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Despair and Frustration with the Fundraising Efforts

It has been three months since we started this fundraising cycle. We would like to thank the few of you who responded positively, and we hope (still hope) the rest will respond — we do not want to suspend or operations because of lack of basic operating funds.  Yes, unfortunately it has come to that.

Last January, there was a meeting where some friends  decided to launch a fundraising campaign in several locations. Soon after that, another initiative was launched by Friends of Awate in Toronto. So far, the initiatives yielded the following:

  1. The Modesto Initiative yielded $250 (donated by friends in Orange County).
  2. The Toronto Friends of Awate initiative yielded $200,
  3.    The campaign by friends in Australia yielded $220.
    (the total donated by the three above-mentioned groups was $670.00).
  4. Since January 1, 2019, a total of 18 individuals each contributed a high of $300, and low of $20 through the website (Paypal and bank transfer). The total of direct individual contributions is $1760.
  5. Our deficit for 2018 is, ($4500, carried forward to 2019).
  6. Since January 1, 2019, the total collected is $2430 (Year budget $12,000).
  7. To date, our consolidated budget for 2018-2019 is short by ($4070).
  8. Our budget for 2019 is $12,000.
  9. For the period March 1, to Dec 31, 2019, we require ($4070+$10,000) $14,070, to balance our budget.

As evident from the above, awate.com in a precarious situation; if the beneficiaries, and true supporters of Awate do not come to our rescue, we do not know how we can possibly continue our operations.

As a last ditch, starting March, we will assemble a team from our friends and supporters to handle the fundraising tasks. Thereafter, we hope to focus on the other activities for which this website was established.

Finally, on March 16, 2019, there will be a supporters-initiated function in the San Francisco Bay Area, details of the function will be announced very soon.

In conclusion, we appeal to all of you to help by contributing generously to defray the operational cost.

As you aware, for many years we have survived hacking, sabotaging, defamation, and many other vicious attacks by those who wish to silence us. However, this time, the risk of silencing awate.com is not coming from the PFDJ, but from our own inability to secure funds, and the inaction of our supporters and friends. Please also note that we never sought external funds and we wish to be funded only by our own, our supporters, and friends. Are we up to the challenge?
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  • FishMilk

    Hi All. Is this website not being largely used as a proxy war front by the ELF? Add on TPLFites and extremists and why should you be surprised that you are facing funding woes? Change strategy! Drop the conspiracy theories and TPLF no-crticise policy! Suggest meaningful solutions! Don’t live in the 1980s! Realise that you are older than 95% of Eritreans and really start to demonstrate the maturity of your age!

  • Berhe Y

    Dear Awate Foundation,

    I too am guilty for not contributing my share and I hope to do it soon.

    I know AT has done more than needed to accommodate and make the donation as easy as possible but there is still the struggle to keep the momentum going.

    I don’t think there is any valid reason but it’s that our culture lack of long term planning.

    The 10 dollars monthly from 100 to 120 dedicated users is really reasonable target and it can be achieved.

    አብ ርእሲ ልቡኹም፡ here is some additional suggestion.

    1) Here is an example of NGO that I know who operates in the same manner.
    https://www.matthewshousehospice.ca/donate-today

    2) They have one time donation annually, or as a reoccurring monthly donation options. It may be good idea to give people the option, incase that would make a difference.

    3) Once you have the registered users, it may be good idea to send focused appeal and campaign to their email account directly as well as publishing in the website. In other words, please do take advantage of the registered uses and do not feel shy to take money as long as there is an option to “opt out”. That’s how most NGO do it, and I think the people do not mind if the money is taken out automatically as long as they have the option to cancel / opt out as they wish. In other words, use the resources that you have already collected as a given and don’t start all over again fresh.

    4) Please do look into opening a crowded funding option so that to solicited donation from people around the world who ask nothing in return but to see free speech / democracy prosper. These type of donors should be considered and should be seen as allies. https://ca.gofundme.com/ Eritrea having no private / free press, no democracy, no election and is a compelling reason for most people to compel them to act. For example a one time campaign would be something like the shortfall in the budget that you outlined.

    Some of funding ideas from Gofund me that may work, which I think AT is already doing.

    https://www.gofundme.com/c/fundraising-ideas/nonprofits

    But what I would suggest is if the donation can go via Gofund me rather than AT directly (i know there may some fees) but it will create a buzz to the wider world and expand.

    Berhe

  • Haile S.

    Dear Awate people,
    A poem for the fund raising. Lets do it!

    Awate.com ሓውትና
    ሙሉእ መዓልቲ ነዕልላ እንዳ ሜስ ስዋና
    ዕዳ ኣይነብዝሕ ንኽፈላ
    እንታይ ክንሰቲ እድሕሪ ዘየላ
    ነሕጉሳ እስክስ ክትብል ዘሊላ
    ከም ጉዐይ ስውኣ ዝጠዓመላ
    በጃኹም ንከናኸና ብዝተኻእለና
    ብዘይክ’ኣ እንታይ ክንከውን ኢና?
    ንግሉጻት፡ ንሕቡኣት፡ ሓንቲ ንኹላትና

    ጋዜጣ ዝስሙ ከምትፈልጥዎ የለ ኣብ ሃገርና
    እታ እንኮ ሓዳስ ኤርትራ ከይዓበየት ቆንቊና
    ኣእዳዎም ተኣሲሩ፡ ጽሑፍ ዝሓርሱላ፡ ደቃ ስኢና
    ሃጠው ቀጥው ትብል፡ ዝደልዎ ተስምዕ ንመራሕትና
    መዝገብ፡ ዓሚ ዝመተ ምራኽ፡ ወረ ኢሳያስ ኮይና
    እታ ሓንቲ ቁምነገራ፡ ዝመተ ተርድኣና
    ዝተሰውአ’ውን ምስ ስእሉ ተላልየና

    ወረ እንተደሊኹም ናብ ዓወተ ምጹ
    ኣብ ሓንጎልኩም ዘይርሳዕ ክትሓናጽጹ
    ብዝከኣለኩም ክኣ ጁባኹም ጎርጉሩ ኣዳምጹ

  • Abrehet Yosief

    Selam friends,
    This page is about fund raising. Discussion about other topics could have been done in other pages. I suggest a penalty of $5 for everyone who deviated from fund raising discussion in this page. Awate is stating they are at a risk of closing down, and this serious issue should not be ignored. I don’t know of any other forum where a free discussion is allowed with the level of decency we see here.

