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The Agaiazians Have Testosterone Too!

A few days ago I stumbled on a new YouTube Phenomenon, The Agaiazian.tv, broadcast by an Eritrean named Tesfazion. Laden with the history of Tigray and Tigrinya, Tesfazion calls Eritrea a country needled out from the thin air, sewing the nine ethnic groups to create an artificial country by Vatican designers.

His main thesis is that a country cannot be needled out of separate ethnic groups. He believes the Eritrean state should be replaced by the Agazian Nation based on the dominant Tigrinya ethic group, with its dominant culture, language and leadership lording over the Agazians. To his credit, he believes in a democratic governance where the inalienable rights of the minorities are respected, allowed to prosper, where the rule of law is supreme to protect every citizen to blossom unimpeded. He cites Israel as a model country where Moslems live with dignity and peace, where they excel as citizens amid the Jewish culture and heritage. There is no successful country created by needling together multiple identities and if there was ever one, it is doomed to fail, he opines. There is no Habesha or Eritrean identity, the former is a derogatory term by the Arabs and the later an identity made up out of the cozy offices of Vatican.

He believes that EPLF was founded by Christians first and foremost to protect the heritage of Tigrinya, to rekindle the Agazians’ tarnished civilization. Neither Isaias Afwerki nor the rest of EPLF leadership inspired the freedom fighter to pay the untold sacrifices. He asserts that the Agazians in the organization did it single handily to reclaim the 3000-year-old heritage of their forefathers that was watered-down and corrupted by the invasion of Islam and then Amhara. He implores those who he calls the Agaizians in both Eritrea and Tigray to unite and establish the Agazian Nation of 8 million strong, where the rights of the ethnic groups are protected under its emblem, an ancient civilization with a track record of enshrined rule of law, he offers.

He is disturbed by the 400 million Muslims surrounding the region that they will once again conspire to destroy the “pristine” Agazian culture of 3000 years. That the Aksumite Civilization does not belong to backward Ethiopia, that the ELF was created by Arabs to destroy the Tigrinya heritage when ragtag Sudanese soldiers founded it for that purpose alone.  He calls for the Tigrayas to create settlements in Eritrea to usher in the ultimate creation of that ancient Agazian Nation, a beacon of civility amid the darkness that surrounds it. His fear of Islam is out of this planet and he lumps all Moslems as nut-bars who will one day kill all Christian Agazians. Buoyed by the Jeberti who abandoned their Agazian heritage in favor of the new found religion and PFDJ and IA are complicit as it servers their ultimate goal of creating the alien identity that encourages the encroachment of Islam. And one day when PFDJ succeeds in cementing the new identity, they will make sure no trace is left by forcing all Agazian girls to marry Moslems in the final push to make the ancient civilization unsalvageable.

There should not be a country called Eritrea or a province called Tigray, both are the same people and TPLF and EPLF are one movement that were created to serve as vanguards of the Agazian Nation of our forefathers.

Tesfazion, who has recently changed his first name from Eyob implores the Tigrinya speakers for disdaining their names and culture, like me he agonizes over the anguished desire to replace the cultural names to the point of obsession. Why are the singers singing about Rahela and Sabina, how about Mehret and Silas, he rhetorically asks in one of his broadcasts?  I believe this is bold stand and we ought to commend him on that. The rejuvenation of the culture that is on the brink of destruction and the call of its revival by becoming proud of it, is a noble idea.

Truth be told, I am also a fan of the word “Agaazi” since I discovered that it meant emancipation, in 1988, I opposed EPLF’s toying with the idea of replacing the Gieze Alphabet by Latin letters, which Tesfazion also profusely opposes almost in every broadcast.

In a nut shell he takes the YG argument a notch up and he is coherent and the ideas are not that crazy, with the following caveat.

What he gets so wrong is that, for better or worse the needled Eritrea is what we have and it is insane to undo it in an attempt to create the Agaizian Nation on the rubbles of the needled Eritrea and Tigray. The saner approach would be to establish a democratic country and if Tigray joins, the better and strengthen the Agazian culture under the new just society. All African counties did not grow organically as Germany and Italy and other European countries did. Toying with the “fake” nation is a recipe for more disaster. We had enough toying.

As the title of this piece indicates, in one of the broadcast he said that a TPLF or an PLF fighter would never rape, rape is the culture of the uncivilized Amhara and the Africans and Muslims, who have not yet transcended their clan based communities. His unbridled passion for the Agazian Nation took the better of him and that assertion is reminiscent of what the guys and gals at EPLF told us:  that Eritrean people are unique people. We are not unique, we are just people with our own share of murders, rapist and thieves. The Agazians men do have testosterone too. There is a reason why our grandfathers favored boys to girls, there is a reason that our mothers ululate only three times when a girl is born into them. And am sure Tesfazion knows that is because the Agazian Nation was not just after all, it picked-on families who had no boys to protect it. My friends loved the movie, “Milloni”, I hated it. It showcased how one strongman became an outlaw to torment a family who refused to give him the hand of their beloved daughter. That was an Agazian movie.

His dissection of who Isaias Afewrki is and his motivations and aspiration are right but all the brilliants stuff he says are drowned by his unrealistic settlement demands from Tigray to reclaim their long abandoned land, the rule of return of the Agaiazians and Islamophobia comments.

He went Trumpian on me when he said in yesterday’s video that the Agaiazian Nation will build fences to protect itself from the filth of Affar and Oromo surrounding it.

If Tesfazion can refine his message of the revival of what he calls the Agazian civilization to teach people to be proud of their heritage, shame them to relinquish the shallowness of considering their names, their heritage and history as backward, if he can strengthen his research on the founding of Eritrean revolution and how we have gotten the regime we deserve, he would be an intellectual to reckon with.

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  • Peace!

    Dear “real” Justice Seekers,

    It is very interesting to watch when those hypocrite TPLFites losing their minds when confronted with a very basic justice and human right questions: why don’t you oppose the ongoing injustice in Ethiopia? Isn’t injustice in Eritrea is also Injustice in Ethiopia? Whats the difference? NO answer:Blank Face or when forced, Go Personal.

    UPDATES:

    . Oromo and Amhara are now officially united against the brutal TPLF
    . Tigreans are vacating Oromia and Amhara region due to fear of backlash
    . Stay home protest in Gondor will officially end tomorrow, and Debre Marikos is expected to take the torch
    .Trucks carrying Tanks and heavy weapons are heading to Addid Ababa for the upcoming protest on Sunday
    . The west is under pressure to abandon TPLF or take full responsibility should the situation deteriorats further
    . Bahrdar is now under its own administration

    JUSTICE for Eritreans and Ethiopians!

    Peace!

    • Hayat Adem

      Peace craving for fire everywhere! Look how is in a hurry to give us the pic of the armageddon next door: Oromo and Amhara against Tigreans; Tigreans running away, Agazi soldiers on the trigger, Gondar to go on flames again tmrw, Debremarkos to pick the fire torch, Trucks , tanks, Sunday protest, WEst considering to dump TPLF, Bahrdar liberated and in defiance…fire, fire fire everywhere!!

      • Peace!

        Dearest Hayat (salutation is a must)

        Actually that was exactly my response when you call for invasion, but I digress.These are not mine rather facts on the ground I am just sharing. It is very unfortunate that that’s exactly what’s happening. not that I am happy, but I strongly believe the demise of TPLF is good for the country to stop the divisive ethnic politics that continues to eating the country like vicious termite. Now, it is not time to panic, but rather to quell and save the country.You are too smart not to know what’s coming despite obvious facts and symptoms, but instead you have chosen to side with TPLF, not with the people.

        Peace!

        • Hayat Adem

          Two things peace,
          1) Yes, are happy. I can see you craving and salivating.
          2) Your wishes are your wishes. Your wishes can not be facts.

          • Peace!

            Dearest Hayat,

            No reason to go back and forth. I already told you that your Tigrigna dominance vision is too dangerous and unsustainable.

            Peace!

    • Thomas D

      Hi Peace,
      Just remember this also pass for the ethiopians. Haters like yourself will eventually be exposed. You are celebrating for nothing. I always think you are an ethiopian. Knowing we had many “aba tor” left overs in our country we have to suspect some who spend lots of time talking about ethiopia rather than our nation. It is something for me think about. When all you see is nicknames, you got to becare & watch why people bebave the way they do.

      • Peace!

        Dearest Thomas,

        I don’t think the Ethiopians need your advise. They are way ahead of you and doing great. If you are Eritrean and a real justice seeker you should be talking about taking your frustration in the streets of Asmara and demand justice. Or, if you are Ethiopian then stand with the people. You can’t have both ways: I mean you can’t support Sebhat Nega and oppose Sebhat Efrem at the same time. ( Hayat are u paying attention)

        Peace!

        • Hayat Adem

          Peace,
          Peace to Thomas: “I don’t think the Ethiopians need your advice.”
          They don’t? Do they need yours, Peace?
          For comparison-
          Peace: Fire, fire, fire and more fire every where in Ethiopia.
          Thomas: Don’t celebrate fire; this also will pass for the Ethiopians.

          • Peace!

            Dearest Hayat,

            እዚ ሸንኮለል እንዶ ግደፈዮ። What I am saying is clear and simple that if you are for justice then stand with the oppressed otherwise you can’t be pro justice in Eritrea and support injustice in Ethiopia. That’s just a plain hypocrisy; I am sorry I can’t help! Or, If you have a convincing argument for that, I am more than happy to read and learn. Please help me out here…

            Speaking of fire, it is good that now you seem to feeling the danger of fire; in fact, that’s exactly why I and others rejected your ambitious proposal for TPLF to invade Eritrea.

            Peace!

          • Thomas D

            Hey Peace,

            When was the last time you said anything about the Eritrean people? We are telling you that it is non of our business to interfere in the Ethiopians business? The only think we can do is to wish them the best. I am very positive they will settle their problems democratically. The thing is there is no such upraising in the country you say you belong to, but you decided to turn your back when the debate is on Eritrea. It is so strange that you wanted to drag people to your line of thinking. You will never be able to divert just seekers’ attention that way. Our situation is worst that we need humans to support us. It is never luxury for us to pay attention to other matters when our house is burning and when our country is in real danger. Go ahead act like you always do talk about ethiopia and their problems, to you that is the most important thing. Good knows what you are trying to accomplish by that.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Hi Thomas,

            The Eritrean issue has never been his issue. Not at all. He shows up in the forum when Ethiopian issues are raised. Go to his disques account to track his history. That will help you to determine whether you need to engage him or not.

            Regards,
            Amanuel Hidrat

          • Thomas D

            Hi Amma,

            I really do not see him being different from the PFDJs’ because his completely doing what they like him to do. I am starting to think that dictator has hired spies/has volunteers to work on this forum. The real Eritreans have hard time sleeping while thinking of those
            a) innocent brothers and sisters are in the prisons of Era-Ero and the over 300 prison camps built by the criminals. The extreme heat and ill treatment by regime causing a horrifying deaths
            b) the forced labor/open ended military slavery causing mass migration and abnormal living
            c) The economic, social and political aspect of our country hitting the ground by the day. Don’t start me with talking about the capacity and moral of our defense force (I don’t if they are qualified to be called defenders of the people because so far they seem to defend only the regime).
            d) That the future of our country if kept under the current situation is BLEAK

            More and more can be said, but I am sure what I stated is a drop of in the ocean in comparison to what you know and you could have listed.

          • Peace!

            Selam Emma,

            Too bad you set the tone Emma. You defended the mass murderer Meles and the federal system for whatever reason. I am really sorry to break it down for you that the change you have in mind is dead. ነፈሲ ይምሓር።

            Peace!

          • Dear Peace,

            You are being ungrateful. The main reason TPLF is the black sheep in Ethiopian politics is because it stood on the side of EPLF on Eritrean independence, in land-locking Ethiopia, allowing eplf to exploit Ethiopia during the early 1990s, aborting a victorious war and forcing Ethiopia to apologize today in the world forum as if she is the aggressor, etc. Of course, what you said is also among the reasons, although I doubt you care. Why do you accuse TPLF so much? Is the reason deportation and economic loss, or do you see it as your patriotic obligation to fight TPLF, whom you see as the main enemy of eritrea, which it is not. Remember, Sebhat Nega is ready to fight on the side of eritrea any time. That is what he said. Why then all the attack? You are making them regret for all the things they have done for Eritrea.

          • Peace!

            Dear Horizon,
            Again, with all due respect, it is not about me being greatful or the opposite, but rather it is about issues that obviously taking both countries down to hell, and for that, I am blaming both PFDJ and TPLF: whatever favor, deal, or promise they made to each other at this point is less relevant: both are rejected by their own people, and both are playing blame games while people are dying.
            Let me try to address your genuine concern: it is a no-brainer that peace and economic integration between both countries is a “must”not an option if they set peace and prosperity as thier ultimate goal, and with that, the issue of claiming port ownership and worring of being land-locked would definitely be immaterial. I am sure most people know that; it just requires a positive attitude.
            Peace!

          • Thomas D

            Hi Amma,

            You have proven me wrong that peace is not the kind of person I should be engaging. Even though, the questions I put forward to him/above are very simple and I even lead him to answers. You just does not seem to answer them because if he did we would have at least he has concerns to our predicament as such it would employ that he is with our people. It turns out he is always comes here to talk with the Ethiopian brothers and engage them? In communicating with them, I suspect he is the point person for the dictator on Ethiopian issue and pursuing the G-7 agenda/ethiopian opposition agenda.

            About his disques account and archives of comments, he surely does not have self confidence on everything he does:

            a) Does not come with his real name
            b) His account is locked or it is private so we will not able to tracking his comments. That we have to go to each article he has commented on to track or gather his comments responds to each article.
            c) Somewhere in his writings, he indicated that he does not support the COIE and he even attacked the Geneva 23 demonstrators. However, I tried to look for that particular comment of his and I cannot find it now. I am sure he can go to his comments and delete that specific comment. Regardless, I would not even answer his stand on the COIE now?

            This guy is clearly the supporter of the unelected leaders who are destroying our country and abusing our people. It is very sad.

          • Peace!

            Selam Thomas,

            You are missing the point here: I am talking about Eritrean people in a sense that why we are failing miserably to help the people, and the reason is regrettably we just don’t have the same vision for the country in post DIA era. This is the problem in plain and simple language. Now, with that in mind, what do you like to hear from me about Eritrean people? ጸገም የለን ሰጋዕ ዝኣኽለካ ክዱርጉሓልካ እየ።

            Peace!

          • Thomas D

            Hey Peace,

            You said, “Now, with that in mind, what do you like to hear from me about Eritrean people?”. Really, Peace? I have to tell you about the status of Eritrean people and what they demanding from the regime who is depriving their very rights? If you are disconnected from the real world, I am sorry I cannot help you. I am just stunned because I did not know I will confront people of your kinds. It is sad, outrageous and despicable to say the least. I read somewhere in your comments you tried to belittle the over 10,000 just seekers demonstrating in support of the COIE in Geneva. Brother, do not dare to utter a word against such demonstration because the young people you saw there are fresh and you know better that they know your ins and outs.

          • Peace!

            Hi Thomas,

            I just told you where I am coming from and what I am interested on although you think that’s not about Eritrean people. I asked you what is it then: give me a narrative or issue that you think is a pressing issue. Sorry, it looks like you have nothing in mind except bashing and disrespecting people.

            You also said: “you tried to belittle the over 10,000 just seekers demonstrating in support of the COIE in Geneva” when and where did I try that? Be a man prove it!

            And plus keep in mind just because your bashing and whining machine is on 24/7 doesn’t make a real justice seeker, leave that to people with identity crisis:)

            Peace!

          • Thomas D

            Hey Peace,

            Ok, I will make it easy for you and ask you about the following:

            a) How do you describe the current Eritrea’s status? I mean leadership, standard of living, freedom of speech/expression/independent media or media sources other than Eri-TV/radio Demtsi heffash?
            b) Why do you think of the cause of arrest of the G-15 and the journalists in 2001
            c) Do you think the Eritrean people have freedom to work and earn money in private sectors?
            d) When the young people are forced to work for the government run jobs (within the military services, can you think of innovation in doing business when private sectors are discouraged? That do you think coupon based distribution of goods and services sustainable for the country? Would you think the government supplying good and services can satisfy the demands of Eritrean consumers? What do you think of free market (investment, small private business, communications with digital or otherwise)?
            e) Ok, you seem not to like the current government in Ethiopia. You seem to worry about who is going to cling to power after the demise of DIA regime, right? Here you sound contradicting yourself because you are for the regime change in Ethiopia and you are not sure of who is going to fill in the power vacuum.
            f) How do you see the relationship of Ethio-Eritrea if a new regime happens in Ethiopia? Do you think the new government in Ethiopia will be more cooperative than the current regime? If yes, why?
            g) Of course, it is up to the ethiopian people to choose their leaders if they wish to change the current leaders? As an Eritrean and from the current opposition groups in Eritrea, do you have someone whom you wish to see in power? If yes, who would that be?
            h) Why do you care so much about the Ethiopia’s politics? I am saying this in comparison to Eritrea’s politics? Many Eritrean people say it is not the Ethiopians who have arrested the G-15, the journalists, enforcing the national slavery/never ending military services, deprivation of freedom of speech/press and human rights violation with indefinite detentions of anyone who disagree with anything the governments doings, students to be separated from their parents at 11th grade and taken to saw and their faith being decided by the government and they are let to work by the government’s choices and etc.
            I) More will continue……

          • Peace!

            Hi Thomas,

            Good. I will answer all of them, but first, I am still waiting for evidence of your accusation. When and where did I try to belittle the 10,000 protesters? DEAL?

            Peace!

          • Thomas D

            Hi Peace,

            Unlike mine and others (The 3 Saleh’s, AH, HA, SA, BY and more…), you have blocked your disqus account or it is private. I am sure I have read you belittling and insulting the justice seekers and all opposition groups every time you get a chance, but I don’t have time to go to each article to search for your comments. If you are honest enough, I gave you a chance to answer you stand on COIE and all other you keep ignoring to provide us with answers. Again, you have your Disqus account private/blocked so we are unable to track all of your comments in your account. The irony is I don’t understand what you are scared of when are in so many ways supporting the criminals cleansing my people. Now, I knew you would not be honest to answer the questions given you above. It is clear to most all that you have no other agenda than supporting the dictator.

          • Peace!

            Hi Thomi,

            You said: “we are unable to track all of your comments in your account.”

            Now please help me out here: do you first accuse people and then,when you confronted for evidence, you go to their private account and track comments?

            Peace!

          • Thomas D

            Hi Peace,

            How hard is this for you to understand. There are so many articles that we write comments on. To find your comments, I have to scroll through all the comments NOT only one but many many articles. Like I said, why do you have your account locked? You are coming with a nickname. Moreover, you have to make the nickname account private to?? I just cannot understand you, Men!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Thomas,

            If they use pennames to comment, and block their disqus account when you need to pull their comments to show a prove, then you know why they are here. It should be clear by now to you. Do not waste your time with pennames, and only engage with real personalities.

            Regards

      • Thomas D

        Hi Peace,
        I think you are just against the weyane because they were for our referendum. That they facilitated eritrean liberaration. So, you hated them for those days & you are just seeking revenge. Abi is honest to say that he is an ethiopian unlike you. Just come out say your identity. It will not that bad just say it

    • Hi Peace and others,

      You people are demanding the head of TPLF on a platter for whatever reason you might have. You are acting as if you are sympathizing with the Ethiopian people, although what you want to see in reality is chaos and civil war. It is not going to happen.

      What ethiopians are demanding from the TPLF/EPRDF government is to change its ways and stand for democracy, good governance, against corruption, nepotism and the rest. These changes are possible without civil war and chaos.

      If push comes to shove, you do not know how TPLF may act. It might take with it your PFDJ. You might not know the ramifications of the Ethiopian crisis. You people better not rejoice yet, because you believe that this is the end of TPLF and that of Ethiopia. This situation could bring a change for the better for Ethiopia.

      I do not believe that TPLF will sacrifice itself, the people of Tigray and Ethiopia as a whole, for the sake of power. It has already been told by prominent former members of TPLF that its old modus operandi of domination and non-inclusiveness will take it no where.

      I am sure that the clouds over Ethiopia are pregnant with change for the better and not with a doomsday scenario as some people would like to see. Although their mouth is full of sweet words for the people of Ethiopia, I doubt about their heart. Their trackrecord tells us a different story. You know us, we know you and we know eachother. God save Ethiopia from those who speak of peace and justice, while they carry torches in their hands to set on fire the whole country.

      • Peace!

        Dearest Horizon,

        Can you just try to address the issue without making judgment on my motive? I told you many times things were not looking good and you better focus on cleaning your house instead of talking about how ASSAB is a contested port. Please don’t blame me!

        Peace!

      • Gecho Ze Great

        Dear Horizon,

        You give too much credit to TPLF. TPLF is nothing without the support of the Oromo and Amhara people. And if push comes to shove, I guarantee you that it wont take PFDJ down with it. When TPLF goes down, so does the policy of “No war, No peace”. It will usher us into a new chapter in the Ethio-Eritrea relations that is based on understanding and respect. This will put an end to the military conscription. The end of this program and end of the state of emergency will allow Eritrea to implement their constitution and get back on the track to democracy. Only good things can come out for Ethiopia and Eritrea from the riddance of TPLF.

        • Dear GZG,

          TPLF did not become whatever it became without its Amhara and Oromo enablers. If TPLF falls many will fall with it, and these forces would rather choose TPLF is tamed than fall with it.

          Politics is a dirty business. Crisis could easily be exported, whenever it serves the purpose. Undemocratic govs can create crisis between nations, and the toxic relations between the two people, thanks to both elites, is a fertile ground for this to happen. It does not take much to turn on the nationalistic feelings of both people. This is exactly what happened in 1998, although TPLF was hated by most ethiopians even more.

          I doubt if G7, OLF, etc will usher a new era of ethio-eritrean relations, because like TPLF they have their own agenda, the first to bring back the old system, may be with some sort of face lifting and the other to create an independent Oromia. Therefore, the PFDJ and Ethiopian forces hosted in eritrea are not the right ingredients for a mutual understanding and respect. Each one of them are working for their own selfish interests.

          Last time Peace had said one thing right, that both TPLF and PFDJ are the main problems of the region and future cooperation between the two countries is a must. Therefore, let’s not give too much credit to any one of the two.

          The way towards the future (my opinion) is to tame TPLF and democratize EPRDF in Ethiopia and bring a democratic government that stands for peace and cooperation in eritrea. By now ethiopians and Eritreans should have learnt that their mutual animosity, hostility and antagonism will destroy them, and in the future others could be masters of the region when they become extinct.

        • Peace!

          Selam Gecho Ze Great,

          Hmmm..first of all the fate of PFDJ is in the hands of Eritrean people; second, to think change in Ethiopia would some how wash PFDJ’s crimes is non sense. The argument here is rather given TPLF has ostensibly not been a reliable partner in the struggle against PFDJ, I believe its fall will help open a new chapter.

          Peace!

  • Hayat Adem

    The Respectable Mahmuday,
    What is your job again? Ah…Your job was done long ago, when you entered Asmara from Sahel. You have forced upon yourself an extended job to influence the Eritrean politics of the day in this 21 first century through the lens of the Ak-47.
    I never started anything with a predetermined motive of flashing out people. Never. Mahmuday officially told us that his number one job here is being successfully done. “My job is done.” And what is his job? It is not just one. They are many but he ordered them in priority and the one ion the top and number one is “1, to flash out hypocrites;”. Mahmuday thinks he is here to defend Eritrea and the Eritrean people just like the way he was doing it many years ago in Sahel. He thinks he has the last truth, and the last truth about what is good for Eritrea and Eritreans and he has to defend it the way he was trained to. It is totally a different motive from what many of us brought us here to Awate, which is to exchange ideas and learn and come back home with a better understanding. He is here to sell and protect what he has, and not to interact openly and buy better views that come his way in the process. That is, that is downright a propoganda campaign and battle ground modality. It is not compatible with the spirit this website which I beleive is created for fearlessly marketing and promoting ideas to all and from all. When one is here for a number one job of “fleshing out” what he thinks are hypocrites, the essence of his presence is totally predetermined and it is to only to brainwash supporters and and washout opponents. Purpose is predetermined, interactions are categorized and they always flow one way- the sahel sicily way: use your fire-words as many as your mouth can produce and embolden supporters and bulldoze “flesh out” the ones that are different. Ladies and gentlemen, that is clearly a Sahlean Model. Hold you trench and suffocate your fighters to fight their tooth and nail for you until the very last breath and send your firepower as much as your barrels can spit out to the enemy.
    I don’t believe Mahmuday is actively working with PFDJ right now, I don’t beleive he is playing for a pay, but it always amazes me how it is difficult to get out of the shadow of Sahel for those who passed through it. I blame Sahel in stead of him but it shows how a propoganda that had sunk in your formative ages is very difficult to have it deterged out. Mahmuday has come a long way from Sahel both in geography and relevance but look how much the sahel kitchen dirt are tattooed to his thinking and it sometimes makes one hopeless to believe in the notion of evolution. In that sense, maybe we don’t have to curse the crazy guys in Asmara. Maybe they are justified to be what they aren now. I mean how would you think Mahmuday to be different from them if he was there. I know i picked him to be a PM but I am also seeing I might be wrong. Would you think, Mahmuday would admit that his number one purpose of his presence at Awate is to smoke out others?
    Quote from him: “Regardless of what positions I assume when the same question applies to Eritrea, it should not affect your character. If you are truly for justice, you should lend your support to the people who are asking their government peacefully. My stances should not affect what position you take. Well, instead of telling me yes/no, you are repeating what Getachew Reda, the information minister, said.” End
    It never occurred to me his one particular position would affect me to go the other way. If it does, it can only come through persuasion and interaction. For example, my views on Eritrea are largely for freedom and rights. My views on Ethiopia are the same (with less emphasis). My views on the relationship of the two are for normalization, cooperation and integration. I never changed on those fundamental views. So, I never will be affected by anyone’s views unless those views are convincing me to accept a different reality. But I want myself and others whom I engage to be consistent on what we say on Eritrea on different times and on what we say on Ethiopia in different times and on what we say on same or similar issues on Eritrea and Ethiopia (emphasis on the former). For example, we can’t say something today and a different thing tomorrow whether it is about Ethiopia or Eritrea, unless we are dropping the first one and replacing it by another. Likewise, we can’t expect to go away without being challenged when we say one thing different about Eritrea and another thing about Ethiopia around the same or similar issue.
    Mahmuday appears with a strong feeling as if his heart is really flowing out to the victims in Ethiopia. And that is a good thing if it comes naturally. Okay, but if that person has not shown the same compassion about worse victims at home, wouldn’t you ask why? Once you asked that, wouldn’t that person explain why that was the case? But, Mahmuday says his feeling about the Ethiopian victims is so real regardless of what his feelings are to the victims at home. And he went further, it is irrelevant to ask him about that. How on earth is painful to an Eritrean who is needlessly nagging another Eritrean to sympathize with the Ethiopian victims and openly says he shouldn’t be asked by the same Eritrean if he granted the same sympathy to the many more Eritrean victims at the hands of the regime he created and continues to support and these
    Eritreans victim never dared to confront their government ? It so bizarre and paradoxical but it is possible in the sahlean sicilian world!!
    Mahmuday accuses me of repeating Getachew Redda. I quote from him: “Well, instead of telling me yes/no, you are repeating what Getachew Reda, the information minister, said.” What did Getachew say about the issue? I haven’t followed where and what he said but if we had said the same thing, that means Getachew is accepting the UN investigation and by extension the Ethiopian government is accepting the UN offer to investigate. Because what I said above to the very comment Mahmuday is responding to doesn’t oppose the idea of UN’ investigation into the Ethiopian violence. I said this: “Although, I would personally support openness and well meaning international bodies be allowed to see and report on this, the Ethiopian gov admits about the problem and they turned down the suggested approach and they said they would do the investigation themselves. I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt”
    Mahmuday became interested in the UN’s office so suddenly. While I said I support the coming of the UN to investigate, I just let the Ethiopians to investigate if they think they can do that. Because the Ethiopians have such organs like Human Right Counccil both in the government and a watchdog. Mahmuday wanted badly the UN to go in and he doesn’t like being asked to explain. That too was okay but he gets angry when we ask the same question that if he thought it was okay for him for the UN to come to Eritrea to investigate. And this UN to Eritrea was not a mere suggestion but based on a UN voted decision and an on issue that leads and has led to substantial consequences such as sanctions and charges of crimes against humanity.
    These were what Mahmuday said in the past about the UN visavis Eritrea, and it if fair to quote hm for his exact words; “They set the UN, its branches and other regional bodies, in a way they served their interest. The good thing is that we Eritreans know this better than many other nations. We have been at the receiving end of these skewed policies. We know this.” At another time, “The toothless UN would not even bother to investigate Durg’s war crimes let alone try to intervene.”. If it was toothless then is it toothy now? In another time, he said this:”Since the UN is an instrument of the powerful, it does what powerful nations and particularly the USA wants it to do.” Mahmuday at point clearly told us he supports IA on his stance when it cmes to rejecting the UN: “If his thrust is showing how our Ngusna has failed to seize up how the world (the despicable UN) operates, I would be with him”. That is how Mahmuday thinks when UN try to engage Eritrea. Mahmuday really believes UN is bad. He made that clear many times. He doesn’t want it near any part of Eritrea. That is his stand. I respect his stand but I have a slightly different opinion of the UN. Although I share with Mahmuday that UN advances many values and interests of the powerful, it also has dearest purposes and adherences for good humanity. And many of the interests of the powerful are not always inherently bad to others and can also be shared by others as good values and interests. But Mahmuday thinks UN’s illness is inherent and we differ on those levels. Yet he wants it to come to Ethiopia with incessant insistence.mWhy is a person who certainly thinks UN is bad for Eritrea wanting it to go to Ethiopia when the Ethiopian government turned down the suggestion? Mahmuday seems to be also on a hot campaign of admonishing those who don’t clearly support and fight with the Ethiopian government to let the UN in. Hia intonation sounds one that is raging with urgency.
    If you are confused about these seemingly contradictory stances, you are right but there is one logical explanation to them. That explanation has nothing to the claim of standing with Ethiopian victims because Eritrean victims would be closer to him than Ethiopians. But there is one explanation really. He thinks Eritrea is dragged and soiled by the UN, punished and humiliated, by the UN and in his mind he is asking one equalizing curse on Ethiopia. It is the same principle, Ethiopia is an enemy that needs to be punished. The sahel sicily model of zero sum, remember? You can be in the US but as much as you can stop being a sicilian, you can’t stop being a sahlean.
    My style of argument is usually addressing straight to what I am being challenged about. That is, if am asked about my age and the person who is asking that is thinking that is an important element of the discussion regardless of what I think about its relevance, I go ahead and answer that. I don’t ask other questions or challenge my opponent or discussant, unless I wanted him or her to clarify the question itself, before addressing that very question. If the issue is about a fact, I display my facts and lay it to rest. If it is a dispute or controversy about an opinion or view, I address by forwarding my opinion on what I am asked or challenged about. If I think, the other side has a better evidence and ground, I simply openly admit and embrace the new side and include it to my knowledge. If I think something in what is being said is unfair, first I give my answer per the question and then I move on to questioning or challenging the other side and answer for his gaps. So Mahmuday asked me questions, i tried to address them as much as I can and then pose questions and concerns of my own in his turf. I don’t simply put questions and concerns of my own ignoring his. There was none that I didn’t answer from his questions. Opinions are okay if supported by logic or facts. Other baseless or very tired allegations such as my being TPLF or unEritrean will be ignored as usual. When debates get tough, the weak will always resort to go for the low punch. That is the nature of the weak. if somebody is falling off high story, it is natural to try grab anything on the way down, even if it is a spider web. There never was a grace in a fall off.
    Cheers,
    Hayat

    • Nitricc

      Hayat; you are a very sick and desperate person: RIP Dedebit!

      • Hayat Adem

        Hi Nitricc,
        I am okay. I have a friend who participates in the discussion sometimes by proxy of me. he helps me a lot in shapping my understanding about our region. He has a positive spot in him for you. He thinks you are naive and too simplistic but positive. He thinks a person of your age and generation wouldn’t have been discussing these things unless you were good inside and trying to help your people back home. He compares you with the young people here who are very hooked to selfish interactions and celebrity chasing news. His name is AG. He has some questions for you. I put them for you below, in another thread. Gte back to him if you can.

  • Berhe Y

    Dear Abi and all,

    I think MS has already said it but I just watched the reply if the women 10,000 meters. What a performance by Almaz Ayana, it’s out of these world. In her first Olympic she smashed the world record set in 1993.

    If you still celebrating her win and that of Dibaba, third Olympic medal I don’t blame you,

    http://olympics.cbc.ca/schedules/related/discipline=AT/event=ATW100000/phase=ATW100100/videos.html

    Congratulations to the winners and all participants. There was this Eritrean looking / sounding name Ghebru running for Spain,

    Berhe

    • Yoty Topy

      Hi Berhe,
      May be I am imagining it but Tirunesh didn’t look excited about her compatriot’s victory.

  • Kim Hanna

    Selam Awatistas,
    .
    Over the years, I have read articles and more importantly comments that come from the GUT to understand positions folks take on various issues.
    I don’t remember my 1st comment but I remember the motivation. It was to respond and correct distortions that was being made against Ethiopia. At the same time I benefited and learned from differing points of views on many subjects. I have also noticed strong opinion makers and “leaders” if you will that come and go.
    .
    I have categorized Awatistas vis a vis Ethiopian issues in 5 groupings. A, B, C, D & F, They never move from A to F or F to A. These categories firmed up in my own mind over the years from the comments they made over extended period of time. Usually within their comments, particularly the unguarded snippets straight shots reveal their core.
    .
    Group A represent a category of Awatistas who wish well for Ethiopia in general and genuinely feel the pain and sorrow or share the joy and laughter with Ethiopians.
    .
    Group F represent those individuals like Ali Salim who yearn for the day that Ethiopia is disintegrated. He said so in a courageous and open way here at Awate.
    .
    The B, C, D folks are those in between informed and misinformed leaning and moving from one category to the other.
    .For the most part the B,C,D folks are the ones I interacted and dealt with. Some of them like Hope, Nitricc and dawit are a lost cause. They operate from pure emotional vapor.
    .
    The recent unrest in Oromo and Amhara regions of Ethiopia brings the best and the worst in some people. I get so perplexed when an Eritrean freedom fighter is incensed about the poor Amhara, for whom they had unlimited hatred a couple of decades ago. Their crafty attempts to say those they hated were the elite or the Shoa Amhara only…. bla bla…..I was there. Their misguided objective of today, of course, is elsewhere.
    .
    Mohamud Saleh, belongs in the F. category. He is brilliant. He is persuasive. However, from the vast majority of his posts I have extracted enough to convince myself that he has an evil heart towards Ethiopia. I trust Ali Salim, before I trust M.S because Ali Salim comes from the front and he does not use camouflage.
    His current statement of concern and hope for the people of Ethiopia is as phony as 3 dollar bill. It is a mere tool for him.
    .
    I am sure PIA and M.S come from the same source, it is just that PIA is not as smart and diplomatic as M.S, otherwise the heart is the same.
    .
    Mr. K.H

    • Nitricc

      Hey KM; the worst weakness of Ethiopians is, in my own judgment; you never identified your enemy from your friend. You always fall for the fake passion and trickery. This weakness of yours has exposed you to be victims of your own making for the last 25 years on your land, own your resources and own your human capital. no Eritrean is your enemy, no ex-EPLF fighter is your enemy; i wish you know what the TPLF thugs think of you and your people. if any we are trying to stand for you. It might be because our existence depended on for you living in peace and serenity. Make no mistake, with out one strong and peaceful Ethiopia there is no a viable Eritrea. we understand that and for that reason we stand with you. we stand with you because our collective destiny is tied together. the truth is there is no Ethiopia with the hard fight of Eritrea for one Ethiopia. the truth is the one who is 6% of your ethnic population who is bending you and shooting you to death is named Tigray people liberation front, not Ethiopian people liberation front. I know you won’t get.

    • Mahmud Saleh

      Selam KH
      Take it easy man. You want me to spend time explaining how Eritreans never held any contempt against the people of Ethiopia? You want me to explain how Eritreans trained, armed and fought along those “poor Amara “, you want to explain how Eritreans applied whatever leverage they had on your TPLF to keep the unity of Ethiopia…you want me to explain how Eritreans would let GO tens of thousands of “poor Amara” POWS…!!!??? Please don’t even go there KH. My friend, you are full of wayanay zeal but empty of facts. Please KH switch up to the side of the people. I understand, like me, you also care about a peaceful solution. Support the “poor Amara” people who are calling for peaceful settlement. That’s all they are calling for. Remember, this is the initial sentence I was criticized on: The government needs to make a genuine political solution. Police force is not going to create a lasting solution. Stop making Eritrea a boring scapegoat. Now, who finds these sentences unacceptable. Of course wayanay cadres.

