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The Good Tegadalit

 As the saying goes, “Behind every successful man, there is a strong, brave, wise and hardworking woman”, it is also true without an iota of doubt: behind the successful Eritrean Gedli, there was a strong, wise, courageous, selfless, resilient and hardworking Tegadalit

This article is incomplete and imperfect. And the main reason is, I humbly admit, I am not the one qualified to write the complete, legendary and complex story. This article is also so condensed and short, I honestly feel embarrassed to post it. It cannot be an introduction either for it hardly scratches the surface of the harrowing, long, painful, burdensome and heroic history. But it has to be initiated because we the fathers, grandfathers, brothers, uncles, husbands of the Good woman are witnessing a living hell that is befalling over the Good woman who is repeatedly and incessantly receiving the brunt of the force of tyranny, despotism and oppression. It is uncalled for; it is unfair, it is crime against humanity period.

When the Good woman suffers, we all suffer. When the Good woman becomes homeless and beggar, we all become homeless and beggars. When the Good woman is hungry, we all are hungry. When the Good woman cries, we all cry. When the good woman is bullied and harassed, we all are harassed and bullied. When the Good woman is imprisoned, we all are imprisoned. When the Good woman abandons her land and her roots we all become refugees. When the Good woman’s remains are scattered in the desert sand, our bodies are scattered in the desert sand. When the Good woman drowns, we all drown. When the Good woman’s body is abused, we are all abused. When the Good woman’s spirit is down, we all are hopeless. When the Good woman is violated, we are all violated. There is no way around these facts. But, Why, Why, Why, Why and Why?

This is how I introduce the Good tegadalit:

By nurture and nature she was Good girl. She was Good sister. She was Good Woman. She was Good Moslem. She was Good Christian. She was Good Gual Metahit. She was Good Gual Kebesa.

So she became Good Tegadalit. No question about these qualifications.

Unlike the Good boys, Good men and Good brothers of Gedli, she was ready-made for Gedli. This assertion is not exaggeration or misleading embellishment.

From childhood until maturity and then the balance of her life, she was meticulously, expertly, and harshly trained and primed for hard, tedious and painful work. Her Good mother and as a matter of fact all Good women in her surrounding did not spare or slacken to forge, chisel, and harden her due diligence, skills, attitudes, behaviors, speeches and intelligence for life time family, village and neighborhood services whether she was a nomad girl, village girl, town girl  or city girl.

For the Good girl, leisure was unattainable dream. For the Good girl, Hope was vanity. For the Good girl, there was no way out. For the Good girl boredom was non-existent commodity. She could not run away for running away was tantamount to suicide and worse, dehumanization. She had no say. She had no right to disobey. She had no freedom. She had no room to wiggle. She had no time to rest. She cannot refuse. Absolute obedience, attention, readiness for punishment, concentration, and retention of what she learnt was her only salvation.

Mind you- the Good boys were spared of all these shackles that were singularly and directly imposed upon the Good girl.

The training regimen was conservative, repetitive, long, archaic, tedious and sometimes violent and abusive (by modern standards). Even the manner she sits; the way she walks; the manner she interacts with others; the style she dresses; the way she talks; the manner she eats; the way she cooks; the way she do manual laundry; the way she irons was dictated. Prudence, secrecy and discretion were of utmost importance during menstrual periods. No man, no boy should know or detect!! Exactitude was her Good mother’s unflinching tool. And the end result was perfection. The Good girl became a Good Mother, a Good Woman.

The Good was earned and deserved not merely given.

The Good girl was also trained to be tolerant, self-reliant and creative for without these virtues she will be mocked and she would become pariah among the Good women. She had to learn to make her own utensils for borrowing from others was shameful. During bad times she had to be creative to make something out of nothing to feed and clothe her family. If she succeeded, and better succeed, she will be showered with accolades that did mean nothing to her for she was also spiritually trained to avoid egotism and vanity.

The Good girl never complained when she awoke at down before everyone in her family  and hand milled grains (tihina, lenkita) for Kitcha; milked the goats to make birah, tesmi and likai; fetched water for the family from far away ruba with Mai Zmelee Utro or waterskin carried on her back ; never flinched when she collected wood and carried the load on her back; never complained about fumes from burning wood (or Kubo,Fandia- dried dunk  from cows and donkeys); never said I am tired while toiling (gardening, weeding) with a baby (sister, brother, niece, nephew, cousin) strapped on her back and so on and so forth.

No man, No boy does none of these back breaking tasks. It was Taboo. A Taboo that caused laziness, procrastinations and carelessness with dire consequences!

I don’t want the reader to think her mother or the women in her surrounding were cruel. They have been through it. It was singularly imposed over them as their natural [born] duty and responsibilities in Life. To the contrary the Good mother loved and adored her Good girl. She empathized and sympathized with her. The Good mother felt pain when she inflicted pain on her Good girl. But experience taught the Good mother that laxity was death. Consciously and sub-consciously the Good mother was preparing her Good daughter for the ultimate test. A test of Life or Death! The Test was to stoically bear the most painful of all pains (scientifically tested and proven): labor/delivery, unassisted by medication, nurses or doctors. Her Good mother also perfectly understood the cost and consequences of failure in a girl and it will be redundant on my side to elaborate more.

This was the Good girl who joined her Good brothers to fight Injustices. Because training never ceased during her upbringing, military training was not difficult for her. Actually it fitted her. Because hardship was part and parcel of her upbringing, the harsh life of Gedli was a variation and not novelty to her. In no time she became equal to the Good tegadalai and in some aspects, she excelled him.

The initial doubt [call it conservative, patriarchal or misogyny] about her was quickly evaporated. Not out of benevolence but because she proved it wrong. The Good tegadalit walked the walk and talked the talk. She stood her ground and confronted mockeries head on, with words and through actions.

The Good tegadalai walked, she walked equally. The Good tegadalai marched, she marched equally. The Good tegadalai battled, she battled. The Good tegadalai climbed hills, cliffs and mountains; she climbed hills, cliffs and mountains. The Good tegadalai descended valleys and gorges, she descended valleys and gorges. The Good tegadalai crossed river floods, she crossed river floods. The Good tegadalai got bites from snakes and scorpions; she got bites from snakes and scorpions. The Good tegadalai got malaria, she got malaria. The Good tegadalai was swarmed by lice, she was swarmed by lice. The good tegadalai tightened his belt, she tightened her belt. The Good tegadalai shaved or cut his hair; she shaved or cut her long, lustrous and beautiful hair. The Good tegadalai got wounded, she got wounded. The Good tegadalai stoically suffered from thirst and hunger, she stoically and bravely suffered from thirst and hunger. The Good tegadalai became disabled, she became disabled. The Good tegadalai died, she died. The Good Tegadalai paid dearly with his one and only life; she paid dearly with her one and only life.

But there was one exception, an exception that no Good man has to go through in his entire life. Through the entire shared and collective difficult and tragic journey, the Good tegadalai did not have to deal with painful menstrual periods. The Good tegadalai did not have to carry baby in his womb. The Good tegadalai did not have to suffer from the king of pains: labor and delivery. But she did.

The Good tegadalit did it and she did it with Courage and Perfection. The good tegadalit did it with selflessness. The Good tegadalit did it with True Love and True Service for her family –The Eritrea Family.

Along the way the Good girl mimicked the land, a land that does not provide much; a rugged and jagged landscape; a land that required resilience and bottomless patience. Even in Sahel she made it, a land that resembles Mars and not Earth.

As painful as it was, when the Good tegadalit had to leave her baby behind in the camp to fulfill her call of duty in the front, even though it was Heart wrenching for a Good mother to separate from her baby, she obeyed for she accepted that her child was Eritrea and Eritrea was her child. Who Mother could do this?

What was the Good tegadalit worth?

Is there a price tag for her Herculean achievements? I don’t believe so and if there is I do not have the brain to Qualify, Quantify, Calculate and Tabulate the exact and fair worth or the full price of her service. Like King David said, if the sky was my BRANA, and the OCEANS my ink, even this will not suffice to describe her marvelous, incredible and selfless History.

And here I leave you with the following marvelous sayings from Good and Famous people:

A free race cannot be born of slave mothers. – Margaret Sanger.

Woman is the companion of man, gifted with equal mental capacity. – Gandhi.

Women are the real architects of society. – Harriet Beecher Stowe.

With deep and everlasting Love and Peace to the Good Tegadalit.

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  • Dis Donc

    Dear Hope et al,

    Most people come here to teach and few come here to learn. I and Amde come here to obseve. Abinet is 50% to observe, 25% to learn and rest for anger. So, I find myself observing people losing themselves in little things. That tells me that, these days, this site is highly politcally charged and divisive. That is not bad in itself except that most come here to channel their anger. I have no political will and believe in majority. Meaning democracy and competition. If IA wants to stay in power then he has to ask the people while competing. If the Ethiopians want to come back then they need to convince the people.

    Let me also tell you why I do not want to have a quarrel with Derasiw Abu and Sir Amde. My mom found life unbearable in Sudan and went to Ethiopia and settled in trading between Ambo and Addis. You can imagine in those days we had to go through many problems. Hardships were untold. On all occassions we were supported by the “urbanite” Ethiopians. People of Abinet’s and Amde’s ilk. Even during the deprtation while the ethnic based folks sat and watched the butcherings and deportations of Eritreans these urbanites tried their best to hide and save some. Sadly though, these urbanites find themselves in the margins of society in the current Ethiopian setup.

    • Kim Hanna

      Selam Dis Donc,
      .
      I am a little rushed, I read it only twice.
      It is a powerful statement.
      I hope you stay at this University and keep contributing your 2, no 3 cents.
      .
      Mr. K.H

    • tes

      Dear Dis Donc,

      It is good to remember also anger needs to be dissipated through various means. If it happen people come here to channel their anger, just consider it as a blessing for having such a medium.

      From your previous comment I learned that you have come electromagnetism courses. And what then I can confidently conclude is that you have ample knowledge on how like and unlike charges work in the world of electromagnetism so that a required field of electro-magnetic forces can be generated.

      Try to use your critical observation for good ends. It is through proper channeling mechanism/medium of anger that politics charged. For this Obama was not wrong to invite his anger interpretor.

      What do you think?

      tes

      • Dis Donc

        Dear Tes,

        Perhaps you right in that some of these guys are here to make noises and not for series debating. God only knows that the country needs it very badly.

  • Hooe

    …people like …

  • Meda Ethiopia

    Hi Mr. Aynetta
    Your language is filthy
    “” the girl will never forget ”
    “someone comes to your house”
    Is this what March 8 all about
    *I am retaining my real Nick”

    • Ayneta

      Meda Ethiopia:
      My apology if I offended you with my language. I am just sick and tired of people who rush to mute anyone who dare criticize the ruling party in Eritrea…..tezaribom yezarubuka…..

  • Music Novice

    Greetings Nitricc,

    You are asking him to go and fight? God have mercy, you are asking for trouble!

    The chap needs few bottles to get Dutch courage to write on this forum. If he is to go and fight, for starters, he will demand a supply of barrels of booze. Can you afford that?

  • Kokhob Selam

    Dear Hope,
    I love this one “Ferrah Aserte Betru” . it takes great heroism to stand with truth and for truth. I don’t believe and never believe Eritrea had and have an enemy more than PFDJ. but I don’t support Ethiopia to bomb my nation. I will not describe you “Ferrah”. I don’t know you – why should. writing here don’t really conform if you are hero or not especially when you just live in democratic nation supporting PFDJ but only question mark if you have done some wrong deeds. I don’t know. may be you are just passing your time, otherwise how can you support PFDJ.

  • Music Novice

    Greetings Ayneta,

    You are an attention seeker and you seem to be self-absorbed. You wanted to reply to Gheteb, but you did nor click reply to his post, instead you chose to post separately in order to stand out. What does this show? You are here to be in the limelight only.

    • ‘Gheteb

      Selam Music Novice,
      Man! You are killing me here, literally! I am on the floor rolling in the aisles with a belly laugh. Again, you have point-blankly hit the target and I couldn’t agree with you more.
      Ayneta is a rebarbative character who has been in and out of my “to be ignored list” and now here he is throwing a temper tantrum, as you said, just “to be in the limelight”.
      Man! I am still in stitches!
      Thanks for the laugh and for such an astutely witty response, Music Novice!

  • ‘Gheteb

    Hi Nitricc,

    Never mind the village bumpkin, Tes. He can’t help it as he is nothing more than a confused person.

    What you got to remember from the annals of Ghedli is that there these ex-ELF fighters who ushered the demise of ELF, Jebha, by being members of the “Falul” movement ( The Anarchist Movement).

    There were also members of this anarchist movement which were known as Dugaaul Falul ( ድጓል ፋሉል) or in English crypto-anarchists.

    As this Falulite movement expedited the defeat of the ELF, its former members are now working hand in glove with the Weyanes to bring an end to Eritrea as a free and sovereign state.

    If you are thinking that ኣባ ጓይላ ክተዕ, Amanuel Hidrat is one of those Falulites, your thinking is within the ballpark.

  • Music Novice

    Greetings Hope,

    He is bitter and jealous of anything he has not been part of; for example Eritrea being a sovereign nation.

    • Abi

      Hi Music
      The recruits of Ato Amanuel brought you independence. If he did not recruit them, mobilize them, send them to meda, armed them with the armaments he received when he was the receiver at port Sudan, the independent / sovereign nation you call Eritrea would never been materialized.

      • Music Novice

        Greetings Abi,

        You are mistaken. His recruits did a runner, and are now trying to resurrect their careers after being in a coma for more than 3 decades. So far, they have only managed to show bravado on internet forums. What a terrible fate!

      • Ted

        Hi Abi, as much as you made us believe your love for Tiqure women, i am disappointed you came short in appreciating this splendid article celebrating everything women. What is up, does everything has to be political with you. It is weekend and stay away from Melti-Multi-functioning;-)
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVmDmS3h1J4

      • Merebmlash

        It is been Quarter a century since the ultimate sielence, but no more now. We are responsible for the change.

  • tes

    Dear Nitricc,

    Do you know that you are my favorite Awatista? You are because I am glad to have a mindset that reflects exactly what the PFDJ cult followers are upto.

    Coming to your point:

    The only wise youth Eritrea has so far owned is my generation. The way PFDJ treated us had only two options:

    1. To indulge into a civil war by turning the gun we carried against our elder brothers and fathers
    2. To leave them alone until they have gone for good.

    Till now our choice seems number two. But the trend we live into looks to drive us into civil war that our fathers experienced in the 1970s and early 1980s.

    As for Mahmud Saleh, I am not challenging for what he did during his ghedli period but now. And for the respect, as I told you before, you not credited to tell me. First and foremost respect dead body.

    tes

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Nitrickay,

    Because we were in the ghedli, it does not mean everything what we do and argue are correct. our Ghedli has its own sins. So when the young generation like Nitrickay, tes, Solomon and others debate on the current issue we can not belittle them because they were not in the ghedli. What has to do being tegadalay in the national movement, with the current issue? Why do you say to tes “do an ounce of what they have done”? Should you have to be in the ghedli of the past, in order to debate the current issue? No Nitrickay. You could appreciate what they have done to the creation of the nation, but not to supersede the current issue by the past contribution.

  • Solomon Haile

    Selamat Mr. Akhlilu Zere
    Bit by Bit
    Mareley,BM: “Lets do it little by little”
    Shortly after the 1978 strategic withdrawal (“Strategicawi MzlaQue), Nineteen Flowers decided to cross the border and head back East to save Ghedli. Amongst them were, Gual Yfter, Aster, Tsigereda, MHret,… and later WeiniHareg. Years later in the mid Nineties, at some of the early evenings bun sessions while paying attention at the children’s ruckus I would hear “Grandma” tell the story of how their mother was sent away to Sahel’s Zero school as she is the oldest of the three for the task of “picking up the arms of the fallen Tegadalit.” The kindergartener returned ofcourse…
    Mr. Akhlilu perhaps add to the women who were born, educated and raised INSIDE Ghedli as an addition to who described.
    As a contrarian I do not at all mind the contrarians. And so in the meantime it is open season for the contrarians such as the “Ambasadors”, “Saays”, Dawitists of “Dawitism”, the Amanuels and MNovice’s etc…
    In the Tigrigna language it is the month of the “Feeder”/Megabit…. The “Mole” MaHmud aka Mr. Honest will tell me the Tigrait translation of March.
    Happy March 8th.
    tSAtSE

  • T..T.

    Hi all,

    Hayat Adem said, “The only attack I wanted to take place is with a goal of putting IA and his group out of action.” According to the Eritrean opposition strategists, one of the four components essentials for achieving success against the tyrant is focusing on the primary enemy of the Eritrean people and using surgical tweezers to remove the cancer. Only the pro-civil war elements are against her suggested solution.

  • ‘Gheteb

    Cogito. Ergo, Factum Est (I Think. Therefore, It Happened).

    Selam All,

    TPLF’s emissary to Planet Illogic, Hayat Adem, is under the illusion that the TPLF’s Air Force has attacked The Hirgigo Power Plant in Eritrea. As of yet, there has been NO confirmation of such an attack to have taken place. I mean, zero, nada, cipher and NULL of confirmation about this particular incidence.

    But, now Hayat Adem “THINKS” that ” The attack happened and I think you know it”. NO. I don’t know that “the attack happened”. How can one know something that has NOT transpired? How can Hayat Adem know what ‘Gheteb knows or what ‘Gheteb doesn’t know. Simply put, what Hayat Adem is claiming is akin to an epistemological impossibility.

    What Hayat Adem et al. are claiming is a result of a wishful thinking. Wishing and daydreaming that their TPLF’s Air Force will attack Eritrea and thereby make their dreams, er, their pipedreams of seeing the end of Eritrea as a free and sovereign state come to an end.

    Consequently, it comes as no surprise that Hayat Adem and co. have been mightily trying to paint this
    trompe l’oeil of an attack that never happened and of an attempt of trying to give a complete fiction an appearance of fact.

    I say this is definitely a result of ‘Cogito. Ergo, Factum Est (I Think. Therefore, It Happened)’.

    • Dis Donc

      Dear Gheteb,

      Can you write it again in English please?

      • ‘Gheteb

        Hi Dis Donc,

        I mean no disrespect to you, DD, here. It is written in English. If it is beyond your ken, I am very sorry that there is nothing much I can do to help you here. After all, this Forum is not an ESL* class.

        Maybe you should read posts that are within your comprehension level. Otherwise, I would like to remind you that being or acting like a gadfly doesn’t endear you in my eyes at all and is a sure-fire way to get you into my list of those who are to be SEVERELY ignored!

        * ESL — English as a Second Language

        • Amde

          Selam Gheteb,

          Thank you for the laugh. “SEVERELY ignored!” is one of the funnier things I have read in a while.

          Amde

          • dawit

            A mde,
            could this mean ignoring those people who may be severely mentally sick habitually lie and distort historical facts?

          • Amde

            dawit,

            No it could mean no severity is required in ignoring someone. “Severely” is a word that connotes active effort. Whereas for most humans, ignoring is a passive act – requiring no effort. Seeing Gheteb demonstrate “SEVERELY ignore” would be a worthy stage act I would pay good money for. Hence the humor in it.

            For example, I find ignoring you quite enjoyable. Even relaxing in fact. So relaxing that I find I need no additional effort to jump in and not ignore you. Like when you post incomprehensible drivel like this one.

            Try to severely ignore me if you wish. Ask Gheteb how it is done.

            Amde

          • tes

            Dear Amde,

            Aha, you broke Gheteb’s latin into

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Amde,
            .
            Yes, not only would I pay, but I would pay twice as much for the show. I hope I am one of those recipients of his “severely ignore” treatment. What a hit show it would be.
            .
            I didn’t mind pinching, pulling his ears and giving him deserved “KURKUM” in response to some of his posts, he is my virtual punching bag. He volunteered. I am not exactly proud of this trait in me.
            .
            I have to look around after a chuckle escapes me, whenever I begin to respond to his posts.
            He reminds of the character that my parents throw a stern look at towards me and explain later that I should not make fun of someone nature had deformed. I know this is harsh, but what he tries to say is harsh too.
            .
            Mr. K.H

        • Dis Donc

          Dear Gheteb,
          Uuuh, I am scared! Geez, man; don’t you get the wise crack?

