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Chalachew And The Abyssinian Violin

Today we bring you an unadulterated Abyssinian Masinqo in Amharic, or Chrawata in Tigrinya. It’s a pure countryside art that doesn’t encumber the ears with so much noise of brass instruments that Ethiopian are very fond of. The lyrics are comparable to the traditional impromptu recital of poetry or the trademark poetic and rhetoric art of Semenna Werq (Wax and Gold), which are commonly recited in sad event as in eulogies and funerals, or in feudal courts where the artists praise power, or in social events like weddings, or in entertainment places like Tej Bet, the traditional bars. In modern times, the art is preserved in Azmari Bet, places of food and drink, where such artists entertain the patrons of the place from dinner time to the wee hours of the morning.

The lyrics are original and if our guess is right, it could be a loaded message in Wax and Gold though it might seem too casual for the uninitiated.

Finally, we are not sure of the name of the artist, but probably he is called Chalachew Ashenafi. We hope you like and appreciate the art.

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  • Si Regards … Adaradhu..le nege AyCeneQ Qureshi! Tekeze Lead!

  • saay7

    Awatistas:

    As promised, here’s the cure to the awfulness of chra wata/masinqo: the 14-string kora

    You are welcome

    https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=sq6VTj6MNJ0

    Saay

    • Saleh Johar

      Saay,
      And here I present to you the 1 million string instrument, Kanun. It is a vital instrument for “Tereb” (I couldn’t find the right English word for it), and belly dancing music. There is hardly an Iraqi and Turkish sond without Kanun, which also means LAW in Arabic. Enjoy.

      • saay7

        SGJ:

        Meh, that’s a solo instrument: it can never be integrated in a band because it is too weird (check out the technical explanation for why.) it’s like the time The Beatles went to India and got all weird on Indian instruments and tried to harmonize them with their music. Didn’t work for anyone except those tripping on acid.

        Meanwhile remember how Ahmed Raji tainted the great Tuareg people by associating them with the terrible one-string fiddle (wata masinqo, equally horrible in all culture and don’t dare me by linking Ghana and Nigerian wata which will make u think u are in ur precious Addis) here they are reclaiming their grand reputation and rocking with four guitars:

        https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=et8aUPd2vi4

        Saay

    • Hayat Adem

      Hi Saay,
      I am addicted to the musics by his son, Vieux. I am not sure if he is as good as his Dad but I play it over and over and never get enough of his collections. Someone told me his father wanted him to be a soldier and he was strongly against him becoming a musician though to no avail. What a waste of talent would it have been had he heeded. Such a beautiful guitarist he turned out to be! I read a music commentator saying, “Vieux did the right thing by listening to his Dad’s music instead of Dad’s advice”

    • Abraham H.

      Thanks Saay, for linking this is pure soothing medicine.

  • Amde

    Selam Berhe,

    That was well written. And sounds like a realistic sequence of events.

    Thank you

    Amde

  • saay7

    Hala ahmed:

    Even from your mutilated messages I see your takeaway is that you are recommending the chra wata/masinko of the Tuareg people, the imzad. I can’t thank you enough for confirming…we’ll remember how Ralph Nader wrote a book critiquing General Motors and calling it “unsafe at any speed”? The chra wata is unlistenable in any culture including the otherwise fearsome Tuareg. I am sure they use that one-string monstrosity to torture people at Guantanamo.

    If you want to confirm more strings = more melody/harmony, let’s stay in the same side of the continent and check the 14-string kora. Just YouTube “kora” and go into a trance: no chat or any hallucinogen required.

    Exhibits to follow on Saturday.

    saay

    • Abi

      Saaytanish
      Amlakih yiqir yibelih.

  • Abi

    Hi All
    It is just the beginning of the new year and Awate.com is already in a big trouble. I don’t know what the coming months will bring to this አንጋፋ ድህረ ገፅ?
    Who is going to be Awatista of the Year????
    Paul? Haile? Abrehet? Amde? Hayat? Badime? Berhe? Fanti? አውራ ጉንዳን? It’s going to be a good Year.

    • Paulos

      Abisensation,

      What about you? I think you should be Awatista of the year.

      • Abi

        Paul
        Really? I mean Really? Really, Really ??
        I’m out of the picture. I’m the cameraman.

        • GitSAtSE

          Dear Abi,
          I am hearing voices again, despite preserving both if my ears…
          I think You The Great Abi(net) Example setter should be Tge Awatista of the Year.
          Reason;

          1. You seldom say much, but when you do it is powerful linguistically. And i owe you s lot more votes and forgive me for

          2. You find your self

          • saay7

            Hey TSaTSe:

            I would like to nominate “I am hearing voices again…” as a great opening sentence for your novel. We are talking on par with Albert Camus and his “mama died today or maybe it was yesterday, I can’t be sure.”

            Saay

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selam Saay,

            That sounds a very good title. I bought “Living With Prozac” mostly for the title long ago.

          • Abi

            Hi GitSAtSE
            If the vote is counted at the world famous Ernst and Young ( I mean the Ethiopian Election Board) , Fanti will get only 100% votes. You know how things work.
            I like to be in the jury box.
            Thanks for your vote of confidence.

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selam Abisha,

            I believe Abrehet Yosief just won the 2018 Awatista of the year election with a landslide victory. There won’t be any competition at all.

          • saay7

            Fanti:

            You attempt to undermine the legitimacy of the reign of Amde, discussing who the 2018 Awatista will be while the new king is barely getting used to his crown, is duly noted. You will be referred to the appropriate tehadaso for an intense self-criticism session*

            Saay

            * saw one video of a “tehadadso” meeting of the Wolkayit people. Phew!

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selam Saay,

            I assumed we had only one term limit. Don’t tell me Amde will change the constitution on the 9th month.

          • GitSAtSE

            Fanti,

            But Amde only got 98.7 % of the vote and he said he will accept the final and binding count and he wants a recount he is not sure himself like i&i no work for the buero rat race__what constitution? you can’t handle the constitutio!

            Does that count as a Hyku?

            tSAtSE

          • Fanti Ghana

            ¿Cómo estás GitSAtSE?
            Cómo se dice “constitución camaleón” en Inglés?

            traducir por favor.

          • GitSAtSE

            Fanti,

            The O zGs… La Raza Rrevolucion con pucho via al viejo Abo DonkJite..Pergatura.
            No gustan Jamon y Pollo Verde! Siempre Rojo!
            tSAtSE

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hola Usted,

            eres muy inteligente y divertido, “pucho via al viejo” Dios mio!

    • saay7

      Abi:

      This is a form of sedition: Amde has not even enjoyed two whole months of being Awatista of the Year 2017 and you are already plotting? This is looking suspiciously like tegentay behavior. Hulet egr etc hulet zaf etc.

      saay

      • Abi

        Saaytanish
        Well, tell me more about the tegentay behavior.
        Kebalebetu yaweqe buda nw.
        “ቃል የእምነት እዳ እንጅ የአባት ፣ እናት ውርስ እኮ አይደለም” ( አፄ ቴወድሮስ)
        Even in the World Cup finals a defending country has to go through qualifications. Amde has to qualify before he reached the final.

        • Amde

          Abi,

          The irony of quoting Tewodros and his “your word is your bond” (“…ቃል የእምነት እዳ እንጂ…”) to promote መፈንቅለ አዋቲስት።

          ወይ ዘመን!!

      • Fanti Ghana

        Selam Saay,

        Do you now see what we are going through?

        • saay7

          Hey Fantiness:

          I know! I mean the EPRDF has been in power for only 24+ years dominating the Federal parliament with only 100% monopoly and people like Abi won’t give them a break 😂

          That is what you mean, right?

          saay

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selam KoQaH,

            Yes, that was what I meant. We were never given one year of unhindered, uninterrupted, and peaceful reign. It is always embi. Dabo anyone? embi, Democracy anyone? embi. engeneTaTel? embi. Enwaga? Eshi, Eshi, ELLLL, ahun neku!

          • Abi

            Fantastic
            ችግሩ እኮ ዳቦውንም ዲሞክራሲውንም ነፈጋችሁን::

          • Paulos

            Abisensation,

            That’s a good one but I bet you if Fantination was at the Menelik Palace as in the PM, he would give you both.

          • GitSAtSE

            Paul,
            Abi would wait every day outside the gates of the palace to catch the first QiTQaT Pres. Fantination i&i t. Beetle VolsJAHwagen, throws a KiTQaTT ,price od Dabo, at Abi for a what looks like a hailmary Eli Manning Of the NY Giants. Only at the forty yard line, GitSAtSE intercepts the pass and unfortunately scores an own touchdown /safety ,,after Abi tacles him in kazanchis and with Hrkam buys Tala. Dabo who needz daba.. Just like Ragu sauce, TALA sUuWa the baisi Barley Dabo: “Its in There”” Who needs TiHlo One Menelik (Tall pint $1.00) One HaileSI&i for a Price of Only A KiTKaTt.

            price of living get so high ohhh what a FantiNatio
            A hungy Hypo
            A hungru Abi man is a hungry man A lot of Tef but the TiHlo not enough
            i will be a Bandi sooouuul Bandit
            Tigre is an Ambeta Race oh this a Rat Race Rasta Abi kows all the adbabay guday Sesssseere
            Abi nah na nehi nonoE work for kgb and the cia,
            Abi no noh eat dabo and French Hanza and Drink Half Meneli Half Meles Half DeskalAlecgn Wagaw .25 KiTkaTT JAHimslassie TALA

            Ere Tey Tey wudaseshi
            This is a Rat Race man yhonilishi Wenbedeshi Banditish

            tSAtSE

          • Abi

            Hi tAStSE
            I failed to understand your comment again. I see “Abi” everywhere in your comment. I’m not sure if it is my name or a word.

          • GitSAtSE

            Abi,

            It is like your Qola grusa..

            Like the Phoenix bird
            My hear from peaceful rest risen from the dead.
            ……

            I am hearing the Chugraf crack of the wip and it’s own cry.

            My keyboard hijacked, my submissions stolen and shredded or edited to be unreadable. STILL I RISE!

            Live Long and Prosper Awatista, we shall cross path again like abi’s ye Qola weff grusa.

            tSAtSE

          • Abi

            Selam Awragundan
            This comment is clearly readable , perfectly understandable and positively votable !!!
            Why don’t you write like this regularly.
            Thanks.
            Do we have to go Qola or bring weff into the discussion to understand your comments?

          • GitSAtSE

            Gash Abi,

            Let me try again: I am hearing you say Chigiru. Tegaru maleth neh adel..

            Yo know I hear dead people, I told ya right?

            Yo buy another Old Engish Forty Yo! Dey got OldE out heah in Kazanchis rifght,,? man what kinda gheto is this! peopke cool but no OldENglish 40zNizil How abut DuecesEleven, No Colt45 shnizul FortyozManizuol? Not since Tewodros Boiled and ate Checov and the baEbaE QE..

            Maannn Fukuyama FantiNation lets go to ma back to The Obamanation of Dorhomaynation. He don’t know didly squat and ain’t gonna do nada to Shitzu ma dog AbiNitsuh.

            tSAtSE

          • Abi

            Hi Paul
            Do you know how to down vote a comment?

          • Paulos

            That’s funny Abisensation.

        • GitSAtSE

          Dear Fanti Ghana,

          A decission, maker, with all honesty, has to be veted my Friend Paul….

          I wondered for some time whe will,Sasy7 order me to,go,to the corner. It is pribably a smart guy hand discovered long a go I am a hot head..,Napolian or Ya ming..
          QN: On Metkel — It is all about the Shoe.. Cingo/Shida.
          The reproach is due to the need for to weigh the Fky at hand and the ratio for… I believe in Simba Jumbo,Sanna Animation… ut is the Monkey,Uncle that illustrates To learn from past mistakes by Aboy Abi’s walking stick. Simba is taught to Duck…..

          As, the only kalashnkof I carried was a pencil trace cut out from a four by four for Stage 3 and “The Wutang Clan” Shaulin aTemple like training drils we did … and the Megazz …. I missed the,”Texas Chain Masdacre” by the Chini chin,of my hair… yeah ,apparantly
          I played hookie thecentire aazilo and elementary…
          ኣብ ኲናት ዘይ ወዓለስ ብሊሕ። mann I probably will cut of my ears on…..
          So on Metkel: Is it easier to govern or to be a soldier (a soldier by any other name is a soldier.. a rose is niot a soldier)

          Ato Amde, the blessing of being in the minority in your generation to,not face WAR,..ንስኻ ትሕሸሉ. .ኣነ ዝሓሸሽኩሉ።
          Nature Vs. Nurture, well it is like ThevForty Year,Old Virgin Azilo40 Agnieya.
          Fantination the,wise hypo .. the fly forages as he iw the hypos dentist,
          Amde “As You Were!”

          WAR … GOOD FOR ABSOLUTELY NITHING!

          but it is very difficult to chqnge one’s hot temperedness, And once a bandit always a bandit — nature.

          The demand to make a stand the time is now… And I need nurturing,from,Prozac Nation … scratch that.. Paulnl.. Hypo Fanti Ghana ….. iSEM …i need nurturing becsuse More is less… less of War.

          As you were Noble awatista… hey Paul..Qn
          tSAtse

    • Nitricc

      Hey Abi you seem to have a lot of time and board. Your toothless post says so. We are in February, you must take it life for granted. toothless.

  • Blue Asmara

    Salam Horizon and I agree with you 100% on what you
    have just said.

  • Fanti Ghana

    Selam Horizon,

    I don’t remember where I got it from, I know I didn’t invent it, but it has been said:

    “The more I know, the more I know how much I don’t know.”

    • Dear F.G.,

      The so called Socratic paradox “i know that I know nothing” or “i know one thing; that I know nothing”, is supposed to have been said by Socrates when he was asked, if he was the wisest man in athens. There are different interpretations. The core message I think is that it is impossible to know everything and knowledge and wisdom should be continuously pursued during one’s lifetime. It is similar to the saying, ‘learning is a lifelong process’.

      • Fanti Ghana

        Selam Horizon,

        Not important, but I now know exactly when I first used the phrase. I was heavly involved in a Bible study group (for non-stop four years) in Ohio who were investigating the original Greek and Aramaic texts comparing them to that of the King James version. I was involved not for the obvious reasons, but something else too long to explain. So, Socrates makes sense to have something to do with it.

      • Paulos

        Selam Fantination and Dr. Horizon,

        Did Socrates really exist or was he a creation or a product of Plato’s vivid imagination?

        • Fanti Ghana

          Selam Paulos,

          I just googled him, and it looks like he did exist. Plato was one of his students.

      • Dear Paulos,
        It is said that socrates has left no written material himself, and most of the things we know about him come from the writings of his students, especially plato, in his famous book the ‘apology’, which depicts the trial of socrates for his denial of the gods and for corrupting the young with his teachings. Nevertheless, I think that there are ancient statues that refer to the person socrates, which means that most probably he was a real person.
        (This comment is a response to Paulos. I think that i saw your commnet in which you asked if Socrates really existed. Unfortunately, I could not find your comment again).

    • Abraham H.

      Selam FG, knowledge is boundless, like the universe. How far do humans know beyond our planet earth, which is still far from complete?

  • Paulos

    Selamat Tsatse,

    I am sure you’ve seen “Goodwill Hunting.” As I was reading the first half of your comment, I was reminded by this particular scene in the movie where to the delight of the therapist, Goodwill started off to engage the therapist into his childhood life as in “Free Association” then before the therapist knew it, Goodwill fell back into his old habit of talking random but something of a depth beyond the therapist’s ability to comprehend.

    Goodwill however, was not disconnected in his own world but to the contrary, it was us who find ourselves with in the center of the bell-curve cursed with the unbearable lightness of being if I could borrow Milan Kundera.

    Again, when the rest of us who make a living in avereginometry fail to make a connection between the colorful theories as in the Strings, Avogadros with the contentious issues the border, your world tells us that, we as in the rest of us are victims of our upbringing as we were made to discriminate one form of knowledge from the other when knowledge is in fact a seamless reality.

    • GitSAtSE

      ስላም ኣንታ ብሩኽ ጳውሎስ።
      Here is where iSEM General pulls out The Menfit Filter of MaynfHi Institute of Technology. Signal,Analysid Sparta or The Movie 300.

      Miriam,was here by our MEMHR Abi Kerenino,SaliH Chapter 2 and Chapter 15 of the order in chaos from entropy, is The ናይብልሓባር ጉዕዞ ይል ይዓቢ፡ካብ ውልቃዊ ረብሓይ፡ደሊኻ ስለ ትሓልየልይ! I love you two! And I miss and love my favorite Mr. IshmailAA… as a ጠርናፊ of our collective cause that we chose To Be Rebels With A Cause.
      IshmaeilAA and MVB 3rd SaiH and others are were and are cognizant of Mile Marker 2 Bytes 16.
      Note to AHmed Raji fellow NYer… Ibrahim Afa leading to Ghadi’s Month BIT August and OhbCaptain my Captain,Legendary Actor Robin Williams in Dead Poets Society and As The Therapist of Harvard Square in Good Hunting.
      Collective and Personal,ficus tgrough filtiration, iSEM’s Menfeetler leads to,The,Orchestra in Central Park,of the focused child forvhis cause in his pitch (Abi.. Joro Joro)&in my favorite Robin,William more recentt movies,if not one of his last. Title August Rush
      Captain Saay7 the Cellistb will Provide Base.
      From,August Rush to Mariam SMeskeren. BMariam,DeAArit Keren…
      Does this mean I do not suffer from the same,if not more that can debated than Adi,KndishiH you all juast like Robyn William,un Fisher King? I submit Dr. Awatista Kokhob Selam TeAtXafitbKelashn Kov…. Semere2And Abi…
      But in,The African,Vietnam My Nation Eritrea. No chucking of komuderw. And All Hands On Deck. Tomorro’s Dawn,And the Generalsc,iSEM and KndisHiH Nitric are now on Point code Burtykan alert to filter our collective week side. Checkov’s 45 is iSEM.
      Dr.,Paul … The Alchemist by Spaniard Pablo Coelho is your first and second questions on your road to St. Peters Burg…for the Third along side your lil bro Nitric, iSEM, Tomas, Envission..abreham, abrehey berhe Y Abi…. Amde PillarX Blue Asmara …… Buffalo Soldier Gheteb!!! Gelel gele gurimayle.
      Ihita iSEM, Checkovs Mesarya aswniyatka dou With the MynfHi DESIGN of The Filter for Fluid Dynamics.
      Wavea lag and are in synk And Aya Amanuel,and Saay7 will make a Stance on this PAUL Blue Asmara Road New Model Runway….”I sse blue skyies …. rl” Raspy voice of Duke Elington,is it or Nat King call? GOOOOOODD mMorning Viertnam! … Robyn William.

      Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely.. Renan French Philosopher in Emperir Marcous Aurelious… And The Generals iSEM and Nitric arecon the commanding the safety of one another first and foremost and the Universal Law of Trust with the historic responsibility as measured by ሕልና and መምተኒ።

      don’t try do.

      MaHmood and Saay7 are,positioned as Forwards and Power MaHmood forward.The Generals are the Guards, and Centers IshmaeilAA, Ishmaeil Burhan Ali and AYA Amanuel Hidtat are the centers.
      Fanti Gjana Amde and Abi are in Ethiopias hudling with The Blue Island Lake of Badume.
      The All Stars inermission,weekend was awsome! Time for The Waaaaarrrrriiiorrrrss To Go work
      Make a stance, I love you Paul dearly for you are gentlemen and a scholar. I,have a lot of love and warmth in Da gheto.. Nathan Mcaul Nakes me wamna holla and Marvin,Gay’s Whats Going On..
      Voltairs Candeed and Eldado his Saddle of Five Canoes… His Object of LoVe the Prinncess, her line when narrating what befell her from princess to,slave tonloosing half a butticks to sit on… “who on that ship….”
      SPANIARD General iSEM,please solute and the Saint Councelor IPaul the Filter BIT iSEM is tSAtSE is Paul the i&i…
      DearvPaul all,ain’t good in da hood. So the chicanary of Pv=nRT forces.. Magnanomos, NoT Haftey beAlti Qya. DUTY Calls and I muat do,my part to call kubbo Eiba Bulls… Beeeeeeez hlbreaze beez,ShiE ..
      SIDNEY P AND Harry B…
      Ten Thouthand Georges and The Preacher an–+++ Yo da da yo,AOusman apucadeilii Chili Dehaika Habeni”
      BOOGIE Down Bronx Chucked D andl Flava Flave”
      PB CREAM,BIG BRO PAUL… whybarecAya Ah and Saay7 Cheezing.
      ሓበራዊ ጒዕዞ ጉዳይና ቢወት ይዓቢ፨ Say,Cheasse As you make a stand.
      WhatbGheteb? To much guromayle:)&Buffalo, Soldier, Stufent Union and., The Alchemist Ikenze’s Daughter..Ibi Sobo Uchena Ikenze …and Anabra State…

      I must report to,my commander as awatista TripleA !!!!
      ISEM,got the filter. BerheY “Natcisxzo in E concierto…” you,are right…. tSAtsA Fitlfth Market GEZAe Joy..
      Brgiet acanada Hjummm…. I will,get back,to you.Sir. Farrweeeedom! TripleA FtHi,Now..
      Make a Stand.

      Anwrucan as The Bridge ill Matic and Eritean as Arkobkobay!
      Yemane Areham Remix: :-X ፍሽኽታ ኣመለይ ፨።”ኣይ ጸላአኩክን ምስ ፈተኹኺ ሓንሳብ፡ ትዕድልትይ ኣብዩኒ ትበቲኑኒ ሓሳብ።” ብ መዓር ጠብይኪ ኢዩ ሓፍትና እብረሄት፨ ፉኩያማ ዩ ይይ Paul. ONE Love One String One Captain Saay!!! ፍርማጆ ባምቢኖ።
      tSAtSE

  • Paulos

    Selamat Awatistas,

    Is there any subject or issue that was never discussed in Awate forum? Just curious.

