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UHURU: An Eritrean Cry From Nairobi

This edition of Negrit comes in two sections. The first is about the journey that culminated in the convening of the Nairobi meeting; the second is a postscript. I believe many are expecting my personal reaction to the “Veto” exercised against my attendance by Andeberhan at the final session of the Nairobi meeting. Indeed they might expect an explanation, but for me, an activist and a writer who fails to defend himself cannot defend the cause of a nation; but I realize my ego should not be placed above the interest of the nation. That is why I will address the purpose and outcome of the meeting first and relegate my personal story on the second section as a postscript because that is what it amounts to, a postscript.

Lately I came to realize that all the sectarian, regional, and other divisions are manifestations of the debilitating partisan divisions of the struggle era that some are cunningly keeping alive. The partisan culture had damaged Eritrean traditional cultural values and forcefully imposed itself in its place. Unfortunately, the entire nation didn’t resist the onslaught on our culture save for some meek objection to the colorless, tasteless and confused struggle-era culture. Not surprisingly, we were so much committed to the cause of independence of Eritrea that we allowed the excesses of the armed organizations; we are still suffering from the damage 25 years after the independence of our country. Unfortunately, the otherwise relentless and heroic struggle has produced an authoritarian rule, a militarized culture, a self depreciating dis-empowered citizen, and an apathetic culture.

As we usher Eritrea towards a normal, civil, and peaceful existence, we should address our experiences honestly to resolve our contradictions. But first, we have to realize that the armed struggle is our collective legacy and experience which ended in 1991. Thereafter, we are bogged down in a struggle against an authoritarian rule that has to be removed. Anything we do should be measured by how much closer it gets us to our goal. But meetings and seminars, however we try to present them, are useless unless they produce tangible results. We need to move on to normality where every Eritrean is seen as a citizen before being seen in the many other identities. It’s in this aspect, and in this light, that I see the significance of the Nairobi meeting.

As my readers know, I have been skeptical about Medrekh since the day it was launched. Disappointed by all the events of the past, I had developed an aversion to the feel-good projects that are carried out to be forgotten in a week or two. It seems many have lost self-confidence that they seem to expect salvation in the goodwill of foreigners who (with the exception of a few) consider our cause just a file to revamp their portfolios and develop their resumes as experts on Eritrea for their personal career advancement. We are not a portfolio, but a nation whose struggle may be statistics for the career oriented, though it is a noble struggle to us.

Five months ago I came to know that Medrekh was working on a project to bring all opposition entities together for discussion with a goal of creating an atmosphere of cooperation and tangible unity. I started consultations with the task-force that was working on the project, and though I was still skeptical, I decided to help out, simply because the idea of reconciliation is central to my struggle. We started with a relatively divergent ideas, but we got closer and closer by the day thanks to my strong friendship with both Asefaw (the leader of Medrekh) and Semere Habtemariam (the task coordinator).

Semere is simply a close friend of mine whom I would trust with my family. I have known Dr. Asefaw since the days of G13, to which I was invited but couldn’t join. I had just arrived in the USA as a stateless person: My Ethiopian passport was revoked (because I was part of the Eritrean referendum committee) and I was denied an Eritrean passport (because I criticized the government before and during the Badme War). However, I participated with my ideas which were presented on my behalf by my friend Dawit Mesfin. Since then, my relation with Asefaw went through ups and downs, but it always remained cordial, even in the face of severe disagreements. So much so that if I were to be banished to Ella-Ero and was asked to choose a company, Asefaw would be my choice. Over the years, the gap between us has been narrowing; on the Nairobi project, it was almost identical. I worked hard to make the goals of the project be realized and contributed my share, and constantly contacted Medrekh, particularly my friend Semere who did the bulk of the job. I am proud of my engagement in the project and I will do the same forever, even after the demise of the dictator. So, obviously I had a stake in the success of the Nairobi meeting.

On the other side of the isle, the original opposition forces are my erstwhile allies. In spite of the ups and downs of our relations, our fate remained intermingled and I never saw myself outside the camp that contains them. I am also proud to say that I have maintained strong relations with almost all the organizations, helping, consulting, and advancing our common causes. Bringing the opposition forces together has always been my dream—and I thought I realized a big dream that we coined “4+1” when my other friends, Adhanom Gebremariam and Abdella Adem joined the Salvation Front and the others. That experience was too bold for its time and unfortunately didn’t work out as I hoped. But Adhanom and Mohammed Nur Ahmed carried it out in a smaller scale and EPM is at the forefront of such a dream.

Admittedly, I never liked the Reform idea and always expressed my views against it. However, it seems neither the reform minded nor those who opposed the idea explained themselves clearly and the issue remains vague to this date.

The extreme version of the reform idea is to remove Isaias and a handful of others hoping the sun will continue rising from the East and set in the West. I tend to think, in that scenario, the sun will never, never, move—it will remain overhead and burn everything under it.

The anti reform camp is also another extreme, its proponents think everything in Eritrea belongs to the PFDJ and Isaias, thus, everything should be destroyed. That is not a call for peace and stability, but chaos and mayhem. You don’t save something in order to destroy it!

For instance, I believe the defense forces are assets of Eritrea, they don’t belong to any party of the groups but the entire population. However, it’s severely disoriented nature needs to be corrected in order to orient its loyalty towards the Eritrean people, preferably though a just and democratic constitution. Eritrean wealth that was confiscated by the PFDJ and the resources that it forcefully accumulated, belong to Eritreans and as such they should be turned over to the government of Eritrea. In short, any governmental institution belongs to the people—of course, a serious rehabilitation and cleansing program will be needed to rid the institutions of the PFDJ induced culture of nepotism, partisanship, and corruption. But why would anyone destroy his own national institutions?

In short, the corrupt criminal PFDJ entity needs to be eradicated as a party, and as was indicated in many instances, those who are wreaking havoc in Eritrea and are responsible for our predicament are estimated to be not more than “several hundreds men”. As such, our message to the public, both internal and external, should be designed with the above in mind.

It’s with that conviction that I committed myself to work for the success of the Nairobi meeting and these are the ideas I believe in. But to reach to a concrete agreement on the above, and create a united Eritrean opposition leadership to pursue it, is not an easy undertaking. However, I think the Nairobi meeting has made it a lot easier and charted the next steps to reach the goal.

Generally we tend to demolish what we invested in and focus on building new structures on which we embark to demolish in no time. When the EDA aspired to build a more robust and inclusive umbrella it called for the creation of the ENCDC which is by far the most inclusive and widely accepted political arrangement so far. I believe it can be expanded to accommodate the EPDP and Medrekh who I believe understand what is at stake at his moment. I also believe the ENCDC is magnanimous and flexible enough to make such an undertaking a success—the Nairobi meeting has paved the way for such an undertaking. If we are skeptical about such an undertaking, all we need to do is, reflect on the last five years since the Hawassa convention and see how we have squandered our time and resources, and opportunities that presented themselves to us—due to both internally and externally induced crisis. That, I am sure will help us endorse such an idea.

Forgetting the small hiccup, the Nairobi meeting was excellent and opened the way for further cooperation among the opposition forces—I wish the public will subdue its perceptions, egos, negativity and skepticism, and for a change, rally behind such an objective. I will do just that and I hope I will not have to write anything bad about it—provided it is blessed with honesty, humility, be goal oriented and not a show-off and arrogance. Moving ahead, there are programs that need to be executed and we have to do our parts.

In Nairobi, all the negative perceptions were cleared, seeing how Dr Asefaw and Hussein Khelifa appreciated each other is just an example, an indication. The rest of the interaction were equally uplifting and they are too much to list here.

Lastly, I wish my friend Adhanom could have attended, but he couldn’t due to passport expiry date and visa complications, he could have contributed immensely to the discussions. But his spirit was there. Also, I really enjoyed my time with patriotic Eritreans, including Mohammed Nur Ahmed, Mesfin Hagos, the intellectual powerhouse Herui Bairu, Bashir Ishaaq, AbulAbbas, Negash Osman, Jemal Saeed, Woldeyesus Ammar, Mohammed Sefer, Muhyeddin Shengeb, Mengisteab Asmerom, Asgedet Mihreteab, Tewelde Gebreselasse, Dr. Almaz Zerai, Khedija Mohammed Ali, the Patron of Artists–Hussein Mohammed Ali, Suleman Hussein, Saba Fessehaye, Beyan Negash, Samuel Akka, Dr. Awet Woldemichael, Mohammed Burhan Blatta, and Dr Adane Teckle. I also had the opportunity to meet members of the Eritrean community, including Dr Asia Abdulkadir, Colonel Hussein, Ahmed and others whose names I can’t recall.

Postscript

On Sunday morning, Andeberhan Woldegiorgis put his colleague in a precarious situation when he threatened to expel me from the meeting unless they take me out of the meeting hall silently. They had tried to dissuade him from that bullish decision for hours to no avail and they were afraid a conflict will ensue and derail the meeting  if they rejected his decision, or if he tried to expel me from the meeting. Looking so distressed, and embarrassed, they called me out for a word and explained to me the problem. At first I asked them to tell Andeberhan that I challenge him to expel me in front of the attendants to see if the they will approve of his decision or defy it in solidarity with me. I openly stated, “we will see how many people will sell me out and how many will turn against him.” The atmosphere was scary and there was a risk the meeting would end in chaos. My conscience didn’t allow me to be part in the failure of the meeting and I decided to subdue my feeling for the sake of the meeting instead of reciprocating with similar foolishness and bullish behavior that Andeberhan displayed. His ego and stubbornness was despicable, standing against four of his colleagues–he might have felt proud that he held the meeting hostage, but on the contrary, he proved his mettle and what kind of team spirit he has: none.

At any rate, I decided not to tell anyone about what happened until the end of the meeting; I didn’t want the attendants to continue the meeting in a tense state. After dinner and celebration in the city, back at the hotel, we all met and that is when Dr. Assefaw gracefully apologized to me for what happened, and acknowledged my role in the meeting and thanked me. I rejected his apology because Medrekh doesn’t owe me one, and I have not seen anything but respect and camaraderie from him and his colleagues. But I fail to understand Andeberhan’s mortifying motive. At any rate, he attempted to politically liquidate me, and since he called for it, I will give him a clean fight. Hussein Kehlifa, Herui Bairu, Woldeyesus Ammar and several others commented on the issue and expressed their disappointment passionately and stated their solidarity with me and they considered Andeberhan’s disrespect of me as a disrespect to all the attendants. The comments would have gone on for the rest of the night had Semere not mitigated it.

I also concluded, unless he reforms himself, Andeberhan cannot have a positive contribution in any project related to unity or organizing the opposition. His behavior, considering the negative luggage that he carries, is surprising to say the least. And though his blunders are made of enticing juices, particularly for a writer and satirist, I promise not to be enticed.

Lastly, if there is anyone wondering, yes, I didn’t just arrive in Nairobi, I was invited and was provided with air tickets and hosting by Medrekh. And yes, I stayed in Addis Ababa for a few days, met several people, and I attended a few personal and public affairs–I will soon write about my personal observations in a much lighter tone.

Unfortunately, I can’t say more on this for the time being, but let me share with you the following links which might explain Andeberhan’s spiteful motive and vengeance:

1. Reasons To Doubt Reliability of ICG’s Report (Nov. 8, 2008)

2. An article I wrote in February 10, 2014

3. The Frankfurt workshop: Last May an Eritrean residing in Germany met Andeberhan and suggested the usual “let’s get all the opposition parties meet.” Andeberhan encouraged the man to go ahead. Equipped with that endorsement, the man approached Dr. Gunther Shroeder, who in turn took the opportunity and convinced his friend Dr. Hartmut Quehl of Felsberger Institute to host the meeting—if you are wondering, though I cannot present an evidence, the attendants’ list was suggested by Andeberhan and the selected entities were invited to Frankfurt. Of course, some NGOs think Andeberhan is the new cowboy who will ride the opposition camp horse and then take Isaias’ seat to ride the rest of Eritreans. Faced with such dilemma, our women exclaim, “Wooo lille!”

I also suspect an email I sent to Dr. Hartmut Quehl somehow reached Andeberhan who was instrumental in the holding of the Frankfurt workshop, and he might have increased his grudge one notch. Here is the message I sent to Dr. Hartmut:

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November 2, 2015

Dear sirs, 

First, on behalf of myself and the Awate Team, allow me to thank you for your interest in Eritrean issues and your willingness to help. We wish you luck in your endeavor. 

I would also like to mention that we believe your team is capable of pulling this together, and please note that in the past, we had limited communication with Dr. [Gunther] Shroeder; his presence in your team assures us that your planned event must have been well thought of and we hope it will be productive.

Having said that, let me state that we expected to see a public announcement about the event–if not a media circular to us or a general press release. Unfortunately, nothing of that happened.

As you might be aware, for the last fifteen years awate-com has been following all Eritrean related activities diligently, and as such, since last September we have started to collect bits of information regarding your planned event. For our dismay, judging from what we have seen so far, it feels like we know “the end of the movie.” We believe it might turn out to be chaotic if you are lucky, or if you are not, it will be ignored as if it didn’t happen, just like the many such events of the past.

There are a few concerns that we hope you will consider:

  1. For the most part, Eritreans are suspicious of any NGO initiated activity because they seem to focus on theory at the expense of real practical issues.
  2. Generally, the choice of the list of invited attendants doesn’t represent all stakeholders, but those who have contacts with the NGO world and are considered good enough representatives. 
  3. NGO initiated events seem to be poorly thought of and the preliminary research on the matter seems to be haphazard, thus cooking its own failure and negative perception.
  4. They lack proper in advance planning in crisis management and warding off negative media and perception as an outcome—these seem to overshadow any positive outcome.
  5. The events give the impression that they are hastily prepared and lack support of the overwhelming majority of stakeholders.  
  6. Also, such events unknowingly foster further crisis and divisions among Eritrean forces.

Here, allow me to share with you a negative response as a sample: a few days ago a senior opposition figure was asked if he was attending the Frankfurt meeting. He replied, “Foreigners cannot invite me to do my job on my behalf.” 

Such is the political paranoia and mistrust that has been festering for too long among Eritreans. 

The above are some of the points of concern and I would like to propose the following:

  1. Cancel the date and extend it to a later date—most NGOs seem to be concerned by the use-it-or-lose-it spending limitations and rush to hold half-baked events before the December 31st budget year, I hope you do not have such concerns.
  2. Set a criteria for attendants—are you after individuals who can make political decisions, or intellectuals who can discuss concepts and ideas, or just presence? 
  3. Make sure to invite from the cross section of the Eritrean groups, identify who they are and how you want them represented.
  4. If it is an intellectual (academic) meeting, then invite academicians and describe the goal of the event clearly.  

Finally, please don’t hesitate to contact me if you wish, and I wish you luck.

Saleh Johar
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In conclusion, though I don’t understand why the above would infuriate anyone, I am just presenting what I think might have triggered Andeberhan’s vendetta, or rather what seemed like a long held grudge. Like all patriots, I was glad when he decided to join the opposition forces after he abandoned the authoritarian regime against which I tirelessly fought for the last two decades, and to which he belonged until recently. Again, Andeberhan is welcome to the opposition camp, which is the domain of every noble Eritrean. However, when the opposition welcomes him, it is as a citizen and not as a privileged person who should boss people around—bossing people requires merit, particularly in social skills, character, and a humble demeanor.

About Saleh "Gadi" Johar

Born and raised in Keren, Eritrea, now a US citizen residing in California, Mr. Saleh “Gadi” Johar is founder and publisher of awate.com. Author of Miriam was Here, Of Kings and Bandits, and Simply Echoes. Saleh is acclaimed for his wealth of experience and knowledge in the history and politics of the Horn of Africa. A prominent public speaker and a researcher specializing on the Horn of Africa, he has given many distinguished lectures and participated in numerous seminars and conferences around the world. Activism Awate.com was founded by Saleh “Gadi” Johar and is administered by the Awate Team and a group of volunteers who serve as the website’s advisory committee. The mission of awate.com is to provide Eritreans and friends of Eritrea with information that is hidden by the Eritrean regime and its surrogates; to provide a platform for information dissemination and opinion sharing; to inspire Eritreans, to embolden them into taking action, and finally, to lay the groundwork for reconciliation whose pillars are the truth. Miriam Was Here This book that was launched on August 16, 2013, is based on true stories; in writing it, Saleh has interviewed dozens of victims and eye-witnesses of Human trafficking, Eritrea, human rights, forced labor.and researched hundreds of pages of materials. The novel describes the ordeal of a nation, its youth, women and parents. It focuses on violation of human rights of the citizens and a country whose youth have become victims of slave labor, human trafficking, hostage taking, and human organ harvesting--all a result of bad governance. The main character of the story is Miriam, a young Eritrean woman; her father Zerom Bahta Hadgembes, a veteran of the struggle who resides in America and her childhood friend Senay who wanted to marry her but ended up being conscripted. Kings and Bandits Saleh “Gadi” Johar tells a powerful story that is never told: that many "child warriors" to whom we are asked to offer sympathies befitting helpless victims and hostages are actually premature adults who have made a conscious decision to stand up against brutality and oppression, and actually deserve our admiration. And that many of those whom we instinctively feel sympathetic towards, like the Ethiopian king Emperor Haile Sellassie, were actually world-class tyrants whose transgressions would normally be cases in the World Court. Simply Echoes A collection of romantic, political observations and travel poems; a reflection of the euphoric years that followed Eritrean Independence in 1991.

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  • T..T.

    Hi SGJ and all,

    To hold a meeting/conference is a choice to convince the unconvinced for otherwise the choice made is to remain cowardly surrendered to the convinced ones only.

    And if the host’s mouth stumbled in the conference, relationship is damaged. And if the unconvinced who is invited doesn’t show up, it is said that feet stumbled and ligaments damaged causing the speed of improving the relationship to drag down as if elephants tied to each foot. Therefore, by attending the conference, SGJ won all the attendees’ support against one.

    Lessons learned – the link below is to a song from asena-com, which explains the situation of bad habits are hard to break: Think twice before you err lest not become like Isayas who thinks by inches and talks by a mile plus an inch causing a slip out of a mile damage (one-mile-plus-an-inch minus an-inch). Just click and the song will play.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2hCI9uQIVM&feature=youtu.be&t=1411

    .

  • Ayneta

    Lilay:
    I have no problem you taking stand against Gadi. But there are some serious discrepancies that need to be filled for one to understand what he hell went on.

    1. If Medrek is that organised as you portray it to be, and Gadi was perceived the spoiler, why was he involved in the process? why was Gadi given all the privileges including Air ticket and hotel accommodation? Why did Anderberhan wait till Gadi arrived to Nairobi to expel him from the meeting?

    2. If Anderberhan had any beef with Gadi, why did he wait till the last day to dismiss Gadi from conference? What happened to the first two days ? Didnt Anderberhan know Gadi was physically present in the conference the first two days?

    Something does not smell right.

    Perhaps Gadi may give us an explanantion from his stand point.

    • Saleh Johar

      Ayneta,
      People like Lilay are excursionist and they are the stumbling blocks in our quest for reconciliation which to them is a monologue in front of a mirror.

    • Abraham Hanibal

      Dear Ayneta,

      I’ve also asked Ato Saleh Gadi similar questions as yours, but my questions fell on deaf ears. What Saleh Johar is doing is telling a tip of the story, only the versions that fit for his defamation purpose and trying to sell them to his readers. Unfortunately, I see many participants in this forum who have fallen in the trap of this single sided story as told by Saleh Gadi, and giving their conclusion about the nature of Andebrehan and Medrek based on this one-sided story that doesn’t make any sense. And guess what; these people call themselves as “justice -seekers”!

      • Saleh Johar

        Abraham,
        You fall in the same trap you accuse others of. No problem
        1. I don’t remember seeing your questions, maybe I forgot with the high volume of comments. If my reply was that important to you, maybe you should have asked instead of passing judgement based on your speculation. Kindly shoot your question, or just provide me with a link and I will try. But if you have already formed your biased view, there is no need for my reply.

