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The Pretend Tudor Monarch And His Banks

Since late last year when the Eritrean regime imposed tighter controls on the Nakfa currency, the already small Eritrean economy has shrunk, mainly due to shortage of cash in the market.

The acute shortage of cash in circulation has hit the retail business hard and drastically reduced its size—perishable products for instance, a kilogram of tomatoes that used to sell for 80 Nakfa a kilo before the government recalled all the cash in circulation, is now selling at 20 Nakfa.

Surprisingly,  media sources affiliated to, or sympathetic with, the Eritrean ruling party have been crediting the decrease in the prices of perishable items to the “smart economic strategy that the government implemented to lower consumer prices.” However, the government’s role in the decrease of prices is the fact that it pulled a big chunk of the currency out of circulation.

Eritrean vendors who have no proper cooling and storage facilities have to dispose  perishable items fast, at any price, before they rot and end up being thrown away. Vegetables and fruits that start selling at 100 Nakfa a kilo in the early morning end up selling at 25 Nakfa a kilo towards the evening.

Over the last three months, the currency drama has preoccupied Eritreans more than anything else. And though the process of the currency exchange supposedly ended a few weeks ago, Eritreans are still living with the disruption of the economy that the ambiguous decision to change the currency created. That has finally resulted in the government ending up controlling all the currency in the country. In addition, it has meticulously recorded how much each and every citizen owns and in the process, and it has greatly profited from the exchange of the currency.

Out of the estimated amount of 62 billion Nakfa worth of currency that was in circulation, only an estimated 75%  has  been surrendered to the banks. The rest is believed to have turned into valueless paper, and that translates into unjustly earned profits for the government of Eritrea. Unfortunately, in the absence of a free press, according to an observer the losing parties are, ”mainly poor people who have no understanding of how the PFDJ banking system and its other rackets operate,”. Needless to say, the totalitarian regime and the business elite of the ruling PFDJ party has already converted their money to US dollars and stashed the ill-acquired wealth in distant and safe places long before the government announced the changing of the currency.

The regime allows businesses to withdraw only 20,000 Nakfa monthly (roughly $400) from their accounts; the regime insists they can conduct limitless transactions through checks or other banking tools. However, those whose business is located in the countryside, or is mainly based on cash transactions, are almost out of business. A businessman who just left Eritrea for good stated, “Such meager cash cannot sustain a small corner-kiosk let alone a wholesale business.” But it is not only businesses that are complaining, individuals can only withdraw of 5,000 Nakfa monthly irrespective of their household sizes.

It is clear that the ill conceived, greedy, and politically motivated decision to change the currency has created a problem and has already ruined the livelihood of many citizens. The regime, however, claims it’s “smart financial policies will punish and limit the activities of corrupt individuals and businesses.” But so far, the entire population is being punished while the cats that the regime selectively fattened are not deterred . The regime has put the already shaky monopolized economy in a quagmire it is ill fit to navigate through.

Frantic movements to ameliorate the damage caused by the currency disaster that it created, the regime has subjected Eritreans to a barrage of proclamations, clarifications, additional explanations, and more clarification related to the change of currency. But each time, the legalistic sounding clarifications get worse and end up increasing the perpetual confusion. And in its latest bid to counter the widespread discontent and negative publicity, on Thursday, February 10, the PFDJ regime issued further clarifications in relation to the currency exchange.

According to the latest clarification, anyone has the right to pay by check, and there is dire consequences for those who refuse to accept a check: penalties, jail terms, and cancellation of business license. And to lead by example, the regime decided that all its service and public institutions will deal only through checks, no hard cash—could that curtail corruption?

Acting like parents who consider it is their responsibility to safe-keep their child’s piggy-bank, the Eritrean regime decided to keep the wealth of supposedly free citizens. Anyone who keeps cash amounts of more than 3000 Nakfa would be committing a serious crime! There was a chilling clarification: Usually, all cash should be deposited and withdrawn from banks, but in case that individuals and business are found keeping huge amounts of cash, they would be held responsible by “the law and face the legal ramifications.”

Indeed, the main announced reason for the change of the currency and its forced depositing in banks was to decrease the use of paper currency and make transaction through other banking instruments like checks. It was alleged it was to promote the use of banking transaction other than cash, but never to control or limit commercial and personal transactions as there is no limit to the transaction amounts  carried out by using checks. So, if they want to avoid the wrath of the regime, Eritreans have to begin using checks in their financial transactions.

However, the culture and practice of using checks is not something you enforce by proclamations. Imagine a person in a remote Eritrean location in need of buying a bull to slaughter for a wedding party, and the animal costs about 7000 Nakfa, over twice the maximum legal transaction the regime allows the citizens to conduct in cash. Worse, neither the buyer nor the seller can read or write. Such transactions are doomed unless the ruling party ventures into a new business of providing check-writers and readers in each village and hamlet across the country—and given its record of “financialization” of governance, no one would be surprised if it did.

At any rate, the ruling party seems to have already envisioned a solution: it proclaimed 100%  literacy rate and so now it is so. It declared every Eritrean should use checks and they will, by hook or by crook, and for fear of serious repercussions: a threat of jail terms for refusing to accept or write a check! And of course, the clarification “clarified” that  Forex business is still the monopoly of the regime, and a threat: “all exchange of hard currency can only be carried out by authorized, legal money changers, any exchange outside the legal entities results in a serious punishment.”

The best deal for Eritrea would be for the Eritrean tyrant to issue a proclamation to immediately end poverty, stop drought, and eradicate opposition to his injustices, and build a great wall of Eritrea around the country to further isolate it. With no parliament to stop him, the pretend-Tudor monarch can issue any proclamation he wishes!

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  • dawit

    gasha,
    Do you mean Tsetserat in Eritrea and you from Amanuel in Ethiopia?

  • Dis Donc

    Dear Mista AMAN,
    Now he might or might not be right on other issues but explain to me why is he going to build a wall across the Mexican border? I thought that they were the champions of “tearing down walls.” If that is not enough, he is beating his chest of having Mexico pay for it. Explain this to me. We leave the rest, as they are purely an American matter and they should be in charge of them.

  • Lamek

    Hi AMAN, I think you got the wrong forum. Maybe the other Eritrean forums?

  • አቶ ዓቢ፣

    የተሰጠህ የእረፍት ጊዜ አንድ ሳምንት ብቻ መሆኑን አትርሳ። ዓቢ አኩርፎ ሄደ ማለት የማይታመን ነገር ስለሆነብን፣ የእረፍት ጊዜ ብለነዋል።

    የትም ቢሄድ የት፣ አሜሪካ ሆነ ማርስ
    ጎንደሬ ነውና ካባቶች የመጣ ቅርስ፣
    መንደርደር ልማዱ አሻፈረኝ ማለት
    አትንኩኝ አትምጡብኝ ያለ በቂ ምክንያት።

    ይሁንና፣
    ቶሎ ብሎ ካልመጣ በሚመጣው ሳምንት
    ልጅ አሉላ ዓቢ ነገሩን መርምሮ በሚመጡት ቀናት፣
    ተባብሮ እርምጃ እንዲወስድ ሞላው ቤተሰብ
    የምንጠይቅ መሆኑን ካሁኑ ይመዝገብ ።

    • dawit

      Horizon,
      Message from Abi
      “ይመዝገብ ወይስ ይገንዘብ?” ተብታባ ትግሬ።

      • dawit,

        ይመዝገብ = let it be written, recorded,
        ይገንዘብ = let it be known, understood,
        I hope you can understand the difference and similarity between the two words.

        Cool down and take care you do not burn out, my friend. You are boiling like Erta Ale volcano, and you are losing your logic. It is no good for you.

        • Kokhob Selam

          Dear Horizon,
          this poor guy was no in Eritrea and never fought for our national freedom. He was enjoying his life in Adiss but as you can see he was spoiled putting his fingers here and there and Aboy Meles thought “HE MAY SERVE IA DURING WAR –better remove him” he was wrongly included among the deported as IA never use this type of men. Now,….Lol.

          from my side I have sanctioned dawitom and I will never reply to him. do the same.

          • dawit

            Kokhobay,

            “ባቄላ ጠፋ ቢሉ ፈስ ቀለለ ኣለች ኣህያ”

          • Hayat Adem

            dawit,
            you are an interesting piece of work. you speak amharic naturally. you speak isaias by learning; you quit easily when are challenged at work; you persist with your intruding hand on a female body disregarding “gidef”; you are proud of your high-achiever daughters (God bless them) but you care nothing when the Eritrean youth perish on their way running from your Nigus/ your Christ-equivalent; you, at 63, are still enjoying your 90 yrs old mom and you stand with Isaias who snatched the mom and dad of Meaza and Hannah Petros at a toddler and tender age. What are you made of, dawit?!

          • Kokhob Selam

            Really I love this one,
            I will try to put it in poem form when I get time.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            selam Hayat,

            An Interesting description of an odd human being, who is insensitive to the plight of his people – is indeed an interesting piece of human spieces. You put it together all his behavioral characterstics as graphic description of the interesting man of Awate forum – a cult worshiper of zenegese Negusna.

            Regards
            Amanuel Hidrat

          • dawit

            Hayatina,

            What can I say, again you are right on dawits language capability and support for PIA. And I admit guilty for all the crimes you listed. You are now fascinated or intrigued by what dawit is made of? For that answer you may have to wait for a long time i.e. when dawit dies. I have decided to donate my body for AT Medical School Teaching Hospital so that my body will be used for training young future AT Eritrean doctors.(SA and AH, don’t you think that is a good gesture in my part donating my dead body to Eritrea’s future. Kokhoby could I gate a credit for patriotism ?

            As I said, that is going to be a very long time, if I have to die from a natural cause. If I am lucky to inherit the gens of longevity from my ancestors, I will guestimate 30 or 40 years from now. By that time Madam Hayat may be an old maid living in some retirement home in the west i.e. if she refused to follow her friend Kokhob’s advice to allow long skinny hand to touch her. .

            Hayat: I have not forgotten about your request of introducing to you my daughters, I have shared the idea to my wife and we are still thinking about it. However to help us in our decision, could you send a copy of your CV and a copy of your 2% diaspora tax document (this is special request from their mother, she is jealous and careful with whom she share them, but in your case don’t worry I know you, and will plead your case and if she refused I will use my long skinny arm to twist her delicate arm to accept your request. Sometimes it help to be dictator even in a family).
            Cheers!
            dawit

          • Hayat Adem

            dawit,
            What? You want to use your kids to force-tax people 2%? I’m sure this is not from your wife. It smells dawit. I tell you, your body might be more useful. No offense intended.

          • dawit

            Haitina;
            ከመሞት ኣልድንም ኣትጠራጠሪ ስጋየም ያንቺ ነው ኣታርጊው ብጣሪ

            You can have it if you want it that badlyn no charge.. I just changed my will to inherit my dead body.
            2%? If you need a service you have to pay for it, that is simple economics

          • Hayat Adem

            dawit,
            A decade or so ago, Memhir Asres Tessema (RIP) gave me a typed one-page with five quotes written on it. One of the quotes pose questions “how much is a human body worth in terms of its organic composition?” The chemistry scientist who asked that question answered it himself saying 4.5 Sterling Pounds, and he presented a detailed breakdown on how he arrived at that. So, if you are not using the higher human intelligence built in you by the higher authority- the Creator- for the greater good, your body doesn’t not worth that much.
            I can’t pay 2% to IA because it defeats the whole purpose of opposing the IA regime. And I didn’t ask any service. I only asked to be introduced with your smart daughters. I was imagining this:
            Daughter: Daddy, next Sunday, my boyfriend will introduce me to his parents. Is that okay?
            dawit: That is okay but make sure that he has paid the 2% tax.
            Daughter: What, you want me to charge him for 2% milk.
            dawit: no milk, ata ‘tai eia tibil, denqoro. I’m saying 2% tax for Ere.
            Daughter: Income tax for IRS?
            dawit: kidi sikhi hagerawinet ayrede’akin’yu. tekhekh aytebilini. natkhi boy friend kefele aykefele, Isaias will always be great.
            Daughter: I dono what u just said, Daddy. Bye!

          • dawit

            Hayatina,

            You asked me a question “What are you made of, dawit?!” I gave you a direct simple answer, now you checked with your sources Memhir Asres and your English chemist you finally confirmed the chemical composition of and how much you could fetch in the free market in 4.5 sterling. I don’t know how much it worth in Nakfa. Case closed.

            Now like SMEG you extended your question to include dawit’s intellectual capacity or intelligence? That is not difficult to know, according to the Judaism/Christian belief as recorded in the Genesis 1:26-27, which relates that “God created mankind in our image and likeness”. Therefor dawit’s intellectual or intelligence is as that of the Creater, nothing more or less.
            On your 2% milk, I think that was bellow your pay grade. That milk is spoiled and it tastes sour. I don’t like expired sour milk, I like sweet and fresh things.

        • dawit

          Horizon,
          Message from Aleqa Abi to Debtera የኣደራ ደብዳቤ ከኣለቃ ኣብነት ለ ደብተራ ኣድማሱ
          Nice try Horizon ያስኬዳል but not for the intended purpose of giving someone warning. But it is ኣማርኛ እንዳበጁሽ …ነው ነገሩ. Other suggestion to improve the message
          (በሚመጣው (በሚቀጥለው)ሳምንት በሚቀጥሉት ቀናት (ቀኖች) ሞላው (መላው) ቤተሰብ)
          Over all grade C+.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dawit,

            If awate admin will concentrate and find out what you have written above that will be your end. please delete it before they notice. I am advising you for your own good.Ha,Ha, you have gone crazy, isn’t your wife reading your posts. shame on you.

    • Peace!

      Dear Horizon,

      May be he is doing something positive for the country somewhere with his fellow Ethiopians.

      Peace!

      • Dear Peace,

        We all wish him well, wherever he might be. I hope he will soon show up. Abi is a very active person, who would not want to stay away from awate.com, a place where conflicts of ideas take place. We should congratulate the moderators for making their site a respectable place, despite the fact that, as you can see, some are doing their best to litter the site with their obscenity, because it is their main mission. Some are shown the exit door, and we say good riddance; some others unfortunately, leave for no serious reason. These are the ones who should come back.

        • Peace!

          Dear Horizon,

          Agreed. Such a nice guy who like to joke and laugh and has never conspired with Eritreans against his fellow Ethiopians.

          * Any news from back home? Is it true TPLF has now dismantled the civilian administration of the Oromia region and replaced with military junta? I hope it is not true.

          Peace!

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Peace,
            If this happens what will be their for us Eritreans? can you imagine, you may lose Assab if not the entire nation. So, your case will be in worst scenario and the way out is to clean your house not what Ethiopians will do in their own home.

          • Peace!

            Khokobai,

            Absheir, N’aka Hizna Entay Keini Kewun!

            You just made an interesting point: “If this happens what will be their for us Eritreans? can you imagine, you may lose Assab if not the entire nation.” What do you mean, please elaborate, thank you.

            I like your calm and sober response, very engaging!

            Peace!

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Peace,
            1st don’t expect from Kokhob much, I have been around and have done little very little and you don’t have to tell me that – I know individuals can only do what they can and the first job is to fight their own ego – which I have tried and gone distance than those who are blindly killing, arresting and murdering their own fellow men. so if you are mocking in saying “Absheir, N’aka Hizna Entay Keini Kewun!” make sure you have reached in where I am and if you are exaggerating my role in this struggle again let me assure you I am just an individual – it is the mass who that matters.

            2nd- EPRDF as a collection of different parties has totally recognized Eritrean nationalism. all oppositions couldn’t swallow this truth and are willing to fight – this is including those supported by PFDJ. See, if Ethiopia will be in mess even temporarily and refuges flow to Eritrea that in itself will a disaster leave alone if EPRDF will be defeated. We will not have any advantage at all when Ethiopia will be disturbed – PFDJ will go in process but then we may have to start all over the war for our identity. isn’t enough? didn’t we pay enough?

            Let’s hope Ethiopia will continue fighting her poverty and do our homework is my stand. Yet, Ethiopian case is not in our hand as fire my broke inside and we should be part of solving their problems if possible while moving in light speed to remove our corrupted group.

          • Peace!

            Dear Kokobai,

            Thank for the interesting response! If I understood you well, you are saying the future, or even the very existence, of Eritrea is depend on the power grip of EPRDF, or TPLF to be more precise. In other words, if injustice prevails in Ethiopia, the danger of Assab being annexed is imminent, and in order to protect that we need to clean our house by turning our country into a yes man toy for EPRDF to stay in power. Well if this is the reason why the justice seekers, oppositions, activists are silent about the unfolding injustice in the Oromia regime, then they don’t deserve Assab either. It is beyond shocking when a people who are being deprived the right to live by PFDJ defend a regime that deprives the right to live to others. If this is the stand of our opposition group, I can only say DISGUSTING!!

            To Oromo people, TPLF is worst than PFDJ- torture, disappearances, and killing are now their daily life which is not different from what PFDJ is doing to us. I wish them victory because I know how harsh is to live under tyranny.

            My friend I am against injustice, and will not sell my soul for any reason. Eritrea, in particular Assab, should not be existed at the expense of the life of majority Ethiopians. Last, it would be nice if you could share with me which opposition group harbors such unfair and hypocrite idea, so I won’t lose the tremendous respect I have for the genuine Eritrean individuals who are spending their life fighting the devil at home.

            Victory to Oromo and Eritran people!
            Peace!

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Peace,
            Let me first understand ” My friend I am against injustice, and will not sell my soul for any reason. Eritrea, in particular Assab, should not be defended at the expense of the life of majority Ethiopians.”what ?

          • Peace!

            Kokobai,

            It thought I was clear that It is evil and selfish to conspire with TPLF and deny justice to Oromos people. How about now?

            Peace!

          • Kokhob Selam

            Peace,
            you care about justice in Ethiopia more than Ethiopians and you are under devil ! not healthy. shame, to talk about others -others who are under human beings.

            you know what I thinking, in the future Eritrea I will ask my government to give you PFDJ supporters one area governed under one dictator and you can enjoy your slavery. KBRETE WISHA category.

          • Peace!

            Dear Kokobai,

            I don’t think it is that hard to focus on the subject and make a point than wasting your time with none sense. It is ok I forgive you, but please, as dawit said, don’t write while chewing spit-tobacco not only it is a disgusting habit, but eats your brain out. Dehar Ka Nezom Nai Dumna Tekawemti Neyow Belom. Keyementuluka!

            Hawka
            Peace!

          • Dear Peace,
            The best thing you should have wished for Ethiopians & Eritreans should have been Peace (as your name suggests), because if war occurs, be sure it will be extremely ugly. If we want to save the poor people of the region from an other catastrophe, no scenario short of peace is the answer.

          • Peace!

            Dear Horizon,

            Well said although I do not understand why you keep constantly pointing at me every time I raised issues on which you have no interest. Strange!

            Peace!

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Peace,
            the man is reading you – he is reading all posts and each line. you can’t hide your stand from Horizon. calm down and announce PFDJ should be removed by your own hands man.

          • Sorry Peace,
            If that is what you believe, be sure, it will never occur again. I thought Oromia and Ethiopia interest me a lot. I am for peace and not victory, because victory comes with a lot of sacrifice; and most of the time it is not worth the sacrifice.

          • Peace!

            Dear Horizon,

            I like to believe you my friend, but if you are really for peace then you should be condemning the ongoing killings in your own country; instead: first, you tried to undermine the situation perhaps because you thought the situation might go away in a few days, it didn’t, and now you are blaming wehabisim, and I don’t know what might be your next excuse as if the demands of the Oromo people are illegitimate and the crime against them also justifiable.

            May be I am wrong never mind forget! Lets talk about what Sudanese soldiers are doing in Yemen and Syria. What do you think?

            Peace!

  • Abraham Hanibal

    Hi,
    The world is soon going on flames: Donald Trump is going to be the USA’s 45th president. Sorry this has nothing to do with the current discussion; but I brought it because it is something important about to happen in the world’s only super power.

    • dawit

      Abraham,
      That is a great news! I am looking forward to cast my ballot to Donald Trump. I know I wasted my ballot in 2008 hope to redeem it in 2016..
      dawit

      • Dis Donc

        Dear Davy,

        But here you are living in the west, at your comfortable house, but denying those who live back home a chance to enjoy life like you. A chance to vote for a change! A chance to earn a living wage! A chance ….

        • dawit

          Dis Doc;
          Yes dawit lives in his comfortable house in the west and want others to live in their comfortable homes in Eritrea working as Managers and owners of their businesses and not as dish washers in the West.

          • Dis Donc

            Dear Davy,

            25 years and counting… still nothing but empty bravado. Sadly those countries that you mentioned seem to be better off than your IA’s Eritrea, with the exception of Yemen. That just is facy, man.

          • dawit

            Dic Doc,
            Is Laing your profession? In 25 years, Ethiopia 18 millions trapped in never ending hunger, civil unrest in Oromia, Ogaden Gambela, Wolqite…,Sudan split into two, civil war in Juba, civil war in Darfur, Yemen broiled in civil and religious wars, . Ya all these countries are better than Eritrea the island of peace in the horn of Africa! Dic have some sense before you argue with dawit.

          • Dis Donc

            Dear Davy,
            You are not smart, are you? Difficulty in reading and understanding? Thought we are talking about your IA’s Eritrea?

          • dawit

            Dic
            Where do you live in Mars? Didn’t you know our famous slogan “Nsu-Nhna”! From now on you should know PIA is dawit and dawit is PIA!

          • Kokhob Selam

            …..ብትቱ ሕዙለይ …..

            dawitom, it is just the part of the poem not complete one but just for you read it for today.

            ጨርቃ ዝደርበየት ጨሪሳ ዓቢዳ :-
            ምስማዕ ዝኣበየት ህዝቢ ክእብዳ :-
            ሃገረ ብሃገራ ዘእተወታ ዕዳ :-
            ገና ኣይጠቀማን ግደባ እገዳ :-
            ውስኽ ኣብሉላ ሓዝዋ ብኢዳ :-
            ፍርክሽክሽ ክትብል ርእሳ ተጨዲዳ ::

            ብቱ ጓል ብትቱ ጓል ሰልፊ ናጽነት :-
            ጀጋኑ ኣናብስ ቀቲላ ዘጽነተት :-
            ብዙህ ተጓዒዛ ሰሪቃ ሃገርነት :-
            ሕጂ እንድ ኣላ ጉዳ ዝተቐልዐት ::

            ድግም ኣብሉላ ግርም ወሱኹላ :-
            ሕጊ ኣጥቡቁላ ትጸሞቅ ተበሊላ :-
            ይፍሰስ ጸረር ኢሉ ሲሚ ምስ ሓተላ :-
            ቁርጽርጽ ክትብል ፍሕ ፋሕ ተዘናጢላ ::

            ሓፋሽና ክሳቀ ክጠሚ ክስደድ :-
            ባህ ዝብላ ጉጅለ ክርዳድ ወዲ ክርዳድ :-
            ኢዳ ካብ ኣእተወት ነገር ከተንበድብድ :-
            ዓለም ካብ ረበሸት – ብዓለም ትፈረድ ::

        • Lamek

          Hi Dis Donc, you make the most sense here in this forum. A lot of them here write lengthy article size comments but they repeat the same things day in and day out. It’s worthless. You, Abi, and Khokob Selam are concise and make huge statements in just a couple lines.

      • Abraham Hanibal

        dawit,
        I can assure you that you will be the first to suffer/ if you live and work in the US/ from the antagonistic and populistic policies of Mr. Trump, in the form of a big slump in the US economy. This could be in addition to the risk of worsening the divide between the West and Russia, increasing the potential for confrontation. But, it is your right, of cousre; so go ahead and vote Trump.

        • dawit

          Abraham,
          dawit knows how to swim in troubled waters. He will survive and prosper under King Trump!

    • Dis Donc

      Dear Abraham,

      When Obama came about, they were saying that something important is going to happen. And now for Donald Trump. The belt way is very hard to change.

  • Mahmud Saleh

    Selam the great
    I’ll come with my reply in a format I feel fits the issue at hand.
    Here is what I call the Miami Syndrome. After 15 years one would hope our enlightened intellectuals would learn that it takes more than becoming the echo chamber of deliberate and well-focused campaigns of strangulation. The concoction of Ethiopia’s long standing ambitions, USA New Order of a unipolar world, and IA’s miserable failure to navigate the nation through the reality of time made a country that has every reason to ask the despicable AU and UN for compensating good gestures relive abuses and bullying that it is so familiar with. Hayat put it in an expected way. The argument that Eritrea should be embargoed because IA acted badly in so many ways is just absurd. Even the great SAAY has nothing relevant to prese except trying to overload readers mental faculty with hodgepodge accusations. If his thrust is showinghow our Ngusna has failed to seize up world (the despicable UN) operates, I would be with him. Eritrean was accused of specific transgressions. The messengers of deception and coercion have been beaten in their court. Finally, they have swallowed the bitter pill that Eritrea did not have any links with Alshabab. Eritrean didn’t send 2000 soldiers to Somalia, all the “unconfirmed “,”according to this /that” reports have not only been thrown to the garbage bin, but their sellout providers and collectors have been criticized as working outside the mandates given to them. They were chastised by the same body that imposed the sanctions. Basically, conscientious nations including three of the permanent members told SEMG that it was not professio, you that means, in the perlanc of diplomacy, it was corrupted. Now, our enlightened folks are mad because they say SEMG missed evidences. And I challenging them that their help would be appreciated by SEMG. It’s looking for a face saving exit. You heard Ethiopia’s latest accusations . Yep, expect the ever moving goal post of SEMG to include the latest wayanes massacre of Ethiopians as perpetrated by Eritrea. The group and its sponsors are that low.
    The Miami Syndrome warns opposition all over the world that unless opposition idividuals and groups identify themselves based on independent principles and strategies, unless they differentiate themselves from forces the target populace consider adversaries, then they are doomed to counting years of exiles to finally be abandoned by their financiers. What’s happening is a case of a vicious cycle of feedback. Our esteemed opposition put all their eggs in the hope that Ethiopia, USA or someone from the edges of possibilities will take care of removing PFDJ. Therefore, they become the echo chamber of Ethiopia and the USA, they consume everything they say, sometimes they become uninvited participants. This results in theIraq dismal achievements and Eritreans cool silencesilence

    • saay7

      Hahaha Mahmuday:

      Let’s do this WaHed ethnien thelatha cool as cucumber:

      1. saay may argue that Isaias is way too slow and a relic of bygone era to ever be fit to be Eritrea’s president. But the UN doesn’t care about that. As an Italian landlord used to tell me when I was late with my rent and I would tell him sob stories, “Questo e il tuo problema.” What the UN cares about is nations acting in a way that is disruptive to world peace and security. And the UN has very few tools (it doesn’t have an army): it only has sanctions. And these sanctions were not imposed on Eritrea by “uni polar America”. Here is what happened: please read as painful as it may be for you to read it because it includes your enemies (IGAD, AU, UNSC) playing by the rulebook:

      (a)In IGAD thanks Ethiopia for its role in Somalia. IGAD includes Somalia, Djibouti, Sudan, Kenya, Uganda, Eritrea. Eritrea, the odd one out, get furious that IGAD is thanking and not condemning Ethiopia and leaves in a huff, like a kid with a temper tantrum, and then goes on to form a collection of misfits (ALS) under the ambitious name of Alliance to ReLiberate Somalia. Isaias, whose country doesn’t neighbor Somalia, gives long lectures to countries who share a border with Somalia on what to do about Somalia. He is ignored and he goes on his destructive path;
      (b) IGAD brings the issue to AU Peace & Security Council
      (c) AU’s Peace & Security Council brings it to the UNSC
      (d) At the UNSC, it gets the vote of 13 of the 15 members (including Russia which, I think, is on the other pole of the unipolar world); China abstains; and Libya, itself a long-term victim of sanctions, votes no.

      (2) The language of the sanction. I feel compelled to quote the precise the language because you keep talking about moving the post. It is very short and this is it:

      16. Demands that all member states, in particular Eritrea, cease arming, training, and equipping armed groups, and their members, including al-shabab, that aim to destabilize the region, or incite violence and civil strife in Djibouti.

      As you may know, every word, every sentence in a resolution is first drafted by the P-3 (the permanent members US, UK, France) with one of them (in this case the UK) having the Pen and then negotiated with China and Russia. You and I, as mere citizens, don’t need to know this, but those with big titles like Eritrea Ambassador to the UN, should–if they spent more time doing what diplomats do instead of holding seminars to “describe the objective situation on the ground” to Eritreans.

      They would then know that “all member states, in particular Eritrea” is UN-speak for “Eritrea.” And “armed groups including Al-Shabab” means every single armed group that Eritrea arms, whether they are Somali, Ethiopian, Djiboutian, Sudanese because the whole context is “peace and security in the region.”

      I don’t know what bitter pill you speak of, Willis:) The Monitoring Group said, in consecutive reports, Eritrea is supporting Al-Shabab, it is not supporting Al-Shabab as much as it used to, it is barely supporting Al-Shabab, it is not supporting it at all. Almost each mandate of SEMG was staffed by completely different people and each one had to start from scratch to conduct its investigation. And, every SEMG team was denied admission to Eritrea—Yemane G said, let’s meet at a neutral place (so I can lie freely) and they even allowed him to do that.

      Our esteemed opposition barely mentions the UN, the SEMG. But our esteemed civil society surely does, just like the esteemed mass organizations of the PFDJ spends all its time trying to influence the UN. I think that is called lobbying and, I am sorry, but it is not just the monopoly of the government, but that of every Eritrean stakeholder.

      The point is that, as Hayat explained, Isaias Afwerki has been compelled to do almost everything the UN demanded: he got out of Somalia, he stopped mentioning Somalia at all, he conceded defeat. He could have done this by simply listening to the will of the IGAD and AU but he comes from an EPLF culture where it is normal to call them “monkeys” and “dummies”, and “corrupt”. So, IGAD and AU got somebody else with a bigger stick. And now he has complied.

      saay

    • Hope

      Allan Mahmuday:
      Hold your ground and stand FIrm,my man!
      Yes,indeed,no space for shyness or kala’lem when it comes to the Reality and Facts on the ground !
      We should see ERITREAN issues separately from the PFDJ and its Leadership when it comes to the Brutal external Interference!
      If the coward UN and the AU have the GUT and the COURAGE,they should have treated Eritrea and ERITREANS in a nicer and humanitarian way,instead of keeping us hostages of the alleged PFDJ Crimes and disobedience!
      For the likes of Hayat Adem and Sem Andom,including the Emma’s and the Ssays,what is is written in big RED LETTERS in history is nothing but just fake history simply coz the PFDJ and its Leadership are committing ” Crimes” and mistakes as if commuting crimes and making mistakes is exclusive to the PFDJ and its Leadership,while fully knowing that the likes of the USA and its Puppets have committed immense crimes against humanity !
      Without going back to the Heroshimas ,the Nagasakis and Black Genocide,the recent more than 1.5 Millions death of Iraqis and Syrians are few cases in point .
      We are lucky and blessed indeed for not being like the Iraqis and the Syrians despite that we have been threatened, forced and dragged to follow suit(of the Libyans,the Iraqis,the Syrians,the Afghans)!

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Mahmuday,

      So this is a fight between the ” Naqfa syndrome” and ” Miami syndrome”. Is that how you framed it? Mahmuday, I think you are out of your way. You lost your soberness and humility at least to tell you that.

      • Mahmud Saleh

        Ahlan Emma
        No, not really. This is between Asmara and Miami syndromes. The Asmara syndrome is identified by its “We can do it; Eritrean solutions to Eritrean problems.” Miami Syndrom? Ask the Cruzs and the Rubios. They spent decades pressuring American policy makers to continue embargoing Cuba, at times leading subversive missions, but the Cuban people told them “nedekhum maay wredula.” Time has taken its toll, now they are irreklevant as far as Cuban American politics is concerned. Finally, Americans are realized to use a back door to get into Cuba and next months will mark the first American visit to Cuba after 90 years. That’s because the Miami lots policies and strategies were not separable for the Cuban people from the American policies and startegies. Do you see a parallel? Sanctions? I really see them completely differently from the way Ethiopia, USA and the rest see it.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Hi Mahmuday,
          The Asmara Elites talks only on the military success we made on Naqfa front and its surrounding**, and hence militarism is the solution for all Eritrean problem. They do not know when to employ political diplomacy and military force, to achieve our national interest and maintain peace and stability in the region. Their mind is infected with militarism of ” bello derEmo ” no matter what it costs to the Eritrean people, and are always prone to employ where they feel doing it, as they did with Yemen, South Sudan, Eastern Sudan, Zaire and Ethiopia. The mantra of hit them and then sit on the table

        • Hayat Adem

          Selamat Mahmuday,
          1) The logic of paralleling absurdity: Cubans had to endure blockade and isolation for 90 years. Because we are like Cuba, we can survive 90yrs of rough time with the US, too.
          2) The law of logical departure: Cruzs, Rubios brought and worked for the 90yrs long “Miami Syndrome”; the Obamas removed it.
          3) Logical Inference: IA could never get along with the blockade and isolation politicians like Rubios and Cruzs. Okay, something is not consistent here: IA couldn’t get along with Obama, (the man reputed for engaging and removing a century old blockade) as well. Never mind, since we are like Cubans we can endure a century of isolation, and work with Obama II in 2106.
          Hayat
          PS: Hey Mahmuday, do you by chance suffer from any IA Syndrome? IAS is a personality habit of producing more unforced errors and fallacies.

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Hey Hayatina the greatistina
            When was the last time we talk about the greatness of TPLF, oh, yeah, and the GERD? Let’s have some small talk on them. You see you are my favorite awatista if not the most. Because you have made yourself Clear. I have no problem on how you take or interpreteven Eritrean issues. You are brave, unlike some who want to have it both ways.

          • Hayat Adem

            Mahmuday,
            Have I said or interpreted your statement wrongly from what I said above?

        • Lamek

          Hi Mahmoud. People are getting relentless to you of late because you have lost some level headedness and objectivism. Cuba endured US sanctions beginning from 1962 and you are suggesting that we do the same – just stick with our way and the US will eventually get frustrated and come to the round table with us? You are missing big things. Mahmoud, you should just re-take what you have said the last few days because that is not you. You are just extremely agitated by some forumers here and you don’t want to concede defeat. If I were you I would simply say “…look folks, you guys pissed me off and I was trying to pay you back and it got me out of my game…my game plan is to bring about a much needed change and the right direction to my people. There is no defending PFDJ. I know them more than you all do. They are a lost cause. Let’s expedite their downfall, start afresh and help alleviate poverty and hardship in Eritrea…”

          Trying to defend IA and PFDJ policies will make you look really foolish.

          Going back to Cuba, it was a different era. Now because of globalization, no country can afford to be isolated much less sanctioned. Plus there was the other block you can work with. Now there really is no choice but to beat the Americans on their on game but you got to play with them. If not you get forfeited and you lose without trying. You need no lecture on this. I sincerely do not believe that you believe what you are writing. It is shear frustration and resentment because of all your friends ganging up on you. Shame on them including Saay.

