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  • Hope

    Correction: Please read as “Gen Lulu and HIS Gov..”.

  • Hayat Adem

    Hope,
    Verbatim: do you have a dictionary to look up? Or is there someone near you to ask for help?
    Following and believing in Nsu is first haram and then hard.

    • Hope

      Selam “Prof” Hayat Adem:”
      Am glad you got my message. But thanks for the “correction”.
      I have Prof Dr Gheteb on board, and will join one of his Summer Mentoring Classes,that has helped most of YPFDJ and JPFDJ to score high in all Pre-College Prep Courses.
      Time to lecture and counsel the Dedebit Grads in Mekele as to how to manage the stages of Pathological Grief they are going thru..

  • Acria

    Selam Abi,
    In a hall of 105 people, if 100 of them sing, and the 5 cry foul, no one will pay attention to the 5 of them. They will be overwhelmed. That is a quick subtraction and fear of “En’demer”.

  • saay7

    Hey Hope buddy:

    I accept your assignments and have answers for your questions 😂

    1 MeAs yu kwegHaley? When the prisons are emptied, and ዓማፂና ምስ ተፈርደ…

    2. What do you mean WE and when were you chosen as their spokesperson to tell this forum what to talk and not talk about? You talk about your priorities and I will talk about mine.

    3. What is my problem? See answer to number 1.

    4. I think you should stop obsessing about my obsessing and do your thing whatever that is.

    5. It clearly requires no guts nor courage to speak about TPLF because you do it all the time and there is no evidence you have either.

    6. There is no evidence that you have learned any lessons from our mistakes because you don’t even know what the mistakes are and what the learning process is.

    Any other questions?

    saay

    • Abi

      Hi Saay
      I have one question
      ምነው ብቻህን ታወራለህ ?

      • Hope

        Aheln Bika Ya Ustaz Abi: Until you join him…

  • Amde

    Hi Alex,

    “Progress happens one funeral at a time” even if we wish it is through enlightenment. The best indicator for the change in Ethiopia is the Median age of the leadership in each of the EPRDF parties. You can imagine which has the youngest and which has the oldest.

    I feel Eritrean opposition who are criticizing this impending peace are looking a gift horse in the mouth. They should embrace the peace, state how happy they are for Eritrean families, and start demanding “Demobilization Now!!”.

    Amde

    • Blink

      Dear Amde
      Just google the leadership of the Eritrean opposition and you will judge yourself how similar they look to Issaias people . It is not like people like saay are leaders in the opposition, the Eritrean opposition especially these in leadership or with big mic are as old as the PFDJ , if PFDJ wanted they can actually put many young but the opposition Leadership can not .

  • David Samson

    Hello Abi,
    Thanks!
    Ya, you can add “First Aid Kit ” in to PM’s “Medemer” project.

    • saay7

      Selamat David:

      PM Abiy is recognizing that his “Medemer” philosophy is open to misinterpretation and he is continuously refining it. In the Pentecostal tent revival Millenium Hall, he had a long “when we say “addition” what we mean is….” and then went on describing his rules of addition all the way not addressing (in fact, going way out of his way to emphasize the flaw in his rule): when you ADD a negative number, you are still substracting. When you ADD a rotten tomato to a basket of tomatoes, you are entering the whole basket is rotten. And when you go out of you not only to add Toxic Isaias to the basket, but ensuring he is smack in the middle of it, you may be thinking the love of the healthy tomatoes will heal the rotten one, but you are ensuring the acceleration of the rotting of your tomatoes.

      Many logical, reasonable people who know the rap sheet of a career criminal are telling us he can change. Or, worse, don’t care if he changes.

      saay

  • David Samson

    Hi Alex,
    “Move on”. I can’t. IA is holding me a hostage on my own house. Could you help?

    “You can turn on if you want, but the iron lady is not for turning”.

  • Nitricc

    Hi Guest.
    I understand your concern but please don’t be. After what Teddy Afro said and what Huchla said; you can see the heart beat of the country. Do you think PIA sitting and listening to Teddy and Huchla will say “hmmmm I need to involve on this one?” probably PIA was amazed those two artists have done. Their leader is talking unity and sameness and they came out one shooting with outdated Amara is great and the other came No, Oromo is greater. So, NO if any Eritrean sovereignty is strength by the event that it took place. However, there is nothing wrong to make peace, give them what they need and take what you need and make life a little easier for those people. I think Eritrea should do the same thing with Sudan. Eritrean sovereignty is not negotiable nor can be compromised. NO!!! Although, Eritrea will not be the same. many bad habits of Ethiopians will contaminate Eritreans, such as Khat, Shisha and many other things I don’t want to list, that is side-effect of peace and opening your the borders and those should concern you.

  • Abraham H.

    Selam Folks, is it true that the plane carrying DIA has evaded the Tigray and Afar airspaces and flew over Djibouti instead? If so, what could be the reason? I think PM Abiy did also the same when he flew to Asmara.

    • Berhe Y

      Hi Abreham,

      I think the reason they flew over Djibouti, because the IATA have to authorize / open the air space so it’s possible to do so, that’s based on speaking with someone who use to work in the Ethiopian airlines. Or may be it has to do with the sanctions Eritrea has and based on the insurance arrangement the airlines have. But I think it would open up as soon as the arrangements were done.

      I really don’t know what to make out of it, and what PMAA thinking is. Because IA is against everything he stands and says, but the fact that he is able to gloss over the crimes being committed in the country where IA directly responsible, it’s really hard to understand his motives.

      May be he believes he can influence him to change things in Eritrea for the better.

      Berhe

      • Acria

        Selam Berhe,

        PMAA motive is clear : Make Ethiopia great and peaceful. It looks like Ethiopia will have unlimited access to the port of Assab. For us, it won’t make a significant change, we are not using it productively. For Ethiopia, Assab will satisfy the 110 million people, economically and politically. In that case, all our struggle was in vain. All Ethiopia wanted was Assab to begin with. The only way we could benefit from this En’demer mantra is only if we will have true democracy as the a result.

        • Berhe Y

          Hi Acria,

          I was asking to get an objective analysis if the recent developments help or hinder our search for democracy from the ERITREAN people advantages and disadvantage point of view.

          Berhe

          • Kaddis

            Gash Berhe,
            There is info; the booking so far is dominantly one way. ያ ነገረኛ Saay as a Saudi flight ብሎ ነበር ፦) From Addis to Asmara. The price is revised to compensate. To sustain the flight Eritrea needs to change restrictive laws.The interaction and flow of information alone will incite positive change.

          • David Samson

            Selam Kaddis,
            Could you pass my plea to people who are intending to travel to Eritrea please?
            The “Piccolo Roma” of 1950s is a shadow of itself. I know Appearance could be deceptive. They should be given a therapy class-right after they embark from the plane.

            The only menu in town is “Beles” as PM had witnessed it. OR, they can take their own food with them as most diaspora Eritreans do.

          • FishMilk

            Hi David Samson. So, were you in Asmara in the 1950s? And when were you last in Asmara? Asmara has kinda been frozen in time over the past 20 years, as there has been little development, but it is still the same beautiful city that it always was and there are plenty as nice restaurants. On top of that, it is clean, crime is practically nonexistent, and it does not have a profusion of street girls on its streets at night like many African capitols do.

          • David Samson

            Hi FishMilk,

            The last time I was in Asmara: when the state of Eritrea was on its second “Honey Moon”-as far as freedom of expression is concerned.
            I was having a lunch at friend’s house with some senior GOE employees(All ex- fighters). When I saw a headline in one of those private newspapers’ – “Isias Afeworki is a full-blown dictator”, written by Mehret( I think she was just resigned from Ambassador role in Sweden), I was gobsmacked and literally trembling. I was speech less for few minutes and did not want to say a word, as I did not know how the people round react.

            The daily private newspapers were sold out by 10am. The only paper left unsold was “Hadas Eritrea”. This was also the time I found out- the real IA- “Never to be a politician”. He was completely blown out by the G-15 arguments and; he was lost and did not know to how handle them. I was lucky to depart a week before darkness descent on the country.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear David,

            I think you meant to say “Hibret” instead of “Mehret”. I too was in Asmara that same time and I remember asking my little brother to get all the private press for me early in the morning.

            I left Asmara a couple of months before and I do remember vividly how I witnessed people read the news papers daily at almost every place you venture it.

            At the same time they had announced election was to be held in Dec 2001 and my thinking was, IA must be very confident in his ability to win the election that he is able to allow the people / press to say what ever they wanted.

            To counter, IA had an interview with the private press that lasted for four hours…and he told them everything they wanted to hear….but told them he doesn’t read their news papers..but instead he gets his news from BBC Arabic or something…

            What a lost opportunity that was..

            Berhe

          • David Samson

            Selam Berhe,

            Lots of things could be said about the G-15-be it negatives or positives, but they have left their marks and exposed IA’s true colours- the conman artist. While my views about IA
            has evolved over the years since the mid 90s, the handling of the war had pushed my limit to a verge of saying the guy is virtually incompetent.
            However,the dispute with G-15 and its handling was a “Turning point” and an eye opener, as the saying goes the “King is naked”.

            Politics is an art ,and is all about words of arguments and persuasions. You can invent and tell lies millions of times to win over or knock down your opponents. He did not put in a single counter argument against the G-15. He always disguises his inability to engage by being sarcastic. I thought IA did the interview with Hadas Eritrea.

            I gave up on “Never politician to be” IA since then. I have never watched any of his clips or videos, nor listened to his interviews until his trip to Ethiopia. Yes, I follow and
            read what he said or being said about him, but it is all about it.
            This guy is through and through incompetent to be a politician.
            He had reached the “Law of diminishing return” in 1998 and has been living on “borrowed time” since then.

          • David Samson

            Selam Berhe,

            You are right and thanks for the correction.

            Lots of things could be said about the G-15-be it negatives or positives, but they have left their marks and exposed IA’s true colours- the conman artist.

            While my views about IA has evolved over the years since the mid-90s, the handling of the war had pushed my limit to a verge of saying the guy is virtually incompetent.

            However, the dispute with G-15 and its handling was a “Turning point” and an eye opener, as the saying goes the “King is naked”.

            Politics is an art and all about arguments and persuasions. You can invent and tell lies millions of times to win over or knock down your opponents. He did not put in a single counter argument against the G-15. He always disguises his inability to engage by being sarcastic.

            I thought IA did the interview with Hadas Eritrea( I could be wrong again).
            I gave up on IA “Never politician to be” since then. I have never watched any of his clips or videos, nor listened to his interviews until his trip to Ethiopia. Yes, I follow and read what he said or being said about him, but that it is all about it.

            This guy is through and through incompetent to be a politician. He reached the “Law of diminishing return” in 1998 and has been living on “borrowed time” since then.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi David,

            You could be write the interview may have been with Hadas Eritrea but I think the private press was there to ask him question. If I am not mistaken there was a picture of the journalist with him at that time, where Jeshua and Dawit Issac was there. I met Jeshua at that time around Bar Royal with his causin that I knew. And told him how nice to see the private press are doing in Eritrea. At around the same time, I also met Dan Connell who was having a lunch in a restaurant near Cinema Crocho Rosa, across from it. I also had a chance to say hi and told him how much I appreciate all his work. Later I learned I guess, that must be the time he was in Eritrea making the interviews with the G-15 where he published.

            I remember Yemane Ghebreab arranged a meeting with the Diaspora (I didn’t attend but some of my friends did) when he was asked why the government is going to do about the disagreements that was appearing. He told them not to worry and said that our political situation was maturing and they will solve it peacefully.

            I gave up on IA when he arrested the G-15 and the journalists. Ever since, I guess like most people, been waiting to hear his demise.

            Not being a good politician is not a necessary a bad thing, but I can’t fathom how cruel person he is. How he arrested the G-15 and how he denied them, even a quick death and let them suffer every minute and he can get up from his sleep every night, is something I can never get over about the cruelty of this man.

            Berhe

          • Kaddis

            Hi David.
            Ethiopians consumed and retained propaganda as every society. Over Romantacised Asmara was one; specially during Dergue maybe to make us fight forever. I still think people from our side will have the chance to appreciate the relative freedom we had and inspire Asmarinos and beyond for change; as you did to Ethiopia in the early 70s.

          • FishMilk

            Hi Kaddis. Expedia is now showing Addis Ababa>Asmara>Addis Ababa at a cost of USD 270 and the same price for R/T travel starting in Asmara.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Kaddis,

            I agree that’s one aspect of the change that Eritrean needs to accommodate in order for the whole transaction to be fair and sound business. Same goes for the travel by road between the two countries. The exchange rate (on the Eritrean side), I assume needs to be adjusted as well, in order to make the whole transaction worthwhile.

            1 ) The demand for demobilization from the public will increase once the excuse Ethiopia as a threat has been removed
            2) The travel restriction needs to be open on the Eritrean side as well.
            3) We increase the pressure of demanding the government to allow the return of refugees from all over but specially from Ethiopia and Sudan to go home and live in peace.
            4) Call for the release of political prisoners, the implementation of the constitution should increase. For example, the PM will visit the US, DC and California area, and we (those of us in the opposition if possible) should at the opportunity to have direct question or through what ever means is available ask the PM and get him on record to answer.

            So basically we keep pushing to what we can do to pressure the government relent and with every opportunity that crack created it gets wider and wider until we see it eventually opened fully.

            But most important I think, in my opinion, based on what transpired at the people to people side, I think starting and waging a war between the two countries and people, becomes almost i a war between the two countries, will be impossible for any government that comes in both countries any more. Ethiopian have accepted fully the independence of Eritrea, which was a worry for a lot of us and that’s a welcome development no matter who is at the helm in Eritrea.

            Personally I have believed Ethiopia acceptance to the ruling would be used as a catalyst for change in Eritrea, because IA would not have an excuse (not that he didn’t know that but the public demand) to continue the indefinite national service. But I didn’t imagine it would come this fast and to this level in such a short time.

            Berhe

          • Kaddis

            Dear Berhe
            Yes, there is no way out but to use every opportunity. It wont be easy. I just learnt two credible journalists are excluded from the first flight to Asmara.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear kaddis,

            This is good and bad. Bad because what suppose to be open and brotherhood isn’t really that all accurate as far as PFDJ goes. Good because it will expose the PFDJ to Ethiopian leaders and the world. Making them journalist will also makes it even better to expose the regime.

            Now you will see how it will relent and will allow then on the next flight. And they will blame someone else for the problems.

            That’s what I mean the opportunities that needs to be exploited.

            Berhe

          • saay7

            Selam Kaddis:

            Halima rejeEt fi Halet’ha algedima, say the Arabs. Halima has resorted back to her old life. They say this when people have a temporary reprieve and then go back to their bad habits and lifestyle.

            In the PFDJ world (and their paranoid followers), a journalist never makes a mistake. According to their worldview, a journalist, regardless how reputable the media they work for (AP) is always a mercenary executing someone’s agenda. They could have granted them a visa and given them an opportunity to visit (“come and see” as they claim) to correct whatever erroneous report they may have had. Failing that, they could have told them, in advance, that they are not allowed in. Instead, they had to find out that they are not allowed in when they didn’t see their names on the manifest.

            Of course they will complain to CPJ. Of course CPJ will protest. Of course the MoI will write some overwrought embarrassment.

            In other words, same old PFDJ.

            saay

          • Kaddis

            Selam Saay –

            Let alone with no practical experience in Eritrea ( maybe after 2001); Ethiopia also have a long way to go. Who ever owns the media, for example the current Oromo virtual media dominance is only used to stifle the other and used for pure propaganda. ESAT the same. So its not only the government.

            Don’t lose hope – there is enough capacity and experience of dodging government handlers coming your way 🙂

          • saay7

            Selam Kaddis:

            I am not sure that consoles me. On the issue of press freedom, Eritrea and Ethiopia are often ranked worst and second worst

            And no matter how bad the private press is, all it can abuse its power is in destroying someone’s reputation or wealth. The State on the hand has the power to take away someone’s liberty or life. Look at how the miserable govt of Ethiopia has stolen the liberty of journalists including Dawit Isaac without bringing him to court for a single day. When asked about him, Abiys “Issu” said: “We will not have any trial and we will not free him. We know how to handle his kind.”. That was in 2009, eight years after his arrest, the man now had his liberty stolen, for 17 years.

            saay

          • Kaddis

            Hi Saay – I agree to some extent.

            But given the social media penetration – now mob lynching is a common practice in India; ethnic polarization in Ethiopia is at its scariest level. The media owners, as long as its making political damage on the other side, they don’t care.
            Thats why I truly value Awate .com.
            No matter how desperate and helpless you feel at times – you keep the principles above your hot heads.
            A previlage Eritreans not yet acknowledged

          • Nitricc

            Hi Kaddis; you just put your own credibility when you said ” I just learnt two credible journalists are excluded from the first flight to Asmara.” They are the once who reported that ” 28 people killed” on the Akria debacle. the truth is not even a single person died. I am very happy they were excluded and never be allowed to enter Eritrea.
            You must like fake people and fake news.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Nitricc,

            You see this is good news for us. Now the pressure on PMAA will get thougher and people will tell him “you see we told you so”. This guy doesn’t even allow two journalist who reported unconfirmed news, based on the source they have, very normal in journalists world, how on earth is going to let Eritrean journalists out.

            When the pressure continues, you will see IA will relent and allow them and they will Blane some “junior person” for the mistake.

            And you will come to tell us how the PFDJ is good in correcting mistake.

            But it’s a huge warning to PMAA, its best for the people of Eritrea and peace of Ethiopia if IA is gone for good.

            Berhe

          • Blink

            Dear berhe
            These journalists should have retract the false story but their story is being stored in AP as truth . Unconfirmed news has always been stated as “ unconfirmed “ yet these guys wanted to dance with TPLF money.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Blink,

            It doesn’t really matter, the Eritrean government would have a chance to bring it up and use the opportunity to “fix” the situation what ever that may be.

            May be they could give them a tour of the Eritrean prisons and show them around that they are all empty or as they free the prisoners, so that the can write positive news about Eritrea and dance with PFDJ.

            Berhe

          • Blink

            Dear Berhe
            I think you read me wrongly. How do you give someone who was making lies and putting people as dead by bullets ? How do you expect such people even to think they can set their foot in Eritrea? I mean even we citizens who did nothing are not allowed to enter yet this guy comes asking for reasons why .

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Blink

            I think I understand you perfectly. I don’t think you understood me. The reason they spread “lies” is because they have no access to verify the truth, so they have to relay, on what ever information they have available and call the news “unconfirmed”.

            Not allowing citizens because they do not agree with government policy is not an honor.

            It just shows, how the government is paranoid and doesn’t not trust his own sh…t

            So the best way to fight back is by being open and let the “truth” set the government free.

            Berhe

          • Kaddis

            Nitricc hoy –

            I was about to give you some more credible names that I am glad they made it – apparently its not a wise thing to do 🙂

            There are a lot of policies I love, admire about EPRDF/TPLF… and there are a lot I hate. But I will never carry the burden of explaining their repression while they are enjoying life. Why are you carrying the Eri’s government burden of being repressive while the officials are chilling?

          • Blink

            Dear kaddis
            Credible ? How is a TPLF propagandist became credible in your world? Didn’t we pass that , the guy is a lying face . He has been lying ever since he became a journalist for AP .

          • Acria

            Hi Berhe,
            For Eritreans, any form of peace with Ethiopia, either as independent or united nation, should be welcomed. Eritreans are tired of fighting Ethiopia since 1962. Nevertheless, it is how you apply this developing peace that will dictate the results. I haven’t seen anything from PFDJ for the last 27 years to make me suddenly believe that they will change. Exposure of Eritrea to Ethiopia and the rest of the World may help the party to take some needed informal changes. It is possible, but unlikely. Most people don’t change their core values overnight. For the PFDJ to make a standing peace with the people of Eritrea, with Ethiopia, and the rest of the world, they need to admit their mistakes and apologize for their dictatorial administration.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Acria,

            I think we need to make a very important difference between change coming from IA / PFDJ willingly and change that will comes if they are forced. Let me give you an example.

            A three years ago the Oromo resistance come as a result of government policy to incorporate Oromo lands to Addiss Abeba for development and to give the land for rich developers, no body have thought that would spark the light that created the change we are witnessing today. EPRDF and TPLF didn’t know and didn’t read the signs what was happening and they tried to suppress the change, really surprised to see that, how people were ungrateful for the development the party have brought. The solution they were looking to implement was, change the electoral system, give better representation etc….