        • Abraham Hanibal

          Dear Saleh Gadi Johar,

          Ok, I will try again; I repost here my earlier comment with questions; but also praises; to you and others who participted in the Nairobi gathering:

          Dear Saleh G. Johar,

          First I would like to congratulate you and the rest of the organizers within Medrekh on your recent Nairobi conference. It is encouraging to witness Eritrean political groups and individuals of various ideas and persuasions come together for the sake of narrowing the gaps, and seek to increase the momentum of the struggle against dictatorship through common endeavors. It is also commendable that despite what happened to you personally, you supported and endorsed the initiative and the outcome as well as pledging your continued contribution to the common greater cause.

          Having said this I would like to ask you the following for clarification:

          As you’ve described it you were part of the process of organizing and coordinating the conference from the beginning. This means that Amb. Andebrehan, being an active participant in Medrekh, must have known about your participation from the start. If Amb. Andebrehan has “grudges” and “vengeance” against you, then why was your participation even during the preparation period not raised and eventually resolved within the Medrekh organizers? In addition to this we know the meeting took place from 27 November to 29 November, 2015, while the reaction from Amb. Andebrehan towards your participation came in the morning of the last day of the conference. Were you present during the whole three day period of the meeting? If yes, then how could Amb. Andebrehan’s desire to “politically liquidate” you not occur in the first day of the conference; why did he agree with his colleagues to let you participate for two days of the conference, if you were indeed present in the meeting during those first two days? I guess something must have happened before his decision to resist your participation; something that has not seen the day of light as of yet.

          At any rate I agree with those who are suggesting not to rush to judgement before getting the story of the other side, preferably backed by other neutral or independent witnesses to the episode.

          Kind Regards

          • Saleh Johar

            That is simple Abraham,
            That requires a simple answer.
            1. I cannot answer on what went on between Medrekh members. 2) I was not there in the first day, had others reasons to stay in Addis and arrived on the second day. 3) I think he had something against me and honestly I don’t know, even my attempt on speculating was futile but he was alone and the other members were against his decision–I worked with all of them, he never contacted me and I never did–there was no immediate need that required contacting him and I didn’t. Besides, he was busy all of October working on the Tanzanian elections.

            Dear Abraham, I recognize that there are elements of information that all entities prefer not to divulge–there are public information and privileged information. For instance, I didn’t participate and wouldn’t be allowed to participate in the closed meetings between the political organization because I am neither a delegate or a member of the organizations. And I will not squeeze them to tell me what they discussed in their deliberations, though I might try and find out through my individual efforts what went on. Therefore, you can probe as much as you want but recognize that Medrekh has the right to hold internal affairs in private.

          • Abraham Hanibal

            Dear Saleh Johar,

            Thank you for the reply. According to the interview Amb. Andebrehan gave after the meeting; the organizers had set certain criteria as to which organizations would participate; these were:

            Political organizaions with:
            -known and documented programme
            -known and official leadership
            -official membership
            -website(s)
            -undertaking politcal activity within the public

            You, Saleh Johar, as an indiviadual that doesn’t belong to any political organization, do not satisfy the criteria stated above to participate in the conference. Therefore, I wonder, why in the first place you were allowed to attend the meeting.

            Second, even if you were allowed to attend by other criteria which is not made public; you didn’t show up during the first day of the meeting by your own admission to my question. Also by your own words you were invited and provided with air tickets and hosting by Medrekh; yet, you “stayed in Addis Ababa for a few days, met several people, and attended a few personal and public affairs”.

            One of the reasons for holding the meeting outside Ethiopia was to minimize the pressure and influence of the Ethiopian gov. in the affairs of the Eritrean opposition groups. Now connecting the dots, I can imagine that your activities in Ethiopia prior to the meeting even resulting in you, missing the first day of the meeting indicate suspicion of your role towards the meeting.

            The fact that you are trying to sell the story of your dispute with Amb. Andebrehan as related to “grudges” or “vengeance” doesn’t make sense, because simply you are not telling the full story. On the contrary, I would say, it is you who have such feelings towards Amb. Andebrehan and Medrekh based on your previous and repeated attacks on these people.

            I must say also that you are not living upto the moto of your website, Reconciliation, by repeatedly engaging in personal feud with Amb. Andebrehan and the Medrekh people; by using your website to disseminate such destructive attacks against other people, which in turn is causing chaos in the opposition camps.

          • Saleh Johar

            Abraham
            If you have made your conclusion before hand I cannot help you and yes, there are stuff that you will keep guessing about until the right time. I suggest you ask medrekh why they invited me and why I was in Addis because I will not tell you. Am I giving you more ingredients for your paranoia? You bet I am, because I like your conspiratorial mentality. Sometimes it’s good not to try to read between the lines because there is nothing there.

          • Abraham Hanibal

            Dear Saleh Johar,

            Really I do not have any paranoia; what I’m doing is to draw obsevations based on the facts that are available in front of me; most of them provided by you.
            Btw, I hope Amb. Andebrehan replies to your stinging attacks on his personality; though I do not think he will do so, falling to your level in this case.
            Thanks

          • Saleh Johar

            Abraham,
            Good idea! I hope he stays in his level with you. Thanks.

          • PTS

            Abraham,
            Hmmm. You made a very good observation on this: Medrek’s decision to convene the meeting in Nairobi and not at the more convenent Addis was because the orginizers were responding to the feelings of Eritreans. Smart move and kudos to them. Now our friend Saleh spent the first day of the meeting in Addis and showed up in Nairobi right from Addis, the very place the organizers don’t want anything to do with. This will create unwanted attention and will be used by the PFDJ as propaganda.

            On my earlier comments, I sympathized with and supported Saleh. Now I am finding him to be inconsiderate and insensitive frankly to all participants that worked hard to disassociate from any Ethiopian influence, be it real or perceived.

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Selam Abraham
            I would like to see the forum discussing the positive result of the meeting. In all sincerity, MedreK, the parties that broke their established suspicion towards any thing that has EPLF trace and put discussing important matter, also putting aside intra and inter-organizational feuds which crippled them for the last decades, culminating in the recognition of pioneer veterans from both ghedli-era based camps…stipulating that they would form a mutual committee to coordinate future gatherings, agreeing on tempering down self-defeating internal feuds of the opposition; agreeing on setting tentative and broad points on how to pursue the struggle (identifying common messages of national importance while allowing organizations to keep their independence if they choose so….are some of the positive outcomes. It is regrettable that the conference is summed up in what went wrong between two individuals. I continue to believe that individual feuds have caused our struggle for liberation a lot and it keeps affecting it negatively. The public should look and push for platforms that demonstrate they are diametrically opposite to PFDJ in their way of doing business and the image and culture they radiate. Individuals should serve the cause not the other way around. Here some points I have gathered from sources close to the conference.
            1. Ambassador Andebrehan was at odd even with his colleagues in that decision. Therefore it is not a feud between Andebrehan and Saleh Gadi. He SURPRISED (emphasis is intended) even his close groupmates, and certainly, the committee. If there is a man who should explain this, it should be the Ambassador and not Saleh. Saleh, as he explained in his article, and collaborated with independent minded sources who are not associated with MedreK, was involved in the process more than any non-political attendees who did not represent any organized political party (there is more to the people who attended the conference than what Andebrehan made public (the attendees were not only political leaders). Also, Saleh was contacted by Merek early on (confirmed); worked with them in order to make the conference successful (confirmed); his travel expenses were paid by MedreK (confirmed)…
            2. Some of the parties who attended the conference would not make that decision without the efforts of people like Saleh; there is the confidence factor involved here. Who do you trust? Saleh (and there are other unsung heroes too) knows these people, they know him; it was a protracted process and consultation. Saleh, who had been known as a harsh critic of MereK would have to explain why he had made those changes, why he thought attending the conference was more important than any lingering doubts about Merek…”He must have seen something new in the process,” so they would have to think in order to make that move.
            3. His stay in Addis was a planned one, and I don’t to into it in detail, but he would have to convince some holdouts at the last minutes (some of them literally made it to Nairobi because of the efforts that Saleh did. I have criticized Saleh in the past on his MereK, DC meetings and others. I have no reason not to criticize him in the future. However, in this incident (mind you we are talking about an incident, a really arrogant conduct by the Ambassador) and not about Medrek. Baiscally, the Ambassador went out his way against the plan and understanding of other Medrek members. Unfortunately, it’s consistent with his personal behavior regarding rigidity and arrogance.
            4. Saleh, did take a responsible step by suppressing his ego and sucking up the humiliating experience for the sake of the success of the cause (Semere has written an article about this; I have not read it yet).
            5. Here is where I felt uneasy about Saleh’s article. He should have selected a different topic, and a different accompanying picture/graphic. The problem between him and Andebrehan should have been a paragraph, not more than that. If he has other articles regarding Nairobi, he should have placed that at the end of his series, not on the first article.
            6. Since the incident was made public at the last day of the conference, some sort of PR is needed by Medrek as to what exactly happened. I don’t expect Saleh would lie to us since this was not a closed two persons’ feat. It should be undebrehan who should explain. It should be Medrek, for the sake of the cause and the process, who should come up with an explanation.
            Regards.

          • Abraham Hanibal

            Selam Mahmuday,

            Thanks for the reply and for the additional information. I do not have any close contact with anyone who participatd on the Nairobi event, hence my comments are only based on what has been said by Saleh Johar himself and the Medrekh leaders on media.
            According to the interview given by Amb. Adebrehan and Dr. Asefaw, they said that invitations were extended to 19 political organizations in the beginning. Out of these, 18 organizations expressed their willingness and readiness to participate in the conference after recieving the agenda of the conference. Mind you, this is long before the conference itself. During the conference itself, only 11 out of the previous 18 parties showed up.
            I do not understand, therefore, why Saleh Johar would have to work to “convince” certain parties to the “last minute” (to the extent that he even missed the first day of the meeting). It simply doesn’t make sense.
            And the most important question and yet unanswered is why would Amb. Andebrehan react the way he did towards Saleh Johar “out of the blue”, after all the co-operation that Saleh had shown up until “the last minute” of the conference preparations. I’m simply not convinced by the story being told by Saleh Johar; there must be something else to it.

            Regards

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Dear Abraham
            Your handling of the matter is mature; you seem to be looking for the triggering cause. I think Andebrhan is the right person to explain it. Remember, unless Saleh is under a specific time sensitive contract, his stay in Addis could not explain a sudden order of eviction. Even if he tries to do what the Ambassador considered against the letter and spirit of the meeting, Andebrhan could not use that a reason simply because this is a matter of the right of a person to exercise his right of movement, contact, and free expressions. We know Saleh is a writer, an activist, and his contacts with officials of the opposition and Ethiopia are well known and self-reported. Therefore, regardless of what Saleh does, he would not be expected to be invited and then suddenly ordered to leave. Although Saleh and Medrek are tight-lipped about it, two persons who have no connection with the meetings but have monitored it assured me that at leat part of his stay in Addis was related to convincing some participants. He might have over stayed, that could not constitute an order to expel him. Ignoring everything else, let’s look at the following.
            1. Saleh is invited, his ticket is paid by Medrek, Saleh arrives in the meeting place.
            2. Saleh is suddenly ordered to leave.
            3. Senior Medrek officials and the coordinating committee object to Andebrhan’s decision. Now it becomes an argument between Medrek. Andebrhan standards his ground. The fate of the conference hinges on a move by Saleh. Things are explained to him. Saleh takes the right step by stepping out.
            4. Medrek apologizes.
            You see, even leaving everything aside, why would other Members of Medrek would object to the order of expulsion, and why would they apologize?

          • Abraham Hanibal

            Selam Mahmuday,

            Thanks again,; as far as I understand it, Saleh Johar has participated in the second day of the meeting. So he was not “suddenly ordered to leave” after arriving in the meeting place. Also according to Saleh’s reply to me, the meeting was not a single one; that is, there were parts of the conference that were confined only to political organizations, and by his own admission Saleh said he would not participate in such meetings. Was the part of the meeting he was excluded from one of such meetings? Anyway, as you said this episode deserves a serious reply and clarification from the side of Medrek, because it has owershadowed the spirit of the conference and the prospects of future similar initiatives by Medrekh.

      • tes

        Dear Abraham H.,

        You wrote, “What Saleh Johar is doing is telling a tip of the story, only the versions that fit for his defamation purpose and trying to sell them to his readers.”

        Aren’t you already passing your judgments?

        tes

  • ghezaehagos

    Selam Dear Saleh,

    Welcome back and thank you for sharing your story with us.

    You wrote,

    ” For the most part, Eritreans are suspicious of any NGO initiated activity because they seem to focus on theory at the expense of real practical issues. Generally, the choice of the list of invited attendants doesn’t represent all stakeholders, but those who have contacts with the NGO world and are considered good enough representatives. NGO initiated events seem to be poorly thought of and the preliminary research on the matter seems to be haphazard, thus cooking its own failure and negative perception. They lack proper in advance planning in crisis management and warding off negative media and perception as an outcome—these seem to overshadow any positive outcome.The events give the impression that they are hastily prepared and lack support of the overwhelming majority of stakeholders. ”

    And YOU proposed,

    “1. Cancel the date and extend it to a later date—most NGOs seem to be concerned by the use-it-or-lose-it spending limitations and rush to hold half-baked events before the December 31st budget year, I hope you do not have such concerns.

    2 -Set a criteria for attendants—are you after individuals who can make political decisions, or intellectuals who can discuss concepts and ideas, or just presence?
    3-Make sure to invite from the cross section of the Eritrean groups, identify who they are and how you want them represented.
    4-If it is an intellectual (academic) meeting, then invite academicians and describe the goal of the event clearly. ”

    If you allow me, I would like to ask you few questions.

    As shown in the above, you said you protested the Frankfurt workshop and requested to be postponed. You went to Nairobi though.

    Now, could you enlighten me what changed between the two meetings that satisfied you to convene the second one. Unless I missed something, the fundamentals are the SAME in both.

    A. Participants are almost the same, from the signatories of the Frankfurt comminque.

    B. Nature of the meetings are the same: Bringing “Eritrean opposition together” though a big chunk was left out. Ask the six organizations for starters, as well as some civil society groups. It appears to be intra-bayto rivalry now branching out. Did you ask about the other ‘stake-holders’ dear Saleh? You never mentioned anything about them in this article.

    C. The NGO factor either as facilitator or funder is still there in Kenya. You said, “I was invited and was provided with air tickets and hosting by Medrekh.” Clearly you know dear Saleh Medrekh doesn’t pay for its bills from its members. They apply for some grans and it doesn’t want to disclose its funder. I can live with that; but please let them not gloat to imply others are funded by Ethiopia while they are NOT remotely financially independent. It is great they got funders and let them respect others who get their funds from other sources. After all, they said they are here to bring positive rapprochement and they should live by their words.
    Back to you Saleh, I would like to know what part of your FOUR recommendations were met to your satisfaction to decide to go to Nairobi?
    Thanks,
    Ghezae Hagos.
    (N.B. Any Eritrean meeting is a fundamental human right issue and it should be applauded. Moreover, We hope such meetings meant genuinely to be inclusive and hence reach out to the other political organizations that have been left out so far. There is always time….qinEna yihlwena ember..!

    • Berhe Y

      Dear Ghezae,

      I am sure Saleh will be able to respond to your question. But I don’t think the letter he supplied with regards to the NGO / Funding is anything to do with the article. I think, Saleh provided that article to show what has transpired between Andebrhan or related to him or Medrik that may have been the reason for what happened in Nairobi.

      As far as, why Saleh went to Nairobi etc, I think that’s a positive thing when I looked at it. It means to me, they have have reached an understanding and that they are working towards the main goal. If I recall, I was critical to Saleh Gadi on his article with regards to Medrik, as it seems to me that he didn’t try to approach them ahead of time before he want on to criticize them, which to me seems that he took pre-emtive measure to curtail any progress they may make. I said the same thing when he wrote about ELL I think is called, as I believe it’s everyone within their own right to associate, to group, to discuss what ever they wish as long as they don’t have any bad ill thoughts to others.

      My main reaction is, the actions Andebrehan took unilaterally from preventing Saleh Gadi to attend the meeting, after all the travel they went to invite him in the first place. To me to sound the same tactic that we have faced with the PFDJ/EPLF goons for years and they are suppose to be “free” from that culture but it seems that every time they seem to get funds “NGO”, they turn and act exactly the same way as the PFDJ boss. This culture is what is shocking to me…and that needs to be completely opposed on.

      Why are the PFDJ goons do NOT calculate the RISK and when they take such actions which derail the over progress that we made. Tell me, you may know more but do you expect Saleh Gadi to keep quite and pretend like nothing happened, specially for a man who fought injustice against the PFDJ for such a long time.

      What happened in Nairobi or what ever progress made in the conference, considering the reaction of most people and a lot more that I don’t know people are following, even if Saleh wants this to be non-issue are people discussing with regards to the conference.

      Why can’t they calculate this RISK and allow the meeting to happen, even if he doesn’t like this?

      My advice to Saleh G, please go ahead and focus your attention to the funding of noble projects that you think you want to lead. And submit all possible ways to get the funds that you need and deserve and that will put you in equal footing like those who want to dictate their terms just because they have the funds.

      But realistically speaking, I personally are sick and tired of this conference and that conference year in and year out without any tangible outcome. It’s easy to criticize from outside but, do we really NEED that many conference, meeting to discuss what’s wrong in our country and come up with a plan to remove the dictator, which is the root cause of all our problems. For the amount of conferences they have held you think by now they have found the solution to climate change or they have re-written the constitution, the panel codes, or the universal declaration of human rights or what have you by now.

      I have NEVER seen any conference outcome concluded with action ITEMS, in what individuals and political parties or the public SHOULD do to fight the dictator in all ways and means…

      AT team single handily debunked all claims the regime made in the past 15 years…If this opposition leaders do NOT see this, the AT team didn’t ask any special treatment but complete disrespect is really uncalled for.

      What exactly people like Dr. Andebrehan did for the Eritrean people, except terror and humiliation for the Eritrean people.

      Berhe

      • ghezaehagos

        Dear Berhe Areky,
        Long time and nice to see you.
        1. I am glad Saleh went to Nairobi for meeting. God knows, we Eritreans need dialogue forums and I support the forums and participants. Particularly, Saleh who was critical of Medrek, still gave his compatriots a chance to listen to them up close. We need to sit down and talk. Engagement start now, not tomorrow. I am staunch supporter of engagement. We need to know and understand and respect each other, especially with these differing in opinions, notwithstanding how fundamental the disagreement is, especially when we think our disagreement is fundamental. That is the foundation of nation building.
        What I didn’t get is why Saleh wrote in protest of Frankfurt while Nairobi appears Frankfurt 2. I just needed further clarification. He proposed four points and it is good know if these or some of them or one of them has been met in his perspective because in my humble opinion they didn’t.
        2. ON Dr. Andebrhan. I have a feeling that nothing will happen to him from Medrek because of his behaviour in Nairobi. He is too important in Medrek to be confronted or chastised or penalized. As sad as it is, we in the opposition, rarely take responsibility for our actions. And there is no out there to monitor our performance or lack of it. Unless, I stand corrected, it will be business as usual in Medrek. This also applies to other opposition groups too. We live in our respective bubbles, bound by our own made-rules, unaccountable to anyone.
        3. This may come as a surprising, (coming from me, I guess) but I am glad this event happened in Nairobi. One way of seeing it is we Eritreans are capable of doing events, outside Ethiopia which gives us, as general opposition is concerned, more options. Which is a good thing. If we can facilitate democratic change by such kind of venues, then why not? We are not bound by anything but love of our nation and realization of true change in our nation. Anything that helps to that is dearly welcome. Moreover, this crippling status quo that stunted our struggle against the tyranny HAS to be tested and change.
        4. The most important factor is: are we really looking for bringing opposition groups into one forum/table. If we are really committed for that, then Nairobi can only be seen as a starting place with acknowledgment that more NEED to be done in the future. If Medrek is true to its words, we expect it will also reach out to those who didn’t make it to Nairobi, (they know them very well, if not we can all help.) And, it is also incumbent upon all of us, to also encourage and reach out to ensure ‘all stakeholders’ (at least most) are welcome to affairs that will affect the destiny of our people. It can be done and I hope God gives us the wisdom and determination to rise to the occasion.
        Thanks,
        Ghezae Hagos

        • Berhe Y

          Selam Ghezae arkey,

          We hope, kem Afka yigberelna. I personally do not see anything tang able will come from the political parties. It’s just the nature of business.