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Hey Lamek
            Very reasonable reply. To be honest I see two people conversing reasonably, without name calling and labeling. They would be Lamek and Haylat. I believe on what I believe. The only guilty I would feel would be going to bed with dissonant thoughts. Say, I oppose sanctions as they stand. What has got that to do with my firm stand for a position change and my unwavering position against injustice? I want to know why people resort to impulsive urges of discarding my views based on my political affiliation with an organization that liberated Eritrea 25 years ago, an organization that produced thousands of political prisoners as a result of their efforts to correct the derailment of our post independence journey. In short, I belong to a group of our people who did everything right given the circumstances and moved on. I don’t know PFDJ, and I didn’t personally take a dime from that could. I didn’t take a centim AHmer. I don’t intend to personally benefit from any change. So why is all these dorona? Can’t my dearfriends take me as an independent person, someone who owns what he originates? Tell you what? I have a respect for what you think and say. Just because I believe what you say contradicts with what I believe, I don’t label you, or fall for quick personal attacks. So yes, it’s a shame. But I can assure you that I believe on what I say. That’s in addition to my stretching to cover Nitrickay position, until he returns ( some jokes are in need).
            heavily in correcting the journey our

          • Lamek

            Hi Mahmoud, as you well know, there is a lot of frustration and anger against PFDJ by the Eritrean people, including most of us in this form, which of course includes you. So, if anyone looks like he is defending the policies of PFDJ and IA, even remotely so, you can be assured that people will react and attack.

            I think I understand Saay’s position. I could be wrong but I don’t see him as a lobbyist for the sanction of the Eritrean regime, I conclude this because I read him a number of times that the sanctions were avoidable had IA not dared the UN to do it. Your position is that it doesn’t matter. If someone tells you to him them, you don’t do it just because they begged you. Hitting someone is wrong under all circumstance (of course with the exception of self defense). So you are arguing that the UN (pressurize by the US, Ethiopia) was determined to sanction the Eritrean regime anyway. To re-iterate Saay says sanctions were avoidable and you say nope, they were bound to happen no matter what. Do you think IA knew this and that is why he didn’t cooperate with the UN because it was fruitless because the train was on its way anyway? If so, your position should be take more seriously and a bad precedent could have been set already.

            I do have a feeling that it is hard for you to just throw the entire EPLF history under the bus. Some elements of the PFDJ are a reflection of EPLF and throwing the whole PFDJ system could also be killing the legacy of EPLF. I sympathize with your position as you gave so much sweat and blood. But I have to admit I have no sympathy for the two organizations or are they one and the same?

            In any case, I think what may help you convey your messages better is to be concise and leave all the background information out. Just state your position and people can take it or leave it. But if anyone doubts that you would work against the interests of the Eritrean people deliberately, then that is really wrong. But your defense of the PFDJ policies with respect to the sanctions is certainly making your positions cloudy.

        • Dis Donc

          Dear Monsieur Mahmut,
          Cuba is not as isolated you might think; both from the beginning as well as now. Cuba was estranged only with the USA, as they have good relationship with practically the rest of the world. All the remaining points are addressed by Lamek and Hayat.

  • AMAN

    Dear Awates,
    Shalom ! Shalom !
    So busy these days on private business.
    vacationing in Las Vegas , Hawaii and more.
    Taking a break from being so absorbed in
    my job of public Affairs for a while.
    So how you all doing . Missed you for a while now.
    However, I will always try to follow you on your tweeter
    and face book pages when I get a little window of time.
    You know after all the tremendous job I have been part
    of we accomplished together, this one month paid vacation
    is a deserving and well due.
    Just saying Hi to All.

    • Dis Donc

      Yes Mista Prezident!

      • AMAN

        @disqus_lKwqAJTnje:disqus
        Although I do not agree with all your points all the time,
        you are one of the few logical commenters I have respect
        at Awate forum.
        So I hope you don’t misunderstand me that it is my group
        that made the biggest effort and contribution to bring the
        opposition and its politics into shape. All what we did is
        empower and bring the opposition to the standard and
        level of a government and to fill the post or the helm that
        was lacking leading the politics of the region into crisis if
        it was politics at all by the way. Because the former form
        or orientation of the political order and orientation was all
        set up only for ZERO SUM GAME where no one could
        claim a win but all lose together with the majority people
        simeltaneously.
        If that was not the case
        You wouldn’t have this what you had been having so far
        or have been having now while we talk.
        Note :
        ( Assuming you oppose my previous and current stands
        and / or contributions ).

        • Dis Donc

          Okay Mista. We bow to you.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear DD,

            I can ‘t make sense on all Aman ‘s comment. I am surprised at least you have some hints on his take, that enable you to engage him. Good for you and Aman. Please continue to do so to make him feel part of our discussion. Very interesting.

            Regards
            Amanuel Hidrat

  • saay7

    Selamat Ted:

    Now, this is where things fall apart for the “Only Eritrea stood up to the US while the rest of Africa cowered under imperial hegemony:”

    1. The African Union was against US invasion of Iraq and didn’t enlist in the Coalition of the willing. On the other hand, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Uganda, Rwanda and Angola did. Four of the five are countries has already been flattered as “frontline states against Islamic fundamentalism” by the Clinton Administration. The rest of Africa was opposed and some, like Tanzania, were very outspoken against it. So, nah, you can’t retroactively give credit to IA or PFDJ. They jumped on the bandwagon early.

    http://www.pwhce.org/willing.html

    2. When African revolutionaries and those opposed to “neo-colonialism” were decrying the presence of Centcom in Africa, the government of Isaias Afwerki aggressively sought to have US presence in Eritrea. It hired a lobbyist, at $50,000/month, to argue its case to the US administration.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2002/11/21/eritrea-pushes-to-get-us-base/f730d0da-a727-43c1-ae16-15c8b06ae7a3/

    This was not a case of temporary insanity: the whole PFDJ infrastructure was activated to make one case to the US: please come and use Eritrea as a base. In addition to hiring the lobbyist, the government had its ambassador to the US, Girma Asmerom, addressing the National Press Club, giving interviews to a Japanese newspaper claiming that Eritrea is a perfect fit for the US because “even our landscape looks like Kandahar”; you had Isaias telling journalist Kaplan (The Atlantic) that he considers the US a stabilizing force in Africa; and you had the utterly useless Organization of Eritrean Americans (Sophia/Ghidewon gang) making the same case to the US.

    As an institution, the African Union has a lot to be proud of in terms of standing up for “African values.’ The PFDJ, which believes in nothing other than whatever is in the best interest of Isaias Afwerki at any given time, folded like a cheap chair and now has the nerve to lecture African countries about their “independence.”

    saay

    • Ted

      Hi SAAY, c’mon now,Talking is one thing, doing something about it is another. I don’t know if you are talking about something else but AU is the most inept organization i know of, where do i begin, Somalia, Darfur, Mali, south Sudan, Libya, Rwandan genocide of 1994………in recent events there were one concerted effort by AU to stop Libya bombing but they were no near to make a dent on the outcome as everything else. Not to mention the court decision made between Eth-ER border issue. We are still waiting “African solutions to African problems” since its inception, the idea we need badly except still to hope western troops or UN peacekeepers w come to our aid in every conflict we have.

      We both know the urgency of having a help to deal with real terrorists Eritrea were dealing with back in the days before peace were made with Sudan. As it turned out they were not interested for a reason and i don’t blame the Gov just for trying that US is still the most powerfull country.

      Can you google translate.ደሮን ሢያታሉላት በመጯኟ ጣሎት, it is for the Herman Cohen the double agent Eritrea GOV lobbyist.

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Ted,

        Match your argument document by document to rebut Saay ‘s well founded argument. “Come on’ and diversion of argument won ‘t give you room to generate ideas to defend the undefendable policy of DIA.

        Regards

        • Ted

          Hi AH, what document are you talking about. If you have eyes and ears you will know what is happening in Libya, Iraq , Syria…..Somalia invasion as everything else has nothing to do with terrorism, the same as the new Coalition of Muslim against terrorism. As i understand it, you don’t want to admit how much PMMZ screwed up in his own country and all around him in the name of terrorism. Don’t be surprised if the Oromo be labeled as terrorists when the time come they tighten the noose on TPLF. The sooner you know TPLF will have less power in Ethiopian politics, the better.And as an opposition, it benefits you to improvise with current reality,

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Hi Ted,

            Do not try to respond without reading the links. The links provided by Saay to us (to you and the forum) are the document that support his arguments. The forumers read his comment and the links that support his argument to make sense out of it, to words the subject at hand – to either support his argument or come with different argument. So When I say match your argument document by document to rebut him, I mean if you do not match links by links to rebut it, it means you are excelled by him and lose the argument. Is it clear now?

          • Ted

            HI AH,the link is not classified document you have not heard or can not google. Thanks Saay;-). The issue is if there is “hypocrisy” in GoE part for supporting Iraq war and denouncing Somalia invasion by Ethiopia that both orchestrated by the same US. If you look the outcome of both involvement, it left the countries much worse than they were before. ERITREA is not on trial for supporting Iraq invasion but for refusing to be part of the US agenda in the horn and i am glad they stay out of it.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Hi Ted,

            I am sure you don’t have an idea about the links. If you were knowledgeable enough and you could pull any document in a second or instantly like what he did (btw all the time), you could have pulled some report to link and use for your argument. Admit like us, that you do not have the ability to do that as often as he does in all his argument and in all matters. I haven’t seen you debating with supporting documents what so ever. So Ted the forumers are reading him as well as to you, and they have their own judgement on your debate skills. So it is not an issue of classified or unclassified another effort of diversionist argument; the issue is how to utilize the existing documents however they exist to support your debate. If you still believe that you are cable to do that like him, show us and we will stand corrected.

            regards

        • Peace!

          Selam Emma,

          First of all expressing frustration against AU is totally legitimate given it is a camp for a bunch of sellouts, and doesn’t necessary mean supporting or defending any government for that matter. What Ted is saying is that AU is basically a colonial apparatus and it is a liability to African people, and his examples are a simple prove that its record speaks for itself. I have no idea why you are asking him to support his claims with evidence as if the genicide in Rwanda, and the ongoing atrocities in Libya, Somalia and central Africa are unfolding in our dream.

          It is so disappointing that we are reduced to opposing everything the regime does and supporting anything agains the regime without scrutinizing facts presented to us. Even now unlike EU, AU is silent on the atrocities TPLF is commuting agains the Oromo people: it is ok cover your ear I know you do ‘t want hear because weyane is always right.

          We can’t even narrate effectively our purpose and direction: one day we become Economists, the next day foreign relations experts and the next day politicians and so on. The AU are the most corrupted organizations that not doing anything foot to African. ካብ ጥቕሙ ጉድኣቱ ይበዝሕ።

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear Peace,

            When did I say Wayane is always right, Peace? What I always say is stick to our issue and our problem. The Ethiopian people will take care of themselves. They do not need you to cry on behalf of them. If you believe “non intervention” on our domestic issue from foreigners, why do you want to do it yourself to others (in this case Ethiopia)? Peace, I will urge you to utilize your know how and your energy to our national problem.

            Second, Ted knows how to dance around the issue using diversionist tactics. His argument is not addressing or rebutting to the argument made by Saay. If he want to do it, he could have disproved his comment and the links he provided to us. Other than doing that, it is all futile and none sense – and will not amount to a debate. As simple as that.

            regards,
            Amanuel Hidrat

          • saay7

            Selamat Peace:

            Please explain how AU, a continental union of 54 African countries, is a “camp for a bunch of sellouts.” Then, ask yourself, if this view that you hold–wildly shared by the elite of the PFDJ*–contributed to Eritrea’s isolation from the AU.

            saay

            * In his maiden address to the OAU in 1993 Cairo, President Isaias Afwerki told the august body that he is only joining because, he said, ናይ አቦ ንመን ንሃቦ and then translated it.

          • Peace!

            selamat Saay,

            Well, PFDJ elites have their own reason and purpose, so do I. When I said it is a camp for a bunch of sellouts is basically I was referring to leaders who are still collecting colonial tax on behave of French and other former colonies while their own people are suffering from extreme poverty, which I am sure PFDJ elites do not hate or criticize AU for that matter.

            On a separate note, PFDJ elites are happy to talk about issues that polarizes the opposition camp further because they can make a compelling case against UN and AU as Eritrea itself was/is a victim of both organizations. The thing is if we agree on only a united opposition force can bring a meaningful change, then we should focus on issues that help us build a strong unity.

            * As For president Isaias, I would like to borrow a phrase from Saleh Johar ” He is not my president.”

            Peace!

          • Lamek

            ዝኸበርካ ሓው ሳልሕ፥ ክሳብ እዚ ሰዓት እዚ፥ንሡ እምበር “ናይ አቦ ንመን ንሃቦ” ኮይኑዎ ጸኒሑ ንህዝቢ ኤርትራ። ግርምቢጥ እዩ ነገሩ ናይ በዓል ኢሡ። ሕጂ ግን ጓሓፍሲ ኣብታ አንዳ ጓሓፍ ዳኣ ተባሂሉ እዩ። ቀደም ወዲ ኣፎም ብሪ ይብሎኦ ኔረን ኣንስቲ ኣስመራ፤ ሕጂ ግን ውሑዳት ስለ ዝተረፉዎ እሞ ኻኣ ኣብ ኣሜሪካን ኤውሮጳን፤ “ንሕና ንሡ ንሡ ንሕና” ኮይኖም ተሪፎም። ቅሩብ ቁራቦ እዮም።

            I used nugusu se (ሠ) just to piss off ንሡ in case he reads my very important and timely comment.

      • saay7

        Selamat Ted:

        Let’s start with the important stuff: Google Translate is completely stumped by “Cha” and “Gna” sounds. Also, why are you using “Se-Negus”?

        Now then, I thought your whole argument was that the US was using the “War Against Terrorism” as a cover for world hegemony and in the process has killed hundreds of thousands of innocent people? I don’t just think: read what you wrote: that was the entirety of your writing.

        And what I am saying is the Government of Eritrea, and its supporters, are LEAST QUALIFIED to make this argument because when it mattered most, they defied Africa (yes, the same “inept organization” of AU) and lined up in the War Against Terror AND used Eritrea’s meager resources hiring lobbyists, fanning out its diplomats, to cry, “pick me! pick me!” The record on this is so clear I don’t know what is there to argue, other than those who like to be contrarians.

        Of course you don’t blame the Government: there is a pattern there. Didn’t you just recently use a convoluted argument to support its “without reservation” support of yet another anti-terrorism campaign, this time wearing a Saudi face?

        saay

        • Ted

          Hi Saay, if you were in Eritrea in Early years of Independent Eritrea, you would understand why Eritrea goes “pick me pick me” none stop. You are comparing oranges and apples, Eritrea’s request for terrorism help were real and appropriate. I think you missed the point where i say ” Eritrea didn’t get the memo what “fighting terrorism” of US entails. And You got it wrong that i don’t support but try to assess risk benefit of the Saudis coalition involvement. The Saudis current coalition is as absurd as it comes which i oppose with all its elements although i understand the reasoning behind it ;Money, security(Sudan) and easing Isolation. The Houthi are no push over and they will grind the Saudis to the ground and at the end of the day the region will turn for the worst. I don’t get what “without reservation “exactly mean, you kept bringing it up, can you explain?

          • saay7

            Selamat Ted:

            1) Eritrea’s “pick me! pick me!” was (a) in 2002-03, 11 years after Eritrea’s independence; (b) it is being whitewashed now: at one point Isaias Afwerki claimed in an interview that the US had asked for a based in Eritrea and he had rejected it. The size of the UUUUB is stunning;

            2) Why didn’t “Eritrea didn’t get the memo of what fighting terrorism” means when every African country and the AU that you love to ridicule, got it? That’s my point: IA is slow. Not only did he not get the memo on terrorism, he didn’t get it on Iraq, he didn’t get it on Libya and he didn’t get it on Somalia. And now, he is not getting it on Saudi Arabia’s “terorism”. I mean how many catastrophic mistakes are enough for you?

            3. I keep bringing up the “without reservation” phrase because (a) it is in the press release that Eritrea issued and (b) in his interview with Eri-TV, President Isaias Afwerki bragged that he had carefully chosen every word in the press release; (c) given that the Saudi’s definition of “terrorism” is very different from that of almost every Eritrea, it is stunning that our government supported it ‘without reservation”. Synonyms: “unreservedly”, “wholly”, “absolutely”, “completely”, “in every respect.”

            saay

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Dear Sasy,

      Well argued my friend. Who can match you with a document supported argment. Your links and your hardtalk argument exposed the empitiness of DIA supporters. Keep up the good job.

      Regards
      Amanuel Hidrat

  • Hope

    Well said Ted the Greatista!
    I read that interview in its totality and almost the whole declassified Wikileaks Report on Eritrea and Ethiopia!

    Guess what?

    We are ” Lucky” and Proud to have evaded that Missile System,one way or another,no matter what!

    There is a REASON why I have stayed Firm on my stand…. at least until the dust goes away.
    Democracy ,Dictatorship.etc….should not be the major topic now but our National Security interest abd Survival !
    Did you listen to the Habbal Ethiopian Leader threatening to bomb Eritra soon to cover his mess in Oromia?

    HA et al including Pastor Emma and their younger brother,Sem Andom,might be ellulating about this bombing plan to assassinate PIA.

    • Semere Andom

      cousin Hope:
      Well, who cares if DIA is killed. Better human being have died in the world: Mandella, Newton, Jesus,, prophet Mohammed and the countless Eritreans who are perishing everyday.

  • Amde

    Selam Mr. KH,

    (Love that movie “In the heat of the night” where Sidney Poitier says “They call me Mr. Tibbs.”)

    I co sign with your last paragraph. Isayyas is having the time of his life indulging in geopolitics as he sees it. Eritreans suffer because he deems them too small and too poor for his ambitions. When dawit says “znegese ngusna”, he forgets to mention the second half of this saying, which roughly goes “He who reigns is our king; That which shines is our sun.” Except Isayyas is not a sun that shines, he is a black hole that sucks all light and life.

    The Al-Shabab pedigree can go into the weeds for sure, including asking if being Jihadist is synonymous with terrorist, and whether military tactics considered acceptable ambush against an armed opponent are called terrorist acts when deployed against innocent civilians. In any case, speaking of Al-Shabab specifically, it did not come into being until after the ICU was defeated during the Ethiopian invasion.

    Its journey from being a militant nationalist ICU off-shoot, to self declared ISIS chapter did not happen overnight. And context absolutely matters. In the perfect storm of state collapse, a dynamic global ideology (international militant Jihad), and the availability of resources (money, weapons etc…), it is easy to see how this transition can happen.

  • ‘Gheteb

    It Is All Isaias Afwerki’s fault. The UN And It’s Most Paramount Member Are Blameless. Long Live The UN!

    Most of Eritrea’s national agonies have the UN’s handprints or fingerprints all over them. It’s most paramount member, the U.S.A, advances it’s geostrategic interests and those of its client states through the instrumentality of the UN. Few countries have been more victimized and scapegoated by the U.S.A’s and its client state’s national interests than Eritrea.

    In 1950s, they literally shoved the Federal Arrangement down the throats of Eritreans and when it was unilaterally abrogated, the UN uttered nary a peep of condemnation against the perpetrators.

    During the 30 years war of liberation and the brutal Ethiopian occupation of Eritrea, the UN didn’t utter even a whisper of concern. Not only that, no one wanted to touch EPLF’s representative to the UN even with a ten feet barge pole. If you are in doubt, just ask Dr. Bereket.

    Even after Eritrea’s de facto independence, the UN didn’t readily welcome the EPLF’s referendum proposal. It took some prodding from certain quarters for the UN to embrace it.

    In 2000, when the Weyanes were conducting their naked aggression against Eritrea, the UN didn’t raise even a decibel of concern regarding the aggression of a sovereign nation. I guess the UN was waiting for Ethiopia to finish off its aggression thereby creating the propitious milieu 390 A(V) redux.

    What is even more egregious is the UN’s evident reticence about the non implementation of the Ethio-Eritrea border rulings.

    At the end of 1999, a new drama with the setting in the UN was written with one person as the central character, writer and director. Susan Rice and her groupie have been hankering for quite some time to see to it that Eritrea is financially choked off by cutting off remittance to Eritrea. Well, some 9 months ago, here is what I was thinking about this issue.

    ” Some a decade and half ago and at the height of The Ethio-Eritrean war, those with a keen sense of hearing could easily detect the susurrations of taking punitive actions against Eritrea or imposing penalties on Eritrea. Well, that was precisely what Susan Rice, Anthony Lake and Gayle Smith were contemplating on those years as was bruited by the redoubtable New York Times of May 22, 2000″ .

    http://www.nytimes.com/2000/05

    At this juncture and at this remove, anyone who tells you that Eritrea was sanctioned for the purported reasons of supporting Alshabab or the issue Djibouti or whatever, has gotta to be a bona fide denizen of planet illogic or must seriously hail from planeta abyssinicus.
    Otherwise, as wikileaks have abundantly made it crystal clear, there was a concerted and co-ordinated effort to sanction Eritrea. Over a year and half before the sanctioning of Eritrea on December 23, 2009, the Weyanes and their partners from The State Department were working feverishly to see to it that their plan against Eritrea came to fruition.

    Here is Meles Zenawi telling it plainly how much he wants to see Eritrea sanctioned to Susan Rice as per WikiLeaks.
    https://wikileaks.org/cable/20

    ” Isaias has become vilified within his own country for the hardships he has brought upon his people. Despite his rogue actions supporting extremists in Somalia and destabilizing Sudan, Isaias has calculated that the U.S. and other countries would consider Isaias more of a headache than a threat. Meles suggested the Isaias’ calculations would be shattered, if the U.S. and others imposed financial sanctions on him and particularly cut off Isaias’ funding from Qatar and other countries and the important funding from the Diaspora in the U.S. Isaias still imposes a mandatory 2 percent of salary tax on all Eritreans living overseas. Non payment results in family members in Eritrea being denied food ration cards. Meles suggested the U.S. could approach Isaias privately to try to change his behavior, armed with the threat of sanctions, and determine his response. Any public statement or public threat would not work with Isaias. These sanctions could be important to press Isaias on his responsibilities to the international community, and to indicate that his actions would not be tolerated “.

    Just to show that Meles’s partners in Foggy Bottoms were also doing their utmost to see that Eritrea is sanctioned, here Meles meets Wycoff November 2009

    https://wikileaks.org/cable/20

    ” DAS Wycoff questioned providing support to Eritrean anti-government armed groups, noting the USG,s interest in regional stability. Wycoff agreed there is no evidence that Eritrea has showed improvement in its behavior, although he added that President Isaias had recently undertaken something of a charm offensive targeted at European diplomats, a possible indication that he may be considering options. Wycoff assured Meles that the U.S. remains committed to achieving a UNSC sanctions regime against Asmara and continues to broaden the discussion beyond the P3 and Uganda with a hard push by USUN. He said the USG was also expanding efforts to undercut support for Asmara, noting for example he been sent on a trip to Cairo, Riyadh, Jeddah and other cities both to promote efforts to undercut flows of support to Asmara but also to seek concrete support for Somalia’s TFG. He said he has observed that some EU member states, formerly more supportive of Eritrea, have come to accept that Eritrea is playing a seriously negative role in the region and that the UK now believes that Eritrea has become a significant threat to its own domestic security”.

    Given all the background information that was gleaned from WikiLeaks and coupling these with my own readings of the Horn region, I have to say the following regarding the sanctioning of Eritrea.

    (1) The idea of sanctioning Eritrea is of the Weyane’s emanations. I mean, the Weyane deviously thought to achieve what is their REAL and heartfelt desire of achieving regime change [through that achieve their undeclared ‘Eritrean agenda’] in Eritrea through the economic strangulation and diplomatic isolation of Eritrea by way of a UN imposed sanction in Eritrea.

    (2) All the propitious milieu that were necessary to hatch the idea of sanction and the incubation that was necessary to give ‘it’ life was readily rendered by the Government of The United States Of America specially by The State Department. From Madeline Albright to Condi Rice and from Hilary Clinton to John Kerry and all their deputies and undersecretaries have mightily worked to make the sanctioning of Eritrea a reality.

    (3) The Somalia factor and the Djibouti issue are nothing more than pretexts used by the Weyanes and their handlers, read US, to give the sanctioning of Eritrea the veneer of legitimacy. Had destabilization of the Horn was the real reason and had occupying sovereign territories of other countries was the main reason for sanctions, then no other country fits the bill than the Weyane-led Ethiopia to be sanctioned by the UN. I mean, one has to be very honest to accept this logical conclusion.

    (4) However, if you are in the blame everything on Isaias Afwerki and PFDJ and your goal is to weaken Isaias and the PFDJ, then you will happily sing the anthems of sanctioning Eritrea. And, if your job descriptions is to carry water for the Weyanes, then you are duty bound to vociferate and wholeheartedly support the sanctions imposed in Eritrea.

    (5) Since all the sanctions that were imposed on Eritrea were based on mere casuistries and speciously unsound reasons, I firmly oppose the sanctions imposed on Eritrea and I call for their lifting forthwith.

    Now, what is up with this Somali Eritrean Monitoring Group ( SEMG).

    I think that the UN security Council set up this Monitoring Group ” to collect empirically accurate data to help it make informed decisions on issues pertaining Eritrea…”, but it’s records are far from being accurate and objective. Here are some examples of what I am talking about:

    (A) In 2011, it used unverified charges of Eritrea using three planes to ship arms to extremist Somali groups to hype another clamor for more sanctions against this young nation; the charges originated in Addis Ababa but came via Nairobi.

    (B) Last year, three key members, including two of the five permanent members of the UN Security Council, raised serious questions about the integrity and veracity of the Monitoring Groups.

    (C) It moves the goalpost, so to speak constantly. From Alshabab to Ethiopian opposition groups to Yemen and now even asking about financial disclosure.

    (D) And now they have reported about the Eritrean soldiers fighting in Yemen.

    Is there an end to all these trumped up and fabricated stories and all these idle casuistries? Maybe, in a year or two.

    • Dis Donc

      Dear Gheteb,

      In the world, we live in, an able leadership can easily stir an about to be wrecked ship from a dirty water, filled with political sharks. We do not live in a just world-that is much should be clear to you. So as you can see, this leadership in Asmara has not delivered; no matter whose fault it is and how many times they tried. In fact, as the saying goes. “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results.” An able leadership; elected by the people and accountable for the people is needed in Eritrea.

      • dawit

        Dis Donc,
        The Eritrean government under the leadership of EPLF/PFDJ is always accountable to the Eritrean people, but never to traitors and their sponsors. That is why the people identify with their government and its leadership, by singing “Nhna-Nsun” and “Awet NHafash! It is a government, by the people for the people. Snake-oil traders of ‘democracy’ can not fool the politically conscious population of Eritrea. Pseudo economist or politicians have no place in the new Eritrea.

        • Dis Donc

          Dear Davy,
          If you are all confident why not run an election and legalize it?

          • dawit

            Dear DD,
            Because we don’t want Eritrea to end up like Somalia, Libya, Haiti, Iraq. Congo, Syria, Afghanistan, Ethiopia or Yemen, after they swallow that fake ‘democracy pill’ prescription by the fake UN doctors. Eritrea needs real democracy and not counterfeit western democracy.
            dawit

          • Dis Donc

            Dear Davy,

            Those countries that you mentioned, barring a recent Ethiopia, never exercised democracy. In fact, by your own admission, these countries went into the abys because of the fact that they were led by someone like IA and his henchemen. A good example to you is Ethiopia, who developed their little and organic democracy, however fake or bad, and look the small success they have. Moreover, I cannot say this enough, but western democracies shoud only been seen as examples and not as models. Amongst many things, each country has a unique tailor-made democracy to their culture and faith background. And hence, copying them would not do the trick.

            True, that Eritrea needs a real democracy, but when and where? And who is going to build them because so far these democractic institutions do not exist. What experience does IA has when it comes to democracy? None!

            One last question; if, as you say, Eritreans do not need or deserve western style of democracy then why are they paying the highest price to reach these countries? The world is big. Latin America, just for an example, is empty and is in dire need of immigrants. Why aren’t they going there? The grand question is why are you and your followers prescribing a pill for Eritreans when they can easily choose for themselves. Damn shame that is!!!

          • dawit

            DD,
            Democracy is beign built brick by brick, from the ground up, Watch to the News coming daily broadcasted on ERiTV. From where are you reporting DD, Miami beach? “Ethiopia a democratic country”!, you can sell that to an Oromo or Ogaden child. Eritreans, like many Africans, Asians or Latin American are taking a chance to get higher wages my washing dishes and toilets driving taxi with PhDs. than to work as carpenters, builders, accountants. And who are you the kind of Ethiopian democracy to Eritreans? Believe it or not, IA is a true elected of Eritrean people voted by the blood sacrifices of Eritrean Martyrs. Visit, the Eritreans ballot boxes by visiting Eritreans Martyrs Cemeteries throughout the country! Shame on you to criticize or mock Eritrean people and their leaders!

          • Dis Donc

            Dear Davy,

            You are losing you bearings as you ran out of argumentative reasoning. May be you didn’t read what I wrote and interpret it as you wish but nobody should prescribe democracy to Eritreans. Including you and your likes!! They should choose what they wish at their own will and so far I see IA and his henchmen are imposing their will on us. I did not choose him and nor many of them who are running away from his evil grip.

            Those who are running away to wash dishes are simply because they are not accorded of their right. Hence they chose to wash dishes. You, IA, and his henchmen are not the only ones who paid dearly to Eritrea, you should know. Finally, who I am is none of your damn business….

    • Semere Andom

      Btsay Gheteb
      PFDJ’s/IA/s/EPLF’s rockbed on education is their disdain for the study of histoy, so much so that they have calculated the ration of historians and lawyers hadas Eritrea will need vs technologies and crafts people: 1:100. This is only until they need history and law to save their behinds. And this comment follows to the letter the teaching of IA.
      Yes, UN did not utter a whsper on behalf Eritrea, leaving hisitory aside as you guys are fond of saying, let leave this to history Gheteb and talk about the present. There are Eritreans who never
      uttered a whisper when 10,000 Eritreans many of them founding fathers and mothers of Eritrea are in jail
      There are many Eritreans who never whispered when PFDJ and IA murdered sheiks and sheik wannabes of Keren
      There are Eritreans who clapped when the disabled were murdered
      There are Eritreans who never whisper when the 400 Eritrea drowned in the sea
      There are Erireas who never told their governmet when PFDJ called the victims African migrans
      And there are Eritreans who collaborated with the Rashaida human traffickers, selling Eritreans like cattle
      Gheteb can you solve this riddle, is your antidote for the delusion you are displaying.

      • Hope

        Cousins Sem and SAAY:

        Do not try to twist things coz of your good articulation but read the facts as they are.

        Gheteb has not denied the weakness and mistakes or even the ” Crimes” of the PFDJ and its Leadership but just reminding you the other side of the coin or truth.
        If the UN,the USA and the Ethiopian Regimes along with its supporters from Cuba to Russia have not messed up ,we would not have suffered to that extent and we would not be in the precrarious situation we are in now.!

        Facts are facts and history does not lie.

        Accept the bitter truth and as much as our problems are multi factorial and intricate ,we have to approach them comprehensively if you want to sell your Justice Seeking Mantra.
        Not only PIA and the PFDJ should be blamed for and corrected but the others,the Evil Actors contributing and aggravating our situation should be blamed and corrected as well.

        Beyond that,repeating the same Litany of the Enemy and supporting its evil agenda against Eritrea and ERITREANS ,willake you the worst enemies of Eritrea and sane ERITREAN let alone the Silent Majority will buy you if the recent history of the Opposition Camp is to be the WITNESS’

    • Yoty Topy

      Dear Gheteb,

      While the demise of an entire generation is no joking matter, you have to admit that history does have a twisted sense of humor.

    • saay7

      Ahlen Cousin II Gheteb:

      You have damned Isaias Afwerki in a way that I haven’t in 20 years of writing. Let me explain:

      Suppose, for the sake of argument, Isaias Afwerki was running for office in Eritrea. What would be his argument? I supposed it would be that has a proven track record, an experience, in navigating Eritrea around national security threats posed by regional and international powers. He would say that he was old enough to remember how the UN disposed of Eritrea, how it looked the other way when Ethiopia annexed it, how the world looked the other way when Ethiopia declared a war of annihilation, that throughout, he was able to see around corners and find a safe harbor for Eritrea.

      Then, whoever is running against him would say, “well, look, if you were so capable of seeing threats to our country, why did you involve yourself in activities that would give a ready tool to these organizations (TPLF, US, EU, UN, OAU) that you claim to know so well? You are either exaggerating your experience or, worse, you were grossly negligent–either way, you have disqualifed yourself from the presidency.”

      Gheteb is brought in as an advisor by the Isaias Afwerki campaign and he has no defense other than: I knew the UN was really bad, but I didn’t know they were this bad:)

      saay

      • dawit

        Cousin Saay,

        “Look here is a nation called ‘Eritrea’ that was not suppose to exist, but under my leadership and the sacrifices paid by Eritrean people there is now a nation called ‘Eritrea’ born again since May 24, 1991. The young nation stood firm under tremendous pressure to isolate, starve it through UN sanctions with all kinds of fabricated reasons, support Al Shabab, Human Right Violation, Human trafficking, Organ trading, Sending troops foreign lands in Somalia and Yemen, Sawa Rape camps you name it just for the purpose of eliminating Eritrean Nation once again from the face of the earth! Under all these conspiracies, internal and external pressures I have lead the nation by keeping the peace and harmony of our people, defend the nation from all types of enemies of internal and external enemies big and small. I have not neglected developing the infrastructure of our nation starting from scratch, building roads, dams, irrigation canals, schools, farms, clinics, hospital clean drinking water in every village of the country. I have worked tirelessly to make Eritrea, food secured even under the worst drought situation in our region. My fellow Eritreans citizens, you are my witness because we were together all these years, I will not bring expert witnesses from IMF, World Bank or any other UN bodies to testify on my behalf to embellish my resume unlike my opponents who 1000s pages of recommendations and endorsement of leading news organizations to lead this nation. My fellow citizen I ask your permission to lead our nation and ride our camel for the next 25 years.
        Hafash Eritrea answers unanimously, “Ride-on, Btsay Isaias, Ride-on Let the Camel keep moving to our destination, our promise land a nation or a country of equality of all its citizens, where no one exploit the fruit of his/her sister or brother, a nation worthy of our Martyrs Sacrifice. Yes we shall overcome all types of conspiracies and obstacles to climb and reach top of the mountain together our promise land ‘Eritrea’.
        Awet Nhafash! and Eternal Glory to our Martyrs!