            The core of the problem was, that the economic and development in the country was not spread equally and people are tired of the same government. Sure the EPRDF have provided some peace, security (including food security) and relative freedom.

            But the big factor is, Ethiopians are also people. As any normal human beings, they need more from what they have. No human beings can say, I have enough, please give it someone else who doesn’t have it. That’s why we canonize those who do, but the rest of us, the majority of us want more. So when the basic needs are taking care of (such as food, shelter and clothing) then the other needs come to surface.

            And with concerted efforts of the Oromo youth, they were able to successful bring change (forcing the PM to resign and eventually the current PM to take over).

            So when we are talking about change in Eritrea, I don’t we should expect it to come from IA and PFDJ. It’s a change that we need to seek to obtain and no body will hand us.

            The opening of the boarders with Ethiopia including travel and other economic factors, will help us with our demand for change.

            So I think we should focus, accepting where things stand, and work around it to our benefit. Instead of looking at Ethiopian move for it’s own domestic interests, we have to search and find so it will be equally to the benefit of our people as well.

            A simple test would be, suppose IA drops dead tomorrow. Do we continue the relationship that’s established with PMAA and Ethiopia or do we expect it null and start all over? I think we would be foolish not to continue where it is at.

            Berhe

          • Acria

            Hello Berhe,
            Although it is always better for a change to come from inside, this is unlikely to happen in Eritrea. For the last 27 years, we haven’t seen any change even in leadership. The Eritrean people, especially the youth, are demoralized and incapacitated that they are fleeing the country to find solace outside. This trend is very sad and un-Eritreaness! The only hope at this moment is for change to come from PFDJ leadership when they are exposed to the world around them.

            Open borders with Ethiopia is just nominal. We first have to clear the huge amount of landmines buried in the border towns. Second the PFDJ has to officially release a memorandum to who will be freely going to Ethiopia. As long as the PFDJ is power and as long as they don’t change their ways of handling the government, things will remain status que. Change will be for the echelons of PFDJ.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Acria,

            Considering where things are, what do you think the viable option to fight the PFDJ at this moment?

            Berhe

        • Kaddis

          Greetings Acria;
          The old political elite as you said is Assab addicted. Not the regional elites who are powerful now. The Eth gov wants to reduce its exposure to enemy lines. We were exposed on the Eritrea side. Thats it. Reason: we can’t afford it anymore; debt and internal caios.

          • Acria

            Selam Kaddis,
            Exposed on the Eritrean side? From whom? I don’t think you mean from Eritreans? Have you heard PMAA’s speech in the Millennium Hall during Isaias’s visit? He specifically mentioned the unlimited access to Assab; and, he is not an old school! Assab has an economic and a political significance to Ethiopia. Definitely, peace and the ensuing security as a result is a major impetus for progress for any country. PMAA is trying his best to combat the tribalism that has almost engulfed Ethiopia. Peace with Eritrea is another positive distraction method to keep the Ethiopian population preoccupied so that they come together at this critical moment. I hope it leads to true democracy in both countries!

          • Kaddis

            Hi Acria,
            We are on the same page ; you only need to move your last para first ፦)
            On exposure, the horn unfortunately is a proxy war field.
            Cheers

          • Hope

            Kaddis:
            Keep the optimism!
            No more hegemony and proxy war any more as long as Eritrea and Ethiopia work together -the root causes of both the negative and positive developments of the Horn in particular and in Africa in general.

    • Fanti Ghana

      Selam Abraham H,

      There may still be some automated anti aircraft equipment along the no-fly zone. If you recall the Egyptian civilian aircraft that was shot many years ago was shot precisely the moment it reached Ethiopian airspace. It was too precise to have been a human reaction. So, my guess is that they are being caution until the area is cleared and verified.

    • Peace!

      Abraham,

      I didn’t know that, thank you for the info. I have never seen such ፎኮስኮስ between state leaders in my whole life. Well, then the Sawa speech and Debretsion’s interview make more sense than the 60k wedding ring. DIA got his dream job, the stabilizer, at the cost of Eritrean lives. So if non one can stop the looming nightmare right now, the country is doomed.

      Peace!

    • Selam Abraham H.

      I have no idea about air route, air corridor, satellite navigation, and the significance of closed air routes, etc. The fact that the area was a war zone and therefore a no fly zone for civilian airplanes, and to resume flights may require permission from an agency, etc, are unknown to us. Could these be among the reasons?

  • Amde

    Selam Horizon,

    PMAbiy’s actions have – on a number of occasions – forced me review my own prejudices and the priorities driven by them. I think that is what we are seeing today among some Eritreans.

    What does one hate more, Isayyas? Integration with Ethiopia?

    What should one be concerned with the most? An Ethiopian invasion? Economic destitution? Demographic loss?

    It also brings to the fore the definitions of sovereignty in this day and age? In the old days it was simple. Today, integration is an economic necessity, and one trades pieces and slivers of one’s sovereignty for the best integrationist deals.

    Amde

  • Nitricc

    Hi all; I will say more when I watch the real events what transpired over the weekend but reading some people’s post, I can’t help but notice their anger , irritation and resentments and I have no idea why?
    I thought what was needed was peace, harmony and serenity, so why be angry, why be so irritated? I think the problem for many of you is hate. Once hate conquered your heart you will never see the goodness for itself. I am sure many of you want peace and
    stability but why is it matters that who brings the peace and stability? I am sure; YOU the haters would be allover singing cumbias if this was done by other person other than PIA. You will be parsing to no end how that person is courageous enough to cross the line and make a peace with the Ethiopians, unlike the “despot “ “ dictator” whatever the evil language you prefer to use. I read a comment by Tsigereda, who is attacking PMAA for “ rehabilitating the dictator” Excuse me but Dr. Abiy do what is best for Ethiopia and PIA does what is best for his country. I don’t think PMAA going to sit down and will think about what you all think. You people have your life to warry take about. If you are threatened by prospect of peace and harmony; then check your soul.
    PMAA went all in and achieved what he set out to achieve and PIA seen the window of opportunity to make peace to make his country better and stronger while paying revenge to his TPLF friends. So it is a win-win situation. One thing Eritrean needs to know that PIA knew all along is that you can’t hold 100+ million people land-locked, at one point you have to make a decision and PIA made one. My point is accepting the peace regardless that who brings it. Besides; you need to worry about your modern slavery you are
    in and worry about your miserable life and leave the people who are working day night for their country and people, alone.

    • Selam Nitric ANTA QOLAA!

      Eclesiastics. I hate your and your clones clowning. Entay afliTuka natka Habela abb Aynikha gedifkas nkiTurr fiQri zeyshimu thib? Eritrea has no space for what you consider to be love. Please shut up you “single celled ameoba.” God said there is a time for everthing. It is a time to hate Nitric, Gheteb, George and all the retards at awate.

      tSAtSE

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Selam Sam,

    I understand from what you are coming. Unfortunately, it is what it is. I can only remind the danger we are confronted with, and in the process, if the Eritrean people can wake up and do something to protect their rights in the context of our sovereignty.

    • Sam

      Hello Amanuel,

      “If the the Eritrean people can wake up….” that’s a big If. Nothing short of a fire storm that will consume the country beyond redemption will wake us up to act. But then there will be nothing left to save. I don’t blame the people back home. They have been betrayed both by IA and his opponents. PMAA looks like what they are settling for and who can blame them. I am actually surprised that they have lasted this long.

      • Hope

        Sam;

        U said:

        ” He has been making strides unopposed by opponents hell bent on wiping out anything IA from the face of Eritrea and wouldn’t settle for anything less”.

        Spot on, sir, except that Eritreans have to go thru hell due to the collateral but expected damages during these kinds of tsunamis.

        Hope I understood U correctly that you are calling the spade, a SPADE; and giving a partial credit to the same Dictator,who has survived every and any tsunami under the Sun.

        But then you contradicted, per my limited understanding of your comment, including within the same statement, so as to appease Aman Hidrat and said:

        “They have been betrayed both by IA and his opponents. PMAA looks like what they are settling for and who can blame them. I am actually surprised that they have lasted this long.”

        Glad U included the Aman et al Opposition Groups though-if at all Aman Hidrat understood your message.

        IA might have betrayed the Eri people but only or at least partially as a collateral damage of his courageous fighting against all enemies that included internal and external enemies and real threats and against all odds to save himself as a Dictator as well as the nation out of the HELL the same defenseless nation has gone through with no ZERRAI to call upon for help….a FACT no one can deny or refute let alone Aman et al, who have been a part and parcel of that Tsunami in the name of the Eri Opposition.

        Granted, there is no need to preach fear among Eritreans about the Eri Sovereignty being at risk simply coz IA accepted the Timely and Golden Peace Offer in a Silver Platter that he has been waiting for 16 yrs to be “offered’-rather to be accepted.

        Talking about the past mistakes and failures and to confuse the legitimate euphoria of majority at this moment by bringing up left-over grudges secondary due to stories that happened in 1960s and 70s is but a sign of failure.

        Worse, unwarranted and unjustifiable warnings, metaphysical and delusional pseudo-political analysis and fear-mongering lectures about the Eri Sovereignty and Independence being sold and betrayed without a shred of circumstantial evidence except expected the euphoria and over-reaction to the peace process and emotional and exaggerated” speeches, is beyond crying crocodile tears and unconstructive mantra, to say the least.

        If that is the final and left over-TPLF-sponsored Evil propaganda, it is too late now.

        Time to move on and catch the fast-moving Train and to work hard to keep and strengthen the peace process so as to compensate for the lost opportunities for the last 20 yrs and thereby achieve the Economic integration of the Region and let the fear about the re-union of both nations and peoples be left over and be saved for tomorrow and beyond–so that Mother nature shall take care of it.

        Stick to what you said above;

        “Why are we focusing on tangential issues like the similarities between the five point plan and the five pillars? Even if you believe that there is no difference between the two, give the man credit for surviving long enough to continue where he left off sixteen years ago unhindered by his opponents’.
        Let us do our home work by creating a real and a timely, a strong, Neutral(No more TPLF to interfere in), Independent and a United Opposition to contribute positively to the new Peace Process so that it will be for the BEST INTEREST of Eritrea and Eritreans by checking on and challenging, as well as criticizing the IA Regime and to do business with Transparency and Accountability, not the old styled-secretive way, behind the scene decisions ,measures and negotiations.
        If we don’t do our job and home work; and if we let IA to keep doing what he has been doing, then it is OUR FALUT ,NOT HIS.
        With respect and regards,
        Hope…

  • Amde

    Selam Awatistas,

    For the record, I will say this past weekend was over the top. But it was a lot of pomp and ceremony to signify the turning of a new page in the relationship of two states.

    I think the question of keeping eritrean people’s interest in mind in valid.

    However, I would like to ask you what the alternatives are/were for a PM Abiy from his pov.

    1. He could have made no changes to the status quo and parked the issue. That would mean the continuation of a militarised border and no relationship until Eri leadership change.

    2. He could have unilaterally withdrawn from uncontested-per-Algiers border, kept highly populated areas within Ethiopia, but otherwise kept relationships frosty until Eri leadership change.

    3. He could have limited relationship with existing Eri leadership. Such as commercial deals but with restricted people and capital flows.

    4. He could normalize relationship with existing Eri leadership.

    5. He could force a new Eri Leadership.

    Obviously “He could” is theoretical within the bounds of reality.

    Still, these appear to be his choices to me. I would like to know if he had other options that would not make the Isayyas regime an enemy.
    Within this continuum, he chose the boldest and at the same time rational choice – which is to normalize relationships without getting tangled with internal Eritrean politics.

    Amde

    • Haile S.

      Selam Amde,
      I agree with your take. Now, since Abiy is the de-facto Eritrean foreign minister, he can call all Eritrean opposition groups for official consultation in Addis Abeba, of course with the blessing of his President (IA). This will be an honorable undertaking for both.

      • Amde

        Selam Haile,

        What would “Official Consultation” mean? I am assuming there are unofficial lines of communication now. To be honest, I don’t know if “the opposition” can present a unified list, since they are many and diverse. But, I imagine a minimum opposition request would be for Isayyas to emulate the Abiy path so far of releasing prisoners. Probably for most Eritreans, the primary request would be for demobilization – which the new normalization process will make theoretically possible very soon.

        Amde

        • Haile S.

          Selam Amde,
          I will be brief because of time constraints. The previous Eth gov’s strategy was for replacement መለወጥ. Now Abiy came with this idea of addition መደመር. In this sense he can be the perfect bridging medium for the opposition between themselves, but also a wide bridge with IA’s regime. Abiy’s idea of a different approach to solving problems is very attractive and it is in this sense I expect him to be a great medium of communication between the protagonists I mentioned.

    • Mitiku Melesse

      Hei Amde.
      Your practical choices are based on the mind set starting from around 1991. But Dr Abyi has a differnt thought. He leaving history to judge who is wrong or right that the path taken arroung 1991 was wrong. What was right is the one you have seen now. What people wanted was the one you saw in Asmara and repeated in Addis. He repeatedly underlined that we regardless our positions or Eritrea or Ethiopian must focus on honesty, sharing, kindness,forgiveness, acceptance of agree to disagree (we dont have wipe out any one who disagree with us), who we are, which ethnic groups we have in common, must look ourselves deeper than the tag Eri/Ethio.

      • Amde

        Selam Mitiku,

        I don’t disagree, but as you can see on this forum, many Eritreans think the practical outcome is additional lifespan to the Isayyas regime, whereas all these years they have been trying to shorten it. I do not think Dr. Abiy misses this point. To me, what he is providing Eritreans right now is a bit of normalcy – however “normal” life under a totalitarian one-party state can be. And demobilization is a huge part of that. Pretty much all Eritrean families have now been provided evidence that the current Ethiopian government nor Ethiopian families are a threat that warrants any longer the undefined long term national service.

        Amde

        • saay7

          Selamat Amde:

          I think it’s a little beyond that. So, since the Opposition is a vast tent (ideologically if not organizationally, let me speak for myself. If IA did exactly what he is doing, after consulting ONLY with his PFDJ, after he had a meeting with them, I would feel better. I would postpone my “why only PFDJ; why not the Eritrean people” to a later date because I know even within PFDJ notwithstanding all my differences with them, there are nationalist elements. I would postpone oh well this elongates his rule to another date. The problem is that he is consulting with no Eritrean. The only people who know what he is doing are PM Abiye, the UAE and USA.

          This is a problem because the man, as we saw video evidence, is now just a bundle of emotions driven by “and what will piss off the TPLF the most?” He has a record of excercising very poor judgement with catastrophic outcome for Eritrea. It is also problem because he is saying that nobody else’s opinion counts.

          saay

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Saay,

            It’s hard to witness such drama over the weekend.

            so Saay in your opinion, knowing what we know based on what we witnessed in the couple of weeks.

            Does what happened help the opposition (resistance to IA rule) or hinder us?

            I am thinking from the perspective of fighting the IA regime and the condition of our and our people find ourselves in, towards achieving democracy and rule of law. And not not necessary from the position of the Eritrean opposition stationed in Ethiopia point of view.

            And how do you think we should align ourselves to exploit the situations to our advantage.

            Berhe

          • iSem

            Sal and Amde:
            PMAA;s swift move for peace was not a novel idea, TPLF was saying the same: negotiate and then demarcate, but the moment PMAA came IA accpeted. He was humiliated by MZ not only on the defeat in te war but MZ denied him the stage, IA was desperate during the signing, MZ was proud, IA huggedhim passionately, MZ responded with almost air hug
            IA is doing what he is used to doing and fault is on Eritreans, they have committed suide and the remaining men around him are impotent, he can slap them with his bare hands and they will come back to him
            Abiye’s honey moon will son wear out as he deals with his own crisis and he soon will have to be soon initiated in the pantheons of dictators when he shoots some in the uprising. When St. Paul preached love, he really loved and died for its sake, when Eritrean Bitweded preached love he did it among his country men in the middest of spies and he paid for it. And if PMAA is serious about his love ( never mind that he did not credit Bitweded) LOL he must be on the side of Eritrean aspiration of justice. He can do his withdrawing without canonizing Issue or wedi Afom. IA is doing his whoring and so is Abiye, but Abiye is doing it like King David, swaddled in prayers and prophecy and LOVE
            If IA cannot make peace with the next Killil the Abiye’s message of love cannot work and every mess that befalls Ethiopia and even Eritrea will be on PMAA from now own will be on him and and if that happens TPLF’s demise death may have been an exageration, maybe they jumped sheep

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear Saay,

            No! No! Saay, such kind of agreements should be ratified by the representatives of our people, through debates and deliberation in the people’s house. Any agreement by the whim of a party, or by the whim of a leader is not legitimate. What he is doing is not a policy thst can be taken by any government. He is deciding the political fate of a nation and its people, to make us one people with Ethiopia. No party, no government, or no leader can decide the fate of the Eritrean people.

          • saay7

            Selamat Emma:

            Read again what I wrote please.

            “Whim of a party” is still better than the whims of one man.

            I don’t disagree with the rest of your points.

            It’s funny to me when the all-but-dead PFDJ tells us its “game over” for TPLF, a party whose organs (legislative, institutional, ideological) are intact.

            saay

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear Saay,

            I was precisely responding when “the whim of a party” could be okay with you. Usually, parties decision are decided by few. So what I was saying is, whether it is decided by one man or a group of men, is not okay. A party can have its own policies, but can not determine the fate of a nation and its people. The despot is making agreements beyond peace whether it is approved by his party or not. Tomorrow he might tell us that he entered in to an agreement either for Federation or Confederation with Ethiopia, whether it is approved by whim of his party or by the whim of his own power. Either way it should not be welcomed. That was my message to you.

          • @george

            Dear saay

            I as much as i disagee with you, you are spot on on this one. I have a fear that Abiy being a ready made cia puppet.

            1. Knew what makes pia tick

            2. Said and did everything he wants to hear

            3.pia may have promised him the moon and the sun.

            4 Abiy made a military pact with sudan and Djibouti right when you get the power.

            5. I’m afraid that’s the pre-plan just in case if pia is demoted because of the Arrangements in secret he made, they can envaid us

          • Amde

            Selam @george,

            For what conceivable reason would Ethiopia invade Eritrea? For what possible purpose?

            It is cheaper to integrate economically, and Eritreans will be happy to integrate.

            Amde

          • saay7

            Hey @george:

            I have turned on the stopwatch to see how long it will take before the wandering sheep is brought back to the flock. It’s Monday July 16. 😀

            Tic. Toc

            saay

          • Mitiku Melesse

            Hei, George.
            Keep on being paranoid. Soon Ethiopia anD eritrea would sign military pact and you come up with the idea that Ethiopia took controll over Eritrean military too.

          • @george

            Dear mitiku

            Call me what you like. My gut feeling is this whole thing was cooked up by yr master, yes your master usa. They knew Eritrea was sailying away and your country was weeks from burning down. By the way Abiy is a pre paid cia agent. Take your time and listen to all speech. He has all the hallmark of Americanized lingo and ideas.

            As you know EU+US, are very sophisticated. Between them to have thousands of years of knowledge and experience how to manipulate people. Starting from Roman Empire to now, down learn how to manipulate. Deaf history books written language and passed on from generation to generation.

            The bottom line is the ultimate goal is to create a Global governments. Then they can start by Regional integration followed by Continental integration. Anyway, we going to uncharted teritory.

          • Mitiku Melesse

            Geogrge, I dont mean the EU,US. On that aspect you are completely right. But our PM is the result of our struggle against tplf from day one since the west put them in addis. There is no other way than to choose peace and forgiveness for change in Ethiopia and Eritrea.

            By the way when Isu and the devil meless were good friends to usa they both took one plane to UN meeting. You know what was their nick name by USA, the youngest democratic presidents. That time both were president. USA did not want the two became antagonistic so that it coudlnt be forced to choose one of them.

          • Amde

            Selam saay,

            “The problem is that he is consulting with no Eritrean. The only people who know what he is doing are PM Abiye, the UAE and USA. ”

            Is this speaking figuratively or literally? I cannot imagine one can run a state (let alone a tightly controlled country like Eritrea) without a team that would be inducted into the most closely held of secrets. Some core group must know and advise at the very least.

            Do you think either of the Yemanes don’t know? Inconceivable!! The visits were an orchestrated selling job which the Eri and Ethio side put out, and my guess is the public turned out to be a lot more enthusiastic than either one of them dared to hope.

            Amde

          • saay7

            Selamat Amde:

            No, sir, I am speaking literally not figuratively.

