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“Made In Ethiopia”: Review by Semere T Habtermariam

Book Review By Semere Tesfamicael Habtemariam
Title: Made In Ethiopia
Author: Dr. Mohammed A Nurhussien (MD)
Publisher: Red Sea Press
Year: 2020
Pages: 300

In his book, “The Constant Outsider,” Thomas M. Cirignano has written that, “Each of us is a book waiting to be written, and that book, if written, results in a person explained.” Made in Ethiopia is a book about Mohammed A. Nurhussien; it is his life story; it is his memoir. I am not quite sure how much the book explains his personhood, but when I talked to him, for the first time after reading his book, there was a sense of deja vu; a weird feeling that I was talking to somebody I had known all along.  No doubt, he is very cosmopolitan, urbane and sauve, but beneath that veneer of sophistication is also that quintessentially Tigrayan character of modesty and politeness. I have always liked Tigrayans; in fact, I have never met a Tigrayan I didn’t like, and Mohammed Alamin Nurhussien was no exception. 

Made in Ethiopia is the odyssey of the frail little boy from his humble beginning in Adwa to the academic halls and hospitals of Europe, Ethiopia and America. Although Mohammed pursued his education and training with unrivalled grit, determination and hard work and his singular goal was to return home and serve the people he loves,  the rapidly deteriorating situation in Derg-controlled Ethiopia compelled him to grudgingly settle, work and live in the Big Apple. The emotional and psychological ordeal was hard to bear, but the presence of his beautiful wife by his side, the late Zahra, made all the difference.

Mohammed Alamin was named after the prophet and like him he had the misfortune of growing up without his father. Due to the economic hardships his widowed mother faced, he had to be sent away to Gonder. Mohammed loved his mother, w/o Teberih Yesuf; he was very close to her, and she even loved him more, but the physical gulf that separated them rendered it indistinguishable from the loss of his father. The loss of his father and the separation from his mother made him a true orphan. It was not only in name that he was like the prophet; both had experienced the gnawing pains of loss and loneliness. No wonder, Prophet Mohammed made the protection of orphans and widows one of the central tenets of his message. Perhaps, Mohamed Nurhussien’s interest in charitable work might have been influenced and rooted in his early experiences in Adwa and Gonder.

Many years later, the person who came to fill the gaping hole in his heart, was the virtuous Zahra. She was his Kedejah, and like her, she became everything to him. She gave him and his three children a life abundant with love and generosity that most people could only dream of. She was truly the crown on his head and the rock that kept the family together. Although she was called Home too soon at the age of 52, the way she lived her life with relish, sharing her blessings with family, friends and even strangers is a testimony to her faith and good upbringing. Her life was only matched by the way she died. Many centuries ago, the French Renaissance philosopher, Michael de Montaigne, wrote that “to study philosophy is nothing but to prepare one’s self to die.” Zahra was evidently quite a student. Her equanimity and calmness in the face of her debilitating illness and imminent death evokes the patience of Job: sabr ayub

Although the loss of the two women, Tebrih and Zahra, whom he loved greatly was hard to cope with, the success of his three children and their abiding love keeps him going. And today, true to the adage that life begins at 65 in America, he is keeping himself busy through so many engagements in charitable and Human Rights organizations. Time has also given him the opportunity to reflect on his life and devote more time to the life of intellect. He is working on his second book on his involvement with Human Rights issues.

 In some way, Mohamed’s story is the typical story of a hyphenated-American, an immigrant tributary that replenishes the river known as the American Dream. It is what sustains  the American ethos and Mohammed can serve as its Exhibit A. One must be careful though to not let the familiarity and the evident personal and professional success of the author get in the way, for the book gently subpoenas each and everyone of us, particularly Ethiopians and Eritreans, to the court of morality, where we have to adjudicate our common humanity. What is the virtue of morality if we are only to speak against injustice when it only happens to us? 

In his book, “Emperor Haile Selassie,” the Eritrean scholar, Dr. Bereket Habte Selassie, a friend of Dr. Mohammed who also wrote the Forward to the book, raises the question. “Does it [Iassu’s vision] contain within it the possibility of reimagining a history in which Christians and Muslim citizens would be made to feel equally secure…? This is a serious question that all thoughtful citizens of Ethiopia [and Eritrea] should reflect upon. To that end, the history of the Iassu-Tafari feud provides useful lessons.”

Modern Ethiopian history is written from the perspective of Christian-based ethnonationalistic perspective. This approach is not only wrong but evil because it tries to undermine, or even worse, justify the wrongs perpetrated against Muslim Ethiopians. There is a need for all of us to understand the complexity of the past with all it gories and cruelties. Christians could still celebrate their heritage while making the ugly truth of the past known. The uncritical acceptance of past heritage is not the best way to show pride and love for it. The truth, as the Bible says, shall set us free. The hurt that one feels from confronting one’s truth is temporary but its liberating effect endures.

 Mohamed A. Nurhausien has told us his truth, his story, and I hope we are worthy of it. Giving up the right to reflect upon our past and the duty to remedy its mistakes is to surrender to prejudice and ignorance. Nothing is more demeaning than the constant feeling that one doesn’t belong in one’s own country.

Ironically Mohammed was born in Adwa, the once small trading city with a population of 15,000 in 1894, which has morphed to become the pride of Ethiopia and Africa. Adwa was the scene of the 1896 battle where Ethiopians, through sheer courage and unparalleled love of the Father-land, fought and defeated the invading Italian army. One would think that being indigenous to Adwa would make an Ethiopian feel to be the gold-standard of belongness, but, alas, this was not the case for most Tigrayans under the reign of Menelik and Haile Selassie. The child Mohammad has two strikes against him; he was a Tigrayan and a Muslim to boot. 

Mohammed was born in an era where Christianity was an integral part of an Amhara and Tigrayan ethnonationalism. With the rise of the triad anointed kinds–Tedros, Yohannes and Menelik–the institutionalized exclusion of Muslims became the norm in the so-called Christian Island of Abyssinia. The Church was seen as the only unifying and mobilizing force that would bring the society that was divided and fragmented under the Era of Princes: Zemene Mesafnt. The Anointed Kings ushered in an era of intense intolerance, where Muslims in the Christian center were their primary victims. Mohammed’s ancestors were forced to adopt Christian names, to at least conform outwardly, and spare their lives. Some were forced to flee into Eritrea, Sudan and Somalia.

When religion becomes the basis of law, nothing good comes out of it. Anything that justifies exclusion is evil. The bane of harmonious existence and mutual respect is intolerance and the denial of differences. The unity-in-diversity should not be a gimmick slogan but a way of life. There is a strong temptation in both Eritrea and Ethiopia for Muslims to mirror the ugly legacy of religious ethnonationalism. It is wrong, short-sighted and has to be resisted. There is a better alternative where all communities of faith can live together and thrive. It is called secularism, but it has to come as a result of negotiation and not confrontation. Those pseudo intellectuals who have tried incessantly to portray secularism as a dirty word should be ashamed of themselves, and frankly, we have let them blabber for far too long. It has to stop. 

One can’t deny that the heavy-handed and top-down approach of the communist regime of Mengistu Hailemariam has done more for the betterment of Muslims in Ethiopia, but any kind of imposition does not root out evil from peoples’ hearts and minds. More needs to be done and it starts by developing a curriculum that reflects history from all perspectives.

Mohammed’s book doesn’t suffer from the usual moralistic hyperbole and historical myopia associated with zealots who want to change the world; it is simply the story of an innocent child who went through the most egregious experience where his Christian teacher in Gonder would not even extend him the most basic human courtesy of calling him by his name. Mohammed happens to be the most popular name in the world, and perhaps, the one that invokes the most pride among the 1.8 billion Muslims. Alamin was also the nickname of the prophet given to him by the Meccans before he became prophet because he had a reputation for trustworthiness. 

When Teberih and Nurhussien named their child Mohammed Alamin, one could only imagine their pride and love of their faith and their prophet. When little Mohammed memorized the Quran, he became a big hit within the Muslim community of Adwa and it earned him some much-needed bakshish. This was no small feat for a child who didn’t even understand Arabic.

To the man of the cross of Gonder, Mohammed was simply, “Ante ‘Slam.” Mohammed is not bitter. In fact, the love he displays towards his Christian Ethiopians and Ethiopia is beyond belief. The best men at his wedding were Christians and so were most the people who made his success possible, but there was something terribly wrong to be an Ethiopian Muslim in Ethiopia. During the two Eids, when Haile Selassie extended his holiday greetings to the Muslim community, the Muslims go through the most painful and demeaning experience because it was in those times that they became acutely aware that they are not regarded by their Christian counterparts as co-owners of their own country. The king would refer to them as “Muslim residents of Ethiopia.” What a disgrace? 

During his sojourn in Algeria, my friend Suleiman A. Hussien was once asked by an Ethiopian fellow, “Why aren’t you proud of being Ethiopian?” Suleiman retorted, “Be glad I’m not Ethiopian. If I were, I would be the least proud. Nothing would infuriate me more than to be regarded as a resident Muslim in my own country.” No wonder the overwhelming majority of Eritrean Muslims were against union with Ethiopia.

The problem in Eritrea, the so-called Abbyssinian periphery, is not as bad as the Christian center in Ethiopia, but the degree of badness should not be used as an excuse. An Eritrean Muslim friend of mine, Derie Mohammed Debas, the son of martyred EPLF father and sibling to a martyred EPLF brother and an EPLF Tegadalit, who made it alive and now works for the Eritrean government, had to delay his urgent travel to Europe because no one at the Immigration Office could read his Muslim marriage certificate, Aqeda, written in Arabic. There were five windows open and most of them were not busy. They told him nonchalantly to return with a notarized Tigrinya translation.  I was not sure if I were appalled by their stupidity or callousness, but it showed me that we have a systemic exclusion in Eritrea. 

If we are to root out the systemic exclusion against Muslims in Eritrea, we first need to let the bells of freedom ring in our hearts. What happens to the Golden Rule, “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.” If you’re an Eritrean and were not perturbed by the data of civil servants and the military leadership that Ahmed Raji presented to us, then, our problem is much deeper and much more concerning. 

Just imagine a Tigrayan Muslim of Axum, who is not allowed to build a mosque in his native town. I completely understand the importance of Axum for all Tewahdos, and I am one and proud to boot, but the preservation of our Tewahdo heritage should not come at the expense of Muslims’ rights. Our humanity should be much more important than any faith we follow; afterall, the essence of all faiths is the ennoblement of our humanity. 

The Tigrayans could follow the Vatican model and give the Archbishop of Axum (Nubura ed) his own sovereign quarter, but making the entire city inhospitable to mosques is simply wrong and it contravenes the Christian precept of loving thy neighbor.

Being aware of prejudice and systemic exclusion does not make one a bigot. It is the first step to taking actions that can help in eradicating injustices. We need to be on the side of those who speak against injustices. One thing that life has taught me is that those who risk their life in speaking against wrongs are hardly wrong, and imperfect as I am, if I have to err, I would rather err on their side.  

The world can be a terrible place; it often makes us feel lost, but it can also be an amazing place where the once lost could now be found. I don’t have to agree with Islam to defend Muslims, all I need to do is speak against injustice. Let’s not let silence kill us. Our initiation into humanity starts with a cry, that is when the battle lines are drawn against our mortal enemy, silence. When we finally lose the battle against silence, we die. From the cradle to the grave, let’s speak up and pump up the volume.

Tolerance and mutual respect is the only way a harmonious existence is possible in a pluralistic society like Eritrea and Ethiopia. Any religion that serves as an integral part of ethnonationalism or a basis of a national law would be a recipe for disaster and we need to speak up against it wherever we are. And it is for this reason that the right to freedom of expression is a fundamental human right. Expression, verbal or written, is the best way we express our humanity. I want to speak up against past and present injustices in whatever religion and ideology they are justified; it is the only way I should live and the only way I want to live. 

In reading Made In Ethiopia, the personal history of Ethiopia will be unfolded through the prism of a Muslim Ethiopian. It is about time we listen to all the voices that make us who were. When we silence others, we are silencing a part of us. Personal stories of the likes of Mohammed Alamin Nurhussien open our eyes and help us imagine ourselves in the shoes of others. It makes us better citizens and even more better people. Both Christianity and Islam teach us of the importance of compassion but what is compassion if it is not preceded by empathy. Stories help us to empathize and Made in Ethiopia is full of it.
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A copy of Mohammed A. Nurhussien’s book can be purchased directly from the publisher RSP or Amazon. Please click on the links: Red Sea Press, Amazon

Semere Tesfamicael Habtemariam is the author of Reflections on the History of the Tewahdo Orthodox Church History of Tewahdo Church and Hearts Like Birds Hearts like Birds. He can be reached at his email: weriz@yahoo.com

About Semere T Habtemariam

Semere T Habtemariam is an author and a columnist at Awate. He holds a BA in Government and Politics and a MA in Public Affairs from the University of Texas at Dallas. He lives in Dallas, Texas. His two books are: Reflections-History-Abyssinian-Orthodox-Tewahdo and Hearts-Like-Birds.

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  • Simon Kaleab

    Selam all,

    Read all about it on Breitbart!

    Bevan Cooney, former business partner of Hunter Biden, gives access to Peter Schweitzer to around 26000 of his emails detailing the inner workings of the Biden family. From Russia, Ukraine, China, Khazakistan and to the middle East, billions and billions, it’s all there.

    Schweitzer is the author of ‘Secret Empires’, which is about corruption among the DC elites and their families.

    • Nitricc

      SK; you seem to be obsessed with Biden; while you are at it, can you dig and tell us what your beloved Dick Cheney too?

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    ‘ንታይ ትብሎ?
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    ደንቆሮ?
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  • Hashela

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  • Berhe Y

    Selam All,

    Wonderful news. Eritrean Ibrahim Omer (ኢብራሂም ዑመር) elected to the NewZealand parliament.

    https://setit.org/1797-ztbwic/?fbclid=IwAR3XfU7UWgVsq6zWswXGGlRK51l95sLNWnYElT0G3W4dwBrWz02pLpo4Ecs

    Berhe

  • Brhan

    Hi Awate forum particpants and visitors

    The link for UAE Hands Over Hanish Islands To Eritrea ….

    http://www.ccdf-ye.org/en/2020/05/31/uae-hands-over-hanish-islands-to-eritrea-with-complicity-of-tariq-afash/?fbclid=IwAR0kcQBsq_T-UKFcAHfieL06hhKOXzFN1OVlNN-Bc9QLfspguyU7ZiQ2GZ0#:~:text=The%20United%20Arab%20Emirates%20

    You can also visit Dr. M.Kheir Omer*, Face Book. He informs that Africa Inteligence (AI) confirmed the handover of the Islands. According to AI says, Dr. Omer, the handover took place last month.

    * Dr. Omer is author of The Dynamics of an Unfinished African Dream: Eritrea: Ancient History to 1968

    • A.Osman

      Selamat Brhan,

      It must be a temporary security arrangement. Otherwise, tinkering with internationally settled issue will come back to bite us. In the meantime, I feel sorry for the locals who will have to endure the abuse of the mafia regime.

      Regards
      AOsman

    • Hashela

      Selam Brhan

      Selam Brhan

      I would like to highlight couple things:

      Firstly, in the link that you provided, it is said that “… Yemeni fishermen had been attacked by military naval boats of the State of Eritrea while fishing west of The Great Hanish Island.”

      While the Hanish Island and the low tide elevation surrounding the island belong to Yemen, it seems that anything else west from there is Eritrean sovereign territory. Eritrea has the right to protect its sovereign territory, including the maritime one!

      Second, according the Tribunal decision (see below), Eritrean fishermen are explicitly allowed to fish in the maritime territory that is awarded to Yemen. But Yemeni fishermen are NOT allowed to fish in the maritime territory that is awarded to Eritrea.

      Thirdly, any opposition that harms legitimate Eritrean interest and bargain with sovereign Eritrean territory is doomed to fail to attract a broad segment of the Eritrean population.

      Below is the arbital award:

      “THE TRIBUNAL

      taking into account the foregoing considerations and reasons,UNANIMOUSLY FINDS IN THE PRESENT CASE THAT

      i. the islands, islet, rocks, and low-tide elevations forming the Mohabbakah islands, including but not limited to Sayal Islet, Harbi Islet, Flat Islet and High Islet are subject to the territorial sovereignty of Eritrea;

      ii. the islands, islet, rocks and low-tide elevations forming the Haycock Islands, including but not limited to, North East Haycock, Middle Haycock, and South West Haycock, are subject to the territorial sovereignty of Eritrea;

      iii. the South West Rocks are subject to the territorial sovereignty of Eritrea.

      iv. the islands, islet, rocks and low-tide elevations of the Zuqar-Hanishgroup, including, but not limited to, Three Foot Rock, Parkin Rock,Rocky Islets, Pin Rock, Suyul Hanish, Mid Islet, Double Peak Island,Round Island, North Round Island, Quoin Island (13°43’N, 42°48’E0,Chor Rock, Greater Hanish, Peaky Islet, Mushajirah, Addar Ail Is-lets, Haycock Island (13°47’N, 42°47’E; not to be confused with the Haycock Islands to the southwest of Greater Hanish), Low Island (13°52’N, 42°49’E) including the unnamed islets and rocks close north,east and south, Lesser Hanish including the unnamed islet close south,Near Island and the unnamed islet close south east, Shark Island, Jabal Zuquar Island, High Island, and the Abu Ali Islands (including Quoin Island (14°05’N, 42°49″E) and Pile Island) are subject to the territorial sovereignty of Yemen;

      v. the island of Jabal al-Tayr, and the islands, islets, rocks and low-tide elevations forming the Zubayr group, including, but not limited to,Quoin Island (15°12’N, 42°03’E), Haycock Island (15°10’N,k42°07’E; not to be confused with the Haycock Islands to the south-west of Greater Hanish), Rugged Island, Table Peak Island, Saddle Island, and the unnamed islet close north west, Low Island (15°06’N,42°06’E) and the unnamed rock close east, Middle Reef, Saba Is-land, Connected Island, East Rocks, Shoe Rock, Jabal Zubayr Is-land, and Centre Peak Island are subject to the territorial sovereignty of Yemen; and

      vi. the sovereignty found to lie with Yemen entails the perpetuation of the traditional fishing regime in the region, including free access and enjoyment for the fishermen of both Eritrea and Yemen.

      Source: https://legal.un.org/riaa/cases/vol_XXII/209-332.pdf

      • Brhan

        Selam Hashela,
        Thank you for your comment. I agree with you with reargd to our sovering rights based on the arbital award. And there is no question of how to protect our sovering rights. But the incidents that mentioned in the news are one thing and the handing of the Island by UAE to Eritrea is another thing.

        • Hashela

          Selam Brhan

          the reason that I appended the arbital award is to show that the Hanish issue is legally settled. UEA has no right to give sovereign Yemeni territory to Eritrea. I wouldn’t be surprised if the ultimate source of the unfounded allegation is TPLF.

          • Brhan

            Selam Hashela ,
            I know it is legaly settled. So is Badme. But the main problem for us is the absence of an Independent media in Eritrea. I believe you agree with me that the only way for me and you as well as others is to share Eritrean news by citing authentic referneces and with intention to discuss and understand.
            And secerets and hidden infromation will have a time to be revealed, says the hidding meaning of an Arabic proverb: Today’s news worth money but tomorrow it will be free.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Brhan,

            Suppose what’s being told is rue, that is UAE gives Hanish to Eritrea. What exactly that could mean.

            Is Yemen being broken up into different pieces abd UAE is solely deciding who get what?

            Suppose Eritrea military is occupying, then what and for how long? And what good can it do with it, that it didn’t do anything for the other 100 islands abd the whole Red Sea cost that it owns.

            And what would UAE concern in Yemen in the first place.

            What ever it us, it’s just temporary until the Yemeni case comes to some conclusion and who ever comes to power will collect what it belongs to them.

            From Eritrea point of view, what ever it is, it’s just another reckless IA adventure like everything else he has out his hands on.

            Hashela,

            If TPLF is behind it, would it be so hard fir tge Eritrean government to issue a single line stating “Hanish belongs to Yemen and Eritrea has no hand in it” to just refute anyone if that’s the case.

            I don’t know why do we have to make excuse for lack of competent to our government.

            Berhe

          • Hashela

            Selam Berhe

            The regime is indefensible and I am the last person wanting to defend it.
            By committing horrendous crimes to its own population, the regime provides enough targets on which the opposition should focus. My point was: No need to bring unfounded allegations that are a welcome distractions for the regime from the domestic issue it is creating. If you haven’t noticed, the regime is very quick to pick up such accusations and chews them for weeks and serves them repeatedly.

          • Saleh Johar

            Hashela,
            Very true. I wish we were more carful receivers of news than just consumers of whatever is thrown at us.

          • Haile S.

            Selam Berhe, Hashela, Brhan and all

            Thank you Brhan for bringing it and Hashela for digging into the story.

            Berhe, we need to not defend the regime’s incompetency, but the false narratives need to be exposed withoutt complicity.

            This a story that stick. Our regime voluntarily became a sticky advertisement board by its deeds and by its thuggish carelessness.

            By its deeds it had no means of defending even the most absurd stories that came out of the TPLF Getachew Reda’s security department in Ethiopian and Seyoum Mesfin’s foreign ministry blaming Eritrea for everything that pops in Ethiopia.

            This story even coming from other quarters now, is the same story. It is a story that sticks because the advertisement board is very sticky and readily receiving anything.

            This story is accompanied by a very attractive tourist destination island (Mirihi island resort in the Maldhives) used in the article to represent Hanish island and as a bait to attract the eyes and the attention of the fishing reader. The alleged crime needed to be on a beautifuly serene place and people. The author thought it was not enough and wouldn’t make sense if he used the true pictures of the Hanish islands.

            The culprit are Eritrean soldiers who beat 54 innocents fishermen. The crime needed to be spiced up with the confiscation of all except one boat left for all the 54 fishermen, so cruel!

          • Berhe Y

            Selam Haile,

            Always with great deal of detail when you read things. I agree with you and who ever is the author, I hope there is some follow up and challenge. The website looks legitimate site reporting in the atrocities against the Yemen people.

            Based on that, I don’t know if I can say honestly this is “false story” and it needs to challenged. We just don’t have enough information on what IA and his government is involved in.

            Afna meliEna kinzareb ayniKeln.
            At least for me.

            Berhe

          • Haile S.

            ሰላም በርሀ፡

            ካይትስርነቕ ብቓልካ
            ኣይትዛረብ ኣፍካ መሊእካ
            ኩላሶ ካይትተርፍ ኣብ ዓንቀርካ

            የግዳስ ጊዜ ወሲድካ እንተሓይኽካዮ
            ዓጽሙን ስግኡን እንተፈላሊኻዮ
            ኣይከውንን እዩ ኩሉ ወዮ

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Haile S.,

            I think we are losing our common sense. I never defend what TPLF does or not but I just can’t accept that all the things “considered bad” is to blame them for.

            What I am saying is, even if it’s true that they are the source, we too have the same access and sane means to fight back. As I said, one liner twittter respond from our minister of information would us all what it takes.

            So personally, I would rather see the government take action instead of going on speculation that we can’t prove who the source might be, or the author have created the story.

            I am lazy, I am just saying, let’s take the lazy way out. And leave those who try to “create false names”, “Hirir dea belu” approach.

            Mahmud Saleh said it best, when we were EPLF we use to “nTeASaSeF”, that’s what I mean.

            On a different note. Have you seen Dr. Abiy interview in Tigrinya (short clip) with a Eritrean journalist. What do you make of that.

            Imagine how this interview goes is going to be questioned and interpreted.

            Berhe

          • Haile S.

            Selam Berhe,

            ምፍርራህ? ወሪዱኒ! ኣነ ወዲ ማርያም ኪልዓው፡ ኣየፈራርህ፡ ኣይፈርህ 🙂

            I thought I was going along what you said. You must have misunderstood me.

            BTW why can’t you write in tigrigna alphabets?

            On Abiy’s interview, can you give more info so that I can find it? I found the long interview of more than 1hr two months ago.

          • Berhe Y

            ሰላም ሀይላት

            እዛ ቅነኻ አይተረደአትንን:: ናትካ ጥራይ አይኮነን: ዋላ መሀንዲስ እንትእኾነ እውን ዝገደደ: ሐሸላ’ን ተወሲኽዎ:: አነ ድየ Nitricc ተቀይረ አይተርድአንን::

            ግእዝ ከመይ ጌርካ ትጵሕፍ ኢለ ደልየ እዚ ናይ አማርኛ ረኺበ:: ሐደ ሐደ ፊደል አይርኸብኩዎን::

            I can’t seem to find the link, I got it in Twitter.

            Berhe

            https://twitter.com/eriasmarino/status/1317361098883010562?s=21

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ብርሂን
            ዝያራ የድለኪ ሎ መስለኒ።
            ቢራ ምስዓተርኩ ስለዝረኸብክኒ ማዕለሽ ኢለኪ ኣለኹ።
            ሞድ ከይዋሓጣ ንከሎ ነዚኣ ጠውቕ።
            https://www.lexilogos.com/keyboard/amharic.htm
            መቸም ከም ናይ ሎም ሕያዋይ ኣይኮነልክን የ ‘ሞ “ጭር ኣብልለይ” ትብል ደርፊ ይዕድመኪ ነብሲ
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAbb4kEhHxI
            Sorry Mod, this is my first and last violation 🙁

          • Berhe Y

            Selam Mehandis,

            Thank you. The link you gave me looks great. I will give it a try.

            Some how I can see that hanging out with you a lot in another time:).

            Thank you for the music..and I am sure you have heard but I will share a great song that I have been enjoying lately…..looked up Master KG – Jerusalema.

            If you want to learn the orignal Jerusalema dance move challenge look up, who made the song popular.

            Jerusalema Dance Challenge- By Fenomenos do Semba🇦🇴 Master KG

            It will go really well.

            Berhe

          • Haile S.

            Selam Berhe,

            Good to see you writing in Geez. I use Geez IME on Android. It is cool!

            I speak wax & gold mostly with Abi. There was none here.

            Thank you for the link to the interview. Interesting! Because there were no announced specifics, for me as a far placed observer, Abiy’s and Isayas’s agreements are all about very high expectations. Abiy’s expectations can be guessed. They consist of the best access to the Eritrean ports and most importantly base for the Ethiopian Navy and a role in the red sea. At least he clearly pronounced his ambition for the later before he even visited Eritrea for the first time. What is difficult to guess is Isayas’s expectation because he never pronounced any future expectation beyond vengeance and empty bravado. So to answer your question, Abiy was hinting at his expectations when answering the journalist’s question and what Isayas can get in exchange.

          • Berhe Y

            Selam Haile S.

            I think economic opportunity between the two countries benefits both people, such as energy export from Ethiopia and other goods, airline services etc. and for them the use of ports, tourism use etc should be common sense let alone for leaders but it is for an average person.

            The problem with our guy is always HibiEbiE. It’s obvious what Abiy was hinting Ethiopians need but I like his emphasis on having peace, sooner or later there will be change in Eritrea.

            There was other news item that I saw with regards to Ethiopia development on it’s path to have maritime and the training of the officers that’s it’s undertaking.

            If it’s done openly and legally there isn’t any reason why, Ethiopia should not have a base in Eritrea just like others are doing, as it’s important to it’s economic future and security, specially when Abay becomes fully operational it would make sense for Ethiopia to have an eye in the Red Sea to mitigate any risk… It’s upto them where they would like to have their base, could be Djibouti, Somalia, Somali Land or Eritrea.

            Abiy is playing a long game…

            On the other note, there is lots of kung Fu and Karate going on in the Ethiopian army training….and latest I saw is in Tigray… wey seb deqey belet

            Berhe

          • Haile S.

            Selam Berhe,

            I agree with you on the economic relationship between the two countries. Eritrea was & is suffering for the last >20 years from the inevitable. The inevitability is well know to our regime and its opposing political forces and to the southern neighbour protagonists. The by-whom and with-whom for such strong relationship weakened Eritrea and disperesed its youth. The responsibility lies first on the regime as well as its opposing political forces. The more these two forces entertain their animosity the more will persist the problem and more handicapped they will become in their future economic and political programs for the country.

            Eritrea is at a crossroad. The economic plan we have seen getting implemented by the regime is in contradition to the one followed by Ethiopian regimes. At least peace should prevail in Eritrea first to bring the economies into certain equivalence and harmony.

          • Barbaro A

            Hailat, Birhan , Berhe and A Osman :
            Why were the Yemeni Fishermen in the Sovereign Waters of Eritrea,in the first place( a repeated crime and violation of Eritrean Sovereignty).

            Criminalizing our Gallant Naval Forces doing their duty by risking their lives 24/7 while we are sitting in our comfort zones?

            Are you kidding me?

            Am I missing something ?

            Eritrea and “The GoE” have been victims of such bogus claims, fake news and DEFAMATORY campaigns as Ikhti Sara said it.

            You remember what the SELL OUT, Mercenary Beshir Ishak of the EDA reported to appease the TPLF( as per the order of same TPLF)?

            I protested against the EPDP for reporting this in its website…
            “ Eritrea is sponsoring the Iran-backed Yemeni Rebels ( Houthis) and was training them in GhindaE”!

            “ Iran has a naval base in Dahlak and took over the Aseb Refinery”!

            “ Israel has also a Naval Base in Dahlak”.

            All the above false reports were spread by the Major Arab Media in Cairo and the Middle East;and we all know who sponsored or paid them to do so.

            Kab BeHaliUs DegamiU!

            U may hate to death the PFDJ Regime but you cannot jeopardize Eritrea, its Sovereignty and National Security Interest in the name of hating or trying to “Weed out the PFDJ”, if at all you have the gut and the ability to do so.

            For God’s sake, why are we cursing or demonizing the same “INNOCENT” GoE, which complied with the Intl Laws and Verdicts?

            I see the self-appointed “Detective-in-Chief” gurregnaw Derghi “Left-over” Abi… jumping in excitement!
            Blame the junky Facebook .
            Bye ….for two weeks.

          • Haile S.

            Selam Hope,

            እንታይ ድኣ ንግሆ ንግሆ ጥምቀት ፈቲኻ? Barbaro ኢልካ ሽም ከ እንታይ እዩ ትርጉሙ? ምሸት ምሸት መርዓ ትብል መጽሓፍ ትዝከረካ’ዶ?

            ክልተ ሰሙን ምጥፋእ ድኣ ትውሽብ ዲኻ ዘለኻ ትውሸም? በል ፍሽኽ ክትብል ኢለ እየ እምበር፡ እዛ ሕማም ካባኻ ንክትርሕቕ ሙሉእ ትምነኢተይ እዩ።

            ብፖሊቲካ ሕርቕ ሕርቕ ኣይቐድምካ!

          • Abi

            Hello Barbado
            One thing consistent about you is your Seasonal name changes.

          • sara

            selam ahshela,
            how about the info we get from time to time , that Israel has a naval
            base somewhere on the islands of eritrea.
            there was also …. Iranian bases in dahlak islands….
            even Egypt has acquired an Island , and it was widely quoted in the media during the recent Egypt vs Ethiopia Dam dispute.
            now eritrea is taking an island from yemen////???

          • Hashela

            Selam Sara

            Accusations you listed is a peculiarity of the Arab- Eritrea relationship. It has an element of ሓማት-መርዓት constellation. The bride does everything to assure the mother-in-law her allegiance to the new community. The paranoid mother-in-law, however, keeps inventing stories to substantiate her unsubstantiated doubts and faer and makes hard for the bride to adapt and fit in. And don’t forget the unholy role of ንዕልቲ።

          • Selam Hashela,
            Wherever the news may have come from, most probably, it is a sinister fake news meant to destabilize the region. Eritrea is not in need of an island donated to it by a power that has no rights over it. What Eritrea and the whole region for that matter need is peace and development. UAE wants to control the island of Socotra that is situated in the Indian ocean at the mouth of the red sea, and it may need an accomplice to do it. It is not going to work. Better avoided.

          • Hashela

            Selam Horizon

            In a region with elements that need conflicts to thrive, the nascent peace effort between our countries is only superficially welcomed.

          • Barbaro A

            Come on Hashela:
            Why are u being distracted and confused by Brhan et al?
            This is a “self-declared Journalist” , who claims to believe in Journalistic Ethics and,who tries to teach us the Ethical Code of Journalism; and yet, acting against the Ethics of Journalism.
            Few here were attacked mercilessly and threatened for bringing up more reliable news but considered as fake new by the Moderators .
            Double standard at its best.

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    መዓልኩም!

    መሃንዘል ‘ንታይ ‘ዩ ስራሕካ?
    መምህር ይኑቨርሲቲ
    ዋእ!
    ደጋፊ ህግደፍ ድኣ ከመይ ‘ልካ?
    ‘ንድዕልካ

    ኤእ! ሓቂ በል
    መሃንዘል

    ካቦ ናይ ህግደፍ
    ወዲ ገዛውተይ
    ወዲ ላመይ
    ብድሕሪኡ ደኣ
    ሸለው ናብታ ጸድፊ
    ‘ያ ታሕልመይ


    ምሁር-ደንቆሮ ካብ ኮንካ
    ንታይ ክብለካ
    የግዳስ
    ይግበረልካ
    ባቃ!

  • Nitricc

    Marcus Hutchins is a self-taught computer genius who works in cyber security. The 22-year-old surfer lives with his parents and didn’t attend university. He also managed to save the entire world from one of the most damaging cyber-attacks in history

    The question is how?

    • Berhe Y

      Hi Nitricc,

      What’s your question?

      Berhe

      • Nitricc

        Hi Berhe; if that is the case why would want to send your kid to a university to study IT or computer science? why waste four year of your child’s life and waste four years of tuition? i am just asking, why would you do that?

    • Hashela

      Nitricc

      The kind of an extraordinary success and shortcut you are describing is possible. But it is an exception rather than the rule. The average people, like me and you, have to earn the comfortable life we have through long and arduous education path

      • Nitricc

        Hi Hashela; i agree but my message had two folds. One with this technology era, tell your children the difference between hobby and profession and the second, we have a forum participant who think IT is the greatest learned man’s profession and he bombarding us with bragging and all BS and i just wanted to make a point to him that what he does, can be done by high school dropouts. That is all.

        • Berhe Y

          Hi Nitricc,

          we have a forum participant who think IT is the greatest learned man's profession and he bombarding us with bragging and all BS and i just wanted to make a point.

          I don’t know who you referring to, I miss this

          Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            Are you back hallucinating. When did Dr Abiy participated in this forum. I thought you made some progress in the last couple of weeks.
            ጉድ ነው!
            Ac Milan v Inter tomorrow.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Abi,
            You know what colonel Gaddafi said once: Africans can name many EU clubs but not that even their owns.
            Who cares about EU soccer clubs? Typical slave mentality.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Mehandis,

            He Mehandis, what’s wrong with EU soccer. You sound like your good friend Nitricc. EU, America, Japan, we have to respect a good thing, I think.

            Is that why Gaddafi bought a spot for his son to play in European team:). In his 4 years as a professional foot ball in Italy he appeared in 2 games and for less than 30 minutes total:).

            Berhe

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Berhe,
            You missed the point. What he meant is if you neglect/undermined your own continent’s talent but admiring the EU’s or US, etc., you are undermining your own.
            You know what irritates me more, when some one try to sound educated or knows stuff and keep referring western individuals, and complain at the same time when those same people downgrade Africans. In stead of saying Aboy Gebre said this and that, they keep mentioning William said this and that.
            So, in stead if mentioning a good player from Hilal, they keep telling me from United whatever.
            Keep it real, man.

