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There Are No Shortcuts To Struggle for Freedom!

In times of great distress (social, economic, or political), nations sprout two types of people: the panicky and the resolute. The panicky as the name implies are those that lose hope, courage, or confidence when “the going gets tough” and whose hopelessness deepens as the struggle drags on. They lack vision, courage, and stick-to-itiveness. Every setback and any shortcomings is seen by them as an affirmation that the struggle is hopeless and useless.

The resolute on the other hand are the opposite. “When the going gets tough” they just “get going”. Every obstacle, every difficulty somehow increases their determination to strive harder. They may change their tactics or short-term strategy but never their grand aim: total liberation and freedom from tyranny. They have faith in the future and faith in their own people. They recognize that people and fortunes can change in myriads of ways and work hard to give it a positive push. Like South Africa’s Mandela, they believe “there is no easy walk to freedom anywhere” and that “many of us will have to pass through the valley of the shadow of death again and again before we reach the mountaintop of our desires.”

Who are the panicky? For the purpose of this article, I am using it broadly to include the wishy-washy, the philosopher wannabe’s, “the reform from within” gang, and all those who prey on the weak-minded or the naïve. Both PFDJ sycophants/apologists who try to sanitize PFDJ tyranny for all sorts of reasons and the Neo-Unionists who advocate a back to Ethiopia Band-Aid solution to Eritrea’s problems belong to this category (i). These are people who for one reason or another have concluded (by themselves or with the prodding of others) that a) the struggle against dictatorship has failed irremediably and b) that the opposition will never amount to anything.

The leaders (misleaders rather) of these defeatist movement (I can think of no other fitting epithet) who push such views relentlessly are a highly vocal handful. As to the led (misled), your guess is as good as mine. But whatever their exact number, a more relevant question to ask is how do they ever get away with such morbid notions? If we dig down to essentials, we will find that one word sums it all up: fear- mongering. “The opposition will be crashed or will self-destruct”; “popular revolt will plunge our country into a terrible chaos – look at the Middle East”; “our people will suffer if we continue the struggle”; “we will never win, we are doomed to fail”; and so on and so forth.

PFDJ sympathizers who decry democracy and preach tolerance of tyranny and the Ethiophiles who crave unity with Ethiopia have two things in common; both advocate an end to struggle for freedom and both exploit real issues to frighten Eritreans from continuing the struggle. Below, we will look at some of these exploited issues starting with the much aligned…

OPPOSITION: your problem; not mine

The curious thing about our attitude towards the opposition is that we all refer to it as if it is a single person – as something out there separate from us. We forget that we are all to blame for the problems particularly those who constantly derail it with all sorts of fanciful theories. Here is a critical difference in perspective between the panicky and the resolute. To the panicky, the opposition is not only fragmented and weak today but will always be so. Their whole outlook is constrained by what happened in the past or by what is happening now not by future possibilities. They not only never consider or envision a brighter future but consciously or unconsciously belittle every positive and encouraging aspects of the struggle.

They don’t consider for example the phenomenal growth of movements against GOE or the equally rising numbers of defections at the highest and lowest levels of government as a positive development. Nor do they consider the opposition’s trial and error struggles to coalesce into a united front as a healthy sign that will finally succeed. Nor do they consider the many other indicators of a gathering momentum in favor of the opposition such as the increasing isolation of the Eritrean government; the widespread disgruntlement in the army; the growing sophistication of the Diaspora activism; and the mounting spirit of defiance in and out of Eritrea. They instead like to wallow in far-out, unrealistic, vague notions as if to escape from the harsh reality of the struggle for freedom just as some might turn to alcohol to drown out sorrow. The resolute are more realistic and far-sighted. They also criticize the opposition for the failures in certain areas but unlike the panicky who do so with the intention of abandoning or diverting the struggle, they do it with the goal of reforming or galvanizing it. That is the critical difference.

For the opposition, pessimism is a much serious obstacle than its shortcomings and probably accounts for a lot in the latter. As Eisenhower once put it “optimism and pessimism are infectious”. If allowed to fester and spread, it will destroy the opposition and everything we hold dear. It is natural of course to feel a certain degree of pessimism and frustration particularly after a string of failures but it is also natural to shake it off and rise again as Maya Angelou so beautifully put it once:

You may write me down in history
With your bitter, twisted lies,
You may trod me in the very dirt
But still, like dust, I’ll rise.

Though all past attempts have so far failed, we must keep in mind that the opposition needs only one successful attempt to turn things around; a single successful operation is all that is needed to wipe out fear, galvanize the public, and to belie the fear mongers. It is also important to remember that all struggles for freedom that ultimately triumphed were once as weak and as disorganized as we are and at times felt (as we sometimes do) that the odds were too high for them to overcome. Our own struggle for independence is a case in point.

Some raise a big hue and cry over the opposition’s acceptance of whatever support Ethiopia was willing to give. This is really much ado about nothing! The goal of an opposition (particularly against a powerful dictatorship) is and should be to weaken and destroy the oppressive regime in a variety of ways preferably all on its own but when it lacks resources to mount an effective assault on its enemy, there is absolutely nothing wrong with asking for outside help provided there are no strings attached that would compromise the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Eritrea. As far as I know, no such deals were ever made.

Ali Salim lamented that he was “sick and tired of the PURPOSELESS OPPOSITION” (his emphasis). This is of course totally untrue. The opposition in general may be weak and divided but it is not purposeless. It has a clearly defined and overarching goal namely the dismantlement of tyranny and dictatorship. If he failed to discern a purpose, could it be because he has been “hopping from one opposition to the other” (as he himself tells us) – perhaps searching for the one that agrees with him in everything? Did he finally find it in PFDJ? Could the same impatience be causing him to vacillate from one political stand to another? It appears to be so.

In reality though, Ali Salim’s U-turn is not as radical a departure from his previous views as it appears because he has never been one to favor democracy to begin with. He has unequivocally and publicly decried it once in one of his articles and relented only when I drew his attention to it in an article I wrote in response (ii). A U-turn? Not quite. More like a wrong turn! I would dramatize it like this:

Ali Salim was driving through a bewildering maze of winding roads seeking for the ideal opposition when he suddenly and accidentally found himself deep in enemy territory. Glib that he is, he quickly assured his captors that he has already dissociated himself from the opposition; thereupon, he was given a copy of Hobbes’s Leviathan (iii) and instructed to: “go and share your new-found enlightenment with your former comrades but thou shalt not speak ill of us”. ().

I am done teasing Ali Salim ….it pains me that people like him keep forcing us to discuss issues that we thought were decades behind us. What he has been advocating is qualitatively not different from what the die-hard shaebians of yesteryear used to champion (my government right or wrong). How disappointing!

The next issue we will discuss (chaos scare) is also an old one that many shaebians and many in the panicky camp (including Ali Salim) exploit most. I will therefore dwell on it a little longer.

The Chaos bogeyman: a favorite tool of dictators

No dictator worth the name ever fails to invoke it. Since time immemorial, dictators have always claimed the right to exclusive and unilateral authority based precisely on such a pretext. It is a convenient tool for the dictator who realizes that a chaotic situation is more of a danger to him than to the populace at large but when the victims themselves fall for the ruse, it is utterly and laughably sad!

The underlying assumption here is that life under dictatorship is better than a possible chaos. Note the emphasized word. This is something imagined and speculative while dictatorship is “a clear and present danger”. The chaos line of argument received a boost recently with what is happening in the Arab world but I think the comparison is unwarranted. Though impossible to say with certainty, I consider it unlikely because the usual raw materials for wider chaos (ethnic/religious/racial rivalry) are largely absent in Eritrea. Who will fight against whom in Eritrea? What Shias or Alawites will fight against what Sunnis? What is the likelihood of an all-out war between Christians and Muslims? In my estimation, inter-tribal or inter-religious hatred has never reached critical levels that we find elsewhere.

The only real chaos we can reasonably expect is between those in power and the Eritrean public and this is the kind of chaos we should all welcome! It is a truism that those with vested interest will never go down easy and that is why almost all struggles against entrenched dictators usually go through a chaotic period of some sort. As Thomas Paine once put it, “tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered”. The Arab world is currently going through a difficult period. Our proclivity to stereotype may incline us to condescendingly point and say those lawless Arabs or Muslims but if we could sneak back in history with our video cameras we would probably witness similar scenes in almost all revolutions and civil wars of Europeans we so idolize today. We have a recent example in the former soviet republics and in the ongoing debacle in Kiev. Because of its geopolitical importance, foreign interference is adding to the complexity and difficulty but in the end, freedom fighters in the Arab world will also triumph and all that is happening now will be history as was the centuries-long European wars and civil wars.

Chaos is not to be feared if it carries with it the possibility of removing tyranny. If you were to ask the many innocents who are withering away in various shaebia dungeons, prison camps, or pining away in perpetual serfdom all over Eritrea if they would be willing to risk chaos in the country for a chance of freedom, the resounding response is likely to be “YES! Bring it on!” This is because to them, Eritrea is already in a nightmarish, lawless, and chaotic situation. The only difference is that the current chaotic agent is the anarchic government – a veritable killing machine that has killed and will continue to kill until it is totally dismantled. Isn’t it asinine therefore to agonize over the hypothetical possibility of chaos when one is already living in a reign of terror? Isn’t it worth risking a chaotic period for the chance of ending dictatorship? Isn’t the definition of courage going after possibilities despite or in spite of real risks?

Moreover, we will never totally escape from chaos – we will only defer it for a much greater chaos as what has been seething suddenly blows in our face with a vengeance. Dictatorship in the long-run causes far greater cumulative damage to the nation as a whole than chaos-ridden revolts though the short-term intensity of the latter may appear greater.
Struggle for freedom- Will it ever end?

Some will ask: how long do you expect Eritreans to struggle for freedom? The answer is as long as it takes! Why? Because slavery is an evil that must be fought resolutely no matter how long it takes or how hard it gets. If you have been waiting for the struggle for freedom and justice to end, you may be shocked to learn that it never will! ”The struggle did not end when Mandela was released from prison” wrote a journalist recently and “it cannot end with his death. In one form or another, it must continue. And it will.” Our own struggle did not end with independence and the ongoing struggle will continue long after the demise of dictatorship. Struggle for freedom is a never ending quest. Ask African Americans or any other groups that fought long and hard for freedom. So don’t let anyone dampen your spirit by counting the years of struggle.

There are no short-cuts to fighting dictatorships – period; no alternatives to ending oppression but through sustained sacrifice and struggle. I wish there were! Even if we have to do it stumbling, falling, or limping, the struggle must continue because left to its own devices, a dictatorship will continue to embed its powers deeply and the longer we wait fearing chaos, the stronger it becomes.

We must also constantly keep in mind that a dictatorship’s destructiveness is not confined to the political sphere alone. Economically, it rapidly and unremittingly drains the nation’s resources; intellectually, it stifles creativity and the pursuit of knowledge; socially, it unilaterally imposes norms and rules of conduct; diplomatically, it ignites wars and cataclysms. It is an ongoing disaster in every way and from every angle.
Let us therefore say No to dictatorship! No to PFDJ sycophants/apologists! No to unionists!

Thanks for reading my thoughts and happy Easter!
Ismailomar10@gmail.com

p.s. I was saddened by the news of Ahmed Nasser’s passing like many Eritreans. He was, by all accounts, an exemplary patriot – a resolute man in every way. May Allah grant him Janna and may He give patience to his family, relatives, and all he knew and loved him. Thanks Saleh G for enlightening us about ELL and Medrekh so courageously and so eloquently. It takes a man of character to go against kith and kin…against friends. So kudos to you!


(i) YG is to the unionists what Semere T is to the pseudo-opposition groups. The contrast and similarity between the two is quite striking. Both are voluminous writers; both like to pepper their articles with propaganda-like repetitious formulas; one fantasizes about unity with Ethiopia; the other about a blended Eritrea where all are subsumed; one loves Ethiopia so much that he can see no future for Eritrea except under its wings; the other hates Ethiopia so much that he has recurring nightmares of roaring invading Ethiopians. Divergent in their tactics and goals, they converge in what they target; both are in the business of defaming, demonizing, and crashing the spirit of genuine opposition. They also converge in their extreme positions about religion. They both fear or imagine Muslims may fare better in a post-Isayas Eritrea. Yosief wants to escape such a “horrible fate” by uniting with Ethiopia; Semere (and Ali Salim?) by extolling /exonerating/sanitizing PFJD.

(ii) http://awate.com/ethno-tribal-politics-religion-and-democracy/ (the last 7 or so paragraphs)

(iii) Thomas Hobbes was a great political philosopher who was a pessimist through and through and an advocate of dictatorship (particularly in the form of monarchy). He genuinely believed that masses are better off under a despotic government but his contention that those with absolute power can always be decent and should be obeyed undercut his philosophical legacy so much so that that no one takes that aspect of his philosophy seriously anymore though he may have found a willing disciple in the person of Ali Salim.

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  • haile

    how do you say your pen name ግዑት? As in ዝተጋዕተ? Some of my messages are pure speculation and some simple facts stop being ገዓት Mr ግዑት። I replied to your earlier comment about “pushing out hgdef” too. It was lost, may message was that you lost the argument and that is why you have nothing of substance to say. ግዑት ናይ ብሓቂ….peace out

    • Guet

      Haile the G*

      We shifted into insults now? Don’t worry; I am not going to reply in kind, because, here at awate, we tolerate our champion retard.

      You see none of your comments stand on their own, you always (I mean, always) need another comment to explain yourself. As far as wining arguments goes, I am afraid it all is in your head. Bullying, high charged emotions, fear induced jerkiness, added with awate.com’s tolerance of their retard, yes, wining a decent argument? no.
      Any reason why your comment is lost?

      *No, the G doesn’t stand for Great. I respect you so much not to mock you

  • Papillonn

    Dear Moderator,

    Why is my comment not posted? Thank you.

  • haile

    Stop lying, history has already judged you. you in fact have indirectly have a hand in tragedies like this by supporting a regime that is the principal cause of it. If you think history will forgive you, keep dreaming. Yes the “trigger factors” would cause revolutions not the presence or absence of opposition. The more tragedies like this sadly happen, the more you are shown for the naked aremien that you are. I love to see you show your face when this regime falls, bid your time.

  • Hope

    “ኣብ ዲፕሎማስያዊ መዳይ ሃገሮም ምስ ጎረባብታ ብዘይካ ኤርትራ ፅቡቅ ዝምድና ከምዝፈጠረት ክገልፁ ከለው፣ኣብ ልዕሊ ኤርትራ ዝተወሰነ ማዕቀብ ቤት ምኽሪ ፀጥታ ሕ/ሃ ንክቅፅል ክንዲ ዝካኣለና ክንሰርሕ ኢና ኢሎም.
    The words of the Ethiopian PM,Hailemariam Desalegn.
    Courtesy of the VoA.
    This is the same PM who was bluffing about going to Asmara for peace talks with PIA but changed his mind per an executive order of his Masters at EPRDF/TPLF Headquarters.
    And the Pseudo-Opposition will say what?
    “Yeah—good job PM!!!
    Have your say.

    • AMEN

      Q?
      But first did he and his country offer or offered what it gave to the other
      neighbours ? May be we could solve this through honest discussion ?

  • Hope

    You keep rehabing them like Dr Saba is trying to do….teach them and learn form them as well.
    Kokhob Selam—said it so.

  • Hope

    Aman,
    Defeatism and kneeling down is NOT an Eritrean culture,Bro.
    You better stay strong—

    • AMAN

      It is not defeatism but one can not communicate with
      an already defeated one.
      They are in two different worlds.
      No matter how it is faked it shows itself off.

  • Hope

    Thank you Dawitom:
    Courtesy of Dawit/Time Magzine.
    “By logic, the Nation of Eritrea (pop.3 million) should not exist. The secessionist province’s independence fighters ought never to have defeated Ethiopia in their 30-year-long struggle. They were outmanned, outgunned, abandoned or betrayed by every ally; their cause was hopeless. They won by force of character, a unity and determination so steely not all the modern armaments, super power support or economic superiority of Ethiopia could withstand it. The spirit that saw the Eritreans through 10 years
    in the trenches of their mountain redoubt at Nakfa has built them a Nation from scratch; since independence was finally consummated in 1993.”
    Who else could say it better if the “Time Magazine”,the mouth piece of the same Giant,which has been part of the worst “Odds”?

  • Eyob Medhane

    Haile,

    I miss talkin’ to you, man.

    Boy, do I have a chop for you?! You may have seen it before, but for me, it’s my first time.

    http://www.tubechop.com/watch/2656751

    The translator is horrible. He adds stuff up, but overall, it’s interesting…..
    Let me know what you think… 🙂

    • haile

      hey Eyob,

      The same as saay, I did actually see that video and also followed those events in person from inside Eritrea at the time. But it is nice you brought up this interesting clip.

      Regards

      • Eyob Medhane

        Haile,

        Thank you brother. Sal has provided me with more clips. I never knew about these negotiations. I was very young (only 15) at the time to follow politics. All I remember of that time was running away to avoid ‘afessa’. Do you have any articles online I can read about it? I just wanted to know more about it. Thank you, Hailsha.. 😉

  • guest

    Haile (The Gr8) – a man with millions of contradictions.

    In your reply to me (And also in almost all of your comments here at awate), you never never fail to accuse/bash those
    you want your people (opposition? Ethiopians? or both) to believe are HGDF or HGDF supporters. Some of the things you say are:

    1. Government
    supporters are given instructions from HGDF to hate Tigrayans. (Sometimes you mix up Woyanie with Tigrayans, as if they mean the same, as if people are not noticing,)

    2. You claim the so called regime supporters, instructed by the regime (of course), always resort into labeling people as Woyanie, kedat, telamat, sheyeti adom, etc, just because the other people called for justice. For instance, this is
    what you said to me;

    “.that to oppose the regime is to sell the country, that the regime’s atrocity is defending thenation, Eritrea would fall into wars and chaos if the attrocity of the regime is stopped, calling the opposition pupets, sellouts, corrupt… is done either in “self agrandizment” or “agency of the regime””

    And you also gave Ermias (One of the confused young victims of YG, who sal is trying hard to seave) the following advice

    “..If Hayat or any one tell you they are Eritrean, we better work with that. What do you have from me other than my word? This is discussions held in good faith on declared personal details. It is better to resist the thinking that comes from a PFDJ damaged brains that has made all this mess in the first place…”

    I totally agree with you on the second one, absolutely!. For instance look what this moron, archetypal regime supporter:

    Accuses Amanuel Hidrat, Hayat, Serray etc of treason, calling them all kind of names:
    http://awate.com/djibouti-and-isaias-afwerkis-secret-visit-to-qatar/#comment-1171220135

    Calling and giving people Ethiopian identity:
    http://awate.com/eritrean-unity-as-power-over-life/#comment-1171236078
    , to which Sal to get off that person’s bus

    On YG and co
    http://awate.com/eritrean-unity-as-power-over-life/#comment-1171220462

    The list is long……

    But hold on a sec, who is that individual?….ooops I, it was YOU!

    • Hope

      Bingo,Mr/Ms Guest!
      Ab suk zello mensequasuk..

    • Ermias

      Guest, the sad thing is there are still so many Eritreans like you – the number is dwindling but much too slowly. That is the one absolute biggest thing that makes me lose hope.

      Let me tell you one thing. Back in 1998, I was really young but I knew the war with weyane was going to be very destructive because unlike derg, the Tigrayans know us inside out so it wasn’t difficult for them to inflict so much damage in such a short time. In some ways, I am proud of myself to have thought forward and stood against the war. But a lot of my friends told me that I was terraray. Now, I am advising you all that ‘let’s know our limits, work with the resources we have, negotiate, make strong friends, learn humility, we are more or less at the mercy of weyane for a reason I couldn’t careless about.’ Given all this, again, let’s stop being ignorants and wage war of words because if that turns into war of firearms then, kiss everything goodbye. But I worry so much because I have all my family in towns and in villages of Eritrea scattered around. In addition, my fellow country men and women. But you berger eaters here…label the forward thinkers as wishy washy, TPLF agent, agame, what have you. Well, time will tell who is right and who is wrong.

      • SM

        Ermi,
        Here are few of the facts that I know about:
        -The Opposition is still chaotic and disorganized and dependent on external forces.
        If some Pseudo – Opposition members are telling us to follow our enemies’ policy ,then they are Weyane agents.
        -We ,most debtors here,agree that we need urgent change in Eritrea but we are disagreeing on the modes,modalities,ways,strategies etc…of how to bring change.
        Those real or perceived enemies of Eritrea,who are interfering in our internal business as Pseudo – Eritreans and who are trying to prescribe for us “non-FDA” approved medications,are considered as TPLF agents..
        I think 12 yrs of “Pseudo- Oppositionism “is fair enough to judge the Pseudo -Opposition.
        We are looking for real Eritrean solutions for Eritrean problems by real Eritreans.
        BTW,do not forget that this kind of debating culture is an intrinsic Eritrean culture that should be improved.
        Calling each other as Weyane,Hamushay Mesri’e,Traitor,etc… are common street languages that should be improved,albeit,they are used as a cheap propaganda. …
        Yes,I agree that time will tell us to who is who.
        If you visit the Tesfanews and Madote comment sections,you will understand what I am saying.
        So ,no surprise but the main thing is that we have to push for real change no matter what ad the Truth and Justice will prevail.

    • haile

      Guest,

      1 – Let me give you a quick advice on how to comment a self maintaining comments (some people call them smart comments): write your comments and read them as if five years from now. That way when a smart alec guy is digging you up, they would be pleasantly surprised. My comments are self-maintaining, no need to read them for me, they are there for your educational pleasure. If you ever find be making contradictory stand, then quote me.

      2 – If I have offended you in the past and I recognize my wrong doings, I know to properly apologize and correct my ways. I despise PFDJ and its dogs to the brim. They can never be a cause for me to try to please, changing and updating one’s views are called dynamic and versatile. You keep your barren consistency to yourself, When I take positions there are good reasons on ground that make me do so.

      3 – “All regime supporters” is your word and “taking instruction from the regime” is your word, keep hearing your own music, you have no taste to improvement.

      Why are you taking side against a person who is against racial bigotry? Who you trying to cover up for on distinction between Tigray and the leadership? Don’t insult the intelligence of others please, there are culturally entrenched prejudice and the organized work of HGDEfites to manipulate that by directly launching racial vitriolic against Tigray, its people and its language. You don’t represent us guys, you are Me’Ebeya zbedelo kfal hbretesebana happen to be in power. B’elug atehasasba ktdgF mehfereka…mewaredi

      (PS: Saba: good points, I will reply soon. Saay – yeqenyeley: good summary of my humble work here, there will be some updates soon:-)

      • Guest

        1. You said “My comments are self-maintaining, no need to read them for me, they are there for your educational pleasure”

        a) self-maintaining?

        Indeed they were self sustaining. No question about that. A great guy wrote them after all. Look at this one for instance. Sort of your trade mark (It shouts Great – I mean the real one)

        http://awate.com/eritreas-dismal-human-development-report/#comment-1171219829

        But, I am afraid I can’t say the same about your current diminished state and embarrassingly childish comments though. Lately, your focus is more on insulting HGDF supporter, justly of unjustly (And talk about hate!) , so much so that, you have to improvise your replies from comment to comment, and in doing so, most of the time than not, you shoot your own foot. Or at least you sound silly. At times, embarrassingly hilarious, at other times, when you bark so loud you sound like an elderly continuously angry father, abusing his wife and children, at other times you change into this know it all elderly trying to give advice to a house full of extra smart people. And yet again, at other times you act like a horrible teacher wrongly advising some minors or those with diminished mental capacity (I swear Ermias, you are not on my mind when I said that). At other times you hallucinate and seem to be talking to yourself. But the most disgusting of all, and extremely painful to watch, the meekness and abnormally kneeling and bending so low for Woyanie. My goodness, what personal issue so grave is reducing you to this useless level, my friend? what? share it with us please, we can help. We don’t want to loose you.

        b) Educational?
        Does that mean you stand by what you said and by your accusation of people and you don’t agree with me the guy (The old you in past life) who said this is not a moron?

        http://awate.com/there-are-no-shortcuts-to-struggle-for-freedom/#comment-1356051116

        2. “If I have offended you in the past and I recognize my wrong doings, I know to properly apologize…”

        Could you please provide a link or some thing that shows when and to who you offered your apologies? Couldn’t find it.

        Here, let me summarize for you who you insulted before:

        A. To Hayat

        http://awate.com/eritrea-africa-the-last-big-man-standing/#comment-1171220645

        B. Accusing Serray of treason

        http://awate.com/eritrea-africa-the-last-big-man-standing/#comment-1171199265

        Calling people some names:

        http://awate.com/the-politics-of-betrayal/#comment-1171199402

        Labeling people as “unionists” and propossing for Stripping them of their Eritrean
        nationality

        http://awate.com/eritrea-africa-the-last-big-man-standing/#comment-1171199227

        On Unionists

        http://awate.com/eritrean-conditions-reflections-on-independence-day/#comment-1171199165

        To be continued

  • haile

    agamena? huh…what a racist bigot…watch your mouth..

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Awatistas,

    Below is a link – a gift to Semere Tesfay, a brother who failed to identify the nature of Issayas and his party, but at the same time who never failed to say “I am not defending PFDJ”. Why is it a gift for him? It is a gift, because I thought it might help him to have clarity on what the regime is and for what it stand for. I have asked him how he identify the regime. He can’t come with an answer.

    http://togoruba.org/togoruba1964/mainTogorubamap/mainMap/headingMap/2014A/2504NP4-13NT.pdf

    • haile

      Selamat Aman,

      Both of you and Semere Tesfay being an Ex-ELF, the difference couldn’t be stark. You took the natural route that propelled you to be tegadalay in the first place. Instead of begrudging the Eritrean people as a result of what happened in medda, you moved on. You are working to improve the situation of the Eritrean people in the same manner, by being an advocate of peace and justice. The likes of Semere Tesfay are getting a kick out of playing devils advocate because they resent the Eritrean people. To them the current miseries and tragedies of Eritreans is ” none sense” and those who talk about it are “stupid” in his own words. It might even be music to his ears considering that he knows what he is doing. To me, if ELF lead the way, the Eritrean people would have supported it just as they did to EPLF. Semere Tesfay need not behave like a child given a bucketful of candies at the miseries of the Eritrean people. He would like you to not call PFDJ evil, let me try another one #@#$$ Freaking SHEYTAN that should get lost asap. Over at assenna, you probably read the two children and a sister of an Eritrean refugee to the US who were eaten by wild animals as they tried to cross to Ethiopia. Decent countries allow people to apply for visa, not under the FREAKING EVIL regime. Semere might be smiling ear to ear at the tragedy befallen to another father just like him. Let him know that the hole is already dug, it is a matter of who is gonna go into it.

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Hailat,

        First thank you, for the simple reason, you exactly understood my position and my effort towards that effect. But the tragedy you read at Assenna about the death of the two young kids and eaten by scavengers, it is an excruciating pain to the souls of Eritrean people who have the instinct of humanity. The father of the two kids Kibrom Frezghi who resides in Philadelphia, USA, is about two hours drive from where I live. It is a sad story and I don’t know when it ends this continuous tragedy. The young father lost his two kids and his sister. A memorial service for Kibrom’s kids and his sister is set on April 26, 2014 in Philadelphia (that is tomorrow). Let us pray for them to rest in peace and God to give full strength to Kibrom (the father) and the rest of his family.

        Amanuel Hidrat

        • haile

          Thanks Aman,

          I guess to us who are far away from the victims family, it is all one story. The story of Sinai, the story of the deserts, the story of the high seas, the story that people like like Semere consider only “stupid” people talk about it or shed light on the political causes and future ramifications. If we don’t talk about this, If we don’t acknowledge the evilness of the regime then what is the point? The primary goal of all this should have been to bring the regime’s atrocities to an end not to run an audit on an opposition one hasn’t given a dime to begin with. I say it can only be ill motivated.

          Regards

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Hailat,

            It is precisely that. I can’t agree more.

      • Jo

        Selamat Haile,

        So far I have not seen Semere Tesfai defending or playing devils advocate. What makes you think short of your way or anything you say is wrong? That is, I think, called absolutism – wich got us into all this mess to begin with. You know, waging your fingers and toting guns is not going to solve our problems, it never has anywhere else. Why don’t you take things at face value instead of translating them to fit in your black and white scheme. There is a lot of grey in between, you know! and if you are serious about changing the system in Eritrea, you can not do it without involving those who are in the grey. And you are loosing them just by resorting to this “let us weed them out, destroy them….” argument. I don’t think imposing a binary solution to an analogous problem is a way to go.

        I am just wondering, can you please tell me why anyone would want a change by somebody whose primary goal is to punish, label, and marginalize those who don’t agree with him? What makes him different than those he is fighting against? Please take the question at face value, I am not trying to compare you with PFDJ, and answer the question without raising side issues.

        Luwam zelewo meAlti!!

        • Hope

          That is Halat’s way of debating people.If you are not with him,you are with HGDEF mendef.
          He seems to the student of George W. Bush,Jr,who told us, Eritreans:”Either you are with us or with them..No mid way/neutral way is allowed as this is the new World order”.May be he will be ok if you repeat Weyane’s Litany to him and join the Smerr Paltak sponsored and monitored by Aboy Sibhat and Bereket Simon–then he will be a “Happy Camper and will be-friendd–you—BFF.

      • Hope

        I feel sorry for the whole family and wish them condolence and strength and may God have His Mercy on them.
        But,please,let’s be fair here and stop poiticizing these things again.
        In my humble opinion,I do not believe these people should have chosen that unpredictable path.
        As to the Visa issue,I thought every Nation has its policies and we have to abide by the rules of the day,wether they are bad or good as long as applied to all of us equally.
        I advised my nephew NOT to cross to Libya at all as he has had multiple choices of:
        -Staying home and finishing school
        -Staying in the Sudan and finish his school–then wait for family Sponsorship
        -Opening business in the Sudan
        But he left to Libya without my knowledge and asked me from Libya for $4k to cross the Mediteranean Sea,simply due to some peer pressure–old friends calling him fro Norway/Sweden and Swiss….It became a modern Fashion..
        He was lucky enough to make it to Italy just few days before the Lampadusa Tragedy.
        An Eritrean lawyer lost his brother whom he personally advised and paid for, to go to Khartoum through a River in a boat,but unfortunately,the boat capsized and he lost his brother.
        The same Lawyer—did his best to be one of the ” Best” and most aggressive Human Rights Activists and used any language,any possible means to curse and defame the GoE for his brother’s loss.
        What a pity!!
        Now,can any rational human being try to justify these and related tragedies by pointing the finger at the GoE,aka, PFDJ?.
        We have to work hard as to how to improve the home situation by any means possible constructive way rather than sitting behind computers in a comfort zone and shout about PFDJ.
        Perosnally,if my nephew did not make it,I would rather have cursed myself for ever for paying that $4K that led to his loss,but I guess, God loves us and did not want to allow this to happen to us,praised be His Name!!!
        Unfortunately, I have to admit that we lost 3 close family members in the Sahara Desert and in the Mediteranean Sea,like most Eritrean Families.
        That is why I decided NOT to pay a single penny-for such kind of deadly businesses—No way jose!!.
        Let them stay alive in the Trenches of the border untill the right time comes—sorry,this is my opinion and my understanding of the situation,rather than being victims of of modern slavery,organ harvesting;adeda AIDS and TB,Prostitution,etc—in the camps of Tigray.
        Yeah—yada,yada,PFDJ is responsible for all these and it should be weeded out.Fine…do it,menghedi Cherki yigberelkum.
        But we should have a better mode/ means of Struggle,rather than being part of the problem and playing the games of Political Prostitution and Poltical acrobatism.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Mr. Hope,

          Forget to say don’t politicize it? It is the politics (politics is how to govern your people) and the policy of the regime that is pushing them to look an exit from their own country. Nothing else. Have clarity in your mind. If you can’t free yourself you can free others or solve their problem.