    • Amanuel

      Hi Abrhet
      I agree we should focus on the fund raising issue. It is desperate time but forumers seem not to bother that they are ploughing away as business as usual. Awate Team has made it clear that if we don’t chip in what we can to share the burden they don’t know how to continue. I will repeat again “ 50 LEMONS ARE BURDEN TO ONE PERSON BUT BEAUTY TO 50 PEOPLE.”

    • Nitricc

      Greetings Abrehet; do you know what gets me? When we all blame the leaders of a country that they failed on this and they failed on that the biching goes on and yet, here we all are can’t even keep straight a forum, we are not talking about country and polices and all that but a forum. That tells us how failures we all are and we should acknowledge before we point our fingers to the failures of our leaders. so, that out of way and let’s try this. Every one when you go home after the long day at work or school, whatever you do for living. Once you get home before you go to bed, empity your pocket and what ever lose change you find put on a jar or in a box. it does not matter of it is 25c or 50cents; just throw it in the jar or box; then empty the jar or the box, every month or every two months and what ever you find in the jar or box donate to the awate.com. you may think this method is funny but let’s say you collect 0.50 cents every night; that 0.50 cents will amount to 3.50 a weak and 14 dollars in a month. can you imagine if we all contribute 14 dollars a month what we can accomplished, well you get my drift. let’s try this method. I think it will work. what do you say?

      • Abrehet Yosief

        Selam Nitricc,
        Great idea. Shall we take that as your pledge? $14 a month. Perhaps we will have another person matching your pledge.

        • Nitricc

          Hey Abrehet; Absolutely but the idea of collecting lose changes wasn’t for me. I have a personal assistance to help me with that stuff. I really believe everyone wants to help but with life in a way, it is very hard to remember on time and to contribute. So, the idea is whenever you empty your pockets and you placing your lose changes, awate-com will come to your mind and that way this could be a good remainder. I hate lose changes and I just dump them every night and having said that you will be surprised how fast the lose changes could become few dollars.

      • Saleh Johar

        Nitricc,
        First, I apologize for my colleaues for derailing the fundraising drive. Sometimes one gets carried away because we tend to focus on what we care about most. The Minilik topic was so enticing (hey, it is the sort of things I live for) But then, without this forum, I wouldn’t have the platform to express my views. Apologies again.

        Your note is inspiring and I have to thank you for your honest appraisal. Sometimes I ask myself: are we unknowingly conspiring in sustaining our sorry situation? I brush off that thought because it doesn’t help–it’s a negative energy.

        Had awate been used to loitering in donor lobbies, we would be better off. However, being beholden to the deep-pockets is not our choice, we are determined to stay free. What awate.com is asking all of you is, help us stay free.

        Thank Nitricc and thank you all

    • Selamat Abrehet and all,

      The border gets open and several siblings are crossing back and forth. They have that messenger texting capability which they utilize very frequently and you must do what you must. A few ten thousands Bir through the black market you are hesitant and think maybe you can skip your favorite forum website’s annual fund drive. Oh I forgot about the payment plan of last years’s dictionary which took nearly all year to complete. But but but in the end IF I DON’T SACRIFICE AND HANLE MY SHARE WHO WILL?
      So, I encourage every one to do what I just did. Click on the DONATE button up top and it will only take you seconds to complete, So go ahead CLICK on it like I did!

      tSAtSE

      • Hashela

        And remember, as Saleh said, if 120 people donate, on average, $100 each, Awate will be good for a year.

        I did my part today and the good thing is, now Awate has my real name and most likely my address!! Saleh, whenever you are close to my town, stop by we are going to have ግዓት ቡልቱግ!

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Selam Awatistas,

    The despot saluted the Ethiopians by chest beating and kissing his hands. The Ethiopians welcomed him with ululation as their own son. When the despot gave them the key of his kingdom, they start to sing their old song key bahrachin. Listen to what the retired Ethiopian General and the Eritrean General have to say about Eritrea, Tigray, and the Red Sea.

    http://www.gohotube.info/mobile/watch.php?vid=c9447c76c

  • Hope

    “Breaking News”:
    An Excerpt from”TESFANEWS*

    “Kenya’s President Uhuru Kenyatta and Ethiopia’s Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed have arrived on separate flights earlier on Sunday in Eritrea’s capital, Asmara for an official two-day visit.

    Upon arrival at Asmara International Airport, the two leaders were accorded warm welcome by President Isaias Afwerki and other Eritrean senior government officials accompanied with a guard of honor.

    The Kenyan delegation included the Kenyan Minister of Foreign Affairs and Ambassador of Kenya to Ethiopia.

    The Ethiopian delegation included Dr. Workneh Gebeyehu, Minister of Foreign Affairs; Gen. Seare Mokonnen, Chief of Staff of the Ethiopian Defense Forces and Gen. Adem Mohammed, D. G. Security Agency of Ethiopia'”.

    • Peace!

      Hi Hope,

      What do you think is happening?

      Peace!

      • Paulos

        Selam Abi Seb,

        The news item or sound-bite if you will is rendered “Breaking” because the Weyane dude as in Seare is in the mix. This is just when the plot thickens in film noir.

        • Peace!

          Paulosay,

          Do you think the weyane dud as in Seare ንዓዱን ሰቡን የሕሊፉ ይህብ ኣሎ?

          Peace!

