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ኣሸንዳን “ትግርኛን” Ashenda and “Tigrigna” أشنده والتجرنية

1. Ashenda: Tigraians heard my advice of last year.
2. AshanadaH (Kick Boxing): Memhir Amanuel Sahle assaulted us  (Tesahiluna) using tgrinya.
3. Statue: How about erecting a statue for Imam Ahmed Gragn?

If you remember, in last year’s Ashenda the Tigrayans were inflamed because it seems they faced hindrances in holding the festival at the Millenium Hall in Addis Ababa. I wondered why in the first place they wanted to hold a local Tigrayan festival in Addis Ababa! And out of solidarity I suggested something constructive. I say constructive because this year, they accepted  my suggestion that I provided in my Negarit Episode 18, on September 1, 2018.

Good job and I am happy I was of some help. But don’t swindle me claiming, “We thought of that on pour own!”

I am not sure of the exact financial gain out of this year’s Ashenda festival, but I heard many people turned out to celebrate it in Tigrai: how about a consultancy fee? It’s earned.

This time it would have been an appropriate payment since for many years, I and many of my colleagues were disparagingly accused of being funded by the Weyane.  Please do not send it with the fascists who are suckling from your tits. They are not trustworthy.

But Ashenda could compete with EnquTaTash/ Christmas, etc.

AshenadaH (Kick Boxing)

Amanuel Sahle. I respect the man a lot, and still do. That’s because in Tigrait (ours, the Eritrean Tigrayit language) there is a saying: qerimka semieE besir lideyyu. I would rather debate and communicate with Amanuel Sahle instead of a hundred declared fascists, who are basically hundred gourds—there is no difference.

My concern is: in his last speech, which surprised many of his previous students, unlike the philosopher Amanuel I perceived, he sounded more like Wedi-Sahle (Son-of-Sahle), he sounded a typical provincial.

After mentioning all the cross-border communities related to Eritrea, Amanuel said,  “…..it’s only the Tigrinya who does not get along well… what made them that way?” That is not true.

But there are important factors and I feel he didn’t want to mention them. Therefore, I would like to volunteer and tell him why.

Apart from the Tigrinya speakers, whose image he had in mind, Amanuel didn’t mention any Muslims at all. He didn’t mention the Saho speakers from the Highlands or the Danakil from the costal areas. But he said, “these Eritreans didn’t fight Italians, because it is not their country…” As outrageous as it is, it is not even half truth, it is a convenient lie, by omission.

Of course Amanuel knows that the Italians came during the reign of Yohannes, who was wreaking havoc all over the place: Tigrai, present Eritrea, Wollo, Afar-lands, etc. But in expanding. Is domain and controlling the people, Yohannes was not interested in Language (Tigrinya) as a bonding element He wanted his empire to be baptized and adopt his religion and he was forcing everyone to convert.

Now, if people were persecuted based on their faith, and they were overwhelmed by the violent hordes of Yohannes, what would they do? They will hold to any force that will protect them and they preferred to be under the Italians instead of the brute Yohannes. So, Amanuel didn’t want to say it, but the people who led the Italians to Asmara were in fact Eritrean Muslims. I will add to that, the first people who flocked to Hitmlo (Massawa) to be armed by the Italians were Muslims. They had enough persecution and they wanted to protect themselves from Yohannes and his hordes.

Until then, the Muslims were not interested in wars and some of them were not armed at all. Because of that, they were uprooted from their lands and were interned at the camp of Tekhlai and Gebru, both lieutenants of Alula, king Yohannes’ general.

See! The lands of highland Eritrea were taken by Alula’s settlers, based on the 490-year residence law (deqi-40) that Alula imposed. And the original residents became prisoners and were in internship in several places.

Grieved by the situation, the Naib of Massawa contemplated a sanction against the Abyssinian king and threatened to close the port of Massawa if Yohannes didn’t stop mistreating the Muslims. That is when Alula decided to have Degiat Hailu of Tzaazega sponsor the Muslims—just like a present day Saudi kefil (Sponsor).

If any Muslims ventured outside the internship camp, Alula’s soldiers harassed them based on their religion, until they explained they were “Aslam Degezmati”, sponsored by the Degiat of Tzaazega. These are the Muslims, together with others in similar situations in the highlands, who flocked to Massawa to be armed by the Italians. Not because they wanted to surrender their freedom (and they had none), but to protect themselves, their lives which were the only thing they had.

So, I am disappointed by Wedi Sahle because he sounded like a third-rate scholar, unlike what I expected. I believe he should have shunned the notion of “History is written by the victorious”. Instead, should have held and pursued the notion that history is told by true scholars, brave scholars who would tell the truth to the most ruthless of tyrants—regardless of the repercussion. I am disappointed Wedi-Sahle sounded like an ideologue, a party cadre, when he should have stayed a scholar.

Wedi-Sahle said, “If Tigrinya speakers do not unite, we will go back to the old problems, Amhara, etc….”

I thought he spoke Italian! I will not delve into grammar because I do not versed in it. But my little Italian language familiarity helps here.

In Italian, a plural is constructed with an “I” vowel at the end.. Zagno becomes Zangi, Regno becomes Regni, Segno become Segni. Surprise! Tigrigna becomes Tigringi. Tigringi is the plural of Tigrigna (which by the way is Tigrinya), do not try to give it a mythical origin dating back to centuries. Simply it is gli Tigringni di Tigrai. Half of what these groups (who profess linguistic and religious supremacy) holds as a slogan is Italian. They could say, Tgrawot, not Tgrigni, unless they are Italians or speaking in Italian. I told you, I am here to bust myths, call me myth buster.

That my friends, is the very reason the overwhelming number of Eritreans fear—going to the old ways of pillaging, invasions, religious harassment and the like. In this, I confidently say, all genuine Eritreans, those who believe in Eritrea, and aspire for freedom, justice and peace, whether Christians or Muslims, whether lowlanders of highlanders or coastal region dwellers, agree. Fully.

I would also like to remind the fascists to stop threatening other Eritreans by wielding the Tigrinya stick (Northern Ethiopia). But why do they think they are the only ones who can forge cross-border alliances? Don’t they know alliances are open to all if it gets to that? Are the regions south of Eritrea the sole ownership of Tigrinya speakers, their reserve forces? What is there to prevent other Eritreans from forging similar alliances… be it in the south, east, or north of Eritrea?

I hope they stop this losing, destructive rhetoric, the “gorge heads” are salivating by what some ideologues are preaching. But if they get their way, we can only see a copy of ISIS, Daesh—this time in a Tewahdo garb. The only difference is when an Isis rascal slaughters an innocent person he will cry “Allahu ASkbar”, while our fascists would cry, “In the name of the father, the son, and the holy ghost”. Identical.

Sadly, this is the 21st century—any such provocations are so costly and instead, one should preach humanity’s goals and values of the century—justice, peace, and freedom for all. And if anyone thinks Eritreans will give in to blackmailing and give away their country, it must be an utter stupidity.

May Eritrea be protected by internal, external and in between ill wishers. May it prevail with the determination of its children, all of them, under the slogan of Justice. Peace, and freedom.

Finally, in the future, I would like to do a comparative narration about the history of Ahmed Gragn. Of course, there are two narrations. But so far, the church narration is overwhelming and it has been adopted by the majority of Abyssinians. But there is another narration that many Abyssinians not not know about. Was the Gragn invasions that are kept alive as if it happened yesterday, a myth, a lie, a misunderstanding, a civil war, or an invasion. What was it. I will not wait for Wedi Sahle but I will be delighted if he changes from his language-centric rhetoric and tries to reclaim his scholarly credentials. Until then, I plan to dedicate an episode on Imam Ahmed AlGhazi, known as Gragn,  very soon.

I will try to demolish the myth that Abyssinians have been bombarded with for five centuries.

Stay well.

About Saleh "Gadi" Johar

Born and raised in Keren, Eritrea, now a US citizen residing in California, Mr. Saleh “Gadi” Johar is founder and publisher of awate.com. Author of Miriam was Here, Of Kings and Bandits, and Simply Echoes. Saleh is acclaimed for his wealth of experience and knowledge in the history and politics of the Horn of Africa. A prominent public speaker and a researcher specializing on the Horn of Africa, he has given many distinguished lectures and participated in numerous seminars and conferences around the world. Activism Awate.com was founded by Saleh “Gadi” Johar and is administered by the Awate Team and a group of volunteers who serve as the website’s advisory committee. The mission of awate.com is to provide Eritreans and friends of Eritrea with information that is hidden by the Eritrean regime and its surrogates; to provide a platform for information dissemination and opinion sharing; to inspire Eritreans, to embolden them into taking action, and finally, to lay the groundwork for reconciliation whose pillars are the truth. Miriam Was Here This book that was launched on August 16, 2013, is based on true stories; in writing it, Saleh has interviewed dozens of victims and eye-witnesses of Human trafficking, Eritrea, human rights, forced labor.and researched hundreds of pages of materials. The novel describes the ordeal of a nation, its youth, women and parents. It focuses on violation of human rights of the citizens and a country whose youth have become victims of slave labor, human trafficking, hostage taking, and human organ harvesting--all a result of bad governance. The main character of the story is Miriam, a young Eritrean woman; her father Zerom Bahta Hadgembes, a veteran of the struggle who resides in America and her childhood friend Senay who wanted to marry her but ended up being conscripted. Kings and Bandits Saleh “Gadi” Johar tells a powerful story that is never told: that many "child warriors" to whom we are asked to offer sympathies befitting helpless victims and hostages are actually premature adults who have made a conscious decision to stand up against brutality and oppression, and actually deserve our admiration. And that many of those whom we instinctively feel sympathetic towards, like the Ethiopian king Emperor Haile Sellassie, were actually world-class tyrants whose transgressions would normally be cases in the World Court. Simply Echoes A collection of romantic, political observations and travel poems; a reflection of the euphoric years that followed Eritrean Independence in 1991.

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This is a script that I used for Negarit 57, my series on youtube recorded …

  • Hameed Al-Arabi

    Ahlan Awates,

    When the Italians threw light flares that illuminate battlefield, Allula said his famous saying, “ምስ እግዛበሄር መን ይዋጋእ” and escaped to his homeland, Tigrai. The highland of Eritrea had breathed freedom after the ran away of the crude.

    Al-Arabi

  • Hameed Al-Arabi

    Ahlan Awates,

    ቅበጽዋ ኤሪትራ ከምጡብ ኣደኹም

    Amanuel Sahle didn’t drop by his topic, Tigrai-Tigrinia, from the blue at this juncture of time. Moreover, he wouldn’t dare to declare it without the consent of TPLF and Abie Ahmed. To understand the whole picture, we have to return a little back, and trace changes occurred in the region from the inception of the Meddamer project of Abie Ahmed. The project was followed by handing over Eritrea to Abie Ahmed.

    The pact between Isaias and Abie Ahmed succeeded by massive propaganda of Ethiopia is a big country, and Eritrea can not survive without the assistance of Ethiopia. Borders opened, and the scarce Ethiopian commodities overwhelmed Eritrean markets. They have given the impression of richness to some naive Eritreans. However, it was unsuccessful in influencing the majority of Eritreans. Rallies of Eritreans flooded the world-famous cities. Those rallies caused despair among the masters of the Meddamer project. The widespread protests curbed Abie Ahmed and Isaias surge. Borders closed again in front of the flow of commodities from the meager resourced Ethiopia to punish Eritreans. The failure of their first campaign forced Meddamer guys to shift to plan B.

    In plan B, Abie Ahmed started to reconcile with TPLF, and Isaias who has felt life in the Eritrean people began to suffocate them more. He closed the Catholic Church clinics and Islamic schools in Keren and performed a campaign of innocent Eritreans imprisonment. Abie Ahmed and Isaias’ efforts didn’t confine here. Both – Abie Ahmed and Isaias – will continue their Meddamer project until being trampled under the Eritrean people’s resilience, persistence, and defiance.

    I think we have come across a rumor that says Isaias will reconcile with TPLF, but this rumor disappeared within a short time. It seems they have conceived that this ploy will not work, especially with the supporters of the regime. As a result, they have shifted to their next famous scheme of divide and rule, Tigrai-Tigrinia. TPLF has become the holder of this banner in their capital city, Mekelle. They thought this deceit will make a breakthrough in distracting Eritreans. However, they have failed in dividing the people of Eritrea again and again. Nothing will deviate the people of Eritrea after their enemies exposed even to the blind and deaf.

    Furthermore these days, we observe that Amanuel Sahle and Isaias are playing in harmony on the same chord of partition between the people of Eritrea. Their play is very clear for those who could read the scene properly. Amanuel Sahle invites for Tigrai-Tigrinia, and Isaias intimidates highlanders by sending messages that show that he could empower lowlanders. For instance, he wore the lowland attire in Sawa; aired the Eid prayer for the first time on his TV and many more messages to whom it may concern. Isaias doesn’t know that lowlanders do not seek empowerment at the expense of their compatriots the highlanders.

    Amanuel Sahle’s move has a direct relation with the Meddamer project. At the end of the day, Abie Ahmed, Isaias, and Amauel Sahle have a common mission. These guys and their likes have sworn to erase Eritrea and her people from the map of the world. Again there are many cards in the hands of the Eritrean people to fight back and push these guys to despair.

    We have observed in the previous rallies that Eritreans have closed all doors in front of Abie Ahmed and Isaias. Now, required from all Eritreans in the diaspora to rally in front of the United Nations and key nations in the world to inform them about the Ethiopian interference in the internal affairs of Eritrea. They have also should demonstrate in front of the Ethiopian embassies requesting them to refrain from intervening in the Eritrean issues. Without a doubt, this will be a message of dismay (ቅብጸት) to all concerned entities – Ethiopia, TPLF, Amanuel Sahle, and his likes. They should understand that Eritrea and her people found to exist forever lofty among the world nations. No Meddamer! No Tigrai-Tigrinia! No Agazian! Ethiopia and her satellites should keep their hands away from Eritrea.

    Eritreans who propagate for annexation to Ethiopia, Tigrai-Tigrinia, or Agazian will automatically lose their Eritrean citizenship and tomorrow will try them for high treason.

    Al-Arabi

  • Hameed Al-Arabi

    Ahlan Awates,

    Eritreans who propagate for annexation with Ethiopia, Tigrai-Tigrinia, and Agazian will automatically lose their Eritrean citizenship and will try them for high treason in the future.

    Al-Arabi

    • Kim Hanna

      Selam Hameed Al-Arabi,

      You never seem to take a pause from your constant agitation to continue that unending ….”circular journey” or quest of fanning conflicts. It is in your DNA.

      Tigrai was and is the core of Ethiopia. Tigrinia are Eritreans, for the most part, who have a soft spot in their hearts towards their cousins to the south. (And vice versa.)
      After you and I are dead and gone, this realty will continue despite the efforts of all the subsequent ….”Al-Arabis”.

      As to the main points of the article. I am never surprised as to what prominent activists write. I just file it as a version of events. I have read other versions and I might read yet again another one.

      Few years ago, I read a book written by Mengistu Hailemariam, the former Ethiopian leader. I was not disappointed. He laid out his own version of events and his own interpretation of the events that took place. Mind you, he had written on matters that we have a real time experience on. I am sure he was writing for those who are a little removed from it. (He should have waited to release the book a hundred years from now.)
      The only thing that I was expecting but was not in the book was he didn’t ask for the Nobel peace prize or some kind of humanitarian award.
      BTW, he promised to write in his 2nd book about the Eritrean problem in his time. I can’t wait to read it, if it is not too expensive to buy.
      As the world turns.

      Mr. K. H

      • Hameed Al-Arabi

        Ahlan Kim Hanna,

        Any nation has the full right to protect her sovereignty, and lawsuit any country that interferes with her internal issues. Ethiopia or part of her (Tigrai) has to stop her intrusion in the Eritrean issues. At present, we could protest in front of United Nations offices to show our objection to her ploys.

        Al-Arabi

    • Senay Zer

      Dear Hameed — No.

      • Hameed Al-Arabi

        Ahlan Senay Zer,

        What is your reason behind saying No?

        Al-Arabi

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    Selamat!

    ባርኖስ ዶ ኣንበጣ
    ኣሸኻኻል ዓለም ዶ ገበጣ
    ዓደስ ዶ ሰላጣ
    ክሹፍ ዶ ባርኔጣ
    ነዛ ዘይዓበየት ሰብኣይ
    ክጸፍዓ ዶ ከጉስጣ
    ዶ ዋላስ ክጎብጣ

    ኣንታ ታይ ኢኻ ትብል?

    ሓንስብ ውዑይ ሓንሳብ ዝሑል
    ሓንሳብ ጎዲም ሓንሳብ ስሑል
    ሓንሳብ ኣብራር ሓንሳእ ወዲ ትኹል
    እወ ንሱ እቲ ድሁል
    ቀደም ሰብ ኣይ ይመስል ኔሩ ሕጅ ግን ድዑል
    ሰይ! ናብ ናይ ህግደፍ ባቡር ስቕል

    እዋይ ውርደት
    ወዲ ኣዳም ን ሃገረይ ከምዘይበለት
    ቅይር ናብ መሽረፈት

    ሃውቲተ ዶ?
    ሓቅኻ ባርኖስ ‘ንድዩ እኽለይ በሊዑዎ
    ኣየናይ ባሮኖስ ከይትብለኒ መን ኢልዎ
    ኣብ ገለ ፋብሪካ መን ከምዝሰርሕዎ
    መን ፈሊጥዎ

    ግን
    ትዝዓበየ ባርኖስ
    ንዝግኒ ዝቐየራ ኣብ ዓደስ
    መዓልታዊ ኣብ ቲቪ ኤረ ዝውደስ
    ካብ ‘ንዳ ስግሬቶ ዘይፍደስ
    ዝዛረቦ ኩሉ ሃበስ-ቀደስ

    ክንጽረለይ ጀሚሩ ቀጽል

    ሎሚ ደኣ መን ‘ዶ ‘ሎ
    እቲ ሃጸይ ናይ ዓዲ-ሃሎ
    ሓድ ገጂፍ ሽላ ቦግ የብሎ
    ክንደይ ይጥዕም ዘረባ
    ኣሜን ንበሎ

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Mahandsay,

      Wow! Please Keep up the flow. Keep your fountain pen to supply us with food for our thoughts. Writing poem to you is effortless. They flow like a running river. The running river contains all kind of thoughts, ideas, and memories in your mind and ejected them in a poetic form with aesthetic and rhythmic qualities – that sometimes evoke emotive responses. I always read your poems with smiles.

      Regards

      • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

        Thanks a lot, Emma!
        Your comments radiate positive energy!

  • Haile S.

    ሰላም ሰብ እዋተ፡

    እዚ ዝስዕብ ግጥሚ ነዞም ትግራይ-ትግሪኚ ዝብሃል ሕማም ለቢድዎም ዝዛረቡ ዘልዉ ምሁራን ዝምልከት እዩ።

    ስዒሞም ወዲኦምና
    ክሳብ ዝነቅዕ መንከስና
    ብምስዓም ከድቅቑና
    ብዕብራን ከሕቁቑና
    ካን ኣሸንጉሊት ጌሮምና!
    የዘክሩና ዓባይና
    ሓውቲ’ኖና
    ከይንትሓቛቖፍ ምስ ሓውና ሓውትና
    ኣብ መዓሙቕ ውሽጥና
    ክንዝንግዕ ሃገርና

    ኣንቱም ናትና Gene እንተሃለወኩም
    እንተሃለወና እውን ናትኩም
    መን ክሒዱ? ብዝምድና ትቐርቡና ንቐርበኩም
    ብሃገራዊነት ግና፡ ኣይትብጽሑና ኣይንብጽሓኩም
    ደምኩም ዘፍሰስኩምላ ኣላትኩም
    ሕጂ’ውን ንዓኣ ኣፍስሱላ በይዛኩም

    ኢትዮጵያ እናትና ምባል ገዲፍኩሞ
    ንዝሓለፈ 20 ዓመታት ዝተሰለፍኩሞ ረሲዕኩሞ
    ሕጂ ትግራይ ትግሪኚ ኣብ ሕልምኹም ረኺብኩሞ
    ……… ትግራይ ትግሪኚ ትማሊ ዝመጸ
    ………. ጥልያን ካብ ኤርትራ ምስ ወጸ
    ኤርትራ-ንመን ኣብዝተባህለሉ ዝተቐርጸ

    ካን ኰንኩም! ናብ ሕምብርቶም ዝጥምቱ
    ‘ሓዎም’ ሃገር ከምዘለዎ ዘይደልዩ ክፈልጡ
    ዝደልዩ ኣብ እግሮም ክኣቱ ገዲፉ ናቱ
    ፍንጫሕ መሰንገሉ ደቂ ሃገሩ ረጥሪጡ
    ወጹብ! ኣንቱም
    ናቶም ኣቐሚጦም ብናይ ካልእ ዝዋጠጡ
    ንታሕቲ ንጎኒ ሕጂ ኸኣ ንላዕሊ ዘዕለብጡ
    ልምዲ ዶ ኮይንኩም ‘ሓውትኹም’ ምሕንፋጡ

    ስምዑኒ እስኪ
    ምጥምጥ፡ ስዕም፡ ጌሮሞ መሳርያ
    ርእስና ኣዚሮም ኮፍ ከብሉና ኣብ መጋርያ
    …………….. ኤርትራ ኤርትራና ኤርትራ ኮይናቶም መርዚ
    ትግሪኚ ይብሉ እኒኦም ቆጺሮም ከምዘየለ መረብ ውሓዚ

    ፍቕርኹም ኣበይ ካይከደና
    ጽልኢ መራሕትኹም ለሚድናዮ ኢና
    “ኣሕዋቶም” ሰዊኦም ዝዛመዱ ምስ ጓና
    ዝምድና መሳርያ ምዃኑ ነቒሕናዮ ኢና

    በይዛኹም ፍቕሪ ንጽቡቕ ኣተግብርዎ
    ንገዝእ ኔርና ክንገዝእ ሐዚ፡ ግደፍዎ
    ፈጢርኩም Baradas ዘይነበረ ኣይትምሃዝዎ
    Bermudez ማለትኩም እንተኾይኑ ጽቡቕ ኣድምጽዎ
    ንሱ’ውን እንተኾነ ሓማሴን ትግራይ’ያ ኣይወጾን ፍለጥዎ
    ንህዝቢ ክሰምዖ ዝደሊ ጥራይ ምንጋር ኣብቅዕዎ
    ናይ ታሪኽ ምሁር ሓላፍነት ኣይትዘንግዕዎ
    እታ ዝተባህለት ጸሚቑካ ምቕራብ’ዩ፡ ዓቅብዮ

    ክትደልዩ ትምርኮዙ ሓደ ጻዕዳ ኣብ ዝበሎ ዘይበሎ
    ካይትደልዩ ትኹኑኑ ገዛኢ ጻዕዳ ዶብ ዝተኸሎ
    እዚ ኩሉ ዓቕሊ-ጽበት ክኸውን የብሉን ድንጋይ ኣለሎ
    ደራቢኹም ትቐትልሉ ንእትብልዎ ሓወይ ሓውተይ ኩሕሎ

  • said

    Greeting
    Simon Kaleab and alike
    Tell me who you cannot criticize and I will tell you who is your master”. Attributed to Voltaire.