          • Hope

            You are entitled to your opinon as I am—-but will not buy your way of telling that ” My way is the High Way”.
            Emma,we know each other very well.you tried the other way–you failed and keep trying another way.
            I wish you good luck.

          • Hope

            Plus,try also you,yourself, to have a clear mind”.Weyo neti natensi ni-enda hamten”.
            You tell us at times that PFDJ should be weeded out but at the same time,you advise us that it is ok if PFDJ wants to stay as a Poitcal Party—Just admit your weakness andm istakes—Semere tesfay hit you hard on that.
            kemish Adey hanquiluni—-does not work.
            You can make a proper and legal U-Turn and no body will blame you,rather, admire and appreicate you.
            Case in point,your friends’way of making U-Turns might be advisable.(SAAY,Johar,Ali Salim—,whom I admire well for their reconicliatory tone and approach).

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Hope,

            Because some one accused me of that doesn’t mean I said it. I think you read someone accusing me. Where did and when did I say “PFDJ should be weeded”? you are in trouble. That phrase is coined by SGJ. Mine is “the system must be dismantled”. Hence the system and the party is different thing. One thing you are sure about me I am against “u-turn.” That is it. No ambiguity on position.

          • Hope

            My apology Emma—I did not accuse you or at least,I did not mean or intend to do so–emotion–issue.
            But I ask you to answer SM’s questions.

          • SM

            Emma,
            Ok .I hear you and I agree with you at least in “Principle”.
            The system should be dismantled so that the Policy will improve and the Tragedies willl go away…. or will minimize.
            Now, help me as to how to dismantle the system,under what condition….when…etc…?
            I am of the impression,as Hope said it,that we all are on the same page about the need of urgent change…..
            But we are eating and biting each other by saying:”My way or strategy ” is better than yours” and you are this and that….
            How can we close that gap and reach to a concensus so as to dismantle the system in question?
            I think that should be the core agenda and topic of our debate.
            I know we tried to discuss about the all options on the table; but how can we realize and put in practice all the options on the table?
            The way we are doing business is unproductive ..
            At least we have to have a basic FOUNDATION.
            Please advise.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam SM,
            Your question is the center of our problem (in the opposition). The only suggestion I could have at this time is somehow to come to a round table and make some conscious dialogic discussion and come with a kind of plan and a strategy for success. The initiative could be taken by some concerned intellectuals of all colors and stripes that reflect the rainbow of Eritrean society. I am just hinting somewhere how to start. Those who takes the initiative have to make some commitment. From that they must know how to swim in this stormy Eritrean politics to bring us in to the promise land. How do you think about that?

            SM, Simply of asking that fundamental question makes you how sincere you are and how on a pivotal course of searching solution you are, to our socio-political quagmire .

          • Ali-S

            Hello SM & Emma,
            SM I think your question is the nail and Emma your answer is OK but sort of too broad to be practical because it has been tried a hundred times the latest being NCDC (:-). The end we are looking for is identical and the means is struggle. Here the feasible solutions are infinite and there is no way any two people will agree on everything. If they are to work effectively, they have to agree on at least most things (like people in one organized action should).
            How about I intrude by suggesting this:
            Let us narrow down the set of acceptable solutions (i.e. reduce them from infinity). We are suggesting that we rule out any solution that might lead to a civil war. This will cut the options to at least half.
            If we want to eliminate the difference we can add the condition that no solution will include collaboration with Eritrea’s enemies.
            What do you say?

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Haw Younis,

            First no one will call for civil war. Civil war doesn’t come by desire. In any circumstances if civil war is to happen, it is out of the reality on the ground and we can’t control it. It explodes as a sadden of a tipping point of a harsh oppression. You can’t stop it by declaring “no civil war.” To avoid not to be out of control, we should do our home work not by appeasing the regime, bu by strangulating it from and inside and outside. Remember such regimes as ours you can’t make without sacrifice except we try our best to minimize it. Check the non-violence South African sacrifice to dislodge apartheid state machine.

            Second the NCDC model and the model I am suggesting is different. I am talking something sponsored by independent individual intellectuals based on studying the nature of our conflicts and our differences, to finally pull all the actors and social forces to the center of gravity of our crises, through dialogic discussion to find a soft landing to the Eritrean politics. It is just my view.

        • Guest

          Hope,

          People like Amanuel* and Haile** PRAY for, and CHERISH when any kind of disasters befall upon the Eritrean people. So don’t be surprised if they pretend to cry more than anybody else. None of them care about any of the Eritrean victims nor do they give a hoot about the father of the victims. Look, for instance, what haile has to say to Saba. Pay close attention to the “Trigger” he was praying for

          “Critical mass [of opposition] will be reached with a ‘trigger factor’ that would bring things to ahead. The Lampedusa was a case in point, it not only showed how things like that can move events
          but also demonstrated the organizational capacity of those opposed to the regime.”

          To him, the tragic news** he brought here; is simply a trial and error on finding that aspired “trigger”.

          *How an individual who has never been to Eritrea for over 40 years can be any kind of spokes person of Eritreans is mind boggling. Whenever this person opens his mouth, the following thoughts come to mind:
          The victims (Lampedusa, Sinai, the latest ones, and others) all are young, and though it is understandable to argue pain of any Eritrean is felt by all Eritreans, but still the pain is way painful to the close families. In that direction of thinking, people like Amanuel, who have severed their ties to Eritrea some 40 years ago, almost definitely do not have or have not lost any close family member (Like Son, Grand Son, cousins etc..) at all. At least compared to the people inside Eritrea, including the leadership members whose children are the ones to suffer when disaster hits.

          ** This time, even assena.com refrained from pointing any finger at the GOE or anybody else, but our man here is from another planet

          Right now I don’t know, I could not even comprehend what the father of the victims is going through. But I could say, with a certainty, his pain is beyond simple pain, not because the GOV did not give his kids a vise, but because he himself dragged his innocent kids (8 & 12yrs, for God’s sake!) to take that route. I don’t know what I will do if I were him. But, the last thing I will need at that time is for a crappy old man, like Amanuel Hidrat* to come to my house to rub my wounds by preaching how awful the Eritrean government is.

      • Guet

        “..Instead of begrudging the Eritrean people as a result of what happened in medda, you[Amanuel Hidrat] moved on. ”

        “..Instead of begrudging the Eritrean people . ”

        “..begrudging the Eritrean people.. ”
        You never stop tripping on your own words, do you?

        Why would an ELF begrudge the “Eritrean people” while the beef , if any, was with EPLF? Are you implying EPLF = The Eritrean people, or what (Another U turn?).
        Amanuel is drive is definately grudge and hate of EPLF/HGDF, no question about that.
        You are tripping

      • hope

        Hailat the Prosecotr and the Judge:
        .Mind you, people are entiltled to their opinion and as far as I am concerned, Semere Tesfay’s arguements and suggestions are PERFECT,RATIONAL,REALISTIC and IDEAL to our situation.by all standard, as his arguements are:
        -Rational
        -Reasonable
        -Common sense approach
        -Natural
        -Reconciliatroy
        -Balanced
        -Inlcusive
        -Compromising
        -Justifiable
        -Reaslistic
        -Practical——provided we have rational,reasonable,compromising—-parties.
        If your arguement is that since PFDJ is criminal,then it should be” weeded out by all means possible”,then you are against all of the above parameters/requahitat and you are even worse than the “Criminal PFDJ” and as such/hence, you should be” weeded out” by all means possible.
        There is ONLY but only ONE homework we have:
        How to make the PFDJ either to sit down for a National Reconciliation and/ or to Surrender.
        How do we do it?
        You know better than me–but NOT through ” My Way is the ONLY Highway” rhetoric.
        Dr Tewelde proved to us that we can easily mobilize the public but Cyber Politics, isolated and disorganized Activism alone will not do the job.
        But we do NOT need Aboy Sibaht or Bereket Simon though-as we are Eritreans–The CAN DO people.
        We just need a good and an organized Guasa/Shepherd/Leadership, coz,as SAAY,said it eloquently,there is nothing that can match the Eritrean Fierce Nationalism in the world and Eritreans are iron dicipilined and self-governing people–without a piece of exaggeration.

        • haile

          “But we do NOT need Aboy Sibaht or Bereket Simon though-as we are Eritreans–The CAN DO people.”

          You need to first deal with your Anthropophobia of Tigray. I hate to share a future of hate and isolation in the future Eritrea. If you have big muscle and healthy heart, run across the plains of Badme and show us your balls. I know my people in Eritrea and those in Ethiopia are the once to pay if your hate-mongering was to pay fruit. Nobody would take off that burger from hand or your comfortable life, the story would be different for our people that are caught between a rock and a hard shoulder. Tigrayans are our neighbors for eternity, if you hate that fact perhaps you should settle where you are. 3000 Eritreans per month are disagreeing with you with their feet. Only weak people live off the fear of others, we are better than that. As much as Ethiopians want from us, we need things from them too. Eritrean miseries is the work of the regime in Eritrea. I have FACTS to back that up, not empty rhetoric and fear projectionist attitude. A regime that banished the ENTIRE best and brightest of Eritrea and kept hostage the remaining in abject darkness has only you to sympathies with and justify its acts. Eritreans with half the rights denied to them would have made miracles. እንታይ’ሞ ቁርሱሳት ከለዉ። Semere might be all that to you and someone against the basic right of an Eritrean to write and discuss the current tragedies, to assist a dying regime. The alpha and omega of my opposition to hgdef is the current tragedies of Eritreans, you want to undermine me on that? Be my guest, you’ll just make a fool of yourself cause you lack facts.

          • tafla

            I didn’t see any hatred towards Tigrayans in that comment from Hope , he just mentioned two WEYANE officials, one of whom happens to be of Eritrean descent. So tell us great one, your less enlightened Eritrean compatriots, what do we have that the Ethiopians want and what can they do for us?

          • Hope

            Tafla,
            Let me repeat what I said before:’If you are NOT with him,you are a PFDJ supporter”.
            Remeber George W.Bush?–The “crazy Czar”,who messed up the whole USA and the whole world by his unholy rhetoric of his New World Order–“-Either with us or with them..” No room for midway–or compromise.
            As an Eritrtean, and personally,I will NOT buy anything that may compromise my safety/my country’s Inetrest—–

          • haile

            Seriously? This is why the regime got us where we are, it is an animal that can’t see where it is going until it gets whacked. If you don’t know what we need from each other as neighbors, it is sad, very sad indeed. At the very least, you can run to you’r neighbor’s home if yours is on fire (and the arsonist is one of your family member too)….

          • Hope

            Here is what our real and “considerate ” neighbor is.
            “ኣብ ዲፕሎማስያዊ መዳይ ሃገሮም ምስ ጎረባብታ ብዘይካ ኤርትራ ፅቡቅ ዝምድና ከምዝፈጠረት ክገልፁ ከለው፣ኣብ ልዕሊ ኤርትራ ዝተወሰነ ማዕቀብ ቤት ምኽሪ ፀጥታ ሕ/ሃ ንክቅፅል ክንዲ ዝካኣለና ክንሰርሕ ኢና ኢሎም.
            The words of the Ethiopian PM,Hailemariam Desalegn.
            Courtesy of the VoA.
            This is the same PM who was bluffing about going to Asmara for peace talks with PIA but changed his mind per an executive order of his Masters at EPRDF/TPLF Headquarters.
            And the Pseudo-Opposition will say what?
            “Yeah—good job PM!!!
            Have your say

          • haile

            I will ask you a question, either answer it honestly or ignore it, no running around the bush..

            – Do you believe in the Eritrean people?
            – Do you believe in their capacity to make life for themselves?
            – Do you believe they could deal honorably and respectfully with others?
            – Do you think they can defend what is theirs, negotiate what is disputed and respect what belongs to others?
            – Do you think your fear mongering and utterly weak posturing vis a vis others?

            You are surprised that Ethiopia wants the sanctions continue and tightened? What surprises you? Weren’t you here telling us how PFDJ was justified to attack Ethiopia through “minimal support” of a devastating terror group? And now you’re surprised? I consider you HGDEF not because I knew so for sure bur

            1- you have no appetite to acknowledging the truth about hgdef
            2 – you make excessive use of Ethiopia and Tigray phobia to argue you case, I believe the average none hgdef Eritrean is much more discerning than that.

            Last question, IA was asked in Kampala, then Asmara to open banking facility for Eritrean business in Africa. He lied that he had plans finalized to do so (we know it is undoable in the current shape of the economy). However, most such Eritrean businesses are facilitated through Ethiopian banks at this time. Please verify with those in Juba and other places. I hold that you have no idea of current Eritrean reality, pure rhetoric of narrow nationalism to make useless points.

          • Hope

            -Yes, I said it repeatedly that Eritreans can be, and can do all the above and even better.
            -We exhausted in detail about the sins of PFDJ–Tsemam hade derfu.
            -You,on the same token, make excessive use of PFDJ and it sins–again tsemam hade derfu
            -Al Shebab was created either by proxy or indirectly by Ethiopia and its masters–by making a wrong decison–albeit deliberately-
            Al Shebab did not have any capacity to attack Ethiopia.
            -Eritrea organzied a better and peaceful Somali movement but deliberately “crashed’ by Ethiopia and its masters
            -It is Ethiopians/Tigreyans who chose and did everything to be hated by Eritreans.
            Let me ask you similar and related questions:
            1-Do you believe that the Ethiopians and their masters have been against the existence of Eritrea for the last 60yrs-and still continuing to do so?
            2-Do you believe that it was the Weyanes who orchestrated the war drum and provocations since 1990s–invaded openly besides the provocative and illegal maps of Abay Tigray? And if so,why did they do that?-
            3–Do you believe that they also unilaterally cancelled the bilateral Defense and Economic Agreement of both countries in 1997? If so,why did they do that?
            4-Do you believe that the Tigreyans on the borders had been harrassing and torturing Eritreans in the 1990s?
            5-And if so, do you believe that,this could also contribute to the hatred of the Tigreyans by the same Eritreans who were the victims of the harrassement and torture?
            6-Do you believe that the Tigreyans and their Leadership have deported under the worst conditions under the SUN,bare handed and with bare feet,neonates,post-partum Moms,Elderly people,pregnant women included,more than 80,000 Ethiopians of Eritrean origin and Eritreans who lived and worked for their entire life and contributed immensely for /to the development of Ethiopia?If so,do you believe that this atrocity could contribute to the hatred of Tigreyans by the same Eritreans,who have been the victims of this atrocity–with everlasting traumatic consequenses?
            7-Since you endorsed the “No War-No Peace Strategy”by the weyanes,do you believe that this strategy has crippled the Eritrean Economy and the EDF—the Youth –etc—- and if so,irrespective of your justification,do you believe that this Strategy by the Weyanes has contributed or can contribute to the hatred of the Tigreyans(by Eritreans)?
            8-Do you believe that the Weyanes/Tigreyans by default,have attempted every evil thing under the SUN to divide us based on Religion,Region,Tribe.Ethnic based politics,etc—and if so,do you believe that ,this startegy also could contribute to the hatred of the Tigreyans by Eritreans?
            etc—–

          • tafla

            Haile,

            You’ve gone full weyane now, do you really think the Eritrean refugees are going to Ethiopia to wait until the PFDJ is gone? It’s just a stepping stone to go to the west and you know exactly what happened to the peaceful demonstrators after the Lampedusa tragedy? what were they demanding? The latest statement of the Ethiopian PM is telling you that they are happy with their strategy of strangling the nation/people to get to the PFDJ. Sure the national service is the root cause, but do tell me how you would defend Eritrea? Do you think Ethiopia has the right to change any government it doesn’t like in the region? what if they don’t like future eri govs? I don’t buy the argument that EPRDF is the friend of the Eritrean people and PFDJ is the enemy of the Eritrean people, PFDJ may be brutal, but not enemies of their own people.

            BTW, you didn’t answer what we can do for the Ethio-gov and who will be our chief negotiator? Hopefully it will be someone who will not sell us out too cheaply.

            Have a good day !

          • Hope

            Tafla,here is what real hatred is/means:
            “ኣብ ዲፕሎማስያዊ መዳይ ሃገሮም ምስ ጎረባብታ ብዘይካ ኤርትራ ፅቡቅ ዝምድና ከምዝፈጠረት ክገልፁ ከለው፣ኣብ ልዕሊ ኤርትራ ዝተወሰነ ማዕቀብ ቤት ምኽሪ ፀጥታ ሕ/ሃ ንክቅፅል ክንዲ ዝካኣለና ክንሰርሕ ኢና ኢሎም.
            The words of the Ethiopian PM,Hailemariam Desalegn.
            Courtesy of the VoA

          • Guet

            Haile the G*
            You are tripping again. Sibhat Nega and Berekey are Woyanie public figures, ad they represent the Woyanie regime (Violating Eritrean land and tirelessly workig to dismantle Eritrea) How the hell is hating them for not aboding by law translated in to Hate of Tigrayans? You really are loosing it, otherwise how is it ok for you to spew your hate of your fellow Eritreans, HGDF with the honorable president included, while Eritreans should not say any thing against the agressor violating their nation?
            Who are you trying to impress here? and who are you trying to deceive (Appart from yourself?)
            You are loosing it

          • hope

            Talk theTALK man and walk- as well.–
            Yes, I have also the FACTS you claim to have but at the same I do have the other FACTS that you conveniently avoided to have/not to have.
            I hope you are NOT Aboy Sibaht or Bereket Simon or YG.

          • haile

            Let’s see what know baby…

            The PFDJ owned Ambereb corporation supplied vehicles to the ministry of health under a purchase financed by loan from the world bank. Eritrea has only been making minimum payments to service external loans and hence ows more than it borrowed at this instant. When and how did Ambereb come to be vehicle supplier? Where did the vehicles come from? When did this happen? How do the “civil works” payments claimed by Eritrea to loan sources compare to the actual pay received by the warsay who were forced to perform the tasks by force? Many have died horrible deaths trying to escape, who is responsible? Listen, your village science is of no consequence to me, I could be anybody I happen to be and is best if you stay clear of getting up close like that. It is rude and the results may not be nice. You seem to have trouble in recognizing how to keep respectful distance. Try it, it is good for all involved.

          • Hope

            I beg your pardon?It is only rude when it comes to us but who gave you the right and authority to insult us right and left?
            Here is what and who your real and “considerate ” neighbor is.
            “ኣብ ዲፕሎማስያዊ መዳይ ሃገሮም ምስ ጎረባብታ ብዘይካ ኤርትራ ፅቡቅ ዝምድና ከምዝፈጠረት ክገልፁ ከለው፣ኣብ ልዕሊ ኤርትራ ዝተወሰነ ማዕቀብ ቤት ምኽሪ ፀጥታ ሕ/ሃ ንክቅፅል ክንዲ ዝካኣለና ክንሰርሕ ኢና ኢሎም.
            The words of the Ethiopian PM,Hailemariam Desalegn.
            Courtesy of the VoA.
            This is the same PM who was bluffing about going to Asmara for peace talks with PIA but changed his mind per an executive order of his Masters at EPRDF/TPLF Headquarters.
            And the Pseudo-Opposition will say what?
            “Yeah—good job PM!!!
            Have your say

          • Hope

            I will show you my balls when the right time comes.
            Your Tigreayans and their leaders are boasting on a day light that their No Peace,No War Strategy has done a fantastic job in making those 3000 Eritreans to run away monthly and you seem to be excited with that strategy–huh–Congra Haile “the Great”.

          • haile

            Good for you, here is a picture recently (few days ago) taken from inside the Asmara airport runway! Hop on, it is waiting for your balls… 🙂

      • Jo

        Selamat haile,

        I am wondering if you are trying to insult, intimidate and bully people to silence? Whatever happened to civility? Yes. Semere may have a different approach than yours in dealing with our predicament, but it is not fair to characterize him the way you did above. Let alone Semere, as a father, it would be an imaginable for any one to be delighted at such tragedy. Please let us stop depicting people in tragedies they have nothing to do with. Let us also not use the tragedy of others to score political points: it is disrespect. Let them RIP.

        Let us be fair to each other!!!

        Luwam zelewo leiti!!!

        • haile

          ጆ፡ ቁም ነገር ሓዘል ዘረባ እዩ ዝተዛረብካዮ፡ ኮይኑ ግን ፈቲዩ ዝኣትዎ ከምዘየለ ክሕብረካ እደሊ። ጸገም ኤርትራዊ፡ ትዕበ ትንኣስ ብዝኽእላ ጸገመይ’ያ። ነዚ ዝገልጹ በሃማት’ዮም ዝበለ ገዲፍካ ምሳይ ጥራይ ክትላዘብ ምድላይካ ግን ብመንጽር ፍትሒ ኣሰካፊ ኩነታት እዩ። ብኸምኡ ዝማላእ ድልየት ድማ እንድዒ ኣይረኣየንን ንዓይ። ክሳርኡ ከይገድድ የሰክፍ እዩ።

          • Jo

            haile,

            I happen to read your comment and I responded to you spontaneously, but I didn’t mean to target you. I understand people will say things that they don’t mean in the heat of the moment, it is natural, unfortunately, when it involves victims of tragedy it creates a different dimension; that could be what grabbed my attention. It is not that we don’t agree on the tragedies befallen to us, but on the approach to a lasting solution. And, I think, we could only attain it if we could exchange Ideas in a civil and respectful manner.

            Selam!!!!

    • Jo

      Hello Amanuel,

      Selfi NaHda??? who are they? why would we believe what they are saying more than any news agency? What they are saying, is it verifiable? I have been following the exchange between you and Semere Tesfai, but I fail to see why this would be a gift ( as if it is the smoking gun) to him? Can you please clarify? Please start with Selfi NaHda is?

      Thanx!
      ….just curios.

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Hello Jo,

        First regarding Selfi Alnahda. If you are following the Eritrean politics you should know by now. But for detail you could go to their websites…..you could go to their website through any links on the major websites (eg.awate). Second as to the verifaibility of the news, it is the readers that should make their own research to verify it by digging info from other sources be it form inside and outside of Eritrea. Third, why it is a gift? I felt to provoke him to answer my questions and to disentangle him from ambivalence. Clarity is good for him and good for those who want to engage him. I hope I answered your question.

        • Jo

          Selamat Amanuel,

          Yes, you did. thanx! indeed.

    • Hope

      Come on Emma,
      Semere Tesfay’s mind and stand are as crystal as 2+2=4.
      Please–just challenge his arguements.
      Emma,with all due respect,you proved to us and to yourself many times that you have been “ambivalent”,to use your own terminology,with apology, if I am offensive.
      If you do NOT believe in “National Reconciliation”,then you have some kind of problems.
      I,respectfully, ask you rather, to free yourself from that kind of darkness.
      It is past-due for a National Reconciliation and if your arguement is going to be that the PPFDJ should be dismantled first—then God bless you and,please expedite that dismantling so as to start our National Reconcilaition.
      I made a brief reflection on his point and analogy between Eritrean and the Ethiopian case scenarios where he gave us an example of the TPLF Factions and other Ethiopians living peacefully,irrespective of what the past TPLF Leadership did or did not do–and I questioned him but,guess what?
      If the 80million plus people with 75 plus ethnic diversity and with that much amount of political difference have lived in harmony,why wouldn’t us,with only 6million people and only 9 ethnic diversity reconcile and live together?
      I know our history is a bit complicated but I think we have overcome the worst challenges under the SUN.
      Case in point,Prof Bereket’s brief but comprehensive review of our history in this forum—will shed light on how simple it should have been to reconcile and move forward–by forgeting our past and forgiving each other.
      Emma,take it or leave it,that is the ENKO(Only)solution for our mess,i.e.,National Reconilaition by any means and under any circumstance,which is a matter of urgency!!!.
      Respectfully,
      Hope
      Please advise.

  • Kokhob Selam

    when you say so recently, my reply was “go” but not this time. Be around my friend. we may have to learn from you and you may get lessons from us. God didn’t create garbage – everything is important in it’s proper time and place. the world is yours as it is mine and everybody’s. and awate (I think the best place for all) I learn that everyone of us is the center of all. the only different we have is the view, and all we have to do is just changing the place and see things. put yourself in my place and let me put myself in your place and examine things. but above all finding yourself and checking internally is important. so keep going. time will come when you change yourself, you may go a head or make U – turn like that great challenger Ali-salm from extremism to …..(I don’t know where) searching his own soul.

  • Semere Tesfai

    Semere Andom

    You said: “If Azieb Mesfin walks in freedom, she and her husband are reaping their investment. I do not see DIA and his wife doing that and you cannot be that optimistic for them to reap things they have not sown. If it is too late and the bottled up anger boils and DIA and his wife face the fate of Mussolini, you cannot really blame the opposition”.

    You can say that at your own risk; but I’m sure many Ethiopians would disagree.

    Anyway, you’ve made yourself very clear; and let me make mine very clear as well – so you can take it to the bank. I’m nobody and I don’t have much to change any tide; but having said that I will not sit quietly and I’ll not accept any mass execution announcement (Derg style) of my Eritrean compatriots under any pretext. And let me tell you why:

    We’ve been down that road many times. And all we ended-up with is grief and deep scares. If you care to know, Ela TsaEda (1966), Barka LaElay (1972), Gereger (1972), Weki-Zager (1974), Hashenit (1978), Arag (1979), allover Eritrea (1980-1981) and some more – are all young Eritrean grieve-yards of the TESFIA doctrine. Now tell me: how much carnage would it take for you to say ‘that’s it; it’s not working; let’s stop this madness’ – and try something different.

    And one more thing: just to show you your hypocrisy, I challenge you and your whole opposition camp, to list crimes that are/were committed by the EPLF/PFDJ leaders but are/were never, never, never….done (committed) by ELF leaders and their cadres. Can you?

    You said: “I find it disturbing for a former tegadalai advocating for the participation of PFDJ in the political space, without requiring any changes from them.”

    Why should I require them to do anything? I didn’t ask you. I didn’t ask any of the opposition. Sink, swim, ride the wave – let all run on their platform. If you can’t win on your platform against PFDJ, that’s your problem. Got it.

    As to PFDJ leaders being corrupt; I’ve yet to be sold on that. I admit like every person in higher position of government they have done their share of mistakes; but money corruption? I doubt it. The reason: Mesfn Hagos is in exile. Does he have millions in his bank account? I doubt it. And the same is true about Ali Abdu and all the other PFDJ top officials. In my humble opinion, when it comes to corruption many Africans would say, ‘I wish our problem was our problem’, but hey that’s me. By the way, the same is true with our opposition leaders; they are still dirty poor like me and you.

    That’s why I’ve and will always have soft spot for my Tegadelti brothers.

    • Hope

      kibur Vet,
      I am afarid that you might be dealing with some—strangers from Mars or Venus.

    • Semere Andom

      Selamat Semere Tesfay:
      Let us leave Ethiopians alone for now, they have their country and you and I have ours, that is until the PFDJ by you unfettered support destroys Eritrea or in the unlikely case the neo-andent have their wish, but the latter deserves and will be crushed. I agree with Sal.
      On our violent past: thanks for the lesson. I was not there, but as a awilling student of ghedli I know about it and I always endeavour to deepen my knowldege about these tragic events. I agree with you we should do everything humanely possible to avert the repeat of such horrific events. But unfortunely, it is the regime that you are exonerating that is determined to repeat those violent wars.
      On my hypocrasy: ELF is dead and the last time I checked dead people do not commit crimes, they can only haunt us. Your logic of : since ELF committed the same heinous crimes, therefore pfdj is excused to commit the same crimes is just cruel
      Your assumption about me of being ELF based opposition is wrong. I am not. It is just my kebessa culture, yes my kebessa dna that has won the majority lottery of demography to rule Eritrea tells me not to talk evil about the dead, otherwise I am critical of both
      You are accusing the opposition that they method has a potential to plunge the country to a carnage of civil and therefore they should change the way they fight the pfdj, saving the country from violence. According to this logic you are asking the opposition to change their platform that has the hall marks of inducing civil war and yet you are reluctant to demand the same from pfdj, this makes you first rate hypocrite.
      Semere, you keep repeating in almost every comment that you do not support the pfdj, please stop telling us that “the moon is shinning and show us the glint on the broken glass” as Anton Chekhove said
      I actually thought that you did good on the comment I replied to yesterday, but today you relapsed.
      Last but by no means least, you describe the crimes of pfdj against our citizens as “their share of mistake”, a mistake is what your teenage does when he succumbs to peer pressure and associates with the wrong crowd, no what pfdj is doing to the citizens for their unconditional love.
      Sem

      • Semere Tesfai

        Semere Andom:

        I think the main problem between my idea and yours (also many others) is a perception problem. When we say the PFDJ regime, I think you are looking the PFDJ regime through the image of the Ghedli dinosaurs that you see everyday and whom you know by name. Please, please don’t pay too much attention to those folks.

        Today, the Gedli Generation with all its baggage is already in the list of endangered species. I don’t know if you paid any attention, but many intelligent Eritreans on the comment section of Awate were begging and pleading to interview these “living files” (Tegadelties) before they are all gone – right after the untimely death of Ahmed M. Nasser.

        The point: I’m not trying to save the PFDJ dinosaurs who are at the edge of their graves. What I’m trying to save is you, yes you – the Post-Gedli generation from getting infected with the Gedli Generation TESFIA virus.

        The Post-Ghedli Generation are free of “crimes” aren’t they? And they are going to be in charge of the nation in less than a decade. Now can you justify the wisdom of your “violent regime change” to infect the Post-Ghedli generation with the same virus, so the carnage can continue? I hope I made my position very clear.

        Mokhusi: it is getting late in my time zone. So to borrow my hero Joe the Great’s words – ልዋም ዘለዎ ለይቲ።

  • Papillonn

    ኣታ ሰመሪኖ ሓወይ ሰብ ረኺበ ኢልካ ዲኻ ነዚ ሰመረ ተስፋይ ዝባሃል ሰብ ልቡ ብጽልኢ ናይ ኢትዮጵያውያን የሕዋትና ዝተላዕጠጠ መልሲ ትህቦ ዘለኻ

    • tafla

      Where did you see him expressing hatred towards Ethiopians as a people? If he distrusts successive Ethiopian governments actions towards Eritrea and wants to protect his country both from external forces from the N.E.W.S, would you call that hatred? He’s a nationalist with outmost honesty, balance and principle. Unlike some of the big names in this forum who are playing all kinds of games to dupe the gullible and those desperate for recognition as “intellectuals”, tes watch out so you don’t run away from a bad situation into the arms of a famous tehadso-man.