    • Blue Asmara

      Salam Paulos. Subject of issues that are never discussed? Ethiopian sensitive issues are not discussed here to include: 1) Should U.N. sanctions be placed on Ethiopia for failing to implement the EEBC ruling; 2) Should U.N. sanctions be placed on Ethiopia for frequent military incursions into Eritrea; 3) Ethiopia’s illegal occupation of Somalia; 4) Ethiopia’s possible use of Eritrean ports for humanitarian cargo; 5) Status of Ethiopia’s State of Emergency.

      • Selam Blue Asmara,
        All the things you mentioned above have been discussed one way or the other in the past. What you fail to see are:
        1) There are no guarantors for the implication of the so-called final and binding agreement, and not the world community and even the UN and the AU are interested anymore, from the time the unmee was kicked-out of the demilitarized zone, by nobody else but dia.
        2) There are no UN sanctions for going to war for self-defense. The badme war was a self-defense to dia/pfdj’s aggression (look at the decision of the border commission, which condemns eritrea as the aggressor), and latter incursions into eritrea were in response to the killings in ethiopia of foreign tourists, orchestrated by the eritrean regime.
        3) you must see whatever happens in the horn, and anywhere else for that matter, in relation to world geo-politics and the main players, i.e. world powers’ national interests. If you believe that ethiopia entered somalia without a green light from the west, you will be making a mistake. You should remember the “black hawk down” story. Americans were happy to see somebody else can do the job for them, and the ethiopian government was at the same time happy it could solve extremism that targets the country (thus killing two birds with one stone). Unfortunately, due to the situation created by al shabab and dia’s habit of meddling in somebody else’s business, somalia is more or less under occupation through decisions taken by AU and UN, and the somali government for the sake of its survival has accepted the situation.
        4) Nobody can force ethiopia to use eritrean ports. It is within ethiopia’s right to use or not to use. If there is a major humanitarian crisis due to shortage of food, ethiopia can give priority to the import of food items, and mobilize everything available for this purpose. She has done so in the past.
        5) The ethiopian state of emergency has cause and effect, at least as much as the ethiopian government is concerned. Eritrea is accused for hosting anti-ethiopian government opposition forces, and there is eritrean hand in the last uprising and the destruction of economic infrastructures. You cannot complain of state of emergency while the eritrean regime harbours, trains and arms rogue elements against ethiopia, as the ethiopian government suggests.

        You see things have cause and effect, and explanations are usually simple. The problem is where we stand and how we see and interpret things and events.

        One last thing, nothing will change if we discuss ad infinitum and ad nauseum the problems of badme and the borders till kingdom come, as long as the points of negotiation are dogmatically going to remain the same, as they have over the last 15 or so years. Discussing the same thing in the same way and expecting a result, which never came up to now, is not going to be helpful.

        Let me suggest as a solution, just for a change, something extraordinary and unrealistic. Let both parties wait until an ethiopian prime minister with an eritrean heart comes to power in addis, or the the opposite happens in asmara, i.e. an eritrean president with an ethiopian heart. The chances are extremely minimal, nevrtheles, let ethiopians and eritreans stop dwelling on badme and the borders, and both countries concentrate on their economic development and the people engage both governments for democracy and human rights. Otherwise, insisting on badme is equivalent to blocking the way towards economic development, human rights, democracy and so many important things out there on which the lives of both people depend.

        • Blue Asmara

          Salam Horizon and thanks for your comments. Are you by chance a high school student?

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam BA,

            Are you kidding? Check your English with his English, and more than that the various subjects he is discussing with the forumers.

          • Amde

            Selam Amanuel,

            I think BlueAsmara meant it in admiration.

            “One day… one blessed day… I too will graduate from high school…”

            Amde

          • Abi

            Amdachin
            Can you imagine Mr Snake walking up the steps to receive his high school diploma while the crowd cheering?

          • Amde

            Abiti,

            All 6’4″ of him.

            With a praise song…

            የኛማ መለሎ – የኛማ ለግላጋ
            እንኳን አደረሰህ – ለዚህ ታላቅ ፀጋ

            ስንደቁ ይተከል ይውለብለብ ካናትህ
            ኮራ ኮራ ትበል ትደስት እናትህ።

            Amde

          • Abi

            Amdachin
            6’4” will make him a juvenile anaconda coiling to attack unsuspecting victims.
            ነቄ ብለናል

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selam Amde,

            That is mean, but I have to up vote you for originality.

          • Abi

            Fantastic
            Originality was not in the list you provided for probable cause for an up vote. The list is getting longer.

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selam Abisha,

            What is wrong with you people? Haven’t you ever scene a fallen man before?

          • Blue Asmara

            Salam Amanuel Hidrat. LOL. What? You are a part time babysitter now? As I see you on a similar level as Horizon in terms of English facility and conceptualization, it is hardly fair to expect you to understand.

          • Thomas

            Hi Blue,

            You have down graded yourself to attacking people now? Typically, Higdef way of doing business:) I guess you lost the debate and you have no way of winning as such you chose to follow your masters approach, insulting and belittling everyone who happen to have a different view.

          • Abraham H.

            Hello Thomas, actually I thought this Blue guy was a reasonable one when s/he appeared in the forum as Blue Asmara. In fact I tried to protect him earlier when I thought he was treated a bit harsh. Now, unfortunately, as you said he is regressing to the very familiar dark tactics of the pfdjistas.

          • Nitricc

            Hey Blue, he is the Ethiopian defender; look how he jumps to defend them. I don’t why but their are not even worthy of it. Did you know that none of them ever stood up for when the Oromo and Amhara were massacred, NONE. Don’t waste your time they are bunch toothless and weyane lovers.

          • Dear Amanuel Hidrat,
            I know my weaknesses in the english language. I do not live in an english speaking country. Thanks to awate university, I have improved a lot indeed. Nevertheless, this has never been my main problem, whenever I write a comment. My main worry is if I write in a simple and uncomplicated language, so that people understand my message. I do not care much about the beauty of the packaging, but the content.
            I can understand that blue asmara run out of ideas and got frustrated. Well, some people do not like their opinion or worldview to be challenged. I hope that they overcome it with time.
            Regards.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Horizon & Amde,

            I will recommend BA to be an English lecturer at awate University. But he should be careful not to be corrected by his student as I have noticed many errors on his comment.

            AT : I am recommending BA who has a PHD from Oxford university to fill the vacancy that is available at Awate University.

            Regards

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Amanual
            My guess is Blue went to AAU.

          • Blue Asmara

            Salam Amanuel Hidrat. I am an MD and not a Phd. And, I am writing while bouncing in a Landcruiser on a rough road. I remember university days of old seeing people incredibly make grammatical corrections on bathroom wall grafitti. Are you one of them?

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam BA,

            Good for you to be an MD.

            Do you mean to say: I remember during old days, in the university, seeing students making grammatical corrections on the bathroom wall graffiti.

            Regards

          • Paulos

            Selamat Emma,

            This guy is a phony. The other day he was telling us that his major was Physics and now he is saying that he is Hakim. He might as well be hakim nay Enf’rur.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Paulos,

            Unfortunately, there are many Eritreans like him. You reminded me the era of our armed struggle, that the “first aid” team or staffs were being called doctors. So I will not be surprised if he is phony.

            Regards

          • Blue Asmara

            Salam Amanuel Hidrat. You have made an error in assuming that I am Eritrean for which I am not. I have tutored so many Eritrean and Ethiopian surgeons, all of which have been good people. And I was an active figure during the liberation struggle.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam BA,

            So “you are not Eritrean” and at the same time “you were active figure during the Liberation struggle.” Here you go, that you proved yourself that you are phony.

          • Blue Asmara

            Salam Amanuel Hidrat. I am hardly a phony. I was the only white non Italian in Asmara at the time of liberation. I am the person that quietly negotiated the peaceful surender on the Derge from Eritrea. Aware, was a nick that was actually given to le what entering Asmara on Friday, May 24th.

          • Thomas

            Hi BA,

            Baloney!!:) do you really believe yourself when you say such things? You seem to live in a state of denial:) Like Amma said we have many Eritreans like you. Take a shoot and enjoy being a lair, you are not the first one:)

          • Abrehet Yosief

            Selam Blue Asmara,

            Now this interesting. You made an assumption that none of us here were in Asmara on May 24th 1991. You assumed wrong. There was one tall American who was given the nickname Awet. But he was not as you claim “An MD, first degree Physics, Harvard educated neurosurgeon, who tutored many Eritrean and Ethiopian surgeons, was active figure during the liberation struggle, and quietly negotiated the peaceful surrender of the Derge”

            Paulos has always elevated the level of discussion in this forum with his vast knowledge and has made others to share theirs as well. You on the other hand don’t have anything positive to contribute but would tell him “you wouldn’t know that bright boy”. Even after urging discussion on topics such as: sanctions on Ethiopia, EEBC ruling, Ethiopia’s use of Eritrean ports, and State of Emergency in Ethiopia, you wondered why there are Ethiopians in this forum. Moreover, when one person responded on the topics you raised, you condescendingly pointed to his “English language facility and conceptualization” and doubted his ability to understand. Then you disqualified the very same people you berated for not discussing the topics of your choosing based on their ancestry, who they loved etc.

            When caught making grammatical mistakes, you compared the one who caught you to those people who corrected the graffiti in University bathrooms. You had to have been a student there to see them.

            Either you have appropriated the story of “Awet”, or too much bouncing in the land rover has caused some serious brain damage, or … pass on whatever you are smoking.

          • Abi

            Hi Abrehet Haftey
            Yeqenyeley.
            He also thinks a Snake can change to a dove by shading its old skin.

          • Abrehet Yosief

            Hi Abi
            Genzebka Hawey Natey. I consider guessing who the author is a waste of mental energy. I would rather read and learn. But the comment I replied to is now deleted.

          • Abi

            Hi Abrehet
            It is much easier to delete his comments than responding to you. I call it a knock out punch!!!!

          • Blue Asmara

            Hi Abrehet Yosief. I apologize if I have offended you and others here. The desperate situation in Eritrea these days and the inability to effect positive change can drive one mad and maybe I am already there. Who I am is really irrelevant in terms of positive change which people hope for Eritrea. Given that said, I am sure we have met before. I will still be wearing my white ball cap and tennis shoes when we hopefully meet again in Asmara. I will respectfully no longer be posting on this website as I am afraid that I have become far too sarcastiic and cynical and admittedly, I am unable to add anything of real value; I simply have run out of ideas on how to help my beloved Eritrea.

          • Abrehet Yosief

            Selam Blue Asmara
            No offense taken. Do take care of yourself.

          • Abraham H.

            Hi BA, you said, “I am afraid that I have become far too sarcastiic and cynical…”, but why? Can’t you just try to be honest with yourself, why do you’ve to waste yours and others time by telling lies? Very sad! My theory now is that you’re one of those tesfanews kiddis who came here to enundate this forum with your falsehoods. But that is a good lesson, anyway.

          • GitSAtSE

            BA,

            I can’t top Haile’S kebti-tSerfi simple tigrigna with my following qelil foxhole:

            Anta(ti) BA MarQos: Ab dfaE Barentu nay 70s Britney kdiQoss selaH Ilka mzlaQ indiKha gierkayo.

            Abrehet Y, baEley believe Fanti Ghana Qursi ijamey nebsey Hagizeya alekhu. Entay gebere Goyta PosTa Keren nedkimo. YQenyieley, yewraHaley, YeAmeteley.. Nibereley. Thank You.
            Hawki Beg MarQos.

            tSAtSE

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selam Abrehet Y,

            I don’t know what to say. If there is a false identity involved, it is against the posting guidelines of AT; may they took care of it. I hope there will be a less sad explanation to all this.

          • Dear Abi,
            ‘ይሄን ሰውዬ ያመነና ዉሃ ያፈሰ ዉጤቱ አንድ ነው።’ Personally I do not believe a word of what he says. Just imagine a white american refering to tplf as thuggish, lamenting for badme, acting as a die-hard eritrean regime supporter, and everything Abrehet Y. mentioned above in his comment. As if people have short memory, and do not remember what he said in his previous comments, he changes himself to nightingale and starts singing about the similarity and greatness of the two people, ethiopians and eritreans. Believing his words is equivalent to making a faustian contract that will leave us all flabbergasted when the truth comes to light.

          • Abi

            Hi Horizon
            የቱን ሰውዬ? እባቡን ማለትህ እንዳይሆን?

          • Paulos

            Selam Haftey,

            When Amde says gold, what you just said is what he meant. Simply beautiful!

          • Abrehet Yosief

            Selam Paulos
            Thank you Hawey Natey. It is true. I come to Awate University with a note book, and its newest professor is a wealth of knowledge. Keep it up.

          • saay7

            Abrehet:

            Please refer back to your notes from 2-4 years ago when we were discussing how and why the redundancy of “hawey natey” “Haftey natey” ( my brother of mine, my sister of mine) crept into the Tigrinya language. Papillon was mostly its practitioner 😂

            Saay

            PS: Abraham Afwerki sang “Fiqrey Natey” (my love of mine) but he is Abraham: a poet and normal rules of prose don’t apply to poets.

          • Abrehet Yosief

            Hi Saay,
            Get on with the times. Will you? Hawey Natey is in, Ata Hawey is out. Will update you after the Summer fashion roll out.

          • saay7

            Hey Abrehet:

            At Awate U, we believe in data and supporting evidence. Could u refer us to other uses of “Hawey natey” “haftey natey” anywhere else besides Awate U? Self-reference is frowned upon in scholarship. (Do not provide any assistance Fanti:)

            saay

          • Abrehet Yosief

            Dear Paulos and Abi,
            The grammar police, having no sense of poetry and the need for endearing language after one survives a hurricane, has objected to my use of a double possessive pronoun. Hence, I have to take back “natey” and leave you with “hawey”.

            Dear Saay,
            What happened to my immunity?

          • Abi

            Hi Abrehet
            ምንው እቴ የናቴ ልጅ ጉድ አረግሽኝ?

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello Abisha,

            That was good.
            I was going to suggest the direct translation “የኔ ወንድም” as substitute or “የኔ ቆንጆ” when you really behave, but I was quarantined by the CHira-waTTA hating, devoid of “sense of poetry” friend of mine.

          • Abi

            Fantastic
            ሄዋንን ያሳሳተ …

          • Paulos

            አብርሀት ሐፍተይ,

            The Good Book says, ብሩህ ገጽን ጥዑም መልሓስን ንልቢ የህድኦ. As you said it, terms of endearments ought to be encouraged not mocked.

          • saay7

            Selam Abrehet:

            The immunity still stands: that’s why I only asked for additional sources when you to told me to accept it because it’s the fashion. If someone tells me skinny ties are in (like the ones Fanti wears) or wide ties with floral patterns are in (like the ones Abi wears) and I don’t see them around, all I am doing is asking for a copy of a fashion magazine like GQ. 😂

            I hope now you get me, Abrehet Haftey aTbiqa natey ny beyney ny bHtey etc etc.

            Saay

          • Saleh Johar

            Abrehet Haftey Natey,
            A jingle is ringing in my head, a Tigrinya song that has, “Adey natey and Hawey natey” in the lyrics. Do you remember any of that?

          • iSem

            Hi Sal:
            Look who is asking. The answer is the same way “malet eyu”, “natka” or “natki” “hanti haba” crept into belove language

            “mush mahalanna nerna….” no to talk about this Tig thing before:-)

          • saay7

            Haha iSem:

            All languages change and evolve. There is an entire discipline dedicated to that called “historical linguistics.” What you-know-who is doing is no different from what Amanuel Hidrat was doing at ELF: introducing new vocabulary given that they are entirely new to the language.

            Well yeah sometimes as you and I know it becomes super-literal and enters into the realm of the absurd (see also: Tigrinya for “tip of the iceberg, in a country that has never seen icebergs) but for the most part it is necessary and contextual.

            But you know who is not responsible for people signing their letters with “natka”, “natki.” And is absolutely Pontius Pilate on hawey natey and haftey natey. Thus my q: is it at all possible that it is an entirely Awate U creation contributed by one alumni?

            saay

          • iSem

            Hi Sal:
            I see a collaboration between the Nefasit bookstore and the Forto Tigriniya Eesearch Center (headed by you know who/:-) ( taking over the digs from current MI)
            But do not fall from your chair to hear that I do not totally hold responsible you know who for literalism, it has started way before them, when we were fascinated by foreign languages, but like everything else they helped to make it worse.
            Well speaking of road-map and iceberg, white elephant is the most ridiculous. Literalism with metaphors gets ugly
            Well, what Emma was doing in ELF is much better, you know why, at least his friends translated Animal Farm to Tig and it was beautiful, if you can find it, it is a master piece. they entitled it “Denbe Ensissa”
            Then a decade after that I came across a book called “Hrisha Ensisa” and I thought it was about animal farming/husbandry, but it was the translation of Orwell’s Animal Farm by the other guys;-)

          • saay7

            ISem:

            That was very funny, animal husbandry and animal farm 😂

            Ah, the influence of the West and the gentrification of languages…here’s something very sad:

            I was watching an interview of an EriTV cameraman who crossed the border to Tigray. He was trying to say “mass media” and he kept saying “mass meda”. So I was narrating this to a friend and the friend says he once heard an Eritrean National Service member ask “how do you say ‘underground’ in English?” That thing, underground, is such a staple of the life of the Eritrean youth, he heard it all his life, that he actually thought it was a Tigrinya word. 😡😡😡

            Thanks for putting me in a bad mood.

            saay

          • Paulos

            Hey Say,

            I am laughing my eyes out. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. Underground in English? That is original. I know a guy who says, “However gin” when in fact “gin” is a Tigrinya word for “However.”

          • Thomas

            HI Paulos,

            Like some tigrean guy while playing dice used to say nevo nevo and then “tinchante”. Even though, calling different numbers helps to trick/confuse the players. This guy used to lose the dice game because of language:)

          • Paulos

            Selam Thomas,

            That’s funny. The adulterated or should I say, the butchered form of Quinine (read: mostly used for Malaria) is Kenina. As it happened, Isaias was touring Sawa and the issue of malaria came up and one of the students who hails from “Hagereseb” said to Isaias, we don’t have enough K’nenia instead of saying Kenina and Isaias said, nay K’nenia guday….laughing where the poor guy was soaked in sweat as the other students joined Isaias with laughter.

          • Thomas

            Hi Paulos,
            No one has told me that story. That is really funny:) You got to bite your tongue and close your mouth to hide the smile and laugh or you could get in a big trouble if you ever laugh:)

          • Paulos

            Selam Haftey,

            We are all here to learn from each other. It is in all of us and thank you for those kind words.

          • Blue Asmara

            HI Abrehet Yosief. I am back from the afterlife with a challenge. I will be williing to openly prove that I am who I have asserted to be, a Harvard educated MD, if every single person that has critisized me on this website provides a written comment/confirmation that they will never again post on this website if I provide proof of who I am. And, I would kindly ask confirmation from this website Moderator that they will enforce implied agreements that are made herein. You assume that you know so much from Friday, May 24th, 1991; to include Awet’s educational background and his role from 1985 to 1991 to include his 9 month imprisonment in 1986. And, you believe that the Dergue simply quietly withdrew/evacuated without any resistance and in such a coordinated manner. This is not a public health meeting in Adi Ugri. Saleh Johar, Abi, Paulos, Amanuel, Haile S., Amde, Thomas, Abraham H., Fanti Ghana, Hayet Adem, etc., are you game? If not, this pro screwed Ethiopian meeting post is just a waste of my time and a waste of any effort to improve the dire situation that Eritrea in now in.

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selam Blue Asmara,

            First of all, I am glad you are back. That said, I can’t really answer what you just asked because your identity was never an issue with me.

          • Haile S.

            Hi Blue Asmara,
            You will need to be more foxy to snare us using the fable of an out-foxed crow. I am answering you not necessarily wanting to hear Aasop`s/Fontaine`s fables from you, but from Abrehet Yosief. Judging by her exquisite Tigrigna, I hope, she remembers the story of ድቡስ ራኻ, the tigrigna version of the famous fable. I am having trous de memoire (memory loss) most likely, as Abi reminded us, due to my excessive consumption of Ethiopian Meade >30 years ago 🙂

          • Abi

            Hi Gashe Haile
            Mr Blue doesn’t read Geez. He is ferenj.

          • Abrehet Yosief

            Dear Haile S.
            I had no intention to engage along this line, ብደዋ ዝጸላእክዋ ኣራዊትሲ ኮፍ ኢላ ተዛርበኒ. but I felt I should make an effort for you. 
            Here is your ጽውጽዋይ
            Once upon a time, a lamb was out late and met a fox close to village.
            Lamb “ኣታ ድቡስ ራኻ ድቡስ ራኻ፤ ዘኽታም ማሕስእ ክትበልዕ ኣብ በረኻ”
            Fox “እንተ ቀደም እሞ ሓቅኻ፤ እንተሎሚ ግን ፈውሲ ሰትየ ንዕምርኻ”
            Lamb: እሞ ብዘይ ጨው ብዘይ በርበረ ዶ ክትበልዓኒ፤ ካብ ዓዲ ክምጽኣልካ ግደፈኒ፤ ኣብታ ገረብ ምስ በጻሕኩ ማርቆስ በለኒ
            Fox: ማርቆስ
            Lamb: ድቑስ የብሉኻ በታ ዓባይ መድቆስ
            And the lamb run away and went home.
            The end
            እዚኣ እንተ ረሳዕካ ሞት ትረስዕካ፤
            እዚኣ እንተ ዘከርካ ገዓት ጠስሚ ትዘክርካ::

          • Haile S.

            Thank you Abrehet,
            You made my night! That was exquisitely exceptional!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear Abrehet & Hailat,

            Both of you are phenomenon in your conversation. Keep up.

          • Abi

            Hi Abrehet
            I up voted you hoping you will translate the juicy part.
            ቀብድ ከፍያለሁ

          • GitSAtSE

            Abi,

            Crush you I pray they will with that big crusher.

            If this was the juicy part, Abrehet please pass me my share of the Qebdd.

            tSAtSE

          • Abrehet Yosief

            Hi Abi,
            The proverb would translate ከሩቁ የጠላሁት ኣውሬ፥ ቁጭ ብሎ ኣዋራኝ::

          • saay7

            Dear Disqus:

            I kindly request you configure your system so I can multiple upvotes to Abrehets posts.

