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The Churning

There were two demonstrations in Geneva in June 2015 on the occasion of the Human Right Council’s 29th session (HRC 29): one was in opposition to the damning report issued to the HRC by a body it mandated, the Commission of Inquiry on Eritrea (CoIE), and the other was in support. There was, as usual, number inflation, which is common after every demonstration anywhere in the world: what is clear is that large groups of Eritreans showed up on both sides, for and against. HRC went on to extend the mandate of the CoIE and the Special Rapporteur for another year and expanded the mandate to investigate if crimes committed by officials of Government of Eritrea rise to the level of crimes against humanity. What is the UN’s Human Right Council likely to do next? What is the Government of Isaias Afwerki and its supporters likely to do next? What should the Eritrean opposition do next?

Human Rights Council

The HRC is a UN organ and it will move at UN speed. I know it is a shock to us Eritreans when they don’t “prioritize” our case but there are 193 countries in the world and many of them have existential problems. There are countries with “peacekeeping forces” since 1948-49 (Middle East/India-Pakistan) for God’s sake. If the UN’s Monitoring Group on Somalia and Eritrea is an indication, there will be reports, which will eventually be brought to the attention of the Security Council. Chances are the mandate will keep getting renewed and the reports will continue to be filed.

CoIE’s standard of proof—same one used by the CoI of North Korea; same one used by the COI of Syria—is “reasonable grounds exist to believe” and, by that standard, I believe the CoIE will find that crimes against humanity were committed in Eritrea. This is because “crimes against humanity” are, “widespread and systematic” attack against civilians including murder; enslavement; imprisonment; torture and enforced disappearance and “other inhumane acts of a similar character intentionally causing great suffering or serious bodily or mental injury.” This is not something that the Government of Isaias Afwerki does rarely or occasionally but all the time: it is a defining characteristic of the regime.

I believe then that the General Assembly will endorse CoIE’s finding—with China and Russia voting against. Some African states who are strong advocates of “African solutions to African problems” will probably chafe at this. And, in the end, proving “crimes against humanity” is a very difficult standard to meet, as CoIE’s chairperson explained, when there is no access to the country. And, the Security Council is yet to designate even wildly-publicized crimes against humanity like those in Srebrenica. (China abstained; Russia voted against.)

Government of Isaias Afwerki

Confronted with a damning report, the Eritrean government has, as expected, gone for Phase I of its three-phase response: categorical denial. Everything in the report of the Commission of Inquiry on Eritrea (CoIE) is a total fabrication, it said. Phase II, of which we saw a glimpse thanks to an untimely leak from the Eritrean consulate to Washington, DC, is proxy talks and back channels. Phase III is to signal activity in the absolutely bare minimum required to have people get off its back. These include claiming the constitution is being re-drafted; saying that the indefinite national service was “quietly” changed and is now only 18 months; teasing a Civil Code and Criminal Code based on no constitution is being finalized. Phase III includes pretending that it is “independent politics” to do things badly because you are doing them under pressure.

What is typical about the Government of Isaias Afwerki is that for a regime that brags about its political independence, the only time it changes is when intergovernmental agencies and foreign governments pressure it. In fact, it will eschew a significant percentage of its population as it “dialogues” and “debates” with the intergovernmental agencies and foreign governments about issues of governance, which should be our issue.   That is: the Isaias Afwerki regime is responsible for internationalizing Eritrea’s governance issues.

What is also clear is that, as is the case in every command-economy country, there is nothing unusual for the pro-government Eritreans to show up in large numbers. Like Santa, the government has a list of good boys and girls; and bad boys and girls; and if you are bad, you don’t get your toys: entry visa, title transfers, school transcripts. Instead of rebutting the CoIE argument—that the government victimizes Eritreans—their presence in short notice actually made it loudly: that the government can coerce Eritreans into showing up for any event by using its powers of intimidation. The surprise was the strong showing of Eritreans in support of CoIE.

Eritrean Opposition

So how did June 2015 demonstration in support of CoIE happen? Well, to quote Yemane Gebreab, “we should never underestimate our strength.” (Thanks, YG.) When the Commission of Inquiry was established in June 2014, the gears were set in motion. Since the Government of Isaias Afwerki was never going to let CoI into Eritrea, it had to collect testimonies from Eritrean exiles. This required the co-operation of Eritreans to round up Eritreans who are willing and able to give their testimonies: to inspire and embolden them to find their voice; to match the right people to the right role; to organize the logistics of meeting places, and to do it all within a tight deadline. All of these are the makings of an organization. A number of individuals and organizations—some from the established orgs, some from new orgs–volunteered for this and, by January, they were working together and had formed a co-ordinating committee.

The co-ordinating committee inspired other committees to spring up in Israel and Ethiopia and match the strength demonstrated in Geneva on June 26. I don’t know how much the pro-government demonstration contributed to the anti-government demonstration but it is so outrageous to see people exercising their freedom of assembly and freedom of speech to deny it to their compatriots in Eritrea, I suspect it was a factor.

So, for the Eritrean justice movement, the great news is not just that Eritreans can demonstrate in great numbers for the right cause, but that they can work together and plan and execute. This has, naturally, gotten everyone to ask: “How do we build on the momentum?” I think it is useful for us to see what happened and didn’t happen to learn some lessons:

1. People like to work with whom they trust; no matter how righteous your cause, if people don’t trust you, they won’t work with you.

2. People who have invested heavily in their organizations—time, resource, and money—are loath to give them up. They will work hard but only by carrying the banner of their organization.

3. People motivated by the right cause—showing support for the silenced Eritrean—are more likely to act than people motivated by the wrong cause—showcasing the strength of an organization.

4. Deadlines mean everything. In this instance everything had to be done to coincide with HRC 29 and things could not be postponed or delayed.

5. Common Cause: Eritrean opposition organizations have dozens of things they disagree about—this is natural: it is not an Eritrean thing; it is an organization thing—but all agree on one thing: the Isaias Afwerki government is committing crimes against the people of Eritrea with total impunity and must be stopped.

So how do we get the momentum going?

1. Standing Committee: We need the equivalent of the “co-ordinating committee” created not for an ad-hoc purpose but on a sustained level. Of course, this is not a new idea: the whole rationale for The Alliance and for the Bayto (Assembly) was just that. But I think we have a new model: this one stays, “don’t dissolve your organization; don’t merge; stay where you are: just send us someone we can work with.” It is the old debate from the revolutionary era: smur gnbar vs smret: united front vs unity.   And I think united front just won.

2. Focus on the people. No offense intended but nobody except the members of the organizations care about their ordinary, extraordinary meetings and congresses. People want to know what is being done to advance the cause of the people in Eritrea. And organizing demonstrations, organizing events gets people to know and trust one another and get results.

3. Deadlines. We say that Eritrea needs salvation but we can’t have salvation without a deadline. Everything consequential needs a deadline. The deadline can be moved—see also: US-Iran talks—but without the pressure of a deadline our pace will go back to what it was: the scenic route. Obviously we are not talking about a date certain to remove the Isaias Afwerki regime but to create a formidable opposition that can degrade the regime. This means deadlines for increasing the rolls of the opposition; deadlines for increasing resources—all of which will require pooling all the resource of every individual and organization who wants to bring justice in Eritrea.

4. Common Cause: The Geneva demonstrators had different goals: from those who wanted “down down with Isaias” to those who wanted him taken to ICC to those who were vocalizing their silenced family members who have been made to disappear for decades. What all had in common was a quest for justice. We will have disagreements on how this comes about but our first demand is that everything itemized by the CoIE should stop now and that those who are responsible for it should be brought to justice in a court of law.

5. Ownership: The events of Geneva, Israel and Ethiopia were organized by Eritreans and attended by Eritreans and celebrated by Eritreans. Geneva was a case where there was an overlapping interest between what the international community wants and what we want. And as we go forward, we need to keep that in mind: that those who are traveling with us may find that their interest diverge from ours.

Here’s a perfect example of that. As you know, the Millenial Development Goals (MDGs), which had no demand of good governance at all, are expiring in September to be replaced by the Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs) run by banks (a different and bitter subject.) One of the 17 goals is “peace and justice” and “peace and justice” have little to do with our understanding of them.

The strategy of Government of Isaias Afwerki is to rely on the fickleness of the international community and their eagerness to be engaged to avert a power vacuum (the kind that requires them committing peacekeepers and refugee tents for decades.) Our strategy is to rely on our strength and our capacity to find common cause with people and organizations who are opposed to institutionalized torture, abduction and disappearance.

At least we are churning. I haven’t seen the Eritrean opposition as dynamic as the potential it showed in 2002.  And all we have to do is avoid all the mistakes we did since then. Very hard, but very doable.

About Salyounis

Saleh Younis (SAAY) has been writing about Eritrea since 1994 when he published "Eritrean Exponent", a quarterly print journal. His writing has been published in several media outlets including Dehai, Eritrean Studies Review, Visafric, Asmarino and, of course, Awate where his column has appeared since the launch of the website in 2000. Focusing on political, economic, educational policies, he approaches his writing from the perspective of the individual citizens' civil liberties and how collectivist governments and overbearing organizations trample all over it in pursuit of their interests. SAAY is the president and CEO of a college with a focus in sound arts and video games and his writing often veers to music critique. He has an MBA from Golden Gate University and a BA from St Mary's College.

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  • Vanessa Hill

    Excellent idea – we need to join up as Eritreans and move up a gear to remove Isaias and his clique from power. That can only be achieved through unity and (as you say) we do not need to agree on everything and indeed it would be pretty sad if we did.

    Life Experience Degree

  • Nitricc

    SAD! IS she crying?

  • selam

    Dear Michael .T
    First i am not up there like your mam , i mean i am not old. And if you thought th moma or mamma is some thing hidden , well get to know that i am not. As for the deportee thing well , you wouldn’t know . It is just 1998 and up there to 2000 , i mean it is not so old history that 80,000 people get snatched from the street and every thing taken from them by weyane .It is a dark history in our history where komal chenawi meles used his evil deeds to hammer our people.
    I have only one thing in common with you and that is UNITED fronted against DIA apart from that you are a stretched ballon. I mean your weyane help is not free and if you have any clue you wouldn’t support weyane chenwuti help.

  • Saleh Johar

    HaileTG and Saay,

    Last night I was searching Netflex and I came across “My Italian Secret: The Forgotten Heroes.” The story is about Gino Bartala, an Italian cyclist, Tour De France winner, twice, and some heroic deeds during WW2 when he collaborated with Catholic monasteries to help Jewish victims. That made me thing about Daniel, our Tour De France winner. Maybe it is my wish to see our artists and sports persons play a more useful role in helping the current struggle. So far, let me say, it is disappointing rare.

    If you want a quick info, check here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gino_Bartali

    • haileTG

      መርሓባ SGJ

      ፈለማ፣ ርሑስን፡ ቡሩኽን ዒድ ይግበሮ ንኹልና።

      መቸስ፡ እቲ ቡን ጥዑም ነይሩ፣ ቁርሲ-ቡን እንዶ ስጋ ሰብ ኮይኑ! ከይብሉና እምበር፡ በዚ ዘልዓልካዮ ነጥቢ ዝሕመዩስ ኣደታቶም ይቑጽርኦም። In today’s Eritrea, there is hardly any viable social fabric that ties the society through recognized social roles. One devastating legacy of the IA regime is leaving behind a society that has no meaningful role models to look up to (in terms of social roles). If you visit any of the peoples militia Ta’Elim places, you will see a 20 year old ዓላማይ disparaging a 58 year old friend of his father for not running faster or putting one feet in front of the other for gam man. Freselam Mussie said recently that one of his lows as an artist was when known singers and artists (him included plus people like Fihira) were sent to conduct Giffa in Sembel area of the capital. The kind of undertaking that you are rightly expecting from such successful Eritreans assumes that their self esteem and sense of self worth is intact. How can one have that in PFDJ Eritrea? It assumes sense of confidence in one’s own roles, how can one develop in such a normal way in PFDJ Eritrea? Eritreans, when their dignity of person is restored after the current dark era, will sure develop the sense of self ownership to assume their natural social role as per the norms and traditions of the society they will be living in. Unfortunately, at this time PFDJ has robbed their self worth (to those who are at home). The real deal is worse, much much worse and the everyday stories and the reactions to them are testament to that. ሓው’ሲ ፈውሲ ሓዉ፣ ሓደው ከምዘይተወልደ ፡-)

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IoNqbR4Vkc

  • saay7

    Hailat:

    ኣንታ ሃይላት፤ what do you mean that CoIE evaluated Eritrea post 1991: ኣይትነቓንቆም ተጋደልቲ ተሓኤ ስኖም ነኺሶም ኣለዉ:) CoIE went all the way to ancient Eritrean history and it interpreted it exactly the way the Revolutionary School taught it. At some point the Eyobs and TKs are coming at it with their guns:)

    Well, while I don’t disagree with you on Isaias’s tendency to run away from any bad news (absent during Badme War, absent during Lampedusa) and to run to any good news (greeting returning cyclists), he meets one criteria of leadership: he has followers.

