኢና ንደሊ ዝበሃል እንተኾይኑ ከመይ ኢሎም ሓሳብ ሰባት ክዕፍኑ ዝቀዳደሙ?”

          • Semere Andom

            Wedi Saleh:
            If you do not see a problem children carrying the gun that you carried and if you tell me we have brought you independence yes people will lecture you on our situation as it does not seem to have sunk. I mean how unhinged and arrogant can it be to compare Haile to DIA, the first who is fighting by his words and his writing, the later killing our people torturing people, former prisoners like Dejen are saying that Eritreans were better off under Dreg.

            And really you want people to go to Tabatat Sahel and talk to you from there

          • Mahmud Saleh

            SALAME SEMERE: i WISH YOU DID IT IN A SATIRE. bUT HERE IS WHAT I AM TRYING TO MAKE:

            1/ I hate guns and the news of guns, but when I see people agitating (one time I brought an example of an attack by Red Sea Afar and he was furious attacking me) and other similar including you semere wed Andom;

            2/ The kids in tegadelti uniform, the forum interpreted it differently, I wrote about the way I interpteted it so no need to go back to it. “ናትካ ጥባይን ናይቲ ክተውድቖ ትቃለስ ዘለኻ “ሰብኣይ” ሓደ እዩ። ቅሩብ ዝሕል በል፣” this, taken within its paragraph, is clear I was reminding Haile to tolerate some difference, not comparing him to PIA ( WERIDUWO), it does not show “unhinged arrogance” but a soft way of reminding a brother.
            3/ As far as independence is concerned, there is no way to argue with you; keep consuming what you are consuming. Good luck.
            4/ I do not need a certificate of “justice seeker” from anyone let alone from folks who tell me 5/24 is not an independence day, period. Probably this is my last reply.

          • haileTG

            ማሕሙድ ዝግ በል፡ ኣብኡ ምስተበጽሔ መጸዋዕታ ክለኣኸልካ ተስፋ እገብር። ቀደሙም፡ ዘይተዓደምኩ ኢልካ ዝብኮሮ ውራይ ኣይነበረን። ከምኡ ካብ መሰለካ ግን፡ በዓል ክልተ ዓዲ እንታይ ግድኻ፡ ከም ዝመእመኣካ ምባል እዩ።

            ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ብተጋደልቲ ነበር ክግፋዕ፡ ክህረም፡ ክጭፍለቕ፡ ቅስሙን ሞራሉን ሰይሩ ክድወን ብዓይንና ዝረኣናዮን እንምስክሮን ሓቂ እዩ። እዚ ኹሉ ግዳም ሰፊሩ ዘሎ ህዝቢ፡ ጨኾናን፡ ምልክን ተጋደልትን፡ በረኻዊ ኣካይደኦምን እዩ። ንስኻ ግና፡ ስምን ዝናን፡ ገድሊ ከይከደካ፡ ነዚ ዓይኑ ዘፍጠጠ ሓቂ ጎሲኻ፡ ድኻሞም ኣፍልጦ እንተዘይሃብካ ትብል ኣሎኻ። እዋአ፡ ቀሩብ እባ፡ ድኻምን ከልበትበትን ናይቲ ኣደራዕ ሕሰሞም ተጋሪዑ ሞትን፡ ህልቂትን እናተበራረይሉ ዝነብር ዘሎ ህዝቢ ኤርትራ’ኸ። ካብቶም ዝወቕሶም ዘለኹ ተጋደልቲ ብስጋ ዝቐርቡኒ እኮ ሓያሎ እዮም። ሓው ማሕሙድ፡ ኣነ እውን ብትኽ ክምልሸልካ በል፡ ንስኻ ንገድላዊ ዝና ሰሲዕካ፡ ሓቂ ትበቅቕ ኣሎኻ። ተኽለ ማንጁስ እኮ፡ ብዓለማዊ ሕጊ ዝሕተት ውልቀሰብ ተጋዳላይ ነበር እዩ። ንመን ኢኻ ብኸምዚ ዓይነት ሰልባጥ ስነ-ሞጎት ክትድህል? ነቶም ኣብ ኤርትራ ዝጽፍዑን፡ ዝግረፉን የሕዋትና፡ ይኣኽሎም ንሱ። ሓቂ’ያ ተረዳድኣካ ኣብዚ፡ ምምሕዳር ዞባ ከይመስለካ። ንገድላዊ ታሪኽ ህዝቢ ኤርትራ፡ እቲ ዝሞተሉን ዝተሰዋኣሉን፡ ኩል ግዜ ሓለፋ ክህልዎ ንቡር እዩ። ክሳብ ክንድዚ ምጽናት ወለዶ እናተኻየደ ግን፡ ብዝና ክሸፋፈን ምድላዩ፡ ኣይርደኣንን ኣነ። ንፍትሒ ትቃለስ ተጋዳላይ ነበር እንተኾይንካ፡ ኣብ ማዕርነት ኩሉ ሰብ እመን። እዚ እንተዘይኮይኑ ግን፡ እዚ ድሑር ናይ ምድሃል ስነሞጎት እየድልን እዩ። ካብ ጥፍኣትን ከልበትበትን ህዝቢ ኤርትራ፡ ገድላዊ ዝናኻ ዓብዩካ፡ ቆጭ ቆጭ እንተበልካ፡ ዋላሓንቲ ትርጉም የብሉን። ሎሚ ኣብ ኤርትራ፡ ምስ ተጋደልቲ ምቕራብካ ጥራይ ዝርሕቁኻ መንእሰያት ብዙሓት እዮም። ኸም ኤርትራ ዝኣመሰለ ሓላል ህዝብን ሃገርን፡ ውሉዳ ዘይረግጻ እሾኽ ዝተቐየረት፡ ብዙሓት ሰብኣዊ ርህራሄ ዘብሎም ተጋደልቲ፡ ህዝብን መንእሰይ ወለዶን፡ ገዛእ ርእሱን ሃገሩን ገዲፉ፡ ሃጽ ክብል ስለ ዝደፍእዎ ጥራይ ዘይኮነ’ስ ክሳብ ኣብ ናውቲ ኣካሉ ተዘልዚሉ ክሽየጥ ዘረከብዎ ብዓለማዊ ሕጊ ዝድለዩ ዘለዉ ተጋደልቲ ነበር ምህላዎም እዩ። ብዙሓት ቅኑዓትን፡ ሰብ መትከልን ኣለዉ፡ ግን ነቶም ዝገፍዑ ዘለዉ ብምልዓለይ፡ ገድላዊ ዝናኻ ክንዲ ጎቦ ዓብዩካ፡ ሽግርናን መከራናን ድማ ከም ፍረ ኣድሪ ደቒቑ ተራኢዩካ፡ ደቕኻ እብ ዝተወልድሉ ሃገር ኣሎካ ክትብል፡ እዝዩ ኣሰካፊ ነገር እዩ። ተጋዲለ ንዝብል ሰብ ካብ ኩሉ። ግን ክቡር ሓው፡ ከም ሰብን ዜጋን እምበር ብገድላዊ ዝናኻ፡ (ኣይውስኸሉ ኣየጉድለሉ ኣነ፡ ኣብ ዘለዎ ዘሎ)፡ ከምቲ ሓሰበይ ቅጭ ዘምጻልካ፡ ኣነ ድማ (ከም ዘይተጋዳላይ መጠን) እቲ ዝፍጸም ዘሎ ግህሰትን ግፍዕን ርእየ፡ ሓደ ሓደ እትብሎ ቅጭ ከምጻለይ ንቡር እዩ። ሕጂ እውን፡ ኩናት ብናትካ ኣቃጫጭ ካብ ንቡር መስርሑ ዝተርፍ ኣይኮነን። ብዛዕባ “ተበለጽቲ” ዝበልካዮ ድማ፡ ምናልባሽ ተሞክሮኻ ኢኻ ተካፍል ትኸውን ዘለኻ ኢለ ክገድፎ ይሓይሽ።

          • Ermias

            Hailuwa, beka koley alaelkaley heyy heyyyy yibl aleku. This is what boils my blood more than anything else – former tegadlelti defending Ghedli yet in the process denying what our people are going through. Below is what I wrote to Yodita last week. I was in Asmara 10 years ago and I WITNESSED DEEP MISTRUST AND HATRED TOWARDS TEGADELTI BY EVERY CIVILIAN I SPOKE WITH. It is incredible the animosity there. Ajoka Hailuwa, ahwatka zimotula adi wela tegadalay neber yikun wela nay HIGDEF halafi kabaka nalaeli hanti santim aytibtsohon eya. Please read below.

            ዝኸበርኪ ዮዲታ፤ መቸም እቲ ብጀጋኑ ኣሕዋትናን ኣሓትናን ዝተገብረ መዘና ኣልቦ ቅያታትን መስተንክራትን መስዋእትነትን ዝኽሕዶ ሰብ ዘሎ ኣይምስልንን። ንገለ ገለና ዘዛርበና ዘሎ ግን: እቲ ውጽኢት ምስቲ ዝተኸፈሎ ዋጋ ፍጹም ዘይዳረግ ብምዃኑ እዩ። ኣብ ርእሲኡ ካኣ: እቶም ኩሎም ጀጋኑ ከም በዓል ደጀን: ደቂ መን እዮም ግዲ። ደቂ ህዝቢ ኤርትራዶ ኣይኮኑን። ስለምንታይ ወለዶም ዝሕብሕቦም ስኢኖም ምስ ናይ ሎሚ መንእሰያት ኮይኖም ፍቖዶ ኣውሮጳን ኣሜሪካን መጺኦም ሎሚ ኣይምለስ ጽባሕ ኣይምለስ ኢሎም ኣብ ጽምዋ ዓለም ኣደዳ ስትረስ ዝኾኑ ዘለው። ምኽናይቱ እቶም ዝዓበዩ: የግዳስ ካብቶም ዝነኣሱ ኣሕዋቶም ብፍጹም ዘይልብሙ ደቆም: ኣብ ዕንደራን ትዕቢትን ተሸሚሞም: ምእንቲ ህዝብና ኢሎም ብንቡር ምስ ዓለምን ምስ ጎረባብቲ ሃገራትን ስለዘይዋስኡ እዩ፤ እምበር ኣይጀጋኑን እዮም ዝበለ ሰብ ሰሚዕና ኣይንፍለጥን። እዚ ትፈትውዮ እትመስሊ ህዝባዊ ግንባር ነታ ሃገር ብሒቱ ከም ኩዑሶኡ ዝጻወተላ ዘሎ: ስለምንታይ ንህዝቡ ብክቱር ንዕቀትን ብድዐን ኣቃጫጭን ዘጽንቶ ዘሎ። ኣነ ከም ዝመስለኒ ስድራቤት ስውኣት (ወለዶም፤ ደቆም፤ ኣሕዋቶምን፤ ኣሓቶምን) ካብ እቶም ብህይወቶም ዝኣተው ተጋደልቲ ዝያዳ ነዛ ሃገር ኣውፍዮሙላ እዮም። ስለዚ ንሶም ተረከብቲ ሃገር ክኾኑ እዩ ዝግባእ ኔሩ፤ ክርከቡዋ እውን ዓቕሚን ክእለትን ዘይነበሮምን ዘይብሎምን ኣይኮነን፤ ውላድ እንተዘይብልኪ፤ ምስ ወለድኪ ሽዑ እስከ ምስ ነብሲኺ ተመራመሪ እሞ፤ ነዚ ውላደይሲ ንሃገሩዶ መወፈኹዎ፤ ዝጽበዮ ዓስቢኸ እንታይ ምኾነ እልኪ።

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Haile TG: SALAM HIDER. I regret wasting my INDEPENDENCE DAY this way.

          • haileTG

            Selam to you too (aytrebesh). Your regret is pity, I wonder how those people wasting away in IA’s underground cells must be feeling too. Dejen puts it in less than 1 min like this:

            http://www.tubechop.com/watch/2927483

          • Mahmud Saleh

            HaileTG; I am OK, if only you know how close I am to Dejen. There is a reply for you after your reply to Ali-S, I hope you will find it constructive.

          • Tesfabirhan WR

            Dear Mahmud,

            Again, I read sentences that is paining me. You said, “ኣነ ንነብሰይ ኣይኮንኩን ዝዛረብ ዘለኹ። ዝቕመጠሉ ሃገር፡ ደቀይ ዝተወልዱሉ ዓዲ ኣሎኒ። ንስኻ እውን ከምኡ ትኸውን።”

            Here, you have mentioned three important points.

            1. ኣነ ንነብሰይ ኣይኮንኩን ዝዛረብ ዘለኹ.

            Then, to whom are you for? If it is not for that you are fighting for, it is meaningless. If you don’t have love, you can’t give love, and so is if you can’t fight for yourself, you can’t fight for others.

            2. “ዝቕመጠሉ ሃገር፡ ደቀይ ዝተወልዱሉ ዓዲ ኣሎኒ።”

            But, here, you are talking as an Eritrean and I think you took your innocent kids to a place where you thought that they will rejoice with their countrymen. Why you did that? Why you took your kids there? You could better keep them away from the Eritreans not because they are not Eritreans but because they are far from Eritrea. And hence, they should stay away. But you are wise and your heart is telling you not that way though you failed to listen what your heart was telling you to do so. You denied your heart’s call for JUSTICE and you rejected that by taking your T-Shirt away.

            3. “ንስኻ እውን ከምኡ ትኸውን።”

            No comments here.

            lebam eka mo, kabzi halife entay kibleka.

            hawka
            tes

          • haileTG

            Dear tes

            ” “ዝቕመጠሉ ሃገር፡ ደቀይ ዝተወልዱሉ ዓዲ ኣሎኒ።” Shows the contradiction the good brother lives in, despite his good self. He paid more than many of us for a nation and a country but…ahh

          • Tesfabirhan WR

            Dear haile TG,

            I don’t know, but, we have same comments at the same time. I am in serious debate now with big brother Mahmud. Either be the coach or join us.

            hawka
            tes

          • Tesfabirhan WR

            Dear Mahmud,

            Sorry, but now, I am in serius debate with you. WIth all respect, but, it is a debate between a young generation, the youth and the tegadalay, your age. I did before in Eritrea and I will do it here with you too. Not to disproof it, but to know the youth agony, to tell you that we have been treated as unresponsible though we are not. In fact, we respected you more than we should have.

            You know that, when a father is too much autocratic, children always leave the house (I am talking at family level). You know why? because, they can not fight against him by sticks ad stones. This is what we, the YOUNG generation did. Not because we hate our fathers, but because we respect our fathers, but we need also to be MEN, a MAN like them. But, we can not live in the same room. Either has to leave. The father? NO, let him stay there, the young can leave anywhere and see their chance.

            Then, should the father consider that he is brave or strong enough to kick his own child out of the house? If he is not wise, like the Tegadelti (PFDJ tegadelti -the dhri natsinet tegadelti) – I say the dihri natsinet tegadelti because they (ALl freedom fighters were not father before – but they became fathers after independence -a father is a father only he gets a child, and INDEPENDENCE is a child for tagadalay). But then, they kicked their own child, the independence.

            But, now, the child is visiting back to get the lost independence.

            This is pure logical and my deep understanding between FATHER-CHILD (ADULT) ill-relationship, meaning between the fathers of Independence day and the Independence day by itself.

            Serious debate.

            Hawka
            tes

        • Tesfabirhan WR

          Dear Haile TG,

          How powerful message you have.

          ” ገላዩ ናይዚ ኣጽናቲ ስርዓት ተዓሲቦም ኣብ ውሽጢ ሃገር ቀተልትን ሓረድትን ሸየጥትን ውጹዕ ህዝብና። ኣብ ግዳም
          ድማ ኣዳኸርቲ፡ ኩትሻ፡ ዋጣን ሳዕሳዕትን፡ ናይዚ ኣብ ልዕሊ ኤርትራን ኤርትራውያንን ወሪዱ ዘሎ ታሪኻዊ ናይ ምጽናት
          ሓደጋ ኣተግበርቲ እዩም.” Strong message and really what we have. It is shame also some people who are categorized under this try to fight but fail because it is against what they were indoctrinated.

          Thank you
          Hakwa
          tes

          • haileTG

            Hey Tes

            What bother me most is despite the fact that after the massive debacle after debacle such people are faced with ብሰንኪ ክቱር ንዕቀት፡ ጌና ንህዝብና መቑሖምን ረጊጾምን ክነብሩ ዝኽእሉ ኮይኑ ይረኣዮም ምህላዉ እዩ። ደርጊ በዓላት መስከረም 2 እናረኣየ ህዝቢ ምሳይ ኣሎ ሽሕ ዓመት ክነብር እየ ኩሉ ናብ ጦር ግንባር እናበለ ዓሪቡ። ኣብዚ ፍሉይ እዋን ዝተናውሔ ቃልሲ ኣብ ሰፋሕቲ ግንባራት ድማ፡ ክውንነቶም ጎስዮም፡ ካብ ሓቂ ኣንደልሂጾም ብሓይሊ ድነኑ ክብሉና፡ ዝገርም እዩ። መዔሸዊኦም ኮይኑ ንምሸቱ።

      • Mahmud Saleh

        Haw Sem
        You said, “Also the delineation of EPLF to whom you pay your allegiance and PFDJ whom you abhor is just mind boggling and you do that without a smidgeon of grain of salt, you do that with a straight face.:”

        That’s right.

    • Tesfabirhan WR

      Dear Mahmud Saleh,

      You wrote, “…I obeyed; I took off the T-shirt and joined the crowd…” Good tegadalay abona Mahmud

      All your analogue is well enough and going further will lead to no where but, “Ane ko tegadalay eye.” With all due respect I would like to call you to stand for “JUSTICE.”

      wedika
      tes

      • Mahmud Saleh

        tes:
        I sense the pain my story might have caused you, thank you for the call to stand for justice. Remember, though, if you label all those hundreds (2nd group) were not justice seekers, then we have a problem.

