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National Council Enters Its Fourth Day of Deliberations

The National Council (NC) of the Eritrean National Council for Democratic Change (ENCDC) has been convening in the city of Bishoftu in the Oromia State of Ethiopia, since Monday, December 15, 2014.

The emergency meeting of the NC was called to address procedural impasse that made the ENCDC inactive since its formation in Hawassa three years ago.

The NC elected a secretariat to administer meeting under the leadership of Haj Abdenur, member of leadership of the Eritrean People’s Movement.

Today, Wednesday, the third day of the meeting, the council leadership and the executive committee submitted their resignation to pave the way for the election of a care-taker committee to oversee the institution’s activities until second congress planned for early summer of 2015.

On Thursday, the meeting is expected to discuss the status of Preparatory committee that was setup earlier this year. It is also expected to either endorse the preparatory committee or make some changes in its membership.

If the NC sticks to schedule, the meeting is expected to be adjourned by Friday night.

 

 

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  • Hope

    “ሰደህኤ ምስ ባይቶ ይኹን ምስ ዝኾነ ናይ ለውጢ ሓይሊ፡ ሓቢርካ ንምስራሕ ዘቕርቦ ምርጫ ሰፊሕ እዩ። ነቲ ኣቐዲመ ዝጠቐስኩዎ መጸዋዕታ ኣብ ዘቕረበሉ ኣጋጣሚ “ሰዲህኤ፡ ነቲ ኣብ ቀዳማይ ጕባኤኡ ዘጽደቖ ተመሳሳሊ ፖለቲካዊ መደብ ዕዮ ዘለዎም ውድባት ክሰምሩ፣ ናብ ፍጹም ምጽንባር ክበጽሑ ዘይክእሉ ውድባት ድማ ብዝተሓተ ነጥብታት ተሰማሚዖም ኣብ ትሕቲ ሓደ ጽላል ሓቢሮም ክሰርሑን ዘለዎ እምነት ደጊሙ ብምዝኽኻር፡ ኵሎም ተቓወምቲ ንተግባራውነቱ ብዕቱብ ክሰርሑ ጸዊዑ።” ዝበሎ ከዓ ናይዚ ኣብነት እዩ። እዚ ኣበሃህላ’ዚ ከም ዘመልክቶ፡ ሃገራዊ ባይቶ ነቲ ዝጻወተሉ ዘሎ ፖለቲካዊ ሜዳ ካብዚ ንላዕሊ ከስፈሖ ምርጫኡ ተዘይኮይኑ፡ ኣብታ ዘለዋ ሜዳኡ ኮይኑ፡ ንገዛእ ርእሱ ውድብ ድዩ ግንባር ሰይሙ፡ ምስ ሰደህኤን ካልኦት ኣብ ባይቶ ዘየለዉ ናይ ለውጢ ሓይልታትን ዘስርሕ ዝሰፈሐ ፖለቲካዊ ሜዳ ምምድማድ’ውን ከም ዝከኣል ኣመልኪቱ ኣሎ። እቲ ሓደ እዋን ኣብ መንጎ ባይቶን ካብ ባይቶ ወጻኢ ዘለዉ ኣካላትን ዝነበረ ናይ ምንጽጻግን መንፈስ ተዳኺሙ፡ ባይቶ’ውን ካብቲ “ኣነ እየ በይናዊ ወኪል ተቓውሞ ኤርትራ” ዝብሎ ዝነበረ ናብ ልቡ ተመሊሱ፡ እቲ ናይ ምድልላይን ምጽውዋዕን ስምዒት እንዳዓበየ ምኻዱ ተስፋ ዝህብ’ዩ። እንተኾነ ብሓቀኛን ምዕሩይን ዘተ ኣቢልካ መእሰሪ ክሳብ ዘይተገብረሉ ናይ ለውጢ መሳርሒ ክኸውን ከም ዘይክእል ክሰሓት ኣይግበኦን።”
    Source: Harnnet.Org/EPDP Articles .
    SAAY and SGJ:
    The above issue was the one,which forced me to “challenge” your Article.
    You see where I am coming from?
    We need to be realistic, honest and practical.

  • Deogane

    You must be old school. Why do you discourage Tesfabirhan taking part in a discussion that matters match to him?. In fact he is a bright and brave guy. I don’t think he will be phased by your discouraging comment. By the way, I think he is studying in France, that explains something.

  • Saleh Johar

    Dear Hope,

    I think I would like to stop you before you dig your hole so deep–I don’t want you to fall in it because I love you so much.

    You have been provoking me repeatedly but I chose to reply once you get down from the judge’s bench and sit with me. Good. I am assuming you took off you left the gavel in its place.

    You know very well that for many years, deqi mezamertkha were relentlessly defaming me using the “Ali Salim” card. However I explained, they were not willing to listen. The worked the rumor mill non-stop. I excused them and rarely replied. Now you see to be on round two of the old gossip mill and this time my lawyer told me I should not take any more crap. I am heeding his advise.

    My advice to you: in the future, do not write or say something you cannot defend with proof. For example, this morning you made this statement:

    “SGJ knows what he is doing besides being an under cover Engine or Advisor of the NC/ENDC as witnessed by his preferential treatment of the Group and considering his under cover or coded campaign against other Groups .”

    Me undercover? You are undercover Hope. For example, you sneak to Ethiopia, as you said, and you vilify others who go there. You use nickname. Your position about the regime is not clear, clearly undercover. My undercover? What part of my position is undercover. I am sure everybody here knows you are on the usual vilification campaign, part 2, I will not even hammer it any more.

    Can you prove I am the engine and the adviser? What is the coded message? How did you decode the codded message? How did you discover if I am undercover? Hope, have respect for the people here. They have brains, you know!

    Now for your comment of two nights ago, I lost track of how many times lekhifkani, I am amused by you and your friends.

    Please stop acting like an inquisitor, bombarding people with a hundred questions at a time. Be specific and learn to summarize your question.

    1. You just heard of Reporting Plus, a few days ago. So don’t use it retroactively.

    2. Anyone has a favorite–I have favorites among the justice camp, the ones with integrity, the resilient, but not the wishy-washy. So, what is your problem? If you have a specific question, shoot and I will tell you if you ask a specific question.

    3. Animosity? So you view criticism of a political group as animosity? You need to explain that.

    4. I have no animosity with anyone, and if you do not agree with anything I wrote, challenge me. Do not just lazily characterize it as “animosity” because that shows you cannot explain or defend your bias.

    5. Your comments is full of quotes. Who are you quoting? Stuff you heard in a gossip session? Written by me? Is it your view and if so, can you defend it?

    6. You wrote: ” including your ‘Life Long Best Friend and Colleague” to the extent of “totally and successfully” tarnishing his name and fame and to the extent of being “hated” by his own people-the Lowlanders and Kerenites. This is based on the Reporting Plus you and your Website have done few yrs ago.”

    You see Hope, I exactly know where you are coming from. You didn’t have the courage to mention Woldeyesus Ammar (sorry Wolde, I didn’t bring this) but you are wrong. Your basis is gossip and defamation. You are still fanning the sickness of the last few years. You can’t prove any of that. But I will help you. I have written defending Wolde regarding the sick accusation you are mentioning, and if you didn’t see that, then your sources is gossip, you do not read or verify. Just take whatever you hear in a gossip session. I wrote about Wolde, when most of those who pretend to be his friends has little to say. I had stated publicly that I do not buy any of the accusations against him from anyone. I will not give you a link, go read all my Negarit editions and find it on your own.

    And you have the temerity to state that your accusation of me is based on facts you read? Show me those facts–not coffee shop and gossip facts. enclosing a sentence in quotation marks doesn’t make it true. They are your quotations, quoting your perception, your thoughts, your imagination and creativity in defaming me, wild claims you didn’t bother to cross check.

    7. Can you tell me those “some who assumed” Ali Salim was me using a pen name? And what did they do when they discovered Ali Salim, (Yonus Hussein), was a member of their group and they know him way before me, way before he started to write at awate? What did they do? Just carry on as if nothing happened? As if they were not campaigning and tarnishing my name “Saleh hates Christians” and “Saleh Hates Deqi Kebessa” for years? Who is most of you who apologized, certainly you didn’t. By the way, I do not want an apology, I want you and your group to rectify the evil campaign you waged. If you didn’t? Would you expect me to consider anyone who was involved in that cowardly campaign a man of honor and integrity? Would you expect me to respect of trust the cowards? What would you do if you were in my place and went through all the injuries I went through? How does it work for you asking a victim to apologize his victimizer?

    8. I an entity or a person is doing nothing what are you accusing me of boycotting? Why do you try to make the victim feel guilty? But the cowards and my shameless victimizers, I will be laying if I tell you I have any respect for them, who respects gossipers and bigots who cannot own their mistake? You are acting as if I was not hit from the back with a dagger and you have the audacity to make it look as if I had the dagger? Talk to your friends if you have any sense of fairness, but leave me alone dear, stop taunting me because I really do not have the time for such nonsense. As all your cousins here and they will tell you I have no time for such gossip. And next time you have the urge to attack “undercover” with my name, please look at the mirror first.

    8. Your points about reconciliation is outright blackmailing. You have to understand that even reconciliation requires that a liar is called a liar and a back stabber is called just that. Reconciliation is about telling the truth, correcting the path. In this case, I am the victim and I will say anything I feel like saying in the open.

    The rest of your comments are just fillers, they are irrelevant. You seem to have planned
    to confuse the main issue by loading it with irrelevancies.

    Finally, you concluded by ” God/Allah bless us all!” Please remember that God and Allah is one whether you put backslash or not. We do not have two deities, a God and an Allah. One would do.

    This should be enough it is forced by your provocation; I am not interested in such discourse.

    Cheers

  • saay7

    Gud:

    Well, ok, then. Mahmuday, one more for you. It’s ghedli romantic day, lebela libel. Here’s Fihira and why he wears a hat now;

    http://youtu.be/p-p5r_OpS9g

    • Mahmud Saleh

      wo Saleh Hoe’s First cousin;
      You served us, the ghedli romantics, so lavishly; it’s only a matter of our customs to reciprocate the gesture, but no guarantee that the following songs don’t contain ghedli stuff, just a warning.