        • saay7

          Hey Cousin Dawit:

          The first paragraph is good–as far as it goes. But then you have to wait for the opponent to give his closing statements. Then, most importantly, you should wait for the people to judge, instead of arresting all the opponents, muzzling all voices, and then telling us: hey, he won! Remember, the opponent may win and then, Dawit, using the Dawitism of “znegese ngusna” (For He Who Is Crowned Is Our King), is compelled to accept the new Negus without question. In fact, in keeping with the Doctrine of Zenegese Ngusna, I expect Dawit to say that he had always supported the New King and those who are still supporting the Deposed King and his tired camel are traitors.

          saay

          • dawit

            Selamat Cousin SAAY7

            You wrote PIA’s campaign speeches with an hypothetical election and you also wrote for the opposition party leader accusing PIA how he is incapable of leading the nation and moreover PIA endangering the security of Eritrea, confronting other nations big and small without consulting the people. Now PIA after reading what you wrote, he was not happy, so he hired dawit as his consultant to write a new speech. So what you red above dawit’s version of PIA speech campaigning for office. You agreed on at least part of the speech, then you followed that by the opposition classics remarks “PIA should wait for the people verdict “instead of arresting all the opponents, muzzling all voices, and then telling us: hey, he won!”. Hey SAAY, you created a hypothetical situation of so called ‘democratic election’ of a typical African country, like the one you are proud of as a model ‘Ethiopian election’ where they keep winning 100% every time they called ‘election’. So arresting opponents or banning individuals from seeking election, that will not be unique for Eritrea, they did it in Egypt, Sudan almost everywhere in Africa. But Eritrea or PIA does not go into the gimmick of ‘Election’, why waste time and worst exposing the people in unnecessary blood shades that happened in Rwandan, Burundi, Ethiopia, Ivory Cost and Kenya just in recent times.

            On your last paragraph you wrote ” Remember, the opponent may win and then, Dawit, using the Dawitism of “znegese ngusna” (For He Who Is Crowned Is Our King), is compelled to accept the new Negus without question. In fact, in keeping with the Doctrine of Zenegese Ngusna, I expect Dawit to say that he had always supported the New King..”. Waw, Cousin you exactly described Dawitism, I agree 100%. If tomorrow Cousine Saleh AA Salyounis become the new king of Eritrea, you have a trusted supporter ‘dawit’, He will sing his song ‘Znegese Ngusna’. Remember you have to stand for Eritrea, against internal enemies what ever size they may have, Supper Power or Mini Power.
            Peace,
            dawit

            On your last paragraph

          • saay7

            MerHaba wedi Amoy/Hatney Dawit:

            So, you are saying “I agree 100%” with my description of Dawitism which is this:

            Dawit, using the Dawitism of “znegese ngusna” (For He Who Is Crowned Is Our King), is compelled to accept the new Negus without question. In fact, in keeping with the Doctrine of Zenegese Ngusna, I expect Dawit to say that he had always supported the New King and those who are still supporting the Deposed King and his tired camel are traitors.

            I know that:) I just want the rest of awatistas to know so they don’t spend a lot of energy arguing with you as you attack the opposition. Basically, your problem with the opposition is that they haven’t been crowned king because the minute they are, “znegese ngusna” will kick in and you will salute them as God’s Elect. You hear that, guys?

            saay

          • dawit

            Wed Abye, Halye, Halche woAmeche:
            Your are 99.99% right. “Dawitsm” says stop opposing who ever is crowned but accept him/her cooperate with him/her as a legitimate leader of the nation. Don’t waste your time opposing use time and energy cooperating. That is good for everyone. If there are no opposition, then there is no need for prisons in the country. The leader will lead with confidence, without worrying of protecting for his power from internal or external intruders. That is a win-win strategy for Eritrea or any developing countries till the reach of the level of tolerance to use the ballot box than the bullet to transfer power. As PIA said may take 40 or may be more years to learn the alphabets of true democracy.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam dawit,
            .
            Wow, here is a brand new thinking, I think I completely understand your model for success. It is a good general theory. Now let us test your commitment to it.
            .
            Can any Ethiopian copy your model and advocate and support the Government, a government that includes TPLF at the center.
            Do you mind? Please explain the reasons.
            .
            Mr. K.H

          • dawit

            Selam Mr. K.H.
            It is not a brand new thinking but rather the thinking of many Abyssinians who were exposed on some bloody competition power to rule over them, it is a survival strategy of the masses. Actually I used to support MZ and TPLF in its early days trial of ruling Ethiopia, against unreasonable opposition of the Amara elites accusing TPLF as agents of EPLF and IA ruling both Ethiopia and Eritrea. They claimed TPLF was ‘Selling Eritrea to the Arabs etc’. You can read the writing of (Professors Asrat Woldyes physician and Proffesor Tilahun Yilma vetrinarian ) turned amateur politician. They hated the close association of the two leaders and countries. So your TPLF under MZ fell to their trap, wanted to prove their Ethiopian nationalism came with a ‘Master Plan’ to loot Ethiopian resources by igniting a border war with Eritrea. The TPLF leaders are nothing but tugs profiting Ethiopians blood.The rest is history and I don’t support TPLF as a legitimate rulers of Ethiopia, under ‘Znegese Ngusna’ criteria. TPLF need to be uprooted from Ethiopia, it is the cancer of the Horn of Africa region.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam dawit,
            .
            It was not much of a theory, was it? I thought you might be consistent and be generous. I was wrong.
            .
            It is so interesting though that you liked PMMZ and TPLF early but fell out of love later on, while I disliked them early on only to embrace them later on. There is a fundamental difference between us. The trick is how to coexist acknowledging that difference.
            .
            Do you see what is happening to your friend Mahmud. They are taking him apart limb by limb. He has only one leg left the last time I checked. He is hoping here and there now, not making too much sense.
            .
            Mr. K.H

          • Dis Donc

            *hopping

          • dawit

            Selam Kim,

            Yes it is not a theory, may be you can consider it as an Abyssinian philosophy of survival for ‘3000 years’. You see Kim, our forefathers, (I guess we should also say foremothers for the sake of gender equality ) did not write their history most of them being illiterate even though we had invented our Gize alphabet for millenniums years. The few literate religious scholars wrote religious dogmas. The peoples history was told orally and that oral history was encapsulated in the form of proverbs, songs sung by illiterate Wtas or Azmaris passed from generation to generation. Here is one historical capsule “ዝበረቐ ጽሃይና ዝሃረመ ማይና ዝነገሰ ንጉስና” I interpret this as a message of people tired of wars on their daily lives. They would not mind who ruled over them, because he or she will not take away the sun or the rain from them. All they want is peace and stability, but if there is a war between rulers then that sun and rain will disappears and their children will be forced to join the war, and women and children will be exposed to rape and other types of atrocities. Now can you say the poor peasants of Bademe on either side of border are better of after the war? Can they enjoy the free sun and rain while their farms used as battle grounds and now kept idle?
            Let me ask you a question. Why did you oppose TPLF early and support them later? Does the border war at Badme has any thing to do with your decision to switch? When I used to support TPLF government, many of my Ethiopian friends hated my stand, then when the war started, we switched our positions. Was this is also true in your case the same as my former Ethiopian friends?. If it is different what is your reason to oppose before and support later? What is your position on the next threat of war cycle between Ethiopia and Eritrea?
            Regarding to Mahmud, I don’t have any comment at this time. As he once told wrote, my stand and his are ‘Ocean apart’ in regards to PIA and PFDJ. We share a lot in common regarding Eritrea’s national interest.
            Regards
            dawit

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam dawit,
            .
            A long time maybe 4 or 5 years ago, here at Awate,I posted about my evolving attitude towards TPLF. What I thought of when TPLF moved into Addis and EPLF marched into Asmara. I feared for the worst.
            .
            To respond to your above post of our switching positions in regard to TPLF:
            It probably might be similar to your friends. I left Ethiopia prior to DERG. The limited knowledge of all the turmoil and dislocations is mostly through readings and few personal reports.
            .
            What I noticed and understood TPLF to be is what their name suggested and later on their bold design and experimentation of “Ethnic Killils” for Ethiopia. I thought they were working together with Isayas to accomplish what he promised us as “100 years of homework” to dismantle and disintegrate Ethiopia as we know it.
            .
            Mele’s language early on was anti-Ethiopia. Slowly changes were occurring and his language was changing too. I visited Addis in 1999 for the first time since I left. It was a different place.
            Once the war started it was noticeable that the “Killils” became Ethiopia first and Meles began to talk about that 3,000 years history.
            .
            My general support, not so much for TPLF, but for EPRDF grew over the years from lukewarm to its current state because of their accomplishments. We are not out of the woods yet but after 25 years you see some signs of progress for the general population. (100 million)
            The recent disturbance in Oromia is of course a concern. The drought is another calamity staring us in the face.
            .
            The various developments in various fields led me to believe that what we have may not be the best but it certainly is better than what we ever had.
            When I see a Somali Ethiopian celebrating his Ethiopianess together with a soldier from Gambela which I have never seen before I took it to be a good sign.
            .
            As to war between Ethiopia and Eritrea, I don’t think it is in the cards. It is always possible a terrorist bomb in Addis will force retaliation but not an all out war.
            The only fear I have is, being somewhat insecure on both sides, we might be played by our neighbors for their perceived benefit.
            .
            Mr. K.H

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear K,H

            can I ask you one question? why are you trying to explain to dawit, if he only needs someone strong to bend him – he said “who ever wins is my king” do you think the man who has this stand will care about what you are saying?

            I oppose also TPLF and even fought against them, I am still sure there was different plan between those two fronts. Things were changed when Meles RIP and his clique start to think wisely – they know very well what EPLF is and they can’t trust to continue…they find out EPLF was playing other cards that will let both nations in mess. They sit and discuss they should leave Eritrean people in peace since they have fought for their freedom and allow Eritrean people to know what that corrupted EPLF leadership is. The awake and went united with their brothers. NO CIA agreements, no more mafia style struggle and Meles the great planned well for good of his mother land. he showed to the world right on the ground and Ethiopia start to grow. EPRDF is doing fine but there are forces from old ex-governments who try to exploit every small weakness and EPLF is jealous instead of caring about Eritrea. day and night costly missions are tried against Ethiopian government and people while Eritreans even don’t have clean water to drink.

            what you thought about EPLF and TPLF was correct. when things changed, you are still correct when comes to EPLF but not TPLF as it is EPRDF on power not TPLF. EPLF is no more in Eritrea but PFDJ – the worst part of it – narrowed so small. and TPLF is there but expanded and became part of EPRDF.

            dawitom are there still shewing..Lol

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Kokhob Selam,
            .
            He asked a direct question and I answered it to the best of my ability knowing full well you too will read it.
            .
            From your brief description I also learned that you and me would have walked on the same road and in the same direction under different circumstances.
            .
            In any case, time changes everything, let us hope the future of our peoples will be better and brighter.
            .
            Mr. K.H

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear KH,
            I think I have interfered in the middle and I apologize. in fact it is not even a subject I want to have a correspondence I want to have with you as you are more than that in my mind. it is higher conversation that I plan to have with you. This is very lowest level where we normal and ordinary people mind of state we are in – which is a mess. After such experiences we are supposed to think in different way more advanced- which few people like you are trying to find it. I will have a say on this subject soon. I will talk to you how much we hurt ourselves by creating such cruel organization .

          • dawit

            Dear Mr. Kim Hana;
            Thank you for answering directly and honestly how yours thought
            evolved over time to support EPRDF. You wrote “A long time maybe 4 or 5 years
            ago, here at Awate, I posted about my evolving attitude towards TPLF. What I
            thought of when TPLF moved into Addis and EPLF marched into Asmara. I feared
            for the worst”. Unfortunately I have not seen the text.

            You wrote:

            “What I noticed and understood TPLF to be is what their name suggested and later on their bold design and experimentation of “Ethnic Killils” for Ethiopia. I thought they were working together with Isayas to accomplish what he promised us as “100 years of homework” to dismantle and disintegrate Ethiopia as we know it”.

            Questions: 1. Where and when did Isayas said that statement “100 years
            of homework”. Can you backup this claim with some documentary evidence or
            an eye witness account?

            2. Why do you think Isaias wanted to dismantle and disintegrate Ethiopia?

            3. What would he or Eritrea will benefit from weak and disintegrated Ethiopia.?

            4. Do you believe President Isaias has any thing to do “Ethnic Killils” for Ethiopia?
            Regards,
            dawit

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam dawit,
            .
            Documentary evidence, eye witness, if all that could help I would have invested time, looked and searched for the video clip or wherever I have read it about 25 years ago.
            However, a little earlier, you compared Isayas to Jesus Christ. If you stated Isayas as the George Washington of Eritrea, I would have accepted it as a normal belief. Jesus Christ, is just too much. That leads me to believe, if a video was produced, it would be summarily dismissed as a doctored or some other reason.
            I thought I would save my time and just tell you that the statement is consistent with his overall view and aspirations.
            .
            The 2nd, 3rd and 4th questions, the simple answer is I don’t know. However, looking at many Eritrean’s view at this sight alone demonstrates to me that the specific strain of illness clearly resides in the psyche of many.
            You, personally, may not wish ill or harm to Amharas or Ethiopians (probably because you grew up with them) but I have seen it in bold letters from many others.
            Do you really think that “peace” here at this sight is constantly sobbing and crying for the Amharas and Oromos for the noble stance of justice. He hardly shades a tear for his own people. Last week it was the Ethiopian Muslims today it is the poor Amharas. His underlining excitement and agitation is anything but a human concern. To me that is pure evil heart.
            I am content and satisfied that we live in two different countries, it is easier to handle and deal with. Hopefully there will come a time when we will leave each other alone and tend to our own wounds.
            .
            Mr. K.H

          • dawit

            Selam Kim Hana,

            Thank you again for your prompt response. Sorry you couldn’t find the evidence, but somehow gut feeling tells you the person must have evil intention towards Ethiopia and its people.

            “that the statement is consistent with his overall view and aspirations”.

            Believe me Kim I have some idea where you coming from and how you arrives in you conclusion about Isayas.

            Please read this link from a book excerpt written by an early TPLF leader, and compare it with you current thoughts about the person who was leading EPLF. Do you think Isayas was somehow instrumental in the formation of EPRDF, which you now proudly support? Reading the clip might help you to form some opinions to the other questions I posed earlier.

            https://tassew.wordpress.com/2010/01/03/relationship-between-eprp-eplf-and-tplf/

            Isayas Jesus Christ? Well if one described day and night as the Devil. I think it is fare to counter that with Jesus. Let me correct that, if that offended you. He is not Jesus nor George Washington but is Isayas, the President of Eritrea.

            .

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Dis Donc,
            .
            Much appreciated.
            .
            Mr. K.H

          • Dear dawit,

            Are you saying that the world should have bowed and accepted all dictators including Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Idi Aman, Mengistu H/M, DIA .. and others? Are you saying power comes from the barrel of a gun and the strongest takes all and has the right to do anything he likes, and this is the fate of human beings? According to the theory of Dawitism (thanks Lord, you are the only one in the world who believes in this weird theory), if Eritreans are incarcerated, extra-judicially murdered, killed at the borders by the shoot to kill order, trafficked, raped or lose their internal organs in the Sinai or drowned in the Med. Sea ..etc, it is the fault of the 5m Eritreans who failed to bow and accept the mini god, and not that of DIA and some tens of thousands of PFDJ members and supporters. In addition, you say democracy comes through the process of unopposed dictatorship, may be in a hundred years, but worth waiting.

            Can you see how irrational you are getting? Here is where “Holy Water” is indeed useful. By the way, who is responsible for this phenomenon called dawit, the country of his birth and his early life Ethiopia, or Eritrea? Simply, it blows my mind.

          • dawit

            Dear Horizon,
            I like your constant efforts to link PIA with the worst dictators of history, except you missed PMMZ in your list. If you had an ounce of rationality, you should compare PIA with Jesus Christ! PIA is the Messiah for Africa as Jesus was for the Jews, who was betrayed by his student Judah sold for 30 pieces of silver and Crucified on the Roman Empire Cross. Similarly PIA was sold for few $ AU sold PIA and Eritrea to be sacrificial lamb on the cross of American Empire. You also twisted and distorted the true teaching of ‘Dawitism’. it does not support dictators, but leaders like PIA elected by God to lead their people. But I know for people like you blinded by hate, it is difficult to visualize such deep philosophy.
            You happened to wander and ask a question to know who was responsible for teaching such a wonderful philosophy to dawit? Well it started long time ago by the famous priest teacher from the great monastery of Lalbela. As a student of Aleqa Aweqe Asnaqe dawit read the special book of psalm written by the Holly Ink and sprinkled with Holy Water. Any other question you like know about Dawitism philosophy of Znegese Ngusna to broaden you narrow horizon?
            Regards,
            dawit

  • Hope

    Wedi Andom:
    I like Opposition Figures like Vet Keleta Kidane and I refer you to him @ mesketem.net or meshrefet.com!
    Read what your Boss,Ati Sinhat Negga said if you are from Mendefera as he is trying to destroy your back bone,which seems that he already broke your back down,and made you lxxxk his boots and his behind!

  • Hayat Adem

    hi dawit,
    1) if you are cia, you have eyes and ears to know things that happened in the darkness.
    2) the quote i gave you was not from my memory. i like to think as having a good memory but i don’t think it close enough to enable me to reproduce an entire paragraph.
    3) i actually have the note from henze with me. i was quoting right from the note itself. and if i’ve it, i can say the page#, the para#, and copy the exact words, can’t i? and i couldn’t scan it, would not mean, I didn’t have it, would it? but i may scan it when i get back to town or take a pic of it and post it for you.
    4) can you introduce me to your daughters, please? i may make a better sense with them.
    hayat

    • Semere Andom

      Hi Hayat:
      Wow, dawit improved, he did not call you ms. Adam. He calling you by you maiden name is akin to the old mocking songs that women sing about a single childless woman, that is why I making bid deal of he calling you ms. Adem. It wad deliberate, cruel for those of us who understand what makes PFDJ’s heart tick.
      Oh,introducing you the American girls who studied in Harvard, the Askalu Menkerios and Fozia Hashims in waiting, it is a NO NO, you are a bad influence Ms. Adem. Poor kids, they go to Harvard and the prof tells them about freedom, about how in recorded history no good idea failed because of funding, and depending on what they studied, they may have read about those who wanted slavery to stay put and those who wanted eradicated and then around the dinner table, they are lectured on Sawa, on how slavery is freedom so they will be introduced to Sophia T instead of you, meeting will be arranged to meet Dr. Gideon. Then the conflicted mind and confusion will be debilitating and torrent of question will be posed to grad dad dawit, but his answer will be let us just go, I will l answer it in Sawa darling, no I do not need to answer it, answers will be provided the king of Eritrea

      • Hayat Adem

        Hi Sem, the Man:
        1) does it mean i’m domesticating him a bit then? it will be incredible if i can be a good influence on a hopelessly fixed man,
        2) i’ll wait until he says Yes or No. I’ll be honored if he says Yes. No is okay too. 3) but, dawit, please save them from sophia t. and cohorts. they are too beautiful, too brilliant and eritrea’s future assets to be risked to a pollutive personality..
        hayat

        • saay7

          Hey Hayat:

          I am using your space to get to Abi because I am sure even if he boycotts everyone he is reading you. Here’s my poem to him and its Google Translation. I prefer the google translation:

          ጋሼ አብነት ምነው ተቆጡ?
          ይህን ያህል ስም ይዘው ከመጡ:
          ለ 3000 ዐመት ሥልጣኔ ከጠጡ:
          ያንድ ወንበዴ ጥይት ሰምተው መሽሽግ እየሮጡ?

          And its’ Google Translate

          Oh, Uncle template angry
          So they took the name from
          For 3000 years of civilization alcohol
          Pirate heard the shot and ran overnight meshishigi

          saay

          • Hayat Adem

            Hey Saay,
            Actually the two lines spongy punchy touchy lines. Abi, unless it was planned, you need to come back to us, okay to me. There are many people here who get entertained and educated by your one-liner flying arrows but easily bored by my wordy style, mahmuday’s hateta style, Hope’s four consecutively left turning paragraph’s etc. if you want me to beg, i don’t mind.
            hayat

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Hayat,
            actually he is using the style of Abo. Abo say’s whatever he wants and still remain loved by all of us. Abo is unique! I think he want to make sure how much we love him but he will sure come, we all are addicted of this site.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Saay7,
            I love this one.
            Dear Abi,
            ኣቦ ኣንተ ጎንደሬ ምነው መግደርደር ኣብዛህ ? መወደድሽን ኣውቀሽ ነው? you know we miss you but remember እናፈቃለሁኝ ብለሽ እንዳትረሺ… Lol. the other day I prepared a poem in Amharic. My adviser ( you know እኛ ከበርቴዎች ኣማካሪ ተራኪና ኣናጋሪ ይኖርናል ) ask me today to put it here and I said am waiting for abo to appear. Ya, what is the use of putting it here if you are not around me? If so happen people here criticize how can I defend alone? come bro.

          • Eyob Medhane

            Sal,

            Yes, that is horrendous. You by yourself are becoming google translate from other languages. The difference is google probably is a little better than you and has an application, where it can be improved, but you? Not so much.. 🙂

            Now, I know Abi will be back and forgives Berhe. I know my countrymen. They are forgiving bunch.. 🙂

            Berhe,

            Stop making us angry… 🙂 Seriously, comparing awate.com discussion forum with Endabaguna is not cool. Here in awate, they don’t even give us a snack. (I have been demanding for it for years.. 🙂 ) Eritreans in Endabaguna, Shire or Mai Ayni, are cared for, fed and sheltered and they are free to move around to any part of the country and work, should they find one. That is not a “temporary” but pretty much a permanent and a much better one. Trying to minimize what Ethiopia and Ethiopians are doing and belittle it, while you give yourself a lion share of everything, which almost doesn’t exist and doing that at all times, when you speak with an Ethiopian is wrong. And Abi’s complaint in this regard is very much justified…

          • saay7

            Hey Eyob:

            Come on, you gotta give me something for using an alphabet that is banned in Eritrea: “ሠ” ንጉሥ. And don’t fan the flames of the Berhe-Abi discourse which, by discussion-forum standards, was very tame. And compared to the facebook fights you Ethios are having (Tamerat Negera vs Jawar), it was very civilized:)

            saay

          • Semere Andom

            Sal:
            “ሠ” ንጉሥ has not been banned in Eritrea. As recently as Spring 2002, the name of “ሠ” in the uni of Asmara was still written in its Amahraic version. It is good thing cus it is part of our heritage 😉
            But the “ሠ” ንጉሥ became redundant a long time ago, before Eritrea was occupied by PFD

          • saay7

            Hey iSem:

            Well, Harbeyna Shaebia can’t blow up everything:) the “se-ngus” does not appear in any Shaebia and gov literature: it’s dead. However, if I am not mistaken, I have seen it in church literature (teeth do and Catholic including “Hawkha abey alo.”)

            And I say good riddance because there were some real arbitrary rules u had to memorize on when to use it. It’s almost as bad as the Arabic for “S”, which are 3 variations.

            saay

          • Semere Andom

            Sal:
            Sure Shaebiya does not use the “ሠ” ንጉሥ, but I would expect that they would remove it from Asmara. The first thing I complained to Berhe in 2002 was, “these guys did not even remove th “ሠ” ንጉሥ from the University of Asmara name;-)
            But the “S” in Arabic is not arbitrary as the “ሠ” ንጉሥ, there 3 variations have actually different for the native speaker semer (kedereity), sebbah(morning) and selam (peace) are not the same, just like dereb (hit), dijaj(hen) are different, just like zemzem and zeneb(tail) are not the same. Gadi take it away, correct Al-habeshin Sem and Sal

          • Eyob Medhane

            Sal,

            Ha.. 🙂 I knew that sometimes you sneak peak on Ethiopian FB discourse to enjoy us yelling at eachother.. 🙂 In that fight, I found myself strangely on the side of Tamirat Negera. 🙂 Anything and anybody, but Jawar “Aba Mencha” Mohammed. :-).

            I think I should come back to awate, where people talk in their indoor voices. 🙂 It’s much cozier here…

            Abi, come on where are you?

            P.S “Aba Mencha” means “A father or the owner of the Machate” in Afan Oromo..

          • Kokhob Selam

            Wow, Eyobay,
            you make a surprise!
            Say7 is lost in his new software…and still he is using “ሠ” he don’t now we modern habesha people are trying to minimize cost and time +effort. but really are you still using ” ሠ “? Derg tried to delete duplicated letters and ሠ has gone with the king I think Tell me if still in use.
            .

          • Eyob Medhane

            Kohkhabachin

            How are you? I was in Ethiopia for sometime and when I come back I saw that you have been holding the fort pretty well so I decided to stay away. 🙂 Yes śe is back in its rightful place. I am sad to hear that you guys, however have relegated it.. 🙁

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Eyob Medhane,
            .
            Great!, welcome back.
            Abi told me that you were in Ethiopia participating in some kind of Gemgema. He said as soon as it is over you will be back; unless of course you were appointed as Governor of Badme.
            I am assuming you didn’t get the job.
            In any case good to hear from you.
            .
            Mr. K.H

          • Berhe Y

            Selam Eyob,

            I really doubt you read the back and forth with Abi and what the argument was really all about. It has absolutely nothing to do with what you just said, that I am doing “Trying to minimize what Ethiopia and Ethiopians are doing and belittle it, while you give yourself a lion share of everything”.

            Contrary to what you just said, in all my comments I have praised the generosity, Ethiopians are showing towards Eritrea. I have even said this before in this forum “there is no better place for Eritreans today than any other countries in the region, not Sudan, not Egypt, not Israel not Eritrea but certainly Ethiopia” and I think it’s still true today. The recent Eritrean graduates and the speech given by the president of Mekele attest to that.

            And this I hope will bring the two countries and people together in the future and will be a building block for future co-operations and mutual respect and benefits.

            I am not going to sway your opinion and telling you what the argument was about, you can go ahead and read it yourself and make up your mind. Then comment with the topic at hand as you wish, but don’t just take sides without even knowing what it is that you are supporting or opposing,

            Berhe

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Berhae Y,
            This is good massage and allow me to say that Abi can’t justify the debate you have with him as a reason to leave this site. If this was the reason, you know we could have criticize right at the very moment. You are doing fine and keep it up.

            Abo is very much loved here and we are all trying to call him back and you can also be part on calling him simply by mentioning his wonderful posts.

            Dear Abo, you once disappoint me by labeling me as “slave of Arabs” as an Eritrean fighter, do you remember? I couldn’t eat my meals and sleep well for entire day adn night as I didn’t expect it from you. Yet, I didn’t pull from this site for allowing you say so. I even build our friendship once again and we swim together in the ocean of love. didn’t we? it is because I love you and now please come and say HI, and let us enjoy your full of art posts.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Kokeb Selam,

            Sure Kokebe. I can do that. Everyone is telling me I am gentle and nice guy and I don’t know if that’s helping either:).

            Abi please come back everyone miss you including me, if you haven’t noticed we are plastered with Dawit for the last 2 days. A person that I never had any discussion with and avoid at all cost to save my brain cells.

            My wife says to me sometimes “minew ende Gonder tigderederaleh???” so may be it’s Gonderie thing:).

            Berhe

          • Kokhob Selam

            Thank you Berhe Y,
            he must be enjoying this post. by now ready to come with new poem Latin alphabet but Amharic words.

          • Eyob Medhane

            Berhe,

            Ha ha.. 🙂 Man, you are horrible.. 😉 You caught me.

            You actually are right. I didn’t read the conversation and I just got a bad synopsis of it…sort of a grapevine..So..I jumped the gun…

            I am sorry..sincerely…

            I have worked with Eritrean refugees.. One thing I can tell you is that they don’t feel that they are in another country and not only in Tigray, but every where in Ethiopia, no one thinks them that they are from ‘else where’.

            Anyway, you don’t have to sway my opinion at all. I still am calling for Abi to come back, but I withdrew my ‘siding with him’ immediately..

            I look forward to hear from you… 🙂

  • dawit

    Dear All

    The Monarch or King of Eritrea ‘ Znegese Ngusna’ in action. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDSDipPUUro
    Yes “Znegese Ngusna”!

    • Kokhob Selam

      Dear dawit,
      if your stand is “ዝነገሰ ንጉስና ” why care about all high political topics? those topics are costly and people are paying their file to clear all. so why not go away and relax. normally those who have the same stand they don’t care and interfere since who ever wins is their king. just wondering!

      “ዝነገሰ ንጉስና” ዝብል ባእታ ነዚ መርገጽ ክሳብ ዝወሰደ ቃልሲ ኣይምልከቶን እዩ : እቲ ምንታይ ሲ እቲ ዝተዓወተ እዩ ጎይትኡ :: ንስኻ ድማ ኣብ ዘመነ መስፍናዊ ስርዓት ግርማዊ ቀዳማዊ ሃይለስላሴ ዝሰገድካን ዘምለኽካን – ኣብ ግዜ ፋሽስታዊ ደርግ ዝፈከርካን ዝጨድርካን – ኣብ ግዜ መሰታ ድሓሮት ገበቲ ስርዓታት ሕጊ ኣልቦ ህግደፍ “ንሕና ንሱ” ዝበልካን ወጽዓን ስቃይን ህዝቢ ዘይስመዓካን – ሃገርነት ኤርትራ ኣብ ሓደጋ ኣብ ዝወደቀሉ ወሳኒ ሰዓት ‘ውን ዝሓከልካን ካብ ኮንካ :- ጸግሕኻ ሒዝካ ነቲ ዝመጽእ ዘሎ ስርዓት ተጸበ – እቲ ምንታይ ሲ ሽዑ ውን ምስቲ ዝመጽእ ስርዓት ትቆሪንካ “ዝነገሰ ንጉስና “ምባልካ ስለዝኾነ ::

      • dawit

        Kokobay, Take it easy, it seem you wrote at the height of your ‘bercha’ or ‘mirqana’. Yes dawit says always says ‘Zinegese Nigusna’. If you noticed the changes in AT headlines, they have changed considerably, from IA, ‘bloody dictator’ Satan etc to The KIng and The Monarch singing ‘dawit’s song’ or The Psalm”.

        On the other Ethiopian staff, Haile Selassie, Mengistu or Midge PMZ or PM HM Tona, dawit never considered them his national leaders. Unlike you who used to follow all the above including EPRP and Meiso, ELF all losers organizations, Dawit have one and only one king and that is PIA, from early years when I read ‘Nihnan Ilamanan’! What makes you believe you can beat PIA in 2016 that you couldn’t in 1973-1982 or 1998-2000 fabricated border war?

        Kokobay, stop chewing or smoking the leaves like goat before you write nonsense. That staff is only good for writing poems. The reality is 99.98% of Eritreans are singing Znegese Nigusna or Nhna-Nsu-Nhna. The relationship is airtight..

        Cheers

        dawit . .

        • Kokhob Selam

          Dear dawit,

          I up voted this one so readers will read it again. Lol!

          • dawit

            Dear Kokobay,
            Thanks for the up vote, but dawit is not in the business of collecting votes, dawit is only interested in telling the truth about Eritrea, just like EriTV “Serving the Truth”.
            Regards
            dawit.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear dawit,
            up voting is not meant to appreciate the post only, some time to let others know what you are saying- exposing the idea you hold – not you.

        • Dear dawit,

          Those 99.98% of Eritreans, whom you say are singing Znegese Nigusna or Nhna-Nsu-Nhna, are among the 25% of Eritreans, who according to your strict scientific criteria are the real Eritreans. The remaining 75%, who oppose the dictator and do not fulfill your criteria, are singing a completely different song condemning the emperor. Therefore, your 99.98% is still the minority.

          • dawit

            Dear Horizon,
            All those who oppose PIA are not Eritreans, that is dawit’s criteria, period. Only the 99.98 % represent Eritrea and the rest 0.02 are traitors that need to be locked in prison in order to maintain peace in the country. Did I made it clear.
            Regards,
            dawit

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear dawit,
            I really don’t want to see fallen badly. please relax and take day off from posting at this time.

          • dawit

            Dear Awate.com moderators,
            Thanks for the note, the message is well received. However, dawit denies the accusations of not respecting citizenship on the web site. Yes dawit recognizes the citizenship right of all Eritreans, he categorizes those in opposition to Eritrea and its government as 0.02% of the Eritrean population, as opposed to the 98 % that support the government. We can argue on the percentages, but trust me you are included, unless you want to exclude your self. It is true dawit denies the citizenship of all who pretend to be Eritreans, like the Horizons and others in this forum. Remember the message I wrote was in response to Horizons fabricated statistics of the size of opposition he or she presented. I believe AT Moderators took dawit’s reply to Horizon out of context to accuse dawit. Remember dawit was the one denied his citizenship by many of the prominent participants of AT. If you want fairness and equality of justice look the other way.
            Regards
            dawit

          • Lamek

            Dear dawit, actually, the contrary is true. Let me make my stance clear first. To me Eritreans and Ethiopians are brothers and sisters and we should never discriminate against each other. Setting the record straight is okay with me but it shouldn’t be used for prejudice and looking down on people like you do here day in and day out.

            tes made a classification of ‘Eritreans’ who support IA based on several criteria. I have a slightly alternative model. Here is the list:

            1. Flat out dumb people
            2. People whose only source of information is Eri-TV
            3. People who know better but they support the regime for their own personal gains and access to resources back in Eritrea. This is the worst group and they need to be dealt with accordingly post IA Eritrea. You belong to this group and you are facing Ela Ero once we get rid of you papa IA.
            4. People who are worried that there is no one else who can keep weyane at bay. I can sympathize with this group a little bit but they are more wrong than the others. They are just ill-informed but not malicious.
            5. People who are half Tigrayan and Half Eritrean. This is a huge chunk. They suffer from the worst form of identity crisis and inferiority complex. I know very many people in this group. They don’t know that we know they are half/half so in order to look more Eritrean than the rest of us, they go above and beyond to antagonize us and cooperate with the regime to oppress us. They want to belong to so desperately so they go way overboard to prove that they are as Eritrean as anyone or even more Eritrean.
            6. Amiches – these people were never Eritrean before until Melles kicked them out. They got so mad at weyane that they can’t think clearly any longer. Specially, the younger generation are very bitter so they support IA in hopes that he can dismantle weyane.

            So in conclusion, you are totally wrong about who supports IA and who doesn’t.

    • Abraham Hanibal

      dawit,
      With your “Znegese Ngusna” bs how can I be sure you didn’t support the HS and Derg regimes when they were killing Eritreans and burning their villages? After all you are Ethiopian-Eritrean, according to your own admisssion?

      • dawit

        AH.
        Yes dawit supported Ababa Janhoy, and Guad Liqemember.. Yes dawit supports PIA, Yes dawit is an Ethiopian-Eritrean! tadia min yitebes?

        • Abraham Hanibal

          dawit,
          That is it; here we have the self-proclaimed enemy of the Eritrean people-Ato dawit.

  • Lamek

    Dear all Deki Keren. Congratulations!