    • Hope

      Waa,
      kemzi khe alo di’u?
      To be insulted and dehuminzed in my house and for which I bled for?
      Abey zela defar eya bejkha?
      Semere Tesfay is ,by all standard, a” Super Hero and a Super man,a man who has lived by deeds.
      I say this coz I know him from head to toe,not from this weyane infested forum.
      Please ID yoursefl,first and formeost–then we can——-
      Again–Sayterut Abet,Saylikut wedet!!

  • hope

    Hmmm,you got me there bro/Sis—It sounds logical.
    Well,I guess we are all making U-Turns for good,which is a good sign and that is what we wanna to see–slowy rehabing and converging towards ONE common goal and destiny after exhausting all other ways,including,”My way is the High way” style/culture.
    Dr Saba’s rehab Clinic might be working,albeit,with high rate of relapses,where we need to work harder and extra hrs and shifts.
    Let it–be…I am liking the U-turns of the AT,Ali Salim; and guess what?The Truth will prevail and justice as well,hence,Eritrea and Eritreans will prevail.I see light at the end of the dark tunnel–Insha’Allah-God willing!!!!
    No need of criticizing the” welcome backs” and each other but ,rather,appreciate and admire them and each other.Psycholgy 101!
    Saleh Ghadi’s positive and constructive inputs and constructive criticism,SAAY’s home-coming with new energy and stamina—-back to his “Pre-Tiwgah Emmo” era with aggressive and with his double edged SWORD and fierce nationaliist rhetoric;pproaching towards closing the gap between Semere Tesfay- and his “alleged” Opponents”-,etc—all are good signs of ” Reconciliation”,albeit,we have a long way to go–but will get there—-as my name is Hope in its True Bibilical sense,as endorsed by SAAY with his verse form the Holy Kuran/Bible .BTW,Christian ketto Tesfa Aikortim…..

  • Semere Andom

    Hi Saleh and Saay:
    First Sal “aseyTinkani eko ata wedi:-)
    Abu Salah, am disappointed now, taking Helen to court? You sound like the Medrekh people, we need to take the PFDJ to court over the slaughter of Tigrayit not one person 🙂 I know the crazy dude in Facebook suggested it.
    An old real story: a friend told a mutual friend “gesse”, when we visited her after her surgery that almost killed her, the friend who loved Tigrayit and was trying to learn it, replied with confidence and of course joking “gaysam taaley”:-)
    Sem

  • Guet

    *Here at awate, the word “great” is generously thrown at an individual and is simply used to promote arrogance by mocking that individuals (with delicate brain) to assume his watch dog stance

    • Hope

      Let him say whatever he wants to say as he is entitled to his opinion
      and our business is to challenge him.I do not think he would be worse than the “Unionists”,if at all they exist.
      -He advoctaes the weyane sponsored groups.
      -What bothers me is his total “black out ” about the role of the external factors to our misery–that of the weyanes and their masters and exclusively poniting his fingers at the PFDJ/PIA,which is the renewed propaganda of the weyanes-
      -I do not see any balance at all and I have found it difficult to differentiate him from our real and perceived enemies and his weapon is “labelling us ” PFDJ” supporters.if we challenge him
      -Whenever we try to ” engage him” ,his rhetoric is about PFDJ but PFDJ
      -He tries to minimize or ignore the bigger role of the sanctions–and its writers and imposers
      -.He completely ignores the history of Eritrea and Eritreans from our enemies’ perspective.
      -Etc–
      Ermias,can you use your Psychic to diagnose Haile the Great and Dr Saba,as well?

      • Guet

        Hope,
        Haile is more than entitled here. Actually to borrow Sal’s term Haile is the “Awate’s RETARD”, everyone has to tolerate. The continous bullying, the non-stop moronic insults he throws at people he thinks are PFDJ, the none stop “I know it all” attitude and desire to lecture people smarter than him, you name it. Trust me, he has expired and trust me, debating him would be a waste of time. Tolerate him? yes. He is our retard.
        May be you missed how he tried to bully Ali S, by attacking him and his personal things. May be you missed hoe Jo shut him off las time, after which he remembers to throw in the fake “you are entaitled to your openino” in some of his nonesense comments, like the one above “dawit has my respect” kind of out of place line in the middle of his usual name calling and rediculous logics.
        Finally, may be youhaven read him for a while, otherwise he is too slippery to understand. Forget about his comments and stands a year ago, he almost always contradicts and forgets what he said in a previous comment. Lots of contradiction, lots of countering himself, just thinks for now, for the comment he is writing right now – his AMO? “simply trush PFDJ” who cares if he is making any sense.
        About his romance with weyanie? well, you said it all. You would not beleive what he was saying few months back

  • SM

    Nope,we will be here forever or until we get we want.Irrespective of the owners’ stand or motivation,Awate is ours and he belongs to us for ever and we will never allow our Awate and his SPIRIT to be hijacked on a day light….NEVER!
    We may make strategic withdrawals as needed but we will NEVER kneel down except when SHOOTING and PRAYING even if Hailat et al wish us to do so.

    • Guet

      If you ask me, awate.com transformed itself since its new look, and since Semere Tesfai’s piece, and it is apparent the owners are trying to change their ways. Now you can see how lively it is getting, and lots of people with sane mind are writing articles and commenting.
      It looks like awate.com got bored with the continous barking of haile the Great* and co, (supported with lots of Unionists and Ethiopians who are promoting Ethiopia’s interest) and were telling them, politely, they are going to do a U turn and want to engage all Eritreans
      That Haile individual never stops interpreting things in a creepy way, otherwise there are a wide vareity of people more now than few months back, when it was only him barking

  • Ali-S

    Aman,

    No need for exit my friend: you are not alone. I think you are the centre and we will all be converging to your position eventually.

  • AMAN

    Dear Awates :
    I can’t comprehend the whole Awate politics anymore. It has become so wide spectrum
    because some things look way behind and others are way ahead and forward
    making it hard to find the center where everyone should fall into.
    And so advanced for me to comprehend it and find the center
    of gravity of it as we and/or I have been doing for so long to create a moderate and
    all embracing big room for all of us.
    Sorry I have been still stuck in the SEARCHING process ! And searching for my spot too !!
    So I believe now that what I am trying to say is out of time and phased out and only belongs
    to yesterday but I am pushing it so hard.
    sorry for the misunderstanding I caused
    My Appologies to All Awate people.
    I MAKE MY EXIT.

  • Kokhob Selam

    she has done very good job..sure her sister Fiker Addis has enjoyed it I think. after all aren’t from two sister countries? Habesha is Habesha even if we divide it in to several nations. Ah!!! I dream to see democratic nations cooperative prosperous and advanced -Eritrea and Ethiopia.

    • Geremew

      u r right!

  • Saba

    Hi Ismail, i see you that you want to stick forever with your cyber opposition, no matter what happens. Here is a question that most members of the cyber opposition has avoided to answer: If your cyber opposition is weak, corrupt, rejected by the public, with undemocratic leadership, how do you think it will remove pfdj? Bi teamir or with weyane?

    • haile

      hey Saba,

      “If your cyber opposition is weak, corrupt, rejected by the public”

      Now, either bring your evidence or justify why is that:

      1- PFDJ meetings in diaspora are announced without location address

      2 – PFDJ diaspora meetings are disproportionately attended by elderly Eritreans

      3 – there far too many women high profile Eritreans in the opposition

      Good day

      • Saba

        Hi Haile, I wish you have tried to answer the question instead of deflecting it and come up with another pfdj excuse. The referendum is on your cyber opposition. Waiting if Ismail will try to answer the question.
        1. The number of people defecting from pfdj is not the same us the number of people joining to the “cyber opposition”, do you know why? And where are those people going?
        2. PFDJ weakness is not being translated into “cyber opposition” strength. Even when pfdj is in near coma or in life support, the cyber opposition will be where it is now.
        3. The majority is rejecting your cyber opposition. Having some big personalities in your cyber opposition is not going anywhere. As a starter, you can study why the public is not supporting it.
        4. If you want to revive your “cyber opposition”, you need to come up with a plan, democratic system and democratic leadership, Eritrea for Eritreans idea and bury the EPLF/ELF fight. Ismail is telling you there is no short cut. If you do that your cyber opposition will be the main opposition organization and there will be no need of a third way/party.
        Now if you try to reply this post with another pfdj crime/weakness, i will assume you do not have the focus. First you have to identify the PROBLEM(pfdj) and come up with a SOLUTION(reliable opposition organization). Explaining the problem is not a solution, it is part of identifying the problem.

        • Hope

          Thank you for relieving me Dottore.
          Please see Semere Tesfay’s extra strength spices/doses.

          • Saba

            Hope, i know you are working extra shift in the rehab clinic but you will be rewarded as the debate is moving to the search of the right opposition party. Be ware that there is high rate of relapse:)

        • Ali-S

          Saba,

          The PFDJ for some reason does not refer to the opposition as “teqawemti” in Tigrigna. The Tigrigna word they use is “tetsaba’eti”. From my little Tigrigna I would guess: teqawemti would translate as “opposition” and tetsaba’eti as “antagonists or opponents”. Teqawemti would refer to people who are against the PFDJ because they have a cause and a legitmate but controversial reason. Tetsaba’eti would refer to people who have no reason other than grudges against the PFDJ. Does that make sense in your dictionary?

          • Saleh Johar

            Ali, don’t forget their tetsaba’eti includes the whole world, the “opposition’ is simply a tiny part of PFDJ’s tetsaba’eti. I think they should coin a word for resistance, most of those you consider “opposition” are in fact in the resistances, myself included. Resistance to injustice, to wedini, to shefatu, and to skunis.

          • saay7

            Ali Salim:

            Forgive the intrusion. Standard Operating Procedure (SOP) in African politics is for the incumbent regime to lament the absence of “responsible opposition” in the country, all the more so to justify its power monopoly. I tease the supporters of Harbegna Weyanai a lot because a few of them are FB friends and their frequent lament (uttered with Oscar-worthy performance) is: “Poor Ethiopia! It has no responsible opposition!” This in a country with a population of 90 million.

            So, the Isaias regime’s* dismissal of the Eritrean opposition is par for the course. It is (a) one in a long series of their attempt to reduce Eritrea into an African basket case and (b) inability to rise over the Ghedli era mutual defamation (Amma Haradit, Medada, Xere Ghedli, etc.) Well, thank goodness for The Third Way: they will rise over all this silliness. Right?

            saay

          • Saba

            Hi Ali Salim,
            I use to hear, in different social events, phrases like “ziquaem inte alo idu haf yebil or higi yizareb” or “teqawumo alona”, for example in wedding ceremony in church, in Bayto adi or in announcements about inheritance. But the word “teqawemti” to signify as a political party evokes some negativity since we never had opposition party before. But i think still teqawemti is still the best word that corresponds to an opposition party that fight injustices. Definitely Tsabaeti are negative forces, “antagonists”. Anti-PFDJ can include teqawemti, tesabaeti and dictators. So it is up to us to clear the path of the right opposition that fights injustices.

        • haile

          Saba, (the numbers here don’t corrospond to yours)

          1 – PFDJ weakness is the goal of opposition movement, be it overt or covert. Since you admit to the weakness of the PFDJ then that means the opposition to it has strengthened. You, me and many others only agree on one thing as to “who” is opposition. That is we agree it to be someone who is not supporting PFDJ. Beyond that we have separate ways of defining its make up. You think it is someone else, I think it is you. Ditto.

          2 – The Sudan has upto 40 or more political parties (recently it was reported that they were allowed to operate in the country). In Eritrea you will have many too because there will be those reflecting various stripes. The important thing is that more and more people are opposing the PFDJ, practically relegating it to a psychotic that plays hide and seek in the diaspora. That is the success, especially considering that opposing the PFDJ was a taboo a mere just over a decade ago. Today supporting it openly is a taboo.

          3 – Every single opposition group has its own value, vision and plan. It would be illogical to put the cart before the horse when asking for a plan of an opposition party before the country has a constitution and its activities are registered.

          4 – You have no idea why many people don’t vocally oppose. Even when they see PFDJ’s dirty acts up close in the face. Nothing to do with good or bad opposition. PFDJ knows the reason, I know the reason, many in the opposition know the reason. It would serve a growth curve to investigate why. The cyber activity (if you call it cyber opposition) has done magnificent in completely pushing out PFDJ from relevance. Even here in the AT discussion, no one other than “dawit” (for which he has my respect) openly comes out and says he supports the regime. It is that bad…Cyber 10, PFDJ O 🙂 So cyber may not be bad after all, it has silenced the diabolical regime and its minions here in the diaspora as much as they do it to our people back home (Kudos to AT Assenna Asmarino … who are cyber and trashed down PFDJ)

          5 – If you are bereft of ideas to oppose the PFDJ, that doesn’t translate that every other opposition grouping that didn’t volunteer to take you by the hand and usher you is useless. HGDEF hamed DfaCh’EU yseti alo, and who is doing that 🙂

          • saay7

            Selamat Hailat:

            Thanks for the shoutout to AT. I was feeling a bit disheartened when YPFDJ selected Tesfa News as website of the year:)) Yemane Gebremeskel (who invented Tesfa News is the source for its exclusives) sent a tweet congratulating Tesfa News for a well-deserved victory. Paulos Misgenna, a clever Eritrean at FB (where else!) who just happens to be an awate alumni, called Yemane Gebremeskel’s tweet an example of a “selfie”: a self-taken picture.

            saay

          • Guet

            You pushed the government supporters from the awate forum, did you say (by implication)? are you insulting the awate.com or what? if any, the none existance of openly supporters in this forum (While millions of Ethiopians and unionists are free to roam ), could be taken as something else, or as a weakness (lots of Eritrean websites are filled with people who are standing alonf their government), and I am sure that is not the intention of the owners. I mean, it is so boring to see the same people listening to their own voices

          • Saba

            I am having technical problems to reply your post.

          • Saba

            Ok, it is working now.
            1. May be you could not listen to me before (because you might consider anyone who is not on your cyber opposition is covert pfdj supporter) but many times i have said that pfdj is a dictatorial system and that the public is leaving them. But where are they going? i left this question
            to you to figure it out but may be the concept of “silent majority” is not in your imagination. The number of people defecting from pfdj does not correspond to the number of new members of the cyber opposition because these people are flocking to and sinking in the “silent majority”

            2. Just being anti-pfdj should not be your goal, that is dangerous. Anti-PFDJ includes dictators, opportunistic groups, opposition groups that fight for justice. So if you support all these groups together you are supporting pfdj indirectly.

            3. I think you are confusing your activism with political organization. I give credit to your activism. But i am talking about the corrupt, undemocratic system of the political parties, my “cyber opposition'” refers to them, not to activists. The current political organizations are rejected by the
            public, they do not exist among the people and they exit mainly in the internet, hence the name “cyber”. I hope it is clear now:)
            4. The current opposition parties are cyber only, they do not have the interest of the country at heart and they are a hindrance to the birth of opposition parties that fight for injustices. So if you are fighting for justice and democracy, you should drop this cyber opposition(almost equal to dictators, motivated manily by eplf/elf fight) and contribute the birth of a new party for
            justice.
            5. Your cyber opposition is waiting for anything that topples pfdj, teamir or weyane-led, whatever (what an opportunistic) but believe me the people will never allow them. So we need to found a reliable party or coalition of parties that can be accepted by a “critical mass” if not pfdj will keep reigning for the lack of a credible one.

          • haile

            Hi Saba,

            Our differences seem to be on two critical factors:

            1 – You believe that the people leaving PFDJ are not joining the opposition because the latter is all those bad things you attribute to them in blanket.

            – I totally disagree. Taking up the role of an active opposition in the diaspora is highly complex. Besides, many people oppose the regime but have really need to be convinced i) that such is a political ideology they can be motivated by II) are able to commit the time, effort and resources III) They are prepared to cut their link with their family at home as long as the regime is there including the lose of their very right to be laid to rest. Many people find the task of settling down and restarting their life here daunting. Joining a political party is not high in their agenda. Work, home, family… are pressing matters in the early years of immigration (and always if people are haven’t been fortunate). Again another logical fallacy is that all those who stop supporting the Republican party don’t necessarily join its opposition or vise versa. There are those who lose hope, interest and simply walk away. So, your logic that x are leaving PFDJ but only 0.o1x are joining the opposition isn’t tenable. The reason to leave PFDJ may not be to join other political party.

            2 – That you say that one needs an opposition party of the type you hold up in order to have critical mass. Such case scenario is a plus but not common. People organized by common characteristics as KUNAMA, ERITREANS, AFAR, TIGRAYAN, OROMO…may have one representative and powerful group. The critical mass in national case like Eritrea, Libya, Egypt…are reached due to the worsening situation of the people that you don’t want to be discussed (hushed in favor of in fighting on hypothetical plans). Again, since a party can’t be effective without your support and you won’t support it without it being effective, it is a catch-22 trap. Critical mass will be reached with a ‘trigger factor’ that would bring things to ahead. The Lampedusa was a case in point, it not only showed how things like that can move events but also demonstrated the organizational capacity of those opposed to the regime. I have nothing against the old opposition, but if you think they have shortcomings it is for you to assist them. They’re doing what they know best, if all you guys do is sit afar and more the wiser, that just make you what?

            If you really want to help, convert your rehab center to treat those empty shells with nothing other than hate of the woyane. All hate must go somewhere, it worries me where the hate of these sick individuals go eventually after the fall of the regime!

          • Saba

            Hi Haile, i like this reply since you are starting to focus on the issues.
            1.
            By now we both agree that pfdj must go and PFDJ will be removed due to
            internal factors(forto2.0 or natural events) or external factors but
            then who will be replacing them? Another dictatorial system or a
            democratic party? And what will be the role of the opposition during the
            removal of the pfdj? Is that will be nationalistic and democratic?
            2.
            You said people are leaving pfdj and I said that it is not being
            translated into people supporting your cyber opposition(I am not saying
            in absolute number, I am talking in terms of political wave and the
            support is not even 0.1% of people leaving to pfdj). So how much pfdj
            gets weak is not giving a strength to your party. Pfdj is weak as the
            cyber opposition is weak.

            3. But why is that the people leaving
            the pfdj are not supporting your cyber opposition? You try to explain in
            terms of personal difficulty, fear and other factors. I do
            not expect that everybody will be politically active. Only a certain percentage
            of the population will be politically active. And those who are not politically
            active
            still contribute by carrying on the discourse at home, cafe house, etc.
            So we are talking in terms of political wave and I do not see that
            wave toward your cyber opposition. The main reason people are not
            supporting your cyber opposition is because it is not a democratic
            organization with a democratic plan, they do not see an alternative in your
            party.
            They see the same thing in your party what they saw in pfdj. People
            living under degh control were supporting EPLF, do you think that was
            easier than supporting your cyber opposition by immigrants in their
            comfort?

            4. Reaching a critical mass by itself might not be
            enough but you will be ready to catch the occasion when trigger events
            occur. If you do not have a democratic system, you will not be able to
            catch the occasion.
            5. For me weyane is not the main focus but if you
            use weyane to remove pfdj, that will be a problem since they will
            expect to you to be their puppet.
            5. pfdj are telling you to come
            with them and improve their pfdj. Your response to pfdj is my response
            to your cyber opposition and pfdj.
            6. So my rehab center is open for those who are misguided by pfdj and by your cyber opposition.

          • saay7

            Selamat Saba & Awatistas:

            I had a “huh?” moment when you asked Haile the Gr8 if “the concept of silent majority is not in your imagination.” Then I remembered: oh, yes, Saba is new to Awate forum. For the record, I can’t think of anyone who has popularized the term “silent majority” more than Haile. True, it was Dr. Bereket B Woldeab who asked the original question “To The Silent Majority: For How Long Can you Keep Your Silence” ( http://awate.com/to-the-silent-majority-for-how-long-can-you-keep-your-silence/), but it was Haile the Gr8 who spoke in great depth and detail as to why the people are silent.

            Haile has moved on because he has (yes, I know, life is not fair) information advantage from insiders. One of the most laughable phrases in the PFDJ National Charter is that the organization believes in Eritreans “freedom of information” but the facts are that few have detailed information of what is happening in Eritrea right now, and Haile is right up there. He doesn’t write about the abstract; he writes about the facts on the ground. And right now, he sees Eritreans at an intersection and on one corner of the block is the Isaias regime lining up people and employing firing squad on them, searching them, asking them for ID, robbing them of their possessions, their dignity, their honor, their liberty, their life. On the other opposing block is the Opposition sitting on folding chairs and taking notes and occasionally yelling “Stop!” On opposite corner are the Critics of the Opposition shaking their heads and marveling at the paralysis of the Opposition. He considers the moral equivalence you create between the criminality of the Isaias regime and the incompetence of the Opposition absurd. (How am I doing Haile?)

            A lot of the discussions and the differences in the way forward are anchored on one question that was posed by Emma: what is the nature of the regime lording over Eritrea? Are they well-meaning people in over their heads overwhelmed by the enormous challenges posed by enemy quarters? Are they a mafia cartel? If so, are they necessarily so because all legitimate means have been closed to them by the “enemy quarters”? Are they an ethnocracy? A monocracy? Authoritarians? Totalitarians? It is the different answers we are coming that question that is getting us to follow different schools of thought.

            Back to the silent majority. Way back during the Ethiopian occupation of Eritrea, an Eritrean who escaped the Ethiopian occupation could see, from a distance, the light of the freedom fighters inside his/her country. S/he goes there and: maybe s/he will join; be recruited; escorted out of the country; once outside of the country get help for moving/residence permit; be invited to be engaged. Ethiopia had nothing to offer to counter the offer of the refugee except more of the same things that cause him/her to escape.

            Now, compare: an Eritrean who escapes the clutches of the Isaias regime will see a dim (very dim) light of the opposition but only once outside the country. The opposition (freedom fighters/deleyti fitHi) are armored (they have a work permit, a residence permit, a bank account, kids at school, cars in the garage, chicken in the oven) but they have nothing to offer this refugee besides sympathies. Well, yes, they will help with his/her asylum paperwork. But that’s it: the refugee is completely on his/her own. In the meantime, he/she will be solicited by the agents of the regime: do whatever you have to do to get your paperwork, demonize us as much as you want (wink, wink) but once you have it, if you want to visit your family back home, if you want to send them money, if you want to be buried there, if you do not want to live in total isolation from your community and your church*, you have to kiss our ring. Write an apology letter, pay your 2% tax. It is a simple cost/benefit analysis for the refugee.

            EPDP as you know is the merger of the ELF-RC and EPLF-DP: a heart-warming case of people transcending the old ELF-EPLF divide. Now, if you go to their website (harnnet.org), you will see their appeal to help save Mohammed Ali Ibrahim, one of the leaders of EPDP (and a fine and honorable man) who was kidnapped by the Eritrean regime’s security apparatus from Sudan. Now, two questions follow: (a) with all due respect to EPDP, how can an organization which cannot save itself, fight for itself, protect itself position itself as capable of protecting and saving the Eritrean people? And (b) with all due respect to the critics of the opposition, what more can you expect from an organization than to sacrifice itself for the greater good? EPDP is perfectly aware that Sudan (particularly Eastern Sudan) is the playground of Eritrean security officers but it has a presence there to provide help to Eritrean refugees, sons/daughters of martyrs.

            So, in the end, the critics of the opposition have to humble themselves a bit; whatever your criticism of the Opposition, many of them are doing a lot more to alleviate the pain of Eritreans than you are. A LOT MORE. So a little humility is overdue. But that does not mean that we accept the failure of the Opposition–we must criticize them if we are to improve them.

            saay

        • Ismail

          Selamat Saba,

          Sorry for this late response. The reason I ignored your original comment was because it would have been redundant to answer you since the answer to your question was in the article itself. I am responding now only because you say above that you are waiting for my response in your response to Haile. . How do we remove PFDJ? We remove it the same way we removed Ethiopia and in the same way that many liberation movements against tyrannies have done it in the past.

          For more, please see my response to Saleh Younis,

          Thanks for your feedback

          Ismail (pointblank)

          • dine

            ”we remove it the same way we removed ethiopia”.i think u mean removed derg but ETHIOPIA is there SMARTER, MORE BEAUTIFUL AND STRONGER THAN EVER.

          • Abinet

            There are more than 90000 Eritrean refuges in Ethiopia . Most of them are well trained to use fire arms . Instead of removing the good for nothing dictator like they ” removed Ethiopia”,they are running like rats that see a cat . Are these the same people who ” removed Ethiopia?”
            GUREGNA

          • Hope

            I think what he meant is that we moved out the Ethiopian invadors–be it Dergue or Weyane.
            Cool down body–or stay away–Again,” Sayterut Abiet,Saylikut wedet—–
            Can you go and join the aiga froum or tigray online—or nazret.com and leave us alone?.
            We will remove the dictator and by that time–Weyanes will not have any puppet to keep us in No War,No Peace status—-and those 90K will come back and build Eritrea but unfortunately,you will lose some tukabo/aid from the corrupted UNHCR.

          • Abinet

            I can’t wait. But, my problem is once the dictator is gone , you will always find something to blame us for .
            I promise to leave you alone as long as you do not mention ethiopian in a negative way .when it comes to Eritrea it is all yours . It is non of my business . I hope you have noticed this not only from me but also from other Ethiopians as well .

      • Hope

        Good,that is what we want them to be—slowly rehabing–huh,provided that there is NO external interference,which seems to be the case,unfortunately.
        My confusion here is that we seem to be on the same page about having the same enemy and the same goal–but with different approaches and the BEST solution would be to come to a mid-way–to an intersection point where we can converge as ONE people and ONE Nation…
        Can we work towards that ,rather than playing the carte of ” My way is the High Way” style arguement and debate?

  • Semere Tesfai

    Selam SAAY, Ali-S, Ismail Ali and all:

    So many things to say, Al-Asef so little time – and Ismael Ali would agree.

    – The Eritrean opposition: It is not their existence that I’m against (they have every right to oppose the PFDJ regime) it is how they’re running their political business and what they stand-for, that I can’t stand. I demand from the opposition a pragmatic and workable political platform that would STOP THE CYCLE OF VIOLENCE and bring us peace, stability and harmony among our communities. My thing is, there is different way of solving our political differences out side our usual TESFIA (liquidation) doctrine.

    – I don’t want to be a part of a political party that is in essence THE OTHER SIDE OF PFDJ. We are going to deny them any political space; we are going to weed them out; we’re going to lynch them; they are the cancer of Eritrea; we are going to bring them to justice (opposition justice)…… type militant rhetoric is not going to get the opposition anywhere. Please remember: peace, stability and prosperity of Post-Isaias Eritrea (Isaias dead or alive, PFDJ or Non-PFDJ) is only possible if and only if we stay away from the WE ARE GOING TO GET THEM mentality; we are right they are wrong mentality, we represent the people and they don’t mentality……..with all our colors and stripes, it is a country and a government we should share equally.

    – I’ve said it before and let me repeat it one more time. The change that I want is a change that guarantee Isaias, his Generals, his minsters, all PFDJ operatives and their families – and – the Islamists, the ethnic warriors, the Ultra-Nationalists, the liberals, the conservatives …… and their families, the full right to live in the country they love with dignity, pride and peace – as long as they follow the rules of the state like everybody else. Or simply, the change I want is exactly the kind of change Ethiopia recently had – Azieb Mesfn (Meles Zenawi’s wife) and her child/ren living free in their own country in peace without fear of prosecution/persecution. Listen: most of us live in the West – please let’s be civilized opposition and advocate for the kind of change of government, laws, and policies that we are witnessing in the West. Is that too much to ask?

    Th Unionists: They are the other side (face) of the Islamists. Like the Islamists/Jihadists they will shine with our political mistakes and they will die when we avoid any political mistakes – all at the same time. Let me explain:

    – In the late 1980’s and early 1990’s, the two Tigreans on both sides of the Mereb-River (EPLF and TPLF) created the best coalition ever assembled between them – which had Western blessing. Due to that “mistake”, Eritrean politics was over-steered to the other extreme – and what we ended-up was POLITICAL ISLAM and the passion for ETHNIC POLITICS that we are witnessing today. On Ethiopian side, it radicalized the Anti-Eritrea and the “Anti-Tigrewoch Allience” sentiment of the Ethiopian extremists. To stay at the helm and govern, the Woyanes had to make a U turn and prove their Ethiopianess by removing their “PAWN OF ERITREA” stigma in no uncertain terms. They did. And the 1998 “Badme War” and the “we are going to teach Eritrea a lesson” was what we ended-up with. For It’s survival PFDJ/Eritrea steered its political wheel to the other extreme (Arab Region) and we saw the birth of the ERITREAN UNIONISTS.

    Therefore, alienation breeds radicalism; balancing our political platform is the only proven cure form the dangers of UNIONISTS and JIHADISTS. And the Eritrean opposition are no where near it. That’s why they didn’t earn my support. I hope I’m clear on that.

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Semere Tesfai,

      Let me engage you if you don’t mischaracterize my argument like what you did to my recent article. I want you to understand dismantling the system is not dismantling the PFDJ party. Dismantling the system means dismantling the apparatus of oppression and changing the structure of governance that allows us to function constitutionalism and rules of law, and further assert justice by giving equitable power sharing. PFDJ will exist if its members wanted it to exist and if they want it to change it is all their prerogative. We said it many times. They built a cancerous system of government and we will fight to change it and bring justice to their victim. It is not the opposition per se that brings the justice it is the Eritrean people who will demand for it and create a system and due process. The rest of your argument is your perception, and your perception will change only if you are willing to listen to the grievances of the social forces you are accusing them. Tell us how you address their grievances and don’t be dismissive.

      • Semere Tesfai

        Amannuel Hidrat

        You said: “I want you to understand dismantling the system is not dismantling the PFDJ party…..PFDJ will exist if its members wanted it to exist……”

        – Really? Aman, I don’t know if the Eritrean opposition and you, are on the same page on that.

        – You said: “They (The PFDJ) built a cancerous system of government and we will fight to change it and bring justice to their victims.” Two points here:

        1. Where in the Western world have you ever heard/seen such rhetoric. If we are trying to introduce Western Democracy in Eritrea, shouldn’t we be tolerant of others with differing views (like the Western countries). Have you heard in the West expressions like “cancerous system of government”, “we are going to bring justice to their (the ruling part’s) victims”….. type political campaign? Why don’t you just say, after we assume power, we are going to change all the laws, regulations and policies of PFDJ. And I’m ok with that.

        2. There is a difference between Eritrean Defense Forces and PFDJ. There is a difference between PFDJ and the Eritrean system of government. PFDJ is not the Eritrean Defense Forces. PFDJ is not the Eritrean system of government. The Eritrean bureaucrats are not PFDJ. PFDJ is a political party. The Eritrean system of government is run by hired government bureaucrats and ordinary workers who are implementing PFDJ policies. If you are not having a problem with the future existence of the PFDJ party, why are you having a problem with the Eritrean system of government that is run by government employees? If that is the case, all you’ve to do is change the policies, rules and regulation through the parliamentary channel and you are done. You don’t need to criminalize other peoples ideas (PFDJ ideas) and you don’t need to dismantle or criminalize government employes for following orders and doing their job.

