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Peering into the Cagey Politics of the Horn of Africa

The summit that leaders of Eritrea, Ethiopia, and Somalia held in the Ethiopian cities of Gondar and Bahir Dar in early November is a landmark event in the evolving politics of Africa’s Horn Region. The event’s significance derives not so much from the meeting’s own merits as from the clues it provides on the political thinking of Ethiopia’s Prime Minister Abiy and Eritrea’s President Isaias who have been the prime movers of the notion of “integrating” and “uniting” the countries of the region. To be sure, these enigmatic leaders have leagued together in a grand political mission – bilateral and regional in scope – whose genesis is as mysterious as what it truly intends to achieve.

First and foremost, it was astounding to see the leaders forging a much-publicized alliance almost immediately following PM Abiy’s announcement that his government had accepted the UN-sponsored border ruling. It is all the more so when one considers that: (i) an ugly, two-year war followed by a bitter, eighteen-year-long hostility had kept their two countries at each other’s throat until barely two months before the announcement, and (ii) the resulting peace deal carried no serious commitment by either party to ensuring that the ruinous consequences of the conflict are addressed and the political/economic disputes which led to a war that wrought so much devastation, bloodshed and human suffering are resolved.

Instead, Abiy and Isaias chose to make “regional integration” the overarching theme of their alliance which they formalized by a ‘Joint Declaration of Peace and Friendship’ on July 9 in Asmara, Eritrea. Two months later, they were joined by their Somali counterpart in signing a tripartite ‘Joint Cooperation Agreement’. But here too, they have fallen short: Just a list of the five aspects of the treaty, termed “pillars”, is all that has been made public about the former; no details are known for the latter. In the months since the leaders have provided neither a coherent articulation of the vision they claim to champion nor a roadmap for its realization. Instead, what has been witnessed is a steady stream of empty rhetoric on “integration and unity” accompanied by a fast-paced sequence of diplomatic shuttles, state visits, summit meetings, agreement-signing ceremonies and bestowal of civilian national awards among the players themselves and/or involving their Middle Eastern patrons: the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia (KSA) and the United Arab Emirates (UAE).

The Making of Political Conspiracy

Early last November, Ethiopia’s Amhara Regional State hosted a two-day “political bazaar” that the central government put on display without explaining its true objective(s). The resulting spectacle was a potpourri of political events that included: a peace mission by the country’s prime minister to mediate disputes in the region, an official visit by the president of Eritrea, a “mobile” summit meeting of leaders of three neighboring countries, a showcase of the region’s historical sites and development projects, etc.[1][2] – all rolled into one and having seemingly no particular order of importance to them! The remarkable thing about this misleading hodgepodge of official functions, herein referred to as “Gondar Drama”, is that it happened not by chance, but by design.

The Gondar Drama had its origin in an August announcement that Amhara regional authorities had officially invited Eritrea’s president to visit their region.[3] From the outset, the proposed visit was mired in controversy, raising concerns and arousing suspicions and sensitivities. The president was on record of having already made two state visits to Ethiopia in as many months. Thus, yet another official visit to the same country, so soon and at the invitation of a regional government was something many deemed inconsistent with established diplomatic norms and protocols – not to mention its potential for aggravating the perilous ethnic and political tensions that continue to plague Ethiopia and for complicating still-unresolved issues with Eritrea.

The two-decade-long conflict with Eritrea into which the TPLF-government had plunged Ethiopia ended last July leaving a legacy of bitter animosity between the Eritrean leader and the TPLF. Despite Ethiopia’s recent reversal of its long-held rejectionist stance on the border ruling, the archenemies have yet to dialogue locally on modalities for implementing the ruling – an issue that seems to have hindered border demarcation. Furthermore, Tigray has been entangled in a simmering ethnopolitical tension with the Amhara region over the latter’s grievances against the preceding, Tigray-dominated federal government and contested territories along their shared state-boundary.

It was thus a foregone conclusion that the Tigrai establishment will feel threatened by a visit that smacked of a strategic alliance between Isaias Afewerki and Amhara authorities. Indeed, some observers view the visit and its facilitation by the central government as ‘unholy alliance’ aimed at weakening Tigray and severely restricting its role in the political/military life of the country.

Smokescreen for Isaias’ True Visit-agenda: The government, on its part, was not incognizant of the visit’s potential for stirring up negative public sentiments; and it seemed to go to great lengths to thwart such eventuality by attempting to control public opinion and avert possible political fallout. First, it delayed Isaias Afewerki’s visit for several weeks giving itself time to organize diversionary activities that would conceal the visit’s real objective(s) and to plan ways of controlling and manipulating information about those activities.

A review of local news reports on the subject reveals that, in the days leading up to the staging of the Gondar Drama, the government had largely remained tight-lipped about the affair.[1] The meager information it provided was released in a fragmentary and tardy manner thereby confusing the nature and significance of planned events. Highly revealing of the government’s taciturn disposition in the case was the fact that the Somali leader’s travel to Gondar was decided (and first made public by his own office) just a day before his arrival in Gondar!![4]][5]

Outcome of the “Gondar Drama? The secrecy that surrounded the launching of the Gondar spectacle was paralleled by government suppression of post-event information about its activities and their outcomes. Even when pieced together, the sketchy reports of the news outlets in the region produced nothing but a collection of semblances and distortions. The government’s attempt at deception is exemplified by the official claim that the leaders “reviewed developments and achievements… [and] …noted with satisfaction the tangible and positive outcomes already registered…” [6] regarding the tripartite agreement they signed less than five weeks prior!

Strangely, no information was released that could provide even the slightest clue of what went on between President Isaias and his hosts, the Amhara authorities, although that event was at the heart of the drama, staged in Gondar and Bahir Dar. Many political analysts now believe that the tripartite summit was nothing more than a government charade played to camouflage an event whose sole agenda was concocting a political intrigue for seizing the upper hand in an ethnic-based conflict that has been brewing up over the last six months.

Observations on Evolving Horn Politics

The political, social, economic and security challenges that confront the Horn region are not only complex in nature but are often exacerbated by the interference of major world powers. Recently, political encroachment by regional powers has added another dimension to this complexity; and the secrecy with which the leaders of Eritrea and Ethiopia are colluding with a Saudi-Emirati intrusion has thrown the future of the region into uncertainty. The void left by the dearth of information on current developments is being filled with assumptions, speculations and outlandish claims to which people are resorting in attempts to explain the present and predict the future. But, more helpful perspectives on these and related issues can emerge if the focus is placed on some key observations.

  1. No two leaders can be as dissimilar in their essential attributes – education level, age, political experience, philosophy of governance, government system presided over, etc. – as are PM Abiy and President Isaias. But, two critical factors have made them strange bedfellows: (i) The raw ambition that each leader has to become a dominant political figure in Africa’s Horn region and (ii) their willingness to serve as pawns in the regional geopolitical machinations of KSA/UAE in return for infusion of petrodollars which both need to fulfill their respective political ambitions.
  2. Somalia is already a failed state; Eritrea is a stagnating one. In contrast, Ethiopia possesses huge population, considerable natural resources and steadily-expanding economy, hence is the main target of the KSA-UAE economic agenda in the Horn. Eritrea and Somalia are significant to this agenda only in so far as they provide: (a) maritime access to Ethiopia’s trade and (b) coastal real-estate where Gulf states look to base their troops as they seek to project military power along the globally vital Red Sea-Gulf of Aden shipping lanes.
  3. The newfound idea of “integrating East Africa” is a project that the KSA-UAE coalition is pushing with the complicity of the two leaders to advance its politico-economic agenda in the Horn. This flies in the face of IGAD, a regional organization comprising eight countries of the Greater Horn and established in 1996 to promote the region’s ‘development and economic integration’. Indeed, PM Abiy’s activism is undermining the mission of an organization whose “rotating” chairmanship has remained firmly in Ethiopian hands for the last 11 years!

The outlook for the Future

It is evident that President Isaias and PM Abiy have embarked on a mission of “integrating and uniting” Eritrea, Ethiopia, and Somalia according to a foreign-devised blueprint. The Somali leader is a reluctant partner whose only motivation seems to be appeasement of Ethiopia’s government – a position likely adopted out of fear of Ethiopia’s aggression and/or in the hope of securing its assistance. On the other hand, the ambitions of the Eritrean and Ethiopian leaders are obviously the products of their contrasting backgrounds, personalities, and philosophies; hence are bound to be vastly different from each other. Thus, the real basis for their alliance may just be the cunning strategy of using each other for advancing their respective selfish agendas – the alliance’s internal contradiction with potential for bringing down one or both of the leaders and/or their mission.

At the national level, socio-political conditions under which the mission has to be accomplished are far from favorable. For starters, the leaders have little popular support for their agenda. As a hard-core tyrant, Isaias Afewerki is a nation unto himself. Somalia’s Abdulahi Mahmud has irked his country’s lawmakers, nearly a third of whom have demanded his resignation for signing a tripartite agreement that they “know nothing about”! PM Abiy is toying obsessively with the idea of making “international boundaries meaningless” in the Horn while his distressed citizens are transfixed by ethnic violence that is ripping their country apart.

The mission’s prospects are not any brighter at the regional level either. Although fellow IGAD member-states had applauded the Ethio-Eritrea peace deal, they seem to have found little sagaciousness in the “unity/integration” craze of the two leaders to offer their comments much less endorsements. More fundamentally, the countries that are ostensibly up for unification/integration are, in fact, facing grave existential threats which have set them on a path to disintegration and extinction, not to integration and amalgamation. Great leaders never allow existential threats to appear on their watch, and make salvation from inherited ones the paramount goal of their leadership. Mediocre and selfish leaders create national threats (as the Eritrean leader has) and/or allow pre-existing threats to fester while they engage in the despicable pursuit of grandeur and vengeance (as the Eritrean and Ethiopian leaders are doing).

Finally, a note on the region’s geopolitics: In 2002 following the Ethio-Eritrea war, America’s diktat brought Ethiopia, Sudan, and Yemen into the so-called Sana’a Forum Cooperation aimed at encircling and isolating Eritrea. Now, nearly two decades later and despite political posturing by Abiy and Isaias, “politics of encirclement” still dominate the region. Eritrea, Ethiopia, and Somalia are working to isolate Djibouti at the behest of the UAE.[5] Likewise, interfering in Ethiopia’s domestic rivalry, Eritrea is conspiring with the federal government and Amhara regional state to encircle and weaken the TPLF. This phenomenon (a combination of shifting geopolitics and entrenched strategy) is reminiscent of Alfonse Karr’s dictum that “the more things change, the more they stay the same”. One can only hope this potentially lethal combination will not throw the region into yet another cycle of conflict.

References

  1. com/news-second-tripartite-meeting-between..
  2. com/english/2018/11/ethiopian-eritrean-and-somalia…
  3. com/2018/08/17/eritrea-president-invited-to-visit…
  4. com/AbdinurMA/status/1060504787266031616
  5. com/hastily-prepared-tripartite-meeting-wrapped/
  6. com/stories/201811120235.html

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  • Selam All,

    Maybe we have to remember certain things that were said in the past. H. Cohen, had said, “Hey, Abyssinians, the red sea is slipping in to total control by Arabs, while you are squabbling, and the governments of the Arabian peninsula are going to eat your lunch. It is time that Abyssinians take back control of the western bank of the red sea, before it is too late. Bring peace, establish security control and jointly exploit the resources in the Red Sea.”

    Therefore, sometimes it is not a bad idea if Eritreans and Ethiopians learn to think outside their box. Such things are not said in the thin air so that it blows away with the wind and get forgotten. The west might not believe that the Sunni and Shia Muslims will be enemies forever, for Islam joins them more than the differences that separates them, and if both join hands in the future, because nothing remains the same, the whole region will be under their control. That will be the time when the red sea will indeed be an inland lake controlled by anti west powers.

    Eritrea and Djibouti are too weak to defend the western side of the red sea, hence the concentration of the big powers in this small region to protect the waterway. i do not think that the big powers want to be around forever. The power that could relieve them of such burden is welcomed, and ethiopia and eritrea are the once who are eligible.

    The Saudi families who need american protection may not be in power forever, or they may declare peace and cooperation with Iran. Therefore, a strong force that could counter this possibility is necessary, and western powers maybe thinking in this direction. Poor countries do not always decide by themselves for themselves, and there are times when they are told what to do.

    Everybody is right. There are those eritreans who invested in gedli who are worried that the independence of Eritrea is being watered down, Ethiopia says it cannot exist forever with a noose around her neck, and the west is worried that small and weak Eritrea can easily be brought under control by those who want to control the waterway, and strengthening the western shores is not a bad idea.

    Therefore, one should think in terms of a lose border, a “revolving door”, through which passage in both direction will be so easy that makes the border insignificant, as both leaders are insinuating. Is it possible to avoid such a scenario if it exists? Is it possible to erect that tall wall between the two countries to make a clean separation? Is it possible to say that ethiopia should always be on the giving side and eritrea on the taking side for a good relationship to exist between the two?

    • Amanuel

      Hi Harizon
      This is the same scare mongering used by Ethiopian elites, specially the Amhara for ages. What if the Eritreans prefer to forge alliance with the Arabs more than the Ethiopians? Had any one asked them? Eritreans priority right now is to have a constitutional government to enable them to stand on their feet.

    • Hashela

      Hi Horizon

      Thank you for ocasional reminding us who you are. A hyena remains a heyna independent whether it roams the neighborhood at night or daylight!

      Currently we have an aging and confused man as a president. His state of mind and identity crisis has not got unnoticed. The vultures are circulating and the
      hyenas are salvating. Hopefully soon, the daughters and sons of Eritrea will take care of the old man and give him a dignified and professional removal. No scent to sniff and no bone to chew for the hyenas. For Eritreans, there is no difference between Arabs, Westerners and Ethiopia. The threat they pose to our independence and territorial integrity is measured by the same stick.

      It is highly time that Ethiopia comes to its sense and develop a respectful relationship and a mutually beneficial economic cooperation with Eritrea. No more no less. A friendly greeting from your beautiful neighbor is not an invitation for more!

      You said “Ethiopia says it cannot exist forever with a noose around her neck”. Well then she should have the courage and choose a robust pole, tighten the noose and kick the chair below her.

      • Hi Hashela,

        Why do you continue to run to the hyenas? More than a quarter of a million, if not more, of your people go to this land of the hyenas for a safe passage or residence, while the only thing you provided them up to now was the reason to flee and not the reason to stay in your beautiful land.
        Why don’t you build that tall wall so that you forget about them and they in turn forget about you. Don’t you understand that the noose mz and tplf put around ethiopia’s neck is on your neck now, has been for about 2 decades and you were not aware of it. I do not know if you are calling me the “donkey” word in tigrigna, and i do not care the least.
        Tplf is thrown in to the dustbin of history by the ethiopian people and all the enemies of ethiopia too, and its future has become prison and irrelevance. A weak and disintegrated ethiopia has been a dream that will never be fulfilled. On the contrary, it is her enemies that are fighting for their survival. What we see in ethiopia is the pain of growth, and it will soon be over, and her past glory is gradually returning.
        Please know that you are not invited, just keep away if you could. You have always been a problem. No friendship is better than a bad friendship. What has not happened during the three decades of hate filled dictatorship in ethiopia, it will not happen today.
        Goodbye.

      • Mez

        Hi Hashella,

        Your approach and take is admirable.

        However, before you say: ” ….there is no difference between the Arabs, Westerners and Ethiopia ….” you better carefully look and understand the internal geopolitics of Eritrea.

        Thanks

        • Hameed Al-Arabi

          Hi Mez,

          You mean that Eritreans should divide due to “internal geopolitics”. This is as old as Haile Selase. Do you have any new trick or Ethiopians are doomed to reiterate the same ploy? True Eritreans have well informed on such kinds of craftiness. They have a lot of experience with such kind of crude maneuvers.

          Al-Arabi

        • Berhe Y

          Dear Mez,

          I agree with Hashella. There is absolutely no difference, specially when it comes to Ethiopian leaders. The Arabs, the Westerners have been a lot more kind to our lives and our existence.

          For example, the Arabs have never bothered us, at least that we know about in the past 200 years.

          The Westerner have not bothers us as much..even during Italian colonization, they have respected our culture, our religion and our identity (all our great churches and mosques) were build during their times.

          All we got from Ethiopia rule is, war, death, bombing, exodus, and destruction, Alula, Menlik, Haile Selass, Dergi and TPLF.

          Why they don’t bother Djibouti, Somalia if they want?

          Berhe

          • Nitricc

            Why they don’t bother Djibouti, Somalia if they want?

            Hi Berhe; I have thought about and the only answer I came up with is that because Djibouti and Somalia don’t eat Injera and celebrate Fasica.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Nitricc,

            No I don’t think so. Djibouti literally depend on them, but they are afraid of the French. All this gura and Half, Half actually is just towards us. They are the most loyal and timid towards the west, which they call diplomacy but they are accommodating and obliging.

            They know they don’t dare fight Somalia, because everyone knows about Somalia.

            They come to Eritrea because of our vulnerability, specially in the Kebesa region where I come from, we have this attachment that they can tap on every once in a while and play us and use it to divide us. But in all of our history, there has never been anything that we, those of us from Kebesa have gained except terror and destruction, including from those in Tigray.

            What more evidence do we want than to see how they amputated our forefathers fighting for Italians as soldiers while showing them royalty to the fascist Italians.

            In the past, I have talked about how the future Eritrean government should join the “Common Wealth countries” so that we are represented properly at the international levels and by keeping our standard high that we are capable of those who have achieved the highest form of democratic government.

            Berhe

          • Nitricc

            Greetings Berhe: I understand you mean but Eritreans are as much to be blamed. Eritrea wedged 30 years bloody war to be independent but they can’t stay away from everything Ethiopia. Eritreans are not only too invested on Ethiopian internal affairs but they are flacking to Ethiopia like there is no tomorrow. It is only human for Ethiopians to think Eritrea is back. So, I think Eritreans need to make up their mind. To be honest with you, right now Eritreans mentality seems to be Eritrea for Eritreans and Ethiopia for both. It doesn’t work that way. By the sheer number of Eritreans
            flacking to Ethiopia is enough evidence of Eritreans confusing state of mind. And if Ethiopians are confused, I can understand. Despite the confusion times, Eritrea is just that sovereign state for ever and ever. However; we should work together for the advancement of both people. Like I have always said; every Eritrean is sentenced to sleep with one eye opened. We have to survive.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Nitric,

            The problem Eritreans going to Ethiopia is because they are not able to go to their own country and it’s the best and closest option they have.

            I know three people right now, flew to AA and their family also flew to AA and they are meeting there. WHY? Because they don’t trust the Eritrean government and they would not dare go there…

            Last week I was talking to an Ethiopian friend who went for a visit in AA after so long. He told me, he stayed in a hotel where the majority (at least 90% of them were Eritreans). I believe him.

            FYI, Eritrean from the lowlands have been doing this for years..they were going to Sudan instead of Eritrea for the same reason.

            WHY ? You are not going to like this…because of PIA and his PFDJ.

            Berhe

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam berhe
            U see where the confusion is? eritreans didn’t fought for 30 years to get rid off sudan.
            Unless ethiopia and eritrea act as two independent countries accordingly and unless this confused behavior is cleared, i can guaranty u ethiopia and eritrea will go to war for 3rd time and it will be a very worst war.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Teodros,

            I can tell you it’s done out of convinience because they are not able to visit in their country. Before going to Addis I know many families were going to Uganda.

            There were probably hiundreds of thousands of Somali refugees, South Sudan and others. They are not going there because they are seeking union but seeking refuge.

            Don’t read too much about it.

            Sure war can’t be avoided but if Eritrea governments acts and behaves like a normal government, Ethiopia have zero chance to go and invade another sovereign country and get away with it.

            Since the Second World War it happened only once, Creamea. And Ethiopia should not flatter itself, it no Russia and Abiy is certainly no Putin.

            I can tell you the ERITREAN sentiment for independence and remain independent has not changed even 1%, it is still at 99% less those Trojan horse, like IA who were planted by the Ethiopian security.

            Berhe

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam berhe
            Interference on eachother internal poltics and the empty rhetoric on both side were the one that brought these two countries to annexation and to war before, so keep doing it over and over again will not bring another result.
            Do u know Djiboutians share common language, religion, culture and even clan affiliation with people of afar and ethio somalis? Do u know almost all middle class Djiboutians spend their summer(very hot season) in deradawa and bola Michael (addia ababa)? Do u know Djibouti and ethiopia very much integrated countries?
            Why u think there is no such problem between ethiopia and djibouti like ethio-eri?

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Dear Hashela,

        “Eritrea will take care of the old man and give him a dignified and professional removal.” Really? You give him a warrant of dignified exit to the butcher of Eritreans for five decades? Anyone who think of giving mercy to this butcher does not have a “sense of justice” in his mind whatsoever. The families of victims are looking for “a day of justice” for the victims of their love ones.

  • Brhan

    Hello Awate
    Have you observed that there was no mention to the rapprochement of Esu and Abiy during the African Union summit. Paul Kagame , the Rwandan presiedent and the AU 2019 chair only mentioned and appreciated to Central Africa Republic peace deal and the Congo elections.
    Have I missed something or Paul ?
    Thank

    • Paulos

      Selam Brhan,

      I am not sure.

  • Haile S.

    Good day Awatewian,

    ዘበን ግርምቢጥ ማይ ንዓቐብ:

    እሺ ዝለመደ ሰብ፡ ይብል ስቕ በሉ
    ብዛዕባ ዓድኹም ግደፉ ኣይተዕልሉ

    ብጩቕ ግደፈዎ ኣይተተንፍሱ
    ንሱ ክህበኩም እዩ ዱላ ትንፋሱ

    ንሱ ፈላጥ፡ ኩሉ ዝከኣሎ፡ ተበሰሩ
    ብዝደሰቐኩም ሓፍ ኢልኩም ተሰራሰሩ

    እንዳተጋገየ ኣይትበልዎ ተጋጊኻ
    ንሱ ዝፈቱ መን ኣሎ ዝፈልጥ ብዘይካኻ

    ገዛኢ ኤርትራ ኣይትገስጽዎ
    ካብ ፈጣሪ ንላዕሊ ኣኽብርዎ
    ንሱ ብተፈጥሮ ዝፈልጦ ኣለዎ

    እሺ ጥራይ በሉ ስቕ ኢልኩም ተገዝኡ
    ብየማን እንተጸፍዓኩም፡ ጸጋም ኣይትሕብኡ

    ወያነ እንሃለ እንተበለኩም፡ ናብ ወያነ ጠምቱ
    ኣቤሎ? ኣብ ስልጣን የለን ኢልኩም ኣይትሕተቱ

    ወያነ እዩ ጸላኢና እንተይሉ ንዘለኣለም
    ሕራይ ኢልኩም ተኣዘዙ ብዘይ ቃል ዓለም

    ኤርትራዊ ነጻ ክዛረብ ክሰርሕ እዩ ዝተዋግአ
    ላላ, ንሱ ዝበለ ግና፡ ኣብ ዝተዓጽወ ኮይኑ ኣብ ዝተሓብአ

    • Hashela

      Thank you, Haile

      Your poem aptly describes our self-inflected wound that now seems to impede our collective ability to see, hear, and comprehend.

      How is it possible that a land of brilliant minds, a land of bravery, and a land of selflessness and sacrifice becomes a land of the blinds and deafs, ready to be shipped to wherever the dealer see the profit?

      Did we arrive to the finish line (liberation) completely exhausted and, as a result, unable to protect the winner’s prize?

      • Haile S.

        Selam Hashela,

        Excellent questions. The attempt to answer it will be very complex. For me the bottom bottom line reasons are three:

        – The sacrifice that affected every family and our ሕድሪ ስውኣት became the “gag-order” against a revolt. Everybody seems to be in agreement with this idea when it comes to TPLF-Tigray people relationship. It is the same, if not more well-founded with the EPLF & Eritrean people relationship.

        – Before the gag-order started to get unstitched, the war between Eritrea and Ethiopia started. It started as a war between EPLF and TPLF. TPLF was able to garner support from the remaining Ethiopian people by raising their patriotism (and promises) by claiming aggression of land they had claimed and aggressed themselves on ground & on map in the first place. Every Eritrean was conscious of this fact, thus reinforcing and giving green card to the Eritrean regime to stiffen its grip. Allow me to say here that the claim by some TPLF officials saying they fought more for Eritrea than EPLF is true, but NOT FOR THE GENEROSITY THEY ATTRIBUTE TO THEMSELVES on Eritrea and Eritreans (au contraire), but for inducing an extreme tolerance on Eritreans to their blistering regime.

        – This is specifically Eritrean. The Eritrean regime has conditioned its combatants, our heros, to be guarded and defensive to the non-combatants from the get go, thus becoming very close enablers of the regime, although they may be equally mistreated as the non-combatants at the end, and how-ever nice and sympathetic they are individually.

        • Mez

          Dear Haile S,

          Excellent observations.

          But “you are kind enough” to bring the whole mess under a mild framing “gag-order”.

          Thanks

  • Paulos

    Selam My Good People,

    Ethiopians in contradiction or is it Abiy?

    Today, Ethiopians cheered at the site when the statue of the last King was erected while his remains laying for eternity when he was killed by a Colonel who is being hailed not only as a hero but vauching for his return from exile by the very crowd who are cheering for the statue.

    P.S. One wonders if the Eritrean representative to the AU boycotted the ceremony or cheered on with the chorus.

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Dr Paulos,

      The PM of Ethiopia has two objectives (a) to rehabilitate the old forces of “key bahrachin” the remenant of Derg and Gunbot-7 (b) to annex Eritrea through his proxy – the devil of Eritrea, Issayas Afeworki. “The ones who are seperated from us will come to our loop” is real on the making. And we are clapping in the name of peace. Yegermal Nahna Neger. Are you expecting the representative to boycott? Nah.

      • Teodros Alem

        selam aman h
        Dream on, we ethiopians moved on from the past mindset, annexing eritrea is not in our mindset, even if u agree 100% to be annexed, am 100% sure the majority of ethiopians will reject it.

    • Peace!

      Paulosay,

      Come on paulosay! If you can proudly call Yohannes a hero, why not Ethiopians erect statue for their hero?

      Peace!

      • Paulos

        Selam Abi Seb,

        Did I say Yohannes was my hero? I remember saying a thing in that line about Meles. The question is if the last King was their hero, why didn’t they stand up for him when he was being led to the gallows? Perhaps, ዝነገሰ ንጉስና ዝበረቐ ጻሓይና?

        That is precisely the reason that if change is to effect in Ethiopia, it always comes from the North where resolve eclipses ambivalence.

        Speaking of “Hero Morality”, have plans to comment on Nietzsche and his main ideas, hopefully this coming weekend. In Tigrinya: ሌላ ምስ ኒቻ’ን ቀንዲ ሓሳባቱን።

        • Peace!