    Your beautiful and historic city now owns a city bus, one bus. By next year, Keren will have an airport and three universities. Nikid tray! SMH!

  • Hayat Adem

    Hope,
    IA was doing extensive touring in the Gash-Barkha region in 2010. I was watching his convey while he was visiting roads, bridges, micro dams. When they were leaving the Gerest dam, he hopped his car to the front passenger’s seat, reached his pocket, fished out a white tissue paper, attended his nose area on both sides of his nostrils and threw out the used tissue through the window handing it over to the wind. The camera caught the action and it was broadcast as is. If you haven’t seen that, go and watch in the youtube for yourself. That was very symbolic moment to show how this bad man is littering the entire nation, physically and morally. Tell him to stop littering you and Eritrea, will ya?
    Hayat

  • AMAN

    Dear Awates,
    Selam , Selam , Selam.
    Who is this Jared in Tigray history of civilization ?
    Is he the contemporary and the one who was playing
    the Organon alongside with Mozart and Bethoven ,
    when Tigray was one of the world powers with Germany
    and France ruling the world before US America was found
    or discovered ?
    Please Enlighten
    As a national I always read Tigray history of civilization
    and I read so far up to the history of king Kaleb the Tigrian
    who was ruling over Portugal , Spain and southern France
    and who was a very close friend of king Karl of Germany
    and king Frederic of Spain but I couldn’t find or come across
    of this Jared or sometimes spelled Yired or Yared .
    Can you please help enlighten me and / or may be other
    readers too.

    • Dis Donc

      Aman.
      With this kind of thinking, I doubt if Madam Hayat wants to be friended with you.

      • Hayat Adem

        Hi DD,
        This is too deep for me to capture the message. Aman is already my friend if he is not rejecting me. Also, I don’t base my friendship on a shared thinking chemistry.

        • Dis Donc

          Dear Madam Hayat,
          Alright! Let’s see if you can help explain to him about Caleb, the king who ruled over Portugal and a close friend of the German king Karl and Spanish king Frederic. … and of Yired or Yared?

          • Hayat Adem

            Dearest DD,
            I Madam Hayat kindly ask you that you to address me as just Hayat without prefix.
            History is a tough call to me, my love and my knowledge on history don’t match. Aman is fine with the listed personalities except for Yire or Yared. Yared was an Axumite genius (a Saint for some, I guess) who invented the Ethiopian church musical nota. People like Amde or Saay could say more on him. But, I’ve this link for Aman. http://www.tadias.com/11/29/2007/st-yared-the-great-ethiopian-composer/

          • Dis Donc

            Dear Madam Hayat,

            I, Dis Donc, will not do that.

  • Kokhob Selam

    Dear Hope,
    you are dealing with practical people and you should manage,do, talk as such. Horizon me and all others are not interested who is who but what is on the ground. you are defending the useless group and we are all providing you proves. We don’t care if you are a christian or Muslim,high land low land from TPLF,ELF,FFFF, Ethiopian Eritrean etc. See, people have changed their way of thinking and are no more partial. I will die for Horizon but not for you yet Horizon is Ethiopian and I am Eritrean – the reason is simple he is for truth and loves to see people in peace.

  • Lamek

    Hi SA. You are spot on.

    I don’t believe at all Eritreans have suffered directly as a consequence of the sanctions. Disarming PFDJ is a good thing but we have people like hope and others who equate PFDJ with Eritrea. PFDJ is an isolated criminal entity which doesn’t resemble anything like Eritrean as they have no values and morality.

    The hopes and the Mahmoud salehs can see the end of PFDJ and they can’t stomach that. Their goal is to save PFDJ and one way to start is lift the sanctions, get aid from the EU, keep Ethiopia at bay, keep antagonizing the opposition and support PFDJ in their war against the COIE.

    The number of deki suwaat who left Eritrea is a staggering number. If I know a half a dozen, I can easily extrapolate that to hundreds of Deki suwaat if not thousands. This regime is so used to using Eritreans in their prime and throwing them to the garbage bin when their physical or mental ability is diminished. With that they also penalize an extended family like you correctly described. The contempt these guys have on Eritrean lives is incomprehensible. Every single one of us is just a number. Everything can be taken from you with no notice. There is not a single Eritrean family that hasn’t suffered at the hands of EPLF and PFDJ. Rebuilding the nation and its infrastructure will be extremely difficult but repairing the fabric of families will be a formidable task in post PFDJ Eritrea.

  • Lamek

    Hi Hope, as far as I can understand, Saay’s position is that DIA brought the sanctions on to his regime by himself. The sanction was avoidable but DIA dared the UN to sanction his regime and the UN couldn’t be happier to oblige. But I don’t think Saay necessarily advocates for sanctions. He, like myself, I believes that the 2009 sanction being a military and travel embargo, the effect on the overall economy and the Eritrean people is way exaggerated. It has had minimal effect on the lives of individual Eritreans. What is impacted is the empty pride of DIA.

  • Mahmud Saleh

    Selam SAAY and all

    I promised this morning that I would come up with a Hateta regarding the toothless UN sanctions. I’m presenting a haphazardly composed material. But the theme is:
    1. Sanctions have not been effective in exacting the resulted sought. Their collateral damages on civilians outweigh their intended targeted outcomes.
    2. The UN did not have a cause to impose sanction on Eritrea. Eritrean leaders bellicose posturing would not be enough to impose sanctions on a nation. Since the UN is an instrument of the powerful, it does what powerful nations and particularly the USA wants it to do. But once the cheatings and deceits are clear, should not the sanction be lifted? No Eritrean support to Alshabab has been established; Eritrean-Dgibouti case is an inter-sovereign nations’ dispute and it’s handled by an arbitrator that both countries picked. Therefore, there has been no reason for the sanction to be imposed, in the first place, and once that has been clear, the UN should lift it
    3. There is nothing for Eritreans to get muddied in a geo-political fight that does not serve Eritreans’ causes: human right issues, and matters related to justice and rule of law… The sanction serves Ethiopia and the USA. Period. Below follows, a long Hateta for the serious readers.

    UN vis-à-vis Eritrea

    It all started with this:
    “The UNSC sanctions Eritrea for its support of “armed groups undermining
    peace and reconciliation in Somalia and that it had not withdrawn its forces
    following clashes with Djibouti in June 2008,” and it imposes “ arms embargo on
    that country, in addition to travel restrictions on and a freeze on the assets
    of its political and military leaders” Resolution 1907 (2009). So, bear in mind
    the cause of the sanction and its content.
    http://www.un.org/press/en/2009/sc9833.doc.htm

    Seven years later, it ends with the following:

    ““Taking note that during the course of its current and
    previous mandate the SEMG has not found any evidence that the Government
    of Eritrea is supporting Al-Shabaab”
    If you want to read furthermore:
    ISEMG says clearly that it has not found ANY evidence that the government of Eritrea is supporting Alshabab. Now, you may take the present continuous tens of the verb and say, “Well, just because it is not supporting Alshabab now, it does not mean that the government of Eritrea has not supported it in the past. To dismantle that argument, let me bring several
    evidences

    The same sentence contains” during the course of its current and PREVIOUS MANDATES. OK, it has not found any evidence during its present or past mandates.
    -Venezuela (holding rotating chairmanship of UNSC): ““…because the negotiating process had not taken certain points a view into account. Venezuela had requested more consultations to reflect various points of view in a balanced and dynamic text but had been surprised to find that negotiations had reopened within a small group of members. That recurring practice affected the transparency and inclusiveness necessary to guarantee the
    participation of all members; he said, demanding respect in the Council for the points of view of all members, be they
    permanent or elected.” [The process was hidden even from the chairman of the
    UNSC. Why? ]

    China: “The Monitoring Group’s report had indicated no evidence of Eritrea’s support for Al-Shabaab
    and the Council should adjust its sanctions with a view to eventually lifting them.”
    Russia: “The Russian Federation had concerns, however, about intrusive provisions that undermined national
    sovereignty, some of which were based on facts not confirmed by the Monitoring Group. Experts should not transcend
    the purview of their mandates, and should base their reporting on facts, he stressed.”

    Compare it with the USA: “…expressed strong support for the text, which mandated that the Monitoring Group continue its work and reflected the Council’s understanding that the international response in the Horn of Africa must be
    comprehensive in order to be effective. Somalia had transitioned from “State failure” to State building, which was why the
    United States supported language concerning stronger, more transparent legal frameworks. The United States continued to support the commitment to eliminate funding for Al-Shabaab, including by renewing the interdiction of
    charcoal exports.”

    Note: Look how charcoal (a Somalian issue) is singled out as a source that might be used by Al-Shabab, but nothing concrete about Eritrea. Regarding Eritrea USA representative mentions only, “and upon Eritrea to allow
    a visit by the Group. Its refusal to engage must change before calls for the lifting of sanctions could be considered.” This demand is what countries such as China and Russia stated were intrusive. But countries have bigger fish to fry, so they don’t use their rarely used veto; and in the process if you use Eritrea as a bargaining chip, why not.
    To give whoever cares to read this Hateta, let me quote a paragraph from the last draft Feb, 2016. It shows the dynamics among members of the UNSC, of course, the presence of pressure and coercion from the USA and its allies is assumed. The paragraph:

    “References to Eritrea in the draft resolution were a source of contention, with Venezuela among others raising objections
    regarding the phrasing on whether or not there are links between Eritrea and Al-Shabaab and the interrelated issues of Eritrea’s cooperation with the Monitoring Group and transparency in public finances. Venezuela was apparently supported to varying degrees by Angola, Chad, Nigeria, China and Russia. Some Council members preferred that the draft resolution definitively state there are no links between Eritrea and Al-Shabaab, while other Council members insisted the draft resolution should state that the Monitoring Group did not find evidence of links between Eritrea and Al-Shabaab. Venezuela and others also argued that Eritrean government finances are a matter of state
    sovereignty, while the US and others insisted that public financial transparency is required in order to verify Eritrea’s compliance with the sanctions regime. One compromise in the final text shifts the emphasis from calling on Eritrea to show transparency in public finances including through cooperation with the Monitoring Group, to simply calling on Eritrea to cooperate with the Monitoring Group, including on public finance issues.”

    Look how watered down the resolution has become. Now, all they accuse Eritrea is to incriminate itself (perhaps, falsely) on an accusation they levelled to it 7 years ago. They could not prove their
    accusation now they want the accused to let them prove or disprove the verdict they had passed on it 7 years ago. I mean it’s just a travesty of justice. Here, it’s not IA or PFDJ who is standing accused, it’s Eritrea. Because, there are no frozen assets of “political and military leaders” as the initial embargo stipulated. But a nation’s right of self-defense is denied by imposing embargo on arms. We should never politicize the sovereignty of a nation. Whether we like it or not, until the day PFDJ is replaced, it’s the sole government in Eritrea. Now, whose assets are frozen, which companies were targeted? I really want to know. Therefore, the sexy coinage of “targeted sanction” really is targeting a
    nation.
    http://www.whatsinblue.org/2015/10/adoption-of-a-resolution-on-somalia-eritrea-sanctions.php

    Madote.com has presented a short gist of UNSC 2016 proceedings. Madote.com could be ignored as a pro-government, but you will hear it from the mouths of the UNSC members. Wtach the video, if you have not done so.
    http://www.madote.com/2016/02/video-eritreas-gained-significant.html

    Russia, France, Angola, Senegal, China, and Venezuela said it was clear there had not been Eritrean support to Alshabab. USA dropped its “Eritrea supports Alshabab” accusation and instead settled for Eritrea to let SEMG in. That’s how bad this stinky business has become. Why do Eritreans get muddied in a business that has nothing to do with domestic record of the government, and get stinker in the process?

    SEMG is a political tool for the USA and its clienteles. I’m bitter at the GOE for entangling Eritrea into this web of deceits and misinformation. At the same time, I feel responsible to weigh up the goals, processes, and effects of sanctions and
    actions of foreign bodies on my country. Just because I hate the regime, I should not be expected to support biased policies of UN/USA towards Eritrea. Recently, the terms “targeted sanctions” have been coined to evade criticisms that
    sanctions have not worked to change regimes or make them change their behaviors. On the contrary, they have bolstered regimes’ explanations that the targeted countries are under attack thereby exploiting citizens’ real anxieties
    and furor towards what they perceive as unjust actions by powerful countries. It happened in Iran, Iraq, and Libya, North Korea and many other countries and entities.
    PS: I know I can’t sift through materials the way you do it. I’m not even rebutting your position. I’m just explaining myself. The fact that we have a stupid government does not make Ethiopia and USA pushed and UNSC endorsed sanctions smart. Eritreans who oppose the government should stay clear of designs that are intended for regional and global hegemonic forces.

    • tes

      Selamat Mahmuday,

      The good thing is now you have been filtered out. Ok let me list what you are upto now:

      1. You concur withe the national service program and you are against the “Stop Slavery campaign”
      2. You are against sanction
      3. You are only opposing policies of PFDJ while you approve its legitimacy
      4. You are against any claim done by justice seekers, such as sexual harassment and mistreatment
      5. You are against opposition camp who are stationed in Ethiopia
      6. You do not acknowledge public grievances such as Afar and Kunama

      Well, so far so good. You were deceiving innocent people by your hallucinating hateta when they are void and repetitive carrying the same propaganda message. Now as naked as you are Awate Forum has clearly identified you who you are.

      Well Mahmuday, we will see who will win. The old generation like you or the young generation.

      tes

    • Berhe Y

      Selam Mahmood,

      You know there is a saying “you are entitled to your own opinion but you are not entitled to your own facts”. Please keep that in mind and can you please clarify / respond to the following:

      1) How do you explain when the Ethiopia invaded Somalia that the entire leaders of the Islamic courts, Al Shebab and others packed and left for Eritrea. Eritrea did held an international conference where over 200 guests attended (probably paid everything for them). Among them, Awyes, who was a leader was in Eritrea and Er-TV have reported his attendance. He was on the International Terrorist list at the time.

      2) How do you explain Eritrea / Djibouti where actually people have died and held hostage. Eritrean president has denied any sort of confrontation and he denied the where about of the POW. Djibouti after it it tried to solve the issue and tried all options was forced to go to the SC. There was a press meeting from the Ambassador how he tried to call the President Eritrea many times and he was rebuffed.

      3) Eritrean government only agreed to mediate with Djibouti by Qatar after it was afraid the UN actions that may follow. But since then nothing of concrete has been done on the side of Eritrea, no POW exchange / where about etc..

      So what’s the point making blanket statements like “Since the UN is an instrument of the powerful, it does what powerful nations and particularly the USA wants it to do.”.

      Please check gedeb news archive and you will see news items, where Isayas was personally involved in loading / and sending arms to Somalia.

      Berhe

      • Mahmud Saleh

        Dear BY
        Your questions are answerable. I had them in mind, but didn’t have time and space to delve into blunders the GOE did sonce they have been debated many tI mes in this forum. I commented on them several times, but I could give you later today a short reply. My contention is that the motive, processes and results of the sanctions imposed on Eritrea have been shrouded in political deceptions and it has nothing to offer for the camp that struggles for justice. SEMG itself said it didn’t find a link let alone catching IA loading weapons for Alshabab. It said it had no evidence linking Eritrea with Alshabab. If you have that evidence, well. you better known it’s badly needed by SEMG. I will come to the rest sometimes later.
        Thanks.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Mahmuday,
          This long hateta is to confuse people who were not following the issue from the beginning. Nothing else. Berhe has the points of the fact.

          Second SEMG proved that the regime was supporting the alshebab in its first report. What they didn ‘t prove it ss to whether the regime is continuing or not in their last report to the security council. So please do not mislead the public. Actually Saay gave the chronicles of the fact last time. For God ‘s sake do not try to satisfy people on both side of the argument.

          Third if you want to argue you could say at least that the relationship of the regime with Alshebab were not enough to justify for sanctioning the regime. Otherwise Saay and Berhe have facts on their side.

          regardd
          Amanuel Hidrat

          • Semere Andom

            Hi Emma:
            In the CBC report about the slave labor in Bisha mine, Mark Kelly tracked a Somalian man who was the go between PFDJ and Al-Shebab.
            There is a tendency by some that the UN targets and picks on Eritrea just out of the blue, if we had a sane government it was easy to avoid the sactions and although the UN did not do it for us, we should welcome the sanctions as an extra arrow in our quiver to battle PFDJ and the as Lamek said the sanctions themselves have no impact on the lives of Eritreans.
            The slavery of NS, the lack of free movement, the angst of the youth are not helping the people to unleash their ingenuity Left alone, the Eritrean people will go to Middle East on their own, go to Sudan and drive tracks or do whatever jobs they find and will solve their own economic problems. But PFDJ want to starve the people so they will be pre-occupied with their survival, unable to lift a finger against the tyrannt.
            Ethiopian occupation was a paradize compared to PFDJ and anyone who want PDJ removed must support the sanctions, the excuses of sanctions will hurt people is false, even if it is true, are we now afraid of hunger, while we did not fear death,mainming during Ghedli

        • Berhe Y

          Selam Mahmud,

          I was going to respond similarly but both AH and SA said what I wanted to say. What I would like to add is, the Eritrean government if it has facts on it’s side it should allow journalists and SEMG and others who are “accusing” to go in and find out for themselves.

          I hope you do not buy the respond from the president like, it’s not our culture, it’s not or bahili hatew getew he talks about it. If you really believe what he says, and you are making your argument based on that, then I am sorry it sounds “wala tinfer ember tel eya”.

          Mahmud, please try to understand…Eritrea is a free country and it has been a free country for the past 25 years…There is no need to act like a rebel movement any more. Ethiopia, Uganda, Rwanda are countries who are being ruled by the same leaders / fronts who took power. But all of them are able to transform them selves to proper governments and they are making relatively good progress for their countries and their people.

          When you say SC and UN are toothless and they works for the super power etc..as if Eritrea is Palestine is really sad…

          The cold war is over….Eritrea is free country….Ethiopian are gone…how long do you want to act like a spoiled child..you need to grow up…You know the facts..and the only person you are fooling is yourself. Eritrea made blunders…is NOT enough after one being in power for 25 years….We need a normal country, which is led by normal people.

          We need a statesman….not a pathological lair…and a petty thieve…that you proud to call “My president”.

          Berhe

      • Kokhob Selam

        Dear Berhe Y,
        ተዓወት ተዓወት ! ጻባ ኣስቲኻኒ ::

      • Hope

        Selam Berhe:
        Few facts:
        -Eritrea and Ethiopia have been in war,directly and by proxy-
        -Ethiopia created,sponsored,funded ,etc..including known Terrorists against Eritrea
        -Eritrea has a right as an Independent Nation to support or not to support any one and to defend itself by any means possible.
        -The Conference for the ARS was a Noble,which could have contributed positively for Somalia and Horn Peace and had it succeeded,there would have been no Al Shebab and no terrorism in Kenya and Uganda
        -Al Shebab was not a Terrorist Org but became one after the invasion of Somalia by Ethiopia,Uganda and Kenya
        -Me Awaeyis was NOT. A Terrorist but a Nationalist,who stood for a united and strong Somalia.The fact that the so called ” International Community ” labelled him as such does not necessarily make him a Terrorist.
        Case in point ,the fact that the Canadian Gov labeling the EPLF a Terrorist Org does not make the EPLF a Terrorist Org.
        The only problem as Mahmuday told is that what matters is Geo-political Interest of the Powerful.
        “Either you are with us or with them”!
        There is nothing in between
        !
        Justice?
        Kidding me?
        Eritrea did not comply with that New World Order,hence,paid the price.

        • Berhe Y

          Selam Hope,

          You know the war ended 15 years ago but you are still saying, weyane, weyane. How do we say it “bzeben wube zSememes wube endabele mote”. Weyane knows that Isayas will never set foot in Ethiopia or “senket elu durkuKit badime kem zetmles”.

          So what is that it will take another 100 years of in state of war, which I am sure if you had your own children you wouldn’t suggest life sentence for them.

          What I do not get it, you tell us day and night weyane this, weyane that but you expect the solution to come ONLY from their good will. Because you can’t do nothing about it, you just wait and wait and in the mean time, santim wedi santim Nacfa kitqoSr tHadr.

          Wurdet natatkum mewedaeta yeblun.

          Berhe

          • Hope

            Dear Berhe:
            I just stated few facts as they are.
            If stating the truth and the facts,not just my opinion is ” Wurdet”,let it be,brother!

        • Kim Hanna

          Selam Hope,
          .
          “-Al Shebab was NOT a Terrorist Org but became one after the invasion of Somalia by Ethiopia, Uganda and Kenya”
          .
          The above statement is one of your considered points. Do you really believe that or are you trying to play SAAY. He says it with a little slight of hand or a little dance to fudge the fact, you say it with a naked bold untruth. At the very least, if I was a Kenyan I would have called you names.
          When you change facts that you know to be untrue to fit your arguments, do you feel a little shame. I am now beginning to think that you and Mahmud Saleh are infected by the same virus.
          I am loosing hope, Hope. It seems the illness is spreading.
          .
          I just hope and prey, Abi will describe this phenomena in a couple of rhyming Amharic sentences. Sometimes that takes the sharp edge of things.
          .
          Mr. K.H

          • Amde

            Selam Mr KH,

            On this one, I think Hope is right. Al Shabab came into being after the Ethiopian incursion/invasion of 2006 when the deposed ruling Islamic Courts Union splintered after military defeat. In any case, it started off a resistance to the Ethiopian presence in Somalia, later morphing into the Al Qaeda inspired Jihadi zeitgeist.
            It is hard to tell if its initial primary cause was nationalist or jihadi. Definitely fighting against the “Christian” and “non-Somali” Ethiopians is a win-win for them as far as being able to self validate their cause.

            The mystery is really not why Isayyas decided to support them – he got Somalis willing to die in the Ethiopian killing business for a relatively cheap price. The mystery is why he decided to persist in it after the diplomatic cost became so evident. It just points to that toxic combination of arrogance and ignorance of his, which unfortunately is taken as the standard of manhood to be feted and emulated by his sycophant symphony.

            Amde

          • saay7

            Selam Amde:

            I agree with your second paragraph–with one exception: the part where you say “he got Somalis willing to die in the Ethiopian killing business….” Have you met Somalis? You can’t get them to do anything they don’t want to do.

            I don’t think those who support the position of Isaias Afwerki can tell me which one of the following was what he was going for:

            1. I don’t think the UN will ever sanction me;
            2. If the UN ever sanctions me, I will get around it: it will have no impact on Eritrea;
            3. If it does sanction me, and if I cant get around it, the UN will come around to seeing things my way and lift the sanctions.

            No matter whatever reservations they may have had about a junior state department official (Jendayi Frazier) by the time Hillary Clinton met with Sheikh Sherif Ahmed in Nairobi and, in a joint press conference, threatened that if Eritrean doesn’t reverse course “We are making it very clear that their actions are unacceptable. We intend to take action if they do not cease,” you would think Isaias & Co would take a pause and engage her but they doubled down and 3 months later the sanctions came.

            saay

          • Eyob Medhane

            Hi Amde,

            No you are wrong, brother. Al Shabab DID NOT become into being, because of Ethiopia’s invasion in 2006. That narrative was created by westerners that opposed the war in Somalia, because they believed that the US and it’s allies will be bogged down there, as they have in Iraq. They wanted to use that narrative as a pressure issue to make their governments to reconsider their support of Ethiopian government. Mostly leftist New York Times and the type journalists. Shabya also encouraged that narrative to everyone that talked to it.

            Here is the sequence of the evolution of Al Shabab.

            Al Ithad Al Islamia early to late nineties. (If you remember, they were doing small scale gorilla attack in Ethiopian somali region)

            Split into two and the radical half of Al Ithad Al Islamia called itself Hizb Al Islam and morphed with Union of Islamic courts in Somalia in early 2000.

            2004 Union of Islamic courts got traction and started to control much of Souther Somalia.

            Beginning of 2005 they started threatening openly to expand to Ethiopia.

            December 2006 Ethiopia decided to dismantle the group, before it got stronger and carries out its threat on Ethiopia. Hence, the “Ethiopian invasion of Somalia in 2006”.

            After the groups defeat the pragmatic wing of UIC decided to make peace with Ethiopia. The radical wing that was the inherited from Al Ithad Al Islamia and Hizb Al Islam, opposed the pragmatics decision and renamed itself as Al Shabab (the youth) and went out on its own.

            2011/12 Al Shabab pledged alligence to Al Qaeda..

            That is the chronology, sir..

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Berhe,

        I was waiting for 4 days Mahmuday to respond to your questions. Unfortunately, he can not avail to do that. Mahmuday loves to make blanket statements,. When it comes to detail he always contradict himself; And don’t forget his “toblahata” sometimes drives him out of his way. The sober, warm, respectful, fair minded , and judicious Mahmuday disappear and reappear frequently. When he disappear he talks from the playbook of the other side with Geteb, hope, Ted, Gud…. etal. When he reappears he talks from the playbook of justice seekers, shows sympathy to the victims , calls for smooth peaceful social revolution, and demand for mutual respect in our engagement. So remember to identify him at which site he is, at a given period of time and the subject matter at hand.

        Now Mahmuday (my friend), am right? if not shot your lose bullets that does not kill me, because at times we are reminded that we are in the same fronts to bring social justice.

        regards,
        Amanuel Hidrat

        • Berhe Y

          Selam Amanuel H.

          I don’t think my comments and questions are any where close to what Saay is saying with regards to the sanctions. But I see that Mahmuday is not interested (not that he doesn’t get it) but absolutely not interested to read the facts, same goes with Gheteb or Hope.

          How do we say it “Ab zey semAka debri aytmahlel” so there is no point in continue to argue.

          What’s really sad is, how much are they able to tolerate the reckless adventure of one lunitic man which is leading the country and the people to grave yard.

          Berhe

    • Hayat Adem

      Mahmuday,
      Selamat, and it seems it is not Spring yet. I will blame it on the SEMG.
      1) “Sanctions don’t work”; I would argue they did with IA regime. They didn’t democratize Eritrea and help domestic suppressions ease. But that was never their purpose. The purpose was to tame IA’s regime from supporting Shebab and all other anti the internationally recognized transitional government of Somalia. Then, to tame it from its aggressive standing with Djibouti including settling the border/POW issues. After the sanctions, IA either downscaled or stopped anti-Somalian government activities, including supporting al-Shebab. So, it worked. By the way, the UNSC sanctions were not only about al-shebab although that was central, it is about all meddlings in Somalia. IA moved from denying the conflict in Djibouti to accepting Qatari mediation. So again, it worked. In any case, my only point here is this sanction on taming the Eritrean government has brought results. And of course, let’s not confuse it as if it was a sanction placed in order to help Eritreans on easing their burden. It was not the purpose of this sanction. It was not placed to help the opposition with their struggle to remove the regime either. It was to force IA to modify behavior, and it has shown undeniable results. Saay in his previous comment has listed examples of IA’s modified behaviors as the result of the sanction.
      2) On Alshabab- you screwed up your argument big time. SEMG have had piles of material evidence on IA regime’s support for al-shebab in the past. Go back to the reports of the same SEMG 4 years or earlier. You will find tones of evidence linking the regime and al-Shebab, and other extremist groups in Somalia. For example, the finance that was being channeled by the regime to al-Shebab through Kenya was very detailed with names, dates, and amounts. Let’s see what you quote from the SEMG current report and how you used it. First to the quote, “Taking note that during the course of its current and previous mandate the SEMG has not found any evidence that the Government of Eritrea is supporting Al-Shabaab.” This is a direct quote. A couple of lines later, you interpreted the preceding quote quite creatively, but dishonestly, nonetheless: “…during the course of its current and PREVIOUS MANDATES…” Your enhanced emphasis here is well noticed not only with your capitalization of the word “mandate” but in your pluralization of it to “MANDATES”. Why you wanted to do that only yourself know. Your subsequent message from wrongly presented message to show as if the Group is now saying it was unable at all find evidence from the very beginning of its mandate to the current one. Of course, the SEMG can never say that. It is not in the business of revisiting or reviewing the acts of the IA regime backwards retroactively all the way to the start. It is mandated to recall and revise its past reports. Those are already reported, voted, approved by the Sanction Committee and archived in the UNSC system. There is no mechanism to unarchive decided and settled cases. The assignment of the SEMG is always forward looking because the sanctions have to correspond with real time violations or improvements, not to work on backlog time. Even if it found a new evidence material that establishes more of IA’s violation back, say in 2009, my sense is SEMG is not going to use it for its current mandate report. The Group has had 7 or 8 mandate periods. What SEMG saying is it didn’t find evidences during this current mandate period and the one previous. The only reason it mentioned the one mandate that preceded the current one to show pattern and continuity comparatively. The same statement was of “no evidence’ was reported in the previous (2015) too. If the report was negative, the Group would have said, “the regime has continued its support to al-Shabab during the current period too…” This is to explain the current behavior in relation to the previous year just to show continuity of behavior. It was NOT referring to all its tenure time. It can’t because it is not dealing with the past all. When the UNSC renews the mandate of the Group it is only to continue monitoring on real time, not back time. IA’s regime is not being assessed for its past involvements but it is being monitored if at all it continues responding to the punishment and its trends of modifying behavior.
      3) The reason you said as to why the UN should never be concerned with the Eri-Djbouti conflict is funny: “Eritrean-Dgibouti case is an inter-sovereign nations’ dispute” and because the two countries agreed to be mediated by Qatar. Because it is an inter-sovereign nations dispute? Yes, that is exactly where the UN comes in- when two member states enter dispute and also when one or both brought the issue to its attention. Djbouti has been accusing Eritrea before the UN all the time. SEMG has been mandated with this monitoring responsibility before the arrival of Qatar. The Eri-Djibouti issue is a border/POW/cross-border meddling issue. It is still lingering. If Qatar mediation worked and solved the problem, the report would have been exactly that.
      4) Please understand that SEMG’s mandate also includes any action from the regime in destabilizing the region including Ethiopia. Ethiopia’s activities are not within its mandate unless it finds it selling Arms to the Eritrean regime. That would be violating the sanction decisions and Ethiopia would be reported as violator.
      Hayat
      PS:I haven’t read what others wrote while posting this, so my apologies if there are repeated points.

      • Hope

        Ms Hayat:
        Leave aside your coded debate and argue reasonably and rationally.
        For the record,here are few facts about the motive and agenda of Western imposed Sanctions:
        1)They are well intended to hit those,who are (perceived or real)against their interest one way or another

        2)The sanctions do not ,for the most part,affect directly the Regimes but the poor people and the National Security Intetest of the targeted Nation
        3)Over all,they are biased ,selective and with evil intention and motive!

        Why Libya,Iraq,Syria,Eritrea,Cuba,Venezuela,and Iran and not Saudi Arabia and Bahrain?

        • Semere Andom

          Hope:
          I did not read what you said in the deleted comment. But am sure you were mad when you heard the truth.
          I know you stole the nick truth fro me and you used it, so now tell me the truth, do you believe that USA, UN and all the countries that voted for he sanctions targeted Eritrea because the very existence of the dictatorship Eritrea scares these nations. Eritrea is no body. It cannot even protect its citizens. I will say it again, they did not do the sanctions for us, but it is a welcome, PFDJ gambled with Eritrea and its future and under the spell of lunatic IA and your blessing it thought i twill gamble with the world and it was slapped with the sanctions. It is that simple
          Now you either side with the people of Eritrea, who are suffering by irresponsible actions of PFDJ or come out of the closet and support PFDJ The game of in and out of the closet, the hide and seek game is rendering you in the pantheons of the stupid group of the Nitriccs and the cruel and self admitted sexual harasser dawit, and the denier of zemene HGDF, Gheteb

          • Hope

            We’d Andom:
            No clue what U r talking about.
            The message deleted has nothing with you or truth!
            I referred you to mesh refet.com to read my favorite Vet,Mr Keleta Kidane talking the truth about Sebhat Begga’s evil agenda against the “Back Bone” of the Regime ,aka ,Eri Christians and Highlanders,to the extent of destroying them thereby completely erase the ERITREAN Pride and Heroism,at least in his naked day dreaming.

            You are included in that group,aren’t you?
            If so ,tefa’eka !

            Basically you are reading unwritten stuff!

        • Hayat Adem

          Dear Hope,
          1) The sponsors of the sanction have no reason to determine or perceive that Eritrea would stand against their interests in more ways than Saudi or Bahrain would. You will not be able to mention areas in which Eritrea inherently or for pragmatic reasons was in a trend of acting or perceived to act against western vital interests. That is only a mantra you have heard repetitively from the PFDJ corner. Eritrea’s interests have never been incompatible with the interests of western world; or with the interests of those in our neighborhood. Do not repeat this argument unless you can explain it sensibly. I understand you got this argument into inner part of yourself by way of repetition from them. But don’t think that approach works always and with everyone.
          2) True, sanction may not always affect the regimes targeted, and sometimes unintendedly affect the untargeted people. But this one affected PFDJ. That is why it scaled down or quit its involvement in Somalia. That is why it rejoined AU. That is why it has a pending application to readmitted to IGAD. That is why it agreed to be mediated by Qatar in its dispute with Dji. etc.
          The Eritrean people couldn’t have been affected by this sanction because it is only targeting armament embargo. So, it has never targeted finance, trade investment, business, other sectors of the economy, travel etc. Again, don’t say “people, people”. Whenever you say “people are affected”, we understand that you are worrying about your IA carrying his monkeys in Kisha on his back.
          3) Selective? Of course. They have never been meant to be blanket-uniform. Biased? Yes. But on this one, they give IA a fair chance chance to to save himself. Evil? My friend, you have to understand the rules of the world. IA has to understand and play by the rules as required. He doesn’t own the world. He has to learn to fit, or else, he can go mooing to the Moon* and leave Eritrea for us. We know exactly what beautiful nation we can make of Eritrea, a shining country of hope (not Hope) loved and respected by the world.
          Hayat
          ————
          *Speaking of Moon, I got one joke that was told to remind how Eritreans have been immigrating and spreading to every part of the world. But it is not as is, I expanded it a bit to make friend Semere smile, but you will know what I added as you read. Below:
          Armstrong landed in the moon aspiring to be the first human being to have landed on Moon for the first time . A minute after he landed and uttered his famous line, “Little step for a man, giant leap for mankind,” he was welcomed by a moon resident Eritrean:
          – hey Armstrong, enkuaE bdeHan meTsa’ekha!
          – what? is that a Moonese? who are you?
          -that was Tigrigna, we preserved it. My name is Semere Andom. I used to be Eritrean many years ago. I’ve other Eritreans with me here on the other side of that hill? But, we are no more Eritreans now. We call ourselves EriMoonians.
          -wow, you came from Earth? How did you get here?
          -we were ordered by our crazy president to run away as far as the moon.
          -wait a minute…(communication device activated)…hey, guys at the NASA headquarters, listen to this, I FOUND PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE. THEY SAY THEY CAME FROM EARTH, FROM A COUNTRY CALLED…em em… em… Mr Andy, what was the country you said came from again?”