    Most third world countries are “puppet state” and merely tools of Western governments. The west should stop inserting itself into the domestic affair of the third world countries . The west does not want to see them grow any stronger economically and many of this nation desperately trying to gain or retain them, their economic and freedom . The people of third world countries must not be forced to live oppressed under authoritarian rule, the people continue to press for the rights they have and the rights they deserve. it is important to understand why .let me give you cocktail and mishmash, nothing in order and examples may help you understand. It is also worth pointing out geopolitics and the complexities which I am not qualified to answer you . I wrote about religious coexistence and with respect. in Eritrea , Christian and Muslims are equally and are first class Eritrean .
    As people we live well together in peace and harmony and their identity is placed in the fact that they are neighbors. And humanity needs to be respected and Passion for understanding others, living together, and working toward a common goal and vision is very “ Eritrean .” and very “human.”
    Progress It has nothing to do with any religion , I will give few examples to show you progress and development is not linked to region or religion .Muslim are every where in poor countries and in rich countries for very long time
    You may seem to be unaware that Islam is now America’s third largest religion and may soon surpass the number of Jews. In Canada, Muslims are already the second religion and the same in France and UK they contribute positively .
    Please read history and draw lessons from it . from any countries you which and you find the answer . The Wester countries mainly British, French Spanish and Portuguese have exploited and plundered and colonized third world countries and slave labor economy and Africa in particular for hundred of years took their natural resources for free and developed their nation .What you do think it is the deference of highly developed and more prosperous South Korea and not north Korea. Today China’s more prosperous and $590 bn worth of exports to the US and export $150 to poor African countries and not thirty years ago . Beijing, which runs an Orwellian police state on the mainland. Everyone remembers the long, bloody Cultural Revolution of 1960 and 1970’s with its rampaging Red Guards and millions people disappeared. this may sounds completely crazy to you, China dark and ugly bloody Taiping Rebellion. A nobody named Hong Xiuqan chinses Christian proclaimed himself the brother of Jesus and raised a vast peasant army to overthrow the ruling Manchu dynasty in Beijing. Brutal civil war raged from 1850-1864 in which up to 100 million are believed to have been killed or died of famine. And remember Tiananmen Square and blood bath repression China imposed on Tibet and Muslim regions could be repeated in Hong Kong. And zero freedom afforded by China. Communist authoritarianism exhibited by the Chinese government.
    What do you think the Second Coming of Christ. And Christianity leading to the Battle of Armageddon, and the return of Jesus. China today face protests began in late March Hong Kong “One country, two systems” agreement whereby the British, after decades of imperialist rule over Hong Kong, ceded it back to China in 1997. The British forced Beijing to accept a number of conditions such as the agreement that Hong Kong would draft a mini-Constitution and retain its capitalist system, own currency, legal and legislative system as well as individual rights and freedoms. However, this agreement was only to last for fifty years, for me China is a communist nightmare, with virtually no rights
    Many countries central America and south America.
    How do explain Venezuela number one oil reserve in world and could easily be the richest? Yet it is one of the poorest .Do think religion have any thing to do with it Congo sits on lucrative natural resources list of reserves included copper, gold, cobalt, Lithium, Tantalum, and Niobium, lithium on which the present-day industry is heavily dependent. And reserves of precious metals . Congo today is one the poorest country .and what do you think about Cambodia Plot Pot regime that killed millions of Cambodian . let me quote you , which western countries supported the genocidal Khmer Rouge’s claim to leadership for over a decade after its overthrow at the hands of invading Vietnamese forces in 1978-1979.;

    In spring, Ukraine the presidential elections were won by Volodymyr Zelensky, a showman and 3rd rate comedian who had never been involved in politics before. Petro Poroshenko hasn’t accepted the defeat .The Ukrainians don’t trust the former president, and a criminal case against him .
    Poroshenko’s sleeve have strong support Orthodox Church of Ukraine (OCU) which was created by the former president and unites many of those loyal to him. In Ukraine, Poroshenko created an image of an uncompromising fighter for religiosity. During the election campaign, his political consultants stressed that he formed the first recognized independent Church in the Ukrainian history. what got religion got to do with it for his defeat
    just 30 years ago before 30th anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall why was former East Germany much poorer than the west Germany. The vast majority of east Germans believed their chances for a decent life were better in “west Germany”. this goes the same for all former east European countries. Germany’s 10 million casualties in WWII, 75% were inflicted by the Red Army. Soviet forces lost upwards of 20 million men. What got religion to do with it
    some of the answer you find .Please find link to better understand about extremism by James Zogby
    The Abuse of Religion to Foster Extremism Is a Universal Phenomenon

    https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/07/29/abuse-religion-foster-extremism-universal-phenomenon

  • ዓዋተ ብርኪ ሊሎ
    አስከ ኣስትውዕሉሉ ኣስተውዕሎ
    ብሕልፊ
    ኣብ ዘክሮቶት በዓላት ዝሃርፋ
    ህዝቢ ብሓፈሻ ኢዩ ተስፋ
    ዋላ ዋላ ፍርቂ ግራም ናይ ታዕሪፋ

    ናትካ አወ ብፍላይ ጎደሎ
    ብርሃን ሪኡ ዘይፈልጥ ንነብሱ ዝተዳህሎ
    ፍጹም በረኸት ከም ዘይዓስሎ
    ብማዕልቲ ሰኸምካ ስቓይ ስብ ከብል ሰለሎ
    ተስኪምካ ንጣብ ማይ ዘይብላ ሳንኬሎ

    ኣን ኣሎኒ ዝብሎ
    ዋላ ሕተታ ነዛ ትበርር ዘላ ሊሎ
    ሓቅኻ ሓቅኻ አዚኣስ ኪሎ
    ናተይ ኢያ ‘ዛ ኪሎ
    ዘይ ኢያ ክንዲ ሺሕ
    ፈታዊኣ ኣዝያ ተንቅሕ
    ራኢ ህዝባ ብግብሪ ተስፍሕ
    ተባህርር ተጻባኢኣ ተሰምበድ ኣዝያ ተፍርሕ
    ዋሃቢት ሕድሪ ስልቲ መጻኢ ወለዶ ተጉርሕ
    ሑ ሕ ሑ ሕ

    አወ ኪሎ ኣንቱም ዕንክሊሊሎ
    ናተይ ሲ ናተይ ኢያ ‘ዛ ኪሎ
    አወ ክንዲ ጎቦ አምባ ቶኺሎ
    አዛ ኪሎ
    ወርቃዊት መጥን ናይ ዓቐን

    አዋይ አዚ ኹሉ ሓዘን
    አሞ ኸኣ ብ ደርዘን

    መዓልቲ መዓልቲ አንዳ ኣተኻ
    ቤት መቕደስ ክትአዝን
    ከተስተንትን ካን ኣኺሉካ ንሰይጣን
    ደኒንካስ ከተድንን ኣንት ድኑን
    ቀርዲድካ መታቲርካ ክትሓልብ ጸባ
    ካብ ሽጉርቲ
    ትምህርቲ
    ኣየ ንስኻ አቲ በዓል ድግሪ
    ዝስራዕ ናትካ ከም ሳዕሪ
    ኣንታ በዓል ጻዕሪ

    በል ናይታ ሕቶኻ ሕቶ ዝበርሐ ጾግሪ
    ባዶ ኪሎ ኢዩ ምዘኖ በል ክትረከብ ክብሪ
    ባዶ ኪሎ
    ኢያ ናትይሲ አታ ኪሎ ክንዲ አምባ ቶኺሎ
    አንካብ ኣዚሎ።

    አዚ ኹሉ ግየጽየጽ
    ኣየብልን ዶ ሃጽ?
    ጠልቂኻ ዓርከይ ኴንካ ርሃጽ
    ብ ረሃጽ
    ይዓምር ይድመቕ አዚ ጓይላና ሕጂስ መንደቕ ጋሃጽ
    ሓንሳብ ይኣኽለካ ሞ ሕጅስ በል ስቕ
    ን ቁሩብ ደጋይግ ደጊጋ ደቒቕ።

    ሰልስካ ኑውራንስካ ኣክበልና ምስቲ ቆርበት
    አንታይ ኢዩ ጠንቁ አዚ ኩሉ ዓቕሊጽበት

    ቕደም ቀዳድም ኣብ ባህልና ኣዚዩ ዙውቱር
    በረኸታቱ ተቐቢሉ ኢዩ ዝብል ተመስገን
    ናትካ ተጋንን ግን
    ዝን
    ደጋጊምካ ጋነንካ ሰይጣን
    ከተትክኽ ከተምክኽ ዕጣን

    ናትና ኣብ መሳጊድና ቤተክርስትያን
    ክብል ኣል ሓምዱ ሊ’ኣላሂ ረብና ዓለሚን
    ዎ ኣምላኸይ አዚ ኩሉ ተሰግረ ኩርባታት
    ዝተሓፍሰ ዓወት ይብለካ ተመስገን
    ኣሎ ዘይተጸብጽበበ ብዙሕ ሓበን።

    ናይ ገለ ሰባት ስርሒት ግን
    ሓንጢጦም ኣስተውዕሉ ተሓንጊጦም
    ኣዝዩ ብዙሕ ዘስደምም
    ሃገር ዝህምም
    ሓንቲ ቃና ሒዞም
    አዝኒ ሰብ ዘጽምም
    ባህሪያት ሰብ ዝስምም
    ክቅምሙ ሓደገኛ ቀመም

    ይኽደነና ካብቲ ደኒኑ ዘድንን
    ኢና ሰብ ጽሩብ ጽፍሪ
    ብሩህ ሕብሪ ዘይብሉ ቁጽሪ
    ናይ ፍቕሪ
    ኣይንድንን ኣይንናደን
    አዚ ጉሁድ ዓወት ውን
    ዝለ ዝኾን ክውን ናይ ግድን!

    ዝን…

    ጃሽዋ!

    ጻጸ

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    Selamat Awate!
    Sorry, this is the last for today

    ሓደ ተረገም
    ናይ ርእሲ ሓኪም
    ይመጸልኩም

    100 ሰባት ሃቡኒ ይብል
    ሓደ ግሩፕ ዝህብ ትካልኣይ ዝምንጥል

    ማለቱ
    ነቶም ከምዚ ከማይ ትዝሕሉ
    ትሓደ ደጋፊ
    ትሕደ ድማ ነቓፊ
    ወረ ኣንጻሩ ተሰላፊ

    ክምርምሮም ኢሉ ይወስዶም
    ‘ቶም ደገፍቲ ብጫ ማልያ ይዕድሎም
    ንደለይቲ ፍትሒ ሰማያዊ ማልያ ግበሩ ይብሎም
    ተዓዲሎም!

    ሓደ ብሓደ ክትምርመር ትኣቱ
    ኣንታ ‘ንታይ መዓቱ!

    መቸም ‘ቲ መርመራ ተወዲኡ
    ብፍኒስትራ ኢሳይስ ይርኢ ተሓቢኡ

    ሓዲሽ ነገር ተሰመዐ
    ውዑይ ቢስተካ ‘ናበለዐ
    ድምጹ ከየስመዐ
    ከመይ ደኣ!

    ድሕሪ መርመራ
    ዶተረ ይኸፍታ ‘ታ ቦስጣ
    ምስኡ ግን ኔሩ በዓል ቁምጣ
    ብዘየገድስ

    በዓል ብጫ ማልያ
    ሕልኛኻ ኣጥፊእካያ
    ወይ ድማ ሸጥካያ
    ንበለዶ ብመሃያ?

    በዓል ሰማያዊ
    ኣብ ውሽጥኻ ዘይጠፈአ ሓዊ
    ኣብ ክንዲ ጽጉም ተእዊ
    ትስእን ድቃስ ለይቲ
    ተማጓቲ
    ቢትወደድ ‘ዶ ኢልካኒ ሓቀይ ወዲ ዓዲ ሞንጎቲ?
    ኖ ዎንደር

    ሰብ ብጫ ማልያ ትጥምት ንጎንደር
    ኩነታት ዩ ንታይ ይገበር

    ሶሪ: ሓንቲ ነገር ረሲዐ
    ወይ ዘገርም ወይ ዘሕዝን
    ሰብ ብጫ መብዛሕቲኹም ኣይተኸንሸብኩምን

    እንታይ ረኺብዎ ‘ታ ዝዶተረ
    ደሓን ‘ዶ ኣይነበረ

    ኢሳያስ ሽዑ ሻርኔራኡ ከፊቱ
    ንታሕቲ ጠሚቱ
    ኪር-ኪር ኢሉ ሰሓቕ ሞይቱ

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    Selamat Awate!
    tl;dr

    ሓደ ምሁር ይረኽበልኩም ሎሚ
    ኣብ ጣባ’ዩ ኣበይ ‘ንተልኩምኒ
    ስለ ዘይትፈልጡኒ

    ከም ቀደሙ ኣዝነበለይ ሕቶ ኣብ ድሕሪ ሕቶ
    እሞ ‘ታ ንኡሽተይ ሓንጎለይ ናበይ ‘ላቶ

    ክንደይ ኣዕጽመቲ ኣለካ?
    ይብለኒ
    ኣነ ደኣ ክንደይ ክብለካ
    ብዙሕ
    ክንደይ ጅማውቲ ኣለካ?
    ኣታ ወዲ ደሓን ዲኻ?
    ይብሎ
    ክንደይ ንውሮንስ ኣለውኻ
    ኣታ ወዲ ምስጥዕኛኻ
    ኣይመስለንን ዘለኻ

    ክንደይ ሴላት ትውንን?
    ዝዓርከይ ምስ መን
    ከምትዛረብ ዘለኻ ትፈልጥ ኣይመስልንን
    ይብሎ ‘ንደገና
    ጉድ እምበር ረኺብና

    ስምዓኒ ዶተረ
    ኣነ ደኣ መዓስ ከምኡ ተማሂረ
    ኪሎ ሽሮ ‘ዶ ይበዝሕ ኪሎ በርበረ?
    ቆሎ ፈሳሲ ድዩ ጥረ?
    ፈላሚ ሰውራ ዓዋተ ድዩ ዋላስ ከቢረ?

    መሰልቲ ‘ንተትሓተኒ
    ምሓሸኒ

    ዝትብሎ ዘለኻ ናይ ፈላስፋ
    ኣነ ዝሓስቦ ዝነበርኩ ነዛ ማትሪክ ከመይ ‘ለ ይሓልፋ
    ኣብኣ ‘ኳ’ያ ዕድል ናይ ትምህርተይ ተሪፋ
    ተኾሊፋ
    ከምኡ ምስኮነት ‘ኳ ክንደይ ሰብ’ያ ተሰሊፋ
    ሌካ -ሌካ ‘ኳ ዘይትገዛእ ብታዕሪፋ

    ከመይ ‘ለ ደኣየ ‘ሞ ነዝ ሕቶታትካ ክምልሶ
    ናተይ “መሞሪ” ኣይኮነን ከም ናይ ወዲ ተመልሶ

    ዳሕራይ ሕሰብ ኣቢለ
    በል ክሓተካ ዶተረ
    ሕቶ ናይ ዝተማህረ
    በልኩዎ

    ሹር በለኒ
    ኣየምስልንን ‘ኳ ዝነዓቐኒ
    ግን ኣይተዳህለን
    ዘይበረሐ ሰብ ክንደይ ጨጒሪ ኣለዎ?
    በልክዎ
    ገሪምዎ

    እዚ ኣይኮነን በለኒ ቅኑዕ ሕቶ
    መስለኒ ሓርቢታቶ

    ንሱ ዝሓተተኒ ዘይረአ
    ዝተሓብአ

    ኣነ ዝሓተትኩ ኩሉ ዝሪኦ
    ግን ክምልሰለይ ኣይከኣለን ንሱ ስለዘይ ዘረኦ

    ቅንኢ ጀሚራ

    ምሁር ኢለሞ ብላሽ
    ኣብ ኤርትራ ኣየድልያን
    ንስጎጎ መረብ ምላሽ
    ጨጓር ዳንጋ ከለና
    ምሁር: ‘ንታይ ክዓብሰልና
    ይጥፋኣልና
    ናብ ዓዲ ጓና

    ካብ ቤት ጽሕፈት ፕረሲደንት ኢሳያስ ኣፈወርቂ
    ሓምለ ሓደ ክልተ ሽሕን ዓሰርተ ትችዓተን

  • ዝህሰታ አታ ዝደመቕት ቶኽሲ
    ኣብታ ቀንዲ ርአሲ
    ዓንቀጽ
    አስክ ቅሩብ
    ቀርጽ
    ናይ ሳሕል ሓረካ
    ኣዋፊርካ
    ሓቀኛ ታሪኸይ ክነግርካ
    ዝተወለድኩላ ኢያ ባርካ
    የዒንተይ ዝነቐሓላ
    አወ ዝደልደላላ
    ሰፊሕ መሬት ባርካ
    ዝጎይላላ
    ሕልፍ ሕለፍ ኢልካ
    ዓቐበት ጎበታት
    ዝደየባላ
    ዳንጋታተይ ኣንገደተይ
    ቱጉሽተተይ ኣንደ ምነሽ
    ስመይ ነሽ
    ምን ነካሽ ማን መራሺ
    ነው ይ ሀ የኔ ውርሻ
    በርሃ
    ወድዚ ማን ኣመጣሽ
    ኣወ ጣሽ
    ምንድር ነው ምትጠጪ
    ጠጅ ነው ላካ ኣንሺ

    እይትኹን ኣድጚ ዓሻ
    ኣይጸሮን ዩ ክብድኻ
    ከብድኻ
    ኣንድ ዱባ
    አንዳ ‘ፋጸኻ ጡሩምባ

    ካብ ተሰነይ ነ’ቕርደት
    ባረንቱ ብፍጥነት
    ደየበት ናህሩ ወሰኸት
    ሓጂ ሓሰን ኣውቶቡስ ያ ‘ኣኽ
    አቲ ስርሒት ስርሒት ፊት
    ፊፊት ፊት ምይ ፊት ምይ ፊት
    ኣይኮንኩን ዝብለካ ዘለኹ አግረይ
    ፊት ፊት ምይ ፊት ዑትሮ ጹሩይ ማይ
    ብራሾ ሓንቲ ጋንታ ፊት ምይ ፊት
    መን ኢኻ ሞ ዝበልካኒ ተስፊት
    ከመይ ኢሉ ሞ ክርዳኣካ
    ዘይነቐልካ ዄንካ ካብ ባርካ
    አግረይ መሲሉካ ማይ ፊት
    ማይ ፉት ኣንታ ኣይኮንካን ዲኻ ተስፊት
    ኣይትሰንብድ ኣይትምበድብድ
    ስርሒት ሰምሃር ስርሒት ሰንሒት
    ስርሒት ደንከል ብማይ ፊት ፊት ፊት
    ኑቕለይ ሉኡኸይ
    ካብ ባርካ በሳሕል ነብልባል

    መቸም ኢዩ ሎም ሓደ መስከረም
    ኣይትጽመም ኣይትገረም

    ሱር ኣለዎ ከግትር ሰራወሩ
    ክጭብት ዓቲሩ
    ክሕዛ ኣትሪሩ
    ባሕቲ መስከረም እብሽሩ
    ዋንጫኹም ሓፍ ኣብሉ።

    ዋንጫ ስዋ…..

    ጃሽዋ!

    ጻጸ

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ህዝቢ ኤርትራ መዓስ’ዩ ዝልብም
    ዝኹሉ ሸንኮለል መዓስ’ዩ ዘኽትም

    ሚስጥራት ህግደፍ ምስተቐልዐ
    ናይ ይኣክል ሓይሊ ምስ በርተዐ

    ጓል መገዲ ክፈጥሩ
    ናይ ግድን ‘ዩ ኔሩ

    ‘ዞም ተረገም ሓዲሽ ስልቲ መሃዙ
    ኣግኣዝያን ኣግኣዝያን ክብሉ ጀመሩ
    ድሕሪ ክንደይ ዓመታት ሕጂ ሓደስቲ ክመስሉ
    ሕቡኣት ልኡኻት ኣብ ሚድያ ኣዕገረገሩ

    ጠመተና ኮነ ናብ ኣግኣዝያን
    መታን ክንስሕት መኣዝን
    ክንብል ብትንትን
    ‘ዩ ትውጥን

    ይኣክል ክዝሕል
    ክንኣቱ ኣብ ሓድሽ ሾንኮለል
    ትንፋስ ክረክብ እቲ ርጉም ገበል

    ኣግኣዝያን ደኣ ሕጂ መዓስ ኮይኑ
    ዝተካል ተስፋጽዮን ንበይኑ
    ብናይ ህግደፍ ባጀት ተሸንሺኑ
    ወድዩዋ ናይ ህግደፍ ሳእኑ
    ሃገር ከዕኑ
    ግን ኣይኮነሉን ወጺኡ ‘ኳ ደኣ ዕርቃኑ

    ሰብ ፈንፊኑዎ
    ብህግደፍ ዝተወጠነ ፕላን ፈሺሉዎ
    ዋጋ ኣይተሃብዎ
    እንተኾነ “ይርዳእካ” በልዎ
    ጠመተኹም ናብ ቲ ገበል ጥወይዎ
    ትንፋስ ከይረክብ ከይርህዎ
    ናይ ይኣክል ቡኛ ኣጉስጥዎ

  • said

    Greetings,
    King Leopold’s want to bring Christianity to Africa. The holocaust in Africa. Leaving aside brute king Menelik and Yohannes

    Europe’s imperial crusaders so-called Scramble for entire Africa in the 1880s is well . King Leopold’s brutal reign, and massive lucrative land grab in the Congo that led to the murder of 10 million Congolese Africans . the bloody King Leopold cleared massive profit worth many billion in today’s dollars, mostly from natural resources like rubber, during more than two decade for 24 years . King Leopold’s owned the entire Congo and directly oversaw the brutalization of the Congolese natives—from remote control, without stepping foot in Congo. Ten of millions of Congolese were dying as a direct result of his forced labor system, the bloody Leopold directed his massive colony Congo (which the largest country in Africa) from his far way palace in Brussels .when one reads book by, Adam Hochschild, author of King Leopold’s Ghost, the blood thirsty King Leopold knew one out of three Europeans foot solders , during his lifetime died from all kind tropical diseases for which there was no cure. Poor Congolese that endured massive oppression from 1885 to 1908, and then the Belgian government took official control of the Congo as new colony officially . the mass murder King Leopold, meanwhile, told European and American powers that he was only in Africa to bring Christianity to what Stanley dubbed the “Dark Continent. The bloody King Leopold to add insult to injury he named his new discovered colony .the Congo Free State, although it was anything resample or close to that ,and he brought deaths in tens of million in order to bring Christianity to Africa. What brought their cruelty—massive keeling an presented easly and casually burning down villages, shooting Poor Congolese for joy of killing and sport, torturing them, amputating limbs, forcing them to work until they keeled over or were lashed to death was beyond human comprehension and inhumanly sadistic.

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Said,

      As far as you tried to call them crusaders, the Christian followers will call you jihadist. Better you watch out your languages. Do not pull them to make it a religious fight. Not good.

      • said

        Greeting
        Amanuel it is wrong for you to pick and spin and characterise my word the word crusade can be used in many terms , I never intended in maluses .in personal way ,in your mind Being Muslim should use not the Crusade, as not to be accused by fellow Eritreans. Then let schooler say it .

