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Who is More Racist?

“He that is without sin among you, let him first cast stone at her.” John 8:7

One random Saturday morning, I was having a cup of coffee with a friend in a Starbucks stores. As usual, I was having my black coffee Grande, which is the medium size by Starbucks standards, with a little of sugar. As much as I love to sip  it, I still can’t stand coffee without sugar. My friend was having small size coffee cup; we were not talking about anything in particular. He was just telling me about the new job that he got until suddenly, our conversation turned into something serious.

It started when my friend noticed that a couple of customers changed a table  after another one sat right close to where the  customers were sitting. Apparently, my friend was curious and attentively paying attention to what was going on a few feet away from us while talking to me. Multitasking? Maybe!

He suddenly said, “This White people are so racist! Did you see what the couple did when the black man sat near them? It was a rhetorical question, of course. I asked him what happened, and he said, “as soon as the black man sat near the table where the white couple was sitting, the white couple got up and changed their seat just to be far from the new comer”. He ended by saying, “this is ridiculous!”.

I was truly mesmerized by the intensity of his anger and disbelief. I asked him how he could be sure that the reason why the couple moved away was based on racism. He said, simply because he could see and tell. Of course, I did not share his views. I simply thought his conclusion was based on a preconceived notion that all, or most, White people tend to be racist. I did not say much about the whole thing and tried to switch the conversation to some trivial topic.

However, a few minutes latter, I saw another couple, both men, walking towards the same table where the previous couple was sitting. It was then that I really wanted to see what was going to happen. It happens that the arriving couple went ahead and, after exchanging the usual pleasantries,  joined “the racist couple” in the same table.  Again, it was then that I understood the reason why the previous couple (a young girl and a man, both in their mid-twenties) had switched a table. I could not help it but laugh aloud and ask my friend if he still believes that the reason why the first couple moved to another table was because of racism. Then I said “you see, we tend to jump into a conclusion and make a mistake. You thought the lovely couple had a sinister motive for changing their table. When in fact, as you see, it was most probable it was because they just had a call and realized their friends were coming to join them. And it so happened that the timing of their table change happened right after the lonely black guy arrived and sat beside them. You, however, being a typical Habesha, opted to just think of the worst. You did not even want to give them the benefit of the doubt”.

I finished my sort of lecture by saying to my friend, “this is one of ‘our Habesha’ problem. We think of ourselves as righteous and always correct, when, to the contrary, we are the ones who most of the time find ourselves on the wrong side.” I continued, “let me tell you one thing that has been bothering me for a long time, and I have been struggling with myself with that dilemma for quite some time now. You see, my dear friend, when it comes to racism, I believe we the Habesha are actually  the most vicious and culpable in the whole world”.  Obviously he was not pleased with what I said because everything that I said contradicted with the belief he held for too long regarding the pureness and awesomeness of being an Habesha. He was sort of offended that I said “we were the most racist people on earth”. He countered by saying,  “How dare you say that? Are we not the most welcoming and peaceful people in the world? Have you even considered the fact that any ferenj can live in Ethiopia or Eritrea, for that matter, without being singled out? Did you forget that many people love the fact that we are always smiling? And, guess what, our smile is the most genuine of all smiles. Gebrieln new yemilh!

I acknowledged some of the points that he brought but I did accept that our smile is truly genuine. When an Habesha smiles, it is always for real. We do not know a fake smile.  “I give you that!”  I said.  But I was in a mood to argue with my friend of many years on this subject. However, there has always been something that I wanted to get out of my chest, and I started saying  “but..”,  he did not let me finish what I was about to say. He interrupted me (typical of Habesha trait) and said, “ Oh no,  there is no ‘but’, everything I said is true”. Of course, we Habesha hate to be proven wrong.

After some consideration, I wanted to let go and just enjoy my coffee. But, my friend would not let it go and he kept arguing about everything from how America is considered the most racist nation after Germany. I was bewildered how he brought up Germany in in the conversation. I asked him if he ever been to Germany  (because I have).  He countered by stating that was not the point.  Again, typical Habesha- not sticking to the point. He argued about the genocide during WWII. I tried to explain to him that the current German generation is quite different and very welcoming, again, because I lived there and I know them. No, that did not matter to my friend. It became clear to me now that it is usually a difficult endeavor to make substantive argument is discussions with Habesha. There are very few people that I truly enjoy discussing with on any matter (my friends Dr Assefa and Teddy I love you for that and more). Do you see my point? I even sidetracked from the initial point. My point was that we the Habesha are not blameless when it comes to racism. Maybe we are the worst.

Before I continue, let me try to define what racism is:

  • According to Cambridge Dictionary racism is “the belief that some races are better than others, or the unfair treatment of someone because of his or her race.
  • Or according to the American Heritage College Dictionary, racism has two meanings. This resource first defines racism as, “The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others” and secondly as, “Discrimination or prejudice based on race.”
  • According to Wikipedia racism is the belief in the superiority of one race over another, which often results in discrimination and prejudice towards people based on their race or ethnicity. The use of the term “racism” does not easily fall under a single definition.[1]

As human beings, besides the fact that we consider one race has better ability than the other, we also believe that one race is better looking than the other, or has better hair than the other, etc. Is this not the case in Ethiopia and Eritrea? How many times have each of us uttered phrases like “Inezih tiquroch eko…”, in a derogatory way,  to refer to any black person? How many of us have referred to people mostly from the southern part of our country, and to African-Americans,  or to Black Africa, “Yihe Bariya” (literally meaning-this slave!), or  “Yihe kinki ras”?

Let’s be honest! Have we not uttered these and more sinister words towards our own African brothers simply because they look slightly different than us at least once in our lives? Even worse, we make fun of them simply because their noses are not as straight as ours?

Are we not hostile to each other simply because we are of a different ethnic group? Is it not true that Eritreans call Amara “Adgi” and the Tigreans “Agame”. The Amaras call the Tigre “ Anbeta belita, Chigaram etc..” The Tigre call the Amara “neftegna, lazy etc..”  The Amara call the Oromo “ Gala, dula teshekami, bale boti chama, Gimatam etc..” Or, the Amara calling Eritreans “ Ye Talian ashker”. Even worse yet, we call our African brothers “ Enezih bariyawoch sigemu eko!” And so on and on! That is a definition of racism, admit it!!

I remember how one of our family friends reacted when her daughter brought her boyfriend to introduce him to her parents. She literally fainted, seriously. That was because the boyfriend was an African-American. This kind of sentiment is abundant among us, the Habesha – Ethiopians and Eritreans alike.

I have also been guilty of the above occasionaly. I have said these offensive words before I realized how ugly and racist they were. I only hope that I will never say these awful things anymore!

Therefore, my Habesha brothers and sisters, stop being hypocrites and stop complaining about racism here in the USA, which , according to my understanding,  is a lot better than what we see in our own countries.

Those at the top of society fan ideas of nationalism and racism that divide the people. Sometimes, those who hold such traits do not even have to be at the top, they actually are in the middle and hungry for some kind of power through creating animosity and discord between two people, usually of different ethnic groups. Without going through more details, let me just state that this is what is happening right now in our beloved country.

Racism is not based only on skin color or ethnic background; there is also a form of racism related to religious beliefs. I also strongly believe that It is racist to suggest that one religion is right and all others are not. Does this ring a bell, my dear brothers and sisters? I know a family who disavowed their only daughter simply because she joined the protestant church. How many of us are comfortable eating in a house of a Muslim, if we are a Christian and vis-versa?  Yes, let’s be honest: we are among the most racist people on earth. How many of our sisters have been outcasted from the community they love because they got married to a black person?  So, ask yourselves, who is more racist? Are we not?

submitted by TeKa.

 

