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IS Entices AlShabab To Pledge Allegiance

In the early hours of Sunday, a gory 29-minute video showing the execution and slaughter of 28 people appeared on the Internet. By the afternoon, many websites removed the complete gory video and replaced it with shorter clips.

The video production carried the signature of Al Furqan, the media and propaganda arm of IS. The Islamic State For Iraq and Levant (ISIS) is now simply known as Islamic State (IS) after it expanded its reach beyond Iraq and Syria. Currently it has franchises in Sinai, Palestine, Libya, Nigeria, Yemen, Afghanistan, and Pakistan.

IS extremists executed the Ethiopian victims in two groups. The first group of 12 men in bright orange jumpsuits were beheaded in the shores of the Mediterranean Sea, while the second group of 16 men in black jumpsuits were shot at close range in the southern desert of Libya. According to the caption, the first group was behead by the Burqa affiliate and the second group by the Fezzan affiliate of IS.

Apparently the aim of the gruesome video is to bolster AlShabab of Somalia which has yet to pledge allegiance to IS though it has pledged allegiance to AlQaeda. Observers believe that IS wants to lure AlShabab to its fold.

AlShabab considers the Ethiopian government an enemy for its support of the Somali government. And it has been fighting fierce battles against the Ethiopian forces since 2006, and has carried out several attacks inside Ethiopia where civilians were killed.

The caption on the video described the victims as, “worshipers of the cross belonging to the hostile Ethiopian church.”

In February, the Libyan franchise of IS beheaded 21 Egyptian Coptic Christian workers, provoking the Egyptian government to retaliate with airstrikes on Derna, an IS stronghold.

The latest victims of IS are purportedly Ethiopian Christians who happened to be in Libya, the main transit stop for African refugees and migrants on their way to Europe.

For the last ten years, human traffickers operated lucrative business smuggling people to Europe mainly via the Island of Lampedusa, which lies in the southern edges of Italy.

The Libya-Lampedusa route was briefly closed during the Arab Spring after the fall of the Gaddafi regime. In recent years, the route that served mostly Eritrean refugees has now become the preferred route for Syrian, Iraqis and other Africans, including Ethiopians.

Since Israel barb-wired its borders and became intolerant with refugees, and lately the Egyptian army has been waging a military campaign to demolish the camps of the human smugglers in Sinai, Eritrean and Ethiopian refugees and migrants are left with only the Libyan route as a choice.

An Ethiopian official reached by telephone told Gedab News, “I have nothing to add to what the official spokesman said, the Ethiopian government has not yet confirmed the identity of the victims of the atrocious act. We are working on it.” He added, “Ethiopia is doing all it can to help Ethiopians to return to their country if they want.”

Ethiopia doesn’t have an embassy in Libya. The Ethiopian embassy in Cairo couldn’t be reached.

[awate.com offers its condolences to the Ethiopian people in general and the Orthodox Christians in particular]

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  • Dear Abay,
    As I was watching the videos coming out of Addis, at one point, I thought I heard people shouting the word “ሌባ”, although I cannot be sure. Could you please tell us what some people in the crowd exactly said, those who tried to exploit politically the gathering meant to mourn the
    unfortunate victims? Were there serious injuries incurred on the demonstrators by the police, although from the video it looks teargas and batons were the only things used to disperse the crowd?

  • Hope

    Dear Michael,
    Are you a new comer?
    Please, rewind the comments about my stand as reported here in this very Forum on that issue!
    Listen:
    The Baduma occupation has an implication,at least from the PFDJ’s arguement point of view,in a sense that, if that issue is settled,there is NO major excuse for the PFDJ to brag about this and that.
    My point:
    NOTonly that It has nothing to do with Baduma,but implemneting the Ratified Constituiton could have solved the majority of our problems…and ,hence,you have to direct that question ot mr yemane Ghebreab,whom I persoanlly challenged him by asking the same quesytion you askedme,whcih was also asked by a barve Eritrean in Atlanta–where the clip was palyed here in this forum.
    But be remindful about the technical and psychological aspects ,and the perceived and real implications of the sanctions and the occupation of the Sovereign Land,not to mention teh real and the perceived threats form outside,at least from the PFDJ point of view and its supporters,who are Eritreans.
    If we have to argue about as to which should come first,i.e.,the Implemntation of the Ratified Constitution vs the removal of the sanctions and the resolution of the Border issue,it is not a Rocket Science to figure it out.
    Out of curiosity,I would ask you a simlar question as to why you are NOT considering as major culprits the rol e of the Weyane and it Masters in crippling our Nation and her people.
    Or to put it in your style:
    Could you, please,briefly describe the possible link between our problems an dth erole of the external agents”.
    Or, better said:” Would you, please,with all due respect,Sir,be so kind to briefly describe to me as to why you are ignoring the role of the Weyanes and its masters in intefering in our nation’s business?Not to mentioon the sanctions, the threats,the bombings of the Civilian Institutions,etc?

  • Hope

    Dear Abel,
    Excuse me sir!Have you been there?If not,you have NO Moral ground to say a word ,let alone to protect your evil weyanes.
    I am not crediting Mr Getachew Redda as he only showed up after his grand-daughter was found to be one of the victims…
    Where was he hiding until now?
    That tells volumes…
    And you are telling me that the weyanes have nothing to do with it but the UNHCR?
    Who are you trying to trick here?

    • Abel

      Dear Hope,
      Most of us have first hand experience how refugee camps operate,i guess you are one of the lucky few who took direct flight to the west. My nephew was in the same refugee camp and left to Addis in few weeks because he found some guarantor to sing for him.
      Fyi, Getachew Reda have his own blog called “Ethiopian Semay” he is well known for his notoriety.All his life starting from hey days of EPRP till now ,he been prostituting around with the worst Amhara chauvinist such us Prof. Getache Haile who called the entire Tigrina speaker a cancer.For me he is the least credible person.

      • Hope

        Abel,
        How much did you pay for him to go to Addis?Was he forced to marry a Tigreyan wife?
        He should be one of the few lucky.one!..
        Leave alone the persons of Getachew Redda but the Report is accurate
        your lucky Nephew cannot represent the 100K Eri Refugees being quarantined in the deserts of Tigray..

        • Abel

          Dear Hope,

          I think he paid 20,000 Nakfa to the agent of Mai Aini area HIGDEF Colonel to cross the boarder.He doesn’t have to pay any thing to go to Addis.

          He is now second year engineering student at Ambo university,hopefully up on graduation he will marry a beautiful girl of his choice, Oromo , Tigraweyti ,Tigre,Afar….
          I said if you have guarantor he can sign for your release.I didn’t say there are no refugees in the camp or are free to move in and out.

          BTW, If you care that much ,why don’t you deal with the root cause of the problems instead of focusing side issues?

          • Hope

            Abel,
            1)What is a Real Change?
            2)What are the root causes of the problems?
            3)How do you approach these problems?
            Since you seem to be the advocate /Spokes Person of the TPLF Junta:
            -Why is TPLF refusing the direct involvement of the EPDP to help those helpless Eri Refugees,who are NOT lucky like your lucky nephew?
            -Why is the same TPLF risking those ,who went there for safety-to the extent of being the worst victims of Human Trafficking?
            -Why is the same TPLF ripping of the ERi ID so as to send their own “refugees” in the name of Eri Refugees?
            May I keep going?

          • Abel

            Dear Hope did you said lasting solution?
            ተመን ኣብ እግርካ: በትሪ ኣብ ኢደካ !!

        • Hope

          Abel,
          Do you know about the status of the three Eritrean girls,whose Father paid thousands of USD to the TPLF Agents,who apparently killed the girls and sold their organs?

          • Abel

            Come clean,you the only one with this info.

  • Abel

    Dear Abay,
    Thank you for the prompt update.
    I hope the demonstration has conveyed the much needed awareness to the ill informed compatriots fleeing the country.The clear and present danger in Yemen,South Africa and Mediterranean sea is not worth the risk.There is ample opportunity at home.

  • ppp

    too many ethiopan and eritrean muslim working isis. one of the gay with isis jeberti .

  • Peace!

    Dear All,

    Stagecraft: ISIS Video ‘Execution’ of Ethiopians in Libya Appears Fake!!

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/stagecraft-isis-video-execution-of-ethiopians-in-libya-appears-fake/5444466

    • Abel

      Dear Peace!
      It is even more scary if ISIS is capable of such a high tech manipulation and why was Gambela in red?

      • Peace!

        Hi Abel,

        It should not scare you; in fact, it gives you a hint to learn more about ISIS.

        Regards

        • Abel

          Dear Peace!’
          True, what is your take on the silence=denial of Eritrean Government and Eritrean orthodox Tewahedo church?
          Where are the famous apologist for HIGDEF in Awate forum???

          • Peace!

            Dear Abi,

            Good question, but unfortunately I don’t have an answer. As for the whereabouts of famous apologist for HIGDEF, they are likely watching Tv, federal (EPRDF) police beating up innocent protesters for demanding answer to the involvement in Somalia.

            regards

  • AMAN

    What if our ( Eritrean) peace loving and good will to Ethiopia
    is seen as weakness and even defeat by some extremists from
    Tigray and other provinces like some are still thinking and believing
    it like that or like what the Deki Alulas and Ethiomedia and other medias
    were trying to write and insuniate the history of Ethio- Eritrea.
    For this reason there should be some mechanism to shut them up and
    give them some lesson they will accept and not forget to show show it
    is not or who is holding the power. Otherwise, to tell your Eritrean people
    to accept every woyane/Arena dictat and imposed ideas by Eritrean leaders
    amounts to accepting defeat and submission. And the political leaders are
    the ones who lost and defeated in their leadership and yet they are not taking
    or accepting responsibility and only hiding and even trying to make it look like
    the people and Nation are defeated.
    So please accept responsibility for your defeat and having lost the war against
    woyane and do not try to sell it to the people and the Nation who stood against
    woyane and won the war against them.
    Because there should be some way to cut and eliminate the dreams of woyane/tplf
    of ruling Ethiopia by handing over the power of state to the people.

  • Dayphi

    Welcome back L.T. from your trip to Eritrea. Hope you enjoyed your holidays there among family members and loved ones.
    Hayat presented to you the heavy load questions. My additional questions about life in Asmara would be to enlighten me and you awate.com friends tell us the cost of living compared to the salaries. Like a krai geza brimo secondo with shared mogogo and bathrooms monthly rent..a kilo of meat..one derho. A dozen of eggs. A dozen of bani..monthly electric/ water bill. How about faHam and 3incheiti…. price a medium size Tell or begi3…..a litre of benzina…or total transportation expences per month…..taxes and wage deductions for various reasons….. number of houses demolished during your presence in Eritrea…and price of any/ all other important things needed by any family for their month to month aspeza like shukkor,zeiti, ” tchew berbere” as we say it. And thank you in advance for your info.

  • Nitricc

    HI LT; The weyane are beating up the people on the street. I have no idea why allow it on the first place? I just hope no more blood will be shade.

    • Ted

      Nitricc, did you see the clip TPLF acting like apartheid thugs
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=33&v=SlfWp0fNa9s

      • sara

        Ted,
        they call them FEDERAL not TPLF, i don’t know what it means in ethiobia but that is what they call them– a sad day turned to an ugly show of brutally in the country.

        • Nitricc

          Hey Sara all is same. Federal police is just the name. I think. i don’t see any difference .

      • Nitricc

        Hi Ted; ya sad, I sow that but don’t tell Semere that was in Addis and by Weyane; he will come after you with everything he got. He thinks TPLF are the most democratic and civilized people. First I was surprised the Weyane allowed it then if you allow it let people express their grief. I thought it was dangerous to allow such demonstration among repressed people by most repressive regime. Anything and at any point could turn the table. I don’t know how you beat up like that your own people. Semere Andom and Hayat’s democracy style.

        • Semere Andom

          Nitricc:
          Can you coax your brain so the following sticks:
          Let Ethiopians worry about their people.
          Why are you concerned more about Ethiopia more than you are about Eritreans

      • Abel

        Dear Ted/Nitricc,

        Pleaseeeee..,
        This is a just a minor hiccup in any democratic process. People freely demonstrated(taboo in Eri land), the handful fanatic muslism Semayawi party followers who misbehaved were teargassed,no one was shoot at or killed,nothing to fish here.

        Why don’t you explain to me the denial of the Etritrean Orthodox Tewahedo church and the government of HIGDEF/ PI/ of the beading, massacre and mass murder in Mediterranean sea of innocent eritreans???

        • Ted

          Abel, thank you for the inside info why such brutality in a mourning occasion. I am glad no one is killed.
          There is a lot to chew on about the report Eritreans who got killed by ISIS, hundreds drowned in the sea.

        • Semere Andom

          Abel:
          Good points. But also you remember when after the 2005 election people died when they clashed with the policy, what did PMZ say? And what did DIA say in 1994 when the disabled were deliberately killed by IA?
          Even in the west such unfortunate things happen and people die then the rule of law takes over, people like Ted and Nitricc expect angels from democracies while they are fine with devils who suck blood in Eritrea.They brain is criminally wired and prone to mislead.
          I always say and will repeat now, we will witness the brutality of PFDJ once the young demonstrate in Asmara, just wait and see what these people will say then: clue, they will tell us the CIA was behind the demo

          • Ted

            Semere, who is going to demonstrate in Asmara while you are waiting for them at beaches of Italy with pre-approved migrants visa. You are in a pickle.

          • Semere Andom

            Ted. You are a liar. prove that I am waiting.
            I am just telling you do not gloat over the hiccup of the beating in Ethiopia, it will be blood bath when the mothers or kids do it in Asmara, what will you say then?

          • Abel

            Ethiopia has an over ambitious progressive/ developmental/ government with a lots of shortcomings and very little room for multiparty democracy.But the undeniable fact on the ground is, the government and the people have register a near miraculous achievement in all sectors specially the economy,there is definitely room for more reform in democratization.As for the recent tragedy,the government have shown full respect for the unfortunate loss of innocent human life with three day official mourning and the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewhedo Church has declared them MARTYRDOM and ordered seven day prayers in all its churches.What else could be done? bomb Libya?

            The big question is,where is the proper response from Eritrea and its church? you would be dumbfounded to watch the dankera on Eri TV. How sad.

          • Semere Andom

            Hi abel:
            I do not disagree with

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Haw Semere,

            If the Eritrean people didn’t come out to the streets to challenge the government for holding full responsibility, to bring home the 369 dead bodies who are drowned in the sea, how one can expect the “profile of courage” from the Eritrean people to show up in the street against the beheading of the 3 Eritreans? I don’t think will happen as long as they are under the grip of PFDJ regime.

            regards,
            Amanuel Hidrat

        • Dayphi

          Selamta Abel wendimye…..
          Semayawi party is a muslim fanatic party? Please clarify..
          Thanks..

          • Abel

            Dear Dayphi;
            Dimtsachin yisema gave birth to semayawi party, I think they try to manipulate Islam as a stepping stone to their political ambition. Abay is in a better position to explain, please read below his comment.
            Thanks

  • sara

    Dear Nitricc
    you know, in the past there was a word commonly repeated , but this days completely forgotten , that i remember was …guilty consciousness , and it heaves with many people i know. some of course act honestly and do good things to those who owe us all the opportunities we gained so far, others run forward and deny and blame those who created those opportunities for us, and i read them here every day in this forum and i know some of them well somewhere.
    btw, do you know anyone in south africa,

  • Semere Andom

    Hi All
    Europe has been gripped buy the tragedy that befell the migrants in the Mediterranean Sea. EU is between a hard place and a rock: in on hand it want to limit the influx of the immigrants and on the other the siren calls of their humanity that ingrains some morals is feeling guilty for allowing this to happen under their watch and in their sea. And they have come up with some tentative package to help the migrants they say. Over 300 of those who perished are Eritreans and their government never looked after them, never acknowledges them, in fact in 2013 it denied that they were even Eritreans, it called them Africans, as if Eritrean is not in Africa and to add insult to the injury it denied their bodies their remains to come home. This is shameful. But even more so is the supporter of PFDJ in this forum, who do not skip to be nosey about Ethiopia and bless everything PFDJ does or does not do.
    PFDJ and the government they preside are still talking out mosquitoes and vaccines that safe lives, when there are no lives to save in Eritrea.
    Ethiopia remembers its dead and is mourning their victims of ISIS, Eritrea is celebrating ins silence the death of its youth, probably devising ways to profit from it and so are their supports in this forum

    • Abel

      Dear Semere Andom,
      Please read the link; What a hero,a classic Muslim Christian solidarity unto death…
      http://www.somalilandpress.com/ethiopia-muslim-martyr-among-those-killed-by-isis/

      • Dayphi

        Hello Abel.
        That was contemplating in my brain for the last three days. I just hesitated to ask, as it could be misinterpreted by some. How do we know they were ALL Ethiopians? Because IS said so? How did we determine they were ALL Christians? Did we have the list of their names and religion affiliation? Have the beheaded faces been positively identified with their ID,s? For the terrorist IS, anyone, even muslims of different school than theirs, is KAFFIR, worse than christian. We know they beheaded muslims who by mistake prbably shaken of fear, answered the number of Fajr Rakaas, 4 instead of two. Some beheaded for not reciting some short suras peoperly, or un-able to recite them. Guess what! Most suras have more than one name. People when scared dont know what they say. They dont even have full control on themselves and defecate and urinate on their cloth. Back home, i didnt know what salat fajr is till grown up, because i grew up knowing it as Salat SubHi… not salat fajr.

        • Abel

          IsIs is an extremist bent on creating a havoc in the world.I personally think they are the result of clear invasion of stable countries such Iraq, Syria, Libya.Yemen…by the west.What matters to them is the market for selling their state of the art armaments and the contract to reconstruct.Frustrated people unable defend themselves resorted to such heinous crime.

          ISIS was desperate for propaganda tool,they didn’t care who they are or their religion,they just want to terrorize black Africa. Fyi, Jemal R. was not murdered by mistake,he openly declared muslim and choose to show solidarity with his life. So far only a handful are identified by their families and friends,I am sure no one has access to the corpse for a test or a proper identification.In fact it is irrelevant and doesn’t make much of a difference,Ethiopian, Eritrean, Christian or a Muslim is one and the same.

          *What is shocking is the silence/denial of Eritrean government and Eritrean Orthodox Tewahedo Church.How dare they deny their own.

          May they all rest in peace.

          • Dayphi

            I agree. It doesnt matter their identity and and religious affiliation. For that, it is more prudent to just say 30 ethiopians or better yet, Habeshies. Because there could be among the beheaded ones Eritreans, or Ethiopians of Eritrean origin, or even muslims who do not ascribe to the same beliefs of the IS. As to the story of that .uslim volunteering to beheaded, i take as a ta talizi g story to be taken with grain of salt, no reporters were wittnessing the slaying and no survivors to even report the massacre let alone tell such minute story of what words were exchanged between the villai s and the victims. But again, i do agree with you it is the human loss regardless of their nationalities or faith affiliations.

          • Dayphi

            If one thing i missed, it is the gossip that all these could be orchestrated by Egyptian Military Junta of Field Martial CC. When he failed to persuade Ethiopia stop building the Renaisance Dam and loss of support to his idea even from Sudan, punishing Ethiopia to lure her into direct confrontations with Libyan rebels and get her into a hole she can’t get out of. It is only a gossip amo g some Egyptians,
            I dont think it is the case; but in this all conspiracy generation, i dont know what to rule in and what to rule out.

          • Peace!

            Dear Abel,

            Very well said!