        You said: “It is not the opposition per se that brings the justice it is the Eritrean people who will demand for it and create a system and due process.”

        How do you know the Eritrean people are going to demand justice? And how long would the “people’s justice” to complete its due process? Are the “PFDJ criminals” going to stay behind bars until you set-up the democratic system government and until the “people’s justice” is delivered? If you do that; aren’t they presumed criminals before they even see a judge/jury? How are you better then?

        Aman: People don’t govern; political paries do. But there is even bigger practical problem for you (if you really are ok with the future existence of PFDJ as you claim): Practical Problem. They got a gun, you don’t. They got fully functioning prison cells, you don’t. They got security and spy agents everywhere, you don’t. They got kangaroo courts; you don’t. They got the media to air their side of the story, you don’t……. Now tell me, how are you going to deliver your justice to your victims?

        Therefore, either you belong with me or with the civil war guys. Take your pick.

        • hope

          Bingo Semere Tesfay.By default,this response goes to Haile as well–both Hailes,in fact.

          • Hope

            They are looking for a short cut–like surgical/targeted —-and with outside help—

        • hope

          Specially considering the Bush,Jr Party style of devastating the whole USA and the whole world-.they should have been weeded out in their way of struggle–Emma et al’s way…–

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Merhaba Semere,

          First the system is the supra-structure and infra-structure of the state (talking politically). Since the system is built by a single party, the state and the government is the same in the current governance of our nation (I hope you know what comprises the state and and what comprise the government). So in our Eritrea the PFDJ party is the state and the government (whether the gov includes party members or none party members). I hope you could see the overlap of the state and the government.

          Now if we agree on the above reality..(a) we will separate the issue of “rights” and the issue of “justice” for purposes of comprehension and timing of addressing them (b) We will distinguish government and governance to avoid mixing an organ and a system. HInt – government is one of the fundamental organs used to build a state.

          Here comes my argument. Why do we need to dismantle the system? first the system is built or structured to be run by a single party (PFDJ), Second in such system the government is not accountable to the people nor is transparent how they run the government business. Third, since there is no constitution that governs the nation and its people, and since the state and the government in Eritrea is the party, the army is accountable to the party and the army stands ultimately to protect the party. Fourth, we have to disentangle the state from the government.That is how authoritarian regime built on. Look While the government is the body that runs the governing business directed by the party, the government and the party are one in essence and in practice.

          Back to the issue of “rights” and “justice”. As a principle what ever system we envisioned collectively we can’t disown them their party. period. What we need of them is the desire to be governed by the rule of law and hence will run compete with others on level field in the market place of ideas – the public sphere. PFDJ run the country for 23 years and they have committed enormous crimes on the public (don’t ask me what? you know it, including death). Justice will be observed for the victims of the regime. Think about it, when the victims comes to you and asked you for justice what will be your answer? Are you going to tell them the bye gone is bye gone, and what ever is done we will not touch the criminals? You see Semere there are many ways to do it when the state is formed and our constitution (not the 1997) enacted and the government start to function like a government and the court of justice is disentangled from the executive, there will be justice in the court of law.

          Last but not least, I am surprised when you listed what they have and the opposition don’t have, just to scare the public, I can only refer you to study how social revolution how they begin and ultimately overthrow authoritarian regimes. As my friend Ismail Omer had said it, “there is no shortcut in struggle” and there is no success without sacrifice especially against dictators. Even the so called peaceful resistance of South Africa had paid tremendous sacrifice right after the release of the iconic leader Mandela (over ten thousand). The struggle of South Africa dismantled the state machine of the apartheid and installed a democratic constitutional governance. When the anger of our people reached its climax it will break the chain of oppression.

          • Semere Tesfai

            Aman:

            – I’m not trying to defend the PFDJ regime. I’m not trying to justify the wrong doing of PFDJ. I’m looking for an orderly regime change that leads us towards reforming the government we have.

            – Eritrea is for all Eritreans in cluding the whole PFDJ establishment. No Eritrean is free, if a segment of Eritrean population is not free (or feeling free). No change is positive change (assuming we are looking for possitive change), if it is going to make us winners and loosers.

            – True we all want change but we only have two ways to achieve it. Civil War (violent change) or Reform (non-violent). I don’t support civil war (violent regime change) because it is an old idea that never worked since 1972.

            – Building democratic system is not a one-time achievement. Democratic system of government is achieved through continuous reform ove a span of mellenia. And to build a democratic system, we have to start somewhere. Why not from where we are?

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Haw Semere,
            If you don’t answer questions you are dismissive. Right Semere? I have asked you questions. When you can’t answer them, you divert the issue and say what ever comes in your mind. That is not a debate. Simply asking for “an orderly regime change” is not an answer. But how – with the kind of regime we have? Please define the regime we have? In all your debates you have never hinted as to what the nature of the regime is. Many times you say I don’t defend the regime without any reason. May be you have a conflicting view in your mind and thus trying to avoid from exposing yourself. Clear your position on how you read the regime, and then we will see how to tackle you or tackle the regime together. I don’t like your banal remark or statement.

    • Ali-S

      Semere,

      Your comments and response to Emma’s comment are right on the point. Smart and strong as always.

      But just one point on the side. The Unionist and the Jihadis are two extreme ends of the pole and they have nothing in common. Unlike the Unionists – an expression of the dreams of ethnic supremacists exclusive to one ethnic group in Eritrea – the Jihadis cannot exist outside a united Eritrea. The Jihadi is the militant form of the Islamist. The Islamist would be equivalent to the hypothetical example of a Pentecostal coming up with a political program to form and run government. The last that a Pentecostal or a Jehovah can be is an ethnic supremacist and Unionist. The same for the Islamist and the Jihadi. Religious extremism thrives by appealing to supra-national belonging not to sub-national allegiances.

      Jihadis may pose a threat to the stability of the nation but never to its integrity as a united nation. Threats to national unity that arise from the Islamists is only a byproduct of their inability to impose their will on all Eritreans. The primary target of the Unionists is national unity and threats to political stability coming from the unionists is only a byproduct of Eritreans insisting to remain united under an independent nation. The only ones who can abort the Islamists agenda of keeping Eritrea (as a political entity) united are ethnic supremacists (of all ethnic groups). The only ones who can abort the Unionists agenda are nationalists (including the Islamists).

      After learning so much from history, the Neo-Unionists are not dreaming of getting the whole of Eritrea back to Ethiopia. At best they are hoping to get the Tigrigna (as a territorially well defined ethnic entity) to Ethiopia (the reunification of the two that you referred to). I do not need to elaborate that the Unionists claim of historical and cultural ties with mama Ethiopia does not apply to any other ethnic group in Eritrea.

      I understand the need to reconcile by blaming both sides of the religious divide in Eritrea by saying “Ageb & Ageb”. But truth be told that Eritrea as a united nation owes its history and existence to the Islamists in Eritrean history. If it weren’t for Islamists like Ibrahim Sultan and Kebire, we would not be having this conversation today.

      I do not mean to go back to the old days or to sound offensive but we need to say things as they are because that is the spirit of the new U-Turn state.

      • Semere Tesfai

        Ali-S

        Love it. Thank you for your input. Very articulate and very crisp. Now to your point:

        – We Eritreans have unwritten rules that keep us in balance. And thse are the rules:
        1. Our politics must be secular and our faith must be private (at home and at our place of worship)
        2. Our relation/policy to our North should be as strong as our weakest link: our Ethnic Christians
        3. Our relation/policy to our South should be as strong as our weakest link: our Muslim Ethnics

        If we fail to balance our common held unwritten principle, we should expect instability in the Nation. And we all don’t want that. Please understand, Eritreans don’t care if there are more Muslims than Christians arguing inside the Eritrean pariament. Eritriand don’t give a damn, if there are more Christians than Muslims walking in the streets. What we Eritreans don’t like is, the Arabization or the Habeshaization of Eritrea. We are all Eritreans and we all want to remain just Eritreans. Remember:

        – Unionists exist and excel to create instability if and only if, they are successfuly able to plant ISLAMIC THREAT in the minds of the Eritrean Christian population.

        – Islamists/Jihadists could only justify the necessity of Political Islam, only and only if they successeded to convice Eritrean Muslims, their faith and their culture is being threatned by their Christian compatriots.

        And the existance of one will definitly bring the existence of the other. That’s why I don’t support either one of them to open political business in the name of their faith.

        • Ali-S

          Semere,

          Were you always like this or is this new found wisdom (:-)

          Absolutely right and I can’t agree more. For most of us (and that is where the nation’s constants should rest) neither the religious “supra-national” nor the Unionists & other ethnic supremacists’ “sub-national” should make sense but the “national”.

          I also agree on your argument that in spite of their dissimilarity and opposite tendency to unite Vs disunite, they can only exist as a combo. Each has to rationalize its existence by the threats posed by the other.

          An added dimension is that unlike ethnic supremacy in all other ethnic groups which has concerns from all other ethnic supremacists including non-Tigrigna ones, ethnic supremacy of the Unionists has a unifying conception of the rest which has strong religious connotations. This is to say that your comparison on the Unionists Vs Islamists, at least from the point of view of the unionists is not far from the truth.

          • SM

            And,if I may add,didn’t we overcome all the above challenges during our Armed Struggle,for good?And why can’t we,now when we have NO major issues except convincing both parties to be and to do what they are supposed to be, and to do what they are supposed to do….by a binding Constitution,for which we are debating and fighting for…????
            Keep it upon brothers…Love it and love U as well.
            God bless U all.

          • hope

            Ali,
            That is Eritreansim at its BEST besides the Ghedli experience—–But aren’t you the same so?
            At least the brother and son of those “brutally” and “mercilessly” Intelligent fathers,Moms,brothers and sisters.
            Take over and enhe meda,enhe feres,Bro Hussein Younis.

        • Hope

          Thank God that we have a LIVING history of harmony and we have to work hard to keep it alive and stay VIGILANT form those intruders.

      • tafla

        Ali,

        “I understand the need to reconcile by blaming both sides of the religious divide in Eritrea by saying “Ageb & Ageb”. But truth be told that Eritrea as a united nation owes its history and existence to the Islamists in Eritrean history. If it weren’t for Islamists like Ibrahim Sultan and Kebire, we would not be having this conversation today.”

        This is an old tired argument. The leaders you mention were acting out of self-interest, because they believed that muslims had majority status or would attain majority status in the future. That’s why many muslim intellectuals distrust the census and are obsessed with knowing the exact numbers of religious affilation, many still believe muslims constitute 75% of the population and if that’s not true, they’ll just turn to the fact that 75% of Eritrea’s landmass is inhabited by muslims and therefore deserve more power.

        You forget that in the eyes of many Islamists in Eritrea, christian is equal to one ethnic group. If Islamists are supra-national as you claim, then I don’t see any difference between them and neo-unionist aspirations. One wants to drag us to embrace our Afro-arab identity and the other our abyssinian. It would be more honest if they advocated for a partition instead of trying to look as if they are advocating for Eritrean national interests. It’s understandable that the religious minority in the highlands feel extra uncomfortable with neo-unionists and vice versa in the lowlands with islamists.

    • Yodita

      Semere Tesfai,

      Isaias and his cohorts and the pfdj structure (basically
      the same methodology practiced in Meda for 30 years, i.e. based on fear and
      control and harsh punishment) is bleeding the nation. You preach, in the name of western democracy,
      tolerance and allowing these culprits to go scot free in future Eritrea and
      have the same rights and privileges as their victims (some of whom are long
      dead or ill and dying, rotting in numerous jails without a day in court).

      When you put the culpability of Isaias and some of
      his closest accomplices at an equal level to that of Azieb Mesfin of Ethiopa, you
      blow my mind. Either you know of crimes
      committed by this woman that can be equated to that of IA that has escaped my
      attention much as I believe I keep track or your sense of assessment, your
      judgement is faulty (may even be purposeful and opportunistic)! Isaias’ has infinite ways and infinite
      approaches to situations that affect his absolute power – we all agree on
      this.

      If we go your way, we will have potential Isaiases
      rearing their heads and causing us to bleed like we do now, knowing that at the
      end of the day, nothing will happen to them.
      They will have the same rights and privileges equal to any and
      everybody.

      Mahatma Ghandi, Nelson Mandela and Marin Luther King
      jr. are our brightest stars whose deeds will guide humanity towards its highest
      nature in this cosmic journey. We can
      never underestimate the power of pardon and compassion in healing. In all these cases, certain wrong and evil
      ways had to be replaced by the opposite: righteous and just. Besides, balance sheets were drawn in order
      to record in bold letters the wrong deeds so that there would be no repeat of
      the same crimes.

      No meaningless cruelty and revenge, but their day in
      court is an absolute must for healing and reconciliation purposes. Sorry for me, you have no credibility!

    • Hope

      Good points Semere.I wish the AT allows us/you to re-publish your article about this issue again so that a lot of people will debate more.
      Here is my dilemma:Your arguements and your approach and that of Haile—and some other debators here–Emma and Johar included are exactly the opposite.
      Here is how I categorize the struggle/debate for change:
      1)Reformists–PIA and PFDJ included(incremental way, to use your terminology–The Camp of Semere,Ali Salim,Dawit)
      2)Midway supporters –kind of vague as it is similar to #1–The camp of Dr Saba et al
      a)with PIA and its PFDJ included
      b)with out PIA,but PFDJ included-SAAY et al
      3)NO PIA and PFDJ–by completely weeding out PIA and PFDJ(Emma,Johar,Haile et al)
      4)Miscellenous–?Unionists,some Opposition(change with the help of outside help)
      Can you help me how to reconcile those seemingly unreconcilable groups and approaches?
      I mean your point is great but without an official and mutually agreed upon National Reconcilaition,how can you reconcile those extremly opposite—entities?
      Especially taking into consideration the stand of the Ruling Party,it seems almost impossible.Your analogy with that of Ethiopia is far from a reality as you are comparing totally incomparable systems and conditions.
      I joined the debate on this topic of “National Reconciliation” hosted by Naz Radio,which included an EPDP Rep,and two Independnet personalities,one from the new Medrekh and our famous Mr Bohashim.
      They could not come up with constructive conclusion and consensus due to some legitimate factors and concerns.
      I am afraid that we are debating for the sake of debating and we have to back up our ‘positive arguements” with practical and realistic approaches.
      How,when and under what condition?The same applies to the others–Emma,Johar,SAAY,Haile, Saba,ali Salim–etc–
      In my opinion,these are the topics we have to debate on and tackle—

    • Semere Andom

      Moksi:
      You really have a soft heart for the criminal PFDJ. Let me address your points by referring to them in a numbered form and I will avoid the bullet form for change 🙂
      1: Sah kelamek
      2 &3: The onus is on PFDJ and not on the opposition. How hard is this to fathom? Come on SemereAb! You know and they know what PFDJ must do if they want this. I am not against it, this is sure way to avoid civil war. But there is price to be paid by the PFDJ and the list of people you mentioned. Netsa misaH yelon as Sal would say 🙂

      Comparing Melese Zenawi’s case with the lawless DIA. The first transformed with courage to a statesman, the later whose skin you want to save at the expense of those who he has vanished, has regressed. If Azieb Mesfin walks in freedom, she and her husband are reaping their investment. I do not see DIA and his wife doing that and you cannot be that optimistic for them to reap things they have not sown. Come on now! Will you temper your hate and fear of your cousins in the south?
      For your dream to happen and it is the dream of every sane Eritrean, the PFDJ needs to get its act together sooner than later, why are you lecturing the opposition, which is in no position to make that happen? If it is too late and the bottled up anger boils and DIA and his wife face the fate of Mussolini, you cannot really blame the opposition, it will be a bad precedent but the blame is squarely on the shoulders of the dictator, not the opposition, nor should the people shoulder the blame. As to a political space for PFDJ in the peaceful democratic, devoid of civil war Eritrea this is like asking post Hitler Germany not to ban the Nazi party. The political program of PFDJ is rape, torture, tarnishing our history, rounding up Eritrean in their country by DeMHit, arrogance and discrimination. I find it disturbing for a former tegadalai advocating for the participation of PFDJ in the political space, without requiring any changes from them. They can keep the name PFDJ as a fetish, but they cannot keep their program, they can roam freely if they do the right thing at the right time, which was 23 years ago, today is also fine, but their programs cannot roam freely in free Eritrea. WogaE lek?

      Not giving the vicious cycle of violence in the person of revenge is wise and prudent politics, but allowing PFDJ, our version of Nazi a political space is irresponsible and especially from someone who fought for everything that PFDJ stands for.
      Thanks
      Sem

    • Semere Andom

      Moksi:
      You really have a soft heart for the criminal PFDJ. Let me address your points by referring to them in a numbered form and I will avoid the bullet form for change 🙂
      1: Sah kelamek
      2 &3: The onus is on PFDJ and not on the opposition. How hard is this to fathom? Come on SemereAb! You know and they know what PFDJ must do if they want this. I am not against it, this is sure way to avoid civil war. But there is price to be paid by the PFDJ and the list of people you mentioned. Netsa misaH yelon as Sal would say 🙂
      Comparing Melese Zenawi’s case with the lawless DIA? The first transformed with courage to a statesman, the later whose skin you want to save at the expense of those who he has vanished, has regressed. If Azieb Mesfin walks in freedom, she and her husband are reaping their investments. I do not see DIA and his wife doing that and you cannot be that optimistic for them to reap things they have not sown. Come on now! Will you temper your hate and fear of your cousins in the south?

      For your dream to happen and it is the dream of every sane Eritrean, the PFDJ needs to get its act together sooner than later, why are you lecturing the opposition, which is in no position to make that happen? If it is too late and the bottled up anger boils and DIA and his wife face the fate of Mussolini, you cannot really blame the opposition, it will be a bad precedent but the blame is squarely on the shoulders of the dictator, not the opposition, nor should the people shoulder the blame. As to a political space for PFDJ in the peaceful democratic, devoid of civil war Eritrea, this is like asking post Hitler Germany not to ban the Nazi party. The political program of PFDJ is rape, torture, tarnishing our history, rounding citizens by employing DeMHIT, arrogance and discrimination. I find it disturbing for a former tegadalai advocating for the participation of PFDJ in the political space, without requiring any changes from them. They can keep the PFDJ name as a fetish, but they cannot keep their program. They can freely roam if they act on the right time, which was 23 years ago , today is also fine, but the PFDJ political program cannot roam freely in free Eritrea. WogaE lek?

      Not gvining the vicious cycle of violence in the person of revenge is wise and prudent politics, but allowing PFDJ, our version of Nazi in the poltical space is irresponsible and especially when it comes from someone who fought for everything that PFDJ stands for.

      Thanks
      Sem

  • said

    Thank you Ismail for well-written article, words have power, at a time that could shake a government,
    shame the mighty, or in power the powerless. And that words could empower the majority oppressed Eritreans As always your written and reflections are as thoughtful, and thought indeed with clarity and deep wisdom,there always be conflict between those who want the Eritrea as nation to embrace the modern world which is pluralist,– politically democratic , socially and economically – and those who instead want to keep DIA gang of racketeers “the Asmara junta” statuesque politics of exclusivity and incompetent not elected government. That held the crucial levers of power at the expense of the vast majority, practising politics of “divide and rule”. This is clear battle. Hopefully Eritrea will be taken the most hopeful direction for regime change. DIA have no deep foundation and legitimacy. Within Eritrean army and larger society at large , when the people will demand their god giving right, they will rise, whose power was will evaporate so swiftly .The DIA regime in all cases is glorified and its opponents demonised, so the picture of events presented to the public was often close to fantasy than realty. Propagated by the Eritrean Ministry of Truth and its franchises across its
    readily obedient diaspora. In a sane. Presenting false lies and self-inflicted problem. The realty is Eritrean knows the weakness and unpopularity of the government. is not solely will based in the strength of the opposition that will change the regime, many an foreseeing factors will come together in due time .Great Leap Forward, we all must realize that the
    future of Eritrean people is not going to depend upon the wills of Asmara dictator regime were drawing up for future for present generations , but on whether there was going to be a Eritrea worth living in the near future or for that matter the year 2025.How collectively we come together as oppressed Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed, is up to us, as
    that our entire future now depends on enabling the masses and spicily the young people to make better informed decisions than their parents and must be better be wiser than their parents. In last two decades PFDJ regime totally
    failed to develop democratic system and failed to develop modern and a sustainable economy, economically Eritrea is in dire situation in every sense economical index, Eritrea is for all practical purposes broke and poor nation, we’re in such a perilous state and in dire economic mess. Eritreans face basic shortage and getting much grimmer by day, than the one they are already familiar with. We’re exploiting and depleting whatever left of the natural resources, not enough water, lack of energy sources, lack of essential basic food, at a rate such that most of these basic resources will
    get very seriously depleted within very short decades. As Eritrean collectively politically and economically, we must work together united for much higher purpose, If we will not master our problems in short time will not have a happy future. The dire consequences are so intolerable that every means available and anything possible should be done to avert political situation and economic situation. If we learn from the past and present that we all have witnessed and traced, our future may be brighter than the present. One learn from US the abolition of salve, one main reason that the slaves were eventually freed was the Constitution ‘Constitution kept calling American back to all men are created equal and they have
    inalienable rights’, it was Abraham Lincoln, the very first Republican, who took this on as a major cause and a lot of it was based on a love in his heart that comes from God. And we learn also from, Percy Shelley, who penned these
    words of outrage in the aftermath of the 1819 Peterloo Massacre when cavalry charged into a Manchester crowd that was demanding democracy, killing 15 and wounding hundreds:

    “Rise like Lions after slumber

    In unvanquishable number—

    Shake your chains to earth like dew

    Which in sleep had fallen on you—

    Ye are many—they are few”

    Good night sweet poet. This harp shall ever praise thee.

    Without a doubt the average Eritrean embraced the Eritrean cause as dearly as his/her cause celebre identifying
    strongly with it and staunchly holding on into the point of considering it an integral and inseparable self, private and an endearing personal matter closest to one’s heart and soul. “One is responsible to life: It is the small
    beacon in that terrifying darkness from which we come and to which we shall return. One must negotiate this passage as nobly as possible, for the sake of those who are coming after us.”– James Baldwin, “The Fire Next Time”

    The country is deeply polarized and not equally divided between pro-Asmara Junta regime and nor pro- Eritrean opposition, the majority is silent on the side way, but that could not be successfully disregarded or marginalised. The opposition main problem, they have not in past years have reached the masses and somehow there is the absence of the right message —a message of inclusive and based on a broad shared agenda, an unifying vision of the future.” they have not yet translated their hope and aspirations in practical terms — for an inclusive Eritrea and the need for instruments for change, pessimistic and negative Eritrean thrive in try to kill Eritrean opposition in its crib, before it learns to walk. True, the Eritrean oppositions failed to deploy the right strategies and muster the effective capabilities and short of financial means, they are not to blame .

    • Ismail

      Said…. Thanks for the feedback and for your insightful remarks…..

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Dearest Papi,

    In responding to Younis Hossien (Ali Salim), you have said ” no personality after him have an iron clad control on the Eritrean”. Are you sure about that? You seem confident on your statement. Do you think without building a system with an entrenched institutions went into a full blown dictatorship? Papi Hisebulu de’a! Political power doesn’t stand only by an individual. Off course he is the architect but not without followers and enablers.

    Hawki,
    Amanuel Hidrat

    • Papillonn

      Dearest Aman,

      I have no doubt about it. Twenty plus years is way too long to be re-lived under a different tyranny. The Eritrean people will have been tested long enough to be pushed and pulled around ad infinitum should one gets inflicted by the intoxicating effect of power. One thing we should bear in mind is that, the thirty years glorious struggle was not only a struggle for independence but it was decades of political awareness and maturity as well. Of course, YG the high priest and others take it for an anathema but if anything the experience have enlightened the people to clearly understand the difference between freedom and liberty. Sure enough, one can beg to differ for the very fact that Isaias seems to have a free ride on the supposed enlightened and time-tested people, the reason to that not only has its own “justification” but it has a life of its own as well where it is pretty much the history of Eritrea under Isaias the tyrant.

      Haft’kha.

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Sis Papi,

        Didn’t we go through tyranny of colonialism before the tyranny of our own? Tyranny what ever its color or its mold is, it is tyranny for me and off course should be for you too. Just tell me the criteria that infer the shift of understanding of our public towards the system and its institutions? what I see is clearly a misleading of understanding a system that gave rise to a dictator. Before Isaayas becomes a dictator he built the institution that protected him. Please read and re-read Aklilu’s article “the birth of the despot”. He dated it back to 1976. According Aklilu’s dating, it took them 25 years (1976-2001) to reach to its current stage. Please don’t confuse the public how to read and distinguish the “system” with the “individual” at the helm. He can’t live without the system and its institutions.

        hawki,
        Amanuel H.

        • Papillonn

          Dearest Aman,

          The colonial experience was the raison de’tre for launching a protracted struggle for independence where tyranny much more pronounced in Isaias’ Eritrea as Isaias is a prototypical of a tyrant. The Italians, the Emperor and the Dergue were first and foremost foreign forces where the tyrannical description is way down on the list. To be more precise, during the colonial era, the kernel of the political demand was not the rule of law, democracy or multiparty system, rather, it was self determination nothing more nothing less. But again, the demand of contemporary Eritrea is rule of law, constitutional democracy borne out of a matured political milieu as such, there will not be any room for a power monger entity once the tyrant in Eritrea is uprooted in its entirety.

          Haft’kha.

    • Hope

      Agreed Emma.That is what we are lacking—Institutions!Constitutional Governance,to say it in ONE word.

  • Hayat Adem

    …ሕጂ ከዓ በተረኣ ኣሜሪካ ናይ ወያነ ከዳሚት ትኸውን’ላ ማለት’ዩ!

    • Ermias

      ..ሕጂ ኻኣ ወያነ ብግዴኣ ናይ ኣሜሪካ ከዳሚት ትኸውን ኣላ ማለት’ዩ!

      Sorry to break the bad news for you Hayat but I suspect you will hear a lot about the linguistics of your comment above.

      • haile

        Selamat Ermi,

        Your observation is interesting. We need to be careful not to associate with the “extreme” forms of hate instruments that the regime propagates day in day out (through its foot solders of course) as racism, Islamophobia. and what have you. I had an uncle who left to Tigray back in the days as a teacher, with his wife all from Eritrea. He lived long and productive life in Tigray, had many children (who always traveled to Asmara to visit us) and he was fortunate enough to educate all of them and most are in the diaspora and some in Eritrea. Some of my cousins from this uncle are in the opposition and some regime supporters. What is common is that they speak Tigrigna with a Tigray accent for a highland Eritrean (kebessa) listener. Apart from the accent, Tigrigna that is spoken in Tigray is also rich in original vocabularies. Many priests in the orthodox church do benefit greatly from this natural expansion in variation (may be Semere Habtemariam can explain more here).

        What is disgusting, repulsive and highly objectionable form of racial attack that the regime supporters engage in is that they use such things as Language which is an inseparable form of human identity that traces back to where each person has associated in the earliest times of their life. Those Eritreans who went to Adiss Ababa learned Amharic and we can tell the accent when they use Tigrinya, those who went to the Sudan or other Arabic speaking places have their unique accented Tigrinya too. However, the regime and its supporters have been totally humiliated and defeated by a Tigrayan originated organization the EPRDF/TPLF. They have lost control of basic human decency to go for such repugnant level of attacking someone in the demography of their linguistic expressions. Such is an attack on Tigray, its people and its identity. Woyane doesn’t own the Tigrinya spoken in Tigray. So, it may be best that all NORMAL Eritreans back off from this kind of extreme form of racist interpretation. If Hayat or any one tell you they are Eritrean, we better work with that. What do you have from me other than my word? This is discussions held in good faith on declared personal details. It is better to resist the thinking that comes from a PFDJ damaged brains that has made all this mess in the first place.

        Regards

        • Ermias

          Hailat, I know of many Eritreans who would say what Hayat said exactly the way she said it. A priest I know, from Quahain, would say it exactly that way. But hey I have heard PFDJites saying ‘ezom tika dob’ to Quahain, Smejana, etc peoples referring to them as second class citizens. Well, I agree it is a slippery slope and my intention was actually to put a defense for Hayat before they even started.

          What you said has been my whole premise in my last few comments.
          We need to pick our battles wisely, at the present and in the future. That is all I am saying when it comes to Ethiopia.

          • Guest

            Ermi : you may be the wisest here . I like ur outlook . A commentator once said the word “arhiwo” — open — was agamena where as kifeto is Eritrean . Then I happen to be in my village on the plains of Xilma, and I head my cousin use “arhiwo” .

      • Hope

        Ermi,
        Are you conveniently forfeiting the well documented history/ facts?
        Hailat,eventhough I promised my self NOT “To talk to you until I know you”,here is the FACT about Hate:
        Unless you are NOT familiar with the Eritrean culture and mind set,Eritreans do NOT hate any one,including their bloodiest enemies–
        The only reason /time Eritreans will hate people is/will be,when Enough is ENOUGH—-as human beings only.

        • haile

          Hope,

          Don’t promise anything, you won’t prove anything.

          The hate part is probably not clear to you. I had similar problems and struggled to understand it because that charge is consistently made against us. The trick is to try to switch places with the recipient in your mind and as much us you can try to make sense of it from that perspective. It is amazing that you fall to that Eritreans are this or Eritreans are that clap trap. What evidence do you have that shows you are capable of detaching your self from that kind of negative emotion towards others? There are people who spew hatrade and you’re betting on a claim that NO ERITREAN is hates? And how do you know that? I didn’t even said all Eritreans, I said regime supporters. Yeah the people who danced during Lampedusa. Give me a break, it is OK to state what you think personally but it is so arrogant that to claim NO ERITREAN is this or that. Remember the famous quote “Eritreans only kneel down to shoot or pray” and who is kneeling now? (Sorry Sal bro.) Can you just think we are just people like any other, gosh you might even not be bothering as to how third parties would judge it. Go and search social media Eritreans are more than capable of (in fact that is what they do most) of hateful exchanges. Against each other, against Tigrayans and some times Ethiopians in general. But that is only a section of the 6million people and for a claim like yours I need to take national survey.

          • Guet

            Are we supposed to accept your alligation of regime supporters as a fact, while Homes generalization as flowed?

          • Guet

            Can we safely assume then regime supporter side of your cousins (those you told us who grew up in Tigray) are rotten racists and bad mouth the Tigrayans, you know, because they are regime supporters?

    • SM

      Mom,/Miss,
      Do you need a crush course in world/US-Eritrean history?
      No thanks,we do NOT need any self-appointed kedmti either.

  • Ermias

    What a smart guy you are Aman. I am indeed on woyanes payroll. I get paid this Friday and I will post my pay stub here for you to see. I am rich.