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  • Hope

    Hello All:
    It is so EASY to get rid off Racism, Regionalism, Bigotry, Religionism as well discrimination of any kind .
    Here is an Excerpt from/of an Ethiopian young MD’s Eye Witness Accounts.
    ” ትዝብተ -ኤርትራ : ፩ ”
    _______♥♥♥______
    ኤርትራ የትላንቷ ??? የአሁኗ ራሷን የቻለች ሉዋላዊት ሀገር በ6 ዞባ ተከፍላ 3.4 ሚሊዮን ህዝቦቿን ታስተዳድራለች። በጤናው በኩል ሁለት ናሽናል ሪፈራል ሆስፒታል ( ሀልቤት እና ኦሮታ ) ፣ 1 ቲቺንግ ሆስፒታል ( ኦሮታ) እንዲሁም የየዞባ ማዕከል ሪፈራል ሆስፒታል ፣ በዞባ ውስጥ ደግሞ ኮሚኒቲ ሆስፒታሎች አሏት። እንደ መልካም አጋጣሚ በምረቃ ስነ -ስርዓታችን በተገኙት የሁለቱ ሀገራት መሪዎች ስምምነት መሰረት 35 ጠቅላላ ሐኪሞች ( 26 ወንዶች እና 9 ሴቶች) ለ2 ወር የነፃ ህክምና አገልግሎት ሰጥተን እንድንመለስ እድል አግኝተን ሰጥተን ተመልሰናል። ከዚህ የሄድነው ሐኪሞች አገልግሎት የሰጠነው ከነዚህ ውስጥ በ9 ሆስፒታሎች ተከፋፍለን ነበር።( ደቀመሐሪ፣ መንደፈራ፣ ጊንዳዕ፣ ከረን፣ ቤት-መኻህ፣ ዕዳጋ-ሐሙስ፣ ሓዝሓዝ፣ ሃልቤት እና ኦሮታ ) ።
    ……..
    ታዲያ በ2 ወር ቆይታችን ውስጥ የታዘብኩትን መልካም ነገር ማስታወስ ፈለኩ።
    ፩. ኤርትራ አስተማማኝ ሰላም ያለባት ሀገር ናት ።
    ማንኛውም ሰው ሴትም ይሁን ወንድ በየትኛውም ጊዜ ይሁን ሰዓት ፣ ቀንም ይሁን ሌሊት ያለምንም ስጋት በነፃነት መንቀሳቀስ ይችላል።
    ………
    ፪. ሌብነት በሁሉም ዘንድ ፀያፍ ነው። ይህ በመሆኑ ማንም ሰው ንብረቱ ያልሆነ ነገር ወድቆ ቢያገኝ እንኳ አንስቶ ለራሱ አይወስድም። እቃ ሲገበያዩም በሐቂ ነው።
    ……
    ፫. ብሔር ከባህል-ውበት ማሳያ ያለፈ መከፋፈያ አይደለም። በሀገሪቱ 9 ብሔሮች ቢኖሩም እያንዳንዱ ብሔር ያለውን የሚጠቅም ባህል እና እሴት ከማስተዋወቅ ባለፈ በፍፁም ለንትርክ አይጠቀሙበትም። በአንድ ዞባ ማዕከል ውስጥ 5 ብሔሮች ያለምንም መጠላለፍ ተዋህደዉ በፍቅር ይኖራሉ።( ለምሳሌ ጋሽ ባርካ ዞባ ማዕከል)
    ……
    ፬. እርስ በእርስ ያለው መተዛዘን እና መደጋገፍ ልዩ ነው። ይህ በመሆኑ ተአምር በሚመስለን መልኩ ኑሮን አሸንፈውታል። ይህ ጉዳይ በጣም ሲገርመን የቆየ ነው።
    ……
    ፭. ሁሉም ሰው ለስራ የሚሰጠው ዋጋ እና ክቡርነት ይገርማል። ሁሉም ሰው ስራውን በሚገባ አክብሮ ይሰራል። እድሜ እና ስራ ፣ ስራ እና ፆታ ምናምን ብሎ እሳቤ የለም ። የ70 እና 80 ዓመት አዛውንት ከሚገርም ዲስፒሊን ጋር የሆቴል (ሬስቶራንት) አስተናጋጅ ሁኖ ሲሰራ፣ ሊስትሮ ሲሰራ ፣ ሎተሪ ሲያዞር ወዘተ…የመሳሰሉ ነገሮችን ሳይ ለእኔ የተለየ ስሜት ሰጥቶኛል።
    ……
    ፮. ስልጣን የተለየ ከበሬታ አያስገኝም።(??? በክፊል ይመስለኛል)
    ….
    ከፍተኛ ባለስልጣናቱ (ፕሬዘዳንቱን ጨምሮ) የሚኖሩት ኑሮ ከሌላው ህዝብ ጋር የተለየ አይደለም። ፕሬዘዳንት ኢሳያስ ሳይቀር የሚኖረው ከሌላው ህዝብ ጋር ተጎራብቶ በግል-ቤቱ ነው። ባለስልጣን ማጀብም የለም።ይህም ሚኒስትሮችን ብቻቸውን በጎዳና ላይ እንደ ማንኛውም ግለሰብ በነፃነት ሲንቀሳቀሱ ፣ በየትኛውም ሆቴል ይሁን ሬስቶራንት እንደማንኛውም ሰው ያለምንም አጀባ ሲገቡ እና ሲወጡ ሳይ ተገረምኩ።
    ፯. ከወታደራዊ ስርዓቱ ጋር ተያይዞ ይሁን ምን እርግጠኛ ባልሆንም ህዝቦቹ በአካል ብቁ፣ በተክለ-ቁመና ሽንቅጥ፣ በአብዛኛው ለስራ የሚንቀሳቀሱት ደግሞ በእግር እና ሳይክል ነው።
    …..
    በአጠቃላይ ይህን ካልኩ ስለ ጤና አሰጣጥ ያለውን ጠንካራ ጎን በይደር ልመለስበት !”
    Source: TN.Com

    • Lamek

      Hi Hope. Yep, all of this is in spite of the extraordinarily incompetent governance not because of it. One of the exemplary things he saw was the people use their diversity with great respect ለንትርክ አይጠቀሙበትም። Where is ንትርክ፣ now.

    • Mez

      Dear Hope,
      a very good summary of a two short month observations.

      There was no observation noted on any occational lively discussion on political and social current happenings or/and future challenges. This portion is totally omitted; it is unhealthy.

      When you see the whole picture of this observer, it looks like Eritrea is in an obstinately quite stage, probably just before the powerfull storm hits head on.

      But as a nation, the good message of the observer is: the country is on a stable base.

      Thanks

      • Hope

        Selam Mez:
        U said:
        “There was no observation noted on any occational lively discussion on political and social current happenings or/and future challenges. This portion is totally omitted; it is unhealthy”.
        but then u also said:
        “But as a nation, the good message of the observer is: the country is on a stable base.”,which you correctly grasped.
        I thought U missed the coded message of the young MD but cute observer and mine as well:
        “Despite all the hassles,oppression,challenges,mis-governance,etc…and what not,Eritreans have proven themselves and to the world time again that they have survived and can survive any tsunami or challenges under the sun,which they do NOT deserve to go thru,BTW, due to their steel hard discipline,work ethics and commitment as well as WELL EARNED EXPERIENCE DUE TO THE HARDSHIP THEY HAVE GONE THROUGH OUT A CENTURY OF LONG AND HARD JOURNEY.
        they will definitely survive and come out WINNERS the current challenge and hardship as well.

    • Ismail AA

      Selam Hope,

      Not sure what message this post wanted to deliver. If it meant as prove that all is roses in the Garden of Eden in Eritrea as the Ethiopian has reported, Eritreans, who are aware of how the regime has been dexterous since its days in Sahel in stage managing guided tours, would not be enamored and flattered to read this. They would in fact take it as an affront to their feelings, and an insult to their intelligence. After all, groups to which the MD belong are carefully assembled and dispatched to just say and write what the guy has reported. It is called PR and propaganda schemes dubbed people-to-people diplomacy.

      • Hope

        Selamat Saidna Ustaz Ismael wo Doctor Haile S:
        I agree with you but here is my and the Young MD’s message,which you seem to have misunderstood.:
        “Despite all the hassles,oppression,challenges,mis-governance,etc…and what not,Eritreans have proven themselves and to the world time again that they have survived and can survive any tsunami or challenges under the sun,which they do NOT deserve to go thru,BTW, due to their steel hard discipline, work ethics and commitment as well as WELL EARNED EXPERIENCE DUE TO THE HARDSHIP THEY HAVE GONE THROUGH OUT A CENTURY OF LONG AND HARD JOURNEY.
        “Hence,they will definitely survive and come out WINNERS the current challenge and hardship as well.”
        Ismael added saying:
        ‘After all, groups to which the MD belong are carefully assembled and dispatched to just say and write what the guy has reported. It is called PR and propaganda schemes dubbed people-to-people diplomacy
        I respectfully disagree as the good young MD is/was ONLY admiring and appreciating the well-disciplined Eritreans, not the regime.

    • Blink

      Dear Hope
      Some people who are weird can get heart attacks to read such witnesse , this is not news to most Eritreans , I mean Eritreans are self ruled , their manner as well as work ethic is simply great p. Remember some are not ready to accept any good news about Eritreans . You should warn them in advance. Can you imagine someone to connect this simply gut witness to Sahl ? I mean some people has problem but such kind of problem can’t be solved by insulting ELPLF or ELF .

    • Haile S.

      Selam Hope,

      The Excerpt was dead on the message! The best Excerpt written in the language of Gold and Wax par excellence, Amharic. It was deadly alive message. It succinctly delivered the unpronounceable without pronouncing a single word. What better tribute to those who lack the gasp to say a word.

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Selam Awatistas,

    I don’t visit the Facebook often. May be twice a month. Today, when the debate at the Awate forum slows down, I made a cursory view at it and found a quote posted by an Eritrean activist Kemal Ali. The quote is from a remark of the late PM of Ethiopia.

    “Isaias knows deep down to the Eritrean people, but the Eritrean people don’t know Isaias very well.”

    Very, very true!! Not only the Eritrean people don’t know him well, but there are people among us who tries to protect him from being known to the Eritrean people.

  • Semere Tesfai

    Selam Teka

    “We the Habesha are not blameless when it comes to racism. Maybe we are the worst.Therefore, my Habesha brothers and sisters, stop being hypocrites and stop complaining about racism here in the USA, which , according to my understanding, is a lot better than what we see in our own countries.”

    Few points here:

    1. – Prejudice Dictionary
    noun
    preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience.

    2. -Bias Dictionary
    noun
    prejudice in favor of or against one thing, person, or group compared with another, usually in a way considered to be unfair.

    3.Attitude Dictionary
    noun
    a settled way of thinking or feeling about someone or something, typically one that is reflected in a person’s behavior.
    synonyms: point of view, vantage point, frame of mind, way of thinking, way of looking at things, school of thought, outlook, perspective, reaction, stance, standpoint, position, inclination, orientation, approach…….

    4. – Racism Dictionary
    noun
    (a) prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one’s own race is superior.

