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Former Eritrean officials Pledge Support For Berhane Abrehe

Five former Eritrean officials issued a joint statement in support of Berhane Abrehe, the former minister of finance who is openly challenging Isaias Afwerki to step down.

The officials who live in exile declared their unequivocal support for the “the call made to depose Isaias from his position and hand power over to the people.” The statement added, “we call on all our coworkers and colleagues from the armed struggle era to rise up in support of the Berhane Abrehe’s call.”

Last Sunday the two books that were authored by Berhane Abrehe were launched in Washington, DC. An audio recording by Berhane distributed on the Internet preceded the launch of his books.

The recording brought to rest a brief confused that ensued after Gedab News published the news about the books. A few people had cast doubts on the news claiming that un-named individuals wrote the book and used Berhane’s name. Berhane’s friends handled the printing and they are now distributing it.

In the audio clip, Berhane asked Isaias Afwerki to call for a meeting of the “national assembly” which didn’t meet for nearly two decades to the extent that many Eritreans consider it non- existent. In addition, Berhane warns Isaias that, “in the meeting, the assembly will ask you to step down and it will elect your replacement.” He also challenged Isaias to a face-to-face public debate.

The ruling party is known to take swift steps and drastic measures to punish anyone who defies the decisions of Isaias Afwerki or challenges him. An observer said, “the regime certainly does not tolerate the actions of Berhane, but it is a mystery that so far it has not taken measures against him.” Many of the former minister’s friends and colleagues are concerned about his safety because he is still living in Eritrea.

The signatories of the support statement are 1) Adhanom Gebremarian, former ambassador to Sweden, 2) Andeberhan Weldegiorgis, former ambassador to Belgium, 3) Mesfin Hagos, former zonal governor, 4) Mohammed Berhan Blatta, former mayor of Adi-Kieh, and 6) Muhyiddin Shengeb, former chairman of the National Union of Eritrean Youth and Students (NUEYS).

The names of two former assembly members who live in exile are missing from the statement: 1) Haile Menkerios, former ambassador to the United Nations, and 2) Hiwet Zemicael, whose official capacity was unknown.

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  • Fanti Ghana

    Selam Abisha,

    So, we already know “The Enemy” : TPLF, we also got plenty of warning from “an insider” : Queen Hayat her self no less, we still go ahead and slaughter one another anyway. Who did you think is the guilty party here?

    I will give you a hint for old times sake: it starts with ሊበሏት ያ…

  • Berhe Y

    Hi Abi,

    I think it’s good idea to step back and look things through. I don’t think accusing the TPLF without full evidence is helpful.

    I think the police reports are good, but they should also get scrutinized deeply. The other day I saw someone who posted on Facebook refuting the evidence the police gave for self sucide if the engineer, apparently the car was locked while the engine was running, there for he can be the only person who can do it.

    I am pleasantly surprised how TPLF, at least those currently in charge have handled and being so accommodating in moving to peaceful reaporoachment with Eritrea, specially considering the chest pumping and insults coming from the PFDJ side.

    I think, Ethiopia at peace is to the benefit of TPLF and the Tigray people, so I highly doubt they have a hand in this. Even if they do, I don’t think the people would respond to such degree.

    I think the government needs to take all measures to keep peace at this time.

    For example, I think the demonstrations needs to be suspended. What are they demanding now. It can create more problems, specially if there are suspects who are going to do harm, what better way to execute their plans under the cover of the demonstrations.

    Berhe

    • Nitricc

      Hi Berhe; you are such hypocrite. You have no problem to accuse PIA 700 million dollar in Swiss but when it comes to your master TPLF thugs, you need evidence? moreover; you said
      ” I am pleasantly surprised how TPLF, at least those currently in charge have handled and being so accommodating in moving to peaceful reaporoachment with Eritrea, specially considering the chest pumping and insults coming from the PFDJ side.”
      Can I ask what choice your TPLF thugs have other than kneeling down and asking PIA for forgiveness. They lost, genies.

      • Berhe Y

        Hi Nitricc,

        And now you have become advocate for Ethiopian people peace? Really…weren’t the one always advocating that Ethiopia will disintegrate.

        The 700 is a fact, it’s money in Swiss account that belongs to an Eritrean. The Eritrean government (IA) have the mandate to investigate who this money belongs to? Because it opened in the name of an Eritrean, using an Eritrean document (passport).

        Blaming the TPLF for the conflict without evidence will lead to further violence and that will create more violence. But who knows, may be that’s what you wanted.

        Berhe

        • Nitricc

          Hi Berhe; now you want PIA to investigate about the money in Swiss? really? it is not PIA’s freaking business. Sometimes I wonder how you think. I don’t have to an Ethiopian to wish and want peace for the Ethiopians, it takes only to be human. What happened in Brayu this week is not easy and if you have any decency, wish peace to the people of Ethiopia. Be human instead of supporting broad day light hyenas.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Blink,

            Yes it is. Are you crazy. Why shouldn’t the ERITREAN government doesn’t want to know who there Eritreans are stashing away US dollars in millions of dollars the country does not have?

            Is it legitimate money? Is it drug money? Is it arms deal? Etc.

            Investigate? That’s it’s job.

            Why are the US, Canada, and money others going after their citizens for hiding the money, to avoid paying taxes?

            If you are a US citizen and your name is in the list, by now FBI have been to your door.

            But if you are IA, and you own the same account…, you keep quite.

            Berhe

    • Abi

      Hawna Berhe
      I shake my head when I read something out of this world like this one you said that it is impossible to lock the car door while the engine is running? Eway anta Berhe hawey! I think it is one of your slow days.
      One thing I agree with you is that the government should start taking appropriate actions on the spoilers of the peace process.
      Berhe, instead of suspending the demonstrations why don’t you learn some courage from the protesters and apply it in Asmara? Now that you have a great opportunity to do it with the arrest of the former minister. What are you waiting? G 20? It has already become G16 with the current arrest.

      • Berhe Y

        Hi Abi,

        I guess you didn’t read the police report.

        Yes I agree that we should apply that in Asmara.

        Can you tell what they are protesting now?

        I just can’t get over the fact that, 5 people dead, 10 people dead, 20 people killed. As if they are flies..,,,

        Protest is a right but not a privilege. And the government have to be prudent to protect the loss of human life.

        Berhe

        • Fanti Ghana

          Selamat Berhe Y,

          That police report was the most embarrassing post-investigation report ever. The car was locked, his finger print was on the gun, engine was running, and he told his family “something that sounded like a goodbye.”

          The fact that Engineer Simegnew instructed his kids to “study hard” before he left for work is being used as an evidence for a suicide!

          The decision was based on these ludicrous not even good enough to be circumstantial evidences, and that makes one wonder what our officials think of their people.

          It would have been more dignified had they claimed that the investigation is inconclusive instead of embarrassing all of us with their stupidity.

          • Nitricc

            Your Fitness: I agree that was stupid how the police did the whole thing. However; they have no choice but dodge the bullet. If they say he was assassinated, the country will be up for civil war. So, I Kind of understand why they say that was suicide. The goy was clearly gunned down. How is possible you shoot your self in the head and your hat stays put?

          • Amde

            Wow Fanti,

            This must be the strongest language I have heard from you.

            I agree with you a hundred percent.

            ምስኪን ሰው።

            Amde

  • Nitricc

    Ras Abi: The animals who were caught committing this horrible crime in Brayu had 8 million birr in their bans account. Any guess where that money came from? Ask Hayat the Eritrean women/Man whatever she/he will tell you. No ordinary Ethiopian have 8 million birr and go out kill people. I said this before TPLF is a nightmare unless you Ethiopians get your acts and fight like Eritreans did, you are no match for evil TPLF. Did you notice as soon as TPLF is out of power the whole east Africa become peace. TPLF is simply cancer.

  • Hayat Adem

    Hi Ras Abi,
    You mean the “fall curse!”? It was purely an educated guess.
    Externalization has never never helped.
    Get the criminals who are looting and killing behind bars.
    Hold the government responsible whenever it fails to protect citizens.
    Condemn actions and actors who are violating the law of the land. Help your country do the transition chaos-free.
    By now know that TPLF are no more your problems.
    Start doing what you were hoping to do when TPLF is no more and when the new leadership is in charge.
    One of the unfortunate consequences of all those lies and misrepresentation is that political honesty has become the first victim in Ethiopia and that will cost the country for a long time to come.

  • Hayat Adem

    Ras Abi,
    1) the work of TPLF thugs..?
    2) … Hayats and other hidden rats in cages..?
    What is going, Ras? Is the too-much-meating compromising your brain?

  • haileTG

    Selam Alex,

    Call it unfortunate circumstances, but I like to believe I have fair understanding of the real Eritrea. I.e. not the diaspora media Eritrea, not the ganta mekhete Eritrea, not the fb photoshoppers Eritrea, not the paltalk Eritrea, not the Eritrea of those with with an ax of some sort to grind, but the real real and very real Eritrea. The Eritrea where only $$ speaks and politics is a fool’s play thing.

    In the above context, let me state to you clearly that the Eritrean army generals (not lower ranking and privates), are the true face of the brutal dictatorship in Eritrea. All the ministers and PFDJ cadres are innocent people, delusional chatter boxes. No thing more and nothing less. The generals are the day time robbers, the jailers and tortures, thieves and brutal psychopaths. Check their houses, their businesses, their mistresses and their children’s lavish lifestyles. They have their own jails, they can place you on holding place for 10 years with no questions answered, they can eliminate you and do anything in between. They can also have you walk free from any responsibility even if you break any law. Every agelglot knows this perfectly well. Let us not underestimate the damage they have done to the country and future generations of Eritrea. That is why they are irrelevant when it comes to those times when everybody wonders whatever is happening to the country. Actually they are the one’s holding the gun on the head of the citizens.

    I have seen enough things to be certain that the Eritrean generals are nothing more than ‘my belly first’. I understand when people in the diaspora struggle trying to make sense of things. They try to rationalize but nothing is rational, they try to put it in logical context, but there is no logic there, it is pure dog eat dog with them.

    On the other hand the ministers and other mouthpieces are decent but delusional people. Some are even deep in in “patriotic fervor’. However, all are psychologically compromised.

    • saay7

      Selamat Hailat:

      The Commission of Inquiry report were actually LESS DAMNING than they would have been IF they had been given access to Eritrea. As it is, they say, because of that, and because the mandate they were given was for such a long period (1991-present), and it encompassed such a huge population, “Where the Commission was unable to corroborate or independently verify information about patterns of alleged human rights violations, such information HAS NOT BEEN INCLUDED in the present report.”

      Moreover, the standard of proof they used was “reasonable grounds to believe”: the same one that is used by ALL commissions of inquiry and the same standard of proof used by ICC before it issues an arrest warrant.

      Moreover, the “nameless, faceless” is not accurate: the Commission interviewed a representative sample from the 44,000 submissions–including the pro-PFDJ Eritreans who were meketed into writing them and then wrote nonsense that has nothing to do with the mandate of CoI (why did the UN sanction us? )

      This Commission of Inquiry report, the testimony of Eritreans, should be the standard for any truth-and-reconciliation process we follow. Otherwise, the culture of impunity will continue from one bad actor to another.

      Btw, hailat, the Commission blamed “military officers” which certainly includes MORE than generals, but I definitely agree with you that the Ministers and civil servants are innocent.

      saay

      • haileTG

        Hi saay,

        The military leaders are unlawful, they feel no obligation to a constitution to uphold to. They are fine with the current set up of swindling the country out of existence. If they don’t demand to have a constitution to uphold to, that tells us enough about their crooked nature, they uphold a dictator who upholds their criminal enterprise. It is the highest honor to any high ranking military officer to declare that they serve the constitution of their country. Ours are mafias and feel no sense of honor. They uphold IA and they were ready to pack up and escape the country during the third offensive. Of course, leaving the warsays to it!

        People like Gen. Oqbe are the exception of course. Recently, a friend of mine was very relieved that his illegally built home was not demolished because he purchased the part of the Tiesa lot he built on from a Colonel. They assisted him to get the paperwork and him and the officer who sold it to him are happy.

        The ministers and civil servants have no meaningful power, may be some minor illegality like when W/ro Askalu was sometimes engaged in exchanging $ on the black market. And some bribe related activities. The diaspora PFDJista are the sorry lots. Some are so patriotic that it is down right funny the way they go about it. Bless their hearts 🙂

  • Semere Tesfai

    Selam Hope Nebsy

    1. – “What is your take on the Confederation.”

    Regional integration is all good if you have competent leaders that could make it happen. Of course there is a price you pay – through natural process, small ethnics and small nations will willingly COMPROMISE/LOSE their sovereignty, cultures, languages, identities….. and their political independence in EXCHANGE for safety, economic prosperity, and long term stability. That is given.

    And the next question that comes to mind is: are we Eritreans getting the best deal in this shuttle diplomacy? And I’m positively sure we are. And I’m not being optimistic simply because I trust the PFDJ regime, but because of the mechanics, the players, and the alignments of interests on this current diplomatic maneuvers that has the potential to shape our region for the foreseeable future in a positive way. Let me explain in a little more detail:

    Eritrea is a BUFFER STATE lying between two potentially hostile and at times irreconcilable cultures and ideologies – the Abyssinian and Arabian cultures and ideologies. The ideal policy for a state like Eritrea is to keep its neutrality at all time. But neutrality is an impossible option for a small week poor nation like Eritrea. The regional (Ethiopia and the Arabs) and global powers won’t let it be a neutral state even if Eritrea wants to. That is the reality we’ve to accept.

    To make long story short: this deal satisfies (balances the interest of) all players and stakeholders on our region and beyond – the Western world, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Egypt, Saudi and some more. Well then, how bad of a deal could that be.

    But I’m also pessimistic about these integration thing. Meaning: let’s face it, it is not going to last. Western interests are always better served from Balkanization, and not from consolidation and integration of third world countries. Meaning, somehow someway sometime this treaty is not going to stand.

    2. – “What about the Abreham Afeweeki thing the Expert Conspiracy Theorists have championed lately?”

    I don’t know hope; I really don’t.
    But I want to believe Isaias Afewerki won’t pass the baton to his son. The reason: (a) Isaias Afewerki has lived all his life with Tegadalay mentality and culture; and I don’t see why he would change today (b) Isaias Afewerki has consistently shielded his family from public views, visible government positions, and government responsibilities his entire leading/governing years; and I don’t see why he would do it today (c) Isaias Afewerki has accomplished a lot in his life – an accomplishment many world leaders would wish to have on their resume. And I don’t see why he would tarnish his legacy at the last second of the last hour of his life.

    But make no mistake: What Isaias Afewerki does or doesn’t do with regards to his succession, is not all about his wishes and desires – but also about you and me, about all the elite and party/organization bosses in the Eritrean opposition, and about all the party elite and bosses of the PFDJ regime. If we all eliminated all the reasons (threats and concerns for him and his family) there is no reason for him to go that route – it is more likely than not, neither him nor his son would want to go that route.

    And like I said many times on this website, when the inevitable happens (Isaias dies or it seriously ill) we will know IN LESS THAN A WEEK how much we Eritreans have matured and how much we’ve learned from governments of all colors and shapes around the globe.

    The day after isaias Afwerki is incapacitated due to illness/died, if the Isaias family are able to grief/take care for a week peacefully surrounded by families and friends, if Eritrean workers went to work walking through peaceful streets, if Eritrean top government officials managed to run peaceful transition of power the next day………. we’ve matured as political elite and as a nation. If we fail to do just that, well, we all failed ourselves.

    Hope: thank you for asking, thank you for engaging and thank you for all the respect.

    Semere Tesfai

  • Saleh Johar

    Hope,
    If you level an accusation, you cannot ask the accused to come up with the evidence to support your allegation. This is serious and I am asking you again to provide any evidence that supports your claim. You can’t go on accusing others irresponsibly.

    • Hope

      Selam SGJ:
      Would U please STOP for a nano-second threatening Hope?

      Hope is NOT accusing but commenting on and reoprting on he read about.

      Here is what I recall:
      -There was a title or topic here at awate.com few yrs ago about SAWA being a Rape Center,and almost every Eritrean was outraged

      -There was a heated debate on and about the same issue and topic SAWA being a Rape Center and that rape was rampant within the EPLF after a certain Tegadalit went on air at assenna and or SBS Radio about her past sexual abuse in the field

      -There was a similar hot debate and an extensive defamatory campaign against the EDF as a Rapist Insitution,where some of us got mad at HaileTG for openly declaring the EDF as a Rapist Institution and honoring the DEMHIT for destroying that same EDF and making it safely to the Sudan.
      -Now the same topic is coming up with the same campaign.

      If u r asking me to retrieve that Article or Editorial on SAWA,I don’t know how to do it,hence,I asked you to retrieve it.

      -But we were told that the major source of the COIE,the SAWA Center ” abuses and crimes”included,was the awate.com but have no “Evidence” to corroborate it with.

  • Nitricc

    HI Abi; I don’t know if you know this but TPLF assigned 5K social media warriors. Their job is to pretend to be Amhara, Oromo, even an Eritrean and dispatch hate, conflict, distrust and finally bring down the PMAA administration. How do you think people like Hayat from day one came out and dispatched fear, conflict and distrust; from day one, man. It all coordinated, the Amara and oromo better be smart and understand what is up.

  • Paulos

    Selam My Good People,

    Assenna is reporting that Birhane Abrehe is arrested. According to the report, he was taken away this morning while he was in downtown hanging out with friends.

    • Ismail AA

      Selam Dr. Paulos,

      This has to come as news to those who doubted former minister Berhane as an author of his books. To the dictator, jailing him could turn to be a straw that will break the back of the camel. This time, it might not be shunned, even by some sensible surrogates, as ገለ ገይሩ እንተዘይክውን መንግስቲ ኣይምኣሰሮን fatalistic indifference. It could be reckless miscalculation, which coupled by floating his son to succeed him may add up to seal off his fate – probably in nasty way. I recall Hosni Mubarak’s risky attempt to install his elder son on the throne. It is indeed, in the nature of dictators to mess up at the point when they realize their time to be waning. They become so greedy they go as far as putting their loved ones in real risk.

      • Haile S.

        Ismail, Paul & all,
        The arrest of BA is really depressing news. Those who are mediating the peace should also mediate and calm the ‘urge for the neck’. On IA and his son, there was a beautiful old song that says like this:

        ኣበባ ዓደይ ተፋቐሩለይ ግደይ
        ክህበኩምየ ቦኽሪ ጓለይ

        It seems IA has transformed it to this:

        ኣባጊዕ ዓደይ ተጓሳያለይ ግደይ
        ክህበክንየ ጓሳ ቦኽሪ ወደይ

      • Paulos

        Selam Kbur Haw Ismail AA,

        Not sure, I’m in fact doubtful if his daring call on Isaias is getting any traction inside Eritrea as people are excited about the free movement to and fro Ethiopia. If there was any indication at all, people would have said in protest to the very least when they were watching as he was being whisked away by the men in black.

        What is even so sad is the fact that, it is Eritrea that is losing the morale compass where normal and abnormal have lost their meaning when a father who stepped out to have a breakfast with his son can not be sure if that is his last day with his family or not.

        If you really think about it, Birhane did not write or say anything illegal. He said, Isaias is a dictator and he needs to step down. Everything he said was with in the parameters of what is considered as the crux of Free Speech. And he was taken away to the unknown when he expected to be taken away to have a debate with Isaias instead. It is just extraordinary the fact that we have become so used to abnormal. And it is 21st Century.

  • Saleh Johar

    Hi Hope,
    This time I will take you on seriously. I am hoping you will prove your outrageous statement. Kindly defend it.

    You commented: “Awate is famous for labelling SAWA as the RAPIST CAMP! ”

    Can you show me a line that confirms your assertions in all the archives of awate.com?

    It’s fine to retract your assertion and say sorry. If not, you need to prove that. Please make it clear.

  • Blink

    Dear all
    What a sad scenario , what a lose of life .The number one and may be only reason for the killings was squarely the policy of weyane Ethnic politics for 27 years none stop blaming one ethnic group against the other . This blame game has been feed by horrible politics and the activists soled this openly on the streets , internet sites for 27 years .

    How can Eritreans avoid this kind of mistakes ?
    This websites writers like Ali Salim , Amanuel hidrat and other forum participants has been selling the ethnic hate politics none stop by saying
    1. The Tigrinya are loved by PFDJ
    2. PFDJ policy benefited Tigrinya or the highlanders over the lowlanders
    3. PFDJ policy is rooted in NIHNAN Elamanan of EPLF
    4. 50% of Eritreans ( lowlanders) are hated by PFDJ
    I can mention many many quoted saying of these above.

    The above active campaign produced all the ethnic based politics in the Eritrean opposition.
    1.Afar opposition wholeheartedly rooted in the independence of afar country in Eritrea based on the notion that Tigrinya and Tigre controlled all
    2. Kunama a inter state based in Brentu
    3. Al Nahda 100% Jeberti group who squarely blame the ruling class as Tigrinya supported
    4. Bright future wholeheartedly rooted in their union Tigrinya state
    5. Agazian pushes by weyane who see other Eritreans as enemies and are spitting their venom on Muslims
    6. Completely Islamic ruling theory who see the Christians as occupiers of Eritrea
    7. Many more

    So how do the Eritrean activists see the next step in Eritrea ?

    • Berhe Y

      Hi Blink,

      Is this a way for you to divert the attention fro crown prince, and the TPLF flag landing in Cathedrale:), while they are suppose to be dead.

      Berhe

      • Blink

        Dear Berhe

        No , Not at all , there is no way that you don’t know what happened in Addis Abeba these past days and I am jus reminding these who has been propagating hate in Eritrea one ethnic group against the other . Imagine some of this form so called know it all has been pushing the hate messages towards the highlanders or the Tigrinya and what I mentioned on the above comment was just reminding them that their product will produce the killings of Tigrinya or others on the streets of Asmara or other major cities in Eritrea .

        The dictator actions are in no way to be stopped or deflected by this forum or anything. The dictator will removed by people inside Eritrea not by people from California with their tabloid websites of giossipe champion. Remember making outlandish claims against one ethnic group against the other is a crime and that has been the work of some people in this forum.

        • Berhe Y

          Hi Blink,

          Again I would say you are diverting the attention from crown prince. No body is going to revenge against Tigrinya or any other ethnic group in Eritrea.

          You know I suspected you work at the presidents office and you make it obvious with some of your posts sometimes:).

          Your tactic, change needs to come from inside means, just leave things as they are and in the mean time, let the king transfer his power to the prince.

          Weather the opposition is in California or in Sudan, they all have one event and that’s the PFDJ and his enablers.

          Berhe

          • Blink

            Dear Berhe
            It has been a known habit for you and people like you to accuse people when you got smashed against the wall of truth and your escape line is to accuse me of being in the office of the Dictator which is idiotic. I say what I see and I don’t buy gossip especially from tabloid propaganda machine. What I am telling you is a truth about accusing one ethnic against the other .

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Blink,

            Can you tell us the truth “one ethnic group accusing others”. The individuals you spoke about, made their case in the open and what they wrote is simply their opinions. They don’t represent any ethnic group or no ethnic group made them their spokes person.

            For example, Semere Tesfai made rediclous argument on behalf of Tigrinya. I am Tigrinya, he doesn’t represent me or my views. Why should me or my ethnic group be held responsible for his views?

            Why can’t you apply the same logic when it comes to the views of other individuals. Why do you blame an entire ethnic group over the comments of one or two individuals?

            I say diversion tactics because you know that your argument has no base but you bring this type of topic to distract. Now California is your favorite target.

            Berhe

          • Blink

            Dear Berhe
            I already stated all the things in number order and I have to read what Semere T said in orderly manner, what ever Semere T said or someone like Tesfatsion ( agazian guy ) said is also against the Muslims and I clearly pointed that in my comment. What I am saying is the blame game one ethnic against the other done by Eritreans will give fruits just like the Addis horror. So what I am saying is these people need to understand what they are sawing. Remember the outlandish claims made by YG and Qerenlos reaches way way up that can make you swing .

          • Semere Tesfai

            Selam Berhe Y

            “For example, Semere Tesfai made rediclous argument on behalf of ethnic Tigrinya.”

            You’re lying to yourself and to your readers with no shame. If you want to prove me wrong – which you will NEVER do, quote me and quote me right.

            It is precisely people like in mind that I leave my disqus account and the articles I wrote over the years, open for public scrutiny at all time.

            Semere Tesfai

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Semere T.

            I am sorry if I have misrepresented your views.

            It was my understanding, and I apologize if I was wrong that you said on many occasions “The Tigrina have the majority and weather you like it or not they will make the rules”. Not exactly in those words and tone but of similar attitude.

            Berhe

          • Natom Habom

            selam berhe ,
            you know you paulos , Haile ,peace ,Horizon and many other
            still hopping the union with your cursed Tigray right ? the agazian stinky think still flooding in your blood ,so you as been told by your boss her to create division among our people ,we dont know why the amhara and oromo still longing to finish the job ,but after all its our job to finish you if not we will not have peace until you worthless tplf still breath ,some say patient is gold ,we will see

    • Hameed Al-Arabi

      Salam Blink,

      This is the market where you mushroom. I think all your tactics by now is clear to all true Eritreans. Your commodities have no value in Eritrea.

