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Major Dawit Invites Me to Dr. Abiy’s Addition Class

If there is anything Eritreans and Ethiopians (and beyond) agree upon, it is the fact that PM Abiy has stirred a seemingly calm sea. Undoubtedly he has inspired many people—he even made the stiff Isaias giggle and behave like a teenager. Of course, he has embarked in a grand scheme of adding anyone to his mesmerizing love-mix, and his aggressive quest for limitless peace has already created losers and winners defeating his “Medemer (addition)” formula, where his addition has become a subtraction, at least on the surface, kicking out some Eritreans and some Ethiopians. What an outcome for such a grand undertaking. So far, the oppressed Eritreans have lost round one and they reckon it is time for a rebound. And sadly, people of goodwill are anxious, thinking about the loss, which, unless mitigated, might drive Eritreans and Ethiopians back to the station they departed from almost sixty years ago.

It is mindboggling to see forces that wreaked havoc in the lives of the two peoples being applauded as peacemaker while those who have been promoting peace and stability, at great costs, being portrayed as anti-peace forces. Also, sadly, it has reached to a point where my friend Major Dawit Woldegiorgis, in his article of June 28, 2018, entitled “The Moment of Truth for Eritrea and Ethiopia” urged me and “[my] colleagues and other oppositions to the Eritrean government [to] see this as an opportunity for change [from] within.” Basically, Major Dawit is asking me to add (Medemer) myself to the mix. Unfortunately, I do not fancy elementary one-digit additions; I am preoccupied with my own seven-digit addition exercise.

My record, calling for peace and reconciliation, is well established and over the years I have stated my views clearly, repeatedly, and insistently. Incidentally, I have stated it in a detailed speech in San Jose six-years ago when I first met Major Dawit face to face. I still hold to those views, and I hope he and his many colleagues, the irritating elite, who believe they have a divine mandate to lord over the two countries, would consider my points which I will explain here for the umpteenth time:

The Abyssinian Factor

I am afraid that most Ethiopian elites have no clue about Eritreans whom they have been deafening with their superficial “and hzb nen (we are one people)” empty slogan. Disappointingly, what they consider as Eritrea is only its Abyssinians component (Habesha): Tigrinya speaking, Tewahdo professing, Kebessa dwelling. Though a Habesha myself, surprisingly, in their minds I am not included in that fold except as an appendage because I was not born to a family that doesn’t have the only worthy identity traits they recognize.

Historically, Habesha covered the Eritrean, Tigrayan, and Amhara highlands—it is narrowly defined as the domain of the ancient Axumite kingdom. However, due to historical developments, particularly since the “Solomonic dynasty” took over the reigns of power in Gondar, a topic so vast to be addressed here, that identity became narrowly associated with the Amharic and Tigrinya speakers of the region before it became even narrower to exclude some chunks off the stock. Today, while half of the Eritrean population do not identify themselves as Habesha, a big portion of the Habesha Eritreans are offended if identified as Habesha, because the PFDJ has inculcated the hate for the term, and they claim they are “Eritreans, not Habesha.” They even have T-Shirts displaying that negation. It’s so sad they have given up their identity because they abhor sharing it with the “Weyane” who have been at war with them since 1998.

Similarly, the non-Habesha Eritreans consider it an insult by the elite who would rather have them melt down into the Habesha, or worse, be treated as second-class citizens in their own country. That I know deeply because I was born and raised in a town that is considered a microcosm of Eritrea, my psyche belongs to there, and I know enough about the Eritrean layers of identities. So, I think it will be wise for the Ethiopian elite to abandon the racist Habesha-centric campaigning.

Major Dawit’s statement illustrated my point: he stated he was “in the Sudan where there are hundreds of thousands of Eritrean and Ethiopian refugees. They are one and they call themselves ‘habeshas’. I established the Eritrean and Ethiopian Association of Refugees so that it should make it easier for them to get funds and also enable them to protect their rights as refugees.”

Undoubtedly, I can surmise from the above there was not a single non-Habesha in the association he established. As he has clearly illustrated, his fixation, like the rest of the irritating elite, is Habesha-centric.

Tired of Repeating This

Throughout history, the bloodshed, violence, enslavement, and oppression were conducted by, and were a result of inter-Habesha elite feud and rivalry. The ordinary Habesha and non-Habesha alike had to pay the heavy price for the adventures of the Ethiopian warlords and those who inherited their hegemonic aspirations. Therefore, recognizing that fact and diligently working to bring a closure to it will go a long way towards reconciliation. Call it computing as opposed to elementary addition.

Major Dawit often explains his stay in Eritrea, his love escapades, and his career as a soldier, in a very sentimental way. However, he never wrote an honest appraisal of the atrocities that were committed on Eritreans, about the gruesome stuff I witnessed since early childhood. Certainly, atrocities and oppression don’t happen in a vacuum, but through agents who execute them. I will like to remind Major Dawit who the agents were: In the past, they were the king’s and the Derg’s men with guns, soldiers who torched dozens of villages, killed and displaced tens of thousands of people who are still languishing in refugee camps in The Sudan, Yemen, and Ethiopia. In the present, it is his friends, the PFDJ, who have imprisoned thousands of people and caused the exile of hundreds of thousands and are relentlessly wreaking havoc all over the place. I wish the elite could remember all of that—it’s the secret to understand the psyche of Eritreans who yearn for a closure but are insulted instead.

A few vocal elements like me buying into the retail arithmetic of addition cannot solve anything unless the refugees, the exiled, and the prisoners are added in numbers more than a few digits–when you add salt in a dish, you don’t add individual grains separately, you add it in bulk. Therefore, I would subscribe to Dr. Abiy’s addition arithmetic, when it becomes mathematics and helps in adding Eritreans in their own country—that will be the challenging math of adding in seven digits, and it will be an all-encompassing science. Worse, adding an embarrassing tyrant to the mix, a man who keeps subtracting tens of thousands of Eritreans every day, is not appealing.

I think Major Dawit should appreciate the distance his country has traveled since 1991. That journey, with all its shortcomings, is an impressive trip that has paved the way for Ethiopia to have a leader like Dr. Abiy. It is a journey that enabled parties to compete and assert their ballot box muscles, and it is one that allowed Ethiopians to debate their affairs freely, to demonstrate and express themselves, and it has enabled the prime minister to free prisoners and bring back exiles in droves. Disappointingly, Major Dawit, could not even shyly mention in comparison, the tragedy that Eritreans are subjected to under his friends, the PFDJ. He doesn’t express a word of compassion in solidarity with the suffering Eritreans while he displays superficial agonies over the lack of unity between Eritreans and Ethiopians, a unity for which his wishes lavishly flow like a wild beehive honey. For instance, Major Dawit worked closely with Petros Solomon in the eighties. Now his old friend Petros is languishing in jail together with his wife–did the Major entertain the idea of adding Petros in the Medemer exercise? I say that because I am not in prison and I can always add myself anytime I wish.

Just Emotions, Unjust Emotions

It is disheartening to see the elite urging the people to switch off their suffering-sensors so that they can be added in the one-digit arithmetic. Just disappointing.

In a shocking finger slip, Major Dawit writes, “What Ethiopians and Eritreans were waiting for was the right leadership.” I wonder why it is put in the past tense! For Eritreans, it should be in the present continuous tense. How can one forget Eritreans ARE still waiting for the right leadership!

Change in Ethiopian leadership doesn’t necessarily translate to change in the Eritrean leadership, even if the tyrant seemed to unilaterally delegate his dictatorship rights to Dr. Abiy, who gleefully accepted the offer! But regardless, I truly believe that positive changes in Ethiopia could become a catalyst and have a domino effect on Eritrean. I just wish the Ethiopian elite would be thrifty with their pontification and stop sabotaging the Eritrean struggle for normalcy, good governance, and yes, peace, with Ethiopia and every other country–Eritreans need to reconcile their books that are all in red, and that is their own mathematical exercise.

The fear that, “the accumulating anger would eventually explode and lead to [another 30-year war”, though expressed in a different context, will happen if the elite does not correct its approach to Eritrea and stop considering it a Habeshaland whose only significance is the prized Red Sea coast. The major missed that Eritrea more than that and veils the fact that the governments under which he served have tried, “a different approach both politically and militarily.” In fact, they tried all possible methods. Subjecting Eritreans to another adventurous cycle is just cruel. And I still do not understand how he can absolve his ally Isaias Afwerki and his Ethiopian foes for subjecting the region to a very unnecessary war that cost too many lives and put the two countries on a permanent state of war for over 20 years.” I suppose Major Dawit respects court rulings access to which is a click away—clear and not in finetext.

If someone fights against himself, he is either insane or it’s a surreal incident; like a tango, fighting takes at least two. Yes, “the Weyane wanted [the border war],” but the major conveniently forgot the PFDJ boss wanted that as well–the major’s one-eyed spectacles worries me a lot.

It’s dangerous to attempt a rewriting of history when one seems to agonize over the violent past: “the two people have been one and need to be one for more than one reason.” That rings hegemonic—why does the major reject the Weyane and at the same time salivate to embrace the PFDJ? There is a clear double-standard, and knots that he needs to entangle. I say that because he writes, “We have to work very closely with our Eritrean brothers and sisters to get rid of Woyane and establish a new era of peaceful co existence, common prosperity that will lead to a reunion of our people.”

Getting rid of Weyane is an Ethiopian affair; why would Eritreans be tasked with getting rid of Weyane when they have not been able to remove their own monster who is walking all over them? Don’t Eritreans deserve to be spared from getting involved in the never-ending Habesha elite rivalry? And it always has to end with a punchline: the reunion thing. The closure comes first, and reconciliation comes next—the hegemony that the elite advocates for in the guise of reconciliation, is misleading, is destructive, and therefore, as always, it is rejected.

Now that Isaias is all giggles because of the life jacket that Dr. Abiy threw at him, Major Dawit can promote the old idea that he, the Cohens, The Brutons, and the other dellalas were peddling for too long, to have Isaias, “take over the whole of Ethiopia with Eritrea [because] Ethiopians will accept [him as their leader of a united country and my colleagues and myself will immediately change our organization in support of this.”  They all hold Ethiopians in a very low esteem.

If I didn’t see the major’s favorable demeanor first hand, I would have characterized his description, “Mr. Saleh Gadih Johar who is opposed to Isayiyas and has been close to Meles for sometime…”, was a  sly remark. At least he got the first part of the sentence right; yes, I am opposed to “Isayiyas”, and any tyrant for that matter, but I wish the major can provide some evidence that I was close to Meles Zenawi? But it is alright, he might have had the urge to appear all-knowing—and that jab earns him a few points in PFDJ land.

At any rate, if I had “scathing remarks for what [he] have said and [have]have not.” I would like to bring to his attention that there is nothing he hasn’t said—his views are aligned with the tyrant of Eritrea at the expense of the Eritrean struggle for justice and to end the predicament of Eritreans, and usher peace. Obviously, he belongs to a group that is so obsessed with “Aand Etiopya”, that thinks of Eritrea as a real-estate with a beach font—regardless of its people who do not appear in his radar except their Habesha portion. Freedom loving, peace-loving and free-spirited Eritreans do not see it the way he does. In fact, the way he sees it is appalling, disrespectful, and a psychological aggression. Such messages of divide and rule were perfected by his successive governments, and by his ally, and it is rejected by the Eritreans I described above. Major Dawit’s type of Abyssinian elite are to blame, and the evidence is right in his article—it is one dimensional for a man who expresses his love for Eritreans and his knowledge about their country; it seems he missed the opportunity to study the social makeup of Eritreans and focused on vanities.

The Kind of Peace We Dream Of

Finally, I would like to reiterate that the peace I envision is not a “chercharo”, retail peace only focusing on trade and travel–that is a natural outcome of a just and lasting peace, not a cause. Eritreans, (with the exception of the chauvinists, the enablers of tyranny, and the narrow-minded)  are all for a peaceful coexistence peace and every Ethiopian needs to rest assured. And I have personally advocated for peace at a great cost, taking merciless blows by the hypocrites who are now trying hard to portray themselves as peaceful doves. That is why I do not take any peace preaching or condescending, paternalist remarks from anyone. However, the terms of peace that I envision are an all-inclusive, and agreed upon between free citizens, through their duly elected representatives, not by their tormentor.

Anyone can go ahead and make peace with our oppressor, but don’t expect us to naively ride the wagon or cheer from the sides or allow ourselves to be added as one-digit numbers. I cry for genuine peace among the people and one that practices a wholesale addition. I or my colleagues do not allow anyone to overbid us on our commitment to peace and its pursuit—we have suffered enough not to fully envision what peace feels like though it has eluded us for a long, long time,

As we speak, Eritreans who preoccupy the bleeding hearts of the Ethiopian elite are perishing in high seas and deserts. The remaining Eritreans are either silently dying a slow death or languishing in prisons. Eritrea, with all its components, is suffering and Major Dawit seems to be obsessed with the dream of the imperial hegemonic “Aand Etiopya.”

Related readings

  1. The Moment of Truth for Eritrea and Ethiopia (By Major Dawit Woldegiorgis, June 28, 2018)
  2. Dawit Woldegiorgis, More of Red Tears (By Saleh “Gadi” Johar, July 2, 2009)
  3. What Ethiopian Eritrean Friendship (By Saleh “Gadi” Johar, March 26, 2011)

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  • AMAN

    Greetings
    .
    Dear Awotes participants
    .
    I always wonder if you all are in your right minds and senses when you put comments here and when you think that
    these two dictatorship parties Pfdj and
    Tplf of the late 90’s and early 00’s were
    more against you and the other ethiopian peoples than their own & the
    Tigrigna people and region that they have
    made the epicenter of conflict and crisis using their livelihoods and homelands as borders and border crises to advance war and control.
    Why do you all parrot and repeat what the two enemies of the Tigrigna people and Tigrina Homeland fabricated and set in motion ?
    Are you trying to do your part on our people again what has been done for 20 + years by the two corrupt and defunct
    anti Tigrigna people organizations ?
    I can’t help my self being amused and shocked when I see some people rushing
    to destroy others and destroy themselves
    also simultaneously. That is so silly if not
    outright stupid that calls for full condemnation by everyone.

  • Mitiku Melesse

    Hei Abdulworld.
    Are you saying you wrote only others view of tplf?

  • iSem

    George: my turn to educate u
    some of these are true, maybe true, but Ethiopia did not collapsed because it was denied Asseb. It may have created bottle necks as population swelled and it may need it to further expand, but it did not disintegrate as ur dictator anticipated ?

  • Girum Mersha

    Your opinon about being Habesha or not,needs to be reviewed. I think the Amhara elites dont care anymore about it .Then on the issue of tplf you dont seem to have any idea what is tplf to all Ethiopian groups. So my conclusion is that,this article would have been perfect some 28 years ago.

  • Mitiku Melesse

    Hei, ya sure, that kind of very trivial incidence couldnt be spin by the toothless oppositions either. This peace agreement brings only goodies.

  • Mitiku Melesse

    Hei, Ayneta. I think it is easy. First we get rid of our paranoia, phobia, generalization, etc. Second what you call them the highlanders of yours and their family in Ethiopia are in war. The peace agreement you see now is with rest of Ethiopians. The tigrians in Ethiopia boycotted the peace agreement.

    The afar lowlanders are happy because the tag eri-afar, ethio-afar, ethio-kunama, eri kunama are imposed on them. One people two countries helps them to live in peace and develop their country what they call it Afar and Kunama respectively. They couldnt declare war against two giants to lead their normal life. Now they dont care where the virtual line goes across their land. As long as the virtual line is not made of 400 thousands soldiers with eri ethio tag and their destructive weapons. Ethio-Kunama and Ethio-Afar are not Christians. They are Muslims.

  • abdulworld

    Hello Saleh,
    I believe this is a thoughtful article and it makes some strong case.
    I believe you are pointing the important reality of average Eritrean has not changed.
    I think most realistic Eritrean realize the Eritrean leadership doesn’t care about them. However, after 20+ years of hellish experience Eritrean have a small shadow to avoid the burning sun.
    I am saying Eritrean around the world have a brief relief from isolated madness of their government.

    In terms of Ethiopian elite their Habesha prism. It makes no sense to ask them to forget about it or call “I think it will be wise for the Ethiopian elite to abandon the racist Habesha-centric campaigning”

    I believe there was an article by Sal Younis about Chinese being “Civilization-State” Ethiopia fits that same model I believe.

    The Amhara see themselves similar light as Han Chinese as the preserver of Ethiopian/habesha identity or civilization… the reality is that Amhara perceive themselves as preserver of main elements of Aksumite civilization with Christian variety from 1370-1991. That is 600 years.

    In the modern variety is expressed thru Ethiopian-ism…
    The fact Aksum civilization main area was in Eritrea and a little part of Ethiopia doesn’t matter and fact the Aksum civilization started as non-christian or muslim society is not important to them.

    What is relevant to them is that they are preserver and promoter of that civilization is important.
    Beside losing political and economical power- I believe what irk most the Amhara elite during the TPLF based government ascendancy lose of focus on Ethiopian-ism. The amhara elite will follow any leader of any ethnic background as long as that leader promotes a variety of Ethiopianism the favor… in the same way as Han chinese will follow any leader of any background as long they maintain the chinese hanism…

    In terms of your so-called friendship with Major Dawit- I think you are political veteran who knows in politics the only thing permanent is interests and never friendship.

    So for Issias and Major what brings them together is not any friendship but common interest which has nothing to do with Eritrean and Ethiopian people. Both of them- have mutual dislike for TPLF leadership.
    Why do you think he went out his way to emphasize that you are “close to Meles.”

    • Blink

      Dear said
      I think it would be unfair to paint all Amhara as such of Ato Dawit . It is a mistake that you know well when someone insults whole circle. For example, let me say you saw a news about someone killing people by planting a bomb , guess what you think about the responsibile person doing that . I am sure most Amhara people don’t care about Habesha in connection to Eritrea. Trust the new generation, the average age of Ethiopians is 30 , just saying .

      • abdulworld

        Hello Blink,
        My comments were with regards to school thought that elite of Major D. sort comes from..
        I don’t understand your bomb analogy or comment. Again I am not talking about average amhara person.
        I personally don’t use the word Habesha to describe anything.. I either say Ethiopian or Eritrean.
        The only time I have heard the word Habesh used heavily and regularly was as child in Sudan to describe Ethiopian and Eritrean refugee and it wasn’t a term of endearment.
        In terms of under 30 majority population I don’t word has much relevance.. word like Abyssinian one probably has to google.
        In terms of lowlander Eritrean- I think the future within the Eritrean narrative is very bleak which is unfortunate since there would be no Eritrea without them.

    • Abi

      Hi abdulworld
      You said ” the Amhara elites will follow any leader of any ethnic background as long as the leader promotes a variety of ethiopianism..”
      Oh boy! Is this a bad thing? What is your problem with this statement of yours?
      Are you still in a basement somewhere at Cairo university?

    • Mitiku Melesse

      Hei, and you tell us that all peoples of Ethiopia and Eritrea must love tplf for liberating us and enjoy life for 27 years. All the atrocity said about tplf includding what Younis said is also fiction. The war, the hunger, the corruption, the ethnic hate, ethnic war, Tigray first, tigray control the economy, the military, the security are all fictional.

      Dont you think the love for tplf you have may affect your judgment? Do you know that it is not fair less than 5 million from one ethnic group control the economy, the military, the security, even orthodox religion?

      • Daniel

        Dere Mitiku with due respect I don’t think you have read the article fully or you are missing the gist. I strongly advise you to read it over and over again until you get the point. Thank you.

        • Mitiku Melesse

          hei, danie,
          I read what Abdulworld said very well if you you mean article the comment Abdul wrote.

      • Mitiku Melesse

        Hei.
        Hei is salutation.

    • Saleh Johar

      Hi Abdolworld,
      Me saying my friend Dawit shouldn’t be taken literally because i also said i talked to him over the phone a couple of times only and I met him at a conference once. I don’t think that makes us friends in the way you seem to think.. So,I do not have so-called or other type of friendship with him,, It was my way of putting it nicely.

      Thank you for the comment

  • Saba

    Selamat All,
    This article is timid and is trying to revive the ever-going Habesha identity crisis instead of addressing directly the current “ethio-Eri hade hizbi but two countries” deal.
    Some are worried about Eritrean territory sovereignty. And the ZaEGol predictors are worried about the ring, the Kaba and PIA’s “you will lead us” giddiness.
    I am not worried about Eritrean territory sovereignty. Dr AAA is a populist and might cause harm to the Eritrean people and culture to benefit the greater Ethiopia. I am worried about the Eritrean economic sovereignty. I am worried about the Eritrean politico-social sovereignty. The PIA gov does not have the skills to negotiate with the young, fresh and quick Dr. AAA gov. The Sewra experence can’t match the 2018 Abiy’s medemer populism. We have already seen the unprepared PIA speeches in ethiopia. They have already started to buy 20% of the Eritrean airline. BUY LOW Eritrea! Every negotiation, about the ports, trade deal will be BUY LOW. They will infiltrate every aspect of our life like a disseminated metastasis. We are ill equipped. Government policies, national security will be infiltrated. Our politics will be infiltrated. If we are going to have a multiparty system, most of the parties will be in the image of Dr.AAA and the benefit will be mostly to the mother Ethiopia. Another BUY LOW! Most Eri culture will be supplanted with the Ethio culture. Don’t worry, most songs in Eritrea will be in Amharic and the few tigrigna songs will be mixed with Amharic. It will be market driven:)
    This all problems can prevented if the PIA gov upholds the Constitution, allow free elections and is open for reform with young and skilled Eritrean citizens(excluding some already sold elites).

    • ‘Gheteb

      Hi Saba,

      I think your note is oozing with contradictions.

      On the one hand, you are saying:

      ” If we are going to have a multiparty system, most of the parties will be in the image of Dr.AAA and the benefit will be mostly to the mother Ethiopia”.

      On the other hand, you are requesting that:

      ” This all problems can prevented if the PIA gov upholds the Constitution, allow free elections and is open for reform with young and skilled Eritrean citizens”.

      So, which one is it?

      On the other OTHER hand, you are telling us that:

      ” The PIA gov does not have the skills to negotiate with the young, fresh and quick Dr. AAA gov. The Sewra experence can’t match the 2018 Abiy’s medemer populism. We have already seen the unprepared PIA speeches in ethiopia. They have already started to buy 20% of the Eritrean airline”.

      Now, then, tell me who have kept Eritrea intact in the past 20 years facing all the conspiracies? I don’t think those “young and skilled” Eritreans with their TOWERING egos were the responsible parties for Eritrea, PFDJ or PIA to emerge triumphant.

      Again, tell me who negotiated the best deal with Nevsun Mining? The same PFDJ with only “the Sewra experience” or is it someone else?

      • Now inc.

        ‘Gheteb,
        1) Eritrea hasn’t been kept intact in the past 20 years (since 1998). It lost large chunk of land in 2000. Ethiopia voluntarily returned half of it (Tesenei, Sen’Afe…) with the other half (Badme and environs) is still under Ethiopia. Human loss is even bigger. 20K perished over the period of 2 years and x number of that amount fled the country. You may remember the courageous bishop’s “where is your brother” ringing alarm from the belly of the beast. So unless your definition of “intact” is the color of our flag is still the same as it was 20 years ago, Eritrea has lost big.

        2) we the public have no idea what the deal with the Nevsun deal is. We don’t know the terms, we don’t know the output, we don’t know the revenue, we don’t know which party holds how much share. All of these are treated like top military secrete. We know Bisha and its surrounding is depleting fast and turning into Africa’s biggest pit due to high volume extraction. What we are not seeing is the result or benefit to Eritrea. Water and electricity are as scarce, if not more as they were before bisha, Italy-era asphalt roads are rapidly deteriorating and becoming dirt roads, commodity is high and dry, inflation is bad. You tell me why you believe “the best deal” was negotiated.

        • David Samson

          Selam inc.
          The Nevsun deal is one worst business deals I have seen so far. The owner of the commodity-mining- is the “Minority Holder”. Nevsun is a Canadian company, trading on Canadian stock exchange. As a public company, it must make its accounts “Public”. If my memory serves me right, the initial deal was 30/70 and then went up to 40/60. But, is still a minority holding. Despite GOE’s efforts to hide its share of revenue received, it is not difficult to work out it from the accounts. I think there are few articles regarding Nevsun on this site.

          • FishMilk

            Hi David Samson. Buses and planes are now moving between Eritrea and Ethiopia, prisoners are getting released, Eritrea’s military is withdrawing from contested border areas, etc. AND you now wish to talk about Nevsun ? LOL.

          • Blink

            Dear David
            Actually 30/70 is even higher than most African mining agreements but to make 40 is too much for any investor. Remember a country with less government hand do better. As a private company Nevsun has the right to do whatever it wishes , the main goal for nevsun is to make money for its shareholders. The company will get its rightful share price once this new wind of peace gets its base. You better buy some instead of making Outlandish claims about it.

          • David Samson

            Hi Blink,

            Despite you are all over the places, there is one thing
            which I found about you sticks: you are an Atheist. That is all.

            Please have some values and be consistent. There is nothing wrong for supporting a cause you believe in;though, I doubt one.

          • FishMilk

            Hi David Samson. Now how would you know that about Blink since Discus shows that you enrolled and started posting 3 days ago?

          • David Samson

            Hi FM,
            Does this mean that I have not been following the discussion on this site as a reader only?
            A clue is on my post. Nevsun’s articles written by Awate team.
            I also know who you are, but I do not like to comment or write about the “person”.

          • FishMilk

            Hi David Samson. Of course, it makes perfect sense to linger on the sidelines for some time as an observer, and then suddenly start to make comments. Where was it that we last met? Asmat, Melebso or Halhal?

          • David Samson

            Hi FM,

            No-one has denied or put me in on the side-line. It is my choice to leave or join in a discussion forum. There is no thing “Sudden” about it.

            By the way, why IA did not show up on your old friend- Girma Asmerom(RIP) funeral? Was not he his right-hand man?
            If I can answer my question, my guess would be: he either was not in the country, or busy with other more important things.

          • Blink

            Dear David
            Here ,what I am saying is 30% is enough for the government and if they have the option to buy 10% it is not bad but it will not be good for investment . there are mining companies in Africa who owns 85% of the business with less tax and the state lose big money on different loopholes. Now where do I say anything about atheism? Are you becoming an idiot of your own just like Addis Disco guy .what did you claim except googling for many white men quotes? What are you good at ? Making lies ?

    • Abi

      Hi Saba
      I like you to know that I really enjoy your comments spiced up with loads of sarcasm.
      Beautiful!

    • abdulworld

      Hello Saba,
      Take it easy. The sky is falling. Your agreement sounds like Eritrean government propaganda. I remember during their border skirmish.. alot of Eritrean were on side of crazy government.. yelling the Ethiopian are coming to take out country away and they don’t want an independent Eritrea..
      The bogeyman was used for many years by Eritrean government to crash any criticism..
      Now the bogeyman is back again…
      For majority of Ethiopian- Eritrea is not that important. Every Ethiopian interaction is not a existence and no-existence situation.
      If Eritrean culture can easily be supplanted because the border is opens… that means we don’t have much of culture..
      As long as Ethiopian can get a cheap port which is not used by the way… they don’t care much of Eritrean mess.
      Majority Ethiopian are content with good neighborly trade… they got enough problems in their own country to trying to take over another…

    • Mitiku Melesse

      Hei, Saba.
      What is the right thing the PM must have done concerning the peace agreement? What kind of peace agreement he must have as Ethiopian leader? What kind of poltics he shoul have with Eritrea? You know what kind of policy tplf government has for Eritrea.

