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Critiques And The Politics of Truth: “EASE” Demonstrated Afar’s Grievances

“No theory can develop without encountering a wall, and practice is necessary for piercing this wall” [Gilles Deleuze]

Introduction

 On December 26 to 27, 2015, the “Global Eritrean Advocacy Network” (GEAN) had convened a conference in Cypress California [Gedab News, Dec. 30, 2015]. In the conference Ahmed Youssouf Mohamed, the chairman of the “Eritrean Afar State in Exile” (EASE), has presented a paper that demonstrate the marginalization of the Eritrean Afar social group by the current state of Eritrea. Interestingly enough, his argument was punctuated on the concept of “self-determination for self-rule,” an idea – I have been espoused for longtime, for purposes of equitable power sharing and maintaining the “equilibrium of interest” within our social groups – which are the building blocks of Eritrean identity.

But, before I proceed for the appraisal of Ahmed’s presentation, I will say few things about the title of this article “critiques and the politics of truth” along with the concept of “political tutelage” to relate it in the Eritrean political landscape; and subsequently, how the argument of “EASE” indirectly tackled the programmed Eritrean mind by the current government in the marginalization process of our minorities. In other words, I will try to investigate the purported truths of Eritrean politics of our era.

The Yoke Of Tutelage And The Power of Enlightenment

In 1784, Emmanuel Kent in his foundation of metaphysics of moral, described enlightenment as “man’s release from self-incurred tutelage”. According Kent “tutelage is man’s inability to make use of his understanding without directions from others”. He further alluded, that self-incurred tutelage is not in lack of reasons but it is in lack of courage and resolution – to use their own reasons without direction from others. And the reasons to live lifelong under the guardian and direction of government are “laziness and cowardice” which Kent referred it as the yoke of tutelage [1]

Enlightenment is the antithesis of tutelage, and its motto is to have a courage to use your own reason, conscience, and avoid your placid nature that put you under superintendent of the powerful government that dictate the mind of its subjects. Enlightenment does not require restriction rather it requires freedom to argue with the public use of one’s reason, that makes a person a scholar and dig to the unknown knowledge to bring to the surface and establish it as new reality.

In this age of enlightenment, the public can slowly remove the yoke of the guardians from their mind that ultimately dismantle the personal despotism or tyrannical oppression that become the obstacle to “a freedom” to make use their own reason in matters of conscience.

Unfortunately, the Eritrean people became “programmable” giving the oppressive regime an open door to program them, through mass propaganda of collective brainwashing, political myth making, and conspiracy theory that cast fears in their minds. The political discourse of the opposition is therefore, to unearth the power of the ruling class, as defined by its interest, and uplifting the consciousness of the mass, to show them the qualitative difference in their revolutionary investment (dismantling the oppressive system) from that of the ruling class and their sympathizers that are so often misguided with the reform orientation in their forward looking.

Equally though, when freedom is granted, for sure enlightenment will follow, and consequently the removal of the yoke of tutelage of the oppressive regime from the shoulders of the public at large. In this case, “our ability to resist control (of our mind) or our submission to it (to the power of tutelage), has to be assessed at the level of our very move [Deleuze 1995:176].

Critiques And The Politics of Truth

Gilles Deleuze once posed a question as follows: “why do we desire who oppresses us?” [2] venturing to study “the micro-politics of desire” in searching an investment and an instrument for the combat to the psychology of tutelage in the sphere of consciousness. Deleuze’s intellectual endeavor mimicked me to ask as to why some of our intellectuals have still to live under the tutelage of the tyrant, even when they are far distant from the harassment of the regime and none of their interest is at risk, but echoing “Nehna nissu and Nissu Nehna?” Take for instances the Sophia’s, the Gedewon’s, the Futur’s….etc who became the instruments of the despot who is oppressing the Eritrean people. So critiquing the “theory of governance” of PFDJ party and constructing a new theory of governance is the motto of this writer.

Critiquing is one of the tools in the polemical professional activities of philosophy. “It is an instrument and a means for a future discourse and truth finding that exist in relation to something other than itself by eradicating errors and deploying reflective techniques, comprising general rules of particular knowledge, percepts, and methods of examinations” [3]

Kent in his systematic thinking, asked a memorable questions of philosophy, such as what is our own actuality? What is happening around us? And what is our present? Two centuries later then, Michel Foucault wrote a response to Ken’s initiative on the discourse and critique of modernity. Foucault as a proponent of Hegelian and Kent philosophical approach, tackled Kent’s philosophical discourse in his book “the politics of truth” to answer those fundamental questions in every historical epoch as dictated by the “present” and “actuality” of the reality on the ground.

The truth of the Eritrean politics is therefore, could be examined by probing our reality with those fundamental questions of Kent and Foucault philosophical approach, to understand the nature of “despotism” and “marginalization” in our nation. In our current Eritrea, there are political, social and economic marginalization. That is the fact on the ground or what Kent called it “the actuality of the present”. The reason why we have many Eritrean social groups opted to have their own organizations to fight the current regime is simply based on the nature of the marginalization of our social groups or our minorities. Therefore “EASE,” the Eritrean Afar State in Exiles have the basics of truth in their political endeavor to fight and to de-marginalize the Afar social group including the other minority groups as reflected in the “alliances umbrella” – the GEAN meeting.

EASE Demonstrated Afar’s Grievances Eloquently

The political principle of “self-determination up to secession” in the political document of Afar and Kunama movement is exploited by those who believe on “centralize unitary government.” The principle of self-determination up to secession is not only applicable to nations who are capable to administer politically and economically themselves, but also it serves “as antidote to any unbridled desire of controlling the fate of the minorities.” [4]. I reflected this statement in my article of 2011, and I still hold this political stand defending the rights of our minorities.

Coincidently, Ahmed Y. Mohamed in his speech at the conference of Global Eritrean Advocacy Network confirmed, that the purpose of his movement is not for “secession” but they are rather for “the establishment of autonomous state, the right to self government within Eritrean state proper. He reassures Afar as an integral part of Eritrea and are committed to the Eritrean national unity and sovereignty while they are promoting diversity for Eritrean nationality. The Eritrean Afar clearly demonstrated their desire for peace, stability, respect of indigenous cultures of minorities, and prosperity for the Afar people and the entire of Eritrean people. Afar Eritreans indeed “object the assimilation through Tigrigna language and culture” [5]. In order to challenge the evils of marginalization, maintain the coexistence of our social groups, and defend the integrity of Eritrean sovereignty, EASE proposed “decentralized federal government” with “regional states” as administrative units, one of the varieties of “decentralized unitary governance.”

The issue of “Regional autonomy” and “regional state” in the debate of “decentralized unitary governance” within the opposition camp is not yet a settled issue. There is a clear difference between “regional autonomy” and “regional state” in the philosophy of governance. While the former allows only the devolution of “political and administrative power” to the administrative units from the center (leaving fiscal power to the center), the later allows the devolution of “political, administrative, and fiscal power” to the administrative units. This writer advocate for the former based on the “economic reality and the geographical identity (old provinces) for the formation of the units of administrations [6]. I don’t foresee a big hurdle to settle between the two administrational philosophy as far as we agree on the structure of decentralized unitary government and make a matured and thorough deliberations on them. How ever, there is irreconcilable positions between the proponent of “centralized unitary governance” and proponent of “decentralized unitary governance”. So far the proponents of centralized unitary government have failed to come up with “a structure” that address equitable sharing for our minorities. From the point of view of this writer, it is unthinkable to address the issue of “equitable sharing” with a structure of “centralized unitary government” as depicted in the “hybrid governmental structure” of the 1997 constitutional document.

There is a light at the end of the tunnel on the three constitutional core issues (land, language, and structure of governance) slowly but surely will find a final resolution that will ensure the unity of our social groups in particular and the Eritrean public in general.

Dr. Bereket, the chairman of the “commission” that drafted the 1997 constitutional document, apparently considered to revisit the document to make some changes on those core constitutional issues (on land and language refer to his writings and interviews, and on the “structure of governance refers to Prof. Magnet’s speech in the u-tube linked below” [7]. It seemed that there is a broad consensus on the Eritrean public opinion on the need of constitutional change, though they haven’t reached yet on how the political and legal document will be evolved in terms of the process, content, and on the framework of governance – the right model that address the grievances of our minorities to ensure equitable sharing on governance and economic life of our nation.

In conclusion, I encourage our minorities to frame their political arguments on their grievances (minority rights and indigenous rights) akin to the “EASE” – the Afar political approach, as oppose to coalescing on religious divide. Our religious tolerance is commendable for generations, and let us not play on the healthy cultural fabrics of our society. The mistrust we have is on the political issue of governance and not on our religious cultures. If GEAN is only formed to bring our Muslim brothers for active engagement as stockholders in the political crises of our nation – to that extent, it is supportable. Let us work on our common interest and debate rigorously and vigorously to narrow on our differences.

References

[1] Kant: political writings, Cambridge texts in the history of political thought, 2nd edition, edited by H.S. Reiss, translated by H.B. Nisbet.

[2] Michel Foucault, “The politics of truth”, translated by Lysa Hochroth & Catherine Porter, Edited by Sylvere Lotringer, 2007.

[3] Kevin Thompson, “power’s final word: Foucault & Deleuze on resistance”, international conference, November 2015, Perdue University.

[4] Hidrat, A., “The vision of Hawassa isn’t an echo of the past”, Dec. 12, 2011, Awate.com.

[5] Ahmed Y. Mohamed,  A paper presented on Eritrean Afar Issue at the Global Eritrean Advocacy Network (GEAN), Dec 27, 2015 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?…].

[6] Hidrat, A., “contours of change and Equilibrium of its parts”, April 8, 2014, awate.com.

[7] Prof. Magnet, Afar forum presentation, August 2014    [https://www.youtube.com/watch?…]

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  • tessema

    Afar people are true fanatic Eritreans and love their beloved motherland called Eritrea ,but we need access to port of Assab so bad. afar people are responsible for blocking us throughout history by knocking down our heads from reaching to red sea coast ,now it is time to pay back.afars must go back to Eritrea from Assab peacefully.

  • Abel

    Hope:
    Anta hasas, guday ahwat entay yigebir alo ab WWW/ public forum ?

  • Peace!

    Selam George,

    Personally Amanuel Hidrat is decent and respectful guy and of course as Eritrean he is entitled to his opinion. I agree that his view of change for the country is totally incompatible to the facts on the ground.

    He has defended relentlessly Ethiopia’s ethnic federalism that has become the worst termite eating the country in a broad day light.

    Now that his tone is changed perhaps because the system he was vouching for is crumbling and his hope to export change from Ethiopia is obviously diminishing. My advise to him is to stop bragging about Ethiopia and join Verizon, Kim Hana, Abi for beautiful romantic talk.

    Never mention the sufferering of Oromos as our Ethiopian friends here care more about us and our country.

    Peace!

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Peace,

      Thank you for defending my decency. But let me ask you one question. Which of my view on the change I advocate to our country is incompatible to the desire of the Efitrean people? I hope you have a good grasp to the solution I am looking for. Second don ‘ t the Eritrean people need to entertain different alternatives to make an informed decisions ono the their fate and the fate of our nstion?

      I do not believe a decision to be taken by the government without the consultation of the Eritrean people, as they are doing currently. The Eritrean people are either voluntary or involuntary are under the tutelage of the oppressive regime. There is no free will to voice their conscience and there is no representative government in our nation that address the grievances of our social groups. I believe my argument as a citizen is embeded on those core issues.

      The Ethiopian issues belong to Ethiopians. I do not have a voice on their issues and they are capable to address their issues. So do not ask me to have an opinion on their issue. I do not advocate for the Ethiopian kind of government. What I advocate, you have it in awate archive and public domain.

      Regards
      Amanuel Hidrat

      • Peace!

        Selam Emma,

        I think I do have a good grasp to the solution you are advocating that’s why I think your weed out, dismantle, eradication slogan is unrealistic. We all know the desire of the Eritrean people which is Eritrean solutions for Eritrean problems, nothing else. Your endorsement of Ethiopian interference is a clear evidence that your approach is not working. In fact, the ex PFDJ supposed to be weeded out are now gaining momentum in a short time than all the pro Ethiopia opposition groups combined have done in years.

        As for Ethiopia, I do understand Ethiopian issue should be left to Ethiopians, but when Ethiopians, like Hayat Adem, belittle our history and demonize our identity in defense of Ethiopia, you are the first one to clap. Not only that What’s ironically funny is when it comes to praising Meles and his accomplishments, it is ok for you to bragg about, but when it comes to his short coming it is not your business rather it is an Ethiopian issue. Come on Emma!

        Peace!

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Hi peace,

          I do not have a problem to have different opinion on the person ” Meles “. I admire his leadership quality and his vision for his people focused on eradicating poverty and iliteracy among other things. That is my judgement. We do not need to reconcile our views on him, because it hasn ‘ t any relevance to the Eritrean issue. What we need to reconcile and compromise is, on the Eritrean issue specifically on the domestic issue, such as rule of law, constitutionalism, nature of governance..etc.

          As to the removal of the despot, l am for “all means” that expedite the emancipation of our people. If you have qualms on this stand, it is your view and I respect it.

          Regading the Ethiopian issues, I agree completely with Dis Donc. Please ditto to his reply to you.

          Regards
          Amanuel Hidrat

    • Dis Donc

      Dear Peace,
      Although they are experiencing some problems (that may or not be persistent) the Ethiopians do enjoy some sort of liberty, economic progress and organic democracy, how ever poor and fake it is! We may observe and argue that ethnic democracy may damage them. However, there is only one dominant single party in Ethiopia, whether by will or design. And this single party has a core belief of solving century only grievances, equity, and equal representation. While they have myriads of opposition parties, they somehow failed to address the above mentioned problems. On top of that, Observers believe that these opposition parties are remnant of old political system, which not only failed to address persistence issues as recent as possible, they had been party to the making of these grievances. For Ethiopians and their political parties, the solution is to find and form opposition parties that can and will address these persistent issues and compete EPRDF. As of present, opposition parties lag EPRDF by a million miles. And that is the problem, as I see it. As Eritreans, though, we should look inward and not meddle in their business as if it is our own backyard.

  • Kim Hanna

    Selam Abyssinia,
    .
    I am wondering if you might be using multiple computers or other glitch incident that might cause you the problem. I don’t think, I hope it is not the moderators in their moments of weakness who delete your posts.
    I have seen on many many too many to count that they give warnings about insults and foul language usage and personal attacks before they act.
    On occasion I have seen when an article is attached that requires permission they simply delete the whole thing but not like this. Don’t forget, they are not exactly over staffed.
    .
    So check on your side to follow all the protocols. Of course they might surprise you and me and tell you that they don’t like the color of your eyes. It is a strange world we live in.
    .
    Mr. K.H

  • Berhe Y

    Selam Hope,

    Sorry I didn’t get back to you sooner. Just want to focus on a couple of points, because the rest is not worth to spend time.

    I asked you what Eritrea plan B is but you gave me plan A. Which we all know and heard a million times by now, that Ethiopia accept the boarder ruling unconditionally.

    What the old white man suggested is also exact the same thing…asking Ethiopia to accept the ruling, may be in different tone with added flavors. But sitll the same solution, accept unconditionally. Again, I want to repeat, what if Ethiopia refuses as it has done for the past 12 years..

    What’s your plan B.

    And you said…”Yeah,change should come one way or another but not hectically and overnight ,as we will be victims of the same TPLF Agenda if we rush so and act emotionally!”

    We don’t have to rush after 15 years…you still need more time…what if Ethiopia never accepts it, as the case of conflict between India and Pakistan, or China and Japan for contested islands…or Saudi Arabia and Yemen for the past 50 years….what are you going to do…

    What’s your plan B….

    Just wait for the right time….you see, weather we like it or not, for this to happen we are at the mercy of Ethiopia, you don’t want to admit it…but that’s exactly where the solutions lies…As I said to you before, Eritrea has squandered the opportunity it had to force Ethiopia….

    Ethiopia will do it, first and for most if and when it feels it will benefit her. I think personally, if it’s security is at stake or if it impacts it’s economy (indirectly). I think Ethiopia soon will reach / slow down in it’s growth and things start to saturate..like the government spending in infrastructure..the debt level is getting hire and the cost of borrowing will be higher to..

    Having a direct unresolved conflict with Eritrea puts here as a country which has an issue, which will make it’s rating lower…so it will pay higher for the cost of borrowing..Equally those investors that it wants to lure ( to help sustain the growth) with it’s Direct investment, they will also consider the risk in going to Ethiopia or not. For example, Ethiopia could not be treated the same as Kenya, even though Ethiopia can be more secure, safe. The second thing is, the cost of using Djibouti gets expensive and it will be able to reduce the cost if it uses Eritrea. I think Abissinya said, Tigray with all the growth, having the conflict with Eritrea is hurting them as well, which is the base of TPLF.

    These and other things will prompt Ethiopia to sign but not necessary to benefit Eritrea or Isayays.

    Berhe

  • Abraham Hanibal

    Selam Abyssina,
    You wrote “Remember, it is not a good thing to attack someone when they are in their weakest.” Allow me to replace the word “attack” by the phrase “take advantage of” and remind you not to take advantage of Eritreans when they are at their weakest. Some of your comments, for example the one that has been deleted, have such a contemptous and condescending attitude towards Eritreans, to the extent that you have the audacity to tell Eritreans they are incapable of preserving their statehood and should do away with it. In my view there is nothing that infuriates Eritreans or any other people than telling them they are not fit to deal with their own affairs. Our problem was and continues to be that of lack of rule of law, and lack of justice; nothing more nothing less.
    Eritrea will rise from the ashes of the Isayas regime; and Eritreans will find a formula of governance that serves them well.

    • George

      dear hanibal
      Please speak for yourself. We Eritreans are not weak. Just trusting. But no more. We know those, including you wan be Eritreans. PIA is our leader who keeps you away. Don’t forget that. Boy the effort you gus make to be Eritrean.

  • Nitricc

    Hi ayneta. It is Obvious from your writings you are too old to interact with the current generation and to comprehend what goes on with it. if not, who gives the flying hoot how and what vocabulary Gahteb uses? Who gives a F-F what Nitricc writes; no one! But people like you who think good in English and perhaps did well in history classes, are at it with their garbage and useless commodity.
    Do you write well, Ayneta? Fine, go jump in the lake if I care!
    You said
    “unlike you who hides his insecurity and low self-worth underneath foul mouthing.”
    That is a women talk. Are you a woman?
    Oh my; no wonder ………….. you never know, talk about hiding????? Hmmmmmmm?

    • Hayat Adem

      Nitricc,
      “That is a women talk. Are you a woman?”
      Don’t insult 50% people of the world. How are you raised, Nitricc?

      • Semere Andom

        Ho Hayat:
        asking Nitricc how he was raised is an oxymoron.He was not raised. He was cloned! and like Dolly the sheep he will deteriorate and will not improve

    • Ayneta

      Nitricc:
      You obviously have some mental issue, seriously. I was not attacking the person in you per. I was refuting your hapless approach. Look at you F-me, getting racist with your insult of women. I don’t think you have the skin to withstand any attack from anyone. You may even self-inflict or do something to other people around you. Get your anger in check. ……go in peace Tsubuk Wedi…..learn how to control your fingers or don’t come here. We will skin you alive.

  • Music Novice

    Greetings Abyssinia,

    “when you try to fire at me…”

    What fire? There is none.

    I support your participation on this forum. But you need to respect the rules. Last time, you were trying to poach the Eritrean Afar- a Team Eritrea player. Do you admit your error of judgement?

    • Hope

      Selam -MN:

      Please,tell him to his face,the ERITREAN Way ,not to play around with the ERITREAN Sovereignty and Unity business!

      Per my understanding,the Forum is for:
      -Constructive ideas ,not destructive ones

      -Constructivec Dialogue so as to promote Trust and Confidence building and National and Regional Reconciliation and Economic Integration within and among ERITREANS and our Region

      -Respect of each other and each other Country’s Sovereignty and Territorial Integrity!

      For God’s ,sake have people like Abi,Abyyssinia,etc and even the likes of Horizon Medhanie,the TPLF Official Amb at Awate.com,and even Kim Hanna(who dared to tell us that there is no such thing called an Independent Eritrea),as well as the likes of TKifle,who declared on the Awate land that ERITREANS have no ID and/or ,are suffering from ID Crisis!, acting per the spirit of the Forum ???

      Most of them here are here to belittle us and trash us as a people and as a Nation and just to create chaos !

      Didn’t they tell President Mahmud Salih to go to hell when he invited them for ” Peace Talks”!?

      BTW,dear Ethios,did u attend or watch/listen to Prof Berhanu Negga’s Washington ,DC /Silver Spring ,MD,Lecture in the current Affairs of TPLF Governance and the over all situation in Ethiopia!

      The Good Prof told us openly and boldly that he has learned some basics of Governance and Famine Crisis Mgt from that ” Tiny” Nation called Eritrea!

      For an immediate link,check on tesfanews.com,aka endasiwwa .com!
      TN!

      • Hayat Adem

        Hope,
        Dr. Berhanu is not some one you can rely on. I gave months ago how he was agitating the Woyane to do more for he thought they could do more on totally annihilating Shaebia, and on reclaiming Asseb.
        I am not judging his positions here but his character. I don’t even believe he was in Eritrea to do anything more than vacationing. People are already talking about him that he never resigned from the university he was teaching; he was on vacation leave or something and he is back on his teaching business.
        In any case, I don’t trust soapy people like him. I don’t listen to such cheap testimonies.

        • Hope

          Hayat:
          We are talking about Strategic and Tactical Alliance!
          The PFDJ is fully aware what the Good Prof said yrs ago to the Ethiopian Congress,well taped and recorded!
          We are also fully aware what the TPLF said and did and what not!

