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Dejen: A Chosen Man

Introduction

I long time came to understand YG’s mindset in devaluing the reality of Eritrea and Eritrean historical legacies. His mindset is a result of rejection. This rejection is as a result of personal observation. I once wrote my understanding on YG’s work on awate.com reading as:

“YG’s objective as a thinker and smart writer who can write what he thinks is the gist he has. And this quality is misleading as much as one appreciates his single work or his overall materials. This being as common base that I can share with you, then comes what? You admire one because you have a means at the end if not it is just a surprise (Unlike what Emmanuel Kant argued, the end justifies the means). One gets surprised if and only if there is a limit. One philosopher used to say, “Let’s not be conquered by surprise.” Surprise the image of pride on oneself. If a surprise cannot give us a way to another surprise then we stop valuing other things. This is the hidden power of YG. He never failed to recruit people who get surprised by him.

For this, he uses a logical fallacy, a fallacy that falls deep into the social lip-holes to induce what it he has imagined so that breathing is easier, to say what already is in his sub-conscious thinking, the imagined, perceived or better conceived.

Dejen became a sheep for YG, a holy sacrifice, a sacrifice in the name of Heroes. And this hero came through the 7 interviews to the attention of the loophole searching man. YG did not hesitate then to slaughter in his butchery, the experimental laboratory of course. What he came-out with then?”

This piece of writings put me in high tension with my Awatista best teacher and mentor Haw Amanuel Hidrat. Brother Amanuel understood as if I was addressing the message to him directly and he brought his aged political stand as a defense mechanism. I was really shocked to read his defensive mantra. What irritated him is unknown to me though I was not.

Haw Amanuel H. wrote;

“Please, I will ask you to re-read again your comment. One has to think twice before he said something about someone. You have said “He never failed to recruit people who get surprised by him”. So Amanuel is surprised and recruited by YG at this stage of his political career. How do you differentiate between “recruited individuals” and “individuals by virtue of their own knowledge tend to agree to someone’s view.”? For instance I agreed with Tes on his view on what he wrote about PFDJ ideology, does it mean I am also recruited by Tes? This is ridiculous to say the least.

You said also “One gets surprised if and only if there is a limit”. So I have a limit in my knowledge to understand the argument of YG. Can you please tell me where my limits are? I chose not to do the same thing to you as you did to me, just for the respect of the debate and awitistas.

I will leave you with this question. What is the core message of YG’s latest article? What is recruited means in the vocabulary of your mind? When do you agree with someone without being recruited? Once I get answers to these questions, I will know how to tackle you”

After reading this I came to respond that I was not meant to him and if I failed to make it correctly, I asked an apology and he looked ignoring it. Though I sincerely put it instead of rejecting or accepting he went further and insisted me to write a fully and detailed account of my view. What I understand so far, Haw Amanuel Hidrat seems as if I did not read the whole content of the article and probably consider my responses were on my previous perception. Though I can tell you that what I responded was what I conclude after reading, my first reading was not that much detailed and word by word contemplation. Now, I did it as a thesis paper and is detailed reading to find what each sentence is meant and why he put them

According to Haw Amanuel Hidrat, YG’s recent article on asmarino.com entitled by, Dejen’s Syndrome: the Contradictions of the Eritrean Mind, doesn’t talk about emancipation and emancipators, Emama Ethiopia or Grandma-USA, or anything else. This article talks about “heroism and ambivalence.” [In response to Mahmud Saleh]. Expressing his view on this work, haw Amanuel went further on his personal understanding of what he read. In response to Mahmud Saleh, he said;

“First, let me formulate and approach the issue by Q and A. Is Degen an exemplary of heroes? Yes he does. Is Degen expressive and composed in the way he narrate his story? Very much so. Does Degen show ambivalence in certain aspect of his narration? Yes he does. Does Degen require certain time to free himself from the political culture of ghedli? Yes I believe so. Does his ambivalence affect his integrity? absolutely not ( reason= decuturalization takes time). Remember we are still governed by the political culture of ghedli. Right after independence the political culture of ghedli should have been transformed to civic governance. We have failed to do so.”

After having this kind of conversation, haw Amanuel Hidrat looked in doubt of my conclusion and has given me an assignment to write my view on the current YG’s article in a more detailed manner. I am here then today with my homework done. I hope I did what I am asked to do. Good reading

YG under a Microscope

I may not be well qualified to evaluate YG’s work from age and experience wise, but as an academic person and considering my responsibility as a citizen, nothing is wrong to write what I understand from what I read within his very tedious and voluminous recent article. In this kind of review report, I have tried to use appropriate research methodology that I came across in my academic life. I believed this work is a thorough research outcome though within limited time.

In this mini research work, the methodology followed utilizes steps such as; identifying/stating the problem, developing a hypothesis, literature review, observations, findings and analysis, and finally conclusions. As I was motivated and insisted to write this review based on conversations done between haw Amanuel Hidrat and me, the problem that is dealt here is initiated from a question addressed to me to cross-check what I stated and brought as into deviation. Haw Amanuel had his own understanding on YG’s article and I had quite different and opposing view on this particular YG’s work.

Problem:   YG doesn’t talk about emancipation and emancipators, Emama Ethiopia or Grandma-USA, or anything else. This article talks about “heroism and ambivalence.” Retrieved from haw Amanuel Hidrat’s response to Mahmud Saleh

Hypothesis:

  1. YG’s objective as a thinker and smart writer who can write what he thinks is the gist he has. And this quality is misleading as much as one appreciates his single work or his overall materials.
  2. YG uses logical fallacy, a fallacy that brings logical conclusions of much bigger entity based on single or group characters most of the time, negative aspects to induce what is imagined/received or conceived so the entire mass can bear the same.
  3. YG is bases on his own concluded marks as valid as it is.

Objective:

My main objective is to disproof haw Amanuel Hidrat’s understanding about the article in which I took as major problem. Equally, I want to expose numerous tactics used by YG to recruit followers of his myth.

Stating the basic formulation of my microscopic approach, I will break the main content of my literature review and analysis into three parts: one vocabulary selection, parables covered, thinkers consulted/referred and facts distorted for the reason of his mission.

1. Vocabulary selection

Words are the building blocks of properly conveying ideas. Ideas could be missed for being not understood, or volumes could be written instead of stating them using selective words very precisely and concisely. I have a shortage with this kind of skill as my English vocabulary is not well developed. Sorry I might be failing to convey like what like how I wanted as per the expectations. I need your patience. In the contrary, YG is far par excellence as a greater writer. Every paragraph has always new words for me and is good though I am not preparing for GRE at this time for getting scholarship to USA.

This word usage skill allowed him to merge infinite messages within the carefully put words in every sentence. In this then I have picked the most important words crafted in the article. I used online dictionaries to define some words that I found are clue to the entire article. Just for your information, here I have collected 7 words that can help you further pay attention for the word usage. The rest can be picked by you while re-reading the entire article.

  1. Syndrome: [1] pathology, psychiatry. A group of symptoms those together are characteristic of a specific disorder, disease, or the like. [2] a group of related or coincided things, events, actions, etc.[3] a group of related or coincident things, events, actions, etc. [4] a predictable, characteristic pattern of behavior, actions, etc., that tends to occur under certain circumstances:
  2. Contradiction: [1] The act of contradicting; gainsaying or opposition. [2] Assertion of the contrary or opposite; denial. [3] A statement or proposition that contradicts or denies another or itself and is logically incongruous. [4] Direct opposition between things compared; inconsistency. [5] a contradictory act, fact, etc
  3. Deprive: to remove or withhold something from the enjoyment of possession of (a person or persons). [2] To remove from ecclesiastical office.
  4. Instinct: [1] an inborn pattern of activity or tendency to action common to a given biological species. [2] A natural or innate impulse, inclination, or tendency. [3] A natural aptitude or gift: an instinct for making money. [4] Natural intuitive power.
  5. Mar: To damage or spoil to a certain extent; render less perfect, attractive, useful, etc.; impair or spoil
  6. Dubious: doubtful; marked by or occasioning doubt, [2] of doubtful quality or propriety; questionable: a dubious compliment; [3] of uncertain outcome: in dubious battle. [4] wavering or hesitating in opinion; inclined to doubt
  7. Dubious: [1] Hesitating or doubting, [2] Morally suspect:, [3] Of questionable value
  8. Frivolously: Not having any serious purpose or value.

Choosing the Title

YG gave a title to his voluminous article as “Dejen’s Syndrome: the Contradictions of the Eritrean Mind.” The title is composed of two units: one, Dejen’s syndrome and second the contradiction of the Eritrean mindset. To infer the contradiction of Eritrean mindset, he used Dejen’s syndrome. According to his logical fallacy, Dejen’s syndrome is what we see in the Eritrean mindset. And yet, both differ in one critical way: while the former focuses on the sense of urgency needed to save the nation, in the latter we meet the main bottlenecks that have kept Eritreans prisoners of their own minds, depriving them of that very sense of urgency that the Bishops talk about.

What YG is aiming at while giving his article a title as such? To answer this basic question, we need to define the terminologies manipulated to his intended outcome. A syndrome is characteristic combination of opinions, emotions, or behavior, or in medicine and psychology, is the collection of signs and symptoms that are observed in, and characteristic of, a single condition. Both definitions are appropriate for the article. YG’s objective is very clear from the title by itself. He was looking for syndromes.

One thing YG forgot is that he did not put Dejen as Tegadalai. Tegadalai in the Eritrean context is a person who is gave-up his life for the common good. Tegadali does not own his life. The common goal owns him. And the common goal is to have a country so called Eritrea. For this, he surrenders himself to the revolution. Once he gave-up, the revolution has all the power infested on him. Takes what it is given, lives in the way the revolution lives, do what he is ordered to do. There is no individual liberty so the revolution works for that. To create such tegadalai, there is an ideology that brainwash this individual and dissociate his self and hands to the revolution. This is how a true revolutionary mindset can be created.

On the paramount, Dejen is the revolution by himself. If we consider this revolution is a disease, then what? Simply, Dejen is a disease. No need to search for the symptoms. Dejen is all the symptoms. We can infer nothing from this. Ok, if YG did this for me, as I am the after revolution generation it is fine (though not tegadalai, living for 23 under PFDJ ideological administration cannot make me free of such symptoms). What YG did is like asking for evidences to a sick person while he reaches the doctor with all his medical records. Thinking YG like this doctor, what YG did is he threw all the records without checking and went all laboratory checks and came up with the same result.

Dejen is the patient and he has all past medical records. He does not want a doctor who tells him his symptoms, what he wants is caring. The strong side of Dejen is he came with all medicines, he just want a resting place. He is not begging for that too. He just wants FREEDOM. Instead of giving such noble freedom and leave him free, a virus called YG came in search of a fertile land if available so that this virus can be multiplied rapidly to the whole population, the Eritreans. And for this, he baptized the title as “Dejen’s Syndrome; the contradiction of the Eritrean mind.” Eritreans know their diseases and have all the medicines but what they are missing is a place where they can take freely what they want.   But, YG has discarded this and is back to his laboratory in search of the symptoms. Poor YG! Let’s go anyway.

Fake Praise: Dejen’s Psychological Screening as a Double Standard

In the mind of YG, Dejen came with positive and negative (rather weakness) attributes. The strong side of Dejen as explained by YG: He is a brilliant fellow, a lucid narrator, an honest citizen and a very courageous man, humble and with palpable decency. YG further strengthened Dejen as an example par excellence of the quintessential hero. And, in the other hand the favorite character, probably the main reason why he came into the writer’s attention, is Dejen’s honest breathtaking uniqueness in the ears of YG. He said, “In a culture marred by duplicity, his [Dejen’s] honesty is breathtaking; at no time does he try to deliberately cover his weaknesses. In a society that long time now described by YG as “marred culture” Dejen became as a unique imposer. For this, such unmarred behavior that he never imagined for its existence forced him to remark as; “his will power is astounding, in that he never allowed his spirit to be broken down in 15 years of life in prison.”

Unlike the Eritrean people, people which are described by YG as people with marred culture, Dejen shined as free and with minimum confounding factors from characters that ail the rest Eritreans. YG further found Dejen free from looking an officer/or a person in a rank as he did not possess any kind of a dubious character. What YG might not happy with Dejen is that in the narration nothing can be traced as lethal flaws of the nationalist type.

Hence, Dejen is one that he never expected from a person who spent 15 years of his life under a brutal prison center of the ruling regime. YG could not see the spoiled Eritrean culture that he imagined; Dejen is as humble as he is a hero and above all pure nationalist citizen. With all such psychological screening, YG was not happy to stop seeing Dejen as a hero as he is. He has chosen him as a sacrifice and went further in detail to formulate myths based on this righteous citizen.

Objective of YG’s Article

YG is not happy with the brevity of this man. He wanted to diagnose him further. He expected faults, outraged insults vomiting, and a man who discredits the Gedli, a man who condemns the who revolution, a man who says “useless people”, a man who did not prefer ay positive aspect, and a person who is weak at least in his narration. YG never imagined such qualities of individuals exist.

YG could not accept this to exist. Dejen has become unique. This uniqueness that went all along those old and prison days attracted the attention of the writer. To have such qualities that thrived after 15 years of prison and lonely life under a brutal prison center of the ruling regime must be superior. YG could not see the spoiled Eritrean culture that he imagined; Dejen is as humble as he is a hero and above all pure nationalist citizen.

With all such psychological screening, YG was not happy to stop seeing Dejen as a hero as he is. He has chosen him as a sacrifice and went further in detail to formulate myths based on this righteous citizen. He has chosen to dissect the inner soul in case of faults and he supposed these fault findings to help him to build his “Fallacy Philosophy,” be it formal or informal. This philosophy the perfect tool utilized since long time ago when YG starts to write for his mission.

YG is not happy with this thus he went to create arguments so that the Eritrean identity can be again visited for designing a new methodology of devaluing whatever it exists. Dejen is not welcomed. Something has to be devised so that no such Eritrean qualities, be it at individual or societal level to exist and have a nursery mind/place within. To this, YG formulated a clear objective to go further into deep philosophical terms in search of lip-holes within the impossible, the entire Eritrean society.

While stating the objective of writing this 17 pages article, he wrote, “This article will focus on the irreconcilable contradictions that coexist in the same mind that has debilitated Eritreans to a point of catatonic inaction in the face of existential calamity.”

Assumptions Put in the Analysis

YG assumed two major assumptions while developing his arguments.

First Assumption:

If Dejen was unable to question the nature of the system that had victimized him for four years, it goes without saying that he wouldn’t extend the benefit of doubt he denied to himself to other prisoners.

Second Assumption:

For Dejen to believe the system was incapable of deliberately doing what it did to him and others like him for years, he must have believed that this organization was not doing anything like that not only in independent Eritrea but also in ghedli era.

These two are the basic assumptions that YG developed while writing this article. Let’s define first what assumption is before delving further. According to Oxford online dictionary, assumption is defined as, “A thing that is accepted as true or as certain to happen, without proof.” Taking this definition into account, YG developed not only one but two assumptions before he starts diagnosing Dejen’s mindset. He did not come with open mind, he accepted what it is as true and these things are of his own inception. All what Dejen will say is scrutinized and filtered through these two assumptions. YG considered that Dejen is unable to question the nature of the system and remain confined all what Dejen faced is of his own personal paradox and has no linkage or similarity to others. And second worse assumption is that Dejen was expected to believe that all the wrong doings that is believed not into the knowledge of Dejen has to be revisited and question the system.

I do not know if a genuine mind can assume like this to see beyond his nose. YG is clearly showed as his lone planet of thinking, a planet that no Eritrean lived ever, a planet that is a heavenly place of political incommunicado. If not, such assumptions are fatal errors and leads to lethal flaws (to use YG’s words). YG assumed Dejen as non-knowledgeable, innocent, and unaware.

YG’s Chosen Writer, “Franz Kafka”

Most of us may wonder about this writer though Saay7 (Saleh Younis) as he said once quoted this man’s say in a news paper he used to publish in the early 1990s and of course some more of you might have come across Franz Kafka’s works. Honestly, I am not only new to this man but I am deeply astonished on how much YG go through in search of like minded writers to get inspired and enforce his works. Without forgetting his philosophical academic background, YG looks a deep thinker and applies in his works the principle of philosophical fallacy. Such men are best feeders of his argumentative base as they fulfill the myths required to be invented.

Born on July 3, 1883, in Prague, capital of what is now the Czech Republic, writer Franz Kafka grew up in a middle-class Jewish family. After studying law at the University of Prague, he worked in insurance and wrote in the evenings. In 1923, he moved to Berlin to focus on writing, but died of tuberculosis on June 03, 1924.

Most of his works are filled with the themes and archetypes of alienation, physical and psychological brutality, parent–child conflict, characters on a terrifying quest, labyrinths of bureaucracy, and mystical transformations. It is generally agreed that Kafka suffered from clinical depression and social anxiety throughout his entire life. He also suffered from migraines, insomnia, constipation, boils, and other ailments, all usually brought on by excessive stresses and strains. He attempted to counteract all of this by a regimen of naturopathic treatments, such as a vegetarian diet.

About Franz Kafka’s personality, Wikipedia recorded as, “Kafka feared that people would find him mentally and physically repulsive. However, those who met him perceived him to possess a quiet and cool demeanor, obvious intelligence, and a dry sense of humour; they also found him boyishly handsome, although of austere appearance.” I do not know YG personally, but his personality between lines of his voluminous articles he wrote so far smells exactly a copy of his chosen writer.

Characterization: “Kafkaesque”

While describing what happened to Dejen during his prison days and the naivety of expectations developed by the prisoner was characterized as that of Kafkaesque. YG wrote;

“…the most Kafkaesque picture in this regard was when he rose up every morning, gathered all his belongings, and waited by the door to be let out for months straight. It required an enormous amount of good will towards Shaebia for someone to stay naïve for so long.”

What is Kafkaesque?

This is the basic question that needs to be answered in order to understand YG’s mindset at that particular time of writing this article. According to the given definition, “Kafkaesque is marked by a senseless, disorienting, often menacing complexity, Kafkaesquebureaucracies” And is of, pertaining to, characteristic of, or resembling the literary work of Franz Kafka: the Kafkaesque terror of the endless interrogations. (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/kafkaesque)

It can also describe an intentional distortion of reality by powerful but anonymous bureaucrats. “Lack of evidence is treated as a pesky inconvenience, to be circumvented by such Kafkaesque means as depositing unproven allegations into sealed files …” Another definition would be an existentialist state of ever-elusive freedom while existing under unmitigatable control.

The adjective refers to anything suggestive of Kafka, especially his nightmarish type of narration, in which characters lack a clear course of action, the ability to see beyond immediate events, and the possibility of escape. The term’s meaning has transcended the literary realm to apply to real-life occurences and situations that are incomprehensibly complex, bizzare, or illogical.

This definition leads us to another level of search, the Kafkaesque bureaucracies. So far from the Definition we have at hand, what we can lear is that YG’s analysis is with a preconceived mindset. YG was not naïve enough to take notes on what it has being said but what implication is behind. All the 7 volumes of interview available at assenna.com were carefully restated in the way YG values can be imprinted in to the new hero.

To come back, Kafkaesque bureaucracy is a Weberian dimensions of bureaucracy − most notably coordinated and specialized organization and training − are predominant in public institutions; private sector establishments, in contrast, witness significantly more particularism as well as uncertainty and fear as core organizing principles. Most notable characters are uncertainty and fear which typical flooding YG’s mind.

Further search of Kafkaesque’s character, what the writer put is,

“…Whenever Dejen demands justice, insisting that at least he should be told what he was accused of, as he kept languishing in his cell, the kind of response that he used to get was, “Aren’t you under the protection of government?”; “What are you afraid of?”; “Why are you so impatient?”(Interview, Part 2) It gets downright bizarre when the interrogator proposes that they should work like “brothers” (kemahwat)….´

What YG is trying to tell us is that Dejen should have just kept quite in his room as there is no hope at all from the oppressors. What is telling us is that the interrogator should have given any kind word to Dejen when it is known that whatever said was not what it means. No hope and hence no need to watch the gate of release that one day could let Dejen pass through. Not only this, the interrogator was stupid enough to be at even in their words that was emitting.

Even non-believers always hope for good. Hope is feed of the soul. Hope is everything in time of disperses, when everything looks black, it is only hope that tells us there is light. Dejen, he himself said this well. He was looking for two gates at the same time; the main door that they can allow him to leave safely and a window that he can escape. These two kept him alive for 15 years. He never lost hope. He was searching. Though I will come later, the reason why Dejen went on writing hundreds even thousands of letters was because of Hope. But, here YG is telling us that this was “nonsense, a kafkaesquian. He is telling us that no good words should come out from interrogators; he is telling us that they must be cruel as they are even in their words.

There is no doubt that YG will be remembered as one who lost hope on Gedli and tegadalay and as a result betrayed his home country, not only betrayal but wants to see this country to be part of Ethiopia. What shame characterization is this? Does YG want other Eritreans to follow the same course: to deny, being hopeless; no kindness is needed even when there is no. This is not humane. YG is a loner, a man with no hope, no future. YG as I said frequently, he is a man of “Dead Soul.”

Parables Chosen

According to the online reference I use frequently, the Wikipedia, a parable is illustrated as a succinct, didactic story, in prose or verse, which illustrates one or more instructive lessons or principles. It is a short tale that illustrates a universal truth; it is a simple narrative. It sketches a setting, describes an action, and shows the results.

A parable often involves a character who faces a moral dilemma or one who makes a bad decision and then suffers the unintended consequences. Although the meaning of a parable is often not explicitly stated, it is not intended to be hidden or secret but, on the contrary, quite straightforward and obvious.

The defining characteristic of the parable is the presence of a subtext suggesting how a person should behave or what he should believe. Aside from providing guidance and suggestions for proper conduct in one’s life, parables frequently use metaphorical language which allows people to more easily discuss difficult or complex ideas. Parables express an abstract argument by means of using a concrete narrative which is easily understood.

Having such broad perspective on what a parable is, YG’s love for parables is of no surprise then to support his argument. He got a character, Dejen, the hero, a man of hope and lucid narration. Through these narrations, YG did not hesitate to enter the fertile mind, the welcoming. I can say a virus. For Dejen, this virus is harmless. But being in Dejen’s mind, it can be transmitted to others. I hope how mosquito transmits virus to people. The virus is harmless to the mosquito. But once the mosquito goes out in search of food, it bites health people. The thing is the virus capable enough to be transmitted through the injector. YG has being a virus to Eritrea and Eritrean history as well as identity. He searched so many ways as an effective mechanism to be transmitted in to the whole society. He already infected some but not as much effective as he thought. Then, Dejen, the hero came. YG then camouflaged and has tried to settle in Dejen’s mindset so that other innocent and empty headed people can be infected. And those infected people can probably be the nursery ground for further multiplication.

The easiest way to do is then to create or tell parables to the expected audiences. So did YG. To enrich his argument then, he brought two parables; of course both are written by Franz Kafka, the chosen scholar: “A message from the Emperor” and “Before the Law.” I will put these two parables as they are so that you can understand their message directly. The interpretation is widely covered and can be found on internet. Here, I will just put them as they are.

1. A Message from the Emperor

This parable was published in 1925 by Franza Kafka in a novel called “The Trial” after Kafka’s death. It has being also published in his life time first in the New Year’s edition (1915) of the independent Jewish weekly Selbstwehr, then in 1919 as part of the collection Ein Landarzt (A Country Doctor). The Trial, however, was not published until 1925, after Kafka’s death.

The emperor—it is said—sent to you, the one apart, the wretched subject, the tiny shadow that fled far, far from the imperial sun, precisely to you he sent a message from his deathbed. He bade the messenger kneel by his bed, and whispered the message in his ear. So greatly did he cherish it that he had him repeat it into his ear. With a nod of his head he confirmed the accuracy of the messenger’s words. And before the entire spectatorship of his death—all obstructing walls have been torn down and the great figures of the empire stand in a ring upon the broad, soaring exterior stairways—before all these he dispatched the messenger. The messenger set out at once; a strong, an indefatigable man; thrusting forward now this arm, now the other, he cleared a path though the crowd; every time he meets resistance he points to his breast, which bears the sign of the sun; and he moves forward easily, like no other. But the crowds are so vast; their dwellings know no bounds. If open country stretched before him, how he would fly, and indeed you might soon hear the magnificent knocking of his fists on your door. But instead, how uselessly he toils; he is still forcing his way through the chambers of the innermost palace; never will he overcome them; and were he to succeed at this, nothing would be gained: he would have to fight his way down the steps; and were he to succeed at this, nothing would be gained: he would have to cross the courtyard and, after the courtyard, the second enclosing outer palace, and again stairways and courtyards, and again a palace, and so on through thousands of years; and if he were to burst out at last through the outermost gate—but it can never, never happen—before him still lies the royal capital, the middle of the world, piled high in its sediment. Nobody reaches through here, least of all with a message from one who is dead. You, however, sit at your window and dream of the message when evening comes.