        • Tesfabirhan WR

          Dear Mahmud,

          Yes, your history pained me a lot, more than I can express here. You better know what justice is and I appreciated your stand first. But, what pained me was, …. (better not to write it all).

          Anyway, we have one option and that is to weed-out PFDJ and dismantle the mindset they have installed in every individual.

          Dear Mahmud, I am not responding or trying to write based on hate. I love my people! This is simply my motive, my force and so for you too. What made me to feel your pain is because I love you and I love your kids. That is all. I didn’t wish a divided people and take your kids to such areas. I didn’t wish for your kids to listen such terrific tales. I didn’t wish to see your kids to stay in agony. I always wish a smiley and happy kids. I always wish kids to play freely. Not only me, but the whole “gedli was meant for it.” And that was what you fought for.

          Though all was that good dreams, it was not according to what our big brothers/sisters paid for (including you). Unfortunately, what you see and what you face is different, quite different, 180 degrees. If this is the reality, then what?

          Should we say, : the devil we know is better than a god that we don’t know? If me and you were sitting together, we could have shared the day’s feelings. But, we Eritreans are not lucky. Is it a curse?

          No, no and No.

          I am not superstitious person. I believe that for every problem, there is a solution. You were right that what you faced was a big problem. The problem that we are fighting for, it is not new for you. But, but, you were not brave enough to keep your T-Shirt. You could have done it in different means. And indeed there were many possibilities. I am not against your decision to let the kids join their likes. All are Eritreans. If we don’t work for UNITY in all our spheres of life, then the fight that we doing is meaningless.

          You might have read my frequent posts/comments here. I am not against any single Eritrean person. I am against the system, I am against the regime, I am against the ideology and the policy. When I call you to stand for justice, I am calling you to stand for what you are fighting for.

          Brother Mahmud (I called you aboy Mahmud, you might have figured what my words were meant – not going into further), I prefer always to call you brother, not because of your age, but to feel more comfortable and debate with you. I need your ideas, not your pressure, the YIKEALO-WARSAY relationship. I am against this mindset. Mind me, be humble like your sentences, kill your autocratic nature and debate with us. If you do, there is no option, but to revolt against it. This is what we are fighting for. To create a society that lives in a natural way, not in an autocratic system.

          Your brother
          tes

          • Mahmud Saleh

            salam tes: Thank you for your time and energy. I understand you, and please stay doing what you are doing; your research based articles are important, do not get carried away by names and labels, stay true to yourself. Regarding my short story which stirred up these replies, you will understand the dilema I found myself in If you are a father or when you become a father. Thanks. You’ve been nice to me.

    • Amde

      Dear Mahmud,

      I am sure we can get into the non-ending debate on many issues – as to what is age appropriate, what the meaning of independence is ..etc.. Frankly I am surprised you are doubling down in defending it – especially as a parent.

      I think it is important to read what dawit had responded to me on this very issue just below – he said

      “Dear Amde;
      They say ‘History Repeats Itself’ The Eritrean kids may
      as well be prepared for their reality at early age, especially when you
      have neighbors who keep invading your country or collaborate with those
      in distance places who dream to make you their slaves. For the last 150
      years, there was no single Eritrean generation that did not experience
      invasion by foreign army. That is the reality of Eritrea, especially
      when there are neighbors who don’t believe you deserve to be free and
      live in peace.”

      While he articulated it in a way meant to defend one side, (I gag at his phrasing of “…may
      as well be prepared for their reality at early age…”), I think he is absolutely right in pointing out that there is a historical context of at least 150 years within which we have to look at these little children dancing while brandishing a simulated weapon. We (Ethiopians and Eritreans) have a major security (or rather insecurity) issue along the Mereb that has yet to be resolved. I personally do not believe that Eritrean independence necessarily solves that problem – but that is just your old chauvinist Amde talking. TPLF to their credit went out of their way to shed serious blood and political capital to address it the way they thought it can be addressed, and yet Tigray is back to playing its historical role of where the nation is defended.

      While the difference between EPLF and PFDJ are meaningless to me, you must at least agree that where Eritrea finds itself is a direct result of PFDJ’s belligerent policies with respect to Ethiopia, itself a function of not recognizing the historical and geographical context. Perhaps you think this path is sustainable for Eritrea, but I have my doubts, to put it mildly. You think you are pissing me off by adopting a mocking tone about how we will stay obsessed about the “Eritrean mind-set”. Well, this “mind-set” is responsible for why Eritrea is literally haemorrhaging its youth at their most productive period of life.

      So why should I not be horrified at the sight of children not much older than toddlers literally dancing to the tune of EPLF? Are we to expect yet another generation who will have to prove themselves to be worthy of the EPLF death cult?

      amde

      • Mahmud Saleh

        salam Amde: You’ve been just fine despite my provocations to get you off balance. I do really think what’s acceptable to one society may not be acceptable to another. I do not believe the teachers let those kids go out to have “militarized mind set.” I took it as any of the examples I gave you in my reply. I do agree with most of the contextual backing to your reply. Thank you for the cool manner, you have not disappointed me. Once the independence drug is metabolized, I will return to my cool state3.

      • dawit

        Dear Amde;
        Sorry to interject my self in the discussion between you and Muhamud, but I think you dragged me into it. Let me say first this, I stand by every word I wrote to you in my response. But let me also say this I don’t believe you are genuinely interested about the future of Eritrean and Ethiopian children welfare. Your extreme hate towards EPLF shows it for any one. You are here debating to make some cheap political points on behalf of ‘Ethiopia’. As long as you mind is locked in hatred of EPLF, I may as well say it ‘Eritrea’ we are not to reach any reasonable accommodation of our respected ideas of what is good for the future generations or the security or insecurity of the region.
        Peace

    • dawit

      Dear Brother Tegadalai Mahamud Saleh;
      Thank you for a writing full of wisdom to share with all the misguided Ethiopian friends and young restless Eritreans, who do not appreciate the importance of Eritrean National Independence Day celebration . You did the right thing for taking off the T-Shirt, not because it had an offensive message, but the organizers did not like it for whatever. Therefore you followed the rule of the party and joined it. You had a choice to follow the rule of the party or rebel and start confrontation and try to force yourself ‘crash the party’ which would have been an embasment to your children and others. We all should learn from your wisdom of respecting the law. In a country where the traffic law is to drive on the right, you cant insist to drive on the left because you have the freedom to do so because it is a free country.
      Sincerely
      dawit

      • Tesfabirhan WR

        Dear dawit,

        Sorry if I am jumping. It is good to respect the rule of the party as far as you are the member of the party. but, here we saw a contradiction. The best option he could have done was, to leave both. Sure for the sake of the kids, fathers scarify a lot. I appreciated for that, but the consequence is more than that.

        Have you listened pilot Dejen’s interview? When he was allowed to meet his family for the first time, his mother was fainted. and everybody sure. But, his family said, “we can not give our back because of this hardship for the one that we fought all our lifes. ” (if I quoted wrongly -but the message was sure like that, neti mewaelna zitekalesnalu do mo hji ezi agatimuna elna kinkihdo..”, this is a strong message. And our brother Mahmud is here to share his wisdom, in all spheres of life. And, he is doing it for JUSTICE. Eventhough, it was not good for the kids to take them away from an environment that they can paly happily, nMetkelu elu gina kabta af dege KELIOMNI ELU KIMILES YIKIEL NERU EYU.

        For the children’s sake, ok, he might be right it is not good for the kids to listen the tales that might affect them.

        Anyhow, from this, what we can learn is, we need to change the way we, the opposition camp orginze events. because, we are all fathers. Kulu gegziu alewo.

        Let the kids learn all the good things to build a prosperious future ERITREA.

        What the PFDJ is doing is wrong and this what we are fighting for. I am talking for the justice seekers family.

        hawki
        tes

        • dawit

          Dear tes;
          ‘Wrong Address’ Forwarded to Saba!
          HIGDEF MENDEF Express Mail Service

          • Tesfabirhan WR

            Dear dawit,

            It is addressed for you. take it. Niaka eya kelialem aytigber.

            hawka
            tes

        • dawit

          Wel tes this cyber space mail delivery is confusing me, after Mahmud alerted me that he forwarded my message to him to you I decided to read your message addressed to Saba.
          Dear brother tes, sorry to say this but you are under heavy mental slavery of hate to PFDJ and its leader Isaias. All your reasoning is clouded with that hate so we can not reason and reach any conclusion. You conclude that Mahmud did the wrong decision by taking off the T-Shirt and attended the party! Who are you to suggest that he made the wrong decision for the sake of his children? Do you know what is good for his children? You brought Dejen’s mother into this discussion. Yes she fainted because she did not expected her son will be in prison. But she stood by her lifelong belief and principle. She did not change it because her son was thrown to jail, because Eritrea is greater than her son or herself. That was her belief when she volunteer her life for Eritrea, when Dejen was baby. As a parent she loved her children, but she also loved her country more than herself or her family. I am not going to discuss poor young Dejen ordeal, which the opposition is trying to score a point on Eritrea, PFDJ and Isaias. I have listened to all four interviews so far and I am reserving my judgments to anyone concerned.

      • Mahmud Saleh

        salam dawit:
        Thank you; I passed it on to brother tes.

  • haileTG

    Selamat Awatistas,

    Here is the real Bombshell that is giving a real sleepless nights to hgdefites. They are cracking up, will fully implode soon 🙂 Listen to less than a minuet and half chopped audio here:

    http://www.tubechop.com/watch/2924705

    And that resulted in the next chop, only 12 seconds, from the terrified dictator:

    http://www.tubechop.com/watch/2924749

    • Kokhob Selam

      ·
      “ንመ ጻኢ መግስታዊ ስርዓት መርሓ ፖሎቲካዊ ጎደና ዝቅይስ ቅዋም ምንዳፍ ክጅምር ምዃኑ ኣብ’ዚ ኣጋጣሚ ‘ዚ ክሕብር ይፈቱ:: “ ጫ ብ ጫ ብ ጫ ብ

      ሃይላት ሓወይ :- ኣነስ ካብ በትሪ ሳላሕ የኑስ ኣድሕነኒ ከይሓወስኩ ዘሕለፍኩዋ ጸሎት የላን Lol ። ናግራም እንድዩ: ትዝክር ዶ ቅድሚ 8 ወርሒ ዝጸሓፎ? እሞ እንድዕላ እዛ ወርሒ ብዘይ ዱላ ሳልሕ ህግደፍ ኣይከሓልፉዋን እዮም መስለኒ:: እቲ ኣነ ድማ መቸም እንታይ ግደይ :

      ዘይተገመተ ክግመት ግመ ት ግምታቱ :-
      እቲ ዘይምግማቱ ኣብ ግመት ይኣቱ:-
      ነቲ ዘይፈለጦ ሰሪቁ ኣመቱ :-
      ቶኽላ ዝነበረ ቀይሩ ቆርበቱ:-
      ምስ ኣባጊዕ ይጽንበር ቀይሩ ኣንፈቱ::

      ጉዳይ ዶብ መዕርፎ እንተዘይረኺቡ:-
      ሰላም ክርከብ እዩ ኢልኩም ኣይሕሰቡ:-
      ይብል ከምዘይነበረ ገቲሩ ኣፍ ልቡ:-
      እነሆ ይነግረና ካልእ ተጣቢቡ::

      …ወያል ከደናግር:-
      …….የእቱ ዕግርግር:-
      ……….ናብ ካልእ ይሰግር:-
      …………….የጭበርብር የጭበርብር::

      ………ንሱ ምስ ጸበቦ:-
      ……………..እሾክ ምስከበቦ:-
      ………………….ይደሊ ምደያይቦ :-
      ……………………….ይጎይ መን ከርክቦ::

      ምሉእ ትሕዝቶ ኣብ ጀበና ኣሎ:: you can read it in merhaba jebana 8 months back

      • haileTG

        Brother KS ግዲ’ብልካን

        “ኣብ ዘመነ ጓዕጽጽ እዋን ውራ ውራ

        ታሪኽ ክስራሕ እዩ ኣብ ሜዳ ኤርትራ

        ማዕከን ዜና ዓለም ሽቦኽን ገትራ…”

        Enjoy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV-uxTUSVVw

  • Saleh Johar

    Testing

  • Awet

    Hello deki Erey:
    I am surprise constitution is in his vocabulary. For twenty three years he has blamed for all his failers on the US administration, I guess he is not going to stop anytime soon.

    All he is trying to do is divert attention from all his failers. Drafting constitution? What happen to implementing to the current one? Can his supporters give us a favor and ask that question? If I ask that question, it won’t be valid question because I am agame…opposition… CIA etc

  • said

    I was deeply touched by the comments of Hakim Fanti Ghana , Amanuel lives in Venus, and Ermias Dear God: Amanuel ,Jacque Fresco Founder of the Venus Project for a New World System (see the Link below at the end) is my Hero, the Gandhi of our time at the deeper and consequentially globally, universally and humanely far-reaching objectives. Mortals are short-sighted as driven by their animalistic instincts of avarice, egos, vain, lust for power, jealousies and deep-embedded insecurities.

    Fanti Ghana I read wisdom in your written and compassion and selfless care for your fellow human being, As a Tewfik Hakim, the novelist philosopher, in a craving, two decades ago, to relate to his audience a dialogue with the creator, the First Mind, the Universal Intelligence, departed the human world with a suppressed desire, an ultimate wish to convey to the mortal lot a vision from the zenith of age and wisdom.

    Hakim’s craving. Philosophy and Theocracy, in its customary adherence to the obvious, suffocated a wish bordering on inspiration, right at the bud. The authority of notwithstanding politics and theocracy that clouds the judgment of the laity, of the noisy multitude, the unfortunate wedge to a free flow of the spiritually more attuned of his imagined Conversation With God, deprived Hakim of a last wish.

    Hakim expired a short time after, with a craving, a wisdom locked in the depository of a perishing organ. The mortals were deprived of a chance to ascend in their collective wisdom one notch beyond the obvious, beyond the dictates of limiting sensory perceptions. They remained locked in a debasing human vanity.

    Venturing into that taboo, borrowing the same title that since has adorned the cover pages of a serialized international best seller; the sense a similar urge, the craving of Hakim at the twilight of his earthly Journey. Never ask an aspiring spiritual how privy a mortal is to another mortal’s non-professed thought labyrinth. It is the whole point, the intuitive, and the unobstructed path to the omnipresent perennial wisdom of the very original source of our borrowed material existence.

    The imagined conversation with God transcends the contemplative and speculative. The conversation with the ultimate wisdom is as the nomer implies, is needing to dwell in his sanctuary, the very inner self that the cacophonies of the mundane conspire to contain and deny.

    The cacophonies of the mundane find expression in every detail the vanity of man shrouded our earthly existence with under the rubrique of the illusions of urgency, survival and insecurity. The cacophonies of the mundane are the very material world the touted civilization of expediency set as the governing precepts that grip our minds and souls. The cacophonies of the mundane are the very realities that increasingly obstruct the free flow of the intuitive, and exponentially divert the intended, the very purpose of life, from its rightful means, rendered with aberration the exploits of the self-styled our so called our ruling elite.

    Aspiring to the placidity of the harmony with the inner self, imagined conversing with God, our ultimate quest, the path is ever obstructed. The cacophonies, entailing hitherto mistaken judgment of life priorities, rendered us a captive of emotional attachments, and realities distorted by ethnobiological allegiances, a priori.

    We some time rendered a slave of the impromptu, the myopia of instant gratification permeating the soul, the mind and the spirit. and the churning out of robotic humans from the institutions of learning – formatted to readily conform to the requisites of the new Gospel to upholding to misery of our father land – are the daily mantra.

    As per Ermias saying Dear God, Brotherhood of man and solidarity, is proving, our God, in the jargons of the craze of Eritrean nation, unworkable, dysfunctional. It is an unnecessary impediment to productivity, the central tenet of sustained competitive advantage, the pillar of the nation building none existence, only empty slogan , in todays may 24th the independence day the fixation of never ending..

    As for our ruling elite class drunk with power. Emulation of the successful, as measured by material gains, is polluting their souls and the Spirit at the speed of a brush fire with the melodic authoritative tones, for isolated nation and without being of part Globalization, Economic Liberalization and Free-market economies. New vocabulary, dear God, to an age ancient satanical verses of oppression, subjugation, Greed, Exploitation, and social stratification.

    our ruling elite class selfishly, Viewing the onslaught of materialistic culture – in the cloak of globalization and modernization – from the optic of a dormant receiver, the developing, underdeveloped, third-, fourth-, and fifth-world, the vast majority deprived, our God, from pleading and supplications in totally humility with you at your sanctuary, the very inner self. Our people increasingly deprived of freedom and dignity, our God, from the inner peace under the urges of conforming to others’ expectations.

    The dictates of the new culture of oppression and subjugation and we are not part of the world of globalization/modernization are reducing us, the elated, revered creatures endowed with the bless of the power of discernment, the virtue of the right of choice, a mere number, an insignificant element in the continuum of a sea of monolithic design tailored to the caprice of the elite few that took from proud people their rights of freedom, liberty and dignity the hegemonists under new skin.

    In today’s world, Instant communication, internet and biotechnology, scientific breakthroughs, our

    God, that speeded far ahead of the evolution of our conscious awareness and spirituality. Science, all of the sudden, our God, is rendered a tool of destructive behavior.

