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ERITAS: PFDJ Sues Veldhoven Mayor at the UN

The Eritrean government has announced that it has sent formal, ground-breaking legal memorandum to the Office of the Special Rapporteur, Ms. Shiela Keetartuh to be submitted to the UN Human Rights Council (UN-HRC) at the next meeting. The 22-paged memorandum’s main objective is to take the decisions of the Mayor of Veldhoven, Holland and the Judge who rejected the complaint of YPFDJ to UN Commission of Human Rights in Geneva (UN HRC). The Memo further requests the UN HRC to put an end to impunity by bringing the perpetrators of the heinous crimes to International Criminal Court (ICC.) The memorandum invokes numerous provisions form the United Nations Human Rights Declaration (UDHR) and the UN covenant on civil and political rights.

Ms. Sheila Keetrtuth formally accepted the memorandum on the behalf of the office of the Special Rapporteur.

The memorandum sent to the media before 20:00 mentions a litany of egregious violations of human rights against the leadership and fellowship of the Eritrea’s ruling party, the Popular Front for Democracy and Justice, (PFDJ.) Some in the prominent in the list are:-

Freedom of Speech

According to Article 19, Mr. Yemane Gebreab:“has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.” Mr. Yemane Gebreab was denied to the right to address his audience violating his God-given right of speech as enshrined in the UDHR article. Mr. Gebreab was expected to give a three hours and forty-minute minutes lecture instructing the membership of YPDJ in Europe on wide-range topics that include:-

  1. How to successfully establish espionage rings among Eritrean diaspora communities that has direct and efficient link with Eritrean security and intelligence officials.
  2. How to successfully harass, intimidate and threaten Eritreans in Europe into worshiping the President of Eritrea, Isaias Afeworki.
  3. How to recruit and train committed membership of ‘Eri-blood’ gangs and train them as commando paratroopers in Ala to be deployed at moment’s notice following Eritrean consular attaches who is also an intelligence official,
  4. How to successfully monitor, infiltrate and sabotage activities, demonstrations organized by anti- Eritrean elements working at the behest of foreign interests.
  5. How to successfully wire donation and funds, undetected, to the Eritrean security and military coffers in direct contravention of the UN and European sanctions against Eritrea.
  6. How to successfully mingle and support Ethiopian opposition forces who maintain military bases inside Eritrea.

A reporter asked an insider who participated in perfecting the memorandum about the possible illegality of Mr. Gebreab’s lecture. The insider was quick to reply, ‘The international legal instruments ONLY mention the right. They are quite silent on what one uses these rights for’ He added, ‘right is right.’

In the formal memo, it is not clear whether Mr. Yemane Gebreab is identified as a private citizen or as a government official.  The phrase ‘private citizen of the world’ was deleted twice by visible yellow marker, followed by ‘high level advisor to President in matters of all decisions, especially arrests, disappearances and assassinations’.

Moreover, the memo also mentions violation of ‘the right to freedom of assembly or association (UDHR Art. 20 (1). The members of young PFDJ who were evicted from the hall at 7:59 PM argued that they have the right to freedom of assembly or association to support full heartedly the ‘uniquely tyrannical regime in Eritrea’.

Ms. Sheila Keetartuth who studied the memorandum, made an amendment to the said right of the YPFDJ. She advised the Eritrean government to rather invoke Art. 18 of UDHR ‘the right to freedom of religion, faith or worship’ in community with others and in public…to manifest one’s religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.” The government has accepted the amendment.

The insider now says the government fully and enthusiastically endorses the mandate of Special Rapporteur. Indeed, in the cover letter to the memorandum, Ms. Sheila Keetaruth, is referred “as a world-renown expert in Eritrean issues with a wealth of experience”, and “extraordinary jurist”.

The memo shows the judge remained unnamed and when asked, the insider simply retorted, ‘Mish Aleka eti Dagna dyu gele.’

Eritrea now supports the ICC calling the Court and the Office of Rapporteur as, ‘the only noble, legal instruments against neo-colonialists’, such as the Mayor of Veldhoven and ‘eti dagna’. Furthermore, the document rebukes African leaders for their “retrograde attitude towards international accountability mechanisms aimed at ending impunity for worst crimes and towards establishing rule of law”

On un/related news, a bitter misunderstanding has arisen among animal activists on the usage of ‘monkey’ in reference to Yemane Gebreab. Some wanted to combat ‘inappropriate’ use of the term as ‘in-animal identity theft’. Other activists chose such a method couldn’t work as now in the social media ‘monkey’ is almost synonymous with Yemane, especially after the debacle at Veldhoven. Now that UN HRC is going to take the matter and possible referral to ICC, these activists chose rather for change of name for the monkeys. When asked any preferred name for the primates, their spokesperson, said, “Any other name. Anything.”


–This media briefing was reported while you were sleeping.

They say comedy comes of pain; this satire from deep pain. It is small gift for ALL Justice Seekers of Holland for challenging and winning against the enemy of Eritrea, Yemane Gebreab and his PFDJ stooges.

Ghezae Hagos, Canada.

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  • Bahri Negasi

    ሰላማት ዓወታውያን

    መንግስቲ ኤርትራ ይፍለጦ ! ደለይቲ ፍትሒ (ደለይቲ ኣከለጉዛይ) ምስ ዓጠቑን ምስ ተሓባበሩን ጠጠው ዘብሎም ከም ዘየለ።ካብ ቃኘው ጀሚሮም ኣብ ሞንጎኦም ሓበላ ዘየእትዉ ሓርበኛታት እዮም።መንግስቲ ህግደፍ ደለይቲ ፍትሒ (ደለይቲ ኣከለጉዛይ) ከይቃወምዎ እንድሕር ደልዩ, ዋላ ዝገደደ ቀታሊ ግን ወዲ ኣውራጅኦም ዝኾነ ፣ከም ዘምህረት ዝኣመሰለ ይስደድ ።ወዲ ኣውራጅኦም ዘይቃወሙ ሓርበኛታት እዮም።ትዝክሩ እንተዄንኩም ኣብ ሲናይ ሓንቲ ንሓደ ሰረወታይ ዝተመርዓወት ጓል ኣከለጉዛይ እቶም ጨወይቶም ገንዘብ ምስ ሓተቱ ፣ደቂ ኣውራጅኣ ነቲ ሰረወታይ ንብዓል ቤታ ገዲፎም ንዕኣ ጥራይ ገንዘብ ኣዋጺኦምላ፣ ንሳ ግን ብዘይ ብዓል ቤተይ ኣይፍታሕን ስለ ዝበለት ,ንሓፍቶም ከድሕኑ መታን ንዕኡ እውን ከይፈተዉ ኣዋጺኦሙሉ፣ ስለዚ ህግደፍ ነዞም ሓርበኛታት ዝኾኑ ደለይቲ ፍትሒ (ደለይቲ ኣከለጉዛይ) ብናቶም ጌሩ ክኣትዎም ኣለዎ።

  • Dis Donc

    Dear SAAY,
    You may notice that I, not only I do not pay attention around here, but also absent for the most part. However, I had no idea that you were going through all this. I am sorry to learn all these just now from this forum. Please remember that you are not alone in this fight. While most of the worlds population grapple with nature made problems; ours is man made. That is what hurts. I know it should not be this way but we are where we are because we messed up. And big time, at that.

    I don’t know how good you are in French but Ginette Reno sings about the ups and downs of life as follows.
    La vie
    C’est fait de tout c’est fait de rien
    C’est la chanson du quotidien
    C’est un sourire ou une larme
    La vie
    C’est un oiseau qui monte au ciel
    C’est un orage, un arc-en-ciel
    Des yeux d’enfants qui vous désarment
    La vie
    C’est la montée d’un long chemin
    À faire à deux, main dans la main
    Jusqu’au grand soir où tout s’enflamme

  • MS

    Hello everyone
    By now, I know I am not breaking any new news. I was hoping someone would break the news to the forum, but I understand it’s sensitivity considering PFDJ’s arbitrary mode of justice. Once I called a friend to express my happiness that he was released after 3 years without any charges. The friend said “ezi’as entetterfeni” which would mean “I wish if you did not call to express your happiness.” Having been familiar with Eritrean realities, I knew what he meant and ended my call. Some time later when we got secure line, he apologized profusely at the remark he had made and explained that the PFDJs are so childish and hell bent on ensuring their total control over you that they literally change their mind if they read that their decision to release someone was making headlines. So, it is reasonable for folks to be cautious in sharing the happy moment. You never know it’s PFDJ. SheiK AbdulraHman, believed to be in his 90s, is the grandfather of Cyham Abdu, who was arrested at age 15, and continues to languish in PFDJ’s prison system for five years without formal charges the family is aware of. We celebrated her birthday together. We wished her a Happy Birthday. May be our prayers were heard, may be our good gestures were noticed. May be this is an omen that will usher the release of Cyham and her uncle. SheK Abdu is the father of our Saleh Younis. I extend my best wishes to the family and to all fighters for justice.
    Eritrea should be the only country where a 90 years-old man becomes a national threat. Eritrea should be the only country where a 15 years-old girl, who tried sneaking out of the country in search of her parents and siblings, becomes a national security threat. At this time and age, Eritrea is possibly the only country which can incarcerate you for years without presenting you to a judge or giving you any reason why it is arresting you; it is a country that may keep you in its unmarked prisons without the sense of obligation to notify your loved ones; a country that can just put you away until you die; a country that if it decides to release you, does not feel obliged to tell you why it has kept you away for years; and worse, a country that warns you not to talk about your prison accounts. An injustice is inflicted upon you by the same authorities who should have protected you from injustice, and then you are warned not to complain or even talk about the injustice that has been exacted upon you. That’s the justice system of Eritrea. May be that’s why people are so cautious. You never know, these goons are so resentful that they could return the old man to the prison if people make celebratory notes condemning PFDJ. But, I believe, the old and wise man would want us to tell his story. He has nothing to lose, anyway. PFDJ has already put him through hellish experience considering his age.
    The reason why I (we) talk about this family is not for its prominence, but for the reason that its experience represents many Eritreans. A teen-age girl imprisoned without legal representation and family support, her grandfather, in his eighties (now in his nineties), and her middle-aged uncle imprisoned. It’s a matter of three generations. All of them were not formally charged and presented in a court of law; all of them were denied family contacts; and all of them will one day be released without being given any reason as to why they were languishing in the prisons. All of them will be told not to tell anyone about their experience in the prison and NOT to complain about their incarceration. They will be told that they should feel happy; that they should express their gratitude to their thoughtful government for releasing them, and not to say anything bad about that “thoughtful government”. In reality, that’s the story of Eritrea. There is a big difference between the number that get arrested and the number that get released. So, if you are among the few who get released, well, it’s just natural to suck it up and move on. We are that low folks. Put aside your patriotic sloganeering; that’s the reality of our country of today, thanks to PFDJ. A country that has paid so much to unseat injustice seems to have erected the mother of all injustices. We need to wake up. This is not about an issue of supporting or opposing the regime; this is about basic human dignity. May the grandfather have peace in the rest years of his life, and may God give him a productive longivity enough to be able to see his family, and the rest families of Eritrean prisoners of conscience get a sense of “closure” to the untold stories of injustices they and many others have gone through.

    • Ismail AA

      Dear Mahmoud and the rest,
      Thank you for your wonderful comments. This is a happy afternoon (it is 14:00 p.m. where I live); I just logged in and saw your post that heralded a happy piece of news. I cannot add a word to what you wrote; I know every word came from the bottom of your heart. The only words I can add are: may the grandfather of Ciham be graced with healthy and longer live.
      Heartfelt felicitation to the family of Sheikh Abdulrahman.

  • Hayat Adem

    For Gheteb in Particular,
    The following statement of yours inspired my reaction note, to follow the quote from you.
    You said: “” If it was not for the genius of Sawa ( thanks to the farsightedness of His Excellency President Isaias Afwerki), Eritrea would have turned into the play pen for the evil agendas of the Weyanes and their Western patrons. Sawa foiled and is still thwarting all of the Weyan’s machinations.””

    Gheteb, your cultish fanatacism knows no limit. Your guy turned Eritrea to an open prison. But you still worship him. He locked journalists and shat all private media. You still worship him. He pushed the country to wars that were unwinnable, unnecessary and avoidable, and put Eritrea pay dearly in blood and gold. You still love him. In his crazy and nonstop adeventuresome exercise, and for the heck of it, he ventured into territories that have nothing to do with Eritrea’s national interest. As a direct consequence, Eritrea’s image bled, became isolated, stigmatized and pariah state. You still loinize the man – the man tall in height but tails in wisdom. Following his seige mindset and pulses, he implmented a blanket securitization and militarization of the country, driving citizens in the 100s of thousands out of the country in just a couple of decades. You are still with him. What is it he hasn’t done so far in order to be rejected by a normally thinking Eritrean?! Aren’t you one? Wasn’t the entire purpose of Ghedli and 30yrs of war, including the Nadew one, to do and live better! There is nothing more important material to bring you here so that you can open your eyes and be persuaded to question the character and intents of the man, fairly and solely based on his records and the clossal consequences of his short sightedness and jumping gun policy. As a piece of human being, I also think he is psychophatic, cruel, and criminal minded.

    Let me add a few new info that will make you do that crazy belly laughing, or was it bellyaching? Your pick…
    1) Betwen 1991 and 1998, IA made more than a dozen of trips to Tigray, Meqele, mostly by car. No matter which way he crossed over, (few times via Adiquala, once via OmHajjer,, mostly through Zalanbessa) he never passed without visiting Aksum. DID I SAY NEVER? Yes, never. All the time he visited Axum, he was interested in going to only one place- to the oblisks. Every time he is there, the ritual was the same. He went and idilled himself for half to an hr observing the stones and drove down south. Gheteb, given your Adulisean haTewqeTew, and your unmeasured love for this guy, this info will tear you apart. You can go ahead and belly laugh it out loud or belly ache it out quiet or reject the factuality of the info. Go for whatever treats your health better. Why was Nisu so much obsessed with the stones? No body has the answer except Nisu himself or psychoanalysts. But different supra dictators are possessed by different obsessions. Hitler’s was similar to Nisu’s, architecture.

    2) This one is funny and very unusual. haleqa Tsegay Berhe of Tigray had to manage an awkward incidence that involved IA. Seriously. Again, Nisu was driving to Meqele. Sibhat E was with him. Haleqa had to intercept and recieve him at Adigrat. But they had to drive to Axum, the ritual site for Nisu as usual. Then from Axum to Meqele via Tembien. Passing by Ras Alula’s village, Allula became a topic. Sibhat E. commented belittljng and bad mouthing Alula. Suddenly, Nisu was so furious, I mean furious like a volcanoe, and was almost on the throats of SE. “aAffaf, guHaaf, ‘tay adekha TiflToleka bizAEba Alula!” At first, SE tried to run a par tone and stood his ground first. But the fury of Nisu escalated even more. And Aboy Haleqa was at a loss what to do to calm Nusu and all in the big car. But good for him, SE eventually sheeped in and yeilded way. You see, heroes respect heroes, I mean wedi Efrem respects Nisu:)

    3) Gheteb, I will share with you about a content of a letter from Mengistu dierectly to IA through an Israeli betweener right after the successful operation of SriHit Fenqil and how IA reacted to it; and something happened at the outskirts of Asmara, at a place where IA frequented when he is in adulterious mood and more of this on demand… dont want to impose info, you see. I care about you..

    • tes

      Selam Hayat Adem,

      I was thinking of you to share something and here it is:

      At this time I am thinking a lot about Yosief Gebrehiwet (YG). Still having some reservations, I am appreciating his open mind that had a courage to break the chains of nationalism and nationalist sentiments. I want to have a converse with him. His wisdom is needed to re-shape the mind of Liberal Democrats.

      tes

      • Abi

        Hi Tes
        Years back you promised us an article that will potentially dismantle YG and the chauvinist Saay7. I said I will give you ” ten dog years ” to come up with that earth shattering article.
        Fast forward three human years, you not only dropped the article but you want to sit with the Great Thinker to get a one to one tutorial.
        What a change of heart!
        YG is a great mind. You missed a great moment when he was a visiting professor at Awate some years back.

        • tes

          Selam Abi,

          Things are moving fast. I did my share to dismantle YG’s anti-Ghedli hypothesis. Now I need him for a different reason. I think we did an exchange about saay7.

          tes

          • Abi

            Hi Tes
            I told you before You can’t dismantle YG. Not yet. May be in the future. Right now he is not in your league.
            Anyway I wish you all the best.

      • Hayat Adem

        Yes Tes,
        YG is an asset. Blessed are those who can see what is not readily visible and think what is not the obvious. We need him now more than ever and maybe he can grace us on what his latest thoughts are on our problems and their solutions.
        You are not thinking I know him personally, are you? It would have been an honor to have known that kind of guy but never met him in person or communicated directly with him through other ways in my life. I think he knows AwateForum is open for everyone and if he comes, we will always welcome him with open hearts any time. Or there are awatistas who know him and talk to him, such as Bayan and can invite him back here on our behalf.
        It would have been interesting to see how his thoughts have evolved over the last 3 years. Also, it would be great to see if Saay and YG are an inch closer than they were three yrs ago. Tes, you know that it has been one of my dreams to have seen an all out debate between YG and Saay, don’t you?
        Bayan at one point had pushed this idea of having Saay and YG sharing a mic a step farther and he suggested that HaileTG and I moderate a vigorous town-hall debate between Saay and YG. How great that would have been?! Not because of the moderators but because of the debaters.
        Saay would never forgive me for a long time for using a phrasal adjective describing YG’s depth on things. I am lucky he didn’t have a long memory like that of Abi’s and he seems to have forgotten it now. I don’t want to remind him by re-mentioning the phrase here.
        I truly believe YG is a contrarian thinker but an unapologetic contrarian of a substantive depth as seeing things so deep in their bone essence.
        Thanks for making me talk about YG.
        Hayat

        • iSem

          Hi Tes and Hayat:

          Tes: it is not YG’s correct analysis, it is not his ground-breaking ideas (I know Sal disagrees, he would say YG’s ideas have been there since the beginning of time), it is not even how he articulates them, rather it is his willingness to be free, to break away from what we all thought was truth and his courage to question Ghedli, even if some of his attacks are wrong, it is a good thing. But the response was disappointment, supporters and opposition alike ganged up against him, their feeling was hurt, their choice if they are that fragile. If the people like YG, no matter how right or wrong their ideas are, no matter how insulting it is, no matter how false or stupid it is, if they cannot walk the street s of Asmara and Keren and Tesenay without fear on their person, except from attacks by some deranged people, like you know how, then Eri is not worthy of anything. That is how important the freedom of thinking and and freedom of speech should be. There are some people who say, mountains and rivers and rocks first and then free speech, this reminds me of the stupid debate of the mid 1980s when every cadre was debating: does idea come first or practice: “hassab do gbri yqdmi” and young people were discussing it as if they have split the atom with fervor and passion.
          Hayat: do not be fooled, Saay has a good memory, he fakes amentia, I bet that he can bit Abi, Saay has a very good memory.

          YG was a supporter of the government and an advocate of the whole Eritrean story until the war of 1998 change his mind. This is typical of sane humans, when the things they believed in are tested, they do not bury their heads in the sand and hope no one will see them, they question their belief system. This is what happened some 600 years ago in Europe when the bubonic plague wiped 50% of the population. During that time Europe was in dark-ages, it was lighted by fire and people believed the kings are God’s reps and had the power and when all their trust and faith could not save them, they questioned their beliefs and the roots of scientific inquiry were planned, when people invested in science and from then on the everything slowly changed, starting with renaissance, Europe was blossoming and the rest is history, they did not do the same thing and expect a different result, YG followed that logic, when his faith was crashed with the accumulated stupidity that gave us the carnage, YG examined the roots of the problem, his ideas need to be refined for sure but neither the roots of ideas nor the roots of what he tried to examine should be nipped in the bud

          • Hayat Adem

            Hi SemA,
            Brilliant comment!
            Bald departures with good reasoning must be embraced all the time. Then, they must be tested against the existing. If they stand better in terms of meeting higher purpose for a greater good and for the greater number of people, they must be favored and cherished. If they are not better, they should be dropped. Open discourse helps you do that. That is how it should be all the time.
            One thing I hate to see being considered as part of the reasoning whether it merits to consider a new departure or revitalize the existing one or just merely continue the exact same as is, the weight of history and old narratives.