      1. In the following song, what’s wrong with the percussion? Was it in the programing of the drum machine or the cassette was corrupted? Bezi agaTami, I have to tell you that Tekle Hiwket is my guitar hero, second to Aboy Tewelde Redda, the undisputed father of Eritrean guitar. But Tekle is more advanced in his skills, he could cover both rhythm and lead roles and could play different genres. Additionally, bezi agaTami, I have to confess that these guys (veteran artists) played an important role in making the rather challenging life of tegadelti more bearable. I thank them for their service.
      The following is the one I am talking about, a standard Tigrigna tempo albeit awkwardly recorded.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOVz0PjDoIc&list=PLHofaq34ZBGcD7g2KQIG54JlaQozliMpf&index=1

      2. The following is his classical hit, again playing the role of rhythm and lead guitars; I don’t think there is overdubbing, but you are the expert. Sadly, after independence, I have seen him only doing an interview but no new productions.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zt9VDv5d6uk&list=PLHofaq34ZBGcD7g2KQIG54JlaQozliMpf&index=5

      • saay7

        Mahmuday:

        If you love Tekle Hiwket I am going to take a wild guess and say that you, at one point, we’re learning guitar and you practiced to his songs? Or maybe Tsegai Berakis?

        I think many would agree that he is one of our best guitarists but few note that the man could sing: he could hold a note forever, he had decent range. My two favorites are his covers of Osmans “ab ketema mitsiwae” and memher Tukabos “kem kokhob ab semay…” Check out the latter here: I think it’s better than the original:

        saay

        http://youtu.be/SxsjtBnWgPM

        • Mahmud Saleh

          MarHaba SAAY;
          My kids think I am a good guitarist, but I have not yet impressed my wife, it annoys her; anyway, Tecle is a gifted musician. But he’s got a beautiful identifiable natural voice, with quite wide range. Just see how he things memhr Tukabos song, he did it really well, I think it’s a difficult song (very low to really high); anyway, the following are my all time artists who did not know they could sing before necessity forced them.
          1. Jimi Hendrix= started as a rhythm guitarist to lead guitar and suddenly got fed up with band leaders who would not appreciate his talent and would boss him around. Well, he may not be a good vocalist but he covered his vocal weakness with his wild stage dramas and his skills on the guitar. Still remains #1 guitarist, forty four years after his death.
          2. teg/Ogbagabr: he was my platoon mate in taElim; he started with writing poems and tinkering with tins as percussion, writing songs and giving them, but suddenly jumped onto the stage, he was a rebel artist who would not take authorities BS. He continued as a solo (most of his songs are solo with his Kirar) until his death in SalaHta Warar (1983).
          3. Wedi Tukabo; I am sure he father taught him how to manipulate his low voice, he’s become good. Keep it up WT.
          4. Eric Clapton: long before becoming a singer, he was known as the “God” for his guitar skills, but eventually started his own singing carrier.
          5. MaHmoud Ahmed: Horizon can say something, but I am told he was made to enter singing inadvertently.

  • Abraham Hanibal

    I hope this meeting of the National Council of the ENCDC has asked itself the very important question: why the ENCDC, or the opposition in general, has not yet succeeded in galvanizing the Eritrean People to its ranks and what has to be done to encourage an enhanced participation of the People in the struggle for democracy and justice.

    • Mahmud Saleh

      Abraham;
      Take it with the w/end spirit (all good up here)
      Well, the weakness of organized opposition starts from lack of courage to raise that same question (Thank you for the courage; I never miss your inputs and I find them quite superb). Usually, I see organized opposition hitchhiking PFDJ weaknesses. Well, your enemy weaknesses are only good if you exploit them. To exploit them you need to be smarter than them. You have to be faster at snatching those weakness than PFDJ plastering them.
      – “We have economic problems because the world has ganged upon us.”
      – “National service has run this long because Wayane is occupying our land.”
      – We are to be trusted because, ‘look at the rest, they spent years in fighting each other than fighting us; do you want them running your government? Do you think they could ensure the peace we are keeping when they could not make peace among themselves? Do you think you are their priority? If so why could not they overcome procedural issues and power sharing, a thing that should have been left for you? That’s why we tell you democracy does not work here; that’s why our Kbur President said ‘ Those who dream for democracy need to relocate to the moon.’ Doesn’t that make sense”
      – ” We may good at hauling people to Eila-Ero, but we are good too on building roads, dams, education, wiping out malaria, meeting un MDGS, We graduate doctors, engineers, we aim for reaching marginalized country side…”
      Those are some of PFDJ’s plastering devices. Unfortunately, the opposition lacks such devices. So far, it has not registered victories which could galvanize the mass, they have not devised smart ways of overcoming their internal shortcoming. But they have done so much that scares the doubters and confused to make them stick with the devil they know.
      Now, to be retAwi (judicious), my bad friend has come up with an answer that has consumed all ounce of his energy and MS of his time for the past month or so. SAAY says it even goes back to Semeres “work/assignment tour” to Roma where he came back badly shaped. Anyway, my bad friend, believes he has found a conclusive answer. He said it today on this respected forum in his reply to poor maHmuday’s desperate grappling with our time’s question: how can we galvanize the mass to accelerate PFDJ’s defeat?
      The answer MBF came up with is: “We can not. They can’t be won.” Well, I don’t agree. I know you don’t. So, the search is on.

      • Abraham Hanibal

        Selam Mahmud Saleh;
        It is is the People that can ultimately do the miracle, but for that to happen there is a need of a potent leadership. I agree with you that the opposition should rather focus on how to win the hearts and minds of the people, instead of just playing on blame game towards the PFDJ. They need to present an alternative to the people, so that we can say to the PFDJ tyranny that we’re capable of building double, tripple or quadruple of what you’re doing, and all this without having to send people to the dungeons.
        Regards

      • saay7

        MaHumuday:

        Wad Andom referenced an article I had written in 2002. In there I reference a song Wad Shiek had sang in 1999 right in the middle of the war to “teach us a lesson we will never forget”, Yinithamel, it was called. It had lyrics I badly misunderstood: “Cherot abet….” speaking of you know who. Anyway, it’s Saturday. And this is for you from Wed Shiek. I know where I was when it came out, and I was in much comfortable place than you. AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE TO ERITREA:

        saay

        http://youtu.be/l7hy4uHw2k8

        • Mahmud Saleh

          Ustaz Saleh;
          La Shukr Ala alwajb (no need to thank me for doing my duty) would be the stern quick answer of veterans. However, I am touched, thank you. It should go to our martyrs and maimed liberation veterans who are living in deplorable conditions in the nation and outside in refugee camps, disabled veterans from all nationalities, all liberation organizations and all faiths. People like me have little to complain about, and not so much to brag about, because you can hardly find in a Eritrea a family that doesn’t have the right to claim its share, although, luckily, bragging is not in the dictionary of veterans. Some people confuse PFDJ’s misuse of that epic journey for its own propaganda with the true nature of decent tegadelty; instead of holding it for what it’s which is stealing a struggle that has encompassed almost every family and which should be owned by all Eritreans, by disowning it, some tend to give PFDJ the liberty to exploit it to its maximum advantage. I am acutely aware that I have the responsibility to agitate folks reminding them not to repeat past mistakes of ምእንቲ መጎጎ ትሕለፍ ኣንጭዋ (letting the mouse pass lest not break the clay oven) which has been exemplified by crippling attitude of not criticizing the opposition. I don’t want this type of culture which is an exact copy-cat of PFDJ prevailing culture of Hade libi to be the defining essence of our opposition; if that’s the case, then I have the right to alert our people not to invest so much into it, and that other ways need to be explored. We have paid so much to settle for a less or equal to PFDJ.
          In a related topic, I want to let those who follow my postings to know that I have seen deficiencies in my blanket characterization of the opposition convening in Bishoftu; I have failed to recognize the evolution that has taken place in the opposition camp for the last few years, and efforts which have been made to accommodate different sectors and political tendencies. I spoke yesterday with Ustaz Saleh G, and we talked at length regarding the composition and efforts which have been made to narrow misunderstanding. I thank him; and I assure you that I will be cognizant of pitfalls which occasionally swallow us when we are off guarded due to our limitations, may be exacerbated by lingering perceptions which could be blamed on history.The core message, however, remains the same. While apologizing to the folks in Bishoftu, I encourage them to do their utmost to come up with a result worth the expectation. I pray they prove my original comment wrong. This could be a “make it or break it” moment for them. Stand up for the interest of your nation and people, try to focus on what’s doable, set aside historic grudges and rise to the occasion; own your agenda, show your country people you could do better than PFDJ. I personally care less who rules the country, but I care so much that it should be ruled justly.

        • Semere Andom

          Hi Abu Salah: let try before SGJ or Wad Haiget wake up,specially SGJ has been patient with me as he was with Hope and we he had it that Tigrayit is mutilated he will give earful, So I fill in the rest for Sheik Saleh Al-Asmarani 🙂

          ለጨሮት ዲብ ምግብና ዓለት
          ዎዲብ ሓረትና*
          ህታማ አፍሸልናሃ
          እምብል አልፋትሓ
          ዲብ ዒላ ዒሮ ደፈናሃ
          ኢንትሃርገት ዎኢንሰክብ
          ኢንትጋመ ክሉ ልብና ለኣብዩ ንኣብድዩ
          * I learned the meaning of this word for the first time last week in the TITL(Toronto Institute of Tigrayit Language), African Delight Restaurant. I know you are banned from this place but when MaHmuday comes to Toronto for our qedamayin hadnetawin gubae I will treat him for tea there. MaHmuday, it is an invitation 🙂

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Ya Abu Noah (aka semere መጭበርበሪ)m
            The invitation is accepted, but if our schedule (Nitrikay and myself) take us first to Ottawa, it doesn’t mean we have chosen Ottawa over Toronto (wink,wink). Your Tigrayet poem is rich with unadulterated words, get us some stanzas every now and then. By the way, I have read your long Hateta a couple of times, and I loved it. (Of course the first part, the second part? ኣይልከፍን። ግን ጸዋራት ምዃንና ትፈልጥ ኢኻ። (ቅሩብ ጉራ ክሕውስ እምበር ኣይተኻኣልካን።)

          • saay7

            iSemere:

            What is it that Mahmouday calls you: bad friend? You are bad, as in Dennis The Menace Bad.:)

            When I said “mel’ayo” I meant add the rest of Wadi Sheik’s lyrics. I didn’t mean you make up stuff. Qul Hua Allah tgbae deebka:)

            You know what this means? Now I am going to have to write his lyrics and it had nothing to do with Ella Ero, you terrible human being:)))))

            saay

        • Abraham Hanibal

          Thanks saay for the nostalgic songs; i guess the two white men sitting in the middle of the picture are those Soviet military advisers who were captured during the EPLF Nadew Ez offensive of 1988?

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Dear Abraham,
            Judging from the munition gears, it appears to me that this is an ELF tegadelti picture; or may be early to mid seventies EPLF tegadelti. The white couple don’t look the Russians; there were few shots available, and they were in military fatigues. Actually, they don’t resemble them . In the seventies, there were incidents in which mining surveyors were captured; they could also be journalists. But I can assure you the gears are not similar to eighties’ EPLF gears.