          Paulosay,

          ናዓባ Yes you did say Yohannes and Meles are heros. I clearly remember and even expressed my outrage. I did not bring it out of blue to defame a person whom I respect a lot.

          Peace!

          • Paulos

            Selam Abi Seb,

            Thank you. The respect is mutual but I honestly don’t remember saying that about Yohannes. Early onset ሕማም መረስዕ ይጀማምረኒ’ሎ ማለት’ዩ። I believe you.

        • Mez

          Hi Paulos,

          Had you seen the book “Gorfu Contra Nietzsche”?

          Thanks

          • Paulos

            Selam Mez,

            Have heard of the book but never read it.

    • Teodros Alem

      selam paulos
      1, i think u don’t understand the meaning of “Medemer” , one of “medemer principles r ,appreciating the good part of our history and learning from the past mistake.
      2, if u can erect statue for ur woyanes, the most hated and anti ethiopia group in the history of ethiopia, erecting statue for mengistu h is less offensive for us ethiopians.
      3, the new statue of emperor HS is not the first statue of him in ethiopia, at the matter of fact, the biggest statue in ethiopia is the statue of Emperor HS in harere.
      4, if u erect statue for Mussolini ur hero, it’s going to be ur business, not ethiopia business, remember it has been 28 years since eritrea became independent country.

  • Nitricc

    Greetings all; this gives me hope to the future and the i can do people of Eritrea. not everything is lost, our people are trying their best and why not be positive and do what we can to help?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBtqzvijF3A

  • Nitricc

    Hi All; Happy Fenkil day. Once again this is a reminder to the true Eritreans and to the disrespectful Ethiopians, what it took to be where we are. it will be a great mistake agitating and undermining Eritrean sovereignty. Eritrea paid dearly and if needed more to come to preserve what our fathers and mothers paid to gain.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=112&v=BStXkCAyp3s

  • Yohannes Zerai

    Dear All,

    It is sad that we live in an “Eritrean World” where a person’s inalienable rights to declare his/her own identity, beliefs and political stance have not only come under relentless attack, but are being usurped by some “know-it-all” smart-asses. There are those among us who have no compunction about labelling anyone that crosses their path for their ‘suspected’ identity, beliefs and positions as if the latter are some inanimate objects on the shelves of a warehouse AND as if they cannot (or should not) speak for themselves! The cause for this travesty is the same sick-minded propensity that recently led Isaias Afewerki to tell the Eritrean people: “You are the same people as Ethiopians. Period. And if you believe otherwise, you don’t know history”!….. How PATHETIC!

    Oh Lord, Have Mercy on Us!!

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Yohannes,

      It is unfortunate that some among us are “one man listeners” and “one issue” debaters (no matter we change the topics) as set by their “omnipresent demigod” that kept our Eritrea as his own “real estate”. In attempt to defend his bogus project, they will try to tag us with anything absurd derogatory pictures to strain our integrity, say for instance a name calling “Wayane”. So Yohannes, once you own your conscience, do the right thing, be able to fight for the wellbeing of our people, and expose the conspiracy against our sovereignty, then history will absolve you as such. There is nothing that gives you a great pleasure than being recognized in history with that clear unambiguous position. Keep up brother,

      • Nitricc

        greetings Aman-H; let me ask you why the author is pissed off? he is a good and calm writer why do you think all o the sudden blowing his casket? Just food for thought. Take home? don’t take things at its face value. The minute Tsa-tse say something, your boy goes banana, why?

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Nitrickay,

          I haven’t seen anybody, who could debate against his arguments with knowledge of his caliber, except blackmailing him as wayane. Do you think expressing your dislike is debating? No! No! A debater who disagree must elaborate where he disagree and give his/her clear alternative opinion that negate his, and possibly attract others to engage. Anything outside this scope, is not a debate.

          Nitrickay, what they do is, when they don’t have the ability to challenge the argument, but they don’t like it, they automatically call the writer a Wayane stooge. Remember, to “disagree an opinion” is not the same to “dislike an opinion. The former depicts that you have a better opinion to bring up, the latter depicts disgusting with the opinion with no alternative. Besides, the former again invites engagement and the latter shuts engagement. You see the difference. Therefore, Solomon’s comment is of the latter type that doesn’t invite engagement. He jumped to personal attack and tried to blackmail him as wayane. I called upon him to argue point by point, argument by argument, he decline to do that. There writer made many arguments and broad analysis on the players of the geopolitics of the region and the regional players. Anyone who want to debate him must be capable of his caliber to clash with him knowledge by knowledge, otherwise better to take your back seat and learn from the debaters.

          Myself, there are many instances I took my back seat to learn and limit my comment to questions. In other instances, if I agree, I give short comment commending the writer. In both instances it doesn’t mean I am debating. For debating, it means you have some to disagree with the writer, and to debate you don’t only express your disagreement, but must come with a better plausible argument and an alternative to it. At some time you could also come with full blown article to rebut the writer, as I did few times with my friend Saay, without attacking the personalities of the writers. Tackle the idea and not the person. Wayane this, wayane that is not a debate. It is only disruptive and does not encourage engagement.

          • Selamat Ayya Amanuel Hidrat,

            I don’t know where you are reading “weyane”, derogatory connotations, in everything that I have written? Not once did I use the word “weyane”. Perhaps you are hypersensitive to the usage of that word as you may have been hurt by it personally numerous times. Please reread what I have written with the aid of an uncorrupted unbiased spectacles.

            The question I am posing is: Have the opposition done a due diligence analysis on TPLF accepting and implementing the border demarcation? Should they find it significantly favorable for the Eritrean, are they prepared to put pressure on the TPLF towards the direction of resolving the border issue once and for all?

            YZ’s priority of who to preserve is evident in his writing which I simply pointed out to everyone.

            With respect,

            tSAtSE

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear Solomon,

            I have a short response to your question being on hold on disqus. I hope the moderator will pull it from there.

          • Lamek

            Selam GitSAtSE,

            The author wrote on the dynamics of the entire Horn of African region. This article has very little to do with anyone one country much less a small organization like the TPLF. Not anywhere did he express any concern for the TPLF’s apparent downward spiral or any sympathies for TPLF nor preserving that organization in any way. I am not sure where you read what you are strongly expressing here agains the author. I think it is a very fair and well written article.

            He mentions TPLF in only two contexts. The first one is when he says that despite the Ethiopian govt’s acceptance of the border ruling, the Eritrean leader and the TPLF have yet to come to the table to discuss the modalities of implementing the demarcation on the ground. He did not squarely blame one or the other.

            The second one is when he talks about the politics of encirclement and he mentions the encirclement of Djibouti by the three governments of Somalia, Eritrea, and Ethiopia. Likewise, towards the very end, he makes a mention of TPLF encirclement rather in passing: “Likewise, interfering in Ethiopia’s domestic rivalry, Eritrea is conspiring with the federal government and Amhara regional state to encircle and weaken the TPLF.” His message here is likely that it is dangerous for Eritrea to interfere in Ethiopian politics.

            The author appears to condemn this kind of politics in general terms but he did not in any way, shape, or form, come to the TPLF’s defense much less at the expense of his own country Eritrea.

            Please be specific and provide citations and quotations for your unfounded and almost paranoid mistrust and strong criticism of the author.

          • Mez

            Good Sunday Lamek,

            You stated: “….a small organization like the TPLF…”

            you must be kidding.

            Thanks

          • Lamek

            Happy Sunday mez, I didn’t mean in a diminishing way bit just relatively speaking and in the context of the entire Horn of Africa which has a population nearing 300 million. Not meant to offend anyone.

          • Yohannes Zerai

            Dear Lamek,

            I read your comment belatedly, just a few minutes after I posted a message announcing my decision to end (on my part) the recriminations that have been going on for the last few days regarding the substance of my latest article. But that decision notwithstanding, it would be utterly irresponsible to read such a beautifully-written and compelling statement of the facts of the matter in your post and NOT to expressly appreciate the rational thinking that produced it. Sir, your post has defended and upheld the TRUTH, and I salute and congratulate you for it!

          • Lamek

            Selam Yohannes, sorry couldn’t get back to you sooner. But I am honored frankly to have the respect you profusely expressed towards what I wrote. I do like what Tsatse writes most of the time and I read nearly all his comments as they are quite entertaining and a total enigma that gives me a good mental exercise to break down.

            But in this case, I am not sure what happened but I sincerely believed that the attack on your article felt really unfair because you wrote a superb article summarizing the events leading upto where we are now. I wrote my rebuttal to Tsatse (but the intention was not for him only), primarily out of compassion to you. Your article is more of a list of the facts on the ground rather than an opinion piece and that is why I felt like it was unfair to you. You wrote it very carefully and it appeared very well edited and that is why again it hurt me to see such meanness not only from Tsatse but from Nitricc, FishMilk, Blink, and the like. I always appreciate any writer of any article because for most writers that is not their full time job. The time must have come hours of family and personal life sacrifices. No matter what, any writer deserves a fair critical review. Specially in the case of Eritrean writers where they are not compensated for anything rather they use their own resources. So pleas accept lots of respect and appreciation and the same goes to all Eritrean activist writers.

          • Yohannes Zerai

            My, oh, my, ……. The respect is mutual, Lamek. Thanks again.

    • Saleh Johar

      Dear Yohannes,
      This is the tax that we have to pay for the sad situation we find ourselves in. Take it from a veteran, the Isaias camp is so vile it relies on vilification as a major tool in “protecting the PFDJ” under the guise of protecting Eritrea and its people. That is their perfected diplomatic tool. But I can testify only a handful are left to guard that domain of oppression, exclusion, and vulgarity. So far, you are saved from the vulgarity but rest assured the grapevines are busy transmitting Hshukshukh messages around. Do not be surprised if one of their packs starts to attack you. But the seemingly refined, but exclusionist partisan fellas, are a better deal. Do not worry, they know no other way but what you are witnessing. They will soon come to the fold of the selfless Eritreans wh have no horse in the partisan race but only wishing to see a secure and peaceful Eritrea and the region beyond. The difference is many of us do not think beyond our nose tips, but some of us are blessed with Pinocchio’s nose. Stay good and learn to brush off useless pronouncements.

      Thank you for the insightful article, as usual, and some might be angered because you think for yourself. But take solace in the fact that they like the clustrophobic groupthink.

      • Nitricc

        Greetings SG; i don’t know if I understood you but you seem criticizing the writer is wrong. The author have the right to express his opinion and other people have the same right to have their take. As a moderator, you should not take sides or discourage people from expressing their opinion. How do you know the writer is an Eritrean?

        • Saleh Johar

          Hi Nitricc,
          Please observe the details. I never commented as a moderator but in my individual capacity. Are you suggesting moderators should lose their commenting privileges? Please explain.

          • Nitricc

            I never commented as a moderator but in my individual capacity. Are you suggesting moderators should lose their commenting privileges?

            Hi SG; no i didn’t mean that, all i am saying giving your status on this forum you could influence the direction of the discussion flew. We need a clashing view on this forum to practice and exercise the art of democracy and a civilized debate. For example, i have never took this writer as a person of who has Eritrean goodwill at heart. All his writing is demolishing eritrea and eritrea’s best interest and that is a reason i never addressed him directly. I have my own reasons and obviously you have the right to express your take but all i m saying is giving your position on this forum i didn’t find your take to encourage the very needed clashing views on this forum. Once again, i have no problem for anyone to express their views one way or the other but we must protect the people and the nation and this particular author, i see none of it but an agenda. am i right? i don’t know but that is the vibe i have. Again don’t undermine your opinion’s weight on this forum. that is my take and that is how i feel. i am not saying i am right, all i am saying is that is how i feel.

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Nitricc,
            I take your views seriously. I will slow down but if I see stuff that’s outright provocative, I don’t think I can twist it. Also, if a forum member is bullied, whatever their views, you will find me here. One more thing: I will challenge everyone who invites people to gang up against one person because they do not like the opinion. That’s is only human nature. But I promise you I will slow down and see if some people will help me by stopping being disrespectful to the right of others, whatever their views. Finally, if I am called out by name, or insinuation, I hold my right to respond. I hope this satisfies you —I know how you think and I am sure if your fairness.

          • Nitricc

            Hi SG; i am with you and you should express your view and all i am saying is that don’t forget the weight you carry on shaping the direction of the discussion. This web site has come a long way and i don’t want to regress, i have invested the way i can to this forum where it is now, open, progressive and accommodating all kinds views. like i have said, this forum gave us the chance to express our views freely and i don’t want see that wasted. in that regard because i care. And I thank you sir. Thanks SG.

      • FishMilk

        Hi Saleh Johar. Vulgarities are being slung from left, right and center. However, on the one hand, you only seem to observe technical fouls when they touch upon self-interest domain. On the other hand, open vulgarities against those, rightly or wrongly, casted in the PIA/PFDJ, are always good to go, never subject to moderation, and always garner group applause.

      • Yohannes Zerai

        Dear SGJ and Amanuel,

        Thank you brothers for the fairness and integrity with which you two, as non-principals, reacted to the issue at hand. I would expect no less from two veteran patriots who continue to dedicate themselves to the struggle of bringing freedom and justice to their people.

        While I greatly appreciate your reasoned position and concern regarding the issue, I would like to assure you that there is nothing to worry about. These verbal attacks are a reflection of the inadequacies and insecurities of their perpetrators, and I regard them as nothing more than minor distractions that are best ignored. My previous comment (which prompted your reaction) was posted for the sole purpose of poking at people’s conscience in the hope of salvaging a soul or two! Unfortunately, most of the reactions that came in at the forum have confirmed my worst fears — that this is a hopeless case and must be left to its own fate!

        For me (and hopefully, for others involved as well), it is now time to move on to other worthwhile issues/topics. But, if some want to continue to wallow in trivialities and ill will, that would be their prerogative!

        Thank you.

    • Mahmud Saleh

      Selam Yohannes
      Dear brothers, YZ comes with an article. Obviously, he post that article on a public forum because he intends to share his ideas with all stakeholders. people will read his article and give feedback. I would assume he would expect a part of the feedback would be something he did/would not like. I think it would be productive if YZ focused on the substance of the feedback and replied or declined accordingly because when he expressed himself on subjects of public interest, he should expect others also have the right to discuss his views according to their understanding and POV.
      The smart way the “smart-asses” feel you should do, something that will reduce the distress you appear to be suffering from, is to also acknowledge others also are entitled to express their ” inalienable rights to declare [their] own identity, beliefs and political stance.”
      Look at the simple logical error you are making. It is simply infantile to call anyone who critiques you as anIsaiasist. If you do so, then, you better be ready to accept those who say your views have been similar to those of Wayane propagandists who had worked hard to isolate Eritrea (mind you, I criticized your viewpoints). After all, you should not feel bad, man, you are surrounded by the pack.
      It is the same hypocrisy, my friend. You claim to be fighting to build a society that tolerates diverse opinions and you are here crying for help. The few people around here who oppose your POV on CERTAIN AREAS don’t pose danger to you. Feel safe, bro. We have been through it all and we are still going on. We do not need the support of a pack; we do not wait for the call of any entity; we do what we do and say what we say out of conviction. Eritrea will need to change but change will come by lots who have changed themselves. It will be changed by folks who are determined, hopeful, tolerant and forward looking. It will be changed by Eritreans who want to be criticized more than they want to be patted on the shoulder. Now, you know you have the inalienable right to express yourself, to bash and insult others. I know I have the right to express myself too, but I also know I don’t have the right to insult others.
      So, dear brother, don’t expect a passive audience/readers. Some of the readers do not want to be spoon-fed. I have said it before and I say it now, you are a heck of a smart man, and I learn a lot from reading you. Part of the learning process is critiquing. The smart-ass do learn if engaged smartly.
      Regards, and please do not take it personal.

    • FishMilk

      Hi Yohannes Zerai. Janus-faced? Maybe a bit? I tried to respectfully engage you only to be insulted and unfairly labeled.

    • Blink

      Dear John
      Cry me a river and I will still feel nothing by your corocodile tears , everyone knows your stand and nothing is going to be changed by you , your views don’t count in anything. You are just an individual who control nothing and less is good enough to be better. You have been crying right and left for things you see bad and people has been there looking at your views , you are not like new guy to this forum.

      Weyane ( your Kings ) power in Ethiopia Federal system is not going to come to light even after your grand grand kids , you and your packs have been advocating for the dismantling of Eritrea by suffocating Eritrea from foreign investment as well as dividing Eritreans across many corners.What ever Issias do and what ever Abiy does from now on is not going to be like the past weyane time and you better get used to the new reality .

      • Hameed Al-Arabi

        Hi Blink,

        At present, the errand is to attack those who expose you and intend to dismantle true Eritreans from you whom you have played over them for decades. The game is over with Isaias and his phonies, bye bye. እትብሉ ንዘይፈልጠኩም በልዎ You are naked from rags that covered you for decades. You are just seekers of slavery not independence of Eritrea. Your longing is to be slaves of poverty stricken country and threatened of fragmentation.

        Al-Arabi

        • Blink

          Dear Hamid
          Who is exposing to who ? Listen there is nothing tangible about what Abiy and Issias intends to do , Abiy can say many words and you can paraphrase him from different angle yet Eritrea will continue to be a country wether under poverty or wellbeing. You have to have a believe that your people are capable of guarding their country just as what they did in the past, don’t try to have your game under the pretext of Yohannes game ,Eritrea will go on to continue as a country and I admit it may not be your actual dream governances but still it counts . You need to understand people don’t have to kneel to John doom and gloom mind set , they have the right to do what is good for them and if you think people like the above guy have a say , well you need to digg deep to know the game . Issaias and his pals control the stage but I am 100% sure even their time will pass . Eritreans have passed through a testing time and this time is not difficult for them . Eritrea has a willing son who can guard beyond the horizon. I believe it to be True .

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Hi Blink,

            I perceive well that the Eritrean people will never kneel down, regarding this I am content million times. I think your strategy let them do their job then react and pay heavy is a wrong strategy. My friend, PREVENTION IS BETTER THAN CURE. Eritreans should react before they finish their cook. The secret pacts are enough for us to make rallies and show to the international community about our refusal to secret treaties and all insinuations from the Night Hyena and Isaias. The international community may not react, but we should inform them about what is going on in Eritrea. All key countries and our neighbors also should be informed about our fears.

            While they are working to destroy our sovereignty, give them time is a wrong strategy and a grave mistake.

            Al-Arabi

          • Blink

            Dear Hameed
            There is no no tangible threat to our sovereignty at this time , the only problem we have is a dictator who doesn’t know the Eritrean people worth . Don’t get carried away by Gonder lunatics dream because they will continue to dream about it. I believe in our own people resolve . Eritreans are not going to be agitated by lots of cray people. Our fight must be to deliver justice to the Eritrean people.

  • MERIR


    Duty, Honor, Country. Those three hallowed words reverently
    dictate what you ought to be, what you can be, what you will be

    Greetings: the journey has started buckle up your belt.

    • sara

      MERIR, selamat !
      I am betting who you are with my neighbor, welcome anyway.

      • MERIR

        Hi Sara; are you saying RIP Nitricc? hahahahah. not yet, May 24 2019 is the day.

  • sara

    Dear tSAtSE,
    Honestly, this is the first time i was able to fully comprehend your writing, keep it this way, the way most of us understand this foreign language.

  • Paulos

    ሰላም ብሩኻት ህዝበይ,

    [ራብዓይ ክፋልን መወዳእታን]:

    Rene Descartes ዝበሎ ልክዕ ኣይኮነን ክብል መለሰሉ። ብኸምዚ’ኻኣ ካብቲ መርዓ ተፋላለዩ።

    እቲ ንተፈጥሮ ክንርደኦ ንኽእል ብእምነት ወይ’ካኣ ብኣጉል ባህሊ ዘይኮነ :ብሕዋሳትና ተሞረኲስና ንረኽቦ ሓበሬታን [Reason] ተመኩሮን [Experience] ጥራሕ እዩ ዝብል ቢሂል ኣብ ምዕራብ ኤውሮጳ ሱር እነዳሰደደን እንዳ ላሓመን ከደ። ካብ ኩሉ ንላዕሊ እዚ ሓድሽ ዓይነተ ኣምር ኣብ ፖለቲካ ጽልዋ ክገብር ጀመረ። በቲ ጊዜቲ ዝነበሩ ገዛእቲ እቲ ስልጣን ካብ ላዕሊ ሰማይ ኢና ረኺብናዮ ይብሉ ስለዝነበሩ: እዚ ሓድሽ ኣታሓሳስባ ነቲ ናይቶም ነገስታት ፈላጽን ቆራጽን ስልጣን ክፈታትኖ ጀመረ። ብፍላይ ኣብ ፈረንሳ እቲ ዝዓበየ ናይ ሃይማኖታዊ ጎንጺ ይርአ ስለዝነበረ ማለት ኣብ ሞንጎ እቶም ዝበዝሑ ካቶሊካውያንን እቶም ዝዋሓዱ ናይ ማርቲን ሉተር ተኸተልትን: ነዚ ዝዕዘብ ዝነበረ Voltaire ዝተባህለ ሰብ ፣ ነቲ ናይ ሃይማኖት ጉድለታትን ንምንታይ እቲ እንኮ ኣማራጺ Reason ወይካኣ Rationalism ክኸውን ከምዘለዎ ብድርሰትን ብተዋሰኦን እንዳገበረ ጎስጓስ ጀመረ: ብሳዕቤኑ’ኻኣ እቲ ጽሑፋቱ ተወገዘን ነደደን ንሱ’ኻኣ ክልተ ግዜ ተኣስረ:: ነገርግን እቲ ጽሑፋቱ ዓቢ ጽልዋ ስለዝገበረ ብ1789 ናይ ፈረንሳ ሰውራ ኣላዓዓለ።

    ጋና እቲ ናይ ፈረንሳ ሰውራ ከይተጀመሮ ኸሎግን ሓደ ጀርመናዊ Immanuel Kant ዝተባህለ ነቲ Reason ጥራሕ እዩ ንተፈጥሮ ከፍልጠና ዝኽእል ቢሂል ክነቅፍን ክወቅዕን ኢሉ ንኣስታት ዓሰርተ ሓሙሽተ ዓመት ዝወሰደሉ ዳርጋ ትሽዓተ ሚእቲ ገጻት ዘለዎ መጽሓፍ “Critique Of Pure Reason” ዝብል ጸሓፈ። ንሱ ነቶም ናይ Reason ተማጎትቲ ከምዚ ዝስዕብ በሎም: እቲ ንስኻትኩም ትምጎትሉ ዘለኹም Reason ጽሩይ Reason ኣይኮነን፣ ምኽንያቱ ጽሩይ Reason ብናይ ወድሰብ ዓቕሚ ክፍለጥ ኣይካኣልን እዩ በሎም። Things-in-themselves ክንፈልጦም ዓቕሚ የብልናን በሎም: እዚ ንስኻትኩም Reason ትብልዎ ዘለኹም ክጠቕመና ዝኽእል እቶም ነገራት ተቐይሮም ምስ መጹና ወይካኣ ብህዋሳትና ምስታዓዘብናዮም ጥራሕ እዩ በለ። ንሱ ኣስዒቡ እንድሕር ፍጹምን ጹሩይን ዝኾነ ወዲሰብ ክርእዮን ክርድኦን ዘይክእል Absolute Reason ኣሎ ኾይኑ: ፍጹም ዝኾነ Moral Code ወይካኣ Ethical Value ክህልው ኣለዎ ዝብል ኣምር ስለዘምጸአ፣ እቲ ኣብ ቅልውላው ኣትዩ ዝነበረ ናይ ሃይመኖታዊ እምነት ቁሩብ ትንፋስን ጉዝጓዝን ረኸበ። ነገርግን ንሱ ኣብቲ ናቱ ኣምር ቦታን ግዜን [Space And Time] ፍጹማት እዮም [apriori] ይብል ስለዝነበረ፣ ዳርጋ ድሕሪ ክልተ ሚእቲ ዓመት Albert Einstein ነቲ ብሂል ጌጋ ኾይኑ ረኸቦ። እቲ Universal Moral Code ወይካኣ Absolute Moral Value ዝበሎ፣ Cultural Relativism ዝባሃል ናይ ዒስራ ከፍለዘመን ምንቅስቓስ ክፋታተኖ ጀመረ።

    ንድሕሪት ተመሊስና ክንርእዮ ከለና፣ ድሕሪ ናይ ፈረንሳ ሰውራ፣ ናፖልዮን ምስተሳዕረ: እቶም ብእንኮ ናይ Reason ጸብለልትነት ዝኣምኑ ዝነበሩ disillusioned ኮኑ፣ ምኽንያቱ እቲ ሕቡብ ናይ ፈረንሳ ሰውራ ኣብ Reason ተወጢሑ ስለዝመጸ፣ ናፖልዮን ተሳዒሩ ኣብ ደሴት ተኣስረ: እቲ ናይ ቀደም ስርዓት ተመልሰ: ብናይ Congress of Vienna ዝፍለጥ ናይ ኤሮጳ መራሕቲ ዋዕላ Conservatism ዳግማይ ከምዝምለስ ገበረ።

    ሓደ ካበቶም disillusioned ዝኾኑ ብናይ Reason እንኮ ሓይሊ ዝኣምን ዝነበረ ጀርመናዊ Arthur Schopenhauer, “The World As Will And Idea” ትብል መጽሓፍ ጸሓፈ፣ ብኸምኡ እዩ’ኻኣ ኣብቲ ማኣዲ ከንዲ ነታ ጸብሒ ደርሆ ደስ ኢልዎ ዝበልዓ ናብቲ ደረቕን ሂወት ዘይብሉን ሓሳብ ዘድሃበ።

    • Amanuel

      Thank you Dr Paulos

      • Paulos

        You’re welcome Aman.

    • Haile S.

      ሰላም ጳውሎስ፡

      እዚ ምቁርን ዓቢ ትምህርቲ ዝሓዘለ ‘ፍልስፍና ንየውሃት’፡ ወይ ከኣ ብቋንቋ እንግሊዝ ‘philosophy for the dummies’ ኣምሲልካ ዘቕረብካዮ፡ ብጣዕሚ ጠቓምን፡ ናብቲ ኣርእስቲ ዘእቱ ገፊሕ መተኣታተዊ ኮይኑ ረኺበዮ። ብዝበለጸ ከኣ ኣቀራርባኻ፡ እዞም ፈላስፋ ናይ ዘመን ኣዕሩኽን (contemporaries)፡ ኣብ እንዳ ሓንቲ ፍልጥቲ ኮማሪት (courtesan) ምስ ሓውቦኻ ምራጭ ኮፍ ኢሎም ዘዕልሉ ኮይኑ ተራእዩኒ. ካብዚ ዝበለጸ ቁምነገር-ሓዘል ከም ትያትሮ ኮይኑ ዝቐረበ፡ ኣበይ ይርከብ? ኣብ ሲኔማ ኢምፐሮ ቀሪቡ እንተዝኸውን ክንደይ ‘ብብጩቕ ካይትብሉ፡ ኣጣቕዑ ጥራይ’ ዝላደየ ህዝቢ መዛናግዐ ነይሩ? ሕጂ ኣብዚ ከም ቅናት ኣደይ ማርያም ዝኾነ ዓምዲ ክትዕ ዓወተ ተሓዋዊሱ ካይሕባእ፡ ጥርንፍ ኣቢልካ ምስ SGJ ተዘራሪብካ ኣብቲ ዓምዲ ትግርኛ ርእሱ ዝኸኣለ ኣርእስቲ ጌርካ ኣቐምጦ፡ ሓደራ። SGJ ከምኡ ካይሓሰበ ኣይተርፍን እዩ።

      • Paulos

        Selam Hailat,

        Thank you. Glad you like it. The ፍልስፍና ንየዋሃት is funny and creative and it can only come from the ever resourceful you. I agree, wish could be made into a play and showcase it in one of the theaters in Asmara. ኣበይሞ እንታይሞ ‘ንታይሞ ‘ዛዓለም ብላሽየ as one of the oldy lamenting Blues has it.