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Dear DD,

        Why are you interested on him, whether he writes in English or Latin? After all, no substance whatsoever in his comment. He is not here to convince the public with factual arguments, he is here to defend the regime by disparaging with his derogatory languages to anyone who oppose the regime. Speaking of the “wise crack”, he was unfortunately trained to be the antidote of it.

        regards
        Amanuel Hidrat

        • Music Novice

          Greetings Amanuel H.,

          You are mistaken in your judgement.

          Gheteb is only asking you to establish whether the claimed attack is fact or fiction or a wish. Simple.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam MN,

            So you welcome Gheteb’s disparaging words to DD. As the saying goes, Birds of the same feather flocks together. But…But, DD is by far better in the ordinary and conventional English usage as practiced in the academic world, if you try to make a contrast between the two. Just a note to you and him. Idea matters matters my dear brother, and gheteb has non at all.

            regards,
            Amanuel Hidrat

          • Music Novice

            Greetings Amanuel H.,

            ” Birds of the same feather …”

            There is also another saying which goes: There are two types of people in the World. Those who come through the front door and those who come through the back door.”

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Greeting MN (to use your way of saluting, just for you only)

            Meaning? a little elaboration please, though I could guess it. A one liner comment could have many meaning.

          • ‘Gheteb

            Selam Music Novice,

            Never mind the harrumphing of ኣባ ጓይላ ክተዕ, Amanuel Hidrat. I have told this character in no uncertain terms that he DOES NOT belong in my league. Instead of accepting my views of him, he has been following me like my shadow in each and every of my engagement. He unfailingly does one thing, which is to cheer all my interlocutors, make a heckling comment against me and declare that I lost the debate.

            Now, inquiring minds would want to know why ኣባ ጓይላ ክተዕ, Amanuel Hidrat, is in such a high dudgeon against ‘Gheteb? Well, that is one of the effects of being SEVERELY ignored.

            Not only ኣባ ጓይላ ክተዕ, Amanuel Hidrat, we can see the consequence of being SEVERELY ignored in non other than the two denizens of Planeta Abyssinicus, Made and Kim Hanna. These are the adherents of the anachronistically antedelluvian political outlook otherwise known as Abyssinian Fundamentalism. While Made has described Eritreans with a “deformed identity”, Kim Hanna is now sayin that ‘Gheteb ” … is someone nature has deformed”.

            Made is a relic wants to cover his Abyssinian fundamentalist views by spouting terms and words from the “Marxist” Dergue era such as “reactionary” — ኣድሃሪ–

            , Kim Hanna comes across as a resident of a half-way house.

            Well, what else can I say save to state that such is the severe effects of being SEVERELY ignored by ‘Gheteb !

            Finally, ኣባ ጓይላ ክተዕ, Amanuel Hidrat, is helplessly and utterly discombobulated by being SEVERELY ignored by non other than ‘Gheteb!

          • Music Novice

            Greetings Gheteb,

            The cheer leading roles of Amanuel H., the born-again democrat and former ELF member, seems to fit in well with his grand ambition of grabbing power through the back door.

          • Amde

            Gheteb,

            I admit to both your accusations.

            That I am a proud Abyssinian Fundamentalist. You should try it.
            That you are a reactionary.

            Although I don’t remember ever uttering the phrase “deformed identity” when discussing Eritrea and Eritreans. Just not my style.

            Amde

        • Dis Donc

          Dear Amanuel,

          I was only observing the fact that it is a regurgitation of no idea. An average reader simply gets lost in his maze of words floating around the page/s. As he pointedly stated, I am not in his mould and I do not understand what he writes, anyways. So, I rarely read him. Even this one I only read the first few lines and lost interest in it. That is not to say his ideas are not good or bad, simply I am not that good in his English. I like simply written paragraphs in a simple way.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear DD,

            No brother, you could be. Anyone who is an average in English can do it what he is doing. Just have the regular English dictionary and latin dictionary on your side and play the game he is playing. But what is worth of doing it, if there is no idea in it and the public ignores you as empty barrel with heaps of words unknown to the ordinary Eritrean people. None at all. So if he said not in my club to you , it is simply self-congratulatory and self aggrandizement only. Those kinds of people are not in the hearts and minds of Eritrean people. Period. So good to you not to be in his club.

            regards,
            Amanuel Hidrat

        • Peace!

          Dear Emma,

          What Gheteb is saying the claim made by Hayat Adem did not happen. Aren’ you happy the bombing didn’t take place? ደላይ ሰላም ከምዝከማኻ up vote ክትገብሮ ምተገበኣካ ወላስ?

          Peace!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear Peace,

            I don’t live on the consumption of unconfirmed news, and I don’t engage based on unconfirmed news. I think you might be one of the drum bitters on the border war of 1998, and I wasn’t. I was against that senseless border war telling them as it is in their meeting. And I won’t support for another of that type senseless war. I don’t like your suspicious demeanor and it won’t help you.

          • Peace!

            Hi Emma,

            Emma! You just made a blurry comment and I asked you to clarify it, that’s all! No reason for shenkolel.

            Peace!

          • ‘Gheteb

            Selam Peace!

            There is no need for mincing words here. Of course, ኣባ ጓይላ ክተዕ, Amanuel Hidrat, wants and prays that such an attack to have happened and The Hirgigo Power Plant to be in ashes so that he can blame the PFDJ.

            Wasn’t the same ኣባ ጓይላ ክተዕ, Amanuel Hidrat, who has been campaigning a back door diplomacy for The Weyanes in this Forum? I mean he has been consistently encouraging some Forumers to participate and conduct a dialogue with The Weyanes EPRDF.

            He said that he is capable of arranging such kind of meeting. Ergo,ኣባ ጓይላ ክተዕ, Amanuel Hidrat , is nothing more than a hired Eritrean hand in the services of the detestable Weaynes.

            In my book, ኣባ ጓይላ ክተዕ, Amanuel Hidrat, is a fifth-columnist two-timer!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear Peace,

            Didn’t I tell you this guy hasn’t any value of decency and respect in his gene? look he brought himself about the attack that hasn’t any credibility or any merits as news worth and asked people to comment on it. When people ignored him, as a loser, he went on to personal attack and Mudslinging. Not only he is a loser, he is also coward who doesn’t trust even his own shadow. Instill him the Eritrean guts that has displayed for generations before he talks about Eritrea and Eritreans. Talking about the heroic Eritreans is one thing, to have a gut and be heroic is another thing. Tell him this basic Eritrean basic truth.

          • tes

            Selamat Gheteb,

            I know I am one of these severely ignored but here is my response to you.

            I think you are just stating unsaid things. be it Amanuel Hidrat, Hayat Adem or else in this forum, have never put a line that mentions the word “Hirgigo power plant” let alone supporting war.

            Don’t therefore accuse on unsaid statements.

            Plus, you seem that you have found new Tigrigna terminology, “ኣባ ጓይላ ክተዕ”. Congratulations.

            tes

          • Amde

            Tes,

            you forgot to capitalize the “SEVERELY”.

          • tes

            Dear Amde,

            Haha, I read that use of capital letters is for those who shout LOUDLY. hence I preferred to use small letter.

            Amde, I don’t know why he spelled your nickname as Made? Can you develop some theory on it?

            tes

          • Amde

            tes,

            I think his device keeps autocorrecting to Made. Others also have that problem.. dawit for example goes to the trouble of putting a space between “A” and “mde” for that reason. Honestly, I appreciate the courtesy. I suspect it only happens when people use their smart phones.

            As to capitalizing, I know it is rude to shout but the joke is funnier when he is yelling that he will “SEVERELY ignore” you. I don’t think he has one scintilla of humor in him though.

            Amde

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Peace, I asked if the news we are hearing is true or not, here in awate. this is the 3rd time I tested your group. for asking this information every corrupted mind visualize Kokhob Selam is the war plane pilot. Deep inside every corrupted there is one truth paining them and are not willing to accept.

            who is really anti peace? the one who supporters PFDJ and hates Ethiopians and who wants to see in mess or the one who wants PFDJ corrected? if someone is loyal to his party, he should evaluate every now – but if some one is acting as loyal to one party and is terrorized by other parties and views he has something hidden – justice is his enemy and he has some problem – most probably he has committed some crime.

            why the mass is against PFDJ? because they want peace and freedom not because they want war and slavery. no single man or women can support war among human beings.

            unfortunately, those supporters are the once who are supporting even war instead of watching justice in Eritrea. Supporting PFDJ is hopeless choice of those with bad personal history and they don’t have problem if people are sinking in oceans or of Ethiopia bomb Eritrean people.

            If the war broke I want you to be right in Eritrea and I am promising you as soon as you land I will be there.– I want to see you guys there.

          • Peace!

            Ahlen Kokobai (amu)

            I thought you were with us that you do not support an attack on Eritrea by Weyane, aren’t you? Be brave and take a stand.

            Peace!

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Peace,
            sometime on the journey you meet with some one but for different reasons. I am against attack from both sides. my main reason is because experience has shown me war is the last thing to chose only for defense – when everything else fails to take you to land of peace again war of this category only first may prolong the life of my nations dictator while expands hate among the two brotherly people. worst of all none of corrupted supporters and their leadership will die but beloved mass of the two nations. I am against PFDJ system because it attracts war..I mean PFDJ works against peace of the two nations. so, I don’t only oppose the attack by Ethiopians but I also oppose PFDJ’s evil actions inside Ethiopia. I now you ask me evidence, I will also ask the same but I will give more percentage for the clam of EPRDF as I have first hand experience how PFDJ group works. if they kill their own people why not others?

            Now, why are you against war? is that for the same reason? or is that because you want PFDJ to be there leading with out system and disturbing Ethiopians using the opposition?

          • Peace!

            Selam amu,

            እንታይ ዳኣ እዛ ኮመንትኻ ሕቦጭቦጭ ጌርካያ ኩሉ ብሓንሳብ ኣብ ሐደ ድሰቲ ኣእቲኻዬ: I think it is very clear and simple that when it comes to a foreign agression the issue authomatically becomes a sovereign issue which all citizens have the responsibility, regardless differences on internal issues, to defend the country. It is very unfortunate that we found ourselfs in a situation where either way is hell: PFDJ and opposition groups. To me the issue is no longer between pro PFDJ and pro justice seekers/opposition groups, but rather between those who accept Eritrea as an independent nation and those who don’t, which obviously I strongly REJECT the latter.

            Peace!

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Peace,

            Ha ha ha, you are right. actually it is strange some are not understanding the first problem causes the other and it is always the same all over our history. See, we keep only blaming left and right not to accept our short comings

            you know peace, our case was never been from out side. Never! even the history you hear about our confederation was not from Ethiopians. it was our own problem. Small ISIS was also there to support Hailslsase killing people who rejected it. it was never UN, or US it was internal problem. we Eritreans fail always to solve our internal problem. and do you know who pay for it, the innocent mass. This time we have to solve it. no one among those coward supporters should tell me how to fight external enemy where I am proud of. there are thousands of Eritreans in front line waiting for external enemy who forgot ordinary happy life for nothing. some thought it is true..it is like putting your hand on the hen for sometime and take it slowly. the poor hen thinks your hand is on her body and never move…

            EPRDF seldom talk about our anti peace leadership and they keep doing their homework. but our leadership keep talking day and night about Weyane US, and all the world. No rule of law and work nothing. we don’t want to accept this reality and Eritrea is almost failing to sustain and continue as nation. We are not going to allow this to continue. This nation should be free and it starts within each of us.

            blaming PFDJ or one man is not enough, removing them is not enough we have to remove the block that we accustomed now. not bloody war is necessary against each other, nor with others…we need to fight the old programmed mind.

        • Hope

          Emma an DD
          I think the person on question is entitled to his opinion and writing skills .
          What is this passing judgement,FUSS and Gossip about?

          Emma;
          With all due respect,Sir your acting below your status including your age and Profession.
          Debate and challenge his ideas not his persona!

          But if you think that he does not have ideas,well,then ignore him.

          But the fact that you keep gossiping about him tells me that he is serious somebody !

          What a shame!

          DD:
          Your “discriminatory” stand is unreasonable!
          At least you should attempt to advise Abi to respect Eritrea and ERITREANS !
          Who cares about his old-Gonderie -styled Amharic Poems?
          It has no role of meaning in our ERITREAN business.
          We do not Amharic Poems here but obstructive debate on Peaceful Co-Existence and Regional Reconciliation and Economic Integration,which the Abi et are interested other than belittling and joking about Eritrea and ERITREANS,which for you is a great fun and entertainment.
          Well,enjoy him, it is for FRE,lucky you!

          • Abi

            Hope gerageru
            Endemin aderu?
            What peaceful coexistence you preaching on a Sunday morning? No! No! No!
            We never coexist. You exist under Mama Ethipian rule . That is where you flourish, achieving higher and higher…
            Anyway, we are coming to do it . This time it is for lasting peace. Stalin kind of ruling is the way to do it.
            Beje chebche
            Begre regche
            Aynen afTche
            Torsen afachiche
            Hopyen abesawun lasayew
            Fesun gumm lasmeslew.

          • Hope

            Abi:
            Throw that trash into a trash can.

          • Abi

            Hope jigna
            That is exactly what I did.

      • Peace!

        Dear DD,

        I am not good in English either, but I can read him pretty well. But seriously though given this is an open forum, focusing on substance is what we need to enrich the debate rather than trying to undermine someone else’s intelligence. Be fair please!

        Of course you just read what Gheteb is saying the bombing claim made by Hayat Adem didn’t take place, or at least no one has confirmed it; therefore Hay Adem is a liar.

        Peace!

        • ‘Gheteb

          Selam Peace!

          DD’s main issue was not about my English. No it wasn’t. He let the cat out of the bag in his response to ኣባ ጓይላ ክተዕ, Amanuel Hidrat.

          First he wants to find an escape route by saying that it was a “wise crack”, but he divulged the real reason by saying ” I was only observing the fact that it is a regurgitation of no idea. An average reader simply gets lost in his maze of words floating around ….. “.

          I can sniff out DD and his ilks from far away. I think Music Novice aptly described DD’s ideas or thinking as “half-baked”. While I think that Music Novice’s depiction is germane, I would describe DD’s notions and thinking as “half-fried” in line with his declared profession of a fried chicken peddler.

          • Dis Donc

            Dear Gheteb,

            Jesus, man are you on drugs? Finally you are writing simple now so that people can understand you. I am a proud fried chicken man. I have no problem with that Sir. I think you should let somethings go otherwise you are showing your true colors. The whole thing was a wise crack about your writing about nothing. If you find that half baked then hurrah for me. I hold nothing against you. As I wrote it before that you are better than me in every sense. You are a chosen race and a superman. This, I mean it!!!!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Hi DD,

            You gave him a galloping horse to run all over the forum. He will take the “chosen race and superman” as an accolade that no Eritrean man is par to him. He will not even take it as sarcastic retort intended to avoid him. Anyway, his reputation is damaged by his daily innuendo and bad mouthing. He is a disguised man who sound and yet seem unrecovered from his fear of the “Tall tale story of deki Hidertena”, narrated at his young age.

            regards,

          • Dis Donc

            Dear Amnuel,

            I once took an electromagnetism class in a university. A German professor of mine gave me a C grade after solving Maxwell’s equation. When I asked him why he told me that the answer is correct and so are your first and second derivations and integrations. However after that only you know what you did.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear DD,

            Do not be soft for this guy. Use your hardball and at time if needed apply his language right at his forehead. Aboy Mewal Mebrahtu- a patriot (rest in peace) use to say “for street boys use their language because that the language they understand”. So for this dude nothing makes him at bay except hitting him back by his language.

            regards,
            Amanuel Hidrat

          • Dis Donc

            Dear Amanuel,

            They all know I am here to debate. If they have the will I am here anytime. The only persons I do not want to debate will be Derasiw Abi and Sir Amde. I have too much respect for them and their writings.

          • Ayneta

            DD:
            tell me that was a joke.

          • Lamek

            *ክትዕ. DD is off duty. From yours truly, trying to escape the SEVERELY ignored camp.

        • Dis Donc

          Dear Peace,

          There is nothing more to say here, please. I was only telling him to write in an easy and simple English. I am sure that you can read and write well better than me. That I have no doubt. And so does him. I rarely read his and many other writing simply because they confuse me and in the end I find nothing important, really. But that is me and that is my view. If he does not like my view then he will either have to try hard to convince me or not try at all. This website is dedicated for public consumption and if people do not like your writings or your style then they won’t read them. There is nothing more to it….

          • Ayneta

            DD:
            You are a good person, but a bit too soft.

          • Dis Donc

            Dear Ayneta,

            Our problems are not going to go away by insulting each other over the net. While some come here to show their analytical skills, debating skills, or their language skills Eritrea is decending into a one man land. Moreover, lately this site has been decending into chaos. I do not think it was intended that way but for ideas and ideas exchange and debates only. Otherwise this site will lose following. Remember that there is a place to fight and other nasty stuff and this site ain’t it. I wish people see it that way.

  • Haile WM

    dear Aklilu Zere,

    thanks for this poetic and powerful writing, I am a big fun of your writings and I’d hope to read more of yours. Your respect of our women is an example and model to our society and future generations to come. My favorite of all your articles is “What Italian Colonialism Did To My People Of Eritrean Kebessa”.

    thanks again

  • tes

    Dear Aklilu Zere,

    It is a special gift reading you after such a long awaited 8 seasons. Since I first read your comments? I started to open your archives at Branna.

    In this article, though I agree with your narration and excelling the right momentum of the good tegadalit during the Ghedli era, I would like to express my concern on the way you treated the narration. While reading between lines, one that stroke me hard and push my inner conscience is here:

    1. “For the Good girl boredom was non-existent commodity. She could not run away for running away was tantamount to suicide and worse, dehumanization. She had no say. She had no right to disobey. She had no freedom. She had no room to wiggle. She had no time to rest. She cannot refuse. Absolute obedience, attention, readiness for punishment, concentration, and retention of what she learnt was her only salvation.

    When I read these lines here are what I wanted to break into:

    a. She had no say
    b. She had no right to disobey.
    c. She had no freedom
    d. She had no room to wiggle.
    e. She had no time to rest
    f. She cannot refuse
    g. Absolute
    g.1 Obedience,
    g.2 Attention,
    g.3 Readiness for
    g.3.1 Punishment,
    g.3.2 Concentration,
    g.3.3 Retention
    …. of what she learnt was her only salvation.
    This bisection between your lines is something that we can trace and track on the current treatment of our women by PFDJ. Even back to the Ghedli days, though women constituted 30% of the total fighters proportions, not a single woman was on the political bureau of EPLF (out of 13). If not a single woman was not present, your narration perfectly fits. They were all end receivers. They were yes to political bureau men. They [women] didn’t discuss what concerns them by sitting side by side with their equal men. They simply did what they were supposed to do without raising their point. They thought that EPLF political bureau was right on them.

    And you went further to make your silent argument:

    2. “Mind you- the Good boys were spared of all these shackles that were singularly and directly imposed upon the Good girl.”

    Yah, the Good boys imposed a political system that women were not that much able to synthesize. They [Good boys] manipulated the Good tegadalit and never entertained welcoming her to be part of their meetings.

    Today, we have direct impact of the Good tegadalit but to an opposite ends. Our mothers, when PFDJ took their beloved kids they didn’t resist. And when their kids cried, they didn’t resist. And when they died in sea and their body organs harvested our women didn’t resist. They just took it as their salvation.

    Now, my argument is: how strong is the good tegadalit in terms of politics? Is her absolute obedience part of her politics or part of the oppression imposed by her by the Good boys?

    Post script:

    If you gave me a chance to change the title of your article, I could have put it as: “The Submissive Tegadalit” and everything that later comes as Good be changed as such.

    tes

    + I am asking what the Good boys stands for?