    (b) the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.

    The point: When we try to explain something, the words we use matter – a lot. Although any individual person of any ethnicity or race is capable of doing harm to any other person, the degrees vary. Our attitudes, our bias, our prejudice, and our racist behaviour do inflict different levels of harm – depending on our position of power in a given society. Meaning, some are harmful while others are just harmless.

    And I believe that is what you (the author of this article) failed to see when you painted all Habeshas with a broad-brush.

    Semere Tesfai

  • Lamek

    Dear Author:

    Although I appreciate your effort to write a narrative story and then blend your story with an expository essay, I have to say I don’t agree with your understanding of the real concept of racism. I am a natural scientist myself and others may be better educated to explain this.

    Anyone can go look up in the history textbooks what racism means in the context of America. Or if one lives in the US, it should be clear what really racism means. I won’t go into a lengthy discussion but racism has important components such as influence, status, and authority. In addition, how can there be racism amongst individuals, ethnicities, social groups, countries, etc of the same race? Aren’t we all black? By all I mean Ethiopians and Eritreans. Amara, Wolayita, Tigre, etc. are not racial groups.

    What you describe is accurate to a certain extent but to classify it as racist is inaccurate. The situation in the Starbucks you described is what most people refer to as reverse racism but a lot of black Americans do not believe reverse racism exists because only white people have always had power.

    The bias among Ethiopian and Eritrean social groups may be described as prejudice. An Amara maybe prejudiced against Tigrayans and vice versa. If there is an institutional nature to it and is associated with power, then we may call it systemic ethnic inequality. In the US, school districts that serve mostly white students received 23 billion more in funding than districts that serve mainly minority students in 2016. That is what racism is – it is systemic and institutional, which creates disparities in communities and neighborhoods. Thinking that I am better than the next black person because I have a fair skin or ‘nicer’ hair is prejudice and ignorance really.

    Most Eritreans and Ethiopians do not want their children to marry outside their ethnic groups, certainly not outside their race simply because they have this idea of purity and preserving their long held customs and belief systems. We are the same race as black Americans (I mean those that have been here for hundreds of years) but we have very different value systems. It is not the race most parents have the issue with, it is the value system, the religion, the language, the customs, and the overarching culture. You can’t blame them.

    • Selam Lamek,

      Thanks for the good explanation you gave us about ‘habesha racism’ and ‘racism in america’. If i may ask you, do you think that the habesha ‘prejudice’ and ‘value system’ would have remained strictly the same if it were about a white man or woman, as much as marriage is concerned?

      • Lamek

        Hi Horizon, if I understand you correctly, you are asking if the subject (seeking to marry a habesha man or woman) were a white person, would it make any difference relative to the subject being a non-Ethiopian/Eritrean black person? That would be a good question. This is where Taka should have talked a little bit more. Why do Eritreans/Ethiopians see other blacks as inferiors to them? One really obvious factor is the media. We all know how blacks are portrayed in western media. Also, like Taka said, there is this thing called baryawoch. I do not have a scientific theory on this but our preconceptions of other blacks are negative and my personal opinion is that due to lack of education in this area, we tend to choose the lesser of two evils. I can be wrong but most Eri/Ethios (in particular the habeshas) if presented with the major headache of their children marrying outside their ethnicity/social group, I would say the first thing that comes to their mind is tselim trah keykewn (tiqur bicha endayhon). But I like to see what others may have to say about this, specially Taka.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Lemak,

          The Ethio/Eritrean preconceptions on other blacks can not be of “lack of education”only, b/c the same social illness are also exhibited on the educated class in a camouflaged attitudes. So it is more than lack of education. The answer is in your earlier response, that it is a reflection of our embedded value system whether your are educated or uneducated, only the educated reflect them in a subtle way.

          • Lamek

            Hi Aman, by educated, I meant awareness on the subject (not formal education). Every time I use the word education, it creates confusion.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear Lamek,

            Even then. Awareness does not change your embedded value system. Awareness might help to relegate them into “recessive mode” only.

    • Hashela

      Hi Lamek

      Do Eritreans and Ethiopians have common values?
      Especially, when it comes to honest and integrity?

      • Lamek

        Hi Hashela, frankly, I do not want to pretend like I am an expert in this field and in reading a lot of your comments, I would think you know a lot more about this than I do.

        The answer to your question in general is yes. Nearly all Ethiopian and Eritrean subcultures attempt teach us to respect our elderly, to not be selfish, to share with others who have less, to love our neighbors, to support those in need, to learn and master our languages, to keep our foods authentic, etc.

        Honesty and integrity may be embedded in the value systems such that if your society teaches you the above values, you have to have honesty and integrity to be able to honor those values. However, I would say honesty and integrity may be more of personal traits than taught by society. Having said that, like Taka said, most of our ethnic and social groups have preconceived generalized opinions about other groups. We read here day in and day out such prejudices against Tigrayans. I am guilty of such prejudices too if you read my posts.My disagreement with Taka is to label this racist. I think it is the wrong term.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Lamek,

          What is difficult to label a “racist” for a racist? Otherwise, I can’t agree more to your concise answer to the subject.

          • Hashela

            Amanuel
            Don’t we ALL harbor a little bit of racism and prejudice deep in us. Has it do with the survival and dominance instinct that we brought from the Rift Valley some 5-3 million years?

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hashela,

            YES. If I can use a biological metaphor, that racism and prejudice do exhibit as “recessive” with some of us and as “dominant” with the rest of us. As to your historical reference from the Rift Valley, I don’t know. You can enlighten us, dear.

          • Hashela

            Amanuel

            “exhibit as “recessive” with some of us and as “dominant” with the rest of us”

            Excellent!!

          • Hashela

            Amanuel
            time permitting I can write a bit about the role of climate, geomorphology (landscape) and tectonics that co-shaped the hominin evolution in the Rift Valley.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hashela,

            “ጎጎ ብኽዖ ወይ ክአ ጥጥቖ using stable isotope chemistry.”

            Thank you for giving me the day ending laugh. I enjoy your engagement.

        • Hashela

          Lamek

          thank you for your measured response to my (maybe provocative) question. I am aslo not a social scientist. Like you, my expertise falls within the natural sciences.

          That said, the common values you mentioned are universal, i.e. they are not specific to Eritreans and Ethiopians.

          Firstly, when the people south of the Mereb River claim that we (Eritreans and Ethiopians) share common values, they mean people from Kebesa in Eritrea and Tigrayan and AmHra in Ethiopia. It is not inclusive but divisive.

          Secondly, when Ethiopians emphasize our commonality or brotherhood/sisterhood, it nearly alway associated with their dream of “re-unification” and territorial claim that legaly does not belong to them.

          • Lamek

            Hashela,

            I have a question for you then (my turn). Based on your third paragraph above, one may then argue that there is no common Eritrean identity. If the lowlanders identify more with Sudanese people and the highlanders identify more with Ethiopian people, then what unifies Eritreans (of lowland and highland)? The obvious answer is Ghedli but it is hard to create a common identity in 30 years, it takes much longer. I think Sawa was created to expedite this but I am here to learn. What is your take?

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Lamek,

            In any multiethnic society “nationalism” create their common identity. Hence in our case, being inscribed in the land called Eritrea, “Eritreanism” is our common identity. As simple as that.

          • Hashela

            Amanuel

            thank you. I couldn’t say it better.

          • Lamek

            Selam Aman, I know we will not agree on this but that is the very question – does Eritreanism exist? I don’t think it does, at least not to the level that you and many others think it does. More work needs to be done. That is why we see so much fragmentation in our society. There is nothing binding us. There is no point to go into details because again I know we will not agree.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Lamek,

            I have no doubt the “spirit of Eritreanism” is still intact with in the Eritrean people. The problem with our fragmentation is emanated from the unfair political domination in the Eritrean political landscape that created the mistrust with in our social groups. If we establish a system that gives a “fair share” to all our social groups that eliminate marginalization, we could have not experienced with this fragmentation. The fragmentation has nothing to do with our identity problem. Absolutely none. But, if you say we don’t agree, time will help us as we go forward.

  • Teka

    Dear Ismael, thanks for strengthening my point. That what I was talking about. Thanks for sharing your experience.

  • Teodros Alem

    Selam teka
    1st, ur Starbucks story is a made up story in order to narrate ur false story, simply because ethiopians don’t see race the way u trying to tell it.
    2nd, u r a topical example of woyanes who see and interpret anything about ethiopia through negative eyes.
    3rd, the world is attracted by nicer, smart, good and beautiful things, that is the fact , so being attractive or unattractive is nothing to do with race or racism, it is personal.
    4, hate and racism is two different things.

    • Brhan

      Hello Teodros,
      Do not judge because we are not here on a trial . if we are you have to prove by evidences.
      I can understand when we open can of worms , it is ugly. But it is truth.

      • Teodros Alem

        selam brhan
        1st i didn’t judge anything, 2nd i didn’t talk about we, so speak for urself, 3rd what i said is my experience and the truth about My ethiopia.

        • Brhan

          Hi Brhan,
          Either you are forgetting what you have said or you have not got my point…you told Teka his story is “a made up story”…can you prove it….you see that why I told you we are not on a trial…meaning I , you , Teka..and others…I hope you got my point now

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam.brhan
            I already explain that, i said never experienced when ethiopians see race the way he narrated, because two Europeans change a site, the ethiopian guy think it is racism, that is a lie.