    The millions human multitude of Eritreans subsisting below poverty lines – third-, fourth- and fifth-world lines – the few of our ruling elite class are part and parcel world class as they perceive themselves as told before the Oscar ceremonies before TV screens, and business celebrities of the Eisens and the likes across magazines, that those are the set of values to emulate, the glare of unfathomable wealth. Your sole chances to fast wealth, you the downtrodden – so is strongly insinuated – not hard honest labor, considering the unthinkable odds, but rather whatever means can get you there.
    No wonder, thus, our God, that with flourishing globalization comes drug pushing, human smuggling, slavery and money laundering ,the list is long , just to name a few and our few ruling elite class are good at it.

    Added to our great predicament, our God, is our deprivation of reaching you at your sanctuary. The shattering of the inner peace and harmony, the prerequisites d’entamer for pleading and supplications in totally humility, a call to you, our God, is our true predicament. How true can a creature be to his/her real self if detached from the pains and sufferings of his/her natural surroundings? The injustices meted against the meek of our surrounding; the arrogance, tres aveugle, of power exhibited in daily assault on decency by the dictorship and xenophobists, the ungodly, sadly under whatever name and ideology , that diminishes us, our God.

    Many of us would like to make confession, our God. Although, our God, some of us too fallible to will a life for others, we are constantly shrouded with guilt, that being the instrument to the advent to this world of most gorgeous offspring called our nation , we having not figured the wisdom of our existence in this wide Theatre of the Absurd.

    the Venus Project

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4l3pBovB_c

  • haileTG

    Hello Awatista,

    As we enjoy our slow weekend, no doubt that we will soon get to business and trounce the useless IA and his desperate, senile and confused hallucinations.

    But for now, to the guys going bombsh!t or whatever, let me assist you with some cold logic:

    1 – ኢሰያስ ክቡራትን፡ ክቡራንን ክብል እንከሎ፡ ነቶም ተኾይጥክሙሎም ዘሎኹም፡ ካብ ማርሞ ዝተጸርቡ ደነጉላ ኩርሲ ትዓዘብቲ ባሕቲ መስከረም እምበር፡ ነቶም ኣብኡ ሓኹርኩም ትሰራሰሩ ዘለኹም ጽንጽያ ከምዘይኮነ ኣስተብህሉ።

    2 – እቲ ተሰንድዩ ትብልዎ ዘለኹም ቡምባ፡ ናብ መን እዩ? ሃለቃ ወዲ ገራህቱን፡ እቲ ገስረጥ ህበይ የማነን’ዶ ሓንሳብ ምስ ቪኦኤ ሓሳብ ብትዊተር (ጋኔን ይተርትሮም) ንየው ነጆ እናበሉ፡ ቁዋም ተተግቢሩ እዩ። ሓደ ሓደ እዩ ተላዒሉ ዘሎ ምእንቲ ሃገራዊ ድሕነት ክብሉ እምበይከረሙን? ካላኣይ ድማ ቁዋም እኮ ሰብ የድልዮ፡ ካብ ዝተኾየጥሉ ዳንጎላ ዘይሓይሽ ሓምሓም መጣቓዕቲ ሒዙ ብመን እዩ ክጽሕፎ? ከምቲ መንገዲ ኣየር፡ ንፓኪስታናዊያን ሰብ ጥሮታ ዓዲሙ ድዩ ክገብሮ?

    መቸም ክርታቲያ ህግደፋውያን፡ ናይ ልክዕ ሕስራንክን፡ ምሕንፋፍክን ዜሐጉስ እዩ። ንሕና ግን፡ ናጽነት፡ ብዛዕባ ናጽነት እናተመራመርና ኢና ነሕልፋ። ዽሕሪኡ የራኽበና።

  • Pappillon

    Dear Saleh Johar,

    Is there any way you can ask Dr. Bereket Habteselassie if there is any legal precedence where about an already ratified Constitution gets annulled and a new one gets drafted without the consent of the people? Thank you.

    Haft’kha.

    • Saleh Johar

      Hi Pappillion, no promise but I will try.

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam SGJ,
        Aren’t you, yourself talking about the wedinni document that you couldn’t have tolerance when I mentioned it? Wey Antum Sebat.

        Senay MeAlti,
        Amanuel Hidrat

        • Saleh Johar

          Amanuel, could you please explain what you mean by the above? I couldn’t understand it. Still, I don’t have tolerance for anything that comes from the wedini camp. What seems to be the problem?

          • Semere Andom

            Saleh:
            Lucky Eritrea unlike the USA, Canada and all the democratic nations will have two ratified constutitionall after the new one is written and ratified. Now Eritrea is “multi-constitutional” an innovations in the rule of law that is conceived in Eritrea, we have left Ethiopia in the dust with its one document and fake parties, we have one real party and two real documents, the journey was long but we will ended up with a “multi-constitutional” government, just like our armed struggle.

          • Pappillon

            Dear Semere,

            I thought his motto was መሬት ኤርትራ ካብ ክልተ ንላዕሊ ቅዋም ክጻወር ኣይክእልን እዩ. I bet you if he was to change it drastically and crown himself as the King of Eritrea, his zombies would dance the night away for that for he considers them particularly those who are in diaspora as his private xxxxxx.

            Haft’kha.

          • Kokhob Selam

            He could have done it by the way sister Pappillon, and sure supporters will dance, no question asked. I visited some supporters and I call some on phone. Most of them said “you see, the man has mission and he knows what to do in every stage” but none among them answers a simple question “what is constitution and how it should be accomplished, non of them knows that it is from people to people, not one party job. in fact they didn’t listen word by word what he is saying except qwam. He said “ንመ ጻኢ መግስታዊ ስርዓት መርሓ ፖሎቲካዊ ጎደና ዝቅይስ ቅዋም ምንዳፍ ክጅምር ምዃኑ ኣብ’ዚ ኣጋጣሚ ‘ዚ ክሕብር ይፈቱ:: “ they didn’t read it carefully, they don’t want. ንመ ጻኢ መግስታዊ ስርዓት መርሓ ፖሎቲካዊ ጎደና ዝቅይስ how, who should participate etc. forget about those nonsense and useless supporters Pappillon. when change start they will not support him and even they will come to Asmara before you and me (those in diaspora).

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam SGJ,

            First a reminder: AT have created an etiquette how to conduct ourselves and greet people(like selam, selamat, dear, kubur…etc). I think Saay has mentioned many times. I welcomed and applauded for it. And I am sure it helped to bring civility in our debate. Is it exceptional to us or it includes to the Team ? Just I am curious to know.

            Back to your question. My previous statement is simple. You accused me of promoting the “wedinni” planned document. I asked you what did I promote? You didn’t answer my question. In fact if you could check Saay’s formula and how Issayas formula is framed by him, I wasn’t out from his formula. Yeah, you could tolerate him but you couldn’t tolerate me just to say few about it.

            Now when Pappi asked you to consult Dr. Bereket regarding the planned constitution in reference to the ratified but shelved document, you will do so. Aren’t you going to talk to him about the “planned wednni” document visa vis the one in shelf. So the point I made is, you could talk about it but not me. How about that.

            Senay MeAlti,
            Hawka Amanuel

          • Saleh Johar

            Selam, Selam Amanuel,

            If you thought I dropped the salutation intentionally, you are wrong. And if you thought like that, I apologize.

            But for fairness, when I read a comment ending with a disturbing exclamation “Wey Antum Sebat,” it makes me ask: what have I done to Amanuel. At that moment, I forget the formalities of salutation and get to the pint. That is what I did. It was a natural reaction to your closing remark. But let;s not keep petty things between our teeth for too long, that kills debate more than the absence of “Hi” or “Dear” does. Let’s move on.

            Honestly Amanuel, I do not remember accusing you of anything in relation to the wedini document. How could I? I know your position. If I commented something, though I don’t remember what or in what context, I am dead sure I can’t accuse you of promoting the document. Did you promote it and I didn’t see it? I can’t explain that Amanuel.

            Pappillion asked me if I could ask Dr. Bereket to see his take on the development. I said I will try to do that. And yes, that is what I will ask him if I do talk to him. I have talked to him and others who consider the document a divine one. I do not agree with them, but i do talk to them about it. Always telling them they are wrong.

            Don’t accuse me of telling you not to talk about it. I didn’t and I can’t. So I don’t see any reason for your reaction.

            bselam Hder my dear friend… take it easy

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Merhaba Saleh (SGJ),

            Peace be among us. Let alone here in the this forum, we are struggling to bring peace to our people at large. So no qualms at all my friend.

            But, to clear the incidence, you could roll all the way down to find your comment which says. “Amanuel, one thing I know I will never tolerate is this: someone coming to promote the Wedini’s planned constitution.” You will find it just after my comment to Pappi.

            Thank you for the clarification to my stand. Senay Mishet.

            Hawka,,
            Amanuel Hidrat.

  • AMAN B. AMAN

    1-Now that WE in the diaspora feel accomplished what was passed
    in our first congress for the salvation of our people inside and
    outside the country with great courage and skill to success…..
    2-And encouraged by many nationalists who put first the interest
    and unity oth their country and people before the interests of
    parties ( whether ruling and in power or opposing)……………
    3-Not deterred by few from both camps of actions of threat,intimidation,
    or smear campaign of lies and defaming character assasinations……..
    3-Not outsmarted by outsider or insider spies and their half truths.Lies
    and manipulative,distortive and distractive actions,plays and games……
    I AM ASKING A REPLY FROM OUR MEMBERS WHO ARE ALL OVER
    WHAT SHOULD MY NEXT MISSION BE TO SERVE OUR COUNTRY
    AND PEOPLE AGAIN AFTER THE SUCCESSESS AND ACCOMPLISHMENTS
    WE REGISTERED SO FAR ?
    Thankyou all our brave members of the IUPAC & independent workers united party of Africa
    in the world which has so far registered impressive results for all the people
    oppressed and denied justice by dictatorial regimes and systems.
    Because new updated system is required; repeating the old nomenclatures
    and methods will do no good but disservice to at present to the new system.

    (AMEN)

  • bombshell

    PIA’s Bombshell Independence Day Announcement

    President Isaias Afewerki’s bombshell Independence Day Announcement regarding the drafting of a new constitution does
    not come as a surprise to those of us who have been saying all along that President Isaias Afewerki, who is the George Washington of Eritrea because he was a leader during the fight for independence and later became its first President,
    and the current Government of Eritrea are keenly aware of the frailties of human nature and that when the time is right they will bequeath a working, constitutional government to the next generation. The fact that the drafting of a new constitution
    was announced today might come as a surprise to some, but it shouldn’t if you have been paying attention for the last three years or so. President Isaias has hinted at this on several occasions. The 1997 constitution had many good things in it so it can still serve as the basis. The Eritrean people and their government can leverage the 1997 constitution, keep the parts that they think will work and are appropriate for the Eritrean society and discard the ones that won’t work as well. This is perfectly normal. Nations go through many changes early in their nationhood. Eritrea at 23 years old is a baby. The history of nations is written over a long period of time. The 1997 constitution was written while Eritrea was a brand new state and its government was new to the business of running a modern nation-state. With the benefit of hindsight and experience, Eritrea can produce a new and more perfect document that will help it form a better governing document. The timing is appropriate in that the political fortunes of Eritrea’s arch enemy, Weyane Tigray, also appear to be changing. Weyane is itself in trouble with the ethnic federalism it introduced to the Ethiopian polity and doesn’t pose the threat it once did to the Eritrean State. Eritrea is fortunate in some ways because it was tested early in its infancy and survived the challenges to its sovereignty and nationhood. As the saying goes, “What doesn’t kill you only makes you stronger.” Having survived the early challenges to its nationhood from a determined enemy, it can now chart a new road map for the future Eritrean State and its posterity. President Isaias has hinted at this several times in the past so work on this matter might be further along than one suspects. In any case, Eritrea now has the benefit of hindsight and the experience of running a modern nation-state in this complex global arena that will enable it to come up with a more suitable governing document for its posterity.

    Read more: http://www.madote.com/2014/05/pias-bombshell-independence-day.html#ixzz32g5MfgHF

    • Pappillon

      An astute observer earlier today said that, the tyrant might as well deny if he ever said anything about Constitution for he has an early onset of dementia (read: as the liver starts to fail, it doesn’t detoxify ammonia and an accumulated level of ammonia leaks into the brain and destroys brain cells.)

    • dawit

      Dear Bombshel,l

      Ya it is a ‘bombshell’ PIA shattered the opposition with one speech and pulled the rug under their feet. They are barking from all directions when few years ago when a group of opposition Eritrean Muslim scholars I remember published a document in this Awate.com “Eritrean Waala”? It pointed the flaws of the ratified Eritrean Constitution, and the Chief Architect Dr. Bereket
      Habteselassie, admitted the problem and suggested for amendment or change it. PIA is suggesting rewriting a new one, perhaps which will replace the defected one. That throws opposition off guard. Indeed real bomb shell.

      • Semere Andom

        Hi dawit
        No DIA did not shatter the opposition, he did what the opposition predicted and expected. What he did was tell you his rampant supporters, yea those who send their teenage daughters from the west to the annual prligrimage of intoxication to conceal how bad job they did, he told you the constution you ratified, your opinions do not matter and you clapped, smirked and then you bowed and then as Serray the Supreme said in few years he will tell you something new and the dead cells will again clap, smirk in shame and cowardice and you will dance 24 years of bondage on May 24. In the mean time you will straddle the worlds of freedom, your home in the west and the world of servitude, Eritrea until the most reliable arbitrator, TIME intervens.

        The unbridle position of the justice seeking Eritreans was to implement the constution, knowing full well that it was repulsive and the justice seeking Eritreans if the new constitution that you guys are getting hard on is ever ratified, will agree with its implementation with all its lewdness and the vulgarity that the protozoan supporters will say by then

        • dawit

          Dear Semere,
          Well Semere it is wise to waite for your TIME to come. In the meantime it is PIA time and he will write his Constitution and ratify is by the Eritrean people. You are wondering what will be for the one written and ratified but not implemented? Now Constitution is not the word of God. It is written by people at various times of their history. Egypt went through three constitution in the past three years. Mubarek had the 1971, Moris wrote 1912, and now they have a brand new one for Sisy. Constitution come and go, but the country and its people remain the same over TIME.
          Now Semere I know AT have special constitution for its participants that allows people like you to pass insults as you please. As I indicated to your friend XXXXX I am not in the business of ‘Insult Trading’. If you want to exchange ideas, well, I welcome you, if not please find your equal in the insulting trading business.
          Yours Truly the Protozoan

          • Cento 100 percent

            Dear dawit,
            Even in America, constitution is considered to be a living, breathing document that changes with the times. So you are absolutely right that it is not written in stone. It should be changed for the times as circumstances change. It is not etched in stone. I agree with you 100 percent.

      • Pappillon

        Hgdef Mendef,

        I thought the rationale for suspending the ratified Constitution was the border issue which is still in a limbo. My understanding is that nothing hitherto has changed as far as the border is concerned. ኣነ ኣብ ሂወተይ ምሉእ ከማኹም ህግደፋውያን ድሁላት xxxxx ለኽባጣት ሰባት ርእየ ኣይፈልጥን. No wonder the tyrant is riding you without a license.

        • dawit

          Dear XXXXX,
          I do not visit Awate.com to trade insults with you. Please find your equal on the ‘Insulting Business’. Have a nice Sunday
          Yours Truly
          Hgdef Mendef

    • haileTG

      Here is a warning to gullible HGDEFITE for free:

      – Please don’t be applauder to the dictator’s false olive branch to justice seekers who are gearing up to raise the ante in the pressure to be applied. You being considered HGDEFite (IA’s doormat), the message was not intended to you. If you congratulate IA for uttering the word “constitution” under duress, then you are invalidating his wanton oppression and distraction of the nation. It means you are agreeing that his regime was unlawful thus far, it means you are on the pro-justice side. And his hasus will take down you name and you will be langa langa and may even be disappeared on your next visit to the country under hgdef occupation. So, dear gullible hgdef, don’t jump up and down, you’re watched from behind 😉

  • haileTG

    These are called Suzinino 🙂

    • dine

      what about Minime Suzinino or Mini Me Warsay.

    • Mini Me

      haile TG.
      I just hope the guns they are carrying are toy guns and not real guns. They look like they could be real guns to me. You never know.

  • Serray

    Selamat everyone,

    The guy with a gay mustache denied at least 4 things in one speech: he denied he ignited the wars with Yemen, Djibouti, Ethiopia and the icing on the cake, he denied there is a ratified constitution sitting somewhere in his dungeons. What should give his mindless supporters a nightmare is: what if he believes everything he said? What if he is that psychotic? If you are one of his supporters and you believe his bullshit, then when the second constitution is drafted and ratified, the logical step is to wait for him to ignite a border war with sudan. Ironically, the only guests he mentioned by name are the rulers of a government headed by a genocide maniac…his next target.

    If there was any doubt that he ignited badme to discard the constitution, he removed it in this speech. Since nothing has changed after he lost the war he ignited 14 years ago, the timing of resuscitating the talk of drafting a constitution points to his calculation that he can stay in power while throwing some bones to his mind numbingly daft cheerleaders. The isaiasists can, of course, prove to the rest of us that they are not mind numbing daft by asking one simple question of their psychotic hero, “why not implement the ratified one”?

    Here is my favorite part of his speech, “… foundations for a sustainable economic order is substantial and that it is growing, sector by sector,with time in terms of quantity, quality and capacity can be gauged easily by the facts on the ground. That its pace and momentum will increase is also evident. Indeed, this is why we are witnessing a surge in frantic hostilities in a futile bid to stem its progress”. The proof that the economy is growing is the, “the frantic hostilities” of the world…and the disappearance of basic necessities, electricity and clean water. To be him is psychotic but to be believe in him must something, way, way, worse. Imagine, he thinks you are so dumb you buy this crap…if you are not blessed with a single brain cell, you are doomed.