    • Tzigereda

      Dear Tes,
      I disagree respectfully with your suggestion of ” The submissive Tegadalit”, this is not only a misinterpretation of the article but also an insult of The tegadalit. WE were NEVER submissive! There are many things to be critized of Ghedli, but your thesis is just out of order. Kekem bah zibelekum iba aytelaKUna!

      • tes

        Dear Tzigereda,

        I understand from which angle you are coming and I fully concur with you. However there are lines that need to be put while discussing on women tegadelti issue.

        When I meditiate on women tegadelti, I usually divide it into two lines.

        1. Their fight against Ethiopian annexation.
        2. Their fight for their rights.

        Now, as Aklilu Zere described them eloquently, the Good tegadalit belongs to the first category. They stood tall when they fight against Ethiopian occupation. For this what they did is yet untold story to Eritreans of our time.

        On the second line, a line that I am coming from and wanted to elavate the debate on our Good tegadalit’s’s role, it can be well described as “The Submissive Tegadalit”.

        My argument is: If tegadalit was not so submissive to the EPLF political bureau, her voice could be on the surface now when her kids are forced to flee the country. The then submissive tagadalit is now again a submissive woman. It is because of her submissive behaviour that it let her own kids are leaving home in drains.

        Ok, do not counter think that it is the dictatorial PFDJ nature for all. I am bringing this obvious counter defense of the big circle to break-down the complex nature of women’s issue within the PFDJ political culture.

        tes

        tes

        • Mahmud Saleh

          Dearest tes
          In that regard, Eritreans, as all politico-culturally underdeveloped societies, lack the tools of asserting their rights. Political contrarianism and fighting for individuals and groups’ rights are part and parcel of the overall societal strive to progress. We as a whole are not yet where we would want to be. Even after the demise of PFDJ, this area will need a lot of work. It’s a process. Therefore, in that regard, I was badly equipped to raise many of the questions and how I would want to pose them; and many others also were and are in similar shape. Case in point: look at the opposition. Take each of the organizations. They are still led by individuals who have been in the scene as long as IA led Eritrea. Women’s and youth participation? Dismal. Therefore, I would tend to be honest with this issue. You can’t have women exemplifying a unique role when all around is subdued. In addition, one can ask, why women? Why don’t you condemn all participants of that era. The politburo you are referring to remained the same (except excluding some members). All in all there was no dynamism in it. Therefore, if their male comrades were demanding their rights and the women kept quiet, then your argument could hold water. Why people were not demanding for change and reshuffling of leadership, hence, demanding an inclusive and dynamic organizational political interaction? Then you will have to study Eritrean society and the ideologies that led ghedli in that era. Because, you can’t just cherry-pick enormous socio-political issue without giving it a due context. Cherry-picking sentences and words are easy here in this forum, but not in addressing huge social issues. I know you can’t get that from PFDJ cadre school. Make it up now by reading folks like Aklilu Zere and Tzigereda.

          • tes

            Dear Mahmud Saleh,

            I will forgive you always when you try to attack my personality simply because I am not as you are trying to portray me. Look to Abi’s case: he tried to attack me on personal nehaviour that I don’t possess. Oj, I can ignore Abi as he is Ethiopian that has no business on our internal issues. For you, I won’t do that. You are raising issues that matters me personally at political level not personal though. And hence always forgive, when you attack me through your dismissive means.

            Ok back to your argument:

            As I told you repeatedly, listen to our cry first before going to silence us. Though in this comment you calmed down and read my argument somehow openly, my objective was not to question the Good tegadalit’s heroism. I am into the level (to my capacity) and you have constantly told me that I have that potential to do so, of asking questions that matters us most as people. Ok you are one generation ahead of me and I won’t expect you questioning societal problems but this is the point you made:

            We as a whole are not yet where we would want to be. Even after the demise of PFDJ, this area will need a lot of work. It’s a process.

            Then, what is the problem, if I, as a person, am into the level of where I wanted to be?

            Here I am not a socialist and I believe on individuals’s mind that might have a capability to change generations. And asking questions that are supposed insane by the majority is nothing but a blessing when it comes.

            Aren’t you the one who is constantly reminding me about my potential? Why are you then trying to blackmail my arguments as if I am a spoiled rat?

            For God’s sake, be a good person, ok, this is my word for you. Just be a good person and don’t go personal.

            Coming back again:

            here is what you put:

            Therefore, in that regard, I was badly equipped to raise many of the questions and how I would want to pose them; and many others also were and are in similar shape.

            Then have you ever thought on others who believe that they are in a better position to ask such question? Or you wanted us to stay idle until you became in good forms? Think about this! There are individual or group of people who are in good shape to ask such questions.

            You didn’t stop there:

            Here is another point you put:

            You can’t have women exemplifying a unique role when all around is subdued.

            Haha, then, you are telling me that everything is messed and let them be messed-up until all are not. This is funny way of collective thinking that is killing you until now since your inscription to the EPLF. Mahmduday, I don’t know how much your brain was damaged by such collective thinking imagining that for the last 22 years you lived in USA, a country where individual thinking is so prominent?

            On other thing that really put me sad is this:

            Then you will have to study Eritrean society and the ideologies that led ghedli in that era

            Dear Mahmud, don’t you acknowledge that there are people who devoted their struggle to study the ideologies that led ghedli? I am not doing it through formal education system but that is my subject of interest. I am all for the ghedli and now the PFDJ ideology. My central focus is on this subject and my argument with you that has always lead me into fierce resistance is simple because I see in you the ghedli ideology in its pure form. Acknowledge that and then you won’t go down on attacking me at personal level.

            Ok, you are saying so many things about my cadre school. Let me tell you this: had I now joined that school I couldn’t be so enlightened on what an ideology is. Thanks for allowing me to study there. Now I am using the knowledge and revelation I got at that time to fight against PFDJ ideology. What I do is a scholarly work from one who really studied the ideology that was supposed to brainwash him.

            On this occasion, I am reminding you to stop your dismissive politics and listen the YOUTH. We have so much grievances.

            tes

            tes

        • Tzigereda

          Dear Tes,

          MeliKKam xela-ku! You first adminster an ablative dose then you say that you actually meant to give a single shot. Mis qetelkana…? Please specify your target and make clear what you intend to critisize avoiding unnecessary and irrational analysis and conclusions. The Tegadalit was a self-confident and determined freedom fighter. Talking about kids…why do you – in the same pattern like some – exclude the father and his responsibility?

          But what happened to The Good Tegadalit after 1991? What has become of her self-confidence and assertiveness? Maybe this provides a better framework to the discussion. I would prefer though that we broaden the context to the whole Eritrean society . If the point at issue is dictatorship and submissiveness, I don’t claim to be in the position to explain the complexity of this interactions. Thus, let me simply mark out these quotes:

          “The benevolent despot who sees himself as a shepherd of the people still demands from others the submissiveness of sheep. “Eric Hoffer, The Ordeal of Change

          “To be sure, dictators are crafty, evil geniuses with awesome firepower at their disposal. They are also brutally efficient at intimidation, terrorism, and mass slaughter. However, a force is able to dominate because the counterforce is either nonexistent or weak.” George B. N. Ayittey, Defeating Dictators:

          “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police … yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home — all the more powerful because forbidden — terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.” Winston Churchil

          • tes

            Dear Tzigerea,

            Here is what I put during my analysis:

            This bisection between your lines is something that we can trace and track on the current treatment of our women by PFDJ.

            This was my main theme of the discussion.

            tes

      • sara

        Dear Tzigereda,
        “I disagree respectfully with your suggestion of ” The submissive Tegadalit”,”
        “respectfully’ to whom? Omg, to some one who doesn’t respect himself? is that you
        tzegereda the strait shooter we know, what happened to you, why are you so apologetic this days, com on be yourself!

        • tes

          Dear sara,

          You see, respecting myself and respecting others is different. In fact I do have ultra-high respect for my self and much more for people of good heart like Tzigereda. We have being here together and she knows the respect I have for her.

          The only thing that I admit is: “I do not have any respect for people’s political thinking which aires PFDJ mindset.”.

          Hope you won’t expect my respect to Hopites, Nitricites, Tedites, Getebites and to some extent Mahmudites (as it is purely that of EPLFites mindset which I care less on our current issues).

          This has been my stand from the very beginning and it will continue until the PFDJ mindset is weeded-out once for ever.

          tes

        • Tzigereda

          Dear sara,
          Instead of ” belyo, awHidklu”, why dont you say what you think about the subject?

          • sara

            Dear gual haile,
            I thought I said what had to be said to him and he responded, what more could I say…? If I didn’t it’s the ESL stupid.

    • Mahmud Saleh

      The dearest tes
      You got it wrong body. That’s the danger with trying to copy others. When the little guy called “pilot” tarnished our heroines in pal talks, when he was new in town, he garnered some followers, but he was soon made to regret it and was thrown to the bin of disgrace by the same Eritrean women. When YG wrote Eritrea and its ghedli bashing articles, he found a slim following, that group is still kicking around; it has nothing organic of itself to keep it going. It’s dependent on TPLF’s Debre zeyti Cadre School activities. Not much of appreciation and following from the mainstream Eritrean activists. When the deluded and pathologically screwed up Desalegn Bereket declared (in line to your biggie yet empty pronouncements and declarations, he is in life support somewhere in the coldest corner of planet illogic. Now he has gathered the courage to announce that he was single handed going to turn Eritrean society upside down. You see my friend, some people just lack the knack to gather followers because people can smell their emty-vesselness from afar.
      Here now, unabashedly, you are telling us that, our mothers who LITERALLY our liberation struggle as its backbone as nothing but submissive; you are telling us our heroine female comrades as nothing but submissive (BTW, an era and actors you never lived with and you have no appetite to STUDY with an open and unbiased mind.,
      Haha…. Tell you what? You have become nothing but a spoiled brat. OK. Your PFDJ fed you, educated you, indoctrinated you as their cadre, and you served it well in destroying the ideals of of those heroines and their comrades-in-arms male brothers. PFDJ sent you for scholarship to compensate you for your loyalty and service. Now, for personal reason, a reason that we all guess, you are acting as if you are the only great “fighter-behind-the -key-board telling us you could dismantle a system by a stroke of a couple of keyboard buttons. It appears that in the process, PFDJ screwed up your mindset. And here is the earthshattering, nerve wracking and tail-wagging fact: a pathologically screwed up mindset can not read a rational mindset correctly. OK. That’s your problem tes. Your mindset has been so screwed up that you can’t go beyond cherry-picking words and lines. You have been made to reverse read thoughts, and debate shallowly. You fail to understand Eritrean context, both pre and post ghedli since you were kept under the wings of PFDJ. Now, you are endorsing stigmatizations such as “koboro junkies” and demanding Eritrean women should have liberated you from your stupor. instead of asking yourself what you did, you are burdening ex- EPLF veterans to liberate you. OK. ” I was chased by security squad’s car in Keren, ” is not an answer. What it shows is your grasp of what we are talking about is very, very low and limited. We are not talking about individuals’ heroic actions. We are talking about working together; about stopping blame-shifting, etc. In order to do that you have got to be sober (read abi’s great advices to you). Unfortunately, you lack basic social tenets of respecting your elders and women; you lack basic skills of engagements. It’s sad to see you not picking up on those area since you joined this forum, throwing tantrums, right and left.
      Bottom line: wise and up. take responsibility. Don’t burden Eritrean women by faults of a system that you were part of. Here, the problem is not that you were a cadre and a loyal servant and beneficiary of PFDJ, but the fact that you want to exclude yourself of a responsibility. Before going to China for scholarship, there was ELF AND ITS SPLINETRGROUPS across the border. If you were as indignant as you seem to have us believe, you could have crossed the border and join them. That’s what my generation did. That’s what Aklilu Zere did. That’s what all tegadelti did. They sacrificed personal plans (family/education/money…) and joined the struggle. Instead, you traversed two continents, and now want us to believe you that you could dismantle a system from a relatively remote proximity when you could have done it from a relatively close one. You see that’s what Diaspora does to people. It deludes them. Some (like me) do it with moderation, others (like you) in a shamelessly pronounced state.
      Eritrean women were are the most assertive and confident women. They are the backbone of families and societies. Of course, to get that you will have to work hard to unscrew your badly screwed up mindset.

      • Lamek

        Glorify glorify glorfy and more glorify.

        Hello Mr. Mahmoud ‘Glorify EPLF’ Saleh.

        tes brought up important issues and he made a very analytical and scientific assessment of the facts on the ground. It shows the man has a lot of capacity and that is why he is a Ph.D.-track student. Absolutely bright guy. I admire him very much.

        Now you being old enough to be his father, why are you trying to silence him for speaking the truth? You need to get out of this ‘don’t touch my sweet EPLF’ mindset yourself. Debate his ideas not try to knock him down. The points he raised are accurate and legitimate. Nobody is saying the Eritrean tegadelti women were not heroic or they didn’t suffer but they did exactly what they were told at every level. They never raised their voices for anything. It was not only you who was in medda, okay Mr. We all have families who were in medda, if they made it back. I have a brother who never made it back. But I do have many family and friends and they tell us the truth and the truth of the matter is women were subjected to harsh and unfair treatment at all levels but they were trained and brainwashed to be quiescent. Don’t try to fool anyone here by glorifying EPLF. The most disappointing person in this forum to me is Tsigereda Haile. She started on a good note with her article but you (specially you) brilliantly succeeded in labeling her Ghedli basher and she caved in. It is very sad really.

        Now going back to tes’s comment, you did not address any of the facts he stated instead you went on cheapshots below the belt in a yet another empty long hateta. You wrote the word ‘you’ over 60 times, yes I did ‘CTRL F’ and searched for the word ‘you.’ Be honest to yourself and to us here and refute tes’s facts one by one. Stop trying to discourage him from expressing his views. He is entitled to his opinion and he makes excellent and well thought out points.

        P.S. it is really demeaning and cheap to accuse someone of writing drank or non-sober or what have you. Have you drank with him? Do you see him on Skype as he writes? Come on, let’s all be grown ups here and debate ideas. Silencing people who oppose EPLF/PFDJ has been the most dominant culture across our society, from the remote villages of Qohain into the heart of U.S.A.

        What you wrote above is appalling and I beg you to apologize to tes, at the very least for implying that he writes drank or drinking. Shameful!!!!

        • tes

          Dear Lamek,

          You seem that you are a new forumer. As for me, I have gone through Mahmud’s silencing and dismissive attacks two years before that has lasted for almost one year or plus span. You can refer my argument and fierce fight with him. He constantly tried to ignore me. I survived and respected my political argumentative approach. There were many incidences that he was forced to welcome me in his atmosphere. From then on, we went further on personal relationship that we have frequented some telephone talks.

          Yet I didn’t fail to mention to him that I differ on my political approach with him. Though he told me that he agrees with me more than he disagrees I continued to remind him existing political difference.

          Now on coming to my personal attack: take it easy. I am guided my easter philosophy of inner peace. Nothing reaches inside and hurts when it is not mine.

          Your track of his word use is what it says all about his EPLF political ideology. You might be wondering on how much he uses the word ‘you” but don’t. It is the culture of PFDJ ideology when they open their dismissive politics.

          In case:

          Dear Lamek, I always see PFDJ at an ideology level and Mahmud Saleh sees it at program level. here is my understanding:

          First comes ideology, then policy, then strategy, from strategy you draw programs and from programs projects are outlined.

          Now, Mahmud Saleh is two steps lower than my take.His support for the National Service is nothing but his narrow approach by being at the program level.

          Ideology (where I stand for all of my arguments) – Policies – Strategies – Programs (where Mahmud stands for all his arguments) – Projects.

          This much is our difference and to reconcile with Mahmud, aha, it won’t happen easily until PFDJ is weeded-out.

          I feel good when I read your good words about me, thank you.

          Relax when Mahmud lowers himself to personal attacks just challenge him the way you are doing. You and I know our [YOUTH] suffering under PFDJ brutal rule. And no person is entitled to silence us from stating our grievances. Mahmud tried to silence Luwam (Stop Slavery in Eritrea Leading campaigner using his harsh criticism though it didn’t stop her except exposing his [Mahmud’s] political stand. And now he can’t silence us.

          I know Mahmud Saleh doesn’t feel good when the youth issue is raised by the youth themselves. This is worrisome seeing what he does to silence us.

          Lets challenge him therefore by absorbing his personal attacks. His objective is to turn our energy away. No way.

          tes

          Plus: the good thing about Mahmud is, he is just an end receiver of my profile. For what ever he says, it is here to the forumers.

          tes

        • Mahmud Saleh

          Selam Lamek
          First feel comfortable under your nick. OK. Darting and scurrying is a sign of insecurity. You have changed so many names believing that changing a nickname would bestow you with wisdom. ሰብ ትግረ ክምስሉ እንከለዉ፡ እሾከት ምን ንእሻ ትበልሕ” ይብሉ። እሾኽስ ብንእሽቶኣ ትበልሕ። Therefore, changing nicknames is not going to do much of a difference in your political views. tes is in a different category. I would not want to respond to him. In the past, I ignored his outlandish accusations simply because they were obviously outlandish and I love the man at personal level. Even now, I’m using my weekend spare time. So, buddy, take care of yourself before you try to defend others. First though, please note that changing pennames does not make the magic. I will have time with you when we will discuss the greatness of Ethiopia and its glory. And yes, the Great Ethiopian Renaissance Dam. Hayat will be there once she is over from her disappointment that the great TPLF has so far failed to do “a surgical operation that tilts the balance” for the TPLF nefTegnatat.

          • Lamek

            Mr Glorify, where are you getting your ideas from about nicknames, pennames etc.? Maybe you are able to do past-life regression but as far as I am concerned, I have one and only one name and that is Lamek. I use no nicknames. Again, stop threatening people. Be honest with us. Debate ideas. Don’t try to silence people. This is not the trenches you dug in Sahel. This is called the Internet and you can try as much as you can but you ain’t silencing me.

            You seem like an angry man. Perhaps you should check for PTSD instead of letting all your anger on me here okay. Don’t tell me to take care of myself. I will never take advice form someone like you because you are not a sincere human being. You have tried and failed to silence Hayat Adem, tes, and now me. Come again old man.

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Selam Lamek
            Don’t try to insinuate as if you are defending Hayat or tes. Hayat knows it well that I was the one who came to her defense when some participants questioned her identity I called her a brave woman when she spelt out her views. I regretted that she decided to leave, and welcomed her when she returned. You see where you are lost? No wonder with your changing colors and names. She has been consistent. I know when to engage he and when not. I like her presence and respect her engagements. I have no doubt that if we do a clean engagement, tes is not that far from my take. He read on of my earthshaking, nerve-rattling and tail wagging Hatetas, and he is fixated on it. That’s all. He is mad why I didn’t describe NS the way he wanted it described when in fact my article went beyond catchy descriptionsand head-line grabbing narrations. I went farther to dismantling PFDJ politico-cultural dismantlement which should take care of all the problems ailing our nation. Therefore, a sober discussion could sort out the differences of people who have known names and positions. At the end of the day you agree or disagree respectfully. Angry? Not really. But I know anger is an expression of frustration; and frustration is the result of confusion, or emptiness. I do know that frustrated folks end their diatribes with ” come again old man.”

          • tes

            Dear Mahmud Saleh,

            I won’t be mad at you for not calling it as National Slavery. I won’t because I know from which school you are coming. But I am mad at you when you get disturbed and tried to silence people who labeled it as such.

            You won’t call it as you didn’t experience it but for those who lived in it have all justifiable reasons to call it as a national slavery. I big portion of Eritrean segment who lived in the national service (1994 – 2016) is not hesitating to equate it as slavery. Unfortunately those who refuse to call it as such (including you) have no any first hand experience on what it looks like.

            Hence my reaction is not to force you label as such but at least listen those primary victims for what they are saying.

            When the young people raised that issue you had three (sane, insane and expected) reactions awaiting as former tegadalay of EPLF.

            1. Sane – to listen the youth and pledge for their concerns
            2. Insane: just to keep silent as many former tegadelti did.
            3. Respond as expected and reject what the youth are raising for.

