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The Good Tegadalit

 As the saying goes, “Behind every successful man, there is a strong, brave, wise and hardworking woman”, it is also true without an iota of doubt: behind the successful Eritrean Gedli, there was a strong, wise, courageous, selfless, resilient and hardworking Tegadalit

This article is incomplete and imperfect. And the main reason is, I humbly admit, I am not the one qualified to write the complete, legendary and complex story. This article is also so condensed and short, I honestly feel embarrassed to post it. It cannot be an introduction either for it hardly scratches the surface of the harrowing, long, painful, burdensome and heroic history. But it has to be initiated because we the fathers, grandfathers, brothers, uncles, husbands of the Good woman are witnessing a living hell that is befalling over the Good woman who is repeatedly and incessantly receiving the brunt of the force of tyranny, despotism and oppression. It is uncalled for; it is unfair, it is crime against humanity period.

When the Good woman suffers, we all suffer. When the Good woman becomes homeless and beggar, we all become homeless and beggars. When the Good woman is hungry, we all are hungry. When the Good woman cries, we all cry. When the good woman is bullied and harassed, we all are harassed and bullied. When the Good woman is imprisoned, we all are imprisoned. When the Good woman abandons her land and her roots we all become refugees. When the Good woman’s remains are scattered in the desert sand, our bodies are scattered in the desert sand. When the Good woman drowns, we all drown. When the Good woman’s body is abused, we are all abused. When the Good woman’s spirit is down, we all are hopeless. When the Good woman is violated, we are all violated. There is no way around these facts. But, Why, Why, Why, Why and Why?

This is how I introduce the Good tegadalit:

By nurture and nature she was Good girl. She was Good sister. She was Good Woman. She was Good Moslem. She was Good Christian. She was Good Gual Metahit. She was Good Gual Kebesa.

So she became Good Tegadalit. No question about these qualifications.

Unlike the Good boys, Good men and Good brothers of Gedli, she was ready-made for Gedli. This assertion is not exaggeration or misleading embellishment.

From childhood until maturity and then the balance of her life, she was meticulously, expertly, and harshly trained and primed for hard, tedious and painful work. Her Good mother and as a matter of fact all Good women in her surrounding did not spare or slacken to forge, chisel, and harden her due diligence, skills, attitudes, behaviors, speeches and intelligence for life time family, village and neighborhood services whether she was a nomad girl, village girl, town girl  or city girl.

For the Good girl, leisure was unattainable dream. For the Good girl, Hope was vanity. For the Good girl, there was no way out. For the Good girl boredom was non-existent commodity. She could not run away for running away was tantamount to suicide and worse, dehumanization. She had no say. She had no right to disobey. She had no freedom. She had no room to wiggle. She had no time to rest. She cannot refuse. Absolute obedience, attention, readiness for punishment, concentration, and retention of what she learnt was her only salvation.

Mind you- the Good boys were spared of all these shackles that were singularly and directly imposed upon the Good girl.

The training regimen was conservative, repetitive, long, archaic, tedious and sometimes violent and abusive (by modern standards). Even the manner she sits; the way she walks; the manner she interacts with others; the style she dresses; the way she talks; the manner she eats; the way she cooks; the way she do manual laundry; the way she irons was dictated. Prudence, secrecy and discretion were of utmost importance during menstrual periods. No man, no boy should know or detect!! Exactitude was her Good mother’s unflinching tool. And the end result was perfection. The Good girl became a Good Mother, a Good Woman.

The Good was earned and deserved not merely given.

The Good girl was also trained to be tolerant, self-reliant and creative for without these virtues she will be mocked and she would become pariah among the Good women. She had to learn to make her own utensils for borrowing from others was shameful. During bad times she had to be creative to make something out of nothing to feed and clothe her family. If she succeeded, and better succeed, she will be showered with accolades that did mean nothing to her for she was also spiritually trained to avoid egotism and vanity.

The Good girl never complained when she awoke at down before everyone in her family  and hand milled grains (tihina, lenkita) for Kitcha; milked the goats to make birah, tesmi and likai; fetched water for the family from far away ruba with Mai Zmelee Utro or waterskin carried on her back ; never flinched when she collected wood and carried the load on her back; never complained about fumes from burning wood (or Kubo,Fandia- dried dunk  from cows and donkeys); never said I am tired while toiling (gardening, weeding) with a baby (sister, brother, niece, nephew, cousin) strapped on her back and so on and so forth.

No man, No boy does none of these back breaking tasks. It was Taboo. A Taboo that caused laziness, procrastinations and carelessness with dire consequences!

I don’t want the reader to think her mother or the women in her surrounding were cruel. They have been through it. It was singularly imposed over them as their natural [born] duty and responsibilities in Life. To the contrary the Good mother loved and adored her Good girl. She empathized and sympathized with her. The Good mother felt pain when she inflicted pain on her Good girl. But experience taught the Good mother that laxity was death. Consciously and sub-consciously the Good mother was preparing her Good daughter for the ultimate test. A test of Life or Death! The Test was to stoically bear the most painful of all pains (scientifically tested and proven): labor/delivery, unassisted by medication, nurses or doctors. Her Good mother also perfectly understood the cost and consequences of failure in a girl and it will be redundant on my side to elaborate more.

This was the Good girl who joined her Good brothers to fight Injustices. Because training never ceased during her upbringing, military training was not difficult for her. Actually it fitted her. Because hardship was part and parcel of her upbringing, the harsh life of Gedli was a variation and not novelty to her. In no time she became equal to the Good tegadalai and in some aspects, she excelled him.

The initial doubt [call it conservative, patriarchal or misogyny] about her was quickly evaporated. Not out of benevolence but because she proved it wrong. The Good tegadalit walked the walk and talked the talk. She stood her ground and confronted mockeries head on, with words and through actions.

The Good tegadalai walked, she walked equally. The Good tegadalai marched, she marched equally. The Good tegadalai battled, she battled. The Good tegadalai climbed hills, cliffs and mountains; she climbed hills, cliffs and mountains. The Good tegadalai descended valleys and gorges, she descended valleys and gorges. The Good tegadalai crossed river floods, she crossed river floods. The Good tegadalai got bites from snakes and scorpions; she got bites from snakes and scorpions. The Good tegadalai got malaria, she got malaria. The Good tegadalai was swarmed by lice, she was swarmed by lice. The good tegadalai tightened his belt, she tightened her belt. The Good tegadalai shaved or cut his hair; she shaved or cut her long, lustrous and beautiful hair. The Good tegadalai got wounded, she got wounded. The Good tegadalai stoically suffered from thirst and hunger, she stoically and bravely suffered from thirst and hunger. The Good tegadalai became disabled, she became disabled. The Good tegadalai died, she died. The Good Tegadalai paid dearly with his one and only life; she paid dearly with her one and only life.

But there was one exception, an exception that no Good man has to go through in his entire life. Through the entire shared and collective difficult and tragic journey, the Good tegadalai did not have to deal with painful menstrual periods. The Good tegadalai did not have to carry baby in his womb. The Good tegadalai did not have to suffer from the king of pains: labor and delivery. But she did.

The Good tegadalit did it and she did it with Courage and Perfection. The good tegadalit did it with selflessness. The Good tegadalit did it with True Love and True Service for her family –The Eritrea Family.

Along the way the Good girl mimicked the land, a land that does not provide much; a rugged and jagged landscape; a land that required resilience and bottomless patience. Even in Sahel she made it, a land that resembles Mars and not Earth.

As painful as it was, when the Good tegadalit had to leave her baby behind in the camp to fulfill her call of duty in the front, even though it was Heart wrenching for a Good mother to separate from her baby, she obeyed for she accepted that her child was Eritrea and Eritrea was her child. Who Mother could do this?

What was the Good tegadalit worth?

Is there a price tag for her Herculean achievements? I don’t believe so and if there is I do not have the brain to Qualify, Quantify, Calculate and Tabulate the exact and fair worth or the full price of her service. Like King David said, if the sky was my BRANA, and the OCEANS my ink, even this will not suffice to describe her marvelous, incredible and selfless History.

And here I leave you with the following marvelous sayings from Good and Famous people:

A free race cannot be born of slave mothers. – Margaret Sanger.

Woman is the companion of man, gifted with equal mental capacity. – Gandhi.

Women are the real architects of society. – Harriet Beecher Stowe.

With deep and everlasting Love and Peace to the Good Tegadalit.

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  • Lamek

    Hey man, you are killing me. I am not sure how others see it but what you are writing her is simply brilliant. This is Seinfeld material. Everything you write cracks me up. You are stressing out a lot of people but you are relieving lots of school stress for me.

    “Abyssianism is even relevant in the US presidential election. “

  • Amde

    ‘Gheteb,

    When did you get the time to write this? Were you getting your hooves pedicured.. sorry .. hooficured?

    Like this….?

    https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/ec/a3/89/eca389594d879938e89c4eebdf7e1dde.jpg

    Amde

  • Fanti Ghana

    Hello Everyone,

    Happy International Women’s Day!

    ( I will say more later )

  • Lamek

    Breaking down Gheteb’s diatribes for dummies.

    Selam Ayneta, Amde, and all Awatinos (yes including Gheteb):

    If any of you have any trouble understanding Gheteb’s grandiose English vocabularly, below is a simple technique to break down the meanings of each big word he uses without having to get out your old and dusty dictionary from underneath boxes and boxes of books (in my case anyway). Let’s look at the latest four big words from today’s post to Ayneta. I should post in response at the bottom of the thread but I like this tool to be used by all.

    Rebarbative

    Hoisting

    Petard

    ill behooves

    Let’s use context without having to look up a dictionary to breakdown these words:

    “…a rebarbative character like you…” This phrase has been used on the ‘fascist dergue and denizen of Planeta Abyssinicus” Amde and Ayneta as well. Gheteb doesn’t regard these two individuals highly at all so that big word has to be a negative word. In the second part of the sentence, Gheteb continues with “…taste your own medicine…” So rebarbative has to mean something on the order of “intolerable, objectionable, unpleasant…”

    Petard. This one was tough so I took “hoisting you by your own petard” as an idiom and tried to break it down that way. I took it to mean “to be hurt by your own ill-thoughts to others, which was meant to harm them.” So petard is some kind of tool, like a sword maybe or a stick.

    Hoist: see above. It is mintiltal (ምንጥልጣል) in Tigrinya or something like that as in raise or lift up using ropes but we can only take the whole idiom to make sense of use of that word in that idiom.

    Ill-behooves: this one should be simple. Ill is a negative word, so behoove must be a positive word. Looking back at the sentence, “…it ill behooves you to want to engage with a person…”, we can easily infer that behoove means, “suit, fit, adequate, etc…” So ‘it ill behooves you’ would mean it is not suitable for you or it doesn’t befit you…

    • Amde

      Selam Lamek,

      Since you gave me the courage to go on, I did additional research.

      rebarbative: unattractive and objectionable

      – in my illustrated dictionary, it shows ‘Gheteb’s face as an example. In his dictionary, there is a reflecting mirror at that spot. ‘Gheteb is dim, but if he stares with much avidity into the reflecting sheet, he may perceive his own rebarbative self.

      “Hoisted by one’s own petard” : Injured by the device that you intended to use to injure others

      Example: ,’Gheteb is a prisoner of his own ‘SEVERELY ignore’ contraption, and finds he can neither ignore nor not ignore Amde. ‘ Gheteb is dim. In this case dim-witted. Too dim to tell his own petard is his problem.

      Ill-Behoove: having a bad or undesired effect.

      Example: It ill behooves ‘Gheteb to come to a “discussion forum” and post stuff that is unintelligible to the other discussants. But ‘Gheteb is dim. In this case, too dim sighted, so he is not sure if he has two hooves or four. He might start braying soon. Stay on alert for the hee-haw.

      Amde

    • ‘Gheteb

      Selam Lamek,

      I will deconstruct your attempt of “Breaking down Gheteb’s diatribes for dummies” post and at the end I will give it a letter grade.

      (1) your selection of the word diatribe is inaccurate. You could have used another term such as commentary, criticism, rebuttal or even a post would have been more appurtenant.

      (2) You have used the word “grandiose” wrongly. This word is used primarily to describe grandiose facades, grandiose plans and similar other things. For vocabulary and writing style, the more germane term would have been “flowery”, “grandiloquent”, “ornate” etc. etc….