          I hear good things happening in your corner, weldone.

          I also heard that BBC will be starting to Eritrea.

          Will be in touch.

          Berhe

      • Saleh Johar

        Berhe

        Thank you for he comment, I saw two comments from you that I want to reply to here.

        Some people forget the fluidity of political situation as if they do not change in two or more years. A few years ago someone might have been with the PFDJ and we consider them opponents; but when they join the opposition, the situation is changed, they become allies. Of course, adjusting might take time, some take longer time to adjust, others don’t. As situations change, our positions and how we address them should also change. Otherwise, we will be rigid and stay on the same spot.

        You are wrong on one thing Berhe, throughout my activist life, I never boycotted anyone beyond the lifetime of a crisis if there is one. I do not subscribe to the dictum “fiqri shaash timsel, tsel’ee kwakh tmsel” 🙂 Generally, I maintain good relations with all. My writing about Medrekhw were current events commentary, addressing the situation two years ago, it doesn’t mean it is etched in stone, as situations change, so does my views. I write to advise, and influence, and if that is achieved fully or partially, I have no problem. Don’t we all aspire to get closer to each other? And why should we remain divided if our views coalesce? You might have read a commentator here considering friendship a weakness–it is based on friendship, he lamented. Of course any reconciliation cannot be achieved based on enmity. Friendship makes it easy, and these are not my drinking buddies or neighbors, our friendship is build on our common struggle. I wish people knew friendship is not a liability but an asset if based on common goals that bring the struggle to the forefront. I had good relations with Medrekh members (before, during and after) they became members. But my comments’ aim is to correct, to show a different perspective, and to echo what others (mainly partisan people) could not say openly. In that I become “mezHal Tyyet” but I am not complaining. My criticism should not be misconstrued as an attempt to curtail the rights of others. Not at all. But if one decided to engage in a public affairs, they should be ready for comments, criticisms and praise.

        I reported about the events so that we learn from it, I never delved into anything ourside the perimetsrs of the Nairobi meeting and I am sad it has to sustain an unneccessary dent. Indeed, my issue with Andeberhan is a non issue, though a learning opportunity.

        Finally, I am glad you understood the situations properly–and I used your comment to say other things, I am sure you understand. Unfortunately, people act impulsively without thinking of the damaging consequences, and surprisingly, all are avoidable with a little effort to subdue egos.

        Thank you for the trust, Berhe, and I will count on you on a few things you seem to know about. I will contact you soon.

        • Berhe Y

          Dear Saleh,

          I am sorry if I had to make you explain, that people can hold different opinions at different times. What I wrote was to explain to Ghezae that you Saleh and Medrek have come along way, and this action by Andebrhan was completely unnecessary. I meant to say my view “at the time”, it should serve as an example to proof read my comments before I hit send.

          Berhe

    • tes

      Dear Gezae,

      Befor SGJ responds to your question I want to ask you this:

      Is Ethiopia a strategic ally or a strategic location for those opposition who are stationed in Ethiopia?

      tes

      • Haile Kidane

        Deart Tes,

        I like wrong answer for the right question than a right answer for the wrong question. The current government, TPLF, doesn’t represent the whole country it only represents the tiny minority Tigray. Now the right question is: Is TPLF a strategic ally or a strategic location for those opposition who are stationed in TPLF? Now, it is easy you can even answer your own question.

        bruk maalti

        • tes

          Dear Haile Kidane,

          I don’t see the Ethiopian government as the way you do. He is is much bigger.

          tes

        • Nitricc

          Hi Haile, please take it easy with my friend Tes. You are asking him way over his head questions. You asked Tes a brilliant question and not only Tes had no clue but it is hilarious the way he butchered it lol
          Question by Haile!
          “Is TPLF a strategic ally or a strategic location for those opposition who are stationed in TPLF?”
          Answer by Tes!
          “I don’t see the Ethiopian government as the way you do. He is is much bigger.”
          Hahahahahah thanks for the laugh, Tes, who is “he” though?

          • tes

            Dear Nitric,

            He here represents Ethiopian Government. Thanks you got something to laugh. It is very hard to initiative laughter for people’s mind like Nitricc. Seldom I read you laughing.

            tes

          • Ted

            Hi Nitricc, tes is an asset either way you look at it; when he was in Eritrea, he made the youth hate PFDJ; now he is in diaspora, he is doing the same making us uneasy about opposition. The best export of shaebia ever.

          • tes

            Dear Ted,

            I feel sorry for you. You championed being an OTTO. now you are trying another deceit. Good luck.

            tes

      • Saleh Johar

        Tes,
        This is an excellent question–it needs pondering and mature appraisal.

        • tes

          Dear Saleh Johar,

          It is my second time that I am addressing this question to Gezae. I will continue to ask until he responds. I hope he will give an honest response one day.

          Thank you.

          tes

          • PTS

            tes
            Gezae will not answer. He is here to ask only…

          • tes

            Dear PTS,

            As a de facto spokesman of those opposition who are based in Ethiopia I think he he the right person to be asked. Just lets hope that he will not decline to respond.

            tes

            +I never expected Gezae Hagos to mix political parties with Civic Societies. In fact this is the very basic confusion within the justice seeking camp. Those who were present were only political organizations.

      • Dear tes,
        This is a simple question and it has a simple answer; at least from the Ethiopian side. The
        extent to which Ethiopia is a strategic ally or even a strategic location depends on the national interest of Ethiopia. National interest is the ultimate litmus test with which an alliance or any other relationship for that matter is going to be measured. Yes, Ethiopia wants DIA and the PFDJ to go away, but as she has indirectly pointed out on different occasions, whoever comes to power
        in Eritrea after the PFDJ must be in the position to control the country, keep peace and avoid chaos, at least in the early phase. Ethiopia does not want to pay for this one way or the other or be paid for any services. True, Ethiopia does not want a country in chaos to the north of her borders, while she already has one to the south.

        This shows that everything lies on the shoulders of the opposition, whether they are stationed in Ethiopia or elsewhere, which unfortunately, is still far from creating a common front, let alone hold power. Even If the PFDJ regime were to implode due to its own failures and internal contradictions, there is no united opposition that could fill the void. Therefore, nobody should ask Ethiopia to play any major role, or pay for the blunders of others, simply because some opposition are stationed in Ethiopia, or because Ethiopia does not like the PFDJ. Everyone is for himself, and how much Ethiopia is to help depends on how much the opposition is ready to help itself, and even that depends on Ethiopian national interest. Ethiopia has no obligation to anyone and she will not allow to be used by anybody.
        NEVER.

        • tes

          Dear Horizon,

          As expected and as many Ethiopian based opposition camps expect so you came and responded. You jumped and responded without a call. That is exactly what we are not really OK with.

          Dear Horizon though I respect you I don’t expect you to respond for what ever response you have. If you want I have more than dozens of questions to you and likes which they need an honest answer. Leave now this question to Gezae.

          Do not worry though Gezae will not respond. No matter how I will continue to ask him tirelessly.

          Regards

          tes

          • Dear tes,
            There are two sides to your question, the opposition side (Gezae), which I am not trying to replace in any way imaginable, and the Ethiopian side, which was the object of my response.
            Regards.

          • tes

            Dear Horizon,

            Here is a magnified mistake. There is no Ethiopian side in my question. But most Ethiopians can not be free of such perception. The reason is very simple. Most Ethiopians see the opposition camp as an ally and hence they do not feel any shame to interject as they believe they are already part of the endeavor. And you are not an exception.

            Just wait if you have a patience to do so.

            tes

          • ghezaehagos

            Selam Tes,

            Kemey Aleka?

            It is not that I don’t want to respond. I discussed the question of Ethiopia so many times. In this page, I would just like to discuss the Nairobi meeting as Saleh knows more about that. If it helps, I am not simply bound by Ethiopia only mantra. I wrote, “One way of seeing it is we Eritreans are capable of doing events, outside Ethiopia which gives us, as general opposition is concerned, more options. Which is a good thing. If we can facilitate democratic change by such kind of venues, then why not? We are not bound by anything but love of our nation and realization of true change in our nation. Anything that helps to that is dearly welcome.. “and please don’t flatter me, I am not the defacto spokesperson of anyone.
            We will continue to discuss Ethiopia’s role in our cause and it undying issue and it will until change comes.
            Thanks,
            Ghezae

          • tes

            Dear ghezaehagos,

            The question I asked has relevance to what you are asking. I am very specific as it has implication to what you said. I am not asking for clarification here and if you do welcome.

            With regards

            tes

    • Dear Ghezae,
      ,
      Since the topics are connected, I will try to respond to all together.

      First, there is a big difference between what Happened in Frankfurt and Nairobi–I will come to that below. But first, I did not make a connection between the two. A Berhe explained, I was trying to give a background which might explain what followed—maybe someone thought they are connected, but it is not me. Now for your question:

      1. I thought the Frankfurt meeting could have been handled better and expressing my view on the way it was handled doesn’t contradict with Nairobi. I had nothing against Frankfurt apart from the wish to make it better. It was up to the organizers to accept my suggestions or reject it. It ends there.

      2. What satisfied me with Nairobi was the fact that it was on the woks for a long time and everyone (emphasize, political organization) was invited. Some rejected the invitation others attended. The Frankfurt event was cherry picking. That is what you missed.

      3. The participants were not the same—partial invitation and general invitation cannot be the same.

      4. Since our problems is of political (rather partisan) nature, I believe political wrangling should be left to political parties. Others can influence, lobby, pressure for the common goals of the struggle. No big chunk was left our from the political organization, in fact no one. The decision not to attend is not the responsibility of the Nairobi meeting. Defining it as Intra-baito is less correct that calling it partisan considerations. It is sad, but that is the reason some didn’t attend.

      5. I believe and said it clearly that I do not see a difference between Birr and Dollar. I will antagonized when the funder manages a meeting. I wish everyone could secure funds to run their events on their own. I object to events being led by anyone whether it is Birr, dollars, pounds or Croner. What Medrekh did is an attempt to “ positive rapprochement and they [tried to] live by their words.

      6. All ofthem. The preparation for the meeting was more than enough; there was no external manager in the meeting; the invitation were sent to all stakeholders, the invitees were strictly political organizations. All my recommendations were met.
      7. I do not want this to branch out into a different issue, but I wouldn’t consider Nairobi meeting a human right issue, it was a political meeting.

      Dear Ghezae, I hope I answered most of your question and I hope they are helpful. Please continue to seek clarification on things you do not understand—and keep probing.

      Thank you.

    • Saleh Johar

      Dear Ghezae,
      ,
      Since the topics are connected, I will try to respond to all together.

      First, there is a big difference between what Happened in Frankfurt and Nairobi–I will come to that below. But first, I did not make a connection between the two. A Berhe explained, I was trying to give a background which might explain what followed—maybe someone thought they are connected, but it is not me. Now for your question:

      1. I thought the Frankfurt meeting could have been handled better and expressing my view on the way it was handled doesn’t contradict with Nairobi. I had nothing against Frankfurt apart from the wish to make it better. It was up to the organizers to accept my suggestions or reject it. It ends there.

      2. What satisfied me with Nairobi was the fact that it was on the woks for a long time and everyone (emphasize, political organization) was invited. Some rejected the invitation others attended. The Frankfurt event was cherry picking. That is what you missed.

      3. The participants were not the same—partial invitation and general invitation cannot be the same.

      4. Since our problems is of political (rather partisan) nature, I believe political wrangling should be left to political parties. Others can influence, lobby, pressure for the common goals of the struggle. No big chunk was left our from the political organization, in fact no one. The decision not to attend is not the responsibility of the Nairobi meeting. Defining it as Intra-baito is less correct that calling it partisan considerations. It is sad, but that is the reason some didn’t attend.

      5. I believe and said it clearly that I do not see a difference between Birr and Dollar. I will antagonized when the funder manages a meeting. I wish everyone could secure funds to run their events on their own. I object to events being led by anyone whether it is Birr, dollars, pounds or Croner. What Medrekh did is an attempt to “ positive rapprochement and they [tried to] live by their words.

      6. All ofthem. The preparation for the meeting was more than enough; there was no external manager in the meeting; the invitation were sent to all stakeholders, the invitees were strictly political organizations. All my recommendations were met.
      7. I do not want this to branch out into a different issue, but I wouldn’t consider Nairobi meeting a human right issue, it was a political meeting.

      Dear Ghezae, I hope I answered most of your question and I hope they are helpful. Please continue to seek clarification on things you do not understand—and keep probing.

      Thank you.

      • ghezaehagos

        Selam Saleh,
        I thank you for your replies. And the manner in which you did it.
        I didn’t respond immediately because I wanted to check some facts. Not surprisingly what you wrote to me and what others are saying don’t check out. Need more probing:) per your advice:)
        I will restrict myself to these queries.
        1. For any casual observer, it is no brainer to see the almost copy-cut similarity of the participants of Frankfurt workshop and Nairobi. But you said they are not related. Ok that is fine. Let us go to Nairobi.
        2. You said only political organizations were invited during the five months prep to Nairobi. Can you tell me dear Saleh why some of our compatriots that I think belong to civic groups were there? The only explanation I can think of is as reps of political organizations. If I can ask you, were you invited as representative of political organization? If so, can you tell me which one?
        3. Like I mentioned earlier, I asked around. I was informed that some political organizations say they were never invited to Nairobi. It helps if you can tell us how the invitation were done? In writing, I assume and when they were sent to and the list of them if you have it, in spirit of transparency and clarity.
        I reckon, quite legitimately, that you never shy away from repeatedly mentioning the need of diversity and inclusiveness in matters of the nation, especially in forums of national conversation and discourse, such as Nairobi. I feel a bit puzzled to see you feel satisfied with the participants of the political organizations in Nairobi. Clearly, that is not the case. There are political organizations, with bigger membership, and influence in our opposition that were NOT simply there. And I am trying to know why. You and all of us know, if not done correctly, events, instead of helping further polarizes us and we have to avert it as much as we can.
        The conclusion: The take-away is we can do better tomorrow and let us keep building bridges and forums.
        Yours,
        Ghezae Hagos

    • Solomon Haile

      Selamat ThuMKT,

      Thanks for posting. With you post I see a little clarity with regards to the lines delineated. I think you may have given thought to our conversation on the my opinion of what JOKE YG is. …
      … I also have a personal Vendeta to settle with him..I don’t think he is worth anything though.

      I broke my arm and am in a cast right now..The itche is painful…
      I sincerely learned something from your post. Tell Arkikika NOT to fear chess metaphors.
      tSAtSE

      • tes

        Dear Solomon Haile,

        Once one falls in love with something it is really hard to abandon though he/she might pick his laggage several times. Just stay here, calm down and engage. Just be a bird than an ant. Brotherly piece

        tes

      • Berhe Y

        Hi Solomon,

        You broke your arm, this is what people call blessing in disguise. I am not happy that you broke your arm, I wish you speedy recovery but I think it will slow you down. You may get a chance to read rather than type endlessly.

        Berhe

    • Haile Kidane

      Hi Gezae Hagos (Mr. hit and run)

      I am just curious when was the last time you initiate a discussion and enlighten forumers? Honestly I don’t remember. It is totally not fair to use the forum mainly to scrutinize the two Saih’s, promote Ethiopian intervention and sanction against Eritrean people. It is crystal clear that the Ethiopia episode hasn’t produced anything; in fact,it’s failed miserably and left the people with no choice. In fact people are now tilting to consider the idea of REFORM given they lost hope from the so called opposition groups. DEAD-END!

      BRUKLAYTI

      • ghezaehagos

        Haile Kidane,

        Hasot hatyat iyu…I never called for Ethiopian intervention…Remember even Medrek has left the idea of reform. ..It is dead-end. They are now espousing regime-change.Abey aleka niska..Dead-End!… Listen to Shengeb in VOA…

        • Haile Kidane

          Selam gezae Hagos,

          It depends on your definition of intervention. If you have no problem with Ethiopia financing or funding the opposition groups, then you are welcoming intervention which is not restricted only to military support. As for reform, I only said people are losing hope and contemplating to entertain the idea of reform. I didn’t say anything about Medrekh and its agenda.

          As where the situation is heading is please read: http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2013/12/ethiopia-eritrea-brothers-at-war-no-more-201312111228604587.html

          Bruk Malti

  • SenaiErtrawi

    Brother SGJ,
    At the end of the day, it will be about who got the “hard power” as opposed to “soft power” which does have much value when it comes to third world politics. If Medrekh is paying for travel expenses for all the participants including yourself, it is clearly ahead of you in terms of having “hard power”. The more “hard power” Medrekh gets, the more ex-ELF buddies of you it will take away from your side.

    “we will see how many people will sell me out and how many will turn against him.”

    Don’t forget, Isaias was able to get many of your ex-ELF leaders on his side 🙂

  • Tesfa Sinqu

    Selamat all

    I have a question, a question which I did not get a clear answer from anyone. I hope
    someone will answer me boldly.

    Most of us agree that Eritrea is currently ruled by a dictatorial regime that has no any religious affiliation. All religions in Eritrea are equally suffering under current PFDJ cult. I believe freedom of worship is basic human right.

    Here is my question

    Is “Islam” is suffering more than any other religions in Eritrea? If not what is the need of multiple “Islamic” parties?

    Of the 12 participant parties of the Nairobi Conference the following parties
    has a name “Islamic”

    1. Eritrean Islamic Islah Movement

    2. Eritrean Islamic Congress

    3. Eritrean Islamic Party for Justice & Development
    Regards

    • Tafla

      Selam,

      Don’t talk about it, you’ll be called a bigot 🙂 I think rxaggerations of muslims being the ones suffering most is used to unite all muslims to ultimately realize the dream of an Uslamic nation that speaks one languge. Eritrean history has a red thread, follow it and you’ll see how we got here.

      All the best!

    • adarob

      Dear tesfa,
      When you say:
      “All religions in Eritrea are equally suffering under current PFDJ cult”. Do the muslims deny your right by fighting for their right? The muslim movment never denayed the right of thier christian brothers. The muslim opposition plaýed a guiding role and inspired many christian brothers by not compromising with thier right. We can’t denay them the right to oppose the establishment that marginalising them. Do you feel marginalised as much as your mislim brother do? I beg you to answer my question and thank you for asking that means you care.

  • Nitricc

    Hi Lilay;
    I have no problem with what you are saying but why provide SJ with an Air ticket if they don’t want him in their conference? This episode tells me the disorganization and lack of attention to the details by the Medrek. They don’t even know who they are inviting to? Wasting an air ticket for the person they don’t want. Why provide SJ with the ticket?

    • dawit

      Dear Nitricc,
      How do you know that Medrek organized the meeting? Did Medrek raise the money from Eritrean sources to discus Eritrean issues? Who ever paid for this conference invited every one including Medrek and assigned what role they will play. If Medrek was the organizer, they would have known who they invited before hand. I believe every one of the participants were in Nirobi for the free plate of Ugali or Posho.

      • Nitricc

        Hey dawit, hahaha why are you doing this man? I am trying to be positive for once tto put teeth on this toothless Eritrean opposition. Now you are asking me this particular question I choose to ignore. Lol, well dawit, I have no idea who financed this expensive conference. I do pray that there is no TPLF hand on this one. As far as I am concern; it could be the weyane work all the way. I know TPLF will not spare any expense to bring down PIA. One way or the other, it will come out the real financer of Nairobi.

