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Tunisian Model: Analogical Reasoning for Eritrea’s Democratic Transition

“We shall patiently bear the trials that fate impose on us. We shall work for others without rest” [Anton Chekhov, from his letter to Vanya,1899].

Introduction

Emerging democratic governments in the third world would certainly have to confront a legacy of poverty, illiteracy, militarization, a society with multicultural mistrusts, and underdevelopments, that are caused by incompetent or corrupted governments. Although authoritarian regimes have a number of forms, they are collectively identified by the general models of one party system, personal dictatorship, and military regimes. Hence competitive politics are understood and rejected by such regimes as an imported luxury that has neither national values nor affordable to the society they govern. Our nation “Eritrea” is a representative of these regimes.

Often, postcolonial governments are always evolved into a domination of a single party of “one party system”. They exercise power on an institutional basis, governing collegially by circulating top government positions among the influential elites within the ranks of the party; thereby undermining the potential of a healthy civil societies and the necessary institutions for democracy.

In order to make a transition to democracy, which is a daunting challenge, this author will argue in this post, that power must shift from authoritarian single party rulers to representative leaders who are sensitive to the grievances of our diverse social groups. Those “would be leaders” must chose a move to the protection of civil rights and establishments of an agreed upon mode of governments, with a greater political accountability in order to have a solid footing on the move to democracy. We have seen and heard many “national conferences” and or “consultation process” in our opposition camp to enhance the resistance force against the authoritarian regime of Asmara. Whether we call it “national conference” or a “consultation process”, it in itself is the beginning of an on going struggle towards a transitional democracy. Both scenario should be regarded as part of the broad process resulting from crises of epic proportion, in order to define and classify issues, establish accountabilities, and mobilize a broad cross-section of popular movements. So while we are in the consultation process to unite the resistance force, however it takes its shaping, citizens have the roll to influence the process of the democratic transition – the structural process and the nature of the political engagement during the process after the fall of the regime. This author has studied the Tunisian Democratic Transition government and found an analogical reasoning to our reality in order to facilitate a soft landing to our political crises. In doing so (a) I will give a general glimpse of the Tunisian transition (b) the factors that dictate to the outcome (c) the role of civic societies in the transition (d) the constitutional process (e) the formation of transitional leadership and (f) the transfer of power of the transitional leadership to the popularly elected leadership.

Lessons From The Tunisian Democratic Transition

In January 2011, a spontaneous popular Tunisian movement toppled the authoritarian regime and opened a path for democratic transition. Subsequently Tunisians have formed a “National constituent Assembly” with the task for drafting a new constitution and a Roadmap for a democratic transition. In 2014, despite all the setbacks in the process, Tunisians have ratified a new constitution paving the way for democratic elections. In October 2014, legislative elections and in November 2014, presidential elections undergo successfully. Yet the new leaders have faced with multiple of challenges, such as unemployment, internal security, and disparity of economic development among the regions. To insure steady and continuous democratic transitions, Political parties and civil societies had a significant role in influencing the priorities of the transitional process.

After three interim governments and tumultuous legal and institutional reforming process, the Tunisian people have shown us an exemplary of non-violent transitional phase from dictatorship towards democracy. The fierce debate between the secular parties and moderate Islamist party that brought anxiety and fears of new theocratic dictatorship was eventually mitigated by the role of the dynamic Tunisian civic society.

The notion of transition is often put equal on terms with transition to democracy (O’Donnell, 1986). Any transition in the absence of transformation will let the mechanism of authoritarian regimes to stay in power in different shape or form. Hence forth, “a transitional process should bring the transformation from political singularism to political pluralism that includes re-structural change to generate political, economic, cultural, and social transformation”. The Tunisian political parties and civil societies have managed those daunting challenge masterfully and that is why their democratic transition is often cited as the peaceful democratic transition by the international fora.

During the transitional process, the former ruling party “Rally for constitutional Democracy (RCD)” has been dissolved and its fund also liquidated. The interim government formed a committee that could advise on the political and legal reforms to investigate human right violations in the last two decades or more.

Tunisians had embarked on a complex reformation process under the leadership of “consultative bodies” composed of “independent technocrats”. The New Tunisian civil societies characterized by their fast moving, have influenced immensely on the institutional change by creating new institutionalized frameworks for full public participation.  The new institutional change tackled “the twin tolerance” (a) tolerance of religious citizen towards the state and its laws (b) tolerance of the state and its laws towards religious citizens to express their values within civil society. The new decree law on associations eliminated the barriers that hinder civic society to act as intermediary between the state and the private sectors.

The Tunisian Civil societies with “new spirit of solidarity”, create new norms of engagement to form the “Tunisian National Dialogue Quartet” in the summer of 2013.  The national dialogue comprises (a) Tunisian general labor union (b) Tunisian confederation of industry (c) Tunisian human rights league (d) Tunisian order of lawyers.  On Sept. 17, 2013 the four civic organizations drafted an agreement that will work as a Roadmap for transition. The drafted Roadmap contains (a) resignation of the government and replacing by “independent technocratic government” (b) fixed dates for parliamentary and presidential elections (c) Preserving national identity in the new constitution (d) the steps necessary for the transition to a democratic government. Under the aegis and important role of the quartet, the Tunisians navigated a successful democratic transition, one of the rare peaceful democratic transition. Now the question will be, does the Eritrean reality could have such conducive environment for a peaceful democratic transition? This author will argue Yes, and will try to show the possibilities.

The Emergency of New Eritrean Civic Societies

 All the Eritrean civic societies are new, strictly in their infant stages, organizing and maturing to do their civic duties. The emergency of Eritrean civic societies in the diaspora is so important in the formation of the state, being as one pillar of the political structure of the state of Eritrea. The role of Eritrean civic societies at this juncture is therefore (a) as the drivers for democratization, will advocate for freedom of associations and institutional reforms for civic activities and duties on the one hand, and will advocate for the establishment of a constitutional democratic governance on the other (b) act as a bridge (intermediary role) in building the relationship between the state and the society at large (c) as agents for public dialogue, will facilitate a broad and inclusive democratic transition, akin to that of the Tunisian democratic transitional process.

Unfortunately, there are no civic societies as such inside Eritrea so to speak, to organize and engage in the responsibilities of civic duties; and there are no open oppositions inside Eritrea against the regime currently ruling the “state of Eritrea” to bring the necessary change. All the opposing political organizations and civic societies are in the diaspora. These political organizations have deep mistrusts among themselves and could not resolve their differences by themselves without intermediary actors. I believe therefore, that the Eritrean civic societies could play the intermediary role in drafting a roadmap that bring all the oppositions who exist inside and outside Eritrea to establish a transitional democratic governance that end the existing dictatorial regime. The only hope for an exit strategy from the current predicament of our nation is strictly shouldered on our “civic societies” and strong engagement of “our youth” to prepare themselves and take the stock of our nation.

A Call For The Eritrean Civic Societies

History is compelling the Eritrean civic societies to prepare, engage, and build solidarities in order to save the “state of Eritrea” while the dictator is ready to take it down with its demise. I will call for a few significant Eritrean civic societies, that have a true nature of civic characteristics, to build a solidarity, akin to that of the “Tunisian national dialogue quartet” – to prepare and draft “a roadmap” on the scene and behind the scene to save the state of Eritrea from being “a failed state.” The challenge is enormous and an uphill to climb with all the possible resistances from the organized political organizations.

So far the following civic organizations are visible in their civic engagements and are candidates to the call I am making (a) The Eritrean Law Society (ELS) (b) The Eritrean Global Solidarity (EGS) (c) Eritreans Facilitating for National dialogue (EFND) (d) The Eritrean lowland league (ELL) (e) The Eritrean Movement for Democracy and Human Right (EMDHR) (f) Network of Eritrean women (NEW). These Six civic societies have the know how and the maturity to take the responsibilities upfront with full commitment to the task of bridging the political differences and facilitate the Eritrean democratic transition.

The Eritrean transition may consist of different contradictory process and multi-faceted dynamics that might tear the society apart. It requires wisdom, tolerance, and fair minded civic organizations to avoid such negative outcome. In order to achieve a milestone on establishing a peaceful democratic transitioning, these civic organizations must consider the following crucial points as part of the integral thinking process for the transition (a) the need of independent technocratic leadership for the transitional period (b) The need of legal advisory committee for the provisional leadership (c) The need of legitimate transitional national assembly during the transitional period (d) The need of “constitutional commission” to draft or revise the existing shelved constitutional document during the transitional period (e) The need of a committee for drafting the election law (f) The need of giving ample of time (possibly two years) for the process to evolve and mature, and the parties to organize and prepare for the healthy democratic competition (g) the need of fixed dates for all the stages of the process, and as well as for transferring power from the provisional government to a popularly elected government.

As a starter these civic organizations could take the “internal-working memorandum” of EFND as a platform in their consultation process to build a consensus of solidarity for the task of democratic transitional process. Time is of the essence to tackle this noble national project to save “our state” and emancipate our people from the shackles of the dictatorship.

While I am appreciative and grateful to the spontaneous mass movement organized in different shape or form all over the world, there will not be a feasible formation of leadership through these amalgamated entities built in by members of political organizations (as individual) and independent citizens. Reason: (a) Because the individual members of the political organizations will have always conflict of interest on the process and the strategy of the mass movement. The experience of EGS could be mentioned as an example before it changes the membership requirement in 2011. (b) The leadership that form from this global representation in the diaspora can not be a transitional leadership that come out from these amorphous spontaneous public movements that might have not technocratic skills (c) The movement by its nature does not have organized civic characteristics with specific civic duties (d) such movement can only be the driving force for the change needed, but in itself can not lead the change. Therefore, there is no alternative than the solidarity and networks of the aforementioned civic organizations to tackle and chart the roadmap that bring all the political organizations and civic organizations in particular and the Eritrean public at large in general, as a facilitating agents for the democratic transition of our nation.

Why Talk of Transition Are Needed Ahead of Time?

Two weeks ago EFND warned us about the daunting challenge to save the Eritrean state. Indeed, they have highlighted their message warning us, that with the demise of the dictator, there will be the possibilities of the “collapse of the state and government” leading to a power vacuum in our nation. They have alluded also that “Statelessness can be even more denigrating to a population than an oppressive rule by a dictator.” What could be more frightening than being a statelessness?

EFND’s remarkable farsightedness, to prepare ourselves and do something ahead, before we are stricken with the devil’s plot to take us down with his demise, must be welcomed. It is high time then to think about the democratic transition and challenge the difficulties early on by bridging our differences and channeling all grievances to be resolved through democratic dialogue.

This author is heeding to the challenge and responding to the EFND’s call, thereby channeling the call back to all civic societies to meet the historical challenge, to show “the spirit of solidarity” like that of the Tunisian quartet, and chart out a roadmap for transition before the “Eritrean state” collapse in front of our eyes. EFND or EGS should take the initiative to outreach the aforementioned civic societies to begin a consultative discussion on the issue, and make a collective preparation with the other sister civic organizations. Let us begin the new journey to save the state of Eritrea and the Eritrean people from the clouds of confusion and disintegrations. The know how is there, if it is enhanced with vigor commitment.

 

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  • Abraham Hanibal

    Dear Horizon,

    The erratic policies of Isayas are not only endangering the security of Eritrea, but they also have a far-reaching effect on Eritrea’s neighbors. Ethiopia has all reason to feel insecure by the moves of the dictator who has the “full authority” to pursue any policy with impunity. He has neutralised the Eritrean people to such a level that they cannot resist even if they would be shipped overseas to fight others’ wars.
    On Assab:
    I think Ethiopia has the military might to capture the sea port by force; but that will be at the cost of adding fuel to the already volatile region, in addition to re-igniting the Ethio-Eri war.
    There are many interesting issues that Mr. Cohen raised regarding the normalization of relations between Eritrea and Ethiopia, though some of his viewpoints contradict Eritrea’s sovereignty when he suggests that Ethiopia and Eritrea would jointly exploit the resources of the Red Sea.

  • Hayat Adem

    Dearest Abraham,
    Isaias always DID or DIDN’T do a lot of crazy stuff that had nothing to do with any sensibilties of strategic national interests or political principles
    He supported the war against Sadam and enlisted himself as a voluntary party to the then Coalition of the Willing States.
    Isaias opened war on Yemen over the Hanish Islands and lost it on the table.
    Isaias opened war on Eritrea’s best friend then, Ethiopia, over nothing (egoistic adventurism), and he let lives perish and got Eritrea humuluated, and plugged Eritrea and it’s youth in to a series a misery still lingering.
    He insulted IGAD and AU and boycotted only to come back and begging for readmission.
    He supported UIC and alShebab over his desperate feelings to get back at Woyane and brought isolation and sanction on Eritrea.
    And when all time friend Gaddafi was troubled, he didn’t utter a word of support. He had been supporting the Houthis before he started supporting the otherside. He was begging for America to come to Assab before he started shouting at them when they declined to accept his offer. He declared it to Jane of Aljzra that Eritrea was not for sale before he sold it to the GCCs. He asked, that is not even right, he paid Cohen to lobby for him and came back on TV to despise him saying Eritrea never was in a cold.
    Isaias is the weirdest wurdetegna man to have presided over a nation of one of the humblest people on earth.
    Hayat

    • PTS

      Hayat,
      When Ghadafi was under sanction it was Isaias who paid visit, one of the unwise early moves that put Eritrea in collusion course against the West. When Ghadafi visited Eritrea not too long ago before his demise, Isaias ordered the state media to make a big fanfare about it. When Ghadafi was killed, world media covered the news but Isaias muted the state media.
      When Isaias visited Mubarek, photos of the two leaders together were prominently displayed on state media. Shortly when Mubarek was overthrown, Isaias went full negative propaganda against Mubarek. Mubarec photos were shown, not the ones with Isaias months earlier but with Western leaders.
      Isaias is truly a calculating opportunist that doesn’t give a penny about principle or what he did/said yesterday. He is a wicked snake. I feel for the G-15 and all Eritreans he made disappear.

  • sara

    Mr horizon
    i know you are in this website 24/7 pls-respect yourself, i am not sure in English if that is the right word to say in-such instances, in Arabic we say ehterm nefsek when some one acts/says to you i know what is good for you better than you because you are
    xxxxx.

    • Dear sara,
      Your Saudi friends could be no more foolish than they really are. First, by intervening in the Yemeni conflict as if they are the military super-power of the region, although they knew very well that they could not fight and win the war themselves, Second, trying to internationalize a small regional conflict by forming a broad coalition, thus looking for naïve Muslim leaders. To their big disappointment, it seems that there aren’t any naive rulers, because no Muslim country has yet to commit itself. Thirdly, infuriating Iran and the Shia population by chopping the head of a Shia clerk, for criticizing the royal family. Yemen is going to be overrun by Shia fighters coming from all direction and most probably Sunnis would do the same, and a fire would rage in the region. Therefore, nobody could be more foolish than those who own Saudi Arabia.

      Another foolish part in this equation is DIA, for sending Eritreans to fight in a Sunni-Shia war. Eritreans would most probably be forced to face not only Houthis, but also Shias Muslim fighters who have come from all corners of the Middle East and the Gulf region. Tell me just one reason, why Eritrea should be part of this mess. Petrodollars for the dictator and some oil are not reason enough to sacrifice a country and its people.

  • sara

    Dear Abraham
    Eritrea didn’t join the Saudi led “Arab coalition” against or the Yemen war -Eritrea only supported a Saudi organized or led ISLAMIC COALITION against terrorism etc

    • saay7

      Hi Sara:

      Happy New Year!

      According to Saudi Arabia, the Houthis are “terrorists”:

      http://www.yementimes.com/en/1763/news/3590/Saudi-Arabia-blacklists-Yemeni-groups.htm

      Actually, according to Saudi Arabias anti terrorism law, atheists are terrorists. Women who drive cars are terrorists.

      (Link available upon request.)

      According to the statement issued by the Gov of Eritrea, Isaias has committed our country (without debate, without vote) to support the Saudi coalition against terrorism “without reservation.”

      So, is it really a stretch to say that Isaias has taken sides in the Yemeni civil war, on the side of Saudi Arabia?

      saay

      • sara

        Dear khali- saleh
        happy new year to you too!
        maybe you are right about the Saudi current interpretation of “terrorism” but
        as for Eritrea joining the coalition etc , i was only stating what is publicly declared by the Saudi Arabian government, not an interpretation or analysis i read from any
        of the papers in the region.

        • saay7

          Hala ya bint ukhti Sara:

          You can make your own interpretation: you are just as smart as the analysts:

          1. Saudi Arabia has a very broad definition of “terrorism”;
          2. The government of Eritrea issued a press release that it would support the Saudi coalition against “terrorism and lawlessness” and that it would do so “without reservation”
          3. There is a billboard in Aden, Yemen now thanking “Eritrea” for its help;
          4. Some of the largest Muslim countries–Algeria, Malaysia, Turkey–refused to be part of the “Saudi coalition against terror.”

          http://shabait.com/news/local-news/20941-press-statement

          You do the math.

          saay

        • tes

          Dear sara,

          Since you seem so innocent let me share this withe you.

          http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/saudi-arabias-executions-were-worthy-of-isis-so-will-david-cameron-and-the-west-now-stop-their-a6794046.html

          Saudi Arabia is not fighting terrorism (global definition) but what the state calls it “terrorists” as saay7 put it. Well DIA is for business there. What can he do after Gadafi is not there. At least they can get fuel easily and run the state that they have themselves sanctioned from the world oil market.

          tes

      • Peace!

        Dear Saay,

        No that I support the Saudis or DIA but almost every western country use terrorism as a pretext to advance their interests. The best example is not too long ago Nelson Mandela was a terrorist and Osama Binladen was a freedom fighter.

        It is just a dangerous modern political pretext. The only difference is DIA treats Eritrea as his personal property and Eritrean lives as bargaining chip.

        At the same time given this is an international issue and the whole world is on the verge of something big, I am willing to learn what puts Eritrea on a better position, so what is our option here; staying neutral ( if that’s possible), joining the Iranians and Russians, or joining the Saudis and Amercans.

        regards

        • saay7

          Hey Peace!