  • Blink

    Dear all

    Cry them a river and just sit tight and watch .Did you want the people to get released or wanted them to stay there so that other people can write in the COI report and get for their lost bragging rights ? There are people who wanted to the prisoners to stay there so that they can write endless articles while sitting in the UN dignitaries with their name written in front of them by that increase their popularity by the day . Some people are deeply disappointed with their old plan and they played their new plan on the new young men who come to their disposable by penetrating the M.sea and go all the way to western cities by paying great amount of money leaving their families in debt. Now these old guys seems not happy with the new dance of the Ethiopian PM and DIA . One has to ask why are these old guys not happy? We know why they are not happy and one best answer is that they did not drag the sadistic leader in Godena Harnet by his legs smoking head on the ground. They have been making lies about EPLF for the past 50 years and yet they have very short hand to play . These we see them talking about religious rights , group rights , power by affirmative action even some going far making a mini state called Afar state , kunama state and many states . Now the game is being played in front of their eyes but they can do nothing and that motionless situation makes them not great full . I feel so happy to see their plan get crushed while waiting to see Eritrea with out Issaias and that day i mean only that day I will buy my air ticket to Eritrea.

    • ‘Gheteb

      Hi Blink,

      You are right that line of business of peddling the “plight of the Eritrean prisoners” and so called human rights issues has been what Ghezae Hagos and birds of a feather have been involved in for the past two decades.

      I have just offered him an unsolicited advice to find another line of business and I can tell he got nothing to counter my arguments with, but I can even sense it remotely that he is utterly gone APOPELECTIC and is indignantly MIFFED.

      What a bunch of losers! They seem like they are having a hard time to accept defeat.

  • Abraham H.

    Selam Awatistas, there is one thing, among many things that is worth noting about PM Abyi. We have seen him speaking very passionately about people’s human rights; even he was taking deep self -incrimination in the Ethiopian parliament by saying the eprdf was indeed committing acts of terrorism by holding people in dark prison rooms, etc. Yet, we have witnessed how the same PM recieved and treated one of the world’s worst human rights abusers, DIA. This is hypocrisy at its worst!!

    • Amde

      Selam Abraham H.

      Is it possible to find something nice to say about PMAAA on this particular day? When we are awash with news of prisoner releases and long-separated family reunions?
      Do you think the prisoner releases are just random co-incidences? Is it possible last weekend’s schmoozing between Abiy and Isayyas led to teary hugs in Asmara today?

      Isayyas could very well put everybody back in jail tomorrow. But that is a hypothetical. Today is a joyful day for many many families.

      Amde

      • iSem

        Hi Amde:
        You ask two question and I answer
        Ethiopia proved that it can grow without Asseb It did not wither away because of Asseb was off limits. Now PMMA, shallow, superficial plagiarized rhetoric among his mostly illiterate population and buoyed by dictaaaatorshi in the North he has ascended to sky and he will even soar higher but my guess is like Abiye will meet the fat of Icarus, a Greek god who was so confident to fly closer to the sun on wings of feathers and wax and fell to his demise when his wax melted
        And why are families happy is that because they flew to little Rome? And these little gains are dangerous for Eritrea’s aspriation of rule of law. Some ppl think this is the beginning ,but the if you embark on a journey from to the east, how can that journey becomes the start of a journeny to a destination in the the North: meaning the peace road is unrelated to the rule of law and human right road. PMAA is doing it for security reasons and IA will provide that, this is De javu, TPLF in 1991 was in intense love affair with IA at the expense of Eritreans. Since PMAA is purging the old guard he needs IA to have his back and his back IA will have. All is glamor, a fad
        Uninstitutionalized deal, made on the spot “you can go to Asseb, Massaw and Emni Hajjer without permission IA told to the smiling Abiye
        On the name of peace Ethiopia is gambling the future of rule of law in Eritrea. What will PMAA do with the refuges, the opposition who could not go to Eriterea, radio wogahata etc. If IA slaughters the opposition like he did in 1991, their blood will be on PMAA hands, the same way a lot of Eri blood is on TPLF’s hands. But as Horizon said, it is up to the Eritreans to solve their problems

        • Berhe Y

          Dear iSem and Smde,

          So you think the recent development will hinder the struggle against IA? Or does it benefit? I asked this to saay, but may be he didn’t notice.

          It’s not either or but I think it would be nice if we could do some analysis and find out.

          In my opinion I think the benefits outweigh than the loss. For example, the case of National service can possibly be a game changer.

          The case of Eritreans who the west may not accept their refugee claim, may trigger and become a catalyst for the young to find solution inside the country rather than running away.

          I saw a video today, of a paster preaching right outside the airport and how people have gathered to see him, video record him, and even people stopped their cars, taxi to watch him. This would be unheard off in the ore- PMAA Eritrea but, from what it looks like, what ever symptoms Amde and saay think, Eritreans have appears that they have defeated it:).

          Berhe

          • iSem

            Hi BY:
            It depends how intact the Eritrean sensibility that sparked the armed struggle is (not intact in the physical sense that Gheteb believes). it depends how much IA and PFDJ damaged it. From what I can tell, he has damaged it so much that when he alone makes deals, starts wars with Yemen , Djubiti, Sudan and disappears founding fathers without conquennces. In a real country IA should have been shot/toppled the moment he arrested the founding fathers and kids. So the money will help him become stronger and to transfer power to his son. Money is the means, he could arrest Philpos and bring new one and the recycling will continues. If he does not make real reforms and in 6 month nothing happens to his regime and him, it is over, tyranny will be entrenched and ppl will get used to it. We cannot free ourself with opportunism and prayers and positive thinking and the reality is staring us right in the eye.
            Do not be fooled by the lies prisoners are released. Yes changes are coming but not the changes that we want, but the PFDJ and it minions will sell it like that

          • Berhe Y

            Dear iSem,

            So instead of blaming PMAA, Ethiopia and others, I think it’s up to us to ask, here is where we are? What are we suppose to do now?

            We sound the PFDJ minons who use to blame weyane for everything under the sun that went wrong in Eritrea. Constitution, freedom of movement, national service, rule of law, permit to build homes, permit to open business, all they answered NO. because of weyane, cia, UN and sanctions.

            I think there is misunderstanding. For example I think the recent changes are positive for Eritrean to strength the struggle against IA, and I gave you example, like the demobilization of the youth, allowing access for the people to travel in / out of the country etc.

            When I said the change is positive for the struggle against IA, you seem to understand me, as if I said, IA will change and he will bring positive change for the country. NO far from it, I never expected anything positive to come from IA willingly. Even the changes and the peace he made with PMAA, I believe he did so because he was cornered and FORCED to accept, when the opportunity presented it. PMAA, check mate him, by declaring Ethiopia will accept the boarder ruling and will implement fully.

            The people are not waiting for him to make change but they will demand it, and when he is cornered he will act. Every small change will add up to make a big change that will eventually take him out. And that’s what we should focus, I think.

            Berhe

          • Peace!

            Hi Berhino,

            Good points, thank you. When change happens, the first question for both sides should be how can I turn it into my advantage? Blaming others is simply lack of purpose and direction. Eritreans have failed to form a united opposition and defeat DIA even when he was isolated and weak. Now, it is time to evaluate and come up with new strategy because giving up is not an option.

            Peace!

          • David Samson

            Selam Berhe,

            SAAY is probably well versed in “Totalitarian systems” and knows the perils of trying to read the mind and move of the “Dear leader”.

            Let’s say, I predict IA is going to release some prisoners. His supports will say, why are you so gloom and doom? Should not you thankful to IA for his bold move?

            If I predict the opposite, well, they might say, “The Dear leader” has “Beating them at their Own Game”; the oppositions are hopeless and doomed. Viva ISU- the visionary leader. On either case, I can’t win. IA has all Cards in his sleeve and we have none. It is uneven level-playing field and unequal match.

        • Amde

          Selam iSem,

          It seems you are asking me to find the highest of high horses and start. a counter-rant.

          Is it an Eritrean thing that every problem is caused by Ethiopians, that every Ethiopian good act must be condemned, that every opportunity opened by Ethiopia is not good enough?

          Don’t worry – I deleted the rant. I mean Ethiopians are not gonna die for you. History suggests the ending of the IA regime needs blood to spill or his graduation to the beyond. Eritreans have de-facto collectively decided they would rather outlive him than die trying. Abiy is closing a chapter in Ethiopian history, but I don’t know why you don’t see the big opportunity opened for you by its closing. IA’s regime will have a hard time dealing with normalcy. It is up to you to use it. But of course it is easier to find a reason to bash the thousand and one ways one finds Abiy disagreeable.

          Please – continue – you are doing just fine.

          Amde

          • iSem

            Hi Amde: the fever is burning u, and that is sad. sad cus physical burns can be healed but the burn to ur once impeccable logic will not, it seems

            Come on now: the root of Eritrean problem started with ethiopia, not every problem but the root problem. We had discussed this before at lenghth with Horizon and Kim and maybe you. I will not repeat it, hit: destroying rule of law, the federation, ring a bell and then instead of rectifying it doing to the guttrer again and again
            The changes for ethiopia were over due and I hope it continiues, part of it is deja vue for us, how are we going to use it while ur Abiye is canonizing Isu, sanitizing him, crowning him, kissing his behind.It is disgusting. He could use hs port, u know I am not a stone, territory, tree guy, I am people’s guy
            And the no ethiopian will die for your is very low, un expected, irrelevant, so no u did not delete the rant, this is succinct, cogent, telling summary of your supposedly deleted rant

          • Amde

            Selam iSem,

            Well I like you. On this one, we will have to disagree.

            Abiy’s choices were straightforward. Maintain the status quo. Or engage. He chose to engage with the leader of a sovereign state. Abiy has always said he is – like you – a people’s guy. But he has to go through IA. At the end of the day, that is what the shindig is about. Funny enough I saw a clip of a protestant preacher among the first people to fly into Asmara today, and there he was preaching in the street to a crowd and calling on the gospel to rain on Asmara. Not my cup of tea, but it was a brave soul trying to push on the slight opening now evident.

            Amde

          • saay7

            Amde:

            More data points:

            The protestant preacher doesn’t believe in the sovereignty of Eritrea (“Ethiopia is gathering all her people” is what he said)
            The protestant preacher has fellow co-religionists, Eritreans, who are tortured, jailed by the hundreds if not thousands (read CoIE report on this)

            At this rate, it wouldn’t surprise me the least if Derg officials visit Asmara waving their old flag. And get a hero’s welcome.

            saay

          • Amde

            Saay,

            Hahaha…. well the Derg one is pushing the envelope.

            The pentecostals – I do believe they are serious about freeing Eritrean pente. They are doing it the way they know how – prayer and preaching. I am sure you have seen enough of preachers going down to “dens of iniquity” and calling the wrath of Jesus on the Devil. That is what that guy is to me. Quixotic, hopeless and entertaining.

            You would appreciate him a lot more if you took your nationalist hat off and looked at him as a brave soul of strong faith willing to pray and preach in streets of Asmara what his Eritrean co-religionists were jailed for. Preaching for and about Eritrea is a staple of Ethiopia pentecostal preachers in Ethiopia and elsewhere. This guy is putting his life on the line for what he believes he is called to do by doing it in the lion’s den.

            Amde

          • saay7

            Selamat Amde:

            It is far stretched to say the Dergistas will come….because they already have. Statistically speaking, some of the Issu-chanters in the Millenial Hall waving the classical flag have to be, no? And I did see that flag waving from the passengers that disembarked the plane. Instinctively, I checked the name of the airport to see if it hadn’t reclaimed its old name Yohannes IV. Than I said that’s ridiculous, it can’t be….because he was Tigrayan.

            On the pastor….I have so many nationalist heroes in jail that I am fresh out of acquiring new heroes who don’t even believe the country is an independent state and are in the “lion’s den” because the he was permitted to.

            saay

          • Amde

            Hello Saay,

            There were 73 evangelists on the plane? Well that is news to me. But not unexpected. Indeed, you are seeing an evangelist invasion. That is what they do. Ok don’t make heroes out of them, but come on – equating evangelist preachers to Derg soldiers? Really?

            And on the flag – I am thinking you know better.

            Amde

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Amde,

            He is not the kind of guy I like to see, the whole idea calling him “profit”, just doesn’t go well with me.

            What I was interesting to me was what he did but more importantly what the people where doing around him.

            It’s a sign of decent and the people are willing to take risk to challenge the regime if organized and coordinated, as they did in the Acria event last year.

            The government was able to crack it then, but now that something is open, the probability of opening is higher. For example, I would expect the government to open up Internet and improve the service because the tourists will demand it. This will also can be use to pressure the government, where it’s impossible before.

            Berhe

          • Amde

            Hi Berhe,

            I agree – he is not the kind of guy I want to see either. This whole “Prophet” thing is relatively new and a hugely controversial development. Most of them are charlatans.

            But, even with that, here is this one guy willing to go out on the streets and start prayer and preaching. One hopes this one Ethiopian guy will be followed by 1 and 10 and 100 Eritreans doing the same thing and eventually leading to the freeing of the thousands imprisoned.

            I see it as being a promising opening that could be exploited. As always, you completely get it – hopefully others do.

            Amde

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Dear Amde,

            I don’t think, Isaias will allow Eritreans to preach in the streets. He has chased religious men from day one of entering Asmara in 1991. The last one chased was Al-Diyaa school. Allowing Ethiopian preachers is just a show: let this preacher reside in Eritrea and at the end of the day he will get himself in one of the prisons of Isaias. Of course, after the end of the honeymoon.

          • Amde

            Selam Hameed al-Arabi,

            I don’t think this risk is lost on the preacher. I personally think being imprisoned is inevitable to be honest – which is why I kind of admire the courage. With the current honeymon he may be lucky enough to just be deported.

            Amde

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Salam Amde,

            Our guy in Eritrea doesn’t know deportation. He is only skilled in shoving to prison or graves. If the preacher is lucky, he will escape across the border at the danger of being shot by border guards.

            In America, they warn their citizens from travelling to dangerous places. In Ethiopia, they encourage them. Two different cultures, one guards his people and the other gambles with them.

            Those who don’t care for their siblings will not care for others. I think, now it is the right time to open Isaia file and study how he was dealing with Ethiopians, either during struggle era or after independence.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Amde,

            I do believe his actions will be followed and I don’t think IA will care much.

            You know saay said, IA was bored with Eritrea and his ambition was a lot bigger, I think he just may have got it now. Keeping Eritreans in national service or arresting pente here and there is just too small headache now that he will not care much. I would expect he will release all of them.

            I just read the Gedeb news just now and when I look at the details of those involved and their interests (Eritrea, Djibouti, UAE, China, Pakistan, India, Ethiopia, Somalia).

            Now I get it I think. Eritrea (IA got bigger ambition), Ethiopia (Abiy job creation, stability, saving money), UAE (keeping it’s interest in the red sea, competition from China and Pakistan port), US (worry about China influence in Africa), all seem to line up.

            I think we will see a different IA going forward I think. He is no longer bored with Eritrea little problems any more.

            Berhe

          • Selam Amde,
            That guy is Ethiopia’s first premium opium export to Eritrea. And verily, that item has enthusiastic customers. Seriously though, are we now occupying a post-political or apolitical space where politics proper is replaced by spiritualist halewlew? For me this is pure ideology in the true Marxian sense: obfuscation of real contradictions, competing interests and political contestations.

            Amde

          • Amde

            Selam Samuel,

            “Premium Opium”… I can’t disagree with you. But are you talking Abiy or the Preacher? I do think there is/will be a boomlet of Ethiopian evangelists trying to bring Jesus into Eritrea. They think Abiy’s coming to power is a miracle pure and simple, and they don’t see why another miracle cannot be effected in Asmara as well. I suppose we are into a second generation of intellectuals trained to view things along a Marxian world view, so I get why we have skepticism. But the society at large – especially if living under traumatic and extreme stress conditions – is very receptive to it. My guess is evangelism as a visible component of life is here to stay. We will continue to have the debate whether they are opium or a fundamental part of what it is to be human – but hopefully it will be within a system of less prisons and repression.

            Abiy himself – in my mind he is spiritualist first and politician second. I think he really believes it. The jury is still out if he can resolve fundamental issues in Ethiopia let alone in Eritrea.

            Amde

          • Ismail AA

            Selam gash Amde,

            You are raising controversial and challenging issues. In societies passing through fragile and stormy transition to state and governance formation, proselytization and politics could be anti-theses of one another. It is hard to imagine they can coexist in the current Ethiopian as well as Eritrean conditions.

            Simply put, the conditions are too fluid to absorb and contain the myriad and vying contentions and stakeholders that range from secular political ambitions down to assertion of cultural and religious affilitions. As we know the region is very fetile for radicalism, and we need not go far to watch the examples.

            If Dr. Abiy would opt to champion evangelical proselytization and political leadership at the same time, or even remotely sponsor the former, he is set for serious trouble, in my opinion. If he does, it will be an open invitation to failure as well as opening flood gates to others to assert their identities and affiliations.

          • Amde

            Selam Gash Ismail,

            I don’t think Dr. Abiy is championing evangelical proselytization – especially not as a political goal. I just think it is an important part of his belief system. Faith is important to him, and he tacitly encourages it in others and he tries to resolve problems different religious institutions have. His public record since he became PM is stellar whether you are talking Muslim, Tewahdo or Evangelical.

            There is a large boom of evangelicals in Ethiopia. By many accounts, ex-PM Hailemariam is one.
            As these things typically go, some of them are legit while many are charlatans, and I am – shall we say – extremely skeptical about the sincerity of their goals and the effectiveness of their methods. I think they believe they have an understanding and sympathetic ear in Arat Kilo. But they are essentially on their own. Invoking God’s mercy and blessings on the afflicted in Eritrea is a staple of much evangelical preaching in Ethiopia – for whatever reason it resonates. So, though unexpected, I am not surprised we have Ethiopian evangelicals going to Asmara for nothing else than preaching.

            Honestly, I do not think we have anything to fear on that front. Abiy is not pushing a particular religion or philosophy.

            Amde

        • Kaddis

          Hi iSem –

          If you already know Abiy is not doing it for Assab – then you should ask why ? why now?
          Mohamoud Ahmed ‘Selam Selam’ song deafening our ears the whole week was not for no war situation between the two nations – its for Oromia and partly Somali region; its internal.
          EPRDF lost the Oromia electorate. And the Amharic speaking as well.
          What is the Amharic speaking weakest spot. Assab, the flag and Jah. After the first flight to Asmara and Assab for free; you hear the Amharic mainstream already saying ‘who needs election’.

          For Oromia – its the big tent approach. Invite as much factions as possible and they fight it off. Among the many – the OLF vacationed in Asmara has already army in western Oromia – Isiayas could influence the power play.
          I dont think Abiy have much choice – Eritrea was one of the few cards in the back pocket.

          • David Samson

            Selam Kaddis,

            I believe you live in Ethiopia. I find your views very refreshing and balanced.

            ‘who needs election’.

            This is exactly what I am reading. All of a sudden, most of the diaspora oppositions seem to have swept away by the “Medemer” soundbites. Except for the Jowar group, they all seem to lose their prospective.

            I know Ethiopia have some independent media. I was searching through YouTube, hoping to find if any of pseudo- journalists have interviewed the top Ethiopian’s government officials, but no avails.

            Dr Debrezion had an interview, but it must have been with ETV. The interviewer did not ask him any critical question. I have already complained to BBC, but since the corporation is taken over by the looney left and PCs brigade, I would not hope for any change.

            I wish, if someone would interview the Eritreans refuges who have been living in Ethiopia. How do they see their feature?

      • Abraham H.

        Dear Amde, I’m not denying the positive developments, but I’m just saying PMA cannot have one standard of human rights for his people and another watered down one for the Eritrean people. So, please don’t divert my comment to the other issues. Besides, it is not lost to me and other observers that this new relations with the Eritrean dictator are also motivated by PM Abiy’s desire to cement his control of power within Ethiopia.
        We do not want the rise of a new Cuba in the horn of Africa.

    • David Samson

      Selam Abraham,
      Saudi Arabia is one of the most repressive kingdoms on earth. I can’t recall any western country leader to have raised the issue of “Human Rights”. PMAA has many things on his “Plates”. The last thing he needs-at least during the honey moon period- is to fall out with new bride.

  • David Samson

    Selam Ayneta,

    I think Ali Salim, is the most qualified person to answer question 1. However, he seems to have done an “O” turn and given things are moving fast, I can’t rule out that he might do a “U” turn again.

    2. is fear mongering-used by the extreme right-wing flops.

  • ghezaehagos

    Selam Awatistas,

    When we think of Eritrean prisoners being released, we feel happy for them and their families. Then, you ask why were they in jail to begin with?! Nothing really!, just for being, that thing called, ‘Eritreans under Isaias regime’.

    Pentecostals are perhaps one of the heavily persecuted groups in Eritrea. Now, out of the thousands in jail, let us say some are released. You see their faith is banned; they can’t pray in groups; they would be snatched from their own wedding. Yes, as long as their right to practice their faith is reinstated, more will be arrested tomorrow.

    As long as the following and more jails exist in Eritrea, jubilation is self-delusion.

    ኣብ ኤርትራ ዘለዋ ቤት ማእሰርቲን ቁጽረን

    1. ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 11
    2. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 12
    3. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 13
    4. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 16
    5. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 17
    6. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 18
    7. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 19
    8. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 21
    9. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 22
    10. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 23
    11. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 27
    12. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 31
    13. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 33
    14. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 35
    15. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 36
    16. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 37
    17. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 38
    18. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 42
    19. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 46
    20. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 47
    21. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 49
    22. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 57
    23. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 58
    24. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 84
    25. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ስሪሒት ዞባ 1
    26. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ስሪሒት ዞባ 2
    27. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ስሪሒት ዞባ 3
    28. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ስሪሒት ዞባ 4
    29. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ስሪሒት ዞባ 5
    30. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ስሪሒት ዞባ 6
    31. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ምክትታል ዶባት 01
    32. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ምክትታል ዶባት 36
    33. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ምክትታል ዶባት 101
    34. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ምክትታል ዶባት ቸንቶ
    35. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ምክትታል ዶባት እንዳ ጥቦት 36. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ገበን ወንጀል መርመራ
    37. መደበር ፖሊስ አጂፕ
    38. ቤት ማእሰርቲ አጂፕ
    39. ቤት ማእሰርቲ አጂፕ 12 አስመራ
    40. 1 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ
    41. 2 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ
    42. 3 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ
    43. 4 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ
    44. 5 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ
    45. 6 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ
    46. 7 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ
    47. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ጎዳይፍ 4
    48. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ጎዳይፍ 22
    49. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ጸጸራት
    50. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሰምበል
    51. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሰምበል ቁጽሪ 27
    52. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ትራክቢ 1
    53. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ትራክቢ 2
    54. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሓዝሓዝ
    55. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ፎርቶ
    56. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ትሕቲ ዕድመ ኮሞሳርያቶ
    57. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓዲ ኣበይቶ
    58. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓዲ ኣበይቶ 01
    59. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓዲ ኣበይቶ 21
    60. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓዲ ኣበይቶ 24
    61. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓዲ ኣበይቶ 61
    62. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓዲ ኣበይቶ 71
    63. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓዲ ኣበይቶ ሊብያ
    64. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ማይ ተመናይ 4
    65. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ማይ ተመናይ 41
    66. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ማይ ተመናይ 104
    67. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ገዛ ባንዳ ቁጽሪ 33
    68. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ብጸሊም ገዛባንዳ
    69. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣኽርያ ማይ ድምነት
    70. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣኽርያ ቁጽሪ 13
    71. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እንዳ ራእሲ
    72. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዲቢዚቶ
    73. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ገዛ ኸኒሻ 08
    74. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሜዳ ባሕቲ መስከረም
    75. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኮብለልቲ ማይ – ጭሆት
    76. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እንዳ መሬንጊ
    77. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሲነማ ሓማሴን
    78. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እንዳ ሰዓል
    79. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ቦርቦሬላ
    80. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ቦርቦሬላ ቁጽሪ 12
    81. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እንዳ ቖርቆስ
    82. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኪዳነ ምህረት ቤተ ገርግሽ 83. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ማይ ስርዋ
    84. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ማይ ስርዋ ድብኦ
    85. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ድርፎ 23
    86. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ድርፎ 66
    87. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እንዳ ጽዖት ጉርዒ
    88. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ቁሸት ባዶ
    89. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ቁሸት ቁጽሪ 07
    90. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ቁሸት ቁጽሪ 111
    91. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ጋላ ነፍሒ
    92. ቤት ማእሰርቲ በሪኽ
    93. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እንዳ ፍላንሳ
    94. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እንዳ ድጓና
    95. ቤት ማእሰርቲ በለዛ ምክልኻል
    96. ቤት ማእሰርቲ በለዛ መኮንናት
    97. ቤት ማእሰርቲ በለዛ 2
    98. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ሰረጀቓ
    99. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሰረጀቓ
    100. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ነፋሲት
    101. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እምባትካላ
    102. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እምባትካላ ጡልቁያት
    103. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እምባትካላ 6
    104. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ እምባትካላ 105. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ደንጎሎ
    106. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ደንጎሎ ጸባብ
    107. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ደንጎሎ ማይ
    108. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ደንጎሎ ተጠላቒና
    109. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ጊንዳዕ
    110. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ጊንዳዕ
    111. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ዕዳጋ
    112. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ውሽጢ ባጽዕ 113. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 1 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ውሽጢ ባጽዕ 114. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 2 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ውሽጢ ባጽዕ 115. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ነፋሲት – 116. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ውሽጢ ባጽዕ
    117. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ግቢ ባጽዕ
    118. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ባሕርያ (ባጽዕ)
    119. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኹትምያ (ባጽዕ)
    120. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣጂፕ 1 ባጽዕ
    121. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዳህላክ ማልታ
    122. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዳህላክ ስግረ ዶብ
    123. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዳህላክ ከይሳዕረረ
    124. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዳህላክ 4
    125. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ናኹራ
    126. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ናኹራ 2
    127. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ፍልፍል
    128. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ፊሸ ምራራ
    129. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ፊሸ መሮር
    130. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ፊሸ ባሕሪ
    131. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ፊሸ ጽልሚ
    132. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዒራ – ዒሮ
    133. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዒራ – ዒሮ 38
    134. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዒራ – ዒሮ 44
    135. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ግላስ
    136. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ግላስ 5
    137. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ገልዓሎ ባሶ
    138. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ገልዓሎ ኣልቶ
    139. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ገልዓሎ ሊብያ
    140. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ገልዓሎ ስግረ ዶብ
    141. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ገልዓሎ 90
    142. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዊዓ
    143. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዊዓ በርቂ
    145. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዊዓ ባሶ ዊዓ
    146. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እንዳ ኣሚር
    147. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መትከል አብየት
    148. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ባቖስ ጁባ
    149. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ባቖስ ካርታ
    150. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ረሀይ 67
    151. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ረሀይ 98
    152. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዛራ እንዳ ወርቂ
    153. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዛራ እንዳ 1
    154. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዛራ እንዳ 4
    155. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዛራ እንዳ 17
    156. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሞሶዲብ
    157. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኼሩ
    158. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣለቡ
    159. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መዓስከር ሳዋ
    160. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሳዋ 98
    161. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሳዋ 5 ይ ክፍለ ሰራዊት
    162. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሳዋ እንዳ ስላሴ
    163. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሳዋ እንዳ ጴንጤ
    164. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሳዋ እንዳ ጅሆቫ
    165. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሳዋ እንዳ ጡልቁያት
    166. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሳዋ እንዳ ፈለስቲ
    167. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሳዋ እንዳ ዕሩባት
    168. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሳዋ እንዳ ስግረ ዶብ
    169. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሳዋ እንዳ ከንቶ
    170. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሳዋ ኮሪደር
    171. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሳዋ እንዳ ቀሺ
    172. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሳዋ እንዳ ሸኽ
    173. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሳዋ እንዳ ዓበ
    174. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሳዋ እንዳ ጽግዕ
    175. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዳስየ
    176. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዳስየ 2 177. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዳስየ 4 178. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መዕጥር
    179. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መዕጥር 21
    180. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መዕጥር 22
    181. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኹላላ
    182. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓዳይት 5 ይ ጋንታ
    183. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣፍ – ሂምቦል 11
    184. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣፍ – ሂምቦል 12
    185. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣፍ – ሂምቦል 104
    186. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ኦምሓጀር 187. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 1 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ኦምሓጀር 189. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 2 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ኦምሓጀር 190. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኦምሓጀር
    191. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ጎልጅ
    192. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ጎልጅ
    193. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ጎልጅ ጥዩሳት
    194. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ኣቑርደት 195. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 1 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ኣቑርደት 196. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 2 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ኣቑርደት 197. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣቑርደት
    198. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ባረንቱ
    199. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ባረንቱ
    200. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ባረንቱ (ፕሪማ ካንትሪ) 201. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ባረንቱ እንዳ ዳጋ
    202. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ባረንቱ (ፎርቶ)
    203. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ተሰነይ
    204. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 1 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ተሰነይ 205. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 2 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ተሰነይ 206. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሰነይ ፍጮ
    207. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሰነይ ስግረ ዶብ
    208. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣንደርሰን
    209. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣንደርሰን 2
    210. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣንደርሰን ስግረ ዶብ
    211. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣንደርሰን ከይሳዕረረ 212. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣንደርሰን 13
    213. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣንደርሰን ኣስኮብላይ 214. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣንደርሰን እንዳ ሄዋን 215. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣንደርሰን እንዳ ዓብደላ 216. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣንደርሰን እንዳ ጀሃድ 217. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣንደርሰን እንዳ ጀሃድ 27 218. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ፎርቶ
    219. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እንዳ ጆሜትራ
    220. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እንዳ ኣልማዝ
    221. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እንዳ ለምለም
    222. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እንዳ ቐንጠብ
    223. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ድባርዋ
    224. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 1 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ድባርዋ 225. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ድባርዋ እንዳ ምኪኤል
    226. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ መንደፈራ 227. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 1 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ መንደፈራ 228. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 2 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ መንደፈራ 229. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መንደፈራ
    230. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መንደፈራ ፎርቶ
    231. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መንደፈራ እንዳ ክፍለ – ሰራዊት 232. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ዓዲ – ዃላ 233. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 1 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ዓዲ – ዃላ 234. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓዲ – ዃላ
    235. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ድጓና ዓዲ – ዃላ
    236. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓዲ – ዃላ ሕልፈት
    237. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ እንዳ ገርግስ 238. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እንዳ ገርግስ
    239. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ቆሓይን
    240. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ቆሓይን
    241. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሰም ዓሰም
    242. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ደቀ – ምሓረ 243. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ደቀ – ምሓረ
    244. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ካራቢኔሪ ደቀ – ምሓረ
    245. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓላ
    246. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓላ ድሙቕ
    247. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓላ ጋዴን
    248. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓላ ኹሉል
    249. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓላ ጎላጉል
    250. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓላ ላዕላይ
    251. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓላ ታሕታይ
    252. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓላ ጸዳፍ
    253. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓዲ ሮሶ
    254. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓዲ ሮሶ እንዳ ጡሕና
    255. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓዲ ሮሶ እንዳ ታዕሊም
    256. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓዲ ሮሶ እንዳ ተማኑ
    257. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓዲ ሮሶ እንዳ ወዲ ባሻይ 258. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓዲ ሮሶ እንዳ ዝንህላል 259. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓዲ ሮሶ እናህባይ
    260. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓዲ ሮሶ እንዳ ኩቡኩብ
    261. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ባዚት
    262. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ባዚት 1
    263. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ባዚት ሰልሚ
    264. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ባዚት ጉርዒ
    265. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ባዚት በሪኽ
    266. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ባዚት ክቢ
    267. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ሰገነይቲ 268. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሰገነይቲ
    269. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ድግሳ
    270. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ጾሮና
    271. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ጾሮና
    272. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ስግረ – ዶብ ጾሮና
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    277. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ስንዓፈ
    278. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሰንዓፈ
    279. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ስግረ – ዶብ ሰንዓፈ
    280. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣለውያ
    281. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሚዔ
    282. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ኣፍዓበት 283. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 1 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ኣፍዓበት 284. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 2 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ኣፍዓበት 285. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣፍዓበት
    286. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ናቕፋ
    287. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 1 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ናቕፋ 288. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 2 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ናቕፋ 289. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ናቕፋ እንዳ ኽሻ
    290. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ናቕፋ እንዳ 17
    291. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ናቕፋ እንዳ ማሞ
    292. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ስዋራ 2
    293. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ስዋራ 4
    294. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ረሀይ 67
    295. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ረሀይ 98
    296. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ጥሩቕ – ሩቕ
    297. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሕሽክብ 9
    298. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሕሽክብ 14
    299. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሕሽክብ ባረ
    300. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሓስመት
    301. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሓስመት ጨው
    302. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ማርሳ ጉልቡብ
    303. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሓሊበት አስኮብላይ
    304. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሓሊበት 8
    305. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሓሊበት 18
    306. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ማህሚመት ከይሳዕረረ
    307. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እንዳ ጁባ 12
    308. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እንዳ ሓነቕቲ
    309. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ፋሕ 09
    310. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ፋሕ እንዳ ናይብ
    311. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓራግ 14
    312. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓራግ 21
    313. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓራግ እንዳ ምንቕቓሕ
    314. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሓሽከርበብ 1
    315. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ወጀባ እንዳ 17
    316. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሰበርቀጠ
    317. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዒላ – ባቡ
    318. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ብሊቓት እንዳ ሻምበል ባሻ 319. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ብሊቓት 19
    320. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዒታሮ
    321. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መንካዕ ቀትሪ
    322. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መንካዕ ለይቲ
    323. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እንዳ ዓጃውጅ 2
    324. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ጠብሕ
    325. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ጠብሕ ከንቶ
    326. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እንዳ ኸበሮ
    327. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እንዳ ሓለዋ
    328. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ምድሪ – ዌት
    329. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እግሪ ለምለም
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    331. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ጢዖ
    332. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዕዲ
    333. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ፋጊ – ሚራሕ
    334. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዳምሒና
    335. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ካሪቦስ
    336. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሲብሶራን
    337. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሳፌሪን
    338. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ክሌማ
    339. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ዓሰብ
    340. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 1 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ዓሰብ 341. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 2 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ዓሰብ 342. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓሰብ ተሃድሶ
    343. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓሰብ
    344. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እንዳ ጫት ዓሰብ
    345. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ – ሰራዊት ዓሰብ 346. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሲሞቲ
    347. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ሓጋዝ
    348. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሓጋዝ
    349. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሓጋዝ 5 ይ መስርዕ
    350. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ዒላ – በርዒድ 351. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዒላ – በርዒድ
    352. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዒላ – በርዒድ 44
    353. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ግዝግዛ
    354. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ግዝግዛ ጡልቁያት
    355. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ከረን
    356. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 1 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ከረን 357. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 2 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ከረን 358. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 3 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ከረን 359. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ከረን
    360. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ፎርቶ ከረን
    361. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኩቡኩብ 24