  • Hope

    In the same boat?I beg your pardon?.Please clarify.
    I thought you were my favorite Princess due to your civility, kindness truthfullness and honesty.Are you exposing him publically?

    • Kim Hanna

      Dear Hope,
      First, Princess does not fit me, thank you.
      Second, I am not exposing anything. I read posts from several individuals. One of them happens to be Ermias’s. On his recent post as soon as I read ” African super power ” referring to Ethiopia, I was distressed. It only provides some people with ill will to pile on. To my knowledge no Ethiopian has refereed to her as such.
      In any case, I am not exposing anything other than my poor attempt to ask him to calibrate his terms and messages to avoid my becoming collateral damage.
      That is all it was.
      K.H

  • Ermias

    KH, how old are you? The first time I set foot in enteto was 1989 and that’s when I realized your country’s potential. Anyway, if you make a mockery of the suffering of the poor Eritrean people, I will call you out with no regards to your nationality. That’s when I was getting irritated by the likes of you making fun of the lampedusa victims. I never undermined your country but I despise people like you because you think it’s funny when Eritreans suffer. On an individual level, you or anyone is not better than any average Eritrean. There, I am not gonna let you question my pride to be Eritrean. Eat this up and come back, I will give you more.

    • Hope

      Ok Ermi hawey,
      I apologize and I take it back.
      Telling the truth in politics may not be attractive at times.

    • SM

      Cool down ,man!

  • Hope

    It looks like he is making a U-Turn(towards South though).

  • AMAN

    correction please !
    ===============
    There is no Ethiophbia
    but
    only Woyophobia in Eritrea !

  • AMAN

    Awate folks
    Do you also know that how hard the US is fighting on behalf of Ethiopian woyane
    against the Eritrean people……..All the county, city and all the libraries are doing
    so much to cut of the rights of Eritreans from legally using their rights in the Libraries
    and social medias after they learned their birth places are in Eritrea and if their self
    reliant proud people who enjoy the freedom Eritrean society and their country of origin provided them in contrast to some their citizens here in the US . All what they
    want you and expect from you is to be a dependent,failed, dysfunctional citizen
    to fall at the mercy of their churches and humanitarian aid providing agencies.
    And they told the renters and employers to screw up your housing and employement
    jobs if you try to be independent and self confident and satisfied Eritrean citizen.
    So that means they subtly exercise illegal actions that contravene the state and
    federal constituional laws.

  • Dawit

    Medication for Ethiophobs 😉 If you can’t beat them, crush them

    • Ali-Salim

      Dawit,

      I am having the tendency to first look at your latest work to have an idea of what the comments are about the I can go ahead a respond trusting your excellent summaries. Bless you!

  • Abinet

    You did not get it . You are the seytan here .

    • dawit

      Abinet, I can teach you your language, for free! SM told you ‘siterut abet silkut wedet’, you were confused if it is Tigrigna or amarigna. Then you added to what SM description ‘yeseitan gorebet’. By what logic that apply to Eritrea! Poor Abinet. Don’t try amarigna, stick to you English. ‘yeaf welemta bekibe aytashim’

  • saay7

    Dine:

    I love Harbegna Weyane (the guerrilla movement). Not the government:) I am not an Ethiophobe at all (that was tongue in cheek); I am an Ethio-realist.

    saay

    • dine

      saay
      one more question, isn’t Harbegna Weyane (the former guerrilla movement) the present day Ethiopia gov or big part of the gov or part of the gov ?

      • saay7

        No problem Dine.

        Harbegna Weyane was the world’s 2nd most impressive guerrilla movement. The Weyane Government is the world’s most commonplace: authoritarian (only political party in the State of Tigray), power-monopolistic (EPRDF = the sum total of one party Kilils), quick to jump to or escalate war* (“egna tewer’renal” said the late PM to his parliament, describing the “clear and present danger” posed by the ragtag Somalis Islamic Court), unprincipled (one of three African “coalition of the willing” members in US war on Iraq… ) I could go on:))

        saay

        * I wonder if people know that it was Weyane which unilaterally (and without explanation) cancelled in 1997 the “Friendship and Cooperation Agreement” it signed with the EPLF in 1993.

        • dine

          saay
          but, EEBC proved it right that (”egna tewer’renal”) in regrades to somalis Islamic court let me quote the late PM MELES ” they (the Islamic court) declared jihad on ethiopia in front of the international media not only once or twice but so many times” which they did before even control Mogadishu.

        • Abinet

          Saay
          What agreement are you talking about?
          Eritrea yegilachin Ethiopia yegarachin ” we didn’t like that one . You know what it got us into. I hope in the future we will have a better and long lasting agreement that serve both people.
          Regards

          • saay7

            Abinet:

            My bad. I was having multiple conversations. and one of them was with one of our misguided citizens who thinks that the 1998 Badme War was caused entirely by PFDJ. And I was trying to show a sequence of events in 1997 that were escalating the fight and one of the biggest was the Ethiopian government abrogating the “Friendship and Cooperation Agreement” it signed with the EPLF in 1993. The F&C also included mutual defense pact.

            saay

          • Abinet

            Saay
            I know you are busy tonight . You are wardiya on duty . Thanks for the info. I’m with you regarding the unionists. In my opinion they are dead wrong.
            Regards

        • Hope

          OOOH,here we go again, the Saleh Younis of 1998-2000,who silenced literally any and all the Ethiopian Zeraf Akakis.
          Welcome back big Bro…

          • Ali-S

            Hope,

            I am also very impressed and relieved that the guru is back in action.

          • Hope

            You may want to give him a hand though as I see some similarity between the two brains–

        • Ali-S

          SAAY,

          I agree. But was the first sentence really necessary? It would make sense if you mentioned it in combination of the college where the “impressive guerrilla” graduated and the assembly line of “impressive”. For all Eritreans did for them Weyenti should have erected a statue for each Eritrean rather than biting them.

          • Hope

            I guess he is trying to be a little bit “Diplomatic”.
            Ali,
            I hope some people in the South understand your point…..
            Very,very true—-” For all what the Eritreans did for them,Weyenti (all Ethiopians included)should have erected a statue for each Eritrean rather than biting them”.
            But,never mind,time will come—–

        • Abrham

          Yes Woyane was among the most impressive guerrilla movement that can fight heroic fight but also can predict Eritrea fate after gaining independence having your world’s 1st most notorious gang movement shielding in a right cause of independent Eritrea. your mighty Shaebia underestimate woyane like you and now Eritrea is in the verge of claps.Your articulation is impressive but not rational when you look towards south. “Friendship and cooperation agreement” thing we in Ethiopia now it, one thing that you do not have clue or by pass it deliberately is our soldiers were in Eritrea ready to fight Yemen when your ganen invade the Hanish islands as per the agreement. But after noticing the lion of Nakfa will not stop roaring at each and every one what would you expect? follow his foot steps? for those claiming for erection of status, We have more status to reclaim too from you.

  • Ermias

    There is one point that so many brilliant people as in Ali S., SAAY, Ismail, Saba, etc. are missing terribly. Whether we like it or not, Ethiopia is now an African super power that we must reckon with. They are capable of doing anything they want to do with or against Eritreans. So the best option we have is not to label people who recognize this fact as neo-andinets or unionists or other choice phrases and terms. Instead, we need to have a strong negotiating power of bilateral relations and try to do as much in our terms as possible. They will always be there – in good days, bad days, and ugly days. There is no two ways about that. Aversion is not the way, negotiation is the way. I hate to deliver this bad news to you all but no matter how well Eritreans get organized abroad (even inside), there is no Eritrean force, present or future, that can defeat PFDJ. Yes, I am saying that if you realize the existential nature of the problem, you must put Ethiopia in the picture. How much depends on how strongly we negotiate with them. Please put me with the defeatists column. Thank you!

    • saay7

      Ermias:

      If somebody wants to recognize Ethiopia as a superpower, that does not make him/her neo-andnet or unionist. What makes one a neo-andnet is when one tells us that (a) Eritreans of the 1940s-1980s had absolutely NO reason, no rationale, no legal, no moral, no political basis to resist Ethiopian subjugation of Eritrea and, (b) by the way, Eritrea would have been better off meekly accepting the hegemony of 31% of Ethiopians. That is a Neo-Andnet. There is incoherent version of Neo-Andnet who tells us that Eritreans should not have fought Haile Selasse when he was burning Eritrean villages but, by all means, Eritreans must fight Isaias Afwerki BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY including soliciting Ethiopian weaponry and declaring frontal assault that may result in full-fledged Eritrean civil war. This version of Neo-Andnet is the worst version of Akoy Tomas (Uncle Tom.)

      Now, if Ethiopian super-African status is a foregone conclusion, the Eritrean I want to negotiate with them is somebody who believes Eritrea has the potential to be a super-African country. (It is not about size but will power.) Not somebody who recites “saenkha maEre egrekha” over and over and looking down he always notices he has no feet.

      saay

      • Ermias

        SAAY,

        Your paragraph 1 – Okay fair enough. But there is only one writer that remotely fits that description as far as I know and that is YG. Even the unfairly criticized Papillon distanced herself from YG on those very points you mentioned. But as he said before, his motive is saving lives. He argues that we would not have had to go through all the things we went through and all the people would not have died before or after independence. SAAY, how far would you go to save a life? I know that is not a fair question but I always wonder how much piece of land is worth one precious life?

        Your paragraph 2 – You did not consider all the determinants of preeminence in today’s world – population size, resources, land, geopolitics, etc. Sky is the limit is not always applicable. I am not saying we can’t be super but we have fundamental limitations and we should recognize those and work around those limitations by exchanging what we have.

        • saay7

          Ermias:

          On Para 1: the qualifier you gave is “as far as I know.” First, with regards to the “one writer” it is not “remotely fits” but precisely fits. That is his entire premise. Second, there is another writer at asmarino, Yebio, who is just as as fanatical on Neo-Andnetism as YG: he was the one who was shedding crocodile tears for Kunama because he doesn’t know (or knows his writers don’t know) that for the Kunama “alake ebini” is the worse curse. It means, incidentally, “I curse that you get captured by an Abyssinian.” Third, you are forgetting all the fans who write horrific, hateful messages in support. So, yeah, Neo-Andnet is a movement deserving to be crushed, and it will.

          On Para 2, it is simply attitude Ermias arkey. My favorite joke about Yemeni’s is about a politician who, when their parliament was debating US hostility towards Yemen said that Yemen should declare war on Yemen and when his colleagues looked at him aghast, he said, “L’eh la? Amrika dewla, we yemen dewla!” (Why not: Yemen is a State and Yemen is a country.) Now, I don’t want our Eritrean politicians to be that obtuse in their dealings with Ethiopia; but I don’t want them to approach them the way Ethiopian subjects use to approach their kings, “My liege! fqadach’hu ke-hone…”

          saay

          • Eyob Medhane

            Sal,

            It is sad to see that you are becoming a genera of a battle that is being lost. I wish there is some sort of new invention that would help you getting out of the sixties, seventies and eighties. In 2014, When the cheesiest and the corniest song about an Eritrean girl named “Fiyameta” is sang by an Ehiopian singer, it gets so many young Eritreans excited and gets a very warm reception with weepy eyes. Several young Ethiopian singers, who are making these kinds of songs are getting so many visitors and listeners from Eritrean community, they are making it a marketing ploy to attract large number of Eritreans to their concerts. Your “neo-andinet will be crashed” bravado can not be more than just that. Bravado. YG and Girmay Yebio have made their marks and impression on the youth, which is the future. You on the other hand, lost the youth. You lost them badly…

          • saay7

            Eyob:

            I know history is not your thing, so let me try my luck with math and statistics. When you say YG and Girmay Yebio have made “their marks and impression on the youth” and I have “lost them badly”, do you have some numbers, some stats. Anything?

            I have heard Jacky Gosee’s “Fiyameta”: I hope that I don’t like it is not indicative of something malicious:) I liked Sami Yaynu’s “Semai”, Selamawit Gebru’s rendition of “Gu’e Leminey” and Abrehet Abdu’s rendition of Tegayshe. On the other hand, I hated Gossaye Tesfaye’s Kemdlayey and Hameru’s Saba Sabina. It is just a song: don’t over read it.

            Neo andnetism may not be crushed; it is something that exists in the pages of Asmarino and Pal Talks when YG shows up. So, you may be right: it is vapor ware:)

            Anyway, here is Gosee doing a bad cover of a bad song:) Enjoy and get all teary-eyed.

            saay

            http://youtu.be/MxCB354Druo

          • Eyob Medhane

            Oh Sal,

            I know it hurts to read so many of the comments, which seem to be from young Eritreans the in the comment section of that song. Oh..well, you can take that as a mini poll for your losing ‘I am gonna crash errrrrrrrrr’ fukera.. 🙂

            As far as Jacky Gossee’s song, as I said, it’s cheesy and corny and oh..he also needs to pull his goddamn pants up..

            I like Mesfin Bekele. It has a better message…I invite you to get out of that couch and move… 🙂

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orD_HCpF3gg

          • saay7

            Ah, so, Eyob:

            Not only is your relationship with history estranged, your relationship with statistics is strained too. So comments on youtube video are a form of a poll? Hmmm. So what, pray tell, are the commenters saying: it was a mistake for Eritreans to go their separate ways from Ethiopia?

            Your relationship with logic is also on skid row. If loving Amharic songs is a measure of Neo-Andnetism then I must be in that camp, so how can I be a general in the anti-neo-andnet movement?

            You are also waging a losing battle with comprehension (not your day.) I didn’t say “I am gonna crash….” For one thing, zeraf, zeraf, kekekeke is not an Eritrean thang:) For another, what I said is, “neo andnet is a movement deserving to be crushed and it will.” Not necessarily by me, but by the Eritrean nationalist wave. I am assuming this is because it is either a software or a hardware, but more and more I am getting convinced it is vaporware, in which case, it will vaporized.

            My relationship with Ethiopia is extremely healthy: respectful but fenced. You should really worry about those who tell Ethiopians “we love you!” “No, wait, we hate you!”, “No, no, wait, wait, we love you!” That is your Neo-Andnet:)

            saay

          • saay7

            Gwad Eyob:

            A story attributed to Freud, who famously interpreted dreams: once somebody asked him what a cigar represents in a dream. He reportedly said, “sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.” Similarly, I want to tell you, “sometimes, a song is just a song.”

            Example: Helen Pawlos. She is an Eritrean who sings in Tigrinya, Tigre and Amharic. Here’s one (of a few) she did in Amharic.

            http://youtu.be/vK8LwoBY6bg

            Sometimes, a song is just a song. You don’t have to look for deep political meaning into everything. I can love Amharic songs passionately (and I do) and still be an Eritrean nationalist who doesn’t pine for union with Ethiopia or spend my trying trashing its greatest accomplishment: its Ghedli.

            saay

          • dine

            saay
            u deserve honor and respect for saying ” sometimes, a song is just a song…..”

          • Eyob Medhane

            Sal,

            Beautiful girl, really bad rendition of Fikreaddis’ song. The sanitizer did not do her justice, either. God! Please kill sanitizers and mash drums, please….

          • saay7

            Eyobai:

            As I said, Helen Pawlos sings in Tigrayit (Tigre), which sounds good enough to me as a TSL (Tigrayt as a Second Language) speaker; but there is an FB friend who wants to take her to court and charge her with a first degree murder of his mother tongue.

            And, jeez, take it easy with the “Mussulman is coming!” lqso. Do you have any idea that you sound like half of the guests who appear on Fox News giving Islamic Doomsday? At least they have an excuse: they have never had a single personal interaction with a Muslim…wait, what am i saying: have you ever had a single personal interaction with Eritrean Muslims in Eritrea? I recommend a documentary/movie they did on Donald Rumsfeld. It is called “The Unknown Known.” You can’t keep your eyes off of it for 15 seconds. I highly recommend it. Its mandatory viewing for those of you who are so young you think you know everything.

            http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2390962/

            saay

          • Saleh Johar

            Saay, are you saying she shouldn’t be taken to court, once we have one?

          • saay7

            No, no, Abu Selah:

            I am saying my Tigrayit is not good enough if you want to call me as a character witness. You should call Semere Andom who always likes to be in the middle of mischief.

            saay

          • Saleh Johar

            Okay, because I have the corpse of the assassinated song as an exhibit.

          • Eyob Medhane

            Sal,

            I let Mr. Tony Blair the former UK Prime Minister answer for me to the question you asked me. He said this just yesterday. If you brought up Rumsfield, why can’t I bring up his friend Tony? 🙂

            This clip is only 2 and half minutes…

            http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-27122008

          • saay7

            Hey Eyob:

            Assignment completed. And your point being…?

            saay

          • Eyob Medhane

            Sal,

            My point being is it’s not only my ‘fox news commentator’ friends and I, who are the only once that are watching Arab cultural imperialism wrapped with radicalism unfolding. Islam, as we know it has nothing to do with these monsters, who are only interested in ‘taking over societies’, as Mr Blair aptly put it. As a citizen of a country, that is geographically very close to the Arab Cultural Imperialists (ACI) (That’s coined by me, stay away from it, because it’s copy righted 🙂 ) and they have long ago drawn plan to bring my people and my country to the fold of their primitive way of thinking and sinister way of accomplishing their goal, It’s my citizenry duty to watch their every move and take a note of it. That is my point, sir. Happy Friday….

          • saay7

            Eyobai:

            That’s it? All the estategomera (eSALegomera: copy right pending) I had prepared is now for nothing? 🙂

            saay

          • Eyob Medhane

            Sal,

            One more thing. Please watch the chop that I recommended to Haile at the top of this thread. Even elder Eritreans pretty much agree with my premise of ACI. (Refer to their comment, which is one of the Shabia negotiator insisting talking to them in Arabic rather than one of the other languages in Eritrea…..

            http://www.tubechop.com/watch/2656751

          • saay7

            Eyobai:

            Hit and miss, again. I have seen this video a long time ago; it is part of the incomparable Aida Kidane’s youtube channel. These are the misguided Eritreans who were enticed by Mengistu’s “self-administration” (Ras Gez astedader) proposal he gave from his deathbed. Their impaired judgement about the use of Arabic by EPLF representatives (why are you using Arabic? Use your own language!) was just a subset of their overall impaired judgement to negotiate with Mengistu when he was threatening to pull a Theodros act.

            Hit and miss. There is an expression for this back home (Gashye Saleh will translate for you): Seb tsewAley teblkwos beAl beles.

            saay

          • Eyob Medhane

            Sal,

            It’s very interesting. I wish I had the full video. I did not know that Derg Actually tried to negotiate with Shabia. I am assuming the Arabic speaker negotiator probably is in jail by now for the contact that he had with Ethiopians at that time 🙂 Could you please spare me some detail about it? I see Dr. Ashagre Yigletu, as a negotiator on the Ethiopian side. (He is a professor of Economics at Souther University A&M in Louisiana, now) How did the negotiations fell through. Please, Sal tell me. I really want to learn about this piece of history. Thanks.

            P.S So, anyone Eritrean and Ethiopian, who doesn’t fall to your thinking is misguided, even, if they are shimagele? Tsk tsk tsk…. 🙂

          • saay7

            Eyobai:

            Knock yourself out with the three-parter Eritreans who listened to the Shengo invitation of Gwad Mengistu Hailemariam:

            http://youtu.be/zw8YV6ZaNp4 (part 1)
            http://youtu.be/nszkBr3Xo0Q (part 2)
            http://youtu.be/lk7V8QWafMM (part 3)

            What happened to the Eritreans? Well, we cut off their right hand and left leg…wait, wait, I am thinking of justice Ethiopian style. Tikur Sew style. What happened then is that they are in exile saying, “ah, Hmaq meAlti we’Ele!” So, they are as punished (exiled) as those who brought Eritrean independence (the former tegadelti.)

            As to who the Ras Gez Astedader guys are (sometimes referred to as “Qolama”), Eich embley I won’t tell you because you always refuse to listen to my history sermons:)) I am sure some other Awatista will volunteer…

            saay

          • Papillonn

            I wonder where the three sellouts are. The three sellouts (Qegnazmatch Araya Seium, Hassan Ebid and the other guy) who sided with the butcher Mengistu.

          • Eyob Medhane

            Sal,

            Thank you, thank you, thank you. I am so excited to watch it. (I haven’t watched it, yet) I am really giddy about to learn some piece of history, I was never aware of. You are God sent, and I will return the favor, Sir. 🙂

          • saay7

            Eyobai:

            Here’s how you can return the favor: study history with context. I am not pretending to be wiser than you; just older. And I want you to avoid my mistakes. (“It is the curse of older people to give advice and young people to ignore ይላሉ ነጮቹ :). What do I mean by “context”? Let’s take the alternatives to war between Eritrea and Ethiopia. Here are the pieces you have to put together:

            1. In 1987, Mengistu Hailemariam abolished the Derg and Ethiopia wrote a new constitution. This constituton resulted in a new Parliament (Shengo) which had 835 members. Some of these Shengo members were from Eritrea (these are the ones you see in Part 1 of the video.) “In an obvious effort to diffuse demands for ethnic self determination, this national assembly, in its first session, approved the creation of 24 administrative and five so-called autonomous regions – Eritrea, Assab, Dire Dawa, Tigre, and Ogaden.”* Clever, huh.

            2. The Carter Center’s International Negotiation Network (INN) hosted peace talks between EPLF and the Derg (two weeks in Atlanta, one week in Nairobi) in 1989. The discussions were supposed to be without pre-conditions, public. Under the terms of the peace talks, each side could spin through its media how the talks were going (the video you see is the Ethiopian spin; Eritrea then had only its clandestine radio.) The INN has a report on why the talks headed nowhere**: the UN could not show up as an observer unless it was invited by both parties and the Derg wouldn’t give its consent; Harbegna Weyanai wasn’t invited (the Italian communist party was hosting a Derg-TPLF peace talks), etc.

            3. The other peace talks were between Derg and former members of the ELF who claimed to represent the Western-lowlands of Eritrea. As the EPLF-TPLF alliance was knocking on the door of victory, these “ELF-affiliated” individuals (a 5-man group which sadly included people with nationalist credentials) claiming to represent 750,000 Eritreans started negotiating with the Derg for Ras Gez Astedader for their piece of the Eritrean pie.*** A giddy Mengistu presented this proposal to his Shengo, but the EPLF-TPLF march short-cut that little misguided attempt short on its tracks. If you want to understand why Gash Saleh came on strong against the recent Eritrean Lowland League initiative, there’s your answer.

            Now, the part where you return the favor. Please read Jonathan Miran’s “A Historical Overview of Islam in Eritrea.”**** If you want to invest a little bit more time, you can also read his “Red Sea Citizens: Cosmopolitan Society and Cultural Change in Massawa.” Then you can have an informed debate about the dangers of Islamic extremism, instead of repeating what Fox News guests tell you about random Islam in a random corner of the world. You are a very intelligent person but I feel embarrassed for you when I read your posts at awate and asmarino which you write using the pen name you and I both know.

            Sources:

            * The Ethnogenesis of the Oromo Nation and Its Implications for Politics in Ethiopia
            Author(s): Edmond J. KellerSource: The Journal of Modern African Studies, Vol. 33, No. 4 (Dec., 1995), pp. 621-634

            ** Dayle E. Spencer & Honggang Yang, Lessons from the Field of Intra-National Conflict Resolution, 67 Notre Dame L. Rev. (1992).

            *** http://countrystudies.us/ethiopia/126.htm. (Library of Congress)

            **** A Historical Overview of Islam in Eritrea Author(s): Jonathan Miran. Die Welt des Islams, New Series, Vol. 45, Issue 2 (2005), pp. 177-215

          • Eyob Medhane

            Sal,

            Thank you again.

            1) I don’t have any other pen name other than Eyob Medhane. If you’ve read someone else at asmarino.com who may sound like me, I am sorry. But, it ain’t me. I seldom comment on Asmarino, 99.9 times only on YG articles.

            2) What the heck? I remember Shengo, because one of my teachers at AAU in early 90s Dr. Hailu Araya told us that he was a member of it. But I never knew derg tried to constitute autonomous regions. That’s very new to me. Thank you for the information. I am going to try to learn more about it.

            3) On the videos that you graciously allowed me to watch, I got misty eyes, when I see so many of my old mentors at the former Ministry of Information at Abune Petros. Gash Asrat Seyum, a master of the English language (RIP) Yilqal Behabte, a great presenter, Zenaneh Mekonnen, a great TV personality, Meaza Birru, one of the best female journalists, now heading the private Sheger Radio, Nigest Selfu, who used to tell the story of Sadam Hussein and brought the first Gulf war vividly into everyone’s home. Negash Mohammed, a journalist that made history by asking former PM Meles Zenawi about Ethiopian flag and made the savvy Meles to give a kind of response that he regretted he uttered until the rest of his life… So many people. I got misty eyes. Again, I really than you about it, now working for German Radio Amharic service. Solomon Abate, now in VOA Amharic service….You made me pull out of my picture from my early twenties and reminisce. Thank you so much again…

            4) I will read all the books you have recommended, as time permits. Thanks again…

          • saay7

            Eyobai:

            One of my least favorite traits of Eritreans is paranoia (I wrote an article about it, still one of my favorites, if I may say so myself: “Let’s Build A Monument to Paranoia” (http://awate.com/saleh-aa-younis-ii/) And when people go on a witch hunt guessing which pen name belongs to whom, I consider it the least productive use of time. So my apologies if I confused you with a commenter by the name of “r.dachuben” at asmarino. I could have sworn you once told me you are him by inviting me to read what “r.dachuben” wrote.

            Back to Mengistu. The late 1980s were really the beginning of the end for him, which is why the Shengo, the “peace talks”, were too little too late. From Paul Henze’s timeline:

            * 2/88: General Tariku Ayene challenges Mengistu’s Eritrea policy. Mengistu orders him shot. Total morale collapse of the Derg army.
            3/88: EPLF liberates Afabet and demolishes Nadew Ez. 20,000 Derg conscripts and three Russian officers captured (Directly related to above.) Derg withdraws all the way to Keren.
            2/89: Harbeyna Weyane liberates Enda Selasse. 12,000 Derg soldiers captured. Mengistu withdraws entirely from Tigray.
            5/89: Mengistu goes to East Germany, and there is a coup attempt. The Northern Military Command (based in Asmara) throws its support behind the coup. Mengistu returns and his loyalists liquidate every general in Northern Military Command. Only one to survive was General Kumlachaw Dejene, who made it to the US (because he was CIA agent, ylalu you know who.)

            So all the Carter talks,Shengo, etc, was Mengistu hoping for a miracle, which never came.

            saay

          • Eyob Medhane

            Oooooh Sal,

            That guy is certainly not me. But I think the confusion you may have had was few weeks ago, in a conversation I had with Ermias, I quoted a guy from asmarino.com comment section to make a point on ACI (Arab Cultural Imperialism) The guy I quoted was not the guy you thought me with a different pen name. It was a different person. But I understand the confusion. To be honest, I almost EXCLUSIVELY comment only on awate.com. Few times (may be less than ten times) I have commented on YG articles with my usual pen name Eyob Medhane. That was all. I am all awate’s, Sal…. 🙂

          • saay7

            Alright Eyob:

            My bad. Here’s my peace pipe. Helen Pawlos singing in Amharic without a harmonizer but with the dreaded drum machine:) If Gash Saleh is nice to her, I will include one of her songs in Tigre.

            saay

            http://youtu.be/D8Ely2BGEp0

          • dine

            saay
            do you know any thing about Emperor Haile selassie Mother was a Muslim/ethiopian and some of his grandchildren are a Muslim/Arab?

          • Saleh Johar

            A little addition abu salaH: the players of the eighties, though Qollama has become a catchphrase, they had other groups from the Highlands and another from the Eastern Lowlands. The closest thing they had with the ELF was that two of its members were Qiada Amma members who left the ELF at that time (together with the notorious Hamdan) Three were members of the PLF (Sabbe) With them was General Abbe Hiabu (Commandos from Keren) who formed a Lowland army of Wedogeba and another person formed similar army in the Highlands. There were other people in the negotiations who had nothing to do with the struggle era organizations. In his book, Alamin Mohd. Saeed accuses Ejel of being the go-between in the alleged Abdella Idris-Derg communications. Nothing was proved, but after independence of Eritrea, Ejail was snatched together with many others in Eritrea and Ethiopia, including the well known Addis restaurant owner, Qeberecho. They all disappeared at the hands of the PFDJ without trail.

            By the way, in June 1991, I traveled to Eritrea from Mekelle in one car with Tefahonegn Maasho who was member of the Derg negotiating team. I heard he was jailed but I havn’t heard of him ever since. I had an interesting story to tell about my experience in that trip–some other time.

      • Hope

        Sal,
        Weledka’ta Ella ghirimit wela weled huka,the” kebir”?
        Curious–sorry if I crossed the red line.

        • saay7

          Hope:

          Welet Huye…le n’ush. Welet Ali ta::

          saay

          • Hope

            Mash’Allah,—the one at home ( made it safely?)

          • saay7

            nope.

            She can’t come home because we have a crazy Ganen for a prez

            saay

          • Semere Andom

            Selam Saleh
            I was so happy to see her picture here, so she does not remain nameless and faceless, a mere number, the way the crazy pfdj want her to be.
            Sem

          • hope

            But “safe” though,hopefully….

    • Hope

      Ermi,
      Eventhough SAAY said it all,here is my concern:
      -First of all, I have trouble understanding your stand,with apology if I misunderstood you.
      -Second,while I agree with you that “Might might be right and size might matter”,we cannot, by any means, compromise our National Interest and Territorial Integrity and Sovereignty,simply because Ethiopia is a “Super Power” and we do respect that but what we do NOT respect is Ethiopia’s belligerance simply because she is “African Super Power”,unless you want to tell me that,that is what her master,the USA, advised her to do so/to follow suit,which seems to be the case as she is being assigned to be the Boss and spy agent of the Horn of Africa as S Africa and Nigeria,are for the Southern and Western Africa,which has never been productive.
      If the Ethiopians respect our independence,Territorial Integrity and our National Security and Interest,we will do the same and will try to live peacefully and amicably and move for a regional economic integration.But what we see now is the other way round, and this is NOT PFDJ propaganda,but facts.

    • Jo

      Mr Defeatist 🙂

      Notwithstanding the super power status of Ethiopia (if a nation that can not feed a portion of its population and that could not survive without an injection of aid, could be one.), why not negotiate with the US then instead, since it harbors the same sentiments as the woyane towards PFDJ and it is a super power in real sense. Do you really know why the Eritrean opposition wanted to defeat PFDJ? If you do, do you think the Ethiopian government subscribes to the notion and reason of the Eritrean opposition? Why do you think a nation that is, by all norms and measures, in violation of implementing, all the good things Eritreans are aspiring and longing to implement, within its borders, would be a partner to implement it elsewhere? I don’t think Ethiopia is the wagon that could deliver all the good things anywhere: it has got no wheels (with a bit twist a la Saleh:)).

      If your intention is a sublime way of advocating the subjugation of Eritrea and become a defeatist, indeed, you have succeeded to become one. Congratulations!!!

      Luwam zelwo mushet!!!

      • Ali-S

        Jo!