          That’s a lot of words to express ambiguity:)

          The Saudis are the worse allies and we (Eritrea) joined them without a vote in their insane worldview. That’s my point. I happen to think that the Hourhis are a persecute minority who rose up and I am very sympathetic to their cause. I am willing to accept having my view rejected but there was no debate and no vote as usual. I happen to think that Saudi Arabia is responsible for almost all of what ails Islam all over the world but it’s Petro dollars won. Again.

          On an unrelated issue I have been following your assertion that because the US and Ethiopia agreed that their drone activity is over and out that that means a strategic realignment of US foreign policy. You are so wrong Peace my brother and I can’t prove it: wait for the big announcement of an even bigger Drone capital in the Ogaden region. You were tricked by that “going out of business” sign that your neighborhood yogurt shop places only to have a gigantic presence in the Giant Mall. That’s what happening in Ethiopia. I wish you guys with your”weyane abqiu Iyu” announcements you have been making since the 2005 elections (10 years for Gods sake) would take a pause and say “gee, what if I am wrong?” Ethiopia was is will be the “Christian island” for the west. It’s its only brand and it markets it real well.

          saay

          • AOsman

            Dear SAAY,

            On your clip: Don’t be surprised, the Saudi government knows how to use the clerics very well. You think the “zenegese negusna, zebereqet tsehayna” saying applies only west of the Red Sea. It is a way of the getting the public to support their adventure, next it will keep them busy in prayers.

            Regards

            AOsman

          • Abraham Hanibal

            Selam Saay,

            I think the Saudis have opened the pandora’s box by envading Yemen and fighting against the Houthis. They seem to think war is a game; but I’m sure this war will consume the Saudi kingdom. They may have the military hardware superiority thanks to their petrodollars, but they cannot dislodge the Houthis from their territory in North Yemen, which happens to be a very rugged terrain and hence suitable to wage a never ending guerrilla warfare. Add to this the wider involvement of Iran, Hizbollah, and other Shias, the Saudis are really playing with fire. The UAE has already withdrawn from the battlefield in Yemen, after suffering heavy losses.

          • Music Novice

            Greetings saay,

            Let us wade into a taboo area i.e. religion.

            You said: “I happen to think that Saudi Arabia is responsible for almost all of what ails Islam all over the world …”

            In what way? Do they or don’t they follow scripture strictly?

            You also said: “Ethiopia was is will be the “Christian island” for the west.”

            But the West have abandoned Christianity almost 40 years ago.

          • saay7

            Hey MN:

            Let’s put a pin on it and discuss it some other time because the Awate field cannot accomodate two discussions of religion, culture, history without having a total meltdown:)

            saay

          • Fnote Selam

            Saay,

            Considering all options, I think gov made the right decision to side with the Saudis (in terms of political support and providing temporary base in assab. Rumors about 30/50 year lease are really unfounded. Also, I would be very surprised if IA offers any soldiers to fight in Yemen). The reasons for siding with the Saudi is not because of what Saudi is and what it offers, but the alternatives (siding with houthi/iran or staying neutral) would mean invitation for more sanctions and possibly confrontation….It is interesting to see that many people in Eri opp camp and ethios who worked very hard to magnify every rumor about eri training and supporting houthi via iran are contradicting themselves in opining about eri siding with saudi….

            FS

  • Amanuel

    Hi tes, Nitricc and Peace
    I believe that you are first Eritreans. Amanuel H raised very important and timely issued. He also put forward his solution. However you keep discussing a secondary issue ( in my opinion Ethiopian is a secondary issue to Eritreans). BTW you have every right to discuss what’s ever issue you wanted, however as fellow Eritrean I can’t help but ask.

    • tes

      Dear Aamanuel,

      First of all I would like to say that there is no first Eritrean or second Eritrean. Every Eritrean, whether black or white, fighter or non-fighter, justice seeker or non justice seeker, mention what ever + or – exists, an Eritrean is an Eritrean. I strongly therefore reject your classification. In fact my first fight is to abolish such classification system.

      As you know PFDJ has introduced the “Warsay-Yikealo” -Master/god – Slave/servant relationship. This is the worst cast system run under the PFDJ Dive and Rule policy.

      I know you are saying for a good intention but its political implication and impact is very disastrous. Therefore avoid such types of categorization.

      Coming to the main point:

      The points raised by Aamanuel Hidrat are not new to the forumers. In fact there are moves in that effect. I think Medrek’s effort to bring all political organizations in one table is some of its kind but focuses on political forces unlike what Amanuel Hidrat is advocating for, the Civic Societies.

      The question Amanuel Hidrat could have asked before proposing such model is “Why the Civic Societies he is activiely working with so far are failing to advance one proposal?”

      Amanuel Hidrat (if I am wrong it is my ignorance) belongs to EGS. But then he worked with EFND during their first meetings (I do not know where he is now). Was he as EGS member that he participated in the EFND meetings or he thought that EFND could be a better umbrella?

      If his answer is “YES” to the later question then this is the biggest problem. These days it is becoming a fashion to join any newly formed organization while almost ignoring the previous one.

      Dear Amanuel, ideas/principles do not die. I understand that there is no major difference between EGS’s and EFND’s and many Civic Organizations as they all are looking for justice in Eritrea. The major problem is personal grimes within each organization established.

      I am following on FB for what happend to PEN Eritrea. It is not disappointing but it gives us an important picture on why each organization is dying internally while still they have a strong objectives, missions and visions.

      Therefore what Amanuel Hidrat has proposed here is not something that is not impractical but what is needed is coming strong as a united force.

      I will not give many excuses if Tunisia and Eritrea are in different landscape. As Eritreans we have our own quality and these quality is not used so far wisely though tried emotionally.

      Wisdom is needed.

      I will recall what haile TG once was advocating, “Mind-Heart Strategy”. We need to bring our heart and mind together.

      tes

      • Amanuel

        Hi tes
        Please don’t get me wrong what I meant by Eritreans first is before you become Africans. We can say we are Eritreans first then we can say East Africans, then Africans. I hope it is clear now.
        Again my question was why are you guys discussing Ethiopia which I think is a secondary issue for Eritreans?

        • tes

          Dear Amanuel,

          In fact most of the time I try to remind to mind their mind and concentrate on the Eritrean issue. I don’t know how you are reading my but my call to Ted and Peace!(forget Nitricc the Robot now) is to use their energy on Eritrean issue.

          I have constantly stated that I am not interested at all on the Ethiopian internal politics though I always wish peace and development to blossom there.

          In this thread for example I intervened and reflected in response to Horizon and at the same time I mentioned that I have appetite to Ethiopian politics.

          Therefore your call to me is not well directed. I am already aware of not wasting my energy on issues of none of my business.

          tes

          • Amanuel

            Hi tes
            First for the sake of new year be humble and acknowledge that you have misinterpreted my sentence above and gave me unwarranted advice.

            Second please admit that you were discussing Ethiopia full on not only with Horizon but also with Peace and Nitricc. Having said that I must admit it is easy to get carried away some times.

          • tes

            Dear Amanuel,

            First I could say “I misunderstood you”. Thank you for your friendly correction. I take it back.

            On the second point you re-read my points. My intervention was mainly to redirect the energy wasted on Ethiopian issue by Peace! and Ted mainly. I was not carried out but rather I was making a call.

            tes

  • V.F.

    Hi Abraham, it’s a well known fact that IA has nothing but absolute contempt for the Eritrean people, more so for his ardent followers. He is running a predatory state. He is not accountable to anyone or anything for that matter. Joining this coalition led by Saidi Arabia is not on its sacred mission nor to benefit the Eritrean people but to extract a couple hundred million dollars and add a lifeline for his numbered days.

  • Nitricc

    Hi PTS; you can call PIA everything you want; but fool? No! I mean if you want used the word “fool” you better look to your south and learn the definition of fool leaders. true, PIA makes a bone head moves at times and there are times you say to yourself what in god’s name is the president doing. for example; what is the point holding G-15 in prison? I mean they present no danger to his government not the country. the same goes to the Journalists and everyone who is in prison; give them their day in court or set them free. anyway; PIA is doing a couple of good moves away from being the best president in Africa. in some instances, he might be already the best one with his all shortcomings.
    I think this interview will be a different one. PIA has turned the corner and he feels more secure, in control and at peace with himself. TPLF are in deep frying pan; the US is looking away; Saudi Arabia and rich Arab countries are showering him with Billions; our ports about starring to make money.
    so, i think we will hear a different interview than the usual once we are accostomed to.
    I had predicted that PIA will let G-15 and making some positive moves and since 2015 is gooooon; here i am to acknowledge that my toothless prediction was just that toothless.

    • tes

      Hi Nitricc,

      Haha, naïve and toothless predictor. As usual you will fail but your failure will be now more toothless.

      tes

  • Peace!

    Solomon,

    Ere Men Nekah Wndmei…I don’t know what’s your definition of injustice, but since you don’t seem to have a problem with government killing peaceful protestors you must be an opportunistic. keep in mind regardless what foreign individual say, think, or even wish, practically speaking that’s not relevant. You need to pause and ask yourself a simple question why Ethiopians are protesting, and plus don’t get confused the Ethiopians we have here are not pro democracy activists they are DERG leftovers who are blindly obsessed with ASAB and MASSAWA. Who knows they could be criminals too.

    regards

  • Peace!

    Dear All,

    Breaking News: US abandons its drone base in Ethiopia, and urging TPLF government to release journalists. Amb. Cohen also advises to the authoritarian TPLF regime “With decentralized power, the requirement for the Ethiopian government to kill citizens in order to remain in power at the Federal level would disappear.” Is US predicts the fall of Weyane?
    In the mean time the protest is now expanding to west Harage, Ambo and Dilla university professors and students are abandoning campus as the death toll reaches at least 5, the main road connecting Addis Ababa with Eastern Region ( Harar, Dire Dawa, Jigjiga) has been closed at various villages near Hirna, and TPLF soldiers roaming through villages in Baddano district ( E Hararge) terrorizing farmers.

    regards

    • አዲስ

      Hi Peace,

      You said: “US abandons its drone base in Ethiopia, and urging TPLF government to release journalists.”

      You make it sound like there’s a connection between the drone base abandonment and U.S’s usual and useless “deeply concerned” statements. Is that really your indication of trouble to EPRDF ?

      Thanks,
      Addis

      • Peace!

        Selam Addis,

        According to various media outlets the reason is its presence is no longer necessary, and that coupled with its recent call for Djibouti government to release the opposition figure shows there is a strategic policy shift in the region.

        regards

        • አዲስ

          Peace,

          I think that’s a stretch. EPRDF’s government is still an indisputable ally for the U.S. in that region. What does a call for Djibouti government to release opposition figures indicate anyway? U.S. is well known for making these calls to their allies and doing nothing substantial to impact real change. It’s like a copy paste statement but only changing the country’s name.

          If there’s a strategic policy shift as you say there’s, where’s it shifting to?

          Thanks,
          Addis

          • Peace!

            Selam Addis,

            I wish I know the answer for your question. The world is no longer in a cold war era that the US can no longer seat and watch as the Chinese building huge base in Djibouti and making its way to expand onto the continent.

            regards

          • አዲስ

            Peace,

            Well I don’t think the U.S. is seating and watching Chinese influence especially in Djibouti. They were already there way before Chinese thought of negotiating with Djibouti to establish a base, which it still is yet to do. If anything worries U.S. in my opinion, it’s Chinese government’s close relationship with that of EPRDF. That looked like what prompted Obama’s recent visit to Ethiopia among other things.

            Thanks,
            Addis

    • Nitricc

      Hi Peace; the news is not breaking one, well i guess it is but the program and the base has been dismantled for a while now. I feel so bad for the Ethiopians i am starting to feel their pain. -The People’s pain-

      here is what this freaking good for nothing Indian harassing the Ethiopians on their own land.

      ” The bilateral investment protection agreement between India and Ethiopia protects me. Touch me, then you will see the power of India. This is a threat because enough is enough. I don’t have to defend myself. I challenge [any official of the Ministry of Agriculture and Natural Resources] to touch my land. Then they will face the consequences in the international court of justice”

      “Touch my land?” what a shame!
      what is even mind bugling is that this worthless Indian didn’t even pay the loan the stupid TPLF leaders gave to rob their land. in eight years this worthless indian company only developed 1.2 % of the land meaning 98.8 land that was given are barren. simply the Indians rob the people of Ethiopia in a broad day light.
      if that us not enough; you have the Egyptian leader telling his people never to worry about Ethiopia. really Mr SiSi? you know it is god given Ethiopia’s water and Ethiopia have every right to whatever it want.
      Ethiopia is screaming for a leader. the cross eyed so called leader is good at harassing Eritrea and killing his own people.

      • አዲስ

        Deeply concerned for Ethiopians Nitricc,

        There’s a report that Karuturi’s land lease contract has been canceled by the government after he made that threat.

        Obviously they don’t seem to be afraid of his threats. I think your worries are a bit misplaced as usual 🙂

        Thanks,
        Addis

        • Nitricc

          Hi Adis; do you think my concernes are misplaced? well, here is what i am reading in to the arrogance of the Egypt. From their own admission they have said they are “watching Ethiopia 24/7 through satellite and they are monitoring the work progress on the construction site. first the Ethiopian government should have come out protest at the arrogance of Egypt. no country will declare arrogantly that they are spying at another country. but your coward leaders no where to be heard or seen. and now, just this week the Egyptian leader told his people; chill out, no problem. really? why not agitate the people and make them aware with what is going on? if the Ethiopian leaders had a shared of thinking cell;this situation, with EGYPT can calm down with what is going on internally in Ethiopia. people are united by such events. why not blast this kind of music all over the country and let the Egyptian know what the Ethiopian people up to are. why not

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHzIN29_k6k

          • Solomon

            Hi Nitricc

            What is there to watch in Guba by satellite. The construction of the dam is going on 24/7 and it has reached now more than 50%. You can even see it in google maps.

            “The coward leaders of Ethiopia’ are doing their job silently. They know what they have to do and they are doing it silently. Boasting and bragging is only for local consumption and that is what the Egyptian leaders doing. You know we have that kind of leader before who threatened even America.The Ethiopian gov. foreign diplomacy now is way ahead than their Egyptian counterparts specially regarding the GERD. The Egyptians are flip flopping while Ethiopia is consistent.

            You have to give credit to the Ethiopian gov. for not using this for internal politics not vice-versa.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Solomon; I know you are tying to burry your head on the sand but let me tell you what the leader of Egypt is sdaying.
            “They want to live as we want to live”
            President of Egypt; El-SiSi.
            Translation; If we don’t live they won’t live!
            “I won’t lead you astray now”
            Further Translation; if they mess with flow of the water; I will solve it militarily.

          • Solomon

            Hi Nitricc,

            First of all Ethiopia has said time and again the Dam will not harm Egypt significantly let alone make them thirsty so he doesn’t have a case there.

            Secondly to solve it militarily, I think you know better than me it is nearly impossible due to military and diplomatic complexity. So it is empty bravado.

            The late PMMZ has said at the beginning of the project, the probability of military action by Egypt is may be 5% and we are prepared for that.

      • Peace!

        General Nitric,

        As the good professor Mesfin said TPLF learns always after the fact. The ethnic politics to loot Ethiopia is morally dubious and politically unacceptable, and TPLF government must heed to the people’s demand that it must stop killing peaceful protestors, stop the illegal land grabbing, release Journalists (terrorists), and stop terrorizing farmers.

        Did you see Eritrean soccer players standing in solidarity with Oromo students and farmers? priceless!

        regards

    • tes

      Dear Peace!

      This is just a good news for you as an Amiche who was froced to be deported from Ethiopia but the best news to Ethiopia and Ethiopians to be FREE from drones* which have no business at all with Ethiopian strategic interest.

      tes

      *Let it be as you are saying

      • Peace!

        tes may man!

        Just a reminder: all deportees are not necessarily amiche. I was born and raised in Asmara tsa’eda.

        peace!

        • tes

          Dear Peace!

          In fact those who were born and raised in Ethiopia will not prefer to be called as amiche rather as Eritreans. Those who prefer to be called as said are like yours; Worse those who were born and raised in Asmara/Eritrea are those who thought Ethiopia was a heaven and when the EPRDF regime deported them they still believe that they were chased from their dream land heaven.

          And now they still wish that the EPRDF regime should go and then leave them free to be returned. I do not know why these mindset is still present even after 18 yrs of living in the outside Ethiopia.

          tes

    • V.F.

      Where is your source of information? Why do you not work to bring change for your own people, as a proud Amiche Eritrean, than always wishing ill things to other people that you seem to not care about? For me, the worst day would be if dictator and blood sucker Isaias Afwerki outlives the hegemony of EPRDF and TPLF. That seems like his ultimate goal of his remaining very short life.

      • Peace!

        V.F.

        What?? “always wishing ill things to other people” How did you come up with that conclusion? I think you need to be careful with your words.

  • አዲስ

    Solomon,

    I am quite aware of the status of my country but at least you and I or anybody should agree that if somebody protests anything as peaceful as raising one’s hand, then at the minimum they shouldn’t get arrested. As simple as that. You don’t have to be the richest or the most democratic country in the world to expect that from your government. How is this not a big deal even your most peaceful expression get you to the notorious jails of the country?

    You said: “Why these people were arrested I think as I explained before the situation was getting out of hand so officials will get nervous and they will arrest a lot of people”.

    Really raising your hands made the situation “getting out of hand”?

    I understand your wish for peace and stability. There’s no sane person in their right mind who wish their country to do great that wouldn’t want that. As you believe the country is developing and doing great, there is a significant portion of the country who believe otherwise. That portion of the country feels repressed, their children sent to jail, their land taken…. and many more grievances. If this portion of the country doesn’t feel being heard and whenever they are raising their questions is met with at the very best with “keep quiet we are developing” and the worst getting killed left and right, chaos will ensue.

    Nobody expects Ethiopia to be the beacon of democracy right away but the approach this government is taking clearly is alienating a significant portion of the country. If you really follow this situation this is not the first time a protest erupted about the AA master plan. There was one a year ago too. How did the government chose to address that? we all know how. You said this is not a pressing issue for Oromo people, but they say it’s. They say it represents a lot of injustice by this government against them and thinking this protest is only about a master plan is very simplistic.

    So Solomon please don’t follow EPRDF’s line of thinking which goes like this: when asked about the drought, they answer hey there’s a drought in California too. As if Californians are worried about what they are going to eat. When asked about protesters getting arrested they answer hey there are protesters who get arrested in the U.S. too.