          • Abraham Hanibal

            Selam Mahmud;
            Thanks for the info, it must have been a wishful thinking from my side.))

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Ahlan Abraham;
            Nothing wrong with it, you’re fine buddy.

          • Abraham Hanibal

            Hi Mahmud,

            A search on the net gave this picture of the three Soviet advisers.

            http://www.eritrea-chat.com/eritrean-military-planning-that-out-maneuvered-enemy-military-elites/

          • Saleh Johar

            Wo Mahmouday,

            I saw this picture on facebook and I wrote lengthy comment. I can’t locate it so I have to do it here for all of you.

            You are right Mahmouday, The picture was taken in September 1975 in Adi Tekhlai, close to the escarpment and the trail to Adi Gebru. The two are Americans who were taken out of the Kagnew station by a squad under the leadership of Ephrem (I believe he is the one standing on the door, let, with a pistol). On the left is Hamid Mahmoud, badly cut on this picture, he was the most senior military commander in the region. The man talking to Hamid Mahmoud (long pants and long hair) is Kemal Mohammed Ali. I believe the man with short pants and looking at the camere is Mehari or Abraham. Behind him showing half a face is someone a friend insists it is me, I am not convinced 🙂

            The picture was taken by Gwynne Roberts and cut his journey short and immediately returned to London to report on it–he had to carry the 35mm films–God, we didn’t have satellite communication or flash drive–he had a large fil roll that he carried with him to London. And he did report the news about a month later, maybe three weeks! That was the one month old Breaking News of the time.

            The team of reporters included two other apart from Gwyenne : Nicholas Downey and a Frenchman named Jerome, I can’t remember his full name–we didn’t get along well and we always fought–he came to ma as an arrogant person. Okay, I was their translator and accompanied them across the Asmara-Keren road to Zager where we were taken to Petros Solomon and Ali Said Abdella–Jerome found a fighter girl who spoke French and he came to me and reprimanded me: look, the PLF have combatants who speak French unlike your backward ELF! The girl, I think, was Hanna Simon or someone with a similar last name. Two days later there was a battle to stop an Ethiopian troops convoy on its way from Asmara to relieve the Afabet Garrison which was losing it. It was a joint battle: ELF (from across the road) and PLF from Afdeyu , coordinator was the late Dr. Eyob from the hill of Afdeyu. Down in the valley one of the commanders was the late Mohammed Sais Barih. Funnily, I was escorting the Frenchman to the hill and I lost him in the chaos.
            Looking for him I ended behind a wall with Dr. Eyob–a few minutes later I was wounded just over my knee cap and in no time it swelled so much I had to cut my pants to relieve the pain. They took me down and on the way I met Mohammd Saeed Barih hit on his hands. We both went to Zagir and I stayed there for almost a week.

            Nostalgic, eh!

            Recently I located Gwynne Roberts and I am hoping to copies from his archive pictures–As the only translator then, I never left the shadow of Hamid Mahmoud who was their host. I had the chance to be in almost all the pictures, including many with Asmelash Goitom who was just released from hospital after suffering multiple bullet injuries. I remember him begging Hamid Mahmoud to give him fifty men so that he can start a battle somewhere. Why? So that the reporters can shot some live action and they took many pictures of him. Out of the tens of pictures, I have none, not even a single one. I am hoping to get some soon.

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Abu Adal;
            I can’t tell you how emotional got me. It’s amazing; the coincidence of your presence, your ability to recall those events and tell us about them in a vivid way (well, I forget that you are a writer, but honestly, detailed one), just thanks. You have captured one of the fine moments of Eritreans cooperating. BTW, I read Hamed Mahmoud farewell interview in farajat.com, retiring.
            I was pretty sure it was an ELF picture, but I wanted to err on the side of being cautious.I am familiar and still remember the evolution of both organization’s tegadelti military gears, fatigues and artifacts. I was expecting an input from one of you guys; I know Emma is busy, but where is KS?
            It’s history and you have become a witness to it. Long live the memory of those heroes! We will never forget them.

          • Kokhob Selam

            true, thanks God we have people like you and Abu Adal and all (enda awate) Eritrea is still lucky.

            Mahmud, I am really busy those days too, may be this is the only time that I couldn’t catch such important posts and articles. But sure even late I am reading them. TKS

          • Saleh Johar

            You know Mahmouday. What amazes me is that Hamid Mahmoud was probably the oldest, hardly thirty then. The rest of us were not even 20, including Ephrem who ventured to Asmara in broad daylight driving a donkey with his colleagues, entered the Kagnew station and brought the two Americans all the way to Adi Tekhlai. This were the days when Canberra planes bombed Hamassen day in and day out. Places like Adi Gebru were wiped out, literally. In Adi Werhi Seb, we found an old women, alone, digging the dirt in the burned space where her bombed Hedmo stood. She said she had buried some grain and wanted to feed her grandchildren. She was all covered in soot and went on digging. We stayed in Meqerka for a while, and survived on a ration of two potatoes a day, there was no salt around. We used to go to the mountains to find twigs, rarely enough, live Tahses bushes, to cook. There were two women (bless their heart) in Meqerka who would sit by the stove choking in smoke produced by wet tahses and dung, taking care of a pan of boiling water to cook for us in turns–the small pan takes only a dozen potatoes at the most. Tired, we squatted in line to have our potatoes cooked–if we had collected enough twigs or dry dung. That really invokes memories dear.Type your reply…

          • saay7

            Abu Adal:

            Ok, Wait, wait, wait…

            This is the stuff of Awate 8.0. We will have a page called Chronicles. And you and Mahmuday and all ELF/PLF/EPLF veterans tell us OUR stories.

            Also, I am making a strong appeal for Nitricc’s Hidmo page. I am cashing in my “favoritism” chip and he deserves it. He has been good.

            saay
            Saleh Abu Dunya Al Asmerani, leader of the Provisional Leadership of Awate.com

            PS: I am literally not ok. We are about to publish Gedab News. And Saleh and I are just finding something to talk about, anything, to deaden the pain.

          • Saleh Johar

            Yes Abu Dunya Al Asmerawi,
            What we have been talking about is so painful it invoked memories in me, I wanted to resort to the old tough but sweet days. Why did Eritreans go through all the struggle? To end up under the brutes? It is just becoming unbearable. Nothing deadens the pain.

          • haileTG

            Hi SGJ,

            Wow.. what an amazing recollection. The way I read you most of the time, you never fail nor fear to the bring the current suffering at every junction. That always amazes me. How did you heart survived all this? I.e. as a younger generation, it is easier to ponder if more hearts were lost in those years than limbs. And you always come as an exception to the rule. Eritrea salutes you sir.

          • AOsman

            SAAY,

            Awate 8.0 as new year gift, oh no!!!

            For some of us it is painful to change you know. Hopefully, January is not a month in the wilderness trying to find our compass.

            Regards
            AOsman

  • haileTG

    Selam Awatista,

    Few points to ponder about from what we have been reading recently:

    a) Are the “silent Majority” supporters or opposition?

    Well, according to SEMG, the Eritrean regime made about $73 million in 2% ove 4 years. Round that to $100 million. It works out roughly $25 million per year!! Till about 2001, the regime use pull something like $400million per year in remittances. There were upto 28 privately owned Forex businesses and it was estimated that about $90 million was circulating in their private niche market. (Refer Kibrom Dafla’s interview). On top of that the amount of investment ventures by Eritreans was simply overwhelming. Even the regime use to brag it had no where to put the excess $$. Where all all those people? In fact, $25 million per year is mostly settled by those trading in Africa and middle east. So, where is the silent majority supporter? Even all the PFDJista who demo on the street declaring that they would even pay 100% happily, are a bluff and may not be actually putting their money where their mouth is. So, are they “supporting” anything Eritrean be it regime or opposition?

    b) Playing into the regime’s saber rattling and divisive politics vis a vis Ethiopia to appease the Silent Majority:

    What is the evidence that such pleases the Silent majority? Since hundreds of thousands of Eritreans are in Ethiopia and they are related to most Eritreans, why would they see such an attitude as helpful? The people gov distinction doesn’t really amount to anything in real terms. We are not the US to say we are with the people but oppose your regime. So, such a hostile posture would obviously drive them away, as did from the regime that they had long forsaken.

    c) Should we appear to be against Ethiopia to please the Silent Majority:

    If the “people” were somewhat polled and understood to be against Ethiopia, should a responsible opposition struggle to enlighten them about the benefits of being the force of peace and harmony, even if that means one has to pay more for it to begin with and having to go the extra mile? Rather than join them simply to win their votes? Which is better principle or expedience, low start or early cheating?

    d) Why aren’t the hundreds of thousands new refugees not joining the opposition, is it because they disagree on its Ethiopia stand?

    Well, say your brother/sister just crossed to Ethiopia. What do they plan to do? Go abroad, get better settled, deal with the devastation of losing home, family, friends, basically their life, or they join opposition debates and apply for membership there. Perhaps going to hgdef embassy be necessitated by many needs requiring straightening like family re-union and picking up the pieces of their destroyed lives. So, how could this be a measure of their perception of opposition politics (even though many do join too)?

    e) Could there be a policy reform that can be done to reform a koboro junkies who spent decades in the western life and had ample time and opportunity to tell right from wrong? If the koboro junkies aren’t even paying their 2%, why are they determinant of the success of opposition or survival of the regime? The koboro junkies are so tiered out that they don’t even manage 200 petition for hgdef now days, I.e. they are politically spent force and have no intention of changing now, if they have spent life time in it. The youth have abandoned hgdef and that is brilliant. The koboro junkies would just hang their koboros and sigh thank Jesus when ERiTV soon airs that the regime of IA has been deposed. If they had any political influence, why is hgdef being kicked out of every venue and can’t hold koboro junkie’s night out by announcing location? They pose no challenge and are unlikely to change before Eritreans pay far more gruesome price in limb and life. They are delusional

    Conclusion:

    – Silent majority are really opposition, but need to be impressed. Regional hostility would turn them off even more.

    -New arrivals don’t usually join opposition, that is simply not a life priority art such difficult time of personal crisis. If that was their intent, they wouldn’t be new arrivals, they would have been street protesters in Eritrea.

    Regards

  • Tesfabirhan WR

    Dear Gud,

    My strategy towards PFDJites, Mahmudaites and saay7ists is to confuse. Only through confusion, I can create a new minded people.