      (3) You claim that your break down in deciphering the meaning of the words was all based on context. I don’t buy that the break down was all seat-of-the-pants. I suspect that you have either used a dictionary or you had some prior familiarity with the words.

      (4) You say that you are “infatuated’ with the expression ” Amanuel Hidrat ኣባ ጓይላ ክትዕ” but you didn’t offer an explication as to why you deem that expression to be appositely felicitous.

      (5) Made’s , CS, incorrect usage of words continues unabated. From his incorrect use of the word scintilla, he is now wrongly using the words rebarbative and avidity. CS has misconstrued rebarbative as if it only applies to image. His use of the word avidity is also wrong.

      (6) Kim Hanna, the resident of a half-way house, has nominated for a portfolio “as the “Minister of [the] Pen” in the imaginary kingdom Abyssinia that all the adherents of Abyssinian fundamentalism are woolgathering about. I have to tell you this the best example of what I dub as “Applied Abyssinian Fundamentalism”.

      I was goining to give you a C as your final grade, but I have decided against it. For now, your grade will remain as an incomplete ( I ), because I believe that you are very bright and you could do a better job.

      To complete this assignment, all you need to do is deconstruct “Applied Abyssinian Fundamentalism” in whatever format you choose. Once your assignment is complete, you will receive your final grade.

      • Amde

        Lamek,

        ‘Gheteb gave me reason to rewatch one of my favorite movie clips, Monty Python’s Life of Brian – “Romanus Eunt Domus”, (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIAdHEwiAy8) where the Roman Centurion is offended more by the language used to insult him than the insult itself.

        For that, I thank the Meto Aleqa..

        Please note though: His language is a lot more readable now. He really means to teach you.

        Amde
        PS. ‘Gheteb don’t get your panties in a bunch.. I know I replied to your post.. I wanted to make sure you see yourself in this clip.

      • ‘Gheteb

        Selam All,

        Note to observer(s) of CS, (ኣምደ)
        (A) CS’s palpable rationalization and readily discernible attempt of ‘explaining away’ episodes of interest.
        (B) Obsession with panties and butts. Why?
        (C) A clear and unceasing attempt of animalization of CS’s bête noir.

  • Music Novice

    Greetings Horizon,

    You are mixing up many things. Come back after you have clarified your thoughts to yourself.

    • Ted

      Hi MN, it is interesting how our immigrant friends take this liberty and civil right hogwash to the heart. Trump spoke to the people who matters and they responded accordingly. Are we in denial that our opinions matter. White American do what they have to do when their majority status, the position always enjoyed making decisions for others, is threatened. Recently Europeans warned immigrants not to come to Europe and some of them built fences around their border.
      http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/03/europe-eu-donald-tusk-warns-refugees-160303135255252.html
      In a few years, the far right conservative parties will take hold in Europe Union to defend their way of life and the time will come they tell us, immigrants, frankly why we are in their country and to act accordingly. That is how human nature works since the day of creation; defending your kind, value and territory.
      To the south to the south.

      • Music Novice

        Greetings Ted,

        Characters such as Horizon, Amde, Abi, and Yoty Topy are guided by fantasy based, anarchist loony leftist ideology.

        The current influx of economic (pseudo-political) immigrants who arrive in Europe and North America after jumping many countries in between is more worrying to the previous generation of settled immigrants. It is very destabilising and destroys social cohesion.

        Far right organisations are already on the march.

  • Lamek

    Dear Awatinos:

    I recommend you all read the exchanges between ‘Gheteb and Amde (or is it Made, A mde). ‘Gheteb doesn’t admit he is exchanging any debates with Amde. Amde thinks Gheteb is obsessed with him because he can’t pull in a single 24 hour period with out mentioning his (Amde’s) name.

    It is extremely entertaining and I was embarrassed laughing loud in front my laptop screen as others watched. Here is a sample of the exchanges:

    “Because I am such a sweet guy, I will be gracious enough to NOT restart the clock.”

    “All I can tell you is that the man is ‘badly’, I mean ‘BADLY’, hallucinating.”

    “Heck, I would even go so far as inventing your own eponymous pace such “GHETEBLY”…”

    “You are an insufferably rebarbative character, please don’t add to that by acting like that dunce progeny of the fascistic Dergue, Amde….”

    “I really didn’t deserve such honor… Tut.. tut… Is the severity index of your ignoring machine slipping? Hummmm?”

    “Just look at how foolishly that denizen of Planeta Abyssinicus, Amde, is acting.”

    “The adherent of Abyssinian fundamentalism, Made, has gone bonkers! He is responding to Ayneta by replying to ‘Gheteb.”

    “You know the expression, ” baffle ’em with bulls#!t” ? That’s our ‘Gheteb right there.”

    • Kim Hanna

      Selam Lamek,
      .
      I thought, I was the only one laughing and crossing myself, asking forgiveness.
      .
      I hereby nominate you as the “Minister of Pen” to shade light on what he is saying, as well as, what he is trying to say.
      .
      “baffle ’em with bulls#!t” is such a nice crisp succulent descriptive phrase, I cannot think of anything else that fits. ( I looked up succulent for emphasis)
      .
      From now on I will just read your comments. There is no point in both of us going to…the place that is not heaven.
      .
      Mr. K.H

  • ‘Gheteb

    ‘Gheteb’s Bits And Bytes: A lunacy And Foolishness Too Manifest To Ignore

    Selam All,

    Ever since Amde was placed on the SEVERELY ignored list, he has left no stone unturned to get off that list. He erroneously thinks that he will be able to finagle out of this list resorting to all manners of subtle and not too subtle means.

    I have told him, time and again, that won’t happen. He is still persisting in his efforts. The question is will be able to come out of that SEVERELY ignored list? All I can say is FAT CHANCE.

    Now he is literally going bonkers right in this forum and right in front of our eyes. What do I mean? Just follow the EXHIBITS.

    EXHIBIT (A)

    Here is A mde under a severe conniption responding to Ato. Ayneta, but ended up replying to ‘Gheteb.

    ” Amde ‘Gheteb • 2 hours ago

    Selam Ayneta,
    Uh oh… I think he is going to use big Tigrinya words. You might want to invest in a Ge’ez dictionary as well. Just saying…

    Made ”

    EXHIBIT (B)

    Here he is A mde in the grips of utter hysteria, claiming to possess the ability of seeing and deciphering what I have done. All I can tell you is that the man is ‘badly’, I mean ‘BADLY’, hallucinating. I am here swearing I have NOT made any changes or editing at all in the time frame that A mde is alluding to.

    ” Amde ‘Gheteb • 37 minutes ago
    ‘Gheteb,
    Oh my god that was funny!! You actually went back and corrected the spelling of my name. Hahahah….
    Much obliged, sir.. much obliged….
    A mde ”

    This is just too manifest of a state of non compos mentis to ignore. Hence why I am just registering my observation as I don’t exchange directly with this person. I DON’T !

    But rest assured that he will respond to this post posthaste and I am sure he will leave telltale signs of the fact the he has gone batty!

    • Amde

      Selam ‘Gheteb,

      You forgot to correct the spelling of my name under Exhibit A.

      It is A to the M to the D to the E.
      It is not M to the A to the D to the E.

      Plus, i asked you not mention me for a period of 24 hrs. I don’t think you were able to make it through one hour. That is a bad sign.

      Because I am such a sweet guy, I will be gracious enough to NOT restart the clock.

      If you can’t ignore me SEVERELY, try to ignore me “gently”,

      Amde

    • Amde

      Selam ‘Gheteb,

      Just chimed in to say you are doing great. You are actually in your third hour, which is a marked improvement since last time.

      Carry on .. I will come in with words of encouragement every once in a while. Like I said, gently beats SEVERELY every time.

      Amde

    • ‘Gheteb

      Selam All,

      An addendum to previous observations:

      (A) Genesis and triggering event(s) of the case study (CS) named Amde ( ኣምደ)

      1. CS made two erroneous and egregious claims that were shown to be mendaciously wrong and were therefore debunked.

      (a) CS claimed that The Central Dogma of Eritreanism is of a fascist provenance.

      (b) CS asserted that the term scintilla was countable.

      Once it was shown to CS beyond a shadow of a doubt that on both counts he was WRONG, he didn’t only reject the corrections so stubbornly, he even went to claim that so far as he is concerned he is going to say “one scintilla, two scintilla, three scintilla …. this claim is even without adding an “s” or “e” in the manner of “one job”, ” two jobs”, “three jobs”…. to show the singularity and plurality of the object.

      OBSERVATIONS:

      CS is surely NOT amenable to corrections and rectifications. He is under the illusion that he does NOT make mistakes and therefore showing signs of “the infallibility syndrome” and therefore has gone wildly DEFENSIVE.

      The fact that CS doesn’t want to admit his mistakes is indicative of an inchoate delusion of grandeur and an incipient megalomania. The following are some of the sign that have so far been manifested by CS.

      (I) CS has gone atavistic and is quoting sayings in his native language about chicken and eggs.

      (II) CS wants to show that he is in control and has the final say. He has set the deadline of a 24 hours period in which he wants his name NEVER to be mentioned.

      (III) He is DEMANDING and INSISTING that his name to be spelled correctly and has provided the correct spelling of his name. This is bizarre in the sense that the spelling of his name is outside the control of those who happen to type his name.

      (IV) As was expected CS responded to ‘Gheteb’s post posthaste once again proving the validity of the standing theory.

      NO mitigation in the severity of signs and symptoms that was induced by the triggering event which is that CS has been SEVERELY ignored by ‘Gheteb.

      Next scheduled update when observable symptoms are manifested by CS.

      • Amde

        Oh my god ‘Gheteb,

        You are killing me. I was just about to go to bed, and boom.. like clockwork. I had actually penned a note praising you for pushing past the fourth hour. Man, i laughed for a good five minutes.

        So, you decided to change my name to CS? Very clever of you. .. almost Einsteinian in its deviousness. Now you will have less chances of misspelling my name No guarantees though……

        Let me see what else? What’s that? Scintilla cannot be counted? Oh no.. you don’t say? Well, butter my butt and call me biscuit!!

        So I know you are trying to both ignore me SEVERELY and, at the same time, not mention me for 24 hrs. For mere mortals, that is an eminently doable challenge. But for you, it appears to be a herculean juxtaposition, borne out of some unknown misbegotten devilry. Well, we all have our crosses to bear (not being sectarian by the way – you can carry whatever you want). You have my sympathies.

        On the fascistic provenance of the Eritrean Central Dogma.. You know the expression “My Karma Ate Your Dogma” Such Karma being a nation depopulated of its youth.

        That’s it. The clock has reset to midnight eastern. Once again, since you are the one SEVERELY ignoring me, please don’t mention me, even under the new alias CS you created for me, for a period of 24 hours. Otherwise, people might talk… your “SEVERELY Ignore” thing might be disbelieved.

        Amde

      • Ted

        Hi Gheteb, It shouldn’t be a surprise to you to see some characters (your CS) to flourish under the disguise of “we hate PFDJ/IA” while their real beef is different kind beast all together; they have serious and sickening malady with independent Eritrea. Lucky for them, they have individuals like aboguayla debate to meet and cheer them at every cross point. The Eritrean opposition have their work cut out for them; sifting those who are making the loud noise “i hate IA” on their behalf. .
        PS. there is a talk going around Warriors made history; the highest consecutive home game wins, as if it matters. I am sure, for strange reason, some people have their stat black book ready.

  • ‘Gheteb

    Selam Ayneta,

    Since you have admitted that you can hardly understand what I write, can I ask you a simple question, Ato Ayneta?

    Is someone holding a gun over your head and FORCING you to respond to my posts? Are you obligated to respond to my posts? Is that part of your job description?

    I think you are replying to my posts out of your own volition. To make your life easier, I have come up with a good solution.

    (1) I have decided to append a Tigrigna ( ትግርኛ ) translation to all my posts written in English. This ain’t happening anytime soon, though. You gotta wait patiently, Ato. Ayneta.