          • Berhe Y

            Selam Mehandis,

            I think you need to watch tomorrow game between Liverpool and Everton. You will get to see the the biggest African stars in the league.

            I have a feeling you are not a big foot ball fan:).

            Berhe

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Berhe,
            spell it out for those people who are not familiar with that term.
            I know what it is but I am sure a lot of people in this forum do not know what it means:
            Wedi abdela, wedi abdela
            gidef eba sekiEt keytqedelna

          • Berhe Y

            Selam Mehandis,

            I was referring to Eritrean soccer legend Ahmed Abdella. I wasn’t around when he played but my dad always remembers him. I think he may be the first Eritrean to play professional outside Eritrea.

            ወዲ ዓብደላ፡ ወዲ ዓብድላ
            ግደፍ እባ ሰኪዔት ከይትቀደልና

            I don’t know what it means, other than what I understood it means. He was the best shooter and nothing can stop his shots, as it use to tear apart the net.

            Berhe

          • Brhan

            Hello Berhe,
            He was in deed. Since links are allowed in weekend I just want to share with you this link about Ahmed Abdulla.
            https://globalsportsarchive.com/people/soccer/ahmed-abdulla/282088/

          • A.Osman

            Selam Brhan,

            From Berhe’s comment I thought he played in Asmara in the 70s or early 80s. At what age did Ahmed Abdula retire from football. Your link shows he is 64 (2020) and his last match 2017. Am I missing something?

            Regards
            AOsman

          • Brhan

            Selam A.Osman
            Ahmed Abdulla was born on 01/01/1956.
            You are right he played in the 70s and left Eritrea 1978 or 77. In 1978 he was selected among other two players to be a member of the Emarati Al-Ain football club. The other two players were Mehari Tkabo and Abdulrahman Abdulla (ፓቼ). The link also says he is assistant coach of the Al Ain football club til 12/2019. I have asked friends to there to update me , when I get it I will share it with you. BTW the club is owned by MBZ. There are a lot of info about the الغزال الأسمر (Black Dear) as he is known there but I will share with you these
            https://www.eri-internationalsports.org/post/ahmed-abdullah-ali-revisiting-an-eritrean-emirati-legendary-soccer-player-coach
            https://www.samadit.com/index.php/eritrean-forum/sports/2792-أحمد-عبدالله-يفتح-ملفات-الزمن-الجميل

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Berhe,
            Last time I met ወዲ ዓብደላ was in Dubai, different person from what I use to imagine. However, my respect for him was intact!
            It is very hard Not to be a a Football fan [not that there’s anything wrong with that] when your backyard faces Chichero. Next!
            For a moment, I invite you to this Seinfeld episode [easy part time opposition members, it is a joke]
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvSOgB-JPy0

          • Berhe Y

            ኣንታ መሃንዲስ

            እንታይ ድአ ስቅ ኢልካ ተለፋልፈና፡ ኣብ ኪንዲ ደሓን ቀንኹም ድዩ እዚ ኩሉ።

            በርሀ

          • Abi

            MM
            ይህን የግንበኛ ቀልድ ተወኝ አላልኩህም?
            Arsenal v City tomorrow
            The whole soccer loving world is waiting tomorrow’s games.
            You must live under a rock.
            የግንበኛ ነገር!

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Abi,
            Isn’t ግንበኛ related to Civil Eng.? I have nothing to do with that, maybe your new buddy, from Adi-Halo? 🙂
            I have heard he has visited the GERD? Have that cross your mind he may have another objective for that? God forbid.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            You are getting series and I am replacing you to take things easy. It was a joke:), are you becoming Sultan now. He is not going to get the joke, I ducking for the rest of the weekend.

            I should try to catch those some of those two games.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            I laughed when I see “Abi” and “serious” in the same sentence.
            How did you do it?
            You know how much I love giving you hard time.

        • Hashela

          Nitricc

          under the coat of internet anonymity, everybody can claim to be an Eritrean and can boast to have spent his spare times with Noble Price winners in one of the science fields. So I would not put too much values and weights on this kind of bravado.

        • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

          Private,
          Patrolling barracks is slow today? What happen to that showing your pay stub btw?
          BTW SWE and IT are not the same, FYI

  • Brhan

    Hello Awate forum participants

    There is news that United Arab Emirates gave back the Yemeni Hanish Islands to the regime in Eritrea.
    Links to follow in the weekend as early as Friday. Stay tuned!

    • Abi

      Brhan
      Great news indeed! Next UAE will return our ports.
      ልዝፈንልህ?
      መሄዷ ነው መሰናበቷ ነው
      ችላው ምንድን ነው
      ሄደች አሉ ባህር ባህሩን
      ነፋሻውን

      • Brhan

        Abi,
        Thank you for the song. FYI , the plane which IA flying, is from MBZ.

        • Abi

          Brhan
          We will give him a better airplane equipped with modern technology so that he doesn’t miss Bole Airport.
          Now I know why he got lost and found himself at Jimma.
          Abiy is tired of searching for him at “lost and found “ wing of the airport.

          • Hashela

            Abi
            By taking and accepting her lost son and providing him a retirement housing, Ethiopia would contribute significantly to the normalization of our countries. The trust he displays and the happiness he radiates whenever he is in Ethiopia is astounding and revealing.

          • Abi

            Hashela
            I agree with your observation except Isu is not ready for retirement. Until we find you the right replacement, he has to keep the position. Every time he comes home, he brings with him potential replacements for a quick interview.
            So far I like Asmara Rosie. A very strong candidate with an excellent pedigree and a King connection just like him.
            So far so good ሮዚና!

          • Hashela

            Abi
            ሓጺሩኒ እንትበልኩስ ተደቢሩ እስዕስዕ፣ ትብል ዓባየ ማመት!

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            I never thought there is a really good reason to visit Addis (I didn’t think it’s pedestrian / cycling friendly) but I think now I can say, it may be worth spending few days. I was watching the EnteTo park and I must say, it’s a great job by the government and everyone else involved. This may not be a worthy venture for Hashela but not bad 13 km hike / cycling trail. I can see Ethiopians will be in the Tour some day…

            When I see the pictures of our el president arriving in Asmara, he looks like a ghost. What shameful he must feel for absolutely doing nothing. Abiy in the last three years (weather it’s EPRDF or not) has few projects that are completed and few that are started and completed to boost from.

            Except going and visiting the development in Ethiopia what has he done? When he looks at himself in the mirror what does he see?

            Switzerland alone had exported 400 million worth of Gold from Eritrea. Where is all our money going?

            What can he say about his legacy? Yeah, dam here and dam there but where is the water for the people to actually use it. In Asmara, people still have to line up for the water truck to come and deliver water. There is no tap water, there is still water shortage.

            The other day, I was watching the founder of charity water video presentation and how he wanted to have clean water for everyone in the world. I had almost cried and was cursing our politicians and leaders (in most developing countries) for letting people live like that. I was happy that someone is doing something about it, by how hard it is that we are not able to do it ourselves.

            Anyway, I am glad to see this type of development and this type of vision. And it proves that it’s really possible to do it, it just takes vision and determination.

            P.S. If you really are our friend you do not wish ill to us. Asmara Rose, is really an insult to injury. I think you really want to see us suffer even more, our people deserve better.

            Berhe

          • Haile S.

            ሰላም በርሀ፡

            ዓቢ ክእለት ብልጫ እዩ ንኢሱ ስራሕ ጓና ምድናቕ
            ነውሪ ጌሩ ስለዝወሰዶ ገዛኻ ምስ ኣሕዋትካ ምንዳቕ

            ከም ኣንጭዋ-ማይ (Beaver) ሓጽቢ ይሰርሕ ኣብቦቦትኡ
            ማይ ዝነበረን ዓበይቲ ከተማታት ብፍጹም ረሲዑ ኣጥፊኡ

            እዚ ብታሕጓስ ዝፍንጫሕ ንዝነበሮ ኣሕዲጉ
            ንዘይብሉ እታ ዝተረፈቶ ዘሕድግ ባሕጒጉ
            ጓና ምሕቋፍ ዝለመደ ኣሕዋቱ ነጺጉ
            ፍጹም ዘይምሃር ደንዚዙ ዓጅዒጁ ኣሪጉ

            ቀደም ኮነ ሐዚ ብተስፋ ዝነብር ካብ ጎረባብቱ
            ዘይቀብጽ ዘይምሃር እምነት ዘይብሉ ኣብ ኣሕዋቱ

            ዕድለይና እዩ ኣሕዋት’ውን ዳርግኡ
            ካብ ጎረቤቶም ዝጽበዩ እዮም ከምኡ

            ምስ ኣሕዋቶም ልዝብ ምስ መታሕት ዳርጋ ረሲዕሞ
            ከም በቕሊ ኣቦይ ዓንዱ ይጥምቱ ስግር መረበ-ሃዘሞ

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            In case you haven’t paid attention, Consolation told us Isu built 400+ dams all over Eritrea. Some of these dams are as huge as Olympic size swimming pools. ኧረ እባክህ አልፎ አልፎም ቢሆን አመስጋኝ ሁን::
            He built all these and other projects while the country was under state of emergency. Now that Eritrea doesn’t have a huge enemy next door ( thanks for አቢቹ), there is no limit for the development of Eritrea. The purpose of his last visit was to see how a mega dam should be built. He is expected to build a couple of them on Tekeze river.

            I suggest you delay your visit to ሸገር by couple of years . In about 3-4 years the Addis River Project is expected to be completed. There you will have the best experience riding your bicycle.

            I see you rejected my choice for the next Eritrean President. Looks like you are not ready for female president. Since we have at least 15 years to replace Isu , you might have a change of mind.
            Take it easy.

          • Nitricc

            The trust he displays and the happiness he radiates whenever he is in Ethiopia is astounding and revealing.

            Hi Hashela; I won’t read to much in to it. It is true what you have observed but knowing PIA’s vindictive-ness, he was just sticking it to the weyane. I truly believe that. He knows how much it hurts the weyane to see PIA allover Ethiopia, including very sensitive state compounds. When Suyum Mesfin said” Abiy allowed Isassais to rap Ethiopia, you know how much he is hurt and PIA knows that and he is playing with them. Personally i have no problem with what is doing to them. they tried to destroyer him for the last 20 years and he is sticking it to them and they are hurting and i am loving it.

          • Brhan

            Abi,
            For that I will invite you a cappuccino and pastry at bar Impero, down town Asmara, or in your favourite that you used to go, tell me which one, and I will be there. This is as a starter….

          • Abi

            Brhan
            My favorite place is ዝነኛው ይገባዋል ጠጅ ቤት at አራት ኪሎ::
            ተቀበል!!
            Pastries and cappuccino are for the likes of Berhe.
            በስመአብ!

          • Brhan

            Abi,
            This is to tell me you have never been to Asmara. I can’t believe it!

          • Abi

            Brhan
            I have never been to Asmara. Did I miss something?
            Tell me something exiting.

          • Nitricc

            hahahahaha so why are you giving all the grief? lol shame on you, toothless. you never been to Asmara? How about Eritrea?

          • Abi

            General
            Look who is talking?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?
            I’m waiting for you to clear the way.

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Abi,
            This guy knows no shame. He claims that he is Eritrean [when he was Teff fed Gojame], and he blames a Neftegna Amhara for not visiting Eritrea?
            At the same time he try to be more Eritrean than Eritreans. Illiteracy at its peak!

          • Abi

            MM
            The General will visit Gojam before he visits Asmara.

          • Brhan

            Abi,
            Ok , What about Massawa or Assab?

          • Abi

            Brhan
            Never been there.
            My First Lady has visited Asmara and Massawa once. She spent a week in total.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            Only a week….eway entay koyna..entay weriduwa

            Behe

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            She will do better in the future.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            I don’t blame her, may be she missed her king.

            Try to go with her next time, then sing together “ab ketema miSuwaE, tiqa gemgem Bahri”. while enjoying pearl of Red Sea.

            https://youtu.be/AqxhwQ-0SYU

            Watch the Giro this weekend.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            It is in the future plan.
            Everton is playing Liverpool tomorrow. I can’t wait. It is an early game. Big game. Don’t miss it.

    • Selam Brhan,

      Maybe you have heard the proverb “Beware of Greeks bearing gifts”. It alludes to the Trojan horse that was given as a gift to the city of Troy, a means to capture the city.
      One has to ask what is the catch? The UAE has no rights to do that, as i understand. Is it a way to implicate Eritrea in the war it couldn’t win itself, and has been forced to withdraw? This is the time when one has to look at the horse’s teeth before one accepts the gift.

      • Brhan

        Selam Horizon,

        Thanks for your comment. Your question is valid. But, I believe you agree with me that there is a big problem with regard to knowing about what is going on in the region. Our private media are closed. Only today I read journalist Temesgen Desalegn was released in Ethiopia. We and by we I mean Eritreans, Ethiopians and even Egytpians and Saudis , Emarati are having no access to information. There can be slight differenes from one country to another, but overall information is in the closet of the regimes. Yemen is in civil war and the UAE is a big boss there. So it can do what ever it likes to do but I agree with you this won’t bring the peace we need.

    • Hashela

      Selam Brhan

      If we like it or not, the decision about the ownership of Hanish Island is made and Eritrea has accepted it. As Horizon indicated, UAE has no mandate over Yemeni territories. Some Arabic news papers and web sites seem to spread a lot of trash.

      • Brhan

        Selam Hashela,
        It could be that even a single source is not saying trush. Also, see my reply to Horizon and I belive you agree with me.

    • Aron

      Hi Brhan,
      That is great news. Is there applicable law we can use to appeal and overturn the prior ruling to your knowledge.Aron

      • Nitricc

        Hi Aron; there is nothing great about it. it was settled, the rule law has spoken and that is what it is. Eritrea shouldn’t accept. what is done is done and Hanish Islands is Yemen. Was is wrong verdict to begin with? Absolutely! but the rule of law has its say and that is the END!

      • Berhe Y

        Hi Aron,

        Are you series asking this question or you are doing so for the fun of it

        If any final and binding ruling can be appealed then what the hell is the point going to arbitration.

        Please don’t say I am not a lawyer excuse. It’s simple common sense.

        Berhe

        • Abi

          Hawna Berhe
          It is time Ethiopia claim its ports and the whole Assab region. Yes, Assab and the whole ደንከል is Ethiopian throughout mankind history.
          የቀድሞው አሰብ ራስገዝ ለህጋዊ ለባለቤቱ ይመለስ!!!
          እናሸንፋለን!!

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            I know why you wanted Asmara Rose to be our next president. So she can continue to weaken us and strengthen you and come after our ports. We know your tricks…”God protect me from friend I don’t know not from the enemy that I know”.

            Don’t worry Dr. Abiy is going to build you “sew serash amadam beach”.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            Leave ሮዚና ማእሬ alone. She is the future of New Eritrea! አዲስ በቀል ኤርትራዊ! Now this is what I call “Made in Ethiopia”.
            If the ports don’t come to us, we will go to them. Don’t make it unnecessary complicated.
            ሰው ሰራሽ አመዳም?
            እዋይ አንታ ሓውና!

        • Aron

          Hi Berhe,
          I am dead serious. Borders have changed many times in many countries in the last few decades. The verdict was not fair to begin with. Nothing is written on a stone. look what they are trying in the US packing the courts trying to change once thought settled laws. Aron.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Aron,

            Give me example, a boarder ruling that went to court and settled. Yes, it’s written in stone.

            The US is all internal matters that involve their citizens. US is not going to court to settle it’s boarder with Canada, Mexico or Russia.

            What’s next change the boarder between Eritrea and Tigray.

            Berhe

          • Aron

            Hi Berhe,
            What about the whole east Europe, German Ethiopia, Sudan china .Borders change all the time during yours and my life time. as we speak Crimea and probably ukraine. for the last sentence yes. Aron

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Aron,

            You started by asking “Is there applicable law we can use to appeal and overturn the prior ruling”.

            Which of these example above fits to your reason original question “applicable law / appeal / over turn prior ruling”.

            None of the above example you gave involves other people make a decision on behalf of others land. Those examples involve the decision of the stake holders.

            East Europe the easter europe countries decided to separate.
            Germany, the German people decided to unite.
            Sudan, the Sudanese people decided to separate.

            The exception would be Crimea depends who you ask. Ukraine says it’s illegal and Russia says it’s legal. But Russia being a super power may have some influence no ordinary countries can have. Even then it has paid heavy price economically.

            If Yemen decided to give us back legally saying, I don’t want it you can have then your logic make sense. Other than that, it’s a done deal….like my favorite Ethiopian professor Dr Dereje Zeleke says “qijit new”.

            By the same token, TPLF / Tigray deciding on the faith of Eritrea and it’s land is simply “qijit”.

            Berhe

          • Aron

            Hi Berhe,
            I don’t know if it is a done deal. It looks like Yemen may not exist in its old form. The only sure thing right now if the news is true is our land is in our hand again with unknown future. It sounds like good kijet until it lasts. My 18 years old son introduced himself to golf and he is taking me to golf. I hope am going to like it. Never played golf before
            Aron.

      • Brhan

        Thanks for your comment .I am happy it is triggering various points for discussion. To answer your question: in theory No but in practice we are seeing it everywhere in the world with various excuses and the best example for us like crystal clear is our lands that are still under Ethiopia or literarily under Tigray regional government. It seems the PF(DJ) are implementing the Tigrinya proverb: Betrey Aleni Zehmqo Aleni! with the Yemen.

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    መዓልኩም

    መሃንዘል
    ንምንታይ ህግደፍ
    ትድግፍ?
    ጎሪሐ
    ዝያዳ ግን ፈሪሐ

    ንስኻኸ ኣባ ጥረግ
    ስለምንታይ ህግደፍ
    ትንዕቕ?
    ነቒሐ
    ከም ንቡር በሊሐ!

    ህግደፍ ንመን ይኣምን?
    ዋላ ሓደ
    ስለምንታይ ደኣ ይስዕብዎ?
    ሰብ ዕደ
    ስጋብ ዓንቀሮም ብደዐ
    ብጥቕሞም ‘ዮም ዝብል ወረ
    ሰሚዐ!

    ኣባ ጥረግ
    ስልምንታይ ግን ህግደፍ
    ምባል ተብዝሕ?
    ወይለከ!
    መንደሎ ‘ዩ ካልእ
    ሃገርናን ህዝብናን ዘብርስ?
    ባህልና ዘርስሕ
    ሃገርና ክድምስስ
    ብጻዕቂ ዝሰርሕ
    ናይ ግምጥልሽ ፖለቲካ ፈሲሕ
    ቤት ጽሕፈት ዓዲ ሃሎ ርኢስ
    ‘ዚ ነጅስ

  • Nitricc

    Hi All; i see some Eritreans are contributing to Tigray’s locust fight. I was conflict between two thoughts. One is, simply humanity. It doesn’t matter you must help when someone is in trouble. besides, when the Eritrean help Tigryan’s on fighting the locust and if the locust stopped in Tigray, that is directly helping Eritrea. if the locust stopped in Tigray, Eritrea will be spared. i got that. on the other hand, how can you be so sympathetic for the thugs who know what was coming but they gave the priority in to fake election and BS poetical games. it is clear the thugs don’t care about the people of Tigray. This writer helped me to make up my mind.

    ውሑዳት ሃገራውያን ናይ ምድንጋጽ ዓይነት ተርእዪ ኣለኹም
    ኣንበጣ ዝበልዖ እኽሊ ትግራይ
    ክንድቶም 20 ሽሕ ሃገርና ካብ ወራሪ ስርዓት ትግራይ
    ንምክልኻል ዝኸፈልናዮም ሰማእታትና ኣየደንግጽን እዩ
    ኣንበጣ ዝበልዖ እኽሊ ትግራይ
    ክንድቶም ንብረቶም ተዘርፎም ብፒጃማ ዝተሰጎጉ 90 ሽሕ
    ዜጋታትና ኣየደንግጽን እዩ
    ኣንበጣ ዝበልዖ እኽሊ ትግራይ
    ክንድቶም ብደላሎ ተጋሩ ተታሊሎም ኣብ ባሕርን ስሃራን
    ዝጠፍኡ የሕዋትና ኣየደንግጽን እዩ
    ኣንበጣ ዝበልዖ እኽሊ ትግራይ
    ካብቶም ብሰንኪ ናይ ዓሎቕ ማዕቀብ ን20 ዓመታት
    መድሃኒት ስኢኖም ዝሞቱን ዝሳቐዩን ዝነበሩ ዜጋታትና
    ኣየደንግጽን እዩ
    ባድመ ካብ ኤርትራ ትዓቢ ኢሮብ ካብ ኤርትራ ትዓቢ ኢሎም ኣብ ጎደናታት ትግራይ ዝጭርሑ ዝነበሩ’ኮ መራሕቲ ትግራይ ኣይኮኑን ህዝቢ ትግራይ እዩ ።
    ድሐር’ክኣ ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ኣይጥመ ኣብ ጽፍሩ ዝኣምን’ምበር
    እርዳታ ንኢትዮጵያውያን ብሐፈሻ ሐድሽ ኣይኮነን።

  • Nitricc

    Hi All; the relief is felt from Mekelle all they way to the states, upon hearing the news that PIA is back in Eritrea. It was a traumatic event for the thugs, severe enough they put their bottles away to take a nap. They haven’t slept in the last three days; they were in drinking marathon for three days straight. They just couldn’t believe what they are seeing on the TV on their own eyes. I guess, they never imagined PIA will stroll all over the GERD as fine inspector. I guess they never thought PIA to walk all over Ethiopian Air force and observe everything there is to be observed. They never thought PIA to concluded with the newly built Enteto-Park and when all this happens, the thugs were watching the events on TV like you and me. We have seen Siyum Mesfin’s anger and disbelieve but I wanted to see more.
    Anyway, enough about the thugs but I thought it was a good productive trip for both countries. What I have seen in my opinion is, two countries building trust among each other to ease any suspicion and to say “you see! I have nothing to hide” kinds of relationship. PIA took PMAA to Sawa and PMAA took PIA to the used to-be mighty the Ethiopian air-force. The moral of the story is, it is clear that they are ready to go on full engagement on economic, military, security and diplomacy, however; they also know that there is a catch. To do what they have planned, there is one obstacle, TPLF! And they know TPLF must be eliminated. And they know as long as there is TPLF, none of their visions will come true. So, in my opinion, the elimination of the thugs just started. Although, TPLF offered mediation and PMAA rejected it, that shows you who got the power and the upper hand. Mind you, the federal government has sent highly respected religious people to Mekele for mediation and TPLF rejected them disrespectfully. Do you know why they the mediation rejected? you guessed it, the Hachalu death was on the works and the disorder that follows the death of Hachalu supposed to finish PMAA and PIA for good. Remember when Mesfin Hagos declared that he will work with Tigray, that was the deal and the plan. Looking back, it wasn’t a simple plan and it is miracle PMAA controlled the situation. The thugs were in-full with Jawar and Bekelle Gerba while for Eritrea, Mesfin Hagos was the chosen one. Well, good for Mesfin Hagos he is in Europe while the Jawar and his friends are in prison, most probably will never see the day light.
    RIP TPLF thugs.

  • Dongolo

    Howdy all. LOL. The cookie is crumbling. ‘October 13, 2020 (Ezega.com) — In a surprise move, at least 20 members of the Tigray People Liberation Front (TPLF) have joined the ruling Prosperity Party defecting from their regional party.’

    • Sultan

      Dongolo:
      Is this what u tried to report?
      “Eritrean Christians Released From Prison, Sparking Further Arrests“!
      Vision.Org
      Come on ….
      We need more and better .

    • Selam Dongolo,
      These must be tplf politicians who are true to the people of tigray/ethiopia, and have realized that tplf has lost truck and it is sacrificing the interest of the people of tigray for the sake of the mafia group from adwa. They are abandoning the sinking ship to save the people and the region.

    • Aron

      Hi Dongolo,
      Can we do that in Eritrea. Can we join other parties when we disagree with our party. Focus. Learn from other countries experiences please. Aron

      • Lebam

        Hey Aron the self-proclaimed Agazian,

        Giving someone a lesson entails being able to lead by example, which an Agazian extremist like yourself can’t. Your leader Tesfazion made that clear to the masses.

        Go back and sit on your corner when subjects revolving democracy and civility is being discussed.

        Furthermore, the TPLF members jumped a sinking ship to save themselves when the noose got tighter. There is nothing commendable about it whatsoever.

        • Aron

          Hi Lebam,
          You are right in that I am an Agazian. I told you guys I am one through and through. You meant it as an insult. It is a badge of honor for me. I know your types technique. You say it enough and stigmatize a word or an idea until people start associating an idea with insult and live it alone. You got the wrong Agazian. You are wrong Tesfasion is my leader.

          You NNNN guys believe in black and white only. I believe in choices. TPLF in its history many times over had differences of opinion with in itself. The losers live the party and either form their own party or join whoever. You didn’t answer the question though. Noose or no noose they were able to live. Can we do that in our country. Aron z agazi.

          • Lebam

            Hello Aron,

            Yes, I meant it as an insult. I can’t stigmatise what already is stigmatised. A turd 💩 is going to smell like a turd, and look like a turd, no matter how much you try to polish it.

            Tesfazions channel can become terminated, because he isn’t following the guidelines. He is a hate preacher that is inciting ethnic and religious violence. Who are your Agazian representatives?

            I have no interest in TPLF other than that they should stay away from Eritrean affairs and they can take Mesfin Hagos and put him in the trash were he belongs. TPFL’s 27 years of dictatorship have been discussed here and the opinion of them varies depending on the ethnic group asked. From an Eritrean standpoint they have committed many crimes against our people.

          • Aron

            Hi Lebam,
            Thank you for engaging. You see that is what I am talking about. You can disagree with Mesfin Hagos without beheading him. All those disappeared politicians and Tegadelti without a trace are because nsu’s intolerance to different ideas. Your anger at disagreement enables your demi god. You could have answered simple question without been disagreeable. My point, we have too much problems that we need to solve in our country before we look outward and try to make Ethiopia’s problems. If you want to keep outsiders out of Eritrea remind isu that is involving deep in the neighbor’s affairs. It is only natural for others to mess right back with you if you are messing with them.

            As about my view on the issue of unity of Tegarus on both side of the mereb, you are shooting at fast moving target. Hard to hit. live it to Tigrigna people. Time will tell.

            We don’t have shortage of bigots and extremists in Eritrea, Tesfasion is one of them. I hope he will be tried in free COURT for inciting Ethnics and religion discord with the right afforded to him to defend himself.. Aron z Agazi.

          • Nitricc

            Tesfasion is one of them. I hope he will be tried in free COURT for inciting Ethnics and religion discord with the right afforded to him to defend himself..

            Hi Aron, this is very strange? What makes different than your master Tesfatsion? you are senseless Agazi, and he is the head of it and your master. if you love Tigray that much you should go help them with the locust. I hate to break to you but there no such thing Agazi. there are Tigryans and the are Eritreans, anything in the middle just confused and lost souls, like yourself.

          • Abi

            General
            I don’t see any problem with the merging of the two Tigrinya speaking people as long as they are minding their own business. The problem I see is their hatred towards others.
            If the two Germans were allowed to merge why not the Tigrinya speaking people? It is only fare provided they do not antagonize the region.

          • Nitricc

            Ras Abiy; i know where you are getting in to. because the Tigryans refused to leave Ethiopia, you are trying to dumb them on us. No sir! Abiy is trying to do everything he can to encourage them to execute article 39 and be done with but if a tick, you need fresh blood and live body, Ethiopia. So, Eritrea is gone leaving behind the Tigryans and Tigryans should do the same, kiss good bye to Eritrea. For a recored there is a tigryan who minds his own business. They need an enemy to live.

          • Lebam

            Abi,

            Do you mean that you approve that Tigray splits from Ethiopia and merg with the Tigringa part of Eritrea to create new country? You are aware that they would be landlocked like Ethiopia and not have access to the red sea?

            Why would you support those who hate your ethnic group?

            Agazians can’t differentiate religion from ethnicity. Luckily those of us who are Tigringa, or Tegaru Muslims are able to take DNA tests to prove them otherwise. If you had good intentions for Eritreans you wouldn’t want this to happen. Maybe you just want to destabilise Eritrea.

          • Abi

            Hello Lebam+ General
            As a former staunch supporter of the unionist idea, I have learned a life long lesson not to hold people against their will. If Tigray people choose to be independent or choose to form the Agazian kingdom with their kind across the border, it should be their choice as long as they do it legally.
            I see nothing wrong with their wishes.

          • Nitricc

            Abiy So whay don’t respect the people of Eritrea’s wishes?

          • Abi

            General
            Now I respect the wishes of Eritrea. I wish I knew better growing up. As I said I was a big time unionist. We live to learn.

          • Haile S.

            Selam Abi,

            The pernicious problem of TPLF is that they consider their province as a Sequestrum (dead part in the middle of living body) or a Malignant outgrowth (cancer within a living tissues) that nag all normality around it. They completely forget the reality, i.e, Tigray is a normal province that can live in harmony with its neighbours, vibrant and ambitious as everyone around, no more no less. Tigray was no more ignored than other peripheral province by the past regimes. The conclusion it was (with the foundation of EFFORT & Co) that prevailed in the last 30 years is feeding such feeling. Time for TPLF to admit it was for political consumption that already served its purpose.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Haile, no one can said it better, the truth.

          • Abi

            መምህር
            Beautifully said!
            The propaganda that “Tigray was ignored “ was loudly repeated in this forum by Eritrean sounding activists in this forum.
            It is time to Tplf repent and make necessary actions to bring back the people to reality.

            I’m honored to call you መምህር.
            Thank you.

          • Nitricc

            Do you mean that you approve that Tigray splits from Ethiopia and merg with the Tigringa part of Eritrea to create new country?

            Hi Lebam I don’t if he wanted them to join with Eritrea but he is trying to dumb them anyway he can. lol The Ethiopians are tried of with the Tigryan leaders. What is funny is the Tigryans don’t want to be separated.

          • Haile S.

            Selam Aron,

            Alow me to say these:
            It is not a sin to be an Agazian. The problem I have is what the Agazian’s core values and objectives are. Is it ጸበል ማርያም ጽዮን or a political group with a programme? Could you summaize with few bullet points what Agazian represents and its objectives?

            & Aron who is your Moses? Based on the above response, not the one already in Israel. Then who?
            Say hello to Elisheba

            Thank you

          • Aron

            Selam Haile,
            like I said many times before I don’t belong to any one organization at this point until someone comes who can speak for all the people in Eritrea and Tigray. The only thing I do believe at this point is tegaru belong together Aslam and Kistan. I don’t define agazian by religion. Tigre sounds more Geez to me than Tigrigna. For me it is a political map. Alewha milash with all its islands. We are formidable and strong united, The Koreans have a unification party. Germans succeeded unifying their people. I don’t want eplf and tplf destroyed. I want a good leader to emerge and reform all the mess on both sides that is unifier who believes in laws. I am peaceful person who is not into all this crazy, harsh, divisive and shrill rhetoric.I know there are people who disagree with me on both sides of the river. I believe in democracy and may the majority win in free count of votes.Aron

          • Haile S.

            Srlam Aron,

            We have different takes then. For me there was nothing that looked like Korea or Germany related to tigrigna/tigre speaking people. Such stories are conviniently sewn now by those who yesyerday were swearing in their Ethiopianism for 27 years. There was Abyssinia always divided always and always at war. Part of Eritrea was part of this agglomerate like Tigray was. I don’t think we will arrive at an understanding even if we drag the discussion. Thank you for your response anyway. My understanding is Agazian is an idea there to serve those who want to disturb established order.

          • Aron

            Hi Haile,
            I respect your disagreement and much respect on how you handle different views without invectives. Thanks. Aron

          • Desbele

            Selam Aron,
            You are brave man! I dont even know what or who Agazian are but i have been called at times Agazian. You are the first in this forum to openly declare you are one. Please send a link that would explain their program if there is any. Or you may write-up a short brief. ካብ ላንጋ ላንጋ ሰብ መትከል ይሕሹ !!

          • Aron

            Hi Desbele,
            From what I read and understand from your writings, you are very reasonable man. You won’t like most of those who are out there. They are extremes. The one who changed my view completely for ever is Memhir Amanuel Sahle in a very short meeting. I got to go for right now to golf. i will be in touch.aron

          • Nitricc

            The one who changed my view completely for ever is Memhir Amanuel Sahle in a very short meeting

            You are even dumber that i thought. who will be convinced by Amanuel Sahle? i listen to him talking from Tigray one time and that old man is just plain stupid and to find some one is convinced becouse they met that old man is puuuuuuuuuuffffffffffffff. WTF!

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት

    ጥር ኢልካ ፍንፊና
    ዝያራ ናብ ጅማ
    ሕጽረት እምነት
    ኣብ ርእሰ-ከተማ
    ዶ ዋላስ

    የለማምዶ ‘ሎ
    ናይ ኢትዮጵያ ዓዲ ሓሎ
    ምምሕዳር ከትክሎ
    ይስተርኩም! ሰብ ኣበሲንያ

  • Nitricc

    Hi All; i have watch and observe the severity of the locust thing in Ethiopia and i am greatly discombobulated beyond point about the recklessness of the Ethiopian government and at stupidity of the Tigray leaders. The information about locust in Ethiopia was given by world community in June 2020 and again in August 2020. You will think The Ethiopian government will be more prepared and ready to attack at the source of the problem. Instead the Ethiopian government is busy opening parks all over the capital city. in the same token, the stupid thugs; instead of using the information and make preparation; they were busy spending their time, money and energy for useless and toothless rigged election. I mean when are the people and their problems gets priority? What was the most amazing and even funny is the Tigray thugs are blaming PMAA and the federal government for not helping in fighting with locust. I think ether TPLF the most stupid people who ever lived on this plant or shameless people and bottom feeders. Just last week the thugs were saying there is no federal government and Tigray don’t recognize PMAA and the federal, yet Tigray blames the federal
    for not helping in fighting the locust? WOW. You talking about messed up!

    • David Samson

      Selam Nit,
      A swarm of locusts have been breading for over two-years. The Who and its experts have been warning the Horn for over two-years. If two-years are not enough time to prepare, I do not know how long these inept leaders need to get their acts together. Every leader in the horn has failed. I think it is high time, we need to replace them with AI.

      A locus could potentially travel up to a 150 KM per day, so your beloved Eritrea will be with out any food left—if any— after day one, so hold on your celebration.

      • Nitricc

        hold on your celebration.

        Hi Dawit; what makes you think i am celebrating? I am just telling how your African leaders is bone-head. Say what you will but the likes of Covid and locust or another natural distributorship much better and result oriented than the fake democracy and fake elected officials. God forbid it won’t cross to Eritrea but guaranteed you Eritrea will do miracles. You know why? Eritrea got a leader who doesn’t believe and buy the white fake democracy thing that you Africans gets you killing each other for the last 60 years. Now vote for the weyane thugs to resin, you don’t need them. lol

      • Dongolo

        Selam David Samson. You are confusing WHO with FAO. Extensive monies have already been given to the HoA before to mitigate negative impact. Problem these days is that international funding is strained from COVID.

        • David Samson

          Selam Dongolo,

          You are right! I meant FAO.Do not divert the issue by bringing red herring. The FAO experts had warned the region over two years— well before the pandemic.