Theme

Apiece taken from Ben Marcus writing available on internet headed by “What It Really Means to Be ‘Kafkaesque’” describes the meaning of this parable’s message as such;

… The piece focuses on the impossibility of that message ever arriving. It turns out that the palace has ring upon ring upon ring of walls, successive outer palaces, and the messenger has to get through one and then the other, and then the other. If he could ever do that—which he never could, the narrator tells us the palace is too vast and impossible—then he’d only be at the center of the city, which is filled with people and garbage, all kinds of difficult obstacles. He will never get through.

The ending is haunting: You will never hear this message that’s intended for you alone. This breaks my heart. Something important has been communicated to you, but you’ll never hear it. And yet you’ll sit at your window and dream it to yourself—and so there’s immense yearning and hope coupled with the sense of impossibility and futility. These incompatible sensations all assail you at the same time. This is just perfection to me.(Source: http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2014/01/what-it-really-means-to-be-kafkaesque/283096/)

To be continued…..

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  • Daniel Teclegiorgis

    ኣቶ ተስፉ!

    ናይ ተስፋብርሃን እናማጎተናስ ኣቶ ተስፉ

    ትግርኛ ገዲፍኩም እንግሊዝ እንተትጽሕፉ

    ዘበለካ’ሲ፡ ንቕሓትካ ካብ ሰቡዶ፡ ንድሕሪት ተሪፉ

    ወይስ ንቕድሚት’ዩ ኣዝዩ ተወንጪፉ?

    ኣጆኻ ተስፉ ብትግርኛ ኣይትሕፈር! ንፖለቲካ ናይ ኤርትራ ንፍርቂ ዘመን ትንፋሱ ዓጽዩ ዒቕ! ዒቕ! ካብ ዘብሎ ዘሎ መንቀሊ-ሓሳባት ሓደ ናይ ትግራይ-ትግሪኚ ፍልስፍና ምዃኑ ካባይ መዘኻኸሪ ትደሊ ኣይመስለንን። ዝኾነ ኾይኑ ንሱ’ሞ ንግዜኡ ይጽናሓልና፡ እንዳ ዓዋተ ዘረባ’ብዚሕኩም ከይብሉና!!!

    ተባህለ ከምዝብሎ’ሲ ክቡር ተስፉ፡ ሓደ ሰብኣይ (ንግዜኡ ገብረ ንበሎ?) ፈታው ጠላዕ ኔሩ’ብልዎ። ኮይኑ ድማ ሰንበት
    ኣብ ዕለት ዕረፍቱ፡ ምስ ሰቡን ኣምላኹን ክንዲ ዝተሓሳሰብ፡ ኣንጊሁ ክጣላዕ ጀመረ’ሞ፡ ገንዘቡ ክሳብ ዝውድእ ተበሊዑ ዕብድብድ
    በለ።

    ሻቡ ቤተሰብ ብዘይውዓል ሕደር፡ ነገራት ብውዑዩ ንጽባሒቱ ኣንጊሆም ናብ ማ’ጨሎት ወሰድዎ። ኣብ’ቲ ማ’ጨሎት ዝጸንሑ ክልተ
    ዱልዱላት ሃለቃታት ድማ ብነዊሕ መጽዓን ከነው ኣቢሎም ጠማሚሮም፡ ብለይቲ ለማኒ ደገ ከይወጽአ፡ ኣሳሒታን ቁርን ቅዝሕዝሕ እናበለ
    እንከሎ፡ ናብ’ቲ ዓቢ ቀላይ ጦምቦ…………………ላሕ! ኣቢሎም ኣውጽእ ኣበልዎ። ሻቡ ገብረ ኣፉ ተኸፊቱሉ ወዮ ጠላዕ ዝበልዖ ሰብ ተዘኪሩዎ፡ ቲፋ…..ኖስ! በለ። በዓል ሃለቃ ድማ ክላ ወደይ ዘረባ ቀይር ቲ’ፋኖስ ዝበሃል ሰይጣን የለን እናበሉ ናብ’ዛ ዝሕልቲ ቀላዩ ጦምቦ…ላሕ ምባል ቀጸሉ!
    ሕጂ ድማ ተስፉ ዝበሃል ካብ ትግሪኛ እንግሊዝ ከንብብ ዝመርጽ ምህላዉ ዝገርም’ዩ ንምባል’የ። እዚኣ’ውን (Tesfu-syndrome) ክትበሃል’ያ ትመስል።

    ዝኾነ ኾይኑ ንገብረ’ሞ ምሕረት የውርደሉ። ንበዓል ተስፉ ድማ ምስ ሰቦም ዝመኽሩሉ ባህልን ቋንቋን ምእንቲ ክናፍቑ ጥጡሕ
    ባይታ’ፍጠረሎም።

    ክቡር ተስፉ እቲ ጸገም ኣብ ገዛይ ዘሎ’ዩ። ንሱ እናፈለጥኩ ግን ነታ ርኢቶኻ ከም መበገሲ ተጠቒመላ’ለኹ’ሞ ቅር ከይብለካ ሓደራ።

    ምስ ሰላምታ!

  • Daniel Teclegiorgis

    ክቡር ኣቶ ሃይለ!

    ኣቐዲመ እቲ ኣብ ዓዋተ ናበ’ምበብቲ ተቕርቦ ፈልፋሊ ጽሑፋትካ ኣነ ጥራይ ዘይኮነ’ሲ እቶም ሕዱራት ደቂ-ውሽጢ እንዳ ዓዋተ’ውን ደጋጊሞም ዝገልጽዎ ስለዝኾነ፡ ምግናን ኣይኮነን – ዝድነቕ’ዩ እንተበልኩኻ። ኣብ’ዛ ኣጋጣሚ ንኣይ ንዝሃብካኒ ምኽርን ኣድንቖትን ድማ ኣድንቖተይን ምስጋናይን ይብጻሕካ። ካብ’ቲዝተባህለ እዛ ትስዕብ ኣትሒዘ ርኢቶይ ክቕጽል፡

    “ከም’ቲ ልሙድን እዝኒ መብዛሕትና ዝብህጎን፡ ኢሳያስ ወይ ድማ ህግደፍ ጥራይ’ዮም ዝሕተቱሉ ከምዘይትብለኒ ኣይጠራጠርን።” ዝበልካያ እይተውሕጠትለይን። ድሕሪ ምባል ከም መነጸሪ ናይ ሓባር ዕላማ “እቲ ምንታይ’ሲ ካብኡ ሓሊፍካ ምኻድ ምስ ዓቕምታት ዘይዛነ ፍታሕ ዘባኹር ጉዳይ ምንዳይ ስለዝኾነ …” ወሲኽካላ።

    ሓቅኻ ኢኻ እቲ ቐንዲ ዕላማ ፍታሕ ዝርከበሉ ኣቋራጭ መንገዲ ወይ ሜላ ሃሰስ ንምባል ስለዝኾነ፡ መስተርሆት በየን ትበርቕ ዝብል ሕቶ ንኹልና ዘሻቕል’ዩ። ንሓዋሩ ኣቐዲሙ ዝረኸባ ንኹልና ክሕብር ተስፋ እናገበርኩ፡ እሞ በታ ዝበልካያ መንጽር ክልካዕ እንተኾይኑ መንገዲ መስተርሆት፡ ምጥርጣር ጽቡቕ እንድዩ ነዘን ዝስዕባ ነጥብታትስኪ (The power of results) ምስ’ቲ ዝበልካዮ ምንጪ ናይ’ዚ ኣብ ዝባ’ና ዝጽሒ ዘሎ ኣደራዕ ኣዘማዲኻ ከመይ ትሪአን?

    ሀ) ዳርጋ ንሰሙናት ዝኣክል ፕረሲደንት ኢሳያስ ሞይቱ ኣብ ዝበልናሉ እዋን ዝተራእየ ሃዋህው፡ ኣብ ክንዲ ናይ ለውጢ ተስፋ ዝቛምት፡ ብዝያዳ ኢሳያስ ብምማቱ ዝሻቐል ዝመስል ኩነታት’ዩ ሕምፍሽፍሽ ዝብል ዝመስል ዝነበረ ከም ትዕዝብተይ። እዚ ክብል እንከለኹ ግን ድሕሪ ኢሳያስ ኤርትራ እታይኮን ትመስልትኸውን ንምባል’ምበር፡ ንሱ እንተዘየለ ኤርትራ የላን ዝብል ቄናን ናይ በለጽን ራዕድን ፕሮፓጋንዳ ክብትኒ’ለ’ይኮንኩን።

    ለ) ኣራሚ ምንቅስቓስ፡ ስርሒት ፎርቶ ወይ ድማ ስርሒት ወዲ ዓሊ …. ኣብ መወዳእትኡ ንመንግስቲ ናይ ኣቤቱታ ቡስጣ ኣብጺሑ ….. ተመሊሱ፡ ዝመስል መደምደምታ ኔሩዎ’ዩ ዝተባህለ ጌጋ’ኽለኣለይ። ተስፋ’ገብር ንትዕዝብተይ ክመስል ትዕዝብትኻ።
    ብፍላይ’ታ “..ምስ ዓቕምኻ ዘይዛነ ፍታሕ ዘባኹር ጉዳይ ምንዳይ ስለዝኾነ” ትብል ገላጺት ዓንቀጽ ግን፡ ከም ርኢቶይ፡
    ገድሊ ንሰባት ጥራይ ዘይኮነ ንሓስባት’ውን ከደስክል ፍርቂ
    ዘመን ከምዝበልዐ ተብርህ’ያ ትመስል። ከም መወዳኣታ ናይ’ዚ ምድስካል ናይ ሓሳባት ገድሊ ተዓዊቱ ከብቅዕ፡ ኣብ’ዛ ኣብ ዝወዓለቶ
    ዘይትሓድር ዓለም ዕዳጋ እነሆ ኣብ እርጋኑ መዓልቦ ተደናጊሩ፡ ….

    ሀ) ኣብ ውሽጢ ኤርትራ ብህግደፍዶ ብኢሳያስ ክምኽነየሉ ዝፍተን……………….

    ለ) ኣብ ወጻኢ ድማ፡ እናረኣየ እናሰምዐ መጥባሕቲ በደዊንን መልኣከ ሞት ውቅያኖሳትን ዘይፈርሕ፡ ተስፋ-ቁርጸት ዝተቖጻጸሮ ኣተኣላልያ መጻኢ ዕድል።

    ሐ) ንሱ ከይኣክል ድማ ህላወ ናይ’ዘን ከመ’ዓልካ’ኳ ዘይጻገባ ብ30 ዝፍቀዳ ተቓወምቲ ውድባትን፡ ሓበሬታ ዝጥርራ ብ30
    ዝፍቀዳ ናይ ተቓወምቲ መርበብ ሓበሬታ (ኢንተርነት) ዝምስክሮ ኩናታት ኣብ ገድሊ ክሳብ ክንደይ ዝኣክል ሓሳባት ናይ ምድስካል ባህሊ
    ከምዝጸንሐ ዘነጽር ይመስለኒ።

    ስለ’ዚ ክሳብ መዓስ’ዩ “..ምስ ዓቕምኻ ዘይዛነ ፍታሕ ዘባኹር ጉዳይ ምንዳይ ስለዝኾነ” ክበሃል? እታ መዐቀኒት ናይ ዓቕሚኸ ካብ ምዝርጋሕ ሓበሬታ ሓሊፋ እንታይ ዓይነት’ያ? … ንኣይ ከምዝመስለኒ እቲ ጸገም ብሓፈሽኡ ኣተሓሳስባ ናይ ዘይምቕያር ብድሆ’ዩ ዝመስል። ኢሳያሲዝም ይኹን ህግድፊዝም ካብ ኣብ ዝባን ታንክን መዳፍዕን ዘሎ ቀላጽሞም ንላዕሊ ኣበ’ተሓሳስባና’ዮም ሰሪሩ ዘሎ ጎንፊ’ዩ ዕድመ ሂቡዎም ዘሎ።

    ዘረባ ከየ’ንውሓልካ’ምበር፡

    ኣቦይ ሃይለ ፈታው ዱቋ ነበሩ ይበሃል። ሓደ እዋን ግን ዘንጊዖም’ዮም’መስለኒ፡ እኹል ኣዝመራ ኣይሓፈሱን። ይኹን ደኣ’ምበር
    ኣመሎም ኣይገደፉን። ስለ’ዚ ክብርቲ በዓልቲ ቤቶም እዋን ምእንቲ ከሳግረን ማይ ሩባ ኣዛይድ ኣቢለን ክጸምቋ ጀመራ። ሻቡ ኣቦይ
    ሃይለ ኣይተሓጎሱን። ብኣንጻሩ’ኳ ደኣ ከንጸርጽሩ ጀመሩ’ሞ፡ ዝመጽእ ክረምቲ ኣሚኖም ንሶም ክጸግኡ ክብርቲ በዓልቲ ክጉልጉላ እንከለዋ፡

    “ሃይሉዋ ሃይሉዋ’የ ሕረሰለይ ዳጉሳ ከስትየካ ዱቋ’የ!” ብምባል ከም ደርፊ ኣምሲለን መልእኽተን ኣመሓላለፋ።

    ምስ ሰላምታ!

  • Eyob Medhane

    Gash Saleh,

    I had to come here, because the conversation is way to far down. 🙂

    You don’t have to open old boxes. It’s all here in this link from the US congress library

    http://blogs.loc.gov/law/2012/02/abolition-of-slavery-in-ethiopia/

    According to this document, Emperor Menelik issued an order to ban slavery, which was proved difficult, because of lack of institutions and modern means to implement it. However, after Emperess Zewditu took over the crown and Ras Teferi Mekonnen became a regent, Ethiopia applied to become a member of the League of Nations. At the time the main objection to exclude Ethiopia from that organization was the charge of some European governments bitter accusation against Ethiopia that it practiced slavery. Ras Teferi Mekonen’s representative/lawyer a French man called Lavourn was able to present an edict witch emperor Menelik has issued to the chamber of the League of Nations and won the argument that Ethiopia deserved to be a member. What you are talking about was a reformation of that edict by Emperor Haileselassie after WWII, when Ethiopia signed a UN charter to become one of the founding members of the UN.

    Now about Menelik’s letter to Harari’s

    1) Emperor Menelik HAS NOT colonized Harar. You always conveniently forget that the Harari culture and language is a proud branch of Habesha. Yes. Gash Saleh for your disappointment Harari’s are ABYSSINIANS.

    2) I have read the letter you are talking about. It is in the Paulos Ngongno’s book. He compiled a lot of his letters. Have you seen the one that I showed to Sal, where he said he would chose his son to be with Afar Muslims than his teacher and wanted to make sure his Muslim employee won’t miss Solat? How about that for being tolerant, Gash Saleh? How about that?

    • Saleh Johar

      Eyob, sorry to deflate that also 🙂
      But wasn’t his grandson the son of a father who was converted? To him playing with Muslims or Christians would be playing with his cousins… but tolerant, okay, there were a few uncle Toms who allowed their properties to wear new clothes on Christmas, they were very tolerant 🙂

  • T. Kifle

    Hi Emaa,

    It’s a humour. I already put a smile against it.

  • saay7

    Eyobai:

    I don’t think you are going to make it to Mahmuday’s peace club. There is a lot of anger in you to the point of wishing a dead person to rot in hell. For a man who takes great pride in his Habesha culture, that is on the top-3 list of taboos: speaking ill of the dead. In your case, you have gone full retard and you are wishing him ill. Hsebelu.

    Your second para is compelling and it is a good argument, although I don’t know whose points you are rebutting. Certainly not mine because I hold it as an article of faith that nobody should be forced to adopt an identity and everyone should get to choose one or as many as one likes.

    The point I was making has to be seen within its context. We were discussing with Desta* the book “The Eritrean Case” (Ye Ertra Guday) and I spoke of a discussion between the Ethiopian delegation to the UN and the Eritrean delegation, then represented by Ibrahim Sultan. From the exchange, it is very clear that the Ethiopian delegation (well-suited, well-schooled) thought of Ibrahim Sultan (modestly dressed and wearing a head-dress, no less) as a simpleton. And in the battle of wits, as they were doing what Ethiopian leaders were fond of doing for decades (that Eritrea can never be a viable state) they asked who would govern such a state as it has no educated population. His retort was that all the Ethiopians of Eritrean origin, including his interrogators, would and would flock to the fatherland. It was a great comeback because it was ad-libbed. I like it so much I have used it in my previous jousts with you, not the least reason being that the family of one of the mentioned Ethiopians of Eritrean origin had a beautiful house in my neighborhood in Asmara. You didn’t enjoy it because…. refer to asterisk below.

    saay

    * Desta means happiness and you can see the joy in Desta’s posting. The most famous Eyob is the biblical Job, famous for his patience….and the Awatista Eyob is very infamous for his occasional bursts of temper, decidedly impatient:) The Italians were not our “masters.” They were our colonizers. Your choice of word was designed to inflict the most pain but (now I am doing the Jay-Z motion of flicking my hand over my shoulders): considered it brushed off like lint of our Italian suits.

    • Eyob Medhane

      Sal,

      Blood sugar is in the right place..phew! I can be calm now…

      1) Gebretinsae pastry….Sorry. No respect for him or for his soul. I regret all the money I spent as a poor student of AAU. In case you haven’t noticed, in habesha culture, when we talk about his kind of people, we start by saying “…nebsun aymareuna….” 🙂

      2) Eritrean origin Ethiopians, as you call them, especially those, who not only chose to be Ethiopians, but fought for Ethiopians, their Ethiopian identity is so sacred that can not be claimed by you by Ato Ibrahim Sultan or anyone, outside Ethiopians for that matter. They are ours and ours only. Period. In fact, I would consider Ato Ibrahim Sultan’s “come back”, as arrogance to believe that someone takes off their dearly held belief and identity and run to a place, that he thought should be independent at the time. What made him so sure that, if he declared independence of Eritrea at the time Ephrem Tewoldemedhin would pack up and move to Asmara? Was he a mind reader? To assume about someone is not being witty or a shooting a good retort. It’s just arrogance…

      3) Your “claim” that one of the “Eritrean origin of Ethiopians” had a beautiful house in you neighborhood, Sal for all I know, (In fact I have been suspecting that for a long time) that you are a closet Amhara or Sebat bet Gurage… 🙂 I can bet that some of your relatives you may not aware may have been in the ‘Maheber fikri hager’…. 🙂

      • saay7

        Eyobai:

        1. am going to get on my Ethiopian life-line and ask T.Kifle is there is an equivalent Tigrinya expression in Tigray to the shocking Amharic expression that you used when speaking of the dead….

        2. What is today: “Leave Your Sense Of Humor At Home” day? You need to refresh your memory and read the book: Ibrahim Sultans comeback was treated as a funny line by the Ethiopian delegation who laughed about it. Haha, let it go. Nothing to chew on that bone.

        3) Not only did I have family members in Mahber Fiqre Hager, they are immortalized in Saleh Gadi Johars “Of Kings And Bandits.” I will find you the house I mentioned on Flickr and upload it. It’s definitely in Asmara, not Addis, because there is no mud and there is no appeal to not urinate on the wall. Zing!

        Saay

        • Eyob Medhane

          Sal,

          Ok..funny is back… 🙂

          Just to make you a bit smile and provoke your thought, I am going to share to you from a book that I quoted from to Gash Saleh the other day. Paulos Ngnogno’s Atse Minilik…

          These two are Emperor Menelik’s letters that were written to two of his employees. The way he expressed himself was pretty funny. Compare that with today’s diplomatic words laden communiques and ‘official letters’….

          ይድረስ ከማውላ

          ገነት መውረድዎን ሳላውቅ የስራውን ነገር ሳልመካከር ሄዱብኝ በለህ ላክብኝ:: አንተ መቸም ጌትነት በዝቶብሃልና ተጋድመህ ትውላልህ:: በየት ታገኘኝ? እኔማ የዚሁኑ የስራውን ነገር ብዬ ብዙ ቆይቼ ከረፋዱ ነው የተነሳሁት:: አሁንም በጠዋት እየተነሳህ ስራውን አሰራ:: ተጋድመህ አትዋል:: አምስቴ ስግደቱንም ስራውን እስክትጨርስ ወይ መሃመድን ወይ ኡመርን እባካችሁ እባካችሁ እናንተ ቢሆን አራቱን አለያ ሶስቱን ሰገዱልኝ እኔ የንጉስ ስራ አለብኝ በላቸው:: እምቢ አይሉህም:: እሱ አትስገድ ብሎኛል ብለህ ደሞ ከግዜር እንዳታጣላኝ::እንጨት ሰራተኛ ላልከው አሁን ሱልጣን ሌላ ስራ አለው:: መሃመድና ኡመር ይስሩልህ:: እሱ ብልዋል ካልካቸው ምንም አይሉም::

          (The funny thing is Mohammed and Oumer were already assigned to share Solat with him already on top of helping him with his wood work. 🙂 )

          Here is another one,

          ይድረስ ከሊቀ መኩዋስ ያሬድ

          ያንተ ነገር ሰው ነህ ብዪ ሾሜ ሸልሜ ባከብረህ በየሰው ቤት እየሄድክ እየሰከረክ ሰው መስደብ ማዋረድ ሆነ ሰራህ:: ምነው ምነው አንተ?! እንዳንተ ያለ ሽማግሌ ሰው ሰው ይመክር ነበር እንጂ ይሄ በውነቱ ያንተ ስራ አይደለም:: አደራ እንግዲህ ማሪያምን ሁለተኛ ሰከረ ሰው ሰደበ ያሉኝ እንደሆነ ውርድ ከራሴ:: ኢያሱን ወዳንተ ትንሽ መጽሃፍ ይማር እንደሆነ ብየ ብለከው ውሎው ካዳሎቹ ጋ ግመል ላይ መውጣት ነው አሉ:: ተወው:: እነሱ ተተጎዳኙት አይንኩት እንጂ ምናለ? ወረቱ እስትያልፍ ነው:: እንድውም ካንተ ውሎ ስካር ከሚማር ከእስላሞቹ ጋር ይሻለዋል::

          (This is how much tolerant Emperor Minilik was. He prefers his grandson to hangout with Afar muslims than his friend and the young Iasu’s teacher….) 🙂

          • saay7

            Selamat Eyob:

            I had shared a couple of Semna-Worq when you were awol, related to your hero Tiqur Sew.

            Not sure that “I would rather have my son spend time with Muslims than a drunk friend” counts for Great Moments In Diversity but not surprising for a man who passed an edit that it is wrong to commit murder “Galam bihon.”

            Now, a couple of follow-ups in the interest of full disclosure.

            1. Yesterday, I promised you a pic of the house in Asmara of the family of Blatengeta Ephrem Teweldemedhin, Ethiopia’s foreign minister in 1941-42. When I was a kid, we were told it belongs to a very important man. The attached is taken from a poor angle, it shows the “back years” not the beautiful villa. It is in the Geza Banda Tilyan neighborhood, right over the open space when Asmarinos learned how to drive in the tiny Fiat 600s provided by the Auto Scola.

            The Derg confiscated the villa…then the PFDJ continued the tradition of thievery.

            2. A couple of months ago, I shared with you images of Massawa and you were pleasantly surprised to see that the statue to Dogali is still standing. I have been corrected. Here’s the actual story. The Italians built a statue to Dogali to honor their fallen. When Mengistu came, he also built a statue to Dogali to honor the fallen Ethiopians. There were two statues. When the EPLF took power and they were in the blow-up statues mode, guess which one of the two statues they blew up. They blew up the statue that Mengistu built to honor Ethiopians. This will probably result in a 7-part article by YG and, for once, I wouldn’t have a rebuttal. Maybe Mahmud Saleh has the answer. Or maybe the information I was given is wrong although the source is unimpeachable.