            Unfortunately you fell into the third category. Not only you many diaspora Eritreans who support or sympathize with PFDJ regime did and are doing the same as yours. Really very concerning mindset but expected. Even the campaign was ready for such brutal rejection. And indeed you championed all those expected by writing a 10 page emotional reaction.

            Therefore I am not naive to expect from you for being a sane or in the insane category.

            tes

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Dearest tes
            Let the weekend roll on. But you are just wrong, way wrong at that. Most of my short writing experience and the articles I wrote revolves, primarily, around national service and the abuses that our young complain about. I can take some time from my kids and dig them for you, in case if the ten pages shut off your appetite to read my other articles that I wrote during that period. Suffice to say that it was this youth exodus and tragedies that propelled me out of the quietly disgruntled ex-EPLF members’ little world. You have got to understand that we also have family members who are directly affected. Anyway, off to today’s program. It’s wrestling meet and it’s going to be very long. I hope my son will win. Otherwise, he will have a two days “don’t disturb” period.

          • tes

            Dear Mahmud Saleh,

            Ok now you are using your spare time (weekend). Good point. Another dismissive character coming from Mahmud Saleh.

            Aren’t you the one who was calling me “irresponsible person? Who is responsible then? One who uses his weekend spare time or one who cries for his grievances?

            Please at least have respect to the forumers and be a serious citizen.

            Ok, now you are trying to create on conspiracy on Lamek’s identity. This is another tactic of dismissive character that you posses. Let it be the moderator’s task to identify different nick names and tell them to stick to one as they did to AMAN, Hope and others.Just deal on the points at hand.

            Oh, ok, you are using your spare time. Who knows you didn’t have time to address the questions raised by Lamek accordingly.

            tes

      • tes

        Dear MS,

        Aha, you are so funny.

        Ok, let me challenge your ambivalent mindset. Before doing that read my response to Tzigereda.

        Since most of your bla bla are just to cover your political line of thinking, I would again recommend you to know YOUTH suffering.

        As I responded to Tzigereda, I didn’t question on the Good tegadali’s heroism that she stood with her good boys. What I am looking into is the Sbmissive nature of the good tegadalit to EPLF central Political Bureau.

        Tell me of there was a single woman among the 13 Highest Political Bureau of EPLF? And take in your mind the 30% of the total population of the front were the Good tegadelti.

        Tell me on who was talking/passing decisions on women’s issue?

        In case you forgot, I was only 8 years old at the time Eritrea was independent from Ethiopian occupation.

        You wrote, Eritrean women were are the most assertive and confident women

        Here again, I didn’t question Eritrean women’s assertiveness and confidence. My point is, they never questioned the EPLF Central Political Bureau on their representativeness. Instead, everything that comes from the bureau was welcomed and NUEW became the tool to implement that.

        Another: here my point is on current issue. My inductive deductive approach is nothing more than questioning the political nature of NUEW.

        Do not go further. I am not on personal insults like you do. I am far from such low defensiveness.

        In case: here is how Aklilu Zere described the Good tegadalit

        On her Submissivness [emphasis mine]

        She had no say

        She had no right to disobey

        She had no freedom

        She had no room to wiggle.

        She had no time to rest

        She cannot refuse

        having [Emphasis mine] Absolute

        Obedience,

        Attention

        and Readiness for

        Punishment,

        Concentration,

        and Retention

        …. of what she learnt was her only salvation.

        Dear Mahmud Saleh, here is your reaction when the forums just went on praising Aklilu’s article

        … haha…መልሓሶም ማስቲካ ጌሮማ). ዓሸት ሰሀውረቱና ያ ኣኽሊሉ!!

        And when I responded, you wrote,

        “…Tell you what? You have become nothing but a spoiled brat”

        Haha, Mahmuday, take note that there are people who question everything.

        tes

        • T..T.

          Hi tes,

          I always was under the impression that you were saying that the rug under Isayas’s feet was already pulled away because he had no public or military support. Isayas is just there, where he is because of those who are working hard to make his removal likely to be thought as unthinkable.

          Mahmud said you were trying to dismantle Isayas’s system with strike of a key on your PC. That is not impossible if Mahmud adds his strike to yours making the current against Isayas stronger enough to sweep him off and gone for good. Already the neighboring countries, the whole of Africa and the world have swept Isayas aside due to his genocide, torture and crimes against the Eritrean people.

      • Berhe Y

        Selam Mahumd,

        I suppose you believe Eritrean and PFDJ are one and the same and what ever belongs to Eritrean belongs to PFDJ. Tes, like you and many others has the right to be send on scholar ship or what ever that he is qualified with. And for your information, he is Eritrean like any other Eritrean and if he happens to be send, it’s not because of PFDJ but because of the resources Eritrean provided.

        With his caliber and intelligent that God blessed him, do you actually think that he would never had made it in his own and be where he is today, as 1000 other Eritreans made it, be it by Ethiopia, Sudan, Libya or other means they made it to western countries and are able to pursue their education.

        Now I really wonder, how you even found that out. Did you made a call and ask your PFDJ security operatives in France and in Eritrean to send you his dossier. I don’t know the facts, you probably do since you have inside sources, but that scholar ship you are talking about, I am sure it’s some European University/ grant that provided it for FREE and it could never have been a money paid out of PFDJ pockets.

        The more I read about you the more that I suspect you are a mole in this website, appearing to be someone who oppose the PFDJ but you are to clout the judgment, intimidate and fiercely defend the legacy of EPLF / PFDJ and hide the crimes they committed against our people.
        Berhe

        • Mahmud Saleh

          Selam Berhe Y
          tes, already disclosed me as a PFDJ propagandist, and I accepted that loudly. So your “mole” description as disgusting and despicable it is, isn’t a lone wolf’s call.
          I have used information that tes voluntarily provided here in this forum. I don’t go behind doors, and am known for a straight talk. I don’t use personal information, otherwise not made public. I have off line personal contacts with many awatistas who disagree strongly with me. Private off line talkand information is privileged and I don’t use it. Do I have insiders? Cheer out my friend. Look, as much as I really want to respect you, you have been making our engagements to end on sour notes. Please watch the paranoia.

          • Berhe Y

            Selam Mahumd,

            I am sure Tes is able to defend himself. What he wrote and what you responded has nothing to do. You went on attacking his person instead of attacking what he wrote, bringing personal information that has nothing to do with it, at least that’s what I can read. And if he as shared that information voluntary, as he stated he was only 8 years old when Eritrea was liberated and you would have known that. The PFDJ since the day the set foot in Asmara and before that in the villages, they have been holding people hostage against their good will. In my judgement there are only two kinds of people in Eritrea.

            1) Those PFDJ thugs and their collaborators / enables and spies
            2) The rest of Eritrean people who are held hostage against their free will

            What ever Tes happened to be, I consider him he was part of the second group, at least from the day he was able to free himself and good for him to help in the fight of eradicating this cancer system that’s eating our people alive.

            We have seen too many of those suppose to be “liberated and freed” themselves from PFDJ shackles and suppose to “join” the opposition but in the last 15 years, nothing good ever come out of them. Except derailing, confusing, distracting and slowing down the opposition movements. And your response with him, I saw you one of those in the first group.

            If this sound harsh, sorry.

            Berhe

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Selam BerheY
            I’m not going to respond in kind, because I have seen you crossing basic lines of decency. Firstly, who are you to judge others? I just want to know what makes you believe you are the sifter? Come on man, please. You can put me wherever you think I belong to. But please know that that means nothing to me. I do what I do simply because I believe in it. I don’t think of you or the type of opposition in agreement with your attitudes when I comment or participate in activities that involve the search of meaningful change. To be honest with you, if the opposition was characteristic of what you display here, of exclusivist attitudes and utter anti-democracy and justice, I would not want to identify with it, period. But I know the opposition is a jungle. There are good men and women and good groups who are doing the right thing among the chaos. So, in respect of those Eritreans who are doing the right thing, I’m addressing you individually, and not in the name of opposition. You don’t represent it, and I’m glad to have that firm belief. And I have a place somewhere within that opposition rainbow. Don’t worry.
            Lastly, I don’t care about the harshness of the comments/replies thrown against me. All I care about is that we observe simple decency in not throwing baseless accusations. You are notorious when it comes to mixing things and jumping from a post to another like a trained antelope. You never apologize of your haphazardly made up accusations and counter arguments. Very notorious. I have tried to engage you, but you seem not to have it, brother. So, the choice is yours. Either do it neatly i.e. observe simple decency and restrain yourself from making wild accusations, or you will have it. As far as I’m concerned, I don’t think I could make a purposeful exchanges with you.
            respectfully, yours.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Dear Berhe,

          Please, as far he is humble and respectful, even if he has espoused an idea that you abhore, just tackle to his idea and not to his personality. The man is gentle and respectful as I know him in this forum or in person one on one. I have disagreement in his take as you do. But after all aren’t we debating because we believe on different ideas and different approach to our current national predicament? Take it easy Brother.

          regards,
          Amanuel Hidrat

          • tes

            Dear Amanuel Hidrat,

            Aha, do you think that Mahmud Saleh was humble and respectful while he was reacting to me? Where is your rational judgment?

            Berhe Y. has a point. And his interjection is to call Mahmud Saleh from his EPLF ideology and leave his dismissive and silencing political behaviour. He [Berhe Y.] was not meant to defend for me rather to create a conducive environment where civility can be a norm.

            If you noticen Lamek did the same as Berhe Y and Mahmud did the same as he did to Berhe. Just read each line in case you didn’t follow.

            Therefore be rational on the way Berhe Y has put his well appreciated remark.

            tes

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Merhaba tes,

            To have human respect to any person is one thing, and to have different opinion and political stand is another thing. I don’t mix them. And that is what I was trying to convey to Berhe. Whether it is PFDJ views or else, if you don’t support it tackle to dismantle the ideas as it should be. Fight to the idea by an idea. How about that tes?

      • Berhe Y

        Selam Mahmud,

        I was a bit busy and I couldn’t get back to you sooner. I couldn’t find your last reply (I searched), as it looks like you have locked your pages, so if I don’t address all I apologize.

        After much thinking, I realize that there is nothing I say or do will change your mind or that of Hope for that matter. I think I will leave it to the people like Saay and others who are doing an excellent job so there is nothing for me to add.

        In other words, I have made up my mind that I have no business engaging with anyone even remotely considered let alone sympathize with the Eritrean government.

        I am not suggesting that you are but so far our engagement has been or appears to be that way.

        I say this not because I don’t believe in democracy or those who support the government have no right but I think it’s wasting of my time, to involve in this argument that will go nowhere. My main objective with regards to the Eritrean government is to see it removed and disappear from the face of the earth, just like others before it, like the DERG, the Nazi or the fascist. I have absolutely no sympathy for the PFDJ government.

        I do know a thing or two about some activism that I have done in the past and it will be wise for me to focus on that and with those individuals / groups that are actively engaged in doing that.

        I don’t know what you were implying with the Amharic comment (last one), but believe it or not, I only started to get involved in the Eritrean politics after the dark day of sept 18th 2001, responding to the call made by the G15.

        As far as Eritrea goes, I decided never to look back until the regime is removed since then. So I have absolutely nothing more to lose, except a lot more to gain, as sooner or later the regime will crumble. And I fear no one and will not be intimidated when it comes to highlighting the injustice our people are facing back home because of our home grown dictator and his enablers.

        If I had offended you and I questioned your integrity, I am sorry.

        Berhe

        • Mahmud Saleh

          Selam Berhe

          Please move on. Do what pleases you.

          1. If you thought you were going to change me, now you know it was a futile attempt. I never attempted to change your mind, nor did I try to change the mind of anyone. I express what I feel in writing about the topic under discussion. That’s all. And what is it that you want me to be changed into? Be courteous, please. You are addressing me, not Hope.
          2. You said that you had made up your mind not to engage with anyone “even remotely considered let alone sympathize with the Eritrean government.” save your mischaracterizations, but, why are you engaging me, then? Berhe, you appear to be a nice guy, but believe me, you are turning into a comic character, by the day. You see, you don’t get the fact that you are not THE patent officer of opposing injustice. OK, you need to be humble, and get a simple fact that opposing what’s wrong is an inherent quality of mankind, and those who really believe in democratic practice take a deep breath and engage people who appear to be framing things differently. So, brother, Mahmuday takes “no Eritrean left behind” at heart. That’s why you see me engaging characters holding diversified views from HA all the way to Nitrickay. I enjoy it; I learn a lot from engaging them. They are all terrific in their own way. So, who is tolerant and who has the aptitude for democratic dialogue? Anyway, forget about it. Now, you characterized me as a sympathizer of the government. I want you to hold on this because I will refer you to it at the end of this comment.

          3. Remember, you are the one who comes replying to my comments. I never replied to your comments. Therefore, insinuating that we have had some sort of an engagement or a debate(s)is incorrect. I’m forced to reply to you in order to defend myself. This has become a taxing endeavor in itself; so, if you leave me alone, you have made me a big favor.

          4. You said, “If I had offended you and I questioned your integrity, I am sorry”
          Yes you did. You called me a sympathizer of PFDJ. You lied and I hate liars. Please be humble, don’t play it out as if you are the sole warrior around. This I know: The attitude you display in this forum of intolerance, pessimism, and blackmailing is not a typical example of the thousands of Eritreans who are contributing to a better change for our nation.

          • Berhe Y

            Selam Mahmud,

            I will leave alone, and I am not interested in responding to you except when I felt what you said represented Eritrean people (includes me) one way or the other.

            And I will continue to do so if you like or not, other than that SaEda YSNaHka.

            I may be wrong but I am not a lair. If I called you “a PFDJ sympathizer”, and if it was wrong, you say I am wrong.

            So for example in one comments you wrote responding to Hayat you said addressing the Eritrean dictator “I critised my president more than I need to be or something” I don’t have the whole thing but, are you really seriesly consider the dictator “your president”, as in have a mandate to represent you.
            This is probably what prompted me to call you as such. May be not by your definition but I will call that to anyone who would say that about the Eritrean president.

            This does not mean I am lying but I may have made wrong conclusion, thus I
            am wrong.

            Edmmen TiEnan yihabena, an qebri HGDEF yeraKbena.

            Berhe

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Selam Berhe Y

            Good, but you are not leaving me alone. You think you have the right to reply to me only when you feel what I say represents “Eritrean people (includes me) one way or the other.”
            So, where are we going with this attitude brother? I never say I, or my statements, represent Eritreans. Of course, you will have to tinker with your lens in order to read and understand the gist of my comments.my comments. I accept the fact that you have the right to express your views about Eritrea the way you feel them expressed. Can’t you tolerate others to express their views the way they feel them expressed? Why do you feel you have the right to dictate terms to others? I would really love to know. I know you fudge and flub whenever confronted with simple logic, but get of your high horse and try to think in the idea that you are not Dictating General. OK.
            Now let’s loo into your shallow politics. You see my friend, it’s one thing to just sing off “The thrill is gone,” and quite a different to imbed the essence of B.B.King and beam the presence of a bluesman. I know shouting off the terms “Justice and democracy” is easy, but exhibiting their essence in your practice is altogether different, because you can’t really feign their practical essence by dramatizing/acting out. You have to nurture them, they are not some mathematical truths that you could master by following a preset steps. They are concepts you nurture through dialogues, and negotiations real socio-political issues. I still believe my difference with you is not on who is genuine “change seeker”, or “genuine PFDJ hater” but on how the change comes and what change we are talking about.
            1. I believe on a change that comes through unified Eritrean efforts. I care about who comes after PFDJ. You care less of who comes after PFDJ.
            2. I believe we should not starve or strangulate the nation in order to get IA. Yours, well, that’s all clear.
            3. I don’t accept any Ethiopian involvement in deciding the fate of Eritrean politics. On the contrary, you are from the folks who fart whenever Emama Ethiopia sneezes. ካብቶም ኢትዮጵያ ህንጥሽው እንተ ኢላ ቋቕ ዘብሉ ሰባት ኢኻ። You have been here more defending Ethiopian regimes’ destructive policies more often than attacking PFDJ’s destructive policies, in a coherent way.
            4. I like an optimist and assertive Eritrean voice, while you seem to be emotionally spent out, totally dependent on foreign entities to solve Eritrean problems; your pessimist and nihilist attitude can’t be a torch bearer for hope and change.
            Nevertheless, I would not put myself as a person who has the absolute truth. I would still consider you as someone on my side and keep conversing with you. It’s you who is dictating on me terms. And tell you what, I hate folks who try to dictate terms on me. It’s that simple. That’s why I try to not engage you. Now, the choice is up to you. But please don’t waste your time to convert me. Because I don’t believe in conversion. I want you to keep your uniqueness and engage people, including me, without the false feeling that you are the truth bearer or the Dictating General. Because you are not.
            5. So, “my president” made you put me on the wrong box? BereKet sand ኣነ እብል መርሓባ፡ ንሳ ትብል ካርከባ when he found himself in a similar situation. BTW, I don’t remember, if I said it, or in what context I said that reply. My disqus was “blocked” in a private mode by error, while trying to change my avatar. I decided to keep my current one and my disqus is rechecked off “public” so it is open. I would be happy to see in what context I said it. Even if I said it the way you interpreted it, for someone who is keen about “justice and democracy”, you would find ample examples and demonstrations from my other comments and writings which attest that I’m one who abhors PFDJ and its leader. But considering Berhe Y, it won’t surprise me if you botched it the way you did my other comments. After all you condemned me to be a mole of PFDJ, and that I had insiders tipping me off on tes journey of scholarship, something you said without even caring to read what tes had written in this forum.
            Now to your “my president” allegation, and please get a bottle of antacids ready because I will say things that are not popular.
            My: a possessive determiner; that something belongs to me.
            President: head of a state, it should not be democratically elected.
            Therefore: if a person happens be the head of a state that I belong to, in this case, Eritrea, saying “my president” would mean I’m an Eritrean. It’s as simple as that. If, on the other hand, I happen to be a proponent of certain party or a certain political program and that person represents that party or program, then, saying “my president” would mean I’m referring to a president who stands for me, or a president that I elected, etc. Since you put me in a box of your own makng, I’m not surprised that you would take it as meaning “my president who heads PFDJ” since in your warped imagination I’ a man who “defends the crimes of PFD.”
            Well, it’s quite interesting Berhe. Isn’t it?
            OK: let me break it down

          • Berhe Y

            Selam Mahmud,

            Just a couple of points:

            1) when I said there is nothing I said will convince you, to change your mind. What I was referring was that you have made up your mind, so there is no point. I didn’t mean that I want to convert you to anything. For example, if you try to tell me, EPLF was good and now PFDJ to did good to the Eritrean people and their wellbeing, I will never be convinced. An zesemAka debri ayatmahlel.

            I am not going to call you a lair but what you said below absolutely wrong.

            “You emphasize Ethiopian intervention in solving Eritrean political problems.”

            Absolutely NOT true. You made this up.

            ” I don’t accept any Ethiopian involvement in deciding the fate of Eritrean politics. On the contrary, you are from the folks who fart whenever Emama Ethiopia sneezes. ካብቶም ኢትዮጵያ ህንጥሽው እንተ ኢላ ቋቕ ዘብሉ ሰባት ኢኻ። ”

            Again absolutely not true. But I tell you one thing, weyane nAKan, n Isayas Afeworki yiqerbukum. EPLF was with alliance if TPLF destroyed ELF (their own brothers). Now because Ethiopia are enemy of Isayas Afeworki, all the sudden you want me to be. Instead of playing worrier, beating up innocent people’s lives, why don’t you go and confront weyane who are occupying our land.

            “You have been here for defending Ethiopian regimes’ destructive policies more often than attacking PFDJ’s destructive policies, in a coherent way.”

            As far as Ethiopia and their policies goes, I really do not care as long as it doesn’t involve Eritrean people. I ask of them what is internationally required of them and to be sympathetic to the Eritrean people and a good neighbour. Which I think they have done, they gave our people refuge, they gave some opportunity to study, they gave lots others to make a living and they have opened their doors for Eritreans to in and out and have them to move free.