        Book by Richard Jordan the Tile of the
        A Militant Crusade In Africa: The Great Commission And Segregation
        Richard Jordan
        https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/church-history/article/militant-crusade-in-africa-the-great-commission-and-segregation/AA450C64706EFB1608386DF97F3B37F3
        But let me give you an example Word for ward near end of article quotation (How did the Crusades influence European colonization projects?)
        https://www.khanacademy.org/humanities/us-history/precontact-and-early-colonial-era/old-and-new-worlds-collide/a/motivations-for-conquest-of-the-new-world

        Edmund Morel, a young British shipping agent who went on to lead the international crusade against Leopold. Another hero of this tale, the Irish patriot Roger Casement, ended his life on a London gallows. Two courageous black Americans, George Washington Williams and William Sheppard, risked much to bring evidence of the Congo atrocities to the outside world. Sailing into the middle of the story was a young Congo River steamboat officer named Joseph Conrad. And looming above them all, the duplicitous billionaire King Leopold II. With great power and compassion, King Leopold’s Ghost will brand the tragedy of the Congo—too long
        https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/king-leopolds-ghost-adam-hochschild/1100487017#/
        The brief letter discovered by Renowned Nigerian scholar and historian Professor Chinweizu Ibekwe. Letter from King Leopold II of Belgium to Colonial Missionaries, 1883
        The letter which follows is Courtesy of Dr. Vera Nobles and Dr. Chiedozie Okoro.

        https://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/the-historical-origin-of-christianity-in-africa-by-professor-chinweizu-ibekwe/

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Said,

          If Christianity is expanded as “crusades” as depicted in your comment, likewise Islam is expanded as “jihadism” all over the world. What is the crux of your idea in bringing religious conflicts to our political discussion, unless you are interested to attack Christianity? Be modest and avoid sensitive religious terms in your discussion. Understand your society. It won’t help us.

          • said

            Greeting
            AM
            Being an Eritrea Amanuel I expect you to have great understanding . since you have interacted and friended with many Muslim Eritrean throughout your life . It seems you are not well read about the history of Islam and your generalization about Islam spread by means by Holy war is intentionally malicious and not well informed / You are absolutely wrong that Islam spread around the world by holy war is false . I can assure there was no intention to bringing religious conflicts to our political discussion, I was not interested to attack Christianity ?and there is no reason to do so , it is in your mind You are misquoting me out of context I give you number of reference . King Leopold told European and American powers that he was only in Africa to bring Christianity to what Stanley dubbed the “Dark Continent. He is just one many European invaders and colonizers in Africa. Two third of Muslim people if not more in live in Asia As you know well .
            by far the largest Islamic population in the world – the Indonesian community of some 230 million Muslims -find out yourself how isalm come to Indonesia and Malesia . 13th century that the religion began to grow. It spread, not on the hooves of conflict and conquest, but on the winds of Trade and Commerce.and the narrative that Islam describes in this most pluralistic, tolerant, courteous, and civil of democratic nations. For, as well as having the largest Islamic population in the world, Indonesia is the world’s third largest democracy.Find out how world’s largest Islamic minority – in India – and you have an Islamic population which is larger than that of the whole of the Middle East and North Africa.

            The very word Islam, which means “surrender,” is related to the Arabic salam, or peace. Islam is not addicted to war, and word jihad is not one of its “pillars,” or essential practices. The primary meaning of the word is not “holy war” but “struggle.” It refers to the difficult effort that is needed to put God’s will into practice at every level–personal and social as well as political.
            Islam did not impose itself by the sword. In a statement in which the Arabic is extremely emphatic, the Koran insists, “There must be no coercion in matters of faith!” (2: 256). Constantly Muslims are enjoined to respect Jews and Christians, the “People of the Book,” who worship the same God (29: 46). In words quoted by Muhammad in one of his last public sermons, God tells all human beings, “O people! We have formed you into nations and tribes so that you may know one another” (49: 13)–not to conquer, convert, subjugate, revile or slaughter but to reach out toward others with intelligence and understanding.
            After the advent of Islam in the Arabian Peninsula in the 7th century, Islam started its expansion towards eastern regions through trade encouraged by the development of the maritime Silk Roads. Muslims were known to have a commercial talent notably encouraged by Islam, as well as excellent sailing skills. Thus, they could monopolize the East-West trade of the maritime Silk Roads, According UNESCO
            https://en.unesco.org/silkroad/content/did-you-know-spread-islam-southeast-asia-through-trade-routes
            Islam came to the Southeast Asia, first by the way of Muslim traders along the main trade-route between Asia and the Far East, then was further spread by Sufi orders and finally consolidated by the expansion of the territories of converted rulers and their communities. According Wikipedia .The people of the Islamic world created numerous sophisticated centers of culture and science with far-reaching mercantile networks, travelers, scientists, hunters, mathematicians, physicians, and philosophers, all contributing to the Golden Age of Islam. Islamic expansion in South and East Asia fostered cosmopolitan and eclectic Muslim cultures in the Indian subcontinent, Malaysia, Indonesia and China.
            That people within the given areas gradually began to accept Islam more and more?
            The Islamic Caliphate did not feature the domination of one race, tribe, or capital city over others, neither was citizenship conditional on long military service (like the Roman Empire).
            Islam spread largely peacefully and gradually wherever there were trade connections with the wider Muslim world of the southern Mediterranean, the Persian Gulf and the Arabian Sea.
            Let me give quotation from natural institution UNESCO .The spread of Islam in Africa was much more than the passing on and adoption of religious ideas. As the UNESCO General History of Africas ummarises, unlike many other faiths:
            Islam is not only a religion: it is a comprehensive way of life, catering for all the fields of human existence. Islam provides guidance for all aspects of life – individual and social, material and moral, economic and political, legal and cultural, national and international. (Vol III, 20)
            It is thus perhaps more comprehensible, given the above, why so many African rulers and elites were ready to adopt a foreign religion when it also brought with it definite advantages of governance and wealth.
            The two spheres of Islam and trade are closely intertwined, as here explained in the UNESCO General History of Africa:
            The association of Islam and trade in sub-Saharan Africa is a well-known fact. The commercially most active peoples, the Dyula, Hausa and Dyakhanke, were among the first to be converted when their respective countries came into contact with Muslims. The explanation of this phenomenon is to be found in social and economic factors. Islam is a religion born in the commercial society of Mecca and preached by a Prophet who himself had for a long time been a merchant, provides a set of ethical and practical prescripts closely related to business activities. This moral code helped to sanction and control commercial relationships and offered a unifying ideology among the members of different ethnic groups, thus providing for security and credit, two of the chief requirements of long-distance trade. (Vol. III, 39)
            Islam and its tolerance of traditional African religions, its simplicity of doctrine and mode of worship helped propagators to make converts in Africa. These factors also made Islam easily adaptable to the African communities with which it came in contact. Again, the Islamisation of Africa was paralleled by the Africanisation of Islam.
            Let refer to few quotation In the Koran, therefore, the only permissible war is one of self-defence. Muslims may not begin hostilities (2: 190). Warfare is always evil, but sometimes you have to fight in order to avoid the kind of persecution that Mecca inflicted on the Muslims (2: 191; 2: 217) or to preserve decent values (4: 75; 22: 40). The Koran quotes the Torah, the Jewish scriptures, which permits people to retaliate eye for eye, tooth for tooth, but like the Gospels, the Koran suggests that it is meritorious to forgo revenge in a spirit of charity (5: 45). Hostilities must be brought to an end as quickly as possible and must cease the minute the enemy sues for peace (2: 192-3).

            May be the this short Video below will clarify your misunderstanding about Islam .
            Video From extreme nationalism and far-right politics to compassion and empathy, watch the incredible transformation story of Joram van Klaveren, a former Dutch parliamentarian.”
            Why I Left the Far-Right: Joram van Klaveren’s Journey to Islam (Video)

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=Hjz_YIvlCw8
            Dr Juan in 1960 he was living in Eritrea with his family and his first interaction with Muslim was in Eritrea and get to know basic tenant of Islam and he get to know some Muslim and he very was impressed and fascinated and caught his courtesy.
            .In this short video, Dr. Juan Cole, the Richard P. Mitchell Collegiate Professor of History at the University of Michigan, talks about what the Qur’an, the scripture revered by the world’s 1.7 billion Muslims, says about peace and why this has never been more important
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_kukrJ7goE

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Said,

            You said: “The very word Islam, which means “surrender,” is related to the Arabic salam, or peace.”

            How is it possible for “Surrender” to be related to “Peace”? “Surrender” is a threatening word.

            If Islam is full of many goodies as you claim, why is it the case that many Muslim majority countries are suffering from lack of literacy, democracy, stability, peace and enormously lagging behind in technological inventions?

          • said

            Greeting Simon Kaleab
            I have debated in past you are well known person to seamer Islam , Just to remind you Muslim have no issue with Christianity and they love Jesus(SAWSA),just to give an idea, you are openly very hostile to Islam .I have debated you about faith many times ,you relentless, hard head , you are not one of kind of rationalist and not progressive and not intellectual person ,you show your poisonous side . there is no logical and rational explanations that I can make you real understand what mean to believe in Islam ,in God and have faith and it is about individual salvation .please do not ask me about what is going in some Muslim counters yes some are very poor and some are rich and between ,like Christian countries some are poor and some very rich and advanced ,nothing to do with any religion per say/ Christian are not responsible for American war in Vietnam or ,any were else for that matter .I will quote number of western great scholars and say about Islam contribution to humanity and achievement.
            You are an educate with no reason or rational other you are simply put and one can not any sense to you , in Godless country some are advanced in technology in your man made Maoism and Stalinism and only this two men the pagan godless Communist have killed combined over 100 million good and ordinary Christian and poor hard working chines people for no wrong of their doing . No ‘ism’, ideology or religion matches Islam in its world-affirmative stance. In regard material world and progress .As expected You back to your dark and side and foolishly, you do not know how to argue and make your point except by insulating and show your deep hatred and I referred to you with quotation and from different point of view and just my view .If ever and you have giving a chance and When read the history of Muslim contribution to world civilization, it seems it was very recent that Muslims were on top of the world. They were pioneers and leaders in all areas of human endeavor. They invented new branches of Science and Mathematics. They not only laid the foundation of modern knowledge, but propelled it to new heights. In particular, their contribution to the world of Medicine is thought is truly legendary.
            They were leadership in science, mathematics and medicine? You can refute if wish .
            You are lost soul and you have nothing but pathetically person and you nothing good to say and truly to show and not even an iota of good idea or sound mind let alone good heart but the realty is let give long list of historian and history is to describe the extraordinary achievements of recent past Muslims. the history of Islam and science is long . And this is what i will also do in this brief description of the achievements of some of the Muslim but stated by non-Muslim scholars, to avoid any impression of a Muslim Bias.
            The quotations below may seem extensive but to show you and to give 101 lesson the depth and breadth of the new knowledge that past Muslims created and developed, and which, according to Western historians of science, formed the backbone on which the Western renaissance in science began. the lesson for you is past intellectual giants in making science history, but the West has not. It continues to build its scientific superstructure for modern science on the foundations laid by Muslim ancestors. unlike you nothing to say except negative .
            Let me give number of quotation as reported from John William Draper and Robert Briffault , Roger Bacon , whom flourished within a short period, 750 to 1100 A.D.”European Renaissance Drawn From Muslim Civilization
            In Intellectual Development of Europe, John William Draper writes:
            “I have to deplore the systematic manner in which the literature of Europe has continued to put out of sight our obligations to the Muhammadans [British term for Muslims]. Surely they cannot be much longer hidden. Injustice founded on religious rancor and national conceit cannot be perpetuated forever. The Arab has left his intellectual impress on Europe. He has indelibly written it on the heavens as any one may see who reads the names of the stars on a common celestial globe.”
            Robert Briffault states in his magnum opus, Making of Humanity:
            “It was under the influence of the Arabs and Moorish revival of culture and not in the 15th century, that a real renaissance took place. Spain, not Italy, was the cradle of the rebirth of Europe. After steadily sinking lower and lower into barbarism, it had reached the darkest depths of ignorance and degradation when cities of the Saracenic world, Baghdad, Cairo, Cordova, and Toledo, were growing centers of civilization and intellectual activity. It was there that a new life arose which was to grow into a new phase of human evolution. The stirring of new life began when the influence of Muslim culture began to make itself felt.”
            “It was under their successors at Oxford School (that is, successors to the Muslims of Spain) that Roger Bacon learned Arabic and Arabic Sciences. Neither Roger Bacon, nor his later namesake, has any title to be credited with having introduced the experimental method. Roger Bacon was no more than one of the apostles of Muslim Science and Method to Christian Europe; and he never wearied of declaring that knowledge of Arabic and Arabic Sciences was for his contemporaries the only way to true knowledge. Discussion as to who was the originator of the experimental method… is part of the colossal misinterpretation of the origins of European civilization. The experimental method of Arabs was by Bacon’s time widespread and eagerly cultivated throughout Europe.”
            “Science is the most momentous contribution of Arab civilization to the modern world; but its fruits were slow in ripening. Not until long after Moorish culture had sunk back into darkness, did the giant, which it had given birth to, rise in his might. It was not science only, which brought Europe back to life. Other and manifold influences from the civilization of Islam communicated its first glow to European life.”

            “For although there is not a single aspect of European growth in which the decisive influence of Islamic Culture is not traceable, nowhere is it so clear and momentous as in the genesis of that power which constitutes the permanent distinctive force of the modern world, and the supreme source of its victory, natural science and the scientific spirit.”
            “The debt of our science to that of the Arabs does not consist in startling discoveries or revolutionary theories; science owes a great deal more to Arab culture, it owes its existence. The Astronomy and Mathematics of the Greeks were a foreign importation never thoroughly acclimatized in Greek culture. The Greeks systematized, generalized and theorized, but the patient ways of investigation, the accumulation of positive knowledge, the minute method of science, detailed and prolonged observation and experimental inquiry were altogether alien to the Greek temperament. Only in Hellenistic Alexandria was any approach to scientific work conducted in the ancient classical world. What we call science arose in Europe as a result of a new spirit of inquiry, of new methods of experiment, observation, measurement, of the development of mathematics, in a form unknown to the Greeks. That spirit and those methods were introduced into the European world by the Arabs.”

            “It is highly probable that, but for the Arabs, modern European civilization would never have arisen at all; it is absolutely certain that but for them, it would not have assumed that character which has enabled it to transcend all previous phases of evolution. “Muslim Scholars of Medicine and Mathematics
            In Legacy of Islam, Arnold and Guillaume shed light on Islamic science and medicine:
            “Looking back, we may say that Islamic medicine and science reflected the light of the Hellenic sun, when its day had fled; they shone like a moon, illuminating the darkest night of the European Middle Ages; some bright stars lent their own light, and moon and stars alike faded at the dawn of a new day – the Renaissance. Since they had their share in the direction and introduction of that great movement, it may reasonably be claimed that they are with us yet.”
            Again, George Sarton in the Introduction to the History of Science says:
            “During the reign of Caliph Al-Mamun (813-33 A.D.), the new learning reached its climax. The monarch created in Baghdad a regular school for translation. It was equipped with a library, one of the translators there was Hunayn Ibn Ishaq (809-77) a particularly gifted philosopher and physician of wide erudition, the dominating figure of this century of translators. We know from his own recently published Memoir that he translated practically the whole immense corpus of Galenic writings.”
            “Besides the translation of Greek works and their extracts, the translators made manuals of which one form, that of the ‘pandects,’ is typical of the period of Arabic learning. These are recapitulations of the whole medicine, discussing the affections of the body, systematically beginning at the head and working down to the feet.”
            “The Muslim ideal was, it goes without saying, not visual beauty but God in His plentitude; that is God with all his manifestations, the stars and the heavens, the earth and all nature. The Muslim ideal is thus infinite. But in dealing with the infinite as conceived by the Muslims, we cannot limit ourselves to the space alone, but must equally consider time.”
            “The first mathematical step from the Greek conception of a static universe to the Islamic one of a dynamic universe was made by Al-Khwarizmi (780-850), the founder of modern Algebra. He enhanced the purely arithmetical character of numbers as finite magnitudes by demonstrating their possibilities as elements of infinite manipulations and investigations of properties and relations.”
            “In Greek mathematics, the numbers could expand only by the laborious process of addition and multiplication. Khwarizmi’s algebraic symbols for numbers contain within themselves the potentialities of the infinite. So we might say that the advance from arithmetic to algebra implies a step from being to ‘becoming’ from the Greek universe to the living universe of Islam. The importance of Khwarizmi’s algebra was recognized, in the twelfth century, by the West, – when Girard of Cremona translated his theses into Latin. Until the sixteenth century this version was used in European universities as the principal mathematical textbook. But Khwarizmi’s influence reached far beyond the universities. We find it reflected in the mathematical works of Leonardo Fibinacci of Pissa, Master Jacob of Florence, and even of Leonardo da Vinci.”
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            “Through their medical investigations they not merely widened the horizons of medicine, but enlarged humanistic concepts generally. And once again they brought this about because of their overriding spiritual convictions. Thus it can hardly have been accidental that those researches should have led them beyond the reach of Greek masters. If it is regarded as symbolic that the most spectacular achievement of the mid-twentieth century is atomic fission and the nuclear bomb, likewise it would not seem fortuitous that the early Muslim’s medical endeavor should have led to a discovery that was quite as revolutionary though possibly more beneficent.”
            “A philosophy of self-centerdness, under whatever disguise, would be both incomprehensible and reprehensible to the Muslim mind. That mind was incapable of viewing man, whether in health or sickness as isolated from God, from fellow men, and from the world around him. It was probably inevitable that the Muslims should have discovered that disease need not be born within the patient himself but may reach from outside, in other words, that they should have been the first to establish clearly the existence of contagion.”
            “One of the most famous exponents of Muslim universalism and an eminent figure in Islamic learning was Ibn Sina, known in the West as Avicenna (981-1037). For a thousand years he has retained his original renown as one of the greatest thinkers and medical scholars in history. His most important medical works are the Qanun (Canon) and a treatise on Cardiac drugs. The ‘Qanun fi-l-Tibb’ is an immense encyclopedia of medicine. It contains some of the most illuminating thoughts pertaining to distinction of mediastinitis from pleurisy; contagious nature of phthisis; distribution of diseases by water and soil; careful description of skin troubles; of sexual diseases and perversions; of nervous ailments.”
            “We have reason to believe that when, during the Crusades, Europe at last began to establish hospitals, they were inspired by the Arabs of the Near East… the first hospital in Paris, Les Quinze-vingt, was founded by Louis IX after his return from the Crusade 1254-1260.”
            “We find in his (Jabir, Geber) writings remarkably sound views on methods of chemical research, a theory on the geologic formation of metals (the six metals differ essentially because of different proportions of sulphur and mercury in them); preparation of various substances (e.g., basic lead carbonatic, arsenic and antimony from their sulphides).”
            “Ibn Haytham’s writings reveal his fine development of the experimental faculty. His tables of corresponding angles of incidence and refraction of light passing from one medium to another show how closely he had approached discovering the law of constancy of ratio of sines, later attributed to Snell. He accounted correctly for twilight as due to atmospheric refraction, estimating the sun’s depression to be 19 degrees below the horizon, at the commencement of the phenomenon in the mornings or at its termination in the evenings.”
            “A great deal of geographical as well as historical and scientific knowledge is contained in the thirty volume meadows of Gold and Mines of Gems by one of the leading Muslim historians, the tenth century al Mas’udi. A more strictly geographical work is the dictionary ‘Mujam al-Buldan’ by al-Hamami (1179-1229). This is a veritable encyclopedia that, in going far beyond the confines of geography, incorporates also a great deal of scientific lore.”
            “They studied, collected and described plants that might have some utilitarian purpose, whether in agriculture or in medicine. These excellent tendencies, without equivalent in Christendom, were continued during the first half of the thirteenth century by an admirable group of four botanists. One of these Ibn al-Baitar compiled the most elaborate Arabic work on the subject (Botany), in fact the most important for the whole period extending from Dioscorides down to the sixteenth century. It was a true encyclopedia on the subject, incorporating the whole Greek and Arabic experience.”
            “‘Abd al-Malik ibn Quraib al-Asmai (739-831) was a pious Arab who wrote some valuable books on human anatomy. Al-Jawaliqi who flourished in the first half of the twelfth century and ‘Abd al-Mumin who flourished in the second half of the thirteenth century in Egypt, wrote treatises on horses. The greatest zoologist amongst the Arabs was al-Damiri (1405) of Egypt whose book on animal life, ‘Hayat al-Hayawan’ has been translated into English by A.S.G. Jayakar (London 1906, 1908).”
            “The weight of venerable authority, for example that of Ptolemy, seldom intimidated them. They were always eager to put a theory to tests, and they never tired of experimentation. Though motivated and permeated by the spirit of their religion, they would not allow dogma as interpreted by the orthodox to stand in the way of their scientific research.”
            This approach of describing past Muslim achievements is effective in making us, Muslims, feel proud. It may even motivate a few of us to excel in science – thanks to the West. But in describing the history of Islam and science, should one stop here? Does this approach provide clues about how past Muslims systematically discovered new knowledge? How they invented so much new scientific knowledge without the modern facilities that we have today? Was this the result of their natural instincts or intellectual aptitude? Were they motivated (like most of us) by wealth, career, or fame? Why did they devote their entire lives seeking knowledge of Allah’s creations even while suffering extreme hardships? Most important of all, what was the driving force behind their constant pursuit in advancing the frontiers of new knowledge? Unless we probe these questions, we will not be able to fully appreciate the achievements of past Muslims or learn from their stories.
            References:
            1. George Sarton, Introduction to the History of Science, Vol. I-IV, Carnegie Institute of Washington, Baltimore, 1927-31; Williams and Wilkins, Baltimore, 1950-53.
            2. Robert Briffault, The Making of Humanity, London, 1938.
            3. T. Arnold and A. Guillaume, The Legacy of Islam, Oxford University Press, 1931.
            4. E. Gibbon, Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, London, 1900.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Said,

            Wouldn’t it be simpler to answer my questions?

          • Mez

            Dear Said;

            there is as saying, south of the Mereb:

            “በሃይማኖት ክርክር
            አሸናፊም ተሸናፊም
            የለም።

            የሰው ልጅ ብሥለቱ
            ተከባብሮ መኖሩ ላይ ነው።”
            I learned this as as third grader from and old priest.

            thankd

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Said,

            I just don’t want to see religious philosophy in to a mix in our political discourse. Religion is a private issue. Politics is our collective endeavor on how to govern ourselves. If we separate them they way they are, we will have a healthy conversation. With that I rest my case.

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Selam Awatistas,

    YG has finished his three parts interview on the Peace agreement between Ethiopia and Eritrea, with the Asmarino staff. Part -III is the most illuminating analysis that depict about the abnormality of the agreement and all the factors that explains the difficulties in translating the agreement. YG posses an extraordinary analytical mind. I admire him despite there are many issue we don’t see eye to eye. One of his striking point and very noticeable that he has Madeira his argument is the following:

    “ It is at the nick of time then, as Shaebia has all but exhausted the internal sustenance it has been relentlessly extracting from the exhausted Eritrean body, PM Abiy has arrived on the scene to save Shaebia from itself; that is, with the promise to supplement its parasitic sustenance from outside.“

    Reading the above statement, it reminds me when our despot (Issayas) was chest beating, in Addis and Awassa – excited by the PM of Ethiopia of giving him a revived sustenance to his power. I encourage everyone agree or disagree to read his analytical argument. It worth reading.

    Regards

    • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

      ኣንታ ኤማ እንታይ ገበርጉኻ?
      ወይ መጠንቀቕታ: “እዚ ብሓንጎሉ ዘይተኣማመን ከንብቦ ኣይመክርን” ገለ-መለታት ኮታ። ምስ ኣንበክዋ ርእሰይ ሓጸልጸል ክብለኒ ጀሚሩ።

      ‘ዛ መሰታ ህግደፍ ኮረላይ ኣብ ናስ ካር ኣትየ ክወዳደር ተራእዩኒ።

      ጸሓፊ ዶ ኣንባቢ
      ነብሪ ዶ ከልቢ

      ኮዮ ዶ ኮንጎ
      ዶልሺ ዶ ጎጎ
      ነዳርጎ

      ናተይ ሓንጎል ሓንቲ
      ጭፍልቕቲ

      ናይ ‘ዞም ዝጽሕፉ ሓንጎል
      ካብ ናተይ ፍልይ ይብል
      ብዙሕ ፍልጠት የጽልል
      ንገሊኦም ድማ የጸልል
      አዕድልካ ኣልዕል!