        • Tazabi

          It was financed by US agents but Nairobi was picked to give it new flavor or pretend that TPLF was behind it. So it has TPLF/handlers finger print all over. In all fairness though, Medrek has to befriended even with devil himself to remain relevant in the exiled opposition movement. However, at the end of the day? One who pays the piper calls the tunes!

        • dawit

          Dear Natricc,
          You can’t put real tooth for a toothless person. You can only fit them with denture, or artificial tooth! But thanks for your effort even an artificial tooth is better for a smile but you cant replace PIA’s real smile.

  • Nebro

    You do not qualify as per the qualifications to the meeting. You don’t represent any political organization. Also, you have predicted that MEDREK is doomed to die in a season. I find your writing immature. You have a problem with Dr. Andeberhan and should resolve it ethically.

    • dawit

      Dear Nebro,
      Good Observation and suggestion. Who ever paid the bill for the meeting controls the agenda and what roll each puppet would play. Our man got a free ticket and lunch to show up in the conference and others were paid to discuss what ever the puppet master agenda was on the table. Non of the participants decide what the agenda or what role they play, that is the responsibility of the puppet master. No need to complain after the fact..

      • Solomon Haile

        Awatista dawit,

        You have cleared security.

        sOLO

        • dawit

          My dear son Solo;
          I have clear security sometimes when the guards are dozing on the watch. Nowadays you are acting like elephant, that is why the censorship guard never miss you. You better be the tsatse to slip dodge the security, and don’t forget the salutation, that sends a red flag immediately. That is my fatherly advice. .

    • Solomon Haile

      Selam, Nebro,

      “Kuntal BeliEjka Temeles!”

      Why the Anbush? This ain’t the Bush.. No for non de gut.
      Give us a debate between Ato SaliH Ghadi and Ato AndebreHan?

      Fareed (our Brgied 72) will allow your nom de gut.

      Tes, Reformers.. No.. I would like to know if my French spelling is good.

      This message shall not reach Ato SaliH Ghadi.
      LIVE DEBATE! Mr. SaliH Ghadi represents ME…AND ALL Awatustas good Anbasafor Bebro.

      Solomon Haile Ghebreslasie.

  • Nitricc

    Hi SJ, first of all, I command you for your civility and coolness; for you to leave silently from a conference you belong. I have no doubt, if you had challenged the decision of AW, temper and anger would have flare up, leading in to ensuing chaos. What is hard to comprehend is, they sent you an air ticket and they know you were coming, once you get their; it doesn’t make sense to block you. I will wait to hear the other side of the story before I rendered my take but for now; I command you for showing Eritrea’s issues is bigger than your own ego and than of your right. You have the right to be in any Eritrean organized political event.
    Having said that, I think this Medrek thing could work. I like their tone and approach. They are less talkative, less combative and lay-back politicians. And they are the first to have the sense to hold a conference out side of Ethiopia and they are the first to respect the feeling of the Eritrean people. I have said it all along; any opposition that will come from Ethiopia not only will never be accepted but will never be materialized. They seem to understand the feeling of the silent majority. They could be the one we have been looking for although their action excluding concerned Eritreans is very concerning. We will see!!!

  • T..T.

    Hi Solomon Haile,

    Allow me to sum up what you have been explained on tampering with brakes of your car or driving safely:

    You appear to be knowingly chipping the windshield of your driven car in order not to read the hard truth clearly (from inside the car) while driving. As a result, the chipped windshield is increasing your inability to articulate your points.

    If it is not the chipped windshield or brake, a cup of coffee is believed to help one, who is driving erratically due to drunk driving, in order to drive safely. The coffee may also help to avoid taking pleasure in badmouthing and turn confusion or blurred vision to clarity as well as it helps to avoid engaging in deadliest forms of denial of reality on ground – pedestrians crossing roads or bikers.

    • Solomon Haile

      Selam T.T.,

      Thank you for your wisdom and advice. I know acT.T., and for a brief moment, I thought could it be her?…(you could be a him…accronym.l.I hear you loud and clear!.

      I had coffee and Blue BlueBerry Muffins in a Lutherun Church Today. Hard boiled eggs

      (“Ova” Senai Senaitey AbrehetbAbrehaley.,,”Give us another Brother Moses–Mussie aBEReHE…Ya Seidna SaIeed..Eid Almalahi..ohhhh how I wish it ciould be you! Fidelity–at Monolisas at Bleeker Streetin the Adi..the Village)

      Sister/Brother; I tell you the truth over the continental breakfast the first reading was Malichai 3:14(I think? And I shall make sure for I know the verse…I was rather preoccupied with the chaos and and my erratic driving…for Netale was spent in the Apatment complex adjacent to ThecUnited Nations School in the Empire/state on occasion) …

      I hear you Sister/Brother (Is it you Sister! BTseytey?)
      I know that God is Great! I have always known and believed.. But today, your message I receive Oh Lord, for I you fed me in your House!
      ( Sister could it be you? ‘Ty’s The Season to be Joly. alHamduAlah! I want to go Carrolin! I want to ding along the songs of Hanuka..i want to Hear Jingle Bells and the Red shiny nose Rudolf I haven’t seen the snow flakes and in a decade + I want to give and receive gifts..
      This morning I attended Bible Study..
      And this evening I felt no fear.
      It is God’s Will..
      And here you are T.T. seeing through. the clouds of my cracked windshield telling me with Clarity. I will not ask is realy you..for in a compound much like semester/Three/Telata
      I learned of the story that will be told. The story of all Victorians the story of the three dots: “…” The story of Awatistas!
      I had a continental breakfast in The House if God Today.
      Happy Holidays.
      Happy Birthday The Great.
      Thank you T.T.
      tSAtSE

  • dawit

    Ayneta,
    Yes I live comfortably in the West. But who is holding you back from going to Eritrea and fighting PFDJ if you truly believe in what you preach. There is plenty of AK-14 in Eritrea even the government could provide you if you have the gut.That is what IA and PFDJ did to get the power they exercise, to lead the Eritrean people. You are not going to change the lives of Eritrean people by shouting and insulting from 10,000 miles distance. Just keep quite and eat your free lunch.

  • Abdat

    Of course, this is good; thanx for reminding me. Salutation to you Adarob: Dabaywa.
    Moderator My last response to SJG did not show on the page.
    If you can upload it will be nice. If not, no worries, let us give SJG some rest.

  • Meda Ethiopia

    Meda Ethiopia
    Hi
    The battle of Nairobi is equal to the battle between EmbaysoYra & Ghergis
    sebEta tried to pass through the defense of EmbaysoYra could not do it .Elas Mesmer was successfully defended the game
    The king maker Ahmed Abdella ( magic) did pass through the defense of Ghergis scored 2 goals.The game ended with victory. Not only the local community but also our cousins who work in & around Meda Ethiopia were celebrating

  • dawit

    Just for your information, life goes on in Eritrea, Curtsey of Dehai from Hadas Eritrea
    http://www.dehai.org/archives/dehai_news_archive/2015/nov/0628.html

    • tes

      Hi Dawit,

      You then expect life to stop, right? No Mr. Cultist the life you mention in Eritrea is not life. It is what is called in Evolutionary Biology, “>Survival of the Fittest”.

      Berbere – 700-1100 Nakfa/kg
      Fire Wood – 800-1200 Nakfa/kg

      The rest is really shocking.

      tes

      • PTS

        tes,
        rent – 1000 to 5000
        kuntal ekli – 2000 to 5000
        salary – 500-12000
        I am guessing ppl eat food. where do they get the money if they have no diaspora help?

        • dawit

          Hi PTS,

          Do you suggest that the diasporas to stop helping their relative at home? May be your next sanction suggestion against the Eritrean people and government will be that. Here is what Eritrean mothers are doing at home while you roam and shout in European and American cities to sanction Eritrea.

          http://www.tesfanews.net/eritrean-women-conservation-mai-nefhi-dam-catchment-area/
          Regards
          dawit

          • PTS

            dawit,
            No I was just wondering about the families whose monthly expense is between 5,000-10,000 nakfa live on monthly salary of 500-1,200. You seem like a nice person who helps out his family back home. But what about the less fortunate families that do not have source of income outside the 500-1,200, how do they manage to make ends meet? It is mind-boggling!

          • dawit

            PTS,
            If I told you there is no economic hardship in the country, I must be lying. There is plenty, but the people who make the 500-1200 are mostly the government civil servants and national service employees. Most of the civil servants are ex-EPLF fighters who passed through hardship worst than their present situation under independence. Their rent is not as high as the rest of the civilian population, most were able to buy their houses from the nationalized houses from the Ethiopian occupation era. The government also pays a lot of subsidy for basic food items, where prices are not as high as in the private sector. Many families are also subsidized by their close relatives and friends in the diaspora. Those people in the private sectors play by the rule of the market of demand and supply. As a bar owner if I buy a bottle of beer for 5 Nakfa, I sell it for 6 Nakfa, making 1Nakfa profit, and if I sell 5000-10,000 bottles a month, then I make that much profit that I can afford to spend 5000-1000 Nakfa a month or if am a taxi driver I made that much. Now there are some people who may fall in the cracks, that may depend on the charities of others, Those are the Government is desperately trying to help, by creating training and job opportunities and that where the few disgruntled opposition play by preventing the government effort to collect a 2% tax from the diaspora, or trying to secure development aid and the opposition allied with historic enemies of Eritrea, trying to frustrate its efforts.
            Just to give a simple example I posted a link to Tesfanews, that showed what a tegadalit mother is doing fighting Environmental degradation, building terraces and planting trees at Mai Nefhi water shade . It was too much for AT censorship squad, they have to remove it. I never expected that AT will stoop so law to prevent their viewers and yet they accuse PFDJ of preventing freedom of expression in Eritrea! .

          • tes

            Hi dawit,

            Naive you are now you passed ahead, ignorant!

            Beer is of minimum 25 Nakfa/300ml. And any given Bar has limited amount. There is no supply-demand law practice(forget your 101 ECON). There is only a supply and that supply is based on coupon.

            Any given bar will allow of maximum 2 bottles of Beer and this is when there is distribution. If not most of the time Bars sell Areki(about 48% Alcohol). And this has caused alcoholic people which they are dying at alarming rate due to liver disease (Fegato). No food as it is hyper expensive. Per meal, 300-400 Nakfa.

            tes

          • dawit

            Hi tes, the wise man,
            If pearl millet is 400 Nakfa, that means the farmer can afford to buy 25 Nakfa beer or a bottle of Areki for 100 Nakfa and if he gets Fegato there is free medical services in the country.

          • tes

            Dear dawit,

            Haha don’t you follow your Eri TV saying “rain was not enough this year”? No harvest this year.

            By the way if they sell pearl millet(Bultug) – it is for sugar(150 Nakfa/kg), Coffee (400 Nakfa/kg). I remember my mother using Barley instead of coffee in 1990 and 1991 crisis. Same is now used.

            tes

          • dawit

            Dear tes,
            if there is drought this year that is normal. California had drought recently but you don’t see people dying because of lack of food. As usual PFDJ will buy bultug from Sudan or India selling the Bisha gold or salt from Red Sea. They could even smuggle taf from Gojam. You know they are good on that business. Your mother is a smart lady, she improvise with what she has, if barely can replace tea or coffee, that is great and even better than coffee and tea that is full of caffeine. Some doctors (Seventh Days Adventists) recommend roast barley instead of coffee or tea as a beverage. Do you know that Eritrea is the center of origin for barley according to Vavilov?. .

      • dawit

        Hi TES;
        Two weeks a ago every one at AT was predicting the sky will fall in Eritrea because of the exchange of the old Nakfa with the new Nakfa. Guess what that did not happen. What you described of price increases is called inflation. What can you expect in a country that that is struggling under economic embargo or sanction? I think you can congratulate yourself for that, the only achievement of the opposition groups, putting Eritrea under UN sanctions. But sanctions or economic hardship never kneel down Eritrean people or the government. Eritrean people are still solidly behind their government.
        Regards,
        dawit

        • Amanuel

          Hi dawit
          There is no economic sanction against Eritrea by UN. There is arms embargo. However there is economic embargo by PFDJ against the Eritrean people. Don’t create confusion.

          • dawit

            Hi Amanuel,
            Embargo is Embargo, don’t try to split it between ‘Economic’ and ‘Arms’. Money is fungible. The same money buy food and ammunition. I think you are the one confused, the Eritrean people know clearly there is an economic and political sanctions against Eritrea since 1950s.

          • Olana

            Dear Dawit
            That means your people were better off under the King and Dergi than the Isaiah era?

          • dawit

            Dear Olana
            You should ask that question to Brtukan one of the 15 million starving people in Ethiopia!

          • Olana

            Dear Dawit
            Why don’t you ask the 5 million starving people in Eritrea? The ratio is 10 to 2 in Ethiopia at maximum and 5 to 5 in Eritrea after removing the Diaspora assistance to their families. I know Eritreans are unique people in helping not only their families but also friends and distant relatives.

          • dawit

            Dear Olana,
            Are you Math major? The 5 million starving in Eritrea are taken care by their government? How about the 90 millions starving Ethiopians? Soon it seems there will be another “We are the world’ concert, soon to save Birtukan and her children..

          • Amanuel

            Hi dawit
            This is deliberate misinformation. There is big difference between economic and arms embargo. Arms embargo is impose on irresponsible regimes to stop them from going to war against their neighbours and people. However, economic sanction is imposed on credible economy. From what we know the regime you are defending hasn’t got an economy warrants sanction. PFDJ imposed an economic sanction against Eritrean people in 2006 by choking the little economic activities left in the country. There fore there is no need for one. As per the arms embargo it is a blessing in disguise as far as the Eritrean people is concern. Because it keeps the mad man in its cage.

          • dawit

            Hi Amanuel,
            The mad man is loved and protected by the Eritrean people. Eritreans never went to war against their neighbors, they only fought for self defense against their aggressive enemies who invaded their country..

          • Amanuel

            Hi dawit
            It seems that you have accepted economic and arms embargo are two different things. I have known you from past experience when ever you loss a debate you create a deflection. Now the mad man is your deflection from the main debate. Well, I tell you what! The mad man is loved by his people like your self but not by the majority of Eritrean people. You can say he is scared and don’t trust the majority of the people and if it wasn’t for that he would have no problem to have elections.

          • dawit

            Hi Amanuel,
            dawit never deflect the topic, you raise about the’ mad man’ and I gave you the answer. People like are like parrots, they tell you to scream PIA Mad, drunk, dictator, Eritrea North Korea and you keep repeating such phrases You seem you have a reading and comprehension challenges. “Embargo is Embargo”. Yes the ‘election trick’ does not work in Eritrea. Only the living martyrs PIA and PFDJ lead the Eritrean people. They trust their people and armed them with guns to protect themselves and their leaders..

          • Amanuel

            Hi dawit
            I have first hand experience to know whether he is mad or not. About 20 years ago I worked under him and I know what I am talking about.
            In the mid 90 ties when you were living in your second country (ethiopia) there was a managed election, the last election of PFDJ CC. As expected IA handed a list of nominees to Haile Drue. Having checked the list Drue learned that M.Hagos was not on the list and asked IA why. After having lame excuses IA gave up and Drue included M.Hagos taking off another law ranking administrator of Hagaz. Guess what happened, M.Hagos ended up getting more votes than IA. Since that day IA learned that he is not the favourite one any more even with in PFDJ and never trusted any one with election.

            About embargo for the last time there are different types of embargo. Some to name
            1) economic 2) arms 3) travel 4) diplomatic 5):flight. As far as this world is concerned the one imposed and implemented on PFDJ regime is the arms one. You can have a dream and have others on your own world.

            At last I have a personal question. Do you have a day job or this is your main job? Because I note you are corresponding with three to four people at the same time. How do you manage it? I must admit I struggle to keep up with you.

          • dawit

            Hi Amanuel;

            First you assume too much. I was not in Ethiopia in the 90s. I emigrated to US in 1980s. As usual your first hand information and working under PIA is bela-below, that many Eritreans known fore. You fabricate news out of the thin air, like PIA died and buried few years ago and he is sick and dying in recent months!

            About embargo you can list as many embargos you wish, but the fact remains ‘Embargo is Embargo’!

            On your personal question, what can I say? I am simply smart multi tasking and multi talented. I know how to manage my time.Yes I have a day work that pays me handsomely enough for me to do what I wanted to do, take vacation travel all over the world. I also invest my resources well and my money works hard while I corresponds here at AT and other Eritrean websites!
            My advise to you learn how to manage your time, I recommend a time management course. Do you know we all have 24 hours a day? The difference between Bill Gates the richest person on the planet and a homeless person how they use that 24 hours.
            Regards,
            dawit

          • Amanuel

            Hi dawit

            About living in Ethiopia some time ago someone said you have been kicked out of Ethiopia in 1998 war and you didn’t refute it, so I assumed it must be true (knowing you). If i am wrong sorry. But don’t make a big meal about it. It is true you consider Ethiopia your second country and you were not in Eritrea in the 90s.

            I don’t fabricate news what i have said is all true. About embargo your position is like” ትንፈር ኣይትንፈር ጤል ኢያ።”

            To be honest the personal question was kind of sarcastic trap. Have you heard the Tigrigna saying goes like “ንለባም ኣምተሉ እንታይ ከይስሕቶ፡ ንዓሻኸ ደርጉሓሉ እንታይ ከይፈልጦ።” As expected you jumped the gun and started to brag. I am afraid, your position on PFDJ, your writing and behaviour doesn’t support your claim. You are rather a desperate mercenary running around to please his master.

          • dawit

            Hi Amanuel,
            Do you think I have the time to refute every lie people write about me? You are lying when you write ” knowing you”. You don’t know me beside what I write here at AT. Yes I am an Eritrean and an Ethiopian. Is that news to you? I was born and lived in Ethiopia, I still visit Ethiopia regularly in fact I have a plan to visit Ethiopia and Eritrea next summer. Yes also I was in Eritrea in 1993 and 1994. I celebrated the first Independence in Eritrea in May 1993..and looking forward to celebrate the 25 Jubilee next May.

            You also wrote “About embargo your position is like” ትንፈር ኣይትንፈር ጤል ኢያ።”. That is true.On the UN sanctions on Eritrea, I have debated with your political gurus, SGJ, SAAY and Amanuel Hidrat extensively before your arrival at AT. They can fill you about my stand.

            You also wrote “You are rather a desperate mercenary running around to please his master”. For your information dawit does not have a master. He has a leader and government that he support wholeheartedly. My signature here at AT is “Znegese Ngusna, Zbereq Tsehaina” and ask any Awatian and they will tell you that. dawit does not change his stand for a plate of spaghetti, kitfo or ugali. That is enough bite for you to chew for a month!

          • Amanuel

            Hi dawit
            That is your main problem. You don’t change even when you are presented with facts and evidence. That is abnormal for human behaviour.

  • Meda Ethiopia

    Meda Ethiopia
    Hi
    Waw I have to go through Meda Ethiopia (ShuK) to gett to Abasawel (awate.com) no offensive with respect
    My nick changed from Abe z Minewale to Betweded for president got blocked
    Out of my character I had to create another nick & location to get back to
    What a sin I am commuting

  • WEDI JOMO

    One of the
    issues of the article of UHURU: An Eritrean Cry From Nairobi written by SGJ is
    that a communicator/writer i.e. SGJ is invited to the Nairobi meeting as a
    politician. In another words, the one who invited him sought him as their
    colleague who would protect their interest even at the expense of his
    profession, which neutrality is its basic principle. If SGJ had represented a
    political party in the Nairobi meeting, we would have other narrations. For
    example Andeberhan Woldegiorgis’s (AW) attitude would be different because now
    he is not facing SGJ, a communicator/writer but a political party figure like
    himself.

    The other issue is the absence of openness to media in the meetings that are
    conducted by Eritrean political parties where most of the time we see their
    leaders disseminate information as they like. That dissemination is the job
    of communicators who have the qualification and experience to provide with
    significant news and information as well as analysis.