    • ‘Gheteb

      ghezaehagos,

      You said:

      ” As long as the following and more jails exist in Eritrea, jubilation is self-delusion”.

      So, you want all the “jails” NOT to “exist in Eritrea” and Eritrea to be a country with no prison, jail or penitentiary. That is an unheard pipe dream.

      Have you lost ALL your marbles? Or, have you degenerated as a denizen of PLANET ILLOGIC so much so that, to be pigeonholed with those who are irredeemably wallowing in the dee seas of COUNTERFACTUALS?

      So far as I know there is no country that doesn’t have some sort of prisons or detention centers. I am talking here about countries that are neither on a war footing nor that are under emergency rules.

      However you and your coterie try to make political hay about the issues of those Eritreans in jail or some soi-disant human rights issue in Eritrea, the stark reality in Eritrea for the past two decades has been that Eritrea was/is:

      1) It is still under the emergency rule or state of exception.
      2) it was in a war footing until about a week ago.
      3) There are still forces that are hellbent in upending the Eritrean body politic.
      4) Eritrea is still a sanctioned nation and much, much more,

      Instead of daydreaming Eritrea to be jail or prison free, why don’t do some INTROSPECTION and self-reconcile yourself to the stark realities about Eritrea that is glaringly gazing at you.

      Maybe, that is a BIG maybe, you will find some other issues that resonate with the Eritrean populace. That way, your next endeavor won’t end up like the one you were involved in for the past 18 years. For all those wasted years, I am sure, you have nothing to write home about. I mean, you and your coterie have ABYSMALLY failed.

      • ghezaehagos

        Gheteb,

        My response:

        ኣብ ኤርትራ ዘለዋ ቤት ማእሰርቲን ቁጽረን

        1. ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 11
        2. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 12
        3. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 13
        4. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 16
        5. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 17
        6. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 18
        7. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 19
        8. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 21
        9. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 22
        10. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 23
        11. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 27
        12. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 31
        13. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 33
        14. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 35
        15. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 36
        16. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 37
        17. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 38
        18. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 42
        19. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 46
        20. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 47
        21. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 49
        22. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 57
        23. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 58
        24. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ ሰራዊት 84
        25. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ስሪሒት ዞባ 1
        26. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ስሪሒት ዞባ 2
        27. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ስሪሒት ዞባ 3
        28. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ስሪሒት ዞባ 4
        29. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ስሪሒት ዞባ 5
        30. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ስሪሒት ዞባ 6
        31. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ምክትታል ዶባት 01
        32. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ምክትታል ዶባት 36
        33. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ምክትታል ዶባት 101
        34. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ምክትታል ዶባት ቸንቶ
        35. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ምክትታል ዶባት እንዳ ጥቦት 36. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ገበን ወንጀል መርመራ
        37. መደበር ፖሊስ አጂፕ
        38. ቤት ማእሰርቲ አጂፕ
        39. ቤት ማእሰርቲ አጂፕ 12 አስመራ
        40. 1 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ
        41. 2 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ
        42. 3 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ
        43. 4 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ
        44. 5 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ
        45. 6 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ
        46. 7 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ
        47. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ጎዳይፍ 4
        48. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ጎዳይፍ 22
        49. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ጸጸራት
        50. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሰምበል
        51. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሰምበል ቁጽሪ 27
        52. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ትራክቢ 1
        53. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ትራክቢ 2
        54. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሓዝሓዝ
        55. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ፎርቶ
        56. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ትሕቲ ዕድመ ኮሞሳርያቶ
        57. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓዲ ኣበይቶ
        58. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓዲ ኣበይቶ 01
        59. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓዲ ኣበይቶ 21
        60. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓዲ ኣበይቶ 24
        61. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓዲ ኣበይቶ 61
        62. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓዲ ኣበይቶ 71
        63. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓዲ ኣበይቶ ሊብያ
        64. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ማይ ተመናይ 4
        65. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ማይ ተመናይ 41
        66. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ማይ ተመናይ 104
        67. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ገዛ ባንዳ ቁጽሪ 33
        68. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ብጸሊም ገዛባንዳ
        69. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣኽርያ ማይ ድምነት
        70. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣኽርያ ቁጽሪ 13
        71. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እንዳ ራእሲ
        72. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዲቢዚቶ
        73. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ገዛ ኸኒሻ 08
        74. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሜዳ ባሕቲ መስከረም
        75. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኮብለልቲ ማይ – ጭሆት
        76. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እንዳ መሬንጊ
        77. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሲነማ ሓማሴን
        78. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እንዳ ሰዓል
        79. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ቦርቦሬላ
        80. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ቦርቦሬላ ቁጽሪ 12
        81. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እንዳ ቖርቆስ
        82. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኪዳነ ምህረት ቤተ ገርግሽ 83. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ማይ ስርዋ
        84. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ማይ ስርዋ ድብኦ
        85. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ድርፎ 23
        86. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ድርፎ 66
        87. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እንዳ ጽዖት ጉርዒ
        88. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ቁሸት ባዶ
        89. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ቁሸት ቁጽሪ 07
        90. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ቁሸት ቁጽሪ 111
        91. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ጋላ ነፍሒ
        92. ቤት ማእሰርቲ በሪኽ
        93. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እንዳ ፍላንሳ
        94. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እንዳ ድጓና
        95. ቤት ማእሰርቲ በለዛ ምክልኻል
        96. ቤት ማእሰርቲ በለዛ መኮንናት
        97. ቤት ማእሰርቲ በለዛ 2
        98. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ሰረጀቓ
        99. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሰረጀቓ
        100. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ነፋሲት
        101. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እምባትካላ
        102. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እምባትካላ ጡልቁያት
        103. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እምባትካላ 6
        104. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ እምባትካላ 105. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ደንጎሎ
        106. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ደንጎሎ ጸባብ
        107. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ደንጎሎ ማይ
        108. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ደንጎሎ ተጠላቒና
        109. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ጊንዳዕ
        110. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ጊንዳዕ
        111. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ዕዳጋ
        112. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ውሽጢ ባጽዕ 113. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 1 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ውሽጢ ባጽዕ 114. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 2 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ውሽጢ ባጽዕ 115. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ነፋሲት – 116. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ውሽጢ ባጽዕ
        117. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ግቢ ባጽዕ
        118. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ባሕርያ (ባጽዕ)
        119. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኹትምያ (ባጽዕ)
        120. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣጂፕ 1 ባጽዕ
        121. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዳህላክ ማልታ
        122. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዳህላክ ስግረ ዶብ
        123. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዳህላክ ከይሳዕረረ
        124. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዳህላክ 4
        125. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ናኹራ
        126. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ናኹራ 2
        127. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ፍልፍል
        128. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ፊሸ ምራራ
        129. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ፊሸ መሮር
        130. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ፊሸ ባሕሪ
        131. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ፊሸ ጽልሚ
        132. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዒራ – ዒሮ
        133. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዒራ – ዒሮ 38
        134. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዒራ – ዒሮ 44
        135. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ግላስ
        136. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ግላስ 5
        137. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ገልዓሎ ባሶ
        138. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ገልዓሎ ኣልቶ
        139. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ገልዓሎ ሊብያ
        140. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ገልዓሎ ስግረ ዶብ
        141. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ገልዓሎ 90
        142. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዊዓ
        143. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዊዓ በርቂ
        145. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዊዓ ባሶ ዊዓ
        146. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እንዳ ኣሚር
        147. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መትከል አብየት
        148. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ባቖስ ጁባ
        149. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ባቖስ ካርታ
        150. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ረሀይ 67
        151. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ረሀይ 98
        152. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዛራ እንዳ ወርቂ
        153. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዛራ እንዳ 1
        154. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዛራ እንዳ 4
        155. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዛራ እንዳ 17
        156. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሞሶዲብ
        157. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኼሩ
        158. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣለቡ
        159. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መዓስከር ሳዋ
        160. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሳዋ 98
        161. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሳዋ 5 ይ ክፍለ ሰራዊት
        162. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሳዋ እንዳ ስላሴ
        163. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሳዋ እንዳ ጴንጤ
        164. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሳዋ እንዳ ጅሆቫ
        165. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሳዋ እንዳ ጡልቁያት
        166. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሳዋ እንዳ ፈለስቲ
        167. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሳዋ እንዳ ዕሩባት
        168. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሳዋ እንዳ ስግረ ዶብ
        169. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሳዋ እንዳ ከንቶ
        170. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሳዋ ኮሪደር
        171. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሳዋ እንዳ ቀሺ
        172. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሳዋ እንዳ ሸኽ
        173. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሳዋ እንዳ ዓበ
        174. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሳዋ እንዳ ጽግዕ
        175. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዳስየ
        176. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዳስየ 2 177. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዳስየ 4 178. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መዕጥር
        179. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መዕጥር 21
        180. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መዕጥር 22
        181. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኹላላ
        182. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓዳይት 5 ይ ጋንታ
        183. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣፍ – ሂምቦል 11
        184. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣፍ – ሂምቦል 12
        185. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣፍ – ሂምቦል 104
        186. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ኦምሓጀር 187. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 1 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ኦምሓጀር 189. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 2 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ኦምሓጀር 190. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኦምሓጀር
        191. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ጎልጅ
        192. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ጎልጅ
        193. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ጎልጅ ጥዩሳት
        194. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ኣቑርደት 195. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 1 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ኣቑርደት 196. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 2 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ኣቑርደት 197. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣቑርደት
        198. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ባረንቱ
        199. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ባረንቱ
        200. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ባረንቱ (ፕሪማ ካንትሪ) 201. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ባረንቱ እንዳ ዳጋ
        202. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ባረንቱ (ፎርቶ)
        203. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ተሰነይ
        204. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 1 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ተሰነይ 205. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 2 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ተሰነይ 206. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሰነይ ፍጮ
        207. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሰነይ ስግረ ዶብ
        208. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣንደርሰን
        209. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣንደርሰን 2
        210. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣንደርሰን ስግረ ዶብ
        211. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣንደርሰን ከይሳዕረረ 212. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣንደርሰን 13
        213. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣንደርሰን ኣስኮብላይ 214. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣንደርሰን እንዳ ሄዋን 215. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣንደርሰን እንዳ ዓብደላ 216. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣንደርሰን እንዳ ጀሃድ 217. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣንደርሰን እንዳ ጀሃድ 27 218. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ፎርቶ
        219. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እንዳ ጆሜትራ
        220. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እንዳ ኣልማዝ
        221. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እንዳ ለምለም
        222. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እንዳ ቐንጠብ
        223. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ድባርዋ
        224. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 1 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ድባርዋ 225. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ድባርዋ እንዳ ምኪኤል
        226. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ መንደፈራ 227. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 1 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ መንደፈራ 228. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 2 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ መንደፈራ 229. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መንደፈራ
        230. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መንደፈራ ፎርቶ
        231. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መንደፈራ እንዳ ክፍለ – ሰራዊት 232. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ዓዲ – ዃላ 233. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 1 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ዓዲ – ዃላ 234. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓዲ – ዃላ
        235. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ድጓና ዓዲ – ዃላ
        236. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓዲ – ዃላ ሕልፈት
        237. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ እንዳ ገርግስ 238. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እንዳ ገርግስ
        239. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ቆሓይን
        240. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ቆሓይን
        241. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሰም ዓሰም
        242. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ደቀ – ምሓረ 243. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ደቀ – ምሓረ
        244. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ካራቢኔሪ ደቀ – ምሓረ
        245. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓላ
        246. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓላ ድሙቕ
        247. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓላ ጋዴን
        248. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓላ ኹሉል
        249. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓላ ጎላጉል
        250. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓላ ላዕላይ
        251. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓላ ታሕታይ
        252. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓላ ጸዳፍ
        253. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓዲ ሮሶ
        254. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓዲ ሮሶ እንዳ ጡሕና
        255. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓዲ ሮሶ እንዳ ታዕሊም
        256. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓዲ ሮሶ እንዳ ተማኑ
        257. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓዲ ሮሶ እንዳ ወዲ ባሻይ 258. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓዲ ሮሶ እንዳ ዝንህላል 259. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓዲ ሮሶ እናህባይ
        260. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓዲ ሮሶ እንዳ ኩቡኩብ
        261. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ባዚት
        262. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ባዚት 1
        263. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ባዚት ሰልሚ
        264. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ባዚት ጉርዒ
        265. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ባዚት በሪኽ
        266. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ባዚት ክቢ
        267. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ሰገነይቲ 268. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሰገነይቲ
        269. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ድግሳ
        270. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ጾሮና
        271. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ጾሮና
        272. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ስግረ – ዶብ ጾሮና
        273. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ዓድ – ቐይሕ 274. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 1 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ዓዲ – ቐይሕ 275. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 2 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ዓዲ – ቐይሕ 276. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓዲ – ቐይሕ
        277. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ስንዓፈ
        278. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሰንዓፈ
        279. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ስግረ – ዶብ ሰንዓፈ
        280. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣለውያ
        281. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሚዔ
        282. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ኣፍዓበት 283. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 1 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ኣፍዓበት 284. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 2 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ኣፍዓበት 285. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኣፍዓበት
        286. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ናቕፋ
        287. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 1 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ናቕፋ 288. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 2 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ናቕፋ 289. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ናቕፋ እንዳ ኽሻ
        290. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ናቕፋ እንዳ 17
        291. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ናቕፋ እንዳ ማሞ
        292. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ስዋራ 2
        293. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ስዋራ 4
        294. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ረሀይ 67
        295. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ረሀይ 98
        296. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ጥሩቕ – ሩቕ
        297. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሕሽክብ 9
        298. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሕሽክብ 14
        299. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሕሽክብ ባረ
        300. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሓስመት
        301. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሓስመት ጨው
        302. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ማርሳ ጉልቡብ
        303. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሓሊበት አስኮብላይ
        304. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሓሊበት 8
        305. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሓሊበት 18
        306. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ማህሚመት ከይሳዕረረ
        307. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እንዳ ጁባ 12
        308. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እንዳ ሓነቕቲ
        309. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ፋሕ 09
        310. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ፋሕ እንዳ ናይብ
        311. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓራግ 14
        312. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓራግ 21
        313. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓራግ እንዳ ምንቕቓሕ
        314. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሓሽከርበብ 1
        315. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ወጀባ እንዳ 17
        316. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሰበርቀጠ
        317. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዒላ – ባቡ
        318. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ብሊቓት እንዳ ሻምበል ባሻ 319. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ብሊቓት 19
        320. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዒታሮ
        321. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መንካዕ ቀትሪ
        322. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መንካዕ ለይቲ
        323. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እንዳ ዓጃውጅ 2
        324. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ጠብሕ
        325. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ጠብሕ ከንቶ
        326. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እንዳ ኸበሮ
        327. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እንዳ ሓለዋ
        328. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ምድሪ – ዌት
        329. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እግሪ ለምለም
        330. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኮብለልቲ 1
        331. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ጢዖ
        332. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዕዲ
        333. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ፋጊ – ሚራሕ
        334. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዳምሒና
        335. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ካሪቦስ
        336. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሲብሶራን
        337. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሳፌሪን
        338. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ክሌማ
        339. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ዓሰብ
        340. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 1 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ዓሰብ 341. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 2 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ዓሰብ 342. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓሰብ ተሃድሶ
        343. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዓሰብ
        344. ቤት ማእሰርቲ እንዳ ጫት ዓሰብ
        345. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ተሃድሶ ክፍለ – ሰራዊት ዓሰብ 346. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሲሞቲ
        347. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ሓጋዝ
        348. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሓጋዝ
        349. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ሓጋዝ 5 ይ መስርዕ
        350. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ዒላ – በርዒድ 351. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዒላ – በርዒድ
        352. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ዒላ – በርዒድ 44
        353. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ግዝግዛ
        354. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ግዝግዛ ጡልቁያት
        355. ቤት ማእሰርቲ መደበር ፖሊስ ከረን
        356. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 1 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ከረን 357. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 2 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ከረን 358. ቤት ማእሰርቲ 3 ይ መደበር ፖሊስ ከረን 359. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ከረን
        360. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ፎርቶ ከረን
        361. ቤት ማእሰርቲ ኩቡኩብ 24

        • Hope

          Selam Ghezae:
          Is this a confirmed list?

          This is SCARY!

          Can Prof Dr Gheteb comment on that?

          If truely Confirmed ,the # of Prisoners said to be 15k must be true then!

          If so,is the Eri people at home aware of this?

          Am not new to this Figures but thought things were exaggerated.
          Dr Abiy could have emptied all these overnight.

          Time to get better organized and challenge the Regime better than ever using this new Peace Initiative to our benefit!

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Hope,

            I think the list is based on Ambassador Andeberhan book.

            Berhe

          • Ismail AA

            Selam Hope,
            Stayed tuned; this could turn to be tip of an Iceberg. Gratitude is due to the diligence Ghezae has demonstrated to share such scary testimony of shameless dictatorship.

        • Selam Ghezae,

          Are the prisoners sorted by the day of the year they were arrested? And ጳቑመ or the 13th month with extra five days were generally days off not to arrest anyone holidays?
          But seriously, when you say biet maEserti, you are including more than prisons like local jails, right? I hope so???

          tSAtSE

    • Desbele

      Good job Ghezae
      Mai Edaga is one more. I was there I know it.
      I was detained @ Adi Abieto & Truck B. Will never forget but will forgive.

  • Abi

    Hi Ayneta
    What do you mean by ” slowly integrating ” when referring to Ethiopians. What do we desperately need from you that we don’t have?
    How fast can you build a 100 meter high wall?

    • iSem

      hi Abi:
      you are slow today. Of course we have something that you do not have. You had it and you lost it and it is not port. It is DIA. PMAA went shopping, after IA refused port access for Ethiopia for two decade when PMAA wanted IA, IA complied

      • Abi

        Hi iSem
        I’m trying to be extremely slow and ask for explanation than reacting too fast and reach conclusion.
        So you are saying we found our IA ? Yeah! We sent back The lost sheep 🐑 back to you on a decorated horse 🐴.
        የተሸጠ ዕቃ አይመለስም።
        All sales final. No returns no exchanges.

        • iSem

          Abi:
          but now u are not that slow.:-)
          That is right if someone is useless to sell thier treasures for cheap, they deserve to be robbed

    • @george

      Dear abi

      Brain.

      • Abi

        Hi @george
        Brain?
        Over the weekend your brainy president was on record pleading my brainless PM to lead the “ONE PEOPLE ” to success. I think you missed it or you are extremely slow in processing information. Is it 1961? Just curious:)

        You are indeed very slow even by a monkey standard.

  • Kbrom

    Dear all

    Confirmed news

    Wedi Kebede, the head of Adi Abeto Prison and General Phlipos’ right hand man is arrested by direct order from PIA. When he passed the order PIA said ‘those who were unjustly arresting people should go to jail to taste the bitterness of prison’.

    • Tzigereda

      Dear Kbrom,
      Did Isias Afwerki read half of the testimonies of the COI Eritrea and blinded the part which concerns him?
      “እዚ ሰብኣይ ክልክመና እዩ ” ዝብልዋ ዝነበሩ እምበኣር ተሓዲሳ…
      ናይ ሓሶት ልቢ’ዶ ተለቂሑ? ኣይገርመናን::

    • saay7

      Kbur Kbrom:

      It looks like IA is going to play his favorite character from Casablanca, Captain Renault, who was running an illegal casino that he didn’t know was a casino. When reality hits, Captain Renault said: I’m shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here. Similarly with Captain Isaias: i’m shocked, shocked to find that arresting is going on in here.

      He is so busy running a country he didn’t know what was going on 5 km from his office. The sad thing of course is some people will buy it.

      saay

      • Now inc.

        SAAY,
        Unfortunately, IA will sell and (Eritrean people will buy) that all the prison cruelty was unbeknown to him.
        However, the high profile cases of G15, journalists, Bitweded Abraha and the likes will be squarely on him. He has no wiggle room there.

        • ghezaehagos

          Hello,

          There is no one as hated as Isaias Afewerki inside Eritrea. He knows he is deeply despised by the people. The old and young knew his tricks and frankly speaking he is not doing good job of hiding them. Too frustrated and bored to hide. Besides, how can he hide it for 27 years when he himself, ‘we were wrong for 25 years’.

          The only defense and ‘mata’ card he had was the border issue; and he know says ‘there is no need for one.’ Yes, he used it well and like everything he touches, he had throw it away—as far as possible.

          The 73 year old tyrant is in the twilight of his earthly existence. One thing is for sure: Though he gave up on his subjects and looks for greener pastures beyond Hawasa, Eritrea and Eritreanism will outlive him.

        • saay7

          Now Inc:

          Even when the G-15 are released it will be announced via the govs new unofficial media. Releasing them via official media raises questions of restitution, among many other questions, that the gov has no answers for.

          saay

      • ‘Gheteb

        Cuz SAAY:

        First, to answer your question about the unwillingness to report or issue news items is on matters of national security issues or matters that have political implications or ramifications. Anodyne issues are readily and happily issued or disseminated.

        As it is de rigueur here, I don’t address your Kibur Kbrom directly, but I communicate my messages to him through his Sancho Panza, “the dexterous SAAY”.