      ኣነስ ይቐንእ
      እንታይ ክምዝኾንኩ ኣብ ልበይ ኣትያ ቅንኢ
      ዕምቆት ዘለዎም ጽሑፋት ክርኢ

      ስለምንታይ ኣነ ከምኡ ዘይኮንኩ
      ስለ ዘይተዓደልኩ?

      ኣበይ ድዩ ኔሩ ትሪጋ?
      ዘን ውሑዳት ምሩጻት ሓንጎል ክዕደላ
      ኣንታ ‘ዛ ናተይሲ
      ኣጥሊቖማ ግዲ ኔሮም ‘ዮም ኣብ ማይ በላ
      ይመስለኒ: ረሲሓ ‘ላ

      ትርስሓት ግን ሓመድ ኣይኮነን
      ጭቃ ውን ኣይመስለንን

      ገለ ነገር ‘ዩ ብቅንኢ ዝተባዕጠጠ
      እነሀልኩም ቆፎ ሓንጎለይ ዝረገጠ
      ኣየእቱ ጽቡቕ
      ኣየውጽእ ሕማቕ
      ካን ብዘይኮነ ምቕናእ

      ቅዱስ ቅንኢ ኔሩ
      ተዝኸውን
      ምተመሃርኩሉ
      ዌል ወዲ-ኣዳም አዕድሉ
      ድዮም ዝበሉ?

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Mehandsay,

        Your humility is an extra-ordinary. Humility is a rare personal value that could always displayed to people around us. That is what I observe from your writings be it poetic or prose. The great Chinese philosopher, Lao Tzu identified three precious values (1) gentleness (2) frugality (3) humility which keeps us from putting ourselves before others. He furthered by saying; Be gentle and you can be bold. Be frugal and you can be liberal. Avoid putting yourself before others (humility) and you can be anything. I sensed that you are exercising them. Otherwise, you are not less equipped than the people you admired them. Above all, and unlike us, you have broad knowledge that touches many discipline of knowledge.

        Regards

    • Senay Zer

      Dear Amanuel — I agree with nearly everything YG said on the this part III. However, I keep wondering, didn’t so many Eritreans tried to tell YG for years that the primary driver for every action IA/shaebia is self-preservation and not as, for example, YG insinuates deliberate and possibly ideology driven targeting of highlanders by PIA’s government?

      • Teodros Alem

        selam senay z
        yg didn’t say anything, he just repeated what have been said by tplf ” activist” in different forms.
        check out even here in Awate what hayat and the other tplf “activist’ has been saying about ethio- eri new relationship .

        • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

          Selamat Tedros Alem,
          I would rather see the future of Eritea with Amanuel Sahle, Saleh Johar, Semere Tesfai, Ali Salim than Gidewon or Sohpia or Elias Amare or that Fake Bruno or wedi Gerahtu.

          Eritrea needs individuals with their original thoughts than Papagalos.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Mehands,

            Agreed, Gidewon [Mr Uganda], Sophia [Mrs groupie], Elias [the ultimate fake], Gerahtu [2nd rate cadre] are a squad of papagalos.

            Who is Bruno? Is it the name of a pet?

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Selam Simon,
            Very funny! 🙂
            I guess you could say that. He call himself Eritrean Ambassador to Japan.

        • Selamat Teodros Alem,

          In more or less than a week you will see the pattern forming and come to realize… Ehhhm folks I beg your pardon but I will use a Texas Hold’em term here and say “I will raise the pot in the blind…”

          Yes I was saying you will come to realize Senay Zer is a tplf operative. Part and parcel of the whole onslaught offensive. And you will, with your unique and classical classifications, designate him to be YOU KNOW WHAT. And so… this time I felt like saving you the energy…. and I am sure this will not be what influenced you. You are much more equipped with better honed instruments you have perfected.
          And a heads up… there will be a few more that follow. It is a package. YG does his thing and about two dozen promote it for weeks yada yada yada yada…

          Rather sit on the side bemused, I figured our true feelings should be front and center to repel the impending orchestrated offensive by you know who with a very sinister agenda.

          it will come soon you know.
          yeahhhh Rahwa.

          JOSHUA!

          tSAtSE

    • Brhan

      Hello Amanuel,
      A year passed to the agreement and I hardly find new points except the writer’s systematic marginalization of other religious groups of Eritrea : ” peace for the religious persecuted’ .
      The writer deeply narrates in this part of the interview and this is to lead the reader to his agenda. There are many examples of writer’s past negative attitude to one of segment of Eritrean people and they include stereotype, character assassination and hate.

      • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

        Selam Brhan,
        How about trying to stick to this article and this article only?
        If we keep going back, we will be the very few in a room.
        Should I keep reminding to wedi Ali or many ex-HGDF’s that they were in the circle of isayas the butcher?
        Let’s concentrate on the subject rather than the person. If not, Amanuel Sahle won’t be wedi Sahle.

        • Selamat Muhandis MiEbale,

          No I disagree whole heartedly. In this case it is infact the person that matters more than whatever subject it is he maybe addressing. As if Eritreans are short of subjects they have raised. Further more, what is peculiar about clever and opportunistic people I know is their impeccable timing. They will pour narration that is very like honey with the perfect viscosity at the right time and as astute people like Brhan above notice right away is their impeded agenda that is very well financed and produced by enormous body of think tanks that shift their bodies and positions and are relentless in re approaching the Eritrean from all angles possible.

          No Sir, you may think my opinion does not matter but I will state it anyway. When it is YG it is a force equal to a black hole, only it doesn’t let absolutely anything. Absolutely NO LIGHT or sound that is worth my while enters yours truly. That is because all YG has said has been and will always be GARBAGE.

          but carry on… worry not about a few of us will be left… some of us can keep a stance even if it means all but ONE will remain. Its about truth. [By the way, I thought your character only did poems or giTmi? You maybe confusing your roles. I know, it is a hard juggle.

          Like me having a hard time to drive which of my
          Jagua r s?

          JOSHUA!

          tSAtSE

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Selamat tSAtSE!

            I am perfectly ok if you disagree with my comment (s). You will probably disagree with many more of my future comments/Poems.

            About the giTmi thing, ከይተሳፍሕ ዝበልካ ኮይኑ ተሰሚዑኒ። ወይ ድማ በዘራርባ ሳሕል: ኣይምልከተካን ‘ዩ ተድምጽ ዘላ ትጥዕም 🙂

          • ሰላማት መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ፡

            ሳሕል ዓባይ አግረይ ረጊጻታ ኣይትፈልጥን። ታሪኻ ን ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ጥራይ ዘይኮነስ ብጣዕሚ ዕብን ሰፊሕን ን ሙሉአ ህዝቢ ዓልም ኢያ። ዑምቀት ትሕዝቶኣን ቂያ ስርሒታት ደቂ ሃገራ መስተንክርን ዘደንጽውን ኩቱር ሓይሉ ዝምስከረሉ ክከሓድ ዘይካኣል ሓቅነአቱ ጭብትነት ኢዚ ዝስዕብ ኢዩ። ኤርትራዊ ረዚን ፍትሓዊ ተወዳዳሪ ዘይብሉ ናይ ሃገሩ ሓበናውይ ታሪኸን ዛንታትን ቂያ ውልቀ ኣሽሓት ጀጋኑ ኣብ ዝባኑ ተሓንጊጡ አዛ ኤርትራ ትበሃል ሃገር ደልድልትን ጽንዕትን ሃገር ዝርከብ ዘሎ ኣብዛ ወሳኒት ሰዓት ኢዚኣ ደቒቕ። ብሽም ሳሕል ምሒሉን ጸሎት ዝገብርን መሓሩኒ ዝብል ዘሎ አቲ ዝዕምጻ ዝሃስያ፡ ስጋብ ሕጂ ምሕረት ዝረክብ ዘሎ። መስተንክር ስርሒታት ቂያ ውልቀ ማህዝቶታትኡ ነቕ ዘይብል ዕርዲ ጂግና ሃናጺ ጂግና ፍስሃየ የውሃኒስ – ጃሽዋቕ – ኩርዓት ኤርትራዊ ሳሕል ኤርትራ!
            ዘይ ትዕድልተይ ኮይናትኒ፥ ቁዱስ ቀይሕ መሬት ሳሕል ሳንደለይ ዋላ ሸበጠይ ጸቒጠን የአጋረይ ባይታኣ ሳሕል ኣይ ነጠባን። ድርግጽ ነቒለ ከምቶም ዝነቐሉ፡ ናይ ሰዓታት ዝነቐለት ቦከሲ ዳትሰን ቶዮታ ኢያ ዘስሎኾትኒ ዛንታ ዝጠለመት ናይ ደቓይቕ ቆጸራ ምቁጹጻራ። ኣሎ ውን ዘነኣአሳ ፍጹም ዘይፈልጣ ዓሻ ካባይ ዝገደደ ዝመስሎ ትድፈር ሳሕል። ክትብሎ ትኽአል ንዚ ኩሉ ፈላጣይ ኢየ ኢሉ ትሕቲ መልሓሱ ዝፍከር ኣይፈልጥን ኣነ ግን ኢዚ ኢየ ዝብሎ፡ የቐኒየለይ ተገንዘብካለይ ካብቶም ሳሕል ሙዃነይ።
            አወ ሳሕል አታ ዘይቲሕለል ዘልዓልካ ተሕብን ሳሕል ቃል አንተ ናተይስ ኣጸቢቕካ ኣለሊ ንሳ ኮይኑ ወሪድዋ…

            ጃሽዋ!

            ጻጸ

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ሰላማት ጻጸ

            ንተሰነይ ዝሓሰብካዮ: መገዲ ባጽዕ ወሲድካ። ምልስ በል።
            በዘራርባ ሳሕል ክብል ከለኹ: ነዞም *ሽፋቱ መራሕቲ ህግደፍ ንምግላጽ’ዩ።

            *ሽፍታ ከማን ክቡር ‘ዩ ምስ ‘ዞም መጸይቲ ደም ከተወዳድሮ ከለኻ።

        • Brhan

          Hello Muhandis Al Tatawur,
          Which article? You mean the article – the religious persecuted : The writer should try to stick to this article but to go deeper and deeper about the agony of segment of Eritrean while marginalizing the others?
          I thought after long absence , the writer will come by showing inclusiveness and honest because at least if he doesn’t know the agony of those he intentionally marginalized , he could say sorry I do not have the data about Muslims including under 14 years old children languishing in prisons because the attended the burial of Haji Musa for this I could not include it in my interview and the same goes with regard to the agony of Catholics.

          መሃንድስ ምዕባለ
          አብቲ ጉዳይ አድህቡ በለ

          ከመይ? ዘይከኣለ!
          ዋይ ጂ እናሃልካ ቀጸለ

          ንገለ እናቃለለ
          አይተቆጠበን ካብ ጽያፍ አመለ

          ክንዲ ንኹሉ ዝሗቅፍ
          ንገለ ይገድፍ

          ረሲዑ ከይንብል
          ምስ ንባብ ይውዕል

          ኮነ ኢልካ ጸይቂ
          ዓሚቱ ንሓቂ
          እናረኣየ ተሞክሮ
          ዘይመሃር እንታይ ትገብሮ

          ዓገብ ትብሎ እምበር
          ክሕሾ ልቢ ክገብር
          مع السلامة
          يا مهندس التطور

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ሰላም ብርሃን

            መጀመርታ ይበል ግጥሚ!
            ይኣቱ ኣብ ዓጽሚ

            ‘ታ ናይ ሃይማኖት ዝብልካያ
            ኣየስተውዓልኩላን ዲየ ዘሊለያ
            ዶ ዋላስ ብሕርያ
            ኣይፋል
            ካብዘይ ምኽኣል

            ግን
            ‘ታ ናይ ጰንጠ ጥራይ ኣስተውዒለ
            ከረደኦም ደልዩ ይኸውን ንበዓል ኣብዪ-ደሳለ
            ሃይማኖቶም ስለ ዝኾነ
            ኢለ

            ሕጂ ግን ሪአያ
            ከምዝመስለኒ ሸፈፍ ኢለ ሓሊፈያ
            ኔረ
            እወ ንኩሉ ሃይማኖታት ክጥቀስ ‘ዩ ዝነበረ
            ኣነ ግን ናብቲ ዘይንጹር-ሰላም ዝብል ዛዕባ ኣተኲረ
            ግን ከኣ ታዓቕመይ’የ ጌረ

            ኢለ ‘ኳየ ‘ታሓንጎለይ
            ተጻዊታትለይ
            ኮይኑኒ ርእሲ-ዓቕመይ
            ነገር ናተይ

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Brhan,

        Two things: First if there is no contrarian views there is no need for a debate. The purpose we are here in this forum is nothing than to debate on different views. Second, you might agree or disagree, but YG gave us a unique critical analysis on the subject, so far I haven’t seen like his argument of that depth. Third, I have argued against him when I found his views
        were contrarian to my views that I held them as principles, on the cause of our struggle and on the issues of marginalization (be it religious or minorities rights). So contrarian views are very important in the discourse of debating different ideas to increase our scope of understanding on the subjects on hand and to increase the awareness of the general public at large. In the process, weak ideas will naturally weather away slowly, and the strong one will dictate the motion of our thoughts. Don’t worry as far as we are confident on the ideas we hold.

        Regards

  • Haile S.

    ሰላም ሰብ ዓወተ፡

    ንደገ ቁሊሕ እንዳበልና ንጠምት ገዛና ንውሽጢ
    ሓውቲ ሓዊ ኣሎና ሕብራዊ ኣካልና ተቐማጢ
    ፍልልይ ኣቐሚጡ ድልው ተመያያጢ
    እንካ ሃባ ይትረፍ ክብል ብጭብጢ
    ህርፋኑ ከማይ ከማኺ ንለውጢ
    ርእስና ኣይነድንን ንጉሒላ ወሓጢ
    ኣይንኹን ተጠራጣሪ ተለዋዋጢ
    ኣይንደናገር ብደጋዊ ጸቕጢ

    ትግራይ-ትግሪኚ ሓደ ምኽንያት ዝተላዕለሉ
    እዩ እንግሊዝ ንኽገምዓና ኣብ ዝተዳለወሉ
    ምሁር ነናቱ ሓሰብ ኣምጽአ ብፍርሂ ተዳሂሉ
    ህዝቢ ግና ዘየዋጽኦ ፈሊጡ ንክልቲኡ እምቢ’ሉ
    ን’ገንዘብ ንመሃር ካብዝሓለፈ ታሪኽ ብቐሊሉ

    ድሙቓት rainbow ሕብርና
    ምስቶም ብዙሓት ልሳንና
    ዘዋጽኣና ንኹልና ንዘቲ ሓቢርና
    ተፈላሊና ንወስዶ ስጉምቲ ሓደጋ ንኹልና
    “የቆቱን ኣወርድ ብላ፡ የብብትዋን ጣለች” ካይኮነና

  • Thomas

    Hi All,

    Eritrea is so blessed to have analysts like that YG. I have to say YG has a double mind. I read his entire interview at asmarino (titled: Deciphering the Peace Accord between Eritrea and Ethiopia” , it was EPIC. People here talk about nonsense weyane/tigrayans this and that losing their focus on their main enemy and actually think these people are the main reason were stuck.

    • Hameed Al-Arabi

      Ahlan Thomas,

      Are you sworn to dance with every passer-by. እዚ ናትካ ጉዳይ ምስዘጋንፈካ ዋጣ ምስዕሳ ይባሃል::

      Al-Arabi

      • Thomas

        Hi Hameed,

        All I am asking people here is to focus on the 1# enemy of Eritrea and the Eritrean people. Look, it is not like I know the tigrayans or other Ethiopians and I do not want to pretend like I know them here, but it puzzles me when I see people hating others more than they hate the one and only causing all the problems in the country.They talk about the Agazian and the agazian talk about the Islamists and so on. These all can be settled ones we have our constitution that protects the entire people of our beloved nation. Look how SG has gotten his website into, a fighting ground of the Eritrean oppositions. He attacked YG, know he is attacking Amanuel Sahle and you tell me. Is this really healthy and what we want to see among Eritreans?

        • Hameed Al-Arabi

          Ahlan Thomas,

          Those two guys you mentioned in your comment are fighting the existence of a nation named Eritrea. It is the role of any Eritrea to fight back without invitation. SG is in the forefront and boots out any guy who hurts the existence of Eritrea and her people. Tigrai-Tigrinia or Agazian is a dangerous notion for the region and this group. I guess it will primarily be hell to this group. Eritreans don’t want to implicate themselves in such a fatal project. These people seem they don’t know the consequence of this deadly project. America the biggest power in the world doesn’t preach in the way these guys are doing. They are really sick people. If you have a friend or a relative among them, Mr. Thomas, assist him by taking to a doctor for medication. The world speaks about globalization and international community and international citizenship. The target is the Red Sea and the tool to reach there is Tigrinia. These people are not in love with pure Eritreans who speak Tigrinia. They just consider them as Trojans to reach their target – The Red Sea. They will just utilize them as a disposable tool that will be thrown later in the sea.

          Al-Arabi

          • Thomas

            Hi Hameed,

            If you were complaining for ISIS and other fundamentalists for supremacy of Islam in Eritrea, I would not take you seriously until the majority of Eritrean Muslims start to follow you. Issayas and his click at one time was complaining or threatening the Eritrean people on this, I never bought it. You guys worry too much! It is the people who has to decide whether follow such evil projects or not. What you are not understanding is that you guys are falling on the Isayas trap. He wanted you to divert your focus on such and that is what he is getting. Eritrea is just cursed! Some people are just so naive. They seem to care more for their religion than anything else. Very sad in deed!

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Thomas,

            Pure Eritreans will lead Eritrea, and Eritrea will continue to exist as a sovereign country. No migrant is allowed to load Eritrea and hand her to his Mama, Tigrai or Ethiopia. Eritrea is not for sale, my friend. Your friends didn’t come with new things to brag about, they are just reiterating ploys consumed decades ago.

            Inform your fake Eritreans enough is enough.

            Al-Arabi

          • Thomas

            Hi Hameed,

            Go lack with that attitude

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Thomas,

            I am here to defend human values, to curb the crude extremists and the uncivilized brutes who drain their knowledge from a rotten pool. It is certain, the product of a rotten pool will be filth. It is foolishness to expect a good scent from a rotten pool.

            Al-Arabi

          • Hey Tomy,

            Did you forget about second O and the d? or were you thinking f all the way. Here is how you get around it. Bik lighters utilizes them.

            Flick your Bik. No go(OD) flick _________.

            Does it snow in Iowa?

            JOSHUA!

            tSAtSE

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan GitSAtSE,

            The guy frustrated he didn’t get መሽሎኺ::

            Al-Arabi

        • Saleh Johar

          Thomas,
          A few things:

          1) If you are here to insult me as a moderator, as an individual, and as one of your hosts, then I think I will use my veto power–I have that in case you didn’t know.

          2) Your evil intention is so obvious. How can you compare me, however you hate my guts, with a dictator who is holding millions under his cruel grip?

          3) If I was the way you are trying hard to depict me, you would be gone (and exposed) long ago. I never functioned that way, and I will never in the future. But nuisance is something else and you are on the edge of nuisance. Watch out.

          4) There is no herd-mentality here, and we cannot form it. If that was the case, you wouldn’t be here insulting me. So, if you have problems with anyone else, deal with them without bringing my name in it.

          5) People come here and express their views freely. It’s people like you who turn it into fighting, or try to make it appear like one. Of course, you are used to groupthink, and no dissent is allowed, as per the nature of the PFDJ.

          Hold your peace and stop your none-sense and distractions

          • Thomas

            Hi SJ,

            The few fools left here sooner or later will learn & get to know who you really are. I wasted enough of my time for nothing. You seem very angry; I hope you feel the pain that you are causing on others now. Good lack & go to hell!

          • Saleh Johar

            THomas,

            1) You gave up that quickly! Well, if you were on a mission, please go and declare victory–your group needs even a fake victory to celebrate.

            2)I am an open page, not DeqiHdrtna like a few others. And I guess I have been open since, probably, you were in diapers. They will learn to see me as I have been for decades but if you have a film over your eyes, only you can clean it. Don’t think everyone has the same film over their eyes.

            3) It is purpesly done, I will cause you more pain if you do not sober up. Change your attitude or learn to live with it.

            4) I am never angry, but I admire your attempt to a pre-emptive strike. “Go to hell” is a testimony on who is really angry. And for what? Because you are challenged to act as a civil person.

            5) I think it is the English who say, “May a white road await you”. If I am wrong, can someone please correct the saying 🙂 WHITE ROAD might reject you though

          • Saleh,

            You know they blessed us saying tSaEda RigetSe
            and then it snowed the last week of October of ’81. I came out of 515 W 122nd to go to a bodega wearing ShebeT.. Yeah the tSaEda RigetSe they wished for me came true only a week after I arrived on a tSaEda man very lacking Harlem USA. Then I thought again about tSaEda RigetSe blessing or command… So like my neighborhood I started to shout KILL HONKEY. Apparently HONKEY is the word for tSaEda in America.

            Any how yeah you are right. It is tSaEda ytSnaHaka. Nitricc alway call Tomas “tSaEda boy” I wonder now if there is a connect. Tomas is a Tigrai-Tigrini avid advocate and good now there is one less to buzzzzzzz around us.

            Tomas tSaEda boy! tSaEda ytSnaHka ma niggggaaa.

            Hisebbellluuuu. SHIWEYA tegilllaaa guWA.

            JOSHUA!

            tSAtSE

          • Peace!

            HiThomas,

            I guess losing a sense of respect is a side effect of backstabbing. The problem with you and your likes is that you have no principle whatsoever ምስ ዝመጸ ግምጥል (almost with all emperors against Eritrea and Eritreans) tell us why should we heed your advice? For centuries ነብሱኹም ኣይኮንኩም ንህዝቡኹም ኣይክንኩም ኣይትመርሑ ኣይትምሩሑ ካብ ታሪኽ ኣይትማሃሩ: If Issayas travels to Mekele tomorrow morning and praise TPLF, I am sure you and your likes would jump to the sky the next minute. ፍትሒ, ሓልዮት, እምነት ሓሪእኩመን ኢኹም ብዘይ እዚኤን ካኣ ብስላም ክትነብሩ ኣይትሕሰቡ::

            Peace!

          • gebremedhin yohannes

            Selam peace
            Yemene Gebremeskel is Senafe unless you want Akeleguzat to make it with Tigray like any body else
            fact dear

          • Peace!

            Hi Gebremedhin Yohanese,

            Issayas, too, is from “ጸሎት” if it makes a difference. Thank you!

            Peace!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Thomas,

            If people don’t agree on your views, they are not fools. They are only people who hold different views than yours. You are here to debate, and fight to convince your ideas. Let me tell you in my case. I am always angry to myself when I couldn’t convince my view to others and I never have never felt angry to those who hold different views than mine. Don’t make it personal fight when you are on debate. Tackle the idea in a way to convince others. Take it as rule. After all collective struggle is the toughest because it is not easy to drive the mind of all without resistance.

            Regards

  • Selam All,

    Let me say a few things on the so-called tigray-tigrini, what i have come to conclude manly from the comments of some forumers without having to go to the link. In my opinion, it is the greatest conspiracy against the sovereignty, territorial integrity and independence of eritrea. If eritrea ever signs this faustian contrast, it will be the day she will be colonized and she will lose her freedom with her own concession, and eritreans will live to lament the tens of thousands of their martyrs who were sacrificed in vain.