      • Nitricc

        Mahmuday the great. Forget the weyane ashkoroch, the likes of KH. obviously thay have no respect for their people i.e. no expectation to have some respect for themselves. my question to is sir! many the welqyit regions carry Tigrigna names; for instance listen to this woman, she said she belongs to the place called ADI ReMetse; it sounds Tigrigna so, how are the not Tigryans?
        listen to her and you tell me…
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25VqbgDiu4k

        • Mahmud Saleh

          MarHaba Nitrickay
          I must say I’m not qualified to answer this question. And it does not concern me how they fix it. As a person who wants to see peace, I would hope the government take it seriously and solve it peacefully. You may quash incidents but that is not going to be a lasting solution. I think it’s the same argument the government is making. The government cut them off Gondor because they speak Tigrigna, it also cut of other districts from other adjacent regions (Kilils). The government explains that according to Ethiopian Ethnic Federalism Walqait should be incorporated to Tigray. To my knowledge and according to people I heard over radio interviews and watched in the internet, they speak perfect Tigrigna. The people’s argument is that although they speak Tigrigna, their blood line and cultural heritage belongs to the Amara region (Gondar). They petitioned peacefully according to the constitution. You know how they were treated.
          Latest development, according to ESAT: The government is planning to solve it militarily because it fears that if they allow Walqait to go back to Gondar, other districted that were incorporated into Tigray will follow suit. There is rumors that army units have been moved out of the Ethio-Eritrea border and are redeployed to the crisis zone. There is also anxiety among the top government officials that the army might develops cracks within its ranks.
          Source: Ethiopian outlets

        • Kim Hanna

          Selam Nitricc,
          .
          How can you ask M.S this question? I have to give him partial credit for his statement that he is not qualified to answer it.
          .
          Now, as you probably know there was never an affinity for the so called Amhara tribe or nationality on behalf of its members. There was Gojam, Gonder, Welo and Shoa that people more specifically identified with. I am Shoa, Abi is Gondere, you might be Gojame and somebody else is a Weloye. There were historical wars between them in their past. The common denominator is the language, of course. It was interesting to read from intellectuals like Prof. Mesfin who argued the point with Meles.
          .
          In any case the Amhara Killil,is a new “tribe” that was created by EPRDF, o.k TPLF/EPRDF if you like, by combining these regions. It appears that this new identity is taking hold.
          Now we are seeing that in areas along the new political lines folks are claiming to be Amharas, instead of Gonderes. This new reality has to be addressed by the people themselves within the constitution and law.
          You see Nitricc, this new realty is a complicated adjustments of our society. I don’t know enough about it, neither most of the Addis residents or the rest of Ethiopians. This problem and others like it have to be solved in a legal manner within the constitution. What we read on internet and youtube is not necessarily accurate. There is a lot of misinformation. Just so that you know.
          .
          Mr. K.H

          • Nitricc

            Hey KH: thanks for clarification. So, If TPLF believes in one Ethiopia; what is the importance including large lands in its map from Gonder and Wollo? I can understand why Eritrea and TPLF fight to death because of Badime; they are two different countries and there must be a clear and clean
            border. But this nonsense what TPLF is doing ….. I don’t get it. This Ethnic and Killil politics will get you in a lot of trouble. Why not declare on Ethiopia and get rid of all the problems. Well, I guess you
            like TPLF so you may not see the problem.

          • Hayat Adem

            Nitricc,
            Unlike me has a different opinion on you than mine. He cordially wants you to address the following points. He thinks you might have honest interest but your understanding is coming from a selective world.
            1) what if these places were in Tigray long earlier and it was Derg or Hailessilassie that incorporated them to Gondar? Or What if there were demographic changes that happened lately that prompted the change? Do you understand the present structuring in Ethiopia is about people (culture and language) than lands?
            2) What do you say to the big and strategic land (in terms of resources) that was given to Afar from Tigray (the Dallol area)?
            3) Many of the regions are crafted out of the many other regions (Afar from Wello and Tigray; Benshangul from Gojam and Keffa; many parts of Oromia were taken from Shewa), what do you say about those?

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Nitricc,
            .
            You are too young to remember.
            We did declare ONE ETHIOPIA . It did not work, there was a lot of blood shed and turmoil. We were exhausted and almost lost the country and end up like Somalia. By the grace of God, EPLF, TPLF and EPRDF folks saved the day.
            Fast forward to today, we are experimenting with the current system. Progress is being made, it is not perfect but the last 25 years is encouraging, wouldn’t you say?
            .
            My hope is the people and the leaders on site find their way to make the necessary adjustment and continue to make the progress. What is wrong hoping for that?
            .
            Mr. K.H

          • Nitricc

            Hey KH nothing is wrong to hope but hope is not a winning strategy. I don’t think you understood the absurdity of the TPLF government; you can tell people what their identity is! as long as they believe in their Ethiopian nationality the rest the government have no business telling people their identity. Never!

          • Hayat Adem

            Ah Nitricc,
            Why do you think you are in position to know those things and why do you the government is telling anyone to get one or the other identity? Look what you wrote above: hope is not a winning strategy. Why is it that hope is not a winning strategy? What is a winning strategy? Why do you think KH was telling you any strategy, winning or otherwise? How can you be that porous just in one sentence?
            The other is: I don’t think you understood the absurdity of TPLF. Do you? What is the absurdity of TPLF? Okay, what is even absurdity in this context? Did KH say anything about TPLF, absurdity or otherwise?
            Your other line is: You can tell people what their identity is as long as they beileive in their Ethiopian nationality. Who is telling who about an identity? To tell them to beleive in Ethiopian nationality is also to tell them an identity. Then why do you say the government should never tell them about their identities, and you put a hyperbole “never”? What is identity, after all? Do you know what you are talking about Nitricc? Why don’t you ask others ( for example KH) who know better instead of trying to teach them while you have enough to teach?

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Nitricc,
            .
            I think we are in the same neighborhood of ideas.
            .
            We both need to keep our eyes on the result. You could be right// I can be right. We are so far away in many respects from the events taking place. There is no way to fast forward into the future.
            .
            Mr. K.H

    • Berhe Y

      Dear K.H.

      You could have never been so wrong. I do not agree with MS on many issue but his concern and that of many Eritreans is real and genuine. I don’t know why some of you are up in arms for something so obvious, that there is a real problem that may get out of hand soon if it doesn’t get resolved soon.

      I saw in aljazeera just a couple of days ago, an interview with Ethiopian writer from Oromo named Hassuim something and he described the current ethnic tension as similar to that of Syria.

      That’s is a frightening thought but who could have guessed the problem in Syria after the Bashir government was in power with the support of Soviet and Russia and a few percent of the population with control of the whole country for over 60 years could blow up like that.

      http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/08/30-killed-ethiopia-protests-opposition-160808105428331.html

      Those of you who could not see the danger looming, you are barking at the wrong tree. You do not need to convince Eritreans that this is a work of Shaebia and IA, you are fooling yourselves. Even if he has something to do with it, it’s not like we can do anything about it.

      If TPLF want to trigger a war with Eritrea to divert attention, that’s a strategy but I don’t think it’s the smart strategy. It may delay things but will not solve the problem.

      Berhe

    • Semere Tesfai

      Selam Kim Hanna

      Mahmud Saleh is the heartbeat of Eritrea. Mohmud Saleh is an iconic figure in Eritrean politics. Personally, every time I read Mahmud Saleh, I feel proud to be Eritrean, I feel like he is saying words right out of mind. Mahmud Saleh is one of the few highly regarded Eritreans who could go to any Eritrean political gathering (pro or anti PFDJ) with his head held high and come-out with more respect than he ever had. Mahumus Saleh is a formidable bridge that connect Eritrean communities.

      I wish, hope and pray to see Mahmud Saleh one day to be the prime minister of the country (Eritrea) I love the most. That is how much I trust and admire him.

      To you and to your likes – if he is ” as phony as 3 dollar bill”, if he “surely come from the same source where PIA came”….. then HE IS EXACTLY WHERE HE OUGHT TO BE. And that’s why we love and admire him.

      You know kim – when the likes of Hayat are e-mailing you in private, when the Hayats, the Kim Hannas, the Amanuel Hidrats, the Semere Andoms, the Horizons, the Kaddises, the Thomads Ds…….. are praising you and seeing you as – a guiding-light, as a high tower, as the beacon of hope………… SOMETHING IS NOT RIGHT. Or as the Sudanese would say “Fetish RaEsek. So you know exactly where the heart of Eritreans is.

      Semere Tesfai
      .

      • Dear Semere T.,

        Personally i have no problem in whatever opinion you might have about ethiopians. Nevertheless, when you put in the same basket eritreans with ethiopians, and you accuse them because they have a different opinion from you on Eritrean politics, it shows that, as long as you are concerned, there is only one Eritrea, the Eritrea of the PFDJ/DIA and the hadi hizbi – hadi libi Eritreans. Any opinion to the opposite, or any different plan for Eritrea is un-Eritrean and should be condemned. Try to understand that ethiopians are ethiopians, and eritreans, however their view point may differ from yours, remain eritreans. Do not put them in the same category with ethiopians.

      • Mahmud Saleh

        Dear Semere Tesfai and Dear BerheY
        I’m grateful for your eloquent appraisal of the situation. Why do I (we) care about the situation in Ethiopia?
        1. We wish the people f Ethiopia peaceful coexistence and a prosperous future. We believe a united, peaceful (within itself and its neighbors) and prosperous Ethiopia is a gift for the region. As I have said it, Ethiopia has the potential that could lift the region out of poverty for its sheer size and resources. I understand that other countries could also contribute in their unique way. For instance, Eritrea’s strategic location for serving North and West Ethiopia, Eastern Sudan, and South Sudan…its natural resource (both in land and deep waters).
        2. We care about justice because we are justice fighters. Justice applies to all indiscriminately. You could not be a justice fighter for issues concerning Eritrea while you choose to ignore injustice being perpetuated against the people of a neighboring country, booing those who decide to discuss it.
        3. We specifically care about the situation in Ethiopia because: a/ It is the right thing to do (moral aspect); b/ The spill over effects could have a negative impact upon Eritreans
        (i) TPLF could launch unwarranted war that both brotherly peoples will suffer from and lead the direction into unpredictable future
        (ii) As explained above, even without an all-out war against us, an unrest in Ethiopia is not in our benefit.
        Some Ethiopians are reading our comments and respecting our right to discuss their affairs while few are fending us off as if they have not been discussing Eritrean issues (sometimes acting as if they have more right of a say in Eritrean politics than Eritreans themselves). I tell these few Ethiopian discussants, please show us your love for justice by discussing your own country’s current and urgent situation, because justice knows no boundary. If you cared so much for Eritrean justice, you should at least care a little bit for the justice seekers of your own country. I can see, the true color of some have already shown up.
        Brother Semere Tesfai, thanks for the humble disposition. Even the more prepared SAAY turned down that position. I ask God to help me get the boys out of the door into a world of their own. But Jokes aside, all Eritreans need is continuing the consultations and the dialogues. There is no way out of the situation holding Eritrean political entities other than talking it out. Individuals and groups who place the interest of Eritrea should try to reach out (including elements in the PFDJ who want to see the betterment of our nation). So, far the discussion has been on regime change and not on a meaningful and REAL CHANGE. That will start with a forward spirit of justice and reconciliation.
        Thanks again.

      • Kim Hanna

        Selam Semere Tesfai,
        .
        “….the same source where PIA came.”……”then HE IS EXACTLY WHERE HE OUGHT TO BE.”
        .
        I will leave that blaring and bold statement as is.
        .
        First, for the record, I did not receive nor send any e-mail to or from any Awatista.
        Second, my only and the only beef, I had with M.S is his warped core belief, just like PIA, that Eritrea’s well being depends on Ethiopia’s demise or turmoil. I think that is the sickness that has infected few Eritreans, no matter how hard they try to cover it up. You see some of them excited and shading those tears, at the slightest indication of trouble in Ethiopia. In this case the object of their tears are the Amharas, no less.
        .
        Your sentiment to have M.S as your Prime Minister of Eritrea in the future, does not surprise me. It would be interesting if Ali Salim endorses it.
        .
        The jury is still out on the long term well being of Ethiopia, so is on Eritrea. The sooner we find the synchronization of our well beings, in our hearts, the better.
        We have to stop acting on this foreign script written decades ago.
        .
        Peace out.
        .
        Mr. K.H

        • Semere Tesfai

          Selam KIm

          “My only and the only beef, I had with M.S is his warped core belief, just like PIA, that Eritrea’s well being depends on Ethiopia’s demise or turmoil.”

          – Because of time constraint, I don’t read every comment here at Awate. But to be fair to Mahmud Saleh and to the worldwide Awate readers, you’ve an obligation to put the date and the link. Otherwise that would be dishonest to say the least.

          “The sooner we find the synchronization of our well beings, in our hearts, the better. We have to stop acting on this foreign script written decades ago.”

          Here we go again!!!

          Where was the script written? Of course in Cairo. And what is that we need “to find the synchronization of our well being in our hearts soon”? The love of mamma Ethiopia!!

          Kim: Hear me out. That line of thinking is the problem that is blurring your vision.

          We are independent people. We made an independent decision. We have different interest. We will work with you ONLY, ONLY, ONLY……. if it serves our national interest. DEAL WITH IT!!!!!!

        • Mahmud Saleh

          Selam KH

          I think you need an interpreter to decipher Semere Tesfai’s thought. It appears you have a problem in understanding his statement that reads “[he] surely come from the same source where PIA came”….. then HE IS EXACTLY WHERE HE OUGHT TO BE.”

          IA came from Eritrea, Eritrean society and struggle produced the man we have come to know in the person of IA. He is not a foreigner. Semere is telling you so did MS came from the same source, i.e. ERITREA. The source of both is Eritrea, and hence, MS belongs there. He is right.

          The second point is this: whether you think of Eritrea as an imported scrip or idea, that’s inconsequential. You may think of ERITREA (fixate your attention the BOLD letters , and I promise you that you will get over all the imperial ills that have been conquering your mind). ERTREA, for all legal and practical purposes is gone; it doesn’t matter if you think of it as a foreign design or not.
          The third point: SemereT has already said it, but I would kindly ask you to support your allegation that “… M.S is his warped core belief, just like PIA, that Eritrea’s well being depends on Ethiopia’s demise or turmoil.” Go ahead KH, my disqus is open. Search it and let me know. The following might be a good beginning:
          “The government needs to make a genuine political solution. Police force is not going to create a lasting solution. Stop making Eritrea a boring scapegoat. Now, who finds these sentences unacceptable. Of course, wayanay cadres.”
          In case you wonder, they were sentences I wrote to you yesterday. Now the burden is on you. Either you will be known as a loose canon who shoots words faster than he could make sense of them, or provide the evidence. I will suggest you just brave it and say “I’m sorry”, or a simple “I made a mistake,” will do it.
          Regarding the PM issue, don’t worry Eritrea is not that desperate of leaders to be waiting for the diaspora. Eritrean leaders are there with the people. The real agents of change are there. We will be guest citizens. SemereT statement was merely out of respect. I have respected him, and again I respect him back.

        • tes

          Dear Kim Hanna,

          I think you are misunderstanding the hardliner’s Eritrean pro-PFDJites and x-EPLFites (especially those Cadres of EPLF) belief on Ethiopia. From my understanding, all these groups believe on a United Ethiopia.

          However there is a deep rooted believe that any wrong done over Eritrea will be equally rewarded by working hard to disintegrate Ethiopia. For this they believe that they have the The key of either Integrating or Disintegrating Ethioppia. For example, EPLF and EPLFites believe that working with TPLF was a vital step to integrate Ethiopia as a whole. All their history and political narration is centered on this narration. On this strong believe 1991 chapter was closed.

          Then came 1998 – border war. This is seen by PFDJ as a “Wrong Act Against Eritrea”. Hence they started to play their pulled the second KEY – Disintegrate Ethiopia by All means possible. All those Anti Ethiopian Government opposition forces were funded and hosted within this second key concept.

          I am saying two keys – one a key that integrates Ethiopia and second, the opposite.

          Here therefore understand first the mentality of the forces (Eritrean) mentioned above.

          Nevertheless all these tactics is purely a political game. It has nothing to do with Ethiopia as a nation. It is purely a REACTIONARY ACTION.

          Within perspective, be him DIA or MS, Semere Tesfai, etc, they do not have sympathy with whatsoever is for Ethiopia. It is related with Eritrean existentionialism.

          Ali Salim’s analysis was purely academic and very visionary. Most probably his prophetic interpretation and analysis has still a huge potential to happen. And what he said is outside the EPLF/PFDJ political discourses.

          Change therefore your conclusions. MS is palying the TWO KEYS game and has no any political sympathy with Ethiopian Unity. If he has then I am afraid, his move will be one sided. So far he seems fine with that but surely the symptoms* are there.

          tes

          *Religious

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam tes,
            .
            I think I see most of what you are saying. This phenomena is presented in so many different ways of pretensions.
            .
            The determining factor is who in Ethiopia will serve Eritrea’s perceived best interest. That is why terms like double crossed, betrayal etc. is used to denigrate TPLF. Perhaps, that was the original intent of both leaderships. Realty always straightens out the abnormalities of events over time.
            .
            What is nauseating to me is when some of these operatives pretend that they deeply care for the oppressed in Ethiopia. They point to being neighborly or human rights or justice which ever brings the most for the bang, while all along their motive entirely is evil and different.
            .
            If tomorrow an Egyptian high official expresses his sorrow, dismay and concern for the people Wolkayt, or even better for the oppressed Amharas and calls for the U.N to look into it, who among us is idiot enough to accept the sincerity of that operative. That is my point. We are not even at war with Egypt.
            .
            I think you know I don’t like Ali Salim. He prays for the demise of Ethiopia. However, we have to acknowledge that he comes in with honesty and straight forward logical argument for his position.
            .
            Mr. K.H

          • Thomas D

            Hi Kim Hanna,

            The sad think is some people act as if they are messengers of the Eritrean People. I would like to let the Ethiopians know that whatever is said on this forum is solely the opinion those commentaries. The truth is the Eritrean people have serious problems of their own that they need to focus. You guys can see this from the report of the COIE. We, the Eritreans, have been into this since 2001. It is so tragic for the eritreans that we cannot even find words to describe. The dictatorial and lawless regime controls everything that we are not even allowed to have meetings let along to go on streets to demonstrate. People like M. Saleh, Semere T, Hope, Peace, Nitricc and so on have made up their mind to ignore the facts. Their agenda is to transfer what is going in Eritrea to Ethoipian people. The goal is to find some kind of cover to the dictatorial regime in Eritrea by saying we don’t want to be like the Ethiopians. You know their excuses were Libya, Syria, Iraq and other failed states. So, they are trying to buy a free 5-10 years ticket to the regime who secretly support. It is not that difficult to figure out what they are into. So, my friends we have problems with these people. They don’t give a dime to the Eritrean peoples’ suffering. If I were you, I would never debate them. They see human right violations beyond scope of measurement in their country, they cannot even date to talk about it. How can these people work as firefighters in Ethiopia? It is strange and does not make sense at all! Please do not try to engage with criminals, END!

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Thomas D.,
            .
            I read your comment in earnest. Sometimes, I forget that there are Eritreans who care more about Eritreans judging from their posts. I was trying to respond to some of those commentators who are fanning every spark they see in Ethiopia for their own nefarious purposes.
            .
            I myself post my own observation from a distance with a limited clean information.
            I have to make sure that I narrow my comments to these individuals in order to avoid offending reasonable people like you. I hope I didn’t in the past.
            .
            Your advice is duly noted. I wish your nick name was SOLOMON, but Thomas is fine.
            .
            Thank you.
            .
            Mr. K.H

          • Thomas D

            Hi K.H.

            I see you are a reasonable person and I was concerned about flow of the debate. Some people are so evil they want to see other fail so as to make themselves feel good. When they debate, they address the failures of others so as to prove they are not the only losers. Every time you try to talk about internal issues, they quickly change the debate to externals. It is beyond stupidity for them not to comprehend that we can easily sense their diversion tactics. What a sham, they keep using this very old fashioned methodology everyday.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Hi Kim,

            Those Eritreans who are shading their tears for the Ethiopian people are those who do not care about the injustice in Eritrea. Do not take them as serious people who really care about the Ethiopian people. If they do not care about their own people how dare they could care about the Ethiopian issue? There is no logic and rationality to it. Don ‘t you think so?

            However, I hope the central government to heed the advice of the two Generals who set the motion for national conversation on the issue of grievances. If the military are well versed about the politics of governance, as I saw in these two generals, there will not be worries on how they will address the current grievances. The problem is only when the army becomes the army of the party. In the Ethiopian case, they have shown defending the Ethiopian people and its sovereignty which is the sole purpose of a standing army.

            Regards

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Amanuel Hidrat,
            .
            Thank you for your sober comment. You are a courageous man.
            .
            Please read what I posted in response to Thomas D. comment below. His persuasive statement has affected me.
            .
            I have hope as well in the leadership, beginning with PMHD. They are facing many growing pains and political adjustments that need to be addressed.
            If they are successful all of US in the region will benefit.
            .
            Mr. K.H

          • Nitricc

            Hey Aman-H; you are a very interesting person. so, do you care about the people of Ethiopia or all you care is about the people of Tigray and mainly the Weyane? which one is it, you know there is a difference.

          • Elenta

            Selam Amanuel,
            Do you think Ethiopian defense force is the army of EPRDF?

          • Dear tes,

            If we ask, which are the forces that possibly stand for the disintegration of Ethiopia, we come with the following answers: OLF, ONLF,TPLF (who have expressed their wish on different occasions) and the different foreign governments of the region. The latter would try themselves or use proxies within and outside the country. Who are the ethiopians who work for this fragmentation of the country? It is none other than the elites of these ethnic groups who want their own enclaves they can lord upon and exploit without any competition. Take the ordinary citizen of any ethnic group; they are tolerant, peace-loving and happy to live together.

            The hate for Amharas in the past and now for Tigrayans is so great that it has blinded the elites. These elites have no idea where they are taking the people and they do not care, because most of them work from safe places for themselves and their families. None of these ethnic states, even the bigger Oromia are viable by themselves.

            What then is wrong with the different elites which has made them unable to see that the hate they have for eachother has become the hate for the country, Ethiopia? It is ignorance and arrogance, the two diseases our elites suffer from.

      • Hope

        I second you,Sir!

    • Hope

      Selam Kim:

      If I were you,I would NOT have posted this post as you completely and publically exposed yourself.

      I cannot say it better than Sem Tesfay,a Vet, who might,at one point, was shooting at Mahmud Salih (vice versa)during the ugly Eri Civil war from1980-83.,even though Mahmud might have been with a Cultural Troupe-even though he was eligible to be assigned in the Fronts9prob 17018 at that time as he was about 15 -16 in 19

      “Mahmud Saleh is the heartbeat of Eritrea. Mohmud Saleh is an iconic figure in Eritrean politics. Personally, every time I read Mahmud Saleh, I feel proud to be Eritrean, I feel like he is saying words right out of mind. Mahmud Saleh is one of the few highly regarded Eritreans who could go to any Eritrean political gathering (pro or anti PFDJ) with his head held high and come-out with more respect than he ever had. Mahumud Saleh is a formidable bridge that connect Eritrean communities.

      I wish, hope and pray to see Mahmud Saleh one day to be the prime minister of the country (Eritrea) I love the most. That is how much I trust and admire him.”.
      Abi might, most likely, will “eat you up alive” if he keeps his honesty.
      One more question:
      Would be so kind to give us a similar list of Ethiopian Awatista with a similar grading about their attitude towards Eritrea and Eritreans?
      I bet some one will give you,T Kifle and Abi an F on that…
      Here is the ONLY and the ONLY reason as to why you and Hayat are barking like a crazy(“Rabid”) dog is that coz you fully know who Mahmud salih is,as vet Semere tesfay eloquently said it.
      I remember that Prof Salih AA Younis was a similar target in 1998-2000 and even now….for his staunch and Fierce Eritrean Patriotism…

      • Hayat Adem

        Hope,
        You refresh your pride when you read Mahmuday? Please be proud whenever you solve problems, any problem that makes things better. I am sure that is your way of telling us to know how much you respect Mahmuday. Me too. But pride is a self thing. You contributed nothing for Mahmuday’s greatness. So you are not entitled to be proud by extension of his greatness. I will tell why I’m disgusted by such an expression everywhere I see it and hear it: proud to be Ethiopian, proud to be Eritrean and even American. I actually think some of the predicament of Eritrea are contributed via such empty adjectives. Did you take part in the olympics brought us any medals? If yes, be proud. Did you do any thing to solve the poverty and backwardness of Eritrea and help us advance in any small way? If yes, be proud. Are you helping your family in any small/big way for them to be better in any small/big way? Be proud. Are you raising children and building them in a healthy that they become problem solvers in the future? If yes, be proud. Otherwise, shut up!

  • Nitricc

    Hi All, do you know what the significant event on this day in Ethiopian history? Yes, it all started this day the end of TPLF; August 12, 2015 at Gininchi. It is amazing what a year can do. last year at this time; Abay Tshaye was barging how TPLF will take care the “stupid Oromo” Lik Ensagebachewalen” Yregetalu”
    Today TPLF is busy going church after church begging for the religion leaders to ask the Gonderian Neftegna to stop their demonstration. Amazing how a year can change everything. When TPLF went to break the spinal cord of Eritreans; the idea was to send stern message to the rest of Ethiopians to better behave or else look what we did to Shebia. Now, what will be in August 12, 2017? Your prediction please!
    One thing I will suggest is for the Tigryan elites; time for you to stand against the killing of Ethiopians. You must! If not, this woman is trying to tell you.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4D4gwSY0r4

    • Hayat Adem

      Dear Friends (This is for your weekend):
      Nitricc, you are in a much hurry to celebrate the Ginchi anniversary. Ginchi was not last year today. It happened on November 2015, not August 2015. You are pulling it months back. Something is not right in you. Your brain wires are overheated. Watch out for your health. And the best to start from would be from your crazy love to PIA, which I will walk you though in a moment. But your cultish love for him has been so obvious and visible. I will be quoting from you and I invite awatistas to join me on board for the roller-coaster ride about Nitricc. My conclusion will be that Nitricc will commit suicide right after PIA dies. And the “long live PIA” we are hearing more frequently form Nitiricc points to a self-preservation concern.

      When too much criticism were being advanced on PIA because of the exodus and the repression and rampant violence such as the one shooting and killings of the Eritrean youth in the, Nitricc defended PIA by advising Eritreans to excuse him because of his age and think of age: “I don’t care what people in their late life do. i don’t care what PIA does, for god sake, he is a 70 years old man. all i care is how can I cure this nation?”

      But for Ethiopians, his advice was different, not to overlook but to obey whatever this crazy 70 year old doddering man tells them to the word or else face the consequences. He had to say this to that effect: “For the Ethiopians all they had to do is exit Eritrean land and obay what ever PIA tells them J. That is all what is left to do.”

      At one point, Nitricc was hopeing for something positive and acted as the bearer of hope and positive news. All he thought was for PIA to do something positive so that he could brag and multiply them and glorify them, and take immense pride by telling the world from the top of the Mount Everest as loudly as he ccould. he said,” Hi All: Eritrea is entering new era!!! Implementing New Civil panel code! Drafting new constitution! PIA Getting out of the public view for extended period of time! Printing new currency! Issuing new ID card! Add to whatever you want to the list and you get two things. Reform on the way and power transferring in process!” These all was predicted to happen when Eritrea was approaching to celebrate its 25th anniversary. But again, PIA, true to his color, remained mean to his people and his supporters. He didn’t give them a drop of what they hoped for. Just more of the same. Life goes on, Nitricc’s unconditional support continue as well regardless of what he does or doesn’t do. PIA need not to adjust. Nitricc had to adjust.

      At one point, Nitricc promoted a bizarre wish of reconciling SGJ and PIA. Well, if that has to happen, obviously that means SGJ will have to bend and fill up the nai Taesa wereqet (the b4 form) because the world has to go to PIA on its knees not the other way round. If PIA doesn’t like going to the mountain, the mountain has always to go to the PIA. He was even trying to encourage SGJ to honor the motto of his website and go the the length to reach out fro PIA. Mind you, Nitricc wouldn’t dare to say the same thing to PIA. This is what Nitricc said: “Hi LT; that will be the true reconciliation day; the day SJ and PIA sit down and talk. It could happen. If you can’t talk with a person you disagree then how is it possible for reconciliation? Which the motto of this web site.”

      And Saay was being advised at one point to be consistent about his comments on PIA. Nitricc wants people either to call PIA a dictator and leave him alone to live and lead like a dictator or call him a saint and then ask him to be accountable to live and lead like one. Nitricc doesn’t want mixing of those two descriptions. Nitricc was not only challenging Saay not to expect PIA to be accountable if he wanted to describe him as a dictator. He also wanted Saay to at least recognize one quality of PIA: “Hey SAAY true but if we agree that PIA is a dictator, then we are agreeing that he is not accountable. Don’t you think? I admit he is not accountable; to be accountable is to answer to some one but the point is the honesty part, to the point of telling you have to go the moon to find multi party.”

      It is truly amazing how far Nitricc can go to defend anything of PIA, I mean anything, even his hair cut style: “Hi Ayneta; If you were observant; PIA’s hair cut should have told you his health conditions. Dying or ill people don’t cut their hair.” Nitricc’s defnition of good starts from PIA. And the rest of the world is judged depending how close or far it is finds itself from PIA’s standards.

      Dictatorship is virtue, in the world of Nitricc. Only it has to be PIA’s dictatorship, not any other type. All those that would be accounted for the most shameful politics are to be cheered. Nitricc has told as countless times about the mentality of African leaders are toothless and corrupt and power hungry that they want to lead their people and seat in power for life. They refuse or rig elections. They don’t allow freedom and plurality. If such things are raised against PIA and PIA refuses to see the validity of such political demands, then it is not a problem. It is a unique political virtue from which Nitricc takes immense pride and promotes it with head high: “Hi All I don’t know what all this is about but; PIA is an honest dictator. PIA was asked when he will give up power and he said never! PIA was asked when election will be held in Eritrea, he said after 30-40 years. PIA was asked if there will be other parties besides PFDJ, he said may be in the moon.”

      In a rare case, Nitriccc acknowledges one thing in the PIA system. PIA allows corruption. But that is not a problem because that is coming from a system PIA leads. PIA allows rampant embezzlement. That is okay, too, because it is done by none other than PIA. But Nitricc wants you to understand the fact that if you come an inch closer to PIA’s power, he would snuff you out, and there shouldn’t be complaints about it as you should not have dared to do that in the first place. Go and smuggle people, rape girls, enslave and torture like the current Generals and you will be safe, but if you question his power like the G-15, it is entirely your fault. I am not saying this: Nitricc is.
      BEGIN
      “Hahahah Brhan; … PIA will look the other way while the act of corruption is committed. PIA will let you to be corrupt and embezzle right and left, then, then try to disobey or challenge his supremacy; then he will get you for good. I was digging in to the case of G-15 and I notice; when General Eqube tried to advice PIA, PIA took it as if the General was disobeying and PIA threaten the General with corruption while the General was serving as a head of Nakfa corporation. Not that General Eqube was corrupted; but it shows the methods PIA uses to protect his power.”
      END

      Nitricc is sooo funny. But we should not blame him for all that. There are some who are misguiding him as if he makes any sense. He should have been treated like a sick person with convergent personality disorder. There is something called a histrionic personality disorder defined by a pattern of excessive attention-seeking emotions with inappropriately seductive behavior and an excessive need for approval. It would be more appropriate if we put singular as a qualifier to point out that Nitiricc’s obsession for approval comes from one person and everything else is to adjust towards that. For example, you see Nitricc struggling to find a positive way of describing PIA in relation to the corrupt system he has created in his government. Nitricc says: “In any case, PIA is the creator of this situation. If it makes sense he is not corrupted but a corrupter.”

      For many of us, there is no question or debate that PIA is a bad leader. He is in fact, a hard-core criminal. But if someone thinks PIA is good and innocent, all things go to the evidences and accounts that list dwon his deeds and the justifications around them. I know there are some well-meaning Eritreans who still give PIA the benefit of the doubt. There are also others who may support him not because they think he is doing good for the country and people he is in charge of but because they hate Ethiopia and Weyane and that they see no better person to lead that hate agenda than him. But Nitricc is not one of those. He is a league of his own. If his last 5 nightmarish dreams were analyzed, PIA would be the lead actor in all of them.

      If Eritreans can’t, God will fire this man soon and he is not going to come back like Jesus. At least, I think Nitricc thinks enough to understand this much. But, Nitricc might think, if PIA dies, dying is the right thing to do. I see him contemplating “if PIA is no longer breathing, then this world must have been too bad to live in for his loyal supporters like me. If he goes I go. Is it dying by bullet or poison PIA would have liked me to die of? How can I know what he would have approved? Let me give it one more night for any revelation for the right way to go. PIA wouldn’t mind if I take one more night just to do it right to his like.” God forbid, I don’t want Nitricc to die while I can’t say the same about his role model. So, in a way, the repeated wish from Nitricc in the “long live PIA” has a motive of self-preservation. Long live PIA translates to long live Nitircc.

      • Berhe Y

        Hi Hayat,

        Do you really take him that seriesly? Ten years ago he said and admitted that he had never been to Eritrea. I was away for a while and when I come back may be a year or so ago, if he has made it to Eritrea. He didn’t bother to respond. I had reached a conclusion that he hasn’t.

        Now think about, for all the PIA this, PIA that you would think he would visit the country by now.

        I really don’t know for sure what his limitation might be, but I suspect he has been to addis at least 3 or 4 times in the time period.

        What can you make of such individual?

        Berhe

        • Hayat Adem

          Yes Berhe,
          I don’t take him that serious per say. I don’t even know if is together himself but I was trying to give a soft issue to smile at regarding what piles of nonsense he was posting here. Yes, I tend to agree with your assertion that he has been to Addis many times and never been to Eritrea. In his comments, there are pointers in that direction.

        • Nitricc

          Ato Berhe; my question is what is to you if I visited the moon? Let alone your dirtiest city on earth, Addis? What is to you? By the way, don’t you have more to worry about and to take things seriously? Like your kids? You have reviled three things on this forum and the most that bothered me is what you have said about your kids that made me question your ethics and your personality. I wouldn’t go that path in exposing you disreputability but please don’t worry about me and care for your kids. Since you live in the country “next to heaven, Canada, it shouldn’t be that hard, is it? clean your house before you worry about others.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Nitricc,

            Why haven’t you visited Eritrea? Are you deflecting the question for the heaven that you make it out to be under your “PIA”.

            I type for few minutes here and few minutes there…when I get a break from what ever that I do…does it mean that I don’t have time for my kids…don’t worry my kids are taken care of, they are lucky they are born in the best country on earth, where there is no limit how far they can go if they have the drive and passion for it.

            Enjoy your weekend, some beautiful Olympic races to watch, with my kids off course:)

            Berhe

          • Nitricc

            Berhe, you said it not me. I am telling what you reviled. Trust me I don’t give a flying hoot. all I am saying is worry about your family instead of making up stories about other people. Why do you care what and where I visited? why? what is to you?

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Niticc,

            Don’t worry you can say it what I said about my family or what revieled.

            Off course there’s nothing, other than I may have indicated that I have children. But you are trying to change the topic and you want to put me in defense. Go ahead repeat what ever I said.

            No I don’t care where you go or where you have been. I only brought it up because you condone the miserly that Eritean youth going through and I asked you to visit and see yourself of it helps open your heart, just like why you cry day and night about Ethiopian people “misery”.

            Berhe

          • Nitricc

            Berhe, do you know how uninformed and irresponsible you are? you keep saying you live in heaven and you get for free everything. what you don’t is you are encouraging the Eritrean youth to flee and contributing for the Eritrean youth death and misery to drown in high see. when ever you barge about living in heaven; there is a young men or women who reads your garbage and a complete bullishit and will do anything to get to the nonexistence heaven you keep painting. when I call you slow and unformed; you don’t even know the consequence of your corrupted and misleading lies. you are very irresponsible person and you have the nerve to talk about the misery of the Eritrean youth. you are number one in contributing to the Eritrean youth misery; just you know. I don’t have to go to Eritrea to understand the problems of the Eritrean people. i am human and i can think for myself. you keep saying i am changing the subject. no, i am just telling don’t make up stories, mind you own business and none of your business where i go and visit. can you understand, please!

      • Mahmud Saleh

        Dearest Hayat

        Gen-Nit is a tactician. He is not a philosopher, like the friend of yours who said that life and death never meet- one is in, and the other out, paraphrasing you. Here is the thing. Philosophers, while looking for the big picture or the grand explanation, miss small things. Death is the knowledge that death is coming. It’s a cognitive feature that humans only possess. Most people never care about the actual death. And since no body will tell us what it actually feels, no one bothers about it. But the idea that death is lurking around 24/7 continuously makes people plan for it.

        Back to our discussion: Good leaders know that the death of their regime would soon or later come. Therefore, they lay foundation for their vision, a vision that could stand on its out by the embrace of the people. A constitution is a fine print of that vision. Once accepted and embraced by the people, and once the citizens contribute in bolstering it through their legal and civic institutions, political leaders have little to worry about their legacy, and the legacy of their administration. General Tsadkan puts it in clear language that the ruling party has committed many mistakes, including the exclusion of OLF, and the failure of erecting genuine democratic institutions and institutions that oversee state institutions. Unless a genuine political solution is found, he predicts the current situation resulting in several scenarios. The grimmest ones are an all-out civil war (although a distant possibility), and the continuation of the current political climate where the people will keep protesting and the state will spend time and resources on containing them, which he sees could not be sustainable. Therefore, he seems to be hinting that the actual death of a ruling party is sudden, most rulers* die thinking their will outmaneuver their nemesis, planning for the next day battle. That’s what happened with HS and MHM. The thing is simple: if you know you are sick with a bad pneumonia, go to the doctor. There is a cure for it. If not you are gambling with your life. You may not feel death itself, but thinking about it, you are dying everyday. To avoid this agony, cure it. There is a cure in store for it. Now, for the ideologues and goons of TPLF, instead of blaming poor Eritrea for all their greedy adventures, they have to go to the public and the political opposition, and buy the medicine (the trust of the people). They may live for another year. This is a cool and intelligent conversation I chose it specifically for you, your highness.

        http://goo.gl/ps8Cr1
        * The same message has been sent to bxaay IA.
        N.B: I’m watching women’s race in the Olympics.

        • Hayat Adem

          Haha Mahmuday,
          You can’t possibly copy IA. You are gambling with that. How else are thinking you would be my PM. IA has to go and he should never be part of any of our talks.

          I can’t be sure but I don’t believe TPLF* blames Eritrea for many of the fundamental issues they have. If that was the case, they would have acted to snuff out the IA regime. Unlike you, I do believe they have the capacity and the means should they come to that decision.

          The reason we hear TPLF mentioning Eritrea is because there is IA and his messengers doing things. He thinks his main job is to undo Ethiopia rather than to do Eritrea. He does things that never fit a small country’s vision and future. You have to speak into this danger more often.

          Eritrea is not supposed to compete for influence leadership with Ethiopia. Ethiopia is not Eritrea’s enemy, God forbid. If Ethiopia was to be defined as our enemy, it is nightmare. Eritrea’s independence is not an option a with such a mind-set. Anyone who wants to see Eritrea rising and flourishing must accept Ethiopia as a partner, not just in the usual tone of good neighborliness but as a must condition that needs to be there. That means it is not something we would welcome it but something that we will to work hard to make sure that is there and nurtured. That also means, rejecting and fighting all other conditions that are in disagreement to this grand reality.