          • Brhan

            Hi Teddye

            Ok…and you told me ‘to speak of myself”…the same goes to you…’speak of yourself’ and not of Emiye Ethiopia …because it has millions of sons and daughters and you can not speak on behalf of them….when you point a finger to me three fingers were pointing at you

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam brhan
            I already told u, am talking about my ethiopia, which means the ethiopia i know and experienced throughout my life, i didn’t experience tigrai ethiopians so i don’t talk about them .
            U and teka do same thing, just speak for what u know and experience, don’t talk about we or on behalf of the whole of ethiopia.

          • Brhan

            Hi Teddy,
            What about Somali or Oromo or Guraghe or Afar Ethiopians ….

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam brhan
            I know oromo and guraga the same way i know amara, i know enough about somali and a little about afara(once upon a time i used to date a mixed afar/amara beautiful women).

    • Teka

      Selam Teodros, this is the writer of the article TaKa. I thank you for proving my point. Especially what I said in one of the paragraphs about us Habeshas not being good at taking criticism well. You obviously are on a denial. Whatever your good motives, by just denying our weaknesses, you are not helping “your Ethiopia” which happens to be mine to but, unfortunately has sons like you who jump on insulting others and who jump in to conclusions with no facts. In regards to the fact that we habeshas tend to be racist against our own people, is a fact since the birth of the nation. Why would you be offended when one tells you some ugly facts that,, most probably, you are guilty of too? No matter your insults by calling me a liar, I still accept you as my brother and i forgive you because forgiveness and love is the only way forward.
      TeKa.

      • Teodros Alem

        Selam teka
        habesha, whatever it means it is not we, it is diverse communities, ethnicity, religion, and as diverse it is , the experience and the practice on racism or on any issues r diverse too, so stop generalizing.

    • Teka

      Hi Teodros, And by the way, when you call Ethiopia “my Ethiopia” speaks volumes by itself. You remind me of the people here with a hat on their head that says “MAGA”. There is nothing wrong with loving ones country. However, when that love goes to the extreme, it unfortunately pushes ones emotion to the extreme as well and is usually manifested on some racist way. More often than none,those who cry ” emiye Ethiopia” are the typical example of racism. I shouldn’t wonder why you came with such ugliness to discredit my article. Wise people, reading this article, would wake up and would learn something from it. I guess you don’t belong to that group of people, sadly.
      I still love you!

      • Teodros Alem

        Selam teka
        Ur artical is full of lie and i already explain why to brhan and already explained what i meant by my ethiopia.
        In my ethiopia people don’t have clue about the racism that u talking about.
        In my ethiopia racism means favoring someone unfairly over other person just because he or she belongs to ur village, town, ethnicity and religion. That is the concept of racism in my ethiopia. and u r lying

    • Hayat Adem

      Teodros,
      I also don’t think Ethiopians and Eritreans are exceptionally racists. A d mistaking or misunderstanding an innocent intention of white couples don’t necessarily add up to become an inverse racist. Saying that, you are the last person to defend Ethiopians. And you exactly know why.

      • Teodros Alem

        Selam ms hayat a
        1st i wasn’t trying to defend ethiopia . i was just expressing myself. 2nd i believe ethiopia enemies can do nothing to harm her any more, they tried for 27 years and failed.
        3rd, out of curiosity, why u think am the last person to defend ethiopia?

        • Hayat Adem

          Teodros,
          I have more specific reasons but I will tell you this: because you should be the last person to defend any good purpose.
          Unless with a medical justification, any person who calls the Amara region and the Amhara people as gangrenous and tells us that Ethiopia would be better without them is a sick human being that should not be allowed into adult discussions.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam ms hayat a
            Who said that about amara? What r u talking about? Am not joking u need to see a doc or do something.
            The other day i saw u how u become paranoia and now …… Go do something about ur defeat triggered stress before …………..

          • Hayat Adem

            Teodros,
            So you believe and say Tigreans are gangrenous and you think you are sane?

          • Semere Tesfai

            Selem Hayat and Teodros

            Please stop it! The whole objective of people (including you and I) visiting this website is to learn, to add value to the discussion, and to bring people closer.

            Your back and forth discussion is neither adding value to the discussion nor bringing people closer. So please cool off and come back later. Thanks

            Semere Tesfai

          • Hayat Adem

            Hi SemereT,
            Thanks for this. I really understand your point. Please try to see my effort: I am only trying to spare you from the spoilers soiling this good forum.

  • Brhan

    Hello Awate:
    We can not forget a song that goes with the above article ;
    አስላማይ ክስታናይ
    ወዲ ቆላ ደጋ
    ንምኽሪ ወጻኢ አይትሃቦ ዋጋ
    ከይትኾን ዕዳጋ
    አተወብርሃን ሰጊድ

  • Ismail AA

    Hi Moderator(s),
    It’s now weeks Disqus puts my posts on hold as “pending”. I posted messages on this twice so far. Is there any way to tackle this?

    • Haile S.

      Selamat Ismail,

      ማይ ጨሎት ሓጂ ዓብደልቃድር ንንጸገሉ
      ጽሑፍካ ብሽሕር ተኣሲሩ ካይህሉ 🙂 🙂

      ቀደም ነይራ ማይ ጨሎት መንጎ ሓዝሓዝን ኣኽርያ
      በዓል ኣደይ ምስ ኣደይ ስዕዲ ሓቢረን ቡን ዝሰትያ

      ኣስላማይ ምስ ክርስትያን ብሓባር ዝጽልያሉ
      ካብ መርዘን ሕማም ቆርበት ተሓጺበን ዝድሕናሉ

      • Ismail AA

        ከመይ ቀኒካ ሃይለ፣
        እቶም ማይ ጸሎት ዝነጽጉ እንዶ ጠፊኦም። ዘረባይ ተሸጒራ ንሰብ ማይጸሎት ትጽበ ኣላ እሞ ደሃይ እንዶ ግበር።

    • Mez

      Greetings Ismail A,

      I assume your posting must be sweet like sweet-potato for the Disqus!

      • Ismail AA

        Selam Mez,
        I think there are sweeter postings than mine. But it should be terribly so angry to choose my poor words.

    • Ismail AA

      Dear moderator,
      Thank you very much for the note. I regret for not remembering the requirement you mentioned. I just thought about the context and intention of what I wanted to say. Perhaps I should have cared to choose other words and terms for saying or writing the same. Sorry again to you and the readers.

  • Paulos

    Selam My Good People,

    A recent video report says, Eritreans are going to Kahsay Aberra Hospital to seek medical treatment. No, no, you didn’t guess right. Kahsay Aberra hospital is not in:

    1. Sudan
    2. South Africa
    Or
    3. Singapore.

    Kahsay Aberra hospital is in Humera! This is what Eritrea is reduced to. Gone are the days when መካነ-ሂወት or ኢናይል hospitals offered competent medical treatments with highly skilled Physicians and Surgeons to Eritreans. What a pity!

    • Berhe Y

      Dear Paulos,

      This is people like tSAtST, Mahmud, Nitricc, Blink they do not get. IA is on a mission to destroy Eritrea and the people. This started with the closure of Asmara University, which use to produce a lot of bright students that peruse higher education including medicine but is replaced with mediocre colleges that have no accreditation. I know there will be some bright students who will make something out for themselves but the number is very small.

      I remember in the 80s, which I am sure you are very familiar Paulo arkey, when the Derg nationalized all the private schools (La Salle, Camboni, Petego, Santa Ana) which who private schools run by catholic churches (but were open to all) in the name of “equality by subtraction” they created a gap.

      Then I don’t know how, a women principle named Genet, convinced to setup one high school (Santa Ana) to be an excellence school and start to accept only students who scored over 88% in the grade 8 to go to that high school.

      4 years later, that high school scored the highest in Ethiopian matriculation and those students went to all Ethiopian university in big number. Soon they replaced that principle Memhir Genet and transferred her somewhere in Ethiopia, I don’t know what become of her (at least that’s what I heard). Later when I use to see Margarete Tacher, it use to remind me Memhir Genet.

      A year later the story repeated with the second batch. Soon the Education minister stopped the program and converted the high school to be normal high school like any other high schools to stop the excellence that it was producing.

      IA is on a mission to destroy Eritrean know how, be it in business, in education, in trade skills and replace them with zombies who are only good at serving him while they are around and become his slaves when they are abroad by controlling them.

      I remember during the Derg time, Eritrean use to refuse to be treated by Russian and Cuban doctors who the Derg send (we use to believe they come to learn and experiment on us, the rumor was, if they do appendix surgery for example, it will be big enough you can pull a ball out, while wedi Sila (Enail) was only three stitches).

      What a same…. regardless we should be proud and appreciate the Ethiopian hospitals who are treating our people.

      Berhe

      • Paulos

        Selam Berhino,

        Yes I remember the story, hope she is well, where ever she may be.

        Let me tell you this particular story about this extraordinary 18 years old Eritrean guy who was one of the brightest I ever knew. I believe it was in 85 or so, when he was about to start grade 12, he was called on or selected to be shipped out to do National Service, as you know, the service used to be known as ብሄራዊ ውትድርና.

        It was unfortunate that he couldn’t dodge it when they came to his house and took him away, I believe, it was to the Southern part of Ethiopia. His future and dream was shattered but an extraordinary person that he was, while he was at the training camp, he asked the Colonel if he could sit for the Matriculation exam and assured the Colonel that will be back to the camp the same day. Imagine, he had been away from school and all his studies for a long time but wanted to take the exam.