            In one of the wikileaks, the former bodyguard of IA who defected told us that IA spent all his days alone, tinkering with his artwork and then surfaced when he felt like it, sometimes days later. This is before Adi Halo, which became his retreat.

            The Yemanes are enforcers not consultants. An enforcer doesn’t what he is told and a consulted is solicited for his views. In case you are mislead by Yemane Gebreabs title as “presidential advisor” please don’t: It is a title spontaneously invented in one meeting when US officials wouldn’t recognize the “political director of PFDJ.” For years, he operated with two titles —one domestic and one for international consumption; his consultant title is used in media that Isaias Afwerki is too bored to read; his “political director” title is used for media that IA has a probability of consuming (for example, that’s how he was introduced as a member of the delegation that went to Addis.)

            I don’t think people appreciate how entirely narcissistic the man is. And he has surrounded himself with a bunch of yes men and yes women who can’t even look at him in the eye. When Ethiopians looked at the video of Abiy at IAs residence Ethiopians were impressed by the modesty of his villa whereas people like me where saddened by the servile attitude of the ministers. Now multiply that government-wide.

            saay

          • Amde

            Hi saay,

            Allow me to play devil’s advocate.

            How can a recluse run such a tight ship? When it comes down to it, the dictatorship business is mostly about information. Getting it. Vetting it. Hoarding it. Weaponising it. Hiding it.

            And occasionally – taking action.

            Even breaking up of potential plots requires being privy to what is going on.

            Either the Eri leadership is so impotent that a recluse can control them. Or they are willing participants in what he does – which would include whatever transpired this weekend.

            Amde

          • saay7

            Amde:

            An excellent question. Allow me to narrate the story of the dog.

            Well this was way back before PETA told scientists they can’t experiment on animals. But back when scientists could, they run tests on conditioning. Look up the one by Martin Seligman in 1965 and you will learn about Learned Helplessness.

            So it’s latter—impotent—and it’s conditioning. He does have spies everywhere (or just as powerfully convinced them he has) and he says things like “there is going to be restructuring of the government” every other week and like employees who hear of company rumors of layoff, they spend all their time trying to save their miserable careers. If you want to see more, look for Ramadan Mohammed Nur, one of the founders of our revolution, confused for a waiter at the Shindig for your PM.

            iSem “learned helplessness” also answers your favorite question: why don’t 100 Eritreans, all military trained, walking with 2 human traffickers with two guns overpower him and shoot them dead and set themselves free.

            saay

          • Amde

            Saay,

            Interesting .

            I often think that dictators are like savants, with specialized mental skill set or natural gifts at judging character, tracking relationships and so on. It’s unreal how long they can stay on top – even if they do not pass on durable institutions and whatever they built usually end in great conflagration.

            As an aside, I have/had a copy of the Seligman book. The book and its concepts were supposed to help as therapy, but it was said that the CIA etc used it as a manual on how to induce helplessness in captives in the whole GWoT (Global War on Terror) and Iraq etc…

            Amde

          • Selam Amde,

            Why human beings are conditioned to the herd mentality, confined people succumb to the ‘stockholm syndrome’, or a single person like hitler could lead the german people in to a world war from which they knew they will never come out winners, an african dictator who rules over a 4m people can take his people to a war with a country 20 times its size, etc, remain mind boggling.

            What is different about the brain of a dictator, was studied with MRI imaging by a certain scientist, and he found out that indeed anatomically and functionally, there is some difference with that of the normal person. It showed that there was a developed and hyperactive area of the brain which was less prominent in the brain of normal people. To his surprise, he found a more or less similar pattern in most people who were antisocial, criminals, aggressive, etc. Therefore, the mental skill or natural gifts they have is much more their ruthlessness, callousness, and having no limit to what they can do, rather than their high iq.

            Put on this the environment, inherent and external actors. Why did the german people followed hitler, and why did eritreans revered their dictator. I remember somebody who said, give me any person (especially the young), and i can make him/her a saint or a devil. Propaganda is a strong instrument, and that is one of the weapons the dictator used (all dictator use) to brainwash the people, and create instinctive followers. He told them ‘ethiopia is the enemy, we are superior people, we can be self-reliant, etc, but never saying at what cost. Of course, at the same time the ethiopian governments proved with their actions what he told them.

            Today, things are at the stage when the dictator can blackmail the eri leadership, by saying we are all in the same s…h… I didn’t do it alone, and i will take you with me if you dare. Maybe, he meant this when he said i will take the land with me if i go.

            Nevertheless, the million dollar question now is, how eritreans would react if he turns around and says, ‘forget all the nonsense about the peace deal, eritrea is great as she is’. Do you think anybody in the country would react to that after the glimpse of light they saw of the reality on the ground? I do not think so. It is as if they have left their fate in his hands. That is the main problem. He controls not only the life, but also the mind of the people. Many still believe that they would rather trust the dictator despite all odds than ethiopia, because for most eritreans, eritrean independence and a friendly ethiopia do not go together.

          • Amde

            Selam Horizon

            “Customized medicine” is the holy grail of pharmacology whereby medication is made to one’s genetic composition.

            I hope we get to a point where customized education/counselling is available based on predisposition due to genetics and or brain structure.

            Amde

          • saay7

            Selamat Amde:

            “Interesting” is an interesting word:)

            Of course you have Seligman’s book; is there anything you don’t know? Actually I didn’t know they were using it in Gitmo but it makes perfect sense.

            On the talents of dictators, the one in Eritrea (and I assume the one in Rwanda) have pulled a hat trick: (a) it’s taboo in Eritrea for anyone to ask any questions about people’s ethnicity and ancestry: (b) it’s a requirement of all govt agencies to update their database on people’s ethnicity and ancestry. This gives the govt massive information advantage to disrupt any attempt at organizing and to defame any dissident. Every single one who dared to stand up against the IA regime has had a “Who Is So-and-so?” which then tells us half truths and outright falsehood on the person to lead its reader to one conclusion: the person is not Eritrean (either by lineage or by acts of treason.)

            saay

        • Blink

          Dear Amde
          Remember this forum also consists people who wanted to leave their mark in Eritrea but couldn’t do that due to arrogance and also very very poor understanding of the current Eritrea. Peace by anyone is always good to Eritreans. It is not like everyone in the same boat with this forum. There are millions of Eritreans who have different idea about the current Abiy wave in our region.American democracy is not going to be served in plates . There countless Eritreans who look for bread and water too. The past 19 years was not easy to Eritreans and any lose of war is always good. The Eritrean opposition has a diseas that can not be cured by one day or year . Issaias does not have any good but what can the people do ?

    • David Samson

      Selam Amde,

      Eritrean people have found themselves “Between a rock and a hard place”. They neither choose the war, nor the peace. It is imposed on them. Whatever options the PM has taken, he will disappoint some people, that is just nature of politics. Let’s take the peace agreement at face value, regardless of its merits, and see how it is going to unfold.

      It is not a question of “IF”, but, “When”, the love affairs between IA and PMAA will end. IA has be given a life-line by PMAA and abides his time to take the position of “Capo” back. When Mugabe was weakened by his stupid and reckless policies and was cornered, he had to swallow his pride and agreed to share power with Morgan. When fortune had turned in his favour, he was ready to pass his power to his wife. Unfortunately, time caught on him. IA is eyeing the big prize- whether his fate is that of Mugabe, or not, time will tell.

      Sooner or later, the PM “Honey moon” comes to an end and “Real politick” kicks in-sound bites can only last you for a while. The PM has lots of things on his “Plates”. Will he change or amend the “Ethnic Federation constitution? Whatever he does, he is going to inevitably disappoint some part of the country. Which flag to use raised an eyebrow during his USA’s recent visit? His job is cut out by the expectations he has created. I do not know how he is going to keep a balance between two “Mutuality exclusive projects”. The 3000 years- The Esats, the ex-Derg, the “One Ethiopia” on one corner and on the other corner, then you have a young population- born after 91 and only know “Ethnic Ethio mind set” and One Ethiopia does not seem much to them. For the “One Ethiopia” to succeed, you need another 30 years to reverse the “Ethnic Ethio mind set” I do not know the facts on the ground, but I have the impression that most, if not all, minorities- including TPLF want to keep the status quo. Relatively, IA, job is quite easy.

      • Amde

        Selam David Samson,

        What you are saying makes sense to me, and was part of the reason I was opposed to Abiy picking up the Eritrea card at this point.

        How much time does Isayyas have left that he will want to start capo? Plus, when all is said and done, I think Eritrean rapprochement was prioritized by external players, who probably did not mind and maybe even approved of it being resolved within a regionalist Abiy vision. It seems to me there is an alignment of interests (Abiy, Isayyas, regional) that want this, so it has a good chance of being more stable than just the whims of one man.

        Amde

        • David Samson

          Selam Made,

          Well, the time is-until infinity. In one of his interviews, IA had predicted to lead what ever left of the “State of Eritrea” until he hits centenary. You might laugh, but the chap has been suffering from delusion since the war. Until he received the “Olive branch” by PM, he was living as “Reclusive” in AdiHalo. He had lost in touch with reality and only one or so people could visit and talk to him. He was “Untouchable” In fact, rumours have it, some of his minsters and generals had been pleading to his eldest son to talk to his dad on their behalf. There is no doubt that IA, has been grooming his sons for succession. I believe, he left the succession process and timing too short and this will be his Achilles heel.

          The external players also apply to Ethiopia. Mind you, both countries are now “Proxy states”. Yes, Ethiopia has a high leverage- given its size and population.

          • Natom Habom

            selam david
            here we go again ,please please people are enjoying peace right
            have you any proof than rumor when you saying he is grooming his son ,????
            this why he isolated his family from politics ,and yet evil eye see danger where there is none

          • David Samson

            Selam Habtom,

            Recently, Kibrom, told us IA’s children have been to Dubai. They had received a VIP treatment by the monarch. Yes, EriTV did not show it.
            Here are my interpretations of the visit:

            Since politics is a murky business, with many unknown variables; all dictators always prepare for rainy days. IA is not an exception. Dubai is known as a “Tax heaven” country. It is an ideal location for money launderers and shoddy businesses.

            Do you know where all funds the country has generated from mining and leasing of ports are?

            Do you also know that IA’s eldest son has some military rank? How did he get it? Merit, or connection? His son needs exposure to murky politics- call it “Temokro Nay Dubai”.

          • @george

            Dear david

            How much money did we make? Let’s Bowl park. How do you feed 200,000 soldiers everyday for the last 20 years? Gasoline for the truck? Where to get the money to have a free medical? Free education? Salary for government employees. How about the money that we reinvested to buy shares of other mining projects. Import fuel. …

            You should worry about what PIA Mumble about being one. What do you mean we going to have security Arrangements with etheopia? Does that mean it’s ethiopian navy going to be on ports? This is a moment where everybody interested should converge. Not gossip talk.

          • David Samson

            Selam @George,

            I do not know why my response to your thread has disappeared from the page.

            Suddenly and out of blue, you are now turned on to “Concerned Citizen”.
            As “Nsu” supporter, will you have the guts to ask him your concerns? I very much doubt!

            IA has been turned in to how the way is-not because of people who have pleading to him to curb his access, but rather his blind supporters. Since IA has contempt for his people, it is futile attempt to reform him. He has been living on “Borrowed Time” since the we found out the “King is naked”.

            It is still better late than never, so, if you care about your country and its people, the “Ball is still in your court”

          • Natom Habom

            selam David
            you just paroting the same crap
            no evidence you have just trowing rumors so it can circulate everywhere
            if he wanted he could stay in the great palace as a president there was no wrong at all he didnt to show exemple ,no one ever accuse him of corruption maybe you friend told you about one of the woyane

          • David Samson

            Selam Natom Habom,

            IA, as uncorrupted leader, who lives a simple ordinary live image had its prime time in the 90s.

            Many people, including myself, has consumed the PR stunt. Even our mothers’ do not buy this cheap trick anymore. The 90s image of IA had run out of domestic consumers.

            The new clip has aimed at new audience- the Ethiopian population. Initial figures show a promising start.

            The Generals, who once walked in to the streets of Asmara with their Tanks and Kalashnikov, are now multimillionaire’s business
            owners.
            What is the worst kind of corruption? Presiding on corrupted individuals and businesses.
            I hope you would not ask me to provide you with evidence, if Generals Phlipos and late Wuchu(Rest in peace) are corrupt or not?

          • Natom Habom

            selam David
            again it just lies by the way its not the first time I dont remember the name an international organization named Eritrea the most corrupt country in the world and was kind make in Ethiopia look better it was funny we liked his jock ,
            but for you can keep vilifing Eritrea and Tigray is paying the price for that as we know all the source of the misery of Eritrea come from there.
            let me give a proof ,if corruption existed in Eritrea with the sanction ,with isolation ,with threat eritrea would have collapsed until know .how do you think the country with it few economy stood it ground while Ethiopia with 8 digit growth is on it knee
            there was no even foreign currency to purchase good the hyena (jiboch) didn t left nothing .so please that time is over blackmailing Eritrea at this moment would be a jock please enjoy the peace among our people
            cheers

          • Mitiku Melesse

            Hei, David.
            Now i come to this conclusion thanks to forums like this one. PIA is either superman as the ”oppositions” depicted him or he is the man of the majority or both; what do i know.

            Is there any Eritrean opposition party in the sens we all agree what oppositions mean.

          • David Samson

            Not really! please see SAAY’s response to Amde.
            Eritrean oppositions are similar to any other. Very similar to Libyan, Syrian and Iraqs oppositions. Major Dawit had an interview with Esat. When asked why he has not joined the “Opposition”, his reply was ” Keep dreaming if you think you can change government from a distance” . I never believed we, in the “Opposition” are weak. We do have capable people to lead and unite. Mind you, Ginbot 7 was split int to many pieces. In fact, IA has the spent the last 20 years trying to organised Ethio Opposition. Can we argue, they failed or IA failed them?

          • Mitiku Melesse

            Hei, Devid.
            No, wrong.
            Eritrea has no opposition in its real sens. Opposition doesnt mean to organize demonstration in a foreign country or writing what ever which is not allowed at home.. It is more than that. For deeper understanding what oppositions mean refer to Ethiopians oppositions. Starting at home and engage in a grassroots movement, be part of the sacrifice. Be at the same page with the majority. So far the people at home know that PIA is doing his best and the so called oppositions in nutshell with the western interest first and Eritreans government interest second or shouldnt exist at all. Other wise the people dont have no one to replace PIA and his administration.

            Preaching or demanding American democracy from far away leaving people at home in confusion, and wishing war against Eritrea may bring the so called oppositions marching to Asmara in victory. Guess what the people chose PIA and its party than the selfish opportunist who want only to live in ideal Eritrea where anybody but themselves sacrifice.

            PS. the moderators allowed you to comment without greeting.

      • Mitiku Melesse

        Hei, David.
        Each of your paragraph demands a book to come up with a good reply or comment. Who support the war? Unless I am cheated by the mass media both Eritreans and Ethiopians are for the peace more that word can explain.

        Ethiopia’s or our PM’s call for peace is out of necessity.. We were on the verge on ending up Rwanda like civil war. And if we have a hostile Eritrea in North then the irresponsible racist party by the name tplf could engage Eritrea any time in war when the peace among Ethiopians brings it to accountability. Tplf would anything to avoid the independent investigation against its ruling for the past 27 years.

        Even supporters of tplf have not appreciate the civil war in Ethiopia. They did not believe it was done deliberately by tplf. But if they found out it is a deliberate action then even tplf knows what would be the consequence. The supporters of tplf do not even believe that the economical success of Tigre and tigrians is by pure Tigrians first policy late alone their party plan a civil war among Ethiopians just to stay in power. They believe that their success is because they are hard workers.

        So peace with Eritrea is a must. Plus the reaction of both peoples is beyond expectation. The peace brings more than any one of us expected. Most of all the peace brings in general the best of the majority and in particular best of our leaders. Whe did we see last time such cheerful leaders among us? Only some four weeks ago if any Ethio-Eri would be told what happened exactly now would happened in four week times, people call you crazy or God is making miracle.

        • David Samson

          Selam Mitiku,
          I have few friends who keep asking me if I am “Happy” with the word “Peace”. I am speechless and gasping for oxygen.

    • Fanti Ghana

      Selam Sir Amde,

      There is no glaring alternative to what PMAA is doing. Yes, some are understandably curious regarding the speed decisions are being made, but he sees the last 15+ years as wasted time and he is trying to not waste some more of it.

      A little before last April, there was a decision made to scrap the “refugee” status of all refugees in Ethiopia and integrate them into the society instead. I have a strong expectation that there will be one regional identity card that will allow citizens of the region to work and live any where in the region.

      Every thing PMAA is saying and doing seems headed to that end. If we take the “border” we imagine out of the way, the result technically is “medemer.”

      If somehow that does not happen then the litmus test might be what role he will play to reconcile differences between Eritrean factions. For me personally, it is not a mater of “will he” but “can he.”

      • Amde

        Selam Fanti,

        “A little before last April, there was a decision made to scrap the “refugee” status of all refugees in Ethiopia and integrate them into the society instead. I have a strong expectation that there will be one regional identity card that will allow citizens of the region to work and live any where in the region.”

        This is a rather revolutionary decision, especially in the March/April timeframe when the Ethiopian situation was dicey. You would be the last person I would tell about the sheer number of refugees Ethiopia has been hosting over the years. It means not just Eritreans but also Somalis and Sudanese.

        A regional ID means there are functional institutions within the region who have the processes in place to vouch for the person. It also means a significantly high level of political and operational integration among the governments in the region. Is there reciprocity? Property and business rights? Which laws apply where for what issues?

        I would like you to explain what this means and how this decision came about. Actually it probably needs a whole new article to anchor the discussions.

        Most definitely, within this context, Abiy’s actions seem very consistent with a regional vision.

        Amde

        • Fanti Ghana

          Selam Sir Amde,

          There were talks with the regional states and also with the European union. They all seemed to have agreed with Europe financing some job creating projects in the region their primary interest being “reduction of refugees” of course.

          I am not sure how much of the nitty-gritty of integration the regional powers may have discussed but it seemed they all agreed with the plan. There seems a lot to gain but nothing to lose for all involved, so I don’t see why it shouldn’t be tried.

    • Selam Pillar Amde,

      When validating even a typo can be as catastrophic as a butterfly’s wing flap

      “I think the question of keeping eritrean people’s interest in mind in valid.”

      In validatory and solidation we march.IS the case at hand.

      tSAtSE

      • Amde

        Monsieur ጻጸstic..

        You are indeed correct
        I stand corrected.

  • Ismail AA

    Dear fellow forumers,

    Desperate for help. Is there any friend who knows how to de-activate the annoying two pop-ups that keep on popping up chasing me around the display screen? Am I the only one suffering from them? Please help me to keep them at least at one corner. Thanks in advance.

    • Hameed Al-Arabi

      Dear Ismail AA,

      Go back with your computer to past displays, one week, ten days, ….

    • Haile S.

      Selamat Ismail,
      If you are talking of those that cover the comment section on your right of the computer screen, I use my cellphone (almost allways) and they don’t happen, not enough space. But the comment section is placed further down the screen.

    • Abi

      Hi IsmailAA
      My problem is worse!
      The two pop ups are Abiy and IA popping up like popcorn. They are all over.
      Please advise

      • Mitiku Melesse

        Hei, Abi.
        I used to hate pop-ups but now i’m in love with them. Any app i use to search with Ethio-Eri pop ups with.

    • Tedla

      Selam Ismael,

      If you’re using a Chrome browser:
      1) Go the Settings page (i.e., click the 3 dots lined up vertically, near the right corner and hits Settings from the drop down menu )
      2) On the page that opens up, search for “popups”
      3) One of the search results is Content settings. Click on it to go to Popups page
      4) In the Popups page, slide the switch to block Popups

      In the future, if you want the popups back for some reason (some sites may require them), you can momentarily enable it following a similar procedure.

      Abi:

      You have such a comedic mind that even when people ask for help, you deliver a completely unrelated yet witty remark. I guess you can’t help it … you’re Ali G of sorts. You bring cheer to all of us. Good job.

  • Hameed Al-Arabi

    This year, Isaias watched the collapse of his dreams that he worked for fifty years plus. The first one crumpled when he has seen Osman in Sawakin. The second one, his dream about ruling Ethiopia, was smashed in front of Dr. Abie Ahmed. He has conceived well that Ethiopians will never accept a leader less than Dr. Abie Ahmed in the future. Isaias expressed his frustration by giving leadership to Abie Ahmed. Crowning Isaias by the crowns of Ethiopian kings as a present was just to cool down the broken heart child. I think Dr. Abie Ahmed has read well the Little-Man mind. Isaias game is over.