            Regards

          • Semere Andom

            Hi Abel:
            On your take about the west, well it is complex. The west need to defend itself, the region and the religion that producing the most terrorist need to make a decision as this will be a vicious cycle. IS will be defeated and a new one will emerge on its wake, the west will intervene and rightly so. Iraq as we know is dead, it will be 3 countries: Sunni, Shiet and Kurdistan. Then Arab world will be as usual small family owned states who have no clout and the region will be under perpetual strife, death and chaos. this war is not between the West and Arab word, it is between modernity and antiquity, between freedom and tranny. We have to call it as it is, not mincing words not to offend the Arabs or the Muslims who have dithered to introduce rule of law into their societies. The criminals are few, but lots of people coalesce around the fringe to create such havoc. One thing is for sure Islam and Muslims are not criminals, the crimes by the likes of IS is committed in their good names and they have not stood up to them.

  • Nitricc

    What a show of sympathy! I am surprised Weyane allowed this kind of demonstrations to take place in the middle of Addis. ISIS will unite the world like never before.

    http://i2.wp.com/mereja.com/album/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/meskel-square-in-addis-ababa-today-1429679691g84nk.png?resize=632%2C474

    • SenaiErtrawi

      Nitricc,
      “Toute nation a le gouvernement qu’elle mérit” or “Every nation gets the government it deserves”
      – Joseph de Maistre

      I suffer because I share a nation with people like you.

      • S.Tesfa

        Dear SenaiErtrawi,

        “I suffer because I share a nation with people like you”.
        So true !

      • SenaiErtrawi

        “Strip today’s Kansans of their job security, and they head out to
        become registered Republicans. Push them off their land, and next thing
        you know they’re protesting in front of abortion clinics. Squander their
        life savings on manicures for the CEO, and there’s a good chance
        they’ll join the John Birch Society.”

        (Frank, T. 2004 “What’s the Matter with Kansas?”, pp. 67-68)

        People like you are the Arkansans of Eritrea. Enslave their
        sons/daughters, destroy their houses, steal the gold sales and hide the
        money in Swiss, . . . . they will blame the Weyanes.

    • Hayat Adem

      Nitricc,
      This looks great. I also read Ethiopians and Eritreans in Houston went out in a spirit of solidarity on vigil light together to remember ISIS victims.

      • Dayphi

        Sallam Hayat…..and that a very good news to hear in this sad days. We need each other for survival. We need the solidarity of both people. Afterall, Eritrean Christians also use the same libyan territories infested by IS beasts to attempt cross to Europe. And i hope this will be a lesson to ALL to stop this adventure of crossing the Sudanese and libyan deserts unarmed unprotected. And since they can not carry weapons in countries outside their borders, it is imperative NOW more than anytime before to halt this incursion into libyan deserts. It is illegal, it is very risky, and may create unnecessary intervention of Ethiopian military into the volatile landscape of libya. Going to libya as a soldier is not fun. Our forefathers warned us of that from their experience as Etalian Askaries.

  • Hayat Adem

    Dear L.T,
    Why don’t we do this…you are right, I have not been to Eritrea for some years now and you have been there this last January. You have a better position to report Eritrea. So tell me which parts of my complaint I got wrong and tell us places you go, people you meet and the good things you saw and the things you saw that you wanted them to be improved. For example, is the youth exodus untrue? Is the Med and Senai death untrue? Is the National Service accepted and supported by the people? Your turn, I’m all ears…
    Hayat

  • Sarah Ogbay

    Dear Eritreans in this forum,
    For the last two to three days I have been reading news papers I can get hold of, websites I believe are interested in Eritrea and Eritrean issues. Nowhere could I find any party leader ( 34-37 parties!), spokesperson or representative coming out and speaking for these Eritreans who their parties are supposed to stand for. Am I missing something? I see few individuals and small groups trying to do something in their humble ways. God bless their hearts. I am really angry, in fact, infuriated by what is happening to us. We have just heard that out of the 700 or so migrants who drowned in the Mediterranean 350 are Eritrean, an Eritrean mother died with her child in the Greece islands, of the 28 who were beheaded by ISIS 3 are Eritreans ( one of them is a typical example of how our youth are suffering by going from country to country, from desert to desert to the sea and then back to the hands of ISIS — KERTET YBLU MESAKIN). None of these party leaders are out from their hiding. As I said, I am desperate and infuriated, please allow me to say what I feel and think about these cowards.
    1. I believe that they do not deserve the word ‘party’ or ‘parties’. They do not demonstrate any quality of a party or parties in any sense of the meaning of the word. They are simply power greedy individuals put together (can’t even stand each other). They are like huge immovable stones/obstacles standing in the way of the opposition camp.
    2. They do not stand for Eritreans or Eritrea as to love your country, the first and primary meaning of it is to love your countrywomen and men. You stand up and represent people only if you have some empathy, conscience, emotion etc. These guys don’t have it at all. They are all narcissist ELF/EPLF leftovers.
    3. They are cowards so afraid of PFDJ, shaking even when they are so far away. Some could even be in the payroll of PFDJ in this new PFDJ scheme to crash the opposition. We just don’t know. But we should know they are cowards through and through! Evidence? they should have been standing next to the Italian Prime minister, or on the shores of the Mediterranean next to the rescuers. They are not there. They are afraid of being photographed. Few Eritrean women are there. They will probably come up will few releases/MEGLETSI after the dust has settled.
    4. They have to understand that God willing if change comes to Eritrea, they will be standing in court defending their betrayal of our people, both the nameless and the named victims of the sea and desert and prisons.
    5 At this moment our enemy is not only DIA/PFDJ it is the opposition parties as well (all 34-37 of them). We need to fight them.If we are determined we will win-NOW. We just can not keep crying endlessly!
    Guys, It is getting too late for Eritrea and Eritreans.

    I wish Awate would give us the list of their names and contacts. We have to name and shame them. What do you think guys.

    • Dayphi

      Dear Sarah…Oppositions share their responsibility in enlightening the youth of the dangers of the sudanand libyan deserts risk as well as the risk they take embarking on those 20 metres discards fishing boats. But how about the youth themselves who Allah saved them from the hands of esayas and arrived sudan and ethiopia, who instead of being grateful for arriving safely and receive the shelter and food and education they receive, prefer to gamble with their lives. When will you start blaming them for their committing such suicidal trip? When will you start blaming yourself, myself, and all Eritrean relatives whoare encouraging such stupidity and paying between 6000 and 10000 follars for their brother/ sister transportation accross

      • Dayphi

        The desert and over mediterranean. And when things go bad, blame it on others. When will we stop blaming Rashaidah or mention the traffickers of other tribes if we must mention the tribes.? Why Rashaidah are the ONLY Eritrean ” biher ” named when things go bad in human trafficking? I think it is disenguinine to blame others when the main source of these havoc are the fearless less who gamble with their souls and those who finance the trip from the refugee camps all the way yo Italian islands. We must dtop pouring dollars to the trafickers. We must educate our relatives who Allah has saved them from the slavery of esayas and arrived to border countries to be patients, use their arrival to sudan to learn and work there while their assylum papers are done in due time. 1.5million Eritreans have managed to live in different towns and villages of Sudan. Many more are living in in Ethiopian refugee camps as well as in cities such as Addis and Gondar, over 1000 are joining Ethiopian Universities every year. I know and admit life is not comfortable in mu3askeraat laji’een. But with the help of relatives sending the 6000 dollar in a course of six years will definitely make it easier. So my advise is for the refugees stay in the refugee camps or any place of Ethiopia and Sudan. Get the work permit and start supporting yourself. Followup with your asylum process. Get a suplimentary support from your relatives on average 1000dollars a year for six years ( the exact amount they would anyway throw it to traffickers ). Hopefully in six years they will fly to US, Canada, Europe, Australia legally. As our abew used to say MENGEDDI SELAM, 3AMET KIDDA. Crossing the desert, and sharing a foot step in a condemned 20 metres long fishing boat with other 700 souls is NOT megeddi selam.

        • sarah ogbay

          Hi Dayphil,
          While I agree with many of the points you have made, I do not put the blame on the young people. We have to undrstand that these young people who grew up under the present regime are nothing but people who are moulded to self distract. They have never seen human life being respected and all they have heard on the media is ‘this is nothing compared to what tegaelti had to go through’ kind of propaganda. They are made to feel guilty everytime they are abused. It is always their fault. They are to do what their HALEFTI said and not what their parents said as the string that attaches them to their parents has been cut when they go to sawa very young. They do not have any idea what selfworth is or that life is precious. When did they experience peaceful humble life? We are supposed to help them unersdtand that they are useful and worthy not blame them. Yes they should stay in the refugee camps but then they are young blood that cannot be sitting around in a camp for long time. Please cut them some sluck.
          As for the parties, Now that tragedy has struck again, where are they? Should they say ‘It is their fault, so we don’t have any responsibilities’? Or should they cease the opportunity and make eritrea’s case be heard; do something on how the bodies can be taken care of or how their relatives can be told or investigate how this is happening. This is the time they have to make sure that it does not happen again. It is because of the ‘parties’ disunity and ineffectiveness that we find ourselves in this situation again. Lampadusa 2013 tragedy should have been a turning point in Eritrean politics. But then people do not matter in Eritrean poltics. Right now We the people of Eritrea are ready to be governed and administered by anyone who respects us. Finally for the whole misery to stop PFDJ shoud go.

          • Ted

            Dear SO, Do you have to resort to insulting the victims to make a political point;(“They do not have any idea what selfworth is or that life is precious”).This young people are heroic as their fathers/mothers who died(19000 of them) for the country you call now mine. You seem to be angry at the “parties” but in reality you are not different or better than than them. You cry for youth who you don’t have any respect that you assumed them to be damaged goods. Save your tears. As usual like the “parties’ you despise went after the easiest thing to feel good about yourself; blaming everything on the government. What about educating the youth the death and suffering is not worth it for the chance to live in Europe. i am sure it is a tall order for you and the likes of your.

          • Semere Andom

            Look who is talking, Ted.
            I think SO is saying that the youth were abused by PFDJ and therefore she is exonerating them of any blame. But you cannot help but defend PFDJ that is what you doing here, otherwise So is actually one of the mildest when commenting.
            You pontificate as if you love the youth more than those who oppose PFDJ

          • Sarah Ogbay

            Dear Ted,
            I am surprised that you did not like my sympathy for the Eritrean youth now. In other words you are saying that they are coming to their tragic ends knowingly. As for their heroism, Really Ted? you want to go there? have you had a chat with anyone who has come through sudan, libya and the sea. If you have not, please talk to them and see what and how they tell you the abuses they went through.
            Ted, there is no need to be rude in this forum. You should not try verbal abuse the way PFDJ do.

          • Ted

            Dear SO, it is you who insulted the youth not me. Did i understand it wrongly when you say they don’t have self worth. In my book whatever the cause it is an insult of higher order. you belittle them as nothing, a herd with nothing to stand for and for your convenience you connected everything on PFDJ. Some of us were at some point in their shoe and we know how things are described. They are heroic defending their country and will do so not people ” HALEFTI ” told them but they believe it worth dying for. It unfortunate they are going through suffering and death traps but to use them as a tool is not genuine on your part to say the least. “You should not try verbal abuse the way PFDJ do.’ what else is new. It is easy to blame but harder to share the burden and do something about it.

            Semere, for the youth to march on street of Asmara? Heard the saying, you reap what you saw. There is nothing you have done to make you think it is happening. Better stick to your weyane tank, and hold it tight, it is going to to be bumpy ride.

          • Semere Andom

            Ted:
            like always changing the subject. I never said I inspire it,? Come one Tewodros, u do not have faith on the youth, are you saying they cannot do it. I am asking you, if it happens and PFDJ mows them what will u say, answer it without cowardice

          • Ted

            Dear Semere, if it happens it won’t be because you cheerleade them from your Meqelle office but they believed in it. It is not new Eritrean youth to die for a cause. Don’t get twisted, it is us(the Great MS) who begs you to have faith on your people instead of going to enemy of the state TPLF for help(invade). Don’t you think it is pathetic to want take advantage of the misfortune of Eritreans for your malicious drive. i do think so.

          • Semere Andom

            Ted:
            Answer the questions and if you do not get it, I can dumb it down, just ask

          • Ted

            Semere, i will celebrate those who got killed and carry their torch.

          • Semere Andom

            Ted:
            You are having trouble with this question, so let me offer my help: how about condemn action of those who killed them??

          • Ted

            Semere, you are thicker headed than i thought. Forget condeming, to carry the torch is to continue their struggle, to die as they die

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Ted,

            I am aware that we do not have the caliber of Weldeab Weldemariam in the Diaspora–unfortunately, the metal from which people like him were created is not available anymore.

            But I just want to see your way of thinking, do you think what Welwel did to encourage the young to rebel and claim their rights was wrong? What is someone tries to emulate him? What if him and Ibrahim Sultan were alive and called for the Eritrean youth to act, would they be considered evil? Is every creature qualified to do what the vigorous youth can do? How do you describe the Eritrean parents who not only encouraged and fed the youth to fight for their rights, but funded their endeavors? Please just give me your honest thoughts.

            thank you

          • Ted

            Dear SJ, if you have followed my postings, i like to put all my eggs on the basket of of Eritreans. I believe the Eritrean people can be trusted to fight for their right at home and of course a rebel against oppression can not be evil.

            “What if him and Ibrahim Sultan were alive and called for the Eritrean youth to act, would they be considered evil?” those people had balls and you know they live and fight for Eritrea with every breath they take. What you have now is the likes of Semere and Hayat. good luck with that.

            First, the opposition shot themselves on the feet when they and their handlers made it easier for the youth to flee than stay at home and fight. Second)Eritrean parents are not dummies that they know their country is in danger and the fact the opposition sided with those known to work to weaken Eritrea haven’t made easier for them. third) Eritrea is poor and even made poorer by the unjustified sanction and smear campaign orchestrated by West and supported by opposition. I have zero hope on the opposition in this current situation but i have high hope on the people of Eritrea who are in hostage like situation demanding for justice. And i believe Eritrean people are for reform than other forms of chaotic changes.

            SJ i know you don’t like the term opposition to be labeled in a broad stroke way(Osman) but if you see it from ordinary citizens point of view, you would understand..

          • Semere Andom

            Ted:
            Your premise about why the youth are living the country is an absolute lie. You are just repeating what the Sophia T said accusing Elsa Churum, Meron Estifanos and Father Mussie Zerai of human trafficking. You can advocate for a reform like many Eritreans chief among them Sale Younis, but do it with dignity of truth. I also support and believe that the safest, bloodless change is reforming, but it will not happen, you can take that to the bank. I do not know how you live with the consistent lies about the opposition as the reason for the youth living? It takes a talent and PFDJ has that talent. You also lie about Sem and Hayat asking for invasion. You may hide behind reform, but you are not for reform as you lack integiry. heated debate sometimes can go the gutter, I see that but you get to tell the truth and I find you are devoid of it. You use the reform safe way of helping PFDJ stay, but there are genuine Eriteans who are for reformation to save the nation from collapse, you are not one of them as your foundation is not truth, it a house of lies
            And typical of a coward, you have not answer my q f what would you say,
            Also you can take this to the bank. There will never be status of IA in Eritrea, but some of the opposition members like Gadi, Sal, Elsa Churim, Mereon Estifanos, Aman Eyassu their contribution will be indelible as future generation will research and read what they said and what they fought for.. When history is written, no one in the opposition will be accused of human trafficking or organ harvesting, but several in the PFDJ will be taken to court for these crimes.
            For all I know you can be profiting from the youth exodus

    • SenaiErtrawi

      Dear Sarah,
      You believe they do not deserve to be called “party” – which I agree, but then why do you bother to talk about them. They are not parties, they can not be expected to function as parties.

    • Hope

      Selam Wo Senay Dottoressa:
      I hear you and I feel your pain, and that has been my cry—-I ended up being an”enemy” of Ustaz Saleh Johar for expressing my cry the way you tried but in an “unpleasant” way,which annoyed Ustaz Saleh Johar and he,rather,hit me hard with name callings,when i was expecting him to understand my frustration and my message,considering him as a serious Top Figure in the Opposition Camp–with a potential to influence lots of things and people/personalites and the so caled ” parties.”.
      I think you can escalate your new organization by joining Ms Elsa Chyrum..Dr Alganesh,–along with Ms Kedija and others…and develop your own better party and fight the fight and walk the talk.

      • sara

        Dear Hope,
        are you suggesting another party to increase the number to (34-37 to 38) if the existing parties
        are not able to fill the aspiration of the eritrean diaspora ,why do you think another new one will make a difference.
        btw, i thought those you mentioned call themselves civil societies not parties, correct me if i am wrong.
        good day!

        • Hope

          Ahlen Sara.,
          I was ” sarcastically” advising Dr Sarah to organazie a better “Party of her own” but at the same time,giving my 5 cents opinion/”advice” to lead the Lead.

          • AOsman

            Dear Hope,

            After agreeing with Sarah Ogbay emotional message and showing your pain, your advice sounded serious as one who has giving up on all of them and pinning your hope on our heroine to join hands and show how it is done. But that was “sarcasm”!!!, am I missing something.

            I don’t know what to make of Sarah #1 to #5 points, as we go through this ordeal year on year, we can talk loaded with emotions, but it wont solve our problem or make us any better than those we complain about.

            It is time to stop complaining and assess what each one of us can do and take some level of responsibility moving on.

            Regards

            AOsman

          • Hope

            Ahlen Ustaz AOsman/Mr Moderator,
            Thanks for the input.I am afraid that you misread me….My “sarcastic ” reaction to Dr Sarah was to clarify to her that it is NOT that much easy to have a better and Organized Opposition Party in our case based on the history but I did strongly seconded her in her legitimate cry..
            I am on the same page with you that all of us should do our part…,which I ” sarcastically”/ via ashmur,advised the Doc..in question!

      • Peace!

        Dear Hope,

        The opposition groups are nothing but a joke that so far they have failed to achieve anything valuable other than insulting PFDJ with creative adjectives. Even those who defend the groups can’t even come out and endorse the group they think has the right vision for the country. It seems to many members of the failed groups, opposing PFDJ is personal that they really don’t care what might happen to the country after the imminent fall of DIA which most Eritreans are worried to the extent they chose to remain silent.

        regards

    • Abel

      Dear Sarah Ogbay,

      Your raised a valid question, but here is one tiny exception.
      መግለጺ ሓዘን ስምረት ምንቅስቓስ ኤርትራውያን ንድሕነት ሃገርስምረት ምንቅስቓስ ኤርትራውያን ንድሕነት ሃገር፣ በቲ ኣብ ዝሓለፈ ቀረባ መዓልታት ኣጋጢሙ ዘሎ ጃምላዊ ህልቂት ዝተሰመዖ መሪር ሓዘን ይገልጽ። ሞትን…

  • ‘Gheteb

    NPR’s Eritreans Migrants Report: All Things NOT Considered

    Greetings All,

    NPR ( National Public Radio) on it’s Tuesday April 21st, 2015, “All Things Considered” reported on the Eritrean migrants fleeing their home country. The host of the program, Robert Siegel, did a typical middle of the road presentation with Don Connell as a guest. The audio report’s link is provided at the end of this post. The interview lasted about 3:43 minutes.