    (2) In the meantime, quit and desist acting like a Mantile (ማንቲለ), actually like a (ተባዕታይ ማንቲለ), if you know what I mean.
    (3) If you ignore (1) and (2), then you will end up with the following ‘Ghetebian treatment:
    (a) You will suffer a withering and massive retaliation, mind you in kind.
    (b) You will end up being pigeonholed in the SEVERELY ignored list. Please note that once you are in the SEVERELY ignored list, you won’t be able to get out of it. You won’t make to the less severe list of the “to be ignored” list. It is kinda of the Roach Motel. You can check in, but you will NOT check out.
    Need to see what I am talking about? Just look at how foolishly that denizen of Planeta Abyssinicus, Amde, is acting. The severity of being SEVERELY ignored is something that you wouldn’t wish to happen even to your worst enemy.
    Therefore, Mr. Ayneta the choice is yours and you are amply forewarned. I hope you hold your peace and respect my stands here.

    • Amde

      Selam Ayneta,

      Uh oh… I think he is going to use big Tigrinya words. You might want to invest in a Ge’ez dictionary as well. Just saying…

      Amde

    • Ayneta

      Gheteb…teb teb…
      Spare me of your bogus bravado…kindey akeb zeteretna….belet adghi….it seems you have all the time in the world at hand, abusing it in every way and angle you can…you are horrible at it…. keep on hiding behind those hallow words of yours… apparently you were bullied as a child…. that is why you are reverting to histrionic personality….. get help man…seriously, you need professional help….I bet you are a very lonely person, wasting in that little corner of yours which boats only a laptop and a debilitating table…possibly couple of spoons on the corner…not to mention the Charles Chaplin’s shoes underneath that miserable sofa that you also use for sleeping………and you are SEVERLY CONSTIPATED!

  • Amde

    Ayneta,

    Look up Donald Trump saying, “I got an ivy league education. I know words. I got words. I got the best words…” Here is a link… starts at 0:51. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7UIE_MRAhEA

    You know the expression, ” baffle ’em with bulls#!t” ? That’s out ‘Gheteb right there.

    He doesn’t really want to debate. He doesn’t have substance or relevance. He just wants to feel like the smartest kid in class. ‘Cause he got the best words…

    Amde

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Sir Amde,

      You got him, he is the “Donald Trump of Eritrea”. You make it my day sir. I can ‘t stop laughing for a while. Thank you.

      Regards
      Amanuel Hidrat

      • dawit

        Mr. Amanuel Hidrat,
        Stand on your own two feet rather than being a ‘remorkio or tesabi’.
        The Great MN asked you a simple question “What have you done in the last 25 years (1991-2016) for Eritrean common people. You fudge the answer in English and Tigrinya. Here now laughing because your boss try to put down MN the great instead of answering him the simple proof that MN asked him.
        Regards,

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          hey dawit,

          I have done my share in my young age when dawit “zneges negusna” ( during Haileselessie and Derg) was watching from Addis and when MN may be wasn’t born. By the way MN the hypocrite, is an escapee from the national service which the Eritrean people characterised it as modern slavery. How about that.

          • dawit

            Hey Amanuel,
            The Great MN was not asking what you did in your younger age, when you carried a gun aimlessly chasing you brothers and sisters. He is asking you what you are doing now at present time specifically from May 24, 1991-March 7, 2016 today as an adult. You are right about dawit, he was singing ‘zneges ngusna’ during HS and Derg time, and he is singing the same song during PIA time. Always consistent not blown by the passing wind.
            Regards,
            dawit

          • Music Novice

            Greetings Amanuel H.,

            When I lived in Eritrea, I have worked with ordinary folk sharing the ups and downs of their daily lives. During my stay, I was not required to do National Service by going to Sawa but, I believe, I have contributed enough labour for free or for a nominal wage in other areas.

            Calling the National Service modern slavery does not serve any purpose; it is not Realpolitik. But, you people in the so called opposition are not fit for purpose anyway.

            The indefinite National Service must be reformed, and can be reformed to a fixed one through good arguments and persuasion, not through confrontation. The best people, well positioned to effect change in a diplomatic way were the G15. But, unfortunately, they failed because they were least concerned with the welfare of the people and the country, rather being obsessed with their private agendas of humiliating Isaias.

    • Music Novice

      Greetings Amde,

      So, you think what Trump does is ” bffle ’em with bulls#!t”?

      Can you give a direct quotation of his speech where he does “baffle ’em with bulls#!t”?

      No links please!

      • Amde

        Greetings Music Novice,

        No, the expression ” Baffle ’em with bulls#!t” is a rather well known expression. I did not claim Trump used it. He may have used it, perhaps when discussing the substance of his speeches with his campaign staff. In this context, the video link and this saying were put together by me, your humble servant, sui generis.

        But to answer your direct question, yes he does baffle ’em with bullshit when he says the white working class will have good times when the Mexican rapists are deported. Would you not agree?

        Amde

        • Music Novice

          Greetings Amde,

          In the speech I heard, he said about the Mexicans something to the effect: Some of the Mexicans are drug dealers, some are rapists and there are some who are undoubtedly good people.

          He was right in what he said. I am not aware of him saying “the white working class will have good times…”.

          Amde, you need to quote what he said fully; which is a logical fallacy.

          • Amde

            Selam Music Novice,

            I am afraid your “something to the effect” is completely wrong Please read here (. http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/17/opinions/kohn-donald-trump-announcement/)

            He said mexico is sending its criminals and rapists. Then just to make sure people do not misunderstand him, he says “And SOME – I assume – are good people”

            First of all, “Mexico” is not sending anybody.. people are just coming of their own free will. And secondly, the usage of the word “SOME” is clearly intended to identify only a small minority from the population Mexico is allegedly sending. And thirdly, he claims that he is just generously “assuming” on his part that there is a chance they may be good people.

            The thing is, this was made at an event where he was reading prepared remarks. It was not a slip of the tongue, as he has not apologized for it since. It was specifically calculated to outflank the most conservative of the anti-immigration candidates on the right. You can’t really go further right than that. It was specifically targetted to outflank Cruz (I think). And it was also calculated to elicit the most reaction from he media and give him a springboard. As a political tactic it was a huge success.

            Amde

          • Music Novice

            Greetings Amde,

            By “Mexico sending …” does not necessarily mean the Mexico government, but it is highly likely that Mexican organised crime is involved. But still this is a minor issue.

            Also what his motives were and whether he was reading from prepared text are irrelevant.

            The key issues are that his remarks are correct and they reflect the feelings of some sections of the American people. Another grave issue is that you failed to quote him fully in order to portray him in the worst possible negative light.

          • Amde

            Selam Music Novice,

            “Another grave issue is that you failed to quote him fully in order to portray him in the most possibly negative light.”

            Really? You are worried Trump is going to come off in a bad light on Awate.com?

            If you are so concerned about Trump’s dainty sensibilities, why don’t you find the right quote from the link I sent you so he won’t be shown in a negative light? I would like to see you defend it.

            I have a question for you. Do you live in the US? Do you live with or among people that are Mexican immigrants? How many of them were rapists and drug dealers? 10%, 5%, 32.5? How much of it is fact, and how much of it is your “feeling” like you said is the “feeling of the American people”?

            Does “feeling” = fact?

            Amde

          • Music Novice

            Greetings Amade,

            It does not matter where the conversation is, be it Mars or the Moons of Jupiter. Truth is absolute.

            If you are interested in statistics you need to ask the various Police departments and the FBI.

            Another important thing you need to be aware of: to be able to enter or to get a residence permit to live in the USA is a privilege and not a right; for Mexicans or anyone else.

          • Amde

            Selam Music Novice,

            Minnew wedet sheshet sheshet? You accused me of misquoting Trump and I challenged you to show me where? You can’t claim interplanetary intercession.

            If you don’t mind me asking, are you going to vote for him?

            Amde

          • Music Novice

            Greetings Amde,

            – You did not quote Trump in full.

            – To be able to enter or to get a residence permit to live in the USA is a privilege and not a right.

            Example:Think of many people from a failed neighbouring village coming en mass to your village, creating pressure on your living space, transport, schools, hospitals and jobs. In addition, many of the new comers will be arriving with a lot of cultural baggage such as superstitions, taboos, religious mumbo jumbo.

            Don’t you think your village people have the right to choose who to let in?

          • Amde

            Selam Music Novice,

            Trump could have used your exact words and made his point. Heck I could agree with the way you articulated them They are all reasonable points. And they have been made by many people on the political spectrum.

            I used to live in Pennsylvania. Do you know where Lancaster Pa is? It is considered the heart of Amish country, the German descended religious sect that shuns modern technology, and prefers horse drawn carriages and manual water pumps. Very touristy and picturesque. But guess what? There are a lot of Mexicans there, and it is a lot more jarring than your typical American urban or suburban population. There are a lot of Michigan farms that relay on seasonal Mexican labor. Or Texas. These examples are just from my personal observation. There are a lot of white people that don’t like it, and I completely understand.

            Now these Mexicans are by and large working minimum wage manual labor jobs. They are mostly family oriented, hard working former peasants. Not rapists and criminals. Just like any population, there might be some criminals. But believe me they would not be there unless their cheap labor was too tempting. At the end of the day, they are there because of the capitalist system’s unquenchable need for low wage, easily exploitable labor.

            Trump chose to make his point in the most insulting way possible to Mexicans (and by extension Immigrants), while at the same time stoking the most emotional of nativist feelings. And he CHOSE to phrase it in such a way completely knowing how it is going to be perceived. He was playing demagogy knowing full well the fallout from it. Did he say anything as to why these people are here? No. Instead of saying these people are coming in to work as low.wage labor, he said they were coming in to rape and be criminals.

            Amde

          • Music Novice

            Greetings Amde,

            Whether you like it or not the bitter facts are:

            – To be able to enter or to get a residence permit to live in the USA is a privilege and not a right.

            – The American people should be allowed to decide who to allow in, based on a set of criteria.

          • Abi

            Hi Music
            Do you think the village people have the right to kick out these unwanted foreigners who are suffocating the locals just because they don’t like the color of their eyes?
            Or do you think it is ethically, morally right when a victor of a war inhumanly kick out the whole population just because they are not welcome anymore?
            Where are you going with this?

          • Ted

            Hi Abi.
            Yes you can kick out for any reason you believe appropriate; Eye color or for consuming too much tomato or milk.
            It is not about morally right or ethical rather we did it because we can if you want to believe your own BS.
            Don`t you have pressing matter at hand that the Amhara and all are being displaced in their own country,
            የቆጡን አወርድ ብላ የብብቶን ጣለች..People has moved on , will you.

          • Abi

            Hi Ted
            I guess everyone has its own reasons not to keep adgis or people with blue eyes.
            Your worries about the Amharas and Oromos are just fake. Don’t cheat yourself. You worried about internal displacement of Amaras while there is Eritrean exodus of biblical proportions.
            Your Amharic proverb works perfect in your situation. You try to rule over both countries, to steal from one to build the other. You lost one , the other is loosing you fast . 25 years after you liberated the piece of land, there are many more youths in Ethiopia than in Eritrea. Soon, more Eritrean babies will be born in Ethiopia than in Eritrea. Here , Ted the former qera cow abuser, is worried about the Amharas. It must be the qebesa thing.
            Ted, I have moved on NEVER to look back. Of course, it took me 180 months to do 180 degrees turn.
            Here is Amharic poem that fits you perfectly.
            ” yayesh ayalfshim, yeqemesesh aydegmshim .”

          • Music Novice

            Greetings Abi,

            You should answer the question you raised yourself, because it was a statement made by your former prime minister.

            Also, try to think straight, it will save you the trauma.

          • Abi

            Hi Music
            I have been thinking straight for years now. Really straight. I know what I need, I know what I don’t need. No trauma at all.
            The late PMMZ really knew how to deal with people with different eye colors.
            Now that I am thinking straight, what Mele did was a really well orchestrated drama.
            He supported your independence, he did everything for the referendum to go smoothly, he announced to the world that Eritrea is an independent country, he gave you some money for ” gojo mewchiya”, he let you steal a little, he told you it is time to stop stealing, you didn’t obey, he showed you the door and told you to close it behind you, you just did only to jump fence. 20/20 is not only clear , it is also STRAIGHT.
            No trauma!
            Only drama!
            You think it is karma?
            Ask Ted the qera korma.
            Don’t conspire on my Emama!
            Libih endaydema.
            Afih endaygema.

          • Yoty Topy

            Hi Music,

            I can’t believe I am seeing this kind of comment here ?

            ‘Think of many people from a failed neighbouring village coming en mass to your village, creating pressure on your living space, transport, schools, hospitals and job.’