          Prof Berhanu et al will not have any right or power to reverse the Eritrean Independence!
          But again ,there are no permanent friends but permanent interest!
          Worst case scenario and if pushed that far,well, we have plan B!

          • Semere Tesfai

            Selam Hope Nebsi

            “Worst case scenario and if pushed that far,well, we have plan B!”

            Hope, Hope, Hope.

            Now you got me confused. I thought we were already on plan B. And if plan B doesn’t work, going back to plan A.

            You Know: from beating the Amaras using Tigrean-stick (plan A) to beating the Tigreans using Amara-stick (plan B). And God forbid, still, if they don’t get it, back to plan A. Of course not without the Wonder-Arabian energy drink. That’s what I thought the plan was 🙂

            Want just to make sure!

            And appreciate your endeavor on the war of ideas.

            Semere Tesfai

          • Hayat Adem

            Dear Semere T.,
            How come you haven’t thought of reactions? You thought only PFDJ thinks smart with As and Bs, and back to As? So you think the Tigreans and Amharas are just your roosters that you unleash one against the other at will? It looks like playing a chess where there is rule guaranteeing you only make your moves and your opponent can only helplessly watch you. I don’t know a world of that type exists.
            Look, Ethiopians are reading you as you write such stuff. You may think this is no big deal but you are damaging Eritrea’s long term interest by saying such things. Please be careful. Toss your cookies (A&B) and think of a Plan C (cooperation).

          • Semere Tesfai

            Selam Hayat

            In the last fifty years, what good has Ethiopian regimes done to my country and my people?

            Don’t we have a right to fight back?

          • Hayat Adem

            Semere,
            For the last 50yrs, you are admitting you have been using 1st Tigreans and now Amhara, one against the other. Do your part to make the next fifty years different and better.

          • Rahwa T

            Dearest Hayat Adem,

            Greetings my beautiful Habesha sister,

            Few days ago I read your post asking MN why he showed his soft heart to the PFDJ. Did he give you a satisfactory answer? I never read a reply from him. I think he skipped it. I wonder if you have read Abyssinia’s post on the probable shift of MN’s position towards the PFDJ. If you have not read it, you will get a very strong reason for your question. If you have not read it, you will get a very strong reason for your question. You don’t get at Awate.com, as it was deleted and it seems he is banned, (don’t know if it is temporarily or permanent), but you can read at “Discuss” or asmarino.com.

            Samsaon has copied and pasted it there.

          • Hope

            Hayat:
            Are we given any option or choice though?
            Who has been the victim of the victims for the last 60yrs ,for God’s and Honesty’s sake,with all due respect,Madam?
            We only have attempted to defend our selves and fight back for our survival and existence, and yet, you are claiming that we have had a chance to do this and that when we did not even have a chance to defend ourselves so as to survive as a people..
            For God’s sake ,who is doing what on the basis and official Policy of dividing Eritreans by Religion, Region and Ethnic Politics?
            Who initiated and concluded the struggle for Free Ethiopia?
            Who stood firm for a strong and united Ethiopia and envisioned for a Con-Federated Ethiopia through the FREE WILL of the peoples in question?

          • V.F.

            Hi Semere. I had a better proposal (than having the T’s and the A’s go at each other’s throats) but nobody had enough brain cells to grasp it. My proposal was ‘lets conquer Abyssinia and make it our own.’ The more the better plus at the end of the day, we are the same people. So we unite and we rule. Would you like that idea? You must hurry and reply because otherwise Abi will come and attack this idea from all angles.

          • Semere Tesfai

            Selam V.F.

            Yea, it looks good on the surface but I’m pragmatic.

            You know, as a young boy, I fought a lot, some for status and some for respect. But always I picked my only size. And that is the problem with the ‘lets conquer Abyssinia” idea.

            As my mom would say ምስ ዘይዓቅምኻ ምቅላስ: መ ፋሒ ዝባንካ::

            ኣባይን አባኻን ዝተርፍ: እቲ ሓሳብ ክንምርዓዎም ‘ዩ:: ግን ተኾይኑ’ዩ::

          • Semere Andom

            Hi Moksi:
            Speak of the devil;-)
            I was thinking about you, what you think about the Afar issue. We are the majority, we won that lottery so we rule when we get elected democratically but how do we keep the country together with all the grievances and the ethnic based organizations that pop up everyday? How do we balance our power with ensuring that the Afar do not heed my call to join with the Afar in the south;-)

          • Semere Tesfai

            Selam Mokhsi

            You know Semere Hawey: the majority minority issue is something you struggle-with for centuries until you get it right. With all its wisdom, with all its treasure and with all its years (since independence) my adapted country is still struggling with it.

            My hope is, we (Eritreans) all to lose our identity and value (minority majority all) for bigger security and larger economic pie. It is going to happen anyway.

          • Dear Semere T,
            Sorry for forcing me say this. I hope you know this quote; “Only two things are infinite, ……. (fill the blanks). Your audacity and your contempt for Amharas and Tigreans is despicable. You could not hide the Nitricc in you. You people seem to be from the same mold. When you speak of the Amhara and Tigrean sticks, and how you could manipulate them, please, do not forget the Ethiopian stick of 1998-2000. Keep dreaming that you will triumph on Ethiopia’s self-inflicted demise, of course, provided that you will still be around.

          • Semere Tesfai

            Selam Horizon

            Take it easy. It is all humor.

            Respect our land and our people and it will be all good.

            I hope I’m not asking too much.

          • Feramale Faro

            Dear Horizon,
            You forgot, Ted, Halaak 90 million alaHm and can milk them and yet he does not know how to make cheese. Yes,they are from the same mold with the same chips on their schoulders. Please tell them, that there will not be plan B.

          • Abi

            Hi Semere T
            A typical arrogant kebesa screaming from his death bed. RIP
            Milas bicha !

          • Hope

            Selamat Semere Tesfay:

            I got you and “apologies” for confusing U!

            When people say Plan B,it implies other options and alternatives!
            May be I should have said Plan C,but that was not my intention!
            ” All options on the table”!
            Trusting the South?
            Nah,history does not lie!
            Be it the Tigreyans from Zemene ennini,the Amhara Elite and even the Oromos cannot and should not be trusted!
            Our Alliance should be purely strategic and even Tactical at times!
            We have learned the HARDEST LESDON the Hardest Way,one way or another!

            Arab Energy Drink ?
            May be but nah!

            If history is to be the witness,we should not trust but God and Eritreanism-our Unity in Diversity,the TIME TESTED Truth or Fact!

            The Arab League is the most INEPT and the WEAKEST LEAGUE or Alliance!

            So,no dependence on it as a Long Term Alliance!

            It might have some nominal leverage but look at Somalia,Libya,Syria and Iraq!
            Eritrea could be like that as part of the Arab League!

            In principle though,having a Coalition or an Alliance like a Security and Defense Agreement is of utmost importance!!

            This kind of ” Alliance and Agreement” was and is part of my plan B!

            Why not ?
            Having a Strong,Realistic and Trusted Security and Defense Agreement with the Sudan Egypt ,Saudi Arabia,the UAE and Qatar along with New and Stronger Yemen considering the Geo-Political factors and Geographical proximity is but helpful for the Security of the Red Sea and our Sovereinty and Territorial Integrity!

            More over,ERITREANS need that huge Market as well besides extending it to the Horn and South East Africa way to Namibia,where ERITREANS now are flooding into,like Rwanda,Angola,Botswana,SAfrica and Namibia as well nowadays!!

            But this is the time tested Truth and Fact and strength and of utmost importance:

            -A United Eritrea in its strongest Term
            -Socio-Economically,Educationally and Militarily (Elite Airforce,Navy,Army ,Commando and Intelligence)STRONG ERITREA along with the BEST ,EFFECTIVE and EFFICIENT National Security Strategy and Apparatus for the best interest of Eritrea!

            -Effective and Efficient utilization of our Human and Natural Resources!

            Most of us seem to have ” No Clue” about the serious and unbelievable Potential of Eritrea when it comes to its Human and Natural Resources!

            -Effective,Well organized ,efficient and a United and well structured National Service so that we will have a Ready and Strady People’s Army of 6,000,0000 !

            -Viable,flexible and mutually constructive Policy in the Arena of Diplomacy!

            That was my Plan B,my dear comrade,in my naive opinion!

      • Abi

        Hope
        Last time I saw Dr Birhanu, he was campaigning to push you in the Red Sea and take over Assab. He wanted you to be history. I think President Birhanu will do it. Why are you rushing it?
        Are we talking bout the same person?

      • Kim Hanna

        Selam Hope,
        .
        You said this in your response to Music Novice above. “..Even Kim Hanna(who dared to tell us that there is no such thing called an Independent Eritrea)”
        .
        I would like you to put within quotes exactly what I am supposed to have said without adding or changing any word or words. If I have made such an absurd statement, I will apologize. If I didn’t …let us see.
        .
        Mr. K.H

  • Hayat Adem

    Dear Abyssinia and Addis,
    Obviously, I object any acts of blocking sane ideas on this WS or any other public dissemination platforms. However, it may have nothing to do with the moderators. It could be this disqus thing. My sense is there are certain things related to content management the Awate Team don’t seem to be routinely controlling. The reason why I say this is the moderators don’t seem to be interested to block or remove posts unless they thought it was really, really offensive and vulgar, etc (not in pattern with character standard of you two, guys, as you are very decent people far as I can tell) and when they do, they tell us that they did that and why, and after repeated warnings at that. This WS doesn’t see ideas as radio-active stuff that need to be contained before they spread. Believe me they do tolerate many, many extreme ideas, including those that directly clash with the pillar mission values of the website itself. In short, if they are the ones blocking it, they will come out and explain it to you their reasons. But, I am of the view that it might be because of disqus acting errand. So, don’t conclude unless they confirm to your suspicions.
    Hayat

  • Music Novice

    Greeting Abyssinia,

    Cool down and relax. It is not diplomatic to try and poach the players of your rival team; remember, your rival could do the same to you.

    By the way, as I remember it, Ethiopia was not heaven on Earth as people claim it to be. There was a lot of petty regional ganging up, in particular the at the work place. I do not know now, but both during the Emperor and the Derg, various institutions were identified with certain regions.

  • EASE

    HOPE,
    You said, quote, “as a “person ,who belongs to a victimized Social Group of such a kind of socio-economic discrimination”… are you really belong to one of our ethnic groups?

    If you feel, your social-group is victimized as ethnicity, why don’t you say that openly, Be proud of that. The Afar are more than happy to help you with our experience, legally or otherwise to bring your grievances to the fore.

    A friend who went to Addis-Abba University in the late 70’s used to tell us, the Oromos would not dare speak their language openly for the fear of being laughed at during day hours, but they would wait until the bed time(dormitory) when all the lights were off, then they would speak to each other. Then sneaky Amara students would open the light on them to shut them up, so every one was quite again, KKKK…
    Be proud of your self my friend, no one will hand you anything just because you’re nice, speak the truth even it seems to difficult. The Table has turned for Oromos today, they are no longer the laughing stocks.
    If the Afar self determination rights are realized in Eritrea tomorrow, All Eritreans will fare better, including those marginalized groups.

    The Afar have a political, socioeconomic, and cultural agenda not because we only all care about our issues but it will make Eritrea safe,table and prosperous for all our children and the children of all nationalities.

    Stop defaming Professor Magnet, without any information about him, Here is a Jew, working with Muslims (Afar) for the sake of humanity, That says something about the man.

    And Bravo to Hayat for reading between the lines.

    EASE

    • Music Novice

      Greetings EASE,

      You said: “the Oromos would not dare speak their language openly for the fear of being laughed at during day hours, but they would wait until the bed time(dormitory) …”

      This is a fake story through and through. But it makes you feel happy you can believe it.

      • EASE

        Novice and Abi,
        Are you denying the Oromos weren’t looked down on by H/Selassie, even derg?
        Even the Tigrigna had better chances than them, scholars like Dr. Bereket including Afwerki himself.
        Keep denying history and you won’t learn anything, Deny, Deny , Deny

        This shows you still espouse an affectionate spot for Axumaites kingdom?

        • Music Novice

          Greetings EASE,

          I know I am spoiling your ‘the Afar are oppressed’ narrative.

          For about four hundred years, the Oromos had ruled Ethiopia by proxy. They were the King makers behind the Ethiopian throne, they were the backbone of the Ethiopian Cavalry and so on.

          Don’t you know that the Shoa family that ruled Ethiopia from Menelik to Haile Selassie was mixed Amhara and Oromo. Haile Selassie was the son of Mekonen W/Michael Gudessa and Yeshiemebet Ali Aba Jiffar.

          Why is the OLF too much smoke but no fire. It is because of lack of popular support.The OLF was mainly created by the persecution complex driven Evangelically baptised Wellega Oromo and the Islamised Oromo of Harrar. I call them the odd couple.

          EASE, life is what you make of it i.e. ‘The quality of your life is determined by your thoughts.’ Try to make the best of it rather than following a destructive path.

          I have seen my fair share of revolutions. I can only repeat: “The revolution? When the shooting stops, and the dead are buried, and the politicians take over, it all adds up to one thing: a lost cause.”

        • Dear EASE,
          Why did you bring this Oromo thing, while you know that it does not add value to the important points you were making about the grievances of the Afar ethnic group in Eritrea. Saying that oromos could not dare use their language during the day time but during the night, and even then with the light out, is far from the truth and out of context. Do not take for granted what other people say. They may be exaggerating. In addition you can not fight for the rights of the Afar people if you demonize other ethnic groups by calling them members of the Axumite Kingdom, etc.

        • Abi

          Hi EASE
          I am impressed by your creative writing.
          I’m eagerly waiting to read your version of the Axumite Kingdom.

    • Abi

      Hi EASE
      Your example of the Oromos is as lousy as your narrow minded ethnic party.
      EASY on your lies !

    • Hope

      Dear EASE:
      Thanks for your feedback!
      I will respond to you about the 10 point-grievance about The Eri Afar!
      FYI:
      I openly declared and testified about my own Social Group for the RECORD only but I opted to have a Joint and a United Struggle of Justicec Seekers so as to avoid unnecessary misunderstanding and polarization among/of our Social Groups!
      Injustice is injustice wether you are an Afari,,a Blenay or a Lowlander or an/a Habeshi or Tigrigna!
      And -or ,an Atheist,a Christian or a Muslim!
      There is no need of politicizing and “philosophing “it as it will ONLY drag our struggle for Justice!

      Am fully aware of the dirty and poisonous TPLF Divisive Politics and I REFUSE. to be a Victim of such rotten and obsolete politics!

      United We Stand,Divided We Fall!

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Hope

    He told me that I am not in his league. Second if Hayat exposed all his flaws and contradiction do I need to overdo it? No. If someone reflect my view I do not need it.

    By the way where did you find me to support prof. Magnet? Try to have a cllected thought to avoid ambivalence.

    • Hope

      Ahlan Ya Ustaz A Hidrat:
      I commented on it as you referenced him as your back up to justify your cause !

  • T..T.

    Hi all,

    A private email was received in response to my proposal below underscoring the fact that for those who do not see a political solution in sight, they must be seeing a civil war looming on the horizon if Isayas is removed by force.

    Well, it is believed that Isayas does not command any public support unless those supporters are enjoying the sufferings of the terrorized and frightened innocent Eritrean people including the latest Isayas’s scooping up into their wealth and confiscating their money by utilizing their fears. No doubt some Eritrean criminals and the human organ harvesters love and respect him, which means the Eritrean innocent people and his victims consider him a devil by default.

    My proposal for ousting Isayas reads as follows:

    So now we all smell a change within three months in the air.

    From the ongoing discussions all agree that political change in Eritrea is overdue. It is believed that every Eritrean is highly desirous of establishing all inclusive government. Although the Arab spring of civil resistance as a uniting means against the tyrant is preferred, yet most of Eritreans disapprove of the Middle East type change by using destructive force to oust the tyrant.

    People like Nitricc always are against the opposition. Such people, like Nitricc, call the opposition dysfunctional for lack of its effectiveness. They are ready to jump and ride with the opposition if it becomes effective and reliable.

    Therefore, it can be said that 80% are for yes of immediate change in Eritrea, while 20% have no objection if the change is effective and reliable. In line with an effective and reliable change, let the opposition declare a government in exile led by Kunamas and Danakilas. The government in exile will then organize the country federally around the old administrative regions. The opposition will assign representatives of the regions as executive body. The executive body, in turn, will assign provisional leaders of the administrative regions.

    So, what do we have on hold now?

    The leaders of administrative regions will prepare for change by taking the task of organizers upon themselves. They will have to first assign leaders of their sub-provincial/regions and open two way communications to reach the people to be organized around elderly leaders for internal reconciliations within their region and across the country.

    The executive body will take the role of a provisional government to de-isolate Eritrea internationally within the AU and UN.

    Finally, all in all, within a period of three months the government in exile will send to Isayas calling on him to negotiate his outstation from power peacefully.

  • ‘Gheteb

    Ethnicism and Ethnic Politics In The Eritrean Context

    Greetings!

    First things first and let me put here the definition of words/term ethnicism.

    (I) ethnicism
    Pronunciation: /ˈɛθnᵻsɪz(ə)m/
    Entry from British & World English dictionary
    Definition of ethnicism in English:
    noun
    Consciousness of or emphasis on ethnic identity or culture; ethnic self-determination or nationalism; ethnic separation.

    Among all the forces that have been buffeting the nascent nation (state) of Eritrea, probably ethnicism and ethnic politics poses the most formidable existential threat. This is so because the Eritrean national narrative and ‘the Eritrean consensus’ is an amalgam of all its constituent ethnic groups and if one ethnic group quits or vacates this national consensus, then the genie will be out of the bottle and consequently Eritrea as we know it now will be no more.

    The Eritrean Afaris are central in the Eritrean narrative. They were at the forefront in Eritrea’s long struggle for independence, be it in the pre-armed struggle or during the revolutionary war. From the historical places such as Sodha Ela and Simoti that constitute an integral part of the Eritrean national consciousness to the towering revolutionary heroes such as Ahmed Hillal who played a pivotal role in erecting the central stanchions of Eritreanism, one finds the annals of Eritrea’s history replete with major contributions of the Eritrean Afaris.

    I am not terribly oblivious to the grievances and complaints of the Eritrean Afari people. In point of fact, I am very sympathetic to their viewpoint and awareness of ‘maltreatments’ and their perception of being under assault either by the Eritrean government or the Tigrigna ethnic group. However, I don’t subscribe to the notion that the Eritrean government is deliberately excluding, persecuting, discriminating and ethnically cleansing the Afaris of Eritrea.

    The provenance of the Afari Eritrean grievances is NOT what many have so far told us. I am of the belief that almost all that ails Eritrea and Eritreans is attributable to the simple facts that Eritrea is still a young and emergent nation with all the attendant symptoms of growing pains; Eritrea is a sanctioned nation; Eritrea is, literally, on a war footing; Eritrea is still a sanctioned nation; Eritrea is still trying mightily to disentangle and extricate itself from the chokehold of the world’s powers to be. I mean, Eritrea has been literally on a survival mode and this has distracted it and taken away from the proper attention that should have been paid to addressing internal issues such as power devolution and decentralization.

    Devolution of power and decentralization are NOT brand-new concepts in the Eritrean political discourse; nor are they conveniently irrigated into our conversations for political expediency. These two concepts were adopted in the EPLF’s Second Organizational Congress in the late eighties. What is more, is the fact The EPLF’s GS (General Secretary), Isaias Afewerki, addressed these issues in the EPLF’s official organ, Adulis, by expatiating their importance in dealing with Eritrea’s political diversity and ethnic heterogeneity. I think that was in 1990.

    I believe that once all the existential threats to Eritrea are dealt with and rendered harmless to Eritrea’s nationhood, then Eritrea must start to look inwards and apply these concepts of decentralization by creatively wedding them to the rich culture of the Afari Eritreans. And, in my humble opinion, herein lies the antidote to the unremitting efforts by those who have been trying to undo the Eritrean consensus by using ‘the Afari question’ as a political decoy or Trojan horse.

    • Semere Andom

      Cousin Gheteb:

      I like this comment for the following reasons:

      You have finally heeded the advice of the great Ustaz Assad to avoid obscure words and instead to use simple English language and by so doing you have spared me the effort to look up your diction in the dictionary. Once when you mocked my essay for using simple words then when the good teacher returned your paper laden with red ink, I rejoiced.:-)

      I do not like the comment because it apologizes for PFDJ. I am expecting a comment where you heed the call of the entire Eritrea people and relinquish the apologizing.
      when you disagreed with the late M. Gabir about the genesis of the Eritrean revolution, he rhetorically asked you if you have been baptized in Filfil to which your replied, “no in fact I have been baptized in Ela Abdella 🙂
      You still strike me as baptized in Tekli, immediatley after the Qeshi IA ‘s Qdasse and Sheik Romadan’s daewa:-)

    • Hayat Adem

      Okay Gheteb, What are we saying here:
      1) “Among all the forces that have been buffeting the nascent nation (state) of Eritrea, probably ethnicism and ethnic politics poses the most formidable existential threat.”

       Okay, that means we have to address it, solve it, deal with it, do something about it, whatever…because it is existentional!

      2) “The Eritrean Afaris are central in the Eritrean narrative (i.e., the narrative about the struggle of independence and thereafter)”

       Okay that means they are Eritrea and Eritrea is them; no Eritrea without them. They should be treated as indispensible fabrics of the Eritrean nationhood. Anyone messing with them is messing up with existence of Eritrea.

      3) “I am very sympathetic to their viewpoint and awareness of ‘maltreatments’ and their perception of being under assault either by the Eritrean government or the Tigrigna ethnic group.”

       what, they are being maltreated by the government and the Tigrigna group?! You are kidding me! Didn’t we say they are important? Didn’t we say ethnicism can be existentially dangerous? How come the government and the Tig group are so irresponsible about a maltreatment that has existential consequences on Eritrea? That is very uncool. In fact, that is very uncool (repeated for emphasis).