    Let’s not wait until the problem is knocking our doors. Let’s at least agree that peacefully protesting and expressing your disagreement shouldn’t lead you to jail and if it does it shouldn’t be treated as a not big deal. If we can’t agree on that, how can we actually move on with all the problems facing our country?

    Thanks,
    Addis

    p.s. re-posting at the right place

    • Solomon

      Hi Adiss,
      I don’t mean because of them raising their hands things get out of hand but at the time they took the picture and post it in the social media the situation was getting out of control and anything that aggravate the situation will make the officials nervous. you are right no body should be arrested for protesting peacefully but the situation was not peaceful. At least you have to admit the whole Oromia except A/A was at stand still. What was the government to do? Just watch until the protest dies by itself. I would say it had to do what ever it can except killing people. You asked how the gov. addressed the A/A master plan when it was an issue one year ago. They shelved it. We haven’t heard about it until the protest erupted few days ago. Even now when the demonstration begun various gov. officials up to the Prime Minister told the public it will not be implemented untill there is permission from the Oromia people. You said “They say it represents a lot of injustice by this government against them and thinking this protest is only about a master plan is very simplistic.” I don’t believe the Oromo people are marginalized, oppressed or left behind more than the other Ethiopians. But due to the significance of Oromia i think there are a lot of issues to be solved wisely so the gov. must give special attention.There is no Ethiopia with out Oromia. I don’t think there is a significant portion of our society that believes the country is not developing. because every infrastructure is coming to their doorstep even to the people who live in remote areas of the country. Still there is a lot to be done and the surest way to achieve that is by focusing on peace and development.But there are a lot people who doesn’t see and doesn’t care about the development that is taken place except removing the gov. by any means possible. You said “Let’s not wait until the problem is knocking our doors.” It is already knocking in my door. That is why i am advocating for peace. After two days i will go to celebrate Gena all the way to Finfine crossing Mendi, Nejo, Ghinbi, Nekemte, Bako, Ghedo, Ambo, Wolonkomi, Holeta and all small towns b/n them and i have no guarantee i will see my family.

      Nagaatti Adiss,

      Solomon

  • Nitricc

    Hi Solomon; I read your post and it left me with impression that you are telling commonsense while bending the truth. first of all it is imperative you understand the root cause of this matter; for you to ignore the matter as an act of few outlaws who are burning cars and closing roads is just insulting your readers intelligent.

    the truth and the root cause is told as follow..

    “Addis Ababa became a spot on which the interest of the three major powers in the country, the Oromo, Amhara and Tigray converged upon and clashed. The city became economically and politically Tigray elite dominated, and remained demographically and culturally Amhara, and historically and territorially Oromo. The uneasy relationship between the EPRDF and the Oromo interest as regards the status of Addis Ababa became evident as early as during the drafting of the Ethiopian Constitution. It was to resolve the differences that a compromise was reached in the constitution itself. The difference was “resolved” by making Addis Ababa the federal capital with the recognition of Oromia’s special interest due to Addis Ababa’s location in Oromia. It should be noted that the constitution does not say anything about Addis Ababa being also the capital of Oromia. This was incorporated into Oromia’s constitution. Thus, with this arrangement, Addis Ababa became a dual capital of both the federal government and Oromia.

    After the TPLF became more settled and confident, it tried to change this arrangement that it never liked in the first place. Thus, in 2000, the EPRDF government passed a resolution to move the Oromia capital from Addis Ababa to Adama. And with this begun the first direct confrontation between EPRDF and the Oromo population on the question of the relationship between Addis Ababa and Oromia. The Oromo population totally opposed EPRDF’s mischievous and back stabbing move, and as now, then also the Oromo students spearheaded the opposition and staged demonstrations in many parts of Oromia.”””

    • Solomon

      Hi Nitricc,

      Thank you for trying to understand me but I am not trying to bend the truth. As i said in another thread before the Oromia issue is complicated. The gov. must give special attention and try to solve the problem for the sake of the country. But i don’t believe the gov. wants to back stab, to swindle or what ever the Oromo people. There may be some mistakes made and there are a lot of conflict of advantages. but the way forward is through peaceful negotiation and dialog.

      “The city became economically and politically Tigray elite dominated,” This is the usual propaganda to alienate Tigray people from the Ethiopian people. There are rich and poor Tegaru in A/A like any other Oromos or Amaras etc
      .
      “and remained demographically and culturally Amhara,” A/A has been and is the home of all Ethiopian people from all walks of life and nothing has been changed. Who ever comes to A/A will be ye A/A lij. Weather you are from Wellega, Gojam, Mekele, Welkite you will be assimilated. Specially the children that was born in Adiss will speak Amharic and become ye Arada lij. This is natural. It cant be changed. If you come with your Shikorina wife to live in Adiss your children will become ye Arada lijoch not Asmarino.

      “and historically and territorially Oromo.” This is true and it is true now. Nothing changed.

  • Dis Donc

    Dear Ethiopians,
    I read that most of you, here, oppose Ethnic or nation federalization. So am I!! However, let me ask you all a question: how do you address century old grievances? Equity? Decentralization? Equal representation? Etc? Please no politics, just share how you can address these issues, without label and libel.

    • Hayat Adem

      Dear Dis Donc,
      Those are good questions and lets wait and see for Awatistas to reflect up on. But i want to take you up on what you stated. What would be your justification in opposing ethnic federalization? And I am asking in the same intonation you asked your questions, i.e., “without label and libel”.
      I will advance my thoughts around the issue of federalization and see if you think they make sense to you at all, or not. As you you know federalization happens to effect the holding of together, that is, to strike a balance of compromise for any country to secure continuity as a nation of differences and harmony (within existing system of union); 2) to come together to a new union for maximizing greater advantages (from non-existing union); 3) to effect any mix of the two (partly centrifugal, partly centripetal balancing compromises).
      On all occasions, ethnicity (which means cultural identification where linguistics seems to be the most visible identifier) can be one key consideration. For me, it sounds the most obvious and automatic start of political constituency. Depoliticizing this political constituency for the sake of broader category/identity is not necessarily wise either; it has an electoral concept called gerrymandering. Denying it proper space or depoliticizing is not the nor over promoting it are effective answers. So, ethnic federalism, by itself is not a bad formula. It is the fear and the possibility of being over politicized that is bad.
      In places where centuries of injustices and grievances have been the fact of life among social groups, such as in Ethiopia, I sincerely believe it can be a plausible formula that needs to be applied with delicate and meticulous care. Well, making it work would never be easy. Even simpler and straight political formulas are not smooth on navigating countries of complex problems such as those in Africa. But it is something curious intellectuals and policy formulators need to assess its scientific validity at depth.
      I personally believe that it is a bold political approach and commitment. All Africans need to give a keen attention to what are the excesses, inefficiencies and deficiencies of the formula, and improve up on it. Eritreans should consider it as an organic African formula before trivializing it. And it is something that is invented and practiced next door. The uprisings we see flaring up are unfortunate but are not valid evidence to prove that Ethiopian federalism is crumbling down.
      Hayat

      • Semere Andom

        Hi Hayat and Horizon:

        This debate is just like Ghedli and the Ethiopia’s help debates that flare up once in a while.

        Eritrean’s configurations may not be suited for ethnic federalism because of the tiny ethnic groups, for example in Gash, although the Kunama and Baria are the native ethnicity, the Tigrinya and Tigre are the majority and the most established and succeful and powerfull. So Ethnic federalism may not work for us, but the idea of the majority takes all will also not work, yet it is not by itself crazy as some would have us believe. For one, it so far succeeded in Ethiopia when TPLF recognized its limits and unlike the previous Ethiopian rulers who showcased Amhara culture ( Amde I know I should call it Shoa):

        Now maybe there is fatigue and EPRDF may need to refine or innovate for the next step to again meet the needs of the times in Ethiopia. The last 25 years were making sure the country does not disintegrate. Ethiopia like any African country is not organic country and was kept by force and it is a miracle that it did not fragment so far and this speaks to the validity of the federation. The the demonstration and conflict is a reflection of the embryonic freedom to assemble and demonstrate that Ethiopias are enjoying now. But freedom comes with consequences and the cleavage may widen, we cannot know for sure what is going on inside the country. Rember that any country in Afica has the propensity to fall to, if what we see inEthiopia is the tell-tell sign of that risk, we cannot be sure

        Governing Eritrea, we can create brand new that reflect our unique situation: diverse society with tiny on the verge of extinction. ELL and GLEAN and the Jeberty gatherings are things we need to consider when charting the future of the country instead of obsessing with Ethiopia, a country that is happy we separated and a country we fought to separate from.

        Removing PFDJ and then keeping the country together on the after math, studying how PFDJ is setting us for failure because Eritrea’s failure is their success, disabling YPFDJ to stop the PFDJs mutation are the things we need to obsess with now

        If the opposition does not tackle these things, neither democratic coup nor good old coup that Africa is known for, may not happen or and if they happen, may not save us. The democratic coup cannot happen by corrupted, rapists, regionalists, with have empty pride generals who surround IA now. The good old coup also is likely to happen any time soon.

        Eritreans need to think of themselves as people and humans who have the right to life and dignity, instead of the obsessing with land, mountains and rocks and the riches under the ground. Then think what we they should do to claim our inalienable right to life and dignity without limiting ourselves to Emba-Serra, Mai Tekella and ruba Ansebba. And to that end, nothing should be taboo to entertain for the sake of our right to dignity and life.

    • Dear D.D.
      Ethnic grievances have been the root-cause of Ethiopia’s problems, and it is a must-be-solved issue. No question about that. If ethnic federalism is the only solution available or not, I cannot be completely sure. Nevertheless, to oppose ethnic federalism, one should provide another better solution; and I personally do not see one. It is not possible to deny the existence of ethnic identities, feelings, cultures etc and say that there is only one Ethiopian identity that encompasses all ethnic groups. Ethiopian national identity is the sum-total of all these ethnic
      identities. Moreover, one cannot force upon our ethnic groups, for example, regional federalism, when they seem to reject it, although many say that ethnic federalism was brought by TPLF to divide and rule. One cannot be hundred percent for or against this theory. Ethiopian ethnic groups feel that regional federalism does not empower their ethnic groups, which would be divided and forced to live in two or more federal regions.

      The credit one can give to ethnic federalism in Ethiopia is that, to a certain extent, it has managed to calm the country and bring the first stage of economic development. Of course, it has not succeeded to appease those forcrs that are hell-bent to achieve a completely sovereign and unadulterated ethnic hegemonic region under their control, and they abhor the very essence of a united Ethiopia. Simply, one cannot go on forever being deaf and blind to the grievances and demands of Ethiopian ethnic groups, and at one stage a solution should be found, and that solution for Ethiopia, and for any other country where ethnic sentiment is a
      major problem, especially in Africa, ethnic federalism seems the best solution, until the time when superior ideals than ethnic feelings start to bind human beings together.

      Finally, if Ethiopian ethnic groups would regress to their ethnic shells or come out and approach and join hands with other ethnic groups, after being satisfied with the existence of their ethnic territory and their promised land and after tasting self-rule, or if they would try to implement article 39, which in practice does not seem to be an easy matter, or choose to remain dwarfs in their own ethnic enclaves or become giants together with all Ethiopian ethnic groups, time will show. This is my two-pennies-worth.

      • Hayat Adem

        Dearest Horizon,
        It feels good to see you continuing to grace this forum with no-nonsense sensibilities. I would like to ask you a question or two to reflect up on. My questions (and your,also other contributors’ expected explanations) are solely meant for myself to benefit from.
        1) I hear that TPLF devised this ethnicity-based federalism intending to impose and sustain a divide-and-rule system on Ethiopians. Do you believe such claims have validity what so ever?*
        2) I hear people saying PMHD is no PMMZ. Do you believe PMHD has less power (be it expressly stated or implied) on structurally and legislatively (leaving out style and personal differences)?**
        Hayat
        ————–
        here are my takes if you want to see my perspectives my questions stem from.
        *Let’s test the hypothesis in little world. TPLF’s constituency is Tigray. Ethnicity based federalism inevitably sets Tigray as a true minority based on demography, land or economic resources, while setting Oromia and Amahara as giant polities. Tigray is 3rd, 4th or 5th in popn size, in economy way further behind. I don’t see such a logic of ethnic federalism sustaining TPLF’s hegemony as claimed. Logic shows the opposite.
        **The power gravity in Ethiopia rests in the ruling party, and flows to the governments apparatus. PMHD completely replaces PMMZ, as chairman of the party, commander in chief of the army, and as such the buck stops with him, with all the concentrated executive powers. I don’t understand the logic of perceiving this man as a less power man, constitutionally speaking, than his predecessor.

        • Dear Hayat Adem,
          This is a very good chance for me to welcome you back. WELCOME BACK to awate.com. We missed you a lot.

          As much as the implementation of ethnicity-based federalism in Ethiopia to impose and sustain a divide-and-rule system by TPLF is concerned, as I had said earlier, it is something I cannot completely espouse to or completely deny. You know very well that the Ethiopian opposition uses this to blame TPLF. During the early years, Ethiopian federalism was discussed broadly either to support or oppose it. Ethiopian ethnicity-based federalism is reflected in the ethnicity-based Ethiopian government, the EPRDF, which is more or less, at least as much the main ethnic groups are concerned, they are partners in ruling the country, and at this very stage, most probably, they are equal partners. At the early stage it could be different. One should be at the heart of TPLF to know the whole truth about the implimentation of ethnic federalism in Ethiopia. A democratic one-man one-vote political system in Ethiopia and with ethnically-based political parties playing the show, would indeed have put TPLF in a disadvantageous position, but not a system where the government is a coalition of political parties working together. A coalition government is a bitter pill political parties should swallow when they cannot rule alone. At the early stage, in the early 1990s, TPLF was armed and strong; it had the pie and the knife and it could cut for itself any piece it liked, which it thought served its interest. If ethnicity-based federalism served its purpose, surely it would not shy to use it. The main point is, does ethnic federalism serve Ethiopia’s interest at the same time? My personal opinion is, it does.

          I do not really know the details, but it seemed that PMMZ’s government looked like more or less a one-man’s show or a few-men’s show, while PMHMD’s government, on the other hand, looks like a government where power is
          shared by deputy PMs and even the President to a certain extent. Times were/are different and the two men are not of course the same people. The one came through a libration war and the other was an ordinary civilian. Nevertheless, I do not believe that PMHMD is less powerful, but he differs in how he uses his power. Among those who accused him as powerless are people who expected him to root-out TPLF from government when he came to power. Unfortunately, the last killings look like the legacy he acquired from the past, and he has not shaken it off, and it will tarnish his rule.

        • Semere Tesfai

          Selam Hayat:

          I know your question is directed to Horizon; and I know he did answer your question probably to your satisfaction, which I strongly disagree. And this is my reason:

          (1) – You asked “Did TPLF devised ethnicity-based federalism intending to impose and sustain a divide-and-rule system on Ethiopians?” My answer: Absolutely! There is no question about it.

          (2) – Again you asked: “Does PMHD has less power than Meles Zenawi?” Again my answer: Of course he does. That’s a no-brainer. Now let me explain:

          I – Dividing Ethiopia along ethic lines

          – Dividing Ethiopia along ethnic enclaves and pitting Ethiopian ethnics against each-other is the only way the 6% Woyanes Tigreans could dominate and govern Ethiopia. And that is exactly what they are doing.

          – Instead of political competition based on ideology, dividing a country along ethnic regions, and framing national political competition along ethnic political parties – TPLF (all Tigray Party), All Amara Party, All Oromia Party…. is a curse no nationalist in this planet want to see, his/her beloved country engaging in. At least I don’t.

          II – What is power? How do you identify power in a government?

          – He who controls the Army, the Security apparatus, the top branches of judiciary institutions, the main communication apparatus and the top financial institutions (mostly in that order) is the most powerful party, ethnic, region, clan, family in any given government.

          – With these powers in its disposal, any power in a given government can crash an opponent (using the military), can listen fallow and arrest any opponent (using police and security agents), can spin shape and mold information to fit the government narrative (controlling media), can charge prosecute and convict an opponent (in its “kangaroo courts”), can bribe reward punish opponents (using financial incentives).

          And in the current set-up of Ethiopian politics, all the above privileges are beyond the reach of Amaras, Afar, Oromos and other southern/eastern/western ethnics. In Ethiopia, the only ethnic party with these privileges is the Woyane clique. And that is a fact.

          Now, based on the above reasoning, since prime minister Hailemariam Desalegn doesn’t have full influence in the Army, Intelligence/Security/police forces, higher courts, financial institutions….. with out a doubt, he is a figure head with a whole lot less power (comparing to Meles) in the current set-up of the Ethiopian Government.

          As to your “TPLF’s constituency is Tigray. Ethnicity based federalism inevitably sets Tigray as a true minority based on demography, land or economic resources, while setting Oromia and Amahara as giant polities.” logic, it is absolutely false.

          Almost all undemocratic governments in this world that are supported by the West are minority and clan/family led governments, as they are easy to bribe and easy to pressure.

          Anyway, it’s good to hear from you. Have a nice weekend.

          Semere Tesfai

          • Abi

            HI Semere Tesfai
            I approve your message!
            I am an Amhara. Eyobe is Tigre. Fatima is Oromo. Kim is Hadere. Addis is Gurage. Horizon is Hadiya. You are Somale. Hayat is Sidama.
            In 21st century Democratic Ethiopia, we can not be under the same party. How backward is it? Where my ethnicity comes before my ideology, I sense trouble in the future. What is next? Party based on gender? Religion? Height, weight, color of eyes, type of hair?
            It is stupid,stupid stupid.
            Party based on anything other than an ideology is the epitome of ignorance.
            Guys out there, please don’t try to convince me otherwise.
            The most stupid thing in the world is when one is categorized in a group based on something he can do nothing about namely ethnicity. Can I change my ethnicity? No. So why am I forced to be in a party where I didn’t choose my ethnicity?We are talking about a country. Not about equb or yeqolo mahber.
            Down with ethnicity!!!!!!

          • Shum

            Hello Abi,
            Excellent! More like this please. Ethnicity is not an achievement nor a value or principle to strive for.

          • Abi

            Hi Shum
            Thank you for the vote of confidence.