          • tes

            Selam iSem,

            When you wrote what is quoted below I felt that how perfectly he read my thoughts.

            …it is not even how he articulates them, rather it is his willingness to be free, to break away from what we all thought was truth and his courage to question Ghedli, even if some of his attacks are wrong, it is a good thing.

            For this single reason I thought the courage of YG. I hate YG when he tries to deny our history but his liberal thinking has something to be learned from. Now that we are surrounded by nationalists (worse it was when YG was writing), we need to liberate the mind of Eritreans. For this single reason I want him back. I hope he will not try to delete history. We need revolution to liberate our mindset.

            tes

        • Haile Zeru

          Hi Hayat,

          “Blessed are those who can see what is not readily visible and think what is not the obvious.”
          This sounds a beginning of a cult. PLS follow your critical thinking. We have enough of DIA cult members why look for another one.
          While I applaud how you tear down DIA worship, Gheteb rotten thinking, I am appalled when I hear you say what you said about YG or any other person for that matter.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Haile Zeru,

            I don’t think Hayat is a cult worshiper. Her point is let’s appreciate for individuals who are bold to their thoughts and say it without fear of retribution when their idea is out of the common understanding of the majority. And by extension she is saying if we do not respect contrarian ideas to ours , or tolerate contrarian ideas it is dificult to test the fallsbilities of our ideas. So we should always respect contrarian ideas. Hayat might agree with YG’s ideas, and agreeing does not make you cult worshiper.

            Regards

          • Hayat Adem

            Hi Haile,
            Yours is unjustified concern. I may lack lot of other qualities, but I will tell you this: I will be the last person to be suspected of falling for cult. In fact, I will be honest with you: I feel insulted. By accusing me of doing cult on some one, you are clearly declaring that I lack the basics of sorting ideas. I don’t do good with pulsive and judgemental people. MaElesh, I will let it go.
            The other extreme side of cult that we should all fear is the unwillingness to consider new ideas. The fear to try new things is called neophobia. We have it in plenty here. One of the good things the kind of crisis we are expriencing these days is it helps you break conventional wisdoms and try new things.

          • Abi

            Hi The Queen
            I think you are missing the major point of Haile’s comment. He is reacting compulsively by the very mention of YG. I don’t believe for a second he missed your character. He is attaching YG before the discussion goes further.

          • Abraham H.

            Selam Hayat A., you said “The other extreme side of cult that we should all fear is the unwillingness to consider new ideas”. I was not here when YG was active, and I’ve not read many of his articles. But I understand that his central message was denigrating the long and arduous Eritrean struggle for self-determination, both through peaceful and armed means, and trying to do the impossible: re-making or re-inventing history. I don’t consider this as something groundbreaking in terms of bringing “new ideas”. What we need is not dwelling on the past and lamenting about what has been done, but rather how we could salvage ourselves from the crippling state we find ourselves under the Isayas tyranny.
            ዝተደፍአ ጸባ ኣይሕፈስን ‘ዩ ከምዝበሃል፥ ካብ ንድሕሪት ኣናጠመትና ኣብ ዘየድሊ ጣዕሳን ቆይቅን ንኣቱ፥ መጻኢና ከመይ ጌርና ነመሓይሽ ክንሓስብን ክንሰርሕን አግባእ።

          • Hayat Adem

            Dear Abraham,
            I totally agree wth what you said here as an advice. I am not so sure, though, if YG’s central messages are any different in essence from yours. In any case, you don’t have to read all of YG’s write ups. His messages repeat around a central theme over and over.
            1) He questions ghedli: its narratives, its justifications, its modus operandi, its outcomes, and its legacy… all of it., may be reading Romanticizing Ghedli will do.
            2) He thinks the shortest and cheapest way to correct what went wrong is to look for the excessive drift and just fix only that in stead of trying to reconfigure the entire society, the entire history and the entire culture in order to fit some of the extreme ghedli narratves. Maybe reading his The Circular Journey will do.
            3) His problem statement is “Nibur TefiEu”. The solution he recommends is “Nibur ab botiEu yimeles”. For that to happen “Pfdj yilges”. But he thinks all the forces of change in Eritrea are systematically and effectively incapacitated and the kebessa youth exodus, the demographic imbalances and collapse , and the generational genocide (of yikealo against warsai) were direct instruments on disempowering the organic forces of change. He views the opposition forces as also drivers of the disorientation while they are themselves victims of the disempowerment at the same time. In that line, he sees an initial help from good meaning outside forces is good. And he has Ethiopia in mind primarily.
            4) You may find some of his ideas relevant, valid, entertainable and some others not. Or you may think all of his ideas are fresh and fantastic or nonsense and crap altogether. But, it is not fair to characterize his views for what they never stood. He clearly takes Eritrea’s independence as irrevesible fact of life and he doesn’t believe undoing that is possible, or useful, or necessary. I think many people misunderstand him on that point. If we have to base our conclusions on only what he wrote and what he said, he is about a better future and better Eritrea.
            5) He only collides with most Eritreans strongly on the interpretations of ghedli narratives and values. And that is to be expected. Our era is a ghedli era and generation. We all have been part of it one way or the other. 90% of Eritreans had been watering ghedli in support. When he challenges that, a massive push back is expected. I am not saying all contrarian ideas are necessarily great game changers but all game changer ideas start as contrarian. And he is only contrarian as far as interpretting ghedli is concerned, but not on the solutions he recommends. Nibur, higin fitHin yimeles is hardly contrarian unless one borrows Gheteb’s binaculars permanently. That is the biggest curse on earth, is it not. MAY GOD FIX YOU WITH GHETEB’S EYE GLASSES FOREVER!!! Egzioooo!
            ——————
            It is a weekend so.. allow me to stay with gheteb and abi a bit?.
            abi, do you see what i see?
            I’m seeing lots of things but i don’t know if one of them is what you are talking about, gheteb…
            You are kidding me! You can’t miss this one…
            What is it exactly gheteb?
            Nadew, Naqfa..
            Not sure if i am getting you…So to be able to see whatever you are seeing, Naqfa terarawn linadew?
            No, i am talking about 1988…
            1988, very eventful year, i remember that was when i have known my first high school girl friend …
            No, abi.. i am not talking about first love and first dates… i am talking about a real war…
            Oh, gheteb… you want talk about wars.. why do you have to go way back while you have recent ones..
            Like Where?
            Easy, you have Syria…
            No, I am not talking about others, i am talking about ethio eritrea wars..
            Ok, in that case you have a closer one…you have 1998…
            No, abi, i am talking about the earlier ones.. during the liberation for independence..
            You mean the referrendum?
            Abi, the key battles that make the referrendum possible…
            In that case, i need to borrow your binaculars to see what you are seeing back in time…

          • Abi

            Hi The Queen
            “ምጡን እርሽው ልጁን አንሽው” ይላል ያገሬ ሰው
            YG , like any other Eritrean Elite was fine with the revolutionary struggle (ምጥ) as long as Eritrea (ልጅ) was doing fine.
            However, as he watched this artificially conceived child grew, he noticed that this child has a normal body with abnormal head. Almost all opposition and the silent opposition are blaming the head of this child. What makes YG different from other elites is he is bold enough to see and let others see that there was a serious problem in the conceiving process.
            “የማትረባ ፍየል ዘጠኝ ትወልዳለች
            ልጆቿም ያልቃሉ እሷም ትሞታለች” ይላል ያገሬ አዝማሪ

          • Haile Zeru

            Hi abraham,

            I totally agree with you. Even if you did not read many of YG’s writing it seems you have encapsulated his concepts in the line you wrote in tigrinya.

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello Haile Zeru,

            “In human thinking or action fallibility is the norm while perfection does not exist, and the occasional correct action or thinking are an exception.”

            Very well, but then, how does one avoid being labeled cultist if one recognizes the exceptional “occasional correct action” by someone or entity?

            Brother Haile, you misunderstood Hayat completely. She is the embodiment of anti-cultism if there ever was one.

        • MS

          Selam Hayat and all
          An opposition website had reported that AbdukraHman Younis (Saleh Younis father) had been released. I had a confirmation for that. Ciham Abdu, and her uncle (SheiK AbdulraHman’s son & SAAY’s brother) are still in prison. So, basically we have the news of the release of the grandfather only at this time. Sorry, for not making it clear. I also got calls from two friends who had the same question.
          NB: My comment was unsolicited, but Saleh was aware of it as evidenced by his up vote of the comment. I know it’s understandable that he needs sometime to collect his thoughts before saying something publicly. And I think it’s reasonable.
          Thanks again.

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello Mahmuday,

            For what it is worth, thank you for the news and update. It is definitely better than nothing.

            I hate to be a source of negative thought, but if the younger ones are still in jail, I can’t stop asking why SheiK AbdulraHman only. It would greatly help to find out in what shape and health he is. Since Ciham can only be innocent, why is she still under arrest? If SheiK AbdulraHman has not been released for his innocence then, why and why now?

          • iSem

            Hi all: Weekend to celebrate
            Let us be optimistic
            Congratulation Family

          • iSem

            Hi all: Weekend to celebrate
            Let us be optimistic
            Congratulation Family

          • MS

            Ashland Fanti
            I agree with your logic, but we know PFDJ is a denizen of planet illogic. It’s hard to speculate when the reasons of incarceration are denied even to the primary victims; we can only discuss what we have as the Tigrigna saying goes, ” adeKa zleaKetka zeykones…Edaga kemzxenHaka…/ you shop not according to the list of groceries your mom gives you but according to what the market provides you with”…our wishes are many, but at this time it is PFDJ which is pulling the strings, and in planet illogic, we may not find answers to logical questions.

  • Selamat Gheteb,

    Annihilate the Enemy INDEED! Wyatt zeybilu.

    In appreciation of your academic scholarly lectures now as then. I will follow suit and reciprocate with the same standards. I agree there is no need for Minnesota or Main. Baily Papers was on time achieved it’s purpose. Though we are soldiering from opposing trenches I will apply Newton ‘s law, Professor Newton Garver that is, to solidify your efforts as I aim to obliterate you. With Acadamics and integrity.

    Soldier On Gheteb and Carpe Diem.

    Abu Ashera Weapon X
    tSAtSE

  • Selamat Gheteb,

    Did they read you your Miranda Rights? Good!

    Please launch Main and Minnesota intersection counter offensive in addition to the Civil Disobedience regarding “The Dafla Group.”

    The Baily Papers + deliberations at Accoustic Forum Live est. adjacent to the loud Mickey Rats club on Minnesota.

    As 2 PAC SHAKUR says:
    Reality is Fake, Dreams are True.

    Lead Your Youth AND
    Make A STRONG AND UNITED STAND ON 17

    Abu Ashera Weapon X Evolution

    Al SherQ Al AwseTT~*

    tSAtSE

    • ‘Gheteb

      Selam Tsa Tse,

      There is no need for Main at Minnesota counter offensive as the oppositions gadflies were thoroughly vanquished and got the shellacking of their life.

      Picture this. The year was 1988 and the Nadew Command was on the verge of being totally annihilated. The complete obliteration of the Nadew Eiz was finalized with the “Ad shrumization” of the Derg’s Mechanized Units.

      “Ad Shrumize”: ( verb), to utterly annihilate one’s opponent or enemy to a level that the enemies/opponents wailing, moaning and caterwauling is NEVER answered, similar to that of Tigrigna’s ” መላስ ኣውያት ዘይብሉ”.

      I am neither tooting my own horn nor am I unnecessarily bragging here if I asserted that I have literally “Ad Shrumized” most, if not all, of the oppositions elements and gadflies.

      I know some are whimpering while others are licking their wounds. All the cacophony that you are hearing about getting me banned is the result of losing the war of ideas and being utterly defeated in the heated ideological warfare.

      I have heard all before from all types of the opposition elements in this Forum in the past two years. Here are some of the Forum members who after losing the battle of ideas or a debate who have called for my banning from this Forum.

      After the complete “Ad Shrumization” of my opponents, it means I won and won big. There is no need for Main at Minnesota to conduct a counter offensive.

      • Abi

        Hi Gheteb
        Nadew 1988!
        Fast forward short ten years your generals and leaders were gassing up the Landcruisers to abandon the country and the army behind.
        Nadew 1988!
        Fast forward 25 years where are the Generals and fighters who registered the Nadew victory?
        A . They are in Era Ero
        B. In the refugee camps in the neighboring countries and beyond
        C. Some of them were cold bloody shot while sitting on the wheelchairs
        D all of the above
        E none of the above
        F ” type your answer ”
        Nadew 1988!
        Fast forward another 25 years where are the children of those fighters who registered the Nadew victory?
        A . Sawa
        B. Slavery camps in the country where their parents liberated
        C. Refugee camps in a country where their parents got their independence from
        D. In the many universities and colleges in the country
        E . National Service that doesn’t seem to end
        F ” type your answer ”

        You see where I’m going with this? You guessed it right!!!!!!!!
        The Nadew victory and all the victories before and after have nothing to do with Eritreans. Actually, Eritreans are victims of their own victories.
        As I said many times before, your revolutionary struggle was a hoax.
        The Egyptians are guffawing!!! Eritreans are crying.
        Nadew 1998!

        • Hayat Adem

          Luel Ras,
          That was piercing. Victims of victory!

        • Selamat Gadhie Abi,

          So you want to Playyy with the BIG BOYS! JAhiAnts? I was expecting to see your ticker. So who won Game 3 Of the Warriors Trail Blazers?

          Did I ever tell you about the Giant ticker tape parade of Times Square 1944?

          I see you have read SJG’s. Sta Tse’s fan club… The Quid Pro Quo And The Lemon Story Gheteb
          RE: New Ideas and Innovations and Creativity
          The Quid Pro Quo is from when I was lead into The President of UB’s office by Professor Garver’s Office
          Think Kent University and The Anti Vietnam War movement.
          Napalm or Napalmat
          Adshrumized… “Rewind It Back Just Like THAT” “When I move YOU move!”

          Yeah you gonna need a little bits by BITS guidance still with your academics-Stop bye Frank’s Mobil for Abi’s Fast forward or FordRun for a Fill up

          From 2 to 10 or 12
          Un Known variables Boolean Algebra equation and it’s solutio.

          Quid Pro Quo

          Gheteb don’t forget MANJUSAY awatista! I will tell you all about the 16 years. Right after iddka msselemka to Eide iSEM. You will be joining him Nitricc and Robel for AZILO40 training. Yeah This Forum, a few of us OG Tecks Of the Archi, have designed upgraded. Yeah I agree with the need of New Ideas to OBLITERATE and AdShrumize Gheteb from this Sacred Forum.

          Abu Ashera Weapon X Evolution.

          Gashe Abi of Quids SQuids and the Pros Quotes Quos ..
          Garver, Newton ‘s Law

          Quid Pro Quo — And the Oligopoly Oil Cartel OPEC

          Solitair. .Frankly my dear Its Accademic. Thanks for Getting back at me! 🙂

          tSAtSE

          • Abi

            Selam Tebibu Solomon
            I’m still on the second paragraph of the first comment. It takes a week of hard work to understand your comment.
            Regarding Basketball, I’m not following the games. Who cares about basketball when there is soccer seven days a week? Are you kidding me?

        • ‘Gheteb

          Hi Abi,

          It will probably take me more than a year of constant conversation to walk you through and get you fully apprised about the EPLF’s General Principles Of Warfare so as to enable you to see ከአድማስ ባሻገር (Beyond The Horizon). Here I will merely attempt to lay out a general outline and hope that you may be able to connect the dots, so to speak.

          Nadew Command was, by all benchmarks, the center of gravity of the Ethiopian armed forces and it was totally decimated by the gallant EPLA in 1988. It is only a matter of historical record now, not only as narrated by Eritreans but from the books written by Ethiopian generals.

          You have travelled and ‘fast forwarded’ ten to twenty five years to detract and discredit the mammoth military victory at Nadew by the valiant EPLA. That is fine and dandy as I understand the need to salve the bruised ego of Ethiopians with some recent military fiascos that you believe Eritrea sustained recently.

          Again, that is okay, as the ostensible Ethiopian victories were nothing more than a mere chimera. Let me just mention the following in the hope of thoroughly disabusing you.

          (a) Wrong. The generals who were at the tip of the spearhead in the decimation of the Nadew Command are not ALL in Ella Erro. One was killed in action. Two have passed away. Many are still with the EDF. One is incarcerated at Ella Ero, but was more involved with fishery than with army after the liberation of Eritrea.

          (b) Dead Wrong. There is no Eritrean general in a refugee camp.

          (c) Incorrect. I haven’t known of an Eritrean general who was shot while sitting on a wheelchair.

          (A) Sawa. Yes, what about Sawa? If it was not for the genius of Sawa ( thanks to the farsightedness of His Excellency President Isaias Afwerki), Eritrea would have turned into the play pen for the evil agendas of the Weyanes and their Western patrons. Sawa foiled and is still thwarting all of the Weyan’s machinations.

          (B) Slavery Camp? Call it whatever pleases your fancies, but these centers are the crucibles where Eritrea’s nation identity is solidified and where nation building has been conducted in earnest.

          (C) Many Universities in Eritrea. Yeah, Eritrea is offering free post secondary education. That is something you can write home about.

          (D) The National Service in Eritrea is the result of a necessity imposed on us. With the interminable war declaration on Eritrea by the Weyanes and its masters, Eritrea is, perforce, left with no other option but to continue with the national service to ensure its survival.

          Take away this national service and Eritrea will be no more. That is why all that want to see the end of Eritrea as an independent nation want to end it as they know that without this national service their goal will be achieved so easily.

          You are utterly mistaken about our Revolutionary Struggle. It wasn’t a hoax, but rather it was an Eritrean endeavor that literally ended the GARGANTUAN Abyssinian hoax!

          • Abi

            Hi Gheteb
            It seems like your army was composed of only Generals.
            I asked ” where are the Generals and fighters?” You conveniently ignored the fighters and talked about the Generals only.
            BTW , have you noticed you chose “F” for all your answers?

            Gheteb, walk me through again. I mean try again. Make sure to hold my hands since you are walking on a slippery slope wearing slippers.

          • ‘Gheteb

            Hi Abi,

            If I am unable to walk you through the obliteration of the Nadew Eiz, then “Moto Aleqa” TadesseTele Salvano’s book will surely and gingerly ‘baby sit’ you through the whole saga that brought the utter defeat of the occupying Ethiopian armed forces in Eritrea.

            Did I tell you that the book is written in Amharic? Give it a try and I assure that the book does not bite!

          • Abi

            Hi Gheteb
            You are still avoiding my questions.
            Nadew, Fenqil,…
            Looks like the best days of free Eritrea were back in the war times.
            First answer my questions and will read the book together.

          • Kebessa

            Gheteb,

            The ‘brain’ behind the Adi Shirum operation is Mesfin Hagos. Michela Wrong has detailed that on her book, “I didn’t do it for you”. Not that you accept books not written by Isaias.

            The fact you omitted him from your list tells me either your knowledge on the matter is below average, or (most likely), you have corrupted your mind to such degree that you are comfortable doing omission, deletion and distortion to glorify a one person.

            Oh, wow, btw, now I see why Michela is barred from setting foot in Eritrea. I can not imagine how terrible Isaias must have felt someone other than him getting recognition. This is a No! No! No! For him – thick, fat, shiny red line.

          • ‘Gheteb

            Kebessa,

            If you are basing your claims on the book ” Michela Wrong has detailed that on her book, “I didn’t do it for you”, about the decimation of the Nadew Command, then I have no other options but to conclude that you must be a denizen of another planet. Any Eritrean worth his/her salt should know about this very operation without depending on the sophomoric account of Ms. Wrong.

            There are a plethora of first hand accounts about Nadew, and what you have cited is the farthest from being deemed as a primary source.

            I have NOT mentioned any General or otherwise about the Nadew military operation. Why did you bring Mesfin Hagos in your comment?

            Yeah, Mesfin Hagos, the man hailing from the heart of Kebessa? I mean a man born and raised smack dab in Karnessim ( Kuazen/Zagir)?

            My sense, I mean my sixth sense, is signaling that you Mr. “Kebessa” are divulging your “Regionalist Tendencies and Biases”. Some of us are capable of ‘teasing out fat from a housefly’ and your regionalism is showing through what you are highlighting in your comments.