            I believe Eritreans have more right in Ethiopia today than inside their own country, for that I am grateful. If I expressed their generosity, sorry I hurt your feelings.

            Berhe

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Selam BerheY

            A quick search of your comments yielded that, indeed, you have not called for Ethiopian intervention, invasion or that type. You deserve a public apology for that part. And having mastered the GUT and COURAGE, I apologize. A public self-flogging, I guess, is enough. However, the rest of the earthshaking, nerve-rattling and tail wagging statements stay up until such time you own up to your misstatements and mischaracterizations about me. But I will admit to the fact that a calm search has yielded a positive result. Here are a couple of your comments that made me apologize to you.

            “Unless you have mistaken me with someone else, you will not find a thing that I say
            that supports Union with Ethiopia, or for Ethiopia to use force against
            Eritrea, anything of that sort. I believe 100% Eritrea solutions needs to come
            by Eritreans and I also believe in non-violent peaceful resistance to overthrow
            the dictator at home.” made to Peace

            “Now if Ethiopia did bomb Hirgigo power plant (as far as I know a civilian
            infrastructure) then Ethiopia is committing war crimes contrary to the UN and
            the SC.” To Hope

            And there are statements made to Hayat and Semere Andom beating them up so badly that you made Hayat run to abi jumping over the Mereb bluff, and Semere A making a quick return to Toronto where he has discovered the truth about Eritrean tegadalit. I also found your debate with the notorious Gen. abi. As I told you before, I did not really followed your comments critically. Therefore, thinking of you as someone who advocates for the invasion of Ethiopia was based on subjective feelings and is wrong.

            Well, I congratulate you for that, and have a happy Weekend. Neither of us should pretend owning the absolute truth, that’s why exchanging views calmly is helpful to clarify doubts. Whether you will gather the GUT and the COURAGE and revise some of the statements you have thrown towards me is up to you.
            Now being a Saturday, here is the great blues man Albert King singing

            Everybody wants to laugh but nobody wants to cry
            I say, everybody wants to laugh but nobody wants to cry
            Everybody wants to go to heaven but nobody wants to die

            Everybody wanna hear the truth but yet, everybody wants to tell a lie
            I say, everybody wants to hear the truth but still they all wanna tell a lie
            Oh, everybody wants to go to heaven but nobody wants to die

            Everybody wanna know the reason without even askin’ why
            Oh, everybody wanna know the reason, oh without even askin’ why
            You know everybody wanna go to heaven but nobody wants to die

            http://www.metrolyrics.com/everybody-wants-to-go-to-heaven-lyrics-albert-king.html

            And here is the song

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AN-neddbZsk

          • Berhe Y

            Selam Mahmud,

            Well I can say honestly, a positive thing come out, out of this ordeal. I am also big enough to apologize and to say sorry and to apologize.

            Enjoy your weekend, and I like to end it on that.

            Thank you for sharing the song.

            Berhe

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello Berhe Y and Mahmud Saleh,

            Thank you both for being decent. I wish all great people like you would occasionally see the greatness in each other instead of focusing on their differences alone. Thank you both for being good role models.

          • Abi

            Fantastic
            How is this TegenTay wenbede Mahmud considered decent while calling Ras Abi ” notorious “?
            Eway wurdet!

            Yegimel eregna
            Yeketema dagna
            Yechaka abyotegna
            Amelu qebegna
            Siraw tenkllegna
            Anferawum egna
            Ras Abi neftegna
            Abed giza belew
            Agerun salgezaw!

          • Fanti Ghana

            Good Morning Abisha,

            Mahmud didn’t try to weasel his way out, and Berhe didn’t gloat. They deserve recognition for that. Are you going to be always mad at him for sometimes arguing with the Queen? Why aren’t you in Church any ways?

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Selam Ras abi

            ድንቅ ግጥም፡ ኣመሰግናለሁ። You need to trust agenTay Fanti’s judgment (you brought back memories of ኣገንጣይና ተገንጣይ). So, in my book, I think FG is the most decent among us. Then comes tegenTay Mahmud, then come my two Generals (yep, left and right). Speaking of Notoriety, you missed the spirit of my intention. You could be pleasantly notorious as well as notorious in an infamous way; you appear to be notorious in a pleasant way. Your quick and witty responses and one-verse size poems, your humor and what goes with it are all qualities that make you among the most pleasantly notorious awatista. That’s why people called you back when Berhe Y kicked you hard in your rear-end (ha…ha, w/end version). Again, let me ask you what FG had already asked you. Why aren’t you in church? The following is what the “queen” would sing for you every time she read your comments.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUEnnf3gTXg
            Call for Ephrem to run for PM; your sleepy PM sucks.

          • Abi

            Selamat TegenTay
            Selamat AsgenTay

            Yene Qes Mahmud, diaqone Fanti
            SeyTane Berhe, ya kifu melti
            QiTen yeregeTegn eskahun yamegnal
            Kemebete beqer ma yiredalignal ?
            Ma wegeben yashegnal?
            Endet biye liqreb wede feTariye
            Qenina lelitun eyalkugn eyeye
            Fiqrwa liben wesdot bezto abesaye
            Awate bet qerehu ayatalehu biye.
            Amalaje hunegn ebakih Mamuye
            Fanti gedel yigba tiliqu sewye.
            Berhen beTfi afnchawun biye
            MeTahu teqebeyign qonjit Hayatye
            Keberish qomealehu jeganu Abiye!!!!!!!!

          • Dear Abi,
            Is your wife aware of your love poems? She will kill you if she finds out. Be careful.

          • Abi

            Hi Vet Mahmud
            ( I like vet much better than Teg)
            KetegenTay eregna eshalegnal.
            So you like to engage people from HA all the way to Nitricc?
            Is it all the way up or all the way down?
            We need revolution ( Abi.yot) to narrow the gap. ” Something got to give.”( good movie,BTW)
            Hey, just called to say hello.

          • Mahmud Saleh

            ታድያስ ጓድ ኣቢ (ዓቢ)
            Awatista relation is always horizontal; that’s what makes this forum interesting. That’s why you see people like SGJ and SAAY coming here and getting muddied with everyone. That’s why, get this, I felt I lost two Generals when you announced you quit. May be you did not read it but I called upon you to come back because I wrote “I don’t want to see losing two Generals,” because Nitrickay had already announced taking a break off the forum. That shows your relation to me was equal to my relation to Nitrickay, ha…ha… how about that?

          • Abi

            Hi Vet Mahmud
            It looks like back to derg time here at awate land. A very low standards to be a general. Here is an old joke to explain my theory
            After the “still born” coup attempt in 1981 EC, Mengistu put many generals in jail , killed some of them, and gave a GENERAL title to many low ranking officers. Here is the process
            Notice – Kift yesra bota
            Title- General
            Qualifications- Manbebina metsaf yemichil
            Experience- Hulet yeTorinet film yaye

            You see how the standards were too low ?
            Anyway , I like to be veeeeery close to Hayat on your horizontal relationship scale. Not as a decorated General but as a “loving” bodyguard. Believe me I know how to protect and defend a Queen. I have watched “The Bodyguard” many times.
            Abiyotawi misgana aqerbalehu.

  • tes

    Dear Ayneta,

    These bigots have no shame to see Ethiopia to be turned into a fragile state simply because they all hate TPLF. What they didn’t see beyond is TPLF was a guerrilla rebel group that has transformed Ethiopian political landscape into a state where one can not easily predict to happen in a country that once was land of feudal lords, dictators and monarchists.

    TPLF by now is just a historical legacy, a legacy that the Ethiopians in general and the Tigray people in particular should be proud of for ever.

    I feel very bad (and sad) to see EPLF of Eritrea to be ended as PFDJ. I don’t know why people like Mahmud Saleh can’t return back to their old EPLF (one that was dead in 1994*) and fight for visions of their comrades. Unfortunately it bothering to witness former EPLFites to be disgraceful by letting Eritrea fall under PFDJ administration.

    tes

    *I am wondering if there is relationship between Mahmud Saleh’s leave [exile] and EPLF death of 1994.

    • Abi

      Hi Tes
      Why don’t you just tell me TPLF created Ethiopia? What do I expect from a cadre turned a drunk professor?
      Ethiopia was here. Ethiopia is here. Ethiopia will always be here.
      Please don’t preach when drunk.
      You have got so much to unlearn.

      • tes

        Dear Abi,

        I had a small discussion about you with saay7. Saay7 had a good theory and he told me that I shouldn’t that much worried unless terrible lawlessness happened. I wished to see you around for a reason that you are a blessing to the forum.

        Welcome back and stay around. don’t get frustrated by those who try to give you a hard time. Eyob Medhanie is around and sure it is good to see him again.

        But let me give you an advice: don’t get into mess with Fanti Ghana. This person is a saint. If not worshiping, be blessed from his presence.

        tes

  • sara

    Dear awitstas
    if the wish of those war mongers is true, we Eritreans have no choice but only for AL EIN BIL EIN, nothing more no less.

  • Hayat Adem

    Hi Awate,
    1) please be fair with KS. He is not the one killing, jailing Eritreans nor exposing Eritrea to attacks. You have IA just doing all that.
    2) And what am I just being accused of by Gheteb, Peace, Hope, Nitricc, SemereT etc.
    Is it false? No. The attack happened and I think you know it. Am I happy? No, I am not. The only attack I wanted to take place is with a goal of putting IA and his group out of action. Why did I bring it? It is to prove to the doubters like SemereT and Mahmyday that surgical attacks are possible and proven. So quick? Since when did being quick become a crime?
    3) Why don’t you blame IA when IA was palying good-for-nothing games risking an attack? Did you tell him to stop when he was hosting ARS, G7 etc.? Did you tell him to stop when he was conspiring with Egypt on harming Ethiopia?

    • Lamek

      Hi Hayat. Totally off topic here, but you must be one of the following: an ER doctor, a nurse, a taxi driver, a gas station attendant, a casino dealer, an air traffic controller….

      • Hayat Adem

        Lamek,
        Funny:) None of the above.

        • dawit

          Hayatina,
          Just a a wild guess, Lineswoman or Aragabit like in soccer or (meshrefet) for charcoal or wood stove?
          cheers

    • tes

      Dear Hayat Adem,

      Title:

      Gist of my message: A step that can end Proxy-war is not removing DIA/PFDJ from power but to stop him being a leverage of terrorist groups inside Eritrea

      As always, I disagree with you in the involvement of Ethiopia as a helping agent to remove DIA. But these days Ethiopia is put at risk from terrorists which are trained and stationed inside Eritrea. This security reason might violate all international norms and force Ethiopia to take unnecessary but need based attacks to debar PFDJ’s ruthlessness.

      What Ethiopia might fail from is when it involves herself into full military operation that puts Eritrean sovereignty at risk. In this case, Ethiopia will be guilty and the consequences will be a disaster to regional security and future peaceful co-existence.

      Today, Ethiopia is at a cross-road. Unless she sits on a round table to discuss with PFDJ government so that the security in question is solved once for ever, the situation that is spanning for the last 18 years will turn into a permanent pain that has no remedy except full fledged war that can endanger the people and economic security.

      On the current funning news;

      Witnessing the current political unrest and appraisal multi-dimensional protests inside and outside Ethiopia that challenges internal peaceful economic growth, there is no doubt that forces which are guided and powered by mafia PFDJ are behind the scenes. For this, Ethiopia needs to sit with Eritrea and discuss mutual security matters that extends beyond the border issue. Of course PFDJ will try to manipulate the pending border issue but at this time for Ethiopia it is unwise to deal with. Hence Ethiopia has to devise a means that can pressure PFDJ to stop training terrorists [Ethiopian Rebels] through all means possible and let the border issue be between two governments. This can avoid proxy-war and internal turmoil that is keeping the two nations the center hub military fanatics.

      For what you shared:

      If it happened, Ethiopia has an obligatory reason to attack military centers inside Eritrea that have become training centers for terrorists who are putting Ethiopian security at risk. And this action has no relationship with sovereignty issue. Monitoring the political turmoil and proxy-war between the two countries that has continued for almost two decades, I would say, Ethiopia has only one means to let PFDJ sit on table and discuss mutual security matters and this is by destroying military training centers and camps that are used by Ethiopian rebels groups.

      I feel sad when I put my deep thoughts and state that Ethiopia has obligatory reasons that can only stop PFDJ from continuing a proxy-war that will endanger Ethiopian security. And parallel to this Ethiopia should do all her diplomatic muscles to expose PFDJ’s dirty hand of nurturing terrorists like that of Ginbot 7 and factions of TPDM and other minor and more than a dozen military groups who are residing inside Eritrea. Not only pressuring PFDJ Ethiopia should also stop training Eritrean armed opposition groups officially if her attack is going to be accepted by the world security community.

      Here, I read Geteb trying to make a point that tries to put your profile as if you are funning war. Hayat Adem, these Getebites, Nitricites, Hopites, Peaceites, Tedites have no shame to call the political turmoil inside Ethiopia as success of PFDJ to let TPLF down. And when Ethiopia attacks Eritrea, they call it sovereignty issue.

      I declare that Ethiopia has all rights to preserve her sovereignty secure by removing all external problem sources and one of the top priority for Ethiopia is to stop PFDJ from supporting Ethiopian rebel groups.

      Here my take should be strictly in support of Ethiopian security issue. When it comes to removing PFDJ or DIA, Ethiopia has no business to do so. Removing DIA or PFDJ from power is strictly an Eritrean issue and it should be left to Eritreans. Period. And this is where I disagree with you.

      tes

  • Berhe Y

    Selam Hope,

    Since you mentioned my name. I have no idea what has happened and what has been written.

    Now if Ethiopia did bomb Hirgigo power plant (as far as I know a civilian infrastructure) then Ethiopia is committing war crimes contrary to the UN and the SC.

    What I don’t understand if, where is the Eritrean ministry of information, the foreign minister, the UN ambassador speaking in what has happened.

    Why are they so quite….wouldn’t you think they should file to the SC….

    But we know IA and PFDJ, their power (Haylom) is ab hizbi Ertra…FeraHat…

    Berhe

    • dawit

      Berhe,
      Do you want Eritrea to fabricate News? Eritrean Ministrey of Information business is to “Serve The Truth” not tell lies, sweet lies, old lies or fresh lies. Just watch Eritv and relax.

  • Peace!

    Dear Berhe Y,

    In addition to your boring post, you don’t seem to learn how to sell your unionist agenda. If you think it is a good product, then be a good sales man grow some balls otherwise talking nagative of other products doesn’t make your product good.

    I remember when Dr Mohammed Kheir kicked you out of his Facebook page perhaps because he couldn’t stand your bigotry. I read all your comments that day, I was shocked and even thought he did the right thing to cut you off.

    Please write as often as you can and keep our opposition group shining.

    Peace!

    • Berhe Y

      Selam Peace,

      If you don’t like what I wrote you are more than welcome to comment and refute what I say. Other than that you guys (those pro PFDJ) have nothing positive to say and show what the PFDJ thugs to show after being in power for 25 years. I really do not know why you think it’s taboo to oppose the PFDJ system for all the damage it’s doing to our people without being influence by “weyane, TPLF, Unions Agenda” or what ever that you “suspect” and people motive is.

      Unless you have mistaken me with someone else, you will not find a thing that I say that supports Union with Ethiopia, or for Ethiopia to use force against Eritrea, anything of that sort. I believe 100% Eritrea solutions needs to come by Eritreans and I also believe in non-violence peaceful resistance to over throw the dictator at home.

      As to what you wrote with regards to Dr. Mohammed Kheir, I really do NOT know who he is, let alone to write on his facebook page. I have never been to his facebook page, nor that I have an active FB account that I use. You must have me mistaken with someone else.

      Berhe

      • Peace!

        Dear Berhe,

        You just call me PFDJ for saying it is boring to write nothing but blaming Ghedli for everything all day ኣይስልችወካን ድዩኽ? Not that I vouch for Ghedli but when you do it excessively, it just doesn’t press that button with readers who are sick and tired of being told Ghedli was a camp for raping, torturing, killing, slavery and so on. As for the Facebook incident, let me just say this I believe you I must have mistaken you for someone else with the same nick name and similar writing style.

        Cheers
        Berihula

  • AMAN

    continued………
    I TOLD YOU SO !
    But I would join Struggle though !
    Note that Ghedli is not the same as Struggle
    The reason for my decision to join only Struggle but
    not Ghedli is :
    Based on the research I have conducted and done
    for the last 10 years ( during my preparation period)
    No body wants to join Ghedli except one or very very
    few not more than a dozen. While Millions of them only
    want to be only part of the Struggle.
    So contrary to what I believed before, I changed my mind
    of joining any Ghedli. But would only do join struggle.
    There exist a big difference between the two to the extent
    of even being opposite poles.
    So my decision for democratic struggle and fighting under
    it for the last decade was right decision though many didn’t
    believe or liked it.
    Though many glorify Ghedli and even use it to identify them
    selves from others, in truth it seems they have abandoned
    it and its principles and values and do not want to join it or
    go with it but would rather settle in the democratic non violent
    or struggle camp as opposed to Ghedli contrary to their assertions
    and confessions through their Orgs. / parties organs.
    SO WAS I RIGHT OR WRONG THEN ?
    AM I RIGHT OR WRONG NOW……….?
    I told you so !
    So Now , if is So, do I get CREDIT or BLAME ?

  • AMAN

    Dear Awates
    Peace
    I was only testing Ghedli or how Ghedli would be
    as a prepration before I may join Ghedli.
    But Hell No
    I am not joining real Ghedli. You can choose what
    you want. I made up my choice !
    Thank you and
    GOOD NIGHT

  • Peace!

    Dear ambassador,

    I am guessing you stop by to check the news, you like free ride:) Well,
    I hope you call yourself a justice seeker or even an opposition because you and your likes are a good reason why many Eritreans prefer to remain silent. Please come more often!

    Peace!

  • Kim Hanna

    Selam Ambassador,
    .
    In my opinion your points are on the money. The bold and loud declaration of “Ghedli didn’t liberate nobody” is an accurate statement that is certain to bring out all the ‘religious’ defenders of Ghedli.
    .
    The worshiping of the hardships of the many so that the handful few at the top are free and liberated to do whatever they wanted is the twisted product of the “planet of the illogic”.
    I believe PIA and few hundred of his lieutenants are the freest people in the world. No argument there.
    .
    The highly educated and reasonable people including our saay still defend this end result as a worthy hardship. Dignity, slavery and occupation are some of the terms they use complete with traditional poetry and music to justify the hardship.
    .
    What good is the testimony of anthropologists when we witness the hardships and “the worship of hardships” as if that is what the journey is all about.
    A. Are common Eritreans live in relative physical security?
    B. Is the father, mother and children who live in the little “GOJO” feel safe and optimistic about their humble basic future.
    Regardless of who is to blame, did freedom and liberty get achieved for these residents of “GOJO” and their relatives in town.
    No!, “Ghedli didn’t liberate nobody”
    .
    Mr. K.H

  • Mahmud Saleh

    Dear Aklilu
    As Usual a beautiful treat to the people (our women) and the nation of Eritrea. Thanks. You have reinforced what the good men of this forum have been saying.
    Eritrean women were part and parcel of Eritrean society which was condemned to endure decades of untold suffering. Eritreans did not have a choice but to fight back and fought back like no one considering the odds that were stacked against them.
    Eritrean women were not particularly forced, persuaded or indoctrinated to endure the tough situations you described. They were direct subjects of Ethiopian occupation. Their villages were burnt, their husbands, siblings and children were indiscriminately tortured and butchered. Therefore, like their male compatriots, each of them made an individual decision to join the revolution. Those of us who put women in bad light, as if they were subjects who could not defend themselves; who could not make decision for themselves; who were passive receivers of male abuses are absolutely wrong. One aspect of misogynists’ narration is that women are so soft and incapable of speaking up for their interests; that, they need mental and physical protection. Statements that paint women as spoon-fed, easily manipulated, koboro junkies, are all part of the chauvinist male-world.
    Like any other social groups and movements, Eritrean revolution, went through evolution. Laws pertaining to gender issues that which existed during the seventies were different than laws that existed during the eighties.
    When folks who had accompanied those heroines write about them, they have images of real human beings in their minds. They have real stories in their memory. In the discussions that were going on under tegadalit Tzigereda’s article, no one claimed that our revolution was a smooth walk. For instance, I tried to present the bad and the good aspects of that era as related to women’s issues, as I lived them, so that folks could make up their mind. However, my description of Eritrean tegadelit, as being the assertive and the confident, did not sit well with the usual bashers of our ghedli. You depicted it in a poetic flow. I’m glad to see some of them chewing up their tongues(haha…መልሓሶም ማስቲካ ጌሮማ). ዓሸት ሰሀውረቱና ያ ኣኽሊሉ!! Perhaps, if there is any, it’s Eritrean women who should demand for equality. They bled for it, they died for it. Their struggle is like no other feminist movements.
    Women’s issue is part and parcel of the overall societal change. Women’s success is the reflection of a successful societal transformation; it’s a manifestation of a social revolution.
    Emancipation? I have not read any literature that states Eritrean revolution had emancipated women. And it could not happen because we don’t have an emancipated society. But, the fact that Eritrean revolution had shattered a layer of a glass ceiling is not debatable. The question is: have we really shattered the top layer of the glass ceiling, or not? Without any doubt, No. This is something that all good-hearted men and women should debate on, not for the purpose of scoring cheap political points, but for a genuine attempt of soul searching.
    Women’s emancipation is a process; no country could claim it has achieved it. What we need to look at is if we do the ground work at changing attitudes and laws that oppress women. No change is a change unless it enables Eritrean women secure their well deserved place.
    Thanks, Sir.

