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PFDJ Troll Alliance: Facebook Removes Saudi-UAE-Egypt Accounts

August 1, 2019, Facebook announced it was “Removing Coordinated Inauthentic Behavior in UAE, Egypt and Saudi Arabia” However, the news is no surprise to us since in March 27, 2018, Gedab, our news unit, has reported about the “Saudi, UAE, and Eritrean Internet Trolling Cooperation” with Eritrea. Gedab News was the first outlet to expose such cooperation.

It’s worth remembering that in the above mentioned Gedab News report, A Sudanese researcher stated that, the UAE was spreading its wings “beyond its size, and is ambitiously engaged in high stake games that will soon backfire.”

Not surprisingly, It did backfire, yesterday.

Yesterday, Facebook announced it has already removed hundreds of Facebook accounts, pages, groups, and events “for engaging in coordinated inauthentic behavior that originated in the UAE and Egypt and focused on a number of countries, primarily in the Middle East.”

In addition, Facebook stated it is “constantly working to detect and stop this type of activity because [it doesn’t] want [its] services to be used to manipulate people.”

Background

Three years ago, the UAE intelligence officials assembled over two hundred trolls under the leadership of Hamad Al-Mazrouie to fight its media wars on Facebook, twitter, and other social media platforms. A similar number of trolls were assembled by the Saudi intelligence department under the leadership of Turki Al-Sheik.

Unquestionably, Saudi Arabia and the UAE have established a sophisticated and well-funded Internet trolling operation. And though Egypt has the most advanced pool of Internet savvy technicians and operators, it didn’t pick up steam until two years later, after it started full cooperation with Saudi Arabia and the UAE.

Notably, the task force has been providing training and technical support to some countries that have joined the Saudi-UAE led alliance waging war in Yemen since 2015. One of the beneficiaries was the Eritrean ruling party (PFDJ) whose operatives received extensive training on the tactics of social media warfare. The main goal was to “provide training and facilities to the Eritrean ruling party to enhance its internet war against its opponents.”

Subsequently, the Eritrean government has established a task force under the leadership of Yemane Gebremeskel, the information minister, whose team includes several Eritreans residing in England, Sweden, the USA, and other parts of the world, including the Eritrean ambassador in Japan.

Moreover, the Eritrean trolls have been active in the Saudi-UAE campaign to encircle Qatar, and has been amplifying and translating tweets that originate from the UAE, Saudi Arabia, and Eritrea.

In implementing the misinformation onslaught, on Thursday, March 22, 2018, the Eritrean Ministry of Information issued a statement accusing Mohammed Jumma, an Eritrean exilee, now a citizen of the United Kingdom, of starting to “organize political and military activities as well as to train their members.”

Furthermore, the statement claimed that funding for the claimed activity was “provided by the Embassy of Qatar in Khartoum” While the “training and other logistical functions are managed by the Sudanese Security and Intelligence.”

Soon after the statement was published on the Eritrean government website, the topic was amplified on websites affiliated with the Eritrean regime, and on social media.

How are we affected?

For many years now, the existing outlets managed by exiled Eritreans have been engaged in an uneven media fight against a well funded Eritrean government owned misinformation machine. And it got worse after the Eritrean regime received considerable support from Saudi Arabia and the UAE.

Since 2000, just after the 911 incident in the USA, the Eritrean regime has closed the nascent free press, arrested its editors and reporters, and fully monopolized information in Eritrea. Almost two decades later, the whereabouts of the arrested journalists is unknown and they were never formally charged or sentenced.

Importantly, the troll activities affected awate.com since it was targeted by the PFDJ trolls who continually disrupt its discussions forum by amplifying misleading messages crafted by the troll task force in Eritrea, the UAE, and Saudi Arabia.

This is evident in the Awate Forum which has been running as a free discussion forum for almost 20 years, allowing anyone to participate as long as they adhere to the posting guidelines and debate with decency. However, the troll activities became so intense that many good and decent people have been intimidated and have limited their participation in the forum to avoid the abuse they receive from the trolls. But we will not allow that abuse to continue anymore.

Finally, we have decided to follow the Facebook decision and disable accounts that are disruptive and abusive. And it will not be haphazard—we have confirmed information that the primary target of the trolls is as follows:

  1. To disrupt any discussion that goes against the government scripted directives, and
  2. To consistently intimidate and abuse members who are perceived not loyal to the government and frustrate and discourage them to the extent of limiting their participation.

We apologize to all the decent people who were abused and due to that, had to limit their participation. But we will no more tolerate anyone who violates the posting guidelines or abuses other participants. The Awate Team is determined to keep the discussion forum clean, inviting, and free of abusive trolls.

Sources:
Saudi, UAE, and Eritrean Internet Trolling Cooperation (awate.com March 27, 2018)
Removing Coordinated Inauthentic Behavior in UAE, Egypt and Saudi Arabia (awate.com March 27, 2018)

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  • said

    Greetings,

    No man in the whole world can change the truth. One can only look for the truth, find it and serve it.
    -Dietrich Bonhoeffer (1906-1945)

    The only sadness’s that are dangerous and unhealthy are the ones that we carry around in public in order to drown them out with the noise; like diseases that are treated superficially and foolishly, they just withdraw and after a short interval break out again all the more terribly; and gather inside us and are life, are life that is unlived, rejected, lost, life that we can die of.
    — Rainer Maria Rilke
    New Testament, ‘Matthew 25:40: Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

    For some this is a hard saying and put into practice . It is hard to live with that. It is a merciless description of our responsibility for one another as Eritrean . It is that hard light under which one makes the high moral choice. why some need to disregard the message and betrayed their faith. some will argue Christianity is the source of all human rights .Majority of Eritrean. They ’ve fought for generations to ensure that human rights frameworks are truly inclusive. IA and his cohort have no concern for “human rights,” and some are complicit in their silences. they are toxic, and a lot of them are. . They despised patriotic true and hero Eritrean, and they get rid of them. for those heroes ,Eritrean have a tremendous love and respect and they are courageous , Save your lion’s share of your sympathy and compassion and your tears for them and the sacrifices they made to defeat Ethiopian formidable army. failure to achieve that goal because of EPLF/PFDJ oppression and intervention in their affairs.
    Those are irreproachable, indescribable nobility, for sellout attempted to ward off a and Eritrean proclaim them as a hero, betrayed by cowards. The short Eritrean history told here is fairly up to the moment EPLF/PFDJ . It is a story of lies ,false and propaganda, power plays. The constant thread in this narrative is the never-ending attempt to neutralize and destroy any and all attempts Eritrean inhabitants who have not seeing true freedom and liberty yet and to assert their right to live free.
    Eritrean had enough with hypocrisy, cowardice, and servility. If you haven’t been paying attention to IA for the last 40 years and cohort of EPLF select cadre . They have become particularly salient since the late seventies and for some can be tempting to distance themselves from regime they were part off. the ideologies of IA is well known that have shaped that country. They were silent, and in tacit agreement . IA position, widely, sincerely, and passionately held by many Tagadelty. How can any self-respecting and patriotic Eritrean not challenge the immorality or the injustices of IA and fellow Eritrean cadre and Ask yourself how somebody like IA rule Eritrea ? and something must be being seriously wrong with EPLF as organization that can not identify and distinguish the Evil leader . looks backs and observes the conditions that brought IA at the top. There are many issue only top leadership privies and previews ,the deep troublesome problems because Everyone really didn’t have a voice that could be heard. They spoke only to bathroom mirrors. Being very Conscious that all the destructive force of IA and Hench men ever imagined was being gathered and brought to its distraction and psychotic edge to Eritrea, Today Thousands fleeing cruelty and oppression in Eritrea believing that they will find a better life in the western countries only to be thrown into cages by forces far more powerful and agents much crueler fascist than that they run from
    Perhaps someone could have made the point that those ALL Eritrean who fought against Ethiopian were patriots fighting for their country’s independence and that those who died were heroes . Most Ethiopian soldiers fought for nothing except for greater Ethiopia and its support from some unionist apocalyptic Christians, its essentially colonialist ideology , Eritrean who sided with the colonialists Ethiopian and those who opposed it, are not equal . Ethiopian fought for themselves and each other in the fervent hope , in realty deep down that they would hope to return home with all of their limbs and not in a old flag-draped wooden casket,

    While the suffering of Ethiopian is sad and minor tragic, by far it pales in comparison to that of Eritrean.
    If it was not for PFDJ regime. Eritrea would be at a very different stage of development, The sadness of life of our society , fear of the future, the realty od Eritrea today and some dark conviction that everything is headed for a tragic end.one hope not. Of course, the realities are more complicated than the myth. Can we hope and trace even the faintest outlines of alternative can and should be for coming Eritrea.

    It’s more essential than ever to understand how IA got to rule Eritrea singlehandedly and who put him there. Then we need to make sure it doesn’t happen again. The life of Eritreans translates into nothing in the Eritrea system of value the agency of death. The only thing collective madness of PFDJ understand is brutality. When they rain down death … that is the fate they demand. malevolent, inhuman, devoid of compassion and Empathy ,devoid of human face, heart and blood .We are used to the bad news we have been deluged with bad, even mortifying, news, and for 28 years, the mind reels in bafflement as the spirit sinks. Despair seems an apt response to events one cannot reconcile, of circumstances of which one cannot gain perspective nor control. It have been catastrophic and apocalyptic
    Repeatedly we have seen this convergence before in Derge’s Ethiopia , in Omer Basher ’s Sudan, in Mussolini’s Italy, and so on: the rise of a dictator strongmen and demagogues, the ascendency of power politics and profit-driven politics over humanly deep-seated principles, the warring nationalism that seeks to divide and conquer their own society , the Asmara regime callous disregard for rule of law and basic human rights and dignity, and the silence of people who should known much better. Yet no matter how many times Eritrea has been down this road before, we can’t seem to avoid it, repeating the deadly mistakes of the recent past. This is playing out on a national and with diaspora scale. It is deeply wreaking havoc at the most immediate level, as well, creating rifts and polarities within Eritrean society, families, friends, communities that keep IA and poor soul warring among themselves and incapable of presenting a united front in the face of the PFDJ government’s goose-stepping agley despotism and dictatorship .
    We are definitely in desperate need of a population that can stand united against the government’s dictatorship and absolute authoritarian . How do you fight injustice? How do you push back against IA and his cohort PFDJ tyranny? The consequences of this massive failure by our people ,time have passed to do our due diligence in asking the right of our people, demanding satisfactory answers, and holding them responsible at the early time of 1990th .EPLF/PFDJ, to make officials accountable to respecting our rights and abiding by the rule of law and today we see the oppressive result and we now find ourselves on the losing end and regime in control of our country and our lives .Eritrean are pushed to the brink of a nearly intolerable state of affairs.
    Eritrean Surely they can manage to find some common ground in the midst of the destructive, disrupting, oppressive . inhuman ,diverting, discordant babble being beamed down at us by the powers-that-enabled IA ? sadly ,it clear , After all, there are certain fact Justices and self-evident truths—about the source of our freedoms, about the purpose of oppressive government, about how we expect to be treated by those Eritrean never elected nor appointed to serve us in IA government offices, what to do when the PFDJ abuses our rights and our trust, they are shredding the fabric of the nation, eclipsing the rights of the Eritrean people, to kill Eritrean citizens without due process, to detain suspects indefinitely, No matter how we might differ about where to draw the line when it comes to Eritrean innocent prisoners’ rights, surely we can agree that no one—woman, man and youth should be subjected to such degrading treatment in land of no law and order, and perverting basic standards of decency .etc.—it is up to Eritrean people collectively to unite and that we should be able to agree on, no matter how we might differ politically or other wise. Nor can we turn a blind eye to PFDJ abuses. We have ignored the warning signs all around us for very long time ,clear signs was there.
    At its basic core, this is not a debate about just politics, justice or reform , or even tyranny disguised as only best Eritrea can produce . This is a awfully condemnation of the Evil regime and IA monsters with human faces that have taken us to edge of dangers catastrophic zone. Yet the fact remain and it is unavoidable truth is that IA has become almost indistinguishable from the evil. No matter how you rationalize it, is still evil. First we need recognizing evil and injustice and dictatorship and tyranny for what they are.and liberate ourselves and our country from the Evil regime.