            Wow. This is how it’s done ante-monolingual Abi:)

            Thanks Abrehet!

            Saay

          • Abi

            Hi Saaytanish
            Watch how I spin this proverb 360 degrees.
            ከሩቅ የጠላሁት አውሬ ፣ ቁጭ ብሎ አዋራኝ::

            ከሩቅ የሚጠሉት ሲቀርቡ የሚወዱት
            ዓይን ዓይኑን እያዩ የሚያጨዋውቱት
            ወላጅዎን ክደው በስሙ የሚምሉት
            አማራ ነው እንዴ?
            ጠረጠረ ሆዴ
            እጎኔ ተቀምጦ ጨዋታ ካመጣ
            እያሽኮረመመ እመደብ ከወጣ
            አልወጣም “ከስሩ” የፈለገ ይምጣ!!

          • saay7

            Abiyotawi:

            I have delegated Abrehet as my correspondent to Abiland and I await her reaction but I suspect you mean u turned it 180 degrees (opposite end of the line) and not 360 degrees (a full circle, back to the starting point.)

            saay

          • Abi

            Saaytanish
            I can spin it again to give it a different meaning. Spin spin spin…
            አማርኛ እንዳበጁሽ … መሆኑ ነው

          • saay7

            Abi:

            Ok. I will buy a vowel, Vanna 😂

            saay

          • Abi

            Thanks Abrehet
            Don’t listen to Saay.

          • Abrehet Yosief

            Hi Abi,
            I follow orders. Here is a little something I concocted for both of you.

            የጻፈው የሚሰርዝ ፈረንጅ
            ምስክር እንዳይገኝ ስያፋጅ
            ጎረቤቶቹ እርስበርሳቸው
            መተማመን ኣቅቷቸው
            ከሩቁ የጠሉት ሁኔታውን ኣይተው
            ትግሬ ነው ኣማራ ማጣራት ኣምሯቸው
            እርሱ እንደፈለገ ይዘላል ባገራቸው

            Saay,
            You have only yourself to blame. 🙂

          • Abrehet Yosief

            Dear Blue Asmara,
            If you have persuaded Dergue to withdraw from Asmara peacefully, you are a saint. We have always credited Kidane Mehret Sembel for this feat. You deserve a shrine in that neighborhood. If I mistook you for another person, I apologize and promise to burn a candle at the shrine as soon as I have the opportunity.
            Challenging others, whom you have referred to as participants of a public health meeting in Adi Ugri, to stop posting on this website if you provide proof of who you are is puzzling. My good sir, I do hope you know who you are. Unless you were another person when you responded in a very civil manner the last time you declared you will stop posting in this website.
            I wish you well.

          • Abraham H.

            Hello BA, could you please tell us where you are from? Last time you were talking about terrible life under the Derg in mid 80’s when you wrote about an Eritrean woman who was mudered by her Derg boyfriend. You also said you were dreaming of Tessenei when you looked at the hills of the town from Kassala in late 80’s.

          • Blue Asmara

            Hi Abraham H.. I am American and not of African descent. Fresh from medical school I supported both the TPLF and the EPLF and ERA and REST. My first wife and my second wife were killed during the Derge period. I am a Harvard educated neurosurgeon than has hoped the best for Eritrea and Ethiopia. But I am these days loosing hope. I simply do not see the light. After more than 30 years working pro bono in Africa, I plan to return to the USA later this year. Ethiopia and Eritrea are naturally brothers and sisters of the highest order and I do truly have special memories for both countries. Special people you both indeed are and I hope in the deepest part of my heart that the dreams of each country can be accommodated.

          • Thomas

            Hi BA,

            Now you really got me confused:)

          • Abraham H.

            Hello BA, thanks for sharing your story with us and your contribution to both Eritreans and Ethiopians and your well wishes for better relationship are highly appreciated. Thank you.

          • Blue Asmara

            Salam Paulos. Yes my undergraduate degree was in Physics. Direct entry med schools in the U.S. such as U.M.K.C. are few and far between and do not maintain good standing. But you wouldn’t know that would you bright boy?

          • Paulos

            Blue Asmara,

            Don’t try to be cute with me. You said your major was Physics when the subjective nature of the social sciences was the issue at hand. Why didn’t you say then you studied Medicine instead? Simply because you’re a phony.

          • Abi

            Paul
            I don’t trust anything he says. I’m not even sure if he is a real Snake or a rubber one.

          • Thomas

            Hi Abi,

            Come on now, this Blue guy got has to be from Ethiopia? I am 100% sure you Ethiopians have many of his kinds and you guys even have a name for them, “S’t like stegn”:) Like one waits for the other to finish with his fabricated stories until the other’s turn up:)) Abi- please tell this guy to stop lying:)

          • Abi

            Tomi
            This is how a guy from Addis would say to him
            “ጆኒ አቦ አትስጪና”
            The guy is from Eritrea.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            Didn’t I tell you how the PFDJiete will go bananas after they heard the interview of Kidane Jamaica, and his revelation that Isayas is his cousin and he is Tigraway.

            My list include Semere T., Blue Asmara, KDT, Nitricc..

            I thought it would take some time, but didn’t expect this fast…So far we have Semere T and today this Blue Asmara guy…now waiting for the others. Nitricc seems to have escaped but will see how far he will last…

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hi Berhe Hawey
            It was a great show!!
            Blue just denied his Eritreawinet. More to come.
            You guessed it right.

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello Berhe Y,

            Semere T. is clear on this one. He had specifically stated that genealogy should not matter very recently. By saying this I don’t mean the others are guilty as charged, but I felt guilt for not defending him because it was a few days ago when he said it and it is fresh in my mind.

          • Blue Asmara

            Salam Paulos. I really don’t want to fight. I was the only non-Italian white guy in Asmara on Friday, May 24th, 1991. Kind of hard to hide myself at 6’4″ tall. But I guess nobody here amongst commenters was there at the time.

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi BA,
            I remember two white guys, one of them has a name that sounds like “Mountain”, you must have been the other guy. More than two would have been a disaster greater than the Capo himself, and the world would have felt the earth shaking under your 6.4 height when you strolled the streets of “Blue Asmara” that has now turned all gray. Now that I think about it, there must be more than two of your great caliber.

          • Abraham H.

            Selam SGJ, I heard there were a few westerners who took part in the Eritrean revolution; one of them I knew was called Paul and he worked in the education department until after independence. He was british, i guess, and he was also quite tall.

          • Saleh Johar

            Abraham,

            I also know many other, but that is not related to BA’s comment or my interjection.

          • Blue Asmara

            Hi Saleh Johar. Thomas Mountain is an indiot and I do not think he was around in the old days. Are you the same Saleh whose father had an office near the post office? Please excuse me if I am wrong.

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Blue Asmara,

          • Blue Asmara

            Hi Saleh Jowhar. A special gentle man your uncle. Not sure when I will be back to Eritrea again. I arrived yesterday to a rainy Arusha and will be here a few days.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Paulos,

            I do not think a phony caricature deserve a respnse from you.

          • Abi

            Hi Blue
            Is your Landcruiser equipped with hot spot? We all know how the internet is reliable .

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello PM Horizon,

            It is kind of silly to use mastery of a specific language as a unit measure of “intelligence,” but I think the idea may have its root in our assumption of those who speak English well are “well educated.” I have a friend who studied in Europe whose IQ is in the genius level, but he can hardly write a decent paragraph in English. In fact, if I had to list the top three most intelligent friends I have/had one of them would have to be a friend of mine who dropped school at 9th grade, joined Jebha, and never went back to school to this day.

          • Peace!

            Hi Horizon,
            Actually you are good on making your point clear and precise. The only weakness I have noticed is that you care more for Eritreans than Oromo Ethiopians. It is ironic given, per your claim, you are a proud Ethiopian.
            Peace!

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selam brother peace!

            My up vote is for your first sentence only.

            See what you have done to me Abraham H!

          • Peace!

            Hi Fantish,
            Come on! partial up vote wasn’t on your list, at least the last time I checked:)
            Peace!

          • Abraham H.

            Selam Fanti, I now know your upvoting practice, so nothing to worry about my scrutiny any longer:-)

          • Selam Peace,
            C’mon, you are giving a nationalistic tone to my ethiopiawinet, when you say a ‘proud ethiopian’. I have no reason to be proud or to be ashamed, for all nations are equal. Do you think that I will have a problem if I were born a kenyan, for example? Not me. The point is that I am a human being born in a land that is politically designated as ethiopia, yours as eritrea, etc. We inhabit the same planet earth, just a piece of it. Why should anybody then be proud or ashamed?
            You say that I care less for oromos. Have I shown any sign for that. I am for the democratic rights and equality of all ethiopian social groups. The last deaths in oromia and amhara were condemned by all ethiopians, and of course by me.
            If I speak of the eritrean people sometimes, it is because whether you and I like it or not, we are going to live side by side forever, and it is better that it is in peace. Unfortunately, with dia around it is not going to be.

          • Peace!

            HI HORIZON,
            Agreed. I was not trying to imply by any stretch that you do not condemn the ongoing killing rather I was saying you seem to have more passion when you condemning DIA, Arabs and Musllims.
            Peace!

          • Salam Peace,
            You are misquoting me again. I have no problem with the Arab people, but with Arab governments, past and present, except the few. Their impact on Ethiopia has always been negative. You forgot that about 35%of the ethiopian population are Muslims, and I have no reason whatsoever to condemn Muslims. DIA, that is another story. I thought you too condemn him for his negative role in the region, especially in eritrea.

          • Abraham H.

            Hello Horizon, If I’m not mistaken under the HS and Derg there was this wrong impression created in the world opinion that portrayed Ethiopia as a Christian country, despite the fact you just stated that 35% of the population is indeed Moslem. Do you agree with what I’m trying to say, if so, why do you think that kind of policy was pursued by those regimes?

          • Selam Abraham H.,
            In Ethiopia the church and the state were separated with the coming of the derg, and the two main religions were equal and religious freedom was declared in the constitution. Nevertheless, this did not change the opinion of the radical arab states towards ethiopia. Even under HS there was inequality between the two religions, because Christianity was the religion of the palace and the majority of the population, and yet i doubt that religious persecution ever existed.
            The reason these regimes were against ethiopia was due to religious and geopolitical reasons, going back ages. Religion may be important to them but not to ethiopia, for muslims lived in ethiopia and practised their religion without any problem.
            This is a very broad subject and opening a discussion on religion in ethiopia will have many ramifications with no end to it.

          • Abraham H.

            Selam Horizon, you’ve not answered my question, but that is ok if you don’t want to.

          • Selam Abraham H.,

            I will try to answer your question, unfortunately with the danger of repeating myself. Christianity was the state-religion during and before HS’s rule. With the coming of the derg state and religion were separated in 1974, and both main religions were declared equal under the law. Ethiopia could be a christian majority country, but she was no more called a christian country by the ethiopian government. I think that the derg tried to show this in practice, by having both religious leaders in prominent places beside higher derg officials during celebrations. Nevertheless, this did not change the policy of radical arab governments towards ethiopia. That is why I said that religion was not the only reason, and geopolitical interests were also very important.

            Now, despite the fact that the the two main religions are on equal status, if the world opinion continued to see ethiopia as a christian country, that is something beyond the control of ethiopia. I think that even today there are people (especially in the west), who see ethiopia as a christian majority country. Nevertheless, what matters most is how the ethiopian government and constitution sees religion within ethiopia. if radical governments want to exploit religion, it is not difficult to do so.
            (sorry, i can’t do any better. may be i have not understood your question).

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Horizon,

            I totally agree with what you elaborated with a little info that you have to consider.

            A political system that went for centuries would not be easily corrected only by the factors that you mentioned. Though the equality of the two religions has improved drastically starting from the Derg, and is still being improved by the government, the established popular and religious culture has lagged behind.

            Generally, there is little distinction between Arabs and Muslims in the psyche of the general populace–and this can only be corrected through curriculum, arts, and general public activities. Corrections limited to the supra-structure of the state alone will not complete the job.

            I have seen many Ethiopians (scholars at that) who believe the lingering Nile politics between Ethiopia and Egypt is laboriously put in a religious mold when it was not and is not. Egypt expanding religions to Ethiopia is a totally misinformed explanation. Let alone Egypt, even Saudi Arabia will not do it at the state level.

            Second, Egypt of Gemal Abdenasser was left leaning, close to the socialist camp though it is the co-founder of the non-aligned movement. Progressive forces and leaders, starting from Mandella, to Che Guvera made the pilgrimage to Cairo because of its anti-colonial stand and support for the liberation movements. Many were so much inspired by Egypt in their struggle against colonialism. However, still, many Ethiopians consider Nasser an Islamist though he cleansed Egypt of the most influential Islamist groups, particularly the Muslim Brotherhood who were destroyed by Nasser it took them five decades to reappear as a formidable force during the last election after the Arab spring. They were crushed in less than a year and their leaders, including Mursi, the ex-president, are in jail. Egypt as an Islamist country exists only in the minds of the uninformed elite.

            In short, it would be nice if people framed the differences along geo-political, and economic lines instead of going for the lazy explanation and going for religious (Islam) and racial (Arab) framing. I believe a few Ethiopian elite need to recognize that and update their information. The general public consumes what it is fed by the elite and the government.

          • Paulos

            Selam SGJ,

            My understanding is that the whole notion of Ethiopia being a Christian nation started to take hold through the legends of Prester John when the Portuguese who reigned over the oceans back then assumed that he was residing in Ethiopia. And this acute sense of curiosity took a life of its own where it eventually became an obsession to find him in an equal footing when the same level of curiosity pervaded to seek the source of the Nile (read: David Livingston).

            That said, the relationship between Ethiopia and Egypt is shaped up by the Nile if I have to state the obvious but what is remarkable is that, in a typical realistic geopolitical take, Ethiopian leaders particularly the elites geared up their policy towards Egypt’s either real or presumed threat to the extent of training the foreign ministry personalities in Addis were made to study in Egypt so that they would have a better grasp of Egypt’s psych if you will. To be more precise, Aklilu Habteweld and his brother Akale Habteweld were educated in Cairo who later on the former occupied the Ministry of Foreign Affairs for years.

            The dynamics and how much Egypt had taken the center stage in Ethiopia’s foreign policy can be understood when one examines the rocky and at times nasty relationship between Aklilu Habteweld and Ras Asrate Kassa. When Aklilu hailed from a modest family with a humble beginning, Asrate hailed from the lineage of the aristocracy. As they both competed with the sense of fierceness to win the King’s ear, the animosity started to take an ugly turn when the Eritrean question became prominent particularly in the late 60s during the Arab-Israeli war. The fact that Asrate was in Eritrea, he advised the King to give his support to Israel so that the “separatist” groups in Eritrea can be countered as they were backed by the Arab countries including Egypt. On the other hand, Aklilu opted and advised the King to support Egypt instead so that Egypt won’t give a helping hand to Eritrean separatist movements. And of course in our time as well Nile politics has preoccupied Ethiopia’s foreign policy with other actor-nations in between where Eritrea comes to mind.

          • Saleh Johar

            Thanks Paulos,
            And of course, pro -Israel or pro-Arab was decided on the misconception that Arabs are Muslims (the commandos saga) and Israel represented “Zion”. But Egypt was instrumental in supporting Haile Sellassie concerning the African Union.

            In regards to education, Egypt was the most developed country back then for Africans who went for higher education. South Africa was a no-go land for Africans. Eritreans sought education in Egypt long before Eritrea was created.
            Thanks for rejoinder.

          • Paulos

            Selam SGJ,

            Here is an interesting piece of history worth noting which I think is relevant to the issue at hand. It was an established fact that Ethiopia was perceived as a Christian nation and the notion was internalized with in the succeeding rulers including Emperor Tewodros as well.

            During the Cremean War which lasted for three years between 1853-1856, typical of Realpolitik modus operandi, Great Britain and France backed and supported the Ottoman Empire against Russia. This kind of geopolitical dynamics calculated solely on pragmatic bases puzzled Emperor Tewodros when two Christian nations supported a Muslim nation against a Christian nation. Of course, it can be safely said that, the “Ballance of Power” that had been the guiding principle in Europe since the “Treaty of Westphalia” hadn’t been reflected to the very least on Tewodros’ world view.

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Paulos,
            What a coincidence! I am reading a book that has taken me the longest to finish since I started to read books–three months and I am still on page 470. I have 118 pages to go. It is called “A Peace to End All Peace”. Well written and very detailed–it is about the WW1 politics, the creation of Zionism and Israel, the fall of the Ottoman Empire, the alignment and re-alignment of European powers–and it was all about having an uninterrupted land road from Egypt through Palestine, the Levant, to Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, to India for the benefit of the British Empire and how the French wanted to control the Eastern Mediterranean shores. I hated colonialism, but now I hate it with passion. It was a lot of mischievous politics, so many dummies in the playground, and shifting loyalties. I highly recommend it to anyone interested in history and politics.

            Tedros was a born brute. The guy has no idea what was going on in the region and has no clue about diplomacy and statesmanship. Incidentally, Haile Sellassie never liked Tedros who was hardly mentioned until the early 1960’s when some scholars (I guess the Pankhursts) advised and convinced him to use Tedros’ history as a uniting inspiration for Ethiopians. The king reluctantly agreed to rehabilitate the old “Kosso Shach Lij” and recreate him as an Ethiopian icon. I chuckle whenever I see the inflated chest chants lionizing Tedros. But people are generally innocent (naive?)–just like the colonizers played the people, local leaders do the same by copying the play book.

          • Paulos

            Selam SGJ,

            It sounds an interesting book. Thank you. I will check it out.

          • Abraham H.

            Dear Horizon, thanks for taking your time to explain my question. The fact that Ethiopia is a Christian majority is undisputable, but during the HS and those regimes before him, Ethiopia was portrayed as a Christian country, denying the presence of 35% Moslems, a deliberate policy designed to win the sympathy of the Westerners. HS had tried to erase the Moslems from the Ethiopian map, in similar fashion as he did with the existence of Eritrea.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Horizon; you a funny man. now you know why Amanual H jumps to defend you. My advice to you is, take care your house first. clean your house first. You are here telling us about PIA day and night while dead midget left your country in absolute chaos. Eritrea is fine, she is going like every growing pains developmental states go through. To your credit, you are the only one to mumble about your weyane massacring while the cowards the likes of Abi and Amde kissing the behind of the killer weyane. my point is, you should care more about your country and the killer of your people.
            although it was disheartening to hear you say, you rather have fake constitution and rigged election than none at all. this shows your character and the stand to what is the truth and what is right. You guess it, my respect for PIA is that he is not in deceiving his people and doing what is right. You should do the same, stand for the truth and what is real.

          • Abi

            General Nitricc
            I see 32 canines.

          • Nitricc

            Hey Abi, on this subject, i wish i had 64 canines not only to show but bite. You keep telling us that you are proud Gondere but when the people of Gonder are massacred by your corrupted and weayne thugs; you never uttered a word of support and sympathy to the people of Gonder. all you have done is encourage the lowly weyane and kiss their behind at the expenses of your people. That my friend, will never stand for me. you are more interested defending the the thug kind and the murderous derg. What i am questioning is your character as well as your value. weather you stoood or not with oppressed people, they will prevail and you shall live in shame and agony. toothless.

          • Abi

            General Nitricc
            ሚሊሽያ ወታደር ንትርክ
            I delegated you to bite woyane for me.
            ጥርስህ ምን ሰርቶ ይብላ?

          • GitSAtSE

            Abi,

            አንታ ጸማም ቆራጽ አዝኑ ዘማች ሓባጥ አግሪ
            ደርሆ ማይ አሳ የበሃር ኣውደ ኣመትኩም ኣኽብሩ።

            አጅህን ወደላይ ለማድረግ አንድትቆርጦው።

            ጻጸ Solo7

          • Abraham H.

            Hi Aman, that was meant as a cheap attack from the side of BA, I think.

          • Abi

            Hi Blue
            Only a patient from a psychiatry ward compares Horizon with a high school student. Only a delusional person thinks changing his name means changing his old behavior. Only a dead Snake wishes to be a bird flying in the Blue sky if only it shades its old skin.
            Do you up vote yourself?

          • Blue Asmara

            Salam Abi. It is truly admirable to see Ethiopians like youself populating Eritrean websites and pooling together to protect their T-TPLF kin. As they say ‘birds of a feather flock together’

          • Abi

            Hi Blue
            Funny you complain why the Ethiopians are here? I’m thinking are you commenting from Addis your second home?
            I’m sure you hide your double tongues in front of a TPLF custom official at Bole Airport.

          • Blue Asmara

            Salam Abi. Even if Addis Ababa were my second home, should that be a problem? Do ALL Ethiopians HAVE to support the Government? I mean, since you do not support Trump, does that mean that you have to keep you mouth shut to still be considered as an American?

          • Abi

            Hi Blue
            There is no problem if you reside in Menelik Palace much less in the whole wide city. I never complained before. Actually, I suggested the best Italian restaurant in the city. Of course your memory as a Snake has been erased with your nick.
            Funny you came back with new nick and pretended as a new student.
            Your credibility is below zero.

            Did I tell you that I don’t support Trump? I never discussed Trump with the Old Snake or with the New You.

          • Haile S.

            Hi Blue Asmara,
            You jumped quickly to Schopenhauer’s ultime strategem, argumentum ad personam. You had 37 other possible strategems to make your argument right. By doing this you are removing weight from your arguments.
            Haile S.

          • Blue Asmara

            Thanks Haile S. for your comment. However, one simply cannot argue with a broken record that is T-TPLF programmed to repeat the same message.

          • Haile S.

            ሰላም ሰማያዊ
            ከብቲ ኢሞ ወሲዶመን ጸርፊ ግን ዝሓደግናሎም የብልናን ኢንዲኻ ጌርካዮ ኣንታ ሓወይ!

          • Nitricc

            hey Haile, do you know who made that reference more often? Haile TG. Haile S. lol have great day sir. lol

          • Haile S.

            Hi Nitricc,
            Désolé! No Eureka for you today if you are implying I am Haile TG. Thank you for the complement anyway. Bon nuit ou bonne journée depending on you are.