            No wonder, then you have picked up “Kebessa” as your nick. Mind bendingly, flabbergasting!

          • Selamat Gheteb,

            Kab tSintSiA tSintSuai tSirayy tSAtSE tSebHi sbHi SEB SEBOM SEBSEBE SEB BEB.

          • Zara Yaqob

            hey gheteb,

            ምን ናደው ናደው እያልክ ታደርቀናለህ ? እራሱን በራሱ ያጠፋ ናደው ዕዝ አሸንፋችሁ እስካሁን አቃቂ ዘራፍ ትላለህ አንዴ ? ሻብያ ወንድ ከነበረ እነ 16ኛውን ሠንጥቅ ወይም 18ኛውን ተራራ ክፍለ ጦር አይደመስስም ነበር ? ናደው ናደው ከምትል፣ ወንድ ከሆንክ መጥተህ ባድመን አስመልስ። ለነገሩ ይሄ ሳዋ በግዳጅ ለባርነት የምታስገባቸው ልጆች እንደማይዋጉልህ ልብህ ያውቃል። ቆይ ደግሞ ግድቡ ይለቅ እና ለአሰብ ደግሞ አንመጣለን…

          • Abi

            Selam Zara Yaqob
            እንዲህ ነው እንጂ!!

          • Selamat Abi,

            Endesu Awo.

        • Kim Hanna

          Selam Abi,
          .
          Bless you brother!!
          .
          A while back I said some of the following to Eyob Medhanie. (where is my 2nd favorite Ethiopian these days-wish him the best) Now it is your turn.
          .
          May God bless you with good health and a long life.
          May God bless you with fortune that equals that of Bill Gates.
          May God bless you with power to have all Arabs bow before you.
          .
          Mr. K.H

          • iSem

            hi Kim:
            I almost blessed Abi too, but then I read the last para, where he treats Eritrean as stooges of the Arabs, the Eritrean gheldi as an Arab implements, while it was a grass root movement inspired by the reckless actions of HS and the brutality that followed

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam iSem,
            .
            Well, iSem, let me clarify my personal opinion on the Arab matter. Your view and my view are not that far apart, it is all where the emphasis is placed that is making the difference.
            .
            Some months or years ago SAAY asked me as to what my belief was in regard to the Arab question. I believe, I said that Eritreans are 1st and foremost responsible for the Independence of Eritrea.
            I added that the inadequate or incompetent Ethiopian leadership contributed as the 2nd responsible party. A lot has been said about that.
            .
            Then, with a little extra salt, I added the Arabs as the close 3rd contributors. They provided everything to achieve their goal of dividing the country into two, and then as an icing on the cake, the two countries are at each others throat. What more do they want. (I am not saying the icing is in their plan)
            .
            The Arabs (Cuba & China are mentioned to whitewash it) provided military training, intelligence, armament and money to do the job. Most importantly they provided land, the SUDAN, to hatch and have a safe house until it grew and matured for their “good” or “evil” deeds and purposes.
            Mind you, the Arabs played their cards in their interest wisely without shading any tears or blood of their own. Even then, I still will not put them as the 1st responsible party. The Eritreans and the Ethiopians are the ones who ushered in todays reality.
            .
            The Arabs were smart, we were not and are not.
            .
            Their fighter plans are landing and taking off —Asab. Need I say more.
            Somebody once said just when I thought I was done they pull me back or words to that effect.
            .
            Mr. K.H

          • iSem

            hi Kim:
            Well, I am not talking about the independence. I am saying the actual embryo of the armed struggle was conceived by Eritreans, I think the independence part even Abi admits, I think
            Yes, without free reign in the Sudan ghedli was toasted, and some factions of the ghedli played the Baath and Arab card
            But those who ignited, sparked, who fermented and brewed, who sow the seed were Eritreans. What ghedli did to capitalize, to exaggerate and to mislead is different matter.
            The Arabs had vested interest in the region in 1988 the Jihad movement among Eritrea blossomed seemingly out of the blue and Eritreans were divided like they are now on identity, on vision they duked it in the refugee camps and cities in Sudan in broad day light, it was ugly.
            The Arabs were not helping us from the goodness of their heart, see how they played the Palestine, so that is obvious. But Abi believes that Eri were not the master of their own destiny to him they were mere robots controlled remtoely from Cairo and Macca

          • Berhe Y

            Dear K.H.

            I agree to all and most of what you said.. except I think you should reverse the order and put Ethiopia leaders 1st and follow the rest.

            Somebody once said just when I thought I was done they pull me back or words to that effect..

            I am sure Saay and Amde will correct me but I think that’s a line from the God Father. But I remember it from George (Sienfield) :).

            What I like to add is, how foolish our leaders are and how foolish our people are to follow them.

            As to the Arabs, I don’t think they need to be totally blamed. For example, HS have helped Mandela during the apartheid. Was there any wrong in HS helping Mandela. Mengistu was helping Mugabe when Zimbabwe were fighting for independence. Was Mengistu wrong in helping them out. Gadafi was helping ANC when Mandela was in prison. Was Gadafi wrong in helping ANC? Gadafi and Yemen were helping Ethiopia (Mengistu) when they were fighing Eritrean / Tigray “rebels”.

            What ever help Eritreans get from the Arabs, China or USA (it did give arms to EPLF I think) was really how politics is played.

            I am sure the help Mengistu got from Gadafi and Lybia is probably 10 times more than what the arabs provided to ELF/ EPLF.

            It’s basically poltics..that’s how the game is played…

            Isayas is helping Ethiopian rebels now..more than any help any Eritrean got…is he doing it for the arabs or is he doing for his own selfish power games…

            Ethiopia is doing the same with Eritrean opposition groups..

            But I think ultimately in my opinion the problem is with those who are in power and who do not want to lead their people peacefully and democratically.

            I think blaming those who take up arms when there is no other means left for them should be second.

            There is no secret to it really…NO sane person would go and die on behalf of another person if that person can leave in peace in his own country….Never happened in history (please give me example if there is any, Arab or no Arab)…That’s the universal truth..no Indian, no Brazilian, No Indonesian, no Malaysian, if they can leave in their country in peace.

            Berhe

          • iSem

            Hi BY:
            “..NO sane person would go and die on behalf of another person if that person can live in peace in his own country….Never happened in history (please give me example if there is any, Arab or no Arab)…That’s the universal truth..no Indian, no Brazilian, No Indonesian, no Malaysian, if they can live in their country in peace.”
            That is partly true and especially in the context we are discussing, but remember human beings are tricky, complex creatures and what we we were told that wars and conflicts star for resources is also no entirely correct, humans die and are willing to die for a belief even if they are leaving happily in the material sense, even if their loved ones are take care off. Take for example the Eritreans who had it good, educated, successful in business in Addis and all their children are with them and some how they inject themselves in the Eritrean ghedli, risking their lives and livelihoods, u can say that because someone they went to school with joined the ghedli, their brother was killed by Dergi and so on, but remember what the prof (G-13) who told me and you that he declined a teaching in a prestigious university and instead accepted the offer of tiny Dalaware university to be near the action in DC because he believed in the future of Eri and also his wife went to shcool with the likes of IA and so on. and that both believed in the cause
            Th Jewish after been away for 2000 years they decided return to Israel you can argue that it was the second world war did that, but in truth the movement started in the 1800s because some leaders in Europe believed in the rule/promise/prophesy to return to the home land that was told to their patriarchies.
            People die for a belief: Ed Snowden was living a good life, but his values made him do what he did and he is paying for it, he is not dead, but almost, he is in Ghedli;-) So was Julian Assange, so was was Daniel Essleberg, who leaked 7000 pages of government lies.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear iSem,

            I should have been more clear what I mean by that. I wasn’t thinking about individuals but society in collective. We spend here all day discussing matters that’s is really far from our direct lives. But we do it because our brothers and sisters back home are suffering. ERITREAN’s in Ethiopia are no different. By the same reason you can say the same thing about Zerai Deres.

            I don’t think dr. Birhanu would go to Eritrea if he believes he can live peacefully and exercise his political rights in his country.

            The Jews did the same thing. I personally what ever is happening in the Arab world is no different.

            In other words, there is always a cause and what follows is the reaction.

            Berhe

          • Selamat iSEM,

            Try all the Arabs and non Arabs who landed on Afghanistan and fought with the Mujahadeen. The current middle east and the ISIS global fighters descending on Syria. World Wars.

            And countless persons fighting for another country if they can live in peace.

            iSEM Eide, izzi khulu tesfa nkhontu

            Closer to home and time you can use the person Semere Andom who is fighting for Ethiopia ‘s cause. Also Berhe Yeman is another. Just read his request to Kim Hana to reorder as Ethiopia First and the rest in any order.
            tSAtSE knew this long long ago. The two Agazian Northners missing Emmama Tigrayy Tigrigni have been and are sabotaging The Eritrean Just Cause of the Opposition to the Injustices. Sabotaging the Trail Blazers HARAKA/ELF/PLF/EPLF/WARSAY.

            You can add GI Jo of the Vietnam War as another.

            Here is a better narative for you. The Greatest Mohamed Ali who said “Ho Chk Minh don’t call me @$!#: ” as the conscience objector to an unjust war.

            Afrcawit Vietnam! Change your narrative iSEM Eide!

            Make a STAND ON 17. Nlomi zeykone nmeAAs kkhonena.

            Abu Ashera Weapon X Evolution

            tSAtSE

          • Berhe Y

            Dear tSaTse,

            NzeyfekTeka belo.

            Why are you trying to be more Eritrean. Yes I blame the Ethiopian authorities for dismantling the federation first. I blame the Eritreans who were used by the Ethiopians to dismantle the federation. You know who, people like your uncle Amanuel Andemichael who served the Ethiopian administration, including the Derg, while their people were bombed.

            You probably of people know Mihret and she may have been your teacher. This Eritrea that’s currently ruled by the devil is not even worth living for people like Mihret who gave everything.

            FYI, I don’t know if Abu ashera is your signature and I don’t know what it means but in Eritrea they use it to mean something completely different.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hi Hawuna Berhe
            Since Eritreans were occupying the highest offices in both the King’s and derg times, they are responsible for each and every decision made during both eras. These include among other things the bombing you are talking about.
            My theory is the Highlanders used derg and the King to clear the lowlanders from Eritrea. My prove is
            1 The Highlanders were flocking to central Ethiopia for work and education
            2 The lowlanders were flocking to Sudan refugee camps
            3 The current Eritrean regime refused to bring back the Eritrean refugees from Sudan. Actually, it gave their lands to the Highlanders.
            In short, whatever imaginary or real atrocities made by the King or derg, it was initiated and executed by Eritreans in those higher offices.

          • Abi

            Hi Mr Kim
            Thanks brother for all the good wishes.
            Could you please include Semere Andom with the Arabs since he loves them more than they love each other?
            Also I want Eyobe to be around when Semere Andom and the Arabs bow for me so that he will mercilessly kick their sorry behinds.
            I miss Eyobe every single day. He is one great Ethiopian!

          • Peace!

            Abish,

            I didn’t know you hate the Arabs to that extent, I mean how could that be possible when you have arabic names in your households.

            Peace!

          • Abi

            Hi Peace
            Now you know.
            Yes , I HATE arabs.

          • Peace!

            Abish,

            I thought you read bible quiet often, or it is just hasn’t kicked in yet because there are also millions of Arab christians who read the same bible as yours.

            Peace!

          • Abi

            Hi Peace
            Which part of my comment mentioned religion?
            ያልተፃፈ አታንብብ

          • Peace!

            Abish,

            Nice try:) I was just saying hate and bible do not go together.

            Peace!

          • Abi

            Hi Peace
            Thanks for the info.
            ወዳጅ ለመቼ ነው ?

          • Brhan

            Hi Abi,
            This is a hate speech. Please respect the guidelines of the discussion.

          • Abi

            Hi Brhan
            This is a personal feeling. It has nothing to do with the guidelines.
            I did not ask anybody to hate arabs.
            I also hate camels . Do I expect a complaint from humane society?

          • Hayat Adem

            Kibur Luel Ras,
            It cannot be okay to hate people and animals. It is not okay to hate people; and it is not okay to hate camels.

          • Abi

            Hi The Queen
            እንደፈቃድዎ ይሁን::

          • Abraham H.

            Selam Abi, today I watched an interview by a young French woman named Cindy who lost almost all members her family; her mom, her younger brother, and four of her grandparents in the terror attack in Nice last year. When speaking about the terrorist who killed her family and more than 80 other innocent people, she said she didn’t have any hate for the murderer; she rather criticised the French gov for not doing enough to protect the people. So when I compare your claim that you hate Arabs, hundreds of millions of them, and the unbelievable forgiveness of this young woman, I can’t help it but conclude how different we human beings are.
            P.S. Cindy had an important advice for everyone of us: i.e. to tell our dearest ones that we love them everyday, because we never know how long we have them around us.

          • Abi

            Hi Abraham
            Excellent message from Cindy.
            Thanks.

      • Hayat Adem

        Gheteb,
        Do you a habit of going to places and people youhave already known? Do you feel like going back to your mother’s womb because you were there once?
        Pleae show us what your ideas are on solving Eritrea’s current future problems. That is if you have one?.

  • KBT

    Selamat kulukhum
    I laughed so much friends it was so funny you guys are good at it what can else you guys can do anyway than been clown or bouffant.
    No alternative than pfdj the evidence the violence we saw this what will happen if other took power in our country, I think also next time the people should organize and defend themselves,
    What it is? ?
    Everyone have to follow a looser so called opposition ???
    and those illegal refugees good at nothing telling other why they are her in democratic country who those people are ??
    If they want to fight why they don’t go and fight like man, m sure tplf will provide them everything they need .
    And monkey monkey can you look into the mirror yourselves.
    You guys beneath him ,was a fighter and still fighting defending his country
    Than wasting his time behind computers eating welfare.

    • Brhan

      Hello KBT,
      Veldhoven has not been the only battle. Before was Oakland, the US and Toronto, Canada. PF(JD) was challenged in these cities. Did you laugh at Canada when it kicked the regime’s representative?

      Thanks

      • KBT

        Selamat ayebrehalka
        I heard you guys burn the community center and this is why no one want you malevolent and violent .what about Canada? And who care?eritrean are still going back home from Canada. But people like you will never set one feet in our country,
        Stay and harasse true eritrean
        You guys are frustrated ,you tried every lies ,every conspiracy and eritrea prevail against all odds so long life issayas afeworki,

        • Brhan

          Hello KBT( ከብት?)

          Only fools (kbti) say that. Or you mean the western countries like the Netherlands, the US and Canada are fools?

        • Peace!

          Hi KBTI

          What is so sad is that you and your likes do not understand what a “country” really means. It is not just a land with full of prisons and mass graves rather it is a nation with its own elected government and productive citizens. But you are too contaminated to make a conscious comment and for that reason, no one should dignify you with response.

          Peace!

          • KBT

            Selamat
            And Yet you did ,I didn’t expect any answer cause I am too direct
            You said a country full of prison and masse grave ,
            I know you fantasizing for what you wish to see ,is that westerner teach you ???
            Lying day and nightSo they can use it to destabilize Eritrea.
            Do you feel good when you lie ,you like to lessen fake news to much
            Any way keep barking to your welfare donor cause you have no gutt
            To do it on your own
            stop your nonsense lie And if you believe that what you said is true and you care for the people in Eritrea then
            Take arm and fight for them like a man ,for all who babling her show us some honor come and fight

  • Robel Cali

    Hi everyone

    To the people who support Miriam Van Reisen do you also support her views of unifying Eritrea with Ethiopia?

    She made these quotes:

    “Eritrea reminds me most of East Germany, before the fall of the Berlin Wall, where people would risk their lives to escape.” Said Mirjam. “What is also similar to the situation between East and West Germany is the relationship between Eritrea and Ethiopia. The split between the countries is very artificial.”

    “Most of my friends have family on both sides of the border. We need Meles to play the role of Chancellor Kohl, who in 1989 set everything (including important outstanding border issues) aside to overcome the artificial separation, which made the East German regime crumble.”

    So the woman egging violence and high-fiving and fist pumping with middle age opposition youth at the YPFDJ conference is a woman that believes Eritrea should be under Ethiopian rule.

    • tes

      Selam Robel Cali.,

      ዝጠፈሸ ነጋዳይ መዛግቡ ይግንጽል ዶ ኮይኑካ፧ ዝረሳዕካዮ እንተሃልዩ ኤርትራ ልእላዊት ሃገር እያ። መጻኢ ናይ ሓንቲ ልእላዊት ሃገር ድማ ብሓደ ውልቀ ሰብ ዝተዋህበ ርእይቶ ከምዘይውሰን ፍለጥ። እንትርፎ ህግደፋውያን ድማ ብከምዚ ኣቕሪብካዮ ዘለኻ ዝሓስብ የለን።

      tes

      • Robel Cali

        Hi tes

        I wrote in English, please respond in English. Thanks.

        • Daniel Joseph

          What he thinks he wrote it in the language he understand
          There ends every thing

    • Berhe Y

      Dear Robel,

      It’s her opinion and she is entitled to make them. The Eritrean president said “We see our relationship beyond boarders” etc..

      It’s interesting how you put it “a woman that believes Eritrea should be under Ethiopian rule”. Under Ethiopian rule…if you must use the German example (east and west), well Angela Merkel is from East Germany…so I don’t think East Germany is under the West Germany rule. They are are united and they are one.

      Berhe

      • Robel Cali

        Hi Berhe

        What the president said and what Miriam Van Reisen said are completely different. The president is alluding to an economic union with the greater Horn of Africa while the so-called professor is talking about reversing Eritrea’s independence based on her ignorant understanding of Eritrea.

        Eritrea and Ethiopia is not like East and West Germany. The fact that she even used that as an example shows how ignorant she really is. I know 3rd graders from Kansas that know Eritrea and Ethiopia are NOTHING like East and West Germany. So her statements clearly indicates she is either really ignorant on Eritrea or she is a hired agent of the Ethiopian regime. Since shes a professor, I’m gonna say shes playing dumb for the Birr.

        • Berhe Y

          Hi Robel,

          I don’t think the president said was with greater Horn of Africa but Ethiopia in particular. Anyway, let’s assume what you said about her correct.

          What’s undisputed fact is, if she is hired or not, the crimes committed by the Eritrean government against its own people. If she is highlighting that fact, doesn’t matter what her opinion is what the future of Eritrea and Ethiopia is going to be.

          You see, you write with purpose to discredit her and use the fear factor to indicated that she is against Eritrean independence.

          How can you reach the conclusion “If you support her, then it means you those who support her also support her idea of “Eritrean to be ruled by Ethiopia”.

          Berhe

          • Robel Cali

            Hi Berhe

            It does matter what her views are because that shows us her intent. She doesn’t really care about human rights because she happily ignores them in Ethiopia (which any rational person will agree is far worse than Eritrea’s). If she really cared about human rights, would she not condemn them in Ethiopia, the country she wants Eritrea to be a part of? Or is she turning a blind eye to Ethiopia’s WORSE human rights violations for the Birr?

            That’s why I resist Muslim elites who cry to the Eritrean government to make a foreign language like Arabic become a co-national language or outright national language of Eritrea because I know the motive behind this call is Islam and to a certain degree, inferiority complexes tied to inheriting a religion that the Arabs created in the 7th century. It’s not about giving Eritrea an economic edge at all. Because if that were the case, then English would/should be the country’s co-national language or national language.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Robel,

            There is a lot of loaded words and accusations with no bases. Where did you all that..man.

            OK, why do you you, as an Eritrean who is not in the pay by Ethiopia address the human rights issue in Eritrea. Do you think there is a human rights issue in Eritrea or not.

            As to the Arabic, I think we discussed this before and you are trying to divert the attention and focus on something else totally and completely different.

            Why don’t you read some Eritrean history and learn what did Eritreans (mostly Muslim and from the lowlands) in then 1930/ 1940 did their schooling?

            Berhe

          • Haile S.

            Dear Robel Cali,
            By your irresponsible out of the blue denigration and insult of a population and a religion, you brought the lively forum to a standstill. I suggest you to take some time off the forum, then come back to reread what you wrote and to apologize.