    • tes

      Dear Mahmud Saleh,

      And here you are to say;

      “Statements that paint women as spoon-fed, easily manipulated, koboro junkies, are all part of the chauvinist male-world. ”

      Here, first and foremost, the one who coined the word, “koboro-junkies” is the only and only all time greatistan Haile TG. Now you are calling him “male-chauvinist”.

      Well, well, well!!!

      First and foremost: the phrase, Koboro Junkies was strictly given to those women who are blindly supporting PFDJ by being in foreign lands. When Haile TG tried to make a mind boggling analysis on their mindset and why they still are hinged with Nihna-Nsu mantra, he couldn’t get a rational reason to support their take. Specially, when these Nihna-Nsu women cult followers showed-up in concerts that was organized by PFDJ in the days of Lampedusa tragedy, and in particular, on the exact date one year after of this horrific experience, then Hailet TG said, these are Koboro-junkies, no more no less. he didn’t use it to describe it based on historical narration. It was a current description that was made from one of our coolest headed Awatista of all time.

      Now, here you are with your dismissive labeling of male-chauvinist. Well, this is a continues pattern of Mahmud Saleh, what to do with his twisted mindset.

      tes

      • Haile WM

        hi Tes

        now i think you are getting away from the real purpose of all of it, koboro junkies doesn’t refer to to women or men specifically, it was a characterization of those eritrean men in diaspora whose nationalism is expressed throu guaila at any PFDJ gatherings. I don’t know who coined it, but it was effective and for sure it was not pointing towards women specifically.

        a point of advice, if you let me, relax and let go personal quarrels with whoever you might think is against your views.

        • tes

          Dear Haile WM,

          First of all I don’t have any type of personal quarrels. relax therefore in case you think in that way. However I won’t fail to tell you that I won’t relax on the political fight until justice prevails.

          On the Koboro-junkies – I know who coined it and I mentioned his name. if you didn’t know before know now. In addition as the word was coined after the incidences I mentioned above its original inception was to those women koboro junkies who were going to the PFDJ organized concert. For sure it can also be extended to men of similar characteristics. Hence no argument to whom it might apply.

          Why I brought the point in highlight is because Mahmud Saleh is now here to call male-chauvinists. And my argument is not.

          Hope you got it. Therefore you are the one who need to be relaxed and be well informed before you comment.

          tes

          • Haile WM

            Hi tes,

            you are blindly fighting for justice and you are just like those blind supporters, you can’t see with whose side you are fighting for and against who you should fight. You are just fighting… as a mater of fact you missed my point because you just want to fight LOL ma men again relax… you seem to loose it.

            blind support and blind fight cant really bring the light we are looking for.

            cheers

          • tes

            Dear Haile WM,

            Forgive me if I sounded fighting with you. Here is what I tried to respond for you.

            First I took your advice seriously and clarified my take. Second on the points raised, I agreed with your central idea (for whom does Koboro junkies stands now). But I went further to explain who coined the word and why as you have told me you have no idea on who he is. I thought I was helping and acknowledging for the person who coined it.

            On blind support:

            No dear Haile WM, I am not a blind supporter but may be a fearless argumet maker. And for this blame awate.com. The way the web designed is for fearless argument makers and I am using this opportunity provided to make my point.

            If you have any blame, forward it to the founders therefore.

            tes

  • Kokhob Selam

    Dear Hope,
    Thank you sir, again I am on the same stand. PFDJ is not suppose to support and Ethiopian opposition when Eritrean our country even don’t have enough water to let our people drink. PFDJ is supposed to solve internal problems of his own nation not to disturb others. Yet, again EPRDF is suppose to solve Ethiopian internal problems instead of bombing my nation. PFDJ’s interference will take us to war I know as EPRDF is in trouble in Ethiopian internal confilict. and I know also they are supposed to work hard in solving their problem and make their people happy so not to give chance to PFDJ – that is the correct way of tackling the problem. unfortunately they didn’t do that and I knew in advance they will not..that doesn’t mean I will support their decision . relax man. if you supporters are honest please come and defend. Lol.

    • Hope

      Sir:
      Again,the same mantra!
      But who have Ethiopia to interefere in the internal affairs of Eritrea?
      Coz Eritrea is a Tiny Nation and defenseless and yet you are supporting that?
      Doesn’t Eritrea has a Right to defend itself?

      • Hope

        ….who gave Ethiopia the right to mess up Eritrea?

        • Kokhob Selam

          Dear Sir,
          the answer is simple Eritrean PFDJ.

      • Kokhob Selam

        Dear Sir,
        why don’t you stop crying. if PFDJ is powerless ኢዶምን እግሮምን ዘይእክቡ –Ha ha let me use the translator ..why they don’t keep their hands and legs .

  • Kokhob Selam

    Dear Hope,
    be calm, don’t be in hurry. if so happen you will find me to be against this action. but our reasons are different. I am against war no circumstance can justify war between those two sisterly nations. record this point, I am totally against bombing my nation, even if they destroy only the leadership that I call is corrupted. the reason I want PFDJ stand this difficult time is not so PFDJ will win and bomb Ethiopians. again I am against this stand. Ethiopian internal problem is sole responsibility of Ethiopians to solve as Eritreans is the same. If PFDJ interfered and cooperate with their internal opposition that is not acceptable yet, it still remains Ethiopians government in convincing their people. I always believe external factors are 2ndary. if your people respect you their is no way they will go against you asking others for help.

    so guys, relax. when I said earlier PFDJ should not interfere in Ethiopians case, I was right- I know the result again I was fighting against my own homes problem. But when my warning became a reality today, I will not have time to blame PFDJ as I am really in emergency to do my best to save even a single soul of my fellow Eritreans.

    • Hope

      Selam “Mr Kokhob:”:
      But still you are conveniently shying away from blaming Ethiopia for its official restlessness and destabilization of Eritrea,way worse and more than that of a nominal role of Eritrea!
      Tell me why you are indifferent on the dangerous role of Ethiopia against Eritrea.

      • Kokhob Selam

        Dear Hope,
        who told you so! Never I am only against PFDJ.

  • sara

    Dear
    Habiebe eritreen those of you in the west, Its another hoax to spoil your weekend.

    • dawit

      Dear sara,
      Is this news coming from the ‘reliable Ethiopian news ‘ source ‘The Awramba Times’?

      • sara

        Dear dawit
        there was chatters on the social media last night, maybe fed by ”reliable ethiobian news”

  • saay7

    Selamat Ambassador:

    First, a minor issue: we have grammarians and editors at awate forum and your “Ghedli didn’t liberate nobody” will be dinged by Dis Donc.

    But seriously, perhaps you have narrowly defined the word “liberation.” Here’s one:

    lib·er·ate
    ˈlibəˌrāt/
    verbfree (a country, city, or people) from enemy occupation.
    “twelve months earlier Paris had been liberated”

    In this case, Eritrea was liberated from Ethiopia.

    Now, then, I said that Aklilu Zere’s tribute to women shows that Eritrean women were better prepared for Ghedli than Eritrean men because–as is common in much of the rest of sub-Saharan Africa– women/girls lives are an endless list of back-breaking chores and, in the case of Eritrea, the societal norm requires a protocol of austere decorum. I also said the how Ghedli liberated the Eritrean woman from the shackles of patriarchal society is a story that is to be told by others.

    These “others” must be people steeped in Eritrean culture–on the magnitude of being anthropologists–to share with the readers a “before and after” of the status of Eritrean women. This is something that, notwithstanding all our eagerness to opine at forums like this, very few are qualified to do. And when we don’t know our society, we use Western measures of Women’s liberation–gay rights, reproductive rights–as our benchmark.

    I was at a conference once where this very pro-EPLF scholar made a presentation about how the EPLF, in comparison to other left-wing organizations, was extremely slow in adopting “feminist issues” and the examples he gave were: Female Genital Mutilation, marriage dissolution, and reproductive rights including abortion. He, of course, didn’t want to put this in a scholarly journal as it would “embarrass” his front: (wdbna, deqna, etc.)

    So, until the more qualified anthropologists and women writers give us of Eritrea-before-Ghedli and Eritrea-after-Ghedli on the status of women, here are the real measures I would use:

    1. Gender parity in Property rights, including land tenure, and inheritance – before and after ghedli
    2. Gender parity in access to education, including higher education – before and after ghedli
    3. Gender parity in employment opportunities – before and after Ghedli
    4. Gender parity in family case law in theory and application – before and after Ghedli
    5. Gender parity in burden-sharing of raising families
    6. Gender parity in creation of an autonomous citizen (as opposed to seeing woman as an appendage to male handed over from father to husband or male sibling)

    And all this, I would submit, would have to be done within the context of Eritreanism because, for example, feminists who were looking at African women’s rights within the context of Africanism prefer to use “womanism” over “feminism.” Well, Alice Walker did and I am out of my element.

    saay

  • Kokhob Selam

    Dear Awate Friends,

    out of this topic but important, what is going on in horn. do you have any information I hope it is not true http://www.segentube.com/

    • Ted

      HI KS, calm down, haven’t you learned anything from your shameful behavior on the rumor of Bisha mine bombing.

      • Kokhob Selam

        Dear Ted,
        you still think, you won on that all debates? again today you want to tell us you care about our people more than Eritreans..Lol. the news is all over and I said “hope it is not true” if you have concrete information just put for us.

        really you will not find that I wish war between those nations. for me there is no winner on such type of war. again it is my political side – the side that wants peace and democracy that will lose more than all others – because it is the mass who pays the price.

        Now, Let me ask you …if so happen war broke will you go to defend your party? you know it is a promise if war broke I am going to expose every PFDJ supporter in diaspora and let the mass all push them to the field. I will request PFDJ to open for me to work with their team in taking you out from where you live…

      • Nitricc

        Hey Ted, i don’t think you understood the situation. KS still believes TPLF thugs bombed Bisha. I am not kidding. KS hates Eritrea and EPLF.

        • Kokhob Selam

          Dear Nitricc,
          Why are you doing that? you guys are so afraid your blood is not reaching to your brain. the news is not confirmed and you should pray only…don’t fight here.

          • Nitricc

            Hey KS, you know you and I go back and back for a long time but your stand against Eritrea is very disturbing. I am all well if you stand against PFDJ and any other political organization but your naked stand against the people of Eritrea and the nation of Eritrea is a none starter for me. your infatuation with known dedebit is noted.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Nitricc,
            you guys can talk day and night but when the day comes, you are no where except labeling people. you were supporting PFDJ and I was against. but now we all don’t want to see war and we should be united condoning. We all know Nitiricc or all those supporting will not die but our people. Let us at least unite and say NO WAR! and now nothing is confirmed yet, don’t disturb your mind. pray! pray for our people don’t worry about your leadership…they will run away.

          • Nitricc

            Hey KS, Read your own comments and if you feel the same way, then, i will be happy to engage you. right now, you are being very unfair to the nation of Eritrea. again. read your own comment.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Nitricc,

            you know more than everybody I am not going to support war against my nation. if others say I will just accept but not you.

      • ‘Gheteb

        Hey Ted,

        Did you notice that the nutso galoot ,Kekhob Selam, has removed the video link with his post. Please check.

        • Kokhob Selam

          Hi, Gheteb,
          No I didn’t remove. by the way..if you are terrorized in this news which is confirmed what will happen to you if that is true ? it seems you love your nation man! Lol. I hope you will pack and move right to Asmara.

          • dawit

            Dear KS Yes you will be faster than him if there is a change of ‘regime change’ in Asmara. But it is your empty dream! it will never happen in your life time.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear dawit,
            Bombing and war we oppose..because you and care about people, if you are also like me. I don’t want to see the death of single Eritrea or Ethiopian and also it may prolong the life of PFDJ..it may ! we don’t know the result ..so reject war.

            regime in Eritrea? today tomorrow next year i doesn’t mater but it should. I wish it is from the beginning but since we have people like you – what can we do. I don’t care if I am there or not..it is not my job , God as his way but duty is to work work and work. I was free of PFDJ so I was always in freedom, even during war against them..peace lovers live life fully and are happy every moment. freedom is intellectuals choice and it is relative. PFDJ will go, I don’t know when exactly .

            what you and me need is new king. I hate the current king..so the new will be love by both of us – common choice.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear dawit,
            I am asking you and all those who support to be there if war broke and I can challenge you, you will not. If regime change, don’t worry you can also be fastest.

    • Peace!

      Selam Kokebai,

      It looks like you are having fun with that I am anti war mantra, why did you choose to save it for today? I thought you were in the room when Hayat Adem preaching for death and destruction ( surgical attack in her terms), weren’t you? Although I like to call it a missed opportunity, but your current mood would fail to justify that:)

      Peace!

      • Kokhob Selam

        Dear Peace,
        My queen was never preaching for death. everyone who preaching for peace looks for you the opposite. I hope Ethiopians will not bomb in Eritrea. your name is peace and please be part of those who oppose war,

    • dawit

      DearKokhobay,
      Just watch EriTV to know the Truth.

  • ‘Gheteb

    An Ethiopian Air Force Attack on Eritrea???????

    Selam All,

    A rumor that has NOT been confirmed is swirling around feverishly, of course, its purveyors being the usual source on facebook and Twitter . Rumors has it that Ethiopian Air Force has attacked the Hirgigo Electric Generation Center, TPDM aned Ginbot 7 military bases in Massawa, Eritrea.

    So far and reportedly, it has been claimed that the Ethiopian Air Force attack on Eritrea has been confirmed by Addis Fortune, an Ethiopian news paper. Nothing else to corroborate the alleged Ethiopian Air Force attack on Eritrea

    Now this being the case, the FIRST PERSON to bring it to this forum is Hayat Adem. Unsurprisingly, one can feel the utter glee and elation literally oozing out Hayat Adem’s one line post. I am reposting it here for future reference and to prevent any deniability in the future.

    [[[[[ Hayat Adem • an hour ago

    Dear Awate,
    So much about PFDJ’s capability of defending surgical attacks! ]]]]]]

    • Kokhob Selam

      Dear Gheteb,

      “ዘሕሙቆ ኣለኒ በትረይ ሃቡኒ “እባ ኣይትግበራ ! – ኣብ ከምዚ ኩነታት ነቶም ኣብ ዕርዲ ብሓይሊ ተተሒዞም ዘለው – ኣዕርፉ ኣሕዋት ኢልካ ምትከኦም እዩ ዘድሊ :: ሃየ ድኣ ተዳሎ ::

    • Nitricc

      Hey Ghetab; what else can you expect from such evil person. She dreams civil war, war and attacks. having said what else do you want the disgraced TPLF to do? they have to do/say something to divert things from the people of Ethiopia. regarding Hayat Adam; well what a joke! i feel sorry for this miserable creature.

      • ‘Gheteb

        Selam Nitricc,

        I know what this person that goes by the nick Hayat Adem stands for and what ‘her’ mission is in this Forum and then some. No surprise there.

        Then, look at the person who goes by the nick name Kokhob Selam or Kokhob Kinat (ከኾብ ኪናት), Mr. Star War, bending out of shape trying to deceive and pull wools over our eyes as if he is not happy to hear about the alleged attack. He was, doubtless, as happy as Hayat Adem about the rumor.

        This Kokhob Selam dude got to be seriously nutso. Otherwise, he should remember that it was him exactly on April, 2015 who brought the fake news that an Ethiopian Airline jet to have landed on Asmara Air Port.

        I guess, Kokhob Selam must think that everyone is like the Al-Ahbash (ኣል ኣሕባሽ) galoots he hobnobs and hangs out with. He surely is one screwball odd fish and he is one that I SEVERELY ignore!

        • Kokhob Selam

          Hi Ghetebino,
          ኣንታ ገና ዝተረጋገጸ ነገር የለን : ኣይትጠላቀዩ !

  • Hayat Adem

    Dear Awate,
    So much about PFDJ’s capability of defending surgical attacks!

    • Tzigereda

      Hi Hayat,
      An attack which has to be condemned, whatever the reason might be! Such actions will never be part of the solution!

      • Dis Donc

        Dear Sisters,
        Something happened that we do not know of, as of yet?

        • Hope

          Oohs,come on DD,you are way behind that the Massawa Port and the Hirghigo Power Plant,the sole Energy Siurce of Eritrea,have been bombed by an Elite TPLF Airforce few hours ago!

          • Dis Donc

            Dear Hope.

            Seriously? You’re kidding, right? Was it just a strike or a full scale war? Why wouldn’t other media outlets do not talk about it then? You know everything is connected to everything else, including the stock market….

          • Hope

            Selam DD:
            Check with xxxxxxxx Hayat Adem and Kokhob Selam and with Getachew Redda of Ethiopia!

      • Kokhob Selam

        Dear Tzigereda,
        we will all condemn any type of attack as it is the poor mass who will pay the price of war. we condemn the war of 1998 but condemning don’t help except to show the stand as the question “why?” remains unanswered. anti war people are helpless unless they remove anti peace politicians.

      • Hope

        Selam Tzigereda:
        Is that all you should tell this Ghost,when it belittles the Eritrea you bled for?

        Hello Concerned Citizens:

        As ERITREAN Citizens,please refer to what Amb Ghirma Asmerom said to the Security Council @ TN.com

        • ‘Gheteb

          Wo Melehy Hope,

          Surely Tzigereda’s response does sound like a politician talking from both sides of her mouth. These days, I am wondering if all the talk about her Ghedli experience is not being used for some crass self-aggrandizement.

          I wonder!

    • Peace!

      Hayat Adem,

      Wow that quick! Would you mind sharing any details of that telegram?

      Well, let say your wish came true: TPLF bombed Eritrea and on its way to capture Asmara, do you really think such stupidity will do the job? If you think the Eritrean people will seat and watch while their children dying, you must be really doing this for money otherwise make no mistake this will only unite Eritreans against your Weyane. And If you gave up on your life, I am really sorry, but Please don’t let your brain process evilness, death and distraction.

      Peace!

  • Ted

    Hi, Mr Ambassador, What a drama queen. Read the article again to get the gist of the message; Good women inspire, educate, lead ,care and fight. It is about the potential of women(good women) in every aspect of human life than your melodrama that it is about women in Ghedli. . She, the good women, as reference, were tested by fire(Ghedli) to come out as strong as before. You have no problem patronizing women in your failed attempt to chastise Ghedli.