        Certainly, Aya Saleh Johar knows what is best to do with and for the comments. Thanks again.

        • Haile S.

          Selam Paul,

          And especially doing it in tigrigna was exemplary. Please continue. I am not sure if there are tigrigna translations of philosophy other than perhaps life history of philosophers. There were attempts to translate into Amharic two were early translators, and oddly enough both Tigrigna speakers. One was an intellectual from Tigray, ዘመንፈስ-ቅዱስ ኣብርሃ who transcribed the Geez version of ሓተታ ዘዘርኣ ያዕቆብ ኣክሱማዊ ወወልደ ሕይወት እንፍራዛዊ in 1938 Eth and then into Amahric, I think. I talked about him before on other occasions. The other is an Eritrean, ሊቀ መዘምራን ሞገስ ዑቁበ ጊዮርጊስ who translated Greek philosophers from Geez translations (as he put it himself) in a book entitled ኣንጋረ ፈላስፋ printed in Asmara in 1953 Eth. ሊቀ መዘምራን ሞገስ wrote it at the time the Andnet party were in full force and writing in Amharic in Asmara was ‘à la mode’ as the tigrigna saying goes ሓድሽ ክርስትያን ካብ ቀሺ ንላዕሊ ይሕለቕ። This plus catholique que le pape’ has been and still is keeping us stuck from rapidly moving forward even now. When the parole of hate comes, it drives us till hell burns completely. When the parole of love comes we tend to give every belonging till we remain empty. Learning from mistakes and coming together by learning from each other like what you are doing should be the way forward.
          Best

          • Paulos

            Selam Hailat,

            Your erudation in the classics particularly those into Amharic or Tigrinya translated books is impressive and panaromic. As you know, it is incredibly difficult at least for me to configure the core ideas particularly the philosophies of “German Idealism” into sensible coherent Tigrinya. And that frustrates me. I don’t mean to brag or anything, I understand it fully but again, I find it hard to translate it not the wording per se but the core ideas. But will keep trying.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hailat,

            “When the parole of hate comes, it drives us till hell burns completely. When the parole of love comes we tend to give every belonging till we remain empty”. Very true, brother. Look even when the fake love comes from the south, we gave our ports to be administered by them and they start to say our ports, our naval forces are replaced by the Ethiopian naval forces, we welcome their slogan medemer of “one country two states”. The “we give every belonging till we remain empty” is the strategy of our despot, and is going forward as we speak. Very brilliant observation. 👍

          • Haile S.

            Selam Emma,

            The issue and the saddening part in this Peace Agreement and barter is that Eritreans are getting offered PEACE something that is first of all their right and have been deprived of largely by Ethiopian administration for the last 20 years and by Eritrea’s incompetent leadership who allegedly was resisting the assault to preserve the independence and the very rights of the country that we don’t see getting respected other than through this offer of PEACE that has been snatched from Eritreans in the first place. Getting exiled and helping family individually while clapping viva Ghedli and viva our Selfless is bizarrely getting taken for a solution to the economic hardship of Eritreans. To add insult to injury, the recent Ethiopia’s institutionalization of opening its hands to Eritrean to work and plus, though commendable for the individual, is very questionable as a policy when citizens are deprived of any alternatives of decent living in their own country Eritrea. It puts into question what the objectives of Ghedli was and why the Selfless fought to render their compatriots penny-less and country-less looking for alternatives.

          • Yohannes Zerai

            Dear Amanuel,

            Thank you very much for succinctly highlighting the political goings-on in our region that ought to be of utmost concern to all patriotic Eritreans. Let those who go into frenzy with anything that comes their way in the name of peace take a minute off their emotional flirtations and ponder the points you have made in your comment above.

            Thank you.

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Selam HaileS and Paulosay
            እዛ ‘ሓተታ’ ደኣ ናይ ሻዕብያ እንድያ መሲላትኒ ነይራ!!!
            As usual, good read. I do not pick a fight with both of though picking fights is not my fortitude, something I rarely resort to when I run of other option to ward off unwarranted personal attacks. You guys are gentle and possess huge arsenal of intellectual tools. I do not miss your inputs, particularly the nonpolemic contributions. Thank you. I’m your student.

          • Haile S.

            Selam Mahmoud,
            Three things in Tigrigna 🙂

            – ናይ ሻዕብያ! – ትደልይ’ኦ እሞ ይዝንግዓክን!
            – ነገር ዘይጸገበ ምስ ዋጣ ይሕጸ (ምስ ሃይለ ይናገር) 🙂
            – ከም ሽሮ ቲዕ ቲዕ ኢልና፡ ካብ ሓዊ ምስተኣለና፡ ከምቲ ትርር ዝበለ ሽሮ ክንምቅር ተስፋን ጻዕሪ ኩላትና ይኹን።

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Selam HaileS
            Thank you for telling me as it is. I still stand by my comment. You are a gifted man, and keep it up, no matter how much you dislike my comments. There is too many a dimension to a person… I enjoy Haile the poet and Haile the classical literary genius…and similarly, when it comes to paulos, he is just a reservoir of subjects. Politically, we may not agree but there are more to life than politics.

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Hailat,

        I second your proposal to be compiled in an article format and be post in the front page of the tigrigna website of Awate. If him and SGJ agreed on your proposal, I will suggest to limit the English words in brackets and try to find equivalent tigrigna words, even if they sounds from alien world. We have to make new words familiar as we go forward.

  • Paulos

    ሰላም ብሩኻት ህዝበይ,

    [ሳልሳይ ክፋል]:

    ሓደ ሰምበት ሓደ ሸውዓተ ዝኾኑ ኣሰብኡት ክልተ ካብቶም ኣብ ላዕሊ ዝተጠቕሱ ሰባት ዝርከብዎም ናብ መርዓ ተዓዲሞም ይኸዱ ክብል ሓወቦይ ዕላሉ ይቕጽል፣ ጋሻ ተቐበል ጋሻ ተቐበል ምስተባህለ ቦቶኦም ሒዞም ኮፍ ይብሉ፣ መኣዲ ይቕረብ ጸብሒ ደርሆ ምስ ዓሰርተ ኽለተ እንቃቖሖ ደበኽ ትብል፣ ሽዑዑ ጠምዮም ስለዝነበሩ ነቶም ሓደ ናይ ሃይማኖት ሰብኣይ ኣብቲ ጥቓ መኣዲ ጠጠው ኢሎም ዝነበሩ ጋና ጸሎቶም ከይጀመሩ እቶም ዕዱማት ናብ ምብላዕ ኣተው።

    ቁሩብ ምስ በልዑ ሓደ ካብኣቶም [Schopenhauer] ከምዚ ክብል ዘረባ ጀመረ: እቲ ናይ ጥምየት ስሚዒትና ሓያል ስለ ዝነበረ: ሓደ ሓይሊ [Will] ነቲ ክንሓስበሉ ንኽእል ናይ ኣእምሮና መሳርሒ [Intellect] ጸቒጡ ናቱ ተገዛእቲ ጌሩና :ብኸምኡ ኢናኻኣ ብዛዕባ እታ ደርሆ ድያ ወይስ እታ እንቃቖሖ መጀመርታ ተፈጢራ ንዝብል መሰረታዊ ሕቶ ኣእምሮና ኣብ ግዜ ጥምየት ከድህበሉ ዘይካኣለ፣ ስለዚ ይብል ቀጺሉ፣ ወዲሰብ ናይ ነብሱ ወናንን ካብ መከራን ናይ ሂወት ሕሰምን ናጻ ክወጽእ እንተዳኣ ኾዮኑ ነዚ [Will] ዝስዕረሉ መገዲ ከናድይ ኣለዎ።

    ሓደ ከብኣቶም ትቕብል ኣቢሉ [David Hume] ከምዚ ክብል ተዛረበ: ኣነ ከምዝመስለኒ እቲ ጸገም ናይ ወዲሰብ ብዛዕባ ተፈጥሮ ዘለዎ ኣራዳድኣ ቅኑዕ ኣይኮነን፣ ንምንታይ እንተኢልና ሕጂ ንምሳሌ እዛ ጸብሒ ደርሆ ህላውነታ ነረጋግጾ ዘለና ህዋሳትና ስለዝነገሩና ጥራሕ እዩ፣ ማለት ብዓይንና ንሪኣ አለና; በፍንጫና ንሽትታ; ብኢድና ንድህስሳ፣ ስለዚ ካብ ህዋሳትና ወጻኢ ህላውነታ ክራጋገጽ ኣይክእልን እዩ።

    መስ’ቲ ዝበልካዮ ይሳማማዕ’የ ክብል ሓደ ካብኣቶም [John Locke] ተዛረበ: ከምዚ ክብል ዘረብኡ ቀጸለ: ንተፈጥሮ ክንፈልጦ ንኽእል በቲ ብሕዋሳትና ጌርና ንረኽቦ ተመኩሮ ጥራሕ እዩ: ቆልዓ ክውለድ ከሎ ኣእምርኡ ባዶ ኾይኑ እዩ ዝውለድ [Tabula Raza.] ድሕሪኡ ሓደ ካብኣቶም ከምዚ ክብል ሓተተ: ስለዚ እቲ ቅድሚ ነዊሕ ዓመታት Rene Descartes ብዛዕባ ኣእምሮን ሓንጎልን ብሕታዊ ህላውነት [Mind and Body duality as two independent entities] ዝበሎ ጌጋ እዩ ማለት ድዩ?

    ይቕጽል……

  • Mahmud Saleh

    Dear tSAtSE [Thegreat)
    Thank you and well said, bro. The malaise affecting folks like YZ is too stubborn to cure. I call it the Wayanay virus, a potent strain.

  • Semere Tesfai

    Selam GitSatSE

    Wow! Sir, sir, sir……………

    If you can communicate/express your opinion in such a layman’s terms then why were/are you torturing us with your ሰምና ወርቅ riddles – which nine out of ten of us were completely lost in the wilderness of your advanced english language and your coded words.

    Semere Tesfai

  • Paulos

    ሰላም ብሩኻት ህዝበይ,

    እታ ካልአይቲ ክፋል ዝበልክዋ ከም ናይ ክቡር መራሒና ካልአይቲ ክፋል ተበልካ ወይከ ከይትኾነኒ ፈሪሐያ’ሞ ግን ዕድለይ ክፍትና እየ። [ካልኣይ ክፋል]:

    …ሓወቦይ ዕላሉ ቅድሚ ምጅማሩ ንዓባየይ ከምዚ በላ: ምእንቲ ምስቲ ዕላል መታሓሓዚ ክኾነኪ [Context] ሓደ ኣገዳሲ ነገር ክነግረኪ:

    እቲ ኣምር ናይ ኣሳላሲልካ ምሕሳብ [Intellectualism] እዚ እንታይ ንምባል እዩ—ወዲሰብ ዝሓስብ እንስሳ ከም ምዃኑ መጠን መሊሱ’ኻኣ ዝሓስብ ከምዘሎ ዝፈልጥ እንስሳ ከም ምዃኑ መጠን እቲ ናይ መስልሳል ዝላዓለ ዓቕሙ ውጽኢት ንምርካብ ከም መሳርሒ እዩ ዝጥቀመሉ [a means to an end]–ነዚ ኣምር እዚ’ግን [Intellectualism] ሓደ ሩሶ [Rousseau] ዝተባህለ ፈላስፋ ከምዝሓምም ገበሮ; ድሕሪኡ’ኻኣ ሓደ ካንት [Kant] ዝተባህለ ፈላስፋ ኣብ ዓራት ከም’ዝቑረን ገበሮ; ድሕሪኡ’ኻአ ሓደ ሾፐንሆር [Schopenhauer] ዝተባህለ ፈላስፋ ብቓሬዛ ናብ መቓብር ከምዝወርድ ገበሮ።

    ኢዚ እንታይ ማለት እዩ–ድሕሪ ክልተ ሚኢቲ ዓመት: ፍልስፍና ካብ ኣብ ናይ ምስልሳል ነገራት [Intellectualism] ምምርኳስ; በዞም ኣብ ላዕሊ ዝተጠቕሱ ሰባት: ፍልስፍና መልክዑ ቀየረ–ሓሳብ [Thought] ናብ ድልየት [Desire], ምስልሳል [Intellect] ናብ ስምዒት [Instinct] ተቐየሩ።

    ሒዝክኒ’ዶለኺ ክብል ንዓባየይ ሓወቦይ ሓተታ: ዕላልካ ኣይተቛርጽ ቀጽል’ዳኣ በለቶ። ሓወቦይ ዕላሉ ብምቕጻል ከምዚ ዝስዕብ ዛንታ ነገራ…..

  • Hashela

    Dear Moderator
    please allow to reverse your editing. The genera and species name is written seperately

  • Paulos

    ሰላም ብሩኻት ህዝበይ,

    ፍልስፍናን መቐረቱን: [ቀዳማይ ክፋል]

    ነብሱ ይምሓር ሓወቦይ ምራጭ ብሂወት’ከሎ ብዙሕ ፍናን ወይካኣ ማተርያላዊ ባህጊ ኣይነበሮን፣ ብሕታዊ ሂወት መሪጹ ሓዳር ከይገበረ ብዙሕ’ውን ኣብ ስራሕ ዓለም ከይተዋፈረ እዩ ሓሊፉ።

    ዓባየይ ካብ ዕለት ናብ ዕለት ኣኺሉካ’በቃ ቁምነገር ከይትገብር ኣቢኻ ክትብሎ ይዝከረኒ። ዘይርስዖ ሓደ’ማዓልቲ ከምኡ እንዴበለቶ’ኸላ ከም ኣጋጣሚ ኤሮቡናለ ትሓልፍ ስለዝነበረት ዓባየይ ኢዳ ናብ ላዕሊ እንዳ’ኣቕነዐት “በል ራኣዮም መሳቱኻ ሰማይ ሰማይ ትኸይድ ይዝውሩ’ለው ንስኻ’ግን ኣብ መሬት ተኸይድ’ውን ክትዝውር ኣይ’ካኣልካን።” ቅጽል ኣቢላ ብዛዕባ ሂወት ክትፋላሰፍን ፈላስፋ ክስቶ ከምዚ በለ ፈላስፋ ክስቶ ከምዚ ደገመ ክትብል ጻሓይ ትዓርብ ኣላ፣ እዚ ናትካ ፍልስፍና ኣብ’ምንታይ ከምዘሽርፎ ሎምስ በቃ ጠፊኡኒ።

    ሓወቦይ ነቲ ነዊሕ ጭሕሙ እንዳ’ሓኸኸ ከምዚ ክብል መለሰላ: ኣየ’ደይ ፍልስፍና’ኮ መሰረታዊ ዝኾነ ሕቶ ናይ ሂወት ክምልስ ዝፍትን ክፋል ናይ ፍልጠት እዩ። ሓንሳብ እንዶ ግዳ ኮፍ’በሊ ቡንኪ እንዳ ሰተኺ ብሓፈሽኡ ፍልስፍና እንታይ ምዃኑ ከዕልለኪ፣ ዓባየይ ሽዑ ሕራይ በል’ስኪ የዕልለኒ በለቶ።

    ሓወቦይ ደስ ኢልዎ ዕላሉ ከምዚ ክብል ጀመረ….

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Dr Paulos,

      So it seems to me, that your love for philosophy has a lot to do with your uncle. He left an imprint on your thinking. In psychology, imprinting is any phase-sensitive learning, occurring at particular stage of your life. Am l right Doctore?

      • Paulos

        Selam Professor A. Hidrat,

        You’re absolutely right. Let me put it this way though: Some people make the argument if in fact Socrates was the product of Plato’s imagination when he made his original ideas about Justice, Ethics among others through a dialogue between a highly intelligent sage [Socrates] and other two individuals of aristocratic lineage. Socrates may never have existed at all.

        I certainly don’t have an illusion of making my comments on par with Plato as I present a dialogue between ሓወቦይ ምራጭን ዓበየይ ኣመተን but let’s assume for now that, they were real and lived in and around ዕዳጋ-ሓሙስ in the 50s.

    • Haile S.

      ሰላም ፖል፡

      በል ብሮስማመንተ ኣርኢኻ ኣይትፋእ። ቅልጥፍ ኢልካ ተመለስ። እንተደንጒኻ ከኣ ወይዘሮ ፋና ክንደርፈልካ ኢና። ትዝክራ’ዶ እዛ ደርፊ?

      • Paulos

        Selam Hailat,

        You should see me laughing. I was actually going to say, prosimmamente instead of ቀዳማይ ክፋል።

        ወይዘሮ ፋና
        ወይዘሮ ፋና
        እቲ’ትባና ሃባና….😂

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Selam Selie,

    Instead wayane this wayane that, why don’t challenge the argument made by Yohannes. The project that is going on the Horn is by far consequential than wayane at this stage. Do you have any concern on the words that are coming out from the PM of Ethiopia? I expect from you to make your own argument and challenge YZ as eloquently as he did in his argument. Your are capable to do that.

    • Mez

      Dear Amanuel H,

      What Memhier SAtSE saying is: the second conclusion by the author Yohannes Z, namely “….Eritrea is conspiring with the federal government and Amhara regional state to encircle and weaken the TPLF” is inherently incorrect/not true.

      We have to carefully take into account the various antagonistic (and self centered) policies of TPLF–since it came to the political arena.

      TPLF does have multiple contradictory political ideologies and policies in a cascaded layer.

      TPLF may need an extended period of self reflection and contextual awakening.

      Thanks

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Mez,

        Whether TPLF made a reflection or not, is not my concern. My concern is our issue, the Eritrean issue. The spokesman of the deal, the PM of Ethiopia is throwing words that worries Eritrean nationalist. So do I. I have a problem with Eritreans who do not have any concern with what the PM is saying about Eritrea. Second, I will rather Waite from Solomon to address my question, than the interpretation from others.

        • Peace!

          Emma

          I think Demarcation is Eritrean issue.

          Peace!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Peace,

            The despot has already postponed it. And the spokesperson, the PM of Ethiopia, has told us that they don’t spoke about it with the despot when he was touring in the US. Don’t blame Ethiopians at this time, blame the owner of the “Eritrean estate” who postponed it. At least that is the official so far,

          • Peace!

            Hi Emma,

            I think pressing for demarcation at this critical junction can potentially mitigate the despot’s imminent messy legacy otherwise things will not change even if he died tomorrow because the motives and demands of other players are simply different. I suspect you know it very well.

            Peace!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Peace,

            Just to make it clear, I am not in the business “to mitigate the legacy of the despot.” Absolutely not. I looking the demise of him to stop his conspiracy.

          • Peace!

            Hi Emma,

            Fine. But whether we like it or not his messy legacy will linger for years to come similar to what you are now dealing with the legacy of HS and other butchers.

            Peace1

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Peace,

            Worry the butchers are coming incarnated in the leaking words of the PM. They are not gaffes, rather they are warning signs, brother. He is rehabilitating our past butchers and Key bahrachin.

          • FishMilk

            Hi Amanuel Hidrat. I bet if you ask Hameed Al-Arabic real politely, he will perform a free exorcism on you, to release those ghosts and conspiracy theories from your head. He might even give you a free baby hyena cub to help you through the rehabilitation process. You guys really need to lay off the ridiculous conspiracy theories cuz it ain’t exactly doing wonders for your credibility rating.

        • Mez

          Dear Amanuel H:

          1) As an Eritrean, you have to worry a lot on what TPLF is doing. See our past 40 years history. Their fingerprint is everywhere.

          2) Your statement: “Whether TPLF made a reflection or not, is not my concern…” is not well placed–when one looks the facts on the ground.

          3) Generally, youn’t like the way pmaaa is doing his business; not every one agree with you.

          4) no one is disputing that pia has to relinquish government power to the people; even pfdj members are getting saturated with his hollow talk.

          Thanks

        • Selamat Ayya Amanuel Hidrat,

          Memhirey Mez is right hitting the hammer on the nail with the concise points above.
          Take for example:
          “TPLF does have multiple contradictory political ideologies and policies in a cascaded layer.
          The TPLF confident with its power delays the demarcation of the border by championing the cause of the Irob and Afar regions of Eritrea under the cover of the political ideology of justice for a people of nationality. This, for me however, is layered with the TPLF’s plan B exit strategy. If it doesn’t get its way in Ethiopia, the TPLF would invoke article 39, declare war on Eritrea on behalf of the Irob and Afar, capture significant land and ports in East Eritrea and become a viable independent republic of Tigray.

          Just a hint of the layers that delude the TPLF and not necessarily a coherent way of saying it.

          Please do accept Memhir Mez’s “interpretation” and argue against the points Mez is making. Perhaps you Ayya Amanuel Hidrat can provide us with the comment on the gains or losses that would result from the TPLF’s cooperation in demarcating the border per PM3A’s decision to accept it as is. I hope you address it now rather than worry and keep repeating PM3A PM3A PM3A.

          tSAtSE

    • Peace!

      Hi Emma,

      The Ethiopian prime mister is ready to pull his forces out and allow demarcation, but apparently, TPLF continues to object unless its license to loot is restored. But, ironically, the blame goes to the Prime Minister for gaffes when TPLF literally blocked the demarcation. I think it would be easier and honest to call Eritreans to scarify demarcation and even die to rescue TPLF despite they benefited nothing from TPLF led Ethiopia. Not fair at all!

      Peace!

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Peace,

        Sorry brother, your comment implied me as if I am against demarcation. I am sure you read my comment when our despot prioritize the Ethiopian problem than demarcating our borders. Second, it is naivety to even think and pass them, the repeated remark of the PM in different forms Ana shaped as gaffes. Do not forget he is spokesperson of the deal as it has been authorized by none other than the despot of our country. ዝኾነ ይኹን ዕድመ እንተ ሂቡና እቲ ሳዕቤን ብሓባር ክንሪኦ ኢና::

        • Peace!

          Hi Emma,

          Of course I am not saying you are against demarcation, come on! My apologies if you felt that way.

          Which one is our priority demarcating the border or dealing with Aby’s rhetoric seemingly intended for internal consumption, and don’t you think demarcated border would put you on a better position against the false dream of Ethiopian elites?

          Peace!

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Hi Peace,

            The Night Hyena who infatuates to work in the dark is responsible of all his country whether it be Tigray or Gonder. I think, he is the first guy who made us hear that border is broken by love, and no need for border during his first visit to Asmara. TPLF is no more in power to request her demarcate the border. She is not responsible of the Ethiopian borders and demarcation. The Night Hyena has founded a committee to demarcate borders between Ethiopian regions which is less important than demarcating borders with neighbors.

            It is astonishing to consider all his speeches and performance on ground as chaffs. His naval base, his custom offices in Massawa and Asseb, his spread of railway from Massawa to Addis Ababa, etc. are too chaffs and for local and international consumption. Please, don’t endeavor to direct people to the wrong enemy. Today, our enemy is the guy whom Isaias bestowed all keys of Eritrea. Our sovereignty is not for consumption whether locally or internationally.

            Al-Arab

          • Peace!

            Hi Hameed,

            The point is if TPLF can agree and let the border be demarcated tomorrow, I see no reason why we should not pressing for demarcation. As for the rest of your comment, shame on us we have miserably failed.

            Peace!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Peace,

            Moving out the army won’t lead to the demarcation of our border. They spokesperson of Issayas, the PM of Ethiopia told you “borders are artificial” and thus they won’t call the international community to demarcate it. After all they told us we are one people.

          • Peace!

            Hi Emma,

            I think withdrawing forces can’t hurt TPLF unless otherwise.

            Peace!

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Amanuel Hidrat,

            Regarding transgression towards our sovereignty as simple issue is very dangerous. I hope not to be applied on us a Tigre adage, “ገብር ንጻፉ ምን ልትረገዝ ደሓኮ ልብል”. A slave says I am saved if his bed is stabbed.

            Al-Arabi

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Hi Peace,

            Absolutely you right, shame on those who always fail us to apprehend and analyse issues quickly. Shame on those very slow understanding Eritreans who hamper us to move in the right time. How many years do you think will take them to conceive what is going on at present? Thirty years, probably.

            Al-Arabi

          • Peace!

            Hi Hameed,

            Don’t depend on anyone. you are smart enough to take the lead.

            Peace!

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Hi Peace,

            The problem is not on whom could lead. A leader who manages the struggle could even be hired, but the problem is who will do the job. Of course, positive performance requires great majority with common understanding. The moment great majority scores common ground of comprehension everything will go smoothly.

            The majority of our elites minds are in vacation, their thoughts are superficial. You watch them jump from branch to branch without clear purpose, they are bad dreamers. They don’t commence from what on the ground, but they build their conclusions on illusion. Truly, they are not better than the layman.

            Al-Arabi

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Peace,

            At this point, for us Eritreans, there is nothing as important as the border issue. We want to see the end of the border saga. But remember, it is not the Ethiopian rhetorics only, wether you like it or not the despot is putting us at a very risky position. I believe the dangerous positions of the two leaders, could make the border demarcation our uniting issue to safeguard our sovereignty.

          • Peace!

            Hi Emma,

            I think you are not focusing on the point I am trying to make. What would TPLF lose if it allows the troops to withdraw and demarcate the border? I see dealing with what’s coming from Ethiopia as a separate issue.

            Peace!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Peace,

            Please, pulling army does not necessary will lead us to demarcation. If the despot “will take us down with him” as told by Amb Andebrhan, then he can not do it by demarcating our borders. Keep in mind, when he gave the authority to the PM to be the spokesperson of their agreement, it means everything is left for Ethiopians to decide the fate of Eritrea.

          • Amanuel

            Hi Peace
            Sorry for the interjection here but what should be the priority to the F. Government now in your opinion? To delivery the boarder demarcation with Eritrea or to embark on identity and regional borders with in Ethiopian, which complicates the former, i.e Eritrean boarder demarcation. For example raising boundary issue between Amhara & Tigray regions now will give the TPLF excuse not to cooperate with any of them. They were unwilling party in the first place and giving them another excuses is a cunning plan devised by Abiy. Saying I will make Eritrean & Ethiopian boarders meaningless won’t wash while you set up a commission to facilitate border and identity issues with in your country regional states.