          • Paulos

            Selam Haile,

            Perhaps the philosopher you cited among other things is known for his fixated view on the half-empty-bottle (read: father of melancholic pessimism). That said, the question I posed to Awatistas was if there is any subject or issue that we never touched on and the guy who is a broken record par-excellence jumped on to the half-empty-bottle of TPLF. I say, it is not worth your time much less to engage him on a yawning diatribe.

          • Haile S.

            Hi Paulos,
            I haven’t read that book. Is it a book BTW? Coincidentally, I am into the so catagorized pessimistic philisophers. I am an adept of Emile Cioran, the ‘pessimist’ par excellence. Concerning you original question, I was derailed by Xaxe’s long hateta. I need to come back later.

          • Paulos

            Selam Haile,

            No it is not a book. For some reason I have a habit of saying “read” when I want to make extra clarification. For instance, if I say one of the funniest Awatistas, I add (read: Abi).

            Schopenhauer is known for his extreme and dark view of life where it later turned into bitterness when he was passed on by Nitzsche as the latter presided over an academic chair that was once held by Hegel. The two were bitter rivals to the end. When humanity was Nitzsche’s hero for putting up with life, for Schopenhauer on the other hand, Will was humanity’s enemy for he thought the only salvation is for humanity to give up the Will. Schopenhauer was influenced by the Eastern philosophy as he spent time in India when he was younger.

            I am not familiar with Emile Cioran but would love to know more about his/her work.

          • Haile S.

            Hi Paulos,
            Cioran was a French philosopher of Romanian origin. His writing reveals that he was highly influenced by the German philosophers before him among others Schopenhauer or french philosophers like St Simon and Tocqueville, but he has a unique and original way of presenting his thought. I let you judge by yourself. I recommend you start with his book ‘La tentation d’exister’ translated into ‘temptations to exist’. If you live around New York or go there one day and visit the MoMA,there is a hand written translation of a chapter from that book entitled ‘On some blind alleys’ ‘Lettre sur quelques impasse’ in French, displayed in the written material section, I believe, if I remember correctly. I read all Cioran’s books and when I visited NY/MoMA, I was surprisingly delighted to find one of my favorite chapters displayed there.
            On your question on things not covered by Awate; hard to say, I don’t think there is anything under-discussed if we are talking about the most important things concerning Eritrea. Many things have been touched through major articles or through comments. Due to the strong bitterness that exists certain subjects may not have been discussed as necessary or may have been diluted or diverted, but admittedly it is not easy for me to pinpoint while I have been an observer on the fridge of the dedicated. What remain for me is at least is to encourage Awate team and its followers on what it does or when possible to come out of the permanently ruminating silence characteristic of many of us, join and implement in deed its 4 moto reconcile, inform, inspire and embolden.

          • Paulos

            Selam Haile,

            Beautifully said! Will definitely check his works out. Again thank you.

          • Paulos

            Selam Haile,

            As it happens, I just finished reading some of the critical reviews on his works and I must say, his works or should I say his philosophical underpinnings are more in tune with Nitzsche as opposed to Schopenhauer. More over, he seems to belong to Existentialism as he seems to have been influenced by Kirkgaard, Dostoevsky and others before him. This particular quote really hit me when he said, “When a nation begins to show its age, it orients itself with the condition of the masses.” I already love this guy. Thank you again.

          • Haile S.

            Hi Paulos,
            You are welcome. You are right, though he was critical of Nietzsche, was admirative of Kierkegaard and Dostoevsky. In the same line you mentioned he says talking about France, the wrinkles of a nation are as visible as that of individuals and continues…when a nation has gone through a grand revolution, it will be difficult to repeat another of the same breadth…something to learn from. Have fun.
            Haile S.

          • Paulos

            Selam Haile,

            I forgot to mention something and maybe Fantination, Amde, Horizon and Abi may have an in depth say about this: As I was reading the reviews and condensed version of his works, Abie Gubegna came to mind where his nihilistic take about life in general is beautifully argued in his otherwise tour de force novel “Al’weled’m.” One wonders if Abie was familiar with Emile’s works.

          • Haile S.

            Hi Paulos,
            Abe-G was a great author muddied by the Derg; don’t know about veracity of what they reproached him. His book Kokeb QoTari in poem was a text book for Amharic when I was 7th or 8th grade. Kokeb QoTari was an excruciating book that I remember the pain I was feeling, but no detail. Another of his book the savage girl in English was my English teacher’s favorite book. That teacher had a characteristic voice of Donald Sutherland. But don’t remember a lot of details of both books. It was a revolution time; we were going out of class in solidarity with our secondary school brothers and sisters who revolted against the new fee imposed to attend the 12th grade matriculation exam or the entry to the university. Unfortunately both books that I had with many others may have passed under the traditional over (mogogo) to make some Injera during the 2 weeks of war in Asmara in 1975, the ‘tog tog’ that Tzegereda talked about a while ago.

          • Abi

            Selam Haile
            What is this ?
            የአዛውንቶች ክበብ?
            From now on I call you Gashe Haile.
            ( እኔ ቢጫ ሳራ እርስዎ ቢጫ ይጠጡ ነበር)

            I think Abe Gobegna was exiled by the King. Now I have to read the book again in light of your discussions.
            Lucky my friend has the book.

          • Haile S.

            Hi ኣባ ትንሹ፡
            Well said, laughed a lot, during my dream too. I prefer ኣባ ትልቁ and you ኣባ ትንሹ a la Gojamie, similar to ኣቦይ ዓቢ and ኣቦይ ንኡስ used in certain parts of Eritrea.
            From yazmariw kignit:
            አነ ማቱሳላ አግዜር ቢያድላቸው
            ጎረምሶች ተባሉ ባ500 ዕድሜቸው
            አኔ አንዲሁ….(inaudible) ሳላይ
            ጃጅተሃል ይሉኛል ባፍላው ዘጠናየ:)

          • GitSAtSE

            ጋሽ እቢነት፡

            ለምን ጣላ ቢት ኩ ክላትስ ክላን ዛሬ ኣብረን ኣንጠጣ?

            ጉራዴ ኣየስፈልግህም

            ጉንዳን ጻጸ 45 ፕይንትስ ሊሚት ነው ብቅሌኝ ታስፈልግኝ።

            ጉንዳን ጻጸ

          • Paulos

            Selam Haile,

            The—using the books to cook food is a sad reminder of the ugly era where we equally do not draw comfort in PFDJ’s Eritrea either.

            Abie Gubegna’s death was tragic in the sense that, he returned back from abroad to be part of the Ethiopian revolution but later on he got disillusioned by the fatal bitterness between the political factions. I think he died of sadness and mental anguish if I am not mistaken.

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello Paulos,

            Wow! Al’weledm is my generation book. This week has been a week of flashbacks for me. I was an early bloomer, but anyone who was 3+ older than I talked about that book so much that I believe it was one of the few books that contributed to the eventual revolution. First published 1962, it has been re-printed for the fifth time in 2007. Abe was never afraid of the government, and he didn’t go around the bushes; he spoke his mind in that book. The full title of the book is “እውነት በሌለበት ዓለም አልወለድም”

            I have the book in case you need a refresher someday.

          • Paulos

            Selam Fantination,

            When I first went to Addis in the late 80s, I remember buying two books in Amharic from street vendors. Alweledim and k’Admas Bashager by Ba’alu Girma. I remember I was profoundly touched by Abie’s philosophical acumen and equally enjoyed Girma’s book as well where the plot is about two Ethiopians who returned to Ethiopia for good but encountered some sort of difficulty when they tried to adopt to the new socio-political realities.

          • Abi

            Paul
            ” በዚህ አለም አንዱ ለሌላው መሰላል ነው:: እና እላይ ለመድረስ የሚችሉት የተለየ ስጦታ ሊኖራቸው ይገባል:: እንደኔና እንዳንተ ዘወትር ህሊና ፣ህሊና እያሉ እራሳቸውን የሚያታልሉት ግን እርካብ ሆነው ነው የሚቀሩት:: ጥንትም እንዲህ ነበር፣ አሁንም ተፈጥሮ ህጏን አልቀየረችም::
            This is from the conversation between the two friends. I might left out some minor things. I read it when I was in high school. I always remember it.
            RIP.

          • GitSAtSE

            Paul,

            Knock knock. It is I Presiden of Somalia Abdulahi “frmajo” Mohamed.

            Saay7 and Camus need to have a philosophical conversation about alweledm.
            Philosophy Morpheous come on dude. Sra mn yadrigal.

            Philosopy is where its at!
            tSAtSe

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Paulos,

            The quotation you quoted is similar to what Lenin has said about leadership. Since I do not remember exactly his wording let me paraphrase it; If the mass are ahead of the leadership, the leadership must listen the mass. Your exchange with Haile is enjoyable. Keep up.

            Regards

          • Paulos

            Selam Emma,

            Lenin was not of course a philosopher nor was his political ideologue where Karl Marx seemed to have an aversion to philosophy when he famously said, “Philosophers may have interpreted the world, the point is however to change it.” You can see the pragmatic view they employed where any sense of idealism was taken a luxury afforded by the elites.

            In a parallel universe, a company of philosophers where Nietzsche was the most notable–focused more on the individual-hero where the masses are taken for “herds” as they try to weaken the individual-hero by inventing moral codes (read: the teachings of Socrates all the way to Christianity). Nietzsche even went as far as lambasting the critical discoveries and inventions of science as products of the “weak” where according to him true achievement is preserving honor, valor, earning respect in a world replete with all against all. Again, one can see that, Nietzsche and Emile to the very least light years apart in their views about society and its actors when compared with Lenin, Trotsky and others.

          • Abi

            Hi Paul
            I disliked my philosophy class so much the only thing I remember is the ” debate ” between God and Nietzsche.
            “God is dead” (Nietzsche,1883)
            “Nietzsche is dead.” (God , 1900)
            Talk about one liner.

          • Paulos

            Abisensation,

            Wish I could get back in time and sign up for philosophy courses. That said, do you remember this love story novel titled: “Sememen”? The plot was about this sophomore guy named Abel who had a crash on this girl in campus. He was a brilliant philosophy major who later had a nervous breakdown because of the girl. I remember the book was very popular in Asmara. The setting was at Asmara U.

          • Abi

            Paul
            I remember every word from that book! Are you kidding me? The setting was at AAU main campus ( 6 killo).

          • Paulos

            Abisensation,

            I thought so for you and I are the same age. Ma bad I thought it was at Asmara U. Maybe the author attended Asmara U.

          • Abi

            Paul
            You know what just happened right now? The Snake is shading his skin!!! He is busy deleting his comments. I blame it on Haftina Abrehet. She just ripped him apart. Now he is running away for his life. He is hiding under the Landcruiser.
            I can’t wait to see his new nick. Can you guess?

          • GitSAtSE

            Abi,

            Do not be afraid, I AM The God of Your Fathers. I will give you the Dula, Take this Dula to ፍርኦ፡ ኣንድ as you will not need to go to the Sea to cast a net for your daily fish., This Dula will shed it’d rind and you will be a fisher of man. The ፍሮኦን will see the Snake that feasts on the apple orchards and HIM will know

          • Amde

            Abi, Paulos

            I believe the author was either faculty or a student at Asmara U.

            Paulos, “Sememen” was quite popular in Addis as well. One reason being it was simply a story of love and obsession – not ideological or nationalistic.

            I am intrigued when you say it was popular in Asmara. These were the years after Red Terror and when the weight of the military push in Eritrea was rather heavy. I am curious how Amharic literature was received in the Eritrea of that time.

            Amde

          • Paulos

            Selam Amde,

            That is a good question. When “Sememen” came out I was in high school. That said, Dergue declared a psychological war-tactics which I think was effective particularly in Asmara. The shift in strategy was said to have been crafted by Dawit Weldegiorgis as he was the head of as in governor of Eritrea. He allowed bicycles to be used; he loosened up the restriction of movements of people out of Asmara; he extended curfew to midnight which had been 6 P.M. That sense of lax atmosphere gave the people a semblance of freedom and I am sure it made EPLF nervous. Again, the ease to speak Amharic including listening to Amharic music and reading Amharic books was pretty common particularly in Asmara.

          • Amde

            Selam Paulos,

            It was said that Dawit’s success in Asmara was the reason Mengistu pulled him back to Addis. Namely jealousy. And ultimately the reason Dawit left.

            One aspect of the Derg era was the competition and jealousy between the Holeta and Harar graduate officers. Holeta graduates generally started off as privates and NCOs, before entering formal two year officer training school. Harar graduates were selected for their high school academic achievement and went straight to a three year officer training with the additional year qualifying them to automatic sophomore status at university. When they graduated as First Lieutenants, they were paid at 12+3 rate. When Holeta students graduated as First Lieutenants,they were paid at 12+2 (I think). As you can imagine, this bred resentment. Some people are absolutely cinvinced this was the spark that lit up rebellion in Mengistu.

            Mengistu and most of the people around him were Holetans. Dawit and Goshu Wolde (former FM) were probably the only Harar graduates in the upper echelon of the military government. Both Dawit and Goshu earned graduate degreees in the US prior to the revolution. For the life of me, I don’t know if Mengistu even had a college degree.

            One of the things I admire about Weyane is how they have managed to thread the needle of having competent military officer corps without these types of clashes.

            In any case…interesting… normalcy in Asmara triggered the latent personal and institutional jealousies of Mengistu and his immediate crowd.

            Thanks for the insight.

            Amde

          • Paulos

            Selam Amde,

            One of the supporting arguments that debunks if Mengistu hailed from aristocratic family is the fact that, if he was, he would have attended Harer but he attended Holeta instead.

            The tension as you said it between Dawit and his elks for lack of a better word and Mengistu seemed to have a psychological angle to it. Paul Henze in his book, “Layers of Time” a book about Ethiopian history mentions something interesting about the psychological profile of Mengistu if you will. He writes, Mengistu occasionally used to complain to African leaders in different occasions where he felt an outsider among the elites (read: Dawit and others) because of his looks where Paul Henze seems to allude that Mengistu was looking for sympathy from the African leaders. If the sense of cruel tendency that was displayed by Mengistu towards his enemies has anything to do with the supposed inferiority complex, he is in the company of Stalin among others where the latter was physically challenged. Stalin’s right hand was “crooked.”

          • Amde

            Selam Paulos,

            Mengistu was raised by an aunt (not his mother or father) who made sure to let him know he was not desired in so many ways. This I got from someone who is related to him. The personal resentment angle is quite real and deep – it is not just a matter of education/going to the right schools. The comparison to Stain is quite astute.

            He would not have attended Harer unless he was academically gifted/prepared – it was not an aristocracy thing. But the Holetan resentment was quite real, and he rode it to power.

            In this light, whereas Stalin and Mengistu have stories of childhood rejection and resentment, it is doubly puzzling where Isayyas’ sociopathy comes from. As far as I can gather, he could claim association to the aristocratic elite of the time. Whatever the seed of his sociopathy, it is a mystery.

            Be kind to children – you may stop a budding dictator in his track.

            Amde

          • Paulos

            Selam Amde,

            Thank you for the interesting insight. As much as Isaias remains enigmatic, those who are close to him may know more including his wife. As the French say it, cherchez la femme.

          • Legacy

            Hi Amde,

            I did get a chance to read Fikresilasse Wogederess’ account of the revolution, ‘Egna’na Abyotu.’ What I gathered from this book was that Mengistu was very successful because of ONE thing and that one thing was his appreciation of the importance of ‘minutes keeping.’ As much as it sounds elementary to us today, apparently, it did not seem that obvious to the early members of Derg’s Cetral Committee. According to Fikresilasse, no records of either contents discussed or even a simple thing as attendance were kept in the early days of the committee .It was Mengistu who came up with the idea of ‘minutes keeping’ which helped them streamline their manifesto at the same time as keeping tab of members.

            Granted that this is an account from a fellow comrade but this revelation did make me look at his organizational caliber in a different light.

          • Amde

            Selam Yoty Topy,

            If FqreSellasie after 20 years of imprisonment with nothing to do but reflect on his years with Mengistu comes up with keeping minutes as the secret of Mengistu’s success, that is rather sad. Mengistu was a trained logistics officer, and if there is one thing logistics people do, it is keep records. Most of the Derg were really way out of their capabilities from the get go. Easy prey for Mengistu. One moment they were loudmouth corporals and sergeants, the next they are making government decisions.

            Lenin and Trotsky thought nothing of Stalin, who had the title of General Secretary, which when the position was created, was supposed to just be glorified clerical work. Stalin understood the position for the organizational nerve center that it was, and he used it accordingly. It is quite possible he had Lenin killed (Lenin had written a letter warning his colleagues about Stalin whuch they never got to read because Stalin intercepted it.) He definitely had Trotsky assasinated.

            These guys (dictators) are bright, ruthless, hold a grudge and have a talent for keeping the status of political networks and individuals in their head. That is what makes them dangerous.

            At least the ex Derg people are writing their memoirs. We could hopefully learn something from them.

            Amde

          • Abraham H.

            Hi Amde, add to your explantion that Mengistu was also exposed to a very bad racism when he was sent to the US to attend military training, I read that somewhere, and that he was very insecure about his looks.

          • Amde

            Selam Abraham,

            I agree with your characterisation of Mengistu.

            And I think Isayas’ frustration of being in charge of an entity too small for his ambitions has a lot of exolanatory power as they say.

            Witjin Eritrean society though, is being called “Agame” both a necessary and sufficient condition for making him the sociopath he has turned out to be. In Addis, the term Agame is completely meaningless.

            The Isayas biography would really be a fascinating study.

            Amde

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Paulos, Amde and Abi,

            Paulo when you said you were in high school when space 99 was on TV, I had suspected you were one of the brainy guys from S. Ana. Now you mentioned senemen, I can pretty much guess you were.

            I just want to add when shaleqa Dawit was governor in Eritrea, the political atmosphere also changed dramatically. I don’t know what exactly was but he let many considered political prisoners out of jail. There was something seminars all over the city “tegaleSu, tegaleTu), something like “public confession”, broadcasted on radio on their Random killing almost stopped totally

          • Amde

            Selam Berhe, Paulos,

            You both paint a picture of where Dawit’s policies made at least Asmara potentially politically winnable for the Derg. Do you know if these policies were just in Asmara or were they implemented in other towns? How successful were they outside of Asmara?

            Amde

          • Berhe Y

            Selam Amde,

            In Asmara for sure it made a big difference. My simple example is, in the high school that I was, I know only 1 person who joined eplf, and that’s after the 6th offence, may be after Dawit left.

            I don’t know much about the lowlands, but I think since the war was there, and may be under the control of EPLF may be it didn’t make a difference .

            I think the Derg had huge support within Kunama population. I remember when EPLF got hold of, a lot of residents from Barentu come to Asmara, I think to escape from EPLF. I don’t know how many but a lot they have them a camp, may be it was expo.

            In the villages, as some people had already said, the were taking people by force to recruit them. My cousin who was a farmer was taken by force and defected / wedo geba, then he went back to his farm and he was caught again and he defected again.

            The EPLF cadres were very cruel where ever they went. And a lot of people / those villagers say, “after the people of Asmara tasted their cruelty, its new for the residents of Asmara, but we knew these guys long ago when they were in the field”.

            Berhe

          • Amde

            Thank you Berhe,

            Sounds to me like it was probably better for Dawit’s sake that he left Asmara. EPLF might have been forced to take action. Amazing the difference one person can make.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Amde,

            Funny thing, after Dawit defected he was collaborating with EPLF to remove the Derg and bring some sort of agreement. When there was a coup attempt in 88 I think, EPLF declared unilateral cease fire so they can gain control (it failed). I think the EPLF plan with Dawit, I think drive the TPLF crazy and they stop talking, may be they felt they will be left out.

            He also wrote in his book, how Isayas told him, how it was really hard it become for EPLF when he was the governor.

            Berhe

          • Amde

            Selam Berhe,

            You know, the fact that just one person’s policies could make such a difference just speaks to how deaf the Ethiopian side must have been.

            There was a recent interview I heard of his, where he says Ethiopia is the country that has the largest number of liberation fronts / groups. He said this pointed to a social/cultural problem of working together/accommodation. Groups mushroom, instead of slowly coming together over time. Sounds familiar? It was an interesting insight.

            Many thanks

            Amde

          • Paulos

            Selam Berhe,

            I am not in anyway discounting the tremendous sucrifice the sons and daughters of Eritrea paid for independence but let me say this: the psychological war-tactics that was played out by the Dergue to normalize the situation particularly in Asmara was effective. But the timing was not right for the military junta, that is, it run out of luck when the collapse of Soviet Union—its sole backer came into effect and it subsequently weakened the Dergue’s political and military stand as well.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Paulos,

            I understand what you mean. But at the end of the day, people are people and majority people do look after themselves and their interests first.

            I don’t think Dawit’s method was phycological war-tactic, my guess is its geniuine. If I am not mistaken he was in Asmara during HS time and he knew the people well.

            Had the Derg continued with what Dawit was doing, I doubt the EPLF would got the total support it ended up getting.

            True the Derek lost support the soviet collapsed, but that was way after he left (1988/89), he was removed I think around 1984 during the famine.

            Amde, I thought Mengistu transferred Dawit because

            1) he wanted to crash the EPLF by force and Dawit did not agree.

            2) He wanted him to be the public image of the famine in order to gain support from the international community (his knowledge and his command of English).

            Berhe

          • Paulos

            Selam Berhe,

            Great points. I agree.

          • Amde

            Berhe,

            The OFFICIAL reasons for transferring Dawit were what you described.

            The fundamental problem with the Derg was that it was a military organization, so it looked at all problems with a military mindset. For a hammer, every problem looks like a nail. Here was Dawit providing a completely non-military solution, and it was not something the Derg could accept. It’s always hammer time for the Derg.