    It is only the naive who can trust the same people (tplf) who have kicked out eritreans for the color of their eyes, had boasted that they had broken their spine, killed other eritreans by standing with the other half, etc, when tplf tells them today that tigrayans and eritreans are one people and one blood. Rationality tells us to be extremely suspicious, to say the least, if not consider it as an insult to the intelligence of the eritrean people.

    Tigray-tigrigni, greater tigray, agaziland are the same concepts, that are meant to create a tigrayan (tplf) hegemony by swallowing all the adjacent regions of ethiopia and eritrea and by eliminating their very existence, so that the map of greater tigray will replace the map of ethiopia and eritrea in the horn of africa. The tplf concept of “whoever speaks tigrigna, the people are tigrayans and the land belongs to tigray” was one of the many pandora’s boxes tplf opened in the region, and through which tplf annexed and incorporate the amhara regions of welkayit, raya and others, simply because they spoke tigrigya on top of amharic, although tplf knew that their psychological make up was amhara. This is the only way greater tigray could be created, i.e. through conquest and deception. Now, who can guarantee that the same thing will not be applied in highland eritrea, if tplf says that the people who speak tigrinya are tigrayans and therefore the land belongs to tigray. One should learn from history, especially when it is a recent history.

    History is being repeated in eritrea. The “unionists” have come back wearing their modernist attires. In actual fact they are worse than the old one. When eritrean unionists of the 1950s demanded for union with ethiopia, one of the reasons was that they saw the rationality of the economic advantage when a small region unites with a bigger one, which to a certain extent was true, because many eritreans benefited at least as long as it was peaceful. On the contrary, the “modern day unionists” want to unite eritrea with an equally small region and not even a country as eritrea happens to be, and in the long term in a worse condition economically compared to eritrea. This means eritrea has a lot to give and very little to take, and what she gives could be her own very soul, her sovereignty and independence.

    የማያቁት ሃገር ሄዶ ጂብ ቆዳ ኣንጥፉልኝ ኣለ ይባላል፤ ይባስ ብሎ፣ ኣይናኦውጣ ጂብ በሚያቁትም ሃገር ያንኑ ከማድረግ ኣይመለስም፤ What tplf and its supporters are doing today is to find the frog that will carry across tplf, the scorpion, and of course the naive who will share the burden of its crimes. Naive, gullible and power-greedy olf ultra-nationalists are easy targets but this frog cannot carry tplf a long distance. Eritrea and its people on the other hand are the most practical solution, not only for its short term problems, but also for the long term dreams of greater tigray’ with the pretext of one people and one blood. In this case tplf has a lot to benefit, and eritrea a lot to regret.

    Is tigray-tigrini a death certificate for eritrean sovereignty, territorial integrity and independence, or the renaissance of eritrea? For tplf certainly it is the only way it can survive by sacrificing eritrea. Eritreans should be told to be cautious of the ides of tigray-tigrini, greater tigray and agaziland, because if they come it will be at the expense of their very existence. It is poisonous for eritrea, far more than it is for ethiopia.

    Finally what to do about the lowland muslim eritreans, is a million dollar question, which none of the three tigray-tigrini, or agazilan or greater tigray projects have any answer. What is the fate of these people and their lands? Are they going to be second class citizens, dominated and colonized or what? Tplf’s time-bomb will indeed destroy the whole region if everybody is as naive as tplf and its supporters think.

    • Nitricc

      Hi Horizon; it gets worst. What I hear is that there are so many lazy Eritreans in Mekelle and the Tigryans are making deals with the Eritreans. The deal is the Tigryans give money to the Eritreans and the Eritreans go to Addis and invest, buy sell under an Eritrean on behave of the Tigryans. It doesn’t matter how you look at it, Ethiopia and Ethiopians are screwed. To tell you the truth, The Ethiopians are better off without this two criminal minded people. It is not fair for your country and people.

    • Berhe Y

      Hi Horizon,

      You know when I first heard the Agazian guy, I thought he was a criminal who wanted to exploit the situation in order to gain viewership / subscribers and make money by talking nonsense and controversial subject.

      It occurred to me, it was the project of TPLF, when the two (the main guy and his second in command) who had a fallout and they recorded their conversation (which was meant to be private) and posted it public in order to implicate one another. One of their main point of disagreement was (the second guy was upset about), why the main guy, revealed that TPLF was funding their project publicly, after the first guy had a fallout with TPLF.

      I was sick to my stomach they go that far to create wedge between Eritrean people (highland and lowlands).

      Now they found out that that project is dead (no acceptance by the majority of Eritreans, when he went to Isreael hold a meeting, out of the 30 or 40 thousands people, only 13 people showed up), then they changed tactics. It’s not even Tigray-Tigrini any more…..it’s there is no longer Eritrea, but only Tigray. All the Eritrean must forgo their country name and become Tegaru.

      The second guy now he has his own youtube channel (JStudio) and he is doing a lot of good work, I must say exposing the PFDJ, on his regular video., He mush have a team of writers, producers to be able to come up with so many documentary type of subject in such short time. What ever the TPLF were collecting after the so many people defected from Eritrea or using their intelligence, they have a lot of detail information with regards to security of Eritrea.

      He covered two topics, and I thought it was odd when I heard it.
      1) He covered the life history of Zerai Deres etc. and he labled him son of Tigray.
      2) He covered the story of Abraha Dobech and Mogos Asgedom, (the two guys who killed graziani in Addis Abeba) and he labeled them Tegaru.

      There is no question all of them are from present day Eritrea. I don’t know where this was going.

      Now they are claiming not only the people but also the land, the history and everything else associated with Eritrea.

      I just can’t wait to hear the life history of IA and start calling him Tigraway:)..to get a kick out of Nitricc.

      It’s crazy idea and I am sure there is no Eritrean (the most majority) will fall for it. This is a BIG RED LINE they are crossing..and I think this will lead to their demise.

      Berhe

      • Nitricc

        Hi Berhe; I looked it up the youtube bozo you describe and the first thing he said was how PFDJ officials are embezzling “Nine quntal” gold every two weeks from Bisha. Only a stupid person, I mean really stupid because in order to harvest “Nine qintal” witch is 900 Kg . To give you rough idea; to get 0.08Kg gold you need to move 90000 Kg of debris. How on earth is Eritrea able to produce 900Kg of gold just only to be skimmed? It means Eritrea is producing quadruple of 900kg only 900KG gold is stolen by the government officials. So, Berhe; since I don’t have time with stupid people like your friend, please deliver a message for me and tell him to get #$%@%@%@$%@$%@*&^#. No wonder why you are attracted to that garbage.

        • Berhe Y

          Hi Nitricc,

          I didn’t hear that story. Did they say pure gold?

          Anyway out of the stories you have to pick one that can not be proven right or wrong.

          How about the story of Jashua, Berhane G/her, Haile Durue, Ibrahim Afa, anune Antonios, the list of prisoners, the prison system.

          Berhe

      • Senay Zer

        Dear Berhe — As Paulos mentioned in one of his posts, let’s not forget the primary driver for all these drama is the internal weakness and total destruction of the fabric of the Eritrean society. They see an opportunity in our weakness. Unfortunately, this wave, which clearly is coming from a small but powerful corners of tigray elitists, is aimed at igniting another circle of violence and exploit that to gain sea access. As someone on twitter pointed out (rephrasing), we, Eritreans should be super careful because the war for tigray-tigrigni (there is no other way to achieve this goal) will not happen in Shire, Aksum, Adwa or Mekele. The war will be in Asmara, Keren, Mendefera, AdiKeyh, Dekemhare, Massawa and Denkalia.

        • Selam Senay Zer,

          You are betrayed by your comment that was pulled as spam.

          Okay here is your angle. Paint and convince Eritreans that there will be war amongst them. It will happen in their Keren, Dekemharae, …

          You put the Eritreans on the edge and they start to distrust one another to the extent every one is paranoid and start to arm themselves. Any you and your likes will know exactly when to light the match and unleash the monsters you are emboldening, arming, training and mimic them by becoming Eritreans oh… LaEleway Tegaru yours selves.
          Give it up my friend. The Tigrigna are no longer the majority in Eritrea .And even if they are, it is a minuscule of the Tigrigna that will fall for your traps. The only way you may fulfill your wishes of greater Tigray is if our dictator is on board and the hidden force behind these ridiculous designs.

          We ask our Muslim community to command a Fatwa.

          JOSHUA!

          tSAtSE

          • Berhe Y

            Hi tSAtSE, Peace and Senay,

            I understood Senay comments exactly how he has explained and I have upvoted him.

            The Eritrean Tigrinya leaders have been the greatest threat to their own people. This has been proven time and time again and thus latest assault that’s coming from Tigray, it has Eritrea Tigrinya speakers as their main alliance.

            Qeshi Dumetros and Asfaha Woldemichael, Tedla Bairu abd Tedla Uqbit, Isayas Afeworki and Wedi Qeshi Dinetros abd those many colonels in PFDJ, and now we see the agazians and new Tigray – Tigrinyi the likes of Amanuel Sahle and others engaged.

            The ERITREAN government should make and send unequivocal warning and it’s dissatisfaction the message is coming from Tigray and their sponsors. Eritrea intellectuals should have their meetings and conferences to counteract this devious, dangerous plan.

            There was this ERITREAN in attendance at the said meeting and he said, Tigray needs to spend a lot of money and resources on propaganda (he called it education) so to teach the new generation about the “fake Eritrean” identity. He said if we have 1000 people like me, then that’s all we need to change the views of the nation.

            Basically they going to divide Eritreans a against each other so they can get their intimate prize. It’s not only Muslim vs Christian, deqi kebesa vs deqi metahit but even further, those who wanted to be known as Tegaru while ERITREAN and those who wanted to remain ERITREAN.

            Berhe

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Berhe Y,

            I call your comment a healthy discourse. Yes, everything should pass through the court of mind. No leader, public figure, or cadre should be above scholarly questioning. They are all a subject of scholarly researches. Of course, We respect those who played a positive role in our history.

            Djibouti is a small country, and those to the South or North of her resemble her in culture; however, they don’t frighten from them or call to be united with them.

            Eritrea is far better in many things than Djibouti; therefore, why we require annexation to Ethiopia or Tigrai? In Eritrea the issue is strange. Why do these guys wish to dissolve Eritrea and annex her to Ethiopia or Tigrai? I think these guys are alien to Eritrea, and Tigrinia language has given them a golden opportunity to trade with Eritrea and her people. Eritreans should awaken from their deep sleep and curtail the naughty intruders.

            Al-Arabi

          • Selamat Berhe_Y,

            “The Eritrean government” is doing the same thing the Tigrayan government has been doing. Both government are funding entities that prolongs and justifies their power. Both the tplf and pfdj will not have an official stance or explicitly endorse what ever ideology, policy and plan of actions that allows them to maintain their grip of power. However as I have said above, both governments are pouring a tremendous amount of capital and resources to a select few that spin doctor such divisive topics or issues and meticulously propagate the message that serves them best.

            In Tigray ask any government official of their opinion on this not so new phenomena, and the response will be that the Tigrayans not only supports Eritrean sovereignty and territorial integrity, they in fact fought and died and will continue to do so for Eritrean Independence. Unofficially however, they are mobilizing and putting every effort to implement a strategy they have had since the very inception of the tplf. You have pointed out exactly what gives great advantage and better justification to the tplf’s modus operandi as compared to the PFDJ’s when you said:

            “Eritrea intellectuals should have their meetings and conferences to counteract this devious, dangerous plan.”
            Under the guise of freedom of speech for their people and the democratic right and freedom of expression, without having an explicit official stance on the matter, they utilize this strategy of expansion as their ultimate secret weapon of mass destruction as well as a preemptive defensive trench or fort against the threat of attack from the North. A not so very sophisticated game of war strategy much like chess. For now and at least for a few more years, the tplf has a tremendous amount of cash they have stacked from their tight control of all that is Ethiopia in the past three decades. Their abdicating power and reverting to their organizations, tplf’s, foundational end game ideology and it’s well charted strategy, Eritreans should now realize the REAL reason behind NOT implementing the borer ruling defying PMAAA and the Ethiopian federal governments course declared.

            On the other hand, the Eritrean government is intoxicated by the recent “show of force” and has already deployed a very haphazard reactionary and shortsighted strategy utilizing this new NOT so hot topic to the fullest. I will have to come back and provide the very detailed assessment of the blue print the PFDJ has drawn in order to gain a cosmetic upgrade in spite of their realization a clear and present existential danger both for their regime and Eritreans as a whole.
            And of course, as far as Eritreans are concerned there are at least three sides to this metaphorical coin that matter. The third face or actor of course being what we all collectively call the Eritrean Opposition though it is a term in need of correction. It should be Eritreans in Opposition. Where us both the pfdj (not the Eritrean government) and the tplf are in collusion to hype this “Tigray-Tgrigni” thing because it serves both of their needs and agendas, the Eritrean in Opposition will have to filter an sift all that utilize the “Eritrean Opposition” badge for cover to render the just and fair cause it champions completely in effective. It is the Eritreans in Opposition should find this time as the optimal moment to give rise and amplify what I consider to be the true Eritrean Government.

            And my detailed list of the pfdj’s playbook for the near and far future will be forthcoming shortly. I mentioned in my last comment to you of the announcement of the planned eventual head of state the pfdj has already in past a couple of weeks started to implement. This and the shenanigans at Dallas including the much hyped “THE QUESTION” I will include and expose it for what it truly is. Choreographed and a faustian deal made by the Dallas “Eritrean Opposition” and the pfdj and the scripted question by Omer challenging IA’s nationality. What a farse!
            As I am pressed for time right now.. . you will have to just wait a little longer for the DEVIL which will be in the DETAILS.

            Expect a great meal
            Zigni Alicha Tibsi and
            qillwWA……..

            JOSHUA!

            tSAtSE

            P.S. In another thread there was a very long pro Tigrai-Tgrigni comment addressed to you that you did not get to read. It was pulled right away due to a miss timing and immediate repellant that response to the comment. Pulled under the pretext of SPAM. The author of the comment Senay Zer. Why don’t you ask him to repost it without altering a single letter on the comment. I am sure he has a copy of it on his hard drive…… You are key Berhe_Y and your diligence is of the utmost priority at this critical cross road point in space and time as it is also required from the REAL Eritreans IN Opposition.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi tSATSE,

            What I am trying to say is, we need to counteract or counterattack in unison this unholy alliance. If an official ERITREAN government added its voice, it will just reinforce the message.

            Let’s focus in what we need to do to change the narration, specially the propaganda that’s aimed at the young generation who have nothing but negative experience by the PFDJ led government of Eritrea who are desperate to see change, that will ultimately change their sorry situation.

            But we have to tell our story, the Eritrea used to be and the Eritrea that we all dreamed about to see.

            There is no need to shop around for a nation when we already have one that we can turn to heaven as soon as we get rid of the devil within.

            We should not lose hope, we should not despair, we can only chart our own faith, no body else will.

            Most of all we don’t need to import identity politics, that has served the TPLF well in but created hell in Ethiopia.

            That’s exactly what they are gearing for and we should not let them.

            P.S. I think Senay is reading the comments, and he can make a request for AT moderator he he so wishes. I saw a reply but did not get to read it fully.

            Berhe

          • Teodros Alem

            selam berhe
            u said ” we can turn eritrea to heaven as soon as we get rid of pfdj” and u also said ” idintity poltics served the tplf well but created hell in ethiopia”
            r u sure u know what u talking about or just assumtion?
            there r a lot of smart approach to create tigrai- tigragn or what ever but u guys approach is more of the same , i don’t think both people can handle more of the same conspiracy and back stabbing any more. i recommend u guys leave the people alone and live ur whatever life in the west. because with ur kind of maintality and twisted attitude nothing positive will came out of it and the present situation of u people is my witness, unless u take stealing as success.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Teodros,

            Why don’t you tell where I am wrong or don’t know about it.

            Berhe

        • Peace!

          Hi Senay Zer,

          I thought you made an excellent comment the other day, but this one a sane Eritrean would say ከም ሽንቲብዕራይ ንድሕሪት. Either you are in panic or trying to spread one with no credible information other than dubious opinions — Paulosay, someone in tweeter, the Tigrean powerful Elites. You could simply flip history books and make a conclusion that serves the best interest of both people instead otherwise Eritrea’s internal weakness doesn’t invite Tigrean elites for adventure on its soil plus the war, I hope it won’t happen, would be a war between Tigray and East Africa, and as Salih said these barking on social media እታ ሓዊ ኣይጥበሳኣን እየን: please leave the poor people alone!!

          Peace!

          • Senay Zer

            Dear Peace — I don’t understand your point. Paulos made excellent point that other day about how the tigrigna irredentism wouldn’t happen if the gov PIA hasn’t weakened the country to the level it is now. I think that is a valid point. After watching the video were Ato Amanuel Sahle appeared, I also watched, courtesy of suggestions by youtube, video where TMH interviewed several Eritrea – the topics discussed the type of people they invited left me uncomfortable about their intentions. I also watched TMH with Girmay Behre and he made comments related to Eritrea and tigray-tigrigni that is really uncalled for. Also, I have seen comments by tigray commentators in my facebook and twitter feed – again the way they describe Eritrea, tigrigna speakers etc all made uneasy and I thought there is something happening here – may not be organized but there is certain wave going on. I don’t thing this point of view contradicts with my thoughts that the tigrigna people in both sides of Mereb should reconcile because the conflict between them is creating a huge problem for the others in both countries. Finally, the comment I read on twitter by certain Eritrean is a valid point. To those Eritrean tigrigna tempted by the idea of tigray-tigrigni, they should be think twice because any attempt to force tigray-tigrigni would indeed result in conflict and the conflict zone would the heart of Eritrea and Tigray. I don’t quite understand why you are saying I am spreading this and that and shinti bieray etc.

          • Peace!

            Hi Senay Zer,

            Sorry if I misunderstood your point! I was simply saying nothing new, and I think it would be wise to refer history than individual opinions when making conclusions on sensitive matters. What you are reading on social media was said and even tried practically on the streets of Asmara. And ever since, Eritrea has been መሐከሊ whenever things go wrong elsewhere.

            Peace!

          • Senay Zer

            Dear Peace — I agree that we don’t need to panic, but I don’t think we should ignore what seems to be an all-in assault. Part of me thinks, may be they don’t understand the current Eritrea but part of me can’t ignore the consequence of their actions.

          • Peace!

            Hi Senay,

            I totally agree. I was focusing on opinions that are meticulously designed to normalize the subject at hand. I am afraid the damage is done— I got out of college with Pan-Africanism mentality, and sadly, me and many others have found ourselves regressing.

            Peace!

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    Selamat!

    ክገርመኩም
    ዘርአኛ ምዃነይ ኣፈለጥኩን

    ስጋዕ ዘነግሩኒ ኣብ ዓይነይ
    መን ሙዃ ነይ

    ኩናማ መን ምዃኖም ይሰምዕ ብወረ
    ግን ኣይፈልጥን ኣብ ኤርትራ ወዲባት መን ከምዝነበረ

    ለካ ስድራይ ኣይኮኑን ነባራት
    ወነንቲ ዝገፊሕ ግራት

    ኩላ’ያ ተዓዲማ
    ሕጂ ግን
    ካብ ደቂባት ንላዕሊ
    መን ከማይ በሃሊ

    ትደሓር ዝመጸ
    ይመስሎ ዝተመርጸ
    ካብ ሰቡ ንላዕሊ ዝበለጸ

    ታሪኽ ዘይምፍላጥ ርጉም
    ሓደ ሜትሮ ንቕድሚት ሓሙሽተ ሜትሮ ንድሕሪት ትስጉም
    መዓልኩም
    እንዳባ ፍትሒ ተለኩም
    ‘ተዘይ ኮይኑ ወደሓንኩም
    ይብለኩም

  • Bahri

    I read an article recently on “Numbers Game: Philosophers cannot agree on whether mathematical objects exist or are pure fictions”. The author of the article argued if mathematical objects are real, why can one not touch, see or interact with them. If mathematics is fiction then what is history especially the type of history occasionally dispensed here as the truth even if it is read or sourced from a history book. I loved history in high school because my Pakistani instructor was a mesmerizing dude and he had a canny ability to make history interesting. I started to become suspicious of history as most history is a lot of fiction with occasional granular truth with good dose of fluff written by people to curry favor with a potentate.

    ..

    • Selamat Bahri,

      EMBARK! አምበኣርከስ the science of EMBARKusiolus fillets
      (አምበኣርከስዩላስ ፊለጦስ)

      There is a fellow from long ago named ShumBahri
      I am not the dazzling mesmerizing Pakistani
      just stretching the Number and recollecting history
      to ask you are you him the same ShumBaHri?

      “The author of the article argued if mathematical objects are real, why can one not touch, see or interact with them.”

      Lets see if I can help you out a tiny bit so that you can touch Number and then formulate an answer for the author’s dilemma I quoted in the above sentence. You will start by touching the number within you with your eye. So stretch out one hand all four fingers facing you and the thumb is folded. You will see on each finger three lines roughly two thirds the length of the finger (0.61803 is the exact ratio, measure your very own by taking the average of each ratio. This ratio is called the Golden Ratio.) But let me speed this up and make it more interesting before.
      Three(3) divides on Four(4) Fingers facing you. 12 Twelve years you were to learn in school sentenced by 12 judges each year has 12 months… you are allotted with 12 hours for your day to study and earn by selling eggs by the dozen and as you were instructed there are 12 in a dozen. For your night 12 hours is allowed but you are free to stretch it into 12 seconds in a minute, 12 minutes in an hour, and 12 hours in a day. Your initial Three lines in a finger multiplied by 12 are the seconds, the minutes and hours equaling 36 and all along tenfolds of the 36,(three sixes 666, what the devil is this? you may be asking…) but you can’t deny that from touching the Number with your eyes 360 degrees now you will touch your earth. Lets bring in the folded thumb as I see many of you are scratching your heads… The folded thumb is your Fifth finger you consider, is it not? Well then do you doubt the Five(5) multiplied by the Three(3) lines on a finger multiplied by the Four(4) outstretched fingers 5x3x12 yields 60 degrees.

      What part of your body do you use most to touch an object? If your first response is fingers? then how do you explain touching the four outstretched fingers with your eye at the beginning of this exercise? You should by now realize that you can touch the entire earth with your fingers without moving an inch. The 360 degrees you derived from the lines on your four fingers the fifth folded thumb multiplier and since you have two hands ten folds of the 5 twelves you yielded 360 degrees.

      The answer to the author would be to illustrate your seeing, touching and interacting with the numbers 1,2,3,4,5,6,10 and 12…36, 360.

      You see 7, 8 and 9 were skipped. That is because Seven ate Nine and as a result Nine fears Seven. Well Seven is PRIME to begin with and after making a meal of Nine the Number Fifteen boldly declares it is a quarter of all things … then 25 appears with a strong opposition to the claim. Well my friend it is about time that your mind sets its course… wait first consider the 60 degrees above and the Golden Ratio 0.61803 ዳርጋ ክልተ ሲሶ ኢየን ሓቀይ? በለ ባሕሪ ካብቲ ዘለኻዮ 39.9576 ደግሪ ሰሜን፣ 75.1652 ዲግሪ ምዕራብ፣ ዓዲ ሓውኻፍቶ…
      .. yes… time for your mind to set its course and disembark, and then:

      EMBARK! አምበኣርከስ ኢድኩም ሕ. ሰብ. ዋ።
      ሕ=1. .
      ሰብ = 2 ..
      ዋ = 3. …
      ————
      ። = ።
      ========
      (. + .. + …) = (1/2)(12)
      12 = 3(።)
      [(. + .. + …) – (.) ]3[።] = 60
      ሱሳስ ኣለዋ

      ጃሽዋ!

