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Who Will Speak for the Voiceless Eritreans In Sudan?

The December 24 attack on Eritreans at the Shagarab refugee camp in Sudan, when criminal elements of the Rashaida, in collaboration with Sudanese security officials, assaulted, molested, kidnapped Eritreans and torched their huts, is not the first incident and, sadly, won’t be the last incident unless they find a protector. There are four parties that should, but have failed, to protect them: the Sudanese government, the Eritrean government, the International community and, lastly, the Eritrean opposition. This Pencil will focus on what we, in the Opposition, can do to ensure that this type of assault does not occur to our fellow compatriots in Sudan or anywhere in the world, for that matter.

Sudan

Sudan has 18 states of which three border Eritrea: Kassala, Red Sea. and Al Gadarif. These three states, which make up “Eastern Sudan” formed an armed group, the “Eastern Front,” and rebelled against the government of Sudan due to justified complaints of marginalization, extreme poverty, lack of development and power sharing by the central government. In June 2006, Asmara facilitated the “Eastern Sudan Peace Agreement”, which recognizes Sudan as a Federal Government and implements timelines for power sharing milestones. The agreement grants Khartoum authority over “national sovereignty and territorial integrity” and vests in the provinces all other powers not vested in Khartoum.

The population of Eastern Sudan is mainly a mix of Beja (Hadendawa, Halenga, Bisharin, Amrar); the Bani-Amer; Habab, and the Arab tribes. This ethnic composition was mostly reflected in the two large groups that made up the Eastern Front: the Beja Congress and the Rashaida [Arab] Free Lions. The Darfuri JEM and the Southern SPLA were part of the coalition to apply pressure on the Sudanese government and they didn’t receive anything from the “Eastern Sudan Peace Agreement.” Similarly, the Beni-Amer tribal confederation, that straddles the Sudanese-Eritrean boundary, has a large presence in Western Eritrea and in Eastern Sudan, did not benefit from the Eastern Sudan Agreement.

In the incident of December 24, as with all previous incidents involving kidnapping and human smuggling, Eritreans refer to “Arabs” as the guilty party. This most likely refers to criminal elements within the Rashaida group, newly empowered by the Eastern Sudan Peace Agreement, and tacit support from corrupt government officers from both governments.

The overhwleming majority of Eritreans who have been victimized by criminal elements of the Rashaida are Christians.

This is probably due to the tribal configuration in Eastern Sudan: every Sudanese and almost every Muslim Eritrean has a chieftain (“Nazir”) recognized by the local government of Sudan. What this means is that if a criminal from one tribe (for example: Lahawiyeen Rashaida) victimized a member of another recognized tribe (for example: an Eritrean Beja), then the family of the victim would have somebody to appeal their case to. This is not the case with Eritrean Christians and, armed with that knowledge, the criminals from the  Rashaida or other Arab tribes have been victimizing them for years now.

Eritrean Government

The Eritrean government has been making one argument over and over: Eritreans who leave their country are doing so for economic reasons and have no quarrels with the Eritrean government. If that is the case, why doesn’t the Eritrean government speak on behalf of the thousands of Eritreans, its own citizens, who continue to be brutally victimized?

The fact is that Eritrean youth are leaving by the thousands because they do not see a future for themselves in Eritrea. Even if one argues that this is an “economic” reason, economy is politics.   The maladministration of the Eritrean government is so pervasive that young people would rather risk death and worse than stay in their fatherland.

According to the Somalia Eritrea Monitoring Group (SEMG), the Eritrean government is not just indifferent to the predicament that Eritrean youth are facing. It is part of the conspiracy and benefits financially from the human smuggling enterprise co-ordinated by criminal elements of the Sudanese and Egyptian Rashaida rings. The criminal elements of the Rashaida are its partners in crime.

Thus, it is unsurprising that the Eritrean government would not say one word to express concern, much less take any action, to stop the abuse of its citizens. It doesn’t even use their miserable living condition as a “teaching moment” to warn its citizens about the perils of leaving Eritrea. As far as it is considered, they are just a commodity—a source of revenue when they are being smuggled; and a source of revenue when they send remittances to their families in Eritrea and, in some cases, ask for forgiveness and begin paying their “obligatory” 2% Diaspora Tax.

The International Community

Three days after the incident, the UNHCR has not issued a press release on the events of December 24. We understand that UNHCR has limited powers; and it can’t do much if the host country is frustrating its efforts. However, it has the moral bully pulpit to blow the whistle and alert the world of the suffering of Eritreans.

“Arabs-on-horseback torching huts of Black Africans” is what galvanized the world opinion of the Sudanese governments abuse of its own citizens in Darfur. This time the criminal elements torched Eritrean refugee huts, beat and kidnapped Eritreans, and will, if not stopped, traffic them. Therefore, UNHCR must alert the world: that is its responsibility.


Eritrean Opposition

Eritrean civil society and Eritrean charity groups have done admirable work in making the life of Eritreans in refugee camps more bearable. We would like to appreciate the modest work that Ethar Relief, ERIMC, ARAHA, Wad Sherife School, Kebire Relief, and other initiatives taken to support the mostly forgotten Eritrean refugees in Sudan. But as far as assertive political advocacy is concerned, the kind that would have been common during Eritrea’s armed struggle when the Fronts demonstrated, to friends and foes alike, that Eritrean civilians should not be messed with, the opposition has been severely lacking, with one glaring exception.

Five years ago, the Eritrean Liberation Front (ELF) wrote letters to President Omar Al Bashir as well as to the Minister of Interior and the local government of Kassala about the rampant acts of extortion, kidnapping and human trafficking that Eritrean refugees are subjected to. When it received no response, it identified the area where Eritreans were being held hostage by Rashaida gangs, and stormed it and freed some hostages. Khartoum, which is tasked with protecting Sudan’s sovereignty and territorial integrity, gave a strong warning to the ELF to cease and desist. The ELF wrote: “We will never accept that the children of our people whose sufferings we strive to end, to be vulnerable to coercion and extortion. And we say to these people that our people know how to defend their rights and to avenge themselves; the Eritrean Liberation Front will not keep silent and to the criminals ‘it spins back the act.’

This led to more discussions between the leader of the ELF, Hussein Khalifa, and the leader (Nazir) of the Rashaida, Sheikh Ahmed Humaid Al Barki. On February 5, 2010, the Nazir issued the following statement:

“We are appalled regarding what came to our knowledge, and [what we] learned from those who are directly concerned with what affects their people, that some unruly individuals belonging to the Rashaida tribe are practicing detention and kidnapping. The worst thing imaginable to Eritrean citizens, [who are] fleeing from their country for safety and a variety of reasons is, that this naughty clique commits heinous acts [on them] along the edges of the Eritrean Sudan border. At a time that the Arab Muslim Rashaida condemns and denounces such acts being committed against their sons and brothers of the people of Eritrea, it considers such childish acts not only a ruining of the safety and security of Eritreans, but the safety of the Rashaida and the general population [that lives] around the Eritrean Sudan border. It further exposes their common interests and welfare to high risks. We cannot in any way allow the absurdity of the handful of unruly individuals who do not adhere to the values of the Arab Muslim Rashaida who rescues the needy, gives security to the fearful, feeds the hungry, champions the oppressed and is a good neighbor.
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“We the Rashaida, live in eastern Sudan and in Eritrea; we live among our brothers of the tribes of the east and [other] tribes throughout Sudan and Eritrea in peace and harmony and love. We solve the basic things that occur here or there relying on our tribal traditions and based on exalted Islamic teachings. These noble values prevent us from accepting such childish behaviors [among us]. Thus, we assure our people in Eritrea [that] our tribe will not allow this unruly criminal bunch which is devoid of conscience, in committing such blunders under [the Rashaida’s] name and in its region. We will face them with determination and decisiveness and follow all the means to stop this outrageous behavior. We assure all Eritreans that their Rashaida brethren–all their clans and branches—reject this dirty work that doesn’t befit them. We will work with the Nazir’s office to stop these despicable acts that doesn’t look like us at all and we will stand with our people in Eritrea in good times and bad.
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“Once again, we say that the Rashaida are innocent of these heinous acts which we will uproot from our region and in all our residential areas; confirming that these unruly boys [plan] to profit from the suffering of our people in Eritrea, they do not represent the values and nobility of the Rashaida. They are unruly boys who do not imagine the weight of the responsibility of the hostilities that these acts might create and bring about the scourge to their people. With this, we repudiate these outrageous acts, and God willing, we will work aggressively to stop it and bring it to its limits.”
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Nazir Ahmed Humaid Al Barki
Nazir of the Rashaida

That was in 2010. Four years later, a similar “wake up call” is required by Eritrean opposition organizations who are fighting to bring relief to Eritreans. If they can come together to write joint statements condemning this act, if they can take the initiative to reach out to the Nazir of the tribes of the criminal elements, and probably issue a stern warning to the criminals, then they can confidently say that they speak for and are fighting for the rights of Eritreans.

Somebody needs to speak for Eritreans in Sudan. It won’t be Sudan; it won’t be the Eritrean government; it won’t be the International Community. Therefore, it must be US, the Eritrean opposition.

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  • Nitricc

    Oh my? don’t you think feeding your people should have come first? well, i am not sure what all about this is but i am sure it will blow on your…….

  • Gud

    Rodab/Abrham H

    Kids, are we playing “fake surprise” now? Ok, here is one for practice:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tilwQ92SAhU

    • Abraham Hanibal

      Hi Gud;
      It depends on what state of mind you are. If your mindset is in tune with that of dictators, who consider themselves as more important than the entire People of a nation, then it might not surprise you.
      Wish you wisdom in the new year.

      • Gud

        Dude,

        If your surprise is about the new constitution, then you must have been sleeping for the last whole six months.

        Or may be your brain registers data only once every six months + 1day, or something, so that PIA’ Independence Day speach and all the fun fare after that slipped past your hibernating brain.

        Or worst, perhaps you just become the latest victim of the twisted, woyanie-abid ( the guy you are communicating with) lost souls

        Otherwise, your “oh, my God, new constitution?” Doesn’t make any sense

        Besides, don’t you know most of the people in this forum, like the old guy, Amanuel H, were against that constitution and were threatening us they will hang themselves if that constitution is put into place? Something to do with minority’s right or something? Or perhaps that happened during that 6 months Step your mind has to follow.

        Kid, next time you want to communicate, and feel like saying fancy words like dictator or something, know your audience first, ok?

        • haileTG

          ኣንታ ኣብራሃም ነብሲ፡ ንዚኣ ሰብ ረኺበ’ልካ ዲኻ ትዛረባ ዘለኻ? ሓንቲ ዘይትረብሕ ጥዋይ ማስቲካ ህግደፍ፡ መረቕ ወዲኣ ህግደፍ ቱፍ ከይብልዋ እያ እኮ ሃዝረጥረጥ ትብል ዘላ። ህግደፍ ንስኻ እንተትኸዶም ነዚኣ ኣብ ዕዳጋ ሓሙስ ቆርቦት በጊዕ ክትሸይጥ ማቫይ ምበልዋ። ርካሽ እዮም ዝብልዋ ብድሕሪኣ (ነገሩ እኳ ኣብ ኣፋ እንተበልዋ ውን ትስሕና እምበር ትገብሮ የብላን)። ዘይሕግዝዋ ደኣ መጺኦም ኣዲኣ ከምዝጠፍኣታ ማሕስእ ዋር ትብል ዘላ። ነዚኣ ግደፋ፡ ካብቶም ኢሰያስ ዘ ቢሔረ ቦልሺት ዝብሎም ዓስራይ ክፋል ሕብረተሰብ እዮም። ሚስኪናይ ህግደፍ ክልተ ብዕራይ ኣጋጪዩ ዝኣከቦ ጥርቅምቃም ዶላር ጌራ ዓዲ ዓዲ ክትገይሽን ሰልፍ ደርሆ ክትምንጭትን ትጽበ ናይ ግዳም ገልዳም እያ። ባፋንኩሎ ዩ ትዊስቲድ ፈይስ ኒያንደርታል ኢልካ ክተታ ኣብርሂሞ ፡-)

        • Abraham Hanibal

          Hi Gud;
          First I’wd like to tell you that I’m born free man and have the ability to make my own judgements. I don’t need to rely on someone else’s beliefs and ideas to make an opinion about something. unlike you, who echoes day in day out the dictators ideas and views, I’ve the ability and willingness to see at matters from my own independent point of view.
          Of course, I know the dictator and his instruments like you, would never accept the fact that power belongs to and should emanate from the People. This latest interview, and the speech on Independence day are the same senseles and boring repeatitions, and lies, but this time the dictator has made it crystal clear that the Eritrean People doesn’t deserve a rule of law, and its youth and the People in general are cursed to indefinite servitude without compensation.

          • Gud

            Hey kid, this is what you said yesterday:

            “I cannot really believe what I’m hearing from the dictator. Throughout the past decade and half, I was wondering how the dictator would face a question regarding the Eritrean Constitution of 1997 which was worked by a lengthy, paricipatory and democratic process. To see the dictator desecrating that sacred document of the Eritrean People in this way is undescribable. I don’t have the right words to express how I’m feeling right now”

            That gives the impression that you did not hear about the drafting of the new constitution six moths back. It surely looks like you are violently reacting to a new news. so it can only be either of the following:

            1) You heard PIA’s announcement 6 months ago, and you already know the answer to your question ” I was wondering how the dictator would face a question regarding the Eritrean Constitution of 1997

            …” . If that is the case, it means you are faking a reaction now. Or may be you did it to please the woyanie-abid, or you just wanted to go with the flow
            2) You just heard about the constitution from yesterday’s interview and your surprise and outburst is genuine. But that in turn means you been sleeping for the last 6 months, or did not follow news regarding Eritrea during these six months
            So, which one is it?
            But, for the record, when you said you are a free man, I believe you. So, no attack is intended here, just leading you in the right track. And, had you paid a close attention, you would not have missed that I was not attacking your view, just that reaction doesn’t make sense. So, relax.

          • Abraham Hanibal

            Hi Gud,
            First, you need to grow up and show a bit of decency when you address people. Regarding the Constitution, I heard the dictator announce that drafting of a new one would start soon, to the great astonishment of the great majority of the Eritrean people. At that time, and the decade and half before that, the dictator didn’t dare to face a question regarding the 1997 Constitution in any occasion. Rather he and his apologists were blaming the no-war-no-peace situation for not implementing it.