            Anyway, here’s the pic I promised:

            saay

          • saay7

            Pic of the house of Blatengeta Ephrem Teweldemedhen (villa with palm tree not visible.)

            image courtesy of: Asmara Architecture (facebook page)

            saay

          • Eyob Medhane

            Sal,

            It is really pathetic part of marxism is confiscating private property and ruin it. As Derg and Shabia are ideologically allied, I am sure they have taken many beautiful places in Asmara and ruined it. In Addis there is this beautiful work of architecture in a place called shegole (on the way right before entering Gulele) It is a place belonged to a very important cleric named Sheik Hojale. Derg took it and ruined the heck out of it, used it as a kebele office then abandoned it…This beautiful house and the entire 21 acre compound was just a sort of landfill for a long time, until the model Liya Kebede and her husband bought it and start to renovating the main house and the other small houses in the compound. ,

            Look at this…

            Now about emeye Menelik not being tolerant, didn’t you read that he was assigning solat so the working man wouldn’t miss his religious duties? Come on, Sal. Be fair for Tiqur sew…..(I know you won’t be. .. 🙂 )

          • saay7

            Eyob:

            You know whenever Abesha/Habesha see a beautiful black woman say “Habesha tmesl/abesha tmeslalech?” I wonder if Americans look at Liya Kebede and say “holly Molly, she sure as heck don’t look African!” :))

            Saay

          • Eyob Medhane

            Sal,

            ha ha…well many Americans actually recognize the beauty of Ethiopian women. Black American women are not very happy about that. The famous fashion critic H. Fields Grenée started a storm by raising a REALLY bogus concern with her madamnoire article, which the story was picked up by almost all three letter propaganda outlets. Here is her “concern”. Are Ethiopian Models Over Represented in the Modeling Industry.

            http://madamenoire.com/135101/brown-face-in-a-white-industry-the-cruel-hoax-behind-the-upsurge-in-ethiopian-models/

            Since you are not into much of a ‘fashion magazine’ reader, I will give you some quote out of it.

            “…“With the recent interest in Ethiopian women, or women from the “horn” more broadly, it is amazing how almost blatantly Social Darwinist ideas get espoused,” noted Professor Davarian L. Baldwin, a Paul E. Raether Distinguished Professor of American Studies at Trinity College, who focuses on African Diaspora issues.

            “So in the case of Ethiopian women, I hear talk about an “Ethiopian” skin tone, facial features, and bone structure. I hear so much about the beautiful skin of Ethiopians, not in terms of blemishes or smoothness but because it is seen as the perfect balance between darker sub-Saharan Africans and whiter Caucasians,” said Baldwin. “I also hear they are the perfect beauty blend because of their brown skin and yet long (more Caucasian-looking) hair.”

            Hummmmmm…cat fight…Arrrrrrrrrrrr 🙂

            But I want you to read this. It’s very short and a bit funny. It’s what our African brothers think of our women….Please read it. This is one of those things I demand you do… 🙂

            http://www.observer.ug/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=7682:wang-a-normal-man-shouldnt-live-in-ethiopia&catid=46:wang&Itemid=78

            Even the title is funny. It says “A ‘normal’ man shouldn’t live in Ethiopia”..

          • saay7

            Eyobai:

            Having boycotted the 3-letter TV stations, I now use a short-cut to deal with news magazines it hadn’t heard of whenever I am told/asked/demanded to read an article.

            I go straight to the comments section to see a representative sampling of the readers opinions.

            It’s like checking out Yelp before you head to the restaurant* Ah, the power of Web 2.0!

            In this particular case, the article u recommended I read has gotten comments like “the most stupid thing I ever read.” I will pass 🙂

            Saay

            * some of the most entertaining, if vicious, writing ever is on customer-reviews of product or service. SGJ, does Awate.com have a Yelp page?

          • Eyob Medhane

            Sal,

            Sorry. You deserve punishment for not reading my recommendation. Remember. Today is Saturday. Our traditional ‘song exchange’ day. I REALLY demand you hear this song. Great arrangement, lots of auto tune. If you hear this guy singing live, though you’ll never hear any music for the next ten years. Now the punishment? The content of the song……Let me know, when you’re with your ‘time out’…. 🙂

            http://www.habeshazefen.com/music/listenmusic/63/temesgen-gebregziabher—ethiopia———new-ethiopian-music-2013.html

          • saay7

            Eyob:

            apple’na Flash aysmamum. So I can’t play it on the iPhone. May try it on desktop if I remember. Man U are striking out today.

            Hey, just thought of something. In my next saleda-like satire magazine, my first headline will be “Liya Kebede adopts orphans from LA, Angelina Jolie’s hometown.” Let’s crowd-source the article. You write the first paragraph now, I will write the second, etc.

            saay

          • Eyob Medhane

            Sal,

            Oh no no no no..You ain’t gonna get off your punishment that easy. Here is the youtube version of it….Mostly, actually, I wanted you to comment on the arrangement. It’s Abegaz Shiota’s work. Except the kids’ annoying auto tune, it has been done well.

            About the article, are you trying to make me collide with Ethiopia’s Oprah? Tsk tsk tsk….

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idOaX0BW-dA

          • saay7

            Eyob:

            Meh. It’s the Ethiopia-as-mother-figure that I have heard only 2014 times, be Ferenj aqotater:)

            So what’s up with the way they spell Ethiopia as Aethiopia in the video? A for Abyssinia? Or has the empire swallowed up a state whose name begins with the letter A?

            saay

          • Eyob Medhane

            Sal,

            You know damn well that in Greek Ethiopia is spelled and PRONOUNCED as AEthiopia. The map is an old Greek map that included the Herodotus writings and fables about the far away land called Aethiopus. It is a very famous map…. Unless you wanted to snub the great Herodotus, you need to bow before that map… 🙂

          • saay7

            Eyobai:

            Ah, so.

            Well, thank you for the “treat.” Since you can’t get enough “Emama Ethiopia” songs, I might as well tell you my favorite of that genre (I had an OCD with it for 3 months): It’s GiGi’s “One Ethiopia.” I love her voice and how it breaks at the railing moments, which begins at the 1:50 minute mark which may or may not have anything to do with the politics of Harbeyna Weyanai:

            ዘመን አመጣሽ የዘር በሽታ
            መድሃኒት አለው የማታ ማታ
            ሃገር በወገን እንዴት ይረታ
            ፍቅር በነገር እንዴት ይፈታ
            ዘር ሳይለያየን ወይ ሃይማኖት
            ከጥንት በፍቅር የኖርንባት
            እናት ኢትዮጲያ ውዴ ውዲታ
            በጎጆ አያልቅም ሙሽርነታ

            If you are into the One Ethiopia legend, she even has a more ambitious map than your AEthiopia; hers is EEthiopia with Qey Bahrashn:)

            saay

            http://youtu.be/1ygfbRg8OH0

          • Eyob Medhane

            Sal,

            Yeah Gigi had a good voice and she is very talented, until she is embroiled with G7 politics. She got mad at the Ethiopian government, since her father was arrested for tax evasion and his popular Hotel in Bahir Dar went bankrupt. Now it’s personal with her and ‘harbenya woyanai’, Sal. 🙂 Thank you for the song. It was lovely…

          • dine

            when she and her husband visited ethiopia last year they were greeted at the air port by the gov. representative,

          • Saleh Johar

            Eyob, Herodotus’ Aethopia extended from the sea to the sea, all of present day Africa. You are right, the Arabs also knew a large expanse of today’s Horn of Africa as Habbesha, it was corrupted to Abyssinia just like they corrupted the Arabic name of Ibn Sina to Avicenna. Whatw as wrong with them? They couldn’t read Geez alphabets? But then they claim the alphabets are theirs, mnabatachew 🙂

            But honestly Eyob, when was the first time the name Ethiopia was adopted by the Habesha kings? I don’t think it was during the time of Herodotus 🙂

          • Saleh Johar

            Saay, this is scary. It means you forgot to pay the rent for our Beverly hills offices…isn’t it your responsibility?

          • Saleh Johar

            Eyob, I trying to locate an Amharic book that I bought in the Mercato stalls I mentioned before. It hasa letter Tqur sew wrote to his handlers when he colonized Harrer… I am sure it will give you an insight to his thinking when you read it–provided you think outside the Minleik Gmb. Don’t tell me it doesn’t exist, I know where it exists… just pray I locate the book.

  • Eyob Medhane

    AT,

    Is it you or disqus that threw out my comment (response to Sal and Desta)? Disappointed… 🙁

    • Saleh Johar

      Don’t you get tired of this Eyob 🙂
      Do you think awate.com owns disqus? C’mon, you can do better. The computer challenged can say that, but you?

      • Eyob Medhane

        Gash Saleh,

        I think disqus has it in for me. These ‘genociders’, I am gonna get them… 🙂

  • Mahmud Saleh

    Dear Awatistas and particularly the honorable SJG, SAAY, T.Kifle,and Semere A

    I am not sure of the thread, it’s been a hectic day, but I read your comments;

    SJG; now that you have seen a relatively peaceful atmosphere between T.Kifle and Mahmuday, You want to create a wedge, No, way Ustaz Saleh. Remember you said so many times to let those organizations rest in peace, now you are exhuming skeletons and Semere’s heart is jumping to his throat, so let the man do a decent reportage, we’re waiting for him. Bad news Ustaz Gadi, I concur with T.Kifle on the official line regarding how both organizations handled it. (I don’t want to mention the names of the organizations, Aman Hidrat is my probation officer; and he’s keeping the record).

    SAAY and Sem A. Brother SAAY I am going to let Semere wed Andom do his writing, of course, there has already emerged a disagreement on the title, that’s a call for the editor-in-chief, SAAY, to interupt his popcorn.(I’m just wondering how both you and nitricc are getting along, No, kicking around?) And also Ustaz SAAY, I won’t bring that Rome ghetto stuff of Sem Andom till you run out of your popcorn.

    Sem A: You want to write a book entitle: “How the EPLF un emancipated women and un liberated the land and enslaved the population” , well there is SAAY waiting for you, who do you think is going to edit it? You SAAY more than anything is a wuXue Shaebia, he just doesn’t say it.
    Sorry guys, I could not get time to give you individual responses.

    Now, there you have it ( courtesy,nitricc).

    • Saleh Johar

      Semere Andom, see! Mahmoud says I concur with T.Kifle. What is wrong Mahmouday? Give me something new, even the cows of Gash know that.
      You are offering me Hadari injera, zAsswe at that? Be a good host 🙂

      • Mahmud Saleh

        Ahlan SJG;
        The problem is Abusalah that you have no witness; your witness, the Gash Barka cows, are now extinct, no Begayt wo saleh, AHa bediet bielewa. But back to the point, Sem A. hold on, no quick victory here. I said Jabhet AttaHrir ( because the English version is on hold for now) was right to claim it, but I was not sure on the policy it pursued on asserting its control over it, ShaEbiyet ( again, English version withheld) did not relinquish its claim but agreed to the line T.Kifle presented, that included also all border issues. Now, there you have it. I made it without mentioning any jailed name of the organizations. On a separate note, I convey my condolence to all affected families, and we just have to come together and send out hope to our youth. I dedicate yesterday’s poem “Trafya meOat’ for the victims. It’s on Jebena.

      • T. Kifle

        Selamat SGJ,

        Mahmuday cannot give you anything new. You can only anew your peeking window to objectively judge if your erstwhile front was as innocent as you want it appear. Semere A. is offering us his judgement not facts. “Jabhet AttaHrir” cling to Badme when it wanted antagonize TPLF then and EPLF seized the same opportune ploy to wage a deadly war in 1998. EPLF took a correct decision on territorial claims then but terribly failed after it became a government. This is one of their typical commonalities.

        • Mahmud Saleh

          The new thing I may add is this: EPLF was sure Badme was inside Eritrea based on colonial treaties; it did not want to waste resources on Badme when it was fighting a bigger enemy. That’s also what the international court ruled.

          • T. Kifle

            Mahmud,
            Can you prove that ELF didn’t have the information you claim the other party had?I think this point is preposterous and is a non-issue.

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Arkey T.Kifle
            You seem to be asking why ELF did not pursue the same policy EPLF pursued when both had the same information. Am I right? I will presume ” the other party” is meant EPLF. In that case, Gadi is the right person. I don’t have all the contingent factors that might have pushed the border issue to the forefront. It’s all about priorities. Why ELF made that their priority could only be answered by them.

          • Saleh Johar

            Mahmoud,
            There was a delay tactic used throughout the struggle era, by many organizations. Deceleration of intent was what was needed, but some do not want to commit to a principle, or an intention. They use the wildcard response, “Hzby daHar ywssno.” Anyone who says that should not be trusted–they act as if they have a mandate from anyone to be at the forefront to struggle. Then, what did the people decide on after independence? Didn’t every organization impose its will? So, what an organization believes before it get to power is important, I believe if the intentions were cleared during that time, that will would have been implemented and no one would object. Just as debate this issue, ask some Eritrean leaders about language issue, land issue, and system of governance, those who do not believe in any of that would use the wildcar response, the people (or the future govrnment) will decide on that. But what is your position as an a party? Emmmm. If intentions were cleared in the past, we wouldn’t have had the border war… but then I am not ruling out the behavior of our dictator. But basing your propaganda on a map that appeared on a currency is dumb. What is the scale on half an inch map anyway? Would that be accepted in any court of law? I wish the TP and EP listened then. But what is my theory worth? I know… history is written by the victorious already wrote history and they are showing us their worth. Is it still Friday? I have to sleep, I have to get up at 5. Good night.

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Ustaz Saleh,
            I think you went deeper, “the intention.” that’s something historians need to look at particularly with TPLF involvement in the Eritrean civil war, not that EPLF used it as a gift, but if there was a leniency or permissive attitude in letting it be administered by TPLF. Anyway, that I don’t know. we just don’t have enough information to establish EPLF”s intention was different than what’s publicly known, which is what I put in my previous reply. Sound sleep, if not already snoring.

          • T. Kifle

            Dear SGJ,

            No one said “Hzby daHar ywssno.”. Badme was under Ethiopian Administration. Both the Eritrean fronts claimed it was theirs. EPLF deferred the issues to such a time when Eritrea achieves independence and the installed government would negotiate with the other side and finalize the border demarcation. Buy ELF got ahead of itself and tried to take justice into their hands. declaring intent doesn’t include war. War is always a manifestation of invincibly and ELF was not immune to such deficiency. That’s why they made it an issue when all the legal provisions wouldn’t allow them fix such kind of problems. I have watched a video record of ELF’s 3rd congress on you-tube. Their evaluation of the “civil war” seems to me terrible and no wonder they failed to deliver. If any organized entity is not bold enough to probe deep into their own weaknesses no amount of excuses would save them from the ultimate demise.

          • Semere Andom

            Hi Mahmuday:
            I am slowly developing a soft spot for your, but you harden it by canonizing EPLF relinquishing of Badme to their partners in crime, TPLF. But I am hoping that my soft spot for you does not become as soft as what Sal has for Nitricc:-)
            Like the youth am embedded with you still are deluded in believing that EPLF liberated Eritrea by wantonly leaving proved Eritrean territories to their buddies. What vanguard organization leaves truly Eritrean land for Ethiopia, this shows that you guys, sorry “halo” but this proves that EPLF/PFDJ was one man owned and some of you played along some of you were duped and now is hard to admit.
            TK, well facts are hard to prove on this issue and you know it, I was not there but our arbitrator is common sense, logic and our honest attempt to find truth. No one, even Gadi who was in ELF and Emma is saying that ELF has always made right decisions, but when it came to Badme they did, but now two former allies, are concurring with each other just deny the deceased (ELF) a well-deserved credit on this issue.
            Both Mahmud and TK are telling us that EPLF prudently postponed the Badme issue to save resources? Especially TK you are making the same argument Sal made to me when we were debating the issue of accidental/deliberate school attack, how?
            I know Sal is busy writing a speech, but what does he think and Emma.

          • T. Kifle

            Semere A.

            Emma is bent on “the here and now syndrome.”: 🙂
            Sal is under warning he is least bothered to mediate a brawling ignited between “two front lovers” and you know his heart is closer to IA.

            Now to the main subject:-
            This issue should be seen within the context of the prevailing political situation of the time. The extinction of ELF is not unique. Many armed entities had ceased to exist or become irrelevant and more or less for the same reason. EPRP went down its grave on account of its own dead weight. EDU, TLF OLF ONLF and many others who tried armed engagement at various levels have succumbed to this same malaise: lack of coherent political programs and able leadership. EPLF and TPLF could be as bad as your sort of characterization but they knew well how to survive amid extreme adversities and they prevailed. Territorial claims obviously were ill-timed. A leadership that cannot address such trivial issues is short-sighted and doomed to fail.That’s what exactly happened your ELF.

          • saay7

            Selamat Sem Wad Andom:

            [Warning: the following post does not contain anything humorous and may accidentally swerve into religious themes and the city limits of Cliche-land. Discretion is advised.]

            The PFDJ is make creaky noises, like a bridge about to collapse. The warning signs are everywhere. Just this week alone, we had:

            1. The International Crisis Group wrote a gripping piece about the origins the human smuggling trade in Eritrea: how something that began with outsourcing border control to Rashaid Bedouin, people who would have no problem enforcing the shoot-to-kill policy (which the Agelglot conscripts and Yikeaalo had a problem enforcing on their own comrades) degenerated into a money-generating scam:

            http://www.crisisgroup.org/~/media/Files/africa/horn-of-africa/ethiopia-eritrea/b100-eritrea-ending-the-exodus.pdf

            2. Haile The Great’s updates on the perishing Eritreans, which is related to the exodus described by ICG;

            3. A soon to-be-published paper by Dr. Bereket Habteselassie based on his address in Pretoria about the decline-and-fall of PFDJ and the vacant space in the opposition;

            4. A soon-to-be published awate.com article on Eri-TV “hateta” on the US-Africa Summit.

            5. The PFDJ festivals (or what Ghezae Hagos calls PFDJ fundraising) in Toronto, Sweden and the hush-hush top secret one coming up in Washington DC and the Eritrean Youth opposition campaign to notify the State Department not to grant musicians like Wedi Tkul entry visas by providing their name and rank.

            In other words, this week was just another “normal” week in Eritrea. The Isaias Afwerki regime is falling and it will fall hard.

            Now, Sem, during Ghedli, the ELF and EPLF both had the Marxist-Leninist notion that national liberation movements should wage war not just against the main enemy (occupation) but also other enemies (oppression of women, for example.) This was the “drrb qalsi” notion. My view is that while Eritreans must wage a multiple-pronged assault on the Isaias Afwerki regime to ensure its defeat, they must also wage an intense campaign of self-discipline to ensure that its fall-out to Eritrean society is minimal. That justice does not mean mob justice or revenge.

            One of my favorite Hadiths (sayings) attributed to Prophet Muhammed is “Actions are judged by one’s intentions.” Innamal a’malu binniyat.I don’t want to give the impression that I discovered this: scholars who have compiled the sayings of the Prophet have summarized it with the quote above as the most important message the Prophet gave.

            In the secular world (penal code), while INTENT is important, OUTCOMES regardless of intent also demand accountability. (It is the difference between murder and manslaughter.)

            Now, where I am going with this (and why I have a soft spot for people like Nitricc): Do they wake up every morning and say how do I punish my people and make their life miserable? No. Is what they say, do have the effect of punishing our people and making their life miserable? Yes. Will those of us who are powerless now remember to make the distinction when we assume power? I am skeptical as “power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely.” This is why I keep saying “No Eritrean Left Behind.”

            saay

          • Semere Andom

            Hi Saleh: Now you know what is coming when I use your full name 🙂
            I am glad your wrote this comment, but when I wrote about your Nitricc soft spot, it was in a light hearted way and you did not have to put that warning:-)
            I know I made fun of your no Eritrean left behind but it was intended more as a tribute than to ridicule it
            Sem

        • Saleh Johar

          C’mon T.Kifle, this supposed to be a weekend type of duscussion. Take it easy, I never, never said anything about the, I mean THE, “erstwhile front” was innocent. Not even on a Friday night. So please throw that through my now widened window 🙂

          T. Kifle Arkey, my window is so wide even are nestling inside my bedroom. How wide do you want it to be! And when you and Mahmuday are invited, I will let you enter through that window, you will see how big it is. Cheers 🙂

      • Eyob Medhane

        Gash Saleh,

        You are unbelievable! You just don’t give the man a break do you? Yes, Lij Iasu’s father Ras Mikael Ali was a FORMER Muslim, who was converted willingly. What? You got a problem with that? 🙂 But that was not the issue on what is on that letter. Ras Mikael was an Amhara from Wello, but Menelik was advising in that letter his grandson to hangout with Afar’s, who were known at the time for their hostility for any outsiders. Yet, he trusted them with his only grandson, who was destined to inherit the crown. That is where his tolerance shine, Gash Saleh. He also encourages his employees to do Solat, no matter how busy they are. That is called ACCEPTANCE…….

        • Saleh Johar

          Eyob, relentless, huh?
          I know, Ras Ali willingly converted together with 50,000 in Wollo in one day, right? Whatever happened to the ignorant lot who were not willing?

          Lij Eyassu was honorably discharged from the palace because he refused to play with his cousins though his grandpa insisted he does. Okay, that is a good bedtime story, I might consider developing it. I just need a skilled artists to draw the sketches that go with it 🙂

          Seriously Eyob, you want to feel good about your kings and be proud of them, find them before the fake “Solomonites” regained the crown. Seek your pride in the likes of Ezana…the original Axumite kings, not the usurpers or those who followed them. Of course you can be very proud of the Kings of Lasta, the dynasty that can lend you some pride.

  • Kokhob Selam

    I love reading all comments here but sometime I love to have cup of coffee too.do you friends ?
    . . . . .መ ርየም ጓል ሓጋዝን ዓርከይን . . . . is in Jebena today. thank you.

  • Ermias

    Rahwa T.

    Elenta has now read your message. Let’s see if he* takes the high road and answer your questions or tell you to mind your business because you are from the South of the Mereb River.

    *How do I know Elenta is a he? Well, this from him: ” They will turn to me and say esi kha ko mis Ethiopia tsil-ei’ ale-kka.”

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Dear Hailat & Thomas,

    You have the same positional-argument, solid that reflects to the reality of our nation – an extra-ordinary-expose. Only, I do want to see on Thomas side – to avoid harsh language that irritate his readers in order to count his point on the debate score-board. You have the fact on your side but try to find the right vehicle for your communication. Hailat your debate skill is growing exponentially from time to time. Keep up the good job.

    Regards,
    Amanuel Hidrat

    • Thomas

      Dear Amanuel,

      I have to tell you, Haile TG is my teacher/ mentor;
      and it would take a hundred years to professionally explain/expresses
      myself or expose issues like. Haile TG analyzes current
      affairs/developments of our country in a way no possibly does. Our
      Eritrea and her people are honored to have people like Haile TG. I
      crave to read his writings here because he reads and exposes our current delinquent entirely. I am really proud of him.

      About my reactions to some who chose to go blind and deaf, yes I have to admit I sometimes get out of line and say things I should say here. That is me, but I will try to control my temper; and bit my tongue to stop from saying things I shouldn’t say. That is I will have to carefully ready my writings before I hit the “post” button:))

      Amma – sorry for using offensive language to get through some. I know that can sometimes be annoying.

      Sincerely,
      Thomas.