      The first person who divided Eritrea into politics of ethnic is your god, don’t attempt to throw your malad to others. I think you will not be able to sell your rotten commodities in Eritrean. It is better for you to look other markets if you get any buyers. You are a sample of fake Eritrean ( ቅዳሕ ) endeavors to create tumult. You are really a crippled guy.

  • Mitiku Melesse

    Hei All.

    Who could have we been if Suez Canal was not opened?
    (united could be understood too as tow countries have same governmental views on the Red Sea international policy)
    Why the Wests have wanted by hook or crook a united Ethio-Eri?
    Why the Gulf states have wanted by hook or crook a united Ethio-Eri?
    Why the Russians have wanted by hook or crook a united Ethio-Eri?
    Can Eritrea stand neutral and defend its Red Sea interest without paying the ultimatum?

    What happens when the West turns its face against the Gulf states?

    Can Ethiopia hold the policy of ”you want port then you rent”? The economy has been growing with this policy. The growth hindered by the greedy woyane Tigray first policy. Now if Ethiopia has learnt from its mistake the opportunity for Ethiopians first is at hand.

    Is there a genuine interest in the name of one people two countries to stand for protecting the interest of Eritrea’s Red Sea for the benefits of the people accordingly?

  • Kim Hanna

    Selam Awatistas,

    The PMAA and Lema Megerssa are eloquent spokespersons of the promise of Ethiopia. It is the hope of many Ethiopians, near and far, to see Ethiopia united and at peace with all its neighbors, including Eritrea. Live and let live, so to speak.
    I myself want to believe on this promise and give the new way time to produce the results we all hoped for.
    Not that it matters but my support is conditional. It must produce visible results, at least movement and progress to the articulated goals. I am doing it, in spite of some uncomfortable events and irreconcilable personalities participation.
    I am taking a leap of faith, doubting my past observations and beliefs were perhaps unjustifiable or lacking. Times have changed and a new way to explore possibilities is a welcomed alternatives.

    When I see U.S congressmen are applauding the new road Ethiopia is taking, PIA of Eritrea is giddy with joy, King of Saudi Arabia is awarding gold medals for secret agreements, Egypt foreign minister visiting PIA days prior to the signing of the secret agreement ….I cringe in desperation.
    Emotionally, I feel like a “MUKET” sheep being led to a home on “FASIKA”. It is not easy to forget the past. These folks I mentioned do not see the future of Ethiopia the same way I do and hoped for. They have their own interest in mind and means to accomplish it.

    In all of this the one and singular unspoken factor is religion. Muslims believe that Arabic is the language Allah chose to deliver his message to humanity. If I were an Arab to be the chosen people would have a pronounced deeper meaning to my being. If I believed that God chose Amharic to speak to humanity, I would have to do my part to convince the world to listen. If I belong to the clergy I would do more.

    As I hope for better tomorrow, I keep my eyes on the RED LINES.

    Ethiopia/Eritrea “confederation” in any form is a disaster that will be imposed on both people against their will, after 30 years of bloodshed as a sort of reset button.

    Arabic being mandated to be taught in Ethiopian schools would be the result of sinister design.

    China after all it has contributed to Ethiopia’s progress, being shunned and replaced with EU, US…..rhetoric and marketing replacing deeds on the ground.

    Djibouti being sidelined because UAE were upset with them after all the heavy investment Ethiopia made in treasure and time and their reciprocity.

    Unabated civil disorder and constant jumps from crisis to crisis are all the tell tell signs that our leaders are taking us astray fraught with danger of misery and disintegration.

    I was going to conclude with a thought that is now disappeared. In any case we are at a cross road. I am holding on to faith that our people will navigate this storm to a calmer waters. God protect Ethiopia.

    Mr. K.H

    • Selam Kim Hanna,

      When you spoke of “MUKET” the picture that came to my mind was the guy, who was transporting on a bicycle in the streets of addis a ram tied to his back, on one of the days people were preparing for fasika celebration. A type of killing softly and deceitfully.

      Most probably. What we see is the result of conspiracy of the west and arab gulf states against russia, iran and turkey, who are encroaching on the horn and the red sea. Egypt is the known spoiler, carrying out its last mission of barring eritrea from approaching ethiopia. Eritrea seems to understand where her real national interest lies.

      Islam – arabic in connection to ethiopia has been tried for centuries and has failed. Most probably extreme islam that believes in the Koran and arabic for all humanity is no more entertained anymore even by the extremists, let alone by the moderate. Therefore, there should be no fear about the islamization of ethiopia today and in this century. Of course, there is no free lunch. If they are investing in ethiopia, it should not be with strings attached that could pull the country one way or the other in the future. Fortunately, ethiopia is of interest not only to arab states, but to the west and the east. China will be the engine that will move the economy and the west the political clout. No sacrifice any more for the sake of ideology of one sort or other. The name of the game is called National Interest, which ethiopians should be taught, and taught very well.

      “Ethio-Eritrean confederation” is the bye-product of ethio-eritrean rapprochement, whether we like it or not. Nobody can avoid it. Certain things are going to be irrelevant, because of their nature, and practical things that affect human life and not ideology, identity, etc, will be much more important. We shouldn’t worry about confederation, because it is beyond our power to avoid it. It is coming by itself and we would not even know it. The el dorado, the singapore, etc, have been disproved, and the reality is setting.

      Yes, ethiopia is at a cross road, nevertheless, she will follow the right course to a regional power, which scares a lot certain countries like egypt.

      • Ismail AA

        Dear Horizon and MK,

        Reading through the entries you have exchanged, I can gauge how the attitudes of each of you are in process of shaping in relation to the recent events in the region by and large and Eritrean-Ethiopian relations in particular. At the end of the day, and as experiences on the world scene demonstrated, geopolitics and the rivalries they engender are the business of powers that command outreaching economic capabilities supporting by military and diplomatic clouts.

        When we consider the current or future conditions in Ethiopia and Eritrea in the back drop of what I just stated, it becomes incumbent on us (Eritreans and Ethiopians) to worry more about the realities that could play role in shaping how our future could turn out to survive the recalcitrant wrestling of the powerful powers. It is just the case of two elephants fighting and damaging the grass as conventional wisdom put it.
        If were an Ethiopian, I would worry about the sad skirmishes I watched in streets of Addis- Ababa over the flags because it symbolizes the smoldering fire under the soil. If you were Eritreans you would worry about how the despot is committing the Eritrean people to undisclosed agreements he surly knows the Eritrean people would not condone and eventually negate just because his whims and personal needs have imposed had called for them.

        This way of thinking is essential if the two peoples need to develop their relations as sovereign nations on the basis of mutual and complementary needs rather than one side (as Ethiopia is doing at the present) focusing on expedients that it can extract from a weak and aging dictator? We deal with what is available to us rationale the Ethiopian government has been pursuing would be disadvantageous in the long run. History has proven this unambiguously the hard way – decades of bloodletting.

        And, to comment on Horizon’s seemingly unqualified optimism that “confederation” between the two countries is fate inevitabilities would impose glosses over the way sovereign nations craft relations. The point that should be stated emphatically here is that whatever has been agreed to between Abij’s government and the Eritrean dictator is a matter that does not hold the Eritrean people responsible. I think is mutually beneficial to both Ethiopian peoples and the Eritrean people to remember that the life span of inter nation-state agreements entered by signatories that do not possess proper mandates from the ruled are destined to run up to point when the life span of one of the parties expires; instances of that scenarios are abundant.

        Not to speak about the Eritrea’s dictator, even Dr. Abij is pursuing matters just ridding the honeymoon like mood in the country. I even doubt if he has cleared his policies beyond the cabinet members. I am not sure mere pronouncements in the chamber of the “ meto be meto” parliament would be enough to let him commit his country to matters whose future ramification could impact Ethiopia.

        • Selam Ismail AA,

          It is true that the situation in ethiopia is worrisome but not desperate and hopeless. Ethiopians are together now more than they have ever been over the last three decades. The point is not if ethiopia can solve the present problem, but how best to solve it.

          I have said before and i want to reiterate that i do not stand for confederation. Simply, i am reading the signs and interpreting from past and present situations of ethio-eritrean relations. I do not think that ethiopians are really infatuated in confederation, any more than peace and a country to country relations under international laws.

          Nevertheless, if the wish of the one man rule or the geopolitical situation is such that their are strong factors that push towards confederation, and if we see a significant percentage of eritreans moving to the south, it is much more in the hands of eritrean rulers to decide what exactly they want and act accordingly than what others could do to avoid it.

          Eritreans worry about assab, and ethiopians might not care a lot as much as there are other solutions. PM Abiy cannot decide for eritrea as long as it is a sovereign country with its own government. I do not think repealing the agreement with ethiopia in the future is a problem either. The problem is that eritreans cannot stand against their government, the ethiopian government cannot say it does not want to work with the eritrean government, and things are just moving. As much as the politicians and the people of ethiopia are concerned, the atmosphere is more or less that of indifference than anything else, and the bits and pieces of the agreement at least for the time being do not seem to affect them.

          Finally, it may not be right to ignore the present ethiopian parliament. It may stand against the agreements if it is against the national interest of ethiopia, which of course does not mean that it serves the interest of eritrea.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Horizon,

            I think this confederation, federation business is not feasible now. I don’t think the leaders, PMAA and IA have the capacity and the support to go to that direction.

            On the ERITREAN side, IA is looking out for himself, his family and his future. So he will accommodate what ever Ethiopia wants and needs. This will suit PMAA just fine because he is getting a lot back for virtually doing anything. At the same time, for solving the ERITREAN issue, he will have a lot of political capital that he is going to exploit to his advantage come next election.

            On the Eritrea side, if this open boarders and trade continue, I think IA and PFDJ will also gain a lot of political capital. It will certainly ease of the hardship on the people day to day lives, and that will be a positive development considering where things were just three months ago.

            At this rate, PFDJ may even implement reform and shorten the national services and if it allow free movement of people, ease of on the economic and other controls in the country, it’s huge progress that the PFDJ and IA can capitalize.

            I must even say, he does not even tell the public but let things take their natural course.

            If Eritrea takes this approach it’s safe and it prudent approach to change that it comes. I think lucky for us, because if PFDJ abuse, the public at least from all walks of life will benefit from this as there is no specific target of group people that people can point their anger towards.

            On the Ethiopian side, I think it can get really ugly and dangerous if violence is incited by people to make political gains lead the youth towards anarchy.

            I think the sooner the call election the better so to set the the issue and have a government that has a new mandate.

            I think another 2 years is a long time they way things are progressing.

            Berhe

          • saay7

            Berhe da great:

            Confederation is different from federation.

            In confederation, Eritreans still get what is apparently most important to them—a flag, UN membership, armed force—but their self-rule (non existent now) is lessened, as the country with whom they are confederated has some kind of authority over the people’s institutions (but not the people themselves.)

            Because the word “confederation” is a traumatizing word, it’s euphemisms are used: “complementarity”, “economic integration”, etc. Well, they are traumatizing except to Ambassador Estifanos, our esteemed Representative in Japan who, while we are watching the Eritrean king and his crown prince signing an agreement whose details we don’t know, tweeted “66 years today Eritrea was federated to Ethiopia (15 September 1952.)

            The phrase the hgdefites hate the most which is now coming to haunt them is “self-rule.” If you operate based on trust and tell someone you have total power to run my affairs and I won’t ask a question and those who do are traitors, then don’t be surprised if he exercises that right and passes it on to his son.

            saay

          • Selam Berhe Y,

            As much as the disturbance is concerned, according to the federal police commissioner’s report, there was a country-wide plan to create chaos and to derail the reform. Hooligans were paid money to create a situation that looked like an inter ethnic groups conflict. He added that they used despicable terms about other ethnic groups to create conflict. They attacked, looted and killed people, and in one incidence they tried to disarm a police personnel, and five hooligans were shot on the spot, and some were carrying hand grenades. About 700 of them are apprehended, and many more will be picked in the coming days.

            I brought this because it is not difficult to control the situation. What is difficult is to implement democracy, because there are the enemies of democracy, and there are some people who are not yet ready to appreciate the importance of democracy. Things will be under control soon, and the enemies of ethiopia will soon be known by the ethiopian people.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Horizon,

            I hope the situation is under control.

            Berhe

          • Paulos

            Selam Berhino,

            These people are in a funny business. When these kinds of violence took place under the Weyane’s nose, they said Weyane is destroying the country and now when people are at each other’s throat and killing each other under the fool and novice guy, it is all dandy and under control. Time as they say is the hidden factor.

          • Nitricc

            Hi P; It is amazing how far you will go to protect the TPLF thugs. But you are smart enough when a person goes through cancer eradication by means of Chemo. This the exact situation what is in Ethiopia. They removed the cancer and they are going through chemo and the country acting out. I.e this is what your beloved TPLF thugs left behind and the clean-up costly. that all.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Berhe; I wondering why you get things in the opposite lol. you said
            ” I think another 2 years is a long time they way things are progressing” No, it should be extended at least to four or five years. giving the problems they have; the different poetical personalities they have introduce; the polarization of the four major parties, the list goes on, they need time to do diligent and through discussions, deals and strong political conclusions. So as always you got it the other way.

          • Ismail AA

            Selam Horizon,

            Much of what you stated from Ethiopian standpoint and interest is fair. No problem because properly speaking the future of Eritreans and their country fall within their responsibilities. Ethiopians and their governments can pursue their interests as they see fit within norms and standards that rule bilateral and multilateral relations among governments of sovereign nations. The point I tried to focus on was that broader outlook into the future on the part of current dealings by authorities in Ethiopia would be wise and pragmatic. Drawing durable policies on transient euphoric sentiments and mass outbursts proffer short term benefits future troubles could sweep away.

            In regard to arguments that Ethiopia needs Eritrea and what it can give and take is less than the reverse can be true because as is often stated it has choices. But the entrenched attitude among the Ethiopian especially the central Abyssinian plateau dwellers contradicts recent history whose residue still preoccupies the mindset of the elites.

            Had there been dependence on alternatives as the current arguments attempt to put forward, there would not have been need for protracted wars and bloodshedding. As a matter of fact aware Eritreans would be more than happy if our Ethiopian neighbors would free themselves propensity to shackle themselves by ambitions history has rendered outmoded. This is to say that some of our brothers and sisters will have to convince themselves that the western coastal territories contiguous to the Eritrean state are outside the limits of Ethiopia frontiers.

            One point that needs to be stated in passing here is the view that the Eritrean people have been unable to eliminate the regime, and thus it is not right for them to wish the current Ethiopian government to desist from dealing and benefiting from easily extracted agreements with the dictator. The only message Eritreans want to transmit to our Ethiopian friends is that it would be wise to appreciate the inevitability that sooner or latter the Eritrean people will be able to cause the demise of the regime. It is good for Ethiopians not to forget so quickly that no one had anticipated the appearance of Dr. Abij a year or more ago. Change in Eritrea is ripe, and the Eritrean people can surprise ill wishers and skeptics alike.

    • Paulos

      Selam Ato Kim Hanna,

      I just got off the phone with someone I know from Addis. Addis was in a lock-down today because the people came out to protest the unprecedented crime being committed against innocent people including women [rape and mutilation.]

      No the person I spoke to is not a Tigrean. He is Aderie. He said, people are shocked to their bones, because he said, this kind of cruelty of people against people was never seen in any regime in the past including during the Dergue regime. G-7 and OLF, ምን ይዘውልን መጡ! People are saying!

      • Berhe Y

        Hi Paulos,

        I don’t know much what’s going on except what I saw on facebook and interview of some desperate people. I think this is what Dr. Berhanu Nega was referring in the interview he did with Addis Standard about his biggest worry in the country, the loss of “moral value”.

        I saw some twitter or face book account of Jawar and what he is posting is really not helpful for peaceful co-existence of the country. He is advocating for separation etc.

        What I think is happening, there is a showdown between Amhara and Oromo youth movements for domination. I don’t think it’s the fault of G-7 or OLF but, it appears that people are taking it in their own hands.

        It will be very difficult and dangerous times and I hope the leaders come together and settle the people and back down.

        Enough with this all stupid rallies and demonstrations…there is nothing new that will come out that people haven’t already heard by now.

        Berhe

        • Amde

          Selam Berhe and Paulos,

          I don’t think it is accurate to call what is happening in Addis as showdown between Amara and Oromo youth.

          The context is that among the Oromo militants it is accepted narrative that Addis Ababa is Oromo land that is under occupation by non-Oromos. They think the redress is to bring it under Oromia and the residents into second class citizens. This thinking was more of a fringe but over the past 25 years there have been two fudamental policies that have gotten us to where we are.

          One is legitimacy given by EPRDF to the Addis-as-occupied-Oromo-territory narrative. Everytime EPRDF had some political challenges, like clockwork, it would pull the Addis is Oromo card, both appeasing Oromo nationalists and communicating to the Oromo youth the legitimacy of this thought.

          But in contradiction to that, the land holding system was such that Oromo peasants surrounding Addis were being pushed out without compensation when the city was expanding (as cities do). The haphazard nature of the city’s growth led to the recognition for an integrated regional growth plan – the so-called “Master Plan” – which was tagged by Oromo nationalist as a land grab by Addis. The politics aside, uncompensated capitalist land grab of peasant land by real estate developers or factory businesses led to peasant unrest and the Qerro movement and here we are.

          What is a city? The land it is on is of course an important factor, but it is obviously a lot more than that. I don’t think there is anywhere in the world a national capital that is ringed by a hostile population. If you talk to young Oromo farmers or small-towners around Addis, many of them sincerely believe the highways and skyrises and villas belong to the Oromo. How that translates to them personally is not clear, but as an example it has become quite common for Oromo tenants of property rented out by non-Oromo not to pay rent on the grounds that an Oromo should not have to pay rent on Oromo land.

          The first reports of the attacks in Burayu were against non-Amara especially Gurage and Silte, typically known for being enterprising and business savvy. But a lot of Gamo and Dorze as well. It is not an Amara vs Oromo thing – I am not surprised to hear they also targeted Tigrayans.

          You also have to see this in the context of what is happening in Harar and DireDawa. Qerro vigilante have been doing similar things there to force people to flee and change the demographics.. OPDO then moves in to do the bureaucratic and legal work to move them from charter city status to Oromiya cities. Oromo nationalists might be pursing their lips in sympathy, but they generally agree with these acts.

          But we got more Arab medals so we cool.

          Amde

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Amde,

            I started by saying I don’t know much what’s going on and I should stick to it.

            On the weekend, I saw a video of Tamagn he had in Baher Dar I think. I didn’t see the whole video (to many videos not enough time) and the question he was asked was, why can’t he stand up for the Amara group, for a lack of better words, instead of “Ethiopiawinet” because others were using their “ethnicity” and he should empower “Amara”. Another guy was saying…from now on, there will not be an inch of land that will be separated “ምንም ቅራጥ መሬት የምትገነጠል የለም”. He was describing what “Amara” and according to him “Protector of the land”. And he said, he is optimistic that withing 5 years, he will see Ethiopian boarders will be at the red sea and Eritrea will be returned back to Ethiopia (to his credit he said via peaceful referendum). I now he is entitled to his opinion and honestly I don’t think there is anything wrong to what he believes in. What I don’t agree is, the forceful message he was sending, that not body will be separated.

            On facebook I saw a message what looks like from Jawar who was advocating for separation. And I saw the video of OLF leaders return and the rally. Last time I saw the video of G-7 return and the rally as well.

            I think the difference between the two is the flag they were waving. That’s what I thought there is some sort of show down going on in Addiss if the two groups are supporting their own group….May be I thought the problem is between the two groups….

            Berhe

          • Amde

            Hi Berhe,

            You are not wrong. It is just an incomplete picture. There is Amara nationalism rising now, and on a national level we are moving into an era of nationalistic competition between the two largest groups. Depending on how you see it, Addis is either a side show or the crown jewel.

            What then to make of the targetting of non-Amara in Burayu? It is strange that a “mob” will selectively attack minorites perceived to have relatively little political clout. In a way, it does not fit what I said in my previous post. But if you step back and think about it, it is a way to attack the “cosmopolitan” nature of Addis to sharpen contradictions as they say. The more it is perceived as an Amara city as opposed to a National city, the more it fits into the long term narrative of Addis as an alien within the Oromo milieu.

            Online comments today seem to reinforce the organized and methodical nature of the “mobs”. Abiy and Lemma’s mealy mouthed responses – including opening fire on Addis Ababans protesting these attacks – just reinforces a view that the new adminstration is unable and unwilling to tackle whatever this “group” is.

            2011 has started off with a vengeance.

            Amde

          • Aligaz G

            Amde,

            I must say I always enjoy reading your posts. Today has been completely quiet in Addis. No internet. No demonstrations. No dead people. All businesses open. We shall see over the next few weeks if the worst is past.

          • Amde

            Selam Aligaz G.

            Likewise.

            I hope things stay that way for a while. Call me a pessimist, but I doubt if the worst is over… maybe for Addis.

            There is a paranoid streak in me that says there are factions with enough money and motivation to make things bad, and what happened in Burayu was an inside job.

            We will see

            Amde

          • Aligaz G

            Amde,

            The rumors are former OPDO members are implicated in the attacks. Apparently Lemma fired so many members a few months back they have now coalesced to create a destructive bloc that is for sale. What is ironic is that approx 2 yrs back the same exofficial who organized the brutal attacks were the ones that sold the plots of land to the silte in Burayu. 10000 birr per plot and local id. Jowar is not implicated in all this.

          • Amde

            Selam Aligaz G.,

            Thats sounds plausible to me. Jawar is a demagogue but I don’t think he would go this low. But disappointing he has not been vehemently condemning it.

            I have always thought the Lemma/Abiy OPDO very improbable and that is why I keep getting astonished at their actions and rhetoric.

            So is this a Tesfaye Urge faction? Is TPLF old guard ditching OPDO for OLF or pushing to reconstitute the ያኮረፈ OPDO? One can very easily see TPLF aggressively pushing for Addis Ababa to be pushed into Oromiya just to spite TeamLemma and the newly “free” ANDM. It doesn’t seem to matter to them that hundreds of thousands of Tigrayans also live in Addis.

            “ማየት ድዬግም አይዶል?” ይላል ያገርህ ሰው..:-)

            Amde

          • Nitricc

            Hi Aligaz; I just stopped and think for a moment when you said..
            ” Today has been completely quiet in Addis. No internet. No demonstrations. No dead people.” NO DEAD PEOPLE!!!!! Did you see how the death is normalized. God save Ethiopia for her animal children.

          • Aligaz G

            Nitricc,

            All nations must deal with their own demons. There are very few bloodless revolutions as you know. Sometimes people like to edge up to the precipice and then recoil. Contrary to recent news coming out of the country we are still extremely peaceful and all is not lost. In all likelihood what we we are witnessing are the last twitches of the TPLF carcass. God is with Ethiopia

          • Nitricc

            HI Aligaz; I understand when change is happening things can happen and adult people will die. What I have watched in Burayu is something different. I never knew that some Oromo are really animals. I am just glad Eritrea escaped long time form this mess and animals.

          • Aligaz G

            Nitricc,

            Ok. Thanks for your concern

          • David Samson

            Sir Amde,

            Two questions for if you will:

            I asked this question before to someone but did not get an answer.
            I lived in Mama Ethiopia long, long time ago, so you need to excuse me for my sloppiness.
            I knew Dorze– those making all the garments (Shemanay). I also knew Wolliso and Wolkite (Both sub-provinces’ of Chebo Na Gurage) , but I have not came across ‘Silte’. Is it memory thing, or were these people part of Gurage?

            Under Ethio’s Federal system, Addis is the capital city of what? Historically, Addis has been a cosmopolitan city. It is now the sit of the Federal gov, and at the same time the land of one of the stack holders: the Oromos. What gives?

          • Amde

            Selam David Samson,

            Ah.. Silte – they were part of Gurage then they became independent. Gurage still pissed off about it. Silte say they have a separate identity. Gurage say – not really – you are just Muslim Gurage. In any case, Gurage were hostile to TPLF, and TPLF was happy to support a cause that would cut them to size. Addis Ababa’s Merkato – long a Gurage business stronghold – has been in virtual civil war for years now between the TPLF supported Silte and the old-school Gurage. Kinda sad now that the new mobs make no such distinction.

            Addis Ababa
            Constitution talks about the “special privileges” Oromiya is supposed to get from Addis Ababa. But Addis Ababa is now the capital of Oromiya AND Ethiopia. Actually not sure what that means to be honest. The ጨፌ ኦሮሚያ which is the Oromiya parliament meets in Nazret, but the executive , i.e. Lemma et al, sit in Addis. So make that what you will. Technically speaking, Addis Ababa was the Capital of Shewa AND of Ethiopia, so were it not for the identity politics, this would be no problem. But we are where we are.

            Amde

          • David Samson

            Sir Amde,
            Thanks God!
            My memory is not bad as I feared. So, Mohmud Ahmed has changed his nationality from Gurage to Silte.

          • Amde

            Haha David Samson,

            That I do not know. All I have heard is he has changed his religion from Muslim to Orthodox. That was a while ago – I dont know if he has converted back or if he is still Orthodox.

            Amde

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam amde
            Guraga = 7 bet guraga +sodo guraga. Sodo guragas r Christians, but out of 7 bet guraga 3 of them r 100% muslims and the rest 4 of them r majority Muslims. In conclusion gurages r majority Muslims.