    Well, one wouldn’t expect a more thorough and exhaustive discussion on this issue in such kind of a radio program. The questions presented to Don Connell were unremarkably average and rudimentary. Mr. Connell, true to form, didn’t disappoint and rehearsed the usual and the most familiar leitmotif when he responded to Mr. Siegel’s question of why many Eritreans are fleeing from Eritrea to Europe.
    Here is a coup d’oeil ( a brief survey or glance) of the interview. Mr. Siegel gave what amounts to a bird’s eye view about Eritrea and said that “Eritreans figure a lot more as migrants to Europe” and asked Mr. Connell ” why are so many Eritreans fleeing to Europe” ? “What drives so many people out of Eritrea” ? Mr. Connell asserted that ” the biggest driver is the program of national service in which young people are conscripted into the military for training and assigned to a variety of jobs that are often at subsistence pay that can last as long as a decade”.
    Well, the main reason or cause why Eritreans are emigrating or fleeing from Eritrea as stated explicitly by Mr. Connell is “The National Service”. There could be other minor reasons or drivers that are driving many Eritreans to flee their home country. However, let us just assume that is the root cause and therefore demand that the Eritrean Government restore the duration of the National service to 18 months maximum and demobilize those who are now serving in The National Service.
    Now, does anyone honestly think that the emigration to Europe or other countries from Eritrea is going to come to an end? Or, just simply restoring the National Service to 18 months and sending all that still in the service back home will bring this crisis of emigration or fleeing from Eritrea will abruptly come to a halt? Well, consider the following:
    (1) What will those discharged from the National Service do to earn a livelihood? I am talking about job prospects here.
    (2) Does anyone with a sane mind say that the Eritrean economy is robust enough to absorb oodles of Eritreans seeking jobs?
    (3) Given the prevailing conditions in Eritrea, does anyone really think that the international community or other donor organization will be willing to help financially in the demobilization process?
    (4) Eritrea is still under a UN sanction and this has directly or indirectly has taken its toll on the overall health of the Eritrean economy. Shouldn’t that be factored in assessing what the impacts and effects of demobilizations are going to be?
    (5) Doesn’t the “no peace no war” condition between Ethiopia and Eritrea and the uneasy relationship of Eritrea and the sole Super Power be taken into consideration when one mulls over the prospects of demobilization?
    (6) Ignoring to take into consideration all the afore-mentioned factors would be tantamount to inviting either an unknowable situation or would even be a recipe for a disaster.
    I believe that if the Eritrean Government were to demobilize those in the National Service, unemployment and lack of better job prospects would supplant The National Service as the major PUSH FACTOR. Of course, the PULL FACTOR will always be there because of the simple fact that Eritrea will still be a developing country for some years to come.
    The recent EU development aid to Eritrea is meant to create jobs thereby offering some employment opportunity to those Eritrean youth fleeing from their country in search of better economic prospects. Here is a small window that the Eritrean Government can use to demobilize some of those still serving in The National Service. Those who have been caterwauling and kvetching that the EU should not offer any aid to Eritrea are also the first ones who have been complaining that the Eritrean Government should end the National Service requirements.
    And spearheading that media campaign from the groves academe is non other than Don Connell. Actually, he rivals Selam Kidane for omnipresence.
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    • Hayat Adem

      Nice try, Gheteb:
      We’re every mistake we ever made; we’re every people we’ve ever hurt; we’re every word we’ve ever said; we’re made of our own flaws. That was Confucius. You can’t just ignore your mistakes as they are the basis for all the new beginnings. I think Don is the go-to person when it comes to Eritrean affairs: he has the tools; the passion and insider information while maintaining a reasonable detachment that is needed for an objective look and account. The media can always raise important questions and NPR’s all-things-considered did just that: “why are Eritreans fleeing their country?” You also raised very valid questions and I’ll be addressing those.

      PFDJ is an amazing political organism. They shot themselves on the foot and they try to reason you with disability hardship. Gheteb, we can discuss and solve the last half of the mile but let us also talk about how we got there. You don’t create a new reality and invite discussion only on the part that says “Since we are here, how do we solve our problem from here?” The “no war, no peace” you are talking about was a condition borne of war and conflict the PFDJ brought and triggered. It is the direct consequence of PFDJ policy actions. Isolation and sanctions as well are results from the PFDJ work. Weak economy and poor job opportunities are of course what all the PFDJ have been naturally up to by tying up the famously known entrepreneurial hands of Eritreans. All these are problems we have at hand, like you said. But they are all problems mothered by PFDJ. They can only be solved by changing the system and the owners of the system. That is how all the problems and the doubts and the unknowns you listed can be addressed. No war no peace situation seems to stay as long as PFDJ is there to stay. Sanctions and isolations seem to only grow as PFDJ grows in age and power. National Servitude will of course continue as a trade mark of the regime, and demobilization would be unthinkable under PFDJ. And the economic and job opportunities would even shrink further. All push and pull factors for migration are there and growing.

      The solutions you seem to be implying are 1) let things continue and evolve by their own pace; 2) let’s make things better for PFDJ so that they can get better. Well, the first one as a matter of choice is a no-starter. I know we’re living it forcedly but it has become the manufacturer of all our problems and hopelessness. Given a choice, you would want to change it firsthand. The 2nd one is not a solution either because PFDJ has become a deadened organism, an organism that breezes but unable to respond to stimuli. The only solution at hand is to remove PFDJ. There are many ideas on how to do that. Discourses should be directed towards sorting, selecting and enriching those ideas, not about extending the lifespan of a deadened organism.
      Hayat

      • Hope

        Dear Ms Hayat,
        I do not believe that you are entitled to answer Mr Gheteb’s questions and concerns COZ YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY BIASED BY CHOICE….
        Yes,indeed,eventhough you are entilted to your opinions,which I ” respect as such”,I am of the opinion that you have NO Moral and Legal Grounds to challenge Mr Gheteb and his concerns.–simply coz of your biased stand and approach and dishonesty.
        Here is how I understood him:
        1)The root cause of the exodus is not ONLY National Service,but there are also other causes that the Biased, the Politically and Intellectualy Bankrupt Dan Connell,ignored deliberately.
        a)The Illegal sanction has indeed aggravated the over all condition,not just the Exodus only
        b)The NO WAR,NO PEACE status that you and Mr Dan Connell support until this nano-second did indeed/has indeed contributed a lot!
        c) the continous threat-be it real (beyond real one,in fact) or perceived by the same TPLF Junta you have invited to inavde Eritrea–has indeed contributed to the mess!
        d)The illegal Occupation of the the Eritrean Sovereign Land,has indeed,contributed to our suffering—at least giving the same PFDJ excuses to keep things status quo
        e)The de Facto Economic Sanction imposed by all the conspirators besides the direct threats by your own TPLF Junta—-has indeed aggravated the situation.Did I hear that your own cousin Eyob Medhanie just todl us that since the Ethiopian Puppet Premier is presiding over the COMESA or something like that,Eritrean Economy will remain dead?This is besides the IGAD’s de Facto Sanction by the same evil TPLF junta!
        But you are proud of the same Junta cooking all tthese evil acts and you are telling us that the PFDJ is the only culprit…Please,go to tigraionline and Aiga Forum and preach that Sermon!
        You need more?
        I will let your “Mesatu” to debate with you–the Ghetebs,the Salehs,the Mahmoudays,the Teds,the Peaces…and please go ahead and invite T kifle and ask them to help/rescue you to gossip back about the Salehs–(Did you tell T kifle: ” Atahamiyeni’ebba Ni Saleh?)….
        The point here is that the problem needs an integrtaed approach from all corners and by all the Stake Holders including,but NOT limited to:
        -a)The Unconditional Withdrawal of the TPLF Army from the Soverign Lands
        b)Then Unconditonal Dialogue between the parties in a mutual way–not in a bullying and threatful way.
        c)Honest and Generous Support by the EU,USA,etc–the IGAD included to bring Eritrea to play a constructive role…rather than containment and isolation of a Nation trying to survive–and at the same time blaming it as a culprit,when in fact,is the major victim..
        d)A coordinated and well resourced anti-Human Trafficking practical campaign and action
        Etc..
        If at least some of the above are realiized,then the PFDJ cannot do any thing but come back to its senses….
        But here is another challenge though:
        As Dr Sarah Ogbay lamented legitimately,what are we doing other than crying and finger pointing at the PFDJ rather than helping the helpless nation and people?
        Ms Hayat,
        Here is the Hypocrisy–at least per my observation and understanding:
        To my best recall and knowledge,I have never seen you challenging those to be chalenged–including the lame Oppositoon and its sponsor,the TPLF Junta,other than protecting and rewarding them?Why is that?
        BTW,did you read Mr Getachew Redda’s Report about how the Eri women an dteen girls are being treatted in the remote and isoated filth Tigray Camps?If so,.why could not you say a word about it,specialy if you are a woman?
        Please advise…and Good Luck with your old-styled Psycholgical Warfare against Eritreans!
        kindly,
        Hope

        • Hayat Adem

          Dear Hope,
          You said: “I am of the opinion that you have NO Moral and Legal Grounds to challenge Mr Gheteb and his concerns.–simply coz of your biased stand and approach and dishonesty.”

          Even biased person has has moral and legal ground to challenge ideas and distortions. But would say Gheteb’s views are totally biased and I don’t still deny him grounds to challenge me if he can.

          You also said: “BTW,did you read Mr Getachew Redda’s Report about how the Eri women an dteen girls are being treatted in the remote and isoated filth Tigray Camps?If so,.why could not you say a word about it,specialy if you are a woman? ”

          This I don’t understand and I ask you to give context and some clarifying explanation.

          • Hope

            Thanks Ms Hayat for your prompt response eventhough I never expected you to debate with kids like me —-

            No,not at all,at least in my naive opinion,that in such a case of serious National Issues,biased and dishonest people have NO RIGHT–let alone Moral and Legal Grouds to deliberatelty distort Facts for the sake of doing so as it escaltes thealready messy situation..

            Let me rephrase my wording/poor English here about Ato Getachew Redda’s Report:

            “BTW,did you read Mr Getachew Redda’s Report about how the Eritrean women and Teen Girls are being MIS-treated and ABUSED in the remote and isolated filthy Tigray Camps?
            If so,.why could not you say a word about it,specialy if you are a woman? ”
            Please refer to : ethiopiasemay.com or meskerem.net Front Page–on the left corner, for details.

          • Semere Andom

            Hope
            Get real for change. dishonesty? whose dishonesty is creating havoc, Hayat’s from behind her keyboard or PFJD’s? Why not target them, Hayat can wait until she gets to power
            aalso about the Eriterean girls in Tigray camps, why are you shocked, there are crooks in Tigray too, but why are these teenage girls in Tigray the first place? Let me see your honesty or dishonesty.
            Eritrean women are wronged all over and even sold by PFDJ as prostitutes in Jubba and other places, why are you not saying a word about that, sir. Why do you always love the peripheral issues that that core?

          • SenaiErtrawi

            “Strip today’s Kansans of their job security, and they head out to become registered Republicans. Push them off their land, and next thing you know they’re protesting in front of abortion clinics. Squander their life savings on manicures for the CEO, and there’s a good chance they’ll join the John Birch Society.”

            (Frank, T. 2004 “What’s the Matter with Kansas?”, pp. 67-68)

            I am posting this again, people in “meskerem.com” are the Arkansans of Eritrea. Enslave their
            sons/daughters, destroy their houses, steal the gold sales and hide the money in Swiss, . . . . they will blame the Weyanes.

            They make up their mind based on stupid speculations (region/religion) whispered to them by the propaganda machine of the same entity (03) that is destroying the country.

          • Hope

            Mr Sem,
            Do NOT try to be more Catholic than the Pope.
            We know the ins and outs of the PFDJ,not just its weaknesses and mischieves or crimes.
            tsemam hade derfu.
            Did we deny the PFDJ’s dishonesty and the havoc it has created?
            Change your strategy buddy.Blaming the PFDJ and the PFDJites only is not the solution.If you are honest enough,do you believe in your right mind tha the PFDJ forced those teens to drop from school and run to the hellish Tigray Camps?
            You know exactly why they are running to those Camps.Don’t you?
            Ok, the PFDJ factor is there..but do NOT forget your own Master’s speech saying :
            :”We do NOT need expensive bullets to subjugate Eritrea and Eritreans but building Camps in the deserts of tigray there by to drain the Eritrean Youth and let Eritrea and its Gov collapse silenty by it self(Eritrea nd its government”
            .Courtesy of PMMZ(RIP).
            I believe you and your likes are exceuting that “order”.Aren’t you?
            Kudos to you and congrats for the ” Mission Accomplished”!

        • Ted

          Hope “The point here is that the problem needs an integrtaed approach from all corners and by all the Stake Holders including,but NOT limited to” Well it is good but what is it for them, haven’t you learned in the 15 yrs from the opposition front.They don’t have the will or desire to share the burden of the government knowing it well the outside forces are working to undermine our country as independent nation. That is where they fail miserably to win the hearts and the mind of Eritrean people. For them(the opposition, 37 of them)), It is the competition for recognition among themselves who can punch harder while the West holding The government firmly against the wall. Some go to Ethiopia , some go to HRW, some go to EU…..but they have one thing in common, they need the supper powers to weaken the gov by any means necessary irregardless of the suffering it cause to ordinary Eritreans, a sick vindictive mind the end justifies the means motto.They petition for sanction, they petition for asylum seekers, they petition for to EU aid, they justify Weyane invasion, they justify the occupation of our territory….their despicable act has no limit. Do you surprise what Don Connel , the friend of Meles Zenawi, has to say about Eritrea. He has a job to do.

    • Semere Andom

      Hi Cousin Gheteb:
      The indefinite National Service or what is aptly called slavery is the big chunk of the reason youth are fleeing the country in proportions that will have very negative impact for the future of the country, if there is future left for it that is. When PFDJ is done with Eritrea you will not recognize it. You are absolutely correct when you said that if they are demobilized the unemployment will supplant the NS and also that will be the end o PFDJ, the dawn of Eritrean Spring and that is the reason DIA tried to preempt the border demarcation with the Warsay Y’kaelo Project, put in a different way making the slavery even more ubiquitous in the society. but the border was not be demarcated and the project only has a school under its name as an epitaph, the Sawa School, where teenage kids are snatched from their parents to be exposed to violence, rape and initiation to the PFDJ demon. But I know this, a fact that you glossed over to make case for the NS and this is a gift or a shock for Sal as I will say something nice about us 😉
      If the youth were demobilized and PFDJ was a real government working for the interest of the people, Eritreans will create their own jobs, would not depend on the government and most of them I would bet that they will toil and moil to better their lives when left alone. They will roam the globe safely for business, work and opportunities. Eritreans did it in Ethiopia, in Sudan and the Middle East before, they can do it again and that would have been good for Eritrea. But the NS, the bondsman sweat is only enriching the thugs at PFDJ
      And I am with Hayat on always atrtibuting our ills to third party, CIA, USA, UN and Woyane. Do not look further just look the human trafficking and organ harvesting, Eritreans are doing it to their brothers and even former tegadalti are involved in these heinous crimes, our women are involved in it. So cousin, we are not that innocent, our hands are stained with blood as well. We need to face our demons. For sure not all of us, but the crooks among us

    • Haile WM

      Dear ‘Gheteb

      I think that the motives that lead Eritreans to migrate are complex and deep rooted, blaming the national service alone won’t do it. National service is the main driver, but people are running away not only from it, the grim prospects back home where earning a leaving is very difficult, lack of future for the youth, the wrong perspective of a heaven in the west, the suffocating grip of the PFDJ on every aspect of life, etc…

      The PFDJ has embarked it’s self in destructive policies in the last 24 years in general and in the last 12-13 years even more aggressively pursuing its survival rather the wellbeing of it’s people, with lunatic shifts in it’s politics and policies. Of course halting the national service or restore it to it’s 18 month duration won’t do it. I would stop the push factor but for the pull factor will be there.

      the pull factors on the other hand are originated and fueled by PFDJ.
      PFDj has monopolized the economy of the country, private sector is virtually nil, corruption is sky-rocketing, land and housing problems are well over mishandled and causing a lot of havoc, consider the latest folly by PFDJ that of destroying houses in many parts of the country.

      i don’t think helping the PFDJ will solve the riddle, the EU funding projects is only a masquerade for the people who will benefit from such a help would be the corrupt officials withing the inner circle and nothing beneficial will ever go to the suffering populace. A government with out accountability will never solve the problems it created in the first hand.

  • Dear Aman,
    Whoever plays the blame-game does it with the aim to transfer responsibilities to others or postpone a solution. Ethiopians and Eritreans can continue to bark at each other for eternity, but they will succeed to hurt only themselves and nobody else. The world is fed up of their petty squabbles, it is ignoring them, and few Eritreans or Ethiopians seem to be aware of it. We are shortsighted people, my friend. Unless we bury our selfish
    ego and seek for peace and reconciliation, we will never reach where others have reached. On the contrary, we will continue to live in our small world of pettiness, accusations and counter accusations, until we whether away, for that is the fate of people who live in contradictions.

  • AMAN

    Dear Awates and Readers
    Greetings,
    So far our groups struggle against PFDJ / IA has been
    to make him stop and change its policies of championing ideology
    and make him champion the lead of the Eritrean people which some
    Ethiopian brothers and sisters sometimes find it odd and unacceptable.
    For some uknown reason they want us to leave some of our Eritrean people
    behind by putting barriers of ideology, ethnic Nationality and religious affiliations
    which is not acceptable to us Eritreans to do so.
    People and the Nation are primary and first agenda while denominations are
    second class issues that concern the local governments. And the reason we despised
    the politics of PFDJ/and its opponents of the last two decades is due to its nature centered
    in sub-national issues and feud for power while the greate primary and main issue should
    be centered on the National agendas like National Defence, Foreign Relations, Internal/ Local
    Administration ( I think this one is partly dealt with) and Monetary and Financial issues and policies
    that should be the agenda of the central government than dwelling only on the religious, Awraja,
    ethnic Nationalist issues which all fall under one department – the Interior Affairs Department/Ministry.

  • Dis Donc

    Dear folks,
    I will come out and mention it now that I am not Eritrean nor Ethiopian. I have to say this because the last reponse for my last comment (which was about a year ago) indicated that if I had some sort of identity crisis. Glossing over the comments I noticed that a lot did happen over the course of the year, here in this site. Many names were called, many came and went, many stayed and many heads clashed. Two things remained the same. They are this site and the great impass. Impass of constitution, impass as to how to get to a new Eritrea, impass about where to get help, impass as to what kind of government for the new Eritrea, impass… Our brothers (sisters) are dying in high seas, deserts, and by a mob, trying to reach modern societies, on a daiky basis, Why not build a modern society right at home? So I ask you, to only those who are here for serious discussion, if you can write a series of articles about modern societies and democratic systems. The titles will be as follows:

    I. Intro to Constitution and Law of the Land
    II. Democratic Economic Systems
    III. Legal Systems
    IV. Democratic Civil Institutions
    V. Educational Systems
    etc….

    I have lived in many countries, spoke many languages, and worked in many professions. And hence my take will be very different from yours, Eritreans. I believe an organic solution will be of a better choice. So who goes first….

    Please no callling names nor hurtling insults. Only serious discussion

    • Nitricc

      Organic; huh? Well here are things you need to do; to go fully organic. the Solution is easy!
      Working and reasonable rule of law that protects citizens!
      Social justice and elimination of poverty OVER democracy!
      Authoritarian developmentalism OVER democratic one!
      State-directed economic growth OVER open private sector!
      Strict National security BEFORE human rights!
      Single well centralized political party OVER political pluralism!
      Social justice and elimination poverty OVER democracy!
      Self reliance and go through hardship OVER depending on AID!
      By all accounts and by all means necessary AVIOD World bank!
      You want organic and home grown? Go ahead……

      • Dis Donc

        Dear sir/madam and greetings to you as well,
        I have no idea what is what. Can you write an article elaborating at least one of them, please. I am accountant and legal advisor/lawyer and as such I do not understand single lines. References are needed as well. Simply writing single lines is tantamount to equaling one to the almighty. Readers are not in seminary schools where they are told take it in faith or political cadre schools in where the readers are told to put up or shut up. What say you? If awate is either one of the above then I am in wrong place.