  • Abraham H.

    Selam Awatistas, I understand PM Abiy’s genuine wish and desire for peace, love, as well as shared prosperity between his country and Eritrea. This is uplifting and worthy of praise, but as I’ve stated before regarding the fanfare we are witnessing, I don’t understand it how PM Abiy thinks regarding the Eritrean people’s participation in this newfound friendship when they are under the strangulation of DIA with whom he is partying?

    • Mitiku Melesse

      Dear Abraham
      Dont we give the benefit of the doubt that the Eritreans peoples also was insecure about the boarder war. And now the war is over and the regime in Eritrea brings change accordingly. Maybe it is time to differentiate the propaganda against PIA and the real problem he is accused of. And the real problem he is accused of must be seen in the circumstances the war and the motives of the war. In short let see what Eritrean government come up with the new peace agreement. A five million people defending its sovereignty agaisnt 100 million is not an easy task with so many variables involved. Now the variable with the hardest solution is solved. And the opposition also come with this forgiveness or at least understanding of the situation. Not to dwell on the past. How to work together to make the prisoners of Eritreans as quickly as possible.

  • Hope

    Abi:
    Blame it on Hope.
    Didn’t I tell u that this was COMING?
    Sure u remember our conversation as u have the BEST memory one can have!
    “ Hope,I never thought this was coming”!
    Courtesy ofvSbinet Ze-Gonder!
    I need to take u to a Pentecostsl Church one Sunday!
    The Lord has his own way of doing things and you can’t blame Him for doing his job!
    Maje sure that what U witnessed in the last two days was not a fake or a made up REVELATION!
    Bit God’s Work!
    Don’t U believe that Dr Abiy is God’s gift like many people testified publically?
    Relax and chilax and let Mother Nature do her job.
    But remember that this has nothing to do what u don’t want to see-Re-Unification of both Sovereign Nations.
    What surprised me is the way the Ethiopians reacted and CELEBRATED it as the way the Eritreans did was expected and a well deserved one as they have been suffocated for 20 yrs.

  • iSem

    Hi Guest:
    No, sir/madam
    You misundesrtood. Saba and I have history so , it is an inside joke
    but thanks for your mild tone
    But how is etan kerbe misogynistic, any one with qulle can use that
    But in this case Saba knows what I mean some readers also do, It is sort of inside joke that was initial for some dig on Ali-Salim then it turned to some between me and Saba

  • saay7

    Selamat Hope:

    Ok, let me engage you line by line because I am feeling generous:)

    1. Your first two lines contradict each other. You can’t accuse the PFDJ of recklessness and then say ” accept” it. And this, “no matter what, regardless how.” In other words, the PFDJ are reckless so let’s not ask them to account for it. Because, after all, that’s what every opposition movement in the world does but we are Eritreans and our opposition should not point out the deadly mistakes which were made.

    Well, then, kind sir, how will they know that they can keep doing it every day since the citizen is always told let’s move on?

    2. The TPLF was whom we negotiated with the Algiers Agreement. The could never have would never have is an extreme lack of confidence in Eritreans ability to negotiate agreements. We are either not talking or, like your president is doing now, delegating them to take care of things and we will follow. Either way, we are always powerless.

    3. You stop complaining about my complaining. It is my right as a citizen to complain. If you want to clap, use your hands, but don’t ask to borrow mine. Clap away, buddy.

    4. I am focusing on how Eritreans can take advantage of this “unexpected positive developments” by keeping the memories of all those who perished as a result of the recklessness you are asking me to stop complaining about. You and I are citizens with equal stake: instead of telling me to call on the government to release political prisoners, why don’t YOU do that, instead of focusing 90% of your attention talking about the opposition which has no power, nothing to do with the recklessness?

    In other words, take your bullet list and talk about them, work on them, fight for them. Instead of teHangwirka tkheyd.

    Besides, reconciliation is not what you think it means. Reconciliation begins with truth. And you call truth-telling “complaining”. And truth-telling to UN and anybody who would listen, you call it driven by outside agenda, etc. So, we are very far apart, friend, and I would appreciate you stop telling people what to do: just do your thing.

    saay

  • Saba

    Dear Abi,
    Tihisho. Your IQ is higher but may be higher only to my IQ:)
    It could be that what PIA is doing is just a red meat to the key bahrachin. And the rest is a symbiotic relationship. But i do not think he will be a president for a longer time. I feel that as soon as the demarcation is ended power will be handed to the people one way or the other.
    Key bahrachin can still continue to dream:)

  • saay7

    Abi:

    Amen, brother.

    One more thing: IA kept calling “Dr Abi” Dr Abi. So what you say. Because he would never extend that courtesy to an Eritrean.

    While you still have influence with your PM, you have to tell him he is making a fool of himself. There is real politik, where you are forced to deal with ogres for the sake of the national interest; and there is what Abi is doing: where he embraces a killer. Life is not always “all of the above” choice: when you embrace a low level Derg functionary, you are upsetting a handful who love and miss their families. When you embrace a tyrant like Isaias, you are telling his victims “who cares.” Again, that’s fine: his choice. But each of this hugs and handholding and his name is Issu, chip away at his moral authority.

    It’s a long message but pass it on Abi.

    saay

    • Abi

      Hi Saay
      I will pass the message to Abi once he is done with the honeymoon. If a ferenge watch this movie Charlie Chaplin style ( no sound) he might take it as a gay wedding .
      The ring, hand holding, hugging,nonstop praising, the nonstop gifts specially the horse to take the bride,….
      ይዟት ይዟት በረረ
      ይዟት በረረ
      Said the Addis ladies yesterday.
      ጉድ ነው !

      • Selam Abi,

        It is said that only in ethiopia one can see two men holding hands while walking in the streets, without any sexual significance to it. It is more of a very good (brotherly) friendship than anything else.

        Our leaders are overdoing it, and we, resident in ‘ferenj hager’ are scratching our heads, and may even end up bald, if this thing continues for too long, or repeated now and then.

        “አይ አበዙት፣”.

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Selam Saay & All,

    This radio broadcast video is a must listen video. In it, beside the analysis of the on going relation between Eritrea and Ethiopia, it also indicate that there were a meeting between Issayas and PM Abiy in Abudabi before their meeting in Asmara and Addis.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YuCGjUBQ6qg

    • Kim Hanna

      Selam Amanuel Hidrat,

      Today I watched a lot of YouTube video to last me for a long time. The reception and the speeches and all the acting and reacting of everybody is hard to explain. It was a brave new world indeed. I could not put my finger on it but at the end I am still uncomfortable about the whole thing. There is nothing wrong with wanting peace, specially after such a long time. The way they are going at it is like a play in a theater. It is unnerving me. I hope the end result of peace they are seeking shows up for the sake of millions.

      Eritrea has a very large army for its size. Large army means a lot of generals and colonels are at their desks. I am sure they see and hear what you and I are seeing and hearing. Does anyone believe all or most of them are applauding the speeches of their president, like some of the Awatistas. I tend to think there must be a proportional representation in the military too who are not pleased. I think both our countries are going through some rough waters. Perhaps we will look back at this period and say all our worries were for nothing.

      I had hoped for sometime that each country address their own immediate problem before taking on mixed bag to deal with. In such a short time so many Trumpian kind of things are happening. Just an observation.

      Mr K.H

      • Ismail AA

        Dear Kim Hanna,

        Your thoughts are sober observations of an informed mind. I can assure you that they are not a reflection of a passerby, I can detect an aware mind that discerns where lines that separate public relations from policy related politics ought to be drawn.

        So, you are absolutely right not all in Eritrea are dancing to the tune of Dr. Abiy-Isayas music and self-exposing hugs, handshakes and sentimental promises and counter promises. No matter how far Isayas can act as absolute dictator, there are limits to the extent he can go. Of course this is hard to be appreciated by souls who have sold their faculties of making free or considered judgements to the will of their hero.

        But if all adventures would boil down to tampering with what the Eritrean people consider sacred, a totally new story would begin to be written. It was so in the past, and the present and the future would not be different. In few words, thus, anything could be tolerated save supreme national interest: sovereignty on land, sea and air is not a game available to satiate whims and egos of any creature. It is so with any self-respecting people anywhere, and cannot be different with Eritreans. The soil of land is till wet with blood and sweet.

    • Selam Ayya AH,

      Very interesting talk and early indications that will test the sincerity of Ethiopian Free Press influence on our Eritrea’s real matters. I have a feeling I will be fluent in Amharic by year’s end.
      kabb Awate’s Gashe Abi Dabo Dabo first, second, third and last ykhdennenna.

      tSAtSE

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Solomon (tSAtSE),

        Could you tell to PM Abiy of Ethiopia, that the complex politics of the Horn requires a “BODMAS” way of algebraic resolution as oppose to a simple addition (medemer).

  • @george

    Dear all

    Amanel hidrat woyan worshipper and Shifty Sal, have

    “woyane had the same plan” but, but, but woyane said the same thing…ha ha ha…this is like guy coming you and saying

    Go ahead and pet the cobra, he is harmless, he is just animal that happens to be a SNAKE.

    Get real, who you think you are fooling?. Find another fool to play with.

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam George,

      እቲ ግምጥልጥል ዘረባ’ኳ ባህርያትካ ምኻኑ ተገንዚብናዮ አሎና:: ንሓንሳብ nationalist ትገብረኒ ንሓንሳብ እቲ ምጎትካ እግሪ ምስ ሰአነ ከአ wayane ትገብረኒ::

      ዝኾነ ኾይኑ እቲ ጣኦትካ ኢሳያስ: ብጋዜጠኛታት “ሕውየት”: አብ ከባቢ 94 ብዛዕባ ነቲ ዝግበር ዝነበረ አብ መንጎ ኤርትራን ኢትዮጵያን ዝምድና አመልኪቶም አብ ዝሓተትዎ: ከምዚ ክብል መልሲ’ኮ ሂብዎም እዩ:: እዚ ዝኸይድ ዘሎ ዝምድና እንተ ደለኹም ፌዴሬሽን በልዎ: ወይ ኮንፌዴሬሽን በልዎ: እዚ ዝምድናዚ ናብ ዶብ ዘየብሉ ብርካ ክዓቢ እዩ:: ስለዚ እዚ ሕጂ ክካየድ እዪ ዝበሃል ዝምድና ከአ; ክልተ ህዝቢ አይኮናን: ሓደ ህዝቢ ኢና እንዳተባህለ ዝኽየድ ዘሎ: ካብቲ ናይ 94 ብዓይነት ይኹን ብዕላማ እንታይ ይፈልዮ? unless ናይ ፓለቲካን ትሕዝቶ ውዕላትን አወዳድንኦም: እንዶ ዘየብልካ እንተዘይ ኮይንካ:: ሕጀውን እንተኾነ እተን “five points” and “five pillars” are the same in contents and in purposes:: ኣይኮናን ዝበሃል እንተደአ ኮይኑ ኸአ you could show their differences by making compare and contrast in their contents and their purposes.

      • Hope

        Selam Aman:
        Let PIA day whatever he wants to say but at the end of the day,Eritreans are the sole owners of their destiny when it comes to this serious Sovereignty business and this business has nothing to do with PIA Dictatorship for the last 20 yrs.
        So,please stop this unconstructive mantra.
        As far as the Five Pillars vs The Five Points issue is concerned,what matters is that Peace has prevailed and our border shall be demarcated.
        But we all know that the TOLF Style Of Peace Process was totally different from the current approach!
        You can’t bad apples with oranges.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Hope,

          You should tell to the individuals who are telling you lies to stop when in fact the “five points” and “five pillars” are the same, to exonerate themselves form their lies and their policy all these years, that costed us the lives of our youth.

    • Kokhob Selam

      Dear @george,

      What Amanel Hidrat is doing so far is very Important in our case,in the advantage of our journey..And sure you will get him very revolutionary gentle man over all of us here..Look at his articles and comments and you will not find a single mistake as far me concern…And I think you will also find him to be the best.. among us all…

      KS,,

      • Natom Habom

        selam kokobe
        maybe he got the scrypt from mekele or he like to sing what you like to hear

        • Kokhob Selam

          Dear Natom Habom ..

          You are not really understanding what is the past story of Aman and me that, we both had against fought those two fronts (TPLF and EPLF)..who were holding the power in both nations,,TPLF manages to lead Ethiopia joined the other party who were against Derg while EPLF change to PFDJ which is illegal became more narrow and let us all suffer.

          Now. we are watching more peace call from Ethiopian side after the arrival of this Dr.Abiy which may materialized or fail we are in cross road both people in this case.

          So tell us which is your stand ? As Natom Habom watch and decide which stand you have got to get…

          KS..

          • Natom Habom

            selam kokobe
            didnt join pfdj but thinking ,anyaway I stand for a unifie Eritrea strong and developed with the people living in harmony and peace ,I dont like politician they live in a dream they will do this they will that but it all fake ,Eritrea need to heel ,after 30 years none in Eritrea took enough rest and enjoy life even the leader that the woyane declared war and they mobilize again to save their hard won country ,and am impressed how a new country manage mobolize ,organize ,with what it have as new country and kept a fonctioning government , even after sanction was imposed ,isolation ,media difamation Ethiopian treat and assault everyone assuring the collapse imminent ,look then who is collapsing in the other side they fail to see the reality ,they reported to the world that eritrean are bunkrupt and desperate where there is courage and determination and will not compromise with anyone ,
            look at south sudan with all the weilth they have and yet UN called for an election before the state was built and its a desaster that would have happen if eritrea had election at time an now .
            I stand for Eritrea stable and strong and only the pfdj can keep eritrea safe in this time of uncertainty no one else ,I can assure that 100%

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Natom Habom ..

            “,I dont like politician they live in a dream they will do this they will that but it all fake ,”

            Now, then what are you doing? Aren’t you directly or indirectly participating?

            KS,,

          • Natom Habom

            selam kokobe
            yes to keep away the hyena that wont to enter eritrea
            claiming they are politician ,I used to believe them too
            great mistake ,you cannot built a country with anger and revenche

  • saay7

    @george:

    Shifty? I think you need my Cuz Gheteb to help you with the meaning of words. One day: Walls! Final & Binding! the next day: We are one people! One country! Now THAT’s shifty. But when you don’t know what to think of it and then make a call so people can tell you what to think? That’s @george. George of the Jungle.

    Ok, now. Let’s ask you a question, Mr Multi Dimensional Chess Player.

    Since you are this tough guy who was willing to have Eritrea pay a heavy price for 16 years to teach Weyane a lesson etc etc, how did you personally bear the burden of this heavy price? Did you carry arms and guard the borders? Did you pay human traffickers to smuggle you? Did you nearly drown at the Mediterranean? Were you torturer in the Sinai? Did you get arrested and locked up in underground prisons? Did you have your money confiscated and were you told to withdraw them with government’s permission? What is the price you paid, @george?
    I already know the price paid by all the F&B loudmouths here–nothing, nada, zilch–but since you are new, please tell us what you paid?

    saay

    • @george

      Dear saay

      1. I paid nothing. But you may not remember it but you wrote a eulogy about it 1999 june 11…

      • saay7

        Selamat @george:

        How could I write in 1999 about the years 2002-2018?

        And there is a word for people who never pay, but demand that others pay a heavy, heavy price.

        saay

  • iSem

    hi Blink:
    what did I say about the Eri song, that lies
    recite what I said and I will help u with what I said
    Though uselss, pleas no no threats,

    • Blink

      Dear isem
      Trust me I am not one of these people who wire threats . After all I have been telling you that I have never been to Eritrea for almost 15 years and you are not that bad to get threats from PFDJ scoop. Now how do I know you are not one of them , well I am wishing because I am always optimistic person. Now , you better say the things you said about Eritrean national Anthem because I really don’t wanted people to think I keep things for references , your god forbid that you can not repeat what you said . Enjoy the Canadian summer because who knows.

      • iSem

        Blink:
        No matter what u say, I sense your threat here too so cut it
        Now tell me what I said about IA anthem that was not true, do not worry do not copy and paste, just use ur memory then I wil help u
        My comments are open sir and I know stooges, mercenaries save it, I open it so ppl can read it in the future, and Gheteb and Semere T and Nitricc and others also open it, but they will come a time when it will be their shame,
        Mine, of course as Sal once told me there are testestorne driven comments, that not were my best, moments of human folly but what side I was will make me proud and u sir, history will judge by ur comments: “there once lived a commenter in awate.com, by the nick name Blink and his comments still blink but they were lanaganga, non principled, flowing with the wind like what the farmers from ancient time did with their harvest. This may well be ur epitaph
        now go ahead what did I say and do u have any thing to debate what IA is? is it good for Eri or is it good him, I may change ur epitaph if in a rare moment of honesty and integrity u tell the truth

        • Blink

          Dear isem
          For me DIA has been always the same , working forever to guard his own views and that can be seen from different perspective but at this moment I am hoping the Eritrean people to get their share . It is not a bad hope Semere Andom , feel the aroma and tell me what do you think a mother of 3 waiting from this news ? And what does her husband think ? I would like to be optmistic for her .I do not expect Issaias to get himself a prison cell because I am releastic and not militaristic person. I hope you understand.

          • iSem

            Blink: Nice try, I have bad news for ur logic and here it is absorb it
            Please: I have said it, this is the lowest hanging fruit and I have said it before, there is the byproducts of IA’s peace and that is no Eritrea will die in a war with Ethiopia and Eritrea, good thing. Problem is the same kid will die in an other was that IA will ignite could be with SA who knows. In the absence of rule of law, the same kids spare from Ethio war they will die some were else and the rule of law and respect of human right, those who are treated like rants in dungeons will not benefit from this because rule of law, its implementation is nor related to the lack of peace, it is a choice that IA made
            So Mr.Optimism where does u drive ur optimism from, the thin air. You can be optimistic but please do not tell us this peace that IA is signing on his own, like his own house, nay, even when selling ur own house you consul the wife and the kids. So, any more penetrating , sense making arguments Blinkay?

  • iSem

    Hi Dawit:
    I have an answer to every question u asked:-)
    But which dawit is this, Dawit, the artists, or dawit with little d whose mantra is who ever seizes power is my king. The answer will depend on which one your are, This is called ምትዕጽጻፍ ምልውዋይ

  • iSem

    Abi:
    brevity: encapsulating comples ideas in one liners and when one reads it again conveys different meaning is the hall mark of high IQ. So no Sir

  • saay7

    @geoege:

    The past 16 Years (no war no peace) was worse than what they did in 1998-2000 (horrific war)?

    Eritrea is negotiating with Ethiopia on how to demarcate the land and how the Ethiopian soldiers can move, and on how to do land swaps to accommodate Eritreans and Ethiopians who live on either side of the border. As allowed by EEBC, as requested by Ethiopia. But your gang doesn’t do anything on time, and without paying an unacceptably high cost for it.

    The sooner you deal with that, the more prepared you will be when your government forces you to take another pill. Although judging from your posts of Isaias in Addis you appear to be another very malleable cult member so, forget I said they. Just wait for IA to tell you what you saw and heard. You are my favorite 🐘. Much love!

    saay

  • @george

    Dear dawit

    don’t wait for anybody to lead you or tell you what to do, go ahead and do something. Send a solar panel to one of your family members. Send them a wind turbine. Send them a digital book. Get a flash drive and record business idea and send it to them. Next time you go to a meeting make sure they listen to you and create high-speed internet so we can talk to our family we can see their face in a video. Do not let them go without asking you pushing him to change something.

  • saay7

    @george:

    You negotate peace with your enemies, Einstein. The Algiers Agreement and all its final and binding was negotiated with TPLF.

    saay

    • Desbele

      Hi Saay,
      ገርግስን ኣንገላታከው ።ፎጣ የሚወረውርለት ጠፋ።
      What a patience! Cant you just ignore Faustians and write us a good article?!

  • saay7

    Hi Abi:

    This @george dude is so slow he actually thinks Blink, a Weyane-despising F& B dead-ender like him, is Ethiopian. 😀

    They say when Haile Selasse was recruiting Eritreans for his commando unit, there was an IQ test and he only enlisted those who failed. As a long-term Awatists, if you take a look at all those who are loud supporters of Isaias Afwerki, the true believers, what do you observe?

    saay

    • Abi

      Hi Saay
      If @george thinks Blink is an Ethiopian, slow doesn’t begin to describe him. In Amharic we call him ነሆለል።
      He takes the cake .
      The loud IA supporters? ” Monkey see monkey do ” is the phrase that comes to mind.