          • Paulos

            Selam Abi Seb,

            He is tagged along not so much he is indispensable but to ease up the rattled Weyanes. I am sure he will be made to chill around the garden when the real plot is being hatched.

      • Hope

        Peace:
        Hahahah…Peace Abi Seb wondering and asking:

        “What do you think is happening?”

        For NOTHING else but to finalize the schedule for a complete Withdrawal of the Ethiopian Occupying Forces” from the Sovereign Eri Territories for once and for all.

        Guess who is in town(Asmera) for the first time EVER?

        1)US Congresswomen Bass,Karen and Imal Omer(the FIRST EVER elected Somali-American,the Boldest Congresswoman EVER,May Allah Bless her and keep her safe and STRONGER from the Islamo-phobic Racists and Bigots)

        2)Our own Eri-American, Congressman Yosef(Joe) Nigusse of Colorado.

        Why?

        My guess is like yours.

        It is all good news, Buddy!

        The Germans and Norwegians are in Mekelle to persuade the DYING Weyenti so as to behave and comply with the Rule of Law and to join /catch up the Fast-moving Peace Train???

        Peace!

        Peace!

    • Paulos

      Selam Dr. Hope,

      The news item should read, “Ethiopians including Isaias Afwerki and Abiy Ahmed are visiting the land known as Eritrea to discuss on how to ‘ስክርው the Eritrean people over and over again.”

      • Hashela

        Paulos

        As a hardcore Asmarino, I gues you know the Tigrigna version of ‘ስክርው’

        • Paulos

          Hashela,

          ሰምበት ማዓልቲ ንጭዋታት ሰባት ከምዚ ከማኻ ብዕሉግ ቃል ተጠቂመ ክደፍር ኣይደለኹን።

          If there was a Tigrinya version “Urban Dictionary”, it would be the thickest book of them all. ሹቕ churned out new slangs pretty much every week till the not so “Asmarinos” got lost in the chimera of words.

          • Hashela

            ጭዋ- ዒቢ ሰብ ትሕሾ ድኣ

            The first time I met an asmarino was in Germany. We used to live in the same house where shared the kitchen. He loved to sleep long, say until 3 pm. One late afternoon, he came in the kitchen and I asked him “have eaten lunch”? He responded “ኣሽኪዔያ”. Whenever, I skip lunch the term ኣሽኪዔያ comes to my mind.

          • Paulos

            Hashela,

            That is funny! It is sort of fad with in age brackets. They say, it is insane to be young. And there certainly is peer pressure where you you use those slangs to fit in.

            There was a time when Asmarinos were on top of the game where they came down hard on those considered out of the loop and the meme to that effect was:

            ፋራ መንደፈራ
            ጨው ድራራ

            And all of a sudden the Asmarinos were coming dry in cash as they were kind of “lazy” unable either to take up any kind of casual job or couldn’t make it to colleges or universities. On the other hand, the not so Asmarinos started doing well either in making it to universities or venturing into business and the meme to that effect back then was:

            ተረዘቕ ፋራ
            ሓርግ ኣዝማሪኖ!

            As you know ተረዘቕ means ተኸየፍ፣ and ሓርግ means ተግግ or ሕረቕ።

          • Hashela

            Classic Asmarino😂
            Please tell us more!

          • Paulos

            Hashela,

            In fact, those Asmarinos from wealthy family but unable to stand on their own, this was said to them by those Asmarinos neither from family nor on their own effort:

            ግዜኻ’ዩ ወዲ ቕድስቲ
            ኣዴኻ ተጸሙቕ
            ንስ’ኻ ትሰቲ።

            Good times! The Age of Innocence!

      • Hope

        Selam Doc:
        Probably so per Conspiracy Theory 101. But NEVR under-estimate or forget that Eritreans, since, thus far, whoever attempted to “screw them up and attempted to make them down or kill them are”:
        “Either DEAD or are dying and will die”.

        • Paulos

          Dr. Hope,

          Sure thing brother, sure thing.

    • Amanuel

      Hi Hope
      Uhuru has already gone home. Your information is not accurate.

      • Hope

        Selam Aman:
        Read my response to Peace,the Greatista.
        Plus,it could part of the 5-7 Pillars of agreement that included Security and Defense Agreement, superficially..
        But,as Dr Paulos alluded or suspected, who knows what the beast or the Devil might be cooking up behind the scenes, including but not limited to consolidating his Power and tightening up his brutal security Net Work.
        The conspiracy Theory me and Akhlilu ZerE partially listed and the one about Gen Sibhat Efrem as claimed by SAAY and the General’s old colleagues still holds water, that he is still could be the victim of the same Boss to cleanup things for the Evil Project he and Dr Abiy might be plotting or cooking up against Eritrea and Eritreans as we CANNOT trust these guys. and we a LEGITI(MATE reasons/c to be suspicious. based on tons of circumstantial evidence we have at hand.
        But still it is our collective responsibility to scrutinize things deeply and prepare for any eventuality and even to take a PREMPTIVE action before it is too late..
        We can’t blame our enemies as they are doing their home work and we have to do our homework and stay ahead of them to counter their home work and their dirty and evil agenda, if any..
        Either we have to substantiate the evil agenda/conspiracy and take action seriously and immediately or shut up if we can’t do either of them.

      • Paulos

        Selam Aman,

        They are going back to the drawing board. I suspect, because the original plan, whatever it may have been, is not working out. Perhaps, it has a lot to do with the world wide unity among the diaspora Eritreans which is gaining momentum as they voice their suspicion if Eritrea’s sovereignty is being compromised. Second, the Weyanes are coming out strong and it might have created a glitch in what was being agreed upon between Isaias and Abiy including other elements.

        • Peace!

          Hi Paulosay,

          I suspect, might, whatever may have been, it might have created……wouldn’t be better to say the Eritrean people have no faith in the seating dictator?

          Peace!

          • Paulos

            Selam Abi Seb,

            I don’t think it is a matter of having faith or lack of it. This is a grave matter.