          • Ismail AA

            Selam gashe Amde (እንዴት ሰነበቱ),

            It seems the issue of Addis Ababa bodes serious dilemma. The dual function of the city could be problematic and cost lives unnecessarily. The only way to settle things appear to be when the Oromia will control the federal as well as state status of the city. Otherwise would it sound outlandish to think about need to think about building a new federal capital elsewhere like Abuja instead of Lagos in Nigeria?

          • Amde

            Selam Gash Ismael,

            We don’t have an ethnic neutral territory to build a new capital. Nor do we have the money.

            Technically speaking the Oromo now control both the Federal seat and the Mayoralty. An OPDO mayor was appointed for us Addis Ababans since we don’t deserve our own say.

            Personally I happen to think Addis Ababa is at an almost perfect location to fully represent the country. It is well in the geographic middle. It sits almost in the middle of the Eastern and Western highlands. It straddles the highlands (Entoto) and sprawls into the lowlands towards Nazret. A circle of 100 kilometer radius puts the Amara and Southern regions within reach. A 150km radius circle puts the Afar state within range. It is also a historic location – some of the battles with Ahmed Gragn were fought not too far away. Maybe it is me, but i read a lot of the country’s diversity in Addis that i don’t see in any other city.

            It is also the narrowest pinch point for the Oromo on the Eastern vs Western highlands.

            The logical thing would be to make it a Federal territory. But it is a city and it represents by some estimates about 40% of the country economic activity. So it will grow and continue to grow. However, Oromo nationalists think this growth in the narrowest pinch point between the Eastern and Western Oromo will eventually severe the territorial contiguity of an Oromiya state territory. That is part of the reason why they demagogued the otherwise sensible “master plan”

            So there you have it.

            The right thing to do is to have integrated growth between the now Oromo farmland outskirts and the cosmopolitan city so the farmers benefit from its growth without being impoverished or disenfranchised. Cosmopolitan centers are pretty much multi ethnic by definition, so this vision does not comport well with that of Ethnic Nationalists who would rather paint nice solid crayon colors.

            If you game this out, it can really only be solved by what Abiy and Lemma have articulated. That is – the Oromo recognize they are kinda stuck in Ethiopia but they constitute the largest ethnic component. With that comes opportunities and responsibilities. This is no game for purists who want to kill and rape their way to a “purer” Addis Ababa.

            Amde

          • Ismail AA

            Dear gash Amde,

            Thank you for you generously broad answer to my question, to be candid with you afterwards I second guessed my self to had raised it when I reflected precisely on the couple of points you mentioned at the beginning. But I also glad that I asked because I benefited from you input.

            I absolutely agree with everything you stated. Addis Ababa is located at an ideal point and has served the nation as center of melting pot since the famous Empress Taitu whispered to Emperor Menelik II to settle her close to the hot springs (ful weha) beneath the hill on which the Emperor built his great palace.

            Moreover, I understand Addis Ababa is irreplaceable as center of power and administration. I know this very well. Perhaps if I were to be asked my familiarity with ins and outs of Addis Ababa and Asmara, I would say that I know the former more than the later because I lived and studied there while I was a casual visitor to Asmara because I came from a place 110 kms to the south of it.

            My life in Addis Ababa and study of Ethiopian history equipped me with some clues about Ethiopia’s affairs and geography. I mean I am not clueless as some I-know-it-all individual in this forum has scribbled. It is the hope of well wishers of the Ethiopian peoples, and mine in particular, that the Ethiopians would find solutions for problems change brings with it, including the issue of the capital.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam ismial
            Ur above comment shows, u have no clue about ethiopia except hate for ethiopia. What happened right now is expected to happen anytime because of the 27 years hate poltics, the sad part is the victims of the problem r not people involved in this hate poltics for now, but mark my word the instigators will cry slowly forever.

          • Peace!

            Hi TA,

            Is this how you normally communicate or debate with people? I hope you find your happiness soon , Goodness!

            Peace!

          • Ismail AA

            Dear Peace,
            Thank you; you you gave me break not to be compelled to engage unengagable individual.

      • saay7

        Selamat Paulos:

        There is a long but very much worth it interview Dr Berhanu Negga had with Addis Standard where he says what worries him about Ethiopia is not ethnic conflict or its ability to handle democracy but….

        For me, the bigger worry is the moral collapse in the society. The degree to which people have literally lost their moral compass.…you know the absence of mechanisms of learning right from wrong. Making a distinction between what is right and what is wrong. Every society has to have some kind of a moral compass to exist. Our moral compass has been lost. Our religious institutions are corrupt. The state is corrupt, everything is corrupt. There is no civil society, there are no even independent traditional institutions such as ‘Shimgilina’ [traditional peace making mechanisms]; none of these institutions are functioning [the way they should]. So, it is a society sometimes that has lost its bearing, you know, it doesn’t know which way to go. That is why you have this inbuilt anger and madness that makes this ethnic divisions much bigger than they are and why they trigger this emotional reaction, because we have lost our basic moral compass and the concept of the rule of law.

        While I have zero hope on all the Ethio opposition (they all practice one ideology called MyTurnism, emphasizing group rights as defined by ethnic brokers over individual rights), Dr Berhanu Negga seems to be the lonely voice of individual liberty. I saw a video of him being yelled at by the ethno agitators of Amhara in some dreary public meeting, simply because he said your group rights don’t extend to violating others.

        Of course what he said about Ethiopia goes double or triple for Eritrean society. A culture of fear for the people and impunity for the ruling class, after methodically destroying every potential or real civil society and corrupting every institution including our churches and mosques.

        saay

        • Teodros Alem

          Selam Saay7
          What u saw a video of him(dr b) being yelled at by the ethio agitators of amhara in some dreary public meeting r like k h, abi, horizon kind of organized group of people and they r the one almost all the videos posted by them.

          • saay7

            Teodros:

            I never understand you, but at least this time you are funny.

            Can you and Semere T create a Paranoid Freaks Club of Trans-Mereb? And maybe have a podcast where you just tell us all your conspiracies? I would definitely give it a listen.

            Anyway in the Berhanu N video, these empowered Amhara Group Rights shouters were telling him “you weren’t here; you don’t understand…”. I guess in some ways it’s good to humble the liberators before they come like Semere Ts heroes in Eritrea: torturing, raping, stealing, enslaving the people and demanding they be thanked for it.

            saay

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Saay7
            U will never understand me because u think u understand the edited videos and a propaganda news , created to confusing peope for the purpose to mislead the people.
            In every public meetings in ethiopia(outside ethio) there r organized people like abi, horizon kind of guys, who ask a weird question. And that is the reality. What is funny is u find the AmmA org. Journalist report on eri not true but not the same kind of guys tricky vidoes.

          • saay7

            Selam Teodros:

            Ah, ok, but the funny part is why you accuse people like Abi, Horizon etc. That’s too conspiratorial: to connect things that aren’t connected.

            On Amhara TV, I have seen them do first rate reporting (interview with Bereket Simon) and lousy reporting (on Eritrea). The measure should not be perfection and I recognize that people can be fooled by professional conmen (PFDJ) and I will give them the benfit of the doubt to see what’s next.

            My assessment of Dr Berhanu is that of all the Ethiopian activists and opposition, he appears to genuinely believe in civil liberties and individual rights and unlike Andargachew he has never praised PFDJ so I am hopeful about him. My guess is he will never be a politician but head up some human rights NGO and he will criticize politicians even if they are from his ethnic group, a rare thing now in Ethio politics.

            saay

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Saay7
            1st, abi, horizon, kim kind of guys, thier logic is the same with that of pro eprdf propagandists and thier flip flapping tells me, they have instruction what to say and how to say it.
            2nd,i know this one makes u laugh but there r a big chance that bereket controversy is fake, after the markos incident andm including bereket might want to show the people andm has been reformed for good .
            3, Dr Berhanu, i think his idea is the only way out for ethiopia from crisis and a full out war.
            4, what u said about “he will criticize politician even if they r from his ethnic groups, a rare in ethio poltics” tells me the edited vidoes and news r working just fun.

          • Abi

            Hi Teodros
            Reading your comments is just like watching “Shrek donkey ” again and again.
            Thanks for the entertainment at this sad times.
            Thanks Shrek.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam abi
            Don’t pretend u r sad because of what happed in addis, u born sad and end up sad because that is who u r and that has been the truth when every time u open ur mouth. Shrek donkey belongs for devil sad person like u, u r shrek donkey.

          • Paulos

            Abinism,

            You should see me laughing. That guy is so funny. I admire Sal for all the patience in the world and putting up with that dude’s sack of BS.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam paulos
            U think u know somthing? U should laugh on urself. U r nothing but pathetic idiot.

          • David Samson

            Selam Paulos,
            I would rather lock horns with you than Tedros Alem. To me, he is quite a character, and brings a different perspective to Awate. I like his insistence on knowing all our subjects. In fact, I would call him ‘Mr Knowledge.’

          • saay7

            Selamat Teodros:

            Ah this is so great. Let’s deal with them one at a time:

            1. Do you have evidence that they are instructing to say what they say and by whom?

            2. The AMMA interview with Bereket was following publication of his book and attending talk shows criticizing ANDM. So ANDM and Bereket created this conspiracy to fool the people into thinking ANDM is reformed and in the process of proving that Bereket has to be accused of being a thief and AnDM has to explain why it fired a guy whose resignation it had rejected?

            3. Agree but nobody will listen. Most people think individual liberties, human rights are a luxury. They just want their turn at the trough.

            4. Can you sure the unedited versions of these videos? If you have it I promised to watch although the edited versions are long and painful enough.

            saay

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Saay7
            1,the evidence is thier flip flapping and thier logic, by whom? By eprdf or one of eprdf coalitions.
            2, bereket, i was mainly talking about his disagreement with andm and they probably used the time as an opportunity of publication of his book. They r dirty politicians.
            Anyways i said a big chance.
            3, trust me the vast majority of ethiopians agree with him but the strongly organized ethnic parties and the country laws itself r not feverable to his kind of poltics.

          • saay7

            Selamat Teodros:

            So, in an ideal Ethiopia, what would you like to see?

            You know, because all these flipper and flapper Ethiopians you mentioned and didn’t mention (Eyob, T-Kifle, Fanti) have been confusing me all these years. What do you vast majority of Ethiopians want?

            saay

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Saay7
            Fanti and t kifle r openly eprdf/tplf, the rest the eyobs r not openly eprdf, some of them act opposition, some of them act priest but helping eprdf in different technics.
            Do u know eprdf has over 6 millions members? They r everywhere. In every demonstration, meeting, in every demo that u see a weird posters that they show u on tv, youtube r them.
            I think the last 50 somthing years of ethiopia poltics now become on a dead end, either ethiopia has be a Real democracy based on citizenship or there will be several way full blown war.

          • saay7

            Selam Teodros:

            Thank you for busting Eyob as a closet EPRDF. I always found that guy suspicious. But I think you are wrong on Fanti (he is kungfu Raya) and TKifle who has burned his TPLF card. (It’s on YouTube, You have to look for the unedited.)

            PFDJ used to say they had 650,000 members in 1996. We now know, based on retroactive census, that it was the number of every adult Eritrean who used a PFDJ coupon. How did the EPRDF get their numbers: from the number of farmers who asked for fertilizers?

            Good luck on real democracy. If Ethiopia becomes one, it will be the second after Botswana. If I were you I would lower my expectation to a country that values human life and holds people accountable when a single Ethiopian life is lost and it treats all Ethiopian life as equally precious. Not like the Addis demonstrators who demonstrated only when the killing came close to their hood.

            I am talking to you Kaddis. (Most likely a closet EPRDF.)

            saay

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Saay7
            What is sad about addis is the vast majority of the victims r people from other places of came to work in addis and surrounding. Most of them want there looking for a cheap house rant.
            People in addis should fell shame for what happened in addis and thier silence starting from 2005 is the one embolden the killing. Sometimes i think they need somekind of punishment for wakeup call. And sometimes i fell they deserve it.

          • saay7

            Teodros:

            It just surprised me how quickly they turned on the sainted Lemma. People are fickle. This is why I am not a politician.

            But you seem to know a lot about Ethiopia and all its people. Are you a historian?

            saay

          • Eyob Medhane

            Sal, Tedros,

            Huh?! How? What? When?huh? What I did, now?!

          • saay7

            Eyob:

            Teodros and I know what you did last summer.

            And the summer before that.

            Saay

      • Kim Hanna

        Selam Paulos,

        During the PMHD administration there was a looting of hotels and businesses in Ambo area. It quickly turned in to politics instead of a crime and no wrong doer was punished. That kind of Government behavior invites more of the same.
        I hope they get their acts together and establish law and order otherwise it can easily overwhelm any system.

        Mr. K.H

    • Nitricc

      Hey Kim; I never thought this will happen in Ethiopia let alone in Addis. I thought one of gift being religious is to have a fear of god in your heart so you don’t commit such horrible crime. It is reported over 200 people’s death; for what? I know your favorite PM Melles has massacred 193 people in broad day light but that was politics and the election must be rigged but how do you explain this? I know Jawar is the most dangerous idiotic activist you have there and he incur painful activities in the coming few weeks. If anyone loves your country, take out Jawar bu any means necessary. I know PMAA will not do it because he believes To kill is to lose; any losers kill. No Sir, you are wrong, you got drop few bodies and see how things clam down and order is restored.

      • David Samson

        Hi Nitricc,
        According to BBC, The number of people detained has risen to 200. At least 23 people were killed.

  • abdulworld

    Hello Ayenta,
    I don’t think IA cares too much about the money or his family… from his history and behavior he is of Pol Pot type…

    He is definitely an anomaly in 2018 world… all of this appearance of his son.. It has nothing to do with him feeling the need to continue his legacy or anything like that.. if you have to understand an element of Gedhli field experience is lack of civil norm or society in terms family unit.

    That is why to him and his supporter the indefinite national service which causes or destroys family structure is normalized.. someone people they only see their family twice year. Fathers who can’t be father to their children. Family fabric destroyed.
    So, if you see his son appearing in public it is not because Issias feels the need to groom him or that.. he can care less about his children and family..or legacy..

    My view is the problem him and his crew are dealing with is the external or neighborhood issue. Their guerrilla and feudal mindset is having difficulty dealing with outside world.

    Can you imagine how uncomfortable he feels when he is around Dr. Abiy 42 Phd or the Erratic Prince Salman 33 years old…

    IA is about image and not substance. Remember many years back when BBC journalist challenged him with reality and facts- he lost it like grumpy old fool and embarrassed himself.

    He is finding himself standing next to Prince Salman and Dr. Abiy whose combined age nearly equals IA (72)…

    After 20 years, their Woyane, Meles, tplf vs Eritrea… narrative is not only disappearing.. but people that they are talking with or dealing with are half their age.

    Those uneducated Eritrean simpleton dinosaurs are finding hard to fake the funk… IA is probably finding it hard to negotiate or talk to people in Eritrean talk would be classified as “Youth”… he could ignore 33 year old Zalman but what about 42 year old Phd… both guys running countries either significant wealth or population…

    I am sure if he could or his supporter could… they would pray to some supernatural force to bring back Meles…

    it is this discomfort that is forcing IA and his inner circle to move his son forward in limelight.. If the leader of Ethiopia or Saudi Arabia were old school or some 60+ years old folks.. you wouldn’t hear anything about IA’s son or what his name is…

    So, all those people talking about IA grooming his son or protecting his legacy might looking it from wrong lens. That would require thinking about the future and building… Some element of Eritrean culture is too reactive for that…

    Some element of Eritrean culture is very insular with low educational attainment and its modern 30 year war has conditioned its people to a more reactive mindset… when you combine these three things.. IA and what you call the “silent majority” behavior or reaction makes more sense.

    For me insularity + reactive mindset + low educational attainment are three elements that add to decision pool to better understand.. how some Eritrean make decision especially government and some its true believers.

  • haileTG

    Merhaba Ayneta,

    The succession of IA by his son is basically unavoidable, barring the sudden overthrow of his regime. By definition, a dictatorship can not hand over power peacefully because it is dangerous to do so. In the case of IA, he is implicated in a life time worth of criminality which ended up verified and documented by none other than the UN and for no less than egregious crimes against humanity. How can IA extricate himself from this? It is not an evolving case that can be backtracked like the terrorism linked sanctions that his regime ended up with. It is a done deal to be there for posterity. So, naturally, given the ability to do it, he can only try his best to stabilize his son into a position of power. No other person can be trusted not to change their mind after they get to power. His son would have to defend his father’s legacy because it is a personal issue more than anything else.

    The idea of IA being replaced is understandably annoying to everyone. But the choices are limited. IA does not have a choice, as simple as that. The Eritrean people may have to choose between a devil they know and an angel they don’t. There is no united, transition ready opposition force. The other option is an army take over. However, we know the military leaders too well. A bunch of human traffickers, contrabandists and rapists. They were responsible for subjugating young Eritreans to slave labor in their agricultural fields and charged them $10,000 to escape from the very plantation fields to the Sudan. I know they had great heroic feats under their belts from Ghedli era, but at a personal level they really are ignorant and backward individuals with zero humanity. Otherwise, a divided opposition will gravitate into religious, ethnic and regional conflicts and intractable catastrophe.

    In this context, and weighing the unavoidable nature of succession in dictatorships, Abraham Isaias Afewerki may likely be propelled to replace his father. External forces might also ensure he gets to security back up to stabilize in the role.

    For all I know, I was expecting Nitricc’s YPFDJ were next in line, well they can forget about it now:)

    • saay7

      Selamat Hailat TG:

      Well. We have accelerated on the Kubler Ross dealing with grief of Abraham I Afwerki (your AiA from now on) skipped a few steps (denial, anger) and reached negotiation already? Thanks Hailat.

      Here’s you AiA on an Ethiopian military helicopter with his bodyguards.

      https://photos.app.goo.gl/S5BGzsdfCQ2Pqa7Y7

      Saay

      • haileTG

        Hi Saay,

        I will risk a guess: the next thing will be that AiA would hold a public seminar to brief our people at home and diaspora about the objective situation of the country, the peace process and b’medeb ztetahzu wuTnatn:) This may also take the form of extended interview with ERiTV.

        • saay7

          HaileTG:

          Nah. The next step is something soft and harmless. Theater opening. Book club. Maybe a guest judge at Shingrawa, our Eritrean Idol (there’s already a family connection wink).

          I have to send you my copy of “how dictators prep the sheep for their next wolf I mean shepherd”

          Saay

          • ghezaehagos

            Hello Ayatat,

            The dauphin is here! Finally!

            ‘Zwedey Adi AboHagotatka kitree…negawus indina…xibah negho eza zufan nabaka iya..”

            It is always known the tyrant and his henchmen has reserved special contempt and disdain for their supporters. They don’t even pretend to care; the last few months have demonstrated that, if any doubt.

            The dissatisfaction among the foot soldiers is palpable. They were treated worse than trash and they were left to helplessly witness one spectacle after another that demolished their two decades old indoctrination about Ethiopia, ‘one people’ ‘TPLF’. The latest Zalambesa where the tyrant took his son “Adi AboHagotatKa kitree” tour was a final one. The holocaust was complete as Scott F. wrote.

            Yet, I assure it takes one half-hour or less ERI-TV- of what passes for charm offensive to mend the herd because they are there not for Isaias but against the opposition. There are no genuine supporters but these who take that name to stand against the opposition.

            The recent developments has one changed the game tremendously. Now it is not about opposition or support; not even about human rights per se. It has morphed into something else. It is about Eritrean identity or slow assimilation into Ethiopian identity. It is a huge, huge relief for Eritrean opposition because the goalposts have changed to mean something to every Eritrean.

            For me, the public sightings of ‘alga-werash’ in two major events, Zalambesa and Jeddah is quite remarkable. The dauphin “heir apparent”, prematurely balding, accompanies the ailing king to the kingdom of ailing king. KSA, an absolutely disgusting government, banks on its vast oil riches. Its vassal government across the Red Sea is also rich; in having meek, subdued populace that can easily be manipulated by ‘half an hour’ lecture from the king.

            Ghezae Hagos

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selamat Haile TG and Saay,

            I think I woke up on the wrong side of my bed this morning. I am suspecting everything and everyone insight.

            Many, perhaps the majority, seem to have very high respect for Minister Birhane Abrehe and I have no reason to question whether he deserves it or not. I also took his recent open call for PIA’s resignation and to gather the National Assembly to elect a new leader as bold and daring as it can be.

            However, lets assume PIA agrees, he gathers the National Assembly soon, and resigns.

            1) How likely is the National Assembly to elect Abraham as the next president?

            2) If so, could Minister Birhane Abrehe’s recent call be considered part of PFDJ’s plan all along?

            2a) Would you say that majority Eritreans would accept the election as free and fair?

            PS:
            My curiosity is not based on anything I saw or heard. It simply occurred to me out of nowhere.

          • Nitricc

            Your Fitness: have you ever witnessed anyone inside the country let alone calling for PIA to step down but criticizing PIA? No! so why now? I think it is cooked. Your assumption is not out of possibility. The more I think I about it, the more your # 2 take the possibility. Response to your take # 2A: of course they would. They never had any election so anything resemble to election and change, they will take. I really don’t think the Eritrean system that bad; the biggest problem with system is the lack of the rule of law. once they implement the rule of law, the rest is very minor. When you see what is going in Ethiopia; one will say, okay is not bad what is in Eritrea.

          • saay7

            Selamat His Fantiness:

            I would like to separate the author from his book.

            Author: to call for change from inside the belly of the beast and to live to tell about it is remarkable. I won’t even begin to pretend I know how and why: it certainly is very unlike standard operating procedure we have seen in the last 27 years where the “knock knock ትድለ ኣለኻ” would have come 15 minutes later, leading to his permanent disappearance.

            Book: I have ordered my two books. It is supposed to be 500 pages and I refuse to comment based on the sensational excerpts the mesherfets are mesherfeting. So, stay tuned.

            saay

          • Shum

            Hello Saay,

            You’re right, they gave him more than 15 minutes, but got him anyway true to form. Quite remarkable. Well, they arrested his wife according to reports so why not add him to the family prison. I am certain that that Semere Tesfai will be outraged and denounce this as criminalizing politics. Let’s hope Mahmoud doesn’t describe this as a so-called arrest. You’ve always been profound in your words. One of the things you say that I latch onto is your fear of what PIA leaves behind in terms of how our people and norms are impacted. I would like to add, I am concerned what he has already done do our people’s psyche.

            Shum

          • saay7

            Selam Shum:

            There is a MaHmuday video reacting to the news of the arrest. It’s an authentic reaction: unfiltered, genuine and touching. Just search on YouTube “in support of former Eritrea finance minister…”

            One of the points MS makes in the video is against the culture “oh well we were expecting that to happen.”

            They picked him from a public place while he was sitting with his son for breakfast. Nobody from the public said “hey what are you doing, where are you taking him.”

            Semere T? I don’t know what the deal is up with him. But he likes to be respected, that’s all I gather from his writings. That’s most important. Others brings disrespected doesn’t move him one bit.

            saay

          • Shum

            Hello Saay,

            I saw the video. Touching indeed. I retract my slight and apologize to Mahmud. This past week has been challenging for me since I saw that Vice New report on Libya to see our people and other Africans being treated in such barbaric ways. I don’t understand how someone can treat a fellow human this way. There was one Eritrean girl in the video that was brave enough to speak even through she knew her Libyan captors would punish her after the cameras left. I was so touched by her bravery and worried what may happen to her afterwards. And now you hear this stuff happening. Why are so many Eritreans not bothered by this abnormality?

          • saay7

            Selamat Shumay:

            Not all have normalized the abnormal:

            1. There is a campaign to call the presidents office and his ministers office to stop what they are doing.

            2. Some are reaching out to mainstream media to cover the news and to get some comment from the government.

            3. Some are reaching out to Ethiopian media to do it.

            I don’t think even the most baskety of Africa’s basket cases that arrests a former minister because he wrote something critical about the president.

            By the way, I don’t know if you heard Eritrean Charge Berhane “public seminar” in DC: he said that people outside prison are worse off than our prisoners. I don’t know if these people know how they sound completely insane because there is nobody to tell them they are insane.

            saay

    • Ayneta

      Hailat:
      I agree with you. The only plausible route for IA to ensure smooth transition and avoid a fate like that of Ghadafi is to bring his son to the picture. The other option is for him to flee the country, but I wouldn’t bet my money on the latter. the question is how his supporters and the rest of the population will react once he anoints his son. That would be interesting to watch.

      • saay7

        Ayneta/Hailat:

        There is a Plan B which will render AiA an impossibility.

        Plan B:

        It is a big Zegerm, it requires faith:

        ብዝ ኣመንክዮ ተከሒድኪ
        ግና ትቕጽሊ ትደምቂ መሊስኪ

        All we need to do is what this political program says we must do in the chorus:

        https://youtu.be/LX4uAuAyfrM

        saay

      • Abraham H.

        Hi Ayneta, here is what I think; the supporters will continue to support, some few may fall out, but doesn’t have any impact, remember this is a religion called ‘Isayasism’. The few guys with real hit power, i.e. the security bosses, will be bribed with wealth and power. The so-called silent -majority will also continue to be just as their name shows-silent. And those who oppose such a transition will still remain a minority. Dictatorship has been institutionalised in Eritrea and it will not be easy to break lose of it when the people have chosen to live with it rather than challenge it.

