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Perceptions & Values: Transforming the Eritrean Minds

Begin challenging your own assumptions. Your assumptions are your window on the world. Scrub them off every once in a while, or the light won’t come in.”  —Alan Alda

If you ask an artist what is the most difficult subject to paint while retaining true likeness, you are likely to get the answer, “myself” said Peter Stark. The most distorted lenses of leadership are “those lenses through which they view themselves” and the most challenging aspect of leadership is “their readiness of taking feedbacks about their ability”. Leaders with false perceptions regarding themselves and how others see them, usually reject critics and feedbacks. They are always, defensive, angry, and retributive in nature.

Leaders must be “learners, goal setters, open to feedback, and change with circumstances to advance their leadership and goals of achievements”. Good leaders stay future-focused, always maintain a positive vision of leadership success, with the change they set with their teams, making clear to the benefits of making changes. Good leaders also recognize “the potential of individuals, and hence motivate them to continue to learn and grow, in order to raise the bar and harvest more success in their endeavor”. Lao-tzu had once aptly said that “he who knows others is learned and he who knows himself is wise”. Our nation needs leaders who know their limits and understand the capacities of others around them to capitalize and utilize them for the common good of their people. Unfortunately, the Eritrean individualism spirit did influence to produce the nature and quality of leadership we have at the helm of power. The effect will be felt for some time in the struggle between “individualism” and “collectivism.”

Leadership and Self-perceptions

The demands and expectations of political leaders have never been higher in the opposition camp in particular and in the Eritrean political landscape in general than any time in our generation. Leadership is about envisioning and conveying a clear vision to your followers in particular and to the public in general. Their views have to be not only on the present crises but also well into the future opportunities.

At awate and elsewhere in the Eritrean mass media of the opposition camp, there were debates on PFDJ; and there are these perceptions that PFDJ is not an organization, PFDJ does not have institutions, a one-man organization is not an organization or a party per se, all to blare the nature of their enemy and to emasculate the strength of the resistance forces against the regime. Movements and activists who do not know what an “organization” and a “party” entails, movements and activists who are not able to evaluate the strength and weakness of their enemies, movements and activists who do not understand the ideology and the political philosophy of their enemies, could not have a clear vision and a strategy to mobilize their people to defeat the PFDJ party and to dismantle its institutional organs that suffocated the Eritrean people for decades.

The Role of Individuals in An Organization

If politics is defined broadly as competition for power over people and things, then clearly all societies have some sort of political system. Therefore, it is naïve to say there is no a system in Eritrea. Equally, all society recognize the political leadership of some sort. And here where it comes the role of individuals in an organization, in which individuals will have authorities to make decisions concerning their organizations or their nations as a whole.

Individuals could have the abilities to shape the attitudes, behaviors, and the worldview on the members of their organization in particular and in the public in general. Individuals could have the abilities to indoctrinate the members of their organizations in the ideological philosophy they envisioned for their organizations and by extension for their entire society. EPLF’s history clearly demonstrates that kind of political culture, with no exceptions as we have seen in the dipole ideological competition.

The process by which individuals legitimately acquire a political office or authorities could be by succession, or by-elections, or in small forging societies by personal achievements than by-election, and thus, in such societies, individuals may become a leader without a vote. It is simply because the society has proven his ability more than the others by which everyone tacitly agrees on the leadership of the individual. Mesfun Hagos once reflected the same impression in one of his interview as to why Issayas was their leader throughout Ghedli and later on the national stage until the fateful date that Issayas has incarcerated his colleagues.

Issayas had cultivated and elevated in to a power, way back during the Ghedli era, in which he forged an organization in his “image” and his “political philosophy”, that gave him the perception within the organization as the “great achiever” andsomeonee who has proven his ability more than any member of the organization. That unwarranted accolade he received within the organization make him the only leader capable to lead EPLF organization. Unfortunately, EPLF also projected the same perception to the Eritrean societies after independence. The Eritrean people especially the Highlanders started to worship him as deified mortal – a mortal hero worth of worship. There were even days people were murmuring and talking in the streets of our cities “Beynu Endyu Ezi Sebeay, mesarhiti Yeblun.” The Highlanders idolized him as the only leader capable to lead and govern the nation of Eritrea, until his government started encroachments on religious institutions and “national symbols” that unite the Eritrean people, jailing their religious leaders, taking their children to endless modern slavery, creating state-controlled economy to benefit his party loyalists, and changed the norms and way of their lives.

Now PFDJ is successful in transforming the “National army” to “PFDJ army” the “National security apparatus” to “PFDJ security apparatus”. They have successfully politicized the most powerful institutions of the government that ought to serve the Eritrean people and the Eritrean state. Under such circumstances, to mislead the Eritrean people that PFDJ is not an organization and is running the state of Eritrea without institutions is a baseless argument and has no the elements of truth.

Different Time Produce Different Leadership

Different leaders are produced in a different span of time and place, dictated by different situations and circumstances. Leaders produce change and create future viabilities for their people and their nations. They do it by providing directions, aligning people, and motivating their organizational members in particular and their citizens in general. They provide direction by establishing visions, developing the strategies, and coping with the change that the strategies could provide them. They align people by communicating the direction, engaging with the people for the implementation of their strategies, and building commitments of the people towards their projects. They motivate the people by putting their plan into a slogan, coaching and empowering their staffs to all levels of their organization, and recognizing the success of individuals in their assignments.

None of the aforementioned strategies and directions can be accomplished without organizational skills who sets goals and operational plans, and who could develop Plans, policies, procedures, and systems for monitoring the operations.

The current Eritrean political organizations lacked these kinds of qualities of leadership and organizational skills. Quoting from Heraclitus: as “you can never step in the same river twice,” the Eritrean political landscape cannot be led by the same leadership and the same mentalities. In its broadest sweep, two kinds of change are quintessential to bring change in the current leadership of the existing organizations (a) the old guard should pass the torch of leadership to our young generations (b) The young generation should get leadership training on leadership capacity and conflict resolution skills. I am aware that Some of our civic organizations can get the resources (fund and trainers) from international organizations for this project.

The ‘Placebo Effect’ in Politics

Conventionally in medicine, the placebo effect has been thought of as triggering a self-healing using fake drugs. How does it work? Suppose I take a sugar-pill (candy) believing that it is a pain reliever and that belief causes my brain to release endorphins. Endorphins are specialized receptor-cells that are primarily found in the brain and spinal cord that blocks the transmission of pain signals. Similarly, in politics, the placebo effect is how our expectations can bend realities, and how minds change minds. In politics, the placebo pill is “hope.” We instill hope to follow human being to have a positive mood, block the signals of despair, and alters your behavior in the present. Hope creates a positive mood about an expectation, a goal, or a future situation.

The cognition associated with hope, how we think, and when you are hopeful, are the pathways to desired goals and reflects motivations [Snyder, Harris, Anderson, 1991]. That is why, “better problem-solving abilities have been found in people who are hopeful [Change, 1998]. Besides, there is a co-relation between hope and emotions. Lazarus has explored the role of hope as an emotion and as a coping resource against despair. Hope is better understood as a cognition that creates a positive mood [Lazarus, 1999].

Coincidentally, Saleh Younis, in his latest column AlNahda wrote, Eritreans choose hope over fear and love over hate. One hopes his premises to hold true. He talked about hopes with an enveloping moral culture on the clashes of social vision in the Eritrean politics – the Eritrean people against the government’s socio-cultural policy. This edition of “Tebeges” reinforced his claim, hope as a weapon against despair to bend realities towards the expectation of the Eritrean people. Instilling hope motivates people to fight for their rights even if it asks the ultimate sacrifice.

In conclusion, I will leave my readers with these two provoking questions (a) Can we administer our differences to govern ourselves equitably? So far, no signs of competence to justify that (b) Do we celebrate our diversity as a force of our common identity? No signs of admirable cooperation among themselves.

 References

 – Lazarus, R.S, (1999) “Hope: An emotion and a vital coping resource against despair, pp 66, 653-678

– Snyder, Harris, & Anderson (1991) “The will and the ways: Development and validation of an individual differences measure of hope.” Journal of personalities and social psychology, pp 66, 570-585.

– Chris Berdik, (2013), “Mind over mind: The surprising power of expectation.”

Saleh Younis, (Nov. 2017) “Eritrean choosing hope over Fear and love over hate.”

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  • Ismail AA

    Selam all,

    It’s very sad to be devastated by news about passing away of compatriots such as Haile Woldetensaie. One wishes such persons to remain alive because their career in public domains make them custodians of facts of history to which, under despotic rule, people lack access. The people await their testimonies with anxieties because they would like to know the truth for themselves and for posterity.

    Haile was one those who knew the ins and outs of the ruinous border war that will make up a sad national story and shall narrate who was responsible for the death, injuries and disruption of lives of thousands. It was possession of details of that story that landed him in dark dungeons and left there until the last breath of his life. May he rest in peace.

  • ሚንስተር ሃይለ “ድሩዕ” ወልደትንሳኤ፡

    ብሰላም ዕረፍ።

    https://youtu.be/35Ou8EPFJb0

    AmErigiጻጸ

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  • MS

    Dear Awatista:
    This is a comment I made under Habtom Yohannes fb page where he initiated a conversation on the occasion of the passing of former minister of foreign affairs, Haile Weldetnsae (Drue). I have no resentment towards the person quoted in my comment, (BerheY), I have respect for his overall disposition. with that off my chest:
    First, my condolences to The family, his comrades, and friends. RIP Haile Drue. I was on the phone with a mutual friend, and this friend told me that Haile has been figuratively dead for the last 17 years. “If notable heroes such as Drue could be shipped away from public eye for this long without significant repercussion to the government, then, that is the real death,” he explained. The following message is not about you, I know your firm stance on the issue, but I will bring it to elucidate how murky and uncoordinated the political opposition and anti-PFDJ activism have become, in many ways, costing the fight for justice dearly. My grievance starts here): It is disheartening to see some “opposition elements” tarnish the organization and the ideals people like Haile Drue fought for just to invoke them for convenience. I have scanned the social network, and people who were tarnishing and bashing EPLF in its entirety are now shedding crocodile tears. They want to use Haile Drue for convenience while debasing, diluting and desecrating the values that he and his organization fought for. Sometimes this discordant attitude comes from people you thought were level-headed. I don’t know what ticks people to feel free to make generalizations but here is one that I got this morning on a different platform:
    “Let me make my own general assumption. It has been my experience that any person who was member or supporter of EPLF in the past and PFDJ today that they think and believe that, they are the only kind of Eritreans who think and believe to safe guard the nation and the country as one. The fact is the opposite, they are the real threat to the unity and peaceful existence of the country and the people.” In such a manner he is writing off a whole generation and its extension.
    Mind you, I don’t doubt the good wishes of this man, but we are in this directionless situation that people vent their frustrations to the easy picks. I’m sure he does not deny Haile Drue was among the few who played a crucial role in the liberation of Eritrea, but we are in this directionless vicious circle of finding easy scapegoats.
    Finally, I want to remember Haile Drue, the vibrant man he was. He liked basketball, and he did have his own team in the Cadre School he was running. In this video (check at 59:20) he jumps on stage to get his trophy, 1987 in Arareb. The occasion was Eritrean Cultural Week where artists from within the EPLF, Sudan, and from Eritrean communities in Barka, Kassala, Sudan, Port Sudan, Maria Tselam, displaced civilians under the EPLF (enda hzbi), etc., performed and competed on arts and sports.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b2zMvw_m94
    We can make a forward-move in challenging the system that has kept shipping Eritreans to prisons and holding them incommunicado only if we embrace the ideals Haile and his comrades fell for. Otherwise, we will remain shopping for identities and values. Sometimes those values may not be congruent to the values mainstream Eritreans expect from the opposition. And my criticism is not directed to all elements of the opposition but to those few spoilers who thrive on the weakness of the opposition.
    Clarifications:
    1. The man I quote is not from the spoilers but had a bad day, maybe.
    2. As I said above, the criticism is not directed at you. I really intend to have a more in-depth conversation.
    Manage

    Eritrea, Football and Bahli in Meda1988.wmv
    YOUTUBE.COM

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Mahmuday,

      Very sad news. We failed to secure their lives from the beast. In any case, what we have to do is: ተቃላሳይ ይሐልፍ እቲ ቃልሱ ግን የቅጽል ኢልና ህይወቱ ንዝኸፈለሉ ቃልሲ ብትብዓት ምቅጻል እዩ ዘድሊ:: A hero who did not die in the prison of an enemy has passed away in the prison of our own beast. When will be the end of such kind of tragedy? Rest In Peace our hero who gave everything including his life to the freedom of his people. A sad day and a sad news for justice seekers.

    • iSem

      Hi MS:
      I have not heard of the passing of HD. I will read your comment and catch up on the news and I offer my condolence to you and his family and all freedom fighters
      Haile D has been imprisoned by HS, Dergi and now by his friends, he defied the two Ethiopian regimes, twice with the help of freedom fighters inside and his connection he was able to rejoin this comrades. The irony, he could not do that, he could not free from the regime helped created and he dies suffering with debilitating diabetic, blind as Eyob Bahta told Elsa Chirum
      My brother Saleh Younis once asked that IA like G. Washington maybe the first president of Eritrea, but were are the Madisons and Jeffersons and Monroes of Eritrea?
      As your friend said HD has been dead for 17 years, we knew has lsot his sight to diabetic.
      I know you are a hopeless dreamer (compliment) but there is not future for a country that kills its Jeffersons and Madisons. and even worse if that killing does not incite outrage and uprising. Eritrea has just again proved us right that it is at the grip of hooligans: worse than Dergi and HS and the apartheid and any dictator in our region

      • saay7

        iSem:

        The source for this information is “Sacctism” and he reported on 2/19 that Haile DeruE died on 1/25. That is: it took one of our more reliable sources of information 26 days to report an extraordinary piece: that one of Eritrea’s founding fathers had died. This is testimony to the fact that the IA regime has succeeded in creating a police state where, in a very small country with small population it takes nearly a month for Big News to travel out of the country, if it does at all.

        my condolences to the family of Haile Derue: anything more does nothing but add to their grief. Warning: as a moderator, if I hear any mealy-mouthed defense of PFDJ with “ጌጋታት ኣይግበርን ማለት ኣይኮነን” or “ ህግደፍ መላእኽቲ እዮም ዝበለ እክዋ የሎን” or worse, a quick fake condemnation of the regime just to pivot to change the subject, or or an attack on a man who never was tried or had an opportunity to defend himself will get the full brunt of the delete machine for undefined time while the family is mourning.

        saay

        • Dear Saay7,

          How can the ‘move away from a victimised state of mind/being’ initiative be reconciled, particularly on moments such as this? Who are those that can steer the wheel, at these junctions, towards our next imperative stage? Who are those who baldly provide a straight narrative by giving dully focused attention to momentous happenstances such as the passing of Eritrea’s Minister Haile “DuruE” Woldetnsae?
          Though cognizant of awate dot com’s current period of transition, I am of the opinion that there would be no conflict of interest for an extensive front page coverage dedicated to the Minister Haile “DuruE” WoldetnsaE.

          Twenty six days late for such news is not greater sin than the thirteen days and more that followed with mundane perfunctory statements or actions. Still counting

          Amergitsatse dot com

          Regards,

          ጻጸ

    • iSem

      Ok Wedi Saleh:
      You are conflating two things: Like a defense lawyer whose case has collapsed he puts the persecution on trial, you bring the opp into this. It is about the death of HD, who fought to liberate Eritrea and was killed after 17 years of torture and PFDJ and IA, EPLF, choose one, whichever u like is/are he killer/s and the opp has no part of this and should not even be mentioned, u should condemn the killer, u did but you conflated the weaknss of the opp and the spoilers, even the spoilers, their hands are clean from the death of HD. Disappointing.
      Ok, maybe the opp tried to spin it, big deal, spin, massage to make a point, why and that is equal with murdering? you made it equal by conflating them with the crimes of PFDJ. Maybe the spoilers are hypocrites , maybe they are exploitng this tragic event, but the focus and energy must be on PFDJ, and EPLF, the parent, and if EPLF was so good (no one said, no good men or women were not present in EPLF, give me one who said) they suddenly suffered amnitia and forgot their angelic ideals in Sahel. So no matter of how we try to isolate EPLF and PFDJ, we cannot, I wish if we can and that was at the essence of the G-15, time for change they said and they paid for it.

      • MS

        Selam Semere
        Regarding EPLF, PFDJ and Drue connection, those who have understood my messaage have got it, those who could not will never get it, how much i clarify it. So, let me pass it that way. We can retrun to it on another day. The few spoilers i target don’t carry the essence of the mainstream opposition. They are spineless spoilers who thrive on the weakness of the opposition.

    • Kokhob Selam

      Dear MS,

      Very sad news..RIP.

      RIP..to all prisoners..who dead while they are arrested ..without any crime..That is how things end when we are not doing our duty –united..

      KS,,

    • Thomas

      Hi MS,
      This is like a bomb, you hit us with worst news without warning. I was shocked by the news & the way you announced this tragic news is inappropriate. Please know this in future.

      • MS

        Selam Thomas
        Thank you, and I completely understand your point. Just to be clear, I was not breaking news- at least, that is how I understood it. I came to read about it on fb because I was tagged by Habtom Yohannes (this is public, nothing secretive about it): I made a couple of personal phone calls just to make sure. Now, I read from SAAY that the primary source was sactism. But I get your point. Also, thanks to SAAY for the ground rules you laid down about this topic.
        regards.

    • Kbrom

      Dear All,

      May his soul rest in peace, and for the family and friends – comfort through the love of God.

      AT

      I strongly believe that AT has to have a set of rules outlining to the forum the guidelines on discussing issues related to the news of the passing of someone. The guidelines could be framed in the context of our social norms and religious rules and responsibilities of, or proper practices to, that include ethical, honour, and moral codes. That I believe would help us to set a standard in the AT so that we all know what could be expected of us in such a terrible situation.

      Ethics is the activity of man directed to secure the inner perfection of his own personality. Albert Schweitzer

    • Kebessa

      Mahmuday,
      Thanks for sharing the terrible news. If the passing of the giant is true, may he rest peacefully.
      May God give his family double of the strength for their duoble suffering – the passing of their loved one and the unusual circumstances they receive the news and mourn.
      It is truely sad there is no consequences for this kinds of heinous actions. So much for an organization that boasts about past practices of criticism and self-criticism!

      • Haile S.

        My condolence to the whole Haile Weldetnsae (Drue) family.

        Kebessa,
        Nothing can go without consequence. Yes these ruthless deeds remained without consequence for so long. You never know …. certain deaths knock better than others, hopefully…..

    • Selamat M”da best” S,

      “All I need is one Mic..”

      The Admiral will tell you, back in da dayz, perfunctory was considered this:

      Political Prisoners
      https://youtu.be/NW55FRXlPEs

      Amergitsatse dot com

      AmEritrean gitSAtSE Azillo40 Agnyeya40 Acres and a Mule

    • Berhe Y

      Dear MS,

      I don’t know why and what compelled you to include what I discussed here in AT in FB. Anyone who doesn’t know the context of the discussion may not get it what I was trying to say. But it’s ok with me.

      It’s really sad to hear the death and murder of Haile DuruE in the country he helped liberate. Ezi klte mot eyu zibehel. Mengiste semayat yewarso.

      Berhe

      • MS

        Selam BerheY
        Anything I say here is public. You can quote me as you wish, and I’m okay with it as long as that quote is accurate. Where I cited you, I did not include your name (although it would be perfect to do so) and I did not malign you. My focus was on the quoted part, not on you or on your overall views. I hope that clarifies things.

    • Tesfu

      Hi MS,
      Who gave you the right to announce his passing away at these form and did you consulate with immediate/ extend family? if they get a chance to read the news what will happen to them. Have ever thought about that.
      you won a trophy.

      • MS

        selam Tesfu
        Out of respect to everyone, I will repeat what I said before to Thomas. I was not breaking the news. Also, in my introduction, I alerted the reader how I had come to know about it. Now, I edited that introductory sentence to include the source of the conversation. It is a fine line between wa9tig until the family announces it [which is rare in Eritrea in this type of situation and celebrating the lives of these heroes]. I would choose the later because experience has taught me the government is not going to hand the family the death certificate. If any family member asks me to take it down, I can erase it from fb and from this forum.
        The only entity that has to be blamed for all these confusions and suspicions is te government. It is to be blamed for holding these people for 17 years incommunicado. It has to be held accountable for not allowing their families to see them. And it has to be held accountable for not updating the public about their whereabouts, health, fate, and if they die about the circumstances of their death. These are public figures and discussing their circumstances is in the public interest.
        Regards.

  • Kebessa

    Good Sunday everyone
    Great news out of Rwanda. With 20 medals, our nation dominated the just concluded African cycling championship.
    It is also worthnoting that Ethiopia is making good progress in cycling.
    https://mobile.twitter.com/afroroadchamps/status/965227795059232768/photo/1

    • blink

      Dear kebesa
      Yes , it was a glorious competition for Eritreans and Ethiopians. Eritreans are at a great advantage for such tournament. They have dominated for 8 years in a raw. They have cyclists at a very high level with European teams and also historically they start from a very good position. Eritrea has to push for more quality women teams . https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3b93ed5ff7a1df06c7adbbdb6cbaff50fcc070635b03db2521117cc0f48f4230.jpg

      • saay7

        Blink:

        I think they should rename the African Championship the Eritrean Cyclists Showcase. It is absolute domination, at least on the men’s cyclists, year after year. And I saw your comment at the Rwandan paper:ኣይትኾሪ ባ? When winning be magnanimous; when losing, be a good sport. Right?

        Saay

        • blink

          Dear saay
          I thought the word dethroned should have been to the other teams not to Eritreans. Any way great game .

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Saay and blink,

            I was thinking the same way, we should be proud. But I think, no doubt Eritrea is the power house, but Rwanda has been making huge progress and it’s becoming a great competition.

            If you are not aware Eritrea did lose in tour of Cameron, over all team classification and the last one before that, I forgot.

            Guess who won three times, in a row in a team Rwanda.

            It’s the team that’s going to Paris to participate in U23 representing Africa and not Eritrea.

            And Ethiopia is coming up there specially in the women classification.

            But I think the problem is with US Eritreans we do NOT write our own story but instead we complain when others do it for us.

            Why isn’t there is any article about ERITREAN cycling success. Even ERITREAN media do is translate what others covered or wrote.

            Who is going to tell your story better than you? No body.

            Berhe

          • blink

            Dear Berhe
            Eritreans Men’s record on this competition is just beyond any country if we see the over all records, I mean ,it is only SA that has a similar story . Eritreans smashes this from 2010, U23 4 years conservatively
            1.2010 Daniel
            2.2011 Natnael
            3.2012 Natnael
            4.2013 Tesfom
            And over all men’s Team time trail from 2010 to 2016 team Eritrea has all Gold . The achievements of Eritreans is 8 times and this is just beyond any African team outside SA . May be the woman team was not as of now but in General they have impressive numbers.

            Reporting, well it was in Ruwanda and it is expected the Home news media to have an advantage and we can’t really say much on why Eritreans doesn’t have their own News crew with camera because Issaias can’t see the benefit of it but you are we should write about them .

          • Berhe Y

            Dear blink,

            I know the ERITREAN cycling record very well, and I was not disputing at all.

            All I was saying was, Rwanda has come a long way out of no where and they are poised to be great team as well.

            ERITREANs are doing great and it’s only for one reason only, hard work.

            But, but all these success has to do, in my opinion because of Daniel. He opened the flood gate in 2008 (17 years after ERITREAN) independence when he started winning all the African championship.

            anyway it’s all good.

            Berhe

          • blink

            Dear Berhe
            Because of Daniel? Come on ,it has everything to do because of the cycling history in Eritrea.

          • Kbrom

            Dear all,

            Some times one is tend to ask why can’t we be a loyal opposition; by loyal I mean whilst strongly opposing the acts that we do not agree with the government, to be able to remain loyal to the sovereignty, identity and national pride of the country, so we can foster people’s ownership of the sovereign matters.

            Why do we see sometimes people fail to draw the clear line between the brutal regime in Eritrea and the sovereignty that belongs to the people, land, and sea of Eritrea? For example, falling short to call for the demarcation of the border, ignoring the success of Eritrean sportsmen and sportswomen or attributing it to the regime as if it is the PFDJ’s ownership.

            BTW do we know that:
            Eritrean Cycling Committee was set up in 1936
            in 1939 an Eritrean by the name GebreMariam won the cycling champion
            In 1951 an Eritrean by the name Woldemchael WeldeMariam (aka Berbere) won the African Cycling Champion
            In 1956 Eritrea sent two cyclist to the world championship held in Australia

            That tells us that PFDJ is a footnote in the history of Eritrean sport, it is developed by the people to the people. Yes, we can think how many Daniels and Meksebs have been drown in the Mediterranean sea and the deserts of Libya because of the pFDJ’s brutality, however that should push us to work hard to stop the PFDJ and not be indifferent to the great success of our children and grandchildren.

            Congratulation Eritrean Cycling Team in Rwanda!
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/52d48ad503429cfb3a51eed2336afdb10ae4c56a02b168078634ed876603904d.jpg

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Kibrom,

            I am not sure your reply was to me or not.

            Assuming it’s what I wrote, I am sorry if you got the sense that, as a person who oppose the PFDJ regime, that you thought that I do not know or appericiate, the hardwork, the history and acknowledge the success of ERITREAN and not loyal to the country and the people.

            I grew up living and breathing ERITREAN cycling. I know a lot of the past ERITREAN great the likes of Yemane Tekeste, Kibreab Redie, Biniam Berhe, ZereaGhabir, Beraki and others on a personal one to one level.

            My comments were to blink how he was somehow offended the way the story is told about the current Eritrean success in Rwanda. I was trying to tell him that, we should not take Eritreas wins for granted and we should also appericiate others as well who are doing their best. Like I said I know how hard the past ERITREAN cyclists done, but no body was able to reach the pinnacle of success Daniel has reached.

            I believe if it wasn’t for him and his success, I think it would be great but it would have remained mediocre like the rest of anything in Eritrea today. For example, one can make a similar argument about the history and success of ERITREAN football, specially during the time of federation, and even HS and Derg. Now, thanks to PFDJ, every possible ERITREAN footballer wants to use the opportunity to leave the country.

            Reading history of Daniel, specially what he has to go through while he was in Europe and he decided to continue to sucrifice and have not decided to defect and chose life in exile like most others, is huge tremendous feet in its own. Now that he has opened that gate, he has inspired, generations of ERITREANs to follow.

            Having all this, I personally do NOT think and there will NOT be any ERITREAN, specially an opposition to the regime is not proud of ERITREAN athlets.

            I am not sure your comparison and your general assumption is accurate.

            Let me make my own general assumption. It has been my experience that any person who was member or supporter of EPLF in the past and PFDJ today that they think and believe that, they are the only kind of Eritreans who think and believe to safe guard the nation and the country as one. The fact is the opposite, they are the real threat to the unity and peaceful existence of the country and the people.

            And I think this believe is the real problem that is causing us so much harm to our people, in the past, today and continue to do in the future. I personally think, those former EPLF or affiliated to EPLF are the reason our oppositions are in disarray, because they come with that baggage and misconception.

            Berhe

          • MS

            Ahlan BerheY
            Forget the politics of it, whether your assumption is correct or incorrect, but use caution and discretion, please. If you write off Eritreans who were in someway affiliated with the EPLF, that will be the end of the conversation. Keep the conversation ( nmen HIZKA DE’A ADI KT’ATU IKA?). Honestly, most ex-EPLF are in the silent majority because they don’t want to join organizations that consider them SPIES, at least that is my position as to why I decline to join political organizations, and those who have joined the organized organizations could not swim well in the turbulent seas of the opposition.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Mahmuday,

            ንኸይትበሃልን ንኸይብሉኻን ኢልካ ካብ ትአምነሉ ቃልሲ አይህደምን እዩ:: If you believe in collective struggle, why should you avoid yourself from being part of the collective struggle for fearing of being called spies? You could only disprove them by your commitment to the common struggle and your contribution to that effect. I do not expect from you to have that position, for a man who gave your entire life to free his people from foreign and domestic oppression. People can say anything to you and make their own judgements, but history will absolve you by your deeds and acts attributed towards mitigating the suffering of your people.

            Regards

          • MS

            Ahlan Emma
            Let’s agree on the Def. of the terms:) I think it will be helpful to define political organizations or organized political opposition, as I use them interchangeably. These are organizations that are lined up according to specific political programs. They are organizations that aim for seizing power either individually or in coalition.
            Now, a question to you. Are you a member of any? If not, does that throw you out of the realm of God given right to oppose what is wrong? I don’t think so. I air my views in different forms (articles, commentaries, debates…) and the rest is up to the reader. Depending on their positions on different topics, some may place me in the PFDJ camp, others in the opposition, and that’s fine with me. I owe it to my conscience to express my feelings/views regardless of their sellability. To me wrong is wrong irrespective of who commits it.
            Dear Emma, I hate to elongate this topic because, I know, you know it well. But suffice to say that the idea of opposition means different to different people. If we are to narrow our understanding of what exactly each of us mean by opposing PFDJ, or if we want to narrow down the understanding of what change means to each of the opposition factions/clusters, then we need to be able to carry out a respectful conversation. That was what I wanted to get across as far as my reply to BerheY is concerned. I have great respect for BerheY, we occasionally disagree and that is OK. But I did not expect such a broad-brush disapproval of a big chunk of our people.
            BTW: eta naay lbey tfelTa iKa, so brother if you have an idea of where to apply for membership, please forward it.

          • Thomas

            Hi MS,

            I am sorry but your “gebar” and “hizbawi genbar” attitude is always there. Twenty seven years after Eritrea’s liberation, you still are the tegadaly you were before 1991. Mind me when I tell you this, “that is the way it is, things will never be the same” –TUPAC. You are now a civilian and act like one. You were tegadalai for 20-30 and we became a civilian for the last 20-30 years. I advise to deal and catch up with your civilian life because you will never be “tegadalai” again:)

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Thomas,

            In my book, tegadalay means one who struggle to bring changes, be it during the armed struggle or in the current struggle. Those who are fighting to bring changes in Eritrea being from the old generation or young generation at this time are tegadelti, that includes yourself and tes….etc. It has no meaning beyond that.

            Regards

          • Thomas

            Hi Amma,

            Yes, but I was only saying the mission of tegadalai that is to liberate a nation is no more now. We have an independent nation, but enslaved or oppressed people now. So, we have a civilian movement to uproot a dictatorial regime. It is every Eritrean civilian who is oppressed and wanted the oppressors to go. What I don’t like the halewa sewra kind of thinker tegadalai. People use their minds not their guns or sticks to discipline their kinds this time. The I went to hell to liberate the nation, but you were not there so mine matters kind of thinking:) The tegadalai thinking, the Mahmudai thinking:)

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Thomas,

            Do not complicate the essence of tegadalay. It has simple meaning as I have stated it in my earlier comment. Second, recognize that Eritreans are fighting by both means to bring changes, whether you believe in it or not. Third, because we are independent, it does not mean we can not fight by armed struggle, if all the peaceful means are exhausted. The Ethiopian struggle to topple the Derg regime is a good example. Fourth, we have to accept each other to fight in the way we believe in. Do not condemn others because they don’t agree in the way you chose to fight for. Fifth, we are debating to convince each other.

            Regards

          • Thomas

            Hi Amma,

            I don’t understand why you think I am complicating “the essence of tegadalai”. I was only addressing to the Mahmudai’s approach that he was attacking every method of fighting against the dictator. Not only me but most people here have expressed their concern of Mahmudai’s soft spot towards the major enemy. Most all his stands are similar with the oppressor’s back in asmara. I can mention his stand on 1) sanction 2) COI 3) on our Eritrean opposition residing in Addis or elsewhere.

            About Tegadalai definition, I think I see you twisting things here. You are only stating meaning of “tegadalai” in tigrigna. I think you surely know I was mentioning the way of the EPLF tegadalai talk and that is the way of pre-1991 EPLF talk and I don’t expect for you to know this because I don’t think you were there.

            I don’t know if you have read me saying this, but I am up for every means to fight the current enemy. They came through the power of guns and there is no easy way in getting riding of them. So, I support our ethnic or non ethnic group fight the number one enemies with/o arms effectively.

            Again, to me there is a difference between the mission of tegadalai between the pre-1991 and post-1998. If you hate calling it a civilian movement, you can call it the pre-liberation fighter (tegadalai-1) and post-liberation (tegadalai-2)

          • MS

            Ahlan Thomas
            Always same Thomas, self-talking.

          • Thomas

            Hi MS,
            Thank you for the response:)

          • tes

            Selam Berhe Y,

            The problem with the x-EPLFites is as you put it precisely. Not only guardians though but they are undemocratic, dictatorial and are worst (03) – rumours news.

            I tried to contavt many and the time they start to talk, they focus more on “Person-to-Person Relationship” than ideological/principled relationship. And they have a tendency of dictatorship in every communication.