            What makes his latest interview unique and unbelievable is that the dictator had the courage to tell the people what his views were and are regarding the free democratic choice of the people. He is saying that he has the power to thwart the people’s choice at will. He has even put a question mark as to the credibility of those who drafted the 1997 Constitution, and the processes that led to its ratification. which comprised of a Constitution Commission drawn from the PFDJ Central Commitee, and other individuals with expertise. The process of drafting of that Constitution was farely democratic; it gave the people, both inside and outside the country, the chance to debate and have a say on it. And the whole process was finally ratified by a Constitutional Assembly which comprised of the Eritrean National Assembly and other Eritrreans from inside and outsdie the country, their number totallling more than 500.

            As if all the above process was not done under his leadership, the dictator is now telling the people that Constitution was doubtful, and that he is going to give them a better Constitution instead of that. With this interview, the dictator made it clear that it was not external threats that hindered the process of democratization in Eritrea, but rather it is his evil will of holding to power indefinitely,at the expense of the Eritrean people’s choice. Dear Gud, think over what kind of an individual you’re defending.

          • Gud

            Hey kid, you need to drop your preaching tone
            Now, to the either or question above, which one is it? I think you are choosing number one, right? i.e
            You already knew about the constitution, but you were so numb for 6 month. It was only when you hear about it again yesterday that you kind of wake up. But the main trigger for your full blown rage was the Woyanie abid? Help me here, it is a freaking simple choose question

          • Abraham Hanibal

            Hi Gud;
            I’ve expressed my disgust and protest at the overall policies of the tyrant ever since he hunted down and disappeared those who spoke in support of the implementation of our Constitution. And I don’t need to announce to you, Gud that I’m protesting whenever I do so. The illegal actions of the dictator are as deplorable then as they’re now. The only difference now is that the dictator has the courage and the gut to unashamedly declare a Constitution drafted and ratified by the Eritrean People as a “dead document”. Stay assured that when I participate in this forum, it is for exchanging ideas and opinions with others, and learn from others. I’m not here to appease or please someone. I’m the sole owner of my ideas, and I urge you follow suit, instead of echoing the evil ideas and defending a tyrant who’s despised by his own People. Having said this, I rest my case here.

  • haileTG

    Selamat Awatista,

    Usually, I tend to only focus on poems and songs and the likes when it comes to our youth organizations. Their politics has long way to go to mature, but it is good to encourage them. One key PFDJ resemblance I see in them nowadays is their consistent “Menyu” (who is so and so analysis) done on people they fall out with. My advice:

    1) If you try to tell me the negatives of a person you just fell out with, I would find it an insult to me which would make me have 0 respect for what you do.

    2) If you have crimes to divulge about someone that has fallen out with you then,

    a – the person is alleged criminal innocent until proven

    b – you are confirmed criminal by your admission of knowing the crimes and withholding them till the time you felt you could benefit from it. That makes you a collaborator and have already confessed to it.

    It is ugly to see such trash behavior of PFDJ being copied by those who say to commit to justice. I have been reading much so much back and fro by people on social media and thought older awatstas can advice the youth that we have a tradition that is not in PFDJ books. Why do our young people do that to each other? No common sense, Perhaps?

  • haileTG

    Haha…chill, chill you know its over don’t you. If your miserable loser is left with nothing to say other than that trash, think how you gonna save your behind and the nasty legacy of thievery and skimming to your children. Think escape… it is closing real fast. Your tin pot dictator had the temerity to talk development when his undisputed “woyane” teachers are showing the world how to do it in style while slapping him down to his useless hell hole with their little finger. Losing sure seems genetic for some.

  • Nitricc

    AT you said
    “Sudan has 18 states of which three border Eritrea: Kassala, Red Sea. and Al Gadarif. These three states, which make up “Eastern Sudan”
    I couldn’t see that Al Gadarif bordering with Eritrea. From Port Sudan to Kessela to Gedarif is a long way. I can’t imagine Eritrean land to be stretched that much. Because from Al Gedarif to Wad Medani is not that far and next is Khartoum. I don’t get it. Al Gedarif is more to Gonder that to Eritrea. confused!
    Having said that is fair to say the Eastern Sudan president is PIA?

    • saay7

      Nitricc:

      We screwed up: you win:)

      saay

      • Nitricc

        SAAY, would please quit it, saying “I win” and “I am Right” now the Dedebit grad will be all over me : – )
        Tyhanks SAAY.
        Thanks SJ good explantion.
        Semere; I heard it before that Kesela was Eritrean. is it true, just like the Ethiopians 3000 years thing

        • Saleh Johar

          Once more to your rescue Nitricc,
          When the egyptians lost the Mahdists and wanted to leave to Egypt, the only way out was to evacuate their troops from Kessela and Western Eritrea, was through Massawa. Atzie Yohannes and the British made a deal: Ethiopian troops to help the evacuation and in return the British would bless Massawa, Western Eritrea and Kassala to Atzie Yohannes. A British colonizer (Anglo-Egyptian Sudan) prmised the land of others to Atzie Yohannes who sent his trusted General Alula to relieve the Egyptian garrison in Kessela, and the famouse battle of Kufit happened where Blatta Gebru, the right hand general of Alula was killed. But Alula enabled the Egyptian troops a safe passage to Massawa from which they returned to their country. The British promise was frustrated when the Italians took over what the Egyptians left. This is very, very summarized–I encourage you to read more about it. But Eritrean (and in the past Ethiopian) claim is based on this.However, tribes of Western Eritrea base their claim on the history of the Funj dynasty that ruled the area. There is an Ethiopia racist, derogatory word, “Funga” and that derived from the Funj, just like “Shanqilla” is the derogatory word derived from “ben Shenqil (or Beni Sahngul)” Just like Baria has become synonymous with “Gila (slave)” because Ethiopian warlords were enslaving Eritreans from Gash who are called Baria people (I am sure you know them as Nara now).

          • Rastaman

            “The British promise was frustrated: ‘when the Italians took over what the Egyptians left'” Well, the Italians stayed in Kessela until just before Mussolini joined the Axis. The Italians were granted a request by the British for a swap of land in Southern Sudan (bordering Ethiopia) for Kessela, in their plan to occupy Ethiopia. I recall reading it from Michaela Wrong’s book, “I didn’t do it for you”

          • Crocus

            I do not know if the Funj are short of stature, as I have never seen one, much less the entire population to make an inference. But the term funga (Amh.) is generally understood as meaning “short [of stature]”. The name Paul is said to mean “the little one”. Ethiopians describe St. Paul as a “funga”. I am sure there is some mysticism in there, as Paul was a figure of the Underworld, a sphere generally considered “low”.

            On a separate anecdote, the Amharic verb fenegele, it now appears, stemmed from the Funj. Fenegele denotes the act of “taking a person into slavery”. A slave raider is called Baria fengai.

            That is a fascinating history that falls into place.

          • Saleh Johar

            Haha Crocus, leave St. Paul alone. Funga is a racist remark. Accept it as it is, a product of history not present politics. When the slaves were raided, it was under Abyssinian warlords, I didn’t say Ethiopian or Eritrean. Just Abyssinian warlords. But the main culprit is Dejatch Wube though there were many others.

          • Abinet

            Ato Saleh
            Happy new year
            First of all you said ” ethiopian warlords” not Abyssinian . I understand it a slip of a finger.
            Second, the word “funga” is not racist. It can be deragotary depending on how you use it .
            Funga means ” melke – Tfu” .
            You can say ” she is funga , which means she is not good looking. At the same time you can say ” yene funga” which shows closeness or even affection. Be carful not to say funga for a person specially a woman if she is really melke-Tfu.

          • Selam Abinet,
            From what I remember, Funga (ፉንጋ) means a woman or a child with short or small nose, which may and may not mean ugly, as you said.
            Enjoy this:
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxmqAt0svNM

          • destaa

            Selam Horizon
            Hahaha…I enjoyed your music and how the guy tried to beautify Funga. But I think Abinet is correct. Funga means not good looking. Let me give you Zeritu’s song which talks like that
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5WqCaG5ReU

          • Saleh Johar

            Dear Horizon,

            Describing someone’s short or small nose is the pinnacle of racism. Just like those with flat nose, nappy hair and dark skin face. People do not say that in admiration or as an innocent description of a person’s features, they use it derogatorily. It implies and means “ugly”.

          • Dear Mr. Saleh Johar,

            I was looking at the term in comparison to the so many derogatory terms that go around in everyday life, much worse than funga. Funga, I think, is used both to tease or to degrade somebody. As in the video, there are times when the term is not so toxic.

            Happy New Year to the Awate Team and all participants of the site.

          • Hayat Adem

            Actually, it may be more than some physical features. It may as well be about a group. I met a sociologist and who did a study about a Funga tribe (an outcast) in Southern Ethiopia on the way to Arbaminch. He told us details I may not remember now well but this is group who don’t live in proper houses. I apologize if I am creating it but I thought he said they also feed on dead animals. But he was admiring them for the beauty of their drum beats and music in times of loss. When ever some one well known passed away, they were invited to the mourning house and let take over the stage to show their talents. He kind of was boasting to whisper to a well known urban musitians to drive out and spice up their boring melodies.
            Hayat

          • Abinet

            Hayat
            There is always something to learn when you are around.
            Thank you
            Happy new year

          • Rahwa T

            Selam Hayat and Abinet,

            I doubt about the existence of a tribe called “Funga”. I have had traveled to the southern Ethiopia few years ago and I don’t remember a tribe by that name. In fact I had the chance to stay there for few months, but never heard of that word other than its usage in its derogatory sense (as Abinet said). I don’t know if you mean “Surma” or “Bodi”. Frome the hearsay I heard, these two are said to feed on dead bodies.

            Happy New Year!
            R.T.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Rahwa T,
            .
            I hope you meant dead animals, otherwise I would like to hear a lengthy sourced explanation.
            .
            K.H

          • Rahwa T

            Selam Kim
            Hanna,

            In fact it is hearsay. I don’t think there are peoples who witnesses about this. I am afraid I would write whatever I heard during my visit at the forum. Partly it is because they are my compatriots. The main reason is because it is neither first hand nor second hand information. It is just hearsay. You know that there many stories we couldn’t prove. I am sure you have heard about the Menji community (tribe) in southwestern part of Ethiopia. So take this information as it is and check it if you, by any chance, visit the Omo valley.

            Happy New Year!

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Rahwa T,
            .
            Thanks. I will try.
            .
            K.H

          • Saleh Johar

            Thanks Abinet, it might have been a slip of the finger…
            Funga is derogatory and if pop culture adopted it as an endearment, it is just like African Americans use the N word among each other, but that doesn’t change its original meaning. Do you feel me “Ma N” 🙂 I think it should be erased from the culture, just like the word “Baria” which is overwhelmingly used among Abyssinians, just like the Arabs use the word “Abd”. See! We share the same racist demeanor with the Arabs 🙂

          • Crocus

            Is not the correct translation of “abd” synonymous with “servant” or agelgay? I think people use it carelessly to imply bondage and slavery, but Arabic itself does not seem to use it as a term of bondage. I understand Abdella (Abd-Allah) to mean simply “Sevant of Allah”.

            Incidentally, it is supposed that the term “slave” and “servant” or “servile” trace to “Slavs” and “Serbs,” respectively. These terms may have come into use during the Roman Empire. Roman legions were active in what is now Bulgaria and the Balkans in general.

          • Crocus

            Dear SJ: I will accept your slip of finger. That said, I never understood the term funga to be flattering. Certainly it is derogatory. But I never took it to be racist either, as I have heard it applied to anyone from any ethnic group that fit the bill. And it was always used as synonym of “dink,” albeit more pejorative. This is why I mentioned St. Paul. Westerners would tell you that Paul meant “the Little One”. But no context is given. I was flabbergasted to learn a long time ago that Ethiopian churchmen used the term funga to describe what St. Paul was thought to have been. It stuck in my mind because this word gave context to why Paul was thought to mean “the Little One,” as in the PC word “Little People” (midgets). The sense of funga as descriptive of someone with “stubby nose” or anyone who might be called “melke thifu” never entered my mind. But then language is dynamic: it evolves and the sense may have been expanded to capture a lot more than just being a midget.

            I still wonder whether the Funj gave rise to the “slave raiding” term “fenegele”. I was not aware of the Funj until you mentioned it in your comment. I had always supposed that fenegele was a permutation of feneqele (to uproot). Still I find the connection intriguing.

            There is also another term that echoes Funj: it denotes a second generation offspring between a half-slave and a “Chiwa,” called Finaj, something I learned from an anthropological research I was involved in a long time ago. So I do not leave you with an incomplete picture, the system worked in such a way that a slave was freed of his bondage and stigma in seven generations to the extent the generations were born from Chiwas. Thus, a slave and a Chiwa brought forth a Wilaj; a Wilaj (half-slave) and a Chiwa brought forth a Finaj; then successively, Qinaj, Ameleth, Aseleth, Man Beté, and the seventh generation, Dur Bete. (A Dur Beté runs away free to the woods [dur].)

            This is purely for educational purposes. No need to get carried away….

          • Crocus

            A comment I had posted disappeared. Curious, what went wrong?

          • Crocus

            Baria, however, is as much a Tigrigna word as Amharic. You cannot pin the practice of slave raiding only to Ethiopian warlords. I personally know of Eritrean aristocrats just as guilty of the practice.

          • Nitricc

            SJ
            Thank you very much. I really do appreciate it for taking your time and educate me.
            Interesting, in Amharic they describe to a woman not so good looking as “Funga” and for good looking one “Ariff”

        • saay7

          Selamat Nitricc:

          Ok, fine. I guess I won’t share the news that you were right, that the Ethiopian chopper was a Christmas present and Ethiopia is NOT going to press the case to get it back and those who were just PRAYING and AGITATING that Ethiopia would use this ocassion as an excuse to invade Eritrea and bomb it just to save it will be disappointed?

          http://www.diretube.com/articles/read-ethiopian-government-hasn’t-tried-for-the-return-of-combat-helicopter-from-eritrea_7830.html#.VKIu914CA

          saay

          • Gud

            Saay,
            Come on
            Nitricc’s intention was always to show that Hayat individual was a Tigrayan pretending to be Eritrean. Meaning Adi Grat was just a random pick. It was about the person and not about any place in Tigray or Ethiopia, that is guys are twisting

          • saay7

            Selamat Gud:

            I know, Gud. The thing is: there are two Nitriccs. There is the independent-thinker who can look at the insanity of isaias afwerki and, despite the fact that he admires him, can speak truth to power. Then there is the generic pro-PFDJ Nitricc who says Adigrat, Dedebit as punchline when he has no clue at all what they are and what they mean. So, since he said (a long time ago) that I am his mentor (before Awatistas of The Year Mahmouday adopted him), I am trying to tell him to think independently and not just echo meaningless punchlines.