    Are you free from my strategy? NO, not ALL! I have also a special objective for you; after confusion, I will throw you on a garbage can and burn you there as you are harmful and non-recyclable.

    hawka
    tes

  • Eyob Medhane

    Mehari,

    I like that…That is such a good idea…

    How about a little from Oromia…Beqoji is a nice place. Many great Olympic runners have come out there,,, Awi Injibara in Gojjam, there are Agaw people live there, who are related to Bilen and its time to have them reunited again… Oh forgot Dessie..I believe Isayas lived there once. I think anywhere his highness’ feet touches should belong to it…Arba Minch s very nice city..it would help to incorporate it with Eritrea to preven the next opposition meeting from being held, because apparently the opposition love to meet in lake side cities, so their obvious next meeting location will be Arba Minch…Jimma is nice too..please make sure to demand that one, because there is a lot coffee in there. It would makle Eritrea # 1 coffee producer in the world.. Agere Mariam, Shakisso.. a lot of gold there..combine it with Bisha, that is it… In fact you may have a ground to claim that one, because the similarity of gold mining between Shakiso and Bisha is too suspecious…Add that one to the list your new neighbour will be Kenya… 🙂

    • Kim Hanna

      Selam Eyob Medhane,
      .
      Mehari sometimes comes up with original ideas. Don’t tell him that but his ideas when you boil it down to its elements is really Andenet at its core. Now, I know he is gona feel insulted but someone has to stop him from other designs.
      .
      Nice hearing from you.
      .
      K.H

    • Fetima Dechasa

      Selam Eyob,

      That was world class sarcasm served cold. LOL

  • sarah

    What a picture! Democracy in action? If we all could do the same on what we want to happen to our people and country! Any then act upon our decisions!
    If this is a genuine picture from the meeting, I like what I see. (even if I don’t know what is being voted on)

  • Mahmud Saleh

    Hello Kburann Kburatn Awatista:
    Hager: Thank you for the information; it appears to be casual and objective, probably the best contribution I have read this week. That’s informing.
    2. On ENCDC: The name of the city hosting them says it all, BISHOFTU. ታድያ ምን ኣለበት? ድሮስ ኣልሸፈቱም እንዴ?
    The problem: Their cause of existence, in the first place, was not democratization of Eritrea. Remember: the mothers of these factions existed long before the independence of Eritrea and certainly long before PFDJ emerged in the scene and turned to Frankenstein monster. Their raison d’etre goes back to 1981. They are founded on a sinking sand; their politics is the product of decades gone by.It could not be expected to answer current Eritrean political problems. Eritrea and Eritreans have moved past that dark period but they are all arms up to exact a “pay back day.” Mind you, they could not be expected to institute democracy when that word is foreign to them in theory and practice. They are not democratic representative of Eritrea, and they have not demonstrated they could be one.
    What do I expect?
    a, disbanding without a tangible progress (of course, we will read some praises to the hosting government, and some sugar coating of their weaknesses…), well, frustrating their hosts once again.
    b/ Through Ethiopian arms twists, they may declare some victory, patching their gaping wound with band aids. Again a frustration for the host. Eritreans have long forgotten about them anyway, no meaningful presence across the media. Awate.com, in its editorial, gave them advice, I hope some true justice seekers and truly Eritrean spirited folks among them heed SAAY’s sincere advice.
    The bottom line: out dated politics of hatred and grudges is not going to solve current Eritrean problem. That was the product of a different era; today Eritrean problems could only be solved by tactics and strategies that reflect current Eritrean political situation. Tactics and strategies we employ should be the product of today’s Eritrean problems, not the products of 1981.
    3. On those who say EPRDF Ethiopia is friendly than other political forces in Ethiopia:
    a/ I could not think of a worse enemy than the one occupying my land.
    b/ Eritrea is a sovereign country, I don’t think in terms of friend or enemy, I think in terms of a normal relationship. Any country in the world could at any time break international law and invade its neighbor. Nothing new on this. It’s up to us to be smart in order to make up our size-disadvantage by formulating a smart foreign policy, including the promotion of peaceful coexistence. Sea ports should not be a weapon we use against Ethiopia, and size should not be what Ethiopia should use against us. Once the dust settles down, the region is enough for all member states. But with all my good impression and wish for Ethiopia, I could not reward EPRDF as a second-to-none friend of Eritrea.
    4. labels…labels…the talk of the week: I may sometimes veer off, but tend to stick to the issue. I have Awatistas I follow from ardent PFDJ supporters to extreme chauvinists dens. Please be humble, we are all diaspora, none could claim more patriotic than the other, none could claim more justice seeker than the other.
    a/ For those justice seekers who agitate for an armed resolution, I have a test for you : Are you going to lead the fight you are calling for? Are you ready to get baked in the fire you are stoking? Be sincere to yourself, if not so, say what you can do.
    b/ For those who are causing nuisance for portraying yourself more patriotic than others, I have a simple test for you too: say, a war breaks between the two countries, are you going to buy a ticket and fly to Asmara to defend Eritrea? If your answer is No, save us your zeal and say what you can do.
    Conclusion: Short of an all out Ethiopian invasion (and that’s if it could succeed in the submission of Eritrea which is impossible), the guys in Bishoftu have demonstrated they could not do the job. There are about 100,000 Eritreans in refugee camps in Ethiopia, they could not even win these young people who are living in abject condition let alone winning a population willing to defend the statuesque in Eritrea. Eritrea will be saved, changed, developed or wrecked by the people inside. If diaspora plays it smart and design smart schemes which respect and appreciate Eritreans’ anxieties, it can have a positive impact in the domestic dynamics. If you could not win “koboro junkies, don’t tell me you could win well informed citizens. The question is not whether PFDJ is good or bad, the question is whether we could come up with an entity better than PFDJ. We don’t have that; that doesn’t mean we could not have one. It just means we need to rethink, while we criticize koboro junkies, it seems we are becoming junkies of our own following. Unless, the opposition separates itself from elements which make its existence and policies appear seamlessly unified with Ethiopian designs towards Eritrea, unless it’s criticized, coerced, and pushed to change strategies, it will be a downright oxymoron of us to expect it rising up to tackle current Eritrean problems with expired political tools.
    Naay Lomi Hateta Abzi Ywdae.

    • Hope

      You ROCK,my Mahmouday.
      Brutally honest,sensible,rational,balanced view/Editorial and to the POINT!
      Hope the AT will approve your Employment for Editorial Consultant Position by now.

      • Mahmud Saleh

        Dear half-cousin
        SGJ and your cousin-natka-naay beynKa have not been so excited by my resume; my bad friend Sem is thought to be standing on his tiptoes to grab that position.

    • Dear Mahmud Saleh,

      I am not sure if you think that the name of the town BISHOFTU (earlier Debre Zeit), is a derivative of the Amharic verb “ሸፈተ”. “ቢሾፍቱ” is an Oromo name, although I do not know what it means.

      • Mahmud Saleh

        Salam Horizon
        Thanks for the information, I am improvising my Amharic, planning to visit ታላቋ ኣዲስ

      • Eyob Medhane

        Horizon,

        My very little knowledge of Oromiffa makes me think that it is a combination of two words.. ( bishan, which means water) And Ottu (theirs) Or may be Oddu which means addis wore or in it’s modern translation News (Zena) I could be wrong, but it’s name may have a lot to do that it is a city surrounded by lake ( water) than rebellion. . 🙂

    • Gebrekirstos

      ” I could not think of a worse enemy than the one occupying my land”, how about one occupying a bit more of “your land”, a little further up until Barentu? Would that not be a worse enemy? Or is it size does not matter, is it purely symbolic? Not that I believe Ethiopia is occupying your land, but testing your breakable statement.

      “Short of an all out Ethiopian invasion (and that’s if it could succeed in the submission of Eritrea which is impossible),”, do you really believe in impossibility of “the submission of Eritrea” ? Just when I read it, I could not help but understand it as meant for display of “online patriotizm”.

    • Saleh Johar

      Kbur ato Mahmuday,

      Your comment of today, under item 2, is probably the most unfair( I take that back, I believe you are fair as a person). It is the most disingenuous comment you ever made here and you went out of your way to show grudges when you accused others of harboring grudges.

      1. “ድሮስ ኣልሸፈቱም እንዴ?” ??? You could have spiced it up by calling them Wenbedie. But Bishoftu is also known to you as Nazereth, a name imposed by Hale Sellassie. When they could under the EPRDF, the Oromo rejected it and reclaimed the original name of their town, Bishoftu, and did away with imposed names. It should be mentioned with respect for the right of the people.

      2. “their cause of existence, in the first place, was not democratization of Eritrea. Remember: the mothers of these factions existed long before the independence of Eritrea and certainly long before PFDJ emerged in the scene and turned to Frankenstein monster. Their raison d’etre goes back to 1981. “

      I am afraid your wide brush painted honorable patriots. Why can’t you see the raison d’etre going back to 1961, when Eritreans embarked on a journey that is not reached yet, not withstanding 1991? Can I safely say your views are based on 1981, when you and your TPLF allies pushed your brothers out? No, I can’t say that because that will take us into unnecessary territory which we left behind. Please, please, leave that behind.
      Don’t read too much into the “Democracy” term that is found in many names of entities, it is a wild card, it even exists in PFDJ. But the task is about reclaiming rights, (that is why I use the word resistance and not opposition which is all about politics while resistance is about rights) I don’t expect anyone to establish democracy–PFDJ or others in the near future. Importantly, only the ruling party can be expected to “answer current political problems” not entities that have the first goal of regaining their right to return home–but maybe then they do not want to get involved in politics, current or future. You see Mahmoud, the right to return home should not be conditional to “solving current political problems”–that is a choice people make when they secure their basic rights, of breathing Eritrea’s air. The word democracy is foreign to all of us in “theory and practice”. Look at you denying a big chunk of Eritreans the right to exist by belittling their aspirations and their rightful goals, and by writing them off the map! As for representation, I assure you they are a dozen times more representative of Eritreans than the PFDJ, though on the weak, receiving end.

      Under sub section “b” you made a blanket statement, unlike you: “Eritreans have long forgotten about them anyway.”

      Are you sure about that? How sure Mahmuday? I can see you haven’t forgotten about them, for one. I haven’t.

      “Tactics and strategies we employ should be the product of today’s Eritrean problems, not the products of 1981.”