      4) “However, I don’t subscribe to the notion that the Eritrean government is deliberately excluding, persecuting, discriminating and ethnically cleansing the Afaris of Eritrea.”

       Now, don’t play with me! Deliberate or not, why does it matter? If they are putting Eritrea’s existence in danger by maltreating the Afars, in effect and in essence, what is the point of arguing the logic of innocent mistake? What does knowing that mistakes were done not deliberately help if Eritrea ceases to exist because of the same mistakes? Definitely, you are either overplaying the importance of the Afars or underplaying the mistakes of mistreating them. Pick one of them but, either ways, you will end up well.

      5) I am of the belief that almost all that ails Eritrea and Eritreans is attributable to the simple facts that Eritrea is still a young and emergent nation with all the attendant symptoms of growing pains (newness, sanction, war, external threat)

       Wait a minute: You said nothing matches ethnicism as an issue of existential threat to Eritrea. A paragraph later, all you listed are external and you forgot to count it as one? You are not counting the Eritrean Afars as outsiders, are you?

      6) “I believe that once all the existential threats to Eritrea are dealt with and rendered harmless to Eritrea’s nationhood, then Eritrea must start to look inwards and apply these concepts of decentralization by creatively wedding them to the rich culture of the Afari Eritreans.”

       Funny! That is it. That is what you are trying to tell us: “Don’t ask questions now; ask them later.” When? “After all external threats are neutralized”. Well, who said internal rights and threats have to wait until kingdom comes (sorry until all external problems are addressed)? “Well, we are not waiting. In fact, we have been discussing them since the 2nd congress. Power devolution and decentralization are not new concepts to us..blablabla”

       There is an easy and better way to support the rotten, nation killer PFDJ. They say, “A fool always wins by saying ‘No!’” We can understand when you simply and blindly support IA and his group. Just don’t complicate our understanding by trying to reason and justify. You don’t need to justify. We don’t ask you to shoulder that burden. Just support!
      Hayat

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Dear Hayat

        I love your systematic logics of your argument where you put Ghteteb in a precarious situation. I am afraid, he might escape from your prosecutorial questions by saying ” you are not from my league” – his popular way of escaping tactics. We shell see him if he comes with new tools of defense from the house of the despot. Great rebut.

        Regards
        Amanuel Hidrat

      • Ted

        Hi Hayat, you don’t waste time looking for a crack in Ghetab’s viewpoints to make it look like admission of systemic prosecution of Afars by Eritrean Gov. It is not.It is true the Afar people were one of many disadvantaged groups in all aspect of socio-economic standards comparing to Tigrigna speaking Eritreans in the past. It will be pitiful, If it is still true now that Afars deserve all the respect and opportunities Eritrea has to offer that they believed and sacrificed equally for Eritrea as everyone else. It is from this point of view i also sympathise with their grievance no matter its scope is. Unfortunate for you, it was the galant EPLF which sealed the deal back then, still accepted by all now, for every group to get its share of Eritrea without discrimination. Do you see how the organization you love to hate checkmate you with every corner you think you can fan the flames.

        • Hayat Adem

          Hi Ted,
          “Hi Hayat, you don’t waste time looking for a crack in Ghetab’s viewpoints to make it look like admission of systemic prosecution of Afars by Eritrean Gov.”
          1) Cracks have to be dealt with, specially cracks that come to cover up crimes and defend the culprits.
          2) No, I have no problem with systematic prosecutions (none in Eritrea); My problem is only with systematic persecutions (plenty in Eritrea).
          3) Me, flames? The last 4 or 5 articles and most of the comments are about the issue of rights suffocation and marginalization by the system. Gheteb sensed it as a sleeping monster. PFDJ’s solution for every ethnic problems has never been solving them at policy level but suppressing and containing them.

          • Ted

            Hi Hayat, you are a piece of work
            “looking for a crack” = was a reminder not to look for it b/c you won’t find it. Read the whole thing to understand you are looking for a muck to bath in, only pigs do that.
            Systemic prosecution; even your friend Amanuel Hidrate ,the self professed advocator of harmony in Eritrea to his end, has not gone that far.
            Fanning the flame, again, if it is genuine grievance, there is no country more equipped than Eritrean to deal with it appropriately. Unfortunately, your people in the south could not say the same. Thanks God you are in to fanning when it comes to TPLF’s monkey business.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Hi Ted,

            What is the matter with you? I consider you as a brother and a friend (Both ways) even if we have different positions on the regime of Asmsra. Don ‘ t you think so? You are equally the same to me.

          • Ted

            Hi Amanuel, i am glad you contested my comment. First you are being taken advantage of for what you believe in. The “self professed” is to indicate your unwavering support to Hayat who is antithesis to what you make us believe. More often than not, i believed you to be genuine in the pursuit of harmony and then again, you go back to your ways using this noble cause for your political advantage. Now, do you believe there is systematic persecution of Afars that Hayat want to portray..

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Hi Ted,

            The afar organization presented the grievance of the Eritrean Afar social group. I believe all Eritrean social groups should present their grievances against the tyrannical regime, including the tigrigna social group by the way. It is only when they did that we can frame a solution collectively once for all. Remember all our social groups is not necessary to have the same grievances. I have recognized the grievances of our Afar brothers and will heed to bring the issue to the conscience of our people to address them. If you have any qualms about it please say it.

            regards.

          • Hayat Adem

            Hi Ted,
            “Now, do you believe there is systematic persecution of Afars that Hayat want to portray.” How did I try to portray Afar as under systematic persecution? I didn’t say or imply that, did I? Why do you find it necessary to put with that assertion falsely?
            Disclaimer: I am not saying it is happening or it is not happening. I’m saying I never said anything to either effect. But Gheteb said it and then he wanted to retract. I was showing that. Deal with him if you have to.

          • Ted

            Hi Hayat, you know we don’t go back digging out old posts, only debate in real time.I apologize if it is from your 6 hrs old post. “No, I have no problem with systematic prosecutions (none in Eritrea); My problem is only with systematic persecutions (plenty in Eritrea).” let me see how you wiggle out of this if the problem of ( plenty) systemic persecution in Eritrea is what you don’t believe in.

          • Hayat Adem

            Hi Ted,
            Prosecution (none): is the milk (rule of law) we are advised by you to be the only thing we should seek. Remember. That is the only thing missed, need to be sough and all will be well, you said. I didn’t agree with you that is the only thing we are missing but I joined by saying even that will take us a long way. It was not specific to Afar. Persecution is the absence of due process of prosecution: So the same thing. But Gheteb said it: he was mindful of it; he was sympathetic and he appealed for patience until external threats are neutralized. You said nothing about that acknowledgement and sympathy.

          • Ted

            Hi Hayat, you didn’t disappoint. You tried to wiggle out from”SYSTEMIC persecution(plenty) you believed exist in Eritrea. Persecution is universal in Eritrea but Systemic and( plenty) is serious accusation you can’t defend.
            Ghedli, not PFDJ, is the argument. For that, EPLF did wrong to fellow Eritreans(ELF) by cooperating with TPLF just to get the monopoly in the ground. We have lost many who could have contributed for current Eritrea if it were handled”Eritrean matters by Eritreans”. We are still paying for it.
            The problem i have with Abi is not that he discouraged me from suckling his cows using the bitter plant(እረ) but he wanted to knock my teeth off so i can’t graze the God given grass in my own yard. And i ressent you passing him the stone to do that.

          • Hope

            Bingo Ted!

        • Music Novice

          Greetings Ted,

          You said: “you don’t waste time looking for a crack in Ghetab’s viewpoints …”

          There is no crack in Gheteb’s arguments, the crack is in her head.

          • Ted

            Hi MN, i agree. The fact she wishs there is one tells you how her head works.You need to undrestand her dislike for Ghedli that Ghedli left her no wiggling room for her mischief.

          • Hayat Adem

            Ted,
            And the other day, I gave tones of quotes from MN against ghedli. Revisit. So, dislike us both or like us both. Be consistent. It won’t kill you.

          • Ted

            Hi Hayat, i don’t need your out of context post to what MN really said. I remember it well what he responded to me, we had plenty of it. He told me EPLF is part of history and we need to leave at that. He also said No guerilla fighter ever accomplished true democracy. i disagree with it b/c democracy needs time and work especially in Africa.We all have some reservation when it comes to Ghedli’s past. For example, mine, Ghedli is not all saint in my book, TPLF-EPLF alliance against ELF is one thing i strongly condemn no matter its reasoning and they need to apologize(I don’t know if the greatest already did;-).

          • Hayat Adem

            Ted,
            Is it the military action and its results or the alliance of those forces that you condemn? Would it have been okay with if EPLF did it without going into alliance, or you still condemn it? Can you clearly call on IA to officially apologize what he did on ELF right here, right now? What is your stand on the news of the recent arrest by the Sudanese government on the ELF leaders?

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Hayat,

            All (a) the unholly alliance (b) the action (c) and the result. Because the alliance is done to bring some result with some actions – the bloody war and the eviction of ELF. Why do you try to split this insepetable strategy and tactics. Did I smell something from your qjestions?

            Regards

          • Hayat Adem

            Hi Emma,
            No, there is nothing to smell in this. I’m only trying to test Ted if his concession on what happened to ELF as a mistake by the alliance comes as a strategy of diffusing the accusation off the shoulders of the EPLF because he thinks TPLF was there to share part of the blame or out of a genuine will to do justice to the wronged. Remember, EPLF/PFDJ had done a lot of mistakes and crimes, and the only example he felt generous to admit is a shared and remote event.
            Hayat

      • ‘Gheteb

        Now hold on and take a deep breath, Hayat Adem

        I think you are missing some points, wittingly or unwittingly, here. Let me see if I can manage in deconstructing them into manageable morsels that you may be able to masticate and chew on .

        Firstly, do recheck the very definition of ETHNICISM rendered above. Here the point that I am underscoring is that the very “Consciousness of or emphasis on ethnic identity or culture” is a potent centrifugal force that will rend Eritrea asunder. With Eritrea’s unity gone kaput, then “Eritrea” will be a playground for all manners of political actors, be they Abyssinian fundamentalists, federalists and the purveyors of ethnic politics in our region.

        Secondly, you were bloviating and hectoring when you said:

        “Okay, that means we have to address it, solve it, deal with it, do something about it, whatever…because it is existentional(sic)”.

        The way you “address [ethnicism].., solve,.. and deal with it”, is simply by NOT toying with it. I mean not playing with ethnic politics, ethnic politics and “Kililization” a la the Weyanes. Eritrea has precisely done that. Let alone did Eritrea has subordinated ethnicism and doing its utmost to keep ethnicism at bay, Eritrea vehemently opposed the Weyanes policies of ethnicism and ethnic politics in Ethiopia.

        Well, who wants to see citizens of a nation at each others throat, be they Oromos against Amharas, Amahars against Tigrians and the Nuers against the Anuaks because of ethnicism. I am telling and you that your Ethiopia may turn into a cauldron of ethnic strife if ethnicism and ethnic politics is not discarded done away with very soon.

        Thirdly, you are trying to be “cute” here when you claimed facetiously:

        “what, they are being maltreated by the government and the Tigrigna group?! You are kidding me! Didn’t we say they are important? Didn’t we say ethnicism can be existentially dangerous? How come the government and the Tig group are so irresponsible about a maltreatment that has existential consequences on Eritrea?”

        What I asserted was:

        “In point of fact, I am very sympathetic to their viewpoint and awareness of ‘maltreatments’ and their perception of being under assault either by the Eritrean government or the Tigrigna ethnic group.”

        Here you may need to pay attention to the operative words and phrases such as “their viewpoint and awareness of ‘maltreatment’ ” “their perception”. Let me try to simplify what I am saying by way of rendering an example.

        Your,Hayat Adem’s (HA), perception and viewpoint of ‘Gheteb (‘G) is that “he has been UNFAIR and UNFIENDLY to you”. You awareness is that of ‘maltreatment’ by ‘G. Now suppose that that in reality ‘Gheteb is neither unfriendly nor friendly to HA. Moreover, ‘G is neither fair or unfair to HA. I mean ‘G is neutral and all those ‘things’ are in HA’s head.

        You see, Perception is not equal to reality as maltreatment is not the same as ‘maltreatment’. Therefore, you missed my points big time and by a mile.

        Fourthly, here you are trying to do some verbal gymnastics and ending up simply blowing hot air when you say:

        ” Now, don’t play with me! Deliberate or not, why does it matter? If they are putting Eritrea’s existence in danger by maltreating the Afars, in effect and in essence, what is the point of arguing the logic of innocent mistake? What does knowing that mistakes were done not deliberately help if Eritrea ceases to exist because of the same mistakes? Definitely, you are either overplaying the importance of the Afars or underplaying the mistakes of mistreating them. Pick one of them but, either ways, you won’t end up well.”

        All I said was this:

        “I don’t subscribe to the notion that the Eritrean government is deliberately excluding, persecuting, discriminating and ethnically cleansing the Afaris of Eritrea.”

        Now tell me by what bizarre mental alchemy did you understand what I wrote to trigger and induce such a verbal diarrhea from your part. Again, I don’t think you got the points I imparted in that sentence.

        Fifthly, here you display your utter failure in grasping the term “ethniccism”, again, when you say :

        ” Wait a minute: You said nothing matches ethnicism as an issue of existential threat to Eritrea. A paragraph later, all you listed are external and you forgot to count it as one? You are not counting the Eritrean Afars as outsiders, are you?”

        Again, please refer to the previous points as I think you don’t seem to see the relations and
        interplay between external threats and ethnicism.

        Sixthly, what you inveighed here is your stock-in-trade “anti-PFDJ” spiel that I am so familiar with. I have responded to it more than adequately and the only thing I would advise you to do is to refer to your NOTES. I have addressed issues ranging from why you hate the PFDJ and what PFDJ means to Eritrea and Eritreans in contemporary Eritrean politics.

        • Music Novice

          Greetings ‘Gheteb,

          You said: “”Eritrea” would turn into a playground for all manners of political
          actors, be they Abyssinian fundamentalists, federalists and the
          purveyors of ethnic politics in our region.”

          I may add to the above list those who insist to link fairy tale religious dogma to politics.

          I would also like to confirm that your original post was logically sound. Trust me, I have a better acquaintance with the subject of logical analysis i.e. I would have pointed out problems myself if there were any.

          Furthermore, replying to every dunderhead allegation is not only a futile and a time wasting exercise but also clogs bandwidth. In such a situation, a one liner will suffice as the original post was detailed enough.

          • Hayat Adem

            Greetings MN,
            You said this: “Trust me, I have a good acquaintance with the subject of logical analysis i.e. I would have pointed out problems myself if there were any.”
            Interesting: 1st you gave Gheteb’s analysis a pass. Then, you hinted to us about your authority and expertise on analyzing an analysis. Then, you assured him that you would have pointed out problems there were some.
            Conclusion: Since you are the expert and you have found nothing wrong or lacking in Gheteb’s note, whatever is said by others in deviation from this expert opinion of your has no bearing at all. Certified, signed, notarized!
            Do you see how terrible you sound here? I say, I can wait 5 months until I get back the sensible MN.
            Hayat.

          • Music Novice

            Greetings Hayat,

            What are your credentials as far as Eritrea is concerned?

            When and where did you live in Eritrea?

            Where did you work?

            If you answer these questions then I would be obliged to answer yours. Otherwise, I owe you nothing.

          • Nitricc

            Hi MN, you are wasting your time; but let me step in and tell you as is!
            Q ) What are your credentials as far as Eritrea is concerned?
            A) With out the help of TPLF, Eritrean independence would never have materialized.
            Q ) When and where did you live in Eritrea?
            A ) In the center of Adi-grat where the Indian troops set a food center to feed the hungry Tigryans.

            Q ) Where did you work?
            A ) at the Ethiopian Embassy in Washington DC; as image enhancer of the TPLF regime while inspecting and reporting every word written uttered in the all Eritrean forums.
            Q ) If you answer these questions then I would be obliged to answer yours. Otherwise, I owe you nothing.
            A) I once fooled Nitricc; he revile his and I fooled him, learn from him and don’t ask me this kind questions.

          • Music Novice

            Greetings Nitricc,

            The reason I am asking these questions is because I do not war to waste my time arguing endlessly with some one who has not made any contribution/input, one way or another, to Eritrea.

          • Hayat Adem

            Greetings MN,
            “I do not want to waste my time arguing endlessly with some one who has not made any positive contribution/input, one way or another, to Eritrea.”
            Why do you need “contribution”* as a precondition to participate in a discourse?
            ————
            * What kind of contributions, btw? Why do you not want to acknowledge participating in Eritrean discourse as a contribution? Does it have to be ELF/EPLF, 2%?, Sawa? National Service? Ghedli? PFDJ? YPFDJ? Mekhete? Is that what you are expecting to hear from me?

          • Nitricc

            Hey MN; Once I ask the Tigryan woman, Hayat the same question and I told her my story. I was expecting she will tell me where in Eritrean she belongs and she never did. Although, I know she is Christian and deep from Adi-Grat . How do I know that? Because she told us she used kick it with the late Kiros Alemayo. Can you imagine a Tigryan man sleeping with a Muslim woman?
            Don’t waste your time she is paid TPLF agent. Worst she is very deceptive.

          • Abraham Hanibal

            Hi Nitricc and Awate Moderators,
            In my opinion Nitricc is trespassing the posting guidelines when he calls Hayat for a “Tigryan woman” and a “paid TPLF agent”, when he doesn’t have any proof at all. This is to bring to your attention, moderators, so that you could react the way you see it fit.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Abraham butt kissing aside; do you any proof that Hayat is a Muslim Eritrean woman? Do you have a proof she is Eritrean? Dude, take it easy; you are way out of line. And please have self respect stop kissing up to an old Tigryan man who pretending to be an Eritrean woman. Respect your self!

          • Abraham Hanibal

            Hi Nitricc,
            Setting aside your dirty language; I’ve to tell you I’m even not sure if you are Eritrean, Tigryan or American; a man or woman, etc. but I’ve to take everything at face value here in this virtual world. Apart from a few ones, most of us are using pen-names, and we do not know of each other. But there are posting guidelines in this website and they’ve to be respected. That is what I’m reminding the moderators to do, though I know it is upto them to take the decision.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Aman there is nothing dirty than stooping than defending something you don’t belong too. why? all i am saying is respect yourself. you don’t have to be an Eritrean to have self respect just be dignified human being.

          • Music Novice

            Greetings Abraham H.,

            Why is calling someone a “Tigryan Woman” trespassing the guidelines?

            Few days ago, I was called a paid PFDJ agent, but it did not bother me.

            Nitricc has been called many names on this forum and you did not complain about it. You are a hypocrite.

          • sara

            Dear handbag,
            Is CALLING SOMEONE ” Tigryan woman” wrong? I don’t think so, And what is wrong if a Tigryan is a paid agent to tplf
            Or eprdf , actually that is a duty of most those we read here from the south, an and I respect them for that , besides
            Let us respect the moderators and not interfere in their job.
            Good day.

          • sara

            Sory, it is to dear hanibal,

          • Hope

            Dear Abrehan the Hypocrite :
            Where were when some one called MN a PFDJ paid Agent?

            Selective discrimination?

            On what basis ?

            FOR being ,apparently a PFDJ supporter and for having a different opinion ?

          • Hayat Adem

            Nitricc,
            I don’t do extramarital stuff. Do you have family values? The great Kiros may have families who would be sensitive to such stuff so be considerate for them. There are values you need to be self-conscious about when interact publicly. We asked not to lie many times to no avail. We asked you not to insult others many times, to no avail. We are asking to respect other families that are not part of the game. Some of us still respect our family values, remember? It is only people like who don’t care when sticking their tongues onto any object or non-object. Sem A. correctly described you are here as a product of cloning. Maybe, he struck the hole. Clones can be pardoned of crimes of cultural trespassing.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Hayat; Please don’t blame me for this. you are the one you open your mouth and shared with us that Kiros was your man, a man died in mid 80’s. I did the math and the proper analysis and i wondered why the hell are you here. Aren’t you a little old for this? i know your poodles are coming after me, the likes of Abraham and Semere but they can never hide the truth for what you are.