            Adi Grat is home to Debre Dammo (a holy place for Tewahdo Eritreans.) It is also the last stop before you reach Ahmed Al Negashi mosque (a holy place for Muslim Eritreans, and a history place for Muslim Africa.) So he is just repeating meaningless words he heard from hgdefites and he is much better than them and I am reminding him.

            The person he is taunting, on the other hand, is a robotic EPRDF echo chamber and would not, in a million years, criticize the people the person admires despite the fact that they have massive human rights violations. So, to me, that person is more robotic than Nitricc who occasionally shows flashes of independence:)

            saay

          • Gud

            “…… Nitricc who says Adigrat, Dedebit as punchlines when he has no clue at all what they are and what they mean……”

            Not a true statement. Adigrat and Dedebit are in Tigay, Ethiopia. Knowing just that serves his purpose.

            “…Adi Grat is home to Debre Dammo (a holy place for Tewahdo Eritreans.) It is also the last stop before you reach Ahmed Al Negashi mosque (a holy place for Muslim Eritreans, and a history place for Muslim Africa.)…” so? it is still in Tigray,

            and again it serves his purpose

            Punchline? I think you say PFDJ way too many times, unnecessarily on each and every sentence you say, than he says dedebit or any punch line he uses.

            Mentor? Actually I have different ኣናብባ on that one too. Nitricc amoung the very few (him and Dawit, that is) who is indipendent, stands on his own, never goes with the flow, never confines himself in narrow group thinking. Never crmbles and fall when all of you gung up on his (Compare that with your emotional lost soul, who went into isolation, from just one confrontation from SAAY:)

            Meaning, he should be not only yours but also all of you combined. Serious
            But of course, that shouldnt be a surprse, he is closer to PFDJ than oll of you 🙂

          • Gud

            Saay,

            ” ..Rambling Isaias, has essentially run out of steam and is running on fumes..”

            ኣናብባኻ ጽቡቕ የለን
            PIA never looked better, never seemed calmer and kind of more to the point and passed the messeges he wanted to pass.

            Sure, some people will say, oh my God!, enaugh is enaough, down down, weed out pfdj. But that is not new, they are kind of addicted to it, and every year this guys talks they get their fix…..
            And we will do it next year……again! and the next, well untill the time is ripe…..

          • saay7

            Selamat Gud:

            So, taking 20 minutes to answer one question, and then not answering it, is not “rambling?. What is it then? Wait…let me see…”kind of more to the point”. I will take that, it is a baby step, a “kind of” victory for the GLF (Gud Liberation Front.)

            Happy New Year!

            saay

          • Nitricc

            Come-on man!
            SAAY, you are learning to take things the wrong way from your Ethiopian friends. Why would you think I will have a problem with Adi-grat? Or Dedebit? I have a problem with Hayat disguising her self as Eritrean and it was my way of expression to show my disagreement. And If that is your way of development and growth, what you have in the youtube, good for you! why don’t you get out two killometrs out of Adi-grat and tell me? you see, I do disagree with you! So, SAAY chill out I have no problem with a single person or any country let alone with Tigray and Ethiopia. Some times it is good to have fun. SAAY if I need something to say, I don’t go around the bushes. I just say it. But on this one I am just having fune
            Gud, thanks for understanding my point.

    • Semere Andom

      Ni Nitricc:
      AT did not screw up they were talking bout when Kassal was part of Eritrea, there fore Gadarif bordered Eritrea;-)

    • Saleh Johar

      Nitricc, Gedaref state is immediately south of Kassala. Um-Hajjer don’t border Kassala, but Gedaref state. Yes, the three state border Eritrea. Gedarif also borders Ethiopia west of Humera. You can draw a triangle there connecting Hamdait, Umhajjer and Humera.

  • haileTG

    The 1997 Constitution has finally been announced dead by the dictator. Shame Yemane Monkey and other monkies:-)

    • Rodab

      ቅዋም 97፣ ከይተተግበረ ዝሞተ ሰነድ’ዩ ተባሂልካ ኣለኻ ሃይላት ዓርከይ
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj1zSt7kQ9Q

      • haileTG

        Hey Rodab,

        That was a drama… very funny. The journalist tells him “there is a constitution ratified in 1997” and the guy replies “There is none because it died. We don’t need to declare it because it would be such a waste of time”…gosh if the journalist had it in him, he should have said, “well, thanks for that dud, although had you declared it I wouldn’t have made an azz of me infront of all the smarty panty diaspora…jesus…well ok rebi…oh well”

      • Abraham Hanibal

        A coup that has taken 15 years to finalise has been sealed with this interview of the dictator. You may mislead us once, or twice, but never for ever.
        This is a clear message to any naive Eritrean who believes the PFDJ is reformable is pure insanity.
        ብኣበሃህላ ዉልቀ መላኺ ኢሳያስ፥ አቲ ናይ 1997 ቅዋም ጉጅለ ኢሳያስ ብገርሆም ከለዉ ዝተቐበሉዎ ሰነድ ኮይኑ፥ ሎሚ ግን ድሕሪ 17 ዓመታት ድሕሪ ምጽዳቕ እቲ ቅዋም፥ ጉጅለኡ ብዙሕ ተማሂሮምን ጎሪሖምን ስለ ዘለዉ፥ ነቲ ቅዋም ኣብ ጎሓፍ ደርቢዮሞ ኣለዉ።

        • haileTG

          Hi Abraham,

          And with that all those who were killed, jailed, tortured and so forth because they said we needed constitution were buried for good. He can take away the people’s will and squander it however he wished. Nothing can be more of an insult to a nation and people than that.

          • Abraham Hanibal

            Hi Haile;
            I cannot really believe what I’m hearing from the dictator. Throughout the past decade and half, I was wondering how the dictator would face a question regarding the Eritrean Constitution of 1997 which was worked by a lengthy, paricipatory and democratic process. To see the dictator desectating that sacred document of the Eritrean People in this way is undescribable. I don’t have the right words to express how I’m feeling right now. Really this mad man knows no border in his contempt towads an entire People. This should be a wake up call to each and every Eritrean, even those naive ones who expect to see a meaningful governance from this man.

          • haileTG

            Hi abraham,

            The intents and modes operand of the dictator is more significant than his real capacity to enact it. He really isn’t capable of writing a new constitution that is essentially different to the old one. He can’t propose devolved government, federal government or other unique set ups. It is just the same model, content and vision as the old one. Only the date of publication and author’s name would change. It would probably include a provision to revoke citizen rights if one opposes hgdef,guarantee a life time stay on power for himself and transfer it to his closest family upon his death (soon). His talk of “dead document” is to show that there is no credible entity inside or outside the country who can meaningful check his moves when he makes such fundamental national decisions singlehandedly. It is indeed a shameful levels of arrogance he is going through.

            regards

          • Crocus

            As the adage says, “you can not wake up someone pretending to be asleep” (Awqo yetegan biqeseqisut aysema). You can always wake up those who are truly asleep. Sleep takes people out of a state of consciousness, so it is easy to wake up those who are asleep, but not those pretending to be asleep (a conscious state). Children do not understand the difference between conscious and unconscious states. Try to wake up children pretending to be asleep…

      • Derei Debas

        Poulos Natabai looks great. I admire him for faking the smile. I know he is trembling from inside. Just to appear in front of this blood thirsty dictator as an admirer is great skill. Cry my beloved country. It’s been ruled by this idiot.

        • Semere Andom

          Hi Derei:
          Trembling from inside is understatement for the tormented soul that appears in front of the vampire that DIA is. But the survival of most faker the skill that is mastered by those who are still around DIA

  • haileTG

    PFDJ Ambassador Fasil G

    “He explained that his country understands the position of the Egyptian security authorities who are warning Eritreans who are trying to escape across the border, then motivated to straight fire at them if they do not listen to those warnings, in order to provide security”

    The event:

    “EL-ARISH, Egypt, Feb 16, 2008 (AFP) – Egyptian police shot dead an Eritrean mother of two who was trying to cross the border illegally into Israel at dawn on Saturday, a security official said.
    The 37-year-old was about to cross the frontier in the central Sinai area with her daughters, aged eight and 10, when she was spotted by police, the official said.
    She was told to halt but continued trying to cross the border. Egyptian police then opened fire, hitting her in the head and killing her.”

    you’re something else!!!!

    • Gud

      What? Is that supposed to impress me now?

      Anabibaki yeariyi nebsi 🙂

      And besides, people already translated, processed and moved on, and you’r kind of slow or something?

      • haileTG

        victims never move on, till justice is served. Heard of COI?

  • Tesfabirhan WR

    Dear Awatistas,

    Happy New Year!

    Wish you success for 2015!

    Hawkum
    tes

  • saay7

    Selamat Gud:

    I already complimented you on your debating skills; so don’t let me down now by going all wobbly:

    1. The Eri opposition cannot “cooperate” with the Eri government on the case of the Eritrean refugees because it considers the government to be primarily responsible for the miserable condition the refugees are in. The Eritrean opposition believes that the Eritrean regime pursues policies–economic, political, social– that make Eritrean unlivable for Eritrean youth. In the rest of the planet, the way politics works is that those of who support a political party are in a position to influence its economic, political and social policies. The problem is that those of you who are in the “Nehna ms Mengstna” camp have no influence over the policies of the party you support and, in frustration, you blame everybody else–the CIA, the Weyane, the opposition (sorry, let me use your language: the “so-called opposition”)–for the failures of the party you support, to hide your total and complete powerlessness over the direction of its policies because it is a one-man-show.

    That is to say: the Eritrean government bears primary responsibility for the problem of Eritrean youth; you support the government; therefore, you share in that responsibility.

    2. The “so-and-so” deserted the government, or “rahrihwom kheydu” that the opposition does, as if we are in war and somebody is deserting is, I think, a problem of language. Your side also does it: “so-and-so KhediU.” When, with artists, it really is nothing more than: somebody just got tired of being used, his/her art stolen, mutilated. The point, Gud, was that Fihira singing about the danger of exile (and it was a great and moving song) cannot be something the government can use for its alibi that it cares about the youth when, in any random interview, Isaias Afwerki is either triviliazing it as a “picnic” or describing it as a lessening of a burden.

    I also agree with you that, yes, the youth are not into local media. But the message they get is that the government doesn’t care about them and doesn’t feel for their pain.

    Ah, the zero, zilch evidence. Well, Gud, let’s see if we can find the evidence using your US government-black community analogy (and it is a fine one)

    Supposing you have a missing daughter (God forbid) and you go to every hospital and every police station and every jail in Any City, USA and they tell you we don’t have her. A month later, your friendly sheriff tells you they do have her but she has committed a horrendous crime, and bail is set for $50,000, but don’t worry, she is like my daughter, says the sherif. At this point, the government (through Mr. Friendly Sherif) has established responsibility: she is alive and we have her. (The legal types call this “chain of custody”, I think.) After you scramble to raise the money and come back, some Unfriendly Sherif tells you, yes we have her and she is dead. And she has been dead for 3 months. It is her and 10 others. He doesn’t tell you HOW she died, WHEN she died, WHERE she died: he just says we have her body, pick it up.

    Now, Gud, take this analogy to any friend in the black community and see what he says.

    saay

  • Hayat Adem

    Nitricc: “…What amazes me is how easily PIA can change things around. Free the prisoners! There is no point holding
    them without due process. Go back to the 18 months national military service. Come up with workable plane for the students didn’t make the points. Set date for the constitution. Open up the market…”
    Sal: “Selamat Nitricc: Agreed. Morality 101: When someone tells hard truth to people in power, specially powerful people he respects, it’s called telling truth to power and the person who does it is a truth-teller…This is why Nitricc is a truth-teller.”
    Hayat: This getting funny bordering foolishness. Nobody will be surprised to see Nitricc in this situation as he is just that by own admission and neutral diagnosis. But the endorser?!!! The truth is it not easy for PIA/DIA to make any change now. There was time he could. Not now. He is no more in control of any change. Change means he will have to answer for his crimes, for EraEiro, for the wars, for his crimes in ghedli… He has no answers. The damages of his crimes are unredressable. Regretting will not do it. That will not be enough for some of the pains on the victim’s side. You don’t respect a soaked criminal even if he is in power. The legitimacy for recognizing that power is inversely proportional with the level crimes he has been irrationally inflicting on everyone and on the national dreams. Even if you have a weird plan called a democratic coup and reforming the criminal regime, you don’t respect them if they are killing you and your nation.
    Now, DIA has to fight for his life while in power in the same way criminals do. He can not be part of a change unless we are not told basic natural laws are all compromised. He should be expected to stand against any little change as any little opening of such trend will awash him out. In other words, change is inevitable and he can’t stop it but obviously he will try to slow it and every day gained by him in slowing change is a slow death for him. Unfortunately, there are dangers to the people as well as to the nation that comes with the slow death of his regime. Sal, shiTara asmara (Morality 101) ab khaliE eAdi eEdaga Dileyelu!
    Hayat

  • haileTG

    You still don’t get it because your politics so determined by the interest of the regime holding power than the nation. We have the oldest Mosque in Africa and Christianity dating back to millenia. No one needs cash on such old truth. We can dictate a relationship with all our neighbours in ways that respects all of us, be it Moslem or Christian. Didn’t the regime went bizerk accusing Italy of causing Lampedusa by deliberately delaying assistance? Now, why not Egypt for not intervining in Sinai or Sudan for not curbing security breachs of refugee camps? It is a client regime and can’t criticize the hand that is throwing its daily crumbs to live on.