      ጻጸ

      • Bahri

        Selam GitSAtSE the ” math wiz”

        The argument of the writer an accomplished mathematician in her own right was:

        How do we know whether mathematical statement is correct or not? In contrast to scientists, who usually try to infer the basic principles of nature from observations, mathematicians start with a collection of objects and rules and then rigorously demonstrate their consequences. The result of this deductive process is called a proof ( if you care to know had tons of them in high school by my Indian teachers ..and more ) which often builds from simpler facts to a more complex fact. At first glance, profs seem to be key to the incredible consensus among mathematicians. But proofs confer only conditional truth with the truth of the conclusion depending on the truth of the assumptions. This is the problem with the common idea that consensus among mathematicians results from the proof based structure of arguments. Proof have core assumptions on which everything else hinges and many of the philosophically fraught questions about mathematical truth. I hope you don’t cut your fingers to illustrate a negative number multiplied by a negative number is positive. Going back to the discipline of history it is ain’t what it is as it can easily be manipulated by the writers or interpreters of history. That is all Mr.
        GitSAtSE

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    Selamat!

    ንትራምፕን ኢሳያስን እንታይ የራኽቦም
    መዓት
    ወለዶም ስደተኛታት
    ካበይ
    ካብ ካልኦት
    ሃገራት

    ሃየ
    ክልቲኦም የምስሉ ሕሉፋት
    ጽሩያት ዜጋትታ

    ዝገርም ‘ዩ: ስለምንታይ ግን?
    ኣብ ውሽጦም
    ገለ ነገር ኣላ ትበልዖም
    እንታይ?
    ኣይትሕተተኒ ሕታቶም
    ንዐዖም

    ክንደይ ወለዶታት?
    እንዲዒ
    ጉግል ግበሮ
    ምስፈለጥካ ንሰብ ክትምህሮ

    ኤእ! ከመይ ‘ቢለ
    ንዓኻ ምሕታትዩ ዝቐለለ
    ካብ ንዓይ ትሓትት ኪድ ናብ መቐለ
    ክትረኽቦ ኢኻ ታሪኽ ዘይተበለለ

    ኣትሊስት ብዛዕባ ኢሳያስ
    ሓረግ ናይ ሃጼ ዮውሃንስ

    ምዝጉብ ‘ዩ
    ስለምንታይ ድዩ ደኣ ብጃንሆይ ተሓርዩ?

    ገሪሙኒ
    እንተ ተገሪሙካ
    ዕድመ ስለ ዝደፋእካ
    መሲሉኒ
    ምስራኣኹኻ በሪሕካ

    ተጋግየ
    በል ታሪኽ ኣንብቦ
    ዘለናዮ ኩነታት ክትረኽቦ
    ክትዕዘቦ
    ኣብ ማህደርካ ክትምዝግቦ

    ርእሰ-ምትሓት;ዩ ትጸገም
    ደቕዲቑና ዘሎ ኣብ ጉሁም
    ናይ መን ‘ዩ በጃኻ እቲ መርገም
    ከምዝመስለኒ
    ኣብት ቅዋም ብዛዕባ ዜግነት
    ዘሎ እምነት

    ንሱ‘ዩ ትጠንቂ
    ኣንጻር ኢሳያስ ኣፈወርቂ
    ኣፈጨርቂ
    ኣፈጠይቂ
    ኣፈጸይቂ
    Simple
    ጓዕጓዕ ኣብሎ በልዎ ጠርሙዝ ኣረቂ
    እንተ ተረኣዮ ጩራ ናይ ሓቂ
    ተዘይ ኮይኑ
    ኩላትና ንማህለል ፍንጭል ከተብሎ ናይ ነሓሰ-በርቂ

    ከይበለዐን
    ‘ተን ዝሰረቐን
    ናይ ቢሻ ኮነ ዛራ ወርቂ
    ኣሬጋቶ! ወዲ ማራ-ደቂ
    ኤእ ጥንቅቕ በል ካብ ድርቂ

  • Simon Kaleab

    Selam Saleh,

    You said: “Yohannes was not interested in Language (Tigrinya) as a bonding element
    He wanted his empire to be baptized and adopt his religion and he was forcing everyone to convert.”

    Don’t forget that in our region religious wars were started by the Muslims of Sudan, long before Emperor Yohannes came to power?

    Furthermore, there is no equivalent phrase to ‘Allahu Akbar’ in Christianity. This is because, unlike in Islam, there is no concept of religious war in Christianity.

    • Saleh Johar

      Really Simon,
      Selam Simon,

      There is no religion that didn’t wage war against its predecessors. Never, starting from Joshua, going through the Crusaders, to the inquisition, to ISIS and many, many in between. Maybe you can tell us what they cried when they killed the people–not neccessarily the exact words–but that is to explain the similarity.

      Correct your information. The Sudanese Dervish assault was in late 1800s–they fought against Yohannes and killed him–it was not before him. Please tell us about what happened by the Sudanese before that?

      Are you questioning Yohannes was religiously motivated and not liguistically? I would like to hear about that.

      • Simon Kaleab

        Selam Saleh G.,

        Joshua?

        Those Old Testament events relate more to conflicts between, mainly, nomadic tribes over grazing grounds and watering holes; not about religion. In any case, they have no validity now, they cannot be replicated.

        The Crusades?

        They have no religious basis in Christianity. But they were defensive wars for access to places of Christian worship and against Muslim extortion. Remember, in the Holy Land, the Jews were there first. Then came the Persians, the Greeks and the Romans. Around 70 AD, the Romans massacred the Jews, destroyed their Temple and kicked them out of Jerusalem. Later on, the Romans became Christians, built many places of worship and put more restrictions on Jewish entry to Jerusalem. The Muslim Arabs invaded the area in 636 AD under Caliph Omar bin Khattab.

        The Dervish, the Turks and the Egyptians were invading the region long before Yohannes. In his last battle, the emperor was winning the war through his capable generals. But he insisted riding into the heat of the war and ended up being killed by sniper fire.

        • Saleh Johar

          Okay Simon,
          Your premise is that only Muslims , by religion and nature, are violent. Boring. I am done. Go ahead declare victory and I wish you an apartment in heaven, with a balcony and sea view for you defended God superbly 🙂

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Saleh G.,

            Obviously, Christians were involved in many wars. But these wars have no religious basis in Christianity.

        • Hameed Al-Arabi

          Ahlan Kaleab,

          You endeavor to make a hero out of the British agent. You like people to live continually in the state of war – a sign of mental problems. This is not my issue of writing these lines. When I came across the name Yohannes it popped in my mind the whereabouts of the head of Yohannes. As you know, Satan is famous for his interference in every issue; therefore, you might know whether the head of Yohannes is still in Khartoum, or returned to Ethiopia. Is it true Jaffer Al-Numeri gifted the head of Yohannes to Haile Sellase?

          Wean off Eritrea as you weaned your mother’s breasts.

          Al-Arabi

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Hameed,

            You have no substance except ranting.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Kaleab,

            Could you tell me your positive role in the world. I will tell you, you are just a heavy load to humanity. Truly, the world requires another Hitler to furnace people like you.

            Al-Arabi

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Hameed,

            The Sudanese nomad being revealed step by step.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Kaleab,

            You hurt humanity much than benefit it. Greediness blinded your mind. You are skilled in an errand job. Always behind mankind, retarded and uncivilized. You live like a brute at a cave and have a caged mind that doesn’t develop. Your mind is sealed to continue living in the Stone Age. You don’t resemble Eritreans, stop telling us you are an Eritrean. You have to conceive that an Eritrean is a social person who integrates with all nationalities. He is not an introvert and hater of humankind. You have the traits of Satan. Wean Eritrea as you weaned your mother’s breasts. The Red Sea is the property of Eritreans and Eritreans only.

            Al-Arabi

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Hameed,

            Try to put some substance in your writing.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Kaleab,

            I know what you mean by a substance. Some substances for you it means to grab, rob, torture, kill, etc. You are the last person in this world to speak about a substance. You are fuming, boiling and evaporating with hatred. Nothing stops your mind and soul that is occupied by hatred except burning itself to ashes. Elites are those who play a positive role for their people and humanity in general.

            Al-Arabi

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Hameed,

            You know well who has the culture of grabbing, robbing, torturing and killing. That is what you are doing all over the world including to Eritrean refugees in the Sudan, Egypt [Sinai] and Libya.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Hameed,

            Be reminded that grab, rob, torture, kill is your trademark.

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Simon,

      How about the war between the catholics and Protestant in Irland? How about the religious war during the Protestant reformism within the Catholic Church in Europe? Aren’t those in themselves the concept of religious war?

      • Haile S.

        Hi Emma,

        … and before that, St Bartholomew’s Day massacre in France in 1572 and the war between the catholics and the Huguenots (Protestants) around that time for decades that ended up in the killing of millions of french. It was the second largest religious massacre in Europe.

      • Simon Kaleab

        Selam Amanuel H.,

        No religious basis in Christianity for any of them.

        In the Irish case, the conflict was over economic resources.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Simon,

          I thought you know history, but I don’t think. Go refer history books or check with historians. I don’t want to go back and forth to argue for something on record books, but I will leave you with this link if it can help.

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_wars_of_religion

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Amanuel H.,

            Not everything that is written is true or correct. Next time, read with a critical eye.

            I am telling you that the wars you mentioned have no scriptural basis in Christianity. Do you find this difficult to understand?

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Simon,

            Denying is not part of a critical mind, in case you miss it. We haven’t seen any critical analysis in all your comments so far. Have a good one, for good.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Amanuel H.,

            Who are “We“?

            What part of scriptural basis you don’t understand?

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Hi Simon,

            The “Awate forumers”. You like kolel. I am done with you Simon.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Amanuel H.,

            Are you elected or appointed by “Awate forumers”?

            It is easy; admit that you do not understand the topic under discussion.

    • Brhan

      Hello Simon,
      You can’t read history in the opposite direction: Yohannes went after Tigrayan Muslims first and Tigrayan Muslim sought asylum in the Sudan and then the Mahdi went after Yohannes. .
      It is said that when Ras Seyoum Mengesha sought asylum in the Sudan, he thanked the Sudanese by saying that his grandfather was at with the Sudan and yet he found asylum in the Sudan.
      Thanks

      • Simon Kaleab

        Selam Brhan,

        You can’t use a telescope from the other end either.

        • Brhan

          Hi Simon,
          I presented a fact in history: you did not. I can’t babysit you anymore. Done with you.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Brhan,

            You presented fiction.

  • Hawaz Tesfom

    Selam Mr. Saleh,

    You said: “So, I am disappointed by Wedi Sahle because he sounded like a third-rate scholar, unlike what I expected.”
    How you dare to pass a judgement on Amanuel Sahle and deprive him his scholarly achievements. Is it only because he didn’t dance according to your whistle? We know that you are street-smart and a good talker. But I don’t think you are in the position to do so since you don’t have any academic achievements.
    You said: “I would also like to remind the fascists to stop threatening other Eritreans by wielding the Tigrinya stick (Northern Ethiopia). But why do they think they are the only ones who can forge cross-border alliances? Don’t they know alliances are open to all if it gets to that? Are the regions south of Eritrea the sole ownership of Tigrinya speakers, their reserve forces? What is there to prevent other Eritreans from forging similar alliances… be it in the south, east, or north of Eritrea?”
    Is it a threat? Telling us, if you align yourself with Tigray, we Muslims, we will align with the Arabs. In your map you included even Iran, a Shia country. WOW, good to know!
    First of all, you are a Jeberti. You are just abusing hospitality forwarded to you by the Nobel Eritrean people. Secondly, please go back and check history. The Eritrean/Kebesa stick is always resilient victorious and dominant.
    By the way, Eritrean Kebesa and Tigray are blood related. If they unite as one country, it is just natural. Be advised that after the Isaias era, these two brothers need to unite.
    Also, don’t try to create hostility between Eritrean Muslims and Christians. We were/are brother and sisters before/after the arrival of Jebert. You don’t have any power to change our harmony.
    I advise you to represent yourself or the Jeberti for that matter, but not the Eritrean Muslims. We Eritrean Christians and Muslims don’t allow outsider’s interference.
    Thank you
    Hawaz Tesfom

    • Saleh Johar

      Oh poor Tesform,
      You really believe you are hosting me? You really do?
      If you start from that, I have no ability or will to debate based on medieval, tribal, and racist notions and mentality.

      You do hate yourself, don’t you? One is not qualified to talk about Muslim/ Christian harmony when his messages are all racist and hateful. Divide and rule is an old tactic and it has been overplayed and lost its lust. Give it up.

      But why do you need to hate others just to prove your love for whoever you love at any given time ? (because your type switch lovers frequently)?

    • Brhan

      Hello Hawaz
      You said “By the way, Eritrean Kebesa and Tigray are blood related” You are true only we hear that in Tigray they say ካብ ነበረኒ እማ እንኤኒ! and are looking southwards and not northwards….a friendly advise don’t misuse the pronoun “we” .

    • Nitricc

      Hi Hawaz; reading your take made me to see the problem a little deeper. People come from Africa and settle in the US or Canada. Not only they are allowed to work but they are allowed to vote, to run for public office and ultimately given their citizens. meaning they have the right for everything that nations offers. So, if a person can come and do those thing in the USA or Canada. My question is why are you having this problem with people who were born, raised and fought for country? Remember an Eritrean came all the way from Africa can be an American, yet you are abdicating their right? I don’t know Africa and I never have been there and I don’t want to generalize but I think you Africans have a big problem. And I am starting to understand why you have the leaders you deserve.

  • Haile S.

    ሰላም ሰብ ዓወተ፡

    ትግርኛ ተዛረብቲ ኤርትራውያን ትግራዎት ኣይኮኑን፡ ተባሂሎም ኣይፈልጡን፡ ሎሚ ኮነ ቀደም ኮነ፡ ቅድሚ ጥምቀት ኤርትራ ኮነ ድሕሪኡ፡ ብዘመን ኢኒ ኢኒ መዓር ጭደናይ ከም ማይ ክዛሪ ከሎ ኮነ 🙂 🙂 (courtesy of Abraham Antico፡ one of my favorite comedians)!

    ንስኻ ስኹቶ ኢኻ ካብ ትብለኒ
    ስምካ ንዓይ ሂብካ ካብ ትሰርቀኒ
    ንስኻ መን ምዃንካ ዘይትነግረኒ
    ብዘይኮንኩዎ ካብ ትትኽትኾኒ

    ** ንስኻ ውኻርያ፡ ኣነ ኣርሓ ደርሆ ጌርካኒ?
    … ናይ ጓል/ወዲ ሓውቲ ዲኻ ክትስዕመኒ?
    … ኣበይናይ ሩባ ትፈልጠኒ
    … ኣብየትኒ ጉርሒ ኣብየትኒ
    … ናብዚ ታሕቲ ውረደለይ እትብለኒ
    … ግደፈኒ ቢለካ ኣይትገድፈኒ
    … ብሓደ ኣፉ ዓሻ ክትቆጽረኒ **

    ንስኻ መን ምዃንካ ዘይትነግረኒ
    ብዛዕባኻ ዘይትጸውየኒ
    ዘይተሳሕቐኒ
    ብዛዕባ ትግራይ ሓክየኒ
    እንተጠሓንና ክልቴና ጥሕኒ
    እንተኣዳለና ክልቴና ዝግኒ
    እንበልዖም ኣብ በብይኑ ሽሓኒ
    ኣጠማምታና ብነናህና ዓይኒ
    ቁጽሩ ዝተፈላለየ እንወድዮ ሳእኒ
    እነድምጾ በበይኑ እንሰምዖ ብእዝኒ
    ግደፎ ሸም ምዕዳል ሰሪዕካ ቦጦሎኒ
    ኢድ ዘርጊሕካ ሰላም በል ይተረፍካ ብቐርኒ
    ቦቦታናን ሰስምናን ድኣ ንሓዝ ጉርብትና መተኣማመኒ
    ክርስትያን በሃላይ ኢኻ እሞ ኩን ድኣ ብእንዳኻ ኣመስጋኒ

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት!

    ሓደርካ በለኒ ጎረቤተይ
    ዋክ ንዳገብርኩ ምስዛ ብርኽቲ በዓልቲ-ቤተይ

    ሓገዝካ ኣይደልን በልኩዎ
    ጠመተኒ ስለዘደናገርኩዎ

    ጽንሕ ኢሉ
    መን ክሕግዘካ ኢሉካ?
    ኣነ ዝበልኩ ሓደርካ
    ‘ዘን የእዛንካ
    ጀሚረን ድየን ክፍስሓልካ?

    በለኒ
    ቶኪሩ ጠመተኒ

    ኦ! ሶሪ
    ለካ ክሕግዘካ ኣይበለንን
    ስለምንታይ ደኣየ ‘ሞ ኣይትሕግዘንን?
    ኢለ ዘራፍ ዝብል
    በዓልቲ ቤተይ ገረማ
    ኣበይ ኣለኻ ዘይተበሃልካስ ኣብዚ ‘ለኹ ትብል

    ዓጀብ! ሓቅኺ

    በጊዕ ከይገዛእናስ ኣበይ ከምንኣስራ
    መብረድ ቀሪብና ከነብልሕ ካራ
    ትኪ-ብትኪ ገበርኩዋ ብጉራ
    ኣብ ጥራይ ኢደይ ኮነ ፈኸራ
    እሞ
    ነዛ ዝፈዘዘት ሓንጎለይ መን ይሓብራ

  • Haile S.

    ሰላም ሳልሕ፡

    ናይ ትማሊ መልሰይ፡ ምስ ኣንበብኩ ጽሑፍካ
    እንሆ ናይ ሎሚ፡ ምስ ሰማዕኩ ቃና ቃላትካ

    ገለ ሰብ፡ ብዓሌት ክትሓቛቖፍ ከሎ
    ዝነቁሕ ዝገፍሕ ዝዕንብብ ዘሎ ይመስሎ
    ዘንጊዕዎ ሓንጎሉ ይጸብብ ከምዘሎ
    ተሓጺሩ ኣብ ሓንቲ ጸባብ ካንሽሎ
    ንፍቕሪ ይገድፋ ኣብ ሞቕሎ
    ንጽልኢ ብዘድለዮ ታሪኽ ይስሕሎ
    በታ ዘላቶ ተኽእሎ
    በታ ጎደሎ
    ምልእቲ እትመስሎ
    ዓይኑ ስለዝሸፈነ ብጸለሎ

    ሎሚ ዘዛርበና ዘሎ፡
    ጳውሎስ ከምዝኣመቶ፡ ካይንብሎ ጥራይ ቅብጸተ-ተስፋ
    ዘይንጽበዮ ስለዝኾነ ካብ ሓደ እንብሎ ፈላስፋ
    ዓሌቱ ሰጊሩ ፍልጠቱ ንወዲ-ሰብ ዝግብኦ ከሰለፋ

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    Selamat!

    ኣነ ኣብ ባር ሊኖ ከስተንትን
    መተዓቢተይ ኣብ ጥቓይ ዘላ መስጊድ ከእዝን
    መማህርተይ ኣብ ሜዳ ኤርትራ ኮሚደረ ክመዝን

    ይዝከረኒ

    ካፑቺኖ ዓቲረ
    ነቲ ዓፍራ ገንጺለ

    ክሕንፍፎ
    ብንጣብ ዓፍራ ክጽየቕ ጎልፎ
    ዋይ ኣነ ዘገንፎ

    ድሕሪኡ ምስ ረፈደ
    መንእሰይ ከይተሰደ
    የምርሕ ናብ ባር ሊድያ
    ኣወዳት ክስጉሙ ኣዋልድ ክጎያ
    ናብ ሳንታ ፋሚልያ
    ኣነሞ ንታይ ኢለያ

    ትዝለዓለ ጥርዚ ናይ ኤርትራ
    ምዃኑ ነዛ ነብሰይ መን ‘ዩ ዝሕብራ
    ድሒረ ዶ ሓቀይ ማራ?
    ክገርምኩም ኣይተበሃልኩን ፋራ
    ዌልልልል መን ድዩ ኣላዪ ኤርትራ?
    ዘመሓድራ
    ምሩቕ ናይ ዩኒቨርሲቲ ኦፍ መንደፈራ?
    ኦር መጠራ ኦር ቃሩራ ኦር እምባ ሶይራ?

    ኣይፋል
    ነታ ካለጅ ሓደ ዓመት’ዩ ሪኡዋ
    ብድሕሪኡ ይፍተሓላ ኢሉዋ

    ከምዝስጎግ ምስፈለጠ
    ከነታቱ ክቕየር መረጸ
    ሽዑንሽዑ ናብ ሱዳን ተቦቆጸ

    ክገርምኩም

    ከምዚ ሎሚ ከይኮነ ከደናግር
    ዓድ ሓሎ ዝብል
    ከምስል

    ብሰንኪ ኣብርሃም ኣፈወርቂ ጸሊእዋ
    ንድባርዋ

    ንጅግና ብትወደድ ኣሲሩ ሃገራዊ ‘የ ይብል
    ‘ዞም ጉፉፋት-ጉኑፋት ይብሉ ዕልል
    ሕቡእ ፕላን ናይ ጎይትኦም
    ከይተርደኦም
    ይስዕቡ ደድሕሪኡ
    ክሳብ ሱር መሰረቶም ዝጠፍኡ
    የሕዝኑ

  • Brhan

    Hello Saleh,
    I am sure Amanuel Sahle needs the blessing of our elders: ኻቲማኡ የጸብቐሉ።The wise are those who come back to apologize for their mistakes!

  • Selamat Saleh,

    I stopped by your spot or actually your spot parked at my drive way after I subscribed and put your decal on my car. In other words, I hit the subscribe button for youtube delivery despite the fact that I have been getting following the weekly installments from right here the website. Upon clicking on your mug and entering, the noise was deafening. I had already fully enjoyed 52 [not to self The Parallel] and I certainly got a good dose of “IT DOES NOT PERTAIN TO YOU! MIND YOUR BUSINESS] Here is. s suggestion! Make a T-shirt with your mug (that’s your face pic) with caption “This does not pertain to you! Mind your wax.” Or a Meme… maybe I will get it to circulate and it goes viral, relatively speaking, but I digress… though it is about the noise in your stadium that was roaring. I couldn’t focus between you shuffling Negarit #18 and the current Ashenda bazaars you were switching to and fro and the roars from the stance that was the cause of my disorientation. A little filtering of all signals, synchronizing frequencies here and there and adjusting the magnitudes of a couple of sources just a tad I found up and close with your rapidly growing fan base. As I zoomed on individual cheers I was in complete agreement for I feel 52 confirms the projections are promising exponential if not asymptotic. And then within seconds I had my fill of large rooms and huge crowds, a phobia the crept in before I realized it, and exited of course with a definitive sample data extracted. I much rather this cosy privileged with a members only feel to it darkly lit, hole in a wall damp and smokey humid den, amongst washed up doctor poets who want to be engineers and coders, that pharmacist dude peddling drugs to perfectly healthy folks, construction workers clearing road block obstacles with Nitric acid, blind and blinking heavy machinery operators, homeopathic Haile Es ences healers who for a promise to put a pair of goats on and to float his boat sneaks you a sealed vial containing the elixir previously tucked under his sleeve …. then suddenly the space curved bent left and right it then squeezed and expanded exactly as Einstein described.

    Thanks note to self and here we are: The 52nd Parallel.