    I am waiting to hear from Tzigereda, and the two Saras on their criteria for a leader. Selam already told us but since I belong in the age group that she says should just shut the hell up (45+) while she tells me what to tell everybody else, I am confused. It is probably my advancing age:)

    saay

    • haileTG

      selamat saay,

      Happy Eid!

      Actually what I meant by the CoIE evaluating post 91 was only regarding the human right abuses, otherwise you’re right on the narration side. I should have said “investigated” rather “evaluated”.

      Now, until we have the candidate woman come along, let me kill some time 🙂

      Your minimal standard to pass IA for a leader because he has followers is acceptable, provided we also include Abune Aregawi and Abune Gabir too:) Here is an observation that really strike me puzzled: even when something is a good news, IA often shy away from it or contradicts it. It is actually his admirers who pester us by making linkages between IA and the “good news”. Please refer to how IA reacts to every “good news”, it is not by acknowledging and celebrating the “good news”, rather by belittling it and pouring cold water over it. Listening to IA answer to any question between the lines, he would start his reply with a “No…” (in disagreement) than a “Yes…” (in agreement) even when something is so obviously agreeable. The guy is chronically disagreeable and serial runner:-). Let me predict his reply to Daniel T/Haimanot’s success:

      ሕቶ፡ ክቡር ፕረሲደንት፡ ተቐዳዳማይ ሽግለታ ዳንኤል ተ/ሃይማኖት ዓቲርዎ ዘሎ ገዚፍ ዓወት ኣብ እስፖርት ሃገርና ዘለዎ ጽልዋ እንታይ ክኸውን’ዩ ትብል?

      መልሲ፡ ኣነ ብዙሕ ሚድያ ኣይከታተልን’የ። ግን ሓደ ኩልግዜ ዝብሎ ነገር ኣሎ፣ ነቲ ሞዛይክ ካብ ቅንጥብጣብ ናይቲ ስእሊ ዘይኮነ ኣላጋጊብካ ክትርእዮ ይሓይሽ። ንጉስ ዓቐበ ይብሉ ገሊኦም ሰባት፣ ኣዝዩ’ዩ ዝገርመኒ! ዋላ ሰጣሕ ጎልጎል እንተረኣና’ውን፡ እቲ ጎልጎል ይኹን፡ አቲ ዓቐብ፡ አንተላይ እታ ሽግለታ ሓዊስካ፡ ገና ብቁልቁል ክንዛረብ እውን ኣይከኣልናን ዘለና። ንሕና ብጀካ እቲ ስፖርታዊ ዓቕሚ ሰብ ኣብ ምፍራይ፡ ንሱ ከማን ብትሑት ከኢላዊ ዓቕሚን፡ እቲ ኣብ መንጎ ቕድድምን፡ ንህድማ ተባሂሉ ዝግበር ስግረ-ዶብ ምውንጫፍን ክልሰ-ሓሳባዊ ፍልልያት ብጉቡእ ከይተረዳእካ ዝግበር ዳም ዳም፣ ምስናይ ጎቦን ቁልቁልን ይትረፍ ዋላ ብሶላ ዘይብለን ጃላቡ ተወጢሕካ ዝግበር ባሕርያዊ ምህንዳድ ፈላሊና ክንርእይ ይግባእ። ብሓቂ እቲ ጉዳይ እንታ’ዩ፡ እዚ ኹሉ ጉያ’ኸ ናበይ’ዩ? ስለዚ፡ ደሓን እስኪ ኢልና፡ ግዜ ምጽባይ መሪጽና’ሎና።

      ምስጋና፡ እምበአር’ከስ ክቡራት ተኸታተልትና፡ ክቡር ፕረሲደንት ካብ ጽዑቕ መደባቱ ግዜ ሂቡ፡ ነዚ ዓሙቕን መሃርን ትንተና ዘካፈለና ብሽምኩምን፡ ብሽም ኩሉኹም ብመርበብ ሓበሬታ ኣለናልኪ፡ ተስፋኒውስ፡ ማዶት ዳት ኮም ራይሞቕ ኮንኩም ትከታተሉ ዘለኹም ነመስግን።

      Off camera: That is it I am off to Sudan or Ethiopia 🙂

      Regards

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Dear Hailat & Saay

        Yes we have the Eritrean Indira Gandhi, the Eritrean Margaret Thatchers, the Eritrean Angela Merkels,
        the Eritrean Golda Miers out there if we can overcome the Eritrean male chauvinism. They have already shown their competence in different capacity.

        Regards,
        Amanuel. HIdrat

      • Berhe Y

        Thanks Hailat,

        Eid Mubarek.

        That was great. Have you heard someone imitating IA talking about bicycle. I don’t have the link but I thought it was funny.

        BY

      • Mahmud Saleh

        Dear HTG
        That’s an exercise I do with a friend every year IA interview is announced. You have done really well. Now, give us a simulated response of the government to an issue.Hint: the writers compose their response in away it will please please IA, not based on the text in front of them. That’s why people find it boring. Editorials of Hadas Ertra, Eritv, and others are written that way.

        • haileTG

          Merhaba Mahmuday,

          Very happy and Blessed Eid to you too brother. Here is how IA’s response was reported:-)

          ፕረሲደንት ኢሰያስ ኣፈወርቂ፡ ንጋዜጠኛታት ውሽጢ ሃገር ኣብ ዝሃቦ ቃለ-መሕትት፣ እስፖርታዊ ንጥፈታት ብኩሉ መዳያዊ ምትብባዕ መንግስትን ህዝብን ተኮስኩሶም፡ ንኹሉ ዓይነታት ክሊማን፡ ጂኦግራፍያዊ ባይታ ውድድርን ብዝብድህ፡ ኣገባብ ክምዕብሉ ኣተሓሳሲቡ። ፕረሲደንት ኢስያስ ነዚ ዝገለጸ ነቲ መንግስቲ ዓቢ ወፍርን ምትብባዕን ገይርሉ ልዑል ውጽኢት ዘመዝግብ ዘሎ ተቐዳዳማይ ሽግለታ ዳኒኤል ተ/ሃይማኖት ብዝተሓሓዝ፡ ኣብ ዝሃቦ ስፍሕ ዝበለ መጽናዕታዊ ትንተና እዩ። ምስዚ ኣተሓሒዙ፡ ፕረዚደንት ኢሰያስ፡ ነቶም ብሸርሒታት ናይ ደገ ሓይልታት ካብ ሃገር ክወጹ ዝተገደዱ ዜጋታት፡ ኣብ መጻኢኦም ዘውሕስ ሙያዊን ስፖርታውን መዳያት ብምጽዓት፡ሃገሮም ክሃንጹ ኣተሓሳሲቡ። ጋዜጣ ሓድስ ኤርትራ ሓምለ 2015 ፡-)

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Dear ሃይለ ሓያል
            ስማዕ’ስከ ኣታ ሃይለ፡ ንምንታይ ደኣ ጋዲ ንሳልሕ ዮኑስ ቲቪ-ኤረን ሻባይትን ብብዝሒ ዝከታተል ኣባልና ኢሉ ዘውርየሉ? ኣብዚ’ንዶ የለኻን ብዓቢኻ?

          • haileTG

            Dear Mahmuday,

            One has to know his adversary to the point of exact replica to defeat it. Such necessity ultimately turns the adversary to be one that is indispensable, albeit that such seems counter intuitive to imagine at first. This is probably why Baltasar Gracián once observed “…a wise man gets more use from his enemies than a fool from his friends” 🙂

      • selam

        Dear haile

        you forget one special and dubious sentence from this evil man and that is “mealtu mis akele kizrebelu yu “. He always use that sentence and i always say , can some one cut his throat off his neck.

  • selam

    Dear All minus weyane sympathisers
    The Eritrean opposition need a self examination and they should do it fast.
    First they should reject weyane aid in any case (semere the canadian and hayat the warmongering will piss off)
    second they should distance from idiot activists who are destroying honest struggle
    Third the activists should rule by example , i mean less blame game
    Fourth they should forum an umbrella that can hold all groups minus the ethnically driven idiot groups
    at last i guess saay will write 1000 articles asking for the opposition to regroup or he will drive door to door or rob call system , begging them to sit and talk , poor saay it would be a great service for the Eritrean people if you name some peoplewho are dragging us backwards . Name them there is no shame in dissolving idiots who are keeping the energetic
    youth back. Any one above 45 years old should be eliminated from any leadership of the opposition the reason for that is .
    A. They are more or less PFDJ or ELF with wrong strategy
    B. They can not hide their evil work and so we will not forgive their work too
    C. They are too attached to their experience of self serving attitudes
    E. They talk on personal data than the interest of our people
    D. Most of them are criminals , you want prove , see the ambasador who was an instrument for DIA.

    Again weyane and DIA should be in one bag as Eritrean people enemy.

    • Michael Tesfamariam

      Mom Selam
      I am sorry to tell you that I am pro any country or individuals who recognise and provide protection to those of Eritreans who flee torture and rape in Eritrea. According to this simple logic, I have got to support woyane against PFDJ. so, do you think I should deserve Eritrean citizenship?

      • selam

        Dear MT
        Do you think weyane gave refugee Eritreans because they love them , if you say so , you must be some one from , well you know from where i am saying. Second , you are forgetting all Eritreans go to ethiopia to pass to other coubtry not to work there or take the gun and kill their brothers, they are smarter than your hallow head is thinking. Third , you are just behined the computer asking for weyane help , can some one from canada like semere the canadian come and pick the gun , no he will not do that and i will agreecwith your hallow comment in order not to give you my opposing veiw to make you comptent. Just read your news sir or bragg with your weyane machine untill it is dead.

    • Tewelde G/mariam

      Yes, that is the only way forward, to put woyane and isaias afewerki as one and the same, enemies of our people and country. But there are other crucial points as well; the sacrosanctity of Eritrean Sovereignty, its Territorial Integrity and the implementation of its maiden Constitution ratified in 1997.

      There are those who claim that woyane is a friend of Eritrea and Eritreans. This of course is untenable position in the context of historical antecedent and current hostilities emanating from Ethiopia. The 1952 UN convo!uted resolution to yoke Eritrea in a shame federation with Ethiopia had been reluctantly accepted by Eritreans. However, as it turned out, for Ethiopia that sham federation was a stepping stone for forceful and complete annexation, which was the cause of the brutal Thirty Year War of Liberation in which hundreds of thousands of our finest youngsters paid with their precious lives to resurrect the dignity of their people.
      Now, we are having a setback; the legacy of freedom fighters is hijacked by isaias afewerki and his footsoldiers who have leaving no stone unturned breaking wholsale the social and political fabric of our people and their economic infrastructures. All these horrendous bulldozing is being done under the deceptive guize of patriotism and scapegoats. And it is not by accident but by design that the all out attack on our fundamentals look almost a cabon copy of what the Ethiopian regime did in the past.

      Although these evil activities of our home grown enemies started probably in 1966 with the joining of isaias afewerki to ELF and has been growing its destructive power ever since, it was in 1980 that the home grown enemies reared their heads to the open to make alliance with Ethiopians, the woyane, to wipe out the mother organization, the ELF.

      Many of us might not have observed back then but with the disintegration of ELF and flooding of the Sudan with its members, two occurrences transpired one after the other: George Bush, the then CIA chief arrived to Khartoum, where upon UNHCRs began to open their offices throughout the Eastern Sudan and started to shiping Eritreans to the USA, Canada, Australia etc. On the other hand, woyane began rancor with the EPLFs , and to draw the former cadres of ELF to its fold.

      The question for us now is: was the action of the USA humanitarian , or was it a manifestation of its secret involvement against the Eritrean cause? What about that of woyane: was its apparent new love for exELF cadres a manifestation of regret of its involvement in our internal affairs and real split with Isaias Afewerki, or to keep perpetually alive the wedge between the EPLFs and exELF as a means of systematically killing our cause.

