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If You Are an Eritrean…

The following was written on July 18, 2013 by “Haile” at awate forum in response to “Asmara”, an archetypal government supporter. It is being posted here because of your requests. It is one of the greatest take downs of the PFDJ talking points. The PFDJ defenders have somehow convinced themselves that they are the only ones who have family members in Eritrea that they talk to. They have convinced themselves that we, in the opposition, don’t have family members that we talk to every day. Family members who tell us what is going. They have convinced themselves (or they would like to fool themselves) that everyone who visits Eritrea is a supporter of the government. What makes Haile’s takedown so effective is because it is fact-based, spontaneous, and written from the perspective of the ordinary Eritrean who has been muzzled.  

Selam Asmara,

Your disapproval of the nature of the current opposition shouldn’t be reason enough for you to support a regime that is dead beat and has no chance in hell of making it out alive.

The majority of Eritreans are opposition to the regime and their grievances as well as fundamental interests are not reflected by the current vocal opposition organizations. So, try to deal with the Eritrean situation vis-a-vis the dismal regime. You are not obliged to analyze matters through the lens of your judgement as regards the integrity and character of the groups you have issues with.

The Ethiopia Eritrea border issue is legally settled and all there is to it is for Ethiopia to leave occupied territories for resumption of normal relationship.

The Eritrean regime will not survive very long after that as it is rejected beyond redemption by Eritreans and the world.

If you are an Eritrean farmer commenting from the fields around Hazemo, I need to remind you that there is a proclamation prohibiting you from selling your produce in the market.

If you are an Eritrean business entrepreneur commenting from the side cafes of Asmara, I need to remind you that there is a proclamation prohibiting you from possessing foreign currency, obtaining business license or importing and exporting goods.

If you are an Eritrean academic commenting from one of the Technical collages, you need to be aware that the government has removed your ability to work in collaboration with other Universities around the world independently.

If you are an Eritrean high school student commenting from your school library in Asmara, I need to remind you that you shouldn’t think of your university courses because you will be told what to study for a qualification that has no international recognition.

If you are an Eritrean Fisher man commenting from the coastal regions of Eritrea, I need to remind you that there is a proclamation that requires you to hand over your catch to the government and not attempt to sell it in the market.

If you are a driver in Eritrea, you need to be reminded that you can only purchase fuel from contraband vendors.

If you are a patient in Eritrea and commenting from a hospital, be aware that your family may be required to purchase contraband fuel for the hospital generator to perform your urgently needed operations.

If you are a family person in Eritrea, be aware that you have safe place to store a government issued gun in your home, else the kids may shoot each other thinking it is safe to do.

If you are a medical doctor in Eritrea, make sure you know that you have wardia (night patrol) duty armed with Kalashnikov. So organize your research times.

If you are national service discharge in Eritrea, make sure to report to your local zoba mimhdar, to pick up a gun and do duties of guarding banks and other government offices.

If you are a young Eritrean thinking of traveling abroad, there is a proclamation prohibiting you from doing so. Try your luck…you know where.

Ration food, intermittent electricity, little or no water supply, no right to seek employment or be self employed….

Refugee camps, human trafficking, high seas tragedy. You name it.

Asmara, you think the regime will be fixed and things will be better. I beg to differ.

Regards

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  • Mike

    Look, i neither like the PFDJ or the opposition.. But i prefer the PFDJ, because i know that i have a president that was and still is willing to fight and die for Eritrea.

    With that said, i also respect the ELF, because they were willing to do the same.

    I really dont wish to see the PFDJ holding the power forever, but right now i just dont see a better alternative. The country is developing. You see roads,houses, new buses,taxis, companies and infrastructure being build. On the other hand people are being locked up without a trial.

    But chosing between the PFDJ and the opposition is like choosing between overcooked rice and poo…at least you can eat the rice, even though i tastes horrible.

    The day i see a better alternative (and i mean BETTER, consisting of TRUE ERITREANS loyal to their country, not the ethiopian based stupid, ignorant idiots betraying their country) is the day i switch side!

    • http://Awate.com Ali

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    • Mm

      You see there shouldn’t be any reason to support any oppression. Have you not read the article, It doesn’t talk about why you should support the opposition, it explains why you shouldn’t cheer on the regime. Sure you may see development, but at what cost? Eritrean youth without pay. The need for development is never urgent, you see what’s urgent is freedom. The rights of the Eritrean people to be protected against every and all oppression. You are probably somewhere where you are employed and have plenty to eat and drink and commenting on this post without a second thought of how much the session on the internet session is costing you. The youth of Eritrea unfortunately aren’t entitled to this freedom you’ve gained outside Eritrea. They are being forced to serve indefinite national service to build the roads and houses you’re boasting about, without a proper pay. This my friend is a legal slavery. The goals and dreams of these kids is stolen by the same government you support. What Eritrean, no matter how well he’s living supports a government that steals the development of Eritrea’s youth? Surely he/she must be an enemy of Eritrea disguised as eritrean. We need to come together as Eritreans without choosing sided, for what is right and noble. It’s time to come together to secure the freedom of the Eritrean people. Surely we don’t need another Mengistu Hailemariam (remember he too was a revolutionary for the freedom of ethiopia under Hailesilassie). We need absolute and complete freedom and now. To be honest I don’t support the opposition group as I don’t understand why any eritrean would be joining forced with ethiopia for a so called freedom of Eritrea. What I do know is we need Eritreans who are against any oppression and any ulterior agendas.

  • YAY

    ዝኸበርካ ሃይለ፡ ብታህዋኽ ወይ ብናይ ቋንቋ ጸገም ከይተረዳዳእና ከይንሓልፍ

    “I agree on the notion that blaming Ghedli or tegadelti for the mess is neither responsible nor prudent. But it is far from the truth to declare that the colossal damage that has been wrought on the State by the governing regime is to do, solely, with the no-war-no-peace state of situation. The regime has done far too much damage by amplifying the ramifications of the war and denying Eritreans at home and the Diaspora from contributing in any meaningful way other than its greed. It is not fair to tell your friend that he didn’t contribute, when in fact, he is not in a position to do so due to the simple fact that the regime has literally cordoned off the nation and is holding it in a hostage like lock-down state. Please, let’s be fair here.”
    ናብ ትግርኛ ኪትርጎም እንከሎ

    “እዚ ዘሎ ግዕዘይ ናብ ገድሊ ወይ ተጋደልቲ ምልጋብ ሓላፍነታዊ ወይ ጕርሕነት ከም ዘይኮነ እሰማምዓሉ እየ። ይኹንምበር፡ እዚ ገዛኢ ስርዓት ኣብ ልዕሊ እቲ ክዋነት ዘስዓቦ ኣዝዩግዙፍ ጕድኣት ሳዕቤን ናይቲ ኣይሰላም ኣይኵናት ኵነታት ጥራይ እዩ ብሂልካ ምእዋጅ ግን ካብ ሓቂ ዝረሓቀ እዩ። እቲ ስርዓት ንሳዕቤናት ናይቲ ኵናት ብምግናን ወ ኣብ ውሽጢ ኮነ ደገ ንዘለዉ ኤርትራውያን ስስዕትኡ ገዲፉ ትርጉም ብዘለዎ መንገዲ እጃሞም ንከየበርክቱ ብምኽልካሉ እውን ኣዝዩ ብዙሕ ጕድኣት ጌሩ እዩ። እቲ ስርዓት ነታ ሃገር ቃልንቃሉ ብገመድ ከርዲኑ ወይ መርሖ ማዕጾ ብመሸገጥ ከምዝለኮተ ሰብ ዓጊቱ ንሃገር ጅሆ ስለዝሓዞ ከበርክት ዘክእሎ ቦታ በቲ ስርዓት ብርግጽ ኣብ ዝተከልከለሉ ግዜ ንዓርክኻ ኣየበርከትካን ክትብህሎ ትኽክል ኣይኮነን ። ኣብዚኣስ በጃኻ ትኽክለኛታት ንዅን። ”

    መልሰይ ደንጕዩ ብምምጽኡ ኣይትሓዘለይ።
    ኣነ “ህግደፍ ዝተኸሎ መንግስቲ ኤርትራ ብዝተማልአ ዓቐን ህዝባዊ መልክዕ ዘይሓዘሉ ቀንዲ ምኽንያት፡ ድሕሪ 1998 ኣብ ኵናት ወይ ሓውሲኵናት ተጸሚዱ ስለዘሎ (ከምቲ ናይ ህግሓኤ ኣብ ግዜ ገድሊ) ንወተሃደራዊ ጉዳያት ቀዳምነት ስለዝሃቦ ደኣምበር ደሞክራስያዊ ወይ ቅዋማዊ መንግስቲ ኪምስርት ስልዘይደለየ እይነበረን ንዓይ ከም ዝርኣየኒ።” ስለዝበሀልኩ እዩ ዝመስል እስኻ

    “እዚ ገዛኢ ስርዓት ኣብ ልዕሊ እቲ ክዋነት ዘስዓቦ ኣዝዩግዙፍ ጕድኣት ሳዕቤን ናይቲ ኣይሰላም ኣይኵናት ኵነታት ጥራይ እዩ ብሂልካ ምእዋጅ ግን ካብ ሓቂ ዝረሓቀ እዩ።” ትብህል። መንዩ ሳዕቤን ናይቲ ኣይሰላም ኣይኵናት ኵነታት ጥራይ እዩ ብሂሉ ካብ ሓቂ ዝረሓቀ ኣዋጅ ኣዊጁ፧

    “ቀንዲ ምኽንያት” ማለት እኮ ሓደ ጥራይ እዩ እቲ ምኽንያት ማለት ኣይኮነን። ካልኦት ምኽንያታት ከም ዘለዉ እቲ ናይ ኣይሰላም ኣይኵናት ኵነታት ግን ንብዙሕ ካልኦት ጉዳያት ዝትንክፍ ወይ ዝጸልው ዓብላሊ ተራ ከምዘለዎ ንምምልካት ድኣምበር እሱ ጥራይዩ እቲ ምኽንያት ንምብሃል ኣይኮነን።
    ኣነ ብዙሕ ምኽንያታት ኣሎ ግን ኵነታት ኣይኵናት ኣይሰላም ቀንዲ ምኽንያት እዩ ክብህል እንከለኹ እስኻ ድማ ሓደ ጥራይ ኣይኮነን ብዙሕ እዩ እቲ ምኽንያታት ኢኻ ትብህል ዘሎኻ። ኣነ እቲ ቀንዲ ምኽንያት ከነጽር እንከለኹ እስኻ ግን ብድፉኑ ሓሊፍካዮ። በዚ ምኽንያት ብህለተይ ካብ ሓቂ ዝረሓቐ ኣይኮነን።

    ቀጺልና ተቃወምቲ ሃገራዊ ወይ ሓርብአኛዊ ግቡኣት ኪፍጽሙ ኣለዎምዶ የብሎምን ንመርምር። ክዋነት ኤርትራ ኪብሃል እንከሎ፡ ብጠቅላላኡ ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ብሓደ ኪትከል፡ ኪመሓየሽ ወይ ኪቕየር ዝኽእል ናይ ሃገር መንግስቲ ኣብ መሬቱ ተጠርኒፉ ድሕነቱ ወ ነጻነቱ ንምክልኻል ወ ጽቡቅ ናብራኡ ንምርግጋጽ ንርእሱ ከም አሓት ወ አሕዋት ዘመሓዳድር ናጻ ማሕበር ማለት እዩ። ተቃወምቲ ንገለ መምርሕታት ወ ተግባራት ምምሕዳር ህግደፍ ይጽልኡ ኣይጽልኡ ብዘየገድስ ኣባላት ናይዚ ክዋነት ወይ ሕብረት እዮም። ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ናይ ህግደፍ ህዝቢ ጥራይ ኣይኮነን፡ መሬት ኤርትራ ናይ ህግደፍ መሬት ጥራይ ኣይኮነን፡ ናጻነት ኤርትራ ምሕላው ናይ ህግደፍ ሓላፍነት ጥራይ ኣይኮነን፡ ሽግራት ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ምቅላል ወይ ምውጋድ ናይ ህግደፍ ግዴታ ጥራይ ኣይኮነን፡ መሰል ልዑላውነት ኤርትራ ኣብ ውሽጢ ፍሉጥ ዶባታ ምርግጋጽ ናይ ህግደፍ ጉዳይ ጥራይ ኣይኮነን፡ ንሰራዊት ኤርትራ ምህናጽን ምድልዳልን ናይ ህግደፍ ግደ ጥራይ ኣይኮነን፡ ኤኮኖሚ ወ ናብራ ህዝቢ ምምሕያሽ ናይ ህግደፍ ስራሕ ጥራይ ኣይኮነን፡ ንህገራዊ ወ ህዝባዊ ጉዳያት መካየዲ በብክእለትካ ግብሪ ምኽፋል ናይ ህግደፍ ግዴታ ጥራይ ኣይኮነን። ግቡእ ተቃወምቲ ኤርትራውያን እውን እዩ።

    ተቃወምቲ ይኹኑ ደገፍቲ ህግደፍ ንኩሉ ሃገራዊ ግቡኣቶም እናፈጸሙ እዮም ንመምርሒታት ወይ ተግባራት ህግደፍ ነቂፎም ብዝበለጸ መምርሒታት ወ ተግባራት ክትክኡዎ ዝግብኦም። ነቲ ብህግደፍ ተተኺሉ ዘሎ መንግስቲ ኤርትራ ኪሃንጽዎ፡ ከመሓይሽዎ፡ እናኾስኮሱ ወ እናተኸናኸኑ ከማዕብሉዎ ደኣዩ ዝሓይሽ እምበር ምስ ጸላእቱ ወይ ሓንኰልቱ ተሓባቢሮም ከዕንዉዎ ኣይኮነን። ንህግደፍ ዝቃወም ኵሉ ንተቃውሞኡ ኣብ ውሽጢ ክልል ጕዳያት ክዋነት ኤርትራ ኣቐሚጡ እዩ ኪንቀሳቐስ ዝግብኦ። ንህግደፍ ካብ ስልጣን መንግስቲ ኤርትራ ከተውርድ ክትብል ነቲ ክዋነት ኤርትራ ከተፍርሶ ንሓደነት ኮነ ንሃገርነት ኤርትራ ኣዕናዊ እዩ። ቀንዲ ዕላማ ተቃወምቲ ብሰላማዊ ወይ ሕጋዊ ኣገባባት ኣብ ስልጣን ምምጻእ ድኣምበር ንህግደፍ ምዕናው ኣይኮነን።

    “እቲ ስርዓት ነታ ሃገር ቃልንቃሉ ብገመድ ከርዲኑ ወይ መርሖ ማዕጾ ብመሸገጥ ከምዝለኮተ ሰብ ዓጊቱ ንሃገር ጅሆ ስለዝሓዞ ከበርክት ዘክእሎ ቦታ በቲ ስርዓት ብርግጽ ኣብ ዝተከልከለሉ ግዜ ንዓርክኻ ኣየበርከትካን ክትብህሎ ትኽክል ኣይኮነን ።” ዝብሀልካዮ ግን ብስምዒታት ዝተመልአ ኣበሃህላ እዩ ዝመስል። ንኣብነት፡ መንግስቲ ኤርትራ ኣብ ግብሪ ምኽፋል፡ ሃገራዊ ኣገልግሎት ምግባር፡ ዝተጸንዐ ሓዲሽ ንድፊ ሓሳባት ምቅራብ፡ ሓገዝ ንስድራ ስዉኣትን ውጹዓትን ምሃብ፡ ናይ ንዋት ይኹን ገንዘብ ወፈያታት ፡ ወዘተ ብምግባር ክትሳተፍ ኣይክልክልን እዩ። ከምዚ ዓይነት ተሳታፍነት ድማ ንህዝቢ ንሃገር ዝጥቅም እምበር ብፍላይ ንህግደፍ ጥራይ ስስዕቱ ዘርዊ ኣይኮነን። ስለዚ ናይ ምስታፍ ማዕጾታት ኵሉ ዝተከርደን ወይ ዝተሽገጠ ኣይኮነን፡ ክፉትን ግፍቱንን ማዕጾታት ከምዘሎ ዘይግንዘብ ዘረባ ኣይትዛረብ።

    ካብቲ መንግስቲ ዝደልዮ ወ ዝኣመሞ ሕግታትን መምርሒታትን ወጻኢ ፡እሞ ድማ ኣብ እዋን ህጹጽ ኵነታት፡ ናይ ባዕልና ተበግሶ ንከይንወስድ ከልኪሉና እንተኾይኑ እቲ ዘረባ፡ ተቃወምቲ ምስቲ ገዛኢ ሰልፊ ተረዳዲኦም መዝነት ተዋሂቡዎም ኣብ ስልጣን መንግስቲ ተሳተፍቲ ኣብ ዘይኮኑሉ ግዜ ዓቕሞም ድሩት ከምዚኸውን፡ ከም ዜጋታት ድማ ብመምርሒታት ናይቲ ስልጣን ሒዙ ዘሎ ሰልፊ ቅዩዳት ምዃኖም ምርሳዕ ይመስለኒ። ተቃወምቲ፡ ለውጢ ንኪመጽእ ክድርኹ ዕላማናዩ ብሂሎም እንተሒዞሞ ድማ፡ ብመንፈስ ገድልን ተጋደልትን፡ ኣብ ውሽጢ ህዝቦምን ሃገሮምን (ማለት፡ተሃዊኾም ናብ ኵናት ሓድሕድ ከይኣተዉ ወይ ሓይልታት ባዕዲ ናብ ኤርትራ ኣትዮም ነቲ ብህግደፍ ዝተተኽለ መንግስቲ ከዕንዉሎም ከይዓደሙ፡ኣብ ክልል ክዋነት ኤርትራ) ኮይኖም፡ ንጽቡቕ ለውጢ ኪቃለሱ ኣድላይነት ይህልዎ። ትኽክል ምዃን ማለት ከምዚ እዩ ይመስለኒ።

    • haile

      ዝኸበርካ YAY –

      ብሓቂ እቲ ዝበሃልካዮ (ማለት “ሓደ ካብ ቀንዲ ምኽንያት”) ዝብል ክነሱ፡ ኣነ ብናይ ውልቀይ ግምት (assumptions) ኣንፈት ውሽጣዊ ሕሳባት ናይ መግለጺኻ ከም ዝቐየርኩዎ ኣብሪህካለይ ኢኻ። ኣብዚ ተረዳዲእና ኣሎና። ካብኡ ስዒቡ ግን እቶም ዝመደርካዮም ትንታነ ስነ-ሞጎት “ቃልሲ ኣብ ትሕቲ ቀይዲ ናይ ዓማጺ” (Struggle by obedience) እዩ ዘስምዕ። ኣብዚ እዋን፡ እቲ ስርዓት ብሰንኪ ዘዋህለሎ ግዕዘይ ቁጠባውን ፊናንሳውን ምሕደራ፡ ገዛእ ርእሱ ከላቕቕሉ ኣብዘይክእለሉ ታኼላ ኤኮኖሚኣዊ፡ ማሕበራውን፡ ፖለቲካውን ብርሰት ተሸሚሙ ኣሎ። ብተነጽሎ ማሕበረሰብ ዓለምን፡ ብቐጻሊ ናብ ሃገር ዘቕነዔ አገዳ እናተለብለበ ክነሱ፡ ምእንቲ ድሕነት ሃገርን መጻእቲ ወለዶን ክብል ስልጣን ንህዝቢ ከየረክብ ድማ ሓንጊዱና እኖሆ።