    • Ambassador

      Mr. Ted

      I am a “drama queen” now? Is it meant to belittle me by liking me to a specific reference of women? Now, have your 5 second laugh and say: “it is a reference that can be used to any person-you get it wrong dude”. Did you have your laugh? Well, your 5 seconds are up. “Queen” is a reference to woman. The nut job who uses the phrase, against whom ever it may be, has that image of a melodramatic woman which he thinks is applicable to the person disparaged. A liberated women would’ve killed you for that micro-aggression. Using gender reference to chastise people is bigotry. Therefore, you are a bigot-like all products of Ghedli….ገደል ደኣ እተዉ ንስኩምስ….lol ደናቁር

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Dear Ambassador,

        Ghedli has liberated the land called Eritrea, and not the Eritrean people. That is why we are still in struggle to liberate the Eritrean people. Ghedli has never been set to liberate the Eritrean people from the get go. It was a nationalist movement. So adjust your anger to match the reality.

        Regard
        Amanuel Hidrat

        • Ambassador

          Thank you Mr. Amanuel

          It is true. I get frustrated at times. And nothing frustrates me more than bigotry when it is displayed in a person who claims to fight for freedom. You raised a very good point though; but falls short when it comes to explaining why Ghedili went that destructive route instead of the more desired route of freedom. Ghedli- and I always hold this closer to my heart-, from the get go, was a racist project. It wasn’t all about land or people: land was the byproduct of that project. Ghedli was about an utter disdain towards Ethiopian rulers that was informed by a colonialist discourse. It was all about getting rid of “the feudal backward Amhara”. Since it was executed within a colonialist frame-that sees a fellow African as backward and uncivilized- it eventually culminated to a narrative that treats land as more desirable than its people. Like all colonialists, it started to see land as dominion and people as subjects. My frustration against ghedli is, therefore, well warranted.

          With respect,
          Ambassador

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Ambassador,

            this is the 2nd if not the 3rd time I notice you accept the words you threw. I really admire you.people should say everything the feel at every moment and yes correct it when they are told they are wrong. this is the sign of openness and clarity. If only we have such mind and heart, we could have been in peace today. thank you brother. I love to see matured people like you and Amanuel.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Ambassador,
            .
            Again something caught my eye and I agree on the main point of the post. I believe you are accurate up to a point and I wanted to add a couple of items.
            .
            “…getting rid of ” the feudal backward Amhara” ” is the SEED. That seed germinated in schools and other interactions. It started to grow by itself when the oppressive heads of the governments went on doing their business. The growth continued when the name “Ethiopia” started to be soiled with famine and the teachings of Socialism Religion. It is understandable to disavow and create a new identity.
            .
            The growth really took off and matured when our neighbors started the watering and provided the abundant manure.
            .
            As I see it in these simple terms, I cannot blame anybody. That is the way it was and this is the way it is. Let us deal with it.
            We cannot go back to straighten out the NOW and the future. Time has changed everything. We have to start from current realty and with open eyes navigate the road ahead with confidence and hope to the good.
            .
            Mr. K.H

          • Dis Donc

            Dear Mr. K.H,
            Very good writing. But I am afraid that your message won’t be understood by most because of:
            1. its subtility
            2. other laude noise topics
            3. its hard reality
            4….

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Dis Donc,
            .
            Are you implying that I am an Abyssinian “Gebz” or Getab? I am joking.
            .
            Did you notice that Getab’s SEVERELY does not mean that much? Like the Donald he changed his mind 180 degrees without a qualm.
            Therefore, now I have decided to REGULARLY ignore him, until he strays from his dictionary into substance.
            .
            Mr. K.H

          • Haile WM

            Selam Kim Hanna,

            can i ask you to expand more on your sentence “The growth really took off and matured when our neighbors started the watering and provided the abundant manure”
            this is subtle yet it needs more highlight, as i believe its there the whole key.

            thanks

          • Hayat Adem

            Hi Haile,
            When someone chooses to write with subtility just for the sake of beauty of it, do not ask him to explain.
            seed= eritrea’s new identity (gmo, if you like)
            Water= propogànda
            manure= money and weapons
            watering ànd manuring agents= near and far arabs

          • Haile WM

            Hi Hayat Adem,

            your patronizing attitude is quite irritating, first of all i didn’t ask for explanation rather for expanding because depending on who is reading a subtle statement can have different meaning. I suppose for an ethiopian the understanding you got of it perfectly matches. from an eritrean point of view that very statement means a whole different thing:

            seed = eritrea’s self determination quest
            water = the brutality and manuvering of ethiopian leadership to squander eritrean aspirations
            manure = money and weapons
            watering and manuring agents = USA, USSR, far and distant arabs such as Libia, South Yemen (People’s Democratic Republic of Yemen) etc…

            thanks any way next time do not tell me what i should ask or not, just express your understanding.

            let me try a subtle way, your views reflect more than what you state to be or stand for 🙂 (now i expect you wont ask me to explain it because of it’s subtleness 🙂 )

            cheers

          • Hayat Adem

            Haile,
            1) I apologize if it sounded patronizing, but was not intended. I was not intending to offend you.
            2) I was translating the subtility to simplicity, otherwise the idea belongs to KH, who is known to be an Ethiopia. So, there were needs of asking an Ethiopian to expand an idea from an Eritrean perspective. That was obvious.
            3) Tell me how different explaining is from expanding. (not the technical difference, but the commoner difference)
            4) “your views reflect more than what you state to be or stand for”
            I think you are saying, “You claim to be Eritrean but your views suggest you may not be Eritrean.” Do you think this is the first time I’m hearing? Every time I say something strong and nonconforming, this kind of reaction comes as a push back of 2nd nature. I think it is time for me to pay the 2%. If not why not? Where are you dawit? Where can I meet you for the THING? Ooh-la-la!

          • Haile WM

            Hayat,

            let me start with the risible part of the 2% claim = being Eritrean. First of all I don’t pay 2% yet I am a proud eritrean. your association of 2% and being eritrean is part of your bias on eritrenism and I find it amusing.

            Expanding is very different from explaining, the later is used when somebody doesn’t understand a simple or complex concept. The former is used when the concept is ambivalent.
            In this case KH, who I know is Ethiopian, used a subtle statement, which can easily applied to the TPLF as-well, especially the “…getting rid of ” the feudal backward Amhara” ” is the SEED” part. That was the reason of my asking of expanding, and his response was the same as yours (common Ethiopians view on eritrea) he was not subtle at all. the next question for KH would have being how come he doesn’t apply to TPLF or Oromo Liberation fronts the “Amhara hate” card rather only focusing on his neighbors (Eritreans).
            You and me know that TPLF’s fight was all about Tigray (ethnic tigrigna). OLF were focusing on ethnic Oromos and they were all fighting the amahra rulers. Strangely enough though he applies the “Amhara hate” card on the only organizations who were nationalistic in their nature (ELF EPLF) and were collectively fighting for all ethnic groups of such nation (ERITREA).

            Now Do you see the subtle nature of KH thinking here ? have I explained (not expanded) my request of expanding KH subtle statement enough? I hope I did.

            You never say something strong and non conforming. you simply say things that are quite conforming to TPLF politburo and propaganda department. Saying some thing like “EPLF bloked the life line for the starving people” in the 1986 famine is neither strong nor nonconforming. On the other hand saying that some TPLF Leaders of that time were corrupt and stole the money needed by the starving people is strong and nonconforming, but i never recall you mention it in your posts…
            Dear Hayat I really believe you are eritrean and i really belive you love TPLF more than Eritrea and it’s people and for sure you hate EPLF ELF and the Gedli.

            cheers

          • Hayat Adem

            Dear Haile,
            It really matters zero whether you believe or not I am Eritrean in the same way it matters not whether I believe you are Martian or Moonese. But it seems the market gave me a different Haile from the one I had in mind.

        • Hayat Adem

          Emma፣
          It sounded like the Arab Spring Movements. Most of them were successful in throwing away their leaders but only wake in the morning with another of same kind or worse. So it is in installments? First the land, then the people? Do you think those all young Eritreans including women would flock to the field if they knew it was about the land?

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            selam Hayat,

            Of course. What did you think that make my genetation to flock to the field? It was pure nationalism except few ideologically oriented. As you the socialist countries – the only which were supporting the liberation movement in Africa and else where and hence the influence to our ghedli.

            Do we had the fear to be fallen under this cruel dictator worse than Haileslassie and Mengstu? absolutely not. So Hayat for outsiders, their optic of judgement the optic is always

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            selam Hayat,

            Of course. What did you think that make my genetation to flock to the field? It was pure nationalism except few ideologically oriented. As you the socialist countries – the only which were supporting the liberation movement in Africa and else where and hence the influence to our ghedli.

            Do we had the fear to be fallen under this cruel dictator worse than Haileslassie and Mengstu? absolutely not. So Hayat for outsiders, their optic of judgement is always from hindsight.

        • Abi

          Ato Amanuel
          I can’t believe you said ,”Ghedli has never been set to liberate the Eritrean people from the get go.” I have to admit that you are catching up to the reality. It only took you 55 years to get it.
          You continued by saying ” It was a nationalist movement for a nationalist project to build a new nation of our image.” Ato Amanuel, how do you reconcile the two? Is it possible to build a nation without the people? You sound confused. When you were busy mass mobilizing in Addis, did you ever explain to the new recruits the aim of your struggle which was to liberate the land not the people?
          As I said many times before, your struggle didn’t have Eritreans at heart. You proved me right. It is sad hundreds of thousands died to liberate a mountain, a river, a rock, a bush, a camel, not the people.
          The sophists used to say “Man is the measure of value.” Not anymore, I guess.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Abi,

            I have edited my comment above a little bit to elaborate it and not to change its message. I hope that helps you. Besides I have no idea the hate you are showing against me. But since I am not in the hate business, no matter how you continue on that trend, and however you carried it (the hate) with you, I will still love you as human being. If you are not happy with my duty to our national call, it is okay. But to the extend of hate is unbecoming, and will only tell who you are. My friend I am the same like the Ethiopian nationalist who fought against the feudal government of Haileselassie and the criminal government of Mangustu Hailemariam, however for different purpose. So at some point you have to accept the desire of the Eritrean people, and move on for a different relationship that bring mutual respect as two nations, to prosper and fight hunger side by side. That is what the reality calls upon all of us, be an Ethiopian or an Eritrean. Where is my favorite man “Amde” the Dove of peace
            to pull us together – the Abi-Amanuel love hate riddle.

            regards
            Amanuel Hidrat

          • Abi

            Ato Amanuel
            What hate are you talking about?
            I asked a question based on your comment. Now, you changed your comment and blaming me of hate. Since when asking for explanation becomes a sign of hate?
            I have accepted the desires of Eritreans and I do everything to keep Ethipia independent.
            Fair enough?

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Okay Abi,

            My comment was intended to address to all comments you made about me. In one of your comment you said I hate Mr Amanuel because he did this and that to Ethiopia, without going into details. Anyway this comment is “fair enough” to both of us and to both brotherly people who strive to live in peace and tranquility. And God bless them with his mercy.

            regards,
            Amanuel Hidrat

          • Abi

            Ato Amanuel
            I have used ” hate” for arabs and I mean it. I used hate for camels just to get to Vet Mahmud. It is a joke.
            I never, never said I hate Amanuel. I have said I don’t trust him. You know what you did in my backyard.
            ” ebab yaye, beliT bereye.” It is like ” once bitten twice shy.”

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Hi Abi,

            It is okay all is fine now. Just grace us with your humor and poetic messages – your identifying markers. The love will not change, I am a loving person.

          • Abi

            Ato Amanuel
            All is good!
            Wedefit yilegnal firhat aderebign
            Ene wedefit say jerbayen eyulign.
            Wedefit enhid abren gon legon
            Kehuwala endatqer Wedaj endnhon.

      • Ted

        .Hi Ambassador. ገደል ደኣ እተዉ ንስኩምስ….lol ደናቁር it is more like it. All is not lost, Hayat the queen Adem found a good out of your bitter soul.

    • Nitricc

      Hey Ted, from what I can tell this toothless guy shows up to disintegrate every time Aklilu writes. Last time, he had almost heart attack when Aklilu wrote about What Italian Colonialism Did To My People” I think he have some kind of grudge with Aklilu or he is simply a person who is educated beyond his intelligence. Anyway he is Imprudent.

  • Kibreab

    Dear Aklilu,
    Once again, another masterpiece. Keep writing, please.

  • Sarah Ogbay

    Dear Aklilu,
    Thank you for this lovely and encouraging article. Thank you for giving the Eritrean woman her rightful place and praise/tribute. And thank you for doing it at the right time!

    • Lamek

      Dear Dr. Sarah,

      It really boggles my mind why the women participating in this forum, including yourself, Tsigereda, Hayat, sara, etc. fail to raise the more serious issues. We all just glorify glorify and glorify ghedli to no end. The women who were in Ghedli experienced very unnatural experiences to women and even men for that matter. The first two paragraphs of this article are splendid. The rest is true but wrong. Or I would have hope the author would have included a few paragraphs at the end saying that we should never ever again subject our women to anything like ghedli, mortal combat or anything like that. It is disgraceful to say the list. These women were young, naive, uneducated, and knew almost nothing about the war they were fighting for. I have to admit most tegadelti fall in this category but more so the women.

      If you were in ghedli, we would have lost another potential. You used your potential, achieved the highest levels of academy, married a man to whom you are at least equal in all respects.

      This is not to diminish all the torture my sisters and mothers went through and how they endured as much as the men did but it was wrong in the first place to put them in such situations.

      The three quotes at the end of the article nullify most of what you all are glorifying. A glorious woman would be someone who was allowed to achieve everything she can.

      When I was growing up, until high school, every school I went to, the top ten students were primarily the girls. Then in high school, they all vanish. I went to three high schools because my family was dislocated three times.

      We should stop the Ghedli euphoria, the dancing, the glorification of EPLF and what it achieved under IA (listen to Medrek radio). Now is the time to correct all the past mistakes by getting back to serious work. The only day we need to remember is June 20th. The rest we should leave to historians and the rest of us should get to work.

      Thank you,

      Lamek!

      • Ted

        Hi Lemek, don’t you have “HELP ME” letter to write to Weyane.
        Would you prefer the women you care about be tortured and raped in their house. They did what they have to do and the rest is history.
        Awet n hafash.

        • Hayat Adem

          Hi Ted,
          I’m responding to your last line: “awet n hafash”. m’en ‘mo ms’habo? It is the most hypocritical sloganeering. I think it became so when it reached Eritrea. I am not as irritated when other leftists say it- like in “victory to the masses!”. But when PFDJ uses it, it sounds like those terrorists who chant “Allah weAkber!” after beheading a fellow human being.

          • Ted

            Hi Hayat, may be the complete sentences could help.
            Awet n’ Eritrean hafash.

          • Dis Donc

            Dear Madam Hayat,

            Is it;
            Al·lahu-àkbar!
            Or is it;
            Allah weAkhber!

          • Nitricc

            Hey DD; lol she wouldn’t know; she is Christian. lol she was given a Muslim name to infiltrate the Eritrean society with specific agenda that is designed by the Weyane. If you want i can feel you in all the drama behind it.

          • Dis Donc

            Dear Nit and Ted
            *fill-in.
            *feel-in has a totally different meaning.

            Guys I was only asking. Because, I have heard many muslims in Ethiopia and Eritrea making grave Arabic mistakes. Sometimes I used to laugh about it by saying that only if they had known the meaning…. In anyways, I had no intention of pulverizing anyone.

          • Nitricc

            Hey DD. i said “Feel you in” means inform you. but of course you can translate it every way you wanted too. once i had a person from England working for me as a contractor and i was feeling him about the work i need to be done. And i said let me walk you through! and he got up from his sit and grabbed his back pack and said let’s go. the point is, we are all free to interpret things the way we wanted to, i.e. you are free to do as such.

          • Lamek

            Why don’t you learn from your mistakes? To feel you in is not the same as the other to fill you in. Tsemamsi hade derfu.

          • Ted

            Hi DD, if only you knew how hard you pulverized her.

          • Hayat Adem

            Hi DD,
            …or allah weakber
            Got you, more of a message than a correction, duh, very silly…if I may.

      • Hayat Adem

        Lamek,
        Your points make a lot of sense to me. We say ghedli brought us a nation while also it is truea nationwide dream and potential has been killed in the same field.I actually thought Aklilu’s portray on the individual heroines is beautiful. You only get gutted when you see the overall journey, the price and the destination.

      • Nitricc

        Hi Lemack; obviously you are telling what kind of the person you are, brittle and frail. If you were an Eritrean you should have known and understood that Eritreans are passionate about their country and for that ……..
        “There is no nation so powerful, as the one that obeys its laws not from principals of fear or reason, but from passion.”
        You are disgraced!

      • Sarah Ogbay

        Hi Lamek,
        I do understand where you are coming from. But i did not mention Ghedli in my comment. I said all the praises and tribute Aklilu gave to eritrean women is right because they deserve it. Yes, mistakes have been made, but the problem is they are not acknowledge. Many Women were abused because they were naive and young and trusting, but so were many young men who joined the ghedli. They were all abused one way or the other. But women were more abused because of their gender even by those men who were abused. Yet no ACKNOWLEDGING! The abuse went on and is still going on, even among the eritrean communities in the diaspora.
        Therefore, women who use the tiny opportunity they get to make sometjing out of their lives deserve to be glorified for not giving up, for their courage and wisedom to still keep going on! I hope you agree wth me on this.
        As you said most high achievers in elementary school are young girls. But as they grow older they are made to carry the burdens of physiological changes and societal resposibilities. Most do not see themselves beyond being wives and mothers. Their focus on education fades etc. So Those who manage to get past these barriers deserve praise.
        The same with those who manage to go through whatever horrific experiences they faceed as women tegadelti. We should admire their couraged and tolerance/ endurance. No matter how few, some of them have made something out of whaever life they had left. They desreve utmost respect.
        Lamek I hope you now can see where we are coming from.

      • Tzigereda

        Dear Lamek,

        The entire eritrean society was affected by the brutal rule of Haileselassie and Derg. It was obvious that men and women – Gebar and Tegadelti – joined, supported and protected Ghedli and fought for liberation, as was the case with other liberation movments in the world. Patriotism was not imposed on us women. Both genders underwent the hardship of the journey. Ghedli is not to be blamed neither for that nor for the missed opportunity. I believe it is wise to distinguish between the cause and the conseqense – a debate we’ve had many times, though apparently not often enough. An honest appraisal and realistic approach of the facts that led to the launching of Ghedli does not preclude an analysis and discussion about its flaws and failures. However, postulating that women should have been spared from fighting for liberation constitutes a manifest fallacy of assessment.

      • Solomon Haile

        Selamat Lamek,
        By far your contrarian choice to this article and followers’ discussions is the best for yours truly to take a contrarian view worth the time… “‘ll be back!”
        tSAtSE

  • Kokhob Selam

    ….. እታ ኣደ ተጋዳሊት …….