      Let’s bring the Badme issue; if indeed there was a split between isaias afewerki and woyane, why did isaias afewerki handed over Badme to woyane and then turned around and waged illegal and unnecessary war to retake it back. It does not make sense. And nobody can attribute it to isaias afewerki’s mental deficiency; he is very intelligent man, albeit evil. Besides, his accession as the supreme commander of the EDFs during the Ethiopian Third Offensive which was followed by the devastating loss the EDFs suffered for the first time. Add to this, the subsequent destructive steps he took over those senior EPLF officials for demanding investigation on the war and implementation of the Constitution. He could have done all these to hide his conspiracy in collusion with woyane and perhaps with USA against our people and country. Besides, the secret interview the late Meles Zenawi allegedly gave to Paul Henze, exCIA official and former president Carter National Security advisor, in 1990, categorically asserted that isaias afewerki does not believe in Eritrean independence.

      In the light of all these evidences, who, among us Eritreans, would still persist in his/her claim that woyane ,in collusion with isaias afewerki, has not been conducting subversive activities? I say, only the incurable naive, or a member of the reconstituted, Mahmber Andnet.

      • selam

        Dear Tewelde G
        I may not take all the ELF AND EPLF thing because it is not interesting at this time unless You have nailed every thing from 1952 up to now , the evil deeds of weyane and PFDJ is countless , at this site and especially at this forume no one tend to think that weyane are our enemies , if you see most of them are just giving weyane every positive and who can blame them , if you see southerners commenters are here for a reason and if you also check the peo8le who think weyane is our friends are just not that much important in our fight against DIA. Some people get alergi if you insult weyane and their sympathisers , it is mind boggling to think that there are Eritreans who think weyane are friends of Eritrean people. I suspect such people are not Eritreans and they contribute zero to our fight against DIA. It is bad time here , come with such comment and trust me some sympathetic to weyane will have alergi on their tung. I thank you for your take and ask you to come everyday.

        • Tewelde G/mariam

          Thank you Selam,

          No one is immune from mistake, as they say , to err is human. I myself was deceived for a long time by the con artistry of isaias afewerki into the wrong belief that the 1998 war was caused by woyane and that the insults they were hurling against each other were real and not theatrical. It was as early as 2011 that I woke up after personally witnessed the sad state of the people and the country, and when he recanted his word for national election. It was then that I became convinced that this guy is a hoax who planted himself in our midst , like HIV, to wreck us from within.

          The moral of the story is that if I could mend my way, then others can too. If there is a good will within each of us for the sanctity of our sovereignty and territorial integrity of our country, then we shall overcome the hurddles that our vicious enemies have been throwing in our way to trip us down. And in due course, the hoaxes that are not yet identified will of necessity be discovered and removed because as our enemies become more and defined, our goal precise, our unity stronger and wider, they will have no place to hide. But again, we will not rest until the legacy of our Martyrs is redeemed and the honor of our people restored ,come what may.

  • tes

    Dear Awatawyan

    I would like to share with you what Khalid Abdu is saying about Geneva

    I know he is an active reader of awate forum comments. He argued withe the concept of silent majority*

    And another point he stressed is about those who complained about dinner. He didn’t want to mention the name actually. he seems that he knew exactly who was complaining.

    Profession can not let one to be free from observing what is a weakness in his area of interest.

    I am a food engineer by profession and my dream is to see Eritreans food secured.

    My motto is, “Every Eritrean, not only he has the right to food but to the right quality, with an affordable price, a food that he appreciates and fond of, and what he should eat at the right time”.

    Everything I see a weakness on this regard I speak to correct. Even when I was in Eritrea, I stood for the rights of students to have food all time.

    And what I saw in Geneva, I put it here during my report as a weakness for the dinner party. I did that from two observations. In Bologna, there was a food provision: breakfast and dinner. Everytime there was a serious shortage. As food engineer and one who cares about food, I always put serious look in these matters. No Eritrean should starve.

    above all, no one is going there for food. We have a cause to be there. But if the organizers arranged it, they should do it nicely.

    Therefore, my message is: everything should be considered.

    In my previous comment, I noted that we should not export poverty to the already people who is forced to live in poverty. Very few may live by words but for the majority food is crucial.

    In fact, my main political struggle is to change the food policy of PFDJ.

    Access to food should not be questioned. Eveyone has a right to food. Not only right to food but to fod that he really enjoys.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UUNkqhfPUpW4HS7Bvqu2NNOg&t=2354&v=k4o9oUTjOCo

    tes

    *saay7, was he pointing at you?

    • Amanuel

      Hi Tes
      Considering how disorganise we (the justice seekers) are Geneva was a success and we shouldn’t compare it to Bologna as it will not be comparing like with like. You know well the numbers are not comparable and they are two different countries where food prices are very expensive in Swiss. Having said that, I don’t mean it was perfect and positive criticism supported by solution should be welcomed.

      On another note when you say “No Eritrean should starved.” Are you suggesting there was starvation in Geneva? Or is it a general comment or slogan? If that is the latter, is should be, no Living should starved.

      At last not least, happy Eid Al Fitr to all muslim friends.

      • tes

        Dear Amanuel,

        As you have put it, it not meant to the Geneva. I was talking on general one and it is a slogan. When you say, “No living should [be – and i forget in mine too] starved” is very inclusive and I am still ok with it. But I was talking about Eritrea at that moment. Therefore take it from that angle.

        You see dear Amanuel, PFDJ has used food as weapon to control Eritreans. he confiscated the land and started to give food on ration. He did that in two ways: one by enslaving the working people and forced them to stay away from their land. and second: by contrlling farming activity through collective farming system and I oppose the two.

        Regarding Geneva and Bologna, I see them as equal. What we should accept is our deficiency in organizing the already organized occasions. In Geneva and Bologna, there was weakness in organizing the already organized people. It is a matter of miscommunication.

        I am bringing these issues because I want a higher form of organizing capability. Regarding appreciation, I am one who appreciated the event repeatedly and I was so happy to be there in person.

        Dear Amanuel, the thing here is: we should not follow the same path PFDJ had followed. Food, music, bla bla should not be part of our calling system. Let people eat food they brought by themselves. It is a mistake to prepare food for such gatherings. Everybody is aware of the western living style. If you do that in the frontline, (ginbar), yes, food is a must. But here, why?

        I wish the money spent in such kind of occasion was donated to those who are not getting 3 meals per day in the refugee camp. We need to revolutionalize our mode of gatherings. I could be much happier if individual Eritreans who are interested in that kind of food supply engage and provide a fairly ppriced meal. And this can be arranged by making a contract with the organizing committe.

        With respect

        tes

        • Amanuel

          Hi Tes
          I agree with most of what you have said. Just on the provision food, i don’t see it as simple as that. I see it as meAdi where a family come together eat and talk, the soft talk. And it is part of our culture when ever we have been to comment task (like wedding, funeral or woFera) we come together and share what ever we have.

          Have a nice day

          Amanuel

          • tes

            Dear Amanuel,

            I think I have said it in my comment. In case you missed it, here it reads,

            “”Every Eritrean, not only he has the right to food but to the right quality, with an affordable price, a food that he appreciates and fond of, and what he should eat at the right time”.”

            You are just re-stating it.

            tes

          • Amanuel

            Hi Tes
            Sorry I was not clear when I was talking about food provision. I was talking specifically about Geneva. I think you said it was a mistake.
            .

          • tes

            Dear Amanuel,

            I didn’t say that. You are misreading me. Check my lines. It is a postive criticism for future events.

            This was my main message,

            “I am bringing these issues because I want a higher form of organizing capability.”

            tes

          • Amanuel

            Hi Tes
            I think these are your words.”Let people eat food they brought by themselves. It is a mistake to prepare food for such gatherings.”

          • tes

            Dear Aamanuel,

            I don’t want to indulge myself to such discussions but if you are insisting, yes it is a mistake. When I say that I have plenty of reasons.

            We should liberate our people from PFDJ’s method of oragnizing system. People should be able to come for his cause. Unnecessary budget for nothing is a sign for future corruption. Again when I say this I have a reason.

            Therefore, dear Amanuel, I am responsible for what I say. But remember, I said in the first remark just as an opinion. But now as a point.

            With respect

            tes

          • Amanuel

            Hi Tes
            I think you said ” as food engineer and one who cares about food, I always put serious look in these matters.” Now you don’t want indulge your self in such discussion. Please make up your mind. I also observed that you have a habit of saying something and when people challenge on that, first accuse them of misquoting or misreading you, but when they confront you with evidence try to deflect the subject. Let me tell you why I come to awate? To share ideas and learn but not to win an argument.

            Have a nice day
            Amanuel

          • tes

            Dear Amanuel,

            I didn’t say you misquaoted me. I told you what I care for and why I brought that subject matter. When you followed my point, then I have to check and bring my major point.

            Here are my three points.

            1. Wwhat I saw in Geneva was a failure to organize an organized mass gathering.

            2. We should aavoid PFDJ’s style of organzing me.

            3. Rasing funds in such events for sake of providng food and when it happens in the wrong can be a possible incubation for corruption.

            I am here putting my observation and positive criticism. Then to discuss with you I put my point. What then more do you want?

            If you have challenges to what I put well come.

            The point I mentioned about my profession is to specify the loophole I observed and my wish to correct it.

            Now, well come.

            tes

          • Amanuel

            Hi Tes
            1. Yes, in the Geneva there were weakness but saying it was a failure with out suggesting on how to improve is not enough.
            2. I have said twice that it is an Eritrean culture after a completion of comment task for the participants to come together share what they have. The MeAdi helps to bond, solidify and talk (soft talk). You are wrong when you level this tradition as PFDJ style of gathering. For that mater I must admit that PFDJ are very good at gathering and guaila and nothing is wrong with coping from the best.
            3. I agree, this can cause a miss approportion of funds if it was not done in a very organised way but I won’t call it will lead to corruption. For example once the oranazing commettee is set up, it can raise funds and put it aside for such events. Then when ever food is needed for such gathering, it can be put to a tender for private providers in an open and transparent way.

            Have a nice day
            Amanuel

          • tes

            Dear Amanuel,

            1. I brought the weakness and you approved it. Then suggest your own. Why you are waiting everything to come from one, Aren’t we fighting for everyone to have his say?

            2. There is a difference between Eritrean and PFDJ culture. And there is no soft talk but a wise talk; there is is a difference here too brother Amanuel. And if you are saying I am wrong, I might be but you might probably be wrong too by saying, “PFDJ are very good at gathering and guaila…”

            PFDJ never gathers but divides. It is because of PFDJ that we are leaving divided. I agree with you in one regard and that is the guaila. Yes, as cult worshippers, they are good in guaila. Don’t you know that guaila is not welcomed by most of Eritrean religions (Moslems for example do not play though young people can do it by going far from the village? In Blin, old people do not play but they let young people enjoy outside.

            Guaila and the the way PFDJ handles is not Eritreanhence I disagree with you. I will not say you are wrong as you said simply because you are just expressing your opinion. Remember, you don’t have an absolute truth in Eritrean culture. And I am afraid that you are too much inclined to the revolutionary culture.

            3. If you agree that it can cause a miss approprotion of funds, it is enough. the later is a matter of saying it. I am saying it and you are not and this is our unique quality. It is not necessary to say the same word.

            Are you still to this point? I welcome you for more challenging questions. Just drop your prejudice as it will not help you to make your point.

            tes

          • Abi

            Hi Amanuel
            I feel your pain. You see, you are debating with two people in one . The original comment was by Tes. Now you are debating with tes.
            You are chasing a ghost. He is playing ” peek -a-boo” with everyone.
            Talk about a moving target.

          • tes

            Dear Abi,

            Kindly stop interferring. Be it Tes or tes, he managed to let you get lost in the game. By now Abi is no where.

            tes

    • Nitricc

      Hi Tes; no one gives a flying hoot about this big mouthed, good for nothing opportunistic Khaled, he didn’t even went to Sawa! for you to follow him and talk about him makes you a loser

      my reason to write is not about that person but i wanted to ask you is when you said

      “I am a food engineer by profession and my dream is to see Eritreans food secured”

      are you saying you are going to feed the Eritrean people with Engineered food? what does it mean to be “food Engineer? Can you explain please.

  • saay7

    Selamat Michael:

    You think? I think those in exile who support the IA regime are either those who left during the Haileselasse/Derg era or their Diaspora-born children. The former know that they are just supporting the home team (they have close family members arrested, disappeared, abused and they know the nature of the regime); the latter…well, for them Eritrea (in the abstract) is a source of identity and pride.