    Astrophysicists due to solar flares huddled, gathered and compiled their instruments and tools and set out to the observatories then positioned and angled sensitive scopes, setting aside the magnifiers opting for filtration as the power of the signals from the flares were more than very strong to get excellent reads. And without a doubt as far as our dearest subject Eritrea is concerned this week has been akin to a solar flare. And as you know, before commencing to sift through the data for some analysis and implementing quick responsive actions, mind you that solar flare ups could be powerful enough to penetrate the magnetic field and knock out all synthesized and controlled power, including artificial intelligence, the filtration of simply just noise is of the utmost top priority.
    The point here is to state the two parallel lines at the Fifty Second and two impactful forces on either side, make known the preliminary reads of the displaced vector signals and their linear transformation effects on numerous shifted and scattered vectors. Now all one has to do to apply these initial implied findings all one has to do is remember that having the knowledge how a specific system or environment functions the physics is universal and so the full comprehension and acceptance or recognition of the occurrence or existence of these forces and after effects is proven by the principle of mathematical induction PMI.

    [ Saleh Ghadi’s Ashanda Vs Warsay Werasay and the Crown Price Abraham – Sorry I just thought of a title for this commentary about the time I was thought the next paragraph. Providing you with the title the path is for the purposes of encouraging you to suffer through the next paragraph which contains what most people irrationally fear the math… but I will also pick out some volunteers like maybe Paul, Nitric or Berhe_y… see you down there!]

    Before I provide pairs of the lines, postulations, methodology, lab experiments and state either the implied and/or explicit or both or none, I will give an example of a simulation that maps a stick figure to it’s ghost or shadow after it undergoes a linear transformation by a function or a force, such as from this weeks solar flares like forces, The linear transformation function simply takes the stick figure (some thing like (;:-0)-}) say on the first quadrant of the cartesian x&y plane and projects either a magnified or scaled down ghost stick figure in any direction or on any of the four quadrants.) So say I ask all of you now with your index finger to touch the tip of your nose. The point you are pressing in some ware out in space, a 2 dimensional world, has a vector x and y points (1,1) a transformation matrix with two rows and two columns 2×2 with entries (1, -1) and (0. 1) would displace the position of your index finger pressing your nose, point(1, 1) shifts to point(0, 1). And similarly is the ghost projections of the stick figure. Ahh just google and get Matlab, you will have a ball.

    Here at this point I would like to tell you that through this sort of mechanisms is also all your vector positions, shifts, glides and slides accumulated or tracked and the prescription filled, sealed, tucked under Haile S. the healer’s sleeve, delivered and nearly consumed ahead of the examination of the ailing body and writing or suggesting the prescription? Folks we have all entered the FIFTY SECOND PARALLEL. You know like this ||

    This week setting the foot down on the one side of the parallel line landed Saleh Johar Ghadi’s with his Negarit#52 Ashendewa. Take note of the title blurring whether it is a tap or a nudge to a friendly or enemy. He has the touch to let you decide that for your self. On the other side of the parallel line is lets start with the word Werasi pertaining to Warsay. Well folks, it has been officially and publicly announced the Crown Prince Abraham the First will inherit the Kingdom. It was by celestial calibrations you were made to celebrate the word Warsay! And At the hour’s time of 1Qt’s on the exact vector positioning all the nobles are mapped to a permutation sayWar!Sawa!SayWAR is to be declared feeding the inferno to be by leaking flammable gasses. [maybe exactly one of you or more are reading this at a time quarter past the hour? Check your clocks.] Yes the formidable video production of SAWA25, the Admiral acknowledged the “show of force” a reaction to something or another…like adding an e, an n and d. — no no don’t worry that wasn’t part of math formula you have to memorize.)

    And so after mapping numerous nodes, including the tip of all noses, figure of speech I suppose but accurate, here is what I, you know me as tSAtSE or Gi like in GiJoe you know the industrious ant, yes what GitSAtSE thinks about this slow leaking of flammable gasses because you are doing it. BLUERD! what’s going on Yo? Why is it the mapping of some stick figures, figure sticks themselves, can’t figure to figure what needs to be figured out all ready? I mean come on! don’t lie to yourself because doing so is to venture on accomplishing an impossible task. Don’t lie to yourself again. So is it BLURED ? or is it VIVID? Ya Dig!

    With regards to Mr. Amaniel Sahle consider it as paying homage to his stile of writing and communicating. I had paid close attention when he wrote for shaebait as an employ of the ministry of information. I would say he is defiantly loyal to his employer at any given moment. He has since long ago someone to hold accountable for criminal intentions and now I am neither surprised or interested. However the fanning of anti tegaru now that you feel anything goes and from either side does not diminish the noblest of causes which is War. I mean what ever happened to the glories from all Wars like when it is fought for a just cause.

    This is where your mind should map and set it’s course and I do allow you to disembark and then:

    EMBARK! on A WA! r in a circle like A WA! r

    right.

    JOSHUA!

    tSAtSE

  • Sam

    ”Zey-wegih Mesilwas Ab Bokhra Hari’a ” eyu nay Memhr Sahle ( or Wedi Sahle) neger!! Advise to Memhr Sahle:It looks like nabra Sidet bertiuka eyu zmesl. Do not lose hopes. Look around, majority of Eritrean intellectuals are outside Eritrea. But they are not compromising their scholarly integrity. Nehwatka msel. ajoka!ll

  • Nitricc

    Hi All; I know I am dubbed as ignorant of Eritrea, Eritreans and Eritrean politics. But let me tell that I am not surprised by current noise of the Tigryans. They have been muddying the waters for so long some gullible Eritreans never paid the due attention. It is no accident that most of Tigryans naming their children typical Eritrean names excluding the Eritrean Muslim names. To get the bottom of this madness, I started my inquiry with why would TPLF help EPLF in eliminating ELF? TPLF and EPLF joining forces to destroy Ethiopian forces is one thing but for TPLF to join in eliminating ELF is something else deepest. ELF was In way of the TPLF’s final plan. It is a simple logic, as long as Eritrea includes the lowlanders in the decision makings of the country; the two Tigrigna speakers can’t build their Tigray-Tigrigni delusion. So, it starts with whenever it was, when TPLF decided to join EPLF to eliminate ELF. TPLF knew exactly what they were doing and till this day, I have no idea why EPLF allowed and cooperated in attacking ELF. Sure there could be political differences and opposing views but when EPLF allowed TPLF to do what they did, in my opinion that was the greatest treason against a nation. Who they died were fighters the sons and daughters of the people. It is common for two rebels in one country to disagree and eliminating one to the other but involving a foreign force in doing so is well, crime and treason. The Tigryans never failed to tell that they paid price for Eritrea too and most of think they are bragging about eliminating Derg but NO! They know what they are talking about. And there are corrupted old people the likes of Desbele and hayat telling you every lie by pretending to be Eritreans. The sad part is whatever Tigryans are thinking, can be worked out, it doesn’t have to come at the expense of the lowlanders of Eritrea but they just don’t want Eritrea that includes the lowlanders of Eritrea. NO. The Eritrea is Tigray will go on till the Tigryans copycat Eritrea till there is nothing left distinguishing between Eritrea and Tigryans. Eritreas say they paid 65K lives for independence and the Tigryans claim the same, although there was record kept. Once TPLF reached Addis, said “if your sons and daughters didn’t come home, then it means they are dead”. But since the goal is to muddy Eritreanism to the point of no difference, Tigryans claimed the same number. Eritreans started festivals, the Tigryans followed. Eritrea celebrates martyr’s day, now the Tigryans followed the suit. Eritreans section their country in Zoba’s so do the Tigryans. You name it what Eritrea does, you will find it the Tigryans mimicking. Again the goal is to copy everything till there no way to differentiate Eritrea from Tigray. The is a reason I tolerate PFDJ.

  • Haile S.

    Selam Saleh,

    Well said! This is a spill from the boiling crisis in Tigray. Those fanning it are normally people who should know better. Jumping from Axum to Menelik II to arrive at Eritreans as the culpable of all headaches of Tigray in wrong. Mr Amanuel deliberately excluded centuries of history that have contributed to the distancing of the people of his tigray-tigrigni utopia very long before some well-wishers coined the terminology 80 years ago. Yes after the fall of Axum, the power-center shifted south either with the people or to another people or a variant of both. Only a historian with scholarship and integrity can tell us who the Axumites were, how did they lost power, and what were the consequences. Only a gullible would dwell on past glory of people who built Steles on a land now inhabited by people with different king of civilization. The new power-center started administering these regions by nominating a Bahr-Negasi and a Tigre-Mokonen (tigray-negasi) for the people on the two sides of the mereb river. Centuries later this was followed by the weakening of the central power and the rise of regional lords including in Tigray whose crimes on their northern ‘brothers’ cannot be buried through silence. This anarchy ended when Italians came and formed Eritrea. Just to mention as an example, the inhumane treatment by Tigray warlords who use to put roasted grains (ውዑይ ቆሎ) inside the ears of Hamasien or AkeleGuzay peasants who couldn’t pay taxes (ask your grandfathers or great grandfathers please) was just obliterated. One may put aside (not bury) a history for reconciliation purposes, but not for lynching the victim of that same history. Mr Amanuel’s presentation is squarely Tigray-centered for Tigray-refurbishing by Eritrean-bashing. Because a country (Eritrea) containing a tigrigna speaking people was formed by the consequence of history, the other tigrigna speaking southern people don’t need to do the same, but can if their choice. However, failing this trying to destroy Eritrea using every instrument possible including one’s reputation is wrong. Present Ethiopia should find remedy not by exporting its ethnic clashes, but by finding a solution to it.
    One doesn’t reconcile by bashing. Mr Amanuel’s discourse was devoid of seriousness. He dived right into in the dirty pond that he accuses others of swimming in. His discourse was tailored to his audience for a momentary wow & waw and glory. His mention of some prominent Eritreans of Tigray origin was not intended to glorify them (glory to them), but to mix them in the mud of ethnic superiority that he allegedly accused many Eritreans to harbour. He uses the same instrument of lynching, the same weak ladder that he accuses Eritreans of using to get an upper-hand. Mr Amanuel’s ruse is self-flagellation, when at times he says ‘we’, in order to flagellate wide & large. No one said Eritreans are pure-bred people with a stamp on the temple side of head! They are as varied and as mixed as the rest of the region, and its tigrigna speaking segment the same.
    Tigray inhabitants (tegaru) are not purebred Arabian studs who only give genes. They are mixtures of every imaginable gene in the region including outsiders like Greeks, Egyptians Armenians and +++. Those who claim of white skin to the point of getting confused for a ferenji at the airport can be a mixture of one of these. Eritreans are not different, whether they speak tigrigna, saho, tigrait or any other language, they were not artificially inseminated pure-breds. Therefore, throwing this silly lash on Eritreans is just dishonest.
    The current labelling of you are this and that is wrong. To belong to Tigray and admitting to be Tigraway should not be used as a yardstick for designating one as a progressive Eritrean. Tigrigna speaking Eritreans are not Tegaru, but can have a tegaru blood and of Tegaru origin. Tegaru simply refers to the inhabitants of Tigray. Tigray since the fall of Axum is delimited by the mereb river on part of its noth. Tegaru is a plural word for Tigraway. When one says I am Tigraway, he means from tigray. It is extremely uncommon for a person from Hamasien, Akeleguzay, Seraye or Senhit to hear him say I am Tigraway. Only the gullible can turn the dignity to insult by using it as club to hurt another. We need to be careful of that.

    • Teodros Alem

      selam haile s
      axum kingdom( what ever it was) was a geez speaking people kingdome, after the Greeks , the geez speaking people was the rulers of axum , there is no 1 single evidence that show it was tigrai kingdome except it’s capital located inside the present day tigrai .

    • Yisac Abrham

      Selam Hail S. , Saleh Gadi,
      If you two were to lecture history, I would sit in the front seat to listen and learn. My hope and dream are that there would be national reconciliation so that all capable individuals like you to serve your country Eritrea.

    • Saleh Johar

      Oh Haile,

      Don’t bet me started on the breed stuff. One story from the Napier expedition will drive hundreds crazy.

      Indeed, Amanuel really disappointed me. I never expected such a low-level statement from him.

      I think this ethnic mentality has crippled so many brains–the already crippled are getting endorsements by those we thought were enlightened.

      Hey, the poem was beautiful though I couldn’t comment on it–I was busy reading and re-reading Tsatse’s comment. Still I can’t understand what it was about. I will read one more time hoping I will understand even part of it.

      • Haile S.

        Selam Saleh,

        Yep, if everybody knew what lies under the cover of the ethnic puritanism propaganda! And yes it is crippling many more and more unexpected individuals. That is precisely the reason your myth-buster talk should continue. It is difficult for people who are in its shell to break it from inside. More knocking from outside, like what you are doing is necessary. Don’t get dissuaded by those who startle-jump at the slightest smell of your talk. Best

  • Paulos

    Selam Ayay,

    Your side of argument is brilliant and compelling. I suggest you fly to Meqele and engage them in a panel discussion and let history decide.

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Dr Paulos,

      Where could I find this controversial issue Amanuel Sahle had said it, for which the forumers are debating on it? I found the three parts interview about his life and his love on literature and art since his childhood. Could you help me on that, so that to have first hand read or listen to it, to form my independent judgement to it.

      Regards

      • Paulos

        Selam Professor A. Hidrat,

        You will find it on YouTube channel, “Tigrai Media House.” It is in one of their videos and I believe it is two parts. What is even more surprising is that the panel discussion was initiated by Eritreans in Meqele where to the chargin of some people, they refer Eritrea as “ላዕለዋይ ትግራይ” and Tigrai as “ታሕተዋይ ትግራይ.” Sorry didn’t mean to give you additional info you didn’t ask.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Thank you Doctore, I will try to find it.

        • Berhe Y

          Dear Paulos,

          I don’t know what TPLF / Tigray are upto, but I don’t think it’s wise to consider any of what they are propagating worthy of anyone time.

          Recently I have been listning to a youtube channel by J-Studio, who I think the guy names Jose (May be Joshep, Yosief). If I am not mistaken he is the same guy who use to be part of the Agazian, who had a fall out with the main Agazian guy (Tesfasion). And their main problem is, why Tesfasion had said publicly that they were supported by TPLF.

          I honestly like his presenation and all the information he has been sharing and telling. I hope it’s accurate and it will help weaken the regime.

          However, I think there is a couple of issues for me that we need to be mindful.

          1) How can this guy have this much information readily available? Someone from inside must be providing him all the information or all the information is collected by TPLF, when they were in power and they are providing him. Regardless where it comes from, as long as it’s accurate, I don’t think it’s a problem.

          2) There are a couple of episode where there seems some odd way, to the way you are describing calling Eritreans north of Mereb as Tegaru.

          Here is the title of the episode:
          1) አዲስ አበባ ብቦምብ ኢድ ዘናወጹ ተጋሩ ሓቀኛ ታሪኽ አስግዶም ሞጎስን
          2) ታሪኽ ዘርአይ ደረስ ታሪኽ ኢትዮጵይውያን ወይስ ተጋሩ

          In both cases they describe them as Tegaru? I really do not understand the reason why they chose it. It seems to me that, anything that happened before the country Eritrea was born, they seem to assume or wanted to make it look like we were all together and called Tegaru.

          Berhe

          • Paulos

            Selam Berhino,

            The reason we see unrelenting assault on Eritrea’s historiography is because Eritrea is weakened—weakened from inside out. That was precisely the reason that kind semblance of Irredentism never was pushed when Eritrea was on a solid foot hold–either during the last years struggle for independence or ten or so years into independence. This is to say that, the malice is tentative and will subside when once again Eritrea rises up politically and economically. And one can appreciate the crucial significance of the removal of dictatorship which is eating Eritrea up to the extent of rendering Eritrea መስሓቒት ጓህማማት!

            P.S. You can see how hopelessness is pushing people like Amanuel Sahle not so much to betray history but to lose heart on the Eritrean identity which was borne out of the protracted thirty years struggle for independence.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Paulos,

            Greed is very dangerous. What the Tegaru doing is pure greed that they are not able to say “it was only 30 years ago, that our people have perished because lack of basic food and water” and we have build ourselves up greatly. We should continue the path of development and peace” in order to leave a lasting legacy.

            They are really picking a wrong fight and expect to win. But instead, it’s quite dangerous for their people what they are leaving behind. Enemy to the north, enemy to the south and land locked.

            Berhe

            Berhe

          • Teodros Alem

            selam berhe
            it is not greed , it all comes from tplf/eprdf idology.
            right now 1/4 of tigraians live under sefity net program, according to this year’s farming season rain, next year the people that live under sefity net estimated to be 1/3 of them.
            If there was no war and poltical instability 30 years ago , it was possible to save peoples life by just aid( sefity net), nothing much change.

          • Peace!

            Hi Paulosay,

            Nothing new Eritrea has been weak for decades, why 2019? But as Salih aptly put it on the above video ንሶም ክጥዕሞም ከሎ ንዓና ይሕሸና —you can’t justify Amanuel’s dubious move against Eritrea and Eritreans.

            Peace!

          • Thomas

            Hi Peace,

            Remember Amanuel Sahle is the first person to oppose PFDJ ideology and their system. He always try to dig deep and bring issue that is hidden to most. This the guy who openly said “Tegadeltn Hizbn Ma’yn Tseban koynom”. This was in Demtsi Hafash so everyone heard it. The time was I think between 1992-1993, I believe. He said this when people like you and I were worshiping tegadelti. Do you know who was amazed by the brevity of Amanuel Sahle? The EPLF fighters (Tegadelti) loved Amanuel Sahle for pointing out the truth.

          • Peace!

            Hi Thomas,

            ….and your point is? Nevertheless, one can’t justify backstabbing under any circumstance.

            Peace!

          • Thomas

            Hi Peace,

            I would not call it backstabbing, but a strategy to find friends to get rid of a common enemy. I wish the tigrayans take whatever they think is right to the heart and help us topple the brutal dictator. It is a short history that they helped us gain our nation’s independence; and again it would be very nice if they can help us to get out of our current misery. They have time and again shown that they have a firm stand and respect for the sovereignty of our nation. If they want to help us so as both people on both sides of the border take advantage of investment, economic development, freedom and peace, I see no problem with that. Do you, peace?

          • Peace!

            Hi Thomas,

            ዕድል ኣይገበርናን ቶማስ ሓወይ We are stuck in between TPLF that’s good at backstabbing and PFDJ, good at shooting itself in the foot.

            Peace!

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Thomas,

            I heard they are giving citizenship in Tigray for anyone from Eritrea. Why don’t you pack and leave and leave Eritrea alone?

            We don’t want to any help from Tigray to get rid of the dictator at home, it will only complicate things and divide and destroy our country.

            Look at the help the Somali got from TPLF and what happened to them.

            For sure we don’t like out dictator at home and we can’t wait to see him go, but if Tigray comes to our land and invade us, then they should be prepared for the ultimate destruction.

            And why do they care about the Eritrean people all the sudden?

            Berhe

          • Thomas

            Hi Berhe,
            Hahahaha, “I heard they are giving citizenship in Tigray for anyone from Eritrea. Why don’t you pack and leave and leave Eritrea alone?” Please do not justify that your name is used to name “b’erayas” bulls in Eritrea. Don’t act like one. Why would the tigrayans invade Eritrea? Is this the B’eray Berhe thinking or the human one?

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Thomas,

            I don’t know. Why did they invaded Somalia? When asked Melles said “we are invited by the TFG to protect and secure it”.

            What exactly do you mean when you said “ I wish the tigrayans take whatever they think is right to the heart and help us topple the brutal dictator.

            It seems to me that, you are inviting them to take what ever means to help get rid of Isayas. Then what’s in return for them?

            ብዕራይሲ ደሓን፡ እንካዕ ድአ ሙሽሙሽ አይኮንኩ እምበር፡፡

            Berhe

          • Peace!

            Hi Berhino,

            ኣይትሓዘሉ ፊያቶ የብሉን (max 3 exchanges) ዞም ጎራሓት “ up vote” ጌይሮም እንዳርሰንዎ እዩ::

            Peace!

          • Thomas

            Yah Peace abi seb:) De’i tefargena:)

          • Peace!

            Hi Thomas,

            Lol…ዛነገር ትኸደካ ኣላ ፍሬኖ ሓዘላ ወላ እግርኻ ብድሕሪት ቀርቂርካ ጠጠው ኣብላ:: ከምዘን ናይ መደበር ክራይ ብሽክለታ ንገብረን ነበርና::

            Peace!

          • Thomas

            Hi Peace,

            I think with one more up-vote, you will become Sibhat Efrem:) Are you happy now? You seem to care. I have to tell you that you have the potential to rule the world. I see kindness everywhere in your comment. Keep it up! I am glad you are not inherited rudeness from me:)

          • Peace!

            Hi Thomi,

            …far from rude ቀልጢፍካ እንዳሐረቕካ ኢኻ ደሐር ካኣ መጫርምቲ ኣይመረጽካን (እንደሚኖ) 😂

            Peace!

          • Thomas

            HI Berhe,

            Ok, let me clarify what I said. If they tigrayans think we are their blood brothers, sisters and they want to help. Let that be their reason and we can stretch our hand seeking their help as long as they know Eritrea is a sovereign nation. It is common, the British think they are one with the Americans and the reverse. Why are we so allergic, so threatened and panicking. They will always be our neighbor so as the Sudanese and the Djiboutians. Do not act like the real bull again, matters like the Samali and ours is different. The history of Somalia and Ethiopia is obvious. It was never about the weyane and the Somali people. It was the continuation of the Mengustu era. Somalia is a mess and you see country like Uganda, Kanya and others invited to involved.

          • Peace!

            Hi Thomas,

            ምስ ኦሮሞን ተረፍ ናይ ደርጊ ኣምሓሩን ኮይኖም ደም ኢርትራዊ ክሰትዪ ከለውኸ ብ DNA ኣሕዋትና ኔሮም ማለት ድዩ???

            Peace!

          • Thomas

            Hi Peace,

            Ms Shaebia/EPLF koi’nom n hihawom Amharai, Oromo ms ka’lo’ot anda re’shenu nab ADDIS kmirishu kolowuke ah’watna di’om walas tsela’etina e’yom ne’rom?

          • Nitricc

            Ok, let me clarify what I said. If they tigrayans think we are their blood brothers, sisters and they want to help. Let that be their reason and we can stretch our hand seeking their help as long as they know Eritrea is a sovereign nation. It is common, the British think they are one with the Americans and the reverse

            Hi All; the above statement is the dumbest EVER said on this forum. Trust me there are many stupid and dumb people and with their stupid and dumb comment but this is IT. hands down! what a stupid person Thomas is?

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Thomas,

            Let’s forget the Somalia example, even thought I think it was relevant to see what the TPLF / Melles has done and left the country with ruins. The rest of African countries got involved as he pressured them and they become victims of the mess he created.

            Back to TPLF. Yes they are out brothers and yes they are our blood and yes we want to have good relationship. Are we asking them for help? May be you are, but I am not and I am sure the most majority of Eritreans do not want their help “as in military help to topple IA Afeworki”. Other help like humanitarian help, political help, moral help, what ever other help that will help out people to overcome this difficult times is welcome. Like what Sudan has done in the past, or still doing today.

            Have you seen Eritrea military display at sawa? As much as I despise IA, please make no mistake about the Eritrean people resolve to safeguard their country and their unity.

            They cut the relationship for the past 20 years, the new generation knows nothing of the friendship, blood brothers and etc…except misery and hardship which was caused by PFDJ and to some extent by TPLF.

            Did Eritreans when the opportunity come that Italy was able to provide protection, hesitate to take it so they will live in peace because the Tigray war lords are off their back. That’s the situation we are finding ourselves. Why didn’t that time Eritrea, say we are blood brothers and fight along side with them.