        Your Kibur Kbrom, the hyper-imaginative “stringer” of this Forum, is not making a LICK of sense here. Here are some of his claims that has left me furiously scratching my head.

        1) If we assume that ” Wedi Kebede, the head of Adi Abeto Prison and General Phlipos’ right hand man” was arrested, how do we confirm that it was done by direct orders pf PIA? Doesn’t he have deputies and underlings to do those kind of things?

        2) Given the fact that your Kibur Kbrom is claiming that ” PIA said ‘those who were unjustly arresting people should go to jail to taste the bitterness of prison'”, and taking into consideration that the intel and source of your Kibur Kbrom are “disgruntled PFDJ officials”, how plausible is Kbrom’s claim?

        I mean, once you fall out of PIA’s favors and you become one of those disgruntled PFDJ officials, I can assure you that PIA even if he may not throw you in the doghouse, he won’t touch you even with a ten feet pole. Pretty much you won’t get close to him and tantamount to ostracization.

        Now, then, given this facts, I think your Kibur Kbrom is just echoing a made-up stories circulating in the streets of Asmara. And, I don’t buy his claim even for split second.

        • saay7

          Kbur Gheteb:

          There is no need at all to “furiously scratch” your head. Kbur Kbrom told you this is what’s going to happen (IA designating Philipos as a fall guy) and this is what’s happening.

          The IA strategy is not plausible because, as Tsigereda said, an entire UN agency reported about it, and his enforcers said it’s all lies and mobilized people to denounce it as lies. How can you call something a lie and then claim you didn’t know about it?

          Designating a fall guy is fairly common for the IA regime. Remember when your cuz left the Ministry of Information, they released prisoners and said it was all the work of your Cuz and they had no knowledge about it.

          Finally, just so you know, with the exception of a handful of people who benefit from status quo, you ought to know everybody is disgruntled with IA.

          By the way, do Sancho Panzas have a special hat and where do I get mine?

          saay

          • ‘Gheteb

            Cuz SAAY:

            I am not quarreling with or raising exceptions about a fall guy or what have you. I am contending that what the “stringer” claimed about what Isaias has said about the arrest of Wedi-Kebede.

            I am assuming here that you are not saying those who are close to PIA are also among the disgruntled group which by now you are averring to be virtually every Eritrean. That is why I found his “Kuburness” claim to be utterly implausible.

            If you ask me why Kbrom is claiming that General Philipos is the next fall guy, which I find to be highly far-fetched, I think for your Kbrom this is a personal issue. I think that he has some unresolved issues with General Philipos.

            On a related issue, guess who is coming to next week’s DC festival?

            1) Elias Amare
            2) Andargatchew Tsge

            You Kbrom has reported that 14 mid level and young PFDJ cadres are going to accompany Yemane Gebreab to the DC festival. I am wondering if these are the heir apparents of the aging PFDJ big wigs?

            I want that hyper-imaginative mind to go back to work.

          • saay7

            Cuz Gheteb:

            The thing with disclosing classified info is that it gets proven right or wrong fairly quickly, no? But you can’t keep moving the goal post or change the emphasis. In this particular case, what needs to be verified is not IA allegedly said about the Kebede dude (how can we?) but whether he is arrested or not. Similarly on the caravan coming to DC to calm those unhappy with the Ethiopianization of “Issu”, let’s wait and see.

            Is Elias Amare a gov official now? Remember what kbur Kbrom talked about was gov delegation

            saay

          • ‘Gheteb

            Cuz SAAY:

            But here is what his Kburomness wrote verbatim”

            ” Kbrom • 6 days ago
            Hi all

            1. PIA will take with him 23 officials from different ministries ( hand picked by him) to Addis. The technical committee will be formed and MOU will be signed on transportation, trade, investment ….. aka 5 pillars.

            2. Oromo elders will visit Asmara to thank PIA for his life long support to Oromia’s struggle.

            3. YG may be also Osman to lead a delegation of 14 people all young and middle aged cadres ( all hand picked by PIA) to Eritrean’s festival Washington festival. It is same like the እዚኦም ዮም ሃገር ዘምጽኡ ቦሎኛ ፌስቲቫል ድሕሪ ናጽነት 1991″.

            Check #3, ” a delegation of 14 people all young and middle aged cadres ( all hand picked by PIA) to Eritrean’s festival Washington festival”.

            14 cadres of PFDJ. Last time I checked, Elias Amare is a member of the PFDJ. Remember how much you and the other galoots were trying to divine his Tweets as some sort of a clue to the real PFDJ stances. Hmmm…mmm….mmmm

          • saay7

            Selam Gheteb:

            Why don’t you wait until the festival comes and goes?

            So far, you have confirmed two of the 14 because they fit the “young or middle aged cadre”.

            saay

    • iSem

      Hi Kbrom:

      Good new, the revolution devouring its own children.
      IA is also the victim here, zhgzo siennu ezi sebay.

    • Abraham H.

      Dear Kbrom, “When he passed the order PIA said ‘those who were unjustly arresting people should go to jail to taste the bitterness of prison’.”. People need to ask, and who created that atmosphere of impunity, and who was giving the orders to fill Eritrea with all those prisons? Wasn’t it the the capo himself?

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Kbromay,

      So his enablers one after one will go to prison, as if he didn’t know and didn’t give them all kind of instructions to act what they have been doing all those years. Next time, he will shamelessly tell the Eritrean people, that he didn’t know the over 300 prisons scattered all over Eritrea. And as usual, this evil man, one after the other, will make them disappear for those who knew him and were part of his accomplices.

      • saay7

        Emma:

        This is why even the release of the prisoners is being announced via their unofficial media. FishMilk already told you about the Facebook “Eripress.” Another one, the so-called “hagerawi dHnet” is reporting “ኣብ ማይ ሰርዋን ዓዲ ኣበይቶን ተኣሲሮም ዝነበሩ ተኣረምቲ ተፈቲሖም” So there you have the regime talking out of both sides of its mouth: per Kbrom they are wrongly arrested and that’s why the guy who arrested them is now arrested. And per hagherawi dHnet, these were wrong doers who were being rehabilitated.

        And this is why they can’t report it via their official media.

        saay

    • Desbele

      DIA is a true student perfecting Machiavellian manual!
      Justice is what we are crying for. However their crime they should be brought to the court and not be arrested under the whim of a dictator!

    • Mitiku Melesse

      Hei, Kibrom.
      Now at least we know there are more than one person who sent people to prison. I believe the majority support PIA.

      Anyway peace with Ethiopia is paying for the majority. With tplf in power we have seen only craziness and now just the opposite. Normalization started i believe.

    • Ismail AA

      Selam Kbrom,

      Have you ever witnessed such level of hypocrisy? Watch out the apologists will as usual read his lips and vindicate him. “Nsu intay yifelT neyru” will be their new catch word.

      • Kbrom

        Dear Isamail, Tsigereda, Haile, Abraham, Hope,blink, Mitiku, desbele, Amanuel, saay, Nitricc, Berhe et al.

        I just want to say the reason that I do not respond to comments in regard to information I post is because I do not want to mix my opinion with the information that is coming from inside. I prefer to post them as they are without making my own analysis or taking stand.

        I sincerely apologise for replying late.

        Best regards

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Kbromay,

          Point well taken. News are disseminated only as they happen and how they happen as is, for the public to digest them. You are giving us good service. Thank you.

        • Ismail AA

          Dear Kbrom,
          I really appreciate your modesty and respect for your fellow forumers. I understand your point very well. Thank you.

        • Haile S.

          Selamat Kbrom,
          No worries, a good journalist is word-pinching with his readers.

  • ‘Gheteb

    Hi Abi,

    But, you did NOT “severely ignore unnecessary comments” when you responded to Blink. Now that I have called you on the carpet and you are unable to even define what this putative term “Habesha” is, here you go making a wild accusation that, I am sure, you can’t prove that I ” have butchered the whole Abesha population”.

    Man, you talk about “Abesha population” and you can’t even define what this Habesha balderdash is? PATHETIC, is all I can say!

  • ‘Gheteb

    Hi Abi,

    I think Blink is raising some legitimate questions here. Though you may not take what he is asking seriously, I consider myself among many, many others, who take such issues seriously.

    Yeah, what is Habesha? Can you even define it?

    If you have the facts to back up to answer the queries that Blink posed, why don’t you come out and answer his questions and enlighten those of us who don’t buy this Habesha hocus pocus.

    Give it a try, instead of belittling legitimate questions by rendering some sophomoric rejoinders.

  • Blink

    Dear Abi
    Lol you already did if not you could have just put your witted Amharic joke. Now educate people then? I mean a Dergi chosen Eritrea administer for 3 years ato Dawit failed to tell you the truth . I am sure you are sympathetic to him .

  • ‘Gheteb

    Good Tidings Emanating From The Homeland

    Greetings!!

    Great news and good tidings that I gleaned from the Tweeter world, that prisoners have been released from Adi Abyto prison which is located in the outskirts of Asmara. While I have not seen any official confirmation, it is also reported that the Adi Abyto prison will be closed.

    I hope this is a harbinger of what is to come, maybe, heralding that other prisoners will follow suit and that we may witness their release in the not too distant future.

    Another tidbits that has piqued my interest is the appointment of Ato Rhedwan Hussien has been appointed to be Ethiopian ambassador to Eritrea. I am going to follow this with a laser beam focus as I believe that his role as an ambassador will have a far reaching ramification in the evolving peace between the two countries.

    • Blink

      Dear Gheteb
      I think he was in Ireland as Ambassador too.

    • Mitiku Melesse

      Selam Gheteb.
      We need more of this kind of good news. I have seen the separated families reunion and their reaction. It was touchy one. It was the war separated them. The peace declaration gave them this huge opportunity. The prisoners also punished due to the war. Those who sit in the west know how to catalyze and polarize the relation between the government and those who have a different views than the government. What do they care for? They are not the one who pays the price. When you live next to a devil racist organization like tplf you can not entertain the western democracy.

      The fear for woyane to topple the regime in Eritrea is over thus the paranoia of PIA that any opposition work for tplf is over too. Even they work for tplf now they are not a threat

      One thing I emphasize is that both the now leaders and the near future (i feel we both are going to have elections sooner than the toothless oppositions could manage their anger ) leaders of both countries never shall have a hidden agenda. Late alone a hidden agenda the slightest mistake will be a reason for people like Saleh open the champagne for the ‘ i told (wish) you so’.

      So far the score from the match between the peace agreement lovers and the NwNP supporters is woyane and Saleh zero, the peoples of Eritrea and Ethiopia million goals.

    • saay7

      Selamat Gheteb:

      Congratulations to the released and their family members!

      Congratulations to Gheteb that the Ethiopian Ambassador to Eritrea is not from Tigray but from as far as you can get from Tigray as possible and still be in Ethiopia.

      Question to my exceptionally smart cousin: why is the news of the releases not being made by official government media? The only answer I have (and I could be very wrong here) is that when one has been claiming that the claim that there are thousands arrested is a lie invented by the “opposition” (in quotes) and Weyane, it is difficult to admit it, no?

      saay

      • ‘Gheteb

        Hey Cuz SAAY:

        Why are being utterly REMISS about the CUZ thing in your salutations. In your zeal of unloading your ZINGERS, you are forgetting the most important part, this cousin thing.

        Believe me, I mean you better believe me, when I say this:

        The next thing I want to hear coming from Eritrea is the RELEASE of your niece, Siham Ali. Nothing will elate me as that very tidings

        Speaking of your favorite line why the GoEr does not officially announce such news, I will refer you to my lengthy rejoinder to Tzigereda a couple of days ago. Also, to all the factors I have enumerated why the GoEr is LOATH and has seemingly this aversion vis-à-vis official news release, could it also be that:

        Like PIA said in his speech during the martyrs day that the PFDJ is not into this media fanfare and PR and publicity stunts?

        Where and when did I deny that there are/were prisoners in Eritrea?

        • saay7

          Hey Cuziest Cuz:

          You did not deny (to my knowledge) but:

          1. If the government never announced its arrest and
          2. It categorically denies all claims that it arrests people and defames those who report it
          3. What is the conclusion?

          Your assertion that the government is loathe to report news is not supported by the facts, when you are talking about an institution that tells us how many wells it dug, how many hospitals and schools it built, what percentage is the literacy rate, mortality rate, narrowing of gender gap…. what is more accurate it’s loathe to report on anything that has to do with individual rights; but it is happy to report about “social economic rights.” Agree?

          saay

        • iSem

          Howdy:
          and what has Siham’s imprisonment to do withAbiye’s peace? And what do u think the fair compensation would be for Siham’s wasted time and the suffering
          DO u thinkg, 50,000USD is fair?
          No I have a better idea, you said you are family man, can we trade Siham’s freedom with your 15 year old, masterti enda teberarrena,Fair? But I will sweeten the deal: how about for every year Siham spent in your prisons, the prisons u finance with ur words, your underage kid spends a week, so 6 weeks

  • Kokhob Selam

    Dear Abi,

    በቃ ይሁንልህ !!

    KS,,

  • Hawaz Tesfom

    Hi Mr. Saleh,

    That is really funny. You asked the question yourself under the name of Zee and you answered it under the name Saleh Johar. How on earth you, who advocate and support Muslim Brotherhood try to advise what to do in Eritrea? But Eritreans are smarter that you think. In Eritrea all citizens are equal and do not need any lesson from you. Even the Jeberti who are not members of any Eritrean ethnic group are regarded as equal citizens. Please spare your advice and don’t blame the Kebesa/Christians for the situation in Eritrea. Please go back and do your home work, and you will understand that the Eritrean Kebesa/Christians have suffered most, and still keep suffering the most. Mr. Saleh, if you would succeed with your hidden agenda, by now Eritrea would have been under Sharia law!

    Thank you and Kind Regards,
    Hawaz

    • Saleh Johar

      Hawaz,
      1. Now I will do you a favor and tell you something you do not realize: You Are A Bigot.
      2. My name is Saleh, therefore I support the Muslim Brotherhood! Only bigots think that way.
      3. Eritrean are smarter than I think! But since I am Eritrean, thank you for the compliment.
      4. Jeberti with no Eritrean origin. That is the highest award a bigot displays.
      5. Blame KebesaChristians… You can’t change that bigoted thinking even if you wash you bleach your brain.
      6. I have a hidden agenda? a) how did you discover a hidden agenda? b) catchphrase is all you know, a scarecrow to help you attack Muslims.
      7. Please get lost, for God’s sake.
      the sharia court in Eritra

    • Hameed Al-Arabi

      Hi Hawaz,

      More than half of the Ethiopian people are Muslims. Ogaden, Afar, South of Ethiopia and West of Ethiopia are not Habesha, There are regions in Ethiopia where entire population are pagans. I hope, these information will not pulverize you.

      Johar does not need to hide. Lofty people do not conceal themselves, they are like the sun in middle of the sky. I think deceit, crookedness, double-dealing, etc. is your sole job, trademark; otherwise, how you accuse SGJ without any proof. If you have a proof, please present it to the forum and will believe you, or what I have written above will be your traits.

      • Blink

        Dear Hameed
        As you know I don’t even wanted to write down the word Habesha . But what exactly is Habesha ? And how do these people use it ? To what advantages are they pulling this evil word . Is Habesha an ethnic thing ? Is Habesha a culture thing ? Is Habesha a peace thing ?

        It is used to kill people and I mean this based on historical facts.

        I am sorry for anyone who feels bad about my explanation about this word.

    • Fanti Ghana

      Selam Hawaz Tesfom,

      “That is really funny. You asked the question yourself under the name of Zee and you answered it under the name Saleh Johar.”

      It is funnier than you think how pathetic some people can be. He claims to be Habesha with one nick and repeats it again with another nick. Tewaridna bele Abi Arkey!

      Tewaridnako lemi zeben. kid’mo kelashinka amtsi’e, neAywun temal’aley. Shumom inaHatetna khustr kneblom!

      kemakha zimesele tsruy Hebesha abey’rkeb? kulen tenkolatom bebHanti akalayen. ajokha msakha alona!

      • Saleh Johar

        Hi Fanti,
        I am feeling slow…
        What is that all about? Please explain… I may also need a water Kalashnikov gun …

        • Fanti Ghana

          Selamat Memhir,

          ዝዛረቦ ጠፊኡኒ’የ ሃተፍተፍ ኢለ፤፤

          I usually try to see beyond words when people behave as unbecoming as Hawaz Tesfom just did, and I always try to find the slightest positive clue to forgive people when they err, but I get sick to my stomach with the kind of attitude he just exhibited.

          Which people and ideology do people like that represent? If these people have a personal issue with you, why not leave the race, ethnicity, and religion out of it? Then again, I know it is not really as personal as it seems in the outset. You just happened to be a convenient target to puke their deep seated bigotry and immature behavior upon.

          I am not saying this because I know you enough to know what you stand for and what you represent. I am saying it because I recognize when someone is rotten regardless of whom they address. I have been angry all day, so I don’t want to say something I will regret, but you have my at most sympathy for having to listen to this kind of trash as often as you do.

          • Saleh Johar

            Selam Fanti,
            Thank you for explaining. The non sto assault based on my faith is so pervasive I am considering growing some beads, becoming a Wahabi, and give them what they are wishing for 🙂 Believe me I can be as they wish to have me. I have been going through this bigotry since the beginning days of discussion forums–1996. Many could not go over my name and get stuck, others think it is okay to call me names the display their bigotry. But that is life

  • saay7

    Selam Abi:

    The reform I advocated for was not going to be led by IA. And it wasn’t going to be slow:)
    I hate slow. I don’t trust slow talkers or slow walkers:)

    saay

  • Girum Mersha

    1. You have quite a lot of fallacies
    2.Avoid by any means insulting people who dont share your views
    3.Dont make argumentum adhominem
    4.Instead of speculating discuss ideas and substaciate with facts
    5.Dont try to pack a whole problems of the countries in one article
    *then we can get a clear idea of what you are trying to say,but here we are left with something like a highscool boys essay.
    God bless you

  • Selam All,
    Well, the curtain has come down, the fanfare is over, the two protagonists have returned to their respective offices, what now?

    Who is president isaias afewerki today, late july 2018, after revisiting the same place he started from?
    a) He remains the same brutal dictator,
    b) He is now a changed man.

    He was full of love for the ethiopian people holding his heart to show them he loved them, only that he seemed not to know where exactly his heart lies, right-middle-left chest, because his hands were all over the place. 😁

    If is the answer is a, then, there is something wrong with this person, something mental (if i may say so), that he has no contact with the world around him. There were/are dictators all over africa. Nevertheless, their main reason is that they need the power mainly to loot their country. When as in the case of eritrea, where there is little to rob, then hate for his own people could be the main reason for his callousness. But, why?
    In this case the ethiopian pm has failed in his mission to bring the dictator from isolation and make him more compassionate to his people, and their future relations could be precarious.

    If b is the answer, the one i expect to be, then eritreans will see the future with some hope. Of course, a dictator does not give everything, nevertheless, he may start to release political prisoners, gradually end the open end military service, allow people at least to freely move within their country, and open borders, etc.
    In this case the ethiopian pm will be satisfied with his achievement, and he could say it is worth it, despite all the defaming. From this point on, it is up to eritreans to achieve more political rights by themselves.

    • iSem

      Dear Horizon:
      IA remains brutal dictator, the love he showed, the kisses his blew to Ethiopians should not fool anyone, but it is fooling many, unfortunately. IA could not believe his luck, how he pulled this off. The hands which did not know where his hear is, one of them is tattood with the blood of IA, Mussue, long disappeared in 1973 and Haile D, who died in prison according Saccistim. I have never seen IA this happy and this tells me he never believe he has accomplished his dream before. PMZ said that IA wanted to be with ethiopia but his hands were tied in 1993 vote for separation.
      PFDJ will spread rumors that prisoners have been released, but no political prisoner will be released and even if he releases the surviving political prisoners and lets them go home with no explanation, no forgiveness, not recognition then that is the same old because IA has released pol prisoners before but in the absence of the virtues of reconciliation it is useless. It will please the morons who are dancing now and will appease the likes of Semmere T and Gheteb X and they will litter this forums with the news. Gheteb will be all over her conversing in tongues, PFDJ tongues and he will forget to cash his disability check and when those around him remind him, he will reply, “Oblitus non sum” (nay, I did not forget), I am just fasting, the holly month of July when IA came from the cold
      If Eriterans do not take matters on their hands and hold IA accountable by saying: now Ethio is gone, where is rule of law and rise, IA will transition them to a pure totaliterian rule as he gets money and the debate between my friends Sal and Ghezae will be settled. If those who told us border first do not hold him accountable then it is Oromai for Eritrea as an independent country
      Only minions are be satisfied with more electricity, with more money in their pockets, with the convenience of visiting your uncle in asmara through direct flight, in a country with some pride left IA should have been toppled while giving that speech or arrested in the airport. But our country in infested with bad guys, I know there are good guys and gals but their hands are tied and they have learning disability and that is my fear is they will attempt something and will be crashed

      • Simon Kaleab

        Selam Semere A.,

        Could you possibly desist from personal attack on Gheteb by referring to his [attributed] condition? This is in the interest of civilised discourse.

        • iSem

          Hi Simon:
          Thank you so much. I will heed your call. And thank for mild civilized tone lately and your prices and sharp comments
          I hope u understand that we had history with Gheteb and my insults pale in comparison to mine and I did not respond in kind then but now I cannot help it when I see him tell none truth at the expense of the live of those that PFDJ has murdered

          • Blink

            Dear isem
            No it’s not that Gheteb can’t reply but it would be a failure to do so. You are becoming nasty by the day just because your weyane has no say in the MEDEMER time. How on Earth you bring someone’s disability? I understand you have a free pass in this forum but don’t you have any shame in yourself?

          • iSem

            hi Blink:
            who appointed u “zeray” I did not say Ghehtef cannot reply. He has all the time and Latin to do so.
            No am getting milder because I have to live long and healthy to kick your behinds, No I do not have a free pass in this form, my comments get deleted, my articles get rejected if they do not follow the rules. So learn how to tell truth for once.
            Gheteb has said worse than me to me, now u are so insulted by me brining his disability and where were u?
            U see Simon won me when he asked me and I respect him and my apology is to him and the rest who deserve and have some decency. You guys have no acquaintance with decency and truth and justice. So I do not take lessons from the PFDJ. B

          • ‘Gheteb

            Selam Blink,

            Firstly, I would like to tell you and whoever may be interested to know that I have NO disability. None whatsoever! I am healthy and gainfully employed and a family man, to boot. All of this can be proven publicly if iSem would come up again with a bet of $50,000 USD to prove what he is alleging against me to be true publicly. Yeah, a challenge that I know he won’t raise up to, because he is a cravenly low life person.

            Secondly, if you remember there is a documented evidence in this Forum that I can produce that CHALLENGED all the unfounded lies that iSem was dishing out and propagating in this Forum to which I have put a bet of $ 50,000 USD. He never raised to the challenge and instead opted to hide and not face the challenge put in front of him. Another proof that he is laying layer of the worst sort.

            Thirdly, the reason he is resorting to personal attacks is because he cannot challenge what I write in this Forum. And, the stuff I write about is way above him. I mean it is beyond his ken. Frustrated by his inability to counter my comments, he resorts to personal attacks by spouting lies that he can never back when challenged to come out publicly and put MONEY in a bet that he unfailingly runs away from.

            Fourthly, not only is he given ” a free pass in this Forum”, he has the tacit support of The Moderator of this Forum to do the hatchet job against me and others. I have never seen a warning against him. None whatsoever and that speaks volumes. But then again, those of us who could think geometrically are not surprised one bit by this glaring double standard.

            Fifthly, if you have noticed, it is also documented, I don’t mention iSem in any of my comments or notes. At the risk of sounding arrogant and pompous, I don’t consider him to be in my level at all and he is way, way beneath me and I don’t want to waste my time talking or communicating with him. From his side, though, you would rarely not find ‘Gheteb this and ‘Gheteb that obsession that borders to monomania.

            Finally, so far as I am concerned, he can say whatever he wants against me, but that $50,000 bet as a CHALLENGE is still hanging over his head.

          • Blink

            Dear Gheteb
            I was just challenging his nastiness because he has the right to refute whatever he finds unacceptable from your side and also he can use another crude words but he jump on making personal attack. I have a disabled friend who is contributing to his second country immensely but from Semere Andom point of view he thinks negatively about people with disabilities and that shows you how nasty his attitude is.
            As I said this time is very hard for people like him who were beating the weyane drum. Let’s give peace the chance is really not a good view to such people.

        • Abraham H.

          Selam Simon Kaleab, I agree, I’ve also seen Gehteb and Tsatse using physical disability to mock iSem in this forum. They were both calling him ዓይነ ስዉር, ewur, etc

          • ‘Gheteb

            Selam Abraham H.,

            Oh, my! Oh, my! How soon do you forget!! Haven’t you publicly announced that you were going to ignore me, nay, ignore me ETERNALLY. Yeah, yeah, you are going to say you were not responding to me directly. However, you are speaking about me here and I think you are, wittingly or unwittingly, misrepresenting certain things here.

            Here is what I wrote verbatim about iSem:

            ” ‘Gheteb GitSAtSE 23 days ago
            Hi Sol,
            What I ate in ከሰላ ዩኒስኮ ሃይ ስኩል?
            Me ate Bamia and Mulokhia
            Me ate Ful with Tamia
            Me, you know a die-hard ShaEbia
            Me adorned a Jalabia
            Me drank The barley Haja Barada
            Me not liked AbaEke (Fenugreek)
            Me NOT part of the Fenugreek group
            Me and only one other person out of 300 students in ከሰላ ዩኒስኮ ሃይ ስኩል? were ShaEbia.
            The rest were from a group called Jebhia

            Now you know why me not like the purblinded lot and the eye-sight challenged. My main man, Sol, me not like the one you are asking about.

            Let alone to call him ” ዓይነ ስዉር, ewur, etc”, I didn’t even mention his nick. So, Abraham H., you are challenged to produce your evidence here, if you have any. Yeah, you are asked to substantiate your claim. That is all!

        • Hope

          Selamat Simon KaleAb:’
          Thanks Simon!
          Am amused as to why iSem is obsessed with personal issues here publically with Gheteb!

          Prob old grudges!

          Did u see how lately Tsatse was attacking Gheteb?

          It is SCARY!

          There is a reason as to why some of us try (but to no avail)to hide our ID.

          I don’t see any benefit for them to attack other people’s persona and worse going deep into personal issues.

          Gheteb and all others including Hope,have a right to believe in and support any one and any entity they want .

          Did u notice that even the “Senior Moderator” threatened Gheteb that it is just a click away-to ban him simply coz of his position about the PFDJ and and his opinion!

          I think they should learn from Dr Aboy Ahmed Ali about LOVE and MEDEMER and about Reconciliation.

    • Hameed Al-Arabi

      Salam Horizon,

      Does he has a heart to know its location? He has walked over thousands of innocent Eritrean corpses to reach his present stage. He has duped Eritreans as a hunter who deceives his prey. This little-man is not a man of peace; Dr. Abie Ahmed and the Ethiopian people should pay much attention, or he will beguile them; he is an expert in this field. He has exercised it upon the people of Eritrea for about fifty years.

    • Abraham H.

      Selam Horizon, this is my observation about dictator Isayas Afwerki:
      -DIA has never shown a portion of the ‘love’ that he expressed to the Ethiopians in his visit to Addis to the people of Eritrea, though I highly doubt it was a genuine love. A brute cannot fake true compassion
      -He despises Eritreans, I think he has some sort of identity complex, because he is said to hail from Tigray, at least on father side
      -He hates ending up being the leader of the tiny, poor Eritrea, instead of his dream Ethiopia
      -He has no any goodwill towards the Eritrean people whatsoever
      -He doesn’t share Eritreans’ wish for development and prosperity of their country, rather he wants to keep Eritrea poor and downtrodden
      -He feels he is God sent to rule over Eritreans, and Eritreans cannot make it without him, forgetting that like anybody else his lifetime on this earth is limited
      -Isayas’ reign in Eritrea will only end either by forcing him out (highly unlikely), or by natural cause/death. There is a high probability he would seek to pass the reign to his son

      • saay7

        Selamat Abraham:

        One of the many surreal things I am witnessing now is that you are having to explain this, of all people, to Horizon. Until about, oh, one month ago, Horizon could recite chapter and verse all the criminal acts of Isaias Afwerki.