          • Hayat Adem

            For those who don’t know the history of Kiros, me and Nitricc:
            1) This shallow kid thinks he is free to say and play things. He thinks the sun is designed and made to fit the liking of IA. Nothing else matters for him. Lying is okay. Annoying is okay. To sound and look stupid and dumb is okay. Embarassing others unnecessarily is okay. Hurting others is okay. Badmouthing and insulting the entire Africa is okay. Belittling the power of God, religions and faiths is okay. Contempt over anything under the sun is okay. The only one thing he cares and remembers is a fact he created for him self: IA exists above the Sun. It is difficult to talk sense with such a person. A rock always beats you and it doesn’t matter you are on the top or beneath. But, I sometimes use (as opposed to address him) Nitricc to pass a message of my own to others.
            2) I picture and remember Kiros as one of the great Tigrigna singers of our time, and he is an icon of his own league. This is a truth attested not just by me but by many respected Eritrean voices, as well. Yemane Barya’s words were, “Kiros moitu ente elkumuni, Tigrigna moita”. Bereket had/has high regards for Kiros. Abraham Afeworki had even better words. “If Ethiopia and Eritrea stayed at peace for ten more years, and Kiros and Yemane were still alive, imagine what you and I could have done at this time bringing every Tigrigna artist together.” This was in 2008 Abraham talking to Iyassu Berhe. Iyassu was so moved (intoxicated) and asked Abraham to even push the time reset little back and include other icons like GebreTsadiq. Both entered the hallucination of marveling at the wish itself and stayed talking about it for a while so much so they had to be waken up by a 3rd person from the dream-talk.
            3) Kiros died in mid 1990 (not 80s, so much for Nitrric’s math). He was a good friend of Berekhet. He helped Berekhet a lot in the early 90s including by providing him with a full band, concert halls in Addis. Berket was sort of passing through hurdles of ex-communication in Asmara during those times and he was very grateful about Kiros’ help. Berekhet was very outspoken about it. After Kiros died, he was understandably so sad. He said then he would be studying one best song of Kiros and would be singing all the time he held concerts in his tribute. I learned all this from Berekhet. I don’t know how it came up but I remember sharing this knowledge of Kiros and Berekhet to forumers here. Nitricc knows nothing more than this. But he kept on saying it again and again without shame. Shame? Does he even know the word?
            4) Wherever there is cult, there is vulgarity. About 20yrs ago, PIA did something bad and everyone including the victim couple excused him attributing it to “under the influence of alcohol”. Silul endiyu, entesetiyu eko zegebro ayfelitin. If the couple could easily excuse him that way, there was no much else to be bothered about but at least vulgarity was noted. This is the story (again, Nitricc, this is not fabricated, everyone who was in the party hall of the hotel on that evening saw it): PIA was kissing a married woman, married to a well known and respected tegadaly artist in front of his own wife, and the husband of the woman (a celebrity artist), and in front of all attendees. It started slow with a slow dance after a hot guaila and it was the lady who offered the invitation to dance with the president. I would think she was just looking for the honor of dancing with head of state/ worshiped hero/ the cultishly Lion of Naqfa and whatever else was playing in her mind. I didn’t think she was up to the awkward moment to come though. After some moves and amidst the intimate social dancing, the president was kissing the lady, and the lady was quietly being kissed. Some conscious aids jumped into a forced dancing to encircle and cover him from being seen by people. But many had witnessed it and all the famous singer (name withheld) said was “Silul endiyu, entesetiyu!”
            4) A group of people went out for a night camping. Before they slept, they were talking about the different powers and particularities of wild animals. Then they fell asleep. Amidst the intimidating thick darkness, they heard a strange scary sound. The person closer to the sound asked the other next to her (her husband), “did you hear that, what is it?”. Her husband responded back in the same whispering tone, “shush, be quiet; it is a bear eating my leg.”
            hayat

          • Semere Andom

            Hayat:
            Such anecdote about IA are many and only for what you described he should have been shot. I also think that it was not the alcohol, it was IA’s design to humiliate the artist.
            He goes to Intercontinental and he flirts with the wife of a famous writer, “steyi, nsika dimma tsubuq neger tsehaf”, he would say, the wife blushed, the husband is embarrassed, goal accomplished, the man is emasculated. He will never stand up to IA for taking the country to its destruction if he cannot protect his honor.
            But the famous story about IA was in Khartoum, he had the hots of this “hanfets” girl and IA was in the house of a famous supporter, a rich woman. The beauty was living with her before she proceeded to go to Kuwait. She refused tegadalai IA’s advances, he pleaded, he promised to marry her but our beauty’s reply was adamant, she told him point blank that she going to her fiance in Kuwait, which was truth. When I heard this story, I wanted to meet that beauty, to tell her how proud I was about her, and I never forgotten the story. The story is from reliable sources.
            The wife of the famous singer should have slapped IA, her husband should have shot/punched IA, but as you said that is how low we have gone because those in power are vulgar, stripping us not only of our rights but also of our honor

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Music Novice,
            .
            It is so unfortunate sometimes for the average Awatistas to miss out on what could have been uniquely educating moment.
            .
            Both you and Hayat in a clear and unambiguous fashion could have stated your positions and attempt to persuade each other of the cost benefit of the options you chose.
            .
            Hayat, Amanuel Hidrat and that camp want some kind of peoples army or a rebellion group with or without outside help to fight their way to Asmara and clean house.
            SAAY and Music Novice will opt for reforming the existing system with changes at the top.
            This is way over my head simplification of the positions of these folks. That is how I understood it and that is why M.N’s approach to be the least costly to me.( I declare I have no outside agenda)
            .
            I am convinced and I also believe, M.N and Hayat to be persuadable individuals if a well argued position and clean good exchange develops in the process. In the event one cannot persuade the other, at the very least the gap will be narrower and students of Awatista U. will be the beneficiary in the process.
            .
            The other effective and time tested customary method, of course, is to Nitricc (sorry) each other and every one will be a little bit diminished.
            .
            Mr. K.H

          • Hayat Adem

            Okay MN,
            I didn’t see those questions coming from you in my direction. That was because some one with “good acquaintance with the subject of logical analysis” is fairly equipped to last the idea battle before asking for credential documents. Or are you now acting like a NYC cab?
            It is always funny it invariably comes down to this. What do I know about MN except that it stands for Minnesota? The point is I wouldn’t care. What is this running to hide behind deflections when the going gets tough. Is Tolstoy an accredited psychiatrist? Is Akililu? Do the G-15 have enough credentials to be counted and discussed here as victims?
            My friend, it is not my first time to hear those kinds of trenched run-into exit questions from friend who lost the idea battle. Like you said, you owe me nothing. But, that must also be true from my end. I owe you nothing. We are discussing issues and not managing an HR department here. If you have to say any ththing, you are welcome and I don’t ask credentials on anything. I also feel I don’t need your invitation or certification to speak my mind when I feel I’ve something to say.
            hayat

          • Music Novice

            Greetings Hayat,

            What is the problem?

            If I am asked similar questions I will be able to answer them in addition to describing events that happened during those times.

          • Hayat Adem

            Greetings MN,
            I’ll do the same if I believe what I’m being asked has any value to the issue being discussed. Or if the question is to verify whether I was a credible witness to a specific event I claim I was a witness to. Neither was the case here.
            Hayat

        • Ayneta

          Gheteb:

          Your commentary sufferes from two fundamental flaws:

          1. Lacks substabce and projection. If any ethinc group like Afar which assume ‘extential threat’ are diaadvantaged for any reason by the central goveremnt, then it should be addressed NOW and not pretend as if it doesn’t exist for the sake of ‘not toying with it’. It is lame and irresponsible because you can pretend all you want, but it is a clear and present danger. How long can you go on overlooking the problem anyays? As long as IA rules with an iron fist? Your analysis is weak because it advocates subversion/pretention over reality/dialogue .

          2. You are write to impress. This is a weakness with people who write to show the reader that they have a good command of the English Langiage by using words and phrases that are testimony of your GRE ( Graduate Record Examination) knowledge. I bet you took GRE and scored well. I sense rout memorization of words and the urge to spit them out from you. The fundamental problem with writing impress is you don’t convey your idea clearly. Honestly, you also seem to try to hide your weak argument with high-flying words that don’t reflect your ideas. Your style tells of a an individual who is desperate to be accepted as a good writer, only that you are using the wrong tool. Shed that attitude off and you will fee free again, and we will enjoy your ideas better.

          • Nitricc

            HI Ayneta; you are one amazing hypocrite. You are all over me because my writing is toothless and now you are allover Gahteb because he writes superb? You better not pick on my writings because I will grow on you like a fungus.
            Amazing!

          • Hayat Adem

            Nitricc,
            “I will grow on you like a fungus*.”
            You have cut out an inspiring mission that suits you well, my dear:)
            ——-
            *fungus = abnormal growth.

          • Semere Andom

            Hi Ayneta:
            The writing and speaking to impress are PFDJ malice. The Tigrinya they speak and write no one can understand. And the worst thing is that this is creeping into the life of an Eritrean, in romance, in social interaction, family, people write and speak to impress and not to communicate. Do not take my word for it, just pay attention to how the Eritreans are expressing themselves nowadays The Tig does not make sense, but they think they are hip when talking in alien words and literally translated words. I am shocked that IA did not call the Dam, tsaeda harmaz or Ede zaidet nayna ta (Tigriyat: for the upper hand is ours) when talking about the fight against terrorism
            Gheteb is a dictionary, he has access to vast vocabulary. Impeccable! he is also smart, but a lousy writer and he heavily uses thesaurus to find alternative words that impress. I teased him in a comment, I was kidding, and I did not go to school with him

          • Ayneta

            Semere Andom:
            I am laughing right now, seriously. You reminded of the Eritrean movies with actors whose throw at you barrage of philosophical lines making you feel you are reading a philosophy book. It is a deal breaker for me. I cant stand it.

            Seriously, I dont harbor any hard feelings towards Gheteb. In fact, I like him, he seems informed. But his words are made unnecessarily difficult. I am sure he would do a better job if he takes it easy on his selection of words and focus on substance. He must be a product of a culture that emphasizes on heavy vocabulary as as a sign of intelligence.

          • Nitricc

            DId I talk to you?
            How about you shut your freaking mouth and talk with people wants to talk you?

          • Hayat Adem

            Hi Nitricc,
            A person was walking fast into a crowd in a city street. Another one was coming from an opposite direction. And they clashed. One was faster to complain: “why don’t you walk keeping your lane and line?” The 2nd one answered, “I didn’t miss you, did I?”
            The point: I don’t necessarily always talk back to people who talked to me because what they could be adequate on the subject. I talk to people who I think need be talked to because what they said could be lacking and therefore a gap I may feel needs to be corrected or filled.
            Hayat

          • Semere Andom

            Hi Hayat:
            This is heavy stuff. You need to make your metaphor simple for your subject to absorb it
            Can you imagine Nitricc getting his dream job, the commander of Sawa then when the president of Eritrea challenges him he would tell him, did I talk to you

          • Hayat Adem

            Ahh Nitircc,
            Where is Mamuday? Did he give up on Nitricc? Why is he not guiding his mentee.
            “Why did you call yourself fungus, man?”
            “THAT WAS AN EXPRESSION”
            “Well, pick another expression!”
            “IT DIDN’T WORK WITH THIS GUAL ADEM.”
            “Don’t talk to her. Leave her to me.”
            “I TRIED THAT, TOO. SHE SAID SHE WILL NOT LEAVE ME”
            “Well, don’t worry son. i know what to do with her.”
            “WHAT IS IN YOUR MIND”
            “I’ve a weapon that you don’t”
            “WHAT IS IT?”
            “I talk deep stuff, deep ghedli stuff, deep awet nHafash stuff, deep patriotic stuff…she doesn’t seem to know about such stuff”
            “YOU ARE RIGHT. I WILL ASK AND CHALLENGE HER WITH QUESTIONS”.
            “Do you know the answers yourself?”
            “THAT IS THE PROBLEM. I WILL JUST CALL HER A TPLF PAID AGENT.”
            Mahmuday, in a low voice as if whispering to himself: “ata ‘tay eye zigebro ezi seb, ezi 7 zuryatat sawa atiyu kiTmeQ alewo, ‘mber aykridi’on eiu”
            “WHAT DID YOU SAY? IS THAT A GOOD PLAN?”
            “Gud tigelbeTkha, siq be hijji atyteSmimeni”
            “I GUESS YOU LOOK TIRED, LET ME SAY YOUR FAVORITE SLOGAN TO INSPIRE YOU: eWeT NIHafaSH!!!!”
            “kid ‘ta tiFaE, aytera’eyeni. tekal foshfash!”

          • Ted

            Hi Hayat, your are due to second manifesto. This time do it with less tears.

          • Hayat Adem

            Hi Ted the Great,
            Make me, I promise, no tears now. There was none before. Why is everyone feeling they can be “Saay the Moderator”? Believe me, that was the only item I considered then. The rest is a fair play.
            Well, I don’t enjoy bad mouthing, to telly the truth but they don’t make me run away either. The truth is, I’m entitled to stay here as much as everyone else is. No less, no more as matter of right. As matter of fact, I have to enjoy it and the standard needs to be to my taste.
            The only time I will only feel unwelcome is when it comes from the owner of the House. On the flip-side, why are you thinking this is a place I can’t live without. Let me ask you a personal question, why do you want me to go that much, Ted? Do you like talking to conformists only, typical character of IA?
            Hayat

          • Ted

            Hi Hayat, c’mon now. I see you tearing up. Conforming is the only way , no other way around it. Everything else come with it. Tell you a joke. An Eritrean were invited to Abi’s house and were treated with እርጎ፣አይብ,,ወተት፣ ቅቤ and all by products of COW milk, then Abi went to the Eritrean house and all he got was a big jug of milk. Abi disappointed asked where is,እርጎ፣አይብ,,፣ ቅቤ and the Eritrean responded ወስጢ(inside) referring all is found in a milk. Just to show you can solve all our problems if we conform PFDJ to respect justice and rule of law. Don’t be asking for Yogurt, ask for milk.
            PS. I don’t want you leaving, at least for SA sake, he would be lost otherwise;-)

          • Hayat Adem

            Hi Ted,
            This one is less tense and it feels good. Okay, can you join me in asking for the milk now and here? That will take us a long way on a common road. The problem is you would say, “why do you ask for all that? Can’t you be smart? Don’t you know getting milk can answer to all that? Are you told by the Langley to ask for all those diary variants?” At the end, you are not, you are not offering the milk, either.
            Real Interview with PIA NYC in 2010:
            VOA Tig Journalist: kibur President, Eritreans who are always readily supporting the government in the diaspora community are complaining about the delay of the houses they have paid for in full. They asked me to ask you, when are you going to deliver them?
            PIA: Okay, I tell you, even as a matter of wishing the best for Eritreans, i always think, every Eritrean to have at least 3 house: 1 in Asmara, 1 in the coast, and another one in the countryside. Every Eritrean deserves to have that. And I honestly always think about such things.
            It was so noticeable the journalist was so fooled and overjoyed by the high wish he heard from the president by the smiles he displayed end to end and he forgot seeking a direct answer for his question and left it there. I would have yelled (sorry, I can’t yell, he is the president), I would have said, “show me or tell me something the houses, that are paid for but not delivered yet in 10 years, Mr. President! Are the people who paid and waiting going to get them and if yes when?”
            So, Ted, my friend, milk (rule of law) is good enough for me, but can I get it now?
            ————
            Ted, you know Ethiopians have a long memory, don’t you? Why are you reminding Abi of the 90kk cows and the milk again?

          • Abi

            Hi Ted
            You see how hospitable Ethiopians are? We provide everything we have . It is shame you have been milking 90 million cows forever and you don’t even know how to make cheese out of it. You are too lazy and took the cows for granted.
            It is time to milk the Afar camels and goats.

          • Dear Ted,
            I am sure you have tasted Habesha foods cooked with qibe. Always delicious and superb. Have you eaten any food cooked with milk? Most probably, never. Do you know how much milk it takes to get a kg of qibe? May be ten times its weight. As milk is for children, qibe is for adults and PFDJ belongs to past history. The take-away message is, do not expect the dreamland of honey and milk under the PFDJ, reformed, conformed or otherwise. PFDJ is the cream of the cream of EPLF who have sworn devotion to DIA, not to Eritrea or its people. Nothing is going to change.

          • Ayneta

            Hayat:

            Hahahahahah…..that was cool stuff….too bad Niricc lacks the mental faculty to fathom what you wrote….he is a nutcase…..

          • George

            Dear Ayneta,
            Happy with your cousins joke! good to see two people from woyane enjoing eachother….like I told you before sooner or later the truth comes out….keep on exposing your woyne self….

          • Music Novice

            Greetings Ayneta,

            The Afar are important component of Eritrea as Gheteb claimed. But they are not oppressed for being Afar. Can you grasp this? This is Logic 101, as Hope would say.

          • Hope

            Aynom:
            That was gheteb’s opinion though,which does not necessarily mean that he is right or correct or wrong!
            Then out job is to constructively engage him with civility and decency ,not by attacking him or his persona like some have attempted to do so by calling him with names and accusing him for being a PFDJ Agent!
            Your Arguement makes sense!
            That is the purpose and the goal of constructive debate and forum ,which will eventually lead to to a Dialogue and Rapproachment so as to narrowen our minor difference and intersect at a point there by come to a common ground consensus and Guiding Principles and Conclusions!
            Let this guy and MN stay around so as to engage SAAY,SGJ,when fully recovered,and Mahmuday as well as Amanuel Hidrat among others,including Akhlilu Zere’ and Berhe Yohannes,not to forget Haile TG ,hoping that he is doing well and hoping that he will join the constructive Debate!
            Ted,Peace,Tes,Peace,Kokheb Selam ,Dr Sara Ogbay and Dr Chefena,Ustaz Beyan Negash,Nittric and other Eriteans and Ethiopians including the pragmatic and honest Ethios like Dr Fanti Ghana,Amde,Horizon and Addis and others are taken for granted to be part of the Constructive Debate!
            No discrimination by all and no means!

        • Hayat Adem

          Dear Gheteb,
          1) The “we” is to refer to those of who don’t understand how IA and his group are still winning the support of the “non-we”. I’m saying “we” here not because I belong to any organized group but simply because I’m assuming I’m not alone in this thought of IA and his group have overstayed their merit.
          2) Look, how else do you want me to understand you? You are the one who said “I am not terribly oblivious to the grievances and complaints of the Eritrean Afari people”, and then you said, “In point of fact, I am very sympathetic to their viewpoint and awareness of ‘maltreatment’ and their perception of being under assault either by the Eritrean government or the Tigrigna ethnic group.”; and then you said, “However, I don’t subscribe to the notion that the Eritrean government is deliberately excluding, persecuting, discriminating and ethnically cleansing the Afaris of Eritrea.” I should pay special attention to the words “oblivious”, “sympathetic”, “[not] deliberately”. The 1st word is about recognition of the problem, the 2nd word is about which side you are, and that i’e., you are sympathizing with the victim and the wronged. No one is sympathetic with a pretentious victim, or misperceived victim. The 3rd word, points to your defense and justification. Everything sounds logical: you are mindful of the marginalization; you sympathize with the victims on the receiving end; you only think that it has not been done deliberately and systematically.
          3) On your point of ethnicism, I’ve not missed a penny. In fact, I haven’t included my views. Like, Ted mentioned, I was showing the plenty faulty cracks in your analysis. Where there are lots of cracks, the truth falls through. When you talk of “grievances of the Afar”, “devolution of power” and “decentralization” in a single note; and you provide a definition of ethnicism to depart from as “Consciousness of or emphasis on ethnic identity or culture; ethnic self-determination or nationalism; ethnic separation”; and you state the fact that “ethnicism as the single most existential threat”, and you acknowledge the fact the the ruling (ruining) party started talking about it in 1990, and only pushed it to the back-burner for later time because of super urgent external threats”. Afars are one ethnic group. They have grievances you acknowledge from being wronged and you sympathize with them; you only think the problems were not systemic. On the other hand, you recognize the issues of power devolvement and decentralization are not adequately addressed because of more pressing issues of war, sanctions and other threats from outside. What else could the Afars be asking except those. But you are pushing their question for later time (as if 25yrs is not long enough for a policy deliberations and deliveries) while admitting ethinicism (as defined by yourself) is biggest threat, meaning that demands an immediate attention and solution.
          4) I would have liked you to come clean and explain your thoughts, Gheteb. But I know you can’t. Because PFDJ is out of the reach of logic and principled rationalization. So, I will understand if you tell me straight, “I just support them for the sake and heck of it”.
          Hayat

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Hayat,

            You said “……..a lot of cracks, the truth falls through “. A classic statement that encapsulate all the flaws of his argument sinking between the holes he dug in. You see Hayat, let me remind you, if ” Devolution and decentralization ” was in the mind of his leader in 1990, then why did they drafted a constitution that dipict centralized unitary governance in the mid 90s? Gheteb seem does not know the document. Anyway they are looking for leap service. With lies, they will never win arguments. We are laughing from the other end.

            regards
            Amanuel Hidrat

          • Peace!

            Selamat Emma,

            We are enjoying the debate between Gual Adem and Gheteb. I have no problem with you being a cheer leader or a backup singer, but allow me to remind you that you are not adding any value to the debate.

            Peace!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Hi peace,

            At least I gave you something to debate. Am I not peace? Check also my reply to hope.

          • Peace!

            Greeting Emma,

            ገንዘብካ although it was just the same reminder I learned from መምህር Amanuel Hidrat years ago. I just don’t know what happen to him when Gual Adem preaches. Is she playing with your emotions, I hope not?

            Peace!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Hi Peace,

            No emotion brother. I share my view in articles or essay forms, and people debate on them. That is why I am here in awate nation to borrow aklilu ‘s way of saying it.

            Amanuel Hidrat

          • Dis Donc

            *lip

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            thank you DD.

  • dawit

    Dear all Awates,
    It is amazing a Canadian university professor sits in a classroom and declare to create a state for Afars in Eritrea calling it EASE! He recite fabricated stories to create a separate history for Afar tribes from the rest of Eritrean people. He does not know that there is no separate land for Tigrigna, Tigre, Bilen, Kunama, Nara, Hidarb or other nationalities in Eritrea. There is only Eritrean land for Eritrean peoples speaking different languages. In every piece of Eritrean land precious Eritrean blood was paid for over a century to secure it and declare an independent Eritrean Nation. The professor should write about Canadian tribes whose land and culture was confiscated by the Anglo-French European Colonizers, putting the natives in prison called “Indian Reservation”, neglected to live under drug and alcohol instead of Eritrean people. Who said Massawa and Asab ports belong to Afar natives in Eritrea knowing what it took to liberate those ports? He need to learn about Fenkil, that destroyed the mighty Ethiopian Naval force built by Western and Easter block countries for over 50 years span.
    Long Live, PFDJ
    dawit

    • Hope

      You got it Dawit!
      I am fully aware and cognizant about this Prof and his SPONSORS behind the scene!