          Why is it always a resource issue and the west have to foot the bill? The inept leaders were busy messing up their citizen lives and did not get around to avert the impact. They should have raised the alarm in that they are unable to cope on their own and sought help two years ago, not now.
          I have run of patience with the horn leaders. I bet you an AI will do better job.

          • Dongolo

            Selam David Samson. The bigger elephant in the room is rampant population growth in African countries. Ethiopia for example has gone from 57 million in 1995 to 115+ million today. Aside from bad governance and foreign interference, no country which doubles its population in the span of 25 years, has much hope for social-economic stability. Relax…sit back and enjoy a cold Old Speckled Hen from your comfort vantage point.

          • David Samson

            Selam Don,
            The never ending lock-down is about to turn me into heavy drinker.
            Coming Saturday is a start of second mini-lock-down in London.
            Despite it is getting cold, I am still enjoying my Merrotti. when I visit the home of Mr Morretti, I will pay my respect and homage to the man who invented the most amazing beer in the world. Italians are not known for beer and in fact they are nor beer drinkers.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam David,

            The best beer in the world is Budweiser Budvar, Czech made.
            Please try it.

          • Saleh Johar

            Simon,
            You mean better than mellotti? Naah

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Saleh
            ቢራ እንደማይጠጡ አውቃለሁ:: መሎቲውን ማን ቀመሰልዎ?

          • Brhan

            ሳልሕ ሚ ትብል ሃሌካ ….ንብርዚ ዘርክብ የለን!

  • Nitricc

    Hi All; Some times, i wonder about everything. I would have expect Ethiopian airlines, Being 777 to land in Sawa. Never!!! if that is not chocking enough PIA is visiting and inspecting the GRED today. I am very sure, you will hear one of the corrupted old will have heart attack. I am guessing that will be Siyum Mesfin. Many fool people will say, nothing change happened and they just visiting one anther. That is not true, they are building trust among each other first and they will bring their people aboard. I can’t just imagine the likes of Debrestion, Siyum Mesfin, Abay Tsahaye and the rest of stupids will watch PIA rooming through out GRED through TV windows like the same a bar tender in Addis. lol. If you have to define death, that the horrible death, here is your script. I just can’t imagine their level of hate, shame, anger, hopelessness,regrade and the ultimate worthless-self-worth. When i sow PIA looking at the GERD map, the end for TPLF thugs.

    • Abi

      General
      As I promised you earlier, I will send you 300 megawatts of power when GERD is completed.
      Some years back ( 5-6 years) , in one of his three days long interviews, Isu said he will buy power from GERD if the price is right. ( you can find the transcript of the interview at Awate. Saay did a great job for those who could not sit and watch the interview and for some of us who don’t understand Tigrinya.
      Now he is visiting the progress of the dam. Sium Mesfin is dying of anger. How things change!

      • Nitricc

        Abi Have ever imagined to see this? I think this is a killer to the thugs. After all the years….. this happens.
        https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkNl68MU4AEdAQo?format=jpg&name=medium

        • Consolation

          Hello Nitricc,

          It is a powerful image. Who would have thunk it just three years ago when Tigrayan generals, bossing it over Metec, were looting the Dam dry. But Nitro, we will get a fresh wave of ጠፋእና ተሸጥና cries from the half-dead.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Conso; what do you think they feel upon seeing this picture? I have no words. Considering that the thugs were bosses of the GRED and at its completion; their arch enemy is walking all over it. God knows how many bottles of whisky are consumed tonight in Mekkelee

          • Consolation

            Nitro,

            I think part of IA’s trip is to indicate to the thugs that the game is indeed over. It is another nail in the coffin. GERD was meant to be the insurance policy for the TPLF thugs to rule Ethiopia for at least 50 years. Had they finished the project in time, had they engineered a mini-crisis with Egypt and stood resolute, it might have worked. Even Abi would have voted for the TPLF😃. But they were too stupid and too greedy.

          • Abi

            Consolation
            I believe all Ethiopians were ready to forgive and forget the Tplf sins and move forward with the new change until they conspired to derail it.

            I would have definitely voted for them if they stood against the disgraced Egypt. What makes Isu popular in Ethiopia is his involvement in reducing the tensions between Ethiopia and Egypt. Besides, we consider Eritrea as a buffer zone against Egyptian BS.
            As you said, they are greedy and stupid. They could have ruled Ethiopia if they reduced their corruption and nepotism.

          • Haile S.

            ሰላም ጀታው፡

            ብዙ ሓጥያት የፈጸመ ሰው፡ የሰው እና የቄስ የቃል ‘ይቅር ይበልህ’ በቀላሉ ኣይቀበልም። እውነት መሆኑን ኣያምንም። ለዚህ ነው በኣበሻ ባህል፡ ብዙ በደል የፈጸመ ሰው፡ ድንጋይ ረሱ ላይ ተሸክሞ በየደብሩና ቤተክስያኑ እየሄደ የጸጸት ጸሎት የሚያደርሰው። ድንጋይ ተሸክመው ደብረ ዳሞ ቢወጡ ይወጣቸው ነበር :-)።

          • Abi

            መምህር
            ታድያ ድንጋዩም ጫንቃውም ትግራይ ሞልቶ ተትረፍርፏል! ድሮስ ባዙቃ መሽከም ለለመደ ጫንቃ ድንጋይ ምኑ ነው?
            ምክርዎን እንደሚሰሙ አልጠራጠርም::

          • Selam Abi,
            Not Trump, who said he wished to cut the ribbon at the inauguration of the dam, but most probably, it will be IA and other regional African leaders at the ceremony when the GERD starts to produce the first 700MW of electricity next year. It could be that IA may go back home with the 300MW. It is said that IA likes dams, and he must have been happy when he saw the majestic GERD.

            As much as tplf is concerned, when they have to repent and apologize to the people of Ethiopia for the crimes they had committed over the three decades of their dictatorship, on the contrary, they have the audacity to tell the Ethiopian people that Ethiopians are ungrateful. They killed, looted and betrayed the country for the sake of its people, and Ethiopians should thank them for all these.
            Their arrogance and ignorance have no limits, and they are still fighting the country in so many different ways with the hope to return to power, which is more than impossible. They must suffer from mass paranoia. Their is no other explanation.

            It is really interesting to know how tplf old guards reacted to IA’s visit to Ethiopia and the big show that followed and still continues. They must be fuming and fretting and consuming a lot of alcohol to calm down themselves. It seems that Abiy is telling them that there is a limit to his patience. The last decisions by the federal government and IA visiting Ethiopia at the time tplf is in bad mood, seem to be the telltale sign of the end of the way for both.

          • Abi

            Horizon
            There is doubt that Isu loves dams. As a former student of engineering school, construction of mega projects is in his blood.
            My uncle dawit and Consolation have generously provided us with the water reservoirs Isu built in Eritrea. I’m sure he was exceptionally happy to visit the big dams.
            I hope GERD will be renamed ቀዳማዊ ኃይለሥላሴ ግድብ since he was the one who initiated the whole thing in the 60s. Now that is what I call Visionary!!! Vision being realized!
            As to the weyane retirees, they can watch the show on TV between diaper changes.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Abiy; I think PIA and PMAA are playing mind game with the thugs. There are many speculations in why PIA is in Ethiopia and said many things but for me, it is simple. Everyone PMAA’s opposition including TPLF thugs said there is no government after Sep-30 and PIA showed on Oct 2 just to crush the TPLF hearts deep in to their stomach. It is funny how this man, named PIA is hunting them wherever and allover. Nothing is more crushing then spotting PIA on GERD the day after TPLF declared that PMAA is expired. That was a dagger in to the thugs’ heart. So, the trip for PIA is nothing but to show the world he is behind PMAA.

          • Abi

            General
            Herman Cohen said the same thing. Isu is telling the thugs whether they accepted it or not, PMAA is the leader and he is behind አቢቹ መቶ በመቶ. He is also sending a strong message to Egypt and Sudan that he is behind the GERD .
            Now that is what I call buffer zone!!!!

            በነገራችን ላይ ወያኔዎች ሆድ እንጂ ልብ የላቸውም:: ልብ ቢናራቸው ኖሮ የነገሮችን አካሄድ ቢገነዘቡ ኖሮ አቋማቸውን በጊዜ ያስተካክሉ ነበር::

          • Nitricc

            Hi Abiy; I think Siyum Mesfin is losing it. He said, “Abiy Ahmed allowed Issaias Afowerki to rape Ethiopia”
            Wow They are hurt lol. How is it a little, poor and powerless can rape a country of 100+ mill with biggest dam in Africa? Hey Liar Siyum Mesfin; i got i message for you, go jump in the lake.

          • Abi

            General
            Can you believe he was the top diplomat for decades?
            ተዋሪድና!

          • Haile S.

            Selam Nitricc and Abi,

            Seyoum Mesfin’s filthy words remind me of a filthy joke we use to repeat as children on Hailesellasie. It is a kind of evening wish that goes like this in amharic:

            ሞዓ ኣንበሳ ዘእምነገደ ይሁዳ
            እኛ የ—– ሰው እንዳይ–!

            I am sure Abi knows it. Please read the message beyond the words.

          • Abi

            መምህር
            No idea.
            ኀይለሥላሴ ሐዋርያ
            የለውጥ መሪ ባለሙያ!!

            እነዚህ ወሮበሎች ናቸው ዲፕሎማቶች የነበሩት:: የደናቁርት ጥርቅሞች መጨረሻቸው እስር ቤት ነው::

          • Selam Abi,
            Have you heard of the mansions, six in number, built by ethiopian tax payers money with hundreds of millions and billions of birr for each, to be distributed to tplf kleptocrats? They are going to be sold by auction, and the lowest bid for each mansion will start with 200M birr.

            You can’t believe your eyes when you see the stylish comfort and luxury these mansions could provide. You have the impression that they are built for american millionaires, and not for former ragtag gorilla fighters. I don’t understand where and when they learnt such luxuries. One would think that they were sleeping in the field with a stone for a pillow and similar things. Indeed they came to loot the unfortunate country.

          • Abi

            Horizon
            Houses with 3 living rooms, three kitchens…
            እነኚህ የደንቆሮ ጥርቅሞች ገና ወደ እስር ቤት ይወርዳሉ:: ወራዶች

          • Consolation

            Abi,

            Unlike much of Ethiopia which is blessed with a lot of lakes and rivers, in Eritrea we have no lakes and our rivers are seasonal. Water is scarce. And since the fighters persevered for 30 years under those severe conditions, the need for building dams was impressed on their consciousness by that harsh experience. Thus, building dams for drinking water and irrigation became a priority. Hundred of such dams have done miracles in Eritrea. Today, every villager knows its value. I wish such consciousness develops in other countries. Your big dams, are on the hand, built for producing electricity. So Esu is visiting the dam more for its political messaging than your silly claim. I wish you stop this constant carping. It is not good for your spleen.

          • Abi

            Consolation
            I was talking positively about the reservoirs Isu built. If you take it negatively, it only shows your lack of confidence in the projects.
            Now, go ahead and fill the ponds with your crocodile tears.
            ፋራ

          • Consolation

            Abi,

            I am worried about your spleen. But if you want to destroy it and die young, that is your choice. I love my ponds, because they quench my thirst! ገሪባ

          • Abi

            Consolation
            ኢሱ እንደፀበል በጭራ ካልረጫችሁ በስተቀር ከነዛ ኩሬ ብጤዎች እንኳን ለሰው ለእንቁራሪት የሚበቃ ውሃ አይገኝም::
            ጤባ ብጤ ነህ

          • Consolation

            Abi,

            ጀዝባ: ያለ ጫማ ኣይደል ሱዳን የገባሀው:: ኣንተን መሰል ባላገር should be deported back to your village.

          • Abi

            Consolation
            የጥፍራም ነገር!
            እኔ በቺፖሊኒ ጫማ ነው ያደግሁት:: አንተ እስካሁን ከሼዳ አልተላቀቅክም::
            ጠብቅ የተባልከው ፍየል ጠፍቶብህ አይደል በረሃ የገባኸው? እውነቱን ተናገር

          • Consolation

            Abi,

            ቺፖሊኒ ያነ ወታደር ተቀረህ ኣስመራ ስትገባ ነው መጀመርያ ያየሀው። ከሻዕብያ ምርኮኛ ካምፕ ኣምልጠህ፥ ያ ሁሉ በረኻ ያለ ጫማ ተጕዘህ ሱዳን ስትገባ ኣይደል ኣቶ ሃይለ ሽዳ የሰጠህ።

          • Abi

            Consolation
            የሻዕቢያው ዋርድያ አንተ ነበርክ እንዴ?
            ስትንከረፈፍ ተሸወድክ:: እንኳን ሰው መጠበቅ ፍየል ማገድ እንደማትችል ሲረዱ ውሃ ቀጂ አደረጉህ:: የቀድሞ ድካምህን ስላልረሳህ ኩሬ ባየህ ቁጥር ሃይቅ ይመስልሀል::
            ከረፈፍ

          • Brhan

            Abi,
            What happened to your mood. Earlier you were singing songs. Oh, this is not good. Let me take you back to rock and roll. My choice is for legendary singer ( the ones you chose are not legendary)
            Tilahun Gesese…..Selamata (Afan Oromo) and not ወደፊት በሉለት ይለይለት!

          • Abi

            Brhan
            Take it easy. We are just having fun. Nothing serious. ቄራ በሬ ሲያስበረግግ እድሜውን የጨረሰ ጨላጣ የአዲስ ልጅ ነው::
            እስታዲዮም ዙሪያ ጆተኒ ሲጫወት ያለውን ተበልቶ ነው በረሃ የገባው::

            ሰላማታ ያከኔ ሰላማታ
            አርካፉኔ ያኢልሜኮ ሰላማታ

            የጀግና ሰው ክብሩ ዳር ድንበሩ
            የምን ጠላ ጠላ የምን ጠጅ ጠጅ
            ጠላትን መደምሰስ ቡና አርጎ ነው እንጂ!

          • Brhan

            Abi

            Ok, now enough fun and singing.

            As your class teacher , I would like to inform you that there has been a home work given for you by Teacher Berhe and you have not done it.

            Ironically the homework is about ቡና! Teacher Berhe wants the answer of his question:

            How do you number coffee ceremony in Amharic?

          • Abi

            Brhan
            አንደኛ
            ሁለተኛ
            ሦስተኛ
            ተጨማሪ ማብራሪያ ከምሳሌ ጋር
            አንደኛ = አቦል = ከፍተኛ ጥራት ያለው አቢ (Abi) ከሚለው ሥም የተወረሰ

            ሁለተኛ = በረካ =ጥራቱ የቀነሰ በርሀ ( Berhe) ከሚለው ሥም የተወረሰ

            አቦል – አቢ – አንደኛ
            በረካ- በርሄ- መጨረሻ

          • Sultan

            Abi:
            The facts on the ground speak volumes.
            It is just a matter of a year or two until you see the miraculous fruits;and now that PEACE HAS PREVAILED, the sky shall be the limit for both sisterly nations and brotherly people.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Cons,

            Take it easy..be human of internationalist and enjoy the life..once you categorize yourself with nations, then you will be living in narrow space and time..which will let you believe is to defend as..the way I see you again and again you are one party member and for nothing…be smart and open your chance..to live in the universe happy…

            Be open minded and you will soon see the advantage…

            KS,,

          • Consolation

            KS,

            A citizen of the world, a global citizen, a person who considers differences in language, religion, origin or race as trivial as the ordinary person considers differences of height or eye-color. In theory, it sounds good but very difficult to attain. The Europeans had to fight two world wars in which over 50 million people died before they decided to think in terms of Europe. Even then, the Brits are now exiting.

          • Sultan

            Conso:

            You missed one more major issue:
            Despite that this country has been so blessed abundantly with natural resources in general and water resources(rivers, lakes)in particular , it is known for faminescabd droughts!
            Beyond hypocrisy …. and mystery to understand this country and its people.
            Aside from “ banning” the proper utilization of our Marine Resources ( in the name of or allegedly due to security and funds) , no one could be prouder than Eritrea’s successful approaches with Water Catchments and Mini-Dams of significant importance!

            Eritrea over all,is indeed ,a bad example of good deeds on this particular approach and Warsay Program( The utilization of the National Service- minus its mismgt,weaknesses and failures in Eritrea considering the threats from the south and its sponsors).

            But my point is that those Peaceful and Stable Third World Countries could have effectively and efficiently benefited from Eritrea’s approach!
            Tigrai State , as of yet, has not achieved a minimum of what it should have had based on its resources allocated to it and considering the $600 million worth Tekeze Dam I and II.

            Am trying to make a point to those gurregnoch with empty bravados!

          • Abi

            King Sultan
            You miserably failed to make a point. Try again with more zeros and exclamation marks. እስቲ በዜሮና በቃለአጋኖ የተንቆጠቆጠ የግንባታ ፕሮጀክት ሹክ በለን::
            Let me show you how it is done.
            Ethiopia is going to build a new airport . Construction to be started this year.
            5 BILLION US DOLLARS!!!
            5,000,000,….. Tired of writing the zeros. Please help.
            እንዲህ ነው መጎረር!!
            ኢሱ የመሰረት ድንጋይ ሲቀመጥ በቦታው ይገኛል የሚል ግምት አለ::

          • Consolation

            Abi,

            1) $5B for an airport is too much. It is waste of money specially in a poor country like Ethiopia. You can build hundreds of schools, clinics and clean-water facilities. At most a million Ethiopians would benefit but it does nothing for 100 million Ethiopians.

            2) Where does this money come from? Most of it would be borrowed crippling the country with debt.

            3) Large projects, even in advanced societies, are risky because of cost over-runs due complexity and corruption. In countries like Ethiopia, a large percentage would be stolen by crafty politicians and collaborators.

            4) The only benefit is to make people like you feel good.

            With little fanfare about zeros, Eritrea is now in the final stages of the construction of the Gahtelay dam.

            Gahtelay Dam to be the Largest in Eritrea

            10 May 2020 – (EP) Built on a foundation as deep as 25 metres, 42 metres in height and 300 metres, Gahtelay Dam is the 3rd largest out of the 400+ dams in the country and holds 50 million metres cube of water.

            The dam length is now being extended with a higher 1.5 km to the east side (pictured in red line) to acquire 300 million metres cube of water to be the largest reservoir in Eritrea.

            Gahtelay dam is expected to provide potable water to its environs as well as to places as far as 42 km away in Massawa. Moreover, a tremendous amount of water is going to be available for irrigation covering swathes of pieces of land, which is estimated to be 50,000 hectares.

          • Abi

            Consolation
            I said the same before I read the details. It is going to be amazing. You know Addis is the gateway to Africa. The new airport is expected to serve 100 million passengers per year. That will make it one of the largest and busiest in the world.
            Hotels, maintenance facilities, training facilities….
            በቃ ምን ልበልህ የአፍሪካ ቁልፍ ልንሆንልህ ነው:)

            አንድ ጥያቄ አለኝ
            የትኞቹ ወንዞች ላይ ነው ይህን ሁሉ ግድቦች የምትገነቡት?
            ከአራት መቶ በላይ ግድቦች !!!
            I got a joke for you
            Two guys ( consolation +sultan) went grocery shopping around Boston, Massachusetts. After they filled their grocery cart with everything they need for a month, they approached the cashier at the express ( 15 items or less) line.
            After checking the cart, the smart cashier ( yours truly), said to them, “ you must be from Harvard or MIT”. They got confused by the cashier’s confidence and asked how he got to his conclusion. The cashier said either you don’t read or count.

          • Sultan

            Guaddu:
            I agree with you about the Bishoftu Airport and its potential.
            Speaking of the Eritrean Dams,you have to acknowledge -at least, the smartness of Eritrea to build such important dams for the short term Water Resources and Food Security !
            Amhara and Oromiyya have learned quite a bit from that project and now they are using the Irrigation System based Agro-industry …
            Do not be surprised if we BEAT U UP on the dams when we build the Red Sea Dam.

            Do not forget THESE:

            A)our $ trillion (1,000,000,000,000.00)worth world class and the largest potash mining in the world with 300 yrs of mine life

            B)not to mention the multi billion Fish, Tourism, and Salt industries ( more than 1,000,000,000. 00 combined annual income)

            C)as well as the LUCRATIVE Oil & Gas Drilling with close to 180 billion barrels of oil and trillions of ccc of natural gas( worth of close to another $trillion(1,000,000,000,000.00)…. estimated to be more than that of Saudi Arabia and Qatar COMBINED per the US Energy Intelligence Report!

            D)Oops, I forgot the multi billion $50,000,0000,000.00 Precious Metal Mining Industry with 50 yrs of mine life!

          • Sultan

            Conso:
            Add to the above that, that Dam is going to cover not only the entire Massawa and its environs, the Free Trade Zone and the Industries along with N Red Sea Zone but also the future “New Eritrea” Port city about 10-15 km away from Massawa (from GhindaE all the way to Marsa Tekhlai incorporating the miraculous Scenery of Semenawi Keih Bahri ( Filfil Solomina),raised during the SPECIAL DIASPORA PFDJ Meeting in Asmera few years ago, in case if you have not heard about it.
            Check for details with Amanuel Biedemariam of DC and Prof Habteghiorghis of New Jersey if you are nearby them /their vicinity.

          • Sultan

            Abi:
            I was an eye witness as to how the Derghi Era Beles Dam fund was embezzled to the max.

            The GERD Fund was equally messed up.
            The Tekeze Dam -I final cost was twice as much as its original allocated funds.

            Am sure, to Conso’s point, the $5Billion Bishoftu Project Funds will be equally embezzled even though I partially agree with you that the benefits outweigh the risks since it will pay off in all aspects in the long run( Employment, Job creation,Tourism,Infrastructure locally and beyond Oromiyya…. besides being Africa’s Pride on top of being one of the largest/ BIGGEST and busiest 21st century world class Airports taking over Dubai and the European Major Airports!

          • Nitricc

            Hi Abiy; i know HS had all the visibility study and the plan but time wasn’t on his side. I always hear about the Derg plan in ” Tana-Belles” but no one every explained it to us. what exactly happen in “tana-belles” and where is located Tana-belles. I heard people say that had the derg had a few peaceful years, Tana-belles was the grand plan. but no one to seem to explain. Anyone who knows about this please educate us.

          • Brhan

            Hello Horizon,

            I would like to give you my input because of IA factor.

            I believe the only purpose of this visit was to give legitimacy to PM A. Ahmed after he cancelled the elections due to “Covid 19”.

            How do you feel a staunch dictator ( who rules country for with no constitution, freedom of speech and rule of law )blessing PM A. Ahmed? Are not their elected gov’t reps in the neighbourhood to do the blessing. Even if PM A/Ahmed, is killing two birds with one stone ( TPLF and the question of his legitimacy) but don’t you think that will complicate more the already complicated political crisis in Ethiopia.

            Secondly, it the US and not IA who is significant and who can play vital role in the GERD issue. I was wondering why a news that I will share with you shortly was not made public by Ethiopia. It is related to GERD vis a vis the US aid cut.

            But before going to the news , I guess Trump won’t be in the inauguration and this, not because Ethiopia won’t invite him (because he cut the aid) but he won’t be in the Oval Office next year. May be Sanders.

            The news says ( I can’t put the link now) that the Ethiopian parliament has brought the issue of GERD again to table for discussions to come to a resolution that will convince the US that its ally Egypt’s interests are protected. The news said that this Ethiopian move is considered a change in Ethiopia’s policy. Do you think the Ethiopian gov’t is sincere in telling the truth to its people or do you think that it has right to do so for the sake of a national security issue

            Last but not least, what do you think of the images we are getting about IA visits from Ethiopia are rosy, most of the time taking photos with smiling Ethiopians, plantations, factories , university but we do not have the same images for PM A. Ahmed in his Eritrean visits?
            Have you asked yourself that?

            I hope I initated good points for discussion.

          • Selam Brhan,

            In this world everything is politics. IA is a big fish in a small pond. In my opinion, why he reacts the way he does when he visits ethiopia, is due to the fact that he lives even for that few days, the world that exists in his mind, i.e., IA, the president of the confederate (federated) states of ethiopia and eritrea. Confederation is said to have been his dream, of course until tplf spoiled it for him, because it had its own plan, as we saw over the three decades of tplf rule. The other reason for his elation whenever he visits ethiopia, is that his enemy tplf is defeated and he is dancing on its grave. PMAA has no similar reasons.

            I really don’t believe that IA can give legitimacy to the PMAA government; a thing the ethiopian people and the demise of tplf can’t give him. Yes, symbolic political support, he can give to Abiy. But, i don’t know how much it will be taken into consideration other than the effect it has on irritating tplf and as PR for internal, maybe external consumption as well.

            PMAA was forced to act in a docile manner for the last two years to appease tplf. On the contrary, tplf saw it as a weakness. Abiy has been forced to cross the rubicon as much as tplf is concerned, and not as much as the people of tigray are concerned. I don’t think that tplf needs more appeasement, but confrontation to show to the people of tigray that it is an illegitimate regional government, and thus bring its complete demise.
            For example, concerning the locust plague, the ethiopian ministry of agriculture asked the local ministry, and not the regional government, to give information on the spread of locusts in the region in order to send airplanes. It is dragging its feet. The central government is saying, we will wait, but you are taking the responsibility for the destruction of crops that would follow.

            The ethiopian government or the ethiopian parliament has no obligation whatsoever to the Trump government. Period. It has shown it last time. Ethiopia will never ever give up its rights over the Nile, even if blackmailed with an armageddon, let alone aid cut. That should be known to all. The ethiopian government has the obligation to the nation and posterity as well, to annulle the 1929 and 1959 agreements on the Nile, because it was meant to harm ethiopia. That is what it showed to trump when it started to fill the dam few months ago.
            Never expect change of policy on the blue Nile. The policy is one: ethiopia has the right to use its river without hurting others, but without succumbing to their outrageous demands or asking egypt’s permission, whether it has strong friends or not. The conspiracy of the two dictators, trump and al sisi, will not force ethiopia to abandon her God-given rights, which is different to the so-called historic rights, which don’t hold water. The lies that come from different news outlets from the middle east concerning the dam mean nothing.

          • Abi

            Horizon
            አዲስ አበባ በስድስት ቦታዎች ተደብቆ ስለተገኘው ብረት ሰማህ?
            -More than 1.2 Billion birr worth of metal
            -Four Tplf members are arrested
            – Some escaped to Tigray
            – The government is hunting more thieves
            -more news to come

            The purpose was to halt the construction of infrastructure and instigate violence.
            እዋይ ወይአነ!

          • Selam Abi,
            There was this story. Soon after the 1998-2000 war, tplf is said to have asked the ethiopian government (themselves) to return about 3billion birr to tplf businesses, because it borrowed money to carry out the war. I am not sure if it is true, but i find it intriguing. Do you have any idea about this?

          • Haile S.

            Selam Horizon,

            Such stories surfaced even before the war. Their Cadres were boasting saying their front had money and it was going to use it to build the country after the fall of Derg.
            It is weird! This sounds like a Superpower claiming saving a country from its neighbor and asking for remboursement. It is a sickness of gigantism.

          • Abi

            መምህር+ Horizon
            Just after the thugs took power in 1991, they reimbursed themselves handsomely for their expenses during the struggle times.
            If you control the bank and the tank you can do everything you want.

          • Sultan

            Spot on,Conso!
            The WORST mistake and the most unforgivable Serious CRIME of the century the THUGS made/committed ??
            You guessed it RIGTH!!

            Acting and doing things against Eritrea and Eritreans besides declaring a war on Eritrea and Eritreans and the unheard of atrocities they committed against Eritrea as a nation and Eritreans as a PEOPLE after that ugly war…
            Doing and repeating same and worse mistakes over and over and yet expecting a different or better outcome ( INSANITY @ it’s BEST!)

    • Saleh Johar

      Hi Nitricc,
      You are on fire. Trying to prove Muslims are always a suspect? You don’t need to work so hard. I will give you some indicators:

      Look at the Abyssinian history since 1250 and see if you can find any decade in which your perception about Muslins was not prevalent. Never. Muslims have always been the underdogs and on the receiving end of the Abyssinian theocracy. So, what you see is the continuation of Muslim victimization. But since you are searching for the truth, in the last 1000 years, there was no Muslim rule in Abyssinia excluding a 15 year of civil war. All the wars, aggression and oppression happened under Abyssinian theocracy. Go figure.

      • Consolation

        Hi Saleh,

        Be fair. I don’t see anything about Muslims in this particular post. And from his replies, he has already indicated that he is willing to learn.

        • Saleh Johar

          Consolation,
          It’s difficult to say if one is not in the shoes of the victimization. A little empathy is expected from compatriots not beating the already beaten half of society. Sometimes it’s so provocative one has to respond in unsavory manner. Thank you for your concern but I will bounce your remark back to you: be fair

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ሳልሕ
            ሽላን ዓሳን ኔሮም።
            መዓልካ ዓሳ ይብል ሽላ
            መስገኖ የግዳስ ቆሪረ። ዝባሕሪ ‘ምበር ካብ ንቡር ንላዕሊ ክቖርር ጀሚሩ ይብል
            ሽላ: ኩልፍ ኣቢልዎ: ‘ታይ ኴንካ ትቖርር? ቁሪ የለን ይብል
            ዓሳ: ወይ ጉድ! ኣነ ‘ኳ’የ ኣብ ዝባሕሪ ዘለኹ። ኣብ ሰማይ ኴንካ ቁሪ የለን ትበለኒ? ሓንሳብ ‘ሞ ኣብዛ ባሕሪ ጥለቕ ሽዑኡ ኣነ ክሓተካ ‘የ ይብሎ።
            ሽላ: ክላእ ዓሳ ድማ መስተማሰሊ ይብሎ።
            ዓሳ: ሽግረይ ክትፈልጥ ኣብ ቦታይ ምስ መጻኻ ጥራይ ዩ ኢሉዎ ናብ ውሽጢ ባሕሩ ይድቕደቕ።

          • Saleh Johar

            MM,
            That is deep for those who can honestly reflect.

            You inspired me to tell you another story:

            An eagle asks the fish: how is it going?
            Fish: grm, amlakh yemesgen (it’s qal Alem, though he is shivering with cold as you said)
            Another eagle asks the first eagle: how is the fish doing?
            He is very fine, he seems happy and doesn’t complain
            The story circulates around and someone comes to the forum and declares, “All the fish are happy”
            I just adopted your story 🙂

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Saleh,
            Your story explains perfectly the bizzaro world of HGDF’s 03!

      • Nitricc

        Trying to prove Muslims are always a suspect?

        Hi SG; I don’t if you remember about ten years ago; I was debating Haile-TG and he asked me that what would be the one most warring for me when it comes to Eritrea. I told him the unity of the Tigray-speaking Tigrigna people with Eritrea-Tigrigna speaking people. Had they the two agreed and worked together, I have no doubt that it could have led to a union and that could have ended the rest ethnics of Eritreans. Thanks to greediness and stupidity of the thugs; the lowland and Muslims Eritrean were spared from endless oppression and hostilities. My point is I am not only suspecting Eritrean Muslims but so is the Eritrea Tigrigna speaking Eritreans; I suspect everyone. Franky; I am not in to Muslim or Christian thing, I don’t care, I am simply for Eritrean. Everyone had died for this brave country; why not live in harmony and serenity? Like I have showed on my lists of crimes against the people of Eritrea, no Tigrigna speaker nor Eritrean Muslims were soared, all were massacred indifferently.

        • Saleh Johar

          Nitricc,
          If that is your core belief, then stop going into murky waters. Stick to the Eritrean citizen regardless of their underlying identities. Prove it in what you project. Otherwise, lip-service does not take us very far. Also, you have admitted time and again your knowledge about Eritrea is scanty. I would say insufficient for the topics you raise. A little humility would go a long way. For others who have been wallowing in such dirty politics for too long, they cannot help it. I gave up on them long time ago. Maintain you innocence until you learn enough. Don’t be impressionable and be swayed to follow the misleading niceties. I hope you take this as an honest suggestion.

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ኣለኹም ዶ

    ኣሰለት
    ምስ ዓሰለት
    ክሳድ ሕንቕ
    ስጋዕ ትወድቕ

    ሂወትካ ምስ ሓለፈት
    ምስ ኣተኻ ትሕቲ መሬት
    ደም መጽያ ዓረፈት
    ዋእ!
    ኣሰለት
    ‘ንታይ ርክባ ምስ ህግደፍ?
    ነዚ ‘ተዘይ ፈሊጥካ
    ብሰላም ዕረፍ

    • Kokhob Selam

      Thank you MM.

      Allow me to congratulate you for those very smart words…and welcome my friend መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ..Keep writing also in Jebena Page…

      KS..

      • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

        Good to hear from you, Kokhobay!
        Will do!

        • Saleh Johar

          Anta Mehandis!
          I thought you were contracted to build more dams by The coffee bean picker—I think engineers can build power grids, IT, engines. What’s the story?

          Welcome back

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Brother Saleh,

            Thank you ….

            Is that just synfhoerito replay to Abi,,

            “Kokobe ጀግናው
            እስቲ ጭቅጭቁን ለጊዜው እናቆየውና ዛሬ ኢሱ ከለቀመው ቡና አፍላልን::
            ምነው አንተዬ ጀበናውን አቀዘቀዝቀው? ኧረ እንዲህ መስነፍ ደግም አይደል!”

            Dear Abo, Just this is the reply to you also..Think about it With PIA visiting Jimma and today is he want to cultivate in his nation..I don’t know about the climate if it allows..But this among what is the conversation with your PM and both are not legal leaders..

            Eritrea was number 3rd for exporting coffee at the beginning…Just by taking it from her sister Ethiopia,,,,Ha Ha what a corrupted….

            KS,,,,

          • Abi

            Kokobe
            ኮኮብዬ ባንተ የሚጨክን አንጀት ከየት ልከራይ?
            እስቲ መሪህ በደከመ ጉልበቱ የለቀመውን ቡና አፍላውና ተሰባስበን ደህና ወግ እናውጋ:: ይህን ጀበና ጥዶ ቦለቲካ ከወዴት ተማርክብኝ ወንድም ታላቅ? ኧረ ተው! አያዛልቅም::
            እስቲ ተፍ ተፍ በል! እሳቱን ቆስቁሰው: እጣኑም ይጫጫስ : ፈንዲሻው ይበተን … እኛም ደስ ይበለን …

            አቦል ጀባ በረካ ጀባ …

          • Brhan

            Abi,
            Just a correction : it is ኣል ጀባ//በረካ ጀባእ.

          • Abi

            Brhan
            Thanks for the correction. You deserve a nice song by the legendary ሙሉቀን መለሰ

            ማለዳ ማለዳ ማለዳ መጥተሽ
            አቦሉን ጠጥተሽ ትመለሻለሽ
            ወለላ በረካ ጠጭም አልልሽ
            አሜን አትይም ወይ ሰው ሲመርቅሽ

            ተቋጥሬ ልግባ እመቀነትሽ
            ምንድን ነው ቢሉሽ : እጣን ነው ብለሽ
            አጭሽን ቢሉሽ :ገል የለም ብለሽ
            ፍቅር እንዲህ ያልቃል አንቺ ካልጨከንሽ

            ሸጋ ልጅ ማለዳ አካል ልጅ ማለዳ

            እንዲህ እያለ ይቀጥላል ሙሉቀን ነፍሴ
            የድሮ ዘፈን ነው:: 1973 በኛ አቆጣጠር:: በእናንተ ስንት መሆኑ ነው? ለነገሩ ምኑን ታቀዋለህ! እንደ ዝንጀሮ በየገደሉ ስትንጠላጠል እድሜህን ጨርሰኸው…
            ኤድያ!!