    What I don’t want us to do is be frustrated and ask, “how can they possibly support…?” because it is not unique to Eritrea. There is a large Chinese Diaspora in the US who are very supportive of their communist government back home. Why? Because “some societies” just deserve authoritarian governments. That’s how some of our compatriots feel about their own people and country and we are duty bound to help them evolve, step-by-step.

    saay

    • selam

      Dear Sir Saay
      Do you think the chines in the U.S are ignorant , an educated , know nothing about democracy ? I can not find any history book which say , a government of so called country …..has taken out 300 million people from poverty . You want the balance act of your beloved america , ask the 45 million people who hate every thing about their system so called a family election of American election. You want to sale american democracy please ship it to greece . Did not the greece people vote by 61% to the no austerity measure ? You want additional read ok , i ask you to rewinde your explanation about greece . Democracy is not only a regime in which those who govern are selected through contested elections, but more fundamentally a system of government in which parties lose elections. You may not support this because some southernes and Eshi Goytaye are blufring about Weyane and it seems you need some one like meles to come on behave of africa, you can’t be so serious to think that meles was good for Africa , come on saay you lose and gain nothing by saying the truth such us meles was not better than any one except for saling his land and locking oromo people, oh i forget oromo does not exist on your intelligent head.

      Multi-party elections grant citizens a powerful weapon to use against unresponsive elected officials: The ability to “throw the rascals out” and turnovers have been shown to reinforce the legitimacy of political institutions and deepen democratic consolidation, well i can point finger to the opposite like EPRDF wh7 are rooted criminals.

      Yet, the mechanism of vertical accountability whereby the people can hold elected politicians responsible, depends on political opposition providing voters a choice. In other words, elections must include credible opposition parties in order to serve as instruments of democracy , this is not normal in Africa .The role of an opposition party is to check and prod, but ultimately to replace the governing party. In order to do this, it must so conduct itself as to persuade the people of the country that it could be an improvement on the government of the day. No one will deny that any democratic system works best when there is a change of government at reasonable intervals. Sorry to disappoint you saay none of our opposition groups have any plan except , blame , blame . In most countries being an opposition is not a death sentence but in our case it is death and suffering and on top of that we found ourselves in between a committed mad man and diverse opposition grouos who have a lot of liablity . Good luck on your deleting my reply.

      That is why Benjamin Disraeli’s dictum that ‘no government can long be secure without a formidable opposition’ has been proved true and fully valid for the health and efficiency of a democracy. Wherever the system of representative democracy has been established, the importance of a healthy, effective, vigilant and principled opposition has been fully realized as something indispensable.

  • Nitricc

    Hi step one; lol you are funny. don’t mind them lol. there is nothing more they can talk about but the toothless Geneva. lol there is more bad news to revenge seekers. Her bussines about to close and she is crying lol
    read
    http://meskerem.net/11722415_10200806002508630_1256183675468530001_o.jpg

    • Ted

      Hi, Nitric, let me ask you a question. if you were a White person in Geneva during the protest, would you be surprised by the number of people for Pro-Gov or against it? The COI study group lied to themselves(and opposition pick it up) saying the Gov have a long reach to coerce people to come to Geneva to protest, nothing could be further from the truth: Eritrean people come together defending Eritrea under the threat of COI. As you know UN/US/EU/ have left no stone unturned to see Eritrea down in the name of justice, freedom and what have you but time and time again they fail to influence the “kebero Junky” to go along their evil plan destabilizing Eritrea. I wouldn’t be surprised if Western powers have come to realize Eritreans are willing to sacrifice their freedom for the country they call home. If the opposition fail to realize the need for Eritrean made grass root opposition for justice by now, i am afraid, we are at the mercy of Eritrean Gov to do us justice.

      PS. The darling of the horn, Weyane, have bitten more than it can chew to stay on her own feet let alone influence the region.

      • Nitricc

        Hi Ted; forget being white person on the street of Geneva; being a any human being is a surprise to see people coming to defend their government, at that a government from Africa. When last time there was a demonstration in DC; one white police officer summated it up best. “I have been a police officer for 22 years and I have seen many demonstrations over the years and they all demonstrated against their government. This is the first time people are demonstrating to defend their governments” so, Ted, there is no surprise for people to demonstrate against their government; it is done every where.
        Although; what the so-called opposition failed to understand is; most Eritreans the attack against the government of Eritrea is considered to be an attack at the nation her self. There this strong image that the government is a care taker of the nation while the opposition; the revenge seekers and the weed-out crowed; whatever you want call them are considered no to care about the nation. So; the demonstration that witnessed in Geneva defending the government; they were really defending Eritrea. No opposition will make a dent within the majority till they reverse that image. Right now the image is the government is a care taker of the nation and the opposition don’t give a flying you know what about the country. To tell you the truth; all COI drama is just that drama. Give a month; it will die like all the other dramas. Do we have a problem? Yes!!! But our problems are ours and we don’t need Ethiopia or the toothless UN to tell us what we do. The end of the story!!!!

  • saay7

    Selamat Step 1:

    Kemey kemey Step 1? That’s funny:) But: we are also in France and marveling at Logic enda Isaias that tries to take credit for something that has been getting perfected in Eritrea since the 1930s (bicycle racing) and avoid taking responsibility for things that happened exclusively during zemene Isaias (football players asking for asylum, pilots asking for asylum, music super stars asking for asylum.). The Eritrea-Ethiopia war was started by Baathists and the Eritrea-Yemen war was started by America. MehaKat ikum:)

    Now about the last 15 years. Well, you know, we are talking about shifting gears so we can make zla: a leap. And to do it in a way that is measurable and quantifiable. Not like your side which hates figures and numbers. Did you hear kbur president address to Sawa school graduates (the 28th?) He was talking about his gov is making zla (a leap) and then he got to the part where he was reading the percentage of students who didn’t get passing grades (that’s 60%) and he paused and said obviously this is a mistake and we will have it fixed. But if he read what his government reported last year, he would know the failure rate then was 80%. So, yeah, moving from 80% fail rate to 60% rate is a big zla; but when u have the big boss who hates numbers (except is there is a dollar sign in front of it) you get what we’ve got: a mess.

    So it appears the only thing PFDJ knows well is to organize. It doesn’t know what to do once it’s organized. You can celebrate that at the next organized festival 🙂

    saay

  • Mahmud Saleh

    Dear SAAY7
    Thanks, another excellent article. The assessment is as usual very sharp; and the recommendations are realistic. Ab lbna yeHdro.

  • Solomon Gezahegn

    Sir,
    Thanks for the suggestion as to how Eritreans should organize themselves so as to get a regime change, while the CoIE is doing its job. The issue is let Eritreans understand as to where their problem falls so as to organize, rally and mobilize and create a momentum that destabilizes the regime from within and without. The diaspora, be it regime supporter or opponent has to be the first target, the refugees’ centers could be other targets; the Embassies could be next. The people inside could be the next target. But such mobilization has to be done systematically and with the clear involvement of the opposition groups who have to lead.
    Rgds
    Gezahegn

  • haileTG

    Selamat saay,

    thank you for keeping the Geneva conversation going, you have put it in the right perspective as a potential success template for us is analyze further. I agree with all of what you envisage by way of emulating that feat for a total victory. When that illusive victory is achieved, we shall no longer be wearing any hats as opposition, Baathist, Jihadist, supporter… but we’ll all be restored back to our original identity, i.e. Eritreans.

    Your concept of the “standing committee” is a vital starting point on that path. To take the discussion further, I believe that we may benefit by going in more detail into the key attributes that need to be emulated to replicate the great “coordinating committee” of Geneva. I will list below some of those attributes, but I still haven’t figured out the actual motive (in a very specific sense) that will incentivize the whole operation to get into a surefire kick-start. Here follows the list of attributes that need to be reflected in the re-construct of Geneva II 🙂

    1 – Specific: The purpose of Geneva I was specific, i.e. to enable the success of CoIE. That is a sharply focused purpose specific undertaking. That needs to be catered for in Geneva II reconstruction

    2 – Measurable: The success criteria of Geneva II was measured in numbers that are needed to meet the specific purpose (be it witnesses, petitions, demo…). Geneva II to needs to have such measurable/quantifiable success criteria as per its set outcomes objectives.

    3 – Attainable: Geneva I have used various initiatives that enabled them to have a certain conception of what they expect to attain and how. That needs to be part of the Geneva II final victory mobilization.

    4 – ReLEVANT: The Geneva I plan of action was motivated by “assurances” that the UNHRC would take action if they play their part (i.e. the coordinating committee). A relevant end product must be identified (again in the most specific sense) in the Geneva II undertaking.

    5 – Time-bound: Geneva I has worked to “deadline” (as you mentioned it too). Such is also an important component of recreating that event as per template. Time frame would be a motivator in itself.

    I know the above template is easier said than done given the realities on the ground. However, Geneva I has demonstrated that if there is a will, a miracle can be done 🙂

    Regards

    • Bayan Nagash

      Selama Haile TG,

      I like the way in which you brought the business/marketing model of SMART as you inculcate it into the conception of Geneva Phase II. Keep on churning it as I am sure between you, Sal and many Awatawyan thinking heads you can come up with something big that can help lead us toward that promised Eritrean identity free of labels. Simply put, Eritrean without any other attachments as you eloquently captured it above.

      • saay7

        Selamat Bayan, Haile TG, Gezahegn and all:

        I know, Bayan, Haile TG went all Drucker on us:) I always suspected he was a pointy-head notwithstanding all his chegwar danga credentials: kabzom mhuran akal iyu zmesl… But seriously, I think we know what we have to do and people like Haile TG would be of immense help in helping us think more clearly on why we have to do it.

        Somewhere in that Ducker accronym should be one for assessment: after the celebrations, review what you have done and conduct a brutal gemgam of what worked, what didn’t work, what could have worked better. That’s from within. I was trying to make sure that there is no credit-hogging campaign and I tried to assiduously avoid mentioning individuals or organizations in the article. But from without, there has to be an objective, unbiased, reporters-eye look at it because we know that things are more likely to improve when there is a sense that they will be reported on.

        For example: are the number of testimonies and interviews presented by CoI enough given that we have 100 stories for every one reported? What could we have done better?

        For example: the chairman of CoIE reported in an interview that one thing they considered was having the testimonies streamed/video recorded, just like the CoI on North Korea, but in the end they decided that protecting the witnesses’s anonymity was important than the power of public testimony. Is that really his call to make? Is that our call to make?

        For example: after the demonstrations, the Government supporters were quoted in news pieces but I don’t remember seeing anyone from the opposition side quoted in news pieces. This is one of Ghezae Hagos’ long standing complaints: that we spend all our time talking to one another and hardly any time talking to the outside world and we need to cultivate more contacts. I can tell you that, as a recent entrant to Twitter, I was shocked to learn that the PFDJ is way ahead on that: they pretty much own the Eritrea hashtag and if you search “Eritrea”, all the top tweets are from PFDJ supporters. That can change in short order if we put our minds to it.

        Gezahegn, my view is that issues like mobilization of our people are too important to be left to opposition organzations and their timelines and should be conducted by a Steering Committee made up of all willing/able individuals and organizations. Such steering committee would reflect the priorities of the opposition organizations but would not be bound by their static timelines but its own dynamic timeline. If you want evidence for this, all you have to find out is “how were the demonstration in Israel and Addis Abeba organized? Was it organized by Bayto? By Alliance? None of the above?” And when you find out, don’t tell us as that may begin the subject I am trying to avoid: credit-hogging.

        saay

        • haileTG

          Merhaba saay,

          ግደፍ እባ ኣብታ ናይ ጨጓር ዳንጋ ማሕበረይ፡ ከምታ ዶክቶር ዓንዳይ ዝበላ “ደርባዊ ነብሰ-ቕትለት” ግበር ከይብሉኒ..haha

          You see saay, Geneva brought the whole controversy of who is supporter and who is opposition (at least how many of each there are) to an abrupt end. That event was one of the singular event in the history of PFDJ that they were defeated number vs number, skill vs skill, stamina vs stamina (remember that all the justice seekers were self motivated)… In guerrilla welfare, Geneva was the transition point from the hit and run stages to the ultimate positional welfare where the guerrilla forces have gained enough muscle and backbone to hold down locations and defend them indefinitely. PFDJ failed to match the RPA (real people’s army:) and was seen abandoning its forte (the part of the sword’s blade from the hilt to the middle). With that came a realization to all of us, that:

          1 – the opposition to PFDJ is ground swell

          2 – the opposition to PFDJ desperately lacks leaders/leadership;

          Your outline of job description (now and in the past) is spot on, fair and well judged. If you find some one, and you have them report for duty on Monday morning, I would hope my list would be their first duty that will await them on the desk the minute they roll up their sleeves and are ready to go:-)

          Even my friends dawitom and Ted (each from a different political side) can no longer throw the wild card “The Eritrean People” anymore:) Geneva was that beautiful and that disarming (all I have to do is just post one of the June 26 videos and say “here are my people, show me your people). Again the scary part is the leadership gap, and looked either way, it is too unpredictable for comfort.