          • Samat Haile S.,

            noE noE onE giega ykhleAleyy deA ‘mber, izza WALA BAG tbell nayy nay kibtSEt sltii Robel – Cali, n. Eid iSEM idduu Selimu, guddayy FtHi be it tmhrti TeAAlimu, ab 17! Ms hzbbuu

            SHIGEY Abu Ashera Messaria AAserrte nay Gesgestti

            melkatitt dHri meggabit yekatitt miazzia iyya tmesill zella.

            Simple Engish-Arabic-Tigrigna, Reftence iSEM’s book on Eide-CHANGRE YOUR FALSE NARATIVE with a Forward by Ms. Hyatt Adem of the 12.7% 2nd Aplelate Court.

            We STAND STRONG UNITED ON 17!

            Shig Abu AaSherra Weapon X

            Warriors Trail Blazers

            tSAtSE

          • Haile S.

            Selamat Xaxe,
            Unable to decipher your guromaile, I pasted it on google translate. The English said non-englese, the French said non-franchese; surprisigly our old masters language recognized it and gave me the perfect translation …..WALA BAG non si cancella e non si chiude Robel…. meaning you do not delete and do not shut Robel.
            I am not Xaxe:)

          • iSem

            Hi Robel;
            The comparison with English is nonesense. Like it or not, there is one fact, even if you do not consider whey the early Eritreans chose Arabic along with Tig.
            It is imposbile to teach students in the elementary in their own mother tongue and then expect them not lag behind, most of the ethibuc dialects do not have written literature much less to teach science with them
            And Arabic will be accepted by all of the rest, problem solved, then everything becomes English, besides Arabic is sacred language for the muslims (50%), an other issues solved
            it is not for economics edge. This is basic stuff, why is that you guys cannot grasps. It is your PFDJ that gave the aliens Rashaidas an ethnic status and citizenship and you come back and deny the official language for other Eritreans.

    • Kebessa

      Robel,
      You quoted only the part you want to, don’t do that:)
      Here is the full content:
      “Eritrea reminds me most of East Germany, before the fall of the Berlin Wall, where people would risk their lives to escape. What is also similar to the situation between East and West Germany is the relationship between Eritrea and Ethiopia. The split between the countries is very artificial. Most of my friends have family on both sides of the border. We need Meles to play the role of Chancellor Kohl, who in 1989 set everything (including important outstanding border issues) aside to overcome the artificial separation, which made the East German regime crumble. The comparison stops there. Eritrea should remain an independent state, and I do believe that the Ethiopian unwillingness to settle the border issues on the various sides of its borders, is an extremely unhelpful factor that provides Afewerki with a mistaken excuse to continue on a path of militarization and war”

      Before that, she said as follows

      “I have known many Eritreans who lived outside Eritrea during the war before independence and were politically involved to support the EPLF and ELF. I also made many friends who fought in the EPLF and I was, as many others, impressed with the organization and philosophy of the EPLF at that time. I was among those who rejoiced when Eritrea became independent. Many of my friends chose to live in independent Eritrea to build the country and bring prosperity for all its people. I worked with the Eritrean ambassadors at the time to help give a positive profile to Eritrea in the EU.”

      • Robel Cali

        HI Kebessa

        So what? People always want to be with winners. Google “fair weather fans”. Eritrea defeated Ethiopia. EPLF were winners. All the doubters and those who supported Ethiopia all of sudden became longtime friends of Eritrea overnight. This is a common theme of human behavior. People don’t want to associate with losers. She did squat for Eritreans during its darkest hours. So to make it up, she is the leader of middle age opposition youth in Holland to reverse Eritrea’s independence. With friends like this, who needs enemies?

        • Berhe Y

          Hi Robel,

          If you are going to quote her for what she said and make a conclusion that “She wants Eritrea to be under Ethiopian rule” and you asked those Eritreans who support here “if they also support her idea to be ruled by Ethiopia”.

          Robel, there is something called honor. Just look yourself in the mirror and respond to your own internal voice…..

          That’s what the PFDJ is capable of, and it’s sad to see they are training the yPFDJ in their own self image.

          Berhe

      • tes

        Selam Kebessa,

        This is a brilliant fact-check mechanism. Robel tried to demonize Professor Miriam Van Reisen. Rather he is caught on hand as a lair.

        I wrote purely out of imagination what he purposefully forgot about Eritrea in his selective quote. Any sane mind can figure the sanity of this good professor.

        ዝጠፈሸ ነጋዳይ መዛግቡ ይግንጽል ዶ ኮይኑካ፧ ዝረሳዕካዮ እንተሃልዩ ኤርትራ ልእላዊት ሃገር እያ። መጻኢ ናይ ሓንቲ ልእላዊት ሃገር ድማ ብሓደ ውልቀ ሰብ ዝተዋህበ ርእይቶ ከምዘይውሰን ፍለጥ። እንትርፎ ህግደፋውያን ድማ ብከምዚ ኣቕሪብካዮ ዘለኻ ዝሓስብ የለን።

        And he[Robel Cal.] wrote back –

        I wrote in English, please respond in English. Thanks.

        I now understand why he reacted in this ridiculus way.

        tes

    • Selamat Robel Cali,

      For me it not about supporting Miriam Van Reisin or about supporting unifying Eritrea with Ethiopia. But I will give you two statements of what I think and you can consider it as my two cents or two tears of joy or two tears of sorrow:

      1. I support FIGHTING CRMIMINALS who indiscriminately have disappeared people, put people in jail with out charging them of a crime let alone providing them with their day in court, have their oppressive BOOTS

    • Brhan

      Hello Robel,
      Your issue about Miriam Van Reisen is your attempt of distraction . PF(JD) was challenged and defeated in the US and Canada. Veldhoven was a battle won by pro democracy Eritreans. What did you say when Canada kicked out the regime’s representative or you did find a Canadian professor to blame.

    • Hayat Adem

      Robel and Kebessa,
      Robel,
      I know we are not here to discuss a far away world professor when we have plenty of problems of our own in our hands but what happened my brother? What have you done to yourself? This is what you put as your key message in here:
      “To the people who support Miriam Van Reisen do you also support her views of unifying Eritrea with
      Ethiopia?”
      And then to support your point, you brought us a quote from what she said in the past. Now, the first conventional rule with quoting people is even if they said, you are supposed to be careful not to quote them out of context, i.e., not just what they said but the way they said it, the tone they said it and the general environment in relation to they said it. If you quote them outside the context even if by mistake of not becoming careful enough and sensitive enough, and loyal enough to their message in holism, even if you quote them right on the words, you are a cheater, unfair and dishonest to the person in question. When you do that, you are not also loyal and helpful to your trusting readers. Your readers have to believe you, no matter what your views are and how biased and opinionated you are, they are not supposed to suspect you of dishonesty in quoting other people. But again, you are not being fair to yourself either. Because, you are not debating a real difference as this is a difference of your own creation curved outside context.
      This was about being truthful to contexts when quoting. But what you did to yourself in the above quote is of a different league even. You minced words of some one and picked the part to imply what was not intended by the speaker. You showed us what you can do and what length you go to misrepresent facts and views. And that all is knowing what you are doing. How can you survive such a state of mind and character? I mean you, Robel?!
      Some one says, “A person has a brain part on the left for scientific processing; and another part on the right for artistic inspirations.” I go and claim that some said people have only one brain part on the left. And I bring my support reference in quotation, “A person has a brain part on the left for scientific processing” – and do this knowingly what I am doing- i must be so desperate to do anything corrupting my moral to the marrow of my bone. That is something else. And the kind of quality of character I see in few of PFDJ supporters is out of this world.
      Kebessa, thank you.

  • Abraham H.

    Selam Folks, aha, now I’ve pinpointed the location of the Zara gold mine of the mafia Isayas wedi medhin berad. The only problem is that the mafia PFDJ regime, with the help of the equally mafia Chinese regime, have used some technology to conceal the site of the mine on Google Earth and it is really not readily visible. But from a picture of the site, I know that there are a number of red-roofed buildings at the site, and this red coloration can be deciphered from the vague image that is present on google earth. Here is the exact location of the site, and look for yourselves what I’m trying to say. Just write the following on the search box of your google earth and press ‘enter’:
    16 29 53N, 37 56 39E

    • Simon Kaleab

      Selam Abraham H.,

      What next? Are you going to liberate that location or cry in front of the UN office?

    • ‘Gheteb

      Hi Abrham H.,

      Let me ask you this question, Wedi-Hannibal. What prompted you to pinpoint Google Earth on the Zara Gold Mine project in Eritrea? Let me guess.

      Could it be that you are so disgusted and feel really bad and you are utterly embarrassed by the violent and vagabond acts by your comrades in arms, the so-called Justice Seekers, you were looking for some sort of a relief you ended up looking at Google Earth?

      Could it be that you are so hopelessly bored by the sorry state that your Medrek and the Eritrean oppositions groups find themselves in that you hoped against all hopes that you will end up finding something illegal or embarrassing that the Eritrean government is involved in and you were hoping of discovering something through Google Earth that will give you the opportunity for that “Aha moment”?

      Or, could it be that you read this in your Mederek’s website and you almost jumped on and hit Google Earth forthwith? I mean you read the following from the Mederk’s website and you couldn’t wait to expose “the mafia regime in Eritrea”?

      ” ምስ ቻይና ዝግበር ዘሎ ናይ ወርቂ ዕደና ስምምዓት ዳርጋ ንሃብቲ ናይ ኤርትራ ብነጻ ቻይና ክትወስዶ ዘፍቅደላ ውዕላት ይኸውን ምህላዉ ተሓቢሩ።”.

      Knowing all that excites you, I think the latter is what really motivated you to Google Earth the Zara Mining Project in Eritrea. I don’t think that there is much to hide about this gold mining operations in Eritrea.

      Here is what is known about this mining operation.

      Zara Mining Share Company ( ZMSC) is established by:

      60% China SFECO Group
      40% Eritrean National Mining Corporation ( ENAMCO).

      I think Chalice Gold Mines sold Zara Gold Projects to the Chinese SFECO Group in 2012 for some US$ 114 Million, have started commercial gold production in 2016.

      Now, I hope that Aba Khebdu and Company would realize that the money that the Eritrean government is getting from the Zara Gold Mines Project is going no where than in paying for EDUCATION, HEALTH and other Services that cost money but are rendered to Eritreans for free.

      BTW, Direct your Google Earth to the nearly completed Mai Nefhi Eritrean IT College to view the multi-million dollar construction. Do you and your Mederek think the money to pay for the Eritrean IT College descended from the skies like manna or the income generated from these mining activities is the source of it? Just apply simple logic without too much emotions and you will be able to find your answers.

      PS: Do you believe in people having the right to freedom of speech. I mean do you respect this right even to the people who hold views that you don’t agree with?

      • tes

        Selam Gurundog Gheteb,

        Free speech without accountability is not what means about free speech. You are voice of the criminal from Asmara. Criminals should not left open to continue their crime actions. For this reason AT should banyou.

        tes

        • Abi

          Hi Tes
          People like Gheteb bring the best out of debaters. This forum needs more pfdj supporters. Specially those people who openly support the regime should be encouraged. If you don’t convince regime supporters and bring them to your side, then what is the purpose of debating?
          What is Gurundog?

          • tes

            Selam Abi,

            PFDJites like Gurundog Gheteb are not able to bring the best rather they are wasting the best energy in trying to correct the misinformation they provide here. Have you checked how Robel Cali. used a crooked quote to hit his target opponent.

            On the thing you are asking, I think it is very clear. I don’t know why you failed.

            tes

          • Abi

            Hi Tes
            I think your best energy should be spent on convincing regime supporting individuals. Otherwise, all the comments start with ” I agree with you 100% ” or ” I approve your message “…
            What is Gurundog?
            Did you watch the Monaco game?

          • tes

            Selam Abi,

            I will never spent a single energy to convince regime supporters. Not a single enrgy. They are my enemies and I have to defeat them. Once defeated, if they want to join me, welcome if not I will not bother. I have the regime by itself and this regime is going to be weeded out.

            Gurundog – guess.

            Dont’t ask me about football.

            tes

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam tes,
            .
            There you go again, hard line. (remember the Newton Law) I think that is where the problem lies, tes. You want to defeat them and they want to defeat you. so far they still have the upper hand.
            .
            You and them are presumably fighting for the well being of Eritrea and Eritreans. That singular FACT has to be repeated like a religious line at every encounter.
            Therefore, at least on your part, you have to engage the “normal thinking” participants (not ‘Gheteb) to find the common DENOMINATORS. That first step will start the talking and walking together, for a change. Overreaching from the get go had been a looser so far, hasn’t it? I think, Fanti Ghana was advancing that concept the other day. Draw him to elaborate.
            .
            Mr. K.H

          • Berhe Y

            Dear tes,

            I think Kim has a point. There are the obvious members of the gangsters that we shouldn’t waste our time (like Gheteb) but many others within the regime that we should convert. We need those the government trust in order to remove the system from within, otherwise it will be hard to penetrate the system and defeat it.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hawuna Berhe
            You are on fire these days. I agree with you 💯!!! I approve your message! I second your comment! I can’t say it any better! What a comment! You nailed it my brother! I can’t wait to read your next comment! God bless you!
            Please accept my up vote!

          • Thomas

            Hi Berhe,

            I agree but we need to be careful because you cannot win all customers:) Some dirty minds cannot be changed or enlightened. We don’t want a non paying customers:)

        • Selamat tes,

          Your Excellency,
          I have been court appointed to defend Gheteb on The charges You bring forth.
          I am a Partner withThe Law Firm Baily Lotus ZaEgo ltdwzywygggg Inc.

          Your honor, I take this opportunity to state my appreciation of your BITS 1 OR 2 you have penned regarding Mr. purchaser of Joy from The Law Firm ShaEbiawi EriSAT (SATIRE) Esquire Ltd.

          Look at That S-CAR-GO named ShaEbiaRAS

          Abu AShera Weapon X Evolution

          tSAtSE

          • tes

            Selam Solomon,

            It is becoming very hard for me to interact with you I have lots of respect. I am finding myself in a mixed feelings: should I put you in the box of change seekers or dead revolutionaries – like that of shabia.

            tes

            PS: No Shabia(EPLF) but PFDJ criminals in Asmara. Shabia is gone in 1994. Why you areliving in the past is a mystery for me just like that of your GitSAtSE comments. I am missing Solomon.

          • Selamat tes,

            I solute you back as Respect is mutual! Hence, IT IS EARNED. And I will add that I Respect you more. I solute you back as you tes are An Officer on Deck and a Gentleman for asking.

            Please take this Alemtuka127 password In it’s intended SPIRIT of Fraternity first and foremost. The one word answer to your question is U

          • Selamat tes,

            SENTINELS are holding your proper response.
            DufaE UNBOUND is fighting for every INCH ….

            Fortifying their defense
            MaEbell Evolution Abu AShera zAAgto yebullunn

            Dub Nation Trail Blazers… NOT Hype or SATIRE.

            Ayya Ishmael AA, all hands on deck Seidicci 77.

            Abu Asherra Weapon X

            tSAtSE

          • Selamat tes,

            You have asked I answered.

            Rhetorical if it is, the say so. My War my Strategy. Trust in your abilities of deductive logic for the why.?
            Do not be hindered as is Gheteb by anything.

            Most of all, be bound only by JUSTICE and Fair Trade. I am.

            UNBOUND!

            tSAtSE

      • Berhe Y

        Gheteb,

        You know it doesn’t hurt to tell the truth. We say nzgheberelka wey giberelu wey nigerelu.

        Education and health in Eritrea is totally funded by the international community and it has nothing to do with the ERITREAN government or gold sales.

        Sales from Gold is going directly to the president secret accounts in swiss. The ERITREAN ministry of finiance does not even know anything about it. This is one of the points of contention with the monitoring group.

        “Zara Gold Mines Project is going no where other than in paying for EDUCATION, HEALTH and other Services that cost money but are rendered to Eritreans for free.”

        Berhe

        • KBT

          Selamat
          This is what they teaching promote at the endowment for democracy ,they like to fund people like you, you have just to proof them that you are good at lying.
          Can you just before blabling give little evidence, there is no honor to lie.
          Do you hear to yourself sometimes brother ??
          And this is a kind of people that advocate for democracy,

      • Abraham H.

        Hi Gheteb, the money for the construction of the college at Mai Nefhi came from China, the same with almost all the major projects. But, the likes of you, since you are liars, you want to hide this fact and try to pretend with your bogus self reliance talk. Eritrea, just like all developing countries, recieves a lot of development aid, grants and loans, without which it cannot meet funding for its services and projects.
        You said “the money that the Eritrean government is getting from the Zara Gold Mines Project is going no where other than in paying for EDUCATION, HEALTH and other Services that cost money but are rendered to Eritreans for free.” How do you know where the money from the mining is going to, have you seen any audit or any budgetary information form the PFDJ regime that shows where it is spending the income from the mining?
        Regarding what the Justice Fighters have done to your yPFDJ ‘Hitlerjugend’ style grouping, I think you’re still in shock? Just wait, more is to come; Eritreans have identified their primary enemy, and they would not let you PFDJ/yPFDJ thugs disseminate your toxic agenda or intimidation anymore. You will be faced with sheer opposition everywhere you go, and
        and you will be relegated to your dark rooms.
        Your P.S. question, yes I do believe and respect the freedom of speech, no matter whether I agree with others’ opinion or not; BUT, this belief of mine DOESN’T include the enforcers of repression of freedom of speech, i.e. the PFDJ and thier supporters. You cannot ban the Eritrean people from their basic human rights, including shutting their mouths, and demand ‘freedom of speech’, that is simply stupid. Let alone your freedom of speech, I wouldn’t even allow you to conduct meetings and operate freely in the free democratic world. PFDJ and all its affiliated criminal groups like YPFDJ are TERRORIST groups and should be BANNED.

        • ‘Gheteb

          Hi Abraham H.,

          Where does Eritrea get “a lot of development aid, grants and loans, without which it cannot meet funding for its services and projects”?

          From The World Bank? Maybe IMF? Or, from the USA? Could it be from some sources of financiers sub rosa? Your Google Earth and that of Medrek may have captured it while the transactions were in the process.

          Sure, Eritrea may get a meagre amount of aid/loan from EU, China and African Development Bank for some specified projects. But let me tell you that is a mere drop in the Eritrean National budget. Just take an honest stock of your own household budget to get an idea of what the Eritrean National budget may look like.

          Have you ever thought or even bothered to ask Aba Khebdu about what the actual size were when he was heading the U of A and other departments during his days with the GoE? I think you are way too obsessed with your Google Earth toy to even do a simple investigation.

          Have you ever wondered where the source of the money that the GoE uses to defray for all of its national expenses. Just take the money it needs to pay health care workers, teachers and members of the national service, just to name a few.

          The Eritrean national budget is NOT subsidized trough a USA/EU led loans and grants. The only two sources are income generated from the mining sector and what is broadly known as “joint ventures” and revenues from tax receipts. One need not see or know about the Eritrean national budget nor does s/he need to conduct an audit to know where the GoE is getting the money to pay for all the services it renders to Eritreans.

          Why did you fail to mention what you have found out about the ongoing multi-million construction of the Mai Nefhi IT college? Could it be that things that point towards ‘Nation Building’ and national developments are not your thing and you, like your Mederk folks, are only obsessed with finding things that you believe the GoE is trying to conceal and hide that give more to conspiracy theories?

          And, you are saying that your belief in the rights to free speech only applies to you, your Mederk folks and others birds of feather. You think that those you are depicting as “TERRORISTS” should be “BANNED”? Great to confirm that you and by extension the whole Eritrean opposition group paraphernalia are a bunch of hypocrites who have been mouthing about rule of law and paying lip service to civil liberties.

          Your anti-PFDJ campaigns, therefore, are not for the attainments of these democratic ideals, but rather for settling some other personal vendettas and some other personal grievances.

        • Haile Zeru

          Hi Abraham,
          PFDJ mafia do not know how to say THANK YOU. It is not part of their vocabulary.
          They disparage, black mail everybody around them.
          And cult members like Gheteb are the loudspeakers of the system.

    • Selamat Abraham H.,

      Make no mistake MANJUSAY!!! Crime, intimidation Agazian Domestic Terrorism and the shields of CORRUPT Opposition/Pro or figure Head Poltical Appointees will NOT protect YOU from THE WRATH OF GiTSATSE.