    SGJ’s potential as a communicator now and in post PP(JD) Eritrea is
    greater and more significant. SGJ continue the good job!

  • Meda Ethiopia

    Meda Ethiopia
    Hi

    I would act the way Ande did act
    You were adviced by the late Memher not to mess with Eritrean fabric but keep doing it
    You act like mule without bald(winter project )
    I am nominating Saay “intentially”confused intellectual of the year(love Susan Rice) demomonize Cohen when talking about Eritrea which is bigger than the master or monster of Eritrea

  • Solomon Haile

    Selamat SaliH and AT,

    I too shall be resigning soon as an awatista and join an organized Eritrean Resistance to injustice. As I suspect now a younger leadership suits the success of my political stance as I narrate history to them for motivation. I will be shopping and looking at Smerr, Medrekh, YOFDJ etc….tiime for the of guard to start trusting young and vibrant leadership. I will hold on to my heavy artillery political cards on both SaliH Gagdi Andc Isayas Afeworki. The young leaders and discipline of the organization I choose will lead and command and or guide my utility of said wepons. Time to cash in politically folks. My awatista forum activities shall be very limited as I do my due diligence. I do not appreciate the deletion of numerous pistings including the last one directed towards the USA… It doesn’t serve my political agenda. Nor will I remain a servant for others goals and road maps. With much love and respect…Thank you for the privileges. One I allowed you SaliH…yet you continue to purge. All is fair in love and war. I Rove You. tSAtSE

  • Amanuel

    Hi SGJ

    Thanks for well written report. I agree with your take on enhancing and improving on what we have created already, instead of demolishing them. Conferences, like the Nairobi one should build on ENCDC, instead creating alternative once.

    As per Andebrhan action against you, it shows his incompetence and weakness in conflict resolution like his old boss IA. You deserve a praise for sacrificing your pride and ego. As activist you raised above him for the interest of the nation as expected from a true patriot. Well, Mark Twain said “Never pick a fight with people who buy ink by the barrel”. The loss is on him.

    I am afraid I don’t agree with your letter to Dr. Hartmut. Don’t get me wrong what you have said on the letter is true but i don’t think it was presented in fair and diplomatic language. It is too direct for the liking of the Europeans and most of the time direct talk doesn’t succeed in western corridors of power.

    Kind regards
    Amanuel

  • tes

    Dear Solomon Haile,

    I do not know why you are obsessed with Fareed. You told us that you have challenged him 15 years before. Why are you the afraid of his presence? I believe you are much more capable to challenge him if he is around too. Then do not be scared of his presence. Or you thought that he was politically liquidated for good from Awate Forum and he will never come again? If so why are here again after you were banned? I kindly call you to use your skills to challenge anyone whom you don’t agree with with civility not with protectionism.

    tes

  • Saleh Johar

    Hi Abdat,
    You can’t slap a person and then say, “don’t be irritated”. Thousands of articles were published on this website. Editorial, news, opinions, analysis, reportage, etc. you dint mention any of that. You specifically claimed an even (umbrella formation) you specifically accused me of suggesting specific actions. You specifically said I was resent in a meeting and I was expelled. Now you are saying you read a content, probably an opinion. How do you reconcile your specific allegation with what you are claiming now? My dear, make sure your facts are right before you accuse others with no proof or reference. Inn’al fitna ashes mnel qetl. Please do your due diligence before stating such allegations in public. I hope you learned from your mistake.

  • Yoty Topy

    Dear SGJ,

    I was in Nairobi recently on my way to Addis and was awestruck by at the level of urban development in the city. Would you say that NBI is twice the size of Addis in urban mass?

    • Saleh Johar

      Yoty,
      Sorry I can’t answer that. I will write about my personal observation in a lighter tone as I stated in my article. Hope to answer that soon.

    • Solomon Haile

      Salam Yoti Topy,
      Forgive me for interjecting: Per my Kenyan professor on African Urbanization at the Universitu of Albany in the late ’90s: The rapid urbanization of Nairobi and other Afican cities not only made it larger than Addis but without urban planning Nairobi was as ugly if not uglier than Addis. Addis may as well as Nairobi may have changed, but I highly doubt it it’s Africa and Mekele is the beauty of Ethiopia for sure unless equitable distribution of Ethiopia’s budget did give Addis its fare share. In all fare ness it is easier to build a new city than destroy and rebuild an existing one. Human nature being what it is, I suspect the equitable distribution in Ethiopia’s legislature may include lots of pork for the other 12 autonomous regions reps as well as the political capital Weyane had to make Tigray up too par with the others due to the long neglect of Agame and Adua lands.
      My fear of Weyane Return of the Axumite Kingdom to make Eritrea a satellite state like the other Ethiopian regions. MaHmud SaliH warned the same.
      I think I will say goodnight as I maybe perceived as holding the forum hostage.
      But if I may I will ask SaliH Ghadi if he brokered a deal between MedreKh and Weyane with along with the other efforts of organizing the event in Nairobi? Isuspect YES. And there Andebrehan Vs. Ghadi controversy is part of the PR for Medrekh for obvious reasons.
      The people deserve the truth.

      I will now sip on my two buck chuck Tes. California Cab on special occasions.
      For sure Yoti Topi: Everyone should enjoy the finer things in life. Like your name topsy turvy or Mai Grmmmbittt comes forth with political positioning and an Ant ruins the fine packaging and celebrating planned.
      tSAtSE

      • Yoty Topy

        Hi Solomon,

        Without giving away too much of SGJ plot line, Addis has really changed a lot . Especially parts of the city such as Kasanchis and Bole area look like a first world city neighborhoods.

        I encourage you to visit it if you get a chance:)

        By the way, Mekelle is the least liveliest city of the major cities. Too much stifling Woyane presence.

        • Solomon Haile

          Salam Yoty Topy,

          When I hang out with my Ethioian friends and am introduced to a new Ethiopian friend I always fool the by claiming to be from Addis and my choice of neighborhood is always Kasanchuis..There is a long story behind it… Abraham Afeworki +++ a. Good friend from Kasanchis and another from BahrDar…. God willing I look forward to visiting Addis Abeba.
          tSAtSE

  • Abdat

    What goes around comes around.
    I remember when the Eritrean opposition parties started to form an umbrella group. Awate (SJG) stand was to exclude (evict) the religion inspired parties.
    Well, The religion inspired parties were honored to complete the seminar while SJG was evicted.
    Takbar Tenssa ya Abu Salah! Andeberhan planned it well and implemented it boldly.

    • Saleh Johar

      Abdat,
      I think you kbrt we khereft. When did you dream that drama? i bet you my life you cannot prove that. If you did, I give another challenge. If you prove I was evicted or attended any meeting like the one you described, I will stop writing for good. Now be a man of integrity and prove it.

    • Adarob

      Dear Abdat,

      You said, “The religion inspired parties were honored to complete the seminar while SJG was evicted” .
      Honoured by whom? You mean by Andeberhan who defended the PFDJ crime in many years? All delegations come to du their duty and were upset by the irresponsible behaviour of Andeberhan against SJG. By applauding for the doorkeeper you are not only offending SJG, you are even degrading the religion inspired parties.

  • Saleh Johar

    Selam Solomon,
    God knows I am trying to friendly. But honestly, I don’t appreciate discussing old form comments that I do not remember. Also, I don’t appreciate addressing me when you are addressing Amanuel Hidrat. I can’t follow ten disconnected topics in one comment. I don’t understand the hip lingo that you use, hey, unlike you, I grew up in Eritrea and don’t execs me to be knowledgeable with that. Also, I remember I had briefly met you and had coffee but it was like tens of other events, don’t erect me to keep record of the fact that was in a specific cafe, and a week before I interviews Meles. For God’s sake, I don’t remember my kids’ birthday. And branching out of issues leads to misunderstanding and I don’t want you to misunderstand me or me doing the same. So, I stated general points illustrating our limitations so that you consider, and our goals so that you can help. Please don’t read too much between the lines because there is non. And slow down because cordial discussion should not be tit for tat. So, I say all of that with good intention, please take them as such. And you feel I wronged you, I apologize. Take it easy.

    • Solomon Haile

      SaliH,
      I am not saying you are at fault or responsible to remember the Bamya or Molekhia lunch you had on February 14th, 1975 in Tokhimbua. Your upbringing in Keren Eritrea, your Tegadalay days and your empirical knowledge has served you to serve and fight for the cause of justice harder than any Eritrean Veteran fighter that I know. Our first meeting was the first March for justice in Eritrea against GoEs or IA’s metamorphosis from Aba Gobie/a turtle to a Hair on 9/18/2001. Young Sophia T (“”demosophia” “)

    • Solomon Haile

      SaliH,
      You are editing your redponses while my responses are being delayed. Make it a fair dialogue. You did not wrong me. You were fighting for the cause to the best of your knowledge. tSAtSE

      • Solomon Haile

        SaliH,
        Now I feel danger. I may resort to posting on other websites for my personal safety. You are buying time. TSATSE

        • Solomon Haile

          SaliH,
          I tried to lead you to lead me with your own honest responses. So I narrated. And have more. Restore my voice and I shall check my ego for the greater good. Professor Newton Garver has taught me well…And the release of my response now is the only win win way out. You own the website (arguable) but the subject matter is the property iof all Eritreans. Release it now for the sake of the greater good. I am willing to sacrifice my self. Are you? TSATSe

          • Solomon Haile

            SaliH,
            I accept your apology. I understand you are much more valuable to the greater cause and as long as you know the truth and continue to provide me the privilege in your website I am confident that I will convince the the readers and contributers of the path or road towards peace and justice for Eritra and Ethiopia right here as an awstista. I will not resign not take my fight outside as it would serve your strategy of painting me as an outsider, if your apology is sincere and equipped are in possession of my narration then I have succeeded in opening your eyes and perspective of viewing tSAtSE with a different perspective. Homeless ness after reaching the acme of corporatexAmeriica is a lot smaller than the sacrifices Beteweded Abraha. And all the Eitresn Prisoners of Conciencd are sacrifing.,And even more insignificant than the 65. Thiousand Plus 20 Thousand more Eritrean fallen soldiers. Thank you again for the privilege and I will continue with the decent flow of discussions in the awate.con forum.
            Regards.

            Solomon

          • PTS

            tSatSe,
            You know you can edit original reply(add, subtract, change…) instead of replying in pieces. It is easier for us to follow.
            Yet better idea, you can do your responses in video format. You certainly are familiar with that.

          • Solomon Haile

            PTS,

            Yes I know or I should say I just realize “zeyQeniEa ayyeledd” by iSEm triggered it. Plus all my postings are from this dreaded hand set. I will be utilizing my lap top more…..,I plan too. Blame it on the Hijum MaHmud SaliH and company taught me. I intend too.
            To The East! tSAtSE

        • Berhe Y

          Selam Solomon,

          We all have our moments, but friendly advice (though I don’t consider one), please give it sometime when you write something for others to read it, and if you are lucky to consider responding.

          Writing and responding 10 comments an hour for 24 requires one has to constantly sit and write and worst you expect the moderators do the same.

          Here is my advise to you:

          1) respond one comment / thought out a day.
          2) if you have time write an article with supporting evidence if you can
          3) give people the benefit of the doubt. There is more to life than conspiring with nobody like me and you.

          Happy Sunday,
          Berhe

          • Solomon Haile

            Selam Berhe Y,
            I am amazed that even my response to you in the spirit of dialogue is deleted while I was at work. Reason is failing AT. Where there is no enmity it is being imagined. Volumes are is written and stored already. How do you think I stood alone against thuggery! Beteweded is my inspiration. “Forgive, unity, rule of law and sacrifice” I need that Latin phrase.,,heck…”WuHsTiyo tebelkuas some thing some thing ” ybla neiren aduetatna. Pardon the Latigtringa or “Tinglish” “say koti!” tSAtSE what was it that you feared this time? My chess metapaphor? In the movie “A Few Good Men” The General (Actor Jack Nickolson) to the Jag Lawyer “You want the truth? You can’t handle the truth!” Beluu:speaking of lawyersdo not push us to hit you where it hurts! Your pockets! (Skip Jende mother to daughter”gdefiyo neTselay …Abzi gorebuet tewared rekhibevalekhu..) woriduommm hgdef.. Budget budget sereQti bank.. Consult your corporate lawyer. “Ane Zdeli merHaba nssa Tdlii kermebba” I ain’t no lLegendary AlAmin AbdulLeTif for sure! And THIS IS AMERICA BABY! Law of The Land! Over a decade logged in premier Consulting American Cirporations. Please I beg you AT! Delete this one and restore my original response to Berhe Yemane. Hard decision? Ain’t it. Everything is backed up! What do you think DisQyus is. Should I dust the of my pavement dirt and pull out my suit? They did not call me tSAtSE for naught. You have been informed. tSAtSE

  • V.F.

    Solomon, just for the record, everything I propose, however crazy or nonsense it may sound is to benefit ALL Eritreans first and foremost., for a lasting solution. The weyane are doing just fine. They don’t need my help. I could only be a liability for them. In your other comment, you said, ‘we are all habesh, we are one.’ Don’t you think you even went much further than me. You are an extremist even by my standards.

    • Solomon Haile

      VF,
      The “we are all Habesh” is sarcasm. I am very well awate of my neighbors in the same four hut “kanshelo” surrounded by “”Denkebb” my Kunama family. As for my associating you with YG and the Weyane, I was trying my best to put it under quotes. I was quoting Nittic and I must admit..I was trying to fit it to my theory. If you say who you are I will pay attention. I believe I have a lot of “decent” political clout in this August forum to expend for the greater good. tSAtSE

  • dawit

    Dear Mahmud,
    I am surprised you endorsed any funding source as long as it helps to overthrow the Eritrean government. I think you must have forgotten your Eritrean history lesson from EPLF. It was Haile Selassie’s money that derailed the legitimate right of the Eritrean people for independence. That money caused an incalculable amount of Eritrean resources and human blood and lives to gain what was lost or sold in 1940-50s. The Eritrean right for independence that was sold for few dollars (Bir) paid to few select Eritrean individuals like Abune Markos, Tedla Bayru, Tedla Oqbit, Qeshi Demetros and Biteded Asfaha, who were like the Andebrhans and Salehs who facilitated the transaction of 1940s and 1950s that took us 30 years of armed struggle to claim what was sold. I am glad that Eritrea under PIA leadership threw out the shady NGOs who throw money left and right to destabilize developing country.

  • Abrehet Yosief

    Dear Brother Saleh,

    I will latch on to your hope that the Nairobi meeting will lead to better cooperation among opposition forces. In this desperate times, we need some glimmer of hope to believe that we will survive as a nation. As to Mr. Andeberhan, he has consistently behaved this way from his time with ENASA, to the first day of his meeting with Asmara University Students in 1991, to his tour promoting his book. His failure to evolve through the years and the failure of those in his corner to see what a liability he is astonish me.

    • Saleh Johar

      Dear Abrehet,

      Just do that latch on it and never let it go. Hope and positive energy is what we can afford on the cheap. It is way better than negative energy and heartburn. Take care ear

      • Abraham Haile

        Mr SJ
        It is good to meet in Nairobi to discuss how to hand over the power to our Youngsters, otherwise, no one will trust the EX Leaders of Sowra to have ago again on us. what do you want them to do us this time, burn us alive?
        Ex leaders rest in peace, let the new generation shine to lead us to Victory.

        • Saleh Johar

          Selam Haile,
          How do you hand power you don’t even have? Even if you have power do you just hand it based on age criteria? No one owns the opposition camp and entry is not blocked. Anyone who wants to be handed power will wait for a long time. In a struggle like ours, every conscious person should identify his strength and do his part. But telling people to hand power, whatever that is, as if it is a trophy Wong by the next guy, is not wise or rational. Work and create the power thT you seek and let others do what they are doing. They need your help and you want them to stop struggling. Think about it Haile, it doesn’t work like that.

        • Kokhob Selam

          Dear Mr. Abraham Haile,

          what power is there to handover. “the Ex leaders” were fighters when they were young and who ever alive among them is here still in his old edge. don’t you think asking simple quotations to yourself is worth answering like what the young are doing and ask to yourself – are we really working and fighting for our freedom?

          Look, all those elders including the wrong once have done their part and it is your turn now. there is nothing to handover to young except the experience, the wrong and the right, take lessons and hold your gun to fight for your freedom. don’t make excuses and come out of your comfort zone to do the job – be like those few practical young guys on the field right now. ቆሙሽሽጢ ኣደይ ዓንቂፉኒ ግደፍዎ ::

  • Abraham Hanibal

    Dear Saleh G. Johar,

    First I would like to congratulate you and the rest of the organizers within Medrekh on your recent Nairobi conference. It is encouraging to witness Eritrean political groups and individuals of various ideas and persuasions come together for the sake of narrowing the gaps, and seek to increase the momentum of the struggle against dictatorship through common endeavors. It is also commendable that despite what happened to you personally, you supported and endorsed the initiative and the outcome as well as pledging your continued contribution to the common greater cause.

    Having said this I would like to ask you the following for clarification:

    As you’ve described it you were part of the process of organizing and coordinating the conference from the beginning. This means that Amb. Andebrehan, being an active participant in Medrekh, must have known about your participation from the start. If Amb. Andebrehan has “grudges” and “vengeance” against you, then why was your participation even during the preparation period not raised and eventually resolved within the Medrekh organizers? In addition to this we know the meeting took place from 27 November to 29 November, 2015, while the reaction from Amb. Andebrehan towards your participation came in the morning of the last day of the conference. Were you present during the whole three day period of the meeting? If yes, then how could Amb. Andebrehan’s desire to “politically liquidate” you not occur in the first day of the conference; why did he agree with his colleagues to let you participate for two days of the conference, if you were indeed present in the meeting during those first two days? I guess something must have happened before his decision to resist your participation; something that has not seen the day of light as of yet.

    At any rate I agree with those who are suggesting not to rush to judgement before getting the story of the other side, preferably backed by other neutral or independent witnesses to the episode.

    Kind Regards

  • Saleh Johar

    Solomon,
    I didn’t know you played zaagol, but one seashell is missing and that is causing your shells to show a huge margin of error, in fact way outside the margin, But I appreciate your good wishes and though I didn’t understand most of your comments–I am just assuming you wish lots of funds to come my way. Someone told me political commentary, and predictions are unlike rap music. 🙂

    • Solomon Haile

      Selamat SaliH,

      Well said! Deniability. I threw that out rather hastely. But years ago…it is unfortunate there are no archives… No matter we are all growing and are maleable enough to gain from it. Your denial is a political one in how influence the HaFash. That is why the OLD ELF and EPLF guard excluded the young. Playing King Maker of the return of Axumite Empire…. Now that the heir to thrown Isayas Afewirki is practically one leg in the grave….The Technichrats and the King Makers. I am Hustler two SaliH…
      Let’s do the wuTsuE Hzbi, Hafash tune for a little while… I just hope you studied and analyzed the vocal awatistas writings before you destroyed them… Please tell Fareed that I am nearly fifty years old And for him to ..,

      But I have received no funds from Ethiopia or you.. So I am just going to stick to the truth as I see it. No malicei intent here. I am just saying the truth others will say to one another behind close doors. I have been following your latest diversity advocacy. We are a lot alike…believe me. But I will check my ego for the greater good as well as you are an older brother and good at heart. tSAtSE

      • Saleh Johar

        Dear Solomon,

        I understand that a few years ago you were banned and you were obviously aggravated by that and you search for an opportunity to bring it back again. Now you are mentioning years old nicks from the forum. Do you expect me to keep record of what irritated you or other forumers? Honestly, I do not keep track or such issues. I moderate the forum with other people and I do not have the time to revist that every now and then. Please understand we are trying to provide a decent discussion forum here, not a court of law. Besides, what we offer is a privilege not a right and it would help if you realized that. Finally, myself and my colleagues will do anything to prevent any disruption of the flow of discussion and we apologize we are not willing to attend to insignificant wounds (relative to the major national issues) we hope to see you cooperate and help us out in this endeavor.