  • Daniel Teclegiorgis

    ክቡር ተስፋብርሃን!
    ፈለማኳ እዞም ጸሓፋይ፡ ኣርሓ-በጠስ ሓንሰ-መስቀለ
    ዝመስል “ወዲ-እዋን” ዉሉዶም ኣስኢሎም፡ ብዛዕባ ኣብ ሲናይን ላምፐዱሳን ንዓመታት ትልኽ ዝብል ዘሎ ኣተኣላልያ መጻኢ ዕድል ኤርትራውነት፡ ደሃይ ከምዘይብሎም፡
    ናይ ትማሊ ኡሉኾም ክልንቅጡ መዲዶም ዝወቕሩ ዝመስሉ ስለምንታይ ኮን’ኾኑ ዝብል ሚዛን’ዩ ሓዲሩኒ ኔሩ። ማለት’ሲ መልክዕ ናይ’ቲ
    ስእልን፡ መልክዕ ናይ’ቲ ቋንቋን ክዛመደለይ ኣይከኣለን ኔሩ። እዋን ንደቂ እዋን ማለተ’የ!
    ኮይኑ ግን እቲ ስእሊ፡ ስእሊ ናይ ጸሓፋይ፡ እሞ ድማ ናይ ተመራማራይ ምዃኑ
    ካብ ካልኣይ ጽሑፍካ ምሰ’ረጋገጽኩ፡ ብኡነት’የ ዝብለካ፡ ዝጀመርኩዋ ኩባያ ቡን ክሳብ ትውዳእ ከም’ታ ወልፈይ ኣየስተማቐርኩዋን!
    ምስ ነብሰይ ብዙሕ’የ ተማጒተ። ዝኾነ ኾይኑ ኣብ ትምህርትኻን ናይ ሂወትካ ጉዕዞን እቲ ትኣምኖን ትዝክሮን ላዕለዋይ ንጉስ የሰንኻ።
    ገድሊ ካብ ዝዕወት 30 ዓመታት ኣሕሊፉ ኣብ ዝበሃለሉ ምዕራፍ፡ ኣብ’ታ ዝጸሓፍካለይ መልሲ ተንጸባሪቐን ዘለዋ
    “ምምካት፡ ብዙሓዊ ቃልሲ፡ ምንእኣስ/ምጥፋእ መንነት፡ ከም ቆልዓ ኣብ ሓደ ስድራ ዓብዮም፡ ከንቱ፡ ናይ ገዛእ ርእሱ መንነት..” ከም ኣብነት እንተተወሲደን፡ ካብ ሕማም-ቆለ (Yike-alo syndrome) ናይ’ንዳ ይከኣሎ ነቒለን ሓዋርያዊ ተኣዛዝነት ዋርሳይ-ተስታይ ምእንቲ ክፈጥራ ተዘሪአን’ሲ እነሆ 30 ዓመት ድሕሪ ናጽነት፡ ገድሊ ከምዝተዓወተ ስለ ዝጠራጠራ፡ ቃልሲ ርስቲ’ዩ ዝዓይነቱ ጎንፊ ዝእምፍታ ቃላትን ሓረጋትን ክሳብ ክንደይ የደናግራ ከምዘለዋ’ሞ ተዓዘብ ተስፋብርሃን።
    ስለ’ዚ ብዛዕባ Dejen-Syndrome ከይተሰማማዕናስ Tes-syndrome! ትውስኸሉ እንተበልኩ፡ ነቲ መልእኽቲ’ምበር ንተስፋብርሃን ምዝንጣለይ ኣይኮነን።

    ክቡር ተስፋብርሃን ሓደ መዓልት’ሲ ብምኽንያት ሓዘን ተኣኪቡ፡ እቲ ልሙድ ኤርትራዊ ጭቕጭቑ ዝቕጽል ዝነበረ ህዝቢ፡ ቅጭ ዘምጽኣሎም ብሰማንያታት ዝግመት ዕድመኦም ኣቦ “ደቀ’ሺ ዉሉድካ ከተዕብየሉ ዘይትኽእል ዓድ’ሲ ዓዲ ክበሃል ኣይበቅዕን’ዩ”
    ክብሉ ሕልና ኹልና ዝቑንጡ ልዑል ኣመለኻኽታ ዛ’ዓለም ዕዳጋ ለጊሶሙልና።

    ማለት’ሲ በዓል ተስፋብርሃንን መሳትኡን ወሊዶም ደቆም ዘየዕብይሉ ሃገር፡ ሃገር ዘብሎ መዳዩ እንታ’ዩ? ምናልባት ሕጂ’ውን ከም’ቲ ልሙድ ትሕዝቶ ዕትሮ ግደፍ ድብኦ ንቐፍ ወይ
    ድማ “ግበር ትበሃል ትገብር ጽደፍ ትበሃል ትጸድፍ” ዝብል ናይ ገድሊ ትእዛዝ ክገዝእ እንተዘይኮይኑ። እወ ክቡር ተስፋ ብርሃን፡
    ናይ ጎቦታትን ጎላጉልን፡ ናይ ታሴራን ፓስፖርትን ድምር መኣስ ኮይና ኤርትራ። ኤርትራ ህዝቢ’ያ። ኤርትራ ሕጻናት ኣብታይ መሓስኣት
    ጨቓውቲ …… ተወሊዶም ዝዓብዩላ ህያው ሃገር’ያ። ብሓጺሩ 30 ዓመታት ድሕሪ ናጽነት’ሲ፡ ገድሊ ድዩ ህዝቢ ዝቕድም ዝዓይነቱ ናይ
    እንቋቑሖዶ ደርሆ ትቕድም፡ ፍለጡለይ ዝብል ብላይ ክትዕ ንዋጠጠላ ቅርዓት መኣስ ኮይና። ናይ ገድሊ ነገር ንታሪኽ ኣወንዚፍና፡ ብዛዕባ
    ህሉው ኩነታት ናጽነትን መጻኢዕድልን ምብህሃልከ የሕንኽ ድዩ?

    ምስኡ ድማ ኣብ’ዚ ቀረባ ግዜ ተጋዳላይ ኣሕመድ ኣልቐይሲ (ቐይሲ) ምስ ተጋዳላይ ሳሙኤል ገብረሂወት (ዓካዓካ) ኣብ ረድዮ መድረኽ ቀሪቡ ሓሳቡ ክገልጽ እንከሎ፡ ህዝባዊ ግንባር ተዓዊቱ’ዩ። ዓወቱ ግን ብቡምባን ቁምቡላን ናይ ወተሃደራዊ ቅልጽም ዝልካዕ ስለዝኾነ፡ ምስ ምብራቕ ናይ ናጽነት፡ ንገድሊ ዝተገድፈ ዕማም ምኹስኳስ መጻኢ ዕድል ናይ ኤርትራውነት፡ ናይ ምሁራትን ናይ ዓበይቲ ዓድን ኣበርክቶ ይጎድሎ’ዩ፡ ክሳብ ምባል ይበጽሕ። ቀጺሉ ድማ ብዛዕባ ህሉው ኩነታት ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ምስ’ቲ ዝተኸፍለ ዋጋ ኣዛሚዱ ክርእዮ እንክፍትን ዘሕድረሉ ስግኣትን ፍርሓትን የተንብህ።

    ዝኮነ ኾይኑ ንስኻ ዮሴፍ ኣነ ደጀን ከምኡ’ውን ካልኦት…. ገድሊ በቲ ዝተቐየሰሉ ጎደና ተጓዒዙ ከምዝተዓወተ ዝጠራጠር
    የብልናን። ሙሉእ ኣይነበረን ብምባል፡ ኣብ እዋን ንድሕሪት ተመሊስካ፡ ኣብ ሃጓፋት ናይ ታሪኽ ዝውተፍ ነገር ከምዘየለ ድማ ንኹልና
    ብሩህ’ዩ። ፈቲና ጸሊእና ታሪኽ ዝጸልኦ ጸሓፋይ ጸለሎ እንተቐብኦ ዝጽልም፡ ወይ ድማ ዝፈተዎ ጻዕዳ እንተዝቐብኦ ዝጽዕዱ ሰሌዳ’ይኮነን።
    ዝበልና ንበል፡ ከከምኣበሃህልና እናበልናን ካብ ሓድሕድና እናተመሃሃርና ክንሓልፍ ኢና። እቲ ምጽሓፍን ምትንታን ናይ ታሪኽን ግን
    ቀጻሊ’ዩ። ኣጆና ጥራይ!

    እንተ’ቲ ተዓዊቱ ንብሎ ገድሊ ኤርትራ ግን ብእግሩ ክትከድኖ ብርእሱ ዝቕላዕ፡ ብርእሱ ክትከድኖ ድማ ብእግሩ ዝቕላዕ ኮይኑ፡ እነሆ ኣብ እንዳመዓለ’ብኡ ም’ዓል ምሕዳር ኣጊሙዎ፡ ኣብ’ዛ ዓለም ዕዳጋ ጥራሕ ዝባኑ ተቐሊዑ፡ መስሓቕ ሸራፋት ኮይኑ ይረአ’ሎ ምባል ምሕሳው መኣስ ኮይኑ። ኤርትራ ድማ ምሳሉ ክዛረብ ዝፈተነ ዜጋ ዘይነብረላ ዓዲ ኮይና ትረአ’ላ ምባል ንሃገርካ ምቁንጻብ መኣስ ኮይኑ። ……. መኸተ ዘድልዮኮ፡ እዚ ናይ ገድሊ ዝምብለ’ዚ’ዩ ክቡር ተስፋብርሃን።

    ስለ’ዚ ገድሊ ከም መስርሕ ተጠሚቱ ተዓዊቱ ከብቅዕ፡ ብዓወቱ ክነኣድ ብጉድለቱ ድማ ክውቀስ ነውሪ ስለዘይብሉ፡ ካብ ናይ ስራሕን ትምህርትን ከምኡ’ውን ቃልሲ ኣንጻር ድኽነትን ድንቁርናን ወጻኢ፡ ፖለቲካ ናይ ባድመ፡ ተመራሪሕካ ጉዕዞ ናብ ናይ ሲናይ መሸጣ ኩላሊት፡ ብቪድዮ እናቐረጽካ ብጀላቡ ናብ ባሕርታት ላምፐዱሳ ብመስርዕ ክሳብ ምእታው…… ዝንጸባረቕ ዘሎ ኩነታት’ሲ፡ ተስፋ ቑርጸት በ’ተኣላልያ መጻኢ ዕድል ናይ ኤርትራውነት ድዩ ወይስ ቆራጽነት’ዩ? … እዚ ኣደራዕ’ዚ ካበ’ዩ መጺኡ ክትብል ብዛዕባ መንቀሊኡ ሃሰስ ምባል ዘሕንኽ
    መኣስ ኮይኑ። … ምናልባት ከም’ቲ ልሙድን እዝኒ መብዛሕትና ዝብህጎን፡ ኢሳያስ ወይ ድማ ህግደፍ ጥራይ’ዮም ዝሕተቱሉ ከምዘይትብለኒ
    ኣይጠራጠርን።

    ኣብ መወዳእታ ሓሳባት ልበይ እንተዝሰምረለይ፡ ዕድመኻ ትምህርትኻን ተመኩሮኻን ዘዳቕል መጽናዕቲ፡ ዓወት ብለውጢ ከምዝምጠን፡ ናጽነት ብመሰል ከምዝዕቀን፡ “ዝተወልደ ዘይዓብየሉ ኩነታት ዝገዝኦ ቦታ ድማ ሃገር ምባሉ ከምዝኸብድ” መንነት ከኣ ካብ እንዳኻ
    ተነቒልካ ናብ ምሉእ ዓለም ፋሕ ብትን እናበልካ ከምዘይኩስኮስ፡ ዝገላብጥ፡ ንቕድሚት ዝኣንፈተ መጽናዕቲ ብተደጋጋሚ ናብ ገድሊ እንተዝቐርብ፡
    ህዝብን ገድልን ምተቐራረበ’መስለኒ። እንተ ክርክር ብዛዕባ ገድሊ እንታይ ይመስል ነበረ ግን ንጀብሃን ሻዕብያን ላሕ ስለዘበለ፡
    ኣብ ሎሚ በጺሕካ’ውን ኣይኣኽሎን’ዩ ዝተባህለ እንተተባህለ።

    ምስ ሰላምታ!

    • haileTG

      ሰላም ሓው ዳንኤል፡

      መቸም ነቲ ውሕሉልን መስተውዓሊን ሓሳባትካ ከይነኣድኩ ክሓልፍ ኣይደልን። ብዝኾነ ነገር ክሰልጠና መታን ናብታ እንኮ ዘይዓገብኩላ ኣበሃህላ ጥራይ ከድህብ። በቲ ካልእ ስለ ዝዓገብኩ ግን ምድጋሙ ጠቕሚ የብሉን።

      “ከም’ቲ ልሙድን እዝኒ መብዛሕትና ዝብህጎን፡ ኢሳያስ ወይ ድማ ህግደፍ ጥራይ’ዮም ዝሕተቱሉ ከምዘይትብለኒ ኣይጠራጠርን።” ዝበልካያ እይተዋሕጠትለይን። እቲ ምንታይ’ሲ ካብኡ ሓሊፍካ ምኻድ ምስ ዓቕምታት ዘይዛነ ፍታሕ ዘባኹር ጉዳይ ምንዳይ ስለዝኾነ። መርመራና ንፍታሕ ዝዓለመ እምበሪ ንስለ መርመራን፡ ምውስዋስ ሓንጎልን ክኸውን ኣይግባእን። ህዝብና ድኻ ህዝቢ እዩ። ሰብዓ ሚእታዊ ሓረስታይ እዩ። ማሕበራዊ፡ ትምህርታዊን፡ ቁጠባውን ኩነታትና ገና ድሩትን ንብዙሕ ሓርጎጽጎጽ መንገዲ ዝህብን እዩ። ኮይኑ ግን ናይ ስራሕ ዕድል ዝነፈገ ህግደፍ እዩ፣ መንእሰይ ኣብ በረኻ ዝቐፈደ ህግደፍ እዩ፣ ሃገር ናብ ቁጠባዊ ልምሰት ዝኖቖተ ህግደፍ እዩ፣ ናይ ምንቅስቃስ ዜጋታት ዝኣገደ ህግደፍ እዩ፣ ፍርሒ ራዕድን ሽበራን ዘንገሰ ህግደፍ እዩ፣ ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ንዝተዋደቐላን ኣእላፍ ዝኸፈለላን ሃገር ኩቦ ደርብዩላ እግረይ ኣውጽኒ ኢሉ ክብርግግ ዝገብር ራዕድን ሸበራን ዝመርሕ ዘሎ ህግደፍ እዩ። አዚ አዩ እንኮን ሓደን ሽግርን ጠንቅን ኩነታትና። ይኣክል ምስሉይነት፡ ይኣክል ሓድሕድ ምግድዳዕ፡ ድኻ ህዝብና ዝበደሎ የብሉን፡ ህግደፍን ውልቀ መራሒ ህግደፍን ዘስገደድዎ ሓደጋ ዝተሳጥሔ ሓላል ህዝቢ እዩ። ሓድነት ሃገር ናይ ሃደሽደሽ ሓደጋ ተቓሊዕዎ ኣሎ፣ ሽግርና ብምስሉይ ትንታነ ዝፍታሕ ኣይኮነን። ሬሳታት ዓይኖም ከይከደንና፡ ተሃዋሲ ኣከያይዳ ካብ ምኻድ ክንቁጠብ ይግባእ። እዛ መራር እዋን ክትሓልፍ እያ፡ እቲ ዘግድዕ ዘሎ ኣካል ብግብሩ ዝሓንከሉ እዋን እውን ከርክብ እዩ። ብሓቂ፡ ህግደፍን ኢሰያስን እዩመ ጠንቂ ዓቕሊ ጽበት ዕሸላት ደቅናን ኣሓትናን። ብሓሳብ ኣይንጣለም፡ ነቲ ሓቂ ንተኣመን። ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ከምዚ ዝገጠሞ ውጽኢት እቲ ድሕሪ 2001 ኣብ ልዕሊኡ ዝተስገደድ ከቢድ ግህሰት ሰብኣዊ መሰል እዩ። ልዕሊ ህዝቢ ሶርያ ተጫኒቑ ዘሎ ህዝቢ፡ ጽግዒ ይደሊ ኣሎ፡ ጠንቂ ሽግሩ ኣብ ማይ ቤቱ እንከሎ ህውታትያ ኣይንዓድም።

      ክብረት ይሃበለይ፡ የቐንየለይ ድማ፣

      • Ermias

        Hailat, that was a great read and so was Daniel T.’s comment. kemzi kemakatkum yibzihu. hanti kir tibleni neger entela gin – the fact that when these young men and women make it to the West after such a trying experience, they voice virtually no opposition to the PFDJ. I totally understand that they have other priorities as in assimilating with the new society, getting their work permits, working long hours to help their very needy families. So I get it – they get very constrained and I wouldn’t complain too much about that. But I have heard many a time that they turn around and say eten teqawemti zibahala kaa etc. I hardly ever see any bitterness about how they were treated back in the PFDJ land let alone for them to voice an organized opposition to the regime. Do you have a theory for this Hailat? Maybe your observation and experience is different, however.

        • Nitricc

          Lol
          It is okay one day you will catch up.
          Instead of asking other people’s opinion how about yours?
          What do you think?
          You are as intelligent as any one in here. Tell as what do you think?
          Ggghhhhh

          • Ermias

            Okay, good question Nitricc buddy. I have listed some of the reasons in my comment above. As you may know full well, adjusting to life from Eritrea to the West takes a long time. Sometimes, some people cannot make the transition and we see a lot of bad decisions. I have heard many who take their lives. But more commonly, most get absorbed in their daily lives and never bother to check back.

            I have also said here before that these young people were working with their uncles, relatives, or whatever in Tegadelti. So it is extremely difficult to put a face to your enemy in this case, which means they can’t figure out who their real enemy is. That is one of the major problems. Getting demoralized and being treated as a human being with no authority to question anyone is another major fact. It would take an article to elaborate on each point here.

            My question to Haile was actually ‘why the deep mistrust’ towards the opposition groups as these young men and women had never had any exposure to the opposition prior to their arrival in the west. Most never knew about any oppositions until they get to the US or Europe. What’s your take Nitricc?

        • haileTG

          Hey Ermi,

          You have outlined some practical impediments that easily meet the eye or are the first to to be posted as excuse. The reality is murkier and much complex than that. PFDJ is a criminal organization that utilizes blackmail as a first stop to undermine opposition. The typical form of opposition to a mafia cartel (common sense one) is to avoid it or do a disappearing act. That is what many do. It gets ugly, it personalizes attacks and utilizes the darn ignorant among us by flattering them to be in charge of this or that. Hence, as I said people avoid it. Without going afar consider the different festivals that PFDJ is running this summer and how it is populated a section of hardcore and old timers. Try to see beyond the camera tricks and you will see that the diaspora opposition has reached its thick. We are in a situation where PFDJ can’t even generate 1000 petition signatures in countries were tens of thousands of Eritreans reside.

          At the next level, or deeper way of undermining opposition, PFDJ uses a forward feeder fomenting of enmity. When in the past the opposition were few and using extreme tactics, many well meaning Eritreans were trying to tell them to moderate their ways, at the same time hardcore PFDJ operatives were agitating people not to invite or get in touch or even attend the socials of opposition. To PFDJ this strategy is deeper that it appears, it creates personal enmity among Eritreans that would later impede them from standing together.

          The above two are consistent with the obvious reaction which is to distance from PFDJ rather than brace for a fight by organizing an opposition. Also, the opposition is the product of the dysfunctional diaspora , hence has a multitude of problems. Mostly it is a part time operations and sets personal goals of few individuals above the work of the establishment of a national opposition organization. It has no intelligence gathering body, it doesn’t understand the mechanics of carrying out battles like this one. And is run by extremely low moral and inefficient leaderships.

          We must also admit that most of our people (mostly in the diaspora) have also become more dishonorable especially women. Many are extremely selfish, pompous and care very little other than their immediate family. Their current fervor of blaming the opposition that they didn’t do a damn thing to assist is a facade of the sort of cannibalistic orgy they are engaged in. They see the untimely death of Eritrean youngsters, the darkness in the horizon of the nation’s head, the bitter reality of at home that they know first hand and still want to cater for their selfish desires. They still from the poor Eritrean people by engaging in black forex exchange, they entertain in PFDJ festivals that is lavished with blood money of their brothers and sisters, they wish to buy a house in Eritrea atop the grave yards of Eritrean children. Don’t buy their little blame the opposition, blame the lampedusa victims bla bla self serving. When they switch the light off and rest to sleep, their conscience is always telling them and will get worse.

          So, the new weak and desperate migrants are confused and judge them not. The old timer pro regime (that are still supporting) can be likened to flesh eating vultures as Sophia T, Ghideon A Tesfay A et.al…

          But rest assured, the popular resistance to PFDJ rule is at a blowing point. Let it, heat up a bit more:-)

          • Ermias

            Hailuwa* (oops, I said it again Nitricc),

            That is a piercing, bold, and pinpoint analysis. Women have always been the backbone of this junta regime, even in medda. But there has been a long and systematic brainwashing of Eritrean women. They have been made to believe that their family, children and welbeing comes after the bigger cause – which is hager. This is one of the things where YG (sorry to interject him here) makes a profound analysis in one of his essays.

            In the west, though, they are in the comfort of their warm homes while dancing at the anguish of Eritreans back home. Switching loyalty is a big sin to them even as you said when they guilty conscience keeps them awake at night.

    • Tesfabirhan WR

      ዝኸበርኩም ኣቶ ዳኒኤል ተኽለግዮርግሽ

      ነዛ ካብ መጽሓፍ ክቡርን ዓቢዩን ኤርትራዊ ጸሓፊ ስነ ጥበባዊን ፍላስፋን ነፍስሄር ኣቶ በየን ሃይለ ዘንበብዋ ጽሕፍቲ ንቐደም በሉ ዪብለኩም፦

      መንእሰይ ኤርትራ ብናይ ንእስነት ሃልሃልታ ናጽነት ክንደይ ግዜ ነዲዱ ይኸውን። ኣብ ሓምሳታት፡ ሰሳታት፡ ሰብዓታት፡ ሰማንያታት፡ ዋላ ቅድም ቀዳድምዚ ግዜ እንተዀነ ኣብ ኤርትራ ዘቃጽል ሓዊ መዓስ ጠፊኡ ይፈልጥ፧ ኣዛሚት ኣብ ፈለማ ዓመት ሰማንያታትያ ብፍቕሪ ሃገር ዝተቓጸለት ዘይኮነስ ዝተባርዐት’ዩ ዝበሃል። ኣነ ድማ ቅድሚኣ’ኳ ብስምዒት እንተ ተናኸስኩ ብግሁድ ሰውራ ክልብለብ ኣይተረኣኹን። ኣብ ምንታይ ውራይ ተኣጒደ ብስምዒት ክቃጸል ከምዝኽእል ንገዛእ-ርእሰይ ኣይፈለጥኩን። ሓደ ዓርከይ ከም ጸወታ ገይሩ፡ “ንዓኻ ዘሳውር ሰብ ዘሎ ኣይመስለንን። ወይ ንዓኻ ዝኸውን መሳወሪ የለን። ወይ ኣይጻወርን ኢኻ። ብረቂቕ ሓሳባት ክትነድ ድ፡ ክትቃጸል፡ ባልባል ወይ ቃልቃል ክትብል ትኽእል ኢኻ፡ ትሑዝ መሳውሪ ግን ኣይረኸብካን፡” ይብለኒ ነይሩ። ብቓላት ዝጻወት ዝነበረ ኢዩ ዝመሰለኒ። ዝኾነ ኮይኑ ኣብቲ ውሽጣው ክዉን ሰውራ እምበር ናብ ሜዳ ቓልሲ ኣይከድኩን። ሰውራይ ምሳይ ተጣቢቑ ተሪፉ፤ ውሽጣ-ውሽጢ ይበልዓኒ፡ ኣንብብ ጸሓፍ ይብለኒ፡ ከም ሕሱም ይገዝኣኒ፡ ውነይ ከየውጽእ ይሓልከኒ፡ ኣይቶግርዕ እናበለ ከኣ ካብ ፈወስተይ ይፈልየኒ ነይሩ። ሕጂ ናጽነት ምስ ረኣየ ግን ማእሰርቱ ፍትሕ ዝልቕ የብለለይ ኣሎ። ኣነ’ውን ብዘይ ፍርሒ ናብ ጎደና ናጻ ምህዞ እጉዓዝ ኣሎኹ።

      (መወከሲ: ትጽቢት ባህጉ ምዕራፍ 3 ገጽ 27)

      የቐንየለይ

      ሓውኹም
      ተስፋብርሃን

  • Thomas

    Elenta – the difference is you are not different than an animals. Clearly, you are the support of the regime, but you are one of the coward once who would not even admit it. Your friends must be ashamed and annoyed by you, I think they should try to stay as far as they can away from you. You don’t seem to care what is going to your own people, yet you found time to talk about the ethiopian opposition arrests. How about the over 10k eritrean who are languishing in your master’s prison camps and the mostly teenagers drowning at the Mediterraneans sea and the Senai misery and all. Can you think about this just for a change? I guess they are not your business, right? Quite an entertainer you are!!

    • Elenta

      Mr.Tom(my favorite cat!)

      Add this :You don’t seem to care what is going to your own people, yet you found time to watch “Seinfeld show”.Can you think about those 10k eritrean under the ground cell who doesn’t have a chance to see a glimpse of light for days, weeks or years.Think about it!
      You don’t also seem happy to hear anything good about Eritrea and as well as Eritreans mentioning the good work they have done in Eritrea after independence. That is why you maliciously attack the good Dr.by going in to her private life.

      Stop pretending.

      • Thomas

        Listen, Mr. International news viewer or analyzer. Mention one good thing that you is going on within the country? Is it the brightness of the capital city or is it the supply of water to her residence? If you are talking about the achievement of Eritrean sport players in the international arena, is it because of the annually departing in a group of 12 or more of the soccer players or is the one or two people who somehow succeeded in the bicycling Olympics? Again, what are the positive achievements that you wanted to talk about? I tried to relate Seinfeld show with the debate in awate forum, so what? However, it is stunning for you talk about the imprisonments of one or two political figures in ethiopia while your entire people are living in a dire situation. Tell me, Mr. international news viewer, what is your fantasy? Can you be serious to help the oppressed (fight the mass murderers)?

  • Kim Hanna

    Selam Jemal,
    .
    I read all this “nonsense and irrelevant topic” of yours and was going to the next post. However, I saw the last two words of your last sentence, that cried out for a response. “Peaceful integration” is not open for debate. The answer is no, absolutely not. Reconciliation only, between two neighborly countries, is yes, and about time. Long term economic integration, Addis Ababa, is talking about in regard to all our neighborhood is more or less a business model. If that is what you are thinking about, I will stand corrected.