  • tes

    Dear AT,

    awate.com is the hub of super ideas and a center of our collective legacy. It is the web that need to be glorified and institutionalized. Her cleanness is good for our future democratic process. And cleanness in a democratic institution comes through continuous hard work and over coming the challenges not through taking serious actions only.

    Eventhough these days awate.com is in constant attack, all this is because of her strong influence in the political landscape of Eritrea. The more the growth is, the more the opposition comes. In my SWOT analysis of awate.com, the strength are much stronger than the weaknesses. In fact, the weakness is not because of the web but because of visitors.

    Dear AT, today, awate.com is going to the peak. And many will try to drag her down. It is natural. No one comes and opposes unless you are doing good. The more the growth is, the more the opposition will be. For this, I see it in a positive way. And to maintain the growth, AT staff in particular should work hard in bringing new topics, ideas and topics for debate. The challenge will be there but only through challenges the web and we consequently can grow.

    Let me write what I feel these days about the challenges awate.com is facing.

    Awate.com in general and the forum in particular has at two extreme developments.

    1. Discussing on big ideas and really impacting the political landscape of Eritrea in particular and Ethiopia in general.

    2. Being under constact attack of PFDJite infiltrators.

    It is very natural to see PFDJites and the extremist Ethiopians trying to block this web-site from advancing her contribution at high level. But the strategy now is getting very complicated from time to time. The more the forumers are exposed the more the complexity arises. For example, some forumers, when they are full exposed, they never feel ashamed to vomit their extreme hate (like GK). Some advance their idea as if there is no tomorrow (the abbysinian funadementalist and habesha extremists) or divert any issue that heats PFDj hadrly and projet hate based propaganda (the PFDJites).

    The first category (extreme haters) are ok as they can blocked for good.

    The abyssinian fundamentalists are fine as we have lived among them for the last 60-70 years. Their lines are clear and alwaying war mongering.

    The new and to-be opposition approach of PFDJites is one that is trying to use the forum as their means. It is a new wave of cycber attach launched by hard core PFDJites. It is a new approach that is coming unde “LET’S BE MEMBERS OF THE OPPOSITION and WEAKEN THE PILLARS”. They are mastering on how to use their enemy’s tool in order to advance their political propaganda. And to stay hitched, they PRETEND, some use one nick name but with different people (like selam). Unfortunately, their mission is clearly visible even to an ordinary visitor of this forum.

    In fact, they are hiding under the cover of saay7. saay7 is a blessed resource for them. selam comes number one to use this opportuniyt. Nitricc was here and will continue as he is.

    Ted also has a very complex but of pure PFDJ mission. He must be one of the finest PFDJ cadre. He knows how to engage in a safe way and yet he never failed to advance PFDJ ideology.

    Others can easily be identified from their postings.

    Saying this, if I played a negative role, I apologize and I mean it.

    Glowith to Awate University.

    tes

    • Ted

      tes, Sherlock Holmes, whatever you say i am a fan. I have learned a great deal in this University including your favorite phrase “the intention of ideas” I see those who has twisted intentions as Enemy of my country. I dont see all PFDJ people with bad intentions but ignorant schizophrenic who think everyone out is to get them.( you know, there is medicine for that)It has been 24 yrs and counting to know they are bad for my country but still i choose reform considering the instability revolutionary movement causes and vultures circling us for the feast. I am here to learn why PFDJ is not worthy of reform. My understanding of reform is that the endeavor to change elements of the system for better. So if it applied with good intention by the stake holders(Eritrean people) why not reform? The bad out the good in. Tes, Where do you fit in this catagorization of people?.
      I don’t know why you call me PFDJ ,explanation could help but it doesn’t matter because only “ideas and the intention of ideas” is in the chopping block in this university..

      • Nitricc

        Hi Ted. Let me give you one very important advice. When you deal with Tes; check the time in France on your smart phone and if it a minute past 7 pm don’t bother communicating with him. I am sharing this with you after extensive observation. This cat is on.

        • tes

          Dear Nitricc,

          You are absolutely right. And I am at work till 7pm. I only start to comment then after and hence I become on. Yet I never failed to make you accept my hardlines. You are the first forumer to acknowledge my statements fully (as per your own words, hard to do it).

          Dear Nitricc, let’s work on ideas please. 10 years you are a trusted awatista. When I read that I resepct you and at the same time suspect you. I respect for your persistance but suspect for your intention.

          tes

        • Ted

          Nitricc, thanks god it is only the liquor, at times i thought he has multiple personality otherwise fine dude when he is off of it.

  • T..T.

    Hi all,

    The awatistas don’t appear to have discussed the committed crimes broadly in order to clearly identify the components of the problems faced by the people en route to Europe illegally.

    Let’s see, the Eritreans, Syrians, and Somalis do not have access to passports, while the Ethiopians and Sudanese do. According to Eritreans, the journey is not only extremely risky only but also exorbitantly expensive. The question that follows is: why the Sudanese and the Ethiopians are in such risky and expensive journey when they can do it legally and peacefully?

    Now, let’s see at the ticket givers. In Libya, there are anti and pro-Europeans. While those pro-Gadhafi want to punish Europe by flooding it with refugees, the other group is paid to scare off the refugees who are en route to Europe. So, caution must be exercised not to generalize. Anyway, for the real refugees no fear will hold them back because they already crossed the worst death while crossing the borders of their countries.

  • asmerom

    To the Moderators
    Oh !! what happen to awate.com ?? A place where big ideas used to be discussed and where we used to learn and mature from interaction of respected views of our great individuals . Before it turns to the worst I hope you will find a way to stop this childish interactions that is going on among individuals and put back awate.com to its respect place.
    thanks

    • Nitricc

      AT have you lost your mind? One toothless comes out from his hiding and said a few words and you go crazy? It is an open forum and at times things will deviate from what is normal and what intended to serve. You can’t just take a knee jerk reaction becosue some one who never sacrificed his time to write one post while deleting ours. You are taking the passion out of this forum and your desire for absolute control of what is said on this forum will greatly damage land take the life of this great forum I call home. What is a debate with out passion? It is not like we are killing each other. As much as we abuse you; please don’t abuse us by deleting our posts.
      My point? Don’t take a knee jerk reaction becosue some toothless utters something. It makes you look like you don’t have a vision or idea about the website; which it is not true.
      In my part I will minimize my take. I thought I was watching my words today but I guess not.

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Dear Asmerom,

      This website has been transformed almost to an educational institution by the hard work of the Team (AT). And to see these disrupting individuals dragging the educational-discourse and the lofty ideas of the team, indeed one can’t stay hand tied or mouth shut while they are attacking the institution of knowledge. So reminding AT to take action is an advice from an adult.

      regards,
      Amanuel Hidrat

  • Dear all,
    On both sides of the divide, there are people who are very dangerous to peace, and they are also the biggest obstacle for Ethio-Eritrean future reconciliation and co-operation. Those on the Eritrean side, have two main characteristic manifestations. First, they will go to any extent to prove their Eritreaness by acting more Eritrean than any other Eritrean; they distrust other Eritreans as much as their allegiance to Eritrea is concerned, they are ready to strip them off their Eritrean identity, and they call them all sorts of names. Secondly, they hate Ethiopia with all their hearts and with all their soul. They demonize and anathematize anything Ethiopian, and at the same time, they are devoid of empathy for Eritreans that die in all four corners of the world, They characterize them defectors, electronic gadget-hunters etc. They never were (and are not today) part of the suffering Eritreans. They straddle both sides of the border, looking for their interests. Although they have every right to hate Ethiopia, as long as they believe that Ethiopia has mistreated them, by evicting them from Ethiopia, where they were born and grew up, nevertheless, it remains disingenuous of them, when they do not sever the umbilical cord of interest that continues to join them to a country they so much hate. They so often find themselves in the country they abhor.

    In addition, these people know one and only one fact, that Eritrea the land they believe in, is DIA, and DIA is Eritrea, and nothing in between, i.e. the Eritrean people. These two concepts are the center of their philosophy. The first although not the land of their dream (that is why they never set foot there), nevertheless, it is the land they can cling to, at least in their thoughts, the other, although he is not the ideal ruler, he is the only leader they know, and the leader who might give them meaning in their new reality.

    • Nitricc

      Hi Horizon; First of all why do you care about anything Eritrean? And secondly no one hates Ethiopia; if I tell you the truth and you translated as hate; then there nothing I can do for you. It is very true your country begs and your leaders promote begging than teaching work ethic, dignity and self-worth. It is true; your country allowed a gay conference on your own capital city after you were threatening AID will be cut. Because begging is a way of life; you gave in and gay conference was carried out. The westerners tried to pull that shhhit with Uganda and the brave leader told them to shove it, you know where and it never happened in Uganda. It is true you have a fertile land with plenty of water yet, you go hungry and you beg; if that is not enough you gave your fertile land for free to foreigners while dislodge your own people from their land. It is true; you are ordered, killed, looted and treated like a dog by 6% minority. Where do you want me to stop? So, if telling you the truth is hate then shove it …..

      • Semere Andom

        Nitricc the hypocrite;
        Why are you serving a country that pride itself for the rights of gay so much that the late pastor called it if God does not one day punish America he will have to to apologize to Soddom and Gomerra ?

        And if Ethiopia is not attractive why do you run away to it and you know it more than your failed country of PFDJ?

        • Nitricc

          Hi Semere; I know you are too slow but let me remind you what technology can do. I don’t have to go anywhere to know places. I know for you it is like unheard off but try to catch up your self with technology and surprise no more. And for your information; your country Ethiopia is supposed to be the land of the Christians not a running ground of a bunch of white gays. The Ethiopians sold their dignity for a sack of grains. Look what can do being addicted to begging; it raps you your dignity; something Semere have no clue. I know living in Canada is no difference living in Ethiopia charity, beg and hand-outs. That all and I get it.

          • Semere Andom

            Nitriccs:
            So that technology does not allow you to know/research about Eritrea and Canada, it gotta be made by you or in Sawa

      • Hi Nitricc,
        You must be among the few who do not understand that your problem has become the problem of the region and beyond.
        There is nothing honorable in bragging about self-reliance when children are malnourished, the country cannot provide the basic necessities for its citizens, and young people lose hope and run away in all directions. Ethiopia is learning about human rights from developed countries, and it is right that
        she allowed gay conference. Our fertile land will not leave the country, and we cannot depend forever on subsistent farming. We have ample land to go around, despite what others say. The 6% minority is your problem and not ours. That is why you are obsessed with them. The bad behavior they acquired from Shabia, they are leaving behind gradually, and they are trying to live in harmony with other Ethiopian ethnic groups. Nitricc, there is nothing new you are telling us here.

        • Semere Andom

          Horizon:
          Nitricc is just mad that his beloved IA and PFDJ disappointed him when the 6% minority has left PFDJ to the dust when they charted their own process to have a shot at success. If TPLF was friendly with PFDJ Nitricc will never criticise your country, he has no independent mind and thought of himself. Serray called him one celled brain and I translated that to Tigriniya for him, and the Serray was right. Earlier he asked me to prove that he hates Ethiopia, but he did it for me.
          He is the slave of USA military, a country that respects gay rights. He is not a man of his of his own. TPLF was an organization of its one and I do not think they learned from PFDJ except for the technical stuff when they were starting out, their MO cannot be different than PFDJ

          The fact is Nothing is sure in a complex country like Ethiopia , what matters is they are trying and there will be hiccups in the way,look at SA who would have thought in post Aparthied SA we would see blacks murdering blacks, Ethiopia has commenced the long process toward civilization and modernity that its former leaders denied it. It it succeeds it is the triumph for every human being and if fails it is the tragedy for humanity.But Nitricc’s Eritrea has started the disasterous process and its only out come s failure if to continues

          • አዲስ

            Hi Semere and Horizon,

            I repeatedly read here all the hate this Ntiricc person writes about Ethiopia and also read from others that he loves to go for vacation there. So my question is for you two(Semere and Horizon) and others who choose to engage him. What do you get out of it? You can clearly see what kind of person he is. Isn’t it a waste of time, energy, space to keep on engaging him?

            Thanks.

          • Semere Andom

            Addis:
            You are right nothing can be gained, but sometimes need to be exposed and this morning he challenged me that he does not hate Ethiopia and then lo be hold he proved me right

          • tes

            Dear Semere,

            In fact, you are not better than him. If you are a good person, you could have dropped this ugly man. But you are not. You like to stay around ugly people.

            tes

          • tes

            Dear AT,

            awate.com is the hub of super ideas and a center of our collective legacy. It is the web that need to be glorified and institutionalized. Her cleanness is good for our future democratic process. And cleanness in a democratic institution comes through continuous hard work and over coming the challenges not through taking serious actions only.

            Eventhough these days awate.com is in constant attack, all this is because of her strong influence in the political landscape of Eritrea. The more the growth is, the more the opposition comes. In my SWOT analysis of awate.com, the strength are much stronger than the weaknesses. In fact, the weakness is not because of the web but because of visitors.

            Dear AT, today, awate.com is going to the peak. And many will try to drag her down. It is natural. No one comes and opposes unless you are doing good. The more the growth is, the more the opposition will be. For this, I see it in a positive way. And to maintain the growth, AT staff in particular should work hard in bringing new topics, ideas and topics for debate. The challenge will be there but only through challenges the web and we consequently can grow.

            Let me write what I feel these days about the challenges awate.com is facing.

            Awate.com in general and the forum in particular has at two extreme developments.

            1. Discussing on big ideas and really impacting the political landscape of Eritrea in particular and Ethiopia in general.

            2. Being under constact attack of PFDJite infiltrators.

            It is very natural to see PFDJites and the extremist Ethiopians trying to block this web-site from advancing her contribution at high level. But the strategy now is getting very complicated from time to time. The more the forumers are exposed the more the complexity arises. For example, some forumers, when they are full exposed, they never feel ashamed to vomit their extreme hate (like GK). Some advance their idea as if there is no tomorrow (the abbysinian funadementalist and habesha extremists) or divert any issue that heats PFDj hadrly and projet hate based propaganda (the PFDJites).

            The first category (extreme haters) are ok as they can blocked for good.

            The abyssinian fundamentalists are fine as we have lived among them for the last 60-70 years. Their lines are clear and alwaying war mongering.

            The new and to-be opposition approach of PFDJites is one that is trying to use the forum as their means. It is a new wave of cycber attach launched by hard core PFDJites. It is a new approach that is coming unde “LET’S BE MEMBERS OF THE OPPOSITION and WEAKEN THE PILLARS”. They are mastering on how to use their enemy’s tool in order to advance their political propaganda. And to stay hitched, they PRETEND, some use one nick name but with different people (like selam). Unfortunately, their mission is clearly visible even to an ordinary visitor of this forum.

            In fact, they are hiding under the cover of saay7. saay7 is a blessed resource for them. selam comes number one to use this opportuniyt. Nitricc was here and will continue as he is.

            Ted also has a very complex but of pure PFDJ mission. He must be one of the finest PFDJ cadre. He knows how to engage in a safe way and yet he never failed to advance PFDJ ideology.

            Others can easily be identified from their postings.

            Saying this, if I played a negative role, I apologize and I mean it.

            Glowith to Awate University.

            tes

          • Semere Andom

            Tes:
            Please do not provoke me, I am not debating u until you clean your act and quit whatever is intoxicating u. OK?

  • ‘Gheteb

    Greetings All,
    Sure, pretty much everyone in this Forum has shed his/her tears about the death of the Ethiopian migrants in Libya . The tears of mourning and lamentations were loudly wailed by the cry-keeners in this Forum. I think it won’t be hyperbolic if I say that the water level of the Nile has risen due to the overproduction of tear drops so much so that the water dispute between Ethiopia and Egypt that a panacea may be on the offing. Boy, those lachrymose glands must have worked overtime.
    Hey, I am by no means trying to cry down the grisly and ghastly act of those who killed those Ethiopian migrants. I abhor all manners of violence. Not only decapitations and shooting someone at point blank, but even the violent language akin to those of thugs is anathema in my lexicon. The imprecations and violence prone imagery as utilized by the peddler of the Kool-Aid brand named ” Adam’s Life” is a case in point.
    In all the posts that were full of denunciations and replete with word of sympathy for the victims of those horrible acts, none that I have read so far raised this cardinal question. Why in God’s green Earth were those migrant Ethiopians were in Libya in the first place? Haven’t we heard that Ethiopia is this Earthly Eden in the Horn of Africa that all other East African nations need to emulate? Didn’t we read all the tall tales of over 10% economic growth that Ethiopia has been achieving these years? Aren’t some Eritreans exhorting us to follow the Ethiopian path? Haven’t they hectored us about the emerging “African Lion” in the Horn region? Nay, haven’t the likes of the peddler of the Kool-Aid brand named ” Adam’s Life” unabashedly asked for Ethiopia’s military help and intervention in the hope of overthrowing the Government of Eritrea. Well, no one has raised any questions that asked why those Ethiopians have found themselves in Libya or for that matter the fact that Ethiopians are just as ubiquitous as any other national to be found in all of the recent migrant stories.
    However, had this Libyan incident been about Eritreans, after a perfunctory utterances of mourning and condolences, the accusatory fingers would have gone to an overdrive and we would have been afforded all manners of analysis , meta-analysis and commentaries all decrying the PFDJ misrules of Eritrea and its misguided policies being the reason why Eritreans have fled the countries. I have absolutely no quarrel with any commentary that tries to locate the source or the main cause why migrants are fleeing their home countries. No, I think it has become a taboo among some Eritreans to raise these pertinent questions when it comes to Ethiopia. But, if anything that is going to put the Eritrea as led by the PFDJ is in the news, then it is an open season to query and question not only the source/cause of the problem or issue at hand, but to question and doubt the very notion of Eritrea itself.
    In short, that is one strain of the many sorts of cognitive dissonances that one culls from all the pronouncements and posturing of these Eritrean elements.
    http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/04/20/ethiopia-anti-extremist-policies-islamic-state-attacks/

    • destaa

      Dear Gheteb,

      You raised important points. First let me put my guess how the problem you stated happens. In my view, it is natural that in this site (Eritrean opposition site) anything bad on Eritreans is related to the Eritrean government and analyzed deeply. The same happens in Ethiopian opposition sites for Ethiopian government. The other thing that I see is Eritrean opposition sites are by default pro Ethio government and Ethiopian opposition sites are pro Eritrean government. Anything considered as good is given weight by the other countries opposition media. You see here Ethiopian achievements being emphasized (some are true but it is, I think,also deliberate as it helps to attack the Eritrean government which is the purpose of the website). And I have seen how some forummers here tried to shut someone who related ISIS attack with the intervention in Somalia but the Foreign policy raised similar points. The problem in activism, for me, is you try to use anything possible for your objective and disregard other truths.
      And, by the way, try to visit Ethiopian sites (Dire tube and others) where the people mainly demonstrated against the Ethiopian government because they believe its policy is the cause for the migration and it is not giving appropriate protection for its citizens. The awate forum Ethiopia and The ethiopian sites media(except pro government ones) are completely different in my observation
      And another point, people are saying there were Eritreans in that horrible video killings. So, it is bad day for both Ethiopians and Eritreans. The division is only online. Offline, they are dying together

      • Tafla

        Selam Desta, Thank you for the balanced and sane analysis.