            Here is the deal: When an incredibly reserved person as in Mesfin Hagos spills out what was said in AfAbet in the early 90s when Isaias dished out a done deal proposal on power sharing with the Ethiopian leaders, it tells you that, the recent jaw dropping scenario is not unfounded. A person like Mesfin Hagos wouldn’t have brought it to light, if his suspicion was not strong.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Paulos,

            Likewise, Dr Bereket described the situation as handing over Eritrea to Ethiopia on a “Silver Platter”. We have many clues that could take the penumbra from our eyes. I think, for those who don’t want to believe that a pumpkin is red inside. They should wait until we cut it and show them it is red inside. Those who wait until everything is done are retarded people. To be crippled in the mind is the worst kind of disease in the world.

            Al-Arabi

      • Hameed Al-Arabi

        Ahlan Amanuel,

        Truly, Eritrea has reached a dangerous turning point. Dr. Abiy has brought with him his generals and security men to make strategy how to annihilate the Eritrean Defense Forces. We should not forget Isaias could give permission without hesitation to Ethiopian forces to destroy the Eritrean Defense Forces. It appears, they are planning for swift attack and control of the Eritrean cities, specially Asmara, Massawa, Asseb, Keren, Tessenai, Nakfa, etc.

        We should also remember before sometime Isiaias ordered all military personnel to join their divisions without exemption. It seems, he intends to clear all Eritrean cities from forces so as the Ethiopian army could control the cities without any difficulties. The rest of the Eritrean Defense Forces could be hunted easily outside the cities.

        At last, Isaias and Abie are taking action to eradicate the Eritrean Defense Forces. Really, it is a critical situation and a toll for taking action before actual annihilation. It is a death toll, the death we evade is approaching us.

        Al-Arabi

      • Kaddis

        Hi Aman,

        I didn’t want to say much cause this is a fund raising post but the conspiracy that follows is scary. The horn rulers are in Asmara to get their direction from “Langley” as Isayas used to say. Check the US embassy Facebook page in Asmara. US delegates and the horn rulers are there at the same time. We are just being a regular client state…nothing much.

  • Selam All,

    Everyone will remember Adwa in his special way for his special reason. For Ethiopians and most Africans, it will remain forever their shining and glorious victory over those who came to enslave them. It was their finest moment, for which they will always be proud.

    All ethiopians are now acknowledging that it is their common history, identity, and inheritance, because all of them shade their blood on that day to bring that glorious victory, which has remained in history.

    It would have been great if human history was the result of peace and love. Unfortunately, it is the result of greed, hate, interest and ambitions, which led to innumerable wars and disasters. I remember a movie in which a famous actor said, ‘greed created the usa’. Empires were created through wars and destruction, so was colonialism, the great america and its world-wide national interest, state building during the nineteenth century, and all the rest. War was a common denominator in human history, and remains as such even today.

    We, especially peoples of the horn of africa, have failed to reach a consensus, if the past and the past only, especially its toxic part according to one’s interpretation, should be the foundation on which to bui!d the future. If this is so, of course there would be no future, no peace and no development. Poverty and producing refugees will outshine any of the things they want to be proud of, their history, culture, etc. It is a choice ethiopians and eritreans should make. This requires that everybody should come out of their comfortable shell, and put themselves in the local populations’ shoes. The elites oppose and demonize everything, but they have no alternative solution, except their denial.

    • Hashela

      “እርዳእካ”

      This is a polite way to tell to a beggar ‘”god help you, we have nothing to share with you”

      Sorry for the brevity. I am traveling.

      • እርዳእካ, you too,

        I know you have much more to share with the italians than with ethiopians. That is why your ancestors came with the italian invader twice, killed and died for them. You left, and now you come back even as being shot at from behind, with almost 200K refugees in ethiopia alone, and yet you deny such things are happening in the real world of the horn. You are deaf and blind to the reality on the ground, as people like you should be. Unfortunately for you, whatever you may say, the people are telling you with their actions that your value system does not coincide with theirs anymore. You have to live with it.

        • Hashela

          a single and harmless word (“እርዳእካ”), and here you are decoded and exposed!

        • Berhe Y

          Hi Horizon,

          Do you believe what Menlik did to the Eritrean prisoners of war? Cut their hands and limbs? Do you think it’s fair and right treatment? Compare to the way he treated the Italian POW.

          We are the decendents of those people, do you expect us to celebrate this event?

          This is like we are expecting the Ethiopian families who lost their loved once in war in Eritrea to celebrate ERITREAN / EPLF victory.

          Berhe

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam berhe y
            agree with u in almost everything except u look like u forgot it was a war, the eritreans was there to kill the ethiopians. Why only eritreans, not Italians? It maybe because big Italian forces were still out there in asmara, somalia, Libya and Italy and maybe it had some kind of poltical meaning.

          • Hashela

            Alem

            Berhe is talking about Eritrean POWs, i.e. when this incredibly cruel
            act was carried out the POWs didn’t pose any danger/harm to Ethiopia.

            It is also very possible that racism played a role that only Eritrean POWs (black people) were singled out for the cruel treatment.

            It is a well established phenomenon that black police, teachers, and professors exhibit a comparable racist attitude towards blacks and people of color as their white colleagues.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam hashela
            1st the eritreans were out there to die and kill in order the white Europeans to enslave africans.
            2nd, i know berhe is talking about pow’s
            3, ethiopians r blacks so do eri pow’s, so who is a racist, the one refused to be enslaved by European colonizers or the one fighting along side colonizers to enslave himself and his fellow african brothers?
            4, it was a punishment not to do it again, am not sure but i think they did that before with alula and mengesha yohanes.