      ዝኸበርካ YAY –

      እቶም ተራሒዮም ኣለዉ ዝበልካዮም ኣንፈታት ኣበርክቶ ኣብ ምህናጽ ሃገር፡ ኣብ ወፍሪ፡ ኣስግሮት-ተክኖሎጂ፡ ሃገራዊ ትሕዝቶ ሸርፊ ናይ ወጻኢ ምድላብ፡ ደቂ ሃገር ካብ ውሽጢ ይኹን ደገ ኣብ ዝኾነ ይኹን ዓውዲ ቁጠባ፡ ብዘይ ዝኾነ ይኹን ማሕለኻ፡ ምህጋር፡ ፍትሓዊ ኣድልዎን ከምኡ ዝኣመሰሉን ዝዓለሙ ዘይኮኑስ፡ ነቲ ጥምዙሕ ኣካይዳን ብልሹው ምሕደራ ናይቲ ስርዓት ዝድጉሙ ክፍሊታት ጥራይ እዮመ። ንጉዳይ ስድራቤት ስውኣት ዝምልከት፡ ኣብ ውሽጡ ክዕመም ዝኽእል ገዚፍ ኣንፈታት ወፍርን ምዕባለን ኣሎ። እዚ ስርዓት እዚ ግን ኣብ ላግጽን፡ ኣሽካዕላልን ተጸሚዱ፡ ሓንሳብ ብዘይካይ ካልእ ተሓላቂ የሎን፡ ግልብጥ ክብል ድማ ናተይ ሓላፍነት ጥራይ ድዩ፡ እናበለ፡ ብኽቱር ምክልባት፡ ንደቂ ሃገር ዝፈትውዎ ሃገሮምን ህዝቦምን ገዲፎም ክኹብልሉ፡ ነቶም ዝተረፉ ድማ ግዳይ ነውራም ኣበራቱን ስስዕትኡን ገይሩ፣ ብድሕረይ ሳዕሪ…ከም ዝበለት ኣድጊ ንሃገር ኣብ ሓመድ የንከባልላ ኣሎ።

      ኣብዚ እዋን እዚ እቲ ስርዓት መጠነ-ሸርፊ ከመዓራርየሉ ኣብ ዘይክእለሉ፡ ታኼላ ኣትዩ ይርከብ። ማላዊ ውህለላ ናይታ ሃገር (Sovereign Reserves) ብሓደገኛ መልክዑ ባይታ ዘቢጡ፡ ጉዳይ ሸርፊ ዶላር ብጸሊም ዕዳጋ፡ (መብዝሕትኡ ኣብ ወጻኢ ዝነብር ህዝብና እውን ዝሳተፈሉ ዘሎ ሓደገኛ ገበን) ኣብ ዘሰንብድ ኩነታት ዓሪጉ ይርከብ። እታ ሃገር፡ ከምዚ ዝኣመሰለ መድሃኽቲ ክትጻወር እይትኽእልን እያ። ሃገራዊ ዕዳ (ናይ ውሽጥን ደገን) ላዕሊ ደይቡ። ትሕዝቶ ናይ ወጻኢ ባጤራ ባንኪ ኤርትራ ለሚሱ፡ እቲ ስርዓት ብጸብጻብ ወይ ባጀት ዝተሰነደ ቁጠባዊ ጭብጥታት ኣይህብን ኢሉ ኣብዩ። መን’ዩ ኣበይ ከውፍር። ዝገዘፈ ክፋል ውልቃዊ ወፍርታት ድማ በቲ ስርዓት ከም ዝተኣገደ ምግንዛብ የድልይ።

      እቲ ተቓወምቲ ዘይምህላው ጉዳይ፡ ሕራይ እዝግሔር ወይ ረቢ ኣይፈቐዶን። እዞም “ዘለውና”፡ ብጉዳይ ገድሊ ዝናቖቱ ካብ ቅድሚ 50 ዓመት ዝፈለሱ ደቂ-ሕድርትና እዮም። ንህልውቲ ኤርትራ፡ ወይ ኩነታትን ኣደራዕን ናይዚ ሚስኪን ህዝቢ’ዚ ኣይንታዮምን እዩ። ቐደም ኣይወከሉና፡ ሎም ኣይውክሉና። እቲ ናተይ ሕቶ ግን፡ ነቶም ብፍርሒ ተዋሒጦም ሃገሮም እናበረሰ፡ ዓጽመ-ደሞም ህዝቦም፡ ከም ሕሱም እናተጨፍለቀን፡ ኣደዳ ማሕረድቲ፡ ኮይኑ ካራሩ እናጉደመ። ብፍርሒ ነዲኦም ክኣትዉዋ…እንሄልካ ትንዕ እኳ ዘይብሉ። ወረ’ኳ ካብ ሃገር ዝተዘርፈ ሸርፊ ባጤራ ገይሮም ዘስዕብዎ ዘለዉ ብርሰት ተረዲኦም እንተዝቑጠቡ ከመይ ምኣኸለና። እቲ፡ ሓግዝዎ’ዶ ኣዋጽእሉ’ዶ ዝበልካዮ ግን፡ ክቡር ሓው፡ ኣይግድን። እዚ ብገበንን፡ ደም ንጹሃትን ዝዓብለኸ ስርዓት፡ ጉድጓድ ፍሓርሉ ጥራይ እዩ እቲ ትኽክለኛ ኣረኣእያ።

      ምስ ሰላምታን ጽቡቕ ምንዮትን

      • hizbawi

        Selamat Haile. I am always intrigued by the numbers and assumed to be facts. I keep hearing numbers that is supposedly represented Eritrea. For instance, I hear aministy declaring that there are 10.000 prsinors in Eritrea, then the journalist organization accuses Eritrea for not allowing free press and not sharing information i.e. nothing is known about Eritrea. Now, reading your post, I cannot help but to trigger that nagging doubt and hesitation.
        You said,
        ኣብዚ እዋን፡ እቲ ስርዓት ብሰንኪ ዘዋህለሎ ግዕዘይ ቁጠባውን ፊናንሳውን ምሕደራ፡ ገዛእ ርእሱ ከላቕቕሉ ኣብዘይክእለሉ ታኼላ ኤኮኖሚኣዊ፡ ማሕበራውን፡ ፖለቲካውን ብርሰት ተሸሚሙ ኣሎ።

        On the post you said

        ትሕዝቶ ናይ ወጻኢ ባጤራ ባንኪ ኤርትራ ለሚሱ፡ እቲ ስርዓት ብጸብጻብ ወይ ባጀት ዝተሰነደ ቁጠባዊ ጭብጥታት ኣይህብን ኢሉ ኣብዩ።

        My dilemma is don’t you need to open up the books to exactly determined and say
        “ኣብዚ እዋን፡ እቲ ስርዓት ብሰንኪ ዘዋህለሎ ግዕዘይ ቁጠባውን ፊናንሳውን ምሕደራ፡ ገዛእ ርእሱ ከላቕቕሉ ኣብዘይክእለሉ ታኼላ ኤኮኖሚኣዊ፡ ማሕበራውን፡ ፖለቲካውን ብርሰት ተሸሚሙ ኣሎ።

        Don’t you think you are contradicting yourself on this one?
        I am not you saying you are wrong, I am simply questioning the source of your declaration.
        Regards,
        Hizbawi

        • haile

          Selamat Hizbawi,

          Your question is a good one and I am sure more people need similar clarifications. There are two aspects to this: a national budget per fiscal cycle and publicly available national economic indicators (and records of transactions) that are made available by external agencies. Eritrea’s total import/export volume is publicly available, to give you an example. Where as the actual volume of imports/exports that pass through the nation’s borders can’t be fully traced because the vast majority goes under the table through the party affiliated businesses. Now, whatever capital is expended or gained by these party businesses has no bearing on the standing of the State’s insolvency. If the regime collapse today, all that would go into thin air, it only serves the regime. The national debt (publicly known), the national reserve in hard currency and/or gold (publicly known), accounted for import/export volume (publicly known)… are all the one’s that would stay after the regime.

          Take for example: Eritrea’s external earning increased following the going-to-production of Nevsun 2011/12, however its external debt have increased for the same period, its national reserves dwindled from an already low of around $170million to around $140million over the same period, its fuel imports remained the same (mainly off set by the extraction industry), its domestic credit increased (IMF), no change in the exchange rate in foreign currency. Technically, despite the regime was able to generate more funds from mineral extraction, loans and grants, diaspora remittance and fund raised none of the nations publicly available economic indicators were positively impacted! In fact it gotten worse and the nation is deeper in debt, shorter in energy supply and lower in its credit standing.

          This is where you would want to know how the national budget is allocated. Only some one with a hidden addiction or a regime siphoning of national wealth would earn more (externally available data) and gets poorer (externally available data). In fact, national budgets are pron to a lot of “cooking” and only make proper sense when looked at against externally sourced indicators. The world bank knows and (made available) every single loan that the regime has taken. Bilateral partners make their data on loan and aid provisions to the regime available as part of their own reporting procedures (China, Italy…). These data also record the total project cost and their contribution. So because the regime doesn’t release its own data or prepare annual budgetary and fiscal policy, it doesn’t mean that its recorded transactions are not made externally available. All it is doing is that it is refusing to account on how it actually spent the resources that it derives on behalf of the nation and its citizens.

          As you may know, Eritrea’s official foreign currency exchange rate has been frozen for many years on end. The widest circulation of hard currency is through the black market. Today the dollar is roughly 52 ERN on black, while 14.96 ERN on the central bank’s directives. How many people do you know that send money or transact at the official exchange rate? And what does this mean? This means that the state doesn’t generate hard currency from any of the transactions that take place. And if the regime falls today, we will have an empty state coffers that basic services would be disrupted and instant economic melt down affected. We will not have any access to the regime controlled holdings as it would evaporate with the regime itself. Due to high debt, poor standing of Sovereign payments and other considerations, we would stand in a very bad shape to borrow for fiscal stabilization. We will not be able to reign in on black market and restore semblance of normality without major outside injection of aid/loan. Who would that be? At what political cost?

          Again, what would be the other considerations of security? In order to implement corrective measures in the economy, you will need to have stronger central government (which the regime would never leave you with one) or be fully aided by other external actors. The sanctions (mainly arms embargo) would ensure that we are weak and ensure to the diktat of others. Major political fault lines may give rise to years of hashewye…

          So, Hizbawi, there are tonnes of externally available data as regards Eritrea’s economic data. You are capable of accessing many. I would also suggest specialized books such as Eritrea Foreign Policy And Government Guide (paperback rough cost $80) and first hand information from what goes on in the country. Our so called “opposition” are busy correcting some of our pressing problems from the Ghedli era, others talk about the independence of our Sovereignty from external interference and suggest that we discuss that instead. While the regime will ensure that we will not be in a position to defend a single village let alone the nation as a whole. Very strange times indeed.

          If you need any of the links for any aspect of the claims I made or further justifications, I would be happy to forward it (although I have no doubt you can find out yourself too).

          Regards

  • YAY

    ዝኸበርካ ሃይለ፡ ብታህዋኽ ወይ ብናይ ቋንቋ ጸገም ከይተረዳዳእና ከይንሓልፍ

    “I agree on the notion that blaming Ghedli or tegadelti for the mess is neither responsible nor prudent. But it is far from the truth to declare that the colossal damage that has been wrought on the State by the governing regime is to do, solely, with the no-war-no-peace state of situation. The regime has done far too much damage by amplifying the ramifications of the war and denying Eritreans at home and the Diaspora from contributing in any meaningful way other than its greed. It is not fair to tell your friend that he didn’t contribute, when in fact, he is not in a position to do so due to the simple fact that the regime has literally cordoned off the nation and is holding it in a hostage like lock-down state. Please, let’s be fair here.”
    ናብ ትግርኛ ኪትርጎም እንከሎ

    “እዚ ዘሎ ግዕዘይ ናብ ገድሊ ወይ ተጋደልቲ ምልጋብ ሓላፍነታዊ ወይ ጕርሕነት ከም ዘይኮነ እሰማምዓሉ እየ። ይኹንምበር፡ እዚ ገዛኢ ስርዓት ኣብ ልዕሊ እቲ ክዋነት ዘስዓቦ ኣዝዩግዙፍ ጕድኣት ሳዕቤን ናይቲ ኣይሰላም ኣይኵናት ኵነታት ጥራይ እዩ ብሂልካ ምእዋጅ ግን ካብ ሓቂ ዝረሓቀ እዩ። እቲ ስርዓት ንሳዕቤናት ናይቲ ኵናት ብምግናን ወ ኣብ ውሽጢ ኮነ ደገ ንዘለዉ ኤርትራውያን ስስዕትኡ ገዲፉ ትርጉም ብዘለዎ መንገዲ እጃሞም ንከየበርክቱ ብምኽልካሉ እውን ኣዝዩ ብዙሕ ጕድኣት ጌሩ እዩ። እቲ ስርዓት ነታ ሃገር ቃልንቃሉ ብገመድ ከርዲኑ ወይ መርሖ ማዕጾ ብመሸገጥ ከምዝለኮተ ሰብ ዓጊቱ ንሃገር ጅሆ ስለዝሓዞ ከበርክት ዘክእሎ ቦታ በቲ ስርዓት ብርግጽ ኣብ ዝተከልከለሉ ግዜ ንዓርክኻ ኣየበርከትካን ክትብህሎ ትኽክል ኣይኮነን ። ኣብዚኣስ በጃኻ ትኽክለኛታት ንዅን። ”

    መልሰይ ደንጕዩ ብምምጽኡ ኣይትሓዘለይ።
    ኣነ “ህግደፍ ዝተኸሎ መንግስቲ ኤርትራ ብዝተማልአ ዓቐን ህዝባዊ መልክዕ ዘይሓዘሉ ቀንዲ ምኽንያት፡ ድሕሪ 1998 ኣብ ኵናት ወይ ሓውሲኵናት ተጸሚዱ ስለዘሎ (ከምቲ ናይ ህግሓኤ ኣብ ግዜ ገድሊ) ንወተሃደራዊ ጉዳያት ቀዳምነት ስለዝሃቦ ደኣምበር ደሞክራስያዊ ወይ ቅዋማዊ መንግስቲ ኪምስርት ስልዘይደለየ እይነበረን ንዓይ ከም ዝርኣየኒ።” ስለዝበሀልኩ እዩ ዝመስል እስኻ

    “እዚ ገዛኢ ስርዓት ኣብ ልዕሊ እቲ ክዋነት ዘስዓቦ ኣዝዩግዙፍ ጕድኣት ሳዕቤን ናይቲ ኣይሰላም ኣይኵናት ኵነታት ጥራይ እዩ ብሂልካ ምእዋጅ ግን ካብ ሓቂ ዝረሓቀ እዩ።” ትብህል። መንዩ ሳዕቤን ናይቲ ኣይሰላም ኣይኵናት ኵነታት ጥራይ እዩ ብሂሉ ካብ ሓቂ ዝረሓቀ ኣዋጅ ኣዊጁ፧

    “ቀንዲ ምኽንያት” ማለት እኮ ሓደ ጥራይ እዩ እቲ ምኽንያት ማለት ኣይኮነን። ካልኦት ምኽንያታት ከም ዘለዉ እቲ ናይ ኣይሰላም ኣይኵናት ኵነታት ግን ንብዙሕ ካልኦት ጉዳያት ዝትንክፍ ወይ ዝጸልው ዓብላሊ ተራ ከምዘለዎ ንምምልካት ድኣምበር እሱ ጥራይዩ እቲ ምኽንያት ንምብሃል ኣይኮነን።
    ኣነ ብዙሕ ምኽንያታት ኣሎ ግን ኵነታት ኣይኵናት ኣይሰላም ቀንዲ ምኽንያት እዩ ክብህል እንከለኹ እስኻ ድማ ሓደ ጥራይ ኣይኮነን ብዙሕ እዩ እቲ ምኽንያታት ኢኻ ትብህል ዘሎኻ። ኣነ እቲ ቀንዲ ምኽንያት ከነጽር እንከለኹ እስኻ ግን ብድፉኑ ሓሊፍካዮ። በዚ ምኽንያት ብህለተይ ካብ ሓቂ ዝረሓቐ ኣይኮነን።

    ቀጺልና ተቃወምቲ ሃገራዊ ወይ ሓርብአኛዊ ግቡኣት ኪፍጽሙ ኣለዎምዶ የብሎምን ንመርምር። ክዋነት ኤርትራ ኪብሃል እንከሎ፡ ብጠቅላላኡ ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ብሓደ ኪትከል፡ ኪመሓየሽ ወይ ኪቕየር ዝኽእል ናይ ሃገር መንግስቲ ኣብ መሬቱ ተጠርኒፉ ድሕነቱ ወ ነጻነቱ ንምክልኻል ወ ጽቡቅ ናብራኡ ንምርግጋጽ ንርእሱ ከም አሓት ወ አሕዋት ዘመሓዳድር ናጻ ማሕበር ማለት እዩ። ተቃወምቲ ንገለ መምርሕታት ወ ተግባራት ምምሕዳር ህግደፍ ይጽልኡ ኣይጽልኡ ብዘየገድስ ኣባላት ናይዚ ክዋነት ወይ ሕብረት እዮም። ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ናይ ህግደፍ ህዝቢ ጥራይ ኣይኮነን፡ መሬት ኤርትራ ናይ ህግደፍ መሬት ጥራይ ኣይኮነን፡ ናጻነት ኤርትራ ምሕላው ናይ ህግደፍ ሓላፍነት ጥራይ ኣይኮነን፡ ሽግራት ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ምቅላል ወይ ምውጋድ ናይ ህግደፍ ግዴታ ጥራይ ኣይኮነን፡ መሰል ልዑላውነት ኤርትራ ኣብ ውሽጢ ፍሉጥ ዶባታ ምርግጋጽ ናይ ህግደፍ ጉዳይ ጥራይ ኣይኮነን፡ ንሰራዊት ኤርትራ ምህናጽን ምድልዳልን ናይ ህግደፍ ግደ ጥራይ ኣይኮነን፡ ኤኮኖሚ ወ ናብራ ህዝቢ ምምሕያሽ ናይ ህግደፍ ስራሕ ጥራይ ኣይኮነን፡ ንህገራዊ ወ ህዝባዊ ጉዳያት መካየዲ በብክእለትካ ግብሪ ምኽፋል ናይ ህግደፍ ግዴታ ጥራይ ኣይኮነን። ግቡእ ተቃወምቲ ኤርትራውያን እውን እዩ።