            Having said the above lets concentrate on the issues unit us. For example I hope you agree with me on the following
            1) Free all political prisoners in Eritrea immediately
            2) Invite all Eritreans to participate in their country reconstruction & political life with out precondition
            3) Have a constitutional government
            Now do you think the border demarcation is obstacle to the above? I think NO. The threat of war is removed and what is stopping Eritreans from embarking on internal reform? I think the problem is IA, and let’s do what we can to remove him peacefully. Looking at all the options, the safest way is the Zimbabwe way, followed by the above three points.

          • Peace!

            Hi Amanuel,

            I think my point is simple and straight forward- why TPLF is sabotaging the border demarcation when the federal government is ready to implement the Algiers agreement? I asked Amanuel Hidrat just incase I was not fully informed on the current situation but he politely diverted the subject and blamed Aby for almost everything.

            As for the rest of your points, spot on in fact that’s exactly what we have been talking for years. But the major obstacle to the unity of Eritreans is that one cannot practically be Pro-TPLF and against PFDJ at the same time. TPLF led Ethiopia was a problem for justice seeking Eritrea, and now, an obstacle for demarcation.

            Peace!

          • Amanuel

            Hi Peace
            Thanks for your reply.
            Sorry I have to ask again. Do you think demarcation is the real obstacle to the three points I have raised above? If not, I think we can drop the TPLF issue we don’t agree on and work on very important issues unit us. Our main obstacle right now is we expect to agree on every point which is not possible. Let’s first identify the very fundamental issues and and try to agree on them.
            Thanks

          • Peace!

            Hi Amanuel,

            I think the border issue is pretty much a resolved issue that the Ethiopian federal government has already accepted the agreement and ready to demarcate the border. But, apparently, TPLF is rejecting the demarcation, and we Eritreans are asking why? If you have a convincing answer I would be glad to take it and put the question to rest.

            Peace!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear Peace,

            The border is not a settled one until they put the “markers” on the ground with the help of the international community. The fact as to why the international cartography are invited to finalize the demarcation shows you, that both the leaders are not ready to demarcate our borders. As they officially told us the border is not their priority. They are busy with the internal problem of Ethiopia. When the PM as a spokesperson of EPRDF accepted the ruling and are ready to implement the decision of EEBC, it was the decision of EPRDF as a ruling party endorsed by the parliament, and wasn’t the decision of the PM (as it works in our case). So we Eritreans instead to call the Eritrean Government to make its priority, we are acting like ዘሕምቆ አለኒ በትሪ ሃቡኒ::

            At this point, If the despot wanted it, it will happen and if he doesn’t it won’t happen. And that is the case with the border issue as it stand right now. The Ethiopian leaders and their coalition party EPRDF are ready to do it. I hope this time I am clear to you. Now it is the duty of us Eritreans to make all kinds of pressures both from inside and abroad to the Eritrean Governments to make the border issue their priority and call the international community to demarcate our borders before any change comes on the acceptance from the Ethiopian side. We never know how the crises of Ethiopia will evolve.

          • Peace!

            Hi Emma,

            Are you saying TPLF’s objection to demarcation has no impact at all? Why do you think of the fact that TPLF has been settling people at the Eritreans territory and organizing protests when demarcation issue raised or the federal army tries to withdraw? Yes, with all due respect, you are not clear as far as practical impediment for demarcation concerned? As for the betreay Habuni Zhmeko Aleni , it is not a secret TPLF betrayed Eritreans for decades, and now holding our border issue as a bargaining chip for restoring its looting license. We blame PFDJ for the heinous crimes and TPLF for its vicious betrayal. The point is double standard and trust do not go together.

            Peace!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Peace,

            Sometimes, history does help as to why the despot is not interested on the demarcation of the border. Just listen to the testimony of one of the founders of the “village Badme”, and how EPLF gave the village and its environs to be administered by TPLF in 1981, after they push out EKF until that fateful day May 6, 1998. It will help us to understand as to why the despot does not make the demarcation of the border his priority.

            Second, since TPLF is a member of EPRDF, the ruling coalition party, they accepted the ruling. Let the government of Eritrea make it their priority and call the international community to come with their cartographers to put the markers on the ground, then we will see as to whether TPLF will resist or not. Besides, I am for land swapping in the central region where our land is given to Ethiopia and theirs to us, in which the people of both sides on the border are complaining. The ruling does allow to make small adjustments if both parties agreed to do that.

            https://youtu.be/co4zGHVCW3w

          • Peace!

            Hi Emma,

            Thanks for the effort. I didn’t think the question was that complicated. I mean if someone asked me the same question, why TPLF is sabotaging demarcation, my response would be – well, I do not know…that’s TPLF’s position, but I can safely say TPLF has been in aggressive expansion mood that it has settlers on the border with Amhara, Ertirea, and not sure the border deal with Sudan. This is a serious issue that will not disappear with the departure of PFDJ or dictator, and the sooner it is settled the better for both people.

            Peace!

          • Selam Peace,

            If you allow me to ask the following questions:
            -Who went for arbitration (because it was certain that the decision will favor it? – It was Tplf.
            -Who refused to implement the eebc decision? – tplf.
            -Who came up with the five point plant to drag the issue and slept on it for years with the help of the eritrean regime? – tplf.
            -Does vacating badme go against the greater tigray dream? – Yes.
            -Is it possible that tplf may also be forced to return the annexed lands from amhara state to their owners once it vacates badme? – Possible.
            -How could it think of independence if its landmass is going to regress?
            -With tplf far from power, do you think that it will easily accept what others are deciding for it, as long as it was against the decision in the first place? Will its ego allow it?

            For tplf, opposing the implementation of the eebc decision is not odd, but simply a knee-jerk reaction, and it should have been expected. Those who say that tplf plays no role are making a big mistake.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Hi Horizon,

            First compose the committee that demarcate the border from the two sides and an international side, then come and speak about a body that is not ruling at present. Your logic implies that Ethiopia is still ruled by TPLF and the game over dramas, and the Night Hyena is just an empty tank hanged over a building called Ethiopia. You mean Ethiopia is without a leader and heading towards disintegration.

            I am very sad to watch a country with 3000 years of fake history and independence in such kind of bone-chilling situation. The Amharic adage will be applied on you, “የቆጥን ኣወዳለሁ ብላ የብብትዋን ጣለች”. A greedy person who looks on what others possess is a loser by all measures.

            Al-Arabi

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear Peace,

            I don’t think you could miss this, but any legal ruling has legal implementation process for it. You know it both governments could not implement it without the help of the international communities, specifically the UN in this case. If the markers are not planted on the ground with the help of UN cartographers, there will be no demarcation in reality. You recall the UN welcomed Ethiopia on its acceptance of the ruling of EEBC, and they were ready to help them to implement the ruling on the ground. The despot deferred the demarcation for unknown date, to help his pal, the PM of Ethiopia, who is overwhelmed by social crises of epic proportion. At this point blame the leader of Eritrea who kept hostage the border issue. He has no any interest to do it. After all the PM of Ethiopia told us that they will not let the two people to be divided by artificial borders, which I also believe the despot will agree with him. You see brother, while our eyes are stuck on wayane for ever, the two leaders are working hard hard to steal the aspiration of our people in a day light. To stop the conspiracy against the aspiration of our people, someone has to neutralize the despot. Other than that, there is no other alternative way, that we could stop this dangerous conspiracy looming in front of our eyes.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Hi Peace,

            Primarily, let us question: Where is the committee formed from the two sides that TPLF stand on her way to demarcate the border? I think, formation of a body that demarcates the border precedes implementation demarcation on the ground. It appears according to your logic, first you put poles on the border later you form the committee. I hope I am right according to how you visualize things upside down.

            My friend, the Night Hyena is auguring his people about coming back of Eritrea to her Mama Ethiopia not about demarcating the border. If all the plain signs are not enough to make you understand then what could we do for you to make you understand?

            Al-Arabi

          • Peace!

            Hammeed,

            ኣታ AIFA there is such thing called multitasking/thinking.

            Peace!

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Hi Peace,

            Sure, you have multitasking here in this forum. You are here to hinder Eritreans from defending their sovereignty; unite to face their enemies. You have to perceive the game is over with Isaias and his phonies.

            Al-Arabi

          • Selamat Ayya Amanuel Hidrat,

            “At this point, for us Eritreans, there is nothing as important as the border issue. We want to see the end of the border saga.” YES.

            TPLF must implement the border demarcation. TPLF must relinquish on its current stance. Yes on unity and sovereignty.

            tSAtSE

    • Selamat Ayya Amamuel Hidrat,

      I am not one who blames anything and everything that goes wrong for Eritrea on the TPLF. Above I have focused on the the significant shortcomings of the article written by Yohanns Zerrai. Under the cover of Isaias is the devil, Yohanns is pleading for the people of Eritrea to come together and defend the TPLF. Yohanns is telling us Isaias, Mohamed Abdulahi and PM3A are encircling and endangering the TPLF and for us to do something about it. All I am saying is even if such is the case, it is as a result of TPLF’s dictatorial behaviors in the past three decades towards Eritrtrea, Somalia and the rest of Ethiopia. Since it continues to hold hostage the three independent states by insisting not demarcate the Eritrean Ethiopian border, loosen its tight grip of the powerful manipulations in the internal affairs of Ethiopia, and its continued interference in the internal affairs of Somalia, Yohanns Zerrai could have put forth the argument that the TPLF continues to threaten the three nations and regional peace of the horn. Yohannes Zerrai will not do that however because his main concern is the protection of the current status quo which is the dominance of the TPLF.
      So I am putting forth an argument based on what the author of the article wrote. He told us the TPLF is under threat. My concern is not whether the TPLF is under threat or not. My concern as an Eritrean is for the immediate demarcation of the border so that there aren’t any lingering and debilitating fears on the Eritrean who wishes to tackle other pertinent and existential matters. The TPLF with its policy NOT to demarcate the border is the one and only major hinderance for progress in Eritrea and for the entire region. The TPLF continues to hod the process hostage solely for the its survival which does not necessarily mean the well being of Tigray.

      Again I am not saying Weyane this Weyane that. YZ said TPLF is under threat and I am saying TPLF is threatening Eritrea and the region. Elloquent and well written articles does not impress me, it is what is written between the lines I am choosing to expose. There are TPLF defenders and there are PFDJ and Isaias defenders. Both desperate to survive and protect their destructive powers of three long decades bickering against one another should not blind us into seeing what is the TRUTH.

      tSAtSE

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Selie,

        This comment is a “reaction of dislike” to the article, the same like the first one. First, what I was expecting from you is to rebut point by point and paragraph by paragraph where you disagree with YZ. Second I was also expecting to make your argument as to why you support the “opaque agreement” between the three countries and the objective realities for it on the ground. Third, YZ didn’t defend TPLF, rather he explained the strategy of the two leaders visa vis TPLF. And that by itself shouldn’t give the impression of supporting them by any means. So in conclusion if you don’t want to go beyond disagreement reaction, then I close my case.

        • Selamat Ayya Amanuel Hidrat,

          You said:
          “Second I was also expecting to make your argument as to why you support the “opaque agreement” between the three countries and the objective realities for it on the ground.”

          The objective realities for it on the ground has a cause of imbalance that does need to be addressed sooner than later. If there is a party that is stubbornly not taking advantage of these new regional circumstances, by pulling out the trump card the basis of which is force wielding, then circumventing the blocking, the other parties privy to the border ruling agreement move forward in the normalization of their relations. Since the TPLF is refusing to abide by the agreement then Eritrea, Ethiopia less TPLF, Somalia and others in the region will move forward by normalizing their respective relations. It is the TPLF that is refusing to play by international norms. I believe Eritrea, Somalia and the rest of Ethiopia would welcome gladly to the table of three as soon as the TPLF decides to respect, in agreement with Ethiopia’s Federal government, the satisfying of Ethiopia’s international obligations.

          YZ only sees the threat to the TPLF. The source of the threat is not thin air. He is neglectful of Eritrean concerns, the finalizing of the border war which can be achieved when TPLF/Weyane fulfills it by demarcating the border.
          Eritreans must insist on agreements from other Eritreans when they have a valid argument. The current circumstances, which is not dire or urgent by far, has made it clear the divides of the mundane monotonous Eritrean politics. When it comes to that something has to give for the sake of Eritrea’s unity.

          tSAtSE

          • Amanuel

            Hi tSAtSE
            You are not addressing the elephant in the room” how to bring change in Eritrea”. Sadly you have moved from the cage of first demarcation to the TPLF is blocking it now.
            Do you think demarcation and change in Eritrea are related?
            YZ discussed about the risk of integration between three unstable countries and present his reasons. What do you think about this issue? For me it is like putting the cart before the horse. They don’t have the necessary infrastructure to carry it out. Imagine Eritrea has one institution called IA, Somalia is a failed state, Ethiopian well they need to secure their unity first. I mention the EU the other day. Even though they have the best institutions, they are struggling to keep it together.
            YZ mentioned the role of external forces, specially KSA & UAE and again what it your thought/comment on that? Last week there was a panel discussion in London and one panellists described the whole issue as “The marriage of convenience funded by ambulance chasers”
            Reducing YZ article to that of saving TPLF is not only intellectuall dishonesty but also day light robbery.

          • Selamat Amanuel and Ayya Amanuel Hidrat,

            On the contrary. In fact I am addressing “the elephant in the room how to bring change in Eritrea.” Eritreans be they in extreme opposition to Isaias or supporters can agree on this: The full demarcation of the Eritrean Ethiopian border is the one thing that can effect significant change in Eritrea. Ending the debilitating aggressive policy of TPLF’s Ethiopia towards Eritrea for the past two decades would free the most productive Eritrean citizens. These freed minds and physical bodies would immediately commence the addressing of numerous Eritrean development agendas, including human rights and the establishment of the rule of law. No longer bound to sacrifice their lives in the military camps and trenches of the border, naturally the very first thing they would address is the establishment of their inter-Eritrean rules of engagement and how to proceed forward in the governing of their nation. The closure of the very long and destructive border war / constricting “no war no peace” TPLF policy on the issue would bring forth tremendous dividends and CHANGE for Eritrea. Unfortunately, the TPLF is continuing to insist holding hostage the Eritreans by not cooperating with the Federal government rapprochement with Eritrea leaving the border conflict with Eritrea as unresolved and an issue that causes the Eritrean much distress. What costs would be generated for the TPLF if they were to accept the resolution for the border as proposed/accepted by the federal government? Have the Ayya AH, Amanuels and Eritrean opposition in general performed a genuine cost analysis of the scenario of TPLF accepting the border ruling as is and consistent with PM3A and Ethiopia’s federal government decision? On the basis of such study or scrutiny have he YZs and Eritrean opposition formulated their policy or plan of actions or road map for a the change we seek in Eritrea?

            Amanuel, you say I have moved from “demarcation first” to “TPLF is blocking it.” Not only is this utterly wrong but it is also an attempt by you to paint me into the camp of PFDJ regime fanatics so that you can dilute the argument or my addressing the real “elephant in the room.” I did not infact insist on demarcation first but yes you are right I am now disgusted by TPLF’s position of continuing to constricting Eritreans progress. So, I will dismiss your conjecture since you have probably not paid attention to my nearly two decades of writing opinions.

            “YZ discussed about the risk of integration between three unstable countries and present his reasons. What do you think about this issue?”
            Yes he did. And after he discussed the risks he concluded with the risks to the TPLF he perceives. My issue is why does not YZ discuss the opportunities for both Eritrea, Tigray and all of Ethiopia in general with a positive decision by the TPLF to implement the border ruling and demarcation.

            “YZ mentioned the role of external forces, specially KSA & UAE and again what is your thought/comment on that?”

            I view this as no different that Isaias and PFDJ’s xenophobia they have instilled on the Eritrean psyche and major cause of paralysis. If we are to consider the TPLF to be a non external player, why is YZ worrying and fear mongering of the external forces when the internal decision by the TPLF to resolve the border issue can propel forward the region and in particular Eritrea? For us to exist as humans we owe a lot to a particular motion which is the spin of the earth’s iron core. The molten iron’s charged particles is responsible for the electromagnetic field that shields the earth from harmful rays as well as the sustaining of earth’s atmosphere which traps water essential for life. This is analogous to how motion of Eritrea’s core would be capable to generate fields of protection from external threats, be they KSA or UAE or even the USA. Lack of motion on the other hand erodes the natural shields for Eritrea that would arise as soon as the TPLF releases the bounds it is imposing on the border. The dynamics of external forces can be dictated on Eritrea’s terms only if the stagnant stand still at the border is relinquished by the TPLF. Yes, RELINQUISHED! The definition of the word and the natural physics of the region based on “reason” and “experience” will continue in my conversation with
            ሓወቦይ ምራጭ. After all
            “እቲ ንተፈጥሮ ክንርደኦ ንኽእል ብእምነት ወይ’ካኣ ብኣጉል ባህሊ ዘይኮነ :ብሕዋሳትና ተሞረኲስና ንረኽቦ ሓበሬታን [Reason] ተመኩሮን [Experience] ጥራሕ እዩ ዝብል ቢሂ temorkise iyye that I have reduced YZ’s article to “that of saving TPLF.” “Dishonesty” and “robbery” be it at night or daylight, I am afraid I am not capable of. Though it sounds like a good ending sentence, you have no basis whatsoever for such charcterization to my opinion on YZ and his article.

            tSAtSE

          • Amanuel

            Hi GitSAtSE
            Thanks for your reply, even though you are still continuing on the bender of TPLF binge.
            If I understood you correctly you are saying that demarcation & chane are related in a way that the former is holding Eritrea from reform or introducing change. I think that is a cagey idea devised by IA and you are falling for it. I agree It would have been helpful but is not an obstacle as the threat of war is gone and there is no excuse for the state of emergency to continue.

          • Selamat Amanuel,

            No. Your phrasing makes it seem as if I have fallen for something “cagey devised by IA.” No worries it will become evident soon enough. Also, the state of emergency is no longer as Eritreans are freely traveling and trading back and forth with Ethiopia. Maybe not as much good will trading within TPLF controlled Tigray until they implement the border demarcation but Eritreans do feel free of threats from elsewhere deep Ethiopia. For a full blown up recovery from war all that is needed is for TPLF to end it once and for all. It is trapping and encircling itself – that’s all.

            tSAtSE

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Selie,

            You said: “The objective realities for it on the ground has a cause of imbalance that does need to be addressed sooner than later.” Isn’t it then, the mere reason that we are saying it is a fake agreement without objective realities. Somalia is a failed state burned with a clan conflicts, Ethiopia is burned with ethnic conflict rooted on “mistrust and hate” to each other, and Eritrea is “a real estate of one man.” This objective realities is not conducive be it for a “ political and economic integration” for which most Eritreans are clapping naively. The Ethiopians are rehabilitating the forces who are the antithesis of Eritrean Sovereignty and Eritrean interests.

            Second, you said: “YZ ‘only’ sees the threat to the TPLF.” This is completely wrong and dishonest from you side. YZ article is not limited on the “threat to the TPLF”. He argued (a) on the lack of objective realities on the ground for the tripartite countries for the so called deal (b) He argued on the external forces who became the driving force for the deal (US,UAE, Saudi) as oppose to the internal factors of the countries (c) He argue on the strategy of “Issu and the PM” on the internal forces of Ethiopia (d) He argue Eritrea and Eritreans are not beneficiary from the current agreement as long as the Eritrean leader gave full authority to the Ethiopian leader (e) He argued on the dissimilarities of the leaders in their attributes that will eventually be the cause frictions (f) and many more. Agree/disagree, the gentleman gave a broad analysis so far never seen of its kind and weight on the on going tripartite Gonder agreement. So instead rebutting the entire piece, you pick one point of your dislike and blackmailed him as wayane to the good man. That is not good at all. For us Eritreans, since the border issue our prime issue, why didn’t ask your leader

  • Selamat AT,

    Who is moderating the forum? Here you go hindering genuine dialogue amongst the stakeholders? Its really perplexing the stagnation you are exhibiting.

    tSAtSE

  • AliSalim

    Hi Emma,

    I think the way people react to what they see ranged in from the very sensitive to indifferent. That’s why we have the concept of professionalism which neutralizes the appearance of things.

    I am not mad because PIA was depicted as Satan and I think the artist should apologize to Satan. The problem here is that (from experience) the writers have no control over what picture should accompany the article. The way it happens is the editor reads the article upon submission and decides on what readers should conclude or expect from the article. He sticks an abstract in the form of these images.

    I used to enjoy writing on awate and I used to feel very offended when SJ would surprise me with images that I thought were inappropriate for what I meant to say. In my I found to effort of spending hours to write an article a waste of time. I found other alternatives for the addition but I get tempted to come back.

    In my opinion a forum should only serve as platform for dialogue and any such manipulation is bias. If you have ways with the AT convince them to refrain from the temptation to tug their personal biases to other people’s articles.

    I’ll postpone comments YZ and continue the crusade to liberate Awate from itself.

  • said

    Greeting YZ
    As always an Excellent Sweeping Article .Thank you for in-depth analyses one of its kind as eloquent, thorough, detailed and, given the fact ,you come out shining and you are the towering moral and you have an unwavering position and you have not been silent. Certainly the most eloquent among few Eritrean critical thinkers and scholars, turning the Nus delusional political aspiration upside down. Do not give much attention to those who are critics of you, they are trying to put your good names and reputations maligned. They have, to be sure, you paid the price willingly and confidently for speaking truth to power they are sold-out long-time ago and they are particularly muffled, intellectually dishonest, and morally compromised. You stand infinitely superior to the moral equivocations of any of them . Do not listen to whatever gibberish they speak? They are deranged and deeply colonised mind, that can not be changed ,Pls do not give attention ,they are like mirror of tyrannical outfits like Nus , They never have a need or an urge to know anything about anywhere unless their slave kind of service of their master NUS requires ,they are deeply dishonest ,arrogant ,ignorant and dysfunctional knowledge of what is happing and do not want to admit it. There is no love ,they are empathy heartless like hermeneutic feel, they do not care of affective to encounter, no moral investment in our people’s sufferings . no moral stake in what our people are suffering in their liberated country that NUS has inflicted upon our people, our people stranger in their own country so sad it have to come to that and for rest of majority is, of course, an abstraction, the mere assumption of that majority. This tyranny of the majority, as it is manufactured by PFDJ sole interest group or regime supporters who filter recent historical facts through the distorted lenses of their own particular interests.. It is fictive. That is why it is so why PFDJ powerful. Eritrean being brutalised into such a frightful taboo that no serious critical thinker and intellectual dares address our problems, without overcoming the fear of retribution by NUS cohort ; and, when they collect their courage to do so, as we see Awata form it is done with such very muffled arguments that, it makes a mockery of the very idea of critical thinking. No one has paid more dearly and spoken more forcefully and eloquently than the Eritreans themselves, Eritrean in diaspora are suffering the indignity of long exile, Eritrean as a people, as scholars, intellectuals, historians, archivists, journalists, artists and religious leaders and elders , what they have suffered and abated suffering , what we scream, write and write , we sing, dance, photograph, tell and recite in our poetry or detail in their works of art. That we do exist

    while a majority certainly not all are patriotic, some are intelligent, and hard working … they are also blind to be lead by Crypto leader . Regime cohort are prone to both incompetence and corruption. These mavericks have the same virtues as the majority — but they are definitely loyal to NUS , and real patriotic they possess something else: an inner drive that is very rare. Their numbers are few within top leadership.
    Since resurgence of supreme leader newly appointed PMAA the horn and Eritrea in particular will have a profound impact on the region—politically, socially, militarily, economically, and culturally. Regional power configurations and alignments—in peace and or in war—Eritrea already been deeply affected by the resurgence PMAA . with no real democracy developed either in Eritrea and Ethiopia or elsewhere in horn . NUS supreme leader spoke at every public rallies in early 1990 but he did not trust Eritrean masses (SHBIA/HAFASH) to elect him as Eritrean leader without lasting guidance from him. He represented dark side of rule brutality and in effect rejected all notions of a free, democratic independent electoral system. For IA and his cohort political process and that participating in elections and governing, even within limits, or Eritrean participating in national legislative elections, would violate EPLF absolute rule. independent parties where not permitted or giving a chance to form one. Collectively Eritrean people and that form vast majority they are struggle for democracy and respect for human rights and for the rule of law, as well as preserving the national security and territorial integrity of their beloved country,
    The regime’s brutal suppression of many protest movement in Akrai in 2018 is one a case in point. NUS latest reincarnation an unsavory radical an atheist commonest found and he is prone to Maoist revolutionary zeal and violence. which has dominated Eritrean political scene for the past 30 years.
    IA Crypto Eritrean dictatorship and has completely aligned himself with mama Ethiopia ,has showing his true real self and with PMAA agenda are two sides of the same coin serving the same purpose . IA his hardly-concealed hatred for Eritrea was obvious . No one believed in NUS prophecy at the time. But he is being proven right finally, we finally discover that pretending to be true nationalist and he something else Crypto Eritrean ,we closed our mind to see him as he was and this was to be the most overlooked and we got dubbed and now we saw clear display of nation-wide discontent with IA Crypto Eritrean. Eritrean people for most bottom servile class who are not supposed to have a any voice and rights —this, you see, is now Eritrea. It is no surprise either, which is falling apart in front of their eyes. This is the bottom of the degradation, in the process of which we find Eritrean being treated with the very same attitude or worst for some as we were treated under Ethiopian regime . Sadly PFDJ continue their war against Eritrean people whoever they designate as enemy of the state, as per their own Moist and Bolshevik definition. will anybody in this new Eritrea forgive their crimes? Plenty of crime ?

    IA and PMAA , they both abhor true democratic politics and the ensuing real freedoms. IA Crypto Eritrean drifted toward subjection and repression. PFDJ ignored democratic and with no constitutional constraints on the executive power and to give themselves a life-long hold on power. Based on zealot ideology and by gone era doctrine. PMAA is wrong to decided and to give support for IA hated and dying Eritrean tyrant and his support in crushing the opposition to his regime. which is not welcome in dark spot in the bloody history of Eritrea . which Eritrean people have suffered for almost 30 years. both opposition within Eritrea and in the diaspora. One group minority reformists within PFDJ exist in silent , the people true opposition and in diaspora , human rights activists among many , and others, believes that it is up to the Eritrean people living in Eritrea how to change the political system in their country
    Since Eretria states became independent in 1991 we are living is the creation of a brutal, vicious ,heart and soulless regime .EPLF since entering Asmara Sadly and miserably achieved no tangible accomplishments in any means of prosperity from simple agriculture and fisher production , in failing in every sector ,in education ,in health , in trade , innovation, industrialization, manufacturing, technology, and forget university scientific discoveries, Nada .
    that would make murderer Bolshevik Stalin’s Communism seem like Disneyland in comparison.
    Eritrea continues to produce per capita more, human misery and refugee persons than any other region in the world. Ethiopia is facing many separatist tendencies, which they conceal under the guise of calling for Ethiopian federal system that would partition the country into various regions based on ethnicity. Ethiopia “cause of democracy” still infancy . for a country running budget and trade deficits for 20 years with high total debt, including unfunded liabilities, in the hundreds of Billions of dollars. Ethiopia will soon face collapsing currencies and exploding debts payment and this rapid growth has not happened without major risk. Ethiopia is today in a precarious position with total debt having grown. As long as Ethiopia can avoid a disorderly debt collapse and may be a revolution in making, But the next few years will be tumultuous for both country.