          • Semere Andom

            Hi Hayat;
            LoL:
            ” But the other Eritrean in the other side of the hill is refuting Mr. Andy’s comments, he is saying that they were not ordered by the president to go away, rather they have discovered moon with their Sahel made rockets.NASA and USA are a few years behind.

            “Houston can you verify the comments from the other Eritrean, if this is true, it is disturbing, because we cannot sanction the terrorist actions in the moon. Mr Andy’s claim of being told to go far away is good in many levels, our allies in Europe will not burdened with the refugees. But there is an other former Eritean who is diagreering with both, he said that he is here because he is visiting, neither in discover mission nor deported, but moon is his other country, where his kids were born and studied in the 100yr old school UofM

    • saay7

      Selamat Mahmuday:

      I don’t want to pile on because Berhe Y, Hayat, Semere A, Amanuel have already Getimomkha alewu:) I will only say this:

      1. Our friend Habtom Yohannes has this quote he uses to remind us to keep in our memories all those who have been victimized by the gov of Isaias Afwerki. It is by Milan Kundera (The Book of Laughter and Forgetting) and it is this: “The struggle of man against power is the struggle of memory against forgetting.” It appears that dictatorship of Isaias Afwerki has succeeded in conducting a very successful mekhete against your memory.

      2. As a military veteran, I find it surprising when you get surprised that your enemy chose to use his preferred weapons, instead of the weapons you would like him to use.

      3. Your standards of evidence are pretty elastic: when it comes to the Eritrean opposition, you need nothing more but the flimsiest to damn them for the gravest crimes; but, when it comes to the Eritrean government, nothing less than a smoking gun will do. I think if you heard a videotape confession of IA you would say, “forged!” 🙂

      4. The distinction you are trying to create between Al-Shabab and the Alliance to Reliberate Somalia (ARS) is non-existent. Many of those present in Asmara for the ARS confab were the ones giving the orders for the road-side bombings and political assassinations in Somalia.

      5. The 2009 sanctions on Eritrea was unique in many ways. It was the first time that the African Union called for sanctioning a member state: typically, the AU is opposed to sanctioning any African country. Recall that when the West sanctioned Libya in 1988 (over Lockerbie bombing), it was the AU (then OAU) who opposed it AND, in 2000, passed a resolution demanding the the UNSC lift it. It was also the first “secondary sanction”: imposed on a country for violating a sanction. Do you see a single African country demanding that the sanctions be lifted?

      Now, why is this? Is it because “Eritrea is a threat of a good example”, as our PFDJ friends tell us? Is it because Africans hate Eritrea? I submit to you that it is because Eritrea is presided by a reckless man who has a huge estime of himself as a king-maker and is willing to make extremely bad decisions, partly because he has a warped view of the world-as-it-is, partly because he has gotten away with many other adventurism, and partly because he occupies a position where there is no penalty, no accountability, for being wrong.

      The warped view is driven by the bad advice from radicals who used to live in the West and now surround him (the two Yemane’s, Kisha) and by the total ineffectiveness of groups chaired by the Ghidewons and Sophias, is that he genuinely believed in 2007 that the era of the US dominance was coming to the end with the emergence of Indian, China, Russia. Watch this video from that era. Just Part 6: I like you and I am against torture as an effective way of changing people’s minds:)

      http://meadna.com/business%20page/MEADNA-VIDEO/us-eritrea1.html

      The “I can get away with it” is driven by the fact that he has particularly in Sudan and Ethiopia? Remember the National Movement for Reform and Development (NBRD) and its umbrella, the National Redemption Front (NRF), which were Darfuri orgs funded/trained by Chad, Libya and Eritrea? Remember the Beja Congress and the Free Lions (Rashaida) of East Sudan, both of whom were COMPLETELY owned and operated by IA? Remember the United Front for the Liberation of Darfur (UFLD), patched by IA? JEM?

      IA would arm and train the Oromo Liberation Front (OLF) and send them to Somalia to fight, where they would be chased away by the Ethiopians. Then there were the Ogaden National Liberation Front (ONLF), then the EPPF, then the Tigray National Alliance for Democracy (TNA), the predecessor to DemHT (then led by Aregawi Berhe), then Ugugomo and ARDUF (Afar…)

      So, in his mind, why not all the armed militants in Somalia?

      saay

      • Mahmud Saleh

        Ahlan SAAY, Emma, Hayat, Behe, et al
        Today is for my kids, they have been waiting for this comedian. I have no idea who he is but they have been waiting for him: Fousey. Well, I paid it and I must go. I will come back to your replies. SAAY you have already radicalized me (wink, wink).

        • Kokhob Selam

          Dear Mahmuday,
          Do that please. have a nice time. remember you remain all-time Awatistas. don’t forget to come soon with new hateta. where could I find lessons that Saay7 wrote if you long Hateta was not there … and even the …”The struggle of man against power is the struggle of memory against forgetting.”

          by the way, if you get time try to find out what is going on in the field of Eritrea, I heard PFDJ security forces are getting lessons from our fighters , Sudan and Ethiopia are reporting to IGAD against Eritrean “government ” etc.

          Thanks Mahmuday the great !.

        • tes

          Selamat Mahmud,

          Wonderful withdrawal. I told you recently you have been filtered now. saay7 added you with TBS wrongly. You are in fact a hyper propagandist and deceptive that Awate Forum has ever witnessed so far.

          tes

          • Hope

            Hamed Edde De’a’ Tes as Mahmuday is here to stay!
            Heart broken?
            Call 9-1-1 !

      • tes

        Dear saay7,

        Aha, your favorite Awatista is on his bye-bye phase.

        Your rebuttal is well respected and all appreciation goes to you.

        tes

        • saay7

          Selamat Tes:

          While I thank you for my rebuttal to Mahmuday, why-oh-why would you want him to be on his bye-bye phase? Here’s the deal, the lesson learned from one of the greatest accomplishments of the Opposition, which was organizing the demonstration that you attended in Geneva last June: people want the freedom to belong to the organization they want to belong to, without being forced into some “unity.” We want, within our Opposition, a coalition of Eritreans–and that includes people who don’t see themselves as opposition or as PFDJ.

          Mahmuday, to my reading, is a man who has turned his back to the PFDJ but has not fully embraced the conventional views of the Opposition on two major items: the way forward in finding a lasting peace with Ethiopia AND the role of international organizations including UN in Eritrea’s agenda. This is something that reasonable people should be able to discuss without being told that there is a minimum threshhold that has to be met for someone to be considered credibly opposed to the ruling regime.

          saay

          • tes

            Dear saay7,

            As much as I respect your “No one should be left behind” regarding to Mahmud Saleh, I am confident to say “you are misreading him”. MS has never gave-up his back to PFDJ rather to PFDJ policies. I have traceable evidences to enrich words.

            MS is among those who are campouflaged under the justice seeking camp and who opposes every move done.

            If you know the Morse Codes, that is exactly what MS does. MS knows the language of the justice seekers and he has been using them effectively since he landed here.

            And my “bye-bye phase” line is strictly political term that I wanted to address for he can’t deceive us anymore. He can stay as much he can continue his propaganda but I assure you he is in a wrong site. awate.com is the perfect place to expose and make them naked for those who are not true advocates of justice.

            I won’t say more than this.

            tes

          • saay7

            Selamat Tes:

            I respectfully disagree. Mahmuday is one of the rare gems of awate forum and the opposition should be honored to have him in its ranks, on his own terms.

            All this stuff that Mahmuday and I are arguing about–sanctions on Eritrea–is 5-7 years too late and will, sooner or later, be just a historic footnote. What Mahmuday is saying is, “Dear opposition: have your own agenda; don’t just second whatever agenda the West and its organizations adopt.” And who can disagree with that, really? Where I differ with him is this: when the West does whatever it does (for its own agenda), and the Isaiasists support or oppose it (for their own agenda), then the Opposition should have that right, too (for its own agenda), without being made to feel that it is selling out the country for doing so. Until we have the right of citizenship in Eritrea, we will exercise our rights as international citizens of the world. I think Mahmuday is saying “hey, don’t get too comfortable with the latter or you will forget the former.” Well, true, but it applies to every Eritrean, including the Isaiasits, who feel free to petition the world but would never petition their government.

            Saay

          • tes

            Dear Saay7,

            I don’t think the opposition are honored to have him here except those PFDJ sympathizers. Until you showed your difference with him very recently in a more transparent and explicit way most readers were not able to differentiate your political approach and his. Hence he got a safe landing place simply because you absorbed his political line. Even I was wronged for quite long time to put you on the same wagon.

            Dear saay7, from political argumentative point of view, MS presence can have its own merit. For example, it can provoke strong insightful discussions on issues that matters. Your recent deep and most respected rebuttal is as a result of his provocative lines of thinking. However one needs to have a transparent political conjuncture so that it is easy to track any discourses. This is what I am exactly into.

            My sole objective is then to filter him out and put in a cluster that he perfectly fits. Look for example lines dropped by Ted. MS perfectly fits with Ted’s political approach. Though MS has more matured approach to annihilate his own reputation what is produced as a cream of his argument is not that mush different than that of Ted. They both are worshipers of PFDJ ideology.

            Dear saay7, do not take me wrongly. I’m always a believer of provocative political methodology. I love discussions and hot debates. I always try my best to have a lively discussion in this form. Sometimes I might be out of norm nevertheless I produce a kinetic energy as much as possible
            so that no state of political stagnation exist.

            My opposition to MS might have moved recently to a different angle. This deviation in angle is done based on persistent study. And from what I concluded, MS is nothing more than a deceptive propagandist.

            tes

            + What happened to Abi? Despite his insult this guy is good with his poetic lines. Forward my greetings. Recently he admitted that his motive to blackmail me was just to give me a hard-time. Ah, I don’t think he is that mush productive. I have too much tool kits to over-come Abi’s tactics. Hopefully there to see him sooner .

          • saay7

            Selamat Tes:

            I don’t know what happened to Abi but now I have at least a theory. In his last message to Gentle Berhe Y, he addressed him as “Wardia”, which is his affectionate term for Moderator. Abi has convinced himself that Berhe is a mod and that the mod was telling him see how we at awate give u unconditional entrance to Eritrea and your gates to Ethiopia are full of conditionalities. This was the last straw for the hump on Abi’s camel and it finally broke.

            So, in many ways, it represents the Eritrea-Ethiopia tension, often based on assumptions (Berhe is not a mod) and stubborn pride.

            Just a theory.

            saay

            PS: Mahmuday is awesome and is as transparent as any I have ever read. He is, of course, like all Eritreans including you, Hammed-Hfun:)

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Hey dearest tes
            Firstly, you deserve a Prize for uncovering me. I have been confusing many including my bad friend Semere Andom. And I admit I’m a paid PFDJ propagandista the awatista. I get a quintal of Sugra from Dukan Hidri; a tortoise load of gold from Bisha; and a Kutsha from Zara mine…mashaallah…albereka wasEa.
            So what? You don’t get the fact that this forum is not your property. Abi wrote you a nice advice. In case if you missed it, it said, “Please learn basic social skills”, OK, things such as hello, marhaba,,,and communication skills. ጎበዝ ኣብ ደረቱ ዝበሉኻስ ከምዚ ናትካ እዩ ተስፊት። በትረይ ሃቡኒ፡ ኣይትሓዙኒ….ሻፎ ምውጥዋጥ ደኣ’ሞ ቁምነገር ኮይኑ ያኢ?
            It’s fine my friend the confusion and the false self-belief will soon evaporate. I’m a responsible person; I never write for emotional gratification or for gaining notoriety. I would not waste my time on things I don’t believe in. I can go back to my comments and dismantle all your lies about me, line by line, because I’m confident trails of truthful and principled comments I have left will absolve me. For now, you are my least worry. I really believe you will contribute positively. You will learn appreciating conflicting views. PFDJ is criticized for the same attitude you are displaying, and I would not have any hope in an opposition that’s cloned in your current attitudes. But I know what opposition means. I exercise my right the way I see it fit. The best outcome is for you to understand that we are not supposed to think the same way; that it’s OK to have differences. If not, I will keep setting my own agenda. Keep chasing me, my friend. Eneho feres Eneho mieda belu labamat. Brute force and rage change nothing. I hope you will find your bearing. You are a bright young man. I imagine you discovering the next draught tolerating Bultug, Mashiela…corn…Teff…and improving the nutritional value and preparation of our Akelet/gaat that SAAY the Asmarino does not appreciate. OK, buddy. Nothing but respect.

          • dawit

            Dear Mahmud and Saay,
            I noticed you two are having difficulty in taming tes from ‘The jungle’ in France, to discuss issues in a civilized world. I didn’t know if AT awards for uncovering PFDJ agents? Who got the prize for uncovering ‘dawit’ as PFDJ supporter?
            Cheers
            dawit

    • dawit

      Selamat Mahmud;

      Keep on pushing, deep in the ‘planet illogic territory’.. Enjoy the following video.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=87DalJ-EkBY

      My Ethiopian people have a saying ‘telba binchcha be-and muqecha’.

      • Hayat Adem

        dawit,
        if you are totally wrong, and you tell the one who is totally right “you are wrong”, what does that make you? double wrong- hanza wrong! that is the illogic of planet illogic.

    • tes

      Selamat Mahmud Saleh,

      Here is a new and fresh regional intervention policy in excerice by PFDJ.

      “After four years of silence, in a letter from Eritrea, she turned to the Libyans with a call to resist the new conquest of the West and declare themselves the successor of her legendary father – “the mother of Libya.”

      Gadaffi’s daughter from Eritrea

      For full report: http://www.sott.net/article/312799-NATOs-new-problem-Aisha-Gaddafi-her-fathers-daughter

      tes

  • Dear Hope,
    In the future, Eritrea minus DIA, the PFDJ and their foot-soldiers will live in peace and cooperation with Ethiopia and the countries of the region. The above entities are the enemies of peace & stability in the region, and Ethiopia will never cooperate with the present regime. You see, Ethiopia does not look for peaceful relationship in the wrong place, with the wrong people and at the wrong time.
    You should have known your capacity when you tried to play the David and Goliath game with the US. You can accuse others for your failure as much as you like, but nothing is going to change.
    You do not stand for the Eritrean people, but for a megalomaniac dictator, because like you, he hates Ethiopia so much; i. e. the enemy of my enemy relationship.

    • Hope

      Dear Horizon:
      You cannot talk about things you have no clue about.
      PIA is a scapegoat so as to weaken Eritrea and ERITREANS and the Silent Majority knows about this and that is the silent majority is” silent”!
      Read this:
      -“The Back Bone of Eritrea and the Regime,the Highlandrrs and Christians ,should be destroyed by all means possible”!
      -“The simple way to weaken Eritrea is to boycott its Ports and its Economy”

      -“The easiest way to deprive Eritrea of its Human Resources and ithe EDF is to build Refugee Camps in the Tigray Camps and set up the ERITREAN Youth to leave Eritrea”!

      -“The Best Way to make Eritrea collapse is to keep the status quo of NO WAR and NO PEACE Policy”!

      The Covert and Overt TPLF Policy!
      But history has proven it otgerwose and it repeated itself that Eritrea,despite all the above ,it has stood FIRM against all ODDs!

      And all those ,who attempted to kill Eritrea are either DEAD and/or are DUING and will keep dying!

      • Dear Hope,

        DIA is not a scapegoat; much more, he is not a saint. Every Eritrean finger of “j’accuse”, except that of the people who support him with their life, is directed to one and only one point, at the center of which is DIA, his PFDJ and his diehard supporters. He is the worst thing that has happened to Eritrea and the whole region. The silent majority is silent because it is scared of the dictatorial regime. Do not equate their silence with support or acceptance of the regime. In dictatorial regimes, silence is a way of survival.
        If all the above points you mentioned are true, what has the regime done to curtail them? Do you think that implementing a life-long military service, failing to provide water and electricity to citizens, closing educational institutions, hosting any wannabe Ethiopian opposition, letting loose human traffickers, chocking the economy etc, are the right solutions to withstand the so called woyane conspiracy against Eritrea? Or, do you accept that what the regime does serves its purpose of staying in power at the expense of the Eritrean people? You have cultivated over half a century an Ethio-phobic and Ethio-hate-mongering atmosphere, and it is not helping you at all.

      • Kokhob Selam

        Dear Hope,
        sometime you need to go out of your cage and see around..every nation is becoming a witness that PFDJ is disturbing the world – even Sudan participated and confirmed it,

        “የምሥራቅ አፍሪካ የልማት በየነ መንግሥት (ኢጋድ) ተቀማጭነቱ ናይሮቢ ከሆነው ሰሃን ፋውንዴሽን ከተባለው የጥናት ማዕከል ጋር በመተባበር ባካሄደው ጥናት፣ በአፍሪካ ቀንድ በሚካሄደው ሕገወጥ የሰዎች ዝውውር የኤርትራ ከፍተኛ ባለሥልጣናት እንደሚሳተፉ ማረጋገጡን አስታወቀ፡፡ ” not good news at all but this is what IGAD is saying.

  • Lamek

    Dear Hope. Ezi zibahal zelo Ga’At ብእንጣጢዕ ድዩ ውላስ ብጠስሚ። ነዚ ከየረጋግጽካ ክዝረብ ኣይካኣልን እዩweyo zigaat terekibusi mashela do bltug do tiblu alekum. Fino emo kaa hilmi eyu

    • dawit

      Lamek,
      Normally it is eaten with butter (Hesas) and Sour milk (Halib Hqan or Rgo) with berbere. As Hope indicated Fino is the refined carbohydrate, often the cause for colon cancer and Type II diabetics. Fino is good for bread or chapatti.

  • Dis Donc

    Dear hope,
    I am glad that you are learning fast. Economies do well when the consumer has confidence in it, however draconian the policy may be. The country Eritrea scares me let alone her economy. Now imagine how they feel for those who live inside it. Economic confidence is a direct result of public accountability. Here in IA’s era, not only there is zero public accountability, the people are absent in decision making. They are not even consulted, to begin with. There you have it!! There is no other magic wand to it.

  • tes

    Dear Show,

    I have a concrete background information in the early transition phase of the hotel. Please read a response I gave to Gebru.

    Zeressenay has put his money in hotel that has paid blood of innocent people. And every justice seeker should be aware on this issue.

    About MS, I will stop fighting with him when he stopped his EPLF propaganda. Point.

    tes

  • Atsn’haley

    Awates,

    Amb Cohen has struck again, this time no effort to hide who he is lobbying for…

    http://www.cohenonafrica.com/homepage/2016/2/22/red-sea-report-continued

    FS.

    • Dear Atsn’haley,

      Mr. Cohen has the unholy mission to save the dying regime in Asmara, for which he is well paid. He says not a word about the actions of the dictatorial regime, but he accuses Ethiopia and the US for being stupid, because they are not serving the interest of the Eritrean regime. He calls Djibouti an unstable state, gives it the name “Somalia East”, insinuating that it will end up like Somalia proper.

      Every three months or so, he writes his now famous short article about the horn of Africa politics, to show that he is doing his best to serve the regime in Asmara. He seems to like to speak in riddles. Last time it was “the two countries exploiting the Red Sea”; and now “Ethiopia’s Red Sea eggs”, whatever that may mean.

      Mr. Cohen takes Ethiopians for fools and tries to give them unsolicited and camouflaged advice that serves the interest of DIA and the PFDJ. The future for Ethiopia is not as uncertain as he tries to portray. She is connecting by roads, railways and electricity with all the neighboring countries except Eritrea. The ports of Lamu in Kenya and Berbera in Somaliland are future candidates to serve Ethiopia. Therefore, Ethiopia has no reason to worry about what Mr. Cohen has to say now and then.

      • Peace!

        Horizon,

        It is always good to be optimistic and positive, but some times when facts on the ground do not support that, it is difficult to make a compelling argument. What’s’ happening in the Oromia region is taking the country into very dangerous and unknown situation should the minority government continues to put bullets in the head of peaceful protesters. The regime has declared the protesters are terrorists and has deployed heavy artillery in the streets to pacify the unrest, which sadly indicates the possibility of peaceful solution is very slim. I agree that Ethiopia has enough leverage to play an important role in the region, but I am afraid the internal problem doesn’t seem to go away easly and any time soon. I think the country needs referendum to ensure its unity and well being of its citizens.

        Peace!

        • Dis Donc

          Dear peace,
          Let me just say this; they are at least protesting with or without violence and permission. On the other hand….

          • Peace!

            Dear DD,

            Do those people need a permission from a looter to protest against looting? Really! The same thing on the other hand too.. no brain drain here:)

            Peace!

          • Dis Donc

            Dear peace,
            Kingdoms are fine examples of outdated systems.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear DD,
            Yes indeed ” kingdoms are outdated system .”but we (Eritreans) seem

          • Dis Donc

            Dear Emanuel,
            I once lived in the west indies where an English derived creol is spoken. They have a proper word for people who support tyranny, in the face of adversity or man made. They call them facey!!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear DD,

            ” facey ” is good one. It will be my vocabulary. Thank you

        • Ted

          Hi Peace, Herman Cohen is worried sick his beloved Ethiopia is not to be. If one is not TPLF, knows he is all about Ethiopia.The lip service doing about Eritrea Is nothing but stabilizing Ethiopia. There is nothing wrong with that but you need to ask where his heart will be when push comes to shave.
          Hi DD,
          if Ethiopians were brave enough to protest without permission and get killed, don’t you think the blame should be on the “coward Eritreans” not willing to take advice from “diaspora warriors” to do the same.

          • Peace!

            Dear Ted,

            Not surprisingly, the praising of Harbegna Weyanai is coming to an end soon unless our cyber opposition groups adapt that it is ok to kill peaceful protestors if Ethiopia does it. ኣቱም ስባት ገለ ክንስምዕ ኢና።

            Peace!

        • Dear Peace,

          I know very well that the regime in Asmara and its bedfellows (the Diaspora Ethiopian Oppositions), who oppose and hate everything Ethiopian, whether it is peace or development, are dreaming day and night to see social and political upheaval in Ethiopia, so that they can sneak in and benefit from the demise of Ethiopia, whether this is power or her resources. They believe that there is only one entity in Ethiopia (the TPLF) that is on their way; and if it falls, then Ethiopia is a ripe fruit ready to be picked. Those who are sitting in Western capitals and cities, fattening their …, and call upon the Oromo people to come out with machetes and chop-off the head of Amharas (Jawar Mohammed et al), who call themselves Oromos and not Ethiopians, are sacrificing Oromo children to satisfy their power hunger.

          At the same time, we have a government that has found an effective weapon “terrorism” and is ready to strike at all sorts of dissent, and has been found on many occasions to use excessive force. Peaceful demonstrations are to be encouraged; but when properties are destroyed, and as in the last case in Arsi, members of the police force are killed by armed groups, then we are talking about a different issue.

          If I have understood your last sentence, you are saying that Ethiopia should carry out a referendum to remain a country or break up into its many mini states. If so, you make me laugh, my friend. What the Eritrean regime could not do by force (i.e. dissolve the Ethiopian statehood), it is asking Ethiopia to do it herself. This is much more true for Eritrea than for Ethiopia, because many minorities in Eritrea are afraid that they will be swallowed if things continue as they are today. In the long-run a country’s internal policy decides its external policy and vise versa. It might not be perfect today, but not hopeless. It can improve.

          • Peace!

            Dear Horizon,

            Given that you are obviously a smart guy, it is shockingly illogical for you to use PFDJ as an excuse to justify weaknesses and shortcoming of TPLF government. Last time I tried to bring into your attention about the starvation of twenty million of Ethiopians, and your response was literally, so what there is a drought in Eritrean too, and now I raised the current issue in Oromia region, your response was you guys wanted to loot Ethiopia. I mean come on man! Could you please try to focus on the subject rather than being awfully judgmental. You are here debating and discussing Eritrean issues as if you’re Eritrean, and yet no one has judged your motive perhaps because it doesn’t really matter. It is just an individual opinion, right?

            It is confusing that you support a government that encourage its elites loot the country, kill peaceful protesters, torture descendants, interfere in religion matters, manipulate elections every five years, and yet you are blaming the victims, and lecture us here how PFDJ is bad or even worst for that matter.

            As for the referendum I suggested, it is stated clearly in the constitution. Why would anyone deny those people should they choose to secede? Wasn’t that TPLF’s idea in the first place to secede from Ethiopia and join Eritrea when the two guerrillas were good friends?

            It has been three months since the uprising began, and so far the government has failed to find peaceful solution and put the situation under control. If persists, which I hope not, I am afraid the army, which make up of majority Ormos, will break up and all out war seems inevitable. The forty million Oroms have determined to restore their dignity and looted land, which it seems beyond the capacity of well trained and equipped young Tigrean commandos to do the job. please stop blaming Jawar, and other individuals for the mistakes your government is committing.

            Peace!

          • Dear Peace,

            For me, Ethiopian politics is not “either we are with the government or against it”, or ethnic party oriented, nor do I see the TPLF as the sole government of Ethiopia, despite what Eritreans would like to say, but a member of a coalition government of the EPRDF. I support or condemn the government depending on its merits and failures, what it does for the people or against the people. I do not have a blanket support or condemnation attitude. My main criterion is the Ethiopian people.

            You have to read the Ethiopian Constitution (article 39) what it says about seceding from the union. It cannot take place on the demand of some group of people. It is not the unanimous demand of the Oromo people. If you expect civil war to occur in Ethiopia, then all you have to do is to wait until that day.

            Finally, as long as Ethiopian issues are discussed on awate.com, provided that the Administrators allow me, I will be around. You should know that Ethiopian and Eritrean politics are intertwined and you cannot separate them.

      • AMAN

        What Horizon do not understand or seems do not know is that
        he thinks physical connection of infrastructure ( like road, rail…)
        does the trick and never worries about social infrastructure
        connectivity and/or call it chemical union if you will.
        Contrary to his nick, his horizon is always narrow and shallow.
        And such erroneous result as a result of his miscalculation always
        ends up serving the opponent. May be he thinks in reverse.
        Understanding people’s history belongs to individuals or strong men.

  • AMAN

    Dear Awates citizens
    Greetings,
    Meanwhile, I would like to share it with you that;
    My other Net on the other side or page WIKI
    captured a lot of valuable and important information
    about you all . Some previously known some newly
    uncovered treasure.
    So now I am in the process of organizing this 100 TB
    size DATA it into macro and micro data to make it
    available for the Libraries.
    Thank you all for your time and cooperation.

  • Hayat Adem

    L.T,
    1) Seriously, these thing of “low esteem” puzzles me a lot, because it is true that some people, from the highland towns of Eritrea, and many more from from the Amiches believe in the mantra. But I never thought a philosopher like you would fall for it. Why would Weyane’s have a lesser self-esteem while owning the most enviable history and past glories aging millennial.
    2)Yes, IA said that, but he told us in his last interview that he was lying. Talk about low self-esteem, it manifests itself in the liers and killers from the get go. He didn’t start killing people in response to challenges in ghedli, but before it. He joined ghedli after killing a judge in Asmara and never stopped to date. Serial.
    3) Don’t change the subject. I can hate Arabic and still have a right to talk about the economy. But again, you are wrong. I never said I hate Arabic. I said we should pick it for its functional power instead of its cultural importance. And I explained my reasons. But I guess, you are bringing it here for the known diversionary tactics. Monkey style argument, I would say.
    4) Stick to the economy and tell us why you think all is going to be okay.
    hayat

    • dawit

      Dear Hayat,
      Could you elaborate the “killing of a judge” with some supporting evidence? This is the second time you mentioned it in two days. ‘Where is the evidence”.
      dawit

      • Hayat Adem

        dawit,
        My evidence is a note written by former CIA man.
        Hayat

        • dawit

          Hayat,
          Who is the former CIA man who wrote the note ?and where is the note ?, when and where did he wrote the note? Please AT’s intelligent and bold lady bring the evidence otherwise I (dawit) will consider you another dumb and coward liar or fabricator of fact.

          • Hayat Adem

            dawit,
            1) What else is really new here? You have been describing me with those or similar names long ago before I mentioned IA as judge murderer; whether or not I had evidence.
            2) How about applying similar standards for yourself, dawit? Not just once, you have been saying and still saying a lot of things without a shred of evidence. Have you ever called yourself “dumb, coward liar and fabricator of fact”?
            3) If I answer your questions positively as who wrote the note, where, when etc, you have the info, will you be recognizing IA as a judge killer while he was a civil citizen, or you still be excusing and defending him even on that point of murder crime?
            4) I’m not in a situation to scan the hard copy note, nor was I able to locate online, but I can answer your questions and also give a quote literatim just the part I am discussing from the paper. The author of the Note was Paul B. Henze. He was a CIA Chief Station (Ethiopia) in 1969. That exactly matches the time we are referring to, a year or so before EPLF was founded. So, these man was there at close range to those events. But he wrote this Note in January 2000. And on the 2nd page, 2nd paragraph, he said the following.
            5) Quote in:>>>
            “The differences lay in their [EPLF verses TPLF] origins and, as they evolved, in the character of their leaders. After he murdered a judge in Asmara, the Chinese communists selected Isaias Afeworki as a promising prospect for gurilla training in the early 1970s. When he came back from China he applied communist techniques–intrigue and force– to create the Eritrean People’s Liberation Front (EPLF) by overwhelming half a dozen other Eritrean groups to form an authoritarian Marxist-Leninist movement. Other EPLF leaders benefited from training in Cuba. The EPLF was nurtured by money and arms from communist proxies and Arabs until it began to capture large amounts of Soviet arms and equipment from the Derg in the mid-1980s. Documents from EAst German archives describe Isaias being welcomed in East Berlin as ‘Comrade’ when he came to seek help in persuading Moscow to shift support from the Marxist Derg to the Marxist EPLF. He only began to realize the futility of trying to build a communist Eritrea when the Soviet Union was well on its way to collapse in the late 1980s.”
            Quote ends<<<<
            Hayat

          • Semere Andom

            Hayat;
            You are trying to rationalize with dawit? It is ok with dawit to disappear all the ppl hisPFDJ disappeared without any proof and now he wants proof from you. When you give him the evidence he would say that is ok too because IA has the vision for present day Eritrea. Oh, it is even ok for harras women against their will, stay away from him, he may extend his slim arm even if the cyberspace awate.com is between you and him.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear Hayat,

            It is futile to rationalize with an individual who believe on “znegese nugusna “.

            Regards

        • Hope

          Ahlen Ya Habibti Hayat:
          Tell us more about the negative role of Paul Henz on the Legitimate ERITREAN Struggle!
          What about the role of his Cousin,Hank Cohen?
          Here is the interesting part of your quote:
          That.PIA ,in fact ,was for a full blown Independent Eritrea contrary to the assertions made repeatedly that he was and has been a Living CIA Agent.
          The role of China has refuted every gossip we heard about PIA.
          As far as ” Killing a Judge”, I would like to know more about the Judge and his Role in Asmera.
          If it was part of the Fedayeen Business ,it was part of the Stuggle.

        • Hope

          Addendum :
          Hello Ms insider:
          Ms Hayat :
          Tell us more about the Role of Anthony Lake,please .
          What about the role of the UNMEE Indian Commander,Madam?

    • Guest

      Hi
      If what you saying is true why is that all the images what they trying to show the world about tigrai is like not the truth by the way i know tigrai and i have some blood with rhem.

  • Kokhob Selam

    Dear show,
    Please include me on this list . I am requesting you kindly and I am sure others also have the same feeling. we in awate have different colors but the light that interprets is one. we are all important. AMAN was ignored by all but she only announced she care, she even care about you and didn’t go crazy replying to your cruel post above. she said “please shew mercy or finish me” . Say sorry now. Learn from her.

    • Hayat Adem

      KS,
      That is the most gracious thing I’ve ever read. heart warming!
      hayat

  • Hayat Adem

    Show,
    Please show mercy or finish me:)
    hayat

  • Kokhob Selam

    Dear AMAN,
    the other day you told us you are TPLF, didn’t you? If so, who will answer the equations if you don’t? Saay7 “ወሪዱኒ “ይብል ከምዚ እንተረኸበ:: You are bold in saying anything you want and at times you crush your stand.

    • Dis Donc

      Dear star,
      I doubt if it was him. Because if you notice his alias is AMAN and the other guy was Aman.

      • Kokhob Selam

        Dear Dis Donc,
        may be yes but normally I think he is the same as in writing the post if you notice he never go to the end of the line. I don’t know why, but it is always short line writing, Ha, ha good way of investigating who is who. really see how short are the lines of Aman and you will know he is the one.

        Aman has become like those intelligent and creative artists who talk to themselves.

  • Hayat Adem

    Dear Daniel,
    I understand where you are coming from. Well, like you said time will tell, and I’m not saying I am right, you are not. I shall leave it there.
    From your last note, something you said caught my attention, “You will be amazed at the capacity of humans to adopt.” That is when you you want to tell me how Eritreans will learn in time to fit into the new currency manipulative scheme by the government. If that opinion is coming from an independent expert, I will have no qualms. But if you are from the government and any of the decision making groups, it bothers me a lot. It embodies a subtle bragging like the ruling body can come with any kind of draconian policy and impose it on the Eritreans, and expect no problem as the people would learn and adjust. PFDJ has had many extreme and contrarian domestic policies, and always gets away with them. It tried it in its international dealings, but the push back was immediate and punitive. But on its domestic issues it has now morphed itself, people have an elastic capacity to adjust to any kind of rules. The contempt of PFDJ against its people and their capacity to revolt is so visible.
    Hayat

    • Daniel

      Hayat,
      If one assumes trench mentality, one has but dispensed all capacity to reason.

  • A.Osman

    Dear AT and al,

    The regime allows businesses to withdraw only 20,000 Nakfa monthly (roughly $400) from their accounts

    individuals can only withdraw of 5,000 Nakfa

    based on above xchange (roughly $100)

    Anyone who keeps cash amounts of more than 3000 Nakfa would be committing a serious crime

    (roughly $60)

    I don’t understand how with such limitations some are trying to sell us all the move is to fight money laundering, corruption, tax evasion…etc. It is time to pause and think before talking all the non-sense to defend the indefensible. After reading Hayat’s example about the farmer selling his cow, I posed a question to my father how he would ensure that a cheque is not fake or that the person issuing it has the amount in his deposit. He gave me an answer about ensuring the cheque validity before giving out the product that is for sale…..when you consider the thousands of daily transactions you know it is an impossible task that the banks cannot handle. All the government policy defenders, forget the big talk and explain the basic day to day dealing, how it is supposed to work?

    ————————————————————————————————————————————–

    While holding Nacfa worth $100 is a crime, if I am not wrong, you can take into Eritrea up to $10,000 dollars without the need to declare it. Rather than dealing with cheques, the logical thing to do for a business people is to switch to $$$ or other hard currencies for their daily business. That is the only way that I can think that will allow businesses to survive and it wont be long before Nacfa is released to the market in the process that the government buys up some of the hard currencies. Forex may be briefly controlled by the government, those who are now pushed out will be back in business in no time.