        As it happened, the Colonel saw something in the guy and allowed him to take the exam. And to the shocking surprise of the people in the camp including the Colonel, he got six “A”s and only one “B”. If this is not an extraordinary feat, I am not sure what is! These were the Eritreans with defiant and can-do spirit I knew and grew up with. And it breaks one’s heart, when one witnesses a complete reversal of fortune.

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Berhe,

        The concept of “equality by subtraction” the educational philosophy introduced back then during Derg , also reminds me the famous article “unity by subtraction” by YG to explain the nature of Eritrean politics. A very notable article by a notable writer.

      • Amanuel

        Hi Berhe
        I went to that school and I knew Genet personally as her sister was my class mate when I was at junior school. The man who replaced her was also a father figure and good human being.

        You remind me my grandfather about Russian doctors. I took my grandfather to the eye hospital as he was suffering from eye infections. Unfortunately the doctor who examined him was Russian doctor. It was a bit complicated process that the Dr spoke Russian to a man who spoke Amharic to me and I spoke Tigrina to my grandfather. To be fair the Dr diagnosed my Grandfather properly and as the infection was so bad he gave him some drops to be applied every night and come back in two week for another examination. While we were going home my grandfather asked me where the Dr was from. I said from Russia. He said RUSSIA! “These people are our blood enemies. They are killing your uncles. Bombing our villages and killing women and children indiscriminately. I would rather be blind than getting treat by them. Please throug the medicine” He refused to apply the drops and never went back. Later on we took him to an Eritrean private doctor.

        • Berhe Y

          Hi Amanuel,

          That’s some good story. I wasn’t implying the replacement principle was not good. I was making a point that soon after she left the school become an average school and dropped the center of excellence as was intended, like they use to do shuffling of students mid year and stuff like that.

          One of the great advantage of that system was, it use to attract students from all over Eritrea, like Keren, Adi QeyH, SenAfe where they would not normally come to Asmara for high school but their parents and relatives make the efforts to provide them with best possible feature and make the sacrifices to take opportunity.

          I hope we go back to our manual and implement how things use to be before PFDJ and erase everything that cane with IA. I can’t for the life of me think there is anything worthwhile keeping.

          Berhe

          • Amanuel

            Hi Berhe
            My intention was to correct you that the school remained as centre of excellence even after she left. I joined it, I think two years after she left and still It was a selective school until I left two years later.
            I couldn’t agree any more on your last point “ካብ ሕማቅ ዝገብሩኻ ሕማቅ ዝምህሩኻ።”

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Amanuel,

            You are correct in terms of what I implied the timing. Yes it remained like that for couple years (I don’t remember exactly) but I know for sure the “excellence, above certain percentage” was dropped. I have family members who went to that school way after and they didn’t have the high marks to get in.

            Thanks for engaging.

            Berhe

    • Nitricc

      Hi P nice propaganda. I hope that makes you feel better about your TPLF thugs. no matter what you do, there is nothing you can do to revive your dead Weyane. how far can you go to humiliate Eritrea and Eritreans? The Truth is the other day there was a demonstration that Gonder hospital was completely empty, no medication, no instrumentation and not even oxygen. But no, you have to come and make happy dumb people like Berhe and Semere Andom. What is wrong with you people? what is it with you and the undying love for the Weyane thugs?

      • Paulos

        Nitrikay,

        Berhe and I were born and grew up in Asmara, Eritrea. We came of age in Eritrea. You didn’t! We have the advantage of a hindsight. You don’t! You probably know Eritrea through the Social-Media and You-Tube. And I am not sure if you are qualified to make a judgment.

        • Berhe Y

          Hi Paulos,

          What amazes about him is, he has never set a foot in Eritrea that’s live over 10 years ago. Why doesn’t he go and visit for himself and see and learn the truth. What is he afraid off? same for tSAtSe and other Isayas worshipers…

          Berhe

          • Amanuel

            Hi Berhe
            Apparently Nitricc promised me to do his military service in Eritrea a couple years ago. Shame is not keeping his word.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Aman,

            He did the same to me also,years ago. But he never stop to despise for those who escaped from the trap of slavery.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Aman-H; really? I can’t believe it. Aren’t you the one criticized Semere Tesfay for sending his daughter to Eritrea to do national service while you never send your children to anywhere? Please stop this hypocrisy. Why don’t you send your own kids instead of questioning every once children. You diam right I will do my service. Take that with you and drill it to your head ; I will run SAWA one day in the mean time send your kids to do their share instead of criticizing the likes of Semere Tesfay who bravely dispensed their parental duty. Do your thing.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Hi Nitrickay,

            The reason I told him like that is, because he was like you supporting the endless slavery of our youth. He told us that the tragedy of Lampadusa has nothing to do with the regime. It was the fault of the victims. In any case, how do you expect me to send my kids while I am against it? Berhe and Semere will sure laugh at you. When are you going to do it by the way?

          • Nitricc

            Hi Amanuel; this is the 3rd time you are dispensing your lies but it is okay. What have you done? tell me what you did and I will tell you what I will do. For me Sawa and service are not about 18 months but much more important and much more meaningful. But with people like you narrow and idiotic thinking, we must expand SAWA to your likes with mental handicapped. So, sure send your kids and I will make sure they are okay. once again show me where I have promised you? show me. please don’t let me call you a liar.

          • Amanuel

            Hi Nitricc
            Cool down. Did I touch some nerves. Apologies.
            I wouldn’t brag about what I did for my country as I was ready to give my life as TEGADALAI. But just for your information I was one of people who set up SAWA for the right reasons.

      • Blink

        Dear Nitricc
        Let him feel happy man , give him time to spew out his anger . I just watched Sibhat Nega cry .

    • Haile S.

      ሰላም ጳውሎስ፡

      ኣንታ ዓውሎስ እንታይ ወሪዱካ
      ገዛ-ገዛ ከምንጻወት ዘለና ጠፊኡካ
      Government-Gov ገበጣና ዘንጊዕካ

      ካብ ኩሉ እንኮ ንመርኣዪ ኣለና
      ንበጻሕቲ ነርእየሉ ምስ መጹና
      ንYPFDJ መዛረቢ ዝኾነና
      ንፓሳጆ ምስ መጹ ከጣቑዑልና

      ኣብ ቀረባ ኢትዮጵያውያን ሓኻይም ከለዉና
      ዲሞክራሲ ነጻነት ሕጋውነት ሓላፍነት ዘይሓቱና
      እንታይ ዘህደምምናዮ ዝሰጎግናዮም ኣተአኻኸበና
      ንሕና ንደሊ ዝሰርሕ ዜጋ ተረጊጹ ኣብ ትሕቲ እግርና

      እንታይ ኮይኑካ እቲ እስቢዳለ ኦሮታ
      ዋላ እኳ እንተዘይኮነ ንህዝቢ መሐከምታ
      መህረም ኣፍልብና እንድዩ፡ ዘይብሉ መሰታ

      • Paulos

        ሰላም ሃይላት,

        ፋኛቱራ ተዓቢሱ
        ማርሻፔዲ ተጋህጺጹ

        ሲነማታትና
        ካፒቶል
        ኢምፔሮ
        ኦድዮን
        ሮማ
        ኮይነን ‘እንዳዑና

        ቅድሚ ሰብ ዓይኒ
        ከምዘየንቋሕና
        ከምዘይሰልጠንና
        ከም ሽንቲ ግመል
        ንድሕሪት ተመሊስና
        መስሓቕ ሸራፋት
        መሐጨጪ ድሁላት
        ኮይንና
        ተሪፍና

        መን’ዩ ተሓታቲ
        መን’ዩ ተወቃሲ
        ኢልካ ኣይሕተትን’ዩ
        ነውሪ እዩ ነውሪ!

        • Haile S.

          Selam Paul,

          ይብሉ፡
          ነጻነት ኣምጺእና
          ስልጣን ንዘለዓለም ይግብኣና
          Meritocracy ንዓና ንውልቅና
          ዋላ እንተዘይከኣልና፡ ክኢላታት ንሕና
          ዋላ እንተዘይፈለጥና፡ ፈላጣት ባዕልና
          ነቨር ኒል ዳውን፡ ነቨር ኣሕዋት ኣይትሕቆፉ’ዩ ንዓና
          ኣንታ ኣይርድኣኩምን ድዩ ንዓና ዝርድኣና
          ዜጋ ማለት ዝሰርሕ ተረጊጹ ኣብ እግርና
          ዓዓጽሙ ንዜጋና፡ ሰስጉኡ ንጎረቤትና
          ጮማን ጥረን ዝለመደ ቀደም ገዛኢና
          ንሕና ቃልሲ ንበልዕ፡ ቃላሲ ንሰቲ፡ እንኮ ክእለትና
          ንዓ ተቓለስ፡ ንዓ ተዋጋእ እንተበልናዮ ሕዝብና
          ብሓይሊ እንተዘይኮይኑ፡ ብሰላም ኣይትብንቁረና እንተበልና
          ቃልሲ ንቃልሲ ዘይርድኦ ህዝቢ ዓዲሉና
          መን ክሰምዓና፡ መርገም ወሪዱና