    ተቃወምቲ ይኹኑ ደገፍቲ ህግደፍ ንኩሉ ሃገራዊ ግቡኣቶም እናፈጸሙ እዮም ንመምርሒታት ወይ ተግባራት ህግደፍ ነቂፎም ብዝበለጸ መምርሒታት ወ ተግባራት ክትክኡዎ ዝግብኦም። ነቲ ብህግደፍ ተተኺሉ ዘሎ መንግስቲ ኤርትራ ኪሃንጽዎ፡ ከመሓይሽዎ፡ እናኾስኮሱ ወ እናተኸናኸኑ ከማዕብሉዎ ደኣዩ ዝሓይሽ እምበር ምስ ጸላእቱ ወይ ሓንኰልቱ ተሓባቢሮም ከዕንዉዎ ኣይኮነን። ንህግደፍ ዝቃወም ኵሉ ንተቃውሞኡ ኣብ ውሽጢ ክልል ጕዳያት ክዋነት ኤርትራ ኣቐሚጡ እዩ ኪንቀሳቐስ ዝግብኦ። ንህግደፍ ካብ ስልጣን መንግስቲ ኤርትራ ከተውርድ ክትብል ነቲ ክዋነት ኤርትራ ከተፍርሶ ንሓደነት ኮነ ንሃገርነት ኤርትራ ኣዕናዊ እዩ። ቀንዲ ዕላማ ተቃወምቲ ብሰላማዊ ወይ ሕጋዊ ኣገባባት ኣብ ስልጣን ምምጻእ ድኣምበር ንህግደፍ ምዕናው ኣይኮነን።

    “እቲ ስርዓት ነታ ሃገር ቃልንቃሉ ብገመድ ከርዲኑ ወይ መርሖ ማዕጾ ብመሸገጥ ከምዝለኮተ ሰብ ዓጊቱ ንሃገር ጅሆ ስለዝሓዞ ከበርክት ዘክእሎ ቦታ በቲ ስርዓት ብርግጽ ኣብ ዝተከልከለሉ ግዜ ንዓርክኻ ኣየበርከትካን ክትብህሎ ትኽክል ኣይኮነን ።” ዝብሀልካዮ ግን ብስምዒታት ዝተመልአ ኣበሃህላ እዩ ዝመስል። ንኣብነት፡ መንግስቲ ኤርትራ ኣብ ግብሪ ምኽፋል፡ ሃገራዊ ኣገልግሎት ምግባር፡ ዝተጸንዐ ሓዲሽ ንድፊ ሓሳባት ምቅራብ፡ ሓገዝ ንስድራ ስዉኣትን ውጹዓትን ምሃብ፡ ናይ ንዋት ይኹን ገንዘብ ወፈያታት ፡ ወዘተ ብምግባር ክትሳተፍ ኣይክልክልን እዩ። ከምዚ ዓይነት ተሳታፍነት ድማ ንህዝቢ ንሃገር ዝጥቅም እምበር ብፍላይ ንህግደፍ ጥራይ ስስዕቱ ዘርዊ ኣይኮነን። ስለዚ ናይ ምስታፍ ማዕጾታት ኵሉ ዝተከርደን ወይ ዝተሽገጠ ኣይኮነን፡ ክፉትን ግፍቱንን ማዕጾታት ከምዘሎ ዘይግንዘብ ዘረባ ኣይትዛረብ።

    ካብቲ መንግስቲ ዝደልዮ ወ ዝኣመሞ ሕግታትን መምርሒታትን ወጻኢ ፡እሞ ድማ ኣብ እዋን ህጹጽ ኵነታት፡ ናይ ባዕልና ተበግሶ ንከይንወስድ ከልኪሉና እንተኾይኑ እቲ ዘረባ፡ ተቃወምቲ ምስቲ ገዛኢ ሰልፊ ተረዳዲኦም መዝነት ተዋሂቡዎም ኣብ ስልጣን መንግስቲ ተሳተፍቲ ኣብ ዘይኮኑሉ ግዜ ዓቕሞም ድሩት ከምዚኸውን፡ ከም ዜጋታት ድማ ብመምርሒታት ናቲ ስልጣን ሒዙ ዘሎ ሰልፊ ቅዩዳት ምዃኖም ምርሳዕ ይመስለኒ። ተቃወምቲ፡ ለውጢ ንኪመጽእ ክድርኹ ዕላምናዩ ብሂሎም እንተሒዞሞ ድማ፡ ብመንፈስ ገድልን ተጋደልትን፡ ኣብ ውሽጢ ህዝቦምን ሃገሮምን (ማለት፡ተሃዊኾም ናብ ኵናት ሓድሕድ ከይኣተዉ ወይ ሓይልታት ባዕዲ ናብ ኤርትራ ኣትዮም ነቲ ብህግደፍ ዝተተኽለ መንግስቲ ከዕንዉሎም ከይዓደሙ፡ኣብ ክልል ክዋነት ኤርትራ) ኮይኖም፡ ንጽቡቕ ለውጢ ኪቃለሱ ኣድላይነት ይህልዎ። ትኽክል ምዃን ማለት ከምዚ እዩ ይመስለኒ።

  • Sabri

    Selamat Haile and Asmara,

    I feel both of you as two Eritreans who love Eritrea but the verbal war going on between you is not necessary. Obviously you have differences. I suggest you concentrate on the issue rather than on personality. Refrain from unnecessary emotional expression. 

    My suggestion to Asmara: refrain from emotional expression,  formulate why you support the government, why they are good for Eritrea and meet Haile’s argument by factual argument. 

    My suggestion to Haile: refrain from emotional expression, concentrate on your argument why you think the government is destroying the country.

    Both of you don’t need to waste energy to convince each other. Focus should be on factual arguments. At the end if both of you still remain disagreed on many points it is ok. Please make ceasefire. 

    To other participants: please refrain from to take side. It doesn’t help. Leave them to sort out their differences by themselves. 

    To the moderator: if the verbal war continue you need to intervene. 

    Good luck,
    Sabri

    • haile

      Selamat Sabri

      Gdef eba police (moderator) ayt’tsewE :-)

      Your point is generally true. However, I fear that asmara is not ready for that kind of sober debate. Asmara supports the border resolution as per EEBC in order to prove his/her loyalty to the regime and not out of sober and dispassionate reflection of the full ramifications of the matter in all its attendant concerns to the nation and its people.

      In the flip side, asmara also opposes those with legitimate grievances against the regime, for the same reason of subservience to the system that is holding our future hostage. That is why asmara has only concerned his/herself with the types of expletives to throw at people and not deal with any of the issues (that have nothing to do with the border) that have been presented here at length.

      So, my question is what use would debating asmara be, if all they have is the cyber form of what the regime had been doing in real life since 2001 when it snatched state power by force and has been rolling the nation on the mud ever after.

      Ms Selamta
      Haile

      • Sabri

        Hailat,

        Did you hear this joke? In Ethiopia there are two kinds of police: ordinary and federal police. Federal police is very fearful. When they appear on the street not only ordinarily people even ordinary police hiding themselves. 

        Hiji kea niskatkum enteabikum Police aykonen federal police kitswi eye:)Ziban higi eba bejakatkum.

  • asmara

    Sebri,
    Noting the way you handle yourself in this forum, and reading most of your comments here, I can safely assume you are actually one of the concerned Eritreans. Hence, though there are some erroneous messages and assumptions in your comment above, I would take it as a positive one. You said:
    “….They are concerned on boarder issue and other national security issues…….”
    Very true! I am one of them actually. And if you are searching for a point to the things I stay, you got it right there! That is the number 1. Actually I can list some of them here.
    1. The border issue, the no war no peace condition and all the other cruel agenda being exercised by woyanie. And my believe that almost everything bad happening in Eritrea (the abnormal ones) one way or the other, directly or indirectly, is related or is as a result of that issue. The relationship of events to the border could range from a simple one to one relationship to a very complex one. Actually the sole purpose of woyanie doing what they are doing it is to fulfill what their ancestors being doing for years –except, woyanie found a new way of doing it. Using the border was as a pretext, and instead of using a direct face to face impact with the Eritrean people (Which past Ethio governments, the monarch and Derg tried and failed terribly), woyanie is trying to utilize foot soldiers (Some Eritreans with grudges), and also want to benefit from the choking for a PROLONGED time, of the whole Eritrea, and invest on the grievances of Eritreans, that would arise as a result. And they improvise every time. Use USA’s economic might, and people magnet, as a luring power for the Eritreans youth (The direct victims of the prolonged no war no situation – and the ones who would grieve as a result, and may fall victims of forgetting Woyanie was actually designing this – and they are falling into that designed trap) to flow through the migration corridor well-crafted by USA and Ethiopia, allow few in Universities, and now Electric supply stuff. They improvise depending on the situation, but always focusing on the end objective they set out to get. This situation is to be extended until it starts to give the notion of a failed state. Here come in the UNIONISTS.

    2. I believe the Unionist and Woyanie subordinates are the worst enemies of Eritrea. And I believe our policy should be “shoot – to – kill” (As in no negotiation with Terrorists, kind of thing). The reason for that is our past experience with unionists and Hailesillassie subordinates, and the huge cost we had to pay to get our Eritrea back. If any Eritrean thinks my stand on these Unionists is unwarranted, all you have to do is count the Eritreans who dies in a 30 years bloody war, then how many decades Eritrea had to be dragged back, and its problems to go on and on forever. So, if anyone is not happy the way I describe these people, then though!

    3. The Eritrean people are God fearing, just and smart people who would give any one a chance if they see a good intent, and would not give the time of the day to any cheat, liar and manipulative entity or group. Hence the reason for their continuous standing alongside their government and the reason the government is standing against all the cruel and fierce blows that are coming in all direction is because the Eritrean people saw a good intend in it and are standing by it by choice. Our Haile here, with his new kind of fame, tried to portray the Eritrean people as weak, idiots and easily manipulated kind. That is when I cut him short. He thought he was insulting the Eritrean government, but he was actually trashing our people. Please go back and re read all of my posting and replies to Haile on the original (SAAY’s) article.

    4. Any person or group who misses number 3 is destined to fail. You can see this point in my reply to SAAY in the same forum. There I told SAAY the reason the Eritrean Government is standing tall against all odds, is because the Eritrean people are saw it right to shield and defend it. The reason the so called opposition (Supported with Woyanie, the Us, sanction, and what not) don’t seem to make a dent is because, believing they were fighting against the Government, they were actually fighting the people, mainly because the miss point number 3 above.

    5. To rectify their mistake, and to be accepted by the Eritrean people (Heck –just being and acting Eritrean would suffice), they need to start to respect and care for the Eritrean people. They have to learn to support the good and oppose the bad. They have to learn to stand with their people and with the government running the nation at that particular time, when the nation is threatened by outside elements. They have to be ERITREAN when Eritrea is threatened.

    They got the chance with the BORDER ISSUE. And to any Eritrean’s advantage, the Government happened to be the one who is right and the one who is standing on the right side of justice. That was a golden opportunity- ! Siding with the government was and is the right direction to go. That way they could have shown some maturity for the Eritrean people. That way they could have proudly say, see we give Eritrea first, we support the government when it is right (as huge as a national security) and when it is defending our Eritrea. Full stop!. No mixing national security stuff with anything else. Period!
    What they should never never do is, side with the aggressor (woyanie), try to use the border issue for their personal benefit, at the expense of the Eritrean people , try to benefit from the miseries the Eritrean people are going through as a result of the border issue and all its junk (Sinaii, 2%, no Electric, no water, etc. ..and all the things new Haile is dumping here, believing he is presenting new thing.).

    You can read all the above in the comments I exchanged with Haile , most of which were written with respect.

    Haile is in his own right to go buddy buddy with a Unionists and Woyanie Subordinate. If he thinks calling the Hidrat or Hayat a “Woyanie subordinate” or a “Unionist” is an insult, then all he has to do is say something against woyanie, and see who quacks. Or go back and visit the stand they were portraying here in this form since way back when.
    But we already know this, and Haile very much knows this – it is just his acute attention seeker nature is taking the best out of you.
    BEST YET, If AMANUEL HIDRAT AND HAYYAT felt they were insulted by this all they have to do is SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT AND TELL US
    1. They don’t have unionist tendencies.
    2. Every Eritrean wants Eritrea to have a good relationship with all its neighbors, including Ethiopia. The only issue we have with Ethiopia right now is because Woyanie, against the ruling of an international court of law is violating our nation. On top of that Woyanie is working and threatening the very nation hood of our country. Add to that the very fact that Eritrea was a victim of previous Ethiopian colonializes, and had to wedge a fierce struggle to break away from them, so it is natural for Eritrea to seek for a breathing space, it is natural for Eritrea to reserve any relationship it wants to have with Ethiopia reserved. This is a fact. Therefor the mentioned individuals should tell us

    – Why they standing guard for Woyanie, while Woyanie is violating our Eritrea?
    – How come they always make it their duty to jump in in defense of Woyanie, whenever people knock its head?
    But Haile is in his own right to be an attention seeker and look for that attention here in this forum as well. And awate.com are also in their own right to grant that attention to him the way they see it fit for their purpose, after all there are many ways you can skin a cat. An there are many ways to knock down a marks man who was shooting everyone in sight arming himself with a power full tool called the “Eritrean Ethiopian border ruling”. Particularly it is easy to mark and shoot down the marksman himself, if he is the riayuni-riayuni kind. So the hype would not surprise me a bit. All the fanfare in the previous post was simply a hype solely aimed at grooming Haile; anyone who thinks this is otherwise missed the joke played on him. Look at how tame and meek he turned out to be right now. If you ask him about the border issue now, the answer you get is , what border issue? Actually it gets worse, he would shamelessly say, there is nothing to it, all it needs is for Ethiopia to leave the disputed land.
    As for insults and bad mouthing goes, all you need to remember is, most of the name calling comes from people who call themselves opposition. Komaro, Zombie, un educated, PFDJiets, Issayasists,. The list is long. Haile retained that tradition and started to label Araya, a butler, and that warrantied to slap him silly.

    • haile

      asmara

      I thought you were doing some soul searching, you still haven’t moved an inch.

      Why do you think along the lines of “attention seeking” “grooming” “being used” “being buddies with so and so…”

      Let me give you the basics of my politics straight up:

      1) The current regime holding state power in Eritrea is illegal and damaging our national interest.

      2) The border issue is state issue and not regime issue (the latter only use it to prolong its hold on power). If the regime goes today, we still have the the border issue to deal with because it doesn’t go with the regime (not regime issue). The final and binding EEBC decision must be respected and TPLF SHOULD LEAVE NOW.

      3) The issue of economic and arms embargo (under Chapter VII) or state sponsor of terrorist designation is also a state issue not just regime issue. It doesn’t only harm the well being of citizens but also would cost us politically and security wise in the future even after the regime. That is why I oppose it (it is a state issue). If the state is faring well defending against the effects of the sanction, let facts speak for themselves.

      4) The idea of Eritrea started the war had not been determined conclusively. The EECC made a limited determination and the commission that was supposed to have been set up to determine that, never did. So I have no reason to accept that idea and undermines the stand of the state in the territorial dispute political fallouts.

      5) The regime of IA has brought down the nation to an irrelevant, weak and bankrupt state that it is now. It is refusing to allow for peaceful transfer of power to the people, exposing the nation and its citizens to grave dangers.

      Why don’t you open your mind and see the deep mess you’re in? Do you have to fear that other opposition groups might be happy if you utter the truth. I repeat, asmara, where are your balls?

      The regime is dangerous to the safety of the Eritrean people and their future, stop trying to shower us with your pompous, nobody is buying that. Talk straight up without calling out others, if you need to be taken seriously.

      • asmara

        Soul searching? iza dawa temtso alewa!

        Dude,

        You don’t get it, do you? You think people are stupid or what?

        You bottleneck is you seem to have low regard of the Eritrean people. And you have low regard of the people in this form as well. You simply forgot all your past comments are a click away, and the flip flop nature is out there for everyone to see. So cut the crap. That tiger-look-alike thing who used to roam this forum proudly, is no more. Now it is an attention seeking meek domestic cat with all pawns removed. Sure, it retains the same name. But nobody is fooled. All the respect is gone.
        That aside, my comment above was meant for Sebri this time. Sure, I mentioned some idiots in passing. Actually all the things listed above were in all the comments I wrote to you and to the unionists, meaning it is not the first time you are reading them. Meaning it is not a new thing or a new stand we are talking here. All were presented to you before in the right way. Again cut the crap.
        Now, if you are tempted to add or say anything here which you haven’t said already, at least address them one by one in the order they are presented there. Otherwise, we are still in the uselessness section.
        The border issue or the disaster disguised by the border issue is a huge thing. It is designed to be huge and designed to inflict a tremendous damage to Eritrea and the Eritrean people. I know it, the Eritrean people know it and you know it. Therefore :
        1) Your “…The border issue is state issue and not regime issue…” is simply here for “HALKI”. You are damn right it is an Eritrean issue, that is why your new song, regime this regime that would not fly here.
        2) My comment above (Actually most of my comments) refer Eritrean people and Eritrea. And everything starts from there. The new you on the other hand seem to focus on two things. I) regime ii) Being careful not to say anything bad, deservedly or undeservedly, about the aggressor Woyanie, and the Subordinates. That is so new. And that stinks so much that the forum is .
        3) The reason we used to respect what you used to say before WAS not because you support or oppose, the government or the so called opposition, it was because of your stand on the border issue. By the same token, it is not the new found stand of calling yourself a new opposition, and having a new realization of what you think is the Government of Eritrea like, it is the way you damped the border issue and push it aside, to a second and minor thing which is creepy.
        I think now the fanfare is over. The 15 min (Few days) fame is kind of getting stale. Time for you to accept that. Try to find another you or bring back the old you or something, otherwise we are bored to death here.

        • haile

          asmara

          You really think it is that easy, don’t you?

          That the “Eritrean People” are at the mercy of the backward regime and its mentally challenged operatives like you! You are damn right that the fanfare is over:) Only yours hasn’t caught up with it. You have no idea how deep you’ve fallen. Please don’t limit your world to this forums, there is more going on outside in exposing the regime in the way it understands best. Trust me, the game is over, in the diaspora the regime is vulnerable (it is wide open for all sorts of attacks), at home things couldn’t be easier, today in Asmara all you need is 7000ERN to obtain Eritrean id card in 2 days flat. No questions asked. The regime’s ways have finally caught up with it. It is wide open now. I suspect you’re caught in and there is nothing that you could do or say.

          Try to talk as Eritrean, the “Eritrean People” nonsense is just melemeni in the diaspora, everyone knows that by now. Didn’t the woyane slapped it in front of the world recently? How come your “Rambo” regime took it kneeling down? :-) The regime can only sell in contraband, can’t defend the nation. It is dead! Expect the regime to be exposed in big ways soon. Seriously, you would laugh your hear off if you’d heard what one of the regimes high placed emissary (from North America) was saying in private and drunken, about the regime, during a recent trip to the UK from north America.

          Asmara, again, you think this is something that would go away, HELL NO. Unless you are a publicly known butler, you have ample opportunity to jump the ship. Good luck.