            Brother or blood means nothing if it’s not based on respect. They have no respect for the Eritrean people, the whole Eritrean people including those Eritreans from the lowlands.

            They should live us alone and mind their own business.

            Berhe

          • Thomas

            Selam Mr. Berhe,

            That is what Berhe thinks. Thomas knows that Eritrea’s sovereignity is well protected because Eritrea is a member of UN and the people of Eritrea will always there to protect their beloved nation. The hardest thing to do is to get rid of the parasite among (from within). These parasite live by confusing people of your kinds. The longer this parasites are within us, the shorter the lives of our innocent citizens will be. As it is obvious, young Eritreans are leaving droves and at the end, the dictator is achieving his goal, “kilite hizbi e’yom zbl nezi hizbi zeifolto e’u”

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Thomas,

            I think you are confused and you don’t know what you are talking about. I can only understand your frustration for how long it’s taking to get rid of the dictator.

            What TPLF (as in those who organized this meeting) we are talking about saying “we are one people, Tigray-Tigrini should form it’s own country) and IA is saying the same thing.

            They should know what, what IA said “one people” is the catalyst that we needed to have our people rise, but it seems to me that you are asleep and snoring (including people like Amanuel Sahle and their sponsors) and don’t know what’s going on.

            Berhe

          • Thomas

            Hi Berhe,

            I hope I am not as confused Berhe is. Kem nefahito eka tikayayr ezi ki’a melelyi bahriyatka e’u. Please stop going with the flow and make your own stand! “Kem’nifasu ai’tkun”

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Thomas,

            I would like to take you seriously but I don’t agree when you make up story and not telling the truth. It would be helpful if you show me where my confusion is or that I am change my views.

            Last time you accused me that I write to please Sahel and now you are saying “I go with the flow and have no my own stand”.

            I think, you have a lot of baggage inside that you are afraid to spill it out, please go ahead and say what you see.

            You seem to make the case and in agreement and repeat the argument of those who do not want to see a viable and independent Eritrea (with all it’s boarders and it’s people) but instead, an Eritrea that’s handwinked and chained with Tigray.

            Berhe

          • Thomas

            Hi Berhe,

            Is that is your best shot, really? I do not think that this shot is coming from the human, Berhe. Think again. I am scared of what?

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Thomas,

            Do my views align with that of most Eritreans including Saleh, yes off course. Why would that make me being papagalo. It’s what I like to see what Eritrea to be abd there is no shame in that. Do I have the ability to articulate what I think the same way as others, no I don’t. Is it wrong if I endorse or support some people idea which I think that benefit Eritrea and it’s long term peace, no I don’t think so.

            You don’t have even the capability to think back and ask if what you said and wrote make sense.

            In this case we are discussing Amanuel Sahel and what he said, nothing else. If you agree to what he said, that I gave you in the quote and told you where to move your mouse to listen for yourself, then say so.

            Instead, you are telling us to give him the benefit of the doubt like Dr. Bereket said or what he said during 1992, qamusha adey hankukini gelemele, TPLF should come and save our people, we are brothers we are people hatew qetew.

            Berhe

          • Thomas

            Selam Berhe,

            Good day/night! Go to your bed. Just remember to come up with your own stand. Just read your own mind and I will up-vote for every comment you write here – knowing it is yours. Salih is very tolerant of others opinion and I am sure you will admire you for smart thoughts.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Thomas,

            Good night niAka.

            I really do not want to bring Saleh into this argument, but I brought it to remind you what you said the other day when you repeat similar comment that I have no stand of my own.

            I was trying so hard to keep it to myself but you sound one of the failed experiment of Andinet, they brought nothing but misery to the ERITREAN people and now they are on another similar mission, where the Eritrean people saw nothing but misery.

            That’s why I told you to go and apply for Tigray citizenship and leave the ERITREAN people alone.

            You can’t even own what you said.

            I should have listened to Peace.

            Berhe

          • Thomas

            Hi Berhe,

            I guess I should have said good night at your DEMBE instead. Good night now!

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Thomas,
            True, I always try to be very tolerant. But I do not like my tolerance to be taken for granted and as an excuse to abuse. Stop your provocative insinuation, for the Forum’s sake and out of respect of its members.

          • Thomas

            Go ahead take your best shot! Remember I’m doing you a favor by visiting your forum here! Go ahead Mr. King. Just remember I’m not your Berhe

          • Nitricc

            Hi Thomas; I hate to get in between both of your garbage in garbage out but you can never accuse Berhe being wishy-wahsy. I know the guy. By theway so is your father Tigryan or is it your mother? I mean hack the way you are defending the TPLF thugs, I won’t be surprised if both of your parents are from Tigray. Nothing is wrong for being from Tigray what kills me is why hiding it? I never get that.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Thomas & All,

            I listened last night the panel discussion of the four panelists that includes Amanuel Sahle. It is bizarre to think about “Tigray-tigrni” at this time when Eritrea is an independent state. To have one language and similar cultural value is not the prerequisite to unite the two Tigrigna speaking people that Amanuel was trying to make his argument. It is beyond that. I am disappointed by Amanuel, a man with his caliber could not understand the psychological make up of the two people. Unless he is against the sovereignty of the nation with all its social groups inscribed in it, he can’t bring the old concept of “Tigray-Tigrini” that was floating in the 40s. Is he looking this Tigray-tigrini with in the framework of Ethiopiawinet? How about the half section of our society? Or is he thinking about the old British proposal to partition Eritrea – the highland to Ethiopia and the lowland to Sudan? I can’t even understand his thinking about the overall Eritrean people. Really very sad the role he is playing against the Eritrean social make up and Eritrean sovereignty. I hope to reconsider this unbecoming bizarre view, and stick with modern Eritrea the way it is recognized in the world communities.

            Thomas, the issue is not what he was doing back then, the issue is what he is trying to do now. He is acting against the aspiration of the Eritrean people, and I abhor his current view and the Eritrean people should resist to his view.

            Regards

          • Thomas

            Hi Amma,

            Like everyone here, I resist against anyone who try to reverse our country’s sovereignty. Remember, Dr. Bereket was harshly criticized over similar controversy and he had to do the clarification there after. Obviously, Amaneul Sahle has to do the same, as simple as such! Until then, any one is guilt until proved innocent otherwise:)

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Thomas,

            Have you listened to what he said? I don’t think you have. The prove is in what he said and why others have to prove. Look at the video part one and scroll to 1:25, he was talking about Tigray-Tigrini and he said ” other prove do you need.

            He said “አነ ትግራይ-ትግሪኚ ዝበሃል ሃገር እንተተቃቑሙ አነ ይቅበሎ እየ፡፡ እነ ጽቡቕ ገይረ እየ ዝወስዶ፡፡ እዚ አብ ኢትዮጵያ ዝመጽእ ዘሎ ለውጢ፡ እቶም ትግሪኛ ተዛረብቲ እንተ ዘይሓቢርና፡ ከምቲ ናይ ቅድም ጸገማት ክገጥመና እዩ፡፡ ብአምሓራ፡ ብዓረብ ስለምታይ ክንሓብር ስለዘይደልዩና፡፡”.

            Berhe

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Paulo,

            I don’t think TPLF and Tigray elite are reading and understanding the current state of Eritrean people.

            I personally do not think, Eritreans have had better optimistic view to see the fall of PFDJ as they do now, since summer of 2001.

            Most Eritreans were asking the TPLF to abide by the ruling and demarcate the boarder and we will deal with Isayas and PFDJ right after. The missed that opportunity, and missed it for good. And even now, after Abiy and Isayas bromance, instead of taking full advantage and they are backtracking and not seeing the big picture.

            They should not give IA any excuse from the trap he got himself in and give him no excuse.

            They were hoping Eritrea to explode and divided, and help install a puppet government that would allow the disintegration of Eritrea so they can curve out what ever part / people they want and who cares about the rest. Now that plan has failed and they are trying to divide Eritrea (Highland, Afar and Kumana on one side and be part of them and the rest in other side) and who cares what happen. This is foolish, this is dangerous and this is a threat to their survival. Axsum kingdom? There is no Tigray without Adulis, really?

            They really do not see that PFDJ is one breath away from exploding but Eritrea is in tact. The opposition is organized, the people have joined the fight in mass, the intellectuals have formed united front ( they don’t see the appeal to Tiffany Hadish, the state of the nation at eritreadigest) they don’t see the young who have taken the fight both inside and outside the country, the endless leaks, the endless information, the endless seminars and fights …, and vision of future Eritrea…

            Paulo arkey, Eritrea future has never been promising and that we are on the right track. Please note the upcoming yiakl conference in Sept and see the participants. They are so creative with their approach, fund raising, fight tactics and organization.

            Berhe

          • Haile S.

            Selam Berhe,

            Silence is the culprit. It is unimaginable to expect public debates in Eritrea. As Minister Fozia said, PFDJ’s slogan is “ባህሊ ስራሕ እምበር፡ ባህሊ ዘረባ የብልናን”; therefore, countering arguments cannot be expected from Eritrea. That is one of the advantages of having forums like Awate. The purest propaganda can be taken for truth when there is no reactioን and is the only available version of an event. Abraham DeboCH, Moges Asghedom and Zeray Deres are victims of silence and deliberately forgotten history in Eritrea. Unless rectified, those claiming them will have them.
            Do you know the tigrigna saying ስቕ ምስበለ እንድዮም ዝቐበርዎ!

          • Paulos

            Selam Hailat,

            I was actually thinking about it yesterday—what Fozia had to say about the culture of silence. And I thought that was not only stunning but also the clear indicator of the abnormality of Eritrea.

            States certainly can only function through institutions and institutions can not function without written or spoken languages. To be more precise, institutions can not function in a complete silence. Fozia’s hubris and brazen assertion or should I say brag, clearly indicates that, her and the entire PFDJ edifice are still in ሳሕል! It is just astounding to say the least!

            Transparency and Accountability, the two fundamental pillars of state formation do not or can not function in a culture of complete silence. Complete silence can only function in Mafia Isaias’ world.

          • Haile S.

            Selam Paul,

            I absolutely agree. What Fozia said is the most dummy philosophy that I have ever heard. This idea has been there with PFDJ for very long. When they say the camel or turtle passes bla bla bla, that is what they mean. They have another dummy philosophy what they repeatedly mention ad-libitum እታ ሓቂ. These are their signs and their seals and their manna.
            “Silence we are working” the way they use it is analogous to “Silence we are killing”. It reminds me of a french book with the later title “Silence on tue” published in 1986 by 2 prominent french intellectuals, André Glucksmann (philosopher) and Thierry Wolton (journalist) exposed on how Mengistu let the famine of 1984 come and grow in Ethiopia in order to siphon millions in aide by deliberately ignoring the seriousness of the problem. It is a fascinating book that I read long time ago.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam haile s
            1, no government respond to any unofficial( individual or groups that r not recognize as representative of any groups) statements,
            2, silence is much better than laying ( giving false information) like the ethiopia gov do.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Haile S.,

            Let me play devils advocate. Former minister of finiance, Berhane Abreha has been member of the PFDJ government for a long time before he was turned and decided to stand up to Isayas Afeworki.

            I don’t believe any ERITREAN, at least since Sept 18, who is not able to see Isayas Afeworki fir what he really is. Berhane Abrehe, stayed at least 15 years silent.

            I see Fozia Hashim conference in similar fashion that she has turned and the meeting will give her more ammunition to challenge him.

            I pick on Berhane but we can say the same by all others who defected the regime at some point.

            IS is not challenged or threatened enough to want to seek, any sign of weakness. If her mission was to convert people to support PFDJ, then she has failed miserable but instead, she has capitalized on the opportunity to spotlight her name.

            Berhe

          • Selamat Berhe_Y,

            Thanks to Saleh’s current title Ashendewa, I checked out the Tigrayans ok I will say the dirty T word Tegaru…. Beautiful young women decked and manicured dancing to the toon. On Sibra when the beat is doubled the hook to the jamming song is the word “Digital.” Hey I don’t have a habit of checking out the Tegaru digitally or otherwise. This week I also checked out a debate amongst Tegaru on the topic of Article 39…. and then an Eritrean comedian with great Asmara, Sawa, girls jokes or setups thinking I was in Eritrea I ended it up in a beautiful pub.I suppose somewhere in Tigrai. BLURED, or is it VIVID?

            But here why I am addressing you, Are you making a connect between JStudios with what or not so Ayyashu cousins have been chanting Digital Weyane. But look at the economic activity and cross profiting with either agreed upon or not agreed upon crossings of the undelinieated border?

            Now homework for you or a MISSION!

            Locate the Official and Very PUPLIC Announcement or declaration that the Crown Prince will Indeed TAKE OVER HIS DAD’s JOB. I have been able to hack my way to the entire script… The Wedding was in August at Sawa25! and the HitSinot is Festival Season … The Theam: WERASIEY WIRES WARSAY… Hadish welleddo the handing of the Shig… you know like my avatar top left corner, LOOK.

            JOSHUA!

            tSAtSE

          • Berhe Y

            Hi tSAtSE,

            I will be honest, I don’t understand what you are saying. In the past this type of writing caused me to misunderstood you and I thought you did it intentionally to divert the discussion at hand.

            I really do not give much value what “digital” or “otherwise” weyane try to do. Like I said, JStudio, who ever the source is, doing great service to expose the PFDJ and I can say, it sounds incredible accurate, for that I think we should be grateful, not to mention the superb writing and narration.

            I believe in ERITREAN people wisdom and dedication, and like the Greenland / Danish people told Trump. Eritrea is not for sale and it will never be but open fir business.

            Berhe

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    “ነቲ ብዱልሲ ኣንታ ብዱል ኢልካ ክትጸርፎ”
    ንስንኩል ዓረብያኡ ከተግድፎ
    ወይድማ ጎቦ-ሶይራ ሰቒልካ ከተጽድፎ
    ተዘይኮይኑ ፍሬኖ ተበቲኻ ኢልካ ሸለው ኣብ ድርፎ
    ያ ድሌቶም ክእለቶም

    መዓልካ ሳልሕ
    ኣንታ ‘ንታይ ክትረክብ ዛ’ መርዘነይ
    ቶዂቲኽካ ዘተሳእካለይ

    ኣግ ኣዝያን ዶ ዳዕሽ
    መኒኦም ይሓይሽ?

    ዘዛርብ ባንዴራኦም
    ዘቀራርብ ንኽልቲኦም
    ግፍዒ’ዩ ሃይማኖቶም
    ምልክቶም
    ከይሳዕረሩ ብኣግኡ ንመክቶም

    ብውልቆም ስለ ዝጠፈሹ
    ናብራ ናይ ካልኦት ከፍርሱ
    ግራት ጥፍኣት ንክሓርሱ

    ሓድሽ ብልሓት ይምህዙ
    ንነብሶም ፈዚዞም ሰብ ከፍዝዙ
    ወዲ ኣዳም ከደንዝዙ

    ከይደቀሱ ሓድሩ
    ንወዲ ሰብ 2000 ዓመት ንድሕሪት ይመልሱ
    ኣብ መውዳእታ
    ንሶም ውን ይጠፍኡ ሰባት ምስ ኣፍለሱ

    ስለዚ
    ወጊድ ንበሎም ሕጂ
    ይዘርኡልና ‘ዮም ዘለዉ ፈንጂ

    ከይፈንጀሩና
    ዓድና ከይቀየሩዋ ናብ ዑና
    ኣብ ገጾም ግብ ነብሎ ማዕጾና
    ሰላም ክሰፍነና!

    • Saleh Johar

      ዎ ሃንድስ,
      ዝገደፍካ ዘይብልካ! ነቲ ነዊሕ ዘረባይሲ ኣብ ደርፊ ቀይርካ! እሞ ኻኣ ናይ ምቁዛም ቃና ገርካ ከተብክየና!

      እንታይ ክወጾ ዝሃንደስካዯ—ኣነ ሞ ከም መልቀስ እየ ተጠቂመሉ ገና የልቅስ እየ ዘለኹ

      • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

        ጸላኢኻ የልቅስ
        ‘ንታይ ገበርካ መምህር ሳልሕ
        ምልቃስ ደኣ ደም ‘ኳ ‘ዩ ዘፍልሕ
        ‘ተዘይኮይኑ የብርሕ
        ኢሎሞ
        በል: መደበሲ ክዕድመካ ‘የ “ፉል-መሰላሕ”

        ኣብ በይ ኤርያ
        ሽሽሽሽሽሽሽ… ከይትሰምዓና ምኒስተር-ፍትሒ ፎዝያ

        It is not me, it is just part of my job: ~10% of it has to deal with Failure Analysis. ወረ ሓደ ሓደ ግዜስ [ብፍላይ ደቂ ‘ንስትዮ ክሪኢ ከለኹ] ከመይ ዝበልኩ ዶተረ ምኾንኩ ይብል ‘የ።
        ኣበይ ‘ሞ ‘ዛ ርግምቲ ባዮሎጂ። ‘ታ ኬምስትሪ ‘ውን ዳርጋ ኣይመባልዕተይን ‘ያ።
        ክልቲአን ከም ስርዓት ‘የን ዝፍሰሓለይ [በቲ ኖርማል ቋንቋ የሕማቓኒ ማለት ‘ዩ]

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Dear Mehandsay,

          Man! You can’t believe how I am laughing on your poetic arts. Amazing. Keep it the flow, they are foods to our thoughts and provocateur to a healthy thinking mind. Bless your heart and your knowledge.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Thank you, Emma!
            ክቡር የኽብረካ መጠነ ነብሱ ድዮም ዝበሉ ሓቀይ?

        • Paulos

          መሃንዲሳይ,

          ወይ’ኣነ ደንቆሮ
          ‘ታይ’እየ ዝገብሮ

          ኬምስትሪ ተበሉኒ
          ዶልሺ መሲሉኒ
          ተጠዓምክዎ ዕረ ጥዒሙኒ

          ፊዚክስ ተበሉኒ
          ‘ሽግለታ መሰለኒ
          ተተወጣሕክዋ ብኣፈይ ሰዲዳትኒ

          ነዘን ክልተ ዝመለኸ
          ከመይ ተዓደለ
          ኣፋውስ ቀመመ
          ሮኬት ሸመመ

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ዶተረ:

            ኣብ ሃይ-ስኩል ከለና: ሓደ መምህር ኬምስትሪ ቀላል ‘ያ። O, H & C ተጽኒዕኩም ትዝበዘሐ ካብ ዘን ሰለስት’ዩ ዝስራሕ ይብለና። ካብ 27 ንላዕሊ ዝብዝሓ ኣይመሰለንን። 11th grade ጅምር ምስ ኣበልና ግደፎ: ተሓዋዊሱኒ ተበልኩ ይሓይሽ።

            ኬምስትሪ ክሰምዕ ከለኹ: ሽዑኡ ምስ ሰንበድኩ’ዩ መስለኒ…….ተዘይተዛረብኩ ይሓይሽ።

            Few years forward ሓደ ዓርከይ ካብ ካልእ ስቴት ደዊሉ ይዝከረካ ዶ ናይ ዓስራይ ናይ ሳይንስ መምህርና ይብለኒ።
            ከመይ ‘ለ ክርስዖ ዘይከውን ተስፋ ዝሃበኒ ይምልሰሉ። በል ኣብ ኮሚኒቲ ካለጅ ምሳይ ኬምስትሪ 1A ይወስድ ኣሎ ምስበለኒ፥ ጋን ተሰሪሐ።
            BTW, his major was not chemistry ምስበለኒ: በል ደሓን ካብ ሎም ንደሓር ኣይሕዘሉን ‘የ በልኩዎ። ኣብ ዘይክእለቱ ብዘይ ድሌቱ ከምዝወዝዕዎ የዕሊልዎ።

          • Paulos

            Caro Geometra,

            There is an element of truth when people invariably say, ስደት is a social experiment. For instance, those who were well off in back home more often struggle to get by much less to keep their high end life style afloat here ኣብ ስደት. One can equally say the same about academic excellence as well. Some, who were top of the line in back home with impressive academic competence, for some reason only known to them, either struggle or lose momentum ኣብ ስደት.

            I have come to know quite a lot of Eritrean Ph.Ds over the years and what I found to be interesting is that a huge part of them are not Asmarinos. Most are either were born in the country-sides or were born there. As we used to say, ተረዘቕ ፋራ፣ ሓርግ ኣዝማሪኖ! How true!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dr Paulos,

            Very true. Those who are raised in the rural areas have nothing to lose except to gain, if they got the access to education. They don’t play with the opportunities they got. I have seen it too.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ዶተረታት

            ከምዝመስለኒ
            Sociologist approved ድያ ከይትብሉኒ
            ግን ሓንቲ ሓቶ ኣብ ምወዳእታ ኣላትኒ

            ወዲ ሃገረ-ሰብ ዝነፍዕ
            ዳየቱ ክቕይር ካብ ቅጫስ ዶልሺ ክበልዕ
            ኣብ ክንዲ ኩዳስ ብሬክ-ዳንስ ክስዕስዕ
            ኩዕሶ ጨርቂ ደርብዩ ኩዕሶ ጥልያን ክቐልዕ
            ናተይ ሉ ይጽዕር የጽንዕ
            መታን ጥዋፍ ተስፋ ክውልዕ

            ወዲ ሃገረ-ሰብ
            ደድሕሪ ፍልጠት ይስዕብ
            ምዕባለ ከርክብ
            ፍረ ጻምኡ ኣብ ቅድሚ ዓይኑ ይዕምብብ

            እታ ሕቶ
            ን ገጠር ሃገረ-ሰብ ካብ በልናዮ
            ንከተማኸ ሃገረ እንታይ ንበሎ?

            ክልተ መልሲ ኔረናኒ
            ግን ኣቋሪጸ ባህ ስለዘይበላኒ
            ሕጂ ግደፉኒ
            ጠዓሞተይ ክበልዕ
            ናብዛ ሻሂ ክኣልካ ዛባኒ
            I know I know እታ ግሪሲኒ
            ሸፈፍ ኢለ ክሓልፋ ስለትኸብረኒ
            ኣንታ ‘ታይ ገበርኩኹም ተዛርቡኒ?

          • Paulos

            Selam Professor A. Hidrat,

            You should certainly be proud of yourself for taking the road less traveled but equally it breaks one’s heart when the brainy kid with a potential could not realize it due to otherwise surmountable life’s hurdles. Wherever he is, hope he is well.

            School is not easy but in the meantime, school is not for everyone. Some of us shine in it and some of us can not stand it. But in a true and philosophical sense, everyone of us is endowed with a spark and life’s purpose becomes finding the spark either in academia, leadership or politics, arts, military, business or any kind of passion one may have.

          • Haile S.

            ሰላም ፖል፡
            ዲንቂ!
            መዓኮር ጤል ዲኻ ሎምቅነ በሊዕካ
            ግጥሚ ከም ዓኾር ዘርጠብጠብ ደሎ ዝብለካ!

  • Selamat SaliH Gahdi,

    Okay we are clear. It does not pertain to us. We will not pay it any mind. It pertains to the Faschiest. Beautiful!

    Ashera.

    JOSHUA!

    tSAtSE

  • Peace!

    Hi Salih,

    Beautiful, thank you. መወዳእታ ዘይብሉ backstabbing!!! ድሓር ካኣ መልክዕ ዘለዎ እቶም ናቱ ታቤላ ሒዞም ዘኽድዱ ክኹኑኑዎ ከለው እዩ unless there is an implicit consensus.

    ንብቕድሚትን ብድሕሪትን ዘቃልስ ሓይልን ጥዕናን ይሃብካ ጥራይ ኢና ንብል.

    Peace!