          • Brhan

            Thanks Abi,
            I love languages. So Awel is an Arabic word meaning the first, Baraka is also an Arabic word meaning blessing….jebaa…do you have an idea of what it means?

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Berhan,

            Awel is Arabic and Baraka is also Arabic. This goes really well with Saleh latest negative. He said, the new generation use words like “Habibtew” and “MiHabay” to refer women they love and in 100 years if someone uses different words, they are going to say “you are wrong, this is how our Abow use to say”.

            I know my my mother say “Awel and Baraka” and I don’t know if there is another words for them. Do you think that is what happened?

            And how do they say in Amharic when they drink coffee, abdeNa, huleteNa, SosteNa? I am asking I don’t know. And how do they say it in Tigray?

            Saleh zeyemSo neger yelen.

            BTW, Saleh it was great episode, you really doing great job for teaching a lot of us.

            Berhe

          • Brhan

            Hello Berhe,
            The words are Arabic. Used in Eritrea and Ethiopia. And this could be due to the Yemeni traders who introduced coffee as a brew to the world. It is true it was discovered in Ethiopia by a shepherd who saw his goats go high eating the grain. It must be part of thier rituals and the coffee brew was brought to us by them with its rituals.
            By the way my coffee is double double? Yours?

          • Berhe Y

            Selam Brhan,

            Your theory make sense. I wonder if they use those Arabic words in Ethiopia? How about in Tigrayit?

            Double double was long time, now more strong coffee with cream only (no sugar).

            Long, long time ago when I saw my boss drinking coffee black, I couldn’t understand how he would drink it. And he told me, when you get old you will understand, now I know:).

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            If you add a drop of milk in your coffee, then it is not coffee. Give it another name.
            ወተት ለድመት ነው:)

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            Habesha coffee is still with sugar no milk or cream. But American coffee can’t drink that much without cream.

            May be in another 10 years.

            Abi,

            How do you number coffee ceremony in Amharic?
            Berhe

          • Brhan

            Hi Berhe,
            This is to inform that I am the class teacher of student Abi. Please kindly report to me about his performance.

          • Brhan

            Merhaba Berhe,
            Yes, those who drink coffee with its rituals or what we call coffee ceremoney. Tigrayit፡ I am aware the Massawaians say Awel, then it Kalaay ካልኣይ….Salsay ሳልሳይ., as you know Tigrayit , a semitic language close to Geez. For Keren and beyond our bro Saleh can tell us.
            Berhino….ኣሪገ ኣይትበል ከይተእርገኒ

          • Abi

            Brhan
            አቦል ማለት የመጀመርያ
            አወል ለሰው ሲሆን አቦል ለቡና ነው::
            Jebaa ማለት “ቅድመ ወንበዴ” ማለት ሳይሆን አይቀርም::
            ተሳሳትኩ እንዴ?

          • Brhan

            Abi , how come , i thought you language grades were A+? This is -D.

          • Abi

            Brhan
            I got a joke for you if you let me retake the test.
            ትራንፕ ሆስፒታል በነበረበት ወቅት ከተከታዮቹ ይጎርፍለት የነበረው መልዕክት “stay positive “ ነበር::

          • Brhan

            Abi,
            I will tell you an original one if you say a title of one Eritrean songs
            A priest when he asked to pray, for the man you are talking about, said ” God be with the virus?”

          • Abi

            Brhan
            ተሳስቼ የዝነኛውን ተክሌ ተስፋእዝጊ ዘፈን “ፍቅሬ ተለመኒ” ልል ነበር ::
            How about “ ሎሚ ፅባህ”?

          • Brhan

            Abi,
            For this I will give you half mark. But you are improving. So I will consider that you can continue in the same class.

          • Abi

            Brhan
            Why only half?

          • Brhan

            Abi,
            The first song is by an Eritrean singer. The second is not. Ok to give you a full mark…tell me the name of 3 Eritrean singers and the titles of their love songs ( since you love , love songs). You asked for full mark, get it.

          • Abi

            Brhan
            Wait a minute!!!
            1- Tekle was a proud Ethiopian.
            2- I never knew there are Eritrean love songs. It is just impossible!
            Ok let me try
            የማነ ባርያ
            ፀሓይቱ
            አብረሃም አፈወርቂ
            I don’t know any titles.
            Bonus
            ኢሳያስ አፈወርቂ ( አይከሰርናን)

          • Brhan

            Abi,
            B. You are in the class. But next time, you have to score more than B.

          • Hashela

            Abi

            To list “አይከሰርናን” (ኢሳያስ አፍወርቂ) as a (sad) song title is simply genial.

            Not a song, but a seismic shock wave that keeps jolting the soul of grieving Eritrean families.

          • Sultan

            Abi:
            Suk tuUm!
            Min aynet sew neh and what kind of a brain do you have?
            Ready-made words flowing out from a Programmed Robot?

          • Semere Tesfai

            Selam ወንድም ኣማች

            I love Muluqen songs. I use to listen to them in the 80s in Sudan. I think he should’ve kept sinning and singing for the sake of his lovers and admirers.

            ናኑ ናኑ ነዪ፡ ናኑ ናኑ ነዪ
            ካ’ንቺ ኣለኝ ጊዳዪ

            ተርከዟ ሎሚ፡ ቀብተት ያለ ባት
            ኮራ ያለ ዳሌ፡ ሙትት ያለ ኣንጅጀት
            ከሷ ጋር ኣድሬ፡ ሲነጋ ሊሙት

            I don’t even know the meaning of all the Amharic words, but I still love it. Amharic language is made for love

            Semere Tesfai

          • Abi

            ወንድም አማች
            ሙሉቀን እኮ ነፍስ ነው!
            በተለይ ” ምነው ከረፈደ”, ” ባይንሽ ልለፍበት” ዘፈኖች ተወዳዳሪ የላቸውም::
            I’m very old school when it comes to songs. I don’t listen to የዘመኑን ወጭባሮች::
            የዘንድሮ እስክስታማ መጋኛ የለከፋቸው ነው የሚመስሉት::
            እዋይ

          • Aron

            Hi Abi,
            I thought Wubshet Fisseha sang this particular maleda with those lyrics.Aron

          • Abi

            Hello Aron
            You are absolutely right.
            ምነው በማለዳ ድባቅ መታኸኝ?

          • Aron

            Hi Abi,
            I just did not want you to forget Wubshet. I love both Muluken and wubshet pretty much equally. Aron

          • Abi

            Aron
            I still have the old cassette tape by Wubshet and Aster.
            I will never never never forget Wubshet and ዋልያስ ባንድ. I listen only to old music.
            ዘፈን ድሮ ቀረ!

            ማጭድ ልዋስ ብለህ እቤታችንን ናና
            አባቴን ስለርሻው አወያየውና
            ስትመለስ ውጪ እጠብቅሃለሁ
            ትንሽ እንዳዋይህ አይንህን እያየሁ
            ውብሸት/ ሂሩት

            በቃ ተዛምደናል!
            ኳስና ዘፈን የሚወድ ሁሉ ዘመዴ ነው::
            ( ኤርትራዊም ቢሆን:))

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            In the 80s my cousin who use to live with us ended up in Saudi Arabia. And she sent us, 4 speaker Sanyo tape player. We were so exited but we had no tape to play with.

            So we asked my dad to go and buy us tapes. My mom asked him to buy “Osman Abderihim” cassette. He want to a music shop and asked but they didn’t have it or I don’t know he cone home with two Amharic tapes. They told him, that’s old these are they new hit release.

            One was Kuku Sebsebe and the second I forgot his name but a guy I think he lived in the US.

            We listened and listened all day and all through the evening “ Fikreh Beretabegne”.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            Nice story. I remember those tape players. Ours was a four speaker, two cassette holder Panasonic. But most of the time we listened to music in the car while going to school or coming back home.
            (Elementary and middle school)
            I miss those days. All I had to worry was how to squeeze another ስሙኒ from my parents.

            ፍቅርህ በረታብኝ ተጨነቀ ሆዴ
            በልክ አይሆንም ወይ እኔ አንተን መውደዴ
            ያልታሰበ እንግዳ ይመጣል ወይ ደርሶ
            እንቅልፌ ካይኔ ላይ ሄዷል ተመልሶ
            እከሳለሁ እንጂ እመነምናለሁ
            ፍቅር ማንን ገድሎ እሞትለታለሁ
            ፍቅር ሰው ገደለ ሲሉም አልሰማሁ
            ያከሳል ያጠቁራል እኔም አውቃለሁ
            ፍቅርህ በረታብኝ….

            ኩኩ ነፍሴ

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            You really are good with music. I like music but I never had any collection, I never bothered to have. I love listening radio and the music what ever it plays on the radio.

            May be over 10 years ago I knew of the Éthiopiques collection but I didn’t really listened or owned one CD. A worker of mine cone to me, he was probably in his 60 at the time, quite senior guy, very professional, asked me if I from Eritrea. I was a bit surprised, he knew and how he had guessed. I told yes, how did he knew. He said, he knows someone of sane name but he is Ethiopian. So he tells me he runs a website of African music and he is involved with Afro fest festival.

            He asked me if I have the latest release “The very best of Éthiopiques” and how much he likes it. I said no owns he brought it for me the next day. He told me about the movie “Broken flowers” where they have most music from the series in the sound track. I watched the movie and I liked it.

            I fell in love with the CD and I listened it almost everyday. They other day you commenting on Mukuqen Melles and his sing in that collection was my one of my favourite “Bene Mot” along with Hiwete by Tesfamariam Kidane and Tilahun “Kukun Mankoleshi”.

            I gave him Abraham Afeworki song (I think it was new then) I think he liked it.

            Few months later, I went to a live show with to see Mulatu Astatiqe where he was touring with a band from Boston based on his music. He told me about it before I knew.

            I told few friends of mine to come to the show and some did. There was this Ethiopian guy who come for a wedding who lives in Addis. We told him to come and said “zim blo tin tin bicha new yemichawetew” referring to the xylophone :). and he didn’t come.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            የሙዚቃ አምላክ ይቅር አይልህም:: እኔማ ምን አቅም አለኝ!

          • Brhan

            Hello Berhe,
            I think the “No anger” Negarit episode has domino effect. Abi started to sing and you are sharing your experience with music. Let me ride the train then…music is in deed universal language. My taste includes all Eritrean songs, songs from Ethiopia, Sudan , Egypt and it reaches as far to Senegal and Mali. (SAAY shared once that one of his favourites, is Habib Koite of Mali). Sometimes you do not understand the language but the voice of the singer, the rhythm, lyrics and the instruments make you part of singer’s folks!
            እንታይ እሞ ኮሮና
            ጓይላ እንዶ ከሊኣትና!

          • Aron

            Hi Abi,
            I had to go back and listen to it. You are turning me into a romantic. I was beginning to forget my wife. I hate you. With love. Aron

          • Abi

            Hello Aron
            I love you too my Agazi brother. Never expected to meet a cool Agazian. How many people listen and admire the Legendary Wubshet? It takes a higher level of sophistication to admire a romantic song.
            አፍቃሪዎች ተስፋ አይቆርጡም!

          • Aron

            hi Abi,
            I am off work from work for couple days. I been listening to bezawork netsanet kuku and of course my all time favorite astu. something is definitly wrong with me. Love you too brother. Aron

          • Abi

            Aron
            There is nothing wrong listening to music anytime. I was listening ዋሆዬ by Wubshet. Probably my favorite of all his songs.

            እህህ ጧት ማታ ዋሆዬ እህህ ሌሊት
            ትዝታ ብቻ ነው ዋሆዬ ካንቺ ያተረፍኩት

          • Aron

            Hi Abi,
            I really love that song. It was one his best work. Aron

          • Abi

            Aron
            When I listen Wubshet this morning my son saw his picture and asked “ when did Shaggy start singing Amharic “?
            Shaggy from Scooby Doo .

          • Aron

            Selam Abi,
            Real funny. I can’t imagine shaggy of scooby singing Amharic. May be the other shaggy. Aron

          • Haile S.

            ጀታው እና ኣሮን፡

            ይሄው የመረጡኩላችሁ የጎጃም ማለዳ
            https://youtu.be/JVenh8uMP1U

          • Aron

            Hi Haile,
            i listened to this song few times before and am fascinated by his voice kind of koltafa in good way, Thanks Aron

          • Abi

            መምህር + Aron
            My favorite.
            Guess the original singer

            https://youtu.be/hQ9-AnIau0I

          • Haile S.

            ጀታው፡

            የዘንባባው ማር ዘፋኝ

          • Abi

            መምህር
            እንዴታ
            ልጅቷ የአንጋፋውን ይልማ ገብረአብን ጉልበት ስትስም አስተዋልክ?
            ይልማ ገብረአብ የሙዚቃ አባት!

          • Lebam

            Hello Abi,

            I need to intervene with new Eritrean music for us who don’t understand Amharic :). These two are my current favorite songs.

            Eden Teklit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwfLCCsE1kA
            Beraki Gebremedhin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ga5hQMLCUJw

          • Abi

            Hello Lebam
            Thanks for the songs. The Tegadaly singer is still angry. Any idea? What is he saying?
            I like Eden already.
            Wish them both the best.
            Thanks again.

          • Lebam

            Hey Abi,

            Both are love songs. Eden is singing about how she regret treating her man. She is basically saying, “I will be like you want me to be and will alleviate your heartfelt sorrows” in the best part 2:55 minutes into the song.

            Beraki wants to take his girl to the sea like his friend Romodan. 3:25 minutes into the song is the best part.

          • Aron

            Hello Lebam,
            I love Beraki’s song and it is one of those songs that pops up when i hit youtube because I listen to it many times. I hear him saying sini jibabo. Is that to mean ajibo. Aron

          • Lebam

            Hey Aron,

            I have never heard “jibabo” before. I hear him saying sini ajibo, which is a term used for complimenting white teeth. Glad you enjoy Beraki too. Gual bahri is also a new popular song by him.

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Saleh
            The new coffee bean picker ate most of the coffee he managed to pick.By lunch time he was so hyper he gave a lengthy lectures on how to run a university and build dams, power grids, and artificial lakes.
            I wonder if he has seen the power grid going towards Kenya?

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            SaleH,
            I don’t have clearance for that. I don’t even pay the illegal 2% tax.
            Sorry to disappoint you 🙂

  • Abi

    Hello Residents and visitors of Awatenation
    ወዲ አፎም ለሶስት ቀን ጉብኝት ኢትዮጵያ መጥቷል:: በዚህ ሰዓት ከአቢቹ ጋር ጅማን እየጎበኘ ይገኛል::
    I just wanted to bring the discussion back to the article, “Made in Ethiopia”.

    • Consolation

      Ato Abi,

      “What is going to be cooked in Ethiopia” in the three days is a question that must be uppermost in the minds of diverse quarters.

      Take, for example, the TPLF thugs. They are reeling from a number of hard hits that they have received recently: the change of currency; the coming and passing of significant dates 25 M and 30 M without the hoped for outcomes; the announcement that the Feds will not deal with the TPLF, effectively delegitimizing the thugs; and now the TPLF’s astoundingly incompetent response to a massive locust invasion that has revealed to everyone, but significantly to the people of Tigray, that the Emperor has no clothes. So one can imagine the trepidation of the Weyane leader’s at this unannounced meeting between Abiy and Esu. The TPLF thugs can have no illusions that the foremost topic on the agenda must be how to finish them off.

      • Kokhob Selam

        Dear Cons,

        Why so ?

        “….among them Mesfin Hagos and his cohort” wasn’t he was with you fighting? He should go back to the criminal group of yours…don’t you think gentleman? You must be kidding to site to make yourself the best among your collection of confused men and women…

        KS,,

        • Consolation

          Kokob Selam,

          Are you feeling neglected because I put Mesfin and his cohorts at the top? Your lot has been knocked out when the TPLF were kicked out of Addis and don’t register in my radar!

          • Kokhob Selam

            Cons,

            Not at all..why i have feel so? You may feel so..He was not my leader and will not happen..In the future too,,we are in different line of politics..I don’t have to put my self in trouble with..I am more than before rooted by my own group…I will leave such criminal men to you and your likes…You will soon see when truth got won over your dictators..

            KS,,

      • Brhan

        Hello Consolation,
        Try to argue with responsibility and honesty: Abiy’s seceret visit to Asmara on Monaday, October 05, 2020 was reported by Adoulis.com and not Meskerem.com which has the news available till the writing of this comment to you.

        • Consolation

          Brhan,

          You are confused and have missed the meaning of what I wrote. You are probably concussed. Too many punches landing on your head, eh!

          • Brhan

            Consolation.
            The punches because they lacked evidences, dropped as feathers over my head. Advice the punchers to practice ( come with evidences) before they try it again.
            Also, an adivise for you when you visit other website look carefully. Websites refer to their sources, too. Meskerem.com is not the source of the sceret visit. Do not put wordes on Meskerem.com. Meskerem, was honest to say it got the news from Adoulis.com.

    • Kokhob Selam

      Dear Abi,

      So who cares? we all know that… to see this two dictators meet for the last three years secretly and officially.. Both are illegal and for sure the end will be soon..That is to prolong the edge of the rule and yes both are on fire.. We shall see them crying as usual we are certain..

      All Ethiopians and Eritreans are witnessing the movement and yes this is not new and you can make sure by calling the your friends..

      KS,,

      • Abi

        Kokobe ጀግናው
        እስቲ ጭቅጭቁን ለጊዜው እናቆየውና ዛሬ ኢሱ ከለቀመው ቡና አፍላልን::
        ምነው አንተዬ ጀበናውን አቀዘቀዝቀው? ኧረ እንዲህ መስነፍ ደግም አይደል!

    • Selam Abi,

      What could be the message the two leaders want to send, especially to tplf? Why Jima and not Addis? What is the meaning of picking coffee beans?

      One thing is for sure. When tplf is quarantined in mekele, IA is freely roaming all over ethiopia, and as tplf is drowning itself with vodka and black label whisky out of frustration and hopelessness, IA is testing first quality coffee in the land of its origin.

      Whatever others may say, the two leaders are trying to show that they are still together. In addition, it seems that IA continues to entertain this weird idea that without him Ethiopia could collapse and he is the mover and shaker of the horn of africa. It seems that he enjoys it. Both ways, tplf is sandwiched.

      Of course, such politics may have ephemeral advantages. But, but, but, its long term effect is better taken into consideration and avoided as well as much as possible. The people of tigray, should not be made to feel that they are alienated. Let’s hope that it will not end up becoming “ይህች ባቄላ ካደረች አትቆረጠምም” sort of thing, for politics, whether we like it or not, is a dirty game.

      • Consolation

        Selam Horizon,

        In addition, it seems that IA continues to entertain this weird idea that without him Ethiopia could collapse and he is the mover and shaker
        of the horn of africa.

        I am puzzled as to how you have managed to discern this. Did Isu make any statements that imply this? A visit like this is arranged between the two leaders. His itinerary is decided by the host. We may speculate as to the message of what the two leaders intend to send and what its effect is but your claim about Isu’s motives is very weird.

        • Selam Consolation,
          It is not a new concept. It has always been there, acknowledged by local and foreign journalists and others. It is concluded from what he said on different occasions. Listen to what the journalist Martin Plaut said on crisis group last time.

          • Consolation

            Hi Horizon,

            Martin Plaut or any other foreign journalist cannot know more about our own affairs than we do. So I don’t put much weight to what they say. My question is: since you claimed that “IA continues to entertain this weird idea that without him Ethiopia could collapse” what aspect of the current visit has led you to this conclusion. As far as we know, Esu did not crash into Ethiopia. He is the guest of Abiy, who as far as I know, is still the legitimate leader of Ethiopia.

            There may be a perception that Ethiopia would collapse without the help of Eritrea but this is due to the fact that Eritrea has adamantly opposed the agenda of the TPLF to disintegrate Ethiopia. The TPLF cannot have a free hand as long as it has to worry about its belly which borders Eritrea. I don’t have to remind you that President Isaias has consistently stood against the TPLF on this point even during the 1980s. In fact, the main reason for the friction between the EPLF and TPLF in the 1980s is because the former refused to support the TPLF’s agenda to form an independent republic of Tigray. As you well know, IA has been accused by the Weyane stooges that as harbouring pro-Ethiopia sentiments.

            For me the situation is like this: Ethiopia is in a very fragile situation because of the poison of ethnic fragmentation that the TPLF has deliberately infused in its 27 years of misrule. Due to the laissez-faire approach that Abiy has handled the TPLF and Oromo extremists over the past 30 months, the TPLF gang have acted with impunity. PIA has acted with uncommon patience giving more than enough time for Abiy to implement the main point of the peace-accord, the demarcation of the border. It is only after they came after his back-side that Abiy started to act. So I think PIA will be pressing Abiy not to let-up now and finish the thugs once and for all.

          • Selam Consolation,

            The final move to push tplf over the cliff, in my opinion, should be left to the people of tigray. That, I think, is what the Ethiopian pm is trying to do. First, he is incapacitating tplf politically, economically and he is undermining its support base. The job is already half done. Therefore, the last phase should be handled with caution so that the people will not come to tplf’s help as the result of the so-called herd mentality. That is the reason that no excuse should be given to tplf to hoodwink the people of tigray.

            Whether we believe it or not, IA has played an influential role in the whole region: Sudan, Somalia, Yemen, Djibouti and even in the Congo, as some people say, and we can’t see him just as one ordinary leader of the region. Therefore, we have to see politics as a continuous process and not as an individual happening.

            In my opinion, Abiy wants to show that he is not alone; IA is with him. IA wouldn’t hate to see himself as a person who plays a crucial role in the region. These are not said or declared in public, but it is possible to conclude that such things are happening.

            The fact that IA opposed tplf’s drive to independence was the right thing to do, because it will happen at the expense of Eritrea. It seems that he understood tplf’s plan right from the start. Tplf can’t survive alone by itself, and it will use Eritrea as its life support, on top of its desire to annex Eritrean lands, as it did with Amara region.

            Finally, Martin Plaut is one of the people who have been carrying out research studies on the politics of the horn of africa and the whole region over many decades, and we can’t say that he is irrelevant. Maybe we can say that foreigners could be biased towards one or the other as everybody else, although they deny it. Remember the guy who went to mekele during the las elections.

          • Consolation

            Hi Horizon,

            I agree with most of your points. But I am not impressed by people like Martin Plaut. There was a time when a Western journalist with a very shallow knowledge of a third world country was regarded as an expert, not just by the western media and governments, but also by the citizens of the third world countries themselves.Those days are gone for good. Martin Plaut may have dabbled in the politics of the Horn for a long time but he is just a hack with a shallow understanding of the region. Worse, he is a paid agent of the TPLF just as Kjetil Tronvoll, the Mekele University adjunct professor, who observed the sham TPLF election but has no integrity to report on what he observed. Tronvoll’s object in coming to Tigray was not to observe the election but to give publicity and moral support to the TPLF. They are a contemptible breed who make careers out of their groupie status; they write books and publish papers which are forgotten before the ink is dry.

  • Selam All,

    There is a very interesting podcast discussion by Martin Plaut at the Crisis Group, with the topic “The Horn: Eritrea’s One-man Rule”.
    It is worth listening to.

    • Sultan

      Horizon:
      Link please!’
      Martin Plaut, Who!

      • Sultan,
        If you go to crisisgroup.org website and scroll down, you will come to “regional updates, Africa”. You will find the topic with a small map of the horn of africa. I don’t think that it has a link as such.

  • Brhan

    Hello all
    Adoulis.com, an Eritrean Arabic website says that Last Monday, September 05, 2020 Ethiopian PM A. Ahmed Ali paid a seceret visit to Eritrea.
    Adoulis.com which indicates that its sources provided the info, says that the Ethiopian PM spend 6 hours with IA and their subject of discussion was the developments between the Ethiopian federal government and Tigray regional government.
    http://www.adoulis.net/entry.php?id=6135

    • Nitricc

      Hi Brhan; the closet digital. i am wont be surprised if the news is true, PIA is the true expert of the horn Africa and the god father of the weyane thugs. He created them and he has the capability to destroy them. Indeed PMAA is smart to seek advice from PIA. Although PMAA could have picked up the phone and discussed the matter, i don’t see the need for secret visit. Since Eritrean Muslims are with weyane thugs, all BS are expected. While we are on the subject, can you tell me why Eritrean Muslims are supporting the weyane? i just wanted to know. please help.

      • Consolation

        Nitricc,

        You are assuming that he is and Eritrean and a Muslim. What proof do you have for that? There was a member of this forum by the name of Hayat who pretended to be a woman, Eritrean and a Muslim. I thought that all three were false. Where is Mr. Hayat now. Probably in one of the quarantine hotels in Mekele taking notes of their meetings.

        • Nitricc

          Hi Conso: why do you think the majority Eritrean Muslims support the thugs. Even my hero the great Mahmuday fall to the weynes. what is it? The only one stand with his people and country is SAAY, the truth.

          • Consolation

            Hello Nitricc,

            I don’t think it is correct to say that a majority of Mulsims support the thugs. There are Muslims who do so and Muslims who don’t. For every Mahmouday, there are probably 5 Pauloses. You may be trying to make the point that no Eritrean Muslim should support the TPLF because Tigrayans detest Islam and Muslims. And I think that most Eritrean Muslims do not support the TPLF. Don’t forget that there are millions of them and that the few you have encountered don’t represent them.

            Having said that, the openly anti-Muslim stance of the Agazians should have made any Eritrean Muslim, leave alone smart people like Mahmouday, wary of the Tigrayans. But human behaviour is very complex and what drives people is, in many cases, difficult to comprehend. You may have seen how meskerem.net had degenerated in the last few months to the extent that it was openly calling on Eritreans to side with the TPLF. Why should that not be as shocking as Mahmoud or Mesfin Hagos, for cynical political purposes, supporting the TPLF. They are most likely on the same band-wagon.

          • Abi

            Consolation + General
            I am having difficulty comprehending the Teg Vet Mahmud position supporting the Tplf thugs. I heard he wrote something in Tigrinya on Meskerem.
            I need to hear from him.
            How is it possible to put Teg Vet Mahmud and gual Adem in the same losing team?

            Fun fact
            Hayat Adem, my former Queen, is the only Muslim at Awatenation who never wrote in Arabic.

          • abdu

            Salam Nitricc

            why do you think the majority Eritrean Muslims support the thugs.
            to borrow your words Are you taking something?
            I will try to reply your accusation but in the mean time it is good to know who you are thank you.
            thanks

          • Nitricc

            why do you think the majority Eritrean Muslims support the thugs.

            Hi All I failed to add “ON THIS FORUM” And apologized for my short coming and confusion. I still stand in why Eritrean Muslims on this web-site failed to stand up to the weyane thugs. Why are they scared?

          • Brhan

            Hello Nitriic,
            It is simple:
            Don’t make your stand aganist th TPLF at the expense of Eritrean internal issues.
            To remind you , you support the rule of law to prevail in Eritrea. Increase that voice while you stand up against TPLF.
            TPLF had its ups and downs with Eritrea. The ups are done. The downs still unsolved:occupying Eritrean lands, inhuman deportation and agression during the Badme war where its troops reached as far as Teseney. I and you can kill with one stone two thugs : The thugs of our country and TPLF thugs? Is it clear? If not do not hesitate lo ask.

          • Sultan

            Berhan:
            Same Berhan or another one?
            Accidentally,you just CC King Sultan’s Manifesto!

          • Saleh Johar

            Nitricc,
            The Eritrea you have in mind must be a tiny one. How many Muslim Eritreans do you know?

          • Nitricc

            The Eritrea you have in mind must be a tiny one. How many Muslim Eritreans do you know?

            Hi SG; First of all when I said majority Eritrean Muslims, that was by bad, I should have clarified by adding “ the Eritrean Muslims on this forum” otherwise it will be stupid of me to talk about the entire Eritrean Muslims. I have no knowledge to declare that. However when it comes to this forum; I know you, I know Mahmuday, I know Ismail, I know Brhan, I know Beyan and many other Muslims ON THIS FORUM and with the exception of SAAY, all the Eritrean Muslims I know to come, never uttered or written a single thing to criticize or anything negative about the TPLF thugs. That including Sir. The question is why?

          • Yp

            Selam

            Sorry, but most Muslims don’t give a crap about Weyane or Ethiopia. Especially those of us who are from Anseba or Karura. They are irrelevant. We care about our country, Eritrea. And if there is any foreign country we follow events from it’s Sudan.

            Only you weirdo HGDEF supporters care about them and think about them 24/7 over your own country.

            We want to build our country together with our Christian brothers.

          • Sultan

            Yp:
            The Gen apologetically and admittedly corrected his mistake!
            Your point?
            FYI, he is an astute and excellent OBSERVER!
            To the point, in fact ;and he is mostly RIGHT/correct minus his nonessential tone and rhetoric,at times a bit hyperbolic!

          • sara

            selam Amna saleh,
            you reminded me long time ago, when you asked forumers to check their phone contacts and report. i wonder how many of them have checked and found the truth.

          • Saleh Johar

            Sara,
            I am not sure if that was helpful. But I can tell you I am amazed by how many people mention that speech to me. I think that line is one of the most remembered parts of all my speeches. Honestly, I have a few people who were so embarrassed they hate me with passion–just for saying that and they twist what I said to justify their hate. Thank you for remembering

          • Hashela

            Selam Saleh

            Now, let’s dig further. How many “Habesh” friends (Tigrina speaking Eritrean highlander) do your meanwhile grown up children have?

          • Saleh Johar

            Hashela,
            So many. In fact you cannot help that if you grow up in Keren, particularly close to the center. I was a member of the Boy Scout in my early teens and it was almost fifty-fifty. I used to travel to Asmara frequently where I developed many friends, some of them close friends to this day.

            Now my dear, digging deep means investigate. If you believe a statement I made you do not need to did deep or shallow. Why do you doubt it? But please did as deep as you can and I can help you in the process if you want. Any other question, Hashela?

          • Consolation

            Saleh,

            The question, which I think is a bit unfair, is about your grown-up children. These children were born and grew up in the diaspora. Thus, their social connections must in most cases depend on that of their parents. So the question is basically not what happened when you were growing up but has happened since.

          • Lebam

            Selam Consolation,

            I am born and raised in Europe and have grown up with mostly Tigringa speaking Eritrean highlanders.

            The ones that came in the 80’s helped each other get accustomed to the new culture and language. Tolerance for others is something you learn in the western countries, which Africans really need to learn if they can’t accept one anothers differences. In general people normally stick with their own, or people who accept them for who they are.

            Now, I believe that the religious extremists are dangerous and that they should be exposed. However, I would like to know more about the Muslim agenda people like Sultan keep mentioning. I have honestly mostly, if not only, seen Christian extremists on social media. Can you refer me to the Muslim Agazian counterpart, so I can investigate their agenda?

            Also, Nitricc and I have argued plenty of times about TPLF. If I don’t curse Tigray and wish them misfortune, he will not be content and assume I support TPLF, which is far from the truth.

            I will go back to reading mode 🙂

          • Consolation

            Hello Lebam,

            The “Muslim agenda” throughout the region is waning and shouldn’t be considered a major factor. The rapid progress in communications technology is homogenizing the world.

            If by Muslim Agazian counterpart you mean a movement to make Eritrea part of the Islamic world, then I haven’t heard of any other than the old Islamic Jihad factions who are not a factor now. The Christian Agazian phenomenon will soon be forgotten just as the Tigray-Tigrigne movement of the 1940s has become a foot-note. The defeat of the TPLF has silenced many egregious voices such as those who were denigrating our armed struggle. Where are the Yosief Gebrehiwets these days?

            No one should ask you to curse the TPLF. But you will be cursed if you support them because they are the deadliest and dirtiest enemies that we ever faced.

          • Saleh Johar

            Consolation,
            My children? I don’t even know if they understand the difference–but I know they know different people–our children are so much involved in the race issues of America–they live it and they identify with others as African Americans, regardless.Sometimes some crazy guys and tell them something they are not familiar with. They come and ask me and I explain it to the n]best of my knowledge. In fact they do not ask because they do not understand ethnic, racial and other divides–probably they know it more than I do–my son is well aware about that . They usually ask me about the context because most of the time that is the only thing they need to know

          • Hashela

            Selam Saleh

            While you and I may have an ethnically and religiously well balanced number of Eritrean friends, the separation along a religion and ethnic/ኣውራጃ line is stronger in the Eritrean diaspora youth.

            So a good measure of your openness is not how many (old) friends from a different religion and province (ኣውራጃ) you have, but how successful you are in fostering that open mindset in your off-springs.

          • Saleh Johar

            Hashela,
            It’s your perspective, not mine. Not all bigots were not made so by the way their parents raised them, neither were clean patriots. Many factors go into that. I thought we were (at least I was) talking in the Eritrean context, and my audience, in case you missed, were not diaspora youngsters but people like “you and I”. The problem we are facing is the making of people like “you and I”.

            Please note: the topic was not about me, but about our lack of familiarity with each other that is causing the disunity we complain about repeatedly. However, if you think that is not important, I don’t know what to tell you.

        • Sultan

          Conso and Nitric:
          Here is the Sad Fact without going into details!
          First , correction to Gen Nittric’s Generalization and Blanket accusation of the Eri Muslims:
          As you,Gen, openly declared it , the Low Land Eri Muslims have taken over defending the Sovereign and Sacred Eri borders !
          Second, those Muslims you are accusing are very few Muslim elite , who belong to a certain Self-declared Tribe , which was created officially by a certain Dr Tosif or so and sponsored by Derghi and some Middle East rogue allegedly Terrorist States including Turkey( related and affiliated to do called Muslim Brotherhood ( thru Turkey and Quatar)and Wihabism thru Saudi Arabia)since the Derghi Era and taken advantage fully by the TPLF , which fully abused that group to create havoc and religious division among Eritreans.
          You guys know exactly what and about who am talking about.
          I think a high figure Muslim Awatista(???Prof SAAY) accidentally exposed the truth blaming this group sponsored by the TPLF by saying “ Rather than appreciating Eritrea, which welcome(d) them as victims of Religious Prosecution by Tigray and its leaders and let them to enjoy the Religious Freedom, they are complaining about discrimination in Eritrea ; and worse, being used as mercenaries by the their very enemy, the TPLF, which does not even allow them to build a Prayer Site in Adigrat or Axum.
          The alleged support by this Group of /to the TPLF emanates from the temporary support they are getting from for their alleged and futile Religious Movement they are dreaming to achieve in Eritrea.
          Make no mistake that am not generalizing or making a blanket accusation against my own Muslim family members but clarifying to you that it is only a certain elite Eri Muslim group , which is trying to achieve a foreign sponsored certain Religious political agenda .

          And this is a FACT, which has been going covertly and overtly in side and outside Eritrea, based on factual Intelligence Reports by the GoE, which is shared by Intl Intelligence Services( Every body knows about the agenda of Wuhabism and Muslim Brotherhood, which have been active but has failed in the very Muslin Countries but still doing its best to revive itself!

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Sultan,
            Please help me with the following two question:
            1- can you tell me which is the Muslim group supported by TPLF? Do they have a name? If they do, why can’t you identify them specifically instead of using the blanket “Muslim” identification?
            2- are there equivalent “Christian groups” supported by the TPLF? If so why don’t you use the blanket “Christian” identification to describe them. Or at least use a common identification so that readers of you comment would understand?