            The first time Mahmud Saleh phoned me, he used ‘Mahjus”. This superiority tendency was the most effective means to know who Mahmud Saleh is.

            tes

          • Nitricc

            Hi Tes; I mean to tell you that after I watched your horrific and very stupid YouTube video, clearly politics is not for your. You don’t have to embarrassed you self or waste your time. Do something better that has value to society. I am just tell you because no one will tell you the truth. if I were you I will Delete the videos immediately. you suck at it bro.

          • tes

            Hi Nitricc,

            Kemey aleka?

            By now, I thought you are a grown up man but I was wrong. For how long are you going to be a st***d kid.? Your mentor, Saay& gave-up watching you growing without purpose. Wake-up my little(not young) bro.

            tes

          • Nitricc

            Hi Tes; No need to be defensive. The videos you made will come to hunt you. After those debacles no one will take you serious. I mean where do you get that time to do that kind garbage? Aren’t you doing something valuable, like Scientist ? You should have thanked me for telling you the truth. May be you should stick to your greatest asset ” rearranging a cafeteria chairs” huh? Scientist my foot.

          • iSem

            Hi Tes:
            Welcome back:How are you?
            Now Manjus was an endearment term, so I am sure MS used it as endearment. I do not know its genesis , it sounds arabic but no one called me manjus in sudan excepet an Eri tegadaly. MS or Saleh G can tell us. What I know is it is used as let us say as a generic ghedli qbTirot. Do not read into it too much. But u should worry about the Gebar, used derisively as inferior, gebar endiyu nqhat yeblun, he does not know even his own interest
            What video is Nitricc talking about, can i watch it?

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Berhe Y,
            .
            First congratulations to the handsome cyclists whose joy was infectious.
            I wanted to share a personal antidotal experience. In mid 60s there was a cycling competition that was organized to go to Bishoftu road and back.
            In Addis around the stadium, we the neighborhood kids and fans were lined up on the street to root for our guy. I believe, our guy from Gurage ethnic group, in case anyone remember his name Mamo or Molla or…, made his name in Addis as a champ.
            .
            In the 1st place we were surprised at the start that about half of the competitors were from Asmara. The others were mainly from Addis.
            When they came back to the final finishing line all we could see was our guy surrounded by 5 or 6 Asmarinos.
            It was so frustrating to see our guy in such a predicament. We yelled his name from the top of our lungs. I can’t remember the end of it, perhaps one of the Asmarinos must crossed the line first. The memory left was Asmara must have a lot of cyclists.
            .
            Mr. K.H

          • Berhe Y

            Thank you Kim,

            I don’t know if you had a chance to visit Eritrea but here is a recent documentary about cycling in Eritrea and you get to see a glimpse of the country and the people and cycling culture.

            https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2cuMvnpxW38&feature=youtu.be

            Berhe

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam k h
            Except hailu fana( he was eth national team member) all the cyclist in the national team were eritreans (than ethiopians from a place called eri).before 1991.yamane was the best of the best by the time .he dead in sudan after the race.

          • blink

            Dear kibrom
            Now you have crossed the line of some people. Now you are officially PFDJ according to their only marketed lines. What do you think the whole problem of Eritrean opposition? They don’t have the main ingredient of the things you said. If they cared about sovereignty and celebrate the success of Eritreans, well at that level I and you will be shoveling the hard work for them sir . The young could not find any tast so the opposition is dry .

          • Berhe Y

            Dear blink,

            Can you tell me a single ERITREAN who does not celebrate the success Eritreans?

            How about we use some hard facts and statistics? Why do you say to the 99.98 who voted for Eritreans independent?

            Berhe

          • Nitricc

            Hi Kbrom; you said ” Yes, we can think how many Daniels and Meksebs have been drown in the Mediterranean sea and the deserts of Libya because of the pFDJ’s brutality,” I mean aren’t we all responsible for our own actions? What PFDJ have to do with it. The country went to war and the then to the court. The court has spoken but not only the Ethiopians refused but held Eritrea hostage under no peace and no war. I mean what else supposed PFDJ do? the youth had three choices, one defend the country. two, fight the PFDJ system and three, leave the country. The one who decided to leave lost.

          • Thomas

            Hi Nitricc,

            From someone who knows nothing about Eritrea or Eritreans and from someone who have mental challenges remembering or retaining lessons learned, it is expected to hear stupid claims as you clueless bluffed:

            “the youth had three choices, one defend the country. two, fight the
            PFDJ system and three, leave the country. The one who decided to leave lost.” I know you are dummy, but the youth were already taken to a nonsense stupid war and tens of thousands died for nothing. This happened while the country was lead under the same merciless dictator. Now, you seem to be asking the youth to defend you imaginary enemy? How stupid can you be? The more you open your stinky mouth, the more you are repulsing humans!!

          • Nitricc

            I have no idea why you won’t leave me alone. The more you open your stupid mouth, the more I respond; we are bringing this forum to your level. There is nothing to learn from you and your best contribution is bringing the worst of people. However; I don’t expect you to understand the youth and its responsibility on a given period of time. Since you have to go half the glob to find a wife half of your age, I understand your longing to be youth. You are nothing but a stupid fat old man. You are a waste of Oxygen.

          • Kbrom

            Dear Nitricc

            PDFJ has a lot to do with it. You spoke about the choices the youth have right now. This comedian below has different opinion. In case you do not have time FForward TO 10:00

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbNPI83rTG8&feature=youtu.be

          • Haile S.

            Selam Kbrom,
            You said “… For example, falling short to call for the demarcation of the border, ignoring the success of Eritrean sportsmen and sportswomen or attributing it to the regime as if it is the PFDJ’s ownership…” The issue you raised is very crucial one that deserves a serious consideration. It is something that lingers in the minds of many of us, I imagine, in addtion to being the first smack that you opposing-the-regime receive in its bruit unpolished form from PFDJ diehards. The regime appropriates everything that smells success in Eritrea stretching from the supposedely of eritrean heritage who died 180 years ago to the appearance of elephants in mereb-tekeze area passing by Tiffany Haddish including the fight for sovereignity of the nation. If tomorrow an Australopithecus Denkeliansis is discovered near TiO, the regime will be the first to count its ancestry to it. Because of this instrumentalization and expropriation of everything successful, anything the regime touches becomes almost untouchable (ሓራም) and creates unease in talking about the issues. Making it worst the regime banned all news outlets and media that does not see things through the regimes eyeglass. The independent media is the dissiminator of such news and pride and a link to the public’s delight. When such news comes covered by the regimes impermeable veil, it looses its luster and fragrance even becoming, unfortunately, repulssive to some.
            But your interrogation and call is spot on. The opposition organization news outlets as well as us the ordinary citizens should attempt to dissiminate and highlight such events by surgicallly dissecting it from the PFDJ private ownership. However, it is not an easy task given the enormous weight the regime puts on the back of eritreans.
            As you just briefly summarized, based on the longstanding history of cyclism in the country, Eritrea is well placed to institute the “TOUR D’ERYTHREE” that could play in the different very suitable terrains of the country and potentially periodically stretch it to that of the neighbours.

          • Kbrom

            Dear Haile, Berhe and all

            Let me kindly clarify what I posted earlier and apologies if I created any misunderstanding.

            My post was not related particularly to the Rwanda cycling results; it is a cumulative observation which emanates from the concern whether many of us are falling unknowingly in the trap of the PFDJ’s political psychology strategy.

            PFDJ’s mind game plan is to provoke the perception, cognition, and attitudes and motivation of people – both of the silent majority and of the opposition – by what Haile articulated it as ‘instrumentalization and expropriation of everything successful, anything the regime touches becomes almost untouchable (ሓራም) and creates unease in talking about the issues’.

            መንእሰያት ኤርትራ ናይ ዳንኬራን ኩዳን ውሉፍ ኪኸውን ዝግበረኡ ዘሎ ምኽንያት ብዘይ ውዲት ኣይኮነን። ሎሚ ኣብ ጽርግያ ሰብ ይስዕስዕ ተሎ ከም ንቡር ርኢኻ ምሕላፍ ኣብ ጽርግያ መጽሓፍ ዘንብብ እንተርኢኻ ድማ ከም ዘገርም ነገር ዕጉግ ኢልካ ምርኣይ ከምዝኸውን ኮይኑ ኣሎ።(ስእሊ ተዓዘብ)

            It is by design that the PFDJ over – celebrates the full calendar year, so the people would fall in his agenda instead of shaping their own course of talk and the walk of their talk. The Dankeras starts with Fenkil by making it look like its property, shines the people it wants to shine and destroys the heroes of that time by erasing the records and tapes, then the oppo start to insult the heroes of Fenkil instead of saying yes, it is Fenkel but the Tegadelti in the three tanks ( Magula and his comrades) did not give their precious life Massawa to be a ghost town or its islands to be sold to Egypt. (BTW in the last weeks Fnekel a domestic movement distributed flyers and texted such kind of message through IMO and Viber to all senior officials and Generals whilst the official ceremony being attended by PIA)

            The same goes on with Nadew (March) Liberation of Nakfa (March) Referendum day (April) EEBC verdict day (April) Independence day (May) Martyrs day (June) festivals ( July – November) Asmara being added to World Heritage Site, Daniels championship on the Detour De France, Alemsegheds award of the Morland Writing Scholarships etc.

            In the political psychology, one side mostly the oppressor plays the mind game often by employing a subtle but aggressive public relation to specifically demoralise or dis-empower the thinking of the other side, to enable make him look superior and owner of the course of action and the past, present and future success.

            Unfortunately, it seems that the oppo did not grasp the mind game. burning flag that bears the red color which represents the blood of the martyrs, condemning independence day, being indifferent to success stories, arguing whether Tegadalay/Awate was a Tegadalay or shifa is prioritisation of issues at best and dedicating yourself to be the tool of your oppressor at worst.

            Eritrea is made by the Eritrean people, its independence is the fruit of the peoples struggle and dedication of ተጋደልቲ ተጋድሎ ሓርነት ኤርትራን ህዝባዊ ግንባር ሓርነት ኤርትራን፥እቶም ዝኸበሩን ዝበለጹን ሰባት ሓሊፎም ኢዮም፡ እዞም ሕጂ ሃገር ዘበላሽዎ ዘለዉ ውሑዳት ሓተላ ናይቶም ዝሓለፉ ጽሩያትን ሰብ ዕላማን ኢዮም፡ ከምዝኾነ ሓተላ ድማ ኣብቲ ንሓተላ ዝግባእ ቦተኦም ምኻድ ኣይተርፎምን ኢዩ፡ ኤርትራ ምስናይ ስዕረትን ዓወትን ታሪኻ ናይ ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ኢያ።

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/126422de9b2d60ab26e6232fc1403873e284afbf14ed64e70060bec4313485c2.png

          • Josef Says

            Kibrom,
            Thanks for history of cycling in Eritrea..
            I had no idea it went back that far… and I am surprised the Facist Romans let the native compete or participate..
            I guess as long it wasn’t cognitive competition they were ok with natives participating? Wait a minute it is even the same now…
            The picture is beautiful.
            As a former distance runner- I know endurance sport require commitment and discipline and hard-work congrats to folks..

          • Berhe Y

            Dear blink,

            What I mean is, his success in one of the main reason that many others are following through. The history, the physiology, the land scape has a lot to do with it.

            But he was able to quantify that and made it a real success where he benefited and inspired many others to emulate him.

            In other words, do you think the success of Brazil at the world stage has something to do with Pele? Or Abebe Belima in Ethiopia?

            I have no doubt Eritrea will remain the best at cycling great.
            Berhe

  • Kbrom

    Ya Ustazna Alkebir saay

    Aren’t we looking at the position of the prime ministership as if it is played out in an isolated setting. Aren’t we emphasising too much on the personalities and assumption.

    The post of prime minister is something very decisive to the EPRDF, It is an EPRDF issue before it becomes an Ethiopian prime cabinet issue. It comes as a result of how will EPRDF handle the current situation in Ethiopia, the stakeholders, the kingmakers, the balance of power with in the three major players TPLF, OPDO, and ANDM, the votes of the satellite parties (sorry for my language) like Debub Hizboch, the compromising figures, the future composition of EPRDF etc.

    Note that the nomination of PM is done after long power struggle consultation behind curtains; the reason that the EPRDF opted to hide the death of PMMZ for 17 days was because of such a sensitive nomination issue.

    TPLF is no more the big brother of the coalition, there is high probability that it will not be able to dictate the terms and agreements of the statements and nominations, it is also probable that the approval by the parliament is not going to be as easy as it used to be,, there is also remote possibility of having a new EPRDF without TPLF. There is also a scenario where a’ real’ and not a compromising PM would come which means he/she is no longer a ceremonial personality.

    Simply put let’s see thoroughly the dynamics that is unfolding with in the EPRDF, let’s see the bigger picture, the nomination of the new PM will be the result of the new political landscape in the EPRDF. If we try to see the resignation and designation of the PMS out of this context there is high probability to mis read the situation.

    P.S
    I do not think Lemma is the only candidate, let’s not forget there are long time prominent candidates such as Siraj Fergesa, Abadula, Girma, etc which will get consensus more than Lemma. Do not forget there is always the tendency of ኣበይ ዝነበረት ኢያ in all organisations that did come through armed struggle. It is not easy for Lemma to get such consensus from EPRDF unless they calculated that he is the man (tool) to subdue the young Qeros uprising.

    Looking forward to reading Amdes deep analysis.

    Just saying!

    • saay7

      Selamat Kbrom:

      I am greatly enjoying ur contribution, as are many others, so thank you!

      Well, I think you agree with me that our people (Eritrea and Ethiopia) don’t even have word for Prime Minister: all we have is ንጉስ or king (see also: ንጉስ አሜሪካ when we want to say IS president) so the PM position is huge, particularly for one group of people which believes “dammit, it’s our turn” and this group happens to be the largest in the country.

      Yes before this is an Ethiopian issue it’s an EPRDF issue and, legally (and they do have to at least pretend they are following the constitution), a matter for the House of Representatives (the lower house) which is also the House of EPRDF. And this House of EPRDF, if it’s done democratically, 60% of its makeup is OPDO + ANDM. So whether it’s Lemma or Gebeya, the candidate has to be the candidate approved by them. But since this is a country when the National Security Complex has done very well in status quo, and since Power never voluntarily yields, we can expect some twists and turns before it’s settled. Lemma DID use the demonstrators to burnish his image and it should not be a surprised for the National Security Complex to run a black flag op to justify the state of emergency. I mean it can’t be because the EPRDF has to meet: jeez didn’t they individually (member orgs) and collectively (EPRDF) just have their congresses? It’s apply leverage time for all parties involved and the leverage (massive demos by the pro-change: massive black flag ops by the forces of status quo may result in confrontation.

      saay

      • Kbrom

        Selam saay

        Re: We don’t even have word for Prime Minister. Do you think so saay? No wehave. We call it ቀዳማይ ሚኒስተር and in Amahric they have ጠቅላይ ሚኒስተር. Actually I do believe both of them are incorrect; ours should be ኣውራ ሚኒስተር because it is not ‘first’ minister it is ‘prime’ minister. I do not know why the Amharic word is ጠቅላይ which is a word for general. By the way how do we call first lady, in Amharic they call it ቀዳማዊት እመቤት.

        Re ንጉስ. The reason that we choose ንጉስ often I think has to do more with the background of our social stratification, which according to the theory of the social dominance is described as social hierarchies. In 18 and 19th century our society use to organize in hierarchical structure, ራእሲ፥ ቡሉቕባሽ፡ ፊትኣውራሪ፥ ቀንኣዝማች፥ ግራኣዝማች፡ ደጅኣዝማች etc. Since the life was mostly under the state of wars and counter wars, that hierarchy-enhancing structure was the best way for the societies of that time to act in a more efficient way on combats. I believe the hierarchy of names and their inequalities were maintained for long time and their legacies have been reflected in our societies.

        Look even at the lyrics of our songs: ንጉስ ፍቕረይ፥ ንጉስ ልበይ፡ ግርማ ሞጎስካ ከም መኳንንቲ, ጎይታ እምነት፡ it is more into hierarchy rather than romance. Even the names had to sound warrior and superior; let’s start with the writer of this post ክብሮም then you have ኣሕፈሮም ጎይተኦም ዓብለሎም ኣስገዶም ኣርዓዶም or in the Islamic names ዓሺፍ (courageous) ኣቢሳሊ ( warrior) ዓሪሽ (a brave soldier) are the result of that dominant tendencies of the 17-20th century.

        ንጉስ ልቢ
        ኣብቲ ውግእ ፍቕሪ
        ውርዊርካለይ ኩናት
        ኣብ ልበይ ዝሽከት
        ውነይ ተማሪኻ
        ብ*ጠመንጃ ፍቕርኻ
        እሱር ፍትወት ኮይነ
        ናብ ትእዛዝ ፍቕርኻ ደኒነ
        more into hierarchy rather than romance!

        *Imagine the meaning of ጠመንጃ is derived from the word ጠብ መንጃ = driving enmity

        ደሓን ሕደር ጎይታ ጽሕፈት

        • Kim Hanna

          Selam Kbrom,
          .
          The hierarchy titles we have used in our region are headed to be the relics of the bygone days.
          It is a pity, really.
          .
          I thought it would be a unique highlighter to our culture to bring it back. Sure, we have to air brush it a bit and set up a protocol for its use.
          .
          Just imagine our current PMHD retiring in Awasa and his neighbors referring to him as Ato Hailemariam. It is lacking something.
          However, if our parliament after a few speeches bestowed on him the title DEJAZMATCH for life, it would have a nice ring to it. His neighbors would simple call him The Dejazmatch.
          .
          Other notables, Girazmatch Abadula or KegnAzmatch Mulatu Teshome and Bejirond Girma Wolde-Giorgis.
          My favorite would be Fitawrari Seye Abraha. We can even do it retroactively and call Ras Meles forever. I am sure Ras Abi won’t object. Just a thought.
          .
          Mr. K.H

          • Kbrom

            ሰላም ግራኣዝማች Kim

            But he main thing is what you did in your life time, isn’t it? ላሊበላ ሄደሽ ከህንጸው ብትሰፍሪ አይገኝም ጽድቅ አለ ባህሪ

            I will wait to hear what Haile S and Amanuel H. would say in this issue, because that culture obliges me to wait what ዓበይቲ ሰባት say before commenting.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Kibrom & Kim,

            Those feudal titles should be transformed with the transformation of feudal system to capitalism system. If we agree with that, then ex-presidents and Ex-premiers must retire with full salary they had been getting when they were in office. By the way this will curve their ego from staying in power.

            Regards

          • Haile S.

            Selam Kbrom,
            This morning having read your far above comment, I had scribbled this (below) in my notebook, but got busy before I post it. Here you go:

            What happen to you 🙂 🙂 mixing ቡሉቕባሽ፡ with ራእሲ፥ ፊትኣውራሪ፥ ቀንኣዝማች፥ ግራኣዝማች and ደጅኣዝማች. The ቡሉቕባሽ is a much lower title that the remaining. It was turkish title formally introduced into use by the italians, unless it was used during the various turkish incursions and brief rules into the highland. The only turkish titles that were adopted by abyssinians were ቱርኪ-ባሻ and its abreged and popularized form ባሻ or ባሻይ. The most recent notable carrying the title ቱርኪ-ባሻ was Allula Aba-nega.
            Now, for prime minister, although I believe ቀዳማይ or ጠቅላይ ሚኒስተር is fitting, based on history, ራእሲ or ራስ appears to carry the power of that function. ራእሲ ሚኪኤል ስሑል can be considered as the most powerful self imposed prime ministers of Ethiopia. The second being PMMZ, both from Adwa. Before ራእሲ ሚኪኤል ስሑል there was another powerfull ትግሬ-መኮነን by the name of ስእለ-ክርስቶስ under ሱስንዮስ who was sympathetic to the portugese and could have been a ‘prime minister’ had ሱስንዮስ stayed catholic and in power. ስእለ-ክርስቶስ was later killed by ንጉስ ፋሲል፡ ሱስንዮስ’s son.

          • Kbrom

            Haile
            Indeed brother Haile, That is why I said let’s consult with our guardians before we jump into more mistakes. ቀደሙ ኣብ ቅድሚ ዋጣ ዝዋጢ ኣይክዋጥን ከውጠጢ ዶ ኣይተባህለን፥ ንስኹም እንዳሃለኹምሲ እንታይ ዘዛርብ ነይሩና።

            ዘይራኽብ ኣላጊብና ብሉቕባሽ ምስ ግራዝማች
            እትን የማን ክንፊ ኮይኑ ዝቕልስ
            እትን ላቔባ ስም ተዋሂቡ ዝግምሰስ
            እንታይ ኣራኸቦም ብሉቕባሽ ምስ ፊትኣውራሪ
            እትን ዓዲ ውዒል እትን ከ ኩናት ኣውፋሪ
            ጡጥን ሓጺንን ምምዛን ዕብዳን
            ዓፍራን ከውሕን ዘይምልላይ እርጋን
            ዓገብ ክብሮም ቲ ካይዳኻ
            ሃይለ ኣይማእመኦን ኩሉ ኣካውናኻ
            ወርቅን ባሊቃን ምፍላይ ካብ ትጻገም
            ቅድምን ድሑርን ምልላይ ከብ ትእገም
            ዛንጡይ ምስ ሓኸለ እንካብ ትሓዋውስ
            ደጊም ከይትቕጽል ብሰማይ ተገዘት
            ሓደው ስርዓት ግበር ሓደው ያዕየታትካ ተወከስ

          • Haile S.

            Selam Kbrom,

            Beware of the historian amateur
            ሳይንሱ ኣቐሚጡ ሳይንስ ካልእ ዝፍሕትር
            ብንባብ ብጽሑፍ ኣብ መገዲ ዝኸትር
            ዝኣረያ ፍልጠት ርኽብ ትርተር

            ዓቢ? ምናልባት ብዕድመ ብፍልጠት ሓፋሽ
            ዝፈልጣ ምስ ኣውጸአ ድሕሪ’ኣ ጎሽ

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Kbrom,
            .
            Fair enough.
            Thanks for the on the spot SHUMET. I don’t deserve it. However, following the “life time” guideline and with a well scrubbed definitions to modernize the titles, I think it is possible to say…..Afe Negus Amanuel, Balambaras blink and Chiqua Shum Nitriic and get away with it.
            .
            I also think I better stop here before the mod. people get after me.
            .
            Mr. K.H

    • Ismail AA

      Selam Kbrom,

      Yaslam qalamak ya sheik.

      I am one of those have been reading in the past couple of days with greed and relish your assessments about the unfolding political developments in Ethiopia. You are not only equipped to capture the essence and dynamics at the core of events that seem to be taking place in fluid and complex social and political scenes, but also with noticeable ease to sifting substance from details . I have learned so much, and at this point I would not be accused of exaggeration if I argued that with our indomitable and sharp observer, Amde, both of you have formed indispensable duo to this forum regarding knowledgeable assessments of the current events in Ethiopia. Moreover, I should add that your views about the debate on “power and resources sharing” with Aman and MS were thought generating, and the fact that your views provoked Aman H’s decision to come out with an article is testimony to the weight and value your in puts on the matter have been graded to.

      As I have tried to state in my rejoinder to Amde’s remarks in the context of my earlier comments, I surmise that Ethiopia, after over a couple of decades under the EPRDF (product of revolutionary era), is in real travail that could measure up to either die in the process or survive to transform to a competent player by abandoning the state control mechanisms its revolutionary past had accorded it and adopting peaceful means sufficient to open space for all stakeholders in the context of a democratic process.

      As you have noted at the center of this game of metamorphosis, would be the way the OPDO would move. The TPLF, after what it has gone through internally, and public relations damage it suffered externally, may only have chance of a kind of spoiler role if it would first re-assert its regional internal unity and be in position of cleverly playing its cards in forging alliances with the smaller (Kilils) and using them to prop up either of the bigger movers – OPDO or ANDM – in ways its interest would dictate targeting more to preservation of economic gains rather than political imperatives it had enjoyed up to now. I am simply stating conjectures, because I still think that the coalition partners should be aware that they amid stormy tempest on board of shaking vessel. Re-assessing their experience and allotting roles in accordance of their sizes and weights would sober them down and realize their future lies in consensus and democratic fair play than opening the country to uncertain future.

      Anyway, people like me are observers from afar. Your contributions and that of brothers like Amde do help us to make sense of what we guess or state by way of interpreting events whose dynamics and intrinsic movers are that clear to us.

      • Kbrom

        Selam Ismail and Horizon,

        Thank you so much, that’s kind of you to say that. Actually it is a two-way road, we are all learning from each other. More over, we couldn’t have done it without the Awate Forum thanks to the AT.

        Let me join you in congratulating Amde’s deep analysis, it is great lesson.

        I do agree with most of the points you raised, i appreciate your elaboration from different prospectives. Just to add few points to what you said:.

        TPLF
        I think for TPLF this is a matter of life or death, thus they will hold on until the last drop. Many analysts’ evaluation of TPLF’s status and the probability of them relinquishing power is very simplistic. TPLF will fight back and is not in its weakest position as people would like to think. Whilst I agree that TPLF is grappling with heightened risk of state collapse that it has ever seen i its organisational life, I do believe people has to remember that the TPLF (still the darling of the west) is hitherto in a very powerful position and has absolute control over the three main apparatus i.e. security and police, foreign and external intelligence and defence.

        That domination gives TPLF a great advantage over any other part. Last week’s promotion of high ranking army officers’ (most of them Tigreans) in the defence forces, and mainly the promotion of Seare Mekonen (wedi mekonen) to the rank of full General shows that TPLF is still in control of the army. Seare Mekonen a close ally of Aboy Sebhat is tipped to be appointed as Deputy Chief of Staff or even Chief of Staff to replace Samora.

        OPDO
        As you eloquently elaborated in your post, OPDO is the choice of the Oromo protestors and especially the youth. So far, the two parties relation is a marriage of convenience , because it was not built over long time and does not have a principled and articulated bond; it is just a result of a historical incident that affects them in their ways. It would not be unnatural if someone calls the protestors to be cautious in regard to the role of OPDO and its would be stands because this organisation has been part and parcel of the EPRDF and many of its members, especially the influential old guards, see their future and accountability closely related to the fate of the EPRDF. OPDO as it is a blessing to the revolution it could be also a curse to it, because hijacking the popular demand is one the remote possibilities.

        PFDJ
        Source indicate that PIA was not that much excited about PMDH’s resignation. There could be many reasons for that (we will wait and see so that we can have an objective and informed judgement).

        On similar topic in the last 5 days, the PFDJ for the first time allowed the leaders of Ethiopian opposition group ( Gnbot 7, OLF DMHET) to have a public meeting with the cadres of pFDJ and some representative of the civilian people in Asmara. The reason behind it is said to assure the people of Eritrea that when (was not if) they come to power they will respect Eritrean Sovereignty. One of the points that the leaders of the opposition emphasised was that ‘ the Eritrean youth have to support them’(what ever that means). (There are some other details of the meeting for the sake of space and time let me leave it there for now).

        TPLF believes that the only way out of this is to establish good relation with Eritrea, several high ranking officials are calling for reconciliation with Eritrea as the ‘Eritrean people are the closest to us geographically and culturally’ according to their recent reports.

        EPRDF
        Having declared the state of emergency before the planned EPRDF meeting tells a lot about EPRDF’s plan. Now EPRDF has declared itself above the constitution it is expected to take several actions including the order of shoot to kill if uprising does not stop. The next step will show that whether the TPLF is still dominant in the coalition or not. I do not believe having an Oromo or Amhara prime minister is indicative by itself, what is essential is whether the power balance is shifting, drastic changes of policies are reflected, whether there is change in the security and police, foreign and external intelligence and defence etc.

        P.S
        Back at home the GOE was not able to pay the salary of civil servants and army because of shortage of 100 Nakfa notes. Last month the salary was paid in 20’s which was a bit difficult. the 100’s are missing from the country, ( could be external sabotage) the closure of 550 business was related to it. the second round of closure has started.

        • Ismail AA

          Selam Kbrom,
          Many thanks for your time. I know it is an extra burden to read and respond to inputs in the way you do. “YaiTik alf Afia”.

          Glad you have the PFDJ factor in focus. There have not been many takes in association to events in Ethiopia. It is more than certain the guys in Asmara are closely watching because they know the possible impact on them of ramifications of how things shall develop. As usual, position of their follow up is from opportunistic vantage point. The reason why they have opened space for the Ethiopian surrogates could prelude to how they will to play their cards – be that in the framework of TPLF court (as you have noted) or other stakeholders. Experience demonstrated the dictators in our capital sets his priorities from top (king-maker’s role) down the rung of possibilities. The balance of power within the TPLF elite could be an indicator to the regime and its future move.

        • Selam Kbrom,

          Tplf is not the giant it may seem, either. It may try to blackmail the different political parties at the eprdf level, but expecting to control ethiopia military with the majority of ethiopians against it, more than 90m of them, however armed it may think it is, is simply playing with fire.

          Moreover, it cannot control ethiopia from the center military, whether it is the darling of the west or not. In actual fact, it is ethiopia as a country that is the darling of west and not really tplf. Tplf can serve western interests as long as it controls the government, and not when it is in conflict with the majority of ethiopians.

          Trying to conquer ethiopia will open the pandora’s box. Tplf’s economic interests will suffer a lot as well, and therefore confronting the whole nation will not be an easy business. Of course a chaotic situation will serve nobody’s interest, especially the ethiopian economy or ethiopia’s security and sovereignty, and I believe that all parties will do their best to avoid confrontation. Nevertheless, because there is a nightmare, it does not mean that one can never sleep or should live in fear.

          As much as going with eritrea is concerned, ii does not mean that the rest will not form an alliance or solidarity to face any danger that might come from any direction. Necessity will teach the rest of ethiopians to come together as we are already seeing. Therefore, ethiopians can only live together as equal citizens and not as masters and subordinates. They have never done so, whether it concerns locals or foreigners.

          • Kbrom

            Dear Horizon,

            I agree with all the points you put as what it should be. One point that we need to make sure is to differentiate what we want to see as Ethiopians, (Tigray, Oromo, Amhara), Eritreans, Kenyans etc and what is happening on the ground.( Out of our control)

            If we try to read the current situation wearing our wish eye glasses, unfortunately it will give us a skewed picture. TPLF has worked for so long time to tightly control the security, defence and police forces by design. It was not even pretending to share power in these apparatus when it was pretending to share power in other areas because TPLF knows the only way that it can control the 84=90-6 million people is by force. Sir, if you think this would not be a decisive factor in the current equation I beg to differ.

            External intervention is another factor. Yes, TPLF is the western countries’ darling and that is helping it. Imagine if what the TPLF is doing was done by PFDJ or even the government in the Sudan, we would have seen 100 UNSC resolutions and sanctions and call for Humanitarian Intervention. TPLF as an organisation has nurtured its relations with some corners, equally as Ethiopia as a strategic country it is has its importance, so the bond is based on the combination of both factors.

            Let’s note that it is too early to declare that the power of the TPLF is gone. Let’s note also that for TPLF this war is a decisive one which they know well if defeated will take them back to the 15 century.

            No question that ‘Ethiopians can only live together as equal citizens’ what we are talking now is how would the major actors play out the game. Major player being the Oromo grass roots.

            It is too early to see the OPDO as the champion of the change, in fact there are several points that should be scrutinised more in the OPDO’ central Committee statement. The OPDO elaborated the problems which is obvious to everyone, but was short of stating what the cause of the problems were and more importantly it was silent on the solutions. The statement talks about ‘new Ethiopia’ but it does not tell how. It emphasises on living together but does not talk much whether the current constitution which is framed on ethnic federalism will continue or not. it does not talk about accountability.

            My point is things are not as simple as we are trying to put them, nothing is ruled out at this point of a time – including the disintegration of Ethiopia – sad but true.

          • Selam Kbrom,

            I agree with your points. Nevertheless, here are my two birr worth.

            We cannot separate the people from the ethnic parties that compose the eprdf. If there is a political crisis between the people and the government, it is only logical to say that there is a crisis between the different ethnic parties in the ethiopian government.

            What I would like to imagine is that at this very moment the discussion that is taking place behind closed doors is a dialogue to resolve the political crisis. Dialogue as you know very well is not about victory and defeat. It is a give and take process, a win-win situation, let us come to the center, and not the one takes everything and the other goes empty hand forever.

            If tplf sees the change in the status quo as a life or death issue, then it has made the wrong choice. If as it is said that tplf can exist in ethiopia only as long as it has complete power over ethiopian ethnic groups (which is equivalent to occupation), then they better liberate themselves from ethiopia and go their own way, for no ethiopian will accept a permanent domination by tplf. It may be painful, but not worse than the humiliation.

            Especially for the usa there are not permanent friends and permanent enemies. They have failed to save good friends like the emperor, and if the derg were not communist, they wouldn’t have had any problem with it. Moreover they have supported dictators on many occasions, as long as they serve their interest. So, everybody, even tplf is dispensable, depending on the situation.