    • Hameed

      Asmara,

      Isaias is grooming his son Abrahiam to inherit him the rule of Eritrea. He is also preparing his daughter Sara to be the Minister of Information. The question is: Why doesn’t Isaias wait untill the border issue is settled?

      Asmara, you are just a blind sectarian. I am sure you don’t care about the people of Eritrea.

  • haile

    Awatistas

    As this particular post now gets to the winding down stages, after dicussing many wrong doings done by the regime holding state power, by force, in Eritrea. Let’s do the traditional closing ceremony by presenting the much awaited “Just for a laughs” section :-)

    Tefshanews or publicly known as tesfanews.net once reported that “Eritrea Adopts Liberalization of Foreign Currency” under what it termed as “Development News“. This of course was related to the Eritrean regime’s issued Proclamation 173/2013:

    http://www.tesfanews.net/eritrea-adopts-liberalization-of-foreign-currency/

    What was interesting and funny was that the proclamation WAS NOT intended to “Liberalize Foreign currency” at all. Such proclamation had long been enacted then repealed long before Tefshanews appeared on the net, in fact issued back in 1998 through Proclamations: 59/1994b & 93/1997:

    http://www.eritrean-embassy.se/invest-in-eritrea/banking-in-eritrea/

    Even more strange that Tefshanews was actually contradicting the above Proclamation by stating that:

    “..Accordingly Eritreans residing inside and abroad as well as government institutions can now open foreign currency accounts and do international transactions without any limitations or explanations including on the amount they can bring into and take out from Eritrea.”

    Actually, the text of the Proclamation that Tefshanews posted underneath says:

    “(2) Eritrean citizens residing in Eritrea may open foreign currency accounts in Eritrean banks and utilize their foreign currency for legitimate means.

    (3) Eritrean citizens residing outside Eritrea may open foreign currency accounts in Eritrean banks and operate their foreign currency without any restriction.

    (5) Citizens residing in Eritrea who have opened foreign currency accounts in Eritrea may use their foreign currency upon presentation to the banks acceptable evidence.”

    Is this guy writing up his own Proclamation or what? :-)

    =====================================================================

    Another interesting and funny mulaq ziena (leaked news) was to do with FM Osman’s claim of 250MW electricity:)

    In regime seminars, often times, one is given claims that are so juicy but never reported publicly. Such as Petros Solomon was caught red-handed while talking to an Italian CIA! This was one of those things.

    Some what uncharacteristically, someone was allowed to record inside the meeting, and the following video with such a claim makes it to YouTube by a certain Negash Haile:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=T__U02Qs6zE

    Meskerem.net gets hold of the link and posts it on its website (requesting …hey where is the rest of the tape!)

    The video views shoots in to thousands and Tefsha news looks, hmmm… first to the right then to the left and posts the following:

    http://www.tesfanews.net/ethiopia-offers-electricity-in-exchange-for-dialogue-to-eritrea/

    Even a certain a commenter “Selam” throws it here, at the awate.com, in the middle of a debate with me.

    Finally, the regime communications center Embassy Media UK releases the OFFICIAL narrative of the events. Interestingly, in the part about the seminar, well, the 250MW of electricity were NO WHERE TO BE MENTIONED!. It was never meant to be released, it was, indeed, Mulaq ziena kab enda 03 :-)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aitf-mCdcl8
    *TIP: I usually switch off my device screen and just listen to the sound, it helps me focus:-)

    This tells you Tesfanews.net needs to slow down and stop running ahead of the regime, after all this is not a race, there is only one contender:-)

  • yegermal

    Six high level PFDJ officials dead in the past seven months (post- Forto). Natural death or foul play? And their death was probably announced because they are well known….One can’t help but wonder how many unannounced deaths have there been since Forto?

    “1. Minister of Local Government passes away
    04 August 2013 – Veteran fighter Mr. Woldemichael Gebremariam, Minister of Local Government, today passed away at the age of 72 in Keren city during his return from a working visit in Gash-Barka region.

    2. Veteran Fighter Mohammed Omar Suba passes away
    Asmara, 18 June 2013 – Veteran Fighter Mohammed Omar Suba who joined the ELF in 1974 and served in various capacities up to 1988 in the battlefield and abroad passed away today at the age of 63.

    3. Col. Mohammed-Seid Saleh passes away
    Asmara, 15 July 2013 – Veteran fighter Col. Mohammed-Seid Saleh who has been under medical treatment passed away today at the age of 64.

    4. Col. Sium Habtemariam passes away
    Asmara, 1 June 2013 – Veteran fighter, Col. Sium Habtemariam, who has been under intensive medical treatment at the Air Force Hospital in Asmara, has passed away at the age of 67.

    5. Veteran fighter Mohammed Idris Tilul passes away
    Asmara, 8 May 2013 – Veteran fighter Mohammed Idris Tilul, who has been under medical treatment, died yesterday at the age of 67.

    6. Col. Abdurahman Mahmoud Jasser passes away
    Asmara, 2 February 2013 – Col. Abdurahman Mahmoud Jasser, a veteran fighter and head of the finance and administration department of the National Security Office, passed away today. He has been under intensive medical care following his recent sickness.”

    source: shabait.com

  • idris

    Awate admin.,
    If you are an eritrean why you are not reporting the massacare of 80 afar eritreans (source sudan tribune)?
    By deliberately ignoring the issue you are siding with DIA? is not it?
    However, the people of afar will not surrander to the barbaric acts of the dictator isayas and will liberate themselves soon.
    Down with DIA and its agents

  • yegermal

    Rumors has it that Sal, haile, Serray, Mohammed and Papillon are holding a secret meeting at a plash resort to discuss ways to breathe life into the opposition movement. So, yall chill in their absence. It’s all good!
    Hangofay:)

    • haile

      …we’re back:)

      • yegermal

        WCB:)

  • Ghezae Hagos

    Selam Haile, Yegermal and all,

    “..It just shows that Eritreans are by nature very forgiving:)….If we hadn’t end up with the SCUNIS CHECKAN GWANA, who many implants (by nature not loyal to Eritrea and its people) and few gullible or opportunist Eritreans call “president”, we were ready to move on even with all that we had endured under Ethiopian regimes..”

    It is very true, yigermal. One of the most remarkably odd thing about Issayas Afwerki is his un-Eritreanness in every sense of the word. His cruelty, his holding of long-forgotten grudges, his uncompromising stands, his complete ‘lack of Eb’ or ‘Hilina’. Every one of them complete opposites of quintessential Eritrean traits.

    When Eritreans always affix their every move with that perennial concern that is ‘what-will-happen-to-the-nation’ (remember G-15), our untouchable Mafioso’s last concern is the nation. That is why he always beats us. Again remember the message from De Niro’ Al Capone. We will never ever know the depths of his dark, dark soul, we won’t…This is guy is ‘an absolute horror of a human being’…he gives new meaning to ‘keyih sheytan…’ poor Eritrawi…

    • hizbawi

      Gezae, you are punishing old people who sacrificed their entire youth to serve the nation. i ask you, sir, what is the difference from what you are doing and from what Isaias is doing?
      i don’t mean to play semantics, rather, i hope you understand what you are doing. i see no difference.

      • Hayat Adem

        I do understand and do see the difference b/n what Gezae and Isaias are doing. Isias is bleeding the nation and taking the entire generation down to the hell. Gezae is trying to contribute his part to slow and stop that bleeding and nosedive acceleration to disaster.

      • Ghezae Hagos

        Ok, Hizbawi, let me give you one difference. You can ask me and I can answer you. You can criticize me. You can’t ask Issayas anything; and if you criticize him, he WILL KILL you.

        • hizbawi

          Gezae, there is no worst death than fighting all your life to make your country independent, then, at old age, fighting to be dependent on another country. So, actually it worst. think about it!

    • yegermal

      Gezae,

      DIA for sure has sold his soul to some kind of sheytan. How else can a human being turn so evil? God deliver us from this brute!

    • Belay

      My respect to you sir, Isayas Afeworki has millions of followers at home and abroad,so ,how are all his followers going to be described. There is no proof about his Tembenay(tigray)anccesetory.By the way who can proof he or she isn’t.We all Habeshas from both countries are like sausages,if you know what i mean.We can not say with confidence,i am from this country 100%.The proof is  written allover us. Yes,we are two different countries for the last 22 years.    

      • rastaman

        Belay,

        You must have never come across this website:
        royalark.net/ethiopia/tigray5.htm

        That also explains the DEMHIT in Eritrea, The Royal Brigade of His Highness.

        respectfully

  • Elenta

    AT,
    How long you are going to allow “Asmara” to post such derogatory comments.
    How long are we going to read his bad words?
    I know you are trying to be fair , but his comments are mostly insulting and no respect to the people who disagree with him.

    He is the same person , who uses nick names like FOCUS,SPEARS, ASMARA in most of PFDJ sympathizer website, who always spent time insulting opposition and Ethiopians .

    I wonder how he communicate with his friends/family in normal conversation.

    • yegermal

      “How long are we going to read his bad words?”

      The reading part is actually optional:)

      • asmara

        A question for you:

        What is the logic behing your choosing an Amharic nick-name. Something to do with Habeshaness or what?

        • yegermal

          don’t let your imagination run wild. there is simple explanation. wanted to show off the only amharic word i know. am sure you know a whole lot more of amharic, mr/ms implant:)

        • Tamrat Tamrat

          Why did you choose Asmara instade of Asmera?

  • Sabri

    Asmara,

    Many concerned Eritreans are trying to understand the government. They are concerned on boarder issue and other national security issues. Unfortunately when they hear people like you they become terrified. What is your point? No problem if you are the supporter of the government. When you respond to the people who strongly oppose the government the best thing to encounter  your opposition is by providing facts. First of all you have to answer why you are supporting. Your diatribe doesn’t help. Come with tangible arguments instead.  what you are doing is useless not only from the oppositions point of view but even from the genuine supporters view. You think you are defending the government but you are not. 

    Sabrii

  • asmara

    YAY,

    You said, “….ነፍሲወከፍ ግንባር ግን ንፖለቲካዊ ፕሮግራሙ ኣብ ዓውዲ ኵናት ተጸሚዱ እንከሎ ክዉን ንምግባር ይጽዕር ስለዝነበረ ወተሃደራዊ ወ ጸጥታዊ ጕዳያት ኵናት ነቲ ደሞክራስያዊ ጉዳያት ንከይምዕብል ዝደቍሶ ዝነበረ እዩ ዝመስለኒ። ህግደፍ ዝተኸሎ መንግስቲ ኤርትራ ቅዋም ተጻሒፉ ህዝባዊ መንግስቲ ኤርትራ ኪትከል ሃገራዊ ምርጫታት ኪካየድ ሽዱሽተ ወርሒ ምስ ተረፎ እዩ ኣብ ናይ ዶብ ኵናት ምስ ኢትዮጵያ ኣትዩ። በዚ ምኽንያት ሎሚ ኣብ ኤርትራ ህዝባዊ መንግስቲ ዘይተመስረተ ኣብ ገድሊ ኤርትራ ዝነበሩ መራሕቲ ደሞክራስያውያን ስለዘይነበሩ እዩ ዝብህል መደምደምታ፡ ሓደ ወተሃደራዊ ትካል ደሞክራስያዊ ኪኸውን ከምዘይግባእን ኪኸውን እውን ከምዘይብሉን ብተወሳኺውን ተጋደልቲ ምስ ህዝቢ ቅዋማዊ መንግስቲ ኪምስረት ከምዝጸዓሩ ኣብ ሕሳብ ዘየእቱ ግጉይ መደምደምታ ኮይኑ እዩ ዝስምዓኒ። ንክልቲኡ ኵነታት ሓደ ዘምስሎ ሓፈሻዊ ቀንዲ ባህርይ ኵናት ንናጽነት ሃገር ወ ኵናት ንምክልኻል ናጽነት ሃገር እዩ።ህግደፍ ዝተኸሎ መንግስቲ ኤርትራ ብዝተማልአ ዓቐን ህዝባዊ መልክዕ ዘይሓዘሉ ቀንዲ ምኽንያት፡ ድሕሪ 1998 ኣብ ኵናት ወይ ሓውሲኵናት ተጸሚዱ ስለዘሎ (ከምቲ ናይ ህግሓኤ ኣብ ግዜ ገድሊ) ንወተሃደራዊ ጉዳያት ቀዳምነት ስለዝሃቦ ደኣምበር ደሞክራስያዊ ወይ ቅዋማዊ መንግስቲ ኪምስርት ስልዘይደለየ እይነበረን ንዓይ ከም ዝርኣየኒ። …”

    Well said, thank you .It is kind of refreshing to see someone with a reasonable brain and attitude to pop up here.

    You see there are few things that render the defamers, the haters and the ill-wishers useless.

    1.The actions, the intent and accomplishments of Eritrean government during the 1991-1997.

    During this time, the hard earned independence was secured using a superb Referendum (so much for accusing GOE for lack of diplomacy or knowledge of outside world), our constitution drafted, free movement exercised, freedom of press was starting to flourish. All in all, it was more than satisfactory achievement for a new nation. At that time, the direction where the government wanted for Eritrea to go was clear, the intent of the government was pure and noble. Anyone who would deny that is basically a born-idiot, or grudge driven dead meant. Even establishing SAWA was a supper thing, in bringing the whole Eritrea together. Bringing together the youth from Asmara and making him socialize with the one in Kunama, Nara, Tigre, and so on and so forth. In principle, that SAWA idea is supper.

    Now, every time you press the defamers with the above fact, they will jump in and tell you, the Eritrean government purposely started the War so as not to implement the constitution. Some of them would also say, Woyanie started the war, but Issayas is using it as an excuse. Well, the answer is in point number 2

    2. With all due respect, it is the WOYANIE junta who is not abiding by the border ruling. The Eritrean government is on the right side of justice. So, where the hell is the excuse?
    And why on earth should the Eritrean people dream of being against their own government, when their government is on the right side of justice? The defamers twist and turn, to diminish this fact
    Please realize, we are ignoring the very fact that Woyanie initiated the war in 1997, all the Tirrerra and what not. We know this.

    3. Regime or party wise, the border issue is actually the worst thing that could happen to the Eritrean government. There is no way they would dream to be part of this. If you see the flip side, the so called opposition are actually the ones who tried to and still trying to fulfill the long time held, almost buried dream , of getting an easy ride to power – through this border issue. At the expense of the Eritrean people, mind you. In short, the border issue is actually designed for two tasks, to diminish the nation hood of our nation (Woyanies objective) if possible, if not get rid of the Eritrean government (So called opposition’s objective). The Victims? The Eritrean people and the Eritrean government.

    4. Cause and Effect.

    Actually calling the issue with woyanie a simple “border issue” is way a crime in itself. I mean the intention is beyond that. Look at the following

    – Creation of migration corridor theough Ethiopia for the youth to flow buy, only thinking about the short cut to USA
    – The “we will change regime” drama of woyanie
    – The unjustified sanction on Eritrea. Literally binding Eritrea’s arms behind its back, and at the same time arming Woyanie to the brim. That is cruel
    – Extending the unjustified sanction to include things outside its mandate every year
    – The international community’s blind eye, yet agin, to Eritrea
    – Anatsu nay woyanies, day to day effort to diminish Eritrea and the Eritrean government in any possible form – 2%, sabotaging, spreading fear in the diaspora etc.

    On top of the direct effect the above would have on the day to day life of Eritreans, and the proper functioning capability of the Eritrean government, there are a lot of side effects, so complex that you can fail to realize the core reason that started everything in the first place. Remember Eritrea was betrayed and deceived by the international community before. Witnessing the same kind of betrayal yet again, would create bitterness, lack of trust, which in turn, could create its own set of side effects and on and on it propagates and cascades. Our Eritrea has been betrayed by some of its children before. The unionists have dived us into a big problem, costing us 30 years of war and thousands and thousands of Eritrean lives. Therefore it is only natural, for the government and the people to be always on guard and may be tighten some things. This in turn could disappoint the ones who are not really puppets of Woyanie, but have grievance of their own, and it goes on and on. The longer the no Pease no war goes, the further and further will seem Woyanies atrocities on Eritrea, the more impatient will be the youth of Eritrea, the more they would want to go away. Rightly so, but the government is also right in standing firm in defending the nation. The cause and effect is so vast and so wide – but so simple, it all goes down to the border issue.
    Anyone who loves his/her country – therefore should join hands and tell the woyanie and the rest of the world, that when it comes to our sovereignty we are one. Woyanie is the aggressor here; we want woyanie to get the hell out of our nation. Firm stand, no buts no ifs.
    What we should never do, if we care about Eritrea and its people, is to add fuel to already burning and suffering nation – by advocating for more sanctions, terrorizing mining companies, terrorizing the diaspora community , lying about 2% etc. If we are one of the people doing that right now, it is only the people who want to benefit from the border issue at the expense of the Eritrean people

    • yegermal

      “The actions, the intent and accomplishments of Eritrean government during the 1991-1997″

      That may be relatively true. However, credit goes to genuine Eritreans within the PFDJ leadership that were not allowing DIA to enact his long held dream of emasculating the Eritrean people. It is an open secret that DIA sparked the border war to sack real Eritrean leaders, shelf away the ratified constitution, and find his excuse-par-excellence Badme; as if Badme was not a gift given to his cousin Meles in exchange for his help in destroying a 100% Eritrean front the ELF. Since then, DIA has created an insidious intelligence machine (ala halewa sewra), mostly composed of complete outsiders(implants with or without Eritrean ancestry)and has penetrated every facet of the Eritrean society to neutralize any potential dissent. You may try to explain away the predicament Eritrea finds itself under your lord. It is what small time operatives are paid to do. But we (the Eritrean mass) know that DIA will continue wreaking havoc in Eritrea even if Badme is returned to Eritrea. It’s by now an established fact that DIA (for whatever reason) HATES the ERITREAN PEOPLE, and therefore will not stop to destroy until we stop him! Period!

      • Hameed

        Asmara,

        If a government is unable to protect its people from deceit of foreign countries, then it is a failed government. The illegal ruler of Eritrea failed in all fields of running a nation. All of us know well that when a government fails to ensure a dignified life to its people, then it has to go. Can you give me one rationl reason why you support a failed and illegal government? I will give you the reason; the only reason which makes you support such a junta is sectarianism. Shortly, you are a blind sectarian. You think Eritrea is for your sect only.

      • Haqi

        Good job yigermal. Ayashu beka geromna ezom belaeti seb

      • http://awate Sorobeti

        Dear Yegermel

        What wonders most is that the same Tegadelti who handed Bademe to TPLF on the directives of DIA, started the war to regain it and again on the orders of DIA.

    • Tamrat Tamrat

      It is true that if the youths leave Eritrea then Eritrea will be a weak nation. So if ‘woyane’ uses the coridor for the youths to leave for the west i dont see the crime commited here. After all why Eritrea imposes on its People to stay home. In Ethiopia you are free to leave ethiopia any time you want. If you dont blieve me create a coridor the way ‘woyane’ has done. If you give free Food and shelter the way ethiopia does for the eritreans, i can garantee you, you would get millions in Your camp be it near ‘badme’ or ‘zalambessa’.