        What we have had recently is Hope acquired by the triumph of short memories. People will be jolted out of it when Isaias does another cruel thing.

        saay

        • Selam saay,

          Here is a big eritrean problem called dictator isaias afewerki, nobody has done anything about over the last half century. He finds a mentor, takes a pilgrimage, gets baptised and achieves divine enlightenment, (and let us say), wants to do something good for the people to whom he has done so much injustice.

          Is it possible for the people on the receiving end of his injustice, to say ‘NO’ we don’t want to leave prison, interrupt military service, implement the constitution, etc, because you are the one who put us in this predicament in the first place, and you are the one who brought us to this horrible situation.

          Can anyone deny the people the chance, the small freedom the dictator may give in his hour of enlightenment, what nobody else could give them up to now, or will give them in the immediate future, because it is the dictator who is going to do it?

          Is it possible to tell the people to wait in this horrible situation until the demise of the dictator? Even then, we don’t know who is going to replace him, and he could be even worse.

          It is not about short memory, but about a choice in a difficult situation, and what is good for the suffering people. Is it possible to do politics at the expense of others? NO. Is it wrong to exploit the smallest chance available that may alleviate the suffering? NO.

          It is not about PMAA or DIA. It is about the PEOPLE (i do not have the right to say that i worry about your people more than you do). Nevertheless, if one cannot change things himself/herself, it is only logical to accept every good chance that may pop up, however small it may be. It is not appeasing with the dictator, or revering the ethiopian pm.

          It is not the end of the battle for democracy, freedom and human rights. Whoever wants to continue, the battle will not end with the little things the dictator may do. It is only one small interval that could benefit the people, encourage them to demand for more, and even help them participate in the battle, if there are going to be leaders, who will show them the way.

          • saay7

            Selam Horizon:

            “He finds a mentor, takes a pilgrimage, gets baptised and achieves divine enlightenment, (and let us say), wants to do something good for the people to whom he has done so much injustice”

            I am copying and pasting this to get you to read it. Do you actually believe it: that Isaias a 70 something year old politician who has been in the game since his 20s, sees a “mentor” in Abiy? A man who gives engineers advice on how to design, farmers on how to plant, is going to be mentored on politics by Abiy?

            saay

            saay

          • Selam saay,

            Only time can give us the answer.
            If he remains the brute he is, you win.
            If he changes by doing something that will benefit the people, like freeing political prisoners, ending the extended military service, and giving some rudimentary rights to the people, i win.
            This is a chance of a lifetime to save himself from the difficult position he has put himself in.

          • saay7

            Horizon:

            Ere be slasse, Horizon: how do I “win” if he remains a brute? A brute brutalizes and the people he brutalizes are my people.

            You can’t expect a carnivore to be a vegetarian; a predator to stop hunting. If he releases 50 political prisoners, he will arrest 100 the same day or same week. The 50 will grab the headlines, the 100 won’t.

            Today he met with Andargachew, yesterday with Abiy, tomorrow with Johar. If after 40 years of IA being IA you don’t learn about IA, well then what can I say? መከራ ይመክራቹሃል

            Saay

          • Selam saay,

            Where are the people who could do the right (perfect) job, who would not try to hoodwink the people, by releasing some from prison and incarcerating even more? That is the main problem almost two decades later after he started his horrendous crime.

            Two eal flights to asmara today, the road to assab is already being repaired on both sides of the border, and we don’t know what tomorrow will bring.

            Now, the million dollar question is, will the ethiopian pm say that eritrean internal affairs are not his responsibility, or is he going to demand for democratic changes in eritrea, at least to the level of ethiopia? If the ethiopian pm says that he is a reformist and a democrat, he would find difficult to continue to work with the dictator, if he continues to do the same thing or something similar.

            DIA has either to reform himself or descend from the rapprochement wagon. PMAA would not like to be called an enabler of a dictator, i hope. It is not only him, it is also the usa, eu, au, igad, and many others, who expect to see democratic changes in eritrea.

            This time over, if the dictator does not change, after exposing himself to the world community on the side of peace and normalcy, and if he again defaults on freedom and human rights, he might not find even his old friends on his side anymore. He may be aware of this.

            If there are people who think that there remains nothing to fight for in eritrea after that, they are making a big mistake. Mugabe and others were deposed by exploiting the little democratic rights these dictators gave to their people.

          • saay7

            Selamat Horizon:

            First, let me begin by agreeing with you that the Mugabe model (or any model a dictator is forced to adopt) can and should be used as a means to create political space. I have often said that Eritrea is the only country in the world where “reform”, “reformer” are suspect words. I am not a revolutionary but an evolutionary. Evolutionary need not be slow or tentative: it can be radical and fast.

            The case of Ethiopia under Abiy is a perfect case of evolutionary and radical change. But Abiy emerged because there were organizations and constitution. Abiy replaced the old guard. What we have in Eritrea is a one man show, no constitution and no organizations.

            What I am being asked to believe is the new guard (New Isaias) is replacing the old guard (pre-Abiy Isaias.) How? You are saying Abiy is that transformative. Some Pentecostals are saying it’s because IA has accepted Jesus Christ as his savior. Gheteb is saying, it is only conditions that forced his hand to take extreme measures to protect Eritrea’s sovereignty (paraphrasing).

            I agree with you changes are coming. Said them here in these pages and radio interviews. Where I think we are differing is that all these changes are being done not to hand power over to the people but to consolidate Isaias’s and his designated heirs.

            The minimal* demands of the opposition remain:

            * release all prisoners and make reparations
            * limit National Service to 18 months;
            * lift the defacto state of emergency
            * end the culture of impunity that has made our people victims in their own country
            * implement the constitution
            * initiate Truth and Reconciliaton

            Again, these are the minimal demands with others saying the National Service has to be scrapped, a new constitution has to be drafted after a transitional gov, these changes only return us to the same old exclusionary non-participatory status quo etc.

            This is why you are not seeing us jump and down with excitement yet. We don’t think the same person who engineered Eritrea’s conversion to a police state can make it a free state.

            saay

          • Selam saay,

            On something slightly different.

            From what i understood, reuter news agency seems to have said that the former pm of ethiopia HMD, who as we all know, resigned recently from his position, was on board the B787 to asmara.

            If so, what sort of message would a resigned pm be carrying to an old dictator, whom everybody would have liked to see him resign from power with dignity. I believe that he will see IA. Could they be discussing this subject over a coffee. What do you think?

            The problem is that we are not aware of anybody who has been groomed to replace him.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Horizon,

            One thing the Abiy Government will learn from the Eritrean Government is, how to keep everything secret. You will notice it very soon in the near future.

          • Amde

            Hi saay,

            Well few things blow my mind, but this “Some Pentecostals are saying it’s because IA has accepted Jesus Christ as his savior. ” sure did.

            I wouldn’t put it past Abiy the Evangelical to believe he can change the heart of every sinner, even such a one as IA. He may even feel he is called by God for
            this sacred mission.

            We keep thinking of him as politician first, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he sees himself as a man of faith first. It is important to him. As an Ethiopian politician the most people see or hear is about his “God Bless Ethiopia”, but he appears to be working hard to repair rifts within faiths and between faiths.

            IA’s heart would be a tough nut to crack, and God knows it is not an appropriate thing for a politician to indulge in. The schmoozing this past weekend was way over the top for the grubby materialism of money and power. But as a “spiritual” or “psychological” run at the literal “Winning Hearts and Minds” thing, it makes a lot more sense.

            You can call me crazy..

            Amde

          • saay7

            Sir Amde:

            Like almost everyone, I have watched almost all public meetings PM Abiye has held since his name was floated as front runner for PM position and what he did, and how he did, his interactions with P Isaias is consistent with everything he has done in all his interactions with everyone else. Whether that is religious, political, religio-political, Politico-religious, it’s all consistent and therefore understandable to me.

            But P Isaias’s behavior (words and action) was entirely inconsistent with everything we know about him. The whole thing did not have the gravitas the ocassion called for. If you are a young Eritrean who got injured in the Badme wars because you were told this is a war to protect Eritrea’s sovereignty, if you have been guarding the border since 1999 because you were told your land is sacred and its independence non negotiable, how would you feel if your president introduces what he is going to say by saying “I wasn’t prepared to give a speech?” Or tells you henceforth there is no difference between Eritreans and Ethiopians? Or tells you he is going to Addis because the people has delegated him to speak but never consults people: not the parliament nor the elders? Or doesn’t visit the residents of the people who lives in villages bordering Eritrea who are internally displaced and live in Gash Barka?

            These are the questions of Rumana Berhanu Mohammed Nur: enlisted in 1997 when she was 16, injured at the Badme front in 1999, exiled to Sweden. She has a brother who has been in “National Service” since 1999. And she is hearing her former Chief commanding officer saying “we lost nothing”, and is staring at her one missing arm. She concluded the Prez is not well and while she had always been proud of her disability because she did it in the service of her country, now she is asking herself questions.

            I don’t know how good your Tigrinya is but please listen to her 12 minute audio clip in SBS radio. Can’t provide a link: just google SBS radio Australia and look for the Tigrinya program.

            Then, maybe you will get a clue as to why some of us are somber. Because our government refuses to pause to reflect. And if people want to call us miserable, and anti-peace, they can but they won’t be correct.

            saay

          • Amde

            Hi saay,

            I completely understand the position towards IA. What you stated is logical. One hopes there would be an accounting for the utter senselessness of the war and the even more ridiculousness of the post-war. IA deserves all the criticism he gets.

            What I was objecting to is the reflexive and gratuitous Abiy bashing. You know I was unhappy he took this on so early in his post. Events will probably show my instinct was right. But still, for all the criticism he gets, it is hard – at least for me – not to be moved by the joys of simple families. When was the last time one heard of a prison in Eritrea being closed? I cannot point to a chain of events from Abiy to the shuttering of Adi Beyto, but I would imagine there is some relationship. I am not asking that he be praised, but bashing him on this particular day is un-reason-able.

            Saay, I am rather a skeptic on the whole institutions and constitutions thing with politicians in our neck of the woods. I am afraid Dawit’s anachronism of ዝነገሰ ንጉሥና is still very much current in the culture of our region. Abiy is a mystery – so far a nice surprise – that one could not have predicted to emerge from the recesses of the EPRDF/FDRE sausage factory. About the only thing one could have reasonably predicted would be an Oromo speaking Hailemariam Dessalegn. I still shiver thinking we would be “celebrating” 100 Days of the pogromist ሽፈራው ሽጉጤ’s Premiership … we were thiiiiis close. Some variation of “Pinch me I must be dreaming” has become a sport of sorts among Ethiopians. Sometimes we get lucky. Oftentimes we are not – and hence our fixations with destiny and as we say in Amharic የአርባ ቀን እድል።

            So perhaps sometimes we should appreciate the occasional breaks in the clouds, even knowing nothing is guaranteed. Like the hundreds of happy Eritrean families today.

            The “rational” side of me understands what you are saying – Isayyas is too old to change, cost of change is too high for him so he wont, PFDJ is full of self-serving yes-men interested in maintaining the status quo etc…. But, I still think normalization offers a great opening to counter his hold. Abiy has gone way beyond what would have been reasonably expected of him. Maybe there will come a time when one can accuse him of being an active collaborator in IA’s repression. But we are not there yet.

            Amde

          • saay7

            Sir Amde:

            I am very happy for you that you have PM Abiye as your premiere. He is probably the best thing to happen to Ethiopia since the Dibaba sisters were born.

            On the release of prisoners. To repeat myself (again), the thing that won me over with Abiy (I was a skeptic, remember) is when he released prisoners. So, I am a huge fan of releasing prisoners. So, what is we know for sure? BBC Tigrinya told us 25 prisoners were released and Radio Erena told us it was actually 400, and official media said nothing. About the take every good news and celebrate: it is kinda hard to do this when your head can’t stop shaking. Consider: Pastor Suraphel Demissie, a Pentecostal who doesn’t believe in the sovereignty of Eritrea as a state, flew to Asmara, was given a heroes welcome at the airport (whom he addressed, as Berhe Y mentioned); meanwhile there are many many Eritreans who can’t go home. There are Massawan Eritreans who can’t go home, haven’t gone home for decades; meanwhile, the Eritrean embassy just issued an announcement to Ethiopians on how to get a permanent visa to Massawa. For free.

            saay

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Saay,

            It is a matter of time, to see them crying, when they see him back at his game to interfere in the internal affairs of Ethiopia, either in the struggle of ascending to power within their medemer formula, or through his tactic of divide and rule that he became an expert at it within our society for decades. Dictators can not be the leaders of peace time, nor could be the promoters of peace. Who will be the teacher in the marriage agreement? Of course the one who is experienced on the intrigues of politics. So Ethiopians should cross their fingers as to who will be the mentor and who will be baptized in the intrigues of geopolitics of the Horn.

          • saay7

            Emma:

            It’s not even a matter of time; it has started already. In his address to the Millenium Hall Issu-chanters, he said “we are not going to allow anyone to disturb our harmony or development.” The word he repeated for emphasis was “anyone.” When he says we won’t allow anyone I don’t think he means we will write “to whom it may concern” letters.

            So many delusional people in the Horn. The first flight of EAL had Pentecostals who are so thrilled Peace is here: in a country where their religion is banned and their co-religionists are in jail.

            saay

  • Zee

    Hello-

    I’m “Abesha” Ethiopian, and I’ve I always wondered where the lowland non Tig-ray Eritreans were cause I’ve only seen one or two here and there. Mostly, I see them on Ethiopian Airlines posters (lol) who could forget the handsome matted Beni Amer boy with the beautiful smile with the whitest teeth. Wonder what happened to him?

    I think you might be harsh on Abeshas- are they any different from any other people in the horn with their religious fanaticism and war like culture?.It’s just they have a Christian dominated world to back them.
    Anyways, great post.

    • Saleh Johar

      Selam Zee,

      And I am an Eritrean Habesha
      I appreciate your courage. Indeed, not many ask the question you asked, where are the other half of Eritrea ?

      For beginners, please realize I cannot be harsh on myself because I am Habesha myself. But our kind are not big on self appraisal and that cultural deficiency is what I was addressing.

      I am asking nothing more than a closure, dagmawi qebr so that we can burry our bitterness and herald a new epoch. Start by respecting every citizen’s right not their racial or geographic affiliation. That is when we can start afresh without bitterness not gimmicks of addition which turns out to be a subtraction. It’s my view and I am screaming so that some sane people can hear me out and see what the pain is. I believe you have the ability to appreciate the words of someone who tried to tell it as honestly as possible. I am just begging for honest ears to listen. That is not asking too much for an aggreviate citizen.

      Thank you

      • Zee

        You are welcome Saleh and thank you for your response. What is wonderful about the rise of Dr. Abiye Ahmed is that by his very existence, the people in the periphery..the Oromo, the Muslim have come forefront in the Abesha scene with a vengeance for one of their own is now the most popular leader EVER. Who would have thought that in Orthodox Tewehado dominated Ethiopia, who view the Muslim and Oromo hater Atse Tewdros as their idol now idolize an Oromo and Muslim background man? Granted he has an Abesha first name, his mother is Amhara, and he is a converted Christian, but still.

        So there is progress in the right direction..I think. Amharas will sell their mother to anyone who believes in “andenet”

        The murder and maiming of Eritrean civilians, especially lowland Muslim Eritreans is not know at all in Ethiopia (maybe we don’t want to know?) and it is from reading Awate posts that I learned that the war was really fought mostly in the lowlands and atrocious on the civilians there. I always wondered why Asmara was left intact, no missile, no bombs, but Massawa was bombed.

        This webpage is an eye opener for me. I wish more Ethiopians would read the material here. Ethiopians can’t reconcile with anyone yet because we don’t even know the pain our regimes have caused, so yes, please keep screaming till the message gets thru.

        Best

        • Kaddis

          Dear Zee – glad you made it here 🙂

          Awate is our university (8/9 years for me since Amanuel Sahel time) about Ethiopia. I have no strong opinion on your view in fact relate a lot. The only remark would be of the use of the term Amhara – while you want to say I think – the Amharic mainstream or Unity camp etc…

          The Amhara is after so many years is detaching from the Amharic unity camp and rightly so.

        • AMAN

          Hi Zee
          Shalom !
          I agree with most but not all the facts you stated however I disagree with the approach and strategy that had been in use by our politicians assuming you be one or follower of them.
          1. About the conservative view many or majority of the people in the society holds.
          I agree with you Ethiopian society is religiously, culturally and socially conservative with a bigger portion of it still in underdevelopment and below poverty line.
          How ever this fact is not new and has always been there for any Eritrean generation who moved or went to Ethiopia for any reason for studying or living there and it is not something you can blame on the people’s but only the result of colonial legacy, unliberated government & system and corrupted Administration
          and political culture that took a toll on and left the people victimized and the society broken. Blame this on the successive regimes who governed Ethiopia in the past. And there is nothing you can do about it overnight or in the life span of one or two generation. Such cultural changes always require the life time of two or three generations at the least. So I suggest to you to view it with this fact in mind.
          To continue.
          Second , if you have wish to see the change you’ve mentioned the right approach and strategy is to go to the center and not away from the center as your ability to influence and effect such changes with even leaving your own finger prints for the sake of it, history or own legacy depends on the distance of your point or you. The more you go closer to the center the
          more influence you effect
          and the more you pull away from the center the less influence you effect.

        • AMAN

          ( Continued……)
          And in case you didn’t know this
          FYI
          These successive Ethiopian regimes have loved that so
          ( when Eritreans – leaders & the masses flee away from the center ) much because they were doing their job for them voluntarily.

    • Brhan

      Hi Zee,
      And the word Abesha or Habesha comes from an Arabic word meaning mixed i.e. mixed people , or diverse people ….The word is stronger than any sayings about Habesha.
      Thanks for your comment

  • iSem

    Hi Ayneta:
    I will address both of your comments here
    I disagree with you that IA will reform, to reach to that conclusion we have to trace his track record, he will not reform in the sense of releasing pol prisoners or implementation of rule of law. But he may reform in terms of ensuring his legacy and may have plans for his replacement
    He just told the sawa recruits tighten your belts, that is a code for the project or warsay ykealo. He holds the people to much contempt and am sure he will dare them. He may also strike a committee to draft his const. Now the people have one last chance, we will see if all the talk let first our borders be demarcated. Now what?
    I except new purging of those who frowned about his Abiye dalliance and with the money some let up in the economy may fool some, but as fundamental change, I will bet against it
    About tegadality, I am critical of their failures, but they are not all the beneficiaries of the PFDJ loot. Mahmud Saleh/ I am not sure what is sadder his renegade or IA mocking
    I think MS was privy to what will come from his higher echelon friends. The lesson is this: be distrustful about former tegadalty and young people who came directly. MS was subtly pivoting to PFDJ in the last 2 years with his relentless attack on the opposition. He refused NOT lump all the opposition in one basket. He said the opposition wanted to ride TPLF tanks, now he is feeling giddy about IA riding the Ethio plane not to go to Eritrea but to depart to Ethiop, at least the opposition were hitchhiking to get him

    • Saleh Johar

      iSem,
      I think I have to fight with you! You are spoiling it for the kind, just, fair, and jeganu individuals who are just proving their loyalty and assenting their sole ownership of Eritrea under the liberator in chief. Why would you stand on their way towards cleaning up their exclusive club? What is wrong with attempting to perpetuate the system of first class and second class citizenship? Without that, we cannot recognize Eritrea and we might think it is some other country. Slow down my dear traitor.

  • David Samson

    Selam Ayneta,

    Good observation!

    The other day, I was chanting with some ex-fighters, of whom two were senior officials. I asked them this question: on reflection, how do you see the need and role of “Halewa Sowra”? With in sight, do you think it was needed? They stared at me as if I just dropped from mars. Since they seem to have “Lost in transaction”, I was bluntly told them why the need to murder all these innocent people, it just because they tended to hold different views?

    Well, the reply was “No body is above Angkar (“Organization”). The indomitable YG put it “To preserve the Sowar”. Askalu, the tourist minister, husband has been in prison for years. “He is not above the Sowra, after all.
    This country called Eritrea is cursed and doomed until the Gedli generation somehow miraculously disappear from the scene.

  • dawit

    Selam Ayneta
    There is nothing contradictory in my message. May be you are a resent member to AT but my stand about PIA leadership is always clear. I prescribe to the school of our tradition of ‘znegesna Ngusna, Zbereq Tsehyna’ or ‘Nsu Nhna’ the slogan of the Hafash Hzbi Etitrea fully accept the philosophy . Again long live PIA and Awet Nhafash!

    dawit

  • Mitiku Melesse

    Hei, all.
    Very funny article. This is how i understand it. No country can make a bilateral relation or peace with the Eritrean government until Saleh ‘Gadi’ Johar wins his battle against PIA and Eritrean government. And the plan to win the PIA administration is not known. It is a top secrate.

    I dont think Saleh means that when woyane cripples the Eritrean economy by this nonsense no war no peace completely then Saleh controls Asmara and shows what a holistic peace and democracy looks like. No, he knows a woyane which makes Eritrea cripple gives him a space for the perfect democracy. (And wake up Saleh, woyane has lost its power).

    What about the millions who support the peace agreement, the millions who do suffer by this no peace no war to make the PIA administration kneel down by remote control, What about creating job opportunities, what about parents who suffer because their children wondering all over the world illegally, what about living like the rest of third world do but with out the majority of Eritreans pays the maximum price while the minority live abroad and enjoy the sacrifice they have paid to reach their comfortable life. And we say life is short and we see no sign of tanabeil activits by any oppostions of Eritreans.

    So leave PIA alone until you come up with a better solution. You people with out your intention you punish the people. The more ideal you become with your untouchable western democracy the more you make both government and people skeptics to what you are up to.

    This one Eritrean told me. ” I dont like Isayas because he put my father in prison. But i dont want PIA to be removed from power because in side the country we dont have any strong man or institution which replace PIA without anarchy and the oppositions work for our enemies”.

    • Gedion

      Selam,
      I also found his/Saleh’s resistance to change disheartening. He wants to history to stop at 1950s so as to provide a narrative of victimhood for discord and war. History belongs in the museum, and books. Of course history should inform our politics and provide us with perspective that help us avoid mistakes. But history should not dictate current politics. Politics should be about solving problems and improving the lives of people. And it is should be liberating. To move to this land we have to disentangle our politics from out politics. Ethiopia and Eritrea need politics that looks forward!!

      • Saleh Johar

        Hello Gedion,
        You need to join the “Medemer Class” because you accuse me of wanting “history to stop at 1950s so as to provide a narrative of victimhood for discord and war.”

        That is not supported by any sane argument, it is just you to trying hard to sound smart. Then you says, “Of course history should inform our politics and provide us with perspective that help us avoid mistakes.”

        Now what if I argued, I am informed by history which is providing me with a perspective to avoid past mistakes.?

        You see, you bring illogical, and contradictory arguments and unknowingly you start in the fifties and take us to the fifties! Why does history annoy you if it should inform our politics–or, it is only when it serves your madness. Ajaaayeb!!

    • Saleh Johar

      Hello Mitiku,
      If you understand the article, not just glance at it, one of the problems it addressed is the obsession of your types with defeating and vanquishing. When did Saleh Gadi ever say he wants to control anything at all? See! It’s your sickness to see things in terms of controlling. And that is the gist of the problem. And what is funny is not the article, it is you decreasing the struggle for rights of a citizen to your dirty feud with the Weyane. I have nothing to do with that feud, it is all your obsession, the rest of us are just pulled in because that is the raison d’etre for your types. You always need an enemy, and your kens happen to be the most legitimate target for the moment. Not my feud smart man.

      Your main problem is also not recognzeing the concern of other whom you think are forewood for the fires you ignite. The struggle started when you were up in arms against Ethiopia, to the extent of banning Amharic language, when myself and my colleagues were telling you it was wrong. You lost your mind. Now you discovered peace that you abhorred for two decades, and still you are right–let’s forget how we arrived to where we are. Pathetic indeed.

      You see, you can leave the dictator alone, you always have, but don’t victimize people who didn’t chose to be wobbly, unprincipled, reckless, dirty-mouthed, whose only perfected tool is injustice and victimization of others who do not join your choir. Cut it out, you have done enough damage already.

  • Ayneta

    Dear Awate:
    Now that the border issue has been addressed and Ethiopia is not more the inherent emesis, the question of managing the internal strife of Eritrea will be interesting to watch. I believe the recent watershed events have left IA totally naked and exposed. I don’t think he has thought deep about the series of events that will follow the recent developments. His hasty decision was fundamentally driven by personal grudge against TPLF and not well-thought reasoning. He saw an opportunity to maximally hurt the TPLF leadership and he jumped at it without due thinking. The result is that all the flood gates are now open and he will have hard time to justify his iron fist- style of leadership.
    I say he will have no choice but to reform.
    In the mean time, one cant help but wonder: what was all the fuss in the last 20 years if our relationship with Ethiopia was all merry and cozy like IA is trying to tell us? I feel all the blood shed during the last 20 years in the name of defending the motherland was in vain!

  • Amde

    Selam Awatistas,

    I understand Memhir SGJs point, but I think the Habesha bashing in some of the responses are over the top. Makes them sound like extra-terrestrial with different fears and ambitions than any other people on the planet.

    But, I would like to ask a tangential but fundamental question.

    Is there room in the Eritrean political space for neo-Andinetists?

    Statistically speaking, one can assume a good proportion of the crowds that came out to greet PMAA can be considered at least proto-neo-Andinetists. Successful economic integration will probably increase that number.

    What say you?

    Amde

    • Brhan

      Hello Amde,
      The new generation in Eritrea ( the crowd that you missed) hardly have a clue about ELF , let alone Andinet!

    • Berhe Y

      Dear Amde,

      I can tell you if I was in Asmara, I would one of the people who would line up and greet the PM visit. It’s to show love and respect to the PM and the Ethiopian people, for creating the opportunity for peace and giving hope to the ERITREAN people.

      His message when he took power resonate with a lot of people including Eritreans, for that I think he was seen as a positive agent of change and hope.

      If the PM had visited Keren or Massawa, I would not expect the reaction was any different.

      What followed was a human tragic story of separated families and neighbours found opportunity to unite and express joy.

      Beyond that, I wouldn’t read too much into it. The neo-andinet thing, may be there is the desire in the Ethiopian side but absolutely none on the Eritrean side, that would warrant a significant shift.

      Berhe

    • Ismail AA

      Selam gash Amde,

      I paused a bit to think how a tangential becomes fundamental simultaneously. Subjectively, the quick answer would be yes. There could be space for any political activity with in a society. But objectively, could it there be room for anachronistic ideas and projects that may try to resuscitate in some contingent political and social environments? The reasonable answer would could be that there could be stillborn prepositions on condition they would find life sustaining extra-equipped political and social incubators, which the objective conditions in Eritrea would not provide.

      The only suspect incubators could be the hard core elements that control the reigning dictatorship and their leader. They may decide to take unionism as last tool to keep their sinking ship afloat The events of the last couple of weeks have provided signs that cannot be ignored.

      You might wonder why I am saying this. But I should indicate to you that you might remember that the dictator had entrusted the management of the referendum as crucial and sensitive as it was to declared unionist gentleman. Add to this, pre-Badime debacle flirtations to undermine borders and floating unionist frameworks such as confederation which some intellectuals with unionist covert or overt tendencies have picked to promote.

      But, as I stated there would not be any room to exchange sovereignty and territorial integrity for anything else. I mean economic integration as such cannot become an end in its own right. Sovereign interaction and engagement between nations provide grounds for mutually beneficial economic relations. This has been demonstrated by post WWII western European countries though the future will have to show whether such projects have lasting permanency.

      • Mez

        Dear Ismael A A,

        For example, the rotation of our earth around the sun is always tangential–and very fundamental for life on earth at the same time.

        Thanks

        • Ismail AA

          Dear Mez,
          I thought we were discussing politics and not how our universe is ordered.