            I have to add a third:
            3- you say Turkey supports Muslim brotherhood, can you tell us which group? Can you say, for instance, Norway supports evangelical Christians, or Italy supports catholic Christians? Why is it that only Muslim Eritreans are identified but their faith?

            Please stay on the topic without branching out. It’s an honest question because I want to learn from you and maybe it helps in an exercise of self reflection. Thank you

          • Sultan

            Selam SGJ:
            Let alone the forumers here,every naive Eritrean all over the world knows about these few Religious Extremist Groups!
            Consult the CIA or the US State Department or Cairo about the Muslim Brotherhood and their Sponsors.
            As far as the Christian Extremists is concerned, well, again consult the State Department as to how they destabilize Independent Nations using these fake Pentecostal Movements in the name of Democracy and Freedom of Religion .
            The classic example is that of Latin America( an open textbook)!

            There was a reason as to why Eritrea BANNED those new born extremist Christian and Muslim Fanatic Groups!

            Am an Eye Witness account to / about the role of those Jihadist/ Wuhabist Groups and few Pentecostal Movement in Eritrea and if u are going to tell me again that am a liar and this is just my opinion, not facts, well, who cares and I respect that as your opinion.

            I do not consider the AgAzian Movement as a Religious Movement but a Political tool of the TPLF
            You keep asking me questions for which you know the answers well!

          • Saleh Johar

            Sultan,
            Please respond to my question. If you are a spokesperson for the CIA or others, say so. Otherwise, you made the statement and I asked clarification from you. I don’t call you a liar or anything else, I just asked question based on your statement. Don’t bounce my questions elsewhere, you should stand by your comments and clarify them for me, please. I don’t know the answers and if you say I know, how do you know I know. You don’t. I am waiting for you to educate me, please

          • Sultan

            SGJ:
            Reread my response above and the one to Birhan.Yes u know the answer that Eritrea has been a victim of those destabilizing extremists.
            Unfortunately, I don’t have have further answers.

          • Saleh Johar

            Forget it Sultan,
            Don’t give me assignment to read or reread other stuff, answer my question on your comments if you can. Otherwise, I give up. Also, please don’t make statements you can’t defend or engage in directly without dancing around. I should have known.

          • Brhan

            Sultan,

            1. For the benefit of this forum visitors, like me, can’t you at least give one name, like you did with the Agazian for the other organizations or thier public figures.

            2. TPLF helping this groups that you mentioned: is it before the Badme war or after? Because the religiose movements were seen as early as 1994, 95, and 96. Do you mean TPLF was involved in the movement while its honeymoon with PF(DJ)

            3. In this forum I can tolerate name calling, but it is difficult to tolerate misinformation. The greatest enemy is misinformation. There is no excuse to that. I and you can have different opinions and we can argue, but it will never happen to me to give you a wrong information. And If I did , it could be unintentionally. I will seek to be corrected by you or another. I believe in one of Awate’s mottos : inform.

          • Sultan

            Berhan:
            Did I touch a nerve?
            I said since the Derghi era then the TPLF took full advantage of them..

          • Brhan

            Sultan,
            If you mean by “did I touch a nerve?” as part of name calling, then I told you, ሸለል ክብለካ እየ። But this is about information, and anyone who comes to this forum to be informed won’t tolerate it.
            And for you not to twist what I have said , I will repeat it again: I did not say Eritrea has been a victim of these foreing sponsored Bigots or Extermists is a misinforation. You are just putting words in to my mouth. I asked to to tell me who these bigots and extermists are? Do not they have a name? Do not they have their leaders? If you know tell but if you do not know, let us stop here.

          • Sultan

            Berhan:
            You accepted my argument about the existence of the Christian and the AgAzian version of the extremist agenda but you keep denying the well documented Extremist Muslim Agenda by few Extremist Jihadists and Islamists, albeit deliberately to cover up for the “Muslim” thing…
            Get it real.
            I could have gone nuclear on this sensitive issue /topic but is not constructive and is of no value.

          • Brhan

            Merhaba Sultan,
            It must be a coward excuse from you. The issue is not a monster, so do not be afraid to bring it to the table. In the meant time I advise you to listen to this from assena, com of October 12, 2020
            ATV:ተዘክሮ ኲናት ከባቢ ባድመ ብዓይኒ መንእሰያት: ስታፍ ምልክት ከ/ብረት ሙልጌታ ተ/መድህን (ወዲ ሊያ)፡ ጋዜጠኛ ኪዳነማርያም ደስበለ – 1ይ ክፋል October 12, 202 . It has to do a lot with the subject and it may put your thinking about the issue upside down!
            You see your problem with you and others like Semere Tesfay is you try to make argument without proof. At least persons like Dongolo eventhough they come with shortcomings , they try to support their argument by evidence.
            So listen to assena first, and to continue, the discussion with me on this topic, I put it as pre-condition.

          • Dongolo

            Selam Selah Johar. It has long been known that Eritrean Islamic Jihad has been directly and indirectly backed by the TPLF. Please refer to the below Wikileaks cable: https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/08ADDISABABA1564_a.html
            Moreover, it is also know that Eritrean Red Sea Afars are similarly linked with bad boy groups.

          • Berhe Y

            Selam Dongolo,

            Thank you for providing the link. Can you please point out in the link you provided where it says Eritrean Islamic Jihad is backed by TPLF.

            As far as I can read, they are part of EDA and what ever support EDA received from Ethiopia, they were included like all members of EDA.

            From the link here is what it says

            EDA leaders said that they would be pleased to hold the national conference inside Eritrea with the participation of Isaias' People's Front for Democracy and Justice (PFDJ), but readily admitted that PFDJ participation was highly unlikely. With or without the Eritrean government, the EDA intends to go forward with the national conference and one EDA leader said they hope to hold it by the end of 2008.

            From the same link here is what it says what support they got from Ethiopian government.

            The Ethiopian government provided the venue for the
            conference and Foreign Minister Seyoum Mesfin spoke at the
            opening and closing ceremonies, but no Ethiopian officials
            were permitted to attend the daily working sessions.
            EDA leaders, when queried, admitted that the perception of the
            EDA as an Ethiopian puppet was a problem for the diaspora
            because it undermined the EDA's credibility in their eyes.
            The leaders made it clear, however, that they held the
            conference in Ethiopia because they had no choice; they
            lacked the financial resources to hold the meeting in Europe
            or elsewhere. The leaders noted that they would be pleased to hold the next conference outside Ethiopia if the United States provided financial support. One civil society member said that the location was of only secondary importance to the fact that the conference heralded a new era of cooperation between the opposition groups.

            ኣየ እንዳ ህግደፍ፡ ጸላኢ ጸለሎ ቀባኢ ድዮም ዝብሉ ኣቦታትና።

            Berhe

          • Consolation

            Ato Haile,

            Why does commonsense abandon you when it comes to Shaebia? The EDA was formed and financed by the TPLF in 1999 when Eritrea was fighting the Tigrayan invasion. Each of its constituent member was granted a monthly hand-out by the TPLF thugs. The EIJM joined the EDA in 2007. Doesn’t it follow that the EIJM was financed by the TPLF?

            After Eritrean-Sudanese relations improved in 2006, EIJM opened an office in Addis Ababa in 2006, and in 2007, the organization joined the Eritrean Democratic Alliance (EDA), which is registered with the group under the name of its political wing, the Eritrean People’s Congress (EPC).

            EDA is an Ethiopian-created umbrella group consisting of Islamists and ethnic-centric political parties each seeking to turn Eritrea into mini Sharia-governed chiefdoms loyal to Addis Ababa and Riyadh.

            Unlike Sudan and Saudi Arabia, who seek the Islamization of Eritrea for geopolitical and ideological reasons, Ethiopia’s support for the Al-Qaeda-linked organization has to do with forming a rift between Eritrean Christians and Muslims, whom are evenly split 50/50. In doing so, it seeks to erode Eritrean nationalism by artificially creating the conditions for a Lebanon-style civil war, in which Ethiopia plays the part of Syria and micromanages Eritrea, with the end goal of annexation of the country.

            Unfortunately for Ethiopia and Saudi Arabia, the high degree of fragmentation of the EJIM coupled with the Eritrean army’s successful counter terrorism measures over the years, has severely crippled the terrorist organization’s capacity. The regional spoilers bet on Al-Qaeda-linked groups to destabilize Eritrea has been a costly and ineffective one.

            http://www.madote.com/2015/11/a-look-at-ethiopias-support-of-al-qaeda.html

            Thanks to the resolute leadership of President Isasias, today, the TPLF and its Eritrean minions have been defeated. It may give useless people who hankered for the defeat of Eritrea a great deal of pain, but the Eritrean people are now breathing a huge sigh of relief that all their enemies have been vanquished. Swallow it!

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Consolation,

            No body really gives a cr… p of your lies. You and others (Dongolo, Sultan) are collaborating to paint EIJ as if:

            – Terrorist Islamic Organization
            – it’s created by TPLF to fight against Eritrean people interests.

            Both lies and you can’t provide a real proof to substantiate. You can’t possibly expect anyone to believe the story of lies written by Yemene Ghebremeskel and PFDJ office and posted at PFDJ supported website.

            Can you post independent report like wiki leaks or other credible information.

            Funny the link Dongolo provided shows all the facts about the Eritrean opposition, which is:

            1) they want to hold peaceful conference in Eritrea including with the PFDJ
            2) they went to Ethiopia because, Ethiopia government provided the venue and they had no other choice. If they have the means, they prefer to hold it another place.
            3) Ethiopia government have no influence in their conference or meetings. The FM made a speech but it was closed door meeting.
            4) they have yes wish and desire to use violence to effect change.
            5) they see the Eritrean armed forces as part and parcel of the opposition and they will work with them to speed up regime change.

            These are the facts as clearly outlined by the US embassy in Ethiopia and communicated to the state department.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            It must be experiencing unusually slow season.
            SGJ said “ Ethiopia is a burial ground for Eritrean oppositions”.
            Don’t tell me it is the Awasa or Bahir Dar weather that kills them. It was Tplf, their handler, that was responsible for their death.
            If you believe that the Ethiopians didn’t interfere in the opposition activities and decisions, you are slowly becoming አንግሆል ድሆሮ.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            The argument Consolation, Dongolo and other are making, are the opposite of the facts that we know. They are saying they are created by Ethiopia / TPLF. If TPLF is their burial place then they should praise TPLF for killings Eritrean opposition on behalf of IA.

            Going to Ethiopia / TPLF for Eritrean opposition is the last choice as they had no other means. TPLF can’t kill any opposition to IA and horrendous abuse he has unleashed against the Eritrean people. It can be delayed but will not die.

            The lies they want to stick are:
            – they are against Eritrea, Eritrean people- false
            – they are created by TPLF and server TPLF interests – false
            – the opposition who have “Islam” are associated with “terrorism” – false
            – IA is Eritrea and opposing IA equals opposition Eritrea – false
            – Sing the song that IA has burried TPLF – good luck with that.

            LA / Miami game? Yes I did but there was no competition to King James team. It was quite boring.

            I watched Tennis yesterday and Cycling (Giro d’Italia) once in a while.

            The games without the noise of the fans (soccer, basketball etc) is really boring for me to watch.

            P.S. Enjoy the ride to a death spiral at the guidance of IA. Just so you know that one day we will say to you “we told you so”.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            I fall asleep 2nd quarter and woke up after the game. I like to see some competition for the finals. Boring is understatement . “ደባሪ” አይገልፀውም! 🙂
            Where is this “ride to death “ taking place. My knowledge of cycling is next to zero. Is it a yearly competition in Asmara?

            The rest of your comment is beyond my comprehension and pay grade.
            From what I read, most of the opposition are created and sponsored by Tplf including the ይአክል movement.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            Currently there is Giro D”Italia taking place. The three most popular cycling events are Tour de France in France, Giro d’Italia in Italy, followed by Vuelta de Espana in Spain.

            Eritrean opposition are not created by TPLF. Most of the Eritrean opposition are spin-off of ELF, where they were drivenout of Eritrea in 1981 by EPLF and TPLF alliance.

            They have been opposing IA and EPLF since then in different capacity.

            Some joined EPLF, some stayed in Sudan providing humanitarian support, most become political opposition groups, and most of them supported Eritrea independence and suspended their arms struggle after Eritrea independence.

            Some of the leaders of the opposition groups, like Weldeyesus Amar or Seyoum Harestay recruited Isayas Afeworki and they were his mentors.

            The only opposition groups that were created after 2001 were those former EPLF / GoE members in opposition of the arrest of the G-15 and the journalists.

            I know for sure yiAkle is not created by TPLF. I can’t say, TPLF recruits and sympathizers have not joined the movement but far cry from controlled by TPLF.

            Below is some background on the EDA members.

            Berhe
            ——-/——

            http://awate.com/eight-eda-member-organization-agree-to-unite-their-military-wings/

            After Eritrea’s independence on May 24, 1991, the Eritrean opposition groups had suspended their military operation anticipating the announcement of a mechanism for the exercise of peaceful political pluralism in Eritrea. Their hopes were dashed a month later when Eritrea’s strongman, Isaias Afwerki, announced that, henceforth, there wouldn’t be any political contest among political organizations (“nay wddebat hashewye”) in Eritrea. The political organizations re-activated their military wings shortly thereafter.

            In the 1990s, the base for Eritrea’s opposition organizations was Sudan. This is because Ethiopia had a mutual defense agreement with Eritrea, and Sudan was in a state of cold war with Eritrea. Until the late 1990s, most of the Ethiopia-based Eritrean organizations (RSADO, DMLEK, Sagem) were largely dormant and those based in Sudan (ELF and the Islamist organizations) were active in Western Eritrea.

            After the breakout of the Eritrea-Ethiopia war in 1998 and the Sudan-Eritrea reconciliation which followed the “peace agreement” between Sudan’s Eastern Front and Khartoum, the situation was reversed. The Sudan-based Eritrean opposition groups were denied political space by Sudanese security and the Ethiopia-based Eritrean opposition groups were granted the political space they needed to mobilize. This is why, of late, most of the military communiqués announced have been by Ethiopia-based organizations and their confederates. These operations are expected to be amplified with the recent Ethiopian reassessment of its strategy towards Eritrea: that it will no longer take a passive “host nation” role and that it will actually be more involved towards making the opposition more effective.

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            Thanks for the information on the cycling world. I knew a little bit of Tour de France. Last time I watched the competition the disgraced Armstrong was competing. After that I never follow cycling.
            Since you grew up in Asmara enjoying the weekly Asmara-Massawa ኩቺኔታ competition during the derg time, you are hooked on these kind of things.

            I think there are several “Made in Ethiopia “ opposition groups . You mentioned some. I have heard there are over 40 of them.

            I strongly believe ይአክል is made in mekele. Don’t tell me it is a mere coincidence that it was formed as a party just when Abiy came to power.
            It was a last ditch effort by Tplf to derail the peace process. It was another one of those noisy summer projects. It doesn’t make as much noise now. May be suffering from budget cuts?

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            Did you see Abiy riding his ኩቺኔታ in the new park I think?

            I would say, Cycling is the only thing that survived and thrived in Eritrea.

            IA and his group were and are always searching for enemies and someone to pick a fight with even at the expense of the country unity and wellbeing.

            To this day, thankfully, he is not able to find his match. Otherwise, the country would have been in flames.

            Early on from the 70s he was blaming, ELF and sectarian divisions. Unfortunately this has worked to his advantage and he was able to sway a lot of the highlanders.

            After independence he started his fight with Sudan and become American ally in his fight of “terrorism”. Any opposition group was labeled and attacked.

            Then he was fighting TPLF /Weyane since and it has not stopped. Now any opposition group is labelled “weyane” no matter what.

            The Eritrean opposition (40 numbers) is just a joke. In reality they all can be grouped into two or three groups. Some of them don’t even have 50 members. But it’s a process that we have to go through and it refine itself if a political culture and tolerance are allowed. For their own selfish existence they will alone and unite.

            YiAkle is not started by Weyane. I know this for sure, it was an idea copied from the Ice Bucket challenge by someone named “Amanuel Dawa”, who owns a popular club in DC metro, who was a former tegadalay.

            Then it took life of its own,etc. When the movement gained momentum, it wanted to create an umbrella group and it has gone through some challenges.

            If you remember, yiAkle didn’t start after Abiy visit to Asmara or when Isuye visit to Addis. It was after Isayas Afeworki did not say anything for months abd he gave interview where he says, there will not be any change in policy in regards to national service etc.

            May be weyane / sympathetic to them were involved after but it was not created to “derail the peace”.

            I honestly didn’t want to give weyane all the credit for doing “evil”. They didn’t even see it coming how “Abiy” was able to unseat them from power without any “fight”, they just handed him over and run.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            Some years back an Agazian awatista with many nicknames was encouraging the two ትግሬዎች to join forces and ascend to እንጦጦ ተራራ and rule both countries till Jesus Christ comes.
            It took me several attempts to wake him up from his hallucinations. Of course, I kicked his behind all the way to Agaziland.
            It is one of the best tourist attractions now with motorized ኩቺኔታ and other things too many to list.

            ደብረሰይጣን ምን እንዳለ ሰማህ?
            “አብይ ጥይት ሳይተኩስ ሊያንበረክከን ነው የሚፈልገው”::
            Those Tplf members in Addis already abandoned the criminal Tplf.

            Soon, the Agazians will drop the whole BS. Without sponsorship they go nowhere. Peace at last.

            Please check with Ato Amanuel. I haven’t seen him for a while.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            I read this guy complain while Abiy is trying out the motorized ኩቺኔታ, while the people are fighting grasshopper with their shash.

            Do the Ethiopians know that it doesn’t get that cold in Eritrea. One Gabi is enough for the rest of your life. How many Gabi have to give Isuye and what he will do with it. He only have one closet that he shares with his whole family and neighbours:).

            Honestly, I don’t know how will the stand-off will be resolved but I wish there was a better way. Not to protect TPLF / Weyane etc, but to see one successful trasition of power and build on self correcting system. This whole start from scratch is not really the ideal. Anyway good luck. Our guys fights even with dead people who served him all his life.

            I think the whole Agazian thing has slowed down and I don’t see much noise there days, specially since General Mesfin Hagos interview indicating he would work with TPLF to effect change.

            AH is doing good, just checked with him.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            ጋቢ is a symbol for friendship, respect, a highest level of hospitality. I have a really wealthy friend from ወላይታ ሶዶ. Every time he travels to his birthplace, his land cruiser is filled with the best ጋቢ money can buy. The ጋቢ must be heavy on your shoulders.

            There is no standoff. Only stand down by the Tplf from Dedebit. The Addis based Tplf has already joined PP.

          • Nitricc

            I honestly didn’t want to give weyane all the credit for doing “evil”.

            Hi Berhe; always one step forward three steps backward. After Digital went to work the Mekele university; the head public affairs and propaganda in the same university launched YaAkil BS. But you have to out of your ways to protect the thugs. If you had an observing mind; you could have figured it out, when ever internet is lost in Ethiopia; all the social media get quit and no YaAkil and digital donkeys. You know why? there over 1100 digital’s and YaAKil BS’s in the university of Mekelle whose is job is to confused the confused people like yourself.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Nitricc,

            I am not protecting the “thugs” as you put it, but giving credit to our people for standing up to the tyranny.

            YiAkle is not dead, as we speak it went through its conferences and doing well.

            I really don’t know much about the digital, except what you right here, under the “classified” information privilege that you have:).

            Please go ahead and beat them at their game.

            Berhe

          • Consolation

            Berhe Y.

            Where have you been the last 20 years. Thousands of conferences, meetings, rallies, symposiums have been held ad nausea. Every conceivable attempt has been tried. There was even a grand convocation of a parliament in exile formed under TPLF tutelage. YiAkl is just the latest idiotic phenomenon. The idea that the losers, a mishmash of former Weyane stooges, should imagine that it is a viable strategy to tell the winners YiAkle has to be the most stupid political move.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Consolation,

            Just because the attempt has failed and he has won, it doesn’t mean Eritrea is a just country.

            How many people get exited vs how many people return?

            If he is the best that the country to offer and you are full of it, why don’t you run elections and see he is elected.

            Berhe

          • Consolation

            Selam Berhe,

            I think I have answered this before. The last 20 years, while people like you were doing their best to destroy Eritrea, he and the Eritrean people were fighting to protect their sovereignty. This is not quantum mechanics that you should find difficult to understand. The war is now coming to an end and when we declare victory then I expect things to become normal. That is, the state of emergency that has been in effect will come to an end. The problem with the people who have sold out to the thugs is that they know that they are beyond redemption. So they will continue to chase the mirage by coming up with more ridiculous formulae until the almighty releases them from their misery.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Consolation,

            State of emergency? When was that declared? Which parliament/ National Assembly endorsed / approved it?

            Berhe

          • Saleh Johar

            Ras Abi,
            Regardless of your sometimes abrasive stings, I can always depend on your truthful quoting of what’s commented here. Indeed you are honest. I wish you could lend Nitricc a little of your observation skills—observation faculty would be too heavy 🙂

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Saleh
            As always, your wish is my command!
            I will immediately send ምልምል ሚሊሽያ ንትርክ to the closest “observation” boot camp.
            I will personally observe his observations progress and report back periodically.

            Thanks for your kind words.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Consolation,

            No body really gives a cr… p of your lies. You and others (Dongolo, Sultan) are collaborating to paint EIJ as if:

            – Terrorist Islamic Organization
            – it’s created by TPLF to fight against Eritrean people interests.

            Both lies and you can’t provide a real proof to substantiate. You can’t possibly expect anyone to believe the story of lies written by Yemene Ghebremeskel and PFDJ office and posted at PFDJ supported website.

            Can you post independent report like wiki leaks or other credible information.

            Funny the link Dongolo provided shows all the facts about the Eritrean opposition, which is:

            1) they want to hold peaceful conference in Eritrea including with the PFDJ
            2) they went to Ethiopia because, Ethiopia government provided the venue and they had no other choice. If they have the means, they prefer to hold it another place.
            3) Ethiopia government have no influence in their conference or meetings. The FM made a speech but it was closed door meeting.
            4) they have yes wish and desire to use violence to effect change.
            5) they see the Eritrean armed forces as part and parcel of the opposition and they will work with them to speed up regime change.

            These are the facts as clearly outlined by the US embassy in Ethiopia and communicated to the state department.

            Berhe

          • Brhan

            Hello Dongolo,

            The link that you provided is about the Asela, Ethiopia conference for the ENCDC which included many parties, secular, ethinic and religiose.

            Secondly EIJ came to the surface before the Eritrean independence. Its roots go back to the beginning of the 1980s.

            When you say “it has long been known that EIJ has been directly and indirectly backed by the TPLF”, and the subject, here is “long” ..does it mean in 80s 90s or after the Badme war?

            Note that I am not doing PR for EIJ ( which now changed its name to Eritrean Democratic party from Eritrean Islamic party for Development and Justice) or TPLF. I believe in secularism and strongly oppose foreign interference in Eritrea.

            My object is you and I to benefit other forum participants with comprehensive facts.

            FYI “Eritrean Red Sea Afars”, is not a religiose group but an ethinic group.

          • Saleh Johar

            Dongolo,
            Thanks for volunteering but my questions are complete sets and I asked a specific person.

          • Sultan

            GM Dongolo:
            I was disappointed with you for not PUSHING HARD as you know more and better.
            Well how about spitting up the truth about the long term agenda of the most or few of the MUSLIM ELF Leardership, the very reason the Western Intelligence and the King allegedly recruiting a Front crush that allegedly Arab-Muslim oriented Front?
            For some here, the Dr Hansen Al Turabi led and the Bin Ladin engineered Mujahidin Movement and a brief bloody Civil War in Barca to create an Islamic State of Eritrea is a hoax.
            The short lived Dangerously divisive and toxic Wuhabist movement in Eritrea is also a fake news for some ( which, btw, this movement is still active clandestinely .
            There has been reports also, based on the GoE sources, which I mentioned above, about a Diaspora based .elite Mudlim-brother god and Wuhabist-inspired Group ( don’t know their exact names)working underground and sponsored by sane countries .
            I belatedly understood the specific question, names and the Group the big shots are pushing hard the King to name them at “ A Gun Point”!
            Well, my source is the GoE and these “Very concerned and inquisitive Big SHOTS””should ask the GoE for specific names of the Individuals and Groups, which am sure the sophisticated PFDJ Intelligence Services can gladly provide them with “ Ample Evidence””!

      • Brhan

        Hi Nitricc,
        Consolation gave you an answer. Some times try to be matured person.

      • Semere Tesfai

        Selam Nitricc

        “Since Eritrean Muslims are with weyane thugs, all BS are expected. While we are on the subject, can you tell me why Eritrean Muslims are supporting the weyane? i just wanted to know. please help.”

        Nitricc: I’ve heard you asking this same question many times. And to this day, I suppose you haven’t got an answer that satisfy your question. So let me try to explain to you in a very blunt way. And hopefully, hopefully, that will answer your question. So let me try

        First, let me explain who the Muslims with the loudest voices that you hear here at Awate are. But first thing first……..

        1. – Please, please, please don’t assume all Eritrean Muslims support the Woyane thugs. Because they don’t. Eritrean Muslim opinions are not monolithic. Eritrean Muslim opinions are as diverse as their Christian compatriots. Only radical Islamists and Jihadists who hate Isaias Afewerki EPLF and ethnic Tigrigna more than they love Eritrea do.

        2.- Here at Awate, most of the very vocal haters of Isaias Afewerki, EPLF, PFDJ, are Islamists and Jihadists who hate Isaias Afewerki, EPLF, PFDJ and ethnic Tigrigna more than they love Eritrea. For these Islamists and Jihadists, Isaias Afewerki EPLF PFDJ and ethnic Tigrignas are interchangeable and one and the same. And when I say this, I make no bone about it.

        3. – When is the last you saw a positive image of ethnic Tigrigna on this website? None! When is the last time you saw an image of smiling faces of diverse Eritrean people, celebrating Eritrean National Holiday? Never! When is the last time you read, a coherent happy holiday wish, to Eritreans with the Christian faith? Probably none! When is the last time you saw a positive image of Eritrean brevery, courage, valor, victory celebration? None whatsoever!

        4. – The only positive image and positive coverage you see/read here at Awate is, only about September 1st and about our hero Hamid Idris Awate. And I suppose, the reason is, that historic Eritrean National Holiday has nothing to do with ethnic Tigrigna; the other days do.

        Now, why the unholy alliance of Islamists Jihadists and their sympathisers with the Woyane thugs and their supporters.

        5. – Nitricc: The simple answer to the unholy alliance between Eritrean Islamists Jihadists and the Woyane thugs is to break ethnic Tigrignas spine (backbone). Let me explain why:

        6. – The Woyanes stated objective was:

        A. – To defeat the PFDJ government by breaking ethnic Tigrigna’s spine. The reason: they knew for sure, if they manage to break the spine of ethnic Tigrigna with the help of all the other ethnics, half of their objective is completed – if not more than half.

        B. – After they break the spine of ethnic Tigrigna successfully, the Woyane’s objective was (1) to chop-off Denkalia from Eritrea by introducing Self Determination upto and including Secession article/clause (mirror image of Article 39) in the post PFDJ Eritrean constitution (2) erect strong walls between Eritrean ethnics, faiths, and regions (3) pit Eritreans against each other – brother against brother (4) encourage and pressure the weak, defeated, humiliated, divided along regions…. ethnic Tigrignas to unite with “their Tigrean brothers” for “safety” and “prosperity”

        7. – The objective of the Eritrean Jihadists, Islamists, and their sympathizers is:

        A. – To defeat Isaias Afewerki, the PFDJ regime, and ethnic Tigrigna as a whole

        B. – To unite Eritrean Muslims against ethnic Tigrignas; to empower Eritrean Muslims politically militarily economically and socially; and to establish a system and government that restores Islamic values

        C. – To evict all ethnic Tigrignas from all ancestral Muslim Lands. Meaning: all Eritrean Lowlands to be exclusive Muslim Lands and all Eritrean Kebessas Lands to belong to both Christians and Muslims

        7. – Therefore, the common denominator that brings the Eritrean Jihadists and Islamists with the Woyane thugs is to break the spine (backbone) of ethnic Tigrignas – hoping, at the end of the day, a united Eritrean Muslim power will prevail over the evil Woyanes.

        That is my two cents

        Semere Tesfai

        • Ismail AA

          Selam Semere Tesfai,

          What worries some of us is when individuals who very well know, and are aware of the realities in Eritrea, act in the way you have chosen to act: championing bigotry as head spokesman of entrenched fear mongering regime its supreme leader had sown, nourished and matured to superficial facade of foundation less pseudo-nationalism among some hoodwinked elites of the honorable Kebessa component of our society. I am referring to inhabitants of Kebessa because the term Tigrinya is misnomer derivation from Tigrawot to distinguish Tigrinya speakers in Eritrea from an authentic Tigrinya speakers who refer to themselves as Tigrawot.

          Having digressed this far, there is nothing knew and worthwhile to comment on about what have re-stated here. You have been repeating these rather damaging views to young Eritreans who deserve better guidance to unite and salvage their young nation. It is really sad Eritreans like you who had ac accompanied the costly pursuit of our people to restore their independent statehood just to sustain a regime that falsely as champion for ensuring the interest of one section of our people through bigotry and mongering of imagined fear.

          • Brhan

            Dear Ismail,
            I do not think Nitricc is so igrnorant to be lectured without proof.
            The young are smarter, at list they click , the nearest search engine.

          • Ismail AA

            Ahlen Brhan,
            Yes, they are. But it is real concern when individuals who should know well spearhead the campaign to poison the innocent state of mind of the young.

          • Consolation

            Selam Ismail,

            You wrote:

            I am referring to inhabitants of Kebessa because the term Tigrinya is misnomer derivation from Tigrawot to distinguish Tigrinya speakers in Eritrea from an authentic Tigrinya speakers who refer to themselves as Tigrawot.

            I have a number of issues with this.

            1) You claim that Tigrinya is a misnomer for the Tigrigna speaking people of Eritrea. I understand you live in England. The people there speak English and they are identified as English. The French people also speak French, Russians speak Russian, Germans speak German. In Eritrea itself, the Blin speak Blin, the Kunama speak Kunama and so on. So why is it a misnomer to call the Tigrigna speakers Tigrigna?

            2) You refer to Tigrayans as the authentic Tigrigna speakers. Since this implies that Eritrean Tigrigna speakers are not authentic and since the opposite of authentic is fake or spurious, the logical conclusion is that Eritrean Tigrigna speakers are fake. Now the Scots also speak English but they are not English. They know it and everyone else knows it. Is that what you mean when the Kebessa are not authentic? What is their ethnicity.

            3) You use the word Tigrawot to refer the people who speak Tigrigna and live in Tigray. But it als turns out that the Raya, Agew, Erob, Kunama, are also Tigrawot, although they may have their own ancestral languages. Just like Scots. My understanding is that Tigraway refers to the land and not the language just as Eritrean refers to land. So don’t you think assigning the name Tigrawot to the Tigrigna speakers of Tigray is alienating the other Tigrayans.

            4) I have read some addressing you as Ismailo from which I am justified to conclude that you are a Saho. As such you are a Kebessa yourself.

            It appears to me that you have been associating too much with Tigrawot who have the ridiculous notion to call Eritrean Tigrigna speakers as Northern Tigrawot. They may think that that would advance their agenda but the better strategy, in my opinion, is for them to identify themselves as the Tigrigna of Tigray.

        • Abi

          ወንድም አማች
          በተገኘህበት እርምጃ እንዲወሰድብህ ማዘዣ ስለወጣብህ ምሽግህን አጠናክር:)
          You earned the first downvote 🙂
          Congratulations!

          • Semere Tesfai

            ሰላም ወንድም አማች

            “በተገኘህበት እርምጃ እንዲወሰድብህ ማዘዣ ስለወጣብህ ምሽግህን አጠናክር:)
            You earned the first downvote 🙂
            Congratulations!”

            1. – Awate Nation is not PFDJ land. Here there is plenty of democracy – and I say that without reservation. They don’t have to shoot me; all they have to do is prove me wrong with facts.

            2. – Always, all the arrows are pointed at poor me. I’ve no allay (friend) to lean on. I had one Amara close friend that I was counting on him; but you know how Amaras are. Alas…… ኣማራ መቸ ይታመናል ብለህ ነው። ኣሁንስ፡ ከኣማራ፡ የመቀሌ ትግሬ is more trustworthy የሚል conclusion ደርሻለሁ።

            What do you think?

            Semere Tesfai

          • Abi

            ወንድም አማች
            ጉድ ፈላ ዘንድሮ!
            ደግነቱ መሪህ እንዳንተ አያስብም:)
            ወዲ አፎም ከመቀሌ ይልቅ ባህርዳር የቀረበው መንገድ ተሳስቶ መሰለህ?

          • Semere Tesfai

            ሰላም ወንድም አማች

            “ጉድ ፈላ ዘንድሮ!
            ደግነቱ መሪህ እንዳንተ አያስብም:)
            ወዲ አፎም ከመቀሌ ይልቅ ባህርዳር የቀረበው መንገድ ተሳስቶ መሰለህ?”

            ኢሱ፡ ኣቢ ኣህመዱን ይዞ፡ ኣዲስና ባሕርዳርን ጥሬ ስጋው እየበላ ይስቃል። እኔ፡ ኣቢየን ከድቶኝ (betrayed me)፡ በለስም ቢሆን ጨንቆኝ፡ በተራበው ሆዴ፡ ብጩቤ ሌት ተቀን እዚህ እገረፋለሁ።

            “ደግነቱ መሪህ” ሽልማት የተራበ ሆድ ኣይሞላም፡ ከጩቤም ኣያድንም። ምን ይሆንልኛል?

            Thank you for the nice compliment though; it put a smile on my face.

            N.B.: Amharic is very hard for a poor ጨጓር ዳንጋ። I need to move to the African capital in case that helps.

            Semere Tesfai

          • Consolation

            Hello Semere,

            2. – Always, all the arrows are pointed at poor me. I’ve no allay (friend) to lean on.

            I am a relatively new comer to this site so I haven’t read most of your past output. A friend of mine once recommended to me that I should read your past posts because, in his view, you were the only voice of sanity in those heady days when the Weyane were at the pinnacle of their power and it seemed to most of their servants like they would march any day to Asmara and install their vassals in Eritrea. I have read a couple and was very much impressed. So don’t despair, there are those who admire your courage to operate in a hostile environment and your exceptional prescience. In fact, I suggest that you collect your best pieces, edit and arrange them, give them structure and publish them in the form of a book. The history of what was happening in the last 20 years, both in the real world and the cyber-space, needs to be written and I suggest you take the opportunity.

          • Abi

            Consolation
            Semere T is one of the finest ጨጏር ዳንጋ of all time.
            Don’t worry about the arrows pointing at him. I’m here to defend and protect my ወንድም አማች.
            ዘራፍ!

          • Semere Tesfai

            Selam Consolation

            “A friend of mine once recommended to me that I should read your past posts because, in his view, you were the only voice of sanity in those heady days when the Weyane were at the pinnacle of their power and it seemed to most of their servants like they would march any day to Asmara and install their vassals in Eritrea. I have read a couple and was very much impressed.”