            Indeed, it is too early to speak on the oromo factor in ethiopia. I am not sure if they have crystallized their future place in the ethiopian polity, and what exactly is their ultimate plan. One can say that independence has now lost its appeal to many oromos, but still, there should be a substantial percentage of oromos who have not yet crossed the rubicon of independence, and therefore, no one can be hundred percent certain about this.

            Finally, in my opinion, the disintegration of ethiopia will benefit her enemies, but not her components (her ethnic groups). It is equivalent to suicide, and not anyone of them will prosper or find peace in the unstable situation that will follow. Therefore, if tplf has insatiable appetite for power, then, it should take the responsible that comes with it.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Kubrom and Horizon,

            I have sometime to comment now.

            I do think Horizon points are more realistic than what Kbrom are saying with regards to TPLF and the Ethiopian people.

            What you said “Imagine if what the TPLF is doing was done by PFDJ or even the government in the Sudan, we would have seen 100 UNSC resolutions and sanctions and call for Humanitarian Intervention. TPLF as an organisation has nurtured its relations with some corners, equally as Ethiopia as a strategic country it is has its importance, so the bond is based on the combination of both factors.”

            I do not think this is correct at all. The problem in Ethiopia has not reached a crisis point where such intervention is needed. For example, even compared to the Arab spring in Egypt. May be the number of death can be different, but not like the government is bombing / shelling civilians. The unrest has not reached a crisis point but I think it’s still contained.

            The US congress are pushing for the government to act or else they threatened to pass a resolution. For the US, they don’t care if Ethiopian is from Tigray, Amhara, or Oromo. They are all one and the same as long as their interests are concerned. They will not hesitate to disband anyone or ally themselves with anyone as long as it will be their interest and to some degree that if the people.

            TPLF had the worst record (Extreme Marxists and Leninist organization) to warrant it to be a US ally when they come to power. But the fact in the ground dictated it fir the US and TPLF mend their position and work for their interests and I think it will be the case.

            The best outcome for TPLF is to hand over power and dissolve the government while it stays dominant in millitary and security and safeguard the country and the people. Because it’s easy to dissolve the government but it’s completely another matter with the army and security. But in the long run then it’s dominance should fade out and slowly transition smoothly.

            That’s the only way it can protect the interests of the Tigray people in particular and Ethiopia in general.

            And that I think would be considered a tremendous success.

            Berhe

  • Kbrom

    Dear all,

    14 points of layman’s analysis that need to be considered during our discussion

    1. OPDO has become the organisation that can decide the course of action in Ethiopia, not because it worked for it, but it has the support of the Oromo youth who can make or break the situation in Ethiopia.

    2. OPDO has made both change of rhetoric and shift of emphasis in its official statement namely in acknowledging that Ethiopia’s sovereignty is at cross roads, there is lack of justice, the Unity ኣብሮነት not Oneness ኣንድነት of Ethiopia is vital and time for change and time for new inclusive Ethiopia has come.

    3. OPDO did NOT make it clear that the Oromo people’s problem emanates from the denial of its identity by the ruling parties (former and current), OPDO puts Oromo’s problem like all other Ethiopian peoples’ problem of economic marginalisation, denial of equal rights and justice, unevenly distributed wealth etc.

    4. OPDO is trying to climb two trees at one time; on one hand it is trying to remain with in EPRDF and on the other hand it is trying to represent the peoples sentiment – two symmetrically opposing directions.

    5. The people of Oromo approved OPDO to be their representative because the traditional OLF is out dated and is detached from the people; more over the quest of independence is unrealistic.

    6. The people would wait and see how far the OPDO is ready to travel so that to meet them in the middle of the road.

    7. OPDO is divided into three power houses: those who believe that change is inevitable hence they have to get out of the house of the EPRDF who want to settle their our own new house, and those who say lets stay and reform the current situations and those who hold the stick in the middle to see which way the wind will blows.

    8. Lemma and Dr Abdulahi are the popular faces but when it comes to the real OPDO and OLF or the highly intellectual Oromo academics they might be seen as amateur politicians, as Mengstu would like to say (ጎርፍ ያመታቸው የታሪክ ኣደጋ) who are not even in the first class of the competitors in the Oromo politics.

    9. EPRDF’s fate is unknown that means by extension Ethiopia’s fate is unknown,

    10. Whilst ADNM and OPDO are in the business of injecting new blood (young leaders) the TPLF is literally regressing backwards. TPLF is in a political dialysis rremoving the new and middle age leaders and literally injecting the old blood. Today Aboy Sbhat is the king maker in TPLF. From his unofficial office in the lobbies of Sheraton (accompanied by his two or three blue labels daily) he is driving the TPLF car. Not sure how on the earth an 80 years old man is passing the TPLF driving license quality assurance check list.

    Next few days and weeks we can see the following scenarios.

    11. TPLF will control the EPRDF, appoint another powerless PM and continue to fight for his survival. (Many commentators underestimate/forgot that the power of police and security as well as defense is still in the hands of the TPLF)

    12. TPLF will be an equal power and work on consensus with OPDO and other organization to form an equal EPRDF. No more the big brother of the house or no more hegemonic power

    13. TPLF will be weakened and be a junior partner or expelled from the EPRDF

    14. OPDO listens more to its people rather than to TPLF and become part and parcel of the up rise and dictates the destination of the country.

    Just saying

    • Selam Kbrom,

      A great insight of the ethiopian political situation. Let me say the following:

      Opdo may have finally become enlightenment and perceives that it is the foundation on which the ethiopian polity is built, equivalent to amharas, tigreans, and the rest, and it wants its rightful place.

      I do not think that the problem is the denial of the oromo identity within the ethiopian ethnic federalism, but similar to the rest, the denial of equal opportunity in the political, economic and social arena that is dominated by one ethnic group, due to its arrogance and the philosophy of winner takes all. One should remember, what was said at the start by tplf, if you want for more rights go to the bushes as we did and come back with your guns to depose us. It seems that guns are not always required to bring a change.

      As long as ethiopia is going to remain an ethnic federal state, no one single ethnic party will be able to rule ethiopia alone. That is why tplf created eprdf as a ploy to hoodwink the other ethnic groups. Now, the ethnic parties have matured, have become strong and they are demanding for their equal rights in this coalition.
      Moreover, unless a centralized unitary government replaces the present arrangement, which is out of the question for the time being, one single party which does not cross its ethnic line will not be able to rule, as i said above, and future governments, at least until our people are cured of their narrow ethnic feelings, will be a government of a coalition of different ethnic parties, of course with different faces and hopefully more enlightened people, who are ready for ኣብሮነት (i like the new term you introduced), which in actual fact is what is happening today in this ethnic federation, at least theoretically.

      Opdo’s job should be to reconcile the periphery with the center and the other way round, which is the same for all ethnic parties. It cannot commit itself completely to the one or the other group. From the center it should defend the interest of the people (oromos and other ethiopians), and at the periphery (regionally) it must be able to mobilize the oromo people for a common goal with others (ኣብሮነት).

      If eprdf is to collapse under the weight of tplf, let it collapse. Nevertheless, ethiopians should know that the new government will again be that of a coalition of the different ethnic parties, and not possibly any other arrangement.

      Ethiopia’s fate should not be tied to that of eprdf’s, which is already an ailing entity. Surely, ethiopia can easily have a better government than eprdf, if eprdf has outlived its usefulness. On the contrary, if each one tries to construct his ጎጆ , it cannot be anything else but a ጎጆ . All are strong when together and not when alone.

      Tplf, the emperor, is finished. If it tries to sustain its grip, it will make people more angry and furious, and things could get out of control. I hope that tplf does not want to be the black sheep of the family. Tplf therefore will try to reconcile with all ethiopians, and it may even change itself, for the sake of its own good, the good of tigreans, and ethiopians as a whole.

      • Kim Hanna

        Selam Horizon,
        .
        Good post, I am glad to read your balanced opinions.
        My general observations and understanding goes this way. I am not sure as to what would be the replacement of EPRDF would look like or even if it is desirable. The experimental Ethnic Killils are here to stay. We cannot go back to the old ways to use force for a united Ethiopia.
        .
        There was a time when Amara ethnic group felt and believed they were defenders of Ethiopia and the idea of Ethiopiawinet.
        The TPLF representing Tigray ethnic group chose to carry the flag and wrapped themselves in it in the 90s. Their starting point was different as their name indicate.
        They saved Ethiopia from the brink of disintegration and brought it to the current stage. A much more improved condition.
        In the process Tigray became core Ethiopia.
        Now Oromo political leaders want to raise the Ethiopian flag. If rhetoric is to be believed that is the direction they are headed. The recognition that Oromia as the center of Ethiopia is the way to improve the conditions of its citizens.
        .
        As long as the major Ethnic groups feel and are fighting for the survival of Ethiopia as stakeholders and wear the flag in pride, the politics will sort itself out.
        .
        My concern is primarily the potential heavy involvement of foreigners. Our rich big neighbors are always there to fan fires.
        The U.S and its uninformed (charitably) advice is also a major problem. I hope our leaders have the smarts strength and will to resist them. The U. S is the mid-wife of the Unity government of South Sudan. I wouldn’t be surprised if they pulled out their advice book and recommend a unity government of Sebhat Nega (TPLF) and Ginbot 7. I wouldn’t put it past them, that is the way they operate.
        .
        By the way did you read the fake Facebook news posted and removed that PMHD is supposed to have said that …..he will do what TPLFites would not like before he goes.
        It is unbelievable, to use Nittric’s vocabulary, what kind of African mentality produces and believes that kind of news.
        In any case, we both want what is best for the people of Ethiopia and hope the leaders that have navigated to the top would be able to mitigate the current situation and advance the country forward.
        .
        Mr. K.H

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Kim & Horizon

          Once you disassembled the current states and structure of government (current Federal structure), the Ethiopia we know will not exist. The mistrust of the big social groups namely the Amaras, Tigrian, and the Oromia, is not mitigating rather it is deepening. The only way going forward for Ethiopians, is to maintain the current structure that gives autonomy to the Ethnic states and allowing the opposition to compete on equal level to occupy the central governments. Any political design out of this, will only contribute distabiity at the center and disintegration at the periphery. The Ethiopian diversity is unique in its nature that require special care to keep the coexistence of the social groups to ensure “the state” that protect them from outside enemy, gives the confidence to foreign investment, and keep the current trajectory of economic development that eventually produce seizable number of middle class.

          Ethiopia has showed a big progress except in its politics. In general the political development lags behind economic development for obvious reason. I am from the believers that economic developments are the drivers for political change in a third world countries. Uneducated society like ours do not know as to what system serves them well. Do not give ears to the cacophony of outsiders. Understand your realities and act accordingly to the interest of your people and security of your nation. The Ethiopian success is key for the stability and progress in the region. The current transition of power will not be different than the peaceful transition from MZ to HD. I am optimistic on the Ethiopian elites to come out of this with positive and forward looking for their nation,

          Regards

          • Kokhob Selam

            Yes Aman,

            Perfect Post ,,Very clear and to the point..All what is written here is summarized with your above sound very important and very nice advice ..

            KS,,

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Amanuel Hidrat,
            .
            Your points are well taken. I was one of the folks who believed in the 90s that the idea of ethnic killil was an idea conceived, concocted and implemented by our mortal enemies.
            .
            After 20 plus years of play, the result persuaded me to accept the realty on the ground. The progress so far is promising. Among the positive development outcomes is the ownership of Ethiopia by the social groups. (in the U.S it is like giving social security benefit, once given it cannot be taken back.)
            When did you ever see a Somali Ethiopian draped in Ethiopian flag contributing to the national cause.
            On balance in spite of the difficult issues we face, the country did make a monumental stride forward.
            .
            The anxiety you detect from some corners is the fact that as is with all experiments some place, some time some one can add a catalyst that could derail or change the direction of the journey.
            I am optimistic, like you are of the current crops of Ethiopian elite leaders will protect and move the country forward.
            .
            The rest is, to use your old lingo, the dogs can bark all they want while the camel walks or something like that.
            .
            Mr. K.H

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Kim,

            I love to hear this: “Among the positive development outcome is the ownership of Ethiopia by the social groups.” When all the social groups feel the ownership of their country, it is remarkable psychological change. Once you assure their autonomous right to govern themselves they will feel their Ethiopianess. That is what you are witnessing. It is a matter of balancing the centrifugal and centripetal pulls with in the social forces. You will be okay. It is one of the usual feeling when the “state ship” rocks from the conflict of internal variables and ends like little earthquake shakes with no damages.

            Regards

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam aman h
            Make sense make sense.
            First U said “the mistrusts of the big social groups is not mitigating rather it is deepening” and now u agreed and said ” among the positive development outcome is the ownership of ethiopians by the social groups, when all social groups fell the ownership of the country, it is remarkable psychological change and that is what u witnessing.
            U like to use this so called “mistrust” to divide people among “social groups”.aren’t u(tplf)?

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam TA,

            Is is difficult to understand that being having the feeling of owership of Ethiopia can not make them free from having mistrusts? They can feel common owership of Ethiopia, but can still have mistrust on different issues without going in to detail.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam aman
            U mean the feling of ownership of thier kilil or ethiopia? If u talking about ethiopia ? U don’t make sense based on ur above comment?
            How u gonna solve the mistrust between tigrains themselves? I mean between adaw , adigrat, temben and so on.

          • Kim Hanna

            Teodros Alem,
            .
            You are really getting down in there. O.K o.k all our people are suspicious, what do you want from us. Are you sure you are not a Gojame.
            .
            Mr. K.H

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam K H
            Not all people suspicious no sir.
            Even u guys tried to make it look like it for the last 27 years but no as u try to make it look like.
            Yes how do u know am gojeme. Am just kidding but i love all ethiopians and all eritreans except tplf and it’s supporters.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam aman h
            The big social groups namely the tigrian? Tigrai is just 5%(-walkeyet) and there is no people live with them in tigrai(99% who leave in tigrai r tigrians)and there is no economically important to the rest of ethiopia so if u see ethiopia poltics through just ethnicity tigrai is just nothing , not even compare with afar state.
            The only importance i see from tigrai they can benefit from the relationship between eritrea and the rest of ethiopia( if they humble up they can be a bridge using sameness of language as a translator or something)

          • Kim Hanna

            Teodros Alem,
            .
            Why do you want to demean and insult the whole people, translator or something ? Did you read any history? Do you know the 5% you use still translate to 6-8 million people. I can name you ten countries with less people in them. Israel and Eritrea, so what does that mean?
            .
            Mr. K.H

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam mr kh
            Now days i think u guys become so sad( wode besohal). What makes u think saying 5% or translator an insult? Let us say gurages r 4% .that is not insult and am 99% sure nobody complain about it . ur enemy is yourself, not me
            Did u say history , r u talking about geez history? Can u show me any wrighting evidence in different language.anyways keep it for urself .even everybody knows the truth we Don’t Need It( the new generation don’t need it to share any ).
            Sorry for makes u sad.

  • blink

    Dear Alex
    People who call for a militaristic change are all going to kill someone and one of the people who call for Military solution is Mr.Amanuel . Do you know who the distribution agency for Foro is ?

    • Kokhob Selam

      Mr. blink..

      Watch at your words,,

      KS,,

      • blink

        Dear KS
        Which one ? I will delete it if I don’t have any thing behind it.

        • Kokhob Selam

          Mr.blink

          I am after your “any thing behind it.” I hope you got me..

          KS,,

          • blink

            Dear K.S
            You do know I disagree with you on many issues but these issues can never be the reason to not respect you . You know I do respect you KS for many reasons but pls don’t ask me to put him on your coat , that is unfair sir.
            But that’s the truth, I have a screen shot of his Facebook page with a story of Foro telling lies about EPLF and Mr.Amanuel distributed it . I have no interest in annoyance but he must know there will be a consequence for supporting lair accounts.

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Selam Alex,

    If you seperate the hate of “a system” and hate “to members”, and if you stick with hate to “the system”’ you will be a healthy contributor to the current struggle.

  • Selam All,

    Fortunately, the chance for a coup d’etat is more or less impossible in the ethnically federated ethiopia. Even if the army is involved, which is also multi-ethnic, the chances of its success to bring a dictatorial military junta like the one in egypt are also minimal.

    I believe that ethiopia will come out of this crisis unscathed, more democratic and with a hopeful future. Whoever comes is forced to deliver, and not to quench his thirst for power, at least theoretically. Those who could ascend power through the barrel of a gun as in the past, have lost that power today. If one ethnic group rises to dominate power, no doubt, it will find all the rest standing against it. Nevertheless, what worries me is the democratic rhetoric before coming to power, which may ends up in an undemocratic situation or a semi-democratic one. Only too common.

    Eprdf is rotting from its core outwards, and it is time it is reconstructed and modernized by getting rid of the old generation of corrupt officials, whose brains are full of junks from the sixties and seventies. This is a new age, and in the present world, whoever remains behind will wither away and is forgotten. It is time for the young, educated and the open-minded, and not for the rusty minds and power obsessed oldies. Their place is in history books and not in offices at the ministries, etc.

  • Selamat Saay7, YZ and all:

    ‘Eighteen years’ “she said softly.”
    ‘Eighteen years’ “he repeated.” ‘And I swear I been walking every one of them. Mind if I join you?’ “He nodded toward her feet and began unlacing his shoes,” Beloved, Toni Morrison

    +I noticed the agreement in the call by both, of the necessity to progress in the same direction. Whereas YZ confirms the Quid-pro-Quo, from the inception of the “divide”, throughout the load-up, build-up and current state, has been and is counter productive, Saay7’s statement identifying Two victims who continue to utilize identical regressive traits and modus operandi to be scrapped tottaly, preceded it.

    However, I cannot help but read YZ’s, and Saay7’s for that matter, i.e. both esteemed gentlemen’s corresponding with one another as perfunctory at this of their open voicings towards the in dire need for a dynamic paradigm shift to our intra-Eritrean politicking.
    How so? Or the reasons behind my choice of descriptive the reader may request…

    – In the english alphabets, between SY and YZ are Three letters, UVW, of Four characters. Closer look, we see four characters that resemble the english characters U or V, ትግርኛ ሀ or arabic numeral V for 7. The W is of Two welded/conjoined Us or Vs, hence the sounding “double U” or “double V” depending on english or germanic language user(s). NOW, never mind UVW, all the alpeph Ba Ta s with the exception of the X. X preceding the Ys in SY or YZ. Enter
    Abbu Ashera Weapon X – Evolution
    In Y2 Eighteen Years. Untying the shoes…
    The Imperative GLOBAL Narrative ’18…IΠ i^.

    Call it a case of severely attention malnutrition deprivation syndrome, if you like. In an impending article either at the new (as of 2/14/18 LOVE the look) awate global or gitSAtSE media….the parsing methodology, if you will.

    AmEritrean GitSAtSE Azzilo40 Agnyeya40 Acres and a mule.

  • Kbrom

    Dear Amde and saay

    Should it be Lema or not Lema, or should it be addressing the root cause?

    I read today an article titled ‘Ethiopia: End Game? (sound familiar, no it is not by PIA it is by Bronwyn Bruton). Since Atlantic Council’s motto is ‘working together to secure the future’, I was hoping to see some constructive points that suggest the way out, however I found the content – including the name calling style of the writing – not to match perfectly with AC’s mission of ‘in-depth analysis and incisive commentary’.

    No to my two cents taking.

    It has been two years since Ethiopia has been indulged in nationwide civilian disobedience. Many believe that the root cause for the popular discontent is the ethno-linguistic federalism that marginalised and discriminated particular ethnic groups, with a consequence of widespread human right violations, which in turn led to more and widespread protest, political unrest and international condemnation (though not as it should be).

    The EPRDF (mainly the TPLF) has its own version. For the ruling coalition, the problem is simply a failure of administration, largely attributed to mal-governance, grand corruption and absence of synergy between local (ክልላዊ) and federal government. Thus, the EPRDF is not showing any sign of fundamental political reform except making cosmetic changes.

    More over, some high profile personalities in the EPRDF believe that, what is unfolding in Ethiopia is a result of its ‘rapid two digit economic development’; according to Ambassador Kasa Tekleberhan, Ethiopian Ambassador to USA, the economic growth which ‘heralded’ progress in opening many universities and introduced great tax collection system without preparing enough jobs for the young graduates is one of the main reasons.

    The main reason that the situation in Ethiopia is worsening is because of such a kind of EPRDF’s state of denial and delusional evaluation. TPLF thinks that just because it went to Mekele and has sought apology from its people, all political and socio economic discontents are solved. ቢኣዴን thinks that Bereket Simon has apologized and all its problem is gone. Accordingly, the EPRDF believes everything is ‘under control’.

    Based on its recent evaluations (ጥልቅ ግምገማ) the EPRDF believes that making some changes including the release of prominent prisoners and some gestures of extending an olive branch to the country’s marginalised communities’ leaders would suffice.

    The EPRDF hopes this gesture to lead to easing tensions ‘dramatically’. It is also planning to set up series of peace dialogues with opposition organisations – though with selected one – mainly with the more liberal faction of Oromo.

    The main point of this comment is around this scenario.

    I do not believe such sort of round table discussions, accompanied by the spirit and letter of EPRDF’s unrealistic reading of the current political landscape will address the root cause and fruit a sustainable solution for Ethiopian crises. Recent history tells us that several such peace negotiations and discussion have failed to address the root causes and concluded with much more worst scenarios and unsuccessful results.

    The Comprehensive Peace Agreement also known as the Naivasha between SPLA and Sudan, the Eastern Sudan Peace Agreement between Eastern Sudan and the Federal Government, and the The 2008–2009 Zimbabwean political negotiations between the opposition Movement for Democratic Change and the ruling Zimbabwe African National Union – Patriotic Front are few examples of failed accords – for one common reason: they did not address the root cause!

    Why are peace talks doomed do fail?

    1) Externally imposed solutions.
    When countries are engaged in gross humanitarian violation, it draws increasing international involvement that leads to rounds of peace talks. If the peace process starts as a result of external initiatives, it becomes natural for the agendas to be directed by the international stakeholders. In such circumstances the sovereignty norm is no longer a paramount to be the owner of the course of action hence, the agenda and their end resolutions become externally imposed. Such declarations lack the genuine engagement of the community and grassroots at stake; the external powers who lack sensitivity to the local political, social, and economic needs of the people come up with resolutions that reflect their own national and regional interest.

    2) Addressing the ambition of the elite and not the root cause
    Most political negotiations start with the buzz concepts of ‘power and wealth sharing’. Such points mostly address the ambitions of leaders who are often manipulated and captured by the interest of the elite that is shaped around the individuals’ and may be certain groups’ and not on broad interaction with the community or ethnic group at large. The Naivasha agreement which is said to have spent much of its time on ‘Teqasim alsultha’ has discussed little about the people of the Sudan and their socio- economic and cultural needs.

    3) Template-based approaches
    Politicians are more into signing the agreement and the photo opportunity that involve the exchange of the doc and the pride that comes with it. The devils in the details are dealt by the experts who are mostly technocrats. The technocratic approach plays a negative role in most peace processes, because by nature of their skills, they effectively try to ‘depoliticise’ the discussion and jump in to a template-based approaches that worked somewhere else but not necessary relevant to the country at stake.
    I remember in one African workshops a World Bank officer who was lecturing on ‘structural adjustment’ forgot to include in his ‘find and replace’ the title of the country when using the template that he used in one of the kingdoms, consequently his power point slides were stating ‘the kingdom of Botswana’.

    Reference

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMj2OLaNpc4

    Bruton, 2018. Ethiopia: End Game? Atlantic Council,

    • Nitricc

      Hi Kbrom: let me make it short and brief for you and for your readers. there was a mother battle between PIA and TPLF and PIA won every inch of the fight, hands down. Do you think TPLF will be where they are if they have PIA on their side? NO.
      Do you think TPLF will be where they are if they had won the fight against PIA? NO.
      So, let’s get it straight here. PIA and Eritrea wins again, the end of the story!!!!!

      • Kbrom

        Merhababu Nitricay,

        Thank you for the initiative, though my comment was squarely on Ethiopian current development, i do not want to ignore your post – though irrelevant – as a gesture of respect.

        in order to learn from your vast experience can you please elaborate why iis what you are saying is what you are saying.

        To be exact what was the ‘mother battle’? why was/is it only between ‘PIA’ as individual and TPLF? What and how is that ‘PIA won every inch of the fight’? what do you mean when you say ‘hands down? what do you mean if they have ‘PIA on their side’ do you mean on the side of their negative acts including marginalisation, killing, etc? what is ‘the end of history’ which history? why is that the Ethiopian internal situation a cause for declaring victory for PIA? what do you say about what is happening in Eritrea? Do you believe the doom and gloom in Ethiopia compensates the similar situation (if not worse) that is unfolding in Eritrea and is a factor/excuse to depict it as a rosy picture?

        ሰሰናዩ ምሳኻ ይኹን

        • Haile S.

          Selam Kbrom,
          I visualize a cartoon with the Ethiopian mass calling for change and a giant EPRDF official (Debretzion) standing on a stage dropping PMHD from one hand and raising high the other hand. And on a corner of the catoon, PIA from his Adi Halo office pointing his hand like a gun and saying እጂ ልዓቐብ፡ ሽላውንቲ ልታሕቲ!

          Awate team, where is Nehmia the cartoonist?

        • Nitricc

          Hi Kbrom: reading back your post, my take doesn’t make sense. I misunderstood what you were saying. My Bad! Having said that and to answer your question. What happened in Ethiopia will never happen in Eritrea. When the day comes, PIA will say this is your transitional leader. he will lead you while you have an election and implementing the constitution. That how Eritrea’s political journey to emerge. In Ethiopia everything is done fake and through deceit and sure to end in fake and deceit. Don’t buy this PMHD resining thing. it is a game. They are trying to slow and control the protest. Although they are killing the country by blooding slowly by prolonging the inevitable change. The sooner the Addis goons accept the change the better for the country.

    • Amde

      Selam Kbrom,

      I had to laugh at the template story.

      You have hit the nail on the head about EPRDF’s complete cluelessness. The “Tilq tehadsos” were getting soooo Tilq they were going down to submarine depths.

      That is why I think the best thing to come out of the recent events is (Hopefully) the death of Rule by Cadre for whom politics is dogmatic self indulgence. One of the jokes running around earlier this week was apparently a government news item abut some Addis Ababa EPRDF.members having discussion on the hot topic of whether Neo-Liberalism is winning or in retreat.

      At least we now have new players entering the game.

      Amde

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Kibromay,

      I have read your argument. Though I have no interest to argue on the Ethiopian issue, by relegating our issue to the back load, I am intersted on the idea of “power and wealth sharing” that you attribut it only as a political “Buzz”. When I read that phrase my eyes rolled and my mind instinctively reacted within itself. So the concept of “power and wealth sharing” only benefits the Elites and not the social groups the building blocks of a given society? Let me ask you the following: what political concept does not benefit the elites but instead benefits the the public at large? How do we seperate the mutual relationship of “elites” and the “public” at large both in terms of power and wealth? Who represent the public interest other than the elites? Aren’t the elites always divided on the concept of “interest” those who fights for themselves and those who fight for the public at large? Isn’t the uncompromising arrogance of elites on what they want to do that divide society? If that is the case, how does “power and wealth sharing” becomes a “buzz “ that benefit the elites only? I have no doubts that your analysis on the “idea of sharing” does also reflect on the Eritrean body politics. Your approach on the concept only breeds mistrust. However, your perception on the philosophical concept “fair sharing” made me to think to compose an article on how arrogance and mistrust is challenging our peaceful coexistence.

      Regards

      • Kbrom

        Merhababu Ema,

        Interesting point; going to work now, I shall revert ASAPractical. I promise that I will elucidate my points with lively examples that will reverse the feeling of ‘rolling eyes and instinctive mind reactions’ that I caused by my comments.

        ክሳብ ሽዑ ጠጥዕሙ!

      • Thomas

        Hi Amma,

        When people start to ignore the power of democracy and the highness above all of the constitution, it becomes clearer that they are more concerned about seeing individuals in power than the public being served by those chosen to serve them. The concept bringing just change of personalities in a leadership will just not going to cut it. Upcoming leaders have to prove why the true owners of the nation/the large public should elect them. I don’t see a bright future in Ethiopia if the current crises is mishandled and if wrong people are to be replaced by other worst ones. We celebrated Eritrean independence yet to fall into another dictatorial regime for over 26 years. Ethiopians must learn from us, the Eritreans. No more fooling the public and leaders must be weighed by their plan to fight economic hardship and illiteracy.

      • Kbrom

        Ema sorry for the late reply,

        First thing first
        I was not trying to disregard the concept and importance of power and wealth sharing in peace process. What I was trying to warn against is the consequence of quick fix under the name of ‘power sharing’. The buzz word implies that it is deviated from its actual meaning in the process of its conceptual and general methodological approach. As in many concepts you have the real and the buzz meaning; for example, the real Diversity and Inclusion concept as opposed to the fashionable ‘DIs’, that is consumed for the sake of public relations, you have the real Humanitarian work then you have the tax reduction corporate exercise of Social Entrepreneurship etc.

        Let’s be in the same page
        50% of peace agreements fail because the talks and accords which mostly focus on power and wealth sharing often do not address the root causes of the conflict. The problem starts in the definition of the concept. Many mediators depart from the concept of power-sharing as in ‘a political arrangement in which different or opposing groups all take part in government together’. The notion of ‘take part in government’ is here canned as the end of the process instead of being treated as the means towards the root cause. The fact that it aims for short-term advantages makes it the force of impediment in the process of the establishment of a long-lasting and sustainable civil peace

        Power sharing vs ‘power sharing’
        In several peace negotiations the power sharing is seen as ‘institutional arrangements designed to reduce the threat of conflict by giving the ‘belligerents a stake’ some power. Its emphasis on addressing the power division of the ‘belligerents’ and narrowing the scope to that size by ignoring the more important features of power-sharing institutions, makes it fall in to the wrong track of pursuing a single conception of democracy of allocating power (mostly ministerial and other senior positions) with out guarantying the establishment of democratic and effective institutions embodied in governance practices to promote civil peace and societal development.

        By the same token, wealth share is not articulated in most peace agreements in a way that interlinks its details to the overall objectives of social justice that include sustainable peace, resource share, freedom, justice and governance, and security and society.

        The institute of security reports half of the global peace agreements fail within five years because of lack of involvement of greater segments of society in a peace process. This is more so when the peace negotiation is between a government and an opposing group that does not represent the people on the ground (this is exactly what is happening in Ethiopia) or a rebel group run by an elite that is not democratically legitimized. In such cases the peace accords are doomed to nosedive because they fail to increase the scope of issues addressed (beyond the people in the round table) and thereby make the accords more illegitimate and unsupported by society.

        Peoples representation essential to success
        The reason that many agreements fail to address the root cause and end up with documents that do not necessarily reflect the needs of the society is because most of them fail to see the vital role of the greater public participation and make accords that do not involve the representatives of civil society.

        The other reason for the failure is the norms of putting great emphasis on the individuals participating in the peace process and the misguided approach of one template fits all. Many peace negotiation’s manuals encourage (sometimes even put it as a prerequisite) the principle of ‘coherence of parties’ which emphasizes on working for personal trust between the leaders of negotiation. Often the peace agreement, trust and the knowledge it consists is not filtered down to the people and the accord becomes the ownership of the leaders. For example, when John Garang died in 2007 the faith and trust that the CPA was woven into died with him, hence the Abie region section which was mainly entrusted in the leaders of the negotiation (Ali Osman and Garang left it unaddressed deliberately agreeing to deal with it later) was eroded and lead to the war between Sudan and South Sudan.

        Even the peace agreement itself was initiated when Garang feels ‘it is time now’. The SPLA was rejecting all calls for peace process because John Garang believed that the ‘Sudanese government could not be reformed, because it is too deformed to be reformed and must therefore be removed not improved’.

        Addressing the root cause is the way forward
        My comment on power and wealth sharing was posted with in the contexts of the current Ethiopian situation. What I was trying to state was that if the root cause of the Ethiopian people’s discontents – mainly the injustice, disparities, structural inequality, and deeper socio-economic crisis is not addressed and if the EPRDF believes it can solve the problem by sharing power with the elite in the OPDO – then Lemma or not Lemma, Haile Mariam or not Haile Mariam the result will be much worse.

        ግርም ዓርቢ ምሸት
        It was late, one Saturday evenin’
        After the sun went down

        • MS

          Selam Kbrom
          Excellent , Mumtaz jedan; I think Emma knows exactly what you said in your previous comment. The astute man he is, I would not question that. Elites are elites and public is public. Physically, they may be a subset of the public, but without an empowered public, there is no guarantee that they will stick to public demands, or that they will air public demands as they should be. When elites create mechanisms where the participation of the public is ensured and where their work reflect the desires of the people they represent, they become true leaders of the public and as a subset of the public their place is secured. If on the other hand they do behind the door deals in the name of the public, then they become outcast elitist club, detached from the public. So in any social or political process, negotiation, or dealing, the operative words are “representative” and “participatory”. When the process is representative and participatory, the terms (linguistic tools) become close to their true/conventional meaning, as described in dictionaries, and carrying the specific meaning in their respective fields. As you clearly put it, the choice of language is part of the marketing scheme, be it in politics or in economics. People could say democracy, equality, power sharing, rights, etc., but when it comes to concrete details of policies, all hell breaks, that is because each ideological cluster interpret and try to redefine those concepts according to its outlook.