    • Hope

      Dottore:
      I agree and and have to admit that I referred my 82 yrs old ailing Daddy to Mekele Referral Hospital by paying a “Driver/Care Giver ” a $1000(US not nacfa or birr,which is Close to 20,000 Nacfa or 30,000 Birr besides spending $1200 for his check ups.
      The MDs there did a superb job and diagnosed him accurately on the spot…and treated him well and he started walking and peeing well after yrs of being bed-ridden due to disabling Gouty Arthritis and BPH.
      Some years ago,I took my friend,my Dad’s current “care giver” but a an Intelligent but a demoralized lawyer due to lack of business in Asmera,to Keren Gen Hospital for a simple GE/Traveler’s Diarrhea after we ate something in Hagaz, with serious dehydration though.
      The Hospital was inhospitable with nasty and sting smell and with no basic lab facility.
      I witnessed a long line of people lying in front of the Ambulatory Clinic of same hospital at 3AM,apparently for a clinic visit.I inquired about this and had a chat with few of the providers,my own old Colleagues from Black Lion and Gonder/Tena College.
      I witnessed their dismay and anger as well as their frustration,some crying like babies about the saddening situation of the hospital.
      I forwarded a proposal with a reasonable $150K cash Funds to rent a Center(secured) start a Comprehensive Medical Clinic at the Heart of keren with a Std Lab,Basic Radiology,Offices for Peds,Adults,Ob-Gyn,Well Child and Prenatal Clinic and a Mini Pharmacy facilities.
      The regime asked me a proof for my 2% payment,which I provided in full as I was paying it since 1993 based on my SS Income.
      The PFDJ guy was “excited” but only to turn me down…without going into details…the rest is history as they say it.I debated this issue with Haile TG here at awate.com few yrs ago.
      No need to believe me but listen to and read about Vet Tesfay Teckhle’s Biography
      and his contribution and his relentless effort to improve the Anseba region in general and that of Keren Gen Hospital the former Mentor of PIA and the top Notch Commander of the ELF (RIP).and he died from a preventable cxn of stroke and diabetes in Germany after he was belatedly sent to Khartoum then to Germany–despite our appeal to his friends to send him to the Europe or even Dubai when I heard about his initial CVA/Stroke……
      At one time during the Derghi Era,it was the BEST Referral Hospital as a Uniquely well funded Hospital as a Military Medical Center taking care of the entire Sahel,Keren,Halhal and Barka Fronts.
      I understand the over all situation of Eritrea and cannot and should nOT compare it with that of a privileged Tigray of Ethiopia but the Regime could have done better by allowing its citizens by involving them in Investment.

      • Amanuel

        Hi Hope
        Glad your old man is better.
        Welcome back. I was worried as you haven’t commented for few weeks.

      • Paulos

        Selam Dr. Hope,

        ክቡር ኣቦኻ ምሉእ ጥዕና ክረኽቡ ይምነ!

        Not sure if you have read it already, a Surgeon turned writer [Jonathan Kaplan] has written a book titled, “The Dressing Room: A Surgeon’s Chronicle Of War And Medicine.”

        In it, he writes rather critically about the health facilities and makeshift centers in ሓራ መሬት ኤርትራ when he visited them [Sahil and other areas] in the 80s including the remarkable competence of the Surgeons and Tegadelti-Physicians as well.

        To get back to the issue at hand, as you know, the two main long term investments, any government ventures into are: Education and Health-Care. If you don’t cultivate educated and healthy society, the society will not only be left out but there will not be continuity in the long run as well.

        Of course, the basics also dictate that, there ought to be a responsible allocation of resources of not only economic resources but equal redistribution of justice as well. And for those to be materialised, political and civic institutions should be in place. These are the bare minimum that renders a State, a normal State. Obviously, we don’t have that in Eritrea. This is to say that, the sad issue we are addressing here can not be seen in isolation for it tells or rather reflects the bigger picture of a dysfunctional State.

        Certainly, it is not unusual for citizens to seek medical treatments in neighboring countries as it is done say, in Central America where citizens go to Cuba, for instance. But that is done with in an economic model known as “Comparative Advantage” not only in Goods but in Services as well. If Eritreans are going to Ethiopia to receive treatments, what is Eritrea offering to Ethiopians in return? Nothing! And that makes it not only strange but people start speculating if something ominous is in the offing. Perhaps!

        • Hope

          Selam Dottore:
          Well said ;and cannot agree more,the point of my long and incoherent hateta.
          Cheers,
          With best regards and respect.

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Hope,

        I am glad to hear that your father got a better hospitalization and treatment that has improved his quality of life. Imagine Hope, how many Eritreans could not get this kind of “opportunity and support” like your father. ነዚ ከምዚ ኩነታት እኮ’ዮም አይትብከ እንድዩ ዘብክየኒ ዝብሉ አቦታትና:: ናይ ኤርትራ ጉዳይ ከአ ምስ ኩሎም ኪኢላታትና ከምዚ ኮይና ተሪፍና ኩሉ ግዜ ዘብክየና ዘሎ::

      • Haile S.

        Selam Hope,

        I add my wish to all others who wished you father for a complete recovery.

        One clear difference between TPLF and EPLF when they came to power was that: TPLF brought to its camp most of the educated people of Tigray to join its camp even giving them international posts including in the Eth-embassies. I am admiring the strategy, not condoning it. EPLF chased most able Eritreans through pretext of suspected collaboration, freezing salaries and responsibility, multiplying mortgage debts as punishment. They went into petty squabble with many individuals resulting in the distancing og the most able people from their most needed posts. Forget about including the educated in the right position in order to develop the country. I am saying this for those who really deserved. There are many chased including those that were very close to the regime even while it was distancing them overtly. Now the lucky countries are having them. I am not preaching for my parish, as I have never had contacts with the regime, never in need of any position in Eritrea. I was lucky enough to get what I wanted comfortably. The need of clarification is for the detractors who come on your nape when you touch the nerves of the INCOMPETENT REGIME.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Hailat,

          “I am admiring the strategy, not condoning it.” What do you mean by that? Isn’t out of admiration that we condone something? What did I miss about it?

          • Haile S.

            Selam Emma,

            I should have said, ‘I am not condoning the act’. My reservation is that, by doing so they might have excluded others from different social groups.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hailat,

            I think from your comment it was for specific issue, and that is, on how they utilize their educated section of their society. Admiring and condoning for that particular policy doesn’t in any shape or form equate to admiring and condoning all the policy and actions of TPLF. Those who does are not serious people you should worry about. So admiring = condoning

        • Hope

          Hello All:
          Thank you Drs Paulos,Hailat,Prof Aman Hidrat and Aman Ze-London…and others for your best wishes and kind words for/about my Hero of the heroes,my Dad.

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Hope,
            Glad to hear your father is out of the critical situation. Wish him health and longevity. As a person who lost my father due to bad healthcare in Eritrea (It’s not God’s mistake) I think he is lucky to find medication.

          • Hope

            Aheln Ya Ustazna SGJ:
            Thanks you.I HEAR you LOUD Buddy!
            “Aytibke endiyu Zebkiyeni,the rationale behind my Long hateta…
            I was/have been there,have done that and have seen that,kind of thing.
            The reason I attempted before to give some credit to the GoE,the intention was to give credit to and respect the hard working Colleagues at the MoH, who have done lots with minimum resources and with little or NO compensation, NOT to credit the same Corrupted PFDJ System, who has remained the major obstacle to the over all Development of Eritrea and its Infrastructure., which I tried to provide you with facts above, which are, indeed, FACTS.
            It is way beyond what you said:
            .”As a person who lost my father due to bad healthcare in Eritrea (It’s not God’s mistake) I think he is lucky to find medication.”
            . Hint:
            “-The turning DOWN of The Catholic Church Caritas’ to build the BEST Catholic Univ in Africa in 1990s by PIA and his then Min of Education,Osman Salih with a lame excuse that the Arab or Muslim Countries will also ask for building their own Islamic Univ in Eritrea….,which will polarize Eritrea and Eritreans.
            -The demise of THE AU and the Post Grad School of Medicine and Surgery and its Engineers/Sponsors due to fake excuses along with the BANNING of the Private Medical Practice
            -The Vet Tesfay Tekhle and the Anseba Region/Keren Hospital Infrastructure and Funding related TRUE and FACTUAL Stories
            -The circumstantial evidence based conspiracy behind the allegedly “obvious and gross” banning of the Private Sector of the Economy in general,and that of Fishing and Tourism Industries in particular the name of or excuse of “Lack of Funds and Security”…for close to 30 yrs..
            Yes,indeed,
            a person who lost my father due to bad healthcare in Eritrea (It’s not God’s mistake) I think he is lucky to find medication and
            a GOOD Care as well

      • Lamek

        Selam Hope, you are kind of nuts but a deep thinker and resourceful. Lots of good info for whatever it is worth. Thx.

    • Ato

      Paul, how are we?
      I wonder where and when those ” competent medical Physicians and Surgeons were educated and trained”? Can you give us a history run down please?

      • Hameed Al-Arabi

        Hi Ato,

        I have understood what you alluded to by educated and trained. I think you don’t miss to take into consideration the Eritrean ports, salt, fish, etc revenues. Now, it is requested from you to pay the billions of pending amounts with you to Eritreans.

        I hope you have grasped who funded for the competent medical physicians and surgeons.