        • sara

          selam tesfa,
          you are right it sounds so, but look and read around its is only 1 out of ten, most of them i think we’re expecting this ( gheteb to show up) and are all over defending ethiobia gov, though this was not necessary to be defensive and should have at least tell the truth that ethiobians are out in droves
          like all africans,because of the dire situation in their country.

    • Semere Andom

      Hi Gheteb:
      Wow, wow, you really blew me away. There is only one thing a sensible person, a smart person like Gheteb, the blood cousin of Sal should have said: denounce the acts of ISIS with simple and cogent description that you are known for. So this blunder is self-inflicted and speaks deeper than it tries to obfuscates.
      Let say the Ethiopians were looking for adventure, in a research daring trip, after all they the descendants of Adam, who after he was well-fed from the “Earthly Eden” he looked for adventure in daring God.
      If you see the chart in the link below Ethiopia is not there, meaning its contribution as refugee who desperately hazard negligible in the scheme of things.
      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/11548995/Mediterranean-migrant-crisis-hits-Italy-as-EU-ministers-meet-live.html

      • ‘Gheteb

        Wo Cuz Semere.
        See, I haven’t demoted you from the Cuz families yet. And, I kindly direct my Cuz Qtsub or Qxub Semere to re-read the second paragraph and re-read it critically and not merely peruse it. And, there, I mean right there is the answer for you.

        • Semere Andom

          Cousin Gheteb
          You should not and I did not demote you. this is humours and please do hang around with Cousin Sal more;-)
          I read that paragraph and hence my use of obfuscate 😉
          But I responded to the entire gist of your comment. I may elaborate and critic you alter “ale hassab almezaj” and time

          • ‘Gheteb

            Wo Cuz Semere,
            All I said about that Cuz family thingy is in jest. It was all tongue-in-cheek. It will take a Congressional Act for me to demote Cuz Semere from the Gheteb’ s Cuz families 🙂

      • selam

        Dear semere
        Do you know also Ethiopians are using Eritrean nationality to get asylum in Eurpe . You know that is afact unless you wanted to cover for your bosses weyane. There almost over 2 00000 Ethiopians all over using Eritrean nayionality. Get the facts straight it will not hurt you at all. If eritreans were bad they could have told all the european immigration office as a result all ethiopians especially tigrain brothers would have been deported. But hi they are our brothers what ever the politics.

        • abrham

          Hi Selam,
          Your number is too exaggerated. I am not going to believe in any ways but do you have any knowledge that many Eritreans who are living out of the refugee camps possess Ethiopian ID? They reside all over the known towns in the country peacefully because they are brothers.

          • selam

            Dear abrham yes I know , even there are people who open internet cafe in addis , I can give you their contact .Butmy point with numbers is open for debates , what is not open for debate is the notion people try to sell the idea , there are no ethiopians asking asylum , that I do not accept. To add to your point I know , eritreans who are buying mekele property market , and I know people who are using ethiopian id but that is not todismiss the all ethiopians. Go ask how many eritreans have given their Id tasera in ethiopian camp and the boss in the camp sell all eritrean id to the highest bidder.

          • abrham

            Dear Selam
            My beef is with your number, it almost exceeds the total number of refugees. The boss in the camps do not need any ones Eritrean ID they simply produce it then share the quota which is originally for Eritreans. Some Eritreans also prepare fake marriage certificates with ethiopians for sale. combined all these will not match your number.

          • selam

            Dear abrham which total number , I already tol you about the number you can come up with 10 nothing changes .If you admit my other points good .

    • welde

      hi Getab,
      i think you should know at least one of those killed by the monsters were Eritrean deprted from Israel ,regardless please, don’t politicize such hineaus crimes.

      regrads,
      welde

      • ‘Gheteb

        Hi welde ,
        I only wondered why people are not asking a simple question which is:
        Why these Ethiopians are ending up in places like Libya? That is only a fair question and I don’t think raising those kinds of questions is politicizing this issue.

        • abrham

          Dear Gheteb,
          Yes this is a very simple question. the answer is also the same, simple. we are extremely very poor with exploding size of population. No one from Ethiopians will deny this, but that doesn’t mean we are not moving up like never before.

        • welde

          Hi Gheteb
          Because they are human beings. Your question is targeted at the Ethiopian government, but this is nothing to do with politics. Don’t forget the monsters have killed many westerners in Iraq and Sirea. Are you going to ask the same question. Regardless of the reason people should be free to move around legally or illegally.

          regards,
          welde

          • Ted

            Welde, no one is denying the Monsters are doing what monsters do but at the end the question comes to political dialogue as to why people are trapped in the cross fire of monsters. Don’t you want to know why Eritreans are there, why Ethiopians are there. Why Eritrean is there is a forgone conclusion but why Ethiopians?

        • Dayphi

          Merhaba brother Gheteb….. Definitely a legit question. Not just of Ethiopians and Eritreans, but also of other countries like Nigeria, Ghana, even Sudanese. Why are all following suit of Eritreans to cross the Sahara and embarck on condemned 20 metres discarded fishing boats; i mean the reasons beside the understandable ” fallen between crackes ” excuse that we hear even in USA citizens defecting to Russia or Medical students getting opportunity in Cuba, they couldnt get it in inland U.S. BUT i believe today is not the RIGHT time to bring that interrogation. Our Habesha brothers and sisters on the southern side of our border are mourning the loss of their people by heinous terrorists who claim to serve Islam, والاسﻻم برىء منهم ومن سيوفهم….. We are sharing their grief today as we shared the grief of our Egyptian Copts when they lost over 20 men of their community by the same beasts a couple months ago. I have very few positive things to say about the regime in Addis with very long list of negatives. But as Arabs say, لكل مقام مقال…and the مقال of today is stand by our Habesha brothers and sisters of Ethiopia (they are not part of the regime) and specially the families of the victims and pray to Almighty Allah to grant them patience, solace, and better substitute of what they lost. Ameen.

      • selam

        Dear welde
        Not a single prove. The person they are talking is not confirmed yet. But as the current information there are eritreans held by IS. They were more than 80 people who was held for just their believe and it believed the Eritreans are not yet out to the bullets , I just have information from libiya . So do not just go for assena , Amanuel eyasu is a serial lair.so do his website.

        • welde

          Dear Selam,
          I am at a loss with your comment regarding Amauel Eyasu, what do you think he will benefit from such news? why woud he fabricate such a news? No news ,however grousome it is , won’t affect IA’s position. so whats there to gain? Don’t forget the victims have familys worried about them.
          Can you imagine how they are feeling at the moment, while you outrightly denaying the news altogether?

          regards,

          welde

          • selam

            Dear welde
            Ask him , this is the first time, he has made so much lies over lies. I have a prove of similar news from him . You want debate on behaveof him or you want to challenge me to prove his way of reporting is based on lies. He has lied about one family who was pershed in ethiopia but he posted article in other way this is just one example. He and his cronies has done so much lies.

    • Ted

      Ghetab, there is unwritten rule in the “opposition” camp. When Eritreans die migrating, to blame the Eritrean Gov for everything and when Ethiopians die in Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Libya, South Africa, we ought to shed our tears for the victims. You broke the rule by asking why they leave ” Earthly Eden in the Horn of Africa”

    • SenaiErtrawi

      Gheteb,
      Come on now, I have never heard the Ethiopian government or Ethiopians denying their poverty – as a matter of fact, I keep hearing them saying poverty as number one problem they are fighting against. No one can deny the long line to migrate to the Arab countries to work as maids, the illegal crossing to Yemen . . .

      But let’s assume the Ethiopian government is purposefully denying its youth of economic rights through corruption, mis-allocation of public resources . . . . which can only be seen as “Level-2” deprivation.

      The difference is, in Eritrea, the deprivation starts at “Level-1” – the deprivation of the right to own ones life. In Isayas’s collectivist world view, the life of the citizen belongs to the state (state=Isaias), and at this point, the state needs the youth to be enslaved by the army generals in an exchange for loyalty.

      If the Eritrean government behaved like the Ethiopian government and I were allowed to be free to work on my uncle’s shop, I would be making a decent living in Asmara, vacationing in Massawa at least once a month, and wouldn’t have to cross the Sahara to make it to UK. But I agree, Mehret would still want to go to Saudi Arabia to work as a maid if she does not have an uncle like mine. You get it?

    • Kim Hanna

      Selam Gheteb,
      .
      I had a very low opinion of you. Now, I have no respect but utter contempt for you. “Tears…Nile”, you sitting at your citadel and pontificating in this blind, ugly and hateful manner is enough to look at your empty soul.
      .
      K.H

  • Abel

    Dear L.T./Satan
    If you are not already high,please explain who Abune Diablos is .
    Thanks

  • selam

    Dear L.T
    It is really a shame that we spend time on that way. These young people could careless about what we say here , even they have no idea what is awate.com , but as human being and more necessarily as your brothers you should really care more. What is their crime to things that happen so many years ago.

  • selam

    Dear forumers

    what do you expect from a wastfull politicians ? Do you expect them to use a tragedies to connect with their people or to use the tragedies to score timely political points? Everytime such tragedy happen the wastful oppositiongroups with their toothless media to cry please hear me , I am the victim . Please expect to see some heinous articles to come and tell us lies.

  • Semere Andom

    Hi Selam:
    The Ethiopians , the Eritrean and other Muslims did not produce terrorist more than they produced papers, but they will pay for the crimes of those who are killing people in the name of Islam.
    I did not praise Israel, I spoke the truth,Israel is the land of laws unless you are one of those who want to see the state of Israel disappear into the sea. The only one in the middle of the 300 million Arabs who have chosen to be ruled by tyrants. Only the introduction of civilization to the Arab world will defeat ISISs of the future, The Islamic tyrant have made the Arab world uncivilized, you are talking about the people who created the pyramids and mathematics and Algebra
    The point is that rhetoric that ISIS does not represent Islam will not work as innocent Muslims will be wrongly targeted by the west when the later rightly tries to defend its security, you cannot expect the west to be always right therefore Muslims will be profiled and killed. The solution I articulated was for the Arab world where ISIS and most of the notorious terrorist hail from to create rule of law to purge the ISISs of the future

  • Ambassador

    Millennium-

    ወዳጄ ወረጃ…you insulted me first and again, and before I even think of reciprocating it in kind; you turn to grandstanding.

  • Amde

    Awatistas

    There was a phrase that stuck with me from many years ago. I don’t remember what book/article I read it in. But the author’s intent was to provide an overarching explanatory framework to describe the politics of the Horn. The phrase was “competing nationalisms”. The phrase worked for me to anyway as a good framework to understand the news, wars, politics and intrigues if the past couple of generations.

    It struck me that this is almost comical and quaint in terms of the kinds of news we have been experiencing these few days. We have collectively failed to give our people the stability to ensure opportunities at home. So they flee to the end of the land to be slaughtered by xenophobes or end-timers fanatics. The politics we play (and it is play – not serious) seems completely irrelevant, and out of odds with the current of the times and what these youth are craving.

    When I see how long the Taliban or al-shabaab or al-qaeda has survived even with intense attacks by the world’s most capable armds forces, it leads me to assume ISIS will be around for many many years yet to come.

    The news last week was of another boat going to Italy, a catholic land, that was overflowing, whereupon some of the muslims in the boat selectively threw Christians overboard. What are we to do with that? When did it become acceptable for even the most destitute fleeing their own hopeless lives feel it is ok to treat Christians in the same literal and figurative boat like disposable cheap trash? The perpetrators and victims were all West Africans, but to be honest with you that was a lot more disturbing to me than the calculated political act of a fanatic group. Even if it is shocking to see a severed head on an alien beach that looks like me.

    I don’t have a question or answers and I don’t mean to offend the muslims on this site, all of whom I like. Forgive the rant. It just seems to me we are entering trying times, and unfortunately our politics was and will remain an irrelevant elitist game.

    Amde

    • Nitricc

      Hi Amde you said “The perpetrators and victims were all West Africans” so, you are ignoring the Ethiopians who died in this embarrassing saga of South Africa? come-on man. I do agree as bad as what the ISIS doing toward innocent people; it can always be explain through religion. when things are happened in the name of religion anything unthinkable is possible and any possible is explained. But how do you explain what happened in South Africa? At least Ethiopians in DC demonstrated today in the South African Embassy while the Ethiopian government failed miserably.

      • Amde

        Nitric

        I was talking about those that were thrown off the boats.

        South Africa was xenophobia pure and simple.

        • Nitricc

          Hi Amde my bad, sorry i misunderstood you. while you are there; you said ” South Africa was xenophobia pure and simple” do you mean to say “Afrophobia” those animals never touched any one else but only poor African citizens.

          • Amde

            Hi Nitric

            Xenophobia. Happens to the best of us.

            Afrophobia i will reserve to what you would feel at my poor attempt to grow me a nice ‘fro. Never grows big, just gets intense and curls into itself.

            Amde

          • Nitricc

            Hi Amde i wasn’t criticizing your definition of Xenophobia. i just offered mine and the way i sow it fit.

          • Amde

            Hi Nitric

            I know. Just had to use the afrophobia in a lighter mood

          • Nitricc

            Hi Amde; oh okay. Amde; how about this for a reference point. the fact is when ISIS attacked the christain Egyptians; their president was in Addis for AU summit and he canceled and flew back to his country and ordered F-16 to retaliate and show respect for a victims. guess where is Ethiopian PM? well in Bahir-Dar attending TANA forum and he never uttered a word to show respect to his citizens. amazing!

          • Amde

            Hi Nitricc,

            I am sure he flew back to Addis.

            Amde

          • Nitricc

            Hi Amde Let me predict this that ISIS and Al-shabab will for unity and that will bering Ethiopia and Eritrea to cooperate in fighting ISIS. please keep this prediction of mine and one day will make look Mr. sunshine. lol

          • Hayat Adem

            Nitricc,
            That can happen if only you could convince Isaias that Addis is way closer than Mogadishu or Tripoli. Not easy!

          • Semere Andom

            Nitricc:
            My prediction is IA will secretly support ISIS and ISIS will control Libya and Ethiopia will go there for peace keeping and kick IA’s behind to borrow your favorite expression. IA is so mad that he was humiliated by Ethiopia and he will fight them any where in the planet. Then Eritrea will be sanctioned more for its support for ISIS

          • Nitricc

            Hi Semere. please Get it right
            TPLF was humiliated by Eritrea. Get it right. Did read what said linked yesterday that was composed by “Christoph Reuter” read it you may learn something . it says..
            “You don’t defeat the enemy you defeat the Strategy”
            On that regard; TPLF strategy was
            To overthrow PIA
            To capture Assab
            To reverse Eritrean independence
            To enter Asmara
            To wipe out 90% of Eritrean armed forces
            To close and dismantle SAWA
            To break Eritrean’s spinal cord
            Keep going; you should know what the strategy was.
            The point is your stupid TPLF accomplished nothing and was humiliated with over 150K human lose.

          • Hayat Adem

            Hi Nitricc,
            Once there was a cross-eyed judge presiding over a lower level court. Three young thieves were charged for stealing something and they were brought before the judge. The cross-eyed judge seemed to have been very angry and agitated before even hearing the defendants who were aligned in a row (from left to right: defendant 1, defendant 2 and defendant 3).
            Judge: you are worthless creatures and a shame to your family, to the society and to your country. I know how to deal with useless gangs like you. Now, start telling me you your names. You start (the order was meant to the one on the left, Defendant 1)
            Defendant 2; Your honor, my name is…(interrupted by the angry cross-eyed judge)
            Judge: Who asked you to state your name?
            Defendant 3: I didn’t say anything your honor?
            Judge: And who allowed you to say anything?
            The Defense Attorney who sat to the right of Defendant 3: Your honor, no word passed my lips…
            It goes on and on…

          • selam

            Dear Nitricc

            I was expecting the weyane fox to reply to you as expected it happened. Always always she will never ever pass comments that some how mention her backbone , it is like may day . Who do you think she will defend ? She is ready on target to spin the revolving door in weyanes favor. What is surprising is her ablity and shredded game .

          • Nitricc

            Hi Selam it is in Hayat’s DNA to defend her blood TPLF. No surprise there. What I am having hard time figuring is the likes of Aman and Semere’s obsession with weyane. Semere even assured us how to get rid of the weyane after they invade Eritrea. he said, if TPLF refuse to leave Eritrea after they overthrow PIA, then the Africans and the UN will protect Eritrea. You talk about dumb? Last time we checked out with UN; we bled 30 years. Here; my favorite song and I am inviting for everyone to listen and watch it; yes, even Semere. Lol

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYB9OaJUOXM

          • Semere Andom

            Hi Nitricc:
            You lied again. Can you bring when I said that. And am still waiting why do you know more about Ethiopia than Eritrea, are you from Tigray, half Tigrayan

          • Rahwa T

            Dear Amde,
            What is going here. I don’t have to tell you that Bahr Dar is in Ethiopia. Why should he fly back to Addis? He has already condemned the brutal killings of the innocent young men by the followers of the Satan while he was addressing the Forum.

          • Amde

            Selam RahwaT

            I was having some fun with the young general. He was fishing for some false outrage. I responded with some sarcasm.

          • Rahwa T

            Dears Amde and Abi,

            It is really funny. I am ashamed I fail to tell you were having fun with the little boy. Abi, you are right I should learn that in the future.

            Thanks

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear Amde,

            He is here for fun as all children will do. Children do not talk about serious things. If adults join them in their fun, they think they are adult enough and continue keep doing the same thing.

          • Hope

            Aman,
            BTW,
            Why would you waste your “precious” time chating with “kids”…here?Let the “adults” speak for themselves,sir!

          • Nitricc

            Uncle Hope; nice takedown! Forgive Aman; since SAAY gave him a left hook and left him with a bloody nose; Aman is disoriented with no direction to go and no idea to contemplate. If not, he should have known the major failure of his toothless opposition is the lack attracting the youth. I have never understood the sine of growing up is giving up fun. No wonder why this world is full of angry Amans. People chill out.

          • selam

            Dear Hope
            Amanuel is in deep mental crises even he can not remember his age.He is acting out side his normal time .He is young enough to deal with evil weyane plane while here he is old to debate with his country men. Do not you see his paradigm , he will travel miles to defend weyane while selling his yard. He is static to his own good . I am amused the way he dance with full of foxes and tell the young tiger to hunt meat for him and his cronies. Amanuel has zero role in the campaign against PFDJ nor does he have any plan after . What is he good is only for weyane . Please give him time to dance with style when hayat rock with her lost points of bombing. People like Amanuel are the main reason our fight is going back from one opposition group to may be 40 and then to regional , religious, adi , awuraja.These people are the main reason that the young is again divided in to so many un wanted grouping.

          • Hayat Adem

            Selam,
            It is interesting that you have the nerve to talk about opposition politics without an ounce of readiness to learn from and listen to people like Emma. That is up to you, but please don’t misrepresent me as if I called for the bombardment of Eritrea unless you want to lie in the open.
            Hayat

          • selam

            Dear Hayat
            First I am not that much ignorant that needs a lesson from people like amnuel. Amanuel is dead , he has zero role in the coming fight. He just need his pay cheque from weyane for his service in the dedbit conferences he has worked for 15 years. I did not accuse you hayat , I just repeated your idea . You seems to forget what you said about the 2 weeks of war you wish to get from weyane . Did I hit a wall full of your books , yes. By the way I did not lie but you want to run away from yourself in which I will not allow you to do that.

          • Ted

            Selam, Amanuel requests a birth certificate for every post he responds. In reality, if you subtract 24 yrs the time he wasted licking TPLF boots from his age, he is like almost in our age bracket. He will die young with TPLF.