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Ahlen Hayat
            Congratulations Ethiopians and Africans. የ ኢትዮጳያ ኣልማዝ ኣያና has broken WR in her first ever Olympic Marathon. It was a spectacular race. I hope abi is feels compensated for the swimmer’s embarrassing result. I do to feel “Ethiopian” for this moment. Hey abi, we can share the buna, and athletes. OK, back to you dear Hayat:
            I’m afraid the mention of Eritrea, IA…knocks you off balance. You have replied, may be, to 1/10 of the GRAND HATETA of bxaay Mahmuday which focused on የ ሃገራችን ወቅታዊ ሁነታና ለመረጋጋቱ የሚደረገው ጥረት። I expect an expounded answer (don’t worry, if you are busy, this w/end is my last one for me).
            On war and capabilities:
            1. Our talk should be about peace. And peace starts from within. I think each country needs to solve its own problem. That’s what the citizens and the world at large should do. The prevention of war is less costly than its management.
            2. As you know I don’t support proxy wars. I criticized my country on hosting Ethiopian armed factions. I do the same with the Ethiopian government. Political and moral support is different.
            3. You are fond of Ethiopian might. Hayat, most gullible aggressors are so intoxicated with the size of their army and the size of their country/economy…they fall into this all-time fallacy that effectiveness and victory are proportional to size. Eritreans have their own calculations. Ethiopia may win a battle or battles but it could not win the war. Because once Ethiopia crosses the border, it is no more a war between Ethiopia and PFDJ. Eritreans will fight back using symmetrical and asymmetrical tactics. Eritreans are in their land fighting for their land, while Ethiopians know they are dying in a foreign land. Well you know what that means. Ethiopia is not able to quash Somali ragtag militias, the Ogadien, OLF…THINK STRATEGICALLY. In the process, Ethiopia will end up cracking its ethnic faults wide open, and may cause it to implode. The second point you miss is that, this is not 1988 where the whole of Ethiopia erupted in unison. Today, Ethiopians know that it is their own government that they are fighting; they know that it’s their own government that walked away from a peace settlement it had signed to honor. Well, they are saying the enemy is TPLF, not Eritrea. Believe me, no one, except the knuckle heads, will rally to go to war against Eritrea when the enemy is in their backyards. Third point: If God forbid, the toothless PM is pushed around by the army, which is controlled by Tigreans, while Ethiopia fights in Eritrea the same “anti peace and anti democracy” forces that the government declares threat will find a space inside Ethiopia. And you know what that means. By the time the TPLF lead army returns bleeding from Eritrea, those “anti peace and anti democracy forces” will have liberated Ethiopia from TPLF. Of course, it may seem dramatization, but it is possible. I think it’s worth chiming on.

          • Hayat Adem

            Dear Mahmuday,
            1) Yes. That was what I was talking about. I think the Ethiopians are looking for peace but without partner. Ethiopians are restrained by choice, IA is restrained by capacity. That is the difference. Had IA had what the Ethiopians had, he would cross the border the next minute. That is why he is trying through different proxies. You are right. and the reason why Ethiopians want peace is because it want be easy to win a war with Eritrea especially inside Eritrea and there will be uncertainties aftermath.
            2) I don’t how I can try to reformat you: in all senses of capacities (peace, diplomacy, economy, war etc), Ethiopia has superiority. That doesn’t mean Ethiopia doesn’t have weakest links that can be exploited by Eritrea. What it means is, at the end of the day (in case of war for example) it is hard for Eritrea to win or to sustain it. That will mean choosing to live befriended to an all time imminent danger, which one day will turn against you, which afterwards you will be forced to play your true size. That will come at a price. You can do it now for free, in fact for a gain. I am saying: Ethiopia is not an enemy or a competitor. Remove your Sahel lens. Stop seeing things from a military options and possibilities. Stop comparing Eritrea to Djibouti and Somalia and feel proud that it can hold or fend off Ethiopia for a longer while. There is no need to consider Ethiopia in zero-sum way. There is alsways a win-win solution in even competitive interests like Ethiopia and Egypt have, like Israel and Palestine. Ethiopian interest and Eritrean interests are not even competitive but complementary, which means there is a win-win-win solutions. Stop marveling at the faultlines of Ethiopia and count them as if they areas of opportunities. A chaotic Ethiopia will never provide jobs for Eritreans, opportunities for Eritrean investers, will never lease your ports, will never help you when you have to face other hostilities.
            3) No doubt Ethiopia is mighty in all sense compared to Eritrea but I see its mightiness on the kind of economic and market opportunities that it can create for all of us rather than its military might. The difference is again in our perspectives. You see, your subconscious mind is taking you to Sahel and how you held your ground there bleeding the enemy for years emerging victorius at last. What you don’t or couldn’t understand is how many young Eritreans you were holding in the fox holes for years; how many disabilities you produced; how much opportunity costs you incurred; what kind of alternative you have created through the Sahel model. On the Ethiopian side too, as much or more damage was received. Combine them both and you will see how much was lost. Add to that the animosity and bad legacy you guys let us inherit from all that. That is called a loe-lose-lose model, the Sahel model. The Sahel model has brought one thing that it said it would- independence for all that price. Now what more! leave the Eritrean youth, free them from the Sahel syndrome. Ethiopians have move a lot forward. they don’t remember the Sahel wars. They remember a little of the Badime war but they have moved a lot. They are now discussing and quarelling over citizens’ rights and freedoms. Minus the violence and the killings, that is so healthy.
            4) Change your lens. It is 21 century. And Ethiopia is an opportunity not an enemy. You can help me a lot on building positive and partnering attitudes among Eritreans. Your Sahel now is the Horn. Your tools are not Ak-47 but the 3T: trade, talent and technology. In the 1960-1970s, we were leading and advanced by many of the Ethiopian standards. Because of the Sahel engagement, were slowed down and came even with Addis Ababa and few places in Ethiopia.From 2000 onwards, we are tailing behind than many of the regions. We are not even at par with Tigray alone. We’ll be losing more and more as you are bragging and talking down at Djbouti and Somalia.

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Dear Hayat:

            1. Your highness, I call upon you to call what you termed as Sahel syndrome by its true name: Zeraf syndrome. I was trying to help you understand that effectiveness and victories are not necessarily proportional to size. Shall I cite examples? Nah, you know them. Think strategically. I have already said war needs to be prevented. I brought all those scenarios to help you understand that the best people like you and me could do is not to brag about size and capabilities. You said ” If that was the case [if the Ethiopian regime believed Eritrea was behind the uprisings], they would have acted to snuff out the IA regime. Unlike you, I do believe they have the capacity and the means should they come to that decision.” Good. That’s what you think Hayat if you are in an emotional state of mind. It is easy to resort to the readily available way that could alleviate your stress, something you have been conditioned to, which is Ethiopia is mighty. There is no question that Ethiopia is mighty. What you don’t get is that: a/ Ethiopians know when to rally around their governments (when they see imminent danger against their sovereignty); b/ they know when to ignore it (when their government tries to make Eritrea a scapegoat). Today, Ethiopians are not rallying against Eritrea, they are rallying against Wayane (that’s how Ethiopians are calling the government). They are saying our enemy is wayane (also something Gen.Tsadkan discussed). Therefore, I’m suggesting you drop out the boring excuses the ruling front is making that Eritrea is instigating the problem. Don’t threaten a country because you believe Ethiopia has a choice of waging a war against Eritrea. Ethiopia is mighty only in defending itself. No one in his/her right sense could miss that. I know that. But an aggressor is an aggressor. This attitude did not help Napoleon, The Great Empires, Americans, and now Ethiopia in calming down a ragtag militia in Somalia, I’m afraid Hayat you are seeing everything through the lens of an aggressor. I have no doubt you are a great person with great ideas. To be honest, every time I debate with you, I come out with something that places me on the PLUS side. Seldom do we say “goodbye” to each other agreeing on everything. But there are things I learn from the respectful disagreements we do. The bottom line is that the nature of internal dynamics inside the aggressing and the defending nations change once a conflicts erupts. Please understand that I was laying out scenarios to have you understand that there is a price tag that any aggressor must weigh before setting their feet on another country.
            Regarding peace and cooperation and the concept of interdependence: First peace and reconciliation are needed.
            a/ both nations to have peace within themselves
            b/ all international obligations to be settled, including the conclusion of the border
            c/ An atmosphere of mutual respect must take place
            d/then everything will be honey and butter (Arn Tesmn)
            I’m afraid you try to sidestep these prerequisites, and explain things as if Eritrea should accept Ethiopian demands. In that case Eritrea will remain Eritrea. And that means, Eritrea will have to keep widening its orbit of relations until Ethiopian rulers understand that Eritreans can live without them. That’s when they will come to their senses.
            I have utmost respect for the people and nation of Ethiopia. But I keep being disgusted by the rulers and elite of Ethiopia. May both people be bestowed with wisdom.

          • Hayat Adem

            Selam Mahmuday,
            The respect is mutual. Decency is a must. learning is always shared. Thanks for the cool of yourself and for not being born in the person of Nitricc. What would I do if you were born like him?
            1) if Ethiopians were threatened by the meddling capacity of the IA regime, they could snuff him out. Even if he was to give them a hard fight, they would opt to do that. The reason why they are not doing that is either his role in all these is not more than from irritant/minimal to zero. So, I was supporting your argument that they must have thought the problem was mainly from inside, even if there are some mild hands fueling it up that are not big enough reasons to go to war. Please don’t misread the demonstrations. You have heard Abi saying: if Eritrea tries anything we go to war, it will be a different story. I think it was the same reasoning that encouraged IA to wage war on Ethiopia in 1998. You are repeating the same thing. I could hear Ethiopians reasoning the same thing: Eritrean army is weakened, fighting moral is down, the army is defecting (50000 to Ethiopia). I really want you to say this: THERE IS NO NEED OR CAPACITY TO COMPETE WITH ETHIOPIA. THERE IS A NEED AND CAPACITY TO ONLY COMPLEMENT.
            2) you said “I’m afraid you try to sidestep these prerequisites, and explain things as if Eritrea should accept Ethiopian demands”. What are the Ethiopian demands you fear to accommodate at this time? Give me all the main ones that are a must ones that you would say Eritrea should prefer zero relationship than considering to accommodate; itemize them in the order of priority and importance.

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Dear Hayat
            You want me to say”THERE IS NO NEED OR CAPACITY TO COMPETE WITH ETHIOPIA. THERE IS A NEED AND CAPACITY TO ONLY COMPLEMENT.”

            What do you mean buy that? Let me know before I decide to accept it or decline saying it. I hope you don’t mean that nations’ size makes them to be the dominant bully of the hood. In a rogue world, and in rogue minds, this may be true. You are way intelligent to mean it. If you mean competing for interests, I would just say you are wrong. There is international laws designed to prevent big nations from intimidating small ones; from terrorizing the hood. The next point is that competitions do not automatically result in conflicts. Eritrea and Ethiopia could have different areas of interests, where their interests overlap, they can negotiate them peacefully. That’s what governments all over the world do. For this to happen, the imperial attitudes need to be changed. I repeat the following:
            Regarding peace and cooperation and the concept of interdependence: First peace and reconciliation are needed.
            a/ both nations to have peace within themselves
            b/ all international obligations to be settled, including the conclusion of the border
            c/ An atmosphere of mutual respect must take place
            d/then everything will be honey and butter (me’Arn Tesmn)

            The other point:

            Let me direct your attention to this video; what do you hear? I hear mobilization of the Tigrean people instead of searching for a political solution. I remember these during the eighties when TPLF was running rallies against the Durg. My friend, this is dangerous. You were asking me yesterday when I said the government should not pitch against each other. This is a typical rally organized by Tigray administration.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdiS9-I-V-k

          • Hayat Adem

            Hi Mahmuday,
            What I want to say is clear. There is no need or capacity to to compete with Ethiopia. There is only a need and a condition to complement each other. Look, I need to shoot straight on this. Anyone or any nation would do anything in self defense, in its true essence. So definitely, I am not calling us to surrender. That is not the point and you know it. This is obvious, capacity or no capacity, self-defense remains inherent and commonsense. Please don’t argue on the obvious. For the sake of your Sahlean ego, lets say Eritrea has the might match Ethiopia meeting force with force. Even though, there is no need to compete with Ethiopia for show of force. Ethiopia is perfect for other kinds of relationships and cooperation. The militarization and aggressive posturing is not necessary, nor winnable. Partnership and cooperation is necessary and winnable. The Sahel mindset is one of a loser, outdated and cancerous.
            On the items, you listed…they are all okay to me if they are advanced as talking interests. But they shouldn’t be pushed as preconditions. For example, “peace inside” is a relative thing and it deepens with so many things going well. We can’t wait without relationship until peace inside is achieved. And in some ways, the peace inside is also affected by the peaceful/hostile relations of the two countries and all these proxy provocations. So peace inside is fine but not something that can be tabled as a one time package and totally independent of the influence of negative or positive relationship that exists between the two.
            on (b), yah that is also a position well known but that too is okay but must not be tabled as a precondition. Effort neeeds to be put to solve them one way or the other but borders are constant and fixed characters that they can be dealt at any given time. Many borders are decided and determined as nationalities. Even some territories are put on hold and postponed for some time to be solved. They should not dictate the many societal and cultural dynamics and potentials. So, cooperation should not be held until border are fixed. Cooperation itself may have a role in solving also border issues. i don’t see the rational of letting the entire relationship and cooperation falling hostage because of border issue. If Eritrea wants the border to be solved, it should talk to the Ethiopians. There is no other way. While the talks are going, the relationship and normalization can start right away. I don’t think the Ethiopians in a matter of hurrying or bullying. Just talk, put your issue affront, listen to what they have to say. take it from there, start the relationship from from the issues that are disputable. Take your time on the ones that are. (c) mutual respect is necessary. But the Ethiopians never short-change us on that. To be honest, we short-chnged them this time. We were tired of collecting the golden egg one at a time, and we wanted them all at once and killed the hen. Milking the 90 million cows is what we had in mind and heart (where is Ted?). So mutual respect is good and must start from cutting inflated egos and be a true and honest partner free of parasitical attitude and cured from the “we shocked you in Sahel, we can shook you again” attitude. Thanks you

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Hey Haya
            Very nice “talking” with you. We can exchange the Sahelian ego with “Zeraf ego” and we will be fine. Remember, we were not the ones who were pushing war, we did not prefer to hanker in Sahel, although Sahel is our land. It was the other side who was trying to push us to those ragged mountains. So, my friend, the Sahel years were not of our choice, they were imposed on us. Now, I can tell you, I’m 100% rehabilitated and all I want to see is the two peoples crossing borders without check points. And (this is for abi) if possible milking the 90 million cows, although our milk boy, Ted the great, is still not back from Asmara. May be he is the one that is fanning the unrest in Gonder, or was it Aqaqi? At any rate, I enjoyed the conversation.

          • Dear M.S.,

            In 1998 DIA/PFDJ started the war of aggression believing that ethiopians hated TPLF and they would not fight, and they will turn against it. It was a big mistake. Ethiopians fought as never before; and the effects of the war are still felt by Eritrea. It is unbelievable that you still see things the same way as then. Ethiopians might have problem with TPLF, but do not forget that they do not have the same sentiment towards Eritrea as they had in the 60s,70s,80s, (when they used to say that it was a war between brothers). You will be surprised to find that they will choose again Tigrayans over Eritreans. Therefore, do not be so sure that with Eritrea involved in the crisis, ethiopians will stand against the people of Tigray.

            Your military strategy remains the same with that of the 30 years war. Who said that it will be a protracted war? On the contrary, it will be short and punitive, lasting some major battles. Ethiopia has no strategic reasons to fight a protracted war and find herself in a quagmire.

            Therefore, we should not entertain war between the two countries even in our wildest dreams, for the next war will be more catastrophic than any war fought in the past, and we better not be so sure who will be with whom.

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Selam Horizon
            Sometimes we need to put a leash on our egos. I’m not saying Ethiopians would not stand up for THEIR country, but here is the thing: TPLF is not going to convince Ethiopians that an aggression of their neighbor is right. Today, the understanding of both peoples is much better than in 1988. Today, it would be for Ethiopia a naked aggression, but in 1988, Ethiopians and the world understood is as defensive. Again, all my intention is to highlight that the prevention of war is paramount. My friend focus inside. That’s what I have been trying to say. Focus for domestic political solution. No one was so surer than Mengustu in 1978 when he started his massive invasion. Well, he caused destruction, but at the end he flew for his life leaving behind mayhem. Now, the elite and well connected, people who have no worry to fight the war may entertain their ego, but at the end the poor will pay the price. So, my friend all I’m saying is that
            1. Look inward for the solution, don’t blame every hiccup on Eritrea.
            2. We know Ethiopia is huge, we knew that 50 years ago. That does not terrorize Eritreans. If any war comes, it will be a war of aggression launched by TPLF-led Ethiopia in order to deflect internal pressure. It’s not going to work this time. For Eritrea it will be an imposed-upon war. It has no choice but to defend itself. That’s all I’m saying. Why do I say that? Because the people who are challenging TPLF in Oromia and Amara region are united against their own government, not against Eritrea. I’m just repeating what’s playing out my friend.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Hayat,

            With all due respect, in the current internal Ethiopian issue, Eritrea, Egypt, IA, Birhanu Nega, G7 and others have little or no significance.

            It’s a matter of priority..what’s the priority in the current internal crisis, where the US, HRW, UN are calling for calm, peaceful resolution, and investigation.

            If there was an army, or opposition groups which is sneaking in from Eritrea which is causing havoc then, by all means the focus would be there. Even if Eritrea, Egypt or Birhanu want their influence is almost none.

            Having internet access, even if the government managed to close of social media is making it difficult to control the organization of these sophisticated organizers…there are many who support such activity from abroad, like the citizens lab in Toronto and others who are able to mask / proxy the communication where it will be very difficult for the authorities to control communications (as it happened in Egypt and other places). So the Ethiopian authorities have to make a decision, either to shut down the internet (and face the negative consequences, with funders, FDI and attracting investors) and the negative consequences or they have to face the continued pressure, before even the students in AA join in.

            The world has changed for good, it’s better they focus in solving the internal problems..trying to make the problem external diminishes the real issue.

            Berhe

          • Thomas D

            Hi Berhe,

            I politely disagree because it is like saying we the oppositions living in foreign countries do not have any influence in our own people. If I cannot influence my friends and families about what the kinds of services they should expect from their government and them telling what is missing, then there is something missing. So, you are rejecting the influence of Birhanu nega and all ethopian oppositions supported by the unelected regime in our Eritrea. Trust me, those ethiopian oppositions operating from Eritrea with their masks on are doing their business in Gonder and other oromo regions. Please remember the power of Eritrea gebar/civilians operating from the heart of the enemy. That is to say the “fedain” and all activities that was going on. Just think about this and respond.

          • Hayat Adem

            Berhe,
            Okay, then what is the real internal issue causing people to lose their life and kill police men, damge public property? One of the following?
            1) Welkayt
            2) Governance
            3) Tigrean domination and equality
            4) Democracy

          • Mahmud Saleh

            dearest Hayat

            Not one of the following, it is all of the following
            1) Welkayt
            2) Governance
            3) Tigrean domination and equality
            4) Democracy
            PLUS
            5. An economy that has resulted in producing small well connected middle class; looting of Ethiopian resource by the ruling group (win, wink)
            6. An aggressive investment that resulted in the land-grabing of defense-less poor tribes by wealthy ARABs.
            7. The space program that we don’t hear about nowadays (where has the rocket gone?).
            To be continued but I guess these are enough.
            ***********************************************************
            -The UN and EU want to send observers. Wayane said, “No, no, we are graduate democrats, thanks.”
            -Human watch is to ask the presidential contenders on how their administrations is going to handle the human right situation in selected countries. Ethiopia is singled out as a country of concern on human right.
            -Ethiopian opposition party and the demonstrators are calling for peaceful settlements, but rallies organized by the TPLF are preparing for a fight. It’s amazing. TPLF becomes democratic when it addresses Amharic speaking communities, but turns out rogue and violent when it convenes Tigreans and speaks in Tigrigna.

          • Hayat Adem

            Wolkayt can never be a problem, let alone an urgent one. Governance, yes. Tigrean domination? That is funny. If you had a friend called AG, you wouldn’t say that. AG thinks if there are people that have every reason to look for alternative, it is the Tigreans. According to AG, Tigreans are not even being equally treated let alone to dominate and benefit from the system. Tigreans lost the entire potash salt locs like shekhet and Dallul to Afar. AG says Tigreans are the most oppressed compared to other Ethiopians. AG says TPLF/EPRDF looks like more of PFDJ than anything else as you go north-bound. At the border area, there is nothing that makes them different. He has so many believable examples but I will post them if you want to read them (on-demand). Democracy, yes. Ethiopian economy is okay at the macro level. yes, it could have been better but Ethiopia generally is praised for pursuing pro poor and inclusive growth, and they are reducing poverty from 40% to now 23%. It is one of the fastest growing world economies in the world. Many countries envy that achievement. So, this can’t be an urgent issue. Space program? what about it? Haven’t heard about it really. You must be joking to bring it here as an Ethiopian’s priority list. How many Arab investors does Ethiopia have to cause a problem? Maybe you wanted Chinese (Made had a joke on this).
            ———
            You are concerned about Ethiopia refusing EU and UN to investigate. But you were supporting when the Eritrean regime did it. So you seem to go cahoots with the Ethiopian opposition for saying this and that. The Eritrean opposition parties always call for peace and inclusion, your HDIA says they should go to the moon. Is that amazing too. Finally my favorite line of yours is the last one: “TPLF becomes democratic when it addresses Amharic speaking communities, but turns out rogue and violent when it convenes Tigreans and speaks in Tigrigna.” This is similar to what AG has explained to me in details. Do you now retract what you said above that: “Tigreans dominate and benefit more”.
            ———-
            You know what I think, I think you are completely in disarray when it come to analyzing the Ethiopian situation. Usually, your arguments about Eritrea are consistent. Some of them are consistently wrong but at least they can be traced to some kind of principle. Your argument about Ethiopia is not. it is not principled doesn’t mean it has no purpose though. I think Berhe is wrong when he said you are positive about Ethiopia. I can decipher this fact so easily: you think Ethiopia shouldn’t bully Eritrea. You think Ethiopia is now bullying Eritrea. You think there has to be mutual respect to start any relationship. you think Ethiopia is viewing Eritrea as a junior right now. You think Ethiopia must settle the border according to agreed treaties and international laws. You think Ethiopia is not respecting those laws and refusing to settle the border in accordance. SO YOU THINK ETHIOPIA MUST BE WEAKENED BY DOMESTIC VIOLENCES SO THAT IT COMES TO PFDJ TERMS AND REMAINS AT BAR WIT ERITREA IN EVERY SENSE, AND NOT AN INCH HIGHER. And you think this kind of disturbances will contribute to Ethiopia’s weakness where it will always be an Ethiopia weak enough always to be taken down by PFDJ at will. That is sickness my friend, and that is what you are up to. No one says without risking to be irrational and insane that Ethiopia should allow UN and EU to investigate, BUT that Eritrea is right by rejecting them because it endangers Eritrean national interest. No Eritrean would be justified to support Ethiopian opposition forces that have very questionable views on Eritrea’s independence and ridicules day in and out Eritrean opposition forces and movements and dismisses activists.

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Selam Hayat
            1. “Wolkayt can never be a problem let alone an urgent one.” …”

            Note: It’s already a problem and hundreds are killed because of it. The cause is TPLF’s divide and rule policy. What other priorities would you produce at this hour your highness?
            2. “Tigrean domination? That is funny”

            Note: Really Hayat? I will repeat an advice that I gave you the last time we discussed the necessity of obtaining information. Either you are a diehard TPLF’s cadre, or short of information. You could be Eritrean, and at the same time, a TPLF diehard cadre/blind admirer. In case it is a matter of scarcity of information about Ethiopia, or a biased-reference problem that makes you end up noting of selected sources allied with TPLF, I again call upon you to check cross-sectional Ethiopian opinions and you will soon find that TPLF has dominated Ethiopian politics; TPLF cadres have monopolized areas of national guidance/planning (all sectors), security, top administrative posts and the ranks of the army; are rumored to have been looting Ethiopia through giving preferential treatment of Tigreans… The chatter says that, mass media (written, audio, video, social networks…) says that, Ethiopian who have come from or visited the country say that; international reports say that…Come on, we should not debate on this point.
            3. “If you had a friend called AG, you wouldn’t say that. AG thinks if there are people that have every reason to look for alternative, it is the Tigreans. According to AG, Tigreans are not even being equally treated let alone to dominate and benefit from the system”
            Note: AG has never been a friend to Eritrea or Eritrean struggle/EPLF. He is among those who slapped the hand that raised him. Dear Hayat, the sickest mind set is the following: “AG says TPLF/EPRDF looks like more of PFDJ than anything else as you go north-bound. At the border area, there is nothing that makes them different.”

            As you know, Tigray is governed by one organization called TPLF. You would expect random pockets with administrative problems throughout Tigray. Since Tigray is governed by one same TPLF the likelihood that you would find a patter of backwardness as you approach Eritrea should have been something you should have questioned. Because he is plainly telling you that areas that contains Eritrean blood could not progress. You would not expect TPLF to be less democratic in Adigrat (near Eritrea) than in Kola Tembien (far south). But he is playing into his sick mind. I would, however, expect rationally-minded people to scrutinize his hate towards Eritreans.
            4. Regarding your answer on the calls of international bodies to be let in to observe Ethiopian regime’s abuse of human rights: You are losing your rationality. Why would you jump to Eritrea and to me? Could not you just answer that? Is it right that you ignore that because you sense I ignore it too when it comes Eritrea? For the info: I never objected international bodies entering Eritrea, NEVER. I actually supported EU’s engagement with Eritrea and pressed that EU use that leverage to improve Eritrea’s human right situation; to make sure its fund is directed to projects that provide hope for our youth to stay in their country (because unlike many who entertain “surgical” solution), I consider Eritrean use are the agents of change. As we speak UN is there. I have no problem if the rapporteur gets into Eritrea. Now, will you go back and comment on your comment, please.
            5. I will pass the economy because it’s a matter of how you assess it. GDP rate tells you very little; it does not tell you the opportunity cost of erecting glistening high-rises in Addis and Meqele; it does not tell you the amassing of wealth by well connected few cronies…it does not tell you the waste of resources and opportunities through corruption; it does not tell you the mismatch of priorities; it does not tell you the erosion of the environment and the cost-benefit analysis of displacing native peoples. Growth rates don’t tell who is benefiting from the so called double digit growth. For your information: The ruling party admitted most portions of its statistics were doctored. It did the audit when people pressed they did not see the benefit of the so much celebrated double digit growth.
            5. Hayat be NICE. Don’t you ever try to trip on convoluted wayanay report. I’m still the same person who believes the border issue should be solved peacefully; I’m the same person who believes it’s the elite otherwise both peoples would have solved that problem. I’m still the same person who believes united and peaceful Ethiopia is good for Eritrea; I’m the same person who wants to see a border without check points, I’m the same person who believes in mutual respect, and who opposes hegemony and imperial ambitions, etc. Now, if you have any concrete evidence contrary to that bring it on. Get this Hayat: Eritrea actually saved the union of Ethiopia. OK, get it please. Up to 1988, after Durg withdrew from Tigray, your hero Asrat Gebru and his ilk were mulling what to do next. Many of the top TPLF cadres who are now lecturing us on how deep in their heart they are Ethiopians, were in fact refusing to proceed deep into Ethiopia. It was the great EPLF that advised TPLF march into Ethiopia. This is history OK. Even TPLF itself does not deny it. Also for history, made it clear that the ethnic based federation the TPLF had in mind was dangerous.
            But let’s make it clear: TPLF would have to divide Ethiopia into chunks of its size and set it in a way the regions compete against each other rather than uniting against the 6% minority that monopolized all spheres of life in Ethiopia. So, my friend it’s the TPLF which downsized Ethiopia into chunks, it’s not Mahmud. No body knows Mahmud. What I say here has no consequential effects on Ethiopian politics. You know TPLF really hates EPLF/SHABIA, that’s because EPLF did not accept TPLF’s programs and tendencies of secession. Now, who is anti Ethiopian unity dearest Hayat?

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CILtNYHNVwo

          • Hayat Adem

            Dear Mahmuday,
            Your arguments are deteriorating at any latest comment. For example, there are many things you said that neither true nor relevant. I will list examples for your benefit.
            1) “we helped them to become what they are.” Remember what TKFLE said here. The help was both ways. Recently, one Awataista sent me a scanned book called Gahdi. The book is poorly written but it kind of carries a lot of valuable raw data and facts.
            2) “we advised them to advance their forces to center.” This can be very funny for those of us who are informed TPLF’s presence in the Amara region was not after 1988 but 8 years before that and TPLF had a friend called EPDM which it helped founded 7 years earlier. It also sounds as if this was borrowed from Wuchu’s book. AG told me many PFDJ EPLF propogandists say many lies these days believing Ethiopians do not know enough about TPLF and they think they can fill in with their own lies. AG countered Mahmuday saying it took 15yrs for TPLF to remove Derg from Tigray while it took them 2 weeks to get rid of it from Gojam and Gondar, and only tow years from Ethiopia. So Tigray was harder.
            3) “TPLF hate EPLF because EPLF advised it to be Ethiopian”. AG laughs at such claims. The truth is PFDJ hates Ethiopia but they want Ethiopians to hate TPLF for that.
            Now to the others that are relevant: why would wolkyte be an urgent national issue. Wolkyte can either be alone, inside Tigray or Amhara. Now, it is in Tigray. If that is a problem it is small issue, and it is very local and it is not urgent. But above all, it can be adressed with in the federal or regional constitution. I exactly know why you want it to be a crisis issue and an urgent and national one but it is not.
            Ethiopian economy is characterized as fast growing, diverse based and pro poor. It is not just GDP, my friend. I put a number there, poverty has declined significantly. But you are also right, more is needed especially in job creation and in reducing under employment in the rural.
            You rejected COIE, you rejected SEMG, you supported HDIA on Kicking out UN. Now what?
            Why don’t you admit to the fact that your only interest is one thing: you think Ethiopia is a life time enemy of Eritrea and you are seeing an opportunity to weaken it. If that was not the case you wouldn’t always invoke that Ethiopia is divided now and can’t fight us; that Eritrea is not Somalia and Djibouti ; that there are multiple social faultless of Ethiopia that Eritrea can exploit etc. Whether you know it or not, that is what we get from your comments. The all time lashing you do on our oppositions and activists and the sudden interest of standing for theEthiopi@an oppositions; the all time stand of rejecting UN request to see things in Eritrea and the sudden support of UN to investigate Ethiopia speak to this point. The UN wanting to investigate was only a suggestion and not a decision. Although, I would personally support openers and we’ll meaning international bodies be allowed to see and report on this the Ethiopian gov admits about the problem and they turned down the suggested approach and they said they would do the investigation themselves. They have the capacity and the experience of doing that if they do it rightly. That is fine too. We will see if the process is not compromized. I Wil give them the benefit of the doubt.
            The UN and Eritrea has never been an issue of suggestion. It was a decision that was rejected by the Eritrean gov again and agan. And PFDJ got your support on that all the time. I think you are riding waves here and dishonesty makes it worse. I have one cure to your illness: Ethiopia is not an enemy, it is a partner and a huge opportunity. Don’t pass your miserable Sale an lens to Eritrean kids. We want a bright future not the more of the Sahel where views are sorted free of blinders rather than through the prism of dusty fox holes.

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Dear Hayat
            My job is done.
            1, to flash out hypocrites; you were asked specific questions in regard to the current situation in Ethiopia, one of them, would you support the international calls on the government to let them investigate them. This is an independent issue. Regardless of what positions I assume when the same question applies to Eritrea, it should not affect your character. If you are truly for justice, you should lend your support to the people who are asking their government peacefully. My stances should not affect what position you take. Well, instead of telling me yes/no, you are repeating what Getachew Reda, the information minister, said. It is clear and further question Hayat.
            2. I have establish beyond any doubt that our queen is indeed a political functionary of the TPLF. I should have believed Nitrickay years ago.
            3. Here is the difference between a casual lover of a union with Ethiopia and a political cadre of the TPLF. The casual person who likes to see a union would be neutral on questions of injustice be it in Eritrea and Ethiopia. He/She would disagree of my nationalist views but would not oppose what I’m saying that the TPLF government is applying a brute force in answering peaceful demands of the people; that brute force is not the answer….that a political solution needs to be found, etc. But a political cadre of TPLF would make his/her primary source of information folks like AG who are bent to give “Eritreans a lesson they would never forget,” a man who openly stated he did not recognize the sovereign baundaries of Eritrea, etc.
            4. TPLF is Ethiopian only when it’s in power. Mind you I’m not saying the Tigray people. I know Tigray people are proud Ethiopians. But your typical TPLF cadre feels proud Ethiopian only when he/she is lording over Ethiopia and looting its resources. TPLF could not tolerate the recent unrests. You see them panicking and looking for a contingent way out (may be article 39?)
            5. AG told you Ethiopians know TPLF. I didn’t say they don’t know it. Yes, Ethiopians know TPLF as an entity that has downsized Ethiopia to chunks of ethnic regions it could easily manage. They know TPLF as an entity that represents only 6% of Ethiopian population yet controls 100%of Ethiopian politics. They know that the army division “Agazi” that is brutalizing peaceful Ethiopians is mainly Tigrean; they know TPLF as an entity that played the role of an oxpecker, sapping up and looting Ethiopian resources…they make difference between its privileged elites and the poor Tigrean peasant…
            6. I challenged you to support every weird accusation you say about me, you have produced nothing, because there is nothing you could produce. For instance you allege that I said “… that there are multiple social faultless of Ethiopia that Eritrea can exploit etc.” Bring that evidence. Acknowledging the presence of fault lines does not mean I’m proposing Eritrea should exploit it. I have already said the fight is now between you (TPLF) and the rest of Ethiopia. Eritrea should not interfere. It doesn’t need it. Another wrong assertion, “you think Ethiopia is a life time enemy of Eritrea and you are seeing an opportunity to weaken it.” WRONG. I have repeated my unity and prosperity of Ethiopia so many times but please refer to my last comment. But I will tell you that TPLF is the single most enemy of the state of Eritrea at this time. It is this organization that has tried to put wedges between Ethiopia (including the Tigray people) and Eritrea. It’s this same organization that is trying to undermine Eritrea’s unity sowing seeds of discords between Eritrean social groups for the purpose of expanding Eritrean social fault lines in a bid to establish the old order where Eritrea becomes a mere “bahri negasi”. That’s why it does not want to see assertive Eritrea. FYI: while I mentioned the reality that social faults exist. the late Meles Zenawi is on record that Eritrea could not hold up because of its ethnic and religious fault line. Pay attention to this: when MZ said that he was not really thinking of himself as an Ethiopian; or he was not comparing the reality in Eritrea and Ethiopia. He was truly thinking himself as Tigrean. He was comparing his almost one nationality and almost one-religion Tigray with the nine-nationality and an equally Muslim/Christian Eritrea. This same line is the one ravaging the region. I tell you TPLF is Ethiopian only when it’s comfortably ruling Ethiopia.

          • Thomas D

            Hi Mr. Saleh,

            “Regardless of what positions I assume when the same question applies to Eritrea, it should not affect your character.”

            Your above statement seems unacceptable. Someone is defined by his character. If you are not truth to yourself, how could you expect anyone to engage you. Clearly, you said you are against COIE and this commission is established by the hard working Eritreans long persuasion of the International community to set an international court to investigate the cases of victims of the Eritrean regime. Knowing the victims very well, you never sided with them and when their case is heard you come to defy the COIE. My friend, this will be on your resume for the long time to come. For this, you have a shoddy resume.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Hayat,

            I don’t claim to have the answer that a lot of smart and capable Ethiopians have not thought about or not capable of.

            What I think the key though, from the ruling class (EPRDF) the willingness to do the right thing and if not capable, to resign and move on and let someone else try (given the mandate by the people).

            All these other, like resources sharing etc, can be solved by looking other countries as an example, in Canada there is such thing called, equalization formula, where the government collects more from the rich region and pays out to the not so rich, to keep the overall wealth sharing fair and distributed so that most regions can have similar living standards.

            Berhe

          • Dear Berhe Y.,

            We have a saying in Amharic “ካልደፈርሰ ኣይጠራም”. It has a deep meaning. It shows going from bad to good and from good to even better. Therefore, one should not take this saying as a harbinger of bad news, but that of a good news.

            Up to now things were going without much complaint, and the government was complacent with the situation, although the people were not. Things are not going to continue the same anymore. This is the painful truth the Ethiopian government should realize before things get out of control and it should act accordingly to correct the grievances of the people. No intimidation or postponement will do the job anymore.

            I do believe that there is the hand of the opposition in this whole affair we saw lately. What sort of political organization would it be if it does not exploit the grievances of the people. But, it is not and will not be enough to explain the broad desent people have towards the government. The TPLF/EPRDF system is rotting from its core, and unless it changes and unless people are given more civil and political rights promptly, and are made stakeholders in the affairs of their country, it is in danger of facing a mass uprisings greater than the ones we have seen up to now. It is better to have the people with it than against it. Developmental state without democracy, good governance, equal participation in the fruits of the success etc, will not be palatable to ethiopians anymore. The government should not see its achievements in the economic feilds as a licence to trample on democracy and good governance.

            I hope the last events will open the eyes and ears of the government and the country will move to a better and stable future. I am sure that the Cassandras of doom and gloom will be disproved.

        • Nitricc

          Mahumady too late! Nothing short of TPLF removal is acceptable to the Ethiopian people. Now it is too late. The one they called “Shintam-Amara” is coming to take TPLF head off. The one they labeled “useless-Oromo” is coming to rip their heart from its cage; the whole Ethiopia is after them. I don’t see escaping it. We are not even factoring in the Eritrean variables. You can’t treat people with such scandalous and brut and get away with it. I said RIP TPLF!