        Al-Arabi

    • Alex

      Hi Paulos,
      I pity you since most of your posts are childish. I was in Eritrea a month ago and was able to visit state of the art Air force and Orotta Hospital. I was impressed with the service they give with all their short coming. Do you forget Eritrea was under sanction for 10 years initiated and supported by your TPLF to strangulate its economy. So why are you trying to compare with what they have in tigray at this time. TPLF looted Ethiopia for the last 27 years and was able to buy all the latest equipment that we might not have them in Eritrea. I am afraid you are one of the people sent by digital woyane since what you do is pass their propaganda. What have you done to the country we bled to defend from TPLF aggression nothing. Shame

      • Hope

        Selam Alex;

        U might be right but Dr Paulos was just stating the fact that lots of Eritreans are now going to Tigrai for cheap and easy Medical Access and Treatment,a fact no one can deny.

        Do not forget that lots of Eritreans have been visiting the Sudan for the same purpose because there is no functional Tertiary Health Care System in Eritrea.

        We are NOT belittling the potential and the ability of Eri Medical Professionals,who have proven again and again,where ever they are to be some of the BEST Practitioners,not to mention that they have been the best achievers in Engineering and Medicine specially in Ethiopia.

        Talk about the CORRUPT PFDJ System for whatever reason.
        I humbly advise you not to try to be more Catholic than the Pope.

        FYI and for the record,PIA publicly belittled and accused the Eri Professionals as weak and incompetent Health Professionals via its solo National TV, and admired the Sudanese Health Professionals…as if he were NOT the major obstacle to the achievement of the same Eri Professionals he belittled and joked about ,who have proved to him and to the world that they are the same Eri Public Health Professionals,who achieved the Millennium Goals with a minimum resources and compensation.

        Hope he will NOT admire the Bahirdar Health Professionals,who just finished their Internship in Eritrea more than the Eri Professionals.

        It was the same PIA in the very own words of his own FAKE Health Minster,who told the very few Private Specialty Clinics to close their practice and Clinics by telling the Providers;”Kab laEli zimetse Wissane eyyu”

        That “the decision came form the ABOVE”..

        It was the same PIA,who cupped the Physician Visit fee to be equal to the barber’s fee-20 Nacfa.per patient visit while the PFDJ Kiosk Clinics were charging patients at least 75-100 Nacfa per visit.

        As Haile TG picked it up,you sound to be the # 27 cadre from Virginia,from/ of the leaked PFDJ Cadre List,which you are entitled to be so.
        No offense to you but my point is that there are hardcore FACTS about the PFDJ Corrupted System that no ONE can deny or refute including PIA himself..

        • Alex

          Hi Hope,
          I understand your point that there’s short coming in our medical services at this time based on sanction and some interference by PFDJ after the untimely passing of the best minster of health Saleh Mikey. My point is paulos is a propagandist for TPLF at expense of Eritrea here in Awate always. For you last comment that I might be some body of a PFDJ cadre from Virginia is laughable and Shows your state of mind. I have never defended PFDJ here in Awate and go show your proof if not your credibility is online. I defend Eritrea not the current Government since the country so many brave bleed is bigger than PIA or PFDJ.

          • Amanuel

            Hi Alex
            You are clearly exaggerating when you said this “I was in Eritrea a month ago and was able to visit state of the art Air force and Orotta Hospital.” Why do you think Eritrean including Generals were flocking to Sudan for treatment paying thousand of dollars? Now as Hope put it people are traveling to Tigray for the same reason. Your excuse is the Arms embargo which has nothing to do with health issues.
            The regime has no interest in providing decent service even during the late Saleh Mikey (RIP) era the service was very poor.

          • Alex

            Hi Amanuel,
            I agree with you that there is a short coming in the health care in Eritrea as I outlined above and some is to do with mismanagement by PFDJ. There was a lot of improvement when Saleh Maky was in charge of the ministry. He single handedly with his relentless effort started Orotta school of medicine and post graduate for specialists with help from Cuba and George Washington university. You may think I am exaggerating but you can judge only once you see what I have seen with my own eyes this year. That does not mean like what I stated before there is no shortcoming with specialist and equipment in critical areas like cancer and others. There is extensive renovation and one floor extension done to former Enail Hospital by Piccini group of Italy last year and they did an amazing job. I spoke to one Eritrean surgeon in Asmara who told me the idea is to make the Air force hospital(formerly Enail) a specialist hospital with up to date equipment so people can get critical care at home with fair charge rather than go to Sudan or foreign countries.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Alex,

            You have no idea what Eritrea was like before the PFDJ. I don’t know how old you are and I don’t know where you were but you have no idea.

            What ever Saleh Meki did or was trying to do, is just to probably restore where health care use to be. I along many of my siblings, and my neighbourhood friends had the misfortune of getting into many accidents and made many emergency visits to Mekane Hiwet emergency hospital, Enail (Sila brothers) , Dr. Surur (broken teeth) Dr. Worku (eye accidents), Dr. Kibreab, the many qualified pharmacists, the brothers, Africa and Adulis, the nurses at many hospitals, the Catholic Church run walk in clinics, to name just a few.

            It was rare that Eritrea’s would go abroad for basic medical care.

            Read the letter Dr. Haile Debas read as part of the G13 when he met Isayas in Asmara and make your own judgement.

            Airforce hospital is the former Enail (was closed for no good reason)
            Orotta is the former 35.

            PFDJ build nothing, allot did was destroyed what was there.

            Berhe

          • Alex

            Hi Berhe,
            You think I don’t have any idea but you who rely on third hand info know more on the fact on the ground than some body who was in the country few times in the last decade and seen the changes in his own eyes. I may not be old enough to know about the situation in Derg time but the situation is different because of prevalence of non communicable diseases in third world countries at this time. How many Hospital, Doctors, nurses and equipment Eritrea have at the time of Derg comparing to now?. You should understand the reason people go to neighbouring countries is mostly to deal with complicated illness like cancer and others that require surgery with chemotherapy or radiation therapy that does not exist in Eritrea 30 years ago. This non communicable diseases like cancer, diabetes, Cardiovascular diseases and stroke that are common in Eritrea this days require a lot of investment on people skill, drug and equipment. Orotta Hospital is not the former 35 but a new 200 bed Hospital Build by china around 2003 and Enail Hospital was closed for few years but opened as Air force Hospital about 5 years ago. The former 35 is currently called Halibet Hospital. Me and you may disagree with PFDJ with the way they are running the country but to state they build nothing is not correct.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Alex,

            You are right I was wrong about Orotta. I had mistaken it with Halibet. When I was in Asmara, I heard Halibet, Halibet many times and learned it was the 35 which I thought was new.

            I don’t know about Orotta hospital and I don’t know what it specialize at.

            What’s the story with Hospital Abi, it use to serve a lot of people and I don’t know what’s its new name? What happened to that hospital, is it still operational?

            I know the PFDJ may have build some buildings here and there but I don’t think the medical situation have improved in Eritrea. For example, the hospital in Karen almost become out of service because it had no electricity and the government cutoff the petrol (didn’t supply) at some point, so even pregnant mothers and people who needed operation were sent to Asmara.

            During Derg time, there use to be Red Cross (qeyiH mesql) with 911 number that people use to call in case of emergency and they use to one with the ambulance to transport people. There were pharmacies who were opened 24 hours on rotation and the local radio station use to read the names the number of the emergency, fire, on rotation pharmacies.

            Now I am not saying the Derg build those but they operated even before the Derg and never the service was cutoff.

            Listen, with readily accessible knowledge and advance in medicine and living standard improved around the world, it’s natural that ERITREAN people life expectancy has improved.

            EPLF had a lot more sophisticated medical operations, doing all kinds of complicated surgery cause by war than they do now.

            This is what I am talking about. Sure there are more travelling nurses now, who can check vital signs and give antibiotics and refer complicated to hospitals, which is good, but most high schools use to resident nurses, who administer vaccinations.

            So I don’t know what were you expecting Eritrea should as a country. Eritrea was not a barren land like Juba where they started everything from scratch. It was functioning country, even at the highest level by the standard at the time.

            The PFDJ was destroying everything the country had, piece by piece.

            Have you seen the churches, the mosques that are build in the country. I am not talking about Asmara, but places like Keren, Aqordet,Mendefera, .,, who build those places and how long ago was that ?

            What does that tell you the level of sophistication and advance the ERITREAN people exhibit long time ago.

            200 bed hospital, or not bad but not something one can hardly brag about.

            You may have been to the country more than me, but I have also spoken to Doctors who worked there during the PDFJ times.

            You don’t know the story how IA chased away the American specialist / doctors who use to make visit organized by Dr. Haile and Minister Saleh Meki.

            Off course not all EPLF or ministers are wrong, in fact it’s amazing they do anything at all.

            My problem is with the boss and owner of the country who wanted nothing but the country and people reduced to poverty and humiliation and wanting them to leave and exile.

            If it wasn’t for him, we would have by the houndedth if not thousands.

            Berhe

          • Nitricc

            The PFDJ was destroying everything the country had, piece by piece. Have you seen the churches, the mosques that are build in the country.

            Hi Berhe; every time I read your phonetic post, I am discombobulated beyond real how dumb you are. how do you manage to get this dumb? wow.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Nitrric,

            Did you also get this word “discombobulated” from somewhere. You are getting sophisticated, I see the omega-3 my friend I Sem prescribed for you is helping.

            Why don’t you go visit Eritrea and learn all the stuff the ERITREAN people build before PFDJ.

            Berhe

          • Nitricc

            Hi Berhe; May you don’t see it your shortcomings and absolute irrational comments. people are asking for more schools, hospitals, clinics, roads and other institution but all you are concerned is about churches and mosques. Now, be honest Berhe, don’t you think I have a point when I say your comments are dumb?