            The unofficial reasons were jealousy and paranoia. Just as Dawit was becoming popular with the Eritrean civilians, he was also quite popular with the Army deployed in Eritrea. So here was this guy, outside of Addis Ababa’s direct clutches, basically building what looks like a potential powerbase for himself. He did not have much of a support network in Addis. Remember Addis is top heavy with Holetans who did not care for the intellectual pretensions of the few Harer graduates among them. And that is just the military. The civilians in the top positions were ideologues who had survived the lefty-on-lefty civil war of the late 70s to early 80s. Those would be the kinds of ideologues who wanted to condemn Gorbachev’s perestroika – this apparently almost happened.

            The famine was indeed an emergency, but I am sure they could have found somebody else to take charge of it.

          • sara

            ya hala Mr puaulos
            i don’t know what to make out of your above comment, really amazing…. on one side you show recognition to eritrean sacrifice, on the other you are kind of praising the tactics made by Ethiopia to quell eritreans resistance in asmara, and you also think the fall is because of bad luck and collapse of the soviets, not Dergs weakness and our heroes efforts and sacrifices.

          • Abi

            Hi sara
            Your heroes won because Derg cut it’s right hand with it’s left.
            Your heroes failed you in the border war seven years after your heroic victory.
            Your heroes are the ones who are enslaving their own people. Hero? Really? How do you define a hero?
            Do you think PIA is a hero?
            Talk to me after your morning coffee.

          • Semere Tesfai

            Selam GuAd Abi

            1. – “Your heroes won because Derg cut it’s right hand with it’s left.”

            Last time I checked, the left hand that cut off the right hand was made in Eritrea. I hope you learned your lesson.

            2. – “Your heroes failed you in the border war seven years after your heroic victory.”

            No, they didn’t. They defended the land of the braves, its blue skies, and its beautiful ports successfully – against a foe twenty times their own size.

            SO…… WHAT DID ETHIOPIA GAIN AS THE RESULT OF THE “BORDER” WAR?

            3. – “Your heroes are the ones who are enslaving their own people”

            I guess its easy to say when you’re not the Amara, Oromo, Ethiopian Somali, Sidama…..

            Talk to me after your morning coffee.

            Semere Tesfai

          • Abi

            Selam ወንድም አማች
            I said ” talk to me after morning coffee ” not after happy hour.
            Your #2 answer included everything your heroes defended except the PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!
            Your #3 defending Ethiopians . Thanks.
            Your #1 is earth shattering!!!
            Left hand made in Eritrea!!!
            Left =ግራ
            ግራ ገብቶሀል በግራህ ተነስተህ
            አምላክ መሀሪ ነው በቀኙ ያውልህ

          • Semere Tesfai

            Selam ኣማችና ወንድም Abi

            1. – First thing first. Sorry for the bad timing, no harm intended to your happy hour.

            2. – “Left hand made in Eritrea!!!
            Left =ግራ
            ግራ ገብቶሀል በግራህ ተነስተህ
            አምላክ መሀሪ ነው በቀኙ ያውልህ”

            For seven long hours, I tied to comprehend the “ግራ” thing in your poem. with all the power of my brain (whisc is not much), I tried to fetch (decode) the ሰም from the ወርቅ or is it the ወርቅ from the ሰም – from deep under. Regrettably, to no avail. I don’t know if it is due to my poor English, my poor Amharic, or my low IQ (probably combination of all), but the whole thing ግራ ገብቶኝ: ተውኩት በቃ.

            But anyway, chasing our past was never a good idea to begin with. It doesn’t add any value to the lives of the two people who suffered the most. And what adds value?

            Tigre መጨፈር ይወዳል: ኣማራ ጥሬ ስጋና ቆንጆ ይወዳል. That is what we need to concentrate on – how to have a good time soon.

            Let’s use our brain power to plan, how to have a good time that we’ve never seen in a century. Litigating the past is a dead-end road that lead to nowhere

            Semere Tesfai

          • Abi

            እጅ እነሳለሁ ወንድም ታላቅ
            Well said. A minor correction if you don’t mind
            አማራ ቆንጆ ትግሬ ይወዳል

          • Semere Tesfai

            Selam Abi

            ብልጥ ኣማራ ግን: ትግሬዎች ኣስመራና ኣዲስ ኣበባ ሲገቡ: ቆንጆ ትግሬ ኣግብቶ – ኣማች ይላል ፥-)

          • Abi

            Hi Semere T
            አንተ እንደ ዝንጀሮ ተራራ ላይ ስትንጠላጠል የከተማ ጮሌ ዋንጫውን ወሰደብህ::

          • Semere Tesfai

            Selam Abi

            I guess I didn’t know any better – look how I’m struggling with my Amharic 🙂

            But hey, not all in vein. We’ve two handsome (from mom) and intelligent (ና ብልጥ from dad) young men who would be ambassadors to both people. And because of the power of their (your boys) intellect, and the intellect and goodwill of their cousins on the other side of the Mereb River, who knows where the two people would be xx years from now!!!

            It is getting late in my time zone. As always it was pleasure conversing with you, and thank you for all the respect. Good night.

            Semere Tesfai

          • Abi

            Hi Semere T
            You got everything right.
            Thanks. Good Night

          • Abraham H.

            Hello Abi, last time it was because the derg soldiers didn’t know what they were fighting for, now it is changed to the derg cut its right hand with its left, explanation needed.

          • Abi

            Hi Abraham
            Every mismanagement by the stupid derg is considered left hand cutting the right including sending the young to the war zone. How it difficult to understand?

          • Abraham H.

            Hi Abi, I thought you mentioned the fact that the derg soldiers didn’t know why they were fighting as a reason for the defeat of the derg. But how could you win a war without sending the young and able to the war zone? Or are you saying Ethiopia should never had tried to occupy Eritrea by force? In that case, I totally agree with your position.

          • sara

            Ato Abi,
            Com on , the whole world knows eritreans heroism, they changed the geopolitics of the horn and beyond.admit it Mr Abi..
            They brought independence to their people and helpd free hh our southern neighbors from

          • Paulos

            Selam Sara,

            What I am saying is that, the Front was lucky where had the collapse of Soviet Union differed, its success to materialize independence would have been dragged on.

          • Abraham H.

            Hello Paulos, you mentioned the support of the Soviet Union as a decisive factor to the survival of the Derg, a position which I concur with. What strikes me is could the Ethiopians ever managed to face the Eritreans without any external support? During the HS regime, it was the US and the West; during the Derg it was the Soviets and the Warsaw pact. Even during the border war of 1998-2000, it was reported the Ethiopians were recieving all sorts of support from the West, it was said they were diverting hundreds of millions of dollars they recieved as emergencey relief from hunger towards their military. This is not to imply that Eritreans are super humans, but it strikes me oftten this dependency of Ethiopia on foreign aid.

          • Paulos

            Selam Abraham,

            That is a great question. The Eritrean quest for independence was legitimate in the sense that it had the full backing of the Eritrean people which became the bulwark of any onslaught that was carried out by successive Ethiopian regimes. That said however, I am of the opinion that the military might of the Front including the social services* it dispensed to the people was hugely exaggerated to the point of turning into a myth. More over, in the final analysis, the two critical factors (read: the collapse of the Soviet Union and the support of TPLF) you mentioned made a huge impact in the realization of independence.

            *For instance the sophistication of the health facilities in Mieda was hugely exaggerated to say the least.

          • Abraham H.

            Hello Paulos, I’m not health professional, but I heard they were conducting bypass opperations in those underground ‘hospitals’ in meda; don’t you think this was an outstanding feat in those circumstances? How about facing an Army 20 times larger armed to its teeth with the modern weapons of that time?

          • Thomas

            Hi Abraham,

            I think the Ethiopians had hard time fighting in a Terran mountains and with the entire Eritrean people resisting their presence. Imagine when they cannot even identify their enemy and their friends. However, tegadelty had the support of almost the entire Eritrean people plus they took advantages of the hide outs of the Terran mountains, rivers, weather and most importantly the backing of the Eritrean people.

          • Abraham H.

            Selam Thomas, I agree with your take, all the factors you mentioned had contributed to the success of the EPLF. The people inside and outside of the coutry were determined for one purpose, get rid of the oppressive derg. Alas, had we had a fraction of that determination and unity of purpose today, the oppression of PFDJ might have not lasted for so long. But I think we’ve been pretty much exhausted after decades of war, in addtion to the divisive tactics of the pfdj that have yet proved to be successful.

          • Thomas

            Hi Abraham,

            Don’t start me with what is happening to our people after what we have gone through today as we speak by the backstabbers. None of us expected it and we are learning things like never to trust anyone. We trust them toooooooooooo much and we are paying for it. It is so painful and it hurts so bad.

          • Abi

            Tomi
            I feel your pain. Nothing hurts more than being betrayed.

          • Thomas

            Hi Abi,

            I like this internet technology that you cannot say family things with your door closed. Do you have to put a twist to what I wrote:)

          • Abi

            Tomi
            what’s up
            You feel betrayed because you invested a lot in the mass madness. I feel betrayed because I invested a lot in friends who Proved to be untrustworthy.

          • Thomas

            Hi Abi,

            Who would be those of your friends, my friend? Are you stating that the struggle to liberate my country was wrong? If yes, I respectfully reject that idea. Eritreans are betrayed by Dictator Issayas and his yes men not by those who died, paid with their limbs/eyes/ears and body to liberate. In short, we are very happy that our land is liberated and very unhappy that is now lead by the mafias and criminals. There is a big difference, Abi and I think you know it because you are very smart. I have read you for a while here and I am impressed your thought process. The only exception is that you like to challenge us and I think you are doing that purposely. You just like the reaction that is fired towards you:)

          • Abi

            Tomi
            No, not all of us are mortals. Blue Asmara is back from death. He scared the heck out of the funeral director. You are not paying attention.

            “እንደ ቆላ ወፍ እንደ ግሪሳ
            ያረፈው ልቤ ደግሞ ተነሳ!”

          • GitSAtSE

            AbAbi,Like the phoeni

          • Nitricc

            HEY Thomas: it is funny to read exchange of dumb and dumber. lol; so, What are you two doing to solve and free the so-called “suffering of your people”? Oh I get, Thomas is doing great job by organizing drinker’s get together in Columbus Ohio, Abraham is busy kissing the Ethiopians butt from London. I get it. Thomas just have a drink and shut it. lol you funny. when is the next drinking event? I got be there, what do you say lol. since when is drinking even considered fighting a dictator? lol oh my lord.

            Thomas: our people are suffering, yes our people are suffering

            Abraham. our people are suffering, yes our people are suffering

            Thomas: our people are suffering, yes our people are suffering

            Abraham. our people are suffering, yes our people are suffering

            Thomas: our people are suffering, yes our people are suffering

            Abraham. our people are suffering, yes our people are suffering

            that is how is going with two creatures. lol

          • Abi

            General Nitricc
            Thank you for the laugh. You are really funny.

          • Thomas

            Hi Nitricc,
            That is funny, but Jim Cary & PIA are very disappointed with you because you forgot to include yourself as dumbest one. PIA is as a lion of Nakfa doing this & that. He knows everything because he is not toothless. TPLF minority are killing the Oromos, Amharas & look at the cadavers. Yah, TPLF are in big trouble because PIA is right they are really really bad people……

          • Paulos

            Selam Abraham,

            Well, it is better to find out from the people who had a first hand experience as in who had seen it with their own eyes. I recommend you read a book by a surgeon-turned journalist, Jonathan Kaplan tittled: “The Dressing Station. A Chronicle of War and Medicine.”

          • MS

            Selam Paulosay

            Wound you mind telling us what your reference is in stating that “the sophistication of the health facilities in Mieda was hugely exaggerated to say the least.” What exactly is the exaggeration, and in relation to what?
            I do respect your reading of events, including your characterization that the “military might of the Front including the social services it dispensed to the people was hugely exaggerated to the point of turning into a myth.” However, I’m sure you expect to be challenged when you percolate your smooth conversations with those types of “opinions”. Now, would you tell us what’s the mythology that has been produced out of the experience of the humble Eritrean patriotic person(tegadalay and his people), who perished sustaining years of incessant assaults by the folks you want to canonize (HS, Dawit Weldegiorgis, et al)? What exactly is the myth? And to whom? The people who had close encounter with that experience, including some awatista around here, will tell you that they lived reality and not myth, but they would like to know if you can make any myth out of it.
            With due respect,
            Thank you.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear Abraham,

            Other than the resiliency of the Eritrean struggle, the Ethiopian internal resistances has contributed to the fall of the regime. The alliance of EPLF/TPLF is a good example that brought to the demise and disintegration of the derg army. Without that strategic alliance in the late 80s (both inside Eritrea and Ethiopia) it wouldn’t happen at that specific historical epoch. The common interest of EPLF and TPLF against derg has to do a lot to expediate the fall of the regime.

            Second the objective reality inside Ethiopia and Eritrea was matured for change, that no amount of help of modern armament from external forces will change the momentum and save the regime in Ethiopia. Indeed it was a very successful “strategic alliance” that should be hailed from both sides of the river that brought the fall of derg.

            Regards

          • Selam Abraham H.,

            Even if the soviets continued to pour weapons into ethiopia, the derg would have lost the war anyway, because it had lost the support of the great majority of the ethiopian people. At the beginning of the last war, ethiopia was literally defenseless, and yet tplf won the war, simply because ethiopians were ready to fight this time. Unlike the days of the guerilla warfare, Eritrea was armed with fighter airplanes, tanks and what not, and yet it lost the war.

            Therefore, you have got to examine the plethora of factors that played a role. The human factor was the beginning and the end, which the derg did not have on its side. This is true even today in the age of technological warfare.
            Fortunately, it is past history, and we will not be seeing again the pre-1991 period. This is the most important point.

          • GitSAtSE

            Pillar The Known,

            I am hearing Tokyo and “Hai Wakari Massen!”

            Agnieya Azilo40 Press.
            Wolverine X Vs. Buckeyes.. Rivalry is stoked at times like The British soccer hooligans Vs. Germany Two World Wars and …
            Now can you see what The Gentle Hypopotomus Mobee Dick The wale Robel was fed XIII Kilbasa Germen Sausages by UberThird in Brazil by Russians to,kill,3 birds with one Dngay utilizing ስፓትኒክ ፑሽክን ሓወልቲ
            The Three flying አሳ
            1. MY half brother Tokhrir Fanti Ghana– “How many Ethiopians can you fit in NY Taxi Cab? “I don’t know, throw a KFC chicken breast in, and lets see if they can all fit.” circa85 As an Ethiopian 9th Agniyeya Da Hood
            2. So that The FaderLand Uber humliate Brazil 7 goals to brazil -7 at home
            3. Set up the script for the next World Cup in Russia for Putin and Russia to do it themselves and check UberLand including Badume, SaHil, Dedebit, and Crimea make it difficult to even think,about building Blue Island Pool. 20M ስውኣት St. Petersburg Lennin Grad-V for Vendeta.

            Wolverine X, twisting tongs we the hybrids from polynissians are chiseling away at the..

            I wonder if Bannon and Dorhomayy Trump are going to boycot Puttins world cup.

            Ohio Guzaymas!
            ጻጸ Solo7

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Merhaba Paulosay,

            You say “Lenin was not a philospher”. No brother. If he wasn’t an “ideological philosopher”, the ideology in itself wouldn’t be called “Marxism Leninism”. Hisebelu de’a.

            Regards

          • Ismail AA

            Dear Aman and Paulos,
            The issue you are exchanging views on is, I think, profoundly debatable. The first question that comes to mind is: where do you draw the line between political-economic theory and pure philosophy? To lend to this reasonable thought one has to dig deeper before being able to draw conclusion.
            What I mean to say is that it can go both ways: Marx and Lenin underscoring the economic and political side of their philosophical approach while philosophers par excellence would tend to delve in argumentation about how far a theory is true or false.
            Any way, this is challenging matter.
            Regards to both of you.

          • Paulos

            Selam Ismail,

            You always come at the nick of time to snatch and save the otherwise engaging and intellectually stimulating issues from disappearing into convolution. Thank you Sir!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Merhaba Ismailo,

            For me, any descipline of knowledge that honors with the highest degree “Doctor of Philosophy (PhD)” is philosophy. Second, political and economic theory can be challenged, tested, and peer reviewed, as to whether it is true or not anytime, any place in the acadamic institutions. Where have you been buddy, where your inputs were expected in the chaotic debate.

            Regards

          • Ismail AA

            Ahlen Aman and Paulos,
            Have been preoccupied by private matters; but I have randomly been following the debates.
            Yes, Aman, rationalizing any discipline is philosophical in approach. But pure philosophy in my humble opinion understanding an idea to its reasonable conclusion.
            Paulos, thanks for the compliment; these matters trigger mental exercise.
            Regards

          • Paulos

            Selam Ismail,

            As Emma aptly put it, we are philosophical beings where we constantly try to put the things around us in a context to make a meaning of the situation we are in either through introspection, rationalization or intellectialization. That said however, we utilize the said modes more often sub-consciously as an immediate reaction when we are faced with alternative solutions for specific problems. Suppose you are coming to a stop on a red light, before you do that, your brain goes into execution mode as it analyses the cause and effect including the consequences of running a red light as well. Those kind of thought processes happen in a fraction of a second. That in itself is a philosophical exercise where everyone of us as Pavlov said it, life is a perpetual response to a stimulus.

            Not all of us however engage in metaphysical discourses as in ontological inquires of reality, being and becoming to understand or make sense or as you put it to come into a conclusion abut the fundamental questions of life. Sure enough the classical Greek thinkers debated about it if life is in a constant change as in “Becoming” or there is fundamental reality which is immutable as in “Being.” Kant made an effort to bridge both in the duality of “Phenomena” and “Noumena” where it is at times problematic to translate his ideas say into the English language for German is well equipped to explain sublime and abstract ideas as opposed to English or any other language for that matter. To be more precise, it is rather difficult to comprehend Kant’s ideas as they get compromised in translation to other languages.

            As much as say Karl Marx is a philosopher in his own right, he was more interested and concerned if history can be understood through scientific inquires as in positive-empiricism where upon he took more of a pragmatic approach to history and hence, “Dialectical Materialism.” Obviously, the short comings of Marx is his scientific approach to predict the future where the vagaries of confounding factors remain to be the culprits. Moreover, the reign of Marx to conceptualize the engine behind the forces of history has been challenged by equally great men and women like him—to mention but a few:

            I. Hegel: Clashes of Ideas
            II. Karl Marx: Economic Class Struggle.
            II. Sigmund Freud:
            Unresolved Sexual Urge
            IV: Emmy Chua: Clash or Conflict between Minority Ethnic group and the Majorities.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear Paulos,

            I can’t agree more. My favorite philosopher is the pan-logistic and rationalist Hegel, who describe thought process in a dialectical arguments that follows thesis-antithesis-synthesis with no limits in space and time. Hegel’s dialectical approach relies on a contradictory process between two sides as oppose to Plato’s opposing sides are people. Hegel’s dialectical process compliments to the concept of “dialectical-materialism” of Marx, though they differ on the primacy between “being” and “matter”. I love to debate on this issue, but it is not without “some kind of cringe” for being diverging from the issue of our people.

            Regards

          • Paulos

            Selam Emma,

            As I made remarks in passing in different threads, I love discourses in the humanities including philosophy. When I was growing up particularly in high school I got drawn more into the life sciences and that became a fixation so to speak and studied in college years as well. But later on, I felt I was missing out something and made an effort to read and learn more about the other areas in social sciences including history on my own. It was kind of too late to change my major but it was never too late to get acquainted not of course to give an expert-opinion about the other set of disciplines.

          • Ismail AA

            Dear Paulos and Aman,
            Thank you for gracing me, and forumers as well, with broader input about matters that are food for the mind. What Paulos has written are valid views. I agree that we, as rational beings, weigh things in their cause and effect context. The conscious mind is the driving force in that undertaking.
            As to Marx and his disciples, the central issue for them was how to deploy philosophical and historical rationalizations in the service of changing social and economic setups of societies. As Paulos has competently outlined, practical exprimentations had shown loopholes and limitation in their endeavours.
            Regards

          • GitSAtSE

            Paul,

            Agniya Azilo40 GazeTTa here,

            “The point is to change it.”

            I just had a chat with itz The Delta in partial DFQs and linear algebra…

            Aha I am Cheezing with the Helldol you have prescribed… I am getting old can you perscribe the V Purple pill.. V for Vendeta!

            🙂 Good will hunting bro. “THE POINT IS TO CANGE IT” Nitric you are very much like Berhe Y or at least you travel on Berhe Way. Parallel Processors… we lost that game because you did not guard awatista “peace” and as short as he is he DUNKED ON YOU! you can loose but don’t loose the lesson Peanut Butter CREAM Optimist. Meloncholy ha!
            Suggestion: can we have a up vote multiplier like a log scale? And an UpYours down arrow instead?

            You Fukuyamma youuuu!

            ጻጸ Solo7

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Haile,
            I am curious what “MoMA” stand for. I live around NY, and
            I am interested to read Emile Cioran’s papers, as I see you being fascinated by his philosophical take. By the way why do you categorize yourself with pessimistic philosophers?

            Regards

          • Haile S.

            Hi Amanuel,
            Enjoy reading you since a long time BTW. MoMA is the museum of modern art. I will come back later on the remaining.

          • Haile S.

            Hi Amanuel,
            I probably used a strong word when I said I am an ‘adept’ of Cioran. It was to express my admiration to him rather than showing my adherence to pessimistic philosophical into which he is categorized by the erudite. I understand that one doesn’t feel inclination to something without some sort of commonality in the first place, but I say I am far from the core judgement of value, and to take Paulos’s expression ‘the half empty half full’ bouncing analysis attributed to such philosophy. Cioran in life was very minimalist; detractors say he has never had a job. But judging by how much effort he puts to express something he will barely have any time to do something else to get fixed income. He turned back almost all literary prizes. He lived in a chambre de bonne (rooms for maids on top of apartments) all his life. I am saying these because it is what defines him as well as a pessimistic philosopher. What I like about Cioran is his aphorism, the depth he goes into analysing a situation, in decorticating and presenting it a way unique to him. Here is an
            exemple from his book ‘The trouble with being born’.
            In French ; La connaissance de soi, la plus amère de toute, est aussi celle que l’on cultive le moins : a quoi bon se surprendre du matin au soir en flagrant delit d’illusion, remontrer sans pitié a la racine de chaque acte, et perdre cause après cause devant son propre tribunal.