          • Semere Andom

            Hi Ted:
            I know Selam sometimes comments when here boy friend dump or cheats on her, but for you to wish premature death on Emma and anyone is cruel

          • Ted

            Semere, it will be cruel if TPLF dies tomorrow, it is not since he(you) think TPLF will be here for long haul. if i wish you to have a longevity of TPLF, is that bad thing or Good?

          • selam

            Dear semere
            What you said is natural, I dump and get dumped but until now , I did not get dumped . I can change men like my wish it is a free world .But to try to debate on sexy way is not good for you and your daughter too. I hope she get what I get in my life. Here is the good news , you simply are explaining your life which every body knows you are kemal , arayi conference tickets for 15 years.

          • Semere Andom

            Selam:
            I do not have a daughter and when I have it she will not like you, I will make sure about it because she will respect people like Emma who struggled to give you what you have. The fact that you say filth like “arayi conference tickets” tells a lot about you

          • Nitricc

            ” I do not have a daughter and when I have it”
            It? Hi Semere; it is my opinion that you should not be allowed to reproduce. People with your IQ should be banned from having kids. You have nothing to offer; why punish the kid.

          • Semere Andom

            Nitricc:
            I said long time ago that I will be the head of the Eritrean sprem/egg bank so I can weed you out I am sure someone is ashamed of having you saying “may konka….”

          • Ted

            Semere, The greatest trick the Devil TPLF ever pulled was convincing Eritreans that the opposition are not castrated. You have no idea you are shooting blank.

          • Semere Andom

            Ted:
            You are right those opposition who were unlucky to be in PFDJ prison are castrated, it is torture method that you guys inflict

          • sara

            Dear selam,
            are you sure he is that ….. i though he is a vet,
            no wonder once i read he wrote” our EDF or tegadelti are head of pigs- even our people”
            what a day!

          • selam

            Dear sara
            yes he is just like that, but do not mind him , he is a lost one .so no one care what he says for 15 years licking weyane foot .let him kiss weyane foot and the young Eritreans are leaving him alone . He want his daughter to be respectful kf weyane lickers , oh I will call child protection office to hand him prison time for the crime he committed on his daughter. He is a cheap creature , even now weyane does not like him at all.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear Sem,
            Give me a quote from the bible please, that something that says “zebrowon ziblown ayfeltun eyom emo Aytehazelom.” After all they are kids to be cultivated.
            Amanuel Hidrat

          • Semere Andom

            Hi Emma: I will give you a different quote
            Master equity, be righteous, but turn away from the ignorant. from Surrat Al-A‘raf

          • Dayphi

            Merhaba Amanuel Akhuy….
            will this help? The Arabic version of same verse, i will try to post it in subsequent posting…..Good Luck.
            Yesus dmma, ” Abboy, zgebruwwo ayfelTun eyom emmo, HDEGELLOM” bele. Nkhdawuntu khe’a 3itch awdiqom temaqeluwwo…[ Wengele Luqas, 23:34 ].

          • Dayphi

            34 وَقَالَ يَسُوعُ: «يَا أَبِي، اغْفِرْ لَهُمْ، لأَنَّهُمْ لَا يَدْرُونَ مَا يَفْعَلُونَ!» وَاقْتَسَمُوا ثِيَابَهُ مُقْتَرِعِينَ عَلَيْهَا.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear Semere,

            I wasn’t home to refer my bible. I know where I should go and here you come with the exact verses. BTW, I just checked it. Thank you.

            Amanuel Hidrat

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear Dayphi,

            Thank you buddy. Actually the thanks should be attributed to you, as the one who cited the verse I was looking for. In the mean time keep your engagement, you are doing excellent in many ways.

            regards,
            Amanuel Hidrat

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Ted,
            We don’t need a certificate to identify the kids who are here. It is simple as that (a) by their unmatured communication (b) by their apololitical comments (c) lack of knowledge of their society (d) lack of knowledge the importance of peaceful coexistance (e) kids are usually aggresive. Then look yourself and your friend nitricc as oppose to others.

          • Hayat Adem

            Hope,
            When was the last time Emma chatted with you or Nitricc? Hmmm, you couldn’t remember, right? So, he is not wasting his time on you guys, he is talking to other mature guys.

          • Abi

            Rahwa sistu
            I think you have to multiply and train your comic cells to catch sarcasm as they are coming fast .
            Braking News
            Kibur PMHD Qey Bahir Darcha lay yadergut yeneberewun gubgnit aquwarTew wede Addis Ababa Temelsewal.
            Now it is a foreign land. ( for the time being)

          • Guest

            You knew prior to posting your comments that the PM did address the nation. You visited TOL prior to your comment. Did you not?Now you are trying to look smart. Anyways

          • Semere Andom

            Hi Nitricc:
            I followed your exchange with Made. And I cannot help but notice your obsession with Ethiopia. How come we never heard you say that PFDJ Eritrea denied its 300 citizens and never said anything bout the victims of the Rashaida organ trafficking? What does this make you? Do not bother answering it, I will do it for your. never mind about that too

          • Nitricc

            Hi Semere; first of all I was having fun with Amde regarding their dumb prime mister. I am just amazed he is a prime minster of 90 million people. And secondly I am not obsessed with Ethiopia; I am informed in real time about Ethiopia. If I was obsessed with Ethiopia I would have called TPLF to invade Eritrea as Semere Andom and his toothless admirer’s do. so, get it right.
            Regarding the drowned Eritreans; I said back then; I said PFDJ can’t officially recognize the drowned Eritreans. Slice it every corner you want; they have deserted from their post and they are considered defectors. You can not officially acknowledge them. If you see the Ethiopians who got killed by ISIS; they didn’t abandoned their post and they are civilians i.e. there should be no problem acknowledging them nationally and officially.
            The question is why do the ISIS didn’t kill any Eritrean? I got to believe there are some Eritreans in Libya. I think the dumb Ethiopian PM will think that because Eritrea and PIA support ISIS; lol. Don’t be surprised.

          • Hayat Adem

            Nitricc,
            Assenna has reported three of the ISIS victims were Eritreans. Even if your claim that there were not Eritreans and all the victims were Ethiopians were true, the first feeling a normal person feels is sad for the victims and a relief that others were lucky not to be part of this. There is nothing more you can make of such a tragedy.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hayat & Semere

            In the eye of the Eritrean government and PFDJ-kids in this forum, whether Eritreans are drowned in the sea or behead by ISIS, it is all the same. They will tell you if they deserted Eritrea they are not Eritreans and will not talk on behalf of them (the deceased). Nitricc, the spokesperson of PFDJ-kids in this forum has already told us. Yes indeed three Eritreans are beheaded and confirmed by friends and family of the deceased as reported by Assenna cited from Haaretz Israeli News paper. PFDJ and PFDJ kids are always indifferent or apathetic with the tragedy of Eritreans.

            http://assenna.com/3-%E1%8A%A4%E1%88%AD%E1%89%B5%E1%88%AB%E1%8B%8D%E1%8B%AB%E1%8A%95-%E1%88%B5%E1%8B%B0%E1%89%B0%E1%8A%9B%E1%89%B3%E1%89%B5-%E1%88%9D%E1%88%B5%E1%89%B6%E1%88%9D-%E1%89%A5%E1%8C%83%E1%88%9D%E1%88%8B/

            regards

            Amanuel Hidrat

          • Hayat Adem

            Nitricc,
            I should check with you if we have the same understanding on what “dumb” means. That is because you are using it on yourself and on others in the same way.

          • Amanuel

            Hi I wonder if this account is some sort of Auto-reply ups designed to reply to civilised conversation in a barbaric way. Claiming that

          • Amanuel

            Claiming that the 300 Erit reans drown in October 2013 were deserters while it was an established fact that several of them were children in fact one was unborn is beyond human.

          • Semere Andom

            Hi Amanuel:

            Nitricc called those 300 people died in search of Ipads and the PFDJ as you said denied them, refused their remains to be brought to Eritrea and here Nitricc all he talks about is Ethiopia. Nitricc and his gang of PFDJ see success as only as a failure of Ethiopia, “we are better than Ethiopia” is the often repeated line and if Ethiopia fails therefore Eritrea succeeds is their thinking. As an Eritrean I want to see Ethiopia and any country in our region succeed, that success can easily be replicated as can be failure.

            PFDJism, Nitriccism, dawitism and some aspects of Hopism must be contained.

            I think TPLF and Ethiopia do not want us to succeed in Eritrea, it is not because they are in Badme, they should stay there, it is not because they bombed inside Eritrea, DMHT territories in 2012, they should do that often, it is not even because they deported Eritreans, they should do that, but they should discriminate between PFDJ spies and hard working Eritreans. But it is their almost deliberate working the fragmentation of the opposition and not facilitating the removal of PFDJ. Yes, they help with the sanction but the longer the PFDJ helms Eritrea, the weaker the nation gets, without a strong united opposition Eritrea can be lurched into civil war. Bad for us, bad for them, but yet they continue to watch while Eritrea, whose independence they supported getting dependent on PFDJ.

            Poor Eritrea, a Mafia inspired government, an amoeba like opposition.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear Sem,
            You see sem, it is not his fault, it is the fault of the adults who encourage him in everything he has to say and give him green light to continue to do what he is doing. Since when did nitricc able to debate on national issue? If he is not unmatured, do you think he will tell us that the 369 Ertireans who are drowned in the high sea were died in search of IPad. But he is quick to criticised the Ethiopian leaders of not reacting on what happened in Lybia against the brutal behaeading of their citizen by Islamic state (IS); which by the way they did, unlike our despot when we lose ours. Since when did these hypocrit will talk and defend the well being of the Eritrean people under the brutal dictator. In their mind talking about the situation of Eritrean people is tantamount to undermining the sovereignty of Eritrea.
            Second, the looting that happened in South Africa, did happen to Eritreans and other African refugees who owned businness there. But as if it doesn’t happen to Eritreans and knowing the Eritrean government didn’t come up to denounce it, they jump to Ethiopia and other African countries to criticise of not acting against what happened to the vandalism and looting in south Africa. You see Sem how odd could we be seen in the eye of international community. Very sad. They love to talk about the tragedy of other countries but are indifferent about our people.
            Regards,
            Amanuel Hidrat

          • Semere Andom

            Nitricc:
            Yes, I admit that you have intimate knowledge about Ethiopia, so let me ask you, how come you have that deep knowledge about a country you hate and no knowledge about the country you so much love, Eritrea.

          • Hayat Adem

            Semere,
            Nitricc can only hate. He can’t love. He has a country that he hates; he has no country that he loves. Therefor, he is not supposed to know much about a country he is indifferent to.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Semere let me ask you this; why are so slow? When did ever say I hate Ethiopia? Do you just make up things as you go? You can’t do that man. Let me ask you this and I will answer your question.
            What is your propose in life? I mean you just here and gone tomorrow? As long as your stomach full nothing matters? is that it?
            Do you have anything you aspire for to be and you will do anything under sun? I am trying to help you understand your self, then, there is a chance you will understand me.

          • Semere Andom

            Nitricc:
            There is nothing I made up about you? All the names you called Ethiopia and Tigray are testaments of your hate. I asked first so u answer then I will tell you my purpose in life, but I can tell you that it is not running to Gojjam every summer and it is not telling lies. so now answer my question Mr. Truth.
            Almost everyone in this forum knows you hate Ethiopia

          • Ted

            Semere, you are fond of calling people liars otherwise asking for quote word by word. Can you show us Nitricc’s words for your accusation ” Almost everyone in this forum knows you hate Ethiopia”. I wouldn’t call you a liar until you show us his words.

          • Semere Andom

            Ted:
            You are kidding me? I cannot quote Nitricc because almost every comment is Ethiopia bashing. Simple. You are new kid in the block he is a veteran, over 10 years.. If I was accusing you of the same I would and should give quote Nitricc, he is a consummate Ethiopia hater especially Tgray, he called them beggars and many other names. So I know what I am talking a about

          • Ted

            Semere, it is your conviction to ask for direct quotes, not mine. New or old show us the Money, Nitricc said “he hate Ethiopia”.
            You did it again
            “Hi Nitricc:You lied again. Can you bring when I said that. And am still waiting why do you know more about Ethiopia than Eritrea, are you from Tigray, half Tigrayan

    • Hope

      Well said ,dearest Amde.Matured and decent comment,indeed.I hope my Cousins Abi,eyob,Ambassador and Ghebre-Kristos follow suit!
      If few more decent Ethiopians join the likes of Fanti,Amde and Kim Hanna,the Awate Univesristy,potentially, could be upgraded to Post Graduiate School Peace Makers,which could in turn lead to the real people-to-people dialogue,thereby leading to the long-awaited peaceful co-existence of the two brotherly nations and people,which has been past due.
      It will only be productive and constructive to do so.
      I just do not get it eventhough it has to do with the dirty politics of the narrow-minded politicians along with their dirty agenda,which wil not materialize under any circumstance.
      Even if the agenda has to do with the reversal of the Eritrean Independence and/or re-claiming of the Aseb Port,let it be done through the consent of the people….and the objective an dthe agenda of the politicians should be to facilate the process by paving the ground for a peaceful Co-existence to be followed by a sort of Economic Integration,which might lead to a sort of Confederation by the will of the stake-holders.
      I do not see the “benefit’ of hateful propaganda–the Tigraionline style….,which has infested the Awate University now-a-days..from both corners,sadly!

    • Dear Amde,
      It is in human nature and even in animal instinct, to stick together and support each other in times of danger, disaster, hopelessness and fear. In such situations, people think beyond their ethnicity, religion and region, and their common humanity becomes the
      guiding force for survival. Even when one’s survival depends on the death of the other, there are many examples when human beings chose to survive or die together. If indeed a destitute refugee who knows nothing about his/her fate in the coming hours, and yet full of religious fanaticism and hate, throws overboard another destitute refugee, then there is no worse inhuman action that one can speak off. God save the countries that would host such criminals. This news is extremely disturbing.

      • Amde

        Hi Horizon,

        Well apparently the crowd reported and pointed out the criminals to the authorities once their boat was rescued. So in that case the decent ones made sure the bad seed did not continue through. Still though, it is shocking such a thing is possible in this day and age from people who are supposed to just be refugees down on their luck and not wild-eyed fanatics.

        I feel bad for the families especially mothers finding out through facebook or some social media. I can’t imagine what that must be like.

        Amde

    • selam

      Dear Amde
      well said please do such things please , we need such collective ideas even in our political discourse. Pls come up with such ideas. Now I understand the tragedies and I hope they end soon. All these tragedies are not responsible for religion but I can 100% say religion has to do some thing with in some circle . that is why I hope the world throw religion to a garbage and take a road to scientific way of living . Humanity does not need religious people and human are capable of securing the future with out no one from outer space. By the way there is no one out side . I have endless hope to see some thing in mars and move there from the so called god believers and leaft you to with your so called god. This god never show up , he will never show up.

      • Amde

        Hi Selam,

        I was talking to someone a while ago who said they spent a good part of their youth arguing against God and religion. He says one day he realized there are a lot of people that need religion in their life for society to function. Whether there is a God or not, at this point I am inclined to agree with him. Is there something outside? Unfortunately we won’t find out until its our time to check out. Funny enough, as a species we are rapidly moving into an era (perhaps within the next 50 years) where being human vs being machine is blurred, and dying from old age will be seen as an anachronism.

        Religious explanation for how the world functions was how we functioned for millenia I would have thought having more and more things understood in a scientific fashion would lead to less and less things assigned to the realm of religious explanation, and hence make religion less relevant. This is exactly what one sees in the secular western countries such as Scandinavia. But not everywhere. Too often, people with the awareness of the scientific (or non-religios) explanation, and in fact many with explicit technical training are the ones that do these things in the name of God. This leads me to think there is something in human nature that requires whatever it is that religion fulfills.

        Amde

        • selam

          Dear Amde
          i can debate all your points but since awate.com would not allow me to do so, I have no choise but to say , yes you have the perfect place to tell me every thing you wanted while I do not . You see the discrimination wide open.
          Now I just wish we have been born like birds . No more no less.

          • Abi

            Selam , Selam
            I think Awate university , Dept or religious studies is the best venue to discuss this topic. To ” inform” is its motto. This is why we are here.
            You have the stage. Please continue…

          • selam

            Dear Abi
            I admire your openness while I differ on the other . To inform while deleting even a link that shows a clear pattern of certain political debate from another regional website . Why do you think that is ? I posted one link from one website and
            They deleted it 10 times may be , why is that ? If awate.com could not handle one article from tigrai on line , i do not believe they are ready for my debate on religion . Please help me why they deleted one link from tigraionline. They may think like I have no clue but I do know their reason is just not right and it will benefit no one . This is not like Huffington Post , neither do it is clear politic.com so lets come to daily dose .

          • selam

            Hi Abdi
            You see I told you they will never ever even tell to not post the link. They just delete, I hope they will never do such thing in the next Eritrea. Such kind of journalism or such kind of behavior are just to the old age of journalism. No post a link from tigraionline no post . Delete it again

        • SenaiErtrawi

          Selam Amde,
          “a lot of people that need religion” –> religious constituency
          “people with the awareness of the scientific do these things in the name of God” –> politicians

          Politicians seek power and will use religion whenever there is a large religious constituency (this happens in any country, even in the west — look at Arkansas or Alabama).

          Your observation that science will make religion less relevant is a reality (rest assured, its is also universal) – human history shows us science shrinking the religious constituency and it will keep doing so.

  • tes

    Dear All,

    I send my condolence to the families who lost their beloved sons during this inhumane and cruel killings. There is no word to express the deep pain and sadness I am experiencing again and again. Shocking and terrifying.

    Let’s stand up and work together so that such fanatists will not have any place to execute their satanic mission.

    Today, the people of Africa is exposed to man-made disasters more than any time in History. To end this, let’s work together.

    The solution is to work together, to work together, together!!!

    tes

  • said

    The so-called Islamic State, which is neither Islamic nor a state, in Syria
    , Iraq and Libya ,

    The Terror Strategist:
    Secret Files Reveal the Structure of Islamic State

    By Christoph Reuter

    An Iraqi officer planned
    Islamic State’s takeover in Syria and SPIEGEL has been given exclusive access
    to his papers. They portray an organization that, while seemingly driven by
    religious fanaticism, is actually coldly calculating.

    Aloof. Polite. Cajoling.Extremely attentive. Restrained. Dishonest. Inscrutable. Malicious. The rebels
    from northern Syria, remembering encounters with him months later, recall completely different facets of the man. But they agree on one thing: “We ever knew exactly who we were sitting across from.”

    Click the following link
    to read the article:
    http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/islamic-state-files-show-structure-of-islamist-terror-group-a-1029274.html

    • Amde

      Hi Said

      That was very educational and terrifying at the same time.

      Thank you for sharing

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Hi said,
      A man who remained incognito (Haji Baki) in the whole operation of the so called Islamic state(IS), except to the few and until his death, was indeed the master mind of the master plan. Spiegel’s investigative report is an eye opening to the broad strategy of IS’s devilish mission or end-timers fanatics. Thank you Said , it is educational.

      Amanuel Hidrat

  • Millenium

    The unfairness of the world:

    How sad it is to be weak; how hopeless it is to be at the receiving end of continuous humiliation. The worst thing about being weak is that it brings out the worst in people. What the ISIS are doing is beyond description yet it can only be explained— make note, I am not saying justified but explained—-by looking at the whole story of what is actually happening in the world.
    One person doing such a gruesome killing is shocking, but a group of people, residing in different parts of the globe and carrying out such a mass murder is just dispiriting.
    The big question however remains: why such cruelty? what kind of desperation must these people have to be carrying out such an act? What political goal can one achieve through such a callous act of savagery? True, these ISIS are the cancers of humanity but when a doctor finds some cancer cells, the doctor does not just wonder loudly how bad these cells are, the doctor removes them; but more importantly the whole society and medical science invests heavily to finding the cause of such a disease to begin with.