          • Kbrom

            Selametka MS,

            I agree Mahmuday, Ema – as judicious man as he is – I would not hesitate for a fraction of a second whether he he had the full understanding (if not more) of what I was trying to reiterate. My sincere apology for preaching the convert.

            Mahmuday, I couldn’t have put it better myself, as you said, my points were around public demand and interest vis-à-vis powerful personalities, dis/empowered public, no/guarantee, non/inclusive peace process, non/root cause solution.

            Let’s see the hijacking of the Tahrir square’s popular uprising in Egypt, the peace agreements of (Darfur) and (East Sudan) and the contemporary paradigm of where the work of the elite do not reflect the desires of the uprising people.

            Public uprisings topple governments but they also create a political vacuum. If no organised and legitimate power is ready to take over, it becomes a point of concern. More over, if a power that does not represent the public demand, who is only there to exploit the public uprising is there, it is most worrisome. Tahrir square and the coming of Egypt’s Supreme Council of Armed Forces (SCAF) to the prime seat of power is case at point. ( Please also read Mengstu’s book to see how the historical political accident unfolded in 1974, when the Emperor was toppled) and created a vacuum).

            The Eastern Sudan Peace Agreement signed on 14 October 2006, in Asmara is another example of a case where the leader treated the public as its subset, instead of putting himself as a ‘subset of the public’ as you put it eloquently.

            As per the power sharing agreement on the declaration of principles, the Chairperson of the Coalition of Eastern Front Movement, Al Ustaz Musa Mohamed Ahmed was assigned as assistant President. However, there was no significant change in terms of security, power sharing at a federal and regional level, and wealth sharing in regard to the people of the three Eastern states that the movement claimed to represent namely Kassala, Red Sea and Al Qadarif.

            Same story goes on with the case of Mr Minnawi, who signed the Darfur Peace Agreement and assumed the position of Senior Assistant to the President of Sudan as per modalities of the power sharing arrangement. When Minnawi was elevated to the highest position in all terms, nothing changed in the grounds of Darfur. The structural inequity and the situation that denies equal justice and power sharing to the non-Arabs in Darfur remained the same. Four years later, in 2010, Minni Menawi complained that nothing has been changed in Darfur and went back to ‘his people’, however, it was too late.

            Now, Mahmuday, can you please hover you curser to your computer bar – click the sub menu Edit, drop down, and click ‘find and replace’, type Musa by Lemma.

            Result: New Prime minister; the same marginalized Ethiopian people, under injustice, poverty, power domination by certain group etc.

          • MS

            Ahlan Kbrom
            Hats off to you, Sir. I’m humbled by your details and how eloquently you compose them.

          • Kbrom

            الله يعطيك عمرا طويلا يا أبو حميدة

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Kibrom (Abi SeB),

          Your eloquence is impeccable that attracts your readers and your knowledge is so broad that feeds the hungry mind for knowledge. Good job brother. You are good asset to awate in particular and to our nation in general. Keep up.

          There is no much to argue in your comment at this point, for I am trying to write a short article on the subject. But, in general, I appreciate your attempt to put me in the same perspective as you do. The task of a debater is precisely that. Your ideas are packed in to four conceptual ideas (a) how could we be in the same page (b) Issue of representation (c) issue of power sharing (d) dealing with root causes. While your packaging is impressive, it is important to note that your argument on “peace agreements” is more to “interstate conflicts” than to “intrastate conflicts.” Both conflicts deserve different methodological approaches. For instance, the conflict of the social forces in Eritrea as oppose to the conflict between Eritrea and Ethiopia . Both have different dynamics that govern them and both requires different structural approaches.

          Second, your intake about “representation and participation” and on addressing the root cause of conflicts, I completely agree with you. Finally, thank you for elaborating your initial comment, though it is not addressed in the way I framed my questions. Your engagement is enjoyable and educational.

          regards
          Amanuel Hidrat

          • Kbrom

            Hi Ema,

            I was not sure if I was addressing the points that you framed, ኣነ ውን ገለስ ስኽፍክፍ ይብለኒ ነይሩ። Sorry for stating the obvious.

        • Amde

          Selam Kbrom,

          I thank you for the phenomenal information and perspective you bring. Wish I could transport you into Addis right now. Signs not clear if they are discussing survival or change.

          There was an incoherent news tweet from one of the independent media, talking about the Council of Ministers discussing PMHDs request to resign from።EPRDF chairmanship. The intertwining of party and state is so bad that even outsiders confuse one with the other. Imagine the armies of cadres within the existing parties that are used to having unquestioned power throughout their regions. That is an entrenched conservative force against political pluralism. So, as you indicated, rationally speaking, they have no incentive to change once they have made internal adjustments to the hitherto established pecking order. We will see I guess.

          Amde

          • Kbrom

            እዝግሄር ይስጥልኝ ጋሽ ኣምደ (ከወንበሬን ተነስቼ ኢያልኩት መሆኔኝ ይወቁልኝ)

  • Amde

    Selam Awatistas,

    Asking forgiveness from Amanuel Hidrat, please allow me to put a much belated response to Gash IsmailAA from an altogether different thread and add a few points wrt to what is going on in Ethiopia.

    “What you have shared could be counted as an update and fascinating as well as a bit worrying, I must add, about the urgency developments call for. I say this because I believe that what is good for Ethiopia and the region is not resorting to forging alliances (Oromo-Amhara kilis vs Tigrai for instance). As a matter of fact, what is good and lasting is reliance on forging consensus through democratic processes.”

    Dear IsmailAA, as you may imagine, this reduction of politics into ethnic alliances is detestable and one of my fundamental disagreements with the ethnic model of federation Ethiopia has been on. And in your next sentence, you have nailed exactly what many have wished to see instead – institutions who get their legitimacy from the people’s voice.

    One of the reasons I did not respond sooner to you, was to see if I can honestly answer your questions about “Ethiopiawinet” “Unitary state” and so on, and the roles of the generational changes.

    In my view, Ethiopia is on the cusp of a number of changes. This month and this week have been exceptionally exciting. It is wonderful to see political prisoners flood out.
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    To me, the most wonderful thing is seeing the possibility of transition from the leftist cadre politics to people power politics. The 40 something years ride of leftist forces, that equated military success and physical intimidation with license to have a permanent stranglehold over entire communities is hopefully ending. This was the same modus operandi of EPLF, TPLF, ANDM,,OLF and the gaggle of LFs. It is amazing how much indecency and thuggery one can get away with as long as it is called some version of “liberation” etc etc..The unspoken intimidations, break-down of families and social mores, killings, tortures etc especially against the defenseless rural populations will hopefully start coming to light very soon. It has really made me appreciate the term, “Rebel without a cause”, namely, that there is some proportion of society which has a psychologically rebellious itch, and hence goes around seeking it And society being what it is, there will be some injustice or rather that it can latch to. Anyway, that is an aside and perhaps a topic for a different day.

    What gives me enormous gratification is that people-power, using more or less non-violence means, are receiving as heroes leaders of non-violent political opposition who everyone expects will now be playing significant roles in a on-violent political process. The prisoners that are being released and being lauded by the crowds have earned their legitimacy through the pen or the microphone. For the most part anyway – we don’t know what tomorrow or next week will bring..

    I think it is obvious that the kids on the streets in the Oromo and Amara regions will be firmly in the political driver’s seat for the next 25 to 30 years at least. Nothing is guaranteed of course. These kids grew up under EPRDF’s system, propaganda and formal pedagogy. They have heightened ethnic sensibilities – a potentially dangerous mix of a sense of greatness and a sense of victimhood. How they will react with the disappointment of the drudgery of everyday life once things calm down is anybody’s guess. I am not sure it is at all clear that even the organizers behind the scenes feel they have control over them. All I know is they will likely be called the Qerro generation in history books. One of the jokes I saw floating around said “qerro enkan isregna, tsomim yasfetal”

    To answer your question about Unitary / Andinet and whether this is a resurgence of that.

    I take it as an axiomatic truth that there is such a thing called Ethiopian identity. I may not be able to convince you of that, but if you are comfortable with harboring both an ethnic, and Eritrean identity, then I submit that you know what I mean. This identity is different from the particular form of the Ethiopian state and the tools it uses to assert itself. I am not saying that all 100% of the people in Ethiopia self-identify with it. But that number is not 5% or 20% or 30%. It is higher (I say much higher) than that, and it is getting higher as people travel out of their rural areas and into the cities. And Ethiopian urbanization is currently at a low rate compared to many countries, and growing really fast..

    One of the fascinating things to me about the Oromo protests is this. If you ask me today, I would be almost inclined to say it is not clear who is the real president of Oromia – Lemma or Jawar Mohammed. Jawar Mohammed has been in the public eye for a while now, as an activist, and prominent Oromo nationalist pushing the Oromia iindependence line. If he is to be believed, he is the prime mover, organizer and shaker of the Qerro movement. It may be an exaggeration of course, but he does have a huge following among the youth. About a couple of years when the protests started getting steam, he actually called a conference of Oromo leaders where he had a charter of sorts – almost a declaration of independence. Whether on principle or for tactical reasons he was rejected, and he has said little about it since In fact, what is funny is that some of his ardent supporters are exploring ways of breaking the ethnic federation model.

    The majority of Oromo political opinion now is that an independent Oromia agenda is old school. They believe Ethiopia is theirs and they need to have the political and economic benefits and clout they deserve. The key word here is deserve. It doesn’t mean that they buy the old articulation of Ethiopian history, but even on a purely pragmatic basis, they have figured they are better off staying with Ethiopia and making it work for them.

    This is why Lemma’s rhetoric is interesting. If Lemma was just a flatterer as Saay (unfairly) claims, the easy path for him would have been to take the Jawarist line, thrill the kids on the streets and use that to enforce his diktats. But that is not what is happening at all. He would not say these things if he wasn’t certain he has political cover from his party, Oromo elders and the activists. It is really weird to watch on OPDO controlled Oromia state media TV, documentaries lauding Menelik, when just a very few short years ago the “same” OPDO was inaugurating tasteless sculpture to remind people of Menelik’s perfidies. He is actually working against at least three decades of Oromo political orthodoxy.

    He is also at the same time, cutting away at the leftist cadre rule fundamentals upon which the EPRDF rule is based. Oromo state media is at a point where they are reporting actual events as they happen, with seemingly little in terms of censorship. He has released prominent political leaders, and promptly promised to work with them. Including reaching out to those exiled and outside the country. He must know that if an open election is held today between the OPDO and the just released OFC (for example), much of OPDO would be annihilated. And yet, he is doing it, and it must be sending shivers down the spine of all his other colleagues in the EPRDF and the regional executives. There is an anecdote about one of the Spanish conquistador leaders burning his ship once they landed on Latin American soil. His crew then knew there was no going back. And so with Lemma, he is torching the EPRDF established order and Oromo political orthodoxy.

    I have thought one of the annoyingly incorrect things about the “Amara” critique of the HaileSellasie and Derg regimes was that it missed they were really more accurately primarily Shewan regimes. And Shewa has always been more or less a synthesis of Amharic Oromo and Gurage speakers. Quick review of Ethiopian geography – basically two plateaus split by the Rift Valley. The “historical Ethiopia” containing Axum, Tigrai, Wag, Lasta, Gonder, Gojjam etc are all on the western plateau.. And also Shewa, Wellega, Illu Babor Kefa etc – regions now known as Oromo areas. The Oromo climbed up the Eastern plateau, then crossed the Rift Valley at the narrowest point, via today’s Bishotu and Addis Ababa, before expanding out. I believe (I don’t have much data) that the new Lemma group is more heavily representing the Western plateau.. And funnily enough, the political leaders of the OFC that have been released have their powerbase from the Shewan and Wellegan wings of the Oromo communities, which share a lot more sociological, cultural, religious features with the other communities on the Western plateau. It is a long-winded way to say that there is possibly very deep rooted comfort with an Ethiopian identity. So, understandng Lemma as a typical Shewan is probably quite fruitful.

    I wrote this roundabout to say to you that in my opinion, through sentiment and sheer pragmatic need, we are at a point where Ethiopian identity is re-asserting itself as a political force. Funnily enough, it may also be at a point where the ethnic federalism finally starts working the way it is theoretically designed to. I personally do not think the Amara and especially Oromo youth will accept the dissolution of ethnic boundaries any time soon – but maybe I will be pleasantly surprised. But for sure, the ethnic federalism system, under straight line one man one vote democracy, gives significant structural and permanent advantages to a person like Lemma who hails from one of the huge regions. The large regions would theoretically be better off with a weaker center, and smaller units embracing the center to protect themselves against the big ones. And yet, Lemma is embracing the center. How to understand this riddle except to say that
    a) he is a shrewd politician and sees huge opportunities for national aspirations,
    b) he is doing it out of conviction, or
    c) both.

    I think the unspoken but implied question is, “Is there going to be a new Ethiopia asserting itself against Eritrea?” The honest answer is I don’t know but that is what countries do – they assert themselves. For sure there are many unresolved issues between Ethiopia and Eritrea that could not be resolved due to the trans-mereb Weyane/Shabia rivalry. Whenever the dust settles – a year or so I figure – we will see what happens. But as far as I can tell there is no appetite for a war against Eritrea. The rumors are that TPLF have been offering Badme to Isayyas in order to make peace, but that he has been rejecting them.

    Your other question was about the Tigrayan Gen4 and their political attitudes. I honestly can’t say. You can imagine that in general Tigrayans are frightened and traumatized, stuck between a rock and a hard place. They have been under TPLF iron fist for over 30 years now – with rumors of no overt protests but silent disappearances. At the same time, they are being accused of being beneficiaries and enablers of the TPLF rule in the rest of the rebelling country. My sense is the Gen4 Tigrayan youth are in for a rude awakening. There isn’t much in the way the protests are being articulated that could entice Tigrayan youth to join in. So I don’t see them coming out. But hopefully, at the end of this path, they will be beneficiaries of a more open and liberal political system, where they can at least choose between TPLF and X. .

    In general though I am quite hopeful and so far optimistic.

    • Selam Amde,

      You disappear for a time and then you come back with a gift like Santa Claus. Thank you.

      In my opinion, at least geographically oromia could be called the ethiopian motherboard, if i can say so, that puts it in the very heart of ethiopia and not in the periphery, in contact with almost all ethiopian ethnic groups. They are starting to realize that what extremist-ethno-nationalists like jawar had been saying up to now is not the whole story, and it seems that they are not giving attention anymore to their scenario of an all out crime against the oromo people by the amhara ethnic group. They are acknowledging that there rightful position is at the center of what we all call ethiopia, and without them there could be no ethiopia and without ethiopia there could be no oromia. This i think is what politicians like Lemma and others in the OPDO have come to understand.

      As the biggest ethnic group, future political systems in ethiopia, (especially the one man – one vote democracy, as you said), will put the oromo ethnic group at the center, as the power that attracts other political parties to work with it, and not only as a force that works with others, as it did up to now.

      Oromo extremist activists have stood against oromia’s economic prosperity by enticing the young to destroy developmental infrastructures, which are meant for the local oromo people. This, i think is being understood by the opdo and they want to open a new chapter in ethiopian politics.

      Eprdf is getting old and may even end up a defunct party, and opdo and its leaders seem to be ahead of others, with a show of democracy and a democratic revolution within the eprdf, which is the demand of the ethiopian people. It seems that somebody somewhere is starting to feel the heartbeat of the people, and i hope responding to it.

      War against eritrea which involves the ethiopian military is out of the question. I always say that economic competition will be what we will continue to see in the future. China is coming to the horn with full economic force as Said told us, building one of the largest ports in the world at djibouti, a free trade zone to the tune of $7bn a year that is going to change trade in africa, the djibouti – dakar railway could be a reality in a decade or two, and djibouti, as a gateway to africa could be the “dubai or singapore” of the horn, and ethiopia “little china 😁”. There will come a time when people would say “look, what the pfdj and its supporters have done to eritrea”.

      In my opinion, tigrayans will be forced to choose between a party that had been equally an oppressor in tigray as it is in the rest of ethiopia, or continue to live with the rest of ethiopians on equal terms. Tplf has passed its usefulness and the future belongs to a tigrayan that would stand for the interest of tigrayans and ethiopians and not for a tigrayan elite group, and we may expect another charismatic Lemma-like young tigrayan replacing the old tplf clique, a sort of the new negating the old.

      • Amde

        Selam Horizon,

        Oromo speakers are really unique within Ethiopia. Usually one finds an ethnic group’s language, topography, and traditional modes of life overlap. What I mean is, for example nobody thinks there are Tigrinya speaking nomads. While everybody agrees Somalis are fundamentally a lowland nomadic culture. With exceptions of course. Yet, you will find Oromo speakers indistinguishable from Tigrayan farmers other than their language. And also Oromo nomads indistinguishable from Somalis. This can only happen either because the language and culture are very old (predating Amharc speakers for example), or very young.(just a result of relatively recent cultural assimilation of existing peoples). My guess is the latter and we will now with DNA testing within the next ten years or so which it is..

        But in any case, I have heard the words “glue” and “cement” describing the Oromo within Ethiopia. I think it is absolutely true. It is my hope the Oromia Nation project will continue to morph into an Ethiopian political liberalization project.

        I woke up to the news of PMHD submitting resignation letter. It seems to me EPRDF is finished – all member parties will be scrambling for survival in the new era. As much as the member parties complained about TPLF’s superior position within EPRDF, for the past couple of years they had wanted to use popular revolt as the excuse to dislodge TPLF and establish themselves as top dog in the pecking order. But now, that game is over. Remember they are a generation worth of one party dictatorships with unquestioned power within their fiefdom, and articulating “ye biher chiqona” and “ye biher ekulinnet” were convenient covers for their own ambitions. Now i don’t think any of them believe they can survive a freely administered popular election. I can definitely see the possibility of a new marriage of survival based convenience, where TPLF goes down a peg or two, and OPDO can claim top spots and that way continue EPRDF. But I think events have moved too fast for that to be a workable solution. Funny, we will see exactly what principles they will be wlling to stand by when they have no cadre to intimidate with or jails to silence by.

        The trick now is to keep government running until a transition. Tough problem but we will see.

        Amde

        • Salam Amde,

          The news is really overwhelming. It must be a week of resignations in africa, Zuma of S.A and now HD of ethiopia.

          It is difficult for me to believe that HD is an impediment to peace and democracy when he says, his resignation was vital for reform that will lead to sustainable peace and democracy. I think that he was disappointed that releasing political prisoners was not enough to appease the demonstrators, and the message he got was that they wanted an oromo pm.

          After 5 years in power HD may thinks that it is time to open the way for an oromo pm to rule the land, and also to appease the oromo demonstrators. A tplf pm at arat kilo for the second time (God save us), will open pandora’s box. It is high time an oromo rules the land. After all, that is the essence of a coalition government, i.e. a rotating pm.

          What do you think?

        • Ismail AA

          Dear Amde,

          Good that you are still available to us to put developments (that seem to have picked pace the past few days) in perspective. I just saw the news reports about the MPHD’s resignation and flashed it to Awate. The event grades up to a surprise step on the part of the PM though in politics that unfold in fluid and unstable conditions, anything may not be be ruled out.

          Thus, as you have noted the marriage contract that bonded the coalition partners seem to have suffered serious breach. Nevertheless, do you think there is still some space they can use to overcome total collapse and manage to stir on together in a reasonable tansition scenario under personalities such as Lema Megersa who might be capable of harnessing public opinion among the restive Oromo youth? Of course, this can only be possible if the stakes could mutually support the partners interests rather bidding them each of own platforms and against one another.

        • saay7

          Hi Amde:

          Welcome back! About the lefties and the similarity they share with religious zealots: they are identical really, they just have different books and prophets. Same rigidity, same certitude about the righteousness of their cause. I listened to (and ignored) Seyoum Mesfun’s address at the TPLF conference until Berhe Y said something about it and I was forced to listen to it thinking I missed something. But, no: it was all praise for his front and its qualities: and its qualities are its ability to criticize itself for failing the people. They actually think if you are terrible at your job and occasionally take the time to say, “man, I really am terrible at my job” that is even more reason to endear you and to perpetuate your mandate to rule. Unsurprisingly, Isaias Afwerki does the same thing every year in his annual address (via interviews with Eri-TV): he provides sector by sector reports of how much his government has failed at everything, then says we will do better next year. Every damn year. It must be some East African thing.

          So, you think PMHD’s resignation will be accepted by the parliament or is it another one of those ruses? If his resignation is accepted, he would be the first one in East Africa. Tanzania’s Nyerere did, but only after 20 plus years of ruling and only after he destroyed the country with his “self-reliance” Ujamaa stuff (leftist mumbo jumbo) that ensured the country, which started out with South Korea in path to development, was far, far, far, far behind.

          saay

    • Ismail AA

      Selam gash Amde,

      Thank you so much for the generously detailed response to matters I had raised in my last exchange with you . I am really humbled by the time you had spared to grace me and interested Awatistas with such classroom quality briefing on the current (fairly complex) developments in Ethiopia whose direction (positive or negative) could impact the neighboring countries. We, as Eritreans, cannot pretend to be unconcerned about the future of a country that constitutes geopolitical and economic epiceter of the region. As patriotic individual who aspire the well being of my people and the peoples of the regions, I share the hopeful and optimistic note with which you have ended your briefing with adding my own hope that the adverbial expression “so far” will make place with unconditional hope and optimism.

      Due to time constraint, I ask you forgivenss for randomly commenting on the many significant issues you have raised. For starter, let me concur with you that in Ethiopia and many experiences around the world, it is historical to witness one epoch giving way to new one in the life of peoples’ experiences. This is to say that revolutionary eras and the processes they generate do carry with them cultures and intrinsic logics that affect the target groups (ordinary populations) in whose name the elites execute their ideologies and concomitant or auxiliary politics.
      What the Eritrean and Ethiopian peoples experienced can be appraised with such general trends. The centuries long degradation and backwardness, and alliances ruling classes had forged with the imperial and colonial powers had rationalized the emergence of revolutionary trends that produced what each of us are discussing from our perspectives. Thus, be it in Ethiopia or Eritrea or elswhere, it is simply historical to think that revolutionary processes do have own life spans and should transform to inefficacy and redundancy to give way to trends that lead to logic of national statehood at the center of whose essence reside processes that cater for the interest of the larger members of society, or to borrow the apt characterization – “peoples power politics” whose practical meaning and translation is democratic processes. Let pray and voice my optimism that that kind of way out shall be the fate of our peoples in Eritrea and Ethiopia who are currently going through uneviable conditions. I hope the emerging politicians whose power and influence emanates from loudspeakers and pens, as opposed to the barrel of the gun, would act as pioneers towards peaceful transition to normal life under just system that the ruled would endorse through legitimate expression of their sovereign will.

      On the issue of national identity (Ethiopianism) that I should think could be contentious (due to my rudimentary knowledge its background as former student of history), I think the experience of the decades that followed the post 1974 events that brought down the imperial order must have opened the way towards re-definition of Ethiopianism. The cultural and ideological bedrock, imperial absolutism legitimized by Christian Orthodox faith, that rationalized it for 800 years since the so called restoration in 1270 cannot rejuvenate its efficacy. As you have noted, the ethnic federalism and its impact on the majority of the Ethiopia’s current population would not, in my humble opinion, allow for willingness to live up with Axum-Lalibella-Gonder centered traditional essence of Ethiopianism. I would say, moreover, that it is at this point where the role and future trend of the Oromo elites and their political bases would become centrally positioned. I agree that the pragmatic and sensible interest of the Oromos and hitherto marginal nations and nationalities would be better served if they remain within current geographical national structure rather than opting for other alternatives, namely separatism. The question is though whether the Amahar and Tigrian elites would agree to the need of re-defining an accommodative and uniting national identity for the country under common democratic process that should shape the future political-governace order.

      As a last note, let me close these random comments which I am sure do not do justice to the quality of the your response, by restating my genuine hope that the ongoing events would settle down and enable the politicians and activists get sober down and opt for peaceful process and pledge to negate violence. The release of political and conscientious detainees is a good start that could calm down passions and engage in meaningful political and public relations activities. The decision by the EPRDF coalition government to let prisoners out of jails is a sign that could usher transition from revolutionary to an epoch that could open the path to the birth of new Ethiopia with modern national identity that the enitre socio-cultural set up could own.

    • Kim Hanna

      Selam Amde,
      .
      This particular post of yours need to be printed on paper.
      .
      In light of what I just read about the resignation of the Ethiopian Prime minister, the active political reactions will continue for a while until hopefully settles in some sort of a responsible Government.
      .
      My prayers had been to stay the course at least until projects like the GERD and the Electrified Rail connections to Djibouti were completed. It is partially answered.
      .
      I hope for the next few months you will post your VIEWS of what is happening and what is likely to happen, instead of responding to me and Nitricc.
      I consider responding to me and Nitricc to be a waste of time.
      .
      Thank you again for your sober and deep analysis.
      .
      Mr. Kim Hanna

      • blink

        Dear K.M
        He is responding to Mr.Ismael not to you nor to Nitricc. After all it’s on record he is the only person in this forum who can say things about EPRDF fault lines . You , Horizon and many others just have been looking at the 10% and so many TPLF cooked propaganda talking points.

        • Kim Hanna

          selam blink,
          .
          I am sorry I forgot to include you by name too. That was the point I was trying to make. You, me and my buddy Nitricc can have our own separate kitchen debate, let us go at it. What is the TPLF talking points?
          .
          Mr. Kim Hanna

          • blink

            Dear K.M
            At the moment there are no TPLF talking points because they are being defeated and deleted once for all.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam blink,
            .
            Let me just get you to state it on the record.
            .
            The defeat of TPLF (for you Tigrians), what is the benefit for you and Eritrea in the long run?
            .
            Mr. Kim Hanna

          • blink

            Dear K.M
            Well at least these who tried to think Ethiopia as the best place for opposition will go searching for another venue, don’t you think. Eritrean opposition were in weyane prison for 20 years plus if Ethiopia became a democratic state I think it will push PFDJ to the brink of collapse. I believe democratically elected leaders in Ethiopia can’t see us safer under Issaias. They will straighten the Eritrean opposition to care for their people. By the way the PM was just like a symbol like the queen of England. Who will come next ? If it’s Dr.Debretsion , I can openly say Ethiopia is going to be a bloody state.

      • Amde

        Selam Mr KH,

        I actually have no doubt the many projects will continue. The issue is one of will and of means.

        On the will side, i know of no Ethiopian community or group that is not interested in finishing the GERD. Personally, I think finishing the GERD would be a very good transitional national political project between the EPRDF and whatever comes after. It is not an EPRDF project, but an Ethiopian project. And, keep in mind, the Sudanese are just as interested (if not more) in seeing it through.

        The question then becomes one of means. In this case financial, and then technical. This is where the transition will be a bit risky. But think of what has been hindering the economy lately, and it really boils down to unrest. A credible political solution will start reversing that. So, at worst it is a matter of a delay.

        Most EPRDF members are just civil servants, and so assuming there is some bit of wisdom, much if the technical and adminstrative talent that brought these projects to where they are will still be available.

        There may be financial risks that are not clear to the public, but keep in mind the West does not want Ethiopia breaking up and China has invested billions in Ethiopia. So there are many self interested parties that will ease the transition.

        Amde

    • Haile S.

      Selam Amde,
      Great insight! ባኩራፊው ኣቢ ፈንታ የቀኘሁት ይሄውልህ፥

      ነበረ ለማ በገበያ ኋላ በትምህርት ቤት
      ተራው ቢገባ ዛሬ በመሪነት ታድያስ ምን ኣለበት

      • Amde

        Selam Haile S.

        Nice!!

        ለማ በገበያ ምን ሸምቶ መጣ
        ለማ ለማ ‘ሚያስብል ያገርኛ ቁጣ
        ወይም ሽወዳ ነው ወይ አፈዝ አደንግዝ
        ለማ ለማ ‘ሚያስብል አገርን የሚያፈዝ

        ለማ ተወደደ ወይ ለማ ተፈራ፣
        ጀርባው እኩይ ይሁን ወይስ የሚያኮራ፣
        ማን አውቆ ዘክሮ ደግሞ የሱን ስራ፣
        ህዝብ ግን ወደደው ለልብ ስላወራ፣

        “Flattery እኮ ነው!” ላላችሁ ወንድሞች፣
        አይ ብትሞክሩልን Flatteryው ሲመች። 🙂
        ላንድ ወርም ቢሆን ወይ ላንድ አምት፣
        Flatteredስ ብንሆን ደሞ ምን አለበት።

        መቶ ሚልዮን ወልዳ ብዙ እንዳላፈራች፣
        ምስኪን ኢትዮጵያ መሀን እንደሆነች፣
        በአንድ ለማ ራስ ላይ ተስፋ ይሆው ጣለች።

        Amde

    • saay7

      Amde:

      Well, let’s see if I can make things slightly more challenging for your forecast machine.

      With Hailemariam Desalegn resigning (now that his resignation was promptly accepted, it means he didn’t jump, he was pushed), consider this:

      1. Your boy Lemma is not qualified to fill the post (constitutionally) because he is not in the national parliament. He is the governor of a province and has no national portfolio, notwithstanding his Ethiopian Moses packaging;

      2. There are a lot of Ethiopian political prisoners who have been released who can assume the Mandela mantle much more easily than Lemma who was too busy working within the system and polishing his resume and getting designer suits.

      3. In fact, if you want to be Machiavelian, you can argue that the Ethiopian government (National Security) decision to release the prisoners was partly to satiate the demands of the protesting youth, but partly to knock Lemma a notch or two down by taking away his sole marketing gimmick (I am an Oromo who is also an Ethiopianist.) The released prisoners got the kind of receptionist that your boy (Lemma) goes to great distance to manufacture:)

      4. In the interim, some EPRDFist acceptable to all who is also a member of the parliament will be named PM.

      5. With the OPDO now facing new blood and new challengers to its constituency, Lemma will no longer be Mr. Inevitable. There will be more jockeying and then…

      then…?

      I leave it to Amde:)

      saay

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Saay,

        If the parliament approved the resignation of the current PM, the current deputy PM will take the office of premiership the remaining years of the term until the next election cycle. That is how their constitutional transfer of power we have learned after the death of MZ. They are always ahead of all the fears of the public. It is the same we saw from MZ to HD.

        Regards

        • Teodros Alem

          Selam aman h
          U get it wrong as usual. He (pm hd) installed to the prime minister position by full support of andm mainly by bereket and fair support of opdo .tplf was not happy at first to name him to pm position.i think he destroyed tplf from inside and the next pm will be lamma unless i don’t see how they gonna stope the uprising in oromo region.for the amara i think they will be ok with ethiopianist pm whoever he is except tigraians guy.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam TA,

            What does the Ethiopian constitution depict the transfer of power when the PM in office dies or resigned? Why don’t we argue by the book (the Ethiopian constitution). That is the adults argument, unless you are calling a coup on the ruling party.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam aman h
            Listen to the press conference by himself pmhd and shefiraw shagote. They say eprdf will elect the chairman of the party and the chairman of the party will be the next pm automatically.
            U think u know things but u r full o boy.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam AT,

            You did not answer my question. Does the constitution has an article that address scenarios such as referring to “resignation and death”?

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam aman h
            Since when eprdf follow the constitution? And why u think is this resignation and tihadeso all about? Why u think the pmhd and shefiraw himself gave that kind of press conference?

        • Kim Hanna

          Selam Amanuel Hidrat,
          .
          I seem to remember that after the PMHD inauguration the EPRDF approved 2 more Deputy PMs.
          If that recollection is correct, one of the 3 or entirely a new face could show up. Just to add to your post.
          .
          Mr. K.H

        • Nitricc

          Hi Aman-H all this just a drama for the next action! what comes next is military rule. this is staged and well planed to fool the Ethiopian people.

          “የጠቅላይ ሚኒስትር ኃይለማርያም ደሣለኝ የሥልጣን መልቀቂያ ጥያቄ ድንገት የመጣ አለመሆኑን የኢትዮጵያ የመንግሥት ኮምዩኒኬሽንስ ጉዳዮች ፅሕፈት ቤት ሚኒስትር ዶ/ር ነገሪ ሌንጮ ገለፁ።

          ሚኒስትሩ ከአሜሪካ ድምፅ ጋር ባደረጉት ቃለ ምልልስ የጠቅላይ ሚኒስትሩ ጥያቄ እራሣቸውን ብቻ እንጂ ካቢኔያቸውን የሚመለከት አለመሆኑንም ጠቁመዋል።”
          VOA

        • saay7

          Emma:

          Not necessarily so. In the Ethiopian constitution, the deputy prime minister has no constitutional authority: he reports to, and is accountable to, and serves at the pleasure of, the Prime Minister. He is not accountable to the parliament; he is a glorified executive secretary.. Don’t you remember the big crisis Ethiopia had when the late Prime Minister Meles Zenawi was unable to fulfill his responsibilities due to illness? How can a person who is incapacitated give his consent to his deputy to take over his place?