    • Semere Tesfai

      Selam HaileTG

      1. – “Isaias Afewerqi is implicated in a life time worth of criminality which ended up verified and documented by none other than the UN and for no less than egregious crimes against humanity. And we know the Eritrean military leaders too well. They are a bunch of human traffickers, contrabandists and rapists.”

      And in your entire existence on this planet, what have you done for Eritrea?

      You’re calling yourself ERITREAN with PRIDE because of their leadership sweat tears and blood. Coward loser!

      Semere Tesfai

      • haileTG

        ሰመረታይ እንታይ ደኣ ጸርጸር ትብል ሶንይ ምድሪ Haha,

        BTW why do you need to use numeric point if you only have one thing to say? Where are #2 … You see anger is a temporary state of madness, you end up doing and saying things you wouldn’t otherwise, you end up hurting those who shouldn’t be hurt, you end up killing those who shouldn’t be killed, and you end up insulting those who shouldn’t be insulted. According to ancient beliefs, if you die while angry, you risk coming back as one of the lower creatures. Try to be calm but rational as much as you can manage it. You’ll have clearer view of your surrounding.

        Now to your point number 1 (the one and only one:)

        1. – “Isaias Afewerqi is implicated in a life time worth of criminality which ended up verified and documented by none other than the UN and for no less than egregious crimes against humanity.”

        “And we know the Eritrean military leaders too well. They are a bunch of human traffickers, contrabandists and rapists.”

        I have factual evidence to support the above claim, can you refute it? Even if some one has “done nothing for Eritrea in their entire existence on this planet” (what ever that means) and they are “coward loser” (no idea what that means either), it doesn’t refute the assertion. Now take deep breath and read the point you copied as #1 and refute it (with evidence).

        Have a peaceful rest of the day STF ዓርከይ…

        • Semere Tesfai

          Selam HaileTG

          1. – “Isaias Afewerqi is implicated in a life time worth of criminality which ended up verified and documented by none other than the UN and for no less than egregious crimes against humanity.”

          Haile: According to your buddy saay7, you EARN A LIVING contributing “valuable information” for the team of Sheila B. Keetharuth. Meaning, BY NIGHT you help right FALSE reports of Eritreans “VICTIMS” of the PFDJ regime with no names, no faces and no verifiable IDs for your boss, and BY DAY you came here to Awate to vomit your filth quoting the very Human Rights reports you help wrote the night before – all for the purpose of regime change.

          Sir: you’re not fooling nobody. Or are you?

          2. – “And we know the Eritrean military leaders too well. They are a bunch of human traffickers, contrabandists and rapists.”

          Unlike you a coward,- the men and women of the Eritrean defence forces that you are insulting are battle tested selfless fierce fighters who made the IMPOSSIBLE possible. Even as we speak now, NOT YOU AND YOUR LIKES, but the Eritrean men and women of our defence forces whom you’re trashing today, are the ones that are still keeping Eritrea’s sovereignty and its territorial integrity. They are the ones that are building it from ground up. They are the ones who are still WRITING HISTORY to secure Eritrea’s future place in the Red Sea Horn Region. And you? Oh well…….

          ንስኻ፡ ንሓይልታት ምክልኻል ኤርትራ፡ ኣይኮነን ክትጸርፎምን ብኦኦም ክትውዕልን፡ ጸዋር ሳእኖም ክትከውን ‘ውን ኣይትብቅዕን ኢኻ።

          ክቡር ማዕረ ነብሱ የኽብረካ፡ ሕሱርከ – ማዕረ ነብሱ የሕስረካ፡፡ ይብሉ ወለድና ከም ‘ዚ ምስ ረኸቡ።

          ሰመረ ተስፋይ

          • saay7

            Semere T:

            Upvoting you and Teodros for making me laugh.

            እስኻስ ፈራዳይ ኣይትኹን: no wonder you cheer PFDJ style of “justice”: ገለ እንተ ዘይገብሩስ ኣይምኣሰርዎምን::

            For whatever it’s worth, that thing I said about Haile TG was a joke. Jay Oh Kay Eee. No wonder the country is a mess: it’s being run by Semere T types.

            saay

          • haileTG

            መርሓባ ሰመረታይ… ወይ ጸርጸር፡ ዶ’ምበር ክሳብ ሰሉስ ክትሓድር ኢኻ? …Haha

            You see Semere, look how crazy an anger makes you look. It propels you to speak even if you have nothing to say! Just focus on the fact that you’re looking at virtual texts on your screen, don’t allow them to mess up your clarity. Calm..1, 2, 3…. we’ll try again:

            1. – “Isaias Afewerqi is implicated in a life time worth of criminality which ended up verified and documented by none other than the UN and for no less than egregious crimes against humanity.”

            “And we know the Eritrean military leaders too well. They are a bunch of human traffickers, contrabandists and rapists.”

            I have facts to corroborate it, can you refute it? Just to organize your response, please post script your ahhhh Akaki zeraf bs. Either refute it factually or accept it fully. ጸለለል ክትብል ምስ ጫማኻ ከይትድቅስ ሰመረታይ። እቲ ብጭብጢ ተታሒዙ ዘሎ ጉዳይ እዚ ዝነበብካዮ ኮይኑ፡ ወይ እመኖ ወይ ብጭብጢ ኣፍርሶ። BTW why would someone need to carry their shoe, don’t they want to wear it 🙂

          • Semere Tesfai

            Selam HaileTG

            “I have facts to corroborate it, can you refute it? Just to organize your response, please post script your ahhhh Akaki zeraf bs. Either refute it factually or accept it fully. ጸለለል ክትብል ምስ ጫማኻ ከይትድቅስ ሰመረታይ።”

            Assuming all you’re after is the truth to come out:

            EVEN IF I CAN’T, I ASSURE YOU, SOMEONE WILL!!!!

            Now, I challenge you to present the PFDJ “VICTIMS” full names, their birth places, their ranks and units if they served, and their faces. Then if you do, I will respect you, I will apologize to you, and I will fight the PFDJ regime on your side. Because you are reporting the truth, and nothing but the truth.

            But if you went-on into your ጓል ዘረባ (side issues) to deflect the question, which I expected you to do just that, then you apologize to the brave men and women of the Eritrean defense forces. How about that.

            Semere Tesfai

          • haileTG

            Selam Semere,

            I would take you up on your challenge, but your offer to oppose PFDJ if I show you what you looking for isn’t enough. Actually, we are currently over capacity for opposition, we can’t take you at this time. Stay put where you are as a heinous regime’s supporter.

            I have a red hot evidence with not only face side pictures but back of their heads too. I think you’ll love what I’ll show you. It is iron clad, air tight, no wiggling space and the rest. But in exchange would you stop your anti-muslim Eritreans crusade and see all Eritreans as equal and deserving of freedom and justice?
            If you agree to this, you’re in for a surprise treat of your life. I will give a top notch viewing of the impact of your human trafficking, contrabandist and sadistic generals with their own jail houses.

            You up for the deal??

          • Alex

            Hi Semere Tesfai,
            I can tell you all this propaganda about the Eritrean Military leaders being human traffickers and rapists is mostly a lie since I was part of EDF for few years. There may be some bad apples but I can tell you if some body commit rape with out consent then they could be in trouble.

        • Nitricc

          Hey Haile, just for the record you are saying this “”And we know the Eritrean military leaders too well. They are a bunch of human traffickers, contrabandists and rapists.” when you say you are saying ALL MILITARY LEADERS are human traffickers and rapists: Right?

          • haileTG

            Hey Nitricc, I will give the best answer if you promise to share with my friend Semere T, whatever it is you eat or drink to keep you calm and focused like this:-)
            Nitricc, suppose you are in Eritrea right this second, what does an Eritrean general mean to you:

            1 – if you are an under age girl in Sawa

            2 – if you are a mother looking for household food and supply

            3 – if you are an agelglot on maetot (harvest)

            4 – if you are trying to cross the border illegally

            5 – if you are trying to have an exit visa for medical treatment

            You can add the rest…. the question is not is it all or most or some, rather the prevailing perception of the public, as well as what has been documented through UN investigations. The answer remains:

            —– watch Semere, watch him , watch him….

            And we know the Eritrean military leaders too well. They are a bunch of human traffickers, contrabandists and rapists.

  • Nowinc

    hello,
    Berhane G/Hiwet, Charge’ d’Affaires of Eritrea to the US had seminar where he said the issue of national service and demobilization is top priorty…..prisoners’ issue is not top priority.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z18-SWQ4mJY

    • saay7

      Selamat Nowinc:

      Berhane is a good speaker and an able influencer but this time he can’t pull it through because BS season is over. Among his screamers:

      1. Betrayal: didn’t hear the question but the answer involved a spokesperson for a government with a long history of betrayal (betraying the 1987 EPLF Programme, the 1997 constitution) saying “trust us.”;
      2. National Service demobilization: more vague generalities no specifics: there is no demobilization committee, no study, just boilerplate haluma jara;
      3. Those who are outside prison are more and in worse shape than those in prison, so they will be a higher priority

      The natives are restless. They will need the biggest BS salesperson (Isaias Afwerki) to pat them on the head and give them a ride on his BSmobile, the way we use to drive away kids who can’t sleep.

      Saay
      2.

      • saay7

        Selamat me:

        (Postscript)

        After I wrote what I read what Berhane said, I saw this. Remember his ጋዴም lie about how demobilization is such a high priority for the government? The same day, they send our kids (I mean we should stop calling then brother sisters: these are kids) the scariest Eritrean (Director of National Security) to give them the same tired song and dance about national security (who is the threat now?), self reliance (what happened to complimentarity)…just look at the expression on the faces of the kids.

        What a curse this government is. Enough to make you wish there would be a PFDJ directed comet that would just take them home painlessly. Start at 5:02

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wkjokz7CAhc&feature=youtu.be

        saay

        • Hopr

          Selam SAAY:
          As I said,if this AIA and tge Stealth Confederation is as serious as it sounds,then time is against us.
          And just commenting at awate should not be the way to do the counter-business .
          Prioritizing Demobilization now might be a coded message as Min Berhane Abrehe saod it in his book so as to weaken the EDF then,for a smoother Confederation”.

          Did I see AIA in an Ethiopian Chopper with his Ethiopian Guards?
          Is this a nigjt mare or a day dream or a wotch hunt?

        • Ayneta

          SAAY;
          Poor kids. They have no idea what he is talking about. Still gibberish talk filled with bogus ‘dedication”, ”sacrifice”, ”martyrdom” while his boss is actively licking Saudi’s behind. What is this non-sense about self-reliance btw? are they trying to revive it all over again?

        • Hameed Al-Arabi

          Salam Al-Ustaz Saleh,

          Really this is a stark and documented child abuse photos. Human rights activists and organizations can check photos of children with their BIRTH DATE CERTIFICATES. Such kind of charges the regime will not be able to refute. And Abraha Kassa is the first abuser to be caught RED HANDED. Human rights activists should try to collect birth certificates of the children appeared in the above video and present them to those concerned bodies of human rights organizations.

          • Saleh Johar

            Ahlam Hameed,
            I am not talking about individual views. I am asking the guy to produce an evidence that awate made such an allegation. That is it.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Salam Al-Ustaz Saleh Johar,

            My comment is about the video Saleh Younis attached above. I am confused the allegation you are alluding to. I guess there is a mistake.

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Hameed,
            There are two saleh’s and it’s confusing if you do not make it specific. I am sorry for the mix up.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Hayaka Allah Al-Ustaz Saleh Johar,

            It can happen in the best regulated families.

        • Abrehet Yosief

          Selam Saay7,
          These kids are 32nd round Sawa trainees so they are between 16- 17 years old. The buses from Asmara left around the time the Ethiopian investors were visiting. The first three months are for pure military training. If that is still the case, the poor kids had to either wake up earlier or stay late for these meeting. Visits by high ranking individuals are the worst memories of Sawa kids. The students are usually too tired and some either fall asleep or being young they boo or laugh at some random comment. There is usually heavy punishment after such meetings. My niece and her friend did their hair (quno) during a similar lecture and boy did they pay for it.

          • saay7

            Selamat Abrehet:

            It must be terrifying. One year, you are an innocent 15 or 16 year old, living with your parents, talking about boys or girls, music, fashion like any teenager, the next year you are in Sawa and there is the country’s National Security Director talking to you (at a mandatory seminar) about Hagerawi dHnet and self-reliance.

            In one of his presentations (at Paltalk), Dr. Bereket Berhane Woldeab said this:

            If there is one thing that hasn’t shown any change, it is the nutritional status of infants. Not just lack of progress, but regression. And we measure this by: height-compared-to-age and weight-compared-to-age. One is called stunting and the other is wasting. As of now, 50% of Eritrean children are stunted and wasted, and of those 39% are extreme.

            There is one pic that was taken at the Zalambesa road opening: it is an Ethiopian soldier standing next to Eritrean “National Service” members (physically and psychologically abused childen) and it is staggering really. He looks like a giant.

            saay

  • said

    Selam Alfaromeo
    Cheer up brother it is not the end of the world . Don Quixote de La Mancha, The Impossible Dream song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpXNniqJml0
    And listen to Motherland song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDjx65k8YQ8

  • Abraham H.

    Selam Hope, I never mentioned federation or otherwise, so please don’t put those words in my mouth. I’m just expressing my concern about the absence of consultation with the Eritrean people/their representatives on issues of bilateral/regional concern that might have far-reaching consequences. From the way he had led Eritrea into total dictatorship, with an economy in shambles, disrupted social fabric, and massive exile, I don’t have the slightest of trust towards DIA regarding Eritreans’ interests.

  • said

    Greetings
    Bertolt Brecht’s Galileo, was a modern-day Simón Bolívar,who is livid that the great man has recanted: “Unhappy is the land that breeds no hero.” Galileo’s response is calm: “Unhappy is the land that needs a hero. Nor did he believe in heroes.
    His entire work is suffused with the idea of Mass Democracy, whereby the poor and oppressed achieve self-emancipation through common action for limited or broader goals. trying to achieve with his pen what the liberator had attempted with the sword: the unity of their continent against empires old and new.
    This my saying writes.in the land of only one man Hero. I got lost on today’s peace agreement what it means to future generation of Eritreans not a word is being reveled I have no idea but the words get in the way. Words, bombarding my conscience, breaking my heart. I write. I delete. It’s a release to let my fingers dance across the keyboard. And reassuring that I can delete the dance. I write more words and because they’re in the way, I stumble over them, fall, stand, close the computer and then walk away.
    When I write that these are the darkest of times, words, sentences, paragraphs appear in my head with a warning
    It remined me When you put a shark and a seal and snake and a rat and a falcon and a rabbit in a zoo without separating walls, things start getting nasty and bloody. That’s what happens.
    No one knows about the agreement. I am optimistic or pessimistic? Both, often together, but idea is never giving up hope. The right to dream.
    First the boarder war was made by choose. They knew war was coming. They knew when it would come it and will comes with massive distraction and they knew will hit very hard casualty mostly young conscript and civilian. They knew there would be tens of thousand deaths and thousands of injuries of solders. They knew Eritreans youth would be separated from parents for years to come, the elderly and infirm left alone. [W]e should not be fooled or we where taking for a fool.
    Then suddenly comes the savor Abiymania Abiy Ahmed a real cocktail of two main faith His father was Muslim and his mother Christian .Abiy part of stablemen, A former army intelligence officer, speaks all three of the country’s main languages It helps , Ethiopia’s 42-year-old prime minister and the new Lion he single handily opened new peace treaty about border frontier with Eritrea. The good that come out of it at least families separated for a generation to pour across the border in tearful reunion is positive side. Prime minister AA in six months, after all od sadden departure of his anchored predecessor. The vast majority Ethiopian thirst for political change that and his top post ascendance was a surprise, and the startling to use his new-found authority, and he have been greeted with near-euphoria. Mr Abiy is an insider and an outsider’s with new idea perspective on his country’s very complexities and many contradictions. For his credit PMAA released thousands of political prisoners, it take courage and self-confidence to legalised opposition parties, free press and no restrictions on internet controls. He has proposed opening Ethiopian market for outside investor the telecoms and airline sectors to foreign capital, a change that would breathe new life into an economy reaching the limits of state planning. If PMAA he able to emphasis to issues manifesto of economic policy for equal and justice economy, that is so deeply disconcerting to those who sat comfortably for years atop the hierarchy of the distribution of Ethiopian wealth. This is a key issue will be bread and butter. Central command capitalism was to blame for making and keeping people poor and few rich . including a rigid and authoritarian leadership style that did delver goods at end to hungry masses
    May be PMAA during the business studies at London’s University of Greenwich and with a doctorate in Conflict Resolution, During this period elastically and spicily change must have happened deep reflection and intense soul-searching and upon his return close interaction with ordinary Ethiopian people on the street, he gradually underwent an inner transformation and a radically altered political vision. My assumption PMAA sided with poor Ethiopian and the wretched of the earth. where the in old system elderly are deemed no longer useful and the poor are leftovers to their destiny .If this the case then
    His political enemies were at a disadvantage in fighting ideological battles on his turf. To embrace a philosophy that would make vast people richer and freer. The remaining oligarchy will be worked overtime to undermine him. Who are rich, greedy and unscrupulous. Yet at same paradoxically calming in introduced unprecedented levels of totalitarianism and oppression by inventing and ruling through Communism. TPLF was with Eastern Communist camp. The rivalry between the two superpowers extended to many countries in Africa, as most countries had to attach themselves to one of the two camps this was giving on those days before the end and with the collapse of the Soviet Union. TPLF swished its political orientation to unipolar American policy.
    PMAA what matters is Ethiopia, self-tailored and claimed job title as the peace maker and honest peace broker and the aspirations of the Eritrean people are still inconsequential. No one knows from Eritrean side the interlocutors, wheelers and dealers, and so-called saviors. and in which the fate of the Eritrean people is left to inept leader, incapable of thinking outside the permissible space allocated to him PMAA.
    This what wrote On 9/14/18 in regard Peace agreement headed by PMAA and IA with his adjoint minions , – is so typical of the structural deficiency in the making of the Eritrean and Ethiopian mind.
    So true and typical of Eritrean’ reality are the following anomalies as best demonstrated at the signing ceremony of the peace Accords:
    1) Lack of rational thinking;
    2) Total absence of Transparency;
    3) Total Lack of Accountability; and,
    4) Total absence of any notion or form of representative democracy.
    Eritrean IA and his cohort mind, right across the board with some Eritrean being no exception, suffers from inherent cultural problem owing to centuries, rather millennia- Shaping of the Eritrean mind. Just watch the commotion, the hoopla that IA and PMAA. Worth noting in this regard:
    1) As follows of the signing recent peace IA took the initiative impacting the Eritrean’ lives and future without reverting to any duly elected Eritrean Representative body for review and ratifications. No, the Hell anybody knew what the peace Accords contained; i.e. never debated or reviewed by any representative democratically elected Eritrean body. IA signed the Accords in his capacity as the virtual de facto sole authority deciding on the Eritrean lives and future.
    2) With regard to the commotion in the videoclip above, series of tragic episodes took place:
    In Conclusion, we Eritrean are much less developed to be self-reliant as we are doomed to oblivion and total irrelevance.

  • Consolation

    Hello Paulos,

    If other are like me, then they have no clue what a confederation between two or more states looks like. But you and Sal seem to know it. So could one of you give us a brief outline what it looks like and what we should expect to see if such an arrangement has been secretly agreed upon by the two sides. I see the two leaders have travelled to two Arab countries and received medals on both occasions. Is that a symptom of the confederal flu?

    • saay7

      Consolation:

      It looks like this.

      Oops, sorry, this was from Reasons Why Isaias Should Resign Now:

      https://twitter.com/wedimahta/status/1040263676970905605?s=21

      saay

      • Hope

        Selam SAAY:
        Your point?
        Yes they are living in a HELL and have witnessed that in person .
        The ones in the
        Aseb Front are living even in a more HELLISH life-the reason the entire Batalion with its Colonel ran Way from abput two yrs ago.

        That is why we are advocating for the Peace Process to be a smooth, complete and perfect one so that this poor little girls will start to have a life and education.

        Dr AAA sympathized with them and for them.

        I am losing you nowadays.

        It is ok to opposoe and unleash a propaganda against the Dictatorship but to be an obstacle to the Peace Pro ess is an UNCALLED for.
        We are confusing the naive public ,which has started to be hopeful and optimistic.
        If we have evidence that Eritrea is being sold and a” stealth confederation” is going on,present them to the Public in an organized and convincing way and let us make aware the Public and unify it to that effect to OPENLY challenge the Dictatorship before it is too late but if it is just a propaganda,well, it is distracting confusing and unconstructive!

        This kind of Signing agreements by both sides is not the first one…. and that has neen the modus operandi during the EPLF Era.

        I agree that AGREEMENTS of these significance and gravity should be transparent and official but it is only fair to protest and acknowledge our serious concern and grievance in an appropriate way rather than making it look like a propaganda.
        I just read the Official News from Jeddah and there is nothing new other than making things more official and to our benefit.

        Where is Abreham during that sigining ceremony?

        • haileTG

          Hi Hope,
          Abraham was standing with the official deligations of both countries that were lined up on the right side of the hall. Do you need the picture?

          • Paulos

            HaileTG,

            Denial is such a powerful defence mechanism. It gives some people [deniers] advantage over the realistis.

          • Desbele

            Selam Haile
            spot on comment on FB about it:
            ንዕኡ ኣሰልጢኑ ወዲኡስ ናዓና እዩ ዘለማምደና ዘሎ ከምቲ ልሙድ ስልቱ

        • Berhe Y

          Hi Hope,

          You are becoming Hope against Hope these days…

          You want to deny it and you are trying to hard not to believe.

          Sure Abraham went to the trip with his father because they were attending wedding of his cousin.,,

          He was seating in the room with all ERITREAN and Ethiopian high government delegates.

          Berhe

        • Amanuel

          Hope
          Do you believe that IA has a mandate to excute all these agreements? I hope you agree with me he should have consulted the Bayto or at least his minsters. In any of these agreements you don’t see any one except the three Amigos (IA, poor Osman and Monkey). What does this tell you? Why do you think all agreements are kept secret from the Eritrea public if it is for its own good?

  • Aligaz G

    Abi,

    You are “the linguist”. Probably speed typing while driving

  • Paulos

    Selam My Good People,

    I think Sal is spot on when he said stealth confederation is under way where only heaven knows what the agreement was between Isaias and Abiy in Saudi. What say you folks?

    • Aligaz G

      Paulos,

      They are being very secretive so it is hard to speculate on what was signed. I suspect most of the preliminary work was done in Asmara in order to keep the negotiations from leaking. Too many curious onlookers in Addis which is also a huge nest of spooks. Not sure if you heard but there were rumors a while back the entire AU complex was wired by the Chinese during construction etc. Anyway hard to justify this level of secrecy.

      • Abraham H.

        Dear Aligaz G, but what about the Ethiopian people? Don’t they have the right to know of these dealings? On the Eritrean side, the people have been on information blackout for decades; not to justify it, but that has been the case. Ethiopia has a relatively functioning government institutions, rule of law, justice system, and independent media. So how could Abiy hide his agreements under such a situation in Ethiopia? The ruling EPRDF had a meeting a few days ago, and I think that the ongoing peace process with Eritrea must have been one of the agendas. In that case, probably, the Ethiopian gov is holding back the information, while making sure the interests of Ethiopia are guarded in the dealings.

        • Aligaz G

          Abraham,

          While we trust Abiy we have no idea what he just signed. He is still a little confused about “democracy” and seems to have transparency issues. Likes to surprise in a good way I guess. And frankly speaking the press is feeble and weak kneed. For now all you can say is that Rome was not built in one day.

          • Dis Donc

            Dear Aligaz,
            It has now been three hours since this post of yours showed up. I was hoping that one of our Ethiopians elites chimes-in but no go! So let me correct you some facts here and about the wider parliamentary system. PM goes around and makes deals then parliament dis/approves. Gebito?

          • Aligaz G

            Dis,

            Let’s wait until we have a real Parliment. I think the PM is acting unilaterally on most issues but the country is overwhelmingly with him. He is exploiting his transition period Populist Mandate if you will. But why would anyone deliberately confuse Westminster with rubber stamp meto be meto 4 kilo? Silly you.

      • Amde

        Aligaz G.,

        Addis as nest of spooks. I have thought for a while that Addis is worthy of being a site for a genre of African and international espionage fiction and movies. Youngish professional diplomats from all over Africa stationed there ripe for the picking and recruiting. I have heard stories/anecdotes of non-Ethiopian african women used in the spy trade by the Ethiopian side for sourcing and entrapment.

        The deals being signed – well it just seems to me the Saudis and Emirates would not go to this trouble if war with Iran was not a sure thing. All speculation of course.

        Amde

        • Aligaz G

          Amde,

          To me every other muzungu in Addis is a spook (sorry fish about any latent racism on my part). Let’s say you have to deal with Mr Big from Burkina much easier to play footsie in Addis. Who the hell wants to go there and deal with AC and restive natives. Our natives are mostly unrestive and as you mentioned cute so it all works out. I am not sure but didn’t Wilbur Smith have a spy book based in Addis?