      I have never expected myself to be this confused by the whole thing.
      I hope this train has emergency brakes. Brakes like many brakes . And the train was supposed to be local. What is the train doing crossing the border.
      I’m confused. I’m not joking for a change.
      You think I’m being george like slow @george?

      • saay7

        Abi:

        Hahahaha. The train will be stopped, trust me on that. It will slow down and it will be inspected to ensure the conductor is not drunk, and the hangers on have paid for their fares.

        We already have one Agazian movement; we don’t need two.

        There are “monkey see, monkey do” and then there are “monkeys who call monkeys to confirm what they see before they do”. That is Slow George:)

        This is the first World Cup I didn’t pay 100% attention to, with your PM leading his flock in “Issu” chants. Does your PM know we have many, many nicknames for Isaias besides Issu?

        saay

  • saay7

    Hey slow @george:)

    Were these things you listed in either plan? 😂

    saay

    • @george

      Dear saay

      No, bonus that came was ignoring tplf.

      • saay7

        Selamat @george:

        So you held Eritrea hostage for a moqshish? It was worth it to see half a million people leave the country if it meant Weyane leaves power in Arat Kilo?

        Btw, how are you enjoying your One Peopleness. One people, except for people who are in adjacent areas 😂

        saay

  • saay7

    Peace:

    You have to remember that @george is, notwithstanding his pretentious and aggression, super slow and you have to type really slow for him and say “are you following me so far” often. Like this:

    (a) Thousands of Eritreans died in the hands of Eritrean military officials
    Following me so far?
    (b) these military officials report to and send direct reports of what transpired to their commanding officers
    Follow me so far?
    (C) these commanding officers report to Isaias Afwerki, which is why he is called the chief commanding officer.
    (Snap fingers and say : wake up, tortoise.)

    Then he will say, “what do you mean died in the hands of the regime officials? Did they like strangle them?”

    Then you repeat that process slowly again. Got it, Peace?

    ✌️

    Saay

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Saay,

      That is how we make the “tortoises” to follow the events. Ouch! You are the only person who have patience to do that. By the didn’t they get the rabbits to ride (courtesy to SG’s video).

  • Mitiku Melesse

    Hei.
    These two leaders of ours surprised all of us including the ill wisher too. What the ill wisher expected was that PIA will make declaration of war on tplf. But the leaders have a very deep message to each and every one who are matured enough to understand. What they said was that the path that choosen in 1991 was wrong. How could we avoid such path. And how to respect our peoples. Isaias made his speech in amharic to underline the message to the crowd.

    One more important thing is that Isu has understood the different rolls as revolutionist and leader. He could have done in 1991 what he has done these tow last weeks. But leading a country needs practice. And it needs more practice when you lead a country you separated by force. Isu and Abyi know it is not God who created Eritrea or Ethiopia. If there was no Suez Canal God knows where Italia chopped us. So as long as these same peoples in two different countries when we fight we kill ourselves just because some body give us the tag Eritrea or Ethiopia. The two leaders have seen this and thought deeply.

  • Peace!

    @george,

    Wow, I thought George was your nick name. I was wong:)

    Peace!

    • @george

      Dear peace

      I am unpaid pia troll, hoping a discount to get a discount on my 2%…

  • ‘Gheteb

    Ethiopia’s Troops Vacating From Occupied Eritrean Territories?

    Greetings!!

    According to a Bloomberg report,

    ” The Ethiopian army pledged to move its troops stationed at areas bordering Eritrea, the Deputy Chief of Staff Berhanu Jula said. Berhanu attended June 26 peace talks with an Eritrean delegation that flew into Addis Ababa for the first round of peace talks”.

    ” Ethiopian Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed said he would take action against those who may seek to block a peace declaration with Eritrea’s President Isaias Afwerki, as Ethiopia’s army awaits instructions on troop withdrawals from border areas”.

    “Moving military forces stationed in border areas in the Ethiopian regions of Afar and Tigray is not the decision of the military, but the government,” said Berhanu, who heads military operations.

    “If the government communicated with the Eritrean government and decided to remove the army from the border area, the army will remove them,” according to the state-owned newspaper Addis Zemen.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-07-15/ethiopian-eritrean-leaders-vow-to-safeguard-peace-treaty

    Surely but slowly, The Five Pillars of The Ethio-Eritrean Peace Deal will be IMPLEMENTED.

    Eritrea’s borders will be physically DEMARCATED!

    • saay7

      Cuz Gheteb:

      Slowly but surely and AFTER negotiations between Eritrean and Ethiopian government officials.

      That is: the Five Pillar is the Five Point Plan, only 16 years older. Going at gobye pace.

      saay

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Saay,

        There is absolutely no difference between the “five points” and “five pillars” in substance and purpose in these agreements, except changing the word “points” to “Pillars”. By the way, the so called forthcoming economic integration will not also by any means, different than the deal they made between Issayas and Meles in the 90s before they let at lock their horns, that lead us to a senseless war. The new mix to it is only the rhetorics of “peace and love” that moves to the public. Otherwise, the substance of the political ingredients and the policy remains the same, until we see the moves on the ground. So the bases of your arguments not only are plausible but also are factual.

        Regard

    • Hayat Adem

      Gheteb,
      Well, the two leaders are not saying anything about it. UN is not hearing or saying about it. Instead, we have been hearing “one people, one leader for both, Assab”.
      Yours is funny…
      1. Deputy Chief of Staff gives an interview to a local paper, reportedly saying if PM ordered the army to pull back, they would
      2. You elevated thas to this: “Ethiopia’s Troops Vacating From Occupied Eritrean Territories?”
      3. You again re-elevated it even more to this:”Eritrea’s borders will be physically DEMARCATED!”
      4. Then, you celebrated it alone and yourself!
      Yey!
      PIA is learning Amharic. What is the Amharic version of “dobatna tirgum albo kikhonu iyom..”

      • saay7

        Hayat:

        But even if everything Gheteb said is precise and accurate:

        1. Ethiopia and Eritrean officials are negotiating while Ethiopian soldiers still occupy sovereign Eritrean land (put the last three words in caps for the benefit of the F & B crowd) when he and all hgdefites were screaming it would never ever ever ever happen.

        And since this is precisely what the Ethiopian government asked for, and since this is precisely what they are doing now, 16 Years later, they have to redefine what the objection was: well we didn’t mind negotiating with an Oromo led government (a government we didn’t have the slightest clue was coming); we had a problem with a Tigrayan led government. If they have a problem with the Oromo led government (and they will, matter of time), it will be well, we want an Amhara led government.

        saay

        • Rule of Law

          saay7
          What do you mean by “we didn’t mind negotiating with Oromo-led government?” You seem to insinuate as though you are an active broker representing the Eritrean regime but I didn’t think this was remotely possible given the fact that you are a dissident and an awate moderator, at that. Secondly, attempting to divide the Ethiopian regime based on ethnic lines is an outmoded TPLF doctrine that has just been buried. You may be the last person to be convinced of the new and united Ethiopia where there shall no longer be Oromo-led or Tigrean-led government but an Ethiopian government. Third, you are being a false prophet in the way you are predicting that “they will have a problem with an Oromo-led government” Who are they and who is it “that want an Amhara-led government?” It’s amazing that everyone with internet connection wants to be a king maker.

          • saay7

            Selamat Rule of Law:

            We. As in Eritreans.

            The “attempting to divide Ethiopian regime based on ethnic lines” is what PFDJ did: it rejected an offer given by the Tigrayan TPLF; it accepted the exact same deal when it was given by the Oromo led OPDO.

            Third, IA will have a problem with anyone because it is in his nature to have a problem with anyone. He can’t help it. He has a long public life; the fact that you refuse to give it a blind eye doesn’t make it go away.

            saay

          • Rule of Law

            Saay7
            I beg to differ that “PFDJ divided Ethiopian regime based on ethnic lines” I also refute the notion that PFDJ rejected an offer by the TPLF but accepted the very same deal from OPDO. The five point roadmap that Meles Zenawi devised was a blunder intended for diplomatic consumption. Item number 3 in particular of the so called roadmap which says “Etiopia accepts in principle, the Ethiopia-Eritrea boundary commission ruling” was a no ‘no strings attached’ initiative PFDJ was asking a non conditional surrender of the areas awarded to it by the boundary commission while the TPLF dragged its feet and came up with the five point roadmap, which in reality is a roadblock in the way of lasting peace. Especially the term “in principle” meant that the TPLFites were not ready to surrender the land without a considerable concession from PFDJ in order to save their face from the people of Tigrai; and this was an insult to Isayas Afewerki’s intelligence. Meles zenawi was a pathological liar, who promised time and again to abide by the ruling only to back off once the ruling turned in PFDJ’s favor. Dr. Abiy on the other hand, never attempted to modify the map as ‘is’ drawn by the demarcation commision. He just went to Asmara with words love and compassion and finished his tour with flying colors. Now the TPLF is left to lick its wound quietly and is in a submissive mode being told by the godfather “game over” I really like that “game over”

          • saay7

            Rule of Law:

            Ok, now we are talking.

            The Five Point Plan said “we agree in principle” but then finish the rest of that sentence: on how to implement the EEBC in a way that disrupts the lives of as few of our people as possible. It was saying, “instead of trying to score maximum political points by saying, “get out of Badme, we won”, you and I know that there are Eritreans whose land has been given to us, and there are Ethiopians whose lands have been given to you. So, let’s talk about that.

            Eritrea said, “NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, a thousand times NO. Get out, get out get out , get out NOW, NOW, NOW, NOW.” Not only that, for 16 years it told a puzzled international community, “Force them to get out! Get them out! Get them out! Otherwise we are going to refuse to implement our constitution! Force them out otherwise we will have indefinite conscription! Force them out or our people will be leaving by the tens of thousands.”

            The international community just shook its head at their imebcility.

            Then, 16 years later, they are doing exactly what they were being asked to do, what they refused to do. They are negotiating while Ethiopia STILL occupies Eritrean land. They are prioritizing other things–normalization, securitization–before demarcation. And I will bet you my last dime, that there will be negotiations and there will be land swap.

            The problem was, the priority of Eritreans was never PFDJ’s, nor yours. It was always about defeating TPLF: that was the alpha and the omega for you. Even if, by the time you are having your celebration, the only one joining you are those who also hate the TPLF with burning intensity.

            saay

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Saay,

            There is no like PFDJ that plays on Ethnicity. Don’t see the written print the so called political program. አቦታት አዴታት ንሕና ኢና ደቅኹም እንዳበሉ ዝውድቡ ከመይ ኢሎም እዮም’ሞ ካብ ኢትኒካዊ ሕማም ነጻ ክኾኑ::

          • Hope

            Selam Vet Aman Hidrat:
            This sounds like Tsemam hanti Derfu!
            FYI :
            We are in 2018,not in 1970s.

          • Rule of Law

            Dear Saay7
            There is a video of Meles Zenawi on youtube that seems to back your version of events that led to the stalemate of the implementation of the border demarcation especially in matters that concern the fate of the people on both sides of the border that the physical demarcation would have put at risk of losing their rightful ancestral/sentimental land. I concede that this particular case may have been legitimate; however, this was not all that the TPLF regime was asking for. They asked for normalization of bilateral relations and also ongoing negotiations to address relevant issues. Bear in mind that I have heard both Meles and Isayas saying that “the war had nothing to do with badme” and this tells me that there was a underlying animosity between PIA and the TPLF steming from conflict of interest which had something to do with currency and so forth during the divorce proceedings of “Eri-exit” Then, how is it possible that the Ethiopian regime put ‘normalization of relations’ as one of the conditions before accepting the ruling? In a normal circumstance, PIA should not have been forced to agree to this type of unfair conditions. You said that I am focused on the downfall of the TPLF: Good observation here! Nothing can be achieved unless these wolves are totally eliminated out of the political arena. Look how they have monopolized the economy and the entire political regime with their salacious method of sabotage on freedom and democracy for the last 27 years. Over 80 thousand prisoners freed from known prisons. Not to mention the “Eeraeero” type dungeons, in which dissidents are still kept unbeknown to the central government. BTW your last paragraph was a bit flawed. The notion that Eritrean media disclosed the ethnicity of defecting Ethiopian soldiers does not necessarily exhibit that the PIA maintained a doctrine of ‘divide and rule’ policy over Ethiopia for it is a customary practice to document the date and birthplace of defecting soldiers for record-keeping purposes. Defecting Eritrean soldiers also undergo similar process on opposite side of the border; so if we are to say that the Ethio regime is pursuing a divide and rule policy on Eritrea, would be a poor line of argument. Indeed, a pure ‘coincidence’ I don’t think PFDJ can do anything If tomorrow, the Ethiopian regime decides to dismantle the divisive ethnic federalism and go back to the old centralized method of governance.

          • Hope

            Selam Rule of Law:
            If you listen to the former PM Tamrat Layne thru his interview with the SBS RADIO last week,you will get most of the answers.

          • Rule of Law

            Greetings Hope
            Will search for the video although there is nothing new about the subject.

        • Blink

          Dear saay
          Aren’t you Eritrean any more, why all this ? I mean the poor souls across the border need a break . They need their sons and daughters to go school and have a life , aren’t you fighting for them ? Are you guys getting the Issaias disease of big ego ? Of course I am pointing my finger at your horrible wish or prediction.

          You said “If they have a problem with the Oromo led government (and they will, matter of time), it will be well, we want an Amhara led government.”

          That’s not from saay , that’s simply unfortunate and unforgettable. Yet the fight for justice goes on but not by wishing horrible things .

          • saay7

            Blink:

            There is a big difference between predicting a thief will steal. and a killer at large will kill, and actually wishing he will. If you don’t know the difference between these two, I am sorry but I can’t help.

            The solution is to work hard to make sure that the murderer is locked up and the thief is rehabilitated.

            I am fighting for the people many of you seem to have forgotten in the song and dance: there are Eritreans right now, in torture chambers and underground prisons. And your wish and prayers, coming from an atheist, is not going to help them.

            And I resent your “aren’t you Eritrean…”. I am not the one cheering the “we are one people, two countries” BS. You are.

            saay

          • Saleh Johar

            Ahlan Saay,

            I casually passed it when Tsatse called you “Captain”.
            And I am amazed at how true that is, particularly when it comes to the Ethio-Eritrean issue that has become so overwhelmingly revealing. I am also amazed when I see people trying to challenge you on this respect– I never saw a deckhand, or a cargo hold attendant in a ship, arguing with the captain over the navigation map of the ship. Thank you for making the job of the rest of us much easier by employing the best tools in a political debate.

          • iSem

            Saleh: That is why I am contemplating retiring from commenting because no value I can add at all. Thank you

          • saay7

            Abu Selah:

            Why are you demoting me: he calls me Admiral:)

            Anyway, where were you yesterday when my hair was on fire like George Tenet before 9/11 on the day that Isaias Afwerki essentially adopted the Agazian platform?

            But seriously, thanks. These have been very edifying days, my brother.

            Saay

          • Blink

            Dear saay
            I would be very happy if you predict the killer will get killed or will be dead by then . That would make my feelings better sir , because one killer person dying is a blessing for the public. But to predict he will still have time again to make Eritreans life messy is not from you saay . Where is the good God you guys told us day and night, can’ he do something? Do we have to wait until he find an Amhara nicer guy than Abiy ? Give us a break we have been bleeding since when , I don’t know, I wasn’t even born .

          • saay7

            Selam Blink

            I wish I could believe you. I want to believe you. But since Eritrea’s problem is 90%+ caused by Isaias and since your posts here are 90%+ focused on the Opposition, Weyane, religious leaders, I do not believe you. Nothing personal: I just judge people by what they do, and where their priorities are.

            saay

          • Blink

            Dear saay
            Do you think I care about what you believe and what you do? No , I don’t and I don’t comment here in order for you to believe me that I oppose Issaias. Are you becoming one of these known guys who said “ if you don’t say such and such you are not in the opposition camp ? If so you better change because you are 100% wrong about what I do to oppose the dictator. But yes I am not one of these with big Ego that says Tinfer ember Tel ya , just saying you will live in good things after your death, that’s is a joke for me .Opposition ? There’s many forms of opposition .
            Eritrea is equally good to everyone and everyone has his opinion in finding justice but to wish the bad things will continue because the man will stay to find another nice from Amhara after this horrible years don’t make you good either.

          • saay7

            Blink:

            I know, buddy. And my opinion should mean nothing and you are free to say what you say. I am just trying to do you a favor that your once-in-a-blue-moon “I hate Isaias” with non-stop “I hate the opposition! I hate Weyane! I hate God! I hate religious people!” tells me what your priorities are and they are not mine. Lekum deenekum weliye deen, as the Good Book says.

            saay

          • Ismail AA

            Dear saay7,

            I take the liberty to add to your list the refugee who are still waiting with house keys hanging on the walls of their derelict plastic cottages and straw huts in wretched camps in Sudan, Yemen and Djibouti who are there neglected since long before some of the loud regime apologists were born. I admire your patience and energy trying to educate the misinformed.

          • saay7

            Ismail:

            Thank you so much Ismail. And shame on me for forgetting the biggest blot in the history of PFDJ and its chief. It so happens over the weekend I saw a presentation on fundraising efforts to dig wells for water to drink for these long suffering people. And our sister Zebiba has written a book on her successful efforts to open a girls high school. In a refugee camp. In Sudan. Twenty frigging seven years after Eritrea’s Independence and the Reign of His Terribleness.

            saay

          • Kokhob Selam

            To those interested about the above book,

            “Zebiba Shekhia was in the health care industry by profession and owner of the business. Thereafter, she volunteered for an organization for a year and a half working throughout Asia where her next career was defined by such an intensive experience. When she returned to the United States she founded Healing Bridges where she has been helping children and mothers from East Africa by serving as a bridge that would find sponsors throughout the United States. The Healing Bridges program has been sponsoring the unfortunate children in a war torn African country named Eritrea. Their primary focus is to create jobs, for these women so that they can support themselves and their families, many of which have lost men in the war. They know first hand that Africans don?t want charity, they want trade. Africa has lost 7 percent of world trade since the 1970’s. If they could regain, 1 percent of that, they would earn $70 billion a year. Zebiba wants to come to the aid of her country women. “”Their talents are in their hands; their skills at weaving and organizing, make clothing manufacturing a perfect fit for bringing jobs and industry to Eritrea.”” A successful business owner in Los Angeles for over 20 years now, Zebiba is confident that with the help of others who have a similar mission to give back; Healing Bridges’ newest project will be a big success. Contribution to the Healing Bridges Program will be used to train Eritrean women to sew and manufacture garments in factories in Africa. Eritreans are a proud and dignified people who want to work, and dream of a way to control their own destiny. Healing Bridges wants to take the old adage “”Give a person a fish, and they eat today, teach them to fish and they eat for a lifetime””: to the next level.”

          • iSem

            Sal:
            please go ahead blush, ignore, pooh-pooh this comment as I will flatter you, “smarmily” as cuzies cus Gehteb (not Gheteb) would say He likes his adverbs as adding l to modify a verb
            I profusely admire your laser focus on the suffering on those who are on the dungeons even underground the where Abiye and Fatingaye ( my Fatinga) were hugging (do not ask for source, this is not a paper) there are Eritreans who have not seen the light of the day in decades
            So peace, trade, flight to Asmara free movement for those who are already free, more water for those who already have water is nothing if it does not address the 1000 courages Eritreans who told COI their suffering and their rape and the heinous crimes against the Erirean person. the horror stories of their organ trafficking
            We will remember both Gehteb when it united the 3 separates armies, we will remember its corrupted version Gheteb who instead of unites canonizes IA’ action, ignores the lost opportunities, ignores the fact that nothing has changed except the moods of IA and an Oromo PM instead of Tigray PM or Southern PM
            So sir, I admire the energy u are expending to focus us on the plight of the voiceless

          • saay7

            iSem:

            Thanks buddy. Sometimes , like yesterday, I do feel people have lost their collective mind.

            Last thing I will see is a tweet by Eritrean ambassador to Kenya. The guy always writes like he is petitioning for his job. And he is writing to congratulate the “Dear Leader” for having his dream of liberating Ethiopians realized. And this is why, he continued, Ethiopians and Eritreans who are liberated (yep, you heard right) are saying “congratulations to you our great leader.”