        I agree completely on your comments on “super-power”. Good job!

        But take it easy on Ermias. I will be reporting him to Dr. Saba’s clinic. I think he is missing his meds.

        On a serious note: I don’t think Ermias means that literally as he seems more interested in motivating a debate rather than making a contribution. You think he could be serious?

        • Jo

          Hello Ali-S,

          No, I don’t. I think he is a lot smarter than that, but, as you said, his intention could be to stir a debate and he has, I think, succeeded.

          By the way, in your last article, specially on the religious groups, you really nailed it. If only people could have seen what kind of positive impact those groups had on the whole society, without compromising the integrity of our “ERITREA BELLA”. Alas!!!!

          Again, Kudos!

          Luwam zelewo meAlti!!!

      • Ermias

        Jo, I am trying to tell you ultra nationalists that “The people of Eritrea are much more important than the land of Eritrea.” What is an Eritrean life worth per square foot of land or sea or whatever? I am willing to listen to anyone who offers to preserve Eritrean life at the expense of anything, specially if the preservation is for now and for future generations to come. YG said ‘people first’ and I find that very appealing.

        That’s the problem with a lot of you guys here. Why should I declare complete allegiance to any school of thought? I look at things on a case by case and point by point basis.

        • Jo

          Hello Ermias,

          Let me ask you this, What does a country mean to you? If you answer this question, I think, you will be able to find the answer you are looking for. If the idea of nationhood to you is strictly a question of physical space, then no wonder that you are seduced by the mechanical thinking process of square inch of land vs human life mindset. It is a deceiving emotional stimuli to achieve a preconceived agenda. I think, the notion of nationhood is the desire of people to live together in peace, harmony and security. People do not go to war, simply, over a patch of land. People go to war because their rights are violated, their security is compromised, and their peace is disturbed. That is what the Ethiopians exactly did in Eritrea: Burning villages ( Omhager, Woki, Decamare, Shimangus, Merhano…), Masacre (hoarding people to churches and mosques and torching them, bayoneting women and children, running them over with tanks (Shieb)…), torture (beating, electric shocks….). What makes you think, having the current situation in mind, it is not going to happen again? It is the betrayal of trust and crimes of recurrent Ethiopian regimes that created “the ultra nationalism” of Eritreans.

          There are three scenarios one could support the “neo andnet” argument: A) he doesn’t know the atrocities committed by Ethiopians against Eritreans, B) he is an opportunist and deliberately pretends to forget C) he doesn’t really care. “B” and “c” are disqualified by virtue of their imposition (driven either by opportunism or self preservation) pretending to care about human life when they, really, don’t. “A” needs to dig a little bit deeper, learn, and snap out of the mechanical mindset.

          Now, having said all that, Eritreans do not have ill will towards Ethiopia or Ethiopians. As neighbours, we want them to live in peace, harmony, security, and prosperity. We want to be good neighbours that strive to eliminate poverty and backwardness; bring dignity and prosperity to the people of both nations, according to the tenets of natural and international norms.

          The land of Eritrea is not just a land; it is home; it is peace; it is harmony; it is security; and God willing, it will be prosperity. Those are guaranteed, only, by our borders. Therefore, an INDEPENDENT NATION.

          Luwam zelewo meAlti!!

        • Guet

          Similar to what Jo said to you,
          if your “The people of Eritrea are much more important than the land of Eritrea.” is to make any sense, wouln’t you say, callin the people “Eritreans” shoud be wrong, because the name came from the land Eritrea?
          Though Your frequent sweying from one side to the other side , and the continously appologizing and rephrasing of words that you have to do here, telling, still you shouln’d have missed that people group themselves according to the land, and hence defending that land is basicsllly defending the people

          • Ermias

            No, defending people and defending barren land is not the same. Why are you here then? Go defend your land. Woyane has some of it. Shameful PFDJ sympathizers. Wediaymen eyu kikzefelkum abzi berger enda belaekum. Just because I look at things on an issue by issue basis, you extremists think I am going back and forth. Again, I will never blindly declare complete allegiance to anyone’s agenda. But if anyone proposes anything to me that saves lives and improves livelihoods, then I will listen. But you ignorants can go kiss IA’s old butt.

          • Papillonn

            Dear Ermias,

            These are good for nothing pathetic losers. I bet you the tyrant himself doesn’t think much of them. He sure knows that they get blown away by a wind like a fallen and dried leaves. I can’t wait to see them shitting in their sorry pants in the aftermath of the tyrant’s blown up cirrhotic liver. God bless Eritrea.

    • Nacfa

      Kid kedami,yehfirka–Eritrawi entequenkha.

    • AMAN

      I doubt it ! And I do not think so !
      Because what you are saying now and what seem only
      recently revealed to you has been eloquently proved and done by many Eritrean and Ethiopian scholars.
      But I think you are asking for us again to do it one more time for you. Are you a late comer ? Or may be you were serving other purposes and or
      somebody’s agenda first than your own. I am afraid you
      sound you sound like one of those who lost their Eritrean
      freedom for woyane service. Because if Ethiopia can be
      a superpower by this way and while the anti Eritrean
      people is still at the helm it would be only at the expence
      of Eritrea, Eritrean people and/or Eritrean peoples freedom. why ?
      Because the cart is still before the horse………!
      So your advice seems more for a surrender than a
      peacefull way out and sustainable peace and long term
      common prosperity.

    • Kim Hanna

      Dear Ermias,
      Hey, Ermias, what is happening here. Are you a masochist. You remember a short while ago you were complaining that Ethiopians were jumping on your case whenever you mentioned Eth. in passing.
      Well, you touched a hornet’s nest now. They are coming to sting like a swarm of bees.
      Ermias, some of those hornets with sharp stings are coming around you and getting me in the nose, if you know what I mean. It hurts.
      You got to be careful, diplomat like. We are all in the same boat, you know, even if some of them don’t think so.
      K.H

    • Dear Ermias,

      You are not a defeatist in any way, but a pragmatist (a realist). Ethiopia might not be a super power, but she is a power to reckon with in the horn (you might call her
      the powerful among the powerless). Contrary to those who live in permanent
      denial, population and resources count a lot in the power balance of a nation. Strong will, without the necessary means has no importance, and most of the time, it means a lot of sacrifice, and it is equivalent to pushing a big stone up a
      steep mountain, only with the danger to be crushed.

      If Israel did not have the full backing of the US and the West, she wouldn’t have lasted a decade, after her creation as a Jewish state, in the most hostile of all places.

      Ethiopia and Eritrea applied to serve the only world power (the USA), and the
      master, as any logical master would do, chose the stronger and the more valuable servant, and discarded the weak and smaller servant. The discarded servant is attacking the master and the one who was chosen day and night for that. What a hypocrisy!

      Some people are not yet cured of the bad infection they contacted from Italians and Gedli, that Eritrea and Eritreans are superior to Ethiopia and Ethiopians. This has blinded many and they have failed to see the real and the logical in the Ethio-Eritrean relations. Antagonizing Ethiopia and having a belligerent stand towards her today and in the future, I am sorry to say is what Ethios characterize as “ከወደቁ በኋላ መንፈራገጥ ለመመላለጥ፣”, thus making things worse with every day that is passing. The power to read the signs of the future is what we miss in Eritrean intellectuals.

      I do not think that the neo-andnets are demonized because of their rapprochement with Ethiopia; but
      much more for desecrating Gedli (the holy cow, the holy grail). In the eyes of
      ultra-nationalists, neo-andnets have committed an unforgivable sin of doubting Gedli.

      What the Ethiophobes do not want to accept in front of the Eritrean people, although they know it very well, is that Ethiopia will never invade Eritrea unless attacked. There are many reasons for this; the fact that she is hosting the AU, the no-war-no-peace status quo is working perfectly to her advantage, there is the suicidal PFDJ, which is self-destroying and unfortunately destroying the Eritrean society at the same time, economic development has become the banner of the day for Ethiopians, her enemies are crumbling around her etc. Why should she be involved in a war that she has nothing to gain from, but a lot to lose by stalling her development, unless she is extremely foolish?

      The cultural onslaught we are seeing recently is driving fear in to the nationalistic camp, because they know that this is a strong weapon in bringing people together. This is a bloodless war and a very effective one for that in undermining extremisms of all sorts.

      The future of Eritrea could be divided
      in to two phases; that of surviving the PFDJ onslaught (the existential phase) and that of creating a prosperous future Eritrea (developmental phase). Indeed Ethiopia should not have any role in
      the first phase, and as much as the second phase is concerned, it is up to
      Eritreans to decide whether to cooperate with Ethiopia or not, having in mind
      that the bigger economy of Ethiopia is going to be the deciding force if Eritrea’s economy is going to be thriving or stunted.

      • Hope

        Horizon,
        We careless about the jumbo-mubo talk about power but about a”Peaceful Co-existence”.What we have asked for, has been for respect and peaceful co-existence besides respecting “International Law”.
        You are totally contradicting,albeit,deliberately.
        You also confirmed the above to us by saying:”There are many reasons for this; the fact that she is hosting the AU, the no-war-no-peace status quo is working perfectly to her advantage…”,meaning that since she is hosting the impotent AU,she has the right to do whatever she wants to do….
        Kudos to you.
        As your saying goes:” Sayterut Abet,Saylikut wedet”.We do NOT need you,your help and your lecture but just hands off from our business as we have proved to you that,not only that we can solve our problems,but also we have solved your problems—-and NOT only, that we should have been respected as a good neighbor,but also,as Ali Salim(Younis Hussein) said it,you Ethiopians should have erected a Statue/Monument for each and every Eritrtean in the centers of all the Ethiopian Cities for what we Eritreans have done for you despite what you have done to us…

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Mr. Hope,

          Talk about hope and peace. But If you ask them to erect statue/monument of Eritreans in their cities, wouldn’t they ask us, that theirs also to be erected in our cities, for the simple reason they sacrificed in the battles of Sahel, Barka etc side by side with us? Why do you bring such none sense argument? Whether it had validity/rationale or not, it was enacted on the spirit of cooperation against common enemy.

        • Hope,

          One can easily see how well you solved your problems by making Eritrea an unlivable place and by sending us almost 100K refugees. As much as solving the Ethiopian problem is concerned, it seems that trying to solve our problems, you rather inherited
          them by creating your own dictator, which you are serving with so much passion.

          Your obsession with the international law is not helping at all. Over the last twelve years, the world does not seem to be interested with your case
          and you cannot enforce it yourself. Therefore, you better move on, and do not keep the Eritrean people in bondage for the sake of a God-forsaken piece of
          land. My friend, you and your colleagues are on the wrong side of history.

  • Dawit

    ሓደ ልቢ ሓደ ህዝቢ።

    • Ermias

      Dawit “The Cartoonist Extraordinaire!” I think that’s how you should be addressed from here on because the ‘little dawit’ is confusing some people.

      I am actually surprised that the extreme nationalists and Ethiophobes have not jumped all over your case yet or maybe they are staring blankly at the flag and not realizing anything.

      • saay7

        Ermiasom:

        We extreme nationalists and Ethiopobes didn’t jump all over Dawitom because we respect artistic license. Also: because, as our Amara cousins say, ሁለት እግር ኣለኝ ተብሎ፥ ሁለት ዛፍ ኣይወጣም 🙂 It is that sebay klte nyew nejew kbl msla of our forfathers. That’s why we shake our heads at our misguided YGists and their confused heart:))

        much love

        saay

        • dine

          saay, u can’t be woyane (ethio-gov) lover and Ethiophobes at the same time. can u?

      • dawit

        ‘little dawit’ is confronting the collection of Goliaths of the andenets, the pseudo Eritrean opposition and the woyane agents combined. No wonder they are all confused by ‘little dawit’ armed with the truth.

      • Hope

        Mr. Investigator,may be you can help us understand it better??

    • Abinet

      I don’t like the idea at all. Please tell the unionists to forget about it . we don’t need them anymore .who are these people anyways? They must be out of their minds if they think that we will take them back.we are done with them long time ago .Ethiopia is not a sports bar where one comes and goes as he pleases. When the going is taugh , back to Ethiopia? No way!!
      We wasted so much human and material wealth in the name of unity.unity reminds me of only bad things including derg.
      So, we need peace and cooperation not unity.
      Peace and prosperity for both people!

      • Ali-S

        Abinet,

        Thank you for all the reassuring comments that you make. Please keep repeating it wherever you get the time. We sleep in peace knowing that we are not going to the garbage can ever again.

        It would help very much if you could formulate your comments into letters to be sent to the Weyane officials who are licking and kissing the feet of our sellouts to show them how to get us back to the bin. We are trying to tell them stay where you belong. We do not belong in that stink.

        I am ready to pay the mailing expenses in Nakfa.

        • dine

          Ali
          if u follow the present day ethiopia’s politics not only u sleep in peace but also u don’t use stinking words to describe ethiopia and Weyane because u will know the Weyanes love u more than some ethiopians (some ethnic).

          • Ali-S

            Dine,

            I cannot understand how some vengeful bunch could convince a whole nation, without exception, to collaborate & impose every imaginable idea that are choke Eritrea to death. Imagine getting a whole population to do this one generation after another.

            I have a lot of respect for Eritreans. At least there are a few would would always differ and a few more who would even go to a civil war to prove a point.

            I would consider it a miracle for any Ethiopian (including non-Tigrayans) who would differ and entertain the possibility that what the Weyane are doing to Eritrea may wrong. “None” is made in Ethiopia.

          • dine

            Ali,
            i know weyane choking EPLF to death but i was talking about the people of eritrea,to find out about their (weyane) understanding of ERI people, all u get to do 1st, differentiate EPLF with ERI people and than try to follow ethnic politics of ethiopia and u will know how much they love eritrea and how much they heat some ethiopians.

        • Abinet

          I think the reverse is true . It is your opportunistic and untrustworthy opposition leaders are begging and kissing “woyane” to come back to mama ethiopia . I tell them we don’t trust you , we do not need you , stay away from us. Majority of Ethiopians don’t want anything to do with Eritrea . To them Eritrea is not important and it is fading away from our memory fast .
          I tell the unionists to make a quick u- turn and go back to their independent country .

          • Yodita

            Abinet

            You affirm: “Majority of Ethiopians don’t want anything to do with Eritrea.”

            The majority of 100 million is 50 million+. Are you sure you know what you are talking about? This very sentence betrays a quality of assertion that is set to bull-dozz, miss-lead and create ‘havoc’.

            Abinet: be responsible and avoid emotional interventions – an advice from an Eritrean sister who impatiently waits for the day these two countries will walk hand in hand towards a better and happier world.

          • Abinet

            Yodita
            I consider myself as a moderate when it comes to eritrean issue.you said a majority is 50% and more . Yodit, try May be 80%.and I’m not exaggerating . Eritrea is discussed only by older generation and in the diaspora . Every time I go home,I here less and less about Eritrea
            Eyob may have something to say about this since he was there recently . I was there in 2012. If you here anything , believe me it is not about unity or something like that.
            Yodit , I have always believed in unity,friendship ,brotherhood etc between the two people but I have yet to see it reciprocated by Eritreans. Of course , there are individuals like yourself, the beloved Hayat , haile the great and many more . But look what they got for it ? They are labeled Ethiopians. As if being an ethiopian is the worst thing in the world. I tell them we are very proud people.
            Regards

        • Eyob Medhane

          Ali-S,

          Take it easy. Be patient. Your vision for Eritrea is to be materialized way faster than you thought. With the help of some blind folded Kebessa Eritreans with hate what you really want could happen soon. With your kind of meticulous method you are evicting the Kebessa or as you call them the ‘land grabers’ out of their home, hand them to to Arab bedouins to butcher them and making them sink in the Mediterranean sea. Soon you’ll be able to claim their land and homes and will be able to drop Eritrean to what is a real stink the 7th century Arabic culture dump. Don’t worry. You’ll get what you want real soon. Large number of the Eritrean Kebessa are more than happy to facilitate their own slaughter for your pleasure. All you have to do is just keep what you are doing…

      • Dear Abinet,

        My friend, these neo-andnets are
        people who see the present and the future more clearly than the ultra-nationalists. The present and the future have proved beyond any doubt that the perceptions of
        yesteryears were flawed. They have stopped living in the past. They are not naïve; they are practical people. They are the ones who are trying to correct the wheel, so that Eritrea should not fall over the cliff.

        A failed, defeated and battered Eritrea is worse for Ethiopia. Whatever they might say, Eritreans cannot avoid Ethiopians and vise versa. Leave us alone, is simply a false alarm
        by Eritreans. For good or worse, we are stuck together, and even the great wall of China could not separate us, unless of course, Eritrea falls into the laps
        of a power that is anti-Ethiopian and anti-West, with religious and
        geopolitical interests (e.g. Islamizing Eritrea and making the Red sea an Arab sea).
        These will be very ugly days for both Eritreans and Ethiopians.

        One should therefore worry of a
        failed Eritrea; she will be of no good to anybody, not to herself and not to the region. The neo-andnets are trying to prevent this. They want Eritrea to retain her dignity and prosper through peaceful coexistence and cooperation mainly
        with Ethiopia, rather than antagonizing the only friendly country she can ever
        have. There is no future for Eritrea as long as she remains antagonistic and belligerent towards Ethiopia. Ultra-nationalist Eritreans see their identity, dignity and pride through the prism of antagonizing and hating Ethiopia, which is their greatest mistake.

        Eritrean nationalists are worried
        much more about the lost luster of a failed Gedli than anything else. It is difficult to say that they are naïve and do not understand the present situation in Eritrea.

        Those at the helm (DIA and the PFDJ party) are taking the ship (Eritrea) straight on to a rock and in to the abyss, and PFDJ supporters are telling the Eritrean people that they have made the best choice ever by making a U-turn, looking
        backwards, so that they do not see where the captain of the ship is taking them. All Eritreans, those who are onboard and even the opposition, are told to do the same thing, and refrain from any action of throwing overboard, those who are at the helm and take over the ship and correct its direction towards safety.

        • Yodita

          Kbur Horizon,

          Please allow for an admirer, albeit modest, to express appreciation and
          gratitude for the ‘lamp post’ role you play in Awate.com. I am a keen follower of your pen. In my view,
          both Knowledge and wisdom ooze from every pore of your contributions. How much poorer and drearier the whole
          scenario would be if the ones with polarized (and sometimes extreme) views were
          to have a free ride and prevail without the intervention of the pens such as
          yours, Hayat Adem’s and some few others!

          There are some, whose perception of the two countries in
          question, it seems, has not moved an inch since they were kids
          (indoctrination?)! They are deeply
          anchored there and a principle motor of their contributions seems to be on how
          to aliment this belief and enhance it and further the fracture, unconcerned
          about the needs and expectations of the coming generations who deserve a much
          better world. Their reaction to an
          opposed view lacks intellectual honesty! Rather than debating it, they label
          and condemn (very strongly)!

          In this type of situation, my dear Horizon, you come out
          pragmatic, forward-looking and rational, laced with wisdom and simplicity
          (humility?) Indeed as one of the ‘lamp posts’ in this turbulent and grey (and
          sometimes real dark) times.

          Thank you for being there
          and God bless!!!

        • Abinet

          Selam horizon
          I totally understand what you are saying . However,nomatter what their situation may be, I don’t trust them any more.we have sefered for so long in the name of unity. . I, personally lost two uncles , cousins,friends because of the war for unity.”Eritrea wey mot”. On top of that , I was beaten by eprdf/EPLF military police when we protest against the former UN Secretary General when he visited addis
          (. I was at AAU) . Everybody knows what happened that day. All in the name of unity.
          I wish Eritrea peace and prosperity, but I don’t want them to come back even for a day.
          Let us become good neighbors .Regards

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Dear Horizon,

          Though, I don’t believe on the labeling epithet “neo-andnet” to them, I will use the word because you seem to accept the labeling. In any case the neo-andnets have also their own flaws like the ultra-nationalist. Indeed, on the opposite end of the ultra-nationalist, they also live in the past, and they talk and argue about the past. They don’t recognize the “new reality” born from the political-dynamics of the horn, that Eritrea is a “sovereign nation”. There are many ways these two nations could co-exist and live in peace. They don’t argue on those possibilities.

          Ghedli is history and that history is concluded with the new reality. The question is how do we handle the new reality and make it worth for both brotherly people. In my view both the ultra-nationalist and the neo-andnet are the obstacles of the current political debate. Having different political administration will not hinder us from having economic and cultural cooperation. There are many fundamental issue we can agree on and those issue will not be solved on cyber politics of virtual world. It is only on “live debate” and /or round table talks. But one thing I can assure you, that though it seems difficult to quantify it and surely will not be settled in such forum, there are many of us who are learning from this friction of perspectives. In short I like your input except your attempt to contrast between the two groups. Please keep up on engaging.

          • Dear Mr. Amanuel Hidrat,

            I find it difficult to believe that the neo-andnets are blind to the accomplished fact that Eritrea is an independent country. If asked whether Eritrea should put away her independence for unity, I am of the opinion that they would not accept the
            dissolution of the Eritrean independence. What they are against, according to my understanding is that, the cost – benefit of the Eritrean revolution was enormously on the negative side, and the reasons for starting the revolution were not satisfactory. If dictatorship is dismantled in Eritrea tomorrow, I hope that they will settle for an independent and peaceful Eritrea, with close economic, political, social and even military relations with Ethiopia. If this is going to lead to unity or not, should be left to future generations.

            This, I believe, is where they differ from the ultra-nationalists, who are against any sort of rapprochement with Ethiopia, because they fear that any contact with Ethiopia will dilute their independence and sovereignty, due to what I might call, the size factor. This is not a healthy situation.

            Would I be satisfied if Eritrea is united with Ethiopia tomorrow? No, I would not be happy about it, because I know that it is not going to work. On the contrary, if I see a gradual normalization, for example, by starting demobilization, I would be more hopeful that more measures that are positive would follow. Therefore, we should aim first at correcting things that have become a big burden on the economy of both countries and the social life of both people, to be followed with wider topics for negotiation and resolution in the future. Of course, this is for a democratic government that is going to replace the PFDJ.

    • dawit

      It is clear from the picture those two flag do not match no mater how you tried, better to be hosted separately. I know Ethiopia needed the blue color from Eritrea, that will not happen for ever! Curtsy of Woyane, their gift to Ethiopia.

  • haile

    “Criticizing” isn’t the same as “opposing”:

    Criticizing example (for me): at an earlier stages when the regime was milking the border issue the opposition should have clarified its position so that to encourage fence sitters to join.

    Opposing example (as done by the self styled nth wayers): that to oppose the regime is to sell the country, that the regime’s atrocity is defending thenation, Eritrea would fall into wars and chaos if the attrocity of the regime is stopped, calling the opposition pupets, sellouts, corrupt… is done either in “self agrandizment” or “agency of the regime”.

    Please don’t blame me that you are challenged to understand the distinction of “criticizing” to “opposing”. I have a habit of choosing words, to best fit what I wish to say. It is upto you not to lazy-read.

    • Guest

      A man of millinon contradictions, and then some:
      Oh, trust me, no laziness here. In your first comment

    • Guest

      Haile (the Gr8): A man with million contradictions and then some:
      Still on your first comment: you started with “do away with cretisizing….”, added your ususal thing to justify your decicission , then used “THEREFOPRE” to hit your point home and concluded repeating your starting point “do away with critisizing/opposing”. All is done in one paragraph, to project one point.
      So, haile my man, you said what you said. And we read you good. Don’t you worry about us. Worry about you, cos you seem to forget what you said earlier (Could be busy life)
      Your second comment is also full of holes, as usual, but we will get back to that by moving this thread up, as you added another set of million contradictions in all your new comments to other commenters

  • saay7

    Selamat Ismail:

    I have been reading you since the 1990s and your articles are always fluid, a ride on a Lincoln. Intelligence plus moral clarity. That is why I was a bit surprised when the Lincoln hit a pothole and you classified people who disagree with you on EFFECTIVE OPPOSITION as defeatists. Let me see if I can engage you by rephrasing what they (The Third Way) are saying.

    First of all, I don’t think they should call themselves The Third Way because that implies that they have a plan. If they do, they have kept it a secret. They are more “none of the above” and a “pox on both their houses” guys. Now, I understand how people get offended when The Third Way create moral equivalence between the PFDJ and “the opposition” as if they are equally guilty for the quicksand Eritrea finds itself in. However, I believe it is not a sign of defeatism to attribute some of the blame for Eritrea’s current state on “the opposition” and to demand dramatic changes effective immediately.

    First, some definitions. I believe when Ali Salim and Semere Tesfay are talking about “the opposition”, they are referring to the mostly-Addis based organizations who are or were once a member of the Eritrean Democratic Alliance (EDA). I don’t know who Saba refers to when she is saying the “cyber opposition” because one of the many weaknesses that opposition has is a profound absence in cyberspace. (do people still use the word cyberspace, by the way?)

    Now, the facts are that 23 years after Eritrea’s independence, and 13 years after the opposition expanded to include members of the EPLF in 2001, the state of Eritrea’s opposition (the Addis based current or ex-EDA members) is moribund. When this simple observation is made, there is a tendency by those of us who are in the opposition to get terribly offended and/or to quickly admit their “incompetence” and then just as quickly change the subject. What Ali Salim and Semere Tesfai are saying is, “no, wait, this is exactly what the pro-Isaias group does: concede the point that the PFDJ is ‘imperfect’ and just as quickly change the subject.” What Ali Salim and Semere Tesfai are saying is that “the opposition” is not just incompetent; it is monumentally so; its blunders are so huge it disqualies them from being an opposition; its screw-ups are so massive, they are actually a liability to Eritrea and a crutch to Isaias Afwerki/PFDJ. This is the area that Ali Salim should be challenged to expound on; Semere Tesfai has given his views on the subject: he believes their stand on the Badme War and all the actions/inactions since then are the disqualifers.

    Now, one might say that since there are no surveys done in Eritrea or in Diaspora, there is no way of knowing the level of support the Eritrean opposition enjoys. True. But we know that there are countries and institutions who have absolutely given up on Isaias Afwerki; however, at the same time, they have kept their distance from the opposition. Isn’t that an absolute measure of failure, objectively measured? Or are we going to blame that not on the opposition but the countries and institutions keeping their distance from the opposition? Are we going to treat the Opposition like a retarded family member: admitting his weaknesses but pledging our unconditional love and fealty? If we do that, then why do we blame the PFDJ supporters for taking the same measure with their retard.

    The thing that gets me about the Third Way is that they have another similarity with the YGists. The YGists believe that it was not enough for EPLF/PFDJ to deliver an independent Eritrea on the platter; it should also have delivered a country governed by rule of law. Since it hasn’t, we are under no obligation to recognize its achievements in bringing about an independent country. They consider the hard job of bringing about the country that we desire to be the job of somebody else, its never them. Similarly, with The Third Way, they consider the job of opposing injustice to be that of somebody else; they will just be arbiters, neutral observers rendering their verdict: PFDJ, bad; Opposition, worse. It is what I call a “trust-fund-baby syndrome”: to sit back and live off the fruits of another. They never assume responsibility for the failure of the movement to oppose authoritarianism–it is those guys fault. Apparently, there are different tiers of citizenship in Eritrea: those who take it personally and believe they have a duty to oppose authoritarianism and those who think their job is to assess those who do.

    They also disregard the most dynamic part of the opposition: the Eritrean civil society. The ones that have nothing to do with the Addis-based opposition: the media who raise consciousness; the human rights activists who fight every day with their meager resources; the youth groups; the women’s symposiums; the ex-EPLF fighters who have turned their back against their former colleagues.

    My personal view is that we are long overdue for an appraisal of our opposition. And an objective assessment of the Addis-based opposition would show (notwithstanding their intentions), that they have been disastrous to the cause of bringing justice to Eritrea. My personal view is that opposing entrenched authoritarians who are willing to do ANYTHING to stay in power is hard; and it becomes harder when there is no political space for it in Eritrea; it becomes exceedingly hard when the only country that is willing to host you is considered an enemy country by a substantial percentage of the population.

    As you know, in politics, a course of action is not measured by its rightness but by its practicality. What the Third Way is saying is that the approach the opposition has taken–by any means necessary, uproot the system–may be morally justifiable but it is impractical. On this point, I agree. They also, whether they know it or not, have accepted the prevailing test of what is considered a “just war.” As you know, our traditions/religions teach us what justifies resistence but the world (the secular world, the United Nations) has accepted the Roman Catholic Church’s definition of what makes a war just. I know you know this but, as a refresher, for a war to be just all of the following conditions must be met:

    1. All non-violent resistance must be exhausted;
    2. The damage being done by the totalitarian must be huge and lasting;
    3. The war must have a reasonable chance of success;
    4. The post war world you create must not be worse than the one you are trying to change.

    The Third Way are saying that non-violent resistance has not only not been exhausted; it has not even been tried (this is the EPDP argument); the claim that the totalitarian has inflicted irreversible damage is exaggerated; any war conducted to remove PFDJ does not have a reasonable chance of success; the post war Eritrea will be significantly worse than the one we have now.

    Those who disagree with The Third Way have an obligation to do more than just be outraged. They must rebut their points and be persuasive.

    All of you who pooh-pooh civil war and say that Eritrea will never have one; those of you who say that nothing worse than what we have could emerge are optimists. Optimism is not an argument.

    saay

    • Ismail

      You see this is exactly why I avoid the commentary section …..

      Thanks Saleh for the comments. I also have followed you over the years and have always marveled at your analytical skills and your in-depth knowledge of Eritrean politics.

      Actually, there is very little I disagree with the above. I am not one to apologize for the failings of the opposition. The core message of my article is that the core resistance must continue and that we should never kowtow to PFDJ As I also say in the article, we should seriously consider the possibility that our own attitudes may be acting as self-fulfilling. As you allude to above, the opposition is multi-faceted which opens possibilities that should be exploited by those who think they can do better. But don’t come to me to give some half-baked ideas that are actually worse or that call ingratiating to dictators. That is all I am saying..

      As for using the term defeatist, what else can we call someone who exonerates PFDJ by proposing that we should grant Isayas and PFDJ full and absolute immunity (Semere T) and another who considers it illegal not pay the 2% among a list of other “offenses” that all have to do with disobeying PFDJ dictates?

      For lack of time, I have to stop here (it is 5 – will resume tomorrow InshAllah). Meanwhile, here is an opinion from the foremost proponent of non-violence (Gene Sharp) on the issue.

      “Resistance, not negotiations, is essential for change in conflicts where fundamental issues are at stake. In nearly all cases, resistance must continue to drive dictators out of power.”

      Ismail (pointblank)

      • saay7

        Ismail:

        Can’t wait, do come back tomorrow. Your article argues “There are no shortcuts to struggle for freedom”: maybe not, but there is nothing that says that the struggle for freedom has to take the longest non-scenic route either:) It took Harbegna Weyanay 16 years (with TINY LITTLE HELP from ERITREA but HUSH!) to dislodge Derg from Ethiopia; it has taken the Eritrean opposition 16 years to practice Gam-Man:)) A gem-gam is in order.

        saay

        • haile

          haha … interesting comparison saay, 16 per Gam-Man vs total victory. Now look what the “defeatists” 🙂 arguing against, regime change and proposing another round of Gam-Man (in Sawa under Demhit instructors)…can it get worse?