            You suppose crossing oceans to bring herds of slaves , which by the way ,without them laboring in fields , Jefferson or anyone of the founding fathers wouldnt have the luxury to frolic about ‘Life, Pursuit of Hapiness….’ all that shenanigans which has been the cornerstone of this nation.

          • Music Novice

            Greetings YT,

            You are bringing matters that have no bearing on the issue at hand. Let’s discuss the here and now.

            Whether you like it or not the bitter facts are:

            – To be able to enter or to get a residence permit to live in the USA is a privilege and not a right.

            – The American people should be allowed to decide who to allow in, based on a set of criteria.

          • Dear MN,

            You, an Eritrean immigrant from a poor country somewhere in Africa (that is what it is for most Americans who have no idea about geography), with a different cultural baggage, and was once an economic burden to the US, has become a naturalized American citizen (rather the best American of them all), and you are saying that the border should be closed so that other immigrants do not sneak in and share your newly found paradise (if indeed it is a paradise), and contaminate your newly found culture and way of life. Don’t you think that this is a shameful thing to say as an immigrant yourself? Is this part of your theory that says, whoever he might be, follow the leader, as long as he is the leader?

            I hope Americans are self-respecting people, and they do not elect the clown Trump as their next president. If their aim is to enjoy a clown performing in front of them and laugh their hearts out, not a bad idea really. Nevertheless, enough is enough; and as the only world power, Americans should know that they have the the obligation not to make a world leader out of a clown.

          • Music Novice

            Greetings Horizon,

            “You, an Eritrean immigrant from a poor country somewhere in Africa, with a different cultural baggage, and was once an economic burden to the US …”

            Here, you are trying to project your situation on me, nothing more. To dispel your allegation, whichever country I lived at, I did not make an illegal entry and I did not break any rules. And where ever I settled I blended in with the local culture and did not try to impose quirky, superstitious and archaic modes of thought on my hosts.

            Try to make an illegal mass entry into Saudi Arabia, Russia, China, Japan or even Ethiopia, to name but few, and inform me if you can get away with it.

            The problem with you, Amde, Abi and Yoty Topy is that you cannot think logically and face the facts. Furthermore, you are committing a Straw Man argument fallacy by jumping from one issue to the other.

            Whether you like it or not the bitter facts are:

            – To be able to enter or to get a residence permit to live in the USA is a privilege and not a right.

            – The American people should be allowed to decide who to allow in based on a set of criteria.

          • Amde

            Greetings Music Novice

            You said, “The problem with you, Amde, Abi and Yoty Topy is that you cannot think logically and face the facts. Furthermore, you are committing a Straw Man argument fallacy by jumping from one issue to the other.”

            Mr. Kettle, I believe you need to get a mirror and look within. This conversation started with you questioning whether Trump has tried to “baffle them with bulls#!t”. I gave you my reasons why. You did not refute, but came back with a generalization of about the “feelings of American people”. You are backing into simplistic assertions, calling them “bitter truth”.

            Just because you are throwing words like “logically” and “fallacy” does not mean you are showing a coherent argument. It sounds to me more like you are ending with spluttering incoherencies.

            Amde

          • Music Novice

            Greetings Amde,

            You seem to have difficulty in grasping what I am talking about. My observation is that you do not have the concentration or the patience to focus on an issue.

            – You did not fully quote Trump.

            – To be able to enter or to get a residence permit to live in the USA is a privilege and not a right.

            – The American people should be allowed to decide who to allow in, based on a set of criteria.

            – You, Amde, should concentrate on drafting a new immigration policy for Ethiopia.

          • Amde

            Greetings Music Novice,

            If you are so certain I misquoted him, I ask that you do so in the interest of expediency. Because, you know, you will keep saying I missed a comma or a preposition. Show me the relevant quote and we will talk about it.

            I explained to you my thoughts on immigration rights and privileges. You are seeing fire where there is no smoke.

            I am an American citizen now, and furthermore a critic of the Ethiopian ruling incumbent EPRDF. It is not my place to design Ethiopian immigration policy, nor am I going to allow you to pigeonhole me into what you think I should do or not. Your thoughts on that matter are completely irrelevant. By the same token, maybe you Music Novice should concentrate on Eritrean Immigration policy and leave American immigration issues to us, the citizens. I can guarantee your rights as an immigrant will be better protected than in the hands of a gaggle of Trumpets.

            Amde

          • Haile WM

            hi MN

            truth is absolute ? how come ? if truth is absolute then the one who knows it has absolute knowledge of it ?
            just wondering …

          • Music Novice

            Greetings Haile WM,

            What is true remains unalterable. It is our limited mind and its understanding of what is true that is relative.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Greeting MN,

            There is no absolute truth except death. If you are from science background, truth is relative.

          • Music Novice

            Greetings Amanuel H.,

            Truth is absolute. It is our understanding of what is true that is relative.

  • Nitricc

    Hi All; looking at this shocking pictures; one wonders where Ethiopia is going.
    https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xla1/v/t1.0-

    • Kim Hanna

      Selam Nitricc,
      .
      Just to let you know. There are countries and organizations who oppose us of using of our rivers. These enemies of our development will use any picture or any story to advance their evil campaign. Usually they throw these things on a slow news day.
      .
      The European and American pseudo intellectuals actually want to see the naked people left alone so that they can visit and take pictures. They think it is exciting to be one with nature, kind of like the nudist colony in California. Such a misery.
      You don’t have to help them distribute the propaganda.
      .
      Mr. K.H

      • Dear Mr. K.H.

        If the story and the pictures are true, it is a big shame for the Ethiopian government. Seeing the soldiers with guns in the background, unfortunately, it looks true. The pictures are reminiscent of the slave trade. Because these Ethiopians resisted eviction from their ancestral lands, this is not the way to treat them. Even criminals are treated with some human dignity. Every Ethiopian wants a better life, health service and education for the Ethiopians of the Omo valley, but not by dehumanizing them.

        • Mahmud Saleh

          Selam Hixon
          Thanks man. There is no question that the government is using heavy-handedness in quelling the situation. The evidences are ubiquitous to ignore. Responsible citizens should stand with the victims and call upon their government to solve the situation in a peaceful manner. It’s mind boggling to see a government that was propelled to power by the injustices perpetrated against its region has now resorted to, and exceeded in, executing the barbaric actions its predessor practiced. Worse, “justice”warriors of this forum try to downplay or ignore injustices played out in Ethiopia. Injustice is injustice where ever it may befall and to whomever it may be directed.

          • Amde

            Selam Mahmud,

            That was a despicable photo. What was worse the number of cell phone brandished about, as if this was a spectacle not to be missed.

            There are two things going on. Removing natives from their land, which is what this picture is supposedly about, is unfortunately a result of joining the international capitalist system. If these people don’t become low wage labor, the system does not give them any other place once their land is spoken for. It is not a TPLF or EPRDF issue perse. I imagine we would see or hear about these things if there was a different government in place.

            The other issue is specifically what is happening in Oromiya. For that, EPRDF/TPLF is reaping the fruits of the system it consciously put in place. In a nutshell, OPDO has been placed in an existential political quandary – whether to reflect the people’s voice, or become the administrative arm of EPRDF in Oromiya. Since no other political party has legal authority in Oromiya, the people do not believe OPDO represens them And in fact, as far as the people are concerned, OPDO is the front of a kleptomaniac machine within Oromiya. So without having legal recourses, things blow up. TPLF is working on “re-engineering” OPDO while using bullets to quell the street.

            Amde

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello Amde,

            They look uneducated, young, and very healthy for someone to subdue them easily. I don’t think they would simply lay low because someone in uniform shouted at them “behg amlak.” I don’t know whether it was tried or not, but they should have been handled by local elders regardless of the degree of their crime; if any. That photo is a perfect propaganda material, and it is being milked by ESAT and friends for all it is worth.

            Amde, Amde, Amde. Why do roses have to have thorns?
            “TPLF is working on “re-engineering” OPDO while using bullets to quell the street.”

            The officials that were removed from their posts were removed precisely for failing to handle the so called Oromo Unrest properly. They were removed and replaced by OPDO and not by the federal government which has no jurisdiction in OPDO’s internal matters. How in the world is that “re-engineering” by TPLF? What would a responsible government do under these circumstances? What steps would you have liked EPRDF take that can be considered solution based?

            The damage is done. Mostly innocent people died needlessly. For that, yes, ultimately we hold the government responsible. However, what it is doing to reprimand those responsible while taking steps to prevent similar mishaps in the future has to be recognized as such. Amde, once we see it as “re-engineering” we deny the government the benefit of a doubt, because whatever steps it takes we can always call it “re-engineering” without the obligation of having to provide any proof. I know I am biased, but I tried to examine this one as neutral as humanly possible and where I believe the government failed us is totally different from yours.

          • Amde

            Selam Fanti,

            Thank you for your post and it deserves a better response than I can give it now since I am at work. I will respond later tonight.

            Amde

          • Amde

            amde,
            test

          • Amde

            Selam Fanti,

            Looks like my response became Disqus fodder.

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Selam amde
            I understand your point. On the first part, I think regardless of which government is in place, the policies are either totally wrong or lack local inputs. It appears as a top down decrees which lack the much talked about 100% public support or the devolved power sharing we read about. In theory, the federal arrangement was designed to avoid this type of regional grievances. I agree with your take on the second part.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Amde; Re-enginering” ???
            At the risk of pretending to know which I don’t but let me say a few things what I think is happened and happening. The first question we must ask and find the answer for it is… when TPLF did went wrong and what was the reason for TPLF to resort in to venomous; poisonous ethnic divisions dangerous enough to put the well being of Ethiopia at risk.
            According to my digging and understandings of the situation (if I am way out; please correct me)
            TPLF went south after the 1995 election debacle. TPLF never sow it coming and never expected the Ethiopians to challenge TPLF that soon and with kind of magnitudes. The TPLF was caught their punts down. Faced with a lose of power; TPLF had no other choice but to wedge ethnical warfare and to sell the people of Tigray in exchange to prolong its stay in power. That is indeed what has happened. The people of Tigray were told the rest of the Ethiopians are coming after you; once we are not in power, you will be wiped out by the Amhara and Oromo. Pamphlets was distributed by TPLF stating that “Tigre wede Mekele Eqa wede Kebele” in the middle of Addis during the nights.
            The people of Tigray had no choice but to stick by TPLF out of pure fear and confusion. For the few TPLF thugs; it worked. It bought them time; worth of 10 years of time to loot and amass mind numbing wealth while the people of Tigray not only left to starve and suffer but it gets worst; on the eyes of the rest Ethiopians; The people of Tigray are the beneficiaries of the TPLF thugs. Receivers of more than their shares; is there more injustice than this?
            After 10 years of looting Ethiopian resources; this time around; TPLF seems to be satisfied with the wealth it has accumulated and the desire to hold power at all costs is less comparing to 1995; while the nervousness of the Average Tigryans are high and to a panic mode. Tigryans are wondering why TPLF is not taking decisive measures against the up-rising of the Oromos like it did back 1995 in Addis Abeba; slaughtering almost 300 people in broad day light. Little do they know the TPLF thugs have made their money and could carless from here out? There are plenty clues that Ethiopian government is head-less. You can see how they are handling things. Addis master plan; the plan is dead. There is a traffic law; the drivers oppose; it is postponed. The Sudanese government mumbles about the border; it is handled behind doors to appease the toothless Sudanese. A government who is in a firm control can not act as such of the Ethiopian government. It is clearly concerning. However; in the head-less government no one is giving the order to maintain order. So, Amde; I don’t see any engineering at all; all I see is one Incompetent government with big, huge and humongous organized confusion.

      • Nitricc

        HI KH; the problem is not the propaganda part but the social sins that is being committed.
        “The Seven Social Sins are”
        Wealth without work!
        Pleasure without conscience!
        Knowledge without character!
        Commerce without morality!
        Science without humanity!
        Worship without sacrifice!
        Politics without principle!
        From a sermon given by Frederick Lewis Donaldson in Westminster Abbey, London, on March 20, 1925.”!

        • Amde

          Nitricc,

          I really like this quote.