            Is there a worm hole and all the crazies fell in?

            saay

          • SA

            Saay,
            You are a humane writer and intellectual. That is more important than being an Eritrean – whatever an Eritrean means.
            SA

          • Saba

            Dear Blink,
            TPLF was using Asab port for free. Then TPLF declared war to fulfill their agenda. PIA could not negotiate with TPLF because they were not reliable or credible. So IA was waiting for a reliable negotiator all these 16 years. It is as simple as that and those with high IQ are pretending not to understand that.

          • Saleh Johar

            Hello Saba,

            Those with high IQ, though lesser than yours, also know your assertion is not true.
            I know (as in know first hand) the Ethiopians (it was not TPLF that was using Assab) were paying port dues and handling fees. The importers and exporters paid transportation, customs, storage and demurrage, and other dues. The shipping agents paid berthing fee, piloting fees, clearance fees and other usual expenses. Could it be that those with higher IQ are trying to hoodwink the rest 🙂

            BTW, do you know how ports operate, ship handling or ship chandling? Or have you been in a port at all?

          • @george

            Dear sj

            At that time Ethiopia =TPLF….i am sure tplf paid as you stated but was much cheaper than any where they can get it.

          • Saleh Johar

            @george,
            The people I am talking about were not TPLF but business people. Cheap compared to what? It was at par with Djibouti though there was a competition to attract businesses from both sides,, importers and exporters made choices. But first, you should retract your earlier claim for me to continue. Because continuing chasing a wrong premise is futile. One more thing: I can confidently say your knowledge about the topic is very poor. Stick to stuff you know, just a suggestion.

          • saay7

            Abu Selah:

            “Stick to stuff you know.” 🙂 🙂 But, Abu Selah, he doesn’t know much about anything. It’s like that old song “don’t know much about biology…don’t know much about history….” But, like a true Isaiasists, he compensates for it with extreme aggression. Because knowledge is not valued in PDFJ, aggression is which is equated with patriotism.

            saay

          • @george

            Dear sj

            That’s why Ethiopia is crying to use our port. You said you know about it, why? Because you throw some words that sound like you know about port.

          • Saleh Johar

            @grorge,
            Not so fast my dear–how about five years experience in shipping, port operations, customs, and representing the agents as a boarding officer–which means sailing on tugboats at least 20 miles each day, sometimes in rough seas, boarding 50,000 ton tankers and ships of different kinds, particularly when they are in ballast (sometimes almost empty), and soar about 15 meters over the sea surface), and you have to climb to the deck on Jacob’s ladder (rope-ladder) and sail back to port.

            But as usual, some people do not recognize anything, stubborn and do not yield. They would rather display their ignorance.

            Thank you for the opportunity: 1) to boast about my knowledge of the subject, and, 2) to explain to you that it is important to refrain from making statements on issues you do not know anything about– because you risk someone taking you to task and you will look like a fool and be embarrassed.

            My dear, I never talk about issues that I do not know. That I can assure you. But when some people debate topics they have no clue about, and I happen to know it, I say, e-gebeyka babur! I also know that expression; I suspect you will need a translation 🙂 Enough of that now, my dear.

          • Abraham H.

            Selam SGJ, I think there was the added benefit to Ethiopia when using the Eritrean ports relative to Djibouti in the 90’s. If I’m not wrong, port transactions in Eritrea were done in the Ethiopian (and Eritrean, at that time) currency Birr. While with Djibouti it was with hard currency.

          • Hayat Adem

            Dear Abraham,
            It started cheap but it quickly went up and became close or about the same with that of Djibouti. The types of payments were named differently. For example, while port rent prices were less on Assab and higher in Djibouti, docking prices was higher on Assab, etc. Remember, 90% of Ethiopia’s traffic was through Assab. So, whatever amount of price rediscovery makes a huge difference in the total amount of revenue Eritrea was making out of it.
            The currency issue: Yes, Ethiopia was paying Eritrea in Birr up until Nakfa print date because Eritrea was using Birr. Afterwards, meaning since Nakfa, all transactions were in dollars.
            The other point you might be interested to remember, I guess, is about the Assab Refinery Plant. The ownership of that refinery was not transferred to Eritrea after separation. Ethiopia continued to own it. (“operate” would be the right word insted of “own”. Ethiopia was buying crude oil in hard currency from outside, refined it there and share it with Eritrea in Birr. Eventhough, the Ethiopians learned very early that the refining cost was way higher than buying a refined oil (the Assab refinery was really outdated technology wise), the Ethiopians continue using it considering the consumption joint venture with Eritrea.
            Later, it became too much to carry the burden for them and abandon the old plant to Eritreans and started importing processed fuel for itself. I also beleive that was one factor for the two leaders to become uneasy with each other.

          • Abraham H.

            Selam Hayat Adem, thanks for the info. It will be very interesting how the coming trade relations would be between the two countries. I strongly doubt it that the run-down and outdated Eritrean ports would be competitive to the modern Djibouti ports. I think it will take time to get the Eritrean ports up and running; so the bulk of Ethiopian trade would still be through Djibouti.

          • Hayat Adem

            Dear Abraham H.,
            Indeed. Eritrea’s ports cannot compete with Djibouti right now. Djibouti has gone too far and it has advantages of economies of scale to continue upgrading itself. Assab could be used for other non-commenrcial logistics like that of handling humnatarian supplies, but not commercial bulks. Also, service giving human competitiveness in Eritrea has lagged behind a lot.
            Massawa will have some work because of its proximity to the North.
            Hotelling and Hospitality investments can be very attaractive in the short term. But PFDJ would never allow private Eritreans to invest. It will open it for outsiders venturing with PFDJ companies.
            I want to remind you though of one thing: the only thing we have witnessed in Eritrea as a change is that it is now trying to make peace with Ethiopia. Prisoners are still there. oppostion politics is still banned. Sawa is still graduating and admitting. IA has presided over all problems of the past. I have never seen him acting the way he was acting with Abiy: kissing his fingers for show of love, holding his chest to show humility and humbleness. I don’t know what he did to him: i wonder if the entire Eritrea needs to do the same thing Abiy did to him: shower him with praises and gifts; treating him like a kid with candies and see if he can open up and empity the prisons.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Dear Hayat,

            After the independence of Eritrea, Isaias support raised to the sky more than that of Dr. Abie Ahmed at present. At that period of time, Isaias dreams was bigger than Eritrea; therefore, he didn’t give heed to Eritrean people support. Now, it seems, he is sick with zheimer disease, unless that he wouldn’t have presented Eritrean leadership to Dr. Abie Ahmed. Certainly his mind has deleted who the real owner of the Eritrean leadership are. Really, Dr. Abie Ahmed has missed a golden opportunity, he should have directed him to hand it to its owners, the people of Eritrea, or he should have told him I accepted it from you and given it back to the Eritrean people. I think Dr. Abie Ahmed is that a wise leader, and knows how to pass his message smartly without offending his guest.

          • hope

            Selam Hayat Adem:
            Your HYPOCRISY and inconsistency is endless/boundary less.
            Here is why:
            If Aseb Port was handling every need of Ethiopia at that time—way beyond the Humanitarian needs,why can’t it handle things the same way now?
            What it needs is an urgent renovation,which is being done, as we speak.

            Make no mistake that Jabooti Port is well built and expanded for obvious reasons but you would have made some more sense if you said that, since Djibouti is congested at this moment, the Eri Ports would be a big solution for Ethiopian Port Services needs.
            FYI:
            I just checked the dictionary and Jabooty is spelt as ” Djibouti” and
            “thanks for the correction”.

          • Hayat Adem

            Hi Hope,
            You are becoming miserable. Asseb has lost its advantage during all the years it chose camels to be its best customers.

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Abraham,
            There is a lot that can be said about the entire secret agreements between the two. But that can not be done in two or three line comments. I got into this because of comment that claimed TPLF was using the pot for free. But each port has its own prices and people study the prices before they choose a port over the other. As you know, the variables are too many.

          • Hope

            Selam SGJ:
            Would U be so kind to retrieve and repost the Interview you conducted with PMMZ?
            Here is the reason why I asked U that question:
            I correctly remember about you asking PMMZ about the big benefit Eritrea has been losing for “Banning” Ethiopia or Eritrea NOT allowing Ethiopia to use Aseb as if it was Eritrea that banned Ethiopia from using the Aseb Port.
            His answer to your question?
            That Eritrea was losing ” At least $500-700 Million per annum”.
            If that was the case, with all due respect, sir,aren’t you contradicting yourself?

          • Saleh Johar

            Hope,
            First, if you want an article, you google it. Why do you want me to do it for you?
            Then, if you think you remember what was in it, why bother and look for it.
            IMPORTANT: I don’t think “Contradict” means what you think it means. Contradict is what you do, your specialty. And what you said about “banning” is your imagination, not mine.

          • FishMilk

            Hi Saleh Johar. Let us hope that agreements now being worked out regarding Ethiopian use of Eritrean ports benefits from lessons learnt from past mistakes and misunderstandings, especially as related to Assab. Many believe that Assab’s oil refinery related matters, port refurbishment costs and introduction of the Nakfa and related currency payment procedures; were major contributing factors towards the 1998-2000 border war. Prior to 1993, it was said that about 70% of Assab’s population was Ethiopian which gradually reduced to around 40% by the time of the border war. Let us hope that the peace process affords Ethiopians (though now aged) with essential port skills to return to Assab so that they can positively contribute to efficient port operations.

          • iSem

            Saleh:
            Sheba does not need to have been in port, if she needs to know something she summons that desire by burning some exotic herbs. the Idea of IQs is irrelevant in the world of Saba,

          • Saba

            Dear Saleh,
            1) I said frequently that i am a one liner and an average or lower. So if one has a higher IQ, by definition that person can not have a lesser IQ than mine.
            2) If you were working in one of the ports and you have a first hand knowledge i am eager to learn. So which port did you work? I have been to Massawa port but my knowledge is second or third hand.
            3) When i said for free i did not mean they did not pay any fee. If you rent a car and you pay only for the gas you consumed, then you had the car for “free”. So by free i mean it was not at competitive price. If you had a first hand info please enlighten me. But i warn you, you will end up praising the PIA gov:)
            4) When i said TPLF i meant the Ethio gov at that time. It does not mean exclusionary. And the main topic was about PFDJ not trusting TPLF in negotiating about the border for a second time.

          • Blink

            Dear Saba
            The problem with some people is that they don’t accept the reality and they will stay on insisting that everything they don’t approve is bad for the people. That kind of ego is becoming like a DNA in some corners of the opposition activists and I don’t see their work come to fruits and I don’t see their god save the people, oh I forgot your god loves to kill people in order to take them to heaven. Damt very hard to see people pray for their problems to go away .

            Port!! Which port ? Asseb is the base for blood hungry Arab killers and I hope the Yemenis forgive us .

      • Blink

        Dear Hayat
        You are becoming a bitter loser , grace yourself because it is not helping people. If they withdraw what can you possibly lose ? You have been feeding this forum with news baked in your pocket, now you are trying to pull your honest judgment . Pls don’t bother with that kind. Language is not a glass anyone has the right to break it and I am sure you have done it . By the way , do the audience understood what Issaias said? I hope so .

  • Peace!

    @george,

    Oh really, I didn’t know that! But at least I speak for myself- to me DIA, the butcher-in-chief, is not “WE” You are right he didn’t get here by being wishy-washy- he has killed, tortured, and disappeared thousands innocent Eritreans. The Nihna Nisu Nisu Nihna ደናቑር are sacrificing their kids to apologize for him.

    Today Haileselassie is dancing in his grave while Betwedid bleeding and screaming in unknown prison. Well, I rather choose souls over character, my friend.

    Peace!

  • ‘Gheteb

    The Eritrean National Anthem Played At The Millennium Hall In Ethiopia

    Greetings!!

    In what should be deemed as one of the highlights of todays events coming from Addis Ababa, at least for me, is listening to an Ethiopian troupe singing the Eritrean National Anthem. Their accented Tigrigna was so cute and their performance coming that close to perfection.

    Hearing The Eritrean National Anthem was a befitting antiphon (response) to all the wild speculation and unmitigated misconstruing about Eritrean being sold by Isaias Afwerki and that confederation of Eritrea to Ethiopia is all but in the offing.

    Just to capture this seminal moment, find below the lyrics of The Eritrean National Anthem;

    Tigrinya lyrics

    ኤርትራ ኤርትራ ኤርትራ፡
    በዓል ደማ እናልቀሰ ተደምሲሱ፡
    መስዋእታ ብሓርነት ተደቢሱ።
    መዋእል ነኺሳ ኣብ ዕላማ፡
    ትእምርቲ ጽንዓት ኰይኑ ስማ፡
    ኤርትራ’ዛ ሓበን ውጹዓት፡
    ኣመስኪራ ሓቂ ክምትዕወት።
    ኤርትራ ኤርትራ፡
    ኣብ ዓለም ጨቢጣቶ ግቡእ ክብራ።
    ናጽነት ዘምጽኣ ልዑል ኒሕ፡
    ንህንጻ ንልምዓት ክሰርሕ፡
    ስልጣነ ከነልብሳ ግርማ፡
    ሕድሪ’ለና ግምጃ ክንስልማ።
    ኤርትራ ኤርትራ፡
    ኣብ ዓለም ጨቢጣቶ ግቡእ ክብራ።

    Eritrea, Eritrea, Eritrea,
    Her Nemesis destroyed while wailing,
    her sacrifices vindicated by freedom.
    Forever firm in her principles,
    her name became a synonym of tenacity,
    Eritrea, the pride of the oppressed,
    is a testament that truth prevails.
    Eritrea, Eritrea,
    has taken her rightful place in the world.
    [So that] The supreme dedication that brought us freedom,
    will serve to rebuild her and develop her,
    We shall honor her with progress,
    It is our legacy to crown her.
    Eritrea, Eritrea,
    has taken her rightful place in the world.

    • Guest

      Selamat

      It would be more assuring if PIA a uttered single word about Eritrean sovereignty and territorial integrity. I was the right place and time to do so. Did you notice that PMAA mentioned Bihere-Kunama, the inhabitants of Badme and its environs, as Ethiopians!

      • Ismail AA

        Dear Guest,

        For Isayas (exclude surrogates because have no say) sovereignty and territorial integrity are game spoilers when Ethiopians hear them from his mouth. His interest now is circumscribed by the success or failure of the savior (Dr. Abiy) in selling his politics of love to Ethiopia which is rife with internal challenges on almost all fronts, and help him buy extra lease of life for his regime. He knows sooner than later the Eritrean people will have to speak and act for a nation whose destiny was secured by unfathomable price in blood and sweet. Thus, it would be unwarranted self-delusion on the part of our neighbors in Ethiopia to put their eggs in Isayas’ basket. Fraternal Ethiopia would act wise if it would take the current exchanges as mere niceties between captains of ships in the vicinities of one another struggling to make it through to safe shores in the middle of tempestuous sea.

      • Hope

        Guest:
        FYI:
        There are Eritreans Kunamas!
        Aboy mentioned the Blin /Blenoch) as well ,so don’t be excited and his speech has nothing to do with reversing Eri Independence.

        Most Buduma Residents were Tigrinya Speaking Eritreans with few Kunama mixed,to my best knowledge during the 1976-1987 .

        The Eri Kunamas mostly inhabit Barentu area,Gugne,Shambiko ,Binbina and Tikhumbia( mixed with
        Tigrniya Speaking Eris).

        This stupid fear -mongering by Peace ,iSem and Aman Hidrat is but fake propaganda as PIA has NO piece of right to reverse Eri Independence !

        • Abraham H.

          Selam Hope, “This stupid fear -mongering by Peace ,iSem and Aman Hidrat is but fake propaganda as PIA has NO piece of right to reverse Eri Independence !”. Yes, we know DIA doesn’t have the faintest of right to reverse or tamper with the Eritrean independence which was secured through the sacrifices of tens of thousands of Eritreans and through the democratic process of referendum. What those Eritreans who care for the well being of their country and people are concerned with is, since DIA wields absolute power, since the affairs of our nation are purely on his hands, he could endanger our interests by signing deals that only benefit him and his henchmen.
          Do we have any knowledge about the so called port lease agreement the Eritrean dictator has with the UAE? Do we know about where the proceeds from the mining sector are spent? Do we have any independent audit to show the governments’ expenditures and income? Do we know anything about the details of agreements between the dictator and Egypt, where Egypt is said to be exploiting the Red Sea resources unscrupulously? So how would any deal that DIA reaches with PM Abiy be any different from these deals, when there are no other Eritreans to debate and review them?

    • Peace!

      ‘Gheteb,

      I do not think people are in a mood for ሀተው ቀተው you should be comforting betrayed Eritreans. ጽንዓት ይሃብኩም ምባል ኣይምሓሸን?

      Peace!

      • Rule of Law

        Peace
        Are you talking about the shattered dream of G-7? 🙂

  • Saba

    Dear Eritreans and Ethiopians,
    Why all this change all of the sudden? Some of you have said it is due to COI. But if COI has such great effect Nkorea leader would have been the first to feel it. And some of you have said it is due to the recent closure of border with ESudan, but that border was closed even before. So it looks like that PIA seems to see himself in the young PMAA. Meskerem dot net called it “mesharikti’. All of the sudden he is short of words. Speech writers need to apply:)
    The symbols are all over so we still need to know the details as soon as possible. Trust but verify!

  • Hayat Adem

    Hi All,
    Saay has to process one more time but for the 1st time a speech from the dictator made in Amharic. For some reason, he looked okay while sitting but he looked so fookish when he was speaking. He even foolishly tried to imitate Abiy acting like a loving guy with that act of kiss-on-air. Saay gave him a fitting name: pussycat in Addis!
    Meskerem was begging for a word from him on the border. Nope! I am so happy he failed them for the first time.

    • Saba

      Dear Hayat
      V for vendetta?
      Speaking in Amharic is not a problem even though some people were longing for it. PMAA spoke in Tigrigna and the announcers were both in Tigrigna and Amharic. Enough with secondary issues.
      Instead we should focus on demanding our constitution, having election etc
      And No to surgical precision:)
      The leadership is old and tired. We need young people with fresh ideas.
      Some are RE-singing the song “F&B”. It is out of tune now, move on.

      • Hayat Adem

        Hi Saba,
        IA speaking or trying to speak in Amharic was a good thing. In fact, I have been encouraging Eritreans including the leadership to use it. For me, language is classless or agenda-nuetral.
        Did you say ‘election”? Hmm… What is pushing your hope up these days? Tell me if I have missed something: Is PIA is still in power?

        • Saba

          Hi Hayat,
          No more TPLF agenda. Questioning the survival of the Eritrean people as a nation is over. You will understand that if you were one of the weyane declared war displaced people or meet one of them.
          Since today the clock is ticking for election & constitution. You will understand this if you had sensed the mood and force of the Eritrean people in 1996-1998.

        • iSem

          Hi Hayat and Saba:
          Of course PMAA Abiye speaking Tig is not the same DIA speaking in Amharic, Tig was never banned in Ethiopia, Amharic was in Eritrea and now if IA had any respect, if he was not doing his koshemseh he would speak in Tig or any Eritrean lanague even Rashaidite would do and then have it translated to Amharic. Saba, please Saba
          Everything was an insult to the Eriteran people he will soon say Eritrean is mine
          I think (am not sure) but it was the late Seyoum who said this
          እትው ውጽ እ ኔሩ ‘ዩ አብ ቓኘው ስተሽን
          ተኸዲንካ ናይ CIA ሽንሽን

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Sem,

            “He will soon say Eritrean is mine.” Didn’t he already said it? I think Amb Andebrhan in his book cited that implies to it. Also you are right, that the quoted tigrigna is said by Seyoum in 1977.

          • iSem

            Hi Emma:
            Yes, he did, bu I mean telling that on Eri TV and watch when he says that how Gheteb and your friend what is his name again, would say, I wish he says it to see what Gheteb and Sem T and ur friend will say

  • Desbele

    Ah… Croatia. It hurts!

    • Fanti Ghana

      Selamat Desbele,

      Yes it does, but I am really proud of Croatia. A nation of only 4.5 million, who declared their independence in 1991, and got it in 1995. Amazingly they did well in their first 1994 world cup too. I was vouching for them then and I did this time too although I have nothing against France.

    • Kim Hanna

      Selam Desbele,

      The Croatia team gave a good accounting of themselves. I was in their corner. I am amazed how a 4.5 million people nation produced such a team. I wonder why 1.5 billion China and similar India is not even in the picture. Forget about us, we are not even a contenders for the African cup. Did you know Ethiopia was the African Cup winners in the early 60s. It has been down hill ever since.