          • saay7

            Hailat the Gr8:

            They are learning to be more articulate. “Regime change” is short-hand for “attempting to change the regime by waging Syria-style Libya-style war of carnage.” That is what they are opposing. Speaking of DMHT, In most of the dreaded examples the Third Way point to, the mercenaries and foreigners come during the civil war. What is scary for Eritrea is that they are ALREADY in Eritrea and will be a factor.

            saay

    • SA

      saay,

      An opponent of Ali Salim’s postion could re-write your last paragraph as:

      All of you who are worried about civil war and say that Eritrea will have one if PFDJ is uprooted; those of you who say that it could be worse than what we have are pessimists. Pessimism is not an argument.

      SA

      • saay7

        SA:

        Totally agree. That’s why people should debate. Moral outrage, shaking your cane, Koryelka alekhu, “how dare you!” are NOT arguments.

        saay

    • Ali-S

      SAAY,

      Fantastic as always. You have summarized our case better than any of us would ever hope for. You are and have always [at least most of the time] at the centre of the Third Way simply because you have consistently interacted with what the PFDJ does contrary to the opposition whose interaction is with the opposition [monologue].

      Ismail’s article was good but not his best. It is tough to say anything that makes sense when you are more interested in selling a flawed argument of things that we should take as given. Such as the fact you mentioned [implicitly] that the regime change idea necessarily goes through a civil war and that some Eritreans are well deserved to call for alternative routes that pass through a safer point. Or the fact that Ethiopia is a real concern to Eritreans at a time when its government is doing its best to choke us to death. I don’t think any two sensible people can argue that most of Ethiopia’s foreign policy towards Eritrea can be explained by vengefulness and hate than by valid differences with the PFDJ.

      I will ask you to consider a few points to complete the cycle:

      (1) Our call is not for an organization but for a movement in our way of thinking. I didn’t see the need for a “plan”. But if there is any part of opposition that has a potential to develop a concrete plan that works it is in the Third Way. At least we know who our enemy and our friends are and most Eritreans would agree with our finger pointing. Contrast this to those who have set Weyane as friend and PFDJ as enemy.

      Here we should take it slow as we go forward. Our plan is to delegitimize the traditional opposition of civil war promoters and transform towards sensible opposition thinking of people who care about Eritrea and its people. This is the stage when our concern is to make sure that we claim as much of the opposition camp as possible and ensure that every penny of Weyane’s investment in aborting the Eritrean dream is wasted. It is to make sure that we cash out of the regime change and civil war advocacy for good.

      Your concern is well premised in that we can do that by creating an alternative opposition discourse and nomination of issues of priority in both mobilization and action that would prove more effective in challenging the PFDJ. This is coming bit by bit but it is everyone’s responsibility to propose the same under the limiting conditions of positive engagement.

      (2) You mentioned that we have overlooked the civil society movement but feel free to suggest how to do it better. My opinion is that since the current civil society movement (including the internet media, human rights advocacy and refugee activism) is passively [submissively] mirroring the regime change and underlying civil war advocacy of the Ethiopia funded opposition, concentrating the movement of change on outlawing the Ethio-funded political opposition will trickle down to the civil society movement.

      (3) You were a little unfair when you repeated Ismail’s technique of drawing a parallel between the Andnet and the Third Way. The Andnet and the civil-war-opposition at least have one thing in common: Ethiopia. They have at least one common venue for their struggle: Ethiopia and its soup-kitchens. They have one source of funding: Weyane. Can you tell me where the PFDJ or a Third-Wayer would meet an Andnet? In the battlefield!

      Even if you meant an abstract association, it wouldn’t make sense. The Andnet exploit the weaknesses of the armed struggle in pieces and bits, to conclude that we shouldn’t have gone on it in the first place and we should abort its outcomes today because the Eritrean government was horrible all the way. The Third Wayers [to use Saba’s terminology] believe that the Eritrean revolution for independence was nothing less that perfection. We believe it is unfair to ignore the link between the initial motive of the struggle and the outcome of independence simply because some of the details in between were imperfect.

      We conclude that the post-independence experience in Eritrea was nothing less than perfect. Our concern is not because the Eritrean government and the PFDJ did more but because they did less. The glass is half full. Our opposition if that all Eritreans have done more than their part on duties of citizenship and they should all be proud, however, it is time now to find ways of balancing between the duties and rights of citizenship in a way that have the respect of human rights at its core.

      (4) If you think any of the forms of opposition or protests that took place inside Eritrea after independence by following morally legitimate forms of struggle, were legitimate, had a viable cause, and were worthy of respect for good reasons, then that is exactly what we are calling for. Regime change agenda and playing down the potential horrors of the possible civil war, should not be a condition for someone to call him/herself an opposition. It should on the other hand be sufficient cause for condemnation as irresponsible opposition with no purpose other than settling old scores.

      (5) I will save Saba a few minutes and remind you that the “cyber opposition” term is used only rhetorically to refer to an opposition that has nothing to offer, and a paper tiger on the net. I don’t think she meant a literal existence inside computer hardware (:-). She knows they have comfortable beds in enemy territory.

      (6) You also mentioned Medrekh. Listen to Ahmed Qeisi’s interview of their radio and you will find out that they do not in anyway belong to our camp. This is a group that seems to be bending and begging the Weyane for attention – an extreme case of bankruptcy! They can’t even explain why people would leave the ENCDC or the NDA or similar forums and seek their help. What they are trying to sell is the claim that they are connected to some general in the Eritrean army who may help them organize a coup. I hope that they are just bluffing.

      So Medrekh, unless they make a U-Turn, is potentially a dangerous gang that probably knows the easiest highway to the civil war that a lot of the opposition are dreaming to realize. Qeisi actually accepts this as OK and simply says “khesaratat kihilu iyu”.

      Hope it helps

      • saay7

        Whoa, Nelly!

        Ali, I think that sabbatical you took you used effectively to enroll at an online law school. Very impressive. If you use this kind of civility and making compelling arguments, I see The Third Way becoming more than a fad:) Now then:

        1. The “our friends/our enemies” is standard political programming. (refer to the political programs of ELF/EPLF/TPLF.) For the same reason that “diktaterawi srAt mlkawi Isaias” is boring to you (The Third Wayers), “demegna tselaena weyane” is mind-numbingly boring to many of us. I would advise you to stay clear of that: remember, no matter how RIGHT you think something is, if people consider it a BORE, you won’t make much headway. Define Eritrea’s enemies as poverty, instability, injustice, indignity, dishonor.

        (2) The Third Way is completely obsessed with defining Eritrean opposition (variously described as “the opposition”, “the so-called opposition”, “the Weyane-funded opposition”) by the EDA. The Eritrean opposition has moved on: I would say that 70% of the Eritrean opposition has nothing to do with EDA or the Addis-based opposition. They are the deer that has been shot but keeps running because it doesn’t know it is dead yet. I can understand why PFDJ defines opposition by the Addis-based ones (smart politics: so it can paint ALL opposition as sell-outs and unreliable when it comes to national security/national salvation); when The Third Way does it, it is pure and simple either (a) intellectual laziness or (b) over-eagerness to placate the PFDJ constituency or (c) subconscious acceptance of PFDJ Dictionary of Eritrean politics. If you guys are going to position yourself as the New Way, you have to think differently, speak differently, act differently.

        3. The similarity between the Neo-Andnet and The Third Way is that both have a sense of entitlement about who should do the heavy lifting. The Neo-Andnet believe that the Ghedli should have done everything and delivered things to them, all neat and bundled, so they can enjoy it. The Third Way believes that the dreaded opposition should be the one that resists tyranny. The opposition to tyranny is never referred as “we” but “they.” (Go ahead and search Semere Tesfai’s voluminous articles or Neo Ali Salim’s new ones.) The Neo-Andnet spend all their time removing the “Made in Eritrea” stamp on Eritrean ghedli (they are always describing it as something alien, Arab); The Third Way spends all its time removing the “Made in Eritrea” seal on the Eritrean opposition to tyranny (they are always describing it as something alien, foreign, Weyane, CIA, haluma jera.) I see a perfect parallel between the two in this regard. Remember, “opposition” is an incomplete description; it is “opposition to tyranny.” We are opposed to tyranny and if whoever replaces Isaias/PFDJ is a tyranny, we will remain opposed.

        (4) I support, and consider legitimate, all resistance to the PFDJ that took place inside Eritrea including and especially Forto 2013. That, in case you forget, was a coup attempt. It was a perfectly proportional response to an unyielding, unreasonable, totalitarian governance.

        (5) Our good friend Nitricc refers to us as “toothless opposition.” So Saba’s “cyber opposition” is I think meant to say that it has no real existence. Nitricc’s “toothless” is tough but fair: it is criticism of results. Saba’s “cyber opposition” is incomprehensible to me. But we will wait for her explanation.

        (6) Well, no, Medrekh does NOT belong to your camp, Thank God. They belong to MY camp:)) That is: remove the head and the body will wither or change camp. Understandably, they can’t put that on their mission statement. Your description of them as “bending* and begging Weyane” is a case of extreme overstatement. I will let you in on a secret: no Ghedli-era opposition (ELF or EPLF) is going to bend and beg Weyane. The EPLF, including former EPLF members, is organizationally/culturally incapable of begging Weyane. All the TPLF criticism of EPLF’s “chauvinism” is code for that: why the hell won’t you humble yourself! And Harbegna Weyane is exactly the same: within 6 years of their founding, they had declared war on ELF; within 8, they were not on speaking terms with EPLF. So you are talking dinosaurs here; the difference being the TPLF will continue to have diminished power within EPRDF whereas the EPLF is successfully transitioning the Agelglot into power positions. (the new leader of your beloved NUEYS is an agelglot.)

        So, dude, your constant references to “bending” and “prostrating” are tres uncool. That is Eri Political Speak circa 1999: time to retire it. The mantra should be: “no Eritrean left behind.” The country belongs to all of us, including those whom you dismiss as benders.

        saay

    • Ismail

      Ok…. Saleh…. where were we? …I am never going to forgive you for stealing my peaceful lunch time.

      I think you are stretching yourself a little to defend the PFDJ apologists because a lot of what you say above is actually a restatement of my views. Take for example, your reference to “our collective failure” or the shortcomings of the opposition. These are facts I readily acknowledge in the article. But even assuming your highly overblown enumeration of the opposition’s faults above, the question is where do we go from there? Are you blaming the leaders? If so, then by all means come and lead! Are you blaming the fragmentation? Then be the peace maker – teach them negotiation skills. If it is your view all the leaders in the opposition are incorrigible jerks, then be the opposition leader or organize to produce such a leader. If you can do neither, then you are as impotent as they and as likely to commit monumental errors as they are. Can you see my point?

      It is easy for you and I to engage in negative noise in cyberspace but by doing so we are exasperating the problem and causing further erosion of self-esteem in the opposition as a whole. The end result of such negativity is what is happening now: the proliferation of interest groups who all justify their emergence on the failures of the opposition. It also gives rise to all sorts of ill-conceived ideas (like the third way) whose only claim to originality is in how far-flung they are from others. You yourself above characterize the “third way” as without any cogent plan, yet you attempt to convey the notion that they are somehow for “dramatic changes”. This is untenable! What? Are they going to bring these changes out of thin air or shall we wait for their next release the “fourth way”? Do you see the incongruence there? And why do they all have to involve kowtowing to oppressors? It never works anyway…ask the G13/G15!That is why I think you are overexerting yourself to defend the PFDJ apologists. No. Saleh. None of our philosopher wannabes are careening towards PFDJ because they found a “scenic” or a better way. They simply gave up – pure and simple.

      As to my use of the term “defeatist”, why would you have an issue with it? A “defeatist” by definition is someone who accepts the prospect of defeat. Proclaiming unsolicited total immunity before the butcher-in-chief has even shown the slightest interest towards remorse (Semere T) or delegitimizing or outlawing every act not blessed by PFDJ (as Ali Salim does) is not only a clear sign of defeatism, it is positively wimpish!

      The crucial question again is: do you and I consider ourselves part of the opposition?

      If we do, then we are directly or indirectly responsible for the monumental blunders you allude to. We can’t just blame it on “Addis-based” opposition groups. Can we? And if we do not consider ourselves part of the opposition, why don’t we? Who is preventing us from acting as the deliverer Moses? Who is keeping us from showing the rest of Eritreans the golden “scenic” route or holding us back from forming a Calcutta-based opposition group or a London-based one that can do better? Or must all such roads entail ingratiating ourselves to oppressors and tyrants or apologizing for them?

      The meaning of the title of my article should not be confused with advocating that we do nothing. I never say anywhere in my article that we should never appraise the opposition nor do I say we do nothing or that we blindly follow the “Addis-based” opposition. As is evident from a careful reading of my article, I am postulating that freedom can only be won by hard work and struggle. If you or any other would-be genius can show us a “shortcut” that does not involve sucking up to an oppressive government, then I am all ears. If not, say it with me please ” there are no shortcuts to freedom. period! … only dreams/visions of shortcuts”.

      By the way, I never say anywhere in my article that we should never appraise the opposition nor do I say we do nothing or that we follow the “Addis-based” opposition.

      Ismail (pointblank)
      p.s. I won’t go into it here for lack of time but your definition of just war is incomplete …. perhaps you will correct it yourself?

      • saay7

        Selamat Ismail:

        I can’t have a full-fledged debate when you keep saying ኣብቲ ኣወል ቡንና ኣይተዕገርግሩና! I am tip-toeing here: ስክፍታ ቀቲልካናኮ 🙂 I will be quick:

        1. You know what enda hgdef say when you complain to them about their bad policies and worse execution? They say, “join us and struggle from within!” I see a bad habit developing within the opposition: anytime somebody criticizes the opposition, they are told, “Join them! Work from within! Improve them!” It is as if the right to criticize (to make observations) is dependent on one’s willingness to join. As a Sudanese man who went from the mosque straight to the bar once explained, “da berahu: weda berahu” (One of my dad’s favorite jokes. I would now like to take an intermission to say: wedaitkum tmtsae hgdef.)

        2. You know better than most that language promotes culture. The language you are using to describe people who disagree with you–defeatists, they gave up, wimpish–is quite dismissive really. One should not be pressured into quietly going along (Nkhid Tray) for fear of being labeled defeatists, wimpish, temberkhaki, demoralized, etc. Isn’t that one of the favorite tools of enda hgdef?

        3. Objective reality exists Irrespective of what Ali Salim, Semere Tesfai, saay or Ismail say. And the objective reality is that we in the Eritrean opposition (collectively) have had a dismal performance. If you think that is unkind, let’s say that our performance did not rise up to the level expected. This should not be said for the sake of self-flaggelation or as an excuse to give up, but to improve our performance. The challenge to Ali Salim, Semere, et al, should be, what precisely (1, 2, 3) would you like us in the opposition to do that you think would improve our effectiveness? I mean the only thing they (particularly Ali Salim) did was to package and market what they are selling under new wraps; otherwise, it is the same debate the Opposition has been having for the last 11 years. After they are done itemizing everything the opposition did wrong, they can tell us what the opposition can do to correct its policies and practices.

        4. Would love to hear your definition of the Just War Doctrine. What did I leave out?

        saay

        • Ismail

          Selamat Saleh!

          About my using words such as “defeatist” and “wimpish”….
          These are nothing but words I used to express my outrage at those that to my mind are confusing the uninitiated and the naive. Expressing oneself using such strong words is nothing unusual in politics. It is a common practice for rival political opponents to engage in a heated exchange where they use strong words to make a point particularly in countries where the democratic spirit is high. The disputants then might go for a friendly chat over lunch. In other words, use of such epithets used within an argumentative framework and after giving a rational refutation falls within acceptable norms of political discourse. It would therefore be immature and amateurish to take them personally. Ali Salim and Semere T to their credit seem to have taken it in that spirit.

          Deliberate slander and defamation is of course a totally different thing. In all the years I have been writing, I have never resorted to it even under extreme provocation I was subjected to (this included deliberate slander, defamation, and even death threats). I think you and many others can attest to it.

          As to PFDJ also using the line “”join us and struggle from within”, shouldn’t my answer to that be obvious? Why stop at PFDJ? The Mafioso would also want us to join them and to struggle from within as would any satanic cult. PFDJ supporters’ call to join them to struggle from within is disingenuous anyway since one could lose one’s life with any such attempt. PFDJ is a dictatorship where it is impossible to struggle from within while the opposition is a loose coalition with no powers whatsoever to enforce anything. As you can see, the argument is specious.

          Making such a call makes sense only when the caller and the invitee are both in agreement broadly. PFDJ and the opposition have irreconcilable differences at the most fundamental level. So the comparison is inaccurate in that sense also.

          You also missed the point I was making (perhaps my fault for not making it clear). I was providing you with all the possible choices you can make to show us that you can do better. 1) join existing opposition groups 2) form your own organization – that is what I meant by “organize to produce such a leader” and a “Calcutta based” group. Though my preference is to have one united opposition group, I would rather have you form your own group than humiliate yourself in front of an oppressor. That is why I specifically asked you if you consider yourself an opposition before presenting you with these options because otherwise, none of these would apply to you.

          As to the just war doctrine, I will have more to say at a later time InshAllah (perhaps in an article) but briefly, the 4 you listed are from the Catechism of the Catholic Church. Most theorists list them as six (just cause, legitimate authority, right intention, necessity or last resort, proportionality and reasonable hope of success) for Jus ad bellum (when to resort to war) and 3 for the conduct of war (jus in bello) namely discrimination, necessity or minimal force. Proportionality is repeated in the later. So your summary was textually accurate but incomplete. The 2nd point is that the main focus of the theory is on states and especially on wars between states. So it is contextually incomplete also.

          The doctrine having evolved from a time when the people believed in the “divine right” of rulers has many drawbacks. Academicians have noted a lot of problems with the theory particularly in its neglect of the question of tyrants and recently on the case of terrorism. For this and for a lot of other reasons, the theory is now as good (or as bad) as the 1997 Eritrean constitution. It is exploited and still enshrined in International laws and other documents as you indicated but only as black ink on white. In practice, it proved unenforceable evenhandedly.

          But even if we consider the four principles you listed to be valid, their subjectivity makes proper implementation difficult. Let us go through them:

          1. “The damage inflicted by the aggressor on the nation or community of nations must be lasting, grave, and certain; ”

          I am sure we all agree on this. So I am not even to waste time on it. Let me know if you disagree.

          2. “All other means of putting an end to it must have been shown to be impractical or ineffective; ”
          This is of course a judgment call as you can probably tell. This is a broad topic but considering that all the usual mechanisms for struggling peacefully have been denied us, it certain meets the criteria. How are Eritreans going to struggle non-violently when they can’t even assemble, write, or even organize freely? Have we forgotten what happend to those who tried like the G13/G15 who asked for “correction” or the MaiHaber incident to name just a few. Isayas may be bad at many things but is an expert at stamping down any non-violent activity.

          3. “There must be serious prospects of success;”
          Again, this is also clearly a subjective judgment call since one cannot conclusively prove it one way or the other. But if you consider how our struggle for independence might have looked to outsiders observing Awate and his handful ragtag army, you will probably be convinced right away that this criteria is problematic and even useless.

          4.” The use of arms must not produce evils and disorders graver than the evil to be eliminated. The power of modern means of destruction weighs very heavily in evaluating this condition. ”
          This is even worse as it calls for predictive certainty of an unknown and unknowable future consequence of our actions that time and again have made liars out of the most seasoned of politicians and social experts. If this criterion had been used during World War II for example, Hitler who appeared totally invincible then might have triumphed as many would have judged him capable of wrathful revenge of great magnitude on anyone or any nation defied him – a perception that prompted Churchill to warn his compatriots that he has nothing to offer but “blood, toil, tears and sweat. We have before us an ordeal of the most grievous kind. We have before us many, many long months of struggle and of suffering.” He added that he is for “Victory in spite of all terror—Victory, however long and hard the road may be, for without victory there is no survival.” Again, I may have more on this at a later time but I hope you can see that this theory suffers from some grave defects for its impracticality and subjectivity.

          That is why practically no one takes it seriously these days. It is a theory that each party or thinker exploits for own purpose. Even aggressors in the very act of agression shamefacedly appeal to it as US for example did with respect to its invasion of Panama by calling it “Operation Just cause”. Colin Power joked about it by saying that he was pleased with the name because “even our severest critics would have to utter ‘Just Cause’ while denouncing us.” In contrast, Jimmy Carter appealed to it for a difference reason when he declared the US invasion of Iraq in 2003 was a violation of the theory.

          I know you are acting as a devil’s advocate …
          Ismail (pointblank)

          • saay7

            Selamat Ismail:

            Can’t wait for your article on just law doctrine and how it applies in the relationship between the individual and the state. When should the right to self-defense be invoked? Yes, you are right, the Just Law Doctrine I citied, which traces its origin to the Roman Catholic Church, has been supplanted, but not by much. I was actually referencing A “Modern Theory of Just War: Just and Unjust Wars by Michael Walzer.

            The clearest language I have seen on this issue is in Dr. Martin Luther Kings “Letter from Bimingham Jail.” (Now mandatory reading for either high school or college students.) To highlight the difference between law and morality, this is what he wrote:

            {{We can never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was”legal” and everything the Hungarian freedom fighters did in Hungary was “illegal.” It was “illegal” to aid and comfort a Jew in Hitler’s Germany. But I am sure that, if I had lived in Germany during that time, I would have aided and comforted my Jewish brothers even though it was illegal. If I lived in a communist country today where certain principles dear to the Christian faith are suppressed, I believe I would openly advocate disobeying these anti-religious laws.}}

            saay

          • Ismail

            Thanks Saleh but I am not promising anything.
            Ismail (pointblank)

          • Ali-S

            Ismail,
            All respect for you and thanks for enlightening us on this.
            But just two questions for you:
            Should actual action by those going to war determine what those principles should mean on the ground, or should those principles determine whether they should go to war in the first place?
            You don’t think the word “subjective” in interpretation in these cases may not mean “determined at whim – 3ala mezajna”, but presumes some prudence and the assumption that those making the decision are responsible people who care and would make sure to watch against the dangers of total “subjectivity”?
            One point you might be missing is that those principles are not meant to be seen as constraints [with negative connotations] of when you are allowed to go to war or may get away with doing war and destroying lives. They are supposed to be constraints [with very positive connotations] that will ensure that irresponsible and reckless politicians do not torch people’s lives. That is why they belong in “law” because the spirit law is motivated by the noble cause of protecting people, not with the mean purpose of making life miserable for criminals.

          • Ismail

            Selamat Ali S. You are a very intelligent and articulate person and I picture you as a person of great enthusiasm for a cause. If I detect any faults, it is in the latter which if not kept in check will lead you from the ‘Third way” into the arms of a dictator.
            Thanks for your feedback.
            Ismail (pointblank)

  • Ismail

    Thanks Kokhob! ኣበይ ከ ቀነኻ?.

    I have been here Kokhob…. just busy sometimes. I intentionally avoid the comments section because it can be time consuming. Unlike the dehai years, I now have a family to look after among other things. Though I can’t promise, from now on, I will try to devote some time to the lively and sometimes educational chats that go on at awate.

    By the way, I sent the below comment earlier…. I think it didn’t go through… hopefully this one will..

    Thanks Kokhob!. What a beautiful poem! What took me several pages to write, you did it in a few paragraphs (only more beautifully!) … You are very talented Kokhob…. keep it up!

    ኣይፋል! ኣይፋል!

    Ismail (pointblank)

  • Ismail

    What a profound commentary…. Thanks Dawit for so graciously eating the garbage I put out.
    Ismail (pointblank)

  • haile

    Selamat Ismail

    The realization of the following fact that you captured elequently:

    “We must also constantly keep in mind that a dictatorship’s
    destructiveness is not confined to the political sphere alone.
    Economically, it rapidly and unremittingly drains the nation’s
    resources; intellectually, it stifles creativity and the pursuit of
    knowledge; socially, it unilaterally imposes norms and rules of conduct;
    diplomatically, it ignites wars and cataclysms. It is an ongoing
    disaster in every way and from every angle. Let us therefore say No to dictatorship! No to PFDJ sycophants/apologists! No to unionists!”

    …is what made me to finally do away with criticizing those in opposition to the diabolical regime. Its existance exacts damaging cost to the nation and and its people. Anyone fighting it by any means necessary would be limitting these critical damage. Therefore to oppose the opposition is either done for selfish reasons of self agrandizment or in agency of the regime itself. The key fact that those engaged in such acts must remember is however that what you said on my qoute above is rendering the syste they defend to be incapable of self sustainance and hence they are only wasting in vain.

    Thank you again
    Haile

    • Guest

      A man of million contradictions:

      First you said :

      “…is what made me to finally do away with criticizing those in opposition to the diabolical regime.”

      Then

      “Therefore to oppose the opposition is either done for selfish reasons of self agrandizment or in agency of the regime itself.”

      Would you care to tell us what were your “..selfish reasons of self agrandizment” and also the nature of your association with “..agency of the regime itself ” & the crimes you commited (As you never stop preaching the regime is criminal), right before you flipped and “finally do away with criticizing those in opposition”, not in the distance past?
      No criticizing the opposition whatsoever, did you say? That is not brilliant, not brilliant at all….

    • Ismail

      Well said Haile …. thanks for your feedback. Yes. I think the problem is that we have made it a habit of distancing ourselves from the opposition instead of owning our problems and keep working at solving issues without engaging in too much idle talk.
      Ismail (pointblank)

  • Papillonn

    ሃለዉለው ኣብዚሕካ መጠን ግበረሉ

    • dawit

      ሓቂ መራር እያ

  • Saba

    1. You have dedicated too much to the unionists which does not exist in reality other than some vocalist individuals.
    2. You consider your cyber opposition as the right path. So even though it is weak and failed, your long struggle is to revive it. But your cyber opposition is empty, run by corrupt individuals who are against the principle of democracy, It is rejected by the public.
    3. In the last 2 years, the topic has moved slowly from the cyber opposition to the third way. For most individuals that belong to the cyber opposition, rehab and recovery will take a longer time, with high rate of relapse. The third way will be a democratic way and it will be embraced by the public.So your long struggle should be in the third way if you are not living in the past, the ELF/EPLF fight. That should be for the history books, not our future.

    • Ismail

      Saba…

      1. But the point is whatever their numbers, the “unionists” exist and as I indicated in my response to Semere “I never meant to create the impression that I consider them of equal importance. My intention was to highlight the extremes people will go when they lose hope.”

      2. Yes, I consider opposition to PFJD the right path even if it is weak and has failed before. I will ignore the rest as unsubstantiated slanderous remark.

      3. You surprise me there…. and I thought the inventor and owner of the third way was Ali Salim! No. The third way is likely to remain as inconsequential as those of the unionists. The third way is not democratic. It is a call for surrender… it is a call for ingratiating ourselves to dictators and tyrants.

      thanks for your feedback…..

      Ismail (pointblank)

  • dawit

    “There Are No Shortcuts To Struggle for Freedom!”. What a brilliant idea by Ismail Omer-Ali. How were you able to discover this and now trying to teach the ‘ignorant’ Eritrean people who have struggled for centuries to achieve their freedom by paying untold sacrifices of blood and sweat! You discovery of “Panicky” and the “Resolute” is also amazing, how long did you pray and fast to discover?. Who is the Panicky and who is the Resolute in today Eritrean political landscape?
    I am sorry to say this brother Ismail you lack one important ingredient, i.e. Eritrean history, which made your brilliant idea built on air. Take your time and learn some facts about Eritrea and its people, then you can write some solid staff. You just wasted your time writing a garbage and your readers time reading it and not to mention a scarce cyber space.

    Peace.

  • Ali-S

    Ismail,

    Good to see you back. I must say it is an absolutely brilliant article as House of Stark said in the comments. I agree with your analysis and I respect your choice that it is OK to go through some chaos (which I believe is your shy way of saying “civil war”) as the price of liberty. That is the brand we called the Second Way which is the other side of the coin of the PFDJ’s policy of rejection of the other.

    It is the same old mentality of the era of the armed struggle that the field cannot hold more than one organization. In your attempt to prove that civil war is unlikely in Eritrea, you seemed to skip the most horrible part of the armed struggle. I wouldn’t understand why you thought reminding people that the road to the opposition’s struggle to change will necessarily pass through a civil war was scaremongering. That was the conclusion that you yourself made.

    But I think you are on the positive side since you at least recognized that a civil war is inevitable and people should brace for it although you stated that you would not predict with certainty that it would not be any less than that in Syria.

    My question to you is: if I convince you that the civil war we will have under the stubborn Regime Change Agenda will actually be like that of Syria if not worse, would you still think it is OK to accept that as justifiable by what we might get in exchange? You may not realize it but you have already made a U-Turn, if your condition is that the civil war we should go through must be minimal chaos like the one in Egypt. You will complete the U-Turn if you take my word and convince yourself that it is safer to make your calculations under the assumption of worst-case scenarios. This will minimize the risks due to factors that you might not have considered such as the whole possibility of Ethiopia having a hidden agenda that you almost skipped by reassurances that no one can ever prove.

    The Third Way proposed here is not a departure from the opposition agenda but a reaffirmation of it. The departure is where the Weyane-funded opposition have ended up with. I think you belong with us Ismail, it is better to be blunt and save our opposition icons from staining their outstanding history of struggle with associations with the dark cloud that is hovering and imminent. The reason most of them ended up in Ethiopia was because they wouldn’t know better and the fell into the hands of a few dishonest Eritreans. Believe me you cannot sell two things as a combo: a bright future that an Ethiopian regime may get into Eritrea.

    You may not take it seriously but surprisingly the only way to challenge the PFDJ is to challenge it on the details of its policies and practices not on the totality. Totalizing the conception of the PFDJ as evil, only serves as a blanket where the whole legitimate opposition agenda may be shielded. It is a license promising the PFDJ that you would not challenge their daily practice and wait only for history to judge its performance. The only way the have the legitimacy to deal with the details is drop the totalizing assumption of evil.

    If we manage to catch the situation before we have a major civil war at hand, there is a whole field of conflict prevention and management that may prove helpful in guiding our actions.

    • Semere Andom

      Hi Ali Salim:
      Also Papillon:
      This article is refreshing and Ismail is an expert on the deception of dictators. He has written on the subject for at least a decade.

      But in this article he lumped the dangers that the neo-andnet and the exonerators of pfdj pose to our nation. The first one no matter how vocal,they do not pose any danger to our unity or sovereignty as the Eritrean people unambiguously asserted their rejection to the union. This notion does not trick even those born yesterday into an Eritrean family as a genuinely free Eritrea seems to have been ingrained in the DNA of every Eritrean. But the sanitizers and exonerators as Ismail calls them pose grave danger to our nation and the fabric of our unity as the chief cause of these two maladies is pfdj and trying to salvage this regime by fear mongering and unfounded and perceived future civil strife is not original, not that every idea should be original to be effective, but it is to say that this fear mongering is from the play book of every dictator. Eritreans must be weary of this late bloomers to the idea of fear mongering as it takes the onus from pfdj and puts it on the people and once you take the onus out of pfdj you take the focus off the pfdj and induce the proverbial “hashewiye”

      Ismail is wrong in equating the dangers of the so called new unionist to the sanitizers of the pfdj crimes. It is not because the unionist are less dangerous at heart, but it I because Eritreans are confident about their choice and will not be fall for a union they have rejected, this fact even Isaias could not touch with 6 feet pole. But because Eritreans are very protective of their darling, scaring them with civil war may force them to embrace the pfjd, the evil they know instead of the angel they have yet to meet.