      Simple Enough for YOU? Have RESPECT! UNBOUND!

      Change YOUF FALSE NARATIVE.

      Make A STAND ON 17!

      Abu Ashera Weaopkn X

      tSAtSE

  • Haile Zeru

    Moderator,
    As per the rules of Awate.com Gheteb should be banned. He is not free to insult Eritrean tribes, Ethinic groups and regions.
    Or he should issue an official apology for the crap he said about Seraye, MensaE etc..

    • Simon Kaleab

      Selam Haile Z.,

      So, if you can’t beat him with arguments then ban him [‘bun’ him as you would say].

      • ‘Gheteb

        Selam Simon Kaleab,

        Haile Z may want me to be “bunned”, but deep down he may not mind that I get “bunned” and “BURNED” simultaneously!

    • sara

      Dear Zeru,
      its a week day and links are not permitted , but i want you to read about a play writer in egypt named Ali salim what he has to say in such instances that it matches awate forum rules….

      “It is a person’s right to hold differing views and ideas, as long as he doesn’t espouse violence or aggression. Let ideas do combat with each other, theory against theory, for the benefit of the nation.” — Ali Salim

      • Haile Zeru

        Hi Sara,

        Nice try. Sorry for the late response.

        The following is awate.com posting guideline:

        “25.6 It is okay to criticize a political ideology but it is not okay to attack a collective identity (race, ethnicity, tribe, region, religion, nationality, gender, etc). Doing so will result in immediate suspension/ban.”

        Gheteb has transgressed this guideline. So he should be banned immediately.

        Keren is a multi ethnic, and linguistic city. hardly a day passes without hearing a Tigrayit, Bilen or Tigrinya.
        Because of their cultural exposure Kerenites will not speak about other ethnic groups the way Gheteb is talking. His is not from Keren. He is using Keren as a smoke screen.

        Which tribe, Ethnic group or genealogy he belongs to is irrelevant. culturally he is not from Keren. That does not take his right to say his opinion. But it does not give him a license either to slander Eritrean Communities.

  • Thomas

    Thanks, Amma. You clearly have stated the truth. I agree 100% with you. I wish Eritrea was gifted with more of you types, as principled and very understanding as you are. Antai emo mis elfi getsabat terifna!! That is how sad our situation is.

  • Selamat GhezaE Hagos,

    April Sixteen is the last day of Income Tax filing for Citizens of The United States. And the ‘re Satire is the timing of your article contribution which I believe is fiction at all. I believe you authored it to prepare for the possible loss of The Orange Amsterdam current debacle new battle, and prepare Eritrean Opposition backers of the “Boycot The Eritrean Diaspora 2% flat income tax” decades old front line have personally spearheaded, which will be made mute by the can of warms of the legal kind it has opened. Softened of course by Saay7 with quick on his feet “It is Satire” rescue.

    I have told you personally that I opposed The campaign of Diaspora Tax Boycott and mob Eri-Oppo-Pole, as in interpole, international task force your Elite Force Brgaid assembled, NOT because I consider Eritreas “Opposition” Cause as unjust. I opposed your Anti-Diaspora Tax initiative and campaign because IT WAS A HOREBDOUS MISS-Application of Henry David Therou’ s Civil Disobbedience in his oppositton to his periods INJUSTICE inflicted by the American Government on his fellow Human Citizens. The Eritrean Anti-Diaspora Tax is also a mix application of Boston Harbor’s Revolt- The Boston Tea Party with The motto “No Taxation with out Representation.” Though utilized as two justifications and scholarly footnote refrences for the un initiated supporters to back a destructive and unjust battle the Learned Elites have drawn for them, the presidence cases of Henry Therou’s and The Boston Tea Party are NOT EXACTLY SIMILAR to the Injustices by “GoE/PFDJ” (The Bi-Polar Mental Disorder Party) which I personally recognized abd had a jump on. Though I voiced to you my opposition to your campaign of Anti-Tax and occasionally on the commented publicly my stance against it OR JUST SIMPLY NEVER ENDIRSED IT, much like Saay7’s From Within or From Without Change contemplations, Mr. Yohannes Zerrai’s THEME, l will now give you why until this STAND on SEVENTEEN marker. I opted to steer clear from your path. My reason is THE DIVIDE between those GoE Scholarship Recipients sent abroad to pursue Higher Learning in The field of Law, such as GezaE. and many others fields by others for the sole purpose of RECONSTRUCTION and the original Exodus Wave post Year 2001 such as the notorious duo of Milkias and companion AND their decades in exile couterparts of which rational will be provided with THE Title Abu Ashera Weapon X. I personally decided to give unhindered path to The Anti-Diaspora tax out of obedience for the Defacto Leaders and decision makers of Just Opposition Cause I strongly advocated LONG LONG before 1991. The “Defacto” Eritrean Opposition gave precedence to the SELECT headliner grabbing personalities over drawing from the experiences of Eritreans “Young” aged. those dubbed as “The Amiches of The West.” The Eritrean Opposition utilized President Isayas Afewirki’s “Ab Jubakhum Hizkimo tSinHu” our decisions are based on solid contemplations since THE SUN ROSE, (Msss WegHiet Meriet) and just as we trusted the leadership of btsott Isayas abd Sherifo, despite our shreded challenges of ours the RALLYING CRY OF THE PERSECTED AND FLEEING BONDAGE at the rate Nine Thousand per Month drowned out the voice of reasons from the perspectives of their longer Western Culture know how. And The Great Hopefulls Academic Champions in our example Fresh OUT of Law School we’re enticed to argue or advocate cases above and beyond their field experuence/pay grade. And misapplied Therou’s and Tea Party as presidence to AAKAT JUICE with out clearly understanding those Two Cases of Civil Disobbedience and Uprising against the Kings taxation WERE for APPLE Juice.
    The more coherent arguments will be made clearer in the Abu Ashera Papers. And You Sir, now with more field experience are realizing the campaign you championed fresh out of law school has began to unravel because your field expertise sees the possibility of the rejection of the rational WHEN AND IF ARGUED IN HIGHER COURTS.

    HENCE SATIRE And Shock Therapy for the Base that followed the trusted learned men. You are safe you Will not have to own it. I will own it for you due to my silence and “abb jubbay zGazkuo.” On this STAND on 17 and The Abu Ashera Weapon X marker however, allow me to GIVE YOU AND ALL WHO QUESTION “WHAT GOOD REASON COULD THE SAHARA AND LAMPADUSA Island fleeing persecution, would have to join the very PFDJ party responsible for their pains?” They Join The YPFDJ to draw lessons of deeper understandings of the free lands they now find themselves by uniting with Diaspora Born Brethren SO THAT THEY LEARN OF OPPIRTUNITIES AND THE LIMITE OF THE FREEDOMS of The West as They encourage and teach further first hand understandings HOW “AfriQawit Korea” is really governed BY WHOME etc.. etc…

    The Dividing by giving of the YOUTH strategy which was addopted by Eritrean Opposition Defacto “Road To Dembelas/Denmark” was an EPLF strategy born on THE SECOND And Unifying with ELF-Sagem Congress. Thouhh, yours Turkey was an honored Elected Delegate, unlike our Esteamed Ismael AA who had The honor to attend and The Second Congress of The ELF in 1975, for $;#:;&_ reasons I was ubable., more like hindered to attend. But the Strategy of dividing Eritrean Youth was devised and delivered to the, though ready thin diaspora YEPLF, was made even more thinner by my co-elected delegate btSAy Elias Amare. Whereas the PFDJ/YPFDJ drew from that decision to DIVIDE The Youth and Student orgs of back then, our ERITREAN defacto Road map civil engineers adapted That strategy for a quick victory. Not their first political miscalulatio.
    Now there is no cause for celebration by the YPFDJ members because the false NARATIVES they are also victimized equally if not greater then their counter part Eritrean Youth in The Opposition.

    Just as Eritrean Youth Organization which aggressively engineered the hostile takeover of Eritrea’s Student Association under EPLF, BY DESIGN AND IRRATIONAL FEAR, rendered innovative and productive youth in their entiret as DIRECTIVE OBEDIENT AND UN ANALYTICAL
    without power, save the few privileged inheritors of PFDJ assets AND RENDERIBG THE organization YPFDJ with absolutely ZERO EQUITABLE DUSTRIBUTION OF THE REAL WEALTH THAT BELONGS TO THE ERITREAN PEOPLE.

    Not championing the Ideals of The Just Eritrean Revolution and The goals of Liberty And JUSTICE for all by accepting directives and never registering INTERNAL YPFDJ Organizational challenges against injustices suffered by their fellow Eritrean Citezens at The hands of the parent party that is PFDJ is only proof that YPFDJ is TOOTHLESS when it comes to influencing and swaying JUSTICE PEACE PROSPERITY within The Eritrean Map and BEYOND in the HoA, Arabian Penninsula, the African Continent and the very communities of their Diaspora homes. Narrating the glorious brave history of Haraka, ELF and EPLF permanent testament of Resiliancy and Making a Stance for One’s Rights does NOT make YPFDJ a contributor and builder on that generations wealth. Rather, a front for the very few in possetion of the Eritrean People’s Wealth and a Shield of Security who plans to inherit matterial wealth and the assets of their “parents” who are members , and if owners -In name only.

    Eritrean Revolutionary Ideals and Armed war for liberation is JUST. The War was JUST, though there
    were numerous battles within that war THAT WERE UNJUST. The unjust battles within the Just Eritrean War for Independence are to bravely truthfully be admitted with bravery and corrected immediately through ‘reconciliation. The unjust battles such as AuguR HidHid shall not be dismissed as inconsequential and used as the BASIS to discredit the sacrifices of several Eritrean generations which IS: Eritrean Independence And The Liberty and Equitable JUSTICE for Every Eritrean Citizen.

    This post will post briefly and removed for editing to make my points clearer.

    FOR NOW I WILL CLOSE WITH
    MY SUVGESTION AND URGENT. CALL to the entire YPFDJ organization by testing their true power, wealth and contribution to humanity by MAKING THEIR STAND ON 17! For JUSTICE and announcing their Orgs autonomous plans to right the wrongs of their parent organization and the past to heal and secure what is important.

    This holding the Bridge of DfaE UNBOUND tSAtSE has not even refrenced a single document.

    The NOT Hype prolonged stage prior to Dual Pronged blitz to follow is by design.

    GezaE Hagos spearheading of the anti-tax campaign commenced it’s unraveling on Tax Day of April 16. How Ironic. The false narrativest will be exposed fully AND TGE ERITREAN YOUTH OF THE OPPOSITION WILL BE COMPELED AND DENANDED TO STAND FOR THE TRUTH AND JUSTICE.

    Collectively or the aggregate Eritrean Youth is to forge a United STAND ON SECENTEEN.

    Abu Ashera Weapon X that is Evolutionary in it’s Nature will command The Trail Blazers of Eritrea AND ETHIOPJA for that matter. THAT Revolution weapons for that region is a weapon inferior to THIS EVOLVED ABU ASHERA JENARI SEWRA.

    tSAtSE

    NB: Editing will be gradual as the trademark tSAtSE posts are perfectly okay to repell the speedy production of absurd abd FALSE COUNTER NARRATIVES

    • ‘Gheteb

      Hey Tsa Tse,

      Can I ask for a bit more clarification on the following sentences that grabbed my attention.

      (1) ” The more coherent arguments will be made clearer in the Abu Ashera Papers”.

      “The Abu Ashera Papers”, sounds to me something quite as original as “The Bailey Avenue Papers” in conjunction with “The Minnesota Avenue Papers”. I am thinking as I am walking between the two Avenues, of course, mentally!

      (2) ” And misapplied Therou’s and Tea Party as presidence to AAKAT JUICE with out clearly understanding those Two Cases of Civil Disobbedience and Uprising against the Kings taxation WERE for APPLE Juice”.

      “AAKAT JUICE” Vs. “APPLE JUICE”. I think, my man, Tsa Tse, is into something deep here. I am still thinking and thinking and thinking!

      • Selamat Gheteb,

        In spite of our mutually agreed upon parting of ways in our political different choices of roads, with your Senior/Upper Classman leadership in more ways than that just one, I am quite sure you recollect very well on that one meeting at Yousuf and Kibrom’s apartment meeting that was attended by the Buffalo State College, ECC and UB students that gave a unanimous consensus support in both words and deed to the both yours and mine mission to found the Eritrean Student Association after were denied the our right of the utilization of African Student Union, paid for with our Student Union Fees because of our brother Lasana of Burkina Faso and his Ethiopia home to OAU where his father/uncle was served as a direct diplomat. The pretext was Secessionist like the destructive Biafra of Eastern Nigeria and the Pan Africanists significant preaence.

        Though the manouvers to get the up vote from The Student Union Senate is a story worth telling, the proudest moment was the total agreements achieved by Eritrea’s young from both the ELF And EPLF perauations, I.e. The Kojhob tSibaH and Red Flowers as well as the HaMaTeA Gheteb….

        It was the SPIRIT of give and take to be full owners of the ERITREAN Union we were embarking to form — By clearly charting our own path and rejecting the role of EPLF central directives as absolute truth that is a contradiction to the inquisitive nature of The Student who should be left unhindered with his/her search of formulating innovative and more efficient ways than the leadership of their societies. In our case it was EPLF Central of Abraham Mao, Fikre, Elias Amare and other wufuyat out of the 3RD Floor of 99th and Broadway. (And no, there were no 40 Ozs of Old English on one hand and 40 Ozs. of Colt 45 on the other.)

        The genious concessions we made to the with ELF background Students suspicions and legitimate challenges they raised was reciprocated in with their full acceptance in passing the Resolution of adapting Be it Timhirti Sewra as The Official Sister School of UB’s ESA, though in retrospect knowing what I know now I would have added the Eritrean Refugees Camps of the Sudan that started with The 1967 Exodus duectobthe Ad Ibrahim massacre by Ethiopia ‘s Totserawit and Commandis.

        Though this is just an excerpt of the five to six long years Ruff Buff life, the Baily Papers were the within mandate and duty of the co first co officers and founding fathers of the resurgent Eritrean Student Union AND the contents documented by Elias Amare as the videographer on August of 1991 are read into the records. And Gheteb in spite of your political stance now in defense of EPLF/Eritrea, though perplexed at first, I believe I have come to a rational of The overall picture you are considering with clarity and staying confined within the organizational allowances of parameters. The Baily Papers and the historical farsightedness of the long hours of deliberations that you are the co auther of will be appreciated and appraised for it’s unique value while 99.8% of Eritreans including the Exiled ELF Rank and file, save a few, afforded the EPLF leadership some Grace period for their deservedly celebrations of national hero’s without RAISING ELF’S equal contributions and sacrifices as that of the EPLF. The Baily Papers wasted not a precious moment in delivering The Promise of original founding members of the Eritrean Student Association long before the exodus of those who by directive through cajoling of Dred Lock tSAtSE, and the comedic tragedy of the rediculous plea transferred the chairmanship to the TRUSTED ONES! Opting for what Saay7 coined UNBOUND status even then.
        The point of emphasising The Baily Papers and THE MOM Mentality of The opposition youth, old, rank and file of labeling and putting undue pressures on PFDJ or NonPFDJ that do refuse to condone every directive, strategy and fundamentally futile to the stated goals and charting any and all outcomes nut PFDJ makes The opposition exactly the same as we’ll as outside of the mandates they possess. Gedli Trail Blazers on my side of the Isle, are with wisdom through their vast experiences of pre and post 1991 and still on going struggles. I believe my personal mission is to instil REAL power that can broker policies on behalf of the Eritrean People and steer the Leadership in power’s policies by seeing to fruition of the Eritrean Youth Opposition and or the YPFDJ as a testament to their power that is REAL and their readiness to take leadership positions.

        And the first and vital challenge is TheircTaking STAND ON SEVENTEEN and bringing into a resolution of every political conciencience Eritrean Prisoner without delay. Short of this –The Abu Ashera Papers will prove to be a migraine headache of a life time and the periodic down down Isaias chants and marches and the comforts all have found in their cosey corners will very much be missed. Gheteb, I am confident you will adapt and attack the common enemy from within PFDJ change when you gain traction of the p
        these Abu Ashera Weoalon X papers. But as I have made my declarations of wAR, I am not at all interested in compromising what I am duty obliged by my Oath as every read flower “To pick up the arms of our fallen comrads.” That numerous from my own ganta have sacrificed their lives for. And I truly believe the opposition has been compromised and has fallen. Those who will certainly bruised are advised to fortify their trenches and or adapt from PFDJ’S play book of by trying deep ample literature and or simply shredding them. The Opposition Youth and the YPFDJ will be informed. The decision will be theirs to either remain TOOTHLESS and directives recipients that move whichever direction the Powerful downloaded codes at their whim into their Robotic Bodies. The Real opposition date back pre the Second Congress of The EPLF by tSAtSE with the frustrating challenges if The Genmal MeHaned Feki, Elias Amares Kidanes etc while simultaneously producing results more than a single individual’s share. SaliH Jihar Ghadi is not the only one with allergies to political indoctrination. This phase of NOT HYPE is only the delay tacktic and to give ample time if notice for many to self correct.

        The biggest prize and fight will be for Saay7. And I hate to dusapp
        disappoint my WISE Hippo of Tekeze River Bank Ghana. I claimed dibs on the Value of Saay7 long before your Fantiness or The website awate wad in existence. Visafriq was the battle ground and DEMOSOPHIA was the title.
        The Demand is not renaigin on Blue Island Agreed Proposal. And The Second One is visible and constructive change of Narative that is impartial, fair and objective. Do not let the writing ability shortcomings fool ya.

        Abu Ashera Weapon X wields LEVERAGE.

        You can start to think of tSAtSE as Eritrea’s version of Forest Gump. And “Run Forest Run” as well As thec12.7% offering no has no effect whatsoever.

        A month ago I lost a good Solid Truthful Young Eritrean Friend Adil who hails from the great Eritrean City of Keren. A freak and inexplicable accident where he was hit by an Amtrack Train in Hayword, CA.
        Making real the Tigrigna Speakers correlation of Speaking Truth and Sleeping on the Train Tracks.
        We STAND on SEVENTEEN.
        Battle for Dignity and not territory is at stake.
        tSAtSE

      • Hey Gheteb,

        I totally avoided your question. I tend to rather choose not to engage with the PFDJites amongst us. Until now with the recent trends that is provoking me to do my part and apply all my transferable skills from schools of knowledge and experience.

        I see the Aajakat and Apple juice you have picked up on. The “Dafla Mob” you counter suit you have brought and you first insisting on Cuz Saay7 not to invoke civil disobedience coincides with GhezaE Hagos’ , in my opinion with good reasoning, a miss application of the two concepts utilized to justify the anti-Diaspora tax of national and international impact for what I think is to big to undertake for s new practitioner of law. I oppose whole heartedly that particular strategy by the Just Eritrean Opposition as well as the Sanction movements. And will address it thoroughly. In this attempt which is rather a poorely and incoherent commen, I was drawing from my long American residency and the General sence that it takes years and numerous littigations With near perfect wins over losses of cases, before a lawyer reads a case with national ramification and reads a case in the supreme court.

        The comparison of war devastated for the second time that is already strangulted by an infant war reconstruction effiet, sanctions, no war no peace etc.. to compare the poor an indire need of basic need necessities with King George if England who taxes his far away colonies to enrich his personal vault is a stretch no matter how elastic and law practioner makes can not possibly use the Boston Tea Party as a legal precedence.

        Your presence in the forum is actually partly some sort of a catalyst to hence forth live up to the high standards the subject matter and the challenge declarations demands. Trust me I am have now gathered all the boulders, dug all the ditches and cut all the timber and have fortified Degen to proceed as planned.

        I am also rather very fond of GhezaE Hagos who was the only one that has reached out to with sincere compassion for my personal well being which is not a reason for my statement of him being my favorite . Other my private declaration of my opposition to the two projects and strategy he is passionately pursuing and not promoting by sharing his petitions this is the first public arguments I have raised. I have a hunch he and others may be feeling a lot more than satirical. It just doesn’t feel quite the right time for commic relief after war drumming through port Djibouti and the Amsterdam YPFDJ be slammed cage the Monkey success.