    Now, even though it is easier to condemn the bad act as it happens, I think the ones that are truly responsible for what is happening are the ones that invade countries and destroy people’s lives out of dispassionate geopolitical calculations . The big guns are the real culprits.
    ISIS are bad but they are not alien, they are humans and unless the condition for their existence is examined and removed, ISIS may cease to exist in they current form but may mutate to something else that is equally obnoxious.

  • Hayat Adem

    I don’t know why I ended up condemned to respond to you but can you discuss these points with yourself because you sound to be the loneliest man on earth:
    1) Do these innocent run-away immigrants have anything to do with Ethiopia’s policy on Somalia?
    2) Do Somalis (supposedly victim’s of Ethiopia’s policy) have anything to do with devilish acts of beheading and execution?
    3) Do you personally be willing to behead the next Ethiopian christian that happens to be near you by chance if conditions allow you because you understood Ethiopian has wronged the Somalis?

    • Mahmud Saleh

      Dear Hayat
      Well composed reply. Thanks.

  • Ambassador

    I genuinely
    fear for Eritrea. Terrorism is what dictators leave you with once they get
    removed from power. Those people who are pushed to the extreme for lack of any
    political space in Eritrea will crawl out from their hole once the mad man is
    gone to force their agenda through the only way they know- extremism. You
    know what we will do then? We will badly look for another dictator who would
    crash those terrorists mercilessly even when we know that our liberties will go
    with it. Then, there will come a social class who will remember Isaias’s reign
    with nostalgia. They say chaos breeds terrorism. I beg to differ, because
    terrorism comes as in a phase (fad) in a vicious cycle of dictatorship. We had
    a clean start, but thanks to Isaias we are now part of the world that lives in
    this cycle of viciousness.

    • Hayat Adem

      Hi back,
      How well said! No one can give me anything better or sharper than this comment,

    • Abel

      Dear Ambassador
      I agree with your analysis.
      Every pronged dictatorship is followed by anarchy,chaos and terrorism.Change must come from within and the opposition must narrow their differences and forge a united front to guarantee peace and reconciliations after the eventual downfall of PI. We should wise up to avoid such calamities in East Africa specially Eritrea.

      • selam

        Dear Abel here you are again , you come here with loaded falacy for no reason but just lies over lies . You just need your own day to say things in your mind . but I guess you need to understand that these who are slayed has nothing to do or have any knowledge of terrorism. How many people are inside IS in syria , where do they come from ? Yes you know Gounpot 7 are called terrorist in ethiopia , where do they grow up in libiya ? Are not you sad that 30 people of our brothers have perished for nothing. It is the weyane regime who was a tool to send troops in order to make America happy now here you have it. Atleast you people should have sadned and cut off your lies for another day. Have respect .Families are in deep sarrow .lets change this debate for another day.

        • Abel

          Dear Selam,
          Which part of my comment is killing you?that i said the eventual downfall of PI? It has to be.

          • selam

            Dear abel
            this one
            http://www.tigraionline.com/articles/badme-is-tigrai-ethiopia.html , you been commenting over this .now you want another person

          • Abel

            Dear selam
            a- you are wrong and,
            b- I am free to comment anywhere,what is your problem?

          • selam

            Dear Abel
            What is the wrong? You think I have clue what you wrote or what your weyane cronies are saying in tigrai on line. Do expect us just to pass your lies over and over with your shrewd weyane, thinking no n8 we are not going to do that.
            You are free to comment where ever you want and even say what ever you want . No problem about that. Internet trolls do troll so do you. What do you think about the editorial article by tigraionline ?

          • Abel

            Dear Selam,

            Thanks for the green light to troll.

            Tigrayonline and Madote are two extreme ends,they are good at exacerbating tensions and polarizing people. (http://www.madote.com/2015/04/how-tigray-became-dirty-word-in-both.htm
            I also think the Algiers treaty is irrelevant and probably as good as a dead rat.The war was never about a boarder,the current problem has nothing to do with demarcation and none has keen interest in implementing it.In fact It has been used as a perfect weapon to quell any form of resent and genuine demand for reform. Demarcation, normalization and economic integration must go hand in hand for a lasting peace and prosperity of the two countries.

          • selam

            Dear abel
            You come too late . Why do not you then say this long time ago. By the way the Algeries is not voide it is still the law of the land . All other things you said yes I agree , badme has nothing to do with the war , it was just a fox tail.

        • Ted

          Hi Selam, we have a bad start in Eritrea and Sudan with extremism But ISIS is another beast all together. ISIS is the world phenomenon affecting all of us. Most importantly, It is the fight for Muslims couldn’t afford to lose. No one is safe including western countries as long as there are sympathizers and supporters hiding among Muslim people. One can come up with many explanations for so why this groups come to be as enemy of humanity but It has nothing to do Islam or or its preaching. It is the result a broader grievances (western intervention, Shia/Sunni blood feud, evil religious clerks and sociopaths…..).It is shocking to see the a lack of will from the the Gov of Arab countries to eradicate ISIS, Case point, The enthusiastic and determined coordination(including Egypt and Sudan) they make to suppress the Shia influence in Yemen than they show halfhearted commitment in Iraq and Syria to defeat ISIS.Why is that, only Muslims can answer that. ISIS is the crime against all humanity but in reality Muslims from all affiliation are taking the brunt. ISIS is everything against all the good people of Islam followers aspire too and Christians for that matter. There is no excuse whatsoever why Muslims shouldn’t be at the forefront fighting this atrocities.Muslims need to stand up.”The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing” We can not say this people are not Muslims, they are Muslim with their own take on Islam.

          It sickening to see some try politicize this heinous crime.

    • Millenium

      Hi Ambassador:
      So why work to remove him from power if that is what you see in Eritrea after his departure?

      • Hayat Adem

        Hi Millenium,
        I think what he is saying has two parts: 1) the situation, 2) the solution. The situation, (which could have been a clean start and a positive journey) turned to be a curse where we are already paying and we’ll end up paying more price one way or the other. The best solution cannot be anything else but change and replacement of course, but it has to be a well controlled change rather than spontaneous.
        Hayat

        • Millenium

          Hi Hayat:
          Would that be something like “democratic coup?”

          • Hayat Adem

            Hi Millenium,
            You know my views. What I’ve in mind is opposition spearheaded and controlled change.

          • Hope

            Ahh,dearest Gual Aboy Adem,
            –minus TPLF Invasion? Yes?Right Gual aboy Adem?

        • guest

          Dear hayat
          ja , have you asked weyane , AU, UN for that controlled change under the pretexts of such , you want to give this.
          http://www.tigraionline.com/articles/badme-is-tigrai-ethiopia.html

      • Ambassador

        May be because it is better to have your terrorists as lunatic wannabes than as your leaders?!? Don’t you think? Isaias is a terrorist and a leader…dangerous combination.

        • Millenium

          HI Ambassador:
          I do not know and I am confused would be better answers.

          • Ambassador

            Mille(n)nium-

            I’m confused and ignorant because I resisted bashing the “big guns”, right? What a censored mind you have. As far as I know, parroting PFDJ words and pulling phrases from their playbook do not make you original. It is outright boring. Conspiracies are the solaces of the weak. Although I would like to leave you in the comfort of your conspiracy theories, you kindda forced me to burst your bubble; so here I go: had “dispassionate-geopolitical-calculations” been the real culprits, we would’ve had terrorists in all former colonies of the world. Because (hazeni)…… there-isn’t-more- dispassionate-intervention-than-colonialism. See how trivial PFDJ turns its Zombies…

          • Millenium

            Ambassador:
            You are not bursting any bubbles; failing to answer a question should not make you that angry but you seem to have an ego that is easily pricked like that of a bubble; no wonder why you like to talk about a bursting bubble a lot. And thank you for the spelling correction by the way.

          • Ambassador

            Mille(n)nium:

            At least my ego is stroked when you rendered me ignorant. But, yours is hurt when we tell the truth about Isaias. It is like you share Isaias’s mind as if you don’t have one…

          • Ambassador

            Moderator:
            Please stay away from my comments. You are suffocating me. Geez

          • Hope

            Dear Moderator:
            Would you be so kind to show us your gut and courage to shut off the dirty and filthy mouth of this kind Pseudo-intellectual and politcally bankrupt lunatic Cyber Terrorist and his likes?
            Isn’t this the same Ghebrekirkos or his cousin, the way he is acting?
            Come on guys,the Awate University deserves better lecturers and debators.
            i guess they are desperate now as the signs of the times indicate!

    • Hope

      Dear Ambassador,
      I read your comment thrice but could NOT grab its message.
      Are you saying that PIA et al have created terrorism and chaos or their departure will create chaos and terrorism?I understood it the latter way,and if so,then PIA should stay until the wind and the strom fades away then…..
      This is the kind of dishonest debate that I would not like to see here.You sound to me a sugar-coated Ghebrekristos!
      Semna werk?Leave that to Guad Abi!
      Let me express my Honest Hypocrisy here:
      It sounds like you are wishing Eritrea a chaos after the fall of PIA.Guess what though?
      The current PIA’s style of rule,despite its weaknesses,”crimes”,mischieves,etc..,in this chaotic world,might be a “preferred” one until the dust clears away.Who knows that God might be doing His job silently,for the best interest of Eritrea,considering the Mid-east chaos,not top mentuion the Somali style chaos,relatively speaking,eventhough it seems realistically that Eritrea and Eritreans are going through the worst moment in their lives.!

  • sara

    hi michael, where is the salutation, ok, never mind the gatekeeper is dosing.
    you sound like the one who departed for good yesterday and returning to day under a guise of michael, i don’t know why you choose again a religious nickname, wasn’t it better to call your self with a nik which reflects your state of mind and intentions , something like… Daesh of sort’s
    i think the best i could tell you in tigrinya is yr- daaka!!

  • selam

    Dear awatista

    Any news about the 700 ,…
    Dream of Europe or a life of human suffering? Every thing is random. It is a coincidence that I am sitting here and feeling lonly , sadned to my last breath. Are we destained to such ? Can we all imagine for a second , what was the choice ?
    If they had to return failed , had poverty , prison , torture and everything bad we can imagine. Nothing to lose they escaped not hardship but politics unrest, armed conflicts, massive assult, killing parents and raped sisters.They had nothing to lose. Only life. And finally they lost that too. It goes on and on for years.

    • Kim Hanna

      Selam selam,
      .
      You are so right. The suffering of our people, when you think it cannot get any worse, it gets worse. Right now everyone of us who have relations is watching and reading to get more information regarding the well being of our relatives.
      .
      Those Ethiopians that were slaughtered like animals, their suffering came to an end. Each of those souls have individual story to have gone through so much suffering to end like this.
      They were trying, hope against hope, to better their lives to the minimum safety and normalcy, when everything suddenly ended at the hand of these crazies.
      .
      My condolences to those who lost relatives or friends and sympathy to all of us.
      .
      K.H

    • Mizaan1

      You are wrong yet again. The main reason Eritreans escape their country is extreme hardship because of SAWA and other failed and misguided policies. What you listed is in addition to this primary reason.

      • selam

        Dear Mizaan
        I guess you missed my point sir. I respectively disagree on your understanding of my post. Read it again.
        I do not want to use such tragedies for political score . I just expressed my anger and feeling nothing more nothing less.
        I do not want to debate on politics now. This is the day you have to feel sad , not political bickering. Just sit where ever you are.

        • Mizaan1

          Yes, crocodile tears. Your post has hidden political statements. You are trying to deflect attention from the perpetrators and main agents of these tragedies. IA and PFDJ are responsible for making Eritrea uninhabitable thus exposing Eritreans to such tragedies.

          • selam

            Dear Mizaan
            I can not believe you mizaan will accuse me of such , you have zero prove of my deflecting this tragedy nor do you find me supporting IA. You aremaking up things and it is making you a professional lair . Bring the prove that I in any form support PFDJ until that you are labled as a lair. You are blaming for not supoorting your own agenda help from ethiopia .
            the reason I do not like your plan is this one
            http://www.tigraionline.com/articles/badme-is-tigrai-ethiopia.html
            read it you and your co have no shame.

          • Hope

            Dear Mizaan1,
            I thought your name is Mizaan and would have expected you to ” mizanize/balance things?
            Are you dismissing the role of the:
            -The over all negative role the Ethipioan Gov Leadership(TPLF/EPRDF has played so far
            -The role of the No Peace,No War status
            -The role of the unfair and unjustifiable sanctions
            -The role of the CIA as per the wiklieakes
            As much as you agree on the role of the PFDJ,you should not and cannot dismiss the devastating negative roles the above culprits have contributed to our misery,unless you are a new born of today.and/or you are Hayat’s Twin Brother besides being a student of YG!
            Come bro,you sound a Lawyer by Training based on your articulation and thought process.

          • Mizaan1

            Hello Brother Hope, I am not a lawyer. Anyway, I know how selam thinks. Ultimately, we need to look into our eyes. If PFDJ wasn’t there, we would be talking about other things. But recently, I have been meeting people who are more inclined to let PFDJ stay put. YG also makes a lot of good points. He is a little shy of proposing his solution but I know why. We are not ready for it. He is a little ahead of where the sentiment of the average Eritrean. A subject for another day.

          • selam

            Dear mizaan
            where do you master screening another human beings brain? You have never gave any idea on how we can dissolve IA you are just running with hayat blue print talking points . Hayat told you about military bombing by ethiopia with the help of UN, AU and other things by default you are ready to give your sovereignity . I oppose any weyane involvement in our issues , The reason I oppose them is due what you saw in editorial article of TIGRAI ON LINE, where they told us BADME is ethiopian land . Even they warn you , you better forget badme unless we will take more land. Now do I think you are a shredded head with shrwed weyane ESHI GOYTAYE yes you are. To tell you the last I 100% believe that we eritreans can and will dissolve IA. And people like you will remain were they are talking and mumming with weyane.

            Now stop accusing me

          • Hope

            Ok Mezaan1,
            Apology for my over-reaction.
            My point is that our problems are multifaceted and we have to approach them as such in a comprehensive way,not just chasing the PFDJ factor.Why are we missing that aspect?
            Mizaan,you seem to be very “naive” -albeit knowingly,when it comes to the details of the complicated internal and external factors that have made our young Eritrea to have gone through.Please, use that brilliant brain/mind of yours to dissect deeply the intricate factors that have led us into this mess.
            If you believe that things will improve overnight after the PFDJ is gone, you are but NAIVE!
            It will only expedite the evil agenda of the enemies if we dispose the PFDJ without Plan B,if at all we are able to do so!
            But on the same token ,our enemies may not want to expedite the “disposal” of the PFDJ for their own interest :
            a)As PIA is the Champion of Ant-terrorism,so as to keep the ISIS and Al Qaeda away
            b)On top of that, the EPRDF does NOT want any Independent Eritrean Power to take over against their plan and their consent.
            c)Moreover,do not forget that the PFDJ is executing the agenda of the TPLF evil agenda by making Eritrea uninhabitable to /for Eritreans,as you said it!
            It sounds like both PMMA and PIA conspired to dispose and quarantine our productive Youth in the filthy camps of Tigray….a reality we have witnessed –
            Mission accomnplished per the Strategy of PMMZ!
            Am I contradicitng and soudning a Hypocrit?
            Yep,let it,be but,hey, these are the facts that we are dealing with,poor Eritreans!
            We have to revise our Strategy considering all the above facts!
            .
            You see how we are stuck?
            Do not be that much naive.
            Articulate but crooked people like Gherebkirkos and Ambassador,Abi and Eyob included, along with their Cheer Leader Ato T. Kifle….not to mention Hayat et al,are telling you to your face in the very house of Eritrea,here at Awate University,that we:
            -Have fake or NO ID
            -That we are Italian slaves-our presumed ID per their perception
            -That we have been and will be disposed and quarantined
            -That there is no need to deal with a Collapsing Nation and People
            -That there is no such thing called Eritreanism but fake one made up of slavery
            YG seems to be their “behind the scene consultant” along with the likes of Hayat Adem….
            Please google and tell me the exact meaning of Psychological Warfare and review carefully what Eritreans have gone through.
            N.B.
            Please note that I took it forgranted that we are on the same page that the PFDJ’s Messy Policy remains one of the major contributing factors to our mess.
            But do not foregt that eventhough the PFDJ Leadership has been the victim of its own making and mistakes,at the same time,it has been also a prime victim of all the conspiracies and what not;and this is a FACT no one can deny.
            Hence,to blame and point the finger at the PFDJ exclusively for all the mess is but Hypocrisy to say the least,as the evidecne and the Facts are right there…..
            FYI,
            Here are few of the external factors -the tip of the iceberg:
            a)The Illegal Sanctions and its limitless devastating impacts and its serious Collateral Damgaes:
            -Read Mr Getachew Reda’s Report on the status of the Eri women and Teen Girls at one of the isolated Refugees camps in Tigray….besides how the Eri Youth are being treated at the filthy Tigray Camps—and being victims of TB,AIDS,Depression and Suicides,Human Traficking–and not to mention their ID being stolen so as to send the Tigreyans to the West in the name of Eritrean Refugees,
            -Consider the on-going and non-stop Threats and Sanctions by the same EPRDF Gov backed up by its masters and its IGAD Puppets.
            Read this:
            “We do NOT need expensive bullets to paralyse /subjugate Eritrea and Eritreans but to open Refugee Camps in the remote deserts of Tigray and drain the Youth—-with NO War and NO peace Status Policy along with the deadly sanctions”.
            Modified-Courtesy of PMMZ.
            Now ,re-read what Ayte Ghebrekirkos said recently that he is here to dispose Eritrea and Eritreanism and keep quarantining Eritreans…”—–
            b)Political and Military Threats:
            -Consider the Evil Alliance of Sudan-Ethiopia-Dijbouti against Eritrea(Yemen is out and its evil role is history now-“Id shenahit,tsenahit!)
            -The irresponsible bombing of a Civilain Mining Center
            -The deadly Arms Embargo on Eritrea to the extent of not able to buy spare parts for the Tanks and Air Force–so as to paralyse Eritrea’s defense cabaility and its EDF.
            But ,we are still renewing the petitions to paralyse Eritrea by enforcing the Economic Sanction on Eritrea in the name of paralyisng the PFDJ?Did I get it right?
            What is the difference between the evil TPLF,(the bloody enemy of Eritrea and ERITREANS-BASED ON THEIR RHETORIC AND EVIL ACTS), and the Eritrean Opposition then if they have the same agenda and policy?
            What is this?Hypocrisy,desperation.,ETC??—-“ENIE KEMOTKUGN SERDO AYBKEL ALECH AHIYYA”.
            “ANE KAB MOTKUS,SA’ERI AYIBKOALA MERIET”.
            I do not understand this.Can you elaborate the way you have understood it,but not the Hayat or YG way/style though!
            Wetru Natka,
            Hope!

          • sara

            Dear hope,
            i thought with what is happening to us in the mediterranean this day i was hoping we will be in a sober situation, unfortunately it doesn’t look so, then let me share with you how the ethios/tplf view us and our oppos who they have invested a lot but not working their way. ( tes template of categorization) these- are the GOOD the Bad and the POOR type of eritreans who are under continuous assault by tplf of the current ethiobia.
            the GOOD are, those who are eshe getay, apologetic,obedient,agreeable easy to manipulate –
            the Bad are,diaspora eris at large, hateful enemy,obsessed with eritrea by eritreans, who may one day ask the world for genocidal recognition for ona… to sheib and ask reparations
            the poor are, those completely desperate, dependent in every way on the government or diaspora for finances.
            but this being the way they view eris, the tplf’ites fail to recognize all the three groupings share a common pain, since 1952 or even before that and fought a common goal for just resolution
            eritrea’s independence.