      Isn’t your comments the exact opposite of what you state? Aren’t you explaing the whole thing by referring to 1981? A big chunk of the ENCDC members have nothing to do with 1981, they not even there. For example, Haj Abdenur, who was elected to chair the secretarist of the conference was just a small boy in 1981 ( I believe he is in his forties, and he was with the PFDJ before he abondoned it–that example is enough for today:-) They have nothing to do with it, maybe some were not even born then. There are a few from the students of South Africa, surely they were not born in 1981! How about Mohammed Nur Ahmed? Does he carry grudges from 1981? How about Adhanom Gebremariam, a renowned commander, does he carry grudges from 1981? Perceptions die hard, Mahmuday. I am afraid you do not know the “who is who” of the ENCDC.
      On your conclusion you stated: “There are about 100,000 Eritreans in refugee camps in Ethiopia.”

      This shows you are misinformed, you don’t know about the subject Mahmuday. The ENCDC has members from the refugee camps, entities that sprung up in the refugee camps, and relatively speaking, they are the strongest. Besides, the ethnic entities within the ENCDC have an uncontested support from the refugees, almost all members of their ethnic groups in the camps.

      When I lived in Saudi Arabia, I wanted to rent a house and walked in a housing compound to ask. The man there saw me and remarked, “this is for expatriates” and I replied I was one. He said, “you are African, how can you be an expatriate?” To them, only whites can be expatriates, and only whites can afford the expensive rent.

      Mahmuday, you are all soft and imply sympathy for the “Koboro Junkies” but you have only contempt for people who spend their lives in this struggle, even if they happen to be in Bishoftu! At least give them as much weight as the Koboro Junkies. Remember, incompetence is not a crime. Even the incompetent have rights that your envisioned “democracy” should recognize.

      Apart from that, your comments are in line with the insightful Mahmuday. On number two, maybe you typed before you have your cup of tea, unlike you at all.

      nayHateta Hateta abzi yebeqi’E 🙂
      Cheers

      • haileTG

        Bless you SGJ,

        You restored my faith on the many levels including that we still have wise and gifted elders like you. Shame Eritrea has to do without you. BTW have you heard the recent Mihretab Hani song “shebedbed”? I am not sure if you are big on songs from raising justice seeking artists 🙂

        • Saleh Johar

          Thanks HaileTG,
          Nope, I hate music that only agitates your body without doing anything to your mind, in my daily life. That is why I go for Monolian throat singing, thai country music, Malian music, Berberi and some classic Arabic music, but when it is time to dance, I love eshem-eshem like there is no tomorrow. Let me stop here because I have an almost ready Negarit on that.

      • Mahmud Saleh

        AbusalaH

        I had good stuff to say for those self respecting among them, I said this, ” Awate.com, in its editorial, gave them advice, I hope some true justice seekers and truly Eritrean spirited folks among them heed SAAY’s sincere advice.” I think it’s fair. That’s my reading and time will tell. I know the issue is sensitive for both of us, so while I raise it for lessons to be learned, if I continue the debate with you, it will only reflect that old sentiment. So, Ustaz SaleH, with all due respect, that’s my opinion. ኣይውስኸላን ኣየጕድለላን።

      • Gebrekirstos

        “Bishoftu is also known to you as Nazereth” , Bishoftu = Debre-zeit

        • Saleh Johar

          Slip of finger–thanks Gebrekristos.

      • Nitricc

        SJG I can understand the sympathy you display with the so called Eritrean opposition.
        But isn’t time to revaluate the new approach? The reason PIA laughs when ever someone mention opposition is because he knows them and he figured them out and in fact he uses them to his cause. You better give him something different, something new and something he never seen. The same old people getting together in Adiss, Debrezit or Bahridar is not going to change the out come. They can never make a dent.
        Because I sued a different plate I can’t expect the food to change. get rid of them!
        Mahmuday have a point.

        • Saleh Johar

          Nitriccs, please put your critical hat.
          I sense that most “opposition” bashing is actually bashing the concept of opposition. If you can specify persons, parties, groups and criticize them, I have no problem–for God’s sake, I always do it. But condemning the entire opposition in a stereotypical manner, is wrong. Besides, isn’t one expected to learn about anything before criticizing or evaluating it? Even if you just wiped out everyone in Debrezeit, it doesn’t mean the opposition will cease to exist. It will be there as long as human beings are wronged, as long as humanity continues to develop. Opposition stops when wrongdoing stops–which means never. So accept it as a concept, and as a necessity for enlightenment and improvement of the quality of life, and then we can move on. But condemning the members of the opposition and the concept of opposition, as you always do, is wrong. Think about it in one of your calmer nights 🙂

          • Nitricc

            SG
            99.9 you are good at reading people and understand what they are trying to convey. Well, you are human and here it is the 0.1 percentage of error margin
            My point; you miss understood me.
            I will try one more time. But for now, let alone a country, let alone a government, let alone politics even relationships and merrages need and must have a descending views and opesing vioces. But what kind of vioce? Constructive or distractivie?
            Will expline .

      • Eyob Medhane

        Gash Saleh,

        I am disappointed in you 🙂 How could man, who drove all the way from Addis to Asmara through that dengerous Limalimo cliff road confuse Nazret and Debrezeit? Bishoftu is Debrezeit. Actually, it’s not even that much of an imposed name. His Majesty Haileslassie I himself referred it as ‘Bishoftu’ in his book ‘Hiwotena ye etyopia Ermija’… Nazret is Adama… Here is Bishoftu’s Wikipedia entry… Don’t make that mistake again 🙂 http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bishoftu

        • Saleh Johar

          You caught me there Eyob. It’s my fingers that made the terrible mistake 🙂

    • Rodab

      MaHmuday,
      I don’t follow much of ENCDC’s politics, so I am limited on that, but I will read yours and that of SaleH Johar’s response and reach at my own conclusion. On people inside the country, it sounded to me you are saying they are willing to maintain the status quo. If that is what you mean, I will disagree. People are really, really exhausted of the current situation and are eager for changes. On the Woyanes being worse I disagree on that too. With all the mistakes they made including the mass deportation and their rejection of the border agreement, I still think they are much better than their predecessors.
      For now, I can live with the rest of your comments:)

      • Mahmud Saleh

        Salam Rodab;
        very reasonable, and understood.
        I want you to understand that when I said “population willing to defend the statesque” I mean PFDJ supporters. You will agree with me that winning would mean winning the majority of Eritreans “silent majority” plus active PFDJ supporters. Any person who doesn’t appreciate this important part of changing the tide against PFDJ is ignoring the basic principle of defeating his opponent. People will follow you on how they see you. If Eritreans have the impression that the current opposition is an extension of Ethiopian design, why should they spend time and energy on it? Now, to have a stronger umbrella opposition, you and me should freely air our concerns, I see it as a duty to contribute towards it being healthy. The opposition is full of myriads of colors and textures. But here in my original comment, I am specifically talking about the body meeting in Bishoftu. Political figures who are talking in my name and all Eritrea are fair game. It’s a hypocrisy of those who lament of lack of self expression in PFDJ Eritrea, and speak of the fact that PFDJ lacks self-correcting mechanism, and yet, they cripple every little criticism people make towards those who are speaking in our name.
        I may have been too blunt, and I take some of Saleh Gadi’s corrections on the blanket characterization of the historicity of the opposition, but the time of ምእንቲ መጎጎ ትሕለፍ ኣንጭዋ or “Let the mouse pass lest not break the clay oven” must end. We have done that with PFDJ, we are not going to do it with the next in line. If not, Saleh Younis will have to prepare another “twgaH’mo.” (Most of this answer is not a direct answer to you, but as you know, once I get my cup of coffee, I somehow keep rolling)>
        The second point, regarding EPRDF, that’s just my view. I said much about this issue in the past, including the possibility of dialogue as long as both countries are ready for it and it respects the border ruling. I hate to see that border idle; and I fear its intensive state might lend to another sense less bloodshed. I have love and respect for the people of Ethiopia and I hope to see both people put this behind them. But the reality is that it’s only EPRDF that’s refusing the ruling and continue occupying Eritrean lands, I have no idea how one could consider it the best friend of Eritrea. But hey I respect people’s views as long as they remain to be just views.

      • Hope

        Eng Rodab:
        I thought we are comparing the current TPLF and future leaders.
        Do u believe that we will have a worse enemy in the future?
        Do u , or not, believe that the TPLF has contributed to our current mess, from an objective reality point of view and based on the facts on the ground,not from the biased political point of view?
        Irrespective Mahmpud ‘s and SHJ points of view,don’t you believe that the Oppsition has failed us this far?
        And if you do so, why would you expect others to tell you about the facts you know very well?
        If the NC or the ENDC has failed us repeatedly for lots of reasons and if we believe that the NC or the ENDC is going to follow the same procedures and is going to be manipulated by the same old manipulators , besides its arrogant and divisive and enemy-dependent (on our enemies)path, how in the world would you expect the “NC” to help us or to come up with better solutions.?
        Remember that this is the Group, who or which endorsed Article 39 of the TPLF Junta with the risk of losing Aseb in the name of RSADO and Gash ,in the name of the Kumama Liberation Movement.

        • Hope

          Pls read as :”… irrespective of Mahmoud ‘s…

    • Tesfabirhan WR

      Oh my God! Oh my God! oh my God!

      Is this Mahmuday by the way?

      oh, I thought that the PFDJ ambassador in Israel is here at awate.com today. My God. I just came to be conscious now why PFDJ likes “Hateta”. Through Hateta, new words are created, truth is denied, and labeling is crafted. Thank you mahmuday for awakening me. I thought that you were so high through your previous hatetas, just like what Eri-TV appeared for 2 to 3 years by bringing the slogan of “Serving the Truth”.

      @salehjohar:disqus just thank you for giving us this lesson, “The Nose Cone”, you never failed to penetrate ma man.

      Dear Mahmuday, just for your own respect, I will just request you to applogize for Naming of the City, “BISHOFTU” just first for your own personal value and second for the righst of Oromo People.

      My God!

      • haileTG

        hey tes,

        I think the ERiTV “Serving The Truth” is a motto, rather than a slogan. As far as their choice of motto goes however, it is less thought out. For example, they could say “Searching The Truth”, because to “Serve” it imply, you have it. This only betray their truly arrogant character that they believe they are on par with the almighty. The other alternative would have been to change the ending into “Serving The Truthful.” Where by, even if their finding of Truthfulness on some one may not be considered true, it could have had a sermon ring to it and have rightly identified its supporter’s worship mentality that they maintain even if the glaring reality staring them in the face.

        Slogans are often uttered by leaders or their foot soldiers. Things like ሁሉም ነገር ወደ ጦር ግንባር or መሬትዋ እንጂ ህዝብዋ ኣያስፈልገንም… type of positions from previous salvo against ቅጥረኞችና፡ ወንበዴዋች።

        cheers

        • Tesfabirhan WR

          Dear haile TG,

          Hawey natey, haile hawey, PFDJ kulu hawawisomo endiyom. Hiwiswis abilomo kulu mulu. Anyhow, as a social Engineer and on duty technical Engineer of our politics, your very educative info is well-taken.