    • Semere Tesfai

      Selam Amde

      1. – “Is there room in the Eritrean political space for neo-Andinetists?”

      At this moment? Absolutely not!

      2.- “Statistically speaking, one can assume a good proportion of the crowds that came out to greet PMAA can be considered at least proto-neo-Andinetists.”

      If “the crowds that came out to greet PMAA can be considered proto-neo-Andinetists”, then could you call the crowds that were waving Eritrean flags in Amara and Oromia lands ተገንጣዮች? Or what do you think Ethiopians were celebrating during Isaias Afewerki’s visit to to Ethiopia?

      3. – The celebration of Eritreans and Ethiopians these past weeks and months has nothing, yes nothing to do with the prospect of UNITY of these two people or UNITY of these two nations. It has everything to do with:

      A. – A sigh of relief – regime change at last for Ethiopians, and the end of no-war-no-peace Ethiopian policy for Eritreans – with the hope to end the Mandatory National Service and a hope to live a normal life.

      B. – Celebrating the defeat of Woyane – which was a common enemy to all

      Don’t get me wrong: Eritreans and Ethiopians may value unity and may unite one day in the future. But that reality has to come through natural process – through trust building, ethnic/cultural diffusion, and economic integration.

      Semere Tesfai

    • iSem

      Hi Made;

      These day, I am losing it, I am very acutely noticing the PMAA fever is burning hot so much so that Amde and Sal two of less than handful good writers here besides SGJ, Paul are using redundant diction. Sal last night said my spokesperson who speaks on my behalf and now Amde, as if conspiring to piss of off iSem said, tangential but fundamental, if something is tangential it is not fundamental. Sorry for changing this to language debate but do not blame me blame Gehteb who nitpicks i words and once Amde called him Multi-Thesaurus dude, when Gehteb barfed in Latin;-)

      I think overwhelming majority of the resident in Asmara were told to line up, like they were told to line up for Gadaffi, PMAA’s speeches may have swelled the number of those who attended on their own volition , though

      Having witnessed what Eritreaa gave them, having survived PFDJ and its systematic trashing of Ghedli and Eritrea identity, I would think that more Eritreans are Ehio friendly compared to before the war for example.

      Evidences for the evidence obsessed friend Sal: while the prisons are staffed with Eritreans, no daring freeing of prisoners, no meaningful attack on the handful PFDJ and even when IA mocked Eritreans in Addis, IA safely arrived to his home. Once men, now castrated by fear. IA succeed, let us admit it. This does not mean we cannot succeed. This is a new dusk in Eritrea and since like Saleh Gadi once wrote in a Tigrayit poem: ላሊ ዲማ ፍጅር ተልያ

      ( Darkness is always followed by dawn), let us hope the dusk that IA made will be followed by the dawn that Eritreans, those Eritreans who are quietly are in labour, toiling to make it happen

      • Now inc.

        iSem,
        What about the pretty girls rushing to kiss him? That hurt me more than anything else:)

        • Berhe Y

          Hi Now,

          It was not spountanous either, according to some. They were also told to kidas Hinuq abilikin sEm abloe.

          I said before people of Asmara will come in the thousands to greet him, not only because they were told he is coming but also because they wanted too. He represent nothing like the PFDJ or IA?

          The people did the same thing on the funeral of Abraham Afeworki and Yemane Barya, where th regime gave it a low profile event but people showed up in thousands to pay respect and as a sign of protest.

          If tomorrow comes a popular new Sudanese president comes and preaches peace, love and freedom, I would guess people would line up to greet him.

          And I don’t think it’s the condition our people are in, it’s because Eritreans are humans as well, we have the same weakness and strengths.

          I don’t know what we are trying to prove if the people lined up because they were told or they did as a sign of protest to the PFDJ in support of Abiy.

          I think, in my opinion, our focus should how to exploit the situation to our advantage and force the PFDJ regime.

          Berhe

      • saay7

        Selamat iSem:

        But me, myself and I addressed part of this in our response to Amde yesterday. We even gave your favorite question: why do 100 Eritreans, all military veterans, allow two or three Bedouin with klashnikov, herd them like sheep and brand them like cattle? And we proposed a theory: Learned Helplessness. Isaias Afwerkis insatiable appetite for absolute power came at steep price for Eritreans and one of them is to strip Eritreans of all the great qualities we associate with it: courage, boldness and defiance.

        Also, truth-telling. Anybody who knows anything about how things work in Eritrea will tell you that the PFDJ has neighborhood co-ops that they run (along the same lines of “Derg” kebele ) where PFDJ functionaries control the activities of people: mandatory meetings, festival organizing, etc where lack of compliance results in suspension of coupons for subsidies and even denial of allowances parents get for their martyred children. This kind of mobilization exists in the Diaspora (the carrot and stick being the usual ones.) So now, when they try to describe the crowds that greeted Abiy in Asmara as spontaneous outpouring by the people (when the regime has a long history of brutally suppressing anything remotely spontaneous), and people buy into it, it shows you the level of self-deception has reached epic proportions. Does anyone doubt if the government had chosen to keep the meeting low key the people would have defied it and lined up the streets to welcome PM Abiy? And if the people didn’t show up, would it have proven that the people are indifferent or hate peace?

        Some people, bless their heart, have equated being “impartial” and “fair” with splitting the lie. Freedom means first and for most freedom to tell the truth.

        saay

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Saay,

          Your are a good communicator, at least through writing. This argument is epic. The following part of your comment will surely resonates in the mind of the current freedom fighters, who are fighting to restore the values and qualities associated with the truth and our common characteristics,

          (a) “Isaias Afwerkis insatiable appetite for absolute power came at steep price for Eritreans and one of them is to strip Eritreans of all the great qualities we associate with Eritreanism: courage, boldness and defiance.”

          (b) “Freedom means first and formost freedom to tell the truth. And yes the “choice” to be unfree is a form learned helplessness.”

          Saay, we are witnessing the unbecoming to our traits of Eritreanism. The Eritreans at large, whatever the reason behind it, they have chosen to be “unfree” and “submissive” to their tormentors. One of the unbecoming is, even when their own families are dragged to unknown underground prisons, they still remain the agents of the oppressive regime to disseminate lies in sustaining the life span of their tormentors. The unyielding characteristics to fight injustices have disappeared, when our oppressors becomes from our own. The question that always nagging me, does a common characteristics of societies change with time and circumstances? Do you have any answer for that?

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Amanuel Hidrat,

            I think you and saay are very close to crossing the line and going into ‘Gehteb’s world.
            I gather from past reading that saay looks at Psychoanalysis and Psychology as a step above the Astrology world we read in some Sunday newspapers.
            Usually I go there when I run out of things to read in the Sunday newspaper and have time to kill.

            I think that Semere Tesfai, who on occasion say radical things might have a point or two here. I can’t exactly pinpoint but…….
            As someone said before, there are a lot things that are unknown unknowns.
            It is just as valid as someone speculating backwards and saying, Haile Selassie’s singular fatal mistake was in not identifying IA early and appointing him with full authority as Governor of Eritrea to avoid the turmoil Ethiopia went through. Well, what can you say, maybe yes maybe no.

            Mr. K.H

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Kim,

            It is a “curse” trying to lump us (Saay and myself) together with the puppet of the serial killer. No Kim. No Kim.

          • saay7

            Hey Emma:

            Thanks for your comments and kind words.

            The psychological barrier people have to overcome is to first describe the PFDJ for what it is. Strip it of its “super patriot” pretentions, and call it what it is: it’s a Mafia system with its own mob boss and enforcers and their omertà code. Or you can think of it as a tribe with its own tribal chief and honor killings. Sure it has members who benefit from this, but most are just enablers of this things of ours because if we don’t protect it, another Tribe or another mafia group will take over. (That’s why a lot of their energies are focused on an opposition they claim doesn’t exist.)

            So yes of course Eritrea will bounce back and quickly: just look at post dictatorship societies. They leave no legacy except for bad memories of their reign.

            saay

        • Semere Tesfai

          Selam saay7

          1. – “Anybody who knows anything about how things work in Eritrea will tell you that the PFDJ has neighborhood co-ops that they run (along the same lines of “Derg” kebele ) where PFDJ functionaries control the activities of people just like any other police state: mandatory meetings, registering guests, festival organizing, etc where lack of compliance results in suspension of coupons for subsidies and even denial of allowances parents get for their martyred children.”

          Saleh: I know, you think you are making an impressive argument but you’re not making any sense at all. You think your readers are stupid idiots who can’t think independently, but almost all are well informed readers. Anyway let me help you a little:

          That is how the real world operates. It is called propaganda; it is called shaping and molding public opinion, it is called political campaign……….. and it is done in every country of this planet – in the countries that are capable doing it – not like your opposition. Case in point:

          1. – On june 1990, Nelson Mandela was greeted in the USA with a hero’s welcome. He even addressed the US Congress – the very congress that supported the South African Apartheid regime for many many years to oppress blacks. Could he has done it in 1987, in 1988, in 1990….? Absolutely not. What changed except the perception of Western Powers and their corporate media? Nothing!!

          2. – When Melez Zenawi died in August 2012, a large crowd of Addis residents poured to the streets griefing for days – if not for weeks. Do you think Addis residents would’ve done the same today? Absolutely not! Does the Woyane dominated Addis regime has something with it? You betcha!

          So please, don’t insult your readers intelligence. PFDJ leaders made policy decision/change reacting to the new reality on the ground, and they marketed their product (new policy) very well. You just happen to be one unhappy customer. That’s all.

          Semere Tesfai

          • saay7

            Selamat Semere:

            Nobody is calling you stupid, Semere. Are you saying everybody does it so what is the big deal? What I am saying is that there is a Big Lie being told and there are people who know better (you included?) who are perpetuating this lie.

            The two examples you gave do not make the case you think you are making.

            In 1987, 88 and 90 Mandela could not because the apartheid regime WRONGLY held him a prisoner and the Western powers WRONGLY supported the apartheid regime. When he came to the US, a free people (members of civil society) pressured their government to give him a hero’s welcome. How is this similar to a totalitarian government making an exception to its edict against more than 7 people meeting and giving permission for them to come out to the streets?

            As for the outpouring of grief SOME Ethiopians showed in august 2012, are you saying it was orchestrated by the government? The government ordered the people how to cry, what to wear when they are crying? Here in this forum, Teodros, a man who despises TPLF, told us he cried. Again, no comparison, please try again.

            Well, yes, the PFDJ marketed a product. And here I am exercising my freedom of speech and calling for truth in advertising. Your argument boils down to, “hey, everybody does it, leave them alone.” In other words, let them lie and too bad you opposition don’t know how to lie. I will always be unhappy when people tell lies, the more brazen they are about it, the more I will speak out. Sure, that will make it very hard for me to take my kids to Eritrea, but I also sleep better at night.

            saay

          • iSem

            Semere:
            If I were you, if I held your beliefs I would not come here and duke it with “Mowlana” Saleh logic for logic, I will go and celebrate, celebrate my captivity , my opposition of the opposition ridding TPLF tanks to arrive to asmara and adore the ridding or IA an ethiopian plane to take us to Addis. I would celebrate the new leader of Ethio who will also lead eritrea, a representative of Eri while IA becomes a father figure, an older brother, aya
            I would celebrate the hard currency to fortify ela ero, I would drink home made alcohol, I would take my kids to adi-halo to be blessed, knowledge to be imparted into them. I will celebrate the failure of andent and the success of neo-andnet.
            If I was Semere Tesfay I would celebrate no negotiation before they leave Badme yesterday and I would celebrate my head of state delivering an entire speech in Amharic today
            Celberate, Semere, celberate

    • Saleh Johar

      Hi Amde,
      I wonder what you would say if you knew what I go through for not being the preferred type of Habesha though I am Habesha .

      Those who appeared in the jamboree are of two types:
      1-those who appear in any such event regardless of the occasion because they are told to do so or they are reacting to human nature—contagious euphoria. They can’t be blamed “for they don’t know”

      2-the types of dawit, and he perfectly explIned his types. They accept anyone with guns or money. They were there in every occasion including the Andeberhan of the fifties. And they are the most dangerous of all political colors.

      Hope that helps.

  • dawit

    Selamat Awatewyans

    I just read an excellent article lm Meskerem.net a ,Congratulatory note’ by Muhamud Saleh reflecting the Eritrean and Ethiopian peace agreement. The article traces back the reactions of Eritreans opposition and the PFDJ under the leadership of PAI in the past. The congratulations is very appropriate at this critical stage of Eritrean and Ethiopia history. MS also writes a to do list for both Eritrean government and opposition groups to follow. I think those lists are very appropriate to make Eritrea a democratic nation. I believe all opposition groups and individuals to follow.To continue demonizing PIA and PFDJ is unproductive endeavor for Eritrea’s future. It is better to accept the leadership of PIA and PFDJ and agitate for cpnstractive reform in the Eritrean future. Quotes from major Dawit or PMMZ about Eritrea is useless excersis is in appropriate . The future of Eritreans and Ethiopiaians will be determined by PIA and PMAAA policies.

    Long live PIA and prosperous period for all Eritrean people and Ethiopian people➕➕.
    Awry Nhafash

    dawt

    • Brhan

      Hi Dawt,
      Do not forget : when you finger point at some one the other fingers are pointing at you.
      Ask what PIA said about the oppositon from day one?

      • dawit

        Selam Brham

        Yes from day one opposition groups were conspiring to take state power through a short cut spreading divide among Eritrean people.

        dawit

    • Saleh Johar

      Hi dawit,
      I also read the article, indeed it is insightful, very patriotic. But I think I read it many time over in the this forum over the years.

  • Blink

    Dear all
    PFDJ removed AP journalists from the tomorrow flight Addis -Asmara list. The journalist is asking for clarification as if he doesn’t know . Why only Asseb is allowed is a big question to TPLF. Instead of getting goods that travelled 4 hours they intend to get it from Djibouti. Gheteb when is the one question and long answer interview of Issaias?

    • Mitiku Melesse

      Hei, Blink.
      For the time being tplf doesnt any ports. It is bankrupted.

      • Blink

        Dear Mitiku
        I am waiting for them to ask a Federal government bonded warehouse somewhere in asseb . I mean ,can you imagine?

    • Alex

      Hi Blink,
      It is common sense why the AP reporter Elias Meseret is removed from the first flight. Isn’t he the one who reported falsely so many people died in the peaceful demonstration in Asmara last year to tarnish the image of the country without doing simple verification in the ground. From my point of view he is biased on his reporting against Eritrea.

  • Now inc.

    Hello everyone,
    In light of the rapid developments of the Eri-Ethio relations, that is,
    – The start of air and land transportation.
    – The re-opening of embassies.
    – The start if port usage (Ethio TV reported roads to Assab are being made ready)
    It has become crystal clear that the regime boss was using the border issue for his personal grudges against the TPLF rather than a thought through national interest.
    Over the past several years, the regime and its papagalos have been repeating Ambassador Girma’s (RIP) statement like a verse in the bible. For reminder, here is Girma’s statement:
    “if Ethiopia withdraws its army from occupied sovereign Eritrean territory including the town of Badme in the morning, dialogue between the two countries will start in the afternoon.”
    This was Ambassador Girma’s speech to the AU in 2013. How time have changed!

    • Mitiku Melesse

      Hei, Now inc.
      The ambassador said that while he was negotiating with an enemy. This time he is discussing with a country to do bilateral relation. Some they call it ‘chiricharo’. We call it a peace which engages the people who most punished by the nonsense no peace no war idiocy.

  • Ismail AA

    Selam all,
    Do you also miss like me fellow forumers such as Yohannes Zerai, Negash Beyan, MS and now I see Dr. Paulos is added to the list. Where are these gentlemen when we need them most. Hope they are absent for good reason, and are well and fine.

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Ismailo,

      I think Beyan is busy with his PhD dissertation. Dr Paulos told us that he will be away for sometime. MS is having celebration on the wedding ring the PM has put in the finger of the despot. And yes Yohannes is greatly missed.

      • Ismail AA

        Dear Aman H.

        Thanks for the info. Let wish those good brothers success for whatever keeping them busy, and will show up and share with us their thoughts. As to MS, he should be mean not to come here and share his happiness with us, too. I read his congratulatory note to the supreme leader. My hunch tells me the extravagant offers PM has been getting for free from the great President would be worrying MS. I know he very envious to anything touching on sovereignty and what it entails.

        • Now inc.

          Ismail & Amanuel,
          I suspect Mahmuday isn’t too happy about IA’s Amharic speech, Teddy Afro’s praise of Menilik & Hailesillasie (infront of Isaias and Abiy), and IA’s proposal of power transfer to Abiy. Alright, the latter is a bit stretch but IA asked Abiy to “lead us” and EriTV didn’t show that part but showed the Hawassa speech. I have the link right here with me but won’t be allowed here I guess.
          Back to Mahmuday. So, he is a tiny bit unhappy with IA here and there, but the important thing is the Woyanes are not in power anymore. Everything else is secondary.

      • Haile S.

        Selam Emma & Ismail,
        May be they went to Addis to snick to Asmara in the Dreamliner :-). ንሕና እዞም፡ ከም ሕሱም ዝራብዕ ሕዛእቲ ዝለመደ፡ ስራሕ በዚሑና’ኳ ካብ ዓወተ ዘይንፍለ ግና ኣይንናፈቕን ኢና! :-)። ደሓን፡ ኣንትን ትሃርማና ኣንትን ትድስቓና፡ ካብ ሎሚ ምሸት’የ ይግፋክን ምድሪ ቤቴ፡ ኢልና ህልም ክንብል ኢና። 🙂 🙂 ።

        • Ismail AA

          ሰላም ሃይለ፣
          ሃይላት ዓርከይ፡ ግዲ የብልካን ደሪፈን እንተኸዳ ዘይ ድሕሪ ወርሒ ምልሶት ኣመኽኒየን ናብታ መድሪ ቤትየን ዝመለሳ።

          • Abrehet Yosief

            Hi Ismail AA
            ሓቂ ተዛሪብካ። ሸምጊለን እማሆይ ኮይነን ቆብዕ ምስደፈኣ እውን እኽሊ ክኣርያ ድፍእ ምባለን ኣይተርፍን። እተን ደቂ ኣንስትዮስ ወላ መህደሚ ይብለንን።
            ኣያ ሃይለ “ኣብ በረኻ ውዒልና ጻዕዳ ኣንበሳ ቀቲልና” ኢልካ ምምላስ ይሕሸካ።

          • Ismail AA

            ሰላም ኣብረሀት፣
            ግዲ ኣይትግበሪ ከምእን ኣነን ኣያኪ ሃይለን ኣቦታትና ዘውረሱና ኒሕ ዝብለዋ ትምክሕቲ ከምዝበደለትና ኣብ ራባዓይ ርብዒ ዕድመ እዩ ኣብ ዓራርቦ ዝርደኣና ዘሎ። ሕጂ እሞ ደኣ ኣያኺ ሃይለ ተውርዊሩ ጻዕዳ ይኹን ቀይሕ ኣምበሳ ዝቀትል ጭማራ ካበይ ክረክብዩ። ጓል ሂዋን፡ ነዚ ዓርከይ ኣብ ኣደራዕ ከይተእትይዮ።

          • Abrehet Yosief

            Selam Ismail AA,
            ኣዴኻየ እቶም ቆልዑ ጽምብላሊዕ ቀቲሎም እንድ ኣሎም “ጻዕዳ ኣምበሳ ቀቲልና” ኢሎም ዝድርፉ። ኣያ ሃይለ ከኣ እተን ጽምብላልዕ endangered species ኢሎም እንተዘይቀተሉስ ወላ ኣብ video game ገለ ሕንጉጉ ይቕተሉ እሞ ካብ video game እናፈከሩ ናብ Awate ይመለሱ.

          • Haile S.

            Selam Abrehet,
            ተዋሪድና ድዩ ዝበለ ራእሲ ኣቢ። ኣብርሀት ሓውተይ፡ ዝተረፈና የለን። ኣናብስ ቤት ጌርጊስ ጌርክና? ዓገብ! እዚ ኩሉ ዓርበረቡዕ ወሪድና ደይብና፡ ኩዳነምህረት ሰጊርና፡ ዳርጋ ጉልዒ በጺሕና፡ ከብድና ክሳብ ትትርበብ በለስ መሊእና’ሲ፣ ሃደንቲ ጽምብላሊዕ ጥራይ? በሊ እንሆ ካብቲ ናይ ቁልዕነት ደርፍታትና ሓንቲ፡ ውስኽ ኣቢለ።

            ጽምብላሊዕ ጻዕዳ ጻዕዳ
            ወይ ክትጽብቕ ዛ’ኽሳዳ
            ንየው ነጀው ትብል ኣላ
            ንየው ነጀው ትብል ኣላ
            ብ’ክልተ ምልኩዕ ፈልፋላ

            ወይ ክነውሕ ዝመልሓሳ
            መዓር ኔክታር ዘልሕሳ
            ተጠቅሊሉ ዘኾልሳ
            ዛ’ጽብቕቲ ንሳ’ያ ንሳ
            ዛ’ጽብቕቲ ንሳ’ያ ንሳ።

  • Abukhalil

    Dear SGJ ,
    Well done wonderful read , never kneel down لابد للقيد ان ينكسر وللحق ان ينتصر

    • Saleh Johar

      Ahlam Abukhalil,
      They think the chains are made on an unbreakable steel. In Tigre they say, Fas Merig. Sometime, in due time, the clay chain will be broken.

  • Hayat Adem

    Dear H. SGJ,
    Nice read.

    • Saleh Johar

      I wish some people would have 10% of your ability to understand what they read…for samples look at the few supremacists.

  • Hawaz Tesfom

    Hi Mr. Saleh,

    Please cool down. You seem to be still in panic and desperate mode because of the Eritrean/Ethiopian peace agreement. You need to understand that is all natural. Eritrean/Ethiopian destiny is intertwined with each other. They are our blood brothers. We will get added and not divided. That is the reality on the ground. Isaias did one of the best decisions of his life. The evil Weyane (not the Tigrayan people) is back to square one. We need to differentiate between the evil Weyane government and the Tigray mass. Ca. 90% of Tigary is on same boat with the rest of Ethiopians.
    Now, it seems to be difficult for you to realize your hidden agenda (Muslim Brotherhood, aka Morsi). Time doesn’t seem to be on your side.
    I see that you are praising yourself (Aboy fekadu bealom yenadu). Las time you told us that the Eritrean hero General Philipos was your friend and now Major Dawit; wow! Sometimes you are a researcher, another time a politician and then a scientist. I expect next time you will tell us that you were meeting with Obama for coffee. I challenge you Mr. Saleh: Please show us if you have any kind of academic degree. I am 90% sure, you can’t prove it. Please let us know if it is otherwise.
    By the way nobody gave you the license to insult the Habesha!

    Thank you
    Hawaz

    • Saleh Johar

      Selam Hawaz,
      I didn’t insult Habesha, because I am one, but I did express my disgust at your type of Habesha, not the sane Habesha. You should recognize there is a cancerous growth on the Habesha body, which you displayed.

      • Peace!

        Hi Salih,

        ሕጅ ካኣ Brotherhood ዶ ኢሎምኻ 🙂 It is funny they know the sugar daddies more than the dictator they worship. If DIA flys to Turkey tomorrow and kiss Erdogan’s boot, you would be Al-Qaeda, your long held nick name. ይኽደነና እዩ ዘብል ምስዚኦም– እዛ ምድማር ዝብልዋ ከይሓሸት ኣይትተርፍ እያ 🙂

        Peace!

        • Ismail AA

          Dear Peace,

          It seems populism is encroaching to our region. If Dr. Abiy would not cleanse his slogan (medemer) on time, it could degenerate to populist catch word. Xenophobic populists such as Le Pen, Nigel Farage and Geert Wilders had their beginnings in socio-cultural isolationism centered on fear and hate of immigrants. In the past, populism had its roots in economic crises and wounded patriotic jingoism as Hilter’s Germany.

          • Selam Ismail AA,

            Is ‘medemer’ different from inclusion, opening the political space, making something part of the whole, or making somebody a stakeholder, etc …as PMAA has done by inviting the opposition, releasing the political prisoners, starting a peace initiative with eritrea, etc.

            If somebody thinks that it has something to do with eritrea, why should it have, and how could it have, when eritrea is an independent and sovereign country that is responsible for her fate.

            Why could ‘medemer’ degenerate to populism of the type of xenophobia when ethiopia hostes about a million refugees providing them security more than anything else, which even the UN acknowledges, the neighboring countries and the world community call him a peace-maker, etc.

            Is it possible to say that Dr, Abiy has signs of populism, far right- fascist tendencies? Does one word and his effort to bring a dictator to a peace deal make him a populist? What can we say about haters, warmongers, racists, supremacists, exclusionists depending on skin color, religion and the rest, as we see in europe and the usa? If speaking and acting for the sake of peace, and inviting everybody to the stage without excluding anybody, is misread as populism, then nobody can dare do anything, and things will remain as they are.

          • Ismail AA

            Selam Horizon,

            Let quote my self in order to set the record straight because I can see you have gone quite far. I wrote: “If Dr. Abiy would not cleanse his slogan (medemer) on time, it could degenerate to populist catch word”. I did not write that the good Dr. is a populist or even shows tendencies to it. Here, please mark the words “cleanse”,
            “slogan” and “could”, and reflect what they mean.

            I think you agree with me Dr. Abiy has not yet proposed “medemer” as policy statement. He has been using it as rallying cry which has echoed positively among his audiences under the circumstances surrounding the EPRDF governance and its relationship with public that is being stressed by severe economic constraints.

            Now, what I tried to state was that “medemer” as rallying slogan has been snatched by all sorts of activists: leftists, liberals and ultra conservatives, and each for own intent and purpose. Some them have overt and covert xenophobic attitudes to forces they consider enemies. You may think about nostalgic remnants of the defunct imperial and the murderous Derg eras. All have been invited to add themselves to Dr. Abiy’s power base on basis on peace and love.

            Hence, here comes where immunization (cleansing) of the slogan “medemer” is needed. One of the challenges is that the TPLF has been taken as common enemy though it could be argued that TPLF is not the people of Tigrai. Many of those who are adding themselves to Dr. Abiy’s “dmr” do not hide their xenophobic attitudes towards the TPLF, and at moment there is no convincing contention that TPLF is not an extension of the population in Tigrai.

            So, the good Dr. will serve his purpose if he could set up policies that preclude these forces from having free ride, and play catalysts to widen the current flareups in the regions, and the “medemer” gives way to “meqenes”, and it is not hard to imagine Providence forsake the chaos the could follow. Losing control could turn to be tragic.

          • Selam Ismail AA,

            A call for peace is directed to everybody, especially to the enemy. Nevertheless, it does not mean in any way possible a call to ascend power, or in our case, an anti-tplf rally.

            Dergists and royalists may make this mistake, as the major did by sending an invitation to SJG to attend his anti-tplf rally, thinking that every eritrean is against tplf, and ethiopian internal politics interests every eritrean. Maybe he has read the pfdj slogan against tplf/woyane, but he did not care to learn who is a pfdjist and who is on the opposite shore.

            When we talk of dergists and royalists, we are talking of their ghosts and not the real things as we knew them. Most of them, few in number fortunately, who are around are above seventy. They will not affect ethiopian politics in any major way one can think of, provided democracy and democratic elections continue in ethiopia.

            More than 70% of ethiopians have no idea who they were, and the rest have nothing good to remember to have any nostalgia, except the few senile who are dreaming in their senility, or those paid to wave their banner. If they want to return to ethiopia from a solitary life in the west, that should not be a problem for dr. Abiy. Therefore, the slogan ‘medemer’ is not really something to worry about.

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Horizon,

            Would you agree that the life of a culture, or a political value, does not depend on those who first created or espoused it? Of course, political views evolve and they can live for many many years. The royal Ethiopian rule ended in 1974, but I see 20-year-olds advancing it today. The same with Derg as you must have seen school children donning T-shirts displaying Mengitu. Derg officials could be seventy or eighty but they have already passed the Derg thinking to others.

            Don’t you think the young Teddy Afro is an example of a royalist?