      Mr. K.H

  • Blink

    Dear all
    While abiy speech was long with many good wishes and points I think Issaias knows deep down 1/2 of Abiy speech was a scathing attack to his personality as well as his politics in Eritrea. I was happy to see Issaias get the fruit of Democracy forces attack and the mirror of his brutal dictatorship he lead in Eritrea ,but to my surprise was all about Abiy , I couldn’t imagine he forgot to mention Massawa . is that because he ( Abiy) didn’t agree with his dying weyane partners ? Fanti , Amde and others can enlighten us. Issaias overwhelmed by the continuous chants of his Name, he has been called Heroe by Abiy . Why and how is Issaias heroe for any Ethiopian except for the G-7 , OLF and ONLF , well Gheteb can help me . We all know Issaias believe in United Ethiopia but can he be called Heroe inside 4 kilo ? Well time changed . Let’s wait to the agreement especially how they will solve the border issue .

    • Mez

      Hi all,

      Viva France!

    • Fanti Ghana

      Selamat blink,

      Welcome to the land of the living! I hope you are sufficiently confused by now.
      You can borrow that long stick Mahmuday was using the other day to poke at TPLF’s slumber body to make sure it is really dead, and give it a try.

      I admire your quick wits. “PMAA did not mention Massawa, Massawa is the closest port to Adigrat, therefore PMAA must be trying to punish TPLF.”

      The problem is that it was PMAA who said “TPLF is not Tigray people.” You see the dilemma don’t you? Peace, harmony, traffic, economy, and etc… is about people. PMAA is for the people. The rest is easy.

      I said that for the sake of argument, but the truth is that he has no grudge against TPLF and TPLF has no grudge on him. However, there are always trouble makers and contrarians and we will deal with them with combined force in time.

      I am extremely proud to say that his support in Tigray is growing based on solid analysis. One young Tigrayan amazed me with a simple question and he became a symbol for me to the overall political maturity in Ethiopia in general but in Tigray in particular.

      In the beginning, one of the curious questions by some Tigrayans was “why are so many prisoners freed all of a sudden?”

      The young Tigrayan asked in return “shouldn’t that question oblige us to also ask why were so many people jailed in the first place?”

      There is hope blink arkey. As bitsay Isaias said: meAnTakha asTim!

      • Blink

        Dear Fanti
        Thanks for your explanation.
        I said ,Thanks the camera man didn’t show from Tigray officials because that could have been bad bad bad. Because I don’t want them to be booed that is all. The support for Abiy in Tigray is proportional to the degree that TPLF got reformed to the ears of other Ethiopians . For the benefit of both people ( Tigrians and Eritreans) massawa has to be open and free to Ethiopia because without that I can’t imagine peace to be stable . Issaias has to lose his ego and Abiy has to keep him in the table to solve this issue. My personal wish is unreasonably not practical because I wish Debrestion can smile while Issaias holding his hand . There is no
        -ve feeling against the Tigrians but you know there will be against TPLF and it will take time to heal.

  • dawit

    Good day Awatians
    Finally we have the two countries and one people restored for those of us blieved PIA leadership. The Eritreans who believed ‘Nsu Nhina’ won the ‘The War’. Yes ‘PIA Znegesna Ngusna’
    dawit

    • Peace!

      Dawitye,

      …..ስለዚህም ለተከበረው የኣማራ ሕዝብ በዚ ኣጋጣሚ ይቅርታ እንጠይቃለን:)

      Peace!

      • Abi

        Hi Peace
        Half time at the World Cup.
        በዚህ አጋጣሚ አንድ የአማርኛ ዘፈን ቢሞርቁበት ይቅርታውን እንቀበላለን።

        • Peace!

          Abish,

          እሺ የኔ ወንድም, Enjoy!

          https://youtu.be/Xnp1UO9OVUk

          Peace!

          • Blink

            Dear peace
            Did you watch Tedy menkenja talk in the millennium stadium? Why did he mention Hailesilassie and forgot Meles and Desale hailemariam? I mean for us Dessale was better. Hailesilassie Bouchered our people on day light . The guy is idiotic and moronic. I thought Abiy face was not easy when Tedy got the mic .

          • Peace!

            Blink,

            Well, that’s how they have been paying respect to our DIA for his generosity. TPLF is now the new Hailesilassie.

            Peace!

          • FishMilk

            Hi Peace! You are indeed correct when you say ‘TPLF is now the new Hailesilassie’ as both are now dead.

          • Peace!

            FM,

            Yes both are dead and effective tool for DIA to confuse his clueless followers 🙂

            Peace!

    • Fanti Ghana

      Selamat dawitom,

      Is this really you? How many dawits can say “zinegese ngusna’ in one lifetime so I will assume you are you. O’ Dawitom, long time no talk. I though and wondered about you many many times.

      I hope to god this peace process will come to fruition for the sake of our peoples. Eritreans have suffered for so long but they never lost their dignity or decency at any time. Be proud of the people.

      I know peace means more to you than to many others, but please remember and honor all those who sacrificed everything for independence and justice. I will skip the ‘Nsu Nhina’ part for now, but I am glad to see you are glad.

      Welcome back!

  • ‘Gheteb

    The “Stringer” Kbrom Bruits; Reality Refutes

    Greetings!!

    Here is the hyper-imaginative “stringer” of this Forum, Kbrom, spreading wildly rumors that has emanated from his hyper-imaginative mind. Here is what he reported 48 hours ago:

    ” Kbrom • 2 days ago

    Hi all
    1. PIA will take with him 23 officials from different ministries ( hand picked by him) to Addis. The technical committee will be formed and MOU will be signed on transportation, trade, investment ….. aka 5 pillars”.

    But in REALITY, the delegation that accompanied PIA are:

    ” The Eritrean delegation that accompanied President Isaias to the landmark visit to Ethiopia includes:

    – Foreign Minister Osman Saleh
    – Presidential Advisor Yemene Ghebreab
    – Minister of Justice Fawzia Hashim
    – Minister Tourism Askalu Menkorios
    – Minister of National Development Dr. Giorgis Tesfamichael
    – Minister Transport and Communication Tesfaselasie Berhane
    – Commander of the Eritrean Navy Maj. Gen. Humed Karikari
    – Governor of Zoba Maakel Maj. Gen. Romadan Osman Awuliae, and
    – National Security Chief Bir. Gen. Abraha Kassa”.

    That makes the number to be NINE (9) and not 23 as the “stringer” would have us believe.

    But you may ask where did Kbrom got the delegation that was to accompany PIA would be 23 ( TWENTY THREE)?

    Two days ago, I wrote a note entitled, ” PIA Visits Addis; The “Stringer” Confabulates”, in which I wrote the following:

    ” : But the Ethiopian Foreign Minister has already said, three days ago, that the main committee that is to be headed by both foreign minister of Eritrea and Ethiopia has already been established. There will be sub-committees under the main committees.
    [ the main committee has already started its work, which the Ethiopian Foreign Minister, Workneh Gebeyehu, confirmed during a press conference].

    K1 (again): ” PIA will take with him 23 officials from different ministries”.

    [ Yeah, PIA will TAKE WITH HIM and not, be accompanied by, as if these officials were goods or implements]. It means the one who was issued a WARRANTY, PIA, is taking with him, not human beings, but some inanimate objects.

    K3: 2 is followed by 3 and 23 makes it easier for a hyper-imaginative mind.
    [ Yeah, why exactly 23 and what is the need for 23 officials if the visit is just to sign MOU and establish the technical committees] ? Technical committees or sub-committees??

    As I have said previously, the “stringer” collects tidbits from the rumor mill, spices it up by adding made-up details and then propagates the rumors as if they are confirmed news.

    There is no more solid evidence that what Kbrom reports are out and out rumors and hearsays.

    • saay7

      Selamat Cuz Gheteb:

      Happy Sunday. When I read the report at shabait, i actually thought of you and whether as Denizen of Planet Logic you will yield to it or as the Defender of the Ruling Party you will see it as a way to try to hurt the credibility of our rising star Kbrom. And disappointingly, you have chosen unwisely.

      1. Kbrom said there is a delegation of 23
      2. Slow Yemane Gebremeskel told you the delegation includes 9 people.

      I know things are moving fast, but I think 23 still includes 9.

      So, Kbrom wins and you lose. Again. Both on speed and accuracy. The gobyes single claim used to be i may be slow but so get there; now it’s slow and arrives at polar opposite of its destination.

      saay

      • @george

        Dear saay

        “..we beg”.. seriously! Let me get this

        1. Ethiopia was about to weeks from collapsing

        2. Everybody I mean everybody was saying that genocide was about to happen. the likes of which have never seen in Africa.

        3. Woyane was taking their money out of the country, where 40 birr1

        where does the bacon come from? in case you don’t know I’m the last week’s alone over a hundred people died in Ethiopia. Hundreds of thousands of people are displaced. what are we begging for? Peace yes. If sizing the opportunity for lasting peace is considered begging maybe your definition begging it’s different.

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Saay (Aya-Adi’U)

        You are the psychoanalyst of our despot (the pussycat as you call him). Could you please give us the analysis of his speech in Addis, including his body languages and his reaction when PM Abiy put their wedding ring in his finger.

        The PM has completely conquered his heart, to the extent to make him speak about peace and love, for a man who is known for liquidating his colleagues both during ghedli and after independence. He made him to speak of peace and love for a man who is known for throwing kids and religious leaders in to prisons, for a cruel man who has enemity with dead corpse. He made him speak about peace and love for man who denied his people who died in deserts and high seas of Mediterranean. He made him speak for about peace and love for a man who kept the youth of a nation in endless modern slavery. He made him speak about peace and love for a man who put his citizens into jail without a day in a court to defend their innocence. In a short he made him speak about peace and love for an evil man who devoured his own people since he join the Eritrean politics directly and indirectly.

        • saay7

          Selam Emma:

          I don’t know the field of psychoanalysis and I think what I try to do is to remember, as far too many people are willing to forget. And if you take sum total of Isaias career, there is nothing in his career that indicates he understand the words love, generosity, kindness and forgiveness. So he is scheming for a role for himself at a much bigger stage (Eritrea was always too small for him) and if you heard his speech the dots are appearing: “we are not going to allow anyone to interrupt our march towards development, nor our peace of mind.” Since Eritrea and Ethiopia are now one people (always were, since yesterday) clearly this means he is willing to jump in to his comfort zone, if allowed by our new Uber president Abiye: “pacifying Ethiopia.” Do you think his understanding of “pacifying Ethiopia” means create jobs, come up with responsive local government OR go shooting?

          As for Eritrea, it’s been Isaias Inc for a long time, since—-per his understanding—- all remnants of resistance were silenced, and he has given this small tiny holding of boring Eritrea and its small problems to Abiy. He would rather deal with bigger challenges like the Somali-Oromo conflict (no ethnic tensions in Eritrea), lack of food security in Ethiopia (solved in Eritrea), unmet SDGs (all met ahead of schedule in Eritrea), IGAD, AU, malaise (help is on the way) etc. It’s not his fault—again per his understanding—that Eritreans are a meek people who do whatever he orders.

          saay

          • Tesfu

            Dear saay7,
            It is not for the first time you mentioned Mesfin Hagos name regarding in 1990-91 at the meeting in London. ( he has not written any thing nor uttered a word about it). And before joining ELF, was with Sabe group. My question to you is how do u see his character? what is he afraid of to spill the beans?
            I hope you give some feed back.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Tesfu,

            Some correction if you don’t mind. You have said: “before joining ELF was with Sabe group.” But rather it should be before he joined Sabe he was with ELF. Mesfun had joined ELF before the splinters came to existence.

          • Tesfu

            Selam Amauel,
            U are right i saw it . thanks

        • Ismail AA

          Selam Aman H,

          I didn’t notice a speech from Isayas worthy of saay time. What I noticed is the champion of monotonous talks has turned to mute receiver and unsettled listener at that. It is clear he has accepted the good doctor as savior who landed from heavens to redeem his irredeemable regime that has been consuming itself through heavy burden of crimes and aging. He seems to be pinning his last hope to the success or failure of Dr Abiy, and to help him succeed, he is (at least rhetorically) betray anything that blood and sweet of Eritrean patriots had sanctified. It seems to me time to be anxious and hear and read what the loud proponents sovereignty above everything else would say and write. The bitter hour is not that much far away.

  • Hayat Adem

    Greetings All,
    The commander in crime has one unique power that all the time amazes me: externalization. It is boggling to understand how he is ready to create problems and effortlessly blame them on others. I mean look at it with a grain of honesty. He blames the war. Who created the war? He blames the cold war (no peace no war). Who created that situation? The difference between him&his team and Abiy&his team are the former have been presidiing over every problem.
    PIA is smiling at the new developments as if he is just visiting the region for the first time now coming from another world. At times he seemed that he himself believes he had nothing to do with all that mess. He comes up on TV and displays a victim face and utters “abzom ziHalefu aAmetat ziteKheseru eEdilat… blabla…” as if he was not the leading actor in all that tragedy play. If he was disgnosed by a professional, we would learn many internal imbalances of him.

    • FishMilk

      Hi Hayat Adem. Everyone is smiling for peace except TPLF & Associates & Sympathizers. TPLF Bad Boys, Bad Boys, whatcha gonna do when they come for you….

    • Blink

      Dear Hayat
      It was You guys created and you have the time to correct for 18 years but you didn’t use it for good instead you used billions of dollars to your own advantage not even to the people of Tigray. Now admit you are not in the driving sit so better watch with tight lips because Lema team are taking power for the first time. Sit tight. The hate of TPLF was displayed openly on ETV . Just look the smile on Ethiopians even the Tigrians are smiling .

    • saay7

      Selamat Hayat:

      It’s just not externalizing. At one point, in one of his long interviews, he blamed the United States for instigating the Eritrea-Ethiopia conflict so that they can swoop in and manage the crisis. Because of all our oil? Who knows: he is that crazy cab driver talking about the trilateral commission and the black SUV always following him except that he is head of State with unlimited power over the lives of 3-4 million people.

      saay

    • Bruk Awet

      i was watching Isu from a live broadcast from Hawassa. He seems puzzled after he visited Addis and Hawassa after 20 years. he seems to say ‘my, i didn’t even rebuilt Asmara Palace, but look how TPLF changed this huge and multi-problematic country’

  • FishMilk

    Hi All. Eritrean international stocks have been soaring while Ethiopian international stocks have continued to go southwards. Is it the hard currency shortage that is negatively affecting international investor confidence in Ethiopia these days…..or other?

  • FishMilk

    Hi All. Black market exchange rate in Addis Ababa now at 38 birr for 1 USD. Never has the difference between bank and black market rate been this high. Really wish that there was open FOREX in both Ethiopia and Eritrea.

  • FishMilk

    Hi Hope. It is really incredible. The Eritrea oppositionists who have for two decades sympathized with the TPLF in their aim to overthrow the PIA/PFDJ regime, are now really struggling within themselves to find direction.

  • Mitiku Melesse

    Hei.
    This peace deal is not like the 1991. It has nothing with this traditional habessha politics. No. It has no agenda to use the port or the sea access to promote one ethnic groups even one nation. As our PM pointed it out the peace is to help one another in changing each ethnic groups in both countries. He made it clear yesterday one more time. This peace process has nothing to do punishing Tigray. But it stopped tplf to abuse our relation for its crooked malicious plan. This feudal system wont be better just because it is performed by Tigrians or Tigres. This peace deal has nothing to do with Djibouti access Ethiopia has. That would be also extended more. What ever brings more wealth and work opportunity would be encouraging as long as it has mutual advantage. I hope the leaders of Eritrea also with this new plan. all the feudal habesah intrigued has been proved and failed. Let’s give a chance to the new vision. But those of who want to use your port or sea access to meddle in Ethiopian politics i tell you this. You have learnt nothing from the past 20 years. Stop to be control freak. .

  • Selam All,

    It was not the key to the city of addis that DIA received, but the ring of confederation, which had always been the dream of the eritrean leader. Confederation of ethiopia and eritrea as Kbrom said is possible and plausible.

    We should remember the words of PMMZ, ‘it was the eritrean people who insisted on independence and not IA’. It seems that he is finally going to be vindicated.

    Confederation maybe the best arrangement for eritrea. There will be some sticking points, which could be sorted out in the future, the currency, for example. The dish seems ready to serve, and some will have no appetite for it. Does DIA care? I do not think so.

    • saay7

      Horizon:

      The question is not does IA care (we all know he doesn’t.). The question is does anybody care?

      Your PM has been on an extensive IA-whitewashing campaign. He is reintroducing and rebranding him as his older brother, Isu. A man to whom Ethiopia is a second home. A man whose wise counsel he will see as he leads the people of Ethiopia and Eritrea.

      Meanwhile, there are the testimonies. Of thousands of Eritreans who have been victimized by this same man. They are combatants, they are elderly, they are youth and children. They are refugees housed in your own countries. They are religious, in house arrests and underground prisons. They are journalists and young women with dual nationalities. They are his own co-religionists, Evangelicals who want to worship their God in the manner of their faith. They are spouses of veterans, and husbands of ministers. They are veterans exiled from a country they helped liberate, same country Abiy has been given carte blanche to visit any time. They are youth condemned to wasting away their lives rejecting an “in principle” agreement in favor of an “unconditionally” agreement, so we can have “overall” agreement.

      It’s unseemly for Abiy to do that, but something he can readily counter by using two magical words: “national interest.” What’s disheartening is when those who were chronicling with us these crimes against our citizens do summersaults to rationalize this unseemly behavior.

      And, naming names, I count you on the list of the unseemly. Like Kbrom said this will be an alignment. But I don’t care about the confederation non confederation alignment. It’s gojng to be human rightists and “pragmatists” and I know where I will be even if the partners I though I could count on are smitten by the “yes, but not now” virus, after all the terrible experiences we collectively had with Haileselasse, Derg, TPLF and PFDJ.

      saay

      • Tzigereda

        Selam Saay,
        Thank you! ክንድዚ ሸብዳዕዳዕ ፈኾስኮስ in the name of “ፍቅር ያሸንፋል” is lack of self respect and disrespect to those victimised by the insane Isaias Afwerki.

        • sara

          Tzigereda dear,
          i know you are good in expressing your self through songs, please
          select a song in Amharic for awate forumers that will reflect the current development in Eritrea and Ethiopia. btw, its a week end and links are allowed.

          • Peace!

            Hi Sara,

            I heard Sudan president Al-Beshir is in Russia, very timing 🙂

            ** what do you think of Eritrea under new management?

            Peace!

          • sara

            selamat peace dear..
            i was to respond to you yesterday, unfortunately the temp here was 45cc then and there was power failure in our neighborhood… no net connection… any way you know Sudan the great with all the difficulty of the day today life , we are doing “Ya”nee Mashee Al’Hal” thanks to
            president Bashir… he has friends here and there who do fill his needs when in dire need.
            as for our eritrea… well..well… I think peace is good.. peace is the mother of most solutions… and those of us in the neighborhood are
            really happy with the peace prospects, that will make our stay out of our home irrelevant.

          • Peace!

            Hi Sara,

            “peace is the mother of most solutions” Agreed. Let’s hope for the best, and may our misery come to an end and disappear forever.

            Peace!

          • Tzigereda

            Dear Sara,

            Thank you, I am not sure if I belong to those…:)
            I heard this song of Yemane G. days ago, the recording is not good, but one can hear the lyrics…it is just a quick pick, I hope you like it.
            The title is “ ዕዳ” ( maybe Haile S, wedi gezawtey can help writing the whole lyrics. I have no idea when Yemane G. sang it)

            “ታህዋኽ ኣይግድን’ዩ ተዓሚትካ ምጉያይ
            ጎዳጉዲ ከይህሉ ሰብ ዝኾዓቶ ቀላይ”
            https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GjVT6gQphaI

          • Haile S.