      My question to you is then why do the supporters of pfdj leave Eritrea then? Why do they help their children to leave Eritrea for the west by telling story which happened on the oppressed eritreans (assuming you pfdj People dont lie)? What kind of a Message you are sending to eritrean youth who still must defend the ‘border’ while the pfdj People send their children abroad?
      Are you going to tell them it is God who chooses who remains in Eritrea and who leave for better life?

      You blame the so called international community but most of eritreans including pfdj People go to those countries. Let’s assume there is no oppresion on the mass of Eritrea and those who dont support the regime are lying, then why do pfdj supporters go to their enemy’s land? I dont understand this!! May be to convince the west that Eritrea is not like the west percives it.

      Logic and reality is running out of Your hand by speed of light.

  • Semere Andom

    Haile’s (Awate Forum) Award Acceptance Speech
    I am honored to be among the esteemed members of the forum and the notables such as Hyat Adem, Serray and Aman, on whose expense I have been honored by this award. This award reminds me of president Obama, who won the Noble prize for merely delivering an eloquent speech and here we go, another award issuing body, the AT has replicated the Nobel committee by awarding “Awate’s Ground Breaking Award” to one of the bipolar debaters of its forum for a future promise.
    But am not here to thank endless list of people who contributed to the culmination of this award, rather I will only use this opportunity to thank Asmara, whose pious ejaculations in support of GOE led to my sponteous reaction, who caught the eye of AT, who graciously bestowed upon me the honor in response to its readers’ popular choice. I am honored and in a rare moment of honesty and integrity I will do a sequel to my initial master piece
    Dear Asmara:
    If you are a young promising Eritrean Moslem and you are unable to shave your bread because you cannot afford a razor you will be asked to shave it
    If you are a Diaspora Eritrean and visit Eritrea to enjoy your hard earned cash in your country, you will be in convenienced by the lack of running water and electricity and you will interrupt that well-deserved vacation and a dip in the red sea. This is an outrage for the Diaspora community that paid dearly before the 2% was ever instituted.
    If you are an Eritrean young urbanite woman and you are beautiful and you have a sexy name like Melat or Lidya you will be put down and be rendered a maid for the cononels until you embrace the life of hardship.
    My recurring, notorious pattern of dysfunctionally abusive gaffs towards the opposition is anchored on their failure to make my dreams of roaming my country freely, without apprehension and desperate seeking hideouts.
    If all this was possible in my country, I mean all the in conveniences that Eritreans face day in and day out are made thing of the past, the other issues, of who started the war, how many Eritreans are in prison does not appeal to me and I would be in your side. After all, Eritreans waged the revolution to define their own borders and with avoiding the in conveniences that comes with not having a clearly defined borders.
    I have a nagging feeling that the award maybe retracted by the AT, if am found to be not worthy of this prestige as the soft spot that I have for the PFDJ may trigger an episode of series of attacks.
    Last but by no means least, I like to thank AT for its courage for passing over the other nominees like Serray, Hayat and Aman and instead bestowing it to me, with the full knowledge of the fact that I may regress to my old games as I force my eyes to dart from truth to falsehood and again from falsehood.
    And to the other member I can only promise this: the award will “embolden” me to be more mean and by mean, I mean both average in deciphering the truth and unfair. And embolden is one of AT’s missions

    Thanks
    Haile X

    • haile

      haha Semere A…promoted to head secretary…wonderful speech! You just forgot to mention hatnoy dignity in the list of esteemed enablers to be thanked. Without her, I would never have been able to see everyone for what they really are. :-)

      • yegermal

        How about abayey conscience? It constitutes the basis of our humanity and if we exercise it at all times (as in always), we can ensure our continuity as free people.

    • yegermal

      It just shows that Eritreans are by nature very forgiving:)….If we hadn’t end up with the SCUNIS CHECKAN GWANA, who many implants (by nature not loyal to Eritrea and its people) and few gullible or opportunist Eritreans call “president”, we were ready to move on even with all that we had endured under Ethiopian regimes. But nooo, the demented DIA during his 30 years in meda had been concocting and perfecting a more cruel and devastating regime from which we will never arise as intact people! I hate to say that if we do not fight back with all our might, it won’t be long before DIA declares “mission accomplished”!

  • asmara

    This is for the “Hidrat”

    (Actually it is for all the Unionists and woyanie subordinates, here. Hayat, you too are in )

    You don’t seem to get it, do you? I sense some kind of retarded-ness here. I thought I conveyed a precise message to you last time. How can I be any clearer? But, hey, who am I kidding? Your head is deep inside Woyanie’s behind, there is no way you would get it. And I don’t see any chance for you making it out of your delhamet in one piece.
    And don’t you run away wild and develop a false hope here, believing people are eating each other out and the load is off of you. Don’t you think, even for a second, that people (Hagerawyan and opposition alike) are forgetting your attachment and chronic subordination tendencies towards Woyanie. You are the hated bunch here and everywhere.
    Why you put yourself in this low position and chose to be Woyanie’s Step-Mat, is beyond me. And above all, coming here, shamelessly acting as Woyanie more than the Woyanie themselves, is mind blowing
    You see, the whole of my focus was and still is on you and your group. And it dates way back, since you set foot in this forum. By now, you should have realized I am so focused and dedicated

  • Hayat Adem

    Araya: questions and questions for you-
    1- Last time I checked Sodere was farther than Bole in relation to Meqele. If Weyane could inconvenience you in Sodere, then why not at Bole?
    2- If a Tigriyan cashier asked you and your family to pay in dollars, then Weyane is evil; if the same Tigryan cashier lets you pay in Birr after 5 years, Weyane is nicer because it no longer feels powerful. You condemned them on both situations. What does that particular Tigryan cashier need to do for you so that you will be able grateful to Weyane? BTW, it must be one of the rarest odds of coincidence that you could still find the same Tigiyan cashier at that exact place after 5 years, only she is now less TPLF:)
    3- Do you know that Ethiopia has 3+ million ethnic-Somali citizens, and you are not an Ethiopian citizen because of your pride in Eritrean identity and your other pride in U.S. identity? How is it possible for you to say ‘kabana somal qeribomukhum diyom’? Is it fair to always invoke zimdiNa when you only want to take some advantage?
    4- You are born in Addis; your parents live in Addis; and yet, you are too ashamed to have an Ethiopian identity and want to be seen as a proud Eritrean; and yet carry a U.S. passport proudly; you go to Ethiopia for vacation…How does that complicated situation work for you, man?

    • Tamrat Tamrat

      Hayat, he is the eritrean we sacrificed millions to be as one of us. So he is a spoiled brat. What he doesnt know is that a somali can be treated better than him if there was a somali speaker on the desk. Other wise what tplf has done between 1991-1998 could create such misunderstanging for quite some times in the future. Otherwise a forgeiner is a forgeiner so it has to be treated as one. The time for extra baggasj by speaking amharic or tigrinya has gone for good.

      Other wise we ethiopians are now more somalians than eritreans by any measurement.

  • Haqi

    Asmara
    Bejaka halewlow aytibel. Ezi sebay Eko atseliluka

    • haile

      Haqi

      Gidefa eba suq bel…hiji’s were menTelina tegomgima ketekhudid eya :-)

      On a serious note, asmera seems to be perturbed that I addressed the the “thing” robbing my nation and people to death a REGIME. That was however meant to be fair and less prejudiced than the other descriptors the world use. natna seraqi endyu’mo nmen knhibo? It is hard and would amount to pathetic to call an entity:

      – That apply for a loan to build a road on behalf of the nation state.

      – Then kicks out NGO and denies its citizens the right to engage in business. Hence, making its party owned business the only entity to get the contract to build this “road” that the state has borrow money to pay. And allows its “companies” not only evade state tax but sells 09 corporation’s inventory receipts to other small retailers to be used to defraud the nation state from collecting tax revenues!

      – It then holds the nation’s youth at gun point to a stark choice of either to work for these party owned company for free to complete the “road” or leave the country.

      – Now, the State in debt, the youth broken and lost, the road idle and the shameless “entity” comes back to tell you that the whole world is jealous of its “independent path”

      Haqi, never mind the butler, he hasn’t got balls, just melhas Tiel :-)

      The “entity” runs the diaspora communities through butlers/operatives. It drum beats (literally) for festivals. Many people go to experience their cultural heritage. But, if you note carefully, there has never been a diaspora community that have seen a penny of the proceeds to develop itself. Because, the “entity” mirrors its modes operand of how it impoverished the Eritrean nation state at home. The festivals and other such activities are organized by “shimagle awahahadit bealat” and is not part of the community. So, when you audit the community, funds raised through this shimagle would never show up (which is the vast amount of money communities raise) and is siphoned off. What is happening is that the “entity” by controlling decision making at community level it contracts out community activities that raise funds to “independent” shimagle that are not accountable to the community itself but the regime.

      So, if people in your community have spent, say $100,000 in connection to a festival, your community would see $0 from it because the full entertainment and the sub-contracting + sub-letting revenues are that of the “shimagle” or an emissary of the REGIME.

      Asmara is just a butler, and all he/she needs is attention and a pat on the back. Otherwise, the regime has driven the Eritrean State to ACTUAL bankruptcy (Hagos kisha: hgdef nmengsti yEwdo eyu:-) ) and has driven Eritrean communities in the diaspora into the ground using the exact the same tactic.

      Now, can the butler tell us why our nation was put through so much mud and dirt for your REGIME to fully recognize the Somali Federal Government? oh…forget it butler, just make me and haqi shahee with klte manka shukor each….

      So, Haqi, where was I? The Eritrean State has no external revenue generating capacity as we speak, nor does any community. The regime controls decision making, subcontracts the work, and then siphons off its proceeds…

      Can asmera have balls to say to his/her community board that the social function fundraiser be done by the community itself and not an external “shemagle” and then the community can use the funds to develop itself and assist the nation state in the homeland? Neigh….butlers just say “…you’re right Sir, how high should I jump Sir, shall I hold an umbrella for you Sir?…” and dirty mouth anyone they think is being mean to the lordship… “ewa’E set lebet elka eya adi ember, Regime hadiguwa entekeydu asmara butler beyen rEsu kekayda!”

      Regards

      • asmara

        Nice,

        Run, run, run, Mr. Idiot. You see, you are fake. You jump from one topic to another. You seem to be looking for a shoulder to cry on, for a support to hang on, for a skirt to hide in. You see my comment is down there; your reply is here, hiding behind Haqi’s skirt. That is Woyanie stile of a fight.

        That was you, now let me show you the difference between you and me:

        You asked me this

        “…In comments that span years and probably number close to 1000 that I made here, I challenge you to find me 1 short sentence that I wrote to express support to the “regime…..”

        And I replied

        “…No, I am not going to go searching for that. Because I know there is none. And I am not going to give you what is not yours, good or bad. I am Eritrean, after all….”

        You see, I give you credit when you earn it. And slap you silly for you are acting like an idiot. No lying, no twisting, no fabricating.

        And what do you do? You go around looking for a skirt to hide in, or a Unionist to bend to.

        Shame!

      • asmara

        Ex-Butler,

        How about being your, the following crap you threw at at last time? Watch it now, your past comments are still here….

        “….The Ethiopia Eritrea border issue is legally settled and all there is to it is for Ethiopia to leave occupied territories for resumption of normal relationship……”

        Please zoom in on:
        “….all there is to it is for Ethiopia to leave occupied territories…..”

        Do it again, and ZOOM in on:

        “….all there is to it is…..”

      • Haqi

        Haile
        Entay emo terifiwo hijis emni midrbay kem humum ember. Sinesirat Geru debate ente zigebir tsubuk neru ezi seb gin nay awalu zereba gerka halewlow tray koinu terifu, gin nayti cidi bealege merahi hgdef wesidu. Ajoka haile educate the public , it’s every Eritrean duty

  • asmara

    Ex -Butler, I am over here, why are you hiding behing Hidrats dress and hiding your reply down there?

    Anyway here is the deal:

    You said :

    “…In comments that span years and probably number close to 1000 that I made here, I challenge you to find me 1 short sentence that I wrote to express support to the “regime”…..”

    Like I said you are easy. No, I am not going to go searching for that. Because I know there is none. And I am not going to give you what is not yours, good or bad. I am Eritrean, after all. BUT, GET THIS, YOU NEVER MENTION ED OR USED THE WORD “REGIME” BEFORE EITHER, PERIOD! , if there were any, they were very few, and never did you address the government nor the people, standing by their government or otherwise, in any disrespectful way. Now, you are singing it, in every sentence in every comment. THAT IS WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. You thought people were accusing you for being a supporter of the government? Dude, that is embarrassing and idiotic.
    When you were talking about the border, you were making sense and you were JUST. Hence people were warming up to you , irrespective of what you call yourself (Supporter, opposition, hagerawi, anchiwa, whatever), got that? Again, you are easy. You fall for that ex-butler thing. Nah, you got to earn to be hagerawi (“Supporter” , to you)
    Few things are going against you, all your own making.
    1) Lately you seem to have lost your sense of direction. Or you wanted to go in certain direction but failed to see people are getting off your bus. Except for a few idiots (Hidrat, Hayatt, Gezae, the guy with Amharic nick- name). What does that tell you?
    2) You don’t seem to know your audience. You don’t seem to realize why people were drawn to you before (Already explained above.). For instance, if I tell you I travel to my country all the time, your listing of the lack of electricity is not information to me. On the other hand, it becomes a “WOW” sensation, say, to the Hidrat dude, who never set foot in Eritrea for a while. And that kind of news is food for his soul. So, if your audience is meant to be that dude, then you are pointing in the wrong direction. You are trying to fool those idiots, by pretending to present new thing here, and new set of target. Oh, that Silent majority stuff, phew! That is not a new thing, we heard about it a long, long time ago. So you are either lagging behind (Again, you did not do your homework) , or your audience are again, those idiots. We will get back to that silent majority stuff some other time. No new thing dude. Like I said, you are marching towards USELESNESS!,
    3) This new found realization or hallucination is covering your eyes, so much so that you don’t seem to fully read what people are writing. Go back and re-read what I wrote to you, to SAAY, and to Tamrat Tamrat on our first correspondence, you would see clearly what my stand is. You would also see haw I was addressing you in a respectful way. I will summarize the core points of those comments here shortly, but let’s clean you up of your crap first.
    You said,
    “….Asmara, where are your balls? Isn’t that why you are having hard time to believe that an Eritrean can speak for him/her self…..”
    Dude, really? Do you even understand that you always contradict yourself, trip and fall on obstacles of your own creation? When talking about butlers, you are talking about Eritreans and not about foreign elements, like the British butlers, or our friends to the south, right? You see, on another thread I told you this: you got to stop casting Eritreans as stupid people. Most of those who call themselves opposition, and who have been calling themselves that for decades, still counting, with nothing to offer to the Eritrean people, made that mistake. Mind you, the Eritrean government, and those standing beside it are the ones in power, as far as I know. But, your so called opposition never fail to call them stupid and some other names. Wey gud. Dude, here is a piece of advice for you – that never workd, and never will it work. You should do your homework before you let yourself dive in into that idiocy
    “….Why on earth do you flatter yourself? The regime will be gone, all its publicly known butlers will go into hiding and we will be left with all of Eritrea and its problems…..”
    Well, what can I say? You are in your own right to day dream. Day Dreamers increased by one(Yours is actually hallucination) That is all. Oh, we also say “Dude, afka kelbi yishinelu)
    Now to the bragging part:
    “….Haile is a veteran here and would tire you out to dizziness…..”
    Dude, so is “Asmara”. The only reason you did not notice my presence all these years is because I am not like you. Meaning I am not a know- it-all ****** like you. At times you are a statistician, at times you are an engineer, at times you are a politician, at times , you are a doctor, at times you are a butler , at times you are a fisherman, at times you are expert on mining, at times you think you are God. And unlike you, I don’t cast my comment on anything and everything. Only on the relevant things and only on the things I know.

    Let us go back to my old comments to you and others: Pay attention now:
    To you:
    “….You are damn right the majority of Eritreans love their country and their people and everything starts from that. Meaning anyone who does good or any one whose intent is to do good for Eritrea is hagerawi and have the blessing of the Eritrean people. Meaning, the Eritrean people clearly know the intent of the Eritrean government and are on its side by choice….”
    asmara on July 19, 2013 at 7:13 am said:
    “…The Eritrean people are God fearing, country loving fair, just and intelligent people. They base their thinking and gouge their choice based, solely on Eritrea and the Eritrean people. They don’t base their thinking based on government, junta, or group. You got to love them for that. Everything revolves around country, people and of course God. If they believe you are standing for Eritrea and the Eritrean people, even if it is just and INTENT – they would give you a chance. On the other hand, if you are fake, pretentious, lier, and above all if you stand, even slightly against the well-being of the hard –earned nation of ours, then they will not give you the time of the day. It is that simple. If you are Eritrea, and if you go to Eritrea frequently as you claim to, then you will not miss that……”
    See, that addresses the Eritrean people and respects the choice they make. That says a lot about the Eritrean people, more than it does about the government. That is one of the differences between you and the majority of the Eritrean people (“Butlers”, to you)
    That also tells you that nobody here is picking on you just for saying you oppose the Eritrean government. We don’t give a squat about that. Join the losers club. You seem to have been in the right direction before, for addressing the disastrous thing eating up our nation – the border issue, but now you are flip flopping – and therefore we are smacking your sorry a**.

    • haile

      Asmara butler:)…. calm down! After all that saber rattling of a crazed butler, the regime is on its way out. For certain…..Just curious though, how do you know who you’re corresponding with? Your butler suite is strictly work only attire…Eritrean people enabelka bzeytfelto hzbi aytfesaH.

  • Araya

    Haile, let me give you advice. I think you need to take a break. You are in here 24/7 and all you have to show is that Amanual and you sound a gun without a bullet! You finished your entire blank bullet on appeasing the dead oppositions. I know them they are all over Addis, I talk to them, they are there to cash in on FEZAZ weyane. That is the truth
    Take a time off till you get new ideas, right now, you have none. I tried to engage you by asking legit questions and I am sorry I wasted my time. At least you could have showed some respect by attempting to answer me. But it is okay. You see, you won’t see me till August 26, I am taking a break.
    anyway good luck with your opposition. do you think PIA disapointed you, try them.

    • Haqi

      araya
      I urge you to take an extended vacation untill your Belae seb demigod dead removed otherwise you will be knocked over and over lol.

      I demand awate staff step in and stop the unfair fight, haile vs fanatic cult members. Araya lemlem SELAM Asmara pls go to dehai or alenalki. Lolkkk

  • asmara

    Sweet!
    I guess it is Haile’s turn to try to give mouth-to- mouth to the ever useless, good for nothing, still-born idiots, who call themselves oppositions and their websites. And boy! The way they are sucking at it is very hilarious.