    • Yohannes Zerai

      Dear Said,

      Nobody can fail to imagine the reservoir of goodwill that produced the effusion of praise, accolades and encouragement that your comment conveyed to me for the article I posted. While I am highly appreciative of the gesture, I honestly and sincerely believe that I do not deserve anything save perhaps a little credit for the effort that went into preparing the article. More deserving of the effusive praise and support are the men and women at this forum who, free of any selfish motives — that would be manifested as ego, showmanship, arrogance, pretense, opportunism, intrigue, etc. — debate issues tirelessly with the best interest of Eritrea and its people in their hearts. So with your permission, I would like to metaphorically/symbolically channel the accolades and encouragement to them in tribute to their modesty, dedication and patriotism. Finally, on behalf of these great citizens and on my own behalf, I express my humble and heartfelt gratitude for the positive spirit that the introduction of your comment projected.

  • FishMilk

    Hi All. One can no longer accuse EP Eritrean Press of being a mouthpiece for PIA/PFDJ regime with the below article:
    07 Feb 2019 – (EP) Eritrean President-For-Life Isaias Afwerki held extensive discussions yesterday in Abu Dhabi with Crown Prince Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed Al-Nahyan.

    The talks centred on “status, recent progress and measures” that will be taken to enhance bilateral ties of friendship and cooperation between the two countries, according to Eritrean Information Minister Yemane G. Meskel.

    Unfortunately, Eritreans have no understanding of the “recent progress” the two countries have made or will take.

    In Part 1 of an interview conducted with national media outlets on 3 November 2018 (there was supposed to be a Part 2 a week later), President Isaias, the only legislative, executive, and judicial power of the country, yet again reminded us of the need to critically examine the root causes of the challenges faced by Eritrea over nearly eight decades. Yes, over the past 80 years!

    Sadly, what Eritreans wanted to hear, the Part 2 interview of the domestic issues and the ramifications of the recent historic peace agreement between Eritrea and Ethiopia and other related developments cancelled ‘indefinitely’ without any explanation.

    In a country where there is no transparency and accountability, our government has chosen to delegate, discuss and update “recent progress” to non-Eritreans whilst ignoring its own citizen.

    • Paulos

      FM,

      ህዝባዊ ግምባርና ናታ ኣሳራርሓ ኣለዋ። ዓቕሊ ጥራሕ ንግበር፣ ህዝባዊ ግምባርና ምስ ክቡር መራሒና ብረዚደንት ሃገረ ኤርትራ ኢሳያስ ኣፍወርቂ መስተንክር ዝኾነ ቅያ ከተርእየና እያ! ንኺድ ጥራሕ!

    • Haile S.

      Hi FishMilk,
      What does EP stands for? Extraterrestrial Profile or Eritrean Profile? If the latter, where did you get it? Didn’t see it in Shabait.

    • Hameed Al-Arabi

      Hi FishMilk,

      “our government has chosen to delegate, discuss and update “recent progress” to non-Eritreans whilst ignoring its own citizen.”

      Your government has chosen to delegate with those who concern her. I don’t think you have forgotten that you want Eritrea, the land and sea, without her people. My friend, the Night Hyena and the Gonderye want a vacant Eritrea from her people. Your game with the people of Eritrea is over. Don’t waste your time with Eritreans, just serve your masters or they will become angry from you.

      Al-Arabi

      • FishMilk

        Hi Hameed-Al Arabi. One group that you absolutely never attack here are the known TPLF sympathizers. Everyone can see through your -Extremist- smokescreen, in your ‘at all costs’ effort to overthrow the PIA/PFDJ regime. I clearly recall your posts of old in regards to your desire to implement Sharia Law in Eritrea. You can play your shennanigans with the TPLF sympathizers here, but for everyone else, we clearly know the dirty and dishonest game that you are playing.

        • Hameed Al-Arabi

          Hi FishMilk,

          I know you don’t go far out of the set that your grandfather Haile Selase has drawn for you. He has taught you how to divide and rule. The only profession you excel at, the rest talk without embarrassment about poverty, backwardness, etc. Your old artifice Islam and Christianity will never work again. At present, Eritreans are spotting your ploys instantly.

          Yesterday, I have watched a video of a guy named Tesfai Temnowo who was dressed an opposition gown and attempts to divide among Eritreans. Typical works of Isaias. I think this is Isaias’ last ditch of endeavor, but the game is over. He is exposed to all true Eritreans clearly.

          I wonder about your wailing and weeping. Your elder brother has put you on your Mama bosom, no need to cry. Yeah! I have gotten it; you have a savage Mama.

          Regarding TPLF, you could make them soup and drink or grill them, burger them and entertain yourselves, or eat them raw meat as you like die to eat raw meat. It is your choice, they are your brothers and sisters. As an Eritrean, definitely I will be disgusted from your savage and inhumane works.

          Al-Arabi

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Hameed,

            If you think Isaias created division among Eritreans you must be a total dunce. The fact, which you are reluctant to admit, is that Eritreans have been divided long before Isaias, and they will remain divided.

        • Simon Kaleab

          Selam FishMilk,

          He is playing the Trojan Horse game.

  • FishMilk

    Hi All. One can no longer call EP Eritrean Press the mouthpiece of PIA/PFDJ with the article below which they released today:
    07 Feb 2019 – (EP) Eritrean President-For-Life Isaias Afwerki held extensive discussions yesterday in Abu Dhabi with Crown Prince Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed Al-Nahyan.

    The talks centred on “status, recent progress and measures” that will be taken to enhance bilateral ties of friendship and cooperation between the two countries, according to Eritrean Information Minister Yemane G. Meskel.

    Unfortunately, Eritreans have no understanding of the “recent progress” the two countries have made or will take.

    In Part 1 of an interview conducted with national media outlets on 3 November 2018 (there was supposed to be a Part 2 a week later), President Isaias, the only legislative, executive, and judicial power of the country, yet again reminded us of the need to critically examine the root causes of the challenges faced by Eritrea over nearly eight decades. Yes, over the past 80 years!

    Sadly, what Eritreans wanted to hear, the Part 2 interview of the domestic issues and the ramifications of the recent historic peace agreement between Eritrea and Ethiopia and other related developments cancelled ‘indefinitely’ without any explanation.

    In a country where there is no transparency and accountability, our government has chosen to delegate, discuss and update “recent progress” to non-Eritreans whilst ignoring its own citizen.

  • Haile S.

    Selam Awatawian,
    Some poem for reflexion:

    ፕረሲደንት ኤርትራ ኣሎ ብዙሕ ዝገበሮ
    ዳርጋ ኩሉ ስርሑ ንዜጋ የሕዝኖ የንጸርጽሮ

    ሓንቲ ግን ኣላ ካይተፈለጦ ጽቡቕ ዝገበራ
    ሓንቲ እንኮ ዝመለቖቶ ካብዚ ኩሉ ንዕቀተ-ፈኸራ

    ንህዝቢ ገይርዎ ክምለስ ነናብ ቤት እምነቱ
    ሰይጣን ከምዝርኣየ በሪሩ ክዕቆብ ኣብ መላእኽቱ

    ገይርዎ ደጋሚ ቃላት፡ ንስኻ ለዋህ ዓቃል ለጋስ ኣሜን ኣሜን
    ደድሕሪ ንሱ ይኹን ደድሕሪ ሰባኺ ዝጭድር ከም ሓሜን

  • FishMilk

    Hi All. TPLF ATTEMPT TO DERAIL PEACE – AN UPDATE: An exclusively TPLF regional council rejected PM Abiy’s border commission on 26 January, despite its approval in December by the federal parliament, in the latest manifestation of the rupture between Addis Ababa and Tigray. The ongoing manhunt for former spy chief Getachew Assefa, adds bad spice.

    In Amhara, the Qemant minority has become restive, to the west of Gondar. Local ethnic Amhara accuse a TPLF- linked company, Sur Construction, of trafficking arms to the Qemant, who have been campaigning for greater administrative autonomy and are, verbally at least, supported by TPLF activists. Because of the allegations, when Sur’s road-building vehicles were leaving the area, they had to have military escort. This raised suspicions of some Amhara, who insisted on searching the convoy, and a firefight resulted with soldiers shooting several people dead.

    PM Abiy needs the TPLF for the rapprochement with Eritrea but they are proving difficult. Tigray’s cooperation is necessary for new border arrangements, especially as some Ethiopian communities, such as Badme and the Irob people, are being ‘encouraged’ by the TPLF to refuse to become part of Eritrea. Suspicion has solidified in Tigray that PM Abiy’s deal with Issayas involves the downfall and humiliation of the TPLF. Unless PM Abiy somehow manages to renew the TPLF leadership, as he has done in other weaker regions, or there are concessions made to Tigray, which may well mean angering Amhara nationalists, it is not clear how the feud will be resolved, except with eventual Federal force.

    The TPLF leadership needs to quickly get their act together!

    • Amanuel

      Hi FM
      Out of curiosity why do they need boarder commission with in Ethiopia? I think they are misplacing their priority. What they need to do is to persuade the Tigray regional government to help with demarcation with Eritrean boarders. However, the responsibility lies with the F. Government and they can’t delegate to Tigray to implement it.

      I don’t know about the Irob people but there is not such as Badme people or Ethiopian community in Badme. The people who reside in Badme now are invaders who were allowed to settle, first with the blessing IA (1985) and then, by force after 1998. The solution is not complex democrat the boarder on the ground and if some people don’t want part of Eritrea, they can cross to Ethiopian and vice versa.

      • Selamat Amanuel,

        “The solution is not complex demarcate the boarder on the ground and if some people don’t want to be part of Eritrea, they can cross to Ethiopian and vice versa.” YES

        The ball is on the TPLF’s court. And the TPLF is refusing to serve for the volly to commence.

        tSAtSE

  • Nitricc

    Asmara, 05 February 2019- Eritrean cultural troupes comprising Sibrit and other legendary and young musicians and singers are scheduled to perform in various Ethiopian cities. According to the schedule, the group will perform in Bahr-Dar on 16 February, 17 February in Adama, 19 February in Hawassa and on 21 February in Addis Ababa. In all the performances, the Eritrean cultural troupes will be joined by renowned Ethiopian singers and musicians. b

    Hi All; I just read the above piece of news and I can’t help but where is Tigray? This is getting ridicules. I had to fears about this all Eritrean issues. My worst fear was TPLF getting the upper hand and dislodge the government of Eritrea by force leaving Eritrea not only another Somalia but controlling ordering Eritrea by remote. That didn’t happen thanks for tenacity of the people of Eritrea and thanks for absolute doggedness of the government of Eritrea. So, thankfully that fear is gone. My second fear is for Eritrea to be implicated in Ethiopia’s internal afire. For the last 20 years, the Tigryans and Ethiopians benefited with everything opportunity that comes their way while Eritrea and Eritreans were sanctioned and suffocated by no war no peace. It sadness me if Eritrea has to be implicated in this Corrupted, Polluted, Degraded, and absolutely Besmirched situation in
    Ethiopia. Every day Eritrea is inching in to this mess. Now what does it mean to send cultural troupes to Bihir-Dar, Adama, AHawassa and Addis Abeba while omitting all to gather next door to you Tigray? The best interest for Eritrea is to stay away with this BS game. I know PIA will do everything to punish TPLF but this is dangerous. at the end of the day Eritreans must live with the people of next door, Tigray.

    • Kaddis

      Selam Nitricc –

      I always admire your committent to your nation and I feel your eagerness to see your country work. Just work. very admirable.Ethiopians don’t have that. It has to work for you first here. Very excessively.

      As many said here many times – except the social reconnection and petty businesses relieving the border people – dealing with a despot which you can not deal an inch of compromise and having no way make him responsible is not a deal.
      Its a sham.

      Don’t pay too much attention on these dramas; maybe find a way to inspire the youth.

      • Mez

        Good day Kaddis,

        1) What is your alternative?

        2) probably the previous no-war-no peace stagnation?

        3) What would be the yardstick to measure a certain peace process?

        Thanks

        • Kaddis

          Selam Mez,

          the alternative is to have a clear position, through consultation of all concerned ( the whole party, parliament etc..) and keep that position. Transparency.

          The yardstick to negotiation is the devise you insert as a guarantee, mechanism to punish one defaults etc…
          Isiaias don’t want to be accountable to anyone. Anyone!

  • AliSalim

    Selam All

    Good job YZ for an excellent read. I may not agree with your conclusions but I respect your efforts to make a well argued statement.

    With all respect to my friend SJ and the awate team for providing us this platform allow me to be blunt with one thing that I think has destroyed the website. Who is doing these silly, childish and obviously mean spirited kindergarten photoshop images?

    Someone probably thinks they are funny or skillful but if there’s anyone who laughs or rejoices I suggest they visit a psychiatrist.

    First: they violate awate’s own Mission statement and its posting policy simply because they offend and disgust some legitimate readers. I know what you will say.

    Second: the writer of the article makes such an effort to make a case and persuade readers. In between our artist comes, sticks a stupid image and hijacks the article and aborts the writer’s efforts. It has an aspect of intellectual dishonesty.

    You guys may not like what I said but someone needs to call things by the name. It may help.

    Respect again!

    • Nitricc

      Hi Ali; long time: I agree with you and I still refused to read despite Tsa-Tse’s advice. Trust me I care no more about PIA’s image. He has done his job and Eritrea’s notional security is intact. but to post that pic? I agree with AT

      They say a picture is worth a 1,000 words, in our case a 1,000,000 words

      I agree lol

      • AliSalim

        Hello and Thanks Nitricc

        I’m also not someone who cares how Isaias or anyone is depicted. For some reason I get annoyed and it makes the website look unprofessional and childish.

        I just don’t get the idea of how such images promote or enhance an article. I hope they take these are genuine feedback and reclaim awate back to the mature of our politics.

        • Paulos

          Ali Salim,

          Perhaps halo on his head instead?

    • Saleh Johar

      Ahlan Abu Elwa,

      Hope you have been doing fine. It’s good to know you are alive and beginning to kick 🙂
      I saw my name mentioned and it might look indecent not to respond.

      I am sure you do understand an editor’s right and a medium’s right. It’s common practice that images and titles are within the responsibilities of the editors (never mind others, we have aspirations and copy guidelines from big international publications).

      If you have a chance, look at these two magazines representing different styles, as an example: Charlie Hebdo and the Economist. Almost all their covers come with cartoons, illustrations, etc, that one cannot think they are childish or amateurish. I will leave that to you.

      Coming back to the recent image, what do you think is the objection? The little objection we get (over the years) is in defense of the image of Isaias–not a single objection to an image out of the many, many images that accompanied the articles. That is with one exception, You. I remember you strongly objected to me personally when your U-Turn article appeared with two faced-taxi in front of Cinema Impero. It seems you held that against awate.com (and myself) to this day. Now objectively speaking: don’t you think a two-faced car represents your article? Is it fair to underestimate that perfection 🙂 See, that is your old objection, you just got an opportunity to bring it up now that Nitric (only him) raised this issue! One more thing, please leave awate.com alone when you feel like attacking me, just do that for me, please. If you felt offended by the image, I apologize because that specific one is my work and there was no malice intended. If there was, I would have spat it out when I was getting all the dirt thrown at me thinking I was Ali Salim, and you couldn’t even come to help ameliorate the situation. I have to fight it alone, I am still fighting its residues to this day. No one came to my defense, not even you the culprit :-), except a few, mainly Saleh Younis. Forget about the past, let’s think about the future, it’s more pertinent. Next week we will explain how writers can provide their own images which have to be free from copyright infringement, the right resolution, and size, etc. However, editorial rights are not given away.

      • Blink

        Dear SG
        You are still Ali Salim to many and for that to change the owner of that name has to come to the sun in better views than the picture in this article, I mean with bigger horns and also better face . Even though I don’t understand why he is complaining about the picture of the sadistic guy I still think Ali wanted you to continue be Ali Salim , that’s what I can say . I personally agree with the picture while I have some objection to Yohannes article.

    • Yohannes Zerai

      Hi AliSalim,

      Welcome back to the Forum. Nice to have you back and I hope you are here for good! But if you must go, please do come in from time to time and share your thoughts and perspectives on issues with members of the Forum.

      In your comment, you stated that you may not agree with the conclusions of the article; yet, you have graciously acknowledged the effort that went into producing it. Not everyone is blessed with that kind of balanced view, rationality and fairness as is evidenced by some of the posts on the current thread.

      I thank you for the kind words, but more importantly for setting an example for civil behavior that I am sure those with a sense of self-respect will emulate. After all, it is said that “The way we treat others is a measure of our own self-respect.”

  • Mahmud Saleh

    Selam All

    Yohannes Zerai, a man of great expectations, I hope to see you writing what your sharp mind is collecting and analyzing. As I see it (I may be wrong)your major constraint is that you tend to fall into the habes qedes of the elite of the so-called opposition. i know you are a member of that habes qedes, but if you do a bit of an effort, i think you can free yourself (with due respect).
    1. you spent energy on weaving narrations that could potentially deprive the state of Eritrea of potential foreign investment, not able to see the difference between PFDJ and the state of Eritrea (in some of your previous articles)
    2. You held a pessimist position portraying Eritrea as if it is fading away (in one of your articles), an alarmist position may take you for a short distance. An alarmist is always like a sprinter. When the current agreements between the countries of the region take shape all these conspiracy theories will crumble. Go back and read your articles and see how wrong your assumptions of regime change were. I would like to see a man of your caliber let truth stick out, no matter how inconvenient it is for the current partisan political ambiance.
    3. and now you are playing the conspiracy theories some skillful propagandists set up.
    4. There is no agreement on “uniting” the region as you appear to be alluding to. There is the talk of regional cooperation that will lead to economic integration of the region. And to that effect, there are broad agreements that clearly emphasize the independent status of each country. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT? Most Eritreans have chosen to engage the government than supporting a ghost political opposition. What is wrong with that?
    I repeated many times that a peaceful and prosperous Ethiopia, an Ethiopia that respects the sovereign rights of Eritrea is a blessing to the region. And there is nothing official that indicates Ethiopia is in a trajectory to violate the independence of Eritrea, Nothing, except the gaffs of an Ethiopian PM who is trying to hold together a country that is reemerging from the depths of crises and transforming from the divisive policies the TPLF had planted into a united country.
    I feel very comfortable for the prospects of both peoples, and I hope to see the border crossings of the region demolished where Ethiopians, Eritreans, Sudanese, Djiboutians, Somalis and others cross borders freely and trade, and where citizens of each country consider the other country as their second home. The next frontier should be about delivering economic results for the people of the region. What is wrong with that?
    5. For some time to come, the epicenter of fear mongering will be Mekele. I hope to see Mekele overcome its self-imposed siege mentality and join the peoples of the region.
    6. I hate to see brilliant Eritreans repeating what the elite class in Mekele is saying and how it is framing things.

    • Hameed Al-Arabi

      Hi Mahmud Saleh,

      Could you tell me where is your exact address in all this hashwiye or you are a deaf in a ceremony?

      Al-Arabi

    • Yohannes Zerai

      Dear MS,

      Well done, Mahmuday! You have lived up to the highest standards of insinuation, distortion, exaggeration, flip-flopping and pontification that are the hallmarks of the political creed you claim to belong.

      Any additional response to your comment at this time would be nothing but superfluous and, of course, simply an abuse of time on my part.

      Thank you

    • Awash Lemma

      Dear Mahmud

      Now, see what you have done! AZ has reacted as if he is physically slapped (see his response below). He tried to insult you and slammed the door in anger. What else can he say / do? At times the truth hurts. Your objective and measured reply exposed the pompous, spurious, and in most parts ridiculous ‘analysis’ point by point. I’d started writing a similar response but abandoned it as your comments dealt with the issues superbly.

      Keep it up and well done

      • Amanuel

        Hi Awash Lemma,
        Do you know the name of the person MS is using as avatar? His name is Abdulkadir Mohammed Saleh Kebire, is commonly known as ‘Kebire’ the father of Eritrean martyrs against Ethiopian aggression. He was killed 1949 by the Andnet party supported and funded by the Ethiopian king. It is sad to see it used by someone who is advocating and making excuses on behalf of a current Ethiopian leader. It is also not surprising you are applauding him.

        • Awash Lemma

          Hi Aman
          With all respect, may I ask, what does the nick name one uses to do with the current debate? We are expressing our views, and it would be great if you had added to the debate by responding to the key points raised.
          Excuse my ignorance, but I do not know who AMSK is. But, being an objective, principled fighter (many are) my guess is that if AMSK were alive today he would have supported MS’s right to criticise and probably supported his respectful, civil and clear views. I guess he would not try to wrongly ‘shame’ MS as you have tried to do. You divert the debate to something else; nothing to do with key points of YZ’s essay or MS’ (and my) response (and many others’ before us).
          YZ tried to ‘analyse’ contemporary leadership and political developments of the horn of Africa countries and some Middle Eastern Arab countries. There were several people who criticised YZ’s analysis, and MS in particular raised 6 different points for his comments. So, of all the issues raised how come you reduce the critics’ views to “… advocating and making excuses on behalf of a current Ethiopian leader”? It says more about your way of thinking than anything else. Bizzar, sad, and scary!

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Dear Awash
            It such that the land of cyberspace is full of cowards who could not even come forth using their full name or voluntarily reveal their identity. Here is this man who has the temerity to label me as an advocate for “Andnet” something he would never say if he met me in a cafe. I don’t respond to his wild, and most time outright lies responses. Normally I don’t throw these types of “insults” but at times I am compelled to respond in kind. Very dishonest people, indeed. I will challenge him to produce any material worth of reading in which he challenged the PM of Ethiopia’s occasional unwarranted insinuations that blur the sovereign status of Eritrea. I will produce several of my rebuttal to the PM and other folks who aired statements that appear to violate Eritrea’s sovereign status. So often, this individual failed to backup his wild accusations and I’m tired of him.
            Speaking of the author of this article, I certainly respect his right to form an opinion and present it in any shape he wishes.I also know I have the right to opine on a piece made public. I talked about his works, not his person, but he chose to talk about his feelings towards me. That is where he is clearly exposed. And I did not need to reply to his response because he did all the job for me, as you put it succinctly.
            There are two manifestations of defeats that I discern from this group, a group that saw the TPLF as their only way to power. Never mind about their nonsense talk of justice and democracy. You can give on what you have.
            The first act of defeat is to fight back to justify their previous symbiotic relationship with the Wayane (TPLF). To do that they have to bash the relationship of the two countries that put an end to TPLF’s dominance in Ethiopia.
            The second act is to fan fear among Eritreans by distorting and/or exaggerating incidents, gaffs, or activities. The current slogan is: Amara is coming to swallow you alive. Ihave underlined the fact in several articles and other audio-video releases, im my FB account, in interviews, and a pal talk session that the Amara people are as peace-loving as any other people on planet Earth. The few Amara elites who appear to be trying to seize on the moment to reclaim lost glories do not represent the Amara people. We Eritreans have always emphasized that our enemies were the authorities and not the people of Ethiopia. That’s why when TPLF ruled Ethiopia we still placed the blame on TPLF authorities and not on the people of Tigray.
            Come to the article of YZ and you will see it is a patched up piece whose components had been discussed here and elsewhere in almost real time basis. But look how he twisted it to “unity”. There is nothing in the agreements (Eritrea, Ethiopia and Somalia- bilateral or regional agreements) that indicate the leaders were onto uniting the region politically. On the contrary the agreements emphasize the independent status of each country; it further underlines the demarcation the border as per the EEBC ruling (article 4 of the Jedah declaration). The rest are innuendos and chatters of coffee and cyber cafes. Nothing new.
            Pick up Tigraionline and you will read similar framing of the peace development.

          • Hashela

            Dear Mahmud

            I had the highest respect for your efforts to defend our history and achievements against relentless assaults by TPLF cadres like Hayat et al.

            Now by calling the repeated and well-coordinated assaults by PIA and PM AAA on our sovereignty and pride as a national as distorted and exaggerated “incidents, gaffs, or activities”, you are trivializing and playing down the wounds that PIA and PM AAA are inflecting on us. For many Eritreans, the Medemer of PM AAA sounds pretty much like the Andnet of Haile Selassie for whom the PM AAA administration is about to erect a statue.

            Disgusted and humiliated by the Italian colonialists and doubting Eritrea’s future as a sovereignty nation, many Eritreans joined the Andnet movement of the 50s and 60s. Similarly, it seems that our humiliation by and our justified disgust for TPLF coupled with the destitution caused PFDJ is making some Eritreans susceptible
            for the Medemer call. I believe it is the duty of very patriotic Eritrean to unveil the true nature of Medemer that is revealing by itself.

            It is possible to establish a peaceful co-existence and a mutually beneficial ,economic cooperation between Ethiopia and Eritrea without the latter compromising its sovereignty and territorial integrity.

            respectfully

          • Haile S.

            Selam Hashela,

            I applaud you on this astute observation of yours “Disgusted and humiliated by the Italian colonialists and doubting Eritrea’s future as a sovereign nation, many Eritreans joined the Andnet movement of the 50s and 60s. Similarly, it seems that our humiliation by and our justified disgust for TPLF coupled with the destitution caused by PFDJ is making some Eritreans susceptible”.
            Let me add another layer of question I was jotting to Mahmoud. ERITREA and Somalia have been at the center, at the heart, of Melles’s/EPRDF’s foreign policy for the last 20 years. Now, in a similar manner, Eritrea’s foreign policy looks also concentrated on TPLF and this is reflected by the debates here, constantly tilting to it even when the subject of a comment had no direct relationship. How do we get out of this gluey tarmac in order to concentrate on the essential?
            Hashela, with such clever observation, I hope Mahmoud is not going to ask for your CV too 🙂 :-).