    • Jemal

      Kim,
      You deserve a response and clarification.
      Yes,by Integration I mean–economic.You mean Unity,ooh,NO,I am NOT entitled to mention that and the 90,000 + Eritreans Martyrs may NOT allow that.
      As to my ” Nonsense Topics”:
      Well,these are your own Government’s words and position statements,which are well documented FACTS .
      If you are “defending” Mr.Teweldebrhan Kifle,well,read his articles and comments closley.
      And if you are still stuck with your Flip-Flopping positions,how in the world would you expect Peace and Reconciliation,while at the same time you are preaching and acting against Peace and Reconciliation.
      —-an that is exactly what I can read from your brothers and sisters in this Forum from the South,except Kim and,my favorite,Dr Fanti Ghana.

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Selam Tes,

    Don’t try to answer to any conceivable questions. Check some of them are repeated questions and whether they agree or disagree they have given answers either by you or others. Check also whether they are relevant to the issue at hand or irrelevant question for diversions. By doing that you will save your time and energy.

    Hawka,
    Amanuel Hidrat

  • Tesfabirhan WR

    ኽቡር ኣቶ ዳንኤል ተኽለገርግሽ

    ብዛዕባ እቱይ ዚሃምቡምኒ ምኽሪን ልቦና ዝመልኦ ወቐሳን ብሓቂ ኣዝየ የመስግነኩም። ካብ ምስጋና ዝሓልፍ ብዙሕ ዘረባ እኮ እንተዘይብለይ ኣብቲ ዚጸሓፍኩምዎ ንእሽቶ ግን ከኣ ዓቢን ትኹረት ዘድልዮም መልእኽትታን ነቢበ። ብዝኾነ ኮይኑ ከምቲ ንስኻትኩም አትከፍሉ ኣብ ዘየድሊ ቆይቂ ኪንኣቱ ዘይኮነስ ሓውና ክቡር ኣቶ ዮሴፍ ገብርሂወት ንልዕሊ ዓሰርተው ሽውዓኣተው ዓመታት ዚኣክል ንህዝቢ ኤርትራ ከም ሓደው ኮንቱ ዚኾነ፡ ውጽኢት ገድሊ ዝኾነ ድኣንበር ናይ ገዛእ ርእሱ መንነት ዘይብሉ ጌሩ ክገልጾ ጸኒሑን ሕጂ ውን ገና ዝቕጽል ይመስል። መበገሲ ጽሑፈይ ድማ እዚ ኮይኑ፡ ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ዉላድ ገድሊ ዘይኮነስ ንሱ ንዕሊ ግደሊ ከምዚኾነ ንክዕ ከምዚ ቆልዑ ኣብ ሓደ ስድራ ዓብዮም አንከብቅዑ ኣብቲ ዳሕራይ ግዜው ግን በብዓለሞም ከምዝኸዱ፡ ገድሊ ድማ ካብዚ ምንም ዘፍሊ የብሉን እኮ ኪቢል አንተዘይደፈርኩ ተመሳሳልነቶም ግና ከይተረድኣኒ ኪሓልፍ ኣይክእልን። ስለዚ ድማ፡ ክቡር ኣቶ ዳንኤል ተኽለገርግሽ ነዝይ ንህዝቢ ኤርትራ ኮነ ኢሉ ኣብ ምንእኣስ መንነት ጥራሕ ዘይኮነስ ኣብ ምትፋእ ዚነቐለ ምምካት ካብቲ እንገብሮ ዘለና ብዙሓዊ ቃልሲ ዚፍለ ኣይኮነን።

    ክቡር ኣቶ ዳንኤል ተኽለገርግሽ ከም ኣካዳምያዊ ሰብ ኢለ ንነብሰይ ክገልጻ ኮ ብባህልና ብድዐ ዚመስል እንተኾነ፡ መልእኽተይ ብምርምራዊ ኣገባብ ዝተኸተለ እዩ ዘስምዕ። ዝመራመር ድማ ፈሊጡ ዘይኮነስ ንቱይ ዘይፈልጦ ንኽፈልጥ ዚጽዕር ማለተይ እዩ።

    እቱይ ዘልዓልኩምዎ ነጥቢ ብሓቂይ ኣገዳሲ ጥራሕ ኢልካ ዝሕለፍ ዘይኮነስ፡ ቃልስና ናብ ሓደው ኣንፈት ሒዙ ምስ ዚጉዓዝ ኣዝዩ ኣድማዒ ይገብሮ። ነዙይ ዝሃብኩምኒ ማዕዳ ኣብ ልበይ ከሕድሮ ድማ እቱይ ህያው ኣምላኽ ይሓግዘኒ።

    የቐንየለይ

    • Ermias

      Very good reply Tes. I may not agree with everything you said, nor with every thing Daniel T. said. But since you have taken on a huge task of ‘exposing YG’ as you said yourself, you will need exactly this kind of composure and thoughtful replies to undertake such a daunting charge.

      • Tesfabirhan WR

        Dear Ermias,

        Thank you first but I would kindly request you not to politicize words. Just look between your lines. I just exposed (according to my understanding, this is what I am saying repeatedly) YG’s work on this particular article. YG wrote very extensively on Eritrea, the Gedli and Eritrean people, I did not go one by one on all works. Therefore, kindly do not try to diverge to a direction that I did not say.

        With Regards.

        hawka
        tes

        • Ermias

          Dear Tes,

          My apologies, I misunderstood. I should have gone back to reread the context under which you said ‘to expose.’ I have no agenda myself of defending YG of all his work nor to discredit any of your work in any manner. I just happen to agree with some of the things YG writes. But you both are more than capable of debating it out if it comes down to it without anyone’s help – I should say on Dejen.

  • Tesfabirhan WR

    Dear Selamawi,

    Whether I understood it or not, keep on watching my response to this one article and challenge me and show me my ignorance. It is very simple.

    You came up with your first evaluation on the missing reference and now you are telling me that if I do not understand YG. dear Selemawi, again, I believe I understood his article on this particular moment and from the articles that I read so far I have my own understanding on YG and I said it.

    I can not say you are this and that but YG has never failed to recruit followers. I am not forgetting how damageable it is for the followers if his master is exposed fully and is found to be guilty. The follower will defend and this is normal if not who to follow. Followers need leaders and I am quite sure that YG has recruited some blind and empty headed followers already. I can only Sorry for these kind of people and it is not late if they abandon him right now if not just stay and follow and will them to know where. The only thing to say is it is better to be the master of themselves. YG is living in lonely world like his model Franz Kafka and hallucinating. And yes I equally believe that YG is a philosopher but a mythical philosopher and his works are based on logic of Fallasy

    (http://www.philosophicalsociety.com/logical%20fallacies.htm#interrogation).

    I am hear to expose YG not to philosophize on YG.

    hawka
    tes

  • T. Kifle

    Ab Enda Isaias, it never mattered. ኢሳያስ ፈታዊ ክርዓቱ ምግያሽ ኣይፎቱ።

  • Thomas
  • Semere Andom

    The betrayed youth and those who smile at the betrayal:

    Vet Mahmuday had so much fun with my first comment, I suspect that he did not have this much fun since he was separated from the “berberes” of his “ganta” 🙂

    Here I will try to clarify jelab/ashan katir munadl Wed Saleh. I am trying to recreate as my earlier comment by the same heading ended up in awate/disqus halewa sewra:-)

    Mahmuday blamed it on the so called diaspora opposition for not winning the hears of these youth, what my comments tried to tell especially him was that first give the youth their hearts back that were stolen from them by PFDJ both literally and figuratively then we shall see if we fail to win those hearts. Give them their minds then we can blame the opposition for failing to win their minds.

    Wed Saleh you cannot have it both ways, failing a full fledged armed struggle by the opposition, an endeavor you have decried as hitchhiking on the backs of enemy tanks, but the so called diaspora opposition has indeed formula its mission: clarified what ails Eritrea and prescribed the solution and because the opposition is not evil like PFDJ did not say whatever it takes to destroy the PFDJ, a formula that was at the heart of PFDJ/EPLF style.

    The opposition also shamed the dictator and the mantra of Isaias afewerki song that made vet Mahmud “egil Ltnafer wo egil aserir fi derb/sebil” repression of PELF, the embryo that was the precursor of PFDJ.

    So instead of duking it with the Teg T. Kifles, who are rightly beating their chests for their well-deserved success because they have something to show for and you/we have none and instead of demanding privacy in the family matter, it is better to work so these youth can inherit/reclaim the ideals upon which our Ghedli was founded before it was hijacked by IA and singers of the false accolades of his.

    The teachers and mentors of these youth were tegadelti who taught them what I have mentioned in my first comment, false Eritrean history such as “sala waela tekli, sala lidete wedi afom”, devoid of any clarity of thinking, rendered them button pushers, gun shooters, seeking for self gratifying activities of endless “guaylas”.

    By investing on the imbeciles in the YPFDJ to lead these activities and rewarding them with free trips to Sawa to destroy more brain cells on the already scarce cells. Eritrea is a failed state not only because the infrastructure and basic services are not available, but as manifested in the youth PFDJ has set up the nation so it can be unsalvageable.

    Then I can join Mahmuday to sing the new bed time lulubay:

    haleb setena
    wo coca abena
    Yes am still in kidengarten with my Tigryat so am allowed to use the “na”
    Saleh samiE ykon itasElu
    wo bedena
    wo lakin bselametna
    aqblna

    • Mahmud Saleh

      Semere A ;
      I think I have the same experience with the youth over here Semere. The difference between you and me could explained by looking at our background experiences.I saw the darkest and the lowest moments of Eritrea, I also saw Eritreans resilience, and the spirit of not giving up, we fall, but we get up. This is not your typical PFDJ propaganda, it is an eyewitness account. From your writing I could tell you are more related to metaHt than to Kebesa, I would say You have ELF background, raised in the Sudan (Kokhob TsebaH?) or a student in one of the schools run by ELF in the Sudan, because if you are not from the Blin, or MensaE or Tigrigna interacting with Tigre…( You said you were not from Senhit) how could you display such multicultural/multilingual character? I am assuming you are younger than me, if not tell the world now you are an old guy, and stop playing an impostor. Now, if you are an old guy, then you, SAAY, SJG, Sem H… and me can play an advisory role, provided that we have enough coffee, and Cherra to fend off flies (we can buy drone flies to simulate that Kebesa setting), those illegible of us are allowed to have xmaQ Swa or mies with moderation. So, as I told you above, my background is ghedli, and I don’t repent that under the severest whippings. This is though a great news for you and, actually, an antidote of the pill you swallowed in the ghettos of Rome. It will remind you that those kids, even though they were raised by PFDJ (or tegadelti, as you put it) are still human beings capable of correcting their notion. tes and teg/MaHmuday are living examples. Harbegna tes came out of Nakfa Social Science (እንዳ ካድር) with his brain intact. On the other hand, you have diagnosed my friend nitricc as having one neuron left and unsalvageable, you are waiting till his one neuron “multiplies”. You know neurons have been declared unmultipliable, therefore, you are saying he is permanently out of work (not that I enjoy stoking fire between you guys, but just to make a case). Here, nitricc who has never been under ghedli influence is a die-hard defender of ghedli, while kids who have grown up under the lurking influence of ghedli are separating themselves from its grip although with empty cranial cavity as you described them. You said they hate PFDJ but are not ready to fight it (you said they blamed the anti-government demonstration in Bologna). If they were paralyzed by PFDJ brainwash they would tell you they had no problem with PFDJ. But they did not. All they showed was suspicion of the anti-government forces, which you should expect. What it tells you is the fact that these kids have made it safely with their brains intact, and they are smart enough not to fall in to traps, they are testing the waters, and whoever understands them and echoes their needs and expectations is going to get them. That’s what I am talking about teg/Semere. Probably they have not understood the objectives of the anti-government demonstrations. Were there efforts by the organizers to explain their objectives to these kids? You just don’t expect ready made minds. At the center of any political struggle are the minds of the domain the political factions are fighting over. These kids are up for grab, fight to win them; but beating the ghedli blame is not going to be a smart winning strategy. Look inward, listen to sara, may be a trip to Frankfurt could be cheaper and safer than what I had suggested in my previous reply, a trip to Nakfa.
      ቅሩብ ካብ ናይ ገድሊ መርሓ (ርእስኻ ከየሐመካ ደኣ’ምበር)፡ ሓፋሽ ይወደብ፡ ይንቃሕ፡ ይተዓጠቕ!! ወላሂ፡ ያ ሰመረ ክሳብ ሕጂ ሕማቕ ጀማሂር ኮይንካ ኣለኻ። እንተቐጺልካዮ ክትድስክል ኢኻ። For now, I won’t forward your file to SAAY and nitricc.

      • Semere Andom

        Selam Teg Mahmud: Your assumptions are wrong because you missed this exchange with Sal
        I work on my Arabic and Tigrayit as much as I can and ironically . I first met, Afet beauty kissed Sal when Alnahda reported from Asmara during my trip to Sudan, my fascination with Tigryat started then. I am not related to ELF, but I got to know them as fine men and women, compared to my relatives who were EPLFites. I spent a day in Keren after independence and 3 months in Barka dodging you:-)
        High school in Kessala and Khartoum and formative years in Asmara and Mendefera, here you go bio of wedi Andom in a nutshell

        Read the following comment that you may have missed

        ======================
        Abu Salah: kemey kemy:)
        First the translation of “megbey” as my nourishment or sustenance is a typical Tigryina metaphor When I was a kid, eveyy older lady I wrote a letter for told me to write “nafkotkum kem mai ytsemAna kem enjera aytemYena” You know at one point the names Maaza (vitamin) was popular. In Engliish it makes no sense.

        About the “hawey” for lover as you know the Amiche’s and Ethiopians laugh at that.

        Here is what I think, a spouse is considered of as “guna”, a stranger

        when “enda wedi” finally take the bride, her village or “gezawta” sing the following send off lyrics: It is disturbing when you consider what the priest has told them “kem” Saran Abrahamn, but folklore paints the husband as a stranger not be trusted, so the brother/sister is more important and I think Ghedli took its clue when it told tegadalti “metkel” is more important than any other human relation. Do not roll your eyes buddy, I just veered, ok, mesely eyu kichalid, MESELY,MESELY,MESEL BEYNEY 🙂
        ኪዲዮም ኪዲዮም ዓዲ ጓና
        ፍሽኽ እንዳ በልኪ ልቦም ርኽብዮም
        ኪዲዮም ኪዲዮም ዓዲ ጓና
        ፍሽኽ እንዳ በልኪ ተዕዘብዮም
        And as a self- declared, awate.com reporter I want to comment a balanced view between Tigre and Tigriniya, here is what I found weird thing about husband and wife in the low lands and no one has given me a good answer as of yet and I turn to Gadi and Wedi Saleh and Sal.
        when we were coming to the Sudan, we wanted to dodge the EPLF and were stuck in one village in Barka and there was a wedding and the bride would run from the groom every night and he would not catch her for several days/weeks, she is hard to get and as a result she garners huge of respect from her family and friends, the longer she stays elusive. Sal because you are just “brki nhbi” here is an exclusive for you: my firs exposure to Tigrayit word was “tsebteya itsebteya” :-). Oh, I mean you are “brki lilo” 🙂
        The deference the bride earned was captured in spontaneous songs every night.

        ========================================================================

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Sem,

      Remember when you come back, we will look from you what Saay use to call it “summary report” a short essay about your experience with Eritrean-Diaspora in Europe. Don’t forget to take note in every meeting you encounter and you will compare and contrast with us on the opposite side of the Atlantic. Your home work my friend.

      Regards,
      Amanuel Hidrat

      • Semere Andom

        Hi Emma:
        For sure, I am embedded here so, your job is to convince your buddy Sal to allow it, my fear is the conversations that is taking place over popcorn to celebrate may render my summary un publishable 🙂

        • saay7

          Wed Abuye Andom:

          I am sure it will be publishable. I think we have already picked a title for it: “I Was Wrong And Nitricc Was Right.” Just kidding:) Back to the popcorn…

          saay

          • Semere Andom

            Sal Hawey:
            The title will be “Sem is not shaking his head, he is nodding his head” :-))
            why is Ayay Saleh Gadi quit, is he mad at me?

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Sem,

          He will not bar you from doing that. After all you are “wedi-Geza”. Just take it as home work.

          Amanuel H.

  • Eyob Medhane

    Rodab,

    “…..You are free to go now. Class dismissed. Thanks….”

    See, now that’s funny…. 🙂

  • Mahmud Saleh

    Dear tes; (the author and the fighter)
    I already relayed to you my appreciation and told you before it was published that I was waiting for the second part. Just ignore the acute defamers, they are lost souls. We will consider them the lost children, a collateral damage, but where were they during the referendum? Or doctor Amare failed to report them? I am just musing. Whiners don’t get it, because they know they will be challenged to walk the walk, that if they believe PDFJ is evil (which it is) and needs to be discarded, naturally they will be expected to act out, but they are not up to the job. The difference between them and ghedli generation is that, ghedli generation felt the need to rebel an authority and acted out, but this group expect their whining of “it shouldn’t have been that way” will deliver a result. So, like their mentor, they live in endless circular motion. For the sake of discussion, let me pose a question to them: say ghedli brought all these mess, then what? I want someone to tell me how is it that whining about ghedli is going to change the reality. Whether it was evil or unnecessary is irrelevant. “What do you do now to change the situation'” is the question of your time. tes is untangling the web of fabrication and pseudo-intellectualism of an author. Dear tes, I am holding my fire till you come up with the second part, overall, good work, if you would not spend time and energy on concepts and vocabularies that can’t raise ambiguity on average adult readers, it will save you time.

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Dear Mahmud,
      I like the following quotation of yours if yourself also abide with it without going to the ghedli era.
      “I want someone to tell me how is it that whining about ghedli is going to change the reality. Whether it was evil or unnecessary is irrelevant. “What do you do now to change the situation'” is the question of your time”. That was all the way my crying to those who are drugging us to the past. Focusing to the current crises is paramount than anything we debate here.

      regards,
      Amanuel Hidrat

      • Estifanos

        Dear Amanuel Hidrat,

        Please help me to understand your position. I’m confused and here is why:

        Recently, you indicated that you are in agreement with the
        latest article by YG which exactly did what you seem to oppose in your comment
        above. The article addresses “the irreconcilable contradictions that
        coexist in the mind [of our society] “. He finished his lengthy article
        with the following statement. “If there is anything that Dejen’s escape story
        has shown, it is that people are kept in Prison Eritrea more by the state of
        their mind rather than by the strength of the regime.”

        YG in his article traced the source of our problem back to the gedli era. Here is another quote
        from his article “ he [Dejen] has to free himself from being a hostage to the revolutionary past that has made
        him deny agency to his oppressors.”

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Estif,

          I will come with an article where I support YG’s argument and where I disagree with him. But I gave my general understanding of his essay to Tes and Mahmud in my previous argument. Just check Tes’s article, he quoted me correctly. I will come with a conceptual and philosophical rebut where I disagree with him soon.

          regards,
          Amanuel Hidrat

      • Mahmud Saleh

        MarHab ya Ustaz;
        I think we are heading in the right direction; you might have noticed it lately that I am trying, as much as I could, to be a good citizen. Fanti Ghana, Ermias and I launched a unique club dubbed “peacemakers club” or ” Club Salam.” We’re just keeping low profile in order to evade Nitricc radar, you know the young man has strong olfactory cells when it comes to Tigray and Tograyans. Assurances have been dispatched to him that the club does not talk border issues and similar politics. I have also announced that I ceased fire with regard to brotherly EPLF/ELF bickering, it’s consumed our time and energy and has become a diversionary attrition, pitching good people against each other. My concern is the likes of Eyob who spoil the moment. Oh, also of news worthy, it appears T.Kifle and I are making progress, we’re working in our dysfunctional relationship. There is no guarantee that things won’t turn to the worst; a generation ravaged by war and the news of war is prone to easy pokes, you never know when they will strike, for what reason and which direction. But I will try my best to keep my missiles in check. Regarding the article you raised, I am really glad you are doing that, and we will see when it comes out.

        • Fanti Ghana

          Hello Mahmud,
          By the way, I haven’t forgotten about our “Club Selam”, just having a busy week. I will give it quality time on Sunday. Speaking of progress, I gave TK an up-vote earlier for saying something almost nice to Nitricc. There is hope brother!

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Dear FG;
            Yes, my friend, we will keep engaged.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Haw Mahmud,

          Don’t be swayed by the diversionists. What ever they say they will not change the truth. Stay focus on the question of our time as you aptly put it. We are just wasting our energy delving in to history at this time. Do not be easily provoked even if they try to do so. We have enough intellectual capital but we are still unable to synchronized the know how. That is the sad part of our reality. So stay sober and focused to what you could contribute to mitigate the Eritrean reality.

          Hawka,
          Amanuel Hidrat

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Ahalan Aman H;
            Accepted, I think we will designate this week ” the week of peace.”

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Why not for perpetual peace? So you are on temporary cease fire. Ay’Giden!!!!!!!!

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Aman H,
            No, as a symbol, just like ቅነ ሕጻናት…መምሃራን…ወዘተ.On the brotherly front (ELF/EPLF) I have concluded it should be put to rest for good. Our interjections should be just to correct factual errors; we should not tempt ourselves into going to interpretations and passing judgments.So, rest assured that the guns in this front are going to fall silent. On the other front too, I hope we will be talking about things we ordinary people could do, building peace. And whenever distortions come up, I guess we have to respond.

    • Tesfabirhan WR

      Dear Mahmuday,

      I am done on my part. I leave the floor to brother Amanuel but of course available for all.

      Huka
      tes

      • Mahmud Saleh

        TES
        It’s one of its kind work. YG likes to swim in ether/plasma where there are no reference points and no anchor; he hypnotizes his disciples within fogs of myriads of concepts and flawless captivating narrative style- good for a weekend pastime, but does little contribution towards alleviating the present problems.He seems to act in reverse: first he asks himself ” Hmm…what do my dependents want me to say?” Then having identified the hot subject of the month he thinks his readers are craving about, he spends a week or so on shopping for a killer topic, then he goes on reconstructing and readjustment of ideas events to fit his already well developed conclusions. It appears it’s OK to him if he does a lazy job of just smoothing out corners to fit his conclusions. In this case, he identified what the hot talk of the moment was “Dejen’s escape,” but such a self-confident, composed, intelligent guy who outsmarted a government did not serve his preconceived notion of Eritreans, he had to falsify and distort all details including biet tmhrti sawra, Dejen’s constant struggle to win his freedom, dejen’s family struggle to find his whereabouts, dejen’s evolutionary progress of thinking towards taking matters in to his hands…all do not fall within what his readers want to hear and within his distorted picture of what a young Eritrean must be. There, he goes to his shopping of hypnotizing and mind-paralyzing titles. As if this is unique to dejen and Eritreans, he calls it a syndrome. Nations and peoples who go through similar situations, and particularly loyal youth and soldiers have displayed similar signs of denial or the hesitation of “There should be an error..this could not be true,etc.” It’s not unique to dejen, therefore, no need to come up with a syndrome. If there are similar situations that have already been identified in literature, you don’t falsify of discovering a new syndrome. In addition, he got all the details he patched up to support his newly found “syndrome” wrong. Obviously he’s got devoted followers since he caters to their expectation, thus, there won’t be attempts of thinking outside the box. Here, you have used a different tool, an analytic tool, and for disentangling his foggy world you deserve an appreciation. Good job.

  • Samuel N.

    Tes,
    You wrote “if we consider this revolution is a disease, then… Dejen [or any tegadalai] is a disease.”
    Dejen is not a disease here but the system and the people are worst than disease.
    They imprisoned the innocent man Dejen for 15 years, the torture they committed on him and his family is beyond words. YG did not call Dejen or Tegadelti a “disease”, that is your own interpretation, but I think Shaebia (the Shaebia that tortures people like Dejen, not the mystical Shaebia that exists in the minds of those that prefer to romanticize Ghedli) is worst than a disease. I think anyone is justified in wishing that Shabia was never born.

    • Tesfabirhan WR

      Dear my friend Sami,

      I want to remind you to hold the brake on the first line, what I said is “IF we consider…” I am not saying the revolution is a disease but if according to YG we put it like that then everything within and the revolution is a disease. For YG the revolution is unnecessary and is then a disease. But for me Revolution came when we start the army struggle against the Ethiopian aggression. And to make successful this struggle revolution was needed and it is done. I understand the bitterness of revolution and all the ups and downs within it. Revolution is revolution.