    So, let me get this straight: It only took a few comments from “Asmara”, for Haile to bare his A** and bend for the Hidrat Dude (Bend for Woyanie – by Proxy)? Simply amazing
    As for the born-again Haile, well, please help me say:
    – And then, comes the NEW-IDIOT!
    – And DIVE he goes, at a speed of lightening, into the well-known USELESSNESS!
    What a shame! But, we are equally to blame. “Border, Border “ intebeles, lebam mesiluna naida abzihnalu. Gina, Seiti Keshis, wehale, wehale intebeluwas , metshaf kidus tihatsib koinu negru.

    – Who would have guessed this due would drop the border issue like it is Hot, do a 180° u- turn and, start to sing “The regime this”, the regime that?
    This is what he had to say, with this unbelievably degraded new brain of his, to cast his new found idiotic, low and pathetic stand:

    “….The Ethiopia Eritrea border issue is legally settled and all there is to it is for Ethiopia to leave occupied territories for resumption of normal relationship……”

    Please zoom in on:
    “….all there is to it is for Ethiopia to leave occupied territories…..”

    Do it again, and ZOOM in on:

    “….all there is to it is…..” WODAJE!

    – Who would have guessed this dude would shamelessly trade the respect every one (I mean every one) was giving him, for his firm and true stand, for a handful fake praises from the well-known anti-Eritrea and woyanies subordinates? Look at this:

    “Hallelujah! “Goes, the Woyanie Side kick (The Hidrat Dude)
    “A Blessing in disguise! I don’t know whether to praise or curse “Asmara””, goes the 2% fool (Gezae)
    (And the funny part is, haile goes and visits Mr. Google, damps all the freely available stuff here, and the idiots go “BRAVO”….and we say, huh? Did these people actually go to school?). The new-idiot visits Mr. Google, and other Eritrean websites, dumps here what he thought is bad, with the intent of creating drama and sensation , and the idiots who have never set foot in Eritrea for decades, go “Hallelujah! “, and we say, huh? What have you been opposing all these time then? Again we wonder. Again we say – hatred is eating these people out. And we feel sorry for them

    – Who would have thought this dude is EASY, so much so that it takes only a slight pop on his nut, (By non-other than me. What do you know, I am famous all of a sudden) would turn him into a nut case. Dude, pardon me, I did not know you were right on the edge. You looked solid to me before. And I guess his nuts are hanging out so much so that, it only takes only a nudge from our Araya, to send him frantic and singing “I love Woyanie”, “Hidrat, please take me to mama Ethiopia” Pathetic!
    Hold on a second, did I say EASY? I forgot to add childish. “Asmara” tezaribuni ilkas Korfef!, Araya tezaribuni ilkas kura, Selam ageb ilatni ilkas, tserfi, Lemlem tezarebetni ilkas

    This is what SAAY had to say about Haile’s new found passion “…Haile was raining hell on us opposition before, but now the PFDJiets (ISSAYASSISTS) pushed him towards us…” Nice. Simply nice! Common saay, have some respect on this guy – he used to have a stand before, you know? Well, before he changed in to this new flip flop that is. But, he must have missed your insult, somehow.
    By the way Haile, Somewhere in one of your one million and one comments you are damping here lately, you said this (haile on July 24, 2013 at 9:20 pm said:)
    “….Secondly, there was the same misconception, partly due to my lacking above, by asmara who equated my argument to that of Dawit Meconen, someone with Tigray phobia. And, I was planning to clarify that point and you beat me to it…..”
    Dude, let us get one thing straight here, I did not equate you to Dowit. What I said was, Dowits nonsense at least has an end objective. Yours is simply hallucinating. You need to slap yourself awake, will you.
    Finally, to serious stuff: You care about Eritrea? You care about the Eritrean people? Then focus on the border issue that is eating our nation up, and do your share to help solve it! If you have any skil, use it to drive the stinky Woyanie to abide by law, and get the hell out of our land! It is only just. Short of that, you are useless! Don’t fall into that trap of complainers, who have been calling themselves opposition for 3 decades, simply day dreaming and contributing nothing to Eritrea. Get away from that.

    • Araya

      I never thought Haile would bend for Amanual. Way god ale tigre.
      I can understand Aman’s love for weyane, hack they paid for his vacation but how can you explain Haile’s Shinfla? There is a saying in Amharic that will describe Aman.
      Yeblt lij Eyebela Yaleqsal.

      Haile must be from oromo. Oromo takes no stand, they are on the fance.

      • Horizon

        You better learn to respect the proud Oromo people. Because they refused to be a Trojan Horse for shabia, it does not mean that they do not have dignity.
        Your main problem is your delusional and over-inflated ego that brought Eritrea to this predicament, and has made you blind to the present Eritrean awful reality. You should have known that the vast majority of Oromo people have taken a strong and unwavering stand on the side of their country, Ethiopia.

    • Haqi

      Asmara
      If I were you I wouldn’t even bother speaking to haile at all. He knocked you out multiple times.

    • yegermal

      Great tribute to scugnizzismo by an implant Eritrean scugnizzo!

  • Hayat Adem

    Selam Araya,
    You said to Haile, “The other day I read you were accusing the Eritrean government for not allowing people in to the Airport. I just came back from Addis and I tell what, my family was on rain outside socked waiting from. Ask all the TPLF on this forum, ask them about Bole Airport. When you tried to this things as only happen in Eritrea, you are making a fool out of yourself.”
    I was just side-thinking what the chances would be for an obstinate member/supporter of the Weyane being permitted to land at the Asmara airport and peacefully rejoin his relatives waiting for him outside the terminal? BTW, I would be interested to hear what your family members tell you about their conditions in Ethiopia, if you don’t mind.

    • asmara

      “….I was just side-thinking what the chances would be for an obstinate member/supporter of the Weyane being permitted to land at the Asmara airport and peacefully rejoin his relatives waiting for him outside the terminal?..”

      Does that mean you have never set foot in Eritrea? who is more Woyanie than, well – YOU?

      Mind you, this is the generous me here and am talking in a general sense, ok?, I very much know Anatsu Nay Woyanie, are not Woyanie – they are Anatsu. But for the heck of it let us just go with Woyanie for now.

      • Hayat Adem

        Selam Asmara, you are shooting for an overkill unnecessarily. No need really because I’m willing to talk to you. To answer your questions… Had been there for the best part of my life but stopped since the arrest of Aster.kab biHijji, PFDJ mis algesse minalbat!!! I have been visiting Ethiopia back and forth, though, and that appears to remain my next best situation until regime change is effected in Eritrea. Hopefully, you will be able to join hands for that cause in the near future.

        • asmara

          ummmmm, interesting! Indeed I tried to kill an already dead body

          So anyway, back to your first time sorta of personal stuff(Lately, I seem to somehow managed to press the nuts of people here. look what I managed to bring out an “ex-butler”, out of our golden “Border issue” boy):

          So, it only takes a family member in prison for one to abandon his nation, and go all the way to be Woyanie’s side-kick? Nah! nobody would buy that. Some people are naturaly-born-subordinates. You do realize woyanie is craping on our land and is keeping our nation hostage, with the intent of diminishing our nation hood, our dignity and what not, right? Regardless of Aster’s imprisonment, there is no justification for your type of action of abandoning ones nation, working for the over throw of your government, and worst of all there is no justification for anyone to be the Bit** of the very aggressor violating ones country. None! Your kind of action falls under the category of those with “Personal Issue”, as compared to “zikoreyu, ex-butlers, seb kim of 1981, etc, you know? You can work your butt off for the release of your family member from prison, but your setting out for regime change just because someone you know is in prison is idiotic.

          You also said “….kab biHijji, PFDJ mis algesse minalbat!!! “, “minalbat”? nice!

          Anyway, don’t you feel shame to claim you are standing for the cause (Whatever that means), while sitting in the denn of the agresson, your own pimp, the Woyanie? don’t you people feel shame?
          That will take us back to the original arrangement – “Anatsu nay woyanie”, it is then!

          • Hayat Adem

            Selam Asmara,
            By “shooting for an overkill”, what I meant was you were deploying excessive resources more than necessary for any intended victory. And that is the standard definition. You are just firing bullets astray making purposeless dints everywhere. That shows pretty much recklessness and insecurity.tiyitka aytiwedi’E maletay eyu neyru! feraH ayHazka, ilom lebamat!
            There are a lot of things you said wrongly assuming that I said certain things but they are too important to clarify; therefor, I prefer not to waste time on them.
            You said, “Some people are naturaly-born-subordinates.” I’m not sure if becoming or the likelihood of becoming subordinate is a gene thing, but I know him when I see one. The regime rides on the back so many subordinates. And if I’m not corresponding right now with Isayas Afeworki himself, then you make a good one. Haile has not named you “the butler” for nothing. But, I don’t suspect it has something to do with your blood. I think you have been unknowingly trained to be a butler; like Pavlov’s dog you are conditioned to be one. Asmara, yours is not a problem without a solution, though. It only means so work of disambiguation is needed to be done. You can regain the freedom of being a curious piece of human being like anyone else. Or you have the right to remain a conditioned dog should that be your fall back comfort zone.
            I could see a smile of releif on your face up on reading my line “kab biHijji, PFDJ mis algesse minalbat!!!” Sorry to disappoint you but the ‘minalbat’ expression was meant to point to my going to Eritrea again, not to the going out of the regime. Like Haile, I do believe with certainty that the regime is on its death bed. I even have an analytical guess of time range regarding how long or short this abnormal regime would hang on on power. It is just a guess based on weighing and quantifying some known factors (and there are, and there can be so much unknowns), so I’m not claiming here to cut out a scientific prediction of end-time for PFDJ, but however shadowy, I can post it on-demand, should I be requested by you or curious readers. Who knows it might play an eye opener role to help you get a sense of the remaining time.

          • asmara

            You need to Correct something here:

            You said this

            “…you think Weyane and its supporters are anatsu……”

            Woyanie = the Junta currently leading Ethiopia. All are Ethiopians
            Anatsu Nay Woyanie = Eritreans, who shamelesly are siding with woyanie against Eritrea.

            You need to get that right.

            As for vulgarity and insults, nisikin iwun zigedefkin yeblkinin.

        • asmara

          Ummmmm, interesting, a full paragraph was wasted to explain the definition of something which is pretty much clear. You see, that “..Indeed I tried to kill an already dead body…” was a standalone thing. And it was not meant to reflect your “overkill”, more to reflect the emotion you tried to generate, mentioning Aster, and your pathetic reason for abandoning Eritrea. Just to point out you are an already dead thing. Being Woyanies anchiwa also renders you a dead meat. So, no need for me to throw or shoot anything at you.
          So, you too want Haile’s support here?

          You see, an Eritrean who goes all the way and chose to be Woyanie side kick, and wiggle its tail and provide its behind to be slapped Woyanie style, should never, never volunteer to talk about butlers and subordinates and stuff like that.

          • Hayat Adem

            Asmara:
            On Aster and the dying regime…
            1) if you think she was arrested for a crime committed, then you must able to explain what that crime was and convince me.
            2) If you don’t care about her arrest or the crime involved with her arrest because she is one, she represents herself and her family only, I may not understand how that kind of mind-set works for some folks, but I know such individuals, so that will not be a shocking surprise to me. I can live with it but will never buy that is so because you care more about Eritrea.
            3) If you believe injustice was done on her and family that you would never have wished happened but she is just one person, and you want to move on and think about Eritrea, then you are innocently in to offer your back for a free ride service for the bad guys.
            4) When it comes to a naked injustice, the issue of one family is not too small to be ignored or if you do, you can not be taken serious on any bigger national issues you may think are more important.
            5) PFDJ’s bad hands work both inductively and deductively. They abuse and destroy individuals; they mismanage and destroy the country. everyone loses.
            6) Everyone dies. Regimes die, too. It is the surest end game forr everyone. Some or many times death, especially a political one, is self inflicted. There are times you hit a point where you either change or self destruct. Time to reform the regime is no more. It is only death on the waiting. And bad regimes die bad death.
            7) Why do you want to accompany a regime dying badly, Asmara? Why? Hesse said (not exactly word for word): “I will not destroy myself in order to find a secret behind the ruins.” You will not find anything worthy of your support by defending this bad regime, Asmara.

          • asmara

            This was never about Aster. You are simply trying to divert the flow away from the main point and the main questions (typical characteristic of cheaters).

            It started with me asking you (Wondering) as to why you are romancing with Woyanie, while woyanie is playing games with our nation. To justify your actions, you brought Aster here (The first time you added personal thing in this forum. Mind you, you are an individual who hides its gender, so that was a big leap). And I told you, that is not reason enough to go all the way and sell your own country. See, I did not say anything positive or negative regarding Aster. Actually this is what I said, in a general sense, as to what your actions should be when someone close to you is put in prison or harmed.

            “….You can work your butt off for the release of your family member from prison but your setting out for regime change just because someone you know is in prison is idiotic…..” and then I pointed out to you, yet again, that Aster’s condition alone, is not a justification for you to be a gate keeper of Woyanie, while your nation is at odds with and being violated with Woyanie. Actually, there is no reason, whatsoever for your to go and stand with Woyanie against your nation. That is treason

            You see, YOU are the one talking about Aster and doing your own kind of assessment as to what my reaction would be like, if you have to throw that thing here and crate a sensation.

            Again, you have to explain to us here, to the Eritrean people and to ERITREA as to why you are doing what you are doing. Because we are not digging it.

          • Hayat Adem

            Asmara,
            If you are not pointing a gun at my head, how are you going to get me buy your point by insulting? And if the purpose of any discussion is not meant to earnestly give and/or take ideas, what is it then? Why do you have to waste your time to show us your all vulgarity? You are an interesting piece of human being:you think Weyane and its supporters are anatsu; you want them to leave the “occupied” territory- great! How do you want to do it? You don’t have the force or the means to get them do it; you don’t have the manner for negotiation and diplomacy; The only resource you have to mobilize is, the verbal weapon of mass destruction- tSerfi. If our 1998 tanks, artilleries and generals were not scary enough to make the Weyanes retreat from Badime, how do you your tSerfi to help regain it? The last thing you want to do if you are seeking the support of Eritreans to regain the territories lost is to win them back. And you think tSerfi can get you there?
            You know why I’m happy to see you around saying all the things you say? You are a good living example to show how bad higdefites are. I would say: do you know what kind of people higdefites are? Look at Asmara.
            I always try hard to see and understand the key points coming from any discussant regardless of agreement or disagreement. That’s what I was trying to get from you, too. The feeling I get is, though, at times, as if I’m watching a toddler in a water splash game. At times, as if I’m chasing a monkey. (Wrong guess!It was not me who did that in New York:)
            I’m sure you are not a monkey, but you are jumping fast from tree to tree making yourself a difficult target that is moving too fast from getting shot down. I can’t imagine more tiresome work than to put oneself on a constant running mode! So, in the end, the option for me is to give up and let the monkey go.
            I think, one person does it better with you. Good luck, Haile!!!

          • asmara

            Right!

            So, we dropped that Aster thing already?

            You still did not address the question I have been asking you from the very beginning. Try again

            – What is the justification for you to stand guard for Woyanie, while Woyanie is violating our Eritrea?

            – How come you always make it your duty to jump in in defense of Woyanie, whenever people knock its head?

            – How come you don’t crash and fall out of acute shame for siding with woyanie, violating Eritrean sovereignty, against your own country? I mean, how do you do it?

    • asmara

      And, what do you think the following (From Haile’s comment – turned article above)

      “…..They have convinced themselves that we, in the opposition, don’t have family members that we talk to every day. Family members who tell us what is going. They have convinced themselves (or they would like to fool themselves) that everyone who visits Eritrea is a supporter of the government….” imply?

      It is an accidental addmittance by the owners of this forum that, all Eritreans, including the so called opposition, zikoreyu, even woyanie subordinates, who shamelesly try to sell our Eritrea for a mere dish of Kitffo, etc – are actually allowed to go to their country freely at any time. Don’t worry, no 2%. Unless you are one of those danger to our national security, any one is welcome. Even those who harmed Eritrea in some small level are welcome with a simple task of filling a tasa form. ONLY IN OUR ERITREA!,

      What does Haile’s (aka.Ex-Butler)frequent travel to Eritrean mean to you? He keeps on telling us his heartwas and iswith those who call themselves opposition, whose real task is to kiss woyanie’s behind.

      And by the way, how come you make it your bussiness to jump in and stand guard in defence of Woyanie and Ethiopia every time one happens to mention them?

      • haile

        Asmara (active butler:)

        I sense chinqet in your tone and domineer, a very poor re-group and attack maneuver IMO. Your manured substance aside, let me assist you in a small way. In comments that span years and probably number close to 1000 that I made here, I challenge you to find me 1 short sentence that I wrote to express support to the “regime”. So, if they’re blaming you for losing Haile, throw this little fact to them and tell them to leave you alone to carry on your butler duties. Mine is sustained use of information forum, to illicit self-recognition among all of us, so that we can act responsibly as Eritrean citizens and not just regime butlers or opposing for the sake of one.

        Asmara, where are your balls? Isn’t that why you are having hard time to believe that an Eritrean can speak for him/her self. I have my own suspicion that you’re torn apart from the inside and don’t know how to prove your balls to yourself. The opposition concept is very useful and an asset to Eritrea and Eritreans. However, it needs constant work by all of us, including you. Surely, a regime that have NOTHING to show other than what it siphons off out of hostage population, a regime REJECTED by the world over, a regime that engages in CONTRABAND as a mainstay economy, a regime that has ROBBED the nation State its past and present, a regime that have rendered the youth with NOTHING to aim for other than to flee the nation, a regime that has not graduated to BUDGETED economy after a quarter of a century in power, a regime that has locked up ANYONE that calls on it to be responsible (at home) and engages in racial slurs and polarization (in the diaspora), a regime that can be shown to be sadistic in every area that you explore, can’t be accepted by anyone willingly. Even if you were to throw it into Asmara’s faniatura (Sewer canals) I bet you that it would spit it back out.

        Why on earth do you flatter yourself? The regime will be gone, all its publicly known butlers will go into hiding and we will be left with all of Eritrea and its problems. Its dead, injured, incarcerated, impoverished, psychologically damaged, its political problems, economic melt down, social conflicts, external problems… My discussion with the opposition is to drive home such concerns and alert people that the regime is holding on by tiny threads.

        I can’t discuss such issues with an active butler, you wouldn’t have the slightest courage to stand up in the butler’s seminar to ask why is it your lordship is going to leave you without so much as a vice President, a basic constitution, a national budget, with a massively bleeding national economy due to its engagement in a wide ranging black market activity… instead will leave you with a polarized, angry, mutually mistrustful population, wide spread distribution of arms to the civilians, a nation with no revenue mechanisms other than the mineral sector (controlled by outsiders), international conflicts, foreign armed groups in the country…

        Asmara (active butler), why don’t you tell your self-appointed lordship to stick it up…. and come and join the masses. It doesn’t need much common sense, this is not about Haile, Asmara, Selam, Aman… this is about how to awaken the butlers before it is too late.