          • Hashela

            Selam Haile
            our language is rich in precise and insightful expressions:
            ብዘበነ ወያነ ዝጸመመ ወያነ እንዳበለ ሞተ።

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Selam Hashela
            Thank you, and the respect is mutual. I too read your inputs.
            1. Dr. Abiy Ahmed and the rest of Ethiopians must behave respectfully towards our sovereignty. I have refuted and rebutted their insinuations. And what I know is that Eritrea is an independent country for the last 25 years (after the 1993 referendum and the subsequent declaration of independence). I call upon you to check out those efforts I made and make a judgment.
            2. I truly believe Dr.Abiy does not mean an ill-intent towards Eritrea, but he is dancing to a populist tune, but he needs to be reminded of Eritreans’ feelings (Eritreans 101 type of syllabus).
            3. All that he is saying such as working together or coming together, or his talk about the railway, navy— would not be controversial had Ethiopia sealed the deal of the border and both countries entered into mutual multilateral cooperation.
            4. The other equation of the problem is that the Eritrean government is not talking much about these incidents and the implications and applications of the agreements. I don’t know if people are talking to the PM behind doors. I have been hammering the issue of transparency and engaging the public by the government all along. This is not to boast but I have to say it to challenges folks who try to attack me on this front (not you). I have been underlying and emphasizing the last thought you summarized in your last paragraph.
            5. I truly believe TPLF is putting hurdles to block the implementation of the EEBC verdict. While the PM is speaking of remote possibilities, i.e., that is if we are to take him literally, it is the TPLF that is dragging its feet not to accept and implement the APA &EEBC verdict. In that case, it is not surprising to see individuals and groups that had placed all their eggs in TPLF basket to cry foul.
            6. I thank the PM for his bold initiatives, and as I said before, we are watching to deliver on his signed agreement to demarcate the border.
            7. I trust our people inside the country and their defense forces more than the loud mouthing diaspora political activists.
            8. Generally, I feel comfortable, I believe things are moving in the right direction for the region.

            Thank you for the engagement.

          • Hashela

            Selam Mahumd

            Assuming that Abiye is not harboring ill intentions against the State of Eritrea (an assumption not shared by many), it seems that two circumstances make the peace effort fragile and any agreement short-lived.

            1) An Ethiopian prime minister who has no control of disruptive and powerful elements in his country. As a consequence, the Prime Minister can not enforce a bilateral agreement that he accepted and signed.

            2) An Eritrean president who seems not to represent and defend the sovereignty and national interest of his country. A president has only contempt for his people, who is intransparent, and does not consult with key institutions. As a result, any unfair agreement will be null and void once a legitimate government is established.

            The outsized power that TPLF enjoyed is reduced to the size that is commensurate to the population and Killil they represent. Tigrayans feel cornered and threatened. TPLF is a powerful, respected and accepted front/organization in Tigray. The border conflict we want to solve on the ground runs between Eritrea and Tigrai. TPLF does not pose a danger to Eritrea. For its economic prosperity, Tigrai needs an access to our ports. So Eritrea has a powerful leverage.

            Based on the above observations, the Eritrean leadership has to resist his basic instinct of revenge and humiliation and give TPLF the face-saving stage that it urgently needs. In other words, noting that there is nothing to negotiate, TPLF should be part of the border negotiation team. PIA should visit Tigrai and invite Debrestion to come to Massawa. Sea water has an amazing relaxing effect; PIA and Debrestion should take a bath/swim in the Read Sea for all to see!!

            Will this gesture soften TPLF’s stance on the implementation of the EEBC verdict? Most likely NOT. But it sends an important signal to Tigrayans who form the base of TPLF and who currently feel cornered and threatened.

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Selam Hashela
            Good points and I don’t find significant differences in the way and scope both of us assess things. Coming to some of the points you made (for the sake of elaboration):
            A: A populist Ethiopian PM who does not seem to have control over the wide ranges of Federal responsibilities including exercising his power over the Tigray region and the defense establishment; a PM who appears to be weak to implement what he had signed, etc.
            B: The siege mentality reigning on the Tgrayan elite (real or perceived) and its impact over the peace agreement and rapprochement of the two countries; in short the tension between Tigray and the Federal government (there are other periphery-periphery and periphery-federal tensions, but the Tigray-federal tensions affect us more than the other intra-Ethiopian conflicts and wranglings)
            C: the relationship between PFDJ/TPLF
            D: Tigray needs access to the sea and Eritrea has a leverage
            E/ TPLF does not pose a danger to Eritrea
            F: TPLF should be part of the border negotiation team
            G: IA needs to go to Tigray, and Dr. Debrexion needs to come to feel the breeze of the sea…
            ———————–
            I agree with all (and I have addressed them previously in different forums and formats; I don’t want to kill your time) except ‘E’ and that is because as long as TPLF does not feel comfortable within Ethiopia proper, it will try to extend its limits to the north. It has done it. We know that for a fact. It has shown its restive nature time and again, from its 1976 Manifesto that incorporated large swaths of Eritrean territories to its region, to the 1997 map of Great Tigray that evicted Eritrean farmers from their villages to its efforts of introducing ethnic ideology and the nurturing and the grooming of ethnic groups that made their point of departure “the right of self-determination up and including the right to secede.” So let us not be naive.
            having said that, I made the point in my early articles right after the peace agreement was signed that there would not be a lasting peace unless both organizations (PFDJ and TPLF) made peace and unless the people of Tigray and their Eritrean counterparts made peace. I don’t see a problem with the people of the two countries, hence, the problem is within the political establishments. I actually, called for the Eritrean president to offer publicly his willingness to address the regional parliament of Tigray. What I know is TPLF made this extremely difficult by releasing communique after communique that it had not moved an inch in its stand to abide by the EEBC verdict. In fact, it has been embarked on activities to undermine it, and undermine the efforts of the PM who publicly announced Ethiopia had accepted the unconditional implementation of the border ruling. So, why are we ignoring this fact?
            What I don’t know is if there are behind the door communications. I hope there are. In the end, my opinion towards the TPLF will be guided by how genuinely it acts to implement the border ruling.

          • Hashela

            Selam Mahmud

            ኣመል ምስ መግነዝ (TPLF) plus ተመን ድርኤ ብልሕጺ ተዳህለ (Eritrea)= paralysis? Where do we go from here?

            I watched two interviews by the same person, a relatively young TPLF cadre and politcal science professor in Mekelle. The first interview was made about 7-9 months ago and he said if Shaebia does want to negotiate, Ethiopia should marsh to Asmera and enforce a regime change. The second interview was made 2-3 weeks ago. There, he made two interesting statements. He said that there are old TPLF members who are a hurdle for changes. He further stated that for the sake of peace and brotherhood, Tigrai should be ready to hand over Badme. I am not putting too much weight on the statement of a single TPLF cadre. Given his prominent role, I take his statement as an indication for a necent and gradual attitude change in Tigray and among young TPLF cadres. Given its power loss at the national level, the heat it is feeling from the south and Tigrai’s dependence on Eritrean ports, TPLF knows that its stance on the border issue is not sustainable. Compare to PFDJ, I assume that TPLF is much more adaptive and flexible.

          • Mahmud Saleh

            MerHaba Hashela
            You wrote, “ኣመል ምስ መግነዝ (TPLF) plus ተመን ድርኤ ብልሕጺ ተዳህለ (Eritrea)= paralysis? Where do we go from here?”
            Firstly, it is not a habit to criticize the TPLF; I’m criticizing it for strategies and policies it has been following which are real threats to Eritrea’s very existence. Our domestic issue is domestic and should not be mixed with an international issue, mainly our relationship with neighboring countries. I reject the trivializing of critiques of TPLF’s belligerence.
            You asked, “where do we go from here?” Well, the easy and right course is to call on the TPLF to do the right thing. I don’t see why ti should be appeased more than it deserves. I don’t know why you put the burden on Eritrea?

          • Hashela

            Hi Mahmud

            I think you misunderstood my points.
            I believe TPLF is an evil organization and has evil intentions. Period!
            We paid a heavy prize and learned our lesson to be always vigilant. We can’t wish them away. They are there and will remain there for a long time to come. They are our immediate neighbor.
            Our demand is legitimate and we have no reason to comprmise and reward TPLF. We have a powerful leverage and we should make use of it. We have to learn to talk with our enemy and tell him directly that our case strong, we are in a strong position with the mean to peacefully enforce our demand.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Hi Mahmoud Saleh,

            The guy who labeled you an advocate of “Andinet” has made a great mistake. You are an advocate of none; you are just a political pander, as simple as that. I hope you are not bored now; you have the spirit to continue.

            Al-Arabi

          • Awash Lemma

            Dear Mahmud

            Another compelling post. You invite our friends for a dialogue over coffee? One has already refused any dialogue, probably has not recovered from his anger. Or, maybe he is quietly working on a response to your 6 points. If it is the later, great. The second one probably will accept your invitation but first he has to concoct a line of argument that he thinks would give him a ‘quick victory’ (expect a diversion!). The coffee will be great, but not the dialogue, I’m afraid. Instead, you should have invited me! (ha! Ha! joking).
            On a more serious note, it has been a privilege to have exchanged views with you. It is getting really rare these days to find people like you with such strong conviction, honesty, intellect and power of observation.
            It saddens me to see in this noisy internet market some people stuck in their old views day in day out, year in year out, consumed by differences, always ‘them and us’ (or rather them vs us). But the world arourd us is changing, the region around is changing. Changing so fast that forcing thinking people to review, reflect, and inevitably change their long held outdated ideas, and biases. It seems to me that some of us have closed our eyes and minds. From the comfort of where they live and the safety of cyber space they fan the flame of yet another conflict. Haven’t the peoples of the region suffered enough?
            For the first time in decades peoples of the region are witnessing a ray hope, a message of peace and cooperation. Shouldn’t we seize the opportunity and try to build on it? True, the change is in its baby steps but with the help of all well-meaning people it may soon come to fruition. The incorrigible optimist that I am I see the ray of hope flickering at the moment growing into a full, bright bloom!

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Selam Awash
            Thank you for the kind words, and keep being optimistic and engaging. I have nothing to add to your assessment and wish that you framed eloquently in your last paragraph. The region needs fresh air of peace and cooperation. Of course, we have to be watchful. The steps the leaders of the countries of the region take must be based on a sound ground lest not be causes of destructive conflicts down the road. As of now, I think we are moving in the right direction. In Ethiopian proper, it was not easy for the Ethiopian PM to rock the base of the reigning political culture and attitudes the TPLF had built through the years. In his initiative to break the stalemate that ruled the relationship between Eritrea and Ethiopia, I have mostly a favorable opinion about him. The rest of the occasional statements coming from him that appear to blur the independent status of the countries could be contained. I have no doubt things will get clearer as the countries enter the phase of implementing the agreements.
            Regards.

          • Awash Lemma

            Thanks, Mahmud. I’m with you, and share the hopes and concerns you mentioned. Ofcourse, opportunities come with risks and that is true in issues we discussed. At the moment, it appears the eyes of the whole world is watching us / the region/ the leaders. Let’s hope our respective leaders and other stake holders will demonstrate they have the courage and the wisdom to act hnourably

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Hi Awash Lemma,

            I know you are hooked on raw meat and admirer of theirs tales. A free invaluable endowment from a mafia guy makes a robber guy happy.

            Al-Arabi

          • Awash Lemma

            Hi Hameed
            Once nonsense, nonsense for ever!!! Hope you will change one day, though I don’t think it will be soon. I said I’m an incorrigible optimist!

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Hi Awash Lemma,

            A cadger is always a cadger. For a piece of bread dies for the interests of others. Ethiopia is a country formed by force from different parts that do not have any relation among them. The majority of peoples that constitute Ethiopia were trodden by the Amara and Tigray. Now time has changed and all the enslaved peoples are questing their freedom from those hyenas. The Oromos, Somalians, Afars and Southern peoples of Ethiopia will never allow again to be enslaved. They will fight back and curb the raw meat eaters. No common ground that ties the peoples of the country called Ethiopia together. The only history and relation they have is of a master and slave. Such kind of of unhealthy relation doesn’t make a prosperous and peaceful country. The fragmentation of Ethiopia is stark reality, just give it time and it will be a fact that all could see.

            Al-Arabi

          • Awash Lemma

            Hi Hamid
            Dream, baby dream! That is the story told by enemies of the country not just for decades, but centuries. Nothing more than a wishful thinking. Your views are soooooo old and outdated.
            TPLFites have been boasting they have put in place a strategy that would immerse the country in a never-ending civil war, which may not be solved in 100 years. Alas, though they have been building the foundation for this for the last 40 years, it couldn’t last even for 100 days! It crumbled in no time.
            You need some therapy to get rid of the deep hatred you harbour. As I said before, I’m an incorrigible optimist and I believe you will come to your senses.

      • Hameed Al-Arabi

        Hi Awash Lemma,

        Good job of encouragement, Lemma. This is the work of experienced Stone Age masters.

        Al-Arabi

  • Teodros Alem

    selam yohannes z
    It is amazing how u guys r slow, i mean, while u still talk about an old issues, a new eritrea delegation is about to visit ethiopia in a coming few days .
    The new eritrea people to people delegation will include musicians and will visit bahir dar, adama, awassa and addis, excluding tigrai.
    and there is also a rumor that eritrean people to people delegation will take part on Emperor Hileselase statue inaugural in addis and the eritrean musicians will perform on the event.

    • Haile WM

      hello Teodros Alem,

      so you really think wedi Tukul and his comrades will sing at the Hailesilasie statue inaugural in Addis? remember what we did to Hailesilasie’s statue back in the day in massawa right after Fenkil operation… be careful there… Accientally it’s anniversary is in these days… I think you are the one slow here Tedy boy

      • Teodros Alem

        Selam haile wm
        U r sad and mad as hell because woyane buried alive, u can do nothing to save woyane, it’s over, all u can do is, accept the reality and save urself from sadness and stroke.
        If the peace process between eri and ethio goes the way it’s, there is a big chance for helen meles to sing teddy afro’s jah yasteseryal in the middle of asmara(hamberti asmara) and make more money and more famous.

        • Haile WM

          Hey Tedros,

          Yeah i think you really are slow. the world is not a binary one as you, a simpleton, might think.

          Woyane can die peacefully as far as i am concerned.
          Guess what ? woyane are not an eritrean organization, I could care less about them.
          on the other hand Helen Melles singing tedyafro song might like it, i would worry if Tedy Afro sings Helen’s “Warsay izom sebat menyom menye” in Awassa 🙂 🙂

          • Teodros Alem

            selam haile wm
            there is no problem if teddy afro sings helen’s “warsay” song in awassa, as long as he sing it in tigragn, that will make him, what ever will make him.
            u r really sad and mad because woyane is buried alive, because u r narrow and so slow tribalist.

          • Haile WM

            C’mon Teddy,

            you can’t possibly repeat the same phrase again and again and not appearing stupid and slow. re-read my answer on the woyane issue.. you are slow and slumber.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam haile wm
            u all never admit that u r woyanes,
            U know the saying, swim like a duck, walk like a duck ? U guys r that.
            u guys r nothing but a bragging malnutrition looking coms.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hailat-WM,

            I can’t believe they are erecting a statue of HS, the feudal king. This is a retrogress and not a progress. Is this reformism in an attempt to preempt our sovereignty? Wow, Eritreans are clapping with them. Who is next in the queue to be rewarded with a statue? Could he be Mengstu? So the Eritrean musicians will join in the celebration of HS statue, our butcher? What a historical irony! the Eritrean nationalist become unionist and are taking us back to square one.

            This is another betrayal in front of our eyes, similar to the conspiration against the Eritrean Federal Government, in 1961, that propelled to launch an armed struggle, by the lowlanders.

          • Teodros Alem

            selam aman h
            Erecting a statue of HS or mengistu or meles is not ur business, is not eritrea business.

          • Ato

            Ato Hidrat … ሰላም ብንስኻትኩም ይኹን::

            Seriously? The statue of King Haile Seliase has nothing to do with you or with your country. Stop trying to dictate Ethiopia and Ethiopians what to do – it doesn’t look good on you. We Ethiopians are opening our eyes and recognising the good, the bad and the ugly part of our history – that is a huge leap, a “PROGRESS” and a sign of growing up. It is not a sign of weakness to celebrate one’s positive contribution, rather, it helps a country to heal. My humble suggestion to you is to take the past as a learning curve – avoid dwelling on it.

            BTW, the former derge soldiers have just launched an association and they are demanding the current government for a formal recognition. I am delighted to hear that & witness freedom of association shining in beloved country.
            At Hidrat, hope that will not offend you !!

            ሃገረይ ምኽባር : so that I respect yours.

          • Paulos

            Selam Ato ________,

            A couple of issues. I don’t think it is a wise move to erect a statue of the King when ethnic based sensitivity is pervasive and high across the country.

            You said, former Drgue members are demanding to be recognized. I am just curious, what is it that they want to be recognized for? For causing unbelievabl misery on the people? Well, if that is the case, they should be rest assured for history has already recognized them as such.

          • Teodros Alem

            selam paulos
            u just keep cleaning Mussolini soldiers graveyard, nobody give a damn about it and let the ethnic speaks for themselves, they r way smarter than u.
            If ur concern is HS victims, it has been almost 28 years since eritrea became a country but eritreans refugees because of HS action r still in sudan so if u guys r genuine u should focus on these refugees instead of interfering in other countries business.
            Don’t be a Catholic morethan the pope, it doesn’t look genuine.

          • Selam Amanuel Hidrat,

            MZ, who unashamedly fought tooth and nail so that the statue of HSI was not erected at his own capital city and in the same organization in which HS played the major role for its existence, while he (mz) allowed others to have their statues, wanted to erase ethiopian history, because he believed that it was an amhara history. In his mind ethiopia never existed; maybe to be trampled upon, ruled under authoritarianism and looted to her bones. He wanted to rewrite ethiopian history by making her history.

            He got what he gave, and today his name and his picture are nowhere to be seen in ethiopia, the nauseating “ታላቁ መርያችን” nowhere to be heard, and ethiopia is dismantling the tplf coercive state and rebuilding ethiopia as she should be, inclusive and every ethiopian’s home, to the disappointment of those who wanted to see her disintegrated and erased from the map of africa. Hate and meanness is being dismantled and ethiopia with the rest of the peoples of the horn are rising by the day, while her enemies are left with a sour taste in their mouth due to frustration and hopelessness. Ethiopia is too precious for the big majority of Ethiopians, if we leave out the few, to be discarded so easily as her enemies would have liked. That is what we see today, and some people better learn to live with this fact.

            You should know that HSI statue has nothing to do with Eritrea’s sovereignty, and it is not going to be erected in godana harnet in asmara, for you to be so vehemently against it. No wonder it is your reflex reaction to demean and demonize everything ethiopian, even if it is a statue, a song, whatever.

            Eritreans are dumping the ego and meanness of their elites and they are ready to leave behind the unfortunate past with which they were burdened, from which they drew no dividend, but misfortune and sacrifice. Wake up and smell the coffee, the past modus operandi is not working anymore. People are coming together for their mutual benefit.

            The eritrean people are tasting freedom and seeing the hopeful horizon in front of them. Try to take this hopeful moment from them, this time over, they will fight tooth and nail, and they wouldn’t want to be losers for the second time. Many things are going to happen in the future which tplf foot soldiers will find difficult to believe. This is what happens when one uses the people for their ego and power dreams and give back nothing to the people, but accolades that do not change their lives. Words are cheap, and especially when one does not have to be accused for what he/she says, it is still cheaper. Fortunately, at last people will open their eyes and ears, and they will know the truth.

            If you think what is happening today between the two people is betrayal, unfortunately, up to now eritreans have seen nothing else but betrayal from all directions, enemies and purportedly friends alike. This time over it maybe different, and there could be a positive outcome for the people of Eritrea. No one knows. The only thing they will lose is the three decades old misery, odyssey and hopelessness, and nothing more.

            Let them breathe at last, wherever the oxygen may come from, as long as you are not providing it yourself, nor your tplf for whom you fight so much, eased their burden. On the contrary, what we see in Eritrea is what tplf planned for it, and not only the result of the actions of dia/pfdj.

            What did eritrea and ethiopia see over the last three decades? Only abuse, betrayal and uncertainty about the future. Ethiopians were lucky enough to get rid of their tormentors, while unfortunately, eritreans have nowhere to turn to. Now, they see a flicker of light and you are ready to extinguish it.

            Unfortunately, you continue to prescribe a failed and expired medicine for the eritrean society, and they are not going to repeat the same mistake by taking it for granted. If you try to launch again an armed struggle as in the past, you better know that eritreans are no more as gullible as in the past to follow you so easily and you will be alone. This is the 21st century, can you come up with a better solution with no bloodshed and misery, that takes the eritrean people to a hopeful future? If so, do it. Blocking their way is not equivalent to taking them to el dorado or any mythical land. They went, they saw, and they are not looking anymore at things in the black and white spectrum only. Let us hope the elites will follow their footsteps for a change, because up to now the elites (the toxic fraction) have taken them nowhere, to say the least. Some elites are ready to demean and demonize the ethiopian leader, while they themselves are incapable of leading, as seen over the last two or so decades.

          • Haile WM

            Selamat Emma,

            the sad part of it is eritrean cultural bands are said to be performing on the inauguration. Our former butcher is being celebrated for the cheap political achievements of PFDJ, what a shame on all of us eritreans would be.

      • Hashela

        Haile WM

        Remember, when Abiye visited Asmera, PFDJ
        organized young people and made them chant “ተደሚርና ኢና”. PFDJ has no shame and doesn’t care about history. So be prepared for the worst

        • Haile WM

          Hello Hashela (what a beautiful village BTW)

          the question is, are we are going to own our history and values as eritrrweans, or will we be dragged in this shameless revisionism by PFDJ and the ethio dreamers ?

          • Hashela

            Haile WM

            oh, you know my beloved village!!
            I can’t describe the pain and shame I felt when I saw and heard the chant “ተደሚርና ኢና” in Godena Harnet.

            ኣጋ ወጋሕታ ድቕድቕ’ዩ ጸልማት!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Hi Hashela,

            It is real, nothing is fake as to the intention of the two leaders. I will tell to the author of the song “
            ኣጋ ወጋሕታ ድቕድቕ’ዩ ጸልማት!” to recite it at radio assenna.

          • Teodros Alem

            selam haile wm
            dream what? Owning eritrea history and values r eritreans issue, nothing to do with ethiopa.
            what an idoi”.

  • Blink

    Dear Readers
    Here comes again , the guy is too late infact not important to do anything from any direction. No one can really worry or even care to read such after party shoutings. The train is moving fast and it will reach its destination wether people like the writer accept it or not . The problem of such people is in their big messy head failure to know the reality on the ground. The opposition do not represent the Eritrean public and they suffer from a deep mistrust issue and also greed of power by any means unless how can PFDJ survive this? The opposition has been declared dead from a nationalistic point of view and they will take a big time in creating a nationalist ideology from scratch as most were hanging with old weyane Ethinic federalists mind set . Creating an Afar state , getting power by affirmative action and all are dead .

    The Eritrean people has been hearing and listening the opposition leadership say many things and now crying a corocodile cry will not dent Eritreans. The opposition be it Bayto ( a lost one ) , a group of talkativees who happens to be as failures in Chief politics. We shouldn’t really try to create an illusion of old repeated words.

    • Amanuel

      Hi Blink,
      Bushing the opposition is not going to help the Eritrean people. Please come up with alternative solution.

  • Amanuel

    Hi FM
    I have seen the article and doesn’t say much about the Eritrean side except the usual twit. Had any one presented it to the Eritrean cabinet of minsters? The only body seem to meet occasionally. Or the Ethiopians will dictate and pass it to the Eritreans for implementation?

  • FishMilk

    Hi All. Four Eritreans lead the Tour De L’espoir. Go team Eritrea!
    1. Natnael Mebrahtom 02 HOURS 33 MINUTES 53
    2. Yakob Debesay 02H 33M 55 SECONDS
    3. Daniel Habtemichael 02H 33′ 56 SECONDS
    4. Filipos Kibreab 02H 33′ 56 SECONDS

    • Brhan

      Hello FishMilk,
      News are news. There has been news reported by awate.com. I do not see you comment: An Eritrean jailed without a trial and died in a jail!.

  • FishMilk

    Hi All. The TPLF these days can be heard crying -If I wouldn’t have bad luck, then I’d have no luck at all- as another top TPLF member (Zadig Abraha) has tendered his resignation. Zadig has blasted the TPLF for not leading, but rather opposing, democratic processes. The Ethiopian Observer put out an article on Zadig’s resignation on Feb 5th titled ‘Zadig Abraha delivers scathing review of TPLF after submitting resignation’.

    • Amanuel

      Hi FM
      You seem very obsessed with TPLF and if you are close to IA (I suspect you are the propaganda minister) I have a message. Tell him to leave TPLF where they are parked, believe me they will be very useful when Abiy and the medemer group start to change their colours. Tell him not to repeat the mistake he made with OLF during the early 90s. DON’T PUT YOUR EGGS IN ONE BASKET.

      • Consolation

        Hello,

        Your views are hilarious. You ought not to have placed all your eggs with the Weyane thugs. Now you have no one to give you the hope! But why are you so defensive about the t hugs> Are you one of them?

      • Hashela

        Selam Amanuel

        “…. ከምዚ እቀዲሙ ዝተጠቅሰ እንተድኣ ምሕንጋድ ናይ ወያነ ሃልዩን ከምኡውን ዝኣረገ ናይ እምሓራን ካልኦት ትምክሕተኛታት ኢትዮጵያውያን ምትኹታኽ ሃልዩ፡ ሃገራዊ ድሕነትና ንምርግጋጽ ክልተ ግዜ ክንሓስበሉ እንተዘይኮይና ብተብተብ ናብ ንቡር ይመለስ ዝብሃል ኣይኮነን። እዚ ስግኣታት ከየኸተመ ቅዋም’ዶ ሃገራዊ ኣገልግሎት ምባል ንሃገርና ናብ ሓደጋ ምስጣሕ ምኻኑ ክንግንዘብ ይግባእ።”

        This above statement is posted in meskerem by a PFDJ cadre (pen name: ግርማይ የማነ). I highlighted parts of the statement that I consider to be very telling. It seems that the awakening of the old Ethiopian demons from their brief dormancy will be used to delay the much needed reforms in Eritrea. Needless to state that the resurfacing and revival of the said groups is actively nurtured by PIA (we are one people, no border needed, you lead us).

        • Paulos

          Selam Hashela,

          In the early years of the 1920s, when the campaign to establish a Jewish state was in its earliest stage, an elderly Palestinian is said to have said, “The bride is beautiful but she is already married.” The Amhara wannabe “Irredentists” [I know the wording is misplaced but hope you got my drift] may say this and that but they sure know that, the beautiful bride is already taken or married.

          That said however, there is something interesting with in the cluttered commotion—they are saying that, simply because, the political system gives them the right to speak freely. And as Voltaire famously said it, “I do not agree with what you say but I will defend to death for your right to say it.” And of course, wish Voltaire* could speak to us Eritreans.

          *Have plans to comment on Philosophy this coming weekend hopefully in a fun way starting from Voltaire to Emmanuel Kant.

          • Hashela

            Hi Paulos

            ትመርዖ ኣይትመርዖ፡ ቅጭን ደላያኣ ብዙሕ’ዩ። ብዝያዳ መርዓዊ ዕድሚኡ ዝደፍኤ እቲ ዓርኪ-ርእሲ ክኣ ኣብ ሸዊት ዕድሚኡ ስለ ዘሎን ካብ ንቡር ንላዕሊ ናይ “ምትሕግጋዝ” ህንጠያ ስለ ዝርኢ ዘሎ፡ ስድራ-ቤት ክጥንቀቑ ኣሎዎም!