          I could be wrong (Amde? Fanti? But not Mr Kim:) but there is no provision in the Ethiopian constitution, or a succession plan as to what happens if the PM resigns, probably because it was never envisioned. I don’t even know if when PMHD resigned what happens to his cabinet.

          saay

          • Eyob Medhane

            Sal,

            Have you been consulting Negeri Lencho (govt. Spokes person lately? ) 😀

            He just gave a press conference few hours ago saying that the Cabinet is intact (will be intact) It’s only the PM, who resigned.

          • saay7

            Eyob:

            No sir, didn’t listen to negeri lencho; he is no fun. Hasn’t been fun since Getachew Reda, who was always ready to fight (your version of Yemane Gebremeskel) was, um, reassigned.

            Well, the cabinet is intact—for now–because HD won’t be gone until a replacement takes over, right? He is not just a PM, he is Chief Commanding Officer of the armed forces. Question: does your constitution have a provision for what happens when the PM resigns and does not sack the parliament, as is the case here?

            saay

          • Eyob Medhane

            Sal,

            Oh…you miss your buddy Getachew, don’t you? 🙂

            Well, guess what, he resurfaced..
            Today, here, he seems to advocate for Lemma and OPDO leadership 🙂

            https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1760460240651180&id=100000616621993

            Interesting times 🙂

            Here Negeri Lencho saying.. “..Move on nothing to see here..” 🙂

            https://amharic.voanews.com/a/ethiopia-com-minister-confirms-2-15-2018/4256336.html

          • saay7

            Eyob:

            Oh no! Who is Getachew fighting now? He has the manic energy of Sean Spicer and can fib just like him. Does he mention the mechanism for how a person who is not a parliamentarian will be the PM or he is, as usual, just winging it?

            saay

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam saay7
            U right lema is not a parliamentarian . may be they will elect him as chairman of eprdf for now and make Dpm to be pm until the next election and by the next “election” lema will be pm which means ethiopia will not have free and fair election(if there will be free and fair election i 99% sure g7 will be the winer). What ever it is an oromo has to be a pm b/c most oromo think they made a lot of sacrifice for the country but never been part of the real power . unless an oromo become a pm the uprising will not gonna stop.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Hi Saay,

            Deputy PM and VP do serve always at the pleasure of the PM and the President respectively. There is no unusual to that kind of role of DPMs. And certainly being on that subordination role, does’t preclude them from being in the line of succession, to occupy the office of PM, in the event the PM dies or resigns. I have not doubt one of the three DPMs will have the succession to occupy the office of the PM to finish the remaining years, until the next election cycle.

            Regards

          • Teodros Alem

            Aman h
            There is no 3 dpm in ethiopia now.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam TA,

            Refer to Kim’s info in reply to my comment. What I had info was two. In any case the number is not the issue. My arguement is whether you have one or two or three, the DPM will be in succession line for the remaining years of the term.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam aman
            According to ethio constitution don’t allow more than 1 dpm and it is a good example how eprdf/ tplf never follow the constitution.
            2nd ethiopia right now has just 1 dpm. The 2 xdpm gone 3 years ago.

          • saay7

            Selama Emma:

            Your information is incorrect sir. To use an easy example, the president of the United States cannot fire the vice president. The Ethiopian PM can. The US VP has constitutionally-defined roles that stand irrespective of the wishes of the president (certify electoral laws and vote in tie breakers in the Senate); the Ethiopian DPM does not have a constitionally-defined role that is independent of the wishes of the PM. The US VP was elected by the people and has to meet the requirements to be president as set by the constitution (natual-born over 35 years of age); there are no qualification requirements to be the DPM in Ethiopia: the PM can, if he chooses, name his wife the DPM.

            ሰማይን ምድርን

            I appreciate your will-wishes for Ethiopia but as a country taking tentative steps towards democracy, you have to acknowledge that it doesn’t have a system that guarantees smooth transition. Refer to the dry-wit of Amde who said that getting Lema to be prez is only a matter of amending the constitution:)

            saay

            PS: In his tweet and Facebook page, Hailemariam Desalegn expressed his dissatisfaction with the recently announced state of emergency and has ominously threatened to do something “they won’t like” if they (the National Security Complex) don’t rescind it. And what would that be, kbur ato Amde?

          • Nitricc

            Hey SAAY; Hahahahaha, lol very interesting tweet . As the ignorant white woman said to Laborn; shut up and dribble. I don’t think HD understood the gravity of his country is in nor the game they played on him. He supposed give his resignation to Parlama but he ended up giving to Sira-Asfetsami commitee. Now he is trying to be something he never was, is and never will be. ” Otherwise i will be forced to take measures they will not like” And that is? God help you mama Ethiopia. Desalegn, let me give you advice, they made you and they can simply destroy you. Just go home and disappear. Don’t forget you are the only prime minster who had 40 advisers and why do you think that?

          • saay7

            Nitrric:

            You always ruin my plans:) That is NOT the pm as u would have know if ur read the replies. I was hoping to get some fine Amde analysis…

            saay

          • Nitricc

            Hey SAAY, you will be disappointed. Amde is hidden TPLF. I know he is changing his vibe because of the current situation. it wasn’t that long when he told us that TPLF is the best to happen to Ethiopia. So, get ready to be disappointed and tricked. There are Three main Ethiopians we come to know and respect. Amde, Horizon and Kim and all are TPLF lovers and defenders so, if they tell you different now, don’t buy it. They are fake.

          • blink

            Dear Nitricc
            Come on man , any one left to die for weyane is Horizon ,his bag boy and our man with Meles tattoo , did you read him again about the Vice President advice delivery thing , he again fall to saay traps.

          • saay7

            Nitricc:

            My new year resolution includes being nice which is why I won’t downvote your post. You are very wrong on Amde.

            saay

          • Nitricc

            HEY SAAY: HMMMMM. You defended Amde, but no word on Horizon and my friend KIM, Trust me, Amde is corrupted and he doesn’t care about the country Ethiopia. Trust me, he is TPLF lover and when his TPLF is going down, he is changing his skin. You have the right to take your side but i take the side of the people of Ethiopia. Amde is corrupted, the end of the story!

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam Nitricc
            I think he is not tplf but one of the 3 coalition of eprdf .mainly epdm( most of the time they talk the opposite and very secretive )

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Hi Saay,

            Sorry I should include the word “generally” to my sentence to deny you any loophole from exploiting my argument. I knew you will jump at me with US constitutional reality to argue and disprove my arguement. However (a) Even in the US, though the VP can not be fired by the president, he is no more than the cabinets in giving his advices in the deliberation process of the president in making decisions (b) The US reality is not universal as to the power relationship of President and Vice President and how they are elected. Different countries with presidential executives have different way of elections how the elect their Presidents and their VPs.

            Second, I welcome your cognition on my good wishes to the Ethiopians to find a soft landing on the crises they are in. I have full hope to have smooth transition as they did after the late PM Meles Zenawi. Ethiopia is a home of over half million of Eritreans

          • saay7

            Emma:

            As long as you are labeling your hope as hope and nothing more, I can’t argue with it. But this is what you wrote when this subject first came up:

            If the parliament approved the resignation of the current PM, the current deputy PM will take the office of premiership the remaining years of the term until the next election cycle. That is how their constitutional transfer of power we have learned after the death of MZ. They are always ahead of all the fears of the public. It is the same we saw from MZ to HD.

            I hope you concede the point that the process is not as you described it because the DPM is not guaranteed right of succession per the constitution. Hailemariam Desalegn became the Prime Minister NOT because he was a deputy but because the Ethiopian cabinet desired it so.

            Similarly, on the relationship between President-VP and Prime Minister-Deputy Prime Minister, we are talking about Africa which has always struggled with order of succession. When a Guinean paper showed a frail picture of the ruler, the national security arrested the editor and forced him to publish a big, happy smiling picture President Conte…who immediately died, resulting in a coup.

            We are all hoping for a smooth peaceful transfer of power in Ethiopia. But it is hope, and it is misleading for you to describe a plan that doesn’t exist.

            saay

          • Eyob Medhane

            Sal,

            Advocacy for Lemma is getting fevor pitch. So many actors now are demanding for his crowning across the board…I think probably EPRDF and the parliament will be giving to the pressure. (Probably) Wow. The power of oratory and rhetoric!!!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Saay,

            PM-HD was deputy of Meles Zenawi and become PM after his death. Who ever is DPM now will take the office of the PM. Just let us wait without back and forth.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam aman h
            If Dpm will take the office of the pm it will be good for tplf to divide oromo and amara again but not good for the people of ethiopia besides dpm position on a lot of issues is not known. He can be worse puppet than pmhd and if he takes the office of the pm the country problem will be worse.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Saay,

            Sorry buddy, I should have added “generally” to my sentence. But even with that, I will still expect you to come with the US constitutional reality. However (a) the US constitutional presidential and VP powers and how they are elected is one of the different presidential and VP executive powers we know that many countries of the world run their governments. What I mean by that the US one is not universal presidential power (b) The VP in the US has no more than the other cabinets in giving advices to the president in the deliberation of taking decisions on various issues. By that I mean, he is like the other cabinets the enforcer of the decision taken by the president. He serves the president.

            Second, thank you for recognizing the good wishes for Ethiopian government and the Ethiopian people to find a soft landing to the crises of epic proportions they are facing. Ethiopia is a country that hosted more than half million Eritrean refugees and non-refugees. We have a big interest from a stable and peaceful Ethiopia. Who in his right mind will not wish to solve their problem peacefully? There is no benefit to Eritrea from unstable Ethiopia. Those who are feeding fire to the crises are doing to quench the thirsty of their hate. That is my reading my friend.

            Regards

          • iSem

            Hi Emma and Sal:
            Emma, most of the parliamentary government deputy/vice-PM is not requirement, if the PM position is vacant the ruling party appoints or elects his/her replacement and some times the PM appoints a deputy PM, so it is not constitutionally mandated for the country to have DP
            Aslo as Sal said since prez did not appoint VP he cannot fire him but he can drop him in the next election cycle because during that time the VP is not elected yet
            The parliamentary systems elects party, presidential like th USA elects president/VP directly and as u know the president can preside while a different party is ruling in the congress.But in P systems that cannot happen the worst thing the PM’s aprty can do it, it will not have majority MPs when all the independents s and opp MPs are counted. Put differently, the PM does not worry about the opp party having a majority.Also an interesting g thing about USA system is, if the prez and vp are shot at the the same time, the county could have a president from a different party even if the house is taken by the opp, as the speaker is the the second in line

            Sal: is the PM tweet fake, Because he also apparently tweeted the noble prize committee has called him

          • saay7

            Hi iSem:

            Yeah, the PMHD tweet is fake: refer to my reply to Nitrric.

            Thanks for clarifying even more on the role of Deputy PMs in countries with premierships. The post is not necessarily an automatic number 2 post: some systems never have DPMs, some have them and never fill them; and some have them but the DPms assume completely ceremonial roles. In the Ethiopian constitution, the DPM has no job description other than what’s decided by the PM and since when a PM is incapacitated or dead he cannot assign him a role, the country is premierless. This was the case with Ethiopia when Meles was sick and they went to great length to keep it a secret and when he died many said we didn’t know he was sick. DPM Hailemariam Desalegn became the PM not because he was a DPM but because the Ethiopian parliament wanted continuity in the Meles vision and since Hailemariam was being groomed by Meles our of respect for him they named him. And back then the OPDO and ANDM were powerless organizations despised by their own people. Very different from now.

            saay

      • Josef Says

        Saay7,
        I am surprised you are taking anything Afwerki says seriously or even worth printing.
        I don’t know of any Eritrean seeing victory? I think we eritrean are de-attached from reality if anyone sees “victory”.
        Of course, if you are not running your own race(running successful civil society of your own) and you are spectator on side watching a health runner running his race.. the only thing left is make comments..
        It seems leadership have made adjustment like a runner turning corner on long marathon race- but trust me this runner is strong and healthy and he is running a good race.
        I admire the level of political maturity…
        “I see my resignation as vital in the bid to carry out reforms that would lead to sustainable peace and democracy,”
        Ethiopia leadership is beginning to sound like the Chinese leadership… Leader measuring themselves by how much they can deliver for their people…
        I think in eritrean race.. we don’t have running shoes or course plan or anything.. we sitting watch TV with others running races.. of course we can judge and claim why this happened to this runner or that.. it is weyane interval training or that…

      • Fanti Ghana

        Selamat Saay & Amde,

        Saay, I was really impressed by Amde’s analysis above, but your semi-spoiler is also thought provoking and serious. I wish I could talk more, but I will keep reading every now and then. So, keep this brilliance continue.

        I may or may not come back this Sunday depending on how many times you guys say “TPLF” -:)

        • saay7

          Haha Fanti:

          I was going to say more but I think I have upset Mr. Kim. He is seeing glee in my voice when it is actually just floating theories with a little bit of contrarianism. Lema (pssst, Mr. Kim, “your boy Lema” is a description I use when address those who have expressed full fanboyhood for Lema–first Eyob, now Amde), whether by design or accident (I think it is by design) will face stiff competition for the role of Spokesperson for Oromo People (sadly, ethnic federalism means there is one tribal king) and I was arguing that Lema’s popularity was in comparison to TPLF (sorry Fanti) but in comparison to the newly minted survivors of Robben Island Maekelawi.

          See you Sunday!

          saay

        • Selam Fanti Ghana,

          For Christ’s sake, speak your mind, speak you heart, as if there is no tomorrow. There are times when even saints are angry, and they scream, and there are times when they are happy and they rejoice, drink and dance.

          When are you going to talk if not now, when are you going to say a spade is a spade, if not now, when your people are demeaned, demonized and made scapegoats. Don’t you think that you are irrationally rational? Sorry Fanti Ghana.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Horizon,

            Fanti Ghana is a wise and a rational person. He knows when to speak and not speak. If the situation is more confusing than clear, he is reserved not to interject his view especially when it becomes highly partisan divide. When the “dust” and “hoho” settled, he will give a matured evaluation. Just wait. All the analysis and sub-analysis we are reading, are based on wishful thinking and not on internal factual knowledge of the situation.

            One who observe from far thousands of miles could only hope their politics to find in ordera not to bring additional crises to the horn. Good luck Ethiopians, and hope to come out of the wood, and be an exemplary people on how to resolve a crises of this magnitude.

            Regards

          • Nitricc

            Hi Aman-H; I think you are confusing me to no end. You said ” Good luck Ethiopians, and hope to come out of the wood, and be an exemplary people on how to resolve a crises of this magnitude.”
            and you turn around you admire and respect the person who architect of the crises of this magnitude, Melles Zenawi.
            How do you reconcile this two confusing and contradictive believes of yours?

          • Thomas

            Hi Nitricc,

            Now, it is clear that you are Ethiopian most probably from the Oromo or Amhara ethnic group. I wish I had known this before because I would have understood you more. Go Ethiopia Go Nitricc. It is clear that you have no knowledge of Eritrea or Eritreans so I advice you to stop pretending. Leave Eritrea to the Eritreans!!

          • Nitricc

            Thomas; just drop it and stop addressing me. we don’t mix, there is nothing I can learn from, I mean nothing. You are useless, dumb and stupid. So, please leave me alone. I know you are feeling it. your TPLF is begging Eritrea. I know how you feel but you are useless. you might want to know what your people are saying. open the link.

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ec … 931e81.jpg

          • Thomas

            Hi Nitricc,

            I know you are just a loser and good for nothing. I just feel sorry for those around you for you are a burden to the Ethiopian society. Just leave Eritrea to the Eritreans. Never pretend or try to speak on behave of Eritrea.

          • blink

            Dear Thomas
            I have never thought water can travel up stream naturally, what are you saying? What is going on man ? I feel sorry for TPLA , people can forget minor things but this … this one is unforgettable. The TPLF fighters I mean all the chogar danga were not thinking such , they died bravely fighting for the peaceful existence of all Tigrians, Ethiopians and some even for Eritreans but TPLF leaders sold them for money and power to control Ethiopia. I really feel the frustration of ordinary Tigray families to witness such on their life time. I want you to know that TPLF relationship with the Tigray people is like Oil and water at this time .

          • Thomas

            Hi Blink,

            Do you really think I care? You are the one who is spending 24/7 talking about issues in Ethiopia – NOT ME

          • blink

            Dear Thomas
            I think you care and even the degree is at higher than we know , the desperation is making you push Nitricc to be Oromo.

          • Thomas

            Hi Blink,

            You should have known that you are here to attack the weyanes because they have been a nightmare to your master DIA. That is the only thing I can think of. Yes, Nitricc is here to defend DIA because DIA wanted to use the Oromos such as Nitricc to come back to the Weyanes/DIA’s brothers. It is not that hard to see their mission, though kind of useless agenda. DIA wants to see his relatives in Tembien and Nitricc wants to liberate his Oromo brothers and sisters. I am working to find out what your mission is, though I suspect you support DIA for simply a sub-national agenda.

          • blink

            Dear Thomas
            Please don’t waste your time , if Issaias dies 2moro I will be jumping with my teeth smiling and jumping ,but I will worry again and campaign hard to make sure Ethnic , religion and regional based politics to be never implemented in Eritrea.

          • iSem

            Blink:
            What do u mean ERR (Ethnic, Region and Religion ) based politics be never implemented in Eritrea. Are u slumbering, it has been implemented in evil ways, insidiously, pitting one religion against one, one region against an other.It is the implement of PFDJ
            TPLF did good to do that initially, it was visionary and TPLF were on to to something, for proof: it has kept Ethiopia intact (despite IA prophecy ) until now
            It was not the invention of TPLF, USA states are 50 ethnic design. The problem with Ethiopia was they did not move beyond it.
            So you can smile and smirk when IA dies but do not tell us he did not use ERR

          • blink

            Dear isem
            I don’t see a Christian priest preaching against his Muslims and I have never ever saw a Muslim sheikh preaching against his Christians too . Unlike you I have been traveling Eritrea from low to highlands and I know the church in Golige has a good respect by the Mosque goers , I also know a small church in Nakfa has no ill wish from the majority of Nakfa settlers. Let’s come to region , the regional thing is complex only in your mind and in some Weyane cronies. Ethnic well that one no where to be seen even , I mean you can talk about the Kunama guy who continues to insult our founders but he is equally criminally responsible and he represent very few like the Tesfatsion guy from London who is a crook and must be arrested for the insult he is doing. PFDJ are evil to everyone be it Tigrinya , Tigre or kunama they don’t have Ethnic preferences if you cross their unlawful business, you will get snatched to prison. The ethnic blame game was inserted in the opposition by people who are dubious and evil.

          • Thomas

            Hi Blink,

            So you support silencing religions, ethnic and other groups by a power of gun because that is what your master is doing. Let alone freedom of religions, freedom of press and freedom of anything, the Eritrean youth are not even allowed to own their own lives. The government does the thinking for you. Thinking is done by torturing and so on the subject, national/military slavery is the life they choose for you and your religion is say Yes/Amen to any order by the general or security or the cadres. So, never blame the opposition when they gain torturers are there/in the country every everyone to see.

          • woldeab

            Aye Semere: you might try to fly past the unreachable stars to try to whitewash TPLF but please don’t try to tell us that the US states are ethnic designs?
            No historian will support your claim.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Semere; how far are welling to go down to protect your failed TPLF? I have never accused you for your brightness but you sound very stupid when you said ” USA states are 50 ethnic design” Really?

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Nitricc,
            Do you really believe you can support the TPLF or not by commenting here? Think again.
            My dear, this is simply a discussion and I suggest you take it at face value.

          • Nitricc

            Hey SJ: I didn’t get your point. We are in University of Awate. nothing is taken in face value. anything and everything is questioned, scrutinized and debated. Don’t undermined the power of aware-forum. Sooner or latter Eritrea will face the same situation but what makes Eritrean situation is that The Eritrean government will handle it with the right way. The greatest danger for TPLF and their supporters like Aman and Semere Andom is that TPLF is acting from the point of weakness. Now the people are emboldened and they will want more. So, my point is TPLF is done! There is no other way to put it. When Desalegn is mouthing you, you are dead. Anyway, i am not sure i understand your take. I am like you, i don’t get cods lol.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam isem
            Tplf never been force of unity never. Tplf has been fighting and still fighting against unity using different techniques for the last 43 years.the is a fact which u can see it in today’s ethiopia. And u not tigrai(agame).

          • blink

            Dear Nitricc
            You are good , I mean too good not to be confused by Meles admirer. I have observing him for a very long period of time and his main guidance is Foro12 , you can find on his Facebook.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Nitrickay,

            The reason you couldn’t understand me is: Because you can’t distinguish between the the leadership of MZ and the current leadership. Once all your comment is based on the hate of TPLF, you can’t give rationale argument. And you can’t hope good to come out of the current crises for the Ethiopian people. Let me tell you this: An opposition force born out of hate and if it comes to power by sowing hates, will in turn be removed by hate forces – a cycle of destruction and hopelessness. Look your picture with that mirror, and all your spouts are full of hates. Change yourself before you demand changes for others,Nitrickay,

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selam Horizon and Saay,

            I enjoyed “Black Panther” movie very much. I will
            not say a word about it because I don’t want to spoil it for those who
            haven’t seen it yet, but I strongly recommend it for every one. Please make time for it.

            Let the record show that I spoke my mind!

          • saay7

            Haha Fanti:

            Not THAT is how it is done: I will talk when I am good and ready:)

            So, on Black Panther. Respecting your wish not to be a spoiler, here’s a thread on which African tribes were the inspiration for the costume designer and, yep, a tribe of your country is mentioned:

            https://twitter.com/i/moments/965082557879533568

            saay

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selamat Saay,

            Many African symbols and cultures are included including many of the African actors being from 6 or so different countries. After it is
            spoiler safe, I will comment what a small addition I think would have made it perfect +1 for me.

      • Kim Hanna

        Selam saay,
        .
        Sometimes it is really hard to differentiate saay and blink and/or Nitricc.
        Nitricc is direct, honest and brutal, saay does it with finesse to say the same thing.
        .
        —-PMHD…he didn’t jump, he was pushed…National Security Complex, ie Weyane.
        .
        —–your BOY Lema…
        .
        —–Lema—-getting tailored suits..
        .
        ——–TPLF decision to release the prisoners….partly to knock Lema a notch or two…
        .
        ———By….2020 Lema will no longer be Mr. Inevitable.
        .
        If I haven’t read you in pre 1998 and the smug analysis of Ethiopia vis-à-vis President Isaias Afwerki’s far sighted approach, I would have taken you seriously. I hear excitement in your voice about what Eth. is facing.
        Your crystal ball, if the past is the indicator, is a deformed one. You resemble the former V.P Joe Biden, everything you espouse for is proven to be wrong with time. What can I say.
        .
        ..then?…
        You said with excitement, holding yourself back. I am surprised you didn’t quote Ali Salim to buttress your predictions.
        .
        Now that I responded to the Nitricc side of you, I will leave Amde respond to your other side.
        .
        Mr. Kim Hanna

        • saay7

          Mr. Kim:

          I am sorry that you think my forecast/predictions are based on ill-will when, from my standpoint, it is just close obervation of “EPRDF” for over 20 years. My assessment (which some may not like) is that the EPRDF has rigged the political system in Ethiopia’s politics and, further, the TPLF has rigged the system within EPRDF. Let’s see if this supports my argument, as reported by Addis Standard on the recently announced 3-month state of emergency. (Oh, by the way, for those who argued there is a fine system for suceession, nothing to see here, sorry that was a surprise to you.

          https://addisstandard.com/breaking-ethiopia-to-declare-three-month-state-of-emergency-as-of-today/

          Here’s the money shot:

          Initially, there there was a “strong push” against the decision from members of two of the parties that make up the EPRDF: the Oromo Peoples’ Democratic Organization (OPDO) and the Amhara National Democratic Movement (ANDM), the two parties that govern Oromia and Amhara regional states, according to our source. However, “the state of emergency will be declared this morning as the security situation in the country is getting volatile,” said the source.

          Using the properties of subtraction, we know this:

          EPRDF = TPLF+ SEPDM+OPDO+ANDM

          OPDO+ANDM were opposed to the declaration of state of emergency

          Therefore, TPLF and SEPDM were the ones in support of declaration of state of emergency.

          Mathematically, this shouldn’t be the case because OPDO and ANDM represent 70% of Ethiopia. But, in Ethiopia, that’s the reality. I get no satisfaction in this as political shenanigans that go on in the biggest and most influential country in the region (Ethiopia) have a waterfall effect throughout the region and they contribute to making Eritrea an even more abnormal police state, but facts are stubborn things.

          saay

          • Eyob Medhane

            Sal,

            On the update, the state of emergency has been declared with a bit sloppy decree which did not specify the length of its effect and tge rights that have been suspended. Neverthless, I have found it to be very necessary and useful.

            Here is why,

            Political actors from foreign and domestic, who have sisnster and ill will to that country could take advantage of the situation and disrupt the transition through viloent protests and mayhem.

            This is the first for Ethiopia. A leader leaving office willingly and trying to reach his temporary and eventually permanent replacement. It need to be done, carefully and methodically. Therefore, a distraction such as protests and demands that may disrupt a process need to be put on hold.

            Ethiopia is the top FDI receiving country and it wants to continue to be so. Therefire, in order to assure investors that tge government is in control and not weak, it needs to desplay some authority, no matter how inconvenient it may be.

            Addis is a seat of AU. It has over 132 embassies UNECA, Africa Interpol amd so many other international orgs. are headquartred there. In order to protect them, during this volitile times, there needs to be sone sort of strict order to be applied until calm and confidence is restored.

            So SoE actually is a way to go, in my opinion.. .

          • Selam Eyob M.,

            The resignation of the pm took place under mass protest and civil unrest, and it is only natural that a state of emergency is declared. There is a caretaker pm, which may mean that the state may not be functioning normally as it should in normal situations. As you said, it will be equivalent to opening the door for all the enemies of ethiopia, internal and external, and somebody must protect the country.

            In my opinion, the state of emergency should last until the new government is in office, and the civil unrest and this unstable situation are under control.

          • Thomas

            Hi Horizon,

            You are being unfair to Nitricc, Blink and their kinds here. Look how they are celebrating (being very excited) because they are reading all the “jini janka” written all over:)

          • blink

            Dear Thomas
            Come on , be fair , why would any one be celebrating the death of innocent Ethiopians by agazi police? Who on his right mind would celebrate the dubious role of TPLF to creat a friction between different ethnic groups? Think about it , if you flip the coin, it is people like Thomas , Horizon and other known ugly hearted people who have been celebrating the death of Ethiopian children by TPLF not me not any other i know .

            The people who celebrate the death of Ethiopians are the once who clapped weyane policy and Meles vision.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam horizon
            Internal and external enemies of ethiopia? Who r they ? If u ask ethiopians they will tell u tplf is infernal enemy of ethiopia( over 90% of ethiopians will tell u that).
            About external enemies i think Egypt has some disagreement with ethiopia concerning nile river it been there before and nothing new and that doesn’t make them enemy(once the nile issues is over we will be very friendly).
            Eritrea. They have a problem with with your tplf(ethiopians enemy too)nothing more nothing less.

          • saay7

            Eyob:

            One can make a good case for announcing a state of emergency and reasonable people can have a disagreement on it. What interests me is that (if the Addis Standard report credible), that ANDM and OPDO were opposed to it. My guess is that they were vocalizing the concerns of their constituency who regard the PMs resignation was motivated not for meeting the demands of the people but the status quo voices of EPRDF.

            saay

          • Eyob Medhane

            Sal,

            Addis standard news is credible. But I don’t believe that OPDO and ANDM are opposing the SoE for the sake of their constituancy. I believe they are doing it not to break their populist streak..

          • saay7

            Eyob:

            Reading your second and third sentences, Mr Tionary (for name Dic) is very confused.

            Constituency: a body of customers or supporters.

            Populist: philosophy supporting the rights and power of the people in their struggle against a privileged elite.

            So, who are the constituency of OPDO and ANDM and isnt their main call on their parties to stand up for them? And who do the people consider the privileged elite?

            saay

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam saay,
            .
            I don’t know the facts of the membership composition of EPRDF. My working assumptions were that equal 4 partners elect a Prime Minister to do the job.
            That doesn’t matter. In terms of your factual basis of your statements, you may not be that far off from some of the Ethiopians I know.
            .
            What I objected to was the intentional cherry picking of all the wrong possible ways to trouble.
            A lot of things are not known. Some of the Awatistas, judging by their comments, are excited as it is. Your comment gets them more excited as if they need more excitement. I wish I could help myself, when they get excited I get excited and start typing.
            .
            Mr. K.H

      • Amde

        Hi Saay,

        It seems Disqus does not like you… my response became የውሀ ሽታ። So this re response is possibly irrelevant.. but we will see.

        On PMHD, i am on Team “He Jumped”. Does not make sense he would be pushed if there is no evident replacement. EPRDF is desperate to communicate they are in control. And since HaileMariam’s announcement, there has been a dizzying series of trial balloons offered and shot down on line. The first name floated was Werkneh Gebeyehu, which prompted a post from Jawar Mohammed threating fire and brimstone come Friday morning. We heard Shiferaw Shigute. That was a downer. Demeke Mekonnen has been was mentioned, but then some posting showed up saying he was sacked from his ANDM post, but which was then hotly denied. So, EPRDFites might spin this as a case of an embarrasment of riches, but for others it looks like there is floundering around. In any case, PMHD has been asking to leave the post for a long time now – can’t blame the man. Technically he is still at his post until a replacement comes. But, it is bizarre he would announce AFTER so many were released from prison. That is another clue that he jumped.

        I can’t argue your point on Lemma’s constitutional problem on Prime Ministerial succession. But if they wanted to he could have the Deputy PM post until a quick amendment is rushed through.

        Lemma as Mandela would be a joke that I am sure even he himself would find very funny. The proper way to understand Lemma is not as a sentimentalist, but as a chief executive who sees thousands of problems EPRDF needlessly created. The land issue that sparked the Oromo youth movement three years ago is unresolved, sitting like a powderkeg around the Addis Ababa. There are still thousands of seething farmer families who are waiting for the opportunity to take back their land, which in many cases are no longer farms but fancy villas. Apparently, these have created a small cottage industry of dark humor by the farmers, who congratulate each other that “Today my villa got electricity” Or “Congratulations – I hear your second floor is finished”. There is a vast new urban area called Bole Bulbula just behind the Bole airport that has been growing now for over 20 years. Up until now, farmers were being pushed out for nothing or for nominal pittance while land prices there now are well over ETB20000 per sq/meter. During my last trip, I was told the Mayor of Addis (OPDO guy) passed a ruling making sure (newly) dispossessed farmers get full market rate compensation, making instant birr millionaires of quite a few. This was the kind of policy change I had wanted to sèe.

        The newly released OFC leaders are very liberal and preach peace and love, but you can hear the iron in their voice when talking about land. I have a feeling that Bekele Gerba’s debate speech on land will probably be one of the best poltical discourses in recent Ethiopian politics. Any Addis Ababan will probably tell you that the typical rural Oromo in the surrounding towns is probably indistinguishable from the typical Addis Ababa city slicker when it comes to Ethiopiawinet. (They were pretty much the muscle for Menelik’s much maligned Neftegna). But on land issues, there is a split between a growing capitalist Addis , and the bystander rural surrounding area who is losing out and thus resentful. I will give you a very simple and banal example. It is not a hypothetical it is true. A person who has rental property in one of the Addis satellite towns has Oromo renters who won’t pay rent because “This is Oromo land and we are entitled to live free on Oromo land.” Ok the land lord loses out, but the deeper point is that capitalist economic growth is incompatible with this idea.

        I didnt mean to write so much about land today, but it is just one of many problems that EPRDF’s dogma created that Lemma has to deal with. In fact, I would love to be a fly on the wall when the chief executives of each region, who dont have the luxury of dogma, sit together and talk/bitch/commiserate. I would even even include the recently demoted Abay Woldu, who probably feels he was abandoned by the TPLF elite in Addis. In any case, it is no surprise to me that Lemma Megersa and Gedu Andargachew find themselves in the trenches together against an out of touch Addis center.

        You have a good point about the Security State. Until someone can convince me otherwise, I believe the TPLF political side is pretty much dead, and events are being driven (or resisted) by the Generals and the security establishment. They are now an institution unto themselves, beholden to no one.
        They have massive economic interests to protect, and absolutely nothing to gain by any change. Lemma being an ex-security guy probably knows them a lot better than PMHD ever could. So that is a plus for him. But the OPDO statements that came out a couple of weeks ago (wow – how things changed so fast) made it a point to say that they will fight against “contrabandists” and correct trade/commerce “imbalance”. This has been universally interpreted as gunning for TPLF’s money machines EFFORT and METEC. That I thought was a ballsy statement, and just for that alone I fear for his life to be honest. How to walk this security state back from the ledge is probably the hardest problem in Ethiopia right now.