  • Peace!

    Hi All,

    Thank you Fanus Network for the brief
    and concise summary on the new ambassador Sofia and her upcoming huge project. In her own words she hinted the UN is the best avenue to reverse the current disappointing image of Eritrea while retaining the dictatorship at the same time she further said thousands are ready to flood google and other social media.

    https://youtu.be/BnH26s6AqII

    The hope that reform will take place any time soon is now officially dead rather PFDJ is now ready for ጸረ መጥቃዕቲ with new resources and TROLLS, not soldiers.

    Peace!

    • saay7

      Selamat Peace!

      Remember, when foreigners support the regime and its militia (militia taff, ዓድና ናፊቕና, bond villa is near completion), its solitary and pan Africanism, and all good. When foreigners support the justice warriors, it is selling out the country.

      saay

      • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

        Selam Saay

        ማንካ-ፋርኬታ ይብሉ ምስወዓዮም
        ጓንቶም የውጽኡዎ ቁሩብ ምስ ዘሓሎም
        መትከል ዘይብሎም
        ዘይነበሮም
        ነዚኦም ‘ታይ ክትብሎም

        እንታይ ዘይገበሩ ኢልካዮም
        ትእዛዞም ተቐቢሎም
        ስርሖም ምትግባር ጥራይ’ዩ ዝተባህሎም
        ዘይባህልና ተኺሎም
        ተካል ባህሎም
        ኣይትሓዘሎም
        ተኺእልካ ሕዘነሎም

        • saay7

          Selamat Mehands mEbale:

          The time when I used to feel sorry for them for being uninformed are gone as the information about the cruelty and sadism they are supporting becomes more and more prominent. Here’s one on Eritrean prisoners and the ክብርታትና the ክብሪ-ኣልቦ brag about: Mai Serwa prison

          https://youtu.be/_W09kQED3gM

          Saay

          • Desbele

            Thanks Saay for sharing.
            I know two of the detainees he mentioned, 1. Zergabir and 2. Major. Ghirmay Misghinna. Its very credible. Good job Jstudio.

          • saay7

            Selamat Desbele:

            Under Isaias, Eritrea is such an outlaw country that, during the time of the feuding warlords (Philipos, Samuel, Wuchu, etc), they were imprisoning one another’s loyalist. And the Isaiasists and the useless langa-langa are always telling us how uncorrupt these band of sadists are.

            saay

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Peace,

      This young guy not only he commands the language, but also his thoughts are well organized and ready for spoon feed to “apolitical” Eritrean people. I always enjoy him.

  • For Nitricc,

    So that you know why they baptized me tSAtSE.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FF8ApE37YG8 STUDY very hard with this head start I am generously providing you.

    tSAtSE

  • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

    ሰላማት

    ንዓማጺ እናደገፍካ
    ሓላዊ ሃገር ‘ናበልካ
    ኣብዚ
    ንዓዋተ ዲክታተር ክትኮኑ ደሊኹም ምባል
    ሓቂ ድዩስ ምስትብሃል
    ሕንፍሽፍሽ ምምዕባል
    ዝገርምዩ ናይ ኣግኣዛውያን ትሮል
    ተጻዒንካ ናይ ስዑዲ ፔትሮል
    ክንድዚ ሾንኮለል

    ኣንዳዕዲዕኩም ከም ጌደዎን ዘይትኾኑ
    ንመን ኢኹም ከተእምኑ
    ብንጹር ዘይትመስሉ ንሶፍያ
    ‘ቶም ዝተመርጽኩም ብሕርያ

    ኣብ ክንዲ ትሮል ኣይኮናን ትብሉ
    ንብጾትኩም ግዳ ዘይትመስሉ
    ኣብ መኣዲ-ሕንፍሽሽ ኣብ ጎደና-ጥፍኣት ዘይትዓስሉ
    ኣባላት ማሕበር ዓዋሉ
    ከይትበሃሉ?

    ብዓቢኡ ግብርኹም ይምስክር
    ክትሕብኡ ትፍትኑ እንታይ’ዩ ት ሚስጥር
    ሚስጥር ዘይኮነ
    ኣየ እንዳ ሰብ ነዋሕቲ-ጻፍር
    ንስኻትኩም ትሮል መራሒኹም ገታር
    ብሰሪ ውሽጣዊ ስንክልና ዘይክእል ክመሃር
    ናብ ህጉም ኣእተዋ ሃገር
    ‘ዚ ፈገር

  • Selamat,

    Where is Denmarkino Professor Paulos AArkey?

    View 2007 video talk by Juan Rodrigues if only for “The IRS ==> Theirs” or “A woman without her man is nothing. ==> A woman: without her, man is nothing.”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KdOPY1Iqiw

    tSAtSE

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      ሰላም ሰሎሞን,

      አስተብህል………
      ይዋሳእ አሎ ከተለልዮ ፈትን
      ንሓሳባት ከመይገይሩ ይመዝን
      ንኣፍልጦ ከመይገይሩ ይትንትን
      ፍቅሪ ህዝቢ ዘዔዝዝን ዝጣበቅን

      ድህሰሳ…..
      በዚ ገይርካ እንድሕሪ ዳህሲስካ
      ዝጥቀሞም ቃላት እንተ አስተብሂልካ
      ገጽ ኩሉ ፍልጠት ተኾይኑ ናቱ ሪዲኢትካ
      ክትረኽቦ ኢኻ ጳውሎሳይ ዓርከትካ

      መማጉትኻ……
      አስብህሎ ቃላቶም
      አለልይ ስነ-ሓሳባቶም
      እንታይ ይብል ኣቅዋማቶም
      ንሱ’ዩ ዝጠቅመካ ንምፍላጥ ሃለዋቶም

      ሓውኻ
      አ.ሕ

  • Selamat,

    I think I have good reason to share my main preoccupation and am not distracting from the current discussion by sharing these links here. Perhaps it is because the window of opportunity to generate pertinent discussions amongst Eritreans is during the weekends only in this forum:
    Also I maintain my stance and solidarity with the banned Hope of Awate Hope. Even if hope is another troll he is a good Hope troll with excellent arguments who was wronged by the forum moderator.

    “Will our kids be a different species?” Juan Rodriguez.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Syi9bqfFIdY

    and you might as well check this one out too as well as his “What will humans look like in 100 years?”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNJayNQVyTc

    tSAtSE

  • Saleh Johar
  • Senay Zer

    Dear Awatistas — The solution to the trolls is actually very simple. As someone on twitter said, ‘focus on our society, not the ‘fichos’ of our society.’ Awate moderators are doing superb job balancing freedom of expression vs. deliberate trolling, it is up to the individual participants to recognize and shun the fichos, and elevate the content on this forum.

  • Ismail AA

    Selam AT,

    This is gratifying and overdue Pencil edition. Since not so short time ago, disrupting and de-railing of focused discussion on substantive ideas contained in well thought and well written articles in to which writers invested precious time for public or readers’ benefit have become so bold, and that drifting debates from main issues took the form of pattern. The managers or moderators have been trying, sometime to no avail, to balance freedom of opinion expression and putting harnesses on wild deviators. They relied on soft rebukes and brief suspensions.

    Nonetheless, several worthy writers and serious commentators and debators have suffered abuses. Some have limited participation, while others chose to remain away. The most irritating part of the deviators’ strategy has been posing as regime opponents and supporter simultaneously though the veil they tried to wear proved too think to conceal their intention and identity. I think the message this Pencil edition delivers is encouraging. Better late than never, as it is conventionally said.

  • Blink

    Dear all
    The road to dictatorial mind starts when the head could not challenge the defeat of ideas so it rushes to use power . Power to silence people just for the sake of hiding your defeat .
    A hallmark of corrupt quasi-democracies is the executive’s willingness to use the power of the owner of any news organizations to reward individuals who are loyal and to punish anyone who gets in the way form.Effective liberal democracies depend on the rule of law being implemented in a politically neutral fashion. That’s an ideal that no society achieves completely, and there are many ways in which this article judicial noise falls well short.Trying to convince people that your opponents are in league with the nation’s enemies is one of the oldest tactics in politics, and it has been part of
    Some people in this forum despite refusal by SG and it has been a painful experience to some one who sacrificed too much for freedom falls to a losing game players .
    1.Systematic efforts to intimidate these who don’t repeat your words or these who have different views, Especially these who tried to stay away from kneeling down to your dinner table.
    2. Systematic patterns that indicates that people are being against your personal beliefs rather than simply a freedom to look things equally.
    3. Religious views can also push someone to use his apportioning game to silence the facts .
    4.Using ownership power to reward backers and punish opponents as a way of finding your dreamed groups becomes easy as to the opposite in reality
    5. To cover up past mistakes or wrong assumptions of different scenarios .

    The failure to recognize people don’t have to kneel to your views is the exact time to question your sanity . The degree of unfairness is wide open and it does not matter what ever you try , you need the hold on side . Giving certifications just for the sake of your personal feelings about a country and people is going to drain you for the long time . The know it all will not listen for self assessment calls.

  • saay7

    Selamat Awate:

    Way, way overdue but very much welcome.