        But this is rather odd. Here I am consorting with a the enemy for the first time may be in over a decade or more.

        With the exception if KndishiH Nitric. Hey, TOOTHLESS YPFDJ Mentor, did you secure the requested document from Elias Amare? Nitric Things Fall Appart. And Fall Apart they will…

        There is no holding back tSAtSE’s Abu Ashera Weapon X of Evolution.

        I have set an internal deadline for August of 17. The gig is up- Bring as many if not all righteous YPFDJ members And Make a STAND Against Injustice on 17!

        You TOO Gheteb. No one will be exempt or spared from the impending wrath.

        This is the last inch I will concede.

        tSAtSE

  • tes

    Selam Ghezae Hagos,

    You disappointed me to have such an insight to PFDJ circles. These kind of information is only expected from Gheteb, Nitric and Robel(Simon is useless PFDJ adherent). You predicted every word they could address, most probably you were involved in the brainstorming phase of YPFDJ statement(now hanging in shabait wall).

    Two possibilities:

    1. You were the master of statement relsease to the ypfdj paradoxy
    2. You are a master of conspiracy

    Either way you are a PFDJ spy agent

    To my message: With lots of appreciation for your professional but satire input. It hits back every single word of PFDJ for their next move.

    tes

  • Selamat Awatistas,

    From: the Speeches of MALCOLM C at Harvard, I will share this quote from the preface.

    Each time Malcolm X came to Harvard someone spoke in opposition at the same forum. The speakers took this controversial man seriously, altthough all of them did not agree with his solution to the Negro problem. As a result, we also have a critical appraisals of the Black Muslims, Malcolm X, and the American Negro civil rights movement.

    The above paragraph is an omage to the American Government’s Infrastructure with it’s Pillars if Checks and Balances that rewards the Nation continuous positive progress and as The Champion of Justice and The Rule of Law.

    My commentary on the Netherlands and the YPFDJ as well As the blurred factual and fictional/Satire and more will follow.

    As I have captured enough ammunition from The proverbial liberation if Barentu Town, I will head SewiE Ibrahim Afar’s field command expertise, as he is my personal opinion as a candidate to be considered
    Architect in Chief of the EPLF. I. commandeer a tactical strategic withdrawal with my loot of armaments ahead of SENTINELS Werrar inflicting costly damage to the over all cause. Eritreans should be mindful that holding on to false NARATIVES and futile strategies due to ego can indeed be detrimental TO JUSTICE.

    We are in the erra of Google Docs, cloud computing far from the decades of WYSIWYG Lotus123 Spreadsheets, Fortran punch cards (Hidden Figures) BITS and BYTES and TRANSISTER Radios receivers of The Peoples Voice. Word Press abd Human Innovations to increase knowledge and progress TRUMPS the CONTROLS OF THE MACHINE. “Nay werre maEkennat Radio Alem Kulenn.

    And to my COMMRAD IN ARMS!!! Gheteb The Metkelawi!!! In spite our seemingly opposite stance, HOLD THAT BRIDGE as we shall with “Nayy Habarr guEzennan tSAErinan” will WILL achieve the certain victory of OUR CAUSE** You ARE as HOT as the Cavaliers LeBron James, hence General Tzos Campow Chicken.
    As I AM A Raider’s and Dub Nations TEAM over Franchise fan… The Warriors are engaged in the first round against TEAM TRAILBLAZERS. And As Klyde Drexler, Ab Jubana Hiznayoo nkhndeyy krammat btIEzaz we shall now utilize to GIVE THE EDGE TO THE: WARRIORS over Trail blazers. This is no HYPE.
    So I urge YOU Gheteb to blow your Buffalo Soldier’s UB RAMS and Call on all Eritrean Youth of the Opposition and YPFDJ to STAND United For JUSTICE and To Stomp out Any Injustices on humanity with THEIR UNITED ERITREAN VANGUARD WARRIOR BOOTS!
    Stay steadfast in your stance and current argumentation offensive on The Daffla Group, The YPFDJ’s event Dutch debacle this Satire etc…. All just to cage a certain monkey named Yemane Ghebreab.

    And I shall outflank the False Narratives and myth of millenias “blessings by divinity” stories of MYTH.
    As Robert Nests Marley has amplified this TRUTH: “Half The Story has Never Been Told, and now you see the Light! What cha gonna do your going to STAND UP FOR YOUR RIGHT!” Tough Gong RAISING THE POWER OF JUNIOR GONG!!!

    ERITREAN YOUTH STAND UNITED ON 17!
    YPFDJ: “Awedatt Erey idkumm habbuna nlomi zeykonea nmeAss kekhonenna, Awalid Erey idknn Habanna nlomi zeykonnee nmeAss kikhonenna.” Tekhle AdHanom AfriQWit Vietnam

    Do not be fooled into accepting the lies and false narratives that paints The Eritrean Revolution As Unjust.

    Sewrana FiTHawin Alemawinn iyu. The Eritrean Revution for Self Determination is Just and Universal

    And You ALL OF ERITREAN YOUTH will complete the last leg of the relay with YOUR UNITED “ERITREAN OPPOSITION” Plus “YPFDJ”

    STAND ON SEVENTEEN!!!

    And my Real first name is Insigni, my middle name us Fic, and my Sir Name is Ant. I have deep pockets despite the my REAL name said fast spells out INSIGNIFICANT.

    Leave The Eritrean Trail Blazers, the Giant King Kong’s, the WISE ISHMAELS, to come to a RECONCILIATION and Right Decision for the Future along with “The Best” SaliHs.

    Regrouped The Abu Ashera Weapon X counter offensive shall commence shortly.

    And yes, the Weapon X Abu Ashera is The Symbolic Weapon picked up by Tomorrow Stars and Red Roses which belonged to Eritreans Fallen Herros. Only now as it is will be handed to you IT WILL BE A WEAPON OF EVOLUTION (Not armed revolution.

    And IT is NO HYPE! So Belive Eri Youth… Evolutionary and Innovative Warriors! “Come out And Playyy-”

    Stand Togetget for JUSTICE! Make The STAND on 17!!!

    This is NO HYPE. Expect the academics and scholarly arguments to follow as complements to Gheteb “The

    DfaE tSAtSE is aptly
    Equiped with the Dean of The School of Philosophy at The University of Buffalo. Professor Newton Garver’s lessons of Overt and Covert Violence
    post the PERTINENT hype designed towards THE ERITREAN YOUTH, of The Opposition and YPFDJ, Abu Ashera Weapon X will “Chase Those Crazy Bald Heads OUT of Town.”

  • Stefanos Temelso

    Hi all, The PFDJ doesn’t learn from its experience. Year before last they sued professor Miriam Van Reisen and they lost utterly. They tried to vent their vengeance and restore the morale of their thugs by holding the YPFDJ annual meeting in Veldhoven but it turned out to be a fiasco. Now they are suing the Mayor! These guys are very stupid indeed. How come they ask for freedom of speech and gathering while they deny this to their people? Do they really know what the term means? I wonder if they know what they are doing. This shows that their sole aim is only vengeance and bitterness against peace loving people.

    • ‘Gheteb

      Hi Stefanos Temelso,

      You say: ” Now they are suing the Mayor!”. Really? Where did you get that information from? Do you mind citing a credible source as to when and where the YPFDJ has filed this motion of suing the Mayor of Veldhoven?

      You, also, claimed that ” How come they ask for freedom of speech and gathering while they deny this to their people?”. Now, telling me when, where and how they [ the YPFDJ members] DENIED the freedom of speech “to their people”? What power do these young Eritreans possess to DENY the Eritrean people the right to free speech.

      Hating and opposing the PFDJ for personal reasons is one thing, accusing baselessly a group of Eritrean kids coming of age is quite another.

      So, Wedi-Temelso, your muddied and utterly jumbled take on what occurred and materialized in Veldhoven regarding the YPFDJ Conference, leaves a lot to be desired. I hope you see that you are barking the wrong tree here.

      • Kebessa

        ‘Gheteb,

        Stefanos failed to reply on timely basis, so I will have to fill in the vacuum (I hope I got vacuum’s absurd spelling right)

        1) I don’t think lawsuit has initiated. Stefanos is probably being victim of Gezae’s satire. But there is a threat of…not sure what, “The organisers of YPFDJ along with all participants of the Conference and the vast organised Diaspora and justice seeking Europeans will seek to redress the injustice in every possible way and will make its plans clear in short period of time.”

        2) Steve is accurate on the hypocricy of the regime. The only way you can discredit that is if you establish YPFDJ has nothing to do with the PFDJ. Otherwise, WHICH section of the regime is doing the injustices back home is irrelevant.

        3) Is it your understanding there is one snd only one to hating PFDJ – personal grievance?

        4) In all of the defeaning screams you PFDJites are doing about the inconveniencing of the YPFDJ and discovering ‘freedom of assembly’ in the process, I am not hearing a single word about your views on the severe deprivation of freedom of assembly, speech…back home. Let me give you one more opportunity to address that.

        • ‘Gheteb

          Kebessa,

          The issue is what happened in Veldhoven, The Netherlands and NOT the state of conditions in Eritrea. So, yours and others attempt to talk about this and that is a clear sing of your unwillingness to face what your comrades who call themselves as “Justice Seekers” did in obstructing a conference of young Eritreans.

          Well, I think that you guys have a short attention span and here I am to remind you what the so-called Justice Seekers were up to in Beldhoven under the leadership of the THUG MASTER, Kibrom Dafla. Here he is in his own word, Wedi-Dafla showing it all.

          ” This call is to those living in Holland, especially those in vicinity of Eindhoven, to go to the conference place at Veldhoven today. Our going there is the only precondition to close or block the conference. The city administration [of Veldhoven] and the [Dutch] central government is waiting for our opposition. In order to close down the conference they need our opposition. The press and media have all flocked there. This is a historical opportunity that we must not lose. Those in the vicinity of Eindhoven should be at the place ahead of us at 2:00 [PM]. And we shall catch up there later. There’s no other preparation needed. Many “justice seekers” from all over the world are giving us money and morale support for going to Veldhoven. The media and the government are sympathetic with us. Disseminate my message widely through Facebook and Twitter. Make phone calls to remind those in Holland. Call all people you know.”

          Don’t bring the PFDJ or the Eritrean Government here as they have not uttered one word about this incidence.

          • Haile Zeru

            Hi all,

            Gheteb said:

            “Don’t bring the PFDJ or the Eritrean Government here….”

            Why not? What is Yemane doing in Holland?

            Gheteb said: ” Wedi-Dafla showing it all.
            This call is to those living in Holland, especially those in vicinity of Eindhoven, to go to the conference place at Veldhoven today. Our going there is the only precondition to close or block the conference. The city administration [of Veldhoven] and the [Dutch] central government is waiting for our opposition. In order to close down the conference they need our opposition. The press and media have all flocked there. This is a historical opportunity that we must not lose. Those in the vicinity of Eindhoven should be at the place ahead of us at 2:00 [PM]. And we shall catch up there later. There’s no other preparation needed. Many “justice seekers” from all over the world are giving us money and morale support for going to Veldhoven. The media and the government are sympathetic with us. Disseminate my message widely through Facebook and Twitter. Make phone calls to remind those in Holland. Call all people you know.”

            THIS SOUNDS CLASSIC!!!. Wedi Dafla knows what he is doing. This is the way to measure, evaluate friends and enemies and execute ones plan.

            As Gheteb can see from his own words, Wedi Dafla is organizing a peaceful demonstration. No where in this paragraph we see incitement for violence.

      • Stefanos Temelso

        Hi Gheteb or rather GAHTAF who is not confident to show his real name. If you have the the confidence please write in your real name. I don’t want to talk to dirty ghosts.

        • ‘Gheteb

          Hi Stefanos Temelso,

          You got caught parading your utter IGNORANCE here. And, when you are cornered to produce credible sources for your baseless claims, you ended up showing your true and VULGAR character in a matter fitting to those thugs and hoodlums as led by Kibrom Dafla of “the Daffla Thugs”. I made my case and that is all I care about.

          For all I care, Wedi-Temelso, you can wallow in your own ተምላስ (Temlas).

        • Thomas

          Hi Stev,

          I cannot agree more with you, he is the most “GAHTAF” person I have never heard off in life!

          • Abi

            Tommy
            What is GAHTAF?
            And why is important if someone uses nick or real name? I think you respond to a content not to a name or a nickname.

          • Thomas

            Hi Abi,

            “Kift A’f”, someone with big mouth:)

          • Abi

            Thanks Tommy
            If you call Gheteb “GAHTAF” that means he was
            only guffawing.

          • ‘Gheteb

            Hi Abi,

            No, I am not guffawing. Actually, I laugh until my TUMMY hurts whenever the simpleton “Thomas the dweller of the FISH TUMMY” speaks from inside the darkness of the fish, if you know what I mean!

          • Abi

            Hi Gheteb
            I’m learning to read my bible.

          • Thomas

            Hi Abi,

            On your second questions, “why is important if someone uses nick or real name?”. It matters most when you are supporting someone in power (the Eritrean regime in this case) and that means you and your families are safe because you are supporting the regime. What reasons can you have to write behind nicknames? At worst, you will only be called “HODAM”.

          • Abi

            Hi Tommy
            Wasn’t everybody supporter of the regime?
            He has to use a nick to protect his family back home. What if Semere Andom or any Agazian recruited by Semere attack Gheteb’s family?

          • Thomas

            Hi Abi,

            Now, you are playing me now:) You made me to think hard, it could because he can see change coming and he is wanted to serve the next government as the next “HODAM”. This is if the next government is looking to hire people who have experiences being former “Hodams”. “HODMAS” will always be “HODAM” as such they cannot have a firm stand (if Gheteb had a firm stand he would have come with his real name).

          • Thomas

            Hi Abi,

            You can never stop being funny, right? If that is the case, we will be his real nightmare (we = the justice seekers). He has been inviting us for long time. Though, I know he is coward he will go “I didn’t do nothing”:)

          • ‘Gheteb

            Thomas,

            You are indeed a SIMPLTON. Just read your sentence below to confirm that you are still residing inside the darkness of a fish belly.

            ” he is the most “GAHTAF” person I have never heard of in life!”. NEVER heard of in life. NEVER? and, whose LIFE are you talking about here? You are indeed one sorry and clueless person!

          • Thomas

            Hi Gheteb,

            Your comment above was written 6 minutes ago, but mind was written 37 minutes so what the heck are you talking about?

          • ‘Gheteb

            Thomas,

            You got caught before changing ”NEVER” to “EVER” and now you are acting as if you are that innocent. Do you see why I think that you are one unabashed SIMPLTON?

          • Abi

            Hi Gheteb
            Are you mixing Thomas ( ተጠራጣሪው ቶማስ) with ዮናስ who spent 3 days in the belly of a whale?

          • Thomas

            Hi Abi,

            I wonder if this guy has a job. I think he is married to the PC monitor:) Or does he get paid to write his nonsense here?

          • Abi

            Tommy
            Let us talk something important.
            Champions League !!!!

          • Thomas

            Hi Abi,

            I love soccer but I have avoided any kind of sports (watching or playing). I can tell however there is nothing wrong with playing soccer or watching it on TV or in person. I see people calling themselves after white players and I seem to have no problem with that:)

          • ‘Gheteb

            Hi Abi,

            You are right and my bad. I admit that I may have mixed up the two. You see I am not that conversant in such tales as that of the Bible.

            Having said that, this does not detract from the fact that Thomas is one unabashed SIMPLTON who edited a “NEVER” to “EVER” when caught red handed and claimed that he didn’t do anything wrong. He is a CHEATING Thomas and never a DOUBTING Thomas

          • iSem

            Gheteb:
            instead of splitting hair on stupid things and agonizing over trivial issues, why do not you prove you are not GAHTAF or you are better yet, why don’t you reveal your name to disprove me wrong that you are a corrupting kids in the Eri community

          • Stefanos Temelso

            You R more than 100% right brother!!

    • Haile Zeru

      Hi Stefanos,

      With the likes of Kubrom, Miriam Van Reisen, and hopefully Elsa Chirum joining they should put in motion a legal proceeding to bun YPFDJ from all EU cities. I guess they could use some of UN findings of COI to drag to courts Yemane Gebreab too. Why not? They put in jail, incommunicado without trial so many people for so long it is time they test their own medicine.

      • ‘Gheteb

        Hi Haile Zeru,

        You said, ” With the likes of Kubrom, Miriam Van Reisen, and hopefully Elsa Chirum joining they should put in motion a legal proceeding to bun YPFDJ from all EU cities”.

        To BURN, as in committing an ARSON? I think your MensaE JIGNA hero, the Mafioso THUG Master, Wedi- Dafla, can utilize your arsonist tendencies. No wonder you have as a hero a ring leader of thugs in “the Daffla Mob”.

        • iSem

          Gheteb:
          Now you are attacking region and tribe, you called Andebrhan a regionalist from Seraye and now Kibrum from racisit from Mensae, you said, Seraye like Emma are regionalsit and Mensae like Haile Zare racists
          How about you where are you from? I know you were born and raised in keren but any drifter, any homeless with no belonging can claim a city, adi zeyblu keren/mendefera/asmera adey ybl goes the saying
          And about mob master, there is an accomplished and seasoned mob leader and that is your leader Isaias Afwerki of Temben, and my guess is that you are from Temben and that is why u are following his orders, according to ur logic

          • Haile Zeru

            Hi all,
            Gheteb, Mr. no body.. You have run out of the little substance you had. The misspelled word is burning you because you know what it means.
            Eritrea is made of its people from all regions. You are bad mouthing them all because you do not belong anywhere. Your racist nature is here for all to see. We, the Eritrean people adopted you and let you live between us, yet you are showing your ugly nature. What else one would expect from DIA cult member. DIA is a bad tree and you are venom fruit.
            You see, everyone knows DIA history and the way he is behaving. No doubt you are of similar deviant psychological make up.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Mr somebody, Haile Z.,

            Let us be concrete. When and how are going to grab power in Eritrea? Or is it all huffing and puffing hot air?

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Hi Simon,

            You are the supporter of the regime, why are you interested as to how and when the switch of power will happen? The oppressed Eritrean people will determine it. You don’t need to know it. Second, social change can not be predicted as to when will happen. If there are and you are one of them, then you are naive.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Sem,

            When you say “any homeless with no belonging can claim a city” reminds me Hiruy Tedla’s argument. (a) In early 2000 Hiruy was alleged of similar thing by a nick name “warsay” at that time. In response to that Hiruy came with a long family tree, both by his father and mother side, that touches the three provinces (akeleguzay, hamasien, and Seraye) (b) He did not stop there, he authored “the strategy of Adi” a year later. I asked him why do we need the strategy of Adi? And how did he came with that concept. He told me because “adi zeyeblu Asmara Adey sile ziblu”, and since those kind of people consider themselves as pristine Eritrean, I want to tell them if they don’t have “Adi” other than Asmara, then their Eritrean identity is questionable. So Samray, like Hiruy you sound challenging Gheteb to show us his family tree. Otherwise by claiming “I am kerenite” his Eritrean identity is questionable. Eye to eye with Hiruy. Gheteb dug his own grave.

            Regards

          • Semere Tesfai

            Selam Amanuel Hidrat

            “In early 2000 Hiruy was accused of similar thing (not being pure Eritrean) by a nick name “warsay”. In response to him, Hiruy came with a long family tree, both by his father and mother side, that touches the three provinces (akeleguzay, hamasien, and Seraye) and posted it at Asmarino com. Hiruy did not stop there, he authored “the strategy of Adi” a year later. I asked him why: he said ‘it is because “adi zeyeblom Asmara Adey sile ziblu”. And since those kind of people consider themselves as pristine Eritrean, he said, I want to tell them if they don’t have “Adi” other than Asmara, then their Eritrean identity is questionable. So Samray (iSem), like Hiruy you sound challenging Gheteb to show us his FAMILY TREE. Otherwise claiming “I am kerenite” is not enough and his Eritrean identity will be questionable.”

            Amanuel: everyday you’re sinking into a new low. And that is unlike you. That is unlike the Tegadalay you use to be. You know and I know that kind of thinking and attitude is not what got us to the finish line. I’m shocked you forgot it so soon.