        In any case, you asked me for a Lemma prediction. I think he has his eyes on a post-EPRDF future. It maybe his most likely role will be for an interregnum. But I will make a bold prediction (what is the point of anonymity on the internet otherwise – right?). I think OPDO will probably survive best into a post-EPRDF future. I think ANDM is dead party walking. SEPDF is fake party walking. TPLF will shrink to a die-hard rump core, with most of its current members splitting into Ethiopianist and Agazianist factions. Lemma and group probably sense this best and are positioning themselves better than any of the other parties. Which paradoxically makes OPDO the real opposition party within the EPRDF system. So, Lemma might not be the formal leader but he is the one with the agenda.
        (Ask me in a week and who knows I may say what the hell am
        I thinking)

        Amde

        • saay7

          Hi Amde:

          It seems that disqus has reconciled its differences with me because I can read you just fine now.

          There is an overlap in our views, I think, and where there isn’t, we will let Kaddis give us his 2 Birr’s worth (assuming the internet is back, Kaddis?)

          1. On the jump-pushed: if a man is giving his resignation every second tuesday and it is routinely rejected, and then its finally accepted quickly, lets compromise and call it he was jushed? I mean there IS a reason why he was resigning every 2nd Tuesday. (Tuesdays With Hailemariam, 9 Eastern/8 Central on ENN.)

          2.When framing the conflict in Ethiopia, there are two overlapping ways to do it: (a) TPLF-Centric EPRDF vs non-TPLF-Centric EPRDF vs the rest of Ethiopia; (b) National Security Types vs Reformers. I use both ways to frame the issue but I gravitate to the latter when I see a lot of cringe-inducing language of those who criticize the TPLF the same adjectives they use in criticizing the people of Tigray. These are mostly PFDJ bigots who lose sleep about Ethiopian human rights as they empower PFDJ to violate Eritreans every day, and the One Ethiopia reactionaries who consider ruling a birthright.

          With that caveat out of the way, why would the national security types ask/accept PMHD’s resignation when they have no back up plan and are “floating” substitutes? Because (a) everything else they have tried–and the only thing they know is sticks (firing live bullets at demonstrators, mass arrests, state of emergency, anti-terrorism proclamation)–didn’t work. And all of them have read Naomi Klein’s Shock Doctrine. Whatever it takes to hold on to power and ill-gotten wealth. (Same thing happened in Sisi’s Egypt.)

          3. I think you misunderstood me about Lema: a fine Mandela you make if you have been to Robben Island:) I meant his instant competition will be those who have claims to Mandela-hood: the just released prisoners.

          saay

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Selam Awatawian,

    The ex-president of Liberia, Ellen Johnson, has won the Mo Ibrahim award for the year 2017.

    “The Mo Ibrahim Foundation was established in 2006 with a focus on the critical importance of leadership and governance in Africa.” The Mo Ibrahim Foundation was established in 2006 with a focus on the critical importance of leadership and governance in Africa. Let us congratulate her for achievements.

    Regards

    • iSem

      Hi Emma:
      Yea, that is good news. The award has gone 50% unawarded for the lack of worthy recipient.
      And there is one more good news, Jacob Zuma has just resigned due to the withdrawal of confidence from his party. It is good news in a sense that it sends message to mentality of people in Africa that there is something called resigning and impeaching in civil society

  • said

    Greetings,
    I am envoys of Djibouti in a good sense . On February 08, 2018 German Spiegel international reported. How Djibouti Became China’s Gateway To Africa
    China’s influence is everywhere: in roads, rail, telecoms, infrastructure and in Djibouti, Free Tarde zone and a naval base. Of the UN Security Council’s five members, China has the most peacekeepers in Africa. China built $200m headquarters of the African Union in Addis Ababa.
    Djibouti, one of Africa’s smallest countries, has become China’s “strategic partner.” The Chinese have built a military base and a port, and is currently constructing a free trade zone, fast establishing it as Beijing’s gateway to the continent. Please see the link to Spiegel magazine

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/djibouti-is-becoming-gateway-to-africa-for-china-a-1191441.html

    President Xi Jinping ushered in a new era of “real win-win cooperation” between China and Africa. This strategy aims to create mutual prosperity, allowing investors to “do good while doing right.” China has backed this proposal up with a commitment of $60 billion of new investment in major capital projects, which are tied to developing local economic capacity.

    Take Eritrea economy collapsed and thousand of people experienced the bitterness of poverty, unemployment and despair. IA gradually adopted one that that is more consistent with the very radical communist policies that pushed newly independent country to its knees in the first place.
    For a brief historical moment, IA the student of Maoist, IA could have ignited hope that Eritrea could resurrect a long-dormant progressive Leftist politics tide in the east Africa . The end result, however, was quite disappointing. Not only did IA betrayed the aspirations of the Eritrean people who initially some how many supported his regime, It was not exactly wishful thinking.
    And today we find out sold out, not only politically and ideologically, but in an actual physical sense as well.
    Eritrean people and the country is isolated it also betrayed the country’s of not maintaining amicable relationships with its neighboring countries. Radical Communist IA ,refuse to reform the economic and political system. He brought misery and catastrophic results for Eritrean people. The vast majority now live in absolute poverty and disastrous results. Eritreans increasingly see no future with IA dictatorship.

  • g. michael Tzerai

    ጎጀምጀም ኣብ ዝተሓጽረ ኣካባቢ ዝርከቡ ነንሕድሕዶም ስለ ዝተኣማምኑ ዘሎው’ዩ ዘምስል። ከምኡ ማለተይ ግን ኣይኮነን። ዓዋተ ዶት ኮም ክፉት ናይ ዝተፋላለየ ኣራኣኣያታት ዘሎዎም ቡዙሓት ካብቶም ጸሓፍቲ ብኽእለቶምን ጥልቀት ምስ ስፍሓት ኣታሓሳስብኦምን ክመኡ ውን ኣቃራርብኦምን ክንሕበነሎም ዝግብኣና ዜጋታትና’ዮም። ሳልሕ ጋዲ ናይቲ ወብ ሳዪት (awate.com) ኣማሓዳሪ ጥራሕ ዘይኮነ ፈልፋሊ ናይ ክንደይ እዋናዉያን ጹሑፋትዝኾነ እሞ ናይ ካልኦት ቡዙሓት ጸሓፍቲ ዝኣንገደ’ዩ። ካብዚኦም ሓደ ዓዋተ ዶት ኮም ዝኣንግዶም http://awate.com/perceptions-values-transforming-the-eritrean-minds/
    ብዝብል ኣራኣስቲ ዝጸሓፈ ኣማኑኤል ህድራት’ዩ። ንሽግራትና ኣፋታትሖም ብዝምልከት ንኹላትና ኣገዳሲ’ዩ። ቆሎታይ ከበሰታይ ብዘየገድስ። ቲ ዘገርም’ግን ዘይዝረበሉ ሓጹር ኣብ ሞንጎ ከበሳን ቆላን ኤርትራ ክም ዘሎ’ዩ ዝግሃድ። ሓጹር ናይ ኣታሓሳስባን ኣረዳድኣ ሽግራትና ቀጺሉ ድማ ኣፋታትሑኡን።

    ዓዋተ ዶት ኮም ሳልሕ ጋዲ ማለተይ’የ ብሓርፍፋ ስእሊ ኣጋላልጻይ ኣይትሓዘለይ ብከምኡ ስለ ዝርድኦ።

    እቲ ሓጹር መበገሲኡ እንድሕሪ ተረዲእናዮ ምስ ሙሉእ ጊዜየኡን ጂዮግራፊካዊ ምዕባለኡን፡ ነንሕድሕድና ኣብ ምቅርርራብ ቡዙሕ መሓገዘ። እወ ግሁድን ቡዙሕምምርማር ዘየድልዮ ፖሊቲኮ/ሶሻል/ኤኮኖሚ ማዕበል ከምዉሑጅ ብመግዛእቲ ዝተጀመረ ስጋብ ሕጂ ፍጢሩዎ ዘሎ ኩነት ክግለጸሉ ዝግብኦ መድረኽ በጺሕና’ሎና፡ መታን’ዚ ሓጹር እንታይነቱ ክርድኣና። URBANIZATION ክትምና ኣብ ትሕቲ መግዛእቲ፡ ከምኡውን ኣከባብያዊ ጸለውታ (REGIONAL IMPACT) ዝብሃሉ ሱር ሓዘል ሓሳባት ንላለዮም። ቲ ሓጹር መንቂ ናይ ከማና ዝኣመሰሉ ሃገራት ካብ ትሕቲ መግዛእቲ ዝወጹ ስጋብ ሕጂ ኣብ ነውጺ ዝእትዎም ዘሎ’ዩ።

    ንምዝኽኻር፥ ህ/ግ ነቓዓት ሕብረተሰብና ኢሉ ዘለለልዮም (social cleavages – መሰረት ናይ ጸጋማዊ ርእይቶ ዓለም) ሰለስተ ነሮም። ኣብ ሞንጎ ሃገረሰብን ከተማን፡ ኣብ ሞንጎ ጾታ፡ ኣብ ምንጎ ከበሳን ቆላን።

    እንደገና ሓርፋፍ ስእሊ ይመጸኒ ኩሉ ጊዜ፡፡ ደፊረ ክዛረብ እንድሕሪ ኮይነ ቲ ዝገፍሐ ኣብ ሞንጎ ቆላን ከበሳን ሙዃዋኑ ኩሉ ዝፈልጦ’ዩ። ቲ ኣብ ሞንጎ ጾታ ቦዂሩ ዝተረፈ ኮይኑ ቲ ኣብ ሞንጎ ሃገርሰብን ከተማን ግን ቲ ከተማ ናብ ሃገረሰብ ስለ ዝወረደ ይከውን ዳርጋ ዝሃሰሰ’ዩ ዝመስል።

    ገ ሚካኤል

    • Sarah Ogbay

      g.michael,
      Thank you for the wise opinions on the issues Amanuel raised. But I don’t get what you actually want to imply by ‘ቲ ኣብ ሞንጎ ጾታ ቦዂሩ ዝተረፈ ኮይኑ’. I would really appreciate it if you can elaborate it.
      Thank you again.
      sarah

      • g. michael Tzerai

        ንሳራ

        ከምቲ ኩሉ ዝተጸበናዮ ኣብ ጽባሕ ናጽነት፡ ደቀ-ንስትዮ እቲ ኣብ ገድሊ ናብ ጾታዊ ምዕርነት ዝስጎሙኦ ኣብ ሓራ ኤሪትራ ምስ ሰላምን ምዕባለን ብዝፈጠነ ክቕጽልኦ ብዙሕ ተስፋ ነሩ። ስርዓት ህግደፍ ብድፍኑ መሰል ወድ ሰብ ዘይክበረሉ ግዝኣተ ሕጊ ዘየብሉ ሕብረ ሒዙ ኣብ ዝጓዓዘሉ እዋን ጉዕዞ ናብ ጾታዊ ማዕርነት’ውን ደስኪሉ ተሪፉ ንማለት’የ።

        • Sarah Ogbay

          G,michael.
          Thank you. እኳ ደአ አዴታትና አሓትናን ደቅናን አደዳ ዝኸፍአ ግፍዕን ዓመጽን ኮይነን። አዴታት ወሊደን ብኽንደይ መከራ ዘዕበይኦም አጓብዘንን ጉራዙተንን ካብ ገዛእቲ ንዝገደዱ ጨካናት ተዃሉ አገልገቲ ኾይኖም። መረውዕ ብዘይ ሰብኡተን ተሪፈን፣ መብዝሕተአን ደቀን ብዘይ አቦ (single mothers) የዕብያ አለዋ። ብዙሓት ናአሽቱ አዋልድና አደዳ ንሕስያ ዘብሎ ጎሕሉ ኾይነን። አዴታትናን አሓትናን አብ ሪጋ ባኒ ላምባ፣ ጋዝ፣ መጥሓን፣ በርበረ፣ ኩፖን ወዘተ ይአርጋ አለዋ። ካብኡ ሓሊፉ ኸአ ናይወላዲት ከብደን ብናፍቕት ፍርሒን ሓዘንን ሓሪረን አለዋ። ብዙሓት ደቀን ናበይ ከምዘበሉ ወይ ከምዝአተዉ አይፈልጣን….. ወረ ሬሳ ዝስከም ጎበዝ ዝተሳእነሉ ጊዜ በጺሕና ኢና። Not that you all don’t know this but we have to remind ourselves of what is happening to our people and look at ourselves in the mirror in order to answer Amanuel Hidrat’s questions. Are we really doing what we should be doing to call ourselves Justice seekers? why are we looking sideways at each other instead of forward at our enemy? We are giving our enemy the opportunity to infiltrate and neutralize our drive for justice, energy to fight and most of all our culture of respect and care. I better stop here.

  • chefena

    Selam Hope
    Forgive my delayed response. If we use the same analogy, comparing the system’s life to that of an organism and its parts, and ‘if the ONE Man goes away’, then there will be a kind of pathological problem.
    But the system as an entity may continue to breath. In the social sense, the system can still continue to exist, which is why we say PFDJ is a system. We can only speculate what kind of life this entity will lead with a complete failure of one its vital organs

  • Haile S.

    Selam Emma,

    ጽሑፍካ ስሒቡኒ ኣንቢበዮ
    ኣነ ድየ ገዚፍ-ኮሊሰ፡ ገዚፍ-ቀርዲድካዮ
    እወ፡ ሓቂ ተሪር እንድዩ እንተ ዘይሓዋዊስካዮ
    ክኾምስዕ ቀነኹልካ እንሆ ድርጉሕ ዘበልካዮ
    ገበል መሲለልካ ዝውሓጠ ቅዓዮ

    ሕጂ ግን ኣብ ጭራኡ በጺሐ ቀሊሉኒ
    ወይስ ንሱ ዶ’ ንታሕቲ ወሪዱ ክፈኹሰኒ
    እንሆ እምበኣርከስ ኣነ ዝመሰለኒ
    ሕቶኻ ክልፍልፍ ኣተባቢዑኒ

    Do we celebrate our diversity-
    -as a FORCE of our common identity?

    Without double not to its full vitality
    Wish I could have YESed with certainity
    Lot of fog covering our visual acuity
    While not far from FORCE’s proximity
    Just consider our citizen’s practicality
    Let’s hang on the wall Humpty Dumpty
    To break open the yoke of skewed unity

    ከበሮን ኩዳን ስለዝበዝሐ ናይ ፈላለይቲ
    ንገሌና ዝመስሉ ዘይተመርጹ ተቓለስቲ
    መዲቦም ናይ ባዕሎም ኣሰነይቲ
    ስለ ዝነፈጉና ናይ ማእከል ተወከልቲ
    ሙዚቃ መሳርያታትና ሃጊሮም ተሪፉና ኣጻብዕቲ
    ኰንና ተሪፍና ኣብ ገምገም መጣቓዕቲ
    ተስፋ ኣይትቁረጽ –
    ተስፋና ሙሉእ እዩ ድልየት ኣብ ኩልና ስለ ዘሎ
    እንዳተጓሳሰና ክንበጽሖ ንኽእል ጨፈና ከም ዝበሎ
    BTW ፍቐዱለይ ነዚ ኣተግባራይ ሓወይ ሃብሮም ክብሎ።

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Merhaba Hailat,

      You are one of the big hitters. Common digest it and reflect what you couldn’t say it in certainty. How do we make our diversity as a force of identity?

      • Haile S.

        Selam Emma and all,

        A big hitter? I hope you meant of idea. On our force, I thought I had said few things like stating that our diversity is not that far apart and by mentioning what individual like Chefena is doing. Let me add this then. To strengthen our force of diversity there are few things that we can do at our level here in this forum. You for example point finger at highlanders (one of the hard part of your talk I alluded to above). One thing the highlanders (you and me included) should do is use their two eyes to face their divers brothers and sisters within Eritrea before they look at their kins south or instead of one eye facing in front the other sideways to the south. These glimpses towards the south manifest not only in the form of ወያነ ትሓቕቅ ኣላ, but also in the form of ወያነ ሓቀኛ ገባርን ሓዳግን እዩ. Bringing the south into the discussions as the the truth bearers in order to attribute all sins on our leaders is not fruitful and is detrimental to the force of our diversity.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Hailat,

          Since we are talking about ideas, the “big hitter” refers to your diversity of knowledge you exhibit in the discussion.

          • Haile S.

            Emma,
            Je vous en prie*, Monsieur! You better it, you better it. To borrow Kbrom’s ጉሮማይለ language.
            * a long form of french very polite pleaaase.

    • Kbrom

      Selam Haile

      ንዘረባ ዘረባ ምስኣምጸኦ
      ዱግሪና ጉዳይ ዶብና ኣውጸኦ
      ኮነ ኸኣ ብዛዕባ መሬት ዘቲና
      እምበር ምጽራይ ገዛና
      ሙኻኑ እቲ ቀዳምነትና
      ኩላትና ንሰማምዓሉ እንዲና

      ዘረባ ኣይተሰርዐን ጓና ከንሕጢ
      ያኢ ከነድሕን ጋኔን ውሽጢ ዓዲ
      ኣብ ገዛእ ዓይንና እናሃለወ ጉንዲ
      ሰባት ጨፍሊቑ ብዓመጽ ዘሳቒ
      ደቡብና ዘሎ በሰር የብልናን ዘርኢ

      ሓደ ይኹን
      እግርን ከበሮን
      እቲ ምንታይሲ
      ለዓት ብዘይ ሓኽሊ
      ቆፎ ብዘይ እኽሊ
      እትን ኣይጸርብ እትን ኣየዕሪ

      ሓደ ይኹን ህዝቢ
      ከም ህርመት ምስ ልቢ
      እቲ ምንታይ
      ህዝቢ ብዘይ ሕጊ
      ቤት ብዘይ ዓንዲ
      እትን ኣይስራዕ እትን ኣይዓቢ

      ሓደ ይኹን ዛዕባ
      ስርዓት ዘለዎ ዘረባ
      እቲ ምንታይ
      ዕንጸይቲ ብዘይ ማእዶ
      ሰብ ብዘይ ጎጆ
      እቲን ኣይጥመር እትን ኣይከብር

      • Haile S.

        Selam Kbrom,

        ሓቅኻ ከምቲ
        ዘይሕማመን የጥርጠን
        ዘይሰብኣየን የጓስጠን
        ዝብል ድሑር ምስላ እንድዩ ኮይኑና
        ናይ ውሽማና ከይኣኽለና
        ንዑ ንበሎ ሸኾና ሸኮና

        BTW ብትግራይት ንማሕሙድን ሳልሕን ዝበልካዮ ሰኒ ሰኒ ሰኒ፡ ዋላኳ ምሉእ እንተ ዘይተረድኣኒ።

        • Kokhob Selam

          Selam Haile and Kbrom,

          እዞም ብዙሁሓት ሃገራውያን ጀጋኑ:-
          ተግባራት ህግደፍ ዝነጸጉ ዝኾኖኑ:-
          ድሕሪ ባይቶኦም ብዙሕ ኮይኑ:-
          ኣይከኣሉን ክትኣማመኑ:-

          እዚ ስለዝኾነ ፈሪሖም ንለውጢ:-
          እነሆ ይነብሩ ኣብ ዕግረገር ቀውጢ:-
          ካብ ቁምነገረኛ ንላዕሊ በዚሁ ዘዕጠጢ:-
          እነሆ ዕድመ ህግደፍ ኮይኑ ተመጣጢ:-

          KS,,

  • Yohannes Zerai

    Dear Amanuel,

    Following up on my earlier promise to you, I began organizing the thoughts that your questions induced in my mind and proceeded to put them in writing. Before I knew it (and when I was about to wrap up the writing), however, my “response in-preparation” had already grown up to 960 words! But as you and many others would agree, it would be odd, if not inappropriate, to post such a lengthy text as a comment on just a single point related to an article.

    So, with your permission I would like to revise my previously announced intent of posting a full-fledged comment in one go. I now believe it would be more helpful and beneficial if instead I: (i) develop my draft text a little further in the next few day and submit it to Awate for posting as a short article – of course, courtesy of Mr Amanuel Hidrat who did plant in my mind the seeds of the ideas that the article will be conveying, and (ii) tentatively present this brief comment to just state the “integrating theme of the ideas and arguments” that will be expounded in the planned article. So, here we go:

    1. It is imperative that all Eritreans – the old generation as well as the new – contribute ideas for discussion regarding such socio-political issues as “diversity”, “identity” and “equity in governance”. But, for obvious reasons, the responsibility for taking action to influence and manage these issues in the future should appropriately rest with the young generation.

    2. The Eritrean opposition movement in the diaspora and its constituent political groups have a historical duty to do everything possible to “care for”, “support” and “uplift” Eritrea’s much neglected (and even maligned) refugee population in exile everywhere. Doing so is, first and foremost, moral, human and patriotic duties of any society that claims to uphold the principles of liberty and justice. At the second level, but not any less significant, is the fact that any movement/group that struggles to bring about “Eritrea’s salvation and the emancipation of its people” CANNOT & SHOULD NOT hope to succeed while leaving such a crucial sector of the population behind! – a sector that is composed of “the many, the young, the innocent, the abused, the aggrieved, THE FORSAKEN!!”

    Thank you.

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Yohannes,

      Thank you for suggesting, you to come with a well thought article to tackle it. I look forward to learn something from you, as I did from all your past articles. I am expecting the top-notch writers either to engage in this forum or to come with elaborated articles. Thank you for taking the initiative.

      Regards

  • Kbrom

    Hi All,

    Here’s what Eritrea would look like If we had a constitution.

    ”Kenyan High Court orders government to end TV station shutdown” stating that it is ‘a violation of constitutionally guaranteed media freedoms’.

  • saay7

    Selamat Emma:

    Thank you for your solutions-oriented articles; they always force us to remember that with which we are complacent about.

    In ample consideration for the sanity of our readers, I will not rehash our arguments of Is It A System Or Is It A Man? Since you remember my articles better than I do, you will remember I called Eritrea’s system a monocracy–and a “cracy” is by definition a form of government, no? Please refer to Mahmuday’s elaboration on that point.

    (Incidentally, on the “hope over fear, love over hate”, I was referring to the challenge the people faced post-Akhria and how most chose hope and love over fear and hate. And I think that is borne by the fact that the crazies in our midst are a minority, albeit loud and attention-grabbing.

    Leaders, as you know, come in all shapes and colors. Some are rarer than others: they challenge the society they come to change, instead of articulating all its biases and grievances. The fact that we don’t have those just makes us a normal society, I think, and not something to grieve over.

    I am not crazy about the idea of civil society getting funding to get older generation to teach new generation how to lead. It should be a bit more organic and seamless than that. The problem we have now is that both antagnoists see themselves as victims: the oppo sees itself as victim of the government, and the government sees itself as victim of the world. And you can’t get victims to do much more than chronicling how and why they became victims. If, as you say, we are going to challenge our assumptions and change, we probably should begin by considering that victims don’t inspire, they garner sympathy.

    Also, Emma, you are quoting Alan Alda to speak about the importance of changing assumptions? I am not aware of that man having changed any of his assumptions–he was a young leftie and now he is an old leftie, living in the Leftie’s Capital City, Hollywood.

    Sorry if my response appears disjointed: the usual reason: in a rush!

    saay

    • Selam Saay,

      You call Lemma a “flatterer” this time. Some time ago, if i am not mistaken, again you had a critical view about him, although i do not remember the exact words.

      Well, we know that some ethiopians who are against ethiopian unity do not support his political views of the common and uniting ethiopian identity. They hate him for saying, “Ethiopians are like sergena teff…… gathered together…. milled together…… eaten together. EthiopiaWINet is a deep passion. We cannot go forward looking backwards. Let us not dwell on the past.” In addition, in his latest video he was telling us that “The thing that existed in ethiopia has always been the superiority of the ruling class and never an ethnic group superiority or hegemony. There was/is not the condition in which the superiority of one ethnic group can exist in ethiopia. Nevertheless, amhara elites and tplf, the ruling classes, have used ethnicity to rule so that it looked like as if what they are doing is supported and approved by the amhara people in the past and the people of tigray at the present.

      He tells all, oromos and others, that everybody is a stakeholder in whatever happens in the whole country and not only in their ethnic enclaves, whether it is in oromia, amhara, tigray, afar, etc. Those who hate the very existence of ethiopia seem to hate him for his worldview that goes beyond ethnicity, and speaks of a common and united ethiopian identity, and those who would like to see an oromo + amhara front against tigrayans, hate him also for not attacking the whole tigrayan ethnic group, and for separating the elites, the tplf exploiting class of people, from the rest.

      What this man says are facts that could lead ethiopia to peace and harmony, many would not like to see. He seems to be an open-minded young man with no baggage, who if he continues to support the same political agenda of rapprochement of the diverse people of ethiopia, democracy, peace and prosperity could be a possibility in the country. He seems to be a big asset for the oromo people and for all ethiopians. What we have to do is to give him the chance to see if he can walk the walk instead of condemned him right away.

      • saay7

        Horizon:

        I called Lemma a flatterer and a demagogue, but I will yield to you, the Ethio-experts for reconsideration:

        Amde is still enamored
        Eyob has fallen off the wagon
        Horizon is hopeful

        Fanti is the African Horn’s Dalai Lama and he loves everyone so we will apply a discount to his assessment.

        But seriously, I have yet to hear Lemma say a single thing that challenges the dogma of the Unionists. Last week, I heard him wrap himself tightly around the Ethiopian Church describing it as deeply interwoven with Ethiopian history. I don’t know what the ocassion was but the flatterer always finds a reason to stare at the rear-view mirror and not the windshield.

        saay

        • Selam Saay,

          Excuse me for asking what seems to be a simple question. What exactly is the thing you called “the dogma of the Unionists”? Where and how does it fit into the ethiopian political makeup?

          Ethiopian unity and sovereignty, and the defunct eritrean unionists of the fifties are known to me. What i do not know is if there are a so called “ethiopian unionists”, their aim and their background.
          If the unity of ethiopia makes them unionists, i have no problem there; but if they are a replica of the defunct eritrean unionists from the ethiopian side, who want to resuscitate a dead history, they have no historical or political ground to stand on.

          The last time i asked somebody, the answer i got was not a clear one. I was told that there could be different ways of interpreting it. Rightly or wrongly i was forced to imagine that it was an indirect way of saying “amhara hegemony”.

          I really appreciate a lot if you could enlighten me on this in few words.
          Thank you.

          • saay7

            Selamat Horizon:

            The dogma of the unionists is that Ethiopia was very well served by its successive kings and all that needs to happen is to have a kinder-gentler king who treats Ethiopia as a unitary state with, as one Oromo activist called it “one language (of course, Amharic), one people, one culture, one ethnic dominance (of course, Amhara dominance) and one flag under one God.” It is the Ethiopian version of Hade lbi Hade hzbi.

            Thus, the virtues Lemma gets complimented on are for his mastery of the Amharic language, for his wrapping himself around the Ethiopian flag tightly, his glorification of Ethiopian history. To borrow what Candidate Biden said of Candidate Biden in the 2008 elections, “I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy.”

            saay

          • Selam Saay,

            It is good morning here. Please, bear with me for a few more minutes. Here is an idea after my morning coffee. 😁

            What is the important role played by the Unionists that they have become an issue in today’s ethiopian politics. Those who are nostalgic of the old and dead system have no chance that they would ever make a dent in future ethiopian politics.

            Unionists (let me also call them royalist) may come out with uniforms and a flag with the lion of judah on it, but their effort and achievements will never go beyond that. It is difficult to imagine that ethiopians will rally to bring back to the throne the ghosts of the past, abandon their identity, language and culture for a monolithic imperial identity under a crown and a throne, especially now after tasting the intoxicating nectar of ethnic federalism. It is out of the question, in my opinion. Don’t you think that it is giving too much value, even though they do not have the remotest chance to make a comeback.

            It is the old and dying generation that is mainly its political base, except the few young people who either do not know what they want, or may be they have distant relatives whose ghosts are haunting them and do not leave them alone and have become fidgety. Moreover, some people may want not only money and fame, but also a crown and a throne as well, and that may be the reason they go around wearing uniforms. To the rest of ethiopians, Unionists are ghosts of the past, and they do not apply to them, especially to the young ethiopian politicians of the day in any way imaginable, to become an issue to worry about.

            An oromo politician flirting with Unionists is impossible and difficult to believe. I also believe that the recent story of the love affair between oromos and amharas should not be seen as a Unionist thing, but the result of the greed, arrogance and audacity of tplf that has enraged the majority of ethiopians over a quarter century, and is starting to have its effect. I believe that Ethiopia has more or less closed the chapter of Unionists and royalists a long time ago.

          • saay7

            Horizon:

            There is a quote attributed to Maya Angelou that marketers use as an article of faith. It goes: I’ve learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel. . I think Lemma makes some people feel good, and some people feel bad (eg Regional Prez Abdi), but they never explain why. (Not surprisingly, he has been compared with Obama.) This is because as a reformer (and as a executive member of the EPRDF much hated by those who love him he must, by definition, be a reformer) he hasn’t put ideas of what changes he is recommending. If he did, I missed it and invite his fans to tell me. If it is the usual መልካም አስተዳደር and ኪራይ ስብሰባ, Hailemariam has been saying that for years now.

            On the unionists my fault: I should have been more specific: I meant unitary statists and not unionists. The royalists are a subset of the unionists and the unionists are a subset of the Unitarians (not the church but the anti-federalists.) Lemma vaporware has been all the greatest hits of the Unitarians: language, flag, history, church. All that’s missing is ቀይ ባህራችን::

            Anyway, all this is view from afar. For more precise reading, take the square of Amdes views, add it to the cube of Kaddis views, add 1/2 of አርበኛው ወያነ Fanti views plus 1/3 of Eyobs views (multiplied by zero), stir, let simmer and serve.

            Saay

          • Mez

            Good day Saay,

            A very interesting mathematics; when I see it with/without my eyelass the result is zero.

            You mean at the end all the same…

          • saay7

            Selam Mez:

            I see the confusion but the “multiplied by zero” only applies to 1/3 of Eyob’s views. He is wrong about everything 🙂

            saay

          • ghezaehagos

            Hello,

            Q: Who is this Lemma?

            Thanks,

            G.

          • saay7

            Hey Ghezae:

            Lema Megersa is the chairman of Oromo People’s Democratic Organization (OPDO), the largest member of the four-party-coalition of Eritrea People’s Revolutionary Democratic Front (EPRDF.)

            saay

          • Berhe Y

            saay,

            Eritrea People’s Revolutionary Democratic Front (EPRDF).

            Berhe

          • saay7

            Hi Berhe:

            Ha! There is a reason why Estonia was created: it was to separate Eritrea and Ethiopia from being confused for each other:)

            saay

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Saay,

            What is this “Estonia” in reference to Ethio-Eritrean border other than one of the Baltic countries (part of the old Soviet).

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Emma,

            Saay wrote Eritrea instead of Ethiopia when he wrote “Eritrea People’s Revolutionary Democratic Front (EPRDF)”.

            He saying Estonia is created, the country that comes between Eritrea and Ethiopia, in the Alphabetical order of countries. He is joking that it’s created so people are not confused between the two countries, as in UN general assembly for example:).

            Berhe

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Merhaba Berhe,

            I understand his typo error on the EPRDF instead Ethiopia he said Eritrea. The Estonia thing does not give sense to me. Simply he could have say it, it is a typo error thank you.

            Regard

          • Eyob Medhane

            Sal,

            Huh? “….. Eritrean People’s Democratic Front?….” Now, not only qey bahirachin, you also took our Messiah Lemma Megersa?..When will it end? (Smh)

          • saay7

            Eyobai,

            Refer to Berhe Y’s message below….

            Your messiah: this won’t end well: I saw a pic of your messiah on a taxi. Just some random pic for no godly reason.

            saay

          • Eyob Medhane

            Sal,

            Leave us alone we are in a making of a King…we missed those times.. 🙂 Next thing you know we will start saying “..Ere beLemma Amlak..”.. 🙂

          • saay7

            Eyob:

            Whatever rocks your boat. Wait: boats need seas. Never mind.

            saay

          • Eyob Medhane

            Sal,

            With Lemma we will have Merkeb soon, when we reclaim qey bahirachin.. 🙂

          • saay7

            Eyob:

            Lemma will have Merkeb? As in Merkeb Negash? I thought Merkeb was with TPLF and not OPDO 🙂

            saay

          • blink
          • Amde

            Hi Saay,

            I seriously don’t know what you have against Lemma.

            Then again, I seriously DO know what you have against Lemma.

            This series starting with the Can-Be-Freudian-Slip-Ish-ly-Interpreted “Lema Megersa is the chairman of Oromo People’s Democratic Organization (OPDO), the largest member of the four-party-coalition of Eritrea People’s Revolutionary Democratic Front (EPRDF.)” and ending with Amanuel Hidrat as king What’s Estonia got to do with it, was one of the funniest ones I have read in a while.