            Selamat Tzigereda and all,
            ጓል ገዝውተይ፡ ከምቲ ዝበልክዮ ጽቡቕ ገይሩ ስለዘይተቐርጸን ምስምዑ ስለዘሸግርን፡ ናይ ባዕለይ ግጥሚ እንሆ። ኣይተስተዋሕድዮ።

            ሰላም፡ ሰላም ‘ዛ ልምጽቲ
            ሕብራዊት ከም ሽሃይቲ
            ከስተማቕሩኺ ምቅርቲ
            ከሽትቱኺ ጥዕምቲ
            ክትርሕቂ ሕስምቲ
            ክትሃድሚ ርግምቲ
            ተሳኢንኪ የማን ጸጋመይቲ
            ዘይትርከቢ በዚ በቲ በቲ
            ዘይደለየኪ ይለኽየኪ ዘይቲ
            መታን ክትሃድሚ ከተምልጢ
            ስቕ ዲኺ ትብሊ ኣንቲ!
            እዝኒ ከምዘይብሉ ወ’ኣዒንቲ
            እንሆ ኣምጺኦምኺ ሎሚ ብውንጭሕቲ
            ሎምስ ኮፍ እስኪ በሊ ንሓዋርሩ ኣባና ተቐመጢ

          • Ismail AA

            ሰላም ሃይለ ዓርከይ፣
            ከይፈለጥና እባ ቆናጁ ሻሆ ልብኻ ካብ ዝወዳ ቀንየን እየን ዝመስላ። በል ይኣኽለካ እንበዓል ጽገረዳ መልክዐን ከም ናይ ሸሃይቲ “ልሙጽ” ምዃኑን ዘይምዃኑን ንምፍታሽ ናብ መስቲያት ከይቶግይየን።

        • saay7

          Selam Tsigereda:

          IAs PFDJ motto: if you treat us honorably and make us an offer, we will reject it. We prefer to beg for it much later, only after we subject Eritrea to considerable pain, and only if our begging for it will inflict maximum humiliation on the people.

          This peace treaty was very objectionable because it had a two word prefix: “in principle.” Now that it has been removed, we will operate on the basis that it has been accepted “in general” and do exactly what we would have done 16 years ago, except it will be with a person from a different ethnicity, whose assuming of power we had nothing to do with.

          saay

        • Ismail AA

          Selam Tzigereda,

          Actually the two are trying to rehabilitate one another. It league of an Ethiopian whose ambition (he heard its realization from his late mother as 7-year old boy) who landed in the stirring cabin of sinking EPRDF boat, and an Eritrean burdened by the last phase of an morally and materially bankrupt aging dictatorship. One can read it what is in play from the feverish exaltation spree of one another in their exchanges. It’s all about መጀመርያ ፍቅሪ ካልእ ነክርክበሉ ዕዳጋ እንተሰሊጡና and nothing else yet.

          I do not know how “love and sentiments” will translate to policy when things reach policy drawing and execution desks. At the moment the love affair has not passed the dating and not crossed to contract plotting stage. By the way, as far as Ethiopia is concerned, it is only Dr. Abiy who is speaking and making declarations. The power houses of the EPRDF have not yet spoken on how they will deal with the unbridled offers the good Dr. has been making in their name left and right. Begin thinking about this the challenges his home constituencies will pose with the arrival of new and powerful stakeholders who are equipped and armed than thanks to Isayas. Each component of the governing coalition face internal challenges that demand alignment right after the dust of the current euphoria settles. The Sudanese folk saying may explain the situation aptly: they say “al tugul wara” which means the “heaviest is to follow”.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Ismailo,

            Indeed the crux of the matter is how the “love of each other” will convert in to policy that change the quality of life of both people. Euphoria to new faces and hopes always swing the moods of the public. So far it is the ephoria of the gospel of love and peace. As you have noted it, the toughest is to follow.

      • FishMilk

        Hi saay7. An opposition strategy which aims to discredit PM Abiy simply will not work. Nor will one that blasts PIA for entering into a peace agreement. Nor will one that plays with the words ‘negotiation’ and ‘deal’ after broader tenants of a peace agreement are known. Nor will one that misleadingly tries to convince Eritreans that Eritrea’s sovereignty has been sacrificed. Now will one tries to play upon reliegeous sentiment. Nor will one that pretends not to understand that words used and said by political leaders against their former enemy are expected to be different before and after a war.

        • saay7

          FishMilk:

          Good morning! Since I am not a politician with expert knowledge of what works and doesn’t work in Eritrean politics, and since Awate is blessed to have so many who do know (FishMilk, Semere T, @george, Saba, just to name a few MashaAllah), I will just focus on the facts for today. And then maybe the experts can share why these facts are irrelevant to the Eritrean people. Please note that “the Eritrean people” includes those who have directly and recently been victimized by the “Eritrean government.”

          Fact: there are thousands of Eritreans in prisons, some underground, without having spent a day in court.

          Fact: there are thousands of testimonies from Eritreans that they were tortured, assaulted by named individuals in the Eritrean military, and that a fact-finding team has determined that this was done with knowledge and approval “at the highest levels of government”,

          Fact: Ethiopia’s prime minister has many attractive qualities that make him an effective politician and (but?) he is a serial flatterer.

          Fact: this same Prime Minister has a security background, and his job as part of the ruling party’s executive team must have brought him information of the cruelty of the Isaias regume

          Fact: Whether as a tactic or strategy, he has chosen to turn a blind eye, to Isaias’a rap sheet. This is consistent with his forgive and move on advice to everyone,

          Fact: the Eritrean President has said that “from now on” anyone who said Ethiopians and Eritreans are two peoples is far from the truth; a statement that the Ethiopian Prime Minister translated to his audience as “one people in two countries”;

          Fact: the Eritrean President did said that he has given full authority to the Ethiopian PM to “lead us”, a statement that the Ethiopian PM translated to his audience that he had been given responsibility that he will carry out, because he will have the wise counsel of his older brother.

          Fact: prior to departing to Ethiopia, the Eritrean president addressed the graduating Sawa class and told them to not relax their state of readiness.

          • FishMilk

            Hi saay7. In regards to ‘what works’, now why in the heck would you wish to rely upon us, when the opposition has been just quite simply outstanding in regards to ‘what works’ over the past two decades. Equally impressive, is the oppositions understanding and interpretation of facts. In this regard, they continue with their exemplary work!

          • saay7

            FishMilk:

            It’s called sarcasm. Why would I get advice from people who are deaf blind and mute to the screams of their people?

            Hey Abi: there are two shows and one TV. What to watch?

            1. World Cup, it happens once every four years;
            2. Televised lessons in love: it happens once in a lifetime.

            In this soap opera, yesterday, Isaias clutched his heart when he heard kind words, and he, plot twist, got an engagement ring which, after a meek objection, accepted. Who knows today may be the wedding?I need your help.

            saay

          • FishMilk

            Hi saay7. I will lay off a bit as I now see you becoming aggressively offensive, which has not been your forte in the past (I admittedly have a knack for it). Enjoy the game and the rest of your Sunday!

      • iSem

        Sal:
        how is the confederation and non confederation not related to human right,why the divorce. They are related in a sense that if u ask Eri directly or thru their reps ( i know they do not have) they will oppose it. If u ask the G-15 they will oppose it, if u ask the ppl thru the private papers they will ask uf u ask the lowlanders they will oppose it. IA is doing this alone, without talking to his colleagues and u should care about it because, human right is liked
        and who are our partners? I did not get it, if u cannot I will try tomorrow after green tea:-)

      • Selam saay,

        All the things you said are true.

        The harsh question is, what are the other choices for eritrea? The hard facts and the painful reality is that eritrea is not going in the right directions, and the people in eritrea have reached their limit of endurance, the country has emptied of its youth, its future is in a precarious condition, and any solution other than the present reality is welcomed by the people in eritrea, as we saw.

        It is not easy to be in their shoes and feel how they feel. How long can they continue to live in this difficult situation? Because they are afraid to complain, it does not mean they like it, and they are showing it, for example, by leaving the country in droves.

        At last even the deaf and blind dia has come to understand the reality, and the only solution he found after trying rich arab states for so long, is rapprochement with ethiopia. What ethiopia can give depends on what she has to give, and it depends on what is to her national interest. That is only too obvious.

        Ethiopia’s existential danger is much more theoretical. She has been to the extreme edge of the precipice on many occasions and she has come back in one piece. On the contrary, eritrea is just a click away from chaos, or she has to stop to breathe in silence.

        If there is any chance for freedom and human rights in eritrea, it is only if the regime opens the door to the world community, because behind the iron curtain, as we saw up to now, that chance has been illusive for so long. If there is going to be any change in eritrea, this, most probably, is the the first chance we have seen after so long.

        What brought eritrea to this point is the arrogance of nothing is impossible under the sun, our way or the highway, we are self-reliant and we need nobody else, we are different, etc. Unfortunately, the real world is harsh, and the regime is being forced to compromise for the sake of peace it ignored, and for the sake of eritrea’s economic wellbeing, etc.

        Finally, as long as the crimes of the regime cannot be attributed to the culprits in a court of law as things are today, peace may bring with it democracy and justice to the land, so that the culprits may at last face justice.

      • Amde

        Saay,

        PMAA yesterday gave “final warning” to his opponents. With a smile.

        We don’t know yet the line(s) which will trigger his repressive side (all regimes do). But so far his instinct has been to freedom and the liberal side.

        I do not think we will be in a situation of the early 90s when TPLF allowed the PFDJ squads free reign. But who knows.

        It will boil down to the nature of the post-Isayyas PFDJ.

        Amde

        • saay7

          Selamat Amde:

          Yeah, I saw it. It wa not the last time but “perhaps the last time.” It must be the influence of his “older brother” : everywhere that man goes darkness follows.

          Post IA PFDJ. Again, Kbroms view makes sense to me: IA May announce that he will introduced the stalled constitutional process and even announce that he won’t be a candidate. But as usual there will be no timeline or deadlines. It now appears that what he wants is the title without any responsibility.

          Remember when Qatar was mediating the Djibouti crisis, a Qatari journalist asked him how that process is going and he said go ask my brother, the Emir of Qatar. About his own country. So I expect a lot of go ask my brother Ethiopian Prime Minister on all tough questions going forward.

          saay

    • iSem

      Hi Horiz
      A lot of ppl are salivating athe prosect of ye bar ber, but the idea for engineered confederation will be the end of Eritrea and of Ethiopia.
      Nations change, they separate or unite and especially our two countries their long history is irrevocably linked and so bossom relation that can lead to unity in teh long long term is visible.
      But to talk about confederation, despite the damage done to the Eritrean identity by PFDJ, the idea of confederation will repeat the history of annexing Eritrea by HS and am sure what it did to Ethiopia
      But if the process takes a natural evolution after decades of close economic and cultural ties, that is different thing
      Eritreans have been betrayed again by Ethiopia as PMMA sanitizes IA,he could do his trade and hugs without painting the veneer and his St. Paul speech of love. IA has finally came full circle to a project he started 48 years ago, brokered by CIA
      Eritreans now have been given the last chance to redeem their Eritrean identity , an identity they paid so much and if they let it go, then they will for ever bow their heads. But now we have former freedom fighters, who fooled us they were for justice area getting their hard on. For us the only positive outcome of this is that the danger of war that was hanging is no more, so little piece of mind and we have no one to tank expect TIME, that creation of God that arbitrates when it feels like it. PMAA is a fad and his love will only carry him so much.
      IA has just t handed the leadership to PMAA, a guy who is canonizing IA and for that he will pay for it and ur country will pay for it and it will be done by the ppl who dared in 1961, and voted against union and sparked the bullet that almost ended Ethiopia
      And what is confederation but a watered down union that will ultimate jell to union
      I except PMMA to give IA full access to hunt down the opposition and life will be hell for them

      • Selam iSem,

        Do you still think that ethiopia is salivating for yebahr ber, after showing you in practice she can live without one. The problem lies with eritrea and not ethiopia, if she can keep and defend it in the future, or we may see new owners that geopolitical needs my bring to the scene. International law….yes, up to a certain point. Already, it is said that eritreans can not move around freely in assab. Maybe it is time to worry about other actors, and not ethiopia.

        If confederation is going to bring the end of eritrean identity, eritreans who care so much about identity should fight it by all means possible. Nevertheless. let me ask this, the few things i know about canada (i think the country you live in), has french and british communities, how much is the identity of each group affected by the federation? How much have you stopped to be an eritrean, because you live so long outside eritrea?

        You do nothing about the actions of dia, and you do not have even a united front against him for over two decades and you accuse ethiopia, because in your opinion Eritreans have been betrayed again by Ethiopia. Ethiopia has to work with what eritrea and eritreans provide. If it is dia, it is dia. Here is somebody, for good or worse, happens to be what eritrea provides as an equal partner for peace,

        You said “ur country will pay for it and it will be done by the ppl who dared in 1961, and voted against union and sparked the bullet that almost ended Ethiopia”. Sorry to say that this is empty bravado. Nevertheless, this time you come by yourself and you will leave by yourself. Ethiopia is not going to sacrifice a single soldier to keep eritrea within the confederation if there is going to be one. She cannot be foolish for the second time.

        • iSem

          Hi Horizon:
          First, it is fact that Ethiopia proposed without Eritrea’s border, but without this peace deal and the uprising expanding Ethiopia was on the verge of contagion chaos. So the next fact is ,it needed economic reforms badly and not tomorrow, but today. And PMMA and others cooked this behind not minding the Eritrean fight against their butcher and Ethiopia just made a deal that will increase his repression and stifle the opposition.
          PMMA is working for Ethiopia’s interest as he should and I have being saying that for as long as I start commenting, I mean any leader should work for the interest of Ethiopia. But also PMAA has moral obligation to mind the justice seeking aspiration of Eritreans, he can do his deal without hurting that. This hugging and kissing, almost both bending backward and both mentioned unfettered access and we know what that means.
          Now to Ethiopian blood, really Horizon, no Ethiopian blood was spilled in the last 20 years to fight IA,but Eriteran blood has been spilled to get you were you are, to give you Abiye by helping TPLF to come to power so they could create EPRDF, which created the const that allowed Abiy to coast on its current
          My sense is this:
          this Abiye honey moon will end,people be tired with his message of love without much love on the ground, the glamor will subside and back to reality and someone will invoke the article of separation,what ever it is and the potential of Ethiopia, its unlimited potential will be in danger.
          I am not accusing Ethiopia for forcing Eritrea to confederation this time, u rightly said that you come or go own your own. But IA want this confederation, he hinted it in 1993 and he was clear about it now. and Abiye was cleaning his speech:-)
          I am saying that the intention of IA is to squash Eritreanism and PMMA is helping him. He could have his Asseb acces, I am for it, he can have his trade without aiding and abating him.
          Eri is hanging from the edge of the cliff, but Ethiopia is still not out of the woods, it cannot just bring itself out of its mess my words of love ad we have heard the veiled threats.

          • Selam iSem,

            If you push dia in to his narrow corner, don’t you think that you may make him more aggressive and vicious? On the contrary, as PMAA is doing, if you bring him out in to the limelight, don’t you think that it might be much easier to tame him? Having him among the world leaders may make him more of a normal person, as long as there is no way to get rid of him.

            If you think that this peace endeavor is meant to save ethiopia and it is not for the benefit of eritrea, i have nothing to say. Ethiopia could have solved any problem she might have in many different ways, and peace is the result of so many other factors that have nothing to do with saving ethiopia. In other words, there is the right time for everything, and this was the right time for peace between ethiopia and eritrea. Don’t you think that as things are between ethiopia and eritrea, anything ethiopia does will bring condemnation by the one or the other side in eritrean politics.

            Ethiopians are used to hearing we (eritreans) liberated you. The naked truth is that if the derg has not made the grave mistake of making enemy out of almost every ethiopian, we would not have been discussing this now.

            If you insinuating that tigray may invoke article 39 to secede, (i see no other), all i can say is, we wish them good luck. We saw how attractive independence is in the case of eritrea, and anyone else who wants to go the same way will have a worse fate, not a better one.

            Two countries hanging from the edge of a cliff, and each one working hard to push the other over the precipice has been their history and continues to be, and therefore they are better of if far from each other than together. I hope PMAA will not entertain or accept the idea of confederation, or whatever presented to him.

            Indeed, the infatuation and the love will soon be over, and let us hope that, after all, it was not too much ado about nothing, and something good may come out of it.

      • Fanti Ghana

        Selamat iSem,

        Confederation under duress is nothing but a soft invasion. It should be rejected by all just minded people. What we are now hoping for is that Eritreans will be able to live and work where they please. They should be allowed to work in Ethiopia without any hindrance. Ethiopians in turn will have additional alternatives of access to the sea.

        At the same time, let us all heal. Let people be people instead of cannon fodders for a change. Hard working Eritreans working in Ethiopia are as important to Ethiopia as they are to Eritrea. I hope we all have grown enough to have learned the lessons of the 90s.

        Once the recovery is underway, to federate or not should be left to future generations if they so wish. Besides being untimely, any decisive decision such as federation has to come from the Eritrean people and there are no mechanisms by which they can be heard at the moment.

        “I except PMMA to give IA full access to hunt down the opposition and life will be hell for them”

        That will not happen! It is contrary to all that PMAA is. His personal profile indicates he is a peace maker. He truly believes in all that he is saying and doing. What is more likely is that he will try to reconcile all factions to include them into the one harmonious region he envisions.

    • Blink

      Dear Horizon
      While the Eritreans show you their love it doesn’t mean they are all in this game . I think this website reconciliation thing is going off the grid with you guys . The Ethiopians showed their love for Eritrea just to show their hate to TPLF and I think it will be a mistake for this site or any Eritrean site to host such attitudes inside because we know that is not true feelings, what is true is the need for peace and that has nothing to do with with what you guys are looking . You have been in this site for years and know the pain of all these forumers , haven’t you even considered any sensible way ? I think you should have known better than this dictator smile to attach to Eritreans wrongly . I hope there shall not be any idea about confederation or any kind of that thing with Ethiopia for the coming 100 years because we have still not healed.

      • FishMilk

        Hi Blink. You are 100% correct in this regard. To now talk of confederation BS, PIA giving away Eritrean ports BS, the ring BS, plagerism BS, etc; is indeed rather petty given the overall peace process between Ethiopia and Eritrea and how this benefits each countries citizens. Eritreans need to give peace a chance while at the same time pressure PIA/PFDJ for much needed reforms and accountability.

    • Admassie

      Selam Horizon,

      The reconciliation we are witnessing with the speed of supersonic in the relation of both countries is very symbolic. The shower of love both leaders splashing over both people is also visible in the response. We are really socked and thousands times kudos.

      The stories coming out how families affected in both countries by the forgone statuesque is just a scrach. We may hear a lot forthcoming.

      The enemity that enslaved us for so long is getting evaporated. The obsession both making the other side crush and seeing crumbling in misery is now gone.

      Now we are breathing hope of peace and feel serene with all sides of our neighbors, a new story in our history.

      These all is good, really good. We need to uphold and work vigorously to maintain it.

      But, while we are working at it and fostering the betterment of our relationship, we need to avoid the temptation of making another mistake, any hastily glued bondage, such as confederation.

      1. Good God, we have not lived a single day yet as good neighbors do since our separation. We both need to breath the peace independently first.

      2. We both have a lot of baggages we need to sort out first.

      3. We both are uncertain about what the future holds. We are not yet standing on a firm ground.

      4. We need to give bothe our people time and space to taste what their life independently is while maintaining their good relationship.

      Let us wait for the time of reality. Let the dust settles.

      እፍ እፍ ያሉት ፍቅር የያዙት ቸኩሎ…

      Admassie A.

      • Selam Admassie,

        It became a topic of discussion because kbrom mentioned “confederation with ethiopia, and about supporters and opposers of this possibility”, and having in mind what pmmz and dia had said in the past, i said it was possible and plausible that such scenario could be in the making. Otherwise, i completely agree with your position. Burnt once ethiopia should be twice shy, about federation, confederation or anything else. Peace and economic cooperation according to international laws and norms should be what the two countries must concentrate on, and nothing else.

        • Admassie

          Selam Horizon,

          You concluded:
          Peace and economic cooperation according to international laws and norms should be what the two countries must concentrate on, and nothing else.

          Thank you. That is the best what we can do now.

          Admassie A.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Admassie,

            I was reading your exchanges with Horizon for few minutes and was dumbfounded. This kind of madness, confederation, federation with Eritrea is a known poison pill for Ethiopia.

            I was baffled by saay’s take yesterday. Perhaps there is something stupid is going on we might not be aware of.
            I just hope, our side at least, discuss the options to chart a modest realistic approach for lasting peace for the sake of both people.

            Mr. K.H

          • Admassie

            Selam Kim Hanna,

            First, I follow your take on issues quite for some times and I like to read you.

            Weather Confederation or other form of marriage between both countries at this stage is unrealistic. I do not know if this is on the menu (my instinct tells me not) of the discussion of both leaders. But, that is insane.

            This unfolding honeymoon is a gesture of our wish for peace. When it comes to the implementation we do not know if all stake holders are working in goodwill and how grudges and old wounds will play out.

            If respect and understanding is to reign through time, the situation itself shall call for what ever bondage is necessary. But for now we need time to heal wounds and be normal neighbors.

            Admassie A.