    To add to what is written in this article, and to help Awatistas get better insight into the why and the how:

    1. The Isaias regime has re-organized Eritrea into different Fronts (yes, fronts) and the Eritrean Diaspora is a Front. It has its own structure and superstructure and its own administrators and “community leaders” that are exactly at par (or sub-par) with the administrators inside Eritrea. The titular administrator is Michael Teferi (he was the one escorting the Eritrean musicians as they played to empty seats in Ethiopia) and showing off his Amharic fluency.

    2. At social media level, the regime has created a social media center which is headed by a certain Mihreteab Medhane* (who seems to have invested all his energy into mimicking Zemehret Yohannes) who is active in Twitter. The social media center gets funding from Saudi/UAE, and you can tell this by how quickly the Isaias regime, which was practically a Qatar satellite state for most of the 2010’s has become the echo chamber of Saudi/UAE media involving itself in intra-Gulf disputes.

    3. The Isaiasists run a closed Paltalk session of “poletikawi nqHat” where those in Asmara are invited to give speeches with the Diaspora PFDJ (Gideon, Sirak) moderating the Q & A. All the usual suspects have come to do this and the most recent was Mihreteab Medhane with focus on how to co-ordinate social media campaigns. The message is two fold:

    3a. One group to focus on the “Eritrean narrative” (which is to say equating Eritrea with EPLF and PFDJ.) This is the above-it-all group focusing on tarikhna, kbr’tatna. They are to narrate Eritrean history, Ghedli history, publicize books, interviews, etc.

    3b. The other group is focused on disrupting the counter-narrative. These are the ones who say “weyane”, “digital weyane”, “oromo”, “Tigray”, “amhara”, “Jihad”, “sanctions”, “CIA”, “opposition”, “so-called opposition”, “traitors”, “quislings”. Their sole task (“defending Eritrea”, they call it) is to disrupt any discussion, sow seeds of suspicion.

    4. Part of this seed of suspicion is for some people who are for all intent and purposes hard-core Isaiasists to write here, in this forum and this website so that when they write at other media outlets and repeat their Isaias narrative, people can say, “Even ______ who writes for Awate agrees with us.” And therefore, those who don’t, are extremists.

    5. The goal is to make it appear that the Isaiasists version of Eritrea, the most abnormal state in the world, is the normal one and everything else is abnormal. It is to redefine reality.

    6. This being the case, it is political malpractice for us to allow them to run roughshod over this esteemed website. Because doing that chases off very capable people who can contribute greatly. It demoralizes the “silent opposition.”

    saay

    * I have debated “High School In Sawa” with this Mihreteab Medhane. Doing simple arithmetic (and testimonies from those who attended high school in Sawa) shows that the majority are under 18 years old (legally, children) when the State abducts them and gives them military training. He had to resort to “in the rural areas, Eritreans start elementary school late so they are already 18 when they enroll at Sawa High School.” In other words, lying comes second nature to these people: as easy as breathing.

    • Mahmud Saleh

      Selam SAAY
      I understand who the snub is targeting. MS, Blink, Nitrickay, Semere Tesfai, Hope, Mokie, Alex…who else? Man, your paranoia got worse as the news of the appointment of Sofia Tesfamariam hit the internet. Why do you feel surprised? I think the president (yes, the man you call “psycho”) is still in charge and until he remains in charge he will appoint people who are loyal to his policies. The same way the psycho man in the White House is doing; the same way that other head of states do. So get over it. I never met nor spoke to Sofia, I did not follow her articles the way i followed yours. But I know you have a bit of an ax to grind with her
      You can label people as your emotional states ebb and flow. No, problem with that. People are participating in this forum because they truly believe they are engaging in good faith. I have been insulted, ganged upon, ridiculed by people who do not agree with my viewpoints. I’m here on my own volition, Sir. I don’t take orders. I follow the guidelines, I live by them, and I don’t care for your threats. What this kind of attitude confirms is that if you had the guns, the army and the police, you would be as dictator, if not worse. All that you are saying is “repeat what I say.” The disciples can do so, and they are doing it faithfully, not me. At the end of the day, it is up to the people who run the forum. I know I’m here at their discretion. No more threats, please.

      • Hameed Al-Arabi

        Ahlan Mahmud Saleh,

        When Isaias takes a decision or appoints a person to a certain position he sets off from the same culture that assisted him in turning Eritrea to rubble. His culture (background) that produced that shocking results will never produce a positive change.

        In so far as those who support him set off from the very same culture that destroyed Eritrea, it is very difficult to influence them. Sometimes, a person may think he has influenced them, but they recoil to their old attitude – their deeply rooted culture. The only solution to fight these people is to destroy their culture from which they spring, and cause horrific deads.

        Consequently, how do we know a person, a group of people, a nation, or a regime is civilized? The method to know them is very simple. We have to examine their standpoint from a human being. As far as they view people from their loyalty to the regime, or they are Agame or none Agame, therefore they are uncivilized supporters.

        Al-Arabi

        • Nitricc

          Hi Al Arabi; s far as i am concern; civilization is to hear what you don’t like and to entertain views other than yours. From what i get, you are saying that this web-site should serve to only to those people who support the opposition, in that case, all awate-team has to do is include that statement in the posting guidelines and all problem solved. I see how civilized you are though. you don’t know what democracy and civilization is; even if civilization hits you in your face by 4 * 4.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Nitricc,

            Awate Team has a line to follow and hit her target. They don’t need my instruction whom to fire out or invite.

            I am speaking, Mr. Nitricc, about the culture that composes your mindset. The culture that permits you to degrade human beings and become greedy.

            I guess the litmus that distinguishes a civilized from an uncivilized person has made you angry. You have to realize that litmus is true. It is better to utilize it to uncover whether a person or a nation is civilized or uncivilized. It is very simple. Just examine his point of view from a human being.

            Al-Arabi

          • Thomas

            Hi Nitricc,

            What I and others know is that you have been writing your comment here since the start of this website. If anything, I always thought you were favored by the moderators or founders of this website.

            Let me state the facts here, I never read you using vulgar language against those who had for long determined to support the dictator.

            Because of lack of knowledge of Eritrean history and the Eritrean society at large, you are never able to write a sentence about Eritrea, the nation & her people. However, there was no day/s that you seem to stop attacking victims of the most cruel dictator.

            Never mind, you never thought some of the victims are readying your irresponsible comments here. You are doing all of these hiding behind your nickname/s. Can you identify yourself that you are not a robot?

            I think you are so disturbed that you may need a professionals help. That is I think you need a serious help!!

          • iSem

            Hi Thomas:
            Nitricc and the other “Woyttat” cannot hide behind lack of knowledge, the knowledge of good vs evil is built in every sane human being, unless he/she is sociopath like all PFDJ supporters.
            We had a good “enough” conference here in Toronto this long weekend and in the concert 500 people packed the hall. In PFDJ’s sell the nation, tyranical seminar they had Wedi Nebiat singing for them and they bowed their heads in shame. They had their usual park event, so did the Enough movement and the Enough movement in he park barbeque was also decent, six cities from Canada came representing their cities: Montreal, Calgary, Winnipeg, Vancouver, Ottawa, Toronto.
            So forget talking to “Woyttoa” and fifth columnist, the PFDJ supporters like Nitricc.
            Mark my words, the supports of PFDJ will be shamed when the dawn comes to Eri sooner or later.
            There was also a suggestion by an older Enough movement supporter that we should have an ID with an emblem for members of the Enough movement and I thought that was excellent idea for posterity because our kids or even us we would be able to say we were members of Enough movement back in the days when the PFDJ supports danced to the death of Eritreans in the high seas and chanted kill them when the G15 were arrested and pledged to supporter the butcher of Asmara, IA

          • Thomas

            Hi Semere,

            It has been a while since you guys in Canada have become a headache to the dying dictator. Congratulation to all Eritreans in Canada and all over the world – PFDJ has lost their presence in Canada again. This is the image I have about Nitricc
            – His father wearing a tie shirt with DIA picture on it.

            – His father frantically dancing at PFDJ festivals caring DIA’s framed picture with his one hand and loudly screaming the slogan “Nihna Nisu”
            – Nictric sitting jotting down the names of attendees and reaffirming the audience that DIA is the law of the nation:) Anyone who does not believe in DIA’s ruling is a traitor and a weyane.

            Very sad, it is impossible to continence these people no matter what!! Our only choice is to go after the dictator and kill their god, the dictator!

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ሰላም ቶማስ

            ኣነውን ከምዝከማኻ ይስከፍ ኔረ
            ደሓር ግን ሓንቲ ነገር ዘኪረ

            እዞም ሰባት መትከል ስለዘይብሎም
            ግምጥል ክብሉ ግዜ ነይወስደሎም

            ቀዲሞምኻ ድቕድቕ ኣስመራ
            ሕቡኣት ተቓወምቲ ና ኔርና

            ክብሉኻ ዮም
            ተጠሊዖም
            ግን ትሕቶ
            መን’ዩ ክሰምዖም

          • Thomas

            Thank you, Mehands-Mi’ebale! How true! You made me feel better now. Yes, indeed they will turn “Nefahito” on us:( Like Semere Andom said, it should have been about identifying good from evil. The only thing they are trained for is to deny the obvious thing. They are seeing the beasts in our country sucking the blood of our innocent citizens. These people turn around to tell us that it is not what it is. Like they care for humans, they dare to talk about the weyane day in day out.

        • Semere Tesfai

          Selam Al-Arabi

          1. – “When Isaias takes a decision or appoints a person to a certain position he sets off from the same culture that assisted him in turning Eritrea to rubble. His culture (background) that produced that shocking results will never produce a positive change.”

          2. – “In so far as those who support hm (Isaias) set off from the very same culture that destroyed Eritrea, it is very difficult to influence them. Sometimes, a person may think he has influenced them, but they recoil to their old attitude – their deeply rooted culture. The only solution to fight these people is to destroy their culture from which they spring, and cause horrific deads.”

          What culture would that be? Not that I don’t know what culture you’re referring to, but just want to know if you’ve the guts to say it straight without bends and curves.

          But if I’ve to bet you won’t say it straight; because you’re a coward.

          Semere Tesfai

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Semere Tesfai,

            I am speaking about the culture you have just mentioned in your comment, “but just want to know if you have the guts to say it straight without bends and curves. But if I’ve to bet you won’t say it straight; because you’re a coward.”

            Although all Awate forum know about your opinion on a human being, I will request you to explain how do you look to a human being?

            Open you eyes, clean your ears and gap your mouth well, Mr. Semere, I am the last person to shiver of uncivilized guy like you.

            Al-Arabi

          • Semere Tesfai

            Selam Al-Arabi

            “Although all Awate forum know about your opinion on a human being, I will request you to explain it again yourself how do you look to a human being? Then all could judge whether you are civilized or uncivilized guy. For example, the people you are accustomed to call Agame, ect.”