          Amde

        • Kim Hanna

          Selam Nitricc,
          .
          Did you learn all this in your recent sabbatical? I prefer my toothless Nitricc, whose bite never hurt.
          .
          Your above quote might be a great spiritual guidance for Londoners at Westminster Abbey in 1925.
          In 2016 Ethiopia, the struggle is to meet the very basic needs of survival.
          .
          As I mentioned earlier, there are foreigners who have their own plans for us. There are many, too many to count diaspora Ethiopians who are retired and have taken up full time job of making up or exaggerating such stories. And then…And then, eh… we have neighbors like “peace” and “Mahmud Saleh” who have yet to bury their own come out wailing for us, with a smile in their hearts. ( Nitricc,I know for sure you don’t belong in that club)
          .
          The picture you posted might be exactly as you said and the way it was described. I don’t know. You don’t know. I am just letting you know the multiple other possibilities, judging from the recent past experiences.
          .
          Mr. K.H

    • ‘Gheteb

      Hi Nitricc,

      Here is something that adds to the picture you have posted. I guess Amde, Case Study (CS) , is not going to like it at all. The pictures doesn’t comport with the delusional imageries he has in his mind about Ethiopia.

      It doesn’t jive also with his anti-Eritrean views. Eritrea that Amde thinks of as a product of fascistic thoughts, its people with DEFORMED IDENTITY and now a country that is depopulated.

      This image runs counter to the cherished images bordering to a phantasm that are deeply lodged in the deep recesses of Amde’s and Co. Abyssinian psyches.

      It is expected that this ‘reality’ about Emama Ethiopia’s ( The Earthly Eden Of The Horn Region) is going to elicit a SEVERE reaction of aggressive mania by CS.

      ደቡብ ኢትዮጵያ አዲሷ ዳርፉር

      March 6, 2016

      የኢትዮጵያ የደቡብ ክልል አይን ያወጣ ግፍ የሚፈጸምበት አዲሱ ዳርፉር እየሆነ ነው፡፡በተለይ ከወላይታ ጀምሮ እስከ ሱዳን ክልል ያለው ቦታ በየዕለቱ ለጆሮ የሚሰቀጥጡ ሰብዓዊነት ላይ የሚፈጸሙ ወንጀሎች እጅና እግር አውጥተው የሚታዩበት ቦታ ሆኗል፡፡ ይህ ምስልም ከክልሉ የተገኘ መሆኑን የክልሉን ፖሊሶችና ደቡብ ፖሊስ የሚል ጽሁፍ ያረፈባትን መኪና በማየት መረዳት ይቻላል፡፡ የሱርማ ተወላጆች መሬታችንን በኃይል አንለቅም በማለታቸው የፊጥኝ እየታሰሩ በደም እንደተለወሱ በገዛ ወገኖቻቸው ተወስደዋል፡፡

      ምንም እንኳን የብሄራችን ተወላጆች ባይሆኑም ኢትዮጵያዊያን ከሁሉም በላይ ደግሞ ሰዎች በመሆናቸው ያሉበትን ስቃይ እንረዳላቸው፡፡ በደቡብ የቁጫ ተወላጆችም በደቡብ ህብረት ቀጭን ትዕዛዝ የማንነት ጥያቄ ባነሱ የአካባቢው ሽማግሌዎች፣ሴቶች፣ህጻናትና ወጣቶች ላይ የግፍ መዓት ወርዷል፡፡የፌደራል መንግስቱም ዳንኤል ሺበሺን ያለ በደሉ ወህኒ በማውረድ የቁጫዎች ጩሕት በዳንኤል በኩል እንዳይሰማ አድርጓል፡፡

      ኢትዮጵያዊ መሆን እልፍ ሲልም ሰው መሆን ወንጀልን ለመቃወም በቂ ነው፡፡ፈረንጆቹስ no one is free when others are oppressed ይሉ የለምን?

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  • Abi

    Hope nebsi
    Is this your ” final answer ” or are you coming back with corrections?

  • Mahmud Saleh

    Selam Abraham
    እንታይ ጌርናኩም ኣንታ ኣብራሃም? ከምዚታት መዘኻኸሪ ተምጽኡልና ተመሊስኩም ድማ ghedli romantics ትብሉና ha…ha. One of the best songs and popularized every March, I believe it was composed around 1983, at least that when I first heard it. Of course later, in early 1984, I was able to see it delivered. Tanki did a good job with her unique voice, Senait Dabasai was on base guitar, Aklilu, on Saxophone, Dawit on keyboard, Aron on lead guitar, I believe, China was on kirar. This one must have been recorded in Arag where the Central Music Group had a makeshift studio, and it was most probably recorded by engineer Yosief. This guy is legendary in EPLF’s recording “industry.” His hands are all over EPLF audio records. A very friendly guy who worked around the clock to keep the radio station running; in addition to other assignments of audio recordings and mixing audiovisuals. Just a snapshot of history.

    • Abraham Hanibal

      Dear Mahmuday,
      I think the great majority of Eritreans are proud of their Ghedli as they have directly or indirectly participated for its success in bringing independent Eritrea. Our Ghedli provided us with an independent, free, and united Eritrea through the participation of Eritreans from all walks of life. However, as you are well aware of, it has been long overdue to build on the positive aspects of our revolution in terms of building a just and participatory governance in our country.
      I think also most people’s frustration arises from the fact that they see the current enforcers of the dictatorship as a product of our Ghedli. I would rather say these people are the by-products of our, otherwise, golden Ghedli experience, of course, with all its hiccups.
      As always, thank you for your insight into the historical setting of the song by Tegadalit Brkti weldeslassie/Tanki.

  • ‘Gheteb

    Selam Ayneta,

    Firstly, congratulations is in order for heeding Music Novice’s advice and observation about you. In case you are wondering, here it is:

    ” You wanted to reply to Gheteb, but you did not click reply to his post, instead you chose to post separately in order to stand out “.

    I think you took his advice to heart and you have rectified that bad tendency and here you are acting appropriately without even acknowledging your foible. Here you are being clever and half. Well, I am not surprised at all.

    Secondly, I still think that you are a rebarbative character with just a scintilla of levity. I didn’t say with ONE scintilla as I don’t hail from Planeta Abyssinicus. If you haven’t noticed, adherents of the superannuated political outlook, Abyssinian Fundamentalism, beside this unquenchable hankering for living and re-living in the tales, folklores and legends from the book that historians consider as a “gargantuan hoax”, Viz., Kibra Negest, they are also utterly nescient of Science. How else can one say ” ONE scintilla” as if ‘sparks’. ‘traces’ and ‘hints’ are countable. Such is the pathetic state that the imbecile Made wallows in.

    What is more, is the utter obtuseness of the believers of Abyssinian fundamentalism when it comes to the concept of “Central Dogma Eritreanism” and erroneously associate it with fascism. These nincompoops are unlettered in the central dogma of biology or the central dogma of molecular biology. Here is the meaning for those who want to see where the idea of “central dogma” emanates from.

    ” The central dogma of molecular biology explains that DNA codes for RNA, which codes for proteins. DNA is the molecule of heredity that passes from parents to offspring. It contains the instructions for building RNA and proteins, which make up the structure of the body and carry out most of its functions”.

    What I posited as the Central Dogma of Eritreanism is based on this principle and those like ኣባ ጓይላ ክትዕ, Amanuel Hidrat, who think that the ELF was NOT the warp and woof the EPLF, need to seriously bone up in the history of the Eritrean Revolution. I mean all the three factions that constituted the EPLF came from the ELF and not out of thin air or some supernal place. But, I know that I should be surprised by the likes of ኣባ ጓይላ ክትዕ, Amanuel Hidrat, as he is on record for saying the goal of the Eritrean Ghedli was to liberate the land.

    Again, just to reiterate what I said about the Falul’s role in the defeat of the ELF was:

    (A) ” Among the many factors that brought the demise of ELF, non figures more prominently than what is commonly referred as The Falul Movement (The Anarchists Movement)”.

    (B) ” I contend that this very Falul Movement is one of the major factors that has hastened, expedited, precipitated and catalyzed the quietus and the break down of the ELF”.

    Thirdly, Mr. Ayneta, you are saying, “This is your personal opinion and it doesn’t represent the reality in its entirety “. Now, if you know what the “reality in its entirety” was, how come you didn’t even show a dab of it in your comment?

    Fourthly, your main task here is to refute my assertions and not just peel off on a tangent and resort to what amounts to an ad hominem attack. Though you are insufferably a rebarbative character, don’t add to that by acting like that dunce progeny of the fascistic Dergue who thinks of himself as a progressive while he is helplessly wallowing in the phony tales of antiquity that has zero historical validity.

    • Amde

      Gheteb,

      I upvoted you because you mentioned my name. Not once. Not twice.. but three times..

      Is it like saying One scintilla, Two scintilla Three scintilla.. Are you ok? Hulu selam?

      I really didn’t deserve such honor… Tut.. tut… Is the severity index of your ignoring machine slipping? Hummmm?

      Amde

      • Lamek

        Dear Amde, if you get thrown into the stinking overflowing SEVERELY ignored bin, you will have no one to blame but yourself. It’s not fun being in this filthy bin. Be careful what you wish for.

        • Amde

          Selam Lamek,

          What can I say, but that I am a masochist? I try and try to be SEVERELY ignored, but he keeps mentioning me in every other post? Sigh…..

          Amde

        • ‘Gheteb

          Lamek,

          Are you wondering if your pal Amde is on the SEVERELY ignored list. Yes, he has been on that list for over a year now. He has tried everything to get out of the list, but he is and he will remain in that list. Now you can see that he ended up responding to Ayneta by clicking a reply to ‘Gheteb. Just scroll down to see what I am talking about.

          I am telling you that the severity of being SEVERELY ignored has taken its toll on your pal and the utter foolishness and insanity of your pal Amde is just too manifest!

          • Amde

            ‘Gheteb,

            Ah!! You are making progress.

            Firstly, you still have a major problem. You used to mention me as an out-of-context addition in your diatribes, but now you have resorted to making posts completely about me. That shows your condition has worsened. Try to ignore me gently, if the SEVERELY is too taxing.

            In addition, you stopped correcting the misspelling of my name. That just shows you are getting emotional. When I write your name I try to write it correctly, even adding the leading apostrophe. Don’t get emotional.

            On the bright side, your English has become more legible. I say “on the bright side”, because I am an optimistic person by nature. Because truthfully, it could just mean that you are getting too mad to pull out a thesaurus. Please refer to the paragraph above.

            Finally, please.. I know it is hard. But try not to be an overachiever. You said you will ignore me. Which is fine. But then you had to add SEVERELY. Listen, in my village we have a saying, “An egg slowly starts walking.” The origin is Amharic, but I don’t want to stress you. In any case, before you jump on SEVERELY, you might want to try a few stages first. “TENTATIVELY”, “GINGERLY”, “GENTLY”, “COMFORTABLY”, “CONFIDENTLY” etc… The sky is the limit. Heck, I would even go so far as inventing your own eponymous pace such “GHETEBLY”

            I know it is hard, but try not to mention me for at least 24 hrs.

            Amde

          • Amde

            ‘Gheteb,

            Oh my god that was funny!! You actually went back and corrected the spelling of my name. Hahahah….

            Much obliged, sir.. much obliged….

            Amde

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam lamek,

          Ramney in the 2012 election cycle had said “I am severely conservstive” in order to appeal his conservatism to the Repulican conservatives. By the same talken Our Gheteb is telling us that he is a “severely Eritrean intellectual” that no one is in his league from the pool of Eritrran intellectuals. Eritrea has to be proud of this “unique son” ever seen in all genetations. And hopefully to excel in the next international contest. አይመስለካን?

          regards
          Amanuel Hidrat

  • dawit

    Dear,SAAY, A-mde and all Awatistas interested in “Dawitism”

    As many of Awatistas know it Pastor Dawit was delivering Sunday Sermons, but was discontinued. Today Sunday March 6, 2016 I decided to give my last Sermon here at the Holly Church of St. Awate.com on the Subject of “Dawitism”. Before we go to the main subject of question and answers session, I will like to post two Parables from the Christian text book, The Bible. I apologize the reading material only came from one religion point of Christianity, but I am sure similar lessons would be found in the various great religions of the world, Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, Confucianism, Taoism and Buddhism. The lessons for today is taken from one of the world famous Tegadaly Jessus Christ who lived in this world about 2000+ years.