          • Thomas D

            Hey NItricc,

            Just for fun, how about the treatment of Eritreans by your gods, brother? Do the Eritrean people deserve to be treated in a such way? GIGO, If the government of ethiopia treated their people like a garbage, it will be the turn of the people to put the government into where the belong, in the garbage. Don’t you think the same theory applies to the dictatorial regime in Eritrea? If yes, why can’t YOU rather side with Eritrean people and make history? Don’t get fluttered that I am not trying to turn you against the person you worship, DIA:)

      • Nitricc

        Hayat panicking huh? lol Rest in peace TPLF!

        • Hayat Adem

          No Nitricc, not panicking, this is called kicking your whatever.

          • Nitricc

            Hayat; i know you are losing your job and i can understand the frustrations you are going through. TPLF is in a stage no ” image enhancer agent” can be useful anymore. time is up! finally the Ethiopian people have awakened. the saddest part is all the deceiving you went through for nothing. you sold your soul for a pay check. sad, i feel sorry for you. they used you and they will through you like a used condom. SAD

          • Hayat Adem

            Nitricc,
            Do you use and throw condoms a lot? Your expressions are typically straight out of ghetto standard mouther. Expressions are experience!

  • Dear AMAN,

    This is the latest attempt by TPLF to prove that Ethiopia does not need the sea and a sea-port.
    1) Ethiopia can have a Sea port by paying about a billion dollars a year for Djibouti. After all, a Sea port is a commodity which can be bought as long as you have the money, even if it takes twice the income from coffee, the number one export of the country – (proved),
    2) Ethiopia can have a fleet of ships without a home-port – (proved),
    3) Ethiopia can have dry-ports, which do not need water – (proved), finally
    4) Ethiopia can produce an Olympic class swimming champion without the athlete ever submerging himself in the sea. May be, who knows, Ethiopia could have become the only landlocked country that has ever produced an Olympic class swimming champion – (unfortunately, failed miserably).
    No problem! After all they could not be right all the time. To be fair EPRDF/TPLF has succeeded in other feilds of the economy, although they have failed miserably as much as democracy and good governance are concerned.

    • Yoty Topy

      Hi Horizon ,
      What an embarrassment that dude man! A country that has millions of citizens going without daily food, they could have used his accommodation and flight fares to feed 1000 people for 1000 days. It is just too painful to witness the miscourage of justice .

      • Berhe Y

        Hi all,

        Here is interview he gave with voa /

        https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6yuDuseV00w

        Berhe

      • Berhe Y

        Dear YT,
        Listening to his side of the story how he got there and why he carried the flag it doesn’t seem unreasonable.

        Having said that you can’t put price what events like olempic can bring to a country and society.
        Ethiopians have done well in long distance running and may be its time that they venture into other sports like swimming. This may force the commission and the politicians to invest more and develop the sport.

        In Australia due to pure performance in swimming, they had to call an inquiry to figure out what went wrong. Why Austaralia does well in swimming is no accident, they have invested heavily for years, decades even.

        I read somewhere that kenenisa was dropped out of the games even though he qualified and is current the world record holder in marathon.

        He may not have a chance to win, but in my opinion I think he should have been brought back and he should have carried the flag, this may be his last. And I guess for that few seconds, you would hear the glory and the cheer, and the pride all Ethiopians would have felt listening to the commentators.

        That moment I think, there is no price on it. Who knows how many kids would have inspired.

        In Eritrea I feel the same, it’s shame this nobodies are made (at least from sport point of view) get to carry the flag. I would think Zeresenaw or Daniel Teklehaymanot would have been better choice.

        I personally think people who have no experience in the sport should not be in charge, period. You know why, because they don’t know what it means to be an olempian, the decipline, the hard work, the drive, the sacrifice, the disappointment, it all goes in one package.

        I don’t know his personal story but I see MuruS Yifter, the shifter, wondering around in the streets of Toronto. I don’t know what he does but I hate to think people like him who have brought so much glory have no place, advisor, commentator, consultant, etc.

        It’s touching to see the US would use Ali to light up the olempic torch and Brazil the guy who could have won the marathon in Athens if it wasn’t for the crazy person who attacked him, when they can have many others that they can chose from.

        I don’t call it it’s only our politics but I think it’s also our culture that we always give high priority to young and the strong and we forget to remind ourselves that there were others who were young and strong before us that have done miracles that inspired us that we need to honor and respect.

        Let me say this personal story, it was in 1997 Eritrean soccer festival in Toronto. I was not invited dropped out from the selection, which I thought I should have been (everyone believes the same right). Anyway they were holding a track race, 100 and 200 and 400 meters, so I thought, I knew I was fast on soccer so I thought I give it a try. I was probably in the best shape of my life and looking all this skinny highschool kids u thought I can win it all. Oh boy, I come last in both events, 200 and 400 and I stopped on the 100.

        I even dressed up for it, with sunglasses, looking like Michael (the American) and what an embarrassment I have felt. Lucky for me it wasn’t done in the main event and not too many people noticed I hoped.

        May be 10 years later, gotten old with excess fat, with a friend we joined a running club and we were training for half marathon. And one Sunday morning, this skinny looking white guys comes and introduce himself and asks if we are Ethiopians. We said sure and he asks, if it’s ok he runs along with us. We said no problem, may be he thought we are the pace makers of the group. After the 10 minutes when he figure it out, we weren’t that fast, he said, I have to pick it up a little bit and left us behind.

        So we see him at the end of 2 hrs training and we started to talk to him. He told us he is married to an Ethiopian and they were going to visit Addis for the first time. While he is there he wanted to run for the Great Run. It was quite an inspiration and I hope he did well (never saw him after that).

        Berhe

        • Yoty Topy

          Hi Berhe Y,

          “After the 10 minutes when he figures it out, we weren’t that fast, he said, I have to pick it up a little bit and left us behind.”

          By far, the funniest thing I heard this week 🙂 Thanks for putting a big smile on my face. That was just hilarious! I could just picture him as he tried to navigate with finesse to let you know that you are probably more of the case of reputation preceding actual skills . Don’t you love white folks’ supreme art of diplomatic, conversational acrobatics? 🙂 You can only imagine if that was our own guy He probably would have told you “What’s wrong with you? Are you okay?”

          I am very passionate about track and field, not just as a spectator but also as an avid hobby and one of the things I observed when I interact with Americans on course/field is that they revere East African Athletes enormously. It is like how every nech is viewed as all-knowingly back home. They would not award you a fraction of the respect they give you not even if you discovered the boson higgs particle.

          As you have alluded, no doubt that the early lessons learnt from competitive sports about winning and losing are invaluable in navigating the ups and downs of life. Judging from your astute and well measured opinions you air here, no doubt that it has served you well

          Back to the swimmer, I think in my opinion, he encapsulates literarily and metaphorically the disease i.e corruption, which is afflicting this nation. I am sure it is ones in a life time experience for him. Who wouldn’t want that? In one of the reports I read that he is the son of the coach and if that is indeed true, that’s just pure naked nepotism. I find it difficult that there aren’t any other better candidates. The fact that one of the best athletes was dropped on technical grounds and yet they added this man to their roster is not only saddening but sheds light to some of the helplessness people feel whenever they feel they are wronged. A decorated athlete can’t do anything if some jerk refused to hear his case. I do understand your point of expanding other sports (Lord knows we need other sports other than Premier League) but resources are limited and we have to very efficient with them. Having Kennenisa, even if he is not in his prime, because of his experience he would have been of immense help to the other runners thereby increasing the chances of a medal.

          Isn’t it also ironic that the nation with the most impoverished citizens sends one of fattest athlete to the most physically rigorous event? This is just a glaring depiction of life among the privileged and those living in the margins.

          I mean, fencing or golf? we understand but not swimming!

  • Nitricc

    Hayat Melles is gone and your beloved TPLF died with him while the lion Nqfa is well and kicking it. I know you are dipresd and going through tough times. I understand. The funeral of TPLF is upon us.
    Awet nihafsh
    Long live Pia.
    Long live PFDJ.
    Long live Eritrea.

    • Hayat Adem

      Awet n’Hafash yibil feshfash
      Long live Pia yibl ekuy seb bela’ae
      Long live PFDJ yibil weshlakh DJ

  • Nitricc

    Hey Abi tes does not drink by the glass; you better show him by the bottles. The guy is toasted. What a wasted one.

  • Mahmud Saleh

    Hi abi
    No, I heard KS has been coaching the Ethiopian swimmer you called “whale”. I don’t know, just a word I have intercepted (ayer be’ayer).

    • Abi

      Hi Vet
      OMG!!!
      If you remember last time he went vacation he told us he is going to swim with sharks.
      Hey, if you are a member of the Ethiopian swimming team and your name is Kiros, you don’t need coaching. On top of that , if your father is the president of the Olympics committee, you have the honor to carry the national flag.
      BTW, I didn’t call him Whale. I have a better name for him not suitable for family friendly website.
      I think “The Mail” or Telegraph called him whale.

  • Mahmud Saleh

    Selam AMAN
    Ha..ha..ata rgoom! Say that out to T.T. I do have the same feeling but I have to observe civility and call him for what he claims to be. By the way, there are many decent Ethiopians who understand international law, and who have moved on. So, it would be wrong to put all Ethiopians in one basket. I call them the qebeTbaTa elite who have soothed their ego through the blood of countless lives.

  • Hayat Adem

    Hi Ras Abi,
    Why do you want to tag that title to you? Ras Abi sounds like Ras Ali.I read a nice old book called “The Nile” by Emil Ludwig (1933). I recommend that book to all serious readers. In that book, there is one greedy Ras who wished in his death will to leave his left hand out uncovered when they bury him. His reason: he wanted to continue collecting taxes after he was dead and buried. In that book again, the reason why queen Victoria sent Napier was because Thedros sent her first a marriage proposal after she was widowed and when she ignored his proposal he shackled British Ambassador, Cameroun chained to common criminals. At another place, he says Taytu poisoned Minilik in disagreement with his choice of a heir. She thought, if the crown was to be given to her nephew instead, she would retain some power of influence and continue to be remain as powerful empress. You will find beautiful accounts on the Ethiopian mountains, on the Nile and humanity in general- really so many different facts and versions that never made it to the mainstream narrative in the Ethiopian history and geography.
    ——-
    If there is any game Kokhob would take part in, it would be something other than shooting. It is unbecoming of him to totally disappear from the forum. He also used to drop me a line or two of personal message on email. So, that too has stopped. I am worried about his absence a bit.

    • Nitricc

      Hayat that is very funny.lol

      “…in his death will to leave his left hand out uncovered when they bury him. His reason: he wanted to continue collecting taxes after he was dead and buried..”
      well no worries the whereabouts of Kokhob. the Weyanes are short on Agazi army and are recruiting every able body. Kokhob is seen in Bahir-Dar breaking the demonstration with the Agazi Army. it is not known when he will be back.

      • Hayat Adem

        Hi guys (Nitricc and SemereT),
        My worry about Kokhob is really genuine. It is not something I brought to entertain for fun. So, you don’t need to say things in his absence on his back.

        • Abi

          Hi Qonjit
          Kokobe is with Eyobe in Gonder working on ” selamna meregagat ”

          • Hayat Adem

            Better.

        • A.Osman

          Dear Hayat,

          You are correct, checking with his relative, Kokhob Selam is not well. Wishing him a quick recovery.

          Regards
          AOsman

          • Hayat Adem

            Thanks A. Osman,
            Really sad to hear that. I hope he will survive it the hero he is. I thank for the info, but it really is a bad news. A selfless person like that would never quite interaction unless something serious befell him. Let’s include him in our daily prayers and wish him a recovery. Many people here don’t know what he was going through and braving and how selfless hero that he is. Oh my friend, may the Almighty help you get well soon.
            Hayat

    • Semere Tesfai

      Selam Hayat

      “If there is any game Kokhob would take part in, it would be something OTHER THAN SHOOTING. It is unbecoming of him to totally disappear from the forum. He used to drop me a line or two of PERSONAL MESSAGES ON MY E-MAIL. So, that too has stopped. I am worried about his absence.”

      Hayat: how do you know he is not into shooting?

      If my memory is serving me right, last time, HE FIRED SEVEN SHOTS AND MISSED NONE!!!

      Abi help me her. Please, Please, PLease!!!!!!

      • Abi

        Semere T
        Kemey, Kemey, Kemey
        Yes, Kokobe never missed a shot. He always keep his gun on automatic. Ta,Ta,Ta,Ta,Ta, Ta,Ta!
        Gold medalist!

        • Semere Tesfai

          Selam Abi

          Thank you.

          To this day, every time I see your name, I smile remembering the “automatic. Ta,Ta,Ta,Ta,Ta, Ta,Ta!” comment of yours.

          Thank you.

          ለመሆኑ በ private e-mail ነገር ቀንተህ አንዳትከሳ አደራ::

          ከቀናሕ ግን: there is always a beautiful lady on the other side of the river bank. But, but….

          Caution: Treat her like a princess. If you don’t – ወታደር ነች:: አንደ ጎንደሬዋ አልቅሳ አትሄድም:)

          • Abi

            Hi Semere T
            BeKokob birhan temerto
            Qomom hone tegnito
            Aystim kaneTaTere
            Kokobe kewerewere
            Ziq bilo agonbiso
            Ende doro majirat nekso
            Asdenso asleqso…

  • Abi

    Selam Wolde ab
    Are you saying he was the one carrying the flag?
    YereTebew lay shenachibet! Yiluhal endih new!

  • Hayat Adem

    Mamuday, did you read that?

  • Hayat Adem

    Hello Kokhob Selam,
    I am not reading or hearing from you these days. And you have never been away this long from the discussion forum. I was not in attendance for some of the days but I just want to know you are doing okay and you are following up the discussions.
    Hayat

    • Solomon

      Selamat HA HA HA HA HA,

      BeAlti bietka tHasbelka ygberelka, kab weladitka tsheQelelka kem tebaHle…
      “NOT”
      tekal HatSuru,
      Zemtslka tsuruwrai..

      “I wana be like Mike”
      How, about you?
      Do you want to be like Robel? Better skip your Wheaties…I want to be like Phelps. I want to be like Abel/Robel.
      I have been noticing, Uhmm, Uhmmmthe Wildcats of U.K. recruiting heavily for an Athletics Trainer Coach, and Kokhob Selam was spotted wearing a suit en rout to Kentucky after finishing his first interview with the Jay Hawks.
      TA TA TA TA TA
      tSAtSE

  • T..T.

    Hi all,

    In the ongoing discussion between Hayat Adem vs Mahmud Saleh, the game is whoever uses the “pencil detector” is seen to properly anticipate better what is next. Since the played game calls on both to be real, Hayat warns Mahmud not to pick opinions from the sounds of the Isayasists trumpets. Yet, Mahmud continues to challenge the generals of Ethiopia to be fair and equal to all Ethiopians. Hayat responds telling Mahmud to better first be honest about the generals of Isayas before demanding any truth about the Ethiopian generals. But taking the advantage of the Awate-com’s free and non-law-enforcement environment in case of double standards, Mahmud chose to pretend deaf and blind to the realities in Eritrea.

    What both are missing, wherever they are, to always open their eyes to the following facts:

    In free Eritrea (during the occupation days of Turkey, Egypt, Italy, British and Ethiopia, it was common for the people to say: ነገር ድልይሊ በትሪ ሃሰውሰው – when one looks for trouble, grope for your stick (to hit him across the head).

    In enslaved Eritrea (in Isayas/Higdef land) people follow the wisdom of – ነገር ድልይሊ መንገዲ መምለቂ ወይ ሃርባ ሃሰውሰው – when one looks for trouble, better to dive into becoming a target of Isayas’s shoot to kill order. If lucky and make it through to a safe escape route crossing the border, don’t give up your harvestable organs to the tyrant’s agents.

    Eritrean Diasporas living in countries outside the USA, resort to – ነገር ድልይሊ ነዊሕ መልሓስ ሃሰውሰው – When one looks for trouble, go for unguarded mouth and tongue while keeping hands under control.

    Eritrean Diasporas living in the USA, they resort to – ነገር ድልይሊ ሽጉጥ ሃሰውሰው – when one looks for trouble, grope for your guns.

    • Mahmud Saleh

      Selam T..T.
      You may huff and puff but you can’t be more Ethiopian or Tigrean than Generals Tsadkan and Abebe. You could not be more Ethiopian than Horizon and abi. You may certainly try to, but not possible my friend. Here are a couple of helpful links for you. No pencil dector nor pencil eraser needed. It’s a straight talk Mr.Twister.
      http://goo.gl/zggFR8
      http://goo.gl/WCP4ht

      • T..T.

        Selam Mahmud Saleh,

        Yes, I meant that pencil detector saves one from taking the longest way, strolling past trivial and irrelevant issues, and then ending in irrelevant outcomes.

        Principled people, like our justice seekers, may easily be under estimated by dishonest and deceitful mid-grounders. For example, as to Hayat, the truth about Ethiopia and Eritrea equally depends on consistency of openness to political expression, respect for human rights, and responsiveness to the needs of the people, all of which are absent in the Isayas Land. Knowing that Hayat has a pool of political evidences on justice, fairness and equality, she can enjoy steady wins in the issues discussed.

        If I would be technical like AMAN, I would say that the pencil detection is about the flow of information and detection ability about what is coming next. If the pencil does not have at its disposal, free and easy access to the needed information, the slowness may interfere with the speed of grasping the issue and obtaining supporting evidences in time. Having pencil detector gives Hayat not a slow but a fast and final winning.

        Pencil detectors may also help to tell whether the provided environment is faking its welcomes and accommodations. For example, A/Rahman Sayed Bohashem was highly welcomed by Meskerem-dot-net yesterday, but today Alem Goitem dumped and threw him into the basket of the unwanted Eritrean opposition personnel. Without detecting pencil, the same may happen to Keleta Kidane and Mahmud Saleh tomorrow at the site of the mid-grounders (Meskerem-dot-com).

        We all know that life inside Eritrea has come to a total stop in every aspect. No need for taking a stand of mid-ground. At least, if you cannot condemn the tyrant, show your disapproval by not commending his rule even by one percent. The tyrant failed to demonstrate accountability even after the call and findings of COIE. He also failed to meet the consistency requirement in justice, fair and equal treatment of the people, due to which people are fleeing in droves. Don’t you think it is time for the mid-grounders to stop dancing to the destructive policies of the tyrant internally, regionally and internationally?

  • PTS

    Nitricc…blink..peace…yoty topy..abi… blink…yoty…nitricc…topy…kim…abi…blink…hope.. …peace…kim…
    Very confusing around here.

    • blink

      Dear PTS
      You know for a fact
      1. semere A is disappointed. we are not commenting about his racist friend Mr. medanagari (tesfatsion, eyob ) .
      2.Hayat is not feeling good these days.
      3.Amanuel Hidrat is having a blood pressure due to weyane `s problem.
      4.tes is in the middle just confused what to say about EPRDF sinking ship.
      5.SJ is waiting for larger fish to make mistake so he can drop the bomb on the head of EPRDF .
      6.Saay is enjoying the brain surgery of TPLF , you know him well. He love this game
      7.T.Kifle is packing his belonging from middle Ethiopia and is worried about his future
      8.Eyob is just in his bed room ,until the storm cool down so that cut the internet connection.
      9.Rahwa.T is sweating to death due to Gonder `s dedicated challenge to her beloved EPRDF.
      10.Abi and Topy are enjoying the game minus the tragedy of deaths.
      11.Thomas is a new bride of TPLF cadre for this situation

      well, me i always wanted the failure of any of them (HGDEF and EPRDF) , i am just open for any of them to fall apart to ashes , so that the two people can at least do the good work.

      • Yoty Topy

        Hi blink,

        ‘I am just for any of them to fall apart to ashes’

        That would qualify as ‘false equivalency’ my friend! You can’t seriously compare those two. I mean,it is not even remotely close. It is like day and night. Deep down, it in the hearts of your hearts, you know that you would choose EPRDF on an given bad day. However, the evolution of these two groups would make a perfect political science case study about what to do and what not to do upon assuming the role of governishp in post guerrilla warfare orde. Care to indulge in speculating what not to do after you assume power ? I will get it started 🙂 Don’t start lecturing Africans how to govern on your first day . I will leave the rest of 101 errors , your flag bearer committed for you to fill out:)

        • Peace!

          Selam Yoty Topy,

          They are the same in a sense the fact that both are suffering from Tygrigna dominance syndrome and are paying heavy price. Now, at this critical junction comparing statistics is pretty much immaterial.

          Peace!

        • blink

          Dear Topy
          The reason i said, “both have to brun to ashes” , is both of them are not what the people want . And i am sure if EPRDF can fall on Friday , we can be certain about celebrating the fall of dictator ISSAIAS on Saturday. I just do not like them both. Unless I know them are quite different .

      • tes

        Dear blink,

        I think I have said what I have to say about EPRDF and my wish to see a peaceful, democratic, transparent governance in Ethiopia. For this I have highlighted that FEAR is eroding from Ethiopian people to make what is expected to be.

        By the way, too much talk. Mizan, Novice, whatever you are, you are always the same person.

        tes

        • Thomas D

          Hi Tes,

          It is Selam. She gets a a head ach when people start talking the DIA regime. She is the twin of Peace, DIA’s spy. Let them enjoy the moment, we need to focus on our COIE. These people have been accused committing crime against humanity. Let them enjoy the moment they are brought to court.

      • Rahwa T

        Hi blink,
        Who is this blink? Few days back, I read that Sara, the notorious, has returned back to Awate with a brand new name. Is it true? Is it the Sara who used to very often mention her mother (but not her father for no-known-reason) for bringing up her at a ‘great care’ and ‘well-manner’, Sara the girl who works at a certain bank as an IT expert, the single girl, who boast for working hard and behaving well but rush to night clubs every Friday after work to be FREE and… look for a match. Tell me about her before I proceed discussing. She seems to be regular visitor here and knows many of the participants who we missed them a lot.

        bye,
        RT

        • blink

          Dear Rahwa.T
          I was just wondering about your absence nothing else. by the way keep guessing

      • Hayat Adem

        Blink,
        I am feeling okay. I like your name, by the way.

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Dear blink,

        Who am I to talk about Ethiopia and its political problem while myself and the so called justice seekers are still failed to extricate my own people from the grip of a dictator. My position was and still is, to focus on our own problem. I am not from the individuals or groups who looks for a compensating loops to satisfy their political pisitions from other countries failures just simply to feel good.

        I always call to our Ethiopian brothers to restrian from interfering in our domestic issues debates, the same as I do to my fellow Eritreans to restrian from the Ethiopian domestic issues. However When it comes to the geopolitics of the horn, on bringing peace between the two countries, and pissible economic cooperations, both sides can debate for the sake of peace, stability, and economic opportunities for our people. I said it many times and I will say it now. That is the principle I stood for.

        Last but not least, I do not understand this all hoopla surrounding the situation in Ethiopia, and asking the forumers to react against Ethiopian domestic issues. There is nothing Eritrea can get benefit from the distability of Ethiopia, nor does it help to our cause. This will only satisfy to the regime of Eritrea and its supporters and not to change seekers and justice seekers in our own country. So Mr. blink, I do not blink, instead I focus to the issue of my people. I am on record on this issue.

        Regards
        Amanuel Hidrat

        • blink

          Dear Mr. Amanuel Hidrat
          Sorry about every thing , I was just guessing what could Mr. Amanuel say about this , that is it.

        • Mahmud Saleh

          Ahlen Emma

          1. You said “I always call to our Ethiopian brothers to restrian from interfering in our domestic issues debates, the same as I do to my fellow Eritreans to restrian from the Ethiopian domestic issues.”

          Shall we call this a new beginning of Emma? If we go a bit down the memory lane, we will find the same Emma advocating for a more aggressive support of Ethiopia to solve Eritrean domestic affairs (even militarily)*. You even said on this forum that TPLF joined EPLF drive ELF out of Eritrea, so what’s the big deal of asking TPLF-controlled Ethiopian government to ask it to help (fill in) to get rid of PFDJ. You have been consistent on this my friend. When Ethiopian decide who should convene and who should not, when they decide who should have the monthly budget and who should not, when they shepherd the whole Ethiopia based Eritrean organizations by a retired army General and security personnel, you are talking about restraining?
          2. I would really not want to go to these issues, but here you are blaming me and others as “individuals or groups who looks for a compensating loops to satisfy their political pisitions from other countries failures just simply to feel good.” It’s good that you are not one of them. You could not be one of them though because they don’t exist. We are having a sober discussion of events whose effects could spill over. I did not hear you calling on PMHD when he repeatedly said that he is going to give “proportional” response when in fact he should have solved his own internal problems rather than setting up a scapegoat Eritrea, something Ethiopians have become boring at.
          3. “There is nothing Eritrea can get benefit from the distability of Ethiopia, nor does it help to our cause”

          By characterizing the mass uprisings whose sole petition is for the government to resect the constitution it wrote as “destabilizing Ethiopia” you have already implicated yourself as taking a side, which means, you are already reacting to Ethiopian domestic affair. You are siding with the government which is a expected of you and is consistent with your previous stances. Now, when you sympathize with the government don’t we have the right to sympathize with the people, including with the people of Tigray whose prominent leaders are calling for a political solution? What’s wrong with an opinion that underlines that police force is not the answer, and that the government should seek a political solution. What’s wrong with that? How would that make one as trying to “satisfy their political pisitions from other countries failures just simply to feel good.”
          4. Are you telling me you never discussed Ethiopian affair? Are you saying that you did not write articles that deal, wholly or partially with, Ethiopian affair?
          5. If so, why is it OK for you to comment on Ethiopian, Ethiopia-Eritrean, The Horn, The Region’s affair, etc., as you please to put it but becomes a not-to-go-to area for others.
          Dear Emma, if you would simply state your mind I would not bother at all. But you are dismissing people who genuinely care about the situation, worse you are accusing us as trying to satisfy our political position. WRONG ten to the power of n where n is> than10 to the power of 6. I whole heartedly believe you are for the peace and cooperation of the region. In that case, you have to call a spade a spade. If not controlled peacefully, the situation in Ethiopia could plunge the whole region into ZEMENE MESAFNTI (the era of the feudal lords) where now our modern lords will be equipped with tanks rockets and modern aircrafts. Another angle from which to see the issue is that if the government of Ethiopia chooses not to heed the calls from the people and its own cadres, it may launch another unwarranted yet horrific war against Eritrea in order to shift off internal pressure. In that case, you and I will bicker here on awatista forum, but young soldiers will pay with their lives for adventurous expeditions that others outline. Therefore, calling upon the Ethiopian regime to do the right thing, and sympathizing with the people who are standing up for their rights is not something of a political game. You either stand with the people or the government. I think we both have made our position clear here, but I maight have missed something. If so please enlighten me.
          This has been the “clear and crisp” message from yours.
          Regards.

          • Thomas D

            Hi Mr. Saleh,

            The only problem I have with the TPLF group is that they never tried to help the poor Eritreans. I always have never lost hope that one day they would march to Asmara to get rid of the dictator. For that, I am not too fun of them. However, I wish if they were Eritrean liberators as they show discipline and gosh they are so democratic minded than those of your kinds. I see you write much about you have done this and that. That no one is to equal you and that are tested. For that you so special and everybody must listen to what you have to say, typically dictator characteristic. You need to slow down man, because you have killed people that cannot make you above all:)

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Selam ThomasD
            Actually, I’m a coward. That’s why I’m moaning and whining from afar and behind the keyboard. I never claimed to be one. Heroes walk, cowards talk. You and I are talking. You got it my friend. I’m just opining, and for that I expect nothing greater than respect of my right to opine. Have I tried to belittle and look down upon you when you came up with numerous proposals I may find weird? No, because that’s your right. So, my friend play the game within acceptable parameters. Now, that I admitted for being a coward, show me what a hero you could be.
            Regards.

          • Thomas D

            Selam Mr. Saleh – Suggestion: you need to cool down, NO one cares on who you are. We have zero appetite to hear your propaganda and hatreds towards others. You were a disappointment when you reject:

            a) when you reject the COIE report
            b) reject a targeted sanction against those murderers or enemies of my people inside my country
            c) Attacked justice seekers

            You stood for the above (a-c) because you think off your contribution to be too much and if the regime you are defending goes your feeling importance goes…. Trust me, no one cares about you and your kinds anymore. What did you bring us except miseries!

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Ati ThomasD
            Ugh!!!!!!!
            You are the last I care about either. I just responded because you tried to ride the high horse. I expect nothing from the likes of you my friend. And it would be a travesty if I would agree with your wild ideas. Now, back to the point. You started with hero and non hero (something I never talk about. I admit that I’m a coward because I’m discussing Eritrean situation from a far and from behind the screen, OK. I admitted that. Now, show us who the hero you are. Hint: It starts with taking off the mask. Stay tuned my friend. The chatter and the debate will continue.

          • Thomas D

            Hi Mr. Saleh,
            Your attitude is shown when you use words like “Ati” to address me. Look at yourself, you are still acting like a jungle boy. I suggest you drop phrases like I will smooke out or whatever that might be. There is law in the country you live & after all you are acting like a street boy!!

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Ato ThomasD and All esteemed awatistas

            Thanks Thomas for the correction. The “Ati” was a typo error. It was meant to be “Ato”, thanks again. That’s not my language, and I have edited it. I tried to follow a basic rule. First, I replied to you in a cordial and respectful manner. You failed to seize that, instead, read your reply and just try to see who used street language. Then what do I do? I would have to use a language you may be able to understand in my own way and terms. My friend, how many times have you provoked me in the past? There is a reason why I choose not to reply to your provocations. Dig it. I responded today, because you’ve become so comfortable getting away with insults and personal attacks. Please, do it with respect, and I will be happy to learn from you. Just be respectful. On substance, I have no problem. You may differ with me. I respect your views. That’s why I don’t respond to your comments. This time, I’m challenging you to tell us who the hero you are? Just take of your mask and tell us why you feel you have the right to insult our history and our heroes, who walked the walk, by saying ” What did you bring us except miseries!” No, my friend, we kicked the AZZ of an occupying army. Got it. We did not do it from afar, we did not do it from behind the keyboard, we did not do it by masking our identity…No, we did it how brave men and WOMEN do it. NOW, Mr.hero, if you are the hero you claim you are, I will tell you how to get rid of the miseries we brought upon you. Easy. Just rise to the occasion and tell me you are ready.
            Thanks again.

          • Thomas D

            Hi Mr. Saleh,

            I am glad you corrected the typo error on your part. If you care to know where I stand on our current situation, I am with the my Eritrean people. The most important thing to me is saving lives. That is saving the lives of young people who are forced to leave their country and the rest of their believed families to runaway from the monsters who are attacking them mercilessly. That is very point I give priority. I read you talking about ghedli a lot, I will take a note of what you wrote above and I will try to tell where my views are different from yours:
            – You said, “No, my friend (Thomas), we kicked the AZZ of an occupying army. Got it.” I politely ask you to clarify who the “we” is. Also, I need to know what you meant when you said, “we kicked the “AZZ””. Is an “AZZ” a formal way of communication because I have a high standard of you. I have read your articles; and I know you are an intelligent person to avoid such kinds of vocabulary. Look somewhere in my earlier comments I was curious to know “What you have become?”. I am sure when you fought for xx years against the brutal Ethiopian army, you had your people in your mind when fighting or didn’t you? In my opinion, the land means nothing if the native people make a use it or harvesting from it or allowed to have a peaceful and are free to move on their own land. It is because I see things from these views that I have anger against the regime and blind his followers.
            – You asked me if I am a hero. The short answer is I am not and I never did indicate that I am a hero.
            – I can tell you I feel the pain of my Eritrean people deep inside. I want the tragedies that is happening in my own country to end today. I have decided to become part of whoever has decided to change the course. That is my main focus knowing I am not a hero but I can be part of the positive change? If I have a problem with my own family, I cannot talk about problems of my neighbors. I would simply focus to resolve the issues with my own problem. It is after I have a stable family of my own that I can advice others only if they need me to help and if I am qualified to provide help.

          • Thomas D

            Hi Mr. Saleh,

            My response to your above writing is awaiting moderator approval. Thank you for addressing my concern.

          • Thomas D

            Hi Mr. Saleh,

            Now, I know for sure that the moderate did not like my comment. I do not like to accuse them but I posted and re-posted my comment for it to mysteriously to disappear. I guess they have saved you by removing my rebuttal:) I am sure one day you will learn to think about the Eritrean people first and then our nation, Eritrea second. As a country with out her people is just an open land with mountains and waters. It is the colorful people who make a colorful country, gebito:) Think about that!! Also, understand that I am not untigedli but unti-tegadeli who have forgotten their people now. Those tegadeli who paid with their lives to liberate our nation are not like the remnants who have betrayed the people who stood with them all the way. They must understand that Eritrea is older than them, that they did not create Eritrea. Eritrea is defined by the entire Eritrean people not by these cruel self-serving greedy once.

          • blink

            DearThomas
            Your words are a witness to your health and the state you are in. I would have advised Mr. Mahamud Saleh to just brash you off with ignoring you , but he is so nice and he replied to you. You , yes you , you are insulting so many people and has no prove to back it up . what it could be the reason ?
            Mr. Mahmud Saleh , does not want your approval to be called Eritrean hero because he is already is one of a kind. Thomas this is not Paltolk room for stupid people “where you and your friends abuse our heroes. You are not any more opponent to the dictator in Asmara than any one, nor do you do any thing more than any one. Let every body contribute her /his share to and any thing we say about Ethiopia is just from a principle point of view . I and so many can be justice seekers only for Eritreans while our Ethiopian brother is gunned down by Agazi police and vise versa is true about our Ethiopian brother, do not you see they raise their hand when ever evil things happen in Eritrea. This is just a matter of principle and also defines who you are as a person.

          • Thomas D

            Hi Bleak,

            I wanted to respond but nah I will not dignify your crab by doing that.

          • blink

            Dear Thomas
            wink wink , you already did , if you did not see ,ur comment is above mine in a row.

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Dear blink and nitrickay
            Thanks. The problem with folks like this guy is that they lack basic sense of inhibition. I know his tolerance for bigotry as evidenced by his defense of the bigot guy who claims to be reviving Agazian nation, I know his bashing of Eritrean struggle, I know his wacky proposals. A man of no principle at that. I never cared to engage him despite his provocations, because I know I will not have meaningful exchanges with him. Who cares what he thinks of Eritrean ghedli and sacrifices? But I came to challenge him today. The tactic was to catch him off-guard. He challenged me I’m not a hero. Well, I never claimed I’m and I never claim I will be one. Now, the burden is on this coward to tell us who he is and what makes him hero. Because only a hero calls another a coward. And that starts by unmasking himself, and telling us why he thinks he could call others coward. The challenge is still standing out there. Thanks for your nice words. The opposition jungle is filled with all types of weirdo my friend. Even the thief and coward Tesfazion who is claiming to be in a mission to emancipate Tigrigna Tewahdo is hiding in this jungle.

          • Nitricc

            Thomas; what have you done? what is your contribution? what is your purpose of your wasted life? I think those questions will be excellent starting points to ask yourself. Trust me, I have known you from the get go what a loser you are. from the day you tried to bully Dr Sarah from past grudges against the woman told us every thing we need to know. you have no respect for people. at least do what they have done before you opining your stupid mouth.
            Awate-Ni-hafash.
            Long live PIA.

          • Thomas D

            Nitricc – little knowledge is dangerous, you are a puppy and you are just doing what you are set to do. No more no less, get it together, Men!!

          • Nitricc

            Thomas I am not telling you not to express what you feel but do it with a little respect. You are hitting trifecta in a negative way. respect always.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            selam Mahmuday,

            Since you have a soft spot on the regime and we have different positions on the fate of our youngs under the regime, and if we start it, it will be a dog fight and turn into personal ones, as it did in the past many times. l will avoid to engage you for the sake of sane debate and respect of the forumers. We know each other positions on the fight of human rights and political rights. It is in the public domain and let us leave it for history and our young generation to give their verdict.

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Selam Emma
            Focus is needed brother. I don’t think calling him DIA/IA/PIA… will make a difference. As I said to Hayat, like it or not, until your dismantlement project materializes, there will be one man who will sign treaties on behalf of all of us. His name is IA, his title is Head of State. Now, call him whatever name you pick, it won’t make a difference. That being said, I responded only because you tried to dismiss people who commented on Ethiopian affair. You are within your right not to comment. But if you start talking about those who wanted to comment on that subject in bad way, then expect a reply. That’s the point. Otherwise, it always agonizes me to confront you. As they say “Mashi” ya ustaz.

          • Hayat Adem

            Yes MahmudayPM,
            You are right. In fact, you told us your preferred title for him was HDIA.

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Hey Hayat
            I know you are trying to pull down SAAY from his comfortable watchtower to join the fray.I don’t think he will do that. He is so comfortable under the pretext of “being busy”.

          • tes

            Dear Mah;ud Saleh,

            How is he[Ato Keleta Kidane] doing your friend ? I thought you have changed a forum to meshrefet. I don’t know why you are here.

            I am saying because I thought that you are bored with Awate Forumers after @ or more years of engagement.

            tes

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Ahlan tes
            How is your family, I hope they both mom and daughter are adjusting to the new life.
            I’ve been here tes. FYI: English participation here, and Tigrigna articles are not only on Meskerem, but also on Assenna and Togoruba. That should show you that I care about messages more than the medium. I also sent copies to shabait.com. How about that tes. I think I replied this question more than ones. Media outlets, parties…are all mechanisms for disseminating one’s views agendas, etc. At this stage, all I want to see is for Eritreans to build a capacity that helps us narrow down our differences. I control my message not the other way around.
            Regards.

          • sara

            Dear
            Ma’sha’alah, is this from sj, sy, ms, ms ? Just curious.

            ,

        • Peace!

          Selam Emma,

          Actually you really had a good opportunity to tell them not to interfere in Eritrean internal affairs when they offer you the $3000 to topple Eritrean government, but sadly enough you took the money and even let them set the agenda for you. N’kalieka Belo 🙂

          Peace!

        • Hayat Adem

          Hi Emma,
          For the purpose of personal correspondence, could you kindly contact me on hayatadem87@gmail.com please?
          Hayat

  • Peace!