          • Selam SJG,

            In the country i live, there is a far right fascist party in parliament, as in many other countries, especially in europe. Many are puzzled why young men and women are nostalgic of the hated ghosts of the past, and who these people are. If one tries to learn about these people, except the few in higher places, the ideologists, most of the supporters are poorly educated young people, who come from broken families and some of them are already known for their illegal and criminal activities, etc.

            If we compare with the ethiopian reality, these young ethiopians who are donning T-shirts displaying Mengistu, etc, are no better than the people i described above, and they are not many. Confused young men who think that they are doing something important or they are somebody are everywhere. Except becoming a nuisance to society, can they ever come to power in ethiopia? I really do not think so.

            Human ambition has no limits. If Teddy Afro has gained enough money and fame, his next wish maybe to become a royal. Can we prevent him from dreaming? We can’t and we shouldn’t. Nevertheless, between dreaming and becoming a royal in imperial ethiopia, there is an abyss he cannot easily cross.

            We live in an era when reactionary groups are abundant, nevertheless, especially as much as the ugly past is concerned, it is going to be short-lived and soon forgotten without a permanent impact. It is said that ‘the devil is busy in a high wind’. Nevertheless, these devils are not going to succeed, and ethiopians and eritreans should not be scared of the ghosts of the past.

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Horizon,
            Fair reply. Thank you.
            The point I am trying to make is narrations have this strange habit of being passed from generation to another. Name any segment of society and it has a narration of its own. Whether a group advancing a certain narration is small or large is debatable. But human beings react to developments based on their own narration and experience. Therefore, unless we get a closure, the motto remains: we struggle therefore we exist. 🙂

          • Blink

            Dear Horizon
            If you look at some TPLF conferences you will find the exact description of Ismail. I mean the exact words . Note that these who lost in this peace process or whatever it is , they will come up with many descriptions. Remember how angry dog walks on the streets. Just imagine in your mind if you ever seen angry dog. TPLF are crying fool but I think it is too late.

          • Ismail AA

            Selam Blink,

            You better watch out your words. This space should not have room for lads like you to promote their rudeness and absurdities. If there is any chance of making analogy here, it would you who would easily qualify a sleepless poodle programmed to yelp around the clock imagining his boss under perpetual threat. And why would you try to use Horizon as a conduit for transmitting your rudeness? He is bigger than that; unlike you he has shown civility and maturity for expressing his views.

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Isamail,

            Congratulations for the brand you earned which I read about this morning: now you and your colleagues are treasonous. Let’s arrest Dr Yousif and bring him to face “the firde gmdil dagna”.

            Very sad indeed though I saw that coming a long time ago.

          • Blink

            Dear Mr.Ismail
            I apologize for mentioning your name and I was not attacking you but using conduit was started by you long time ago. Here is your attack on me .

            Ismail AA saay7 2 months ago
            Selam saay7, SGJ and everybody out there,
            Does anyone believe there are Eritrean atheists (inside or outside)? I don’t believe there are. Of course there are some who pretend, and most of them are either childish or ignorant about what they pretend. I know there are some who are addicted to socially and religiously unapproved practices and take refuge in claimed atheism.
            For example an alcoholic Moslem who fails to practice what his faith prescribes may pretend to be an atheist but towards the last quarter of his life, would recant. There may some who pretend to be savvy in politics (mostly leftists) and think they could excel if they would profess atheism. Thus, do not worry about individuals who present themselves as atheists. Just wait until they approach the end of their of their life.

            You see I don’t forget sir.

    • Brhan

      Hi Hawaz,
      I think you cool down. It is Journalism and in it you have to be creative to attract the attention of the readers , like you other wise with a boring title, you would have hardly had a say like the above one you wrote. I am doing you a favor by telling you some info about the ABC of journalism

    • Ismail AA

      Selam Hawaz Tesfom,

      Over excitement is most often the mother of deceptive populism.Sober down at least until the struggling ship in mid-sea makes it to the shores. How are the poor Morsi (sic) and Muslim Brotherhood related to what is going on in the Horn?!. And, owning or not owning academic titles, well you know your victim has achieved (academically) much more than many Ph. D holders you and I know. For the sake of fairness though, it would serve your fortitude if you could share your academic qualification(s). Then, at least it would let your readers reflect on your credentials for volunteer judgement on the competences and qualifications of others.

    • Hameed Al-Arabi

      Salam Hawaz,

      Life is school for those who want to learn. SGJ is a journalist, novelist, political activist, researcher, freedom fighter, etc. He knows seven or eight languages. A person with these credentials can hold Ph.Dr. without any difficult. Certificates or credentials are open for all, but knowledge for those who can. Now, come to light and inform us what are your attainments?

    • kogne

      hi hawaz, if you watch the week end in addis, hawasa (Ethiopia) and before that in asmara PM abiy visit, you can tell how much those two countries people were thirsty for peace, also in contrary there are some elements in mourning (HAZEN) stage, they don’t know what they are saying (kem kerna zi te ha r met lam) like a cow been hit hard in her horn, they been beneficiaries of this conflict they been repeating woyane propaganda since the oncet of ethio/Eritrea conflict, they been traveling to Ethiopia frequently for meetings every thing financially taking care by woyane(senaa form etc) now every thing is gone,they been dreaming woyane to go all the way to asmara and give them that chair isayas sitting now, the dream they dreaming for years is gone to air, they have to be in panic, don’t worry the only thing they can do is they are going to write and write on web page to irritate people that is it, if you remember mr, VACARO he was threatening even to kill pres isayas , I don’t forget his speech, he was saying isayas is not going to make it until Eritrean independent celebration ,but after all this empty rhetoric god took him without accomplish nothing, and now for those individuals like SGJ just we have to ignore them,they are going to do nothing,thanks

  • said

    Greetings,
    Thank you SGJ for your well thought out article. I fully subscribe to your valid arguments.
    The inherited distorted Habesha narratives forming the general discordant epistemology governing a Habesha’s thinking process and attitude is reinforced in acts by the Habeshas of misperceived self- defense and assertion of identity warranted by Habesha narrow minded feudal Oligarchs’ “Politics of Expediency” in the hegemonic drive for the control and the dominance of entire Ethiopian nation world post WWI and second . the domineering Habesha oligarchs and the like Major Dawit will have no place in history, in fact their militaristic action destroyed the good vast majorly Habesha population .
    Major Dawit and alike are raciest Habesha ,they not be reformed . Posing as the avaricious predators with utterly narrow Machiavellian objectives – short of any well-intentioned benevolent plans and programs in the service of the freshly newly colonized Eritrea – the far much advanced and domineering few elite Abyssinian only compounded the sense of a lingering mistrust; alienation; self-victimization and pent up negative sentiments by the colonialized Eritrean nation with all it component and diversity.
    Thus, what could have been an opportune occasion – other things being equal – for the progressive and enlightened Eritrean to take the generally backward of then Habesha worlds by hand on a benign journey of embarking on a genuine far-reaching benevolent socio-economic and socio-political development turned around into a bonanza of a plan of Habesha imperial Ethiopia colonialist powers exploitations and crude military dominance and illegal invasion of Eritrea by means brute power .
    Eritrea Fresh out of one century or so of Italian colonization of fascist Rule and same time where the Habesha world receded further into social, economic and political backwardness in full contrast to a Eritrean if it was not for Ethiopian Habesha interference and containment and colonization Eritrea. The Eritrean World that was in the interim would be and most likely would experiencing real democracy and equal citizens ship and rule of law and Habesha would drawing the benefits for centuries of renaissance touching on every aspect of a human’s life culminating in the immersion in the blesses of the age enlightenment; if Eritrea was independent in late 1950th . the will help of United nation and Western powers letting Eritrea be independent, the domineering Habesha oligarchs and the like Major Dawit oligarchy could very well have engaged in confidence-building measures with the entire Eritrean people that could have ensued in genuine symbiotic plans for development touching on all aspects of peoples’ lives of both nations .
    Habesha worlds of near past was defined by its ruling royalty and as true of all backward and illiterate masses, represented to the Habesha worlds at the time the sole avenue for meagre knowledge, social cohesiveness and the assertion of identity in the absence of any other meaningful and viable alternatives in the midst of the ravages of intensifying bewildering vying geopolitical schemes and ambitions.
    The Habesha of the dynasty worlds were in dire need to shed archaic and stale social systems, foremost the kings representing religious narratives and narrowly interpreted Christianity teachings, and embark on a meaningful social and political developments that had Eritrean succeed and become independent democratic nation and were in the best position to render and assist in the implementation for the rest of all our Ethiopian brethren neighbour would have benefited mutually.
    The backward Habesha of kings and royalty’s world needed the lull, the time and space to engage in deep self-introspection process; needed a profound revamping of Habesha ruling class and beliefs and ethos. Eritrea was in the best situation to genuinely extend guidance and support had it succeeded to be independent nation.
    However, most tragically in the broader historic purview and the prospects of future inter to two nation relations, the Oligarchs of the Habesha of power grapping , sought, in the typical narrow purview of politicians pinned down on the “Politics of Expediency;” the ruling Habesha planners started dealing freshly anew with the Eritrea from very narrow unionist mostly elite Eritrean Habesha and some church representative where or similar the historic Crusaders left, nearly seven centuries earlier of that time could not conceive differently .
    Actually, sadly ironically, it was widely alleged that when the Ethiopian king- appointed as representative of the Habesha elite government in Eritrea and commander of the Ethiopian Army of the Habesha This, following on the 1960th Agreement to divide the spoils, the remains of the Italin fascist Empire of Eritrean patrimony between the Habesha of Ethiopia and Habesha elite of Eritrea; seems, sadly to have summed up the narrow schemes and interests of the Habesha powers’ return this time to Eritrea preaching peace and love of one people ,new discovery of history of our people .
    For very long time the Habesha world was in dire need for deep socio-political reforms in emulation of then prosperous Eritrea of the past century. Much the Eritrea could have done to cause a huge jumpstart to causing this to happen had the Habesha ruling royalty and feudal oligarchs and narrow-minded political planers not started from the lingering old exclusivist divisive paradigm of the “They” first class Habesha and “Us;” second class Habesha of eritrea ,designating, as currently the case with the recent few elite Tigray Habesha new class of Administration of Ethiopia no different than the few elite the Habesha of Amhara.
    The invading Ethiopian army is the first most powerful army in Africa, thanks to the American largess and unconditional military, financial and economic support as the Eritreans under the most oppressive Habesha regime and illegal occupation are short of the slightest means.
    The backword militaristic imperial Habesha in the experience of the colonization of Eritrea, have foregone a major historic potential turning point, a historic opportunity of all proportions, to advance the causes of a more lasting peace between neighbourly civilizations of all the people; the cause of cultural dialogue and open and friendly peace loving ,in two equal nation, based in neighbourly relations between Eritrea and Ethiopia people and even rather between all nations of the world.
    Habesha politics well refined by late king Hiale Selassie. In hindsight, it is not all that farfetched to assert the “Divide and Rule” in the service of narrow exploitative Habesha colonialist agenda was the sole interest and sole objective of the Habesha imperialist power Eritrea.
    The fragmentation and division of the Eritrean opposition still lingers because of some narrow minded -Eritreans .The Habesha of DIA NENAN ALMANA is pure and exclusivist PFDJ Habesha ruling class of Eritrea .The Eritrean states under the control of the Habesha militaristic powers began with earnest with the appointment on the head of each newly created local political entity of lackey Habesha local rulers with strings attached no different than Habesha of Amhara class .
    For Eritrean Habesha unionist with No plans were genuinely put forward by the supposedly enlightened and falsely calming to develop truly representative functioning democracies in Eritrea. leaving new appointed Habesha political regimes to rule Eritrea by the imperialist King Haile Selassie . by decree of divine of church and at the whims of the absolute rule of appointed local Habesha leaders of sell out Eritrean.
    The imperialist King Haile Selassie, kind of Habesha, as represented by the most backward feudal class and by using clergy and religious institutions, remained exclusivist in its central doctrine and distorted historic narratives; archaic interpretations precluding the development over all Ethiopia. A Habesha ’s mind and modern social institutions was part of reforming even when there were voices. However, the local imperialist King Haile Selassie temporal authority, the vassal of imperialist King Haile Selassie, Eritrea Habesha were happy to serve their newly-found divine king and union with mother Ethiopia, they thrived in the conduct of their absolute rule on the close alliance they forged with the clergy stifling meaningful development of the political and social life in the two nations.
    The anomalous creation of Eritrean Habesha separate commando’s army and the ugly force that created massive dispossessions and exodus of the indigenous Eritrean contributed to protracted conflicts and wasted scarce national resources best had been allocated for the socio-economic and socio-political developments of the Ethiopian people and the Eritrean people.
    Ironically, and instead of the some few sell out enlightened Eritrean Habesha worked for king . The Turns of political events that followed, most tragically, only contributed to Eritrean’ continuing slide into the unfathomable abyss; this, as the rift between the Habesha of Ethiopia and the Habesha of Eritrea only widened, especially with the privileged position enjoyed in the political and strategic decision-making Habesha of Ethiopia and their sympathisers in Eritrean Habesha in west of Merab river .
    We Eritreans let a thug-looking DIA and clique with an educated class, with their broken English occupy the media news waves poorly presenting the Eritrean narrative. This, notwithstanding the huge damage they caused and continue to cause on dictatorially insisting on managing the Eritrean political affairs.
    None of our Eritrean Intelligentsia, prominent businessmen and intellectuals could express strong opinion and make a stand against DIA and his mediocre coteries to listen and abide. In many ways, as continues mostly now, the Eritrean Intelligentsia acted and is continuing to act as the Silent Devil yielding to the corrupt, incompetent and outright collaborator self-styled Eritrean Political leadership.
    No one better the way this achieved Eritrean well put it in above article in awate as it amply apply to Eritrean Leadership then and now:
    This remind me. As the exemplary intellectual renowned writer, Hannah Arendt withstood alienation and disapprovals of friends, coreligionists and admirers standing her grounds for her deep humanitarian convictions, much like Socrates, to preserve the legacy of the Courage of Conviction and Intellectual Integrity of a true intellectual. Her lasting words, “C’est dans Le Vide de la Pensee que s’inscrit le mal.
    Much of Socrates, Hannah Arendt coming two millennia in posterity, upheld Socrates’ legacy in his final stand in a beauty of speeches transcending pity preoccupation with the fears of self preservation to the upholding of the virtues of his philosophical thought. He disdained and endured the ultimate pain of death, so we would inherit the legacy of his courage of conviction and intellectual integrity.”

    The wide spread gruntling and near current social turmoil currently ravaging Ethiopia can best be analysed from the optic of Ethiopian being permanently in a precarious financial strap of virtue of lacking the indigenous economic capabilities to ensure Ethiopia ’s long-term economic sustenance and true and genuine political independence. It is same for Eritrea but much more worst.
    However, several new factors in the recent 3 years came to play to yet further worsen Ethiopian ’s enduring socio-economic problems One can list them, among others in the following order:
    The swelling of Ethiopian population of 105 million, by natural demographic growth. An inflated economically none productive public sector to unsustainable levels in the long term. Ever expanding spending and allocation of budget items, by priority, to economically none productive Defense and Internal Security outlays beyond Ethiopia ’s indigenous economic and income capabilities, however, most warranted by constantly worsening volatile security conditions in the horn of Africa region. However, all the above beside government spending on essential social programs made it forever difficult for Ethiopia to balance the government budget and ensure self-sufficiency; prompting the logical conclusion that Ethiopia ’s endemic chronic budget deficit and drying financial resources are only a candidate to get worse with the future an realized economical progress will be holding general strikes bringing economic life to a complete halt.
    PMAAA and Ethiopian government’s options look rather limited to submit to the demands of the general public going on demand and soon will see vast people strike. Things will not be helped by a general strike that risks that might bringing downhill of the government and will be bring down not only the Ethiopian government, but equally seriously shake the very foundations of a century old Habesha Dynastic Rule that is was not source of Ethiopia ’s socio-political stability and that never was.
    As Habesha of Ethiopia lacks the existence of deeply rooted truly system of representative democracy as well organized representative political parties reaching down to the grassroots as potential solid pillars of the foundation of a representative democracy. So far they have failed Habesha of ruling class of Ethiopia have faile to develop over the many years that were further made worse by undue influence of narrowly tribal Habesha politics besides the near total absence of consensus among fractured political factions of narrow geographic orientations; all this leaves the PMAAA Ethiopia government with limited options to maintain the long-term socio-political stability. I for one wishing good will as manygood wishers Eritreans do. Not with standing his embracing fully DIA.
    As the status quo appears increasingly unsustainable in the face of increasingly disgruntling public with street attempting, increasingly, to assert its political will, the situation could potentially get out of hand as it could lead to a total chaos. This takes us back to what SGJ touched upon above of the ever-looming threads of Habesha Ethiopia. I might be wrong.
    The current socio-economic turmoil ravaging still Ethiopia cannot totally be excluded as miserably failed ruling class of Habesha of past and present.
    A narrowly tribal Habesha politics, this not Conspiracy Theory in the making by an orchestrated Habesha politics hegemonic designs to redrawing the political map of the entire Ethiopia in making.

    Unfortunately, I can not understand where Major Dawit and alike coming from, so to speak, but it is just more of the same – excuses for personal or national failure. If the home Habesha county were doing what they should be doing, . Habesha would not have the huge refuge influx. Until people take ownership of their own problems and shortcomings, the future will not improve for anyone. Instead of creating war misery and havoc, they failed to provide opportunities for their work force – pay them fair decent wages instead of using them as slaves to non Habesha people for century – look Ethiopian if they have opportunities and can earn decent wages they do not want to emigrate. Into Western nation or even Arab nation of GCC, they have a large number of Eritreans, Ethiopians, , etc working in western countries – all would prefer to be home with their loving families and their beloved country . IF they could earn enough to support them and live decent lives.
    Ethiopia Colonization of Eritrea, created Mass Dislocation of Resources, Wars and misery, disruption of the norms, are at the source of much of the socio-economic disruptions to the normal evolution of the societies of the colonized Eritrea. settings and social relations of the aggressed and mercilessly exploited colonized Eritrea. Problem is mostly of Habesha ruling royalty in its origin and causes of Eritrean Colonization.
    As to the Habesha ruling dynasty, and ever since the creation of this Habesha nation on most immoral grounds, the Habesha , by its very heartless make-up on the Skulls of many thousand innocent if not in millions of rest of Ethiopian native and oppressed Chained by Habesha . Habesha is reverting to an ugly past under the slogans of Habesha of Aande Ethiopia and with Eritrean Anade Habesha.

  • ‘Gheteb

    Standing-in For “The Stringer”: An Unconfirmed Tidbits

    Greetings!!

    ” እሙናት ምንጭታት ካብ ዶባት ኤርትራን ኢትዮጵያ ከም ዝሓበርዎ፡ ቀ/ሚ ዶ. ኣቢይ ኣሕመድ ኣስመራ በጺሑ ምስ ተመልሰ ካብ ዝገበሮም ዓበይቲ ስርሓት።

    1) ኣብ ዶብ ተተኪሉ ናይ ዝነበረ ፈንጂታት፡ ምሉእ ካርታ ንኤርትራ ኣረኪቡ፡ ዳርጋ 50% ካብቲ ፈንጂታት ኣብዘን ዝሓለፋ ሰሙናት ወጺኡ’ዩ።

    2) ኣብ ዶባት ናይ ዝነበረ ንክልቲአን ሃገራት ዘራክብ ጽርግያ ይኩን ቢንቶ ዝነበሮ ሓጹራትን መሰናኽላትን ተኣልዩ።

    3) ኩሉ ከቢድ ብረት ብፍላይ’ውን ጸረ ነፈርቲ ምሳይላት ካብ ከባቢ ዶባት ንማእከል ኢትዮጵያ ኣንሳሒቡ።

    4) ኣብ ኩሉ ዶባት ናይ ዝነበረ ሰራዊት ጎዲሉ፡ ንኣብነት ኣብ ከባቢ #ባድመ ዝነበራ ክልተ ክፍላተ ሰራዊት ናብ ሓንቲ ቦጦሎኒ ወሪዱ፡ ኣብ ዝመጽእ 2-3 መዓልታት ድማ እቶም ዝተረፉ ምሉእ ብምሉእ ወጺዮም ኤርትራ ድማ ን #ባድመ ብወግዒ ክትርከባ’ያ።

    5) ብዘይካ’ዚ ውን ኣብ ዝመጽእ ወርሒ መስከረም፡ ኣሃዱ ካርቶግራፍ ውድብ ሕቡራታ ሃገራት (UN Department of Cartography) ዶብ ኤርትራን ኢትዮጵያን ካብ ወገን ምዕራብ ብምጅማር ‘ሸካላት’ ንክልቴን ሃገራት ዝፈሊ ኣብ መሬት ክተክል’ዩ። በዚ ድማ ኣብ ዓለም ካብቶም ዝነጸሩን ዶባት ክኽውን’ዩ።”

    • Fanti Ghana

      Selam ‘Gheteb,

      I know I am violating our unsigned agreement, but I am hoping that PMAA’s love position is far reaching. ንተዓረቕ በጃኻ. It does not mean we changed our respective views and we don’t necessarily have to, but it is silly and childish to continue ignoring one another. ኣብነት ንኹን፤፤

      • ‘Gheteb

        Selam Fanti Ghana,

        Indeed ኣብነት ንኹን፤፤ I highly appreciate what you have done here. It really takes a big heart and a great man to do what you have done here, Fanti.

        That is so magnanimous and so big-hearted, the least I can do is offer you my heartfelt apologies and I hope you will accept it.

        All I can say is, mea culpa from my side!

        • Fanti Ghana

          Selamat ‘Gheteb,

          This, my friend, is a day of days. What a wonderful response!

          Un/fortunately I don’t drink alcohol, but I will now go and enjoy triple strong coffee!

          THANK YOU!!!

    • saay7

      MerHaba Cuziney Gheteb:

      If you can’t beat them join them? 🙂 So now after all the long lecture about how you are against unconfirmed reports you are disseminating unconfirmed reports? I will thank Kbrom on your behalf.

      Meanwhile, on what news your are celebrating, (give the restless Final & Binding gang a lollipop to chew on after their Lord & Master told them you are not even an independent country but a subset of Ethiopia), I hate to tell you this (again) but this was precisely what was on the table in 2002. And all of these gradual steps are happening AFTER Ethiopia and Eritrea started talking and negotiating, despite your (PFDJs) long and loud declarations it would t happen. So you were wrong then and you are wrong now.

      Now, if you want to be wrong again, tell me that the demarcation will reflect exactly what is shown in the virtual demarcation and there won’t be land swaps. In fact if you are that confident, let’s bet on it.

      saay

      • ‘Gheteb

        Cuz SAAY:

        What is so terribly wrong with you these days? Just two days ago ‘your hair was on fire’ because of all the misconstruing and misreading about what was transpiring in Addis on Saturday? Hmmm… mmm…

        You have so loudly came to the conclusion that ‘Eritrea was sold for a horse and a camel and maybe also a jackass? Why are you getting into all these political tizzy these days? What has become of my dispassionate and objective Cuz?

        Speaking about “disseminating unconfirmed reports”, did you stop reading the fancy titles that I give to my notes here? If you read the title, you will find that I am merely standing-in for the “stringer”, umm..mmm…just substituting for your Kbrom. He has been deafeningly SILENT these past 48 hours. Hence my standing-in!

        Regarding the issue of physical DEMARCATION, my stand is clear. I am of the conviction that it needs to be dealt with DEFTLY and GINGERLY. Meaning, both parties need to take the opinions and wishes of the people living on some of the areas like Aletena and Tserona regions.

        Will there be land swaps? I won’t bet anything on this, but based on my six sense: 60% YES; 40% NO.

        You are so obsessively in the grips that “The Five Point Peace Initiative” was as a good as “The Five Pillars Peace Deal” and thus the damningly slow PFDJ guided by its PLODDING “Gobye-ism” squandered all these time to get the same thing 16 years later.

        All I want to bring to your attention is the major hurdle, I mean the MAJOR hurdle, was the issue of TRUST between the TPLF and PFDJ. I am not gainsaying that there were other obstacles here. Sure there were innumerable impediments that precluded the two parties from reaching to a peace agreement.

        • saay7

          Haha Cuz Gheteb:

          But I admitted I had my hair on fire, by way of alerting you of my state of mind. Because:

          (a) contrary to every literature ever written by proponents of Eritrean independence since the Ibrahim Sultan days, I was told that “From now on, anyone who says Eritreans and Ethiopians are peoples of two countries is the one that doesn’t know history.”

          (b) I saw a president of an independent republic delegate his responsibilities to the Prime Minister of another republic. Live. On TV.

          (C) whereas I expected my Adulisian cuz Gheteb to call BS on (a) above, he endorsed it. And then joined the tent revival to express his joy on hearing Eritrean national anthem played at the tent revival;

          (d) it was left up to Abiy to correct (a) and (b) by mistranslation: what my brother Isu really meant was “we are one people on two countries”; what my brother Isu really meant was we will work cooperatively you in front, me giving you counsel.

          (e) What is missing anywhere in Eritrea or Ethiopia for that matter is any voice of dissent or caution. So, I was doing it for all of us: thus, the hair on fire.

          With that intro out of the way, what Kbrom is doing is what you want to be a PFDJ monopoly (man, you guys want to monopolize everything): a 03. And kbrom, like all previous editions of alternative 03, will live or disappear based on his ability to get it right. You know this and thus your relentless (and so far, futile) campaign to undermine his credibility.

          On the Five Point vs Five Pillar plan, you and I disagree. But given the cost borne by Eritrea over the last 12 years, it’s not the kind of “oh well: people can have different opinions on this” particularly when holding my view can get you arrested in Eritrea, and stripped of your citizenship in Diaspora Eritrea. No I intend to point it out every single time your side tries to do its “victory lap) as RoL put it. You gotta counter the narrative before it takes hold.

          saay

          • ‘Gheteb

            Cuz SAAY:

            Anent the quoted sentence, ‘your hair being on fire’, is that all your hyperventilation was for naught. The thing is that your OVERWROUGHT reactions was induced by sheer de-contextualization and LITERALISM gone amok.

            I have averred recently that there is a serious DICHOTOMY the way languages are understood in the differing planets that we hail from. I am also including here the nuances of languages that include such things as hyperbole or exaggeration, contextual meanings and, of course, literalism gone awry.

            You are saying 23 is the same as 9 because it is included in 23? I am not going to argue about this and accept it to be true only in PLANET ILLOGIC. I am not here to discredit your Kbrom as that will be a tall order. I don’t have intel sources like you or disgruntled PFDJ officials whispering infos on my ears. All I got is this simple tool that teases out inconsistencies, ferret out non sequiturs and unearth falsehoods through the test of realities.

            You should realize that your Adulisian Cuz does NOT get easily overwhelmed by hyperbolic words uttered in a milieu suffused with such a bonhomie that I refuse to go all LITERAL and rather opt to understand more the CONTEXT.

          • saay7

            Cuz Gheteb:

            You didn’t answer my itemized list and what their context is.

            Never mind Kbrom, even I with my “disgruntled sources” know who else besides the 9 listed by shabait accompanied IA. I am just waiting for the media of our new leader (Ethiopian media) to tell you. Why? Because I love watching you do summersaults to justify why you never get information on time.

            saay

          • ‘Gheteb

            Cuz SAAY:

            Allow me to take a different tack here. I don’t think you are getting my response at all.

            The CONTEXT is the prevailing bonhomie between the two leaders and the sense of relief from both sides. From Wedi-Afom/Issu side he sees someone he can TRUST and Abiye is sensing that his love and peace messages have found a fertile ground. What is more, is the fact that Issu is feeling like this HUGE burden has been taken off his back, like this behemoth that was breathing on his neck that has menacingly doing whatever it could to upend the Eritrean body politic, through sanctions, ICC and what have you, has gone kaput.

            The growing bromance, some have analogized it to matrimony, has surely engendered some giddiness and emotional outbursts in the form of hyperbolic pronouncements. I am saying again that this was induced by this tremendous sense of relief, specially from Issu’s side.