    Lesson 1

    There came a man of the Pharisees whose name was Nicodemus, a member of the council. (The
    Pharisees were the Elitists at various times a political party, a social movement, and a school of thought in the Holy Land during the Jesu time). He came to Jesus at night and said to him, “Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could do the miraculous signs that you do unless God were with him.”
    Jesus replied, “I tell you the solemn truth, unless a person is born from above, he cannot see the kingdom of God.” Nicodemus said to him, “How can a man be born when he is old? He cannot enter his mother’s womb and be born a second time, can he?”

    Jesus answered, “I tell you the solemn truth, unless a person is born of water and spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. What is born of the flesh is flesh, and what is born of the Spirit is spirit. Do not be amazed that I said to you, ‘You must be born from above.’ The wind blows wherever it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but do not know where it comes from and where it is going. So it is with everyone who is born of the Spirit.”

    Nicodemus replied, “How can these things be?” Jesus answered, “Are you the teacher of Israel and yet you don’t understand these things? I tell you the solemn truth, I speak about what I know and testify about what I have seen, but you people do not accept my testimony. If I have told you people about earthly things and you don’t believe, how will you believe if I tell you about heavenly things?

    Lesson 2.

    A rich young man asks Jesus what actions bring eternal life. First Jesus advises the man to obey the commandments. You know the commandments, do not commit adultery, do not kill, do not steal, do not bear false witness, defraud, honor your father and mother. All these I have observed from my youth and asks what else he can do, Jesus adds: If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions
    and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.

    When he heard this, he became very sad, because he was a man of great wealth. Jesus looked at him and said, “How hard it is for the rich to enter the Kingdom of God. Indeed, it is easier for a camel to go
    through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.”

    Now the Sermon is over we will switch from Pastor Dawit to Professor Dawit lectures at the world class university of Awate.com University Room 101 on the subject of “Dawitism” { ዝሓረመ ማይና፡ዝበረቀ ጸሓይና ዝነገሰ ንጉስና }

    First we go to Question answer session, Dawit will answer question raised by the Honorable
    Sir AMDE a member of the Ethiopian Pharisees.

    “Do you know the phrase “point of view”? Well at first I didn’t know, but now thanks for you I know that they are three words, eleven letters, five vowels and six consonants. You wrote “From Menelik’s “point of view”, he considered the Askaris as traitors to him, and he treated them as he deemed appropriate for traitors”. Well Sir no matter how you tried to twist or confuse the issue the Eritrean Askaris were prisoners of war, no matter how you or the Baboon king thought of them. Case closed.

    “Your point that Menelik punished the Askaris to serve Italian desires makes me question what you are smoking. Are you for real?” I still stand by my statement that Menelik was servant to Italian colonialists. What am I smoking? I don’t know how to answer this question but I will try as true as possible God help me so. I don’t know why people ask such awkward questions? You know what, once a great
    learned man a graduate of Yale School of law was asked if he smoked when he was nominated to serve as a judge at the highest court of the country the U.S. Supreme Court. He answered yes he smoked it when he was a youth. The Congress approved him to be the Supreme Court Judge, maybe he was honest. Then following that another Yale and Oxford Law School graduate was asked if he smoked it. The man answered that he also smoked it when he was youth, but he didn’t inhaled it. Then the people of the United States elected him twice to be their President. I think it is good to be honest. Dawit was also once a youth and growing up experimented with various staffs. Dawit smoked and inhale እጸ ፋሪስ that he got from the famous Monastry of Debre Libanos in Ethiopia. Now that staff was ‘Organic’ natural no chemical was used to grow it, not like the staff they grow in Shashemene. There you have sir my journey to the Twilight
    Zone.

    On your last question “what was the policy of EPLF or ELF to those is considered traitors.” Frankly I
    have no I idea, I was not in the Great Ghedli experience but I believe at AT university members, like Amanuel H. Mahmud, SJ, Tsigereda. KS or any others could help you. I will pass the question to them.

    I think that exhaust your questions for today. The staff about King Lalibela and Queen Yodit, I guess we have covered it extensively in the past three days. Our next set of questions about “Dawitism” comes from the Honorable Cousin SAAY the elite member of the Eritrean Pharisees.

    A-Look Cousin why do you put me in such difficult position asking me to grade your paper on “Dawitism”. I thought you coined that word. Did you come up with that word without knowing it well? I don’t believe it. You know Cus the only thing I hate about being a professor is grading. I wish there was some method that I don’t have to give grades to my students. Now Cus, you are wasting your time on understanding ‘Dawitism’ just like you wasted on your Ethiopian history compulsory subject. You are aiming to get only a passing grade, while you could have got an A. I think that bad study habit is still with you. On Dawitism you are trying to find some fault or crack and use that to ridicule ‘Dawitism’ instead of using your time to understand it and trying to come with some positive input to improve it.

    On number one your analysis and conclusion is totally wrong. You get one point out of ten. The only point right your probability calculation. Dawitism want to change that statistics the other way round, from 2% success to 98%. Dawitism want the region to come out of the monkey business of baboons playing their games of climbing, bouncing, swinging, sliding on the peoples shoulder and going bananas with poor people’s lives! For this to happen the region need peace and stability. Dawitism opposes any one that
    Pushes the region into chaos.

    One Number two, you are right, you get a full score of 10 out of ten. Good job.

    One number three you have completely misunderstood the question. It is always good to read the question before you jump to answer. You wrote on your answer “There was no example presented of kings who, like locusts, blocked the sun and conducted rain dances to demand that God deny rain to the people.”. There are plenty of examples especially in our region. Look Cus, God provide us Rain and Sunshine to grow food and Energy. We have some knowledge of when the rainy season starts and end. Now Guad Mengistu decided the next military campaign and rounded all able young people in the country and send them to military camp to train for war, the land they left behind is not going to plow itself and seed the ground. When the rain arrives as scheduled by nature, the rain water will escape as runoff, joining the streams, before it join the Nile or other big rivers straight to the Mediterranean or the Indian Ocean. The free rain provide by God is wasted if it doesn’t help grow food crop, and if there is no plant on the growing on the ground the free energy is wasted to do its photosynthesis business of fixing the energy from the sun. Then what is the end result of the interfering of the sun and rain by the baboons, wide spread famine in the country where children and the old die because of starvation. Then the baboons allow foreign journalists to film the disaster to beg food donations from the rest of the world by putting headline “Worst Drought, in 10, 15, 20, 30 or 50 yrs! Actors and Musicians line up to save the children of “drought victims” in truth they are victims of the baboons!. For this question you receive 4 out of ten for
    effort. Your overall points will be 15 out of 30 the letter Grade is C-.

    Questions for all AT members:
    Should Eritreans Celebrate the Aduwa Victory and its Hero Menelik II? Why is the many Ethiopians her at AT in this forum not defending Mama Ethiopia as usual? Often when dawit writes something that in bad light, several will lineup to condemn dawit?. Do both Eritrean and Ethiopian have anything positive to improve “Dawitism”?

    Dawitism believes our region needs peace and stability and” { ዝሓረመ ማይና፡ዝበረቀ ጸሓይና ዝነገሰ ንጉስና } is
    the best least costly approach to peace and stability for the region. The problem of poor people whether they live in Dangla or Keren Hashela is the same. Finally a great question posed by our own Rational Thinker Music Novies asked to one of the senior professor at AT, but I think each and every one should think about.

    What have you done between 1991 and now to help ordinary folk in Eritrea or Ethiopia? Were you helpful or an obstacle in the last 25 years?

    Regards

    Dawit

    • Amde

      dawit,

      I score you A for entertainment value.

      I don’t think you have adequately squared the circle of “znegese ngusna” vs “baboon theory”. I am more confused what dawitism is now than before. But, I am not troubled.. let the honorable Saay7 try his hand at deciphering what you wrote.

      Amde

      • dawit

        AMDE
        Thank you for the grade for entertainment that was very generous. You know few years ago, you wrote to me that I could think a career as political safaris. I forgot the term you used. On understanding “Dawitism” I think you were sleeping on the sermon delivered by Pastor Dawit. I don’t blame, I used to sleep in church in my youth especially when the sermon is long and boring. To fully understand “Dawitism” as Tegadalay Jesus put it one has to be ‘born again’. Try that it may help. One has to be free from bias to appreciate and accept “Dawitism”.
        dawit

    • saay7

      Selamat Cousin Dawit:

      Beautiful. Now that was the answer I was looking for from Professor Dawit explaining Dawitism.

      You know if there is a student who sits in the front row of the class asking the same question “Teacher! Teacher!” the rest of the class get annoyed with him. So I will ask the other students attending Dawitism 101 to explain our differences between my calculation that shows a 98% failure rate, and your testimony where, um, you don’t deny the calculation but still express your wish for a 98% success rate WHILE changing nothing in the formula: znegese ngusna.

      On # 2, thank you, it makes perfect sense. But you know Cousin Dawit, there was one king whose name is (let me refer to my notes, ግንጽል ግንጽል…) oh yes President Isaias Afwerki Abraham I who told us a couple of years ago that when choosing whether to enlist farmers in a people’s militia or have them harvest their fieldsfirst, it is better that they go carry their guns and protect government property and let the harvest go to waste. He let it go to waste and then said chigir yelen and what’s odd is that there was no hightened national security threat. He just felt like it. Now, using Dawitism, shouldn’t I push him towards the “baboons”? 🙂

      I don’t celebrate Battle of Adwa because I have too much respect for Ethiopians. Battle of Adwa is noteworthy ONLY if one acknowledges the superiority of the white race otherwise, militarily, there is nothing remotely noteworthy about 118,000 Ethiopians, armed with modern weapons, with full knowledge of the battlefield, defend it against 20,000 invaders made up of Italians and CONSCRIPTED Eritreans. the Vietnamese Tet Offensive But I don’t go out of my way to ridicule it either because I am a sensitive person: it is celebrated same way the Jesse Owens victory in Nazi Germany is or the Tet Offensive is to the Vietnamese.

      saay

  • AMAN

    Dear Awates
    Peace !
    I didn’t know the whole thing !
    May be you are right and I may be wrong
    I thought I was helping though not always
    but if that is not helping I can take it off.
    Seriously though I thought that way is the
    way ( I mean my way was right ).
    Now that I understand my mistake I made
    to your web forum, how about me taking the
    initiative and come half way and apologize
    to you sincerily. And declare I am responsible
    to what I done and said on your forum.
    I didn’t understood your situation for a long
    time, It is only recently I really came to know
    and understand the real situation. Even now
    there is much that I do not know than I know
    clearly.
    So my appologies to each and everyone I
    opposed and antagonized and to your site.
    ALL I though I don’t want to be is a ‘less’ Eritrean’
    than others and that was the cause for my drive
    ALL MY FAULT !
    SORRY
    Fully responsible for my actions and sayings.
    AND
    I MEAN IT ! Bye for Now.

  • Mahmud Saleh

    Hello Music Lovers

    Recently, Awatistas have been sidestepping the tradition of weekends. Here is the legendary Carlos Santana with his famous “Samba Pa Ti” song. Enjoy.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Up8dFnp04c

    • Lamek

      *ኣፍቀርቲ ሙዚቃ for Music lovers.

      DD is abandoning his job. Not sure how long I can fill in for him (or is it feel in, courtesy of Nitricc?).

      • Mahmud Saleh

        Hey Lamek

        DD is more into classic Music, way beyond the reach of our ears ( at least beyond the reach of my taste). Well, we need something that helps us feel warm. Here is Hussien Mohamed Ali introduced by Araya Balay. The music is scratchy, it is a live performance. But the vocal quality of Hussien is noticeable and as clear as ever. The “old” men and women will fid it reminiscing.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbkA26YmmMg

  • ‘Gheteb

    Of ፋሉልs (Anarchists), ድጓል ፋሉልs (Crypto-Anarchists) And ሕንፍሽፍሽ (Chaos)

    Selam All,

    In one of my previous posts I have posited that the Central Dogma of Eritreanism can be simply encapsulated as:

    ELF ——–> EPLF ———> EDF

    ELF, Jebha, which is also fondly referred as Jebha Abay (ጀብሃ ዓባይ), was driven out of the Eritrean field in 1981. Among the many factors that brought the demise of ELF, non figures more prominently than what is commonly referred as The Falul Movement (The Anarchists Movement).

    Without going into further details, in the final analysis the problems with the ELF Faluls was that of insubordination, not abiding by the military rules or regulations of the ELF and not being governed by what is known as ‘Democratic Centralism’.