    Dear hope,

    Obviously Hayat is in a panic mood as the uprising in Ethiopia-Tigray reaching to a boiling point that now she is more concerned less on Eritrea. This is a country that recently she thought could invade Eritrea open the back door for our cousins to strength their grib and hold tight breathing tube of Oromos and Amhars till the looting is completed and ready to execute article 39, the right to secede. I can understand her frustration given the big dream is now hits a dead-end. She was warned not one times, but multiple times, to read history and focus on something realistic, but instead she went wild and even suggested Amharic should also be considered as an official language for Eritreans, as ironic as she gets. But hey it is free forum and nick name friendly, who know she will come tomorrow as if she didn’t say anything.

    Peace!

  • Hayat Adem

    Dear Mahmuday (PM),
    Okay I’ll focus. Please understand you are forcing me to say things on issues and positions I’m not updated yet.
    1). On Tsadkan and Samora, I’ven’t read him so I’ll not say much.. But based on what you said that he thought the ruling party is putting Tigreans at more risk, I will say the following: If he meant that TPLF is favoring more Tigreans unfairly at the expense of others and by that angering the rest of Ethiopia: I see two responsible entities to be guilty: TPLF and the Tigrean elites (Tsadkan being one of them). If he meant that there is a wrong perception and unreasonable bias against Tigreans mistaking them for benefiting more unfairly while the truth is they are not benefiting more: I see two responsible entities that are guilty: the propagandist defamers exploiting this wrong perception to advance wrong notions for political profit (you being one of them) and the TPLF not doing enough to disarm them with the truth. On Samora: You haven’t given me a context as to where, to whom and why he said it. That matters a lot because it is totally different if he said it recently in relation to the uprisings or he said it during a TPLF’s anniversary reflecting history. But regardless, I can say this: It is totally inappropriate for chief of staff to say anything related to partisan politics favoring or disfavoring any political party. His job as a soldier would be to defend the country and the constitution.
    2) On: “Any comment on the way Tigray administration is handling the matter, basically pitching people against people?”. I haven’t followed what Tigray State’s reaction has been on this. You didn’t tell me how they pitched people against people. But my general principle is they should know better and they should be the last ones to agitate people against people. Obviously, I am totally against that. But impression is they are very responsible people. Even with all provocations from PFDJ, they never pitched their people against Eritreans when even there is a public mood accusing them of becoming so soft with Eritrea.
    3) This is dishonest of you to ask me to comment on this but I think I said enough earlier. To repeat: I call up on the government to develop wisdom of not using force beyond what is needed to maintain law and order. I call on the government to listen to the public grievances and address them decisively. I asked the Ethiopian public to watch vigilantly for any external hands and their messengers trying to exploit the situation, emphasis on IA and Egypt.
    4) I’ve a comment on your 4th point. This situation should have been their top agenda and point of urgent occupation both at the regional and federal level government branches and parties. I am puzzled as much as you are. I have not understood why this is not the case. My guess is either they are totally panicking and disorganized and they don’t know what to do at all or they are showing arrogance that this is a regional and one party (ANDM) issue and it has not become worthy of their attention yet. Either ways: it is wrong and irresponsible.
    5) On the jailing of bloggers and writers and journalists, this is easy. I use the strongest words possible to disapprove, despise and reject governments that jail people, journalists or bloggers just because they said things or expressed their critical opinions.
    6) “6. Any comment why you would act discriminately when it comes to justice (justice for Eritreans[????????] and no justice for Ethiopians)? ”
    I didn’t get your point here. Are you accusing me of seeking more justice for Eritreans and not so for Ethiopians? I am not sure I get you on this, but except my situation depending information access, proximity and relationship impacted my level of emphasis, I always use, (or at least I would like to think so) the same principle and logic.
    7) Where did I support them or advise them in a sense to encourage them to continue doing what they are doing? You ar way off on that. The only advice I gave to the government is to try to refrain from using force. Is that wrong?
    ***Mahmuday, be real! I don’t believe you can care for the Ethiopian people if you can’t care for the Eritrean people. Did you ever say anything on the Generals who are not just saying and writing things but enslaving, jailing, torturing, smuggling, raping Eritreans? Did you say anything on the PFDJ leaders who are doing untold abuses and atrocities on people on Kunama and Afar? Did you say anything in support of the human rights report and the Geneva demonstration, the hundreds of refugees fleeing their country every day? You are criticizing the Ethiopian parliament not picking and discussing the crisis and you are right on that. Did say anything the fact that Eritrea lost its parliament, lost its cabinet council, and there is totally nothing to check IA’s crazy decisions to speak of? Did you say anything on the jailed, killed, made disappeared bloggers and editors in Eritrea? All I remember is that you have been telling us why don’t support the sanctions and the investigations and so on because you thought they infringe national interest and they are foreign-driven. But you are totally offended when I mention Egypt and IA with disturbances in Ethiopia. And this is a real possibility because Egypt has been at it all the time more so now because of the GERD. IA has been at that, more now because of the critical timing due to the pressures surrounding him. He was out saying bad things about the GERD in support of Egypt. Birhanu is receiving money from Egypt via IA. Geneve is clean compared to that and yet you rejected that invoking national interest. How does that work for you my PM?
    Gual Adem
    Gual Adem

    • Berhe Y

      Dear Hayat,

      I think it would help if you read the article of General Tsadikan. Below is the summary, I think he touches on most of what you are taking about and provide guide how to move forward.

      ይህ አጭር ፅሁፍ ስድስት ክፍሎች ይኖሩታል፡፡ የመጀመሪያው ፖለቲካዊ ችግሮቹ ምንድን
      ናቸው መንስኤያቸው ምንድን ነው የሚለውን ጉዳይ ይዳሰሳል፣ ቀጥሎም ይህ አሁን የምንገኝበት ፖለቲካዊ ሁኔታ እንዴት እያደገ መጣ ወደየት ይወስደናል ያሉት አማራጮች ምንድን ናቸው የሚለው ሃሳብ ያነሳል፣ ከዚህ ቀጥሎ የትግራይ ህዝብ አሁን ባለው የኢትዮጵያ ፖለቲካ ውስጥ ራሱን ምን ዓይነት ቦታ ላይ ያስቀምጣል የሚለውን ጥያቄ በማንሳት አስተያየቴን አስቀምጣለሁ፡፡ ከዚህ በኋላ አሁን እያደገ የመጣውን ፖለቲካዊ ቀውስ የፀጥታ ሃይሎች በተለይ የሀገር መከላከያ ሰራዊት እጅን በማስገባት ሊፈታው ይችላል ወይ በሚል ጥያቄ ላይ ያለኝን አስተሳሰብ እገልፃለሁ፣ ቀጥሎም ከዚህ አሁን በግልፅ እየታየ ካለው ፖለቲካዊ ቀውስ እንዴት መውጣት ይቻላል በሚለው ጉዳይ ላይ የሚታየኝን ሃሳብ አቀርባለሁ፡፡ በመጨረሻም ማጠቃለያ ሃሳብ ይኖራል፡፡

      Berhe

      • Nitricc

        Ato Berhe, as usual you are slow to get things. the reason the cry baby of Egri-Mekel came up with this article is because he knows the time is up and most importantly he is trying to protect his investment. he owns Raya-beer company and he billionaire. he doesn’t give a hoot about Ethiopia and Ethiopians but he knows that if TPLF is to be overthrown by popular and popular rage, he knows his bloody investment is gone. How many generals do you know who owns a beer brewing company? where did he get the money? where was he to write such article at this time? i know you are slow but trying to help you. you know like Eritrea is participating in the olympic with the first Eritrean female cyclist? come-on man!

        • Berhe Y

          Hi Nitricc,

          I know I am slow on a lot of Ethiopian internal matters. Thanks for the Eritrean women cyclist reminder, it’s great honor.

          I don’t know much about the general private ventures but a quick search on Google found his CV.

          And according to that he retired in2001 and he did his masters and MBA and currently works as advisor for SPLA or something.

          Going back to what you said he owns beer factory and that he is a billionaire. Why can’t you see him own a beer factory or any other factory for that matter?

          I know your rational is very simplistic, he was a general and public servant so how can he afford? It’s a good question if he was still public servant but according to his Cv he left 15 years ago. Does one need to save every penny to open a factory.

          You know there is a thing called Loan, where he may have presented a sound business plan and asked a loan from the banks or international banks. They may have given him the loan based on his credit, education and a sound business plan. Again I don’t know the details but the mare fact that he owns a factory it does not make automatic that he embazzeled money or that he is corrupt.

          Let’s look at current Ethiopian General Philipos. He is still serving but it’s believed he makes in excess of 200k a day collecting bribes, because he has security agents who go out and arrest people with money for no good reason. He also owns many farms and fruit and vegetable gardens where he used free slave labour of sawa recruits to work on his fields.

          I think you are super slow about Eritrean internal politics.

          Adia gedifa HatnoA tinafiQ.

          Berhe

          • Abi

            Hi Berhe
            Slow down, will ya
            General Philipos is not an Ethiopian.
            Yejib chikul qend yineksal
            Take it easy.

          • Berhe Y

            Thanks Abi. I changed it.

    • Nitricc

      My deer Hayat Adam; i really do understand your pain and your source of pain is putting every faith on TPLF and Melles. what you don’t know is TPLF died with Melles. the END! what you see right now is Ethiopia with out a leader. And every one is in a confusion state. Bereket went to Gondar and he was told to mind his own Banda self. Tekle-sembet; Amara State chairman to mind his Tigray azz and the Amara are on and going strong. and my Gojjam people are on and are saying ale-genna!
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUcUoAmRExk

      • Peace!

        Dear Nitric,

        What’s even more frustrating for Hayat is that she is not getting updates on time as the regime continues to interrupt the internet to clean up dead bodies from all over streets. Hope she gets it by now that the people are determined and will never look back.

        Peace!

    • Yoty Topy

      Hi Hayat,
      What I would like to know is who are – these , his go-to-go TPLF guys , that he seems to be fond of refererncing when ever the issue of miscourage of justice on Tigray is raised. This reminds me of DJT’s comment of ‘ Where is My African-American guy?’ pointing to the only black guy in the crowd. While I think that TPLF runs a tight ship amongst the populous, if I were to guess , I belive it garners close to 99.1 % support from Tigray people. I could be wrong.

      • blink

        Dear Topy

        No actually current TPLF are afraid of tigrai people that is the reason they in prison Arena and other groups to the state of death.

        • Yoty Topy

          Hi Blink,
          I strongly doubt that . By all measure , judging from the peace and progress they managed to enjoy over the past two and half decades, and the fact that ethnic politics dictates the order of the day , those numbers would not be the case of overstating the close ties. No doubt , most belive that it needs to do a lot to root out corruption and listen more to their issue , but will still vote for their flag bearer organization.

          But, like everything else I understand we only listen to our own tunes so your view come as a no surprise 🙂

          May be we can discuss whether Eucalyptus ought to be wiped out from our region . What say mate :)?

          • blink

            Dear Topy
            All my Ethiopian friends are from Amhara , it is just by chance but when we debate the Ethnic politics of EPRDF , they all state that poverty in tigrai is also dire , it is the EFFORT group who control every thing in tigrai and they are very few Topy. So i would not blame them if they choose new TPLF but they do not have any choice . I really also do not believe that TPLF is good for tigrai

          • Yoty Topy

            Dearest Blink,

            Who isn’t poor in Ethiopia ? Show me one and I will show you millions people who are struggling daily to make ends meet . But that’s hardly a judgment on the shortcoming of TPLF’s to fulfill its mandate. Is it ? Rather a function of centuries long political culture of neglect and incompetence to deliver basic services to the people.

            But I do understand where you are coming from. I think as always is the case with you and your friends, it is viewed from th point of ‘winner takes it all ‘ vantage.i.e they fought hard during the struggle to and they have everything . Am I right ? No , it doesn’t work like that. Rebuilding a meltingpot nation of 80+ ethnic groups requires the art of compromise and ‘give and take’ . So, Yea, sorry to disappoint you that all eggs have not been thrown into the Tigray basket:)

            As for your sources ,congras on securing your own muse of ‘ My African-American ‘ kind of Amaras to illuminate you on the ‘struggle’ of the Tigray people. Why would they want to stretch the truth ? I am sure they had nothing but pure intentions when you confided in them 🙂

          • blink

            Dear Topy
            You are being unfair to me. Is it possible to blame every tigrai person for doing nothing now ? by the way i am not like these people who look for winners to take it all. Ethiopia is a big nation and it can not be ruled by a fraction of its people. for a fact any leader in Ethiopia should have been either Oromo or Amhara, if in case of Ethnicity laboratory of EPRDF to work. Ethnicity based democracy is dead when it was constructed. This fundamental failure of EPRDF is the only reason for its dooms day.

          • Yoty Topy

            Dear Blink,
            But, what is really behind that sentiment i.e Tigray people have not been well served by TPLF? It couldn’t be the fact that they have peace after decades of wars? Or the number of record primary,secondary and higher education enrollees ?Could it be the massive level of public infrastructure being undertaking throughout the region ? Or may be the biggest energy windfarms in the continent ? How about mthe massive efforts of land rehabilitation and reclamation ?No, if you are judging their success on those criteria , you would come to a reasonable conclusion that , the Tigray people have benefited greatly and equally as their other Ethiopian compatriots from this experiment. Now, if you are off the belief that because most of the burden of war was shouldered by them and they should get everything , then by that criteria yes they have failed them.

            However , where I am in full agreement with you is-on your point that EPRDF needs to do away with the ethnic based political configuration.

      • Hayat Adem

        Yes Yoty,
        My general feeling about Weyane is the number the democracy cells they carry in their body increase as you move southwards. The more you travel north, they resemble PFDJ in many ways, becoming almost PFDJ in the border areas. AG is from Axum. He lives in Addis. But his mom and dad and some younger siblings live in Axum. They have one big truck to suport their family. During the war 1998-2000, the truck was being used by the ENDF for 11 months non-stop. Every private auto that was deployed to the war front was earning double rent justfying it to the high risk deployment area. All trucks taken from owners in Tigray were provided to the military through the Tigray state headed then by Gebru Asrat. When the owners from the region asked for the same payment, they were denied. No double priced compensation, no regular price compensation. Gebru said, “people are paying their lives and you are asking us for money”. AG left Ethiopia later and he is so bitter about. He sees no distinction between TPLF and PFDJ. He has so many things to say by way of example. In those times, many young Ethiopianx were volunteering to be recruited to join the army. In some places, there were more volunteers than asked for. In Tigray, it was different. Many youngsters were fleeing Tigray to the center. And then, their parents, including mothers were being prisoned and paying 2 birr per night as a prison lease. This was to force back those who fled. AG has a long list of names as victims he mentions that had to survive such abuses. In 2013, there were a bitter fight between muslims that reside in Adigrat and the adminstration of the city that grew to be state wide confŕontation. Acccording to AG, the state and the federal government wanted major expansion on the main highway that passes to Zalanbessa and the Asmara. Incidentaĺly, either to the right or to the left of the road lies a muslim cemetery. Muslims resisted that the expansion should never touch the grave park. The state mapped a big part of the expansion to the area and proposed a relocation of the cemetry. According to AG, three people died, and many ended up jailed in that confrontation. Eventually, the state prevailed and the expansion was done and the cemetry relocated. As reecently as this last May, the people of Ambasenayt demnaded so many bold changesin their Wereda: that the seat of the capital be relocated, that they people they elected to the parliament be called back and replaced, that governance be reformed. When TPLF refused to address their issues, they threatened to organize a demonstration. Tplf warned them to stop. They refused to stop. Three TPLF çcmembers were deployed to discuss the issue and preempt the demo. AG has names of the 3 CCs that were given this assignment. They discussed with the organizers of the community. The community leaders were not satisfied with the response they get from the political leaders and threatened to go ahead with the protesting demo. The leaders were so furious and tried everything to blackmail the organizers. They said, they will disarm every militia in the community, they said they will send police to stop the demonstration, they said they will be handing out safetynet grains(it is drougth hit area), they said whoever comes to the demo was riisking his or her life….nothing seemed to have worked to convince the organizers to drop. Sunday came, thousands of people were out protesting their adminstrators and demanding rights. AG says, among the slogans were “This TPLF is not ourrs; we recalled our representatives in the regional and federal gvt, we want to electe new ones, tplf and the people are parting ways etc. These event was covered by some media including VOA. The organizers were smart, according to AG, that they asked every demo participant to come without guns and holding green leaves to avoid violence. At the end of the demo, they asked for any gov representative to take their message. No one appeared. One organizer said, it has been years since TPLF care for people’s concerns. They gave food and drinks to the police and security who were in the area and thanked them for maintaining the safety. AG has many examples. Meqele residents had demonistrated in opposition of the late patriarch and also in opposition of the highly extractive taxing system in the region. One slogan ran”do you want us to destroypublic buses and places so that you can hear us”. AG told me he liked that slogan because it showed that the government, especially, thevTig gov, has become deaf to feel problems before people become more agitated and violent. AG says, people in the center and other parts don’t hear these things because they never care to tune, because they think they don’t exist. ÀG actually thinks TPLF and Tigray state are 10 times (pfdj level) oppressive than EPRDF and the other regional states. AG saysit makes it double painful when others think as if there is a better world out there while it is worse. Worse because of three conditions, according to AG. The state capacity to oppress is more in Tigray than anywhere in Ethiopia; the attention given to this region by the opposition and neutral bodies is less; Tigreans pain internally thinking of the bad alternative and less beleivability of their complaint about being wronged more. And then bad politicians badmouth Tigreans and then pfdj bad mouths Tigreans and then Tplf acts as the only savior for the lean on. If others would show sympathy first, they would immediately getthe ears of Tigreans, according to AG, instead of trying to blackmail them that they would come at them if they don’t show their support to the other now. But of all the issues, AG says, it is difficult to explain to others that compared to waht is tplf to Tigray, eprdf is angel to others. I asked AG what Abi shared with us yesterday about the preferential treatment of Tigray with many universities and infrastructure. AG said: there are only 9% (3 of the 34) of the universities in Tigray. Of the total colleges in Ethiopia only 2.5% of them are inTigray. Universities and colleges understandably are in more concentration in Addis, Amara and Oromia. Tigray region did great inexpanding

    • Mahmud Saleh

      Dear Hayat

      Now you are back to your cool self. Don’t worry, Gen. Nit will be put on “standby” alert level (Eh, it’s just a joke). Your highness, abi is also trying to dethrone you, I see that coming ( aqTachaw mastekakel yeshelal).

      1. TsadKan is abreast of the danger looming in the horizon. The lead sentences in the quote BerheY gave you, taken from the introduction of the article, tell you the seriousness of the matter the writer is grappling with(one of the founders of TPLF and previous Chief Of Staff of the ENDF). One of the sentences being ከዚህ ቀጥሎ የትግራይ ህዝብ አሁን ባለው የኢትዮጵያ ፖለቲካ ውስጥ ራሱን ምን ዓይነት ቦታ ላይ ያስቀምጣል የሚለውን ጥያቄ በማንሳት አስተያየቴን አስቀምጣለሁ. Anyway, one would ask why would he single out the Tigrean people? He deals this point in detail, basically stating that Tigreans are hated even in the midland. He states that the current MO is not sustainable and for real democratic practice. Many Tigrean intellectuals are calling for immediate remedy. I had a page long Hateta, but I think it is not necessary.
      2. Samora: Agree
      3. Not really. You sat on hot potato on your own volition. You called a mass of demonstrators as crazy…and as if setup by Eritrea and Egypt while merely reminding the government to be gentle. That’s what compelled me to reply. I take it as a half-hearted position, something like “fesheK enabelki lbom teAzebyom” thing. It’s my hope you come out of this issue clean and consistent. One sentence would really help you. And that’s what wedi-Saleh said that you found “fascistic”!!!!!!!!! That sentence reads: The Tigrean people are going to pay heavily unless the government makes a genuine political solution. That’s what Generals Abebe and Tsadkan said. That’s what many concerned Tigrean intellectuals are saying.
      4. Good point. Regardless of the “why” which I and may others know (that’s political greediness, a farcical show of democracy to trick donors…), at least we should agree on the “should be”.
      5. I agree my friend. That is unequivocal and the strongest condemnation I have read from you to date.
      6. I accept your explanation. Dear Hayat, believe me, I’ve learned not to trust authorities. The best you could do is reaching out to friends whose judgement you trust, checking out international bodies and independent Ethiopian sources. I understand you like to see stable Ethiopia, I do too. I think that’s why people like Gen. Abebe and Tsadkan and the rest of Ethiopians are calling on the government to do the right thing. All I see are well organized and disciplined peaceful demonstrations. Most of the ransacking and the destructions of property are in reaction to police r government officials’ responses. As you well know such huge demonstrations do unfortunately result in property damages and loss of life even in countrues with well developed riot control mechanism. Therefore, the solution is political not police force.
      7. I accept. I don’t know you as a public figure, so I should not press you to give the government advices I see acceptable.
      Lastly: No need to your last accusations. Because I commented on each of the topics you mentioned. I don’t beg you to recant your assessment about me. It is yours and you have the right to see me the way you choose to. That’s on personal level. But if you are insisting you must press on it. My disqus account is open. Find out evidences that I support the government and let me know. Please be specific. Just to make it easier for you, I’m not going to ride emotions. Eritrea is a state. Anything that concerns Eritrea in relation to regional and international issues stands as an ERITREAN, not as PFDJ or IA. When you say IA and Egypt, you are telling me Eritrea and Egypt, because like it or not, IA is the current man recognized to make deals on behalf of Eritrea. OK. I know you like treating Eritrea as another province of Ethiopia or if you are in a better mood, you may think of it as a backyard of Ethiopia. So, my friend that’s the short story. It’s not a must that I understand development the way you understand them. Anyway, I don’t want to go to byways, but I assure you that I’m very confident of my positions. I’m still around the equator (haha…your description). There are the two signposts that help me navigate my way, the wayanay and PFDJ signposts. There are many Eritreans, many, and many possibilities for the betterment of Eritrea in between the two signposts.
      Regards.

      • Abi

        Hi Vet
        I am glad to know at least Gen Tsadkan is awake. He said ” they are hated by the midlands”. It took him 25 years to notice. Hey, better late than never!
        I hope things will get better soon.
        Where do I find the copy of Tsadkan’s paper?

        • Mahmud Saleh

          selam abi
          I hope so, I hope the loss of life and damage of property stops. That will happen only when the government listens to the people. I really appreciate the organizers of the demos, you hear them clearly stating that Tigrean people are not their enemies. You hear and read that the Amaras extending solidarity with the Oromos. On the contrary, it is the Tigray administration organized counter demonstration that shows violent fervor as shown on the ESAT compiled youtube clip that Nitrickay posted for Hayat a couple of days ago. I believe the questions are of deep political nature that have been sidelined for the past twenty five years. I really believe indirectly the ethnic-based federal structure is being challenged. General Tsadkan covers many issues but at the core are deep structural questions. He questions whether the government genuinely worked to embrace the democratic spirit of the constitution. Anyway, here is the link, you can read the article. I think you will find it helpful.
          http://goo.gl/WCP4ht
          Regards.

          • Abi

            Hi Vet
            Thanks for the good wish. It is really serious. I’m skimming the General’s well written paper. You can definitely see he is genuinely worried. He is worried for Tigry, he is more worried to Ethiopia. It looks like he is already disassociated himself from EPRDF. At least that is my understanding. In his conclusion remarks he said the problem is ” systemic ” and not easy to solve. He also believes we can solve this together. At one point he even call for a new constitution if there is a need. ( he is talking Sir neqel lewT).
            Ok, l will read it again tomorrow. I mean read it properly.
            Thanks.
            Hey, did you hear they found a whale in Rio swimming pool? Yes, they found a pregnant whale.

          • Dear Abi,

            I skimmed through the translation of general Tsadkan’s article last night, and I plan to read it again. He seems to have understood the core problem of EPRDF at the center of which is of course TPLF, and also the major predicaments Ethiopia will face if EPRDF/TPLF continues business as usual. He has put the problem of Ethiopia at the door of TPLF, and he is telling the people of Tigray to choose between the elitist party of TPLF and Ethiopia, which Tigray is its foundation. It is unfortunate that there are some in the TPLF who condemn his genuine and heatfelt assessment of the situation. Time will show if TPLF will heed this wake-up call or continue to live in its nirvana. When it wakes up due to the jolt it will feel, then, it might be too late. He opened our eyes to the painful reality that during the last 25 yrs, the Ethiopian reality was a refined form of dictatorship that has perfected the principle of the carrot and the stick. If TPLF is blind to the fact that due to its greed and arrogance it is bringing the innocent people of Tigray between a rock and a hard place, and chaos to Ethiopia, both the reality and history will condemn it without mercy.

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Selam abi and Horizon
            I did not see the swimmer, or his clip, but he was discussed in VOA Tigrigna. The commentators were nice and sympathetic to him. They put the blame on the committee. They said that the International Olympics committee sometimes gives chances (gender related or countries which need a bit of help) to put forward athletes who otherwise would not qualify (something like affirmative gesture/action). They also raised the possibility that corruption might have played a role (he was rumored to e the son of the president of the National Committee). At any rate, I wish the best for the rest of the athletes. For both of you, here is also General Abebe’s assessments.
            http://goo.gl/zggFR8
            The point here is not that I’m becoming particularly aggressive on EPRDF/TPLF, but when I started a genuine and restrained discussion, I was attacked. Justice knows no if and buts, it knows no boundary. I know the situation in my country and I’m not by any means implying the problem is limited to Ethiopia. But the thread started and when we discuss the people of Gondar and the rest of the situation, the center should be the people being discussed.

          • Solomon

            Selamat Abi and MaHmooday,

            With the disqus, Twitter, infinite websites and network channels, there is rather a convoluted yet progressive marketing schemes for the attention of the consumers attention such as our Ethiopian Swimmer to highlight the social issue of Ethiopia’s drought and possibly immenent famin. In this case, our poster boy ‘Whale’ Olympian swimmer, is will be utilized very shortly for Irony/Contrast to appeal for the kind hearted and blessed individual donor. The otherbl huge obstacle the Ethiopian gov’t is facing per Mr. Kim Hanna. Did you guys notice the diving pool mysteriously turning green from clear blue overnight?
            tSAtSE

      • Hayat Adem

        Mahmuday (PM),
        I will only address the one most important thing in your latest reply. The one thing that scare me more than death* is the possibility of being dethroned by Abi. Once queen, forever queen. That comes first. If Abi thinks I should adjust up or down my views to remain a queen, I will do that without ifs and buts. I just make sure my status inside Abi stays good. Everything else is adjustable.
        ———-
        * speaking of death, i have a philosopher friend who says “never be afraid of an enemy that you will never meet. We all have zero chance of meeting death. When alive, there is no death. When dead, we are not alive to witness or suffer death. One is in, the other is out. It never comes in blend. So why fear death while there is absolutely no chnace of crossing paths with it at all?”.

  • Solomon

    Dear AT,

    I asked politely, Twice I shall not be bitten. Now as Saay7 always advised, I will allow for heads to cool! But a fair and square deduction yet conciliatory for the greater good!!!
    As Spike Lee would say: “Do The Right Thing!” Unless my good friend Guliani the DA and a few of “Friends of Ours” are in need of summoning for such a tiny transgression of our Billoardo amico tuyo y mio. “Da dove ti, paizan?” Asmara? Some iyo da Barks Abay! Casa di Mo paise padridimo grand Teseney, Barks Abay beAlti Tebay.
    Un piccolo Melodramatico adds to our readers attention focus!
    Alora segnires, ci vediamo, CIO.
    The Amount Ancora dobio.
    Andiamo.
    tSAtSE

    • Thomas D

      Hi Solomon,

      Here you as usual, I cannot comprehend anything from your above text. Hahahaha:) Is it me that I sometimes loose you?

      • Solomon

        Dude!
        Eat me! You ain’t gotta understand it. Its a Black Thang! Sight.
        Now kiss my black shinny azz!
        You ain’t cracking no whip.this way boyyy!
        You wanna get expossed nakef next, you ain’ t worth mine or my people’s time!
        GitSAtSE

        • Thomas D

          HI Sol,

          That is what I am talking about, like that is going to get you a job old man:)

          • Solomon

            Who told you I needed a job and work for some one else.. Save it dude or create any obstacle you desire in my path….But humbly with Help From Above and the Almighty’s Will I will work to benefit the multitude in my own pace and the good Lords perceived time. So rather than getting butt hurt and delving into presumptiond , you are more than welcome to get down and PARTNER UP! PATNER!!!
            My next much cooler post, will be on Gain and Losses as well as Market expansions directed to My YPFDJ and Non Y PFDJ AmEritrean GitSATSE…
            The Modler has just began…call it potential energy ready to be Kinnettttficcc you guessed it:
            Luda: “When I move you move! Just just like that.” So wachu say white boy, you gonna play soma DAT funky music ….Green Patna!
            Xaxe

          • Thomas D

            Hi Selie,

            Aren’t you a bit old to use those kinda vocabulary? Seriously, am I talking with a teen or what? I think fire age is catching up with you:) They say it hurts when it comes late:)

  • Hayat Adem

    The Wise Solomon,
    You are the only person I like here without understanding you. I tried to understand your thoughts but to only end up more confused. But, believe me (like Trump would say, I am not the enemy to fight against. You don’t need any war with me.

  • Thomas D

    Dear Ethiopians,

    You probably need to learn that you might lose mama Ethiopia if you:
    1) if you cannot identify the kinds of eritrean like that of Mr. Salih, Nitricc, hope, bleak, semere T, & some of the same writing as guests. These people are just here to support the criminal regime in Eritrea. If you cannot learn from us Eritrean, you are doomed to fail & see your beloved nation turn into chaos similar somalia. The people I mentioned and their ruthless leader are trying to push towards that. These people are so narrow minded that they do not even for their own underage kids who running away from their country to become refuge in your country ethiopia. How can you expect advice from these heartless criminals? Their main goal to see the somalia like Ethiopia? I know where Ethiopia was in the 90’s & I have seen where Ethiopia is now, You should never aim to go backward & that is you need to identify who your real enemy is. Wiseup people!!

    • blink

      Dear Thomas
      You are a very wise man , how long does it take to know and blame all these on your list to be the enemies of Ethiopia.

      • Nitricc

        Hey blink leave my friend thomas the white boy; Thomas the toothless Asmara University grad; Thomas the drinking contest organizer; Thomas the half Tigrian, alone. obviously Thomas is not only organizes drinking contest but he must be the champion on that to think ”M. Salih, Nitricc, hope, bleak, semere T, peace”” can call and organize such demonstration all over Ethiopia. Blink take easy on my good friend Thomas the white boy.

    • Peace!

      Hi Thomas,

      Welcome back!! I thought you would never come back given you were outraged and accused this website for not being fearless. Anyways, I really don’t know why you include me in the above nonsense list that obviously consuming your valueble time for nothing. What the Ethiopians doing is simply standing for their freedom and looted land which have been snatched by TPLF for twenty-five years, and they are determined and ready to pay whatever it takes: no joke, no paltalk, no smerrr 1, smerr 2….In contrary, assuming you are Eritrean, your helpless people are silent and taking every day PFDJ’s merciless killing, brutality, robbery…you name it. Instead of sounding hypocrite you should learn how to rise up and stand for your right from our Ethiopian brothers and sisters.

      Peace!

      • Thomas D

        Hey Peace,

        Spys like yourself spread throughout website we cannot do our job as quick ad possibe. Look at yourself, you support the criminals running the country. Why are so scared not to even use your real name. Listen, you should be ashamed of yourself to say you oppose the regime. Who are you trying to fool here?? We know your true color, don’t even think we don’t know what you stand for!! You are just a spy of the mafias. Just count your days!!

        • Peace!

          Selam Thomas,

          Name calling is not an argument nor a proper response but rather wast of valuable time. What you don’t seem to get it that the fact is PFDJ and TPLF are flip side of the same coin. Please don’t buy the rethorics on cypher-space and PFDJ’s mouth pieces: they are both brutal and are in a secret mission. Lets just hope the demise of TPLF will lead to fall of PFDJ. Now, if you insist to run a background check, here is my social security 00-00-0000.

          Peace!

          • blink

            Dear peace
            Can you imagine , he said “we could not do our work” wink wink , what kind of work is he going to perform? i think he is feeling important. That amused me to death. Can you imagine a product of hypocrite, who choose to give deaf ear to justice seekers in Ethiopia.

          • Peace!

            Selam Blink,

            That’s the problem with “some of our justice seekers” they preach, preach, and preach for justice only when fits their false hope. It is disgusting that in the name of justice: they trashed our history, disrespected our martyrs, undermined our living heros, demonized our mothers as if the country and people are their enemy. Can some body tell them opposing PFDJ and believing in a country called ERITREA are two different things? Well, their record speaks for itself: no single follower. EMPTY!!

            Peace!

          • blink

            Dear Peace
            I mean minus some people , they all lack principle and vision . Still they are in disarray, no one care what happen to the first political opposition group and its work is the same like the newest one . Once they started insulting the basic of Eritrea ,they lost the war . And with that Eritreans are paying heavy price under this 21 century hitler in asmara. It is a very painful time to be Eritrean and even joked by a somali politician as well as get lectured by HYPOCRITES who loves EPRDF than his own country.

            Can you sense the people who talk and write too many lines per comment are absent these days ? even the one Hayat is just going back and forth with too much dead fish ideas telling us DIA and egypt are the cause. But i really do not believe Thomas is Justice seeker , i really do not.

          • Peace!

            Selam Blink,

            Blaming DIA and Egypt for the unrest is clearly undermining the intelligence of Ethiopians whom have spoken loud and clear but TPLF continues to egnore their demand and now they see no other option but to take it into the streets. The ongoing unrest is the direct result of TPLF’s oppressive ethnic politics: TPLF controls the Economy, Military, Legislative, Courts, judges, and wins election every five years by 100%. If this is not a joke then the term has no meaning.

            Peace!

          • Thomas D

            Hi Peace,

            For sure, the demise of PFDJ is not going to be long. The sad think is it will be prolonged now because their main enemies, the TPLF, are having upraising problems. As far as I know, the Ethiopians are heading to a major problem after the demise of EPRDF. The EPRDF I think has been the engine in boasting the economy of Ethiopia. All those advancement that Ethiopia have demonstrated is credited to the well crafted EPRDF foreign policy. They have successfully re-introduced Ethiopia to the world class and they have kept a 2 digits growth almost throughout their time in power. I think they might end up choosing between backwardness with the pronouncement racist agenda/division that will end up destroying their nation and the vast economic that was for the first time seen since the outset of the derg regime.

            As far as EPRDF and PFDJ is concerned, the EPRDF was the nightmare of PFDJ. Of course, if EPRDF party is gone, the PFDJ will get to celebrate until the Amhara or Oromo group started governing Ethiopia. I am sure the Ethiopians as usual will start talking about retaking Asab and ato DIA will again back the opposition in Tigray. So, the going to the same circle will kick up again. Unfortunately, we will see the same circle, I am sure you guys will start telling us that the Tigrians are our brothers and sisters and all…. It is absurd but real though!

          • Peace!

            Selam Thomas,

            When it comes to change we should believe in our people, not anyone else. Only a united Eritrean people can defeat PFDJ otherwise flirting for intervention has so far produced nothing positive other than pushing the opposition camp to fall into fall into disarray.

            As for the progress made in Ethiopia, the problem is the foundation is not good enough to sustain growth. In the early nineteenth, even PFDJ scored double digit growth, but for the same reason, it is now in a double negative digit. Therfore, what counts a sustainable change, not just naked and meaningless change.

            Peace!

          • Abi

            Hi Tommy
            Chewata chemrehal. At this rate, you will be on Comedy Central before the end of the year.
            Nobody is denying the progress achieved under EPRDF. What people are saying is ” Ahunis Abezachihut”, “yebey temelkach atargun “, Ethiopia lehulum tibeqalech”, ” tekaflen enbla “, ” abren endeg “….
            CHEWANET MOGNINET aydelem.
            Is it too much to ask?

          • Thomas D

            Hi Abi,

            If you are talking about power sharing, I am with you. However, the way ethiopia is heading economically is something I would wish for my own country. You see that is the only reason I am objecting the kinds of Nitricc because they are really obstructionists. They are not afraid to support the most brutal dictator who have almost the entire Eritrean youth to migrate or those who resisted to migrate become slaves ready to serve the mafias. You need to wise up and tell these people to mind their businesses. They don’t care about Ethiopians or Eritreans, all they are doing is to save their master, the dicator and his “yes sir people”.

          • Abi

            Hi Tommy
            The people are asking power sharing, economic Sharing, dignity, opportunities, …
            In other words people are demanding equitable distribution of opportunities and challenges. Take time and read Gen Tsadkan’s paper.
            I don’t understand why you bring Nitricc and peace here?
            Corruption, cronyism, nepotism,..is what people are fighting.

          • Thomas D

            Hey Abi,

            Good luck with that, Mr. Abi:)

          • Abi

            Tommy
            It is Ras Abi.
            It is not impossible compared with creating USE.

          • Thomas D

            Abi,

            OK, rasun berasu “Ras Abi” bilo yemitera sew:) This reminds me before Eritrean independence, Mengie trying to send a message used to say “Rasun Berasu Shaebia bilo yemitera sew”:)

          • Abi

            Tommy
            Erasen berase ,begeza milase
            KalanqolaPelaTeskut ma yanqolaPelaTisilignal?
            Ras Abi.

          • Thomas D

            Hi Abi,

            I got the one which started with Erasen Berase, but I tried to read the other one which went with “KalanqolaPelaTeskut ma yanqolaPelaTisilignal”, I am not able to get it. I think it does not have meaning. You just did that to get me lost:(

          • Abi

            Tommy
            Wendmen!
            ManqolePaPes means mamokashet.

          • Thomas D

            Ras Abi,

            Mamokashet means chewing or is it belittling? Sorry, I am not nitricc that I have to get to the bottom of everything. I still do not know what that means. You can writing the meaning in English I guess. Of course, the quality will not be the same, but better something than nothing as they say:)

          • Nitricc

            Hey Thomas what are you drinking man? lol TPLF is the cancer that poisoning every thing. once TPLF is gone; Eritrea will sit down and talk with real Ethiopians. The badime issue will be solved; the real Ethiopians will have no issue respecting the rule of law and implementing the internationally rendered verdict. Eritrea in turn will agree a full use of ports and all out healthy and mutual relations with Ethiopia. the only evil force standing between this two people is TPLF. once TPLF is gone; peace shall be upon us. TPLF destroyed Eritreans. TPLF destroyed the Amara. TPLF destroyed the Oromo and finally and sadly TPLF will destroy the people of Tigray.