          Regards

          PS: Thanks for the kind words.

          • saay7

            Selamat Hailat:

            You pose a big challenge with a job description for a servant leader. You and I had a, um, discussion about the leadership gap and I think I was emphasizing smarts (ability to see around corners) and you were emphasizing heart (ability to empathize with the dire straits our country is in.) Maybe it is all of the above or none of the above, if we take a look at the people who made Geneva, Israel, Ethiopia demonstrations work. What I know is that the PFDJ thinks it was a fluke (organized by Ethiopia and CIA) and we know it is not, that given the magnitude of the wrong that is inflicted on the People of Eritrea by the Government of Isaias Afwerki, the law of averages and natural law says that a potent movement shall emerge to end it.

            In “As Good As It Gets”, the misogynist character played by Jack Nicholson is asked “how do you write women so well?” He answers, “I think of a man, and I take away reason and accountability.”

            I think we should ask all the Eritrean women who have watched men make a mess of things, “how do you describe the next leader of Eritrea?” They might answer, “I think of Isaias Afwerki. I think of our opposition leaders. And I do the exact opposite of everything they have done.”

            saay

          • Ted

            Hi saay,Women! Where is the Great MS who came up with the “Truth Bound Society” with numero uno recommendation women has to lead the way. interesting point when we witnessed the pro-Gov Geneva comprise mostly mature men and Women in contrast to the opposition comprising mostly young adult men. We have not figure out why they do the things what they do. We speculated many things: coerced, “heartless”…… and the latest ‘some society believe they deserve authoritarian regime’. I believe you will be onto something if you can tap into the sensibility of the Eritrean women. They may make us wanna be a better opposing Eritreans.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THtv5VM5LSY

          • saay7

            Ahlen Ted:

            That’s an interesting construction: when the opposition attract older men, they are dismissed as has-been and washed up and when the PFDJ attracts older men and women, there is something we can learn from them? 🙂 I have always taken the position that people are not victims but make choices because they are moved by a cause. And while I appreciate the passion and devotion of the pro-PFDJ demonstrators, clearly they are in the wrong. And yes the easy dismissal of democracy (they use the word with a lot of scorn as if it is not the D in PFDJ), the admiration for Isaias’s authoritarian ways, the intense focus on the outside world as conspirators against Eritrea…all of it adds up to love of authoritarianism. Again this is not unique to Eritreans: a Canadian professor wrote a book entitled “The Authoritarians*” (his reference is right-wing authoritarians in U.S.) and it describes a lot of the value system of Isaiasists.

            saay

            * free book available online. Alnahda had a column about it

          • Ted

            Hi, Saay, thank you for the link.
            “And while I appreciate the passion and devotion of the pro-PFDJ demonstrators, clearly they are in the wrong.” That is the truth. For one reason or another they were there by their free will to oppose the COI report, not as MR. Mike COI Smith stated the Gov forced them to do so.
            Pro-Gov people or as you call them” Isaias and Isaiasists” could be wrong on many things;
            Are they wrong CIO is biased.
            Are they wrong US is unfair to Eritrea
            Are they wrong Weyane is their mortal enemy.
            Are they wrong post IA is doom and gloom
            Are they wrong oppositions are sellouts
            Are they wrong how Eritrea is portrayed by the world
            Are they wrong……many ….many..Are they wrong…
            How do we avoid packaging the half a society as one isaiasts box. We can leave it as is or we peel off layers of differences one by one which has made us stand on the opposite side. Talking the difference is the only way to be able to reach to the consensus to the question of , how do we go from here?.
            What is wrong is not defending the truth because one happen to be from opposition or Pro-Gov.

          • selam

            Dear Ted
            People who try to hide their weakness always go extra mile to pack people’s opinion under one name.
            Here is Mr.saay conversation.

            Saay.We can go live in a damn cave. Look, they are selfish people. You know that. And I don’t want you to go through that, so I’m willing to say screw them and we cut our losses.

            People like me : Really? What kind of life would that give us?

            Saay: Don’t bring logic into this conversation.” 

            It has been such unsecured personal lose to so many Eritreans because people , who we truly admire are not that much far reaching out people.

          • saay7

            Selamat Ted:

            I thought we were charter members of Mahmuday’s Truth-Bound Society?.

            1. Some (many? most?) of those who attend government-organized events do it under coercion. They are told “lomi zeyketete kem dewu zmote.” That if you don’t show up for this __________ (seminar,demonstration, fill in the bank) and if you don’t donate money for _____ (national defense, tree planting, orphans) you can’t really consider yourself an Eritrean. In 2001, in Washington DC, they passed a binding resolution on the G-15 by listening to a statement that was read to them. So, of course there is a lot of coercion going on.

            2. The wrong that the world commits on Eritrea pales in comparison to the wrong that the Isaias Afwerki government commits on Eritreans by multiples. Yet, the people that are clearly in the wrong, never find their voice to speak on behalf of the Eritrean people who are jailed, disappeared, tortured, murdered extra-judicially but they sure are very loud and colorful when defending Eritrea. In a nation that exiles its population by the tens of thousands, a nation that jails children and octogenarians, they find nothing to criticize of its governance.

            On can have all sorts of hesitations and trepeditation on what will become after the Isaias Afwerki regime and I wouldn’t call them wrong. But I call them wrong (morally) for turning a blind eye and deaf ear to the cries of their miserable compatriots. That doesn’t make them evil; it just makes them wrong.

            3. Isaiasism is a philosophy of “support Isaias whether he is right or wrong” and an Isaiasist is someone who is able to entertain any and every thought except that Isaias is unfit to govern the nation and should be removed from power. They are the ones who carry his pictures from 1974 and 2004.

            4. I don’t know where you get the claim that “half” of Eritreans support the Isaias Afwerki government. I think you and I agree that most Eritreans are silent in that they have reservations about the government and the opposition. But if you are going to present everyone who doesn’t vocally support the opposition as a supporter of the government, I believe you are mistaken and don’t have evidence for it.

            5. Assuming I accept your representation that those who were demonstrating in opposition to the CoIE report had actually read what it was saying, can you tell me what is that the CoI said that is biased? The CoI went over backwards to present the Isaias Afwerki government in the most positive light (it accept all its narrative about Eritrean history before and after it came to power) and the government still came out looking bad because it is bad. And this is only because of the tens of thousands of horrible stories, it captured only a fraction.

            6. Yes, the Eritrean opposition is fragment and leaderless. Guess who says that? The “biased” CoI.

            saay

          • Ted

            Hi Saay, The Great MS is ON “Beast Mode” after Geneva to lead the truth bound society, everyone is for his own, “falul”, of the society striking where the iron is hot:) I follow your initiative to get the opposition together except the part you said ” “don’t dissolve your organization; don’t merge; stay where you are: just send us someone we can work with.” I don’t know how it is going to work but it is our utmost HOPE the united front be insync selecting their weapon of choice:people power.
            i guess, you got me wrong that when i say”Are they wrong……..’it is not meant to be a fact but a rhetorical question.. But good answer regardless.
            One thing i don’t agree still is the Gov has no the power anymore to coerce people to do protesting as it has in the past. Just apprehensive PFDJ fans for one reason or another. Personaly, I undrestand that.

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Deat Ted

            My friends still can’t believe it, because I am so “shy” of media exposure. I really knew there was something wrong with the way my beloved organization was heading to early on; in fact as early as 1992; I did have my moments of “counselings” my share of getting the “dereQ aytKun/ don’t be stuborn” advices. My criticism of how the government (aka IA) took us into unavoidable and his subsequent disastrous mismanagement of the government; disastrous policies…the purge of politicians and journalists; all the crimes that now the world has come to know through COI; the exodus of our youth….everything was building until the tipping point which happened to be lampedussa. That’s when I said ” I have to break the silence.”

            Geneva was indeed rejuvenating. Because it showed us that part of what we thought was SILENT wasn’t in fact SILENT. WE WHERE JUST IN DIFFERENT WAVE LENGTHS. If you rememeber, my main complaint was similar to your (minus the PFDJ reformation). I was commenting on issues whose primacy was building a united force; owning our history; reexamining our approaches in a way that clicks with the SILENT MAJORIY…reorienting our efforts in ways they create synergy, and particularly, give the domestic force an imptus…

            Geneva was wonderful, because, new alliance are emerging. Now, either the existing political organizations will readjust their priority and realign themselves to the tempo of the new alliances lending them leadership and advises; or a totally new paradigm will take place, with its new leadership and sets of priorities. All in all, Geneva was wonderful. The victims spoke, COI was proven to be backed by Eritreans; what remains is, as you said in many of your comments, “How do we make it our business; how do we use it as a tool?”

            Am I acting like a beast since Geneva, the Great Ted? ayzereban!!!!

            Happy Eid alfaTr, my good friend. عيد الفطر المبارك

          • Ted

            Hi The great MS. Sorry my friend to make you think that way. “Beast Mode” is NFL lingo, meaning being in the zone, focused and determined. . I thought you knew Seahawks running back Marshawn Lynch “It’s really just a mindset,” he said. “The Beast Mode is just something that keeps it going.”

            http://www.nfl.com/videos/seattle-seahawks/0ap2000000147589/Marshawn-Lynch-goes-into-beast-mode

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Ahlan Ted
            Ah…this NFL thing! I actually watch it because the kids drag me from whatever I was doing at the moment; but I have come to appreciate the game. The lingo, well, my ten year old is still in his BFF contract and is generous to explain to me every move; I guess, it is because of his over exuberance that I miss the commentators.. The others, they have moved on to the adolescence stage, you know, they sort of do their own thing.
            I thing SGJ is the authority on NFL, or so I thought?

          • Abi

            Hi Mahmud
            You still didn’t get it . NFL is kind of sport where overweight people are considered sportsmen. They stop the game every ten seconds so that these fat men take a five minute rest.
            I call it bullfighting.
            I knew you were confused when you thought SGJ is an expert on this thing .
            Happy Eid alfaTar for you and all the Muslim brothers and sisters.

          • Ted

            Hi the Great MS, Happy Eid AlfaTir. One father i know said, Having kids in America is 18 yrs lease. Enjoy them while it last at least with those young ones who still think you are cool dad.

          • saay7

            Ted I forgot…here are my kinda women:)

          • Ted

            Dear Saay, now we have our tummy full after Romadan, let’s talk about the Truth bound society. All Eritrean women are our kinda women including all the Fosia,the Elsa and the Askals……We can exploit their natural propensity for stability and peace for our advantage. We don’t need studies to tell us women are more trustworthy, reconciliatory and compassionate. Eritrea has well versed women from both side of the isle to do the job. It can be done one group reaching out to the other in good faith to get the ball rolling. Until we men get our act together lets encourage our women to take charge. With out the doubt, they will do us good.

          • saay7

            Hey Ted

            Sure buddy! I think Peace is back and we can now ask Chairman Mahmud to convene the meeting. (I hope he doesn’t send us “hijiwin tigageyu alekhum” letter, forcing us to send an Open Letter to all Awatistas.

            Many moons ago, I asked Mehret Gebreyesus (life long EPLFer, then part of the central committee of EDP) to step forward because we are long overdue for female leadership. And she told me “whatever made you think I would want to do that?” She has since done something very sensible for her which is to pursue her passion and politics has little to do with it.

            So, before we volunteer people, men or women, let’s make sure they are interested:)

            Askalu? Really? 🙂

            saay

  • T..T.

    Hi all,

    I do agree that the great Geneva achievements of June 26 can be used to:

    -Impact the opposition leaders to create conducive climate for better and continued cooperation with all justice seekers,

    -Impact every Eritrean website to come up with better strategies of becoming the voice of the voiceless,

    -Impact every Eritrean mother to support the youth movement in its journey of reclaiming the right to life, liberty and better education as well as participation in future politics and governance, and

    -Impact every Eritrean in joining hands to contribute positive experiences in the fight against the tyranny by supporting strategies focused on gathering motivations and building trust like those of Geneva’s June 26.