    • Gud

      Go ahead finish up all the usual : 9, no I mean 99, by that I mean 9999, acrobatics . Just don’t forget to tell what the heck this is: “….half of our population is not abid” is.

      No one will miss what and who you mean by that, but hey…..

      • haileTG

        Let me help in case some have reading issue “….half of our population is not abid” there. It wasn’t much trouble…seriously

    • hope

      Haile TG:
      But on the same token,do NOT underestimate the power of IA on Al Bashir as well,who controlled kessela in an hr at one time as a retaliation to Bashir allowing Weyanes to sneak into Tessenei and attack our EDF causing the worst casuality in our History; and could do so to khartoum,.and give the Power to his Puppet Agents in Khartoum.,if we have to argue, for the sake of arguement.
      But,from practical point of view and politically speaking,as Fenomino said it correctly,the Refugees in question are “defectors and Traitors” from the PIA’s point of view.–all included,the Lampadusa,the Sini,the The worst,as Sem A speculated ‘irrationally”,,the Rashaida Sahara Desert ,the karora,etc,..victims,Tribes,who were involved in the mayhem of the poor Refugees,could be IA’s Agents as well….for whatever reason,as some of us claimed that the The Beduin Organ Harvesters were also PFDJ Agents or collaborators,when ,in fact,we have known fully that some Jewish Traders have been the culprits and the major Investors on the Organ Harvesting..
      Eventhough belatedly,besides accusing the Italian Gov legitimately:
      -PIA also protested to the Egyptian Gov as well and forced the Gov to raid the Beduin Kidnappers at Sinai Desert.
      -PIA also forced Khartoum to pass a law for death penalty of those Conspirators of the Human Traffickers
      Here is the Hypocrisy:
      -Why didn’t we here,the Cyper Politicinas and Cyber Human Rights Activists,have NOT,as of yet ,accuse the EU and the italian Gov for their negligence about the Lampadusa Tragedy and even about the victims of the EU Missile at the heart of the Mediteranean Sea?
      -The Shegereb Incident is NOT new but a daily and routine one,so why didn’t we appeal to the Khartoum Gov and the UNHCR?
      -Why didn’t we accuse the TPLF Gov about the horror of the Shimelba incident?
      -Why didn’t we do something about the plight of the Eritreans in the Jewish Camps..???..

      • Saleh Johar

        Dear Hope,

        You claimed, “PIA also protested to the Egyptian Gov as well and forced the Gov to raid the Beduin Kidnappers at Sinai Desert.”

        Can you please support your claim by presenting an evidence? Or, you are just saying that?

        • Hope

          Ustaz Saleh:
          -Here is what I know, eventhough it was/is the job of the “Reporting Plus” Team to investigate things and do the reporting:
          -The Eritrean Delegation was shuttling back and forth to Cairo and was meeting with the Egyptian Authorities and the news indicated that both parties have discussed in detail about the “‘Human Trafficking” and Security of both Nations.
          -Then followed the Raid of the Beduin Torture Camps at the Sinai Desert by the Egyptian Army and is still going on.
          -The same thing happened with the Sudanese Government and the Sudanese Gov passed the Law of Death Penalty to/for those Human Traffickers
          -To your dislike or surprise,PIA gave an extensive clarificaton and confirmation on this aspect during one of his last Interviews.
          Now,wether this action/measure is for PR Gimmick /Shedding of Crocodile Tears after the SMG exposed things or done genuinely,that is none of my business.
          Here is another Hypocrisy:
          You did not ask me or challenge me about the UNHCR accusation or about the Sudanese measure.
          is that coz you agreed with me and/or you admitt that the GoE did indeed persuade the Sudanese Gov and that the GoE legitimately and publically accused the UNHCR?

        • saay7

          Abu Salah:

          Cousin Hope has a great imagination. I don’t know when is it that “PIA also protested to the Egyptian government” (Cousin is not good at giving sources: he uses the “Welahi, trust me!” methodology of documenation) because all I remember is when Eritreans were protesting Egypt’s ill-treatment of Eritrean refugees (March 21, 2010), Eritrea’s ambassador to Egypt (Fasil Gebreselasse) was telling Egyptian media (Al Masr Al Yowm): don’t feel any guilt at all because a refugee has no right at all.

          Source: Al Masr Al Youm: March 21, 2010

          Link: http://wayback.archive.org/web/20130304043413/http:/www.almasry-alyoum.com/article2.aspx?ArticleID=248359&IssueID=1719

          saay

          • haileTG

            oh..my oh my..holly molly… don’t know what to say saay. Still translating and re-translating my page hoping that I am not reading what I am reading!!! He actually expressed support to the actions of the security forces!!! I thought you were linking one article that was featured here where a hgdef emissary was wielding a stick at protesters, this really surprised the hell out of me!

          • saay7

            Hailat the Great:

            You don’t have to translate the piece; your Awate Team did it in 2010. I will find it. And yes it’s as bad as u think.

            saay

      • haileTG

        Hope, it wasn’t a question for ERiTV hateta. IA can’t do that realistically and only inside the fantasy movie production of ERiTV. So, save it for now as more will be coming from the horse’s mouth tomorrow.

        The point is about cultivating healthy relationship between Eritrea and all her neighbors, far and near. You think Sudan is helping IA and undermining its opposition because the latter wields so much power over it!! And ALL of Eritrea precariously depends for its lifeline on Sudan and the latter really doesn’t need anything worth mentioning from us!! Can you please stop thinking about Bisha and Potash while reading about Eritrean tragedy? I don’t know how much share you’ve gotten but your eyes seem hopelessly fixated on them. Even those who bought bonds and houses from the PFDJ are let to sleep crying to their pillow, think where your brothers are not where Pottash is or Bisha gold is.

        • Hope

          Sir,
          Listen!
          TesfaNews also reported the Shimelba,the Lampadusa,and other related Tragedies.
          What is your point?I guess you ran out of propaganda.these days.
          It looks like you are dreaming for another Lampadusa or Shegereb incident,God forbid,to sell/do some cheap propaganda.

          • haileTG

            hope

            No propaganda here. The call is to the opposition to work for strict implementation of UN Res. 1907, and call for a UN patrol unit be deployed along Sudanese Eritrean border. Material evidence exists as per previous and on going investigations that the region is used to violate UN Chapter vii directives on destabilization as well as human rights violations. The border needs to come under direct UN supervision, since the Sudanese govt. and its stick poking leader have taken a stand against the interest of Eritreans and regional peace.

    • Hope

      Edited(Moderator,please be so kind to delete the previous comment)
      Haile TG:
      But on the same token,do NOT underestimate the power of IA on Al Bashir as well who(The EDF) controlled kessela in an hr at one time as a retaliation to Bashir allowing Weyanes to sneak into Tessenei and attack our EDF causing the worst casuality in our history; and could do so the same to khartoum, and give the Power to his Puppet Agents in Khartoum.,if we have to argue for the sake of arguement.
      But,from practical point of view and politically speaking,as Fenomino said it correctly,the Refugees in question are “Defectors,Thieves and Traitors” from PIA’s point of view,all included,the Lampadusa,the Sini and the Sahara Deserts,the Karora,the Shimelba,etc.., victims.
      And,the the worst,as Sem Andom speculated ‘irrationally”,the Rashaida Tribes,who were involved in the mayhem of the poor Refugees,could be IA’s Agents as well,for whatever reason,as some of us claimed that the The Beduin Organ Harvesters were also PFDJ Agents or collaborators,when ,in fact,we have known fully that some Jewish Traders have been the culprits and the major Investors on the Organ Harvesting..
      Eventhough belatedly,besides accusing the Italian Gov legitimately:
      -PIA also protested to the Egyptian Gov as well and forced the Gov to raid the Beduin Kidnappers at Sinai Desert.
      -PIA also forced Khartoum to pass a law for death penalty of those Conspirators of the Human Traffickers.
      -PIA/the PFDJ/GoE accused openly and directly the UNHCR based on facts.
      But here is the Hypocrisy of hypocrisies though:
      -Why didn’t we here,the Cyper Politicinas and Cyber Human Rights Activists,have NOT,as of yet ,accuse the EU and the Italian Gov for their negligence about the Lampadusa Tragedy and even about the victims of the EU Missile at the heart of the Mediteranean Sea?
      -The Shegereb Incident is NOT new but a daily and routine one,so why didn’t we appeal to the Khartoum Gov and the UNHCR?
      -Why didn’t we accuse the TPLF Gov about the horror of the Shimelba incident?
      -Why didn’t we do something about the plight of the Eritreans in the Jewish Camps..???..

  • saay7

    Selamat Gud:

    Was it? I actually think of it in a much bigger Oppo vs Regime…but let’s play your challenge too if you want to narrow it to awate.com.

    It is hard to convert someone from a pro-regime to pro-opposition when:

    Your government and the entire infrastructure tells you guys to stay away from awate.com and the other “teSabaeti” and your side, like sheep, listen to the shepherd;

    Your kiddie websites are essentially echo chambers who talk to themselves all day.

    Given that, can you give me a single example of a pro-opposition individual who went over to the “winning” side. (Still laughing at winning: so that’s what you guys call it:)

    saay

    • saay7

      Gud:

      This dude also thought he was on the “winning side”

      Saay

      http://youtu.be/9QS0q3mGPGg

      • Gud

        Two and half men with Charlie Sheen in it is the mother of all comedies

        The new cyst?…..not so much

    • Gud

      SAAY,

      Yes it was. Scrolling up, you will find some guy saying ” I invested on Nitricc, he is in the bag now, sorta and now moving on to a very bad investment, Gud ” but what do I know, I need to pass that through the shepherd first.

      Let us see: with the Eritrean people on its side, successfully brought independence, successfully performed historical referendum, successfully outlined its program, fought its enemy and its detractors, in power for 23 years, still have the support of the Eritrean people. Now, wouldn’t you call that a winner? Compare that to the other. Fought for Eritrean independence till 1981. Ummm, what ? That is it, full stop!

  • haileTG

    No, but fares well because of no fault of theirs but lopsided treatment for them. Read the article above again why some refugees are being exposed. Who are you to defend the Moslem population anyway? Eritrea is the whole thing two faith and multi ethnic. Defend all or none.

  • haileTG

    Dear Pencil,

    The opposition groups could do well by developing support mechanisms to mitigate the sufferings of the affected refugees. In reality, there are no financially feasible ways for any opposition group to throw a security ring to safeguard the well being of refugees numbering in their hundreds of thousands. However, there are practical steps that can be taken which would empower the refugees themselves to defend themselves. These include (but not limited to) information dissemination, victim support, strengthening the work of NGOs already engaged in that area and facilitating help for the more desperate groups.

    The Eritrean regime can’t help these people because they are seeking refuge from it. Again, the Eritrean regime leadership are sell outs running a client state for the middle eastern dirty politics. Although, geographically and historically, Eritrea has a strategic location to chart a mutually beneficial relationship with all its neighboring countries in Africa and the middle east, the regime of IA has sold the country cheap to become an Arab abid. The regime blockaded normal economic activity inside the country for the population because its revenue loss can be off set by its handlers such as Qatar, Iran and Egypt. These countries have no respect to the Eritrean people nor their traditional ways of life. Eritrea has the most harmonious religions of Islam and Christianity that span centuries. Its people always lived in peace with one another. Unfortunately, the client regime has sold the country’s well being and immaculate past to these predators. They sent us terrorists, they reduced our country into illegal arms transfer point to Al Qaida linked groups, human trafficking, sanctions and total isolation from the world community. At one point, when the Eritrean sanction was being renewed, Qatar was the chairman of the UNSC, it also regularly supported the slapping of sanctions on the regime that it also finances backhandedly. Why does Qatar bend backwards to help Djibouti in its conflict with IA (their Abid) and has nothing for the Eritrean people’s other problems? Sudan is doing everything to write a dark history with the Eritrean people. From killing, kidnapping and jailing of Eritrean opposition to opening a contraband life line to the client regime, it is fully aligned with the enemies of Eritreans. Why? We can’t say dictators cover dictators because they didn’t do that with Mengistu Hailemariam.

    Ethiopia is one example in maintaining respectful relationship with the middle eastern countries. When the Qatari stepped out of line, it slapped them right there and then and kicked them out packing. Now, they bowed down and returned having swore to respect their nation. It also taught a lesson to Egypt and they seem to chose to respect and not mess around with the country. This needs to be a model for our future relationship. We are a multi faith nation and those countries in the middle eastern nations need to be firmly told half of our population isn’t an abid nor do we wish to be the backwater of their dirty politics. Sometimes you need to disconnect in order to re-connect meaningfully. And, if they mess about we’ll need to shut them out. The way IA sold himself body and soul to these nations will be a threat to the existence of Eritrea. If a country deals with our moslem citizens one way and christian citizens another way, we need the courage to say get lost majnoon!

    In the honor of the much awaited IA the Abid interview, here is a the intro… Boudini Camp bellydance 🙂

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_EXKRAs8L0

    Happy New Year All!

    • Nitricc

      ”Ethiopia is one example in maintaining respectful relationship with the middle eastern countries. When the Qatari stepped out of line, it slapped them right there and then and kicked them out packing.”

      wow, slow down Haile. how many teenage girls leave from Ethiopia to Arab to go to Arab country per month?
      how are teenage girls treated by the Arabs?
      how many girls are working for free, sexually abused, thrown from high buildings per a month.
      how did the Ethiopian governmnet did or doing to protect its citizens from the Arabs crime against the Ethiopians.
      the above is my challenge to you. And if there is honest Ethiopian left, with shred of courage and dignity they ought to challenge you for the outrageous comment you made.

      • haileTG

        Hi Nitricc,

        http://www.presstv.com/detail/2013/11/11/334080/ethiopia-condemns-saudi-crackdown/

        Now you get me a single matching reaction fro the client regime on any of the treatment of Eritreans in Sinai and other places.

      • Deogane

        Mr./Mrs. Nitricc,
        I chose this song by the Eagles for you. Hotel California. It seems your situation is “You can get in , you can’t get out”. May be haile TG prefer Desperado by the same band is fitting. Talk to me after listening both.

    • Abinet

      Haile The Great
      Yagachal kemeret
      The stinking Arab countries you mentioned sponsored your struggle for independence. They invested a lot in training , arming, … your former and current leaders . Now they feel entitled to own you and your destiny. They have no respect for the people of eritrea and its leadership.
      ” balebetun kalnaqu aTrun ayneqeniqu ”
      Now go easy on me .
      Happy new year.