          Let me get the definition of “Slogan” and “Motto”

          1. Motto:
          a. A sentence, phrase, or word inscribed on something as appropriate to or indicative of its character or use (Online merriam-webster dictionary)

          b. A short expression of a guiding principle (Online merriam-webster dictionary)

          2. “Slogan”
          a. A word or phrase that is easy to remember and is used by a group or business to attract attention (Online merriam-webster dictionary)

          b.
          A short easily remembered phrase, especially one used to advertise an idea or a product (Cambridge Advanced learner’s dictionary, 3rd Edition)

          c. A distinctive cry, phrase, or motto of any party, group, manufacturer, or person; catchword or catch phrase. (dictionary.reference.com)

          And this especially caught my attention about Slogan definition

          d. A war cry or gathering cry, as formerly used among the Scottish clans (dictionary.reference.com)

          Based
          on these references, I could rather take “Serving the Truth” as a
          “Slogan”. They are advertising TRUTH haile TG. These mafia groups have no shame to do business with TRUTH when there is Truth in it.

          In food science, if a product is labeled as 100%, it is a pure indiication of advertising and it it market oriented. The food is not 100% what they are telling you about.
          http://grist.org/food/is-the-natural-label-100-percent-misleading/

          Based on the document, “Serving the Truth” is a slogan which is meant only to those who are naïve to believe what is said and Eri-Tv is saying it. If it said, TRUTH, it is TRUTH!

          Your highness, haile hawey, I didn’t forget to thank you on the clip you shared me and for the always highly built and enlightening point you made there.

          hawka
          tes

    • Asmerom

      Desr Mahmud
      You just showed the hidden part of you not expected frm you

  • haileTG

    Selamat Hager,

    I wonder if you came across rounds of giffa when you were there and if you did, what you make of it? I happened to have seen several such incidents. And the way I saw the civilians run in distress was reminiscent of what use to happen in Asmara soon after the fall of Massawa. During that time, the people learned that there were civilian causalities in the fall of Massawa that every time they heard a missail landing (use to get lobbed into Asmara airport, airforce, Kangew and selasa amstegna), the whole city would be on the run with stampeding of terrified population. Such use to happen sometimes (out of sheer nervousness) even if the firings were return salvos by the Ethiopian forces deployed there. That was understandable though. But if you take the nervous and distressed reaction alone though, I sensed similar levels of distress from people trying to avoid the round ups. For the most part, you don’t see those asking for paper armed (usually 2 – 3 men stopping passers by or checking house to house inside business premises). Although, you notice particularly heightened anxiety when there joins what the people refer to as “tederabi police and makina” (reinforcement police and vehicle). In such circumstances, you see, visible distress and rushed activities to avoid the encounter. Such incidents were some of the things that convinced me that the people see the regime as a predator and state violence waged on the civilians is what is holding the latter in place. Once they turn back and start to confront it, the regime will be over in short order.

    Regards

    • AOsman

      Haile TG,

      What you are describing is not recent phenomenon, but has been going for years. The only difference is that at one point the civilians were cooperating to tell the military which way the youth were running away, then the reversal of telling the youth where the blockade to catch them was.

      I did not observe directly Derg or PDFJ giffa, but if it takes such events to know the brutality of a regime, trust me all supporters who visit Eritrea know about it from discussing it with their family or close relations.

      As the state of affair in Eritrea goes, those who support the regime out of fear or selfish needs, but not out of convictions. For the diaspora who live in free countries, it is pure selfishness.

      Regards
      AOsman

    • Hager

      Hello Haile:

      1. I didn’t see any Giffa for the time I was there. There is a call for military training but people are refusing. The military training they calling them to is Gergera. From one village I know only two people went. As you know its’ harvesting season back home. Kewi is great but the problem is there is no man power to do the labor. Everywhere you go you see deki anesitiyo taff kiatsida.
      2. Fuel shortage is unbearable. Not a single gas station sells fuel. The only option you have is to buy it from the black market. At times I paid 120nkf a litro for benzine. In every corner of Asmara you see under age kids with empty coca cola bottles ready to sale you benzine. Electricity shortage is very bad. At one time I went three days without my cell phone because I couldn’t charge it.
      3. Some price of goods
      ** Sugar is 50nkf /kilo
      ** Bread is 3nkf each
      ** Egg is 8nkf each
      ** Coke or sprite (Made in Sudan) is 25nkf each
      4. I didn’t see any militarization in Asmara or anywhere. The presidential palace has guards 24/7 but that is about it.
      5. Didn’t see much checkpoints. For example from Asmara to Mendefera there is one right before you get to Dubaruba but they only check the trucks and bigger vehicles. There is one right before you get to Mendefera and it’s the same thing.
      6.I came back without running into a single person that is grateful what the government is going. It seemed to me that everyone is trying to find away to get out of the country.
      7. Corruption is above the roof. I encountered it myself. I knew if I didn’t pay my job won’t get done (at least on time).
      8. Safety was good. You see people at 11 O’clock at night walking all alone.
      9. Transportation is a mess. Half of your time is spent waiting for bus or mini bus. The lines are very long.
      10. Sanitation is unbearable. Not a single restaurant or public service place I visited had a running toilet or running water. Heck in some cases I had to do what I had to do and use newspaper.
      11. Immigration…..now they issue you exit visa for ten years. Meaning if I return to Eritrea within ten year I don’t have to go and get an exit visa.

      I know I am all over the place brother but hopefully what I have written would give you a glace of our motherland.

      • Hope

        Hager and Hailat:
        No bad report,relatively speaking.
        But kind of very childish arguement though.
        No giffa,;very safe;good harvest;but some corruption,some poor hygiene.—-
        So,if the Weyanes invade,no need to call for the Military or giffa,just let them run over to Asmera.??? Huh?
        Good luck.

      • Abraham Hanibal

        Selam Hager;

        It is a very depressing news that you come up with; no surprise how low our country has gone under the PFDJ. I’ve, however some questions, not sure if you’ve answers to all of them, but let me try.

        1) “There is a call for military training but people are refusing”. Does this mean that the tyranny of PFDJ is letting the People go by their refusal, if so does it mean the regime is losing the grip?

        2) There is fuel in the black market, even children are selling bottles of cola filled with fuel. But why is not fuel present in the gas stations, if it is available in the black market? And where do the children get the fuel from?

        3) According to the prices you’ve listed, i guess a simple dish of “fritata”, for example, is a luxury to those who survive only on the meagre salaries they get when one egg costs 8nkf ? Plus are the prices in the “rt’awi dukan” or the normal shops?

        4) In the checkpoints they are checking trucks and bigger vehicles, does this mean they’re checking the buses? I think I’ve read in the Danish Immmigration report they don’t check buses?

        5) You came back without running into a single person that is grateful what the government is doing. Do People talk freely with each other about their situation, without suspicion towards each other, do people criticize the regime freely with everybody?
        6) Is the corruption directed to People comming from the diaspora, considering these People may’ve some cash, or is it directed to all the People?
        7) Regarding the safety, I happen to have read on Assena that it is worsening becuase of the economic difficulties, but you happen to have not noticed any safety issues?
        8) Considering the price of fuel, do People have the money to pay for bus tickets for longer distances? If the lines are very long, it means People have the means to pay for the bus fares?
        9) Regarding the availability of running water, does this mean the residents of Asmara no longer have running tap water?
        Regards, and thank you for the update.

        • haileTG

          Selamat Abraham,

          We sure like to hear Hager on recent update, but let me add some from what I think. No scientific research here, but I try my best to process things whenever I am there. But mind you, with hectic schedules, a lot of things can easily pass you by or your ‘normals’ can get adjusted when you stay there a bit longer and unless you keep an eye for such things the real things can pass you by. Let me add my input:

          1) This one depends on how the regime would proceed. The refusal is not an act of disagreeing and wanting better approach. The people have been through all of the training, maetot, giffa, agelglot, kitet…this is saying no more type. This makes it dangerous. 6700 people crossed to Ethiopia in the recent call up (in 5 weeks), there was some shooting in and disturbance in the south where some people even had their wives arrested. This shows you the people are reacting in desperate situation, saying they can no longer put up with it. It is a serious crisis.

          2) Fuel is present at Gas stations. Normally, you need papers from transport to get it unless you are on the rationed catagory (buses, taxis, ambulance and other civil service duty – the civil service is very limitted e.g. unless you are on very essential duty, there is none). Buses are subsidized and run normally (by local standard), taxi is expensive.

          3) I normally never consider those (most including in managerial positions) who make less than 4000nkf per month (most are around 1000 – 2000) as having salary. A very small living quarter in Asmara rents anywhere between 2000 – 5000 nkfa per month depending quality. The high end (5000) would get you well maintained 2 – 3 bed apartment. Many travel from the outskirts. I don’t know what fritata is costing this days but I know a nice fata place just behind bar impero (one bread is 3 nkf but the guy makes rather yummy fata that I sit there when waiting to friends to finish taElim in the mornings if I am there).

          4) Random checks do happen from time to time but mostly to do with draft absconding in the highlands. For the traffic Tesseney – Asmara it is more involved with merchandises and and the likes. There is a multi layered systems running this, not just the regime but individual units or commanders for personal gains too.

          5) Here people fail to differentiate between “complaining” and “criticizing”. Many people complain in public and private. They tell you all the woos of everyday life. NO ONE would approach the formal channels to do so, that would be criticizing, and everyone knows the score. Complaining is allowed and even they do it on TV sometimes. If you make it formal you will be CIA/Woyane and there is a deep hole that you would be placed never to come out again.

          6) I will only say Eritrea is corruption ladden A – Z, including people-people corruption. My knowledge in this area is fairly well formed, but often I am reluctant to discuss it as it is hard to do it without mentioning names and places. Yerhwo fetari 😉

          7) On safety, the people are normally safe, nothing the regime helped. If you are looking at specific location however, some areas are less safe than others. But the pitch darkness (even around (komishtato) also makes walking around less appealing. But clubs are busy and and I wish Hager says more about the street prostitution that is getting ever worse since some 4-5 years ago.

          8) As I said buses are subsidized. In terms of illegal money, there is a lot of money in circulation too. Remember that families are also helped by diaspora. People carry money in sacks to and from banks for small business activities.

          9) Running water is the worst and most unreliable of all. Lights sometimes come in rotation at different times. But with water, it could be months at a time, and when it comes, nothing more than a couple of days.

          Hager also can elaborate on shortage of fresh milk in Asmara (the nearest is the cooperative in Mendefera if I am not mistaken). This can also contribute to malnutrition in small children.