            1. – Consolation: Thank you for the nice words. Yes, the past fights were vicious. I’ve been in this trench since 2009. And when the best minds of the Ali Salim brand on one side and the best minds of the Woyane brand on the other – of course Western Corporate Media on their side – are throwing endless arrows in your face, to say the least, it was not easy to stand your ground and fight back. But I’m an old man. I’ve been in this fight for too long, I’ve argued about Eritrea’s hot potato issues all my life – way before Awate. And that helps a lot.

            If you want to admire people, admire the likes of Nitricc. Nitricc has been in this fight right after his high school years – throwing right-hook, left-hook, and uppercut power punches knocking them all. He is the testament of Eritrean tenacity courage persistence and love of country. He is the one who deserve all the medals and praises.

            2. – “In fact, I suggest that you collect your best pieces, edit and arrange them, give them structure and publish them in the form of a book. The history of what was happening in the last 20 years, both in the real world and the cyber-space, needs to be written and I suggest you take the opportunity.”

            I don’t know if that would be a wise thing to do. The reason: (a) even if I do that, I’m not going to do it for the money – Eritrea being a small country with a small markate. If I’m going to do it, I’m going to do it for the love of my country (b) all the things I wrote are not lost, they are all somewhere on the cyberspace. Anybody can access (retrieve) them and use them anytime.

            My family and many of my friends tell me to write a book about my Ghedli experience which (a) enough is not written about it (b) is nowhere in the cyberworld and (c) is not accessible to anyone. We are burying our heroes and heroines each day – burying our priceless history with them. So, if I am able to write a book, I think it would be wise for me to use the little money and little time I have, to write a book about my Ghedli experience. At least that is what I’ve been thinking.

            And one more thing: I joined Ghedli right after ህዝባዊ ሓይልታት split from ELF. When I joined Ghedli ELF combatants were about 2,500 Tegadalties. Me and ELF grew together. I knew almost all the top ELF leaders and they knew me by name. And I was part of the ELF growing and dying pains in every way. That’s my reason.

            Again, thank you for the nice words and thank you for all the respect

            Semere Tesfai

          • sara

            selam ato semere,
            actually i also wish you write a book, as you have a different perspective (per my observation in your writings here) about sewra from jebha’s vantage point. most of the literature we read is from shaabia’s perspective , and jebha abay being the mother of the struggle i think it will be good we also learn its story .

          • Brhan

            Abi
            ጥሩ ትእዛዝ ነው። ምሽጉ ሆኖ ማስረጃ ኣሰባስቦ ጎራ እንዲል ከሚል ቅን መንፈስህ እንድሆን ኣልጠራርጠርም።

          • Abi

            Brhan
            ግምትህ የተሳሳተ አይደለም:: ማስረጃው ግን Adoulis.com እንደማይሆን ጥርጥር የለኝም::

          • Brhan

            Abi,
            Let us be in the same page: Nitricc desrves facts ( evidences, proof, names of organizations, their programs, the name of their leaders) to the lectures titled “Eritrean Muslims support TPLF’.
            N/B Nitricc has apologized for that statement

          • Abi

            Brhan
            Glad to see you back on the regular page, Awate.com. You kind of ventured out to another page only to find yourself in a dark place where you only hear strange voices.

            Now, what was the topic again?
            Got it! I think ጨጏር ዳንጋ ሠመረ ተስፋይ explained himself well and invited probable challenges. Last time I checked, he is halfway into the foxhole. Grab him by his ሼዳ and challenge him. Make sure to hold him upside down.

            ኢሱ ጭሱ ዛሬ ቁርሱን የበላው አዲስ የተለቀመ የቡና ፍሬ ነው::

          • Brhan

            Abi,
            Ok at awate.com, we do not grab! It is a platform where one can say freely. If he has evidence, he will show us, if he won’t show up, we will understand that, it was all well written fiction.

          • Abi

            Brhan
            There are always exceptions to the rule.
            How about if you challenge him item by item? Otherwise, he will keep kicking your behind all the way to Barka. Last time he kicked Paul’s behind, Paul found himself at Mekele ጠመኔ ማምረቻ.

          • Brhan

            Abi ,
            I did shoot one but sharp bullet. I am sure I did not miss him. He did not reply.
            Barka, good , I was afraid I will endup at Fin Fine or Adama!

          • Abi

            Brhan
            Finfine and Adama are reserved for me. See why I behave properly when he is around:)

          • Brhan

            Abi,
            I thought Assab is reserved for you? Did you change your mind?

          • Abi

            Brhan
            You guys already finished renovating Assab?
            On my way…
            Somebody move the camels please!

            ኢሱ ቀበቶውን ታጥቆ ወገቡን አጥብቆ
            ወደቡን አድሶ በሚገባ አጠናቆ
            ያስረክባል ለባለቤቱ የገባውን ቃል ጠብቆ!
            የኢትዮጵያ ፍቅር ሊገለው ነው አስጨንቆ!

          • Brhan

            Abi,
            Now you are misbehaving when he is not arround!

          • Abi

            Brhan
            It is way past his bedtime:)

        • Brhan

          Hello Semere,
          Nitricc is smart not to be lectured from a lecturer who came without references.

        • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

          ሰላም ሰመረ
          ሓደ ሓደ ክብል!

          ሽናባራ ዓርኪ-ቦይ
          ኣስላማይ
          ኔሩ

          ሓላል! ሃገራዊ ቅኑዕ
          ፈሊጥ! ኣስተውዓሊ ተባዕ
          ኔሩ
          ሓላፍነቱ ከፊሉ
          ኣብ ግዜ ህግደፍ ግን
          እስላማዊ ተባሂሉ
          እዝስ
          ቅኑዕ ዶ መስለካ?
          ኣይመስለንን ኣነ

          • Brhan

            MM
            We missed you. Hope everything is OK

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Selamat Brhan,
            I am doing well, just busy. For some reason, I am more busier during Covid, than ever, but no complain.

            When some one asks how the Eritrean societies get along well…the answer will be summarized to:
            ብርዚ ምስ ሜስ
            ብርሃን ምስ በርሀ
            ኣብ ሓደ ዳስ
            ኣቤት ክጥዕም ምትሕውዋስ
            ናይ የሕዋት!

          • Abi

            Brhan
            MM said that he will be very busy for the coming months. He is going through software updates and programming. Lately he was acting kind of erratic. Of course, you never paid attention:)

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Abi,
            Lately, your translation is getting weak, to say the least.
            I will send you the updated patch and I am sure it will help, biggly [if I am ay use my Presidente’s word] 🙂

          • Abi

            MM
            I almost missed you.
            ያንተ ብሬዘዳንት ጅማ ቡና ለቀማ ኮርስ ላይ ነው::
            When he visited Jimma university, he suggested that Abiy should break the university into seven pieces.
            When he visited the ግልገል ግቤ dam he suggested to make it bigger like the one he built in Eritrea.

            On a serious note, I haven’t seen Amanuel Hidrat lately. Any idea?

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Abi,
            Forget the university, I am afraid he will break your country into pieces. He is good on breaking 🙂

          • Abi

            MM
            Good one!
            The thing is he will break Eritrea into pieces to keep his Ethiopia intact.
            He was so happy today when all those people greeted him. He doesn’t get that kind of treatment in the other country.
            He loves it big time!

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Abi,
            Unfortunately, I agree with you on this 🙁

          • Brhan

            Abi
            Can you help me what we say a ghost in Amharic, because, someone you know in search for a ghost….

        • Brhan

          Merhaba Semere

          1. Are not the radical Islamist and Jihadist have no face, name and website addresses. Why you do not help Nitricc properly instead of giving him fluid answer.

          2. Who are these, do you have their names? What do you call Christians here at Awate who hate IA, EPLF or PFDJ? Christian Phatnic?

          3. This is a lie! You have been in awate.com for long and I am sure all Christian faith celebrations have being publicized at awate.com. Christmas, Kudus Yohannes. But if you think that awate is missing other celebrations, for example, like Mesqel, you can just tell them and I do not think they will refuse to your request. As simple as that.

          4. You are repeating the same message of #3

          5. This is fluid. You are giving Nitricc half of the story. The Eritrean Islamic movement was born in early 1980s. And its roots even go to 70s. The only evidence that another commentator provided in this thread talks only about the Awasa, Ethiopia, Eritrean Democratic Alliance conference where two Eritrean Islamic parties sat with other non- religious groups to form ENCDC. Is this the only example of the “unholy alliance” that you have in your mind or you have another evidence.

          6. Here I do not understand if you are speaking about religion or ethnicity. I do not see # 6 any relevance to your main topic. There is a mix between political groups based on religion with that of ethnicity. While you name the Afars, you do not name those who are calling for the Tigrayan brothers? Do not they have names, faces and YouTube accounts.

          7. Here is the big point. I do not know why you cannot name organization/s .

          The organization that you failed to name is now called Eritrean Democratic Party. Before it was called the Eritrean Islamic party for democracy and development. And originally its name was called Eritrean Jihad Movement and it was established way back to the 80s. To understand about this movement and its metamorphosis please refer: http://awate.com/eritrean-opposition-party-transforms-renamed-hadi/

          The way how you are using the word Jihad is copied from the regime in Eritrea when it used it prior“ the Chifra Weyane” discourse. Please listen to assena interview with two Badme war veterans (ATV:ተዘክሮ ኲናት ከባቢ ባድመ ብዓይኒ መንእሰያት: ስታፍ ምልክት ከ/ብረት ሙልጌታ ተ/መድህን (ወዲ ሊያ)፡ ጋዜጠኛ ኪዳነማርያም ደስበለ – 1ይ ክፋል October 12, 202 ) to see how the regime used the word Jihad not only to create fear among Eritreans but also to engage foot soldiers in search of an imaginary enmey.

          Also how do you explain about the land issue of the Kunama, Belin and Mensaa vis a viz their religion.

          If you really want to help Nitricc understand Eritrea and Eritreans using Islamophobia won’t be the correct approach. The correct approach is facts and telling facts starts when you give a name, a face and an address to the reader so that he or she can go see the programs, mottos, values and missions of those groups that you are talking about in order to enable him or her reach to judgment.

          If you have any question so that I can clarify, do not hesitate to drop me a comment

          • Semere Tesfai

            Selam Brhan

            1. – “Are not the radical Islamist and Jihadist have face, name and website addresses. Why you do not help Nitricc properly instead of giving him fluid answer.”

            Yes, the Islamists and Jihadists do have names faces website addresses; and Nitricc knows that. That is not what Nitricc asked though.

            2. – ” What do you call Christians here at Awate who hate IA, EPLF or PFDJ? Christian Phatnic?”

            They are called opposition, Unionists, and AgAzians; and again, Niticcc knows that; and that is not what he asked.

            3. – “All Christian faith celebrations have being publicized at awate.com. Christmas, Kudus Yohannes. But if you think awate is missing other celebrations, for example, you can just tell them and I do not think they will refuse to your request.”

            Few points here:

            A. – For years and years, the pattern has been so consistent and so predictable, one has to be stupid not to notice, or to fall for some lame excuses

            B. – For example there is one on the front page. It says ርሑስ በዓል. ርሑስ በዓል what? ርሑስ በዓል ህጻናት? ርሑስ በዓል ፍቑራት? ርሑስ በዓል ሩፋኤል? ርሑስ በዓል ነጻነት? ርሑስ በዓል ደቀንስትዮ? ርሑስ በዓል ገብርኤል? ርሑስ በዓል what?

            C. – The Awate people were born and raised in the heart of Tigrina Land, they went to school with ethnic Tigrigna kids, የኣር ኣፍተር የኣር they have taken days off from school during Christian Holidays, they had/have Tigrigna neighbours, they played with Tigrigna kids all day long; they have seen ethnic Tigrigna holidays come and go year after year…….. They can’t play “we didn’t know” excuse.

            4. – “You are giving Nitricc half of the story. The Eritrean Islamic movement was born in early 1980s. And its roots even go to 70s.”

            A. – Brhan: Nitricc didn’t ask me anything. I volunteered. If I’m telling him half of the story, then give him the whole story. He will be happy to hear your take. He will be glad to learn from you – as his Muslim compatriot.

            B. – Please tell him – why a proud Eritrean Muslim would cozy-up with TMH (Tigray Media House) and Woyane leaders? I know you don’t have the guts to tell him straight up; but just want to let you know what he is asking.

            C. – Nitricc didn’t ask about the history of the Eritrean Islamist and Jihadist organizations. He knows what he needed to know. I don’t know why you brought that.

            5. – The way how you are using the word Jihad is copied from the regime in Eritrea when it used it prior“ the Chifra Weyane” discourse.”

            Brhan: I don’t even know what you’re talking about here. I didn’t learn anything from the PFDJ regime. The PFDJ regime didn’t label them anything. They named themselves and their organizations proudly Islamic Jihad. When they chose to identify themselves as “Islamic Jihad” people started calling them by their name. Don’t try to blame others or make excuses for them here

            6. – “Also how do you explain about the land issue of the Kunama, Belin and Mensaa vis a viz their religion”

            In Eritrea, there is no Kunama Land, Bilen Land, MensaE Land, Muslim Land, Christian Land….. In Eritrea land is owned by the state. Every Eritrean citizen shall have a usufruct right over land – is the law of the land.

            Of course until you defeat the PFDJ regime. Then you can have your own government and your own laws that reflect your values.

            7. – “If you really want to help Nitricc understand Eritrea and Eritreans using Islamophobia won’t be the correct approach. The correct approach is facts and telling facts starts when you give a name, a face and an address to the reader so that he or she can go see the programs, mottos, values and missions of those groups that you are talking about in order to enable him or her reach to judgment.”

            A. – Again, Nitricc didn’t ask me personally, he asked to all of us including you.

            B. – If you don’t like what I told him, if you think what I told him is half of the story, if you believe there is a correct approach to tell story; if you believe there is a rational explanation to the Woyane Eritrean-Muslim organizations cozying-up……then give him the whole truth. He will be more than happy to hear your take.

            C. – Please, please, please Nitricc is not interested in names, addresses, and histories of Eritrean Muslim leaders and organizations – just the rationale for the unholy alliance.- if you’ve the guts to tell it like it is

            Semere Tesfai

          • Brhan

            Merhaba Semere again

            You failed to answer to the big point #7? Has it become the elephant in the room.

            1) Have you listned to the assena.com interview of yesterday: October 12,2020. or not? :(ATV:ተዘክሮ ኲናት ከባቢ ባድመ ብዓይኒ መንእሰያት: ስታፍ ምልክት ከ/ብረት ሙልጌታ ተ/መድህን (ወዲ ሊያ)፡ ጋዜጠኛ ኪዳነማርያም ደስበለ – 1ይ ክፋል October 12, 202

            2) The interview is in Tigrinaya and the information is Jihad was a creation of PF(DJ). Look I am not saying but the interviewee.

            3) PF(DJ) used it to divert the nations from not implementing the constitution. Here again not my word but the interview.

            4) Poor soldiers have to look for this enemy who have no face, leg, hands….can we say Jihad is a ghost?

            5) In the interview, the interviewee says the regime has to kill its own soldiers by its own soldiers who depidted them selves as “Jihad” so that it announce it as real.

            6) I better stop here and let you listen to it and then I can continue discussing with you .

            Does this help?

          • Semere Tesfai

            Selam Brhan

            Brhan: please stay focused; and keep your eyes on the ball.
            Nitricc asked YOU BRHAN a simple question. He asked you this:

            “Can you (Brhan) tell me why Eritrean Muslims are supporting the weyane? i just wanted to know. please help.”

            Can you stop the side issues (ጓል ዘረባ) for now and give him a straight answer?

            Semere Tesfai

          • Sultan

            Vet Tegadalai Sem:
            And Ustaz Brhan got the gist of your message in its ENTIRETY besides understanding Nitric’s question.
            He knows every details but has to defend/cover up things for obvious reasons!
            A tough and sensitive question Nittric added INDIRECTLY was:
            “Why are the “Christians” suspicious about the “intention or the agenda”( if any) of the Muslim Eritreans”?
            The answer for this is obvious !
            My personal opinion as someone said it is “We Eritreans don’t want to be another Egypt, Iraq or Lebanon”!

          • Brhan

            Hello Ustaz Sultan,
            Please see my answer to Semere, below

          • Brhan

            Merhaba Semere.
            In bold letters you said from the begning :
            Only radical Islamists and Jihadists who hate Isaias Afewerki EPLF PFDJ and ethnic Tigrignas more than they love Eritrea do love the Woyanes.
            And in Assena.com October 12, 2020 Ato Mulugeta Teweldemedhin and Ato Kidanemariam Desbele have informed ” Jihad is a fake story creatd by Isaias Afewereki!.
            NOW TELL ME WHO IS NOT FOCUSED.
            You who is telling (ጓል ዘረባ) because unable to present a simple proof or I who came with concreate evidence, like the above?
            But Semere, if you can’t come, I sympatize with you , because , that propoganda brain washed you. Go listen to it again, you may start to think critically.

        • Nitricc

          Hi Semere; I do admire you for your courage to say it. I really do appreciate you shared your opinion openly. What you have done is, you gave me a homework the hard one. I will investigate, search and research and I will share my opinion as courageous as you have. I don’t Eritrea and I don’t know the real culture of the people in to day to day lives but reading and following the history and what happened to the people of Eritrea, they have no choice but to stick with each other. Because they stick with each other they prevailed to impossible challenges. Reading the events, so far from what I have found, that is, you can see what made Eritrea, Eritrea.

          * 1967-07-24 Hazemo: 172 Deaths Several villages wiped out and the throats of men slit in front of their wives and children

          * Late 1967 Akordat : 50 Killed Students suspected of being members of the ELF were hanged in the center of town. Parents of the slain were forced, by the Ethiopian Army, to hang their dead children and take them home.

          * 1970-01-17 Elabared: 60 village elders were rounded up for supporting the Eritrean Liberation Front and killed.

          * 1970-11-30 Basik Dera: The entire village of 120 people was rounded up into the local mosque and the mosque’s doors were locked, the building was then razed and survivors were shot.

          * 1970-12-01 Ona: Ethiopian Army units surrounded the village killing 800+ civilians and burning down the village.

          * 1974-07-10 Om Hajer: 170 Civilians Killed

          * 1974-12-28 Asmara: 45 Students were strangled to death using piano strings, their bodies were dumped in alleyways and doorsteps.

          * 1971 Keren: Approx 70 Students and youth suspected of supporting the ELF were publicly executed by hanging. Family members were forced to attend the execution and cut down their children from the noose.

          * 1975-02-14 Asmara, and Surrounding villages: 331–500, and 3000 Civilians were massacred. Shortly after an EPLF attack on two Ethiopian divisions, Ethiopian troops fire upon civilians gathered in Churches, homes and schools.

          * 1975-02-02 Woki Duba: Approx 150 Civilian People were massacred after an engagement with the EPLF and ELF the Ethiopian Army attacked the church where villagers had taken refuge.

          * 1975-03-09 Agordat: 258 Civilia People were killed after several ELF attacks on the town the Ethiopian Army retaliated on the local population.

          * 1975-04-17 Hirgigo: Approx 500 people were massacred.

          * August 1975 Om Hajer: 250 Resident villagers were machine gunned in front of a river to prevent escape.

          * 1976-12-30 Hirgigo: Again 110 Civilian people killed

          * 1985-10-19 Mogoraib : 39 Civilians Killed

          * 1988-12-05 She’eb: 400+ mostly women and children were cowardly massacred as the men had moved to the towns to eke out a living for their impoverished village.

          I have left out TPLF’s untold crimes because i don’t want to anger to the TPLF lovers. As you can see, under that kind brutality and massacre, the Eritrean people had no choice but to unite and do miracles. At least that was my initial intuition. However; you have giving me a homework, let me dig up. Although I do agree there some elite and confused Eritrea Muslims who will do anything for TPLF, anything the likes of Towkil Taha. You will be amazed what he is doing to revive the dead thugs.

        • Aron

          Hi Semere,
          You are preaching to the choir. Nitric is the chief culprit. Good luck with it. You forgot to mention Nitric is one of this jihadist you described above trying to achieve all the goals you stated above using the useful idiot ISU instead of weyane.
          Nitric said “Hi Aron, you are even dumber that i thought. You don’t know Eritrea and Eritreans because you are not. The other day i was talking with a Tigryan and among other discussions he told me that Eritrea has changed. i said how come? he responded that when the border was opened he said he visited Eritrea and he said the border guards can’t speak Tigrigna and i was sad, he said. I told him, finally the real owners took charge of their country. What your stupid Agazi behind you failed to understand is Eritrea is shaping nicely, the real owners of Eritrea are in place. The next president of Eritrea going to be a lowlander a Muslim. The other day i was telling Beyan that Mesfin Hagos is irreverent because the Army is completely changed, the real Eritreans are taking over, that is none Tigrigna speakers. I am very happy Eritrea is not under double dippers like you. the Real Eritreans are taking ownership of their country, Go cry with the thugs as a thug you are.”
          HE said kebesa depopulation is a good thing so the “real eritreans metahit moslems can take over”. He also said he said he does not want to work with gebreananias. You are preaching to the choir. He is the chief culprit. Good luck with it.

  • said

    Greetings,

    Thank you Semere Tesfamicael Habtemariam , reviewing Made In Ethiopia book was quite enlightening
    Today We need more the likes Dr. Mohammed A Nurhussien ,in foot step of Martin Luther King and Archbishop Desmond Tutu. From Christian perspective , in short they dealt with racism head based on equality, brotherhood, love , repentance, atonement, forgiveness, redemption, salvation other religions like Islam and Judaism teach something similar concept .
    Anti-racism movements lead by key figures Martin Luther King and Archbishop Desmond Tutu dealt with Christian concepts of original sin, and justice and hope come together, we start to see incremental change?

    How far we are from Jesus instructions love each other, love their neighbors and love Their God, the simpler teachings of Jesus and original teachings of Jesus. With no popes, no hierarchy, no earthly power and no Roman Catholic church corruption?

    According to the gospels, Jesus spent much of his ministry decrying Self-Righteousness, attacking those who believed themselves to be untouched by sin. He deployed an array of striking images in his condemnation:
    “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?” he asks. Elsewhere, he calls some of the moral arbiters of the day “whitewashed tombs” Saint Paul was honest about this. “I do not understand my own actions,” he wrote. “For I do not do what I want, but I do the very thing I hate.” He went on: “I do not do the good I want, but the evil I do not want is what I do.”

    Black Christian have to deal with Pentecostalism among many ,with no hope in sight for equality then comes , a tiny fringe of Christianity, the very opposite of Martin Luther King and Archbishop Desmond Tutu ,they would renounce irrational supernaturalism. History tell us as reported Jesus was born in Nazareth which was a small village in Galilee which, in turn was part of ancient Palestine which had been under Babylonian, Egyptian, Israeli, Persian, Greek and Roman control at various times. At the time of Jesus, Galilee was a Roman territory with a Roman king, Herod Antipas. Jesus decides to take on the Jewish authorities much like the prophets before him and the God that the Jews claimed to worship, the God of Love. they too were the Sons and Daughters of the great Jehovah . Jesus criticized the Jewish authorities for putting their man-made kingdom above Gods kingdom.

    As one example far way from teaching Jesus of Nazareth,1900 remote , Just over a century ago, a little-Educated evangelist named William Seymour, a son of ex-slaves, preached that modern Americans could “get the tongues” as the apostles did. In a Los Angeles slum, he led followers in ardent prayer, hoping for the “rushing mighty wind” from heaven.

    The Book of Acts says the risen Jesus told his apostles “ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.” And when they gathered on Pentecost, “suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind… and there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire… and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues.” L.A. newspaper reported:“ They cry and make howling noises all day and into the night. They run, jump, shake all over, shout to the top of their voice, spin around in circles, fall out on the sawdust-blanketed floor jerking, kicking and rolling all over it. Some of them pass out and do not move for hours as though they were dead. These people appear to be mad, mentally deranged or under a spell.”
    Pentecostalism became the name of the practice, and it snowballed into a national, then worldwide, movement. The Assemblies of God was established in 1914, followed by the Pentecostal Assemblies of the World in 1916 and the Pentecostal Church of God in 1919. “An estimated 35,000 people join the Pentecostal church each day. Of the world’s 2 billion Christians, a quarter are now Pentecostal — up from 6 percent in 1980.”

    For decades, Pentecostals remained a remote fringe, derided as “holy rollers.” But gradually, they inched into the mainstream. Republican politicians like Sarah Palin and John Ashcroft were Assemblies of God believers.
    Roman Catholic, The joining of Church and State, Doctrine of Discover and Donation of Constantine , and the Conquest of the World ,as reported

    Major issue that Martin Luther King and Archbishop Desmond Tutu ,they dealt with the most damaging policy ever enacted in human history and dreadful doctrine are felt to this day. is “Doctrine of Discover or “Inter Caetera”, of 1493, also known as the Papal Bull “was issued in the name of Jesus Christ, by Pope Alexander VI on May 4, 1493 declared by the Roman Catholic Church, .Papal Bull stated that land that was not inhabited by Christians could be claimed and exploited in order to expand and instill the Christian faith. this was the justification for European expansion to Africa and south America that resulted in exploitation and mass extermination. Europeans began explore and conquer the poor third world countries , they took land with support of their governments and the blessing of the Church in the form of The Doctrine Of Discovery.
    Another edict, or doctrine more than 750 years ago inhuman justification of this oppression as stated by Thomas Aquinas in 1271: “Unbelievers deserve not only to be separated from the church, but also to be exterminated from the world by death.” this un Christian, unjust “doctrine” The 1493 Papal decree aimed to justify Christian European explorers’ claims on land and promote Christian domination and superiority, and has been applied in Africa, Asia, Australia, New Zealand, and the Americas. According to historical records first stared taking shape sometime around 1100. In 1455 pope Nicholas issued the Romanus Pontifix giving Portugal a monopoly of African trade which “legally” started the trading of human slaves. In 1493 pope Alexander gave the world the Inter Caetera which gave the kings of Europe legal for countries above and gave European monarchs under the authority of the Roman Church, the blessing and free license to subjugate and murder millions of indigenous people.and this goes completely against Christian teaching,
    Christian need to listen to Martin Luther King and Archbishop Desmond Tutu and to listen and understand the unholy alliance between religion and the state, many people today would have a difficult time telling where government ends and religion begins, we must to voices that have been silenced and disregarded for centuries. These voices tell a frequently overlooked story about the origins of the north and south America and United States.

    The Holy Roman Empire, Nicene Creed and Donation of Constantine
    In year 324 AD after a civil war within the Roman Empire ,Constantine come to power , Constantine , the Edict of Milan in 313,and produced Nicene Creed which was a record of Christian belief, and he build The Church of the Holy Scelpechur and gave power over the Western Empire to the pope. With this “Donation of Constatine” the beginnings of the alliance between the Roman Empire and the Church of Jesus, referred as The Holy Roman Empire. In short summary this unholy alliance between the Roman Empire and first Christian government and the corruption of the church, some Christian called anti-Christ , came into power. The Catholic Church corrupted both the teachings of Jesus and the spirit of Jesus of Galilee, until the New Reformation of Martin Luther whose goal was to free Christians from papal authority and what was seen as corruption throughout the church. Today we see .The support of Donald Trump with Mike Pence Comes from the Evangelical Christian Church which is composed of Christians from most every denomination, both Catholic and protestant. In particular, where religion meets today’s politics,

  • Nitricc

    Hi All; i am stunned by this artist. He covered it. good job. This Asmara thing is eating me away. One day, just one day, here i come Asmara, Eritrea. Wow. Is the artist Eritrean. i will be more intrigued if he is Ethiopian
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wd9gO09DUMQ
    .

    • Abi

      General
      As expected you are a little bit too late. Somebody else posted this song a while back. ፈዛዝ!
      I wish Asmara was at the background showing the faces and places …
      The singer is an Ethiopian.

      Are you on witness protection program? The only acceptable excuse you got for not visiting your country.

      • Nitricc

        Ras Abiy; i have no idea some one posted this wonderful clip. impressive
        regarding visiting my home land and taking over sawa is, the magic number is 40. full pension and retired, and free of salary serving my people and my country. Sir, i have a plan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • Abi

          General
          Wish you all the best.

          • Nitricc

            Ras Abiy: thanks. there is on life and i intend to put it on meaningful things. And congrats for peaceful Meskerem 30. I was kind of worried. don’t undermind the TPLF thugs and the stupid OLF-Hshenes.

  • sara

    selamat..
    I heard one of the professors has taken sabbatical leave…since one week ? hope he shows up soon.

  • Brhan

    Hello awate:
    For the weekend I chose this program for you. As an Eritrean, I wish peace to prevail in our neighouring counties. This one is about Ethiopia , those who love soccer and they kow who they are , will enjoy the last part of this program;
    https://www.aljazeera.com/program/people-power/2020/10/8/the-battle-for-ethiopia/

    Have a good weekend

  • Simon Kaleab

    Selam all,

    Nearly half of the young people in North Africa and the Middle East say they are either actively trying to migrate or are considering migrating to another country, according to the 12th ASDA’A BCW Arab Youth Survey.

    The survey, which interviewed 4,000 people aged 18 to 24 across 17 states in the Middle East and North Africa (MENA), found that 42 per cent of those polled wanted to leave their home countries and migrate elsewhere, and 40 per cent have thought of moving to another country in a permanent basis.

    Similar surveys taken in recent years have also shown a strong desire to migrate in other regions such as sub-Saharan Africa. In 2018, a Pew Research Center study revealed that as many as two-thirds of sub-Saharan African’s 1.1 billion people wanted to migrate to either Europe or the United States within a five year period.

    Source: Breitbart

    • Nitricc

      Hi SK; what is the moral of the story? In my opinion; Africa is the future and it will be catastrophic for young people to leave Africa. Unfortunately the white man throw you at your face the words of election and democracy so, the white man can rob you your row materials while you argue about democracy and rigged elections. Just for the record; democracy will never materialized with out social justice in Africa.

      • NewDawn

        Selam nitricc, what are your reasons for thinking africa is the future? I dont share your optimism, especially when Africans like you adopt victomology and still blame tsaeda.

        The continents cursed. Accept this reality.

      • Consolation

        Selam Saleh and Nitricc,

        Nitro, welcome back. Humans are nomadic by nature: the more venturesome will seek and go to greener pastures. And since the advent of technology has made information about those greener pastures available to almost everyone and has made travel easier, no one should be surprised that a large number of people would want to go to Europe and the USA. In fact, migration is one of the biggest looming global problems. I heard an analyst predict that nations will be forced to shoot people at their borders as millions try to force their way in.

        Saleh, it has nothing to do with dictatorship. Saudi Arabia is not a haven of democracy. Yet few Saudis migrate. As long as the economic conditions are satisfactory, people will state put. 30 years ago, there were a lot of Chinese immigrants. Now that China is doing well, migration out of China is not an issue. About 4 million Canadian live outside of Canada, not because Canada is not democratic, but because they find it more comfortable to do so. 75% of people who claim Scottish ancestry live outside of Scotland. Those who left were not running out of dictatorships but poverty. It is much worse for the Irish. There are over 70 million people of Irish ancestry living outside their native Ireland (both North and South) with only 6 million in their homeland.

        • Saleh Johar

          Consolation,
          Thank you for the explanation. But as the old story and the elephant goes, there are many answers to a question. Or, there are many ways to skin a cat. My version of the story is the most real from my vintage points. But if they are skinning the cat, I don’t care how they do it, but it remains terrible. For me, it’s governance.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Saleh,

            In most dictatorships, migration for economic reasons can be traced back to ineptitude in governance.

    • Saleh Johar

      Simon,
      I don’t believe the survey . I would say all the people want to leave their countries to the tyrants, not 42%. And I understand why. I have been in their shoes.

      • Simon Kaleab

        Selam Saleh,

        One reason could be that not everyone is prepared to express their opinions, even anonymously. Even an ‘unwise’ comment while on the bread queue could land you in hot water.

    • David Samson

      Selam Simon,
      The only surprising bit from the survey is that the low figure itself. We have a habit of equating democracy with wealthiness, and we spent our entire life to attain it, but democracy is a means, but not end in self. Let’s make my point with an example:

      A journalist randomly was interviewing Tunisians since the fall of the dictator and the restoration of some form of democracy. What one man said strikes me:

      “During the dictator we had bread, but now we have democracy
      but not bread”

      Tunisia has held three to four elections over the last ten years, but what has democracy brought to the ordinary Tunisians?

      Democracy is cited as the best system for society to function. The assumption is that stable societies are more likely to prosper. If a person is free, they can pursue their full potential. If a country does not produce the basic goods, people not only question the whole exercise of attaining democracy, but also feel apathy, and consequently seek green pastures.

      You can no longer deceive people by playing the national card. The fundamental question is where do people could migrate?

      Getting into Europe has been getting tight. I thought the UK has sealed off, but people find ways to get in. When the Calais jungle was closed, immigration has gone down substantially. Now, The English Channel is the gateway rout. I think the British government is being caught napping. Even if the route is closed, they might find other means to get in. Dropping people using Drone is being considered.

      The usual headlines on illegal immigrants are most likely to be East Africans caught up being smuggled. This misleading headline hides one important fact: most immigrants are from Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Bangladesh. These people travel across three continents to get into Europe, sometimes spending over a year on the road. If you look at the make of these countries they tend to suffer from overpopulation, violence, and instability. No one wants to address the big elephant in the room: how do you control the population explosion?

      The USA will build a wall across the entire border at some point, irrespective of the party in power. Given the chance, I will not be surprised if all the central Latin American’s population wants to immigrate to the USA.

  • Nitricc

    Greetings all. interesting!
    The show is on. The federal government and the TPLF thugs are on for the showdown. It is almost childish. I feel for the people of Tigray, I mean the anxiety among the ordinary people must be overwhelming. TPLF will never stop holding the people hostage. The greatest mistake for the thugs is the day they betrayed Eritrea and Eritrean people. Have they not betrayed the people of Eritrea, they Tigryans could have a breather towards Eritrea? Any one could have just cross the border just for the peace of mind. Now, the entire killil and the people of Tigray are sardine-ed between two jaws. They can’t escape to nowhere. The crime TPLF committed against the people of Tigray will go down one of the most damming. The TPLF thugs wagged the people of Tigray against all its surroundings no one left to sympathized with the people. The problem with the TPLF thugs is that they never had a plan B. When they went to war with Eritrea, they never stooped and think what if we lose the war. When the deported Eritrean from Ethiopia robing them everything they owned, they never thought the effect of their acts. Even now, this fight with the federal government, they have no plan B, they are just acting completely on intuition. They have no plan A let alone plan B. Whatever happens, PMAA can’t afford to bent for the TPLF thugs. If was the Ethiopian PM; I will go dark by turning the lights off Planet hotel and go Entebbe 90 minutes on the thugs. The good thing is all are in one. Problem solved.

    • Teodros Alem

      Selam Nitricc
      How was Japan? I mean u keep saying tplf betrayed eritrea, tplf betrayed eritrea ? What is that mean? u know tplf is not eritrea party, right? So is that mean tplf don’t let eritrea to be part of looting ? Or u think tplf is nothing with no interest but servant of eritrea? i mean i heard u say tplf back stabber, tplf betrayed eritrea and so on and i want to know what do u mean?

      • Nitricc

        Hi Teddy; Japan is cool as ever. I have great respect for Japanese for finding the balance between their culture and technology. Normally when technology takes off, your value, culture and work-ethic suffer if not completely lost. So, on that regard, I respect them; they kept intact. However; the food is expensive.
        When I say TPLF betrayed Eritrea is simple one. When they kick you out by robbing and mugging everything you work for from your own home and deported you, I cannot think more ultimate betrayal against anyone.