      • Abinet

        Haylachin
        I got one more Amharic proverb just for you . I promise it is my last for the year.
        ” habtam mehayim yedihoch feTari yehone yimeslewal”
        Believe me it fits the stinking Arabs .

      • haileTG

        Abi Happy New Year to you too

        1) What they did in/for ghedli is out of my reach knowledgewise. Those who were there say the help you mention wasn’t significant. So, I will settle to their account till I know better.

        2) Our unhealthy r/nship is our making. The same happened with Ethiopia when your govt was acting like the current Sudanese regime towards the PFDJ in the 90s. Unhealthy r/nships always implode and the people will pay dearly. Ahealthy r/nship on the other hand is a legacy to be sustained for generations.

        Our middle east r/nship is now, with some, very unhealthy , and is likely to implode. Your Arab hate, Eri hate, cooperation hate is also another unhealthy way to relate to others. In Eritrea, we are talking Geo-politics and trying to warm the oppo to talk about it, because they never have the courage to talk Eritrea’s challenges despite seeking to form the next government. IA is a client for some middle eastern power politics that doesn’t concern us and in no position to represent us all or any of us. These are legitmate questions and not necesitated by habesha/arab thing you guys like to indulge in.

        regards

        • Abinet

          Haile TG
          You said one thing right.
          I don’t have enough words to express my hate towards the stinking Arabs . I HATE them all. There is no denying it and I’m not ashamed of it either. Eri hate is what you think of me . It is your opinion .

          Gud
          There is a big difference b/n Arab and Muslim . Don’t confuse them to win a debate .

          • haileTG

            Selam Abi,

            We might be missing each other on terminologies. In my understanding an arab country is one that is member of the League of Arab Nations. When I say middle eastern powers, it includes the historical power brokers in the middle east such as Israel, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Iran and others. All these countries are currently engaged in an unhealthy relationship with Eritrea and only treating its leadership as client for their regional politics. Sudan is different because it borders one section of our country and hence the best we could do is to force it to correct its ways. We can’t threaten to shut it off because such would also impact our citizens. With the others, Eritrea can dispense with and hence we need to insist our foreign policy is rooted on reciprocal respect to each other’s reality and composition.

            Now that you expressed certain dislike of what you call “Arabs”, who is an Arab to you? Djibouti is an Arab nation for instance, and your country’s strategic relationship with Djibouti would be jeopardized if they reciprocate in kind. Above all, your country wishes integration with Djibouti (an Arab nation) and you seem to be happy with that. Can you explain?

          • Abinet

            Haile TG
            When I call the stinking Arabs I mean each and every Arab nation , which , in one way or an other, contributed in my proples’ misery for 30+ years .
            Djibouti and my favorite Israel is out of the equation .
            What is interesting to watch is some of them are getting what they deserve . Am I sad for them? No. I have been sad for 30+ years.
            You can sympathize and defend them. Not me my friend, not me.

          • haileTG

            Hi Abi,

            Except for Kenya, ALL of your neighboring countries are either full members or observer states of the League of Arab nations. So, we need to be clear what criteria you use to distinguish between “good Arab” Vs “bad Arab”?

          • Abinet

            Haile TG
            I know your country is an observer to the league. I see your president as an office boy not as an observer .
            I have already told you what I mean by bad Arab . A good Arab ? I am desperate to find one nation which is not conspiring against my people.

          • House of Stark

            Hi Haile TG
            First off all,happy new year to you and your family.

            Haile TG, You know very well there is big difference between being an Arab nation and Arab league member. Djibouti is not an Arab nation. To my knowledge never had or have an aspiration to be one as well.

          • haileTG

            Hi HS

            Happy New Year to you and family too.

            So, who is Arab? I have rough sketch by organization. Middle Eastern includes all nations from Israel to Iran, so how should we define Arab? Not saying only the 21 states are, but those are organized as such. So, why is Djibouti organized as one?

          • House of Stark

            Hi Haile TG
            Hiale TG, you are way to smart for that. You know very well Israel and Iran are not Arabs, They are called Jewish and Persian respectively. As to Djibouti and Somalia they joined for economic reason but, the Arabs had hidden agenda. They wanted to encircle Ethiopia, especially Egypt and Saudi Arabia.The Somali’s government and some Somali’s intellectual elites fell for it, look where they are now. We the Ethiopian and the African are doing the hard job to bring Somalia back to life, so that the Somali’s people at minimum can live in peace, with them selves and there neighbors. Haile TG tell me, how much money are the Saudis and Qataris dolling out to Egypt?, and to Somalia?. No insult intended to you but do you believe that an Egyptian and a Somali will get the some treatment in Saudi, Qatar, Oman, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq,Jordan, Kuwait, or U.A.E.

          • haileTG

            Dear HS,

            You lost me there:

            Israel and Iran are middle Eastern Countries

            Those in Arab Legue may be defined as such as per their self identification.

            Dominant mid east power brokers may include countries in or out of the Arab organization.

            How did I end up sounding as saying Israel is Arab? Actually, that is the very question I am asking, who is Arab? Wealthy middle eastern oil producer? Country X Y Z? My simple topography is organizational attribute, but cant be complete. So, you have missed my point, I think. Is Israel mid east? If so, we are in agreement there. Is it Arab? Not officially. So, what is the criterea for Arabness? Does Iran conspire as per Abi’s accusations? If so, would that make it Arab? Could you tell us who is Arab than who isn’t? Again, can an Ethio Jew be treated the same as Russian Jew in Israel? Poverty is a different devaluative attribute in human relationships. So is skin color, gender…

            Regards

          • Crocus

            Dear Haile”

            The Arabs themselves say that an Arab is one who spoke Arabic. But that is a linguistic, rather than an ethnic definition. Having said that, you must know Israelis are not all Arabs, as many of them speak Hebrew and 80% of them are of Slavic origin (Ashkenazie Jews), and a small minority of them (Bete Israel) Ethiopians. Persians are Farsi , and they, as well as Turks, have never been lumped with Arabs. Djibouti, Sudanese, and Somalians are not Arabs as such. The Arab League is just a political organization with a fixed agenda, It is always glad to collect more members, even if they are not traditional Arabs. Is Eritrea Arab? What is its status with the Arab League?

          • Saleh Johar

            Crocus, Arab is of two types: 1) Areb Al Aariba and 2) Areb Am mustaEriba. Arabs by race and Arabized people. Most Arabs of today are Arab Aariba, like many North Africans and many Sudanese. In our region, many do not differentiate between the two. The Arab League is a political entity, just like the African Union–we cannot say Africans belong to the same race, but happen to live in one distinct land mass.

            In Israel, the Bete Israel hardly register in the population because they are a small minority. But you have Yemenis, Iraqis, Moroccans, Tunisians, most of whom are originally Arab jews. The current prime minister is of Moroccan ancestry.

            Add to that, the original inhabitants of Palestine who are Arabs. Even in Israel proper, there are Israeli-Arabs.

            Turkey has a large Arab population in Iskanderon district.

            In Eritrea, there are tribes that claim Arab ancestry though they have adopted local languages beside Arabic as a dormant language in their culture.

            There is a question that amuses me: what were your ancestors a few hundred years or a few generation back? People can claim anything, but in a society that doesn’t record its birth and death and other personal details, with no culture of recording, hardly anyone knows where his original blood is from. We just boast based on our current adopted or perceived identity, always bragging about our pedigree. See! We are still in the feudal age 🙂 I think a DNA test would change the opinion and self-perception of many people.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Mr. Johar,
            .
            I think sometimes you stretch a little too far to prove a point. We don’t need to go to DNA testing to prove your belief that there is an Arab blood in all our regions peoples. DNA can certainly prove that we as human beings are practically twins with chimpanzees. No one is denying that there is a family resemblance among the peoples of the region.
            .
            Just like Eritrea believes it is a nation in its own right, separate and equal, we Habeshas want to preserve ourselves as separate and equal cultural entity in our own rights.
            .
            It is something we define ourselves with. It helps us to combat the imperialists of various types to put us in our place. We are not and will not be subservient to any type of imperialists. I hope you believe in that and as a Habessha member you stand with us.
            .
            I want to take time here to wish you and yours and Mr. SAAY and his family, a happy new year. Along with that I also want to thank you both for the past year of providing us with admirable forum to learn and to discuss the issues of our region and beyond.
            .
            K.H

          • Saleh Johar

            Happy New Year Kim Hanna,
            You think that I stretch (your wrong perception) but you ended up stretching my simple comment. I was trying (unseccessfully it appears) to appeal to people here to refrain from racist remarks. By the DNA, I was hinting that we all might end up belonging very far from where we claim to have belonged for a guessed long number of years. For example, Abinet’s DNA might be from Mecca (easy Abinet 🙂 Nitricc’s DNA could be from Adi Grat. Mine could be from Persia or India, your DNA might be traced from Greek.

            Just imagine: centuries ago, there was no psychological barrier between the Arabian peninsula and the Axumite kingdom. Strong trade, social, political and military relations were very strong. When general Napier invaded Meqdela, he came with tens of thousands of soldiers from everywhere East of the Red Sea, as far as Burma. Imagine what soldiers do when they swarm a country, particularly when the small population, a few million at the time, is overwhelmed by a huge army. Given the population growth, if they had a few dozen offspring, imagine how many they are now? In Gonder, until recently, there were a number of people who trace their ancestry to the visiting Europeans, now they are absorbed in the society. In the Red Sea, the gate way to the region, thousands and thousands of people crossed and lived in that area, how many people can trace their ancestry to those people, including slaves who passed through there? But you do not find a single person admitting a slave ancestry due to the taboo and social prejudice of judging people from their pedigree. It was my attempt to demolish this empty pride and racism as if one person is better than the other based on ancestry.

            My friend, whether you like it or not, whether you accept it or not, there are enough people who claim Arab ancestry and I do not need to stretch that because there is no reason for that.

            Also, as someone I know would say, benatiem Abesha babatiem Abesha, and I do not need to join anyone to prove that. Your invitation to “stand with us” is a bit paternalistic. Do you have the key to the door from where I join? Then why don’t you join me in erasing this creeping sense of supremacy and feeling of special breed. Please join me as a humble Habesha who doesn’t feel superior to anyone and who doesn’t need racism to preserve his identity!

            You know Kim, I live in the Middle East for a long time. I have met Arab supremacists who tried to talk to me condescendingly, that I am a lesser Muslim. I had an answer that shut them up: I was Muslim when your ancestors were chasing the prophet from his own town, Mecca. I do not accept anyone claiming more stake than me on religion and I do not accept anyone who claims more stake on Abyssinian identity than me. See! In a nutshell, that is what I wanted to say.

            HAPPY NEW YEAR to you and all Awatistas

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Mr. Johar,
            .
            I see. Therefore in a nutshell I would leave the above exchange stand on its own fours.
            After all this is the dawn of 2015.
            .
            Thanks,
            .
            K.H

          • Crocus

            Dear SJ:
            I have no say on what people want to believe. What you said in your last
            statement puts everyone in the same page. It gives a true picture. I have
            looked at published genetic studies of our region and others like the Sudan and Saudi Arabia, and we have a clearer picture, thanks to DNA studies. Saudi’s cluster in no less than 9 DNA Chromosomes. Ethiopians cluster into 4 old Y-chromosome DNA haplotypes. Most are in haplotype E1b1b (about 58%). Other notable ones are haplotype J1 (18%), haplotype A (18%), haplotype T (5%). They all are very old. E1b1b = 22,500 ybp; J1 = 30,000 ybp; A (Adam) = 140,000 ybp; and T = 30,000. Genetics found no gene flow from Arabia.

            Arabia has a haplotype J as well but the P-58 strain found in Ethiopia is much older (as are those found in Egypt and Lebanon) than the strain found in Arabia, which ruled out any gene flow from across the Red Sea. (They were looking forward to find a genetic link, but, alas, zilch!) See link below under “Genetic Studies”.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_of_Ethiopia

            There are a number of studies on Saudis. Arabia shows gene flows from Africa (Haplotypes A, B, and E), and others from the East. (The origin of Saudi Arabia’s largest DNA group, J1, is still inconclusive, though the Levant is a prime candidate.)

            http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2009/09/y-chromosomes-of-saudi-arabia.html

            Khartoum (unlike other parts of Sudan) has an extra ordinary concentration of haplotype J1. >80% of Somalis are in a sub-clade of E1b1b.

          • Guest

            Abinet don,t be fool, the worst enemy of ethiopia ever is highlanders Eritrean just like haile. Don,t hate Arabs, even if arab hate us (they don,t) they have a reason like Nile .

          • Abinet

            Guest
            I never played “Jesus ” I am so weak to love my enemies. If the eritrean highlanders hate us, it is because they are brainwashed by their Arab handlers. And look what they got in return. They are in the verge of extinction . However, I believe they are the means not the cause of the long suffering we have been through.

          • Guest

            1st, the Eritreans are the one blackmailing ethiopia for arab nations from the begning.
            2nd, the previous regimes of ethiopia use arab nations to creat unity between ethiopia and eritrea. They didn,t went to blame eri people and prefer to divert the blame to the Arabs in order not to harem the unity of ethiopa. Instead of blaming the cause.
            3rd,eritrea are the cause of the long suffering we have been through not Arabs they are just using the eri hate to ethio as apportunity to monopolize the Nile

          • Deogane

            This is not true. In the 60s and before Majority of people from Bahir Melash( Midre Bahiri) used to celebrate their Ethiopian identity in occasions such as marriage and even death. The Ethiopian flag was behind the married couples in most marriage ceremonies. In death the coffin used to be covered with the green yellow and red flag. Eritreans were proud Ethiopians.
            Starting early seventies the region as whole changed.
            The kingdom of Saudi Arabia , which came in to life in early fifties became an important state because of the petroleum. The gulf were tiny fishermen and Bedouin villages became metropolitan for the same reason.
            Ethiopia fell under the worst leadership in its history.Add to this the famine and war with Somalia. Then many started to see north as alternative. For many identity lost relevance. It was just not smart to cling to it. It was not a good business.