        You obviously, still don’t have the courage to think and act as a self-respecting citizen, stop swimming in the dirty regime’s sewer canals, wash yourself, freshen-up a bit and join the crowd. I feel sorry to see you that you have to put your brain to waste in order to serve a regime that doesn’t think of you any more than a headless gilia (butler):-) wake up ma man…Haile is a veteran here and would tire you out to dizziness.

        Now, your (border border entebele…) was funny:) true say! It gave me an idea to put out a warning:

        Ya all butlers: the reason Haile supports Eritrea is because of his true appreciation of its beauty, potential and greatness. Nothing to do with your self-appointed lord-shifta hybrid. His border views are for Eritrea, don’t confuse them to be for your mafia.

        Ya all opposition: the reason Haile opposes the eye sore regime is for reasons above, don’t be fooled like the butler and then cry regime, regime entebele…

        The butlers are few and beholden to small personal interests, the opposition are many but still lack vision and credible leadership. The least Eritreans can do is recognize that iti wray kabana zhalf aykonen…and to start asking questions is a sound start.

        • http://awate Amanuel Hidrat

          Haile,

          I don’t think you need to waste your valuable time in responding to “Asmara.” He has no any decency and respect. He has only derogatory words in his vocabulary basket. Frankly speaking he need to visit a clinical psychologist/psychiatrist to advice and give him some behavioral therapy to change hi manners. He hasn’t any balls…and if he had any by any chance, he dropped them to his master.

          • haile

            Selam Aman,

            I think we need to be mindful of the fact that asmara is a terrified butler. It is going to be a challenge, but I also wanted to give him/her the chance to clear the deck by way of challenging their self-imposed “butler” mentality and hasten asmara’s process to self actualization.

            Trust me, asmara is harmless….just bad mannered, that is all:-)

    • Araya

      Hayat, I did not say at mekele airport, I said at Addis Airport, there is a big difference. This days, TPLF are losing their grip every day. And finally there is a relief holding that orange document, you know the one TPLF gave to all Eritreans. The orange card shows that you are not from Tigray but from Eritrea and trust me, right now, I rather carry that orange card than being identified as Tigray.
      Hayat, I have no problem sharing anything you want, I will share.
      I was born and raised in Addis, although I refused to carry Addis’s ID card, it could have saved me serious money if I had the ID card but my Eritrean pride comes first. My family, they have mix feelings. My mom is more forgiving she keep saying “ Tegagyom” than my dad; he can’t stand the TPLF gungs. About five years ago I decided to take my family for a little treat to Sodere. Once we arrived at the gate, there were five Somalians in front of us and the Tigryan casher let them pay in Ethiopian Birr. When it was our turn to pay, rightly, I was asked to pay in dollars, which I have no problem with since I was carrying USA passport but the casher wanted all my family members to pay in dollars. The casher was claiming that my parents were foreigners. We had no choice but to pay in dollars. My dad wasn’t shay though he told the casher
      Kabanas etom deqi somal Qeribomuka; Dahan!
      But this year I did the same thing, a trip to Sodere and this time around I was preparing to pay in dollars, to my surprise I was the only one who was asked to pay in dollars and all my family members paid in birr and no question asked. So, what I am saying is that the Tigryans are coming to the earth slowly. They don’t bother you as much as they use to. They have come to realize that power will not be forever and they are becoming nicer.

      • yegermal

        Can’t stand implants like you that have rendered Eritreaness a commodity they can buy and sell at whim!

      • Horizon

        What would you call a person who is proud of his Eritreaness with an American passport in his pocket to be on the safe side, leaves behind his parents and relatives in a safe and secure place called Addis Ababa/Ethiopia, abhors carrying Addis ID because he can afford to pay in American dollars, avoids setting foot in his Eritrea for all the reasons one can imagine, and hates the very place he feels free and at home whenever he has the desire to be among his kinds?

        Time is at a standstill only in Eritrea. What is happening in Ethiopia is a natural process of change when things are in motion and are not stagnant. TPLF/woyane has come to understand the wisdom of sharing power and the foolishness of arrogance, and there is more to be seen in the future. This of course does not mean that the people of Tigray would take a defensive stand or would run to PFDJ to be saved from other angry Ethiopians. NO, NEVER, that is not going to happen. The people of Tigray are in there own country which is Ethiopia and they are not going to run away nowhere, because Ethiopia is there home. They are first and foremost Ethiopians and then Tigyans, as all Ethiopian ethnic groups are.
        Therefore, please do not try to fish in imaginary troubled waters, because there will never be such a thing as Tigrayans being ostracized in their own country.

      • Tesfamariam

        Araya

        Were you expecting a red carpet welcome from TPLF ?Why on earth do you expect an extra privilege because you are an Eritrean ? This kind of mind set is the problem,
        Eritrea is an independent and free nation and all Eritreans in Ethiopia are foreigners and that is the fact that we should accept. I don’t think your parents are prisoners of TPLF if you hate TPLF and don’t like them simply move your parents to a different country or take them back home to Eritreia to your beloved regime. Don’t expect something special cause your Eritrean. Well, about TPLF loosing grip don’t worry that is non of your concern just worry about your boss back in Asmara what he is doing to our people . Your ill wish is not going to hold water I guess you should pray for your dictator to come to his sense.
        TPLF didn’t come to you, you went to them so either live by there rule or leave their country as simple as that don’t complain for nothing. Remember we have more than seventy thousand of our brothers and sisters refugees living peacefully under TPLF administration and thousands living in the cities and we should be thankful.

  • YAY

    ዝኸበርኩም አሕዋት፡ ንገድሊ ወይ ተጋዳሊ(ት) ዝጸልእ ከመይሉ እዩ ለውጢ ከምጽእ፧

    ብኣምሆይ ምስ ሓደ ሓውና ንራኸብ። “ንሓመድ ድጕሪ የውጽኦ፡ ንዘረባ ድማ ዘረባ የምጽኦ” ኮይኑ ብዛዕባ ኵነታት ሃገርና ክንዛረብ ጀመርና።
    ኤርትራ ካብዚ ኣትያቶ ዘላ ሽግር እትወጽእ ናይ ገድሊ ኣተሓሳስባ፡ ኣካያይዳ ይዅን ተጋደልቲ ኵሎም ካብ ኤርትራ ምስ ዝጠፍኡ እዩ ይብለኒ።
    እቲ ብህለቱ ኣሰምቢዱኒ፡ እሞ መን ድኣ ኪተርፍ እዩ ኣብ ኤርትራ፧ ብሂለ እሓቶ።
    ንሕቶይ ምምላስ ገዲፉ፡ ከምኡ ከይተገብረ ድኣሞ ብከመይ እዩ እቲ ኵነታትና ኪቅየር፧ ብሂሉ ይሓተኒ።

    እስከ በል ደሓን እዚ ዘቅረብካዮ ሓሳብ ኪግበር ዘለዎ ሓደ ኣማራጺ ጌርና ንውሰዶ፡ ከመይ ጌርካ እዩሞ ኪፍጸም፧ ማለት ብትምህርቲ ወ ማዕዳ፧ ብሓይሊ ብረት ወ ጥይት፧ ብጸሎት ወ ምህለላ፧ ጸርፊ ወ ነቀፌታ ብምስንዳው፧ በዓል መን ብመን ተመሪሖም እዮም ኣበይ ኮይኖም ኪፍጽምዎ፧ እናበልኩ ሓዱሽ ሓሳባት ክሰንቅ እሓቶ።
    መልሱ ግን እንድዒ እያ ኔራ።

    ቀዳማይ ነገር፡ ሽግር ዘይብሉ ሕብረተሰብ የለን። ኣብ ኤርትራ ዘሎ ሽግራት ወ ጸበባታት ዘርዚርካ ዘይውዳእ ምኳኑ መን ይስሕቶ፧ ሽግራት ወ ጸበባታት ኤርትራ ናትና ስለዝኾነ ጥራይ ኢና ብዝርዝር ንዛረበሉ፡ መዛረቢና ምኽንያት ከኣ ብተግባር ምምሕያሽ ንምምጻእ ወ ናይ ነፍሲወከፍና ተራ እንታይ ምኳኑ ንምንጻር እዩ ዚመስለኒ። ሎሚ ገለ ሽግራት እንተፈታሕና ክልእ ሽግርውን ኪቅልቀል እዩ። ስለዚ ከም ሕብረት ሰብ መጠን ጸገማትና ክአነልግስ ወይ ክአነቃልል፡ እንዳ ኣተሓባበረ ሓይልና ከጠንክር፡ ብቀጻሊ እውን ኪመርሓና ወ ከመሓዳድረና ምእንታን መንግስቲ ኪህልወና የድሊ። ብሓፈሻ መልሲ ንሕቶኻ፡ ነፍሲወከፍ ኤርትራዊ ኣባል ናይ ክዋነት ኤርትራ (the State of Eritrea) ኪኸውን ኣለዎ።ኮይኑ ድማ ግቡኡ ኪፍጽም ኣለዎ። ንዜጋዊ መሰላቱ እናተጠቅመውን ንሃገራዊ ይኹን ዞባዊ መንግስቲ ወይ ምምሕዳር ብፍሉጥ ሕጊ ወ ስርዓት ከምዝሰርሕ ኪገብር ምስ ዝጽዕር ጥራይ እዩ ዝበለጸ ምምሕያሽ ዝመጽእ። እዚ ኣገባብ እዚ ነቲ እንብህጎ ጽቡቕ ለውጢ ናብ ኵናት ሕድሕድ ከይኣቶና ወይ ባዕዳዊ ወራር ከይዓደምና ህዝባዊ መንግስቲ ምምስራት የኽእለና ንቀጻልነቱ ዘረጋግጽ ባህሊውን ከወንነና ዚኽእል ኣገባብ እዩ፡ እብህሎ።

    “ዓሻ ድየ በራኺ፧” በዓል ኢሳያስ ኣፍወርቂ ይኹኑ ካልኦት ተጋደልቲ ንመጋድልቶም ተዛሪብኩም ኢሎም ክኣስሩ ክቀትሉ እናረኣኹዎምሲ ክእሰር ክቅተል ኢለ ክዛረብ፧ ይሓተኒ ከምመሊሱ።

    እሞ እቲ ንኣተሓሳስባ ገድሊ ወይ ተጋደልቲ ካብ ገጽ ኤርትራ ናይ ምጥፋእ ሕልምኻ ብተግባር ከመይ ቢሉ ኪፍጸም ኢኻ ትጽበ ዘሎኻ፧ ትምኒትካ ካብ ዓቕምኻ ንላዕሊ እንተኮይኑኮ ኪትግበር ዘይከኣል ዕላማ ኢኻ ተቕርብ ዘለኻ፡ማለት እዩ፡ ከምኡ ድማ ጥቅሚ የብሉን። “ሳእንኻ ማዕረ እግርኻ እዩ ግቡኡ” ከምዝብሃል ብዛዕባ ኪትግበር ዚኽእል ዕላማታት ንዛረብ እብህሎ። ብዛዕባ ኣገባብ ቃልሲ ክትዛረብ እንተኰንካ ድማ ናቱ ዝርዝር ረቋሒታት ክትምርምር የድልየካ። ንኣብነት፡ዘእስር ዘረባ ዘየእስር ዘረባ ኣሎ። ንሓጺር ግዜ ዘእስር ዘርባ ኣሎ ንነዊሕ ግዜ ዘእስር ዘረባውን ኣሎ። ዘረባኮ ንስለ ዘረባ ኣይዝረብን እዩ። ተቃዋሚ እንተኮይንካኮ ምስ ዝድግፉኻ ብዙሓት ሰባት እናተሓባበርካ እቲ ዘይትፈትዎ ኣሰራርሓ ተሰሪዙ እስኻ ብዘቅረብካዮ ዝሓሸ ኣሰራርሓ ኪትካእሞ መንግስቲ ተመሓይሹ ህዝቢ ዝያዳ ኪጥቀም ደኣምበር ብህልኽ ንኢሳያስ ክትዕንቅፍ ኣይኮነን እቲ ዕላማኻ ኪኸውን። “ዝፈሰሰ ማይ ነይሕፈስ ዝተዘርበ ነይምለስ” ከምዝብሃል ገድሊ ሓሊፉ እዩ። ኪዝንቶ እንተዘይኮይኑ ኪቅየር ኪልወጥ ኪእረም ኪመሓየሽ ኪብተን ኪእርነብ ኣይከኣልን እዩ።

    ገድሊ ኤርትራ ፖለቲካውን ወተሃደራውን ቃልስታት ዘወሃህደ መስርሕ እዩ ኔሩ። ተሓኤ ወይ ህግሓኤ ሃገራዊ ደሞክራስያዊ ፕሮግራም ዝብሃል ፖለቲካዊ መደብ ኔሩዎ። እሱ ድማ ሃገራዊ ናጽነት ምምጻእ ቀዳምነት ዝወሃቦ ህጹጽ ዕላማ ኮይኑ ነዚ ዕላማዚ ብዘጎልብት ወይ ብዘይዕንቅፍ መንገድታት ድማ ማዕርነት ወ ደሞክራሲ ምስራጽ ዕለታዊ ቃልስታቱ እዩ ኔሩ። ነፍሲወከፍ ግንባር ግን ንፖለቲካዊ ፕሮግራሙ ኣብ ዓውዲ ኵናት ተጸሚዱ እንከሎ ክዉን ንምግባር ይጽዕር ስለዝነበረ ወተሃደራዊ ወ ጸጥታዊ ጕዳያት ኵናት ነቲ ደሞክራስያዊ ጉዳያት ንከይምዕብል ዝደቍሶ ዝነበረ እዩ ዝመስለኒ። ህግደፍ ዝተኸሎ መንግስቲ ኤርትራ ቅዋም ተጻሒፉ ህዝባዊ መንግስቲ ኤርትራ ኪትከል ሃገራዊ ምርጫታት ኪካየድ ሽዱሽተ ወርሒ ምስ ተረፎ እዩ ኣብ ናይ ዶብ ኵናት ምስ ኢትዮጵያ ኣትዩ። በዚ ምኽንያት ሎሚ ኣብ ኤርትራ ህዝባዊ መንግስቲ ዘይተመስረተ ኣብ ገድሊ ኤርትራ ዝነበሩ መራሕቲ ደሞክራስያውያን ስለዘይነበሩ እዩ ዝብህል መደምደምታ፡ ሓደ ወተሃደራዊ ትካል ደሞክራስያዊ ኪኸውን ከምዘይግባእን ኪኸውን እውን ከምዘይብሉን ብተወሳኺውን ተጋደልቲ ምስ ህዝቢ ቅዋማዊ መንግስቲ ኪምስረት ከምዝጸዓሩ ኣብ ሕሳብ ዘየእቱ ግጉይ መደምደምታ ኮይኑ እዩ ዝስምዓኒ። ንክልቲኡ ኵነታት ሓደ ዘምስሎ ሓፈሻዊ ቀንዲ ባህርይ ኵናት ንናጽነት ሃገር ወ ኵናት ንምክልኻል ናጽነት ሃገር እዩ።ህግደፍ ዝተኸሎ መንግስቲ ኤርትራ ብዝተማልአ ዓቐን ህዝባዊ መልክዕ ዘይሓዘሉ ቀንዲ ምኽንያት፡ ድሕሪ 1998 ኣብ ኵናት ወይ ሓውሲኵናት ተጸሚዱ ስለዘሎ (ከምቲ ናይ ህግሓኤ ኣብ ግዜ ገድሊ) ንወተሃደራዊ ጉዳያት ቀዳምነት ስለዝሃቦ ደኣምበር ደሞክራስያዊ ወይ ቅዋማዊ መንግስቲ ኪምስርት ስልዘይደለየ እይነበረን ንዓይ ከም ዝርኣየኒ።

    ስለዚ እስኻ ኤርትራዊ እንተኴንካ ግቡእካ ግብሪ ከይከፈልካ ክነስኻ መንግስቲ ኤርትራ ከምዚ ኣይገበረን ከምዚ ኣጕዲሉ እናበልካ ምብጫው ወይ ዝሓሸ መፍትሕታት ከየቅረብካ ኣብ ኤርትራ ዘሎ ጸገማት ምጽብጻብ ንመን እንታይ ጥቕሚ ኣለዎ፧ ክሳዕ ለውጢ ዝመጽእ ወይ ዝእሰር ወ ዝኣስር ዝጠፍእ ኣብ ውሽጢ ኤርትራ (ብመንፈስ ገድሊ ወ ተጋደልቲ) ንህዝቢ ብምንቅቃሕ ወ ብምውዳብ ክትቃለስ ውፉይ እንተዘይኴንካ ደኣሞ “መን ብዝረሃጸልካ ኢኻ ግዓት ክትበልዕ” ደሊኻ፧ ብዘይ ውግእ ሓድሕድ ወይ ወራር ባዕዳዊ ሓይሊ ኣብ ኤርትራ ጽቡቅ ለውጢ ከምጽእ ዝተፈልየ ጥበብ ወ ናይ ሽግራትና መፍትሕታት ከም ዘሎካ ንህዝቢ አእምን ህዝቢ ምሳኻ ኪኸውን እዩ። እናበልክዎ ተጸዊዑ ተፈላሊና።

    • haile

      YAY

      I agree on the notion that blaming Ghedli or tegadelti for the mess is neither responsible nor prudent. But it is far from the truth to declare that the colossal damage that has been wrought on the State by the governing regime is to do, solely, with the no-war-no-peace state of situation. The regime has done far too much damage by amplifying the ramifications of the war and denying Eritreans at home and the diaspora from contributing in any meaningful way other than its greed. It is not fair to tell your friend that he didn’t contribute, when in fact, he is not in a position to do so due to the simple fact that the regime has literally cordoned off the nation and is holding it in a hostage like lock-down state. Please, let’s be fair here.

  • wediere

    Awatista,

    Yea go ahead read the instruction in the link provided:

    http://blog.macsales.com/3301-how-to-add-a-globally-recognized-avatar-to-your-email-address

    Regards
    AOsman

  • Araya

    @Haile.
    Bro, you have been jumping from one position to the other like a child with full HADD or a mad dog, take your pick.
    What is your point?
    I am asking this because you started with coming down on the opposition and with no time you changed you colors and now, you are all over in love with Amanual degrading Eritrea. Shall we excpect from you to tell us how Meles Zenawi was democratic and a visionary leader? is that your plan?
    I am asking this because you lost me. Why don’t you deal with greatest problem of Africa, the Aid addiction? Why don’t you tell us how Eritrea is dealing with it? Why don’t you tell us if the government of Eritrea is right or wrong dealing with aid situation? Why don’t you tell us the real time update? I know you are good at throwing old data’s and stories, how about the new once? The other day I read you were accusing the Eritrean government for not allowing people in to the Airport. I just came back from Addis and I tell what, my family was on rain outside socked waiting from. Ask all the TPLF on this forum, ask them about Bole Airport. When you tried to this things as only happen in Eritrea, you are making a fool out of yourself.
    Now,Dude, hold yourself and slow down. Now you have got the respect of the good for nothings, now can you go back and deal with real issues, please!
    What is your point?
    What is your Agenda?
    Which opposition are you belong to?
    You have clearly showed your support for border demarcation but why are hand and gloves with people they don’t. for instance, the likes of Aman.
    Do you believe Meles was “a democrat, visionary and a moral leader?”
    Thank you for your replay.