          • Hayat Adem

            The Sweet Abi,
            I want to advance more of the philosophical aspect of the issue than its functionality. Political groupies are based on something around which your personal interest revolves. It could be anything but it must rest on your free choice. As far as my limited knowledge goes, you, Eyob, Fatima, Kim, Addis, Horizon, and me can be members of EPRDF through TPLF, ANDM, OPDO, and/or SPPDF. We can as well be legally registered members of the Blue Party or/and Lidetu’s party that rejects ethnicity based membership. So, my view is EPRDF thought culture as a base of political grouping but the constitution doesn’t outlaw other ways of political groupings.Participation and politicking can only be based on either a who-ness, or what-ness or about-ness. In Ethiopia, you have all the options. In Eritrea, it is either the PFDJ or exiling to the moon. Unfortunately, Semere T. endorses the current political system in Eritrea. I believe, he must be the last person talking about democratic limitations in Ethiopia or officially declare himself as a promoter of hypocrisy as a best human value.
            Love,
            Hayat

          • Hayat Adem

            Hello Semere T.,
            Okay but you need to update yourself on few things and reflect on others
            1) The ruling party in Ethiopia is called EPRDF, aka Weyane. It has a declared political ideology called Revolutionary Democracy or Developmental Democracy. Ethnicity is not their doctrine . It is their approach. Is that not true?
            2) The army and judiciary in Ethiopia is non-partisian, at least on paper. The army has a commander in chief, which is the PM who also happens to be the boss of the Weyane party. Is that not true?
            3) I know pfdj propoganda people say a lot on the 6% issue. Most Ethiopians I talked don’t see it that way. Yes, they hate ethnicity politics for many other reasons but your concerns are not their concerns, not to the many I happened to talk to, at least.
            3) I want to engage you on one concern of yours, ethnicity politics. According to your own statement you hate ethnicity as a merit of political platform and you prefer ideology to ethnicity. But at the same time, you bring the issue of Tigreans holding a lot of power undeserving as a minority in Ethiopia almost all the time you said something about Ethiopia. Now, don’t you think that approach of thought itself is very ethnicity-driven thinking? Earlier last year, you claimed that Tigrigna is a majority in Eritrea and power share should be proportionate enough to reflect this reality. Don’t you think that too is very ethnicity-driven thinking?
            4) Coming back to the 6% thingy of Tigreans making it all the time your central point whenever commenting on Ethiopian affairs, it seems you are suggesting you would have been comfortable if Tigreans had kept their sphere of influence within their share of size, that is you would want them hold power propertoinate to their 6%. If so, don’t you think you are advocating for ethnic propertionality and not for a de-ethnized politics?
            5) Semere, how do you evaluate the performance of IA/PFDJ during the last 25yrs in power on leading and managing the nation based on a scale of 1-10, 10 being the highest?
            Thanks,
            Hayat

      • tes

        Dear Horizon,

        I believe that the Ethnic Federalism that exist in Ethiopia was designed on Marxist-Leninist Ideology of state formation. And equally I believe that there is a solution to come out from this ideology. And this is simply based on Economic states. And to create economic states the book of Socialism should be thrown away from the EPRDF shelf.

        When I see it deeply why Ethiopia is ambivalent in here political democratic process what I see is the paradoxy of the concept applied in the lines stated above.

        No appetite for Ethiopian politics but this is angle of perspective.

        tes

    • Nitricc

      Hi Dis Donc:

      you ask good political questions and want none political answer. I don’t think answers are possible with out getting in politics. it is it possible, then let me try.

      for a century old grievance; will take another century to fix. there is no quick fix. However, if there is the shortest and the quickest way of addressing those grievance then it is social justice.

      the mother of Equal representation = social justice!

      The mother of Equality = social justice!

      the mother of remedy for old grievance = social justice!

    • Kim Hanna

      Selam Dis Donc,
      .
      I am one of those that evolved from con to pro over a period of time. Experience and results do have impact.
      .
      Ethnic federalism is a bad way of arranging Ethiopian politic, except the alternatives are worse.
      .
      Show me a better one besides “Ethiopia First” slogan and I will listen to learn and accept.
      .
      Mr. K.H

      • Peace!

        Mr. K.H,

        You said “Ethnic federalism is a bad way of arranging Ethiopian politic, except the alternatives are worse” But the one that you evolved from con to pro is sinking because it turned out to be ethnic arrangement, not federal, and the experience and results you are claiming to have impact on you are also fake. Look it is extremely unusual for a government that won an election by 100% faces unprecedented uprising only few months after the election, and sad enough the life of Fifteen million Ethiopians dying of hunger cannot be replaced with building shiny high-rise apartments and resorts in Addis. No one in their right mind would say there is no better alternative to this idiotic TPLF politics unless they are consumed by hypocrisy.

        regards

        • Kim Hanna

          Selam Peace,
          .
          I am sure there is a better system. I just have not seen it yet. You didn’t shade any light either other than harping your favorite burning topic of TPLF is idiotic. If they are idiots, they are our idiots, do you mind?
          .
          Until the better system is revealed, we have to limp along to gain STRENGTH. So far it is better than the previous few hundred years of politics, don’t you agree? You used to be part of it, remember?
          .
          By the way, how are you doing?
          .
          Once strength (health care, education, roads and rail roads, dams etc, you know all the fake items) is in place and we can breath normally, we will implement and test various theories to see which one works, including the ones you might recommend for us. Unless you insist on imposing it on us, like the tail waging the dog, kind of phenomena.
          .
          Mr. K.H

          • Peace!

            Dear Mr. K. H

            Actually I was attempting to prove you wrong nothing else otherwise it is a waste of time trying to shade a light for someone who is utterly consumed by hypocrisy and blindly obsessed with his neighbor. My friend you are wasting your valuable time making lame excuses while your people are grieving for the loss of innocent people murdered by the government in a broad day light for protesting peacefully against land grabbing by the regime elites. Are you one of the elites? You better be, otherwise you need to regain your conscience.

            The excuse “ I am sure there is a better system. I just have not seen it yet” is lame and an insult to your country as if it is a laboratory for governing system.

            regards

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Peace,
            .
            Peace, Peace! PEACE!!
            .
            ehterm nefsek
            .
            Besmeab wold menfes kidus, I spoke Arabic, God please forgive me, it won’t happen again.
            .
            I can’t take you seriously. Read and re-read what I wrote and what you wrote and see if the two can be remotely be connected as an exchange.
            .
            On top of that you are telling me that I am obsessed with a NEIGHBOR, who are we talking about for Christ’s sake?
            .
            I had a perfect real life story to tell about this but I have to find another venue for it. I don’t know where you will go with it anyway, besides it has to be a little lengthy which I don’t like.
            .
            Chao.
            .
            Mr. K.H

  • አዲስ

    Hi Solomon,

    Thanks for your reply. i will try to address your points below:

    1. You said: “የህክምና ባለሙያዎቹ መከሰስ እንደ ትልቅ ነገር አንስታችሁ በአገራችን ስላለው የዲሞክራሲ ሁኔታ
    ስትገረሙ አይቼ”

    What do you think about this case was particularly troubling to us? Let me explain my reasons: It’s an indication of how low the principle of human rights and justice is in Ethiopia right now. You tried to characterize it as some Diasporas comparing their country democracy to that of western and got fed up when it’s not up to par. But that’s not the case. Forget Western democracy, do you think it’s okay to arrest and charge somebody because they held their hands high? Can’t you see the clear message here is that any disagreement with EPRDF is punishable no matter how you show it?

    You went on to dismiss their arrest by saying they will be released. As if getting arrested, going to Maekelawi and subject to those harsh mermaris (that believes interrogation is hitting somebody until they admit they are guilty), is just a walk in the park. As if it doesn’t have any consequences in these victims lives, their families and in large the patients they are treating. You made it sound that it’s okay to go in and out of “Kalit” and “Maekelawi”. You realize that it’s not some fancy hotel right?

    Have you talked to or read the horrors of people’s experience who got arrested in such ridiculous charges and later released? Better yet, can’t you see this is the very path this government want to follow in intimidating anybody who disagree with it? The prove is in your own words. Your treatment of it as a part of a normal life is the result of how subjugation and intimidation has become a way of life under this government and anybody talking against it seems to be out of place. So Solomon if one can’t oppose a policy as peacefully as raising their hands above their head and the subsequent arrest of these kind of opposition is normal to you, it’s very troubling.

    2. You said: “ተማሪዎቹ አሸባሪዎች ናቸው እያልኩ አይደለም፡”

    Very true. They are not. They are students who disagree with the government policy. Now you went on to characterize the protest as a mere violent act that threatens to disturb the fledgling peace and economic activities of the country.

    But is that a fair characterization of this protest? There are thousands of reports coming from eye witnesses just like you and supported by evidences of pictures and videos that the substantial majority of the protests were peaceful. What was not peaceful was the over the top method the military and federal police used to silence these protests.

    Now if you try to see the nature of protests especially those that can be considered leaderless just like this Oromo Protests, they are not flawless. There would be some who want to take that as an opportunity and act violent, some who want to loot properties out of anger…many more undesired outcomes. Protests are not perfect. They come out of people’s frustrations. The fair way judging what kind of protests and how to handle them is see what the majority is doing. The majority was peaceful in Oromo Protests which is a fact.

    You also cared so much about the disturbance of peace and economic activities. I hope you also give your attention and care to the peace and economic betterment of the very people whose lands are the major source of the countries economy.

    In conclusion, I see a big problem in your comment. You started with characterizing the arrest of peaceful (raising hands) protests as no big deal and end it with “ስለዚህ መንግስት ጠበቅ ያለ እርምጃ ቢወስድ አይገርምም” when talking about the heavy hardness of the government forces on the rest of the protesters which were overwhelmingly peaceful with some looting in the mix. At least you don’t advocate the killing of the students. For that I thank you.

    By the way the number of people killed by government forces in this protest is more than 85 according to the last reports I saw which when asked to confirm this government replied and I am paraphrasing here as “…we don’t go into numbers game”. That’s how much it means to them.

    Thanks,
    Addis

    • Solomon

      Selam Addis,

      Thanks for the reply, I will also try to clarify myself

      What i mean is in Ethiopia it is not only “the principle of human rights
      and justice” which is low but everything. In A/A you hear everybody
      complaining about the quality of Electricity, internet connection, water
      supply, the justice system, bureaucracy etc. May be you have experienced it
      also. When you go from Addis further everything becomes worse and worse. So how
      can we expect democracy, human right, justice to be perfect? That is why our
      country is called one of the poorest country in the world. That is why i said
      the arrest of those people is not big deal. As for opposing EPRDF a lot of
      people oppose the government more vocally and harshly but they are not all
      arrested. Why these people were arrested I think as I explained before the
      situation was getting out of hand so officials will get nervous and they will
      arrest a lot of people. I hope they
      release them soon if they are arrested.

      I don’t know if all the protest of the students was peaceful
      or not. As I explained before the whole transport system was interrupted. If the
      government hadn’t interfered I don’t know what will happen. If the protest has
      been done without harming the economy and the livelihood of so many people it
      would have been perfect. As I said before I don’t approve the heavy handedness
      of the government. But there is no job which is done perfectly in
      our country.

      “You also cared so much about the disturbance of peace and
      economic activities. I hope you also give your attention and care to the peace
      and economic betterment of the very people whose lands are the major source of
      the countries economy.” When I talked about peace and economic activity I was
      talking primarily about Oromiya and the whole of our country. As I said before
      I am working in Oromiya region for a long time now and I am seeing the change
      that is happening in the remote areas of the region. There is no place which
      doesn’t have electricity, communication, education, health centers, banking
      etc. Is it enough? No. I know also the Oromo people have a lot of grievances,
      but I don’t think the A/A integrated plan is the main one. I wish the
      government give solutions before it gets out of control. But the way forward is
      through peace.

      What I want to say is Peace is most important. Because we
      have peace now we are seeing some development. If we continue like these for
      some years we will reach a point of no return to chaos and destruction. Then we
      can give more attention to democracy.

      Solomon.

      • አዲስ

        Solomon,

        I am quite aware of the status of my country but at least you and I or anybody should agree that if somebody protests anything as peaceful as raising one’s hand, then at the minimum they shouldn’t get arrested. As simple as that. You don’t have to be the richest or the most democratic country in the world to expect that from your government. How is this not a big deal even your most peaceful expression get you to the notorious jails of the country?

        You said: “Why these people were arrested I think as I explained before the situation was getting out of hand so officials will get nervous and they will arrest a lot of people”.

        Really raising your hands made the situation “getting out of hand”?

        I understand your wish for peace and stability. There’s no sane person in their right mind who wish their country to do great that wouldn’t want that. As you believe the country is developing and doing great, there is a significant portion of the country who believe otherwise. That portion of the country feels repressed, their children sent to jail, their land taken…. and many more grievances. If this portion of the country doesn’t feel being heard and whenever they are raising their questions is met with at the very best with “keep quiet we are developing” and the worst getting killed left and right, chaos will ensue.

        Nobody expects Ethiopia to be the beacon of democracy right away but the approach this government is taking clearly is alienating a significant portion of the country. If you really follow this situation this is not the first time a protest erupted about the AA master plan. There was one a year ago too. How did the government chose to address that? we all know how. You said this is not a pressing issue for Oromo people, but they say it’s. They say it represents a lot of injustice by this government against them and thinking this protest is only about a master plan is very simplistic.

        So Solomon please don’t follow EPRDF’s line of thinking which goes like this: when asked about the drought, they answer hey there’s a drought in California too. As if Californians are worried about what they are going to eat. When asked about protesters getting arrested they answer hey there are protesters who get arrested in the U.S. too.

        Let’s not wait until the problem is knocking our doors. Let’s at least agree that peacefully protesting and expressing your disagreement shouldn’t lead you to jail and if it does it shouldn’t be treated as a not big deal. If we can’t agree on that, how can we actually move on with all the problems facing our country?

        Thanks,
        Addis

  • Kokhob Selam

    እንኳን ለኣዲሱ ኣመት ኣደረዎ ብለናል: –

    እንግዲህ ጉዳዩ ያለቀለት ይመስላል :: የኢትዮጵያ መንግስትም ነቃ ብሎ ነበር ነገሮችን የተመለከተ ::

  • Kokhob Selam

    ዝኸበርኩም እንዳ ዓዋተ ርሑስ ሓዲስ ዓመት ይግበረልና ::

    ” ምኽንያታዊ ምምስሳል ቅዲ ሒደት ቱኒዝያ – ኣብ ምስግጋር ኤርትራ ናብ ዲሞክራሲ -” እቲ ኣርእስቲ ብጥቅሲ ናይ ‘ቲ ውሩይ ኣንቶን ቺኮቭ ምጅማሩ – ብሓቦን ትዕግስትን ነቲ ኩሉ ጠቀነታት ብምሕላፍ ብዘይ ምሕላልንን ዕረፍትን ንኻልኦት ክንሰርሕን ከነገልግልን ከምዘለና – ኣዝዩ ዓቢ ብዝኾነ መልእኽቲ እዩ ጀሚርዎ እዚ ክቡር ሓው :: ኣነ ከም ሓደ ካብ ‘ዚ ወሪዱና ዘሎ ጸበባ ንምግልጋል እንመሃር ዘለና ሰባት : – ንጽሑፋት ከም ኣማኑኤል ዝኣመሰሉ ሰባት ብኣትክሮ እየ ዘንብብ :: እዛ ኣርእስቲ ካብ ዝወጸትሉ ዕለት ክሳብ እዛ ሰዓት እዚ ኣ ድማ ምንባብ ጥራይ ዘይኮነስ :- ናይ ነብስ ወከፍ ሓረግ መልእኽቲ ብዑምቀት እየ ኣንቢበ ዕድመን ጥዕናን ይሃቦ ክቡር ኣማኑኤል::

    “ጨካናት ጀጋኑ ኮይኖም ኣይፈልጡን እዮም :- ግዳ ኸኣ ጀጋኑ ጨካናት ኮይኖም ኣይፈልጡን እዮም ” ብእትብል ምልእቲ ሓሳብ ዝፍለጥ ዓርኪ ኣለኒ : እዚ ብሂል ብርግጽ ሓቅነት ዘለዎ እዮ :: እቶም ንሰላምን ራህዋን ዝሰርሑ እዮም ጀጋኑ ዝነበሩን ሕጂ ውን ገና ዘለው :: ነዚ ዘዘከረኒ ድማ ሕጂ ውን ድሕሪ ‘ዚ ኩሉ በደላት ነገራት ብሰላም ክዛዘሙ -ኣብ ዑደት ስቃይን ረብሻን ከይንነብር – ህዝቢ ብሓላፍነት ናይ ጉዳዩ ዋና ክኸውን ዝካየድ ዘሎ ቃልሲ ብምዕዛበይ እየ ::

    ብዝኾነ ኣገባብ ዝጥርነፍ ውዳበ መንቀልን ምኽንያትን ኣለዎ :: ኣብ ኣረጊት ኣተሓሳስባ ገለ ሰባት :- ኩሉ ዓይነት ወዳበ ጌጋ :- ድሕረት :-ቀቢላውነት :- ጸቢብ ብሄረተኝነት እናተባህለ እዩ ዝግለጽ :: በዞም ድሑራት ኣተሓሳስባ እቲ እንኮ ውዳበ እቲ ንሶም ዝኣምንሉ ውድብ ጥራይ እዩ :: በዚ ዝዓይነቱ ኣተሓሳስባ ዝተላዕጠጡ ድማ እዮም ብህግደፋዊ ፕሮፖጋንዳ ብቀሊሉ ጅሆ ተታሒዞም ዘለው:: ህግደፍ ትሕተ ሃገርነት እናበለት ከተጸልም እንከላ ንነብሳ ልዕሊ ሃገርነት እናመዘነት ምህላዋ ዘስተብሃሉ ጥራይ እዮም ነቲ ቀንዲ ጸገም ከለልዩ ዝኽእሉ:: እቲ ዘገርም ሰባት ውዳቤታቶም ፈንፊኖም ርእሲ ብርእሶም ከምጸላእቲ ክጠማመቱ ምጽነሖም እዮ ::