            If you ask me why Issu’s exaggerated and emotional utterances engendered such reactions, like yours, I say that it got a lot do with historical memories.

            Ever since the early 70s, Issu stood accused of someone who was on a mission to get Eritrea federated, confederated or accept some sort of regional autonomy. In short, in some corners of Eritrea, some have formed this conception, rather misconception, of Issu as someone who was going to settle for something less than independence of Eritrea.

            But the man’s records speak for itself. Even in 1970-71, when he had like 10 to 20 fighters in his Selfi-Natsnet, the interlocutors sent by Ethiopia has offered him a lot of things among which was that he will get hitched to the emperor’s granddaughter. He did not succumb to all the inducements and, well, he stood pat.

            From Aden to Berlin, from Rome to Atlanta, from Nairobi to Khartoum, the man didn’t yield even a soupcon in the Eritrean peoples right to self-determination.

            Sure, some consider his recent pronouncements as inapposite; others an innocuous political faux pas; a diplomatic gaffe, some would say and so on and so forth. Be those as it may, they do not capture the political ambiance that has prompted those unguarded reactions from Issu.

            Apropos the claim that ” PMAA is our leader”, there is a germ of truth to it if you take within the context of the future ‘integrated East Africa’ where Ethiopia by dint of its sheer size would be playing a leading role. Consequently, Abiye will be deemed the leader of the integrated East African region of which Eritrea will be a part of.

          • saay7

            Cuz Gheteb:

            Thanks for this very comprehensive and lucid answer. I will get back to you, soon enough. To give you a hint of what my answer will be predicated on (so you can prepare a withering response): just because someone is a great bus driver does not mean he will be a great pilot.

            saay

          • saay7

            Selamat Gheteb:

            Thanks for a clear explanation and, by extension, that of those who agree with your assessment of the peace love fest. It boils down to this: the man at the help, IA, has been tested for decades and if there is one thing with absolute certainty, it is that he will never compromise Eritrea’s sovereignty and its people demand for self determination. Therefore, seen within that context, there is no reason for alarm and every reason to celebrate.

            To buttress your case, you brought examples from the Ghedli years. In the interest of brevity and in the interest of ensuring that our readers don’t get bored or lose interest, I would like to skip those years and hope you will concede there are Eritreans who will give counter-examples and reach a very different decision. I would like to call those years the bus-driving years, to contrast them with the plane piloting years of statehood. And, while you argue–and use as your primary defense–the bus-driving years, I maintain that the skills are not transferrable and it is best to check his record of respecting the right of the people for self-determination during the plane piloting years.

            Here, I believe that the most generous thing one can say about him is that his record is mixed. Since the very Wilsonian “self-determination” is a very controversial term in international law and even the UN has been backing away from it (as many equated it with the right to secede) and to avoid unnecessary confusion, what I mean by it is “people’s sovereignty”: their right to determine their fate and to freely choose what and how much liberties they want to allow and what the bond they have with one another and the State should resemble. Here, the fact shows, that 27 years after Eritrea’s independence, there is absence of constitution, absence of institutions, absence of even a rudimentary democratic system, absence of even a ruling party with congresses, elections, and revisions of party platform, indicates two things: that this is by design or it is due to a series of unfortunate developments.

            Regardless of either cause (I believe it is the former; you may argue it is the latter), any objective assessment will show that what we have is the ruling party placing a disproportionately large footprint on the State, and the chairman of the party placing a disproportionately large footprint over the party. This has resulted in a One Man State.

            What was most objectionable about the Addis tent revival, then, was it became a celebration of Eritrea’s One Man Statehood. It was a dual assault–with PM Abiye leading the “Issu” chant; and P IA doing everything possible to show that he is indeed the Alpha and Omega of Eritrea and will do and say anything without once bothering for a nanosecond what will ______ say about this? This is how we got to him making statements that PM Abiy had to fix to protect our Eritrean sensibilities! (My hair on fire moments: even shabait didn’t fix what he said: it wrote it verbatim. Thanks Abiy) I am referring specifically to Isaias statement on Eritera and Erthiopians being one people and Abiy fixing it to one people in two nations (inaccurate but not as offensive as IA’s statement), and Isaias turning over the affairs of the State to a foreigner (yes, he is still a foreigner, notwithstanding the One People mumbo-jumbo) which Abiy was kind enough to fix.

            What I wanted here was some explanation from my hard-core nationalist friends like Gheteb (oh, he had too much to drink? Oh, he got carried away) but nothing. When was the last time you saw Isaias blowing kisses and saying anything complimentary about any Eritrea, dead or alive? Have you heard him even say a kind word about Aboy Woldeab Woldemariam or Ibrahim Sultan, never mind his own peers? But here he was showering praise over a man we didn’t know existed a year ago. And this man is going to lead our East African revival?

            When something totally uncharacteristic happens, I would like to ask questions. And I get nervous when those of whom I expect tough questions just get carried away in the festivities in the love declaration. Love is what we expect from religious leaders; duty is what we expect from our politicians.

            This got longer than I expected and I am not even halfway there. But let me stop here.

            saay

          • Kaddis

            Hi Saay,
            Just to say your readers are not bored at all. True, the visit was good in public diplomacy but weak in media relation. No presser or Q&A. In fact Abiy didn’t do any ; his aides say he is busy.
            There could be a reason. Watch out for tomorrow flight to Asmara and the reportage

          • saay7

            Kaddis:

            Thank you kind sir: my inner critic is brutal and it shouts “boring!” every 30 seconds. To give you an idea how surreal the IA-in-Addis visit was, I was sorta live-blogging it to friends who couldn’t watch the tent revival in Millenium Hall and when I wrote “now he is clutching his heart as a show of gratitude…”, a friend wrote back “Wait. The organ? In the chest? He has one?”

            Not to worry you but you should add PM Abiyes refusal to hold a press conference to your list of worries, right next to his call on your peeps to turn over all hard currency ASAP or risk loving it. How will they use it if they don’t turn it in?

            I see that things are back to normal and the Habesha peeps have gone back to demanding mediocrity. The ceremony for the opening of the Eritrean Embassy used the Eritrean flag to cover some Chinese dragon on a plastic arch, last seen at a Chinese restaurant.

            saay

          • Amde

            Saay,

            I gotta say this is some fine prose.

          • ‘Gheteb

            Cuz SAAY:

            That was an epic rejoinder, thorough and brimming with details. Many thanks, for a very thoughtful feedback.

            You have raised many issues and I get what you are saying, believe you me. I will focus on the salient points of your response, for the sake of brevity and also I would like to ‘talk’ more about what needs to be done for the way ahead vis-à-vis Eritrea’s body politic as it relates to governance issues.

            The foibles of the man, PIA, are quite evident but they shouldn’t be the main issues when we are dealing with all the other issues bedeviling Eritrea. I think it was someone I know who write a piece in the early 90s entitled ” when His Excellency was not so excellent” capturing the political faux pas, inapposite remarks that may come across as being uttered with complete abandon.

            The only time that these pronouncements of we are one people or one country is going to become a major issue is if we see steps that are taken that IMPINGE on Eritrea’s sovereignty. But what we have seen so far are steps that solidify and entrench Eritrea’s independence and Eritrea being an independent country. The singing of the Eritrean National Anthem and the reopening of the Eritrean embassy in Addis, are two cases in point.

            I get your point about the reactions engendered to what Dr. Bereket said regarding the sameness of the Eritrean and Ethiopian people. But you seem to forget the simple fact these reactions depend on WHO says them and WHEN are they said. I don’t think he would have said those statements when he represented the EPLF in the UN. You have to take into account the time and the person saying these things.

            Apropos all the showering of love and all the Issu chants you have alluded to, I beg to take an exception here, were not to push the idea that he is “the Alpha and the Omega of Eritrea”. I think it got a lot to do with the rehabilitation of Issu’s image in the eyes of Ethiopians given the fact that in the past TWENTY YEARS the TPLF led government of Ethiopia left no stone unturned in trashing, demonizing, impugning Issu’s image. They have portrayed him as this OGRE who is set to wreck havoc on Ethiopia and rend asunder its unity. Given this reality it is highly indispensable for PMAA to show the other and truer side of Issu — softer, genial and someone with no animus towards the Amharic language. All of this is done with the realization of the fact that Issu will play a significant role in the realization of Abiye’s vision.

            Anent the analogy you proffered about Issu moving from being a bus driver to being a plane pilot, frankly speaking, does not pass the smell test. The records of the past 27 years paint quite a different picture. There isn’t even a single instance in which Issu has compromised Eritrea’s sovereignty by simply ceding lands or agreeing to treaties that diluted Eritrea’s territorial integrity. On the contrary, he acted or reacted swiftly and sometimes hastily in defending Eritrea. Yemen and Djibouti are two cases in point. If nothing else, Issu has jealously guarded Eritrea’s sovereignty, though no doubt that he is one heck of pilot, he may have piloted the plane a bit aggressively.

            We are talking about two different types of self-determinations here. What you have underscored is the peoples right to choose the type of government and other ideals. I was only referring to self-determination in the sense of self-rule and the right to independence.

            For all the misdeeds that Issu and the PFDJ are standing accused of, I would like to point that most of it is explicable given the fact that Eritrea for the past two decades has been under what is commonly referred as ” state of exception (Ausnahmezustand)”.

            I will EXPATIATE on that and other issue in my next note or piece or whatever.

          • Guest

            Selamat

            To assure us that Eritrean sovereignty and territorial integrity is not in danger, you wrote that ” The singing of the Eritrean
            National Anthem and the reopening of the Eritrean embassy in Addis, are
            two cases in point”

            This reminds me of a case that happened in Keren a while ago. A mentally disabled young woman got pregnant. It turned out that she was raped by a guy in exchange for LOLLIES!!

          • saay7

            Selamat Cuz Gheteb:

            Thanks, Gheteb. Let’s continue on this thread until we either exhaust it or we get exhausted or something disruptive emerges and makes it moot.

            One of the issues I do not address well, as evidenced by the satirical pieces of Saba for example, is that people have gotten the impression that I obsess over IA because of God knows what. But this is like saying that someone is too focused on Trump when discussing the Trump Administration or too focused on Lebron James when discussing the Cavaliers. Back in the 1990s when that guy wrote “When His Excellency Was Not So Excellent”, there was an Eritrean government, and it was made up of people who had their own claim to fame and legitimacy. Recall that in the G-13 letter (written in 2000), its criticism was that the EPLF/PFDJ gravest mistake was “the abandonment of collective leadership. You do not need us to tell you that the practice had created trust and mutual confidence among the leadership and between the leadership and the rank and file. The heroic struggle of Eritrean fighters their tenacity and resilience in the face of overwhelming odds would not have been successful without such trust and confidence and the collective leadership based on it. After independence this practice was abandoned and replaced by one-man leadership.” Since then, things have only gotten worse and power is concentrated in the hands of one man. Ergo, my obsession. If you can give me some evidence, something, anything that shows that there is collective leadership in designing policies and not just that in their execution, I would appreciate it.

            Your assertion that PM Abiy is trying to rehabilitate IA and my claim that this is promoting IA as the alpha and omega of Eritrea are not mutually exclusive. I don’t think it is lost on PM Abiy that there are a lot of allegations against IA from his own people, in the nature of the allegations of the people who created the wave that propelled him to power. Yet, he, the reformer against autocracy and power abuse, has chosen to enthusiastically ally himself with an autocrat of the worst kind. There are many possible reasons for this (a) that he has correctly calculated that doing so is in the best interest of Ethiopia; (b) that he has calculated that doing so is in the best interest of the political career of a certain Dr. Abiy; (c) that he is another toy having his strings pulled by someone else. Whatever the reason, for those of us who actually believe that IA presides over a system that committed grave crimes against its people, and one who presides over a corrupt system that benefits materially from the exploitation of our youth (no modest villas for them), PM Abiye could have ensured a better peace dividend for Eritreans if he had kept the enthusiasm a tad below unseemly.

            I agree with you that for most of Eritrea’s revolution, “self determination” meant simply the “right of the people to determine their future which will automatically translate to freedom from Ethiopian rule.” But, in 1987, at its second “unity” congress, the EPLF changed its political platform to more explicitly define what the future of Eritrea will look like and it is nothing like the one we have now, and that is (I argue) primarily because IA sidelined all the people who were responsible for that document and birthed the PFDJ with its “National Charter”, the holy book of Eritrea.

            Finally, as a permanent resident of Planet Illogic, it pains me to point out to you that you committed a fundamental and common flaw in logic (so common it has a name: Fallacy of Origin or “Consider The Source” fallacy) when you said you have to take into account WHO says something when assessing the suitability of said thing. Well, he (Dr. Bereket) said it in an interview, when he was promoting his book–a book that chronicles his life as an Ethiopian and Eritrean. And he, a man in the twilight of his years, was expressing his hope that he would like to see the great Pan African dream fulfilled. But yes, the time: if the Eritrean Ambassador to Kenya is to be believed, he said that ever since the 1970s, he recalls hearing from IA that there will never be Eritrean liberation without Ethiopian liberation. So, from where I sit, it appears that good old reliable double standard: Halal for IA, Haram for everybody else.

            saay

          • iSem

            Hi Sal:
            maybe IA told the ambassador to Kenya in whispers that there will never be Eri liberation without Ethio liberation, but IA told all Eritreans then that it is oxymoron to talk about Ethiopia once Eri is liberated because after Eri is liberated Ethiopia may not exist.
            Now times have changed and the mercenaries are pivoting to the liberation of Ethiopia. But TPLF proved IA wrong when Ethiopia not only survived but thrived. Eritreans are fools, PFDJ supporters some are insane, some are outright evil and the opposition is myopic: a recipe for our disasterous trek in the uncharted waters with PMAA, the prime minster of the once on the brick of collapse Ethiopia as our leader and your cuz has no issue with that. If the opp was dreaming ridding TPLF tanks IA and his supporters are ridding the Ethiopian planes NOT to enter Eritrea but to arrive to Ethiopia.
            Now cuz Gehteb, the citizen of the Nation of Logic tell cuz Sal which one is more honorable: ከማከሞ ዓድክም እግል’ታቅብሎ or ከማከሞ ዓድኩም እግልትሕደጎ

    • Tzigereda

      Selam Gheteb,
      So, what is the reason why the eritrean government doesnt inform the eritrean citizens? Why the obsession with secrecy? ሕዱር ሕማም.

      • ‘Gheteb

        Selam Tzigereda,

        You are right and I am with you on that The Eritrean Government should inform the Eritrean citizens. However, as you may know, the EPLF, PFDJ and GoEr, are products of the Ghedli culture where information is highly guarded and disseminated piecemeal and on a need to know basis.

        Thus, you hit the nail squarely on the head when you ascribed the lack of disseminating information and informing the public immediately when you wrote: ” ሕዱር ሕማም”.

        But, we have to cut the Eritrean Government some slack here. I think they are much worried about the reaction of the Ethiopian people, specially from certain areas of Ethiopia, about this issue pertaining demarcation and troop withdrawals. You can say that they are being CIRCUMSPECT and cautious about the stability of Ethiopia and do not want to rock Abiy’s boat, so to speak.

        Let me illustrate what I am trying to impart here by way of an example. In June 1998, the Eritrean anti-aircraft artilleries shot down a mig-23 jet fighter in Asmara. The Eritrean media didn’t report it. The Eritrean government was of the belief that reporting such information may ESCALATE the border war between the two countries and was hoping to resolve it peacefully.

        I hope you will try to see the multiplicities of factors that are contributing why the Eritrean government is LOATH to release information to the public POSTHASTE.

        • iSem

          Hi Geheteb:
          teg. Tzigereda is cutting you slack for making the issue not sharing in information. She is wrong, the issue is not the lack of info dissemination, rather it is a one man show doing what he wants to do with Eritrea, the property of Eritreans
          And the reason IA succeeds in his life long dream, this day matters to him more than the liberation of Eritrea gauging by his giddiness and exuberance. The reason he succeed is because the world is full of people like yourself, who have ample time on their hands thanks to their disability checks and are therefore able to write volumes of none sense just to protect their bawdy house. Now you have chosen to descended to the gutter so much that, I have also downgraded what you are trying to procting in Eritrea and now you have found new market with this opening and location, location, location as they say is in Bademe

          • Selam iSEM EiUoor,

            “The reason he succeed is because the world is full of people like yourself, who have ample time on their hands thanks to their disability checks and are therefore able to write volumes of none sense just to protect their bawdy house.”

            And this bawdy house I suppose is in geza Werqet or Hilet WereQa or is it geza tanika. Let me tell you a short story of this riEsi Tanika kemakha who goes by the name of Gheteb. And speeking of Hilet WereQa

            On a hot summer day of July 1991, he coauthored a scathing critique of the EPLF and its top brass. With his intimate first hand knowledge of Halewa Sewra’s bloodied hands of countless Eritrea’s innocents, including numerous citizens of Keren rounded up in 1978 who have disappeared forever in the dungeons of Sahel, Gheteb contribution to the paper was the painting of horendous picture of the EPLF oppressors who at the time were being applauded for victorious revolutionary liberators. He sighted numerous periodicals of the erra as well as the revolutions histrorical truth, enough to indicte and reject the deamons who were ascending to power and lord over Eritreans. Gheteb foresaw and foretold all the events and the ills of Eritreans of the past quarter of a century way back then in July of 1991. After several hours of putting the final touches of the paper and a two pages full of questions and recommendations to be delivered to the EPLF’s MaHmood Sherifo in Washington DC, Gheteb the WEASLE was very calculating in deciding NOT to deliver his views first hand. He calculated and chose self preservation by delegating the task to his coauthor so that twenty seven years later he and his “baudy house” are safe while people he pleaded with to stand for JUSTICE and the full liberation of Eritreans are to languish in the dungeons GHETEB himself prophesied.

            Another incident shortly after Isaias visit to Washington DC in 1989, myself, Gheteb, Yemane (who last I know to be in the trenches with Eritrean Defense Forces circa 1998) and a fourth Geology student (gold diger who Ghtebe’s choice term of endearment was “Qeshi zeAAzega/Hazega”) sat in my living room to have tea. “Qeshi zeAAzega” did not like much of my observations and narration of the Isias DC event and quickly rose to his feet throwing his tea glass and punches flaring in every direction. Long story short, back then Gheteb was indignant of such fanatic and narrow minded Eritreans who persecuted and alianated him for speaking the truth. Unfortunatly, Gheteb was a branch from the same tree of opportunistic gutless weasles and that someday GHETEB will be the number one cheerleader of the inhumane Eritrean Military and Capitalist PIGS!
            Ecclesiastics A Time to Declare WAR! against the chamions of Injustice in Eritrea.

            So my dear Eiuoor iSEM your transgressions are also not fully absolbed.

            tSAtSE

          • ‘Gheteb

            Selam tSAtSE,

            You mad Bro?
            Joo mad?
            Shoosh mad?
            You Mod?

            What is up with all the insults? From calling me a “retard”, a “weasel” , a ReEsi Tanika, to assigning some sort of a disability? I hope that makes you feel a little better. IS you happy now? I hope you IS!

            In your response, you have said something about a “bawdy house” which you picked up from iSem. Let me tell you what the standard meaning of “bawdy” is: check a dictionary. like for example, one says “bawdy jokes”, bawdy humor or bawdy stories. Never, a bawdy house. NEVER!

            Well, of course, if you are enrolled in an ESL class, then you are forgiven for making such mistakes because that is why your buddy is in an ESL class in the first place.

            The problem is with JOO, my man Tsatse. How does the Tigrigna saying go regrading those who follow a donkey? He who follows a donkey, mimics braying if not learning the habit of …..

            Your memories of the early 90s seem to be all topsy-turvy and out of whack as you have gotten a lot of things wrong. I will give you sometime to jog your memory.

            Don’t worry about this “weasel” “retard” with some sort of “disability”. I remember vividly what I have written and I am capable of defending my stances, come rain or sunshine.

          • Selamattttt

            Testing 123 testing 123… lots of on Hold on waiting approval….

            tSAtSE

        • Gheteb,

          In retrospect- no scratch that- I have always known you were a weasle. Back then I had a soft spot for your dissability. zTeHana THinenn beAle goytana Isaias ybla.

          tSAtSE

  • Simon Kaleab

    Selam SGJ,

    Ethiopia is not defined ONLY by “inter-Habesha elite feud and rivalry”.
    What about the role of Arab Islam crossing the Red Sea and the Oromo/Galla, originally from North Kenya, invading already populated areas?

    • Saleh Johar

      Hi Simon,
      Yes, you are right and when Lucy’s people crossed to other lands… a million years ago 🙂

      Don’t be edgy Simon. Please read it in the context of our recent past and present turmoil. This is not about offensive and defensive posturing, it is a reply to a person who displays the same traits, and plans, that brought us to where we are. So, I would appreciate it if you do not stretch it too far.
      Thanks

      • Simon Kaleab

        Selam SGJ,

        I understand your concern, but I am only stating the facts.

        In general, I have a distrust of pontificating old failed elites such as Shaleka Dawit, and the gutter character Kassa Kebede.

        Lucy …, that is pre-history; not a well formed culture.

        On the Oromo, they imported themselves, and were king makers for at least 400 years, but they are still crying.

        On Menelik, he is no less Oromo than the current still crying Oromo elites. The only difference is that Menelik chose the narrative of the Solomonic dynasty rather than the that of the Gada system.

  • saay7

    Selamat Victory:

    So the IA trip to Ethiopia was motivated by his desire to do a victory lap in Ethiopia to demonstrate to one part of Ethiopia (TPLF) that he has won and they lost. And to demonstrate this, he is partnering with another part of Ethiopia (OPDO+ANDM and the remnants of the forces TPLF defeated in 1991.)

    Now how exactly is this different from 1991 when he partnered with TPLF to do a victory lap of “his” prevailing over all the forces who are now chanting “Issu”? There were Eritreans then who were warning him that his “we are beyond borders” was not a sound policy who are still in prison (Bitweded among others.) The same people who were ignored in the first honeymoon remain uninvited to the second honeymoon (the dispossessed Eritreans including the refugees in Sudan, and the culturally rejected Eritreans who don’t subscribe to the “Eritrea = Ethiopia” domination system.)

    Here’s how his “victory lap” ended: IA flew back to Eritrea as follows: Addis, fly over Djibouti, to Asab then to Asmara. Now that’s one hell of a victory lap.

    saay

  • David Samson

    Selam, VL
    I did not know SAAY had arranged IA’s itinerary to Ethiopia.

    Till the Kingdom comes down to…. is what you call it as a “Strategy”.

  • Kaddis

    Great read Gash Saleh –
    If I can quote one Oromo blogger ” the Ethiopian state can be democratized if the Oromo/the wider south can present their own distinct project for Ethiopia”. The question is do the Amharic elite give this space? or rather break the nation? It looks the Tigray elite is making space ( I can be corrected here)

    Checking with the reaction to Teddy Afro’s Menilik praising, provoking entry in front of a very mixed audience on live Tv- people are slowly understanding; prefers to be mindful of our diversity in understanding history. Is it good enough to calm the frustrating regional elites? I don’t know.

    • Saleh Johar

      Hi Kaddis,
      I think that Teddy thing was an on your face disrespect and insensitivity. I was in Addis when it was tense over the statue of Menelik in Piazza, and I sympathize. So, instead of just saying Amlak, he chose to say the Amlak of the killer kings! But what is different–isn’t Isaias almost canonized?

      Kaddis, I am afraid all this movement is co-opted. I would say, may the Amlak of all creation protect your people and country. It is worrying.

  • Brhan

    Hello Awate and SGJ

    I have said this before and I will say it now.

    Dawit W. Giorgis is irrelevant!!!

    • Mez

      Dear Brhan,

      Probably for you. Not necessarily for every one.

      Thanks

      • Brhan

        Dear Mez,

        Birds of the same feather fly together.

        • Mez

          Dear Birhan,

          Yes correct; that applies to the Horn of Africa citizens.

          Thanks

          • Brhan

            Hi Mez,
            Are you representing your self only?…you as a horn African citizen. I thought it is typo!

          • Blink

            Dear brhan
            I think Mez is right . These people like dawit are not yet gone, in fact they will be a face to see after 2020. They are planting in the Hibret party .

          • Brhan

            Hi Blink,
            Like unwanted plants!

          • Blink

            Dear Brhan
            Yes , I think we should put acid on them but we shall not forget that they can infact come .

  • dawit

    Good Day Awatean
    Ethiopia and Eritrea , ‘Hade LbiHade Hade Hzbi’ PIA & PMAA. Znegesu Negawsna. Accept this fact and live in Peace!

    dawit

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Selam Saleh,

    It is a timely article, to remind the yearning for true peace is hijacked by the slogan of “medemer” that has no any quantitative formula whatsoever. Second, as you have noted beautifully that the history of Ethiopia (that includes Eritrea) was the inter-Habesha feuds for power through and through (the tigrigna and Amharic speaking social groups). The new movements eventually will be developed to a new isometric alignment within the Habesha section political power house. That is all what the regrouping of Major Dawit and his allies are trying to do.

  • Gedion

    [Begin your comments with a salutation. its the rule here///moderator]

  • Blink

    Dear SG
    Thanks for refuting the sinister motives and also give a proper reply to these HANGEMA elites.I know this is not the first and it will not be the last because I know many HANGEMAS are coming with almost the same views . I have to say this sir , I am one of these people who met such people , in the years I met such people, I always end up breaking my relationship just out of frustration about this issue. Even I was nearly to lose my chance to say my views in this forum just because of my deep sense against these people views. My views about these people has never been racism or hate but deeply rooted wounded understanding. If there are two people or even one person from the PFDJ camp who reject the Habesha thing , I need to find him only to talk to him about it and ask him on how to advance it to more young people. Again here no racism attached mine is pure rejection.

    • Mez

      Good day Blink,

      What is HANGEMA?

      • Blink

        Dear Mez
        You can relate it to Yekn Jiboch but more scavengers than current once.

      • Fanti Ghana

        Selam Mez,

        Literal: sudden appearance or movement associated with carelessness, a stupid decision made in haste while the need for caution was obvious, someone devoid of basic commonsense.

        Amharic: ድቅን. As in ድንገት ድቅን ኣለ (ኣሉታዊ) not to be confused with ከተፍ ኣለ (አዎንታዊ).

        The word hijum is its derivative. I hope you are familiar with the word HIJUM.

  • Hameed Al-Arabi

    Ahlen Salih Johar,

    Well done job in an appropriate time. It is true, part of Eritrea is Habesha, but the majority of Eritreans are not Habesha. Peace to be incarnated between Ethiopia and Eritrea, this reality must be conceived well. Ethiopian elites should understand, Isaias doesn’t represent Eritrea, specially those who are not Habesh. Major Dawit is speaking about his personal and his likes identity none of all Eritreans.

    • Simon Kaleab

      Selam Hameed,

      You said: “…but the majority of Eritreans are not” Habesha.

      Do you have any supporting statistics for your claim?

      • Hameed Al-Arabi

        Salam Simon,

        The question in itself is a proof about your ignorance. It seems the only part you know about Eritrea is the Habesha part. For example, when you tell me you are the son of Kaleab, I will not demand from you “any supporting statistics for your claim”. I am not Habesha, period.. Are you going to change me to that by force?

        • Simon Kaleab

          Selam Hameed,

          Do not be shy and answer my simple question.

          You said: “…but the majority of Eritreans are not” Habesha.

          Do you have any supporting statistics for your claim?

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Hi Simon,

            I think the land they possess make them upper hand in Eritrea. Population wise, you will have it later in the future, numbers attached with names.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Hameed,

            So, you are now prevaricating instead of answering a simple question?

  • Ismail AA

    Hayak Allah,

    This timely and essential response to Major Dawit. I read his article at Ethiomedia. No doubt the man is peace-loving but on the terms he considers must departure point. Like almost all Ethiopian elites, his loop for gazing at Eritrea is the culture and faith of the traditional Habeshaland. This has been, and I am afraid will remain, unfortunate fixation that damaged the interest of life of peoples in modern Eritrea and Ethiopia.

    Curious that I was when I read his article, I could not help but scribble a few comments in a cursory form which are published under opinions entry. It’s fine you have expanded on some of the points I had raised.