          • Hashela

            Alem
            Remember that the Eritrean soldiers were also victims of the Italian Fascist regime and were forced to fight a war that was not theirs. The fact that Ethiopia, supposedly a champion of black matter, failed to recognize their situation speaks volume.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam hashela
            U remember there were a lot of ascari (yewesett’e aribegn)who worked for ethiopia secretly and they r still celebrated in ethiopia.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Teodros,

            I am sure Menlik knew what he was doing. They were solidiers who obeyed orders and they had no choice but to fight where they were told.

            My question was, why those POW who were harmless once surrendered were treated with such cruelty?

            Why they spared the Italians?

            That was my question. If you say they deserve it then, እርዳእካ.

            Leave us alone keep your glory to yourselves. If you want us to celebrate, then your government at the highest level needs to apologize the way it treated our people at its mercy.

            Berhe

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam berhe
            1st,They were not eritrea soldiers, they were Italian ascari. u need to know the difference,
            2nd,they were forced argument doesn’t hold water, there were a lot of eritreans ascaris who worked for ethiopia as a secret spys and they were the one who played a major role for the victory.
            3rd, i was just telling the possibility of what was happening, i didn’t say they deserve it.
            4th, it is nothing to do with eritrea as a country or eritreans, at the matter of fact there were so many “Banda” ethiopians, so don’t make it about eritrea, it is nothing to do with eritrea, it is about with banda and ascaris of ur family.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Teodros,

            They are human beings who were recruited to be solidiers. They were fighting along side their army?

            Do you dispute this fact or not.

            They were captured and they were prisoners of war?

            Do you dispute this fact or not?

            For fighting with the “enemy” do they deserve to be “punished” your words by amputating their arms and limbs ?

            Do you dispute this fact or not?

            There were Italians solidiers who were leading in the same war that were captured as well. All of them were sent without harm.

            Do you dispute this fact or not?

            Berhe

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam berhe
            I don’t dispute they were fighting along side the European colonizers to enslave themselves and to enslave other fellow african brothers.
            If u r talking about human rights of the 19th century, compare it with other countries human rights condition of 19th century, by the way there r 100s of ethiopians “banda” punished by death( hung on the street).
            For the rest of ur questions already told u , reread my response from the beginning.

          • Selam Berhe,

            It was a double crime – fighting other africans by standing on the side of the white colonialist + fighting to facilitate the enslavement of others, some of them related to them in blood.

            Eritrean askaris were devoted fighters who swore in the name of Italy, the king and duce. Hence, the Italians had issued stamps to commemorate their service and devotion, and planted trees in the name of some outstanding askaris.

            If menilik took such measures to teach a lesson so that it is not repeated, as he might have thought, in the age when there was no international law concerning pow, we should know that worse things were happening all over africa by the colonizers. The aim, I think, is to minimize the crimes committed by eritrean askaris in ethiopia and elsewhere (somalia and libya, hence why it was said that it was not italy that was the colonizer but eritreans) by magnifying their punishment. Is it possible to forget the tens of thousands of poorly armed Ethiopians who were killed by Eritrean askaris armed with modern Italian weapons.

            Italian prisoners were not spared because they were white, but because they could be exchanged for weapons and menilik could dictate his terms. I think that this could be one of the explanations.

            You don’t seem to believe in crime that should be followed by punishment. Please ask yourself why they came in the first place to kill other people. If you believe that they have been paid to kill, you should accept that at the same time, they have been paid to die and lose arms under any circumstances for the sake of italy. The victimizers become victims themselves, and you refuse to ask yourself why one should go to commit crime in the first place. Is there justice for the invaders and killers only, and not for those whose country and people are victimized? What about the dead ethiopians, who were killed in their own country and in their own home by the better armed eritrean askaris on the side of the italian invader?

            Nobody is expected to celebrate his defeat. Your ancestors were standing on the wrong side of history. You seem to have no problem with that. Why do you expect an African country that was victimized by a combination of a white and black army to feel guilty? That is a travesty of justice. If ethiopians have to apologize for what menilik has done, eritreans should first apologize for invading ethiopia twice supporting italians and committing crimes against other africans.

            Finally, you are among the strong opposers of the new rapprochement. Don’t you think that Ethiopians and Eritreans should open a new chapter and move forward. It is not possible to hate war, and at the same time to oppose peace, as some people try to do.

    • Hameed Al-Arabi

      Hi Horizon,

      Your elites gape their mouths widely to swallow everything, and the Eritrean “elites oppose and demonize everything“. Your divide and rule (Elites vs Local population) will not work, it is is rotten. Don’t you have any other ploy?

      Al-Arabi

      • Hashela

        Hameed

        How do you translate እርዳእካ in Tigre. እርዳእካ is a polite way to tell to a beggar ” God help you, I don’t have something at hand that I can share with you”.
        ?ዓለ ኣላህ

        • Hameed Al-Arabi

          Hi Hashela,

          In Tigre they say, “ኣላህ ከሪም” that means: God is kind. In the case of Horizon you say to him, “ያፍታሕ ኣላህ” Let God open for you according to your intention, Hell or Heaven. ምከረው ምከረው እምቢ ካለ መከራ ምከረው

          Al-Arabi

  • Haile S.

    Selam Saleh,

    Appeal and appeal and again appeal to all who visit, enjoy and learn something from this site should continue. And there is tremendous material to learn from in this website. Most of us here, write, cite, call memory not for the sake of bragging of reading or recalling something, but principally to share. If only this site was easily accessible to Eritrean students!
    To continue feeding this silo of knowledge, we need to maintain it. And there is no other way other than contributing an amount of money that we can. There is no such thing as little amount of money. Ten or 20 dollars is not little money, especially when everyone does it.

    Today is March 3rd. Weeks ago, in my exchange with Hayat and Paulos, I had mentioned about the 1500 Eritrean Italian Askari prisoners that were amputated by Abyssinians following a decision taken on this very day by Menelik, Itege Taitu, ras Mengesha and the Abune (patriarch) at Aba Garima following the victory of Adwa. And I had promised Paulos to share document related to the event. Here for today is a link to a photo of few of them who were treated at the Massawa hospital. The photo was taken by an Italian, Luigi Naretti who took most of the photos related to that period. I hope the link works.
    https://goo.gl/images/5gdtQw

    • Saleh Johar

      Hi Haile,
      Thanks for the explanation. Unfortunately, we are so captivated with news (we can’t blame it on anything but our sorry state). We think that a society can improve and advance with unlimited supply of news and current events. With that obsession, we forget the pursuit of other knowledge that could really develop societies.