          • Thomas D

            What do you know, Nitricc? You know nothing except hate speech! If you had a mind like a normal person, you would have prioritized the country you seem to say you belong to? Who is going to buy what you say here? You have lost a complete morality? You don’t know the real Eritreans let along to know who the real Ethiopian are or whatever that means. To me, you only come here with one agenda and that is to protect the dying dictator, DIA, period!!

      • blink

        Dear peace ,
        Thomas is having bad time and we should let him get air.

        • Peace!

          Hi Blink,

          Thomas is fearless on name calling and arguing for nothing. I rather let Nitric handle him from now on:)

          Peace!

          • blink

            Dear Peace
            Yes he is fearless and who can blame him , this time is very very bad time for people like him

          • Peace!

            Hi Blink,

            Very true! I just can’t believe the outright hypocrisy: on one hand they pretend to be justice seekers and on the other hand they oppose people seeking justice. No wonder…,:)

            Peace!

  • Muhammad

    Salam all,

    Fanco hits back at Tesfazion after so long silence. Welcome Fanco, you’re the man.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QXyhyApkjA

    • A.Osman

      Hi Muhammed,

      I remember fanco from 2003 when I used to frequent Paltalk, it has been long time since I heard this elequent gentleman and it is good that he is live and kicking. This particular message, however, I found it quite strong and not the fanco that I remember. I understand his target is Eyob/Tesfasion and bigots like him, maybe a message to neutralise him, but it will hurt more than the expected audience and will only help popularise this loose canon giving him more oxigen to spew his hatred.

      Regards
      AOsman

      • Berhe Y

        Dear MS and AO,

        Thank you for sharing. I had a chance to listen to Fanco. I didn’t listen to Tesfazion except few. I think the message is clear, and I am glad he said it. At times, I felt that he was generalizing

        • Thomas D

          Hi Berhe,

          Should we really give ample to respond to people who are being frustrated by our present situation and they go their ways of saying things that sometimes question our gedli? Why should we worry too much that talks of that sort is to change? Are we so in-confident that what we have earned/our independence can just blown like a wind like that? I think some people are just living in the pre-independence time and they will not get to see that our country is a sovereign nation and nothing individuals say or do is going to change that. Moreover, it is a free world that people are entitled to their own opinions that they cannot be hated for exercising their God given opinions on any issue.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Thomas D.,

            No we should worry too much what individuals say, but if they are spreading lies that creates division and animosity then their message needs to be challenged. In his case this guy is NOT anyone that can threaten our union but, as Yaqoub pointed out, his message to to those others who are supporting him so his ideas to take root (the Nihnan Elamanan) people.

            Now for example, you proposal is wild and I don’t know if it will ever have any merit. Let me ask you this, do you know any country and region that got integrated like that since WWII? I don’t know any and I doubt it will ever be the case. Having open boarder (freedom of movement) and having integrated free market, is all nice and good. But when it comes real series matter, like education, currency, tax collections, passport / travel etc.. for good or bad, you can’t just draw the lines arbitrary and give people the choice to go where ever they want. You have to define the boarder, and that’s it (at least the external boarder).

            I said this before, and here to repeat again…let’s get our union working first, let’s have a normal country called Eritrea (as it’s currently defined at the UN) and let the people of this country find our own peace. Then we we can deal with other complicated matters that give us little value (in my opinion) compared to the headache they will bring us at the moment.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hi Berhe
            How is your Olympic team doing?
            Our Swimming team representative Ato spongy rubber duck got us the first embarrassment medal.
            He just proved Archemedes principles of ” buoyancy”. This person can not sink.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            That was really funny, you just responded to what I was thinking.

            Daniel Teklehaimanot finished the race and he come 43rd (6:29) it’s extricating distance.

            Honestly I really don’t know who and how many Eritrea are sending. There were not in the opening ceremony. I think the only hopeful athlete who may have a chance at wining medal is Ghirmay Ghebreslassie and I don’t know what Zersenay Tadese is going to participate in.

            Berhe

          • Nitricc

            Hey ABI, according a twits, the fat boy not only a son of weyane Tigray but

            ” According to sport journalist Konjit Teshome, Robel Kiros Habte aka the Whale is the son of Ethiopian swimming federation president.”

          • Abi

            Hi General
            So this president sent his over sized and under achieving son to Olympics?
            Imagine what is happening in other sectors of the economy, military, security, scholarships, promotions, budget allocations, investment……
            God help us.

          • blink

            Dear Abi
            I am sure there are far better swimmers in Ethiopia than this man , and i do not understand why the coach or the committee choose this man. Look at his belly ,This is first time some one embarrassed the nation of great athletes.

          • Abi

            Hi blink
            This borcham is on paid vacation. His well connected father sent him to Rio for swimming knowing that his fluffy son never sinks.
            Maferya!

          • blink

            Dear Abi
            when i saw Ethiopian flag on the trails of swimming and I told my friends i will just root for the Ethiopian swimmer and they said oh , ja ” this is not marathon or 3000m running” and when the action is done , i could not speak even a word. He must not return to Ethiopia .Have you seen his big belly ??

          • Abi

            Hi blink
            No, I can’t see the whale belly. My screen is small.

          • blink

            Dear Abi
            Oh ,my god .

          • Amde

            Blink and Abi,

            Actually it is debatable whether there are better swimmers in Ethiopia. At least any that have been rated against “olympic” times. The dude was just out there to have a good time.

            Its rather irritating to think there was space for him but not for Kenenisa. That is the travesty.

            Amde

          • Abi

            Getaw
            Ayte Kiros botawun moltot
            Obo Kenenisan aswegdot
            Ebet qerto Kenenisa
            Yemiyakoran jegna Anbessa
            Asamaw meTa eyefesa
            LigelabeT ende TILIQ assa.
            Liyawarden ende ressa.

          • Amde

            Abi,

            filseta zendro minnew teqeyere
            sewu temenamno asaw teweTere
            anbessaw beqirEt bebEtu eyagesa
            badebabay taye degmo qillib asa

            Amde

          • Abi

            Hi Amdachin,
            Assaw delibo Anbessaw menminoal
            Yihenin Gud mamen mayet yaschegral
            Yeteqelebe assa hodu teweTro
            Lemayet abeqan ajeb new zendro
            Endet biTeTa nw endet bibela
            Endih teweTro borchu Gud yafela !?!?!

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Abi,

            You are taking this seriesly. Based on what I read, he was not actually qualified based on his time but few countries were invited to participate to add diversity, I suppose and apparently they must have chosen him.

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Ayte Berhe
            Seriously?
            In case you forgot he is representing a country which is well respected in the Olympics. Ethiopians are known in dominating in the Olympics competitions they participate. “We don’t go there for auditions. We go there to win.” ( I got this from America Got Talent)
            We don’t also send an out of shape , amorphous person who needs extra large flag to wrap himself in case he wins.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            What if he is the fastest swimmer in Ethiopia and if Ethiopia is invited to attend, are you suggesting that they shouldn’t have sent him.

            There are few countries who dominate Olympics, Ethiopia on long distance running. But most others are the to participate and in the hope that one day a person who is talented and drivin emerge.

            In case of Abebe Bikila (he was not the first to participate) but those who saw returning from and their uniform did motivate him.

            Who knows there will be another Ethiopian who will motivated to win on swimming because of these, if you want to see it from positive side.

            Berhe

          • Dear Berhe Y.

            He must be the fastest swimmer in Ethiopia to catch the humberger and the coca cola put on the opposite side of the swimming pool. They should use him for an advertisement.
            Just to make you smile.

            Do not try to convince Abi. He has made up his Gondere mind. It never changes.

          • Abi

            Hi Berhe , Horizon
            You can always politely decline invitations. You just don’t send someone from a bar to the Olympics just because his father is president of the Olympics committee. It shows a total disregard to all Ethiopians. This is the symptom of the ” systematic ” problem the people have been experiencing for the last 25 years.

            Horizon, I think the most important thing out of this is we showed the Eritreans that we don’t need a sea to grow a whale. I hope that makes them jealous.
            Have you noticed the water changed color after the whale passed through? Man! How much did he urinate in it?

          • Peace!

            Abish,

            Is this coming from you? Gosh yene wendem ayzoh ANd ken Massawa Aykerem:)

            Peace!

          • Thomas D

            Hi Berhe,

            We have an independent UN recognized nation now. It will be very difficulty reverse without our people re-voting/referendum again. I mean I just don’t understand to see people still living in fear. Like you said it is not 1961, people are smart no to compromise their country now. Even the little Djibouti is not threaten by occupation or colonization or reunification stuff.

            The reason for I brought, The United States of Eritrea was because I could say something and people would take me seriously, like you guys did to the Agaiazian guy. It could be just because it is my wish to see larger Eritea with more diverse people, it will be like Puerto Rico, Guam, Northern Mariana Islands, the U.S. Virgin Islands, and American Samoa. There are some others who have shown to join to……………..

          • Solomon

            Hey NbAAt HarguetSe,
            I saw you coming a mile away. Sovereign Eritrea is etched in every Eritrean and indigenous dignity and peace loving Ethiopians’ hearts for ever. Eritrea Libre is neither the Land nor People relegated to remain chained and immobile held by that several river sized stripped called the Made Rojo. The first brave African Pioneers from.the Pangea of now named Africa, ventured out exploring through that same narrow corridor Red Sea. Later due to climate they shed their melonen and became white, Assian what have you. Not to mention the free black men and women in every continent of this globe hidden from history books. All those explorers, white, black, yelliw, Red etc… crossed that very Sea in pursuit of liberty and discovery. The All Mighty God split the Red Sea open for Mosses to Lead his enslaved people to the promise land of Liberty.
            An idea or The idea liberty is eternal. Modern day Eritrea is just the latest example of countless epic struggles for liberty by man kind reminding us to Stand Up with the Righteous God guiding us for His gift of liberty to us.
            Stop the chicanary and say it like you are Black And proud. Say it loud like you are Man and proud.
            tSAtSE

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Dear AOsman,

        It is an expected response. I am glad he rebutted him eloquently. You can ‘t let it go without a response, while he is undermining and denigrating half our population. These damn individuals are fighting against what makes us an Eritrean. Without exposing these racists and fanatics, we can not weave the thread of unity and engage for the badly needed trust building.

        regards,
        Amanuel Hidrat

    • Solomon

      Dear Muhammad,

      I have to be honest that I did not listen to your rebuttle towards the tSEtSErat bound insane character with his evil genius divisive “HIS-STORY” same as I didn’t bother to click on i-SEM’s privided link of his. However, I am glad that you did give your audio/video rebuttle.

      I will also state that henthforth I will take iSEM’s literature litteraly. His earlier declaration of attaining change by any means even going to the depth of the deomns in order to utilize the devils tools, I was not expected he would actually follow through action he had readied to deploy. Any friendly person to yours truly, kindly remind me NOT to be in the same foxhole with iSEM in any real war, let alone be commanded or lead by the honorary highly ranked and decorated officers I generously bestowed upon him due to his resourcefulness and rather higher intellect capacity. Though the vacume or absent of a worthy alternative could be provided as very little and mitigating rational that would give birth to such theories we the majority dismissed as rising from insane minds, its utility by the seemingly sane minds to injected rather suttely into main stream as “the Dark Side’s’ ” only remaining option for the “Change Seekers” after it was nurcheted to garner some following in con-land is indeed not only proof of the weaknesses of rational alternatives to the hegomony of one party rule directing or commanding a war that cyclically feeds its under seige state and self prophesized. And rather than govern the state with a healthy opposing opponents that would usher far more innovations for the Eritrean people and the youth in partuclar…well you know the net effect of the very uncharacteristicaly immasculated populas and on the one hand and the equally uncharacteristic over bearing law less criminals that the circumstances created of primordial survivor of the fittest lawless ness that has grown to a monster which gives the alleged crimes against humanity some credebility though not fully innocent of the exagerations and theatrical productions. Blame that on the camera being abundant.
      Though your rebuttle is appreciated, I am certainly fearful that it may feed into the traps of opening a futile new trench that could at the very least feed apathy.
      The Eritrean resolve first dictates to yours truly, to allign with the GoE/PFDJ committed ordinary citizen supporters in bringing to light those weakening Eritrea and Eritreans due to their utter failure on being on par with the PFDJ with regards to coming up with a winning strategy and organization be it due to capacity limitations, distractions from the vast world, or simply their sinister obstructionist motives.
      Once The current Ethiopian unrest is hopefully resolved peacefully and justly, then I will be at the fore leading the honest exposing of the heavy baggage to the Justice Seekers among us starting with my declaration of TwgaH’Mo the sequel on the dishonorably dischardlched rouge “general” Mr. Semere Andom and any who attempt honest Eritrean and Ethiopian joint peoples’ progress by possing ad apologists. iSEM should learn from Nitric’s “The Usual Suspect” bait that inevitably with explosive drama knocked him out as a defected intellect, my TwgaH’Mo The sequel relentless dissection and exposing him will be abscent of any military school chicanary. Rather it will be an honest and patient paintings to the ordinary masses of the inept cadres and with their modern gadget utilities have wreaked havoc on the Eritrean if not including the Ethiopian. As well as exposing the shortcomings and shortsighted ness on “our” side of the eisle. Sharpen your pencils folks. Post COI/ICC Eritrean passing of Hamid Idriss Awate’s passing to the next Eritrean for liberty and dignity symbolic torch or Shig I am giving it this name or following phrase: TwgaH ‘Mo The Sequel / Flipping The Script!
      “When I Move You Move! Just like that.*”
      *Luda
      tSAtSE

  • Abi

    Selam YeAb Kibir
    I don’t think you understand Amharic. You missed the sarcasm.
    Kibir ena misgana leAb yihun.
    BTW, I know brothers with names
    KibreAb, HaileAb, MihireteAb.
    Beautiful names!
    I wish The Holiness all the best.
    Lehulachinim Abat nachew.

    • Kibreab

      Dear Lij Abi,

      Thank you! Somehow I missed the Sarcasm .. I am well versed
      in Amharic … “YeJib Chekul Kend Yeneksale honeNgeru” ..lol

  • Solomon

    Dear Hyatt Adam,

    While assuring you our common heart’s desires for all humanity and by stating it for both the Ethiopian and Eritrean peoples and the environs,

    I must tell you that in our cyper world, of awate forum I am declaring a war on your currently anxiety ridden initial approaches and possibly selfish selves saving approach to OUR MUTUAL CURRENT AND CLEAR PRESENT DANGER. This time, you will not dodge be able to dodge it. This catastrophic error in the making, must be stood up against before any festering takes root.
    Regards,
    Solomon Haile

    • Mahmud Saleh

      Selam Solomon
      That you said it well. All Hayat’s attempts where tripping commenters on sideway issues, shifting blames away from the government that is killing and harassing innocent people, and young students who are clearly showing up their empty hands. On the contrary you see government instigated counter demonstrations with folks brandishing AK-47s. Hayat is calling the mass agents of Egypt and shaebia!!!!!!!!!!!! And look how she as been warding off a simple and a logic advice that calls on the government to come up with a genuine political solution. Whether it’s a matter of character or a dogged political stance, Hayat is not moved by any of the ugly scenes, not even by the teen ager girl whose brain has been blown.

      • Solomon

        Dear Mo “The Best” Mo,

        As my brain is scattered all over my first and second submission now also held by disqus, you will get to read both upon their release.
        Let us also be mind full of the ever fine tunning progress of the New Modler that prioritises according to the stochastic fluidity of data cognizant of “An tSinkur Kunetat teAtSatSafnet” in postponing to the back burner my opposition and distaste of the means to attaining the long term visions of EPLFs ridged and Dictatorial, “our way or” persona non grata with the familiar sacred sacrifice of the self for state…
        “NEWMANN!” I mean “SAAY7!!!” was right when he said to.Mr. Yohans Zerai the PFDJ’s current world outlook is intellectually defensible. I may add consistent ad well to his words. Testament to the numerous battles they have scored relative victory as compared to my personal ineffective self pity thus far.
        But the War and Modler surges on Dear Mo-Mo.
        tSAtSE

  • Solomon

    Dear Forum,

    This is epic in how the pendulum has swung from.one extreme to the other, at least in our several dozen persons population of this forum.
    Now, I am part and parcel of what we all have been in the past two thirds of a decade or so. Utter hypocrites. So, I will try and make sense of this by stating unequivocally how ethnocentric or ultranationalist I have been in being affected by what I considered to be a transgression of the highest degree on human rights and only focusing of bringing to justice these transgressions only for an infinitesimal area of land as well as a very small fraction of population as compared to the sufferings that nearly a thousand times the land and population outside of Eritrea have been and are subjugated too.
    If we focus on our awate forum.world alone, the only human rights concern and vigorous efforts, both in word and deeds, that nearly all of us active contributors have pushed day in day out, has been the destruction of the oppressors and hijackers of the Eritrean liberty and the Eritrean Revolution for Liberty for the oppressed. It is as if I thought, once Eritrea’s Human and Individual Rights are restored to the idealistic standards set and declared by those who sacrificed and payed the ultimate price, then oppression and the denying of liberties to another will cease to exist in our world. I have been the ultimate hypocryt in suppressing the minority voices, irrespective of my suspicions of their motives, that have been all along stating the Eritrean perceived or narrated suspensions of human rights as and rule without law cannot be viewed in total disregard of not only the globe at large BUT also the disregard of all the Ethiopian marginalized nationalities and the dangerous road map as well as political ideology the EPLF/PFDJ’s arc nemesis the TPLF had embarked on since it’s utilization of the advantage it solidified circa mid 1990s. (….. ….. …. )
    My self and the outspoken Eritreans opposed to GoE or for Justice to Eritreans embarked on an isolationist strategy, the very crime we leveled at the so called “impermeable African North Korea”, of attaining human rights only for the Eritrean that we elevated to be the only nationals of a country subjugated to oppression like no other in the past, present or future. Speaking for my self, it was as if the same zeal for the attainment of Rights for other nationals was the other nations’ government and people’s delima and of no concern to us so long the wrongs in our own land for our own us righted. In awate forum world, entertaining the rights of possibly and more likely oppressed populations surrounding Eritrea was a taboo with the immediate reprimand of recriminations of the ” supporters” and GoE as the war mongers and interventionists desiring worst full of war and destitutions for their neighbors etc.. Etc… So, much so blocks of Nation sponsers and experts commenced on THE SECOND SIXTH OFFENSIVE to squash Eritrea’s legitimacy of self governance with opperation COI/ICC after a debilitating second war and cornering and slowing uts economy and growth to the rate and proportionally equal to that corner of the SaHil mountains of that decade long formidable trench war spanning from 1979 to 1979 withstanding offensive after offensive including the Sixth offensive detered with unforseen before as well as improbable resilience by the few that inevitably lead to Nadew and the domino effect of Fenkil then….
    And Post COI/ICC and 2nd Sixth offensive against the Nationhood of Eritrea, we are witnessing a complete reversal of fortunes in that an oppressed peoples Seventy times that of Eritrea’s population are standing up for their inallianable rights and dignity and choising not to be marginalized by the presumably self serving ideology of a few counter revolutionaries who were corrupted by greed and possibly blind vindication. So, as the Spring of 1991 witnessed some three hundred thousand strong military men strangulation of Eritrea’s people walk away in disarray given birth to an Independent Eritrea, one cannot help but draw similarities in seeing the political ideology and geopolitical strategies that had the Independent Eritrea suffocating and on the bring of non existent is similarly falling apart in disarray.
    Speaking for my self, I have been very narrow minded and guilty of self love wallowing in self pity it now seems a parent. Was it true, what I was being told as a child that no great power near or far wants the Eritrean Revolution to be a success in that the fear is the great powers of near and far own oppressed people may be inspired and RISE up and threaten the subjugators power.

    No, this is to scripted to be true. I must be hallucinating as usual AND surely what I have convinced DIA, PFDJ, and YPFDj and the Koboro Junkies MUST BE TRUE. What about the denied freedoms of press, expression, constitutional law and unlawful incarcerations of our hero’s and free citizens. Surely DIA and the PFDJ rules by intimidation
    ? Is it intimidating who then what should be asking. Well, one thing is for sure, th e Post COI/ICC Eritrea will certainly NOT be as narrow focused as the pre.
    I pray to God and all peace loving people that Ethiopians and particularly the powerful in and outside of government arrive at a peacefully politically negotiated settlement to a resolution that us equitable to all the people and one that will maintain the integrity of Ethiopia and its growth on track.
    And now, I will contemplate of the how to all my short sidedness…
    Modler on hold. No need for my movement to affect motion, FOR IT SEEMS HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE AREMOVING IN THE HORN OF AFRICA.
    With respect and empathy to all of our feelings,
    tSAtSE

  • Amde

    Abi, Hayat,

    I would amend your last point to state “Birhanu in Asmara is completely the creation of EPRDF.”

    I think EPRDF should have found a way to keep him as part of the political process after the 2005 election. He is an economist by training. He did wonders for the Ethiopian Economics Association when he was chairing it. He really energized electoral politics and was one of the few figures who gave EPRDF a fright completely through the ballot.

    As far as the war was concerned, I don’t think he himself would be
    classified as a jingoistic nationalist. He probably just reflected the
    popular mood. It is one of life’s tragedies that a man of his caliber finds himself at the beck and whim of Isayyas.

    Amde

    • Abi

      Amdachin
      I agree with you that ” go all the way to Asmara” was the popular mood in those days.

      I said “Birhanu is a creation of EPRDF ” in a sense that if he was allowed to participate in the political field, if the ruling party was not greedy, ( I mean in every aspect) he would probably be in Ethiopia contributing in his field or in any field he chooses. May be I should have said EPRDF contributed to his current actions. He and many others were pushed to the extreme by the extremists in EPRDF. I hope I’m clear now. However, his alliance with IA is unexplainable. He should have known better.

  • PTS

    Nitricc,
    And this is how real Eritreas feel. How is your Tigrigna?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iD8V-VvQw54

  • Nitricc

    Hey Abi; Genzebka! she knows she is playing with you. here.

    http://www.ginbot7.org/List_of_TPLF_Companies_Under_EFFORT.htm

  • Hayat Adem

    Honest Abi,
    I know the cruelest impact of wars is it pushes people to the border of insanity. That is why we should avoid them while we are within our sanity box. Now I want you to educate me on this: “marginalizing the majority of the people for the benefit of few”. If you are comfortable discussing it, how can this be explained in the most understandable and verifiable way? As much as you can, give examples and data to my benefit. And I wish if Horizon, KH and Amde could be part of this discussion.

    • Abi

      Hi Hayat
      Really?
      Yadebabayun misTir?

      • blink

        Dear Abi
        can we say this is a growing problem if they (EPRDF) did not move fast . Once the western media starts to say some thing about the protesters , it would be very hard to imagine what EPRDF can really do.

        http://edition.cnn.com/2016/08/09/africa/ethiopia-oromo-protest/index.html

        what ESAT and other news organization say may be exaggerated but is it possible to say all their report is tainted ?

  • Thomas D

    Hi Really,

    How do you know Birhanu is fighting for Just seeker/free and democratic ethiopia? You need to change your nick name from just seeker to violence seeker? You cannot bring justice by guns and with his DIA funding, he is there to get to power. Eventhough, you choose a cool name, your ideas are not cool. Honest, you are fighting for the opposite of justice, dictatorship/Nihna Nisu. It is that easy to identify you!

  • Lamek

    Hi Semere. I respect your opinions, articles, comments. But this time, I think you will have to do a little more thinking. This guy is not crazy. At the very least, his take on the incredibly dumb idea of ‘hade hizbi hade libi’ in other words, 9 biherat is right on the spot. Even IA and PFDJ are abandoning it quietly. I have said time and again myself that I have nothing in common with kunama or hidarib or rashaida but I see no difference between myself (a seraye kebessa native) and any Tigrayan. Unless and until you Tigrinya elites wake up, our people will continue to perish.

  • Hayat Adem

    Dear Ethiopians,
    I want to go out of my way and ask Ethiopians how they really see Birhnu Nega and his organization. Something about this guy is not real. Do you remember the document I shared with you when he was encouraging the Ethiopian government to continue war until the Eritrean army is completely wiped out and reconsider to reclaim Asseb. That was from 2000.
    “This war had to be supported fully. It is a just war. The point I want to stress here as a citizen is that Ethiopians are good when it comes to defending their country. When the nation is in a war for whatever reason, the people in the army fighting for us are our brothers and sisters and supporting them is the right thing to do. As we’ve seen it, now we are winning the war, we’re advancing decisively; we have been scoring victory after victory. The resistance we expected is nowhere close, not even half way. The Ethiopian army has shown that it is a force that can never be pushed around by unruly and bully forces of whatever. Now, after all this, what are the final goals and strategies of this war? … To that end, the Shaebia army has to be destroyed beyond revival once and for all. The 2nd issue that we need to reopen for discussion is the question of a port. Can we sustain a situation of a growing 60 million people and economy without an access to the sea? …” http://www.assimba.org/Articles/DrBerhanu_interview.pdf
    Now, this guy is getting 500k from Egypt via Eritrea every 6 month to fight for freedom and democracy in Ethiopia. He is also getting all kinds of support to in the propaganda front. My other issue is his lies and deceptions. For example, since he left Eritrea last year, I have a reasonable ground ( and I can explain that) that he never returned to Eritrea. But he is saying a lot to deceive the people as if he is leading an armed struggle.
    I know I despise him. Eritreans see him as a lackey of the worst dictator but weirdly claiming as a freedom fighter. PFDJ supporters can only seem in one way: as a useful idiot. But how do Ethiopians see this guy who is asking Ethiopian youngsters to shoot each other from a distance using money and propaganda supplied to him from Egypt?

    • blink

      Dear Hayat
      Yes , i can see this man based in Eritrea would have been far worse than the current EPRDF leader ,when it comes to Eritrea with its ports. I do not think he cares what happen to any poor Eritrean either .What he want is what he want and it should not be mixed with the concern of the Ethiopians on every city. Lets admit it EPRDF has to fundamentally change their policies. In order to give the people a fair share of power sharing process EPRDF must admit Ethiopia needs an opening unless they will automatically be available to the storm. What ever Ethiopian opposition and Eritrean opposition get from their helpers is non issue her because it is a way of playing politics.
      Channeling the main problem to Dr.Brhanu or any other is non starting point. Can you clarify where the 500,000 USD is coming , i mean down there it is stated it was given from DIA and Abi stated that again.

      • tes

        Dear Nitricc,

        Some where below you dropped your usual rusty words. I read it and is not new to me.

        BY the way, you pretended as an amateur writer by dropping incomplete paragraphs, misspelled words, empty headed of Tigrigna and Amharic. And so manytimes you pretended as you are learning new stuffs under a your carefully selected mentor saay7.

        Now that you are exposed fully as a well trained disrupter and divesionist, all what you say about other people belongs to you. What a butcher you are. Gosh

        tes

      • Hayat Adem

        Yes Blink,
        It is from Egypt. You are right, it should not be surprising this is happening but discussing it in that sense wouldn’t harm either.

        • blink

          Dear Hayat
          Discussing in any context is fair and actually good for the issue and the Ethiopian people must and should know who Dr.Brhanu is . But there are other issues for example 2day there was a meeting assumed to be held by Bereket simon in Gonder but the meeting was an successful for Bereket because the people did not want to hear the same excuse from Bereket Simon.

  • G. Gebru

    Dear Tewelde, selamat.
    It is events, places and eras what history is about. Said that rivalery is one of the events that tempts one to take sides in order to defeat his rival. If we take a recent event is the alliance between the EPLF & TPLF that ended up by liquidating the ELF an Eritrean faction that did a lot to secure our independence, but this was not so with the power monger EPLF and happened what happened. So is the case with Emperor Yohannes.
    But the ugly part of his reign was not his cooperation with foreign invaders but his ruthless action he took against his kins the Tigrain and Wollo muslems. A social scar.
    Thanks.

  • Mahmud Saleh

    Dear Hayat
    Many in this frum told you some time when cracking down of Addis protests began. TPLF led governemnt could not solve the problem by clubbing and shooting its way out of the mess it has been piling on. It’s interesting when you try to shift the blame to Eritrea, Egypt…the opposition. It’s a political game for the government when it invokes Eritrea for any hiccup that it causes, I mean, it’s really boring. But hey, it’s the job of politicians to shift away blames. But it’s not smart for a person who claims to be fighting for justice to blame the people whose political voice has effectively been sealed tightly through a parliament controlled 100% by the ruling regime, a judiciary system that awaits a word for rulings it should be making independently from the executive banch. Add to it corruption and cronyism. Add to it a government of minority 6% that has greedily controlled security, trade and investment, the army…name it. How I know it? I have many well informed, cool headed Ethiopians who also give the government credits where it deserves. They are not biased towards Tigreans, actually, they are against armed revolt, but they believe the governments political, economic, and administerative policies have pushed ordinary citizens to the streets because they have no other means to effectuate changes. Those who used their constitutional rights in blogging and writting, or petitioning (as in all the planning issues, and identity issues like the Walqait one, opposition leaders human right activists….have been labeled terrorists. At the end the people of Tigray will pay heavy price if the government is not willing to make genuine political changes. Scapegoating Eritrea does not have any added value by now. Ethiopians are sayig that their problem is TPLF and not Shaebya. Of course, as a staunch supporter of TPLF you could make some spins but not too much. General TsadQan’s somewhat benign and restrained warning is worth heeding.

    • Kim Hanna

      Selam Mahmud Saleh,
      .
      You are a very intelligent military man. In this case deliberately or otherwise you are acting as libertarian democrat. Just yesterday you were a die hard supporter of PFDJ, at Awate University.
      For the record, I am not a TPLF member nor from Tigray, not that there is a anything wrong with that to quote Mr. SAAY who quotes it from somebody else.
      .
      I will play a devil’s advocate, to borrow again from Mr. saay.
      .
      Do Ethiopian oppositions armed and financed exist in Eritrea?
      .
      What is their stated goal?
      .
      In the event, this current project is looked at as successful in Asmara and ELSEWHERE, what is the likelihood that the financing and other resources could increase by a factor of N?
      .
      Given the answers to these questions, what should be a sensible government do to protect itself from such an ominous development?
      .
      You see how that little “hiccup” (where did I hear that word before) can turn into a total vomit.
      .
      Mr. K.H
      .

    • Hayat Adem

      Greetings Mahmuday, Really glad to hear from you and be addressed by you. I see you again playing it cool, so I will re-tag the PM thing to your name as a deserved title.
      Dear MS, my PM, I thought you would fight for me from bad things in Eritrea and and I am encourgaed in knowing that you are even assuming a bigger role in the region. That is good, not bad. But avoid the PFDJ kind of argument lines if you your leadership is to play a good role and the region to benefit from your wisdom. You know PFDJ has toxic lenses and avoid them as much as you can. Long ago, we said unlearning can get harder than learning but try harder for a minimized effect. Today, we’ll be talking about Ethiopia but from an angle of maximizing Eritrean benefits, from people’s interest perspective, and from the long term vision of what we all dream in promoting the inevitable regional integration, which I hope you to have an exemplary role. I will limit my comment into four points: one, why protecting Ethiopia is in our interest; two and three on the why it backfires to wrongly characterize and box the Tigray people and four- on the option of fighting smartly for your rights without risking your country’s interest. Here we go:
      1) I’m supporting the interests of Ethiopia be cared and protected. I’ve come to consolidate my thought that Ethiopia and Eritrea have an interdependently shared future and fate. The best chance for Eritrea comes when Ethiopia is at peace and growing. I’m not saying this in the usual political cliche and nicety but with full authority that can be substantiated with numbers and facts. It is like allow the older sister to be succeed and flowering and enjoy the benefits that come with it rather than fighting and competing it constantly and putting oneself in endless misery. There can be one thing Eritrea can succeed to achieve by fighting and competing with Ethiopia: at best, it might temporary seem to appear influencing and even manipulating events and actions in Ethiopia. But this is deceiving as it can’t be sustained as it is not an objectively manageable project beyond satisfying short-sighted egos. You can’t proxy-manage big countries like Ethiopia without real superior resources: bigger economy, bigger market, superior cognitive resources, superior diplomatic muscle, superior technology, superior military… In relative terms, it is the other way round. So, make Ethiopia a permanent friend and keep benefiting. You can’t outsmart Ethiopia without those smart tools and keep on milking Ethiopia. Eritrea being such a small country in all sense is risky to assume that kind of role cutting out for itself. The consequence of it is existentially dangerous. I can understand if countries like Egypt are tempted to travel that road. But Egypt is not Eritrea in two big ways: First, we are lower-upper riparian where the strength of Ethiopia would force us be begging for water; rather we have perfect complementary situations where a bigger and stronger Ethiopia directly translates to more money and more opportunities for Eritrea. What you need to see this logic and reality is ego-free rational thinking.
      2) I see many Eritreans, including people who share a kitchen table with me, about this 6% people controlling affairs in Ethiopia. And this coming from my PM is no surprise. This is also the main propaganda line PFDJ sends to Ethiopians calculating an ethnic resent and crack fault-line. I don’t know why Eritreans would be sleepless about even if it was true. But it surprises me a lot the people who talk about it are the people who are less entitled to say about it. The man who repeatedly mentioned this thin here at Awate is SemereT. As you know, SemereT advocates for Tigrigna domination in Eritrea invoking the population size. He justifies the fairness for the Tigirigna to monopolize power in Eritrea. His numbers don’t add up, so clearly he is not defending this claim as the majority advocator. So, he is saying it because of identity bias. But he hates Ethiopians, including Tigreans though himself from Tigrigna that he thinks when they are fighting for dominance against each other, Eritrea will gain from such a thing. Of course, he is wrong but worse, he is mean and evil. This is typically PFDJ’s thought line. Also, looking it from a distance, I don’t believe it has any truth at all in today’s Ethiopia. Today’s Ethiopia’s power mainly rests with regional states rather than the federal government. And Tigray is a small war front line region. Tigray is being hurt because of the stand off with Eritrea and sliding behind the other regions. That is not difficult to see.
      3) “At the end the people of Tigray will pay heavy price if the government is not willing to make genuine political changes.” So what is this line for? I have heard it many times for so many times and I’ve counted it among the list of utterances that have evil intentions than substance. Dr. Birhanu said something to that effect when specifically addressing the Tigrean intelligentsia and elites. Why would the Tigray people pay heavier price if the TPLF did or didn’t do something? is the person who is saying that now thinking of harming the Tigray people if given a chance? Is he trying to threaten and blackmail them to win their support? Why would anyone say that to an ordinary mass of people? Is it it a very bad start? If Hilary thinks the Trump team is so bad and wanted to scare his supporters: if you don’t do something now, later your people will pay heavier price”- can she say that and go away with it without being implicated for inner imbalance and insanity? I have never expected such nonsense would pass your lips. And your friends or the Ethiopian opposition should only share their good plans to Ethiopians, Tigreans included, without such very ugly lines of argument. Any sensible opposition should say, we are also fighting for you and please help us as opposed to trying to say “if you don’t help now you will pay heavier price later different from others”. I don’t even know how that helps one’s cause but nonetheless it is nonsense and a bell of evil intentions.
      4) I am not asking for people to give up fighting for their rights nor endorsing the governments excesses. people should not allow themselves be preyed against their country’s long term national interest (and that helps Eritrea as I explained above). The government must provide and deliver law and order. They can’t allow chaos where every crazy criminal takes law into his own hands.if that has a chance it will be a fiesta for Egypt and the short sighted and hate-driven PFDJ supporters that don’t know an Ethiopia on fire would consume Eritrea as well. Other than that, I called on the government to refrain. I am stating some plain facts: Dr. Birhanu openly disclosed on record Eritrea is giving him 500k dollars every six month of which 200 is for Esat, 200k for the G-7 army and 100k for diplomatic influence in EU and USA for helping PFDJ and the Ethiopian opposition. He also said that money came from Egypt. This was 2- years ago on publicized audio record. So, it is not a wild allegation. It is all about connecting the dots.
      You are welcome.

      • blink

        Dear Hayat
        Is this the new line of talking points from EPRDF biro. crazy criminals ? 500k usd ,what kind of bullshit facts are they , where do you get it ? PFDJ can not even provide 100 arbeji forget about 500,000 usd. but as i told you before you are in a very difficult situation .God help the poor dehumanized people and god punish these evil. Actually no one in his right mind accept your crazy truth or what ever

        • Hayat Adem

          No Blink,
          That is actually true and Birhanu confirmed it in his own words in the audio. All you have to do is read and listen to it for yourself and judge for your self. Even Birhanu was once asked about it and the only thing he said in defense was “…we have always said that we will take any support from anyone for the sake of our struggle for freedom”.
          http://www.sudantribune.com/spip.php?article47111
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtGHGJ29m18
          http://ecadforum.com/News/dr-berhanu-nega-responds/

          • blink

            Dear Hayat
            I would love to believe that , i really do but Dr.Brhanu is not the bigger fish to feed in the Ethiopian opposition , nor do they need DIA money , Ok just to settle down this , I can agree on this .But your cold water on the real issue of the Ethiopian people makes me slightly aloof to believe the first. is there any corner in your mind these demonstrators are real and they want a justice ? Can an Eritrean human activist afford to stay silent about the injustice in Ethiopia? I may be the only person that hate EPRDF and PFDJ and wish them ultimate death but i could not imagine to see a very deaf and blind people in this website who give Agazi police a green light to shoot innocent people in Gondor and bahri dar . That sadness me hayat.

          • Hope

            Hayat:
            Prof Birhanu said deliberately to annoy the TPLF!
            Here a question for you:
            Do U have any info or evidence or data as to how much the TPLF Gov has been spending to its mercenaries to destabilize Eritrea?
            Please advise.
            Tnx!

        • Abi

          Hi blink
          Dr Birhanu is on record saying he received 500.000 USD from IA. What I did not know was it is every 6 months.