    • Semere Andom

      Hi Serray:
      The one celled protozoans are easy to deal with: you institutionalize them or employ them in the army as cleaners, but many of those who support DIA are either innately evil or made and chose to be evil. But the good thing is that every prisoner who escapes like Dejen, every speech the dictator makes, every news slowly, but inevitably erodes regime.
      But what is mind boggling is while all the prisoners and dungeons are staffed by “Eritreans” there is no single mass freeing of prisoners. I always fantasize a former tegadali in charge of the Era Ero prison one day will summon all the courage by remembering his youth in ghedli and release all the prisoners and then, a copy cut does the same in one of the prisoners in Asmara, then some of us will become romantics, but not fully fledged, we will be dubbed, the rehabilitated de-romantics”, those who believe after seeing” 🙂

      Sem

      • Serray

        Selamat Semere,

        Outside the mindless supporters, the rest of the regime supporters are opportunists and tools. I don’t know which ones are worse; those who are evil because it benefits them or those who are evil because they choose to serve evil.

        Sal asked once WWTD (what would tegadedi do?) if sinai happened during ghedli. Well, your point about freeing innocent prisoners gives that a new meaning because a big chunk of them are alive and kicking and watching and guarding and rounding innocent victims in country they still believe they brought independence and are ready to celebrate its 23 anniversary. It is mission accomplished for them. They curved out a nation, delivered it to a guy who measures success by how frantic and hostile his nemesis are and they called it a day.

        But if they were to do it, if they were to free prisoners enmass…..nah, they won’t do it; the enemy speaks their language now; it will also be an admission that their mission – a mission they were ready to give with their lives up – have failed.

        I am looking forward to discussing the drafting of the constitution with my pfdj friens and relatives, though. It will be fun watching them struggle to come up an with an excuse about what is wrong with the old one. Then isaias will tells them, “what constitution” and they have to forget both the excuses and the constitution. The advantage of being in the opposition is you own you words, your mind; they have to watch the ticker run by a madman.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Serray,

          You have said “The advantage of being in the opposition is you own you words (and) your mind “. Rightly so. We will be condemned or praised by our own words and actions, and not by being enablers to the words and mission of the despot.

          Senay Mishet,
          Amanuel H.

  • Abinet

    We are smart enough to realize that it is our Independence Day too .enjoy your party and take care of yourself.
    Thanks

  • tes

    Dear All,

    A new constitution drafting is officially launched by DIA and there is a definite order from the tyranny in Asmara about the first article?

    Article 1:

    All Eritreans shall abide by law to be under the indefinite slavery of military conscription under the Gedli ideology.

    Hawkum
    tes

    • Mini Me

      These guys look like mini tegadeltis.
      They are probably the grandsons of tegadeltis.
      First, there was Yikalo. Then his son Warsay came.
      What do you call Warsay’s son?

    • Amde

      The obscenity of pictures like these break my heart.

      • Mahmud Saleh

        But when mini ጸረ ኢጣልያ ኣርበኞች dance in mesqel adebabay, it does not break your heart; when boys scout march in your city parade, it does not break your heart, only ghedli enactments break your heart. This ghedli thing!!

        • dine

          there is no anti-Italia dance in mesqel adebaby or any where in ethiopia. get your fact right first.there is only a celebration of victory against invaders. r u telling us it is normal 3-4 years kids with a guns?

          • Amde

            What is sad is that he thinks it is OK to compare this to the Boy Scouts.

      • dawit

        Dear Amde;
        They say ‘History Repeats Itself’ The Eritrean kids may as well be prepared for their reality at early age, especially when you have neighbors who keep invading your country or collaborate with those in distance places who dream to make you their slaves. For the last 150 years, there was no single Eritrean generation that did not experience invasion by foreign army. That is the reality of Eritrea, especially when there are neighbors who don’t believe you deserve to be free and live in peace.

        • Amde
          • dawit

            Before you flood your crocodile tears for Eritrean children do you as an Ethiopian believe that they have the right to live in peace in an independent nation Eritrea?

        • dine

          Hi dawit, these kids r like my kids even though i don’t have one . as for you, be prepared 24/7, especially when u have Bedouins and rashaida who keep chasing young eritreans 24/7 they r your enemy not ethio..

          • dawit

            When did Bedouins invaded Eritrea. No Ethiopia is the historic deadly enemy of Eritrea! Check your history of aggression and betrayal of Eritrean people.

          • Abraham

            Dawit, don’t bother. Many of them are directly in bed with weyane. They secretly wish for Eritrea to be attached with Ethiopia. They support the traitors currently in jail who conspired with weyane in 1998 during the war. They have love for Ethiopia.

      • Nitricc

        Amde what I failed to understand is what is to you? I mean why do you care?
        I don’t get it?

        • Amde

          Nitricc,

          call me an old romantic – I would like to see at least a generation of brothers not killing each other. This picture tell me that dream is ways off.

          Didn’t you say you have children? What do YOU think about this picture? Remember the kids that are leaving the country in droves were probably dancing costimed just like this a mere 10 or 15 years ago.

          amde

          • Nitricc

            Haha Amde. I don’t have kids but if I had or if I will, they will be doing exactly what you have seen on that picture.
            If Eritrea to be protected; then that kind of society is needed to do the job. It is easy for you to be outraged when you come with 90 million people. But when you are tops 6 million and trying to survive among 90 million people who wanted your head then nothing is wrong to prepare your children to vigilant.

  • Mahmud Saleh

    Dear Awetistas” Eritrea is not made of clay. She is made of steel. She will survive, and, yes, she will come back roaring!” Fanti Ghana

    The best quote I have read in recent memory.

    ሓንቲ ሃገር ብዜጋታታ ትነብርን ትበርስን። ርእሰ-ተኣማንነት ናይ ዜጋታት ኣገዳሲ እዩ። ኣብዚ ቃልሲ’ዚ እውን እቶም ኤርትራ ብናይ ግዛእ ርእሳ ውሽጣዊ ዓቕሚ እያ ትቕየር፡ ኩሉ ካልእ ናይ መቀላጠፊ ወይ መደናጐዪ ግደ ጥራይ እዩ ዝጻወት ዝብሉን ንኲናትን ህውከትን ዝቃወሙ ወገናት ደገፍ ክወሃብ ኣለዎ።

  • Bravo Lion of Nakfa!

    PIA is da man! I welcome the announcement by the Lion of Nakfa! Happy Independence Day to all! I can’t wait to get off work and go to the community center tonite, dance my ass off and eat my face off. Rihus Mealti Netsantet to those of you who are Eritreans. If you are not Eritrean, well it was your independence too if you are smart enough to realize it. You don’t have to spend a gazillion dollars a year on trying to force a country and people that don’t want to be a part of you.

  • Fanti Ghana

    [Dear Moderators, I am kind of conflicted about where, how, or even whether I should post this story. I am posting it here for the sole purpose of lifting some spirits up. If you feel that it doesn’t belong here please feel free to take any action on it as you wish. Thanks.]

    Made of Steel Heroes

    Between 1979 -1982 I used to work for a Swedish run clinic called Sudan Council of Churches. Well, in the Sudan. I was one of 18 carefully selected health workers who shuttle from one refugee camp to another to diagnose and treat tuberculosis patients. We were known as “The TB Team.” The last and largest refugee camp I worked at was called UmseKaTa (0). My main responsibilities were to register new patients, home visit existing patients (usually to check for members of the family for illness, but to also ensure that patients were taking their medication on time) and to give an injection when there is no one else designated.

    One Saturday morning, a beautiful young lady shows up at the clinic carrying a child who was crying incessantly, and as I was walking toward her, I asked why the child was crying. With a hint of a smile she replied: “I am here for you to tell me why she is crying.” Instinctively, the word that flashed in my mind was “Tefaena,” but, sheepishly, I said “I stand corrected, let me register her name quickly and we go from there.” She agreed. The adrenaline from being logically slapped still rushing in my vein I politely asked what the baby’s name was. She, quickly, answered “Africa!”

    I froze for a second, but I also thought she must have misheard me, so, pointing my pen toward the child, I repeated the question, and she repeated her answer, slower this time, “her name is Africa Selah.” I was shocked, intrigued, ecstatic, and somewhat envious. My all time favorite name until that moment had been ‘Ethiopia’ given to an Eritrean women. So, the ‘Harambe’ in me still in excitement, I asked why in the world she named her child “Africa.” It was not me who named her, it was her crazy father! She replied. I said “it is the most beautiful name I have ever heard, and please, please, you must introduce me to this crazy father with such a creative mind.” She assured me that he will be happy to, and, sweeping the air with her hand toward my direction to indicate all the employees, she added “he is like you anyway.” Hopping to avenge the earlier slap, I tried “Hakim kemana do Tsilul kemana” (1)? she shyly yelled: “no, no, no, kemakhum mihur iyu, neAkhum eyu zimesil maletey iye” (2).

    After a brief “do you believe me, yes I do” stare at each other, we both turned our attention to Africa Selah.
    Africa didn’t look ill to me, but I decided to ask for malaria and tuberculosis symptoms. As I was making notes, one of our half a dozen patients who were waiting for a lab result (I am a little hazy on who it was, so it could have been one of my colleagues too), accurately diagnosed Africa just by looking at her for “absolutely nothing wrong with her, but she probably needs some water to drink.” The patient was correct! Africa’s mother’s frantic reaction to fetch water, including quickly pulling one of her breasts out, was indescribable in any language. We, the whole clinic, laughed until we were sick. You see, we all knew that the mother should have known to begin with, but we also knew that this was her first child and that she was very young herself (17-18).

    So, with eye contacts only, we all agreed that she should be forgiven. At the same time, I am the “Hakim,” I should have known as soon as I saw her, but I am a man, a very young man at that, so I was automatically forgiven too. Except for the teary eyes and heartfelt laughs, we all shared that incredible moment in silence. The only sound came from the next hut when one of my colleagues shouted in Amharic “ere ebakachuh betun satefersew telo wuha sTwat (3)!” Africa’s mother and I agreed to seal our friendship in front of everybody with the following terms: she will make the best coffee I ever had when I visit their home later, and I will come up with a convincing story about the nature of her visit to the clinic that day, so that “Selah won’t laugh at me for a month!”

    Two hours later, Selah came to invite me home for lunch. Stretching my hand to greet him, I rhetorically asked “you must be Selah.” Yes, I am, and you must be “Girmawi Kedamawi.” What? Well, the way my wife is preparing for your arrival you better be Haile Selassie or something. He couldn’t wait to find out what kind of favor she owed me. His smile and his sense of humor were disarming, and I was tempted, but I wanted to know about the coffee first, so, I asked him if she was making coffee too. Mr. Selah shoots himself on the foot by telling me that “she is not only making coffee she even bought new coffee cups!”

    It turned out that Selah was one of the very few survivors of Ona (meeting Ona survivor in those days had a special effect on me, but that is a story for another time). As you will learn shortly, Selah turned out to be a uniquely special person. He is Tigre-Eritrean who spoke Amharic fluently, and I am an Ethiopian Christian who could read and write Arabic (unheard of in those days), so, we became friends instantly. I, of course, couldn’t wait to ask him the question of the millennium: “Why did you name your daughter Africa?”

    In the 70s, some Arab countries were kind enough to give student visas to the few Ona survivors, and Selah was one of them. Upon his arrival in Syria, he was standing behind a Sudanese traveler at the airport check out, and he noticed one of the Syrian guards telling the Sudanese passenger to pass through without searching him. However, the same guard searched Selah from head to toe before letting him through. Selah is very light skinned and fluent in Arabic who could easily pass for an Arab, but up to this point Selah didn’t make an issue of that little episode until what he heard next. A second guard, who was observing the incoming passengers along with the searcher, pointed out to his colleague that he forgot to search the previous passenger. “No I didn’t forget to search him” he replied, and with the most arrogant tone you can imagine he continued “I just didn’t want to touch that Abid” (Slave).

    Selah’s world turned upside down. He is too just minded to ignore that, but too helpless in a foreign land to do something about it either. He thought about it carefully, and he made up his mind to go back to the Sudan! Selah came back to the Sudan with no real future to look forward to. He made that incredible sacrifice for his principle and integrity of what life should be about. No trace of any regret or anger! To him it was simply a matter of principle and the only thing one must always have. When I tried to advise him to take his family and go back to Syria if that visa was still valid, I was unsuccessful.

    “saHbi” (my friend), he began, “I can’t possibly live with a society that thinks like that. I understand that all Syrians may not be like that policeman, but I will always be looking for a negative thought in every Syrian nonetheless. Believe me if you always look for a negative thought you will always find it, and that means you will die slowly inside. Here I may be poor but I can laugh and live.”
    Oh my, oh my, I was so mesmerized I didn’t know what to say to him next. You see, in those refugee camps we were supposed to be the miracle workers. Most of the refugees knew that we were there not just for the salary, but because we cared too. They see it in our eyes, in the amount and kind of hours we spend with them, and in the extra services we sometimes provided. But, in that moment sitting across from Selah, I felt like a mouse staring at a giraffe.

    Those of you who are familiar with what life meant in the Sudan during those days I am sure you can imagine the magnitude of Selah’s resolve. Nonetheless, life continued for Selah. He met his beautiful wife, and they were blessed with the most beautiful child they ever saw, and Selah named their child “Africa!”

    Brothers and sisters, I was once fortunate enough to laugh with my friend and my teacher Selah.

    At this stage of Eritrea’s never ending drama in which the actors are now masked, I feel your pain, I understand your agony, but, please, please, do not ever despair. Not even for a moment. Eritrea is not made of clay. She is made of steel. She will survive, and, yes, she will come back roaring!

    Happy Independence Day!

    Keys:
    0. I saw some people misspelling it Umsagata on Google, but it is the same place.
    1. Health worker like us or crazy like us.
    2. I meant he is educated like you. He is your type.
    3. Please somebody hurry and give her some water before she demolishes the hut.

    • Nitricc

      Why do you choose the nick Fanti Ghana and what does it mean?
      I am asking this from the start I am sensing something real about you.
      May be there is hope.

      • Fanti Ghana

        Hello Nitricc,

        Why Fanti Ghana?
        I wish there was a good story worth telling behind it. I am
        a small time Pan-Africanist want to be, so, I was surfing the web once looking
        for an old West African history that may interest me, and I found this one about
        small but warrior tribe called Fanti (Fante) on the coasts of modern Ghana.
        That tribe used to give the Portuguese and later the Dutch real hard time.
        Immediately after I read that, I followed a couple of promising hyper links and
        I ended up on an Ethiopian news site.

        The comments on that site were so hideous, after years of
        self discipline I decided to respond to one of them. However, after noting how
        childish most of the commentators seemed I didn’t want to give out my real name, so,
        I almost named myself “fanti from the warrior tribe of ghana.” At the
        time I never thought I was going to use it ever again, but alas! I kept using
        it to be consistent. In some twisted sort of way I think I did you all a favor
        by shortening it to Fanti Ghana!

    • Mahmud Saleh

      Haw Fanti Ghana: Thank you. People like you remind us we have friends we can make business with once the dust settles.

    • dawit

      Dear Fanti Ghana
      I am also conflicted notion about your stand on Eritrea. When I read your Panafricanist
      stand and reading your long story it give me some encouragement and hope, but then when
      you put your Ethiopian hat I am disappointed or confused lack of a better word. You wrote few days ago in this Awate website in response to Nitricc
      “Eritrea has been the stepping stone of Ethiopia’s enemies throughout history. That risk was
      compounded when the two countries severed their friendship. So, Ethiopia needs
      tangible reassurance from Eritrea if we are to have a peaceful co-existence”.
      Fanti Ghana, can you back your assertion with historical fact that ‘Eritrea’ as the stepping
      stone of Ethiopia’s enemies”! How do you reconcile the two, your Pan-Africanist stand with your Pan-Ethiopianist stand vis-à-vis Eritrea?
      Thank you

      • Fanti Ghana

        dawit, I am glad you asked.
        The quote you mentioned may make more sense if you include the context. I was trying to show why Ethiopia is insisting on talks before demarcation, at least, to the best of my understanding. As to giving you examples of enemies who staged attack on Ethiopia via Eritrea would Italy or Egypt suffice? But if you thought that I was implying the current Eritrea is inviting our enemies, no, that is not what I meant. However, I was trying to explain that Ethiopia may be keeping that possibility in mind. Primarily due to Ethiopian armed opposition’s presence inside Eritrea as we speak.

        My stand on Eritrea:
        I support Eritrean struggle for independence as my personal belief first and per TPLF’s directive second.
        Would I like to see Eritrea/Ethiopia reunification someday? YES! What kind of Ethiopian wouldn’t want that?

        Having said that, however, my thoughts revolve around the following themes:
        With the current Ethiopian constitution regarding federalism in mind, I think it is safe to entertain the idea of Eritrean federation with Ethiopia. By the way, the current subject and my familiarity happened to be with Eritrea, but I would suggest the same for Djibouti also. Not because Eritrea won’t make it on its own, but because it believes that we could be greater together. If somehow this becomes practical, and keeping Eritrea’s extended history vis-à-vis Ethiopia I would advocate for an amendment to Ethiopian constitution allowing Eritrea to have its own provisionary defense force (financed from state budget of course) until Eritrea discards it on its discretion. I know it is too early to talk about these things, but I am just thinking loud, so to speak.