          • Amde

            Oh Aligaz G.,

            It would be fun to have you slightly inebriated and just get you going..

            A long-ago-deceased relative of mine had an affair with a woman in Addis who was part of the..ah.. comfort houses the government maintained and stocked with cuties of all descriptions.. specifically for servicing diplomats… He had stories… and let me just leave it at that.

            Have’t heard about the Wilbur Smith book starring Addis, but I will be sure to look it up.

            Amde

          • Aligaz G

            Amde,

            They call me Mr Insane Diaspora in Addis. Then strangely enought they put me on some sort of medemering steering committee and hate everything I tell them. Addis Ababan is filled with people who only want to get rich quickly and are full of lies and have low IQ’s. Kinda like LA without Iranian Jews and catalytic converters.

    • David Samson

      Selam Paulos,

      There is no precedent to it and has not been applied anywhere in the world. I would not worry too much as it is not a ‘Federation’. Any member of a Confederate could leave the pact at any time, unlike a ‘Federation’. I call it Confederation of Dictators, not people.

      • Aligaz G

        David,

        Careful with sweeping statements. I remember something called the United Arab Republic which voluntarily dissolved a while back. Anyway IF there is a confederation we need to know ASAP.

        • David Samson

          Selam Aligaz,
          There were many attempts in the past but all failed. You need to give me a working one.

          • Aligaz G

            David,

            BTW The UAR functioned quite well for a few years. But if you insist I must give you a current “working” confederation i urge you to look at the EU for starters.

          • David Samson

            Selam Aligaz,

            No,No! I live in the UK and EU. One of the main reasons for the UK wanted to leave the EU is because the original states cooperation has been gradually leading us to a ‘Confederation’. The UK said, no,no, we are not in the business of a Confederation. While we are at it, one of the main reasons that we are heading to no-deal is precisely because the UK and EU do not speak the same languages.

            Here is the definition of EU by BBC:

            What is the European Union?
            The European Union – often known as the EU – is an economic and political partnership involving 28 European countries (click here if you want to see the full list). It began after World War Two to foster economic co-operation, with the idea that countries which trade together were more likely to avoid going to war with each other.

          • Aligaz G

            David,

            The main reason for Brexit was immigration not the finer details of confederation vs political and economic union. There were also issues with the European Parliment. Whichever way you cut it, it is a working agglomeration or whatever and quite successful in my opinion.

          • Dis Donc

            Dear Aligaz,
            Immigration induced problems.

          • Abraham H.

            Dear DS, I’ve seen recent surveys that show a hgiher percentage of the British who regret their Brexit vote and would rather stay part of the EU. While the UK PM struggles to pursue on her plans with Brexit, she is facing huge challenges both within the UK, and in the stalled talks with the EU. These developments are not strange taking onto consideration the quite narrow margin for the yes to leave vote which was at 51,89%. There are even calls for a new referendum on the issue, and provided that the law makers allow such a rerun, then it is highly likely the majority would vote to stay within the EU.

          • Aligaz G

            Abraham,

            The only people happy with Brexit are opportunists like Boris Johnson and out and out right wing xenophobes. I read very recently that companies are rapidly moving out of the UK. The City of Lindon will definitely lose its lofty status as a Global Financial Hub. Serves them right

          • Abraham H.

            Dear Aligaz, just yesterday, the London Mayor has joined those who are calling for a second referendum on brexit. It will be very strange if UK gov goes ahead with the exit, despite such concerns from the people.

          • Aligaz G

            Abraham,

            I agree it would be strange to re referendum but London was completely against from the beginning and London is basically 25% of the UK in economic output. Anyway the Europeans will make sure the UK pays for this monumental blunder whether it stays or leaves. It now looks like the EU is getting angry at Hungary which is also tempted by right wing notions.

          • Amde

            Aligaz G and Abraham,

            I would in fact think multiple referendums (best of three or something like that) should be mandatory when the questions are dealing with matters like these where the impacts could be generational.

            If Brexiters are convinced by the rightness and support of their cause, then they should not fear a second referendum. On the other hand, Remain voters who either sat it out or have a change of heart should have a chance to make their voices heard.

            It just seems strange to me that a change away from a long established status quo should be decided on one narrow outcome.

            I suppose Brexit 2 would fail, but if it were to pass, the PM would be in a stronger position.

            Amde

          • David Samson

            Selam Amde,

            All ex-PMs were reluctant to hold a referendum. Their core argument is– Britain is a parliament democracy and parliament has the last word on all legal and political decisions. The Euro-sceptics have always known that if there were to be a referendum, they would win it. Although I voted in, I put money on the outs and won quite a few bucks.

            You might be surprised to learn that if Germany and France do hold the same, the margin of victory on either side would be less than 1%. 4% is a massive margin.

          • Amde

            Selam David,

            Interesting. I recently heard a discussion comparing the British to the US system. I Britain, parliament is supreme, while in the US it is not Congress but the Constitution. So having said that, what is the sense of parliament on Brexit? It is rather strange that Parliament has even symbolically abdicated its power to say something about the Brexit vote.

            I though EU was most popular with the German and French. Britain was a late comer to teh European scene – more in the sense of not wanting to be left behind. But the EU I though t was primarily to hold the peace between these two, and if the Franco-German population is not interested.. well that is rather interesting to say the least.

            Amde

          • David Samson

            Selam Amde,

            Yes, after referendum, Parliament abdicated its power until it lost in court. A wealthy fund manager (Originally from Guyana) took the government to court and won.

            Whatever the PM gets out of the negotiation deal with the EU, parliament will debate and have a final say.

            My view: EU is not popular with ordinary people. They see it completely detached from their day- to-day lives. The EU politicians know this fact and thus reluctant to hold referendums.

          • Selam Abraham H,

            In actual fact, brexit was the work of the right wing populist party that hoodwinked the people with its anti-immigration rhetoric, job for brits, let us make britain great and independent again (trumpian), “no” to decisions taken in brussels on our behalf, the neo-liberal conservatives of the thatcher era who are still hoping for the survival of neo-liberalism and globalization, and finally, the fact that britain never considered herself part of europe but part of the usa, all these factors played together into voting for brexit.

            One should remember that scotland had voted for staying in the eu and the scots were against brexit right from the next day, because they new that it had to do with their sovereignty, and the many advantages that would be lost, unfortunately, their voices were not heard.

            Despite the fact that the brits are to lose rights in the eu, businesses are leaving the city of london and transferred to paris, frankfurt, etc, and the loss is going to be in billions of euros, and there is there is no way to close the door to immigrants for different reasons, still May insists on brexit.

            One important news coming out of the eu is the proposal by Jean-Claude Juncker, the president of the european commission, who said that the eu should create about 10mn jobs in africa in the coming five years. This will help curb the flow of migrants from africa, and i think that it is a practical way of decreasing the number by creating livelihoods in their own countries, and thus boost the presence of europe in africa at the same time.

          • Abraham H.

            Hi Horizon, yeah, Northern Ireland voted also to stay in EU. One of the major sticking points in the brexit negotiations is in fact, what kind of border to have between NI and Ireland,EU. Regarding the plans of the EU to invest in local development projects in Africa is very good; in that case the ongoing regional integration in the Horn of Africa, if it succeeds, it has come at the right time. Many youth could be saved from dreaming to leave to EU, and instead strive to make a living in their own homelands. If the regional co-operation in the Horn moves in the right direction, then I’m confident that the EU will be willing to fund bigger projects; but they need to make sure that corruption is kept to the minimum, and the money goes where it should.

          • David Samson

            Selam Abe,
            I called it ‘Scramble for Africa resources’. It is like saying, I do not want to leave behind and would rather catch the train with gold. The Chines have already boarded it with first-class ticket.
            EU’s investment followed that of team GB. The PM was ridiculed for her dancing skills when she had visited South Africa.

            As I said previously, despite voted for in, I put money on the bookies for the ‘Nays’ to win. All my predictions on each of the UK’s regions were correct, except for Wales. I never thought the Walsh would vote for no. This is a region of the UK which has enormously benefited from EU’s funds.

          • Abraham H.

            Dear David S, I think soon you are going to have a government crisis in the UK as the result of the messy process of the brexit; esp. the issue of NI/Ireland is a ticking bomb. If you have a new election then the labor will win and they would authorize a new vote on brexit.

          • David Samson

            Selam Abe,

            In a funny world of politics, Corby is a die-hard anti-Euro. He was one of the few people who gave a lip-services to the ‘Ya’ camp. He found himself on very awkward position: the majority of his MPs are Pro-EU while he hates the Euro projects for completely different reason. I always tell people who watch the EU’s debate from afar distance, it is not a simple of left and right politics.You find the labour party is as much divided as the Tories.

          • Abraham H.

            Dear David S, I’ve just read that the labor voters are overwhelmingly pro-EU, in fact more than 70% of them. So whether Corby agrees with it or not will not make much difference. If the people are given a second chance, they will return to mama EU for sure.

          • David Samson

            Selam Abe,

            Assuming a second referendum, we are back to square one, but this time, the anti-Euro camp will play it hard. As the project is increasingly moving to Federal Europe, this will even push and galvanise their core supporters to the extreme. The anti-Euro will never, never accept anything but a complete withdrawal from the project.

          • Abraham H.

            Dear David S, in the worst case scenario, this brexit thing may end up with the UK splitting into its constituent parts.

          • Selam Abraham H.,

            I do not know if you have read the things the president of the european commission has said. It is really very interesting. He says that africa should succeed in the free-trade zone it has launched and must be helped to create a european-type economic union. This could be a twin to the european union and the two can form in the future a giant common market due to their proximity.

            Chinese influence in africa has rung the alarm bell in europe and the eu wants to do something about it. The irony is that far right fascist parties and governments in europe, especially in italy, france, hungary and others, do not want to see african immigrants in europe.

          • David Samson

            Selam Aligaz,

            Did you also know that Boris was a well-known pro-EU? He studied Classics and speaks many Europeans languages. He was a passionate European. Ex-PM, Cameron, had put all his money on Boris to lead the ‘Yes’ campaign. He was eying the top position but mis-calculated his move, and consequently, the remainers have lost the vote.
            It is not a simple of black and white issue in which the Nos were driven by right-wings. There are many on the left who are vehemently anti-euro. The leader of the opposition, Jeremy Corbyn, is one of them.

          • Aligaz G

            David,

            Sometimes it is easier to look for patterns in the system. For example there was very recently a huge stink about Windrush citizens robbed of their lawful status. Then you factor in yahoos like Nigel Farage and opportunists like Boris. Throw in scary stories about endless waves of blacks invading Southern Europe then show the refugee camp at Calais (The Jungle ) just waiting to flood over the Channel and presto Brexit becomes a done deal.Whatever the cost racists and their enablers have seized the agenda in the UK.

          • David Samson

            Selam Abe,

            This topic requires 56 books to cover from A-Z. I will attempt to do it as a snapshot:

            British people have always been reluctant Europeans and have always been suspicious of the EU agenda. Remember, it was Charles de Gaulle who had turned down Britain’s first application to the EU in the 60s. In 1972, after a referendum, GB, joined the EU. Thatcher was the opposition leader but voted for ‘Yes’. It is used to be a ‘Cooperation of European States’. As the members had grown, it started to create some frictions among the main players– mainly France and Germany on one side, and Britain on the opposite side. Things came to head after Germany unification. Kohl of Germany and Thatcher had an open spat. Thatcher did a ‘U’ turn made it clear she was against Germany unification as she perceived it to create strong Germany, which in turn can dictate the direction of the EU. Since Thatcher came to power, the issue of EU has costed all ex-tory PM’s jobs and is about to do the same to the incumbent PM. The issue of EU is very toxic and will not go away irrespective of the final deal.

            I personally feel that we need to get out of it and see how the country fares as remaining in has divided the country for over 50 years. The Brexiters will not rest until the country is out for good. The people have spoken, and we are out. There will not be a second referendum. The only issue left now is how we exit the door: Automatic Front door, Non-Automatic Front door and Backdoor.

          • Abraham H.

            Dear David S., thanks for the historical background of the issue of EU between the UK and the other heavy weights in Europe. How weird can politicians be, like when you mentioned Thatcher opposing the unification of brothers and sisters in Germany to protect her own interests. But, unfortunately for her, she didn’t avoid the exact scenario she had feared as the unified Germany ended up to be the center of economic and political power in Europe. But I think, the pressure is building so mcuh for May not to accept a second vote.

          • David Samson

            Selam Abe,

            Another history on flip-flops:

            Thatcher was pro-EU when she was the leader of the opposition. When she came to power, she was against most of the EU projects. There was a massive split among her cabinets. The two power portfolios– Foreign (Geoffrey Howe) and Finance (Nigel Lawson)- were held by Pro-EU chaps. Towards the end of 80s, these two guys openly called her bluff and would resign if the Iron lady did not summit to their wills. She had reluctantly resigned but insisted that she will pass over the premier to her driver–John Major.

            Forward the clock to the referendum time, Nigel Lawson, did a complete 180 turn and became the leader of the ‘leave vote’. To add another spice to the story, he now lives in France and has recently applied for French Citizenship.

            If you are surprised by the Brit flip-flops, you ain’t seen and touch the Aussies yet. In the UK, we do back-stabbing while in Australia, they do front one.

          • Abraham H.

            Hi David S, thanks again for these history tidbits. After I googled Nigel Lawson, I got the bonus knowledge that he is the father of the amazing cook Nigella Lawson.

          • Dis Donc

            Dear Dave,
            You have fallen to the voices of the 80s labor bashings of Joana and most importantly to the Germanophiles all over the world, including Germany.

          • Amanuel

            Hi David Samson
            I don’t want to have a debet about EU here, as any one can google it and find detailed information, and hence would be waste of time. But your discription of it above is very simplistic to say the least.

          • David Samson

            Hi Amanuel,
            “It is very simplistic”. I did not argue otherwise. I felt guilt in delving deep in to non-relevant issue, but I cannot help it.

  • Nitricc

    Hi All; i just can’t believe what i am watching. the Oromo and Amhara are at each other. I have never thought i will see this in Addis. Ethiopians you are in trouble. bring the stick. Now you know freedom is not deserved but earned. You were give a full freadom and you can’t handle it. I sow few dead bodies but i don’t want ruined your Sunday. but you can see this, people leaving their home out fear.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eEKDT_6t9M

    • Nowinc

      Nittric,
      Addis is in turmoil while Mekelle is having love fest with Asmara. These are Hayat’s golden times lol

      • Hayat Adem

        Nowinc,
        Kindly, why would you say that? Please keep your excitment to yourself.

        • haileTG

          Hi Hayat,

          I hope Nowinc spoke quicker than he wished but didn’t mean it. I saw some of the news on the conflict and it is really heartbreaking at many levels. Hopefully the people step back from these type of futile and senseless violence.

          • Selam haile TG,

            There is no way to explain the things that are happening in addis other than what some sources say, who happen to be there. Addis is awash with money, and the troublemakers (ቦዘኔዎች), are paid and organized by a certain source. The return of olf leaders as free politicians is not a reason for disturbances, unless there is a sinister reason to muddy the political landscape.

            These hooligans are condemned by all oromo politicians, the oromo people themselves are calling for protection, the querro and young addis ababans are opposed to it, except those who are said to benefit from the situation.

            Fortunately, pm Abiy is a security specialist in a way, on top of his belief in democracy, and unlike past rulers he is not trigger happy, and up to now it seems that the government is not accused of deaths. The only deaths seem to be the ones caused by the hooligans.

            The aim is to force the government to use the known methods of the past, i.e. killing anybody who dares to oppose it, thus creating chaos and confrontation with the people. If pm Abiy comes to the point of using force, unless they are stopped by the local police and the culprits are brought to the court of law, i hope that the political parties will be on his side because of his patience and tolerance.

          • haileTG

            Selamat Horizon,

            You are right that the occasion to mark the return of OLF doesn’t warrant that type of heinous activity. In fact, what happened and is happening is something that can’t be condoned under whatever pretext. One doesn’t need to be certain political view or nationality or the rest to find it disturbing, callous and shocking. I think even if PMAA may be trying to balance many things, but decisive and intensive investigations and follow up is a must IMO. One simply can’t go that low in a country that is charting a path of inclusion, peace and solidarity. No matter what the view one takes, all Ethiopians must stand as one person against something like this. Very cheap, coward and retarded thing to do! Thank you for letting me to rant the anger I felt with this today.

          • Hayat Adem

            Dear Horizon,
            Who would have thought you would write this:
            “Fortunately, pm Abiy is a security specialist in a way, on top of his belief in democracy, and unlike past rulers he is not trigger happy, and up to now it seems that the government is not accused of deaths. The only deaths seem to be the ones caused by the hooligans.”
            I would have thought protecting the innocents from the holigans is Abiy’s job number 1, failing to deliver saftey and security of citizens is derliction of duty.

          • Selam Hayat Adem,

            You can say that if the killings continue and the government does nothing. As the police commissioner said, if they sneaked in to the suburbs of addis, where there was poor transportation and inadequate policing, and they attacked people when nobody was suspecting, not the government and not the locals, because they had a mission to commit a crime and cause chaos, it is not possible to avoid such phenomena. According to the police they were disappearing into the forest. If the government does nothing after these killings, then it has not fulfilled its responsibility of protecting the population.

            On the contrary, when tplf killed 200 unarmed citizens in the streets of addis, simply because they came out to demonstrate the rigging of an election, one can imagine the killings that would have happened if tplf is still in power. Not to be in a hurry to pull the trigger is indeed a merit. It does not mean the government is not ready to protect the people. One can imagine what could have been said if their were indiscriminate shootings and some people were killed by the police. One way or the other the government is to be blamed and condemned whatever it does, because that is the aim.

            Why is that the usa can not avoid mass killings? Because, there is no way to foresee all the crimes that could be committed.

          • Hayat Adem

            Hi Horizon,
            Hmmm… when you are blinded by unwarranted political love, all mistakes and cracks look just right and happening for a good reason.

          • Hi Hayat Adem,

            No love could be as big as your love for tplf.

          • Hayat Adem

            Hi Horizon,
            While reading these recent comments of yours, I was thinking of your unwearing fixation with TPLF. For obvious explanations, I don’t think I can ever nearly be more TPLF than Fanti and T. Kifle. These two are not obsessed on or saying anything to defend or support TPLF, let alone me. But you seem to be tattooed with never-stop-talking-about-TPLF. No body is. Even IA seemed to have ended his fixation after shouting his famous phrase. Now, the driver of the bus is Abiy. Please start monitoring him and support or criticize his actions or inactions.

      • Nitricc

        Nowin; No that is not true. Your TPLF thugs had a love fest with the Oromo. Yes the same Oromo who TPLF killed and crippled yet, TPLF thugs had no shame but to bend for the same Oromo of Yesterday. Do you TPLF thugs know what shame is? Yesterday, the dumb the Eritreans because you didn’t like the color of their eyes and today you are bending for Eritreans right and left and you call them they are your bothers. The same with the Oromo. WOW. Regarding Addis, it is nothing but TPLF work; they have said tinmand again, if TPLF are not the leaders of Ethiopia, Ethiopia=Rwanda!!!! change
        have many ups and downs. However if PMAA government failed to start restoring orders by force, it will ugly.

  • said

    Greetings,
    Terms of the agreement to be signed by Ethiopian Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed and Eritrean President Isaias Afwerki in the Red Sea port city of Jiddah remain unclear. Under the sponsorship of King Salman bin Abdulaziz, Eritrea’s President Isaias Afwerki and Ethiopia’s Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed signed the Jeddah Peace Accord between their two countries The signing was also attended by the UN’s Secretary General Antonio Guterres and Sheikh Abdullah bin Zayed Al Nahyan, Minister of Foreign Affairs and International Cooperation of the United Arab Emirates. as will officials from the African Union. The signing ceremony Sunday in Saudi Arabia also highlights the growing importance Gulf Arab nations put on East Africa.

    https://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/world/2018/09/16/Eritrea-president-Ethiopia-PM-reach-Jeddah-to-sign-historic-peace-deal.html

    • Abraham H.

      Dear Said, it is a very strange world that we are living in, esp. we Eritreans. We are being told that a bilateral agreement with Ethiopia has been signed in Saudi Arabia on our behalf. Yet, we are not shown or told any details of what that agreement is. What if the agreement is something that adversely affects the sovereign interests of our current and future generations? How could we be expected to trust, someone who doesn’t even consult with those close to him in the power hierarchy of Eritrea, let alone the sole owners of Eritrea-the Eritrean people?
      I hope that, since the Ethiopians are relatively well placed to know the details of the agreements being signed, thanks to their relatively functioning political institutions and mass media; that they dig into the agreements to let us know. I think the Ethiopian people also have the right to know and inquire about the content of such deals.

    • Consolation

      hello Said,

      I thought it was the same agreement that was signed in Asmara On July 9th that is going to be signed in front of witnesses and possibly guarantors. I thought that the Saudis as sponsors of the agreement have agreed to guarantee the agreement. There were guarantors for the Algiers agreement but they refused to guarantee. The Saudis are pouring billions of investments in Ethiopia and thus will be expected to fulfill their obligations.

  • haileTG

    Selam Awatista,

    A question to regime supporters: in what capacity is Abraham Isaias Afewerki attending the peace signing ceremony in Jeddah? Ok I will re-phrase, how do you feel about it:)

    • Nitricc

      Hi Haile, at least there is a young Eritrean for the first time ever. lol I have no idea.

      • haileTG

        Haha Nitricc,

        Wouldn’t you say the PFDJista who know the deepest secrets of the whole world should have something to say about this? This is the curse of blind following.
        Once upon a time there was a trader named Nasir. He was very smart by half and started to sell various merchandise by ferrying it on his donkeys by travelling Asmara to Tesseney. The crossings guards between the cities were very suspecious of his activities and always checked him inside out. But found that every item he had was legit and with complete paperworks. So, he ended up very rich and retired. One day, one of the guards who use to check him was also retired and meets him in a cafe. The ex-guard asks Nasir that everyone suspected he was smuggling something but what was it. Because all items he brought were legal but was making huge profit. Well, Nasir tells him that he wasn’t smuggling any of the items! He tells him that it was the donkeys that he smuggled.😄

        • Nitricc

          Hi Haile, hahahaha i can’t stop laughing. that is very funny. To answer your question; i have no idea but it seems we are going in to the right direction. Honestly; Eritrean never knew what is/was going on about their country. I think every one was worried about the existence and survival of the country and they never bother to know the details. But i can i assure you things will be changed and people going to start asking questions. I say this because that what i feel personally. I didn’t ask or question things is because the country was in danger due to the clouds of war. But now, i feel good and there no qeaution off limit to ask. Let’s see.

    • Paulos

      Selam HaileTG,

      Didn’t know he was there. The TV footage showed Isaias hoping on the plane [Uber] solo.

      • haileTG
        • Paulos

          HaileTG,

          Oh is that him? That’s a surprise. Thanks.

        • saay7

          Haile TG:

          A clearer view of Prince Abraham Isaias Afwerki.

          Your prez in less than 3 years. This is how the process starts:

          https://twitter.com/samueltsegai1/status/1041383875216322560?s=21

          saay

          • haileTG

            Hey saay,

            Good lord! Now we start a new round of regional power struggle between the young President Abraham and the young PM Abiy…whose side are you on…haha

          • saay7

            Haile TG

            It’s not the young president vs the young PM. It’s the young PM protecting the young president from the old Eritrean generals. When was the last time IA invited anybody to his house? When was the last time you saw IA and his son together?

            Answer: first and last time: with PM Abiy.

            saay

          • Paulos

            We’re scr*wed! He looks a lot like him.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam saay,

            Highly unlikely to work in Eritrea.

            In Syria, the Assad issue is more than a family dynasty. It is the survival and fate of the entire Alawite sect that is at stake. A totally different context from Eritrea.

        • Natom Habom

          selam haile
          remember meles daughter holding a fire arm
          future criminale like her father ,well she was also seen in the governemt arguing about her father legacy right ,why dont you look in your backyard first litte investigation Azeb ye qen jib ,emptied the hole bank and without a shame she said I am struggling to rise my children,በስም ኣብ ናትኩም ድማ ኣይኒ ደውጸአ ኮዩ ፣ቢቀትሪ ዝሰርቁ ደይራአና ።
          ሃቆም ኢንድዮም የ ቀን ጂብ ክብሉ

    • FishMilk

      Hi Haile TG. I really do not believe that it is connected in any way to ascent to power, as I know that it is not the case, but it is simply wrong!

    • Alfaromeo

      Selam Haile,

      ተክላይ ሃብተስለስ (ጀነራል) ሓላፊ ሓይሊ አየር ከሎ
      አብርሃም አፎርቂ አብኡ ተመዲቡ ስለ ዝነበረ ሓደ ምዓልቲ ከምዚ ኢሉ ” አበይ አሎ እቲ ዕቡድ ጸውዑዋ እስከ። እሱ ዕቡድ አቡኡ ዕቡድ ” and he was demoted and was sent to Semenawi keyeh bahri. I saw him last week in Bure running behind during the border opening.

      I wish I could pose the same question to him, if i ever had the chance ” how do you feel about it now….!?”