            That is a blatant lie. I don’t insult nor do I disrespect people collectively; never!

            And to expose liars like you to the whole wide-world, I always leave my disqus account open to the public – and so are the articles I wrote over the years.

            Now I challenge you to quote me with a date and time – which I know for sure you won’t.

            Semere Tesfai

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Semere Tesfai,

            The decisions that spring from the true Eritrean culture liberated Eritrea, however, decisions took by outsiders and their culture (strangers’ culture) caused to Eritrea and her people a lot of destruction. Examples you have the Andinet decisions, Badme War decisions, the war with Yemen, diplomatic decisions by your master, etc.

            Mr. Semere, Your uncivilized nature floods and vivid for all. You always seek for a gap to practice your hobby, division of the Eritrean people, but no one, at present, will care about your ploys and intimidations, “thank you for showing us your privilege card, that allows you to insult whole culture and people, and still get away with it.” Here you have proved clearly that you divide humans from the perspective of their race, region, religion, color, etc. This uncivilized certainty compels you to support torture and slaughter of innocent human beings.

            Sorry, Mr. Semere, I don’t have time to go and search articles and comments of uncivilized guy.

            Decisions that spring from a healthy culture that make a country developed or a failed nation.

            Al-Arabi

          • Blink

            Dear Mr.Semere
            Every one knows which culture hameed is referring to. He really doesn’t need to say bluntly, I mean he is not saying it to dummies . You know many disagree with Ali salim but you have to give credit to that man He was simply open and true to what he believed in.

            One Alpha man of this forum said long time ago “ PFDJ is alienating the lowlanders “ if you put a mirror in this statement he is saying exactly just like Hameed is saying except he still continues to believe people don’t know what he said .

            The bashing also includes like this “ ጽሓይና ኣብሪቅና ንጉስና መሪቕና ” and many things that you can say about such culture thing . The fact is to the opposite and that is the project they thought they could build on hate is all gone and failed . It has been tried with many folds and it failed . The last thing they hold now is simply to act like Issias in their small mini rotary club.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Blink,

            As usual, you have slipped down the cliff and swam in your hobbies – divide and rule. You have to conceive well, my friend, I am speaking about the alien culture that is acting like an Eritrean culture. In short, I am talking about the culture of treachery, hypocrisy, robbery, assassination, the abuse of children and women, inhumane deeds, greediness, lies, etc. The people of Eritrea, whether highlanders or lowlanders are honest, they despise lies, respect human beings, endear children and women, and deal with them with great kindness. The people of Eritrea disgust from the culture of cowards who shoot at school children to terrorize or kill them.

            Al-Arabi

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Hameed,

            You said: “The people of Eritrea, whether highlanders or lowlanders are honest, they despise lies, respect human beings, endear children and women, and deal with them with great kindness.”

            But Isaias is Eritrean, born and bred. His gangster regime, since the ghedli days, is enabled by people like you who claim to be ‘pure’ Eriteans.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Kaleab,

            You said, “But Isaias is Eritrean, born and bred.” But I say, Mr. Kaleab, Isaias declared in front of the entire world, in a broad daylight that he is an Ethiopian. You are not requested to know about it, for it is just a dream for you. It is not in the world that you imbibe your knowledge from. I understand why you miss this information because you have a special putrid pool from which you extract your information. Therefore, no need to follow the world and update your knowledge. The world around you doesn’t exist, for the uncivilized world hold you tightly.

            I guess I don’t require to question your opinion on a human being to know whether you are a civilized guy or not because I comprehend you are in the heart of the uncivilized world – the master of inhumane culture. It is enough for me to understand you are JIZANI who fights with God. By the way, did you watch your image in a mirror or did you see the photo of Tesfassein? I think, by now you know Satan very well. You could describe and speak about him.

            Al-Arabi

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Hameed,

            Is this your best reply? You cannot see the contradiction in your statements? In that case, you must be more stupid than I thought.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Kaleab,

            Before I come to your reply, I read your debate with Mr. Hidrat about the terrorist white guy who shot innocent human beings. The only crime they have, of course, according to the terrorist guy, their color is not white. It is not a wonder to see how a racist of the Horn to defend a racist of the USA. I am sure the white guy who shot the innocent people will not spare you from a shot on the head. It is natural to see you defend that terrorist because you have the same agenda in your rotten mind. You have proved my characterization to you, a devil. Truly you are an uncivilized, and fat-headed guy.

            To know a person, whether he is a savage (uncivilized) or not examine his opinion about human beings.

            Al-Arabi

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Hameed,

            You need to improve your English language reading and comprehension skills.

            Clearly, you are clueless about the content of what I wrote.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Kaleab,

            It is better for you to revise all the content you store in your mindset. The first step, you have to do is to check that it is free from Bacon’s idols which are the cave, market, ethnic and cultural idols. When you are free from these idols, then you could check the rest of the contents. The problem you draw your knowledge from a putrid pool that made you fume racism and the worst life deeds.

            I guess you are not Noam Chomsky with a sophisticated knowledge of the English language to claim you possess first-rate professional content. I am sure, the contents you have produced will add nothing good to humanity – you are just a heavy load and shame for humanity.

            Al-Arabi

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Hameed,

            Again, you need to concentrate on the basic skills of English language reading and comprehension.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Kaleab,

            It is good to see you cornered in the A B C class.

            Eritreans are civilized people they don’t support terrorists and mafias. I am sure you are not a pure Eritrean because you have failed in the first test of your stand towards a human being.

            The litmus of perspective towards a human being portrayed you as a typical Moorish.

            Al-Arabi

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Hameed,

            A time waster and an ignorant fool.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Kaleab,

            It is natural to observe you flaming because your real entity exposed, and there is no space for you to maneuver and spew your malice among Eritreans.

            In the Eritrean culture, a human being is sacred, but in your culture, you honor torture and killing of innocents greatly. Even children, women, and aged men spared not from your viciousness.

            You are a guy of compound ignorance; therefore, it is very difficult to disassemble and install you again. It appears you will live and die crooked; always bad smells diffuse from you.

            Al-Arabi

          • Paulos

            Selam Simon Kaleab,

            “In the beginning, there was a world of America”, these are the words of John Locke, the political theorist whose works influenced the Founding Fathers of the US. Thing is, if the US has its own genesis, it must have had its own Adam and Eve and it’s own Abel and Cain as well. More over, if the Founding Fathers particularly the authors of the Federalist Papers as in John Jay, Alexander Hamilton and John Adams were Adam and Eve, Liberty and Slavery are its Abel and Cain for the latter two are the defining characters of what America has always been and what it is today as well. Trump is the product of Cain and here you are with no limits of stupidity and arrogance laced with tactless defeatist mantra praising the man who is a sham and a racist through and through. Think before you comment!

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Paulos,

            Your are the ultimate fake person. Try to bring evidence rather than repeating leftist dogma.

            As far as fighting Isaias is concerned, show us the way rather than blowing hot air.

            By the way, I can organise a quick whip round for your one-way ticket to Asmara.

      • Desbele

        Good job MS listing them correctly
        Are you መራሕ ጉጅለ?

      • Simon Kaleab

        Selam Mahmud,

        Why is the man in the White House a psycho?

        For standing up for the interests of the forgotten American worker?

        For standing up against the Chinese who are dumping their state subsidised products and are using an army of hackers and thieves to steal cutting edge American technology?

        For advocating secure borders and demand and need driven immigration?

        By the way, the American president is elected by the people who have also the right not to vote for him in 2020 if they choose to do so.

        What has Isaias being called a psycho got anything to do with the American president anyway? You are fond of mixing issues.

        A Tale of Two Brains – Men’s Brain Women’s Brain – by Mark Gungor:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29JPnJSmDs0

        • Selamat Simon Kaleab,

          You might not be entirely correct here: As I am an American registered voter who will vote for any one other than the misogynist ic psychotic current American President Trump, your video share which is clearly a misogynistic view could be yet another TROLL in support of another PSYCO giving a way out to MS.

          The forum should be warned of the stealthy trolls and the intricate syndicate lurking amongst them.

          Seb tSewiEi tebelkuas zibEiiii!

          Any who I have way too much time on my hand this weekend apparently.. time to hit the books and comics,,, Later folks!

          tSAtSE

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Gitsatse,

            As usual, you are confused.

            Listen carefully, the man is having a laugh at the expense of both men and women.

            Who is a troll? Look at the number of posts you made in one day.

          • Selamat Simon Kaleab,

            Not confused about your continuous support of the Psyco American President Trump. And yes Trump is a misogynist and a loyal defender such as yourself logically I deduced to be a misogynist.

            You are right about my numerous posts this weekend I happen to have some free time to visit this monotone forum. Yes you are right you can enjoy the deffeaning silence in this forum lately along with Ghadi who is amused by your retort. I have nor the time or desire to troll you and all the dead weight anyhow.

            tSAtSE

          • Blink

            Dear Simon
            Trump won and evil Hillary lost . Trump is fighting for America and Hillary was fighting for her husband Cheating NGO . Trump won even in places that some liberals refuses to believe. I think Trump is better than the Obama killer drone.

          • Brhan

            Hi Blink,
            FYI
            Dayton mayor: Trump’s rhetoric has been painful!

          • Blink

            Dear Brhan
            You are right I saw her but she is simply talking about hate speech not about the main substances of the cause like gun control laws . Gun control laws are not easy in the states . It will not only require Trump but the senate vote . I think it is horrible and horrific to see kids got shot while in school and people while shopping but the second Amendment is an important constitutional right for the citizens but ground check should not be a problem at all .

            Trump aside from his lousy words is far better than Obama the killer and Hillary the lair

        • Brhan

          Hi Simon:
          FYI
          Dayton mayor: Trump’s rhetoric has been painful!

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Brhan,

            Selective outrage.

            During Obama Obungo’s 2 term presidency, there were 32 separate shootings. But that is OK.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Simon,

            Yes there were mass shooting during Obama’s Presidency. The difference between Obama and Trump are (a) Obama and his party was fighting to pass gun laws if not to stop it to minimize the mass killing. Trump and his party along with NRA have resisted any meaningful gun laws (b) Obama was a consoling in Chief to the families of the victims. Trump isn’t (c)Trump is funneling hate and racism that incite mass killing. Obama rejected hate and racism and tried to do something about it (d) Obama has humanity. Trump isn’t.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Amanuel H.,

            Accusation of racism is mostly a codeword for: “I used to be oppressed in the past. so do not criticize me for my incompetence and corruption now”.

            In Saint Obama Obungo’s gun controlled city, Chicago, 10 to 15 people get killed and many more get injured every weekend.