    እቲ ሓቂ ግን ብዝሐ ውዳበ ምልክት ምሩቕ ፍልልያት ድኣ እምበር መርገም ኣይኮነን :: እቲ ምንታይ ሲ ደቂ ሰብ መጀመርያ ዝጠራነፉ በቲ ዝስኣንዎ መሰል ስለ ዝኾነ :: ሓደ ብሄራዊ መሰሉ ዝተጋህሰ ብብሄር ተጠርኒፉ ክቃለስ ጌጋ ኣይኮነን :: ከምኡ ቀቢላዊ ይኹን ሃይማኖታዊ ወዘተ :: እቲ ጉዳይ ጌጋ ዝኸውን ውዳበ ኣብ ክንዲ ንምሕላው መሰልካ ብተጻራሪ ንምግሃስ ናይ ካለኦት መሰላት ክውዕል እንከሎ እዩ ::

    እምበኣር ኩሎም ዝተበደሉ በብውዳቤታቶም ቀሪቦም ሓበራዊ ወካሊ ውድብ ክምስርቱን ሸተኦም ነቲ ናይ ነብስ ወከፎም መሰል ዝገሃሰ ገባቲ ምሕደራ ብምቕናዕ ኣብ ዝቃለስሉ ህሞት እዩ እቲ ገባቲ ዕምሩ ዝሓጽር :: እዚ ከይከውን እዩ ህግደፋዊ ስርዒት ኣንጻር ውዳቤታት ኣበርቲዑ ዝቃለስን ዘይምትእምምማን ዝዘርእን ዘሎ ::

    ጉዳይና ኣብ በጺሕዎ ዝተሓላለኸ ክውንነት እምበኣር ሲቪካዊ ማሕበራት ክህልዎም ዝኽእል ግደ ብርግጽ ዝለዓለ እዮ ::ሲቪካዊ ማሕበራት ከም ሰላማውያን ማሕበራት መጠን ኣብ ሞንጎኣን ኣዝዮ ዝተኣሰኣስር መርሕን ግበረ እዮን ክሃንጻን – ሓቢረን ክሰርሓን ኣብ ዝጅምረሉ ፈለማ እዋን ናይ ቀደም ገድላዊ ውድባትን ሓደስቲ ዝተፈጥራ ውድባትን በቲ ርእሲ ብርእሱ ቂምን ታሪኻዊ ፍልልያትን እምብዛ ዘይጸለዎ ሓፋሽ ተሓዊሰን ይቅረጻን – ድልየትን ህርፋንን ሓፋሽ ብዝምእክል ዕላማ ይውነናን እሞ ጉዕዞ ዲሞክራሲ ኣብ ኣዝዩ ዱልዱል መሰረት ይትከል :: እቲ መስርሕ ልቦናን ከቢድ ስራሕን እኳ ዝሓትት እንተኾነ ኣብ ምሕጻር ስቃይን መከራን ዝህልዎ ግደን ኣብ ጉዳይ ምትካል ህዝባዊ መንግስትን ዝህልዎ ግደ ዓጀብ ዘብል እዩ :; ኮታ ምልኣተ ስርዓተ ሕግን ኣተኣማማኒ መጻእን ኣብ ‘ዚ ተኣምር ዝኾነ ውጽኢታዊ ቅዲ እዩ ዝርከብ ::

    ከም ኮኾብ — እዚ ውን ግን ኣዒንቱ ሰም ከየበለ ንነብስ ወከፍ ስጉምቲ ህግደፍ ዘስተብህልን ነቲ ሰኺሩ ዘሎ ምትእኽኻብ ገበነኛታት እናላደደ ንቅድሚት ዝምርሽ ወተሃደራዊ ውዳበ እንተዘየልዩ ህዝቢ ክዕወት እዩ ኢለ ኣይኣምንን እየ ::

    ህግደፍ ክትሓቅቅ እያ !!

    ከኾብ ሰላም

  • Amde

    Selam Addis,

    In the spirit of elevating this discussion, here is a documentary clip of another land dispossession issue that resulted in the government reacting with outrage. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XfqlbFvGN8

    Amde

    • አዲስ

      Amde,

      Thanks for that. You can’t go wrong with Mel Brooks. Time permits hopefully I will watch it over the weekend.

      Thanks,
      Addis

  • Peace!

    Solomon,

    መልካም ኣዲስ ኣመት! Abish እንዳለው ቀልድም ተጨምሮበታል: ነገር ግን ችግሩ እዛ ስለሆነ መፈትሔም እዛ ሳይሆን ኣይቅርም: መቀላቀል ብዙ ትርጉም ያለው ኣይመስለኝም።

    ይልመድህ የኔ ወንድም!

    • Solomon

      Thank you Peace!

      Happy new year to you also.

  • Kim Hanna

    Selam Solomon,
    .
    Oh! SOLOMON, if Solomon is not your real name I recommend you change your name legally to “Solomon”. If Solomon is your real name I take my hat off to your parents, for a job well done.
    .
    You are a wise, mature, intelligent and decent Ethiopian. I wish you the very best for the 2016 new year from out here in the west.
    .
    Abi, is a good man, don’t worry too much about him. He is a very talented individual, I sometimes get good protocol advice from him. I listen to him. Occasionally he gets out of the box to win arguments with other talents like SAAY by advocating replacement of Amharic with English in Ethiopia. But, you should not compare him with “peace” who is entirely a different animal. They have different hopes and goals.
    .
    I hope you will be able to visit and post more often, specially from where you are located. Let me wear my Abi hat here for a minute and say that if it can be done in English you will reach 100% of the Awatistas.
    .
    I just wanted to express my appreciation to your analysis and input.
    Thanks again.
    .
    Mr. K.H

    • Peace!

      Mr.k.H,

      Could it be that you have nothing substantial to say you up vote people in writing? Go back and read all of your comments, nothing except እግዚሔር ይስጥልኝ ( I hope you don’t need a translator for that). Last time I advised you to man up and debate like a man. Please make that your New Year resolution please, till then adios!

      Regards

    • Solomon

      Selamat Kim,

      Yes, Solomon is my real name and Thank you for your generous and nice words.

      Happy new year to you and all Awatistas who live in the west. For us in Hager
      bet it is almost in the middle of the year, but we are preparing to celebrate
      Gena in about 5 days so it is Happy Ethiopian x-mass for us.

      I know Abi is good Ethiopian and he wishes the best for his country. I will not
      compare him with Peace. What i don’t understand is Peace”s logic. Some
      times he seems to have good wishes for Ethiopia and he wants to come to
      Ethiopia and enjoy the good things but he wishes also to create division
      b/n Ethiopians by spreading propaganda TPLF doing this to Oromos doing that to
      Amharas, Somalis etc. I don’t think that is good wish for Ethiopia.

      Thanks again.

      Solomon.

      • Kim Hanna

        Selam Solomon,
        .
        Happy Gena to you and yours.
        .
        I hope from here on you come in on occasion to wipe off crocodile tears that is being shed by a very few determined Awatistas for their own agendas. At other times, if you notice that a positive development in Ethiopia is not making it through the clutter (or is presented in a twisted format) please bring it to the forefront, as well.
        .
        In the process if you meet insults, hopeless and disingenuous people, don’t waste your energy and time, that is my only unsolicited advice. I have been here ,at Awate University, for a number of years and recently graduated in one piece.
        .
        Mr. K.H

  • Abi

    Selam Solomon
    Yagere lij endet alehlign?
    I still say dabo before democracy. However, my objection is the heavy handed approach of the government is embarrassing. We need to have the basic human rights to blossom in our country. In my opinion the government is responsible to make it or break it. Esat beEsat ayTefam. Look how many people lost their lives? Was it necessary?
    I admire your optimism. You and I share the same optimistic approach. Our future is brighter than ever before.
    Now, the conversation between Peace and I about visiting some places, it is our usual joke . Don’t worry about it. We have said the same thing about Massawa, Asmara, and other places. We even said we race cuccineta from Asmara to Masawa. Don’t take everything seriously. I hope you didn’t take the proposed “camel race” in keren seriously. Solomon wendme, I spend most of my energy in this forum defending my people. However, I strongly believe the government should be open for criticism.

    Enjera yiwTalih, tebarek, yezemed awra yargih….

    • Peace!

      Abish,

      You are in trouble:) actually that was a good response except that you made the issue look about democracy which is contrary to the facts on the ground. People are protesting peacefully against the illegal land grabbing or expansion if you wish. I see no bread or democracy here, seriously. And the other thing is what’s the point of focusing on the brutal government response against peaceful protesters if the root cause of the problem is not properly addressed? Come on Abish!!!

      Happy New Year

      • Ted

        Hi peace, leave Abi alone, people are being killed for protesting and 15 million of them are needing “Dabo”. What do you expect from him except to be proud Ethiopian in Eritrean website.

        “I spend most of my energy in this forum defending my people” does he really need to defend his people from Eritreans. As you can see, people who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.

        • Abi

          HI Ted
          How about protecting my country from those Yeqen jiboch who called us cows and milk us? Let’s start from the lowest of lows for the time being.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Hi Abo,

            እነማን ናቸው ? እነ በሬ ካራጁ!

          • Abi

            Kokobe
            Happy new year

            Have you been to qera? some of them used to live and work over there.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Abshiye,

            ይቅር በላቸው :: ናፍቆቱናትና ትዝታው ያሳብዳል!ኣይጣል ነው:: ቁርጥ ከቢራ ጋር የለመድች ሆድ !!Lol.

        • Peace!

          Hi Ted,

          I don’t know how long does a hangover lasts? It has been almost twenty-five years, and Abi is not showing sign of improvement. It is indeed a waste of time to even try to defend ethnic ( የጎሳ ) politics. ኩቡር ፕሮፌስር መስፍን said it eloquently that EPRDF does not represent parties with different political ideologies, but rather it represents different የጎሳ ድርጅቶች. With that in mind, it is safe to conclude that TPLF is the government and should be held responsible for everything the country is facing.

          Happy New year!

    • Solomon

      Selam Abi,

      ያገሬ ልጅ እንዴት ነህ አንተስ

      በቅድምያ እግዚሄር ያክብርልኝ ለመልሱ

      I am glad to hear you are still for Dabo first. I think everybody wants the
      real democracy like in the west for his country but as we can see it in these
      days in a lot of countries democracy doesn’t necessary bring with it peace and
      development especially in countries which are more diverse and less developed
      societies. I don’t want anybody to die in vain for democracy because in the end
      after a lot of death and destruction what we get is most probably not better
      than what we have now and start again from zero and the cycle continues. But
      what we have now is if we continue like the past 10-15 years for the coming
      10-15 years we will be more stable and i hope the government will be more confident
      and open more political space and respond to opposition and criticism with less
      nervousness. What i am saying is lets take baby steps in the democracy front if
      we can continue with the development.

      About the heavy handed approach i am also very sad all these young students
      have to die. As i said before i think the government could have avoided all
      these deaths by using more soldiers with the proper gear to disperse the
      demonstrators. This is very bad for our country, as it is there is a lot of
      discontent in Oromia and these will only aggravate the situation and there are
      a lot of people who want to use these kind of situations to create more chaos.

      Abi, how can you say you will go to Asmara with Peace? You have a lot of reliable Awatista friends to choose from but not Peace.

      ረጅም ዕድሜና ጤና ይስጥልኝ የኔ ወንድም

      Solomon

  • Abi

    Hi Hope Gerageru
    Thanks for the nice words. Most probably he was killed by one ” hodam ” Amhara. The good thing is his children are doing extremely well, his widow is now happily married. One of the most memorable wedding I have ever been to. Life continues.
    Melkam Addis Amet.
    Yekermo sew yibelen.

  • Amanuel

    Hi Amanuel H

    Thanks for the educational article and putting your point of view on how to bring solution to our problem. However, I would be cautious to use Tunisia as example as it is early days and it is not yet out of the woods. Further more, there are several factors which makes the Tunisian experience difficult to adjust to our case. Some of them are
    1) PFDJ and RCD are not comparable. Even though both are authoritarian regimes, I would say RCD was a bit softer, may be closer to EPRDF of Ethiopia than PFDJ and hence more challenging to bring down PFDJ. I agree with you IA will be gone. It is just a matter of time but to bring down the PFDJ system will be more challenging than the Tunisian faced with RCD. For example the Eritrean Defence Force, Police and Security Agents are part and parcel of PFDJ system which was not the case in Tunisian.
    2) Lack of credible movement inside or out side Eritrea. As you put it in Tunisia there were credible movements which managed the transitional period, however in Eritrean there is no movement in the side the country capable of dismantling the PFDJ system and carrying out the task of managing the transition period . I agree there are movements out side Eritrea which some you have mentioned, however I am afraid you are asking them to run before they can walk.
    3) Eritrea has two major religions (Muslim & christian), which bring their own challenges.
    4) The existence of perceived hostile neighbour. Ethiopia is perceived (perception is very important) as hostile neighbour by majority of Eritreans and that makes the change process more complicated than what happened in Tunisia.

    Wish you a happy new year
    Amanuel

  • sara

    Dear awate’s

    Happy new year to all…after i read ato amanuel hidrat article, see what is coming as a gift of new year to us from his friends.
    “Indeed, as the end justifies the means, Ethiopia has to use everything at its disposal to take a swift military action against Eritrea; get rid of its hostile government;annex Assab and declare any deal with a foreign country as null and void, based not only on history, geo-politics and demography, but also the
    clear and present danger the country is subjected to, and the lives of 90million people that is put at risk”.

    well-come 2016

  • Music Novice

    Greetings,

    Where has Saleh (saay) gone?

    I suspect he is mourning Ian “Lemmy” Kilmister’s passing away.

    • saay7

      Hey MN:

      I have cited Lemmy and his song “Killed by Death” quite a few times in my articles over the years. Including this 2003 article one that SA recently cited “Goodbye, friend” in his hommage.

      http://awate.com/goodbye-friend/

      Yes, of course, I paid tribute to him in my FB:) “‪#‎Motorhead‬ lead singer Lemmy sang ‘the only time I am easy is when I am killed by death.’ He is dead from cancer at 70”

      My favorite Lemmy story: he used to collect World War II Nazi paraphnellia and whenever journalists would be all shocked, he would say, “if it doesn’t bother my black girlfriend, why does it bother you?” What a guy, RIP!

      Happy New Year, all awatistas!

      saay

      • Music Novice

        A nice article you wrote 12 to 13 years ago.

        In general, death is not random, as it is not equally likely for everyone. Factors such as diet, physical exercise, heredity, age and availability of good medical services play a role. Even deaths due to car accidents are far from random and are influenced by causes such as driver reaction, experience, road environment, distraction, vision impairment and vehicle defects.

        Death by self-selection i.e. by taking ones own life, also lacks randomness. The only scenario where death, on an individual level, where randomness could be entertained is in a war situation or during natural
        disasters such as earthquakes, hurricanes and tsunamis. The worst case is that, in about 4 billion years time, there is an even certain death due to the nuclear reactor, which we call our Sun, finishing its
        fuel.

        But there is one consolation though. Matter and energy can neither be destroyed or created, so death can be considered as a transformation of matter from one form to another.

        To come back to maverick Lemmy, the man had chosen a hard life of drinking Whisky like water, smoking heavily and experimenting with various substances. After such a sustained self-abuse of his body for many years, it is a miracle that he made it to seventy. (The great Yemane ‘Baria’ Ghebremicael died a mere 48.)

        Still, he was a great man, challenged authority, speaking his mind and through his bass guitar and lyrics he spoke to millions. At least we can be certain, no randomness here, that had he lived in some third-World hell-hole he would not have reached half that age.

        I have now paid my tribute to the man, through a two minute silence and played loudly, disturbing my neighbours, his best output ever, which is Silver Machine, in remembrance of his life:
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yao_T2adl14

  • Peace!

    What’s up Hope,

    There is no such Ethiopian army that’s capable of invading a foreign country, but rather there is a collapsing TPLF army facing massive defections. For the oppressed Amharas and Oromos, today is not 1993 that they were dragged into a war with Eritrea just because TPLF wanted to loot Ethiopia by itself which it turned out rewarding. Now, according to EPRDF’s economic measure,Tigray is considered developed with 54 major industries, 5 international Airports, 4 major universities, and decent unemployment rate while Oromo and Amhara region are considered developing with 15 million of the population are starving to death, and Afar and Somali are out of picture and are considered backwards. Now that the Oromos, Amharas, Afars, and Somalis are now fully aware that their country is being looted by TPLF and its elites, the only war they must win is to weed out TPLF, nothing else. Fool me once shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.

    regards

  • Fanti Ghana

    Hello Addis,
    Well, obviously I don’t have the facts whatsoever, but is it possible that:
    May be it is illegal to disrupt a hospital function with un licensed demonstration.
    May be it is illegal to spread false political propaganda in the work place.
    May be this is an elaborate and last attempt to create mass confusion by sour losers of the last election.
    I advice caution and wait until we have all the facts.

    • Abi

      HI Fanti
      Did you see the picture? I saw the picture. It is about 30 medical professionals with their bare hands up in the air. I don’t see any thing in their hands. Not even scissors. I don’t understand why the government is pushing the people to the limit. Ethiopians have removed ” Tsehayu Nigus” in 1974. I suggest the democratic government of the republic of EPRDF , the undisputed winner of the most disgraceful election read some history.

      • Fanti Ghana

        Hello Abisha,

        Now that she is back, you are already beginning to make sense.

        There is a lot we don’t know yet brother. EPRDF doesn’t arrest people for raising their hands. The way I see it, those who depended their ascension to the throne through chaos are pushing the government to the limit. Hang in there; you will know the truth soon.

        • Abi

          Fanti melti
          Now that she is here I will be a flower delivery boy.
          “EPRDF doesn’t arrest people for their hands.” It is really comforting to know. My uncle was killed in EPRDF prison just because he was Amhara. Go figure.
          “Hulu yihalif ” yilal Tigre. I will hung in there alright. I hope EPRDF stops hanging the people.

        • አዲስ

          Fanti,

          You said: “EPRDF doesn’t arrest people for raising their hands”

          That’s literally what the charge reads. I am sure you can read or am I in the Twilight zone? eway tekeste…eski yihun.

          God bless you Fanti

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello Addis,

            Although I was here today because I found a little extra time (New Years) coupled with the jolt of energy Hayat’s reappearance produced, I am still in a time crunch to give this topic the attention it deserves. You, Amde, and others had a nice discussion about the demonstration and its aftermath a while ago, and I found myself agreeing with you in most of your takes. Therefore, the chances are good that we may have similar ideas and feelings about what led to this chaos in the first place, and I hope we will discuss it farther when the time is right for both of us. So, I am politely asking for a rain check on this one for now.