          • blink

            Dear Abi
            And the Ethiopian government (kal agebay ) was on record denying the extreme food shortage in Ethiopia . Not only that the information minster also is on record saying he has not idea about Tserona scrimsh with DIA . how do we trust such thing , ok lets see this way , how much is this 500,000 in 6 month , how many years are there to count in to half ? is there any reason that the Ethiopian people are not smart ? I differ on the second. I believe the Ethiopian people are smart and they are speaking what say feel. So is there a positive scenario from this ,yes Ethiopia will be a more open democratic state and corruption can be mulled out if EPRDF played smart and avoid complacency

          • Abi

            Hi blink
            These are two different things.
            The Ethiopian government qal aqebay was hiding the truth because it is embarrassing while Dr Birhanu was boasting because he secured a place and finance for his cause.
            It is your choice to make your judgement.
            I believe there is a possibility for both the people and the government to come out victorious.
            However, if the Eritrean government is involved in any way, the focus would change to ” hulum neger wede Tor ginbar “. Which means back to square one.

          • blink

            Dear Abi
            Selling Shaebia brand to the Ethiopian people is not going to be easy this time. There are fundamental issue the govt must address on open terms unless blaming shaebia or Eritrea is just old trick that will not fly long.

      • Mahmud Saleh

        Ahlen Hayat Welet Adem

        Your PM here by calls you to be consistent. It would be a conflicted being of you fighting for justice for Eritreans yet denying that same justice to our Ethiopian friends. Be consistent or accept the label I’ve been defending you from that you are a staunch supporter of the Ethiopian regims led by TPLF. I mean there is no other way of keeping your stand as a “justice seeker” when you deny mass uprisings, from many regions, against years of suppression, corruption, cronyism, sectarianism…you name it. You wrote, “They can’t allow chaos where every crazy criminal takes law into his own hands.” How could you say that unless you are a blind supprter of the government or one of its operatives? I will repeat what I said, AND I’m sure many Tigreans are saying the same, and they are calling for a political solution to the problem- I said that Tigreans will pay a heavy price if the government does not make a genuine political solution. This is a mere acceptance of the reality my friend. This government has been so greedy in monopolizing Ethiopian politics and resources. General Tsadkan gave the politicians a genuine appraisal of the situation and ways forward. I think you could not be more Tigrean than Tsadkan, even if you try. So, let’s be real. Opposition Bloggers, parties, intellectuals, activists who don’t subscribe to the type of democracy EPRDF cadres describe have been muzzled, arrested, harrassed, labelled terrorists, etc. The government has made it a habit to make Eritrea a scapegoat, too childish and too boring. I don’t wish bad things for Ethiopians. I have said enough regarding my resect and love for the people of Ethiopia. Tigreans have paid heavily and they deserve a government that does not set them to failure and disaster. They know this and they are the ones who are looking for way out of this quagmire. It’s not me. Some of them are looking for the solution at the wrong place such as invading Eritrea. Firstly, I’m against any armed solution, against war. However, it’s good to remind you that Ethiopians are too tired of the scapegoating tactics. They are saying their enemy is wayane. That’s what the tens of thousands youth in Gondar, Amara region, Oromo Addis and other places saying. Therefore, if you are really for justice, it’s incumbent upon you not to be discriminatory. Ethiopians too ask for justice. And if you think that it’s essential that the current government and its policies need to take root, then you have to accept the reality that there is a popular resent and advise the government to do the right thing. A mere “don’t use force” advice to the government followed by bashing a popular uprising as agents of foreign powers does not serve the image you want to construct about your self. Ethiopian authorities would notn hesitate to summon Egyptian Ambassador if they had evidences supporting Egypts involvement. They can’t do it because they can’t get away the same way they are getting away by blaming everything on Eritrea.
        I share the idea of peaceful and cooperating region. It needs two to tango my friend. At this time, the DJ is waiting until both parties solve their internal problems. Regarding Semere Tesfai and what have you, please don’t try to divert the point. Semere is no less a fighter than anyone who assigns the “justice seeker” to themselves. Let’s get away from the blame game.

        • Nitricc

          Greetings- Mahmuday the great: what up my man? I see you trying your best to engage Ms Adam. Although I admire your efforts trying to knock some sense to her, however, I would like to remained
          you that once a dedebit, always dedebit. They don’t learn and analyze things objectively. I am not a leader nor I have the responsibility of the Ethiopian nation or people but I told on this forum that Welqait is the timing bomb ready to explode and I told that the demise of TPLF will be commenced
          by the people of Gondar. If I can see and analyse this over a year and half ago, how is the people who are leaders and have the responsibility of the country and the people unable to see this coming. It was just last week PMDH told BBC that the country was heading in to ethic civil war.
          What is even more intriguing and perplexing is, the TPLF feeding their people with a very dangerous and irresponsible emotional out-put. At the end of the day the majority will demand its rightful place in the country. You can’t continue to dominate an all sectors of the society while you
          are representing 6% of the population. You will think they will have exit strategy; they have been in power for 25 years and they have made their money and looted Ethiopia to the dry bone; is not enough? I guess, it is an addiction, the addiction that gets you killed. I was watching this clip which I will share it with you and there was news in Tigray TV and the reportage I saw on weqait pro government demonstrating against the Amhara; the words and emotions that was displayed is
          scary and dangerous. Even what is more intriguing is that the demonstrators were armed with AK-47. The question must be asked as it was asked in the clip; why are they allowed to carry a weapon while the rest of Ethiopians are slaughtered for demonstrating UNARMED? When you get the chance please watch the clip and you will understand what exactly the rest of Ethiopians feel.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAvIe3zEQD0

        • Hayat Adem

          Dear PM MS,
          Remember to be serious and real when arguing with me. Apply the same standard and be honest to yourself. Did you support the Geneva public outcry in no uncertain terms as a justice seeker?
          I am not creating this evidence of 500K dollar from IA from Egypt as reported by Birhanu Nega. i gave the evidence where the accused is admitting guilty in his own voice. Don’t you say something about it?
          Summoning the Egypt Ambassador? Now don’t make laugh as if you know it to be a standard custom that every sabotage and hostile acts addressed and handled through summoning ambassadors.
          When it comes to freedom and oppression, Ethiopia is by far better than Eritrea. The fact that these uprising are happening will tell you that. And I am for peaceful pressures to demand expansion of rights. You said you don’t want to see violence in these demonstrations and how is that different from what I’m saying? We are saying the same about that. But something is not the same. The fact that some of the demonstrations are being led by people like Birhanu and cohorts who are mentored by my own merciless totalitarian IA must mean something.
          When we were talking about the COIE and Geneva, you rejected totally invoking the interests of the national issues should not be handled by foreign hands. You rejected the the demonstrations too referring as an extension of those foreign hands. Now, you know Eritrea is financing G-7 and Esat relaying it from Egypt. And you are okay with that.
          I could not be more Tigrean than Tsadiqan and I didn’t follow what he said. Definitely, he is closer to the events and issues and what he said must be seriously read and considered. i can’t say in support or opposition to his views before I read them. My logic is, the Tigray people have no responsible as a people on anything more than any other people in Ethiopia are. If you ask me, that kind of thought is wrong. If it was not coming from you, whom I think is a disciplined thinker, I would called out right fascistic. Honestly, you don’t single out ordinary people as a candidate to suffer more for political consequences in any given country. And unless there is something clouding your thinking, this can’t be an issue beyond your pay grade to grasp.
          Now let me make clear: we agreed Ethiopia shouldn’t go violent and should not lose its peace to chaos. Right? We also agreed the government should not try to solve issues by shooting. Right? I add, the only justified shooting must be when it is used to prevent nationwide breakdown of law and order and when it is only applied justified and to the minimum to prevent mass bloodshed. Here too, we are the same because we said violence must be avoided. Now you heard in the first incidence of Gondar, there were 15 Policemen killed none civilians. Nowhere in the world would be allowed that to happen.
          Let’s cut the crap: some fellow Eritreans unconsciously developed a love to EPLF and by legacy to PFDJ more than the love they have for their people and country. Somewhere in their conscious mind, they thought the center of gravity of the region is in Sahel. Somewhere in their subconscious space, they encrypted the invincible EPLF/PFDJ which does things in the Horn as it pleases. But today’s Ethiopia is an obstacle to that mental image. Somewhere in their subconscious space, they think Ethiopia today is too strong to deal for PFDJ. So, in stead of reconciling their views with the reality and dream for the best possible, they get tempted by the idea that that fantasy can be revived if Ethiopia gets weakened. And what you are saying above comes from only that mind kitchen. Now you are not condemned just because you thought that way. But, I am challenging you, that is not to canyon’s benefit except PFDJ.

          • Abi

            Hi Hayat
            When the people’s grievances piled up year after year and the ruling TPLF led government thinks it is ok and doubling down in controlling every sector of the economy, military, politics…. People stop to see the difference between TPLF and the people of Tigry. If I remember correctly in 2005 protests it was the business of ordinary Tigreans were targeted by the angry protesters. There is no warranty that doesn’t happen again.
            How do you honestly debate for this debacle? You are saying 6/100= 100/6?
            How long are they going to cheat?

          • Hayat Adem

            Dearest Abi,
            6/100 is not equal to 100/6. anow show me which is which? Which one is 6/100 and which one the other.
            Lets knock some minimum common sense and make sure we don’t disagree on that.
            1) I say the Tigrai people CANNOT and SHOULD NOT be seen at fault for whatever social and political ill is gripping the nation. If at all, they can only be victims like the others. Do you agree?
            2) I say the government and the ruling party is alone responsible for any problems ailing or lingering unsolved/unaddressed in the country. Do you agree?
            3) The only way to go forward without risking hard won progresses made so far should be for people keep on putting pressure on the government/party non-violently and for the government to open its eyes and address the wish of the people. Do you agree?
            I’m hoping we are on the same page on all. If not on all on two of them. At least on one of the three but that one must be (1), and I am not worried if we disagree on the rest. But if we disagree on number one, then I will have an issue. In my world, no worldly creature should see any people with a blanket accusation or as a potential target. That is what they call…well, civilized people should free themselves from such thoughts. In fact they should confront, fight and tackle it with all intents and resources. If there are not enough people who would not reject such a notion in today’s Ethiopia, then you are doomed to curse.
            The rest is fine and it all depends on one’s perspective.

          • Abi

            Hi Hayat
            We agree in all 1,2 and 3.
            There is a serious problem here and it is not new. It is growing by day. The resentment of non-Tigry Ethiopian towards People of Tigry. Let’s be all honest. Everyone is talking about it . Everyone is angry. I hope the government will find a solution soon.
            Question
            Why don’t the people of Tigry protest? Don’t tell me the Amharas and Oromos, Gambelas,.enjoy protesting and dying.
            Asa gimatu kechinqlatu!

          • blink

            Dear Abi
            are you suggesting Tigrai people accept the EPRDF policy so they do not need to go out on streets ??? come on , The agazi police would have been more evil to the tigrai people. This fight is a fight between rich and cheated people . Tigrai people are actually telling their concern on other forms .If you agree on number ONE , you should not bring in question. Tigrai people are free and they have nothing to do with this . EPRDF greedy people are using TPLF old history just to mischief the Tigrai people. If things continue like the current situation for 2 weeks , i am afraid the tigrai people must avoid all the central Ethiopia and pack every thing and come to Tigrai . Their safety is a paramount concern for each of them.

          • Hayat Adem

            I think I heard they did and they were dealt in the same way the Gondar demos were. I will try to find you a link on that. But it doesn’t mean everyone has to protest to show solidarity.

          • Nitricc

            Hayat OMG; you are a liar. the only demonstration was in Adi-Remets in support of TPLF against the will and wish the people of Welquyt. in fact, the demonstrators were armed with AK-47 while the rest of Ethiopian unarmed demonstrators shoot to death. it is high time the people of Tigray show some solidarities to the people of Oromo and Amara. TPLF is gone, I suggest the people of Tigray better save themselves.

          • PTS

            Nitricc,
            How do you know all this stuff? Do you follow Ethiopian issues around the clock?

          • Nitricc

            Hi PTS; where do you live man? I live in the USA and i have all the information on my finger tips. anyway; there is a clip i shared with Mahmuday and watch the clip then you will have your answers.
            since you bet me that PFDJ will fall before TPLF thugs; i suggest you get my money ready. how dumb can you be to make that bet? you are not that bright are you? 😉 lol

          • Amde

            Lij Abi,

            I don’t think there is any region as tightly controlled as Tigray. Most people don’t appreciate how much of a thorough control on people’s lives the TPLF has in Tigray down to the household level.

            Plus the issues that ignited the current situation in the other regions started off as bread and butter issues. It was farmland usurpation in Oromia, and the Welqayit issue is tied to Amara farmer dispossession of land when they became part of Tigray. Arrogant dismissal of those issues left them smoldering and now other embers have found their way to collectively make a nice fire. I don’t know of any specific similar issue for Tigray. What would be the basis for Tigrayans to protest in public in this circumstance?

            Now a case can be made that people should at least protest the brutal treatment of demonstrators. But that is a valid accusation to be levelled at many other places. Starting with Addis Ababa. Or any major town within the southern region.

            But if it is being said that in some places there have been selective attacks on Tigrayans, I don’t know on what basis one can expect Tigrayans to come out on the streets of Tigray and protest the actions of the government.

            I personally found General Tsadqan’s paper extremely interesting. I’d like to think that he circulated it among a few hopefully like minded colleagues and ex comrades for comments before coming out in public. If I am right, it is evidence of a strong support for change even within the TPLF. I have yet to see a strong public pushback against it from anyone in senior positons of the party.

            Amde

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Hayat Adem,
            .
            I agree with 1, 2, and 3.
            .
            Let me add my perspective.
            In the event of any demonstration that takes place, on an unexpected and spontaneous issue, police need to keep order to protect life and property with no more than rubber bullets in their arsenal.
            .
            In general issues that is raised, need to be addressed before they become issues of demonstration. Issues raised at Kebele or Woreda level need to be solved before they become demands. These issues don’t explode overnight.
            .
            The Government cannot and must not react to demands and violence only to give in or to change policy because of it. It is an invitation to chaos.
            .
            When demonstrators come in armed or beat up or kill police officers, the Rubicon has been crossed.
            If the Gov. faces and reacts in this fashion, leadership at the top has to change, before complete breakdown of law and order. We don’t need a General or one man at the top to call all the shots, but a backbone at the top leadership is needed.
            .
            My nagging fear is, when a critical mass is reached, the Gov. will try to solve all the problems, roots and all at one time. A lot of life and road to progress will be lost. What a pity it would be.
            .
            Do not forget, we have many who wish us ill. They are participating, observing and learning from each episode. Their allocation of resources and intelligence services see where the red lines are. They will always push the envelope. Let us not make it easy for them to turn us into an Eritrea.
            .
            Mr. K.H

          • Dear Hayat Adem,

            What you said about the difference between the people of Tigray and the government, in which TPLF plays the major role (a political party that represents the elites than the people), cannot be more true. Ethiopians should never forget the big difference between the two, even if the first is supported by the latter. TPLF has done its best to tell them that it is the vanguard of the people of Tigray, even though Tigrayans elites are the sole beneficiaries.

            The name TPLF (as a liberation front 25 yrs after its mission is supposed to have ended), could be a symbol accepted by the people of Tigray, but not by the other ethnic groups. It ended up symbolizing domination. They better know that they are approaching the end of the journey of arrogance and sense of invincibility. A rebabtized TPLF that is part and parcel of the Ethiopian political landscape on equal grounds with others, and not as an instrument of social, economic
            and political domination of the country is the way to the future. It is time the policy of domination comes to an end for the good of all.

          • Abi

            Hi Horizon
            You said it very well. Let me say this to conclude all the zibazinkes I said before.
            No one can refute that ALL the major sectors of the economy, military, security, government offices top to down are dominated by people from Tigry. It is also important to note that Tigry is advanced in every aspect more than the national average. Just check the major industrial parks, universities, airport services, and other infrastructures. These developments and achievements, although encouraging, should not come on the expenses of other regions. Just compare the number of universities to other comparative regions with even larger landmass and population size. The same goes to the number of higher learning institutions.
            Why is Tigry a preferred child of the ” TPLF” led government?
            If the government continues in the same way, soon I mean very soon people will have difficulty to distinguish between TPLF and an Ordinary Tigry. This in turn will push the ordinary Tigrean towards TPLF. In the end it is going to be Tigry against Ethiopia .
            I hope I’m wrong as always.
            Horizon, I don’t like what is happening.

          • Dear Abi,

            Just for a change.
            Can you imagine how this dude carrying so much fat got all the way to Rio, without anybody stopping him on the way. May be floating is equivalent to swimming for our athletic organization, or they do not seem to have any idea about Olympic swimming competitions.

            http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3731786/Breathe-Remember-Eric-Eel-Meet-Robel-Whale-Ethiopian-swimmer-displays-non-athletic-paunch-100-metres-finishes-half-lap.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

          • Abi

            Hi Horizon
            Thank you for the needed change.
            Just imagine how Ayte Kiros got to this prestigious competition?
            This fat Azz embarrassing loser should loose at least 100 kilos to qualify.
            Ayte Fluffy or Ayte rubber duck will never sink . That is the only good part I see. Whoever sent him to Rio should be removed from his position.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Horizon,

            Thank you for the laugh. Abi, I saw that yesterday and I was thinking what you were going to say. May be he funded himself to go there. His dive pictures does not look bad:), and he got the most cheers for his efforts. Reminds me the movie “Cool Running”.

            On the Positive note:
            U of T professor looks to thank The Weeknd for $50,000 donation for Ethiopian Studies program

            http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/the-weeknd-ethiopian-studies-1.3712185

            Berhe

          • Abi

            Hi Berhe
            You are being nice. So you think Ayte Kiros funded himself all the way to Rio? Well, he must be doing fine.
            The question should be how did he qualify for the competition? This borcham is given special treatment as has been the case always. I hope this is the last time we see Ayte Fluffy.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Abi,

            The reason I thought he may have funded himself, was I remembered the story of the Ethiopian who went to cross country winter games, and he was practicing in the street of Addis using roller blades.

            He is only male for swimming and there is another women (hope she does better). Jokes aside, I don’t know how he got qualified but may be he is the best in Ethiopia. Looking at the time, the winner time was around 48 Sec and his time was 65 seconds, 13 seconds is a lot for a 100 meter. But of those participated 59 only 16 advanced to the next round and he come last.

            So I think the better question is, what’s Ethiopia record holder in this type of events. That would answer why he qualified in the first place and if his time was similiar as his performance then, why did they bother to bring him (as he has no chance close to being a contender).

            As to his looks, I don’t think it’s lack of exercise. Even at his time, I am sure that’s plenty of workout.

            Berhe

          • welde

            Hi Abi,

            Wow,I am really amazed by your comment. Not long ago it was the Eritreans now its the Tigrayans turn. Unbelievable! I never expected such rubbish comment from you, maybe G7 and co..

            All i would say is God please deliver us from evil mentality.

            regards,

          • Abi

            Hi Ayte welde
            You ain’t kidding. God save us all.
            Tell that to General Tsadkan , an insider to the inner workings of TPLF.
            He is worried as much as I do.
            Why are you amazed?
            It is time to get down from your high flying horse and listen to the people.

          • blink

            Dear Abi
            The problem with new TPLF and PFDJ is that their horses can not stop they are addicted . They will ride until the cliff and after that they will use a para shoot to jump in to Air plane , flight rout , may be America and Saudi respectively.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Horizon; obviously The people of Tigray can’t protest against their own TPLF but they must demonstrate or show some kind of solidarity against the killing. you don’t have to be from one kind of race or tribe to oppose killing. all it takes is to be human. I think if the Tigryans show some kind of solidarity in opposing the killing, it will go a long way on the healing and reconciliation presses that must take place after the TPLF thugs.

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Gual Adem
            Focus…Focus…focus please.
            – Tigray TV said that a counter demonstration took place in walqait. COMPARE Oromo students’ peaceful signs with both hands empty and crossed up in the air. The government supported and reported demonstration though full of gun touting demonstrators. Worse, with vitriolic slogans and demeanors.
            – Look how the people are challenging the government based on the constitution of the land. The problem is dear Hayat, a constitution is just another document unless it is enforced in letter and spirit. A government that controls the legislative 100% could not be expected to observe the restraints placed in the constitution to restrain the executive branch. Please watch the video Nitrickay linked up. Don’t pass up this man.
            – Tsadkan stated that midland citizens hate Tigreans. This is not mine. I’m living with Ethiopians, I monitor Ethiopian media, so please don’t pretend as if you are talking a clueless Mzungu.
            -In the same video, you will watch General Samora saying “wayane is a line, wayane is the people of Tigray.” You see where the rage of other Ethiopians is coming from. They have heard this domineering attitude for years. Samora is not saying “Wayane is an Ethiopian”, No he is saying wayane is Tigrean, and added “That’s all ends”. The chief of staff of Ethiopian defense forces is saying the government in Ethiopia (which in reality is TPLF, is equivalent to the people of Tigray. Watch it. Now, if this is not fascist what else? Iwill brush off your calling having a fascist idea simply for saying that the people of Tigray are going heavy price unless the government makes a genuine political solution. It doesn’t make sense but if you are going to entertain there you have it the Chief of Staff of Ethiopian Defense Forces has told you what could constitute a fascist tendency.
            – Now, what is your say? Do you really believe the people who are protesting are foreign agents, or what you see and read makes you believe that there is a problem and the government needs to come up with a genuine solution.
            – Never mind about my position. Those who want to read what’s written know my position and those who need more writing, will get it as we go.

          • Hayat Adem

            Aha, Mahmuday,
            I like your last message. Great. Eritrea is Eritrea. I agree 100%.
            Did we state anything by saying so? Maybe, those who know know. But Djibouti is Djibouti too. Being a small country, they are doing their best. They won all the port business from us, they have powerful allies, they are integrating their trade and economy with a bigger market called Ethiopia. They are outsmarting us in a different way, in a 21st century style. So, don’t look down at them.
            Somalia are okay too. We need to sympathize with them not bragging on them. They are trying their best to get out of the mess they got in, the kind of mess any country in the Horn is not immune not to slip into theoretically at least. Our Eritrea is the closest in the Horn on its way to easily go Somalized, God forbid. So, we need not to look down at them either while we are not that far, and maybe inching to their situation day by day. And remember, we haven’t even lived that long as them as a nation since independence. You and and I are expected to do something not to face their chance and we need to agree on understanding where we are now. Our relation with and characterization of Ethiopia is part of it.
            So now, you looked down at Djibouti, you have looked down at Somalia and if Ethiopia could go down the hatch, you seem to be marveling at finding a 3rd candidate to look down at and say “we are not like Djibouti or Somalia or Ethiopia.” Great! Why can’t you think of Eritrea outside the Sahel prism, my brother? Why don’t think of Eritrea as a shining hope of freedom, business, tourism, peace, harmony etc? Why?
            I think I know, once a soldier not easy to unsoldier oneself. I yearn to see Eritrea completely freed from a militarized siege mentality and moved to see the entire region as an opportunity bearer and not as an enemy to shoot at. That is one issue at the heart of this discussion.

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Selam dearest Gual Adem
            Please focus, focus and FOCUS**.
            1. Any comment on Generals Tsadkan and Samora?
            2. Any comment on the way Tigray administration is handling the matter, basically pitching people against people?
            3. Any comment on the way TPLF led regime is handling the demonstrations? Do you still consider the mass as agents of Egypt and shaebia?
            4. Any comment on why we are seeing what we are seeing ( wayanay democracy where the executive and legislative branches are 100% the ruling TPLF-led party?
            5. Any comment on why independent bloggers, political leaders, human rights activists…are thrown behind bars simply because they wanted to exercise their rights that are enshrined in the constitution of the land?
            6. Any comment why you would act discriminately when it comes to justice (justice for Eritreans[????????] and no justice for Ethiopians)?
            7. Comment on why you are not giving the government you staunchly support(against all odds)?
            **I will not respond to all the personal and the irrelevant matters including my learning unlearning of Sahel stuff, and all the advices and chastising . Hayat show me your best. Hope is calling you to show the GUT and the COURAGE. And tSAtSE the ring master will give us concluding remarks. But for now, FOCUS. Zero in on Gonder and the rest of the places. It is about the Ethiopian people. If you really care for the people give your best advice and that is for the government to come up with a genuine political solution. You may crack down this one but it’s akin to placing a band aid to a gapping wound. I said that when the arrest of Addis and Oromia erupted, and I’m saying it now. You know why I care about the Ethiopian people. i

          • Guest

            Hi
            Can you name 10 people not x tplf from tigrai who does not support tplf ?

  • Abi

    Hi Guest
    Thank you . I’m balager. It is called Ethiopia.
    You are agerebis Engda.

    Joke aside, there is nothing special about being Amhara. Nothing at all.

  • Abi

    Hi Engdachin
    Yihe Engda chekole liyadir new meselegn
    Keyet new yemeTaw simun Teyqulign.

  • PTS

    Hello all,
    It looks like tyrant Isaias has relented on Patriarch Abune Antonios. According to the Synod’s letter published on one of the regime’s mini websites, the Patriarch supposedly admitted to making mistakes (no mention what mistakes). Reconcilliation took place and his fate of returning to his chair will be decided after a meeting.
    Clearly, Isaias is doing a lousy job of face-saving. First, he made him admitt of mistakes, in fact no one can be sure the Patriarch DID admitt his mistake. As always, we are hearing only one side, the side of the G-1. Then the issue of returning to his position won’t be right away but gradually “after the meeting”, so as to diminish the dramatic nature of the move. Nice try! Behind the curtain, Isaias has been working really hard at finding ways to have the Patriarch reinstated, while keeping his (Isaias’) dignity intact. We will see if he succeeds as usual.

    • Abi

      Hi PTS
      It looks like the Patriarch is looking for a blessing from the Tyrant.
      YetegelabiTosh!
      ” Negeru honena endayhon, endayhon!”ale yagere azmari.

    • Solomon

      Selamat PTS,

      Which is it? Or is it both? I.e.,

      Post Traumatic Stress or Pass The Salt?

      You got a response once from GoneSJ. “Weriduom deHri megareja.” And for Jeopardy or DoubleJeopardy, your response in its proper format is:

      Way ahead of you…I think.
      tSAtSE

  • Abi

    Hi Guest
    What is your position in regards to the ethnic politics in Ethiopia?
    I see you crying only for welqayit. I’ve been crying for everyone affected by this backward ethnic politics.
    If you must know Kim is Amhara, I’m Amhara .
    Hey, Mr High flying welqayit Amhara, give me a break. You are too narrow minded to talk to me.
    I’m taking about Ethiopia, you are talking about a minute fraction of the country.
    Ethiopia is more than Amhara. It is even more than welqayit.
    Get real.

  • tes

    Dear All,

    I wish for Ethiopia peace and integrity. What we see in Ethiopia today is avoidance of fear. For this the ruling govern;ent should be acknowledged. The first thing a denocratic government should do is to avoid FEAR from his own people. And the people become courageous to demand what is missing.

    A message to the government:

    The government should know that what is going is a a positive sign of democratization. Hence no aggressive response but wise decisions to calm the upraisal. For should PFDJ has a negative role in this upraisal. And hence they should open a file against the PFDJ regime for destabilizing Ethiopia.

    At last for Ethiopian people: be courageous enough to demand what is you need. But believe on a united Ethiopia. A united Ethiopia is a blessing instead of disintegrated country.

    tes
    tes

    • Nitricc

      hi Tes, i wonder what time it was when you posted this one. why do i have this feeling that was that time. you know.
      what a pathetic creature.

    • T..T.

      Hi tes and all,

      The two countries, Eritrea and Ethiopia, slipped this month from exchanging accusation over border clashes to regime change plots. According to Meskerem-dot-net, the Gheza Tegaru pal-talk members are blaming Isayas for inflaming ethnic unrest to break up Ethiopia. They are calling for equal and opposite reaction against Isayas. From the pal-talk discussion, they are serious this time in suggesting that the threat to peace in Ethiopia could be addressed only through regime change in Eritrea.

    • Kim Hanna

      Selam tes,
      .
      I appreciate the sentiment you expressed. It is very neighborly and genuine. It is a good sign that when the old folks leave with their baggage, the new generation, in spite of the propaganda, see things in a normal practical human way.
      .
      Some of the old folks steeped in their distorted vision get exited and happy when they hear the slightest disharmony as if that is a benefit to them. What they don’t realize is, it might even worsen their condition with the slightest miscalculation on somebody’s part. Let us hope the wise people prevail.
      .
      Mr. K.H

      • tes

        Dear Kim Hanna,

        Thank you for response. On the Ethiopian politican and social developments, I am very positive. If there is any positive success for EPRDF is going to be registered in the history books of emanicipation, it is the avoidance of FEAR from Ethiopian people. This is great achievements and I commend EPRDF leadership for this. Unlike before, where RED TERROR was so common under Ethiopian leaders (especially the Derg Regime), Ethiopians are removing the FEARS they had and opposing government policies and dictatorship.

        People like Oromos, where they have lived either as servants or having NO SAY on their country political matters, now we can see opposing policies and governance system that they feel is not for them.

        Amharas, those who were thinking as heritants of Solomon Kingdom, and took for granted as rulers of the entire region, have now changed into a normal people where they are demanding a fair political system.

        I might have gone further to illustrate what Ethiopia has achieved within the last 25 years with my very limited connaisance of Ethiopian internal politics.

        But, but, I can sum all in ONE: Ethiopians will never FEAR any government any more. And this is the achievement of EPRDF leadership.

        As I said above, a message that I addressed to Ethiopian government, this development is very positive> It will consolidate Ethiopia further and a fair, discentralized system of governance, equal opportunities, fair economic and social developments, open and transparent democratization process will reign in Ethiopia. I am very certain on this.

        This is my take.

        Forget now the distablizing political works of PFDJ, Ethiopia and the the government should be wise on resolving this current seemingly chaotic political dynamism. It is the harvest of all Ethiopian revolutionaries. If we see any lasting bottleneck in this days, it is the last breathing of those who have a lust for political freedom and transparency.

        In case, TPLF is accused as a hosting of political giants, it is just the last call of ending dictating mindset. NO more no less.

        This is some of my contemplations on Ethiopian political developments of today.

        People’s freedom os measured on the magnitute of FEAR. If we measure this magnitude, EThiopia today is having the lowest value among developing countries.

        Recently I have visited Egypt and stayed there for almost two months. I have the FEAR within the people and the Negative PEACE they live in. I have good observation to conclude that Ethiopia is marching in a right direction. (Do you want me to take deeper analysis? No my friend, this is enough for you as I know you that you are a critical contemplator).

        Therefore, Ethiopian Elites should be very positive.

        Hmm, not those on ESAT of course. These are the last reminants of the feudal lords. Let them try till they vanish.

        A united Ethiopia is a blessing for Africa.

        Regards.

        tes

        PS: I wish I compile my penny contemplation and write in an article form. let me think on this anyway.

        • Thomas D

          Hi Tes,

          Your above comment is insightful. It is in the interest of Eritrea to keep the current ruling in Ethiopia. If not, we will be entering the dark. Both countries have missed the opportunities to doing business among each other counting every second of the day. Image where we could have been if we had not immersed ourselves since 1998. The economies of both countries would have multiplied and both countries would have been the best examples of economic advancements in the entire Africa and elsewhere. If ethiopia is to disintegrate and being the closest neighbor of Eritrea, how is Eritrea’s economic expected to advance? Can we get out of our current problems? I think the futurity of Eritrea would be bleak if Ethiopia gets into a mess. Some commentaries here are so blinded with hate that they cannot see what is coming or they don’t seem to care as long as their ego is satisfied.

          • Abi

            Hi Thomas D , the would be president of the USE,
            Why 1998? How about 1961? Just saying.

          • Thomas D

            Hi Abi,

            Go to the closest date (1961), I wonder if you were even born in 1961? Start to talk from the invention of the internet, cellphone, marine transportation, air transportation and global marketing etc. Lots of things have changed and the world is no more the same, wake-up brother:)

          • Abi

            Thomas, Thomas, Thomas
            Can I call you Tommy?
            I was not born in 1961.
            So you think the above advancement achieved after 1998?
            I was talking about what we could have achieved since 1961.
            I laughed when I see marine transportation. Really? Marine transportation is as old as Axumite Kingdom or older.
            Let’s call it ” Lost in Translation “. Fair enough?

          • Thomas D

            Hi Abi,

            I am very happy that Abi can laugh at some of the things I say here because we really enjoy your little amharic funny jokes you provide us here:)

          • Abi

            Hi Tommy
            I already said ” Lost in Translation “.
            Ende GeTaTa eyaleqesku lingerih?
            Hey, your funniest joke is USE. Nobody can match that. Top notch joke. Hahahaha I’m still laughing.
            Thanks.

          • Thomas D

            Hi Abi,

            Now, about the USE I am serous:) Choosing a country can be by choice, we live in U.S.A and we are citizens of the U.S and enjoying life and all, right? What is the problem with that? Remember, how many Latina notions would to join the United State Of America? Now, don’t get me wrong I am not saying Eritrea is America. I have a dream, she will be as rich and powerful as U.S.E. among the African nations. Don’t take too much pride over your country:) The people bordering Eritrea can decide to join Eritrea and live a miserable life in their own country:) If they seem to say the potential that Eritrea has to advance and since they are right at the border, they can just join USE and enjoy rich life by swinging around the seas and lands of Eritrea:)

        • Abi

          Hi philosopher Tes
          I beg you! Please DO NOT write anything about Ethiopia in an article format. I don’t want to miss class at Awate University.
          If possible make sure your comment is not more than a short paragraph.

          It looks like you are back on your 8:00pm routine.

          I suggest you read ” Encyclopedia Aethiopica” while sipping a glass of wine.

          • Thomas D

            Hi Abi,

            Ante sewiye min nekah? Andiye kenekesk atlekim ende? People change through time and experiences so consider that:) A’re benatih tew?

          • Abi

            Hi Thomas
            Your Honor, May I approach your desk?
            Thanks, Your Honor
            Do you believe the above comment from Tes come from a mentally stable person?
            No further questions. The prosecutor rests the case.

          • tes

            Dear Abi,

            Thanks to Vin Rouge* my heart is more purified and pumps blood peacefully. Come here to Pays-de-La-Loire, a place where you can get the best Vin Rouge.

            On writing, if I succeed to write it, it will be a turning stone to Ethiopian politics and Ethiopia will be stronegr than ever before.

            You know my wish is to see Strong and United Ethiopia free of zombies like those of ESAT and G7.

            tes

          • Abi

            Hi Professor Tes,
            I’m salivating to read your stone turning, Ethiopia changing article. Go for it! I’m taking vacation.

          • tes

            Dear Abi,

            X|Y is not equal to Y|X unless one is reading with an old broken eye-glass.

            tes

    • blink

      Dear tes
      Avoidance of fear ? open a file ? Look the Ethiopian people are not like zambies , they are complaining for real problems not the other way . I feel ashamed we could not do the same thing in Eritrea. Imagine if DIA can manage such thing in Oromo , Gondar , hahridar and other places just by giving 500,000 in 6 months , he must be super smart .

      • Thomas D

        Hi Blink,

        We all come to realized the most favorite subject you like to talk is Ethiopia. Are you not from Eritrea? Can you focus on your own business? Your crocodile tears is visible and has annoyed almost everyone commenting on this forum.

        • blink

          Dear Thomas

          My comments annoyed almost every one !!!!! wink wink . I have never ever imagined or wished the Ethiopian people any bad thing but yes i pushed this forum to at least write one line of comment for the mercy of the Ethiopian people. It is hot issue in our region . You have been commenting about this or like the UNITED ERITREA thing. I have nothing to gain from a dead young girl in bahri dar or Gonder . I am 100% sure on my principle for a united Ethiopia and this will not change . I am not like your EPRDF cronies who are pushing Ethiopia to request for article 39.

      • tes

        Dear blink,

        Take my note here: DIA is a killer, just like Mengstu. And you know how Mengie was removed from power. The same is awaiting for DIA. Just count the days. When chaos is ignited in Eritrea, it will be the worst ever seen in this region. For this forces are organizing every where. The chaos will be like a volcanic and hope it will terminate sooner.

        Take my notes

        tes

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Hi tes,

          Do not even think that the Eritrean people will find a space inside Eritrea, to voice their grievance as the Ethiopian people to some extent are exercising. Though limited, the Ethiopian people are exercising their constitutional law. In a diversified society grievances do exist on off and on, and it depend on the competence of governments to address them as they come to the surface. If they do not address them as they happen, they will be piled up to the extent of breeding mistrust among the diversities

        • blink

          Dear tes
          yes you are right but the notion Eritreans will go on hunting trip is not visible even by telescope of kunama , afar and other fringe groups. Big Military action or opposistion in Eritrea is nonexistent and it will never happen. who is going to hunt who ? if any principled army can shoot any bullet to Eritrea based on goals that benefit Eritreans DIA will only run, that is it.

          what we are missing is a principled opposition to this evil man

          • Thomas D

            Hey Bleak. You mentioned two groups out of 9 nationals: the Afars and The Kunamas? For God’s seek, are these two nationals not the once who are fighting the regime you are supporting as we speak? Are you into something, Mr/S Bleak? I don’t know why you decided to talk about the Kunamas and Afrara’s but you seem you have no heart and mind for their miseries. These nationals ofcourse are made to leave the nation they love and to migrate to Ethiopia and elsewhere in the world. This is as part of ethnic cleansing by the regime you are supporting. You see you make very weak argument when it comes to eritrea because you are not making any effort to understand what is happening there. You are so exposed and they only reason you are here is to defend the criminals/masters.

          • blink

            Dear Mr.Thomas
            is n`t it wink wink enough for you ? what else do you want me to say ? I mean do you want me to make insults by changing your User ID ?

  • Solomon

    Hope:
    Dude, just google Imoji and USA gymnastics. My first spoken words were Kunamagna. All I can remember now is that gna gna sound were plenty.
    No fret, another hypnosis session and it will all come back to me. Did you take note of Imoji.. You are thinking of mojo.. Hey JoJo do you remember? Weriduom AT…
    tSAtSE

  • blink

    Dear awate forum family

    Does it make any sense to deny any Ethiopian justice seekers (voicless ) the voice ? why could it be the reason to keep quite or give a deaf ear to the people of Oromo or other people in Ethiopia ? It may feel for most of you a tactical move but not being strategic is also a lost. I could imagine if this current situation was in sudan or Eritrea , can you imagine Hayat , T.Kifle and Eyob comments , they would have commented non stop for 24 hours through out the week . All of them could have been here ragging their best words of Evil over and over . My enemies enemy is my friend is not the principle Human rights activists principle nor does it show honesty.