    I am not going to belabor the idea whether the Falul Movement had a legitimate complaint or gripe aginst the ELF leadership or not. My focus is primarily on the effects and consequence of the movement on the fate of ELF. I contend that this very Falul Movement is one of the major factors that has hastened, expedited, precipitated and catalyzed the quietus and the break down of the ELF.

    I maintain that because of this movement most of these ELF fighters deserted Jebha, some ending up surrendering to the EPLF, others to Ethiopia, some made to the Sudan and still others ended up in God knows where, and definitely some were killed in the intra-ELF military clashes.

    Those ELF members who were not overtly supporters of the Falul Movement and who stayed enlisted with the ELF after the ELF chased away the Faluls, were still sympathetic to the Movement and hence why they were monickered as ድጓል ፋሉልs (Crypto-Anarchists). With the defeat of the ELF, the Faluls and the crypto- Faluls found themselves in the Sudan. Some of these fighters left for other countries; some went back and joined the EPLF ranks; still others found the listening ears of the TPLF and started to work and ally themselves with the TPLF.

    Mind you this ‘fraternization’ with the Weyanes started the early 80s and not in the late 90s like those of the ‘bien pensant’ ELF members. From those years, these Fallulites mightily opposed and fought the EPLF. And, post Eritrea’s independence, they have been at the spearhead fighting tooth and nail against anything and everything that is even remotely perceived as serving the interest of Eritrea.

    Speaking of the Weyanes, their TPLF has weathered something analogous to the ELF’s Falul Movement. Strangely and mind-bogglingly, the TPLF in their Woyane parlance dubbed the movement as ሕንፍሽፍሽ (Chaos) which they dealt with harshly and swiftly. What is astoundingly amazing is that while the Woyanes liquidated the members of their Falul movement ( their ሕንፍሽፍሽ [Chaos], really), they found a reliable ally on the ELF’s Falul movement members to carry water for them in their “Eritrean Agenda”.

    These Eritrean Falulites have been faithfully and reliably carrying out the biddings of the Weyanes since the early 80s. I firmly believe and aver that as the Falul movement ushered the demise of Jebha, the latter day Falulites are working mightily in the unavailing and banal campaign of undoing ‘the Eritrean Consensus’.

    Non typifies, exemplifies, personifies and epitomizes the latter day Falulite as ኣባ ጓይላ ክትዕ, Amanuel Hidrat. Actually, he is the very exemplar of the latter day Eritrean Falulite.

    • Dis Donc

      Dear Gheteb,

      Let’s assume for a moment that your theory holds water. But were you there with Falulites to ascertain these facts? Any reference that you can bring? Anyone can throw around wild allegations, you know. Plus where do all these Falul theories fit into the need for democracy and pluralism? If you say they do fit-in then just get to it.

      • Amde

        Dis Donc,

        You said, “Plus where do all these Falul theories fit into the need for democracy and pluralism?”.

        That is precisely why he is a simple reactionary. He is infatuated with the EPLF when it was in the Mieda, and posting drivel that has absolutely no relevance to the here and now is his way of getting the vicarious thrill he thinks he missed by not having been there.

        Even his formula ELF -> EPLF -> EDF is just a simpleton’s fascistic formulation.

        Amde.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Dear Amde,tes & DD,

          Look to this statement which shows nothing but an empty talk :

          “I am not going to belabor the idea whether the Falul Movement had a legitimate complaint or gripe against the ELF leadership or not.” In other words he is saying whether their complaint is legitimate or not ELF was defeated and disintegrated by Falul not by the alliance of EPLF/TPLF in 1981. Of course we can’t wait “logical explanation” from an empty bravado who hasn’t the basic education of Eritrean revolution.

          Second, look at his “formula” or “equation of transformation” also:

          ” ELF -> EPLF -> EDF”

          1 -ELF was transformed to EPLF, then EPLF is transformed to EDF.
          2- History show that the three splinters (ELF-PF, Obelin, Selfi-Nasenet) separated from ELF in 1970.
          3- The three splinters formed united front in 1973 to defend the onslaught perpetuated from ELF.
          4 – The united front splited into EPLF and ELF-PF(hizbawi Hailitat) in 1977.

          according his illogical explanation:
          5 – After 1970, leaving the historical evolvement of ghedli aside , ELF was non-existent, because it is transformed to EPLF.
          6 – But history shows that ELF has liberated the following towns Mendefera, AdiQuala, Aqordet, Tesenei, omhager, Goluge, Haikota. Gogne and others in 1977 until they are retaken by the Ethiopian army in 1978.
          7 -History shows that ELF was ejected from the field by the joint forces of EPLF/TPLF in 1981.

          Now can anybody make any sense from his “transformational equation”? The more he writes the more he is indulged to self-exposition. Who does that except……? fill as you wish.

          regards,
          Amanuel Hidrat

          • Music Novice

            Greetings Amanuel H.,

            Let us not daydream with the nostalgia of the past. Let us accept that the EPLF made the history of the here and now. Let us try to improve what we have and make the best out of it.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            MN,

            Why do not tell that to your pal. There is nothing that you will have nostalgia from ghedli as the name signifies ” gedel “. For you and your mentor who hadn’t a taste of it, is a joke and fun for you. Look to your mentor how he demeanedto the heroic ELA history. Don ‘ t be stupid hypocrite.

          • Music Novice

            Greetings Amanuel H.,

            I am only trying to wake you up from sleep. If you think you are awake but not in dream within a dream, then it is your choice.

      • tes

        Dear Dis Donc,

        Amde addressed a right point by quoting you. Are you looking something related to democratization process from Gheteb?

        How innocent* are you Sir/Monsieur?

        tes

        * strictly Political innocence not related to your personality

  • Music Novice

    Greetings Dis Donc,

    You are a simpleton, shallow and a waste of time. But, do not worry, you are not alone. Look around you; you have got a lot of company.

    • Dis Donc

      Dear Muzika,

      Well what else can I say. I wait for you whenever you want to debate. Till then I will keep my shallowness and simpleton to myself. Remember though, I am here whenever you feel like debating.

  • tes

    Hope Geragru,

    Can’t you leave me alone or fight me face to face? You know how I can bounce you out from my way if you happened to land on my atmosphere.

    tes

  • Mahmud Saleh

    Wo Hope, wed Keren TsaEda

    Here is the little deal, and let’s confine this to our Berhe Y; and let me just take his last reply to me (above) to show you how screwed up this guy has turned out to be when it comes to reading my earthshaking, nerve-rattling, and tail-wagging comments (EHmmmmmmm).

    a. BY says to me, “I suppose you believe Eritrean and PFDJ are one and the same and what ever belongs to Eritrean belongs to PFDJ.”

    I say, well, we “suppose” but that doesn’t mean our supposition is proven. So, the question is: do you want it left on the vacillating state or you will have the GUT and COURAGE (courtesy to cousin HOPE) that you will state it one way or the other. Two help you, here are three best ways of answering it

    1. “I still suppose MS is….” (original one), then you will have previous evidences that make you believe MS should be the way you suspect him to be. Bring those old evidences, or;
    2. “I’m sorry, I should not make suppositions based on subjective feelings, I’m willing to send a gallon of camel milk to brother MS.” That’s the right way provided you have got the GUT and COURAGE and a residue of decency.
    3. Based on facts at hand, I’m confident MS is the way I described him, I was wrong to suppose, hence, it should read, “[y]ou believe Eritrean and PFDJ are one and the same and what ever belongs to Eritrean belongs to PFDJ.”
    b.BY says, “Now I really wonder, how you even found that out. Did you made a call and ask your PFDJ security operatives in France and in Eritrean to send you his dossier. I don’t know the facts, you probably do since you have inside sources”
    Well, BerheY could be a critical reader on other matters, but not on my comments. I see him botching my comments. Here, he is defending a man who does not need his support, and worse, he did not even read what tes wrote through the years in this forum, because I used what tes provided to this forum, of his own volition.
    c. BY says, “The more I read about you the more that I suspect you are a mole in this website, appearing to be someone who oppose the PFDJ…”

    The paranoia of Berhe is a matter of concern. Honestly, Semere Andom (the skilled shrink), needs to spare a couple of days to help out brother Berhe. I’m willing to mail out to you guys some Kerbe and abaKe Etan (incense). SAAY will volunteer for conducing the Dervish swirling dance, Nitrickay, just back from Sawa, will present Tigrayt sword dance, SGJ will perform some of Kerens Ad sidi’s rituals. The session will be led by Hope. I mean we need to help out the guy. Nothing is too little. ሁሉም ኣቶ በርሀ ለማዳን!!

    d. BY says, ” you are to clout the judgment, intimidate and fiercely defend the legacy of EPLF / PFDJ and hide the crimes they committed against our people”
    I mean the guys has become a wreck. Honestly. He needs help. I’m not going to burden him with presenting evidences; I will just pray to God Almighty to show the path to patience, and wisdom. But one can’t leave this thread without saying የቕልሎ።

  • Music Novice

    Ayneta,

    Let us stick to the subject of what I wrote about you. What do you think of my description of yourself? Is it accurate?

    Otherwise, I will treat you as I do Dis Donc. You are not only a self-obsessed character constantly seeking the limelight but also half-baked.

  • AMAN

    Greetings

    Dear Awates,
    There is a saying in Northern Ethiopia and parts of Eritrea
    that goes like

    ” ZiAkhlen TiHineens_____Baale Mariam…….”

    Now who was the one who made and heaped the talk and
    now asking for everyone to stop………..Is that fair to say.
    By the way I asked AT last time if I can get a new Nick or
    if I am eligible to.

    that I didn’t get an answer yet.

    It is a simple answer

    YES or NO !
    It also depends on it that whether / if to go to new horizons and

    shining like the stars in the sky if the answer is YES to a new NICK or
    to keep the old Nick and argument to deal with the Ziakhlen Tihineen
    Baala Mariam ziblu/a group to its final destination.
    Like I said , It all depends on you , I have no problem with either of
    your choice. I always respect democratic right and choice of everyone.

    • Fanti Ghana

      Hello AMAN,
      I stand behind you in support of your request to change your nick name. Others have been doing it without asking for permission, and you, being a gentleman, are asking politely, and I don’t see why you shouldn’t be granted your wish.
      Good Luck!

    • Kim Hanna

      Selam AMAN,
      .
      NO!, you may not change your nick, don’t even think about, horizon, selam, Getab or any similar nick. I and we are used to AMAN byline. Why are you trying to create confusion and chaos. That is my vote.
      .
      Mr. K.H

      • Fanti Ghana

        Hello Most Honorable Mr. KH,
        I am Raya. We have a tradition of warning our enemies before we attack, and I don’t want to be the first to break that tradition. Therefore, my brother, get your spear (make sure that it is sharpened) and check your shield for soft spots because I am prepared to fight you to the last of my breath or until AMAN gets his new nick. You have been warned (ayam bel).

        • saay7

          His Fantiness:

          That’s funny! I don’t know if you remember this conversation: we were discussing the first Weyane uprising (Weyane I) and the big role of the people of Raya and you told me: We Rayans will look for any reason for an uprising:) So that’s what you are doing here by sharpening your spear over whether a person has a right to change his pen name.

          Speaking of Raya, and how you guys are always in an uprising mood: does that extend to Azebo? And, if so, will they have an uprising for Top Billing so that it is Azebo-Raya and not Raya-Azebo?

          saay

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello Brother Saay,

            Oh yes. Some people do sneak-in ‘Azebo-Raya’ once in a while, but I never thought about the now obvious hidden agenda you just made me aware of. And every time I hear it, it is from someone from north of Maichew. The sneaky bas…

            Would you please save two lives tonight by allowing AMAN to change his nick? Not that I am afraid mind you.

          • saay7

            Salamat His Fantiness:

            One of perks of retirement from Awate.com management is that I don’t have a say on weighty matters such as “should AMAN be allowed to change his name via Disqus which awate.com doesn’t control? Do the posting guidelines say anything other ‘don’t have multiple IDs simultaneously’?”

            So, you are on your own. By the way, what is the proper Raya protocol on initiating duels, like the kind you have with Mr. K.H.? I know in the West it involved smacking someone with a glove (at least that’s what Homer Simpson taught us) and, once initiated, you can never back away from it (at least that’s It’s Always Sunny In Philadelphia taught us.

            saay

          • Fanti Ghana

            Brother Saay,
            This was what that was: “ኣያም በል” (pay attention) as is true in the southern half and ‘ዕጠቕ” on the northern half with the mandatory expected reply being “ወትሩ ዕጡቕ.” After that, the contract is stronger than a ten-finger finger printed document.