            Peace!,
            I hope you are reading this, because this message applies to you too my friend.

      • Peace!

        Abish,

        Don’t worry help is on the way. The truth shall set free all of those siding with oppressors. The downfall of TPLF is the best Christmas gift so far I am pleased with because I can’t wait to visit addis with you: driving all the way to Sodere with few stops at Debre Zeit and Nazret, and then to Langano and Subarguma. Tell me about it!

        Regards

        • Abi

          Hey Peace
          Most of the time it is not just TPLF . It is its multi layered condoms that caused most of the damage.

          Have you been to Kuruftu at Debrezeit? You will love it. Do you know how to drive in Addis?

          • Peace!

            Abish,

            Can’t agree more. Of course, driving in addis is what made me a good driver here in the U.S. I even mentioned that experience to bring my auto primium down:) yap that place in Debre Zeit is so good: I had delicious breakfast few times when driving back to the city from Sedore. Nazret is another beautiful town I really miss. Hey, abish! too much to re explore!

            Regards

    • Peace!

      Dear fantish,

      Are you serious? Do you think the 100% election victory is real to the extent calling hospital workers election losers just because they denounce inequality? ኣንታ ሎምስ ገለ ክንሰምዕ ኢና። well, If you are waiting for the TPLF government to provide you facts, please don’t keep waiting that those peaceful protestors are a bunch of demons and terrorists. Wow!

      Regards

      • Fanti Ghana

        Hello Peace!

        The hospital workers nor most of the demonstrators are election losers, but it is entirely possible that their agitators, organizers, and false information suppliers are. This whole thing could be a stunt anyway, but what do you think about doctors and health professionals making political gestures during work hour at a hospital?

        • Abi

          Fanti
          I have seen pilots protest at airport terminal.
          According to the law, everyone has the right to protest. Any ethnic group, any professional or a student. Work hour? Don’t insult my intelligence. Try again. They could do it in their coffee break, lunch time, before or after work, off days…. Come on Fanti. You can do better.
          My only opposition would be IF and ONLY IF these professionals are all Oromos. They should bring everyone with them. It should be ethnic neutral protest.

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello Abi,
            Assuming the picture is indeed genuine, one of their quoted statement starts with “all of you Oromos, get up. Our moral is high. We will go out of the country and our voice will be heard.” For your information, there is no master plan let alone one to demonstrate about. The master plan that is being referred to was shelved 2 years ago, and it was not made public. It is true that “everyone have the right to demonstrate,” but there are also laws that govern demonstrations, and every law abiding citizen should adhere to.

          • Abi

            Fantastic
            Now that is a great point. You know how much I hate ethnic politics. However, this heavy handed approach by our “elected” leaders must be completely changed. They rush to shoot at people demonstrating with bare hands. Do the people of Ethiopia have to be armed to get some respect from the brutal and eager to shoot government? This government is getting worse and worse every year.

          • Yoty Topy

            Ato Abyi,

            ‘Rush to shoot at people demonstrating with bare hands,, ‘

            It seems rather you who is rushing to judgment here. All parties; be it the government or the protesters ‘are guilty untill proven innocent.’

            So, how about you hold on to your own interpretation of events untill proven otherwise?

          • አዲስ

            Yoty,

            You said: “….’are guilty untill proven innocent.'”.

            What a noble concept! Did you come up with that all on your own? a revelation indeed. EPRDF must be so proud with followers like you.

            Thanks,
            Addis

          • Yoty Topy

            Adissye,

            I wish I could take the credit for that but to my great embarrassment the source of that quote is Jayz ft. RKelley, Blue Album.:)

            I think ‘follower’ is rather a strong word. ‘Admirer’ will be the apt description for my liaison with the greatest chapter in the continent .

          • አዲስ

            Admirer and Follower of EPRDF Yoty,

            I thought “follower” describes you more cause you blindly follow them by supporting their actions. But I have included “Admirer” to your title as you wish.

            Thanks,
            Addis

          • Yoty Topy

            ዐዲስ,

            First, I would like you to pay attention to how I spelled your name, deliberately, using the woyanew ‘ ዐ’, secondly, I know that deep down you admire them. Come on! who wouldn’t? Even Hollywood cannot even make up stuff like that.:)

          • አዲስ

            Yoty,

            I didn’t know you start claiming alphabets too 🙂 You guys can’t rest until you claim everything for yourselves. I wonder what psychologists would call this it’s all mine attitude 🙂

            Thanks,
            Addis

          • Abi

            Hi Yoty
            My problem is many people died before they were proven guilty.
            It seems you got it all upside down. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty.
            Happy new year.

          • Yoty Topy

            Hi Abi,

            Yours is the pedestrian version. Where is the fun in assuming everyone as being innocent? After all, we are all guilty by association of the original sin.

          • Shan

            Dear Abi,
            I read this comment more than ten times. I couldn’t say more thank you!

        • Peace!

          Dear fantish,

          You are passing judgment, and at the same you are advising people to wait for facts. With all due respect I sensed contradiction here. As for hospital workers, what do you think could be the reason other than perhaps they are feeling the obvious inequality due to the ethnic federal system. Fantye, such uprising doesn’t happen overnight out of blue. I think It is better to focus on what went wrong and try to come up with a solution rather than accusing and condemning others for exercising their rights. ኣይመስለካን!

          Regards

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello brother Peace!

            Please see my message to Addis here.

          • Peace!

            يهلا فانتيش

            أشكرك على انك جالس تشاركنا وتعطينا من
            اراك ومعلوماتك

            Regards

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello Peace!
            In fact, I was glad you did, because it was one of the few sentences in Arabic I could understand. I usually miss a couple of key words in a sentence and fill it with intuition to make sense of it. I thank you for both of your actions!

    • አዲስ

      Fanti,

      So you saw the document, read the listed charges that the defendants are accused of, you saw the “incriminating” picture and you came up with that? you try to find excuses even for this? and you are doing that in full conscience?

      At least you can add one more possibility among the many you mentioned that, it could be the government making a mockery of the justice system. Is there such possibility in your world Fanti? or the almighty EPRDF do no wrong?

      I mean one can debate this going in detail in any form of legal, democratic…principles and can actually list the many injustice done with just this case and its negative consequences. But you read something right in-front of you and you chose to believe otherwise. This is just sad. I realize how bad our countries problem is getting every time I talk to EPRDF supporters. Looking the other way and accusing the victim won’t help anybody. Today it’s those medical professionals, Oromo students, bloggers… tomorrow who knows?

      Thanks for the reply anyway. Tena Yistelegn!
      Addis

  • Ted

    Hi Hope. Time is not in Their side. Nothing can save TPLF even we gave Asseb in a silver platter.

  • Nitricc

    Hi Adis; i have no moral obligation to comment on your take but you addressed selected people…..
    Abi Ethiopian
    Horizon Ethiopian
    Eyob Tigryan
    Hayat Tigryan
    Fanti proud Tigryan!*
    SGJ; is he Tigryan or Ethiopian or i don’t. what was the reason for SGJ to be listed among the Tigryans and Ethiopians? what is the reason for you to include on that list? if you have added say, the big mouthed Semere Andom; i have no question but now, you get me questioning. why SGJ?

    • አዲስ

      Nitricc,

      Focus Nitricc. Don’t waste my and your time with a non-issue. Have you looked at the link I provided ? If you like comment on that. If not then you can always entertain your conspiracy theories on your own.

      Thanks,
      Addis

      • Nitricc

        Hi Adis, fair but i will share why i brought that up. till then don’t you find it strange to include SG on your list? again i will share what i had on my mind. even the great Amde is not on the list.
        anyway; my bad if you think i was off the line.
        respect!

        • አዲስ

          Nitricc,

          I honestly meant nothing cynical by it. It was just an attempt to raise attention. I also included ”… and all awate people”. That obviously include you and everybody here. Amde is there too next to Abi. What happened to your eyes today? 🙂 anyway let’s stop talking about this and focus on the topic I raised if possible.

          Thanks,
          Addis

          • Abi

            Addise
            Endet keremk?
            I could not see the document. I will try again later. If you don’t mind tell me the basics.
            Thank you.
            Nitricc can’t differentiate amed from Amde.

          • አዲስ

            Abiye,

            Selam negn. Ante endet aleh?

            The document shows a charge from a Federal Prosecutor accusing Medical professionals for holding their hands up high in support of #OromoProtest and it calls this action “…hizbin yemanesasat wenjel..”. The document attached the picture showing these medical professionals holding their hands up high as part of the evidence.

            These days even though I thought I won’t be surprised by EPRDF’s actions, they keep surprising me by how low they can go. Charging medical professionals for holding their hands up high. That’s where we are now.

            Thanks,
            Addis

            p.s. Amde vs Amed according to Nitricc 🙂 am sure he will find that funny too

          • Abi

            Addise
            Only in democratic Ethiopia raising your bare hand is a crime. What is the government want people to raise ? AK47?
            As I said it before, this backward and dedeb ethnic politics will eventually consume the one promoting it.

          • አዲስ

            Abiye,

            The absurdity has no bound. I just hope people who support them blindly start waking the f up.

          • Abi

            Addise
            ” Mukit siseba shotel yisilal ”

          • Nitricc

            Hi Adis Amde knows the story what I am talking about. Lol

  • Tewelde gebremariam

    Hi Amanuel H.,

    The Tunisia model might have worked in the nineties but today, it is an impossibility. The unnecessary and illegal war that the impostor isaias Afewerk launched , and the subsequent relentless and systematic social , economic disintegration and demolition that he has perpetuated ever since the Algiers agreement was precisely to undercut such possibilities.

    The woyane model , which you probably has been subscribing to, is also dead; the recent courageous uprising of the oppressed people of Oromo have exposed its volnurable belly in the wake of its forced submission to their demand, to scrap the Addis Abeba master plan. This exhibited weakness is of course a harbinger of its final demise in the near future.

    And you also know that the Algerian model did not work for ELF. What worked for us was what ourselves created, which shows we have the inherent capacity to figure out effective way to solve our problem. And we have it already. Veteran freedom fighters, such as Husein Kelifs, Wedi Blata, Dr. Asefaw, Huruy Tela to mention but a few are already on the bandwagon. Let us join them and shorten drastically the life of the impostor.

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Hi Tewelde,

      Which part of my proposal is from the Woyane model? Could you please give us any references or quote any from my idea that related to their ideas ? I want to know how you understand my views in real sense. I will see from that whether you are worthy for engagement. I am afraid that you from those who behave in a capricious manner. Help me to understand your personality by answering my questions. As to the personalties you mentioned to have the inherent capacity to figure out our problem I wish them all to their endeavor. But we should also be reminded that these personalities have been living in the Eritrean politics as leaders for decades. You know what I mean. But If they are capable to heal the Eritrean people and mitigate the mistrust that is lingering within us I will welcome it.

      You see Tewelde I am not fun of this forum and I decided to disengage from it. I am just commenting this to clear the allegation you made against me. So give me a fever, do ernest effort to answer my questions.

      Regards

      • AOsman

        Dear Amanuel,

        Since your call was on Civic Societies, awatistas may not have much to say, don’t despair if comments have diverted to other topics. Also ignore Tewelde’s allegations, they wont stick. Most of your reader know you are trying to come up with a formula that works and that is appreciated even if your solution is not fitting.

        In your previous debates with SAAY, not that I remember it all, he had put his case against Tunisia model on consideration of the literacy level, well established unions, civic organizations and institutions in in the country as opposed to Eritrea. Even if the Tunisia model does not work, some lesson can be taken therefore your argument is not in vain.

        We usually complain that we have too many political parties, having as many or more civic organizations that focus on specific activities is not a problem, but I get concerned when I see some are established to be mediators (it feels like a shortcut to power) and your recommendation feeds to that.

        How many of these “mediators” types of organizations do we have, not an idea…maybe someone in the know-how can enlighten us. The follow up question is what effort was made to make them work together.

        Regards
        AOsman

    • Semere Andom

      Hi Tewelde:

      Let me take you up on the following:
      The Woyane Model did not work: TPLF was a minority government and if they have not united to create EPRDF, Ethiopia would have disintegrated in 1991, everyone following Eritreans path. So regardless of what you think iof them, it worked, it kept the country together. Would it keep working, I have no clue. But what I know is, no one group from other region or ethnicity can claim to work on behalf of all the people. Everyone works for his own interest. Period.

      Algerian experiment did not work for ELF: Yes it did not only in the 60s but EPLF used the same model in 1988 to mend its ways with the Blen, they positively discriminated them, helped economically those families in need, and even gave them employment. The architects were Girmay Ghergis and Abrha Garza (a Soviet Educated), both from Blen. When a young student who read history proposed it, the Algerian experience was timely because given that the struggle was lead by Muslims, no Kebessa Christian was going to trust a Muslim as Eritrean identity was jsut forming and people did not really meet each other. Even IA when he was recruited by his friends to join the ELF underground groups he reportedly told them that he was apprehensive about the Jihadist ELF but that he is trusting them And when he finally joined people like W. Ammar and the late Michael Gabir were so shocked that they sent a letter to their contacts in ELF leadership warning them about IA.
      Did some people exploit the experiment to bolster their own group, yes? But it was a bridge until the divisions were united under one national banner and they were finally united to create the national organization what became ELF.

      Over two decades later EPLF would refine the Algeries model to penetrate the Blen and Kerenites, but they did it secretly.
      Knowing and studying the past history of the armed struggle, its triumphs, trials and tribulations, what it did wrong and right is not just an exercise of intellectual stimulation but it will also correct the deliberate EPLF/PFDJ trashing of otherwise gripping story of our people
      Whether we call it Woyane way, Algeria way or Eritrean way, we will succeed when every one of us works for his own interest governed by rule of law, it is all about the compromising of interest. Even in USA, it was the geographical compromise that created the constitution and it was the tussle between South and North that was a big contributor to the civil war.
      I am not suggesting we allow parties based on ethnicity and religion that is no brainner, it is disaster. But the notion of melting pot where the majority which by nature is arrogant and belligerent, to take care of the rest is absurd. Even in Canada, the first words that came from our last PM after winning every city in Alberta was this: “the west wanted in and it is in”
      But the overriding theme and focus is the implementation of the rule of law that governs how we conduct our affairs, and through the intense debates and jousting leads to a compromise and everyone becoming the subservient of the rule of law

      • Nitricc

        Hi Semere; you said

        ” But the notion of melting pot where the majority which by nature is arrogant and belligerent, to take care of the rest is absurd.”

        what happened to the principles of yours that goes by'”The best thing to happen for the minority is to be threaten by the majority”
        you have no stand what so ever; wishy wahsy. this is the reason no one takes you serious.

        • Ted

          Hi Nitricc, Semere has lost it hovering around the stupid pit eventually to descend down to the bottom. Is this a philosophical way of defending weyane “we will succeed when every one of us works for his own interest governed by rule of law, it is all about the compromising of interest” He contradict himself in a single sentences; work for own interest, rule of law and compromise. He didn’t complain when Weyane were his only hope to help him march to Asmara. Do Ethiopians protest just for heck of it or were denied their interest and justice. if he has working brains he would have wished the justice movement spread to the north. No, all his hopes are on TPLF to care if Eritreans can do it in their home.
          Happy New year to Awate team and all awatians.

          • Semere Andom

            Ted:
            Happy new year to u too.
            Usually people make new resolutions to be better people in the new year you seem have done the opposite, resolving to be worse human being. There is no contradiction in my sentence and you know it
            I will give you one example I heard about compromise. If you want the door open and the other person wants is shut, the compromise would be to open a window,

          • Ted

            Hi semere A. you could be right that people can not wrap their head around stupid ideas, i am no different. There can not be enough laws and bylaws to guaranty a minority to feel safe in a majority community or a nation . It is a majority’s best interest to look after the interest of minorities if happiness and respectful co-existence is to be established.If Tigrayan don’t feel accepted in Oromia or Bilen of Eritrea don’t feel loved in Asmara, any amount of law can not change that. Your TPLF thugs dreaming to rule Ethiopia forever created animosity among ethnic lines and by doing so, they shot themselves in the foot. As you can see in Oromia, they demonstrated clearly they can’t not be cheated in the name of “dabo”, if there is any.

        • Semere Andom

          Hi Tewelde:
          First do not quote Nitricc when you debate. What I said was even in your misleading quote is still consistent.
          I said it is natural for the minority to be apprhensive about the majority to to protect its interest, if that is too deep your friend is Nitricc.
          You can call me many things about when it comes to tryanny of the majority my comments are eduring testament
          Happy NY

      • Tewelde gebremariam

        Hi Semere,

        Zemene Kfltat personifies the Alegerian. Model. Now, if you know what comprised Zemene Kfltat, your example hardly fits the picture. But when you unfairly characterized the so called majority as ” ……..by nature arrogant and belligerent…..”, because such themes have been blowing from woyane, and because I understand the motive of woyane to redeem itself of its long subserviency under The Mighty EPLFs, I have understood you why you tried to fit the two incongruent pictures.

        • Semere Andom

          Hi Tewelde;

          Are you saying that the majority will care about the minority without any rule of law that will watch over the majority rule? For sure in a democracy the majority will win and they will lead but the rules that governs them will have to be enshrined by the input of the minority and the minority will keep them accountable by pointing to those rules through their reps. Simply no one will care about my interest more than me. The tyranny of the majority comes to mind. I can see why nitricc might have issue with it, I can understand why Ted cannot wrap his mind around this, but you?

          Even in the 20/20 of hindsight, given the configurations almost 60 years ago, how would you have made all Eritreans coalesce around the national agenda except by sending the “enlightened” and “emancipated” leaders to their respective regions to preach the gospel of nationalism that was the nucleus of the kiflatat theme. If am missing something, I am all ears

          • Tewelde gebremariam

            Hi Semere A.

            Happy New Year!

            In the aftermath of the demise of the impostor and his few cabals, at the higher level of the political hierarchy Eritrea will be blind to religion, ethnic , region and other trivialities. Merit of Excellence will be the governing principle secured by the People’s Constitution. And at social level, our multi cultural , reliigious and linguistic diversity will blossom side by side. In primary school, every child will be educated in the language of the region of his/ her residence. For example, the medium of instruction in Kunama region will be strictly Kunama language. This way, the cultural and linguistic barriers that are the sources of mutual mistrust and animosity etc. will be done away with, and in their ashes, Equality, Liberty , Fraternity and Unity will be bloom.