      In fact the Adwa anniversary is a good example. In 1997, in Dehai, I wrote the battle was significant when seen from an African perspective, from the perspective of exploitation of mankind, and from the anti-colonialism struggle. I was attacked like there is no tomorrow. People were mad because they thought I had the temerity to admire Minilik’s battle. The one dimensional look at events is crippling our intellectual pursuit (I am uni dimensional when it comes to the PFDJ and its boss, but I consider that something God will approve 🙂

      I think Minelik was a ruthless feudal lor, a warmonger and a blood sucker. He din’t have the slightest sense of justice or humanity and should be remembered as such withing the regional context. His brutalities in the South of present-day Ethiopia is unimaginable–he enslaved hundreds of thousands of free people and foolishly, we tend to blame the white-man alone for slavery. Some evem consider him an exemplary king. Why not? Those who benefited from his pillaging and become land owners with land expropriated from proud owners who were enslaved by Minilik.

      Thank yiu

      • Haile S.

        Selam Saleh,

        You must have read the recital of the Belgian Gaston Vanderheym who stayed 20 months in Abyssinia in his book or his article in ‘Le tour du Monde’ entitled ‘une expedition avec le negus Menelik’. Vanderheym stayed with Menelik throughout his invasion and massacre of the Welamos. It is unbearable to read the massacre part of it. I will continue answering to Meba T.

        • Saleh Johar

          HaileS,
          I didn’t know about that book, now I will look for it. Thank you

      • Teodros Alem

        Selam Saleh Johar
        The thing is, if other powers(like tona , yohanes sons or others) of the region had the same power just like Minilik did, i would say they would be far far worse but thank God they didn’t got the power to conquer just like Minlik did.
        even after 125 years(on 21st century) we r witnessing the present day little powers of the region how they r ruthless, warmonger and blood sucker they r .
        The thing is, Minilik was the proud of not just proud ethiopians but also the proud of proud Africans.

        • Saleh Johar

          Selam Tedros,
          You are right. It’s impossible to tell what others, if they were kings, would have done. But they were not. So, comparing Minelik in a hypothetical imagination would be wrong relativism. How do we know they could have been worse or better? He was a king and he was real. And history talks about real incidents and real actors. Here was are discussing an epoch and we can judge him on what he did not other abstract probabilities I hope you see my point.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Saleh Johar
            king aba jefar of jimma used to rule keffa and the keffa people was in a worst situation under aba jafar of jimma than under menelik, what about empireor yohanes, Ahmed Gragn and so on, they r a proven fact.
            And what about the present days (21st century) little powers of the region,
            We can’t judge Menelik with the present day democratic laws, if we have to judge him, we have to judge him by the 19th century laws and way of life and based on that in my opinion he is the pride of africa.
            The current little powers of the region r the most barbaric, backwards and blood suckers based on 21st century laws and life style.

          • Saleh Johar

            Now you are losing me, dear Tedros,
            Imagine someone killed an an innocent person in Jimma. Another man killed ten persons in Dessie. Now imagine a discussion about the man who committed the specific Jimma killing. Would it make sense to derail the discussion by arguing, “But another man killed ten in Dessie”? Would that be rational thinking or an excuse for the criminal in Jimma? Would that absolve Minilki of his crimes?

            Remember such issues are generally subjective in nature because we are not in a court of law and the discussion is not based on scientific data, but rational thinking, hopefully. If there were rulers worse than Minelik, and if there is an occasion to remember and talk abut them, go ahead, educate us. But please do not bring other stories to weaken the impact of Minilik’s monstrosity on the victims. I will make it easier for you: imagine you are ‘god’ judging Minilik, would you let him go free because there might have been worse people than him? Let me help you more, I think you will judge him for what he did, regardless of what other kings did. The other kings (all of them by the way) are judged based on what they committed, in their own cases, not on relative weight against other crimes. Each one is buried alone (unless a mass murder victim of Minelik and Haile Selassie, in which case it’s a mass grave), and each one is judged for what he committed of crimes, not in relation and in comparison to others.

            You cannot tell a mother not to mourn the death of her child because some other woman has lost two of her children. The topic is Minilik, try to seay in topic.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Saleh Johar
            What i am saying was, let us judge menelik based on 1, the 19th century rule of laws, the commen practice and laws of the 19th century. 2, by comparison with other kings of his time and 3, by his over all achievements. 4, let us not judge him based on the 21st century system and current reality.

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Tedros,
            Sorry, I give up. This is my last attempt.

            Wrong has been wrong since creation. Nazi existed decades ago, but when it comes to atrocities and genocide, the judgement stays the same. No time machine can erase that crime. We live in the 21st century, and we judge history based on what we know now. Slavery was bad at any give time, if we accept your reasoning, it would mean something else. How do we judge slavery? Based on the reasoning of the time of the enslaver? Where is the moral compass? Gold was cheaper decades ago, yet, gold was always valuable. Blood letting was wrong before, it’s wrong now, and will always be wrong. That about sums up my input on the topic because if I continue, I will be going in circles.

            Stay good

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Saleh Johar
            Slavery was bad than and bad now, there is no question about it. but menelik was not the only king who practiced slavery at the time. And except the slaves themselves, almost the whole world is guilty of slavery at the time. and based on ur reasoning i don’t think we can find a single innocent not just kings and rulers but a single person.