            1. Yes – Lemma yimechegnal, and I don’t flatter easy. He would be an excellent transition figure. Actually I can see him as a great post-transition figure as well.
            2. Flattery put Trump in the White House. In Western Democracies it is called winning people’s hearts and minds. Infinitely better than Ak-47 totting gunslingers.
            3. I do not think this is a Lemma show. If he is to be accused of flattery, then one must accuse most of the current OPDO leadership and a large swath of its membership of the same.
            4. Lemma is trying to stay ahead of a wave he has very little control over. At least he knows he is in water – there are many of his Ihadegan colleagues who think they are still sitting down for afternoon tea.
            5. The fact that Lemma is wrapping himself in the Ethiopian flag must tell you something about where he judges the center of current Oromo consensus is wrt Ethiopia the State and Ethiopia the identity.

            Amde

          • Kbrom

            Dear Amde and saay

            Should it be Lema or not Lema, or should it be addressing the root cause?

            I read today an article titled ‘Ethiopia: End Game? (sound familiar, no it is not by PIA it is by Bronwyn Bruton). Since Atlantic Council’s motto is ‘working together to secure the future’, I was hoping to see some constructive points that suggest the way out, however I found the content – including the name calling style of the writing – not to match perfectly with AC’s mission of ‘in-depth analysis and incisive commentary’.

            Now to my two cents taking.

            It has been two years since Ethiopia has been indulged in nationwide civilian disobedience. Many believe that the root cause for the popular discontent is the ethno-linguistic federalism that marginalised and discriminated particular ethnic groups, with a consequence of widespread human right violations, which in turn led to more and widespread protest, political unrest and international condemnation (though not as it should be).

            The EPRDF (mainly the TPLF) has its own version. For the ruling coalition, the problem is simply a failure of administration, largely attributed to mal-governance, grand corruption and absence of synergy between local (ክልላዊ) and federal government. Thus, the EPRDF is not showing any sign of fundamental political reform except making cosmetic changes.

            More over, some high profile personalities in the EPRDF believe that, what is unfolding in Ethiopia is a result of its ‘rapid two digit economic development’; according to Ambassador Kasa Tekleberhan, Ethiopian Ambassador to USA, the economic growth which ‘heralded’ progress in opening many universities and introduced great tax collection system without preparing enough jobs for the young graduates is one of the main reasons.

            The main reason that the situation in Ethiopia is worsening is because of such a kind of EPRDF’s state of denial and delusional evaluation. TPLF thinks that just because it went to Mekele and has sought apology from its people, all political and socio economic discontents are solved. ቢኣዴን thinks that Bereket Simon has apologized and all its problem is gone. Accordingly, the EPRDF believes everything is ‘under control’.

            Based on its recent evaluations (ጥልቅ ግምገማ) the EPRDF believes that making some changes including the release of prominent prisoners and some gestures of extending an olive branch to the country’s marginalised communities’ leaders would suffice.

            The EPRDF hopes this gesture to lead to easing tensions ‘dramatically’. It is also planning to set up series of peace dialogues with opposition organisations – though with selected one – mainly with the more liberal faction of Oromo.

            The main point of this comment is around this scenario.

            I do not believe such sort of round table discussions, accompanied by the spirit and letter of EPRDF’s unrealistic reading of the current political landscape will address the root cause and fruit a sustainable solution for Ethiopian crises. Recent history tells us that several such peace negotiations and discussion have failed to address the root causes and concluded with much more worst scenarios and unsuccessful results.

            The Comprehensive Peace Agreement also known as the Naivasha between SPLA and Sudan, the Eastern Sudan Peace Agreement between Eastern Sudan and the Federal Government, and the The 2008–2009 Zimbabwean political negotiations between the opposition Movement for Democratic Change and the ruling Zimbabwe African National Union – Patriotic Front are few examples of failed accords – for one common reason: they did not address the root cause!

            Why are peace talks doomed do fail?

            1) Externally imposed solutions.
            When countries are engaged in gross humanitarian violation, it draws increasing international involvement that leads to rounds of peace talks. If the peace process starts as a result of external initiatives, it becomes natural for the agendas to be directed by the international stakeholders. In such circumstances the sovereignty norm is no longer a paramount to be the owner of the course of action hence, the agenda and their end resolutions become externally imposed. Such declarations lack the genuine engagement of the community and grassroots at stake; the external powers who lack sensitivity to the local political, social, and economic needs of the people come up with resolutions that reflect their own national and regional interest.

            2) Addressing the ambition of the elite and not the root cause
            Most political negotiations start with the buzz concepts of ‘power and wealth sharing’. Such points mostly address the ambitions of leaders who are often manipulated and captured by the interest of the elite that is shaped around the individuals’ and may be certain groups’ and not on broad interaction with the community or ethnic group at large. The Naivasha agreement which is said to have spent much of its time on ‘Teqasim alsultha’ has discussed little about the people of the Sudan and their socio- economic and cultural needs.

            3) Template-based approaches
            Politicians are more into signing the agreement and the photo opportunity that involve the exchange of the doc and the pride that comes with it. The devils in the details are dealt by the experts who are mostly technocrats. The technocratic approach plays a negative role in most peace processes, because by nature of their skills, they effectively try to ‘depoliticise’ the discussion and jump in to a template-based approaches that worked somewhere else but not necessary relevant to the country at stake.
            I remember in one African workshops a World Bank officer who was lecturing on ‘structural adjustment’ forgot to include in his ‘find and replace’ the title of the country when using the template that he used in one of the kingdoms, consequently his power point slides were stating ‘the kingdom of Botswana’.

            Reference

            Bruton, 2018. Ethiopia: End Game? Atlantic Council,

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Saay(Aya AdiU),

      Thank you for your in put to our discussion. I will not go further to discuss on the one-man system argument, because the majority of the forumers agreed that there is no a system that stand by one pillar so to speak. But you threw two nuggets for us to chew on, as part of our discussion on the subject at hand.

      (a) on the issue of “organic” and “training” and their relations in their application in the Eritrean politics or in any politics for that matter. Our politics for so long has suffered of lack of leadership. Our experience in the Eritrean politics shows that, for every “matured objective realities” we encountered, we failed to bring it in to a successful conclusion. And that is due to lack of matured and well trained leadership, what we call it in the language of politics lack of “subjective matter.” Training is quintessential in any discipline of knowledge, so is for politics of governance and leadership management. Organic in sociopolitics and with in the context of the subject on discussion is to enroll leaders from the communities of our nationals. So the concepts are inter-related and interdependent on the issue we are discussing. Second, one of the role of civil society is to train young generation to prepare for near future the skills of leadership. So if we have organizations of civil society to play that roll using experts from developed nation through workshops on the specifics of our reality is a plus.

      (b) framing the issue of “victimization” in our politics. I beg to differ in framing it between the regime and the opposition. These forces are antagonistic forces who fight to occupy power by their impulsive conceit. At the center of this, the victim in their war of politics is the “real Eritrean people”. These forces are on record as victimizers of our people.

      Regards

      • saay7

        Selamat Emma:

        On the two nuggets (I had hoped they would be of the precious metal variety and not the ones sold by McDonald’s), I believe they are inter-related and continue to pose a challenge not just for the oppo but for Eritrean body politic in general. Let me give it a shot by listing some premises:

        1. The government and those who are sympathetic to its arguments (and they are not all blind supporters) argue that Eritrea (the country, not just the government) has been victimized by the world (and its world order as articulated by the Permanent Three) when it comes to protecting its territorial integrity (Badme, etc) and sovereignty (the right to have an in independent foreign policy including towards Somalia.) This, in turn, has forced the government to institute policies that prioritize safeguarding further encroachment (indefinite military conscription) and preventing economic collapse(centralized economic planning, currency change), and delaying political reforms (constitution, private press.) The Permanent Three then use these ኣብዮት (defiance) to create counter moves (Human Right Council, sanctions, 2% denial), which then gets the government to say, “see, we are being bullied! We are being picked on!” Now this is the critical part: according to the government, there are Eritrean quislings working “day and night” in cooperation with enemies of the state against the interest of the country. Night and Day (of course, I don’t know a single opposition member who works night and day: it is mostly “some days when I am not busy.” The State of Eritrea, according to this telling, is the most victimized nation on earth since the beginning of time.

        2. Meanwhile, we in the Oppo say that the government works night and day to make the life of the average Eritrean miserable. It demands indefinite conscription of the youth forcing them to exile, It has implemented rule of man and not rule of law, there is no constitution, the education and healthcare system is substandard, it has confiscated people’s money (It is no longer Eritrea but ዱካን ኢሳይያስ with the man giving መሳሪፍ (stipends) to the people, from their own money. We say, with some cause, that there are many dictatorships in the world, but ours is the worst because it gives no political space to any form of dissent or disagreement. And, seeking allies, we go looking and, of course, our allies goals are not perfectly aligned with ours (more aligned, though, than that of the Ethio opposition waving maps with Ethiopian Red Sea.)

        So, basically, we have two antagonists vying for the mantle of the world’s most victimized. And all they are looking for is sympathy and not a plan of action for change. When was the last time the Gov of Eritrea made any changes of any sort to change the dynamic in Eritrea? Never. It has been predicting the demise of Weyane for 12 years, each year it says, “this is it! Goodbye Weyane!” and it points to some random event as the definitive sign that the prediction is coming true. And we in the opposition are experts are rearranging superficial things: this org changed its name, that org merged with that other org which splintered from that other org. We are waiting for the PFDJ to collapse of its own dead stinking weight, hoping that every event (Forto, Akhriya, Lampedusa) is the tipping point. I mean, why not: we are, after all, the most, most victimized people in the world.

        This stalemate has to break. I often read “objective facts on the ground” seminar presentations by PFDJ representatives where they claim that they have rebuffed their enemies and dealt them a fatal blow. And I say, “Good! I hope so! Can we now get to the business of making the country normal? ”

        saay

        • blink

          Dear saay
          Gele kursi bun Ente kone.

          Eritrean Global Solidarity LLC $15,000
          Reporters Without Borders$49,526
          Forum for National Dialogue $39,400
          Human Rights Concern – Eritrea
          $75,305

          This is one of a kind plus the up to 4 million birr lost on our dear brother dinner in awasa. This is all minus the money lost at the Hand of people like Netsereab Asmelash’s landcruser , Sad but not really really sad that It is you that didn’t share a full time job.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Blink,

            This is very good news for the democratic movements against the regime.

            I HOPE, and I wish Awate.com, assenna.com and Asmarino and anyone else who is fighting the regime applies for the grants and get the money they need to fight the regime back home. The amount of time and resources they spend in fighting the regime is nothing compared this token amount of money they need to run the operations.

            That’s a very good start because we are really, really late in this game.

            Since PFDJ supporters argument revolves around Ethiopia and Weyane, please see below how much Ethiopian organization got last year. I will not be surprised if the YPFDJ / PFDJ dressed cover start applying for grants in the name of helping Eritreans.

            Disseminating Human and Democratic Rights Education Peace and Development Center
            $40,170

            Human Rights Advocacy and Research Association for Human Rights in Ethiopia
            $50,200

            Human Rights Fellowship NGO Strengthening
            $48,170

            Promoting a Culture of Public Policy Dialogue Forum for Social Studies
            $50,000

            Promoting Democratic Values and Rule of Law Rule of Law
            $76,564

            Promoting Dialogue and Democratic Values Wazema Ethiopia
            $60,000

            Protection and Promotion of Human Rights Human Rights
            $98,940

            Trade Union Strengthening Solidarity Center (SC)
            $290,000

            Berhe

          • blink

            Dear berhe
            I think money is not everything. I think the way we fight is just not quite right. Our media are far better than most our opposition organizations but still we need an organized opposition that cares for Eritrea and Eritreans not for their pockets. Until now most organizationed opposition parties care not for Eritrea and not for Eritreans. Elsa Kidane with Simon can do very little because the opposition has a trust issues. If one love Ethiopia than Eritrea, I don’t see how he can convince Eritreans to listen to his out cry . Eritreans need a matured people who care for its sovereign and its people. Still now we are left with people like Desbele.

          • Thomas

            Hi Blink,

            You have been writing your views here on this forum for a while now. My question is do you ever worry that no one up-votes your comment? Hahahaha. The only time people respond to your views is when you visit meskeremdotnet and try to copy/paste crab writings from there:) I worry too much for you, Bro:)

          • blink

            Dear Thomas
            I see you , here you are. Upvote hmmmm.

          • Nitricc

            Hi blink; see how Thomas low and stupid he is. he proved it. nothing else.

          • blink

            Dear Nitricc
            Do you think he is Eritrean , these days I question his where about. He told me weyane were in around keren .

          • Thomas

            Hi Blink,

            I think you should have listened to Semere Tesfay. He told you that I have changed my nationality by marrying someone from Adwa, Tigray:)

          • blink

            Dear Thomas
            Semere Tesfay is a great man , infact too great , I admire him as Eritrean fighter and I really admire him the way he twist things on his favor. Don’t you see how the other guys react to his take. I admire him despite the things he say to support Issaias . Listen Tomas , I admire very few people in this site like Saay, MS, Ismael (sometimes he angers me by not writing a comment where his voice matters) , SG , Amanuel Hidrat ( he angers me by being Meles visionary thing) , Beyan and Nitricc for being the most perfect guy on his line for many years and others but no to all these Eshi goytaye people.

            Many people advised me to be this and that , I refused because they don’t know me at all.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Blink; I have no idea. one thing is certain; he dumb as rock, probably the dumbest on this forum. Now I know why he edit his post multiple times , he is trying to get votes lol OMG!

          • blink

            Dear Nitricc
            Please let’s upvote him every single comment he made. I am shocked he care about that.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Blink, I tried but my voting system don’t work. when I upvote someone, it shows me the vote but it disappears after few minutes. there is something wrong with my account. whenever I post, there this red colored notice that read on the bottom of the page. may be this have something to so for me unable to up-vote. I don’t know.

            “We are unable to post your comment because you have been banned by Awate. Find out more.”

          • blink

            Dear Nitricc
            Oh do something, our Eshi Goytaye will be sick if he doesn’t collect his daily dose of upvote. He is worried all his pals are getting lost by the day. Where are his people like Desbele, Paulos, sahay, papi, hayat and Kim… , I think their wagon is on the cliff.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Blink; trust me, I could have send that loser home crying but, SAAY pleaded this “Disruption Squad sits back and takes note” so I am going to respect that and to sit back and take a note.

          • blink

            Dear Nitricc
            Yes I saw that too . Let’s give him a break but I will always upvote him. I thought hayat will jump to defend Meles but she looks she is facing TPLF reality. Did you see the Meles admirer give up and throw his hand on air when kibrom bombed his views. Disconnected my WiFi from my phone just to stay on taking notes. I will send flowers to kibrom for standing up .

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear blink,

            What ever you, say that don’t make any difference ..Keep It in your brain and close it..

            KS,,

          • blink

            Dear KS
            Sorry my man I thought I am telling Nitricc my secret, too bad I am not good at it . Why don’t you think about poems, I am blaming you for reading my comment 😆.

          • Thomas

            Hi Blink,

            You are damn right, I care about the votes I get:) You must be insane, If I did care about votes, would I be writing stuff like I am doing now?? Think harder:)

          • blink

            Dear Thomas
            I already upvoted you , do you want me to ask other people? What is the value of upvote? I don’t really notice that , I have to ask saay about it’s real value?

          • Thomas

            Hi Blink,

            Stop insulting me with your votes now!! hahahaha, you are not making any sense

          • blink

            Dear Thomas
            It helps, I thank you for telling me your trade. Very easy click.

          • Mez

            Hi Nitricc,

            Share whatever you have in mind–every one is happy.

            Please don’t antagonize, and attack individuals. You are much much bigger than that.

            There is nothing to gain, with that, in support of your line of thought.

            Thanks

          • Berhe Y

            Dear blink,

            Weather these Eritreans care for their pockets or for the benefit of their people, I think through their works that we need to judge them. I don’t know all these organizations and what they do, but I think most of them do so for the benefit of their people and not for their pockets. True it’s not to say there would not be one or two who do so to benefit themselves but the benefit outweighs.

            For example, AT has been running since 2001 on a shoe string budget, less than 10,000 to operate such website. That’s only the amount of money spend to pay the hosting companies etc..but the reality is, the owners of the organization have been funding the operation out of their pockets. The annual drive helps….but honestly the amount of time and resources spend to run such website is really taxing on people’s time. They have work and provide money to support their family, pay their rent / mortgages, pay for their kids education etc..and for the little they have left, they spend managing this website.

            If they get paid just the minimum wage (typically over 30 dollars an hour to hire technical person minimum) but say even if minimum wage, the amount of money they would earn is in the thousands…

            Ideally what would be best is, to get the funds they need to operate this full time and they will be able to compensate their wages and concentrate on the website without sacrificing time from their loved once.

            For Elsa Chyrim, I think she did great job in bringing the highlight of Eritreans and human rights abuse in the international community. She deserve every penny to run her organization and I think it’s a job well done. Now if the works for another NGO, I am sure she will be able to make the same amount of money not even more.

            Berhe

          • blink

            Dear Berhe
            Yes , I agree that we are part time on Eritrea’s issues , sad but true.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi blink,

            No it’s that what it means…in realty it’s full time job and a half.

            For example if you are a parent and you have wife and children that depend on you, you wife and children are your first priority and then anything else that comes after that.

            This means you have to work full time to provide for your family and you have to work part time to get involved and in Eritrea issue.

            There is nothing wrong with that….

            What I am suggesting is, those who can and wanted to do it full time, it would be nice their income gets substituted through different means so they can focus on full time on issue involving Eritrea.

            Berhe

          • blink

            Dear berhe
            Yes , there is no problem for asking help from NGO or even governments ,if you wanted to be effective you have to be 100% committed to that. The problem with us is the we are too many and too few to be effective. I think fighting internal enemy is not easy by nature and especially if you are New country that was born by blood for over 30 years. We are scared to death about the unknown but rightfully so.

        • Thomas

          Hi Saay,

          The world leaders (including human right organizations) hated to see the same faces of the PFDJ. Moreover, the world community cannot stand the lies, the propaganda, arrogance, the insults of the same PFDJ agents. That is why we arre in the same situation we are. World diplomacy in the minds of PFDJ is crying fault and repeating their claim that is “the world was unfair when we were guerillas fights and not fair when we are government leaders now”. It is about the ego of these unqualified leaders and the world community who are less interested to listen the crab talk by insane and undiplomatic people. It is not about Eritrea or the Eritrean people. These people lack sophistication because they don’t seem to have any.

        • Yohannes Zerai

          Dear Saay,

          My rejoinder will limit itself to addressing point #2 of your comment above. But, first I would like to thank you for presenting a recitation of the arguments that “the other side” (i.e., – people in sympathy with government position) articulate regarding a crucial national issue. If I understood you correctly, you are implicitly asking your readership: “Here are the regime’s arguments; how would you respond to them?”

          Although it is of course easier said than done, it would be wise for the opposition to put aside (at least for a while) all the mutual blame, accusation, recrimination, etc. and carefully consider its adversary’s arguments on important issues. Apart from allowing a deeper understanding of the thinking and rationale of the pro-regime camp, such a pragmatic approach would provide the opposition with a point of departure for developing its own arguments on (and strategies for) the issues in question. To achieve this, one may:

          (i) first start with disassociating the 1950 UN-resolution on the fate of Eritrea from the country’s post-independence relations/engagements in the international arena. We have to admit that more than half-a-century after the fact, times have changed and with it national interests, priorities, objectives, strategies, etc. of ALL PARTIES have morphed or, otherwise been adjusted and transformed by design. No question, the UN decision and the politics that surrounded it are an integral part of our proud history which we will continue to uphold with honor and dignity! Also, we do affirm our full right as a people to use those political and historical facts in defense of our country’s present and future national interests at a time appropriate and when the country’s realities call for such.

          But, the 1950 UN resolution and the position that nations took on our liberation struggle should not serve as the political prism through which we view the world. Neither should we take those factors as sole determinants of our political and diplomatic roles on the world stage and of our international relations.

          (ii) As a nation we should mentally trace back on our past experiences and, as we do so, identify the mistakes we made in the past and accept responsibility for each one of them. We then must restart our journey rectifying, along the way, the effects of our past mistakes and making sure that we develop a pragmatic political/diplomatic style of interacting with the world such that we are able to protect our national interests without sacrificing our principles.

          Too often in the past, Eritrea’s regime has acted as if the world is inhabited solely by itself and its adversary of the time. It had taken hasty and unilateral action to deal with disputes often with disastrous consequences to itself. For its own good, it must learn to first bring bilateral conflicts to the attention of regional, continental and global organizations to gain their understanding of (and support for) its position on the matter. It must commit itself to the pursuit of peaceful means as the first and preferred option of resolving disputes fully knowing that it could always resort to its own devices if the first approach does not serve its interests.

          It is extremely difficult to propose possible solutions in situations where issues/problems had been allowed to snowball into severe intricacies through a long process of entanglement fueled by action-and-reaction, tit-for-tat and move-and-countermove duels between two contending parties – in this case, Eritrea and the “Permanent Three” who claim to represent the international community. But in general, the effort to find solution(s) to our external problems should begin by submitting to the time-tested wisdom of learning from one’s own mistakes. But for this approach to work, one must be willing to readily admit one’s own mistakes instead of trying to blame them on others.

          Thank you.

          • MS

            Selam Yohannes Zerai the greatista I think we mention UN resolution 390 (V) in passing, within that moment’s context. We tried to use UN to our benefits during the armed struggle (We did have a representative with observer status), we collaborated on humanitarian issues (UN-WFP of the 90s); with referendum and with the cessation of hostilities (Ethio-Eritrean War II) and the peace keepers program, etc. So, I don’t think the bad reputation of UN among Eritreans is ONLY as a result of its 1950s role. It keeps being used by the Americans for their own national interest and we are becoming the victims. I think the sanctions and hostilities UN applied on Eritrea, when juxtaposed with its failure to finalize its ruling on the border, gives it the biased and misused body it is in the eyes of mainstream Eritreans. Some may consider it was IA’s war and give a hoot about it but I believe the majority are capable of differentiating where national concerns stop and where IA’s business begins. I do understand you are among the sharp minded and goodhearted compatriots and I don’t need to lecture you on this issue.

          • Yohannes Zerai

            Dear Mahmuday,

            Your eagerness to offer encouragement and appreciation in support of people’s modest efforts is admirable, and I thank you for it.

            I agree with you on the historical record on events/periods of UN cooperation and helpful relations with Eritreans during the armed struggle and the early part of our existence as an independent country. I too had presented in one of my articles a brief review of some of the beneficial relations we had enjoyed with the UN in the post-independence years. This however does not mean that everything was hunky-dory in our relations with the UN. Far from it. Through the years, there have been decisions and actions on the part of the world body that we did not approve of or were aggrieved by. Sure, we all have our concerns, reservations and objections about such UN decisions and actions. But, it is worrying to see some groups who, in wanton neglect of all the good things that came out from the UN over the years – big and not-so-big benefits, never stop harping on the negative thereby revealing their inability to see anything good in anyone and anything but themselves!

            But returning to the level of discourse where reasonably balanced opinions (like yours) prevail, I believe we would agree on some hard facts that are out there. If the U.S. makes use of the UN to advance its own interests, (and nobody doubts that), it does so not only on issues that pertain to Eritrea, but also on those that concern other countries. Logically, therefore, if we are “victimized” by the existing UN structure and power play, so are the overwhelming majority of the countries in the world. So why should that make us feel “we are being singled out”? Would it not be wise for us to instead look elsewhere for the causes of our disappointments and frustrations in international affairs?

            We should be able to admit that, with tact and foresight on the part of the Eritrean Government, imposition of the UN sanctions could have been averted; and even after having been imposed, its duration could have been shortened. Similarly, a far more favorable outcome – if not full implementation of the Boundary Commission decision – could have been secured for the seemingly endless Eritrea-Ethiopia boundary crisis had we adopted different political and diplomatic approaches and strategies.

            Finally, let me quote an age-old, universal wisdom: “Never give another party the excuse, justification and grounds that would allow them to DENY OR VIOLATE your legal rights”! And trust me, in the case of Eritrea, this could be achieved without “selling the nation’s SOUL”!!! as some may fear will happen.

            Thank you.

          • saay7

            Selamat Yohannes:

            I actually was not trying to present “here are the regime’s arguments, how would you present to them.” I was trying to address Aman Hidrat’s main thesis: that we need to transform (change) if we want to bring about the Eritrea of our dreams. I was trying to use his thesis as a jumping off to say that the change is required from both the opposition and the government, and I hypothesized why there has been reluctance to change: because each side sees itself as a victim–the government sees itself as a victims of international conspiracy, and the opposition sees itself as a victim of governmental power abuse–and victims are not likely to change: they demand that their victimizer change instead.

            There is one qualitative difference between the two sides, though. And I don’t know how to say this politely, but I will try. There are 24 hours in a day. How much time of the 24 hours is a committed PFDJista willing to volunteer in support of their mission and how of those 24 hours is a committed opposition member willing to spend? How much money? That’s the most dramatic contrast. The rest, in my view, are all reasons people give for why they don’t want to spend more than an hour a month, more than a $1 a year towards their cause. And unless ካባይ ጀሚርካ people are willing to change that–organize and work hard (“night and day”) towards their cause– all the esoteric explanations are just excuses and people, whether they know it or not, are saying, “Yeah, things are really bad in Eritrea, but I am not willing to do what is required to change it.”

            saay

          • Yohannes Zerai

            Selam Saay,

            Thank you for the clarification which elucidated the fine points of your remarks. But the objective and overall theme of your message were already evident in your original comment. My rejoinder consciously avoided any reference to the continuing group-based internecine squabbling between the regime and the opposition. Instead, and in line with the theme of your comment, it aims to focus attention on the need for the two sides to harmonize their views in order to best meet the challenges facing the nation. In other words, it advocates that we all – both government supporters and opposition – should change our “outlooks and old ways of thinking” using the survival and well-being of the nation as a unifying factor. And this idea is advanced without putting the onus of doing so exclusively on one side or the other.

            Thank you.

    • Mez

      Dear Saay,

      Do you sense any “Kubrom the Flatter” aka replica of Lemma on the making–north of Mereb? Or how long shall we wait?

      Thanks

    • iSem

      Hi Sal:
      Welcome back!
      Well, this reminds of of the saying I heard long time ago: if you are not a leftie when you are young, you have no heart but if you are still a leftie when you are old, you have brain;-)
      But I love Alda from his stints in one of the medical shows (I think ER) when he was a top surgeon and when Alzeimers struk, he could remember his colleagues but captivated them by reciting middle-age poems and literature

      • saay7

        iSem, thanks.

        You mean M*A*S*H, not ER. MASH, a medic drama set during the Korean War, ran longer than the Korean War.

        saay

        • Selamat Saay7,

          I thought it was Vietnam. Tugushtetey to self.

          Speaking of celebrating our diversity and mutual attractions just a verse or two from a book about motion or movement:


          ….
          Break into view, nor longer hidden is
          The force that turns the furthest orb.

          …..
          …..

          So richly through his mind had Phoebus cast
          The radiance of his own divinity.
          Nearer the gods no mortal may approach.

          [ The Ode Dedicated to Newton by Edmund Halley
          Sir Isaac Newton
          PRINCIPIA

          ጻጸ (ፎይቦስ ኣፓሎ፨፨)

  • Selamat Ayya Amanuel,

    I will expound further on your scholium later. Currently looking at Euclid and the Pythagoreans’ discovery of the the irrational.
    I suspect the learned Eritrean leadership suffer greatly from commensurability. Until the buildup of the harmonic mean allow me for now to share this video link for the City of Brotherly Love Philadelphia! Home of the Liberty Bell and Champion Eagles.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4Rogd0yZ-RU

    ጻጸ

    • blink

      Dear Tsatse
      What happened Tom Brady , I heard he was looking to the Super Ads while the eagles 🦅 cracked deep inside the patriots.

  • said

    Greeting,
    Thank you AH for inspiring article.
    Under IA dictator no deference between past and present and future.

    Looking back ,When I was growing up in Eritrea in the late 1950th, there not was much in evidence, on records, on the like radio to hear the daily news , or television to see . there were older men was haloed with the sort of respect accorded and talked politics.well spoken men,my teacher was a leader and with the astonishing voice that, my former teacher thought poem and music repertory, great educator , marvelous folklore singer, a charismatic speaker, had somehow evolved into something more: he had for many people become the embodiment for Eritrea longing for freedom and a better world, a juster dispensation, he was a fighter for justice ,in short just kept rolling along, seemed to carry within it an inherent sense of truth. There was no artifice; there were no vocal tricks; nothing came between the listener and the audience . It commanded effortless attention; perfectly focused, it came from a very deep voice and place, not just in the words , but in the experience of what it is to be human. Local singers in local dialectic, they expressed, the spirituals awaking had been instrumental in discovering for a wider audience were not simply communal songs of spiritual , love and life and death but more importantly the urgent cries of a of freedom and liberty ,the colonized people of Eritrean people yearning for freedom a better, a democratic and juster life. These songs, rooted in the past, expressed a present reality in the lives of twentieth-century Eritrean people, citizens of the most weak nation on earth but subjected ,to endless suffering, oppressed and routinely humiliated on a daily basis by their government . sang it had nothing to do with consolation or comfort: it was an urgent demand ,the singer was deeply admired for it. For us as young , they were was the noble representative, the beau idéal, of their people : they were young ,fit physically magnificent, finely spoken, fiercely intelligent, charismatic but not at all threatening ,more of a moral force . bent on overthrowing colonial rule . sense of the coming battle to be fought .He was the man of the future; He had to endorse what he felt was essentially the same fight he was fighting, the fight for human dignity and freedom of Eritrea . Eritrea was going to change or it seemed for a brief moment.
    for the first time in his late life, he walked in street of Asmara in full human dignity. You cannot imagine what that meant to him as freeman ,” and sees with his own eyes why my x teacher might have felt that way , in Asmara of 1993, he was in his promised land Eritrea .it did not last long,
    He puresued’s his dream and commitment to that elusive idea of free Eritrea . for former teacher , it is clear, he knew that his dream was just that: that the reality was otherwise upside down . But he had to maintain his strong faith and commitment for his people ,it was never about him , otherwise what else was there?
    the expectation that he would somehow find a solution and path through all these realty and dream contradictions, Eritrean nightmarish he found themselves in. after all this he felt unworthy. is the tragedy of his life. And it is a tragedy for us as Eritrean .he just one of many. He has no alternative. it is a pitifully sad ,a spectacle: this heroic figure teacher , striving for dignity for all of his fellow Eritrean, as a human beings, was robbed of his own dignity , somehow baffled and cheated by very Eritrean he was fighting for. He felt a profound void from which we as Eritrean were yet to recover. We did not feel ourselves free yet ; we did not feel capable of making true history. History, former wise teacher says, has become truly meaningless to be ruled nuso IA Dictatorships . he knew sometimes, manage to affect the course of history. Time did then had any enduring value or effect ,It’s a mysterious process, he immediate influence was small and limited. He was creative political thought seems to thrive, like wildflower seeds planted in dry dissert of Dankalia.
    He felt endorsement of IA was unworthy of Eritrean people. EPLF refusal to acknowledge what had been done in it’s name, is the tragedy of his life. And it is a tragedy for us
    The dream was almost immediately shattered after Eritrean independence . Eritrea are very Disgusted with Eritrean regime ’s failure to address human rights and democratic freedom. Asmara regime determined to make it clear that nothing had changed. After a murderous attack on disabled and handicap x fighter were treated with brutality .sadly more denunciations from EPLF leadership —not least from their former fighters comrades-in-arms . Despite mounting evidence of the Menka group elimination, the lesson was clear, the meet with their end with unspeakable brutality and contempt were the norm. when patriotism seemed to demand loyalty to EPLF under IA leadership, EPLF reluctant to confront the flaws of IA,No deference between past and present and future ,the brutal suppression continued till today nothing have changed. Sadly so many supporters stubbornly maintained their unqualified admiration of IA dictator.