    • Yoty Topy

      Hi Tewelde,

      So according to you, the government’s attempt to diffuse the unrest by putting up the Master Plan for further public scrutiny is a sign of ‘weakness’ on the government’s part in your opinion?

      • Tewelde gebremariam

        Hi Yoti,

        Absolutely! It is not in the nature of tyrants to respond amicably to people’s demand. It is only when their demise is insight that they start to court the people. Just compaire this obvious defeat with its bravado and insolence of declaring 100% victory of national election a year or so ago.

        • Yoty Topy

          Hi Tewelde,
          The $64K question is when is that impending ‘demise’ that we have been told in 1991,1998,2001,2005 coming to reality?

          • PTS

            Yoty Topy,
            Can you tell me a little bit about this Toyota looking name of yours? Are you Japanese by any chance?
            P.S. Don’t pay attention to the predictions of the demise of the Ethio gov. The Eri gov will fall first because of absence of skeleton/structure. That is, unlike the Ethio gov, the Eri gov breathes through a single individual whose health is uncertain at best.

          • Ted

            Hi PTS, here is the hallmark card sent by YotyTopy lost in a mail.

            Friends make the good things better and the bad things not so bad… simply by being there

          • V.F.

            Hi PTS, it’s my absolute hope and wish that IA and his regime will be long gone before any unfortunate situation arises in Ethiopia. This one is no big deal. The shrewd and ultra razor sharp TPLF will quash this very soon.

          • Ted

            Hi VF, can i recommend a song to go with “my absolute hope and wish that IA and his regime will be long gone”

            I’m praying to keep me from breaking
            From being another loser helpless at the side
            And it’s crazy, like no one can save me this time
            Got me praying to the wrong god every night
            Praying to the wrong god
            Got me praying to the wrong god every night, every night

          • Yoty Topy

            Hi PTS,
            I wish I was brah/sis:) I have not seen an Abesha mix with a Japanese before but the Black-Japaneese I have seen make quite a striking breed.

            It is an ANAGRAM:)

            Yea, in the end, aren’t we all dead? as the British economist, Keynes lamented. One day EHADEG will be gone too but in the meantime I think folks just need to relax, grab a popcorn if needed and let the political artists of our era paint the destiny of the Horn of Africa.

          • Tewelde gebremariam

            Hi Yoti,

            Happy New Year.

            Learn from the experience of Haile Selase supporters who, like you, were also insolently rejecting such prophesy. But when the prophesy finally reached the vestibule of the palace, Haile Selase, like what woyane is doing now, tried to appease the revolutionaries by rotating his ministeries but of course in vain. Now, Haile Selase and his dynasty is history; and so will woyane.

        • Yoty Topy

          Happy New Year to you too Tewelde !

          Pls see my note to PTS:)

    • Hayat Adem

      Hi Tewolde,
      Can I engage you on these observations of yours?
      1) Algeria had been a good inspiration for revolutionary African independence struggles. How is ELF’s choice to see it that way a failure if you didn’t think Eritrea has not been independent yet; or EPLF is to be credited for it from A to Z?
      2) Tunisia represents a popular movement of collective citizens born of accumulated grievances and ugly governance..In fact, it couldn’t have been thought of in the nineties as there were no issues of ugly-governance then to speak of because Eritrea was a new nation unless you meant a popular movement against the ghedli itself. Now, we have seen PFDJ governance for years, why is that difficult to be inspired by Tunisia?
      3) And you seem to have well considered and applauded the Ethiopian Oromo uprising, which appears to me similar to that of Tunisia except for scale and maturity. Why wouldn’t you promote that model for Eritrea and you entrusted the task instead to ex-EPLF/PFDJ guards to come to solve the very problems they created?
      4) Existential weaknesses and political weaknesses are two different things. I would like to attribute the current Ethiopian Oromo appraisals as an account political weakness to the ruling party. If this makes sense, making concessions and compromise out of sensing political weakness is a sign of wisdom than submission. Cruel dictators never sense their political weaknesses and never concede until their time reaches a point of no-return even with concessions and too late even to save themselves. Examples would be Sadam, Gadafi, Mengstu, Isaias etc. You are not telling us that Weyane is in such a situation of no return, are you?
      Cheers,
      Hayat

    • Kokhob Selam

      Dear Tewelde Happy New Year

      … ርሑስ ሓዲሽ ዓመት ….
      ርሑስ ሓዲሽ ዓመት ንመን ንኹሉ :-
      ንኹሉ ካን ንኹሉ ! ወላ ንዝበደሉ :-
      እወ ‘ታይ ይፍለጥ ተጋጊና እንተበሉ :-
      ተናዚዞም ምስ ህዝቢ እንተጽለሉ ::

      ናይ ገለ ግዳ ክንደየናይ :-
      ተላዕጢጦም ብኣነነት ግናይ :-
      ኣብ ሞንጎና ከም ክርዳድ ኣብ ስርናይ :-
      ሕማቕ ሕልሞም ተግባራቶም እከይ ::

      እሞ ርሑስ ሓዲሽ ዓመት ንሰብ ርህዋ :-
      ሰላም ይንገስ ሃገርና ይሓልዋ :-
      ስርዓት ይንገስ ህግደፍ የዕንዋ :-
      ኣብ ዛ ዓመት ገልቢጡ ይዕለዋ ::

      ኣሜን በል !

  • Peace!

    Dear Hope,

    I thought EFND is Ata’araqit Shimagle, not a group with political ideology. If it is, that brings the total number of opposition groups to 34. Scary, ha! Way Gud.

    Anyways, I thought Amanuel Hudrat’s tone is a bit different perhaps because he is now convinced TPLF is utterly rejected by both Eritrean and Ethiopian people. Who knows Tunisia might be a place for next EFND meeting.

    Regards

    • Peace!

      Dear moderator,

      Excuse me! Are you sure you understand what I wrote? I don’t think you did! Would you mind sharing what EFEND stands for in ትግርኛ because that’s exactly what I did. Where did you get race, age, creed from???? Go ahead and pick on me as usual!!

      Regards

  • T..T.

    Dear Ismail Ahmed,

    As an active opposition member, I would like you to read the hereunder and correct my understanding of civic society as government support, e.g. those of Isayas COMS and others. If we intend Eritrean volunteers on fight to promote democracy in Eritrea, then we must be talking about civil society groups and not civic society groups.

    Source: http://www.senscot.net/view_art.php?viewid=7318

    QUOTE

    I would like to begin by making a distinction between what is meant by civic society and civil society. The first – civic society – I take to mean – the ‘local state’ – where citizens participate in local health boards – schools – community councils – planning partnerships and all the other mechanisms ultimately under the direction of the state. All this is good stuff. Civil society – I take to mean voluntary action – undertaken by citizens not under the direction of any authority wielding the power of the state. This is the definition of voluntary action given by Lord Beveridge in his famous 1948 report of that name. Beveridge said that ”the vigor and abundance of voluntary action – undertaken by citizens not under the direction of any authority wielding the power of the state – is one of the distinguishing marks of a free society!!

    I have offered this distinction between the civic realm of the state – and the civil realm of the citizen because I believe that government has the inbuilt tendency to poach our space – that there is a powerful lobby within the statutory sector which believes that anything organized in our communities outwith their control is potentially dodgy. It is important for us here today to consider whether a development trust operates in the civic realm of the state – or the independent realm of the citizen. Are we active partners in public sector programmes or are we independent `civil society` actors. UNQUOTE

    • T..T.

      Hello Ismail, Amanuel H., dawit and Aron,

      dawit’s claim of “Eritrean govt’s grass roots” participating in civic societies and his condemnation of the so called “civil society” appears to be in the right track. Discussions on what is what and their roles may help the use of the right term in the right message as well as defining the roles of civic and civil societies will enable to differentiate the Isayasists from the non-Isayasists. Clearing the difference may also help to avoid misrepresenting when communicating with foreign governments.

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Dear T.T,

        Please give me your email I will share my view to your very important questions.

        regards

        • PTS

          Amanuel,
          You wrote the article in public forum. Why do you want to discuss public issues privately? It doesn’t make sense.

          • T..T.

            Hi PTS,

            There’s nothing confidential about discussing how the opposition should describe their activities.

            However, it is nice to know from dawit’s application of the two terms “civic” and “civil” correctly that the Isayasists are aware that “civic” is theirs and the “civil” is their enemy’s. Knowing what we know now, there is a need to properly describe the opposition societies to avoid sending wrong messages. By so doing, the opposition will benefit more and push better on their own way of fighting the Isayasists. It is also an easy way of identifying and differentiating the enemy’s societies (those bearing the word civic) from those of the opposition’s civil societies. The term “civil” will put the opposition’s societies on the right track as anti-tyrant enhancing their fight against the tyrannical injustice in Eritrea to achieve the right or the desired goals including promoting democracy and saving people.

      • AOsman

        Dear T.T,

        Listen to the following discussion, it cover the same topic:

        https://youtu.be/J52bK6jXBko?t=744

        Regards
        AOsman

        • T..T.

          Hi AOsman,

          Thanks for the video. From the discussion I understand the misapplication of the term is deeper, wider and as yet not resolved. Hopefully, the opposition’s civil societies will take corrective measures following our ongoing discussions here. BTW, do you think that most of the misunderstanding caused was by the discussants’ (on the video) use of the word “civic” in their research for clarifications of linked or related activities.

  • Semere Tesfai

    Selam Hope

    Thank you for your support.

    In this war of ideas you’re the one with the biggest gun. Keep firing. Many people are counting on you. Thanks again.

  • Abi

    LT the all time Great.
    I nominate this comment for comment of the year award. I hope you keep writing. As you said let the best write and the rest read.
    Happy New Year.

  • V.F.

    Abi, musiqa lgabzih neber but I can’t find it. It’s mehedshin teyiw teyiw mehedshin teyiw teyiw.

  • Sani

    In case you dont know, a calling app called Ringoversea is now so cheap to call Ethiopia and Eritrea. Hope this helps?.

  • Hayat Adem

    Abi my friend,
    When I had to think as to what I must have been missing from Awate, your flag was the tallest and most visibly high up in my thoughts. It feels good to be back and reading your one-liner fatal punches. I am addicted to them.

    Hayat

  • Music Novice

    Greeting Hope,

    Regime “collapse”? By magic?

    “so as to make a reasonable Alternative”?

    In what way will this alternative be better than from what is already on offer from the PFDJ? Do we have evidence track record from these opposition groups? Aren’t most of these groups fighting the 50 years or so old personal battles of yesteryear?

  • Peace!

    Dear Emma,

    Afka’Ye’sa’r although I wouldn’t dare to say you are too naïve. I strongly recommend you read a great book by Naomi Klein, “The Shock Doctrine” I mean you are too smart not to know colonialism still exists today in forms of intervention, aid, loans, security, and son on, or unless you have no option but to stand against the conventional wisdom to make a case for your political agenda. Democracy cannot be imposed from outside regardless whichever successful country you have in mind to prove it. Eritreans are Eritreans, not Tunisians, and only Eritrean democracy fits for them just let it bubble from within. It is totally fine to look for options if it genuinely meant to serve the people, but what we need to keep in mind is any test comes with huge cost that writing careful test cases is extremely crucial. Dear Emma, regrettably your test doesn’t fit in with the environment you have been away for almost half a century.

    regards

  • T..T.

    Dear Amanuel Hidrat and all,

    Absence of civil society groups inside Eritrea is indicative of a tyranny or at least a system that can be described as a non-democratic system. Similarly, non-presence of active youth groups is indicative of excessive affliction to silence and control them. The tyrannized and exploited youth were forced to accept the dominance of the tyrant. The diehard defenders of the tyrant are to blame for weakening the youth and making them incapable of resisting repression.

    Unlike the old generation that lived free and who developed devotions to liberating their people from colonizers, the young generation appears to have been denied everything and made dejected. There is a lot of difference between the Eritrean youth inside Eritrea and the Tunisian youth. The Tunisian youth are a good match to the old Eritrean generation. Therefore, it is time to wonder and think what could be done to awaken the Eritrean youth inside Eritrea?

    No one expects the Eritrean youth inside Eritrea to think clearly. Ever since Isayas’s shock overtook the youth, they lost self-respect and as a result they lost the desire to regain what they lost by fighting back. Close family members and parents failed to understand the cause but lulled into assuming that the harsh rule of Isayas made the youth dead inside. Afflicted with excessive exploitation and unable to ask for justice, the only saver is believed to be the UN’s commission of inquiry on human rights. People say, the horrors and indignity already weakened the glue that holds the youth together and the only way for each is to emerge from the grips of the tyrant by crossing the border.

  • Semere Tesfai

    Selam Amanuel

    I have few questions for you. Just from the first couple paragraphs of your article:

    1.- You said: “Emerging democratic governments in the third world would certainly have to confront a legacy of poverty, illiteracy, militarization, a society with multicultural mistrusts, and under-developments, that are caused by incompetent or corrupted governments.”

    Do you believe all the third world misery is caused by corrupted and incompetent leaders? Think about Francophone African countries for a second: do you squarely blame their leaders for the misery of these poor African countries? Whose dictators are they anyway? Where do they stash their stolen money? They stash it in the capital cities of the “democratic” countries that you defend – and in the home countries of the elite whom you religiously worship (quote): Right? Now tell me: How did these bad guys and their stolen money find safe heaven in the good countries? Please, have some respect for yourself and for the small, weak, poor third world people and their governments.

    If you care to know my position: The misery of poor third world people starts and ends with global powers intervention. Like – forced shark loans and food-aid, regime change, sanction, blockade, invasion, covert/overt coup d’etat…….under the guise of……. basically anything.

    2. You said: “Although authoritarian regimes have a number of forms, they are collectively identified by the general models of one party system, personal dictatorship, and military regimes. Hence competitive politics are understood and rejected by such regimes as an imported luxury that has neither national values nor affordable to the society they govern. Our nation “Eritrea” is a representative of these regimes.”

    Now let me take you at your own words. For the sake of argument, if PFDJ led Eritrea, formed multiparty nation and run a multiparty election (in its true sense) and won fair and square, term, after term, after term…. would you consider Eritrea a democratic country and support the PFDJ government? Why or why not? Outside NATO countries and their satellites, can you name countries that are true democratic to your understanding? I just want to know.

    Again, if you care to know my opinion – on this planet, leaders of any nation are democrats (or a country is democratic), if and only if, its leaders are serving Western interest. Remember the recent Oromo uprising in Ethiopia and how Western Powers were/are mute. Well there is a good reason for that. But if Ethiopian leaders ever, ever…flirt/sleep with the Chinese, then the liberation of Ethiopia and the cause of the Oromo people would be at the forefront agenda of the UNSC. Look and learn, where the case of Djibouti is heading.

    3. “Often, postcolonial governments are always evolved into a domination of a single party of “one party system”.”

    Tell me: If a country is dominated by one party system, is that country automatically undemocratic? How so? Isn’t the objective of any political party (even in the West) to dominate forever and lead? When did political domination became a sin?

    4. “In order to make a transition to democracy, which is a daunting challenge, this author will argue in this post, that power must shift from authoritarian single party rulers to representative leaders who are sensitive to the grievances of our diverse social groups.”

    Just to understand you correctly, could you please share with us names of few democratic countries, just few out of the many vocal, that have achieve ethnic equality, by being “sensitive to the grievances of their diverse social groups” so we can aim to emulate them.

    Aman: always there are two sides for every story. All the poor, the weak, the small third-world countries can’t be wrong all the time. You are free when you are left alone to mind your own business; which poor countries are not. You are as peaceful, as stable, as prosperous and as democratic…..as big powers want you to be. And there is no small, poor, weak third world country that is not pushed around by global powers. None. Wodehanka.

    Semere Tesfai

    • Music Novice

      Greetings Semere T.,

      You sound to me intentionally or unintentionally confused.

      Most of what you wrote is devoted to others rather than to Eritrea. For example, you blame the West and also bring the Oromo cause in Ethiopia into the mix.

      So when are you going to discuss about Eritrea? The West have to do what is beneficial to their ruling elite. But when does blaming the West stop and taking responsibility for ones action start?

      The EPLF/PFDJ was received with a lot of enthusiasm and good will but this was squandered with arrogance

      • Semere Tesfai

        Selam Music Novice

        If I’m confused, which I’m not, you’re not helping.

        – If, all things being equal/same, “The system run by the EPLF/PFDJ between 1991 and 2000 was relatively fair” it could only be because the same PFDJ leaders were dubbed ” the new breed of Africa leaders” buy the megaphone of the corporate media that you trust. If there is any thing that changed later, it could only be the policy of the global powers – because nothing changed in the EPLF/GoE/PFDJ land. That’s a fact you can’t deny.

        – I don’t defend the PFDJ government; I don’t shy-away from criticizing the PFDJ government. I never did and I never will. I don’t deny the fact that the PFDJ government has done its share of mistakes. I don’t have any problem demanding explanation and demanding accountability from the PFDJ government.

        – But I also demand from people like you “the not confused” to come up with an alternative idea when you criticize the PFDJ government. I demand an explanation from you: if the political direction of the opposition is right, if the PFDJ government leaders are as awful as you portray them to be, then why is the PFDJ government still in power; and why is the opposition camp in disarray?

        Now, visionary that you are, tell me, what would you do differently that the PFDJ regime fail to do?

        – Whining, complaining, blaming, trashing those disagree with you……is neither a vision nor a solution that would advance your cause and mine. Now, please impress me with your bright idea.

        Semere Tesfai

        • Music Novice

          Greetings Semere T.,

          You sound as if you are reading from a prepared script to the questions as I asked.

          You are not addressing the issues I raised. You are going on a tangent and are repeating the dogmatic slogan of the conspiracy by the West. You need a thinking and problem solving approach.

          Answering all the things you said in your post not related to my original post is a distraction and a waste of time.

          I repeat: When are you going to discuss the various issues facing Eritrea? The West have to do what is beneficial to their ruling elites, but when does blaming the West stop and taking responsibility for ones own actions start?