        Thank you

        • Solomon Haile

          SaLiH,

          I take offense to you pulling what you think is heavy artillery. Where is it that I am hindering a decent discussion? I will not be bated into a war. I do however intend to correct your leadership for your growth with decency. Yappi attitude makes it not decent. tSAtSE.

      • Solomon Haile

        SaliH,

        I would like Ata Amanuel Hidrat to return and defend his Weyane backed strategy of the Federal Republic.
        I mean we can all GO academic and say WHY NOT start talking of Unification. I mean Weyane’s formula could work for Eritrea partlitioned and sending two sets of locally elected Eritrean Representatives to the Ethiopian Parluament. I am willing to consider it with sincerity. I am American! But, perhaps I am willing to give up the two state Solution in East Africa BUT STAY MY GROUND ON A TWO STATE SOLUTION FOR ISRAEL AND PALESTINE. I wish the PLO Sewra was the one that succeeded in liberating its Palestine rather than the EPLF. I mean Eritreans And Ethiopians are Habash..We are one. But the Israelis and Palestinians are …oh wait..they are brothers two! They are just Different in this way: Muslims and Jews.

        Aya Kokhob Selam Alekha doU? tSAtSE

        • PTS

          Selie,
          Kokhob returned, as did V.F. Amanuel is on his way too. also, pls don’t misrepresent Aman’s position. He wants peace with Ethiopia, as every sane person should, but he never advocated for unification. Him and SJ are “weed out” czars.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear PTS,
            I only came and will come when to give my understanding if necessary.Seldom I will reply on comments, since there is nothing to learn on those emotional suggestions.

          • Solomon Haile

            Al Selam wubAleikum wa RaHmatuAlah Kojhob Selam,

            Muster up real courage and have a dialogue. You sir are not immune deficiency to emotions. “Ms adgi zkhede TraT lemede!” Now is not the time for retreat? Must we do this again? Were you on the battle of Barentu of 1978? The Red Flowers And Dawn’s Stars were on the Sane stage or better yet Medrekh! Anticipating Smerrrrrrrrretttt! General IbraHim Ada insists on Tegadalay Amanuel Hudrat to sSTAY PUT ANdD HOLD THAT BRIGE! No retreat no surrender! It would you rather Awet n HafAsh! How is that for emotion! Offering a fifty year old man candy playing on his emotion? Hold your ground soldier. Ayya Amanyuel Hidtat you too! Final push and I will be on my way same as the ELF Saho Tegadalay they made Tegadalay ShumbHri’s life miserable as his commander at first..,what a beautiful lesson Of a story Gonnnnnne “mysteriously”!no archives! I will remind you of how that true story ended when you stay your ground and dualogue! tSAtSE

          • Kokhob Selam

            Yes Sir, ፍኹስ ክብለካ ዶ ክምልሰልካ ?

            ኣብ ፖሎቲካ ዘጋጥሙ ቅልውላዋት ብብዙሕ ዓይነታት እዮም እዮም ዝግለጹ ::ብደረጃ ሕስብን ውልቀሰብን ዝረኣዮ ኢልካ ውን ምምቃል ይከ ኣል እዩ :: ቅልውላዋት ፖሎቲካ ከም ጎኒ ሳዕቤን ኮይኖም ዝቀርብሉ እዋናት ውን ኣሎ :: ካብ ኣካላዊ ሕማም ንላዕሊ ኸኣ እዮም ዘሳቅዩ:: ንኣብነት ዓበቕ ዝበሃል ተመሓላላፊ ሕማም ብዘይ ‘ቲ ኣብ ኣብ ልዕሊ ኣካልካ ዝልከ ዓይነት ፈሳሲ ብኣፍ ዝውሰድ ተቃሚሙ ዝተዳለወ ኣፋውስ ‘ውን ይወሃበካ እዩ – ውሽጣውን ግዳማውን ክንክን ከኣ ስብነትካ ነቲ ሕማም ስዒሩ ይፍውሰካ :: እንተፖሎቲካዊ ሕመም ውጽኢት ጉጉይ ኣተሓሳስባ ብምዃኑ ዝበዝሕ ግዜ ምፍዋሱ ኣሸጋሪ እዩ ::

            እዚ ሒዝካ ዘሎ ፖሎቲካዊ ዓበቕ ኣዝዩ ሕኸኸኒ ሓሓኻኽነኒ እናበለ ብሳሓ ልብኻ ኣጥፊኢልካ ከምዘሎ ንዕዘብ ኣለና ::ኣጣል ዓበቅ ክሕዘን እንከሎ ኣብ ዝረኸበኦ ገረብ ሕኽኽ ኣቢለን ኣይጸግባን እየን – ልክዕ ከምዚ ሕጂ ንስኻ ምስትን ምስትን ትተሓኸኽ ዘለኻ ማለት እዩ :: መንእሰይ እንተኾይንካ ክትሓዊ ብዙሕ ተኽእሎ ኣሎ :: ሸማግለ እንተኾይንካ ግን ፖሎቲካዊ ሞት ከጋጥመካ እዩ::so in advance መንግስተ ሰማያት የዋርስካ ::

          • Solomon Haile

            Selam PTS,

            Aya Amanuel is my family. He shall return and answered my challenge. His Federal Republic academic lectures are suspiciously close to TPLF’s governing of Ethiopia. I challenged him with my why his NO in quotation in order to formulate my theories of the road to peace for Eritrea and Ethiopia. Mind you abscent of JUSTICE there will always be WAR. Of either the overt or covert. And WE Eritreans MUST FIRST DO ERITREAN HUSTIRY JUSTICE by severing the enemity with mutual respect with Ethiopia. Ethiopia must first respect Eritrea and Eritreans and Its signature to the binding peace treaty of the Bsdume war before it designs all these schemes of perpetual war. With mutual respect peace and milk and honey will flow between the two states up to where the borders will be meaningless. For the Hafash means diddle squat if the next gibalist entrepanuers are to benefit denying justice and dignity to the Eritrean People. Read semere Andom’s “clue less” about Najfa article. Where is Hope when you need him. Hope has a mighty pen that is restrained somewhat I am realizing. It is The Youngsters Medrek folks! I am retiring from being a rebel for change! I will retire the old guard with as I have already actuarial u calculated their pensions. Including Presudent I A’s pension and severance package. I told Fareed/KS of his hiding atop a Humet tree then he hid from me for ten years!
            Aya Amanuel please grace us and teach your nephew “Adeb!” tSAtSE

  • Mahmud Saleh

    Hello everyone
    Good Saturday
    “Old Habits die hard,” so goes the saying. It’s clear what Ambassador Andebrehan did was not only wrong but irresponsible. Consider this:
    Saleh put aside his previous suspicions and reservations for a cause. I believe something made him see beyond Andebrehan and other ex-PFDJ leadership’s members; we know how allergic he is to that breed. But he must have trusted the other members who were set to coordinate the conference, otherwise he would not participate. Saleh enters the initial consultation process and find it to be worth of giving it a shot. He did his best in making it a success. Mind you, he is now a member in the process, not a guest. Even if he were a guest, well, an invitation was sent to him, and his travel was covered by MedreK. Even if Andebrehan was holding a riling grudge against Saleh, and even if he was not aware of Saleh’s relationship with the coordinating committee, and of his contribution, given Saleh’s status and his relation with the leaders Medrek invited, I think any rational person would restrain his/her self from getting spellbound by the restless ego. Success has a price. Sometimes, putting aside ego, and persona prestigeis the smallest price one can pay for a the success of a cause.I’m sure it was an embarrassing moment for the people who invited Saleh, but I commend Saleh for putting the cause above his personal injury. I understand it was not an easy one, But Saleh took the right decision. What’s even more important is this: Saleh has vowed to continue to work in making future venues become successful; he renewed his relation with the other members. He has won the moment by not becoming a cause of disintegration (even if it was not his fault). He decided to pay a price for a cause. I think we need to pay a price for a cause too. The price we pay is going to be very small compared to the embarrassing experience the coordinating committeeand Saleh had paid. Let’s restrain ourselves from prejudging the outcome. Let’s give it time. As far as Andebrehan is considered, old habits die hard. It’s up to Medrek to review it. I think the cause is greater than any individual. Regarding the fund, let’s be honest. Grant writing is an expertise in its own. Almost all NGOs do that. We better focus on the mechanisms and their result rather than who funded them.

    • Solomon Haile

      Seminat NaHmuday,

      I don’t think it is only about old habits only, though old habits do die hard. I should know!

      tSAtSE

    • Solomon Haile

      SelaMat MaHmud,

      Consider this: SaliH Ghadi did attend and said veto by Andebrehan and the conflict DID NOT Occur. I am. Something is fishy…,tSAtSE

  • Berhe Y

    Selam Tesfu,

    I don’t have a proof and I will take your suggestion. It would be nice if someone can investigate and proof the roomer. What I hear was what was said when they removed them “menkae an meda atifienayom ente belna abzi endyom teakibom tseniHomna”.

    I bring this up not to start war against the other region but to show the character of the person and the damage he has done and continues to do. If people think UoA was closed in 2005, they better think again he did that in 1994.

    I know one particular story what he did to one individual, for no reason but for spite.

  • Tafla

    Zereba Kilte keysemaEka aytfred yiblu seb qedem.

  • T..T.

    Hi SGJ and all,

    In some misunderstandings or conflicts due to political difference, parties involved may try to dismiss their conflicts to other reasons. However, if the conflict is based on political affiliation, the conflict is strengthened by a warning stating “if you step on my meeting halls, I will make a 911 call.” The response may sometime be to the tune of “come get me, this is not your property.” That would be said even if it displeases friends.

    With some shred of dictatorship borrowed from Isayas, the host may have used his gang members to force an attendee to leave the conference hall. But even if in the absence of gang members, the host may have made a noose out of thread in order to end the cycle of disappointment. The thread as a thread is not a threat. And, the host’s disappointment as toxic to the meet as it was, he should have proceeded his non-welcoming of the guest in a different direction like the Isayasists do. Just create a commotion and accuse the unwelcomed attendee for distracting the meeting by creating a commotion. The unwelcomed attendee may then be forced to leave the conference hall.

    Just two sentences would link top and bottom paragraphs: History is cruel. And, bad habits are hard to break.

    To many opposition members Medrekh and EPDP are scary window-peeper triggering a question: are they with us or against us? Therefore, the problem is in those who are not considered by many opposition members as part of them. Those two, Medrekh and EPDP, should first define clearly their position. The undefined stand is raising a lot of questions. Yet, they are seen wanting to play dominant roles in the opposition.

    Many opposition members catch members of these two groups reflecting or describing the Eritrean opposition the way Isayas describes them. Very difficult to tell who is who? BTW, can anyone clearly associate HOPE or selam to Isayas or any of these two groups? HOPE and selam are worse anti-opposition and yet they claim to be members of Medrekh or EPDP.

    Indeed, these two groups’ criticism of the Eritrean opposition is not insightful or constructive. When the Eritrean opposition lost the Sudan to the dictator, the opposition had to find a place. The opposition lost its base or head-office completely. As the result, the opposition, as a whole, almost became homeless. Because these two didn’t want to completely divorce with Isayas, they chose not to go to Addis.

    To the greater opposition, moving to Ethiopia was the most momentous opportunity that presented itself to swiftly move out of the Sudan before Isayas’s took criminal action on them. By now, most of those who were in the Sudan might have been in the dungeons of Isayas. Thus, we can say, the greater opposition members who were in the Sudan were not dragged into trouble because some ex-Isayasists or those on mission creep of Isayas’s strategy so desired not to move to Ethiopia. Despite many damage caused, the opposition members are not involved in tit for tats. These innocent opposition members still have humble beliefs in coming together to preserve people’s aspirations and the prime goal of the opposition, even though the other side kept rotating between reconciling and conspiring.

  • Berhe Y

    Dear Saleh,

    I am really sorry what happened to you in Nairobi. You really are much bigger, much nicer, much wiser and most importantly you hands are CLEAN. Most of those former PFDJ, their hands are dirty one way or the other and until they come out and admit their role in the oppression of the Eritrean people and appologize, nothing they say or do will do Eritrea any good.

    This particular person, Andebrehan I have heard horror story about him. When he come out and show his opposition with the ruling, I was skeptical that he will be positive to the change, as I have seen nothing remorseful to his past crimes in collaborating with the system. He has very questionable past in how he served the regime.

    1) When he was part of the NA student movement, after Isayas took action to liquidate the MenkaE, if I remember his stand was with the regime. As a result many member NA student movement who opposed the action taken by Isayas and group, ostracized, alienated and some even died in mysterious circumstances. Him and his likes, they never come out and cleaned their hands and their role.

    2) When he become president of AU, he single handedly caused the University to shut down for 2 years. He fires many professors/lecturers and teachers in the University, who served for years under the disguise of NOT qualified. But the truth is, he removed them because most of them didn’t aline to the party, and he didn’t like them because they happen to be from Akele Guzai. (I am not from Akele Guzai if you are wondering).

    3) Not only that, in a normal situation the board of the university (as an independent entity of free learning and higher institution) the university should be free from any direct interference of the government. He had absolute control on the university and he did what ever that he wised. The most ridiculous action he took was when he named the president as Chancellor of the University without consulting with the board. If you haven’t seen the dictator nature of this man, you have seen nothing yet.

    4) Same goes for Dr. Assefaw, I lost total respect for him when he come out in the VOA, after the formation of EDP (I think and said), If Isayas steps down then he is free from all things that went on. I said, who the hell does he think he is to say that..and never really gave much to what he did since then.

    5) the whole former EPLF / PFDJ lot have contributed anything but derail the opposition movement from the day they set to join them. And I don’t expect they will do any better in the coming years. WHY because they have too much baggage, they have blood under their hands that they must protect for ever. You never expect anything good to come out of these people.

    Listen Saleh please know that you are bigger than them, your record is impeccable. If you think because most of these people are Christians or from Kebesa and they can bring the Kebesa people, you are thinking wrong. These PFDJ/ EPLF, hurt the kebessa people like NO other. Actually I have made up my mind long time ago, I would take, Kemal, Jemal, Alamin, Saleh, as long as he has absolutely nothing to do with the PFDJ/ EPLF any time, any day as my leader. The point I am trying to make is, you should never compromise with these type of people, show are your leadership and we WILL be behind you.

    Back to the funds and the money…you and Saay, can out smart, our last and out do them in the funds department, if you really let your ego down and do the right research in how you can get the funds you need to LEAD the people in the direction that you wanted.

    As long as this cancer, PFDJ/ EPLF is in our country, their blood and in their system, nothing will be cure. We need to cleanse our system from this cancer, if NOT Mesfin Hagos it’s Andebrehan, if not Andebrehan it will be Dr. Assefaw, if it’s not Dr. Assefaw it will Shengeb, if not Shengeb it will be Ali Abdu.

    I am convinced that, if you notice, non of these former PFDJ / EPLF insiders talk about the SECRET party and their role inside the SECRET party. It’s like a MAFIA, no body ever leaves this party…until all this insiders, spill out the secret of these party and clean and absolve themselves, we will never to trust them. Sometimes, I wonder if they have to commit a crime to be accepted, just like the Mafia.

    If he has difference, let him face you and show you that you were wrong about him…that’s what leadership suppose to be…can’t he learn a thing or two after all these years..

    Berhe

  • Semere Andom

    To those who are shocked by the actions of Andebrhan:
    History is repeating the past to the letter: Some one who wields more power gets away with a crime and the agenda was an Eritrea issue, so the invited Saleh was a delegate. Andebrhan gets away with his bullying and his colleagues go and beg him, he is adamant and gets away with it. It is all about the power the bullying factor
    Where did you hear that before? It was when IA decided that Romodan not be in the ballot,his colleagues beg him but like they did in this case they capitulated to his thusggish behavior.
    I have a mixed felling about Saleh decision, the organization is doomed may as well save our time and put it out of its misery sooner

    • tes

      Dear Semere Andom,

      I was contemplating in the same way you did. It is like begging the big boss again. DIA benefited from this kind of behaviour and he succeeded to meld his thinking freely. Once these dictators are begged and someone showed a positive tendency, then what they say in the meeting is approved without questioning since he was treated as one who compromised a bigger issue.

      Anyway, Ambassader Andebrhan has to be rejected if Medrek is going to exist or at least he has to apologize publicly. So far Eritrean people owe him an apology and now he again did another big mistake.

      tes

      • V.F.

        Tes and SA. You two are probably bright academically but there is a bit of a naivety in your political analysis. Don’t be fooled by anyone. SGJ was the first one to declare war on medrek by calling it ‘another winter project’ only less than a year ago. Here again, he is quickly succeeding in assassinating Andeberhan politically. That’s the goal. Nothing sacred about. Cheerleading and being someone’s bandwagon at this point is not wise. Gather more information. You only heard one side of the story. Oh BTW Tes, rewrite your last sentence.

        • Semere Andom

          Hi V.F:
          Enlish usage, “owe”, you caught it too:-))
          But on the issue of one side, you are correct, but in this case it is about track record , Andebrhan acted logically in keeping with his behavior and there is nothing wrong for calling his group a winter project, if that infuriated the PFDJ former lackey so be it.
          Any organization or individual claiming to working on our behalf must be harshly, harshly and brutally vetted and criticized, I am sure you agree with me on that and your misgiving about SGJ must not interfere with that notion that I am sure you are fighting for it

        • tes

          Dear V. F,

          I am not criticizing Medrek based on this incidence. It is my stand since their birth as I believe they are an extension of PFDJ. And now what Ambassador did is because of that behaviour.

          tes

          +Thank you for the sentence. I didn’t pay attention while writing.

          • V.F.

            Ted and Semere. Point well taken, both of your points.

        • Saleh Johar

          V.F.
          I wish you knew the difference between “declaring war” and writing an opinion on current events. Stating facts (though my side) doesn’t amount to assassination, consider political suicide and you might change your mind though I realize you have already declared it a murder case. In that case, whether you hear it from one side or a million sides will have little effect on your verdict . BTW, you can’t pass a verdict and then claim to be interested in hearing the other side. Can you? 🙂

          • V.F.

            Dear SGJ, let me be positive here for a second. In physics/chemistry, there is this concept of excited states, ground states and associated loss or gain of energy (it is conserved). So, for example, if you shine a UV light on a molecule, you get the atoms excited (higher energy state) and that is an unstable state so they must release that energy and come back to ground state and they are stable there. Okay, my point is, time and again, you bring a lot of us from an excited (high energy state) to ground state (stable) without you losing or gaining energy in the process. I commend you for that. I was a bit harsh but you kept it very civil and that is a gift which most of us lack.

            Now, I was a little bit frustrated because I, ‘somehow’ felt like an otherwise splendid article was somewhat spoiled by the postscript. It was quite uplifting and the postscript got me super excited. Should you not voice your opinion about an individual? Sure you should. I am not very fond of Andeberhan Weldegergis (AW) either. It goes way back to the UoA days for me in 1993. It is never too late to abandon tyranny and be on the right side. He should be commended for that. Without going on and on, I just wish you left the post script. I would hate to judge someone of his caliber but such an unfortunate incident. I don’t think that reflects on what kind of a leader he would be. Like Tes and Semere said, it goes way back. Let history judge him. You made a positive contribution, he made himself look like a fool in front of his peers, and I think that should be enough for him. Plus it is more like a family feud. Let Medrek and his leaders be judged on their merit. As you said, they seem to have come a long way and I would like to see that progress continue. They are a little bit of a closed and old men breakfast club kind of group for my taste but they have some good individuals and I like to see what they can do. But again REFORM is improving on something. What can we improve in Eritrea except start from the ground?