      • Gud

        While you are worming up to your Arab hate with HaileTDD’s hate for our Moslim community (those he labels as Arab abid), don’t you forget one thing: the worst and number one enemy of Eritrea and Eritreans ever is , your Woyanie government. The main source of everything evil happening to Eritrea, the core of it all is your woyanie.

        Don’t you forget that

        • Nitricc

          Gud, take it easy on Abinet, don’t blame him for hating the Arabs. The Arabs keep taking their girls. The Arabs take the best what they produce and even the Arabs took a fertile land in Ethiopia. So, I understand Abinet’s hate toward the Arabs. Even more bad news to Abinet is the Arabs will be their boss once we lease Assab to the Arabs. lol

          • Abinet

            The Arabs are taking your body parts as well to use it as spare part.that is one more good reason to HATE them . They are less human more wild beasts.

      • Hameed Al-Arabi

        You are hardly beaten by inferiority complex.

  • Hope

    Dude,
    Comment on the issues the GoE could have done to improve things.
    “Simple Policy modifications on The Economy,the Education,and the National Service issues could have minimized the problems”.
    You are rather inkilalo and avoiding unavoidable things

  • Fenomeno

    This situation with Eritrean refugees in Sudan, which has been around for a long time, is extremely sad. Off course all Eritrean groups, armed or not, should take efforts to change this situation.

    The idea of having Eritrea armed opposition groups defend these refugees sounds good in theory. Eritreans are getting attacked in the neighborhood, so go defend them! However, I believe that it is unrealistic to happen in the near future. Rashaida, on both sides of the border, are committing these atrocities in cooperation with both the Sudanese and Eritrean government/security forces. It is really naive to believe, that Rashaida would be able to traffic and kidnap people, without consent of both these “governments”. Both governments and the Rashaida are benefiting from the status-quo.

    Next to that, there is no armed Eritrean opposition, in either Sudan or Ethiopia, that seems to have the capability to just move, to these refugee camps and guard them. Even if they would have the military resources, then they would still need consent of the Sudanese government to engage in such operations. For the Sudanese there is no reason to grant permission for such actions on the moment. For Eritrean opposition to engage in military actions without consent of the Sudanese, would be suicidal, as they lack in everything (military capabilities, leadership, unity, diplomatic relations, etc..).

    So unless there is a shift in Sudan-Eritrea relations, which seems unlikely on the short term (but never impossible with IA) , one can, unfortunately, not expect Eritrean opposition groups to guard these refugees.

  • AOsman

    AT,

    It is timely to push for ELF and any other group present in Eastern Sudan to show some teeth, however, as long as the opposition (armed wing) remain out of Eritrean soil, it will be difficult to defend the refugees. There is no fall back, in case things escalate and go out of control.

    A serious warning by ENDC or an armed group should be sent to the nazir of Rashaida, Sheikh Ahmed Humaid Al Barki. He needs to be forewarned that the criminal activity of his tribesmen is bound to bite back and leave other Rashaida members living in Eritrea exposed.

    Regards

    AOsman

  • Semere Andom

    New Year Resolution for some notable Awatistas
    MaHmuday:
    To be humbled by the award forever and figure out my bad friend Semere’s enigma: Who came first, EPLF or PFDJ

    Hope:
    To renew my covenant to double my 2% remittance as I have independently formulated that this is the only way to both defend and democratize Eritea. Study DNA science to locate all my half and full COUSINS and tell them the breaking news about the rule of return to Keren and Mansura. Sneak into Ethiopia once a while.

    NItricc:
    After breaking the ground for “Hidmoay” I pledge to dedicate my life and channel my energy to solve the following prolbem there by shaming those who thought it was intractable problem for the Nitricc.

    I imagine a pond in Sawa. If I, as a future military administrator of Sawa sow some lilly frowers in the pond when my grand kids are servingf in hager “Limat” and the lillies double every day and it takes 18 month to completely cover the pond, on what day will the lillies cover half the pond? Armed with the insights from this solution, I will apply the same law/principle for the exponetial growth of my brain cells. This is pride to my dua mentors and shame to my detractors from Dedebit

    Sal:
    Nothing! Sell my shares in Nitriccoids inc and write my memoir titlled: Been here, I am here, I will be here.

    Amanuel Hidat:
    Formualte the universal chemical equation to once for all to predict and identify the diffeence between a system and one man show.

    • Hope

      Cousin Sem,
      Definition of a Cousin:
      -Principled,Independent Thinker,Truthful….DNA Science has NO role in IDing these qualities…You have to earn them,Lol!
      If the rule is returned to Keren but Keren,by now,all our problems could have been solved over night…You know why?Let me be a “regionalist” for a moment.
      Keren and kerenites are:
      -Brutally Independent Thinkers(Hint: SJG)–SAAY and Ali Abdu have the Kerenite blood too.
      -Truthful
      -“Justful”
      -Principled
      -believe in Equality–no discrimination,in its any form!(Keren ad meshakin’ta,Islemayu we kistenayu misl ‘nibir embel akeymekrih….(Al’Amin Abduletif–SAAY and Mahmouday-correct the song and the lyrics and upload the music,please).
      On a serious note,I have never been to Ethiopia since Dec 1993..lol but I wish I could as I love Ethiopia and Ethiopians—provided Rahwit et al bless me with an Entry Visa..as she threatened me that she will be at Bole Airport security check point as of February…..

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Hi Sem,
      You want me to collide again with Sal. Anyway you read it my mind. I am collecting my thoughts to compile it in an article form all my comments from here and there on the issue of “dictator and its system”. Just for the record.

      Amanuel Hidrat

      • Semere Andom

        Hi Emma
        That was to make you salivate to do so, if not in a chemical equation in an article:-)
        Happy 2015

    • saay7

      Selamat iSem:

      I noticed that lots of people are missing from your list of notable awatistas new year resolutions. Where’s Haile TG, Dr. Sarah, Serray, Ghezae, Beyan, Tzigerereda, and SGJ of course. Where is, for that matter, Semere Andom?

      Semere Andom: To decide to use either “manka” or “eidka” so that, for example, Haile Derue doesn’t appear as a heroic figure in one posting and a member of the “Alliance of Killers” in another post. To let the ELF-EPLF discussions close for good. To recognize that some problems Eritreans have have nothing to do with Ghedli or even the horrendous IA regime.

      Shares of nitriccoids inc were sold to Mahmuday, btw, in 2014:) I am now investing in Gud shares:)) I don’t always invest, I sell shares sometimes: I have sold shares in two Awatistas this year. Because:

      saay

      http://youtu.be/5Weaop_aiTg

      • Eyob Medhane

        Sal,

        Dang! I hope I am not one of them… 🙂

      • Semere Andom

        Hi Sal
        Well, it is of some notable awatistas, but it would be fun to do all in your list. Emma is there:-)
        Well about isem Andom, I hope you understood him as he is half Italian so that it s why some time she uses his hands and when his Itlaian personality kicks in he opts for La Manka:-)
        Seriously though, I never referred to DeruE in “iSemly”: He was a member of the alliance, he is a member of the group who used the excuse of the mice for the sake of the “megog”. And however late, however small I believe he redeemed himself and cleansed himself. You and I actually had this debated indirectly about Mesfin Hagos and I said that something along the lines:what the G-15 finally did should not go unrewarded and their role in the alliance of killers (not all G-15 for sure)should be just considered as the cost of doing business (the business being in this case Ghedli).
        Not all our problems are related to IA regime: how long did your live in Rome, your are using la manka
        Well, our problems are many including the lack of rain and no one in his right mind will attribute that to the regime. But “itom fruyat” problems of our epoch are because of the IA regime.
        “nzereba zereba yemtsio nhamed dima dugri yemtso yblu abotatka”, it works the same way, if you delineate the fine line between the head and the body of PFDJ I believe that you can do the same delineation even with more clarity for example between the vets in the Kramer tapes and what their creation ended up to be, to be consistent if you want to differentiate between the PFDJ as the head and the body you can do the same between the founding principles of Ghedli and its result.
        The Kramer tapes killed both the unionist and romantics: both those who said that the founding fathers did not know what they were doing, or they set out to create new identity. From the introductory remarks to every village who spoke showed clarity and the goals of the Ghedli and it also did not spare romantics who miniaturized Ghedli to merely a territory liberating movement. The neo-unionist and the romantics have an intersection point.
        iSem’s cheat sheet for iSal:-)
        Ghedli started with huge ideals and the founding fathers and those who participated in it had big dreams but expected modest returns for themselves, their kids and every Eritrean
        The founding fathers had crystal pure clarity
        During those golden budding years, Ghedli was hijacked by some alliance of killers and the result was disaster
        Everyone who repented and tried to right the wrong, no matter how late in the game, no matter how small the accomplishment must be forgiven, if for nothing else for the sake of the posterity of the nations
        G-15: too late but NOT too little.
        The romantic and neo-unionist have more in common than meets the eyes.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Sem,

          The Eritrean history is still untouched. So far what people are talking is “lahmet nay Tarikina Tray iyu”. Let me tell you a short story what Dr. Tesfazion Medhane had once said in 1977. He was teaching at Khartoum University as that time. Dr. Tesfazion came to meda to see the revolutionary activities on the ELF side in the same year. The fighters gave him a good tour to all the departmental offices of ELF. He was impressed all in all about the activities.When he was to leave the field, this is what he said: ” ELF is an organization like a dull mirror that doesn’t reflect its activities to the outside world.” Indeed he was right that ELF’s activities wasn’t promoted as it should be to the outside world at that time. The Cramer story of ELF in the sixties during the battle of Halhal is part of our history recorded by foreigners wasn’t told until recently. There are many surprises.

          regards,
          Amanuel Hidrat

          • Rodab

            Aman,
            I am sure you ELFites have as compelling a story as the EPLFites. But Why are you guys not good at narrating your story. EPLF won the war and with that came the privilege for it to write history in its own terms. And I get that, no blame there. But what about at the individual levels (abroad)? One of the best ways to communicate one’s story is through books. What’s not written vanishes. The question is why are ELF members not inclined to contribute books the way the EPLFites do? I say this because I can mention books written by people like Alemseged Tesfay, Solomon Drar, Dr Berekhet, Ambassador Andebirhan, Dan Conell and many more. But you would be hard pressesd to list few books from the ELF side. Burke no??

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Rodab,
            .
            I agree with you. Plus look at Amanuel Hidrat himself, his own political life is a compelling story. He has written enough comments here to fill a good size book. In some of his comments you get a little glimpse of bits and pieces of his life.
            .
            I do disagree with some of his beliefs and philosophical outlook. Setting that aside, Rodab, would you not buy a book about this man’s life journey of the good and bad events so far. I will tell you I will buy 2 books. That is actual lived history in my book. Maybe somebody like you should sit down, and interview him and write a Y.G size article. I know, I know time….
            .
            Have a great happy 2015.
            .
            K.H

          • Rodab

            Selam Kim,

            Yes I would certainly buy Aman’s book. Aman and MaHmuday can join forces to write a book, half of the chapters on ELF and the other half on EPLF. Thanks for the suggestion me interviewing him. It would be a lot better if Dr Russom from Asmarino interviewd him though. Infact, Russom is running out of people to interview. Perhaps I should suggest that he book Sal and YG. Are you reading this Dr. Russom? If so, please please find Dejen Ande. That would be blackbuster!

            But speaking of books Kim, I bought a cousin what I thought would make a nice Chrismas gift. It didn’t go well. She already had the book. I told her to re-gift it. Now you know my little secrete

          • Mahmud Saleh

            teg/Emma the greatista
            Your non-existent “ideological” stalemate with saay aside, could you suggest a book written by ex-ELF tegadelti. I would love to have one. I read a book by ex-ELF urban operations tegadelit, and I can tell you it was a good read. I came to know a lot about the mystical names and characters of ELF fedaeein whom I had known only by their names.
            It’s wrong that Eritrean government, like in many other areas, failed to give ELF experience a space in its mass media. Writing books and disseminating that experience rests on the shoulders of each ELF member, but as a government, they should have given that experience a space.
            For instance, AHferom Tewelde ( a former ELF tegadalay/cadre) directed Nakfa school of social science, or enda cadre. I would be interested to know if ELF experience has been given the emphasis it deserves.
            The point is: ELF experience is an Eritrean experience, and it should be given a deserving space.
            Hold on Abu Noah, I am saying for its historical significance/valuation; and strictly done by folks other than Abu Noah (aka semere A).

          • Semere Andom

            Abu Biddho (Aka MaHmuday)
            You are hanging around with Mowlana Sal (he added ranks after his coup :-)). I have nothing to disagree with this comment. Problem is thepeople like Ahferom Tewelde were part of the Sagem, the lower ranking cadres from ELF except Toteel that is and they did not have in their possession important documents after EPLF snapped them in vulture deal., break up ELF and the take the parts they needed and name it unity.
            You are also underestimating what you can contribute by writing a book because any honest book written even by EPLF side will not be able to exlude ELF history. If not the Almins will overwrite everthing

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Abu Noah, the Hfoonaay
            ናይ “ካልኣይን ሓድነታውን ጉባኤ” መልእኽቲ ኢድን ማንካን መልእኽተይ ናይዚ ሓድሽ ዓመት ተበላሽወለይ ኣለኻ። Ah, Sem, here you go all shabait, all politics. Where is half-cousin Hope? For God sake, it’s a new year eve go easy. Suggest something, please.
            Hto nab teg/abu Noah, the Hfoonaay:
            Why where you coming to Hshkb and Girmayka (to the territory of the vultures) when those poor elements where supposedly mutilated by those vultures you were coming to visit? And now, what you said..? Another example of ክውዕየካ ብማንካ ክዝሕለካ ብኢድካ። ተረኸብካ ዓርከይ። What would you do if you were in their place (having the will to continue to struggle for your country, and a dimer situation of rehabilitating Jabha Abaay?
            ** But it’s a serious task. I believe the few veterans remaining need to document their experience. I supported the gathering or the reunion meetings of those veterans in that vein. We will have ample time to exchange views regarding the experience of gallant ELF fighters who joined the EPLF once pressing hagerawi Gudayat are addressed.
            Happy New Year, Abu Noah.