        I reject reunification under duress. It is bad for both countries.
        It is fine if Ethiopia tries to cajole Eritrea a little here and there, but reunification has to be initiated by Eritreans alone. Until that miraculous day comes however Ethiopians must accept Eritrea’s decision and behave as a good brother/sister/neighbor would.

        Meanwhile:
        Let’s give our positive sides a chance, strive for a good neighborliness.
        Badme: I blame both governments for their silly stubbornness (more on this some other time).

        In short, ask yourself the following question and you will find me somewhere in the answer.
        My friend Fanti Loves his country Ethiopia, and he would like to see Eritrea and Ethiopia unified someday. He also seems to care about my country Eritrea too. How should I advise him to behave so that he doesn’t have to choose one over the other? Now, go.

        • dawit

          Brother Fanti
          Ghana; I am glad you responded for a while when you did not respond, I thought
          you may have ignore my question. From my experience on debates on cyber space, people
          simply ignore your question and move to some sexy topic of the moment. It is
          hard to keep pace with proliferation of topics by the speed of the cyber speed.
          I am glad you put the context of the statement I quoted. When I first read that
          statement I was trying to respond immediately and I was composing a very harsh
          response, but somehow I was distracted and left it aside. I am glad that happened,
          because I had a chance to read your story.

          Back to the
          history, you claimed that there were two cases that you sited. Before we talk
          about legend, let us get have a clear definition of the the names ‘ethiopia’
          and ‘eritrea’. Without going into legend where was Ethiopia before the arrival
          of the European colonizers? If one talk about the Biblical Ethiopia, that
          include modern Eritrea, part of Sudan and part of present Ethiopia and even
          Yemen. It was the land south of Egypt. What was the name of modern Ethiopia?
          Most ancient maps, there is Abyssinia, which may include part of Eritrean highlands
          of Tigrai, and the Amara region. Therefore, the Biblical ‘Ethiopia’ and modern ‘Ethiopia’
          that started shaping with Thwedros and cosolidated by Yohanis, Menelik and
          Haile Selassie are two different entities. When Egypt invaded the ‘Midre Bahri’
          region of costal land of Red Sea, I don’t consider it invaded Ethiopia or
          Eritrea because there was no ‘Eritrea’ before the colonization of ‘Eritrea’,
          and modern Ethiopia was an instrument on that process, so one cannot blame ‘Eritrea’
          as the ‘stepping stone’ for the Italians to invade them by Italy when Ethiopians
          paved the stones. The colonized people of Eritrea, who were struggling to free
          themselves from Italian oppression, were stabbed behind if there was any contribution
          for their struggle from their southern neighbors. If one want to label Eritrea
          as ‘a stepping stone’, it has been for the liberation of Ethiopia, and their
          history showed in Aduwa, the liberation of Ethiopia during Italian occupation
          and recently liberation of ‘Ethiopia’ from Haile Selassie and Derg, both of
          them supported by outside forces. Finally to come to your context, it is wrong
          to hold the border as hostage to bring lasting peace in the region. If TPLF was
          born and sheltered in Eritrea, there will always be another TPLF that will be
          born and protected in Eritrea, as long as there is oppression in Ethiopia,
          regardless the identity of the oppressor local or foreign. Finally for people
          like you, who want a genuine unification between people, have to work to help
          remove obstacles and not create or fabricate reasons to continue the stumbling stone to remain on the way. You should stand for Ethiopia to remove itself from the occupied Eritrean territory without any preconditions. For negotiation there is a need some kind of trust on both sides, and right now there is no trust on the Eritrean side that the other part is honest to establish peace but looking to
          extend its aggression by strangling them. Ethiopia’s activities in isolating
          Eritrea and bringing UN Sanctions cannot be considered as search for peace.

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello dawit,
            I would never ignore your responses unless we both agree that the point has been exhausted. dawit, I was extremely busy yesterday. Summers are notorious for their endless graduation celebrations. Also I think you are in the East Coast. When I saw your response this morning it was already there for 4 hours or more. I was just getting up from bed.

            Now I see clearly from which angle you are seeing my statement of “Ethiopian envasion via Eritrea.” That part of that region’s history is such a wide subject we may have to address it piecemeal separately someday. But to stay within the subject for now let me be clear about the spirit of my statement and what I am trying to refer to as the physical location of where Ethiopia’s enemies staged their attacks from. I simply called it Eritrea for clarity because there is no other collective name to give it to historically or otherwise. Italy came via Massawa, Egypt/Ottoman came via Kesela to Keren and Later GindaE to near Adwa the intention being to control the source of the Nile.

            “… Meantime, reports reached the Ethiopians that the Gallabat garrison had been reinforced by the Egyptians, and had crossed the frontier into Ethiopian territory en-route to Gondar… It consisted of about 2,000 men, and would pass through Agordat and via the Mereb, near to Adowa. This force was ambushed, and Munzinger and nearly all his followers were killed on November 7th by Danakil tribesmen. There were practically no survivors reported.”
            http://www.geocities.com/~dagmawi/History/Ethiopia-Egypt-War.html

            I am thinking that it may not be necessary to go too far with this, because I hope you can see what my opinion was about somewhat better. If you put aside where is/was Ethiopia/Eritrea then and now for a moment, you can see that I was referring to the geopolitical location of present day Eritrea as a physical location through which Ethiopia (or let’s say Tigray if you will) was being attacked. If still hazy, it can only be my lack of better articulation, but I hope you got the gist of it.

            “…it is wrong to hold the border as hostage to bring lasting peace in the region.”
            Sit down dawit. I agree!

            I strongly believe that Ethiopia should go ahead with the demarcation per Algiers agreement. It was wrong to have delayed it this far. Way too long. It is not worth a fraction of the social chaos it is causing.

            SAAY,
            You cannot start sentences with “no TPLF/EPRDF will admit…” any longer.
            Selam.

          • dawit

            My stand on Eritrea: I support Eritrean struggle for independence as my
            personal belief first and per TPLF’s directive second. Would I like to see
            Eritrea/Ethiopia reunification someday? YES! What kind of Ethiopian wouldn’t
            want that? I reject reunification under duress. It is bad for both countries. Let’s
            give our positive sides a chance, strive for a good neighborliness. My friend
            Fanti Loves his country Ethiopia and he would like to see Eritrea and Ethiopia
            unified someday. He also seems to care about my country Eritrea too.” How
            should I advise him to behave so that he doesn’t have to choose one over the
            other?

            My Friend I just copied some direct quote from your two responses. You can
            replace the word Eritrea by Ethiopia and Ethiopia by Eritrea and Fanti by
            dawit, you have my stand. In my previous reply I spent talking about the
            region, just to show that there is no a fundamental difference in the basic
            belief of the people of the region. The invasion of Eritrea is an invasion of
            Ethiopia, and the colonization of Eritrea is the colonization of Ethiopia. But of
            course those who wanted to get advantage of our natural resources be it the source
            of the Nile or the Red Sea have devised various tricks that have kept us
            fighting over trivial issues while they take advantage of our resources. Unfortunately they always find leaders who
            fall to their trick of divide and rule, just to sit on power, and the leaders
            extend that divide rule to the rest of the people. Now in spite of our rich
            natural resources and history of several millenniums we are at the tail of the
            world rapped in ignorance and even unable to feed ourselves, many of us trapped
            in refugee camps, live in exile as slaves. We have AU HQ in Addis and yet we
            cannot unit Tigrai and Eritrea or Ogaden and Oromia or Dankalia and Amara etc.
            If Eritrea is weak Ethioipia is weak and the reverse is true. May 24, 1991 was
            a new day for the region, a new beginning that usher a new promise for
            centuries backwardness. Ethiopia and Eritrea started on the right feet, signed
            cooperation agreements in economic and defense of the region. Well that must
            not have been welcomed move, then in mere five years we went back to our dirty
            history of killing each other, and others were accumulated their bank account
            for selling us the arms we used to kill each other. You said you said you blame
            both leaders, for that, I do too. But I blame more Ethiopia than Eritrea, because
            Ethiopia had the power to wage war or look for peace. But Ethiopia failed to realize
            that because some group or segment of who lost the war in Eritrea wanted revenge
            and came with all types of lies that drove the two sides into war. It was
            simple power struggle. My friend Fanti, I could keep on writing a book on this
            topic but let me stop here and try to answer your question “How should I advise
            him to behave so that he doesn’t have to choose one over the other?

            Before I answer the big question, let me tell you few things about my
            background. I was born in Ethiopia from Eritrean parents. My father was drafted
            by Italians when he was 19 year old, and started his service serving Italians
            in the war against Ethiopia; he defected from the Italian army with his arm and
            joined the Ethiopian resistance force. After fighting for five years, Ethiopia
            was liberated. He wanted to return to Eritrea, but the British reversed their
            promise to the Eritrean dream for independence. He decided to continue his
            fight against the new occupiers and he was hopping Ethiopia would stand on his
            side in liberating his native Eritrea. Alas. Haile Sellasie was selfish, he
            wanted Eritrea for himself, and sabotaged Eritrean dream for Independence. One
            of his arguments was that “Eritrea was a stepping stone for Ethiopian aggressors’’
            in addition to his need for an outlet to the Red Sea that was taken by Italians
            by force and not sold my Menelik!. On the referendum on Federation my father rejected
            the idea, and stood for Eritrean independence. Haile Sellasie didn’t like his
            stand, he threw him in prison, when I was 2 month baby. I saw my father for the
            first time in jail behind iron bars. That is my first memory in my life. Even though
            my father fought for Ethiopian independence, he believed that the two
            countries need to be separate and each cleans their houses and live as good neighbors. Uniting two dirty
            houses will result a big dirty house. He died on that belief and I stand on
            that. Ethiopia is my country and Eritrea is also my country. Before I left
            Ethiopia, I witness the famine in Wollo and Tigrai when thousands perish as
            part of my job. Therefore my friend no one can think he or she can think for
            Ethiopia’s welfare more than I do.

            “How should I advise him to behave so that he doesn’t have to choose one
            over the other? My friend Fanti, you will not lose any one of them as long as
            you choose the Truth. All wars start with lies, and supporting the lie will not
            end the war. TPLF stand for Eritrean Independence was the right thing to follow
            in 1970’s 80’s and May 24, in 1991. EPRDF/TPLF gained Ethiopia, without losing
            Independent Eritrea. Before 1991, I was a state less and in May 1991, I got 2
            countries and when Bademe Border in 1998, I lost my two countries! A true
            Ethiopian should stand on the side of Eritrea same as before. Ethiopians should
            stand at the forefront demanding the lifting of war declared by the Ethiopian
            Federal Parliament, for the demarcation of the border without any condition,
            fight for the lifting the unfair UN sanctions Eritrea. If Eritrea is weak,
            Ethiopia is weak and if Eritrea is strong Ethiopia is strong, and we can defend
            our resources, Nile or Red Sea and the resources that we spending on war, we
            can use to develop our mineral, agricultural and water resources to benefit our
            people. Now my friend Fanti I am reversing you question to a friend who have
            lost his Ethiopia and Eritrea “How should I advise him to behave so that he
            doesn’t have to choose one over the other but gain both?

            Now your move!

          • Fanti Ghana

            Brother dawit, thank you so much for this heartfelt sharing. I feel privileged.
            I will “move” when I get to work in the morning. Selam.

          • Rahwa T

            Selam Fanti Ghana,

            Sure dawit has presented an interesting story and his positive view regarding the two nations. His father was brave enough to raise an arm against the colonizers of his beloved nation-Eritrea. But from what he wrote, my understanding is that his father was fighting the Italians aiming for the independence of Eritrea, and not for Ethiopia as he is claiming. His father was fighting along with Ethiopians just to remove the common enemy. It is sad that his father was arrested by the emperor, but I don’t he was fighting for the independence of Ethiopia. I think there is a mixing of facts and emotions. I couldn’t understand the logic that someone was fighting along with me and ended up claiming that he was fighting for me while his real aim was getting rid of his enemy from his house with a combined force of both of us.

          • dawit

            Selam Rahwa T,
            Sorry you have difficulty of following my story, I could have written is better in Amharic than in English. Since I wrote that story, I am the one who can clarify the “mixing of facts and emotions”. I will try to clarify that after I finish my dialog with Fanti Ghana!. I promised to do that if you stay around. But regardless of the difficulty you have with the logic, my father fought for Ethiopian and Eritrean Independence!
            dawit

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello Rahwa,
            You made me read that story again. Thank you!
            Let me describe how I understood that section, and you or dawit can correct me if I missed it.
            Italy is in Eritrea – his dad wants to get rid of it.
            Italy invades Ethiopia also – Ethiopia starts a fight to get rid of it.
            His dad sees the opportunity, and joins Ethiopian forces to get rid of Italy from Ethiopia
            and then, God willing, from Eritrea too, which is dad’s ultimate goal per both of you.

            You are saying that since his father’s ultimate goal was to get rid of Italy from Eritrea; he
            cannot claim as having fought for Ethiopian independence.
            Assuming I understood both of you correctly it sounds like a matter of wording, but the points sound similar.

            If I “help” you clean your house, have I earned the right to claim “I cleaned your house?”
            But, you say, because you wanted me to help you clean your house too.
            True, but, still, does that negate my having cleaned your house?

          • dawit

            Dear Rahwa,

            as promised I am writing to further clarify my father’s story. My father did not leave
            Eritrea to fight for Ethiopian independence, but he was forcefully drafted to
            fight for Italians which was not his choice. As a young person growing in
            Eritrea of the 1930’s his true desire was to stay in his village, avoid the
            Italian colonial administration, be a farmer and have family. Think of him as
            the hundreds of thousands who were sent to fight in Eritrea, who were dragged
            to a war that they did not believed in or don’t even know where Eritrea existed.

            The Italian Askaris once they arrive in Ethiopia they have to make conscious decision whether they had to kill their Ethiopian kin’s or
            defect and join the Ethiopian resistance forces and kill Italians, which of
            course a common enemy, and knew first hand of Italian colonization meant. He
            was not fighting Italians in Ethiopia to liberate Eritrea. There was no war of
            liberation in Eritrea. Eritrea was wrapped as Italian colony, curtsey of
            Menelik II in 1889. The fate of Eritrea was sealed and done; it was the fate of
            Ethiopia which was in the air the unfinished business of the Battle of Aduwa.
            So my father decided to die for Ethiopian cause rather than enjoy his privileges
            as Italian soldier. I am not going to go with you where he fought and what he
            did in that war of liberating Ethiopia. After the war the Emperor returned to
            Ethiopia, he asked the Eritreans to stay behind and help build Ethiopia. Many
            joined the various departments of his administration, at that time there were
            hardly any educated Ethiopians left in the country, most were killed and others
            left the country. My father joined the administration and had a good position.
            My father along with few other Eritreans started to organize themselves and
            formed ‘Mehaber Fikre Hager’ an association to seek independence for Eritrea,
            which was under British Military Administration. They had contacts in Eritrea to demand independence
            for Eritrea. My father also had first hand information how Haile Selassie
            government was corrupted, when he took all the buildings and factories left
            behind by Italians, divided it among his children, which he thought was
            property of the nation and not personal property who were not there to fight
            the Italians. After forming the organization, Haile Selassie started his own
            plan of uniting Eritrea with Ethiopia. So Ethiopian security infiltrated the ‘Mehaber
            Fikre Hager’ and altered the organization aim from independence to ‘Andenet
            organization by purging those who were for independence. Finally the Eritrean
            organization was altered for Eritrean and Ethiopian union’ Haile Selassie
            recruited many Eritreans in Ethiopia to travel to Eritrea armed with money to
            bribe and agitate people there to vote for unity. My father was asked by the King
            to do that, but he refused. Meanwhile
            the Eritreans in Addis Ababa were organized to stage demonstrations at Embassies
            of Great Britain, USA, France and USSR to demand their support for Eritrean and
            Ethiopia union. The demonstrators were gathered at St. Giorgis Church, to march
            at the various Embassies. Before the march there were speeches made to the
            crowed by various officers of the organization. As a founding member of the
            original ‘Maheber Fikre Hager’ my father also made a speech, and on his speech,
            he asked the crowed whose statue was outside the church at Menelik Square.? The
            crowed replied ‘Dagmawi Menelik”. My father continued his speech. He said to the crowed we Eritreans used to say Menelik sold us
            to Italy, and now we are going to demonstrate to sell ourselves. That is wrong;
            we need to ask for our independence which was our original aim of our
            organization. It was also then he talked about the two dirty houses parables.
            After the speech he left to his home instead of joining the demonstration. Soon
            after he was arrested and Ethiopian Government fabricated a tramp charges and released
            after three years, after the Eritrea was federated with Ethiopia. He was banned
            from government employment in the country, so he struggled to raise his
            children in one of the poorest neighborhoods in Addis. Growing up many of my friends
            ended joining the army and perished in Eritrea, because their alternatives were
            work as daily laborers or join the army. Most of them did not finish elementary
            education. I was fortunate due to my parent’s sacrifices I had education
            graduating from university,the only person in the whole neighborhood! In our household the Ethiopian New Year and the Aduwa Day celebration were a mourning days. My father always prayed to God, not to take him before he saw the down fall of Haile Selassies government, and
            God fulfilled his prayer. He referred Haile Selassie’s government always as ‘Menges
            Haram’ (Government of Evil). He sacrificed a son for Eritrean Independence. He
            never doubted his dream for Eritrean Independence, but never saw it, that is
            one thing I always regret, I wish he stayed a little longer to May 24, 1991.

            Now Rahwa, you can believe the story or not, but that is the
            story, my father believed he fought for Ethiopian freedom, and I believe it,
            weather you believe it or not, it does not matter, he did it for what he
            believed right at that moment and he was not alone. Several Eritreans did it;
            they didn’t die for something in return.