          • Semere Andom

            VF:
            I am confused, if you do not like AW based on your knowledge of him then, the writer and activists that Saleh is I think the post script was not uncalled for.
            Here is the issue: personalities like AW litter even the business world in USA, good examples are Steve Jobs and Larry Elison, both are brutal the later is called the SOB of the American success story, He and the founder of Sybel had a big argument and Ellison pinned his colleague against the wall when both were at Orcale, then when Sybel became successful it was bought by Oracle. Jobs has bullied employees in meetings, but the difference is because there are laws and labor rules in a mature democracy, the vicitims will not lose their investments, benefits and the damage is minimal. If the personalities like AW take power then there is not change it will be personal and it will be new version of IA. So yes AW should be judged by this incident and others before it.

            Now consider how JFK handled the insult by Curtis LeMay during the Cuban crisis, that is a kind of leader you need in the crisis leaden country like Eritrea. Imagine you V,F proposing your ideas to AW in a cabinet meeting, he will shoot you and probably his colleagues like Shengeb will beg him,and then they will let him do it. I think they should have stood their ground in this case too, refusing to let him veto them even at the expense of making the meeting a failure. What Saleh and other did was the proverbial line of let the mouse pass for the sake of the mogogo. Demoracy, tolerance were the causalities, I would have prefered the meeting be the causalities

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Ahlan Semere

            Please criticize the conference on other areas, if any.

            Since I read your mind here are two;
            1. Any meeting where “እዞም ርኹሳት ሻዕብያ ዘለዉዎ ዓንቃፊ እዩ። ደሓር ከኣ መድረኽ ዘይእቲ ካልእገጽ ህግድፍ እዮም። እቲ ዝገርመኒስ ከመይ ኢሉ እዩ ሳልሕ ናብዚ መጻወድያ ኣትዩ። ናይ ሳልሕስ ደሓን፡ ባዕለይ የራኽበሉ። ከመይ ኢሎም እዮም እቶም ካልኦት ውድባት ከ ጠንጥኒኖምና ናብ መድረኽ!!!
            2. ንሕና ኣብ (xxxxxx) እንዳተጸበናዮምስ ጥንጥን ቢሎምናስ ናብ ናይሮቢ! ወይ ኣነ ሰመረ። ክላ…ክላ…ግደፎ’ባ”
            (ንደኣል ሃሌና መለሀይ)
            I think it would be irresponsible of them to squander that opportunity because of the irresponsible behavior of Andebrehan. The coordinating committee did the right thing, Saleh did the right thing. At the end if there is a person that has lost credibility, it is the Ambassador. The cause, or the process is more important than the man. Saleh showed magnanimity; here is his impression about the conference even after that testy incident.

            “Forgetting the small hiccup, the Nairobi meeting was excellent and opened the way for further cooperation among the opposition forces—I wish the public will subdue its perceptions, egos, negativity and skepticism, and for a change, rally behind such an objective. I will do just that and I hope I will not have to write anything bad about it—provided it is blessed with honesty, humility, be goal oriented and not a show-off and arrogance. Moving ahead, there are programs that need to be executed and we have to do our parts.”
            So, I would give the time, and the space for the people who made it a success; and for the organizations which broke traditional redlines. Success/victory has a price. And that price sometimes comes in the form of “ምእንቲ መጎጎ ትሕለፍ እንጭዋ” OR ” Spare the mouse lest not break the clay oven (trying to hit the mouse)”- giving the cause priority. They are just starting. It doesn’t mean the people inside MedreK have not felt that. I’m sure they will work to rectify it. It is absolutely important that persons, no matter how well connected or skilled are, stay kept within approved rules. You should not represent the process by that incident and by Andebrehan. Saleh’s renewed commitment and initial reports attesting to the satisfaction of the participants indicate that it was a success.

          • tes

            Dear Mahmud Saleh,

            I think Saleh Johar did not renew his views. he went there as per his guiding principle: to reconcile with all good hearted people. He mentioned for example Adhanom (EDP) several times and I read him saying a friend. Saleh did not have any personal grudge as far anyone stands for justice. Saleh is always against those who are against Justice.

            I read from Saleh Johar a line that says: “Democracy without justice is meaningless” [emphasis mine]. This is where Saleh Johar stands. If there is justice Saleh Johar will be there.

            I believe that even if DIA welcomed him for interview he will not hesitate to do it. he will because he has questions regarding justice. That was his motive to interview the late Melles Zenawi.

            Saleh Johar, from what I read him so far is very allergic to injustice loving individuals or groups.

            Therefore, in my understanding Saleh has no any renewed approach rather he is carrying the slogan of this website: Inform, Inspire, Embolden and Reconcile. As I can see Ambassador Andebrhan is not ok with “Inform, Inspire and Embolden” though he seems fine with reconciliation. I said this because he is so secretive and not a single information he doesn’t like should be told and no one should be inspired but adhere to a pre-set objectives. More than that the good ambassador didn’t like the word embolden at all. He wants dull and dump people to be recruited in his company.

            I said the good ambassadress is fine with reconciliation simply because he wants it to escape the accusation set against him as a guilty person.

            Finally do not try to misinform readers as if Saleh Johar renewed his stand.

            tes

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Selam Tes
            Fortunately, the majority of readers read what’s written, what’s Objectively present, not just what they read in their mind.

          • tes

            Dear Mahmud Saleh,

            I have a proof when I say it. If one is recruited in politics there is no other word to describe than being a dump. In Politics, principles matter. What Medrek did is just like forming a company by investing money and recruit people while the idea is owned by the CEO of the company. It is known from the very beginning who is the CEO and how he extended his stuff members. Do not therefore be surprised.

            tes

          • PTS

            Tes,
            You said, “If one is recruited in politics there is no other word to describe than being a dump.”
            There is nothing wrong about political recruitment. You should judge by goals or results. Recruitment in itself is not bad. There is all kinds of recruitments like politics, sport, engineering, art, religion….

          • tes

            Dear PTS,

            Yes you are right when you say it should be judged by its goals or results. And why I say as I said is because of its goals or results. Ambassador Andebrhan gave us a good view of what Medrek is. Beyond that there is no any hidden goal or results.

            tes

      • Semere Andom

        Hi Tes:
        Nice to hear from you.
        You see I get a lot of heat for being harsh the individuals and I tried my best, but he is much much worse than this, A chil hood friend of his, who is a lawyer in Holland by the name Tesfazion, not Tesfazion Medhanie, narrated horror stories when they met.He compared him with an other friend from the Dergie and it was day and night
        Andebrhan is the epitome of the the intricate tapestry that kept PFDJ woven together for long to wreck havoc

        All the opposition PFDJ linked or others are sucking the bone marrow of the Eritrean people some by their arrogance and criminal back ground and some by their outdated, uninspired , myopia steeped in village politics. Weep Eritrea, weep for your own death at the hands of your own children

        • Saleh Johar

          Semere,
          It is all your fault. All this happened because of you deeds. You finished all the bone marrow supply and now there is severe shortage of it–just as you planned it. Conspiracy my friend. Release all the bone marrow (or any marrow, even if there is muscle marrow) that you have hoarded and things will be fine again.

  • Abraham Hanibal

    Dear Ismail Ali,

    While you wait for Saleh Johar to reply to you, I would like to ask you and others who are so concerned about the funding sources of Medrekh. I do not know if such questions were arisen towards the finances of the opposition coalitions that are conducted and facilitated in Ethiopia. Why are such questions so important when it comes to Medrekh? In my view as long as Medrekh has a transparent internal system that guarantees accountability within the Forum, then such matters should not be a concern of public scrutiny. Besides, I would rather like to focus on the objectives of the Forum, whether they serve the interests of the wider Eritrean people; whether they could eventually lead towards the unity of purpose among the various groups, and whether any eventual funds are utilized on realizing such objectives.

  • Awet A Kidane

    Saleh -ጀብሃ ኣብ 1981 ታሪኩ ዘክተመ ህዝባዊ ግንባር 1991 ማህደሩ ዝዓጸወ ብዛዕባ ዓሚ ዝሞተት ምራኽ እንተተዛረብካ እንታይ ዋጋ ኣለዎ ህዝቢ ኤሪትራ ብዛዕባ ለብዘበን ክትዓቢ ትድለ ዘላ ምራክ ዝጽበ

    • Semere Andom

      Awet Kidane:

      ምስላን ካብ ሕማቅ ፡ ማይ ድማ ካብ ዓሚቅ ክብሃል ከሎ አይሰማዕካን ዲኻ?
      ግን ዘይምስል አብዲ ዘይኾምስዕ አድጊ ክይበልካኒ፣ ክተምብሃልካ፡
      እታ ዓሚ ዝተቀዝፈት ምራኽ ብሰንኪ ስንፍናኻ ብጥምየት፡ ወይ ድማ ብሰንኪ ጉስነት ዝብኢ እንተበልዓ፡ ካብ ስንፍናን ብሰንኪ ሰንፍ ጓሳን ምዃኑ ተገንዚብካ ነዛ ናይ ለብዘበን ምርኽ ምጉሳይ ስለ ዘድሊ እዩ፡ ብዛዕባ እታ ነፍሰሄር ምርኽ ምዝራብ ዘገድድ

  • tes

    Dear Saleh Johar,

    You have shown your wisdom. It is exemplary. Lots of things to learn. At the same time Ambassader Andebrhan is not free from his PFDJ mindset. He thinks that he is the boss. I met him in Bologna last year(July 2014). And what I learned from a 2 minutes conversation is his arrogant behavior. I put my comments at that time here in this forum when I reported about the Bologna demonstration.

    Now it is clear how the 1994 University of Asmara victimized professors became his direct sheep of sacrifice. he is guilty of his ignorance. thanks his academic achievement has camouflaged his totalitarian behavior.

    Well, as for your reconciliatory approach I commend you. But you could have think about the nature of Medrek cores. Lets remember that Medrek has a recruited members. Its members are not there based on principle but hired to accomplish an already set objectives. Ambassader Andebrhan could have used the old lines of fund generating experience to shift some of the budget which was channeled to EPLF and now PFDJ. Parallel to this what we should know is that EPLF/PFDJ dimplomatic approach is as if he is the guardian of the New World Order. This is at the surface. Anyone who holds these principle can have ample source of fund. It is not a great secret to know how these funds are sourced.

    On the participants: I am disappointed. No one is there from the young generation. Old EPLFites, x-PFDJites, ELFites and bla bla. Where are our young people. This has been my persistent call for our generation to take the lead. The old generation is nothing but a hostage that is dragging the struggle for justice. I wish there were members from EYSC, ESMNS d others. Ok, EYSC has not yet declared itself as a political movement. However ESMNS has been as a political movement and his members are playing a major role in organizing our generation no matter how narrow their approach is.

    As for you, teacher Saleh, keep on encouraging the outcomes of the Nairobi meetings. I will play my role to encourage the Nairobi participants to expand their outreach and include young generation to take a lead.

    It is mind boggling when you hear well reputed political parties do not have any trust on young generation. I was chatting with one old veteran (ELF) and I asked him why there are no young generation in the organization he belongs. At that time the party was conducting election and all the nominees were from the old freedom generation. he told me directly to my face, “we don’t trust you”. Well, who then trusts who? and why we just pretend to be. The party that I am talking has a youth branch and they conduct many meetings in the name of youth while they do not have trust.

    Hence I call on this time for those old veterans to stop being representatives of our struggle for justice. if not we will see such a dozen plus more than 50 years aged veterans conducting meetings after meetings with no positive impact on the young people.

    At last, I still stand tall against Medrek but encourage the participants of the Nairobi meetings. I do because it is a way to go.

    Again I salut you for your maturity to keep the meetings happen and I call you to talk on the positive side of the meetings. We have now a complete picture on what is driving us back. You rather took a right decision to push us forward. Keep that happen: not for the sake of the good friends only but for the entire Eritrean people. It is because of like Ambassader Andebrhan that we were losing the trucks. Now thanks one of one parasite has been detected. it is a a very good achievements.

    A call to Ambassader: he must clear himself from his PFDJ mindset. if he is willing, I will coach him to be a free person. Just tell him to visit Paris. I will deprogram him while enjoying a Red Wine* from Bordeaux**.

    tes

    *Red Wine is a drink of the soul which purifies the heart and hence the mind(haile TG’s strategy).
    **Bordeaux is a place where one can find high quality French wines.

  • PTS

    Hi SG,
    Ambassador Andebirhan’s action is a preview of how he would govern if he were to assume power. He would be no better than Isaias on press mistreatment. He is PIA II.
    Having said that, as organizers, they have the right to refuse entry. Of cource it would be unwise to create misunderstanding at the very gatheing that is promoting understanding among the various stake hokders.

    • Saleh Johar

      PTS,
      Though if you were an organizer of a meeting, and I was with you helping in the organizing, and then you send me a ticket and reserve a hotel room for me, and I travel 26 hours to get there, and one of your friends, just one, decides to prevent me from attending, risking the outcome, You see no problem in that? I am afraid that is andeberhan’s manners and I don’t think you are approving of it. Are you?

      • PTS

        SJ,
        No I don’t approve Ande’s actions. If you were helping organizing, it is Medrekh’s total communication failure for this to happen. Also, Ande is not just one person in Medrekh, he is their de facto leader.
        BTW, where there is gathering, there is Saleh Johar in one form or another. That is a great quality, it shows me you are deeply interested in investing on Eritrea’s political future. You are fulfilling your civic duty.

        • tes

          Dear PTS,

          You wrote, “it shows me you are deeply interested in investing on Eritrea’s political future.”

          This is a childish remark. It is just showing you? Can’t you think beyond?

          tes

          • Abraham Hanibal

            Dear Tes,
            Well, I cannot say I’ve a command of the English language beyond elementary one; but I see nothing of negative message in the quote you’ve dubbed a “childish remark”. In fact PTS is applauding SGJ’s contribution so far to the struggle against the dictatorship.

          • tes

            Dear Abraham Hanibal,

            It is not negative at all. I didn’t say like that. But I expected him to know the contribution of SGJ without doubt. SGJ is not only fulfilling his civic duty but as a veteran freedom fighter and now a leading freedom fighter in all aspects, his contribution is visible everywhere. It is below my expectation to describe SGJ as such though not negative.

            tes

          • Abraham Hanibal

            Dear Tes,

            So you are expecting PTS to write an article of praises of SGJ? I don’t know what more of positivity you are looking for from PTS beyond his description of SGJ’s contribution by saying: “BTW, where there is gathering, there is Saleh Johar in one form or another. That is a great quality, it shows me you are deeply interested in investing on Eritrea’s political future. You are fulfilling your civic duty.” And you don’t think these words of yours “this is a childish remark, can’t you think beyond” are negative enough, esp. when you compare them with what PTS had written?

          • tes

            Dear Abraham Hanibal,

            Yes if it were possible I wish I read not only an article but a book about SGJ contribution and praises. He is our Friedrich Hegel. But I here I am just pointing to one specific remark. If you find it negative, I didn’t thought it in that way and I excuse if it sends such message.

            tes

          • PTS

            Abraham,
            Thanks for the defense. You owe* me one (per tes’ usage of the word).
            * the word “owe” is difficult for us Eritreans. So tes has the right to misuse it.
            In the way we normally do direct tigrigna-english transilation, “I owe you” should have meant ‘yi’ewdeka’. And “you owe me” ‘ti’ewdeni’

          • Abraham Hanibal

            Hello PTS,
            Actually I owe you nothing,-) My reaction was not that you could not defend youself, but the unfair reply from Tes to your otherwise positively laden comment triggered my natural instinct to respond.

  • Saleh Johar

    Hi Kokhob

    Thank you for the comment.

    You see, my position is: I consider anyone in the PFDJ clique an opponent (sometimes an enemy) but the moment they align themselves in the opposition camp, they are my allies. I don’t appreciate people who idolize every PFDJ official when they are with the regime and begin to defame them the moment they abandon Isaias.

    I totally agree with you that people need to reform themselves before they try to reform others.

  • Saleh Johar

    Hi Ismail,

    1. Honestly, Medrekh has kept its funding sources very secret. I have suspicions and if one of my susicions are right, I fully understand why they would keep it secret. The short answer is: I am not sure.

    2. EU is spending money to ward off the refugee influx and I am not sure if Medrekh is a beneficiary. We are following some leads on where some EU and NGO money ended up but we are still looking at the surface. I can’t say much here.

    3. I think the ENCDC goals are similar to what Medrekh has declared as its goals. I am not sure about Andeberhan, but I feel the rest are open about such and idea and in fact support it. By the way, that is my interest in the meeting.,

  • Saleh Johar

    Ayneta,
    I understand your skepticism, I had one. However, people change, political views evolve and you have to see the members of Medrekh in that light. The worst thing that Andeberhan did was damage the image of Medrekh that his colleagues were improving. It’s a disservice to them. But honestly, I have nothing against them–they were all respectful, only he looked out of place.

  • Efrem Bayarea

    Hi Saleh – I read your article with great interest. I expected you to share yours since there was a comment on Facebook about some feud.
    Since a lot is written in the comments section here let me just ask a question.
    Given that you were invited and your travel expenses paid by medrek is it fair to assume the trigger for such behavior may have been something that happened in the meeting, unless of course you were being setup.
    In another note, part of getting together and discussing among various groups and individuals is to learn about each other’s true colors.

    • Saleh Johar

      Hi Efrem,
      I had no interaction with Andeberhan except I saw him 24 years for a brief period, and in Oakland last summer. Nothing happened in the meeting because I didn’t attend. Obviously he has a grudge against me which I do not understand…

  • aklilu zere

    Good day Awate nation. Thank you Saleh.

    That is why we trust you Saleh! that is why we believe in you! that is why we admire you. You are a good man fully endowed by God with courage, honesty, integrity, immense intelligence,insight, humility, talent and charisma. You are our Hope and beacon of light. You are our invaluable asset. Never bow down Saleh so us the people of Eritrea will walk with our heads up.

    • Saleh Johar

      Hi Aklilu,

      Thank you for the nice words dear, I hope I have a tiny fraction of what you wrote.

      Take care

      • Mesfin

        Good day SGJ!
        You have every thing what it takes. Keep it up! Medrek should remove Mr. Andebrhan. It should be done via secret ballot. This man is in Medrek for money. People that left the PFDJ group, like Mr. Kibrom and Mr. Andebrhan should be watched and they are not needed in the leadership of the opposition. They can contribute as advisors. Their advice should also be scrutinized. Those people need to come out clean. We, Eritreans need people who can speak the truth and practice the slogan of Unity in our Diversity.

        Victory to the masses!!!

        Mesfin.

  • AOsman

    Dear Kokhob,

    On the following clip Aregai Hagos conveys similar view to you… u will lol more
    https://www.facebook.com/kibreth/videos/989753794414733/

    In his second point he talks about Assab and he mentions that Ethiopian PM was complaining recently about an alleged deal with Saudi and UAE. Well even though he mentions that DIA is leaving us with future political landmines, he is also surprised why the PM is wining :)…..I missed this news.

    Regards
    AOsman

    • Kokhob Selam

      Dear Aosman,
      Ha ha ha! I enjoyed it. the man always opposes every one and everything..this is catalyst. Lol. that was nice one. The mass, people are nice.

  • Haile Zeru

    Hi SGJ,
    Great, clear concise report. Thank you very much. Said that I am disappointed you did not stand your ground, mi-inti mogog tihlef antcwa type of behavioural philosophy is useless. It did not serve our people (bigger cause) before, it will not serve it in the future. In the process of saving the bigger good you sacrificed your right. But actually, by sacrificing your individual right you also damaged the larger(bigger) cause. Remember a house is built with single bricks. If one of them is out of place it might take tumbling the whole edifice.
    Probably it was a quick decision but a bad one. If you stood firm You would also put in light the character of the other guys. Would they stood with you against the bully or would they stand with the bully (Andeberhan). You know how characters are strengthened. Rest assured Andeberhan behaviour is a learned behaviour that now that he got what he wants it will be reinforced. Just wait and watch he will do that again. The NGO that funded this meeting also would see that they are not helping the bigger (Eritrean cuase ) by funding this dictator in waiting.
    I could say a lot, but nLebam amitelu Kindya Keysihto.
    I am disappointed. Your decision of letting Andeberhan go away so lightly has damaged the larger cause.
    Rest assured we have another dictator in waiting.