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            Liberals and Logic
            don’t mix. I promise you if these shootings couldn’t be used in some
            political way, the MSM wouldn’t give the story 30 seconds coverage.
            Murder and shootings in Chicago, who cares. Murder and shootings in
            Baltimore, who cares. Murder and shootings in New Orleans, who cares.

          • bardavidi

            Hi…..Simon…..WOW…..You hit the Bulls eye………The word
            racism when mentioned by Liberals and the Socialist Media misses its original meaning and does not apply to them either……….There is no reason to repeat what you said but………Reality is backed by fact and fact by numbers……..In 60 Years they took every major City in the Union from adequacy to a Murder,Poverty and Welfare capitals with no Apology and Pride………..That is why I always say…….I would rather be Right than Wrong………..Selah

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Simon,

            Whether the killing is in a mass or on individual basis, losing over thirty thousand lives per year by uncontrolled guns, shows something wrong with the power holders and their base. And those who are against a meaningful gun control are devoid of common sense. It is foolishness, because mass killing will not spare even conservatives souls where ever it happened. If the resistance against gun control is for political reason, it is dumb politics in a blissful ignorance. This should not be a matter of conservatism or liberalism.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Amanuel H.,

            The Dayton mass shooter was a supporter of democrats Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders. Are you willing to condemn them?

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Simon,

            Of course I do. It doesn’t matter whether they are supporters of Elizabeth or Trump. If crime is committed it must be condemned. Period. However, you don’t. I could understand from your questions. From your questioning you sound you support the hate monger President who funnels hate to incite killings. Aren’t you? You see Simon you want to equate those who funnels and those who oppose them. With that I rest my case.

            Regards

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ኣንታ ስምኦን ሓወይ

            ‘ንታይ ዝኾነ ሓበሻ ደኣ’ዩ ንትራምፕ ዝድግፍ ‘ኳ የ ዝብል ዘለኹ
            ኣላባማ ተወሊዱ ዝዓበየ ጻዕዳ ከይትኸውን ተጠራጢረ ሕጅስ

            ከምትፈልጦ: ነዞም ኣፍሪቃውያን ዝገደፈልና ጸርፊ የለን
            ከም ጸሊም ድማ ትሪኦ ‘ለኻ እንታይ ከምዝብለና። ብምንታይ ደኣይኻ ‘ሞ ትድግፎ?

            ዲታ ከምደናዳይ ተኾይንካ ግን ኣይሕዘልካን። Tax cut ማለተይ ‘ዩ።
            እምበር እዝስ: ሳይንስ ኣይኣምን (መምህር ናይ ሳይንስ ኢኻ ትመስልነን ኔርካ። ብገለ ነገር)
            ቢዝነስ ክኢላ ‘የ ኢሉ ከምዛትሪኦ ከየዕነውና ኢና ንፈርሕ

            ምሕሳው መዓልታዊ ስርሑ። ወረ ምፍጣር ተበልናዮ ይሓይሽ
            ኣመሳሽጥኡ ከይንብል ከምዛ ትሪኦ’ዩ።

            በል ደሓን ካብ ፈተኻዮስ: ትረኽቦ ተኾንካ: ናይዞም B-1 ቪዛ ‘ባ ኣጉድል ኣብላ በሎ።
            በይ ኤርያ ‘ኳ በዞም ህንዲ ኣጥለቕሊቓ።
            ይምሕጸነካ ልኹ ‘ዚኣ ከተብጻሓለይ

            የቐንይለይ ድማ

          • Brhan

            ሰላም መሃንድስ ምዕባለ

            በል እነሃልካ ዕላለ
            መን በለ
            ዶ እንታይ በለ
            ሕንቅልሕንቅልተይ ዶ ኮይና መ. ምዕባለ

            መን በለ
            ማሕሙዳይ በለ
            እንታይ በለ
            ግዲ የብልካን ስቕ ኢለካ ዝለለ

            ናቱ ውቃበ ክነግረካ ኣነ
            “ምስጉን” እምበር “ማሕሙድ” ዘይኮነ
            አጉረዕ- እምቢሕ እምቢሕ ኢሉ ተገተረ
            ሰራሪኡ ወሪዱ ከይተኣስረ
            ስለዚ ክሳብ ናብ ልቡ ዝምለስ
            መሃንድስ ምዕባለ ሓወይ ቅሩብ ተዓገስ

          • Semere Tesfai

            Selam Brhan

            “መን በለ?
            ማሕሙዳይ በለ
            እንታይ በለ?
            ግዲ የብልካን ስቕ ኢለካ ዝለለ

            ናቱ ውቃበ ክነግረካ ኣነ
            “ምስጉን” እምበር “ማሕሙድ” ዘይኮነ
            አጉረዕ- እምቢሕ እምቢሕ ኢሉ ተገተረ
            ሰራሪኡ አይወረደ አይተኣስረ………”

            Why does he has to be ምስጉን and not ዑስማን፡ ኢብራሂም፡ ኸሊፋ፡ ሓሰን……?

            ኣየ በዓል ንስኹም!
            ኩሉሳዕ ኣብ ታኼላ ትሕተ-ሃገራውነት ምስ ተሸመምኩም!

            ሰመረ ተስፋይ

          • Brhan

            Hello Semere,
            Thanks for your effort to read my poem. Can you try reading it again within the context and you will reach to another conclusion.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Semere Tesfai,

            This is – ኩሉሳዕ፡ ኣብ ታኼላ ትሕተ-ሃገራውነት ምስ ተሸመምኩም! – an example of your (Semere Tesfai) uncivilized culture. You commend those who say, “እምቢሕ እምቢሕ” and degrade those who say no to dictatorship and injustice. This proves the system of your thinking draws its knowledge from a rotten pool. I guess it is time to check the whole system of your thinking, and the pool you use as a reference.

            Al-Arabi

          • Semere Tesfai

            Selam Hameed Al-Arabi

            Allow me to make two points – just to clear the conversation:

            1. – When Brhan said what he said, he knew exactly what he was talking about. But when you said what you said, you didn’t know what you were talking about. The reason: To Brhan, Tigrigna is his mother tongue. But to you, Tigrigna is a second/learned language. Therefore, there is language barrier here in this communication.

            Let me explain: እምቢሕ እምቢሕ and እምባሕ እምባሕ are two different Tigrigna words with completely two different meanings.

            2. – እምባሕ እምባሕ refers to the happy mood/sound of, herd of cattle that were separated away all day for grazing, and are reaching/coming home ready to greet/meet their calves.

            Example: ዓይኒ ‘ሕዝ ምስ ኣበለ፡ ኣሓና፡ እምባሕ-እምባሕ እንዳበላ ደንበአን ኣትየን።

            እምቢሕ እምቢሕ refers to the sound that is made by a person who is in unstable mental state, that is believed to have been possessed by some alien evil spirit or demon.

            Example: ትማሊ ለይቲ፡ ለተብርሃን፡ እምቢሕ-እምቢሕ እንዳለት ከተጉርዕ መሬት ውግሕ ኢላ።

            Now, read Brhan’s poem and it will make a lot of sense to you.

            Semere Tesfai

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Semere Tesfai,

            Both እምባሕ እምባሕ and እምቢሕ እምቢሕ refer to the state of mind of an animal and a person. Furthermore, Both of them either suffered in the past or are suffering at the present. You have forgotten the anguish of the cattle and calves the whole day. እምባሕ እምባሕ is the result of hardship and እምቢሕ እምቢሕ is the state of misery now. I understand the animal sufferance is not in your board of calculation. It is the culture that ignores animal pains. The mafia doesn’t feel either the animal or human anguish. The problem lies in the source they extract their knowledge from, the culture that soaks up their mindsets.

            Al-Arabi

          • Brhan

            Hello Semere,
            1)English was not the mother tongue for Chinua Achebe
            2) You have a problem in reaching to conclusions : for you one word is enough to reach to a judgment
            3) since you like to judge, I wonder if you heard to both sides of the case : In this case ( my poem) you seem to be only on one side without even providing your point of view why the other side is right . Reread my poem till then you do not know what you are talking about.
            Thanks

        • Thomas

          Hi Simon,

          At Simon arkina can koinuka “Ni Trump ztenkefa fa fa Unkula’afa kitibl tikerm”. Most of us who are visiting this forum are naturalized American Citizens. The population of The United States is over 300 million where us the population of Eritrea is ~5 million (60 times over the entire Eritrean society). How many Eritreans we hear dawning at Libya/Mediterranean sea, crossing the Saharan desert, getting killed by bloody murderer/his click and more. You don’t have an appetite to talk about this all, but a person said something about Trump you are getting nuts over that…. Shame Sham Shame!!

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Thomas,

            The Eritrean case is hopeless.

            Me and you and other Eritreans are responsible for bringing Isaias to power and enabling him to set up a gangster regime.

            The Eritrean people are now exhausted. They do not have an appetite for a civil war or any other war. The only option left is to sit out until Isaias dies [and we are still alive]. Even then, it all depends on the behaviour of the gangster generals.

          • Thomas

            Thank you for responding, Simon. So your recommendation is to sit and wait until the dictator is gone by natural cause, really? How does that happen? Is that just being lazy or you are trying to be funny here? Please elaborate. Again, I know your usual statement, “What are you waiting for?”. So please do not restate that statement again:)

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Thomas,

            As I said, the Eritrean people are now exhausted. They do not have an appetite for a civil war or any other war. There has been too much sacrifice.

            But for those who want to fight, it is going to be a one-way ticket, like being swallowed by a Black Hole.

            Give the man 10 to 15 years, he will be lucky to be able to climb up the stairs unaided. It is said that Beauty and Power have no enemy but TIME.

            Dogs lyrics, by Pink Floyd:
            ==========

            You gotta be crazy, you gotta have a real need

            You gotta sleep on your toes, and when you’re on the street

            You gotta be able to pick out the easy meat with your eyes closed

            And then moving in silently, down wind and out of sight

            You gotta strike when the moment is right without thinking

            And after a while, you can work on points for style

            Like the club tie, and the firm handshake

            A certain look in the eye and an easy smile

            You have to be trusted by the people that you lie to

            So that when they turn their backs on you,

            You’ll get the chance to put the knife in

            You gotta keep one eye looking over your shoulder

            You know it’s going to get harder, and harder, and harder as you get older

            And in the end you’ll pack up and fly down south

            Hide your head in the sand,

            Just another sad old man

            All alone and dying of cancer

            And when you loose control, you’ll reap the harvest you have sown

            And as the fear grows, the bad blood slows and turns to stone

            And it’s too late to lose the weight you used to need to throw around

            So have a good drown, as you go down, all alone

            Dragged down by the stone (stone, stone, stone, stone, stone)

            I gotta admit that I’m a little bit confused

            Sometimes it seems to me as if I’m just being used

            Gotta stay awake, gotta try and shake off this creeping malaise

            If I don’t stand my own ground, how can I find my way out of this maze?