          Regards

          • Abraham Hanibal

            Hi Haile;
            Thanks for the additional information. May the Eritrean People find the courage to stand up to tyranny, and come out of this gloomy times!
            PS. I’m still wondering where the children get the fuel from? If children can get fuel, it means everyone can get it from somewhere. But why not make it available for the general public? Or is it so scarce that it cannot be distributed “freely”? And do people speak politics with each other without fear? For example discussing the policies of the PFDJ?
            From your info regarding house rent, it looks no one has the means to rent an appartment in Asmara, where are the people living, in tents? Barracks? Regarding the corruption, do people complain about it openly? For example, on tv? Are there any corrective measures being taken?
            But there is one glaring fact here, despite the poverty and darkness, our People are still decent and they are not resorting to criminal acts of theft or robbery. This is one of the big pluses we have in our country. I hope the PFDJ do not live longer to spoil this also.

          • haileTG

            hi Abraham;

            1) The fuel comes from contraband in the Sudan. In order to make fuel available for public distribution as you stated, Eritrea has to import sufficient fuel from the world markets. What is the point of getting container full of contraband fuel and and pouring it into the Gas station underground storage using menqorqor. The sourcing doesn’t lend it self to be distributed in that way.

            2) People complain about their hardiship, those who talk politics would be tortured and possibly killed. And that is well understood. To say the hospitals suck is fine, to say the regime misappropriate and mismanage public funds and doesn’t benefit its people’s interest would mean instant brutalization. If you however you say the hospitals suck, they agree with you and use it to terrorize the hospital management into submission because if they don’t turn blind eye it would tell them the people are against them. Please, don’t forget the brutality of the regime on the people of interest is truly out of this world.

            3) No, some live in rentals and some in villas and others in downtrodden huts. If the diaspora wouldn’t assist their families however, they wouldn’t even have stayed tents. You would only afford tents in Shimelba not PFDJ Eritrea. I have recently helped to raise and send 200,000 nakfa to family to repair collapsed walls. The regime would tell you Eritreans are so well off can even do house reno (actually reno is illegal and part of the pay is for corrupt officials to turn blind eye).

            4) Yes people are and always have been decent, but their conditions are getting worse by the day and you can’t count on it. Until, we set their condition priority #1, they are only looking towards the Ethio-Eri border to cross it and not to protest its non demarcation.

            Regards

          • Abraham Hanibal

            Hi Haile;
            Regarding the talk of politics or policies, I was thinking of it in interpersonal communications, like in coffe shops, restaurants or bars. I know very well that it is deadly to talk about these issues in public fora. How about the “rampant corruption”, do people complain about it, if yes has the regime taken any corrective measures? With the price level on house rents you’ve given, it i practically impossible the many People with salaries on the range 1000-2000 nkf would afford to live in rentals or villas. If we are going to say these People are living in downtrodden huts, then it means there are lots of such huts in Asmara. When I lived in Eritrea before, about two decades ago there were no such huts, though there were simple houses “geza tanika” around Abashawl and Haddish Adi.
            I don’t think either those living in Shmelba can afford tents,; I guess they’re given to them by aid agencies. I know that the diaspora are assisting their families, but how many families have someone abroad who has the capacity of aiding them and how often can they assist them?
            Regarding your last point: my position regarding the importance of the reesolution of the border is based on my belief that, if so, then the plight of our People may start to wane, as the result of political pressure that might ensue on the ruling regime to reform its policies. It is also based on the idea that those who lived on the occupied lands, which happens to be productive, may again start to rebuild their lives. Having said this, I know very well that people who lack basic necessities of life would have other priorities than the final demarcation.
            Regards

          • haileTG

            H Abraham:

            1) Whether one does it in public place, behind alleyways, street corners, they can discuss political criticism of the regime and gamble with their lives there and there. They can complain the traffic administration is unhelpful. If they say Eritrea needs a constitution as a national traffic, then tekariju (put down) is a clear writing on the wall.

            2) Asmara doesn’t have huts but it is run down and dilapidated. People can live in family estates, many social nets to help one onather, there is rampant prostitution and and many kids engaged in sale of flammable commodity can be any better picture to cue you in to the reality you are trying gauge.

            3) People can’t criticize corruption if that is what saving their day. When was the last time you called a fellow Eritrean diaspora to criticize about the dangers of black market money transfer? Don’t you depend on it? Do you send money to your family at $1 = 15 nakfa or 70 nakfa? The latter is what everyone in diaspora is doing and gravely injuring local economy. Yet, I doubt you discuss this corruption even in the western Starbucks. People steeped in corruption are just thankful they weren’t caught. It is the system that needs to change, it is a top down problem not bottom up.

            4) The border demarcation wouldn’t solve much of the problem at all. The people know that and that is why they wish to get out as fast as they can. Unless there is mass aid bailout or regime change, Eritrea’s problems have nothing to do with the border being what it is at the moment. Demarcation is good for entirely different reason but 100% NOTHING to do with Eritrea’s current myriads of problems.

            I always say that unless one is confident that they have fair grasp of the current situation on the ground, they should neither support or oppose. They better join the Silent Majority. Opposing the regime assumes one knows what they are opposing about. If you really aren’t sure how things are then wouldn’t be it risky to oppose a national government whose policy’s practical impact one is not sure about? At the same time wouldn’t supporting its position without first hand knowledge of its activities on the ground be unfair to the people of the concerned country? Abraham, let’s encourage everyone and ourselves to have a firm grip of Eritrean realty to take a position one way or the other.

            Regards

          • Abraham Hanibal

            Hi Haile;

            So you’re saying that people cannot talk politics and policies even in private situations? Does this mean that they do not trust each other because someone may pass the talk to the regime? Regarding the money transfer, if everybody in the diaspora is sending through black market, then what are the official remitance branches of the PFDJ doing? I know that some individuals with contacts with the regime are involved in the business of money transfer and exchange.

            I repeat again that I’m not saying a resolution of the border would automatically lead to solving much of the problem. I understand that it is the inherent policies of the PFDJ rulers, based on ultimate control over everything, which is the cause of the problem. But as I stated many times, if the border is resolved, the PFDJ would lose their lame excuse, and the people would be more emboldened to ask the necessary questions for change. So to say that this issue has “100% NOTHING to do with Eritrea’s current myriads of problems” is denying fact and a gross mistake.
            As to with your last paragraph, I disagree. I think almost every Eritrean has a fair grasp of what is happening in their country. I don’t need to be on the ground; I’m following events through media, I’m looking at the fate faced by my fellow citizens, and I’ve a contact with family and community. I know that the regime has arrested and is arresting people at will, never to recover them, it has banned or put heavy restrictions on private sector, it doesn’t respect the slight rights of its citizens, it has discarded a legally ratified constitution, etc. These facts are ample evidences for me to stand against the PFDJ-regime. I don’t think the silent majority do not know these facts, in fact their silence and inaction in spite of them knowing these facts is what caused and continues to feed the problems of the country.
            Regards

          • Hope

            Abraham,
            If I may interject and ask u , per your argument,it sounds like Haile is against border demarcation and it sounds like ,even if it is demarcated, it won’t make a difference based on my understanding of your debate.
            But I agree that demarcating the border will leave no more excuses for the PFDJ.
            The corruption and devastating Economic Policy of the PFDJ is not new.
            The Private Sector could have contributed positively for lots of problems we have.
            Our mekete should be to strengthen the struggle,not to regurgitate the obvious one.
            Can you challenge Haile TG,btw, as to why he is shying awaying from the Weyane Factor.?

          • Abinet

            Hope
            What is weyane factor? And why don’t you challenge him yourself like you challenged Ato Saleh? Btw, did he reply to you? Last time I checked he was waiting for a clarification.

          • Hope

            Abi,
            But does it concern you though?
            The last time u told me that you will only jump if mamma Estopia is attacked?
            To be fair to u though:
            I have asked and challenged Haile since a year now.
            May be u can answer for him.

          • Tesfabirhan WR

            Dear Abraham,

            You seem so honest when you ask such questions. May be you are totally dissociated from the Eritrean reality.

            Aha, did you write, “I’m still wondering where the children get the fuel from?”

            Have you ever heard of child exploitation? Those who sell the fuel are not the kids. The kids are just like advertisers. They have the address of the seller and once you reach them, they will take you to the place where the fuel is stored. Most of the time, (I had a couple of name lists before who sell these contraband fuel) and the kids just earn small money to buy bread for their family. Most of the time, the kids come from a family where the father is in the military.

            These days, childrens are subjected to slavery indirectly actually every where.

            hawka
            tes

          • haileTG

            hi tes,

            There is also the issue that the real concern should have been why are many small kids selling fuel? It is this concern for people than systems and regimes that we are struggling to hammer in.

            regards

          • Abraham Hanibal

            Dear Haile;
            If this messege is indirectly meant tp me then I would like to tell you that I’m against child labor. I raised the question because it was unclear to me from where the children were getting the fuel-a commodity not to be found easily in gas stations in Eritrea. I thought that the kids were sent to the streets by their families to sell a few gallons of fuel to help secure a little income. When I was in Eritrea, when the economic and political situation was much better than now, children were selling things like “beles”, “kolo”, etc to secure a few nakfas for their families, this was pretty common, and had to be seen in relation to the economies of the families in poor countries. Therefore, I saw the selling of fuel by kids today in that context. But now, thanks to Tesfabirhan, I know that the kids are acting as advertisers for unscrupulous businessmen, and it pains me, of course.
            Regards

          • Tesfabirhan WR

            Dear Abraham,

            Let me share with you how fuel is circulating in the market.

            One: Each gas station has a quota every month, usually two or three selected gas stations in a city. Then these gas stations sell their fuel based on the order directed to them through ministries or zoba administrators. The own of the car usually reaches with a coupon given to him. Those who get such offer are either public transports, like bus, agricultural machineries owned by the government, taxi or tracks that transport governmental goods. And more, every farmer who runs a fruit and vegetable farm receives limited amount of fuel every month after paying a tax (20 litres/ha). At the end of the month, some fuel is left in the depo and hence is ready to be sold in the black market. You need to know the gas station owner very well to have an advantage as it is very strictly controlled.

            ++Most of the time, there is no fuel given to privately owned buses unless they are on special ordered visit.

            Two: Gas imported through black market, actually, I can not say it a black market as there are big centers, open to everyone and usually at the border lines, and transport them covered inside Eritrea in jarikans, usually of 70 ltrs. In every garage and bus station, you can find the fuel.