            I am more terrified to ask Memhir Saleh than face Mr. KH and his sharp spear. So, pray for me. By the way, do you know that you are my best friend in whole world and that I would die for you if necessary?

          • saay7

            Selamat His Fantiness:

            Well then: Etek! I will appeal your heartfelt case to Memher Saleh if you can do one of the following:

            1. Summarize AMAN’s political belief system: what is Amanism and what point of view is he promoting?

            2. A post by AMAN which is not a “To Whom It May Concern” type of writing but one that (a) has anything to do with the article he is posting under and (b) is in reply to another post.

            3. What exactly is the reason he is asking to change his pen name for? I know some people are accused of Z’aklen TiHinen, who are they and what exactly are they grinding?

            saay

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Fanti and Saay,
            One additional question to Saay’s question :
            Fabric, please state how many different nicks AMAN used in the last two years and how many times he was told not to do so and Was forced to abandon the nicks and revert to AMAN?

            All one has to do is change his nick and tell the forum members that he has changed his nick from X to Z. But that should not be a weekly “Timket”.

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello Memhir,
            May we be forgiven for disturbing your quiet time your highness.

            Brother AMAN,
            Please observe the above advice and post the following:

            “I, AMAN, a long time awate.com aficionado would like to announce that I am changing my very well known nick ‘AMAN’ to a hopefully soon to be a great name “AWATE.”

            And then make sure that you always sign up with your new name.
            Help me get home to family safe and sound tonight.
            Thanks.

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selam Saay,
            Your honor, if I may, I found a far better reason to defend him than those choices;

            ‘Gheteb > AMAN • 17 days ago.
            “Selam AMAN The Great (ATG),

            … BTW, I like your comments and I wish that you narrow the subject/issue/topic you cover in your comments. Your take on issues most of the time are quite unique. Hence why I kind of (sic) like them.”

          • saay7

            Selam His Fantiness:

            If it pleases the court, I would like to refer the honorable gentleman from Azebo-Raya (formerly Raya-Azebo) to the question posed below by the honorable gentleman from Keren.

            I yield the balance of my time to L.T. just because.

            saay

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          • ‘Gheteb

            Hi Fanti Ghana,

            Just recently your brethren from Planeta Abyssincus, Amde and Kim Hanna, had a field day claiming that ‘Gheteb is one and the same with AMAN. Now you brought what I exchanged with AMAN The Great to buttress your case. Hmmm… Hmmmmm……

            Well, that doesn’t get my dander up. NO. It doesn’t. I am merely registering an observation here.

            BTW, I don’t understand why “kind of” appeared odd or erroneous to “sic” it. Here is the dictionary definition of “kind of”:

            kind of
            phrase of kind
            1. informal
            rather; to some extent (often expressing vagueness or used as a meaningless filler).”it got kind of cozy”

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello ‘Gheteb,

            I needed supporting evidence badly to my subtle claim that I like what AMAN says most of the time, and I was ecstatic when I read you, one of our brilliant scholars, saying the same thing as what I would have liked to say to him.

            Although it was obvious what you meant, The ‘kind of’ was missing the ‘of’ part on the original post. Since I was quoting you, I had to insert the sic to be on the safe side (habit).

            PS:
            If Amde and KH confuse you with anyone, it only means they need some serious help. I hope you offered them your sympathy. Did you?

          • Amde

            Selam Fanti,

            The sympathy should be for ‘Gheteb, who obviously can’t read.

            Amde

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello Brother Amde,
            You better stand farther away from KH. ene yelehubetm.

          • Amde

            Selam Fanti,

            Are you saying not only can ‘Gheteb not read, but he can’t see either?

            Amde

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selam Amde,

            There is a funny quote in “The rise and fall of the third reich” that makes me laugh whenever I remember, and you will see why.

            When Nazi Germany was occupying one country after another in Europe, every country at least tried to put up some resistance if not for victory for their dignity. However, Denmark, a small flat land with no mountains to defend anything with, offered no resistance when the Germans came roaring. So, the author, William L. Shirer, puts their defeat like so:

            …” It has been said that the Danes were too civilized to fight in such circumstances; at any rate, they did not.”

            Do I need to elaborate?

          • saay7

            Hey His Fantiness:

            You are on a roll today! That quote about the Danes has a perfect complement: “…. Unlike the Poles who charged Nazi tanks with their cavalry….”

            saay

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selamat Saay,
            My boss’s son asked me for a favor with something which forced me to wake up 3 hours short of my daily dose. I may be experiencing some chemical reaction that is making me fully awake and talkative.
            I probably will collapse soon!

          • saay7

            Hey Fantiness:

            Many moons ago, I used to work for a union and any sentence that began with “My boss’s son asked me…” would have required an immediate rush to the union stewart to fight the power.

            Then I grew up and realized that union bosses are also bosses; they just dont wear ties.

            Go to sleep.

            saay

          • ‘Gheteb

            Hi fanti Ghana,

            Thanks for the correction. I didn’t know that the ‘of’ was missing. I double checked the original comment and you are right.

            In my opinion, I think the use of [ ] as in [of] would have signified that you have added the word ‘of’ to my original post.

            Sic, on the other hand, signifies as written ( odd, erroneous) and not that you have added a word.
            I hope you see where my confusion emanated from and again thanks a bunch!

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello ‘Gheteb,
            I think I was thinking something and ended up doing another. To be honest I didn’t pay attention. I copied and pasted, saw ‘of’ missing, and I put the sic and the ‘of’ both there and voila! Lesson learned.

        • Abi

          Fantastic
          Fanti mefoker enji mewerwer ayawqm.

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello Abisha,
            Readers, do not try the following at home!
            I have been successful a few times with fukera alone. Sometimes I stumble on opponents more afraid than I. Occasionally also paid the price for my big mouth, but some habits are hard to break.

          • Abi

            Fantastic
            Well, I change my mind.
            Fanti milas enji senber yelewum.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam my most cherished brother Abi,
            .
            Gerbayen Tebikilign.
            .
            Mr. K.H

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello Brother KH,
            Abi has been aching for an excuse anyway; you won’t have a problem there. The decent that you are, please wish me luck with Saay. It is not going to be that easy.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Fanti,
            .
            Don’t worry about ssay, we will use him as “Amalaj” if need be. AMAN, of course, will do what AMAN does to render the verdict and surprise us both.
            .
            Mr. K.H

          • saay7

            Selamat Mr KH:

            Ere tew, I don’t do that envoy thing. The worst job in the world has to be “people shepherd”, which is what surprises me most when people choose politics as a career.

            AMAN will come and write a post that has nothing to do with your discussions, with what is in this article, or any article. I think it was PTS once gave me a challenge to engage AMAN in a discussion and I didn’t take it.

            saay

        • Kim Hanna

          Selam Fanti, the greatest,
          .
          Zeraf! Zeraf!, Ye Menilik Ashker. This is not the 1st and it wont be the last, trust me.
          I just hope, in the middle of battle, AMAN doesn’t pull the rug from underneath. I have been there before.
          All of this in the name of a NAME. Well, brother Fanti of Raya, the issue is no longer the name, it is DIGNITY and HONOR.
          There we go.
          .
          Mr. K.H
          BTW: What is all this recruitment endeavor.

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello the most honored and dignified Mr. KH,

            Zeraf! Zeraf!

            እነማን ናቸው እኛን’ሚንቁ
            ደረስንባቸው ሳይታጠቁ፤

            አምሳ በቀኝ አምሳ በግራ
            ኃይለ ስላሴ ይሙት ሞትን አልፈራ፤፤

  • Berhe Y

    Hi Hope,

    You know what’s the problem with people like you and those Eritrean government sympathizes you spend your entire like looking for “enemies” where there is non exist. Listen to IA and his whole time as a leader, he is looking and creating enemies, and that apply to you and others.

    Why do you really care about Eritrean refugees, the same refugees that your government deny them as “African Migrants” and denied them burial in their own home lands.

    It’s Eritreans going to Ethiopia to be refugees and if you really care about Eritreans then instead of thinking about what Ethiopians are “benefiting, claiming Eritreans”, you would have solved the problem that makes Eritreans as refugees in the first place.

    Do you get what I mean, I’m other words, you are Burkina at the wrong tree.

    Berhe

    • Hope

      Berhe:
      Do not read unwritten stuff!
      We are not looking for Ebemies but identifying our enemies!
      That piece of new is no new but as ERITREANS,we have to protect our ID Theft,as it is a War against Eritrea!
      That piece of news came from within Ethiopia but if it does not concern you and you think reporting this news and debating on it as an ERITREAN issue is looking for enemies that do not exist,it is too bad and if you do not believe that the TPLF and its are not Eritrea’s Enemies you are,what now…,,,,?
      You rather are exposing your self on a day light!

      I told you before that if you are really an ERITREAN Highlanader and Christian but if you do not accept what the TPLF Elite repeatedly said publically that the ERITREAN Highlanders and Christians should be destroyed coz they are the back bone of not only the regime but also of Eritrea,then I rest my case with you.
      “Neti natensi ni endahamaten” !

      You et al amuse me when you try to demonize and curse Vets like Mahmud Salih and Semere Tesfai.

      That tells us a lot,buddy.
      But you have NO Moral Ground to act like more Catholic than the Pope.
      Good luck with your execution of the New TPLF propaganda Manual and Agenda.

    • Nitricc

      Hi Berhe; I think you are confused beyond repair. Most of your takes are boring and lacks commonsense. now; what is your problem if Hope has to state the obvious, that is the Weyane are using every toothless Eritrean refugee to their advantage. why would have a problem with the naked truth? Eritreans areAfricans therefore they are African immigrant! why would have a problem with that description? or you are implying that Eritreans are so unique and better than other Africans they should not be dubbed as African immigrants? is that what you are saying?

      • Berhe Y

        Nitricc,

        It’s good to see you that you are getting better, people like MS and Amde have been propping you up and now I hear you got the title of a General. ab Adi Uwer si beAl Hade Ayni ynegis.

        Off course Eritreans are Africans, the problem is when 99% percent of those drowned are Eritreans the official government of Eritrea (Eri-TV), I expect them to acknowledge that. By calling them “Africans Migrants” they wanted to give impression like they are made up of “migrants” from all other 54 African nations and it’s ok and it’s business as usual. Shifting responsibility.

        At the same time, they wanted to indicate that those Eritreans are migrants as in economic migrants like some other African countries but NOT Eritrean refugees running away from their oppressive government.

        Berhe

        • Nitricc

          Hi Berhe; “Shifting responsibility”
          of course i get it that you are an African and from what i can understand and observe; no one in Africa takes responsibility for their actions; always there is someone to blame. I get it, if not you could have understood that the Eritreans are not only economic immigrants but deserters as well and no self resecting government going to acknowledge and honor defectors who abandoned their posts.
          like i have said, i don’t blame you because you don’t understand and examine the situation freely. Like most africans; you are going to shift the blame like what you are doing now. for the record; every Eritrean who left his country is responsible for its actions and the government of Eritrea assumes no responsibility. the only responsibility that falls on the back of the Eritrean government is the people who are in the inside the country; so, Mr. Berhe; get your facts straight.

          • Berhe Y

            Nitric,

            First of all, what is the low that prevents an Eritrean from obtaining legal document such as passport, copy of their school transcript or diplomas?

            Which law is preventing people from leaving the country freely?

            As far as I know, there is no such official laws but people are denied these rights. Thus they decide to do it through unofficial way, which is crossing the boarder illegally, etc.

            Say for example you have a USA passport and you go on vacation on Mamila, on your own. Then if something happened in the hotel you are staying for example, do you think the American government 1) does not acknowledge that you are one 2) does not do anything to help you.

            The difference is, you left the country legally because you can. They would like to leave legally but they can’t.

            Just one question: it has been over 10 years since we use to write in this forum. I understood at the time, you had never been to Eritrea. I was away from AT for a while, did you manage to make it there in the last 10 years. The question I ask is, I think it would be good for you if you have first hand experience.

            While on the subject, have you been to Addis?

            You don’t have to answer if you don’t want.

            Berhe

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