    • Meba T

      Dear Haile,
      I am an Ethiopian who enjoy this forum. I have learned a lot about Eritrea. No one can deny the sacrifice Eritreans paid to create an independent country. I believe we can live together as good neighbors with common history sometimes in the past. I read what you wrote about Menelik amputating Eritreans who fought on the side of the Italians. At the time you said all (Menelik, Taitu, Mengesha etc) to be blamed. I agreed. Since you brought the story again, it is good to tell the whole story. An Eritrean by the name Afewerk Gebre Eyesus wrote the first Amharic book on Menelik called “Dagmawi Ate Menelik”. On that book he said Mengesha was mad because of his previous defeat by the Italians. He accused the Askaris to cause the defeat. As a result after the victory of Adwa he requested to punish them. Unfortunately Menelik approved the request. But when Afewerk accused him on the first Ethiopian news paper (Afewerk was the editer) about the case, Menelik was repentant and allowed Afewerk to put it in a book to warn future leaders from making same mistake.

      • Haile S.

        Dear Meba T.,
        You said “I believe we can live together as good neighbors with common history sometimes in the past”. I completely agree with you. On Menelik, it is great that he regreted his decision, if true. However, we should remember that history tends to get polished after the events. In the history that I started talking in my answer to Saleh, after a long day of massacre, Ras Michael brings the vanquished leader of the Welamos, Tona, to Menelik’s tent. Menelik receives him and reproaches him for fighting saying ‘you brought the wrath’ upon yourself. Tona replies, it was the maliciousness of my heart that tried to resist such powerful enemy. The next day Menelik continues to subdue a neighbouring people that Vanderheym calls Guemos. The battle was ending and their leader surrendering. Menelik in person shoots the tallest standing among the enemy with his winchester and declares the end of the kill.
        Again I agree with you, there is nothing hindering us to live in peace side by side while telling our history as it happened without using it as a gun against present challenges.

        • Meba T

          Hi Haile,
          A lot of articles and books are written on Menelik. Americans and European colonizers wrote books painting him as a very cruel king. We know why. He is a black king who defeated a major European Army. He is a nineteen century king, who fought under the rules of engagement of the time. Yes, it is not only the Europeans who practiced slavery. I believe the whole region was involved in selling people as slaves (the Arabs being the major traders). So all of us who know our history should remember that our ancestors did cruel things on others and should feel some shame, and fight discrimination when we see it. The difference is in Ethiopia and in most part of history, the winner forces the defeated into slavery. But in Europe and America they went beyond and associated slavery to race. In the two years the Italian negotiated with Menelik to get their people, American and European writers painted Menelik as a cruel person. It was used to raise money and justify their invasion of the country. I remember reading one of the Italia prisoners who wrote a book in reply to what he found in returning to Rome. He wrote how the prisoners were well fed and the Emperor himself monitored their menu. But a united front from all parts of Ethiopia and some who came from Eritrea defeated them. I understand if some hate Menelik and everyone is entitled to their opinion. But today we Ethiopians and a lot of black people in the world who admire his courage celebrate Adwa. Finally, Haile are you sure none of your great grand parents practices slavery?

          • Haile S.

            Hi Meba,
            Is was a great victory, and Abyssinian people did great in fighting and defeating Italy. The discussion was how leaders were inhumaine towards those that look like them and to their citizens. Leaders are those that let the ordinary kill the ordinary, to take the cattle, the women and kill. Leaders like Menelik were welcoming in receiving foreigners in order to get arms and ammunitions show their achievements. Vanderheym was allowed all accesses and documented with photography. I didn’t accuse anyone for being a lone practitioner of slavery. Going there is going to take us to a lengthy exchange without end. If you were thinking about how Italians treated Eritreans, the heinous racism, I know it very well. People were getting 25 hits of whip on bare back for entering a white borough by mistake. But, this doesn’t make the devastation and killing of others by zealots justifiable or less harming because they didn’t let their land be taken by force. On owning slaves, when you tell me about your great grand fathers, I will tell you of mine, if any.

          • Meba T

            Dear Dr. Haile,
            I agree with you that there was no justification for the killings and the devastation done by our ancestors. But it happened! It is history! Unfortunately even in the 21st century, people are still being killed and tortured by their own leaders. What is their justification? I hope for a peaceful change to come to Eritrea and Ethiopia.
            As for telling about our grandparents, let us not go there. The late Solomon Deresa (brother of Yilma Deresa) said “Only our grand mothers know who we are”. He was answering to the question “Do you have Amhara blood…”

            Thank you!

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam meba t
            It was a war and it was 19th century, a time bigger tribes used to enslave smaller tribes and sell it to white people in africa, if the other side won the war and had more power than empireor Menelik did, they would have been much worst and there r 100s of evidence to prove they would have been much worst,
            and the 21st century little powers of the region r a good example of how they r backward, barbaric and blood sucker than empireor menelik of the 19th century.

          • Meba T

            Dear Teodros Alem,
            I didn’t get what you wanted to say. Through reconciliation and healing process, Rwanda was able to move beyond the terrible genocide which killed 800,000 people. I want to see the same process among our people to move beyond the current politics. I hope to see similar process between Eritrea and Ethiopia too!

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam meba
            I was talking about menelik legacy.
            And i thought u were taking same thing.

      • Fanti Ghana

        Selam Meba T,

        Afework Gebreyesus was not Eritrean. He was Ethiopian and extremely unreliable in anything he wrote. He wrote to please whoever was in power for possible favors.

        He sided with Italians during the second Italian war, obviously thinking that Italy had the upper hand, and he was sentenced to life in prison afterwards and he died in prison.

        Here are some quotes from his book to think about:

        “Contrary to the times of Yohannes, all suffering disappeared during the reign of the magnanimous Menelik…”

        “Wherever the Amhara army marches and stays, the land becomes greener the very next morning. In contrast, the Tigrayan army, like locust, was devastating the land wherever it stayed.”

        “[When Tigrayans speak] in their language which lacerates the throat, pregnant women undergo miscarriage while the breast of women who just had delivery dries out.”