            I found this song hilarious, but the message is clear for those
            poor people who are hunted for a war they had no idea, or believe. The elite
            fabricate wars and support it based on lies and poor people pays the price.

            Tium leyti!

            http://player.mashpedia.com/player.php?q=5sKtwPcCubE&lang=

          • Fanti Ghana

            First of all, let me thank Mahmud and Nitricc for leading me to say the things I said which got
            your attention so that we can have this wonderful conversation.
            I thank you very much for all the heartfelt truths in this response.

            You made my day yesterday!
            “If Eritrea is weak Ethiopia is weak and the reverse is true.”
            You have no idea how many times I must have said that very sentence to friends and family.
            Now, at the risk of becoming “the historian” at awate.com let me share with you how I started to
            believe on the struggle for Eritrean independence way ahead of my pears.

            I was extremely hyper active as a child and teen (especially from 8 – 15 years old). I started school in the second grade, because I knew everything there was to know in the first grade by forcing my older brother to explain what he was doing. So, my real age has always been 1 minus what the papers say. When I was 10 or 11, I was gone from home for a week, and no one
            in my family went looking for me! Although I was loved and spoiled at home, my family
            had stopped worrying about me long before that. When I Just turned 14, a friend
            and I were renting bicycles in Bati during the 2 1/2 months winter break from
            school. A few months later and almost half way into my school year, I was in
            jail in Mekele prison for stealing a coat from a family friend who pissed me
            off big time. I was sentenced to 3 months jail! Don’t feel sorry dawit. That was the most
            honorable deed I had ever done up to that point. I would have been happy coming
            out of that jail even after 3 years. The story I want to tell you is about what
            happened in that jail, but I wanted you to know why I went to jail in the first
            place.

            The moment I got in that jail I noticed a man that looked “mhur” unlike most of the
            prisoners who were mostly shefatu, farmers who took the law into their own hands,
            and lots of my colleagues, thieves. So, I went toward him to strike conversation,
            and sure enough he was very friendly and gentle Gondere who spoke Amharic only.
            I was fluent in both Tigrigna and Amharic, because I grew up around Tigray-Wollo border where both languages are spoken almost equally.

            I lost his name long time ago before I fully understood his effect on my life,
            but I keep thinking of him as Mr. Belayneh. I think his name included –neh. He was
            a soldier. Mr. Belayneh was stationed in Eritrea and he had many sorties
            fighting ELF. He was in jail on a sentence of life in prison for killing
            another soldier who killed a civilian “because the order was to kill anything
            that moves.” Anything that moves; even if it is a child or a goat that is. After
            3 months of life altering conversation with him, his last statement he wanted
            me to remember was to always ask myself that “if we believe that they are
            Ethiopians why are we killing them? If we don’t believe that they are
            Ethiopians what are we fighting them about?” I have been repeating these
            questions to myself ever since. I spared you the details of the story that lead
            to his killing of another soldier, but he became my hero forever.

            After Mr. Belayneh told me about all the atrocities that were taking place in Eritrea, I made up my mind to become a Jebha the moment I am out of jail. Think about that dawit. This was a time when
            my friends were still playing “Police ena Shifta,” and here I am ploting to become
            Jebha and kill as many “police” as I can. At the time the way I understood what
            Jebha was was that something you become not something you join. So, my grand plan
            was to go to Raya where I knew every stone and tree of the forest around my
            hometown, buy a gun, become Jebha, and start killing police and hide. Had that
            plan succeeded I would have demanded TPLF call itself Salsay Woyane instead of
            Dagmay Woyane, because this took place a year and few months before TPLF was
            born.
            However, back to reality, my father pleaded with the school to let me continue with that
            year’s school, and what do you know, I passed that miserable class! That winter,
            something lead to something else and I was in Asmara visiting my favorite
            uncle. I had learned about the idea of Jebha indirectly in Asmara, so,
            the plan to go to Raya and buy a gun had been abandoned. A few months later, age
            15, I was in Aligder picking cotton! Age 16, TPLF is born, and I became A
            member of the “Tigrean Youth Association of Khartoum.” Yes, already in the
            Sudan. As you said somewhere above I would have to write a book about how a Lowland-Eritrean
            saved my life twice, once between Akordet and Barentu when ELF stopped our bus,
            and the next day in Teseney in my hilarious attempt to humiliate the police. He
            managed to carefully convince me to go to Aligder pick cotton for a year or two instead.

            I wrote, rewrote, and finally I ruined this story to make it as short as
            possible, but the moral of the story is that here I was a Jebha wanabe Tigrean
            whose number one hero is an Amhara Soldier who is in jail for life for avenging
            an Eritrean civilian! So, you see, every time someone says something nasty
            about Tigrean, Eritrean, or Amhara, I am in pain. Not only for the personal
            nature of it all but also for the carelessness I notice when people
            throw words Happy-Go-Lucky like there is no tomorrow.

            What to do:
            Although my issue is a peanut compared to yours, there is similarity in its effect on
            our lives. When you think about it carefully though, it is actually a blessing. Our background helps us to look for and cling to what is just regardless of to whom or by whom!

            There are those who work hard to insure the friction between
            people to continue. It could be for political, financial, personal reasons, or
            just simple backwardness, but they do exist. However, after realizing how
            complex it was to deal with at random, I made up my own guidelines.

            Whenever I see someone being unfair against anyone (typically, either against Amhara, Eritrean, or Tigrean), I try to analyze their statement within the following scope first:

            1. They may or may not be who they claim to be, but they want hatefulness to start or
            continue.
            2. They are uninformed, and simply following those they think are their trusted sources
            of information.
            3. What is the best way to respond to them or to counter argue so that they don’t remain in the dark?
            4. If I am still too angry to deal with it rationally, I try to remember what I call “my sanity check poles”

            a) If the perpetuator is or pretending to be Amhara, before I respond, I think of the
            woman who was extremely kind to me and my friend in Wuchale when I was 13.
            b) If the perpetuator is someone pretending to be an Eritrean, I think of the Eritrean
            who saved my life in Teseney when I was 15.
            c) If the perpetuator is someone pretending to be Tigrean, I ask myself whether that
            person represents how I feel and what I think about whoever is being attacked
            and I try to address it accordingly.
            d) If my source of discomfort happens to be an issue between an Amhara and an
            Eritrean, I try to think of them as one being my kin on my father side and the
            other on my mother side. Then I try to take the responsibility of a peacemaker
            (this is harder to do than it sounds; before you know it you are defending one
            and attacking the other, defying the whole point.)

            I found these methods to work for me thus far.
            I am so glad to know you dawit!

          • saay7

            Selamat Fanti:

            Nitricc the Acid has requested of awate a special page called “Hdmoy” where he can just write his monologue. Every time we pull his application from the in-box, he ruins it all by violating most of our posting guidelines, picking fights, and refusing to address people he is corresponding with, with simple salutation such as “Dear…” or “Selam….” So, he is benched (where he can study baseball rules.)

            I think you are a great story-teller and your stories always have a deep meaning–of peace, love, forgiveness. They tell the story of the human condition. Some people are not meant for polemic writing, and they should count their blessings: they are gifted with the ability to help us push pause on our arguments and focus us on the Big Picture. I once read that the thing that upsets God the most is when human beings waste a talent he gave them; (I either wrote it or read it.) You are a peace-maker, bigger than squabbles. So I recommend you write your pieces in short-story formats and present them to our front page.

            Very impressed,

            saay

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello SAAY,
            I am honored and humbled Brother Saay.

            May God bless the American English teacher!
            50 points for showing up everyday.
            50 points for doing my homework, the effort is what counts, they say.
            Another 50 for raising my hand in class often! Participation they call it.

            My grade of ‘C’ has always been guaranteed!
            And the coward that I am, I have never had a better grade than
            “C” in my English classes ever. That said, I shall try.
            Thank you.

            PS: I shall miss you Nitricc. Please make some progress quickly and come back.

          • dawit

            Thank you my brother Fanti, I really appreciate our dialog. I must admit this was a rare moment that I learned from discussing in in Awate.com. Often I end up misunderstanding them or misunderstood me, never to continue to reach any conclusion. Had I replied to you when I first saw your comment, perhaps we would have been shouting at each other. You see some times my points are sharp, and have no tolerance for people who deliberately distort our history. You may have noticed my comments are on two fronts. I am some one who sit and see both sides of the fence. I think your are like me who has to see both sides of the fence. I am going to dijust the wisdom of life you sent me will work as a peace maker. and I hope we can dialogue more.I am also glad to know you Fanti.Take care

    • Rahwa T

      Dear Fanti,Ghana,
      It is superb story with lots of lessons to take. It should have been posted as a full fledged article on itself.
      Thanks for sharing

  • Saba

    Dear Awatistas,
    One line of a speech will not wash IA’s crimes but if he allows a new constitution, lets use the opportunity to build a democracy with a rule of law that will allow us to prosecute him. Well things will be quicker if this cyber opposition will quit their TPLF dependence and focus on eritrean solution for eritrean problems.

    • Nitricc

      Saba you sound one of the Tigryan elites. What crime had PIA committed ?
      If a man does what he thinks right thing to do, then should equate to crime.
      On the other thread you said you don’t agree with me because I stand with the governing of Eritrea. Well where do you stand. I am hoping you won’t say the opposition and you know I am going yo say. Who?

      • Saba

        Nitricc, you seem ready to defend him all the way to the court. Your calling of me a TPLF elite is like Haile TG calling me of PFDJ supporter. Unfortunately we do not have a real opposition, it is part of a healthy democracy. We have cyber opposition, in which some want democracy with TPLF help at the cost of the nation defending while other members just want power. I want democracy while defending my country. Is that impossible? Anyway which cyber opposition where you thinking i belong to?

    • Amanuel

      Tafla
      Do you trust the man who lives in Venus which has 243 hours a day. If you remember the National Assembly appointed a Party Formation law drafting commission lead by Romodan Mohammed Nur in 2002, but we have not heard about it again. If you remind him again he would tell you that they are working on it.
      I have personal experience of this. I was one of the students who were ordered to suspend their study for 6 months by him in 1993 (IA sent a letter to Dr Woldeab that all Tegadelti joined the university should suspend their study for 6 months and report to the ministry of defence and after 6 months he personally will sort this issue out, promising that some will be sent abroad to study, some demobilise and continue their study the rest will continue under the government guidance). After 6 months we tried to remind him no answer, a year later the same. At the end of 1996 I gave up and left the country. Guess what! one morning he woke up and sent a letter that allowing the suspended tegadelti to resume their study in 2001. He doesn’t use the same calendar as the rest of us. He uses the one from Venus which has 243 hour day.

    • Semere Andom

      Sabi:
      Your sarcasm is not that sublte,what does democracy and “cyber opposition”, TPLF have to do with DIA’s game of Russian Reroute with the future of your sisters. This another proof that DIA buoyed by the support of your likes buying time to create his dynasty of dictatorship. On this “Independence Day” let me tell you that we are still in bondage and Eritreans have voted openly without requiring a secret ballot that they are better off under Ethiopians by fleeing your Eritrea and taking refuge in TPLF’s Ethiopia.

      The quandary of Eritreans did not change for better after the Amhara speaking regime was replaced by the a regime who speaks 9 different languages and if you are putting your “zuria” and making coffee to celebrate this new drafting you are a transcendent supporter of this regime, say it baby!

      • Saba

        Semiruley,
        I am used to be called PFDJ supporter, cyber opposition supporter, TPLF elite depending on who is speaking. Now you telling me i am being sarcastic? “Beal hadish opposition ab menghedi yiqawem”.You guys enabled IA where he is today. When civilian, “gebar”, “abeyti adi”, farmers, university students were questioning the regime, your response was “kulu dihiri hager iyu”, “zeyhagherawian”, “EPLF experiance is better than your academic experience, Temokuro alena”, “ab bereka we have sacrificed 100%, can you contribute your country” etc etc. Then switch when it becomes personal. I can see the steps of biological transformation or evolution from Nitricc to Semiruley. Well Nitricc seems stuck where he was while you moved to the opposite direction in a wrong way up to defending TPLF crimes. You still you have to work with those civilians, which it means to forget your “I heart TPLF” thoughts. You can not figure it out the relationship between the longevity of PFDJ/IA and the TPLF dependence of the cyber opposition? What do you think? Is it zero, negative or positive?

        • Semere Andom

          Sabu:
          I am enjoying the new endearment of Semiruley, entay semirulki:-)
          I am not sure if you are addressing me by the pile of the kulu dihiri ager iyu alegation, there another semiureley here you know

          Sem

  • Mahmud Saleh

    Dear Awetistas: (It starts at 11:51 minutes)

    “ ኣብ መቓን ናይ ሃገራዊ ህንጸት ዕማማትና፡ ፖለቲካዊ ህንጸት ከም መብጽሒ ኣገዳሲ እጃም ስለዘለዎ፣ ምስ ናይቲ ጉዕዞና
    ንምስንኻል ክካየድ ዝጸንሐን ዘሎን ተጻባኢ ግዳማዊ ሓንካሪ ህቀናታት ብዙሕ ተማሂርናን ተመኲርናን ስለዘለና፣ ንመጻኢ መንግስታዊ
    ስርዓት መርሓ ፖለቲካዊ ጎደና ዝቅይስ ቅዋም ምንዳፍ ክጅምር ምዃኑ ኣብዚ ኣጋጣሚ’ዚ ክሕብር እፈቱ።”

    “Aware that building a political capacity has an important role in our formula/schemes of national development endeavors; (understanding) that we have learned and experienced a lot regarding
    hostile external attempts that have been undergoing to falter/flounder our national journey; I want to announce, on this occasion, that drafting of a constitution that gauges the guidance (road map) of future political system will begin.”

    ***This is my preliminary translation. If translating PIA speech in to common Tigrigna is a task; then
    translating it in to English will be a pain in the (–).

    Note: as I post this, I also see tafla has posted his translation.

    • Amanuel

      Hi Mahmud
      Here is the official translation from Shabait.com

      “Within the framework of our tasks of nation building, the political infrastructure assumes a vital role as a vehicle to advance our overall objectives. We have gleaned important lessons and experiences from the hostile external schemes aimed at derailing our nation-building endeavours and processes. I would thus like to announce on this occasion that a constitution drafting process will be launched in order to chart out the political road map for the future governmental structure.”

      • Mahmud Saleh

        Haw Amanuel:
        Thank you. Non Tigrigna readers could have a wider range of context.

  • tafla

    excerpt from PIA’s speech on the occasion of Eritrea’s 23rd anniversary, where he speak about the drafting of a constitution.

    “Ladies and Gentlemen,
    Within the framework of our tasks of nation building, the political infrastructure assumes a vital role as a vehicle to advance our overall objectives. We have gleaned important lessons and experiences from the hostile external schemes aimed at derailing our nation-building endeavours and processes. I would thus like to announce on this occasion that a constitution drafting process will be launched in order to chart out the political road map for the future governmental structure.

    In conclusion, I would like to express my deep appreciation for the Eritrean people who made independence a reality through relentless struggle, sacrifice, and by overcoming all hurdles; to the people of Eritrea who are now engaged in the nation-building process day and night in a spirit of patriotic devotion to the homeland; including mothers who are immersed in hard developmental work while carrying their infants on their backs,; and to the members of the Defense Forces. May we enjoy a good rainy season!

    Glory to our Martyrs!
    Victory to the Masses!

    24 May 2014”

    http://shabait.com/news/local-news/17116-president-isaias-afewerkis-speech-on-the-occasion-of-the-23rd-independence-day-celebrations

  • Ermias

    Dear God*#,

    My name is Eritrea. I was conceived in 1889 in the town of Wuchale by the Italians and King Menelik II of Shewa. My other parent (or conceiving party) Ethiopia gave me up to the Italians and the Italians raised me with carrots and sticks but more sticks than carrots. They took a lot of my guts away and when I had children, they treated my children like slaves and they wouldn’t even let them walk in the places they built with their sweat and blood as in Campo Citato. The story is very long but you can find some of it here on awate.com. When the Italians were badly defeated by the British in Keren, they were routed to Asmara and then the British took me for adoption. They didn’t care for me all too much and they were shopping for someone to re-adopt me. In fact, they wanted to split me in two halves, one half to the Ethiopians and the other half to the Sudanese because they thought I was too feeble and malnutritioned to stand on my two feet. Ethiopia was fighting very hard to gain back my custody. She was given partial custody in 1952 with unlimited visitation rights. But Ethiopia started abusing me, specially my lower half and my children were getting increasingly desperate for freedom and so they started fighting Ethiopia. They did this for thirty years and then here I go, I was RE-BORN in 1991. Isaias Afwerki was deemed my new father but oh boy – what an abusive son of a b**tch he is. He has tormented me for 23 years after 1991. He has utter contempt towards my children and he is routing them by the tens of thousands.

    Dear God, given my short story above (historians can tell it much better), please do me one favor. Please kill IA for me with no bloodshed on my children. He is a cancer to me and his enablers are just as bad. Today I am 23 years old and they are doing this fake parties for me all over the place but I am weeping deep down. I am very sorrowful because I haven’t been able to feed my children because of this abusive man, should I call him stepfather.

    I pray to you to make my 24th birthday much more joyful and where I can hug all my children all over the world, not only the ones who like IA.

    *I was going to add Allah just to be politically correct but I remembered SGJ reprimanding someone that God and Allah are the same thing.

    #The above is not necessarily entirely how I feel about the history but that is the sentiment of most Eritreans (I think) and so I put myself in a typical Eritrean’s shoes.