  • sara

    dear awtistas
    really interesting read, and something to ponder about, thank you.

  • Selam All,

    I do not live in the usa, nevertheless, i want to ask, if it is true when the author says, “stop being hypocrites and stop complaining about racism here in the USA….. racism is a lot better than what we see in our own countries.”

    Are habeshas really more racist than white americans? It is right to say so when one is not exactly at the receiving end of the five centuries old and still counting of victim-hood of African Americans under the white american (western european) supremacists.

    For an African American racism is not skin deep as for a new comer to the land of dreams, fortune, and the brave. Racism was/is/(maybe will be) a five century everyday life for the african-american. The injustice of racism is in his genes, soul, in his standard of living, his frustration that a job may be given to the white guy even if he has more credentials, he will be shot in the streets by cops for no other reason than being black, a small black child is likely to be shot for carrying a toy gun, etc. The history of the black american is that of injustice, lynching, degradation, running away from his killers and those who traded in his body and soul, etc. Has racism died in the usa? Why then are black africans, latinos, muslims, and others are complaining, when it is more benign than the habesha racism?

    The words said by habeshas against people of darker complexion mainly out of ignorance cannot be compared with the systematic racism, exploitation and dehumanization of African Americans in the usa through out history. Habeshas have not caused a genocide as was done against native American, or millions of black africans thrown overboard in the atlantic sea by the white slave traders. If Americans have changed as is said and they are less racists than the habesha man and woman, may be we have been reading the wrong books about racism in america throughout the ages and even today, without denying that habeshas are petty racists.

    Even trump is obsessed with his ‘racist wall’ to keep out, as he says, the criminals, the rapists, etc. latinos. The modern day racism is due to what the conservative white Americans believe on top of what they believed in the past, that if the white man becomes a minority in his white dominated america, which it does not accept that it was taken from the natives, that will be the end of his superiority.

    In the USA racism was constitutional, a religion, coercive, and systematic. Habesha racism is meant to ameliorate his/her inferiority complex of being poorer and less educated. Habeshas never learnt to be really humble when they compared themselves with Africans. Their history and ancient civilization never taught them to be humble. They were racists with their words, and much less with their actions. Yes, habeshas are racist. Nevertheless, it is not comparable or even worse than the racism in the USA, now and throughout history? Otherwise, what we have read and the things we have seen in movies are all fake story.

    Maybe the habesha people should blame their racism on their mothers who used to tell them the wrong story about human creation. Human creation, they told us, was similar to baking bread in the oven. With the first group of bread, God was in a hurry, and it was not well done, and the white people were created. When he put in the oven the second group of bread, the result was the central Africans. Finally he found the right time, which was in between the two, and the result was the well baked bread, the brown habesha. Fortunately, we are now beyond that. Habeshas are more educated and less naive, nevertheless, still arrogant.

    [Selam A.T. – By the way, are you aware of what the fellow ‘amber smith’ has posted. Why do i always have the message ‘not secure’. Does the problem lie on my side. Thanks].

    • Amanuel

      Hi Harizon
      Teka is reminding us about our own problems and it should be taken as lesson we need learn from.
      If you are from the old Abyssinia region like my self, we have no moral ground to criticise the Americans when it’s comes to the history of slavey. History tells us the Abyssinians have participated on the slave trade cross the Red Sea where slavery is still not illegal. The difference is only in numbers.

    • Haile S.

      Selam Horizon,

      I agree with you. I also don’t agree with the “we are among the most racist….” attitude. As you well stressed there are apples and oranges. What you said can be summarized by this amharic proverbe: ፎገራ ለማያውቀው ዱር ነው።

    • Hashela

      Hi Horizon
      blinded by your zeal and obsession with the not-so-great Great “Mother” Ethiopia, you conveniently overlooked that like the population of Eritrea a large part of Ethiopia’s population is non Habesha, a losely defined and often misused term.

    • Blink

      Dear Horizon
      What exactly is the Habesha term all about from your point of view? I tend to put it like the relationship between Tigrians , Amhara and from Eritrea the Tigrinja and the Tigre ( I am assuming you have no clue Tigre is combination of many ) , what is the Habesha to be exact except the cloths , language and religion things , I leave this to you as I don’t see how the Habesha is viewed in Eritrea ane Ethiopia by others like me , for me Habesha has been always a war monger and also a very racist towards others in the region ( Eritrea and Ethiopia) . There is nothing good about Habesha and if there is I don’t see it borrowed by others , the coffee, the shiro enjera , and music are far less exercised by the people than war in between them and burning others like me in the war .

      War is the synonym of Habesha in our region and that’s all you guys have nothing else . The Oromo are not Habesha , the Afar are not Habesha and so many big chunk of our region don’t buy in to this Habesha thing. Habesha if it has any meaning is a racist war monger term That’s is it .

      The white Americans are held back by a systematic racist system and I guess at this hour a black African American has more say in America than a non Habesha in our region for example in Eritrea , that’s how I feel .

      Here again I don’t want to be seen racists against any race but the term Habesha is very hard to see it represent people who don’t even know what the hell is it all about .

      • Selam Blink,

        I know that you have a big problem with the ‘habesha’ thing. You see habeshas within a generalized context: all warmongers, and all racists, who have the upper hand and they benefit from the system. We should learn to live and let live. If people want to call themselves ‘habeshas’, it is up to them, and that does not make them anti-social.

        All germans were not nazis, nor were all italians fascists, there were the few then who were opposed to the system which dehumanized people, and today, the majority of germans are opposed to neo-nazis. In the same way all habeshas without exception are not warmongers and racists.

        In my opinion, it is a loose term which means something and at the same time does not mean something specific. Some say it is an arabic term which means ?‘mixed race’. It could replace the term ‘abyssinians’. It could mean those who lived/live in the ethiopian and eritrean highlands. It could as well mean people of a similar culture, religion, language, and history in this specific region.

        Of course, abyssinia of the past is not the same as ethiopia of today, nor is eritrea only highland eritrea. They have incorporated other peoples as well. The same thing happened in almost all countries of the world. If they adopted the term ‘habesha’ in the past and want to keep it, i think that it is up to them, and we cannot demonize them for that.

        Finally, you say, “The white Americans are held back by a systematic racist system….black African American has more say in America than a non Habesha in our region for example in Eritrea”. I am not sure, but you seem to insinuate that white americans are victims of racism themselves, and they are held back in a way by black africans (maybe from further development, whatever), and you say that black americans are in a better situation than some people in the third world, as if they are not part and parcel of the great america they have also shade sweat and blood to make it great. Maybe be you are saying that they have not contributed intellectually, which is not true. From their position and the chances they were given, in my opinion, they have contributed a lot. All african americans are not only the frustrated lot we might think.

  • Brhan

    Hi Awate,

    Thanks for the article Teka

    Racism is like garbage and it should be thrown to a garbage collector…said the prophet Mohamed (PBUH)

    • Simon Kaleab

      Selam Brhan,

      Which Surah or Hadith says that?
      Don’t panic, I am just asking for information purposes.

      I know that Muhammad mostly trusted Zayd ibn Harithah [a freed slave] and left him in charge of things such as administering Medina or even leading battles.

      • Brhan

        Hi ስምዖን

        It is Hadith narrated by Bukhari.
        and at awate…I do not panic ….to the contrary..I can babysit even those who release racial comments to mature

        • Simon Kaleab

          Selam Brhan,

          Babysit?

          So, what volume, book and number of Hadith al Bukhari? I want to check it out for myself.

          • Brhan
          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Brhan,

            Meaning you do not know the volume, book and number of this Hadith in Bukhari.

          • Brhan

            Selam Simon,
            I do know …and I put a link but I believe due to awate policy they deleted it.
            جاء فى البخارى أن رجلين من المهاجرين والأنصار تشاجرا فَقَالَ الأَنْصَارِىُّ يَا لَلأَنْصَارِ. وَقَالَ
            الْمُهَاجِرِىُّ يَا لَلْمُهَاجِرِينَ فَسَمِعَ ذَاكَ رَسُولُ اللَّه صلى الله عليه وسلم فَقَالَ: “مَابَالُ دَعْوَى جَاهِلِيَّةٍ؟ قَالُوا يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ كَسَعَ رَجُلٌ مِنَ الْمُهَاجِرِينَ رَجُلاً مِنَ الأَنْصَارِ. فَقَالَ دَعُوهَا فَإِنَّهَا مُنْتِنَة.” و”كسع” معناها أنه تكلم فرماه على إثر قوله بكلمة يسوءه بها. هل تفكرنا فى معنى كلمة (منتنة (ولو لدقائق فقط؟ كل إنسان يعلم ما معنى كلمة نتن والنتانة هى الجيفة أو الشىء المتعفن الذى لا يستطيع الإنسان الاقتراب منه. والشىء المتعفن هو المتهالك الفاسد الذى لا جدوى منه. وهو تشبيه منفر من
            هذا السلوك فلو شعر كل عنصر بعلوه على العنصر الآخر لتعفنت العلاقات بين الناس.
            and
            كتاب المناقب > باب ما ينهى من دعوة الجاهلية > الجزء رقم3

            I hope by now I gave you enough meal

  • aklilu zere

    Dear Good Teka.

    Thank you for your enlightening message. I will add this from Mathew 7:3

    “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?

    Again Thanks.