    Regards
    AOsman

    • Atsn’haley

      AOsman,

      [might be far fetched] but I sense this thing is going to fell apart and either the gov is going to realize they are playing wrong and thus remove most restrictions (even perhaps redistribute the money they collected) or it will be too late and that would be the beginning of the end…(contrary to some people assertion that this could never lead to uprising from ppl).

      FS.

      • A.Osman

        Dear Atsn’haley,

        I am not expecting any kind of uprising from this mess (I hope I am wrong), the announced salary increase was timed to deal with such risk.
        All the nonsensical rules on limits will not be followed and the government will not enforce them. Such rules led to the hoarding problem and moving forward instead of holding Nacfa in large amount, the logical and safest thing to do is buy hard currency. While this is likely to reduce money hoarding, it is likely to weaken Nacfa exchange rate.
        Regards
        AOsman

    • PTS

      A.Osman,
      I believe what you said is now the official policy, except with many unanswered questions. For example, how does one reconcile being allowed to withdraw 5000N and at the same time it is a crime being caught with 3000N? Second, does the government pay salary in cash or check? Third, people travelling to Eritrea, how do they use their non-nakfa currency? are they forced to convert it at whatever rate the regime decides? and also, are non-residents excempt from using chech and they can make large purchases using cash?….These are some of the many questions.

      • A.Osman

        Dear PTS,
        Let me guess:
        1. 3000 limit, a rule that will be enforced.
        2. Salaries are likely to be paid in cash, especially for EDF members (remember how they kept them in their bases when collecting cash, the last thing they will do is create a reason for people to go AWOL).
        3. $10,000 if undeclared means it will be exchanged to Nacfa on black market. You don’t really need to exchange it at all, many businesses will be happy to do take your hard currency at a good rate deal.
        4. As people adjust, the government will screw them up – welcome to Eritrea.

        Regards
        AOsman

    • Daniel

      You missing the point. If someone enters the country with $$$ he is requered to convert his currency at the bank. Given he is none domical, the limitation doesn’t apply to him.

    • Daniel

      Why would you need to have it in cash? What not use cheque?

  • tes

    Dear Awatistas,

    While PFDJ is letting innocent people to die because of basic necessities, it has no shame to sell a hotel, once owned by Real Estate Investor, Samson (sorry I don’t know his father’s name), who became a victim of corrupted generals in the hearts of Asmara, to an Eritrean Half Marathon Runner, Zeresenay Tadesse for 190 million Nakfa.

    Zeresenay is unlucky to invest his hard earned money in this confiscated hotel. PFDJ corrupted generals killed Samson. And it is with high probability that they confiscated his prosperity. Noww Zeresenay is paying 190 million for this hotel to PFDJ regime.

    Wwhat Zeresenay Tadesse should keep in his mind is that the hotel will one day return to the families of the owners. He should be aware from day one. If he is wise, he should resign as early as possible from this investment if not justice will reclaim back to original owners.

    Dear Eritreans, lets remind Zeressenay Tadesse for his black investment. His money has been invested ti a hotel owned by a victim of PFDJ. For more information read: http://www.eastafro.com/2016/02/21/athlete-zersenay-tadese-bought-median-hotel-for-190-million-nakfa/

    tes

    • PTS

      hello tes,
      yeah, I just read the news. If the hotel shows a sign of profit, the chew-egru hgdef will force Zersenay to sell off shares to the regime. I feel bad for him. this is a regime that knows no rule, no law and no boundary. a sane-minded business person should know this. not knowing this will have a hefty price to pay.
      anyway, i wish Zeresenay all the best for his good intentions.

    • Aman

      Wait a minute here !
      While I do agree the PFDJ is doing wrong by letting innocent
      people die because of lack of basic necessities which is true;
      I also do feel that you are also wrong in defending the two men.
      How did they ( the two men ) get the priviledge to conduct free
      and legal trade while we all are put in the open jail system ?
      I feel that Samson and Zeresenay were priviledged to accumulate
      capital and investment under the existing regime and its economic
      system. They must had been ones unfairly priviledged while the
      country was at war and everyone was mobilized. May be the PFDJ
      was duped/coerced into helping his own opponents and / or enemies ?
      This is a really confusing issue. Right ?

    • dawit

      Selam tes

      The source you provided has not reported who the previous owner of the hotel was. “Real Estate Investor, Samson (sorry I don’t know his father’s name),”! Where did you read about Real Estate investor Samson (sorry you don’t know his father’s name), When was “Samson (sorry you don’t know his father’s name)”, killed by the corrupt generals? Where did you get the extra spicy staff of your fabricated story of about Mr. “Sorry I don’t know his father name” came from?

    • Gebru

      Selamat
      Tes the hotel was owned by Yemane know as wedi Brey. He is not in good health this days his wife is an Ethiopian who lives in Addis. Fikre withdrew from the business before the hotel started business, in short the hotel was privately owned.

      • tes

        Dear Gebru,

        I have good information about this hotel and who owns when. Initially the hotel was owned by Yemane as you have put it well. The construction work was started in 1994 or 1995 by contractor Engineer Ghirmai. Most of the structures and concrete works were almost erected prior to 1998. Then when the war with Ethiopia broke out the contractor by himself and those who were working in the construction joined the army. Because of this construction stopped and continued without any activity till 2004. It is in this year that I came to know about this hotel as I was working under the same contractor but in other project. However my friend (an Engineer) was assigned on this site as project engineer.

        As construction materials price went high Yemane was not able to finance his project. It is at this time that Samson invested and took a good share. By the year of 2005, Samson’s share rose to 70% or plus and the owner almost lost his ownership. Samson as young and an energetic investor had enough money to finish the project. By the year of 2007 or around the hotel was finalized and started to give services.

        Yemane, as you have said it clearly was a very rich man during the Ethiopian occupation. After independence he planned this hotel and almost sold everything he had to build this grand project. And he waited almost a decade plus but ended by owning a small proportion of his original idea. I was aware also about his Ethiopian wife and somehow there was a pressure on him. I may not be confident to say but to chose a partner who had close ties with generals was in search of a good ally.

        Unfortunately Samson and his corrupted generals friends had an interest conflict which later ended with tragedy. There is good report on this shooting tragedy. saay7 can help us of awate.com has a report about this.

        Dear Gebru, I am bringing a background information about the hotel that I know very closely.

        All in all, Zeressenay Tadesse has invested in a hotel that has paid blood of innocent people who were forced to be engaged in corrupted business by PFDJ officials. Eritreans therefore should ask Zeressenay how he got the hotel by all means. And it will be a good move if relatives of Samson open a file as ownership and sue him in a court.

        We can not be blind when such hotels who were once owned by individual business people be confiscated and then later be sold to private owners.

        tes

  • Kokhob Selam

    Dear Aman,
    so now you are apologizing for not uploading the song you meant. that is okay, don’t worry I am the first to forgive you. Lol..PFDJ is killing people and didn’t even think of apologizing.

  • Kokhob Selam

    Dear Aman,
    May be what you are saying is correct but do you think the man who rejects the illegal system will have time and give priority to this debate? No, there will be new reality when the entire illegal system goes forever. don’t you think so?

  • Aman

    Poor you
    you still don,t know who AMAN is ?
    AMAN is a TPLF !
    And he is the only one who openly identifies himself unlike you
    and others.

  • T..T.

    Hi all,

    The weirdest facts about the regime is that since the first day Isayas imposed himself on Eritreans, he declared to be number one in the world and placed the country on cliff top of all African countries and the world. When he realized his mistake, he let go the country to crawl down the cliff. And each time, the more the country crawls down the worse it couldn’t get back to safety.

    Lately, in the middle of rolling down the cliff he decides to control the smallest of the smallest in the lives of Eritreans through his currency policy. Even the tenants are compelled to only pay to his housing department, which, in turn, it credits the landlords’ bank accounts with net rent after tax of over 40 percent. The weirdest thing here again is the bank accounts, which the housing department credits to, are opened in the original owners of the properties, most of whom are dead or living abroad. Since no one can daily run a deceased person’s bank account or the accounts of those living abroad, the deposited money is considered to be in a spider’s web.

    According to H. de Balzac, the Isayas’s system is like a spider’s web through which the big flies (the mighty criminals) pass and little flies (the poor and weak) get caught. So, the poor are condemned to slow death. Regarding the diehards, Isayas considers them all as dead by choice.

  • Mahmud Saleh

    Selam All

    Thank you all for your concerns. I must say the first sentence of my last comment was not clear enough, it was left somewhat on a suspended state. I did not complete it because I was rushing. I wrote, “I was cleaning my desk to leave this warm forum for ever.” My intention was to say, “but I know I can’t stay away from this warm forum.” That part was missing because the family was ready waiting for me for an outing. My promise that I will keep it short, and less frequent, is in place. Again thanks to all those who replied plus PTS and tes. Kokhebay, I did not say I will end my participation, but I won’t do long Hateta’s. So my promise is not doing long Hateta. How long is long? You see that’s where the trick is. Ghedli story:

    Once, there was a cartoon by artist Musie. It captures a crowd holding up a slogan saying “Ethiopia First/ኢትዮጵያ ትቅደም!!” A poor passerby looks back at the crowd in a puzzled facial expressions. It obvious he did not want to shout “Ethiopia First” but feared for his life in case he was suspected of his protest. So, he resigns to the fact that shouting a slogan would not change his conviction but would save his life. Hence, he shot back ኢትዮጵያ ትቅደም፡ ዓሻ ድየ በራኺ ( I’m not stupid, Ethiopia First). So Kokhebay, I’m an apolitical person in a political mind. I will not say, I won’t come back or I will end it here. But I say, “I promise I will not bore you with my long Hatetas.” How long? Still I have a wiggling room. What’s long for my good friend Amanuel may not be long for me.Good Sunday. A couple of things:

    Dear SAAY, I resigned from my premiership, not from this warm house. My membership is active. And I love you all, even those who would love to see me disappear. Thanks Dis Donc for that beaytiful song, I translated it using google translate [TM], I also thank tes for feeling happy that I’ve left except that I’m here to stay. I love you all; but this is true. It’s not the clichéd “I love you” of Mr. Trump. You brought google translate/Amharic, and I was playing with it. Here is one of my trials:
    English: abi loves ghedli. abi is coming to massawa. Abi loves to play with poems. Amanuel Hidrat is in intellectual hibernation. I like the debate which is going on between Hayat and Daniel
    Google Amharic translation:አቢ ghedli ይወዳል. አቢ ምጽዋ እየመጣ ነው. አቢ ግጥሞች ጋር መጫወት ይወዳል. አማኑኤል Hidrat የአእምሮ ወራትና ውስጥ ነው. እኔ Hayat እና ዳንኤል መካከል እየተካሄደ ያለውን ክርክር እንደ
    Observation:. Not bad at all…what do you say abi?
    Daniel and Hayat: Please continue your debate. Very informative, mature, and civil. My two cents: The economy is dependent on public expenditure. Private economic activities are negligent, as it stands. Daniel is correct in saying that it is too early to pass a judgment. Hayat’s debate, I suspect, is based on a normal state of economic activities where market self-corrective measures could be forecasted. Here we have an economy that almost dependent on public expenditure, you hit that and there is no economic activities to speak of. Funds for the public expenditure come from development funds (like the EU one, the mining sector, PFDJ economic activities including its factories, Red Sea, transportation…), taxes from private economic activities would be negligible. Hayat’s point regarding the remittance is important. I would like how Daniel takes it.

    • Ted

      Hi the greatest, i thought it would be a disaster if you left us with your unfinished projects. You have to admit you have not made a dent in their recovery. They are getting worse by the day as their pals from the south are busy minding their own business. i am glad you are sticking around. the trill is NOT gone.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgXSomPE_FY

    • saay7

      Welcome back Mahmuday:

      Well, good! I think your premiership was a vote of 1 (by Hayat) and I think she had a recall:) And I will come back to your analysis, particularly on the strawmen arguments you built, on a weekday. But now, a gift from Abi to Kokhob, courtesy of Google Translate Plus*:

      “These gluttons divest all and any,
      repeating (Psalms of)David and country;
      One isn’t enough: all they must consume;
      Reading David until its color is exhumed;
      Of what value are they if they can’t listen?
      sequester yourself: innocent you have always been.” – Abi

      saay

      *Google Translate Plus is a premium service availble via SAAY for $19.95/month.

      • tes

        Selamat saay7,

        If you want to have a fierce battle, well, I will wait for your “kerkibelen ye”. But before you try I am sending my signal of warning. Better to stay on the safe place. As usual, I am fully equipped.

        tes

    • Kokhob Selam

      Dear Mahmuday,
      እወ ባ ድኣ ንብስኻ ኣውጻእካያ ዓርከይ መዓረይ ! so we are back with you hateta. How long? I told you there is no Awatista which is real and went forever in fact all those old awateistas will be back with their Hateta’s. how long? it depends on the Tayta (ጣይታ) they provide but our wide Seteta – (ሰተታ)is ready. we don’t eat much (Ge’At) – (ገዓት) as Meshela is costing us high.

      I don’t know how Saay7’s software will translate that Ge’At and Meshela.

      • saay7

        Selamat Kokhob and all Cultural Experts:

        When His Excellency Isaias Afwerki was doing his thing in the interview–the part where he pretends he and only he cares for the Eritrean people and he has to protect them from thieves, speculators, merchants, get-rich-schemers—-he was questioning the rationale for the price of everything: home rentals, bus fares, mills. So, to show that he is a Man of The People, he said something like “ማሸላ ገዚእካ ተጥሕኖ ን ገዓት…” and some mean Asmarinos produced videos to mock him to say that it is impossible to make ገዓት from ማሸላ and the man is disconnected but trying too hard….

        So, can it be done? Mahmuday? Is “btsay Isaias” correct? 🙂

        saay

        • Saleh Johar

          Saay,
          Don’t fall for the ignorance of asmarinos. Of course, mash ella is the main grain for making gaat. The entire Eritrea and Sudan eat vast mashela, rarely gaat bultuq particularly in the environs of Keren. Only the well to do eat fast feeno. The food that sustained Fedlu was gaat mashela that the villagers offered.

          Isaias 1 asmarinos 0 on this one 🙂

          • sara

            Messers awate, hamdelelah Aleselama.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Saleh,
            the question is why our young Asmarinos don’t know that Mashela is the main grain for making Ge’At? Poor Asmarinos are not connected with their culture. Ha,ha, Kokhob always find the way to blame PFDJ. kokhob 1 SGL 0 on this one.

            Asmarinos can’t afford to eat Ge’At and are always on line to get bread. Lol.

            Awatistas please up vote my post I want to have more than four.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear tes,amuni, Mahmuday,hayata, dawitom, hey their why don’t you support me so far only Saay7 up voted where are you abi,
            why don’t you allow me to get a chance to have a vote more than SGL. Lol. even SGL should up vote this one. SGL are you laughing?

          • Semere Andom

            Hi KS:
            Once upon a time there was a writer by the name Saleh AA Younis long time ago in awate and he answered that question;
            It is not that Asmarino’s do not know about their culture, they pretend to do so: Can you believe someone who grew up in Asmara cannot know what “mirakh mieans, while he goes to Beit MekhaE every year for Niggdet. So our writer answered it as follows: if you ask an Asmarino, is it raining outside , he/she will answer, i cannot tell the difference, we have a swimming pool in our house, if you ask them do you know how to play biliardo, he will tell you that he learned it before he started speaking because they had a table in their house, if you challenge him to let us play, he would look at his watch and say, “qotsero”, not”qotsera” aleni, and then leave;-)

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Semere Andom,

            Lol, “once upon a time” is the best phrase – it seems one hundred years ago.

            But again why they pretend to do so? Welahi it is good I am from Mendfera..Lol.

          • Semere Andom

            Hi KS:
            Oh Mendeferino are not different, no one wrote about them yet cus, Dr. Geodeon Abay is busy talking about PFDJ instead of writing about Adi Bari vs Adi Ugri, Tibo vs St. Georgo;-)

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Semere,
            Ha ha ha, That Dr. Goedeon ! let him stay busy there talking nonsense. Mendeferista look more fara than Asmarino but are more practical people..Lol. those who took education in Serjenhgo ( how do you spell that) ? Lol “Asha serewetay kem hagerue”

          • saay7

            Hi Semere:

            There was a surreal video of Dr. Ghidewon and Sofia on Eri-TV describing the Eritrean flag. Throughout the whole interview, Sofia was like Vanna White: completely silent and just holding the flag, while Dr. Ghidewon espoused theories on the dimension of the flag, the colors, the triangles. Anyway, at some point, the host asks if he (Dr. Ghidewon) remembers the song Sendeq Elamana and he had never heard of it. I have heard of it, but I don’t know where: here is a sample from the lyrics:

            ዕላማና ዕላማና!
            ኣደ ኹሎም ጀጋኑና!
            ኣንበልብሊ ኣብ ኩሉ ኣኽራናትኪ…
            ኣንበልብሊ ኣብ….

            Maybe it is a Jebha theme?

            saay

          • saay7

            Hi Semere:

            Your memory is super-spooky! I always say I am “wedi-Asmera” but not “Asmarino”. Asmarinos are a funny species and they are very amusing…. here’s what I wrote a variation of that for Asmarino in October 2000:

            https://web.archive.org/web/20001202164700/http://news.asmarino.com/

            saay

          • Atsn’haley

            Saay,

            Man, I am Loling so hard….everything you said about Asmarinos here sounds so familiar….but trust me, i have changed quite a bit…

            FS.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Ahlen Saay,

            After reading this short dialogic conversation you made in this comment section, I really expect from you to author a novel book in the same format. Would you?

            regards,
            Amanuel Hidrat

          • saay7

            Hey Emma:

            Actually, I just posted it to share my view of Asmarinos. The dialog, the characters, are so underdeveloped they make me wince reading it now. In other words, I need to take a refersher course (or two, or ten) in creative writing before I would dare write a novel:) But thanks for the compliment.

            saay

          • Semere Andom

            Saay
            But it looks like you have taken (maybe had taken, maybe you took) who knows which one is the right tense;-)
            I am sure did,who else would know about parallel construction, alliterations cadence etc, “nmen ketedenagri deliki yaAki;-)

          • saay7

            Ha Semere:

            Kla, kheliyena bejakha hiji akla nh’ba alena:) Well, yeah, sure I took half a dozen of them, but not enough to write a book. Just to write lengthy articles:)

            saay

          • Kokhob Selam

            ኣንታ መምህር :-

            እዚ ተውህቦ ድዩ ወይስ ብትምህርቲ ዝጥረ ይገርመኒ ኳ እዩ :: I couldn’t control when I reach “Nyeman do kenbedbid weys nSegam?”

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            ብጻይ ኸኾባይ,

            ምርጫኻ ደአሉምበር በቲ ልሙድ ፓለቲካዊ ዋዜማናስ : እቲ ጸገማዊ መንገዲ እዪ ናብ ጉዕዞ ሕብረተሰብአዊ ምዕባለ ዝወስደና በሃሊየ:: ስለዚ አቲ ንዕኡ ንምንብድባድ ዘድሊኸአ ናይ ጸጋም መሽረፈት እዪ:: አብየት ወደቦይ የኑስ ጥራይ ከይሃድነኒ::

            ብጻይካ
            አማኑኤል ሕድራት

          • saay7

            ክቡር ኣማኑኤል:

            ወሪዱኒ ጓል ቀሺ: I don’t even know if it is called መሸርፈት or መሽረፈት or መስከረም.ኔት:)

            ብሃይማኖታዊ መለክዒ: ጸጋማዊ ክንፊ ኩልግዜ ናብ ገሃነም እሳት እዩ ዘድህብ:: ብዓለማዊ ውን ከምኡ: ምሒር ጸጋም ናብ ስታሊናዊ ዴስነት፥ ጥሩፍ የማን ናብ ፋሺስታዊ ስርዓት ዘድህብ ካብ ኮነ፥ መኖም ይኸፍእ? መኖም (ማኦ: ስታሊን: ፖል ፖት: ወዘተ ደሚርካ) መላይን ሰብ ኣህሊቑ ? ን የማን ኣንበድብድ ዚሓወይ:)

            saay

          • Kokhob Selam

            ክቡር ሳይ፯,
            እቲ መሽረፈት ሲ ብላኻ ዝስራሕ ነቲ ሓዊ ከምዝናኸስ ዝገብር :- ብኽኢላታት ኣንስቲ ጥበብ ብዝመለኦ ብኪቢ ዝቅረጽ :-ፍሉይ መሳርሒ እዩ :: ውላ ኳ ብዓለም ለኽ ደረጃ ንጽፈቱ (quality assurance) ዝወሃቦ ምስክር ወረቀት እንተዘየሎ ፍቱንን ምሩጹን መሳርሒ ምዃኑ ዝተረጋገጸ እዩ :: ንሓዊ ካብ ዕንጨት ናብ ዕንጨት ወይ ‘ውን ካብ ፈሓም ናብ ፈሓም ብምውንጫፍ ቁልጡፍ ናይ ምንዳድ ስራሕ በቲ መሽረፈት ብተደላይ መጠን ንንፋስ ብምርግብጋብ እዩ ድማ ዕውት ውጽኢት ዝህብ ::

            መሽረፈት ምስ ‘ዚ ኩሉ ዓቅሚ ምንዳዱ ግዳ ሓንቲ ቁልዒ ኳ እንተኣቀሚጥካሉ በግ በግ ኢሉ እዩ ዝነድድ :: ዓሻ ሰበይቲ ኸኣ በዚ እያ ትምዘን :: “እስከ ሓዊ በታ መሽረፈት ኣቀብልኒ ” ኢልካያ እሞ ከተምጽኣልካ ፈቲና – ኦርማይ ” ኣብ ሓዳር ፈሺላ ትበሃል ” :: ” በሰሮ ” እያ ውን ብሰንኪ ‘ዚ እያ መስከረም ኔት ኣብ ሓደጋ ወዲቓ ዘላ ::

          • Berhe Y

            Selam KS, SJG, SA, Saay and all,

            I don’t really claim to be “Asmarino”, even though I was born and raised there but I luck a lot of “Asmarino – know how, as I think I am fara asmarino” but I don’t remember eating Ge’At meshela. The only reason I say I don’t know is that, going enda TeHanay and going for EKli shopping was one my main task. Weather going to buy Taf, Meshela, dagusha or Sernay, Ater, or buying all the qemema qemem that make shuro..or berbere and going enda TeHanay, be it medeber or Edaga eKli or going enda TeHanay or making all those long line up, when there was shortage of power…and off course carrying the Ekli with my kuchinete…

            I don’t know my mother may be not shared that information with me, but I never thought that we used Ga’At Meshela ……

            So back to what Isayas said…since he is “asmarino” and he was talking to “Asmarino”, stating that “GeAt Meshala’ I don’t think he knew what he was talking about from “Asmarino sense”. It’s like me saying…GeAT meshela, when I have never in my life (as far as I know) have seen / or tested it in the first place..of course he may have …. but I don’t think what he said was correct…

            SGJ, off course we are in the business of ridiculing the president, including the Asmarinos even though he may be correct but what he said is not out of ‘pure knowldge’ but being the pretender that he is…

            so in this case, Asmarino 1 and Isayas 0 (always Zero no matter what)…:)

            Berhe

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Berhe,
            if someone is in wrong place and wrong time whatever he says is wrong. Lol.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            ሰላም በርሄ,

            ንገዕት ኣብ ከበሳ ስገም ወይ ስርናይ እዮም ዝጥቀሙ:: ስለዚ ወዲ አስመራ ንገዓት ማሽላ ዘይምፍላጥካ ዘገርም አይኮነን: ብፍላይ ንመታሕት ኤርትራ ዘይተንቃሳቀስካ እንተድአ ኮይንካ::

            ሐውኻ
            አማኑኤል ሕድራት

          • Atsn’haley

            Hi Amanuel,

            Wouldn’t you say that Asmarino should take some responsibility for not making the effort to teach themselves how things are done in other parts of the country, traveling to those areas being a major component of it…?

            FS.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear FS,

            To some extent I will agree with you. But even myself I didn ‘t know until l join ghedli and become my daily meal. So your critic also include myself.

            Regards

          • Saleh Johar

            Berhe and dawit,

            Berhe, no doubt Isaias is a loser whether he as a wedini asmarino or as a tyrant. The point I tried to make is this: how could we not know the major staple food in Eritrea?

            Unfortunately, our friend dawit thinks my heart has softened on Isaias! Really? My heart doesn’t soften for cruel, unjust and bloody thugs like him. He might be a gang leader, but he has never been a statesman, and will never be.

            As for Eritrea, please dawit, understand that I hate Isaias and his minions because of my love for Eritreans and Eritrea. I hate him for what he is doing to my people and country, nothing else. What have I done to you, dawit, to insult me as having a soft heart for a brute?

          • Berhe Y

            Selam Saleh,

            If you ask me, I will say “blame it on my mother”, because it’s the first time I heard it today and I have never tested it.

            But when it comes to food, I do like to try almost anything and hopefully I will do so one day. So when I say this, I think I speak for most of Asmarino’s, like AH said never been to the Eritrean lowlands, which perfectly describes me:(

            Berhe

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Berhe,
            No at all. I will not blame you for everything. You are too decent to be blamed.
            I remember in the nineties I was debating an annoying man in Dehai and he pretended to know Eritrea more than anyone else. I challenged him to prove he was anywhere past enda kerbit in Asmara 🙂 The issue reminded me of him and I was annoyed the PFDJ’s zura nhagerka didn’t produce anything 🙂

        • Kokhob Selam

          Dear Saay7,
          yes it can. but it was the way he brought it as you have mentioned Lol. normally in lowlands they use it. during our struggle some time we use to make Wedi Aker. that is also one type of Meshela.

          Now to use his style… (ዋሎ )

          መሸላ ክትብል ከለኻ እንታይ ዓይነት መሸላ ! ምናልባት ኮደን መሸላ:- ዓማል መሸላ :-ዳጉያ ወዘት ማለትካ ክኸውን ይኽእል እዩ :: ብዙሕ ክንዛረብ ንኽእል ኢና – ግን ቁንጣሮ መሸላ ዘይብልካን ጠሓኒት መኪና ከየዳለኻን ብዙሕ ክትዛረብ ትርጉም የብሉን :: መዓስ ዝተዘርአ መሸላ ? መን ዘሪእዎ ? ኣብዑር ድዩ ተጠቂሙ ትራክተር ? ንምዃኑ እቲ ዝሓረሶ ካብ ኣየናይ ዙርያ ክፍሊ ታዕሊም እዩ ወጺኡ? ዝብሉ ማእለያ ዘይብሎም ሕቶታት እዮም ዝቀርቡ::

          ኣብ ዝሓለፈ ፳ ዓመታት ናይ ወጻኢ ማእለያ ዘይብሉ ቀጻሊ ተጻእቦታትን ሸርሕታትን ኣብ ሕርሻ መሸላ ዘሕደሮ ጽልዋ ብዝሑ እዩ ::

        • Mahmud Saleh

          Hala Ya MuAlem
          TN and madote.com ከይረኣይዋ ደምስሳ። ብጻይ ኢሳያስ ስዒሩ:)

          • saay7

            Haha Mahmuday:

            Nah, they are too busy spinning the following as good news:

            1. The President of the Sanctions Committee, Venezuela’s Ramirez, said that:
            (a) the Monitoring Group has not found proof of the Government supporting Al-Shabab;
            (b) The Monitoring Groups has found proof of the Government of Eritrea supporting “others groups inside Ethiopia, in contravention of paragraph 16 of Resolution 1907.”
            (c) The Government of Eritrea had shown little willingness to cooperate with the Monitoring Group (also called for by Resolution 1907);
            (d) There is lack of progress in solving the border dispute between Eritrea and Djibouti (also called for by Resolution 1907);
            (e) IF there is evidence that Eritrea is in Yemen, that too would be a violation of Resolution 1907;
            (f) he had received an invitation to visit Eritrea from Isaias Afwerki.

            A and F are good news for the pro-Isaias group so B, C, D, E don’t matter:)

            In other news, the tireless efforts of Mzungu Herman Cohen appear to have been wasted: the United States said “little has changed”, emphasizing that “obstructing the Monitoring Group’s work was at odds with Eritrea’s calls for the lifting of sanctions imposed on it.”

            Onward and forward.

            saay

            PS: Also please check Ahmed Raji’s Facebook page: he shares terrible news about the culture of impunity of “bitsay Isaias.”

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Ahlen SAAY
            I like the video, it reminds me of enda Fluy Gudaay, it was a sort of “lodging” for traveling tegadelti. You spend the night rocking over a stretch of rough roads and then in the morning you end up staying in one of those “rest places” where rough attendants would grill you on how many you are, and where you came from…and then would distribute meager rations (mesarf) of the day: X-kilo flour, x-amount of sugar, oil…you are rushing to prepare your food before the MIGs appear low in the horizon, and also to catch a nap.
            UN/SEMG? Forget it. I’m firm ab metkeley.
            1. It’s a toothless tool of USA, it has been and it will continue to be. SEMG lies are dissipating
            2. In addition to it, the sanction will never solve Eritrea’s internal problems, never. It has never solved any political problem. Sanctions can help when there is a space of public disobedience, and rudimentary institutions of opposition, UNIONS, Press, opposition parties…etc. They can use that public space to pressure the government. In countries such as Eritrea, sanctions never work to change regimes or their behaviors. This is in addition to the fact that the sanctions have nothing to do with what Eritreans consider priority targets such human rights and political suffocations, etc.
            3. It is advisable if the opposition stays away from getting in the stoking of designs that have nothing to do with the dawning of a democratic system in Eritrea. Gadi hates the mention of EO in third voice. Well, all I’m saying is yeleKulun. The opposition better focus on domestic issues. IA can solve his problems with the USA overnight. Then what? That’s why I say, stay away from issues of international implications which have no immediate domestic effects, and which are viewed by the wider public as unjust.
            4. Look how the accusations have become a moving post. From Alshabab to Djibouti, to supporting neighboring countries opposition groups (that’s Ethiopia) as if Ethiopia does not support a neighbor’s opposition groups…The toothless UN has no basis what so ever to continue the sanction. SEMG was chastised for acting out of its mandates and for using unverifiable materials and materials unrelated to the cause of the sanctions. Basically, the UNSC told SEMG that it was toothless and that it needed professionals to help it stay within its mandate. How can an Eritrean opposition stand with a group that has been criticized by the UNSC members?

          • saay7

            Hala Mahmuday:

            From your four points, I will focus on # 4, although # 3 is also very tempting. I will focus on # 4 because I think you are showcasing something that was very common in the EPLF: a form of Chegwar-Dangaism: that is when literate, educated people embrace the culture of the illiterate and uneducated for reasons of comformism. I also see a case of transference: where outrage is directed at the UN for doing its job (sanctioning an unruly government) and not at the entity that got Eritrea sanctioned: the leadership of Isaias Afwerki.

            We do not have to guess what Resolution 1907 (2009)says because it is a mouse and a clique away. We also do not have to guess what happened when Resolution 1907 was ignored by Isaias Afwerki: the sanctions were stiffened and Resolution 2023 (2011) was passed.

            So, no, sir, talking about Djibouti is not a “moving post”: the sanctions call on Eritrea to solve its problem with Djibouti and it hasn’t stopped it: the Qatar-mediated “talks” are a ruse. It is not “moving the post” when the UN demands that Eritrea stop supporting Ethiopia’s armed groups: it was in Resolution 2023. (And no, “Ethiopia supports Eritrean opposition groups,” is not a good argument (“But mom, he started it!”) because there is no UN resolution on Ethiopia to stop from arming Eritrean opposition groups.) When the UN demanded that Eritrea should allow SEMG to enter Eritrea, it wasn’t a recommendation, it was part of the resolution. And now, the president of the sanctions committee has clarified what the SEMG had placed as tentatively in its October 2015 report. Recall, it had said that if Eritrean armed forces are embedded in the Yemen conflict, it might be a violation of Resolutions 1907 and 2023; now the Sanctions president is saying that if it is true, it would be a violation.

            You may call the UNSC, SEMG and UN “toothless” as much as you want but they look pretty toothy to me. And for an Eritrean opposition to stand with the Monitoring Group is very natural because it is the Eritrean opposition that helps the Monitoring Group give context and meaning when reporting on a country they have never been allowed to visit. What is very unusual is for an Eritrean opposition to not place where the blame belongs on sanctioning Eritrea: it is not the toothless Monitoring Group, or UN or UNSC. It is….well, let me quote your former comrade Andeberhan Woldegiorgis because he put it very succinctly:

            “Clueless about the adverse geo-political consequences of its total isolation, the dire implications of sanctions for the country, and the enormous difficulty in getting sanctions removed once imposed, the regime virtually dared the UN Security Council by insisting on its blanket denial and refusal to heed its repeated resolutions and warnings. The government’s pathetic behavior allowed Ethiopia to scheme not only to deflect attention from its continued defiance of the EEBC’s mandatory ruling but also to further isolate Eritrea. Addis Ababa capitalised on Eritrea’s self-suspension of membership in IGAD and the AU to mobilise unanimous support for a resolution calling for UN sanctions against Eritrea by the two regional bodies.”

            You see, Mahmuday, if the sanctions are lifted in 2017, it doesn’t mean that “Eritrea is vindicated” and the UN was wrong all along. It means that the Government of Isaias Afwerki squandered 8 years of young Eritrea’s economic life when it foolishly dared the UN to sanction it, and, frighteningly, it has learned not one single lesson from it because it assigns 0% of the blame for getting Eritrea sanctioned. And the strangest case would be if there was an opposition that said, yep, I agree with the government.

            saay
            saay

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Ya Hala abusalah
            I’m going to refer you to my harbegnawi Hateta which deals how toothless and harmful our government was.Regarding, PFDJ, basically, I have repeated again and again similar lines to those of Ambassador Andebrhan.Now, we are past PFDJ stupidity. You can’t sanction nations simply because they are unruly. You have to have sanctionable actions. We knew it early that SEMG was a toothless political instrument for subduing countries which appear to be acting “unruly” vis-a-vis USA interests. But more to come later this evening. Supporting unjust actions of bullying nations was one of the libility to the “smooth-danga” Eritrean intellectuals and the opposition at large.This is in addition to their almost identical stances to those of Ethiopia. But more to come.