            Like the overwhelming majority, I think the expansionists don’t pose an immediate danger to the state of Eritrea. They can be an ephimeral phenomanon that will dissipate soon. But they can also represent the peak of an iceberg. So it is worth keep them under a close observation.

            The more concernig conclusion one can draw from the spinning by PFDJ cadres like “ግርማይ የማነ” is that it can be used to stall the much needed reforms.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Ahlan Dr. Paulos,

            “I do not agree with what you say but I will defend to death for your right to say it.” Votaire said it in a context where democracy, rights, the rule of law and justice are served to all. Are these values served to all in our context? The answer is no, because none of these values exist in Eritrea. Voltaire maxim doesn’t work in Eritrea, It only works in democratic and civilized nations where people enjoy their full rights. The issue in Eritrea is between a mafia group and victims where justice should be served, not defending a mafia group to death (like some goons) to continue abusing innocents.

            Al-Arabi

          • Paulos

            Selam Al-Arabi,

            Good point. I agree.

    • Brhan

      Hello FishMilk
      There has been news reported by awate.com. I do not see you comment: An Eritrean jailed without a trial and died in a jail!.

    • Blink

      Dear FM
      We know the Sibhat and Tsehaye are freaking out about the peace process and we all know who is freaking out with them.

    • Brhan

      Hi FishMilk
      How about Eritrean prisoners…FishMilk or you are not allowed to swim there?

      • FishMilk

        Hi Brhan. I refer you to my comment that I made to Mez 8 days ago: ‘Hi Mez. Foremost, PIA needs to release political and religious prisoners. It is incredibly sad that nothing is moving forward in this regard. This matter is boiling in Asmara these days.’

  • FishMilk

    Hi All. The Nobel Prize Committee has received PM Abiy’s nomination to be considered as its laureate for this year!

    • Paulos

      FM,

      I didn’t know you moonlight as a stand-up comedian.

    • Haile S.

      Selam FishMilk,
      Had IA done the right thing to his country men and women as soon as the peace agreement with Ethiopia started, Awate forumers would have nominated him for that prize. Nominating is a way of recognizing that a person has done something positive. Receiving it is something else. Do you have insider information on whether IA endorsed this nomination?

      • FishMilk

        Hi Haile S. I do know that In David Piling’s Africa Year in Review, on 5 things that shook Africa during 2018, he included: ‘Abiymania-Prime Minister Ahmed’s political reforms in Ethiopia are remarkable so far. I wholeheartedly endorse the enthusiasm for Ahmed and the new possibilities he has created domestically and internationally, such as the rapprochement with Eritrea’.

        • Yohannes Zerai

          Dear FishMilk,

          So, this disease of ‘giving away to outsiders what you have denied to your own people and country’ is actually more serious and widespread than I thought it was! Fortunately, it is coming back to haunt the very people who championed it!

          We know that, for you and others of your ilk, your demigod Isaias is “the one and the only” and always at the head of the pack — possessing the highest level of courage, heroism, intelligence, political skills, leadership qualities, etc., etc. But having fallen victim to the very disease that afflicts your leader, you are instead rooting for Abiy and “endorsing” his candidacy for the Nobel Peace Prize! I can almost hear Isaias telling you “Blessed be my son! You are doing the right thing, my dear; that is exactly what I did too — I handed Abiy the leadership authority that I snatched from the people along with the country that I claim I created and, of course, own as my personal property.”

          But in fairness to the Isaias-worshipping lot, I must admit that you yourself deserve a prize of sorts for having faithfully followed the teachings and practices of your unhinged leader.

          Thank you

          • FishMilk

            Hi Yohannes Zerai. This is where you guys are getting it all wrong and why the number of moderate posters here continues to wither away. Whilst I support the peace process and I do admire PM Abiy and what he has accomplished, I am not a PIA/PFDJ supporter.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Hi FishMilk,

            Could you tell me what your Abiche, the night hyena, accomplished since his appearance on the stage. I hear the mill clamor, but no results on the ground. He has accepted to demarcate the border, but we see him jump from branch to branch and at the end of day he will disintegrate the country into slices.

            Some Eritreans and phonies, like FishMilk, boarded with Satan on his ship and for sure at the end of the day he will push them down the cliff and laugh at them. Ex-supporters are almost pushed down the cliff, but they are dull to grasp it quickly. Isaias is now very happy with his new supporters and relatives in Gonder. The Gonderye says to his ex-supporters, “ደስክልኩም እኹም እንተ ዝርዳኣኩም”.

            Al-Arabi

          • FishMilk

            Hi Hameed Al-Arabi. I take it that -Extremests- are amongst those who wish the peace process to faulter. That places you in the bleachers with post-1998 ELF based opposition groups, Agaizians and unionists. Thanks for the clarity!

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Hi FishMilk,

            I think, it is clear now for all that the Night Hyena has coined a new name for Union, that is, Meddamar. Do you recognize any difference between these two words? They are the same; the only difference is the first one is peculiar to Haile Selase and the second one for the Night Hyena.

            I am clear from the beginning to end if you miss it that is your problem as it is the problem of many fake Eritreans.

            TRULY, ADVERSITY IS THE REAL TESTER OF SORTING GENUINE FROM FORGED, THE CHAFF.

            Al-Arabi

          • FishMilk

            Hi Hameed Al-Arabi. Michael Jackson long ago sang a song with U.S.A. for Africa called ‘We Are The World’. You think he was a CIA undercover unionist with a hidden agenda to grab East Africa?

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Hi FishMilk,

            As all by now conceive, the Night Hyena likes to work in the dark and with criminals.

            I think, you don’t know how to trade. Of course, it is plain as slave you miss that and as we see and watch you sell yourself to the poorest and a country that still lives in the Stone Age. Really, it is very sad. Are there in our modern world such kind of guys who jump, dance, run, pant and sweat just to become slaves? Truly, it is astonishing and unbelievable in the 21st century.

            Al-Arabi

      • Paulos

        Selam Hailat,

        These people are funny! Since the peace process started, close to 27 thousand Eritreans fled to Ethiopia; a courageous soul dared and stood up to Isaias when he wrote a scathing book from inside Eritrea and was later thrown to the dungeons; Abiy the phoney keeps poking Eritreans on the area dear and sacred to them as he keeps malaigning Eritrean sovereignty. And here we have a cheerleader adverting Nobel Prize for a charlatan who is pulling stunts on par with Houdini.

        • Haile S.

          Hi Paul,
          You are funny:-) :-). Everything in Eritrea is getting run by proxy. This one is also getting nominated for a prestigious prize by proxy. Instead of being inclusive and bring all able citizens to run the country, the Eritrean regime who wants to be seen as the only capable of everything (ንሱ ጥራይ ዝከኣሎ), is running things by proxy. Even the mythic Abraham Hannibal’s story and the statue of his great grand son is a Glory by Proxy! Yet Eritrea is not deprived of glorious people.

  • FishMilk

    Hi Yohannes Zerai. Your article would have made at least partial sense should it have been written a month ago. A big factor that you fail to mention is that a high-level Ethiopia and Eritrea joint committee is in fact currently working on finalization of a road-map to institutionalize cooperation between the two States to include specifics on trade regulation, port usage, customs/immigration, and transport through legal frameworks. And, that thereto, a roll-out trial period of 4-months to enable benefit from lessons learnt process, will be implemented.

    You state that {The newfound idea of “integrating East Africa” is a project that the KSA-UAE coalition is pushing with the complicity of the two leaders to advance its politico-economic agenda in the Horn}. However, attempts at regional integration are hardly new and go back to 1986 with IGAD. Regarding East Africa regional integration and meetings which earlier took place in Bahir Dar, you conveniently forget to mention the importance of Sudan in the regional intigration, and instead choosing only to see the negaticve possible slight against the TPLF.

    Alas, like most here, you completely fail to mention any forward looking strategies to enable or facilitate much needed change, from within or thru, the PIA/PFDJ regime.

    • Ismail AA

      Selam FishMilk,

      Yours truly has more than once asked you to come out to the open and give people like me reason to engage you in meaningful debate as real and not as virtual person. I do this for a reason. Since you write your posts as a well-informed person and insist with obsession on a view that Eritreans should not act anyway other than the despot and his closed party to seek change, it makes concerned individuals like me incline to believe that you may indeed be a proper interlucator to engage with. To make the point clearer your playground is hopelessly circumscribed not to allow more than one player, and that is the despot who is the source of all vices.

      • Haile WM

        Hello Ismail AA,

        if you have observed (and i Know you already did) some categories of forumers will act in patterns. and i do believe the one you are trying to engage is one of them:

        — get attention (they would say things acceptable to all PIA/DIA regime crimes),
        — distract people from the main issue by constantly bringing
        external issues (TPLF/Ethiopia/GameOver/ PMAA nobel prize etc..)
        –they will propose a change factor (PIA/DIA/PFDJ etc…)
        –then will tell you some magic is happening (some thing happened in adi
        Halo, Asmara… yibehal alo)

        and repeat the process ad libitum 🙂

        all they do is buying time for the inevitable.

        • Ismail AA

          Selam Haile WM,
          I can’t agree more. The interaction of some of them measure up to a pattern as you have explained to the extent a single glance at a nickname lets the reader know what he/she will anticipate to reader in the light of a particular comment or even an article critical to the regime.

    • Amanuel

      Hi FM,
      Could you please share names of the members of the high level joint committee on the Eritrean side? Last time you said you have a list of opposition organisation & news outletes funded by the TPLF government of Ethiopian. You are very good at talking the talk but we haven’t seen the walk.

      • FishMilk

        Hi Amanuel. Please refer to Yemane G. Meskel’s tweet on the 29th wherein he says ‘Eritrea-Ethiopia Interim High Level Committee, led by the Foreign Ministers of the two countries, is undertaking consultations to regularize trade and transport relations’ as well as Borkena’s article ‘Eritrea and Ethiopia roadmap for cooperation ready’ of the same date.

    • Yohannes Zerai

      Dear FishMilk,

      Thank you for you comments in which you raised a few points that are worthy of response. The ideas/arguments I am presenting below are in response to your comment, but also to similar comments that others have made in connection with this article.

      1(a). You seem to be impressed that seven months after the two leaders signed a peace treaty, a “high-level joint committee” has began working on such basic and elementary aspects of bilateral relations as formulating regulations/guidelines for “trade, port usage, customs/immigration, and transport”. Given that the war had costed the two countries 100,000 human lives and had forced them to remain on a war footing for twenty long years, this article is concerned not with routine trade arrangements but with the more fundamental issues of ensuring (i) sustainability of the recently restored peace and (ii) prevention of possible backsliding into hostility. That is why it argues that the parties should commit to “ensuring that the ruinous consequences of the conflict are addressed and the political/economic disputes which led to a war that wrought so much devastation, bloodshed and human suffering are resolved.”

      1(b). Incidentally — as Amanuel and others have already asked to no avail — can you identify ALL the Eritrean members of this “high-level joint committee”? Or are they the same, all-purpose, inseparable duo who serve as the faithful messengers of Isaias (which the region is sick and tired of seeing them shuffling into every meeting that the regime attends regardless of the theme, objective, authority level, qualifications, experience, etc that those meetings require). It is as if the country and even the regime do not have any other people qualified to attend those meetings — It is an insult to the deranged leader himself, except that he doesn’t, of course, understand it; and it is really his ‘cheering’ followers that must be pitied!!

      2 (a). You have confused two organizations. IGADD (Intergovernmental Authority on Drought and Development) was founded in 1986 to focus on development and environmental control — mainly to combat drought (desertification) and to control desert locust in the region. In 1996 this organization was restructured and its charter amended upgrading it to IGAD (Intergovernmental Authority on Development) as a successor organization.

      2(b). Yes, you are right; IGAD’s mission is regional integration. Although IGAD has a rotating chairmanship, Ethiopia has inexplicably held the position continuously for the last 11 years. So why, despite all these advantages — existing organization that has advanced the cause of regional integration for 22 years and over which Ethiopia has huge influence — did PM Abiy decide to start a similar parallel effort involving just three of the Horn countries? The answer is: Because those three countries are what KSA and UAE are ready to exploit for now; and Abi and his friend “wedi Afey” have been co-opted to lay the groundworks for that exploitation in return for billions of petrodollars offered to them. That’s why!!

      2(c). You mentioned Sudan in connection with the so-called tripartite integration effort. I sincerely hope that was a slip of the tongue on your part (or rather a fiddle of the finger that happened while typing in your comment)! But if you are really serious about it, let me alert you to the following FACTS. For better or for worse, legitimate or not, Sudan is playing a seemingly sophisticated diplomatic game of its own intended to (i) secure alliances with two opposing camps and (ii) be able to draw maximum political/economic/security benefits from both camps — Russia-Turkey-Qatar, on the one hand, and Egypt-Saudi Arabia-UAE, on the other. The question of whether or not this strategy will work for Sudan is not really relevant to our debate. What is important is the fact that Omar al-Bashir has no time for the petty politics of rhetoric with which Abiy and Isaias seem to have been obsessed. In addition, he has been too busy fighting for his political survival which together with his earlier decision to close his border with Eritrea (opened only a few days ago) indicate that “integration” is the last thing on his mind–Pure and simple!

      3. People endowed with some level of modesty, realism and wisdom understand that as pro-democracy and pro-justice force, their obligation is to understand the needs of their people, the nature of the problem to be solved/removed, their friends and enemies, etc. all of which take time and effort. To succeed, the strategy for carrying out the process of change will have to be based on these understandings. It is this responsible and considered approach that you and your cohorts are trying to ridicule as being “unproductive” so as to derail and sabotage the effort. But, that will never happen! You see, accomplishing this difficult task is not as simple as following a tyrant to an eventual self-destruction. Because all the latter takes is a “pair of hands for clapping” and “an animal instinct and herd mentality” to follow WHOEVER is leading!!

      Thank you

      • FishMilk

        Hi Yohannes Zerai. Thank you for your comments for which I will here-under address.
        1(a): I have been critical from the beginning of the lack of transparency in regards to the peace process. Given that said, I embrace the peace process and I am encouraged that the details (however late in coming) are now being worked out. I do not have a contrary opinion to fundamental issues which you have highlighted.
        1(b): The PIA/PFDJ regime is a totalitarian dictatorship which lacks transparency and accountability. So, responding to questions in regards to who are the individual members of the high-level committee, are a bit mundane. No?
        2(a). Yes, you are correct in your differentiation between IGADD and IGAD, However both are HoA intergovernmental initiatives for which its member states should in principle derive economic benefit. So again, integrating east Africa is hardly a newfound idea.
        2(b). IGAD’s shortfalls to include lack of neutrality (HQ in Djibouti), especially in regards to Eritrea since the border war and in relation to unjustified U.N. actions connected to Somalia. So, it should not be surprising that initial efforts are aimed at mending fences between Eritrea, Djibouti and Somalia.
        2(c): It was not a slip of the finger. Keep in mind that Sudan, Eritrea and Ethiopia are all critical to the South Sudan peace process. Al Bashir may well be too occupied to continue with Sudan’s leading role within IGAD on South Sudan. Ethiopia, which previously took center stage, is preoccupied with the Eritrean peace rapprochement and in dealing with internal matters. Nor are Kenya or Uganda, whose reputations have both suffered in regards to South Sudan, in a position to fill the gap. There are precious few others -least of all Djibouti and Somalia- able to fill the regional vacuum on the South Sudan peace process.
        3: You say that ‘accomplishing this difficult task is not as simple as following a tyrant to an eventual self-destruction. Because all the latter takes is a “pair of hands for clapping” and “an animal instinct and herd mentality” to follow WHOEVER is leading!!’. You need to come center a bit as you are loosing cogency when you make such a wide inflamatory and unjustified generalization.

        Thanks!

  • Brhan

    Hello Yohannes,

    Thank you for your effort to write the article that analyzed the currenct major political situations of Eritrea, Ethiopia and Somalia, and the result of their meetings to try to form cooperation among themselves.

    You also addressed the role of Saudi Arabia and UAE in the region. But I will come to this issue later.

    In addtion, you excellently indicated about this rush and show of type regional intergration attempt that is mainly led by Abiy. He is missing the idea of forming healthy regional cooperation. To form a helathy regional cooperation , every nation has to have rule of law, human rights and democracy. Here the saying won’t only be Eritrea is out of the subject ( because none of the elements exisit in it) but also it will include Ethiopia and Somalia because there many question markes to their process to implementing those elements in their respected countries.

    Now back to SA and UAE. I saw the article did not cover the internal political situaiton of SA and UAE . Addressing the internal political situation of both countries will help us see their ramification to the horn of africa.

    Like Eritrea, SA and UAE are ruled by dictators. Even though SA is doing a lot of publicity that it is chaning under the leadership of MBS, facts say , citizens of SA have not yet started to see the benefits of the changes in their lives. Many of the elite who are opposing , are thrown to jails. UAE also is similar to SA: trying to satisfy the western regimes that it is an open society. But the irony is that the west is also ciriticizing both countries for their failure to bring real changes ..freedom of speech, rule of law and democracy. I see both countries are in crisis . Are their ruleres bringing the changes for them to stay in power or for their countires to continue stay as peacful and stable coutries? Their action indicate that they are leading their countries to crisis after crises which can explode to chaos that won’t affect not only their countries but also the countires of the horn of africa. Because that means the only incentive and base that is pushing Abiy to go north and east of Ethiopia for cooperation will cease to stand.

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Selam Yohannes,

    We have been waiting a weighty piece for sometime (a) that ignite the great minds of this forum (b) that breaks the complex geopolitical games of the region in to pieces of political nuggets to digest and comprehend by the forumers and beyond (c) a piece which deconstruct the camouflaged agreement to discover its intent and its fallacy (d) a piece that identify the drivers of the agreements (e) a piece that evaluate the domestic realities of the countries in context the peace agreement as a test of feasibilities (a) a piece that discloses the contradictory ambition of the actors.

    Your article has done a good service to tackle the aforementioned points to understand the actors and the nature of the peace agreement with in the context of geopolitics of the region, the domestic realities, the behavior of the actors so to speak. You have never failed to scrutinize the intent of our despot and the over all conspiracy on our sovereignty. Thank brother.

    • Yohannes Zerai

      Dear Amanuel,

      Please accept my apologies for the tardy response.

      I thank you for your positive remarks regarding the article and your appreciation for my miniscule contribution. As you have hinted in your comment, the realities that confront us as a movement are not, by any measure, easy. The issues/problems to be dealt with are multiple, actors are many, policies/decisions/actions are diverse, processes are varied and interactions/interrelations between all of these variables are wildly intricate. The sum total of all these factors has imposed on each country of the Horn (and on the region as a whole) a state of affairs, or a REALITY, that is as dauntingly complex as one can imagine.

      For these very reasons, it is perhaps impossible to have a full and complete understanding of this “complex reality” no matter how much time and effort is devoted to the task. But if each of many pro-democracy activists develops a small piece of that understanding and shares it with the rest of us, the aggregate of such individual contributions would help us construct a decent (though not, by any means, perfect) ‘utility picture’ of the EXISTING REALITY. This, in turn, will enable us to formulate a robust strategy capable of effecting the change we seek. Incidentally, this should be one of the primary objectives of the discussions and debates we run at Awate.

      The feeble-minded or wicked AMONG THE anti-democracy and anti-change elements lack either the mental capacity to understand these truths, or the courage and honesty to admit them. Whichever one may be their problem, they unashamedly try to use it to discourage pro-democracy activists and derail their struggle by claiming that “all the useless opposition groups do is talk and write, but are incapable of bringing about any meaningful change”. That claim is really pitiful, but no need to try to respond to it because even the very people who utter it know that it is fake! They say it simply as an involuntary manifestation of the fear and anxiety that grips them when watching the change that is taking place around them. They see the growing power and increasing confidence of the democratic forces nurtured by their evolving and expanding struggle which is starting to gather momentum. They are paranoid that the smart, patriotic ones among them now realize that the time has come to change course and prepare to ride the soon-to-arrive swelling tide of democratic transformation. They are distressed that the only other choice open to them is being left behind for consignment to the heap of history!

      The Struggle Continues!

  • Ismail AA

    Selam Yohannes,

    This is well-thought review work of recent political and public relations events in the region. You have fished out the threads of a situation rendered extremely complex by rather impromptu politics of two leaders very much contradictory to one another and connect them to one another to constitute fairly coherent perspective.

    What has emerged from the survey is that there is nothing solid and everything remains fluid due to the unsettled conditions in the countries of the main players, namely three nations: Ethiopia, Eritrea and Somalia as you have indicated. The domestic dynamics in those countries should not escape the attention of analysts and strategists.

    Moreover, the principal players behind the “iron-curtain” appear to have understood these realities and keen to use proxies – the two crown princes in Saudi Arabia and Emirates, respectively. Meantime, they seem to be awaiting how rivalries on big geo-strategic issues in the region will shape in places like Syria, Iraq, Yemen and (the mother of all) the Israeli and Palestinian conflict, which is on Trump administration cards via the pampered son-in-law, Kushner.

    • Brhan

      Ahlan Ustaz Ismail
      Public Relations is a tool ….can be used for good and bad..thus we have genuine Public Reations …killing it will be taking out the fish out of water

      • Ismail AA

        Hayak Allah Ustaz Brhan,
        Yes indeed, the first part of your statement is correct; but I failed to see the context of the last part of your point. Maybe I should have qualified the way I used it in my comments.

  • Selam All,

    Every world actor has its own fears, expectations and hopes. In my opinion the KSA and UAE are worried about Iran’s influence in the region and its uncontrolled hegemonic power in the future, if it straddles the red sea by bringing eritrea, sudan and ethiopia under its influence, on top of its dream to control the middle east (syria, lebanon, iraq), thus encircling the gcc countries. Remember, iran’s presences in yemen, coupled with gaining influence in the countries on the other side of the red sea, will bring the red sea waterway under the complete control of iran. This could choke both ksa and uae, by controlling or blocking their oil export to the eu. Iran was once in eritrea and sudan, and with some money to spare, IA could easily change side, and al bashir cornered as he is, he may not act differently.

    China, the emerging hegemonic power of the world in the future has already a big footprint in africa, which the west is not sure will be able to counterbalance its economic and military power. Africa may not be saved from being completely sucked into china’s geopolitical plans, which of course, will affect the west negatively.

    China’s military and economic power coupled with iran’s military power may seal off the indian ocean from the west and thus form a new world epicenter, where the east could be the new economic and military power of the world. If this happens the west is doomed to wither away, under the weight of its greed, arrogance, and its paranoia to protect its white skin, which it believes is its asset to rule the world forever.

    Just look at the new players: china, india, russia, and iran. The rest in the region simply will be forced to abide by the rules of the new masters. That, i think, is the new situation that is developing, while the supremacist and far-right west is engaged and consumed in self-destruction and slowly ending up irrelevant. The new world situation is helped by imbeciles like trump, the confused brexiters, the mafia fascist rulers in italy and those who found freedom in the european union after seventy years under the communist dark ages, and despicably want to do the same thing to others, because they have a different skin color, religion or culture, countries like hungary, poland, and others, who are undermining the eu.

    If the center of the future world lies in the east, don’t you think that the small pieces of the puzzle (ethiopia and eritrea) are simply moved around to see where they can finally fit in the big puzzle? Together they may have some relevance; separated, their fate is to be ignored and simply told what to do, without having a say in the whole process. Unfortunately, there are many, especially eritreans, who do not want to add value to the recent agreement and rapprochement, and they would rather subtract value from the new situation so that things remain the same until oblivion.

    • Hayat Adem

      Ato Horizon,
      The key element in surviving geopolitical pushes and shoves is not necessarily in boarding on and off every boat together. It is in defining your interest, flagging your principles and knowing your game. On everything else, nations can stay and play transactional and pragmatic. What are Ethiopia’s/ Eritrea’s vital interests? Does Ethiopia/ Eritrea have principles and standards to honor? What is Ethiopia’s/ Eritrea’s play book? It is not a matter of flying together; the flight needs to be purposive around serving a grand agenda. Qatar survived a blockade without succumbing to the bullying predators. Ethiopia must be watching Egypt until such that the Nile is desecuritized. This matter will always cloud the natural relationship to be expected between Ethiopia and the Gulfs, which should be about trade, tourism and investment (away from religous and political influences). Eritrea’s geoplitical problem right now is IA. The primary contradiction in the Eritrean politics between a nation and a man. Nothing else makes sense until the nation prevails over the man. The nation has to be free first from this hoggery man.

      • Hi Hayat Adem,

        So, that is the priority you have for eritrea; wait until the man goes, probably by himself, the result of a natural process, because you cannot act on it. Maybe another decade or so, and nobody knows who may follow, somebody better or worse. Until that time everything Is postponed, and made stationary, and the people of Eritrea should wait patiently or act by themselves, like leaving the country. There are many who give free advice and none who act to depose the man and bring a change that is needed asap.

        I do not know if you have special principles and standards for Eritrea. For Ethiopia I hope the guiding compass is survival and the wellbeing of the nation, in this unforgiving world in which the big fish eats the small fish, otherwise, the fittest survives, before any grand agenda for ethiopia, whatever that means.

        If you are comparing Eritrea and Qatar, you will be comparing two different countries, the one an oil and natural gas rich country with powerful friends like Iran and turkey, and you may add to that the usa, which keeps equal distance, while Eritrea is a poor country that has lost its young and the rest of its population ready to leave the land.

        You bring so often Egypt, but that doesn’t seem to have affected Ethiopia. She is doing business with the whole world despite Egypt and her dreams over the Nile. If there are people who expect Egypt to occupy Ethiopia and abort the gerd, or block ethiopia’s trade and cooperation with other arab nations, it must exist only in their minds, and not in the real world. Egypt has lost its clout, survives on allowances from ksa and other gulf states, and it is more or less unstable like Ethiopia, and I believe that it has a lot of problems on its hands, and opening a front with Ethiopia is the least that will help her situation.

        It is not a must that Eritrea should cooperate with Ethiopia, because ethiopia can do it alone, if she has to. Eritrea did not need the au, igad and may not need to be a member of the African free trade zone, as long as self reliance is doing miracles and lofty principles and standards should come first, before the interest of its suffering people and the immediate mitigation of their predicaments. It depends on how one sees it.

    • Amanuel

      Hi Harizon
      I have a question needed explanation. You guys (medemer group) don’t want borders between the two countries (Eritrea & Ethiopia) but you are keen on having between your regional administrations, specially between the Tigray and Amhar regions, even set up a commission to facilitate it. Can you reconcile these two conflicting ideas please? I can’t make sense of them.
      Thanks

      • Hi Amanuel,

        The issue of demarcation was made mute mainly from the eritrean side, and why so should be directed to the eritrean regime. IA has said and shown directly and indirectly that border demarcation was not and is not important. What should ethiopia do in this case?