            I know when you said all the things you said, all you had in mind was Gheteb. But Gheteb is nothing but a nameless faceless abstract cyber pen-name. Your message of “their Eritrean identity is questionable”, your message of “bottom-up” political orientation”… is directed to nobody but to the whole Eritrean population young and old that don’t qualify your “pure” Eritrean race.

            And correct me if I’m wrong, but I suppose your ጩግራፍን: ሓለንጊ-ዘለፋን was not intended to the ሓናፍጽ with lighter skin (half-Italians and half-Yemenis). I believe it was intended to those poor folks who were born, at no choice of theirs, in Eritrean cities and towns with Tigrean or Amara ethnic descent. And all this tone of ethnic prejudice with a ካባ Tegadalay (warrior) for democracy, justice, equality…. for ALL. Isn’t that ironic? Indeed!

            Anyway, let me leave you with this thought. In Seraye almost every family in the communities of Gundet, Qohayn, including Dembelass and Areza have Tigrean blood in them. In Akeleguzai almost every family in the communities from Hazemo to SenAfe to Shimejana have some Tigrean blood in them. The history of Hamassien people from Karneshim, Dimbezan, Kebabi Asmera…. is obvious to all. The Sahos and Afars from Adi-qeyh, SenAfe, Simejana all the way to Bure and the border of Djibouti, are blood relative of their kin in Ethiopia. And the same is true with the Eritrean Kunamas in the Mereb (Gash) Settit region.

            The point: Pure Eritreanism exits only in the heads of small minded people.

            Semere Tesfai

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Hi SemereT.,

            You see brother, I just told you a history that happened sometime ago none by others but by by some coward Eritreans behind pen names. Not that I support what have been said to Hiruy or others in questioning their Eritrean Identity, but Gheteb whom you support him in every political argument he made, did question my identity, and in the same breath have questioned him his identity to bring up his family tree like what Hiruy did to answer the allegation against him. But…but when Gheteb went through this dirty game, you didn’t utter a single word against him. To tell you frankly, regarding the highlanders, who hasn’t a blood link with the people of Tigray? You will find all the founders of the Eritrean villages of the highland came from Tigray (refer to the book “the origin of the people from mereb melash).

          • Semere Tesfai

            Selam Amanuel Hidrat

            Thank you Aman.

            But please understand, we all here at Awate are independent thinkers with unique personal opinion. All the Salehs don’t have identical opinion. All the Semeres don’t have identical opinion…… And I don’t agree with most what Geteb has to say.

            Geteb has his own opinion and I’ve my own. You’ve your own individual opinion and others has their own. It is neither right nor fair to lump people’s opinion as one & the same.

            But thank you for clarifying your position. Now I can sleep better.

            Semere Tesfai

          • tes

            Selam Semere T.,

            You must be a disgusting person and expected to write like this. Everyone knows what you promote for. You are not shy to say that the emajority have a legitimacy to tule the minority.

            Amanuel: everyday you’re sinking into a new low. And that is unlike you. That is unlike the Tegadalay you use to be. You know and I know that kind of thinking and attitude is not what got us to the finish line. I’m shocked you forgot it so soon.

            .

            You have lost your morality. Please continue to serve the dictator.

            tes

          • Abi

            Hi Tes
            You messed up BIG TIME!!!
            It is Semere Andom who famously said the majority have legitimacy to rule the minority. Actually, he said it is to the minority’s advantage to be ruled by the majority.
            Semere T is such a descent man to go that low.
            You have to apologize to Semere T.

          • iSem

            Abi:

            I Never said that Never. Because I hate majority government

          • iSem

            Hi Semere T
            You maybe correct on the blood DNA that you seem to know. There is a reason u get naturalized in the west if you were not born in the country. And in the Kebessa, in the villages everyone is know, no one hides and masquarading as having deep roots in the village, but they live with respect and proud of their identity and origin
            Now Gheteb maybe faceless nameless pen-name to some but to some of us he is a real person, with a name, he thinks he is hiding, but he is not. Yes, I was born and raised in Keren is not enough. A rapist and a murdered soldier from the HS era who was stationed in Keren could have fathered Gheteb, for all we know because he talks like wedi sebeyti

          • Semere Tesfai

            Selam iSem

            “I was born and raised in Keren is not enough”

            Semere, Tell me: If being born and raised in a place – village, town, city, country – irrespective length of time (generations), didn’t make one qualify for citizenship, then what will? Today, thanks to science and technology, advanced communication, economic inegration, and modern transportation…. interracial marriages and movement of people is a fact of life.

            And when we argue about rights of citizenship, please erase every sense of perception you have about Isaias and Geteb from your mind. Because the question of citizenship-right is bigger than these two individuals.

            Mokhsi: being insensitive about race, ethnicity, faith, family, manhood…… is not a winning argument. We all are residing far from home – today probably it is the person you’re questioning his Eritrean citizenship, tomorrow……….. who knows……… it could be my and your grandson.

            Semere Tesfai

          • iSem

            Semere:
            I agree with u some what, espcially the last two parag and ur tone too
            But one thing that u are avoiding is that citizenship is also legal, in some european countries like Noway for example, now matter if ur parents lived in for a decades if they are not citizens ur birht does not entitle u for Norwegian citizenship In canada and USA it does, u are forgetting that
            Even by ur own definition of valor,honesty etc, Gheteb does not qualify because he is the very anthi-thesis of Eritrean. What he is doing is not a matter of opinion, life is not always grey, ther are black and whit things too and the current sad situation that Gheteb advertises and is part of is that black and white
            I pride myself of being multi-cultural, I was not born like that but when I was exposed to it it I loved it, some of my friends were in the same boat but they never embraced it like me. Just some rare shameless self plugging:-)
            About IA, he has never admitted his Tigray blood even when asked,MZ did, Yemane Jamaica did, do u think that is an issue or not, denying ur idenitity should be more worrying than the rejection by otheres

          • Semere Tesfai

            Selam iSem

            1. – “one thing that u are avoiding is that citizenship is also legal”

            It is true. But legal doesn’t always mean right (acceptable by fair minded people). Mokhsi: I don’t mind being asked, but just for once, let me ask you a very contentious and controversial question – just to make a point. Please answer it if will. And this is my question:

            In the Arab World alone, there are over five million Palestinian refugees – most 3-4 generation refugees (since 1948). The Arab countries have denied them right for citizenship even to those who’ve resided in their counties for three and four generations (sixty nine years). I understand it is the law of their land, but is it right? In Eritrea, should we emulate that policy towards our folks with Tigrean or Amara ethnic descent (pure or mixed)?

            2. – “Even by ur own definition of valor,honesty etc, Gheteb does not qualify because he is the very anthi-thesis of Eritrean.”

            Semere: Forget Geteb, the issue of citizenship is bigger than Geteb or any individual person. But having said that, like I told you before, even for Geteb, we can’t takeaway from him his right of citizenship. We can only takeaway his privileges – ‘deny him the pursuit of happiness’ and put him at Era-Ero. How about that? 🙂

            3. – ” About IA, he has never admitted his Tigray blood even when asked,MZ did, Yemane Jamaica did, do u think that is an issue or not, denying ur idenitity should be more worrying than the rejection by otheres”

            I don’t blame Isaias Afewerki for that. Speaking about hundreds of thousands of Eritreans through him (Isaias), I blame our society. I blame our culture of intolerance. I blame our culture of shaming people to the core – sometimes for trivial things and sometimes at no fault of these poor folks.

            Semere: When did you hear an Eritrean ብርነት ዘለዎ ኣብ ትውልዱ speaking about his ብርነት candidly in public? When did you hear an Eritrean young women ጥራሓ ዝጸነሐት on her wedding day and returned back to her parents the next day on a donkey back, speaking about here shameful ordeal in public? When did you hear an Eritrean ወዲ/ጓል ጸሟቊት ስዋ speaking about his/her upbringing candidly in public? When did you hear an Eritrean who was born out of wedlock saying candidly I’m ድቓላ?…….

            The merciless cultural and psychological assault from Eritrean society was so damaging, those with Tigrean or Amara ethnic descent were/are doing everything they can to hide their ethnic descent to fit with the people around them. That is the sad fact. Now, why would Isaias be the exception and blamed for not doing something, nobody is willing to do?

            Semere: If you answer the Palestinian question I asked you candidly and convincingly, as a treat I’ll tell you ሕካያ about an Eritrean interracial wedding. Word.

            Semere Tesfai

          • saay7

            Hi Semere T:

            Oh wow, you are on fire 🔥 here: you are right on every count and the examples you gave were all spot on. ISem arguments have been reduced to one, untenable at that: “oh yeah? Well they started it!”

            As your reward, two unrelated stories:

            1. An Italian is introducing one my family members who has an Italian citizen to a mutual Italian friend. This is how he introduces him “__________ carries an Italian passport.” It’s inconceivable in the mind of the Italian that a black person can be Italian, so he said he carries an Italian passport.

            2. An old man is trying to teach a “pure Eritrean” who was quick to resort to “Agame!” name-calling. He asks him a series of questions, cross examination style, about his village…long questions with follow up making the kid uncomfortable. His friends intervene and plead that he stop and the old man says “gena gena dob kesgro iye!” (Haven’t started yet: I will move him across the border!)

            I always wonder if the same trace-your-ancestors phenomenon exists in Tigray, Shoa and I wonder if some of them are told you aren’t from Eritrea. It’s all silly in a place known for famine and wars: two key drivers of multiple migration. Specially when those who were planted in one location for 20 generations have nothing to show (in terms of civilization) compared to the “recent” migrants.

            saay

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selam Saay,

            I am holding this spot to write what I almost said about Semere T a few days ago and why I didn’t. My sympathy to iSem too. I kind of understand how he drifted into this unwinnable position. Stay tuned.

          • iSem

            Hi Semere:

            1. No, they should not be denied, absolutely. If you and I can get citizenship of USA and Canada in 5 and 3 years respectively, 70 years should more than suffice. But as we speak, they are not, unfair and inhumane as it is.

            2. Well, I like the denying of pursuit of happiness. Ela-Ero, I do not even wish it for Gheteb. I rather put him in Karshelli or in a new prison near Shefshefi so his friends from Keren can visit him;-)

            3. You are right about the culture, but where is the courage of IA not to embrace his blood, dodging it always, but the next door guy, MZ living in the same society like ours can embrace it, aboy Sebhat can embrace it. This is telling of IA.

            About ብርነት ዘለዎ ኣብ ትውልዱ and virginity and all the shebang in our culture is something that needs to be changed, but not being proud of ur blood is cowardly, unEritrean;-)

            And one of the jobs of Ghedli was to change all the things that was broken in our society, it did not do it. All these things are still there. There are people alive who were given as a gift as slaves to a bride ብርነት ዘለዎ ኣብ ትውልዱ

            , their kids who fought to liberate Eri are still alive. Women still deal with the shame of ጥራሓ ዝጸነሐት, but it is not overt, people find creative ways to do practice such things in the new era , 85% of Eritrean girls now still go though FGM and many more stone-age practicies

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Semere Tesfay,

            You know and I know that we are always at odd and opposit of our political spectrums. On this comment of yours, I agree on each argument you made. And thus I up voted you.

            Regards

          • Selam Semere T.,

            Please allow me to say this without entering into your broad discussion on citizenship in eritrea.
            The issue of palestinian refugees is slightly different. The demand for a palestinian state is tied to the existence of a palestinian people, or a stateless people with a palestinian identity, that has been forced out of its ancestral land and lives as refugees for decades. If the 5m or so palestinians obtain citizenship and call themselves saudis, jordanians, lebanese, etc, citizens of palestinian descent, the demand for a palestinian homeland, may lose the political and moral weight it has in the eyes of the world community. It could be possible that there is some sort of agreement between palestinian authorities and the different arab governments, that palestinians should not acquire citizenship of different arab countries, for the above mentioned reason.
            Many countries that have cross border minorities in neighboring countries do not give citizenship to their own people, so that they do not lose their citizenship in the other country, because some countries do not allow double citizenship, or people might be tempted to sell their properties and move to live with their own people, and thus lose all the connections with the land where they lived as minorities, may be for centuries. Therefore, there is a political reason that people who have the right to citizenship are not given that right, while at the same time foreigners could be eligible for citizenship.

          • Thomas

            Hi Semere T,

            Yes, your definition for qualifications/requirements for citizenship and that we need to be accepting to
            – All citizens born and lived there tens of years. That we live in 21st century where migrating people get their citizenship else (in most cases). As such, we cannot deny people of their privileges but not their citizenship. Who do you think would miss this?
            – One thing I learned from your comments here is that you are good at diversions. You bring topics which that are irrelevant and divert the discussion about what is happening in Eritrea and the tragedy our going through.
            – I have never read you blaming the mafia regime as much as you like to talk about tplf and your day in day out attack on the Eritrean opposition.
            – You said, “I don’t blame Isaias Afewerki for that, I blame you and I. Speaking
            about the ordeal of hundreds of thousands of “non-pristine” Eritreans
            through him (Isaias), I blame our society. I blame our culture of
            intolerance. I blame our culture of shaming people to the core –
            sometimes for trivial things and sometimes at no fault of these poor
            folks.” My question is when did you ever blame Issayas then? Can you please stop being a coward and backward state the thinks that you don’t agree with mafia regime?
            – I surely think all your above bluff is to cover Gheteb and DIA, prove me wrong and tell me what you think about these two? When almost all Eritreans are worried about what is happening to us, Eritreans, how come you not to bother to address/care this/for?
            – Let me tell you who I think you are, you are a regionalist, anti Islam and have too much hate for the Eritrean people/Gebar and are one of those “Zinegese Nugusna”. You adore dictators/oppressors and like to let down the oppressed.

          • Haile Zeru

            Hi Semere Andom,

            I agree with what you are saying.”Yes, I was born and raised in Keren is not enough…”
            the origin and genealogy of a person is not at issue here. Have you heard people saying Keren TsaEda?
            It is not because Keren is white, It is because of the friendly culture that was flourishing in Keren.
            It is the culture of respect that different languages and religions coexist in peace. Do you see that character in Gheteb? NO. therefore it is not about citizenship or blood lines. Those like Semere Tesfay that are dragging those things are twisting facts to suit their argument.

            Gheteb is a stain in the character of Kerenites. No true Kerenite would slander the Seraye, the Akele, or MensaE etc…

          • iSem

            Hi HZ:
            You see, PFDJ made it illegal to talk about your village and blood, there is nothing wrong saying I am Texan, but you could go to prison in EPLF if you talk about your village or even province, it is just Eritrean, this is none-sense because Eri is made up of these provinces. But we know that behind the scenes they play the division and they could not say where they hail from, talk about idenity crisis. What Semere T and Sal said about our culture is true, but the race thing is little exaggerated, because everyone originates from somewhere, no one really spring from the ground like worms, and they lived happily, I never heard people killed each other because of their origin until 1998, when both sides played the ugly things
            I have never been to Keren until 2001, but I knew a lot about it, from stories, almost all my friends except 2 were from Keren. I knew people I never met by names and stories, I knew about the “vast” lake of Shefshefi and I knew how the weather is cool, Keren bruud shemmalla, it was little hot for me, though;-)
            So yes, I know about Keren TsaEda and the multicultural and tolerance is evident, Keren is a glue between the Kebessa and Metahit. But then it begets people like Gheteb, maetsen adde gurra-gurra.
            If we want to change the citizenship laws, fine, but one cannot claim my addi is Tirra-Vello, there is ethnicity and there is citizenship and everyone should be proud of it, and I wonder how a person who was born in Tirgray and lived in Eritrea for a few years and then worked for EPLF in USA and then became a minster or PFDJ finance big shot has an Eritrean citizenship, what laws, what residence or other requirements that parliament passed entitles him, if spying for PFDJ and ratting on Eritreans has not become a requirment . In the USA and Canada, you cannot be naturalized if you have committed crimes, if you are not born there, your crimes will bar your from the citizenship, and in some countries even if birth does not entitle you unless one of ur parent is not a citizen, these are laws, in Eri no laws, anyone becomes citizens if you worships the dictator and some of our friends do not see a problem with that. A Boudewi who has no fixed residence and who harvest organs and traffics Eritreans is allowed to become an Eri citizens, that is how cheap PFDJ made Eri citizenship. And Sal, no my argument is not REDUCED to they have started it

          • Haile Zeru

            Hi Semere Andom,

            I like to add one more observation to your superb detail. Do you see how much Gheteb writes about the Eritrean victories? Who made those heroic deeds? DIA by himself? The people that were fighting dying and killing are those exact people that Gheteb is slandering. Do you see the irony? Do you see how smart he is trying to sound. Yet it did not cross his smart (??) mind that the Eritrean victories and debacles are build on the bones of the exact people Gheteb likes to ridicule.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Semere,

            What is your contribution to Eritrea, other than running away during Ghedli?

          • iSem

            Merhaba Simon K:
            I am a gentleman so, PFDJ supporters first, what is your contribution sir>
            Let me say with due respect, this is dumb question and an old one used by the criminals in Eri now
            The topic is citizenship and not about contribution, what my contribution got to do with my citizenship and where I come from

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Semere A.,

            As to my contribution, ask Andeberhan [who I still respect] he will tell you.

            And your contribution? Doing a runner and being a motor mouth in North America. If you believe you are a citizen, be a man, go and liberate Eritrea!

          • iSem

            Hi Simon:
            Thanks, I will ask him the next time he comes to Toronto
            As for my contribution ask Mohyedin Shengeb, he will tell you

        • Simon Kaleab

          Selam Gheteb,

          I think he meant to say “ban”. He may have heard “ban” as “bun”. Could tinnitus be to blame?

        • Haile Zeru

          Hi all,
          Gheteb, Mr. no body.. You have run out of the little substance you had. The misspelled word is burning you because you know what it means.
          Eritrea is made of its people from all regions. You are bad mouthing them all because you do not belong anywhere. Your racist nature is here for all to see. We, the Eritrean people adopted you and let you live between us, yet you are showing your ugly nature. What else one would expect from DIA cult member. DIA is a bad tree and you are venom fruit.
          You see, everyone knows DIA history and the way he is behaving. No doubt you are of similar deviant psychological make up.

      • Abraham H.

        Selam Haile Zeru, I would like to go even further by declaring the PFDJ mafia regime and its affiliated organizations like the yPFDJ as TERRORIST organizations and ban them from all foras in the free democratic world. Becasue what these organizations are doing to the Eritrean people in terms of tramping down on the basic human rights, it falls nothing short of what other terror organizations do to the people under their rule. When the UN passed its sanctions on the PFDJ regime back in 2009, I think they were meant to be enforced; otherwise there is no need to pass those sanctions. Hence, the UN has to enforce its sanctions fully, and decisively by enforcing the travel ban on the PFDJ officials such as the Monkey, Kisha, Charlie, etc , as well as total assets freeze of the corrupt officials beginning from their capo Isayas wedi medhin berad.

        • Haile Zeru

          Hi Abraham H.
          I agree with you. The only thing that I want to add is that, our contribution is very low, we Eritreans have to push and apply pressure so that the UN sanctions are implemented. That is why I am applauding the people in Holland. They are doing their part. I hope everywhere else same thing will follow.

    • Selamat Stefanos Temelso,

      RUBBISH comment repeated time and again for over a Quater of a Century if not close to over half of a century. An untruth to create enmities and divisions amongst the Eritrean Youth of Today so as to break the SPIRIT of The Unity who in spite of the power positioning causes of numerous self inflicted causes, the majority stayed steadfast to the covenants and agreements that forged the United uprising to determine their Nations and Peoples destiny. Eritrea’s greatest genetation for the most part remained UNITED TO UPROOT near and far foreign wishes imposed on them.
      And Eritreas Youth of Today will come together and overcome these divisive narratives and be the sole drivers of their own future ad they guard and preserve THEIR PREDECESORS HISTORY and hold their heads up with equal dignity they have inherited. With mutual respect internally and with the people’s beyond the international boundary lines, they will decide to trade goods, services and even swaths of land and or ports as they assess for them selves the TRUE Value of FAIR TRADES AND EXCHANGES.

      Anything gained at the cost of their dignity by warring against one another in pursuit of the interests of the narrow individual definitions of the FALSE NARATIVES such as. Ethnic Federalism will define them as the generation which abdicated Eritrean’s Dignity by their incapabilty to weigh TRUTH OVER FALSITY.