      Eritrean politics is grotesque

      • haileTG

        Hey alfaromeo

        You know what they say “the behind you kick today might be the one you’ll kiss tomorrow”. Poor general he missed the signs of the time. If his comarades could be left to rot underground, I wonder if it wasn’t him more Ebud to say nothing for them. Thanks for sharing though.

  • FishMilk

    Hi All. Given signatory events of today coupled with actions/decisions of PIA/PFDJ, over the past 3 months, you can consider me as part of the opposition camp, at least until such time that all political and religious prisoners (excluding those that have credible criminal charges which are minor in number) are released. Should PIA/PFDJ release political and religious prisoners as such, I will then leave the opposition camp in favor of reformists efforts.

    • Amanuel

      Welcome FishMilk.

    • Abraham H.

      Dear FM, what has been signed today? It is late afternoon in Saudi Arabia, yet nothing of news has come out of the event. In any case, I hope that the implementation of the eebc border ruling would soon begin. In doing so, I hope both sides allow the local peoples to have a say on the issue in order to avoid unnecessary displacements.

    • Hope

      Selam Commander FM:
      Did u read something different from what was signed and witnessed in Jeddah?
      Please update!

    • Natom Habom

      selam fishMilk
      I dont think its great idea to release them ,those were extremist religious ,that dont feel happy to live peacefully and harmony with the society , same as for the christian denomination ,they always finger point the cheik and priest as fake religion fake prophet ,they didnt want to register their fond or asset to make legal ,so if we want Eritrea peaceful and order we must not allow that to happen ,as for those politician ,,Eritrea will need time we dont want to see what is going on now in Ethiopia ,as much innocent you may think they are they would harm to get what they want ,
      they are no innocent ,

      • FishMilk

        Hi Natom Habom. We have signed a peace agreement and are no longer in a State of War. We now have an open border with Tigray! We are now openly letting Ethiopians (to include Tigray, TPLF and Woyane) inside Eritrea! As such, ALL prisoners held in Eritrean prisons, should now and without question, be fully entitled to Due Process, which is essential in safeguarding individuals from arbitrary denial of life, liberty, or property by the Government outside the sanction of law.

        • Paulos

          FishMilk,

          Are you saying that Tigreans should be denied entering Eritrea? Or are you saying that every Tigrean should be vetted and screened if he or she is Weyane sympathiser, then if the person denounces Weyane, he or she should be granted Visa?

          • FishMilk

            Hi Paulos. No that is not what I am saying. My point is that when we are allowing our borders to be fully open to all Ethiopians to include TPLF, woyane or whoever; we can then no longer credibly use ‘war’ or ‘security’ as a reason to deny Due Process to the thousands of political and religious prisoners who continue to languish in Eritrean prisons.

          • Paulos

            FishMilk,

            Good point. I agree!

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Paulo and FM,

            As they say a picture is worth a thousand words.

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1e3b140d61cc1c88d7256fc3f08bdc95f1738bb61174de46423176936f2fe64a.jpg

            This has to be the best picture of the year that I am going to flash those “Game Over” crowd. I am looking at you @georgi, Nitricc, Blink, MS, Gheteb, Dawit, Semere T. and who ever, PFDJ sympathizers who are dead worried trying to recover “stolen Ethiopian money by TPLF”.

            On the bright side, I am glad to see that people from Tigray and Ethiopia are all over Eritrea, shattering the propaganda of the two regimes.

            Berhe

          • Paulos

            Selam Berhino,

            በቃ ሕጂ ካብ ገጠብ ጀሚርካ ብእዝነን ትኪ ከውጽኣ እየን!

            Deny, deny and deny. We need to see a video goes the modus operandi. I can already see one of them knocking his head on the wall and saying, this is a photo-shop.

          • saay7

            Selam Berhe:

            This is not the TPLF flag; it is the Tigray State flag.

            The difference is: whether the star is upright or leaning.

            The TPLF learned from their older brothers (EPLF) if you want to run a one-party State, make sure your state flag is almost identical as your organizational emblem.

            That’s why many ገርሂ ልባ in Tigray and Eritrea equate their tyrannical parties with the State.

            The OLF guys are doing the same now.

            Professor Abiy Ahmed, who doesn’t understand the lethal power of flags, was being all reasonable and rational about flags and how the US flag has been changed 17 times. I think the guy will have a stroke trying to be rational with irrational people. Like our guys who didn’t know that peace and normalization meant: the first people to visit and be visited are Tigrayans who are as proud of their state and their criminal organization as their counterparts in Eritrea.

            saay

            saay

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Saay,

            I had no idea. I think the EPLF flag is very similiar to the Eritrean flag by the PFDJ government. The problem, in Eritrea, there was a well established Eritrean flag to start with.

            Berhe

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Berhe,
            You are well read and follow issues diligently. I am sure you missed this clarification that was written in 2001 and republished many times over. Google :

          • Berhe Y

            Thank you Saleh.

            Yes I read that article.

            I didn’t know there was Tigray state flag and TPLF flag and the only difference is how they titled the star until, saay said now. I thought they only have one TPLF flag and the Ethiopian flag.

            Berhe

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi BerheY,
            You had no idea? I am surprised because you are an avid follower of awate. Google the following which was first published in 2001 and republished many times since then. google this: Eritrean symbols of many colors + awate

          • saay7

            Berhe Y:

            Weriduwom PFDJ:) The current Eritrean flag was adopted by EPLF in 1993 (referendum) a year before the PFDJ was born.

            From 1991-1993, the green olives on blue sea was flown even at Asmara City Hall.

            saay

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Saay,

            ጠፊኡካ ዶ ንዓኻ፡፡ ካብ አፍ ኢድ ይዕንቀፍ፡)

            ወጮ ተገምጠልካዮ ወጮ፡ ህግ ናይ ኢሰያስ፡ ህግደፍ ናይ ኢሰያስ እንታይ ፍልልዩ፡፡

            ብኻልእ አዘራርባ፡ እዛ ናይ ሎሚ ናይ ኤርትራ ባንደራን፡ እታ ናይ ህግ አርማን፡ እቲ ፍልልየንት፡ እታ ሓንቲ አውሊዕ፡ እታ ሓንቲ ድማ ኾኾብ ጥራሕ እዩ፡ ማለተይ

            በርሀ

          • Nitricc

            Berhe; we told Eritrea a free country with full freedom to do what ever you want and thanks for conforming what we told years ago. Thanks for the vindication. Eritrea so free even the sworn enemy can display his/her ugly flags. That is the meaning of free country. Thanks Berhe.

        • Natom Habom

          selam FishMilk
          they driving but just for mean time ,the border will be close again as a sovereign state there will be formality after that no one will repeat the same mistake with woyane ,we wish though honestly but I dont know it will be crazy to let down its guard after what they did ,and they did to Ethiopia ,amhara oromo would be ok but we cannot differentiate between ,its illegal .for prisoner they are the same as what you are witnessing her in awate ,Asmara even the entire Eritrea people coexist peacefully,you can go from one place to another no one even will look at you ,people even dont argue or insult each other the youth the same with military discipline everyone respect you ,so Imagine you unleash our friend in this beautiful picture ,people tinted with grudge ,ethnic division ,hatred in the name of democracy what would happen ,isnt what its happening in Ethiopia ,Eritrean after so many challenge they dont deserve that ,

  • dawit

    Selamat all,
    It seems ‘Eritrean Opposition’ is busy in a blind fishing expedition for Trojan horse to bring a change of government in Eritrea. They are desperate to get one from PFDJ lake who could be a legitimate leader who will be acceptable to Eritreans. They have picked retired Minister of Finance of Eritrea for the job. They are using a fake book and orchestrated fake confrontation stories between PIA and Minister Berhane Abrehe, It is desperate move after the demise of their only major sponsor Woyany.

    dawit

    • saay7

      Hey dawitom:

      Did you see Saudi Arabia sent a plane to pick up Isaias from Asmara? Like Uber. Because a pilot took off with the presidential plane and asked for asylum in Saudi Arabia. And then another pilot sent to retrieve the plane also asked for asylum. Both of them in Jizan, Saudi Arabia.

      So, it is likely Saudi Arabia just put the word Saudi Arabian to pick him up on his own plane.

      What an embarrassment of a man he is. When was the last time pilots asked for asylum in another country? Can you think of another country that is not in a state of war where that happens.

      But do sing your nonsense; everybody needs their lullaby.

      saay

      • Natom Habom

        selam saay
        I am worry for you bro ,your sickness is getting worse and worse you need to see a doctors we dont want to loose you as you are the only best clown
        in awate ,take it easy ,there is yet a lot to see ,dont leave the circus now .

        • Hameed Al-Arabi

          Salam Natom Habom,

          Let me say honestly, you are the one who needs to visit a doctor. Believe me you are in a critical situation. This is a case of maniacs that demands a thorough study. If you don’t consult a psychiatrist urgently a break down is inevitable.

          • Natom Habom

            selam hameed
            honestly I was , I just asked myself and started thnking why did I let people brainwashed me ,I knew what was true and fault in my heart
            so I cured myself no need 4 a Doctor ,but you need a veterinary physician ,you bark like stray dog all the time ,i can help to muzzle you mouth and keep you in cage you savage .

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Natom Habom, Salamat,

            I pray for you to be emancipated from savage, cage and muzzling mouths mentality. You are still behind and this is for a critical reason. You know there are some maniacs who totally refuse consenting they suffer serious malade, but I think psychiatrists know how to deal with such kind of cases. Really, it is a great problem for a country when such a disease becomes an epidemic. Let us all pray to bless the people of Eritrea and get rid of this fatal disease.

          • Natom Habom

            selam hameed
            Amen brother ,no one can know the mystery of God when a sick lier and extremist advice you to see a doctor ,what can we say about you al arabi ,jock ,so when are you coming to Asmara ,we have peace now ,come no one know you are irelevant any way ,you where just online clown nothing else ,its not a crime ,the world keep moving ,Eritrean have no time for clown they ready to take the future in their hand ,

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Salam Natom Habom,

            It is a grave mistake to expect a move forward to development from guys addicted to failure. Jot down Mr. Natom, you will never never never make any improvement in Eritrea. You don’t have the capability and required skills to perform that from top to down. It is not wishes, denies and lies that develops a nation. It is flexibility and programs that transforms nations to developments and prosperity and well being of her people. In the past 28 years you produced total failure, and the sad part of it you repeat the same mistakes. This is typical traits of a mad person who repeats the same and expects change. When I request from you to visit a psychiatrist, because you repeatedly perform the same job and expect change from it. To be sure of what I am saying, you can visit what you have written before 20 years or more and you will get nothing is changed in your mindset. Can you tell me within the past 28 years when your god and his cohorts assessed their administration to the nation? I am requesting only one example. I don’t want to make hard day to you in brainstorming. If you don’t assess your work regularly you have to know you are planning to fail. You work without plan. Not planning is planning to fail.

          • Natom Habom

            selan hameed
            ok thank you ,I just invited you to visit home ,in one hand you beg western boss to sanction Eritrea and in one hand you complain ,unbelievable such denial ,those monster that denied development to Eritrea themselves shouting fool now ,this is why you failed ,your dark heart was known from above ,you harmed Eritrea the same as woyane ,none of you will be forgiven and Eritrean have no compassion for you guys.
            you will rot where ever you live ,you are already forgotten

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Salam Natom Habom,

            I think I requested from you only one example. Either you have to give one example of assessment has done by your mafia organization or you agree with me you don’t perform periodical or even irregular assessment to what you practice upon the nation. You guide the nation without scientific measurements and evaluations to hell.

          • Natom Habom

            selam hameed
            this why you should go and ask for yourself ,m just like you
            why you like second hand information ,go seeing is believing ,assessment ,scientific measurement ??,I dont know
            but what is to you ? you lobbied sanction ,isolation ,asset freze .
            why you even care ,the country had survived that the good think
            if I was you I will not play smart ,I will just be silent ,

          • Natom Habom

            selam hameed
            I really dont know about your assessment or scientific measurement
            but that is why m telling you to go and see ,ask for yourself seeing is believing my friend second hand information are irelevant .
            but what is to you any way ,you lobbied economic sanction ,isolation asset freeze ,so why you feel consern, the country survived ,if I was you ,I wouldnt play smart her ,I will be just silent

      • Mitiku Melesse

        Hei saay7.
        Saudi could have picked up PMA too on the way. It was much cheaper for Ethiopia which needs sparing as much foreign currency as possible. Meles and Isaias had taken Ethiopian ari line to NY to spare money.

        • Amanuel

          Hi MM
          Consider this. If Abiy wants to reurtn to his country urgently, does he have to ask the Saudi’s to arrange a plane for him? How costly do you think that would be? The only reason IA using Saudi’s plan is that he doesn’t trust any Eritrean pilot to fly his plane because of his treasonous actions.

  • ‘Gheteb

    Eritrea In The News: In Tigrayit

    Greetings!!

    Even as we are incessantly harangued that Eritreans are kept in the dark about the Ethio-Eritrean peace deals and that there is paucity of information coming from the Eritrean government side, here is the Ministry Of Information disseminating information not only in Tigrigna, Arabic or English, but in Tigrayit. Find below the recent piece for the sole purpose of demonstration.

    ” MOI Eritrea
    5 hours ago

    ርኢስ ኢሳይያስ አፍወርቂ 15 ሰብተምበር ሐቆ አዝህር አስክ ስዑድየ ሳፈረ።

    ርኢስ ኢሳይያስ አፍወርቂ ወርኢስ ውዘራእ ፈደራላይት ዲሙቅራጥያይት ጀምሁርየት ኢትዮጵየ ዶክተር ኣቢ አሕመድ እተ ሐልፈ ወርሕ ዩልዮ ዲብ አስመረ ለፈረመወ እትፋቅየት፡ ፈጅር ሰንበት ዐባይ16 ሰብተምበር መልክ ስዑድየ ሰልማን ቢንዐዱልዐዚዝ ዲብ መዲነት ጅደ እተ ነዘመዩ፡ ክላኦት ለሜርሐት እተክምሰልሁመ አሚን ዓም መነዘመት መጅልስ ቅራን ኣንቶንዮ ጉተረሽ ወርኢስ መፈወድየት እትሓድ አፍሪቀ ሙሰ ፈኪ ዲበ ለሐዱረ ዓደት እግል ትትዐየድ ቱ።

    ወዚር ካርጅየት አሰይድ ዑስማን ሳልሕ ወጌምያይ ርኢስ አሰይድ የማኔ ገብረኣብ፡ ምስል ርኢስ ኢሳይያስ አፍወርቂ ሱፉራም ህለው።

    ርኢስ ኢሳይያስ አፍወርቂ፡ ወርኢስ ውዘራእ ፈደራላዪት ዲሙቅራጥያይት ጀምሁርየት ኢትዮጵየ ዶክተር ኣቢ አሕመድ፡ ዲብ ዮም 9 ዩልዮ እት አስመረ ሐምስ ንቃጥ ለቡ” አዋጅ ሰላም ወምስንዮት ኤረትርየ ወኢትዮጵየ ከም ፈረመው ልትዘከር።

    ክልኦት ለሜርሐት፡ ዕላቀት ኤረትርየ ወኢትዮጵየ ክም በዲረ እግል ተአቅብል እበ ነስአወ መባደረት ሰላም፡ ዲብ ዮም 24 ዩልዮ 2018 ናይ እማራት ለዐቤት ጃኢዘት -“ውሳም ዛይድ”ከም ትሰርገው ልትአመር።”.

    • saay7

      Cuz Gheteb:

      The PFDJ has a pre-approved list of candidates, from which Eritreans choose.

      This is called electing from the selected. And then PFDJ counts the votes.

      So, that’s why people laugh at you and your org.

      saay

      • Hameed Al-Arabi

        Hayak Allah Al-Ustaz Saleh,

        I think we remember also ጉባአ ሓቂ for fake Eritreans and ጉባአ ሓሶት for Hafash. The same machine still working. No hope of change from these guys. They are really sick, they need medical treatment.

  • Selam Awatistas,
    Those of you who are interested in the views of the G-15 & the govt media campaign against them, see the dropbox link to interviews with Haile Drue, Petros Solomon, Oqbe Abrah, Berhane Gherezgiher, Haile Menkerios; & other pertinent docs.

    https://www.dropbox.com/home/His865%202018-19/Interviews%2C%20editorials%20and%20opinions%20by%20PFDJ%20dissidents

    best,
    Samuel

  • Natom Habom

    selam kulu
    what a nice day and our enemy tigrayan got some oxygen cornered in that worthless land their fate was hopeless thank to Isayas and Abiy forgiveness for those snakes they are breathing again
    and we all know how they say thank you ,by backstabbing as usual ,they already think eritrean and tigray are one and every think will be like before , they are wrong ever again it will be like before those who crossed are half tigrayan so its normal they will visite their family so I rather let opposition enter
    but the tigray ambission of bigger tigay with it grandiose 3000 history of agazian Was destroy and dead for ever ,Eritrea win against our more vicious enemy but by openning the border it give those monster breath ,we shouldn t as they did to us we shouldn t until they implode and gone for good

  • Paulos

    Selam My Good People,

    Funny stuff is going on these days. Eritreans are flocking to Tigrai and the regime seems to be indifferent about it. In fact, some are saying that, among those who are crossing the border are soldiers. Would you say, መሰረታዊ ለውጢ ይመጽእ ኣሎ ኣብ ኤርትራ? As in people are pushing on their own?

    In a separate news, Rwandan government released close to 2100 prisoners including political prisoners. Just announced.

    In the meantime, a comedian quotes a long forgotten General saying about “Center of Gravity.” ሰብ ጸውዕ ተበልክዎስ……

    • T. Kifle

      Paulos,
      that is the beauty of it. they are already in Mekele in their hundreds. I have no clue how the policy of the Eri. government goes with it. Anything can happen including releasing prisoners of conscience if they are to make it to this day.

      • Paulos

        Selam T. Kifle,

        Business people or refugees?

        • T. Kifle

          Paulos,

          it seems they are business people

          • Paulos

            T. Kifle,

            That’s super! Thanks.

          • Nitricc

            Hi T-K; how can one differentiate a refugee from none refugee among Eritreans? I mean is there any system that will classify who is refugee from visitor?

          • Paulos

            Nitrikay,

            Easy. People with a tie are business people. lol.

          • T. Kifle

            Nitrikay,
            Those in Mekelle, Adigrat, Adwa etc have come driving their private vehicles, shared buses etc. if people are allowed to go in and out of the country at will, there is no reason they settle for refugee camps.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear T. Kifle,

            Welcome. Although I was absent when you ruled awate, everyone missed you and they can’t stop taking about you.

            It is indeed good news, that the PFDJ can make it this far.

            Berhe

          • Blink

            Dear berhe
            He was not ruling awate it was just that people were more kissing what a TPLF cadre said . The lies was always clear and here we are now .

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Blink,

            Ok, may be I have exaggerated:)

            Berhe

          • Nitricc

            Hey T-K; how do they exchanged the currency things. I mean one US dollar is 15 Nakfa while one US dollar is 26 Birr. I mean they use banks or black market. I mean how do they do it? I have a feeling Eritreans are going to Tigray to buy things. it is cheaper there.

      • Nowinc

        T. Kifle,
        The peace is the result of PFDJ & TPLF being encircled. Sudan shut its border with Eritrea and PFDJ was in a dire situation thus looking for ways out – luckily Abiy came in a the right time. TPLF lost power in Addis and it was under tremendous pressure with all the mistreatment Tigrayans were receiving throughout Ethiopia and the Amhara zones in particular. Again, Abiy came in at the right time.
        Therefore PFDJ & Woyane are going withe flow not because their principled positions but because things were only going to get worse for the two brutal juntas…..

        • T. Kifle

          Dear Nowic,
          I agree this happened bc of the differing approach of Dr. Abiy’s leadership. And I care least about the two PLFs you mentioned

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam T. Kifle,

            I just wanted to go directly to the meat of what I consider to be the seismic changes in Ethiopia that occurred this past 6 months or say 1 year.
            There were so many events that looked so jarring and unpredictable that I looked to the future with a certain concern and apprehension. So far I am not unhappy, things are moving along in uncertain direction.

            I just wish if you, T. Kifle, put the highlights of events from a year ago to now, kind of from September to September. Just what you learned.
            Did you ever think you would see all these at break speed changes in such a short time. I am afraid to ask…….. what we would see by next September.

            Mr. K.H

          • T. Kifle

            Dear Mr. K.H
            I saw this request coming. Out of respect I will try to capture the major events in another post.

        • Natom Habom

          selam Nowinc
          really you believe that ?? if sudan shut it s border was trough the advice of tplf and who is in trouble now ? yes sudan is in politic turnmoil right and Eritrea didnt do anythink by the way ,
          to put tplf same to pfdj it a jock ,tplf is dead its futile to try to mislead as your anti tplf it your way of misleading again ,nothing is finish yet those scavenger are yet to return Eritrean wealth they stool ,those embarrassment of univers twisting history from now that they were always worked for peace ,who are they fooling Ethiopian people know better now
          but the good think they will live with the same people they hated ,divided ,tortured ,bit ,humilited for the rest of their life ,its enjoying to watch

        • Nitricc

          Hi Nowin; if you weren’t a Dush, then you would have known that at one time, the darkest hours of Eritrea and Eritrean people: The three Eritrean surrounding countries aka Sudan, Ethiopia and Yemen were in agreement to suffocate to death Eritrea. Even then the Eritrea and the people of Eritrea never kneeled and they came out victors. Of course you are going to ignore that fact and spit back your TPLF Az kissing BS. What a dishrag? Yes, your TPLF master is dead. his clipart of Yemen is dead and your gutless Sudan leader is in shambles; guess who is still only standing tall but playing in a regional role, you guest it! Never undermined the power of the people of Eritrea. I know TPLF blood is in you,sorry game over.

      • Acria

        Selam T. Kifle,
        The Tsunami is coming from every angle and is very unpredictable.

    • Abraham H.

      Dear Paulos, it is spontaneous expression of happiness, and the real meaning of ‘peace and friendship agreement’, and ‘an end to the state of war’ that was signed between both countries. The DIA regime was trying to hide from the peace it signed by ignoring the neighbors of Eritreans, the Tigrayans and Afars. But then the people were not willing to abide by the stubborn nature of DIA, and they litterally have broken the fence between them, showing what real people to people relations mean, that this kind of relationship is not like inviting certain politcal leaders of Ethiopia from certain Kililis from deep inside Ethiopia, while ignoring our neighbors. If you saw DIA in Zalambessa, he was really agonised by the enthusiasm of the people, and he almost run away from the reception before the people eventually took the matter in their hands breaching the border and embracing each other. That event in Zalambessa was the greatest embarraasment for DIA, and it was a real message to his iron grip over the Eritrean people. Even the signer Dawit Shilan went to Zalambessa to meet his father whom he was separated from for the last 20 years.

      • Paulos

        Selam Abraham,

        It was so visible that Isaias was pretty tense and cringing when Zalambessa was looking more un-game-over where Debretsion rubbed Isaias whichever way he wanted to. The rest is fair game.

        Ethiopia is stepping on uncharted waters and if the proverbial is to throw any wisdom at all, those who have seen the storm coming, are clearing the way and consolidating the foundations and pillars as well. That is to say, tension is flaring up where Minilik is standing trial in Oromia and One Ethiopia that includes Eritrea is the sermon of the day in Amara. In between, Tigrai is the only solid Kilil that has done its homework when peace and love was being preached in the wrong place and in a wrong set of reality as well.

        If Isaias made peace with a novice and a fool to isolate Tigrai, the joke is certainly on him where not only their blood cousins but OLF as well dined in Meqele on its way to Oromia.

        • Hope

          Selam Abreham and Paulos,MD:
          Let me try to be the Devil’s advocate as I do it at times.
          PIA has NEVER EVER tried to say or to do or express anything negative or acted in any form against the Tigray People but against the TPLF (CHIFRA or Janda to use his language)

      • Acria

        Selam Abraham,
        Medemer ma’let endezeh newe! Ere gena gud lifela newe. The next time you visit Tigray you will think you are in Eritrea; and, when you visit Eritrea, you will think you are in Ethiopia.

        • Abraham H.

          Dear Acria, it is a show by the people that they had no reason to kill each other, but because of their corrupt, ego driven leaders, they had to die in their thousands. These early movements of people across the border seem to be quite uncontrolled and disorganised. But we need clear rules, and agreements on the movement of people and goods across the border for the sake of avoiding unnecessary disagreements that could endanger the newfound peace.

    • ‘Gheteb

      Paulos,

      I think my notes and comments are pretty much inducing some acute DYSPEPSIA in some dyed-in-the-wool anti- PFDJ elements,which has seemingly prompted you to disgorge such a sophomoric remarks when wrote:

      ” In the meantime, a comedian quotes a long forgotten General saying about “Center of Gravity.” ሰብ ጸውዕ ተበልክዎስ……”

      I have quoted no less than three experts of the Horn region to buttress what General Sibhat Ephrem has appositely described in his extensive interviews which are available in YouTube for anyone with even a smidgen of intellectual honesty if they truly want to ascertain and unearth the truth.

      But what have you proffered to counter and CONFUTE what I posited that Eritrea is the center of gravity of the Horn of Africa? Nothing! Nada! Zilch! Cipher! Zero! Bado! Nil! Naught! DIDDLY SQAUT!