      Dear Sami, it is shame for you to say, “Dejen is not a disease here but the system and the people are worst than disease.” Kindly avoid the kind of YG’s approach. Dejen is one of those who you are calling the people. Do not pick-point him (mizintal) and make him free of your judgment.

      I can agree with you that the system is yes a disease. But the people are not. How can a good minded people like you whom I know very well for the last 12 years now come and label the people as such. The system is yes the VIRUS who has attacked almost everybody. But the people them selves are not the virus. You can remind me that the virus resides within the people (the degree may vary).

      I will just ask you one question for you but first if you consider the people are the virus themselves do not answer. It is ended there because if the people is a virus like what YG did you will from him and deny, the betrayal.

      If the virus leaves within the people, can we make free these people from this virus?

      hawka
      tes

      • Guest

        Dear Tess,

        Aren’t you acting like a student in a class who likes to sit at the back of the class to avoid questions from directed to him/her. Don’t you have to get a feedback from your readers after writing such an article? I think you should really think about this.

        Hawika,
        Thomas.

        • Tesfabirhan WR

          Dear Thomas,

          I accept your advice and I will improve at my level best. But with Samuel N, we have exchanged before with some comments and now is defaming the people. Sorry but I am not able to stand and killing my emotions while the entire people are just labelled as “Diseases.” But I tried also my best to reason out my argument. can’t you read that.

          With all due respect to my dear Sami, we were always debating since now 2006 and he is one one of my best inspirational friend. Therefore, take it easy. With Sami, though we have different way of analyzing things he is much capable in doing it professionally. I admit for this.

          hawka
          tes

      • Samuel N.

        Thank you for the detailed response. Your theory looks good although I can’t say much just by looking at the diagram. Now to your article.

        Name calling does no good to our cause, so I’ll just opt to never use the term you came up with while analyzing YG (i.e. disease). But name calling aside I am surprised that you are willing to excuse the people that make up the system from the system. And I am surprised your defense of “the people” that make up the system is that some of the people are innocent. Well of course they are, I don’t see how a PFDJ pilot or medical doctor can be accused of a crime that the PFDJ security is doing. But it would be odd if you think when anyone says “the people that make the system” they’re referring to the likes of those poor security guard that is stationed at the Eritrean national bank.

        I think we will just go in circles playing the devils advocate. The system AND the people that make up the system are one and the same. And we both who we mean my the people.

    • Tesfabirhan WR

      Dear Sami,

      This is how I see Eritrean revolution (All revolutions but in particular the EPLF revolution and then after the PFDJ walk)

      have a deep look into my theory and then say what you want to say if you can disqualify my theory. If it is proven true, I will upgrade it to be as a full model.

      [For those familiar with this model, kindly be patient].

      Remark: All my works are revolving around this model and at last I will fully make it. This is my on-going research work parallel to my another Master course (of course in Food Technology) – Just for introduction.

  • Mahmud Saleh

    A,message to Ato T.Kifle:

    How could I put you in the same basket with this hero, look at Amora, even under the threat of immediate death, he never faltered. look how he articulated the question of self-determination, causes of the war and his proposal for lasting peace. Now, you know why I call you neo-TPLFite. I would appreciate if you could say something about him.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTKyryh_A3U

    • T. Kifle

      Arkey Mahmud,

      Ask SAAY and he will hopefully clarify if T. KIfle has a second thought on self-determination of Eritreans

      • Mahmud Saleh

        ዓርከይ t.Kifle;
        Not bad for the notorious T.Kifle.

        • T. Kifle

          Selamat Mahmuday,

          I have not even a single issue against the Eritrean independence be it in the details or generalities. My problem is the unprovoked attack leveled against my country in the least expected time and even more from the least expected side. I do believe that the war(the wars leveled again all neighbors) must have a deeper cause than meets the eye connected to the nature and inheritance of the ruling class in Asmara. You believe the war is caused. I believe quite the opposite. I push my reasoning beyond PFDJ and EPLF, you simply attribute it to an unexpected aberration of PFDJ from the moral values of EPLF. These difference have nothing to do with self-determination of Eritrea but with somehow trying to explain the oddities of this clique who don’t blink an eye to pull the trigger anytime they feel like doing it. I think these differences are healthy and can be narrowed down by further interactions and normalization of relations.

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Arkey T.Kifle;
            I have explained my view on the war, in some Tigrigna articles and on this forum: it was unnecessary. You call it an aggression, but most people including the UN see it as an act of disturbing or taking back a territory that had been administered peacefully, that’s why the intentional court put Badme back to where it belongs. When the war broke, in 1998, several things ran in my mind: lost opportunities that the war could cause, the lives that could perish, involving two brotherly peoples who had fought and bled together, two armies composed of the likes of Amora killing each other,etc. On technicality, here you had a president who was talking about regional integration and the possibility of confederation, a president who had been dismissing border encroachments and hassles by Tigray authorities, suddenly sends out tanks without deliberating it with the National Council or even in small circle with his cabinet; did not call upon international bodies…that was what makes me think it was unwarranted. I believe, Eritrea has lost much more by going to war than it could ever gain even by the returning of Badme. So, I am clear here to you and my friend nitricc. I am not absolving your government, here. Yes, it had the right to reverse the situation but there were opportunities it should have seized to minimize human lives loss, particularly after it had captured Badme and Eritrean government agreement on cessation of hostilities. Obviously, it was on the “punish Eritreans” mode. But that’s a different story and it’s out of our reach. You and me are burning some extra minutes, here, we aren’t in a position to execute proposals, only sovereign authorities can finalize such a big mess; and I am afraid PFDJ and EPRDF aren’t going to rise to that responsibility. Your government refused to abide by the ruling of the border court, and since it’s the darling of the west, I don’t expect much pressure will be put on Ethiopia. So, as far as border issue is concerned, it will be done in a different political climate. Now, my call on you is to come clean on your diagnoses of Eritreans. Either your methods are wrong or your lab is defective. Eritrean ghedli was not a self-destructive epoch, it was, as Amora put it, a reaction of oppressed people; Eritreans had a cause worth fighting for. When Amora was asked if he thought the war would stop, he said that as long as oppression of peoples’ rights continued it won’t. Ghedli ended when it materialized the cause that had triggered it, self-determination. The same happened to Ethiopian ghedli. The destruction you are talking about is a reflection of how Ethiopian rulers had gone to suppress Eritrean right of self-determination. All the villages that were erased from the map, all the innocent people who were brutalized, all the sacrifices tegadalai paid, all the environmental and economic destruction were the result of barbarous policies of Ethiopian regimes to deny us our right to decide our political fate. It was imposed upon us, we were the victims, I don’t think you will blame the people of Tigray..or Hawzien.. and other atrocities as destruction they brought upon themselves by choosing to fight back oppressive regimes.

          • Saleh Johar

            Mahmoud and T. Kifle,
            Given what we know now, that Badme was ruled Eritrean, wouldn’t you think that the ELF was right in claiming it? Also, do you notice that Isaias claimed the same Badme fifteen years later after he relinquished it to the TPLF?

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Ustaz Saleh,
            Now you want to disturb our relative peace with T.Kifle; just a correction: EPLF never relinquished the claim of Badme, but according to the official line, having seen the blood that had been spilled over it because of the battles that raged between ELF and TPLF, it was decided not to waste resources and much needed cooperation of both peoples. In one of the meetings in Mereb, SbHat Efrem told tegadelti who complained about it that we did have colonial maps and historical evidences, and that we could settle it once the common enemy was removed. And I think it was a practical and pragmatic policy at that time. ELF,of course, was right in claiming it, but I won’t go into judgement about the steps it took to assert its presence there, you know it better than me.

          • Semere Andom

            Wo Melhey Mahmudya:
            Corrections and more ammuntions for making me older than you and for my ELF pedigree 🙂
            EPLF did indeed relinquish Badme, or even worse gave it as bribe to TPLF not only that IA openly said before the names of the martyrs were announced that he does not care about borders, now that our we have accomplished our self determination even some confederation is not bad idea. The warsay even joke about that they were trying to liberate the land that theYkalo left without liberating.
            Although I admire your for your clarity on many issue still there are traces to cleanse the EPLF in you, few Romadans will do it:-)
            Any official line, any claim by EPLF/PFDJ about caring about blood spilled is false, they never cared, that is why my future book will be titled: “How the EPLF un emancipated women and un liberated the land and enslaved the population”
            Sal is allowed to change the title when he is recruited as an editor to remove wed abuye Andom rants 🙂

          • T. Kifle

            Dear Semere,

            You are wrong on the account “..EPLF did indeed relinquish Badme, or even worse gave it as bribe to TPLF…”. The truth is EPLF and TPLF agreed to solve any territorial claims after the regime gets toppled. Until then, the fronts agreed to rally the people living in the areas they liberated from time to time which were under the then respective administrations of Eritrea and Tigray . They also agreed in the principle that delimitation is something that should be done by legally established governments. It’s your assumption that TPLF fought EPLF’s war and awarded Badme.

          • Semere Andom

            Hi T.Kifle:
            I may have employed some hyperbole to make the point that EPLF did not really care about how much blood was spilled and therefore differed the Badme issue. EPLF never really cared about how many litters of Eritrean blood is spilled if something suited and benefited their agenda. I wanted to ridicule that point in the same vein I ridiculed the idea that it was inconceivable for IA to have deliberately bombed the school during the last carnage because it was not prudent to do so in terms of wasting bombs that may otherwise be used for attacking military targets.
            I believe and you can correct be if am wrong that TPLF always shrewdly and successfully played EPLF
            After the intense love affair ended, the TPLF undermined EPLF by smuggling Eritreans who wanted to dodge EPLF to the Tigray liberated areas and indoctrinated them for 6 months and then drove them to Sudan
            when TPLF was ready to push and liberate Tigray they needed EPLF and then courted them and EPLF capitulated . EPLF in my opinion never ever negotiated anything that benefited the Eritrean people since its inception, but I do not want you to comment on this, give us our privacy:-)
            Let the romantics who do not tire to make noises about the redeeming qualities of EPLF tackle it 🙂
            Then in the finale of dysfunction romance TPLF lead government at their time of their choosing, in the political climate of their choosing stimulated IA to start the war that has become his Badme (his waterloo). Master piece
            Sem

          • saay7

            Wo Semere:

            Hatte…kle…seles…arbaE…Hams…sess…sebE….

            This is my new exercise whenever the issue of ምቅንጃው ወያነ shows up. Count to 10 and let Mahmuday deal with it:)

            How is that reportage coming along? Nitricc and I are running out of popcorn.

            saay

          • Semere Andom

            Teg Sal:
            Ebelta Afet 🙂
            I want a “shimagle” composed of Emma, SGJ and Serray and to balance it Nitricc and TK if I am Woyane romantic, although our mutual friend BY always tells me I am a romantic of the USA founding fathers and sometimes it he says of the USA in general, he calls USA my country 🙂
            The equation is wrong because I say if you are Ghedli romantic you are automatically Woyane Romantic.
            As to Nitricc please abruk belo enbah keybil
            are you denying the facts I said about TPLF?

          • Rahwa T

            Dear Semera,

            I have no good knowledge of the TPLF-EPLF relationship. So please allow me to ask you some explanations on few points in your comment. When was the “intense love affair” you are refereeing? Is that the time when both fronts allied to see off ELF
            from the field towards Sudan? When you say “ …when TPLF was ready to push and
            liberate Tigray they needed EPLF…”, am I reading you confidence in your comment
            on who approach who first and raised the idea of forming joint attack against the common enemy? Thanks

          • Semere Andom

            Hi Rahwa
            On the intense love affair your assumption is correct except the mildness of the “see off”
            On the second one, I vividly remember when TPLF first aired their readiness to talk to EPLF on their radio in 1988 and EPLF replied in kind after their stupid assertion of chosen silence. But I have no clue about the closed door deals before the public radio announcement

          • T. Kifle

            Dear SGJ
            and Mahmud,
            It definitely was wrong. The whole Eritrea was under Ethiopian administration. All the fronts had no mandate to negotiate territories be it right or wrong.Of course the same illegal procedure had been followed even after 1991 as the referendum was conducted under and by both unelected governments. But the problem with ELF was not only Badme. Badme was a ploy but the main agenda ELF had been pushing was to eliminate TPLF altogether with visible patronizing and help to EDU, TLF and EPRP. EPLF didn’t forgone Badme at the time but had the same position as TPLF did.

          • Semere Andom

            Dear Gadi:
            every every word, every line in this comment is absolutely correct. The citizens who complained about it were chastised by EPLF. Now Mahmuday will make more wrong assumptions about me of being aligned wth ELF:-)

          • Saleh Johar

            Semere, welcome back but don’t put me in trouble, please.

            You know what happened the last time the TPLF and EPLF forged an alliance, they drove us out of our country.

            I do not want to provoke them to recreate the alliance again (T. Kifle and Mahmoud, don’t read please), this time it will not be the Sudan, the only choice if either the Pacific or Atlantic oceans. eh’ew!

            Forget the title for your book, I am nodding my head. Just when the problems were begining to brew around Badme, I was there, for months. Later on, one of my best friends was in charge of security (read intelligence) of the area. I know the lion killer Hanetas, the settlers, and the indigenous natives of the area. I am not sure if Mahmoud or T.Kifle have first hand knowledge of what happened, it would be disappointing if their knowldge is derived from “metsher hzbawi mnnqqaH” : or a variation of that 🙂

            Now let me go back to nodding my head, I was fine when I chose magnanomity until you came back. You should have stayed longer.

            Mahmoud and T. Kifle, please, please, please, for God’s sake, don’t entertain the idea of the Pacific or Atlantic, don’t be tempted less they brand you terrorists 🙂

            Long live EPLF-EPLF alliance of the past, and happy sleep in its grave.

          • T. Kifle

            Arkey Mahmud,

            I think we have discussed this issue so much and it seems we are in a dead end. It would be better to call it a day as you are still in searching explanations around the bush instead of calling the devil by its proper name. The problem is you are not alone. It’s not even a minority opinion and that’s what makes it disturbing. The good thing is it’s a problem now under the bridge.

      • saay7

        Selamat T.Kifle:

        I have listened to the advice of Haile The Great and decided to abstain from the EPLF-TPLF lovers feud that you and Mahmouday are having. However, with respect to what you have written here (not on Tigraionline), the jury is out as you have said things about Eritreans (without qualifying it) that, had an Eritrean said about Tigrayans, would have warranted a warning from the moderators, including me.

        saay

        • T. Kifle

          Dear SAAY,

          MG, That means I solicited a wrong witness. I don’t remember crossing any of the posting guidelines but if unknowingly I did, it never been my intention. I have already made it clear that when I write about “Eritreans” in connection with their view of Ethiopia, it has always meant the view of the opinion shapers: the mainstream political elites. SGJ objected that there is no such thing as an “Eritrean view”. I understand the inconvenience this kind of assertion entails, but its a reality-it exists.

          Mahmud simply mixes the political undertones and narratives that gave raise to ghedli with attempts of amicably solving a problem that sapped a nation of all its belongings: human and material. We don’t necessarily agree on the causes. But we are in the same page on the solution. That was my call for you SAAY, as I thought you understood me better. In any case flag the signals when I ever cross the redlines. I would be fine with it.

          • saay7

            Selamat T.Kifle:

            Making a call on who is violating the posting guidelines is a tough one, particularly when you have long-time contributors like you. Often, I give you the benefit of doubt because we all use short hand: saying Eritreans is easier than “the opinion shapers of Eritrea.” But this is the one that perplexed me:

            “The Kebesas were happy with the abolition of the federation but the lowlander had a field day and resorted to their gun-toting moods. Serray’s assertion of the armed struggle was “against the Eritreans” as much it was “against the Ethiopians” is a perfect description of that part of history.

            http://awate.com/isis-israel-gunay-and-gedli-defamers/#comment-1511328527

            Do you really think the “lowlanders” raised arms on September 1 because of their “gun-toting moods?” Do you really think it was directed at Eritreans as much as it was against Ethiopian rulers?

            saay

          • T. Kifle

            Dear SAAY,

            I stand corrected. It seems anger took its toll when I made such kind of comment. One visible problem is my lack of articulation that fits the fine minds from ስግሪ ባሕሪ. In any case, I will be careful and qualify my assertions hereafter if my transgressions don’t cause me a ban from the Awate court.

            regards

          • Saleh Johar

            T. Kifle, it is when you make such comments that you shine. Please adhere to what you stated below.

            I was so offended that you consider my elders “went to their gun totting mood” when all I know is they were brave enough to decide to end oppression.

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Arkey T.Kifle;
            A wise gesture of you. Your next stop is at Dr.Fanti Ghana clinic, you will need a comprehensive exam, then to agent SAAY station for a lie detector, the rehab process is longer for habitual offenders but we will help you with Aman Hidrat preparing his concoction which will help you cope with the dreadful Eri-allergent, and Rahwa taking you through the ዕጣን rituals. Remember that behavior change begins with avoiding places…recreations…associated with the behavior you want to change. In this case the Honorable SJG issued a restriction of not visiting YG bar till your next evaluation. Good luck.

          • saay7

            Wo Mahumday:

            Meetu eli “lie detector” jini Efreet? La inas samHuni bela yikon? Khelas, enteha almewduE. Your peace club is incomplete without T.Kifle. Lie detector tests are incompatible with a peace club as the latter assumes goodwill. No?

            saay

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Haadr ya ustaz, accepted.

          • T. Kifle

            My friend Mahmud,

            You never catch me lying anywhere on any subject. If you are serious by what you think I am, that would be disturbing and unrespectful. Nothing is worst than believing there is only one truth and that you are the only owner of it. Focus on the debate, please if you may. You must be naive to believe YG shapes my political takes on Eritrea. What is more? Old habits die hard: Deprivation of information is part of a solution in totalitarian entities. That’s what you are conveying to the Awatistas when you call in YG unnecessarily and I would add; repeatedly. Leave the man alone. Try if you can engage him through counter articles. Honestly speaking I don’t have preference of YG over SGJ or SAAY or the great writers at Awate or elsewhere. I enjoy their writings almost equally. I enjoyed reading SG’s books(Kings and Bandits and Meriam was Here shipped to me from a good friend in Canada), learned a lot from his superb narrative skills. It also helped me to gauge the tolls on human trafficking and the plight of Eritrean girls under the cruel military commanders(aka liberators).

            Don’t waste your time to engage me if you think I am the person that you many times would love to portray. This, I guess, seem a best policy.

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Arkey T.Kifle;
            ዕርክነትና ቀጻላይ እዩ። I think the word “wise” threw you off; I meant the word “labam” I was referring to your gesture or your reply as a wise, in its positive sense, not in its sinister meaning. So, let’s put the rest to rest as the jury will always be around. The rest was meant to humor you, again I failed.

          • abrham

            Dear Mahmud

            You too need at Dr Fanti and Horizon Higher clinic to get out from your emotional and provocative presentations. Oh you should also be examined your self superiority complex by not other than Aman Hidrat & Kokhob Selam(The very man I admire).

          • desta

            Hey SAAY
            Have you read the book(in Amharic) by Ambassador Zewde Reta? In that books the author claims to be near to Ethiopian and Eritrean officials of the time. He wrote that at first the kebesa were happy with the abolition but Haile Sellasie betrayed them by giving the power to a Shoan and muslims. Even he claims a police officer committed suicide after looking how they were betrayed. Will be happy to have your view.

          • saay7

            Selamat Desta:

            Yes, I have read Ambassador Zewde Reta’s “Ye Ertra Guday.” It is extremely well written piece of advocacy over which, of course, there are differences of interpretation.

            Two examples. He makes the point that “Mahber Fiqre Hager” was by far the largest party without disclosing that before it morphed into “Mahber Andnet/Hebret”, “Fiqre Hager” meant love of Eritrea and it included in its membership people like Ibrahim Sultan. Instead of disclosing that Mahbre Fiqre Hager morphed into an “Ethiopia Wey Mot” party, he describes Ibrahim Sultan as an opportunist who switched sides.

            There is also a differences in the circumstances that led to the death of the police chief, Tedla Oqbit.

            There is no disagreement that the Kebessa Christian elite (and therefore the constituency they heavily influenced) and the Lowlander Muslim Shmagele elite (without their constituency whom they could not have represented because of the emancipation of Tigre serfs from the grip of the Shmagle, engineered by Ibrahim Sultan) supported Haile Selasse for any number of reasons. What he leaves out is that within 6 years of Eritrea’s annexation, they had shifted their allegiance not because of who the Emperor was favoring but whom he was brutally murdering (women and children burned alive): their own countrymen in the lowland.

            Now wait for Eyob’s spin:) Eyob, I particularly like the part of the book which documents the battle of wits between Ibrahim Sultan and the Ethiopian delegation to the UN. When they tell him that Eritrea could not be viable because it doesn’t have educated folk, he says, well, 3 of the 5 members of the Ethiopian delegation are of Eritrean origin and I expect them to come home and build their nation:)

            saay

          • desta

            Thank you for your response. Haha and I Iike your remark on Eyob’s spin. By the way, in most Ethiopian areas I know, Eritreans were more civilized (well I am Ethiopian and this is true) and run businesses. bakery, small industries(shurab sira, we had ye asmera shurab) university students, …. Let alone the Ethiopian delegation, even the Ethiopian team who won the african cup of nation consists mostly of Eritreans right?

          • abinet

            “More civilized ?” What else is new? We have heard it all. They even showed us how to eat pasta. In case you forgot they didn’t want to unite with backward Ethiopia. You remind me gebretinsae tedla, the bakery owner around Teklehimanot area. Yes, that guy , the one single handedly brought civilization to Ethiopia.
            Yes, they were privileged in their short stay in Ethiopia . It was to win their heart . It didn’t work . I remember derg used to air lift everything to Eritrea even if there was shortage everywhere else.
            Yes they are so advanced , I have to admit, that sometimes I think they are from another planet. Otherwise, how come they organize parties and festivals while their people are dieing and suffering as we speak.
            As to me, I prefer humanity than any civilization copied from a colonizer.

          • Rahwa T

            Good reply, Abinet, for boot-licking-comments such as of the above. “”እንካንሰ ዘንቦብሽ እንዲያውም ጤዛ ነሽ” አሉ::

          • abinet

            Rahwa nefse,
            negeru min meselesh?
            Ager siyarej, jart yabeqlal mehonu new

          • Shum

            Hello Abinet,

            Why are you directing your anger towards Eritreans? Desta, an Ethiopian, made the comment. And judging from his follow up, he probably meant to say Eritreans were advancing economically and other ways, not that they were better.

            Instead of asking for clarification or confronting him, you go off on ALL Eritreans. I’ve seen quite a few of your posts. One would think Dergue was a group of nuns in a charity the way you describe them. Ask Eritreans and Tigrayans what they thought of Dergue. You’re too one sided. From Desta’s exchange with Saleh, this comment offended you more than Saleh’s comment about women and children being burned alive. That’s very telling.

            Regarding the festivals, most participants on this forum are not happy about these parties and festivals that you cite. Don’t you see the headline news on Awate about people opposing them? Who are you talking to, brother? Did you attend any festivals during the Dergue years when people were suffering? Also am I right to infer that Eritreans have no humanity? What civilization did we copy from a colonizer? Please school me.

          • desta

            Sorry, Abinet, if I offended you. I am not saying which one is good between humanity and civilization. I am thankful of those Ethiopians who died to defend the country. I also believe we were left more backward than most Africans because we were not colonized (still I am not saying we should have been colonized.) we know how Italians constructed huge infrastructure in 5 years occupation, and of course they also killed our educated ones and ordinary civilians. I think things have advantages and disadvantages. Eritreans have beautiful Asmara partly because of Italy and we have UN, AU offices due to Adwa, right?

          • abinet

            We have the AU office in Addis because of adwa. That is absolutely right . Because of our heroes who defended the country from colonizers throughout our history, we are the only one never been colonized. I know you are sad because we missed the chance to be advanced. Your ignorance has no limit. You mentioned about the beautiful asmara. Asmara was not built for eritreans. They were needed just to clean it and keep it beautiful for the masters.
            FYI, have you ever noticed the flgs of most African countries? It has green yellow and red. You know why? They copied from us because it was only Ethiopia which has it’s own flag.
            I am always great full for those heroes who died for us .God bless them.
            Yes we have AU in Addis because of ADWA.

          • Shum

            Abinet, didn’t slaves exist in Ethiopia during that time or do they not count? In a kingdom, aren’t the people, subjects of the king? It’s fine to be proud of your history. But don’t sh*t on us like your sh*t don’t stink.

          • abinet

            Yes . There were slaves throughout the world at those times including Ethiopia until emperor(Emye) Menelic officiall bbanned it centuries ago. What is beyond imagination is there is slavery in 21st century eritrea. You need a leader like Menelic badly. I remember Haile Menkorios in a press conference in Ghion hotel saying “egna selasa amet yetewaganew lebarinet aydelem.” Talk about sh*t! Little did he know what was in stored for eritrean population. Slavery.