  • Nitricc

    HI Tes:

    I have been reading and observing you for a while and noticed your erratic behavior reminded me something I went though. if you don’t mind; Let me share a little personal background story. When I was in high school; one winter weekend; I was at home with my parents. We all are at the house, out side is snowing and simply whiteout and nowhere to go. I was restless and jaded. I was moving from one sit to the other seeking the attention of my parents. what worked onthe past was that when I act that way; I get the attention of my parents and they will ask me “ what is the matter” and this time around; I was expecting the same attention with the same usual inquiry that “ what is the matter with you” and I will say I am bored and they will say, okay; you can play your video game; that was my expectation and that is how it worked on the past. Well, lucky me, my wish came true and my dad said “ are you alright?” I say yes I am okay but I am bored. He looked at me and said, “so you are bored huh?” I nudge my head to affirm. He got up and walked to the book’s shelf and started picking the books from the shelf and started saying “ did you read this” ” did you read this” after the first few books; I stopped answering “no”; he pulled every book from the shelf and he throw it in the ground. And when his last book placing on the ground, his words were, “you tell me you are bored when you read a few of them.” And he went back to his sit.
    I was Stunned!!! to no end;I did not see it coming. I started picking the books up and placing them them on the book’s shelf.
    The last book I picked; instead of placing it on the bookshelf; i looked at it. a small paper back book. I took it with me and went my bedroom just to appease the old man. once i got to my room started reading it. The book I was reading? Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance by Robert Pirsig. The rest was all in; I was hooked on philosophy and everything but philosophy. And here I am the first one to tell you the risk of philosophy. Perhaps I let you what professor Sandle once told me; about the personal risks of philosophy. the reason am sharing this with you is that your concept of Newtonian and your obsession with philosophy it might ruin you. As the good prof will tell you; in moderation philosophy is beautiful but when you label people KKK and you think that was a Newtonian take down; i see the problem. please take your time and listen to the clip.
    with respect.

    http://www.tubechop.com/watch/6423912

    • tes

      Dear Nitricc,

      This piece of advice has two merits:

      1. It is excellent when it is coming from Nitricc
      2. It is nothing when it talks on philosophy.

      Let me tell you this:

      My way is to combine eastern and wastern philosophy in one and create modern humanity. Eastern philosophy(more of spiritual guidance and nothingness) without Western philosophy (materialiastic and everythingness) is void. The vise versa holds also true. The world has lived in these two extremes for centuries. Now we need to change that course.

      If you think in this way then, philosophy builds life not does it ruins. Therefore go beyond Zen and explore contemporary philosophy of humanity. I am all for humanity. If I have any trace of philosophy, it is all towards human highness.

      tes

  • Hayat Adem

    Hi Saay,
    This kind of forward looking pointers help well. You have explained well the three actors and their anticipated acts hereafter. It is possible the field can even grow more dynamic than that in the mean time.

  • Tewelde G/mariam

    I support for strong opposition of intellectual and patriotic stature with an unimpeachable unity around the Sovereignty and Territorial integrity of Eritrea, and around the ratified Constitution of 1997.

    Of course, such an organization presupposes the melting down of the existing fragmented , retrogressive , ineffective, subservient etc.multiplicity of mini organizations.

    Such all round strong patriotic organization performs two tasks simultaneously: the immediate removal of isaias afewerki and constructing the necessary political infrastructure to forestall woyane intereference and the sad experience Somalia has been going through since the aftermath of the fall of Siad Barre.

    Such strong and united organization will help our people to see light at the end of tunnel and to whip themselves up to end the reign of terror from within.

    Because of our strategic location , on the busy Red Sea Coast, the UN will also be inspired by the organization and therefore, it will probably extend its help towards the dual goal.

  • selam

    Dear saay
    It is nice that you are pushing for more formidable opposition , I hope they (opposition leaders) read this and think twice. As you know UN is just doing their job and they never will think in the interest of the Eritrean people .If people like you are expecting UN to give justice to the Eritrean people , I do hope the Eritrean people rise to the situation and reject UN . The Eritrean people have said and done more for the position who are married to blame game and no work .this time the people has said enough is enough to this falacy of weyane conferences .Geneva must be a turning point to these Eshi goytaye and some evil groups to come to their senses . Again lets call them to walk the talk and make something for their people. Still the Eritrean people are waiting the solution from their own sons and daughters not from UN or weyane help.

  • Nitricc

    Hi SAAY; good read. it sounds Your strategy is Hope and Hope is never good strategy. However you were unfair when you said
    “Since the government of Isaias Afwerki was never going to let CoI into Eritrea”
    How can you blame the government for not letting them in? last time the UN was in Eritrea; they were reviling the statutes of the Eritrean air force; while the country is in a could of war with Ethiopia. not fair SAAY.

    • saay7

      Hey Nitriccay: Hope is a great strategy if your cousin is named after it. Hope, Grace are good things. But seriously, the strategy is to create a united front. The hope is on our ability to execute it, not the strategy.

      On why CoI won’t be allowed in Eritrea. There are two possible reasons: (a) because if they are allowed in, they will ask to visit all the prisons, interview all the prison wardens, the prisoners and their families; (b) they will go in as human rights investigators but they will be spies and endanger Eritrea’s national security.

      Hmmm. I know you are going with (b) here, but I am going with (a.) The reason is that when you have prison wardens, pilots, Isaias’s bodyguards, mid-level military officers, intelligence officers…the whole country leaving the country and its first stop is Ethiopia and its intelligence officers, you got no national secrets to speak of my friend. So, (a), final answer.

      saay

      • Bayan Nagash

        Dear Sal,

        You hit the nail, dare I say, on Nitricc’s head – I doubt he would feel it though – it will just bounce right back and he will come back at you with equally preposterous preposition. Pleas somebody tell Nitricc what’s enumerated below are not a list of schools nor of hospitals nor are they gyms, these are “Prison Industrial Complex” a la srAt PFDJ:

        Talk about “Prison Industrial Complex”. It is very difficult to fathom for a tiny nation such as Eritrea to feel the need for such massive incarcerations centers, torture chambers, dungeons,.I am getting nauseated just trying to wrap my head around this. Thank you Ambassador Andebrhan for availing this massive list.

        This needs to be widely publicized. The impact of such a list when seen in the written form is just staggering to watch.

        Source: Copied and pasted from Ambassador Andebrhan W Giorgis’s FB.