      But here you are unabashedly rendering your snarky remarks without even evincing a dab of shame!

    • David Samson

      Selam Paulos,

      It is indeed a breaking news!

      I spent Yesterday’s afternoon in close friend’s house. His niece is in Mekele. He was frantically making all sorts of calls. As she does not have Viber and What’s up, the only way reaching her is using telephone cards. She is now stuck and locked in Mekele because either the Tigray admin, or the Fed gov imposed barriers at Mekele, so no one is allowed to leave the city. My mate has been considering all options in trying to get her in to Addis. The border will remain open for 10-11 days, so all who want to leave are using this window to flee from hell. The sad bit is, the girl is a nurse in Eritrea. I asked my mate why she wants to leave Eritrea: she is fed up treating soldiers who are badly beaten by Wedi Kebede. She was horrified by the extent of wounded soldiers’ injuries and their crime is Mikublal.
      I just do not understand how practical is to surround the entire bordering Mekele with its neighbours.

    • David Samson

      Selam Paulos,
      Here is an answer to Girmay’s quest–Philosophy in Amharic. The young lad did the lady her heading, the why question is well overhead. I have not finished watching the whole video. He mentioned Socrates– the examined world is not worth living– and Hegel. I suspect he might be called Gobez Ebd

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IohusAB6zcQ

      • Paulos

        Selam David,

        I am not much into Youቱብ or videos, in fact I rarely watch but this seems to stand out. Thank you David.

  • T. Kifle

    ዓወታውያን ከመይ ትኮኑ?
    ካብ’ዛ ዓውዲ ክሳብ ሕዚ ዘይተፈለኹም ኣሓትን ኣሕዋትን ከመይ ኣልኹም(in no way importance attached to the sequence)
    ሳልሕ ቃዲ
    ሳልሕ ዩኑስ
    ገዲም ተጋዳላይ ማሕሙድ
    አምደ(not heard from him since the advent of the ENY)
    ንግስቲ ኩለን ሓያት አደም
    ጳውሎስ( ናይ ቅርባ ጋሻ)
    ኣማኑኤል ሕድራት(ፀዋርነት እናውሓደት ትምፅእ ዘላ ትመስል)
    አምባሳደር ፋንቲ ጋና(ንኣስምራን ባፅዕን ክንኮልል ዝሓዝናያ ትልሚ ኣይርሳዕኩዋን and seems the right time is approaching )
    እስማዒል(ዘይትንከፍ)
    ፃፀ(ደፍተራ)
    ናይትሪክ(ኩሉ ጊዜ ናይትሪክ HNO3)
    ዓብዪ ሃይለ(ምልስ ኮይንካ ድሕሪ ኪንደይ ምጥፋእ)
    ኮኾብ ሰላም
    ገተ(ጠ)ብ (ሙሉእ በኩሎሄ always right )
    ሆውፕ(could be in the Mereb River at the moment)
    ሰይድ(ብሕታዊ)
    .
    .
    .

    • Amde

      Welcome back..T.Kifle

    • Fanti Ghana

      Selam ወዲ ዓበይቲ T.Kifle,

      What a post to woke up to! WELCOME BACK!

    • haileTG

      Welcome T. Kifle!
      How are you brother…zeymote y’rakeb! Very great to see you around.

    • Kokhob Selam

      Dear ወዲ ዓበይቲ T.Kifle,

      ከመይ ከመይ ቀኒካ? And what a wonderful day!!! Man,you right in my mind..

      KS,,

      • T. Kifle

        ኮኾባይ
        ኢትዮጵያ ልትጠራ ደፍርሳለች።

        • Kokhob Selam

          Dear ወዲ ዓበይቲ T.Kifle,

          “ልትጠራ” Is that gold and wax? ቅኔ መሆኑ ነው፧? ወርቁ ምን ሰሙ?

          KS,,

    • Paulos

      Selam General T. Kifle,

      Welcome back a million times and more. You’ve been missed as much as the stars in the sky and the sands in the sea. I welcome you back with the following dialogue between the characters “Red” and the “Parole Man” in the movie “The Shawshank Redemption.”

      Red: Rehabilitated? Well, now, let me see. You know, I don’t have any idea what that means.

      Parole Man: Well, it means are you ready to join society.

      Red: I know what it means sonny. To me, it is just a made up word. A politician’s word, so that young fellas like yourself can wear a suit and a tie and have a job. What do you really want to know? Am I sorry for what I did?

      Parole Man: Well, are you?

      Red: There isn’t a day that goes by I don’t feel regret. Not because I am in here, or because you think I should. I look back on the way I was then, a young stupid kid who committed that terrible crime. I want to ask him. I want to try to talk some sense into him, tell him the way things are, but I can’t. That kid is long gone and this old man is all that’s left. I got to live with that.

      You see, General T. Kifle, some would say, Red is Isaias Afwerki and the Parole Man is you when you met Isaias two days ago in Zalambessa. And some would say, Red is TPLF and the Parole Man is Dr. Abiy. It is a matter of perspective.

      • T. Kifle

        ጳውሎሳይ
        ዝኾነስ ኮይኑሎ ግን ኣብዚ በጺሕና ኣሎና።
        ብጀኔራል ስለዘማዕረግካኒ ግን የቐንየለይ

    • Nitricc

      Ladies and gentleman: T-kifle is in the house. I have so many questions for you and I hope you stick around. For now, let me do a victory lab.
      http://www.animatedimages.org/data/media/193/animated-donkey-image-0070.gif

    • Kim Hanna

      Selam T. Kifle,

      Welcome, welcome back to Awate Forum. You were deeply missed.

      In the times we are living in, I have no idea if your current perspective in Ethiopia is similar to Hayat, Amde or saay.
      I look forward to reading you.

      Mr. K.H

      • T. Kifle

        Mr. K.H
        ሞት ይርሳኝ ረሳሁክ, Hope everything is fine at your end
        as to your question of my perspective on Ethiopia, am not aware of the current perspectives of H.A and SAAY and if they have the same one!

    • Saleh Johar

      Ato T. Kifle,
      Welcome back.. . As Berhe said, during your absence, your name was always raised fondly by many…

      Welcome again

      • T. Kifle

        Gash Saleh
        Thank you very much for the welcome. It is not like I stopped reading Awate. This is the only site where I enjoy reading the comments better than the articles and have been doing this to date albeit offline to others.
        It is just I felt duty bound to say hi to the virtual friends aout here

    • Ismail AA

      Selma T. Kindle,

      I join friends to welcome you back. Glad to enjoy your worthy inputs and benefit from them. For me, you came back at the right time we need your contributions.

    • saay7

      Selamat TKifle:

      Welcome back to awate.

      Thank you for removing your Weyane hat and not saying “remind me how this deal you are signing is different from the one we offered you in 2004?” What a nice Tigrayan gentleman.

      saay

      • T. Kifle

        Dearest Saay,
        Thank you. Actually, I am measuring the outcome with out knowing the details of the peace deal. Though we see jitters here and there(some very costly), it seems things are getting settling for the better. In the mean time people, including me, are grateful for the unexpected peace dividend unfolding. This seems to me the lowest energy state which many testestrones have relented.

        • Blink

          Dear T.Kifle
          Around 4 years ago you said this ,

          “As far as Ethiopia is concerned, the Algiers Agreement is null and void as a result of UNMEE’s kick out on ground of Eritrea’s unilateral decision.”

          So welcome from the Eritrean side with Algeries Agreement still in place in the Ethiopian government of Abiy who infact travels to Eritrea at will and get the love of the Eritreans.

  • ‘Gheteb

    Eritrea: The Horn Of Africa Center Of Gravity

    Greetings!!

    In the Eritrean national colloquy, the concept of “center of gravity” (ማእከል ስሕበት) was popularized, extensively used and eloquently expatiated by non other than General Sibhat Ephrem. In its military sense, he used the concept to describe the Nadew Eiz, Nadew Command, as the center of gravity of Ethiopia’s armed forces. In its non-military and geopolitical denotation, General Sibhat used the concept of the center of gravity to depict Eritrea’s PIVOTAL geostrategic role in the Horn of Africa.

    Any person with even the minutest information of what has been unfolding in the Horn region these past four months would readily acquiesce to the accuracy of the depiction of Eritrea as the Horn’s center of gravity. About the only elements who would demur to Eritrea being deemed as the Horn of Africa center of gravity are these dyed-in-the–wool anti-PFDJ Eritrean elements. I guess in their warped political views and in their antediluvian modus operandi of “opposing anything the PFDJ supports and supporting everything the PFDJ opposes”, they think that anything that puts Eritrea in good light is bad and anything that puts Eritrea in bad light is good, as if Eritrea equals the PFDJ.

    In spite of all the denigration of Eritrea, any unbiased and dispassionate observer of the Horn of Africa would acknowledge forthwith the rapidly evolving political and diplomatic changes in the region and Eritrea’s role becoming prominent and growing by each passing day. So far, Eritrea has registered spectacular diplomatic successes that in the past six months were totally unthinkable. Among the diplomatic victories:

    1) The Ethio-Eritrean Peace Deal
    2) The Somali-Eritrea agreement
    3) The UAE/Ethiopia/Eritrea agreement
    4) The Eritrea/Somalia/Ethiopia agreement
    5) The Russia/UAE/Eritrea agreement
    6) The Saudi Arabia/Eritrea/Ethiopia ( to be signed this Sunday)

    Yeah, sure, the detractors of Eritrea would hasten to revert to their familiar refrains and talking points and tell us that Eritrea is being sold to Ethiopia, to Somalia, to UAE and Saudi Arabia and Eritrea is no center of gravity of the Horn of Africa. However, many non Eritrean observers of the Horn region are slowly but surely are coming to grips with the characterization of Eritrea as the Horn’s center of gravity.

    In its today’s article, CTGN Africa, under the title ” Eritrea rapidly pushing to become key player in Horn of Africa”, asserted that:

    ” Geography is Eritrea’s trump card. It’s situated across the Red Sea from Saudi Arabia and Yemen near the Bab el Mandab, a shipping choke-point used by oil tankers and other cargo vessels en route to Europe and the U.S. through the Suez Canal. China has lauded the country’s position on the Maritime Silk Road, which links shipping lanes along the proposed multi-trillion dollar Belt & Road Initiative”.

    Quoting Saud al-Sarhan, secretary-general of the King Faisal Center for Research and Islamic Studies, it wrote: ” That makes Eritrea a key component of any power with interests in the region’s security architecture”.

    Again quoting Gil Winterstein, a political and security analyst based in Tel Aviv, it wrote that: ” If successful, Eritrea might truly emerge as a new and regional power in the Horn of Africa”.

    https://africa.cgtn.com/2018/09/14/eritrea-rapidly-pushing-to-become-key-player-in-horn-of-africa/

    Even the Assistant Secretary of State for African affairs has acknowledged Eritrea’s constructive tole in the mediation process of many Ethiopian opposition forces with their government.

    Well. Well. Well. Those who have mightily tried to paint the trompe l’oeil that Eritrea is being sold or is going to be confederated with Ethiopia, Somalia, Djibouti, UAE, KSA or Russia, I guess, have gained nothing but dyspepsia which is reflected in their half- digested (lazy pun intended) regurgitation.

    • saay7

      Selamat Cuz:

      Thanks for stating the obvious that Eritrea is in a strategically important location. The argument was: despite this great asset, the government of Isaias Afwerki has isolated the country and turned it into a hermit state. For 20 of its 27 years as an independent state. From your article:

      Eritrea is casting off its reputation as a hermit state and pushing to become a key player in one of the world’s most strategically important regions.

      Decades of eschewing international cooperation by the Red Sea state are giving way to renewed ties.

      So, Isaias and PFDJ are like the reclusive weirdo who locks himself up in his palace, then wants to be complimented when he ventured out to travel and meet friends outside his area but still refuses to talk to his neighbors.

      Reminder: he hasn’t addressed Eritreans since June 20. It will be 3 months next week. Some people are so used to being disrespected they acquire a taste for it. We call them government supporters.

      saay

      • haileTG

        Hey saay,

        I think Eritrea under IA/PFDJ is the center of gravity of the most abject misery. A country that was almost on par with war torn Syria on producing refugees despite being in no active conflict, no constitution, no budget, no parliament, no professional army, no accredited HE, no electricity, no water, no qiecha, no ayniater… where does such sense of grandeur accomplishment come from? How can a series of meetings and agreements add up to such sense of boastfulness? Really weird if not manic. Clearly, such a wondrous country wouldn’t be lambasted with sanctions and UN sponsored indictment of its leadership on grounds of well documented crimes against humanity. It wouldn’t be the only African country where the AU called to be sanctioned. It wouldn’t be a country with no significant role in any intl or regional platforms except on rebels, wars and peace deals. A non-rehabilitated manic seems to be trying to get out and about before finishing his meds, how long will it be before the next episode of breakdown is now the big question.

        Here is many ways to say “dead” from Monty Python’s Dead Parrot 🙂

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vuW6tQ0218

      • Haile S.

        Selam Saay7,
        Just few lines that goes with what you said.

        ኣንታ ሎሚስ ተደናጊረ
        ኣንታ ኣነስ ሎሚ ኣንጸርጺረ
        መሺሉኒ ነይሩ ጥራይ ተኣሲረ
        ከይዛረብ ተለጒመ ጥራይ ተሓጺረ
        ለካስ ተዀኒነ ክሰምዕ እውን ንወረ ብወረ
        ዘኽፍኣለይ ኣይኮነን እንተበልኩ ቀኒኤ ሓሪረ

        ኣጋይሽ ብኣጋይሽ ኮይኑ መራሒና
        መዓጓጉርቲ ይምጥምጥ ናይ ጓና
        ናተይ ምስ ኣሕዋተይ ሞጢጉ ቆራብትና
        ንዓመታት ዓቕሊ ግበሩ ተጸበዩ ኢሉና
        ተዓጠቑ ጥራይ ንጸላኢ ናይ ትሕቴና
        ናይ ቀረባ ተኳሲና፡ ኩሉ ጊዜ ቀጥቃጢና
        ወይ ጉድ! ክስዓዓሙ እኮ ርኤና
        ክበኣሱ ክፋቐሩ ምእንታና፡ ብዘይካና
        እቲ እዃ ይዛረብ’ዩ ንህዝቡ ኢሎምና
        ከቢዱና ዘሎ ገሪሙና ጽዕነት ኮይኑና
        ናይቲ ናህና
        እመኑኒ፣ ንዓኹም እየ ጠጠው፡ ይብሃል ዝብሉና
        ንሱ ከማን ስለዘይዛረብ፡ ግምት ገሚትና
        ጽባሕ’ውን ክፈራረም እዩ ሰሚዕና
        ኣፉ ዘኽፍቶ ይግበሮ፡ ምእንታና
        መልሓሰ ልጓም ክፈሓትሉ፡ ኩሉ ጊዜ ትምኒትና.

      • ‘Gheteb

        Cuz SAAY:

        Instead of addressing and tackling the main thrust of my note, Eritrea being depicted as the center of gravity of the Horn region, you went headlong to your favorite hobbyhorse of interrogating the Eritrean government or its leader.

        The issue du jour was NOT what kind of government Eritrea is ruled under, but Eritrea’s role in the Horn of Africa. Pretty much anyone who knows beans would tell you that the Eritrean government or those who are at the helm are no Jeffersonian democrats nor are they the darlings of the Heritage Foundation, The American Enterprise Institute or some other American Think Tanks.

        The CENTRALITY of Eritrea in the Horn of Africa ( the point here is that Eritrea was ISOLATED and sidelined for the past two decades) is captured by your ‘frenemy’, Bronwyn Bruton of The Atlantic Council, ” July 9, 2018, under the title, “Finally, Peace in the Horn of Africa?” wrote that:

        ” Q: What does this development mean for the United States?

        Bruton: For the United States it presents some challenges. In the first place, it is a magnificent opportunity because it will allow for increased stability. On the other hand, the United States has set up a kind of alternate reality in the Horn of Africa for many years, in which Eritrea was a “spoiler,” and was sanctioned, while the Tigrayan minority regime in Ethiopia was held up as a model partner and the shining white knights of US counterterrorism efforts. Now the Tigrayans have been thrown out of power, and overnight, democracy and peace seems to be spreading magically across the Horn of Africa—showing what might have been achieved so much earlier, if only the United States had not fought so hard to keep the old authoritarian regime in power.

        Neither the Eritrean government nor the Ethiopian people are likely to forget the US role in their long years of suffering, so Washington has some real repair work to do. In this one respect, it may actually be helpful that the Trump administration has put so much distance between itself and the Obama administration’s approach. They can try to disown the old policies and get a fresh start. But it may or may not work. By all appearances, Abiy intends to be a truly democratic, populist leader, and as such he may or may not be interested in courting US favor by pursuing Washington counterterror objectives across the region, at the risk of Ethiopian soldiers’ lives. That remains to be seen.

        Washington will also have to contend with a newly invigorated Eritrea, which is poised to take a leadership role on the regional stage. There’s a strong upside to that: Eritrea could be extremely helpful in resolving the conflict in South Sudan, for example, and could help the United States make progress in Somalia. But Eritrea is likely to seek progress by pointing out how badly US policy has performed in those countries, and by suggesting entirely new approaches that the United States may or may not find palatable.

        Eritrea, for example, has always talked about the importance of negotiating with all the actors in the Somali conflict, not just the pro-government actors—including parts of the terrorist group al Shabaab. That is the right approach to take, in my view, but something that the United States has fiercely resisted, and may continue to resist now, even in the face of an overwhelming lack of progress in resolving the conflict in Somalia.

        The bottom line is that a partnership between Isaias in Eritrea and a true democratic leader in Ethiopia will allow for the creation of a more authentic regional voice to counter American assumptions about the Horn. Washington is likely to find itself out of the driver’s seat at a time when it’s already worried by the growing Arab influence in the Horn. This is a reality that’s evident in the peace process itself: it’s something that Ethiopia and Eritrea sorted out completely by themselves, with precious little reference to the United States.

        To the extent that any outside actor is receiving credit for massaging the peace process along, it’s Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates that people are pointing to. That is unfortunately the “new normal” that Washington is going to have to contend with—it used to be the only game in town, and now it’s not even the biggest game in town. In terms of influence, it’s lining up behind China and the Gulf States.”

        Please note the salient point of my note again reiterated by BB:

        ” Washington will also have to contend with a NEWLY INVIGORATED Eritrea, which is poised to take a LEADERSHIP ROLE on the regional stage”.

        Even Herman Cohen has recently Tweeted that:

        ” @ AssSecStateAF is correct in his analysis that Eritrea can play a significant role in conflict resolution, development, and security in the Horn. It therefore makes no sense to maintain sanctions that were imposed as an act of personal animosity by one of his predecessors”.

        Now, then, will it be too much to ask to spare me all the hullabaloo that “IA is 90% of Eritrea’s problems”, “IA= PFDJ”, “Eritrea has the worst government in the world” and “Eritrea is sliding into confederation” and address head on the main assertion that “Eritrea is the center of gravity of the Horn of Africa”.

        • saay7

          Selam Cuz Gheteb:

          Ah, how many logical fallacies are in you post, Gheteb? Let’s count them:

          1. I say the Eritrean government is a murderous thug
          2. You say nobody is claiming they are Jeffersonian democrats

          And then you actually think you have refuted my claim? Or you are meeting me halfway by conceding something that was never contested?

          Then, the supporters of the regime spend 90% of their time discrediting experts and then when they find the outliers, like Bronwyn Bruton and Herman Cohen whose scholarship and objectivity is highly suspect, they quote them at great length. For every Bruton and Cohen, I can find you three with better credentials and longer connection to Eritrea who have reached different conclusions.

          What I wrote is to refute your claims that all these peace treaties prove the indispensability of Eritrea. Nobody is questioning Eritrea’s indispensability to the region; what I am telling you is all these deals could have happened 10 to 14 years ago:

          1. Eritrea Djibouti: could have happened in 2008, if there was ever a need to given militarily clash. Isaias lost his temper when Djibouti prez talked to the media (source: Wikileaks), kept on denying there was ever a conflict and that it was all fabricated, chose a mediator (Qatar) that took longer to mediate than the much more complex Eritrea-Ethiopia war, denied he had POWs even after SEMG interviewed escaped POWs, then admitted it, then 10 years later, he had a face to face.

          This is supposed to show the wisdom of PFDJ leadership?

          2. Eritrea-Somalia: brief version the whole world chose Option A, he chose option B. And promoted it heavily. And insulted Option A and the farce of the process. Then, came around to accepting it (Istanbul Declaration), instructed his media to stop talking up Option B and evntually (12 years later) came around to accepting the legitimacy of the Somalia government and his media now calls Shabab terrorists.

          Again, this shows the wisdom and farsightedness of PFDJ?

          3. Eritrea-Ethiopia: you know my point on this and everyday proves it. What he is conceding to now (negotiation, dialogue, normalization BEFORE demarcation) is a lot more than what he refused to agree to in 2004. Why? Because the Weyane govt are our enemies? Well, who did you sign thup Algiers Agreement with in 2000, your friends? And who you make peace with except your enemies?

          At every stage, Isaias and his government has been wrong. Just squandering lives and opportunities to accept the same deal or worse many years later.

          If the country had a free press or a parliament, all the points I am making would be made by people using evidence. It would be like being allp ed to tell your tall tales here with nobody fact-checking you.

          So, nobody is faulting Isaias for not being a “Jefferson democrat”. I am faulting him for a being a murderous bully and those of you who refuse to ask questions but cheer every move of being cowed and having a long history of being cowed. All of you ill-serve the country and in the glbTish Eritrea you all compliment yourselves for being nationalists.

          saay

          • ‘Gheteb

            Cuz SAAY:

            I read the usual lamentations that the PFDJ and IA could have achieved all the peace deals a long time ago and they have wasted all these precious times for naught. That is the oft-repeated refrain of the anti-PFDJ camp and I get it that is pretty much taken not only as an article faith but rather as the quotidian talking points of those who oppose whatever the PFDJ supports and support whatever the PFDJ opposes.

            However, what caught my attention and piqued my interest is the following quote:

            ” For every Bruton and Cohen, I can find you three with better credentials and longer connection to Eritrea who have reached different conclusions”.

            I hope that what I am zeroing in is not in the governance aspect of Eritrea, but in its depiction that Eritrea is INDEED the center of gravity of the Horn of Africa. I hope that you will quote “the better credentialed” experts in that aspect and I am not looking to read some hackneyed renditions that Eritrea has the worst government, the worst human rights records or its leader is literally unhinged. I am not even satisfied by such assertions such as ” Nobody is questioning Eritrea’s indispensability to the region” or “Eritrea’s geography in the region”.

            I am looking forward to those “better credentialed” experts to proffer a thorough confutation to what I has been posited in my note that Eritrea is a center of gravity of the Horn of Africa.

            BTW, if my memory is serving me right, it was the late Ibrahim Sultan who had forewarned the UN that disregarding Eritrea’s right to self-determination would lead to unprecedented political upheavals in the Horn region. [ I hope you are not going to demand for the source of such a comment like you have done with that famous John Foster Dulles quote] as I am quoting here from the top of my head.

            PS: Saud al-Sarhan, secretary-general of the King Faisal Center for Research and Islamic Studies and Gil Winterstein, a political and security analyst based in Tel Aviv, are not “Bruton” or “Cohen”, but different experts on their own right who have offered opinions that countenance the main assertion of my note.

          • saay7

            Hey Cuz:

            Lots of people warned what would happen if tyrants thwart the will of the Eritrean people. The most recent, and well documented, was Haile DeruE. And ergo presto: our 17 yrs of misery.

            I don’t think I am revealing a secret when I say that both Bronwyn and Cohen are highly compromised sources, whether they are getting paid for their advocacy or doing it on the house is immaterial.

            The “lamentations” I laid down are also spelled “facts.” Irrefutable apparently because you have no come back to it other than changing the subjects.

            I actually find it sad really when the “bitsifrina” PFDJ latch on to any muzungu, paid or pro bono, who supports Eritrean dictatorship because “it’s no worse than what happens in the rest of Africa.” People who fought for Eritrea to be different from Africa celebrating that it’s no more abusive govt than the rest of Africa.

            Oh, the conversion rate: 1 Dan Connell = 17 Bronwyn 🙂

            saay

          • ‘Gheteb

            Cuz SAAY:

            I am really disappointed that you can only cough up the name of Dan Connell for your claim that:

            ” for every Bruton and Cohen, I can find you three with better credentials and longer connection to Eritrea who have reached different conclusions”.

            Even if we are to believe that “1 Dan Connell = 17 Bronwyn”, where and when did Connell say or write that Eritrea is NOT the center of gravity of Africa.

            Mind you that I am not even quarrelling with Connell’s qualifications or credentials, but I am merely requesting that you provide us with sources to back up your claims.

            As the Tigrigna adage goes, “here is the horse and here is the field”.

          • saay7

            Cuz Gheteb

            Wait. I didn’t know you were still in your favorite campaign of proving something nobody questioned, are you still on the center of gravity thing? I am not interested in Sebhat Ephrems always derivative quotes which somehow always impressed you guys.