      Mrs Sofia Tesfamariam ” ate”him up piece by piece at one time,not just exposed him!
      But let us concur on one thing:
      There is some serious kind of socio-economic mischief among various Eri Social Groups and we as a people and Nation should address it the sooner the better!
      If you go to Eritrea,try to go to Denakalia and do some basic research on the alleged Socio-Economic Discrimination of the Eri Afars!
      The Eri Afars deserve better service than all other Afars in the world and :
      -let them fish,roam over Denkalia,sell the Fish and the Salt but in a legal manner!
      -Strengthen the Mobile Clincis and Boarding Schools and upgrade the Tio and Aseb Hospitals and other local Community Hospitals
      –Start with Denkalia Community College to be upgraded to Denkalia University once the Potash Mining starts for Export
      -Develop a Local Afari TV andcRadio(upgrade the existing ones) and improve an effective constructive propaganda against the TPLF Sponsored lies and fabrications!
      -Offer the RSADO Ambesty to work peacefully with other ERITREANS,if at all it is an ERITREAN Movement for. Justice,which is questionable based on the facts on the ground!
      The only thing I agreed with the hired Prof was on building Denkalia Univ, to be even named after our Hero Abdelkadir Kebire,the Eri-Afari Legend of legends !

      It is so simple and easy to make a:
      1)Happy
      2))Democratic
      3)Prosperous
      4)Peaceful
      5) a United and Strong Eritrea!
      But unfortunately,we are a perpetual VICTIMS of too much politics and Geo-political interest from within and from outside!

      It is so sad!
      I just ” hate” this Religion,Region,Tribe,Ukub,Ethnic based politicization of our situation as it will not be constructive!

  • AMAN

    IN ETHIOPIA
    What is this strange but backward thing that
    some people in Tigray are fatally romaticized
    and glued with the name TPLF and its past
    deeds which are worthless for the present
    realities. It is this abnormal pathological disorder
    of living in and with the past that and not letting
    go the past that dragged and unraveled every
    development the people, the EPRDF and the
    country registered. This is a huge blocking block
    between the normalization of peoples of Eritrea
    and Ethiopia and between Ethiopian peoples itself.
    That is whatever progress Ethiopia and its ruling
    bodies and the people has been doing is in turn
    erased and whitewashed by those who wouldn’t
    let their woyane/TPLF ( name and deeds) let go.
    The more they stick and glue to that name and
    discourse, the more they unravel and erode whatever
    EPRDF and the people think they achieved.
    So time to grow up and change the behavior and mindset
    and the name and symbols that the name TPLF/Woyane
    represents. For progress and better future. The name
    itself evokes betrayal, defeatism and shallowness among
    not only Ethiopians and Eritreans but also among many
    Tigrians itself/themselves. So it is hard and unrealistic to
    move forward with it.

  • Hope

    Selam EASE:
    A follow up Question(s):
    1)Land issue:
    Denkalia that I know and have been can handle more than a Million people , let alone less than a quarter of a Million people,not to mention the rich natural resources.
    So,I cannot understand the claim that the Afars are being kicked out from their Land and being replaced by Highlanders as if there is lack of land to accommodate 100-150K people!
    I am familiar with the similar claim that the Lowlanders are being replaced by Highlanders!
    I can understand things from Ahmed Raja’s Statistics point of view where most Gov Positions are run by “Highlanders”!
    I felt that things are a bit exaggerated here!
    Here are fees things that I know:
    -The Afars are being settled in Communities and doing Fisheries and Agricultural business in an organized manner
    -There are mobile Clinics,Boarding Schools,Community Hospitals
    -Afar Language is being used as a Mother Toungue in Early Childhood Education like the Tigrayit,Kunama and other ” Minorities”(I hate that term)!
    Remember that the Aseb Port is being boycotted and sabotaged ….
    Are the above facts per the ERI-TV ,what I said false and fake ?

    As far as the Tigrgna people are concerned,are you denying them their legitimate Right to settle in Denkalia and do business and earn their living?
    Please elaborate !

    • EASE

      Dear Hope,
      We all know Dankalia is a very special place.
      let me start by answering with this
      1. Did you know the Afar lost the ownership of Dankalia with Afwerki coming in?
      2. Did you know all the Sea, The land, The resources of Dankalia now belongs to Afwerki?
      3. Did you know Afar fishing boats are being confiscated, if found on sea with out a blessing of a
      navy commanders ?
      4. Did you know if Afar fishermen have to pay 3-6millions Nakfa to release their boats, (Of course,
      no one can afford to pay that, meaning their way of life and economic has just gone by the way
      side) .
      5. Did you know Afar boats after being confiscated are given to Tigrigna highlanders, with Sea
      training
      6. Did you now the Afar are forced to sell their Fish to government backed organization for almost
      free (1KG for about 4nakfa) compare to 1 litter of Benzene(Gas of boats)
      You mentioned “The Afars are being settled in Communities and doing Fisheries and Agricultural business in an organized manned” , are the Tigrignas are teaching the Afar how to fish now?
      7. Did you know Afar women die 10X more than those in Asmara giving birth (because of lack of
      access to medications)
      8. Did you know the Afar Alphabet has been changed to make it confusing for those in Djibouti
      and Ethiopia
      9. Did you know out of thousands of Eritrea scholarships given , not a single Afar given a
      scholarship to study abroad.
      10. Did you know with Assab port being out of service, 10’s of thousands Afar communities along
      side the roads and villages have their life lines cut off for 25 years while Afwerki and his
      generals receive first grade Whiskey from port of Massawa.

      Finally, What you would find on the above points, are as follows……
      – Confiscation of Land, resources and properties(i.e Dankalia, refer to the 1997 Constitution)
      -wholesale Displacement of Afar
      -Economic blockade
      -Destruction of way of life and depriving of livelihood
      – No access to Health care
      -Discriminatory policy on Education
      -changing of Afar alphabet

      Of course, Tigrigna should live in Dankaila without fear and make a living and own business, Afar state will Guarantee them these rights,.

      Now, do you get the picture when we say Eritrea is ethnic cleansing Afar from Dankalia and replacing them with others.

      150K can come in live in Dankalia, no problem, but what about 300K that have to flee their home and businesses because of the persecutions above?
      Best,
      EASE

  • አዲስ

    Dear Awate Team,

    When you have the time, can you please help clarify why my comment linking René LeFort’s article was removed? Was it in violation of Awate’s Rules or an issue with disqus?

    Thanks,
    Addis

  • Semere Andom

    Dear EASE
    Thank your response. I will hanker on two points.

    On the minority right: “The assertion many are making about the Afar number in Dankalia in respect to minority rights are somewhat deceiving and to say somehow Afar deserve less rights proportion to their size….”

    I do not believe in the less rights for less numbers, what I was going with the arithmetic game of the Afar is for this reason: it is my long time held opinion that the tiny minority ethnic groups in Eritrea are the reason we have the belligerence of the two Ts:, Tigre and Tigrinya, although they are equally abused. So the fragmented ethnic opposition to PFDJ to assert their God given right, their inalienable dignity cannot be materialized with the current configurations unless they form a block to stand to the PFDJ, they are too small for PFDJ to be threatened by them as they work in their silos. And I was hoping to get the correct numbers of the Afar in Eritrea from you. Otherwise, I know that they are the majority in Dankalia

    On the question: “What are you doing to create relationships with your won kin and kith, the Afars in Ethiopia and Djibouti to protect your language and culture and livelihood?”

    Dear EASE, here is cold, hard and raw truth in Eritrea regarding the small ethnic groups. The bigotry and ignorance that is rampant in the two Ts is mind boggling even in the opposition, so the cold, crude and hard truth is that, and it is my own personal empirical observation that these tiny ethnic groups will slowly, painfully and surely continue to be persecuted, wither away and eventually become extinct both in terms of demography and culture and language by eventually melting into the two Ts culture.

    The Afar will fare better, I think, as the Afars in Djibouti and Ethiopia will serve as safe haven for persevering their identify as they intermarry, trade with them. The Afars in both countries fare better than those in Eritrea. So my question was alluding to alliance, if any that has been created with the Afars in E and D as a backup, if Eritrea and the dominant Ts do not behave in the after math of PFDJ.

    Given the bigotry in the main stream opposition and given PFDJ’s track record, I would expect that the Sahos, Blens, Kunam and Naras to be wiped out culturally in 100 years. I was delighted when a friend told me that there is a renaissance in the Blen language in Eritrea in and the diaspora as young kids have learned it started speaking it. But the Afar can strengthen their ties with the Afar in E and D. I am proud that the Afar want stronger and equitable Eritrea but I can live with and actually will have no problem if the Afar nation is created with the 3.5 million people and with it taking Assab, either joining Ethiopia if it is still safe for them or creating their own country.

    Given the worship of waters, landmarks and ports in Eritrea, the emergence of a block between the Afars that does not rule out separation and the creation of homeland for the Afars, will awaken Eritreans from their slumber to appreciate the anguished need for the minority to stand for itself

    • EASE

      Thanks Semere
      Appreciate your honest concern for marginalized people.

  • S.Tesfa

    Dear Awtestans,
    Deadline by EriAm Sisters,
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30ANDukaEYA

  • Abi

    Hope Nefse
    You said ” In principle though I do not believe in generalization and using the word NEVER!”
    You also said this, ” .. even though I have never come across a nice Tigreyan…”

    I suggest you watch
    ” Never Say Never Again.” It is a Bond Movie.

  • አዲስ

    Hi All,

    I found this article (link below) to be a good read for those who are interested in the intricacies of Ethiopian political landscape and what the future might hold for the country. The writer is René LeFort.

    https://www.opendemocracy.net/ren-lefort/unrest-in-ethiopia-ultimate-warning-shot

    Thanks,
    Addis

    P.S I didn’t know where to link it. I hope here is fine.

    • Dear Addis,
      What an eye opening article! TPLF/EPRDF seems to be gravely ill, suffering from the three curses of corruption, bad governance and unaccountability. The government of Ethiopia is rotting from inside because of its own contradictions. Ethiopians are awakening to a new reality of fearlessness and assertiveness, and it is up to the incumbent government of Ethiopia to live to people’s expectations and reform itself as soon as possible before it is too late. Superficial face-lifting will not satisfy Ethiopians any more. It is time for a real change: i.e. good governance, true federalism and decentralization, fighting kleptocracy, oligocracy, nepotism and corruption, working for transparency, no more trojan parties that do not represent the different social groups etc.. Whoever wants to stand against the wishes of the people, will be overrun by the people. Time is running against those who believed that they are above the law, and they should change themselves to bring a sustainable social and economic changes to the country.

      As much as encirclement of Ethiopia by its Arab enemies, islamization of its Christians and the control of the resources of Africa by these Arab nations is concerned, I think that it is not a farfetched scenario. DIA is bringing these Arab powers to the horn, a step nearer to their target, and unless he gets out of his delusion, unpredictable things could happen in the horn.

      • Kim Hanna

        Selam Horizon,
        .
        The article I read appears to be a good accounting of what is going on and I hope those in the position of power read it as well.
        .
        I don’t see PMHD as a dictator. Therefore, I hope he will be able to garner consensus and get on the right track of good governance and continue the development. I hope everyone sees the necessity of PMHD as the usher of a stable Ethiopia. This potential power card may give him the initiative to press to move in the right direction.
        I will be very concerned, however, if he suddenly vacates his position.
        .
        Mr. K.H

        • Dear Kim Hanna,

          The good thing is that the government and the ruling parties (some at least) seem to be aware of their shortcomings. I hope that the next step will be solving these problems. Ethiopia has come a long way, and some selfish individuals should not be allowed to block the way to the future, or force Ethiopia to backtrack to her unfortunate past. I have respect for PMHD and I hope that he will try to move the country in the direction of true democracy and economic prosperity for all..

        • Nitricc

          ““I don’t see PMHD as a dictator”

          Hi Kim what is concerning me is that you are becoming toothless with every passing day.
          PMHD as a dictator? Are you losing your mind? To be a dictator, you have to have a titanium balls and go for the jugular. PMHD won’t have his lunch with out the okay of TPLF gangs let alone to compromise with real people’s issue. I was very happy to hear what PIA has to say in his last interview. He told us that he the man and anything and everything goes through him. I was happy to hear that because when things go wrong, no ambiguity, it is the doing of PIA and can hold responsible. If anything go wrong in your country; who is going to be responsible? I get it, PMDH! Wake up man, your country is in a deep shhhhhh.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Nitricc,
            .
            Nitricc, you are becoming earless by the day. Is it the Texas or Oklahoma intelligence service that is providing you with all this hot information? If you tell me you put 1 and 1 together, I will then have to call you ……less. Yes we have problems.
            .
            In regard to your approval and happiness about PIA saying anything and everything goes through him, I am speechless. You are giving him qualities that is not human. I will step aside and let Amanuel Hidrat talk to you about this kind of behavior. He will be suspicious that you are part of that big secret conspiracy to deliver Eritrea to Ethiopia again.
            .
            Mr. K.H

      • አዲስ

        Hi Horizon,

        It’s definitely time for a real and meaningful change.

        I am just curious as to why Awate Team deleted my original comment that included the article.

        Thanks,
        Addis

    • Hayat Adem

      That was helpful. thanks.

  • Asoyta

    Dear Awates,
    Our Afar region is aspiring to be a model state like the SNNPR of Ethiopia
    in Eritrean future Federal union of states. Our Afar homeland is home
    to many ethnic nationalities and peoples of almost equal demography
    of each group. Among them the Tigrigna, Tigre, Saho, Issa, Asahimara
    Akilo, Saroyta , Assa and other groups inhibit the Afar land . So it is wrong to
    imagine as if it is the home of only the Afars at the time many ethnic
    nationalities are getting recognized and allowed to administer their respective
    zones under the constitution. The Sidamas of SNNPR do not dominate the
    other groups like Gurage, Wolayta, Gemu and Gofa nationalities today in
    SNNPR Ethiopia. In Afar should be the same also. So though we are gratefull
    and appreciative of your help and good wishes to our regional state of Afar,
    we also would like you to understand the sensitivities of other non Afar groups
    and the realities and make up of our Land and its inhabitants in context and
    right perspective.

  • Music Novice

    Greetings Abyssinia,

    Interesting! You are almost there.

    • Abyssinia

      Hi MN,
      You know “Tinqola” is not an easy job 🙂 What did I miss in order for me to be completely “there”?

      • Music Novice

        Greetings Abyssinia,

        You need to find the full picture by reasoned analysis. I usually sleep on Maths or other type of problems, when I wake up I find a solution.

  • tes

    Dear AT,

    I am reading on FB [which traces back to Adoulis as a source of the news] that say two ELF leaders are arrested by Sudanese government.

    I hope Gedab News to come with more detailed information on their arrest. If it is true, an open war with Al-Beshir of Sudan should be launched: both diplomatically and politically.

    It is enough with Sudanese harassment

    tes

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam tes,

      Assenna website has reported that Hussien Kelifa the chairman of ELF and one of his colleagues are imprisoned by the government of Sudan. Gedab news must follow the story to verify it.

      Regards

      • tes

        Dear Amanuel Hidrat,

        Thank you for the additional confirùing information. Since yesterday I didn’t visit assenna. I missed to read it.

        Hopefully AT to come with more detailed and a kick to call the Sudanese government for releasing them unconditionally. If not, justice seeking Eritreans should go out and demonstrate for the immediate release.

        Let the world know on what happens to dissent Eritreans who live outside the helm their own country.

        tes

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Tes, they did.

    • Nitricc

      Hi Tes, you are good at empty words. you said “If it is true, an open war with Al-Beshir of Sudan should be launched:” what are you going to do? throw your empty wine bottle all the way from France to Sudan? please, just sit tight and do what you do, that gets you to the point of bipolar. you get my drift right? if not, there is no the so-called ELF organization. the real ELF was dead and buried 1981. if there is such ELF organization, then it only exists in Semere-A and Tes delusional mind.

      • Music Novice

        Greetings Nitricc,

        Wait until you see him throwing cabbages and onions at Al Beshir; supplied by his friends, who could only manage to run from the bedroom to the kitchen fridge.

        His Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD), so to speak.

    • Abi

      Prof Tes
      Time to use your Newtonian theories and thermodynamics. Somethings just come handy.
      “It is enough with the Sudanese harassment ” (Tes )

  • Nitricc

    Hi Aby, I am not impressed about your sky scrapers. What I am surprised with is; Per nitricc’s policy; I follow anything and everything about Ethiopia; I used to watch Ethiopian movies and I was tortured to death to no end. The Idea was to be informed the best I can by mixing with what everything goes in Ethiopia. The qualities of the Ethiopian movies were horrible and simply dreadful, so, I stopped watching. Even if you compare Ethio-Tv with ER-Tv; Eri-tv qualites are amazing comparing to EThio Tv. And I thought that The Eritreans were way better in picture, sound and action quality and the overall.
    Recently I started watching few Ethiopian movies and I am pleasantly surprised how quick they emerge to be a decent movie makers and good actor. Clearly; Ethiopian movie making community is on the move. In today’s Ethiopian movie; there is a major and significant improvement on the movie’s content, pictures, sounds and actor’s quality.
    Accordingly, from what I have watched so far; I nominate the following three Ethiopian movies to be the best on their own respective quality. For a change, the Ethiopians did something right lol; congratulations!

    Best Narration ==è Etege-2
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfnCv1TdR38

    This is the best over all movies. Don’t get fooled with at times goofy at times obnoxious characters. It sends rich and powerful messages. I guaranteed you; you will learn something. I learn something! A Must watch!

    • Nitricc

      sorry Abi, cut-off
      Best Pictures !!Yewededu Semon

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9M7WB30HYMY

      it is a typical movie, nothing special but the pictures and quality of camera action are the best out of Ethiopian movie.

      Best Actor = Hiryet

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MaZcR2_zZg

      I don’t think there is any special about this movie but you can argue that it sends strong and deep scarifies about friends and friendships. However; the actor who acts as mentally challenged and insane person; he gets the best acting award. He nailed it. Normally African actors are lousy.
      .

      • Abi

        Hey General
        You want me watch all these? Ok, give me some time. Right now, I’m watching a drunk professor throwing garlic and ginger on Al Beshir.

  • T..T.

    Hi all,

    So now we all smell a change within three months in the air.

    From the ongoing discussions all agree that political change in Eritrea is overdue. It is believed that every Eritrean is highly desirous of establishing all inclusive government. Although the Arab spring of civil resistance as a uniting means against the tyrant is preferred, yet most of Eritreans disapprove of the Middle East type change by using destructive force to oust the tyrant.

    People like Nitricc always are against the opposition. Such people, like Nitricc, call the opposition dysfunctional for lack of its effectiveness. They are ready to jump and ride with the opposition if it becomes effective and reliable.

    Therefore, it can be said that 80% are for yes of immediate change in Eritrea, while 20% have no objection if the change is effective and reliable. In line with an effective and reliable change, let the opposition declare a government in exile led by Kunamas and Danakilas. The government in exile will then organize the country federally around the old administrative regions. The opposition will assign representatives of the regions as executive body. The executive body, in turn, will assign provisional leaders of the administrative regions.

    So, what do we have on hold now?

    The leaders of administrative regions will prepare for change by taking the task of organizers upon themselves. They will have to first assign leaders of their sub-provincial/regions and open two way communications to reach the people to be organized around elderly leaders for internal reconciliations within their region and across the country.

    The executive body will take the role of a provisional government to de-isolate Eritrea internationally within the AU and UN.

    Finally, all in all, within a period of three months the government in exile will send to Isayas calling on him to negotiate his outstation from power peacefully.

  • Kim Hanna

    Selam Dis Donc,
    .
    Ha Ha it was not timidity, it was deference up to a limit and respect. I see him as an old fashioned good guy. I disagree with him on many points. I didn’t want to come across as insulting or disrespectful as I made my points. That is all.
    .
    You should have seen me at a bar brawl with “tes”, it wasn’t pretty.
    .
    I will let tes listen to the French song, other than their national anthem, I don’t like the sound they make, sorry.
    .
    Mr. K.H

  • EASE

    Dear Eritrean compatriots and friends’ of peace, prosperity
    and coexistence

    Let me start by extending the overtures of peace, brotherhood and relationship to all of you, Eritrean brothers and sisters

    I Like to congratulate GEAN and the efforts by individuals such as Br. Beyan Negash , Amanuel Hidart, Saleh Gadi(Awate platform) and other notable Eritreans for reaching out to Afar and other marginalized and disenfranchised Eritreans. We have lots of work to do, but this it is a good start.

    We believe the Afar and Dankalia are in a unique position not only because of our geostrategic and resources advantages over other regions in Eritrea, but in unique position to heal the wounds of the nation. As we have seen from indigenous nations in Canada, South Africa, Australia and other places, the Truth and Reconciliation process and admission of guilt is a very powerful tool for salvation of a nation like Eritrea and for victims and perpetrators justly resolve their crises. The Afwerki policies and ideologies that resulted in current ethnic cleansing of Afar people from Eritrea must be confronted collectively and denounced.

    Racist policies that look down on Afar as less Eritreans and “the enemy within” or as a mere commodity rather than proud Eritreans who have undoubtedly sacrificed their blood and fair share for Eritrea’s independence must be
    confronted by all of us, especially by those of us in Diaspora. These ideologies are very dangerous and will
    hinder our ability to come together as united people.

    This is the starting point to all of our salvation. We believe Eritreans, especially Tigrignas lack understands of the Afar people and what their aspirations are. The Afar nation didn’t popup in Dankalia after 1991. Historically, Afar self rule and self governance can be traced back to biblical times in this part of world. Afar kingdoms, chiefdom, sultanates have
    ruled over Dankalia autonomously and its territories thousands of years.

    The Afar self-Rule is not a charity that we expect as a gift from any one. How to arrange the self-rule, the rights of land, equitable share of resources and other obstacle can be achieved if we respectfully come together
    on the table and discuss these issues honestly and openly.

    Now a day’s you see the Tigrigna –Tigray nations going at each other’s throats when it comes to Sea access and Assab port in particular. No mention of AFAR anywhere. This is why you see our people use the terms like “Secession”.
    You need to connect with people’s grievances.
    If any people should realize the affects of marginalization, it should be the two Tigrigna’s (Eritrean Tigrignas and Tigray Nation of Ethiopia) who have themselves experienced racism and marginalization and even at one point prevented from
    using their language proudly. It’s ironic how indigenous languages like Afar, Kunama, and others are prevented from developing their indigenous culture and their way of life in Eritrea today.