          You said:

          “”The system run by the EPLF/PFDJ between 1991 and 2000 was relatively fair” it could only be because the same PFDJ leaders were dubbed ” the new breed of Africa leaders” buy the megaphone of the corporate media that you trust.”

          I do not know about you, but I do not need to trust either “the corporate media” of the West or the dogmatic nonsense you repeat ad infinitum to draw a conclusion, because I was there.

          As to a solution, the best one is the simplest. For the context of Eritrea, it is best to reform and fix what is already on the ground. But, before embarking on a solution, one must admit the existence of self-inflicted problems.

  • Music Novice

    Greetings Amanuel,

    You said: “This author has studied the Tunisian Democratic Transition government and found an analogical reasoning to our reality in order to facilitate a soft landing to our political crises.”

    I do not think the Tunisian analogy can be used for the current Eritrean situation. In Tunisia, there is relative ethnic and religious homogeneity. In addition, overthrowing the guerrilla movement based incumbent in Eritrea will not be easy. The EPLF/PFDJ system is just starting.

    Furthermore, assuming the current Eritrean government will go, who is going to take over? Those in the opposition are not fit for purpose.

    • V.F.

      Hi MN. What a disappointing comment from you! For one thing, homogeneity doesn’t necessarily lead to success. Somalia, Libya, Iraq, even Egypt to a great extent are almost entirely homogenous ethnically, culturally, and religiously. But you know their status quo. Eritrea’s diversity, in my opinion, will never be a deterrent for a democratic system. The people there have lived in harmony for millennia, intermarrying, trading, and in occasion fighting and warding off common enemies.

      I think you are being overly cynical when you refer to everyone in the opposition as Dinosaurs. There are many capable individuals if not organizations, within and outside the country. When you refer to the current GOE as ‘may not be great’, that is quite insulting to our collective intelligence. You should be honest with yourself and say that the current GOE will go down as the worst regimes in the history of man kind, period. What could be much worse?

      The quartet of civic organizations in Tunisia could be a great model for us too. The opposition are dysfunctional, nothing more nothing less. So having independent civic organizations with no political mandate can bring a lot of the opposition together and have them work towards a common goal. Medrek seems to have such a mandate on paper and they do have some prominent individuals.

      The only thing Amanuel Hidrat is optimistic about is the fall of the current regime in the foreseeable future. That to me is where the debate should be. Everything else AH said is very plausible. We need not replicate the Tunisian situation as a carbon copy but something to that effect. Wedi Vacaro was a unifying figure. Perhaps a prominent individual of great stature might bring the people together. Another indeterminate variable we have is Ethiopia. That coupled with how we bring down IA and PFDJ is where the debate should be.

      • Music Novice

        Greetings V.F.,

        You said: “For one thing, homogeneity doesn’t necessarily lead to success.”

        But, will its absence bring success?

        By the way, Libya and Somalia are very tribal and Iraq is ethnically and religiously divided. In Egypt, it was the Muslim Brotherhood Mafia that got too greedy and impatient to impose their version of fascism.

        By the way, good luck with your optimism.

  • Kokhob Selam

    Dear Amanuel,
    as usual saying it loud and to the point. Thank you.

  • dawit

    Dear Mr. Amanuel,
    You have not moved an inch from your all time position of “Demolishing or Weeding out PFDJ” from Eritrea. The so called “Eritrean Civil Societies”, most of them have soiled or stained their hand by allying themselves with Ethiopian dictators and have lost credibility with the vast majority of the Eritrean people to be trusted. Your assumption or wish that the PFDJ rule in Eritrea will collapse is far from the truth. PFDJ government is consolidating its internal and external policies, especially among the youth who are shouldering their responsibilities of nation building and true democracy is being implemented at the grassroots level and the transition of full fledge democracy in the country will emerge under PFDJ leadership, sooner than your pessimistic assessment. Eritrea does not need to import Tunisian, Ethiopian, Burkina Faso, Libyan models or any foreign experience. Eritreans will arrive at true democracy of a government by the people for the people based on their own experiences. Do not base you assessment of conditions in Eritrea, by the faulty experience of few who abandoned their duties and responsibilities to their country by running away to refugee camps.
    Awet-Nhafash!

    • Aron

      Dear Dawit,
      Your cruelty is getting worse by the day now you’re in par with PFDJ gangs. You said democracy is being built by PFDJ at grass root level in collaboration with the youth in eritrea. You shouldn’t insult the youth and abuse them. They get enough from yours truly Demi God president. You’re not only cruel but also predictable and boring. You know half of the young is wasting away in fortresses and the other half running away. The Lucky ones are making it and you know where the unlucky ones are.

      I for one don’t support weeding out everything PFDJ but it has to be replaced by a government that believes in things like the supremacy of law and constitution, budgets, independent judicial system and so forth.

      You seem well read. How could you support a one man government that killed and arbitrarily arrested all the vanguard patriots who fought for their country independence their whole life, a one man government who shelved our constitution, a one man government who couldn’t find a war that didn’t like, who is responsible for mass migration and who turned Eritrea from once a promising young nation with very ethical and industrious people to a pariah and laughing stock. How could you, don’t you have any conscience, sir.

      Our foreign policy is a one man craziness that earned Eritrea sanctions and isolation. How could you support and defend the indefensible, sir. You Could say a lot of things about the opposition. But the opposition is not in charge of the country. The opposition couldn’t not even oppose from their country they have to convene in neighboring countries and you know why.

      The man even went as far as denying patriots burial plot. Shame on you to give a total support.
      Well I wish you happy new year anyway.

      • Semere Andom

        Hi aron:

        After debating dawit for couple of years now, after reading his debates with many here,I came to know that dawit supports PFDJ not because of lack of inforamtion and ignorance but because of his sadism, He enjos this:

        http://assenna.com/eritrean-gospel-singer-helen-berhane-was-tortured-for-her-beliefs-now-shes-speaking-up/

        • Aron

          Hi Sem,
          Yes, her story is all too common. Thanks for the link. And I agree Dawit knows fully well crimes against humanity is being committed and for some reason he is a supporter.

  • AOsman

    Dear Amanuel,

    Could you please provide the link for the call and the internal-working memorandum by EFND so we can read that as well.

    Thanks
    AOsman

    Welcome back Hayat

  • Hayat Adem

    Dear all and everyone @Awate:
    I have been missing you. It has been long, long three months of cold stay away from the house. I’m back. I hope my favorite Awatistas are all here. I’ve been talking to one Awatista offline but hasn’t followed much about many of the developments. So, pretty much, I will start of easy and slow from here and now, and keep on expanding my presence. I hope I am re-welcomed to the house.
    This is a nice read from Emma and the practical aspects of the article are worth-noting.
    Hayat

    • Abyssinia

      Hi Hayat,
      So delighted to see you are back. I look forward to reading
      you. Always your fan. check out my posts too ( I have been mentioning
      you in my posts). Maybe you can start here. Mr. Cohen has said in his
      today’s post the following: “Hey, all you Abyssinians out there. While you are wasting time squabbling with each other and not talking to each other, the governments of the Arabian Peninsula are eating your lunch.” For the entire content, check out his blog.

      • Abi

        Hey Abyssinia
        What else is new? Worry about our dinner. We let the Arabs eat our breakfast and lunch .we have been eating each other for a while now. It’s a sad situation.

      • Hayat Adem

        Hi
        Abyssinia,
        The longing was likewise, both ways. I will read Cohen. But on the one you quote above, he is damn right. The guy has some moments of exactness like that of the proverbial broken clock.
        Thanks,
        Hayat

    • Semere Andom

      Dear Hayat:
      Welcome back

    • Fanti Ghana

      Hello Hayata,
      Welcome home Princess; what a gift!

      • Hayat Adem

        And the Saint Fanti,
        how many pairs of shoes did pass the bridge while I was away? The point is I care less even if the keep on coming. Your enough for every piece of human being. When I think of you, I think of the natural environment. We should keep you pure and pollution-free.
        Hayat

        • Saleh Johar

          Hay at,
          The price of shoes has gone up, a crisis of shoe shortage in China and Fanti is still buying all the production. His motto: every Ethiopian should have three pairs of shoes. I hope he concludes his buying spree 🙂

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello Memhir,
            I was so determined about convincing myself to not fall in love again, I didn’t even bother to check what was happening to the price of shoes these days. By the way, are you coming to terms with your confusion about the capital city of Kenya is indeed Nairobi and not Addis Ababa?

          • Hayat Adem

            Fanti,
            Also, Your last line on pointing about confusing Addis for Nairobi on the part of SGJ is hillarious. Hayat

          • V.F.

            Hi Fanti, it is early winter. You need to wait until spring to fall in love.

          • Saleh Johar

            Fanti,
            You mean they already dissolved the union? I though they united and made Nairobi the union capital!

        • Semere Andom

          Hi Hayat:
          It took Hayat to bring ST. Fanti of Ethiopia to comeback. After you left he was not around much then he disappeared. Double gift!! We got 50% male and 50% returnees to the forum:-)

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello SA,
            My pain threshold was never tested as it did by her absence, but I tried to cover it up by working at home and sleeping at work. Your solution, going on writing spree, may have been a better solution though.

    • Kokhob Selam

      Dear Hayata,
      well come home. what a wonderful new year is it!

      • Hayat Adem

        Kokobay,
        Once you are part of the lighting army, you can never be part of the darkening army. With you, we’ll always keep on shining from the hill.
        Hayat

    • Music Novice

      Greetings Hayat,

      Welcome back.

      • Hayat Adem

        Thanks a lot MN. It will be great again to be interacting with great thinkers such as yourself.
        Hayat

    • Peace!

      Hi Hayata,

      Welcome Back! Nothing new hayata except that TPLF is no longer a major player in the opposition camp as the oppressed Oromo and Amhara are uprising to bring the brutality and land grabbing to an end.

      regards

      • Hayat Adem

        Peace, you’ve still locked horns with the tplf thing, ha, the oromo are big enough to take care of themselves, so are the amhara. your worries are misplaced, as usual. but thanks for welcoming me.
        Hayat

        • Peace!

          Dear Hayat,

          Actually I was trying to give you a heads up, but again all lives matter that there is no such misplaced worry specially when it comes to both Eritrean and Ethiopian people as stable Ethiopia is good for Eritrea and vice versa, and I don’t think the good wishing Ethiopians are here at awate because their worries are often utterly misplaced, but rather perhaps they see things in a larger context.

          Happy New Year

          regards

    • PTS

      Hayat,
      If there is a topic that interests you, plough right into it.
      Welcome back!

      • Hayat Adem

        Yes PTS, that is what I’ll do but let me take a couple of days feeling the interests and the emotions so that I don’t speak irrelevance and out of tune. Thanks, Hayat

    • tes

      Dear Hayat Adem,

      Not to miss saying “Welcome back warmly”.

      Updates:

      1. From a misunderstanding that arose from Saay7’s announcement of reassignment from AT editorial board where your best friend Nitricc understood it as if saay7 left awate.com, Nitricc lost his direction.

      2. tes and Abi are in a heavy exchange proxy-war.

      3. Ted is almost gone now mad at the “weed’em camp”.

      4. Peace!; the Amiche now has been fully axposed why he is after TPLF like all Amiches.

      5. Amanuel Hidrat is unable to pursue his debate with saay7. Thanks now he has something on table. Will he engage with saay7? We will see.

      6. SGJ was kicked from the Nairobi meetings. Thanks to Semere Andom, both sides (the kicked and the kickers) were relapsed.

      7. Amanule Biedemarian, Diyakon Aganinti, enjoyed a short lived festa. Have you visited the TNs and madotes,

      8. Semere Andom is in his high days. Gracing the room with his powerful pen.

      9. Fanti Ghana is almost fasting, almost missed like you.

      10. Eyob Medhanie, aha, not in his mood after the Orromo demonstration.

      11. Horizon is in his mood as usual.

      12. Kokhob Selam is most of the time bitter with Mahmud Saleh. I don’t know when they will reconcile? Can you do something?

      13. Mahmud Saleh is doing good though Ted is pushing him to the other end.

      14. saay7, the immortal, he is saay7 as usual. I am afraid though he might not have a good fight as usual with you.

      15. Hope, haha, you will read him. In fact more confused than before.

      16. Kim Hanna is around. It is good.

      17. There is a new year prayer led by Semere Andom. This month long prayer is directed to aklilu zere, the library. I hope you will join us in our prayer.

      18. V.F, Mizaan, too much nick-name. I think he has started to read Eritrean history right now thanks to Ambassader Andebrhan. Before he is Mizaan, always nagging.

      19. Selam is around but banned from here. She might come as she did a good and commendable job in defending saay7. Hope joined here but he was so ambivalent.

      20. L.T., I don’t know. but now he is talking something.

      21. T..T., in his high days.

      22. Oh Abyssinia, you might know him.

      23. tes, aha, I think is still mad at you. He will continue fighting but some how cooler.

      24. Sorry, the list is incomplete with dawit. But these days he is busy collecting signatures for a petition that tries to make a reason for the Eritrean refugees crisis as “economical one”.

      25., hold on, Aman is still there.

      26. Indeed haile TG is missing but sure he is around.

      Abi, please continue the list.

      27.

      28.

      29.

      30.

      3…

      Welcome back again.

      tes

      • Abi

        Hi Tes
        Ok I will continue the list.
        27. Tes successfully reincarnated himself.
        28. tes is still hopelessly fara.

      • Ted

        Hi tes, i could say you are wrong in your characterization, but it works for the person you addressing it to. If Amechies are the one standing between you/TPLF and Eritreans, it can be easly concluded Eritreans are all Amechie. I don’t think the good lady has appetite for Eritrean politics no more that she might be off her high horse to preach us about the almighty TPLF.

        • Hayat Adem

          Dear Ted,
          You haven’t evolved an inch. Well, I’m all appetite for Eritrean politics. If your worry is that I am here to spoil your fixation with TPLF, it’s a worry misplaced, go ahead and do whatever you want to do with the TPLF and I won’t stand on your way. I leave TPLF to you, but I don’t when it comes to PFDJ. So, we have no collision here. Thanks for unwelcoming me. Hayat

      • V.F.

        tes, correction:

        18. VF is reading Andeberhan Welde Giorigis’s (AW) book after the Nairobi meeting to see if AW is up to something good. I know my Eritrean history my friend. Long before you graduated from elementary school. Remember Tom Killion? Ah? He was my prof at UoA. I don’t know the PFDJ personalities the way you do because I never worked with them but you can’t accuse me of not knowing Eritrean history. Ask me? Go ahead try…

        It is a good list though overall.

        27. meleyo lebash Abi…the crush has transformed to infatuation for Eritrea. He has been granted full citizenship by none other that talaku guad isaias afwerki. He is a PFDJ spy. I have always suspected him.

        • Abi

          VF
          27 is filled.
          30. VF is still applying for the umpteenth time for adoption. He could not find a taker. He is desperate. Poor soul.
          “Ankuwanku yikefetlachwal , Teyqu tagegnumalachihu” (the good book)
          31.VF kept his nick for more than 3 weeks. One for the record books.

      • Hayat Adem

        Tes, that is so lovely a summary of people and their events. i feel you are even more energized than when i left the forum. I need to see that energy though sometimes there will be a possible risk of being misdirected at me.

        Thanks a lot,
        Hayat

    • Yoty Topy

      Hi Hayat,

      Welcome back.

      • Hayat Adem

        Thank you, YT.
        The last impression I had with me was the conversations that was running between you and the great Amde on the nature’s excess, waste and efficiency with regard to a quality product (identical and fraternal). I was so taken away by that depth of exchange. Those are some of the things I feel missing.
        hayat

        • Saleh Johar

          Hello Hayat,
          Welcome back. I hope you paid the violation ticket –absence without permission is a grave offense 🙂

          Welcome back

          • Hayat Adem

            Gashe Saleh,
            It feels good to be back. And Any price worths it. Ticket is cleared including the late clearance penalities. Also a goat is in order to purify my sin on ghedli.
            Awet n’Hafash¡

        • Yoty Topy

          Hi Hayat,

          As they saying goes: ” Man is judged by the company he keeps”. I hope to learn a lot from distinct minds such as yourself and Ato. Amde. So again, welcome back!

          I hope 2016 will be the year when we will be blessed with your editorial inputs Hayat.

          Happy New Year to Hayat and the rest of Awate readers:)

    • Amde

      Dear Hayat,

      Welcome back. A Nice New Year Treat indeed!!

      • Hayat Adem

        Hey Amde,
        I was trying the email you gave me but my messages kept on bouncing back. It really feels good to know you are here.
        hayat

        • Amde

          Dear Hayat,

          I am sorry you had a hard time with it. I am a little mystified, I tried it again and it works. It should be straightforward: amde@mail.com

          In any case, great to see you back. I tend to lurk mostly – my work just doesn’t give me the opportunity to follow every conversation so I tend to read up after a long day of work. Just as well I think – better to listen/read and learn.

          Amde

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello Amde,
            Amazing. I feel bad for not saying something at the time but I remember you had it as Amde@mail.com. I figure she will see that it is missing a ‘g’, but now that I think about it, the culprit could also be the upper case “A” and or the missing ‘hot’ as in amde@hotmail.com although ‘hot’ is too hot to miss.

          • Abi

            Fanti melti
            Who is too hot to Miss? I say nobody.

          • Amde

            Ah Dottore,

            But it is not missing a “g” nor is the capitalization of “A” relevant. It is not a gmail, or hotmail account.

            Amde

    • Kim Hanna

      Selam Hayat Adem,
      .
      I am so glad you are back to participate at this forum. The unvarnished straight forward truth needs to shine in so many areas.
      .
      EJ EYENESAHU, I welcome you back.
      .
      Mr. K.H

      • Abi

        Hey Kim
        Sine sirat giber
        Hayatin ej atnesam. Ej mesTet gin yichalal.

        “Atse Tewodros endet tewaredu?
        Yeshewan mekuwanint ej nestew hedu. “

        • Kim Hanna

          Selam Abi,
          Well, what can I tell you, I thought I covered it when I said sementegnaw shi is around the corner. I thought I was acting as a perfect gentleman.
          .
          Mr. K.H

      • Hayat Adem

        Dearest Kim,
        There are a lot of illnesses shared around and we can’t cure them by pretending. It is my intention to be straight shooter at historical lies, pretentious prides and invented petty polarities.
        Hayat

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