        July 9 at 3:49am ·
        ኣብ ኤርትራ ዘለዋ ቤት ማእሰርቲን ቁጽረን 1. ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 11
        2. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 12
        3. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 13
        4. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 16
        5. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 17
        6. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 18
        7. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 19
        8. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 21
        9. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 22
        10. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 23
        11. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 27
        12. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 31
        13. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 33
        14. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 35
        15. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 36
        16. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 37
        17. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 38
        18. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 42
        19. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 46
        20. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 47
        21. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 49
        22. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 57
        23. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 58
        24. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 84
        25. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ስሪሒት ዞባ 1
        26. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ስሪሒት ዞባ 2
        27. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ስሪሒት ዞባ 3
        28. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ስሪሒት ዞባ 4
        29. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ስሪሒት ዞባ 5
        30. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ስሪሒት ዞባ 6
        31. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ምክትታል ዶባት 01
        32. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ምክትታል ዶባት 36
        33. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ምክትታል ዶባት 101
        34. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ምክትታል ዶባት ቸንቶ
        35. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ምክትታል ዶባት እንዳ ጥቦት 36. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ገበን ወንጀል መርመራ
        37. መደበር ፖሊስ አጂፕ
        38. ቤት ማእሰርቲ አጂፕ
        39. ቤት ማእሰርቲ አጂፕ 12 አስመራ
        40. 1 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ
        41. 2 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ
        42. 3 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ
        43. 4 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ
        44. 5 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ
        45. 6 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ
        46. 7 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ
        47. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ጎዳይፍ 4
        48. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ጎዳይፍ 22
        49. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ጸጸራት
        50. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሰምበል
        51. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሰምበል ቁጽሪ 27
        52. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ትራክቢ 1
        53. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ትራክቢ 2
        54. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሓዝሓዝ
        55. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ፎርቶ
        56. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ትሕቲ ዕድመ ኮሞሳርያቶ
        57. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓዲ ኣበይቶ
        58. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓዲ ኣበይቶ 01
        59. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓዲ ኣበይቶ 21
        60. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓዲ ኣበይቶ 24
        61. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓዲ ኣበይቶ 61
        62. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓዲ ኣበይቶ 71
        63. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓዲ ኣበይቶ ሊብያ
        64. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ማይ ተመናይ 4
        65. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ማይ ተመናይ 41
        66. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ማይ ተመናይ 104
        67. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ገዛ ባንዳ ቁጽሪ 33
        68. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ብጸሊም ገዛባንዳ
        69. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣኽርያ ማይ ድምነት
        70. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣኽርያ ቁጽሪ 13
        71. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እንዳ ራእሲ
        72. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዲቢዚቶ
        73. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ገዛ ኸኒሻ 08
        74. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሜዳ ባሕቲ መስከረም
        75. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኮብለልቲ ማይ – ጭሆት
        76. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እንዳ መሬንጊ
        77. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሲነማ ሓማሴን
        78. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እንዳ ሰዓል
        79. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ቦርቦሬላ
        80. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ቦርቦሬላ ቁጽሪ 12
        81. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እንዳ ቖርቆስ
        82. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኪዳነ ምህረት ቤተ ገርግሽ 83. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ማይ ስርዋ
        84. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ማይ ስርዋ ድብኦ
        85. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ድርፎ 23
        86. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ድርፎ 66
        87. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እንዳ ጽዖት ጉርዒ
        88. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ቁሸት ባዶ
        89. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ቁሸት ቁጽሪ 07
        90. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ቁሸት ቁጽሪ 111
        91. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ጋላ ነፍሒ
        92. ቤት ማእሰርቲ በሪኽ
        93. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እንዳ ፍላንሳ
        94. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እንዳ ድጓና
        95. ቤት ማእሰርቲ በለዛ ምክልኻል
        96. ቤት ማእሰርቲ በለዛ መኮንናት
        97. ቤት ማእሰርቲ በለዛ 2
        98. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ሰረጀቓ
        99. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሰረጀቓ
        100. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ነፋሲት
        101. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እምባትካላ
        102. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እምባትካላ ጡልቁያት
        103. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እምባትካላ 6
        104. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ እምባትካላ 105. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ደንጎሎ
        106. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ደንጎሎ ጸባብ
        107. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ደንጎሎ ማይ
        108. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ደንጎሎ ተጠላቒና
        109. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ጊንዳዕ
        110. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ጊንዳዕ
        111. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ዕዳጋ
        112. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ውሽጢ ባጽዕ 113. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 1 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ውሽጢ ባጽዕ 114. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 2 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ውሽጢ ባጽዕ 115. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ነፋሲት – 116. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ውሽጢ ባጽዕ
        117. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ግቢ ባጽዕ
        118. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ባሕርያ (ባጽዕ)
        119. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኹትምያ (ባጽዕ)
        120. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣጂፕ 1 ባጽዕ
        121. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዳህላክ ማልታ
        122. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዳህላክ ስግረ ዶብ
        123. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዳህላክ ከይሳዕረረ
        124. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዳህላክ 4
        125. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ናኹራ
        126. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ናኹራ 2
        127. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ፍልፍል
        128. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ፊሸ ምራራ
        129. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ፊሸ መሮር
        130. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ፊሸ ባሕሪ
        131. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ፊሸ ጽልሚ
        132. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዒራ – ዒሮ
        133. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዒራ – ዒሮ 38
        134. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዒራ – ዒሮ 44
        135. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ግላስ
        136. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ግላስ 5
        137. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ገልዓሎ ባሶ
        138. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ገልዓሎ ኣልቶ
        139. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ገልዓሎ ሊብያ
        140. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ገልዓሎ ስግረ ዶብ
        141. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ገልዓሎ 90
        142. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዊዓ
        143. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዊዓ በርቂ
        145. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዊዓ ባሶ ዊዓ
        146. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እንዳ ኣሚር
        147. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መትከል አብየት
        148. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ባቖስ ጁባ
        149. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ባቖስ ካርታ
        150. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ረሀይ 67
        151. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ረሀይ 98
        152. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዛራ እንዳ ወርቂ
        153. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዛራ እንዳ 1
        154. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዛራ እንዳ 4
        155. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዛራ እንዳ 17
        156. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሞሶዲብ
        157. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኼሩ
        158. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣለቡ
        159. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መዓስከር ሳዋ
        160. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሳዋ 98
        161. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሳዋ 5 ይ ክፍለ ሰራዊት
        162. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሳዋ እንዳ ስላሴ
        163. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሳዋ እንዳ ጴንጤ
        164. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሳዋ እንዳ ጅሆቫ
        165. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሳዋ እንዳ ጡልቁያት
        166. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሳዋ እንዳ ፈለስቲ
        167. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሳዋ እንዳ ዕሩባት
        168. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሳዋ እንዳ ስግረ ዶብ
        169. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሳዋ እንዳ ከንቶ
        170. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሳዋ ኮሪደር
        171. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሳዋ እንዳ ቀሺ
        172. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሳዋ እንዳ ሸኽ
        173. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሳዋ እንዳ ዓበ
        174. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሳዋ እንዳ ጽግዕ
        175. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዳስየ
        176. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዳስየ 2 177. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዳስየ 4 178. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መዕጥር
        179. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መዕጥር 21
        180. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መዕጥር 22
        181. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኹላላ
        182. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓዳይት 5 ይ ጋንታ
        183. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣፍ – ሂምቦል 11
        184. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣፍ – ሂምቦል 12
        185. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣፍ – ሂምቦል 104
        186. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ኦምሓጀር 187. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 1 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ኦምሓጀር 189. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 2 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ኦምሓጀር 190. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኦምሓጀር
        191. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ጎልጅ
        192. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ጎልጅ
        193. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ጎልጅ ጥዩሳት
        194. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ኣቑርደት 195. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 1 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ኣቑርደት 196. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 2 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ኣቑርደት 197. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣቑርደት
        198. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ባረንቱ
        199. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ባረንቱ
        200. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ባረንቱ (ፕሪማ ካንትሪ) 201. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ባረንቱ እንዳ ዳጋ
        202. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ባረንቱ (ፎርቶ)
        203. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ተሰነይ
        204. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 1 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ተሰነይ 205. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 2 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ተሰነይ 206. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሰነይ ፍጮ
        207. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሰነይ ስግረ ዶብ
        208. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣንደርሰን
        209. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣንደርሰን 2
        210. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣንደርሰን ስግረ ዶብ
        211. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣንደርሰን ከይሳዕረረ 212. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣንደርሰን 13
        213. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣንደርሰን ኣስኮብላይ 214. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣንደርሰን እንዳ ሄዋን 215. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣንደርሰን እንዳ ዓብደላ 216. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣንደርሰን እንዳ ጀሃድ 217. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣንደርሰን እንዳ ጀሃድ 27 218. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ፎርቶ
        219. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እንዳ ጆሜትራ
        220. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እንዳ ኣልማዝ
        221. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እንዳ ለምለም
        222. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እንዳ ቐንጠብ
        223. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ድባርዋ
        224. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 1 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ድባርዋ 225. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ድባርዋ እንዳ ምኪኤል
        226. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ መንደፈራ 227. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 1 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ መንደፈራ 228. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 2 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ መንደፈራ 229. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መንደፈራ
        230. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መንደፈራ ፎርቶ
        231. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መንደፈራ እንዳ ክፍለ – ሰራዊት 232. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ዓዲ – ዃላ 233. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 1 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ዓዲ – ዃላ 234. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓዲ – ዃላ
        235. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ድጓና ዓዲ – ዃላ
        236. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓዲ – ዃላ ሕልፈት
        237. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ እንዳ ገርግስ 238. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እንዳ ገርግስ
        239. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ቆሓይን
        240. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ቆሓይን
        241. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሰም ዓሰም
        242. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ደቀ – ምሓረ 243. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ደቀ – ምሓረ
        244. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ካራቢኔሪ ደቀ – ምሓረ
        245. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓላ
        246. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓላ ድሙቕ
        247. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓላ ጋዴን
        248. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓላ ኹሉል
        249. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓላ ጎላጉል
        250. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓላ ላዕላይ
        251. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓላ ታሕታይ
        252. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓላ ጸዳፍ
        253. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓዲ ሮሶ
        254. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓዲ ሮሶ እንዳ ጡሕና
        255. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓዲ ሮሶ እንዳ ታዕሊም
        256. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓዲ ሮሶ እንዳ ተማኑ
        257. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓዲ ሮሶ እንዳ ወዲ ባሻይ 258. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓዲ ሮሶ እንዳ ዝንህላል 259. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓዲ ሮሶ እናህባይ
        260. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓዲ ሮሶ እንዳ ኩቡኩብ
        261. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ባዚት
        262. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ባዚት 1
        263. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ባዚት ሰልሚ
        264. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ባዚት ጉርዒ
        265. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ባዚት በሪኽ
        266. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ባዚት ክቢ
        267. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ሰገነይቲ 268. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሰገነይቲ
        269. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ድግሳ
        270. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ጾሮና
        271. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ጾሮና
        272. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ስግረ – ዶብ ጾሮና
        273. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ዓድ – ቐይሕ 274. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 1 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ዓዲ – ቐይሕ 275. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 2 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ዓዲ – ቐይሕ 276. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓዲ – ቐይሕ
        277. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ስንዓፈ
        278. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሰንዓፈ
        279. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ስግረ – ዶብ ሰንዓፈ
        280. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣለውያ
        281. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሚዔ
        282. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ኣፍዓበት 283. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 1 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ኣፍዓበት 284. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 2 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ኣፍዓበት 285. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣፍዓበት
        286. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ናቕፋ
        287. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 1 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ናቕፋ 288. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 2 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ናቕፋ 289. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ናቕፋ እንዳ ኽሻ
        290. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ናቕፋ እንዳ 17
        291. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ናቕፋ እንዳ ማሞ
        292. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ስዋራ 2
        293. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ስዋራ 4
        294. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ረሀይ 67
        295. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ረሀይ 98
        296. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ጥሩቕ – ሩቕ
        297. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሕሽክብ 9
        298. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሕሽክብ 14
        299. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሕሽክብ ባረ
        300. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሓስመት
        301. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሓስመት ጨው
        302. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ማርሳ ጉልቡብ
        303. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሓሊበት አስኮብላይ
        304. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሓሊበት 8
        305. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሓሊበት 18
        306. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ማህሚመት ከይሳዕረረ
        307. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እንዳ ጁባ 12
        308. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እንዳ ሓነቕቲ
        309. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ፋሕ 09
        310. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ፋሕ እንዳ ናይብ
        311. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓራግ 14
        312. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓራግ 21
        313. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓራግ እንዳ ምንቕቓሕ
        314. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሓሽከርበብ 1
        315. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ወጀባ እንዳ 17
        316. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሰበርቀጠ
        317. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዒላ – ባቡ
        318. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ብሊቓት እንዳ ሻምበል ባሻ 319. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ብሊቓት 19
        320. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዒታሮ
        321. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መንካዕ ቀትሪ
        322. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መንካዕ ለይቲ
        323. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እንዳ ዓጃውጅ 2
        324. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ጠብሕ
        325. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ጠብሕ ከንቶ
        326. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እንዳ ኸበሮ
        327. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እንዳ ሓለዋ
        328. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ምድሪ – ዌት
        329. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እግሪ ለምለም
        330. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኮብለልቲ 1
        331. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ጢዖ
        332. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዕዲ
        333. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ፋጊ – ሚራሕ
        334. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዳምሒና
        335. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ካሪቦስ
        336. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሲብሶራን
        337. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሳፌሪን
        338. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ክሌማ
        339. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ዓሰብ
        340. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 1 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ዓሰብ 341. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 2 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ዓሰብ 342. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓሰብ ተሃድሶ
        343. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓሰብ
        344. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እንዳ ጫት ዓሰብ
        345. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ – ሰራዊት ዓሰብ 346. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሲሞቲ
        347. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ሓጋዝ
        348. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሓጋዝ
        349. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሓጋዝ 5 ይ መስርዕ
        350. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ዒላ – በርዒድ 351. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዒላ – በርዒድ
        352. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዒላ – በርዒድ 44
        353. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ግዝግዛ
        354. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ግዝግዛ ጡልቁያት
        355. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ከረን
        356. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 1 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ከረን 357. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 2 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ከረን 358. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 3 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ከረን 359. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ከረን
        360. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ፎርቶ ከረን
        361. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኩቡኩብ 24

        • saay7

          Selamat Bayan:

          An Awatista called the PFDJ modus operandi that of improvisation. They just make it up as they go. Consider this: the much ballyhood Eritrea: Criminal Procedure Code is finally out. I am interested because, like almost every Eritrean, I have immediate family members in jail since December 2012, in one of the prisons you listed (or maybe in others that we don’t know about.) So, Article 191 says that we have the Right of Habeas Corpus. This is the precise language:

          “Every person arrested or detained prior to trial shall have the right to petition any court for his release on the grounds that his arrest or detention is without due process in violation of the laws and Constitution of Eritrea. Such petition may be filed by the arrested person, his counsel, a relative or any other interested person acting on behalf of the arrested person.”

          Now, notice that we do not have a Constitution of Eritrea and the last authority on the subject (that is to say the last person who was quoted publicly on it) was Ambassador Gerahtu who said it should be ready in 3-4 years. So they have a Criminal Code that is dependent on a constitution that doesn’t exist. This is Improv Government.

          http://www.refworld.org/docid/55a51de04.html

          Usually, I sent a tweet to my favorite government employee, Ambassador Estifanos because he says things that are, even by PFDJ standards, crazy (he claimed that Baathists instigated the Eritrea-Ethiopia conflict of 1998), but he had blocked me because… he was on the losing end of the argument. I had to send it to Girma Asmerom. He will read it when he is done giving himself hickeys.

          You have to pinch yourself regularly to remind yourself that these are in charge of a country.

          saay

          • Saleh Johar

            Saay,
            That is hillarious! He actually accused the Baathists of instigated the 1998 border war? I can’t believe that. But then, I heard Saddam Hussein was living in his villa in Badme and the Americans caught him in a hole underneath the villa. Who would have known!

          • saay7

            Hey SGJ:

            I call it The Estifanos Chronicles. Ambassador Estifanos, as you know, was a man who used to talk about how Isaias Afwerki destroyed menkaE, very opinionated man and, consequently, he was frozen in 1997. He was rehabilitated and Isaias said, “where can I send this guy that is literally on the opposite corner of Eritrea” and he sent him to Japan. Then, the ambassador discovered Twitter and now he is our ambassador to the State of Twitterstan.

            It is Ramadan afternoon….Read our exchanges in sequence: I think they are funny. At some point, I told him that the Saudi leaks just revealed his name and sent him a random wikileaks of Isaias drunk at the Chinese Embassy in Eritrea. Anyway, his latest discovery is that “Baathists” (I am one, apparently; and so is Abdella Jaber, and so is Ali Abdu and, most likely, you are one) as a substitute for “jihadist.” And, yeah, it turns out the Baathists were responsible for the ELF-EPLF civil war and the Badme War.

            Yep. He is an ambassador. Really.

            saay

          • selam

            Dear saay
            Even though I followed some of your reply , I find some which are new to me , thanks for the tweet post.

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Salam SAAY

            Are you sure this is the ambassador? If so, it only shows how low we have gone represented by these types of people.

            ሃገረይ ሕረሲ ብተሎ

            ክብርኺ ክሕሎ
            Awatistas: you know that I don’t like cussing, but this man is just ረሳሕ። It is a disgrace that we are represented by his ilk.
            Here is AAA’s ሃገረይ ሕረሲ, sung to talk Eritrea into ending its perpetual pregnancy crisis. In Tigrigna, Hiresi means give birth, get over with a crisis.

            http://www.tubechop.com/chop/aMsDk76dZfs

          • Bayan Nagash

            Selam Mahmud & Sal,

            The brilliance to Sal rests in his ability to calmly show us the gutters from which these diplomats emanate from. The ability to bring out the real personality behind the facade, the cloak, the garb that these officials use when they are in their three piece suits can seem elusive in that other officials may think they are dealing with human beings and not riffraff that they truly are. Thank you Sal for the ingenuous way in which you brought the rascal to show his true colors.

            And, now Mahmud, if this imbecilic official were to watch Ahmed, the artist and the two individuals who wrote the lyrics, namely, Daniel R. & Amnuel E., well his readily available response would be the Baath & Tigray collaborating to destabilize Eritrea.

            Thanks Mahmud, these are the kind of gems that artists can bring to bear through collaborative efforts to raise awareness where ever they are in the world.

          • Tewelde G/mariam

            Isaias afewerki speaks in irony which many Eritreans take literary. For example, when he calls some people, woyane footsoldiers, his naive supporters and foes will take it as is! the former will repeat it to please him, and the latter will resent it. But him loves those who resent him because they are unwittingly helping to advance his hidden agenda, and conversely, he hates those love him because they love him for the wrong reason, they think he is working for Eritrea. And what should all Eritreans know? Woyane is isaias and isaias is woyane. The truth is, we have been fooled by these con artists. The quicker we rectify our folly the better chance we have to save our country.

            The 100,000 Eritrean and Ethiopian youngsters who died in the 1998 fraudulent war were all sacrificial lambs for the hidden agenda. Therefore, the war must no more be taken as objective evidence their enmity all was theatrical , make- belief.