    እታ ተጋዳሊት ኣደ ተጋደልቲ :-
    ……….ነዊሕ ዝዛንተኣ ዕግስቲ:-
    …………….ምዕሩግ ኣንደበታ ክብርቲ :-
    ………………..ዝተረባረበት ምስ መግዛእቲ ::

    ንገድሊ እያ ተፈጢራ :-
    ………..ተዳልያ ዝቀረበት ተሞኪራ :-
    …………….ብስርዓት ብባህሊ ተመርሚራ :-
    …………………ብስራሕ ትፍለጥ ብጻዕራ::

    ቅደመ ገድሊ ኣብ ስድራቤታ :-
    ምህሮ ይወሃባ ብወላዲታ :-
    ብደቂ ዓዳ ብጎሮባብታ :-
    ብዓበይቲ ኣዝማድ ሰናዱታታ ::
    ትኩስከስ ትዓቢ ስኢና ናጽነታ :-

    “ከምዚ ኢልኪ ኮፍ በሊ :-
    ……….ገምሻዕሻዕ ኣይትበሊ :-
    …………….ትእዛዝ ተቀበሊ :-
    ………………..ኮስትሪ ኣብስሊ ::”

    እናበልካ ትእዛዝ ዘይውዳእ ቀጻሊ :-
    ……….”እንጀራ ሰንክቲ ልወሲ ኣብስሊ :-
    …………….ዕቶሮ ተሰከሚ ማይ ገልሊ” :-
    ………………..ስቃይ እዩ ናብርኣ ዘይፍለ ካብ ገድሊ ::

    “ቀስ ኢልኪ ብልዒ ብሰለስተ ኣጻብዕቲ :-
    ብዝሕ ኣይት ስሓቂ ብዙሕ ኣይትጠምቲ :-
    ዝበልናኪ ግበሪ ኣይትዛረቢ ኣይትሕተቲ :-
    ድንን ኢልኪ ሕለፊ ርእስኺ ኣትሕቲ ::”

    እናበልካ ሕልፈት ኣዝዩ መሪር ህይወት :-
    ……….ኣይከበዳን ገድሊ ስለ ተዳለወት :-
    …………….ወይ ከ ፍጹም ነይተረፈት :-
    ………………ማዕረ ወዲ ተባዕታይ ድኣ ተቃለሰት ::

    እወ !!
    እቲ ስቃይ ናብራ ግዲ ኣዳልይዋ :-
    ናብራ ገድሊ መዓስ ከቢድዋ :-
    መውጋእትን መስዋእትን መዓስ ዓጂቡዋ :-
    ገል መዓት ውጻእ – ሕጅ ውን ኣለዋ ::

    ከም ‘ቲ ናይ ትማሊ ጸረ መግዛእትነት:-
    ሕጂ ውን ኣለዋ ኣብ መትከል ብጽንዓት :-
    ኣስመርቲ ኣሕበርቲ ጸረ ግባትነት :-
    መስል ይወሃብን ይምረሓ ሓርነት ::

  • Kokhob Selam

    Dear awate friends,

    My good son was reading this article and my good wife and my good daughters and all good kids were silently hearing. My good grandmother join us and we completed it. we had nice time but my good grand mother wants me to translate it ..I try my best and here is some part of it.

    “ደድሕሪ ‘ቲ ጀግናን ሓያልን ወዲ ተባዕታይ ለባምን ጻዕረኛን ጓል ኣንስተይቲ ኣላ ” ኢሉ ጀሚሩ ምስ በልኩ ” እወ ሓቁ ሓቁ- ዝወደይ” ብምባል ንቀጻሊ ትርጉም ተጸበየት “እዚ ብሂል ደድሕሪ ዕውት ቃልሲ ኤርትራ ለባምን ተባዕን ትስፍውትን ጻዕረኛን ተጋዳሊት ነይራ ” ኢሉ ብምቅጻል ነቲ ባህላዊ ምቅሉልነቱ ትሕትንኡን ዘንጸባረቐን እሞ ድማ ነዛ ዓንቀጽ ድምቀት ክብርን ብዝሃበ መልእኽቲ እዩ ጀሚርዎ ” እዚ ጽሑፍ ምሉእን ፍጹምን ዘይምዃ ይርደኣኒ እዩ :- እቲ ምንታይሲ ዝተደነቐ ፍሉጥ ሉሉይ ብዘይምዃነይን ንዝተሓላለኸ ዛንታ ናይ ምቅራብ ክእለት ስለዘይብለይን :”

    “በዚ ምኽንያት ነዛ ጽሑፍ ከቅርብ እንከለኹ ብስክፍታ እየ ዘቅርባ ዘለኹ – ዋላ ክንዲ መቅድም ወይ መእተዊ ‘ውን ትበቅዕ ኣይኮነትን ”

    ኣይተስተዋሕድዎ ዝዓነቱ መልእኽቲ – ብምቅጻል “ንምንታይ ሲ ላዕሊ ላዕሊ ድኣ ተናኸፍኩ እምበር እቲ ዛንታ ዘቆንዙን ከቢድ ሓላፍነት ዘሰክምን ጀግነታዊ ዛንታ ስል ዝኾነ ” – ካብ ውቅያኖስ ብማንካ ዝዓይነቱ – እታ በላሕ ብርዒ ኣብ ብራና ምውቃጣ ብምቅጻል “የግዳስ ክለዓል ዘለዎ ኣርእስቲ ዝገብርዎ – ንሕና ኣቦታት ኣቦሓጎታ ኣሕዋት ኣኮታትን ሓወቦታትን ሰብኡትን – ኣብ ልዕሊ ‘ዛ ጥቅውቲ ጓል ኣንስተይቲ ዝወርድ ዘሎ ገሃነማዊ- ተደጋጋምን- ቀጻልን – :- ግፍዕታትን መጥቃዕትታትን በቲ ስርዓት መሰላ ተነፊጋ ንርኢ ስለዘለና እዩ :”

    እዛ ጥቅውቲ ጓል ኣንስተይቲ ክትሳቐ እንከላ ንሕና ውን ንሳቐ – ገዛ ኣልቦ ለማኒት ክትውን እንክላ: ንሕና ውን ገዛ ኣልቦን ለመንትን ንኸውን:- ክትጠሚ እንከላ : ንጠሚ ::ክትበኪ እንከላ ንሕና ውን ንበኪ ::ክትጭኮንን ክትእሰርን እንከላ ንሕና ውን ንጭኮንን ንእሰርን :: መሬታን ማይ ባይታን ክትሓድግ እንከላ ንሕና ውን ናብ ስደት ንዳረግ:: ኣብ ሰሃራ በረኻ ኣካላ ክበታተን እንከሎ ንሓና ‘ውን ኣካላትና ፋሕ ፋሕ ይብል:: ኣብ ውቅያኖስ እንተተዋሒጣ ንሕና ውን ንጠልቕ:: ክቡር ኣካላ እንተተደፊሩ ንሕና ‘ውን ተደፊርና ማለት እዩ : : ክትጉሂ እንከላ ንሕና ውን ጓሂ ይኸበና :: እዚ ኩሉ ግን ሰለምታይ? ስለምንታይ ?ስለምታይ ?ስለምንታይ? ስለምንታይ ?” ብምባል ሓሙሽተ ስለምንታያት የንብር :: ነቲ ሓሙሽተ ግዜ ሕተት ዝብል ከኣ ኣዘኻኸረና ::

    ሒጂ ውን ግና ነቲ ምዕሩግ ባህርያታ ምስ ስቃይታ ኣደባሊቚ ናይቲ ጉዳይ ምረትን ኣገዳስነቱን ክስቆረና እዩ መስለኒ ” ሓላይት – ኣዕባይት – ናባይት – ጥቅውቲ – ውርዝይቲ – ሓብቲ – ሰበይቲ -ሓቀኛ ተኸታሊት እስልምና – ሓቀኛ ተኸታሊት ክርስትና ጥቅውቲ ጓል መታሕትን ከበሳን – ጥቅውቲ ስለዝነበረት እያ ጥቅውቲ ተጋዳሊት ክትከውን ዝብቐዐት :: ” ኣብ ገድሊ ብቅዕቲ ዘግበርዋ ረረቛሒታትን ክብደቶምን ንምዝርዛር ዝዳሉወና መእተዊ ከስፍር እንክሎ ” ዘይከም ወዲ ተባዕታይ ኣወዳት ሰብኡትን ኣሕዋትን ገድሊ – ንሳ ብዝለዓለ ንገድሊ ዝተፈጥረትን ዝተዳለወትን እያ ነይራ ::”

    “ካብ ህጻንነታ ክሳብ ጉርዝና ኢልካ ‘ውን ንቀጻሊ ህይወታ ስረሓት ብጽፈትን ብልዑል ክእለትን ክተከናውን ብጽዑቕን ፈታንን ልምምድ ንዝመጽእ ከቢድ ግዜን ኩነታትን ዘዳሉ ሰዓታት ትንፋስ ብዘይህብ ከቢድ ስራሕ ክትሰርሕን ትግበር :: እታ ውርዝይቲ ኣዲኣን ጎረባብታን ደቂ ዓዳን ንድኽመትን ወጀሃላይነትን ዕድል ዘይህብ ጻዕርን ጠባይን ክትውንን ውራይና ኢለን ዝተሓሓዘኦ ጉዳይ እዩ :” ብምባል ነቲ ዳርጋ ከም መርበብ ዝግለጽ ምትእስሳርን ምትሕብባርን ናይቲ ሕሰብ -ኣብ ምፍጣር ሓያል እምንትን ምእዝዝትን ጓል ኣንስተይቲ ዘሎ ኢደይ ኢድካ ይገልጽ:: እሞ ግና ልብና ክሳብ ግርም በቲ ጉዳይ ዝትንከፍ ነቲ ጉዳይ ኩልዕ ኣቢሉ ክርእይና ጉዕዝኡ ይቅጽል :ብራና !

    ተኣምር እዩ ተኣመር ብምባል ክቅጽል ደለየት ግን ድኻም ከምዘለዋ ኣብ ገጻ ኣንበብኩ :I feel she is tired and I told her we will continue after sometime

    and I start writing my poem on the topic. enjoy it after around 10 minutes.

    • Kibreab

      Dear Kokhob,
      Thank you for the poem and the translation. I will share the translation to the few Good tegadalai and women of Eritrea.

      On a personal note, did you grow up in B.Dar?

      • Kokhob Selam

        Dear Kibreab,
        yes do that. I was typing fast and sure there will be some mistakes. But Sure I will write one again when I complete translating to my grandmother now at 100..

        Yes but I know most of Ethiopian and Eritreans towns thanks to Gedli. Go to my facebook page to be friend with me.

  • WEDI JOMO

    Welcome back AKlilu!

  • Tzigereda

    Dear Aklilu,

    A brilliant masterpiece. Thanks for this heartwarming tribute and deserved recognition to The Tegadalit. It made me revisit the time of Ghedli, a virtual déjà vu; as though it were only yesterday.
    One thing I still remember very well is the way we tried to handle one of our day-to-day “challenges” at the very beginning of the military training in kifli taIlim: the meadi (meal). Our male comrades were obviously used to big-size chunks (Kulaso) since they used all five fingers. We were somewhat too slow and used the three-fingers technique picking tiny portions. Hence the lunch would be over before we could achieve three kulasos. We decided to set up a meadi only for women. One meadi was composed of eight tegadelti. However, this shrewd-meant design was short-lived. Soon afterwards our trainers decided that we should be distributed. Not more than three women were allowed at one meadi. A good decision though, since we in the meanwhile had adapted to and were well-versed with a five-finger take-up almost as fast as our male comrades. In retrospect, I think this stood symbolically for the necessity of joining the “male meadi” equally in order to achieve equality ( in the long run) in every aspect of the social revolution.
    There was no department where female tedadelti were not involved or part of: military, medical care, education, garage, social affairs, information (Bet xiHfet zena), political cadres of the different mass organizations, cooperatives… and they did it with an excellence enduring many hardships.

    Thank you again for the tribute, to those who lost their lives, to those who are disabled and those who are still alive. We have come a long way, achieved lots. We made many sacrifices and witnessed some setbacks, which need to be challenged by both men and women.

  • saay7

    Selamat all:

    This is yet another great addition by Aklilu Zere on the Eritrean Woman. It is a continuation of his seminal pieces:

    1. The Era of Chaos of Colonizers and Women – http://awate.com/the-era-of-chaos-colonizers-and-women/

    2. Men And Women of Kebessa – http://awate.com/men-and-women-of-kebessa/

    3. What Italian Colonialism Did To My People Of Eritrean Kebessa – http://awate.com/what-italian-colonialism-did-to-my-people-of-eritrean-kebessa/

    What Aklilu is arguing here is that the harsh life demanded by Ghedli was a better fit for the Eritrean woman than the Eritrean man because the Eritrean woman’s life was already a long and highly demanding bootcamp and thus the Ghedli was an extension of it.

    How this is then translated as “Ghedli was the liberation of the woman” requires another argument and another writer.

    saay

  • GualEritrea

    Dear Akililu, Great article and to the point explaining, one day I hope the stories of all Eritrean women is written, because without having written articles and books Women’s participation in the Eritrean Revolution or other achievements can never be fully recognised by society.

  • Lamek

    Dear Aklilu Zere, it is another piece of masterful writing by a very long list of Eritreans who have mastered the English language to a mind boggling degree.

    But everything you described above is very abnormal for any society to subject its good woman to such harsh conditions. Men and women have equal mental capacities, aptitudes, tendencies for anything, but physically, they are not the same. If you have taken Biology 101, you will not argue with me.

    So why did we subject our dear women to what you described above? That is what is unfair. It is cruel, selfish, and inconsiderate. Yes, women will do anything with shear determination but they should never be subjected to such extremely harsh environments as in Ghedli. If they were nurses and the like, I can totally agree with that but I strongly oppose subjecting women to combat duties. No matter how much you and others glorify the torture of Eritrean women in medda, it is still wrong and should never have happened. Our women are glorified when we give them great education, good environment to become financially independent, and create families of their own on their own will. The university that I am going to has 55% women (of course 99.9% of which are white). Look at Hillary Clinton. Do we have Eritrean women in any positions of meaningful responsibility in Eritrea? If they were as heroic as their men counterparts, why don’t we have women colonels or generals? Please don’t tell me there are three or four that you know.

    We can admire what they dealt with and how heroically they withstood all the harshness of medda but we should then try ourselves in court for subjecting our women in a war created by men and to such extremely harsh and unbearable environment.

  • Peace!

    Dear Aklilu,

    Definitely good article and good read; in fact, one of the best articles of all time. Please write more often.

    Peace!

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Dear Aklilu (our branna),

    Good assessment on our good women and good tegadelti women. They deserve enormous respect for their contribution to a family, to a society, and of course to the cause of Eritrean revolution. Well said and well recieved my dear colleague. No one can narrate about our good women more than you.

    Regards,
    Amanuel Hidrat

  • Nitricc

    Hey AKlilu; good read!
    My firm and unflinching belief that Eritrea will be the greatest nation than any other African countries is based on deep foundation of Eritrean women. True, due to relentless attacks from external forces and hostile situations in the country; the progressions of Eritrean women did not progress as they should have but it does not mean they regressed. At the opportune time, I have no doubt Eritrean women will have their rightful place in Eritrean society; They earned it!!! There was a great fan fair when a super power country announced that women will participate in a combat zone in a front line; well, that is well and good but long before that the brave Eritrean women did it all. I could have played Xegem-Yelen-Haftey a great tribute concert to Eritrean women but the moda will have a problem with it. However let me tell you how strong I feel about the importance of women to one society; simply said

    “You educate a man; you educate a man. You educate a woman; you educate a generation.”

    • Lamek

      Nitricc, okay, now you are starting to make a grown-ups contribution. You only forgot to mention that PFDJ has dealt the emancipation of women with a big blow. I see in the diaspora, they have divided the women in to fragments. Where I live, there are four or five women’s organizations. Because PFDJ tries the org to report to the embassy like YPFDJ, community centers (now conveniently called civic centers), and the orthodox church. Some brave women, refuse to bow and they are kicked out so they create their own association. PFDJ is a cancer to Eritreans all over the world. That is why I am begging my dear Ethiopian brothers and sisters to help us rid of IA and PFDJ. I will bet you anything that weyane cannot be worse to us than PFDJ.

      • Dis Donc

        Dear Lamek,

        Actually, you will be surprised what this kid, Nitric, is capable of, when it comes to thinking. You have to read many of his comments to understand it but he is a great potential. Over the course of my reading of his comments, which I found some of them filled with repulsive and degrading words to some ethnic groups, I had to accept that he has a well structured thought. But it beats the hell out of me as to why he is not on the democracy side.

        Dear Nitric,

        When it comes to women, governments in the whole world did very little to provide opportunities, barring a few western societies. Mostly in Africa and the Middle East, and especially Eritrea. Most women had to eke a living out of nothing, take many abuses of physical and psychological nature, get tied-up with domestic issues, and be women at the same time to reach where they are today. I understand that they have to earn it like, anybody else, but they need to be given the opportunities. Men, on the other hand, have had it all, from the beginning of time immemorial up to now.

    • sara

      Dear Nitrikay
      well said and to the point. keep it up!

  • Hayat Adem

    Aklilu,
    Thank you. What a piece! If I have to say it in money language, I could pay a book rate price to read such an article and I would feel benefiting much 1000x that amount.
    It is a deservingly timely article to build up on Tzegereda’s great article wash away all the inconviniently wrong comments that were puctuating our discussion on the bad hands of the nights.
    Hayat

  • G. Gebru

    Dear Aklilu Zere,
    Best of greetings,

    Even though I can’t say I am a regular reader of you articles, I think this article proves to me your relentless good will efforts to bring social harmony in this confused and troubled Eritrean social fabriC.
    Even though I can’t say they don’t know what your article is wittnessing about one Important and determental organ of our well being and existance as a society I hope it will be awake up call to all those who give lipservice to the Eritrean mother to come to their senses and give her her due place in her society.
    Thank you,
    God bless the relentless mother.

  • dawit

    Dear Aklilu Zere,
    Simply the best! I can say it is the best article I ever read at Awate.com
    Thank you Sir
    dawit

  • sara

    Dear Ato zerai
    we will be celebrating women day in few days time and your article is really ..really excellent and befitting the occasion. if you allow me i will enlarge it and post it in my place for all who visit to learn what is Eritrean women in general and tegadelti in particular. A very passionate , educational and a rebuttal essay to those who try to paint wrong picture about women in sewra Eritrea .
    thank you once again Mr zerai.

  • Bayan Nagash

    Dear Aklilu & Awatawyan,

    Since Tsigereda’s article (“Secret of The Night: http://awate.com/mistir-leyti-secret-of-the-night/) I have been thinking hard and long to compose a thought, to let the seeds of thought to germinate into an article size piece. Fleeting thoughts here and saved notes there, but nothing could cohere to my liking. Of course time is the major factor to all this – time is just isn’t on my side now- a-days. To show solidarity with my Eritrean sisters that the fight toward justice starts when women like Tsigereda dare to stand their ground and dare to divulge their personal stories, thereby making us see the uphill battle they had to face and endure – all such wrath just because they wanted to contribute toward the discourse of sociopolitical landscape, albeit testosterone dominated space of contention.

    Thank goodness your ink came galloping in the nick of time to put my nerves at ease, because the lyrical way in which you paint a picture of an Eritrean woman, make that tegadalit Eritrean woman, is remarkably gut wrenching. It didn’t even dawn on me in how these brave Eritrean women handled such matters as a mother nature’s monthly call of life affirming experience that should be celebrated , deemed, and rendered holy; instead, it is seen as something undesirable, something not only to be hidden, but must not be recognizable by men who – by the way – were ready to die on a moment’s notice and there was nothing more gorier than the kind of violent death they were willing to put themselves through fighting for a cause they believed in. Yet, somehow, biological reality as menstruation is something that must be hidden from men. Something that had life affirming without which humanity can be extinct in one generation is treated as a taboo and your words in this regard are worth re-quoting here:” Prudence, secrecy and discretion were of utmost importance during menstrual periods. No man, no boy should know or detect!! Exactitude was her Good mother’s unflinching tool. And the end result was perfection. The Good girl became a Good Mother, a Good Woman.”

    This is my convoluted way of saying thank you for forging onward to elevate the discussion about an important topic that should really be an ongoing endeavor. Post-independence, Eritrean women’s role had been one of silence and ever more so drastically and harshly. Consider 25 thousand former Eritrean tegadelti women being made to retire, (retirement I am cognizant connotes positive image, but the reality is in Eritrean context it does not). This draconian action by the clueless regime was met by a great deal more of sacrifice, wretchedness, and by some accounts, to say that some of these brave Eritrean women were nonplussed is a mother of understatements; for the reality was that that was the end of their lives as they knew it. Women who survived the most gruesome war of independence had to self-annihilate is yet another ultimate crime committed by the menace seating at the helm of power at home.

    What a treat. I was up to do some work, but I am eternally grateful for such a free treat in a wee hours of the night. Humbled and thankful that awate.com is here when I need a reprieve from the daily grind,well in this case nightly grind (self imposed one at that) and writers like Aklilu are there to accommodate, wish you write more often, sir.

    Sincerely,
    Beyan/Bayan