            Deaf, dumb, and blind, you just keep on pretending

            That everyone’s expendable and no-one has a real friend

            And it seems to you the thing to do would be to isolate the winner

            And everything’s done under the sun

            And you believe at heart, everyone’s a killer

            Who was born in a house full of pain

            Who was trained not to spit in the fan

            Who was told what to do by the man

            Who was broken by trained personnel

            Who was fitted with collar and chain

            Who was given a pat on the back

            Who was breaking away from the pack

            Who was only a stranger at home

            Who was ground down in the end

            Who was found dead on the phone

            Who was dragged down by the stone

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            Hi Simon,

            ሓው ስላስ
            ‘ሞ ኢልካና ፋይዳ ‘ብልን ምቅላስ

            ኣጆኻ ሳይሞን
            ተስፋ ኣይትቑረጽ ክጥዕሞ ንመን
            ነዓ ደኣ መልሰሉ
            ዓሰርተ ሓሙሽተ ዓመት ‘ንታይ ብሂሉ

            እሞ

            ዓዲ ዝበሃል ነገር ረስዕዎ
            ማህደር ቃልስኹም ዕጸውዎ

            ሓዳርኩም ግበሩ ኣብ ዘለኹሞ ዓዲ
            ሸንኮለል ኣይትበሉ ኣብዘይናትኩም ዓውዲ
            ኣይክተረኽብዋን ኢኹም ናይ ኢሳያስ ዘውዲ

            ገገዝኹም ኪዱ
            ሓዊ ኣጓጉዱ

            ኮይኑ ትነገር
            ፖላይትሊ ኣፍካ ኣይስዓር

            ግን

            ካብ ሕርቃን ‘ዩ ከምኡ ዘብለካ
            ይረዳኣኒ’ዩ ትምኽንያት ግን
            ስለምንታይ ኢድካ ሂብካ
            ደሓን ክሓልፍዩ ኣጆኻ

            ተስፋ ኣይትቑረጽ
            ክመጽእዩ ትመርጸሉ ዋላ ውን ንክትምረጽ

            ክነእትዎ ነዞም ናይ ዓዋሉ ጋንታ
            ናብ ሃልሃል ዝብል ረመጽ

            ኣጆኻ ፕሮፌሰር
            መፍትሒ ክትፈጥር ተመራመር

          • Thomas

            Hi Simon K,

            Trust me know you. You stand/believe in the following
            1) You like a strong man like DIA to lead countries in Africa. You believe in strong man at least on those who bluff on media/television such as DIA, Trump and so on. So, you don’t mind to see Eritrea for the next 10 years by DIA. Obviously, DIA is your boy for Eritrea!
            2) To destruct debaters here you like to talk about religion. Obvious, by doing this you simply are trying to save your DIA from further being exposed. Again, you simply want the regime of DIA to stay in power until nature takes care of them. You can try to run but you cannot hide. You are a supporter of whom you call “a strong man”
            3) You say you are “agazian”, but I know you are not. I don’t like the “agazian” group but you are worst because you support the worst dictator in the world to stay in power and keep oppressing my people.

            Let me tell you something. You are alone and we know who you are. We will wipe-out the dictator regime soon. It will be very soon. The Real Eritrean people are saying enough to brutal dictator. So, give up!

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Thomas,

            You sound drunk. Are you typing this post from inside a bar? Try again when you are past the hangover.

          • Thomas

            Simon K,

            Again, shitaraka dewr!

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Thomas,

            Nobody is holding you hostage. Feel free to go back and fight Isaias. Good luck!

      • Selamat Mahmuday “The Best” Saleh,

        The mad man kidnapped and murdered the creme de la creme of OUR EPLF and the real leaders of Eritrea and Eritreans. What was your opinion of “Joshua” for example during the armed struggle and afterwards. Do you think the psycho kidnapper and murderer was and is fit or qualified to tie to shine and tie the shoe laces of Fisehaye “Joshua” Yowhans. Are you seriously calling the psycho kidnapper murderer a president. We know who were the architects and muhandisat of the organization you proudly call your own, i.e. the EPLF. The psycho kidnapper murderer dictator Isaias Afeworqi murdered all of them because these real heroes of Eritrea were the real braves of the EPLF who recognized that the PSYCHO was and IS INDEED A PSYCHO NOT FIT TO LEAD THE NATION and be called “President”. A PSYCHO your President??? Gidefena ‘ske’! Some of us have disowned our most beloved brothers for forgetting about JOSHUA! And you call a PSYCO KIDNAPER MURDERER A “President still in charge.” You are an intelligent individual it seemed.. but to call the kidnaper and murderer of JOSHUA your president is reflective more of your real intellectual capability. Please do not proudly tell us that the gallant EPLF is your organization with an entitled sense of pride. We know who the real owners architects and Engineers of the EPLF were. They were kidnapped and murdered. Those who remained behind and call the monster PSYCH kidnapper MURDERER dictator Isaias Afeworqi Eritrea’s President are the accomplices and servant trolls of the PSYCHO. Siga BtSay Harbegna Tegadalat TebaE JOSHUA even if Eritrea was to be paved in gold and flowing with milk and honey will
        I, tSAtsE, and the greater majority Eritreans who are like minded would ever see the hideous murderer residing at Adi Halo as anything more than a PSYCHO!
        So you say you like to debate and love to claim the EPLF as yours. Then engage now to proven wrong that so long you call the PSYCHO a president you are indeed a thief and false proprietor of the galant EPLF and are indeed a servant foot soldier and loyal troll of the PSHYCO kidnapper murderer dictator Isaias Afeworqi residing in Adi Halo. Engage by telling me the true characteristics of JOSHUA if in fact your were his comrade in Sahel. Here is your chance to talk about JOSHUA NOW! or revert to your systematic trolling and your great service to your “President”. A PSYCHO a President??? Who are you kidding Mahmuday “The Best” Saleh.

        The Admiral! SAAY who you called “the snub” as you are indeed snubbed by him hits the hammer on the nail with this #4 that describes with the utmost great precision the services rendered by YOU and ONLY you Mahmuday. Here is an accurate mirror, read and reread and after reflecting give your response an accurate description of JOSHUA! or do your own “snub” thing.. Pass on the same message to Ted yet another snub.
        Mahumuday’s and only Mahmuday most accurate and precise description by the Admiral! QutSri ArbaEte:

        4. Part of this seed of suspicion is for some people who are for all intent and purposes hard-core Isaiasists to write here, in this forum and this website so that when they write at other media outlets and repeat their Isaias narrative, people can say, “Even ______ who writes for Awate agrees with us.” And therefore, those who don’t, are extremist

        tSAtSE

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Saay,

      They are not individuals. They are teamed together to defend the regime. Actually, they are two groups. The first group are assigned for limited message to insult and vilify forumers who opposed the tyrant regime. The second group are here in twisting and misrepresenting the views of others. They create their own words and phrases to misrepresent the ideas of their opponents based on the instructions from the pages of the political manual of the regime. They are grouped because the views are uniformly penned down. Thy are not independent because for decades they never had an opposed views of each other even for minor issues. On the other side (those who oppose the regime) if you check our debates, you will find issues we agree each other or disagree each other. They are here with a strategy not to debate with different organized view, but to oppose, to disrupt, to misrepresent, and worse to insult. Trollers do not debate on ideas.

      Regards

      • Mahmud Saleh

        Selam Emma
        Just because Emma does promote Wayanay ideology, I can’t conclude he is a troll. At least that’s where logic leads me to. But then, I understand logic does not work in your realm. Well, call it organized or what not, trust your facts and engage in good faith, without patronizing people. All that what this shows is that you are incapable of tolerating the heat that a differing viewpoint causes to you. I have noticed that long time. If Eritrea had been run by folks like you, Somalia would have looked like a vacation destination. That is why we fight you. We do not wait for alms from anywhere. It is a call of duty.

      • saay7

        Selamat Emma:

        As a forumer and former moderator, I have given my views. The Awate admin is free to take it (prune the website from trolls) or leave it (continue to give them warnings for the umpteenth time.)

        It’s a no-brainer for me: prune it. This will get them to squeal like pigs and cry violation of their free speech rights (a right they don’t believe Eritreans in Eritrea should have) but it will bring back many sane Eritreans (readers and contributors) who have been staying away to avoid their loud lies, their insulting stands, and rude demeanor.

        Saay

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          ሰላም ሳልሖም,

          ኣውያት…..
          አነስ ከማኻ እንድየ አስሚዔ ኣውያተይ
          መማህራን ከንሳሕቡ እንዳረኤ ዚዓይነይ
          ደምበ ፍትሒ ክድፈር የምጸኣለይ ቃንዛይ

          ዝገርም’ዩ….
          ንህዝቢ መሰል ከሊኦም
          መሰልና ይብሉ ኣብ ገዛና መጺኦም
          ዘይነቀፍቲ በጀካ ሰዓብቲ
          ንሱ ንሕና እኮዮም በሃልቲ
          ዝዋሃቦም ትእዛዝ ጥራይ ፈጸምቲ

    • Nitricc

      6. This being the case, it is political malpractice for us to allow them to run roughshod over this esteemed website which is the avatar of Eritrean oppositon. Because doing that chases off very capable people who can contribute greatly but don’t have the patience for the trolls.

      Hey SAAY; no need to antagonize the people you don’t like or people you don’t agree with your beliefs. You have the power to ban anyone who disagrees with your takes. I thought you left the awate-team but since you inserted ” for us to allow them” you must be back with the team. If so, just ban anyone you disagree with. It is not the first time, years ago you banned me for a year citing ” the opposition needs their own home” after all those years for you to get back to that backward and flowed believes is beneath you. I have always believed clashing views bering the best out of every one and it is the only place Eritreans can practice the art debate and dissent is on this forum. Having said that, there is no point making feel people outsiders and don’t belong here. Go ahead start banning people; go ahead. Just a reminder this is 2019.

      • Selamat Nitricc “The Protozoa!”