    • Saleh Johar

      Hi Haile,
      I understand your disappointment. I would easily have handled it differently. But I assure you, the meeting would have ended in chaos, creating new conflicts and I didn’t want to be part of its failure–I decided to take it upon myself because as you indicated, it’s a learned behavior and it will be there but now that he has proved himself he cannot be reformed, no one will tolerate his bullish behavior, Honestly, I was surprised by his action–had I known he is still his old self, I might have taken and different approach from the beginning, but when I face the situation, I had to think and decide quick, and I think I took a decision to save the meeting.
      Thank you

  • dawit

    Dear Saleh,

    I also would like to congratulate you for the informative article on another gathering

    of Eritrean opposition groups jockeying for power to rule over Eritrean people after PIA.

    So Debreziet, Awassa in Ethiopia gatherings failed to rally the Eritrean people against PFDJ, so let us try Frankfurt
    and Nairobi? It is amazing, no matter what, there are few people who wake-up, dress-up and show-up for such gatherings. They all have a common dream that PIA is sick and was dead or will die soon! Now you reported that you were invited for the meeting, with free air ticket and hotel accommodation. Who paid for all the expenses? Do the oppositions started collecting 2% tax from Eritrean Diaspora to pay for all the expenses? Do you think Eritrean people have the right to know who is paying on their behalf for those workshops and conferences?

    Could you elaborate on the funding of the conferences, which fly the participants first class and accommodate them in five star hotels?

    Regards

    dawit

    • Saleh Johar

      Thanks dawit,
      Eritreans who are denied the right to be in their country will try any avenue to return home–like any other struggle, the road is bumpy and long but sooner or later the goal will be achieved and history will have to condemn the culprit (though some people have a skill to side with the winner at the last minute).

      I really do not know the sources and I wouldn’t be surprised if they kept it secret for security reasons. But I agree with you on transparency. However, don’t you think we should ask for transparency from the Eritrean regime that never published a financial statement since 1991 before we go after hotel and air ticket costs, which are less than peanuts in comparison?

      • dawit

        Saleh,
        You amaze me sometimes, I think no one is denied to return to his/her home. You don’t even need a visa if you have your Eritrean ID or you can get a entry visa by paying $50.00. The problem with most who don’t want to return are comfortable wherever they live others want to return as rulers and not a simple citizens. They dream to overthrow the Eritrean government before they step their foot in the country.
        You also said you don’t know the source of the fund that pays your free ticket and hotel accommodations and what else a podium? You would not care where the money came as long as you get your free lunch. What security are you talking about? At least we know where PFDJ gets its money, like any government they collect tax from the citizens inside the country, they also collect 2% voluntary tax from the Diaspora, they run business in the country, they sale minerals, and lately they sale gold and copper. We also know where they spend the money, build schools providing free education to all from kindergartens to university level, build roads, dams, irrigation systems etc. They buy bicycles for the young to participate in sport and most of all they spend a chunk of it in defense of the country.
        Everyone in opposition complains the lack of published national budget for the country. If the opposition claim security for not disclosing the source of their finance and how they spent it, why can’t same reason applies for the Eritrean government? At least we know the source and where they spend it. What good is a budget if you run with deficit every year and running 19 trillion in debt and still climbing?

        • Semere Andom

          Hi dawit:
          I am going to break the forum rules so I can be banned. t that will protect me from you murdering my brain cells as you do my people.
          This is a lie, every word is a lie and you are an accomplished lair . Do not pass that your kids

          • dawit

            Wow! Cousin SEM,
            I didn’t know you have live brain cells left in your body since you left Sudan. Please don’t worry about breaking forum rules. here at ATland you have a special pass to insult any one you disagree with. Every word I write is the Truth and only the Truth and that is why it is so biter for people like you.

        • Saleh Johar

          Dawit,
          It is amazing that I amaze you. But let me give it a shot….
          I almost sure you were schooled under the HAILE SELLASSIE regime but people were fighting the because they were unjust though I am not sure if the concept of justice or the word exists in the PFDJ vocabulary. You say no one is preventing me from going back home but only the fact that I am having it good outside my country. The problem is that you and your types measure others based on your disposition. If you have it good it doesn’t mean others prefer your type of “good”. Your diregard for international standards is amazing. A government that deals with others is supposed to have published budgets, but then, don’t we know your contempt and disrespect for normal governing? One more thing, you said lunch, if you are so cheap don’t assume others are as cheap or petty as you are. Finally, what is the difference between the ranch of a slave owner and a country of free citizens? It seems they mean the same thing to you, not to the sane and patriotic section of Eritrea, and of humanity. I think you need to consult your bible for the meaning of Justice, human references are not good for you, you need a serious divine guidance.

  • Kokhob Selam

    Dear Awate team,
    I wrote my view on this article but it is not appearing, no problem since things are clear already-

  • Yohannes

    Hi Saleh,

    As hard as I try to keep my optimism on such initiatives, this one doesn’t pass the litmus test, the test being the cleanliness of this seminar. You know where it despicably fails?…just because the is a Mihyedin Shengeb! Just because it was possible for this guy to ‘just show up’ in such an important invitation. Just because he was one of the two representatives to broadcast this to public on VOA. I don’t even need to go to the other points; like the public relations and all. Like the exclusion of the young. Like the dominance of the veterans who didn’t pass their matriculation of running a country, but still stubbornly try to stay at the forefront despite the inferior resumes they carry. Like the inherent culture of pfdg which manifested itself in Andeberhan’s dealing with you(which I think you tried to understate for the sake of the bigger purpose and for the sake of civility).

  • Semere Andom

    Hi Saleh:
    Welcome back! I was wondering where you were hiding
    Nice read as usual, you were very critical but still deferential to the thuggish treatment. Andebrhan is known for his bullying demeanor to people he considers beneath him but he was the lap dog of IA so much that opening the doors for IA in public function. “Kab tsaba zeyterkbes kab mai tsab”
    Finally true to all higher echelons of PFDJ defected when he was cashiered by IA. But no defection is too late or too little, everyone has his own clock but the glaring fact remains that that is the pattern
    Reform, defined as removing the head and the body will wither away or will adapt, this incident shoots these notions, “gullnaha min bedri” (I told you so) 🙂

    So do you think Andebrhan will be tamed or wither away if he comes to power via reforming PFDJ. Reform in the context of PFDJ is an aphorism for sacking the leader blame everything on him and keep the PFDJ apparatus intact to continue to do what it does best, squander, bully and terrorize. This incident is an embryo of the problems that lurk if whoever comes to power does no cut the umbilical cord of this culture of terror, bullying, the very essence of PFDJ’ knack.
    Then there is Muhyedin Shengeb, who was tight lipped for the last 10 years, now has jumped to the Medrehk bandwagon and I take issues with him as a catalyst of change. Although he is not known for bullying and he does not have the military back ground he is implicated in the disappearance of many innocent student activist when he sat in the committee that spied on out spoken students, this dates back before independence.
    He told awate after he defected that he sees it in terms of the risk of his kids, who were in Eritrea at that time. He comes from a big family that extends from Ali-Gidri to Agordat and am sure that his family has made it safe with this chain family sprawl, but has said nothing for the last decade because he cannot do that we a straight face, His hands are bloody
    I do not trust him and now Andebrhan, reform or no reform Medrehk is bad news for Eritrea, not only for its PFDJ pedigree but for the unreformed felons who are the nucleus of this organization
    Shengeb, a drop out of one of Syria’s universities is a backroom boy and a turncoat. He mimicked IA’s gestures and vernaculars during the student movement epoch.
    Shengeb vowed to destroy HIV and those who spoke in tongues when the smarmy arrogance rubbed into him after imitating IA for a long time. But like those who spoke in tongues he find himself in exile and would have ended in Ella-Ero with tongue speakers had he not defected.
    Any job has occupational hazard and one of the hazards of public life is to be harshly criticized. And harshly criticize, especially those who speak on our behalf.
    Shengeb has not severed his ties with PFDJ in the spiritual realm so to speak. Maryam Mohammed (Wurrit), a former public administrator in Khartoum, a few years ago she was heading one of the youth meeting in Addis, she introduced herself by name and added that, “I am a former freedom fighter, one of those who is responsible for bringing this tragedy”. Succinct, point blank, cogent apology.
    Shengeb ??

    • Solomon Haile

      Selamat Semere,

      Personalities of the old guard on all sides is fair game I suppose and I see you would where your preference of mode of change arises from. I take it you have suffered taking orders from the PFDJ higher echelons prior to your crossing the border to Ethiopia. You and Tes for that matter are within your prerogative to hold such dislike sentiments towards the Tegadelty turned PFDJ leadership and government supervisory employers. … …. It is good to know the source for the remedy to reconciling the two groups, the young who came of age under EPLF/PFDJ command and the EPLF/PFDJ.
      You have your reasons/motives to see PFDJ blood and chaos for the true change you seek. You may succeed in seeing the blood and chaos but what of the CHANGE sought by the Eritrean people and Heros of the past and presen I whole heartedly believe you are either “clueless” or are not interested at all. There is hope.
      Enters the HONEST Eritrean Liberation Leader and current Dictator President Issayas Afeworki. It is here where I will pick it up… And though your pen is mighty, I believe you will be won over by the academics of the rational through the narrations I will direct to you and tes. Though, I have no knowledge who these reformers are I have a good idea and of their goal and vision for the benefit of the People all claim our fight is for, (the Ethiopian bridge is the final construct)

      A few month ago I too got the invite to the Medrek event in Oakland where SaliH Ghadi gave his speach of “diversity,” of course the invite extended to me was not as a guest panelist speaker. Just as a “check us out.” Come to our event invite. Now I have been studying these youth change seekers that are the true source of power and leadership of the change to come for some time. I studied their tenacity and mode of marching towards the change invissioned by their fathers, mothers, older brothers and sisters. The are your childhood friends and class mates. Sure Andebrehan is fair game as is Ghadi, But the fact of the matter is that now you are inadvedantly opening another front in a war against the young and brilliant change seekers by extension when knocking down the Ghadi of Medrek Andebrehan. These youth have also suffered under the same authoritarian PFDJ rule. Are going to continue to persistently pursue the iSEM way or the high way? Or is this simply in support of Ghadi who may have suffered a tiny bit of a political blow? My interest is in pursuing helping my way if change in this open Eritrean forum through civil debate? Yes I intend very much in helping the flow of the discussion BUT to benefit MY idea or proposal the road to change. The old guard leaders like Ghadi need to start loosening their grip of power or power of influence. Lest we start drawing the lines now on an early weakening of young opposition energy of all “opposition” by one another.
      Even Saay will have second thoughts on The Hobesty and leadership decisions of Isayas if he doesn’t have the doubts already. tSAtSE
      (Note: these thoughts/all my comments I will do some editing sooner than later. Not bound by any funding therefore time is a luxury.)

      • Semere Andom

        Dear Solomon:
        You are still doing the symetric crytography:-))
        But I tried to break it. Tes is a younger,not my generations, Ahmed Raj, am not sure
        I was not ordered by PFDJ because my independence was way before May 24:-)
        There are rules for struggle, I never advocate blood, but peaceful means is not possible with PFDJ, prove me wrong. Peaceful means is not an original notion even in Eritrea,it was tried before and every time its proponents get killed
        And answering fire with with fire doe not mean all out war. I tell you and we can talk after the dust settles but the Medrhk guys are damaged goods, they are an extension of PFDJ trying to patch things like they did with the shidda and like we did with our soccer pants, but it will not work for society

        • Solomon Haile

          Selamat Semere,
          I am merely using sonar or echo to explain your quest for blood of some of the PFDJ. Ahmed Raji I know for sure took orders from the PFDJ and he has a legitimate opposition of disparity against them. Tes, yes is younger and I can name the names of some of the Broots that made his work life hellish. I will extract your anger towards the upper echelon of the
          PFDJ leaning back to Aman Andom theory again. I do not claim to know everything but I can solve an equation even the convoluted integral that is Eritrea.
          I know you too know equations and or mathematical problems that are still unsolved. Am I correct?

          • Semere Andom

            Solomon:
            You reverted back. No Aman Adom connection, your best source is the other Aman:-)
            But yes, flirted with Fermant’s enigma and I followed it when it was proved by one guy from NJ in fron of my eyes, his life time fascination .
            I marved at the God numbers, Pi and -e:-)
            But now I have to deal with the Tsatse enigma but am not sure if someone will ever prove it:-)

          • Solomon Haile

            iSEM,
            See my response to this response of yours above.
            tSAtSE

          • Solomon Haile

            iSEM,

            The other Aman is my uncle, I am sure SaliH Ghadi was in Kuaut with SarTSai and other Eritreans challenged him on when he gathered them representing Ethiopia. I love my uncle late uncle Amaniel Andemicael. I first saw him in the Eritrean Highlands in the mid 70s where we gathered for my grandmother’s “Teskkar”
            SaliH Ghadii can tell you who lead the challenge in Kuwait against my uncle Amanuel, reminiscent of London’s Mesfun Hagios chair throwing…
            Aman Andom is an Eritrea. And Ethiopian hero! I believe he was trying or lead a dialogue for peace between ELF and EPLF in Weki Duba when the early c”wuguE HidHid” broke out. Perhaps the pen of Professir SaluH Ghadi can do Aman Andom justice for both Eritreans and Ethiopians to enjoy history. We may even find out you are his brother. I am a panFricsnist at heart…and I have desires for Erithopia …where I differ you shall find out. Justice is first and formost And the now Afluent Weyane is holding Eritreans hostage from achieving the lasting peace for all by not honoring the binding peace treaty. The Eritrean opposition can put their foot down and give the ultimatum….third
            Bridge…,

            Before I go: My uncle Amanuel has a beautiful family in Jersey and I did get to see him for the second and third time in the East Coast. tSAtSE

          • Solomon Haile

            iSEm,

            A British mathematician broke Hitlers code that was changed daily when transmitting orders tithe U Boats that was caysing havoc for the Alied Navy. It took years and was vital in winning the War for a just world. The team of British Mathematcians named the code; “Hitlers Enigma” My back ground is NOT pure math. It is Applied math-though I have had excellent conversations with a young Eritrean Bruin UCLA graduate with a degree in pure math.,e.g .The Barbers Paradox. The coded style of writing you can credit my ECE background. They were designed to with filters of specific frequencies for specific ears/eyes to hear. Signals, digital principals, and power I dabbled in. I have already calculated the defined benefit plan retirement benefit with SERP for management or the executives such as Ghadi and Isayas for example…I just want the post of EritreA’s Chief Actuary. No you have to build stronger bunkers like DefAE SaHil Dejena than words like enigma. Or you we can work together to break PFDJ’s Enigma Code which I will prove to you Reform is part of and the most efficient and fastest road for the relief of Eritrean People. MaHmud SaliH, Abraham Hanibal, Hope, and Saay will take lead. All Eritreans especially awatistas will have to abide by the rules of engagement of civil debate here. KS and Nitric especially will have to play the role of EDF and allow civilian rule and debate to rule. That means they can not resort to war of worlds. Ted, and dawit will have to bring their sharpest pencils as representatives of the PDDJ one slightly to the right or extremist of the other tes and other reps of the young leadership must wear their Reconciliatory gogels… The Ghadis and Amanuel Hudrats will have to play their part as keepers of the peace or chairs in this Eritrea.nonly Dislogue! Peace Bridge 1,that will lead us to the third bridge option…. Don’t worry I will do all the work and submit lay Third Bridgd Option as a parting gift beforexI position my self for the final push towards the certain victory with minimal cost. We are here on this stage/forum let’s call it Generation Medrekh thanks to the relentless fight of the Eritrean Opposition in the diaspora and in Ethiopia as well as the steadfastness of the silent majority plus pro government supporters whose calculus differed from that of the opposition but have gotten better…. Because of the existence of the opposition. Win Win is the REFORMERS way I shall prove and then take my position most likely with Medrekh. tSAtSE

        • Solomon Haile

          Severe,

          I added Ahmed Raji because despite his legitimate opposition and ques for justice against the PFDJ I doubt very highly if he is thirsty for “chaos and the blood of PFDJ.” Motive matters. His addition is for contrast. Sorry about my writing..MaHmud SaliH and company taught us Hijum style. I did notice YG’s “the Accountant” article in your opportunistic style of writing after collecting your data. I will tell you later…including the early Eritrean Public Forum jockeying for power…. It is history to be utilized in the fair game characterization of personalities much like your pick on Andebrehan.

  • Mahmud Saleh

    Dear Saleh
    Thank you for this informative installment. I’m sorry for the unfortunate surprise you were meted with. I hope MedreK will review it and take appropriate measures lest not to happen again to others. Having said that, I will focus on the positive side of it. It was rewarding to see an Eritrean group coming from EPLF and ELF honoring some veteran pioneers of our independence struggle. I think it was an historic one to see Hussien Khelifa, Mo/Burhan Blata, Mesfun Hagos and M/Noor get recognition. I’m also encouraged that you have become part of the process (revising your stand on MedreK, hoping that the Ambassador’s act will not overshadow the importance of the gathering. I send my thanks to Dr.Asefaw and my friend Semere Habtemariam.
    Dr.Asefaw: joined the struggle in mid 70s, in his prime time, he put aside personal gains. He was among few dedicated doctors who saved tens of thousands of wounded and sick. If each of us remembers hundreds of martyred faces, Dr.Asefaw certainly remembers thousands of wounded who died under the knife trying to save them.
    Semere: Cordial, intelligent, someone who is a bridge between cultures and languages, keep it up brother.
    Incidentally, I wrote a comment yesterday emphasizing the positive aspect of such efforts. I listed one point which is important. That was concerning the need of letting new blood run these efforts. The older generation can help behind the scene by infusing their wealth of experience and resources. I thought of this point because the mistrusts between participants become more pronounced the older they are due to the fact that they have been in the factional politics of ELF/EPLF… the new generation has less personal animosity thus they can focus on business.
    All in all, I’m more than encouraged. It’s a step to the right direction.

    • Jemal

      Dear Salih
      I am sorry to hear you have been vetoed by Andebirhan. While his action is deplorable there are certain things so called opposition organisations and individuls need to sort out first. I whole heartedly agree with Semere Andom comments above. Giving a platform especially a leadership position to people who jumped the ship when their own stake become at risk is an invitation to repeat the history. ELF made the same mistake with Issaias and Eritrean people are paying for Jebha’s foolishness till today. Therefore, any high ranking Pfdj defectors need to show their remorse and prove their worth before they are allowed to be leaders again. We should never forget they had a role in what is going in Eritrea today. To blame just Issais for all what is going on in Eritrea is naïveté to extreme. If these people do not aknowledge their role in the misery that our people is undergoing, do not expect any good to come out of these parasitic and power hungry brigade.
      Reading your story what amazes me more than his action is, How did he get such clout over everyone else? What makes him so special or powerful to dictate his terms? If anything this shows the meakness and utter uselessness of what is so called oppossition. For me this just proves they are no more than horse trading cow boys gathered with the sole aim of ascending to power at the ashes of PFDJ throne.

      • AOsman

        Dear Jemal,

        Nothing special, it is clear the clout comes from the financial strings, you don’t need to second guess who is the main man bringing the funding.

        Regards
        AOsman

        • Saleh Johar

          AOsman,

          It was not a clout, but blackmail. I yielded not because he had a clout but to save he meeting and I like to give the same benefit of doubt to his colleagues.

      • Saleh Johar

        Hi Jemal,
        Believe me it is not a clout, it is blackmail and we were tolerant for the sake of the meeting but you know, at least for me, he is an amateur in the integrity department, particularly in opposing something he was an integral part of. But in principle, any just struggle should welcome any one who jumps ship but should not allow then to bring PFDJ arrogance along.