        • Teodros Alem

          Selam Nitricc
          Yes, ethiopia should follow Japanese phase but when u have a lot of “hodam” and jealous people , i think it’s impossible,
          so u talking about war and the ugliness of war, not betrayal?

          • Nitricc

            so u talking about war and the ugliness of war, not betrayal?

            War is a fight when two sides armed with guns and go at it. but when you deported women and children by robbing everything they owned, that crime as well as ultimate betrayal.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Nitricc
            Still that is called cruelty , maximum hate, to much hate. but not betrayal.
            I don’t want go with this but Do u know that a lot of ethiopians accused eplf of deporting ethiopians even before eritrea become independent country, even when there was no war between ethiopia and eritrea( 1991-98), what do u say?
            For me, coward and betrayal means the likes of “tisfia g/ab, the likes of selam keden, the likes of Sophia t/mariam and so on , those who lives in ethiopia pretend ethiopian, act like ethiopian but back stabbed ethiopia.
            The rest is war, war is all about winning and to win both side will do whatever it takes.

    • Abi

      General
      Welcome back.
      Tplf has been defeated at Mekele and elsewhere. As expected, TPLF’s permanent representatives at Awatenation have been quite lately corresponding with the ever dwindling funds allocated for the digital armies.

      • Nitricc

        TPLF’s permanent representatives at Awatenation have been quite lately corresponding with the ever dwindling funds allocated for the digital armies.

        Ras Abiy, thanks; I have not visited awate for two weeks but it was about a matter of time before the Digitalis to go down. Now the currency is changed and the whole game is changed as well for the digitalis. I don’t if this what the culture of the Tigryans is but remember the Fenkil guy? well he was booted because he was embezzling money for personal use. When theft becomes a culture then that is end of that society.
        Now let me make you the Ethiopian prime mister, you know what is going on, how would you solve it?

        • Fanti Ghana

          Selamat and welcome back Nitriccay,

          I am glad you are here for two reasons:
          1) Awate is not the same without you, at least to me, and
          2) Ras Abi has been shouting alone for couple of days and I was beginning to worry.

          • Abi

            Fantastic
            Sorry to disappoint you St Fantiness but your guesswork failed to materialize. I was absent for days.
            Unless you hear voices, which is not a good sign, you haven’t heard yours truly shouting.
            ወያኔንም ነፍስ አይማር አንተንም ብርታቱን አይንፈግህ::

          • Haile S.

            ሰላም ጀታው፡

            ወይኔ መዋረድ!
            ከርስዎ ጋ የተነጋገርን
            ምትሓተ-ኣጋንንት እኮ ተቆጠርን

            እኛ የደጃች ፋንቴ ዘመዶች በሌሉበት ለማጽናናት ኣልነበረም ያልቀባጠርነው
            ዘንድሮ የጣር ዋጋ እንዲህ ነው!

          • Abi

            መምህር
            እኛ መክረናል እንዳቅመኛ
            ለፍልፈናል እንደያዘው መጋኛ
            አልተገኘም እንጂ ሰሚ ደግ ደጉን አላሚ
            ለሁሉ የሚበጅ በጎ መንገድ ተላሚ
            መንጋው መች ሰምቶን የወያኔ ተሿሚ
            እኛ ምን ተዳችን ጉዱን ማየት ብቻ
            ድሮም አልተሳተፍን ከነሱ ከበር ቻቻ

            ተፈንቅለው ሄደው በድንጋይ ወርዋሪ
            ታንኩን አስረክበው ለድንጋይ ወርዋሪ
            ባንኩን አስረክበው ለድንጋይ ወርዋሪ
            ወያኔ ሲጠግብ ሆዱ ሲወጣጠር ይሆናል ወይ ፈሪ?
            የዘንድሮውን ጉድ ያሳይህ ፈጣሪ!
            ዋርድያ ይጠብቀን ከድጅታል ፎካሪ የወያኔ ቀባጣሪ
            መቼም የላቸውም ጨክኖ ወርዋሪ

          • Saleh Johar

            HaileS, … and Abi,
            I will pray the whole night for the Weyane to polverise and disappear, at least we can get back Abiy before he was consumed by Nitricc’s fetish. Then I will pray for Nitricc for two weeks non-stop to be remedied from the same sickness. 🙂

            Welcome both Abiy and Nitricc. If vacations do not change people, my plan for one is cancelled 🙂

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Saleh
            በአንድ እግር ቆመው እንደአቡዬ ደጉ
            በፀሎት ሲተጉ አገር ሊያረጋጉ
            ሃሳብዎ ቀና ምኞትዎ መልካም
            ፀሎትዎ ብርቱ ምድር ላይ አይቀርም

            አስራ አምስት ቀንና ሌሊት ሲፀልዩ እንደ አቡነአረጋዊ እንዳያርጉ ጥንቃቄ ያድርጉ::

          • Saleh Johar

            Abi,
            What did abune aregawi do? That one I didn’t know. Inform this guy please.

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Saleh
            ባህታዊው አቡነ አረጋዊ በአንድ እግራቸው ቆመው ቀንና ሌሊት በፆምና ፀሎት ሲተጉ ፀሎት ሰሚው አምላክ ፀሎታቸውን ሰምቶ እጎኑ አስቀምጧቸዋል:: እኛም ፅኑ አማኞች ወሩ በገባ በአስራ አራተኛው ቀን አቡዬን አክብረን እንውላለን::

            እርስዎም ጌታዬ አስራ አምስት ቀን በግንባርዎ ተደፍተው ጉልበትዎ እስኪላጥ በፀሎትዎ በርትተው እንደ አቡዬ ቢያርጉ ወሩ በገባ በአስራ አምስተኛው ቀን አቡነ ሳልዬን አክብረን እንውላለን::
            ከዚህ በላይ ተአምር ከየት ይምጣ አንቱዬ!

            ለተጨማሪ ማብራሪያ ይህ ተአምር ሲፈፀም በቦታው የነበሩት ሊቀመኳስ ኃይለን ያማክሩ:: “ሰማው” ካለ “አየሁ” ያለ ይታመናል ::

          • Haile S.

            Selam Abi, Abu Saleh et all,

            To change Abu Saleh to Abune Sal’ye (ኣቡነ ሳልዬ ዮሃር ግንዱ), Impossible! Not that he is more sinner than the angels. Au contraire, but:

            – Because Abu Saleh is NOT white. He needed to come from Rome, Byzentium, Armenia or at least Chistian-Egypt. Rare are the indigenous saints save for Abune Teklehaimanot. Even him he is confounded with the rest by getting painted as white like Abune Aregawi and others.
            Imagine! have you ever heard of an Abune Mwangelu coming from Zaire? Therefore, quasi impossible!

            – May be, a tiny chance, if Abu Saleh was the chief of Keren during Yohannes IV kingdom and had he accepted conversion to orthodoxy, kissed the cross, placed ማዕተብ on his neck and by way of converted the whole Habab, Bogos and beyond, may be. And knowing Abu Saleh, like the Moslem leader of the area including those of Senhit and Sen’afe region who refused conversion when asked by Yohannes, he would have refused.

            Therefore, no chance of Abu Saleh to become Abune Sal’ye (ኣቡነ ሳልዬ ዮሃር ግንዱ).

          • Abi

            ሊቀመኳስ
            “ማን ያርዳ የቀበረ: ማን ይመስክር የነበረ” አይደል ነገሩ!
            ሁለታችንንም ተስፋ አስቆረጥከን:)
            ደግሞ ከመቼ ጀምሮ ነው ዓፄ ዮሐንስ የሰው ፈቃድ የጠየቁት? ሳለህን ወደ ሳህለሥላሴ ቀይሮ መገላገል ነው እንጂ!!
            ይህን ግዜ የዮሐንስን ፀበል ፀዲቅ በየወሩ የሚደግሱ እሳቸው ነበሩ::
            አመለጣቸው!

            ለቅሶ ቤት ሄደው ፀልዩልን የተባሉትን ታሪክ ሰምተሃል? ፀባይህ ካማረ ይነግሩሃል:)

          • Haile S.

            ጀታው፡
            ፀባይ ነስቶን ያቃል! እስቲ ታሪኩን ያምጡት:-)

          • Abi

            መምህር
            ታሪኩንማ ከታሪክ ሰሪው ይስሙት እንጂ ሊቀመኳስ!

            መላእክትን ከሃጥአን የሚያወዳድሩ: ፀባይዎ ወደር የሌለው የሲኦል ምልምል መሆንዎ ምስክር አያሻም!

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selamat Hailat,

            That was funny. I have been a little bust the last few days and I was only able to skim through recent comments for few minutes at a time. It so happens that every time I look, there is Abi!

          • Haile S.

            Selamat Fanti,

            Please read Matthew 18:20.

          • Fanti Ghana

            Sela Abisha,

            Read my reply to Professor Haile S below.

            Were you jumping up and down the moment PP cut budget to Tigray (TPLF). Tell the truth.

          • Abi

            Fantastic
            When was the last time I lied?
            When I heard the news I was elated! Are you kidding me? That is 10 Billion to be sent directly to the people bypassing the Tplf retirees.
            Tplf should get out of the way.
            Let the people live in peace.

          • Nitricc

            The Great Fantish; thanks my man. You see even trouble makers can be missed. hahahahahaha. When i am not in the US, i must use work’s computer. I am not allowed to take or use my personal computer and i can’t use work computer like the awate-sites and i tell you what those two weeks sucked. I can’t not believe how much i missed you guys and fighting with the digital-weyane-Eritrean. lol

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Fanti,

            It is good to hear from you too, not just Nitricc.
            I wish I could hear from T. Kifle about all the reasoning that went in to the process that finally got to this predicament. I would have liked to hear his thoughts about the future steps.

            We are where we are and I hope all those who profess peace, human rights, justice and all the rest push for resolving the problem without going in to cheer leading for blood.
            Awatistas themselves change their alliances and allegiance in a matter of weeks, did you notice that. It probably will switch again in a matter of months.

            A long time ago in response to someone I made a statement of a facetious nature that …..if Tigray and Tigrinya embrace each other the Amhara and the Muslim Eritreans will form an opposition. Our alliances seem transactional, doesn’t it.

            Mr. K.H

  • Consolation

    Hello Semere,

    I tried to read the review and was so put off by this bizarre sentence at the outset that I abandoned the effort.

    No doubt, he is very cosmopolitan, urbane and sauve, but beneath that veneer of sophistication is also that quintessentially Tigrayan character of modesty and politeness. I have always liked Tigrayans; in fact, I have never met a Tigrayan I didn’t like, and Mohammed Alamin Nurhussien was no exception.

    By meet, I suppose Semere means meet in person. But we live in an age where university students are taking courses online without meeting in person their professors.

    In that sense, Thanks to youtube, I have met many Tigrayans, like Meles Zenawi, Sium Mesfin, Gebru Asrat and many many others. Thanks to social media, Tigrayans who have expelled 90,000 Eritreans out Ethiopia and claimed to have done the right thing, Tigrayans who vowed break our backs, Tigrayans who declared without batting an eye that Badme was awarded to Ethiopia. Tigrayans who back-stab, lie, loot abound. “Urbane, modest, quintessential character of modesty” are adjectives I have never ever heard or read being applied to Tigrayans. Crude, back-stabbing, liars, looters, are the more common adjectives that describe them. In fact, the revelations coming out of Ethiopia about how the TPLF and its Tigrayan supporters systematically looted Ethiopia over 27 years makes me doubt that Semere’s veracity.

  • Consolation

    Hello All,

    The following is from the fb page of መንከም ተጋዳላይ who is a source in Asmara. In my book, he is a better source than Gedab News. So please moderators, don’t delete or redact.

    1 ወያነ ካብ ትሳዓር ክልተ ዓመታ ገይራ ኣላ ትማል ግን ህዝቢ ትግራይ ብወግዒ ተሳዒሩ

    2 ወያነ ናይ መወዳእታን መጥፍኢታን ካርዲ ትመዝዝ ኣላ ላዕለዎት ሓለፍቲ መንግስቲ ኢትዮጵያ ምቅንጻልን ዕግርግር ፈጢርካ ዕድመኻ ምንዋሕ

    3 ህዝብን መንግስትን ኤርትራ ኣብ ዝሓለፈ ቃልሲ 20 ዓመት ጎባልል ኮይኖም ድሕሪ ምውጽኦም ቀለስቲ ቀርኒ ኣፍሪቃ ሙዃኖም ኣሜሪካ ብወግዒ ተኣሚና

    4 ቀዳማይ ሱጉምቲ ሰሚዕና ኣለና እቲ ካላኣይ ሱጉምቲ ድማ ገበነኛታት ካብ ዘለዉዎ ኣሪኻ ናብ ፍርዲ ምቅራብ ኣብ ቀረባ ግዜ ክጅምርእዩ

    5 ነብሲ ወከፍ ሓላፍን ነበርን ጃንዳ ወያነ ዘለዎ ሃብቲ ከመዝግብ እዩ ነዚ ምስ ዘይገብሩ ብሙሉኤን ትካላት
    ኤፈርት ናብ ህዝቢ ትግራይ ክሰጋገራ እየን ዘለወን ሃብቲ ድማ ከመዝግባ እየን ብሙሉኡ ገንዘበን ካብ ቁጽጽር ወጻኢ ብሄራዊ ባንክ ኢትዮጵያ ዝጸንሐ ድማ ወይ ክውረስ እዩ ወይ ክሓርር እዩ

    6 ሓይልታት ጸጥታን ፈደራል ፖሊስን ድማ ማዓልታዊ ስርሖም ኣብዘን ዝቅጽላ ማዓልታት ብወግዒ ክጅምሩ እዮም

    7 ነቲ ዝመዝእ መሰጋገሪ መንግስቲ ትግራይ ድማ ባይታ ኣጣጢሖሙሉ ክጸንሑ እዮም

    8 እቶም ሓይልታት ጸጥጣን ፖሊስን ምስ ምምሕዳራት ወረዳን ቀበሌን ጥቡቅ ርክብ ብምምስራት ህዝቢ ኣገልግሎት ከምዝረክብ ክገብሩ እዮም

    9 ጃንዳ ብወግዒ ክትፈልጢ ሰፈርኪ ቃሊቲ እዩ እቶም ዘይዋሓጠልኩም ጉሰሙዋ

    10 ኣብ መወዳእታ game over ዕላማኣ ሃሪማ ክትፋኖ ኣብ ደንደስ ትርከብ

    11 ሓለንጊ ሰውራ ነዊሕ እዩ ክንብል ከለና ትም ኢልና ንስለ ዘረባ ኣይኮናን ትርጉም ኣለዎ

    • Sultan

      Conso:
      FYI :
      This post of yours is a Follow Up Note to what I posted as a “ Gossip”, which are FACYS on the ground!
      “ Further Details will follow”, is what the narrator promised us.

      • Consolation

        Hi Sultan,

        Fortunately, this time the moderators have not acted in a similar way. What gave them the excuse to delete your post is you characterization of it as “gossip”. My view is that we should not dismiss easily what is coming out of Eritrea. Moreover, what is the point of trying to suppress it when, with a couple of clicks, one can read it in fb.

  • Abi

    Hello all
    Anybody bored?
    John Di Domenico released a new parody. As usual, he nailed it. Check him out at u-tube.

  • Abi

    Hello hello hello…
    Where is Ayte Samuel, weyane special envoy at Awate, to fill us with the current situation in Tigray? The federal government stopped funding the Tigray Kingdom. It doesn’t recognize the Tigray Kingdom any longer.
    Those awatista who proudly expressed your unwavering support for the Tplf thugs in their illegal election should help us understand the current situation. I’m hoping to get some insider information on this issue.
    Thanks.

    • Haile S.

      Selam Abi,

      Where have you been?

      The forum was quite since the weekend as if waiting for the first gunshot. Glad it didn’t happen. Fortunately, today Semere TH graced us with interesting leaflets and his own well cuisine-ed salad. Some of us the Sheep who have been ruminating were able to nibble some fresh green.

      Sultan’s-Deer is enjoying the lush vegetation without fearing the Tigers who appear to be on strategic withdrawal in order to sharpen their claws. Curiously, this Deer is acting as a Tiger and chasing Berhe’s Dik-Dik. Even the quasi-extinct Mahmoud’s Gazelle is back. Well, we will see the force of its horns.
      I thought Abi’s Gureza followed the strategic withdrawal to get firsthand information from the tree-top. Well, here you are! Welcome back.

      • Abi

        መምህር
        Thanks for welcoming me to the animals kingdom.
        I was at the barber fixing my Gureza fur. Some of us like to look sharp!

        ሚዳቆው ድክ ድኩን ሲያሳድደው
        እንዳይገላግለው ወዴት ጠፋ ሳላው?
        ምነው ችላ አልከው ወጠጤውን ፍየል
        ብቻውን ሲያወራ ከግንድ ሲታገል
        ስሙን አሳምሮ በንጉሳችን ገድል

    • Selam Abi,

      Tplf was not expecting that such a day of reckoning would ever come. They thought they would avoid it by barking when they knew very well that they couldn’t bite. Whenever getachew reda was full with a lot of tchat and vodka, that was his mission, barking. “This, that, and everything” the federal government does means war, with bloodshot eyes, and he expected the federal government to surrender.
      I never expected that the fed. gov. would play such a clever game, which would incapacitate tplf without a bullet being shot.
      It’s said that tplf is divided into three. There are those who want to fight, others who want to negotiate and a third group. They are scared. The getachew assefa group is said to follow the way of pol out.
      Selam Abi,

      Tplf was not expecting that such a day of reckoning would ever come. They thought they would avoid it by barking when they knew very well that they couldn’t bite. Whenever getachew reda was full with a lot of tchat and vodka, that was his mission, barking. “This, that, and everything” the federal government does means war, with bloodshot eyes, and he expected the federal government to surrender.
      I never expected that the fed. gov. would play such a clever game, which would incapacitate tplf without a bullet being shot.
      It’s said that tplf is divided into three. There are those who want to fight, others who want to negotiate and a third group. They are scared. The getachew assefa group is said to follow the way of political assassinations, sabotage, etc..
      How many tplf members are going to lose their salaries, free government houses and other facilities, remains to be seen. That will be when the regional government of tigray (tplf) will be overwhelmed with complaints and the dSelam Abi,

      Tplf was not expecting that such a day of reckoning would ever come. They thought they would avoid it by barking when they knew very well that they couldn’t bite. Whenever getachew reda was full with a lot of tchat and vodka, that was his mission, barking. “This, that, and everything” the federal government does means war, with bloodshot eyes, and he expected the federal government to surrender.
      I never expected that the fed. gov. would play such a clever game, which would incapacitate tplf without a bullet being shot.
      It’s said that tplf is divided into three. There are those who want to fight, others who want to negotiate and a third group. They are scared. The getachew assefa group is said to follow the way of political assassinations, sabotage, etc..
      How many tplf members are going to lose their salaries, free government houses and other facilities, remains to be seen. That will be when the regional government of tigray (tplf) will be overwhelmed with complaints and the daggers are going to come out.
      This is a good example of the saying “ተልባ ቢንጫጫ ባንድ ሙቀጫ፣”. The message is written on the wall, my friend. It looks like the beginning of the end of tplf has come at last. That is why digital woyane has already abandoned the sinking ship.

      aggers are going to comeSelam Abi,

      Tplf was not expecting that such a day of reckoning would ever come. They thought they would avoid it by barking when they knew very well that they couldn’t bite. Whenever getachew reda was full with a lot of tchat and vodka, that was his mission, barking. “This, that, and everything” the federal government does means war, with bloodshot eyes, and he expected the federal government to surrender.
      I never expected that the fed. gov. would play such a clever game, which would incapacitate tplf without a bullet being shot.
      It’s said that tplf is divided into three. There are those who want to fight, others who want to negotiate and a third group. They are scared. The getachew assefa group is said to follow the way of political assassinations, sabotage, etc..
      How many tplf members are going to lose their salaries, free government houses and other facilities, remains to be seen. That will be when the regional government of tigray (tplf) will be overwhelmed with complaints and the daggers are going to come out.
      This is a good example of the saying “ተልባ ቢንጫጫ ባንድ ሙቀጫ፣”.
      The message is written on the wall, my friend. It looks like the beginning of the end of tplf has come at last. That is why digital woyane has already abandoned the sinking ship.

      • Abi

        Hello Horizon
        ታገል ሰይፉ ምን አለ መሰለህ
        ” ያ ዶሮዬ ጮኸ መንጋቱን ነገረኝ
        በዛሬ ቀን ላርደው ቀጠሮ ነበረኝ”

        I like to hear from the people who sent their heartfelt congratulations to show their unwavering solidarity to the Tplf thugs upon their impressive election . ከሳልህ ጆሃር እስከ አማኑኤል ሕድራት ( ከሊቅ እስከደቂቅ) የእንኳን ደስስስስስስስስስ አላችሁ መልዕክት ለህገወጦቹ ስብስቦች መላካቸውን መርሳት የለብንም:: ህገወጦችንና ህገወጥነትን መደገፍና ማራመድ በተራው ህዝብ መቀለድ ነው::

        • Haile S.

          ሰላም ኣባ ትልቁ፡

          ህወሓት ኣያምንም በእኩልነት
          ወይ ማልቀስ ነው በተጨኳኝነት
          ወይ መግዛት ነው በበላይነት
          መሓል-ቢስ፡ የዘመነ መሳፍንት ኣምባገነንነት
          ወንድም፡ ወዳጅ፡ ኣገር ማንበርከክ በሟችዋ ጀብዱነት

          TPLF is a sinner who wants to be accepted as an absolute righteous. It is sad to see it keeping the Tigray people in limbo.

          • Abi

            መምህር
            ጥጋብን አለመቻል የብልግናም የድንቁርናም መገለጫ ነው::
            TPLF is on a life support.
            PMAA is dealing directly with the people bypassing the dying TPLF.
            Visionary leader !?!?!?!?
            እንዴት ተቀለደ አንተዬ!
            “Without Tplf at the helm Ethiopia will be disintegrated” ብለውም ያስፈራሩን አልጠፉም::
            አንዳንዱ እንዴት ደፋር ነው?
            በስመአብ!

          • Haile S.

            ሰላም ጀታው፡

            እንኳን ከ Dictatorship of the Woyanetariat ተገላገሉ!

          • Abi

            የቐንየለይ ሊቀመኳስ

    • Kaddis

      Selam Abi –
      Well we are waiting for PP to release the data officially how much money goes to Tigray and the other way around. Just get us the official data first and will decide who loses and gains. The only money the federal gov get from the ferenjis – that comes already broken down into regions.
      In a related note .. are we on the same page now Aby is following his mentor Isu? see this fairly reasonable insider info below…see the point? get your money 5000 Naqfa at a time? .too bad Aby never did any proper media interview with a serious outlet ..unless you take Seifu on Ebs seriously ..

      የኢትዮጵያ ብሔራዊ ባንክ ትላንት መስከረም 27፣ 2013 ለሁሉም ባንኮችና አነስተኛ የብድርና ቁጠባ ተቋማት በላከው ደብዳቤ ማንኛውም ግለሰብ በቀን ውስጥ ከባንክም ማውጣት የሚችለው ጥሬ ገንዘብ በ50 ሺሕ ብር እንዲገደብ ማዘዙ ተሰምቷል፡፡ ዋዜማ ሬድዮ አገኘሁት ያለውን በባንኩ የገንዘብ ተቋማት ዘርፍ ምክትል ገዥ አቶ ሰለሞን ደስታ ተፈርሞ የወጣ ደብዳቤ ጠቅሶ እንደዘገበው መመሪያው የተሻሻለው በቅርብ የተደረገውን የብር ኖት ለውጥ ስኬታማ ለማድረግ መሆኑ ተነግሯል፡፡

      • Abi

        Selam Kaddis
        እንዴት ከርመዋል ጌታዉ
        First of all, I NEVER watch Seifu. I truly believe he is stupid and ጭልጥ ያለ ገገማ!
        If አቢቹ learned a thing or two from ኢሱዬ regarding controlling the illegal activities, all I say is የቐንየለይ ወዲ አፎም!
        መጪውን ደግሞ አብረን እንማራለን::

      • Teodros Alem

        kasheger
        Everybody knows all the medias, pro or pretending opposition don’t tell u any true and real news, like the entire tigrai is attacked by locusts for 2 years on the row, so don’t believe what they have to say, ethiopia medias r organized to confuse people by fake news, so “wazema” operated by x etv member, by isreal citizen “felasha” alemnh is not different.

      • Consolation

        Selam Kadis,

        Limiting withdrawals is not an Esu innovation. Throughout the world, it is the norm for banks to limit the amount that a client may withdraw per day. Unlimited withdrawals usually abet corruption, money laundering and other criminal activities. So Abiy is just bringing sanity to Ethiopia’s banking system.

        • Kaddis

          Selam Consolation –
          we are talking about a country with no legal base to sell and buy something online,…the lowest ATM per capita and just 23 banks in the whole of Somali region ( probably twice the size of Eritrea )
          …nobody needs lecture on e-commerce, you can buy a car with bitcoin in Rwanda etc now …but we know when one tries to crash and shrink an economy aiming total control …first know his enablers: the gulf and Isu …do you think they aim to see a strong Ethiopia?

          • Abi

            Hello Kaddis
            Last time I checked it was Tplf running the banks for 27 years. If there is any entity responsible for the country lagging behind in the banking system, it should only be the Tplf corrupt thugs.
            Blaming አቢቹ or ወዲ አፎም gets you nowhere.

            ከሰላምታ ጋር

          • Kaddis

            ሰላም አቢ
            Nobody defended tplf here, when are you going to asses the actions of Abiy in its own merit? without going pre 2018? enacting አዋጅ after አዋጅ like derg from banning 1.5 million home deposit two month ago to now 50,000 only withdrawal has nothing to do with woyane.
            Tell me how አንድ የበሬ ነጋዴ አንድ በሬ 20,000 ብር በሚሸጥበት አገር አንድ isuzu ሞልቶ የሚመጣው ፣ by transferring to an individual farmers account? Is it the right time to complicate things while covid and instability crashed the economy? have you read any independent economist assessment? Its just a political decision, a clueless one, to appease those who thinks tplf lose more on this and to starve the economy for total control Isu style
            Comparing woyané , which promised to build 2000 kilometre of railroad and almost delivered in a reasonable delay , with this childish PP le tekeberew ye Awate jemma aymetenim

          • David Samson

            Selam Kaddis,
            “the lowest ATM per capita ”
            Spare a thought for those who live in a country where the figure is zero. Any positive figure will do.

          • Consolation
      • Brhan

        Hello Kadis,
        Look to the big picture. Abiy has become a dictator. That is the great lesson from the dictator of Eritrea.

        • Sultan

          Berhan:
          A good Dictatorship is what Africa needs.
          Ethiopia needs a strong dictator with tight security until the dust fades away!

          • Brhan

            Sultan,
            You sound like D. Trump!

        • abdu

          Salam Brhan
          If he manage to get rid off TPLF the sworn enemy of Eritrea and Eritreans why do we Eritreans care.
          thanks

          • Brhan

            Merhaba Abdu,
            You mean we love our dictator. Is it Haram for us and Halal for them?

          • abdu

            salam Brhan
            Are you ready to forgive Issayas and HGDEF ?
            thanks

          • Brhan

            Salamat Abdu,
            Sorry for the delay….you seem to have a case agaist HGDEF.
            Well, it is done like this prosecute, the accused can defend ( a lawyer will be allowed) and the judge will say the verdict.

          • abdu

            Salam Brhan
            Is there any Eritrean who doesn’t have a case against HGDEF?
            what you suggest is fair. As for TPLF let them get what they deserve. so far the Aby government is giving chance in court like bereket simon , kinfe , Johar etc. and for the remaining will not be different as long as they surrender peacefully. But if Aby get rid off the organization it shouldn’t Eritreans problem.
            thanks

    • Samuel

      Selam Abi,
      I hope all is well with you.
      First of all your statement is wrong “The federal government stopped funding the Tigray Kingdom.”, you seem to assume funding/budgeting is some kind of electric utility that can be turned on and off whenever you want. It’s not what you think, pre-1991 Ethiopia has long gone for good, please adjust to it. Another advice, you have to distinguish between “media consumption” narrative and actual happenings on the ground. Just FYI, “Will stop” and “stopped” are two different things, what HoF said is they “will stop/suspend”, that is called “media consumption” narrative, deep down he knows it well he can’t implement it.

      First things first, you have to read/ask how revenue collection and budget allocation works in Ethiopia, then we can discuss based on those facts. Just FYI, neither the PM office nor the HoF has authority to suspend the budget allocated to regional governments, NONE. They can try to suspend/hold special federal funds that are collected from donors, loans, aids or grants in the name of all Ethiopia people and Ethiopia (from foreign countries or organizations). Even that has many consequences, at the end, politically it will hurt the federal government more than it benefits them.

      Note that the money in which the federal government distributes to regional governments in the form of budget is collected from each regional states, thus the regional governments(Tigray in this case) can withhold the money if they suspect the central government will misuse the collected revenue. Thus, the central government doesn’t have authority on that. Just FYI, Addis Ababa and Tigray collects more taxes compare to other states by population size, generally Addis Ababa and Tigray give to federal government more than they get. To add on what Kaddis alluded below, let them release how much Tigray contributes to federal government, and then we can talk who will lose and how much.

      I am assuming you have never been to Ethiopia since 1991 (or Derg Era), my advice to you is, you need to update your old mindset to today’s Ethiopia. The era of ” ትግራይ ጠመኔ እንኳን መግዛት/ማምረት ኣትችልም” has long gone. Just as FYI.

      Regarding “Federal government to work with local(Woreda and Zones) administrations bypassing Tigray government” bla bla. What’s surprising is, you seem to miss some common sense. How is the illegal group in 4Kilo going to work with lower administration of Tigray by bypassing the Regional government? Did it ever cross your mind how could that be applied? First of all Ethiopia is a federal state, meaning there is devolution of power. It was consciously designed the central government can’t have direct relationship with local governments, thus the central government has no business in local authorities, literally NONE.

      Abi, let me tell you one thing, when you hear something like this at least you have to challenge or demand certain evidence to it, otherwise it will be the usual lie.
      My two cents to you and others who has similar mindset like yours is that, try to have a common sense, try to be honest to yourself and have a sensible analysis. It’s ok to propagate some level of propaganda but at least it should be sensible. In Today’s Ethiopia, there is no way the federal government can work with local administration bypassing the state government.

      Generally, even though it looks breaking news for you, however there is nothing breaking, what’s happening is what was expected. Adem Farah, the speaker of the House of Federation (HoF), don’t have other option but obey what the illegal group in 4Kilo told him to do. The speaker of the federation and the speaker of house representative have bills to pay, they have family to feed, thus, they have to do whatever they are told to do until some changes comes to rescue them. They don’t have the option to say NO, at least temporarily.

      Check the following great analysis from Dr. Solomon Barnabas
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUEWPzOllbc

      If you are going to argue, please do so based on facts and statistical measures, otherwise it will be like the PFDJ sympathizers barking day and night TPLF this TPLF that…. Even their own car accident they will blame TPLF…. If rain stops raining for months they will tell you TPLF has something to do with it… No Election==>TPLF, Economy==>TPLF, Democracy==>TPLF, Justice==>TPLF.
      In one sentence they will tell you two contradicting narratives — “Game-Over” narrative and “TPLF is the number one enemy” narrative. Does it make sense? Nah, it doesn’t.

      Last but not least, do I have to remind you again PMAA’s and his cliques strategy? Don’t forget the “convince or confuse” strategy. Let me ask you about the “budget suspending narrative”, are you convinced or confused?

      Thanks,

      • Selam Samuel,

        The tax revenue from the state of tigray is about 3bn birr. The state budget was 7bn, now raised to about 10bn, as was said by the ethiopian PM last time. The amount collected in tigray doesn’t even cover 50% of the state’s budget, let alone tigray being one of the two biggest contributors by population size. Therefore, tigray receives more than the amount it gives to the national budget.

        It seems that you have forgotten that there is not a regional government in tigray that is recognized by the federal government. Tplf doesn’t recognize the federal government and the central government doesn’t recognize the tplf government. Under this situation, the central government will work with the local administrations bypassing the tplf. There will be a body which accepts their demands, studies it, releases the budget, and it will follow if the money has been put into good use or not. The only irrelevant entity in this affair will be tplf.

        • Samuel

          Selam Horizon,
          You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts. Let them apply it and then we will see what will happen next. It’s easier to talk than to walk the talk. Check with Ethiopian Ministry of Revenues then come back with facts.

          Thanks,

          • Selam Samuel,
            You said, “Let them apply it and then we will see what will happen next.”.
            What are you going to do, if i may ask? Don’t you think that that is just one of the many tplf bravados (zerafs) that signify nothing? Which one of the following is going to happen? Is tplf going to invade the rest of Ethiopia to collect taxes, or bring back the looted money to run the state, or secede and expose the people of tigray to hardship – recognized by no one as an independent country, unable to sustain itself, and still worse unable to receive international aid as a sovereign country other than humanitarian aid?
            Nothing of the things told by tplf are real and possible. They are empty words. No one is intimidated and no one is worried due to the war mongering by tplf or by the rhetoric of independence. Tplf hopes for what might happen as a side effect and not for what it can do itself. There is no chance that Ethiopia will disintegrate as tplf hopes. Her enemies are either sidelined or behind bars.
            Time works for Ethiopia and against tplf. It is going to be a rude awakening for tplf when at last it finds out that it is not the people of tigray nor are the people tplf. They will dump it, and look for their own interests rather than sacrifice themselves for the insatiable appetite for a continuous dictatorial rule by the old and dilapidated tplf officials.

          • Selam Samuel,

            This is from the Reporter. This is the bill for the regional states out of the budget for the Ethiopian Fiscal Year 2010 EC, which was about 320bn birr in total.
            “Based on HoF’s formulation, which takes into consideration the revenue potential and expenditure needs of the regional states, Oromia is entitled to 39.85 billion birr out of 117.3 billion subsidy fund followed by the Amhara and Southern regional states each looking to cash a check for 24.98 and 23.25 billion birr, respectively, in the coming fiscal year. Somali Regional State is the next biggest earner on the subsidy budget taking home 11.54 billion birr followed by Tigray securing 6.97 billion birr, Afar 3.49 billion, Benishangul-Gumuz 2.11 billion, Addis Ababa 1.64 billion, Gambella 1.54 billion, Dire Dawa 1.02 billion and Harari 878.74 million birr.

            Apart from the subsidy grant, Oromia is set to bag 2.41 billion birr from the support for SDGs fund while Ahmara gets 1.51 billion, South 1.41, Somali 698 million, Tigray 422.1 million and so on.”.

            Of course, you shouldn’t and you are not supposed to believe the above facts, because you have your own purposeful narrative. That is your mission. In addition, you can’t support what you said, that tigray contributes to the national budget more than it receives.

          • Samuel

            Selam Horizon,
            What you have listed is subsidy grant given to each states, the above statistics is correct, no issue on that. My question to you was how much does each state contribute to the federal government every year? It is true that Tigray has received 6.9 billion in 2010 EC, however how much did Tigray contribute to federal government in that year? Last year for example considering the Covid-19 economic shutdown and other factors, Tigray has collected/contributed more than 6.7 billion to the federal government. I am referring those taxes that are collected only to the federal government. According to Dr. Tekeste Abraham former Ministry of Finance and Economic Development, Tigray is expected to collect/raise more than 8 billion to the federal government this year (2013 EC).