      The war against PFDJ is a smokescreen that hides the. TRUE WAR AGAINST ETITREA’S CURRENT AND FUTURE GENERATION. Rest Assured the wisdoms of their predecessors will surely nudge them to reject I’m unison these conditioning narratives AS THE Eritrean Youth will
      MAKE A STAND ON SEVENTEEN. The self correcting checks and balances of Eritreas Abu Ashera Weapon X is well in its place as IT WILL BE PROVEN SHORTLY TO ALL THE WELL WISHERS AND MALINTENT with in and outside THE TRAIL BLAIZERS’S ARCHITECTS OF THE FOUNDATIONS. There are more full of wisdom leaders among Ghedli Era Trail Blazers than the revisionist and constant choir of lamentations who only magnify the dark spots and hide their malintent total block out of Eritrea And The it’s we’ll deserved earned Dignity.

      Feel free to repeat the same song as it will have no effect on the Abu Ashera Weapon X counter offensive now imminent to hand the BATON or Shig Harinet to the rightful owners which is Eritrea’s Younng within and I’m the diaspora.

      I suggest you either change your narrative or start digging your trench fortifications to at least put up a good defensive fight on the indiscriminate and all consuming forces of wind gathering to blow and sift every Pillar Less weak foundation far away and perhaps to oblivion for ever.
      In the mean time you can choose to remain “As you were!!!”

      We STAND ON SEVENTEEN! We STAND on 25!

      And the truth if forthcoming. NOT HYPE. Full of CONTENT. Trust.

      tSAtSE

      • iSem

        Hi Tsatse:
        I am not sure who gave you the nick name or why they gave it to you, whoever did, he/she was up to something prophetic: that you stature is like “tsatse”
        What Stepahnos said was that it is hypcritical for PFDJ /YPFD to moan about free speech while they have disappeared people when they tried to speak freely and that triggered your ant mind to say all these none-sense.
        The war on PFDJ maybe smoke screen, but it is blinding smoke and one day it will engulf your PFDJ and your uexamined life will still be led by tsatse

        • Thomas

          Hi iSem,

          Tsatse is just craving for attention. I mostly ignore his comments but I have noticed when he is normal you can see he is the supporter of the mafias. Though he is a coward and is so careful exposing himself. Watch for his comments for whenever the mafia regime loses, he will be seen writing comments such as his above comment.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Thomas,

            I think IA is his baliga, his God Father, that’s why anything positive that comes to damage him and his regime, he goes berserk.

            Now you will see he will turn into hatew qetew and he will plaster AT forum all day and all night so no meaning discussion will be posted.

            The same thing this Gheteb character is doing…..

            Hrrr dea belu enda hgdf.

            Berhe

          • iSem

            Hi BY:
            Can you find something else instead of “baliga”, because the purpose of baliga is to be a spitiual mentor for the kid and guidance in the event the parents die, now IA cannot do that, for sure he will be a mentor for satanic sprit, but not the the true “baliga” that we know and practise

        • Selamat iSEM,

          RUBBISH COMMENT. You have no clue about the Enigma. As You were. This is the TIP of The Ice Burg.

          tSAtSE

          • iSem

            Hi Tsatse:
            I agree, I have no clue about the bottomless pit you will be descending into, absolutely, no idea, there are trained professionals that have that clue, though

        • Selamat iSEM,

          As if your access and MOD privileges and deleting comments is going to deter the plan and actions in motion. It is fortunate that your individual actions will have any consequental effect on my attitude and the win win end goal.

          REAL value of Abu Ashera Weapon X will be evaluated and either supported or rejected by the wisdom of the recognized guardians and leadership of Our Just Eritrean Opposition Cause. They are The Ghedli Era Trail Blazers.

          I suggest you go assist Ms. Hyatt Adem her second 12.7% An Appeal to tSAtSE. A rather briiant mind she is, and I am very confident in winning her over with sound arguments.

          You can attempt to paint me as the enemy of the Just Cause of the Eritrean Opposition. I am NOT! I championed the cause of the Eritrean JUSTICE Long before my Captain Saay7 declared the Dawn of a New day right of the Roosters of Algeria Cacadoodled And PMNZ and PIA signed the peace treaty.

          My opposition along with fellow classmates Red Flowers and Kojhob tSibaH gave us the lecture to not give ears to the nonsensical directives of our respective organizations. He instilled in us the Unity and oneness as Eritreas Children while pointing the beauty and strength of our diversity. Etched in each of our minds and hearts those lessons by the nameless young Eritrean conscience objector.At HaduQa Kartum Teleta. Immediately the
          failed joint opperation of Barentu I and the failed talks of ELF EPLF smrett or Unity Talks. Most likely his motivation to plant the seeds on of The hopes of unity in the next or young generation.

          I will simply pass on that fortunate lesson that has freed me from all the corrupt ills afflicting the iSEM
          s The Stealthy divisiv evil creators of the Agazians Tigray Tigrigni. Woe on to you when I present the paper and electronic foot print. Be happy with your payout and ample funding you chichinged.

          With my Abu Ashera Weapon X I assure you I am STAND in Solidarity with Haraka, ELF, EPLF and All of Eritrean Youth and Certainly a reawakened GitSAtSE champion of the Just Opposition Cause.

          My friend Gheteb with same convictions is sounding a lot like nicer and a harmless putty cat now. Ha?

          I don’t value your question nor have respect to narrate my baptisim of tSAtSE in spite if my love to tell stories. Change your narrative and I might consider it.

          Thomas and Berhe Y. sorry no time to waste time and engage in meaningless war of words. An entire battalion of your army could not goud me into your infintile designs. .
          Have you considered or wondered why no one from those we thee highly respect their opinions and WISE leadership is yet to raise an objecrion?

          Your Lesson #1. They are confident in the Self Correcting Mechanisms they have put in place as Ghedli Trail Blazers and are confident in the inevitable victory if the our just Eritrean Cause the have worked tirelessly their entire lives. They need not give knee jerk reactionary and rush in to unjust and unproductive war orcattack mode. They recognize the pupils that paid focus attention of all the lessons at the Revolutionary Schools they constructed. Precisely why this phase of and preliminary NOT Hype methodical approach I am utilizing. You two Quntal BeluEkum temekesu. iSEM school of political indoctrination has not prepared you amply to match against the tSAtSE. The nonchalant attitude and commentary of polite banter at your level was by design. I have announce biblically of my challenge to my Sense Master Saay7 with my declaration i of wAR.
          Fegret Halet ShaEbia igil A wet igil mot.

          CHANGE YOUR FALSE NARATIVE OR GO CLIMB A WALL. What difference does it make what strategy accelerates to The victory over INJUSTICE? You are grown men that should not be hypocrites and contradict the MAIN oppisition pillars. I will let you figure OUT which.

          Pardon me if I do not respond to your future unworthy of my time and effort to respond.

          tSAtSE

      • Stefanos Temelso

        Hithe nameless and faceless brother, who has no confidence to be known by his real name. Brother, instead of lamenting about the division being created among the Eritrean youth by Eritrea’s enemies why don’t you address the real cause of the problem in Eritrea. The number one enemy of Eritrea is Isayas himself. You people lament about Yemane Monkeys rights in a foreign land, but Isayas has denied his people or rather the Eritrean people the very right they have struggled for thirty bloody years to achieve. We say in Tugrigna “Ni goyta ferihom nigila”. Why are you afraid to criticize the brutal regime. This evil Regime that represents no one except a handful of people has denied the Eritrean people Electricity, water, basic commodities, free movement, a representative parliament, free speech and most of all justice. people are grabbed from their houses and the street and are no more heard of. I am sure you know about this. But maybe you have no relative that is incarcerated in such manner and you are hiding the crimes of the evil regime. S[, come to your senses brother. If the evil dictator ie removed the Eritrean people will as usual preserve their sovereignty and dignity. But Isayas the criminal, the drunk, the hooligan, the Mafia boss is endangaring the sovereugnty of the nation by creating enemies every now and then. Forget Ethiopia or Woyane or CIA bla bla. Think of the Eritrean people and their future. If you are thinking that Eritrea will be safe if Isayas is in power, you are on the wrong direction and you will understand that this is a piped-dream when you come to your sense.

      • Abraham H.

        Hi Tsatse, why don’t you be like your master Gheteb and say what you want to say straight instead of inundating this forum with your ‘tweyway’ nonesense blubbers? Man, if you are really afraid to express your ideas and support your evil PFDJ, (or is that Shaebiya?), in a virtual online chat, then how would you be in the REAL world? I guess you would be covered with ‘tsihtsah’.

        • Selamat Abraham H,

          Manjusay incase you missed it tSAtSE’s DefaE is named UNBOUND. I do not adhere to directives from any one I a not bound to obey. My war my strategy. Why don’t you adapt to My strategy of content or your own with a changed from the same old false Narrative?

          Get used to a slow and methidical challenge. I gave no delusions of winning heart in one day or weak. If you only knew the decay a d arrested development that has to be corrected. Seburr Wide say The Tigrayit Speakers.

          Abu Ashera Weapon X of Eeerit Evolution.
          tSAtSE

          • Abraham H.

            Hi Tsatse, your ‘manjus’ condescending description aside, you don’t need to make the issue complex. It is very simple: if you believe in rule of law and justice, and do your part to achieve those goals in Eritrea, then you’ve done what is required of you as good Eritrean. Otherwise hiding behind obscure claims of ‘the same old false Narrative’ to justify your support for the killer PFDJ is a lame excuse.

        • Selamat AAgAzian Abraham H

          By whose Authority “Manjusay” are you prying. I have SEEN one of your soldiers jump upon seeing me. And HE CREPT the Second Time. Perhaps Ab. Radio Rufta … Nay were maRKets Radio Alem Kulen.

          Oh, yeah I practiced law for SEVEN YEARS.

          And there is s correlation here. Lets do A Deck of Cards.
          And SO we have 52 to be named And A 12 Person Committee. Yeah yeah. I believe that Eight BITS. by Eight BITS. Or A BYTE by BYTE. 64. Hmmm

          Just so that you know. “Manjusay” How does it feel to be A Domestic Terrorist. This us The USA!

          Open complaint to National Security, My Congress Woman Barbara Lee.

          And I know your CELL. That Sir is called THE ZARA Bait.

          And Know “Manjusay” Abraham Hanibal. I DO NOT SUPPIRT THE PFDJ! I STAND On 17! I Oppose THE PFDJ GoV’t As Well As The Agazian Group with It’s Cell in Oakland California AND IT IS A DONESTIC TERRIRISR ORGANIZATION.

          Mr. Abreham H. Tour organization The Agazianss I OPPOSE as I DO The PFDJ Government. I Am.A United States Citizen and In The City of Oakland. I bieve Radio Rufta is Out of Searle.
          Matters NOT!
          Is THAT Simple enough for YOU.

          Oh…If you don’t mind..
          I LOVE TO SING
          “Fegret Halet ShaEbia Igl A wet Ihl MOT.”
          Well Gheteb as you can SEE I am not just after The PFDJ, I am also at War with THE Agazian and their domestic terrorism.

          And though on THE One Hand I am hunting several PFDJ Domestic Terrorists and I have UN traveled their cell, There is a second group that formed And I am Taging Those Criminal THUGS As Well. Ita a Shame Manjusay Abraham H. has just commited a grave mistake. Wait, you just identified Abraham H. as Medrekh.
          I do not care what political and religious these A
          CRIMINAL belong too.

          Apparantly you did not get my memmo of my Declaration of wAR Mr. Abraham H. ?
          UBBOUND1.

          MAKE A STAND ON 17!
          tSAtSE

  • Selamat awate forum,

    The heads up by Saay7 serves the purpose to alleviate some REAL fears and or self doubt/guilt by many in the opposition who support their strategy in place.

    The intricacies and my point can not be served in comment format. Although my friend Gheteb has presented some pertinent and the fundamental arguments in in the duo of the duo Cuz’s debates, Gheteb, like numerous others, is constrained by his allowance of several parameters as bound to organizational perhaps or self. In addition to those constraints of course, the partisan attitudes of winner takes all – Zero Sum Gamesmanship, which has proven to be the TOP HINDERANCE parameter registering the greatest in magnitude of Ohms by the Ampmeter of the CURRENTS OF THE PAST 25 YEARS.
    (The model the reader should picture here is A Power Source/Voltage Generator V, Current i. And RESISTANCE R.)

    Bell Hall Bits and Bytes will be for later…TRANSISTORS AND Diods. I am merely addressing my friend Gheteb (Yes, Tikh Tnfaseu AArkey as we the Tigrigna Speakers say) by taking a stroll with him through Amherst’s Knox Hall, Bell Hall, Elicot Complex, Capen Hall, (which the University President Sample(?) Office was located with the SECRET MAZE that lead to the entrance/exits was not shared with the Student Body due The Anti War – The Vietnam War- spearheaded by The American Students….****)

    There is one significant, for our discussions of SPICE Simulations of Circuitry –by manipulating BITS AND BYTES, by opening and shutting GATES, that I will extend my stroll with Gheteb as I WELCOME HIM WITH A FULL HEART– It is HOME COMING. We shall rest at Baldy Hall, which housed both the Law School, The Philosophy Department, The Law Library AND a small room that was frequented the most by the University Students. The Printout of OUTPUTS- Unix/Vax. “En Libro Su Liberta” reads the caption on an Oakland Library Wall Mural, 7Th Avenue and International Boulavard and with larger than life Native Americans paintings of the ever present wisdom AND SPIRIT of America-The United States. ….
    This is Home COMING and we shall now end our orientation here and utilize the over path to cross over to the Student

  • MS

    Selma GhezaeHagos
    A brilliant piece. I actually found out it was a satire way before reaching the portion that alerted the great SAAY. I found it in the first paragraph. I. Read that paragraph three times feeling that there was something wrong with it. The red flags were:
    1. The SR was established to enquire about the abuses of Eritrean government over its citizens; it was not a “Human Right Watch” type. So, I reasoned what the heck is Ms. Shiela doing in a Ducth city’s affair.
    2. I felt it was odd for the government of PFDJ to recognize the existence of the SR let alone its legitimacy for an exchange of a local complaint. I thought there was something fishy about it and ran down to the bottom. There I confirmed my suspicion.
    Final head count: every awaitsta is accounted for except one MIA: Emma.
    SAAY=0
    MS=1

    • saay7

      Hey MS:

      I lost, but you didn’t win:) Not yet. There is some dyslexic or clever guy (disappointed it is not Abi; it will most likely be TsaTse) who will tell us he knew what it was based on the clue right in the title of the article. Hint on dyslexia.

      saay

      • Fanti Ghana

        Selam Saay,

        What a shame! Right “in front” of us, and I only saw it after you gave us a clue.

        • ghezaehagos

          Hi Fanti:-

          That is truly creative. At first I thought it was erisat..some made up Eri media.

          G

      • Abi

        Hi Saay
        I thought Eritas was a newspaper or some kind of magazine. That is the first thing I noticed.

      • Selamat Saay7,

        My long response is cut off. I just want to add the very vital percentage 12.7 % from your last calculus.
        I am a NY Mets Fan and Deweught Gooden is my favorite pitcher.
        Captain Saay7- Strike 2!

        Abu AAshera Weapon X

        tSAtSE

  • Yohannes Zerai

    Dear Ghezae,

    Your beautiful satire is the icing on the cake which adorns a week that was already crowned with a far-reaching and impressive success to the credit of Eritrean “change seekers” and progressive forces in the Netherlands and beyond. I thank you for it. It is inevitable that the victory you celebrated with your satire will trigger, directly and indirectly, more successes and advances in the weeks and months ahead.

    • ghezaehagos

      Yohannes selam,

      Thanks brother. Much appreciated.

      Ghezae

  • Fanti Ghana

    Hello Ghezae,

    I heard that the European Authorities who committed these gross human rights violations are pleading with the Eritrean authorities for leniency. A close friend and an insider told me that there is a chance the just, fair, and compassionate Eritrean authorities may settle outside court provided the Europeans make a copy of Eritrean constitution and other relevant documents for future reference on how to accommodate and guaranty freedom of speech and assembly.

    I was confused by the lawsuit for a while, because it started out in defense of Eritrean Youth (some with 4 month babies, I might add), but toward the end it was referring to the rights of European Youth instead.

    Luckily, the friend I referred to above, who knows everything, clarified it for me. Since the Eritrean Youth are European citizens, the Eritrean authorities realized halfway into their lawsuit that the Europeans might confuse them for Eritrean citizens because it is a well-known fact that Eritreans don’t need or deserve any freedom of speech or assembly. All those misfits who did are now on the moon and not in Europe.

    Then, all a sudden, the whole zibazinke-meharene-kristos made sense. The Eritrean authorities, by the goodness of their heart, couldn’t sit still while such a barbaric act was being committed against the law abiding and innocent European Youth, hence, the law suit.  

    Awet nHafash who pay their 2%!

    PS:
    You had me for a while Ghezae. I hope I avenged myself at least a fraction.

  • Thomas

    Dear Awatistas,

    The website that has been defending the dictatorial regime and was set up as the hope for the dictator is turning itself as a hopeless for the dictator. The website addressing the victory of the justice seekers is blaming the Netherlands, the EU and as usual the international community excluding the dictatorial regime. It is always everyone else but the dictator and his enablers. The “If it is anyone, it is never us it is them” motto will die with them:)

  • Ismail AA

    Dear Ghezae,
    Pertinent and timely gift to the free citizens in Holland who had broken through the trenches of the regime’s fortress of blackmail and fear mongering. The count down of the regime’s fortunes has been heralded with clarion call that has resonated in every corner. The day at Veldhoven was not the same as the one before it; and the days that shall follow the day at Veldhoven shall not be the same either.
    Thanks for the in put at the right time, Ghezae.
    Regards

    • ghezaehagos

      Thanks dear Ismail.

  • saay7

    Selam Ghezae:

    What is the mark of a good satire? Well, it has to be so deadpan the reader is not sure if it is until several paragraphs into it. I was humming along with “yep, entirely credible” until I got to this part:

    In the formal memo, it is not clear whether Mr. Yemane Gebreab is identified as a private citizen or as a government official. The phrase ‘private citizen of the world’ was deleted twice by visible yellow marker, followed by ‘high level advisor to President in matters of all decisions, especially arrests, disappearances and assassinations’.

    This is because Yemane Gebreab would never identify himself as an advisor to the president, as that implies His Excellency President Isaias Afwerki, who is guided by God, needs mortal advice. In fact, I will bet anyone 100 Nakfas to find me the word “presidential advisor” (‘amakhari president’) written in Tigrinya in any of Eritrea’s state media. Dare ya, double dare ya.

    Well done, buddy.

    saay

    PS: Did you read Yohannes Zerai’s article? He wants you mhuran akal to create a professional association and do high-end stuff.

    • ghezaehagos

      Hi Sal,
      Very smart of you indeed; my bad..
      G.

  • Brhan

    Hello Ghezae,
    A very nice article, humorous but waza mis qumneger. Veldhoven is a wake up call for the YPFJD to be objective.

    • ghezaehagos

      Selam Brhan,
      I am glad you find it amusing.
      Thanks,
      Ghezae

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Good morning Ghezae,

    Welcome back. Good to see you back. Thank you for the informative account as to what the Eritrean regime is trying to do at UN against our fight.

    Regards

    • Abi

      Selam Ato Amanuel
      Really?

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Abi,

        Yes for sure, as sure as 💀 death

        • Abi

          Selam Ato Amanual
          Unfortunately your sister from Addis always called you ወንበዴዎች!
          As expected, you missed the whole satire by Ghezae (ግዛቸው?).

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Abi,

            You could have fun at me now. 😊 Have a fun of my ignorance and naivety on political humors.

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Amanuel
            Hahahahaha
            I’m guffawing at your expense. Hahaha
            Seriously though, how were you able to read the whole article without asking yourself ” what the heck is going on?”
            I read the first couple of paragraphs and went back to read because it doesn’t seem to be written by Ghezae.
            Anyway
            Ras Abi 3
            Amanuel H 0
            I was thinking of you and Saay while reading the article.
            I hope you here from him.

  • michelda

    Hi all

    I have to admit that was good, you almost had me…..kkkkkk

  • Abi

    Hi Ghezae
    I did not know a person can be a lawyer and funny at the same time. Good one!
    “ማሽላ እያረረ ይስቃል”

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