    • dawit

      “return to sender” “address unknown”. ABAJIGO

      • Ermias

        Very good dawitom, that was hilarious.

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Hi Ermi,

      A short history : The cry of Eritrea and its bitterness on its custodians. Well said.

      • Ermias

        Thank you Emma. This is the most confusing day of the year to me and I woke up and wrote that whole plea in a very few minutes period of time.

    • Kokhob Selam

      You let me cry. God is busy supporting to those who take action and said to you he will support you since you have acknowledged it.

  • Rodab

    News Flash:
    “In this occasion, I would like to announce that a constitution drafting process will be launched” – PIA.

    Constitution drafting? What happens to the existing one? It will be discarded and we will start from scratch?
    Too many questions, but delightful because at least we are talking about something this time.

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Hello Rodab,

      Is this “News Flash” a dream or reality? Where did you get it? How did it fly in the news media? Or is it a way of diverting from this none-sense debate on history we making here? There are many time-sensitive issue we have to deal with. Albeit we have proved that we are not yet serious on our predicament.

      Senay MeAlti,

      Amanuel Hidrat

      • haileTG

        Selamat Aman and Rodab

        Rodab is referring to part of the speech made by IA in connection to the Independence day. It is funny project that they have, now that they suspended I.D. cards for citizens recently and now have decided to draft their own constitution too. Few problems however linger:

        1 – The regime only works with its zealots, whose combined IQ (even if you were to add all) wouldn’t reach the average needed to join NAAR (The North American Association for Retards 🙂

        2 – If HGDEF is meeting in diaspora without announcing its venues in advance, how on earth is it going to openly invite Eritreans to discuss it? We’ll all go 🙂

        3 – One of the reasons could be the UN human rights pressure, but now they can speak to Dejen too, they need to vist Karsheli and all other places.

        4 – I feel sorry for people to have to waste their time to listen to his useless story, so here is a summary:

        “Hsuratn hsurann

        BS followed by BS which involved BS is likely to produce BS. Have a happy BS year till next year’s BS if I am still lucky to hang around to BS. OH the constitution, OK add a bS to that too. Happy BS”

        Cheers

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selamat Hailat, Rodab, Saay,

          Thank you for the info. I can’t wait to go home after work and listen the devilish speech of the man. Till then no comment. Saay, I understand where you want to take us. However the topic is so important and I am glad back to the time-sensitive issue.

          Hawkum,

          Amanuel H.

      • Pappillon

        ኣታ ኣማን ሓወይ ንስኻውን ዶ ሕልሚድዩ ጋህዲ ክትብል ጀሚርካ እዚ ሰብኣይ እዚ ዋላ ተበለ አንተበለ ካብ ሕጂ ንንየው ዋላሓንቲ ትርጉም የብሉን ናብ ፍርዲ ክቐርብ ኣለዎ ንሱ ከየልገሰን ናብ ፍርዲ ከይቀረበን ንቕድሚት ክስጎም ኣይካኣልን እዩ

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Sis Pappi,

          Not that I dream to hear his speech, but I do know that there are many in this forum who admire him and want to listen his speech. One thing that surprise me is, people seem to be angry of him in saying to draft a new constitution. For me sis, whether he draft new document or the 1997 document they will equally serve him well. The 1997 document is tailored for single party. He might change the term to no term limit and the vote to one man vote “yes or no vote”. No good news will come from inside Eritrea until we change our character from being submissive. Courage and commitment are lost from us. We need the renaissance of courage and commitment in our spirit. Keep up your firm position against the PFDJ system.

          Hawki,

          Amanuel Hidrat

          • Saleh Johar

            Amanuel, one thing I know I will never tolerate is this: someone coming to promote the Wedini’s planned constitution.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Salem SGJ,

            What did I promote my friend. What ever you know about me is talking against it. Do you really understand my comment? Why don’t tell to those who are year in year out advocating for it including from the team by the way. I have never promoted to it.

            Amanuel Hidrat

    • saay7

      Selamat Rodab:

      I listened to and re-wound that part of the speech but one of the problems with EPLF/PFDJ prose is that their sentences are a paragraph long. I have a theory and an explanation (and a link of course) for this, but before I jump the gun, I would like to ask Mahmud Saleh (or Rodab or Haile TG) to translate that part of the speech to English so we can debate it. It appears that Isaias has joined the discussions here at awate forum and introduced his own formula for change. (A formula that the Hafash wdbat was given a preview of as can be judged by the choreographed applause: that line, and the acknowledgement of the guests attending, got the loudest applause.)

      The sentence is near the end of the video and begins at the 11:30 mark.

      saay

      http://youtu.be/5Y3eV_zfAeg

      • Rodab

        Hello Sal,
        Your last scenario is likely what the speech was about today. We don’t know yet. He left us with as much vague as possible. For an issue of that importance, and in light this being something he is introducing for the first time, he should have dedicated paragraphs. But now we are left with a single sentence. So it is very hard to understand what exactly he is saying or how serious he is. I will pay attention to the State media news today and see how they handle this ‘bubela’. Do they bring it to the front? Somewhere in the middle, or do they mention it toward the end? Or not at all? That will be very telling. We shall see.
        Regards,

      • dawit

        Selamat Saay,
        A brilliant idea, let us discuss the idea that came from the ‘Horse’s Mouth” ok, ‘Gobye’s Mouth’ and not ‘bela, below’ of YG and company. You forgot ‘zehareme maina’. PIA’s concluding prayer on your list of alternatives 5.
        Respectfully

        • Pappillon

          dawit higdef mendef,

          I listened to the “speech” and all I can say is, the guy is literally sick. I am sure not only he has liver issues, he has COPD as well. And as for the “Constitution” stuff, it is a joke. The butt of all jokes. If anybody is going to take him serious, I say, Isaias precisely knows that the audience including the virtual audiences are trigger happy like a toddler with a candy on sight. Isaias is fully loaded to screw everybody over and over again and I am sure dawit you ain’t an exception either.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Pappillon Habtey , the man knows very will no one is going to trust him but now that things are changing he has no choice except trying it.

          • Pappillon

            ዝኸበርካ ኮኾብ ሰላም ሓወይ

            እቲ ዘሕዝነኒ ነገር እንታይ እዩሲ ኢሳያስ ንኹላህና ማዕረ ክንደይ ከምንኸይድን ዓቕምናን መዚንዎ እዩ. Just read the comments here in this forum about the vague thing that he said about Constitution. People still take him serious and they are “debating” what ever comes out from his mouth. He shouldn’t be an issue at all. He should be removed and face justice. It is too late to even consider what ever he says. Nothing more nothing less.

            Haft’kha.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Don’t worry, the real and serous men and women know already and they are the people. those supporters here and there are the remaining of all that old structure that suffer with their own old historical mistakes and will never stand with him.

            instead look at this http://www.worldbulletin.net/haberler/137176/scores-of-eritrean-refugees-enter-ethiopia-daily-unhcr

          • Nitricc

            Pappi come down and don’t bring that Higdef Mendef shiit again : -)
            This is real. He have no choice he is ruining out of time. He has a legacy to reserve and protect. Call him anything you want but he is not dummy.
            He has always done things on his way terms and this one going to do it as such.
            I was expecting this back for the 20th Independence Day but it Better late than never.
            He had to do it. There is no time.
            So chill and be happy : -)
            Be happy for Eritrea. It is her day.

          • Amanuel

            Nitricc
            I bet he will deny it tomorrow. Dementia is catching-up with him.

          • Peace!

            Dear Amanuel,

            Are you losing hope that now you are hoping Issayas to die of natural cause, and you call yourself an opposition? That low?

          • Amanuel

            Selam Peace
            What do you call starting a constitution drafting process with out mentioning the existing one. Either he is confused or forget he has already one. As I hope you know that Dementia is mostly a disease of old age and its main symptom is memory loss. I am not saying he will be dying.

          • dawit

            Pappilon YG puppy,
            which part of my response to saay gave you such a headache that triggered your barking? PIA speeches are to much to comprehend with your little YG and Dan Conell transplant brain. Don’t worry about PIA Liver, he can get a transplant; remember he is in the organ trade business, poor you with sick brain. Forget PIA speech just enjoy the Independence celebration in Eritrea.

            Awet Nhafash and long live PIA!

          • Ermias

            I am so sad to be co-existing in this world with you and your likes. I wish you guys were just a bad dream – HIGDEF MENDEF wedaitkum timtsae.

          • Peace!

            Don’t despair you have many many years a head of you:)

            regards

          • Nitricc

            Ermias be happy kissing the tigryans elits.
            What the hell is wrong with you?
            My bad.
            Your inspiration comes from Serray and YG
            Your eye opening comes from no one but seasoned TPLF cadre TK
            I suggest you are well informed. Have some Wing and watch the girls sport soccer.
            What 4&)&(&(“?”&!”

          • dawit

            Thanks dear Moderators, for your even handed way of ‘halewa’ debate. What is the meaning of ‘MENDEF’? This reminded me my theorem of ‘action and reaction’. Ermias, I am not to respond to your wise statement, except to wish you good luck in your dreams.

          • Rodab

            HI dawit,
            You must have missed Pappi’s recent sterling performance against YGism to call her YG xxxxx (whatever that was). She is not!
            But I understand why you got a bit upset. You were hurled at.
            Let’s all of us minimize negativity. It doesn’t help with anything.

          • dawit

            Hi Rodab,
            Respect is a two way street. I was amused how the AT Security Council make distinctions which wards deserve xxxxx negativity classification? Thanks for your wise words.
            Peace!

      • Amir Ikud

        Eritrea Constitution SOON, Eritrea should hold a Referendum about a new constitution that can better fit Contemporary Eritrea and that constitution should stipulate Eritrea will only be governed by one responsible front and that should be stipulated through a referendum about PFDJ’s future as PFDJ is the Property of the Masses, PIA can not and will not decide the fate of the Populous Front by his own. Congratulations Eritrea, Patience is Virtue, ” Meen Asbera maiyu tsera” Happy Independence Day Eritrea. Im Happy Happy Happy Happy

      • Nitricc

        SAAY
        I think PIA eliminated the entire so called opposition with one line of speech. I know they never existed but in the mind of Amanual and ever confused Semere Andom mind did.
        Bye oppositions. Good night and please the turn off the lightes.
        Bereket Simon will be pissed. What is he going to do now?
        It is bad day for Tigryan elits too. Hahahaha

        • saay7

          Nitricc The Independent:

          I think this means that on May 23 at 23:59:59 hours, Weyane vacated all the Eritrean lands it occupies because according to the Isaiasists that is the precondition for any talk about constitution. Yohanna, rebuffing with patriotic zeal etc must have paid off:)

          If you thought 3 years ago was the right time to call for discussions on the constitution, why didn’t you?

          When is the right time for anything? When Isaias says it is. What a terrible way for a free people to live. Don’t you think so, Nitricc the Independent?

          Saay

    • Amanuel

      Hi Rodab
      Here is below the paragraph about constitution taken from shabait.com. But remember in 2002 when the Eritrean Assembly gathered for the last time set up a party law drafting commission lead by Romodan Mohammed Nur but we have never heard about it after.

      “Within the framework of our tasks of nation building, the political infrastructure assumes a vital role as a vehicle to advance our overall objectives. We have gleaned important lessons and experiences from the hostile external schemes aimed at derailing our nation-building endeavours and processes. I would thus like to announce on this occasion that a constitution drafting process will be launched in order to chart out the political road map for the future governmental structure.”

  • jim

    “Asking” and demanding are two different things. The future government ask for voluntary contribution without any consequence to those who do not contribute. My question is: why the criminal mafia regime refuses aid from NGOs and yet demands 2% from the diaspora? Is it because the diaspora cannot demand accountability?

    • tafla

      Jim,

      Citizens have a right to demand to know how their tax money is spent and governments have a right to collect taxes. On the question of NGO’s, the one that gives you money also asks for accountabilty, therefore it’s better that the government answers to its own people rather than foreign entities. It should be mandatory, if you want to recieve all services as a full citizen in Eritrea, since you are not inside the country physicaly defending and building the nation, a small contribution from a fat western salary is not a lot of money.

    • Fenomeno

      In mine opinion the GoE is allowed to demand 2% if you ask/demand them any service.

      Imagine that we as diaspora would not be demanded to pay any tax. Than that technically would mean that our services will be paid for by the (poor) Eritreans in Eritrea.

      Off course one should be allowed to not pay the tax and lose his Eritrean citizenship.

  • koboro

    ‘Haki merar eya’ This is a best saying for Higdef’s and its puppets. I am 100 sure that Issayas (not even GOE or PFDJ) was supporting Somali militants, Al Shabab, Shiek Sherif, Mohammed Dwer Aweys…etc when they were in Asmara in 2006 – 2008 until the days I were in Eritrea. Imperial Hotel was their place enjoying best foods and refreshments while we were queuing to get a bread early in the morning for our kids. I can be a witness to this any where I summoned to. I have spoken with some members in Embasoira hotel and I was shocked how they were aggressive and hardliners and intolerable to other religions including Christian. US Sanction is hurting Issayas and his nasty doings not the people because the people was already sanctioned by the regime long time ago.

  • Fenomeno

    In addition is it illegal that a GoE asks 2% of its citizens for its embassy services? Or is it illegal because the GoE is not chosen by the people? Or are the activities (in eritrea) that the GoE uses the 2% for illegal?

    Or is it just wrong economics? As maybe the diaspora itself could have invested the 2% more efficiently?

    I am asking this questions, because it is not clear what exactly is the problem of the 2%? For example would you also be against a future elected governement of Eritrea asking 2% of its citizens for providing and most importantly for rebuilding the country? I am certainly not. However the problem with 2% now is that you are directly financing PFDJ. Hopefully in the future the 2% could work as an ongoing tax that would be part of the state budget, regardeless of which party is holding power. So that you are not supporting a certain/ideology but really the State of Eritrea.

  • Fenomeno

    You mention that only 2 airlines are flying to Eritrea. I believe Turkish Airlines will be flying to Eritrea too soon? Check turkishairlines.com

  • jim

    I’m so glad to here the UNSC is not likely to lift the sanctions. I’m hoping, however, to see the General Assembly to pass a resolution condemning the criminal regime for it’s egregious and gross human rights violations.

  • SM

    Why are u forgetting the scary economic crisis of the biggest economy in the world with 17 trillion dollars debt despite its reckless power of doing what ever it wants to do all over the world….but you are making it a big deal that this small Nation is falling apart,when in fact it is getting stronger despite all the odds…?
    The only reason these desperados are doing whatever they are doing is simply because Eritrea has made it even stronger than ever and beyond their expectation and their evil wish..
    Kudos Eritrea….Happy Independence Day for those who believe in it…..
    As Thomas Mountain said it/quoted some one,Eritrea has become another Cuba…of Africa.

  • SM

    The AT,
    Your tone indicates , proves and confirms,that you are for the worst economic sanction,which you,Haile the g included, denied in the past claiming that the Sanction was NOT economical but targeted and military one.
    You seem to be happy campers,fully knowing that the sanction is killing the innocent people,the poor and malnourished kids included.
    How am I going to differentiate you then from people like Amde or T Kifle?

    • haileTG

      Cm’on SM, that is a cheap shot (in as far as you included me, the AT can address their side)

      1 – The economic impact mentioned above is indirect. A direct economic embargo under chapter VII would see the PFDJ out of power in max. 3 months flat. You really got to update on the basic of economic embargos. They are lethal. The current pressure is minor and doesn’t touch the vast part of other transactions. The suffering you mentioned are true, but they are deliberately imposed on the people to empty them out of the country.

      2 – This military and arms linked embargo has its own ramification in law and order matters in few years from now. The regime is exposing the people and the country to such situation by refusing to allow investigations team mandated by UN. It has criminal associations that it fears from being exposed.

      3 – Ethiopia is being threatened by the regime’s training of terrorist groups (TPDM? some say it is fake:) what would the regime do in that position? call for removal of sanctions?

      Can we safely say PFDJ has become a laughingstock?

      • dawit

        No! Haile GT is a pride of its people. just watch the 23rd. Independence celebration. If the degree of celebration can be a measure of celebration represent the health of a country, obviously the 2014 is the largest of all. Now on the UN sanction, AT is in business of splitting hair following their order from Suzan Rice and Meless, preaching to us. They keep saying it is not Economic, but targeted or smart sanction, similar to ‘smart bomb’, that pinpoint a terrorist from the air 30000ft above without touching a child or women on the ground ‘collateral damage’. The IGAD accusation of Eritrea, is nothing but pure fabricated lies’ Bombing AU, 2000 armed Eritreans fighters in Somalia, Al Shabab assistance while Ethiopia created it an supplied the arms). Those fabricated accusations are similar to “Eritrea The Largest Coffee Exporter of Africa” that lead to the border war. Eritrean has beaten the US lead UN sanctions was imposed when Ethiopian sanction failed immediately after the border war. Eritrea quickly adjusted its relation with Sudan and integrated its economy with Sudan disproving those who predicted Eritrea to collapse in six months, because of lack of money from its port services. The Eritrean weapon of ‘Self Reliance’ is still working its miracle! Any country would have collapsed with relentless UN sanction in six month. Please AT don’t try to convince us by telling us black is white and day is night. You still believe ‘Eritrea the largest coffee exporter in Africa=Eritrea arms Al Shabab’.

        • Saleh Johar

          dawit, now after making a false allegation, I am challenging you to prove your claim:

          “…AT is in the business of splitting hair following their order from Suzan Rice and Meless…”

          Your other allegations are legitimate given the modus operandi that you follow. I will pass you allegation that Meless is passing his orders to us from his grave, we understand your right to hallucinate. Prove that AT gets orders from Suzan Rice. Prove this to avoid being considered someone with empty talk. If you don’t I will remind you of this everyday.