            More important: what is Eritrea’s center of gravity? That’s the question never asked much less answer. Hint: if you guys knew that, half a million Eritreans wouldn’t have been exiled.

            saay

          • Paulos

            Sal,

            Genius! Gravity doesn’t repel! It attracts.

          • saay7

            Paulos:

            And as any tightrope walker knows, if you don’t know the center of gravity, you trip and fall…and it is hard to know it, and that’s why you need to get help (a balancing tool.) None of which the PFDJ high priests or propagandists have a clue about:)

            saay

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Gheteb,

            Where is Eritrea if it’s the center of gravity of the horn in the lady IGAD meeting, where Eritrea joined back?

            Here id the list of attendees

            “Ethiopian Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed, Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni, Sudanese President Omar al-Bashir, Somalian President Mohamed Abdullahi Mohamed, Djiboutian President Ismail Omar Guelleh, and South Sudan President Salva Kiir attended the event.

            Paul Kagame, the Rwandan President and chairman of the African Union, and Moussa Faki Mahamat, chairman of the African Union Commission were also among the participants.”

            Where is Isayas Afeworki? How come he didn’t attend?

            What a man baby, this guys is.

            Berhe

          • saay7

            Berhe Y:

            I don’t think they ever got around to the agenda of voting in Eritrea. It is a little hard to attend when you are not a member:)

            But you can add IGAD to Somalia, Djibouti, Eritrea where PFDJ and its useless leader showboated and demanded changes and now are asking to return back, with no change to the structure of IGAD or its bylaws.

            But I am sure he wants to be complimented for it and rewarded too (he asked for IGAD HQ to move from Djibouti to Asmara:)

            Speaking of Kagame, today he announced he is pardoning 2,000 prisoners; Sudan’s president changed his entire cabinet. Meanwhile, in frozen Eritrean, nothing changes.

            saay

          • Berhe Y

            Hi saay,

            I think you mentioned already, the news I read said

            “IGAD officially welcomed back Eritrea’s membership, which was suspended in 2007, during the 33rd IGAD summit held in Ethiopian capital Addis Ababa.”

            Now you and I know, most meetings agenda’s if it’s reach that Hugh level in the ladder (at president level) it’s usyalky a done deal and the meeting is just for formalities, sign here, sign there, shake hands, smile and take pictures and go to eat, drink and socialize.

            There could not be a bigger agenda where all the leaders were present and I think, he was probably expected to be there for the big moment, specially since some progress was made with Djibouti. Sudan is Sudan….its not like they can’t make up and kiss.

            I don’t know, may be he was pissed off with what happened in Zalambessa, he had to go back and sensor all the news.

            Man up, what a baby.

            What’s the agenda in Saudi Arabia? What’s that they are agreeing to? With the UN head present as well?

            Berhe

          • saay7

            Berhe selamat

            Here’s the IGAD Secretary General (short video) trying to explain why the Eritrean delegation was absent. (It’s like the father of Dennis the Menace explaining away Dennis:)

            https://twitter.com/emmanueligunza/status/1040106389631328258?s=21

            saay

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Saay,

            Pure guy. He has to caught in IA blunder and that’s the best he can do. If it was a done deal, like he mentioned, then it would have been 15 minutes in the agenda.

            It’s like someone tells you that you have won a prize but you are not present to accept it.

            I would IA didn’t feel like going there and pure Aboy has to explain to them.

            Berhe

          • @george

            Dear berhe

            I honesty feel for you. You run out of things to say. Now you have become the “low level clown” reduced to entertaining not other people but “YOURSELF”. This man boy started and led to defeat your mama Ethiopia 4x. The last one without shooting, he just walked. Like a boss. Now go entertain yourself.

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            Eritrea was represented by her Minister of Foreign Affairs, Dr Abiy.
            Pay attention please.
            I suggest you get used to this kind of things where Eritrea is represented by Ethiopia in most important things. Your know like BIG THINGS! ( do I sound like President Trumpet)
            Slowly but surly….

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            I feel sorry for Abiy. It’s like the pure guys at white hours are going through representing Trump.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawna Berhe
            I also feel sorry for PMAA. Not easy to run two countries. I hope he will figure out something about it soon.
            I see only Sarah Hachabee representing trump.
            What do you mean by “pure” guys?
            I see some of his guys are awaiting for some quality time away from the White House. You know like spending time with family…

          • Aligaz G

            Abi

            I think he means poor. Either an autocorrect error or otherwise and more likely an exotic creole type usage since he’s used the pure form more than once. Not sure either way but the polite way forward must accommodate diversity.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Salam Gheteb,

            Suddenly you have come across the importance of geographical location of Eritrea. congratulations!! I think the world understands since a long long time ago (ዘመን እነ እነ) or (ኣነ ኣነ) please, correct me if I am mistaken, the magnitude of Bab Al-Mandab and Eritrea’s location.

            As all of us understand nowadays powers in the world are in a race of positioning themselves at sensitive spots. To accomplish their mission successfully require local instruments. Isaias is one of those tools no more no less. It is natural to see the strange weirdos celebrate supposing they are important. Wake up my friend, it is the location of Eritrea which is important not the Medieval Age men. You are very far from the promised paradise.

        • dawit

          Greeting Gheteb,

          In my opinion Eritrea is not only the “Center of gravity to Horn of Africa” but it is going to be the center of gravity for Middle East and the continent of Africa under the leadership of PIA. With the support of PMAA, PIA’s vision since his youth of 1970s will be implemented. But for people baptized with hatred of PIA are blinded to see the obvious. One has to listen to all interviews PIA gave to local EriTV, Regional ESAT or International medias like ALJAZEERA PIA gave over the years. PIA has been the leader with most leaders in the region. PMMZ and his Woyane followers the major obstacles to peace of the region for the last two decades, and as soon as they left the seen peace flourished in our region in two weeks time span,

          • saay7

            dawit:

            The good news is that these days all your heliography can be proven false thanks to YouTube and hardworking young Eritreans who are immune to the mystique of Isaias which has blinded you true believers.

            Here’s Bakri Humed (YouTube name Falfasa) showing us all the insanity and flip flops of Isaias in his own words. Enjoy. When are done with it (it’s the weekend) check out all his videos. Sorry Dawit but your Emperor has been shown to have no clothes long ago.

            https://youtu.be/UbNPI83rTG8

            saay

          • dawit

            Saay7

            I know unfortunately you have personal or family problem with PIA and have deep hatred towards him and Eritrea but all the lies and distortions about him did not prevent the overwhelming respect and love people all over the world from the beggars to kings have for PIA. All the fake news or distortion about Eritrea and PIA has been disproved in the streets of in Addis and Jeddah. It must be painful for PIA haters to observe the respect he is receiving both at home and abroad despite the 50 years of lies and fake propaganda against Eritrea and its leaders.

            dawit .

          • saay7

            dawit,

            How is it a lie if you show a video of the man in his own words saying totally contradictory things?

            I believe in freedom of worship and you are free to worship any god, including a sadist one, but the fact remains he is a liar and terrible at his job.

            saay

          • dawit

            saay7

            If you are brave and honest you can publish the original videos of the questions and answers instead of the fake cut and paste video. I m sure your comedian YouTube is good entertainment for all the blind opposition hate followers.

          • saay7

            dawit:

            Why don’t you be “brave and honest” and tell us what is the question that would justify your president saying of the country he has presided over for 27 years, “if not for the need not to be hopeless, there is nothing to be hopeful about in this country”? Go ahead, trying to apply lipstick on that pig. It won’t change that it is a pig.

            saay

          • FishMilk

            Hi saay7. Indeed 27 years is simply too long for one person (PIA) to remain in power. Eritreans deserve better! Before, I had thought that real change in Eritrea would take maybe at least 2years, but I am now convinced that it will come much sooner. PIA has made a couple major miscalculations of late which will greatly damper his ability to maintain his firm fist of control. On the side, I still have worries Adwa>Badme way.

          • Abrehet Yosief

            Selam Saay7
            Thank you for introducing me to this great kid.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Saay,

            I remember seeing him few months ago and I had lost track.

            The one video I saw was when he was describing PFDJ supporters.

            It was classic. dawit it’s for you.

            https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IYWv-_pn3O8

            Berhe

          • saay7

            Berhe Y:

            Oh yeah. The exiled PFDJ supporters who say “our heroes martyred themselves so we can enjoy a festival in exile”? Is that the one?

            saay

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Saay,

            Yes that’s the one. I think he is the Jon Stewart of Eritrea. I like his style, his fact based argument and his wit.

            Berhe

  • said

    Greetings,
    First the boarder war was coming by choose. They knew war was coming. They knew when it would comes it will comes with massive distraction and will hit hard mostly civilian . They knew there would be tens of thousand deaths and thousands of injuries. They knew Eritreans youth would be separated from parents for years to come , the elderly and infirm left alone. [W]e should not be fooled or we where taking for fool. Then comes the savor Abiymania Abiy Ahmed cocktail of two main faith His father was Muslim and his mother Christian. a former army intelligence officer, speaks all three of the country’s main languages It helps , Ethiopia’s 42-year-old prime minister and the new lion most opened new frontier with Eritrea, the good that come out of it at least families separated for a generation to pour across the border in tearful reunion is positive side .Prime minister AA in six months, after all od sadden departure of his anchored predecessor. The vast majority Ethiopian thirst for political change that his top post ascendance, and the startling use he has made of his new-found authority, have been greeted with near-euphoria. Mr Abiy is an insider with but with change at an outsider’s with idea perspective on his country’s very complexities and many contradictions. For his credit PMAA released thousands of political prisoners, it take courage and self-confidence to legalised opposition parties, free press and no restrictions on internet controls. He has proposed opening Ethiopian market for outside investor the telecoms and airline sectors to foreign capital, a change that would breathe new life into an economy reaching the limits of state planning. If PMAA he able to emphasis to issues manifesto of economic policy for equal and justice economy , that is so deeply disconcerting to those who sat comfortably for years atop the hierarchy of the distribution of Ethiopian wealth. This is a key issue will be bread and butter .Central command capitalism was to blame for making and keeping people poor and few rich . including a rigid and authoritarian leadership style that did delver goods at end to hungry masses
    May be PMAA during the business studies at London’s University of Greenwich and with a doctorate in Conflict Resolution, During this period elastically and spicily change must have happened deep reflection and intense soul-searching and upon his return close interaction with ordinary Ethiopian people on the street, he gradually underwent an inner transformation and a radically altered political vision. My assumption PMAA sided with poor Ethiopian and the wretched of the earth. where the in old system elderly are deemed no longer useful and the poor are leftovers to their destiny .If this the case then
    His political enemies were at a disadvantage in fighting ideological battles on his turf. To embraced a philosophy that would make vast people more richer and more free. The remaining oligarchy will worke overtime to undermine him. Who are rich, greedy and unscrupulous. Yet at same paradoxically calming in introduced unprecedented levels of totalitarianism and oppression by inventing and ruling through Communism. TPLF was with Eastern Communist camp. The rivalry between the two superpowers extended to many countries in Africa, as most countries had to attach themselves to one of the two camps this was giving on those days before the end and With the collapse of the Soviet Union. TPLF swished its political orientation to unipolar American policy.

    PMAA what matters is Ethiopia, self-tailored and claimed job title as the peace maker and honest peace broker and the aspirations of the Eritrean people are still inconsequential. No one knows from Eritrean side the interlocutors, wheelers and dealers, and so called saviors. and in which the fate of the Eritrean people is left to inept leader, incapable of thinking outside the permissible space allocated to him PMAA.

    On Peace note agreement headed by PMAA and IA with his adjoint minions , – is so typical of the structural deficiency in the making of the Eritrean and Ethiopian mind.
    So true and typical of Eritrean ’ reality are the following anomalies as best demonstrated at the signing ceremony of the peace Accords:
    1) Lack of rational thinking;

    2) Total absence of Transparency;

    3) Total Lack of Accountability; and,

    4) Total absence of any notion or form of representative democracy.

    Eritrean IA and his cohort mind, right across the board with some Eritrean being no exception, suffers from inherent cultural problem owing to centuries, rather millennia- Shaping of the Eritrean mind. Just watch the commotion, the hoopla that IA and PMAA. Worth noting in this regard:
    1) As follows of the signing recent peace IA took the initiative impacting the Eritrean’ lives and future without reverting to any duly elected Eritrean Representative body for review and ratifications. No, the Hell anybody knew what did the peace Accords contain; i.e. never debated or reviewed by any representative democratically elected Eritrean body. IA signed the Accords in his capacity as the virtual de facto sole authority deciding on the Eritrean lives and future.

    2) With regard to the commotion in the above, series of tragic episodes took place:
    In Conclusion, we Eritrean are much less developed to be self-reliant as we are doomed to oblivion and total irrelevance.

  • Blink

    Dear all
    Things are moving very fast , Eritrean contraband experts are in Ethiopian cities zooming in to cement factory and other commodities like coffee, taff ( packed in 10,25 kg ) , other things are being bought by Eritreans with big quantity directly from far away inside Ethiopia . Cement in Eritrea was 3000 nakfa for 100kg and very limited now it is being sold for 700 nakfa inside Eritrea . The exchange rate is simply wild . Ethiopian cash is being shipped to Eritrea by Ethiopians and this is creating pressure in Asmara . Eritreans living in Angola , Dubai , Congo and other countries are setting up shops in Asseb and Massawa . How will this work with PFDJ control freak eye is to be seen .

    • haileTG

      Selamat Blink,

      I think whether the current IA regime or any future regime, it is difficult to alter the situation of business conduct in Eritrea in the short run. What would be needed is emergent policies that would guide it back to a more predictable and easier to regulate form. Don’t forget that after 2001, many things were stopped in Eritrea. But at the same time, a lot of commodities were available in the market. For example, construction was stopped, yet many people built houses (some had it demolished – they had to pay 30,000nk for the demolition). Gasoline was rationed, yet much gasoline was also available on contraband (the weirdest thing that happened once a number of years back was that some ambulances in Gash barka had run out of Gasoline and had no choice but to purchase it from the local contraband). Going across the border, coffee was regularly hauled from Humera via Sudan to Eritrea. Humera is another major contraband hub too. So, my point is that the business environment we now witness has been shaping up over the last 17 years. On the positive side, if it wasn’t for that life would have simply grind to halt. On the other side, however such business practice undermines national Forex holdings and is vastly detrimental at state level. It kills off investment on sectorial projects in education, health, defense and public works (transport, environment…). It is a catch 22 situation that needs to be carefully planned and staggered for phased implementation. Corruption is also as rampant in Ethiopia and the other African countries as to interfere with state functions. The problem in Eritrea is that we depended on it far more comprehensively that a sudden shock to the system will not work.

      • Blink

        Dear Haile TG
        My understanding is We Eritreans have many years experience in illegal trade across the line and this is not healthy if we want peace with Ethiopians .Just ask any Eritrean in Angola and Mozambique and how they do their business is simply not straight market game . We are not like Djiboutians in this trade thing and Ethiopians know this , Angolaians know this so do South Sudan .For our peoples good and peace ,we need rules on the gate and trade with Ethiopians in a fair way . I was looking at BBC Tigrinya about the border crossing and trade guys making money for how long I don’t know .Now , Many trade proforma is being forged in Dubai and shipped to Ethiopia while the goods is redirected to Eritrea it is just like a new many Tessenei in senafe and other cities , this will lead to conflict with the federal government because of the currency disorder in Eritrea. Imagine the exchange rate is now fixed @ 15 nakfa and this is not fair at all but we hope the Ethiopians understand that PFDJ is also giving them free port access( as compensation lol) .

        The agreement between PFDJ and Ethiopia has to come out to the public of both people ( Ethiopians and Eritreans) so that they know what is being tabled . As I am writing this two people are setting exchange store in senafe and Mekele Debrestion will get a good reason to complain about this to Abiy .

        • Berhe Y

          Hi Blink and HTG,

          Blink, any people will take advantage and exploit if there is an arbitrage. This happens all the time, including on stock markets. Usually people would find about it soon enough and the gap closes and things become normal, without the government needing to do anything and that market corrects itself.

          The problem is the money supply in Eritrea and how the government controls it, contrary to free market.

          So when the two markets are not playing by the same rule, conflict will arise sooner than later.

          Interestingly, PMAA after the IGAD meeting spoke about what he said to the Sudanese leader. He said of the idea of combining the two markets, Re:medemer.

          So they probably like to go that direction but that creates a lot of problem because all governments do not operate in similar fashion.

          The easy and best solution for now is:

          1) Eritrea to Peggy pag its exchabge as that of Ethiopia (lower would be better for stability and avoid conflict. Because most imports are to come from Ethiopia)
          2) Eritrea to open the money supply to the people without the restriction.

          Berhe

          • Blink

            Dear Berhe

            Remember Red Sea corporations are simply not easy to deal , Red Sea workers know this game in and out , infact these people will milk Ethiopia if the two governments don’t do something tangible on state level. The Eritrean exchange rate will not change soon , in fact as I get the information some key guys are saying the exchange will only change after the potash production starts to be taxed.Abiy is a good man and Issias is not and the unfairness in this can be too bad to Abiy because the deal is not public. Markets correct themselves if only it is an open market where it has to follow the rule but in PFDJ world business is simply kill the caw and eat the meat and search for another caw the next day . I think the Tigrians also can use Eritrea as save heaven for their money if they have it ( very few ). Now the cement market is down to 500 nakfa at 21:00 o clock Eritrean time . I think this game must stop without any honey moon . We all know who has the book of contraband business experience and we all know we are without central bank free of Issaias and his 09 guys . This I guess is the only thing I worry about. Ethiopian birr is being exchanged at a rate of 1.8= 1 nakfa that my friend is not good. Tendino is being loaded on big tracks by this exchange rate. For some Eritreans I thing this a money rain but it will not serve the two people good.

        • haileTG

          Hey Blink

          I agree that it will be a big problem. As the trade volume increases, there will be large amount of currency swaping places. The accumulation of nakfa in Ethiopia will create problems unless it can be exchanged at the banks. The other choice would be for Ethiopian traders to find products to buy in Eritrea. The only way to resolve this would then be to have currency union with Ethiopia so that no one loses out. But this also have its own political problems. It is strange times to say the least.

        • Fanti Ghana

          Selamat blink and Haile TG,

          Currency exchange will eventually need some policy and regulation, but it looks out of control for now and I say let it be! According to a tweet from Kjetil Tronvoll, people are exchanging Birr-Nakfa on parity in Mekele and Adigrat already.

          I am looking at it as part of the celebration and it should be allowed for a while. Once the euphoria subsides, adjustment should be made slowly. Let people have a little fun until then.

          • haileTG

            Merhaba haw Fanti,

            These people will start with little fun then it is gonna lead to another little fun and before we know it they will get hooked up with one another and you won”t tell the difference…haha

            Asmara and Mekelle buses will run non-stop but the Eritrea side roads seem to need repairs as one was mentioning in bbc tig. Yeqenyena tray Fanti arkey..

          • Selamat oh Wisest Tekeze Hippo Fanti Ghana,

            Now trading at parity signifies their deep desires… ካካካብብብ ርሑቈ ዝመጸካ ጋሻስ ኣጥቢቢቕካ ሰዓሞ ኢዩ ኔሩ ውራዩ፠፠፠ one in the end has such deep respect for the market, the natural one, shaping and sorting out things naturally grown.

            How is the Haj al Malik al Shebaz, the Brother Malcolm X swimming pool project shaping up? X abbu AAshera መሳርያ

            ሓደ ነጥቢ ሽዱሽተ ሓደ ሸሞንተ ባዶ ሰለስተ,,, መጠን ብመጠኑ ወርቃዊ ይኹን ኣብ currency is concerned.

            tSAtSE

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selamat Brotherey GitSAtSE,

            “Fate smiles on those who stay cool” says the wise one.

            I love the “ወረቐት ወረቐት እዩ፡ እንታይ ኣፈላላይ ኣለዎ?” attitude of the masses!

            I can’t tell you how excited I am by these prospects.

    • Acria

      Selam Blink,
      I think individuals with money will be the beneficiaries of this open border. PMAA and PIA did something already: borders don’t mean anything at this point. Consider Eritrea part of Ethiopia. Because there are about 100 million Ethiopians using Birr and only 5 million Eritreans using Nakfa, it makes sense to make Birr as the working currency between the two [countries]. Eritrea is now unofficially Kelel of Ethiopia. This is congruent with the statement of our PIA : ” We haven’t lost anything and we got back everything”; ” Nobody is going to create problem with the people of Eritrea and Ethiopia, because we are one”. Hurray for the unionists.

      • FishMilk

        Hi Acria. Try to pay for Eritrean port services in birr before you celebrate for unionists.

  • FishMilk

    Hi All. The current opposition strategy:
    1) Assert that Assab has been sold or given away to Ethiopia
    2) Assert that PIA is sick and unhealthy
    3) Assert that Abraham Afwerki is being groomed to take over as Minister of Defense,
    VP or will replace PIA
    4) Assert that Elsa Afwerki is being groomed to become Queen of Eritrea
    5) Assert that as a Peace Agreement has been signed between Ethiopia and Eritrea
    that there is now no need for each to fulfill their respective responsibilities and
    obligations under such agreement, such as withdrawal and demarcation of Badme
    180.
    6) Assert that PIA desires confederation with Ethiopia
    7) Assert that absolutely no real changes have occurred in Eritrea over the past 3
    months
    8) Maintain that we have lost the past 20 years for nothing while asserting that the
    recent peace agreement between Ethiopia and Eritrea is the same thing as PM
    Meles’s Five- Point Peace Proposal
    9) Convince Eritreans that Eritrean and Ethiopian Californian Democrats have all the
    answers, though no strategy, to resolve all the problems in Eritrea these days
    10) Play Hootie & the Blowfish while chewing khat at least 10 hours a day to stimulate
    strategic articulation

    • Blink

      Dear FM
      Very true and the bad thing about their assertion points is that they think Eritreans are following them and wait for their guidance . It is amusing how such people try to match the game of lies . Remember these people were the people who were saying the sanction was due to not only Somalia but Djibouti too and now what they are saying is away from the problem created by the dictator and his pals . They never thought to make their point away from personality to policy of the regime at hand .

      The gaps between Tiwugah emo and “ sold , confederation and so many is simply a journey to the farthest planet away from the sun.

    • Fanti Ghana

      Selamat FishMilk,

      Let’s assume all Eritrean oppositions are guilty of every crime you listed above.

      What do you think of PFDJ or President Isaias who keeps a teenager in jail for 6+ years and counting for the grand crime of “getting caught leaving the country?”

  • Hope

    Hello All:
    Well,”,,,late better than NEVER,”
    Am sure EVERY Eritrean will and should, SUPPORT their belated call,
    But there should be a BETTER way of doing it.
    Here is my naïve suggestion:
    -An urgent Creation of an ” All inclusive, a Well-coordinated and organized Task Force” made up of Intellectuals,Professionals,Lawyers,Politicians,Opposition Figures and Leaders, Activists and Journalists, and other Stakeholders and community Leaders, Religious Leaders included.from all over the world,not just Ex-PFDJ Officials.
    -An urgent creation of a Robust, united and well organized and coordinated Media including Social Media to relay the message in question so as to rally the so called “Silent Majority”.
    That should include Local and International Meetings, Interviews via the same Media outlets–TV,Online / Social Media-Internet, Local TVs and Radios…
    .
    Still hoping that this “Meddemer” thing is more of Economic Integration,

  • Nowinc

    Hello all,
    Agree disagree with what these men have done they never lost their attachment to Eritrea. Haile Menkerios on the other hand is a useless selfish individual. He abandoned Eritrea long time ago for prestige position at the UN. He cut himself loose. Good riddance. The fertile land of heroes and heroines has thousands.

  • Acria

    Selam Awatistas,
    Is it really news coming from ‘ former’ members of the PFDJ who, I would gather, have a fallout with IA? It would have been really an interesting news if the statement could have come from the current members of the PFDJ, either in Eritrea or outside of Eritrea. On the other hand, I think Mr. Berhane Abrehe could have been given a green light by IA to make the rest of the world, especially his new partner in peace, Dr. Abiy Ahmed, to think that there is freedom of press in Eritrea. I’m a little bit very curious about the timing and the circumstances of the event. It could as well be a challenge to IA to dare him to do something stupid to his fellow comrade to make sure his peace initiative with Ethiopia includes tolerance from criticism of his own people.

    • haileTG

      Merhaba Acria,

      The possible IA green light scenario may not be as simple as it sounds. That could easily start fire for IA before he knows it. Because there would always be people who would follow suit assuming it is for real and then it turns real:) So, IA wouldn’t risk that…but again, you may be right. We just have to take it on face value.

      • Acria

        Selam haileTG,
        After ” we haven’t lost anything” speech of IA and “and we get Assab from Issu” speech of Abiy Ahmed, everything is possible. IA and PFDJ have been always secretive. They don’t share anything to their people. Anything that comes out of Eritrea has to be looked at different angles.

    • Aron

      Hi John,
      Very interesting perspective. Berhane and Isaias may be working in tandem. Likely.
      Aron

  • Natom Habom

    selam awate
    weeh ILEEEEELLL the deads are coming to help us ,
    we have an insider armed with book to destroy the regime what a happy day
    grand pa go fight for us ,and you ? I ll support you online grandpa ,with the spirit of
    fake news or articles you will win