          • Semere Andom

            Hi MaHmuday:

            You need to talk to Gadi a lot to thicken your skin, by vultures I was refereeing to it positively in terms of the sherwedness of EPLF, if you think of it as business, to beat a competition and then buy parts of it to kill it. Lakin ma etwefeqta:-)

            After laelway edi natka miskone about the award we can debate the “hadnetawi” congress. Remember we in the student union also went through that congress so I know a little bit. I also know a little bit on the debacle when the student union changed to youth union and this happened in Hishkib 🙂 The name change was un popular but it was shoved down. I actually wanted it to be “HMWE”, hagerawi Mahber Worazut Eritrea. I am serious, a linguistic guy from Germany suggested it sarcastically, I think and I seconded it, I defined worazut vs meneseyat and it lost in the vote as it was pre-ordained 🙂 But I could not believe it that it was taken seriously. Here you go for Hishkib story

            My suggestion is you guys need to compile/add to the raw data about our history so historians can write it as Emma says. I even asked you a question twice about the Yemin movement and eshish elkayo.
            Happy new year to you too.

            Why I was Ghirmayka? to lisen to this:

            ባቡራየ በጥራ ፍንገ ከረን ዎ አስመራ
            Joke MaHmuday, Joke, or as cousin hope would say, waza/tilhiya/niquta 😉

            Sem

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Dear Abu Noah,
            Rest assured that I have understood you. Did you read Emma’s reply? That’s what I mean when I say ” let’s leave it to history. ” But encouraging folks to share their memory is Halafnetawi.

          • Semere Andom

            Mahmuday:

            waza/tilhiya/niquta only applies to “ባቡራየ በጥራ ፍንገ ከረን ዎ አስመራ”, I put that so you do not accuse of “tahrif ayat wed Sheik” 😉
            The reset was no joke

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Mahmud Saleh,
            .
            Excuse the intrusion on many levels. There is a lot I did not get from your above post. Kinda of ‘inside the beltway’ conversations. However, I think your one sentence statement ” I believe the few veterans remaining need to document their experience.” need to be fitted with a flashing lights.
            .
            The day after tomorrow is 2015. Time is galloping and that sense of urgency has to be pointed out at every opportunity. By the way that includes you too.
            You mentioned few veterans remaining. When you factor in capacity, ability, family demands and the like together with the shear survival mode by some in foreign lands, those who can do it are very very few indeed.
            .
            Let the Historians write and rewrite and revise their books for decades to come. When the chips are down it probably yours that they use partly as a source anyway.
            .
            with respect.
            .
            K.H

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear Mahmuday,
            Any history which is not written by historians can’t be free from bias excepts those of biographies. I wouldn’t indulge myself at this particular time to write history until we get full access to documents and personalities who where actors in the history.
            Amanuel Hidrat

      • Gud

        Saay buddy,

        Now, that is funny. You know what is more funny though? we, on the other side (the always winners:)) were looking for some one or group with even a tiny bit of a brain or some commons sense amoung the idiots ( don’t you come waving your posting guidelines or something now, ok? You call the Eri Gov stubborn stupid, I call the so called opposition, educated idiots, fair?) and we were kind of banking on the SAAY s, but all along you were thinking on banking on the Guds. Man, I don’t know how it looks on your side, but on my end, that is hillarious. Thanks for trying though.

        For your information, the Guds have been around more or less since the beginning of your forum, and haven’t seen you guys succeed in pulling any one from the other side. Well, yea sure, you will say Haile, but that dude would tell you he has never been on the other side, so the answer would be zero. But, you guys have been attracting other weirded entities, the Hayats, the semeres, the Woyanies, and all those kind of individually, and I know you are proud of that

        • saay7

          Selamat Gud:

          Come on, you actually want to count who has more POWs? How many from our side crossed to the “winning side” and how many crossed from your side to ours? From your side to ours: adiom tuktserom. 🙂 from our side to yours: I am thinking hard and I count only two: Abdulkader Hamdan and Alem Goitom. The latter is so embarassed by what he has done he still insists on wearing our uniform 🙂

          Saay

  • Gud

    Every thing you guys say about the Eritrean government is always wrong. Even if it is to your benefit, you always F*** it up. Seriously.
    If you ask me, the Eritrean gov, would even PAY you (as in so called opposition and their medias) idiots if you are genuine enough to help Eritreans who decided to go out from their country illegally and are becoming victims outside their country. No, the Meron Stifanos and the likes, kind of help is part of the trafficking and is not part of the help. The only thing the Gov can do for those Eritreans already in the camps, by choice, is confirm that it will accept them if they decided to come back to their country voluntarily, and it accepts them with an open arm. Common now, even lost souls are going back to Eritrea as they please.
    Help for those who claim (Genuinely or otherwise, for the purpose of asylum or refugee status) to have run away from Eritrea and its government can only come from OUTSIDE. There is nothing the government can, not directly at least. It can do indirectly, if it can find any group (So called opposition or any group) genuine enough, who really cares for Eritreans and hence collaborate with the government. This is for Eritreans, right?

    As for the “It doesn’t even use their miserable living condition as a “teaching moment” to warn its citizens about the perils of leaving Eritrea” Really? What else do Eritrean ( in the form of movies, songs and all) do? Go check, you would not even miss it even if you don’t have any of the five senses, just own a working brain. Jesus! Remember that song “Bahri” by Tesfay Mehari, Fhra? that was out way way before the Lampedusa tragedy. Well, awate.com was posting that song after the tragedy as if they found something new
    Common now, do something useful for a change, God! And you should learn to shoulder some responsibility with out pointing that finger at the Government.

    • hope

      Gud,
      Are you serious?Are you using your five senses as well?
      You think the GoE is doing enough?
      Come on bro/sis,use your senses genuinely and rationally.
      -Simple Policy Modifications on the Economy,Education,and National Service could have minimized the alariming and the scary exodus.
      Re-read the The Catholic Bishops’ Letter word by word and you will find the challenging questions,the weaknesses,drawbacks,and mistakes of the GoE along with their solutions and recommendations.
      The movies and the songs are NOT enough but only part of the advice.
      There should have an extensive Media coverage on a daily basis besides community,the Youth focused, agitations,meetings,etc– showing the tragedies; and Haile TG can help them with that if they hire him ….
      This is the Gov that remained silent until the SMG exposed things and started to show some crocodile tears…after we have lost more than 300,000 Youth and kids as refugees since the last 10 yrs.—besides losing more than 5000 deaths at the deserts and under the Seas,organ Harvesting

    • saay7

      Selamat Gud:

      Happy New Year.

      First of all, go easy on the F-bombs. Now, let’s start from point # 2:

      The Isaias Afwerki regime owns the entire media in Eritrea. When news breaks all over the world about Eritreans perishing in distant places, the turtle withdraws his head into his shell and just waits for the noise to subside. The reason it can’t say Eritreans died in the Mediterranean Sea…or Calais…or Malta…of Shagarab or the other dozens of places we had never heard of it because it knows this will get the people to ask questions: “why are my children leaving our country?” And therefore, because its primary and only concern is staying in power, it says nothing; it has never said anything, unless it was being kicked and dragged, as happened in Lampedusa. But even then, because it has no class and is a government run by a petty tyrant, it refused to lower the Eritrean flag to half mast.

      Are you giving credit to the government for Fihira’s work? So Fihira now works for the government and they write his songs?

      As for the government’s message that anybody can return to Eritrea, even when the Danes gave the government a softball, even after they basically wrote a report that said no Eritrean gets punished after he returns home (a curious report based on zero visits to prison) , the Eritrean government officials couldn’t hit that softball and they were saying, well, no, a person who returns home may be punished, etc.

      So all the Jesus, God, and other exclamations you used should be directed to the Isaias Afwerki regime which is a train wreck.

      saay

  • Hope

    Breaking News:
    Since PIA will be conducting a Live Interview with the EriTV on Dec 30th,2014,all Citizens,inside and outside the Nation, are invited to forward their questions to the MoI to be addressed by PIA.
    Please be brief and to the point and avoid duplicate questions.
    “President Isaias Afwerki will conduct an interview with ERi-TV”.
    Here are few of mine:
    Your Excellency :
    -What happened to the Old and the New Constitution?
    -When will be the Return of the National Service to its Original Norm(Time Limit) effective per the Eri Embassy’s Declaration in Washingtton,DC?
    -Since the Border is virtually demarcated as you repeatedly declared,what is holding back the Implementation of the old Ratified or the “Newly to be Ratified Constitution”?
    -When will the Private Sector of the Economy be allowed to function?
    -What do you think the major causes of the alarming exodus of the Eri Youth and Kids other than the CIA/Weyane Factors;and what do you think the Solutions would be in your opinion?
    -What are we waiting for/to the alarming Exodus of the Eri Youth and kids?
    -Can you comment on the the 13 Youth,who were allegedy “Gunned Down ” by the Government Forces in Karora?If true,why would the Governement Forces gun them down rather than arresting them and bringing them to “Justice”?
    -What is the fate of the G-11 and Journalists at Ela Eiro and other prisoners including Gen Bitwedid Abreha,Gen Osman Ali et al including Mustafa Nurhusein,Abdella Jabir, Gen Habtetsion,the Junior Officers/Colonels and other Political Prisoners?
    -Where are we on the Peace Status with the “Weyanes” and the CIAs(USA)?
    -Where are we on the UNSC Sanction status and why are being sanctioned further?And why did China vote for it and Russia abstain from it?Are we still messing around or missing something?
    -Where are we with the Mining,Gas and Oil Exploration status so far?
    -Why can’t we have a transparency on the Gold Mining Investment?
    -Can you comment on the issues of the Orota School of Post-Graduate Medicine in ref to the fate of its old Staff and its current Status?
    -Why can’t the GoE say or does something about the Eri Refugees,who have become the victims of every evil thing under the SUN—-Rape,Torture,Organ Harvesting,Human Trafficking,Death in the Deserts and under the Seas,victims of the evil Rashaidas,including the recent Shegereb mayheim,etc….
    -What would be the role of the State when its citizens have become the victims of the above horrors,never seen in the Eritrean or even World history?
    Please advise!
    -etc—
    Happy New to you!

    • Rodab

      Lol Hope, aren’t you too generous!? All of your questions violate the State media questioning guidelines. Allowable questions come in the form of ‘kbur president, how was the Eritrean people able to register such impressive development programs while rebuffing and mounting staunch resistance against external conspiracies with great patriotic zeal?’ then you let the man talk for half hour before you proceed to your second and similar question. No interruption, no follow-up.
      I hope the constitution is mentioned in some form since he made announcement about it, but the rest? You can’t milk an ox.

    • Nitricc

      i will like to tell PIA that time for change and the change won’t happen with out blessing. i ask PIA to assign a future leader. i have no problem if he choses a leader he can manuplate behand the doors. I ask PIA to let the G 15 free, enough is enough. I ask PIA to let free the journalists, there is no point holding them behind the bars. I ask PIA to respect his legescy and what he meant to the independece of Eritrea. I ask PIA to retire in dignity. and I advice PIA power is an addiction that will kill you. time to let it go and let go with dignity. you like or not change will come, be part of it. enough is enough.
      Nitricc, 12/28/2014.

      • AOsman

        Signed and Dated by Tegadalai/Warsay Nitricc

      • saay7

        Nitricc:

        The first sentence and the last sentence are contradicting each other. One says change won’t happen with the Ganen’s blessing, and the other one says change will happen whether he likes it or not.

        My theory is that you believe the latter. You said the first sentence out of habit: you are hard-wired to annoy the opposition and it just came out: change won’t happen without PIA blessing! Hirrir de’a belu you toothless oppo! But the last sentence shows: you don’t believe it. Right?

        Or, are you saying: Notwithstanding the pictures Eri-TV drags out of Issu to show him as eternally young, he is getting old and whether he likes it or not, he is not Methuselah and he will kick the bucket at some point?

        saay

        • Nitricc

          SAAY, no contradiction at all. I am encouraging him to initiate the change and still be at the driver sit and navigate the process, that way a win win situation. He will win and Eritrea wins.Or else, if he insisting on the same old same old way, not only he couldn’t stop the change but he will be consumed in the process of the change. He has reached his limits and it is time. What amazes me is how easily PIA can change things around.
          Free the prisoners! There is no point holding them with out due process. Go back to the 18 months national military service. Come up with workable plane for the students didn’t make the points. Set date for the constitution. Open up the market and the rest will work out it self. Number priority is you have to hold on the youth from leaving the country.
          The way it is right now is, a student takes an exam. He/she gets the point, say..
          10 % move on in two higher educations the rest I will say 90 % of the student there is nowhere to go but to leave the country.

          • saay7

            Selamat Nitricc:

            Agreed.

            Morality 101:

            When someone tells hard truth to people in power, specially powerful people he respects, it’s called telling truth to power and the person who does it is a truth-teller

            This is the exact opposite of those who excuse, rationalize, explain away massive excesses of people in power. We have eritreans who do that on behalf on PFDJ, Eitreans eho do that on behalf of the opposition; Ethiopians who do that on behalf of EPRDF. And we even have, most curious of all, even Eritreans who do that on behalf of EPRDF.

            This is why Nitricc is a truth-teller. The rest–Gebru, adigrat, dedebit–is just colorful Internet jargon. Thus ends today’s lecture, children. Wa Algrd yafham.

            saay

          • Nitricc

            “Adi Grat has developed massively and Adi Quala is exactly how it was in the 1970s, Nitricc)–is just colorful Internet jargon.”

            hahahahah you are funny guy,SAAY. why do you think a person from Adi-grat is so desperate to normailze relationship with Eritrea even at the cost of going war? that area is dead and they are pushing for normalization with Eritrea. you know what; one of this days i will loan you my set eyes if you can keep it secret :-). the Turth? Adi-grat is a goest town.

          • saay7

            Nitriccom:

            You DO know they have this thing called YouTube 🙂

            YouTube adigrat. Then YouTube adiquala. Them give me a truth-teller report. Otherwise I am sending Mahmuday AND Semere A to crack the awate whip on you.

            saay

          • Rodab

            Nitricc,
            Even Sal is underestimating Adi Grat. Adi Quala is in no way comparable to Adi Grat. Try our second largest city, Keren.
            Where is Pappii? She used to get all upset when she watches videos of Addis and Mekelle, which remind her our cities and towns being left way behind.