          • Eyob Medhane

            Abi,

            የኔ ባትሆን ይቆጨኝ ነበር::

            Wait…you mean Haile Menkorios the South African? Yup. I am not joking. He is now a South African. Ban Ki Moon has appointed him as his special representative to African Union in Addis Ababa, as a South African. That chump was a major pain on the *** for Ethiopia as a founder of one of the most vicious and ideologically corrupt political party called MEISON, as an Ethiopian, he was one of the enemies that bled Ethiopia for the better of two decades working for Shabia, as an Eritrean, and sucking on the UN bosom as an American (once on interview, he was saying “we westerners” 🙂 ) and then now he declares he’s South African. You learn the opportunistic nature of Shabians from a character like him and Bereket Habteselassie. They have no principles. I watched a video the other day, where Bereket was apologizing to the Afar people for not including their interests in the 1997 constitution, and in this very website he wrote an article, which he derided the “Christian centeric regime of King Haileselassie”, as if he himself was not a part of it. He was the attorney general of Emperor Haileselassie, for God sake…..These are the kinds of people, who want to lecture us about ‘dignity’, ‘principle’…and lots of blahs……

          • abinet

            Eyobe,
            I have no word to describe them. Haile took money laundry to the next level when he was an ambassador. Bereket is the most untrustworthy creature in the world. He has no principle at all . We all know what he did as AG. He sells his soul for the devil himself. What is very sad is these supposed to be the creme of the society. I call them esistoch.
            I didn’t know that haile changed his citizenship. But, it doesn’t surprise me for a second. Because he has no eritrea in his heart only hatred to others. In my opinion, the root cause of everything.

          • desta

            Abinet, let us control our emotions and discuss the issues politely. BZW I believe our main problem in the horn is lionizing our leaders. Unfortunately, ones best leader is the others worst enemy even in the same country. It might be difficult but I will be happy to analyze in what people really did. And Menilik was one of the slave traders, right? Well he also band it and the establishment of central government by him significantly decreased the number of slaves as the war between different groups was the main source of slaves. My point is let us not make it competition. We take good deeds and bad ones as well

          • Saleh Johar

            Abinet, slavery was abolished in the 30s, after the return of Hailesellassie. Until then it flourished. It was not banned during Mineliks time. You might want to check that out.

          • Eyob Medhane

            Gash Saleh,

            Abinet is right. Emperor Menelik issued an edict to ban slavery, and that is how Ethiopia became a member of the league of nation. During Empress Zewditu’s era (his daughter) the then regent of her crown Ras Teferi Mekonen (later emperor Haileselassie) had presented that edict to the league of nation and made Ethiopia a member of it….

          • Saleh Johar

            Eyob, you are becoming a slave driver yourself, now you want me to open old boxes…please save me that and refer to Bahru Zewde, I am almost sure it is him, in one of his books, one of the best I ever read on the history of the region. While you are at it, what was the slave quarters, an entire neighberhood where the freed slaves lived after slavery was abolished by Haile Sellasie? It is in Addis, but find out for yourself 🙂

          • Shum

            Let me try a different format to see if I can get my point across better. I really want to have a fruitful exchange. First,I’ll address your immediate reply and see if I can make you understand why I replied to you in the first place.

            1. Menelik did not stop slavery. He expanded it. You can read about this from multiple
            sources. Click on this URL http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Ethiopia
            and you’ll see that Menelik expanded slavery. Here’s one of the quotes from there “Menelik
            II and Queen Taitu personally owned 70,000 slaves.” If you have an aversion to foreign sources, like Eyob, I’m certain there are Ethiopian sources than can vouch for this.

            2. Slavery was ended by Haile Selassie. And he did it to gain acceptance into League
            of Nations and also due to pressure from Western powers.

            3. Menelik didn’t care about Eritrea. He didn’t consider the people there Habesha
            but a land of Adals, Tigre and Beja or something to that effect.

            4. Some consider Menelik’s actions during the period when King Yohannes was fighting the Mahdists and Italians as treachery. He endeared himself to Italians to gain power is how some see it. Of course, once he learned of their true designs, he took the right actions to defend his
            country.

            5. I don’t like our government one bit, but I don’t want to replace them with another slaver. I
            don’t think you would want him either.

            6. Eritrean people are not living in great conditions. I also consider the actions taken by PFDJ as modern day slavery.

            7. Most Eritreans who show up on this forum are here to talk about these problems, share news and discuss solutions and their aspirations for Eritrea to do better. Most of us are frustrated that we can do little to stop PFDJ because we live in other parts of the world. Some
            of us choose to expose the regime through activism and reporting. Others visit forums like this because we care about our country and want to express ourselves and gain knowledge.

            8. I’m glad that Eritreans and Ethiopians on this forum can discuss, learn and debate their points of view. I’ve learned quite a bit from Horizon, TKifle (minus last week), Fanti Ghana and others. But when I read your posts and some other, I get a difference sense. It’s not all of the time, but enough to register a response on this forum. Here are some of the general type of remarks

            a. You guys wanted independence, you got it and now you’re enslaved. It’s almost like you
            delight in it. Countries like ours (yours included) go through bad times, but we don’t question our desire to be a country. Neither do you. There’s no need to put our desire to be
            independent to our life under a dictatorship. Dictatorships are not an Eritrean design. We have it for millennia in our part of the world.

            b. You talk about Dergue as if they put Eritreans on a pedestal. But you completely
            ignore the fact that they were raining bombs and making life miserable for us and many others, including Ethiopians. There’s a reason why there were multiple rebellions not just TPLF and EPLF.

            c. You bring up things to us as if this is not an opposition website. You ask us about people
            dancing while our people are suffering. You completely overlook people who are demonstrating in front of these festivals. People were suffering during Dergue time, did you ever find yourself dancing and enjoying yourself during those years?

            9. Now go back to your reply to Desta, an Ethiopian. He made a comment which, if taken out of context, can be offensive. But he explained himself. It’s fine you addressed him, but again, you had to find a way to poke Eritreans in the eye. It had nothing to do with us, but you found your sweet spot, didn’t you.

          • Saleh Johar

            Excellent Shum, thanks for expanding it….
            By the way, why have you boycotted me for a decade?

          • Shum

            Boycott? Men eluka? I refresh this page 100 times a day, almeno. I stopped being public and writing for complicated reasons.

          • Saleh Johar

            I was kidding about the boycott, glad to know the reason and that you are fine…
            No problem as far as you stay public here, at least I will know you are fine.

  • Tesfabirhan WR

    Dear Salamawi,

    thank you for the notes and I have all the references. I will put them in my second paper. Keep in touch. regarding my statement, I hope you come across how haw Thomas tried to direct my proofs for what I said. If I say this and that may be some may not grasp it. Anyhow, I would like to ask you the same question that I have asked to Thomas.

    If YG denies that Eritrea is not a colonial legacy and the armed struggle that started in 1961 was just a mistake. I came to meet people who have a belief that Eritrea got separated from Ethiopia in 1991 and these people were living in Eritrean region with the greater almighty Ethiopia. If so, can’t we say that they were Ethiopians and still they believe so but forced to be separated, just like Crimea of Ukraine? If in the future something favorable political environment occured these people are more than happy to raise the Ethiopian flag.

    I am not saying that YG is rejecting the current status of Eritrea but what he regrets is for this happening as he believe that Eritrea was part of Ethiopia till 1991 and is the result of civil war that broke between same people. And for his regret, now he is looking for possible Re-Union of these two countries (Neo-Unionist). YG does not believe that a country called Eritrea existed since 1890. He asserts that people who were not happy with Emperor Hailessilasie broke the civil war and all the end result is what it happened. From this angle he dismisses the necessity of Gedli and all the 30 years bloody war.

    Does it make sense now?

    hawka
    tes

    • abinet

      Tes,
      I appreciate your effort , and courage to challenge YG. It is , by any measure, not an easy task. I hope you read most of his articles .
      I understand you have a deep knowledge and understanding of the history of the two countries. As far as your experience and then your reading iscconcerned, how would you define colonization in relation to the two countries? And also, if you don’t mind, compare and contrast ethiopian colonization to that of Italian colonization . I and million others never believed even for a second that Ethiopia colonized Eritrea.
      Thanks

      • Tesfabirhan WR

        Dear abinet,

        Pardon?

        Ethiopians can not be said they colonized Eritrea. They annexed it and from day one are never welcomed. May be the first day the wicked emperor Hailesslassie crossed Mereb can be considered the golden hour for Ethiopia but then after are confronted by gun.

        If we see the definition of colonization, Ethiopia, by all measures can not be measured as a colonizer but a country that annexed another country.

        This was the period under Ethiopian Annexation Period (1962-1991). remember, Eritreans seeing all the developments that Ethiopia was going had started earlier in 1961 an armed struggle and the annexation came effective in 1962.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6mGIeD3DJo#t=430

        hawka
        tes

        • abinet

          Tes,
          I am having difficulty understanding what you are trying to say. Are you saying that the years b/n 1962-1991 , Eritrea saw all the developments? Please tell me more .
          The 60 min documentary is interesting and I have seen it before. I hope Mr Galloway make another one showing the current situation. But my question is what happened to those men and women , who were so caring in those difficult times? What happened to the guy on the clip when he and his friends took power? How it is possible to make a drastic change just after 1991? Is it just a bad luck?
          Thanks

          • Tesfabirhan WR

            Dear abinet,

            When I say all the developments what I mean is the revolutionary and war time side. Hope you will not take it an economic development.

            On the second point, it was not a bad luck. It was a betray of the armed struggle objective. How our struggle was betrayed? dear abinet, you better can explain well. After independence, the successors of the revolution continued their rule of the jungle and instead of forming a government composed of all the people of Eritrea they chose a totalitarian and dictatorial system which is controlled under the system that they maintained throughout the revolution. Therefore, it is not of bad luck but of bad choice of the system and hence I oppose the system but I do not curse it. I am young and it is shame for me to curse or say bad luck like that. I believe the system is changeable if all concerned people who are not happy with this totalitarian system come together and rebuff it.

            hawka
            tes

          • abinet

            Tes, thank you for your reply. Now I kniw why things are bad in Eritrea. It is in short the continuation of the dictatorial system that has been exersised in the revolution. I think yg calls it “temokro meda”. You seem to agree with him for a change .
            good job!

  • Mahmud Saleh

    Hello Sem A;
    Nitrric will have a meal, you made it easy for him; go for the kill Nitrric. But honestly what a life changing ghettos? One visit made all this miracle? I can picture a widely drawn grin on TK face. Where have you been isolated Semere A? I have been frantically calling your attention to the failure of traditional opposition in attracting youth. It’s simple SemA. For a movement to attract followers, it needs the following elements:
    1. A clarity of mission: What’s that we want to do. OK, this is simple, you can vaguely say, we want to:
    a/ dismantle the system
    b/ reform it
    c/ a combination (my mission, ቱታ…እናሸንፋለን!), that’s when people of good heart build a consensus through civil dialogues. Remember, you can’t prescribe what type and structure of government you’re going to build before you bring people together. It’s up to Eritreans inside the country and their representative legislature what to do with crucial decisions including PFDJ and Issayas, etc. Diaspora is of course part of the process and could play a crucial role if it holds its acts together, that’s if it presents a starkly different unified organ compared to PFDJ in its behavior which should include practical practices of democratic principles, just methods of running business within itself and a moderate and humble approach of fanning out that reputation throughout its communities. It also needs a political orientation grounded on sound national interests, an opposition that seeks international cooperation and friendship while keeping its independence.
    2. A clarity of program: a program that reflects 1(c)
    3. A charismatic and visionary leader: Borrow charisma fro IA (ኢሰያስ ኣፈወርቂ ተኻላኻላይ ታንኪ፡ ንስኻ ትጋደል ኣደኻ ትበኪ። Honestly, combine that with neo-IA traits, a visionary that is up to 21st century needs, a statesman/woman that is up to our today’s challenges; let’s try a woman this time, I mean it, the men have been failure. The preceding points and the last paragraph of this comment will be incorporated in to Mahmuday manifesto.
    Now back to you, first of all you have been missed on this forum. Second, get ወረቐት ጣዕሳ from the consular office near you and head to Asmara. tes will give you the direction to Nakfa social science school (aka እንዳ ካድር); if a visit to Rome has made this change on your thinking, a week there will completely make you a barking PFDJite. As Nitrric would say “there you have it my man.”
    On a sober note though: ኣብሽር ያ ሰመረ፡ don’t lose your bearing, don’t blame those young people, blame yourself and diaspora opposition for not winning their confidence. I am counting on you, you may intellectually entertain YG writings but believe on the basics: we are not inherently defective as my friend TK has boldly said it (he will live regretting it). This is a huge task, read HTG analysis of our current political contouring. It’s a real fight. Whoever wins the hearts and minds of these youth will write the final chapter of our history. Be from the writers of 21st century edition of our history, and not from the disciples of discarded narration of history based on 70 years old edition of Eritrean political climate. I will do my best to answer the call you made upon me in your beautiful Arabic poem.

    • Nitricc

      Mahmud I read what Semere has to say and I smiled. It took for Semere to fly over Atlantic Ocean to understand the situation yet, Nitricc figured it out from his comfort in the USA. I had written few lines of chosen words for Semere then I remembered what the great SAAY once said to me. ” be humble” and that is what I am going to do, be that. I decided not to post it.
      So, Mahmud, no need to go for the kill the truth will shoot everyone in do time. For now, let’s get Semere off that crazy YG’s bus he is on.

      • Mahmud Saleh

        Ahlan/hello Nitricc;
        It’s time we started “Save Semere” campaign.

    • Semere Andom

      Teg Mahmuad”
      If Nitricc is smiling for this, it proves my point, he is intellectually fragile. I am blaming ghedli and tegadelti for this, for a job done bad. Opposition diaspora or not has nothing to do with this. It is also not the fault of the opposition for this predicament, to win hearts there must be hearts first
      For nitricc to gloat over this fact, he has not multiplied the number of cells. It is not funny.
      It is not that they like Pfdj, it is worse than that, what ever rises is our sun and who ever clown is is crowned is our kings. YG is not to blame. It affirms that in the last 20 years the kids were taught to be gun tooting, button pushing and gratification seeking lot and you can deduce that back to the Sahel. simple
      with Nitric we will talk when his triple his wohayotat

      • Mahmud Saleh

        Semere A
        Are you back? May be the hot Mediterranean weather is doing its job. We will do the poletikawi mnQQaH when I know you are back. It’s a tried trick of straightening you up. If that doesn’t work, then you will be handed over to Halewa sawra.

        • saay7

          Mahmuday:

          iTgadela Semere is still shaking his head at the Eritrean youth in Italy. And like a very good opposition activist is blaming it on everybody else (Ghedli, Tegadelti, the victims themselves) for the youths decidedly slow evolution.

          Here an uncomfortable question Sem. When Nitricc said that the victims of Lamedusa are partly to blame for their predicament, the Awate Forum rose in unison to curse him. So when u are blaming the survivors of Lamedusa are partly to blame for their belief system, how is that different from what Niticc said, other than the obvious (one group is dead, another group survived many deaths.)

          No no no Nitricc: not yet. For now, you and I just sit in the front row and get your popcorn:) Sem and Mahmuday got this.

          saay

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Abusalah;
            Good question. He’s got a lot to answer. Semere wed Andom, eb salametka OQbl, teHadso is waiting for you.

          • Semere Andom

            Ya selam ya munadle Sal:
            In my comment I never said they told me they left because of economic reasons that is what your prodigy Nitricc has said and everyone including you read that message in my comment. They say they left actually not for economic reasons, whether they are telling the truth is debatable matter. They said they left because they were tired of the repressive regime, get that 3 of you. If the retards here tell them they came for ipads they will literally do what Nitricc what the youth did to Gaddaffi. And I am not guessing, I asked them that questions.
            So, Sal , no, no yet do not celebrate they did not leave for better life, they actually say that the national services made them tenacious to withstand harsh environments and triumph and they are proud they served as no service goes unrewarded, verbatim, abzi wey ab semay
            But the overriding theme is these youth is they have no sense of justice, they are self serving, unlike those who started the Ghedli, they are gratification seeking and there is one common theme that inflicted this to them: tegadallti and Ghedli, it is the only environmental change that happened between your generation add mine, same society, same Eritrean parents, same culture until tegadalti came, and am on record delineating ghedli and tegadalti and so on. This is the uncomfortable fact. You misunderstood, or most likely I did not articulate it well
            Buddy, sorry your angel investment on Nitrcc will go bust.:-)
            One get away message is this youth did not inherit the traits of the path finders of our Ghedli, the youth way younger than them who debated in Adobah congress like AZ had said, but they inherited the traits of the tegadalti who are calling the shots right now and who instilled them the unbecoming of the truth Ghedli. That is the uncomfortable, Sir.
            Sem

          • saay7

            Wo Sem Wed Andom:

            I am minding my own business, in the front seats, listening to the debate between you and Mahmuday:) I have even gently tapped the knees of Camel Nitricc and he is kneed. Carry on your debate with Mahmouday and explain how the disenchanted youth have no sense of justice. Hnna gsuyam hlenna…meemTaE Mahmouday metSaka hala shud Heylek:)

            saay

          • Semere Andom

            Hi Sal:
            Seni, seni gomatka atenseko
            wo egl Nitricc “abruk belo, enbaH kybil 🙂

  • Tesfabirhan WR

    And just to refer what the situation back home is have sometime with this North Korean film. Despite the infrastructure all else remains in the same line,

    Agriculture and technology,

    Power Cut-offs

    Students and access to internet

    Food and nutrition

    taboos to open leadership criticism etc. are of exact copy to that of Eritrea

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMfbohNGT1w

  • Tesfabirhan WR

    Dear Semere,

    I completely agree with you that Dejen Syndrome has nothing to do with the man Dejen. This was my initial argument. I will come up with my second part in order to have a complete view but in the mean while I agree with your take though I object YG’s fallacy. You have mentioned on th youths failure to identify the main cause but rather blame for USA and likes. This is the success of the brainwash of PFDJ ideology. Look on the North Korean mindset and what we PFDJ trying to install is almost the same though he is not successful.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0QVkf-B0qc

    Look, this is PFDJ’s strategy but the people are higher than this.PFDJ partially succeeded in implementing his ideology (copied) to those young people who stayed one year in Sawa and likes and this is what we see now in our youths despite their search for freedom.

    hawka
    tes

  • Thomas

    Hi SAAY,

    Don’t you think the show we have at Awate.com is the show about nothing, like the Seinfeld show:) We are debating about extensive/lots of issues that we don’t happen to come to resolve… The show about everything happened/happening in our country (past/current situations/policies – in dating/MI with his puppets talking about nothing which makes to think something is going but actually nothing is debated) and so on……….

    • saay7

      Hi Thomas:

      Seinfeld Shows’ reputation as a show about nothing was made by its creator, Larry David, who, in a pitch meeting with NBC executives who asked him what the show is about, told them that. In reality, as Larry David himself demonstrated in his own show (“Curb Your Enthusiasm”), the show is about life. Life is not always about peaks and valleys, it has no soundtrack and no soup nazis: just small victories, small disappointments, big dreams, and rare gems.

      Awate is as Papillon calls it our abode. It’s where we try to attract people with diverse opinions practicing the art of discourse. It’s not an activism bulletin board, though we have activists; it’s not a stand-up club, though we have comedians; it’s not a debating society, though we have debaters; it’s not a book club, though we have authors; it’s not a news journal, though we have citizen reporters; it’s not a poets hangout, though we have poets. It’s life being lived; it is a multi-cultural, multi-lingual (Tigrinya, Tigrayit, Blin, Arabic, Amharic) crowd-sourced diary of free Eritreans and Ethiopians. That’s what makes it different. That and LT of course.

      saay

      • Saleh Johar

        Saay I am passing to you a message from someone who I believe is impersonating LT.

        “The shoes on the back with spinal cord and shoe laces full of cones be it ice cream. Slrpie the strong begining no man’s land. Get it alone that one not I throw?”

        Please translate….

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Hey Saleh,

          I will be surprised if Saay untangled this conjugated irreducible words to make sense out of it.

        • Ermias

          Saleh, I would like to help SAAY with this one or better yet compete with him on the best translation (and get my behind handed to me as they say in sports). But was this message on an email or what? Without any context, I would be surprised too if Sal can bring out something of any sense out of this. What an enigma!

        • saay7

          SGJ:

          This is what happens when people have football clashes and animal testing. Please “stop your animal testing and football clashes” as Prophet LT warned once.

          Until Ermias comes with something better, I have to once again revert to Prophet LT whenever I am stumped. This is what it means:

          “The Addis mayor Top Doctor Arkebe oqbay within 23 months:-)Way Ane Tigria the land of accident …the Papillon land…the crisis to be a Doctor within four hours..Your life revolution are like Hollywood films..Wey ane dekey..Mekelle si a department of business without basis instructed with lowest paid people…People of Tigria feeds by charity save the children..My Tigria land..Tigria is away….”

          Wiser words were never spoken.

          saay

      • Ermias

        Simply beautiful!

      • Thomas

        Selam saay,

        Thank you for the quick response. I was simply trying to talk about the show Seinfeld and was trying to relate the show down in the awate forum to what goes on in the show Seinfeld. I have Larry David’s reality shows/episodes “Curb Your Enthusiasm” on DVD and I love that show very much too. Larry David is the man of creativeness/innovation really!

        To get to the point, I can say you are “Mels bekisu”. From your answer I learned that Awate forum like Seinfeld is about nothing allowing everything fun and important discussions/debates/news/poets/book club discussions to take place. In short, it is a place where people are welcomed for variety/diverse benefits/gains. Wow, you really are something!! The most American award winning comedy show, Seinfeld is defined the exactly the way you just defined Awate Forum. I admire your outstanding way of reviewing novel shows..

        • Tesfabirhan WR

          Dear Thomas,

          I think you missed the message. Diversity is beauty and this is the message from Saay. Go to madote, assenna, asmarino or worse to tesfanews and likes. For sure you will get irritated. But here as the forum is composed of people with different skills you won’t. In diversity you get everything not nothing. In diversity you learn perspectives and develop the 3D or 4D thinking.

          Live in diversity dear Thomas.

          hawka
          tes

          • Thomas

            Hi Tess,

            I simply tried to relate Seinfeld and with Awate.com. I am relating his answer to the show Seinfeld itself. If you have not seen Seinfeld, sorry you will never understand what I am trying to discuss with him here here. Let’s Saay answer if I am wrong and tell me if there is another way of relating Seinfeld comedy show and Awate forum. Seinfeld might be a camedy show with many real life stuff discussed in the show. What I have been trying to say is real discussion with great and diverse scope is discussed her. I don’t know about the diverse people you are talking about. All opposition websites have some qualities and are identified in one thing over the other. I visit all Eritrean opposition websites aiming for different information. I cannot deny that awate forum is one of the best once.

          • saay7

            Selamat Thomas:

            I understood your points in the manner you intended them. You are having a Larry David moment: misunderstood:) I thought it was just Nitricc who has somehow convinced himself that a very common name in Eritrea, Tomas, is a “white man” name. Now Tes has temporarily assumed the sniper duty at Dejen Awate. Everybody who lifts his head is getting it… Just duck a little longer:)

            saay

          • Thomas

            Selamat saay,

            I believe so believe so. I am asmarino, I get it:) We think we are all of that..:) I guess I need to hid myself under the tunnel then.

            Thomas.

      • Eyob Medhane

        Sal,

        Speaking of citizen reporters, I have a report, curtesy of NPR

        Isn’t it interesting how times change? Long gone that the days that Isayas supporters made sure that their names were mentioned loudly, when they spoke in support of their government. Now, listen to this report. One of the government supporters ‘does not want his name to be mentioned’, but the opponent of the government, proudly tells who he is….Wey gize!!!!!!!!

        http://www.pri.org/stories/2014-08-05/eritreas-president-wasnt-invited-washington-does-it-matter

        • Papillon

          Dear Eyobai,

          On a separate note, check this out. It will give you a picture of Gedli way before YG set out bad mouthing it. I wonder if the pilot is Bezabih Petros.

          http://youngpfdj.wordpress.com/2011/11/11/60-minutes-isaias-afwerki-interview-1985/

          • Eyob Medhane

            Ahh….Papi,

            The power of propaganda..Ethiopia was a self declared ‘Marxist’ State at the time, and of course, as Sal would call them the three letters propaganda outlets had to take the other side of what America thinks contrary to it’s interest…..