          • saay7

            Hala Mahmuday:

            We are not “past PFDJ stupidity” because the same people who engineered the gross negligence and abdication of responsibility by daring the UN to sanction Eritrea, are still in charge of Eritrea–now with money and richer allies. (Unless, for that, too, we will find a creative way to blame the opposition.) Anyway, before your Evening Edition of your Hateta, I kindly request you re-read Resolutions 1907 and 2023 to remind yourself what got Eritrea sanctioned so you don’t blame the opposition for it:)

            saay

          • Ted

            Hi the greatest and saay. In some ways Abi and our opposition (pro-sanction) are the same. Abi made a premature decision to name his son Alula to be in unabating fight with Eritreans to make his son’s name relevant in Eritrea. The pro sanction, the hammer it when it is hot group, never foreseeing this day coming , they clapped with every absurd and outrageous accusation UN can can come up with. What now!, in the twist of events, It seems that UN itself appear under sanction urging Eritrea to do this and that to done with this nonsense after milking it to the bone for almost a decade for no avail. Eritrea really needs opposition and no better time than now to cut their loses and do the right thing. The other argument by Amb. Andebrhan, supported by saay, “stupidity got in this conundrum” is another strange argument, suffice to say only in UN court stupid attitude( not action) gets you in jail; with no impartial judge to see both sides , the prosecutors hand down the verdict against the naive, stupid, uneducated, powerless without impunity. Eritrean asked to clap!

          • saay7

            Selamat Ted:

            Your argument is that the UN, for invalid reasons, sanctioned Eritrea; the Eritrean opposition supported the UN decision and all of it was “to no avail” because now it is the UN itself that is under sanction (whatever that means.) Let’s see:

            1. In 2009, after 3 years of pleading with the Eritrean government to modify its behavior, the UN sanctioned Eritrea for its destructive role in Somalia, for its refusal to acknowledge its dispute with Djibouti with whom it had a skirmish, and called on it to engage with the Monitoring Group. The Gov of Eritrea denied its role in Somalia, denied it had a dispute with Djibouti, and refused to engage with the Monitoring Group.

            2. In June 2010, the Government of Eritrea signed a mediation agreement with Djibouti, over a dispute it claimed it didn’t have, and kept this a secret from the Eritrean people. It could have avoided sanctions if it had done this exactly a year earlier, but Tortoise Head works very slowly.

            3. In 2011, the UN complimented the Gov of Eritrea for acknowledging and dealing with its dispute in Djibouti; it found that its role was still destructive in Somalia; that it was funding and training and arming an array of armed Ethiopian opposition groups, that it is still refusing to engage with SEMG, and it issued a new resolution including tightening and requiring that companies make due diligence that their investments in the country won’t find themselves diverted to terrorist organizations.

            4. This woke up the Isaias regime from its slumber. Now it stopped whatever it was doing in Somalia (since 2006, it had a messiah complex about saving the Somalis): even its state media kept quiet. It still refused to engage with SEMG, it was still funding and arming and training Ethiopian armed groups (which is against the resolution.)

            5. In 2014, the Monitoring Group said that there is no evidence that Eritrea is arming Al-Shabab (which you, Mahmud Saleh, and all PFDJista equate with there WAS NEVER ANY evidence that Eritrea was arming Al-Shabab.) It maintained in 2014, and as recently as October 2015, that it is still arming Ethopian oppo, still refusing to engage with the SEMG and, by the way, if it has a military presence in Yemen, it is a violation of Resolution 1907.

            6. In 2016, Eritrean president invites the president of the Sanctions Committee to visit Eritrea. The president of the Sanctions Committee is very sympathetic (Venezuela is the only country that abstained in the vote to extend the mandate of SEMG in 2015.)

            Now, let’s see if your claim is true:

            Was Eritrea sanctioned because of “stupidity”? No, it was sanctioned because its government believed that it could do whatever it wanted to do in Somalia and Djibouti to force the UN to compel Ethiopia to abide by EEBC. It miscalculated very badly, which is something it does habitually.

            Was this all “to no avail”? Well, the Gov of Eritrea has shut the hell up about Somalia (behavior modified), has acknowledged its problem with Djibouti (behavior modified), has been engaging the world and begging to get off sanctions (behavior modified) and is now inviting the Sanctions Committed Chair (behavior modified.)

            Was the opposition supportive of the actions of the UN? Of course. In case you forgot, the job of the opposition is to oppose the policies and practices of the ruling party whenever it believes that such government is endangering the State. If you don’t think the PFDJ essentially endangered the viability of the State from 2001-present, well…I forgot, it is everybody’s fault but the PFDJ, right?

            saay

          • Ted

            Hi Saay, thank you for the response and i strongly believe Eritrea needs opposition more than anything. What i consider viable opposition are being swallowed in this quicksand of Sanction justification. Medrek as good at it and with its good start, need to work with UN to lift the sanction not the otherway around.
            I think we see the UN(the one who made the decisions)positions in different lenses. Correct me if i wrong, you are convinced those, who have a say in UN body, as neutral, and good willing entities as enforcers of the charter of UN as written. You accepted, most if not all, accusation they made against Eritrea in their technicality( your lists) apart from their implication on the grand policy of the region . I see it differently that US and Ethiopia invaded Somalia not because Somalia were a threat to Ethiopia or US but the desire to establish friendly Gov to their end. Fast forward and add the bitter conflict between Eritrea and Ethiopia, it became easy for the US to know where the line should be drawn. Then it happened, the sanction, the diplomacy gap US, intentionally or arrogantly, left unfilled exploited by Ethiopia and its friends like djibouti. If you are not convinced TPLF’s mean intentions for Eritrea and the struggle to thawt them, “no avail” won’t make sense to you. Personally US didn’t intend to antagonise us or believe we “support terrorists” but faced with dilemma where it had to make a choice between us and the more useful and utilitarian Ethiopia..To me “no avail” means Eritrea is on the verge of making its stand heard as independent country and as facts on the ground changes so does the decision to shun Eritrea or not . Ignoring Eritrean issue was easy for them, let us see how they manage to juggle their ally Turkey’s interest to the kurd’s YPJ survival question . I hope, for a change, the powerful stand their ground for for the benefit of the region. Is it too much conspiracy theory for you:-)

          • Dis Donc

            Dear Ted,
            Politics is very fluid and one has to be on his toe to not to be drown in it. I am afraid I cannot say the same for IA. Up until an able leadership arises from the ashes of PFDJ, Eritrea will always find herself between a rock and a hard place.

          • Ted

            *drowned

          • Dis Donc

            Nice catch.

          • saay7

            Thanks Ted:

            I will wait for Mahmuday’s Evening Hateta so I can give a consolidated reply. Needless to say, I disagree with your assessment of what the primary role of Eritrea’s head of state is. Hint: it is not to give the world “Eritrean attitude” because, um, nobody cares.

            saay

          • dawit

            Selam SAAY,
            Another Kool-Aid drinking session. Eritrean government under PFDJ applied to UNSC for Sanctions, and they got it with the help of Uganda and Gabon. USA, SEM, Eritrean Opposition group or Ethiopia has nothing to do with it, let us blame Isaias for requesting it and change the government.

          • dawit

            Selamat SAAY,
            Please SAAY, stay away from the SEM/COI UN Kool-Aid staff, not good for your health. Eat GaAt Bultug for your health. It is high in calcium and gluten free cereal. It is going to be the next health nutrition food staff. Ask tes (when he is sober) about its nutritional qualities of Bultug, It could be the next Eritrean export commodity, as Microeconomist I advise Eritreans to invest in Bultug, it is well adopted to short rainy season very drought resistant crop. My Kerenite grandma (Blessed he soul) was an expert in making porridge from bultug), that was the food I enjoyed when I was young visiting her.

          • saay7

            Ha, Dawit:

            Let me help you differentiating between Kool-Aid and orange juice (from Ela Bered):

            1. Commission of Inquiry on Eritrea (CoI-E) is the result of the Eritrean human rights activists banging the doors of Geneva demanding to be heard and now it is the story of hundreds of Eritreans victimized by Emperor Isaias Afwerki and his henchmen. Getting mad at the CoI makes as little sense as getting mad at a court reporter who is transcribing testimonies of witnesses and victims. Instead of telling its side of the story by admitting them to the country, the regime that you support is doing the only thing it knows to do: jamming the transmission by faxing them thousands of pages of false testimonies of people under duress.

            2. The bultug: how much does it cost? Where does it grow? Can it grow anywhere else? Why is it selling for what it is selling? Where is it stored? How? Who decided to call it “bultug”? Only in Eritrea can a guy who runs the Water Department and the Buses ask us (with some indignation) to justify why water costs what it costs and bus fares cost what they cost. He must have ocassional out-of-body experiences where he forgets he runs the show and has been for 25 years.

            saay

            *And by SEM do you mean SEMG?

          • Semere Andom

            Sal:
            The questions in item 2 are missing one thing: when we talk about bultug, we must also ask the crucial question that can the slim, long, Eritrean hand reach it among the lush and greenery of Gash-Barka to be able to harvest it, can ‘hanti fre” be saved and not squandered, can “qilqil zbelet gunbo” be harvested.
            I bet that cousin dawit will respond to this item by saying, the king is omnipresent so he knows everthing, or something as stupid at that

          • saay7

            Hey Cousin iSem:

            Tegadalit Tzigereda’s description of the “long, slim arm” of the Eritrean male is going to be as classic as Adam Smith’s “invisible hand.” I think her point was that for people of such slight build, Eritrean men tend to be sexually aggressive. This should have occasioned a lot of soul-searching and introspection from her male compatriots but people just pulled their soap boxes, dusted off their Ghedli’s Greatest Hits and tuned up their Easily Outraged Outrage Machine to lecture her and, this is important, to mock the testimonies of those she presented as witnesses.

            About the “hanti fre”…. you know in the water preservation movement, there is a “catch every drop” phrase and IA, in one of his interviews, translated it to Tigrinya and pretended it was his idea. And I am sure Cousin Dawit ate it up:)

            saay

          • Abi

            HI Vet
            I almost missed your long, winding , camel like hateta.
            Try to translate this
            Wetader sikefaw , hodun hod sibsew
            Eregna yihonal gimel yemiyagdew.
            Eyaleqaqese washintun sinefa
            Eyetekakeze angetun sidefa
            Mesaleqiya hone yebrihane Tesfa.
            Yemanew kerfafa?!
            Eregna hone enji wenew meche Tefa?

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Hi ArbeNa abi

            Amharic version:

            ወታደር ሲከፋው ሆዱን ሆድ ሲብሰው
            እረኛ ይሆናል ግመል የሚያግደው
            እያለቃቀሰ ዋሺንቱን ሲነፋ
            እየተካከዘ ኣንገቱን ሲደፋ
            መሳለቅያ ሆነ የብርሃኑ ተስፋ
            የማን ነው ከርፋፋ
            እረኛ ሆነ እንጂ ወነው መቸ ጠፋ

            Google translation

            Šikefewi soldier belly belly šibišewi
            Shepherd will prevent needle
            Iyelek’ek’eše blown weshinituni
            Spilling neck iyetekekeze
            Laughingstock of light and hope
            Yemen is ungainly
            But the main shepherd, and when it disappeared
            Review: It sucks big time.

    • tes

      Selamat Mahmud Saleh,

      Well, you didn’t want to admit your defeat. Stay around then to have more kicks. No place for Ghedli magnifiers.

      tes

  • AMAN

    Dear Awates
    HELLO EVERYONE
    After years or decades of struggle defending Eritrean strugggle
    from the joint attacks by pfdj/woyane and its allies of Eritrean
    opposition you have caused me identity crisis and severe PTSD
    AND
    dellusion – detachment from reality and other related issues due
    to your negligent, uninformed and irresponsible acts and actions
    of falling prey to the enemy and enemy propaganda machineries
    which I believe may have affected many sectors and sections of
    the country and may have plagued the entire youth of the Nation
    at this time ( not available data at present ) .

    All this for nothing but standing to defend my country and people
    at a time of coordinated attack by external and internal confused
    political agents and their defunct institutions.
    Now all what I ask is sincere and formal apology of your criminal
    actions against human being and rights and may be redress and
    acknowledgement of patriotic work Or I may go for full fight ( violent
    or non-violent struggle ) against both camps to reclaim my legitimate
    rights back and expose you and your crimes against human being both
    in domestic and world tribunals.
    I find it hard to accept my freedom, Liberty and all political and economic
    even social rights being taken and controlled by illegitimate political groups
    and sub-groups in the name of democracy or Nationalism where there is
    none even the slightest of that or like that yet except only promise through
    heresay.
    I WILL GIVE YOU 72 HRS TO COME UP WITH YOUR REPLY.

    • Hayat Adem

      Aman,
      I want to be your friend here or beyond, and talk to you directly but there isn’t much I know about you. I tell you are unique and likable. Don’t feel lonely at all in this warm room. It would always help if you could direct your comments at issues or events or views of specified individuals. Love, Hayat.

      • Kokhob Selam

        HAYATA – ክብርቲ ሰብ :
        Do you study psychology? just wondering.. if not please do that- Eritrean needs psychologists and you mind is ready to capture it.

        • Hayat Adem

          Hey KS,
          You are so generous. Thanks. Actually, SGJ would counsel way better than me. Some knowledge is transferable. Whoever was fixing phillips machines could likely fix human brains too. I am so glad to re-feel your presence, honorable SGJ.
          Hayat

          • Kokhob Selam

            Hayata,
            really I wish him long life. were you able to listen SBS discussion between him and professor? ፕሮፌሶር ኣዝዩ ተዳልዩ ታሪኻውን ስነፍልጠታውን ተንተና ሒዚ እዩ ክቀርብ ጀሚሩ :: እዋእ ጽልምት ኢሉዎ እዩ ከይዱ! ” ዓረብ ከይዶም ዓረብ ወጺኦም” ይገርመኪ እዩ:: እቲ ሓቂ ግዳ ስነ ኣእምሮ ኣዊ ድልዳለ ተዓዘቢ :
            listen it today if you don’t.

            Abi, do you know Arabs use to support Dergue ?

          • dawit

            KS,
            I listened to it SGJ was at his best, his arguments were air tight in defending Eritrea’s best interest. I think the New SGJ has changed, even he gave PIA credit on his Microeconomics lecture on Mashela and Bultug use for GeAt or Ekelet against an opposition humorist. Shall we say the new SGJ’s heart is softening towards PFDJ.
            Regards,
            dawit

          • Kokhob Selam

            Ha, ha, dawitom,
            so you are using your psychological knowledge Lol.

            But he is the most transparent man really. he didn’t give credit to PIA but he destroy the program that was installed in the mind of some Ethiopians that says Arabs are supporting Eritreans. I remember when Dergue use to say ” የኣረብ ብቹሎች ” and still some politicians try to use it.

          • dawit

            Dear KS,

            I never learned psychology, never took a course on the subject. Every thing I wrote based on my observation. I never thought SGJ would give credit to PIA microeconomics knowledge, but he did. I am familiar with the phrase
            ” የኣረብ ብቹሎች “. But the puppy got big to destroy the Derg. You should also read or watch a video how Menge soften his rhetoric admitting those puppies (EPLF) were snatching his soviet made weapons from his army and using them against his soldiers.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear dawit,
            Yes, but you keep both the devil and the Eritrean fighters in one basket and you are putting Eritrean identity in danger. If most of the people will not be able to see the criminal group and the mass differently Eritrea may go failed state. this where you are wrong always. EPLF is the mass not the leadership. EPLF is also ELF love it or not. this is where you should work hard to understand it clearly. don’t kill our hard struggle please!

  • tes

    Dear AT,

    Discussing on monetary system of PFDJ is what it makes me sick and idle. What ever PFDJ does is to have an absolute control, as you put in your article, totalitarianism. Any brake-down of the current move by PFDJ junta in regard to monetary system so that to see the rationale behind it is simply time wasting.

    What I liked most about the article is the way you conclude it. Here it goes:

    “The best deal for Eritrea would be for the Eritrean tyrant to issue a proclamation to immediately end poverty, stop drought, and eradicate opposition to his injustices, and build a great wall of Eritrea around the country to further isolate it. “.

    This is a noble advice to PFDJ junta. Kudos to your editorial work which has always surpassed my expectation from your piece.

    tes

  • saay7

    Selamat daniel:

    I see the distinction, although you didn’t disown the World Bank data in your reply to Kibreab.

    While I appreciate the typical Eritrean “niH” of trashing the World Bank, here are the facts: there are two major funding sources for Eritrea now: the Africa Development Bank and the European Development Fund.

    The Africa Development Bank relies heavily for its research on the World Bank. It is this research that is used to justify grants and loans to Eritrea.

    The EDF funding was predicated on data largely gathered from World Bank and the IMF and the UNDP. Even the language used to classify Eritrea as “least developed country” is straight from UNDP as are all the vital stats from MDGs.

    Personally, I read these reports because it is the only time I learn quantitative information about Eritrea as the government, while loathe to sharing information with its citizens, readily gives it to its lenders. The most shocking info in the agreement is that according to Eritrea’s Statistical Office, Eritrea’s population is 3.5 million.

    https://ec.europa.eu/europeaid/sites/devco/files/eritrea_national_indicative_programme_2014-2020.pdf

    saay

  • AMAN

    If you all ( both partisans ) think
    you are being smart….
    You better think twice !
    AMAN
    Spokes person for
    The THIRD Movement
    of the people.

  • saay7

    Selamat Daniel:

    About the over-reliance on World Bank and IMF data, I guess it is a common phenomenon in polemical writing not limited to those who oppose the government. Recall that the first thing you did to rebut Kibreab’s argument that Eritrea is getting increasingly more indebted is….World Bank data. Recall how a few years ago, pro-gov publications were publicizing the Economist Intelligence Unit (EIU) forecast of Eritrea having the fastest growing economy in the world.

    Now, how did statista.com “arrive at the magical number of 3rd”? Statista claims: “Next to internal surveys Statista receives data from numerous secondary sources. These publications are searched daily from different authorities. Statista checks more than 18,000 sources, focuses on quantitative facts and makes them
    available quickly and conveniently.”

    http://www.statista.com/download/Statista-Sources.pdf

    I find it humorous how the supporters of the Gov of Eritrea deny fact-finders entry to the country and then use the very absence they created to discredit reports–whether that is with SEMG, CoI, World Bank or IMF. Then use the same sources if they say something they like: SEMG just said there is no proof of Eritrea in Somalia! Actually, it is not humorous at all: it is a feature, not a bug: designed to create a permanent state of secrecy where the State always has information advantage that it can manipulate.

    But to go back to the “magic number” of Statista: it is ratio of debt to GDP. Now, debt is relatively easy to quantify because there is a lender somewhere keeping books. GDP is harder to quantify anywhere in Africa, including Eritrea–but Eritrea’s is worst. For two reasons: (a) there is no census. Just in 2015, I have heard Eritrean population described as 4,000,000 (by Wedi Gerahtu in reply to CoI) and 6.3 million (by various international institutions.) Since GDP/capita is GDP/population, that creates a wild swing. (b) GDP is calculated by converting local currency into USD using official exchange rates. Recall that the official was pegged at 1:15 whereas the black market (the real market) was at 1:60.

    In the absence of budgets, reports, the government uses anecdotes to make the people believe it is a good steward of the Eritrean economy. Dams built, running water supplied, clinics/schools built, etc. Whenever it does that, there never is anything more than that: how much did it cost? How far did this go towards fulfilling a defecit? Nothing.

    And about what President Isaias Afwerki said or didn’t say, well, one can find a quote from the man for any occasion because he has a lot of opinions that he shares freely without fear of contradiction since he owns the media. He also says, every year, that this is the year the Eritrean economy will take off, will shift to a higher gear. He is an expert on everything: when the UN issued a report that Eritreans have stunted growth and are some of the world’s most undernourished, he questioned the formula the UN uses (calorie intake) to determine who is undernourished.

    saay

    • Harestay

      Thanks saay,
      How true you wrote “In the absence of budgets, reports, the government uses anecdotes to make the people believe it is a good steward of the Eritrean economy. Dams built, running water supplied, clinics/schools built, etc.”
      Here is my statistics to measure poverty in Eritrea. During a divorce in Asmara men are sentenced to pay child allowance (KELEB KOL’AE). You know how much it is ? 120 Nakfa/child equivalent to 2.50 usd/month. This says it all. dawit,Gheteb,Hope please take notes. And here was the price of few of a child’s need. Transportation to school with a minibus service 250 nak/month, Shoe(SHIDA) 40 NK, bread 3 nk, etc . Milk ….ohhh unavailable or with a coupon. Stunting,malnourishment , cognitive deficiency of the child. Vicious cycle.

  • PTS

    Dear author,
    On your illustration of the challenges someone at remote location faces:
    You talk about the problem of not being able to read/write, yes that is an issue but the bigger problem would be having a bank account. We are talking about check, not money order. You have to have established bank account. So what will people in remote areas do then? They don’t have much option. They may need to cut expenses so it is under 3000. May be many transactions would be through goods exchange, say you trade a 100 kilo taff for a cattle. Or 30 killo Meshela for a goat. Or you work at someones’s farm whereby you make a deal for some sort of pay off, and so on.The situation will force them to be creative. Of course the chew-egru PFDJ will be there at every step to disrupt normalcy.

  • AWATE

    Dear Awates
    Finally Good breaking news
    for you and me and all of us.
    =====================
    I found out today that my participation of two decades long
    in the research study and experimental work at the prestigious
    St Mary’s psychiatric Hospital in Asmara has paid off and is
    coming very close showing positive results and achievements
    of finding the solution and vaccine for the
    problem or illness that was ailing and plaguing the nation.
    The results which will soon be published on the Medical
    newspaper of the Hospital for the public though there
    are some few Doctors and medical personnel members of
    the medical board who didn’t endorse the results yet ,
    according to the highest official in charge of the R&D
    department of the Hospital, indicates that the product will
    be on the market as early as 2017.
    The study which is jointly funded by the public, government
    and some famous pharmaceutical corporations of the country
    has unlocked the biggest ever mysteries our planet so far
    experienced in the Medical / psychiatric field which required
    the extra-ordinary work of Medical professionals to date.
    I am Proud to be a participant Awate, congratulations to us all !

  • dawit

    Abi and K.H.
    Why are you so sensitive because I used “donkey age”? Now I did not coined that phrase. In fact that phrased was coined by a famous late Ethiopian Medical Professor and political leader, Dr. Assrat. He wrote tribute to Emperor Haile Selassie I, at a time when every one blaming him for the problem that existed in Ethiopia. He wrote that “Haile Selassie brought Ethiopia from the ‘donkey age to the jet age’. Who can deny that. Where did I referred ‘Ethiopia is still ‘donkey age’? Yes once our fathers and grand fathers used donkeys for transportation, and still donkey is very useful transportation animals in both Eritrea and Ethiopia. If you two have visited the two countries lately you would see donkeys used to transport agricultural products from rural to towns and cities. Very common seen is donkeys used to transport drinking water in many places. You will also see many people using mobile phones in cities, towns and rural areas in both Ethiopia and Eritrea just like you observe in America, Europe or Asia. That is what I refer the ‘Electronic age’. My mother who is close to 90 years old uses mobile phone and I communicate with her using the latest technology. I have no desire to look up or down to any community. Yes I still believe our people have the ability and capacity to adopt any technology. Look we don’t know how to make AK-47, but we can use them better than any one or even the people who manufactured them. Therefor, there is nothing that should offend any one be Eritrean or Ethiopian. Yes, we all live in different political spectrum, I support the Eritrean government, if that does not please you, it is your problem.
    Regards,
    dawit

    • Abi

      Gashiye
      Please don’t bring the AK47 thing. It kept us in MONKEY AGE.

      • dawit

        Abi, unfortunately that is where you are still dwelling, the monkey age! Do you have any latest news from Oromia?

        • Abi

          I blame this comment on your age.

  • dawit

    Dear Awate Team.

    You wrote

    “Out of the estimated amount of 62 billion Nakfa worth of currency that was in circulation, only an estimated 75% has been surrendered to the banks”. Where did you get the above statistics, did the government furnished those estimates, or is it something pulled out of the thin air?

    Then you wrote “Vegetables and fruits that start selling at 100 Nakfa a kilo in the early morning end up selling at 25 Nakfa towards the evening”.

    So what is wrong with that picture. The rich buys tomatoes at 100 Nakfa for a kilo of vegetable in the morning to eat lunch and the poor buy same vegetable for 25 Nakfa for dinner. The most important thing is that there is tomatoes to be purchased at any price in the economy.

    As PIA said in his new interview that change of Nakfa currency had broad targets in the economy. Can adult education be included in the targets. Writing checks may give an additional incentives for illiterate citizens to attend their adult education classes and use it in practice writing checks what the learned.

    • Lamek

      Hi dawit, ok I will give you that it’s normal for governments to manipulate monetary policies to stabilize or stimulate their economies. The Feds here have kept interest rates so low for so long. It’s good for some and not good for others. But it’s not a single person doing it here. Also nobody has been confiscated of their money.

      In Eritrea, one bipolar man wakes up in the morning and decides to rob people of their hard earned cash.

      Isaias can take away your children, your house, your money, your freedom, and your very own life any given day. He owns Eritreans.

      How we let someone like him, who has maybe 25% Eritrean blood do that to us blows my mind away. What he is doing is avenging his hatred, anger, and frustration on our people. He was hoping he would rule Eritrea, Ethiopia, and the whole horn region but that plan was quickly squashed as weyane gained more and momentum. Now he has no where to go. He is deeply hated by Ethiopians and increasingly so by Eritreans. This frustration is what’s making him act in a beastly manner. He hates Eritreans. Go to Asmara and get him out of his miseries.

      • dawit

        Lamek,

        You asked “How we let someone like him, who has maybe 25% Eritrean blood do that to us blows my mind away”.
        Can we say you ‘100% Eritrean blood’, was afraid to lead and die for Eritrean. Why don’t you 100% Eritrean blood go to Asmara and get rid of him, instead of asking me to do it for you? I am proud to be his supporter.

        • Lamek

          Hi dawit. No the favor is not for me. The favor is for you to get rid of him so that he can be relieved of all his miseries and haunting.

          There are tens of thousands of 100% Eritrean blood who bled for their country. IA on the other hand, took advantage of our culture of trust. We trusted him and he abused us for being too naive. He wanted us to meet him half way but we refused to see that he had set out, from the day he was recruited by Haileselassie and cia, to annihilate the Eritrean people. That is how much sickness he is under. He is suffering a lot mentally and emotionally. I was only asking you to go relieve him. I think you guys would be better off too because then you would focus on other things than defend the indefensible.

          • dawit

            Lamek,
            There are millions of 100% Eritreans supporting 100% IA. They are saying “Nsu Nhna, Nhna Nsu”. Can you figure it out, the riddle?

      • Solomon Haile

        Selamat lamek,
        How about we suggest a tariff hike of five percent?
        All of a sudden, I feel rich and want to vote for Plato’s Republic…
        Rasta Man Harmonics!
        tSAtSE

    • Solomon Haile

      Selamat Dawit,
      Have you talking me to Disney Land if I am recalling right that is???
      Gate prince low.
      While inside you don’t just percolate
      you participate and and and
      Seleste Be Bu Bi BYE Soladi!
      Twenty five percent?
      Is it then a discounted National Valuation (gain/loss) ____?
      Syllogism? Show your two cents! for a conclusion.
      Saay is a comedian Made in the USA!
      Since when is laughing out loud binary?
      lol = Cinco venty due?
      tSAtSE

  • Daniel

    Selamat!
    All countries have a means of controlling illegal transaction that facilitates criminal activity. For example In the UK all transaction exceeding £10, 000 is subjected to anti money laundering measures. This applies regardless weather one is a wholesaler or street stale vendor. The rules applies equally and same for all. Take one part of the UK anti money laundering rules. It stipulates ‘a business must keep all documents that relate to financial transactions, the identity of your customers, risk assessment and management procedures and processes’. Now isn’t this more draconian than Eritrean Government requiring citizens to use cheques for high value transaction? One suppose, only entity with criminal disposition would have a problem with such simple requirement. Using illiteracy as excuse to forgo compliance with the law docent wash either. In any land ignorance or illiteracy isn’t an excuse not to abide by the law.

    • Kim Hanna

      Selam Daniel,
      .
      In the U.S there is a “Currency Transaction Report” that has to be filled out if you come in with $10,000.00 in cash deposit to your account. This regulations have been on the books for over 40 years that I know of. They were trying to make it difficult for the drug business and in general money laundering.
      .
      So I am not sure what the Awate team is opposing.
      From my perch here in the U.S, I wish the same regulations are adopted in Ethiopia too. Maybe they do, I don’t know. Of course there are issues of available Bank branches and distances people have to travel and other numerous difficulties that the article could have used for their opposition to the program.
      Here, all I can see is the Eritrean Government is attempting to modernize and at the same time shine lights on economic activities. I think they deserve a benefit of a doubt or even support. Not EVERYTHING they do is bad. is it?
      .
      The ones who should worry about it are those who cannot provide proof why and where they got all that cash. If they sold an ox and got 15,000.00 Nakfa, why not get a check and deposit it in your account. ( if the check bounces that is another issue)
      .
      You cannot catch all the crooks but the dark areas they have been aggregating all of a sudden the flood light is on.
      .
      Mr. K.H

      • Abi

        Hi Mr Kim
        I have no clue when it comes to banking and finance ( as everything else). Don’t you think what the Eritrean Government is doing causes deflation? I was expecting the Awate Team or the “big guys ” to say a thing or two about it. May be they will get back to it after celebrating the Fenqil victory.
        If you ask me however, the Fenqil victory is already deflated .

        • Dear Abi,

          I too have very little clue about economics. From the few things I understand, I think that it is a type of capital control. Whether you have, for e.g., 1m Nakfas or 100K or 10K in the bank; you can draw only a limited amount of 5K or 3K a month; more or less the same amount for all. If you sale your house or car, you receive a bank cheque, which means that your money is automatically deposited in the bank, provided that the bank cheque is covered with a similar amount of deposit. I donot know if you can use the cheque you received for the next transaction. If so, it means that it replace cash, and becomes cash by itself. I think that is imposible.

          One can say that theoretically it is somehow similar with using only a debit card and a credit card, where the ultimate aim is to avoid the use of cash money all together, and thus control tax evasion. From what I know, Sweden is planning to do so in the near future. The point is that, in transaction with debit card, the money is reduced from your bank account automatically, and in credit card you are indebted to a bank. In the first case, if you have no money in your account, no transaction takes place. On the contrary, if a bank cheque is not covered with the same amount of deposit, which so often occurs, then you remain with a piece of paper that has no value at all.

          You can imagine how much farmers, traders etc, most of them uneducated, feel confused, when told to use bank cheques. The whole issue creates a bottleneck in the economy. I think that, as you said, this leads to deflation, and the final result is that businesses simply stop functioning, because people do not have available money in their hands. Either the regime has run short of cash, or cannot do anything about the corrupt gov. officials, or something similar is happening.
          I leave it at this point for the real economists to educate us.

          • Daniel

            just to put it into context, only 3% of the U.S. money supply is paper cash. The rest of it, 97% only exists in electronic form. Now, all Eritrean Governmnent is doing, make people use cheque in lieu of money. This neither increase nor decrease the money in the economy hence has no bearing on inflation or deflation.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Daniel,

            I think when you look at from the economic point of view, re taxation and and elimination of corruption, it may make sense. But comparing the banking system of western countries, like that of the UK and the US with that of Eritrea is not really a good comparison. Before these countries introduced electronic system of payment (which is pretty much what they use these days), they have build the infrastructure and they have been building it for years. I happen to work on this field, not the actual economic aspect but rather the technical aspect of it for years and I can say, it was going on for the past 15 or so years….and still continuing.

            I don’t know what is there in Eritrea in comparison. Sure the check is a options but it has it’ own problems.

            For example if someone sells you an ox and you give him a check. But there is no money available in the bank, because as far as I know there banks do not grantee that a check is certified.

            So the person collects his ox, and next day he goes awol (leave the country). How would this farmer able to collect the money. In another scenario…how do you prevent for people printing “forged check” and that those check goes on circulation?

            How do you expect a person who does not know how to read (like the farmer) which I am sure there are millions of people, expect to write / read a check?

            How do you expect a person who require extra cash for wedding as in example, and I have seen the 2 pages forum that they need to fill to justify…like how much they have to pay for gold, the singer, the band, etc…. Do you think this is really justifiable for a country / government to intrude this type of control on the citizens in how they want to live their lives….

            Berhe

          • Daniel

            Hello Berhe Y, let me try to answer your question in the order you have put them

            I am not comparing Eritrean banking system to that of the West. Example, cheque in the UK has all but disappeared. In fact in 2011, there was a plan to scrap the cheque books by 2018. Therefore Eritrea is introducing a practice Western countries have used for ages and are looking to do away with.

            Yes, there is a possibility cheque may bounce. But isn’t this the same in the west? When someone pay you by cheque, you have no guarantee it will be honoured. Yes some banks do guarantee cheque but only to small extent. In the UK it is typical £50. The maximum is £250 (if you are a primary account holder). However remember, passing a cheque knowingly it will bounce is a criminal offence and will entail punitive action. Plus that is what courts are there for.

            It is possible cheques could be forged. But then so does currency.

            Again it is possible a person may pass a bad cheque and leave the country. But how is this different to a German fleeing his country because he has passed a bad cheque? And realistically, what is the likelihood people abandon their home and livelihood for such trivial matter?

            In the absence of literacy, people can employ middlemen to facilitate trade and transaction.

            Well, at airports and prior to boarding a flight, people travelling on holiday/vacation are routinely subjected to sniffer dogs. And if one is found to be carrying large amount of money, the police will demand to know where the money came from and for what purpose it will be used. And if people fail to come up with valid reason, their money will be confiscated, and even made to miss their vacation and end up at police station. Now, isn’t this more intrusive than asking people to justify their wedding expenses?

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Daniel,

            You make really a sound argument. You seem to be well informed and may even be part of the group who is doing all these changes.

            I may even take the decision of the government and its reason at face value which are intended for better future.

            How ever I have two points that make skeptical.

            1) Isayas Afeworki and his appointed government inherent believe that the Eritrean people are never to be trusted that they have to justify and be controlled the of their daily affairs. The example you used, where a citizen withdraw his own money to spend, that the justification it requires VS a government requires people declare money over 10,000 when traveling abroad, either to prevent money laundering or for security reason. No citizen in the UK is required to do so on daily basis.

            2) Isayas Afeworki and his self appointed government have no record of being transparent to the people the rule over and asking the people to be transparent is really gimTlish, may nAqeb. Where is the money they got from Bisha, how much money they spend sponsoring Ethiopian opposition operations, when are they going to make the budget public.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hi Daniel
            You sound like a go to guy when it comes to finance and banking.
            Question
            How do you add a VAT when you sell an ox ?Where is the added value? You are not selling a processed product. Teach me.
            Also when grandpa sells his ox to Daniel, did he add any sells tax? I don’t think you are confusing VAT with sells tax. In this case did you pay grandpa 2000Nk+ applicable sells tax which he has to report to the Uncle Sam/ IA?
            Thanks

          • Daniel

            Hi Abi,
            Before I answer you question, let me give you a real life example. One time, I was waiting to collect my luggage at London Heathrow airport when this fresh faced 18 year old American girl approached me to seek my assistance in hauling her four huge luggage into the cart. As the suitcases were too big to load them onto one single cart I offered to use my cart to carry two of her luggage. Anyways, snaking way our through the custom channel, an officer half-heartedly quired if I have anything to declare. I said no. He turned to the American girl and asked the same question. She replied no. He was about to let us go, when he asked if she was carrying any laptop. She answered yes. The next question was, how cost of laptop, when she bought it and how long she would be staying in the UK. The reply came, cost of laptop $ 3000 (gift from her mom) about a month old and she is in the UK for two years as she is attendeing university course. At that point the customer officer, wiped out is calculator and proceeded to punch some digit. Long story sort, under the rules since she is importing Goods to the UK, the item is relatively new and she will be staying in the UK for more than three weeks she is liable to pay VAT at 17.5%. The tearful reaction of the girl of course wasn’t nice thing to see. Suffice to they rules are rules and there is no way to circumvante them. Needless to say, her lawyer father who was waiting in the arrivals hall wasn’t the least bit impressed.