    We must encourage and promote diversity; we must defend each others rights, especially when the time favors you. The Tigrignas are in a privileged position today. It’s within your means to reach out to Afar, the Kunama, Nara, Bilen, Saho, Jebrti and other disenfranchised groups. GEAN has created a platform for all of us to come
    together, Medrek, EPDP, ELL and other should do the same.

    As EASE mentioned in its presentation to GEAN conference in California,Afar are committed to Eritrea’s unity and sovereignty, Eritreans must do their part, especially those of you who are benefiting from democracy, diversity and well
    to do economically. The solution lies within your hands, we must seize the opportunity. Don’t wait until the regime is gone. These issues will confront us even with the departure of PFDJ regime in Asmara.

    EASE and the Afar are your partner to democratic reform, constitutional reform, the rights of all nationalities of Eritrea, stability and economic development for all of us Eritreans.

    Congratulation to Brother Amanuel Hidrat for your stands,
    Many Thanks,
    EASE
    Giclo Bisoh!!!

    • A.Osman

      Dear Giclo,

      If my memory serves me right, Prof Magnet sent a proposal to the GoE on your behalf in an attempt to resolve the Afar marginalization. I guess it is some kind of federal solution, would you kindly please provide a link to such a document as it will give your organizations perspective on “regional autonomy” and “regional state” that Amanuel has indicated as an unresolved issue.

      Regards
      AOsman

    • tes

      Dear EASE,

      I fully endorse the Afar grievances. The Afar people should keep their patriotism and defend their rights by what ever possible means. And on this occasion I would like to extend my unreserved support for your struggle to bring the Afar people’s dignity to the stage where it should be. PFDJ has created a discriminatory approach that confiscates indigenous people’s land. By the so called “Land Proclamation” Afars became the first victims. And by the so called “state properties” Afar people became disadvantaged.

      tes

      • EASE

        Dear Tes,
        Thank you for your kind words,comradery and support for our vision. Please keep in touch. Together we can
        make happen.
        EASE

    • Semere Andom

      Dear EASE:

      Eritrea’s diversity foresters dictatorship, it is diverse with tiny ethnic groups like the Afar and Blen and Kunma and Nara and Saho. Then we have the Tigrinya and Tigre, whose arithmetic lottery affords them the power. I am of the belief that and it can be demonstrated that PFDJ and EPLF are the alliance of Tigrinya and the Semhar Tigre

      First you need to start with telling us what percentage of the total population does the Afar constitute, the PFDJ says they are less than 1%, putting the Afar at less than 100K.

      The historical narrative of the self-rule of the Afar people is very interesting but that rich history will not protect them from PFDJ, will not feed them while they are going broke and hungry when they are supposed to be prospering and striving.

      PFDJ is not discriminatory, what I mean is it does not favour the Tigrinya people it just uses them by deceiving them that the organization is theirs and playing with their delusion, even if their fate and suffering and future is as bleak as the rest. The Tigrinya and Tigre will for the most part side with the PFDJ until a cure is found for their delusion and they are in no privileged position to neither help Afar nor themselves, they are endangered species themselves just like the Afar and even if they are not and even if that myth of privilege is true, they will not help the tiny, ethnic groups like the Kunama and Nara out of their the goodness of their heart.

      What are you doing to create relationships with your won kin and kith, the Afars in Ethiopia and Djoubti to protect your language and culture and livelihood?

      25 years after PFJD was created, you failed to create a block, a front composed of Nara, Kunma, Blen and Saho and Afar to stand up against PFDJ because the ethnically fragmented opposition to PFDJ will never see the day of the light, let us be brutal about it, it will be like the old “hashewye”, a game that PFDJ loves but bans at the same time.

    • Mohammed Ahmed

      Hi EASE (representative)

      You said, and I quote “The Afar self-Rule is not a charity that we expect as a gift from any one.” end of quote.

      This bold assertion should actually serve as the motto for all those disenfranchised groups who are struggling to assert their inherent and god given rights.

      It is not benevolence that is sought here – it is rather the need to talk and to compromise. Here are my demands – show me your needs (read fears) type of discourse in the spirit of give and take. Anything short of that is a call for disaster.

      Only fools will take comfort in the farcical and feigned invincibility of the subjugators whose stupid adventure is nothing but a disaster waiting to happen.

      Eritrea can be for all or it can be for none – but never for just a few.

      Regards

      • EASE

        Agreed!

    • V.F.

      Selam Giclo. It’s very good of you to come here, in the lions den, and promote your ideas and the grievances of the Afar people. I did a little math the other day and if Tigre and Tigrigna make up 85% of Eritreas population, the other 7 ethnicities make up around 100k each if we assume they have an equal number for simplicity.

      So yes, I agree with you that these populations and their customs should be protected to the fullest lest they become extinct. I am also glad that you made no mention of religion as that is a dangerous game and can be playing with fire. I have no first hand knowledge of how the regime in Asmara marginalized the Afar people specifically but I can sympathize with your grievance and other ethnicities as well.

      I should mention however that the highlanders are equally marginalized. This government is nobody’s except Isaias Afwerki and a few thousand lackeys. I disagree with this statement from you;

      “The Tigrignas are in a privileged position today…”

      As in the proposals with GEAN, these grievances of marginalization should be addressed right away as a new constitution is drafted post PFDJ. As Amanuel Hidrat said, a bicameral parliament and autonomous provinces with democratic parties within bigger umbrella parties representing each ethnic group would go a long way in alleviating these problems and putting a stop to the huge marginalization of every segment of Eritrean society.

      We the highlanders do not own this government, at least not the majority of us.

      At the heart of yours and others grievances in my opinion is land rights. If, the indigenous people desire to have the Tigrigna settlers get out packing their belongings, I would be respectful of that desire but it would have very negative consequences.

      Moving forward, the best scenario would be to allow the people of every region, wereda, and adi in Eritrea to deal with their land per their customs. If anyone wants to move from region to region, that should be encouraged but simply have that person fulfill the obligations of being a citizen of a specific region, similar to the US. Every region should have land for sale for people from other regions and land that is off limits.

    • Abyssinia

      Hi EASE,
      I tried to reply to you here, bu the admins removed my reply. If you give me your private email, I can communicate with you. I have important things to share with you.

      • Music Novice

        Greetings Abyssinia,

        Nobody evicted or cleansed them. It is only their magnified perception of their elite.

        • Music Novice

          Greetings Abyssinia,

          It seems you have been moving too fast forward by touting the Eritrean Afars to join Ethiopia .

          You first priority should have been putting your own house in order. Remember, in the game of Chess there is a rule called ‘en passant’.

          • Hayat Adem

            Dearest MN,
            I haven’t read what Abyssinia said but how is the en passant rule applicable to the concept of “keeping one’s house in order?”*
            Hayat
            ———
            *This is not because nor in spite of our last rough exchanges, but regardless. As you may know, that rule in a chess is about capturing a pawn from a side which otherwise would be moving two steps off forward (of course, how else?) from home square. Or are you trying to say, come to me clean or I will get you from a side? Even then, en passant is a fair rule (officially allowed), like any other game rules, that reward or penalize choice risks.

          • Music Novice

            Greetings Hayat,

            I leave it to you to figure it out.

          • Hayat Adem

            Hi,
            Now what, you don’t want to talk to me? You can’t do that because I like you.
            Hayat

          • Nitricc

            Hey MN; simply priceless! lol

    • Hope

      Selam EASE:
      Congrats and all the best to /with your struggle!
      Few questions that I asked Ustaz Amanuel Hidrat and I also invited you to help with answers:

      1)The working relationship of EASE with the RSADO!
      I heard that the later is the Military wing of EASE!
      Is that true?

      2)Your relationship with the TPLF Gov and its mouth piece,the AIGAFORUM

      3)Your Sponsor and that of Prof Magnet and the role of the Canadian Gov within and for ESE and RSADO
      4)The scope of the EASE as an Afar State and its power and relationship with the other Eritrean Administrative Regions!
      Are you intending to have an Exclusive State for Afars by excluding all ERITREANS from Denkalia?
      If not,how can you exclusively create an Afar State while other ERITREANS are living in Denkalia?

    • Nitricc

      Hi EASE; you said, “We must encourage and promote diversity” Not only i agree with you but we have no choice! None! There was a good reason we bled for decades we have learned our lessons. Don’t you ever worry about that.

      “we must defend each others rights, especially when the time favors you” again; if Eritrea to be worthy of the blood that was shed; then there is no other choice but to defend our rights and to stand for those may not unable to stand for themselves.I agree no argument there.
      “The Tigrignas are in a privileged position today”
      here is were i disagree to the brim with you. Your comment is so unfair to the point of insulting and offensive. let me ask you this a few years back 300+ Eritrean were drowned in the high sea,all perished, how many of them were Tigigna speakers comparing to the Eritrean Muslims and other lowlanders? check the names of the dead and you tell me how many of them were Tigrigna speakers comparing to the rest of Eritreans? your allegation and accusation displays dishonesty! if the Tigrigna speakers were the beneficiary of the current system, they wouldn’t try to escape to their death. question is how can you ask for the Tigrigna speakers to feel your pain while you are ignoring their pain?

      • Guest

        “let me ask you this a few years back 300+ Eritrean were drowned in the high sea,all perished, how many of them were Tigigna speakers comparing to the Eritrean Muslims and other lowlanders? check the names of the dead and you tell me how many of them were Tigrigna speakers comparing to the rest of Eritreans? ” The above idea is yohannis G/hiwot’s deduction. Nitricc’s comment was absolute indifference to the plight of the 300+ Eritreans.

        • Nitricc

          Hi Guest; who is yohannis G/hiwot and what do I have to do with the freaking guy. I told you how I see it and you have two alternatives; take it or leave it. Why are you linking me with a person I have no idea with? Listen, let me tell you something. If any particular ethnic group feels oppressed under PIA’s rule; then wait and see and better pray when he is gone what comes after him.

  • አዲስ

    Hi Bayan, Ayneta, Horizon, Berhe,

    Few questions if anyone can help clarify:

    1. What exactly is Medrek hoping to gain from this meeting?

    2. I believe the Eritrean opposition case is handled by a different body other than the PM’s office. Why the sudden escalation(if it’s escalation considering HMD 🙂 ) to the PM office?

    3. Do you think this change from Ethiopia is influenced by the recent development in the region(Yemen crisis)?

    Thanks,
    Addis

    • Berhe Y

      Dear Addis,

      I have no idea to all the question you raised. But here is my guess.

      1) I think meeting / discussion is always a positive thing. So it could just an introductory, explore ideas and frame work positions and Ethiopia’s support within long term interests.

      2) Awate and SGJ were asking the Eritrean portfolio should be handled differently because the current arrangement is not making a difference. So who knows, may be Ethiopia heed the call, also a good thing.

      3) It’s possible, but I doubt the Medrik (being most of them ex-EPLF) will embark soon enough to see the danger our countries are being exposed and that they are willing to see an “partner in Ethiopia”.

      Berhe

      • አዲስ

        Dear Berhe,

        Thanks for the reply.

        Indeed dialogue is always positive. I hope others can shed light on the remaining points.

        Thanks,
        Addis

  • Dear Bayan Nagash,
    If Ethiopians and Eritreans continue on this destructive journey of fratricide, their fate will be to fall into the hands of those religion and petro-dollar intoxicated medieval forces of the Middle East and the Arabian Peninsula. They already have a name for our region, the “Habesha land caliphate”. When that difficult time comes, Ethiopians and Eritreans will be forced to stand together on the same side of the front. Unfortunately, they will be weak.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2674736/ISIS-militants-declare-formation-caliphate-Syria-Iraq-demand-Muslims-world-swear-allegiance.html

  • Abyssinia

    Hi Bayan,
    I am hopeful – sanity seems to be gaining ground in Eritreans. In the statue quo, the mutual attrition, we are both losers. Our enmity is foolishness of the first order, given our surrounding and the world at large. It enrages me to see how we as people fail to see the bigger picture, that our division and hostility is a success for our enemies next door, that we are progressively weakening our standing. How is it that we never had people who can see beyond the end of their noses? I am ashamed of the generation that has created the current Ethio-Eritrean reality. Myopic generation!

  • Music Novice

    Greetings Guest2,

    I agree. He doesn’t seem to know where he started his journey from and where is going.

  • Dear Ayneta,
    PFDJ has brought Eritrea and the Eritrean people to such a point that they find themselves between a rock and a hard place. An Eritrean organization is damned if it approaches Ethiopia, because Ethiopia is the red rug that infuriates the majority of Eritreans, and it is equally damned if it does not, because the solution lies in Addis and with the Ethiopian people. The other solutions, such as Sudan and Arab nations, which are in proximity with Eritrea, can never be permanent and dependable.

    • Berhe Y

      Dear Horizon,

      I do agree to most of what you say with regards to Eritrea/ Ethiopian relationship today and in the future. However, I do not necessary agree that Ethiopia is “red rug” to majority of Eritreans. I can say, there is universal agreement in Eritreans, that the boarder must be demarcated and Ethiopia needs to accept the boarder ruling. I don’t know how many Eritreans know this fact, but to be honest, beside the flash point Badime being awarded to Eritrea, Eritrea has lost most of the claims it made, compared to Ethiopia. The reason a lot of Eritreans support that, it’s NOT because we won or that it will hurt Ethiopia but, because we do NOT trust to go to another negotiation with current Ethiopian government / future Ethiopian government with regards to our boarders. We do NOT want to open a can of warms that we do know where it will lead us, another war, endless bickering back and forth.

      However, are we open to normalizing our relation ship to the point where the boarder means irrelevant, I can say without a doubt that’s the stand of the majority of Eritrean people.

      The next point that I would like to make is, Eritreans are not blind sided with the PFDJ propaganda with regards to Ethiopia. This may seem as surprise but to be honest, every Eritreans knows PFDJ empty promises based on their records on the ground. The question one asks then, how come they stand to the injustice then? It’s simple,

      fear of the unknowns,
      fear of losing everything in the process of hoping to get something,
      fatigue,
      lack of trust to Eritrean political establishment (based on their records)

      If for example, Ethiopia agrees for the boarder demarcated, not the current stance, “we accept it but let’s negotiate”, so PFDJ have no excuse left (which will come up with more excuse) then I think that can change the attitude of the Eritrean people.

      In other words, from most of Eritreans point of view, Ethiopia policy towards Eritrea is seen as that it wants a weak and disintegrated Eritrea always at the mercy of Ethiopia.

      As far as hate to Ethiopia, none what so ever.

      Berhe

      • Dear Berhe,
        To tell you the truth, I really hate to discuss Badme and border demarcation, not because it is to the interest of Ethiopia, but because the genie of Badme is destroying the nation of Eritrea and it has become the abyss that separates both people. The regime in Asmara uses it to stay in power, and the government of Ethiopia is also using it. Good wishing Eritreans are supporting the return of Badme and demarcation, because they think that it is their patriotic obligation to do so, and a sine qua non for any Ethio-Eritrean rapprochement, thus without their wish falling into the hands of the dictator. In addition, the following are how I see things, which of course, many Eritreans will abhor:

        1) The regime in Asmara starts a war of aggression, and occupies a piece of land which it says belongs to it, ignoring any dialogue with Ethiopia in advance on the fate of that piece of land. Ethiopia sacrifices tens of thousands of her young to take back the flashpoint of Badme.

        2) The Ethiopian government foolishly accepts arbitration, and some old men in the Hague, who have seen and read of cities changing hands both ways, especially in the Franco-German wars, depending on who won the war, give over the disputed piece of land to the one who lost the war. Are they to blame? May be not. The fault lies with the Ethiopian government for accepting arbitration on the flashpoint of Badme in the first place, as long as it faced a war of aggression by the regime in Asmara. They could have accepted demarcation on all the remaining borders. The Ethiopian government could sell its victory on the battle field, but not its defeat at the negotiation table.

        3) The PFDJ is exploiting this backtracking of Ethiopia and we are where we are today. Ethiopia will not budge, nor would Eritrea.

        4) Can the opposition take a step beyond Badme and demarcation and build mutual friendship first, and leave the issue for a later day, or, is solving the problem of Badme and demarcation, the only bridge that can join both people? This is a question that should be answered, after so many years of a standstill.

        • Berhe Y

          Dear Horizon,

          You are right it’s really trying to discuss Badime.

          As to the points you outlined.
          1) I agree with you. The claims commission also states that.

          2) I also agree with you, though one wonders why those old-men decided to rule that way, knowing well that Eritrea had lost the war and that it started this whole thing in the first place.

          Me personally, I can accept all type of dialog including the 5 points plan, the we accepted plan, etc..even if it means that, Eritrean hand over Badime to Ethiopia and get something else in return. There is a clause in the agreement that states “as long as both parties agree to change the ruling, they can do so”. My rational is very simple…

          Eritrea lost lots of lands it claimed. One can make a reasonable exchange that make sense to the people who live in the area. Badime should not be that important to Eritrea. For the record, Ethiopia now / and TPLF before had been administrating for the past 30 or more years (since the 80s) so, one can say it has less relevance to Eritrean people. It means a lot to PFDJ and their ego but to the actual people well being.

          3) Absolutely and Eritrea is losing lots of opportunity in the process. May be it hurts Ethiopia less, but Eritrea is consumed by this conflict.

          4) Why not. sometimes facts in the ground dictates that. I say, if Ethiopia does not want to demarcate the boarder, there will not be any force on earth which makes her to. The only way this can happen is, using force, which means, full scale war needs to happen for the SC to pay attention. Eritrean government lost the opportunity to pressure Ethiopia using the International community before the peace keeping left the area. So the least painful option is, Eritrea should cut its loses, negotiate with Ethiopia and move on. For Eritrean future security this is probably the best thing that can happen.

          Berhe

          • Hope

            Selam Berhe:
            I respect your opinion but please:
            – have some basics about the chronology of the incidents that led to the ” Border War”!
            Refer to SAAY’ s Concise but to the point summary!

            -Lack of Dialogue has never been the issue but serious lack of trust and confidence between the two regimes!

            -The evil motive of the TPLF,which has been expressed covertly and overtly(Referti the Soeeches and Policy Guidelines executed both covertly and overtly)!
            If you are really a serious ERITREAN,prioritize the interest of Eritrea bh leaving aside the PFDJ Saga and Politika !

            Case in point,Abyssinia and Eyob Medhanie are the classic Reps of the TPLF Agenda!

            More over,consider the case of EASE and its Military Wing,the RSADO,not to mention the agenda of Kerneliewos led DMELK!

          • Berhe Y

            Selam Hope,

            There is no point in arguing and counter arguing the events that led to the war. Isayas escalated the conflict by sending the army ( who gave Wuchu) the order to take tanks and invade badime. Not the Eritrean cabinet, Eritrean war council, Eritrwan bayto or anyone else. Do you think Wuchu just roll over the tanks and invade badime while the coward president made unscheduled visit to Saudi Arabia.

            I don’t recall reading Saay, please send me the link, you may have confused with Mahmud.
            Even that’s beside the points, the commission found Eritrea responsible and the Eritrwan government accepted it.

            I am not saying the Ethiopian government was innocent in the whole thing , but they won the war now they gave the luxery to dictate the terms. And Isayas failed diplomatically to force them to demarcate the border.

            This stalemate can go on for a long time, unless theEthioouan government is overthrown and Ethiopia disintegrate. That’s what Isayas and those who support the regime are banking on. Let’s call that plan A.

            I don’t think that is realistic and it will ever be.

            So u ask you kubur Hope, how do you expect to break the stalemate and move on.
            What’s Eritrea plan B?

            Berhe

  • A.Osman

    Dear Abyssinia,

    I am impressed with the look of Mekele, I passed by the city in 1993 while travelling from Addis to Asmara, but did not venture out on my overnight stay. (well it was a rough and tiring trip).

    I have not see a similar birds eye view of Asmara, unfortunately it is a city frozen in time*, nothing has changed. You will have to wait if you need a panoramic view of our beautiful city (ደቃ ሚስ ክዋሓሉዋ ኪንሲላ ኢና). Once freedom and peace prevail in the country, future developments and expansions are likely to focus on seaside cities like Massawa and Assab, while Asmara will remain a petite city that many from those cities will visit to stay during the hot seasons.

    A question to you – as a booming city, compared to Addis is property price any cheaper?

    Regards
    AOsman

    * Listen the first 10 mins relevant to Asmara to see why we are where we are….it is a 3 part interview that should be compared with the latest interview (22 years later) to see what changed. Mahmoud need to reconsider his good marking for the last one.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD4p5aRhRac

    • Abyssinia

      Hi Osman,
      Property price in Meqelle is cheaper than Addis, but I think not very much. I think Meqelle is an expensive city too, but I do not know much about property prices. My sister mentioned to me recently that she was considering to bid 850 birr/square meter for a residential plot. Maybe that can give you a clue.

      On the interview, I am surprised to see Issayas talking some sense here. Really, he was on the topic, unlike his endless recent meanderings and ramblings. I am wondering how this interview can explain where ‘you’ are -whatever you mean by that -though. I mean I hear him say that they are preparing a plan before they can allow construction of new houses. Is it that they never allowed? The man who asked the question is funny and sheepish. Is that whom you called Mahmoud?

      • A.Osman

        Dear Abyssinia,

        Not sure but 850 birr/square looks reasonable price, for 500 m2 you are talking about 20k usd @ 21birr/usd. Such a price in Asmara would be a dream. I guess Ethiopia is an attractive place for Eritreans to invest, especially for those who were born and bred there.