            My translation: Knowing yourself is the most bitter and also the one that we rarely cultivate: what use finding yourself in the flagrant act of delusion day and night, mercilessly going back to the same act and losing case after case in front of your own tribunal.
            Translating words is easy, but translating the essence is much more difficult. I hope I succeded.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hailat,

            Thank you for giving us a glimpse of Emile Cioran’s background. French and German philosophers have contributed a lot to the enlightenment of society in general and to the institutions of academia in particular. Cioran’s life looks very interesting that invites curious readers to acquaint with his philosophy. Thank you again, and I hope you will stay active in this forum.

            Regards

          • GitSAtSE

            Aya Amanuel,

            Thats because you are from The Boogie Down Bx… Its Rock afella,’s wife project musuem next to central park! If you mus insist on Booging Down you can try Club Cheetah 22 Tails
            Abi and I frequen it on 7th ave..
            We have been singing the new year Kool and The Weyane Gang song since new years.
            You know the one, Celebration we gonna part tonight So COME ON! Celebration..

            Ever notice kool has ab Afro and the W. Gang are all bold?
            So are the Shaebians Booging all night Bold. The Bouncers keel handing out free combs, and Two Half Minelik KiTkAT JAH Tela, they start thay Testa kasoti bugna..

            Man hang over and all, you see same bold headed cats at modern art museuM exit laying on the grass double dipping the the same uni chop stick in Into the same TiHlo and each of the with a fakatras Becks beet on hand.

            tSAtSE

          • GitSAtSE

            ሰላማት ሃይለ ሰ.

            ኣብ ጎቦታት ስንችሮታት ከም ባርያ ኣብ ገዛአ ሃገር፥ ተመን አዝኒ፡ ወያነን ጨካን ፋችሺስት ደርጊ n Eisran Hamushten Aamet kodimkumna’s…

            Are you going to bring the entire library to the frontlines…and how much RandR time? The 15 min. TUMBAKHO MSRAF SMOKE BREAK?

            I get it, ኣብ ሓወልቲ ፑስክን ኮንጎኻ ኣብታ ሓውልቲ ሸዳይ ሸዳ. ክምዚ ኢልካ ተማህለል።

            ኣንታ ዳዕሮ ከም ባርያ ኣባሓጓኡ ንባሓጎኻ አንዶ ሞስሎኺ ነጋዶ በየን ከምዘለዉ ሓብረኒ። ካባኻ ንጣብካ ኢየ አም ምስጋናይ ካብ መዓሙቕ ልበይ ኢዩ።

            ይቕጽል….

            Meloncholycly natka fara hagereseb ጻጸ Solo7

          • Haile S.

            Hi Xaxe,
            ኣንታ ጻጸ ኣነ simple ትግርኛ እዩ ዝርደኣኒ። ቀሊል ከይብል ናብ ካልእ ከይትኸይድ።

          • GitSAtSE

            Selamat Paul,

            Yeah, I get it now a but just a tiny BIT. Haile S. must have read Life in The Trajic Age of The Greeks, Nitzchches. You know Dr. the melocholy if it all is, from one side or the other, when one decides “not worth engaging..”

            Come on iPaul, what happened to your Yang Saaaaytanish side iSEM side. Stole the filter and sold it to the Russians. It feels a bit Kubaysshahies Keyser-Soze.
            ጻጸ Solo7

          • Paulos

            Tsatse,

            Yea I get it as in the character in “The Usual Suspects.”

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello BA,

            Now that we are colleagues, I am in agony, because I wish greatness for you, but you are not helping me. The highest achievement we can hope for in our psychological development is “self actualization.” You ought to keep one eye on it by now.

            Because I trust your ability to self modify, I will place a silly condition on our friendship. From this day forward, the strength of our friendship will be directly proportional to the amount of respect you show Mr. Amnuel Hidrat. If you must chew something chew Horizon or Abi. I am not okay with that either, but I am too old to strive to have it all.

          • Amde

            እንዴ Dottore Fanti,

            “If you must chew something chew Horizon or Abi. ”

            If you must chew, chew on me ይባላል እንጂ….

            Amde

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selam Amde,

            ሞኝህን ፈልግ.

          • Abi

            Fantastic
            You are missing the point.
            Ato Fanti Ghana is looking for ጭቅና for his old friend from the desert. Ato Amanual is kind of አኞ. Not suitable for a person with dentures.

          • Abi

            Amdachin Tebeqachin
            ፋንቲን በልቶ ማን በቃር ይሞታል?

    • Nitricc

      Hey P: yes, there. you can’t write or talk about the current situation of Ethiopia.

    • GitSAtSE

      Paul,

      The Alchemist Civil Engineer ሙሃንድስ

      Saint Paul as Gash Abi says… Fedayn The Body Guard …
      But best fit would be Val Kilmer in The Saint.

      Set ..Russia, Theme Energy,
      Need Third Rabit Hat Trick,of Olympian Gold Ice Hockey.

      And Abi the single string fidler equates Saay7s Stradeverez Violin.

      It is a good thing Abi’s Art is Harmonics Positive vibratiom,of The Ras Teferri..
      And Tigrigna will not be the cause as the self inflicted Vango’s.

      Moto,alqa, shiH aleka Akchemist Million The Buffalo Soldier Alchemist Ye Kazanchis Sefer Arada Gebeya Astemari.
      Ityopya Agere kshiH wede Terra Terraabytees man yhonilish… guasish ye Road from,Dembelas to,Badumme ahun Adiss Abbeba Dessie TeTerash Semeyawit Desie.
      ETHIOPIA hagerachen awa endegena TiQdem! New Trjuman Ashenafi Yhode angete fqrr new Ashenafi TTernafi!
      Nay Neyy habren enIChefr Belo.

      ARADA abi..Ears you need just dont picknup,the paint Brush. PROMISE።
      የኔ ጌታ ታልቅ ሰው እብነት፡ ግደይ ምስጉን።
      ጻጸ

  • blink

    Dear Forumers

    I do not understand chirawata and i believe the time has passed for me to at least see it as a music , too bad.

  • saay7

    Hi Abe:

    Hmm, just like Ahmed Raji you accidentally shared the wrong link. 😂 It must be wrong link Day.

    I waited for the experimental and the modernist: all I see is same awkward choreography, same overuse of the auto-tune harmonizer, same story line (I am here and my baby is there)….

    please explain, Abe.

    Saay

    • Abraham H.

      Selam Saay, well arguing with a music expert about music would be the last thing I would do. But seriously, though I feel the dance, the use of the kirar and the tigrinya beat is somewhat unique. Yet, it is as judged through the inexperienced observer.

      • saay7

        Abe:

        Oh far from it; not an expert at all (I play krar very badly) I am just a fan with high demand of our musicians, and all artists for that matter.

        saay

        • Fanti Ghana

          Selam Saay,

          I think this is our version of dividing our selves into conservatives and progressives. I just realized that. I have a strong tendency of wanting to preserve what we have and revive what we had in almost all things. I took the masinqo lesson for that reason only (I wish I had more time), to preserve.

  • Paulos

    Selam Saay,

    I was never big fun of Abraham Afwerki. Here are my all time fav. singers from best to the least best:

    I. Yemane Barya
    II. Tekhle Ewur
    III. ‘Hans T’quabo
    IV Tsegaay Berakhi

    The rest are neqewti where I feel like they’re shouting not really singing.

    • Fanti Ghana

      Selam Paulos,
      You saved our friendship by including two of my all times in your “should be arrested for” list.

      • Paulos

        Fantination,

        That’s funny!

    • saay7

      Paulos:

      Oh, well, everyone is entitled to his or her opinion even if their opinion is flat-out-wrong:)

      saay

      *fan not fun. I will let it pass this time; but if you use “waw” instead of “wow” and “hi gays” instead of “hi guys”, that is it: your posting privileges will be suspended 🙂

      • Paulos

        Saay,

        Guess your eyes are failing you. Never said fun.😂

    • Haile S.

      Hi Paulos,
      ኢንጂነርሲ ነቃዊ? በል ሰሚዕናካ። ብመፍትሕ ልበይ(አዝነይ) ኣይትምጽኣኒ 🙂

      • Paulos

        Selam Haile,

        Speaking of Engineer Asgedom, was he really an engineer?

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Paulos,
          He was a graduate from the building college in Addis. The rest depend up to the callers.

          Regards

          • Paulos

            Selam Emma,

            Not familiar with the Building College but thanks for the info.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Paulos & Abraham,

            Let me make it clear: he was a graduate of the “Ethiopian Institute of architecture building construction and city development (EIBC) with a diploma not a degree. If you google it you will find where it is located in Addis.

            Regards

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Amanual
            It is a 5 year degree program.

          • Amde

            Abi,

            The Architecture program is five years. There are other programs less than that.

            In the days of T-squares and Draftung Tables, they used to joke that being an Arch. Student was like being a mule. You spend your whole night on your feet. እንደ በቅሎ ቆመህ ታድራለህ።

          • Abi

            Amdachin
            It is like the accounting majors . They use a debit / credit spreadsheet for almost every account.
            They call it ሳሰምር ነጋ!

          • Paulos

            Abisensation,

            Accounting sucks! In college it is common to see a sort of graffiti that says, “Friends don’t let friends major in Accounting.” But of course they make tones of money.

          • Abi

            Paul
            I promise not to show this comment to the FL ( First Lady). I don’t wear mask when I sleep.
            ሚያው!

          • Paulos

            Abisensation,

            She must be brainy. I personally don’t like and was never good with numbers. That’s probably the reason my aversion to engineering including anything that has to do with math.

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selam Paulos,

            Which means our attraction to one another is “opposites attract” then.
            I refused to take a class not related to math for a long time until I was out of options in college.

            PS:
            If you liked “The Selfish Gene,” watch Luc Besson’s move “LUCY” with Scarlett Johansson + Morgan Freeman. It is not exactly that, but you will get a kick out of it. I can’t tell you more without spoiling it.

          • Paulos

            Selam Amde,

            Architecture they say is like a frozen music. If I was given another chance in life as in if I was to be born again, I would want to be an architect.

          • Saleh Johar

            Paulos,
            If I was not afraid (in fact, terrified) that some Asmarinos might give us headache with cliches of tree-lined blvd and Italian built “art deco” bla-bla (call it frozen cliche), I would have commented about the Tukul architecture and traditional open air dwellings…before residential buildings became investment properties. Not family shelter any more. You see, I can understand why Cisco would want to capitalize on “the Internet of everything”, but I am not into the globalization of everything. Specifically, I am afraid of the saxophone cult 🙂

            Who kind of ears do not enjoy the pristine voice of Chalachew?

            Fanti mentioned Mongolian throat singing. I believe, if this Chalachew guy would learn how to vibrate his throat like a Mongolian when he yodels, all the dead birds would arise.

          • Paulos

            Selam SGJ,

            All the dead birds would come to life is gold as Amde would say it. That said, I see you as a guy with a nostalgic aura with a touch of Romanticism if you will. Asmara in the 1930s was a city of its own marvel where not only other African cities paled in comparison but Peron’s Buenos Aires maybe was a match as well and I disagree with you as you shrug the Blvds off when it should be something to be proud of.

          • Berhe Y

            Selam Paulos,

            When I think of Paris, and modern day France, I think the French have stopped building or doing anything except preserver and beautify the city for more tourists.

            As per Wikipedia, there are over 15 million tourists annually to the city and over 30 million to the country.

            Now when I think of Asmara/Massawa this kind of things comes to me. We should bank on the architecture, the beautiful weather and the sea of Eritrea.

            If we actually focus our attention to African tourists, I think there is a huge potential market for us.

            With this I hope Asmara get the world heritage designation.

            Berhe

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Paulos,
            I am not shrugging the blvds off, but the way they say it is too exaggerated. Did you know that today mekelle and Bahrdar are boasting of palm tree lined blvds? I am just calling for humble description. But to ward off defensive postures I say our palm trees are the “greatest” palms in the world even if one never ate dates 🙂

          • Amde

            Selam Paulos,

            Easy. Become a Hindu. Then you can truly say… “I’ll be baa-ack.” and mean it.

            You mean GOOD Architecture is like frozen music. I have a feeling yours would be elegant like fine wine on a cool evening after a sunny day.

            There is a lot of new money in Addis. Which would seem a bonanza for architects, right? Um.. their idea of commissioning a project is bringing a photo of a building in Dubai to the architect and asking him “design one just like this for me”. That is the absolute majority of them. That drives the unfortunate trend where the architects don’t make a decent living just by designing, but they end up being a design and construction contractor under one roof.

            Then there are some that are straight up strange. There is a building commissioned by a devout orthodox merchant and he wanted the building bowing down to his favorite tabot (Ba’ata Church behind Menelik’s old palace). I can only imagine what it must be like from the inside, because from the outside it looks like its just about to tip over. Yes , miracles are real in the form of a REALLY talented structural engineer because that building still stands.

            The projects that have that rare combo of a talented architect and a classy client are a pleasure to see and a joy to enter. If you ever go to Addis, maybe you can do a small tour of at least the publicly accessible buildings. One of my favorites is the one housing the Ethiopian Commodity Exchange.

            Amde

          • Paulos

            Selam Amde,

            You sure read my mind where I was thinking about Hinduism as I was commenting earlier. Maybe I should try it.

            A new era is eroding the old as Addis is changing fast to copycat the mega cities with skyscrapers of other across the sea nations and with at times frightening greedy individualistic mind set. Hope the government is mindful to preserve the prestine features of the city where the legacy of Menilik and King HS remains intact.

          • Amde

            Selam Paulos,

            I am actually convinced re-incarnation is real. Don’t know if you have to be a Hindu to come back though.

            The joke may be we will all come back and find ourselves back at Awate.com. Just switching roles ( you know they say “what you resist persists”). By that logic ‘Gheteb will definitely come back as Amde. (…somebody tell him to get prepared…) Blue Asmara will most assuredly come back as a Badme specialist… he can’t help intellectual mastication. Lucky for him the likelihood it will still be an issue for another lifetime is quite good at this rate.

            (This could be an enjoyable game… guessing one’s post reincarnation Awate personality)

            Addis Ababa’s growth is amazing. But the elegant parts remain the old sections designed with wide boulevards and trees and such. At least for me anyway – others might think otherwise. They truly stand the test of time. BTW that is one of the reasons I want to visit Asmara one of these days.

            One of the best resources online for projects in Ethiopia is found in this website called SkyScraperCities. Go to the Continental Forums -> Africa-> East Africa-> Ethiopia. It is really a wonderful space with many quite knowledgeable participants.

            Amde

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selam Paulos,

            Read Hinduism to quell your intellectual curiosity, but you will find it heavily derived from and similar to our two religions. There is a lot of wisdom in Christianity and Islam teachings many of us can benefit from. It is sad though both are always attacked by clever people who otherwise know the least about them.

          • Paulos

            Selam Fantination,

            There are certain things or events in life that change our understanding about the thing we call reality in a profound way where we seize it in a aha moment. About 15 years or so ago I was introduced to this particular book where my understanding about life was never the same thereafter as I still recommend it highly left to right if you will.

            As much as Hinduism is the oldest religion, in a rather profound way, it seems in sych with the fundamental concepts of Quantum Physics where the Austrian Physicist Fritjof Capra saw the similarity between the two and published, “The Tao of Physics.” In Hinduism, the myriad deities who represent abstract concepts as in love, happinesss, sorrow and justice among other things, ought to be in a perfectly choreographed tune with each other in a bid to give the impression what we call life or reality. By the same token, in the 1920s and 30s, when wave mechanics was the new frontier, Schrodinger wrote “What is Life” when he clearly understood that, in the quantum world, the Second Law of Thermodynamics (read: Entropy) loses its meaning. That is, as much as the deities are in a perfect tune in space-time, so are the sub-atomic particles. More over, as much as there is no place for the concept of birth and death in Hinduism, in the quantum world as well the particles come into being out of nothing and disappear into nothing simultaneously. I say, Hinduism gets the trophy.

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selam Paulos,

            Now I must insist that you watch “LUCY.” It will give us something to talk about.

            Without spoiling the movie, it claimed that an object traveling faster and faster will disappear, which I disagreed with, but it seems the concept may be based on what you just said: “particles come into being out of nothing and disappear into nothing simultaneously.”

          • Paulos

            Selam Fantination,

            Will definitely watch it. Thanks again.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            My cousin was referred as an Engineer who use to build high rise buildings in Addiss. I was told Eng. Asgedhom was his class mate. I don’t know if he had a degree or diploma but my cousin was big time builder.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Paul
            Not familiar to the building college?
            Why don’t you just shoot me?
            It is not an architectural school.

          • Paulos

            Abisensation,

            Been to Addis but never lived there. Or maybe I am getting old.

          • Abi

            Paul
            May be both. Cut your consumption of orange Bacardi. I recommend double black. Good for memory and longevity.

          • Paulos

            Abisensation,

            Will do. Can’t wait to go to Addis. There is something magical about the city. In fact, one of the reasons I watch the TV drama series is to see their life styles where they live swell and high.

          • Abi

            Paul
            You mean the New York of Africa?

          • Paulos

            Abisensation,

            I tell you, you’re not far from the truth. Addis is changing fast. You own ground plus 2; you have a chef, driver and a gardener. What else can you ask for.

            Again the movies particularly this movie titled “Rebuni” is just amazing—storyline including cinematography is just a must see. And the thing is most of the directors are women in their late 20s and 30s including the movie Rebuni.

          • Abi

            Hi Paul
            What else? How about a ውሽማ? It should come in a package.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Abi and Paulos,

            I think the divide between the have and have not should be a worry.

            I think Ethiopia like most part of the world should strive to build a just and equal society where the wealth of the country should be shared in equitable manner and build the middle class to enjoy the rise of the country fortunes.

            Ground plus 2, a chef, a driver, gardener and Abi’s wish ውሽማ would no in my opinion the country should strive for, I know you meant it as a joke.

            I saw a picture of Addis and someone confirmed that to me, there is a “gated community of the super wealthy” in addis now. There is nothing wrong to build houses and villas but “Gates”, I think that’s the last thing one needs.

            No matter how much wealth people have, they should be free to roam and wonder around without any restrictions.

            There is nothing I hate when I visit some US cities…..I just feel sorry for the people who live inside those gated communities, it’s like a prison to me.

            Berhe

          • jordan

            Hey Abi!

            What kind of comparison is this?? A few skyscrapers doesn’t make Addis to the New York of Africa. Addis may be extraordinary to the Horn of Africa but for the whole of Africa? No. Nairobi, Johannesburg, Kapstaden, Kairo, Tunis, Lagos, Rabat and many other North African cities would fit that much better. Even Kigali might be a better option. It is impressive though how much they’ve built in these years.

            I’m just saying, be humble. Addis is nowhere that YET. (Hopefully)

          • Abi

            Jordan the Great
            I up voted you for showing up.
            What kind of comparison is this? Very ambitious!!!! Any problem with being ambitious? You tell me Jordan Wedey.
            I want you to be very ambitious just like my boys.

          • jordan

            HI Abi.

            All I’m saying is that it’s a bit of a stretch, but when did being ambitious ever kill someone? :/ I try to not expect anything great so I’ll never be disappointed but your way of thinking might be better.

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selam jordan,

            I understood you perfectly, and you are correct.

            ክንዲብዕራይ ዝኸውን ቁማል ኣይትበሉ ኢኻ ትብል ዘለኻ (በሬ’ሚያክል ቅማል አትበሉ ነው እያልክ ያለኸው)፤፤

          • Abi

            Fantastic
            I thought you have a very ambitious daughter.
            በሬ የሚያክል በግ!!!

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello Abisha,

            That is the one advantage I have. I am familiar with the north, south (a little), and the middle.
            በሬ’ሚያክል ቅማል is very common in southern Eritrea and most of Tigray. በሬ’ሚያክል is very important in our dramatic statements. My sister used to use it even when describing a camel.

          • Abi

            Fantastic
            ግመል የሚያክል ፍየል!!

          • Abraham H.

            Hello jordan, you wrote “I’m just saying, be humble. Addis is nowhere that YET. (Hopefully)”. why hopefully? I think wishing others the best as you would to yourself is a very important sign of goodness, so try that,

          • jordan

            Hi Abraham.

            By (Hopefully) I was saying that I wish Addis does turn into the ‘NY of Africa’ since I wish the best for all Africans.

          • Abraham H.

            Hello, jordan, that is ok, sorry that i misunderstood your formulation.

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selam Abraha H,

            That is exactly how he meant it. “hopefully it will get there….” Trust me, I am good at reconstructing!

          • Abraham H.

            Selam Aman, why are you saying ‘he was’, isn’t he still alive? Just curious.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Abraham,

            Good correction buddy. He is alive. Thank you.

          • Abraham H.

            Selam Aman, good to know:-)

        • Haile S.

          Hi Paulos,
          Though not 100% sure, I think so. He attended AAU.

          • Paulos

            Selam Haile

            It was kind of customery to refer or address someone Ingegnere when the person is in fact Geometra. But again thanks Haile.

  • said

    Greeting,
    Ukraine Jamala
    Song title: 1944
    Music by: Jamala
    Lyrics by: Jamala

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxS6eKEOdLQ .

    When strangers are coming…
    They come to your house,
    They kill you all
    and say,
    We’re not guilty
    not guilty.

    Where is your mind?
    Humanity cries.
    You think you are gods.
    But everyone dies.
    Don’t swallow my soul.
    Our souls

    Yaşlığıma toyalmadım
    Men bu yerde yaşalmadım
    Yaşlığıma toyalmadım
    Men bu yerde yaşalmadım

    We could build a future
    Where people are free
    to live and love.
    The happiest time.

    Where is your heart?
    Humanity rise.
    You think you are gods
    But everyone dies.
    Don’t swallow my soul.
    Our souls.

    Yaşlığıma toyalmadım
    Men bu yerde yaşalmadım
    Yaşlığıma toyalmadım
    Men bu yerde yaşalmadım

  • Amde

    Selam Awatistas

    እግዜር ዘፈን ሲያምረው ትግሬን ያጠግባል::

    (When God feels like dancing, he fills Tigrayan/Tigrinya bellies)

    Classic Amharic saying.