            Coming back to our grandpa and his ox, in ideal world, after completing the trasaction grandpa is suppose to approach the tax man in good faith, make an honest declaration and pay his due tax. But we all know life doesn’t work like that. So what is the alternative? The alternative is, when grandpa goes to bank to deposit his cheque, the first question is to ask where the money come from. When grandpa affirms it is from sale of an ox, the banking authorise then make the necessary tax dedication and the rest credit in grandpa account. Does this make sense?

          • Abi

            Hi Daniel
            I understand VAT when it comes to finished products like the shoe. There is value added on the skin or the hide. The finished product has a higher value. My question is why you tax the farmer for selling his ox? I thought VAT is paid by the consumer just like luxury tax.
            Thanks anyway. I have to do a little bit more reading.

          • Daniel

            HI Abi,

            You ask ”My question is why you tax the farmer for selling his ox?”

            But the farmer is not being ‘taxed’ per se. He is mere ”passing on” VAT he levied on the consumer when selling the ox. make sense?

            P.s the farmer is by law required to levy VAT when selling a product.

          • dawit

            Hi Abi,
            Daniel gave a good general approach how they will deduct the VAT. Here in the US we have Sales Tax. Both are consumption taxes, where the consumer has to pay the government a tax for consuming an item that he/she purchased.
            The collection of the tax is done by the seller of that finished or final product. Let see grandpa bought a 5 month calf from farmer for 4950 N. Assume, there is 10% sales tax, the farmer collects 495 N for tax to the government and pocket the difference 4500.N. grandpa feed the calf (processing) and turn it into a bull and sell it to a consumer for 20000 N. Grandpa has to collect 10% consumption tax which will be 2000 N. pay to the government and pocket the difference of 18,000 N. The government have to pay a refund to grandpa the tax he already paid when he purchased the calf for 4950 N, the tax was 495 N which the farmer collected and turned to the government. Therefore net tax collected is 2000. The value added tax should be 1505 N.
            In the US Sales tax system, the farmer would not have collected the sales tax for the sale of the calf, because grandpa is not the final consumer, he is the processor of calf into a bull. In the US Sale Tax system a seller does not collect tax if the item is for resale. At the end both system would collect the same 2000 N. from the final consumer.

          • Abi

            Selam Horizon
            When there is less money in circulation, specially in a country like ours where people are not used to a banking system , it brings confidence on the government to zero. Everyone wants to hold on to his paper money. As you said, let’s here it from the big guys . I don’t want to comment beyond the Horizon.
            My grandfather told me in the old good days he preferred the coins than the paper birr. Imagine writing him a check….

          • Dear Abi,

            As a young boy in my village, I remember old men and women had this habit of checking with their teeth the edge of the coins they received. This way they could easily tell the denomination of the coins (mainly 25 and 50 cents). As much as paper money was concerned, the color of the bank note was the most important thing. Even then they usually tried to avoid paper money if possible, because there was that problem of safely depositing paper money in their homes. It could be easily destroyed by so many factors. Therefore, your grandfather was wise to prefer coins to paper money.

          • Abi

            Hi Horizon
            The game is ” ej bej, fiqir endiderej!”

          • dawit

            Hi Abi,
            Please don’t underestimate the capacity or intelligence of our peoples. Your grandfather lived on ‘Donkey’s Age’ and today we live in electronic age. If people can learn to use mobile phones, why can’t they learn to use write checks . Your grandfather may like to do business face to face, (ej bej) but today we live in the age of mobile phone to do our transactions. We live in age where you can’t see, smell or touch money, just an electronic signal that exist in the cyber space.
            You talked about people having confidence in their government. Abi believe or not Eritrean people with the exception of those oppositions that you can count with your fingers, the great majority trust their government. Eri government is a government that is “Of the people, by the people for the people”. That is why the government was able to change the old Nakfa to the new Nakfa in two weeks time.
            Now the subject of economics, inflation deflation is advanced staff. Believe me the Awate staff who wrote the article and many AT member who comment on the subject have no clue about the nature and function of money in an economy.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam dawit,
            .
            Dawit, few minutes ago I read something you wrote and I agreed 100%. I have to read it again to verify that it was my own dawit who wrote it. The world was out of sink for me, how could it be?
            .
            Then you turned up here and made your world and my world normal again. Steeped in your cesspool, upside down abnormal and incoherent as usual.
            .
            Mr. K.H

          • Kibreab

            Dear Abi and Horizon,
            There are several tools to introduce modern financial systems
            in any economy and you just don’t do it by decree… if that is easy, almost all developing
            countries would have done it by a simple decree. I guess, it would be much easier
            to decree democracy than to decree modernization of the banking system or
            financial transactions. If the objective of the Gov’t policy is modernization
            of the financial institutions without creating uncertainty in the economy, then
            it could have adopt a different approach such as

            1. First of it should be gradual and taking a few years by employing certain economic tool at the Gov’t disposal employing incentive techniques using interest rate, tax, modifying
            investment codes, spending allocation etc

            2. Start with what the Gov’t controlled institutions first, i.e., start paying salaries of Gov’t employees by check and learn from it …

            3. Revisiting Gov’t expenditure on the hope to reduce its dominant involvement in the economy and
            giving a space and a chance to the private sector

            4. Introduce Bonds or similar financial tools by allowing private sector investment in the mining industry and many Gov’t owned industry

            Of course, all these are wishful thinking unless there is a political will to structurally change the current course. But the questions is do we really know what is
            the real motives of currency change?

          • AOsman

            Abi,
            keeping coins, were you an arsonist as a kid?
            Regards
            AOsman

          • Abi

            Hi A Osman
            I have been many things as a kid.
            Anjet neber yemaqaTlew.

        • Kibreab

          Dear Abi,

          Here is my quick take on your question on stagflation in relation to Eritrean
          economy:

          Stagflation is a condition for the economy for high unemployment, inflation and economic contractions. Where do we start?
          1. Unemployment: no need to talk about this in
          Eritrean case as there is no real private
          sector to absorb the labor market growth even with “the official unemployment
          rate of about 9%”
          2. Inflation: already we have significant high price for durable and non-durable goods. The current price reduction for non-durable goods is not sustainable without increasing supply in the market. I have not seen or heard any real policy measure to increase the supply in the market or
          deregulation policy to incentivize the private sector while the demand is going
          to increase with new planned salary raise.
          3. Economic Contraction. The size of the any nation
          economy is measured by the total value of goods and services the nation
          produces. In classic economics, it is measured by the total consumption made by consumers (C), investment by business (I) and government spending (G) and next export (Ex-Im). Just looking at these standard measures of GDP = C+I+G+(Ex-Im) , the current policy of liquidity
          shortages will have a negative impact on consumption and investment there by
          result in a reduction in GDP (contraction of the economy). Gov’t Expenditures
          is already over 100% of the GDP over the last three years which left no rooms
          to do further investment.

          Adding all these with the cost of UNCERTINITY that this kind of policy introduces in the economy combined with the lack of confidence by the market players, it is not that difficult to imagine
          significant economic crisis in the horizon, unless of course, the Gov’t shows
          willingness to structurally change and shift its gear in the management of the
          economy.

          Hope this helps.
          Kibreab

          • Abi

            Hi Kibreab
            Just beautiful!
            Amlak yakbrlign.

          • Daniel

            Hello Kibreab,

            nflation: already we have significant high price for durable and non-durable goods. The current price reduction for non-durable goods is not sustainable without increasing supply in the market. I have not seen or heard any real policy measure to increase the supply in the market or
            deregulation policy to incentivize the private sector while the demand is going to increase with new planned salary raise.

            Obviously building hundred of dams, distribution of selective seed, building human capacity…..etc in order to increase productivity doesn’t fall into your category of ‘policy measure to increase the supply in the market’

          • Daniel

            Hello Kibreab,

            Building hundreds of dams, moving away from rained agriculture to irrigation, distribution of selective seeds, increasing human capacity…etc. This obviously doesn’t fall into your category of ‘policy measure to increase the supply in the market…’. Yes or No?

          • Kibreab

            Dear Daniel,
            I wouldn’t go there … Just remember the deteriorating similar infrastructures
            in the economy as well so I beg to differ. Gov’t cannot continue to maintain financing such
            kinds of activity from its tax revenue or borrowing from the bank. At this time,
            both sources of funding are at critically low given Gov’t recent measures and
            its unlimited appetite for spending. Country’s foreign debt is also growing and
            estimated to be over $1.2 billion dollar as of 2014. So, this kind of deficit financing
            can’t go forever without being punished in the form of hyperinflation, or
            capital flight or bankruptcy. In an economy where significant Gov’t control
            such as ours, the Aggregate Demand (AD) is already far beyond the Aggregate Supply
            (AS). The only way to reduce the pressure of AD in the economy is by increasing
            AS or reducing AD which is essentially means in the short term reducing Gov’t expenditures,
            or reducing consumer consumptions, or Investment which in turn results in
            contraction of the economy. So, what is the
            Gov’t plan to expand the AS in economy? Just continue what it has been doing
            for the last 25 years or introducing a bold measure to unleash the potential country’s
            production possibilities frontiers.

          • Daniel

            Hello Kibreab,

            Just to pull you on your figures of Eritrea External debt. Eritrean external debt is in fact decreasing not increasing. According to World Bank figures for 2011-2014 is:

            2011 $1,055,238,000
            2012 $994,095,000
            2013 $945,548,000
            2014 $908,093,000

            For 2015 there is no available data. However given Eritrean robust mining sector and going by past trends one expect this minscule amount to be even lower. And remember the estimated $1 billion revenue from Potash alone. Now, isn’t this contrary to world trend of sky rocketing external debt countries find themselves under?

            1) So your assertion….. ”Country’s foreign debt is also growing and estimated to be over $1.2 billion dollar as of 2014”…….would you accpet is plain wrong.

            2) ”At this time, both sources of funding are at critically low given Gov’t recent measures and
            its unlimited appetite for spending”…. Do you have any tangible data to back this claim? If so would you mind sharing them?

          • Kibreab

            Dear Daniel,
            I agree with you that the debt is not that bad compared to other
            countries but is not sustainable looking at as percentage of the country’s GDP. (See ADB Report)

            1. I am familiar with your foreign debt figure above but don’t believe these numbers includes
            private dealings with many bilateral governments.

            2. As for my claim of low sources of funding, you just have to look at the recent
            Gov’t measure which aims to address this critical liquidity shortages in the economy
            – both Market and Funding liquidity of the economy while showing no sign of cut
            in Gov’t expenditure. If you are looking for me to provide you data to prove my
            point then I guess we have to wait until the Ministry of Finance provides the
            data.

          • Daniel

            Hi Kebreab,
            So long as you state your views as subjective, then you are entitled to your opinion.

          • saay7

            Selamat Daniel:

            A small fraction of the 200 million Euro that Eritrea received is for capacity building in financial reporting. Until (if) it does, a lot of the numbers reported for Eritrea (and, indeed, for most of Africa) are really educated guesses, dependent on whether we find the source reporting them to be credible. When one drills down to the source, it always ends up being the World Bank and the IMF, none of which has a presence in Eritrea.

            With that caveat out of the way, what is clear to me is that the Government of Eritrea is terrible steward of Eritrea’s economy. I will give some datapoints from various sources, beginning with debt, particularly as a percentage of GDP.

            1. DEBT

            There is a website called statista.com which provides impressive stats–specially if you are a premium subscriber. It lists, among other things, “the 20 countries with the highest public debt in 2015 in relation to the gross domestic product (GDP)”.

            Eritrea ranks 3rd: You can read it for yourself here:

            http://www.statista.com/statistics/268177/countries-with-the-highest-public-debt/

            2. POVERTY

            Last year, the World Economic Forum sourced GFMag to identified the world’s richest and poorest countries.
            Here’s where Eritrea ranks: (8th poorest in the world)

            https://www.gfmag.com/global-data/economic-data/richest-countries-in-the-world?page=12

            3. HUMAN DEVELOPMENT INDEX

            The UNDP issues the Human Development Report annually. Now, since the UNDP is the same institution that issues the MDG reports that every government supporter brags about, it stands to reason that they should also find its HDR credible.

            For the last year report (in 2015, for 2014), Eritrea was ranked # 186 in the UNDP’s Human Development Index beating only Central African Republic and Niger. You can find that report here:

            http://hdr.undp.org/sites/default/files/ranking.pdf

            4. CORRUPTION

            Whenever people here “corruption” they automatically think of petty bribes and say, “nope, no corruption in Eritrea, relative to the rest of Africa.” But “corruption” has a more comprehensive definition, as reported by “Transparency International” and in its annual report, TI ranks Eritrea as one of most corrupt (154/168).

            http://www.transparency.org/country/#ERI

            5. EASE OF DOING BUSINESS

            The World Bank issues Ease of Doing Business every year. Here’s one benchmarked to June 2015, which shows Eritrea ranked dead last

            http://www.doingbusiness.org/rankings

            The larger point here is, as the Americans say, “personnel is policy.” The same people, with the same mindset, that were responsible for creating the policies that mired Eritrea in a ditch cannot be counted on to get out of the ditch. It is not that they have bad intentions; it is that they have a strong affinity to a command economy.

            I leave you with this: when I wrote my review of President Isaias Afwerki’s year end interview with State media, I concluded that he is all set to do more commanding and more controlling. A reader writes the following: “Your analysis re: Isaias plans to command economy, society has proven 100% true. PIA already started to measure rooms and decide the prices of the real estate business, eggs and the amount of money circulation per family. Btw, landlord are not allowed to contact their tenants from now on: it is the Kebeles who would receive the money, take the tax out of it, and give any amount they believe is legally fair to the landlord. Next in line is how much should bus drivers charge commuters. Next step could be how many times should a husband and wife sleep together per week.”

            saay

        • Kim Hanna

          Selam Abi,
          .
          I have a limited experience in Banking and by no means qualifies me as an expert in the field.
          If you have ever been involved in buying or selling a house in the western U.S, that is the advanced version of the complexities of the CHECK and OX situation.
          .
          I think the Eritrean government is attempting to illuminate (see) the activities of people with large amount of cash and possibly eliminate illegal and corrupt practices. I am saying this in the absence of facts to the contrary.
          As I understand it all they are doing is substituting check for cash for large ticket items. The definition of large and small must be reasonable according to the localities.
          .
          Let us take the Ox the Awate team brought up and Berhe pointed out the potential problems. There is a lot of hypothetical scenarios that we can bring up including paying the Farmer with counterfeit currency and leaving the country. We have to sleep in spite of occasional nightmares.
          Here is one likely solution for buying and selling the Ox. The buyer will meet the seller at the bank to give him the big CHECK. The farmer goes to the bank official with the buyer to get confirmation of the update of his savings account. Once he gets his receipt from the bank official and the money transaction is completed. The farmer will lead the buyer to where the Ox is waiting and being watched by a relative and a couple of his boys. The buyer will lead the Ox away while the two boys wiping tears will follow their Dad to go home. The Banker, government knows what exactly happened. Life goes on.
          .
          Someone mentioned that millions not being able to read and write a check. Well then, reading and writing found another compelling reason to be part of the new modern culture. In the mean time those who can read and write in the family have a chair at the family table. That is a side benefit.
          .
          I hope people with actual facts on the ground would write to shed light what is happening. For example, I have a nagging questions why in Ethiopia we needed ATM machines. Unless it is to say we are becoming “modern” I couldn’t in my mind justify that kind of huge expense for what is claimed to be the convenience of customers. There is a huge bill to be paid just to keep it working, maintenance, where I don’t see that being our forte in all other things. However, a couple of more tellers, in every branch would have been more convenient and solved more problems.
          .
          Mr. K.H
          P.S
          Oh!, regarding my last statement, I could call myself an opposition and tell you that the ATM manufacturers paid a “commission” for the sale of the machines. I could say that and be believed without any evidence, but I will not say that.

          • Abi

            Hi Kim
            Do you see how many people are involved including a bank in selling an ox?
            How about opening a bank at the cattle market? I see a good business potential.
            ” Bere enashashiTalen !
            Open 7 days. Lowest common….
            The question is who provides the ” menajo “? Seller or buyer? How about menajo for rent? Hourly, daily…

      • Daniel

        Hi Kim, there is nothing to oppose here hence the label ‘off position’ to the ilks of Awate team who write this kind of nonsensical articles opposing anything and everything under the sun.

      • Hayat Adem

        Hi KH,
        Follow me, I am going to complicate your life now. We have a ruralite society for the most part. The reason why Gebar Berhe decides to sell his ox is rarely for an investment but to cover for immediate need miscellaneous purchases and maybe repayments. Gebar Berhe has a need to buy some food grocery for the next month. His two kids are also pressing for new clothes and school supply.He also wants to meet a deadline to repay what he borrowed from his neighbor. And he has other urgent and non-urgent expenses in line. So he decides to sell his ox. He found a buyer for 15000N. He is offered a check. Let’s say it is not a dry check and the bank has a system guaranteeing the quality of the check before hand. But there are other problems. The distance between every check and a cash equal to the distance to reach the bank, plus the availability of service in the bank, plus a zero question of the bank to accept and cash the check. You cannot buy and sell things through a third person’s check. Also, many rural markets don’t have bank services. Now, Gebar Berhe may have closed the deal after the banks closed services. The next days could be holidays where banks are closed. Gebar Berhe may even have to go to another town incurring transport cost to cash it. Gebar Berhe still carries that big check but he can’t go back home with the grocery food stuff home. The kids were waiting for what they were promised but showing the check would not equally make them happy as much as trying their new closes, promised transfered to next days. The neighbor may nock at the Gebar Berhe’s house only to find that he is not getting his money. Relationship may strain and people may now be less willing to readily lend and borrow money. It was a day even a sale of ox couldn’t make it a good day. Next day, Gebar Berhe goes to the bank early morning. He waits his line, approaches the counter, faces the teller and presents his check. Oh, something happened, the check was mishandled or some liquid was spilled on it and it is damaged a bit and rendering no validity as is. Oh, Gebar Berhe has to look for the buyer to ask him to write another check. And he goes to another town to find him. He reached there tired and almost half of the day eaten, and knocks at the door of the buyer. Door opens by the wife of the buyer. Gebar Berhe tells her politely what brought him. Wuuy mishkinay dekhimkum ember, nisom deaa geyshom endiyom Asmara. /Sorry, you just missed him. he left for Asmara. He will be back in a week time….What is a check? Check is nearly as good as a cash only in places where well oiled transaction facilities and banking infrastructures are readily in place.

        • Kim Hanna

          Selam Hayat Adem,
          .
          I was primarily addressing the point or points of the article of the Awate Team. I thought the piece was unreasonable and they were being negative just to be opposing, in my opinion.
          I am not here to support or oppose the Eritrean government. My goodness, someone wanted me to admit I am a closet supporter of PFDJ. That was a little wacho.
          .
          If your description of the possible hardship of Gebar Berhe was the article, perhaps it would be to the point. Their approach was different.
          The reality as it exists now, the government policy is at implementation stage. I have to assume their will be sad and hard stories to come out. Sometimes the choices are not between good and bad but between bad and worse.
          .
          The principle of replacing cash with check for high ticket items does have many advantages in many different ways. I have mentioned a couple in my post to Abi, a little earlier. That was why I wished the Ethiopian Government would consider the policy too.
          I hope the implementation process is less of a hardship than you project, I am not here to minimize that aspect.
          .
          Mr. K.H

          • Dear Mr. K. H.,

            Personally, I am not aware of any other country that has used in the past the economic policy similar to that of the Eritrean regime, we are discussing now. I think that Eritrean economy has just started to travel through uncharted territory. Therefore, don’t you think that we should first wait and see the outcome of DIA’s experiment? In the country I live, I hear of hundreds of millions of uncovered and worthless bank cheques float in the market, and nobody wants to touch them even with a long stick, let alone accept them. They have become almost obsolete.

            There are European countries where certain types of transactions (e.g. paying house rents, etc) and transactions above a certain amount are done only through e-banking. In addition, the high currency denomination of 500 Euros is under discussion to be withdrawn from circulation, because it was found out that it is the currency the Russian Mafia and other illegal underground economies choose to use, because it takes less space to hide.

            If Ethiopia has to move forward in this field, here is a good example to copy and implement. Ethiopia can try this, may be in 10 yrs, in the main cities, where banks are available and ATM machines have started to show up, of course, after putting in place the necessary technology and properly educating the people, rather than going to bank cheques.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Horizon,
            .
            ” Therefore, don’t you think that we should first wait and see the outcome of DIA’s experiment?”
            I absolutely agree, specially finding that optimum cut off amount, which is critical. I still believe nations are trying to minimize cash usage for large ticket items.
            .
            Cash is the storage place for all sorts of evils in virtually all societies.
            Corrupt business men, public officials, even governments use cash in large scale to do their bad deeds.
            .
            I can just imagine the cash transactions of Embassies of Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states in all parts of the world.
            .
            The kind of schemes the corrupt individuals in question go through to avoid detection of having so much cash on hand usually leads to their own uncovering.
            It does not eliminate all corruption but makes it easier to catch and prosecute some and dissuades others from participating in the 1st place.
            .
            The question and apprehension that some Awatistas brought up and the timing of it is a legitimate concern. I was attempting to show the other side. I think I will listen to Kokeb Selam in earnest from now on.
            .
            Mr. K.H

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear K.H

            Do you notice some of us are not really interested on this type of debates? Let others say why they are not but for me, PFDJ is illegal in first place and the door is closed already to talk the details of any action PFDJ take .

      • Dis Donc

        Dear whatever you call yourself,
        This is the most bizzar, detatched, and pathetic reasoning that I have ever seen, here in this site. Why don’t you come out of the closet and admit that you like PFDJ. Ain’t nothing wrong with that!!

      • Sarah Ogbay

        Selam Daniel and Kim.
        I am surprised that you both are talking about how thr UK and the USA govts control money and compare it to the way Eritrean govt handled the currency exchange. In what ways and ground or parameters are Eritrean govt and UK/US comparable except that they are all called govts. Eritrean people are not ready for business transaction using checks. You can not simply imposed checks on people who barely have any control of their own budget, business or otherwise. Where do the people who can not read or write fit in the greedy policy. Isn’t it the govt’ job to make live easy for the majority of the people in situations of change? Aren’t the owners of small businesses Eritreans as well? Why would theyebe compelled to sell their goods at lose because there is no cash in circulation. Are they (especially businesses of perishable goods) being equated to the ‘fat cats’ the govt deliberately unleash on the Eritrean people. If a kilo of tomatoes that was being sold for 80 nakfa is being sold for 20 or 25 it does not mean the economy has improved. Has the govt reduced the price of its rare supply of energy? Has the price of fuel been reduced? Has supply increased because of the new currency policy? And anyway where do the people most of whom live on handout from relatives in the diaspora fit in this govt’s policy? Is the govt also ready to deal with check verfications and frauds? Banks in eritrea can barly handle normal transaction with the on and off supply of electricity. It might be easy for those of us who live in the west and have no or very little experience of the day to day lived experiences inside eritrea to speak. But this policy has simply made people worry endlessly about how they spend their own money.

    • Amanuel

      Hi Daniel
      Your comparison is out of place even assuming what you have said about UK anti money laundering is accurate (I know it is not). However, I want to engage you on fundamental issue. All new laws, rules and regulation in UK are issued after proper consultation and debate by elected parliament and indirectly elected or selected Lords. But in today’s Eritrea by few individuals out of thin air. No consultation no debate. For example the issue at hand was not part of the rules issued on Dec but as a reaction to a new development. I am sure you agree with me that the main problem is trust and that is why people kept before the change and still trying to keep their cash out of the banks. When the new currency was realised the regime has allocated an amount which will be in circulation in a given time with assumption that some will come back to the bank. But that didn’t materialise as people don’t trust the regime and start to change it in to hard currency instead of depositing to the banks. You see it is fixing the leak with out considering that if that action will result in blocking the tube transporting life saving liquid to who are at the other end. The regime is in rivalry with the shop keepers and small business owners but the damage is to those whom live

      • Daniel

        Hello Amanuel,

        Well, for a society like ours whom this kind of banking practice is alien, you are not expect for all to take it like a duck to water, are you? Come on, let us be sensible here. If there is any mishaps, that is only natural. It takes a lot longer than more two month for monetary policy to take root, mishaps to be ironed out and process refined. The operative word is patience.

        • Amanuel

          Hi Daniel
          It takes years for monastery policy to take roots and it absurd it was decided to be implemented with in days. For example

          • Daniel

            Hi Amauel
            In that case give it years for the new policy to take root then judge it. Don’t condemn it as a failure after seven weeks.

          • Amanuel

            Are you serious Daniel? It was designed to fail. It has nothing to do with the economy but to do with in trapping people like your self in the PFDJ camp and robbing people’s hard earned cash in passing.

          • Daniel

            Well, retaining proceed of criminals from criminal and illegal activity doesn’t equate to robbery.

          • Hayat Adem

            Dear Daniel,
            Currency management is one of the many standard macro tools that is always employed in stimulating the economy (that is investment and productivity) and guarding the market (correcting excess or maintaining equipoise). Never ever was a tool you unleash at will to get at individuals and criminals at the expense of risking macroeconomic imbalances. You don’t mobilize macroeconomic policy to punish ill-players. Legislate a new crime law, if there was not one. Or enforce the existing. Please, do not fantasize or fool yourselves believing that the Eritrean government can invent new ways of undercutting the laws of economic physics. No one was able. It is not something you can defy it at will.
            Hayat

          • Daniel

            Hayat
            Isn’t combating illicite financial transactions and money laundering part and parcel of mechanizms that safe guarding the integrity of a state economy? What good is having a super monetary system without having the tools to maintain its integrity?

          • Hayat Adem

            Daniel,
            Illicit transactions and money laundering can be handled by the law. If there is a gap in the law, write a law that criminalizes such activities. Launching a monetary tool to combat illicit transactions is an overkill for the intended purpose and an invitation to colossally unintended consequences. I am detecting an economic literacy in your comments. You don’t kill the patient in order to contain the disease. Because the primary purpose of the medical intervention is to cure the person not to kill the disease. The primary purpose of currency management and monetary tools is to keep investment, productions and markets functioning and expanding. They are aimed at the systems not at individuals. Otherwise, the damage is exponentially higher than the benefit. I see the following chains of effects, and they cross-reinforce each other at every step: consumer’s confidence will be hit (that means minimum or even below minimum spending); retailers will be hit because of confidence volatility and volume shrinkage, production will be hit because of demand collapse; investment will be discouraged; unemployment will surge; more exodus, more instability… that is not the way to build a new nation, my friend. The other point, there are not really short cuts to economic solutions. I”m being puzzled by the enthusiasm of some supporters as if the regime has hit a lucky panacea to the illness. Even IA looks carried away by his magical intervention from the last interview: sherfi naqfa kindey diya zela? anne bizuH ayketatelon eie. Saay is a specialist on him and he can say more about that line. But if you ask me, he was happy about the artificially set rate and he wanted to hear it from the journalists than saying it. The journalists were caught unprepared and didn’t know what he wanted to hear and hesitated to supply him with the material. It is no brainier the economic situation will precipitate into either stagnate at hibernating minimum life or will go uncontrollable and explode in his face.
            Hayat

          • Daniel

            Hayat,
            Central to your argument for the dismissal of the new policy is the adverse impact it would have on consumer confidence and the devastating economic catastrophe it would entail. However, I must tell you this is a hollow argument. Here is why.

            You would know, In the West what is referred by lose of consumer confidence is the tightening of the spending belt by the public due to perceived or otherwise pessimistic outlook over the economy. Now, when consumer confidence is low, people in the west cut on what I would term leisure spending, i.e foreign vacation, branded goods, new cars, dining out, home renovation, home purchase, caviar e.t.c. As a result travel industry suffer, the auto industry suffer, the retail industry suffer……so on and so forth. However, what people do not do is stop buying food or paying rent. This because it is a necessity.

            In Eritrea, for 99% of the population the most pressing issue is the provision of three meals a day and maintaining a roof over their head. People don’t routinely go on foreign vacation, upgrade their TV, laptop or iPhone to the latest model every 12 month, renovate their home, upgrade their car……….The point I am trying to make is the notion of high/low consumer confidance doesn’t apply to Eritrea. Unfortunately Eritreans don’t have that luxury yet.

            What would be devastating for Eritrea and its people is to have a situation where the State has no coherent strategy and policy for combating economic crimes such as money laundering, corruption, fraud, tax evasion and money hoarding. The new proclamation will go along way in weeding out the criminals and facilitate the prevention of damage to Eritrea eceonomy.

          • Hayat Adem

            Daniel,
            You made a good point on the distinctive nature of the typical consumer in Eritrea. As you said, it is called consumer for living, unlike consumers in the west which are critical actors on stimulating the economy. I want to show one contradiction in your argument. On the one hand you said money hoarding is one of the problems targeted. Tax evasion is another, you said. Also you included Money Laundering and Corruption as target problems.
            Money laundering and corruption can still continue at the same scale or even with added fields now that the government has added new opportunities for corruption by creating unnecessary verifying and controlling mechanisms. If 99% of Eritreans are concerned more or less with subsistence living as in food and shelter, they will not have any money left to be horded.
            On the fronts like, Investment and Production, these kind of monetary bulldozing will not be encouraging. Those two fronts are the future of the country will have to depend on. The other sector is Remittance. What do you the impact of the new rule would be on Remittance, a significant part of the Eritrean economy. I see this: Remittance money will be cut to the minimum level only to sustain a basic living. That was the kind of consumer confidence I was talking. Diaspora spending like in buying plots and buildings will shrink. We have no much export economy to speak of but, if there was it would have been hit hard by the new move. Our little export economy was in the form of “export within”, that is hard currency earned from tourists and visitors. That will be a victim, as well.
            I can see your point on the chance the new decision gives to out game bad players. But its negative impact as spoiler of the macroeconomic situation far more feared than its benefit. Tax evasion one area of concern you mention. And it is true, the government seems keen to go on tightening all the loopholes and broadening the base by including new areas of earnings like revenues from house lease. But the best and sustainable tax revenue for any government comes from a vibrant and expanding economy. A shrinking or stagnant economy means a weak tax base.
            Like I said, there are surgical instruments that cold have more effective and with zero poisoning of the macro balances. Lastly, I must say this: you are the only government policy guy I have ever come to witness of good composure and calmly advancing issue based arguments. Many of your points also carry a lot of economic sense. Thanks. Hayat

          • Daniel

            Hayat,
            When it comes to money hoarding, the two biggest culprits are human traffickers and black market currency dealers. What percentage of the population do you think are engaged in this practice…1% at most? If you agree with that, it is then safe to deduce the other 99% are rudimentary players. As far as diaspors remittance go, in the very short term it is expected for remittance to contract as people come to terms of the shock having to exchange the currency at 1/6 of the value they are accustomed to. In the medium and long term however, so the long as the government enforce the rules stringently and eliminate all illegal dealers (this is absolutely imperative) then there is no reason why remmitance wouldn’t continue to flow through the proper channel. You will be amazed at the capacity of humans to adopt, of course only time will tell. One thing is absolutely clear, no government for any reason can yield to criminal activity. Doing so isl like inviting the lunatic to running the asylum. The end result is doesn’t bear thinking about.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Daniel,

            Since you human traffickers are one of the biggest culprit, would it make sense to end the trafficking instead of changing money or controlling the way things are going on.

            Eritrea is probably the only third world country that has human trafficking problem that impact its economy, in other words the problem is not at the source country but rather at the destination.

            And the second problem, black market, wouldn’t it possible and easier to fix the problem through workable economic policy which encourages investment, like trousim, foreign direct investment, bonds, exports etc.

            Berhe

          • Daniel

            Hi Berhe,
            Yes of course, eradicating human trafficking would be the main solution. But that alone may not be enough. In tandem it is also effective to have means of controling cash flow in to the hand of the smugglers. The less money is freely slashing around the harder it is for them to operate. P.s one purpose for change of currency was to ‘nautalise’ the vast quantity of cash that was stashed by the people smugglers and other criminals. And I believe it is been highly effective.

          • dawit

            Dear Ms Hayat,

            You wrote “Please, do not fantasize or fool yourselves believing that the Eritrean government can invent new ways of undercutting the laws of economic physics”.
            Surprise! They just invented and it is working! Prices of basic commodities are falling preventing hyper inflation, and criminals are prevented from pursuing ‘regime change’ agenda holding Eritrean economy as hostage. However such Macroeconomic policy is not unique to Eritrea.

            “After the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001, the United States Department of the Treasury initiated the Terrorist Finance Tracking Program (TFTP) to identify, track, and pursue terrorists – such as Al-Qaida – and their networks.

            https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/terrorist-illicit-finance/Terrorist-Finance-Tracking/Pages/tftp.aspx

          • Amanuel

            Daniel
            Too late for that they have already converted their cash in to property and hard currency, who are by the way affiliated to the PFDJ gangs.

          • dawit

            Amanuel,
            They say “better late than never”

        • tes

          Dear Daniel,

          One can not be a western economist when trying to analyze PFDJ economic system. No matter how you try to obey on what is happening and then give your perspective on what is sought to be the end result is nothing but a total havoc.

          PFDJ recent monetary system absolute control is nothing but halting the unstoppable corruption culture. But is this possible? Corruption is addiction. And an addicted leader has no way to be free again unless the circumstances that let the case be weeded-out. In this line PFDJ is the source of this corruption and has to be weeded-out. Then only we can have something to say.

          As for me, since I do not endorse any policies imposed by PFDJ, I do not discuss about them. My belief is, first and foremost the ideology of all-round failures, the PFDJ ideology, which is equivalent to the “Rule of the Jungle” must be removed.

          Therefore stop your haulage on the economic systems in connection to PFDJ if you genuinely wish good to happen for Eritrea.

          tes

          • Daniel

            Hi tes,
            when it comes to endorsing or reject a policy by which a State is governed, one is best served to employ cold logic and analysis.

  • Solomon Haile

    Selamat Wechigood, I had Selamat Mr. Magoo in mind…
    Sensational that it is what Saay does not pretend to tudor. I am still stuck on syllogism.
    Is that Haiku??
    tSAtSE