        On the interview – I meant awatista Mahmud Salih who gave DIA a tumbs up compared to his recent interviews. DIA looked at his sharpest moment, he was getting much applaud (call it popular support at its peak), those who were brave enough to question the government’s approach were intimidated (the sheepish man had to be careful observing the reaction of the audience to others before him, while DIA looked more accommodating). In any case at that point saying “we are studying an issue” was a good way to dodge a question, 22 years later we have not moved much as nation, actually we are worse off. All the talk about town planning, come and build etc…was a lie…Asmara has not changed a bit and it will remain so for until the government is change, all the promise to prioritise housing in future is just a promise like many others before. I wonder how those who give are giving him the “benefit of doubt” carry on accepting his failure for such a long time and still are willing to march on that mode.

        Regards
        AOsman

        P.S. Abi, I notice Ethiopia has on arrival visa for many countries from the west ( exception if you are from Eritrean, Somalian or Pakistani origin). You need to explain this discriminatory law – I know we don’t have blue eyes :)…..abesha negn mebal aybeqam endie? – If you trying to filter dawit out, he has a yellow card – wassap man!!!

        • Abyssinia

          Hi Osman,
          It seems cheap, specially if you compare it with property prices in the West. I just did some googling and found 1500 birr/square meter too. So I think it depends on where the residential plot is. Some neighborhoods such as Adi-Hawsi and Hawelti are expensive and some others such as Lachi are cheap. Meqelle used to be very cheap. It is only recently that it has grown very fast and population has swelled to like 350000 due to migration and student population. Last year I went to Meqelle, I chatted with some of the property brokers to find out an estimate of the prices of properties. According to my brief assessment, houses (175 square metered, one salon, one bedroom, one kitchen, and one bathroom) cost 1.5 million birr. This was so much more than the prices six years ago, when such houses were sold for 90k birr. To be honest, I do not know much about property prices in Addis, do you? Can Eritreans own properties in Ethiopia? I am a novice when it comes to matters like this.

          I understand what you mean about where you are. But, I think the Eritrean government seems to think that Asmera is too precious to allow new constructions to spoil it. You know, it means a lot for the Eritrean identity. How are property prices in other towns, as compared to Asmera’s?

          • A.Osman

            Dear Abyssinia,

            Ah … that little jab, on Eritrean identity :). No, it is about control, wanting to do all constructions works by themselves, not caring to preserve the architecture.

            Seriously if you have money enough to buy you in Asmara, I guarantee you it will be enough to buy you a nice place somewhere in US. It is that expensive and pointless to buy due to the shortage and restriction imposed.

            Abi, you have come with a record (300,000 birr/ square meter) and that in Marcato, it must be one of the little 2msq shops :), otherwise who would want to live in that crowded place.

            On history, don’t forget you have borrowed 2900 years of it – I should take crush course for the 100 remaining.

            Regards
            AOsman

          • Abyssinia

            Hi Osman,
            You perceived it as a jab? 🙂 I really think Asmera is at the center of the Eritrean identity. But feel free to disagree. But, if a little jab could nudge Eritreans to sanity, I am happy to do so.

          • A.Osman

            Dear Abyssinia,

            Feel free to chip on what you think ails our region, so long it is kept on a dosage that keeps the communication respectful. We (Eritreans) have plenty of confidence on our identity as a nation – it comes in many stripes and colors and we love the rainbow that it forms.

            Regards
            AOsman

        • Abi

          Hi AOsman
          dawit is as old as Addis. His mother is the chairwoman of her Edir. He is well connected. You can’t filter him out. He is the filter . We need the ” original ” Ethiopians like Goitay dawit to filter those confused Eritreans like Hope from sneaking into Ethiopia.
          “Eshohin beEshoh”
          You asked wassap? Everything is way up in Ethiopia. Reaching for the skies! Park Hyatt is building a 99 story hotel. Half way between earth and the moon. A lot of job opportunities (dabo )to be created way up in the sky.
          Don’t ask the price of land in Addis. It’s like one of the most expensive in the world. I heard a plot of land around Markato was sold for a staggering 300,000 birr/ square meter.
          When are you going to be an Ethiopian . I know it is difficult to study 3000 years of history.
          ” yitadelutal enji ayitagelutim”
          Berta wedaje.

          • Hayat Adem

            Hi Abi,
            That building rhythms with my name here. Does the massive urban construction sucking up the largest part of the capital worry you a bit? It should. That level of scale and pace is scary. Besides, construction jobs are not sustainable, Construction outcomes (buildings) are rent-economy products. Manufacturing and service economies have multiplier impacts, jobs from them are of better quality and more sustainable.
            hayat

        • Nitricc

          “22 years later we have not moved much as nation, actually we are worse off. All the talk about town planning, come and build etc…was a lie…Asmara has not changed a bit and it will remain so for until the government is change,..”
          Hey OsAman; reading your exchange with your Tigryan friend; I can not help but to witness the typical African conversation. Reading you guys exchange gives me the real inside account of an African mentality. The growth and the development of the area is determined by the land and by the buildings that are stood on the land. The prosperities of the people are determined by the price of the land? Really!!!! How about access to education an education and its quality of it? How about access to the health-care? How about Access to clean water? Well OsAman; did your Tigryan friend told you that Meqelle to number one in number of prostitution?

          • A.Osman

            Dear Nitricc,

            Education – Kids fail on purpose to avoid Sawa
            Water – There acute shortage of water supply in Asmara – if you are going to claim we built microdams, Ethiopians will laugh at you.
            Health Care – Now we have heath care tourism from Eritrea to Sudan, Ethiopia, Kenya and Egypt
            Prostitution – don’t know much about it, but I can tell you in Eritrea sawa has turned to raping ground and that is worse to me. Listen DIA respond to last question in Part 3 (link provided to Abyssinia) where the lady dared to mention the issue of prostitution…man don’t go far to point fingers lets deal with our house first.

            Regards
            AOsman

          • Nitricc

            Hi OsAman; never mind by bad. You will never get it. I wasn’t talking about Eritrea I was referring the typical slave mentality Africa between you two. Like I said, forget it, you won’t get.

          • Hayat Adem

            Hi Nitricc,
            1) Don’t say bad things about Africans. One, because they have no bad non-specific mentality to be despised about. Plus, you are nowhere to look them down.
            2) When someone talks about buildings, the logic of parallelism dictates you not to talk about other sectors if the issue is not about sector-to-sector analysis. Everything being equal, good and booming buildings of any city are superior to any other city without them.
            3) You could say something about bad policy priorities in comparison if you can prove it that Tigray has bad education/health and Eritrea has good education/health and that is directly attributed to Tigray giving priorities to buildings and Eritrea giving priorities to education and health.
            4) Is that a complicated logic to follow?
            hayat

  • Dis Donc

    Dear Hope,

    I doubt if all Tigrayans do hate Eritrea/ns. Am sure that generalization is not a good idea. Let me share a true story to what happened to a Tigrayan trader and his travaille at the Rama border in 1994, at the heght of TPLF and EPLF honey moon. We hitch-hiked from Adwa to Rama which had a ruined bridge and a fully running Tekeze river. This Tigrayan trader had cases of eggs which he planned to sell in Asmara. After spending so much in crossing the river and making it to the other side the Eritrean border guard told him that he couldn’t pass. I was so sad and volunteered to take the eggs and hand it to his relatuves that were waiting for him in Asmara.

    You have to be fair. While Eritreans were happily accepted in Ethiopia and doing trades, Tigrayans were not. And this was in 1991-1998.

    • Hayat Adem

      Dear DD,
      When people like Hope tells you , “I have never come across a ” nice” Tigreyan”, they are telling you how bad his heart is, how bad he is, how bad his surrounding is, how bad his environment and his world is. Amanuel Sahle once got a a play script he was asked to read and edit by a young Eritrean playwright. The title of the script was Chenawit Mutanta. Amanuel was repulsed by the title itself. He asked the author, “why would you pick such a title for your play?”. The author answered. “me’entan seb kitsiHb ille endaeley”. “anta ‘tay weridukha! ezia de’a ‘tay seb kitsiHb hamema tisiHb ‘mber! On the flipside, good people don’t come to you because you call yourself Hope. You need to act your name and stay clean.
      Please meet my all time superpure and superheroine human Tewhaba Berhe. Tewahba sadi: “I do not dislike the Eritrean people. I dislike very much the people who planned to bomb us. I dislike war.” She said these words in 1998 hours after her child was hurt, while holding her injured child, her only child, from an air raid of the Eritrean air force on a school in Meqele, according to the Washington Post.
      https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1998/06/08/school-attack-shocks-ethiopians/789d9d9d-04dc-4c32-8c97-f1b74f6c7867/.

      • Dis Donc

        Dear Madam Adem,
        While Eritreans suffered from current and former Ethiopian leadership, in an untold fashion, I am disappointed by your subtle fact that you too are generalizing by stating the “environment” and “heart”. I don’t think that Eritreans are born with that kind of heart, as you mentioned. Nor is there any environment that encourages for the Eritrean youth to espouse this kind of heart. For a simple proof of this, you can take a simple poll right here, in this forum, and see which number of Eritreans display a dislike for Tegaru and/or TPLF. The answer may surprise you; you will find out that only hardcore PFDJites are in tandem with your conclusion remarks.

        • Hayat Adem

          Dear DD,
          Wow, wow, wow! Hold on. I didn’t know Hope was our collective name. I was speaking into a fact of one person, like Hope. I was not generalizing on anyone else. So unless you want to claim hope is not hope or there is no hope or anyone like him, you are misspeaking.
          There is no such thing in me that says Eritreans, or even all members of PFDJ or those outside of PFDJ hate Tigriyans.
          Tewhaba represents all the good people and hearts in Ethiopia and Eritrea, and every pure human being on earth.
          Hayat

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Dear Hayat,

        I gave up with hope. Not that because he has the opposit view from some of us, he does not give enough deliberation to his thoughts. He is always in reactive mood. That is why he has a contradictory mind at display all the time. To say that he hasn ‘t seen nice people from tigray people is rediclous to say the least. Hope doesn’t have collected thoughts , and he is everywhere.

        Regards
        Amanuel Hidrat

  • Abi

    Hope dingirgiru
    Eritreans did not fight for 30 long years to do business in Ethiopia. No, Sir! They fought to do business in Eritrea. Am I missing something?
    Your last sentence should have been written in Gold. You know how much I hate back stabbers.

  • Abraham Hanibal

    Hi Hope,
    You wrote “I agree with you minus # 1!”, and you closed your message by writing “But yes,a BIG NO to Religion,Region and Ethnic based Politics and Parties!”. Haven’t you read that VF “would be totally ok” with a party named ‘Nara People’s Democratic Party’ implying ethnic based politics, or are you, as always, contradicting yourself?

  • Kim Hanna

    Selam Amanuel Hidrat,
    .
    Sir, all I am saying is Music Novice makes sense to an average guy like me more than you do. He talks plainly and precisely about CURRENT REALITY and how to navigate thru it with the least cost. If I can drop names I think Mr.SAAY more or less had said similar thing.
    .
    You, I am sorry to say, talk like a text book of the last century. Occasionally I see your declarations as if you are passing an Imperial decree like …..’let the pigs fly’. Well, they will not fly.
    .
    I know I said too much but it needed to be said.
    .
    Mr. K.H

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam KH,

      l could make an educated guess as to why, you as an Ethiopian, have found a groove to fit in, into MN ‘s strategy to keep the Eritrean people under the grip of tyranny. You are making this tactical alliance in the hope to break the Eritrean resolve and to create hoplessnes, thereby to fulfill your wild wishes to annex Eritrea again. Let me assure you this, that your dream won ‘t happen and our people sooner or later will be emancipated. Take a note on this. You just exposed yourself that you are one of the ill wishers of Eritrean people.

      • Kim Hanna

        Selam Amanuel Hidrat,
        .
        I almost missed this above gem of yours. You are either misreading/misunderstanding what I am saying or are in some place I cannot identify.
        For the record, let me say this so that there is no room for misunderstanding. If tomorrow, you conducted a referendum and 99.6% of Eritreans wanted a union with Ethiopia, I will be the first Ethiopian to say NO. Why do you think we need eternal trouble and problems?
        .
        Annex??? Do you think I want war for my country? It is a baffling logic indeed. I expect this kind of thinking and analysis from tes, or hope but getting it from you is a disappointment.
        .
        I have said it before, I have respect for you. However, your above statement subtracts from it.
        .
        Mr. K.H

        • Music Novice

          Greetings Kim H.,

          Let us discuss Realpolitik.

          Don’t you think the Ethiopian government, being the party that is in a relatively advantageous position after the silly conflict of 1998 -2000 (which the Economist compared to two bald men fighting over a comb), should be magnanimous and relinquish Badme to Eritrea.

          There is no doubt that bitter lessons have been learnt by both governments from the conflict. And I think, the Ethiopian government is much safer with the current Eritrean government and it is in Ethiopia’s interest to help this government solve many of its problems.

          What do you think?

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Music Novice,
            .
            I am with Abi on this. Badme is a non-issue to me, I still don’t fully understand why we are there. I thought that problem would have been solved by now, as the top leadership with hard feelings are slowly moving on.
            My hope is Ethiopia should always work with who ever is in Asmara and not interfere. Let Eritreans deal with Eritrean problems. Any help Ethiopia provides, other than refugee situations, will be looked at with suspicions with one group or the other for generations to come.
            .
            Mr. K.H

  • Kim Hanna

    Selam cousin Hope,
    .
    Do you like MN and what he stands for so far?
    .
    I just wanted to make sure that I am being complimented or condemned.
    .
    Mr. K.H

  • V.F.

    So Hope tsaeda. What’s wrong with my number 1? So you believe the regime in Asmara is not the source of our problems? Or you just hate woyanie too much that you are blinded? If I were woyanie, I would have long gotten rid of PFDJ and IA because they are the cancer of Ethiopia, Djibouti, Yemen, and of course much so for Eritrea. EPRDF is the enemy of PFDJ but not of the Eritrean people. They made mistakes in the past but they repented and they are healing the wounds they inflicted. Grow up old man. You need to be full of love and Hope. Not full of shxt.

  • Dis Donc

    Folks,
    For the record, I do not correct your mispellings. Never! Check the records! I am only trying to see proper words as what is written simply gives out a different meaning to the one intended. Examples:
    * compute for compete
    * Junius for genius (with a G? No, I doubt it)
    * bargun for bargain
    * dump for dumb (actually dumpster is the noun which in modern lengua dump is used interchangeably)
    * etc…

    • V.F.

      Hey Dis, the one thing that annoys me the most is this one: “…as I said IT before…” It happens everyday. The proper way is: “…as I said before…”

  • V.F.

    Dear Emma, if you care to know, I will give you my feedback later today. But for now, I just want to mention that small editing on grammar and some word choice would make your writing even more enjoyable. Particularly, keep close attention to your present and past perfect tenses. For something that happened in the past and is not continuous use past tense strictly. Use the auxiliary ‘has’ when something is projecting into the present from the past. Use ‘had’ for something that happened before another related event. My two cents for now. Take it lightly please.

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Dear V.F

      Well taken

    • Semere Andom

      Hi V.F:
      Let me correct you, Emma should not take it lightly, I mean the apt correction 🙂

      • Hayat Adem

        That was hilarious. Smiles everywhere, all over: out of the correctable, out of the corrective lines::))

    • Abel

      Mr perfect?Why don’t you focus on the subject like a grown up?

  • Kim Hanna

    Selam Awatistas,
    .
    Hayat Adem, once wrote about a saying that might be appropriate here. ——–A rooster when it comes in for the night, stops at the door, lowers its head and looks up, not to hit its head. The rooster thinks of itself as a 9 feet tall beast.
    .
    Music Novice is attempting to shake people up to the reality of the unrealistic Eritrean diaspora intellectuals and elites demands for their country. This line of reasoning is also applicable to a large portion of Ethiopian diaspora. The intellectuals can only envision utopia for Eritrea and Ethiopia. It is unrealistic and because it is politics can only lead to more suffering of the people, by extending and worsening the circumstances. I wish I could write like him, I would have plenty to say.
    .
    Of course, he is addressing only the good and decent intellectuals and not the ones with their own selfish or malicious hidden agendas.
    The PHDs and educated elites constantly declare from their high horses about the necessity of Democracy, justice, freedom of the press, equal representation and human rights etc. These fine aspirations do not even exist to a full extent in their own adapted nations of the U.S or Britain. To their credit at least some U.S politicians claim to ASPIRE for the perfect union, when they try to solve some of their centuries old nagging problems.
    .
    Mr. Amanuel Hidret, for example, if you read him carefully, as I have for years including his posts, has such a pure theoretical wish list for Eritrea that no other nation in the world has attained it yet; not U.S not Germany not Britain.
    .
    The strong language Music Novice sometimes uses, at some cost to the message, brings the discussion to the real world at hand. It deserves respect and dealt with accordingly.
    .
    My more or less understanding of Music Novice’s posts are applicable to both Eritrean and Ethiopian diaspora oppositions in a meaningful way.
    Get out of the rain and cold into the shed before talking about the dream house with a fire at the fire place. He is telling all of us, be a little humble and have a little humility, when you preach to a Menz or Hamasien farmers that you know what is good for them.
    The educated elite as knowledgeable as they are in many fields do not live in the area to see, hear, experience the daily chores along with anxiety of the people, and what their simple expectation and desire from life is. This fact has to have weight in all considerations. These people have lived the history. They have endured as only they can endure. Don’t make it worse, good intentions is no consolation. They have seen it come and they have seen it go. This is what this uncompromising man said, in my opinion.
    .
    I am grateful for people like Music Novice and T. Kifle who say with clarity of thought and the ability to teach. Talk about being the voice of the voiceless.
    .
    Mr. K.H

    • Dis Donc

      *adopted

    • Nitricc

      Hey KIM; I agree MN, I think MN stricken by a lightening or something happen. As of late, his points are simply splendid and nothing but the reality on the ground. Amen to that. However, what you got me lost is your comparison MN with T-Kifle. MN is voicing what is the truth in the ground and T-kifle is a mouth piece of TPLF; how on the world is T-kifle voice is representing of the voiceless? What are you saying?

      • Kim Hanna

        Selam Nitricc,
        .
        According to my friend V. F since you agree with me 50%, I am only right half the time. I know you and TPLF, no love lost there.
        .
        If MN speaks for Eritrea as it exists so does T.K for Ethiopia. I hope they get together once and show us the demarcation points so that we can live side by side without suspicion. What is wrong with tes these days. He has never been the same since selam left him and us.
        .
        Mr. K.H
        .

    • V.F.

      Hi MR. Kim. I was going to write back to you how condescending and despiseful MN is to the Eritrean people, both its elites and non-elites alike. But a savior showed up in Nitricc. If Nitricc strongly agrees with someone, that’s is the yardstick or gold standard by which that someone could be conclusively labeled as wrong. MN is wrong and there is no better proof of this than Nitricc agreeing with him.

      • tes

        Dear V.F.,

        You wrote, “If Nitricc strongly agrees with someone, that’s is the yardstick or gold standard by which that someone could be conclusively labeled as wrong. MN is wrong and there is no better proof of this than Nitricc agreeing with him.

        Well said.

        tes

      • Ted

        Dear VF, the many you in the past and whoever you be tomorrow, you are as interesting as floating plastic shopping bag in the air. There is no easy way of explaining your take on Eritrean politics, it changes faster than teenage facebook status from “In a Relationship” to “It’s Complicated”, expect to be “Single” and “Looking for Random Play”. it is the time of the year you take sabbatical to come back with a new. You have not found your groove yet but who knows! take tes with you, he has lost it and getting worse by the day every time IA scores a point.

        • V.F.

          Dear Ted, here is my stance plain and simple.

          1. the enemy of the Eritrean people is not TPLF/Woyanie/EPRDF or the Ethiopian govt. It is the regime in Asmara.

          2. What is the regime in Asmara composed of? 99.9999% IA and the rest are minions as Guest2 would say.

          3. What do I think of the opposition? Somewhat ambivalent. I am starting to look into Medrek a little more closely. I don’t know all that much Eritrean opposition groups but I know what they have as a product – a divided force of 10 or 15 people each. They do have fancy names and leaders.

          4. What should happen post IA? Have a state with a constitution, rule of law, democracy (as fits the Eritrean people). Restore the old awraja system. Do not divide the people by stupid zone numbers nor by ethnicity. Each province would be autonomous. No party based on religion whatsoever. I would be totally ok for a ‘Nara People’s Democratic Party…’ but not the ‘Islamic League of the Lowlanders…’ or “Eritrean partito cristiano politcal dei highalnds…”

          5. Future relation with Ethiopia – mutual respect but always working towards some sort of integration. It doesn’t have to happen by force nor immediately but when time and situations permit.

          I have never deviated from these list. Ever. Prove me wrong.

          Anything else you want to know Ted?

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam V.F.

            Well suited position. Stand firm on that, as it is the only way to go, and sureky will satisfay to all the agrieved social groups.

            Regsrds

          • Dear V.F.
            Your points #1 and 5 are the bombshells that would blow the very foundation of PFDJ’s existence. Be sure, it will fight tooth and nail so that these things do not happen ever. DIA, the PFDJ and its supporters know very well that they have relevance only as long as they are opposed to everything Ethiopian. In their minds, peace with Ethiopia under any future or present government would make Eritrea less important, Eritreans would be attracted to the center as they did in the past, and it would force the PFDJ out of business. Moreover, they fear that Eritrea will end up being a power at the periphery, which would disproves all the reasons for which so much sacrifice was paid and is being paid even today. They will be forced to answer many unpleasant questions and will be obliged to pay for their actions. You are disarming them, putting them at the mercy of the Eritrean people, undermining their ego, and making them toothless, as some people would like to say.

    • tes

      Dear Kim Hanna,

      Ok you are here to embrace MN’s approach. Well what else can we expect from Hailessilassi’s cult follower. MN is simple another OTTO* who recently popping up in trying to be just ‘All I know crap”.