    • Abi

      Amdachin
      እግዜር ደብሮት ሥራ ፈቶ
      ትግሬን አስጨፈረው ሆዱን ሞልቶ

      • Haile S.

        ሰላም ወንድም ኣቢ
        ኣማራ እንዳለው፣ እግዚሔር ዘፈን ሲያምረው ትግሬን ያጠግባል እኮ ኣደረጉት!
        ሃይለ

    • Haile S.

      Hi Amde and Abi,

      Sorry for the redundancy. I didn’t see Amde’s comment. It was my quick reaction.
      Haile

      • Abi

        Selam Haile
        You are just telling the truth:)

  • GitSAtSE

    ሰላማት ዳስ ሽሕ፡

    “ማን ጓስሺ ማን ይሁን?” بوكرا يوم الاءتنين. ال نور ال احاد, حفلا غانان تالاتو اشنافي نشكور ونبشرو. اسباحو بل
    خير.
    ابشرو ناس من ال شرق, ياحليلكوم . راءيسكوم ال جرير عابرولا “جبنا” موحامد.

    BIT kiTTkaTT And ۸. نوقطا
    Point 8) The Somalian President Abdulah “Frmajo” MoHamed — A critical look at the Somalian State by and for Horn of African States. Twenty five years After Things Fell Apart leading to The Beggining of Things Comming Together.
    Happy Monday to All.
    tSAtSE

  • saay7

    Hala Ahmed:

    You accidentally sent me a link to Gebretsadeks “nbeyney”. I could (and I did when I was a kid) produce the same musical sophistical using Famfam.

    Now I await for the correct link 😂

    saay

    • Fanti Ghana

      Selam Saay,

      Okay, try this one on Famfam, fam teblka wa.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ez4GbrMe4rs

      • saay7

        Haha Fanti:

        Before I go chasing a new link, am I going to see a two string or three string masinko/chra watta? Or it’s the same one string?

        saay

        • Fanti Ghana

          Selam Saay,

          ሓንቲን ክያንቲን ኢሎም ወለድና:

          What do you think they were referring to?

          • saay7

            Anta fara Fanti:

            Cianti is Italian for some alcohol concoction. So that was “one for the road: last call for alcohol.” That was the only way they could tolerate the monotone of wata /masinko: fully loaded.

            saay

      • Abrehet Yosief

        Selam Fanti Ghana,
        The guy is part of The Nile Project. I was lucky enough to watch their performance and what a joy it was. A great example of artists working to bring peoples closer.

    • Ahmed Raji

      I’m almost giving up on you Saleh. Well, that’s the correct link. And, btw, you’re probably underrating your homemade famfam as well

      • saay7

        Haha Ahmed:

        I know: that is two strikes on me: one on chra watta and one on the accordion. May I request that if you have music you play for people you give up on be guitar-based with a sax solo? 😂

        saay

        PS: gebretsadek had a very soulful voice and tefelalina dina is on of the most mournful songs. So no complaints there.

  • GitSAtSE

    ያ ሰላም ኣሕመድ ራጂ፡

    ኣን ወርሒ መጋቢት ነታ ቆጸራ ኣርኢስቲ ጡጡሕ ባይቶ ቅድም ቀዳድም ጎንጽካኒ።

    በል ነዞም ሰብ ካናዳ መጅሙዓ፡ ጋንታ ህጁም፡ መምተኒ ኤርትራውነት ወረቕት፡ ምስ ሰመረ ተስፋይ፡ ገዛኢ ሓጎስ፡ በርሀ የማን ምስ ሰመረ ዓንዶም ክጽንበረኩም ኢየ።

    1) ሸውዓተ ወለዶ ሓደ ኣብ ልዕሊ ሸውዓተ ብጽሒት ጤሳ (1/(2Pi) ጎደሎ 1/7 ውጺቱ ባዶ ነጥቢ ባዶ ክልተ) ከባቢ ክልተ ሚአታዊ። 1/9 ወይ ሲሶ ኣርቢካ ምስ ሲሶ ባዶ ነጥቢ ቀጻሊ ሓደ፡ 0።11111 ዓሰርተ ሓደ ነጥቢ ዓሰርተ ሓደ ወከልቲ ን ሓንቲ ብሄር።ትሕዝ ቀረጽ ምስ ርኡይ ወኪልነት፡ ሒዘልኩም ኣለክኹ ም፡ ሰላምታ ትካዜ ውሑጅ ተከዘ ንውሓቱ፡ ዑምቀት ዒላ ቱሪዓ. ኣርበዓ በርብዓ፥ ሰልስተ ቅድሚ ስማንያ፨
    ኣውራ ኣወል ዛዕባ ቆጸራና ወርሒ መጋቢት 77።

    መሰንቆ ቻላቸው ኣሽናፊ፡ ምን ክኾንልኪ ጠበቓ፡ መን ክኾነልኪ ኢዩ ‘ንቲ ፍቕረይ ናይ ሃገረይ ቆልዓ
    “የ ኣገረ ልጅ፡ የ ኣገረ ነሽ፡ ክወድያ በተወለድኩበት ከንግዲ፡ ምንድር ነው ዉዳሴ ከሌለች””’ ኣንቺ ጋራ ጋራ፡ አንግዲ ክናቴ ቁራጥ ምላገዛ ካልሻልኒ፡ ተከዘው”
    ፍልፍል ተከዘ “ተከዘው፡ ስጠሩ፡ማያየው,,”

    ካብተን ዝሓዝክውን ቃላት መሰንቆ ኣቶ “ቻላቸው ኣሽናፊ”

    And on this oportune moment, allow me to state my great appreciation for Awatestaff Productions presentation of The Ethiopian Masinqo or ChirawaTTa featuring The Single String Violinist Chalachew Ashenafi. Great authentic vocals, accompanied by precussions and keys. The Single String Theory, Astrophysics and unto awaiting reserved seat with the alchemist.
    Ratio Pi:D The Arc and every one’s piece of the Pi.
    February Black History Month, American History Month.
    BIT by BIT, “Hiden Fugures” Black Institute of Tecknology.

    tSAtSe

  • Fanti Ghana

    Selamat Ahmed Raji Abiyi seb,

    A son and daughters of the man who discovered, adopted Gebretsadik, and took him to Asmara are very close friends of mine. We listened and talked a lot about him, so I feel I am especially connected to the song you posted. I saw a kid in Mekele play some of his songs who blew my mind. I will kidnap Saay if I have to, but I will make him listen to that kid someday!

    Thank you Ahmed.

    • Ahmed Raji

      Merhaba Fanti. Gebretsadik was a great musician indeed. Long before i knew who he was, his Tefelalina dina was a tune I always carried in my memory. As to SY’s intransigence in this case and SG’s aversion to the saxophone, well, what can I say. One day they will see the light 🙂

  • Fanti Ghana

    Hello Amde,

    The sixth string does absolutely nothing. I mean nothing!

    The ring and little fingers are physically difficult to control fully independent one from the other. However, it is tuned same as the fifth string for added tone but nothing else. I have three kirars, and only one is six string. Although Amarigna/Tigrigna are tuned the same, I like my Amarigna kirar tuned slightly different. I play my six string guitar when I am in the mood for finger picking plus strumming as in “ጎራዳ ጉርድርድ ከወደደልሽ…”

    I think the sixth string had its purpose when begena was common, where it is necessary, but our regular music doesn’t need it.

    • saay7

      Fanti:

      And there you have it: instead of our fingers adopting to a six string krar, our music adopted to our four finger (because the pinkie is unused and the thumb controls two keys) capability. As you know, Western music is based on a scale of 12.

      And as you know the tuning differences between the notes can be varied by… wait let me put it this way: Eritrean Ethiopian krar is exactly like using only the black keys of a piano. It will get you the most basic melodies but not much more.

      saay

      • Fanti Ghana

        Selam Saay,

        Sorry! I forgot you were still around.

        Brother Saay, my theory about our music is the same as my theory about our food.
        They both arrived at their most refined stage some 5,000 years ago, therefore, cannot improve any farther.

        I have listened to so many wonderful music from Mongolian throat singing to Senegal’s single note miracles, all amazing and beautiful, but to us, our music is too addictive to let go.

  • Abi

    Selam Haile
    This is too deep for uninitiated people like Saay.
    I love medina and zelesegna.
    ትንሽ ቤት ሰራሁ እንዳቅመኛ
    ሁለት ሰው ብቻ የሚያስተኛ
    አላስገባ አለች እሷው ጠባ
    ሰው በሰው ላይ እየገባ

  • Paulos

    Selam Fantination,

    Forgot to ask you the other day. Do you still pursue astronomy for a hobby?

    • Fanti Ghana

      Hello Paulos,

      The passion is still warm, but I have been shuffling priorities for a while, and astronomy is, as my virtual little sister would say, in the La-La-Land now days. I read occasionally though, not to add but to retain.

      • Paulos

        Waiting for Tsatse to take us to the stars and say something about it.

        • GitSAtSE

          መርሓባ ጳውሎስ፡

          ዶንግየካ ዶ? ኣብ አዝንኻ ዝምስጥ ድምጻዊ ምዕበል አዩ ኣሕቢሩ ን ከውኽብቲ ሰማይ፡ ጠፈር ሰንጢቑ። አንታይ ገለ ኢሉ ጻጸ ሓውካ ወሳዲ ክኸውን? አምበርከ የአዛንካ ጽንጽንታ ስሒልካ ኢኻ ሰማዒ ትኸውን፡ ‘ምበር ቃላት ኣዝሚሩ ከም ተቕባሊ ደገም አንት በለካ ኝኸጠድምቕ ዳስ፡ ተደግም አተን ቃላቱ ደምጻዊ ቻላቸው ኣሸናፊ።
          ምስጋና ንዓኻ ኣውራ አዛ ውንበር ምስ ኣብ ጥውላ ስነ ቅመማውያን ዘጽናሕካለይ።
          ምስጋና ንዓኻ ኣውራ አዛ ውንበር ምስ ኣብ ጥውላ ስነ ቅመማውያን ዘጽናሕካለይ።

          ምስጋና ንዓኻ ኣውራ አዛ ውንበር ምስ ኣብ ጥውላ ስነ ቅመማውያን ዘጽናሕካለይ።

          ቋንቃ ኣምሕርኛ ካብተን ዘዋህለልክውን ኣብ ግዜ ቁርሲ ምሳሕ ምስ መማህርተይ ኢትዮዕያዊ ስሙ ሚልዮን፡ ስን ቅመም ፍልጠት ንሞይ ቀሳሚ። መምህርትና ከባቢ ምጭርስታ ሰማንያታት ስግዕ ፈለማ ትስዓታት አዋኑ አዩ። ድሕሪ ኢመት ብ ቛንቃ ኣምሕርኛ ክውሪ ምስ ጀመርኩ፡ “መቸ ነው ኣንተ ችልክ በኣማርኛ መናገር” ኢያሉ ጥያቄ ኣቅርቦትዋል። አና “ኣሁን ክናንተ ጋራ፡ የ ኣገረ ልጆች ኣሁን ጎሮበት፡ አናንተ ኣስተማሪ፡ ኢኔ ትማሪ፡ ይ ኣንድ ኣምት ኣሁን ውርደ ሁከተኛ ክፍል፡ ማን ነው ከናንተ ይለፍ ወረቀት ይሰጠኝ?” የሀ ዶሞ ጨመርችኩት፡ “እዝማሪ ቤት ከ ወንደሞችን ኣብነት ‘ና ዓምደ ከሌሎች፡ ካዛንችስ ሰፈር ኣዲስ ኣበባ፡ ሁለት ሽህ ኣስራ ሰባት ዓ፡ም ዘፈን ኣቶ ኣሸናፊና በአጁ ያዞው ማሲንቆ ጠቃሚ አንደሆነ ኣሁን ስለ ኣሰብኩት” ብየ

          የኔ ኢትዮጵያውያን ትምርት ቤት ውንድሞች፡ አንደዚ ብሉኝ። “ኣንተ ጉንዳን ዉሸታም፡ ኣገር ቤት ኣማርኛ ቋንቋ ጌና ኣልገባ ኢያልክ ኣንድ ኣመት ምክናያቱን ናውቃለን፡ ኣሁን ስትናገር ውሸታም ጉንዳን ምሪ ውምበደዎች ተገንጣዮች ብግልጥ ኣሳየህ፡” አያሉ አየትሳቁ አነ ሚልዮን ኣልከሚስት፡ ዘሪሁን አና ብርሃኑ፡ የኔ ኣዳስ ሃገረ የ ኤርትር ልጆች ከሌሎች አን ዳኒ ኢብራሂም ፊሽ፡ የትግርኘ ዘፈን ጨፈር፡ ሁላችን ኣብረን ኣንድ ጋራጋር ስክስታ ኣድርርገን።
          በ ሰላም በ ግምሽ ደስታ ግማሽ ‘ኣዘን ሆዳችን ውስት ተመላ፡ ግና ስለ ማቆም፡ ሸበራ መከራ ለ ሃገራችን ኡለቱ አንደ ኣንድ፡ ምስገና ልምሰጥ፡ ይትካዜ ዘፈን ትግርኛ ስለ ሆነ ተቀብለን ወደ ስክሳ ስቀየር ቃላቱ አንደዚ ነበር።
          “ዘጠና ኣንድ ደርሰት፡ ተይ ትይ ኣትበይ ብትግርኛ የሀ የሶስት ዘመን ዘፈን,,, ‘ምስ በዓል ጌታችው ምስ በዕል በቀለ ኣኺላ አታ ግዜ ክንፈላለ። ግዝያዊ ምፍልላይ ን ርግኣት ስነ ሓሳብ፡ እዕናዊ ውግአ ወረ ዂናት ኣብ ምድርና ደው ቢሉ ክንምለስ ጊደና ምዕብልና። ዘፈን ትካዘ ፍቕሪ ከልተ ጎርቤት የሕዋት፡ ክም ጭራዋጣ ደምጻዊ ቃላት ኣቶ ቻላቸው ኣሸናፊ “ማን ይሆንልች የ ሃገረ ልጅ በፍቅር ቤተ ላንተ ጎርቤት ክፍት ነው አንዳለቹ፡ ኢኛ ኣንዳ ኣንተ ብግጥ ስል ፍቅር።”
          Dear Paul, it is a good thing that we are seated with Amde and Abi. At least for yours truly, only a defered 2nd level Amharic language learner.

          The Pythagorean Plato and Abrehet’s KiTcha ቁርሲ ቡን for each under individual’s respective piece of the Pi or KiTcha and Astrophysics formula will have to be in article submission.

          The algorithm of the lucid flow of ፍልፍል ተከዘ ኣብ ቅራን ዶባድብ ሰሜን፡ደቡብ፡ምብራቕ አዘን ሰለስተ ጎሮቤት ሃገራት ኢትዪጵያ፥ኤርትራ፡ሰ-ሱዳን።

          The algorithm and force of the positive vibrations of awatestaff productions at ኣዝማሪ ቤት ኣራዳ ካዛንችስ ሰፈር! ‘ናመስገናለን፡የቐንየልና!!!
          in a
          BIT by BIT forward towards TeraBytes.
          ዘተ ሰላም ብ ተበግሶ ብዕልና።

          ጻጸ

          • Paulos

            Selam Tsatse,

            If I am to make a list of Awatistas I would love to meet in person, you definitely are one of the top three.

            In Mocando, the Buendia family lived for generations as in for 100 years. What is so unique about the town and the family is that, they lived in time and space which is the product of an imaginative mind which straddled between the real and unreal where one dares to call it sureal. If Garcia Marquez introduced us into a reflection of his magic realism, Tsatse is maybe a light years away from Marquez’s time and the era he lived in but Tsatse is in the same wavelength in style and taste where the rest of us say with pride we have our own.

          • GitSAtSE

            Holla mi amigo Pablo,

            “Un Ciento annos de Solidad.”

            Your Writing in Tigrigna catalyst and much appreciated generosity of kind words. Con gusto y muchas gracias, pero la objectiva de nuestro es mas mejor.

            ፍትሒ ብ ሓባር ጉዕዞን ጻዕሪ ኩላትና ኣዝዩ ይዓብን ይሓይሽን ን ምስላጡ።

            The pleasure will be mine when we meet. At Traflfaager Square or Piccadili Station , the London Tube.

            Happy Monday to you ጳውሎስ። ኣይትሰኣን ሓወይ።

            ጻጸ

      • Abrehet Yosief

        Hello Fanti Ghana,
        Did you visit the space observatory in Addis?

        • Fanti Ghana

          Selam Abrehet Y,

          No, I couldn’t. However, I am planning/wishing to make a grand entrance someday by buying them a small telescope they can use to delight youngsters with.

          • Abi

            Fantastic
            You will be all over the news. I will be watching the news to see what kind of shoe you are wearing for that day.

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selam Abisha,

            She never lets me go to Addis alone. Never!
            I showed you my chama two long years ago “Abinet Juice” biye. minew tenkerafefk?

  • saay7

    Selam all masinqo chra watta lovers:

    I have a question but first let me put my helmet on…

    [intermission: please enjoy these two violinists: https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=zRC09LMo_Gw%5D

    Helmet on: why does the chra watta soundso out-of-tune and so primitive? I can cover a comb with a foil and produce that sound 😂

    On the other hand, a violin sound (refer to link provided) can reduce you to tears, move you, hypnotize you. But a masinqo watta? What good is it? The answer was provided by grumpy Abi in a different thread: we spent centuries fighting wars (and by inference neglecting everything.)

    saay

    • Abrehet Yosief

      Selaam saa7,
      Nothing wrong with a primitive instrument. It is not burdened with frivolous additional strings. 🙂 May be its sounds out of tune to you because you are used to the 7 notes of modern music. A lot of folk songs in different countries including that of Greek times is pentatonic. Now it is good that you are focusing on the sound of the instruments. The lyric is another matter. While the verses: “Etibtie kewediya: meqabrie wedih: betweledukubet alnorkum kengdih.” touch me, the rest is quite loaded. Good one and classic double meaning.

    • Paulos

      Hey Professor,

      Short answer: cuz it is primitive. Quasi-long answer: simply because you have the advantage of time at your disposal where the people who were reduced to tears listening to Chira Watta were primitive. Am I confusing you? Let me try this: Some time in the future say when a quantum violin comes into being, posterity will parrot your question but with a slight difference as in “Why does the manual violin sounds so primitive.” Still confused? Well will have to ask Fantination to lend me his lucid and smooth take on issues to elaborate further.

    • Abi

      Saaytanish
      You got it right again. We were busy opening schools and industries in Eritrea we neglected our masinko.
      Honestly, that is my kind of music. Something with meaning you can contemplate on.
      My all time favorite musician is Tewodros Taddesse. Let me give you one example from his song .
      ጊዜ ከመስታዎት እንደምን ይለያል
      እንኳን የሰው ፊቱን ጀርባውን ያሳያል::

      • Paulos

        Abisensation,

        The lyric is philosophical. We sure have our own share of philosophical lyrics as well:

        Mejemeria fiqri b’men tejemere—Adam’n hewan’n alem keytefetre. Either Tsehaitu Berakhi or Abrehet Tesfahunegn.

        Here is another one where we got it all figured out way before all the diet gurus went Oz on us.

        Nay akal vitamin nay H’lina hayili ts’buq z’melkaAa tefetawit qotsli. Osman Abdelrahman.

        • Abi

          Hi Paul
          Ok nice lyrics:)))
          Translation please!

          • Paulos

            Abisensation,

            I thought you’re at ease with maybe not with Tigrigna but definitely with Tigrinya. But I guess I guessed wrong, will have to redirect you to Fantination. Yea everything is to Fantination.

          • Abi

            Hi Paul
            ጆሮዬን ቢቆርጡት ትግርኛ አልሰማም

          • Paulos

            Abisensation,

            Am watching the game and it sucks. Looks like they’re still warming up for a game.

          • Abi

            Paul
            What game? I fell asleep halfway.

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello Abisha,

            Nice! The Qine in this one is easy to miss.

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selam Paulos,

            ጊዘን ምስትያትን ደቂ ሓደ ዘርኢ፤
            ንወዲ ሰብ ገፅውን እንግድዓውን የርኢ፤፤

            The gold is of course on the second line. Hint:
            ምስከፍኣኒ
            ገፅ ከሊኡኒ..

          • Paulos

            Thanks much Fantination.

        • saay7

          Hey Pa….:

          Mejemeria Fiqri was Askalu. And nothing philosophical about it, Abi. Askalu is describe the arranged marriage of Adam and Eve as romantic.

          The Osman song of Nay Akal vitamin was equally bad. Truly, Tigrinya music was saved by post-PFDJ Eritreans (settle down iSem:)

          saay

          PS: Hey Abi, my favorite part of the slam-dunk is the reaction of their peers. We don’t do subtle, do we.

          • Paulos

            Hey Saay,

            Nothing philosophical about it? Philo as in love and Sophia as in wisdom. Askalu? gives us an insight (read: wisdom) about love and its beginnings.

          • saay7

            Hey Paulos:

            There is no reason why Abi should be spared from the inane lyrics of Tsehaitu Berakhi’s “mejemeria fiqri”: so as a punishment to all of you for annoying me with your terrible taste in music, here is the guy that everybody hates for his wanton stealing of everybody’s music (INCLUDING! ABRAHAM AFWERKI!) the very terrible Jossy, one more thing Ethiopia refuses to apologize for:

            https://youtu.be/PummTCsggTY

            saay

          • Paulos

            Oh Saay,

            Have Bacardi orange flavor on me. That will cool you down. Yea where is Amde?

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello again Saay,

            A dear friend and I have been talking about recording some classical songs, and I was invited/consulted to play kirar (don’t tell anyone) for “mejemeria fiqri.” That was two years ago +- a month. My dear friend decided to have a baby on the wrong year, and his friend (the gutarist) kept saying “baEdel Fetur,” and I am contemplating to not ever play anything but masinqo.

            Anyway there was a Abraham Afwerki birthday/memorial celebration in Mekele recently. I was really touched by the realization that there are that many young generation who admire and remember Abraham, in Mekele to boost.