  • MS

    Selam Emma
    Thank you for the article. As usual, i found it to be educational and thought-provoking. For now I want you to elaborate on the following, if you may:)
    1. “[…]..That unwarranted accolade he received within the organization make him the only leader capable to lead EPLF organization.” [A] Emma Wedi Aboy Hidrat
    “The Eritrean people especially the Highlanders started to worship him as deified mortal – a mortal hero worth of worship.”[C] Emma

    The role of IA vis-a-vis EPLF
    A/ do you really believe EPLF tegadelti, and its mass followers believed “only leader capable to lead EPLF organization[?]”
    A follow-up question: what do you think would happen to the EPLF if IA died in 1985?
    B/ What is the difference between worshiping someone as a god, and the acts of admiration and respect that are bestowed upon someone based on their skills, charisma, energy, zeal… general qualities that make someone stand out as a leader?
    A follow-up reminder: IA had already climbed the rugs to the higher echelon in the ELF, i.e., before founding the EPLF. The reason why the opposition has not gained its bearing is that it could not produce someone who could galvanize Eritreans. Movements/revolutions need leaders who could rally followers to a cause.
    C/ Do you really believe our Kebessa compatriots followed Isaayas because they thought he was their god? Why do you think they thought he was worth worshiping? How about the Muslim population?
    I think you are inadvertently insulting Eritreans who rallied under the leadership of the EPLF irrespective of their religion and region.
    ——————————–
    PFDJ: System or not system
    What difference does it make? If you have a magic wand, just use it and let Eritreans write the next chapter.
    If you insist, though, PFDJ is the government, and by definition governments are systems. When people reduce PFDJ to IA, they mean the organization does not exist on its own ideological life, does not function based on set of rules and regulations that govern members and components of the system including IA himself, does not have a functioning constitution; its structure expands and contracts without convention and deliberations; it is ruled by circulars and memos; it does not have functioning executive and legislative body; it has not had a convention since its founding one, in 1994, etc. The majority of its members are cardholders due to necessity of life and security….
    So, no one said that there is no system. What has been argued is that PFDJ is not a self-sustaining organization based on sets of ideological principles. Anyway, both the executive and legislative bodies that “elected” IA do not exist. Out of the legal bodies, only the chair man exists as a whole entity. So, legally, PFDJ does not exist. IA and his newly refurbished executive structure is leading the country. That makes it IA’s institution that has no legal basis.
    Wo deHanka.

  • Yohannes Zerai

    Dear Ammanuel,

    Thank you for an interesting article that raises some grave issues (practical as well as conceptual)l related both to the political power that presently controls Eritrea and to the popular movement for democratic change that is struggling to remove it. I have also taken note of the two relevant questions posed in the concluding paragraph of your article.

    For now, I would like to comment briefly on a practical issues that your article touched upon: I have so far been of the opinion that the question of whether the Eritrean opposition movement’s real enemy is a political system or just a ruthless dictator had been laid to rest a while go. But I now feel that it is perhaps not so, for you would otherwise not have raised it in your article. So, let me add my modest opinion to the abundant set of ideas and arguments on the issue that a great many, and more knowledgeable people had offered in the past.

    You pointed out that the PFDJ government has molded the ‘national army’ and ‘national security apparatus’ into forces that have thrown their loyalty – at least thus far – behind the regime and its strongmen. We all know that the party and the bureaucracy (organized into line ministries) serve as agents of the functions of the state. An article I posted here at Awate nearly a year ago had outlined the formal and informal financial/economic structures that sustain the regime and support its policies, functions and activities — structures that operate not only domestically inside the country, but also internationally throughout the world. These and other “organs” of the regime are in themselves full-fledged systems structured, governed and controlled in accordance with the regime’s philosophy/principles and overall goals. Operation wise, however, each system relies on a unique combination of mission, strategy and procedures prescribed for it by PIA and Co.

    It goes without saying that a regime or political order which encompasses a collection of such varied systems is itself a complex political system. The PFDJ government may not conform to conventional or familiar systems in terms of its composition, structure and operations; it sure lacks constitutional legality and does not submit to the rule of law. But it is a system nevertheless! In fact, the answer to the question: “Is the PFDJ government a system or a so-called ‘one-man organization’?” is so obvious as to render the question redundant, if not outright moronic. People who ask the question or argue the PFDJ regime is a “one-man organization” cannot be serious or, as you correctly pointed out, must be trying to divert the focus and effort of the forces of change by obfuscating the real issue.

    Thank you.

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Dear Yohannes,

      Thank you for the in puts to the discussion. Yes, I remember your article ” A Mafia group masquerading as lawful government” dated Feb 13, 2017. While yours was on the national economy side, exposing the formal and informal of a party-state controlled PFDJ economy, mine is on our political flaws how we define governments and their institutions as a system, whether we support them or not. Because we don’t have common understanding as to the nature of the Eritrean government, we have a variant approach in our struggle, one of our reality that made us un organized and inefficient in what we are trying to do. I also touched how the current government became the kind of government it is now with a little historical background they way the despot is groomed by his colleagues way back in the struggle. That in turn created new individualistic Eritrean mind that affected us to make collective struggle – a new phenomenon in the Eritrean politics.

      Yohannes, if you don’t mind, I would like your acute mind your to tackle the questions I posed at the end of my article. I am afraid either from lack of confidence or fear, people want to shy away from the questions that help us to build trust within our society. Could it be the reason why Ismail AA felt that “we are pretty far from tackling” them. I believe, dealing with such questions will make us how different we are from the regime of Asmara in addressing the concern of our society. By the way, I have opened a file for all your articles, for I found them very important and good for references.

      Regards,
      Amanuel Hidrat

      • Yohannes Zerai

        Dear Amanuel,

        I just saw your rejoinder that invited me to address the pair of questions with which you concluded your article, and I thank you for it. The questions relate to issues of concern to all those who strive to influence Eritrea’s political future. But they certainly do not appear to be easy questions to answer. Nevertheless, I will (later in the day) take a crack at addressing them not by way of providing an answer per se, as by expressing my opinion on the issues they are meant to probe. In doing so, my input will not take a conceptual/philosophical angle, but will simply be based on factual observations regarding Eritrea’s current realities.

        Thank you

  • saay7

    Emma:

    I hope to get around to tackling some of the fine points you made, but for now:

    Coincidentally, Saleh Younis, in his latest column AlNahda wrote, Eritreans choose hope over fear and love over hate. One hopes his premises to hold true. He talked about hopes with an enveloping moral culture on the clashes of social vision in the Eritrean politics – the Eritrean people against the government’s socio-cultural policy.

    I would like to meet this Saleh Younis dude; he sounds interesting. Seriously, I don’t remember saying this in my column: can you help?

    saay

    • Nitricc

      Hey SAAY; i am trying to follow this highly enjoyable debate between Aman-H and Kiflom to no avail. Do you mean Kbrom? Just curious.

      • blink

        Dear Nitricc
        What do You call the Hallucast deniers Or These who praise Hitler ?

      • saay7

        Nitricc, yeah I mean Kbrom.

        ድጉሽተተይ!

        Saay

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Methaba Abu Salah (Saay),

      Saleh Younis wrote “Eritreans chose hope over fear and love over hate.” I think we agree on this statement that it was the title of your article. The rest of the paragraph are my comments on the general message of your article and while myself hoping the title of your article will hold true. May be the way I put is confusing.

      Regards

      • saay7

        Selamat Emma:

        I believe you; I just don’t remember it — which is not unusual. I was telling a friend that I once wrote a review of the Eritrean movie “ፈቲሐ ዶ ክመርዓወኪ” (should I divorce you and remarry you) and when I was asked to prove it, I couldn’t and I dismissed it as one of those things I wrote and saved in my computer.

        Saay

    • Hope

      Selamat Cousin,Prof Dr Salih Younis:
      Welcome back.

      I think Ustaz Aman Hidrat is right that u wrote an Article with that Title,which u can easily retrieve from the Archieves.

      Even though Ato Aman might sound sarcastic in his wording,he is complimenting U and u should have appreciated him back.

      In fact,your Article was,as usual,beautifully crafted and articulated,which have boosted the HOPE and the MORALE of most of us here.

      BTW,are you half way on your book that you promised us to write?

      At least the compilation of what you have been writing since 1995 -since the Dehai and VisAfric days,should be filed as a serious DOCUMENT as part of Eritrean History and in The “Who is Sho Register”!

      If u edit and compile those precious and educational Articles and add final recommendations to the Conflict Resolutions to our Horn Mess, I bet you could win the Heart of the Silent Horn Majority…..specially if u focus on ” Reconciliation,Conflict Resolution and Economic Integration”!

      Without any bias,exaggeration and prejudice,you,indeed,have proven to us to be more than a Political Scientist,Economist,Sociologist , a Great Debator and a Uniquely Articulate Writer!

      The Title I gave U as “Prof Doctor Salih A.A. Younis “,was not just an Hononary Title but something U have earned and DESERVE!

      PS:
      Take this as a genuine Reconciliatory Gesture!

      Please extend this gesture to his Excellency,Ato Salih Gadi Johar.

      Ahlen Bika Ya Ustaz Wo Mu’Alem Kebir,Salih Gadi Johar:

      My Sincere Apologies,Mr Salih Gadi Johar ,if I offended you due to my Poor Communications Skills.

      Welcome back again Professor Dr. Salih A A Younis!

      Cheers!
      Best Regards.
      Your old-new Cousin,Hope.

  • Kokhob Selam

    Thank you Amuni,

    “Issayas had cultivated and elevated in to a power, way back during the Ghedli era, in which he forged an organization in his “image” and his “political philosophy”, that gave him the perception within the organization as the “great achiever” and someonee who has proven his ability more than any member of the organization. That unwarranted accolade he received within the organization make him the only leader capable to lead EPLF organization. ”

    KS,,

    • Josef Says

      Selam…
      You also have to take into consideration that they were facing a common enemy who was 10x stronger. The question is would Issias have been as successful if the war last 5 years? Since it was 30 years in way- whether he was bad leader and people noticed.. if they had changed him the movement would look bad.
      UNITA had members who wanted to replace Jonas Savimbi but over 15+ years he become the symbol.. You can say same thing about Arafat..
      You have to wonder how the nature of movement contributed to him staying in power beside his own social intelligence. If rebel movement keeps changing its leadership.. people would lose faith. It is not like civil society.

      I personally don’t think he is that intelligent or shrewd or how some Eritrean make him look… some supernatural bogeyman.. I think their something in Eritrean psyche that needs him to be this super-natural force..

      I am sure people were probably saying same thing about Saleh in Yemen …

      • Kokhob Selam

        Dear Josef,

        “I am sure people were probably saying same thing about Saleh in Yemen …” No !! that was different ,,,The writer of this article and me were not supporting this ugly man up today..

        I got what you are saying but not everybody was after his victory..PIA was the master of the front EPLF and he burned his own supporters… Now you can see we the people not for revenge of the supporter…

        KS,,

        • Josef Says

          Selam,
          I don’t understand part of your response.
          I believe he contributes to current eritrean situation.. but I think Eritrea’s challenges and issues are much deeper than PIA.

          Mr. PIA is not in America but what is condition of Eritrean community in America? Is it a dynamic community? Is it a healthy community? How many effective community center do we have?

          I think just too much emphasis or focus is given to him.. but if a drone takes him out tomorrow.. there will probably be another person to take his position..

          We should approach look at Eritrean condition and situation as though PIA doesn’t exist and then see what we can do as community…

          • Hope

            Selam Josef:
            Your ” naive” arguement makes lots of sense but as you said,we should dig deeper as well as to why the Diaspora is disorganized and dismantled!

            I tried to give you a hint last time how the PFDJ Security Apparatus and Network has been working deep and in a way stronger and in a more sophisticated ways to keep the Diaspora Communities and Opposition Groups “Dismantles and DISORGANIZED”!

            I am an Eye Witness Account about this.
            It is way beyond your good wishes and intentions.

          • Josef Says

            hello Hope-less:
            I don’t think I am naive with regards to role PDJF has played in Eritrean community in diaspora.
            I actually studied and observed it.
            Yes- is there is tango dance between the PDJF and opposition group.
            I actually call it the Gedhli Tango.

            You just have to give them some cookies and focus on building community.

            The reality is most of Gedhli generation folks are dying and not many in diaspora take them seriously. The community and organization is for future generations..

            So, if you make a proposal and show concrete skills the community will start listening to you.
            If you are conducting yourself or reacting to world thru lense and experiences of Gedhli generation you are living in the past and your methods and tactics are also from past..

            It is in building a strong organization in diaspora that we can set an example for Eritreans in Eritrea and that is kind of hope and example that will start change there.. but if in democratic and wealth society like united states with access to tools and education we are saying we can’t build a strong diaspora community because of some of semi-illiterate “old goats”… What does that say about us?

  • Ismail AA

    Selam Aman H. and all,

    This article unmistakably manifests typical Amanuel Hidrat style of focusing more on conceptualization and contextualization of ideas and notions rather than tedious details. This contribution has not deviated from what I observed and learned from his writings over the years. It is rich in concepts and notions, which challenge an inquisitive mind to go and look further than what the purpose and intent of the author hints within the parameters of this forum. I can mention concepts like Eritrean spirit of individualism and collectivism as examples, which call for serious reflection to understand them within the diverse and disparate cultural and social set up of the country.

    Thinking about the three terms of the title [perception, values and mind(s)] and finding applicable context for them in the span of Eritrea’s post-colonial experience is a hard bargain in its own right. In my opinion, the national liberation and the statehood phases of our nation’s struggle had presupposed parallel national tasks. One that had imposed urgency of riding the country of occupation, and the other, stirring the nation towards laying down safe and unifying foundations suitable for nourishing common national perceptions and values without forfeiting the rich aspects of cultures, customs, traditions and spiritual life of the constituent communities of the country possess. Getting these matters in order is the groundwork that prepares the process for changing mindsets of citizens outside the framework of their cultural and social peculiarities. But, taking stock of our nation’s experience exposes failures and shortcomings in discharging of the point I am trying to make here. The nation’s journey was hamstrung by internecine strives during the revolutionary phase, and distortion and betrayal in the next phase.

    Understanding those failures would be futile without reviewing the social, economic and political milieu of our country throughout its post-colonial experience. The conditions that prevailed then and now could not make space for emergence of coherent segments of the elite, which should have produced the kind of leaderships that could have been competent and patriotic enough to correct ominous deviations that led us to where we are today, and for which the liberation era generations are blamed by the youth.

    It was such gab and failure that left the people with not choice but submit to ambition and egoism driven individuals that lacked foothold in elitist political culture that could have provided room for skepticism and competition. This had opened the path to those who acceded to leadership positions to take risks and self-deploy depending to personal acumen, machination and cynical subterfuges within deceptive championing of cultural and religious concerns sensitivities peculiarities of our communities could easily succumb to. In my view, Isayas Afeworki could not be other that a product of those circumstances. Indeed, I think this does partly answer the question Amanuel had raised about how leaders in Eritrea perceive themselves. They cannot go outside the shell of considering their positions as single handedly attained mission to which they had risked and committed themselves from the very beginning. Actually it may not be an outlandish view to argue that Isayas, in his mind, believes that the position he has is product of his personal achievement that helped him to prevail over his adversaries and opponents through the years and decades. Remember that he had to physically liquidate his close friends and school mates.

    Now, thus, to slide back to the issues Amanuel’s discussion, the individualistic and egoistic characterization of leadership qualities and competencies he had aptly surveyed fits the Eritrean social and political scene. The despot at the helm of the Eritrea’s affairs and his security-military personnel did not emerge from meaningful elitist political culture, and their craft and behavioral propensities could only prepare them to perfect competences to engage not in building civilian institutions of state, but rather building state organs of surveillance and control. These are the scourges that have been sustaining the regime and wreaking havoc to social and cultural milieu of the country. The role an option of the citizen (individual) in such state of conditions is submission or banishment, which has been depleting the nation of its youth and members of the society that could have composed valuable socio-economic nuclei as bedrock of elites.

    Thus, to conclude these few paragraphs, my feeling to the two questions offered to stimulate discussion and reflection is that we are pretty far from tackling either of the two matters. The formidable hurdles is, in my opinion, the experience that encompass the two phases of our national existence I have mentioned earlier has still been throwing its shadow. The society has not got chance to nourish political and social culture that could open space for emergence of elites.

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Ismailo,

      Though I tried to share my modest in put on the issue at hand, my primary intention was to provoke the best Eritrean mind like yourself to tackle the issue boldly head on to find a “common bridge” that all we can pass through to our promised land and find the “Eritrean mirror” that all of us we can see our images, that was and is a dream of my life.

      Regards

      • Ismail AA

        Selam Aman H.

        I have no doubt in my mind that you have invested much time to produce such a well-thought article that excellently generated crucial questions that preoccupy all of us all the time and under any circumstances. Sure united, peaceful and progressive Eritrea is life long dream of all of us on which had cost multitudes of generation of Eritreans devotion of most productive years of their life, and as much resources and energies as they could muster to find a suitable way that can lead us towards that “common bridge”. This is actually the essence and content of national unity that has been eluding us for so long. This predicament shall continue until all of us would come out from the deep national solidarity ruining trenches to no the man’s land. This will take realization by the people (elites especially) that Eritrea can only survive and prosper for all of us but not part of us. It has to emerge to become a homeland, which every loyal citizen could proudly call mine. But, as your thoughts and questions have articulated, we have already lost too much time. The sooner, the better we get sober and tackle genuinely the questions you have raised. I am sure, many serious participants in this forum are taking their time to read and re-read the crucial points you have raised.

  • Nitricc

    Hi Aman: good read. At the end of the day, it is about the system. And a system is set by the people and the people’s intention and motivation in setting up the very system matters. for instance, every African country uses the presidential system except the tiny Mauritius but why is it a big country like Ethiopia using the primary system. Like I have said, there is no other country, why?

    • blink

      Dear Nitricc
      Mr. Amanuel said “The Eritrean people especially the Highlanders started to worship him as deified mortal – a mortal hero worth of worship. ” This guy is blaming the highlanders out of the sky as if he knows what the people of Afabet or Nakfa thought about the man in the early independence time , this guy can’t see beyond his Meles ideas filled head. Issaias carried a great amount of support from most Eritreans , yet here we have the student of Ethnic politics of Meles trying to put an image of EPLF update of PFDJ. What he forgot is People change their politics like fashion, what he forgot is EPLF was a military organization that set itself inside the Eritreans walk of life. While he and his friends were advancing their private life in the west EPLF was digging trenches for its survival helped by the heroic people of Nakfa and around. Here we have a guy that has nothing to lose advocating for military collusion between brothers telling us diversity that and that . PFDJ is a one man show because it has nothing to show to be any system or any principles. I suspect the picture especially the candle or light looks MELES visionary talking points. The sad thing from this is , for such people to be the picture of opposition. After so many articles and even traveling to awasa , boom here we are again.

      • Kokhob Selam

        Dear blink,

        Just some time..Really …..

        KS,,

        • blink

          Dear K.S
          That’s how I feel.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Thank you blink.

            Thank you for your honesty ,,you are much honest and you will say what you feel..Not all politicians do the way you do ..Frankly talking you must be dreaming..

            Politics is the game, only the people with more mind can play it..

            KS,,

          • blink

            Dear K.S
            If you think this forum was and is for politics you are deadly wrong, of course our politics is not fitt to be defined like any other. I can’t dream and write at the same time, but I guess you can do that. In order to protect the Meles activist you need to play like Meles. Your friend is ethnic politics guru and he has been such and failed , he will spend his time in the west talking about Highlanders accusing them of many things , that’s what he do nothing more . He has been writing his Meles visionary leadership and vision yet he can be only be that. I personally don’t like his views and I will never be. Let him go live in Mekele .

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear blink,

            “I personally don’t like his views and I will never be. Let him go live in Mekele .” sounds, like you are having full authority.

            KS,,,

          • blink

            Dear KS
            Just over my views, that is all.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear blink,

            “Just over my views, that is all.”

            Is that ?

            KS,,

          • blink

            Dear KS
            What else can I control?

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear blink.

            There is only one man you should take control..(The self ) you can’t control any single person only you can think of yourself..Take care of your own mind then you can see others too..

            KS,,

          • blink

            Dear KS
            The quotes you mentioned are ,The word of greats borrowed by Meles activist nothing new to advance his ethnic politics nothing new , the good thing is people like him could not move the majority of Eritreans in to their own vision of Ethnic politics.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear blink,

            We all will have to think about what system will serve us better in due time..Not today.. in perfect time..What do you say? Don’t you think so?

            One thing about that great man is he had done so, in due time and to be honest he has done the impossible. With that different Ethnic groups and bringing together all and let the people untied toward the aim is the duty visionary leader… .

            KS,,

          • Hope

            Selam Kokhebay:
            Welcome back Bro!
            Hope you regained your full health back.
            Can u also read back to Ustaz Amanuel Hidrat what you quoted for Blink?
            We are all entitled to our opinions and beliefs /views.
            What we have to learn more is to respect each other and our respective opinions and views…,a difficult home in the Eritrean Socio-Political Culture.
            Blink has a right to express his opinion about any one and anything except that he should not cross the line to enforce his opinion or to tell people what they have to say and in what they have to believe in.
            The same applies to Ato Aman Hidrat and to you as well…..to all of us.
            I am one of the most ” DEMONIZED and the most INSULTED person in this forum due to my opinion despite that I NEVER enforce my opinion on others or demonized others except challenging and refuting few opinion of other -with facts though!

            I stand corrected if am wrong but that is at least what I believe and feel.

            FYI:
            Am including myself..,

            It took me more 21 years to learn the over all American Culture in general and to learn better Communication Skills with the Americans and at Professional Environment level.

            It has been HARD for me to say:
            ” I am sorry”
            ” I apologize ”
            ” Thank U”
            ” Will do ”
            When I was not at fault and I get punished or fired for being ” Defensive”!

            I sometimes forget that am an African with strong accent.
            Worse,I challenge my Co-workers and my Bosses since I believe that I am right and am doing the right thing,which is true most of the time.
            But that is NOT the way it works here -at least in the USA .

            You don’t challenge your coworkers and Bosses even if you are 100% correct.

            U have to act as if u r at fault and move on by saying:” I apologize and Thank You for your feedback and support and will do better and it won’t happen again”!

            We Eritreans-mostly,have such a character like mine,an earned and inherited SELF-CONFIDENCE and SELF-ESTEEM along with BRUTAL HONESTY AND INDEPENDENCE”.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Hope,

            Most of the time I was behaving as if I am not making any mistake like most of Eritreans do. And thank you for the advice..

            Thank you for your kindness now I have gained full health. It was very critical moment I went through. I was almost going to die really. Now almost every fellow friend and relative are wondering how I came back to normal once and for all ..

            KS,,

          • Thomas

            Kokhob Selam,

            You are a fresh breath here. Life without you around here would not have been fun. I am very happy to hear that you won over and sure once hero is always a hero.

          • blink

            Dear Hope
            what KS is saying is that ,you must kneel down to planned idea of Mr.Amanuel that is what he is saying unless there is no way or what so ever any one needs a lecture about Meles activist to scrap his own . In this old preoccupied game these people wanted to you to kneel down , the system they use is ,we have been there we know this and that, that is all they have. They never asked their 40 year opinionated head * what went wrong ” , Think again Mr. Amanuel has been in this circle for his age , can you imagine this man to be changed and born again ? He will not , he will go on to tell us he know Dr.xyz who sit with meles , can guess the problem listening to such guy and yet he went on hunting to accuse EPLF in order to reach to the dictator at home. I am sure he has never been to Afabet and asked how these people think . KS wanted any one to buy to his preferred old rotten political game stock , what he failed to see is that , no one will buy such heinous political game drafted by Meles lovers , .Trust me these guys are the reason we could not topple the maniac at home .

          • Thomas

            Hi Hope,

            As the supporter of the mafias regime, you have annoyed me here day in and out. For the first time, I am smiling after I read part of the above comment of yours that says:

            “It has been HARD for me to say:
            ” I am sorry”
            ” I apologize ”
            ” Thank U”
            ” Will do ”
            When I was not at fault and I get punished or fired for being ” Defensive”!”

            So, even the American’s are not at ease with you, poor hope/tesfom:) I feel their pain for you have been very difficult person to deal with:)

    • Amanuel

      Hi Nitricc
      I don’t see the relevance of Ethiopia here.
      The main message of AH is that
      1) The role of leaders in an organisation
      2) PFDJ is an organssstion with institutions not a one man band organisation ( as there are others in this forum believe to the counterary).
      In the end he also asked two important questions.

      • chefena

        Selam Amanuel
        That is the gist of AH’s message as far as my reading goes. No mention of Meles Zenawi and his ethnic politics, or anything to that effect is made here. I would also suggest that this article be read as contribution to helpus shade light on the old endless debate whether the PFDJ is a system. And in so doing, he went on to provided us with useful concepts that we can objectively relate to. I thank AH for the efforts he put into the writing of this article. As for the other two fundamental questions he left us with, and the central issue of ‘system’, I would rather defer my indulgence to explain why I think the way I do, but I must say I belong to those who believe that the PFDJ is a system.
        Regards

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Dr. Chefena,

          I am glad that we are in the page on the issue, I have raised. Doctore, as social scientist, I would like you your input on the Questions I posed to my readers to educate us on the fundamental flaws of our socio-political milieu of our society in general, and the peculiar driving forces at play.

          Regards
          Amanuel Hidrat

          • chefena

            Selam Haw Amanuel and All

            ‘Do we celebrate our diversity as a force of our common identity?’

            I find it helpful to contextualize our discussion in accordance to levels of analysis. By that I mean trying to specify the contexts of interactions we are operating in. Given that we now are growing more and more part of the global system while the PFDJ party-state has grown more and more insular, specifying the social, physical and cultural position we are speaking from and about matters. War and repression induced migration have taken their tolls and as they continue to shaping the kind of diversity that we believe is being celebrated at one level in the present global system. But we may find ourselves to be at variance with what we perceive it to be or what actually is. If we go further into refocusing and determining the levels of or scales or socio-cultural context in question we would have to specify our units of analysis in terms of local vs global, elite vs masses, macro-structural vs grassroots levels etc. I would go on parsing the local into two: the diasporic local, i.e. our present abode vs the local proper in our home county Eritrean. For all intents and purposes, our discourse on the issues at hand are deterritorialized, meaning ‘cut off from the of social, political, or cultural practices from their native places and population’.
            As I may have mentioned elsewhere, I give high importance the local, the experienced, the micro and the interactional levels, in so far as they are truer reflections of reality. If I now present you with two narratives, one experienced another which is narrated stuff and publicly available, you can do the theorizing and go one step further into deeper analysis to look for answers if ‘we celebrate our diversity as a force of our common identity’ a question AH confronted us with.
            I will first relate about my own experienced narrative briefly. This took place when we were travelling on a bus to London for the 10th of November 2017 London demonstration. One young male raises a provoking question “how long are we going to meet only when reasons for demonstration arise such as this one?”. Indeed it was provoking enough considering, after a period of growing mutual indifference, the Akria re-energized the need for solidarity in the face of all out and widespread repression crippling the society at large.
            The length of the travel offered an opportunity for these group of young people to openly express their take on the issues of unity or disunity. Certainly, it is non-trivial matter as it becomes evident by the day that the vigour of unity or its lack, thereof, becomes crucial in either helping shorten or unduly prolong the life of the tyranny. Whether or not more could have and should have been done to bridge the existing gap is a matter that I will defer for now. However, the bottom line of the informal discussion was the awareness that unity is an indispensable condition towards removing the tyranny. That is what is known as pragmatism, which is fine at this level.
            We were 43 people in the bus with predominantly Muslim, young males. (please don’t ask why) as I have made it clear that narrative as methods is what I consider useful tool for this purpose, while I acknowledge the merits of statistics in explaining relationships between social phenomena. During the entire ten hours or so we were in the bus, three language- Arabic, Tigre and Tigrinya were used for every announcement. Similarly, the variety of the music played reflected the same. I could see some young people struggled to speak Tigrinya, which could get one speculate that they were born not in Eritrea but elsewhere.

            Between the village and the global Eritrea

            Now, I will take you back to the local proper via this video link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VTpKpIUcZM. It is about a pilgrimage to a Kudus Yohaness ( Geez new Yeas celebration on 11th of Sep 2017) in one of the remotest areas in Southern Eritrean. You may do fast forward to the 24th minute and watch the last three minutes only and listen to make at your own personal analysis and conclusions.
            It might interest some of you for its exotic and rustic beauty of our diversity. Other may dismiss it as an EriTV material, as my friend JA, says ‘this doesn’t give a full picture our diversity because a mosque is missing , also no depiction of reciprocal gesture of inter-faith co-operation is’. Irrespective, I attach some value to this EriTV material, ሓጂ ዓብዱ ኣይብ and ሱልጣን ዓብደርሒም who figure prominently in this video after 6 minutes appear to be sincere interviewees, unless one is able to persuade me that this is choreographed, hence they don’t mean what they say. For JA everting should be divided into two equal parts for it to show equity and the beauty of our diversity. My answer would be, ‘but the social world is not symmetrical’. Even in architecture symmetry can sometimes be dull and a slight distortion adds some aesthetic effects. I believe in equity but not in the senses and purpose both elites and counter-elite ( aspiring elites on both sides of the aisle) would like to present it. But, about hope, ‘as a weapon against despair to bend realities towards the expectation of the Eritrean people’, I think the future doesn’t appear to be as bleak.
            Regards

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear Dr Chefena,

            Thank you for tackling the question. Very educative that goes in to the atomic structure of our society trying to give us basic knowledge about our people and its culture. In the clip, though I don’t see any problem the way it is presented as history, it also reminds us how our society is sensitive, reading how your friend JA reacted on the clip. Then the questions I posed are very crucial in addressing the sensitivity of our society, as to whether we are ready to address them honestly. Otherwise, they will continue as grievances. The more we wait to address them the more the mistrust deepened, the more it deepened, the more it complicate the society contradiction. Again Doctor, thank you for giving us a class.

            regards

      • Nitricc

        HI Amanuel; Why don’t you answer the question rather than going side ways. I asked you why Ethiopia is the only country in prime mister system? instead of tackling my question you resorted to the usual PFDJ this PFDJ that. Don’t you people get tried? Now Answer the freaking question, will you?

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Nitrickay,

          First you didn’t ask me this question in your first comment above. Second ask Ethiopians as to why they chose premiership than predisidential? But let me ask you back this: why India, Great Britain, Israel, Canada……etc Chose premiership than presidential? These are chioces of individual countries and I have never asked as to why? So if you are interested on it make research to find it yourself. I am not interested as to why countries chose one over the other.

        • Berhe Y

          Hi Nitricc,

          In it’s basic forum, the president system has a fixed term while the prime minister can be toppled by the opposition parties (before the scheduled election) if the parliament loses confidence.

          Why Africa has mostly president and not prime minister…I think may be none of the leaders want to be toppled..

          Berhe

  • Kokhob Selam

    Sir Amanu,

    what an article man!!! follow me see bellow …

    …..ወይ ሰብ;-….

    ሕጊ ባህርይ ኮይኑ:-
    ገለን ይነብር ብዕርቃኑ;-
    ገለን ብዙሕ ተኸዲኑ:-
    ገለን ይጥዕሞ ሰሲኑ:-
    ገለን ይነብር ሓዚኑ:-
    ኩሎም ገዳ ይኣርጉ ቁንቁኑ:-
    ከም’ዛ ዘይነበሩ ሓመድ ይክደኑ::

    እንታይ ኮን’ዩ ‘ቲ ሚስጥር-
    እናበልካ ትሓትት ተመራመር:-
    ሕቶኻ ከይተመለሰ ትነብር:-
    ስራሕካ ከይወዳ እካ ትቅበር ::

    ኣየ ንሕና !!!
    እቲ መጽሓፍ እንከሎ ኣብ ውሽጥና ;-
    ኣብ ደገ ንደልዮ ርሑቅ እናጠመትና:-
    እቲ ፕሮግራም ረቢ ዝሃነጸልና:-
    እቲ ዘድሊ ልቦና መዛኒ ሕልና:-
    በታ ዓቅምና በታ ዘላትና :-
    ሰባት ከይበደልና ክብርታት ሓሊና;-
    መዓልቲ ምስ ኣኸለ ምኻድ ተፈቲና::

    ምበር:-
    ድኽነት ኣይነብር ሓላፋይ:-
    ሃፍቲ ኣይነብር ጠፋኣይ:-
    ስልጣን ናይ ፈጣሪ ተመላሳይ:-
    እንተጸንሐ ‘ውን ኣይቅበርን ምሳይ:-
    ምክብባር እዩ ጽቡቅ ናብ ገነት መራሓይ:-

    ንምዃኑ:-
    ሃብቲ ምስ ድኽነት:-
    ስልጣን ይኹን ዕብየት:-
    ሩግዲ ይኹን ቅጥነት:-
    ሕጽሪ ይኹን ቁመት:-
    ኣለዎ እዩ ምኽንያታት:-
    ዝገዝኦ ሕግታት::

    እቲ ስልጣን እንተደይብካዮ:-
    ፈጣሪ እዩ ወሲኑ ኣይትረስዓዮ::

    እቲ ገንዘብ እንተ ኣኪብካዮ:-
    ፈጣሪ እዩ ሂብካ እንተር ኢኻዮ:-

    ኮታ እቲ ሕቶ ከምይ ረኺብካዮ:-
    እንታይ ይመሰል መግድኻ ዝተጎ ዓዝካዮ::

    እወ:-
    እቲ ሰርቅካ ትእክቦ ገንዘብ;-
    ምመጸካ ብስርዓት ብኣደብ:-

    ጽሕፍቶ እዩ ክትረኽቦ :-
    እቲ ሕቶ ዝተጠቀምካሉ መዳይቦ::

    ኮኾብ ሰላም

  • Thomas

    Hi Amma,

    Great article, very educational. Unity with diversity, NO to the deceptive “hade libi hade hzbi” killer theme. We must reject the “Hade libi” and its truth meaning is the PFDJ “libi” way or the highway:)