            Third: Transporting tracks, commonly called “betah” have extra fuel tank, added one, that can hold upto 800-1000 litres of fuel. When they dump their load in the border (the transit goods), they fill their tanks from the sellers and sgip them inside Eritrea.

            Fourth: EDF cars (owned by the Ministry of defence) are also of major suppliers of this contrabanded fuel to the market. The corrupted military officers are heavily engaged on these activities.

            In the cities, there are many middlemen business people who control the market. Most of the time, garages, privately owned houses and grain stores are used for depositing.

            But mind you, it is not a secret. It is just an open market these days except selling from gas stations. Eritrea has now survived by this system since 2007 even earlier.

            The thing is: the fuel which is circulating in the market is usually adulterated. It is not pure and hence it is a matter of chance to get quality product. Many engines were damaged by this fuel heavly. It is so common to wash engine again and again as the combusion process is always interrupting.

            Sources: Tessenai, Omihajer, Karora, Assab.

            Hawka
            tes

          • Abraham Hanibal

            Thanks again for the info.

          • Abraham Hanibal

            Dear Tesfabirhan;
            It is true, I’ve not been to the country for some time now, I think events are also running fast, and when I talk on the telephone, I don’t normally discuss such issues. But now I know that the kids are, unfortunately, exploited by some heartless criminals, and it is saddening.
            Regards

          • Gud

            Hey, Abraham,
            I can see the usual suspects are trying to mow you down using their usual techniques, but I can assure you with certainty that if you go to Eritrea now, you will, love and love and love it. Why? thanks to the idiots, your expectation is way lower and you will be surprised how fake and desperate guys like HaileTDD are.
            Make a plan to go

          • Abraham Hanibal

            Hi Gud;
            I’m trying to find some clarifications here about matters inside the country that I don’t have a closer knowledge of. My aim is not for finding out on whether it is suitable or not for me to travel to Eritrea. It is especially helpful to hear from eye witness acounts of some people who’ve been there recently.
            Regards

      • haileTG

        Thanks bro Hager,

        Wow, I am surprised with 120nkf for bezene, that is just hefty. Basically, for a local use only they tend to get the 20lt jallon at a time and we are talking 2400nakfa!! When it was around 65nkfa, I use to think that was about what we get it for here /gallon (if you exchange by, say about 60nkfa for a dollar). This one sounds much higher than the the value of the stuff itself. The place X I go to fill up had three such vendors in close proximity where one call himself TOTAL, the second SHELL and the last MOBIL. 🙂

        • Tesfabirhan WR

          Dear haile TG,

          Hager is a playing his economic problem propaganda. We all know that people are not living from the income they get in Eritrea but from the remittance they receive from abroad. And PFDJ is the major transfer agent through his world-wide network of “HaWelti” which they use highest rate of exchange.

          In Europe for example, 1 € is exchanged at the rate of 63-73 Nakfa. If you take this to be on average, 68, then, 100 € = 6,800 Nakfa.

          In Europe, fuel costs between 1.20-1.80 €. Let’s take 1.50 €. Then, 1 lt of benzene = 102 nakfa. If you add the profit of the black market, as many people are acting as “MIDDLEMEN”, the price goes to 120 nakfa. This is normal business according to PFDJ black-market economic policy.

          Dear haile TG, every single family in Eritrea is now almost dependent on remittance and the True value of the money is determined based on the “exchange Rate” present on this process.

          Hager is back to his supporting “Economic Challenges song”. He has no substance in his report except trying to diffuse his propoganda.

          Hawka
          tes

  • T..T.

    The national council’s meeting of ENCDC is not a one man show.
    Yes, quorum (the required minimum number of attendees) must be met and
    there are procedures to be followed.
    The body follows quorum practices that include requirements and situations that invoke exceptional rights of the members. Given that the members are scattered all over the world, the meeting can be conducted using electronic technology including via telephone conferences besides those physically present
    at the meeting.

    Unlike the Isayasists, the opposition members are not loudmouthed and badmouthed.
    Yes, unlike the Isayasists, the opposition members do not dance to the music of their failure and anger. The difference between the Isayasists and the opposition is that:
    the opposition members respect neighbors, others’ properties and above all abide by best practice of behavior and conducts that are applicable to their status – that is why the neighbors like the opposition members.

  • Nitricc

    They will elect what the TPLF gangs wanted them to elect. The END of the story!
    You can’t expect the TPLF gunges to spend that kind of money and to let things at the will of Eritreans!
    It all gigantic waste of time, if you ask me”

  • Saleh Johar

    Mr.Guest,this is a meeting of the NC and not a hzbawi akheba, the Baito. If that was not the case, what would you say about Isaias in a meeting with ten yes-voices otherwise known as “ministers”?

    • Hope

      Your Excellency:
      Here is the question I have saved for you for years.I decided to take any risk for asking this question.
      Based on the “Reporting Plus” you have been doing,you seem to favor ONE Group over the others in my opinion based on what has been said and reported here and there.
      Hint:
      Your “Animosity” with Medrekh,the EFND,the EPDP and its Leadership.
      Not only that,it was a recent history that you went on a “Full Blown Defamatory Campaign” against the EPDP and its Leadership members,including your ‘Life Long Best Friend and Colleague” to the extent of “totally and successfully” tarnsihing his name and fame and to the extent of being “hated” by his own people-the Lowlanders and Kerenites.This is based on the Reporting Plus you and your Website have done few yrs ago.
      I suspect that this was based on some ideological differences and some personal issues,including the reaction of some “EPDP members” to the Ali Salim’s dangerous Civil War Declaration against the Higlanders and Christians,when,unfortunately,some assumed that it was you using a Pen Name.
      Now,what I said is based on the facts that I read from this same website.
      But I also heard some rumors that,you still have some grudges(understandably)against those,who pointed th finger at you about the Ali salim Saga(and again,understandably).
      The simple solution sounds like a simple formula of “Forget and Forgive” could have taken care of it.Most of us did apologize after the real Ali Salim showed up and confessed.But apparently, few EPDP members did not do so,hence,you have held “grudges” against them and,by default,it sounds like you have held the same “Grudges” against the EPDP as a Party and its Leadership and it seems like,unless the EPDP and Its Leadership apolgizes to you officially,NOT only that you will keep the “Grudges” for ever,but you will keep boycotting,sabotaging,etc….to the last minute… so as to keep them down.
      And if so:
      -Don’t you believe that this is “Unconstructive” and against National Reconiclaition,and against your VERY Motto and PRINCIPLE?
      -Don’t you believe that Reconciliation involves a-two-way road?I.e,”Forgive so as to be Forgiven”, as the Lord’s Prayer says it(“Our Lord,who art in the Heavens……Forgive us as we Forgive us those ,who trespass against us…..”
      -Don’t you believe that, this seemingly “selective,divisive and discriminatory” approach will keep us apart,divided and polarized for ever and prolong our STURGGLE for Justice and Real Change in Eritrea?
      Conclusion:
      Irrespective of the “truthfullness” of what I said above and what people think and perceive,the issue should be addressed officially so that people with this kind of “Misperception and Attitude” should have a better and correct understanding about the issues in question.
      Remember
      that this is NOT just my attitude,perception,understanding,etc..,but that of lots of Eritreans.
      Bottom Line:
      There is ONE MAJOR FACT and TRUTH:
      That we Eritreans have remained divided,polarized,suspicious (against each other),etc–and the worst,we are working for all these divisiveness,polarization,etc…and yet,we’re expecting SUCCESS while we are working against SUCCESS! And we know what we are doing!!Damn it!!!!
      The WAY forward:
      -Reconciliation!! With whom? “With every body as SAAY said it in one of his recent Articles.
      -Let us Forget and Forgive—-so as to be Forgiven!
      -it is time to sit down and talk to each other–seriously,openly & honestly at any expense,under any circumstance,any where and any time-ASAP though!We are running against time!!!!
      May the Almighty God FORGIVE us and Have His Mercy on us and Enlighten us.
      Disclaimer:
      I am fully responsible for what I have
      said above and,in the event,if I messed up and offended any one,I sincerely apologize and I take it back and I STAND corrected.
      -The above challenge and grievance is addressed to the involved parties–the EPDP and its leadership,the EFND,the Medriekh,the NC,the ENDC,the Activists,the Media people,the NGOs,the Opportunists,Intellectuals,the Religious and their Leadership,the Artists,the Musicians,the Farmers,the Dummies,the Youth/Women,etc…in particular and the Eri peolle in general.
      God/Allah bless us all!
      Happy Holiday Season!!!

      • Saleh Johar

        Dear Hope,
        Is the “your excellency” you are addressing supposed to be me?
        Just wanted to be sure before I reply.

  • Nitricc

    PIA’s memo to the oppositions:
    “I have six locks on my door all in a row. When I go out, I lock every other one. I figure no matter how long somebody stands there picking the locks, they are always locking three.”
    Elayne Boosler
    Nitricc’s memo.
    http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/fa/1d/a4/fa1da4faed3d3b93605f7a1eca5dd187.jpg

    • Hameed Al-Arabi

      Those National Congress men didn’t sell Eritrea when she was under the colonization of Ethiopia; I wonder how does it become rational to accuse them of selling it when she is independent?

      • Nitricc

        There is a Liberians saying and it goes like this.. and chew on that.
        “A child may play with his mother’s breasts but not with his father’s genitals!’

        • Hameed Al-Arabi

          This is the field you revolve around the whole of your life. What more do you know about that for those concerned to be enlightened about it. FYI, Awate is a political and social website.

    • saay7

      Nitricc:

      After the week we have had, just for fun, I would like to challenge our smarty pants awatistas to treat Elayne Boosler’s quote as a math challenge. Those who excel in probabilities and permutations can enlighten us on the odds of cracking Issus door open. I am making the assumption that the doors have deadbolt locks (not combination locks) and the possible outcome of each lock is 2: locked or unlocked.

      Any takers? Let’s see, 6 factorial….

      saay

      • Saleh Johar

        Saay,
        a maximum of 720 attempts will get you through.

        • AOsman

          SG,

          You are correct with the 720 which is the same as 6! as SAAY pointed out. On the samsonite bag, with the right technique 2222 is not as bad as you think, check the following clip that uses tensioned clip. It is all about speed…only few minutes job.

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNhiP0itSYU

          Nitricc,

          I would say rather than unlocking, arrest the man who locked them, the solution is in his pocket and less of a hassle :). Anyway, where is Tsatse, he used to come with some weird maths questions….

          Regards

          AOsman

      • Nitricc

        SAAY; I will try for the hack of it but I have no doubt Haile will bust it in a minute. SAAY that is exactly what is going on between the opposition and the government of Eritrea. If you think about it, that is all Elayne Boosler’s formula PIA using.

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