            So, how is the ‘wonderful Ghedli’ that is ‘bad mouthed’ by YG, only six years after this video shot achieved it’s goal, doing these days? Have all these people that you’ve showed me eaten and full and there is no more hardship and they are enjoying the ‘fruits’ of ‘Ghedli’? It would be cruel and mean for me to say that..’If the ‘unfairly bad mouthed Ghedli’ brought them all that, then good luck to them….

            How come George Galloway, the ‘humanitarian’, ‘the advocate’ (rolling my eyes) doesn’t speak for them anymore? He seemed ‘very concerned’……I think someone has to call Tehran’s Press TV to let him know that the people still need his advocacy… (oops..Sorry. I forgot. Press TV now is the non Eritrean foreign outlet for the young looking rebel leader in the clip., and of course George is the main personality of that network..)Mission accomplished! The young rebel leader on the clip turned President for life now, the head honcho, of the ‘unfairly bad mouthed Ghedli’ is not doing anything wrong. He’s not starving anyone, and never kills anybody…..Those days are gone! Thanks to ‘Ghedli’ and it’s leaders. (Sigh)

            P.S No…Bezabih Petros I was captured, during the border war. Not, during ‘the unfairly bad mouthed ghedli’ time, where the handsome Eritrean young rebel leader was rescuing millions from famine, operating hospitals from underground bunkers and giving dazzling interviews. Did I miss his wings, where he usually glides with to the heavens?….

          • Rahwa T

            Eyoba,

            He is Bezabih Petros. It was sad we was captured for a second time.

          • Eyob Medhane

            Rahawa,

            Really? Wow..I did not know that…Thanks for letting me know. Apparently, there is a lot of things that I did not know about…..

          • Eyob,

            Bezabih Petros and Legesse Teffera were among those gallant pilots, who were shooting down Somali Migs out of the sky as if they were flying ducks. Those pilots had become a nightmare to the Somali airfare of those days.
            One can say that although Ethiopian air force pilots were so few, nevertheless they did so much to defend their country.

          • abinet

            Egziabher abzto yibarkachew !
            Mekuriawochachin nachewna.

          • Eyob,

            If I am not mistaken, Bezabih Petros was captured twice.
            The first was during Ghedli, when his Mig23 was hit by chance, as he was flying low, probably over Nakfa, and the second time was when he was shot down over Asmara, during the border war.

            In the first case, he spent years as a POW at the hands of Shabia and later released when the Derge was deposed. He flew again on a mission during the Border war when his aircraft was hit over Asmara, he was
            paraded in the streets of Asmara, and since then nothing is heard about him.

          • Saleh Johar

            Horizon, what do you mean by “his Mig23 was hit by chance”? I believe he was hit by EPLF fire while bombing them. Please explain.

          • Dear Mr. Saleh Johar,

            I happen to know a person who served then in the Ethiopian air force. I have heard him say that Cap. Bezabih was not on a mission to bomb a specific target, but on a search-and-destroy mission. It means that he had to fly low to look for a target, which made himself an easy target, and that was when his aircraft was hit on a sensitive part by small-arm’s fire. Normally, fighter
            aircrafts do not fly that low when on a bombing mission of a specific target, and it requires anti-aircraft weapons to bring them down. Of course, that fatal bullet came from an EPLF fighter. Well, that was what I heard.

          • Thomas

            Hi Horizon,

            I am glad for you did not say he was in Nakfa to greet/have breakfast with the eplf fighters and they betrayed his trust. So, you cannot call that was an accident while knowing he was there to do his air force military activity and his plane was shot down while on air/horizon. Let’s please not go there, do we have to?

          • Rahwa T

            Thomas,
            Going back doesn’t help at all and we don’t need to go to the same circle again. One important thing to learn: we see how each historical event is written or narrated by two or more people.

          • Thomas

            Great point, my sis Rahwa.

          • sara

            oh…oh.. Rahwa, there is a lot of reasons to go there.. as poplar saying in ethiobia , which says some thing like this ‘if the one who hurt you forgets- the victim will not forget.. infact eritreans unlike many other cultures try best not look back, but the reality is not helping, specially after what the weyane leader in asmara in 92 said do not scratch your wands etc . Rahwa this days people are questioning why eritreans specially those capable to research and document the abyssinian atrocities of the past 100+ years, which i hope those with knowledge and time in this forum to consider take the responsibilities.one thing
            i am afraid the outcome of such research is we will see many of those who are defaming our sewra and the new nation will be exposed as many of them are one way or the other part of that history.

          • Papillon

            Dear Eyobai,

            It is you who have a way with words. Anyway, I am sure you know that, Bezabeh Petros is the younger brother of Beyene Petros and you can clearly see the striking resemblance. And as Horizon said it, Bezabeh was captured twice–first before liberation and later during the Badme war.

          • Rodab

            Super Papii,
            Who is Beyene Petros and who is Abebe Gelaw? You have good info-gathering techniques and you know a lot of these obscure figures 🙂 I hope I am not lagging on IMPORTANT info.

          • Papillon

            Dearest Rodab,

            My knowledge of them is pretty scant. Beyene Petros is one of the veteran opposition figures in Ethiopia. And I think he is an academic or something (Prof?). I came to know about Abebe Gelaw when he heckled Meles in one of the Economic Forum of emerging nations. He claims to be a freelancer of some sort and of course an opposition via remote-control. And I say, you ain’t lagging on anything at all for you’re not missing out on anything of importance.

            Haft’kha.

          • Rodab

            Ok Papii. Thanks for the info.

        • saay7

          Eyobai:

          You and ur 3-letter propaganda outlets:)

          The Eritrean cabbie is not hiding his name because he will be ostracized for supporting his power-corrupt regime in Eritrea. He chooses to be anonymous because he is afraid Obama will send a drone to his cab or take him to Americas Ella Eiro.

          Now speaking of Gize. Have you heard of the artist with the decidedly un-Habesha name of Orion Saleh? (Saleh means belt so he is Orions Belt. No I made that up). Listen to his song Gize (below) and if u like his voice (and u will) listen to his cover of Areweberhan Seghids “Baeley tezengiE”.

          saay

          http://youtu.be/zpUEde7U1sY

          • Eyob Medhane

            Sal,

            Don’t you take credit for that :-)…..search through my comments. I actually was the one, who recommended that song to you first…… 🙂

            That young man, as we say here in America has some balls…..I really like him….

          • saay7

            Eyobai:

            Really? Ok then… Credit granted.

            Now I wouldn’t go around distributing, um, cohones: he is a Dejen, a product of Sahel and a the song lyrics that people credit him for writing may not be his. Like when this song came out last year, with its last line “let’s kill him before he escapes” people thought what they thought (it’s about Isaias and the reference to Clueless Senbetu is to Sophia Tesfamariam) but he was just covering an old song.

            This song

            saay

            http://youtu.be/NItdieymtX4

          • Guest

            Sal,

            Sorry. I don’t mean to belabor the point, but, you are making me feel like I have been too long in this forum, because we are repeating things, which we already talked about…. 🙂

            Here is we discussed almost the same thing…tsk tsk tsk…

            https://awate.com/gulf-states-v-qatar-isaias-in-the-middle/

          • Eyob Medhane

            Sal,

            I have no idea,

            diques is bothering me..make it stop…. 🙂

          • Eyob Medhane

            Sal,

            Thank you..

            Now this is where and how we discussed the same thing, with almost identical words…

            https://awate.com/gulf-states-v-qatar-isaias-in-the-middle/

            Am I in this forum too much that, we started recycling conversations?

          • saay7

            Eyobai:

            Kids these days; how does your generation get so cynical so fast? Here is your answer, you heathen:

            A generation goes, and a generation comes,
            but the earth remains forever.

            The sun rises, and the sun goes down,
            and hastens to the place where it rises.

            The wind blows to the south
            and goes around to the north;
            around and around goes the wind,
            and on its circuits the wind returns.

            All streams run to the sea,
            but the sea is not full;
            to the place where the streams flow,
            there they flow again.

            All things are full of weariness;
            a man cannot utter it;
            the eye is not satisfied with seeing,
            nor the ear filled with hearing.

            What has been is what will be,
            and what has been done is what will be done,
            and there is nothing new under the sun.

            Is there a thing of which it is said,
            “See, this is new”?
            It has been already
            in the ages before us.

            There is no remembrance of former things,
            nor will there be any remembrance
            of later things yet to be among those who come after.

            Ecclesiastes: 1:4-11

            saay

          • Eyob Medhane

            Sal,

            I got you….!

            I have this really weird nature that, I remember small insignificant details to a sort of freakish extent 🙂 The problem is these details that stay stuck in my mind are totally useless and unusable data, like our first conversation about Orion Saleh…It’s annoying because, information that are considered ‘important’ don’t stay deposited too long more than necessary length of time in my memory department. Isn’t that sad? Now I see my quirky ‘remembering unimportant stuff’ problem is affecting you and drove you to quote an entire chapter?! of the bible….wow!

            Speaking of repeating advises and conversation. It looks like PMHD has totally rejected your suggestion about saying ‘my country’. And this time, it seems he repeatedly was saying that, I think just to spite you 🙂

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Nogxn2nADg

          • saay7

            Eyob Medhane:

            Don’t be weirded out by your memory. This is what my mind thought of when I read your story.

            Carnac The Magnificent. Beyan Negash. Kurt Russell.

            Then, upon reflection, Dennis Miller.

            I can tell you why, but only if you are interested: and why wouldn’t you be?

            PMHD saying “my country” while he is in the US is, as _____* told you last time, quite acceptable. It is when he says that while talking to his own countrymen in his own country that it gets a bit weird. By the way, I didn’t follow the other thread about his alleged incompetence of a foreign language, but he is quite lucid here. He has that Ethiopian voice: too soft to be heard. He needs to go to Eritrean villages where the decibel is deafening:)

            saay

            * quizzing your memory: fill in the blank

          • Rodab

            Eyoba,
            I agree. You do remember small stuff but not big ones, at least not this one: practically every Eritrean and every Ethiopian (don’t argue with me, ask around if you want) knows Pilot Bezabh was taken prisoner by the mighty EPLF during the Ghedli era. It is a so widely known fact that I am certain you’ve heard it before somewhere, sometime. You forgot.

          • Eyob Medhane

            Rodab,

            Nope..I didn’t forget that one….I just didn’t care a flying freak about what EPLF was and what it was doing, when you were worshiping them at your church 🙂 At the time, I was not old enough to be interested in politics, especially at the time, when EVERY ETHIOPIAN was thinking EPLF was bunch of Arab mercenaries, and EVERY ERITREAN was immortalizing them. (Of course, you would imagine, which camp I was in) When I became aware of EPLF, it was bombing school children. Ask me what happen, since then, then I will tell you…..

            Right back at you!!!!!

          • Rodab

            But you were old enough to know all the stuff you think are facts about Idris Awate?

          • Eyob Medhane

            Rodab,

            Wrong again…I was able to know about that because a fascist soldier, who said that he was his mentor put those facts in writing, and I got to read about it……Anything else?

          • Papillon

            Dear Eyobai,

            ምን ነካህ ወንድሜ ትንሽ abrasive ሆንክብን እኮ and I thought you promised to have at the very least some respect for the man this very website is named for.

            Respectfully.

          • Eyob Medhane

            Papi,

            I wasn’t being abrasive. I was just having fun with Rodab. As far as the person this website is named for, I never said I will have ‘respect’ for him. I promised not to talk about him, out of respect for the founder of this website that is Gash Saleh. See the difference? I virtually did not break that promise, because I was not talking about the person this website was named for. Rodab was, and I a short response about it…That was all….

          • Ermias

            See Rodab, it’s hard to win these kinds of arguments not because Eyob is always right but because EPLF/PFDJ have put the Eritrean people on the defensive. When you have a product that is not very appealing or that you can’t sell anywhere, then people will pick apart the process by which it was made. This is true even when the intended finished product was supposed to be universally good and accepted. Conversely, there seems to be not as much scrutiny with TPLF/EPRDF as far as how they came about to power is concerned. Basically the end justifies the means. So ultimately, PFDJ is responsible for our predicament and defensive position at the present. Talking about ghedli gets even to a more piercing level.

          • Rodab

            Hello Ermias,
            Once in a while I target random Awatistas (you’ll not be spared either:-). And of course some times, I get targeted. And if I or we can learn a point or two in the process, that would be good.
            Btw, I didn’t realize I was in the defensive position. Thanks for being my mirror.

          • Jemal..aka Jemal Hadembes

            [Moderator: You were notified an hour about an hour ago to use one nickname and stick to it, but so far, in a matter of two-hours, you have reached three nicknames. 1.Jemal 2. Jemal Hadember 3. Jamal..aka Jemal Hadembes. That will not work. Please read our posting guidelines, and start to post when you do. Unless you declare which nick you are using, your messages will not be posted]

          • Jemal

            SAAy,
            With all due respect ,Sir,
            Why would you even read this chap’s nonsense cheap talk for the sake of talking the cheap talk?
            He even has no clue about Eritrean history let alone about the Ghedli and the ELF/RPLF bravery.
            Pappi the Great II showed showed to him what Ghedli is all about besides showing his cousin Pilot Bezabih .
            These guys should have appreciated what Ghedli/the EPLF has done for his mamma estopia.
            But the hypocracy here is that these guys are deliberately trying to mess,confuse and create chaos.
            If they are honest ,they should talk the real talk about regional reconciliation and integration.

          • abinet

            You be honest and stay with one nick.you change your name as a high school girl change her clothes. You are HOPELESS. You should be the last person to talk about regional reconciliation. Be honest to yourself first. Nobody will trust you..

  • Ermias

    Dear Tes,

    First of all, please allow me to commend you abundantly for such a well researched and thought out article in response to Yosief Ghebrehiwet’s latest article. You did a wonderful job of supporting your evidences and grievances with providing ample background and definitions. Your research on Kafka should be highly commended as well. In a short while, you will master article writing skills as much as SAAY and YG.

    Now please allow me to provide a little bit of constructive criticism on the writing style. Some parts were a little hard to follow. For example, some of your titles and subtitles are big letters in bold red and others are smaller font. It helps the reader if you keep consistency with your titles and subtitles. You have as 1. Vocabulary Selection (in huge letters) but there was no number 2. Just minor things like that can throw off some readers. First Assumption – big red letters, Second Assumption – small normal font. Also a little more focus will be needed for you on your articles (a, an, the) and prepositions (that I find most writers flank). I will stop here lest I look like I am trying to discount your effort. Please do not take it that way. I just see in you a great future writer and the sooner you tackle these minor issues, the more fluently you will write and the more readers you will earn.

    Now to the meat and potatoes. This is not an attempt to provide a full-fledged defense of YG’s work per the refutations you listed in your article but rather to support the allegation that there exists a contradiction and ambivalence in the Eritrean mind when it comes to the regime and by extension to PFDJ, EPLF, and Ghedli. Let me start with a long quote from YG’s article.

    “In Dejen’s case, this took place throughout his years in prison where the image of malevolent and benevolent leadership coexisted in his mind, denying him a clear face of an enemy against which he had to fight back. And when that leadership comes in the form of President Isaias Afwerki only, that discordant picture still exists in his head, albeit in its less obvious yet recalcitrant form. It is this state of a discordant mind that finds itself in an ever-hesitating mode in times of liberating itself that I am calling “Dejen’s Syndrome”.

    As I listened to all the seven parts of the interview that Dejen conducted at assenna.com, there were two things that struck me as very odd:

    (a) Through the entire length of the seven-part interview, the absence of condemnation of Isaias Afwerki by Dejen was almost total. Given that it was the President that was behind his 15 years in prison, I thought his reluctance to put the President in negative light is disturbing.

    (b) After being asked by the interviewer what he believed to be the reason for his imprisonment, Dejen fails to explicitly state what he thinks it was. Instead, he gives an extended account of the circumstances that led to his detention, leaving a lot of room for interpretation.”

    Examples of this kind of ambivalence are abound at the street level.

    A huge majority of Eritreans would not go out of their way these days to defend PFDJ. But the idea of opposing the regime turns them away to defending the regime. The dance parties in Bologna (even though it wasn’t as successful) is an example of a contradiction. I would be dumbfounded if there is any human being let alone Eritrean who wasn’t heartbroken by the incident of Lampedusa but we saw people dancing in Bologna a short distance from the site of the one worst tragic places in Eritrean history.

    There is still a large segment of our society that believes that ‘nsu daa mishknay dey etom tihtiu zelewu eyom’ knowing full well that he is almost solely responsible for all the imprisonments and vanishments including that of Dejen’s.

    Look at Askalu Menkerios. Her husband is languishing in detention but she continues to serve IA. As a matter of principle, she should have stepped down if not demanding justice. We don’t know what she does behind closed doors but if this is not an ambivalence, I don’t know what is. A close friend of mine has his brother detained trying to escape to Sudan with his help yet he staunchly supports the regime (not a great example as it is unverifiable but I bet you every other person can testify to such a scenario.

    • Tesfabirhan WR

      Dear Ermias,

      For the editing, you are right and I hope we will make it proper.

      You can better read my second part before making a conclusive remark. But so far, I am trying to expose YG’s take and hopefully I am doing my part. Concerning the implications with the Eritrean mind, it is the system that brainwashed the people, the ideology followed by PFDJ. It is not the problem with the people but the outcome of the brainwashing. Dejen is not free from this but now Dejen broke away and able to identify his diseases and more than that he got the medicine. What all he narrated was being a free person. Had he being still in that slavery he could not have talked in the way he talked.

      What I believe is that the Eritrean people and the country Eritrea is higher than Gedli. What ever we talk we should talk from this perspective. You mentioned Askalu menkerios, but we can talk also about Haile Durue, all the G-15 and many who openly rejected the system and called for change. We can recall those who are languishing in the prisons and still we can see how Eritreans are brave enough to defend for their rights. We can mentions hundreds of those ELF fighters who said NO to EPLF/PFDJ rule and continued to fight. We can mention the Patriarch of the Orthodox Church and we can say how principled Eritreans are. We can re-call the catholic Bishops recent article and their previous messages against the system. ….

      And on YG’s line we can negate everything and state as if the entire society are wrong. Just now meditiate on this. I will leave you on your own wondering world.

      hawka
      tes

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Dear Tes,

    I have read the first part waiting for the second part. I will be coming with different approach to rebut Yosief’s structural approach and the misusing of conceptual theory in tandem with the role of writers to shape history. You have done your part though I disagree on trying to disprove the presence of “ambivalence” on Degen as well as in the thought process of Eritrean mind. Good job, let your free mind navigate to the unknowns and expose the mindset of unfounded perceptual argument.
    Hawka,
    Amanuel Hidrat

    • Tesfabirhan WR

      Dear Amanuel H.,

      Yes I am coming soon I was just waiting this publication. And your take will be a much higher added value in exposing YG’s fallacy.

      hawka
      tes

  • Thomas

    Selam Tess – I have to tell you I enjoyed reading your article. However, can you provide us with a proof that YG believes, “and as a result betrayed his home country, not only betrayal but wants to see this country to be part of Ethiopia.” In other words, how did you come to conclude that YG wishes the unity of his country with ethiopia. Please don’t tell me he implied or anything of that sort. Please educate me with an evidence by bring a quote from any of his articles. I thought YG was just a pro confederation. His entire writing has been if we had to go back in time, he would not have supported the gedli. He also talks about the result of gedli that some of those gedli turned out to be worst killers of their people and weakened the nation they fought for…………….

    • Tesfabirhan WR

      Dear Thomas,

      On what I said regarding YG, If I say this and that it is only a wastage of energy for both of us. I have said already and only YG can defend this. Let him come and nullify my statement till then I said what I said and I will see what he will say. I said it and it very lucid statement. As for you, you can only give opinions. Whether your opinions are valid or not YG will be needed to confirm that too.

      You thought YG is a confederationist and I say he is an Ethiopian as per se. I am not talking about his origin here. Nationalism is not necessarily by origin, it can be by choice.

      Hope I have cleared your questions.

      hawka
      tes

      • Thomas

        Anyone is innocent until proven guilty. If your writing is intending to the Awate audience, I suggest you to defend what your wrote. Isn’t that how it should be Mr. Tess? I do not want to be hard on you. I am just suggesting.

        • Tesfabirhan WR

          Dear Thomas,

          My writings are not only intended to awate audiences, it is to make all Eritreans and for those who are accepting his writings as truth. Stay corrected with this. For example, one of my FB friend, wrote this in his page;

          “in a rational and moral world, the person who deserves a Noble Laureate
          for literature is YG, His latest writing titled, “Degen’s Synrome” or
          “nedfi dejen” indeed addresses my fears, frustrations and hopes for the
          future.” (by the name Yoel Alem)

          Dear Thomas, I do not have any problem if a true and genuine writer is awarded with such but it should be true to its value. Hence, do not limit that every article written here is only to awatistas. Once published, it is for all.

          1. You ordered me by saying, “Please don’t tell me he implied it or sort of that…” Give me freedom and read what I will say. But here you have already directed me what to say though it is not necessarily mean that I will be stacked by your order.

          2. You are waiting to be convinced by my statements. Are you to such degree naive enough to take my notes? Go and search by your own self. I took my part and take your part. I said what I said. You can disproof what I said by bringing facts that you believe are strong enough to disproof me. And based on your facts I will defend my stand. I wrote already such an article to expose YG’s take and again you are asking me to go further. I can do but what I did is enough to conclude on what I said.

          hawka
          tes

          • Thomas

            Dear Tess,

            Awate audience can be part and parcel/representation of all Eritreans. So, you are writing to Awate audience and to all Eritreans and friends of Eritrean/who cares about Eritrea. Of course, you are writing to the people who are interested to read anything about Eritrea. So, here I am interested and read your article. You said two things about YG

            1) In your response to my comment on you, you try to tell me YG is an Ethiopian. How so? If someone writings something against or for his country, that someone’s nationality could be refuted or rejected?

            2) In the above article of yours, you said, ” “and as a result betrayed his home country, not only betrayal but wants to see this country to be part of Ethiopia.” Now, YG wrote so many articles, could please quote him on this. Just bring any statement/writing his to prove that he wanted to see Eritrea joining Ethiopia. In someway, we have to be different from PFDJ regime. They call us the enemies of the Eritrean people, yet they don’t provide a single evidence to prove their accusations of us.

          • Tesfabirhan WR

            Dear Thomas,

            I think it is better if we leave this for YG to defend. If he proved his say, then, I will bring what I have. Till then, I said what I said.

            hawka
            tes

          • Thomas

            Dear Tess,

            Then I rest my case.

            hawika,
            Thomas

          • Tesfabirhan WR

            Dear Thomas,

            I will ask you though one simple question.

            If YG denies that Eritrea is not a colonial legacy and the armed struggle that started in 1961 was just a mistake. Then, what can we learn from this?

            Hawka
            tes

          • Thomas

            Dear Tess,

            I will politely answer your question as below:

            He is NOT guilty beyond reasonable doubt. You are trying to tell me the implication of his statements /writings. Whatever happened in the past has happened for reasons. I believe he is trying to talk about the present, but he is trying to say we are here and we could have avoided what we have now if we had tried a peaceful means to challenge the king. I still think he is not not calling for unity with Ethiopia. If he is, I can safely say he is wasting his time. Our nation, the land, is liberated and this can never be reversed.

          • Tesfabirhan WR

            Dear Thomas,

            Now we came to a point where we can discuss further. But before indulging you further, I would recommend you to read two or more of his articles.

            One can not be guilty by chosing his nationality but he can be guitly if he defames the entire society and trying to infect with his way of thinking towards that society. In fact, YG wasted his golden time, almost 18 years now to proof why he rejected Gedli. Worse is, he finally rejected the entire people and the rights of Eritrea as a colonial legacy.

            hawka
            tes

          • Tesfabirhan WR

            Dear Thomas,

            Again for further clarification, in this article, my objective is to show that YG is not meant to glorify the bravity of Dejen but as a chosen man to infer his search on the Eritrean Identity. Dejen is just a focal point to develop his arguments. Read my article from this angle.

            hawka
            tes

          • Ermias

            Tommy, please check this video out. Not only is YG not a unionist, but he thinks the idea is foolish and not practical. He touches on identity and nations as well briefly. Quite informative.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZU_UDIe2uFo

          • Thomas

            Hi Ermi,

            I really admire your work on this. You have saved YG his identity:) The issue of character assassination thing needs to stop specially among the oppositions. Are we not civil and human beings to try to take away someone’s identity just like that? Attacking people that way is the PFDJ’s way (Sofia Tesfamariams’s way to mention one) and we must stop the madness now. I asked Dr. Sara questions because I wanted to listen it from her, now I have no problem with her. I cannot accuse of her of anything. That should be the way of settling things.

      • Samuel N.

        when you write ” If I say this and that it is only a wastage of energy for both of us.” I read it to mean “I don’t have any proof.”

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