          • Nitricc

            Rodab, SAAY is terrified that Lete-kidan is coming after him. she told me that i am nothing to her, the only reason coming after me is to get to SAAY. talk about strange? this woman is mantel. what ever happen to pappi, Yoddita and my old good friend, letekidan lol

    • AOsman

      Hope,

      If the interview gets cancelled you have yourself to blame, you need to go short and sweet like Nitricc :).

      Regards
      AOsman

      • Hope

        Ahlen AOsman!
        Too late!

    • Abinet

      Hope nefse
      Can you ask one question for me?
      Ask him when he is going to return his Christmas gift ? I bet it is the only aircraft in eritrea that is new and operating.
      However, he can keep it for the right price.(assab+Badime)
      Happy new year , cousin. I really enjoyed chatting with you.

      • Hope

        Abi
        That is MOT enough buddy.
        I need a better treat in Bahirdar and the Awash Resorts and a big favor to persuade Rahwit et al at the Bole Airport Security to let me in and out safely.
        I am missing my Gonderie Kimant sweet heart.
        Happy New Year

  • saay7

    Selamat abraham t. berhe:

    The ELF and EPLF of the late 1970s would never have allowed this: they had Fedayeen units just to deal with this kind of abuse. What we have now is a diminished and deformed version of them.

    Yes, I absolutely agree with you: it is lack of aya with teeth. If by teeth you mean AK-47s and their disciplined and judicious use.

    saay

    • Kokhob Selam

      Ah, What is happening to us? The country of Ahmed Asmara, Hadish WeldGergish is suffering!!

  • Mahmud Saleh

    Dear AT;
    A very important editorial: Who will speak for the voiceless Eritreans in Sudan? It’s an irony. Eritrean refugees in Sudan had more protection and strong voice at a time when they did not have a state of their own. What’s more embarassing than this? I mean Eritrean revolution was more powerful and protecting its citizens in Sudan than the State Of Eritrea!
    I think this should be a watershed moment; organized opposition particularly those in close proximity and with a power to deliver the message should do it now. They have to channel the message to these brutal elements that there is a price they should expect if they mess up with our defenseless people. I believe some steps must be taken.
    a/ Those who have the exposure and means to do so, particularly notable media personalities, veteran opposition leaders and elder intellectuals need to pressure the organized opposition to shift towards substituting government duties; where the failure of the central government is obvious, it’s prudent that they act as defacto authority protecting our people.
    b/ These organized opposition, some of them with armed wings need to come up with a collective plan to help the refugees form defense committes in these camps, even through clandestine networks. We just can’t entertain year after year whining over the kidnapping and abuse of our people.
    c/ these organized opposition groups should work harder to make sure Eritreans stick together; Eritreans of lowland have more leverage at sending the message that these criminals should expect that they will pay for whatever criminal acts they are inflicting upon our people.
    d/ Let the year 2015 be a year of united action in exposing the plight of our refugees in the Sudan on the international arena, and exposing UN failures at protecting these refugees. The plight of these refugees is not less urgent than the drowning of our youth in the Mediteranean, and their despicable treatment by human traffickers and organ harvesters.
    Thanks AT again for this editorial, I wish you did not give the Nazir that amount of space. What we need is action not sweet words. They have been tolerated for too long. There should be a limit for everything. Eritreans have the right to protect themselves.

    • saay7

      Selamat Mahmuday:

      The translation of the long letter of the Rashaida Nazer was not to showcase his “sweet words” but to demonstrate the cause and effect. Pressure by the right group yielded the right result: unconditional acceptance of wrongdoing. We hope whoever follows through sends a copy of this letter to the Nazer to remind him that the criminal elements in his tribe have not been controlled and that, as their Nazer and in accordance with their tradition, he is personally responsible.

      saay

      • Mahmud Saleh

        Ahlan saay,
        AT has taken the responsibility and has spoken for those voiceless. Thank you. I hope the organized opposition in close proximity takes this call seriously and act accordingly. I was just disgusted by the Nazir’s lip service.

    • Kokhob Selam

      They didn’t call you the great man of the year without reason. I am looking for 0.2 points to join the crowd.
      well done.

    • Semere Andom

      Dar MaHmud Saleh:
      I agree with everything you said in this comment
      except one minor one, which I will mention later. Since the PFDJ
      government profits from this trade and torture it is naive to expect it
      to work against its own interest, to kill the goose the lays golden
      eggs, so the onus is on the opposition to come up with something
      tangible both to do the right thing also do good for the collective
      cause. But the heavy lifting should be done by the grass root organized
      citizens action. As I have always maintained one of the “successes” of
      PFDJ is to kill the fighting spirit of the Eritrean people. The more
      the going went tougher Eritreans showed unbelievable tenacity to face
      the bull by its horns and take the needed risks and for the most part
      they triumphed, but the price was huge and they believed it was worth
      it. But PFDJ defeated Eriteansim, those qualities of yester years seem
      to have gone to the ether if the last 23 years and especially the last
      decade are to be taken as a proof. Almost all the youth who are falling
      under the Rashaida criminals are military trained and it is mind
      boggling to see them humilated by these brutes. So we the people bear
      also the responsibility for our cowardice, we seem to coast on our
      past heroism:
      The minor issue I disagree with you in this comment is
      this: in saying the Eritrean revolution was able to protect the
      refugees before , but since the revolution included EPLF the statement
      is wrong. The EPLF was never known to have come to the aid of the people
      who fell in hard times under the Sudanese “amne dewla”, they will
      betray you and you had to find your own way to get protection. This
      lumping is unfair to the other Eriteran function who were there when any
      Eritrean was arrested. Helping Eritreans has never been EPLF’s forte
      even before it has become the monster that PFDJ is now.

      Two years
      ago an article about the push and pull factors of the youth exodus
      appeared in this website and we had debated it. Yes there are infants,
      elderly and disabled Rashaidas’ that are not directly participating in
      this crime, but according to some youth who have escaped their wrath
      tell the all the villagers are collaborators. Even if you are not
      directly involved if you look the other way when crimes are committed
      you are the collaborators. Kids and house wive have slapped and abused
      Eriteran while they were under chains in the villages around Kassala and
      when they escaped , many villagers witnessed the fight in the streets
      but looked the other way. But I will be remiss not to mention the good
      deeds of the people like the Sheik who escorted Dr. Alganesh to Sinnai.
      The attempt to make it appear that very few Rashaida’s are the
      criminals by ignoring the collaborators, enforcers and on lookers is in
      the same vein as the debate about solely blaming DIA.
      Ultimately,
      the people should stop the complacency and not expect their safety
      /security from the PFDJ which profits from their suffering or from the
      opposition that is blinded by the singular focus on the corpse that is
      totting a gun: PFDJ.

      • Mahmud Saleh

        Salam Abu Noah
        መልእኽትኻ ብጽሞና ኣንቢበዮ (ወይ ከኣ ነቢበዮ- ብናይ ሎሚ ትግርኛ)-> I read your message with due diligence. Abu Noah, this matter is very sensitive, the chance that it could go being an ethnic confrontation is a matter of how heavier the last straw could be. The oxygen is in the air, the match is available, and the grass is dry. So far the arsonists have been foiled by our people’s extreme upholding to their moral values and long existed culture of peaceful coexistence. But if these activities continue, I think at the end, those Nazirs of the said tribes are hurting the future of their children. I understand it’s delicate but it should be channeled to them in no uncertain terms that if they don’t desist from these criminal activities, neighboring tribes and affected societies have no way of knowing which ones are the bad apples among the Rashaidas; in the absence of law and order, the Rashaidas have to figure this out. I believe Eritrean opposition organizations in close proximity have the authority and the means to do this. I agree with you that ultimately it’s the people who should protect themselves. I will stress though, unless a government agency, or an organized political opposition fills the vacuum, we may expect to witness an ugly scenario where the conflict takes ethnic and tribal shape. That’s why I stress the need of channeling that message to the Rashaidas by an agent with a fatter stick.
        On the other point of ghedli:
        Aware that in this long and arduous campaign for clutching “Awatista of the year” I have reached a stage where I can smell it, I will rather hung away the coat of wedi-Saleh and put on the “Dr” Mahmuday. Let’s keep our ranks and files intact, “No awatista left behind” as our visionary alQaed almunawar alAzeem saay reminds us. The year 2015 should be a year awatistas show their best by focusing on practical issues with the aim of contributing positively towards the overall opposition efforts. In light of this spirit, I will just enumerate some reminders, without going on rebuffing your description of EPLF role. But let’s remember the story of the picture. Remember, Saleh Younis posted a picture of tegadelti posing with two white young men. Abraham Hannibal thought they were the Russians from Nadew Ez; I said the tegadelti appeared to be ELF ones or may be early EPLF tegadelti based on their uniforms, munition belt arrangements and other artifacts. I was sure they were not 1988 EPLF. This hit Saleh Gadi’s memory and made him come up with a memorable short story. We were all happy. You see, ones the cadres (EHmm, like my bad friend Abu Noah, stay away, we the veterans get along really well). Now to come to our topic.

        Generally ELF had the Kassalla and Gadarf region as their turf while the EPLF had the Port Sudan region. I was not in Sudan, but it’s my understanding Eritrean Refugees felt more secure during those days. It’s true the EPLF entered the work of dealing with refugees late in the game, so to speak. But , it’s safe to say there was a power projected from the field.
        1. Sudanese Authority saw Mengistu as a harassing menace, and for that reason, at least from their national security angle, they saw the Eritrean Revolution as a wedge between them and Mengstu. The war was raging across the border. So, there was an overwhelming sense particularly in circles of Sudanese elites that they better respect Eritreans.
        2. There were educational, and other social services delivered to those camps by EPLF ( In know other organizations also did the same), EPLF had schools in almost all the refugee camps.
        3. There was a general admiration of Sudanese society upon Eritreans for the above reasons and for their heroic struggle which was waged not too far from the Sudanese border; Eritreans were walking tall.
        4. Both organizations used a carrot and stick policy towards corrupted officials. At times bribing them and in other instances delivering to them clear ultimatums; usually rounding up of Eritreans and closing of our offices would last only for days.
        I could go to specifics, but for the time being, the important thing is not who did what decades ago, but who could do what at this time, now. As you said it in your announcement introducing me as awatista of the year, let historians deal with history. We are facing with urgent problems that don’t seem to care discriminating us based on our affiliation to historic organizations.

      • Hope

        Dude,
        Why are you living in the 80s,man?
        Wake up Dude and move on….ELF vs EPLF–has become obsolete.
        The only thing you could do is:
        Learn lessons from the past mistakes so as to avoid repeating the same mistakes —–
        What the heck has the EPLF /ELF thing has to do with the terrible mayhem in Shegereb?
        We have to debate about solving the problems and helping them today and tomorrow.
        Let us petition to the UNHCR to protect our refugees.
        Help the EPDP Effort….
        This mayhem/tragedies,kidnappings,etc–have happened before–almost daily—but we have done nothing–even petitioning,for God’s sake??
        Yeah,that is tru,let us walk the talk..

        • Semere Andom

          Now i am demoted from cousin to dude. Nominee Saleh got me correctly in
          this piece, I wanted to correct him and he rebutted me and he made lots
          of sens, I have to explain and we are not going to the 80s were I had no
          role and Mahmuday had little role as a young freedom fighter.
          Yes it had to do with shegerab because EPLF according to me did not have a
          good record in keeping Eritreans safe in the refugee camps, and they are
          not going to learn new skills now, you cannot teach a career criminal
          to be humane now. That is the point. I was not part of the ELF and EPLF
          war so do not keep accusing me of going back to the 80s, please read in
          context. MaHmuday rightly mentioned the schools that EPLF run but now we
          are in election mode so I will analys the EPLF schools and services in
          the future as am sure MaHmuday and I will raise the issue again. We have
          agreed in the thread and I also appreciate his cationary tail.. In
          passing I want to say that the reason the cadres like Abu Noah have been
          hatched is because the vets did not get along. We have way to go to
          elevate this debate with MaHmuday, your distracting us yba 🙂

          • hope

            My apology for using the word “Dude”..
            Ok Cousin Sem,
            I took it foregranted that you know my my ‘unpredictable/Tebloklok style” nature.
            But still my point is:
            What the heck has this EPLF/ELF thing to do now in 2015 ?
            The new Generation along with its NEW ideology has to take over and the OLDies can be used as ” Consultants”.
            The timely call is :
            What can we do and how?What Urgent Strategies should we use?

    • Hope

      Ahh,here we go again Mahmouday and THANK you for the New Year’s Message/Speech.
      Eventhough relayed in an “Ide-Egri Zeibilu” commenting,that was my message to the Top Personalities,here at awate.com/Forum.
      Bingo Big Bro.!
      Since you are more influential than some of us,I hope they will listen to you.
      God bless you,my man.
      N.B.
      There was a serious reason / rationale behind nominating you to the Awatuista of teh year,not just being my half Cousin or Tegadalay–and Cousin Sem knew about it..and if Sem said it seriously,NOT just sarcastically,it should be beyond serious.Nomination..
      The keren we Hagaz/Tessenei Style “SheHanful and Berad ShaHi” invitation is renewed for life.

      • hope

        Pls read “the Awatuista of teh year”as:”The Awatista of the Year”

  • Efriem

    It is very sad story to hear that a lot of innocent Eritreans smuggled, tortured and victimized by the criminals Rashaida group in collaboration with the ever corrupted Sudanese policemen. I think as they could have a good connection with their tribe in Eritrea Kicking out the Rashaida tribe from all parts of Eritrea could be a better answer for them. From my personal experience i have never seen any person from the Rashaida tribe in the struggle for our independence or in the national service, therefore, i don’t see any reason for them to be inside us torturing, raping and smuggling our people for runsom.

  • tafla

    SAAY, right?

    So, what they need is a Nazir? And how does one go about to get a Nazir in Sudan if you are a Christian?

    • Nazirless

      I guess their nazir is failing them, since it is selling them to human traffickers directly.

    • saay7

      Selamat Tafla:

      No, what we need is all the Eritrean opposition, armed or unarmed, which claims to speak on behalf of all Eritreans to assertively stand for all Eritreans, just as we did during Eritrea’s armed struggle. There is no way in hell that the ELF or the EPLF would have stood by idly if any Eritrean, no matter their ethnicity, was being abused, much less kidnapped, enslaved and trafficked.

      saay