  • sara

    Dear Michael,
    please… don’t mix-eritrea and ethiopia in this context, each one of them is in unenviable situation, and if you are real eritrean at least feel good none of this has any semblance to us and don’t expect more than what you read here.

  • selam

    Dear L.T
    Why is it so hard for you to feel some thing human.these young people are not politicians neither soldiers . They were looking a better life. I can not you want to blame awatistas for showing their anger and frustration. I personally don’t support any ethiopian involvement in somalia , nor do I wanted to see somalia a failed state. These young people life has perished for nothing that should pain you. 99% of ethiopians has nothing to do with the things in somalia .

  • Abi

    Hi Philosopher LT
    It is you suffering from brain freez due to bad weather or a lot of vodka. LT, ” Think ! It is not illegal yet.”

  • Dis Donc

    Dear Awate Folks,
    It is really really sad that people have to go thru all this. What a sad weekend.

    A while back I had quit coming to this website but these incidents hit me really hard, in a profound way. The whole weekend I was very unhappy and then I had wanted to say something about it. But my wife is not from that part of the world and hence has no idea about what I was talking about. Then I rememberd this site.

  • Kaddis

    Dear all,

    One statement rightly emphasised by awate team is IS is looking for al shabaab’s alliance. This makes the anti terrorism effort more complicated. There are al shabaab sympathysers in Kenya, Uganda and to some extent in Ethiopia particularly in Somali region. Its unfortunate the west is stuck in only looking for political solution to the Libya crisis. I wish they said the same thing before bombing Libya while creating a failed state. The Ethiopian government have been focused in internal security measures which looks ok at the moment. It needs to step-up to what it takes to secure its citizens at any circumstances. One could be sending out an official plea to get support of capable nations to repatriate its citizens. Including in Yemen.

    My prayers to the victims and their loved ones

    • Hayat Adem

      Hi Kaddis,
      Securing citizens in exile, like you said, is not going to be easy for poor countries like Ethiopia. Americans and Israelis do it better. But the state of paranoia, say Israeli constantly live under is something you wouldn’t want to be part of your life either. But there are things that can be done to minimize: monitoring, information supply and warning systems to prevent, and better status for corrective reactions when such things happen. But again, fr such things to be effective, the citizen-state relationship in countries like Ethiopia is far from ideal.

  • Nitricc

    “Apparently the aim of the gruesome video is to bolster AlShabab of Somalia which has yet to pledge allegiance to IS though it has pledged allegiance to AlQaeda. Observers believe that IS wants to lure AlShabab to its fold.
    AT I think so. When IS said before executing those innocent people
    “the Muslim blood that was shed under the hands of your religion is not cheap”
    I think they were referring to the Ethiopian involvement in Somalia. I am guessing; what else could be?
    The ISIS also said
    “you won’t have safety, even in your dreams, until you embrace Islam.”
    I think it is time for the civilized world to act decisively. If ISIS unites with Al-shebab; I think it will bring Eritrea and Ethiopia to make a peace and deal with ISIS together.
    The big question no one wanted to ask is that there no any criticism or outrage at the supporters of ISIS; the likes of Saudi Arabia; why?

    • sara

      Dear Nitricc
      the saudis are also victims of isis and to see that read the gulf newspapers or watch al jazeera english or al arabiya.
      tv. infact if you want to have more saudi perspective just watch al arabiya/hadaf- tv beamed from dubai and beirut,
      these channels are also available online ,just click the those names /address and it is all there for you to see how isi is viewed in the region.if you want more details and the depth of condemnation watch saudi tv online live on fridays
      salat al jumaa (prayer time) which is 12:15pm same time as in eritrea time.

      • Nitricc

        Hi Sara; so, who is financing this animals? They are well equipped and well organized. I know they become to exist due the US debacle on that region but some countries with big financial help is behind them; who then. I thought I heard Qatar and the Saudi Arabia were supporting ISIS. Where is SJ, Would you please untangle this for us.

        • selam

          Dear Nitricc

          It is quite complex, look at the reaction saudi is playing in yemen and compare it to the IS action all over the place.
          I have recollection the saudi bomb IS in great intensity like what they are doing in yemen.

          • selam

            Correction please
            it reads as i have no recollection

          • Nitricc

            Hi Selam it is interesting to note that ISIS came to exist as the result of US invasion of Iraq. And Al-shebab came to exist as a result of invasion by manna be regional power; Ethiopia.

          • AOsman

            Dear Nitricc,

            Just a quick note on what I think may be the source of their funding:

            – Saudi is not funding them directly, some Saudis citizens may be, but that is not their main source of their income.

            – Saudi and USA may have supported the Syrian rebels, some of the it would have trickled to ISIS as they joined the fight in Syria.

            – ISIS in Syria were controlling strategy locations with oil fields, at times by driving the rebels from other groups, even though they were fighting Assad together (resource driven move it was). They were getting much income through sale of oil (contraband mainly to Turkey)

            – When they captured Mosul, there was a talk that the bank had much gold reserve, can’t remember how much but could go over a billion.

            – When Mosul was captured, the Iraqi army left much of the armament that US provided

            – In one occasion US dropped weapon supply to ISIS (of-course by mistake), meant for the Kurds fighting them.

            ISIS has bewildered many observers as you don’t get much report from the area in their control apart from the propaganda materials they release. I remember an interview by Aljezeera to one German judge who managed to get a guarantee for his safety to visit the area in their control, otherwise you would not dare cross the border.

            Regards
            AOsman

        • sara

          Dear Nitricc
          i know our sj will give you the details, but i guess he is not yet up for the day. until he shows up let me give you something to ponder and wait for the details, i know in such instances waiting is a bit tough, so to give you a hint of who is financing etc this animals, don’t be surprised many believe(and i do) Amerika was the one which gave the SEED money.
          there is a simple and to the point expression to this in arabic ” al saher qam ale saher” i don’t know how to say it in english but this is what we think in the region.

          • sara

            or–
            “alsaher enqeleb alel saher”

          • Dayphi

            ههههه يا سارة. صباح الخير
            You mean ” انقلب السحر علي الساحر؟ ”
            The Proze.com gives some similar proberbs in English; the dictums include, The Plan Backfired, His Evil Is Being Used Against Him, Opposites Attract, and some more. That adage is based on situations when the sorcerer has nome more control on the demons, so the plan he had backgires and works against him/her if she flies on broom….

          • Fanti Ghana

            Good morning to you Dayphi,
            Is that really how you laugh in Arabic?

          • Dayphi

            Yep ! And good morning to you as well.

          • Fanti Ghana

            Thank you Dayphi. I was expecting هاهاهاها
            May be both valid?

          • Dayphi

            Yw Fanti…i’ve never seen anyone before writing the character of lolling that way. I admit yours look more cuter. I’ll try to introduce it, if you don’t mind, in chat rooms of my Arabic speaking circles.

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello Dayphi,
            It is all yours! You can also vary it like so:
            I am giggling = ههههه
            Laughing out loud = هاهاهاها

            Good Luck.

          • Dayphi

            بوركت يا فانتي
            يور غيفن مي ماتش نيدد دوز اوف غيغل اند لاف ان زيس دايز اوف موورنن اند كونتنيوس افنتس اوف ساد ستوريس..فور هههههين اند هاهاهاين ، از زي ساى ات باك هوم ، كم زبلكايو يبقاع- ان اجبشان فرنكيولار ، / ديالكت – وهو كزالك …..( اي. دونت هاف ‘ د ‘ وز دوت اون تاب )

          • Abi

            Hi Fanti
            In Arabic do you laugh right to left as ahahahah

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello Abi,
            It won’t matter. If you laugh long enough both will sound the same anyway. Take out the first ‘a’ and the last ‘h’ and Voila!

          • Abi

            Fanti
            I don’t agree . One is laughing the other is coughing.
            I’m just looking for anything that keeps my mind away from this barbaric act.

    • Dayphi

      Hi Nitric
      There is no a single government, whether Saudi Arabia or other in the Muslim World who recognize or support IS. If you mean individual supporters and sympathizers, i think you are right they have supporters in Saudia, America, Europe, Australia, and allover the world. Their infamous execusioner is from London, UK.

    • Hayat Adem

      Nitricc,
      Don’t forget that they are also controlling lands, people and resources.

  • sara

    Dear all
    the lampedusa tragedy was was unfortunately politicised by some of us eritreans/ethiopians, and that has left its ugly marks on our thinkings of each other – eris or ethios. this time we have to be above all that wickedness and stand together in solidarity.
    we should all condemn the barbaric acts of Daesh and mourn those unfortunate deaths of all those refugees regardless of their nationality.

  • Haile WM

    Dear all,

    it has being a very sad weekend. The ISIS killing innocent people, the tragedy in the Mediterranean where an eritrean survivor said there were over 700 migrants in the boat before it capsized.

    Meanwhile people smugglers are eating flesh and bones mercilessly, piling money over the dead body of their kin and kith, they need to be stopped.

    here is an article appeared on italian media about the two bosses, one eritrean and one ethiopian, who are responsible of organizing the overcrowded migrant boats from Tripoli Libia . One of them is even heard laughing on a telephone conversation, trying to justify his criminal acts by saying something like “They say that I always put too many on the boats … but they are the ones who want to leave immediately”

    http://palermo.repubblica.it/cronaca/2015/04/20/news/il_boss_della_tratta_ride_al_telefono_ne_faccio_salire_sempre_troppi_sui_barconi_-112358110/?ref=HREA-1

    • sara

      Dear ato Haile,
      yes it is awful, and i don’t know what to add to what you said, the paper is in italian and couldn’t tell any except guess reading that dubai,uae, connection etc, does t tell there were eritreans in the boat, could you confirm there are eritrean deaths.I hope not!

  • selam

    Adding to the sad news
    over 650 are believed to be dead on the way to Europe.The Eritrean websites , ethiopian websites should really play their role on telling people that Europe is not like heaven , it is not worth of throwing your life to sharks , it is not the right way to do.

    Do you all think we have also some blame to take by encouraging our relatives and brothers to cross the sea.

  • selam

    Dear All

    Very sad day, really sad. Nothing to add. My deepest condolences to the family of these perished for nothing but for being Christians . Very sad , we need a new educational revolution.

    • sara

      Dear selam,
      i really see your feeling, and since both of us are now at the forum while athers are still in bed having a night mare of this tragic story, i want to share with you if we could take the intiative and propose to awate.com to observe a 3 days mouring in soldarity with the victms family and the ethiopian people in this trying times. if you agree, i want you
      to be the one who petition awate ( bro sj and sal). i am sure they know to do/say better than us all forumers..
      we stand with the victims families and ethiopian brothers/sisters in this difficult times.

      • selam

        Dear sara
        Ya take my vote, they are my brothers and I can feel the pain and the last moment , it is really not too much to ask.You know sara we are also waiting the news from the malta and italian shores.

        • sara

          Dear selam,
          oh.. god forbid, if that happens again more mourning , i hope this time no one of us is there, of course i do not wish for others too, but we being a small nation such tragedies really hurt many in the country, i hope and pray nothing of that to hear.

  • sara

    Dear all- this is the worst awful news i heard recently, what is this atrocities against poor, destitute refugees who were in libya on their way to a safe places in europe . it is unbelievable cruelty in the name of religion by this criminals gangs Daesh.
    my condolences to the victims families and all ethiopian people.

  • Dear all,
    Here is the chance for
    Christians and Muslims to stand together against darkness, backwardness, and
    reemergence of a catastrophic religious war. Up to now, mainly Muslims have
    been the victims of these barbarians, which shows that ISIS is the enemy of
    humanity as a whole, and not a religious movement. It is not the result of Christian–Islam
    contradictions, but the product of sick and criminal minds, bent to destroy the
    whole world. Therefore, this should be the time for a new beginning, when Christians
    and Muslims stand together, for the first time in their history, on the same
    side of the battlefront against a common enemy called ISIS.

  • Mahmud Saleh

    Salam AT
    Thank you for giving this news the interest it deserves. It is sad to see these innocent people are slaughtered like animals. And yes, it’s a close call for us Eritreans too. My condolences go to the Ethiopian people. ISIS is dark, ISIS is death; ISIS is savage; ISIS represents man’s worst manifestation. ISIS should not win this. Ethiopians and all peace loving people should understand that any societal crack such acts of savagery creates is a victory for ISIS. ISIS is against humanity; it has been slaughtering innocent people since its inception; most of its victims have been Muslims who it thinks or label are not “good enough Muslims” including Muslims who follow the same Islamic school brand that it says is enforcing.
    At any rate: Those slaughtered persons are part of us; they are innocent human souls who had no crime deserving the lightest punishment let alone murdering them in cold blood. They found themselves in hostile territory while trying to reach the destination they thought would change their lives and the lives of those they cared for.
    May God bless their souls.

    • saay7

      Mahmuday:

      Co-sign to everything you said.

      The equally odious Al-Shabab, which had already pledged allegiance to Al-Qaeda, is having internal problems with some wanting to pledge allegiance to ISIS (which is even more gruesome that Al-Qaida), with others wanting to focus from internalist jihadism to local jihad, with its leaders hunted and killed, and others surrendering to Somalia government, it is a rump counting its days to extinction.

      A similar inglorious fate awaits the murderous ISIS because with every barbaric act, they increase the list of their enemies and all they are able to attract is nihilists and lost souls with apocalyptic visions.

      saay

      • Semere Andom

        Hi Sal:
        Eventually y ISIS will be destroyed, but they leave havoc in its wake, then history will repeat itself. Although ISIS is one of its kin in modern history, it is not alone in the history of man and the cycle will go on.
        Solution is for God to intervene with his famous flood by asking Noah to build an arch for the righteous, but again he promised he will not unleash worldwide flood.

        • saay7

          Hi Semere:

          I believe Amde has already posted the link to a much-discussed article in The Atlantic about the theological emphasis. (The controversial part of The Atlantic is that it appeared to make ISIS views as if it’s mainstream Islam when it is the fringe of the fringe of the fringe. Of the fringe.)

          Theologically, the Christian analogy of ISIS would be the “End Times” faction: those who are constantly seeing for signs of the prophecies for the end of times. The difference being while the Christian End Times are peacefully and eagerly awaited for rapture, the goons at ISIS want to accelerate the process violently so that the Messiah (Jesus) can come and have an epic battle with the anti-Christ and defeat him…

          I sense you know all this…it was triggered when you mentioned Noah. The end of ISIS will come from the elimination of its leaders and a messy land war. What The Atlantic article rightly points out is that an Islamic State that controls no land (State) loses its appeal instantly. A fine Khelifa you make without land. Without the land, IS is just Alqaeda.

          saay

          • Abi

            Hi Saay
            My favorite bumper sticker reads
            “God, please save us from your followers ”
            There is nothing worse than a fantastic in every aspect.

          • Dis Donc

            fanatic?

          • Abi

            Please read fantastic as fanatic. I’m not thinking well. Sad times.

  • Dayphi

    Sallam all.
    This is another piece in the chain of the barbaric acts committed by IS. The underground hands are working hard to destabilize Ethiopia by creating Muslim-Christian wars so Ethiopia would be destroyed in the same way Libyans are killing each other. That way the enemies feel the ecstacy of the prophecy fulfilment as in Ezekiel 30: 5-7 that connects the fate of Ethiopia with that of Libya. I mentioned similar thing earlier in my comment to brother Najm Selam, and in connection with the so called documentary film on youtube called THE ARRIVALS. My suggestion is to go back to those ” prophecies ” study them with the help of church fathers and imams to tacle those so called prophecies of destructions and give better and hollier life saving interpretations. I know we all Muslims and Christians have great reverance to scriptures. But we shouldnt be complacents or pessimists while our people and countries are dessimated and burned just because it is ” foretold ” in Ezekiel prophecy and the prediction shall be fulfilled. There could be other interpretation for the words Libya, Ethiopia, Dajjal, Mahdi, etc….in those ” prophecies “, IF they are true prophecies.

    • dawit

      ‘The Chickens Come Home to Roost’. Ethiopian leaders have been exploiting the “Christian Island” to oppress the Ethiopian minority population and destroy their neighbors. Al Shebab was direct creation of Ethiopian involvement in Somalia’s internal affairs, and indirectly to destroy the Eritrean secular government. Ethiopia gained few military and economic assistance from the West, claiming that they are fighting “Islamic extremists supported by Eritrea”. They were able to use the AU and UN to bring a devastating Military and Economic sanction against Eritrea. It is sad now poor ordinary Ethiopians and Eritrean refugees are paying for the mistakes of selfish and ignorant Ethiopian leaders. Biblical or Quran’s prophesies has nothing to do with what is happening. I hope PIA will lead the region to safe harbor sailing through the political minefields of our region..

      • Shum

        Dawit,

        You’re a clown. Innocent blood has been shed and yet you found a way to politicize it. Worse, you found a shameless plug for DIA. I once asked Saay what he saw in you. I’m still shaking my head asking it. It’s beyond me why some people can’t see innocent people dying and being massacred for what they are. We were treated to Eyob’s nonsense contorting himself and moral values into an obscene pretzel trying to explain Ona away. Now we have a DIA sycophant who can’t seem reach skin deep into his humanity to see this for what it is. I hope someone can save our region from itself.

        • Saleh Johar

          Shum,
          And that is why I am terrified at the idea of attempting to reform the PFDJ sycophants. They are just not reformable at all. I would have liked to make the comparison you mentioned, but the incident is so sad to be stretched some more.

        • dawit

          Shum, Semere, Johar et al.

          Once Shum, you asked me a question and I gave you an
          extensive reply, but then you disappeared, and for whatever reason out of the
          blue, you responded to my comment to a comment by someone suggesting on some
          silly idea of Biblical or Quran prophesies to explain the crime committed by
          ISIS on innocent ‘Ethiopians’ and ‘Eritreans’ in Libya. Then you poured your
          crocodile tears. To tell you the truth, I would no responded in kind to your
          insults and comments. You three are the counterparts of ISIS for Eritrea,
          advocating chaos pretending for the welfare of Eritreans by introducing anarchy
          like what your fellow jihadists did in Libya and Syria. If your dream had been
          realized, Eritrea would have been the next candidate of the so called ‘Arab
          Spring’ chaotic changes in the region, long before Libya, Yemen or Syria. But
          to your disappointment the wise Eritrean people never followed your disastrous
          path of ‘Weeding’ or ‘demolishing’ PFDJ or PIA. You think you know better for
          Eritrean people interest just because you can express in English or Arabic your
          jumbo mumbo democracy, free speech etc, from 10,000 miles away your safe exile
          homes. Believe me the Eritrean people are far sighted in their environment than
          people like you who could not see beyond your nose. I wonder why some decent
          people in this forum complained their fellow forumers use foul languages in
          addressing others, when the owners lead such behavior on whom they disagree.
          Yes Eritreans still sing ‘Znegese Ngusna’! Long live PIA and Eritrea!

    • Amde

      Selam Dayphi

      Your note reminded me of this article about ISIS http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2015/02/what-isis-really-wants/384980/

      Still controversial. But essentially it states Isis is doing what it does for very considered theological reasons. Most of us live secular lives and this kind of apocalytic thought sounds strange and even crazy to us.

      Awate’s editors are right to point out this is a deliberate political act.

      My condolences to the families of those killed and those lost at sea.

      Amde