        Yes it is 2019 I am confirming for you the fact but let me add another fact for you: In 2019 you are still an avid supporter and an accomplice to a PSYCHO Kidnapper Murderer Dictator Isaias Afeworqi. You are indeed a troll and thank you for recognizing you are one and should be banned. Have your Eritrea paved in gold and flowing with milk and honey and view it with your rose collared spectacles along with your fellow TROLLS! You support a MURDERER and you should recognize you are indeed a MURDERER yourself. Your PSYCHO boss was and still is way way way substandard to the REAL LIBERATOR AND ERITREAN HERO JOSHUA! Your single celled Protozoa cell could not and will never recognize the REAL Eritrea even if it bit you in the BUTTOCKS! So long you fellow TROLL Mahmuday “The Best” Saleh calls the PSYCHO a President, rest assured then Mahmud wan never ever a true liberator hero. But you are free be delusional and view him as a hero.

        tSAtSE

        • Nitricc

          Hi Tsatse; you must be one of those ON the zone. you know! I understand, i have followed long enough. Regarding PSYCHO, well that will be your PSYCO not mine. There is a different looking after the well being of the nation and supporting YOUR PSYCO. I could have explain to you the difference and the danger the country is in but again hit me up when you are out of your zone. And thanks for the insult, appreciated. it concerns me greatly the future of the country with unstable people like your self. chill out and take your med. Thanks.

          • Nitricc,

            You see, thanks to iSem I developed great interest in the anatomy of a protozoa. Its limbs, organs, brain and entire make up. I have directed it time and again and came to realize this brilliant biological being possess double the limbs, twice as many the organs and quadruple the weight and volume of any humanoid’s brain. It is so brilliant this protozoa that it reminds me of you. Just look it up and you will know what I mean.

            Regarding the safeguarding of the nation, allow me to congratulate you on your idolization of its murder. You and your likes continue to thrive on the perpetual state of an UNSTABLE STATE. The dangers it faces is of your making led by the kidnapper murderer psycho dictator who you hail as a saint prescribing your idiot followers to worship him and to go bathe in his holy waters adi halo. But you have to contend with folks like tSAtSE. Go and ask you murdering dictators nine out of ten fake cabinet accomplices of murder about their recognition of the genius of tSAtSE long long ago as early as 1978. Ask your Kisha his perturbed moments next to Sherifo and what the Sikifta was then and is now. Be sure to ask the likes of Semere RiEsom the events of from February to October of 1981… And remind your best friends, the kidnapper murderer PSYCHO dictator IA’s siblings that tSAtSE and the WeinHaregs and Awets and Jemals were heading the opposite direction towards the safeguarding of the country and as a soundtrack play for them “Adeye Adi Jeganu, Adeye Adi Jeganu beAl menn iyom itom zhademu.” This is tSAtSE you are addressing Nitricc and when you ever dare to stare into my eyes you will see WHY I AM FURIOUS AND MAD BECAUSE THE PHYCO KIDNAPPED AND MURDERED THE TRUE ERITREAN NATION THAT IS AND WILL EVER BE FISEHAYE “JOSHUA” YOWHANNS!
            But only temporarily! For JOSHUA LIVES in the hearts of tSAtSE! and your day of reckoning for you parasites murdering worshipers of a MURDERER and murderers yourselves IS VERY NEAR! The GENIUS of tSAtSE and the wrath you will savor very soon. Never mind the meds and the poison tSAtSE has consumed when tSAtSE was shocked of the existence of MURDERERS AND KIDNAPPERS AND SELLOUTS! tSAtSE may have experienced insanity but it was TEMPORARY INSANITY. Do you remember even the “UNSTABLE” tSAtSE you Nitricc WAS RUNNING WITH YOUR TAIL TUCKED and erasing your electronic INCRIMINATING TRAIL. THE FURY AND FIRE IN MY EYES AND THE WRATH I HAVE ONLY POSTPONED FOR YOU TO REALLY FEEL UNTIL A VERY FAST APPROACHING TIME.

            This is tSAtSE AND UNTIL JUSTICE FOR JOSHUA IS OBTAINED BE SURE TO NOT SLEEP SOUNDLY. Go ask your murdering idols THE GENIUS OF tSAtSE way back then. Nod meds or poison necessary Nitriccay. YOUR KINDNAPPIN MURDERER PSYCHO DICTATOR ISAIAS AFEWORQI WILL BE FOUND GUILTT AS CHARGED AND WILL HANG!!! Tell him tSAtSE sent you with the message.

            JOSHUA!

            tSAtSE

          • Nitricc

            Hi Tsatse; since you refused to take your med; i am forced to apply one. At this point i am doubting every story you ever told us. if not how could you miss the larger story? You worry about individuals but i see the greater picture, the picture that was set by the great man, his excellency President Issaias Aforki. watch this and remember Father Mehamed Nur; the brave real Eritrean man. I doubt you get it but here is anyways. I hope you get better soon.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luzMIpx5sfQ

          • Nitricc,

            Your Kidnapper Murderer PSYCHO Dictator Isaias Afeworqi and you better get started on your TECHNOLOGY regarding the tSAtSE..

            From tSAtSE to ONE GiAnt GitSAtSE! Every KIRDAD remaining in your organization knows about the genius of tSAtSE. Ask your buddies the siblings who gave you my photo in 1978. And here you better start shopping and upgrading you technology:

            More study material for you:
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55tXhnlZoOg

            GitSAtSE

            tSAtSE

          • Nitricc,

            Anta seraQi you thieving supporter of a sadist murderer:

            Did you know the liberator of Nakfa once and for all, the Brave commander Berhe tSAEda was murdered by your dictator because he was made to look a miniscle KIRDAD. Martyr Tegadalay Berhe tSAEda who was summoned from the highlands after the murderer Isaias Afeworqi utilized a very costly and ineffective strategy against the Dergue for over sixth months. Thousands and thousands of Eritrean fighters lost their lives unnecessarily. After the arrival of Commander Tegadalay Berhe TsaEda thunderous rebukes of IA’s futile strategy, Berhe TsaEda attacked during the dat and LIBERATED NAKFA within hours chasing the Derg soldiers who have never set foot on Nakfa ever since. While on the chase and in order to secure the newly liberated Nakfa, Tegadalay Berhe tSAEda climbed to a very high escarpment to assess run away enemy soldiers and to direct his forces. But the glaring miserable failure and very costly strategy Isaias Afeworqi deployed for over sixth months as compared to the feat Martyr Tegadalay Berhe tSAEda just accomplished did no sit well with the MURDERER Isaias Afeworqi WHO ORDERED A SNIPER TO TERMINATE THE LIVE OF THE BRAVE TEGADALAY BERHE tSAEda.

            Those young innocent Eritreans paying homage to the sacred grounds of Nakfa and Sahel Abbay WILL INDEED BE TOLD WHO MURDERED THEIR TRUE HEROS SUCH as Harbegna Tegadalay Berhe tSAEda and Harbegna Tegadalay Fisehaye “Joshua” tSAEda!
            Betri HaQui tQeTinn Kimber Aytisiberinn iyya.

            MHrett sii neAkha yewridelka Nitricc SeraQui QeTTaffi! zeyTariKh natka Ayttitrekh. Nab gubuE wanatatuu izzi tarkh kmilesinn kitChibetinn iyyu. It ain’t your history you thief! NkhaliEka sheQuiTelu! Go fool someone else. tSAtSE knows who the TRUE OWNERS OF THIS SACRED HISTORY ARE! THE MURDERER WILL HANG! MARK MY WORDS!

            JOSHUA!

            tSAtSE

          • For Nitricc the thief,

            So that you know whose’ history you and your murdering dictator have stolen:

            Berhe tSAEda! The TRUE LION of Nakfa:
            HaQegna Tarikh NaQfa:
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7VyJaSDTbg

            JOSHUA!

            tSAtSE

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear GitSAtSE.

            I enjoy this history while I was on bed hospitalized. I am sure most Awate participants will love this story..I am enjoying those posts more than before those days…

            Berhe tSAEda, I think he is the link for those ELF and EPLF fighters and all of us by now…very interesting history..can you tell us more?

            KS,,,
            ,

          • Dear Kokhob Selam,

            Very glad to see you victorious in your health battle. You are indeed
            my personal Kokhob!

            Here is another link for you as you have requested. Joshua was the most qualified Eritrean liberation fighter to be Eritrea’s leader and head of state. The travesty and the murderous regime killed the nation with this brave fighter. The murderer psychotic dictator Isaias Aforqi feared him so much so he cowardly stole this light of Eritrea from the very deserving people.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri2Y2sm_ZiI

            Take good care of yourself Kokhobay Selamna. This is very likely my last post for a while. It is nosiating amongst some whose priority is monitising and polishing their personal ego.

            JOSHUAQ

            tSAtSE

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Kokhobay,

            Wish you fast recovery. Focus on your health my dear. The Eritrean politics will go nowhere.

            rergards

          • መሃንድስ-ምዕባለ

            ንኮኾባይ ናይ ጀበና
            ምሉእ ጥዕና ክትህበልና
            ዩ’ ጸሎትና ትምኒትና
            ሰላምን ጥዕናን ንዓኻ!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Solomon,

            You are on message. Just avoid insulting. It does not help to your good argument.

            regards

          • Nitricc

            For Nitricc the thief,

            Hey Tsatse; i just wanted to have the last word and i will leave you to your own devices. For me, this Eritrean thing is a double edge sword. in one hand I am intrigued and motivated beyond words the by the history of Eritrea and the braveness of her people. It is simply one amazing history and i want nothing but to contribute whatever i can for those brave people and country. On the other hand, it is a curse observing people like yourself so selfish and greedy they who want to capitalize at the expense of the real people who did everything for the honer of their people and country. I have always wondered why people like your self, who’re in the west, leaving comfortably and educating their children while paying their taxes to foreign country worry so much about things doesn’t concern them. it is one thing to be concerned and trying to help your people and country in a positive way and it entirely different thing to defame and obliterate for people who are trying to their best to make their country a viable country. I can understand if the people who live inside the country, if they had to say whatever they wanted to say because they are living it for the better and worst but for people like you who are chosen to leave the country and wanted to get fat to say anything else. I understand many of you just wanted to go home and show off your slavery gained shiny materials, i get that but you could have done that by paying your 2% and followed what the government outlined. The problem is you wanted to go home but you don’t want to contribute what the law of land required for. It is immoral in every way and you should be ashamed of yourself. I have only my parents to blame for introduced me in to this mess.