          • Nitricc

            Hi SAAY; i think some one pretending to be this guy. i refused to believe some one from the government body will interact this way. however; starts the conversation from his side. did you insatiate it? what did say to him to respond you the way he did?

          • saay7

            Hi Nitricc:

            You don’t have to take my word for it. You can go to Twitter and search his handle @ambassadorstiff.

            The discussion was initiated by him. Here’s why I have bad news for you: this is exactly how the entire PFDJ hierarchy talk—behind closed doors. The difference with Ambassador Stifanos is that he had always been a loose canon and he says publicly what our “government” says privately. A fish begins to rot at the head. And when you have the head of State calling his own destitute youth “leHasti biyati” then it is leading by bad example. That’s why the whole culture is vulgar and aggressive and only the exceptional have overcome this and remain gentle and humble.

            saay

          • Nitricc

            Hey SAAY; well, i don’t know what to say. wow! there is no choice but to fix this thing. i am shocked. it on way for a fanatic to say this things but for government official?

          • Pass the salt

            SAAY,
            This is simply shocking! I thought Ambassador Girma was the worst, but this Estifanos is sicker.
            Aye Isaias wedini. You made disappear Eritrea’s brightest leaders and we are left with people that can not qualify to look after cattles, let alone to represent us abroad. There is Eritrea’s illness, right there!!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear Saay,
            Isn’t Saleh Gadi’s characterization “skunis” imply to the whole circle pfdj regime and their culture. If so no surprise the way he was tweeting. It is sad the Eritrean people to be represented by these gang and their culture in the international stage. That is way the dismantlement of their institution is vital to heal our people and regain our status and dignity.

            Regards,
            Amanuel. Hidrat

          • tes

            Dear saay7,

            I won’t be surprised by the followers of “Nihnan Elamanan” if they reacted in this way. The good thing is, this guy is so open and I found in him humble.

            Well, this must come to the forefront titled by “A chat with Twitterian Ambassador”. Everything PFDJ believes and ruled by is here in this conversation.

            I thank you.

            tes

          • Berhe Y

            Dear saay,

            I am sorry you have to put up with this kind of insults. But if there is any reason why this group called PFDJ and their ideals needs to be buried down under, there is no better example than this.

            It is really sad that the only thing they perfected in the past 24 years is how to build prisons. We hear there are over 10,000 political prisoners in Eritrea and based on this list (361) that means there are less than 30 people per prison which is really small number. The numbers must be staggering…..

            BY

          • Semere Andom

            Sal and BY:

            When people are shocked about what PFDJ members have said or done, I always roll my eyes at their shock. But this one, I have to verify if this was really the ambassador talking. I never heard of him, but I am shocked and he displays the quintessentially PFDJ, it is maniacal

          • Bayan Nagash

            Selam Sal,

            I gotta tell you this, my daughter knows the game that we played when we were children called nora msQora msQer msQer gundi, gundi senadi, sena sena lemi…you get the idea, and she never asks what the words mean, but she enjoys it for its rhyming scheme I suppose. The penal code of srAt PFDJ is nothing more than that: arbitrary with no rhyme or reason.

            Some dictators, in that arbitrariness of their rule do show some grace, and would release prisoners on, say, a month of Ramadan to show some compassion…not with our homegrown and home-bred one. My hope with that kind of wish is, of course, that Amm Younis could’ve found such a grace on the month of Ramadan and your niece whose only crime is that she happened to be a daughter of a father that srAt PFDJ was going after…nothing more arbitrary than that!

            *Beyan Negash*

          • tes

            Dear saay7,

            It is a hand-out prepared by college lecturers. When they prepared the lecture notes, they were referring some western constitution.

            The good thing about this code is that, “it is already on implementation”. Haha, this is funny. W/ro Fowzya will go mad after this. I can see her nagging.

            I thank you again for exposing the “nothingness” of the codes distributed in urgency.

            tes

        • አዲስ

          Hi Bayan,

          Is this real?

          Thanks,
          Addis

          • Bayan Nagash

            Hello Addis,

            I know, it is difficult to conceive, fathom, or wrap one’s head around it, but I trust the source, former Ambassador Andebrhan posted it on his FB, if anyone knows srAt PFDJ at a deeper level, it is him. He left his Harvard educational career to join the EPLF and subsequently served the country after independence in different important capacities. He abandoned the regime only few years ago.

          • አዲስ

            Bayan,

            Astonishing. Is there any estimate on how many people are imprisoned in these prisons? in another word in Eritrea in total?

            Thanks,
            Addis

          • Bayan Nagash

            Selam Addis,

            Honestly, I would not even begin to guess. Sal, will probably have the best estimate on that. It might even be on the 484 pages CoIE report that I have yet to read.

            However, what would be interesting also is to find a comparative list of how many schools were build since PFDJ took power and how many hospitals, and the like…

            The name they give to these prisons is quite revealing in that there is no category left uncovered. There is a jail for elderly..for shekhs…for aQshishti, etc.

            171. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሳዋ እንዳ ቀሺ 172. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሳዋ እንዳ ሸኽ
            173. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሳዋ እንዳ ዓበ
            174. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሳዋ እንዳ ጽግዕ
            175. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዳስየ

            With all conceivable categories covered, there is essentially some in every sector of the population finding their way to this elaborate prison system.

          • አዲስ

            Bayan,

            This is truly sad. What keeps my hope high is, the days of DIA are really numbered now that the people of Eritrea in and outside of the country are in agreement of what a truly evil system he created.

            Thanks for the info Bayan.

            Addis

        • Nitricc

          Hey Beyan; what is up? i thought there is no free press and there is no way knowing what is going on inside Eritrea? lol, come on my man; you are better than this lol. thanks for the joke. i did not know that you were comedian. at least with one story. you can not say that Eritrea is a closed and isolated nation and in the same time come up extremely detailed information. does it make sense to you?

          • Bayan Nagash

            Hello Nitricc,

            How about me taking the fifth on this one…be amariNa ‘yemmai selachew’ Nitricc b tigrinya dimma Nitricc eti zeiHllelo… Or on a second thought let me just say this: corrupted system – closed or not – finds cash too tempting to contain, thusly, divulges any of its secrets for cash…is that palatable my friend?

          • Nitricc

            Hey Beyan; the truth should be our destination. many people think that i am defending the PFDJ; well i do; but only when i sense moral-desert. we have to look after the truth not after the hype or what what news we agree with and satisfies our political believe. i stand for what is the truth and what benefits Eritrea. the truth is, if we declare that Eritrea is a close nation then we should not accept any detailed news that comes out of Eritrea. close is close. let;s stick to it. so, when what is the truth and defending it; i will never let up. i see things from the vail of ignorance.

          • Tewelde G/mariam

            You are obnoxious, evasive like your master , isaias afewerki, playineg with semantics and not substance. Grow up, grapple with the fast deteriorating situation of our country and join hands with other patriotic Eritreans to find the remedy.

            When you wrote, “……if we declare that Eritrea is a close nation then we should not accept any detailed news that comes out of Eritrea.close is close. Let’s stick to….”

            This of course is idiotic because when people say , close nation, they do not mean in absolute sense but in relative sense. There is no therefore any contradiction with such expression. On the contrary, you are the one uttering contradiction when you professed to be the arbiter of Truth while at the same you are using semantics to conceal the truth in blind defense of the indefensible criminal.

            By the way, no human being can talk of a nation closed in the absolute sense because it cannot exist at all.

        • Tewelde G/mariam

          It is mind boggling, and when it is all over, the shock won’t be any less than the gruesome human tragedy the Nazis’ left behind in the wake of their defeat. The Nazis’ were exterminating the Jews hiding behind euphemism of ” Final Solution of the Jews”. As they paraded them to the Gas Chamber, they routinely handed them soaps and shugomano as if they were going to take shower. This was of course intended to gain their cooperation of their victims through the art of deception. Isaias afewerki is practically doing the same thing on our people..

          To the Concentration Camps where he systematically subject our young population to psychological and physical humiliations , he calls it National Service. And when the young run a way, he denigrates them as unpatriotic and lickers of Western plates.

          To his tool of lie and disinformation, the Eritv, he labels with, Serving The Truth

          To the Isolation into which he has plunged our people and country, he calls , Self Reliance, Independent Foreign Foreign Policy.

          When the Commission of Inquiry reported that he might have committed Crime Against Humanity, he diverts it into a conspiracy of the UN against Eritrean Sovereignty, and to hide his lie, he covers it with historical antecedent.

          He handed over Badme to woyane in the late eighties , and in 1998, under guise of woyane invasion and in breach of international and local laws, he launches war on Ethiopia to regain it by force. This of course was a premeditated war he used as a pretext to put the country under his total control in order to commit the horrendous Crimes he has been committing ever since.

          To The gruesome reality is now before us and therefore, his Crime Against Humanity is crystal clear. However, the question of his Motive does not seem to have gained the necessary attention it deserves. I do not at all think that simple political power is his end but means. The transfer of Badme to woyane on the eve of military Victory over Ethiopia seems to indicate that the woyane border instigations and isaias afewerki’s response by resorting to illegal and unnecessary war were all pre planned and were mutually agreed upon schemes against the Sovereignty of Eritrea and its people.

          The bezzaar behavior of isaias afewerki after the Algiers agreement is also note worthy. He accused USA of attempting to overthrow him; unleashed endless rancor with the Peace Keepers, the UN General Secretary, the UNSC! He openly challenged the USA and UN over the Somali Islamist and he declared on TV that they were not defeated etc. The UNSC retaliated by slapping the people of Eritrea with crippling economic sanctions. Back then, many of us did not understand isaias afewerki’s motive behind his bezzaar behavior, but now, we do. By purposely antagonizing the world institutions, he was inviting them to inflict punitive damages on the people of Eritrea on his account. They did not know he was manipulating them to do his evil bidding. I hope they do now.

          To me, isaias afewerki, is the other face of woyane. We must not be mislead by the appearances they exude. It is all con artistry designed to keep us locked against each as a means of breaking our backbones. It was not in vain that our forefathers characterized the minds of tegaru as twi twai. It was to warn us not to fall to their treachery.

          Let us stop bickering against each other over trifles and start building the bridges we had broken through folly, and joined hands around Eritrean Sovereignty and its Territorial Integrity, and around the 1997 ratified Constitution. As they say, United We Stand, Divided We Fall.

          • Bayan Nagash

            Greetings Tewelde G.

            Somewhere in your note you mention that “Isaias afewerki speaks in irony which many Eritreans take litera[lly]”. As for the latter, Tewelde please watch the clip starting at its designated spot, and decipher for me what part of his gibberish is ironic when he was trying to make sense of the term “cold war” and that talk goes for some five or so minutes, that’s about how much I can stomach to watch or listen to this clown, thanks to Hayat A. who brought it to our attention few days ago. If this is not literal mind at work I don’t know what is. https://youtu.be/zyNMZYYfy1c

            More importantly though you make some unsettling remarks that I am having trouble reconciling. For example, you stipulate that “Woyane is isaias and isaias is woyane.” Why did he need a war to control the Eritrean public? It was being done one group at a time much as the Nazis did of German Jews and beyond that you cite as historical parallel. Remember the Jehovah Witnesses were the first group to receive the wrath of the regime in 1994. Not long after that the disabled Eritrean Vets in mai Habar. Not long after that Ruth Simon (Eritrean reporter) working the French news outlet was imprisoned under the guise of transgression of media policy. Not long after that Eritrean Muslim clerics and intellectuals, about 150 of them in the dead of the night to never be seen again. All these crimes were committed before the 1998 war that you reference.

            The biggest miscalculation for the regime came, in my estimate, when it began to venture outside Eritrea’s proper.The Eritrean regime managed to create a skirmish with Yemen over the Hanish Island where there was no need to; managed to confront Sudan. The third time turned out too devastating for Eritreans from which we have been unable to recover. Allow me to bring to your attention, staying with the Nazis’ gruesome crimes that you use to explicate your point. Remember this quote: “First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Socialist.Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Trade Unionist.Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.” Martin Niemöller (1892–1984)

            That’s precisely what the Eritrean people had done, looked the other way when the wrath of the regime didn’t apply to them. Ostensibly, every sector of the
            society has been impacted by the regime run amok, and Woyanes have very little to do with it. Attributing our internal problems to external elements brings us in cahoots with a regime that perfected the blame game and the victim card to a perfect pitch. So, let us please leave the Woyanes alone, they seem to be doing mighty fine without us in running the majority of Ethiopians far more capably than we have been able to do in our own country. No one to blame but ourselves is where it should all begin and end.