            Don’t be cruel! Tsehaitu, Abraham, Usman, and Wedi Gebru (for me) should be free for all. God, many others too, but enough for now.

          • saay7

            Fanti;

            you mean this? https://youtu.be/AjANyrpZ-PM?list=PLudSKuFXuxo_JNsH6aUqluorFiTTIAkJE

            WHO wouldn’t be touched by this? But this is different from Jossy!

            SAAY

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selam Saay,

            Wow, it has been a year already? Almost all my nephews are super fans, but one of them, a teacher at one of Mekele schools, is quite young with unparalleled sense of humor. One of his brothers forced him once to confess to me what he did with one of his classes and he told me that he assigned his students to choose and bring a minimum of three of Abraham’s songs and they will discuss it as a sociology project of some sort. The real reason was that he was making sure he was not missing any of Abraham’s songs.

            Jossy?

            I would not have any respect for anyone who tries to gain fame and fortune from others’ work and creativity, but what I have noticed in Ethiopia mostly is a gesture of reaching out. We are one, peace, we love you….etc., and the real professionals mean it as “I respect you.” For that very reason I tend to be forgiving, but yeah, I know the type, and what you mean.

          • saay7

            Hey Fanti:

            Yep, time flies. Jossy? Yeah Jossy: the guy is so obnoxious the estate of Abraham Afewerki had to say, “please stop”. Remember, he was going to go to Eritrea to hold a concert and some meanie Ethiopian website had a bunch of snarky comments about that, which I saved, and I would write my buddy Eyob Medhane with “guess what?” and he would think I had breaking news and every single time he would fall for it and every single time I would quote a line from the Ethiopian website about Jossy in Eritrea. Samples:

            Hey Eyob, i got some news!
            What?
            በል እግረ መንገድህን ለ ግንቦት ምነው ዘገያቹ በልልን

            Eyob? Where have you been? Did you hear?
            What?
            ኣስታጥቆ ሳዋ ይልከዋል ከዛ ሳዋ ሳው ብሎ ይዘፍናል!

            Hey Eyob, did you read the BBC report?
            What? No, what does it say?
            እስኪ መጀመርየ የራስህ የሆን ኣልቡም ኣውጣ: በምላጥነህም ኩራ እንድ ኣትየ ማዘንግያሽ ሻሽ አትቀያይር!

            Then Eyob disappeared for months from me, until:

            Hey Eyob, I got news about Ethiopia’s elections!
            What?
            የማታድግ ጥጃ ከብሬ ፊት ትበላላች አሉ አያቴ በቅድምያ ሱሪህን በደምብ ታጠቅ

            Yeah, I have a Jossy obsession. It’s not healthy.

            Saay

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello Saay, Eyoba,

            Welcome back! Very impressive indeed.

          • saay7

            Hey Fanti:

            Whatcha talkin ’bout will all the scratching and strikethoughs? Eyob has moved on to smaller and worse things. I was sharing with u, at the expense of Jossy, saay-eyob FB convo from many moons ago:)

            saay

          • Blue Asmara

            Salam Fanti Ghana and a Happy Monday to you!. I see that you have relatives in Mekelle. There is a convicted serial rapist from the U.S. is now the Chief of Neurosurgery for Ethiopia who spends most of his time in Mekelle. Might be good if you can use your connections alert authorities in Mekelle so that another innocent patient does not fall victim to this monster. I actually went to medical school with this *******. Incredibly smart individual but a real monster. He is going by the name of (Professor) Dr. Tony Magana in Ethiopia though in the States we knew him as Ignacio Magana. Search ‘Ignacio Magana rapist Florida’ in Google.

          • GitSAtSE

            Selamat Blue Asmara,

            “Guasashs Mann yhunn, Tebeqish Mann yhunn, emagni Mann yhunn.” Challachew Ashenafi.

            On The Run Way & And The New Model.

            “I will get back to you” with an upvote deserved for your presence.
            tSAtSE

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selam Blue Asmara,

            Wow! Although I know Ethiopia have a strong background check mechanism, but it would still be amazing how he got the visa to visit let alone to practice or teach. I will check.

            Thank you.

          • Nitricc

            WOW SAAY: why are they celebrating Abraham Afowerki? what is to them? WOW! i haven’t listened to the whole program but WHY? I thought we are the banda, we are enemy and we are the arrogant once, then why are they celebrating one of the Banda, the enemy and the arrogant one?
            I think The Tigryans are the most confused once. My question to Tegryans is what do you want?
            When it suits you, you get the entire Ethiopia and her resources to wipe out the Eritreans, if not to break their spinal cord when that doesn’t happen now you are celebrating one of Eritrea’s best. I am confused? what do you want?

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello Nirtriccay,

            Remember almost three years ago I was sharing with you about my observation of people in Ethiopia/Tigray vis-a-vis Eritreans? Those who live to make others bad just happened to be too vocal and the only ones we hear day in day out, but they are minute in number. What I noticed in Tigray was really amazing. The people seemed way ahead of the times in their outlook. Trust me on this one: your/our enemies are fewer than you think. I know it is extremely difficult at times, but a little more patience brother.

            I will say more someday.

          • Collateral Damage

            Hi Nitricc,
            Your grasp of society is poor at best. You expect 6 million Tigreans or 90 million Ethiopians to have the same stand on everything? People have different world views. Some love Abraham Afewerki, some might hate him, most are indifferent, I can’t believe I am explaining this basic concept to a fully grown man.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Collateral D: I see you having difficulty in understanding my comment, let me explain to you in less damaging way. Do you think Eritreans will gather to commemorate the life of Kirso Alemayo in Asmara? it may happen after hall is freezes over but I am sure you will find people who likes the songs of Kiros. Accordingly Mr. sunshine; why are you gathering to commemorate the life of Abraham Aforki in Mekelle? what is Abaraham to you? Did you get my drift?

          • Collateral Damage

            Hi again Nitricc,
            I fully understood your comment. May be you didn’t understand your comment well
            first are you sure those exact same people celebrating Abraham Afewerki “said Eritreans are the banda, Eritreans are enemy and Eritreans are the arrogant”? if not are you implying all Tigrian’s have the same world view about Eritreans?
            Now I am not sure what Every Eritreans will do about Kiros Alemayehu, but whatever they do we should’t strive for a society where everyone in the country have the same stand about a singer.
            your last question ” what is Abaraham to you?”, personally I don’t know much about him except his hit song “Semai’. But I know clubs in Ethiopia who commemorated Whitney Houston and MJ, I wouldn’t be surprised if some people in mekele are fans of Abraham Afewerki more than MJ and WH ?

          • saay7

            Hey Nitriccay:

            There is nothing in what I shared that deserves two capitalized WOWs. 😂

            The reasons are simple:

            1. Music doesn’t know borders: tigrayans, 95% of whom are Tigrinya-speakers, appreciate the lyrics and melody of Abraham Afwerki which are always love-oriented;

            2. During the terrible years, he actually visited Ethiopia to hold a concert. I am sure if you were a member of awate forum then (and if we had one), I am sure if tesfanews and madote were around, you guys would have gone completely bonkers. Semere T most likely would have dispossessed him of his Eritrean nationality 🙂

            saay

          • Abi

            Hi Saay
            I understand the romantic part. In Eritrea if a coupe are not fighting they are considered romantic.
            ትግሬ ፍቅሩን በቴስታ ነው የሚገልፀው

            እንቺ እናትሽን! ይላል ፍቅሩን ሲገልፅላት
            እየጠቀለለ ሲያጎርሳት
            አይኗ ሲፈጥ መዋጥ አቅቷት
            ያፈጣል አይኑን ሊቆጣት
            የትግሬ ፍቅር አቻ አይገኝለት

    • Fanti Ghana

      Hello Saay,

      Did I tell you I took two weeks worth of masinqo lesson in Addis? A dozen successful songs so far and counting. Some of the sounds some youngsters can produce would change your perception of masinqo. Also a young man who is likened to and supposed to be equal or better than Gebretsadik is producing some amazing sounds in Mekele. I wouldn’t discount masinqo just yet.

      God willing, I will take you on a tour of Dessie and Bati someday.

      PS:
      One of the few songs I can play with masinqo is

      እናተጋደልና ሃገር ክነዐሪ
      ኣሸጊሮምና ብዓል እከይ ግብሪ…
      (do you remember?)

      For the sin you just committed, I am going add the following to the lyrics from this day forward.
      እናተቓለስና ጭራ ክነናግር
      ይድህሉና ኣለው ናስመሪኖ ነገር

      • saay7

        Ok, terrible music lovers:

        Dear Abrehet: As far as I am concerned, I will not argue with you about anything for all of 2017 because of two classics you shared with awatistas:

        1.ድሕሪ ስሕተት ምኽሪ ይርከብ፤ ድሕሪ ጥራጥ እግሪ ይእከብ
        2. ንጥርዓነይ ሰማዒ: ንዓውደይ ሰፍኢ: ንዝኣረገ ኣድገይ ዝብኢ: ኣይትኽለኣኒ

        As for the rest of y’all: You are right it is about scale: pentatonic vs 7 scale. But it has nothing to do with what one is used to: all human beings, regardless of culture, at birth, hear and recognize he pentatonic scale as melodious. The issue is: evolution by improving on scale and interval. Put another way:

        It is the difference between a 5 string krar (which we heard forever) and a 7-string krar which Dawit Shilan just recently pioneered: (must we do EVERYTHING, Ethiopians? Come on, pick it up:) Here he is:

        https://youtu.be/ieUgVrBmXUw

        It is entirely indisputable that he can do more with a 7-string krar than the most able 5-star krarist.

        But as innovative as dawin shilan is, he can’t produce music as complex as an Oud or guitar player: observe: his left hand is not doing anything but a binary on-off position. An oud or guitar player, has to move hand up and down the keys to create more complex rhythm. If his/her right hand can pluck the string, we have flamenco, even more beautiful…

        So, coming back to the Watta or Masinqo, what I am asking is: yes, of course, it is primitive but why is it STILL primitive? I am saying, Fantiness, congratulations that you learned to play some tunes and I am sure it is lovely, but if some dude came playing the violin for the same tunes you learned, the listeners would dump you in hot minute.

        Where is Amde? This is validation of his theory that the living are smarter than the dead.

        Saay

        PS: Dear Abi: ask Fanti or P to translate Abrehet’s classics for you. Also, I don’t do 1941-1998 Eri-Ethio (yawn) politics anymore. Maybe in 20 more years, if I am still alive. So for now, I can’t give a rebuttal.

        • Fanti Ghana

          Selam Saay,

          We are not as far behind as you think. Enjoy a Tigrian singing Amharic on Kirar.
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoEYKFAFafc
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCdRyQwFAyI

          • saay7

            Hey Fanti;

            Four years late dude. four years. But, meh, not bad😂 I mean the singer, not the judges: I find it amazing how Africans and Asians spend half their time railing against neo-colonialiasm and the other half appropriating everything –down to the last detail–neo-colonial influences. American Idol is one such example: if you look at its Arab franchise, Indian franchise, Ethiopian franchise, Eritrean franchise, its mind-blowing how the same smart-alecky judges, the same formula is used all over the world.

            saay

        • Paulos

          Hey Saay,

          Isaias seems to have dropped the 1998-2017 Ethio-Eri politics as well per his last interview. You’re not alone.

        • Abrehet Yosief

          Dear Saay,
          I humbly accept the immunity you have granted me. However, please do not feel obligated to honor it. As they say, ምስላን ዝምስላ፤ እንጌራን ዘየብስላ:: Don’t leave my half baked comments out of your scrutiny.

          • saay7

            Hey Abrehet:

            Your immunity is earned. I don’t know if you missed it, but iSem and I hold the view that most Eritrean proverbs are useless and conversation fillers. You just happened to have come up with the very rare: useful:)

            saay

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selam Abrehet Yosief,

            what is this? ካብ ናይ ዓሚ ናይ ሎሚ ገደደ እንዶ ድኣ ገይረነኦ፤፤

            He is trapped now.

            I did similar thing to some stranger lady who was talking too much once upon a time.

            She was fantastic in all the things she was saying and I was enjoying the whole shebang when she suddenly stopped and asked “do I talk too much?” I replied quickly: “Yes, but not enough.” It took her about half a second to process, but it felt like an eternity because her eyes were on me and there was no silence before. Anyway I got a hug for it.

            ሕጂውንሲ ነቲ ቀዳማይ ዕዳ ከምዘየጉድለሉን ከምዘይውስኸሉን ገይረነኦ ገሪሙና ኣሎ፤፤

        • Berhe Y

          Hi Saay,

          A good friend of mine introduced me to a song “Concierto de Aranjuez” and the one played by Narciso Yepes, playing with 10 string. I come to love the song a lot since. I don’t know much about the strings but I see what you mean when Shilan is playing the krar and his second hand is not doing much.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxwceLlaODM

          Berhe

      • saay7

        Hey Fanti:

        ….also, apropos nothing, why are there 2,000 Ethiopian songs about Bati? Unless the cameraman has been lying to me…that thing can’t possibly inspire that many songs 🙂

        Saay

        • Fanti Ghana

          Selamat Saay,

          Only 2000?

          Abi was right after all, we have been in wars for far too long.

          Bati is the quintessential definition of “LOVE.” It is a small town, strategically placed on the way to Asab. As you go up the hills from Combolcha, there is a hill obstructing the view of the town, but just before the town there is a fruit garden where they make fresh juice that is out of this world. So, before one gets to the town, their mood is already positive. Hade beleley.

          The up ward slope to get to it forces most vehicles but definitely tracks to stop to cool their brakes and fill up their tanks because the next civilization after that is Mile. Way too far and extremely hot for tracks. Same story on inbound traffic too, so, stopping is mandatory. Most track drivers of my era were Eritreans. Kilte beleley.

          The great majority of residents are Muslims with a strong Oromo and Amhara background. The surrounding villages are majority Oromo, but the town is well mixed. The people are the most loving and super honest. I can’t describe them enough, but it is like someone picked all the good hearted people of the region and put them there for safe keeping. Seleste do?

          The mixed nature of the traffic, the loving and God fearing personality of the residents, the food, the surrounding beautiful panoramic views combined leaves no room for any other emission in ones mind but love.

          Sample:
          A friend and I lived there for three months. We “rented a huge “korkoro geza” for 5 birr a month. Every month, the landlord kept insisting we pay the following month. Three months later, he refused to accept the rent. He was a police man with 75 birr/mo. salary.

          “Selam shai bet” was owned by an Eritrean named Birhane. We fought with him daily the entire three months, because he had threateningly instructed his cashier, Eshete, not to charge us for tea, bani, or rigueo, effectively everything, that is.

          Do you want me to continue with the story of “Yeslamna yamara migb bet” owned by the same guy?

          That was early 70s.

          • saay7

            Hey Fanti:

            I guess what you are saying is over at this mystical and mythical place called Bati (Bati, Bati, Bati), there are no guys named: Difabachew: Gelbite: Azbite: Gizachew: Shiferaw: Getachew and all the other violent names that Abi likes?😂

            I always thought every Ethiopian singer-wanna-be has to do a bad version of Bati and Tzta to get their singer’s license Is that true? 🙂

            saay

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selam Saay,

            True, plus Ambasel.

          • saay7

            Fanti:

            Oh how could I forget: ambassel, tribute to a cliff 🙂

            Almost as funny as Kerenites singing about Keren 😂

            saay

          • Abi

            Saaytanish
            ” አምባሰል ለገደል መች ያሽሟጥጡታል
            ፈረስ ባያስጋልብ ማር ይቆርጡበታል”

          • saay7

            Hey Abi:

            For those who don’t get my sense of humor (I mean besides Amanuel), here are three editions of

            1. Ambasel: https://youtu.be/ycyVMt3K800 (mercifully the masinko is drowned)
            2. Bati: https://youtu.be/lKnqPschcVs (Eyob hated this)
            3. Tzta: https://youtu.be/Uq5bq-Ic354 (Had to choose between Mahmud, Kuku and Vahe and had to choose one)

            saay

          • Abi

            Saaytanish
            I did not listen to your music selection yet. I promise I will. However, if you never listened Bezawork Asfaw singing Tizita, you are probably a century late. Need to catch up buddy.

          • Abi

            Thanks Saay
            Question first
            From Ambasel
            ለማማት ቢሄዱ የሚያስኮንን ቢሆን
            ለነፍሱስ የሚያድረው የሚያርፈው ማን ይሆን?
            What is he saying?
            My kind of song. Beautiful!!!!!

            Bati skipped
            Give me Maritu Legesse ( የባቲ ንግስት)

            Tizita skipped
            Give me Bezawork Asfaw. (Nobody played Tizita like her)

            33.333333/100
            Grade F

          • saay7

            Hey Abi:

            Oh, man, all that’s missing is “senef!”and you would have been a good Ethiopian teacher 😂

            Saay

          • Abi

            Saaytanish
            ሰነፍ ለተማሪ ፣ቀሽም ለጏደኛ
            እንደ አንተ አይነት ፋራ አላየንም እኛ!

          • saay7

            Abi:

            Here’s Ethiopias Halima Abdurahman doing a cover of Eritreas Yemane Barya and his “ambibeyo”. It’s a good TSL (Tigrinya as second language) for Amharic-speakers. No masinko, chra wata and other primitive famfam were used in the making of the song:)

            https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=NDGkoqdncrg

            saay

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selam Saay,

            You are so in trouble man. I knew Halima on another song, but I didn’t know she did this one. A double whammy for me.

            By the way, your “fara-ness” reminded me something.

            There use to be a slow young boy whose job was, like many boys of the time, herding cows. One day, the cows came home at their usual time, but the kid was missing. So, his mother was desperately running house to house pleading for his whereabouts.

            Once our turn, she run into my father right at the door, and after telling her no he didn’t see him, but he will send the boys, referring to me and my brother, to help her.

            As he was heading to the backyard my mother asked what the commotion was. He goes: “finally, the cows lost the boy.” He, later on, made it more funnier by insisting that he was not joking.

            PS:
            It had gold/wax in its original form, but I am too tired for 3 way translation. Remind me, if you get into Raya Tigrigna mood someday.

          • saay7

            Fanti:

            Super-classic 😂😂

            Don’t ruin it by translating: whatever u come up can’t be funnier than what I imagined ur dad saying 🙂 looks like a scene from the American cartoon “The Far Side”, where the cows are always smarter than the humans.

            saay

            PS: your dad sounds amazing.

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selamat Saay,

            He was a book worthy. I knew him more when I spend a couple of weeks with a huge group of Mekele high school teachers now in the States. Long story.

            Remeber Abi’s parent’s “ባለ በጎቹ መጡ?” My laugh attack was exasperated when I imagined my father as their neighbor. I never laughed that hard in the last half of my life.

    • GitSAtSE

      Selamat Saay7,

      More is less. I am clapping with one arm, because with the left I am chucking a tomatoe bound on target. Wise to wear on the Apollo Stage. 125th! Harlem Star Voyager you.
      SEVEN ATE NINE. “Blast off on the Space Ship.” Captain Cellist.

      tSAtSE

      • Fanti Ghana

        Selam GitSAtSE,

        I just figured the secret of your magic my man.

        Check all possible words similar to eating … done,
        Check all possible words similar to food and its components… done,
        Decorate … done,
        Put together so that it make sense to mortals … how mortal should I take it?
        All the way down … done,
        Display … “I am chucking a tomatoe bound on target.”

        It is all a matter of processing speed!
        Never mind the too deep to analyze “I am clapping with one arm” while discussing chira waTa, but let’s do the “simple” stuff.

        Those of us working on 16 bit processor would have said “I am eating” and called it a day.
        The lucky ones with 32 bit processor might add “I agree with you Saay. I am eating fitfit now, but I will say more later.”

        The super lucky ones with 64 bit processor would have said “I am eating and typing at the same time” and leave it at that thinking the target will understand the rest.

        To come up with a sentence you just did one needs a minimum of 128 bit processor, because it is not only the words but all possible sentences will have to be compared too.

        I hope to God you are in love with someone already, otherwise you will be the loneliest human on earth!
        Please know less so we can talk.

        • Paulos

          Fantination,

          You are our version Allan Turing!

        • GitSAtSE

          Selamat Fanti Ghana,

          I asked an Ethiopian aquaintance this evening, as we and his companion walked out of Arada Gebeya’s on Telegraph: “Have you ever seen a Blue Island?” His “no” was indicative of our collective hurry towards our respective destinations. However, our nearly decade long facial familiarity that is interchanged with the glance of an upward arc exposing the ivory won over to pause and listen to one another’s voice. His gentleman companion who was dictating the fast tempo put on the breaks as speaker and listener tuned for a perfect transmission and reception for the appropriate mutual send of towards our inevitable respective traveles into the night.
          The Voice: “Have you ever seeing a/(the) blue island?” “No.” “It is the painting in the restroom in Ras Armada’s Gebeya by an artist from Ghana.”
          “And it is in the ShiE ‘ouse?” “Well, Priceless art is can be said to be found in the shiE ‘ouse then.” “Haaa, the concave up familiar face returns to to the three as the necessary boost for their travels.”

          A Ghanaian Artist’s Blue Island with the The Green,Yellow,Red and Black Star, (in retrospect after learning from my inquiry to Ras Arada that the Artist is from Ghana. The signature on the lower right corner “Sharia”.)

          I will get back to you with regards to “in love” and “lonliest” response.
          Contemplate on the following virtual fortune cookie quote and the uni chop stick for the TiHlo dip:
          “A bird(/hand) is better than the bird(/fly) that flew away.” As well as an inverted lake, (Eilaa) in our Crimea surrounded on the border Red Earth is the equivalent to The BLUE Island at Sea encircled by the reflection of the color of Asmara’s Sky that is Blue. I see Blue Asmara, Abrehet and AbrahamH approaching your table with ye Weiny Tej. In a BIT by BIT by BIT CPU And A KiTkaTT,

          I will leave take leave of you for the moment in order to join my friend Paul seated with Aya Amanuel Hidrat, who are signaling me to join the Alchemists table.
          tSAtSE

  • Abi

    Thank you AT.
    I enjoyed it.

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