      Here are the question that the sanitizers need to ask their pfdj handlers, real or virtual:-)

      1. Will the pfdj unconditionally release all political prisoners and account the details of those killed and take responsibility?

      2. Will the pfdj admit is abuses and apologize to the Eritrean people and promise to work to save the nation from the gloomy future that they have architected?
      3. Will the pfdj eradicate the notorious special court?
      4.Will pfdj account for all the poor people it has killed and imprisoned under false jihad allegation and tells us those it murdered and buried in unmarked mass graves.
      5.Will pfdj implement the still born document authored in 1997 immediately?

      The list is endless, if the handlers can guarantee you this, I will guarantee you that there will be no civil war?
      And for this pfdj criminals will not be prosecuted, a win-win situation where they can redeem themselves, save the nation and will be free to write books about their heroic wars in all the “tababat” in Sahel
      You are putting the onus on the opposition, who has no power, who are snoring on the wheels, who are in Ethiopia. The government has the power and wherewithal to extend the olive branch and hint its intentions. The government has not even acknowledged that there are opposition, they have not even admitted that Eritrea in danger, let alone admitting that their policies are to blame. Your theories are mere intellectual masturbations and your agonizing turn meaningless if you cannot provide possibilities that there are rooms where pfdj can be reformed and you cannot show any faint desire to do so. So far all indications are that it their way or the Somalia way.
      Also your concept of the government detail policies are fallacious because you insinuating as if the devil (pfdj”) is in the detail.
      Your defence of the so called government policies is merely based on their building roads, schools and only body trying to improve the lives of the people. But all cruel colonizers: the Dergi, Haileslelssie, Italians and British all did the same.
      Sem

      • Papillonn

        Dear Sem,

        If and only if a Unionist tendency is to take root, it will be in post-Isaias Eritrea when the aspirations and visions that we all fighting for fails. To be more precise, Union as a political platform is not only irrelevant, it is meaningless as well. It is anachronistic in terms for it was a product of a different political atmosphere. The reason we find ourselves in a dire situation is not because of inability to live independently as a nation, rather it is because we find ourselves under a cruel tyranny, a tyranny who has taken an advantage of our immaculate trust. The solution is deceptively simple: it is not a second, third or a fourth way; it is not reforming PFDJ; it is a one way– uprooting Isaias and PFDJ.

        I don’t pretend to be an expert in crisis management, neither do I claim to be a sociologist or a historian, but if common sense is to prevail, given all the factors at play or the factors that have shaped up present day Eritrea, Eritrea is the last nation on Earth to be inflicted with the maladies of civil war. Simply because, our unity is not only our fierce belief in independence, it is also our uncompromising allegiance to the blood and sweat of the sons and daughters who gave their precious lives for an independent Eritrea. One of the cardinal reasons the Eritrean people are enduring the wrath of the tyrant is not because of lack of resolve, it is precisely because of taking the tyrant for a product of a generation that has left an enduring legacy in heralding an independent Eritrea. But of course, that perception is thinning out and the time has come to separate the wheat from the chaff.

        Haft’kha.

        • ghezaehagos

          Selam Sem and Papillon,
          Dearest Papillon, that was a brilliant, brilliant commentary. Zeroing in our focus at the despotic Issaias regime is the best way to go. No matter the past and its endless tributaries or tomorrow and its twists, we, TODAY, are confronted with a major case of complete annihilation: the tyranny of Isaias Afewerki. Attention must be paid, to such a person, to paraphrase the death of salesman…
          All the best,
          Ghezae Hagos

          • Papillonn

            Dearest Ghezae,

            If anything, the very person who first introduced a Neo-And’net sprinkle onto the knot between Eritrea and Ethiopia is Isaias himself when he in the mid 90s said that the border will lose its meaning at some point as the two nations share a common history and destiny as well. But of course, the very people who are in a frenzy of accusing people of an And’net tendency were busy cheering him on where for all practical purposes no one to this day is advocating unequivocally for a Union with Ethiopia. Individuals who are otherwise savant can not possibly mobilize the people for a common cause in a bid to defeat tyranny when their mind is still stuck in the “Amharas burnt our villages and Tigreans stubbed us in the back” erratic grudges where it is keeping them from seeing the grave situation with clarity. Moreover, when people talk about high-ways, low-ways, mid-ways, two-ways, three-ways or no-ways, they are giving Isaias the legitimacy he doesn’t deserve. Eritrea is a sovereign nation; Eritreans are sovereign people. Isaias and his clique are illegitimate. Isaias doesn’t run a government, he runs an organized cartel. Isaias is a lumpen with no culture or compunction what so ever as such there shouldn’t be any need to over think a strategy in a bid to remove him. The deceptively simple and only way to remove Isaias is to mobilize the people under the sole truth–the only enemy of the Eritrean people is the tyrant himself. A tyrant who has taken away the dignity and pride of the people.

            Haft’kha.

          • Ali-S

            Sem, Papillonn and Gezae,

            I love your comments as always. The beauty in what you say appears in the irony of good Eritreans trying to shove things they obviously do not believe in.

            Sem:

            PFDJ will do none of what you asked in your list. But does that give you a licence to turn your back from trying to make them do the list? None of the opposition organizations can be seriously see as trying to pressure the PFDJ to do any of those in your list. According to the opposition, all the victims associated with the things in your list will have to wait inside the dungeons until the PFDJ is uprooted and a democratic regime of the opposition is in place. Our argument here is that opposition is about details of what happens in Eritrea every day not about miracles that happen every century. I know you understand all that, but why make me give you a lecture on what you already know?

            Papillonn:

            My dear sister if that is a nickname please change for one that is easy to spell. Or is that a Weyane agenda to drive us crazy trying to spell (:-). I love the confidence you expressed in showing that Eritreans will never go to a civil war because they are “hade hizbi hade libi”. I agree with you completely and I don’t know any Eritrean who would disagree. But do you think any responsible government or opposition should take what you promised [with confidence] at face value and use the claim to design public policy. I hope I am not disrespecting but I think it has a bit of immaturity [just a little bit].

            Gezae:

            Good idea too. You want to remove one guy from among hundreds of thousands and you are trying to convince us, it will make a difference. Doing that doesn’t need “opposition”. Here is how I did it: pick any “ri’esi tanika” for an alternative to the president and make a wish. Give it a try. I tried it and ended up with Fillipos, and in a second try with Tekle Manjus. Should I go ahead a wave the wand into reality?

          • Papillonn

            Dear Ali Salim,

            It is a nickname and it was taken from the title of my one of my fav movies. If you’re a movie buff I highly recommend it. But of course the book is better. Back to the real deal….The Eritrean issue is an issue of a single personality: Isaias Afwerki. He is the nerve-center or CPU as in in a hardware. Once he is gone the entire PFDJ edifice and his foot shoulders in his multi-billion dollar cartel crumbles like the proverbial house of cards. No personality after him will have an iron clad control on the Eritrean people. Isaias is a brilliant-evil person. In his early years, he fostered a clarion understanding about the “weakness” of the Eritrean people. That is, he manipulated their immaculate thrust on him and he rode on it to its fullest. When the Eritrean people used their kind hearts for a thinking organ, he used his brain not for thinking but for building a system that has absolutely nothing to do with the noble ideals of freedom, liberty, peaceful existence and prosperity inter alia.

            I have read your otherwise eloquent articles over the years and what I have gathered is that, you have a morbid fear of the Weyanes. I wouldn’t say it is pathological but it could as well be obsessive. But one crucial thing you seem to over look is that, the Weyanes– no matter what intentions they harbour towards the Eritrean people, they clearly know one crucial thing, that is, if they intend to cause harm on or to the Eritrean people, it becomes a catalyst for unity of the people. The reason their unity gets shaky towards Isaias is simply because he is eating them up from with in. And he is not an outside force if I have to state the obvious. By the same token and logic, the only time a civil war can break out in Eritrea is when Isaias is still in power not after he is gone for the grand scheme and strategy to divide the people will have disappeared in to oblivion.

            Haft’kha.

          • House of Stark

            dear Papillon
            amen.
            thanks, for the wonderful comment.

      • Ismail

        Selamat Semere,
        I agree with you. In fact, if you read my previous posts on the subject, I have dismissed the unionists as inconsequential but however small, I think we should not totally ignore the phenomenon. YG as you know is a skilled writer and a charismatic speaker who may influence a few here and there. He is intimately familiar with Eritrean politics and his diagnosis of the ills are often very accurate. This is what initially draws those few to him who are then caught unawares into his proposals. But even if we can guarantee his proposals will go nowhere (as I do), he can create confusion and despondency.
        I never meant to create the impression that I consider them of equal importance however. My intention was to highlight the extremes people will go when they lose hope. When people are frustrated, they tend to grab at straws or at anything or anyone who pretends to know or to have the solution. That is the point I was trying to get across. I should have made that clear. Thanks for pointing it out and for your excellent comments.
        Ismail (pointblank)

    • Ismail

      Ali Salim … You are never at a lose for words. Are you? First though thanks for the nice words you say at the beginning……

      I actually revised my article several times to soften it a little bit because I was so totally taken aback by the views you expressed in those articles that I just felt like clobbering you over the head to drum some sense into it. I restrained myself because it would as illegal as not paying my 2% or as wishing for a regime change.. .right?

      As I read one article after another, I kept hoping to see an article to recant it all with … “hey guys I was just kidding.” … that didn’t happen. Instead, you kept piling one article over article constructing this ill-conceived monstrosity that you call “third way” which is essentially a call to accept PFJD warts and all. Time permitting, I may have more to say in an article. But for now, let me answer some of your questions above:

      First, no where in my article do I ever say that “a civil war is inevitable”

  • Papillonn

    Dear Ismail,

    As you have aptly put it, a road can only be made by walking. The struggle against tyranny is not an exception either. People do not seem to comprehend the gravity of the present predicament Eritrea not as a nation per se but Eritreans as a people find themselves in. I sure am not pointing from the side-walk for I am part and parcel not only of the Eritrean psych but a citizen as well. Fear, capitulation, timidity and sheer hopelessness more often are refugees of the intellect where the said defeatist manifestations are camouflaged in a seemingly articulated “argument” (read: the exponents of the Third Way or Reforming PFDJ) where in a sharp contrast one finds hope and an invigorated spirit when one reads your resolute mind and a steeled determination to keep pressing on when prostration seems to be the norm of the day.

    If a malignant neoplasm is eating a being away, there is no room for an alternative solution. The only and sole solution is to root out the cancer in its entirety. Drawing a parallel between a neoplasm and the tyrant in Eritrea is tantamount to fostering a soft heart for the latter simply because, the tyrant is far worse than a high grade killer cancer. Weyane is an enemy only in a schizophrenic mind. The West is an enemy only in a schizophrenic mind. The only enemy in a sane mind is Isaias Afewerki. As such, the evil tyrant ought to be removed by any means necessary.

    Haft’kha.

    • Ermias

      Papillon, yes indeed by any means necessary. Here is an excerpt from YG in 2010:

      “Among the opposition’s doing, the most harmful thing to Eritrea has been having its current predicament identified as a political rather than existential crisis. Once misdiagnosed as a political crisis, all try to find a political solution that invariably bypasses urgent issues of survival that has little to do with politics. The reason why most Eritreans in the opposition put undue focus on the “democracy project” – creating political parties, pushing for “unity” among parties, flirting with government-in-exile, discussing on what type of democratic government is suitable to Eritrea, rallying around the constitution or amending it or condemning it, strengthening democratic institutions in Diaspora, instilling democratic culture among youth organizations, advocating for free media and other democratic rights, conducting conferences and symposiums promoting democracy, writing endless papers on the virtue of democracy, etc – for providing a solution to the current crisis of existence primarily comes from this flawed understanding.

      Both the regime’s supporters and most of its detractors have this “patriotic” tendency to criminally bypass the people’s existential predicament in order to achieve some higher “national” goal; all said and done, of course, in the name of the masses. The supporters of the regime are infamously known for prioritizing land over people. All their incessant cries for “security of the nation first” have nothing to do with providing security to the people. If anything, Eritreans are more insecure now than ever – both from inside and outside. In a similar fashion, much of the opposition has been prioritizing democracy over people. The democracy proponents’ credo says it all: “The only change worth having is that of democracy” Notice the exhaustive either/or logic under which they have been working: either a regime change that ushers democracy or no regime change at all, thereby implicitly settling for the current regime to occupy the default position until they come up with a democratic solution. Given that a tailor-made change exact to their democratic specifications cannot be guaranteed ahead of time, their suicidal go-slow approach is only understandable. In both cases, however disparate they may seem in the “higher” goals they want to achieve, it is the same nationalistic drive that prioritizes ghedli-conceived “Eritrea” over the masses that explains their respective stands. In the latter case, the snail-paced, incremental pressure on the regime that they advocate is meant to assure no unexpected eventualities that may jeopardize that dream. In the meantime, both are willing to let the masses take all the beating they could, if that is what it takes to preserve the fragile “Eritrea” they harbor in their heads.”

      • Papillonn

        Dear Ermias,

        I absolutely agree. I sure have some reservations with YG’s take particularly on the genesis and imperatives of Gedli but I find myself on the same wavelength as the clear and present danger hoovering on the clouds of Eritrea is not the lack of democracy and all the ideals in its bandwagon rather it is as he brilliantly put it a question of existence. The main force of the existential angst is not however the perceived ensuing “Civil War” rather it is the tyrant himself who is hemorrhaging the nation of its vital signs (read: the younger generation).

        Haft’kha.

    • Ali-S

      Papillonn Hafti,

      You make very good points. These were the exact same points that the opposition activists in Syria used to make before the current civil war. If Syrians had an opportunity to go back and read those same points, what do you think they would think of the people who used to push them.

      My guess is that they would think of them as irresponsible scams who didn’t care. What would you think if you were a Syrian woman in the middle of the mess?

      Here we are not in such a situation yet. Wouldn’t it be wise and try to find ways that evade a civil war?

      • Hope

        Ali,
        I think people know what they are talking about.Rather than talking about a peaceful transition, they are wishing us a Middle East style of Transition—and that is exactly what the Weyanes officially declared per the wikileakes doumentation.
        I am not sure about these people.
        That is why I am feeling uncomfortable about this debate.
        Are we being hijacked here?

        • Ali-S

          Hope,

          I know what you are saying. Don’t give up because I think Doc Saba was right in invoking the Chrini conversation we are destined to have: you talk to them about this and they respond to that. They can’t see straight.

          But Pappillion: can we have any guarantees that this (Eritrea) will not end up becoming like that (Syria). Is there some Ethiopian peacekeeping force that will be deployed?

          • Papillonn

            Ali Salim,

            I say this respectfully, you’re not thinking right. And I tend not to take you serious. Simply because, you seem to fear and worry more about the bogyman (read: Weyanes) than the tyrant in Eritrea.

          • hope

            That is exactly what the wiklleaks is talking about:
            A-4-step plan:
            Step ONE: Create chaos by our agents(opposition in Asmara)–Arbi Harnet Robotic calls,Arab Spring Style chaos—and others included in this plan/project
            Step TWO:Our agents will call us for help(Somali War Lords Style)
            Step THREE: We will step in(Weyanes)
            Step FOUR: Place a friendly government and stabilze and exit(after they got what they want).
            This is exactly what it says in Wikileakes based on the conversation between the US Amb to Ethiopia(Mr. Yammato? and Gen Mesfin of Ethiopia.
            Mind you, all these were tried but to NO AVAIL,thank God!!!God loves very much Eritrea and Eritreans to that extent and a very good Pentecostal friend of mine/warsay–reassured me with these words of HOPE,saying: ” Do NOT worry,my brother,Eritrea and Eritreans are under God’s continous watch and Eritrea and Eritreans will prevail,at last”!!
            Amen, YES, Eritrea will prevail,at last as history is the PROOF!
            Let the public judge now.

          • Papillonn

            Hope,

            I am sure Isaias has more respect for his enemies than pathetic supporters like you. What a pity!

          • SM

            Anti sebeiti zeitetsahfe aitenbibi.
            I care less about PIA and his respect.
            Read what is written.I am talking about the real threats,not about supporting PIA.
            You and your alikes are endorsing the Weyanes 4-step plan and you are caught with your pants down,hence , you are swimming in chebrekrek, to use Kokhob Selams’ expression.
            There is no room for chebrekrek in Eritrea’s business
            As an Eritrean,I do NOT believe in political prostitution.
            DIA days are short and we have to debate about a better exit.
            I have no clue as to who you are and your honey covered Ere is NOT going to sway me away from my stand.

          • Papillonn

            You’re confused. And it seems contagious. ኣይታሓዘልካን’ዩ

          • sm

            Mi ‘enti dekikhinin Mi’enti ri’ischin De ‘ a bikhiya ember Mi’entaysi aitibkeya.
            Weyo neti natensi ni’endamaten.
            My stand and my vision are clear and I do not buy any other body’s idea as I have my own.
            Keep yours to yourself.
            We are Eritreans,who survived against all odds under the Sun and it is just a matter of time…just few yrs.. and we will be more than Singapore…

          • Abinet

            You are extremely talented in playing a victim and a victor at the same time .Ethiopia is not your enemy. If as you have just told us the four step plan failed , then what are you worried about? Specially since your Pentecostal friend assured you that every thing is going to be alright , you shouldn’t be worried at all.
            Btw , didn’t your orthodox president tell you the same thing? He even told you that Eritrea is going to be like Singapore or Japan or……
            Do you still believe him? I am not saying that Eritrea can not achieve like those countries .first you have to figure out your real enemy. Again , we are not your enemy.

          • sm

            Just mind your business and do your home work;man.
            Saiterut abiyet,sailikut wediet.

          • Abinet

            Translation please. Don’t assume everyone speaks tgrigna

          • dawit

            That was not tirigna, it is amarigna! lost your mother tong? You claimed “Ethiopia is not your enemy”. WAW! what do you call a neighbor who sells you for Italians for few lires and old guns? What do you call a country who sabotaged your independence at UN? What do you call colonizer that destroyed u=your villages, massacre your mothers and children? What do you call a neighbor that you lifted from the dirt and helped him to stand and walk on its feet betrayed you ignite a border war? What do you call a neighbor that occupy your land illegally by force and refuse to vacate? what do you call a neighbor who collaborate with others to put you under UN sanctions? In my definition Ethiopia is a historic enemy of Eritrea.

          • Hope

            Bingo Dawit.
            A neighbor that dreams and works daily for the worst for Eritrea—-the worst sanctions,dividing Eritreans along Religious,lines,by Region,Tribal lines–etc—“quota”,wishing the worst things under the Sun—-and still telling me that you are not my enemy.
            Not just a historical but the bloodiest and eternal enemy of Eritrea and Eritreans.
            And this is despite that we did best our to forget and forgive–
            God bless you and may the Alimghty enlighten to come back to your senses.
            Hope–
            BTW,it was not us that intiated another front for Unionist Movement–but your own Aboy Sibhat—–Mr.Bereket,etc–

          • Abinet

            It sounds more of Tigrinya .try like this
            Abinet,sayterut abet, saylkut wedet YESEYTAN gorebet
            You like that better?

          • dawit

            I never thought that extreme, I thought a confused and misguided greedy neighbor. But if you described your self as ‘seytan’, I will accept it. ከባለበቱ ያወቀ ቡዳ ነው ይባላል

          • Papillonn

            Dear Abinet,

            No more is the “Ethiopia-or-Weyane-is-our-enemy” a sold-out ticket. However, a manufactured enemy is about to roll out and put on a display with a pricy tag. The Unionists. The interesting thing is, no person that I know of or no article that has been written so far unequivocally advocates for a union with Ethiopia including YG the high-priest. A bizarre mind set however is set in motion in search of phantom enemies. That is precisely what delusion is.

            The Weyanes as it stands are more preoccupied with their Dam projects or rail-way projects or cloning higher institutions in every part of the country. The Ethiopian younger generation’s interest about Eritrea is not any different than their over all interest in the entire Horn region. The sad thing is, the indifference is the making of Isaias who has taken away the Eritrean pride where the latter is turning into morbid diffidence. The challenge however is not to win the hearts of Isaias’ supporters, rather it is talking some sense into the confused.

          • SM

            Just mind your business of completing your dam and railways.We do not need any more enemies as we have had enough.
            We do not need you and your help at all.
            Funny.had it not been your interference,we Eritreans could have built our own Red Red Dam and exploit our multi – trillion business of Precious Metals,Potash;Natural Gas and Petroleum mining,not to mention our multi – billion business of Tourism,Salt,Fishing;etc…industry.
            You know exactly as to where we could have been by now and that is why you are sleepless. But,it is a matter of time that we will get beyond our goal and you just keep barking and keep digging for more evil wishes.At the end of the day though, you will pay the price.
            Learn from your past mistakes and from that of your ancestors and think twice and give PEACE a chance.

          • Abinet

            I don’t understand why people worry about unionists .they were successful in the old generation because the king wanted Eritrea so badly that he did everything in his power to get it back .the current leaders did every thing from supporting the independence struggle to a send away party to even paying for the haneymoon and lending hundreds of millions of birr for”gojo mewchia” . In short they made sure Eritrea is gone.no come backs. As you said it Ethiopians are busy building fast and no time and interest thinking about Eritrea.

      • Papillonn

        ዝኸበርካ Ali Salim,

        As I see it, your comparison lacks validity for the socio-political milieu of Syria stands in a sharp contrast with Eritrea. If the regime in Eritrea betrayed the spirit of the martyries, the latter has a unifying effect on the people where in a perilous circumstances it stands as a buffer (read: ዝባን ስዋኣትና). On the surface and in a strict conventional take of the term, Eritrea is on a relative peace but beneath and with in the cleavages, Eritrea is at war. Simply because, the tyrant has declared war on the Eritrean people. That is, if a “Civil War” is to break out, its ramifications is not going to be any worse than the people are going through right now. In a “Civil War” an amputated leg can be replaced by a prosthetic leg but in Isaias’ war against his own people, there is no prosthetic for an amputated spirit.

        Haft’kha.

        • dawit

          My sister Papillonn you claimed to be Eritrean citizen and concerned about Eritrean people to rescue your people from a cancerous tyrant
          disease called ‘Isaias’. WAW what a gift to the Eritrean people. God sent an Angelina Papillonn as a healer to save her people.

          How was life for ordinary Eritreans before the arrival of thisnewly discovered disease called Isaias? Let us take a brief walk through the
          memory lane of Eritrean history of the last few centuries.

          ‘ Gizat Turki’ the people of Eritrea killed each other based on tribal or regional or religious differences. They prayed on the week tribes catch them and sold them as slaves to foreign
          countries, never to return to their home.

          Gize Talian, their fertile lands were confiscated by force and given to Italian settlers and their grazing lands were given to Italian commercial farms and Eritreans toiled on the farms for meager wages. Others who became land less were forced to join the colonial armies to fight in Tripoli Libya, Mogadisho Somalia to fight people they don’t even know or had no knowledge and die serving and building Italian empires. They were forced to fight their neighbors to the south and live under apartheid rule of Italian segregation at home.

          Gize Engliz, and Ethiopia.Eritreans had to deal with ‘Shiftas’ terrorizing their villages. Gize Haile Sellasie zemene Ethiopia, of dived and rule they
          have to live under civil war of ‘Comandus’and Tor Serawit burning villages raping girls and cutting of breast of mothers and killing of children, poison in their drinking waters, and life prisons. Zemen Derg whole village napalm fire bombs dropping like rain from the sky, burning their villages, their crops designed to starve them, mass massacres everywhere, people have to live in caves and underground
          dugouts in day time and walk at night to breath fresh air before defeating the last occupier of their country breaking the link of chains of foreign occupiers from far and near places in 1991..

          How is life for ordinary Eritrean under the new disease called ‘Tyrant or Dictator’ Isaias’. How this new disease is destroys its victims, body and
          mind under the cover of independence? The new disease tells the people to arm and defend themselves, their families and country from their historical enemies. The tyrant gather young Eritreans to learn academic and military
          knowledge at Sawa for free to help themselves and in exchange the new disease DIA demands those young people who had no chance to go to school majority of them who were left to look after goats and cattle, camel heard all their lives
          under Eritrean occupation government for centuries are to serve their country for free. This tyrant asks the people to build terraces and plant trees to conserve the soil in their farms. He asks them to build dams to collect water for themselves and their animals. Girls who spent their time fetching for water the whole day can go to school, because water is delivered in their villages. Mothers who were dying in birth because of lack simple health care facility
          nearby are surviving, their children who were dying because of lack of vaccination they are allowed to live long. The people are allowed to elect their local administrators and judges freely, but they are not allowed their tyrant. Do you think Angel Pappillonn Eritreans have to risk a civil war or a new form of colonization with your drug called ‘Democracy’? or vote ‘freely’ for new kind of slavery! I don’t believe that.
          I think Pappi it is you who is sick find some cure, pray to Mariam, Asmeriety, Dearit or Debre Sina. Mehiret tewrdelki!
          Hawki

      • haile

        Ali-S,

        You are in total agreement with YG 🙂 Was the Ghedli sacrifices worth it?

        • SA

          That was a good one haile the great! Who would have though that Ali Salim would arrive at the same destination as YG if we take seriously his arguments about a potential civil war among Eritreans? I hope he will respond to your comment and question once he has cooled off from being outraged by your question.

      • Ismail

        Ali Salim,
        You are playing individualized politics and appealing to emotions with the above argument . What would a Syrian woman in the middle of the mess say? We simply don’t know, cannot know and will never know. The Syrian woman could well be blaming it all on Assad and wishing the rebellion to succeed.
        Ismail (pointblank)

    • Ismail

      Thanks Papillonn….I couldn’t agree more but I wouldn’t say the only enemy is Isaias. I would include his collaborators and enablers as well.
      Ismail (pointblank)

  • House of Stark

    the only thing I can say is brilliant

    • Ismail

      Thanks House of Stark… I appreciate it very much!
      Ismail (pointblank)

  • Dawit Meconen

    Yes, the so called “Opposition” is weak, fragmented and is getting worse etc. and so also is Isaias Afewerqi a tyrant and is getting worse . But this is obvious and therefore does not require any effort to grasp. The difficult is to figure out the cause , the motive that is propelling the worsening situation.
    The main reason behind the weakness of the so called “opposition”, to my understanding, is their continued subserviency to the former colonialist, Ethiopia, whose interest , the “opposition” ought to have figured out since inception, cannot rest with their united, independent and strong organization. To think otherwise is either a sheer reflection of mental disability, or is a masqueraded National betrayal.
    But again, the “oppositions” have not only been suffering from Ethiopian machinations but also the supermajority of Eritreans do not accord them any credibility because, among others, they sided with Ethiopia during 1998 war, acquiesced with Ethiopia’s occupation of Eritrean Territory and supported the economic sanction on Eritrea.
    Another possible cause for their misplaced National allegiance could be that they are still fighting the 1980 war with the EPLFs. After all, to date, they have not been able to differentiate between the interest of the Isaias Afewerqi and that of the Eritrean Nation ; did not vote in the National Referendum of 1993; despite the existence of Unitary Eritrean National Constitution, they have issued their own brand, which mirrors the Ethiopian, and which advocates for Eritrean disintegration along ethnic lines through referendums. etc.
    The overall result of their misguided activities have been to afford Isaias Afewerqi false rational to continue bleeding our people and country to death. The fact that they referred him as “tyrant” is in itself offering a warrant of approval of his conduct.
    Just recall, what Aiga wrote in connection with the attempted Coup in January…..” The devil you know is better than an angel you do not know”. Why did Aiga preferred Isaias Afewerqi to a new Eritrean leader ? There is no other reason but that because it believed Isaias Afewerqi has been working to the interest of its choice, which we know is the destruction of our Sovereignty.
    If we are at all interested to salvage our Nation, we must exactly pinpoint the causative agent to our sickness and devise a proper antidote. Yes, as a self appointed leader, he cannot avoid being responsible for what is transpiring but given the gravity of the cascading catastrophe our country and people are facing, referring him as a ” mere petty tyrant” is tantamount to wittingly/unwittingly collaborating with his conspiracy because , historically as well as currently, his destructive conduct does not smack a petty tyrant but a wolf in sheep clothing. The quicker we come to gripes with this reality, the better chance we have to save ourselves and our country from utter decimation..

    • Ismail

      Well said Dawit ….. Thanks for the feedback….
      Ismail (pointblank)

  • Kokhob Selam

    ኣበይ ከ ቀነኻ ወደይ? ኣብዚ እነሀልኩም ዘረባ ::

    • Hope

      Kokhob,
      Is this your original poem?If so, I think you have to “sell” to to our patriotic singers–be it Bereket M.or wedi Tikabo,so that the public will get it.
      Seriously.
      Or at least,you have to collect your Poems and put them in a book and ‘sell” it.
      This is NOT an easy Art/Talent,Bro.

      • Kokhob Selam

        Dear Hope,

        all my poems are originally mine and even you will notice some written years back. I never thought of selling my poems, as all are deep from the heart to serve people. 800+poems might be given to awate -well arranged (few among them with animation). any artist interested to get is welcomed at any time to use my poems by just by writing here the title he want and and short idea of the content. Thank you.

        • hope

          Here we go,another Eritrean hidden talent.And Arabic too,besides such an ORIGINAL and classic Tigrigna??.Oh,boy,what a pity of not using such talents for Eritrea—
          Just keep it and try to develop it ,man.No,no.no,do NOT give it up for free as you did NOT earn it for free—Just keep writing more and present it in an organized manner for publishment through our own Red Sea Press.
          I will buy the first 100 books.-

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Hop please note:-

            01. There are thousands of thousands still yet thousands of artists were vanished. I don’t think I am the best . yet, we all have given gifts and we can do good through art. I am good in something else than writing poems although I love writing poems in every incident of life I come across.

            02. Eritrean government news letter “HADAS ERITREA” didn’t publish any single poem of mine except the once that they are free of gold and wax or clearly written out of politics. I have tried it in 1994 and till
            1998. Setit and stgenay etc. were good but they are somewhere in containers .
            03. I don’t like to make business on my writings as all belong to the mass as I don’t like to pay 2% to PFDJ it is against the mass.

            We Eritreans have a lot to give to our people but we didn’t find the way. Some are doing good job inside the
            coutnry but we people all are not the same by natutre first and by experience also. I am among people who can’t agree to work single day with PFDJ or some one who want to lead me without accountablity. For give me for saying so but “Truth and Honesty is the oldest and most powerful of all of the human values.
            ~ Gary King

            and thank you Hop I appreciate for reading.

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