          • Nitric,

            Here you go again blabbering about things you have obsoletely zero knowledge about. No you may not and will not have the last word. Everything you wrote up top is garbage! Maybe you were born in the west and comfortably living with your father and mother and was spoiled rotten and instructed to help poor old folks in dire need of lots of things. Thats your perspective. As for me it was not the case my entire family that is everybody was taken from me to liberate the land you think is a pet project. The solace, which I accepted, was it was all a sacrifice for liberty and justice. I thought it was a fare trade UNTIL I REALIZED IT WAS ALL FOR THE BENEFIT OF KIDNAPPING MURDERING PSYCHOTIC DICTATOR ISAIAS AFEWORQI. JUSTICE THE MOST IMPORTANT AND ESSENTIAL NECESSITY THE ERITREAN PEOPLE WERE DEPRIVED AFTER I PERSONALLY HAVE SACRIFICED MY ENTIRE IMMEDIATE FAMILY. Can you do the math now bird brain. The Eritrean people do need you to contribute absolutely NOTHING! You pompous self righteous jerk. The Eritrean people are perfectly capable of providing for themselves and innovating and create much more than your pompous pious could add to their needs in a million years. Justice! Standing for justice! is the one and only thing any being could be supportive for Eritreans. Yet here you are aggrandizing and sanctifying a proven SERIAL KIDNAPPER MURDERER PSYCHOTIC DICTATOR ISAIAS AFEWORQI. Please do not compare tSAtSE with parasitic leaches such as yourself who are continuously exerting a thousand tons of pressure by sitting and the psychotic sadistic murdering dictator’s lap as he crushes every innocent Eritrean’s neck unfortunately within his grip pinned under his boots.
            Where do you get off calling me selfish? You cockroach leach! You thing you are cute by keeping a pink piggy bank you put aside a brown penny every day for your mere three dollars and sixty five cents annual contributions towards the dictator’s coffers. You think it is not known to tSAtSE that you spend a thousands times more on your personal entertainment and alcohol consumption and flashy designer clothing etc.. having orgies with similar brats like yourself every year. Get off your high horse thinking and believing you have contributed towards the well being for Eritrea and Eritreans. Fact of the matter is that YOU AND YOUR LIKES HAVE BEEN THE GREATEST LIABILITY FOR ERITREANS. SPOILED BRATS NEXT TO ILLITERATE, CONSIDERING THE OPPORTUNITIES YOUR SILVER SPOON CIRCUMSTANCES. YOU ARE NOTHING BUT KIDNAPPERS MURDERERS FANATIC WORSHIPERS OF YOUR PSYCHOTIC GOD DICTATOR ISAIAS AFEWORQI. You are nothing but a murderer and a kidnapper and a spoiled Nitricc bratty kid. It ain’t cute yo! This is tSAtSE sleeping soundly for figuring you and your sadistic god from day one. You cockroach leach. And NO YOU MAY NOT AND WILL NOT HAVE THE LAST WORD! THE LAST WORDS ARE: YOUR PSYCHO KIDNAPPER MURDERER DICTATOR ISAIAS AFEWORQI WILL HANG! WILL HANG!

            JOSHUA!

            tSAtSE

          • Nitricc

            Hi Tsatse; Again I say, I will have the last word, you don’t. I am sorry but I don’t believe a word you said. I have watched many videos of you going bananas exhibiting a classic case of bipolarities. I could have posted them and see the forum for themselves but I remembered the maxim that read “fight with one hand” so, I let it go. I called you selfish because you are, if the whole blood line of yours was taken from you, why are you here? What are you doing here getting drunk and going psychotic in the forums? If half of what you are saying happened to me; I will set the world on fire, I will not be going around forums drunk and talk nonsenses. Again how can we know you are telling the truth with your conditions? What you are telling us is what you think it happened but not actually happen. It is Crisp definition of the case bipolarities. the last word!!!!

          • Nitricc,

            There is no “if” about it. Certainly all has happened but instead of getting mad, mentally unbalanced or disordered with bipolar or schizophrenia etc… I am at the peak of my health physically, mentally and spiritually. Yes you are right! You must have given me the same suggestion awhile back AND I am doing just that: gathering all the firewood and KUBO cow dung such as yourself to BURN YOUR PSYCHOTIC KIDNAPPER MURDERER SADIST DICTATOR ISAIAS AFEWORQI. I agree and you can have the last word for today: NO IF, certainly happened :- “If half of what you are saying happened to me; I will set the world on fire” Will do just that don’t worry your psycho will be asked for his “last words” at the burning and of course like a parrot as in the past present at that moment you will repeat DIA’s last words as yours– And that will mark your LAST WORD. Ajokha Habromay!

            JOSHUA!

            tSAtSE

    • Teodros Alem

      Selam Saay7
      The eprdf social media groups, also known as “facebook dogs” also doing exact same thing.
      when it comes to ethiopia related topics, morethan 95% of the time they r the one all over social media for the same reason that u mentioned above.
      and i also believe there r eritreans working as a facebook dogs of eprdf.
      Note, am not the one who call them facebook dogs, it is eprdf itself call them attack, guard, barking and so on dog.

      • saay7

        Selamat Teodros:

        I didn’t know that but it doesn’t surprise me.

        What I tell my Ethiopian friends when they narrate such stories is that given the differences in the sizes of the two countries, the impact of their policies on the people is not the same. A predatory Ethiopian State and a predatory Eritrean State don’t have the same destructive impact on their people. It’s entirely possible for an Ethiopian who wants nothing to do with politics can have a somewhat unmolested life. Not in Eritrea. The State begins its conditioning that the people belong to it from middle school “Maetot”, takes them over at 16-17 when they attend Sawa High School, and it never lets go. Such a State is more likely to invest more (per capita) to its “national security apparatus” which, in the end, is where all the social media reports from the trolls (paid and volunteers) end up in.

        Speaking of dogs, I recently learned that the “digital weyane” phrase the Eritrean trolls repeat as an insult to their compatriots was coined as a praise by Dr Debrersion to flatter the pro-TPLF Ethiopian writers? If that’s true, you can tell that our trolls are just parrots and order-takers: their lives have no meaning until someone is telling them what to say and do.

        saay

  • Mahmud Saleh

    Selam All
    Internet troll definition: “In Internet slang, a troll is a person who starts quarrels or upsets people on the Internet to distract and sow discord by posting inflammatory and digressive,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the intent of provoking readers into displaying emotional responses[2] and normalizing tangential discussion,[3] whether for the troll’s amusement or a specific gain. ” Wikipedia.
    I believe it is not helpful to designate participants who do not agree with your viewpoint as internet trolls. However, in a situation where verifiability is not required, a troll is whatever the host site believes is a troll. I’m afraid such a decision will make it easy to silence voices the hosting party does not want to be around. Hence, it is a matter of fairness that AT looks into this matter from both sides. There are abusive individuals on both sides; there are individuals who consistently try to derail threads by injecting irrelevant issues into the discussions. There are also those who contribute nothing but one-liner disparaging remarks.
    I am OK with passionate debates. I choose not to reply to irritating personal attacks unless they are relevant to the discussion. I continue to address people with dignity. But I will never give in on principles I hold so dearly nor am I going to flutter on defending them. I agree that individuals who disrupt the flow of ideas should be shown the gate.
    Coming to the substance in this edition of Gedab News, FB issued a statement, an excerpt of which reads “We removed 259 Facebook accounts, 102 Facebook Pages, five Facebook Groups, four Facebook Events and 17 Instagram accounts for engaging in coordinated inauthentic behavior that originated in the UAE and Egypt and focused on a number of countries, primarily in the Middle East and some in North and East Africa, including Libya, Sudan, Comoros, Qatar, Turkey, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan and Morocco.”
    There is no mention of Eritrea. And it does not appear Eritrea is implied.
    Facebook removes trolls and accounts periodically; it is not new. Anyone can google “Facebook removes accounts,” you may substitute “accounts” with “trolls,” and you will get tones of results.

    It is conceivable that PFDJ has trolls, the same way that TPLF is flooding the internet with its trolls. Nevertheless, I have not found any information tying Eritrea to any country in coordinating “internet troll” campaigns. What I know is that there is a heated engagement going on between the trolls of the Qatari government, on one side, and Saudi Arabia and the UAE on the other hand to influence the Arab public and the USA and European lawmakers.
    ——————————————————
    https://newsroom.fb.com/news/2019/08/cib-uae-egypt-saudi-arabia/

    • Peace!

      Hi Mahmud

      It sounds በትረይ ሃቡኒ ዘሕምቖ ኣለኒ I am sure you would not even think of doing that to PFDJ or to PFDJ mouth pieces despite they have denied you everything you fought and bled for. The obvious fact is that one can’t be in a position to help others define TROLL while praising trolls.

      Peace!

    • Ismail AA

      Selam ustaz MS,
      It’s fine you became first to comment under this thread. It suggests (to me) many things. You cared to end your rejoinder by not missing to tell the reader here that Eritrea has not been mentioned in the list. But I think it is clear that the regime is fringe benefactor as the Pencil edition has elaborated.

      • Mahmud Saleh

        Selam IsmailAA
        People can go to the original source of the news, We are living in the 21st century. Also, it would be misguided to think that you are the only outlet. It may worked when you were representing your organization in Damascus in the 70s, but no more. I simply put forth facts. If you have any link that says “Eritrea is coordinating its troll operations with the UAE, Saudi Arabia, or both, please let me know. If were a real troll, I would not speak openly and boldly, which would be worsening the situation where I could be flagged by the operators of the website. No, I’m not. I’m here because I chose to be here. Engage me respectfully, and I will reciprocate it.
        Regards.

        • Ismail AA

          Selam ustazna MS,

          See you’re pretty angry. Why should you jump to respect-disrespect tirade? I always respected you; I shall do the same in future, too. By the way, who told you I “represented [my] organization in Damascus in the 70s”?. If I were angry like you did, I would have retorted back in the way you did. I would have said you have lied; but I know it is due to anger that made you rush to think a function for me in the past. Anyway, never mind; if I were you, I would not feel “flagged by the operators” of this forum, and because as you stated we all come here to engage with cool minds, don’t we?

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Ahlen UstazAA
            Thank you for the reply. The gist of the message is that we are living in adifferent age, inforation age compared yo the one-way flow of information you practiced when you dessiminated news to agencied, back in the seventies. We are talking about news and information gathering. To my,undetstanding you worked in the Information bureau of ELF in Damascus. If not accurate, just correct me and move on. And chill out. Why would speculate why I became the first person to write a comment under this topic? Anyway, suffice to say that I’m not angry. Stay cool.

          • Ismail AA

            Selam MS,
            Fine you calmed down; actually it was you who had to “chill out”. I did not speculate your being first to comment under this current thread; I just saw you was the first, which you shouldn’t have to read much in it. I also become first to comment under a few of the articles.

    • Hope

      Selam Gheyyad:
      Enjoy:
      https://youtu.be/tFaWDqjIkRY

  • Lamek

    Dear AT: great information. But after a couple months of absence, I drafted a comment earlier today or yesterday but for a reason unbeknownst to me, it said that I had been blocked. It concerns me greatly that having followed your posting guidelines without fail as far as I know, I was still blocked. I am editing to appreciate that the ban on me has been lifted apparently. By the way, I agree that there are PFDJ trolls on facebook for sure. I know an individual, more or less illiterate but what is written on his facebook page completely blows my mind away because it is well articulated of course PFDJ propaganda.