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Hailat,

      Thank you for the link. The picture is a hard copy of the barbaric act of Minelik.

  • Brhan

    Hello SGJ
    I believe the Eritrean style will work: Uqub where you outreach donors…. Let us say if we form a committee of 5 and if each one of us list 5-10 of his friends and relatives then the number of donors will be minimum 25 and maximum 50. This is as an example but the number can go up the more the number of committee members the more the donors. We are thinking to implement this in our side.
    As you know in this work there are a lot of issues that we have to take care:
    1) donation should be documented and copies must be sent to awate
    2) PF(JD)s and its sympathizers are always doing campaigns against this type of work and one of their new tactic is to depict those who are volunteering to support website like awate.com…as persons collecting the money for their own benefit…it is an easy way to attack and they have used it to anyone who is leading an opposition group or a civic group before
    3) While the style that I mentioned is effective , but committees must conduct public meeting to explain how much they have collected, why they have collected and how they are sending the money collected to awate.com

    • Saleh Johar

      Hello Berhan,
      In every appeal we made, we kept saying numbers are important. We also suggested people convince their close circles and then form a group in different localities. Maybe that seemed like being organized for an organization and many Eritreans, unfortunately, do not like to be part of groups. We tried that for years. It didn’t work. We hold that anything becomes easier when shared by bigger numbers.

      The second thing is that reminding people is tiresome and a distraction. To avoid that, we suggested automatic monthly payments in smaller amounts. The maximum who committed to 10, 15, and 20 are five people since we solicited support a long time ago. It didn’t work

      Truth be said, the most responsive people are forum members many of who has contributed generously offsetting the weak response from others. Still, they are very few.

      We ask: why can’t we have 120 people each donating 100 yearly? That would make our life easier. We know people are not stingy but there are problems that are standing in the way. We do not have any sectarian, regional, or partisan loyalty but Eritrea as a whole. And in a fragmented envauronment, many people do not like our neutral position in inter-Eritrean politics. Yet, we have been labeled all sorts of pathetic names. We never swayed from our loyalty to Eritrea and only people who share our values, and our all welcoming policies have been our real supporters when it comes to such appeals.

      Therefore, I appeal to all members to help in the fundraising campaign. This is not something we can do alone. Your feedback could help us make a breakthrough.

      • Amanuel

        Hi Saleh
        I couldn’t agree more numbers are the trick but It is shame that even we didn’t manage to raise half of what is required. I think it appears that it is becoming barking at the wrong tree and we are required to think out of the box.
        For now I have sent $100 and wish I was in a position to write you a cheque for $12k.

      • Peace!

        Hi Saleh,

        Numbers matter in a sense the more people the website accommodates the more support it gets therefore reaching out people comfortable with languages other than English seems vital for boosting support. It doesn’t have to be well written articles or translating them into multiple languages rather short videos, interviews or live debates to which most people seem to pay more attention nowadays. The other thing is the website needs to find its voice on social media, and for that, awate team needs young activists to reach out to young audiences in a language and culture they are comfortable with. Finally, often the forum recommends useful history books rarely available online or bookstores that trying auctioning used books might entail temporary relief.

        Peace!

        • Saleh Johar

          Selam Peace,
          You are young, aren’t you?

          In fact the segregation of young and old is only significant in organizational settings–naturally, soldiers can only be young 😉 But anyone who is beyond 18 and educated (most probably had education in English), they should not be segregated from any age group. Knowledge doesn’t recognize age, intellectual capacity is not measured by age.

          The number of people visiting awate is in the thousands, from all age groups. I do not think it is an age issue. Taking action seems to be a problem we all suffer from.

          As for expanding to accommodate other languages, we have set the infra-structure and anyone who wants to write, it is there. We have made numerous calls and invitations. Maybe you ca help convince writers to come on board. You can even set up a team to take over the entire editorial task of the languages section and we can take our hands off it. I am serious, we have that conviction since a long time. Maybe HaileS can take the Tigrinya editorial task, maybe others–I am just showing you how serious we are on that.

          We have good presence on social media (awate page has 8400 followers, all organic not added without their knowledge), and we have also an AWATE GROUP page–I can’t say the details and plans for that group yet, but just be ready when the time comes:-). Every article published at awate is well distributed on social media–in short, our social media presence is fine, but if there are suggestions to improve, please let us know in detail so that we can implement your ideas.

          As for the fundraising, I agree there are many ways to enhance our campaigns–but we cannot do it all on our own, we need help on that as well. If you remember last year, a book auction by Beyan Negash yielded $250 (won by Tsatse) We need actions like the one Beyan did on behalf of awate.com. Only then we can focus of focusing on editorial, communications, research and other pertinent tasks and in between, we can do some work enough to sustain ourselves.

          Finally, please think of how you can get involved closely to help–that is where numbers matter.

          Thank you

      • Hashela

        Saleh

        I am travel in the Far East. So I instructed my wife to wire my contribution to Awate Foundation. Don’t be surprised or confused if you see a contrbuting name that does not sound like ለተኺዳን ለተኣምላኽ but ለተክሪስቲና ለትዩልያ ለተኣማንዳ (Haile S., I am still laughing).

        • Saleh Johar

          Thanks Hashela,
          Your nick makes me nostalgic, but as you said, whatever, the name, I thank you on behalf of all members and the Awate Team.
          Thank you

          • Hashela

            Saleh
            couple weeks ago I went to a grocery to buy food for my daughter’s bird and I saw that they sell our beloved ቡልቱግ as a bird food! Can you believe this? I miss nothing than ግዓት ቡልቱግ

          • Saleh Johar

            Hashela,
            You are too late. I discovered it long time ago and tried to grind it on a blender, it was messy. Nothing like the smooth paste I am used to. Now that you reminded me, I will give it another try, even if I had to find a useful “meThan” and “medeed”. now I remembered r’esi medeed. This will be the last violation from my side (and others), please let’s keep this page focused.