          • dawit

            Saleh Johar,
            Meles and Suzi are the Architects of UN sanctions against Eritrea. The IGAD and AU are condoms to legitimize the crime committed against the children of Eritrea. I have never read a single article opposing this crime, at AT, even when former US Foreign officers doubted the allegation of Eritrean help for Al Shabab, Awate came with an article condemning them for doubting Eritrean guilt. ‘Eritrea is guilty until it is proven innocent’. Whenever I write on UN Economic Sanctions against Eritrea, AT rushes to silence me that my claim is wrong, and I have to stick to the politically right word ‘Military Sanction’, as if there is a difference the money you spend on Tank or a Tractor?. Now Saleh, I will keep writing ‘UN economic sanctions’ reminding you there are no difference between them everyday.
            About Meles giving order from his grave please address that to Desalegne Hailemariam. He can tell you more about that.

          • Saleh Johar

            Dawit, I said before you have the right to hallucinate. That will not be counted against you. I repeat, prove that AT receives orders from Suzan Rice.

            Learn to debate honestly, try thought honesty is difficult from where you are coming. I will not ask Hailemariam because he didn’t make the allegation. You did and I ask you. Either put up or shut up.

            Still, I am challenging you to prove that Susan gives orders to AT.

          • dawit

            Ok Saleh, I admit you don’t follow order from Susan, my mistake to throw that , you have an independent Eritrean website. But you agree with Susan arguments and justifications for UN sanctions on Eritrea. You think UN sanction is good for Eritrea. That is where we differ. On splitting hair argument, you believe in the smart or targeted Sanction, I believe, it is dumb sanction a blunt bullet that killed the guilty and the innocent without distinctions.
            Peace

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Hey dawit,

            We don’t care what stand you have. That is your in alienable right. Just stop blackmailing or unjustifiable threat to people. You will be a wholesome good man with sound body and mind. Work out on that and that is not that much difficult.

            Hawka,

            Amanuel Hidrat

          • dawit

            Waw! dawit ‘making blackmailing or unjustifiable threat to people’. How long did it took to make this discovery?

          • Amanuel

            Hi there
            Is tafla as same as dawit? Why is tafla admitting dawit’s mistake. I am confused.

          • dawit

            Hi Amanuel is Saleh Johar the same as Amanuel? Are you confused more?

          • Ermias

            Aman nebsi, if you must know, here it is:

            Nitricc=SM=dawit=tafla=Araya and many many more.

          • dawit

            How do You forget one important variable from your equation which is equal = IA

          • Saleh Johar

            Yes I totally agree with the sanctions. In fact I draftted the first call for sanctions in 2006 when awate and Dallas EPF founded Eritrean Global Solidarity (EGS). Subsequently, the call for sanctions, together with thousands of signatures (for the first time including signatures from refugees in Sudan, which was coordinated by Sweyra group under Yassin M. Ali who was instrumental in helping EGS be established) was delivered to all major countries foreign ministries, by Eritreans on behalf of EGS, from UK, Sweden to Australia and the Middle East. If there is a screw that needs to be tightened, please let me know.

            Thank you for admitting your hyperbole about Susan giving AT orders was a mistake.

          • dawit

            Thanks Saleh for telling the truth about your involvement on “Eritrean Sanctions’ You are added one more budge from Ethiopia. I am not going to start another argument of your visit to Addis and Djibouti!
            Regards

          • Saleh Johar

            Yeah dawit, and a while ago I ate lunch to please Ethiopia. Anything we do is for Ethiopia, right? When will you have trust and respect for an Eritrean Will? Anything has to be for others? You hold Eritreans in a low esteem.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dawitom, why you put yourself in trouble. This is what we are fighting for, you will be accountable of what you say and do in future Eritrea even if you are in high position. PFDJ is blaming and accusing others. PFDJ is accusing people and arresting with out any rule and system, that will not work in democratic nation. Saleh is challenging you today and start to learn if you want to be in democratic nation tomorrow.

        • Ermias

          dawit

          Just a day or two ago, SAAY was arguing that the coffee story was bogus.

          The way I understood this Gedab news story is that the sanctions have inflicted a toll order in most sectors of the Eritrean economy. The tone to me seemed like more of a sympathy to the overall health of the country rather than cheering the sanctions. So dawit, have other people read and interpret for you or just go to remedial classes.

          • dawit

            Ermias once a liar your are always a liar. Who made the coffee story bogus?
            Eritrea Africa’s Largest coffee exporter=Eritrea bombed = AU HQ= Eritrea deployed 2000 Armed soldiers in Somalia=Eritrea armed Al Shabab
            Therefore Eritrea is guilty deserves UN Sanction. And you are cheering along with AT, thinking it will destroy IA. Anything is legitimate as long as it weakens IA even if it kills Eritrean Children. Ermi you can not debate against me, you need to school or better kindergarten to learn your basic knowledge of your country!

          • Kokhob Selam

            dawitom, I might be unique to you or you may not take my stand. but let me say it loudly. do you know why I don’t care about Sanction and the stories around it? I really don’t care because our people are in Sanction from the beginning. do you say Eritrean children? who make them suffer? the international sanction? Do I need to be economist to know how Eritrean is doing when I am watching our young generation is leaving the country?

  • Mahmud Saleh

    Salam Amde: Today;
    1$->Br19.57175
    1Br->0.0512360
    This is from 1$=7Br (the last time I used it); of course, you could say Ethiopia is rapidly developing and the demand of $ is greater than the supply; but you also know Ethiopia is an exporter.
    The point is: give the government of Eritrea a credit of at least keeping things runing. Who expected it to last this long? And lift the sunction now. Mr. UN (aka woyane/aka IGAD)
    SORRY GUYS, IT IS THE SPIRIT OF NATSENET. HAPPY QNE NATSENET. I don’t know why we need a whole Qne (week) when we have so much of a reconstruction to do. Amde, if you live in the diaspora, eritrawyan balubet sefer bq bel.

    • SM

      Ahlen bika ya Habibi!
      I love your real EPLF stand big Bro.
      Sal;where are you hiding?
      Tell us your mind.

    • dawit

      Selam Mahmud;
      ‘Why we need whole Qne’. I think for people who worked 51 weeks building, dams, terraces for soil conservations, dig irrigation canals, plant trees, build roads etc. they deserve one week celebration of their independence. Work hard and Party hard!
      Ya Ethiopians should also celebrate it, Eritrean Independence is also Ethiopian Independence, if they can understand it.
      Happy independence Week,

    • T. Kifle

      Selamat Mahmud,

      The currency thing is tricky. It doesn’t matter how much is birr to a dollar. What matters is the difference between the conversion values of the banks and the black market. In Ethiopia it is in cents running between 30-50 cents. The second important factor is stability. If it fluctuates significantly every time, investor confidence will be lost and investment declines. It also dries up reserve because money(dollar) flies away. In all counts, Ethiopian financial indicators are sound and stable.

  • Saleh Johar

    I think you are wrong Amde,
    Where the currency is printed has no bearing on its value since the Eritrean national Bank sets the value of the currency unit regardless of where it was printed. I do not know the quality of the Sudanese printers, but currency is printed as per specification so there is little chance of identifying the difference, which is not important anyway. If that is the case, governments change the currency drastically, in size, color and graphics. Printers are private companies and have no authority or means to set the value of currencies–that kind of control ended with the Gold Standard, thanks to Nixon who killed it permanently.

    • Amde

      I was saying it more in a tongue in cheek fashion – I doubt very much the Eritrean government will want Nakfa notes of the same denomination but visibly different floating. Although the look of currency gets changed all the time without withdrawing those in circulation – so that is not outside of the norm. .

      As an aside, I can understand why you would want to have something like Gold as a non-corruptible unit of currency, but I am amazed that in this day and age, something else has not represented it. If “value” is created by the physical and intellectual effort of people, why should that be tied to something arbitrary like how much of a particular kind of stuff is dug up from the earth. Money is a big mystery to me.

      Hope hyperinflation won’t hit though. That just makes ordinary people’s lives terrible.

      amde

      • Saleh Johar

        Amde, I think you need to refresh your financial statements are a bit rusty 🙂
        The Gold Standard was scrapped long time ago, the last person who last killed it was Richard Nixon using the same excuse you gave: why Gold? He believed the US economy (and currency that represents it) is more trustworthy than gold. The problem today is that the value of wealth is represented by the clouds in the sky–look up and pick any formation of clouds, it is worth billions 🙂

        After the scrapping of the gold standard, there remained no tangible means to measure currency apart from the perception of wealth a country has and the confidence in its economy and wealth, whether actual of perceived. I believe there should be something tangible to measure the value of wealth, and currency should reflect that.

        Gold as a rare commodity was by far better than what we have now: nothing. We now have wealth created in cyber space through wild gesturing in Wall Street and the like, mainly based on speculation and trickery. I think that is called gambling! Therefore, the value of money is based on gambling where many of the players cheat, there is weak supervision and inspection that a Las Vegas casino security puts to shame.

        • haileTG

          Selamat Bankers SGJ Esq. and Amde Esq. 🙂

          First of though, thanks AT for my kind of topic, I wish half the discussion in this forum be financial economics, because that seems to be more than half of thirdworld’s problems. But IA holding the 100 ERN is too much to resist, don’t blame me if I vote for him 🙂

          I am not sure about overall quality and standard of the Sudanese based currency printer. However, if I remember correctly, as recently as few years ago, representatives of the Ethiopian National Bank did visit the company with the intention of printing the birr there. I don’t know if the deal fell through or is still in the pipeline but it was significant enough for the company to issue press release concerning a possible deal with the Ethiopian National Bank to supply their paper currency needs.

          Again I would be stabbing in the dark here, but my main concern would be how good their counterfeit as well as maintenance during storage and transit related security provisions are. I have no clue, so my intent isn’t to cast a doubt rather explore the matter further. Their main selling pitch is that it would be cheaper to do the work with them, so I suspect the reduction would have to be off set somewhere by the level of service (especially security). If they can’t assure high security of the printed money, it can also have a serious impact on the logistics of circulation. So, why didn’t the deal with Ethiopia didn’t materialize (Eyob and T Kifle are welcome to share your views too).

          Regards

          • T. Kifle

            Dear haile TG,

            Actually NBE wouldn’t disclose the reason behind dropping the Sudan printer but we can guess. They usually do it by floating internationally competitive bid. money printing is a serious issues as you aptly explained and NBE mostly preferred the UK company for the same. If I must guess, the quality and security features would take prominence for selection since Ethiopia has been repeatedly hit by counterfeit banknotes and the Sudan’s company would make it unlikely candidate compared to the others. Tradition is also a factor, we usually tend to incline towards what we think we know best.

            Regards

        • Amde

          Hi Saleh,

          I think Nixon was right conceptually, but then again, I am no economist.

          Consider the time we spend on this forum – you by supporting this site, me by pissing off people :-).
          Are we creating some kind of value – I would say yes? And how is that related to the amount of gold in China?

          amde

          • Saleh Johar

            Amde, Haile TG, T.Kifle and others interested in the subject of finance

            It looks like Amde and I will go on a tangent with the way you are handling the debate 🙂 I don’t mind because I have some elementary understanding of the subject.

            Here is an answer to you dilemma of value creation. First, we can either take this to philosophical realms or keep it simple. Philosophically, we you agree with me that God created oxygen and every time we consume it we create value for God and a debt on our account. God receives his dues in prayers and by doing that, we pay him back. See, that kind of discussion will not take us anywhere. Let’s come down to earth 🙂

            Awatistas using this forum, and we providing and maintaining it are creating value. Whether you consider this value payable, something we can charge for and you are willing to pay for it, depends on how you weigh this service. If you do it for entertainment, selling your ideas or defending your right, has a cost: value due to awate.com.

            But since we do not treat it that way, let me experiment with your idea: for every comment you post, we will charge you 10 Awate units (our currency) and every time you read a comment, we charge you 5 Awate units. Using that weight of value, we have created, say, a value of roughly 100,000 Awate units in the current month of May alone. Now we will trade the value we created in the Stock Market–$1 for each awate unit. Some suckers will buy all our floated stock and we will have $100,000 that we can spend lavishly. And the suckers will have bonds/certificate, I Owe You’s, etc. If the racket continues, they can put them in the market and one sucker after the other will circulate them until the end of time. Or, one sucker will hoard all awate units and come to me to redeem them in USdollars. Guess what? The money was already spent.

            Another way of doing it: since what we do costs money, which we offer for free, voluntarily, it remains a value limited to goodwill.

            You can think of Awate units as any currency (with nothing tangible supporting it) and you get your answer: currency is supposed to equal the total wealth of a country increased as per the increase in the production of good and services. If currency is more than that, you get inflation;if currency is less than that, you get a squeezed market that cannot function. Of course I am narrowing it to one : real money as we now it. I am not expanding this to encompass all the other financial tools (mostly three-card-monte) or the broad definition of money supply or the politics of finance, or, get this major scam of the financial world, creating credit out of thin air. Meaning, creating money out of nothing. This can be explained in passing by the ratio of liquidity to credit a bank can offer.

            Finally, if you read until here, we will ask you to pay for the value we are creating. We will start a fundraiser soon 🙂

          • Abinet

            Ato Saleh
            Thank you for your service .this is not just an Eritrean website . It is rather a school without a wall where we learn a lot from each other . Thank you also for tolerating us when we act bad boys (the ladies behave almost always). Some times emotion gets in the way.
            This is a place worth paying for .
            In behalf of all Ethiopians ,I thank you for your no discrimination policy based on nationality.
            Thank you .

          • Saleh Johar

            Thank you for the nice words. There is a Tigrinya saying that goes like this: kbur yekhbreka——- —— Hsur yeHsreka —— —–.

            I left blank space intentionally. If you speak Tigrinya, you know it. If you don’t, I want to force you to ask and learn this beautiful and intelligent saying 🙂

            Thank you again

          • abinet

            Ato Seleh
            l will ask for the translation and get back to you. I guess I have to learn tgrigna. I feel like I am missing a lot.
            Thank you.

          • abinet

            Ato Saleh
            I think I got it.

            kibur yakebrhal, qelil yaqelhal. I demand some credit hour from awate university.
            YEKENYELEY.

          • Amde

            Hi Saleh,

            If we are on the unrelated subject of Awate units, what do you think of this article? https://medium.com/tech-and-inequality/why-should-we-support-the-idea-of-an-unconditional-basic-income-8a2680c73dd3

            It is talking about the idea of “Basic Guaranteed Income” which everyone will get just by virtue of being citizens. To me it highlights the arbitrariness of money. Isn’t this setting an arbitrary low limit to consumer demand. Why not Awate units in that case? -;

            I am actually interested in this issue – I think jobs are a disappearing social feature (on a long term) and I suspect we will never see “employment” as high as it was in the 2000s. People will be more and more superfluous for the “economy”.

            amde

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Amde,
            As enticing as the subject is, let me pass this time. I am focusing on skinning the wicked cat 🙂
            But so that you don’t see this as an escape, let me say this: Forget about bread for now, I believe what ails capitalism is humanity is being stripped from its soul leaving behind a body without a soul. Even charity has become too mechanical, devoid of human feelings. There is lack of spiritual guidance in the West where churches and pastors have become mega stars and praying has become regimental, a television show. Even police work, court has become show material. Security, ceased to be a responsibility of the government, it is commercialized. You have money you secure yourself, you don’t, you are exposed. Ask yourself, why do I pay taxes? In short, there are vital sectors that should not be commercialized: education, health, and security. If those are shaped up, prosperity and peace would follow. That is why I asked you to forget bread for now 🙂

          • Amde

            Lol OK,

            I am in a generous mood and I will allow you to stop conversatin’ with me. This one time. Don’t make a habit of it young man. 🙂

            Actually, believe it or not, I think what you wrote is related to what I posted about anyway. I do think capitalism is in a serious crisis, and the coming age of AI automation makes this crisis even worse. Fundametally, capitalism has an implicit contract between labor and capital, that capital needs labor on one end, and consumer on the other. The current model is built with the assumption that work is the mechanism where labor is translated into consumer within the same entity (“carbon unit” as referred to in old sci-fi) .

            Well this new age is going to be where capital does NOT need labor. It just needs a consumer. I think people need more out of work than just money. So I am afraid we are headed into a serious crisis.

            good luck skinning the cat my friend.

            amde

  • Amde

    disqus sucks

  • Amde

    So the German printed Nakfa can be a hedge against Inflation then I must start hoarding.

    On a serious note, nothing is more frustrating than a legal and procedural limbo when you are on the receiving end of its ill effects.

    amde

    • Saleh Johar

      Funny Amde, you wish newer currency was valued more than the bills that circulated for years.

      Increasing the money supply by printing more currency and letting it circulate without corresponding value is a road to hyper inflation. We haven’t reached at the level of Zimbabwe a few years ago, but we are heading towards a 1000 Nakfa bill.

      • Amde

        Hi Saleh,

        Well if there was any way to tell the German Nakfa from the Sudan Nakfa, we will know for a fact that the supply of German Nakfa will not be increasing. Hence a hedge for inflation.

        There was this story told of the hyper-inflation in Weimar Germany. Woman needs to buy some bread. So she fills a wheelbarrow full of Marks, and pushes it out to the street, hustling before the baker closed shop. Along the way she is attacked by two hoodlums, who snatch the money filled wheelbarrow from her. As she looked on in desperation, they dumped the money and took the wheelbarrow.

        amde

        • Peeker

          Haha Amde,

          Well then we should all buy wheelbarrows to hedge our net-worth against hyper-inflation.