        Unfortunately, that is not the whole story. Demarcation affects mainly the state of tigray. I do not know its position. If it is for or against it. If the regional government of tigray does not want to respect the decision of the federal government as it does, what is the option for ethiopia? Can it invade tigray to demarcate the borders? That is out of the question.

        As long as the regime in asmara has no problem in waiting and it is doing business with ethiopia nonetheless, maybe it is postponing it for another date for its own reasons. Anyway, the answer is in asmara.

        • Amanuel

          Hi Horizon
          Thanks for your reply.
          I understand that is the Eritrean side business if you are specifically talking about the contentious areas. Having said that I also think it shouldn’t be deligated to regional government as it is a federal government business. You can’t promise to abide by the decision with out precondition and turn round and say by the way you have to speak to those people.

          My question was not about the demarcation but it was ruther about the principle of boundary in general. For example Abiy talks about no boarder when he talks about integration and some Ethiopian friends support it. I have the impression you also support it. I have no problem with that as far I as we know were exactly it is but I get confused when the same people talk about borders and identify with in their country.

    • Hameed Al-Arabi

      Hi Horizon,

      You are playing the same ragged game. Are you not bored from it? Eritreans have gone a long way through such kind of propaganda. All colours of divide and rule, and phobias are experienced upon them. The worn phobia of Arabs and Islam that you have implemented failed. Now, you came to create a phobia from Iran, china and the East. My friend, we have lived when the West were strong and will continue to survive when the East is strong. Do you want to beguile us by telling us that when Eritrea and Ethiopia unite they will be a superpower. The power that has 3000 years of civilization and led of the world. Are you kidding? An empty hand presents nothing. Do you understand that you are centuries back from the world?

      In a nut shell, the people of Eritrea do not want to be the slaves of the poorest and uncivilized country in the world. An integration with Ethiopia means endless swimming in ignorance and poverty.

      Al-Arabi

      • Hi All Arabi,

        Without being aware of it, by saying “The best solution for the Horn is that Ethiopia should be disintegrated. Ethiopia is the composition of different peoples that will never live together in peace; it is a map created by the force of colonizers, and should be disintegrated to its real components”, you brought one big truth about Eritrea that it is the result of the scramble for Africa by European colonialists.

        Look at the size and shape of Eritrea, the main aim being to landlock ethiopia by italy first, and then by those who inherited it, and how the Afar ethnic group was partitioned into three as the result of an artificial border created on a map in Berlin without setting foot on the ground.

        Ethiopia and Eritrea went to so many destructive wars for no other reason but for what the colonialists left behind.

        This may help you understand which one of the two countries is really the creation of colonialists. Are you aware of the nine Eritrean ethnic groups when you talk of one ethnic group hegemony in ethiopia? Don’t throw stone because you too live in a glass house. Try to understand the big difference between what you say, and what the people of eritrea do, who have no hate, and what they care about is peace, normality and their economic wellbeing, unlike their elites.

        • Hameed Al-Arabi

          Hi Horizon,

          It is better to read history without chopping. Ethiopia is a country made by the force of colonizers, refer to history. Most of the peoples that constitute Ethiopia have lands not land-locked. Ogaden is part and parcel of Somali, The Oromo have a connection with Indian Ocean, the South peoples are part of Kenya where they have the vast Indian Ocean, South West of Ethiopia peoples have a relation with the countries South of them and the Afars have close relation with Djibouti. The only two ethnic groups that are land-locked are Amhara and Tigrai. Both of them produced the worst dictators. They always worked as agents of the West to occupy their neighbors and enslave them. They do nothing on their own without being shouldered.

          The people of Eritrea are one people. Haile Selase divided them into two warring parties and Isaias, the offspring of Amhara divided Eritreans to nine groups. You see my friend, all ailments are exported from the south. This is the only commodity they possess, exporting diseases, poverty and ignorance.

          It is amazing an AGENT and SLAVE of the West to say Zeraf in the region and to tell us about his 3000 years old fake history. Actually, it is only the history of treachery and kissing of boots.

          Al-Arabi

          • Al Arabi,

            No need really to get so emotional and so hysterical. If you are frustrated, name calling and obsession with the 3000 yrs history is not going to help you in any way imaginable. Control your emotions.
            While you fret and fume, eritreans continue going to the country you hate so much leaving behind people like you. You do not seem to be getting the message. They do not believe your words and they do not trust you.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Hi Horizon,

            At the time you are hallucinating and fumigating in la-la land, the people of Eritrea are raging to see again the same old story of Zeraf, Zeraf, Zeraf and kids excuses and justifications.

            The Red Sea as its name alludes is a blood sea. Any guy who wants to swim in a blood sea should dare to touch Eritrea. You made me laugh “Eritreans continue going to Ethiopia”. Oh! What a fantastic logic you have brought. I know you have a heaven on the earth, therefore Eritreans aspiration is only to enter the promised land in droves and join the poverty stricken settlers of your heaven. Do you think all Eritreans are dreaming to enter your heaven? Eritreans have a rich experience with Ethiopia, I don’t think they will be cheated easily with your ragged tricks.

            The map you have drawn by licking and employing the white-man is on its way to fragmentation into more than five parts: Somalis will join their brothers in Somali, Oromos will head towards south and form their own country. Afars will join Djibouti and form a strong country in the region, the south peoples will join their bothers in Kenya, etc. I think it is enough; you have enslaved those peoples for centuries. Truly, greediness has no border and makes its subject ends up poor and hungry. Tell me, my friend, do you know more than eating raw meat like predatory wild-animals?

            Al-Arabi

  • Geleta Gammo

    I don’t get why you think regional integration is such a bad idea? It should be clear for any rational observer even Ethiopia can not be sustained as a nation if the statues quo remains let alone Eritrea and Somalia. We will all become a failed states.

    • Yohannes Zerai

      Dear Geleta Gammo,

      Thank for your comments to which I would like to respond as follows:

      a) (1st paragraph of your comment) It is not that I think regional integration is bad — It is not. But, the conditions for it simply do not exist in the Horn of Africa at this time. Each of these countries (Ethiopia, Eritrea and Somalia) is “burning”, so to speak, engulfed with its homegrown problems. So, anyone concerned should rush to save these countries from themselves by helping to put out these fires; one should certainly not try to put the three countries together unless one’s wishes is to see a bigger bonfire consume the trio at one fell swoop! And if each country is not willing to put its own house in order and solve its own problems, joining another troubled country is not going to save it from becoming a Failed State!

      b) (2nd paragraph) Democracy (political pluralism, etc.) will come to Eritrea — or to any other country, for that matter — through the efforts and struggle of its own people; NOT, second hand, as a result of appendaging itself to another country! Not only is the suggested process a convoluted one but it is demeaning to a people that yearns to control its own destiny. The Eritrean people have long ascertained that fact to themselves through their long, bitter struggle for liberation.

      c) (3rd paragraph) This is the first time that I am hearing (reading) “imbalance of democracy” as having been the cause of war between Eritrea and Ethiopia, or as the cause of any conflict in Africa! Available records on the issue do not bear out your assertion on this topic.

      Thank you

      • Geleta Gammo

        What I meant about a democratic imbalance is the presence of a multi-party democracy in Eritrea and absolute monarchy in Ethiopia were incomparable. Many say the abolition of the federation and the democratic institutions in Eritrea did put the trajectory of the conflict in a destructive path. If Ethiopia had a democratic system that address all grievances in a transparent manner things may not have deteriorated to the level of destructiveness that we have seen. This of course being a hindsight….

        But there is another future scenario that the Eritrean elite choose often to ignore. The conflict did culminate with the defeat of one party. That kind of conflict resolution always holds a potential for renewed conflict. We have seen that a few years after the fall of the dergue. Lets put aside for a time being discussion who has right or wrong, since that is not how conflicts are resolved.

        The aspiration of 100 million people to have a sea access can not be simply ignored. It may be possible to stitch it with a carefully constructed treaties, political and diplomatic arms twisting, but that can not be a basis for lasting peace. The Eritrean issue will always be the single most important issue in Ethiopia. a person like Meles who is hated by almost every one in the country managed to raise the entire country when it comes to go to war with Eritrea. You may argue that is wrong but that is the reality.

        There is no guarantee that another Meles or Mengistu that will not use this very question as a vehicle to come to power. For most Ethiopians Meles was as pro Eritrean as Isayas.

        In my view what Abyi and Isayas are doing to bring regional integration may save us from going through all the nasty conflicts.

        • Nitricc

          Hi Geleta; I say your most single important issue should be Holding to one Ethiopia as we know it before trying to harass Eritrea and Eritreans. Why Eritrea? Why can’t you say the same to Somali, Djibouti, Sudan and Kenya? You tried force for 30 years and you were crushed. Again trusting TPLF’s inner working of EPLF tried again with everything you had and still the Eritreans gave you a lesson you will never forget. Finally you got a decent leader and he figured it out how to handle Eritrea and Eritreans through peace and giving them what they want. Eritrea say okay, as long as it is peaceful I am in and let’s work together. Now my question to you is why are resorting in to force and intimidation while the peace just doing fine? You have an ample reference point if force works with Eritrea; 1988-2000. you were at your strongest point in your history and Eritrea at her weakest point on her history and still Eritrea defeated you. I suggest, let’s work by respecting each others and with peace. anything else, you know the story.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Nitrickay,

            GG is telling you based from the words that came out from their Prime minister. Listen to this:

            https://mobile.twitter.com/deqiwoldemikel/status/1092573361761218561

          • Geleta Gammo

            Thank you Amanuel.
            I am not sure how you take that but that statement is said in the most positive note that is possible given the circumstances. He actually believes if there is pace and work only towards improving the lives of our compatriots we will come to the conclusion that the political and economic integration of the horn of Africa will be a natural outcome.
            But if we concentrate in claims and counter claims then the last 27 years is what we are going to get.

            The truth is if we do not agree to leave behind the hostilities and work towards the betterment of the region others will use our conflicts against each other.

            This above article did point out correctly the geo-politics of the region how it will play out with the same school of thought that prevailed for the last half a century.

            But if it is possible to leave all that behind (lets say because we realize there is no winner) and work towards improving the lives of our citizens then….

          • Nitricc

            Hi Aman-H; I am not surprised to hear him say that. He is trying to hold on to this one Ethiopia idea and everything is on fire. When you think the ethnic drama died down, now there is a religious war zone. I mean he is trying to disproof the WEYNE that he can lead the country and the country is one and united. I don’t blame him at all for saying what he has said.

          • Paulos

            Nitrikay,

            Do you know what Mengistu’s marketing pitch was? “ኢትዮጵያ ትቅደም.” And this phoney guy is selling the same thing deep in the thick with Isaias where Isaias is scr*wing the true believers over and over again.

          • Nitricc

            Hi P: it is true PMAA has helped Eritrea. Thanks to him by accepting the border ruling as is; he solved many of our problems. PIA is naked and he has no reasons or excuses any more. National military is back to regular. in general PIA days are numbered. So, I wouldn’t put any weight to it. Even if they conspire anything; they don’t have time to complete anything. in the mean time, don’t be surprised if you hear PMAA claims more ridicules things. he is desperate. Ethiopia is in a new and dangerous religious war if the Ethnic conflict is not enough.

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Selam Nitrickay
            You are absolutely right. If not for the young PM in Ethiopia, Eritrea would still be sanctioned, Wayane would be ruling Ethiopia and making threats to invade Eritrea; armies of both countries would be facing each other where we would still be in a state where war could erupt at any moment,claiming thousands of young people. Today we are talking about regional cooperation and about big ideas, Sure, we will have to watch out but the rhetoric is just rhetoric. Your observation is similar to mine. Dr.Abiy is working hard to unite his country, And the niche that has currency at this time is talking about “medemer”. We take medemer as based on the recognition that Eritrea is an independent state. Unfortunately, sometimes he is becoming a loose cannon and heightening the expectations of some Ethiopians.
            I am confident things will settle down when both countries actually enter into full-blown normalization (demarcation of the border, settling issues of customs and passports/visas and when the broad agreements are spelled out and enter a phase of implementation.

            After all, it is Dr.Abiy challenged his won parliamentarians for the implementation of the EEBC verdict and the Algiers Peace Agreement. So, your assessment is correct. Even if we are to take his words literally, Dr. Abiy is talking about the possibilities of a remote future. However, the party that is violating our sovereign right at this time by putting hurdles to Dr.Abiy’s decision to demarcate the border is TPLF, and do not expect TPLF cadres to be nice to the PM.

          • Amanuel

            Hi MH
            Welcome back you were missed. Even though we don’t agree on some issues I prefer debating with you as I know exactly to whom I am talking to.

            I agree a lot has changed for the better compared to a year ago as the result of change in Ethiopia. However to make it sustainable the boarder must be demarcated as per the decision. It is the federal government business and has to delivered it. It is not something you can delegate to TPLF because if they have the will they would have done it years ago. This shows the problem on IA side was not the boarder issue. Demarcation issue was used as a cage to captivate his followers. Guess what the same people had moved to another cage and are saying TPLF are blocking demarcation so let’s entertain the integration idea ( trying to justify or make excuses for Abiy speeches for example you called it loose cannon.)

            Another issue I want raise is that some time ago you said IA will have no option but reform. Do you really believe that is possible knowing IA? Last weekend there was a panel discussion in London and one of the panelist described IA as a piece of string you can’t push against because he doesn’t care any more as he was left with nothing to lose in this world. There fore he must be removed to bring change in Eritrea and it is about time you join the call.

          • Paulos

            Nitrikay,

            I agree. Isaias, as it happens is cooped up in his small turf ዓዲሓሎ. In fact, today, Assenna aired that the discontent of the people is gaining traction including with in the highest brass of the government where Isaias’ spies are in an Adrinaline overdrive while Isaias is getting increasingly paranoid.

            What is so interesting is that, right at the bottom of the comment section of the YouTube where the Assenna news is aired, there are 191 comments in total. Guess how many of those are sympathetic to Isaias? Zero! All 191 of them say, Isaias must go!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Nitrickay,

            Do you really understood what he said? When he said “The ones that has separated will return to the loop of Ethiopia” is not a strange to you? If this does not make your eyes roll, then what?

          • Nitricc

            Hi Aman-H desperate people say desperate things. The guy is in troupe; his country is going in smokes. He has to give something to his people to calm down their nerves. How do you think he is going to get Eritrea to be included in to Ethiopia? Through war? through UN? Through prayer? Through Aba-Geda? how? people, please don’t take in every garbage said by Abiy; he is desperate man.

        • Hameed Al-Arabi

          Hi Geleta Gammo,

          I think, it is better to read history and take lessons from it. You have to understand, Haile Sillase entered Eritrea in the fifties of last century through the assistance of USA and Britain to preserve their interests in the Red Sea and guarantee Israeli security. Britain and USA perceive Ethiopia has no right in Eritrea or the Red Sea, but for their own interests backed Ethiopia to occupy Eritrea. This shows us that Haile Selase entered Eritrea through his local agents and USA and Britain support without the consent of Eritrea people, that means, (ሃይለ ስላሰ ኤርትራ የገባ ሸልኮ ነው). You should also apprehend that Haile Selase returned to Ethiopia from his exile by the support of the same countries.

          At present, Dr. Meddamar intends to repeat history of Haile Selase by using his agents and the same old backers, but this time will be very different and will ensue demise the country once named Ethiopia.

          My friend, your mindset seems to be stuffed with the 3000 years old fake history. Please, don’t mix sea with oxygen and say you can’t survive without it. Eritrea and her sea will not be an oxygen for you, they will definitely be carbon dioxide that suffocates anyone who comes near her.

          I think, it is better to concern much about feeding your poor people and stop fighting the wars of others.

          Al-Arabi

  • Selamat AT,

    You are stifling honest dialogue amongst the stake holders. Also it is a waist of resources to use precious man hours to filter comments that are to your distaste. There is nothing special about the well written article above and you can’t possibly guid the conversation according to your whims.

    tSAtSE

    • Thank you GitSAtSE,
      You are probably right, but you we think it’s unfair to characterize the response as an attempt “to stifling honest dialogue.” Since Nitricc addressed an editorial issue, we thought we should reply out of respect for “stakeholders. At any rate, we take your comment seriously and we thank you for that.

  • Haile S.

    Selamat Yohannes,

    Great observations. Since your article was posted, everyone in Awateland stopped grazing and went into ruminating mode for sometime and now is chewing the cud. Most of us are ruminants. Understandably, we need some carnivores, not so dangerous, they just growl among themselves. Me, I am now chewing the cud like most, admittedly with my canines :-), and swallowing back a large part of it. Some tasty fibers are still between my molars and I want to talk to you about them. The compare and contrast between PIA and PMAA was spot on. Like you alluded, along with the Somali PM they are not the three Musketeers, because they don’t have a dedicated d’Artagnan. What I am still chewing is this nutritious content. If you have followed Awate’s forum for the last few days, physiology and biochemistry were at their best thanks to our resident Will Hunting, literally speaking, aka Paulos. Coming back to my point, PMAA has still the energy, the nucleic acids and enzymes that can prescribe protein synthesis and call for the bonds that can reunite his divided nation in paranoiac need of that bloody salty water. የኣባይ ልጅ ባሕር ጠማው. Well PMAA may be a little far from the Nile, but he is like everyone missing the salty water and is able to assemble the unity when the appetite calls. He can potentially go into trance of that need when the logic of coexistence is overcome by the push for the throat. Even that entity called Melles who was partly from the womb of our heartland was able to do it in just one apparition in-front of the media! Now, the worst and greatest danger we are/have been facing is the other IAelles in our heartland, who have been removing one testis/ovary after another from everyone of his comrades-in-arm and pinching and squeezing hard the Achilles tendon of every citizen of our country. The issue has come to either submit ourselves to this devourer and reinforce him in his adventures or come together from the debilitating division and confront him even at the risk of appeasing the now Angle tomorrow’s potentially DV PMAA. DV for both spectrum of sanctity.

    • Paulos

      Selam Hailat,

      You’re something! You are right, everyone has been feeling numb for the Forum was zooming out to an unusual turf. In a way, we need a bit of a nudge once in a while so that we don’t get too bogged down in the at times dry world of politics. But you Hailat, my dear brother, as Amde would say it, you’re Gold! God bless.

      P.S. Yohannes, started reading your great article but got tied up with something in the middle. Thank you and will try to say a thing or two later on.

    • Selamat Haile S,

      Apparently you are not aware and is yet to give due credit to GOE for the creation of life itself on this earth or universe. No not GoEri, I am speaking of the Greatest Oxygenation Event or Great Oxidation Event. The redox, reduction-oxidation reaction of the following chemical reaction in bacteria for example:

      CO(2) + 2H(2)S –> CH(2)O + H(2)O n+ 2S. —– notice the H(2)O yielded on the right could be the very source of the “salty water” and or clean water of Abay/Bahr Dar. But there is another very interesting thing that is analogous to the core “IAelles”. It is the role of Earth’s electromagnetic field in preserving life, including Eritrean lives, by warding off harmful and powerful radiation from the sun and other stars that pushes away the very vital Earth’s atmosphere into outer space.

      As the author of the article Yohanns Zerai and the artist of the cover picture your conclusions is mortally flawed as your prescription to “…come together from the debilitating division and confront him…” may prove to be the factory of production of not so angelic saviors. There seems to be a convenient avoidance of the parameters of the very physics present in the above article by Mr. Yohanns Zerai. The concept of future projections for example.

      I would rather wait for our “Good Will Hunting Dude” the DAPP to address the Physics of Water than lament constantly “kumbaya ma lord” and “let us come together” mantra chantings.

      tSAtSE

      • Paulos

        Selam Tsatse Arkey,

        I certainly don’t deserve the appellation–Good-Will Hunting–but thanks Bud!

        I am afraid Awatistas will be ice bored if we do the Science thing more often. How about if we do it say, once a month when they feel like having too much of politics? In the meantime, we can figure out the word for “Water Physics” in Tigrinya.

        P.S. If you remember, Ayay, in his previous video addressed Isaias as ዓቢ-ዓርገን and that is probably the reason rightly so AT slapped Isaias with a horn. In fact, AT is too generous and kind the fact that they didn’t add a nasty fire coming out of his nostrils.

      • Haile S.

        Selam tSAtSE,

        ካብ ዘይትፈልጦ መልኣኽ
        ቀራናት ተወከልቲ ልኣኽ
        ካብ እትፈልጦ ሰይጣን
        ተማቒልካ ስልጣን።

    • Yohannes Zerai

      Dear Haile S.,

      Thank you for your interesting comment couched in metaphors and similitudes from the biological world. Being someone with a background in the physical sciences, biological and chemical processes and concepts are admittedly not my forte. Be that as it may, I have managed to get the gist of your comment and even managed to appreciate the rationale of your science-shrouded arguments. Furthermore, I anticipate your interesting comment will provoke a lively exchange on the issues and I doubly thank you for it.

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Hailat,

      The three leaders of the Horn can be described analogically as the three musketeers of the region in their unrealistic adventure, however they don’t have a common and inseparable bond as that of the “Athos, Porthos, and Aramis” the three musketeers of the age, as depicted in the novel.

  • Mez

    Dear Yohsnnes Z,

    Not easy to get your core message.

    Thanks

    • Selamat Memhrey Mez,

      You see it too or should I say DON’T SEE IT!

      tSAtSE

    • Yohannes Zerai

      Dear Mez,

      In addressing the Awate readership, the article’s intent is not so much to deliver a message per se as it is to explain a viewpoint of what, I believe, is happening in the Horn of Africa based on my reading of available news reports and my understanding of interrelationships of events that have happened in the last three year or so. But if your comment is in reference to what the main observations and/or conclusions of the article are, I believe that is something that is not difficult to figure out.

      Thank you.

      • Mez

        Good day Yohannes Z,

        Just to stay on your key line of thought:
        1) Gangng against Djibouti? This is unthinkable. Because:
        1.1) the Ethiopian government can not even wildly come to the idea of isolating Djibouti; they are tied up, with 10bln plus investment, to each other,
        1.2) a clean record of peace and harmony among them,
        1.3) China is #1 investor in Djbouti and Ethiopia (eventough primarily in extractive sector–in eritrea too)…..

        2) Regarding Eritrea-Ethiopia relation normalization discussion, we have to see the different cascaded layers carefully:
        2.1) the internal political configuration of each of them; here both do have a huge deficit,
        2.2) the perpetuation of war & animosity between the two nations (since 1998) is the worest mistake ever done by all political players (those in government and others). 2.3) Since 1997, the two nations were/are unable to device a mutually supportive framework in the interest of all.
        2.4) the war & animosity “state of affairs” ignited the migration crisis of our region, and the opting of Eritrean government to forge military alliance with gcc countries–thanks to the Yemenis crisis…..

        3) probably it is time to find common meaning of “regional integration”. For both governments:
        3.1) more and more institutions are working within the concept of “the AU Agena 2063”.
        3.2) all African countries are working on frameworks of Regional Economic Community–since over a decade. All these time the two nations were fighting each other until pmaaa’s arrival.
        3.3) under the above prevailing regional conditions, it is natural that both pia and pmaaa try to frame “regional integration ” umbrella.

        4) regarding TPLF, inherently it is still:
        4.1) a good part of the federal government,
        4.2) a governing party of the regional state, Tigrai,
        4.3) back then it unilaterally expanded its territory southwards; that looks to need some adjustment . This seems to go it’s natural way, towards a territorial-politcal solution.

        5) All the above can not substitute/replace the responsibility of Eritrean/Ethiopian governments towards their own citizens.

        Thanks

  • Nitricc

    Hi AT sorry can’t read because you are ruining the web-sight by picturing some five years old drowning. I mean hate the guy and whatever but the picture cheapens your web-sight and degrades your intelligence.

    • Saleh Johar

      Nitricc,
      A picture is worth 100 words, in our case a 1,000,000 words. Do you say the same if it was a flower necklace? Listen to some Helen songs and you will feel okay 🙂

    • Selam Nitricc,

      They say a picture is worth a 1,000 words, in our case a 1,000,000 words. Do you say the same if it was a flower necklace? How would you feel if you listen to some Helen songs? Please try that and share your feeling.

    • Hello AT,

      I am perplexed as to why my comment to Nitric was deleted. If it was done deliberately, I am afraid it only stunts the growth of you and progress of the very cause you are championing. Short of a respectful response from you I will understand it to mean that you are burring you head in the sand instead of you confronting the glaring issues, your short comings to go along with your pluses. It may be you AT that is causing the lack of interest on Eritrea by Eritreans. Were you afraid of the message and content of my composition? My composition can easily be reproduced, no worries.

      tSAtSE

    • Amanuel

      Hi Nitricc
      Have you heard the proverb goes “the proof is in the pudding.”

    • Haile WM

      Hey Nitriccay,

      can you help me please ? I think we have a pending issue you and me 🙂
      When will be Iseya’s interview ? I mean the second part interview ?
      your predictions about political prisoners being freed and a second part interview from Issu by new year are long past due…

      Cheers

      • Nitricc

        Hi Haile; it is his last dance and he taking his time. he wanted it to be a big pang. There is no a single reason to keep the prisoners and not to go forward with country’s political business. This best time and the right way for PIA to exit with dignity intact and with sense of mission accomplished. I also think PIA will release the prisoners with out a funfair. you know like one person this week and next person next week. he will do it very quietly.

        • Ismail AA

          Selam Nitricc,

          Given your insinuation proves true, how long do you think it would take him at the rate you mentioned? The man is breathing in his time of the last quarter of his life. The rate of release of prisoners you have cited would add up to serve him to complete his years as ruler for life.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Ismail; regarding to how long will be depending the people’s reaction. PIA going to weigh carefully the Eritrean people reaction. if there is a strong united demand for change or reform by Eritreans, then, it sooner. However; if it is like the past 18 years and there is no demand then he will die in power. Right now he is laid back and testing the waters and weighing the reactions. If PIA doesn’t take advantage of this life time opportunity then I am afraid won’t end well for him. The Eritrean people are ready to move on.

          • Ismail AA

            Selam Nitricc,
            Fair view though I really doubt this guy has cells in his mind that react to what the people say and feel.

        • Haile S.

          Nitricc,
          I know your response was for meKusi-WM. Let me say few words.
          Meaning they receive quadruple injustice.
          – Imprisonment without charge
          – Unfair prolonged incommunicado imprisonment
          – No day in court to face their accusers
          – No fanfare! Even a vacationer deserves one!

          • Nitricc

            Hi Haile; there is more to it. They wasted their whole life to create a country where the country will put them for good. Very sad. Time to push all the way.

        • Haile WM

          hello Nitriccay,

          I like your optimism and the faith you have on the guy, but i’m afraid you will be disappointed. His motives were personal power, and still his only drive is personal power, he does not care about prisoners nor the well being of the country/people.
          unless he is forced he will not do anything to change the situation.

          anyways, i like your optimism.
          Cheers