      I have exposed his ignorance several times with supportive documents and then he tried to escape from my rebuttal by calling me what ever he wants. I don’t care what he calls me but I am here to make him a naked ignorant.

      tes

      *OTTO [Opposition – To- The – Opposiion]

      • Music Novice

        Greetings tes,

        This is what you wrote just in one paragraph: “I have exposed”, “my rebuttal”, “calling me”, “I don’t care”, “calls me”, “I am here”.

        tes, you are so full of yourself. Everything is about you, isn’t it?

        • tes

          Selam MN,

          It is much better to be yourself than be a die-hard follower of PFDJ junta. In case you forgot, here is your stand:

          “..for sure, I am a critical supporter of the EPLF/PFDJ as the only party capable of leading a united Eritrea.”.

          tes

          • Music Novice

            Greetings tes,

            Once a simpleton always a simpleton.

          • tes

            Selam MN,

            If your reasoning is what it made you to believe on PFDJ’s capability, it is much more worth to be a simpleton according to your beliefs. As for me I can’t reason out to be a cult follower except to stand against. If you call this a simpleton, let it be.

            tes

          • Abyssinia

            Hi tes,
            Inspired by Dis Donc, I hereby volunteer to offer to give some corrections. I will take your message as is, and give some grammatical corrections. Please do not take offense, see it as a brotherly correction and as an attempt to improve the quality of the forum.
            —————————-
            If your reasoning is what it made you to believe on PFDJ’s capability,
            it is much more worth to be a simpleton according to your beliefs . As
            for me I can’t reason out to be a cult follower except to stand against.
            If you call this a simpleton, let it be.
            —————————–

            With love, your brother

          • Dayphi

            Thank you Abyssinia for the brotherly correction. i learned some thing more on proper english writing, and long live to this institution of education at AWATE.COM, that facilitated for all of us this forum to teach and learn

          • tes

            Dear Dayphi,

            Learning proper English and Corrupting a message are two different things. I wish you tried to understand my sentences clearly. Saying that I can’t say I am perfect. I learn from sane minded people not from the other way round.

            tes

          • Music Novice

            Greetings tes,

            You said: ” I learn from sane minded people not from the other way round.”

            The other way round is: Sane minded people do not learn from me.

            I agree with you for once.

          • tes

            Dear Abyssinia,

            You are wrong on the way you tried to correct me. Do you want me to correct you?

            1. To believe PFDJ (your take) and to believe on PFDJ (my take) are two different phrases with different meaning. While the former one can include believing from a distance, without having attachment and the later is a complete adherent, a die-hard follower.

            2. …to be a simpleton and to be a simpleton according to your beliefs – the former one is open to interpretation while the later is strictly emphasizing on the strong belief he has.

            3. I can’t be….. and I can’t reason out to be…. – these have completely different meaning. I was talking on reasoning while you tried to make it as if I am rejecting to be.

            4. Where is except to stand against…..? Why you deleted a whole phrase that shows my stand. You are really corrupted editor.

            5. “a” – here a is introduced to differentiate on the simpleton raised by MN and my term simpleton. Mine is a new and unknown simpleton – which differs from what MN has put.

            Stay away therefore in trying to correct my own ideas. You don’t own them and hence you can’t correct them unless you are a corrupted editor.

            tes

          • Abyssinia

            Hi Tes,
            Don’t you give me some credit at least for correcting you on “what it made”? I did not think you would take this much offense. Sorry. But, I think you do not spend your time here unless you want others to understand what you write. Now the question is: do others understand your phrases and sentences as you have tried to explain them here? For me, the meanings you have given to your phrases and sentences are not there. I agree my correction can not capture what you wanted to say, that is why I stated my corrections are on your grammar . For example, I do no think “believe on” is correct. You can use believe in instead. The way you used except is also not correct. They way you used reason out is also incorrect. So just ask other forumers if they understand your messages the way you have explained them here.

          • tes

            Dear Abyssinia,

            If you corrected the grammar part without deleting I could have acknowledged you as the way you did now.

            tes

          • Abyssinia

            Hi Tes,
            It is okay. The message is not deleted; only an admin can delete your message. I edited a copy 🙂 Do not be so easily irritable. I mean, do not forget that you are aspiring to lead Eritrea, or at least contribute to its change. You need to develop some thick skin for that.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam tes,
            .
            Please don’t go Newtonian on me. I see the offending sentence you quoted. Now, can you name one, I mean, ONE other party capable of leading a united Eritrea. The top place never stays without somebody. I am here to tell you that in 1, 5, 10 or 15 years from now, we will know the name of that somebody. HE IS THERE NOW. He has a name. He does not know it himself most likely but he will be there on time. The question is whether he is capable of bringing a capable party to lead a united Eritrea. Until then I suggest you follow the naked truth, that is all you got.
            .
            Mr. K.H

          • tes

            Dear Kim Hanna,

            You asked me by saying: “Now, can you name one, I mean, ONE other party capable of leading a united Eritrea..

            Before giving you a response let me check whether your understanding about Eritrea of today.

            1. Do you see a united Eritrea under PFDJ? If your answer is “YES” – what is explain it breifly. And I kindly ask you to elaborate on the word “Unity” as it is the core point of my take.

            2. Your concept of struggle is very narrow and misleading. You said, I am here to tell you that in 1, 5, 10 or 15 years from now, we will know the name of that somebody….[you continued]…The question is whether he is capable of bringing a capable party to lead a united Eritrea.. Well this phrase if full of the unknown future to come.

            All in all you are occupied by FEAR. Let me tell you this: what we fight for is to overcome FEAR of the unknown. We have been a hostage of this fear for the last 25 years under the PFDJ administration. We don’t want to repeat the same mistake.

            In addition, your line of argument is the same as that of PFDJ cult followers and the silent majority. You are not saying anything new therefore. Get out of your fear if not go away from our path in search of justice.

            tes

          • Music Novice

            Greetings Kim,

            Do not worry, you are safe. The chap has no clue about Newtonian Mechanics, he is a Food-Tech expert i.e a glorified cook.

            The issue here is simple. Because tes has invented a new form of English, you have to unlearn the English you know.

    • aklilu zere

      Good day KH

      Given tow equal explanations, I will chose the simple and avoid the complex. The measure of true knowledge is to simplify complex issues.

      Forget the lofty dream for now. What we are asking for Eritrean people now are restoration of basic [just basic!] human [natural] rights that are absolutely and by intimidation and fiat denied to them by the dictator. Of course he is aided by PFDJ thugs and paid operatives who garb themselves with funny alias [ like Music novice, a name fit for an apparition, that is chosen not by random act but by a deep sub-conscious fear , doubt and guilt].

      As you are aware [because here you are given the right and access to voice your opinion freely by writing in Awate Nation] so we are constantly demanding that Eritrean people be not denied to speak freely [God gave them vocal cords]; to hear freely [God gave the ears]; to work and write freely [God gave then brain, heart and hands]; to walk freely [God gave them feet]; to see freely [God gave them eyes] and CHOOSE FREELY [God gave them freedom].

      To simplify our request: we demand the dictator and all those who support his action stop harassing the poor people and to stop pillaging the land.

      Is that too much or outrageous to ask?

      Regards,

      • Music Novice

        Greetings Akililu Z.,

        You said: “The measure of true knowledge is to simplify complex issues.

        This is not always true. For example, the amount the EPLF/PFDJ pays me is a complex issue but not simple? Can you, guess how much it is?

        There are also complex and not simple issues , which only very few people understand, such as by what miracle you are going to come to power in Eritrea.

        To add some more, Relativity and Quantum Mechanics and the proof of Fermat’s Last Theorem are true, but complex and not simple.

        Obviously, your ego has been hurt by fair criticism and you are trying to bounce back by name calling.

        • aklilu zere

          Dear MN:

          I apologize if I hurt your feeling. But there is no rational explanation to call yourself music novice [a name fit for an apparition]. Why hide under an alias in this day in age? Isn’t it a taboo to change the name that your Good father and mother proudly and joyfully gave you at birth? I use to do it because I was afraid of the dictator’s long arm [Real threat] until I was liberated by taking oath of citizenship in Awate Nation. Since you, of your own free will, chose to participate in this free form, there is no rational explanation but what I asserted in my above reply to KH.

          Dear MN: didn’t scientific America [magazine] simplified cosmology, astrophysics and quantum mechanics so that lay people would understand the complex issues? Do you know why? Knowledge should not be confined to only few chosen ones like they use to do in the dark ages and in Eritrea [which sadly is in dark age].

          I am battle hardened and I assure you I cannot be hurt by any criticism. Actually I cherish honest, fair and direct challenges. No ill feeling towards you brother.

          Regards,

          in this

          • Music Novice

            Greetings Aklilu Z.,

            You accuse me being a paid PFDJ operative and then you say “I apologize if I hurt your feeling (sic).”

            What does this show? It shows that you are not only a liar and a crook, but also an egotist eager to score a point.

            All this because I criticised you.

          • tes

            Dear MN,

            Why you are knocking a peaceful door which is supposed to welcome all in a wrong way? Come and engage with me. I am ok with people like you.

            @Awate Team: I don’t know why you are so tolerant to Music Novice? Doesn’t this line violates your posting guidelines?

            …It shows that you are not only a liar and a crook, but also an egotist eager to score a point.

            I am trying to intervene as much as I can before MN brings further damage to the forumers. And my intervention is trying to cool down MN from his irresponsible comments. I might be wrong but I am doing because I feel some responsibility. Any wrong, I will stay corrected but please take necessary measures against MN.

            tes

          • Music Novice

            Greetings tes,

            How come you did not protest when Aklilu z. was calling me a paid PFDJ operative?

            Do you agree with his accusation?

          • tes

            Selam MN,

            Let me here what AT to say. I am bored of you better to x-communicate you. I just thought you are at least better than the rest PFDJ cult followers who reside at madote and TN. I was wrong in assuming that way.

            tes

          • Music Novice

            Greeting tes,

            You are the biggest offender on this site.

            Are you scared of what I write? If you are bored, go and have a drink.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam tes,
            .
            It is not appropriate to say a liar and a crook. It is not appropriate to dare some one to reveal their given name. We all use names we feel appropriate for a variety of reasons at this forum. It is not the first time those who use their own names want the nick names revealed. That is not fair. If that is the requirement let the owners of the forum put it in the guidelines.
            Those who want to make names for themselves by using their real name good for them. Others participate only for the ideas of the post. It starts and stops there. I am sure the agents of PFDJ are always looking who is who at this and other sites.
            Who is trying to make their life easier here? Don’t forget even supporters like Nitricc occasionally criticize their tooth less leaders.
            .
            Mr. K.H

          • aklilu zere

            Dear MN:

            Reward comes in variety of ways. The greatest motivating factor in human beings is self interest. So if the system you are blindly defending is protecting your self interest that is one form of payment.

            Also: Who is getting out of line: Music novice or the real person behind the alias? My apology was to the real person and not the apparition.

            Regards,

        • Dis Donc

          Dear Musika,
          I am beating my head in trying to relate Quantum Mechanics and Relativity with Fermat’s theorem. Are you sure that you didn’t mean Fermi’s rule? Enrico Fermi and atom spin theory…. Because the two are different things. Okay now I will leave you two duke it out.

          • Music Novice

            Greetings Dis D.,

            Both the theories of Relativity and Quantum Mechanics, from Physics, are tricky.

            So is the proof of Fermat’s Last Theorem, a 350 years old problem from Number theory, done by Andre Wiles. The proof spans other branches of Mathematics and is complex and is more than 100 pages long.

            I did not say the problems were related. But who knows. in the future the theorem could help solve some Physics problem. As you may know, Mathematics always goes a few steps ahead of Physics.

      • Kim Hanna

        Selam aklilu zere,
        .
        No sir, it is not too much or outrageous to ask.
        .
        A story about mice, cat and bell came to mind. BTW, thanks to Awate Forum, I am addressing the Ethiopian opposition too. It appears to me both opposition groups (Eth&Eri) have the same set of poetry to the ears.
        .
        If I could be guaranteed that the poets will go and hang the bell on the cat, I will have no problem. I will admire the conviction and may be persuaded to donate money for the cause.
        But we all know that is not how it is played.
        .
        Mr. K.H

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Selam Hope,

    This time some of your questions are sensible, though most of them are addressed in my previous articles. I will get back to you this evening. But in the meantime, I will keep reminding you that my position regarding the administrative units are ” the provinces ” not ethnic based administrative units. On the equitable sharing to our minorities, I suggested a bicameral legislative one on proportional and one on equal representation. This is beside the power they enjoy within the administrative units. Keep in mind the executive is for the competing parties and the judiciary is for the legalese Community. Please revisit my article on the subject.

    Regards
    Amanuel Hidrat

    • Dayphi

      Thank you ustath amanuel for this clarification. The decentralized and administrative units we seek to have is based on awrajjas, not qebilas or ethnic based, as one ethnic group like jeberty, asawurta, are scattered in various regions. The ELL document make it clear that when they refer to lets say Metahitians, they mean all people regardless of their ethnic origin or qabila/ clan and even faith they adhere to, who reside in those regions.
      Cheers!

  • Music Novice

    Greetings Amanuel H.,

    In the first place, you need to get the philosopher’s name correct. His name is Immanuel Kant, not Emmanuel Kent! By the way, Kent is a county in the South of England facing the English Channel.

    Second, your assumption that people who support the current Eritrea government are unthinking and are programmed makes you lazy and disconnected from reality. There are many shades of people who support the government. Most of these supports are reason based. Some support the government because they agree with their vision, others give them the benefit of the doubt based on their liberation era credentials, and some others support them for lack of better alternatives, and some other reasons or a combination of these.

    Third, the immense majority of those who are in the inept opposition, such as yourself, have a similar third world guerrilla type of background. In what way are you better, in terms of competency compared to the current government? What proven experience of leadership do you have? Remember the last time you tried, decades ago, you failed and got kicked out of Eritrea. Just because you profess to be latter day converts to Western type of democracy, after being in a come for 40 years, does not give you a magic wand to solve the country’s economic, political and social problems. You are just telling the war weary Eritrean people to go into battle for you, by saying ‘trust us, we are better’.

    The conclusion is: Eritrea may not be rosy now, but with characters like the opposition, it will get worse. Eritrea cannot afford another revolution so soon. It is better to choose a step-by-step reform of the current government.

    My reminder motto is: “The revolution? When the shooting stops, and the dead are buried, and the politicians take over, it all adds up to one thing: a lost cause.”

    Ps. Hayat, take note.

    • Hayat Adem

      Dear MN,
      I’m taking notes.
      I see you on two different hills in months span and I miss the part you were on the valley between them. How and when did you cross?
      Hayat, respectfully.

      • tes

        Dear Hayat Adem,

        He crossed when he was exposed fully as nothing but a crap. In case you missed to read his views, this is his political stand:

        “..for sure, I am a critical supporter of the EPLF/PFDJ as the only party capable of leading a united Eritrea.”.

        This line says everything about MN.

        A comment given just 5 ago in this forum. And he told us that he was a dehai news follower.

        tes

  • Dayphi

    Thank you Ustath Amanuel for this great article. ( all your articles are great and educational btw.)
    It is unconceivable that we claim fighting for the removal of esayas and his one party system while keeping the centralized system of governance of EPLF style continue, where all the powers are concentrated in the central government, with no power delegated to regions. Each awrajja or set of awrajjas must have enough power constitutionally guaranteed with no possibility of central government interferring in decision of internal matters of that region or set of regions.
    Bless you brother Amanuel for mentioning the plight of our people in Afar/ Dankalia region, and clearing up they are for more regional rule within Eritrean Union.

  • Bayan Nagash

    selamat Haw Amanuel & Awatawyan,

    Knowing there are individuals like you who are willing and able to go beyond the limits of the status quo because of the combination of integrity and the faculty to reason, is just monumentally encouraging. I lack words to express my appreciation to your relentless fight on behalf of the dispossessed and the marginalized Eritreans irrespective of their proximity or lack thereof it to the nerve center of power is laudable undertaking. I am certain such a position that you have decided to take will not be taken lightly by some who consider you from their lot as though Eritrea has different lots. Eritrea has one lot and that lot belong to us all. You are the son of Eritrea. Period. At the risk of redundancy, I am availing the following poem again because it speaks to the kind of independent mind you exhibit one that knows no fear and one that is bound to awaken many more, one hopes.

    Where the mind is without fear and the head is held high
    Where knowledge is free
    Where the world has not been broken up into fragments
    By narrow domestic walls
    Where words come out from the depth of truth
    Where tireless striving stretches its arms towards perfection
    Where the clear stream of reason has not lost its way
    Into the dreary desert sand of dead habit
    Where the mind is led forward by thee
    Into ever-widening thought and action
    Into that heaven of freedom, my Father, let my country awake

    Rabindranath Tagore

  • T..T.

    Hi all,

    It takes a lot of courage to provide the right tool to define your problem and find an accurate solution. Because we don’t have the needed courage we are stuck in our unresolved problem, which requires the opposition to first judge itself before it judges Isayas as a failure. Many think that Isayas is the problem, when we are all the problems because each of us is denying that there are many victims, whose rights are violated each second by Isayas.

    The opposition has two problems: Not knowing the Eritrean problem, and Not using the right tool to resolve the problem. The more the opposition is on half solved problems; the more it is dragging itself into worse problems. The opposition proved to be weak and insecure deep inside when it failed to learn or profit by others’ experience – for quick reference here’s my posting of today in response to anonymous author where I was tempted to present the Ethiopian experience as an example for our solution, what a coincidence!:

    It is not about the opposition’s lack of seizing opportunities only but also about their not having clearly identified and defined their problem in order to seize opportunities that are available for resolving their identified problems. I would say the opposition can learn a lot from the Ethio-Eritrean federation and the Ethiopian rule in Eritrea. The bottom line is that many Eritreans now feel that they were much better off under the Ethiopian rule. Grasp and focus on their questions and concerns in order to seize the available opportunities of resolutions.

    After what Isayas did to many Eritreans many Eritreans are taking a break from their Eritrean-ness. They don’t even see the broken Eritrea under Isayas as glue-able and usable under a unitary state. So, what is the solution? Seize the first solution around you! Yup, that is the Ethiopian like solution: FEDERALISM LED BY MINORITIES- the Danakalis and the Kunamas. The power struggle between the power abusers: the Kebesas and the Metahits is unthinkable and is not workable to have a unitary state once again. That is what most reasonable call the delusional position of the opposition about the Eritrean question.

    Many oppose federalism because they don’t know about constitutionalism of a constitution as a covenant and how it makes the unity in diversity a successful rule with each local government focusing on its concerns to advance its people’s interest. Isayas already disrespected a lot and damaged the trust of all Eritreans in having a unitary state once again. So, you must be calling for: Identifying and defining the Eritrean problem in order to seize an opportunity to resolving all Eritrean problems effectively.

  • Mahmud Saleh

    Selam Ustaz/ ghedeem tegadalay/ Amanuel Hidrat
    Really, on intellectual level, an excellent piece, and a smooth reading. Giving it a theoretical foundation helps. I believe, here, you have hit several birds by one pebble/stone.
    1. liberating ourselves from the yoke of authoritarian tutelage
    2. Therefore, looking at socio-political problems through the lens of “present/actuality”; or looking at them objectively, and coming our with an objective assessment that leads us towards charting an honest roadmap that ensures the mutual benefiting and co-existence of our people who have paid an enormous price in order to be able to live a decent life, looking after each other and negotiating conflicting interests peacefully…
    3. In this regard, interestingly, you have brought more than three themes together
    a/ GEAN: I trust brother Bayan Nagash, and I welcome his latest comment which appears to be more than reassuring, I like the concept of “center”, and all my anxiety is based on priorities. Do such efforts bring different groups and group interests to the center thereby creating a enter gravity for the coalescence of justice seekers, or chip away energy and passion? Can’t we deal with group specific interests within a national framework? Don’t we already have groups that exist on those grievances? Is it right to frame the struggle as minorities against the majority elephant in the room? Does PFDJ cater to a specific ethnic group…Though We have empirical evidences that show us that the government is staffed, overwhelmingly, by personnel from one social group, is that the fault of the Tigrigna social group? Isn’t the Tigrigna in the trenches fighting the regime? In addition, if the government wants us to be mislead to believe that Tigrigna interests are gone with its demise (honestly, there are many who support the regime in this vain), should we be hoodwinked and take the bait?….These are some of the questions I will try to reconcile in the coming months through genuine engagement of all those who could help me settle my anxieties. My advice to the brothers in GEAN is to continue engaging the public, and I’m so proud of provoking the discussion on this forum. At one point, I had a conversation with Bayan, and I remember telling him that such efforts should be framed, introduced, discussed in a way that shows the so-called majority that it is in its interest to get engaged. That’s why I asked if the brothers from our Christian group were invited. It’s my believe that the engagement should continue in a manner that is transparent and reassuring all stakeholders. A Christian from Serae should be considered as much of a stakeholder as a Muslim from Sahel…
    c/ EASE: I have to do my own homework before I speak about this group. But I understand the panacea to these types of groups is discussing issues related to equitable sharing of resources and power openly and with due respect to our different social groups. Eritreans have a heads-up start on these issues. Because the price they have paid have been almost proportional to their numbers; their participation has been a 100% Eritrea-covering one. Unlike most countries where few individuals or a particular social group(s) claiming to have brought the change or independence, in Eritrea, all regions, religions and social groups participated in it. Therefore, the right to participate in all political life is not something charitable. However, political grievances should be framed politically.
    b/ The form of governance: You have enhanced it here to touch on the above issues, and I think you made a marvelous job. I think you have to leave it at this level. The technicalities could be discussed by appropriate bodies, a democratically elected Eritrean Constitution body…you can still promote your bi-camera suggestion, but if we go farther than that we will get entangled into the discussion we had (the issue of representation: ethnically or otherwise).
    Regards.