            FYI, Tax to GDP ratio is very small in Ethiopia (11%), if you increase that to 20% you can easily generate a good amount of Revenue. For comparison — Kenya has Tax to GDP ratio about 18%, Zimbabwe about 24%, France about 46%, Norway about 39%, Canada about 31%, Sweden about 50%. Note that it’s not that because our taxation is high but we don’t enforce and collect according the law.

            My point is, if we are able to enforce and collect taxes fully we can cover our budget without borrowing (I am speaking generally in Ethiopia). Note that about 80% to 85% of annual budget is financed from domestic sources collected from Tax and Non-Tax revenue, about 15% to 20% is from external sources in the form of grant, loan and aid.

            https://www.unicef.org/ethiopia/media/2181/file/Analysis%20of%20the%202019_20%20Federal%20Budget%20Proclamation%20.pdf

            Thanks,

          • Selam Sanuel,

            Why don’t you tell us the tax revenue of the state of tigray so that we end this discussion? The budget subsidy for tigray is 10.4bn birr this fiscal year. Why should it be the reason for war if you don’t get it, as long as you produce more tax revenue than the amount you get from the federal government? Tigray should be able to survive without the above budget support. But, you need this money for food subsidies, for example, otherwise prices could be exorbitant, and many things would be out of reach for the people.

            Budget subsidy takes into consideration the revenue potential and expenditure needs of the regional states, as the HoF says. That is the key point. It shows that tigray produces less revenue than the somali state, as we can see.

            Do you think that tplf is a group that gives more than it takes back? It was known by all that tplf was transferring budget, either to the state of tigray or into their own pockets from the so-called subordinate states, with the justification that they were not able to use their budgets fully.

            Remember, ethiopia is a country where a large percentage of its people live on less than $2, even less than $1 a day. Yes, tax collection is not perfect, nevertheless, it will not solve the economic problems of tigray, for example, if you implement aggressive taxation. It will be counter-intuitive in a poor country like ethiopia.

            Just tell us how much tigray produces in tax revenues supported by facts, and let’s end the discussion. This may as well mean that tigray is independent from ethiopia economically, and why therefore stay with ethiopia. The so-called independent tigray depends on the economy and not on politics.

      • Abi

        Samiti
        እዋይ አንታ ሳሚና የደደቢት ጅግና
        ጨዋታ በእጥፍ ጨምረሃልና!
        ተጫዋች መሆንህን እኔ መች አውቄ
        ድንገት ሳላስበው አመለጠኝ ሳቄ
        ተንፈራፈርኩልህ እመሬት ወድቄ
        እንዲህ ያለ ጨዋታ ለማንም አይበጅ
        እንዳያራርቅህ ከዘመድ ወዳጅ
        እኔስ እችላለሁ መቼስ የኔው ጉድ ነህ
        ሆራይዘን መጣብህ በል ተደበቅ ፈጥነህ::

        You asked me if I’m convinced or confused?
        I tell you Samiti I’m totally convinced that you are confused.

        • Samuel

          Selam Abi,
          Probably the reason why I was confused is because I couldn’t believe you will be convinced by Shimels Abdisa that easily. Welcome to ሽመልስ አብዲሳ convinced list. Who is next? Horizon? Well, he was first on the convinced list, I am not sure he will bring the confused card later on.

          Thanks,

          • Abi

            Samiti
            Thanks for the vote of confidence.
            ሳሚቲ እንደው በሞቴ ንገረኝ እንደው አፈር ስሆንልህ ስንት የጠመኔ ፋብሪካ ከፍታችሁ ነው የፌደራል መንግሥቱን የምትደጉሙት? እንደው በደፈናው ህዝቡ አመድ ለብሷል አትለኝም!

            እባክህ ያን የጠፋውን በግ ካገኘኸው እፊቱ ላይ ያለውን አመድ አራግፈህ ጉንጮቹን ሳምልኝ:: ወንድምህ ናፍቋል በልልኝ::

      • Consolation

        Selam Samuel,

        One of the silliest claims I have heard is that Tigray sends more in the form of federal taxes than it receives back. What Tigrayans don’t understand is that the Ethiopian government receives from various external donors up to 5 billions dollars in direct budget support or loans.

        Abiy has made it clear that he will deal directly with the lower jurisdictions bypassing the illegitimate TPLF government. This is a brilliant move because it puts the TPLF in a very tight spot. If they refuse the offer, then Tigrayans will know where to put the blame. If they accept it, well, they have accepted their irrelevance. It is called “damned if you do, and damned if you don’t”

        Tigrayans have been pumping themselves with the fake narrative that they are an exceptional people. It is time now for a rude awakening. How inept and disorganized they are is playing out before the world as they grapple with a massive locust invasion. What could be more pathetic than to see the President of Mekele university chasing locusts with her jacket.

        • Abi

          Consolation
          If you spend your looted money on whisky and arming your local militia, you have got nothing left for other purposes.

          ወያኔ እንደ ድፎ ዳቦ ከላይና ከታች እሳት እየነደደበት ነው::
          Please go easy on Samiti. He feels lonely with his colleagues laid off.

  • Mahmud Saleh

    Semere Tesfamicael Habtemariam
    As usual, I have enjoyed reading your book review article. It’s as clear as ማይ ፍልፍል; and as sweet as ማይ ዘምዘም ( As you know, ማይ ዘምዘም has no special taste, but it carries a spiritual sweetener, I guess, so it tastes better). Ala kulu Hal; well written. There is sophistication I could only dream to have a small slice of, in the way you select words and thread them through, to compose a clear message the way you have been able to do. The rhythmic pace of your writing makes the long article easily readable. Your article is full of quotable chunks but for now I want to take the following.

    “There is a strong temptation in both Eritrea and Ethiopia for Muslims to mirror the ugly legacy of religious ethnonationalism. It is wrong, short-sighted and has to be resisted. There is a better alternative where all communities of faith can live together and thrive. It is called secularism, but it has to come as a result of negotiation and not confrontation.”

    Both sides, the Muslim and Christian radicals, need to understand that honest discussions are to the interest of both communities. Eritrea is home to both the church and the mosque. They have lived side by side for centuries. Any belligerent defensive moves are not constructive. National unity anchors on the recognition that all religious sects, indeed all citizens, are stakeholders. The structure and composition of their government should reflect their national aspiration. which is building a nation that respects the uniqueness of all its citizens.

    Thanks.

    • Haile S.

      ሰላም ማሕሙድ፡

      ከም ኣብ ደብሪ ተዓቚቡ ዝኸረመ ሽፍታ፡ ብደጀ-ሰላም ቤተክርስትያንን መስጊድን ኣቢልካ እንቋዕ ደበኽ በልካ!

      ዓዲ ጸምጸም ኮይና ኣላ። በዓል ደብተራ፡ ፕሮፈሶራ፡ ደጃዝማች፡ ግራዝማች ኣበይ ከምዝኸዱ እንድዒ! ስግኣት የብልካን። ንዓ ተቐመጥ።

      • Mahmud Saleh

        ሰላም ሃይላት
        ኣይፍለጥን፡ ኣካይዳ ድሙ ክገብራ…ጥንቅቅ ኢልካ ምስጓም እዩ…ሃሃ..

  • Semere Tesfai

    Selam Mokhsi

    1. – “The problem in Eritrea, the so-called Abbyssinian periphery, is not as bad as the Christian center in Ethiopia, but the degree of badness should not be used as an excuse. An Eritrean Muslim friend of mine, Derie Mohammed Debas, the son of martyred EPLF father and sibling to a martyred EPLF brother and an EPLF Tegadalit, who made it alive and now works for the Eritrean government, had to delay his urgent travel to Europe because no one at the Immigration Office could read his Muslim marriage certificate, Aqeda, written in Arabic. There were five windows open and most of them were not busy. They told him nonchalantly to return with a notarized Tigrinya translation. I was not sure if I were appalled by their stupidity or callousness, but it showed me that we have a systemic exclusion in Eritrea.”

    Well, Mokhsi: I’m not appalled by the stupidity and callousness or your comment; but, every time, it shows that the Eritrean opposition is rot from the head down – with no hope for cure. But, I might be wrong. Who knows; you might prove me wrong. So, to find out, let me ask you few questions to see how good you defend your comment.

    So, tell me:

    A. – Had your Muslim friend’s marriage certificate, Aqeda, been written in French, Chinese (Mandarin), German, Russian or Italian, and been told by the Eritrean immigration employees to return (come back) with a notarized Tigrigna translation, would you’ve been appalled by the stupidity and callousness of the Eritrean immigration employees, and concluded that there is a systemic (Muslim) exclusion in Eritrea? Why/why not?

    B. – Had your Muslim friend’s marriage certificate, Aqeda, been written in Arabic, and been told by Somali, Iranian, Turkish, Pakistani, Indonesian immigration employees, to come back with a notarized Somali, Iranian, Turkish, Pakistani, Indonesian language, would you’ve been appalled by the stupidity and callousness of these countries immigration employees and concluded that there is systemic Muslim exclusion in Somalia, Iran, Turkey, Pakistan, Indonesia? Why/why not?

    C. – Had your friend’s Marriage certificate, Aqeda, been written in Persian language and was told by Somali, Saudi, Turkish, Pakistani, Indonesian immigration employees, to come back with a notarized Somali, Saudi, Turkish, Pakistani, Indonesian language, would you’ve been appalled by the stupidity and callousness of these countries immigration employees and concluded that there is systemic Muslim exclusion in those countries? Why/Why not?

    2. – In the paragraph I quote you above, this is what you were implying/insinuating – of course falsely

    A. – In Eritrea, denying the Arabic language the status of Co-National language is tantamount to Muslim exclusion in Eritrea.

    B. – Eritrean Muslims are a lot closer to Arabic language history and culture than Eritrean Christians. Therefore, to make Eritrean Muslims happy, Arabic language must be Eritrea’s Co-National language

    C. – Arabic must be Eritrea’s Co-National language in order Eritrean Muslims, to be equal to their Christian counterpart

    3. – Again, all the above claims are wrong. And let me tell you why:

    (a). – National language (Co-National language) has nothing to do with faith; none whatsoever.

    (b). – Arabic is a tool of communication (language) that predates the Islamic faith itself. And for millennia, all the Abrahamic faiths have used the Arabic language to communicate within themselves and with their neighbors – for religious and non-religious purposes. Meaning: no faith can truly claim the Arabic language as its own – and its own only.

    (c). – Out of almost 2 billion Muslims, only about 425 million Muslims (the Arabic speaking Nations) use Arabic language as their National Language – about 20%

    (d). – In Eritrea, the main objective of the Islamization of the Arabic language and the call for Arabic language to be Eritrea’s Co-National language is:

    (1) to divide Eritreans along religious lines – us vs them – Muslims vs Christians

    (2) to rally all Eritrean Muslims to gang-up against ethnic Tigrigna

    (3) to defeat ethnic Tigrigna, to Empower Eritrean Muslims, and then to De-Tigrignanize Eritrea.

    4. – The, 50% of the Eritrean population wants Arabic language to be Eritrea’s Co-National language is a myth if not outright lie. I you don’t believe me, let’s agree to have referendum on it.

    5. – Eritrea as a poor nation, can’t afford to have two national languages with equal status – to run its government and all its governmental services- it just can’t. Arabic and Tigrigna were never equal when ELF dominated the ERitrean Field, they are not equal under the PFDJ government, and for million reasons, they will never be equal in the future.

    6. – The prudent thing to do is, use Arabic and Tigrigna as lingua franca, and make English a National language – all – in order our kids to be competitive in modern education

    Semere Tesfai

    • Ismail AA

      Selam Semere Tesfai,
      If I were Semere T.H. I wouldn’t waste a minute to respond to what you wrote because you are deliberately out to confuse the unsuspecting and uninformed as a person committed to selling the policies of the regime, irrespective of you know well.

    • Berhe Y

      Hi Semere,

      The sad irony in the story is, the entire Eritrean immigration office, the isn’t a single Eritrean who us capable of reading Arabic.

      He is Eritrean in his own country, travelling with official document recognized by the state, that he needs to translate and notarize it.

      He is not Chinese travelling using Chinese document, he is not Persian travelling Persians document.

      Do you even understand what you are writing about.

      Did you confuse Eritrea with England? What is that you having?

      Berhe

      • sara

        selam ato berhe..
        first , i am one of many who support the use of Arabic language in eritrra,
        second, at the immigration office there are people who write and speak arabic…not that they are arabs but eritreans.
        third- marriage certificates are not requested at Airports for any one to leave or enter the country…. no one asked me … and never heard any one asked marriage certificate coming from or going to eritrea.
        the rest is the usual thing about eritreans here in this forum, the never ending squabbling about an issue that is an already accepted norm (arabic/tigrnya) in eritrea.

        • Berhe Y

          Hi sara,

          I have no reason doubt what was written by Semere H. in his article

          “An Eritrean Muslim friend of mine, Derie Mohammed Debas, had to delay his urgent travel to Europe because no one at the Immigration Office could read his Muslim marriage certificate, Aqeda, written in Arabic. There were five windows open and most of them were not busy. They told him nonchalantly to return with a notarized Tigrinya translation. ”

          What do you think of this?

          I know there are Eritreans who can read and write Arabic. And that’s why I find the above appalling that they had to request him to translate and notarized an official document recognized by the same government.

          For what ever reason he needed the document and why he was I asked, I don’t know, and it doesn’t matter.

          Berhe

          • Abi

            Berhe hawey
            Fun fact
            During the King time a married couple used only one passport.
            በርሄ በየነ እና ባለቤቱ ወ/ሮ —-

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            So you are telling me during the “backward feudal king time” married women were not allowed to travel alone with out the companionship of her husband:).

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            በርሃ 1 አቢ 0
            Halftime

          • sara

            selam ato berhe,
            my comment to you was just to tell you what i know from my experience, not to the author of the article and its contents. actually the article is about an Ethiopian memoire and i do not know much about ethiopia social issues that i could say this or that.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Sara,

            In this particular case, my comment was with regards to an Eritrean and just experience at the Eritrean immigration.

            Having said that, no human being is able to experience and witness everything to know the facts. That’s why humanity relays on the writing and telling others. Reading Semere review give us a glimpse of what like to be an Ethiopian Muslim from Adwa, and reading the book will give us deeper understanding as per authors personal experiences.

            Berhe

          • Brhan

            Sara, Ya Zola Kefik? Dayreen kalam jemeel minik
            So , I know that you are good hearted and always try to calm us but my dear sister in politics it is totaly different. And your expreience which is rosy picture most of the time , can not be generalized to all. Every one has different expriences. For people like you it seems things were not and are going fine , but fro Semere HT, friend and others were and are not. I can share with you many anecdotes. But that is not important. What is important is where the book, where is the law , where is the regulations that govern for example how services to citizens are done. Can you share with me if you hav a document?

          • sara

            selamat, Akhuna Brhan,
            ShuNu AlKalam Da? Al Qawaneen Fil Balad Melyan Bil Habel.
            Al MeshKla Fi TenFizu……
            just about documents…. there are, but i don’t have the links////examples are… civil, penal, civil procedures and penal procedures codes .
            i am sure if you put a little effort you may find it some where in book stores at home…. but if you are living outside the country… specially in usa … i once heard it is available in the library of congress…and since you have the technology access you may easily have it.
            here i am talking about laws….documents because you asked… to share documents only.

          • Brhan

            Hello Sara,
            You keep misunderstanding me. Take the big picture. It is not about me. It is about making gov’t regulations public. Do you think a farmer in Gerset or Akhrur or Shketi have access to the US congress library.
            I believe you are or were a gov’t official because your spekaing about regulations tells that you have access to them. Poor me, poor the farmer of Gerset /Akhrur / Shketi etc

          • Nitricc

            Hi Brhan the digital; why are you silent about your thugs. you change your toon. Advice, always stick with people.

          • Brhan

            Hi Nitricc,
            In Tiginya there is a word called ሕንጉጉ and in Arabic it is called بعبع and in English it is called MONSTER. So because you are trying to sleep and I have to sing you a lullaby. I can say: “Sleep baby, your MONSTER is gone”

          • Desbele

            Selam Brhan,
            A saying goes in Asmara that ‘shaebia writes its regulations/bylaws in pencil’. In addition, it is not disseminated to the public officially. You hear from a neighbor about new rule that allows you to exit the country. You run to the immigration office. You are sure your neighbor has exercised it and you want it for yourself. But the official may just reject you , stone faced, መን ኢሉካ? You dont have the written regulation to defend with. You just curse you luck sniff for another chance. Basically , most of your rights as a citizen would then fall under the mercy of individual in power. Thats why the cry for constitutional , transparent governance.
            Diaspora and well connected rich people always have their way out and they delude that with access for all. No it is not. I lived 20yrs in Eritrea to witness that.

          • Brhan

            Hi Desbele,
            Thanks for your input. I know all what you have said. I was trying people like Sara to think critically when they comment here. Sometimes I think she is telling us a fairy tales!

          • Desbele

            Hi Brhan,
            I would say its intentional not lack of critical thinking. There are people who didnt visit their motherland in 40yrs and well aware of the situation at home. The likes of Sara claim that they were in national service, or they visited home just recently and try to convince on their personal experience that all is rosy. They tramp every evidence otherwise. The good thing is intelligent , honest people dont even need physical presence to assess the situation at home.

          • sara

            selam ato brhan,
            i thought you are sensible person before i read your last comment..
            ,,,,, telling us fairy tales…

          • Brhan

            Ahlen Ya Sayida Sara…
            A good judgment is what we need: the list is so long but let us start by this: Which one is sensible to you : to say the there is freedom of speech in Eritrea or the opposite. The word sensible means to give a good judgment.

        • abdu

          salam sara
          the last four to five years yes there are immigration officers who speak, read and write Arabic but before that i have been to immigration office many times and have seen Eritreans who do not understand tigrina to get their own translators. At the Airport i have seen Sudanese who fill up the landing paper in Arabic looking passengers to translate for them. not only once but on many occasions.
          as for marriage certificate that is not needed at the airport. But if a wife has to join her husband who live abroad to get passport marriage certificate is necessary. Now here is the issue for muslims . it is in Arabic. MMHDAR(your local administration), Municipality, and immigration they don’t accept the Arabic you have to translate yourself at those official translators with their seal.

          thanks

          • Brhan

            Abdu,
            You mean the MMHDAR of Teseney speak Arabic?

          • abdu

            salam Brhan
            I guess you misunderstood me. when i said it is in Arabic. I mean the Muslims marriage certificate is in Arabic. In Asmara you have to translate yourself to tigrina to get served at MMHDAR,(kebele during derg) Municipality and Immigration
            thanks

          • Aron

            Hi Abdu,
            “Muslims marriage certificate is in Arabic.” Did you mean all Muslim marriage certificates are in Arabic or this one individual Semere H is talking about. Aron

          • abdu

            salam Aron
            All Muslims marriage certificate is in Arabic in our country Eritrea.
            if you want to register in the office of municipality (KIBRE MEZGEB) A Muslim has to bring tigrina translated. with the original Arabic.
            thanks

          • Brhan

            Salam Abdu,

            If you are / were a gov’t official where is your proof? By proof, I mean, is it a law or protocol? Is it written or oral?

            Also to help understand the issue let me help you . The Eritrean gov’t funds the office that releases marriage and divorce certificates that are conducted according to Sharia? Is not it easy for this office to provide clients in both languages? Or the staff in the office do no know Tigrinya or can’t hire the know the language?

            Last but not least , you are talking only about Asmara, as if it is the whole Eritrea? What about the rest of Eritrea? Nakfa for example or Assab?

          • abdu

            salam Brhan
            The issue is for those who claim Arabic is used in government office(specially in Asmara). one example was marriage certificate. As i have said above that is not true.

            I don’t know your intention(i apologize). I am/was not government official and I was/ am NOT a member of any Eritrean political organizations. If it is a law or not I guess it is clear for every Eritrean.

            Why do the office of Sharia(DAREL IFTAE). has to issue in our example Marriage Certificate in both Arabic and Tigrina?

            As for the staff( in Asmara) their knowledge of tigrina if they are not better they are not less than anyone who claim knows tigrina.

            your last sentence I don’t have much knowledge in Nakfa or Assab. if they accept Arabic that is good. but the issue in this discussion is for those who claim Arabic is accepted in Eritrea every where which is not.

            thanks

          • sara

            selam abdu…. ok… ok… i see what you mean…. but one thing also you have to know is its not only about translation arabic/tigrnya etc
            all documents whether in arabic or tignya you submit for any official requirements have to be endorsed or certified by a notary that they are genuine not fake… so either way…any document ..from church or mosque has to go not for translation but for certification by a recognized authority that this is not fake etc.
            this applies to birth certificates as well….
            wo..selam AleyKum.

          • abdu

            Salam Sara
            I am sure you know translation and authentication why do we need it and how it work.
            to explain more
            let us use marriage certificate(MC) as example

            1. Masjid and church documents have registration numbers. if you need government service within Eritrea starting from MMHDAR, Municipality or Immigration office if they need to verify it is a phone call to masjid or church.
            here if it is in Arabic you have to translate to Tigrina( in Asmara)

            2. if MC is needed by foreign Embassy we have to provide authenticated translation with the original Arabic or Tigrina
            this should be the only reason for notary.
            thanks
            wasalamAlykum

    • Haile S.

      Selam Semere Tesfay,

      Allow me to say few words on No 6 of your comment to your ሞኽሲ.

      If english is placed as a national language with tigrigna and arabic as ligua franca, I think tigrigna will be the looser. Arabic has enough defenders and developers. Tigrigna has only Eritrea and northern Ethiopia, a country whose official federal language is amharic.
      English and Arabic are monuments with deep roots that no one can push an Angstrom away. Tigrigna roots are on the shallow surface, a push by english will knock it down. Equality in ‘in ligua franca’ with arabic is not going to save it from getting left behind. On the contrary, both will knock it down easily conjointly. Tigrigna needs more than everyday talk to keep it growing and thriving.

      There is more chance for tigrigna to grow if we keep and apply the choice made by our እምዋተ ኣቦዋት and build on that duality without killing time in endless discussions and referendums.

      • David Samson

        Selam Haile,

        Even the owners of Arabic langauge are slowly and quietly damping it. Have you noticed that The Emirates launched into space, but did not bother using or naming any of the gadget an Arabic name. Tigrigna is a native language, though have minority numbers, but have been spoken and used for over a millennia.

        Once the hypocrites Arab elites hatched their difference with the Jewish state, they will endorse western values and English language as well. So why should we bother learning it?

        • Berhe Y

          Hi David,

          I think learning your own language adds to the overall development of human brain, study after study have proven it.

          And I don’t understand with the obsession of knowing English language, in itself would make someone smart / develop?

          A lot of people in the Caribbean speak English. A lot of countries in Africa speak English.

          In my opinion this is what I would like:

          1) Study / Arabic and English (upto grade 6)
          While learning English from grade 3.

          2) from grade 7 until high school in English

          3) at the same time study Arabic / Tigrinya until end of high school and graduate being bilingual.

          So in theory when a student graduate from high school knows at least 3 languages.

          Just having English at the elementary level, what advantage can it possibly have if the students would not speak it.

          It will not make the students any smarter than those who would learn in their native languages. None what so ever.

          Getting smart comes later in life and what you will learn and what resources you have (like English textbooks etc).

          You know how weird it would be living in your country and you don’t know how to read and write in your own language? Like for example, you are not able to read the bible or read children books.

          Berhe

          • NewDawn

            Selam Berhe, learning a language isnt easy, no need to waste time and resources learning 3 languages. Better to intensely learn English than waste time learning Arabic.

            Even pakistan doesnt care about arabic neither iran. This arabic non-sense is a waste of time.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi NewDawn,

            Language is more that economic benefit, it’s big part of culture and identify. When one is getting married, or baptized or having a prayer (fithat) etc do you suppose we do it in English as well.

            If knowing English language is the main main reason a society gets to advance, they why are Japan, Korea, Germany, France, Russia are advanced as well. By your reasoning, all the Nobel laureate in science, mathematics, would all have come from English speaking countries.

            Let’s say you want to learn piano? Do you think it matters if you learn it in English or Russian. You will get to learn Latin, Italian because they pioneered it and there is no way around it.

            If someone is capable at learning different languages, they will excel at what ever chosen studies of interests.

            If you live in the US go to every campus and visit the electrical and computer engineering departments. You will find a lot of Egyptians and Iranians, who studied in their native languages.

            Anyway advanced studies is reserved to very selected few anyway (in western less than 15%) and the rest of the world less than 1%.

            If in Eritrea we teach everyone English, and do not improve our quality of education, they best we all can hope us becoming baggage handlers of western tourists, yes sir and wait for tips.

            Berhe

          • Brhan

            Hello Berhe,

            The anecdote that Semere H, indicated reflects a lot, but above all injustice. In the US, blacks were not allowed to use the front seat in a bus , just because of the color of the skin. Semere H, friend was not served just because his divorce paper was in Arabic. The Eritrean gov’t funds the office that releases the divorce paper, so one is confused of how this regime works?

            Your analysis, from my understanding, relates to having official languages in Eritrea. Had Arabic was one of the official languages , of Eritrea, we would not have that divorce paper incident or story.

            But we do not have official languages. The Eritrean constitution draft even is obscure when it comes to this issue. Open any constitution of any country, you will find, in a clear cut , what, the official language/s is or are.

            For the sake of our discussion, let us, see, three countries: Canada, Singapore and Ethiopia, as the issue of their offical language/s relates to the disscussion of the official language/s in Eritrea.

            Canada: English and French. While in Quebec, French is the official language , in the rest of Canada provinces, it is English.
            New Brunswick is dual. So, to obtain job, at federal level, you have to be bilingual and at provincial level, according, to its offical language/s. So, in Canda a divorce document written in French, doesn’t need to be translated, into English.

            In Singapore, 4 official languages, English, Mandarin, Tamil and Malay and if a document is written in non-English, interpreters are required. The Eritrean divorce paper incident would have been solved if the staff that saw it included an Arabic speaking co-worker. In the 1990s, when I travelled to Eritrea, I used to fill, the boarding forms provided by Asmara Airport in either of the two languages, Arabic and Tigrinya . I think the Eritrean government offices lacked integrity. Some office worked one way and the others, another way. I do not know if these have changed now.

            My last example our southern neighbour Ethiopia.
            not what it is the official language is Amharic, but most importantly is how did the Ethiopian reached to it. The Ethiopian people were giving their say. We know a lot of stories during that time, English, was suggested and if I am not mistaken Afan Oromo + Amharic. But I believe the Ethiopian people, represented by their representatives were pragmatic and chose Amharic.

            So it is not what I or you or he or she says what matters, it is what the Eritrean people say, that matters. Give the Eritrean people their say, but, first, give them the right to amend/ redraft/ draft/ their constitution so that the can close the issue of official languages forever and save us for this cycle. And this to happen dictatorship must end and freedom of speech, democracy, multi party systme must prevail in Eritrea

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Berhan,

            I agree with most of what you are saying..but I don’t understand what you do you mean when you said

            So it is not what I or you or he or she says what matters, it is what the Eritrean people say, that matters. Give the Eritrean people their say, but, first, give them the right to amend/ redraft/ draft/ their constitution.

            What exactly do you mean the Eritrean people to have a say, through what means, referendum, through national assembly…through election etc…
            Berhe

          • Brhan

            Hi Berhe
            You got my point. If I had prephrased it better like what you did , it would not have created the misunderstanding.
            To be more clear , the means that you mentioned are the only means that can close the cycle. I was indeeded speaking about the means as the best tools. The issue has been discussed for long time but, I observed, solutions, in this case, the means, had been hardly mentioned. I hope I clarified my point.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Brhan,

            Suppose we have referendum for example, and we vote (55%) to be Tigriana the only official language, then what do we do?

            And then someone comes up with the idea and say, look if we are not able to live in our own country the way we wanted to and wish for….then it may be better for us to separate and go our own way…and let those of use who wanted to use Arabic as official language go our own way. Then what do we do…

            You see, the downward spiral that we will end up going….some rights are basic rights and they should not be dictated by anyone…votes, referendum have point when they have a universal interests for the majority of the people and do not interfere in other people’s writes.

            Our founding fathers agreed to build and create a nation by making Arabic and Tigrina as an official languages. We do not need to revisit, this issue that’s a done deal. It will enrich us, it will help us become better citizens and it will open many doors for us to trade, to travel to work with all our immediate neighbors. I will even suggest that, Amharic would be available as an option to learn the language so we can have better communications in the future.

            I was speaking with my German neighbor and he told me, he speaks, French and English. He told me in Germany we say knowing another language is “money in your pocket”. It will only benefit you.

            Berhe

          • Brhan

            Hello Berhe,
            I share the values that you presented above. I am just asking about the “how” in another words I am looking at th means, mechanics and methods. The issue has politcal aspect so it requires political

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Brhan,

            Thank you for your reply and it’s a valid point that you bring. How? I was not old enough to know and I have not read in details but it’s important to reflect in our past and to learn from history what really happened.

            What we used during the federation time after our people were in charge of our government? At least during the first term of Tedla Uqbit term. I ask this because it may help us to learn what happened and it may solve to the “how” point.

            I live in a bi-lingual country so this is really not an issue. The argument I hear from people is, it is cost a lot and we have no resources etc. For example, some people advocated if we make English our only language, it will be better and cheaper. But the fact is, it’s will not be cheaper at all. Where are the people who know how to teach in English to come from. Beside the cost aspects of it, I think sometime, price is not relevant.

            So to go back to your question on “how”. Do we argue if we need to celebrate Mesqel or not. Do we argue if we need to celebrate “Eid”. No, in both cases. So the Eritrean language (national language) is a natural phenomenon of the people and we should just accept it. As aChristian and Tigrina language speaker, I have no business to argue what my fellow Muslim want. I can’t prescribe to him, what he really needs, he knows what he needs. Giving me examples, of Pakisthan or Afganistan is not really a solution. There is a way of life an Eritrean Muslim lives his life, yiqerE, yiseghid, and conducts his daily lives according to his belief. I have to respect that.

            As a Christian I have my way of living my life. Suppose 60% of the Eritrean people voted to have Arabic as only national language what would the I feel. It’s really that simple. Am I simply to accept this?

            For example, my father on his daily walk he will meet people. They will ask him him
            “Good morning – Haderka”. His reply is “Egziabher yimesghen”. An Eritrean Muslim if you ask him the same question he will “AlHam Dulililah”. Both mean the same if I am not mistaken.

            There is no way the Eritrean Muslim to switch and say “egizieabher yimesghen” and the same for the Eritrean Christian. It’s the way of like in Eritrea.

            So who are these young people (like Isayas Afeworkin in their early 20) to to the mountains and all the sudden become experts in how the Eritrean society suppose to live and act. Just remember when you were 21 years old. What life experience do you really have to know better. It’s really a joke that our faith is dictated by this young Idiots (not so young now) and deciding our future.

            Here is my proposal.
            – Schools Mon – Thursday (but make sure extended to cover equal hours)
            – Government work – Mon / Thurs (make sure extended to cover normal work hours 36 hrs of work and 4 hours break). So in total 10 hours per done.

            Other business:
            – Mon – Sat – Take Sunday off if they wish if they want to take Sunday off ( Christian)
            – Sat – Thu – Take Friday off if they wish if they want to take Friday off (Muslim).

            All government public workers (except the essential workers such as hospitals, ambulance, fire, police – work on shift as accommodation allows it).

            All students and teachers will have 4 days of school and 3 day long weekends.

            The weekends people spend time relaxing and enjoying the quality and the life it offers. Like going to the beach in Ghirgusum will be the ultimate plans. Essentially every Eritrean will have two homes, in the city where they live and in the coast where they can. And split life between the two places and enjoy living to the maximum.

            But, but, we will have all the technology that we need, such as safe and fast, transportation system (train), fast internet in all the country…

            We will speak Arabic, Tigrian, English and Amharic and we will be the destination of the whole region and the world.

            Then Eritrea will be heaven on earth…as it will be the envy of the world.

            Berhe

        • Haile S.

          Selam David,

          If Emirates didn’t use arabic name for its launches, then it missed an opportunity. Imagine Eritrea launching one without using tigringa and arabic, it would miss an opportunity to cement its language policy. Eritrea is bound in its language policy by its foundation after liberation from colonization and BMAdministration. Undoing this policy risk in undoing the unity of the country. I don’t think an individual will be forced to learn a language.

    • Aron

      Hi Semere,
      Wow, I could not agree more and could not have said it better. Lately I find myself agreeing with you more and more. Religion is just that personal as it should be. It must not be confused with nationality, language or citizenship. Aron.

  • Ismail AA

    Selam Semere T.H. and the rest,

    It is a kind of ritual for me to first express sincere gratitude to brothers and sisters who from time to time grace this forum with products of their intellectual pursuits in various forms. Semere is one of those brothers who generously shares with us knowledge he garnered from his personal endeavors. For this, thus, my gratitude is unequivocal.

    Having written that, this review is abundantly rich on several levels. It encompasses essential matters ranging from morality pertaining to justice and fairness and history and the heavy baggage it bequeathes to succeeding generations.

    As I imagine, after reading the review, the book as a story of an Ethiopian brother, is a crystal clear reflection of the burden of history I just mentioned that involved the life and injustices part of the inhabitants (citizens) of a former empire-state had endured due to relationship of convenience monarchs and the religious establishment in Abyssinia had forged since 1270 to justify the legitimacy of one another at the expense of other faiths and races (Abysinians vs others like Oromos). The crown and the church could sustain power and influence only when they projected menace that could be sold to ordinary subjects. The mechanism of sustenance had been a mixture of sujugation by force on the part of the monarch in order to thwart an imagine enemy and legalization of the monarchy by the clergy. The latter was rationalised by the burden the history of the wars of Imam Ahmed Gura (Gragn in popular Ethiopic) had bequeathed.

    So, it is important to take good note of the message the reviewer (Semere) wanted to serve. Works as this one under review become worthy of attention by succeeding generation for their enlightening value. And, as a reader of the review, I learnt that Semere wanted us to comprehend that generations in both Eritrea and Ethiopia do have two options to establish safe ground for social harmony and political order. Either to recognize that the burdensome legacy and correct in peaceful way within the framework of morality and fairness as he suggested, or waiting for history to cleanse itself through forceful interference. The difference between the two is not really hard to imagine.

    Thank Semere.

    • Teodros Alem

      ismeal
      1, calling oromos as none-abyssinian and leveling the sons of “derbush” , who has been fighting Abyssinia through out history as Abyssinian is funny and identity crisis.
      and needs to be corrected in order to find a true solution. U can’t correct historical injustice by lying .
      2, what ever historical injustice in ethiopia is ethiopian problem, not u or aman h or eritrea or any foreigners problem. Ahmed gragn or aste Tewodros or dr Mohammed issues r ethiopia’s issues , I’m sure ethiopia and ethiopians(Muslims or Christian) will solve it out, it is none of u sons of “derbushe” , enemy of Abyssinia problem. U people r eritrrans, u people r foreigners for ethiopia.

  • Brhan

    Hello Semere,
    Thank you for the review. It is superb. I enjoyed reading it and I appreciate your work. Specifically I liked your stand to speak against injustice.That is truth which leads to peace, reconcilation and mutual respect. Keep up the good work!