  • Tewelde gebremariam

    Hi G.Gebru,

    Yes, you are right there were feudal lords who were feuding against each other at the time but ,with exception of Tegaru, none of them resorted to committing treason by becoming an accomplice of an invading foreign agent. Adding insult to the injury, kasa crowned himself a king of the country by forcefully silencing others with the guns he received not only from General Napier but also from British colonial government he subsequently continued to receive as its loyal puppet. And once he silenced the feudal lords, he attempted to look patriotic by launching a Genocidal war on all Ethiopian Muslims but in the end he succumbed to his bigotry in the hands of the Mehadists who crossed into Ethiopia to avenge a follow Muslims. But he was successful in exterminating nearly all Muslims in Tigrai, of which the now dead Meles boasted about in his interview with Paul Henze in 1990.

    • Asmerom

      Dear Tewolde
      Wow !! What a great historian
      Really is that what u believe

  • Hayat Adem

    Dear all,
    1) Dear Ethiopians: I hope you handle your issues without violence. I hope this is something to pass without more destruction and killings. As I see it, this is the best time for Ethiopians that needs to be protected from spoilers.
    2) Dear Eritreans: Regardless of events in Ethiopia, today’s Eritrea’s problems are as much worse or worser (sic, self) than they were yesterday. If Ethiopia’s problems can in any way translate to Eritrea’s situation, it is only in worsening it not in any other way. The sense of the “we are okay compared…” seems to be being deceptively advanced by PFDJ supporters.

    • Nitricc

      Hayat, what do you mean “Dear Ethiopians: I hope you handle your issues without violence.” Remember I used warn you time and again when you keep predicating civil war for Eritrea and then I kept telling you to carful what
      you wish for others it might come to bit you. When you people wishing PIA to
      dye, the death of angle took PMMZ. Now, the very same civil war wish you had for Eritrea came to your backyard and your country is in a blink of civil war.
      “2) Dear Eritreans: Regardless of events in Ethiopia, today’s Eritrea’s problems are as much
      worse or worser (sic, self) than they were yesterday. If Ethiopia’s problems can in any way translate to Eritrea’s
      situation, it is only in worsening it not in any other way. The sense of the “we are okay compared…” seems to be being deceptively advanced by PFDJ supporters.”

      Again you are wrong; Ethiopian government is busy killing its youth while the Ethiopian people are burying their children. In Eritrea; the government is busy opening national expos while the people are enjoying the show. The truth! So, Ms, Adam, time is up for your TPLF. The right thing to do is stop the killings, it makes thing only worst and find peaceful solution. You know like saying; okay, well com Ginbot-7 and TPDM. TPLF is done for good!

      • Hayat Adem

        Nitricc my dear,
        Can you stop advising others while you have not enough clues for yourself let alone to spare one for others? You need to have it first to be able to give it to others. Do you really understand what I’m saying here!

        • Kim Hanna

          Selam Hayat Adem,
          .
          No, he does not.
          .
          Do you know he supports the Ethiopian oppositions like his president PIA.
          The Ethiopian opposition have as their core belief that part of Eritrea is Ethiopian territory.
          .
          PIA and Nittricc cannot see beyond their noses. At least, charitably, PIA could be thinking that he may never get to that bridge to cross, while Nitricc is not thinking at all.
          .
          Mr. K.H

        • Nitricc

          Hayat i don’t think you have any clue have far this is gone.

          Enjoy

          http://mereja.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=121128&sid=5350068880c296c5ecba71250735deca

          • Hayat Adem

            Nitricc my dear,
            This is how it works: I still read you when my time allows and allows me enough to even read Nitricc. But I’ve long stopped opening into your links because I exactly found them to be so predictable and now I can’t open them any more without being curious. So, have no bother to give me links if I don’t ask for them.

    • G. Gebru

      Dear,
      I second you.

    • Abi

      Hi Hayat,
      My hope is the government will take this opportunity to correct its cheating. It’s been long the government resort to killing to suppress any kind of protest. The government can’t keep cheating and killing its way out. It looks like the leaders are brain dead when it comes to politics.
      The problem is they took the meto bemeto sham seriously . The people are saying enough is enough.

      Berhe
      I think the universities are closed for summer. ( I mean it is winter over there) . I fear the government will extend the winter break to avoid further complicating the situation.
      The best solution is to learn from history and install good governance. The people have been extremely tolerant. They are not asking too much.
      The sad thing is while the leaders closed their eyes and brain and cheating, the people are watching with sharp eyes.

      I hope and pray the Eritrean government is smart enough not to involve in this situation.

      • Berhe Y

        Dear Abi,

        I don’t think the Eritrean government have any capability even if it wants to get involved. I will not be surprised that IA would want to add fuel to the fire and stir things up, but I think he knows this can backfire and it means the end of him. Even if it wants to get involved, I think what it can do is, probably give media attention via it’s satellite and let the people inside the country know the situation.

        But honestly, I don’t think this magnitude can be any work of anybody but that people. Even the Ethiopian opposition groups seem to get caught by surprise and they don’t even know what to do.

        The way I read it, 2005 was the wake up call for the Ethiopian government. Instead of opening up the political space and give more room to the other opposition groups, by cracking down on all political forces and journalist (including legitimate opposition member) they just postponed the problem, because they were able to identify the leaders and put a lid to the problem for some time but I don’t think they completely solved it.

        Here is what was posted at aigaforum.com from today. I think it’s safe to assume, what they write is what the file and rank of EPRDF directions / advise will be taking.

        “To All,
        There was nothing the security people could not handle with the on going extremist sponsored demonstrations. The only new thing we found was some from the legal opposition group in Ethiopia have joined some of the extremist sponsored demonstrations in few cities. Even though extremists that could not see eye to eye in normal circumstances tried to coordinate the demonstration from far away land, the vast majority of Ethiopians (Amhara and Oromo) did not participate in the demo! Gondar is calm but we are told from our reliable source the authorities have decided to enforce law and order and will arrest those responsible!– Aigaforum 08-06-16”.

        I don’t think they are willing to entertain any peaceful resolution to the problem. By stating the demonstrations as “extremist sponsored”, they are really reducing the real issue.

        I think what happens to Eritrea is least of the Ethiopian people’s problems. If you see the sign (cross hands), it’s sophisticated method of peaceful resistance they are implementing. They are not just average street kids, they are sophisticated, and they are using sophisticated method of organizing the people, like those in Egypt, Ukraine and Serbia.

        Berhe

        • Abi

          Hi Berhe Hawey
          I blame everything on this extremely backward ethnic politics. TPLF brought it hoping to ride it to eternity.
          I still believe there is a chance to correct mistakes. The problem is the ruling party is deaf, blind, and extremely backward. When are they going to get it right?
          They just can’t kill their way out. The stupid ethnic politics they introduced will be the cause for their demise.

          • Dear Abi,

            Ethnic politics is the magic spell under which Ethpians were made to live and thus lost their innocence. Now, they are damned with ethnic federalism and equally damned with out it. It is impossible to do away with it. The only thing one can do is to give it a democratic face, and leave it to wither away with time, if possible. One main advantage i see in it is that no one ethnic group can rule over others for long. Unless TPLF takes the message and puts in order its house and works on equal terms with the other members of the EPRDF, it will be the major loser. Of course, the ultimate victim will be ethiopia, and the horn will find itself in a major turmoil, and all nation in the region will suffer a lot. Nevertheless, i believe that we will never reach there. To the disappointment of her enemies, Ethiopia will be around for ever.

          • blink

            Dear Horizon
            come on , how long is this going ? TPLF is history nothing to talk ,but EPRDF is going to lose big and that means the birth of article 39 .

          • Amde

            Ato blink,

            Not going to happen. I guarantee it.

            Amde

          • Abi

            Hi Amdachin
            You are bad! Why don’t you let him rejoice for a little longer?
            Good to see you.

          • Amde

            Lij Abi,

            I was in Addis Ababa a couple of weeks ago. The talk was all about Gonder. And when people get bored they tune in to these amarigna dubbed soap operas on this Infernal new TV channel called KanaTV. I think I learned more than I wanted to hear about “Zara enna Chandra”. Attended weddings. Went through a few bureaus “wede qutir sost yihidu” ” sostegna foq hedew arat gilibach yaseru”. Got alternatively scammed and well served by listros, street vendors, etc..

            In other words normal chaotic living. Nobody is ignorant of what is happening. But nobody is panicking. I think most people see the current situation as an inevitable outcome of Ihadeg power monopoly and its imposed policies. Ye meto be meto wuTetu zero be zero endayhon hulum yasibal. So call me delusional but these current events will be ushering in something different but for the better.

            Yihenin tadiya le Ato Blink tolo mabser habeshawi gideta aydelemin?

            Amde

          • Abi

            Amdachin
            This is also my hope EPRDF will learn ( hopefully?) a thing or two that people are sick and tired of this marginalization. Something good must be coming out of this. Kaldeferese ayTeram!
            People are tired of ” yetsebay wancha “. They are demanding something better.
            Bichawun yebela bichawun yimotal
            Bichawun yeroTe menged lay yiqeral.

            Amdachin, min addis qeld semah?

          • Amde

            lij Abi,

            Have I told you of the chinese railway worker in Dessie who got beaten by the Turkish railway worker? After the beatdown, he was found weeping, siqsiq bilo eyalaqese.

            “Tadiya minnew taleqsaleh?” bilut
            “Weyne gud honku! bagere tedebedebku!” ale yibalal..

          • Abi

            Getaw!
            Endih new enji!
            ” Begeza daboye lib libun aTahut ” hone negeru.

          • Hayat Adem

            Hi Abi,
            I need your help if I got this political joke right: When asked why the Chinese was weeping, he said “I am bitter and pained because I was beaten in my own country”. The Chinese are overpopulating Ethiopia and feeling comfortable.

          • Amde

            Hi Hayat,

            Yes, that is the joke. There are so many Chinese, and they have been in Wollo for so long, they are known almost as a fixture. The Turks are new.

            It is one of the surprises I get whenever I travel back. Each time I go I notice newer and more overt signs of Chinese influence. It used to be Chinese restaurants popping up in smaller out of the way places, but now you drive down the main Bole road and there are multiple storey building with huge neon flashing Mandarin signs on them (no Amharic or English text mind you)

            Amde

          • Abi

            Hi Qonjit
            No wonder we are over 100 million.
            Joke for you
            This Addis girl gave birth from a Chinese dude. Her parents came to help her from the countryside. After she got back her strength and after the baby’s baptism, the girl told her parents that it is time for them to go home.
            The parents replayed ” yeliju ayin sayigeleT?”
            I hope you got it. If not Amde is around to tell it better.

          • iSem

            Hi Abi:
            There is an other one: an Ethiopian got a baby from Chinese and the infant died after few days. When curios visitors asked who was teh father, someone replied that his dad is Chinese, the questioned replied, bqedemus nai China aqha!

          • Abi

            Hi Sem
            Translation please. I hate to miss a good joke.

          • iSem

            Hi Abi
            dros ye China eqqa meche yrebal

          • Abi

            Hi Sem
            This one is ” loaded “. It has two meanings.
            1) the ” thing ” is not good
            2) it is not fertile. ( ayrebam = leErbata ayihonim, ayibazam)

          • Nitricc

            Hey Abi, i know you guys are all in it but what the teb-taba Weyane tried to say was is that there was an Ethiopian woman who had a baby from a Chinese husband and she had a baby from the him. unfortunately, the her baby died in his infancy and as a matter of Ethiopian culture, people come to her house and they were inquiring her about the cause of her baby’s death. And the woman replied by saying…
            Ayyyy min ydereg Ene-ma awuqew neber drose ye chaina Eqa mech Edme-alew.
            loosely translated; i knew from the get go, Chinese merchandise never lasted long.
            sort of, some body may do a better job itranslate it, at least that is my understanding.

          • Abi

            Hi General
            Thanks
            What makes it even more funnier is you started by saying ” teb-taba ” and ended by suggesting somebody else to translate it better.

          • Nitricc

            Aby Ayyy ye ras abi neger; that was my own way to challenge some to do it better than me. i learned your language from the USA and i was challenge every Amara to do it better; that is all. i was bragging lol

          • Solomon

            Gash Abi,

            Xenophobia and Zica virus we can blame on TanTTu…Yes Demi Moore in Striptease or Ghost?
            I am invited to the adjacent articarticle… Apparently iSEM has successfully lead the mutaneers to go back to Egypt across the Red Sea and Iyasu lead those with resolve to Zion.
            Once more “When I move you move! Just like that.” Don Cheadle, Clooney and Ice-Cube awaits us Abie..for a stirred and not shaken Martini.
            tSAtSE

          • Rahwa

            Hi Abi,

            dros ye China eqa ! malet new

          • Solomon

            Selamat Abi, iSEM, and Hyatt:

            Though I am appreciative of iSEM’s effect on all awatistas running with the rapids in order to saranade Old Man River to allow the to cross to the proverbial Zion, allow me to tell the Princess and especially the Five Star General his joke is in very very poor taste.

          • Hayat Adem

            Lovely Abi, I got this one. I will use Amde for more complex and deeper ones. I got one for you. I heard it in Amharic and it was very sweet to retell it in the same way but can’t say it well.
            PMMZ was touring around in a rural area where he came to visit a kind of micro dam in the Gondar area. The guard of the dam was a proud confident peasant from nearby who didn’t recognize many of the officials except some from his local. His name was Abebe. Meles was talking to him directly.
            PMMZ: So Ato Abebe, this dam looks full. How much water is it holding right now?
            Abebe: Well, do your eyes see for themselves?
            (PM was losing it. He thought it wouldn’t make it easier to talk about the quantity of water contained in terms of Cubic Meters, so he tried differently.)
            PMMZ: What I mean is how deep is it? Would it sink your whole height for example?
            (Abebe looked startled. He compared his own height with the PM’s and he thought he was clearly taller than the his interviewer)
            Abebe: getaw, why don’t you try it yourself and see if it spares you?
            [PMMZ was laughing but one from the local officials was very angry at the disrespect the man showed to the PM. He kind of pulled Ato Abebe and confronted him.]
            Official: Do you have a problem of shutting your mouth if you don’t have anything worthy to say to comrade PM Meles other than mocking on his height?
            Abebe: What? That man is PM Meles! I didn’t know that was him. But, he started the talk himself, I didn’t do anything wrong?

          • Abi

            Hi Qonjit
            Thanks. That is a typical Gondere.
            Zemedochen meche aTahuwachew.
            Seriously though, is that micro dam in Gonder? It must be somewhere in Mendefera. We don’t do small scale things. We do only GRAND stuff.
            Gonder tewarede!!!
            Eri bel Gonder!!

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Amde,
            .
            Glad to hear from you. I am glad you were able to visit Addis.
            .
            I hope you drop in every now and then to inform us of the day to day facts on the ground. The theoreticians at Awate University were getting wild by the day.
            .
            Mr. K.H

          • Amde

            Selam KH,

            It was a rather unforeseen set of family issues that had me travelling to Ethiopia recently but i dont anticipate that to happen over the next year or so. But I am willing to share what I saw/heard….

            Talking to people from various areas you hear the Oromo protests are still going strong. I spoke to someone from the Harar area who confirmed it to me.. he described i as a big challenge to Ehadeg. Remember when they started they were mostly a Shewa phenomena.

            The Gonder flareup was just more intense. To me Gonderies are like Texans. Big, brash, confident and very comfortable in their multiple identities. It is one of my fondest wishes to see the ethnic federation system done away with and a Gonder flag take its place as one of the successor units. In any case, I am not sure what set of events led to the Welqayit issue becoming such a flashpoint in Gonder. Dessie couldn’t be bothered about it for example. But now it is morphing into more political issues. Activists are trying to push it into an ethnic Amhara issue, and they may quite succeed. Two weekends ago it was told to me that the city of Gonder was basically out of government control, with regional and Federal police just observing and doing nothing else. Things could have been ugly, but apparently a Gonder city team won a regional soccer tournament and the weekend became an opportunity to celebrate rather than riot.

            If you allow me to be theoretical, the fact that these activities have been going on so long and reach such intense levels in the country’s major urban areas says to me the Ihadeg system itself is dysfunctional. I would venture to say the “ethnic franchise” model that Ihadeg has used is no longer working. Both OPDO and ANDM are caught between representing “their” people’s demands, and serving the dictates of the center. I just don’t see how these disturbances would have continued so long if these parties were just co-ercive arms of the state. And predictably just as last year there were calls to “cleanse” OPDO of its “rent seekers and narrow nationalists”, there are now calls to “cleanse” the ANDM of its “rent seekers and chauvinists”. Good luck with that.

            On balance, these are all very good things for the future of the country’s politics. I am just saddened by the loss of life.

            Amde

          • Yoty Topy

            Hi Amde,

            Welcome back. No hurry for the Yegebi gibja. I can wait:)

            You know, it finally dawned on me that ethnic based political configuration has outlived its usefulness and time to park it in a museum. I have always summarily dismissed it whenever people present it. But looking at the events that have unfolded this year, I think it is about time to say goodbye. It was very instrumental as a mobilizing agent in the struggle to uproot Derge but I see no use in today’s Ethiopia. This doesn’t mean that there hasn’t been or is still doesn’t exist the marginalization of minorities. We have to be cognizant of that but still need to move on.

          • Nitricc

            Hey Amde, i bet you that you and all the Amara said the same thing when TPLF went to pick arms and said i will control and destroy Amara. look what happen, they bend you for the last 25 years. the moral of the story is never say never and never guarantee anything. learn from your own history.

    • Dear Hayat Adem,

      Is Ethiopia at a cross-road? The answer could be yes and no. On one hand we have an opposition that is ready to exploit the grievances of the people, to create an unstable situation, but not strong enough to bring a positive change, and on the other hand, there is an Ethiopian government that is deaf to the grievances of the people, and still believes in might is right, and is ready to quell with force any decent.

      PMHMD’s announcement last Friday adds fuel to the fire rather than mitigate the crisis, when he prohibited demonstrations and gave the right to the security forces to use any means available to them to prevent demonstrations, which is equivalent to a shoot to kill order. This is a worrying situation.

      It is the responsibility of the Ethiopian government not to play permanently deaf to the grievances of the people, and it should respond immediately to the complaints of the people of Wolqait, and in addition, correct the social, economic and political domination by a small group of people, and implement robust democracy. On the other hand, the opposition should not be blind to the dangers for Ethiopia for the sake of power, and it should choose the non-violent way. Those who dream of creating their own ethnic enclave on the demise of Ethiopia will have non of the two.
      Finally, I believe that ethiopians will overcome this problem too as they have overcome many other problems in the past.

      • Nitricc

        Hei Abi and Horizon.

        It is amazing the Ethiopians don’t understand their own issue. Reading Abi and Horizon’s comment; one will confuse them with a white westerner commenting on Ethiopia’s current issues. I have no idea you guys failed to understand your core issue? It is not like ordinary people demanding some rights from their government.
        Nothing is new when people rise-up and demand things; even dislike their governments. But when people are coming out at this rate and race and ethnicity is the main driving force, well, you got a problem. Nothing got to do with rights and everything has to do with one race and ethnic group becoming a superior at the expense of the great majority. As far as I can see, there is no way this government can ride this storm. Too late! Once a government shading its own citizens blood then its time is up.

      • welde

        Dear Horizon,

        I don’t which part of the world you are living,but can you name a country where you are allowed to demonstrate with out asking and getting permission from the authorities concerned? Surely if you do that in USA. the police and FBI will make sure you will be listed as terrorist and dealt with as is.So what PMHD said was this – you are allowed to demonstrate provided you have asked for it and the authorities are informed and approved it Like what they do in USA.. that’s all what he said.

        regards,

        • blink

          Dear Mr. K.M , Hayat , Horizon

          The Ethiopia of today is somehow similar to the Yugoslavia of of 1990’s, the civil war in Yugoslavia was caused by the dissatisfaction of the Ethnic nationalities with the federal government. I think there must be some thing boiling over more dangerous than we see on tight mouth of western media and some EPRDF friends media organization be it Eritrean opposition webistes including awate.com and others . If 100 people said no it means there is a factor , if 500,000 people said enough there is for sure a fundamental issues to be solved . we have seen this before not far in 1990. Yugoslavian Civil War occurred because the country was initially created as a federation of diverse ethnic states, and once central government was no longer strong enough to keep them all together, the patchwork nation began to fall apart. In 1990, Slovenia, Croatia and Macedonia agitated for independence, but Yugoslavian president Slobodan Milosevic refused to address their demands. Then followed by the heavy military intervention from the Federal government. No matter how harsh the course was and how strong militarily the Federal government was, it ended up with the termination of once the very strong military of Yugoslavia in eastern Europe and the emerging of many ethnic based countries. Ethiopia is following almost very similar course. Cracks are already there and many more may follow to make things fall a parts. I think it is time to understand and lay down contingency plans for the very possible humanitarian catastrophes that could happen in the poverty ravaged east african country, no matter how the leaders in place try to cover the real situation, Ethiopia is in the brick of chaos and total disaster

        • Dear Welde,

          In the country i live demonstrations are among the most important democratic rights of citizen. They are not required to give any explanations why they are carrying out rallies, which is almost always against the government, but only where and when, so that traffic will be regulated, and even this not all the time. The police will follow from a distance to see if things get out of control, and they never use lethal weapons. I do not remember a case in which a life was lost during demonstrations. Therefore, it is not comparable with that which happens in ethiopia.

          This is what the PM said according to Aljazeera: “Prime Minister Haile Mariam Dessalegn on Friday announced a ban on demonstrations, which “threaten national unity” and called on police to use all means at their disposal to prevent them.” The key word and phrase are “ban and use all means at their disposal“. I do think that this is a disturbing development.
          Regards.

          • welde

            Dear Horizon,
            I heard what he,PMHD, said first hand infoormation, unlike Aljazera’s 2nd hand info received through interpreters. PMHD never said ‘no demonstration’, all he said was the demonstration should have owned by someone or group , so that it would be conducted peacefully., That is what you do in USA., you request permission with explanation as to the purpose of demonstration, with request granted from the authority you do your rallies, anything else is not correct. You should investigate how they do it in USA.

            regards,

    • Kim Hanna

      Selam Hayat Adem,
      .
      I yearn for the day where a SIMPLE majority of Eritreans hope and wish for us the way you do.
      One of the regulars at Awate was urging the Amharas and Oromos to fight for their DIGNITY a couple of days ago, what an ignorance.
      .
      Ethiopia in spite of the remarkable progress it was making by any world standard had faced a rather difficult and challenging problems in the last few years.
      Putting aside the external problems, (Somalia, South Sudan and Eritrea) the Ethiopian Government faced a monumental drought that exposed a large portion of its poor citizens to danger. The Gov. has orchestrated to mitigate the problem with their steady and effective management, unlike the previous two Governments.
      .
      The current problems in Oromia and Amhara regions are not as existential threats as the drought. In spite of some of the Ethiopian oppositions in Asmara and else where who see revolution and civil strife as their vehicle to power, I have confidence the Government will be able to address the problems in a reasonable and effective way.
      One of the reasons among many for my confidence is because a large portion of the leadership on these two regions are themselves from these regions.
      .
      In recent past there was an attempt to use Religion as the fault line by these same anti-gov. entities. They will keep looking for any problem of adjustments to their advantage. When we see foreigners including the Eritrean Gov. that is a conduit for all sorts destabilization operation, one has to be careful and far sighted to deal with it.
      .
      I am not denying the existence of problems. Some of the former Ethiopian leaders are publicly IN ETHIOPIA are pointing them out for public discussion. There are many good Ethiopians who disagree with me.
      However, I believe the current Government with its track record is best to handle this and many other problems that will arise.
      .
      Mr. K.H

    • Yoty Topy

      Hi Hayat,
      “Regardless of events in Ethiopia, today’s Eritrea’s problems are as much worse or worser (sic, self) than they were yesterday.”

      When Ethiopia sneezes , Eritrea catches a cold as it goes . Every time there is an internal strife , EPRDF seems to make a habit of lashing out at Eritrea . I see a similar response underway. To cover their incompetence , they are very much likely to take measures that would divert attention.

      • Abi

        Hi Yoty
        I agree with you. Believe me the government will do anything to divert the attention towards Eritrea instead of focusing on finding a lasting solution.

    • blink

      Dear Miss hayat Adem
      I completely agree with your no.2 not quite with no.1 , I understand this is a very tough situation for you ,semer Andom , Amanuel hidrat , T.kifle , Eyob and others who strongly support EPRDF at any cost. What you did not understand or simply try to play it down is that “this is not going with out destruction or killings nor does it from spoilers . ref .you can just see amesty , aljazeera , BBC and so many Ethiopian websites. You may try your best to give it cold but the facts are not on your side.

      But i was wondering why you said ” I hope Your issues …..” it is mind boggling you try to distance yourself from the Mrs, or Miss RIGHT .

  • G. Gebru

    Dear Tewelde, greetings and thank you for your interest on my comments.
    To begin with we have to differentiate between the fighting one takes on to defend the soverinty of ones country and civil disobdience that eminates from poor administration from ones central givernment.
    For example the wars Ethiopians took against invading Turks, Egyptians and the Italians, such as the battle of Gundet, Kufit in the western lowland of todays Eritrea and the mother of all battles the battle of Adwa are the examples of the first.
    Secondly Ethiopia in its long histrory had period known as the Era of the Rases(ዘበነ መሳፍንት) when different regions had their own chieftains who wanted to administer themselves with out others interference with out denying their Ethiopian identity. It was only the matter of domination for these and others reasons battles were fought among themselves. So what you mentioned about the great King Thedroses case comes within this context.
    The 1846 Weyanai uprising you mentioned even though I can not say what their intention was it is true the central government of that time took action and quelled it. For your information there were other similar uprisings in Gojam, Begemder and other place which were quelled by the same method.
    About the 1977 liquidetion of the EPRP first of all it was the out come of the then cancerous socialist dogma they were following and took it as the state of the art thing that will bring out Ethiopia from the then Emperial government and its feudal system of governing with out taking into consideration of the configaration of the Ethiopian social formation be it ethnical, geographical, historical, religious and other components of the whole society. And it is the narrow mindedness the TPLFs developed during that time that led them to divide the country into ethinc regions that they thought will create them the comfort they need to ran suck Ethiopia.
    Finally with due respect to all those who are working for technological advancement of our world at the end of the day technology might be able to change ecology but can not change historical facts unless it wants to change its colour.
    Thanks.

  • Solomon

    Selamat Mr. David Letterman,

    Ahhh hey Dave, Dave.. Ahhh I do believe we are experiencing a lull Sir. Yes A lull.

    How about we as General Nitric and Five Star General iSEM a this question:

    Since due ti the corrupt TPLF, all of our oppressed peoples are rising to liberate themselves and the corrupt TPLF with the help of the Crushers Mazungu West continue to oppress our people in Badume by refusing to respect international ruling, Is NOW not the optimal time to MOVE and crush the corrupt TPLF once and for all?
    The oppressed people have risen and are standing up to TPLF because all over Ethiopia. Welqait and Gonder for land the Weyane are trying to cheat the oppressed people. Why not the GoE to get back the Badume lands?

    The oppressed people have moved. And there is a lull here with regards to production.

    I have the Modler, so what do you say Dave? “When I move you move! Just like that.”
    tSAtSE

    • Hope

      Tsatse:
      No need to be emotional and no rush to take over Baduma militarily now as we might be closer to getting it back peacefully .
      Let the Ethiopians handle their business by themselves in a less bloody way.
      Plus,this can be a transient and temporary hiccup.
      But I would be surprised if the Ethiopian Majority do not get what they deserve from this uprising.
      Equal Social and Economic Justice and fair distribution of all Resources.
      ERITREANS should learn something from this massive uprising .

      • Solomon

        Selamat Hope and Nitric,

        David says “Blame it on Rio!” Hope take note on the USA’ gymnastics trainers’ Imoji expressions. Nitric is into Picachu I bet.
        I thought Abi was Guad LiQue or LiQuor Menbur ye Sebat Gun-Boat?
        Back to Rio, hey Michael Keaton we ain’t blaming nothing on Rio. We know it is our TestaStoroni Pbasta at fault.
        tSAtSE

        • Abi

          Hi Solomon
          LiQuor Menbur is very creative. Gun-boat is even better.
          Hey, Blame it on Rio is one of my favorites. I think Demi Moore ( Nikki) was at her best. Young and beautiful.
          Took me back years….

        • Hope

          Sellie:
          Am afraid that the history of 1991 might be repeating itself!
          Ed shenahit tsenahit and they might pay the price.
          I feel bad and pray for the poor Tireyan Majority in particular and the Ethiopians in general.

          The Lord might have thought that the suffering of both peoples is ENOUGH.

          I say to them:
          Never undermine your enemy!

          • Solomon

            Hope:
            My Imoji and the USA Gymnastics team may have been lost on you with my coded thing…
            You may even be able to google it if watching the Olympics…. It is a perfect Ten for the USA gymnastics coaches.. We may see C, Nadia’s 10 10 10 with FourtyTwo percent converted and base Ten inverted probabilities, I am tempted to address you next time by your Sir. And given name. Imoji face however dictates that 10 10 10 is Certain in base Two.
            “Zura ba hagerka Temita tAzeba, Habtam btefeTro…” is commendable and no one can argue against that.
            On to the Imoji. Are you ready for Hyatt Mr.TrumpHope?
            tSAtSE

    • Nitricc

      Hey TsaTse; taking Badime by force will be the greatest mistak ever by the government of Eritrea. TPLF is gone as far I can see, so all Eritrea have to do is sit tight and Gibot-7 will deliver Badime in a silver platter. At end of the day the rule of law must be implimented. When TPLF tested the waters in Jun 12 by ataking Tsorona front the whole idea was a test to see where the rest of Ethiopians stand when it comes to the issue with Eritrea and the Ethiopians told the the TPLF that they are in their own. The Ethiopians didn’t give a flying hoot. That is why the talk of going war with Eritrea died a sudden death. The story is NaAana Zibelwo Abatom Tetwiyu Wedi Tikul song comes to mind.

      • Hope

        Bingo Gen Nittric:

        Did U just come from Sawa?

        It sounds like!

        If u really have a chance to tour Eritrea from N to S;from E to W and if u have a chance to attend the Sawa and the Old Bologna Festivals in Asmera and if you visit the Dams and the Seven New Colleges,you could have even developed a way better positive attitude and you could have declared like my newly Graduate Cousin from MN declared:”I care less about a job and salary in the USA but to volunteer as a Teacher and Counsellor in the Bushes and Fields of Eritrea after her Mom,an Abay Barka -Tesenei grown Blenayit ERITREAN took her young daughter for a Tour of Eritrea all the way from Asmera to Sawa via Keren Wo Akordet then back to Asmera via Barentu Ze Midre Kunama followed by another Tour to Seminawi Bahri all the way to Karora Wo Nacfa.

        She missed the Dankalia Trip but reserved it for her next Trip!

        She came also across some ugly things and experience but she took it positively .

        But hey,while S Sudan and Ethiopia are going through some Tsunami,there is a relative Serenity in the so called the ” N Korea” of Africa.
        Go and see it with your own eyes.

        There is HOPE and LIGHT at the end of the Tunnel.
        We need to THANK/praise the Lord!

  • Berhe Y

    Dear Teazeb,

    Yes you are right. As a matter of fact non of them looked like athletes, and it’s disappointing. I has wished Daniel Teclehaimsnot carried the flag, but perhaps may be because he had race the next day (over 6 hours).

    But you remember in the last time, the flag bearer defected in London right after the games.

    Honestly Ethiopia athletes looked too few to me, 18 I think while Kenya had 57 or something.

    Berhe

  • G. Gebru

    Dear brothers and sisters,
    Selamat.
    Contrary to what many of you are wishing and predicting disitegrated Ethiopia will be the prelude for peace and stability to the Horn, it is only a united, prosperous and strong Ethiopia that guarantes peace nd stability in our region. Yes the TPLF’s handling of the countries affairs was not sincer but at the end of the day it is back firing on them as a political group. As for the masses of the Tigrian people along with their other Ethiopian counter parts will be a part and parcel of taking the necessary corrective mesures to bring back a united Ethiopia free of ethnical divissions. They will go for one country under one flag. History is a wittness that Tigrians always fell on the boundries of this nation to protect it from foriegn invaders and their local cronies. The history spoilers like the TPLFs and…….
    As for the bad wishers God bless them with wisdom.
    Thanks.

    • Dear G. Gebru,

      If you look at the geography of the horn, Ethiopia is situated in the center and she has borders with almost all countries. This gives her the priority to act as an anchor state that joines together all the countries of the region, socially, politically and economically. If the economy is given the priority, roads, railways, power lines, ect are developed to join these countries together and peace prevails, a big and stable market of about 200m people will result. There will be trade, a robust economy will develop that will attract foreign investment, and the outcome will be a prosperous Horn of Africa different from the war-torn and poverty-stricken region we all know.

      • Nitricc

        Hi Horizon; amazing you have a typical corrupted mentality. you said ” If the economy is given the priority, roads, railways, power lines, ect …..”
        NO, Horizon, the priority must be and given to the rest of the people with dignity and equality. you must treat them as equal and as any of you. Why do you think all Ethiopia is against you? greed and disrespecting people has its limits. so, always start with the people giving the respect they deserve and treat them with absolute dignity, that should be your priority. not the toothless roads and the fake high rise buildings.

        • Abi

          Hi Nitricc
          You failed to give an example where absolute dignity of the people is being practiced like Eritrea.
          There , I did it for you.
          Genzebka.

          • Nitricc

            Hey Abi what your African mentality failed you is that Eritrea leaders are leading the country to where Eritrea ought to be, not necesarly where the people want to be, I think there is a very fine line between the two. again, African mentality is a horrible disease and Eritrea is the only country fighting it to death. I hope you get it.

          • Abi

            Hi Militia Wetader Nitricc
            I got it, buddy. I even imagine the ” very fine line” that is between the people and the government. This is how it works if I got your point.
            It is like a horse cart. The people are the horse , the government is the person riding the cart, the ” fine line” is the whip the person use to guide the horse.
            Do you know why a horse pulling a cart can’t see sideways?
            BTW, you are demoted.
            Che ferese Che!!!!

          • Solomon

            Dear Gash Abi,

            No no no! In Eritrea they use the donkey and cuccineta to transport the srnay.Those militia those! Has the goat fattned enough, my pallete is craving for Jerked Goat or Jerked Galina ShaShamene Jamican spicy!
            tSAtSE

        • Nitricc,
          A corrupted mind thinks that all minds are corrupted. It is a matter of perception.
          Let me ask you this simple question. Is there a moment you have ever demanded from the Eritrean regime for dignity and equality for your own people? Of course, not. Blood is thicker than water; you are more Ethiopian than Eritrean. Accept it.

          • Nitricc

            Horizon; what your African, tribal and weyanay mentality won’t let you know is that i am guided by the supreme principle of justice to all humanity. of course i am Ethiopian when the people of Ethiopia are killed and oppressed. let alone the people of Ethiopia, i will stand to every human and humanity when they are oppressed and treated unjustly because it is my core value the supreme principles of justice. unlike you and the other hypocrites, i don’t compromise when it comes to justice and humanity. victory to the people of Ethiopia and i stand with them.
            Ethiopia Lezelalme Tunur!

          • Nitricc,

            You are trying to act it clean and clever, the act of the wolf in sheep’s clothing. Unfortunately for you, we are the wrong audience, and you are on the wrong stage. Everybody knows your track record, and you cannot fool anybody by saying that you stand for lofty ideas. Your words are witness against you, however you might paint yourself. Do you deny you called eritrean refugees cowards, non-eritreans, economic migrants, if they get drowned in their hundreds in the Med. Sea, or get raped and their internal organs harvested in the Sinai, it is not the responsibility of the Eritrean government, and many more. These are some examples of your “supreme principles of justice to all humanity” you are proud of. Please, tell it to somebody else who does not know you.

          • Nitricc

            Horizon I understand this is not good time for you. There is no way you can understand what I am saying and respond in such matter. I do understand the situation you are in. So, perhaps I will try to knock some sense to your senseless self. One thing though, you never EVER compromise what is just!

            “Do you deny you called eritrean refugees cowards”
            NO, I don’t deny and i stand 100% behind it.

    • Tewelde gebremariam

      Hi G.Gebru,

      But how do you reconcile your statement—–history is a witness that tigrians always fell on the boundaries of this nation———–with the tigaru collaboration with the invading army of General Napier in killing the reigning king , Tedros, and ransacking the country’s Treasuries ?

      What about the 1946 tegaru uprising to secede from Ethiopia? Wasn’t it the fierce and immediate air and land bombardment that forced them to submit?

      And what do you think was the reason Woyane wiped out EPRP from Asimba 1977? Wasn’t the underlying reason Ethiopians were in Tigrai?

      Mr.G.Gebru,
      Attempting to distort historical facts when technology has literally placed any information at the tips of our fingers is opening Pandora Box, you lose.

  • Abi

    Hi Teazabi
    Abi qine siqagn Berhe yizerfal
    Andandu sitazeb lelaw yifokral!
    Tesfa yeqoreTe Amlak yileminal.
    Bandira angbo meTfiyawun yalmal.

    • Hope

      Abi:
      Does that poem or Kinnie apply to the Oromo defectors too?
      Just curious!

  • Kim Hanna

    Selam Hope,
    .
    I don’t know what you are reading.
    You got a coded Ill wish to Eritrea and Eritreans message “from that prism”. I think you suck.
    What I was telling Yoty was that the Ethiopian opposition in Eritrea, if they had their way, all the way, they want to annex part of Eritrea as part of Ethiopian territory. That is their core belief. PIA knows this but for the moment he thinks they are useful to him so he supports them to destabilize Ethiopia. He does not believe the crossing of the bridge will be a reality. Can you see that prism, that I was inviting Yoty to look at before he sides with them, as you do. Them is PIA and Ethiopian oppositions in Asmara.
    .
    Mr. K.H

  • tes

    Dear said,

    I wish your contributions are put in a column by the AT admin. Most of the time your take is very informative though not communicative.

    @AT, I think it is good idea to harvest said’s contribution as a unique contribution.

    tes