    • Araya

      P.S
      To awate team.
      I see few people got aviator but not the majority, why is that?
      I mean, are the few people treated differently?

      [From moderator: That is a good question for Wediere and Nitricc. Even the awate moderators don't have an avatar.]

      • yegermal

        Oh, avatar! Was starting to wonder if awate gave some free flying lessons:)

        • wediere

          Selamat,

          I was introduced to the use of avatar by Nitricc three years ago when awate tried the v2 forum. That is why you see we both have avatars..nothing special. My take, Nitricc can correct me if am wrong, our avatars are linked to our emails…if I was to post in Assenna using the same email, you would see the same avatar.

          How you do it, Nitricc can provide the detail (or google it for quick info)…we wont look cool anymore :). Actually it gives me chance to make a change, three years is too long….

          Regards
          AOsman

    • yegermal

      “Why don’t you tell us the real time update? I know you are good at throwing old data’s and stories, how about the new once?”

      If your privy to reliable brand new data, please do not hesitate to share!

    • haile

      Araya

      It is understandable that you find me “confusing”. It is the way this whole thing is set-up that have you trapped for a stupid. You see, we are talking about a home (Eritrea) that is run by a malicious Lord (the regime) that have a fearful Butler (pro regime – very few in actual numbers). The home is an inheritance among 4 brothers: the self-appointed Lord, the Butler (who is tricked to believe he is just a lucky servant), the brother refusing to get out of the home and is fighting for his right of ownership (Patriotic Eritreans at home and abroad, me included) and the angry brother who was kicked out by the self-appointed lord and now thinks what happens to the home is not their problem (the pro-Ethiopia opposition).

      When I talk to the angry brother who has been kicked out, it is about talking in equal terms and trying to convince him that they need to assume their full ownership rights as regards all aspects of Eritrea. Border, Sanction, Ethnic and religious harmony, Economy, politics…

      When I talk to the butler (pro-regime such as you), it is very difficult! It is a matter of convincing you that you really are not a butler:) However,the problem seems that due to your belief that you are a butler, your role always end up being supportive of the lord regardless of what happens to the home (even if you actually own the home, you are made to think that you are really just a butler). If the lord wants to compare himself with the neighbor, as a butler, you play supportive role. If the lord wants to punish the residents, as a butler you just live to justify that. If the lord want to run the home in dilapidated condition, as a butler you have to play supportive role. Regardless what the lord does, you’re in to supporting it. Hence I have huge confidence building exercise to do when I talk to you (this is why I discourage the angry brother outside from insulting the butler, it doesn’t help to embolden a terrified butler).

      This is why you find yourself terrified as you see me rock the home from right to left as I please, because I don’t give a sh!t about the false lord. I am a legit owner too. I can’t expect you to display similar courage, ’till we work with your confidence enough. My talk to the angry brother outside is on equal terms. And we don’t bring ourselves to the level of talking to each other as butlers. We believe we are equal owners.

      If you know people (higher up tegadelti) well, they would tell you what they use the term Gila (slave/butler) for. If IA is reading this, I bet you that he would be laughing his head off. He knows exactly what I am talking about.

      So, it is OK to be confused, because you don’t care about the home much, just the lord. If the lord arrests 2 senior officials, we know the butler would justify that without being given a clue as to why. When you grow out of your delusion of thinking that you are a butler, we can stop discussing that it is OK to treat the residents like sh!t, because that would be the same as the stuff happening to the neighbor.

      When you wake up to realize the false lord had you for a ride and you really weren’t a butler after all, then we can discuss in equal terms.

      • Haqi

        Well said. Knock out ouch

      • http://awate Amanuel Hidrat

        Haile,

        How more you could be clear with this lord/butler relationship. A stark illustration….Gosimwo t’ray Mi’kad eyu.

  • haile

    Selam

    You called me korayi not saay, so how can I blame him (gdefu eba atum sebat kan do Tslalotkum CIA ktblwo terifkum:)?

    Again, you have promoted/demoted me (depending where you stand) as “DEPLOYED” to do God knows what…:) Who should I blame for that? I am curious to know what would be the next classification:) saay thinks Tigraway or awrajawi (me put the odds 10:90) what say you?

  • haile

    Selamat SAAY,

    I know you find what you called “skunis” regime head’s new Tigrigna vocabularies collectibles. Do you have a section for phrases and klse hasab too:)

    – IA, when explaining how his regime creates poverty, then apply for loans and grants to resolve it (which never happens) said “nay qlwlaw mihdera / crisis management”

    – IA, when giving instructions to his operatives in the diaspora to control community activities and paralyze the Eritrean diaspora said “bnuEshtoy nay rebHa qetsela bmchway, megaberiya rebHatatkan shirHtatkan migbar”

    – IA, when giving the same operatives a code of conduct when they are challenged, said “hidma nqdmit”

    – IA, when giving leadership on how to banish NGO, run an embezzlement racket of billions of dollars of aid and grant money and take everyone for a ride, said “iti hisab n’Ana kem zewats’ana geyrna knserHo ena”

    ….and many more

    Cheers

    • Salyounis

      Selamat Haile:

      Credit/blame where credit/blame is due: I didn’t label the regime “skunis”; SG did. I think his assessment is based on their base/vulgar language. They should have a Department of Insults and Debasement.

      Yeah, I love listening to His Isaiasness speeches, not for their content (I wish I could fast forward them) but for the words that will be coined. Actually, that will be translated. When I heard “hidma nqdmit” first, I knew it was translated and I remember researching it and it is (I think) some military maneuver, “escape forward” invented by (who else?) some German military strategist.

      Sometimes, he attributes the sources by giving us the original term in (“Fewda Khalaqa”/creative chaos/) after Arab Spring (used to excess by Iran’s Press TV to explain every US behavior); sometimes he tries to give the impression that he coined the phrase. It is very effective in “pre-literal” societies. Eway izi seba’y gele alewo: neza Tigrinya’s kem Ku’osu yeqebaqba :)

      How effective? To this date, as SG says, there are Eritreans who think that “we agree to disagree” was a concept coined by Weldeab Weldemariam because he once said (no source) “Ertrawian nkey nsemamaE tesemamiEna.” But it has diminishing returns: once people start satirizing you, you can’t use the power of language as effectively as you used to. So you need a new Betri.

      Hangofay

      saay

  • Sabri

    Selam Saleh,

    Outof the 8 goals of MDG, Goal 4, Goal 5 and Goal 6 deals directly with the issue of Health. It is in this area Eritrea shows progress and have high probability to meet the MDG goals in this area. Let’s see this sector by sector (tsilat Bsilat):

    Goal 4: REDUCE CHILD MORTALITY:
    Target: reduce by three quarters between 1990 and 2015.

    According to WHO The under-five mortality rate fell from 136 deaths per 1,000 live births in 1993-95 to 93 in 2001-03, a decline of 46 percent. The infant mortality rate declined from 72 deaths per 1,000 live births to 48 over the same period. These figures show that progress has been made in reducing child mortality. http://www.er.undp.org/mdgs/

    The latest data I found tells under.five mortality rate fell from 150 deaths per 1000 live births in 1990 to 55 in 2009, a decline more than 60 percent.. The infant mortality rate declined from 92 deaths per 1000 live births in 1990 to 39 in 2009. Remember the target is 37. http://www.afro.who.int/en/eritrea/country-health-profile.html. Eritrea factsheets Figure 8 and 9. In bringing this statstics WHO:s source of data is: United Nations Statistical Division-MDG database-Accessed 10 June 2010

    Goal 5: IMPROVE MATERNAL HEALTH:
    Target:Reduce by three quarters upto 2015

    Maternal mortality ratiovi per 100,000 live births in Eritrea fell from 930 in 1990 to 280 in 2008. , out of the 46 countries in the WHO African region that are making progress towards achieving the MDG 5 Eritrea became one of the only two countries that were on track to achieve those targets in 2008. According to the trends estimated in 2008 Eritrea has already surpassed its 2015 target of 350 scoring 280 in 2008. http://www.afro.who.int/en/eritrea/country-health-profile.html. Eritrea factsheets Figure 11.

    Goal 6: COMBAT HIV/AIDS; MALARIA AND OTHER DISEASES:
    Target: Halt and begin to reverse the spread of HIV/AIDS by 2015. Halt and begin to reverse the incidence of malaria and other major diseases by 2015.

    Reliable data on HIV prevalence are not available for 1993-95. For the 2001-03 period the adult prevalence rate, based on an expanded ante-natal clinic sentinel surveillance program, is estimated at 2.4 percent. This is low when compared to the prevalence rates in some of the worst-affected countries in Africa. http://www.er.undp.org/mdgs/

    In 2007 HIV/AIDS mortality rate (per 100 000 populations) is 54, the lowest in the region. Percentage of people 15-49 years of age living with HIV in Eritrea in 2007 is 1.3. http://www.afro.who.int/en/eritrea/country-health-profile.html. Eritrea factsheets Figure 30 and 31. If this trend continues with the same rate Eritrea has high probability to reverse the spread of HIV/AIDS by 2015.

    Notified cases of malaria, in thousands, in Eritrea in 2008 is 1057 which is lowest in the region. According to World Malaria Report 2012 Eritrea Declines Malaria Mortality by 83%. http://www.who.int/malaria/publications/country-profiles/profile_eri_en.pdf
    With regard to tuberculosis, health facility-based data show that in 2003 the smear positive detection rate was 70 percent while the cure rate was 85 percent. . http://www.er.undp.org/mdgs/

    CONCLUSION

    UK’s leading independent think tank on international development and humanitarian issues, The Overseas Development Institute (ODI) has written a report on Eritrea’s health on June 2011. The following quote is excerpted from the report.
    “Eritrea is one of the few countries expected to achieve the MDGs in health, in child health in particular. Infant and child mortality rates have reduced dramatically; immunisation coverage has rocketed; malaria mortality and morbidity have plummeted; and HIV prevalence has almost halved in a very short period. This can be attributed to the high prioritisation of health and education and a strong commitment to development among Eritreans, as well as to innovative multi-sectoral approaches to health. Finally, in spite of highly centralised control and relative political isolation, government commitment and ownership have played a key role in successful health outcomes. Eritrea is a country facing significant development challenges. Its political system remains largely closed and basic human freedoms are by no means secure.1 Eritrea has, nevertheless, achieved remarkable progress in key health indicators, progress which has also generally been distributed equitably within society. Progress in other sectors, e.g. water and sanitation and education,has also contributed to improved health outcomes. It is important to note that, owing to the relative isolation of Eritrea, information and resources are not only extremely limited but also particularly politicised and polarised.” http://www.developmentprogress.org/sites/developmentprogress.org/files/eritrea_health.pdf

    Sabri

    • yegermal

      If you’re going to present evidence of progress on anything, wouldn’t you want to provide information from the horse’s mouth, i.e., the UN MDGs official site, which is the authority that collects the MDGs’ data? Here is the link http://mdgs.un.org/unsd/mdg/Data.aspx. There, you will find all the MDGs indicators for all countries involved. As was mentioned earlier I believe by Sal, the data for Eritrea is quite scanty owning to DIA’s aversion towards regular audit by UN. You can even compare Ethiopia (Population : 93,877,025 , July 2013 est.) with Eritrea (Population: 6,233,682, July 2013 est.)….a country with at least 16 times the challenged faced by tiny Eritrea, and find out if Eritrea has made the progress many of you so shamelessly glott. Picking and choosing pseudo-data ( so and so said so) may serve to supplement DIA’s supporters propaganda diet, but will not stand the stress test posed by curious Eritreans who make it their business to scrutinize any claim DIA’s propaganda machine churns. I just wish there was a column titled “PFDJ Myth Buster” where PFDJ talking points are challenged with evidence on a regular basis.

      • http://awate Amanuel Hidrat

        Yegermal,

        Haile fits to that bill – the “PFDJ Myth Buster.” Because as of recently he opened all the open and hidden facts with the needed references and some verifiable data. Don’t you think so?

        • yegermal

          It appears he does, at this moment. Many of the PFDJ fibs have been exposed in different forums including awate for many years now. But I was suggesting a separate column that documents all the myth and facts so that anyone one that googles “facts vs. myth Eritrea” can find it easily here at awate.

        • haile

          Selam Aman,

          It is good that you guys find some of the ongoing coverage useful. I must also confess however, one of the reasons that takes me to the back corner, looking out of the window, during Eri meetings is that if one does something well, they would be elected abowenber and left to pull the whole cart! (generally speaking).

          I was hoping that we all be pulling together to make the “current” situation the center of the discussion. Which would of course enable the people to have a better picture of their existing condition. So, the current condition may be looked at from the regime’s failings as well as that of the opposition. It would be up to those who know the inner workings of the opposition to give us an insight into what is rendering them ineffective (with verifiable data of course). Rest assured that the silent majority is all ears:-)

          OK, who wants to go first…

          • yegermal

            haile,

            From the little experience I have with the organized opposition, I can summarize its ineffectiveness in three phrases:
            1) Endless and extremely long meetings
            2) Action without planning
            3) Of course, lack of competent or dedicated members

            Hint hint..time to join and change it!

          • Beyan Negash

            Dear Haile,yggemal, Amanuel, and the rest,

            I think we all concur on Haile’s ability to quickly and factually unearth data that leaves no room for PFDJites to argue against. Too, he is right to mention about pulling our resources from myriad sources instead of relying on one to a point, where in the end, as we’ve seen it time and again, the person that does all the pulling becomes, take Haile’s case, so resourcing-fatigued will drop from the scene. Haile’s recognition of such possibility is a good one to consider.

            In the recognition of such possibilities, yegemal offered his perspective on what ails the opposition. I don’t know if we should move this discussion to Amanuel’s Hidrat’s piece, since it speaks to what ails the opposition, gratification delayed, and issues of unity, and the like?

            Either way, I am on board to contribute what I can in that process of identifying the shortcomings of the opposition. My next post in response to Amanuel’s piece was going to be about not only what ails the opposition but what must be done as we move forward. Let me collect my thoughts and I shall offer my perspective in due course.

            In the mean time the question of the venue, whether to continue it in this thread or on next door just for sheer streamlining purposes would be good if addressed now.

            Beyan

          • yegermal

            Got it! thanks for the clarification.

    • Salyounis

      Selamat Sabri:

      Thank you so much. It really was not my intention to give you homework. The last time I gave homework was to Papillon (to back up a ridiculous claim she repeated that Eritrean military had a mind set of “ab Adi Quala temesiHna: ab Adwa kndrer ina” or some other “insert famous Eritrean town for lunch insert famous Tigray town for dinner” variation), and she disappeared and I feel kinda guilty about that.

      Now. Your emphasis was the health-metrics of MDG 8. But for the benefit of others (the ones who use “Eritrea verb MDG” to justify every abomination the Eritrean government engages in routinely), let’s look at the 8 goals:

      Goal 1: Eradicate extreme poverty and hunger
      Goal 2: Achieve universal primary education
      Goal 3: Promote gender equality and empower women
      Goal 4: Reduce child mortality
      Goal 5: Improve maternal health
      Goal 6: Combat HIV/AIDS, malaria and other diseases
      Goal 7: Ensure environmental sustainability
      Goal 8: Develop a global partnership for development

      Meeting 3 out of 8 goals is not even a solid D. I realize that not all the goals are of equal value, but when you are flunking Goals 1 and 2 and, in the case of Goal 2, we are actually REGRESSING in some of the key indicators (gender parity), humility is probably what we should aim for.

      Now let’s focus on Goals 4, 5, 6 — the health-related achievements. Since these achievements are always being related to the PFDJ, I think it is important to ask these questions:

      a. Are the achievements exceptional? That is, how is the rest of Africa doing? This is important because the type of authoritarian government we have is being used as a necessary trade off for the achievements.
      b. What was the trend-line even before PFDJ appeared on the scene. That is, were things improving and would they have improved regardless of PFDJ? (Please refer to MMR data for that dating back to the 1950s.)
      c. Is the UN (or WHO) using the same baseline for all countries? If it is not, shouldn’t that be disclosed or is that too nuanced?
      d. How reliable is self-reported data from countries where “information and resources are not only extremely limited but also particularly politicised and polarised.”

      In short, isn’t critical analysis (which is what our learned men and women are supposed to do) a list of “yes, but…” observations?

      Here’s my “Yes, But….,” List:

      Goal 4: Reduce child mortality

      Indicator 4.1 (Under-five mortality rate): the top performers are Libya, Mauritius, Morocco, Seychelles and Madagascar. Neither as authoritarian as PFDJ. Our under 5 mortality rate is not something to write home about.
      Indicator 4.2 (infant mortality rate): the top performers are Egypt 72.1%; Tunisia: 64.1% Libya: 60.6%; Malawi: 55.7%; Madagascar: 55.7%; Morocco: 55.2%; Eritrea: 51.7% and Liberia: 51.0%. What do the type of government these states have in common, if any? As Aida Kidane noted, in 1999, one Eritrean died in Malawi and we raised holy hell (back when Eritrean life meant something.) Now we have football team defecting TO Malawi.)
      Indicator 4.3 (Proportion of one-year-old children immunized against measles.) There was no data for Eritrea in 1990 and therefore nothing to measure.

      Goal 5: Improve Maternal Health
      Indicator 5.1: Maternal Mortality Ratio (MMR) “Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Egypt, Morocco, Cape Verde, Tunisia, Ethiopia, Algeria, Rwanda and Mauritius all saw a more than 50 per cent reduction, and are thus close to achieving MDG 5. What do these countries have in common, if any?
      Indicator 5.2: Proportion of births attended by skilled health personnel. Eritrea has one of the highest disparities between rich and poor. More than the difference between urban-rural, the disparity is due to income inequality. (Please read the State of the World’s Mothers report provided by Save The Children on Mother’s Day and what Eritrea’s ranking is.)

      Goal 6: Combat HIV/AIDS, malaria and other diseases

      Indicator 6.6: Incidence and death rates associated with malaria “Eight African countries showed a fall of at least half in confirmed cases (or malaria admissions) and in deaths in recent years (Algeria, Botswana, Cape Verde, Namibia, Rwanda, São Tomé and Príncipe, South Africa and Swaziland). Eritrea, Ethiopia, Senegal and Zambia showed reductions of 25–50 per cent. In all countries, the decreases were associated with intense malaria control interventions.”

      Indicator 6.7: Proportion of children under five sleeping under insecticide-treated bednets (no UNICEF data on Eritrea)

      As for the ODI report, the most important quote is this: “It is important to note that, owing to the relative isolation of Eritrea, information and resources are not only extremely limited but also particularly politicised and polarised.”

      saay

    • Sabri

      “It is important to note that, owing to the relative isolation of Eritrea, information and resources are not only extremely limited but also particularly politicised and polarised.”

      The above statement doesn’t relate to the data I used in my piece. It has nothing to do with it. The statement is stated by the author of ODI-report and it refers only to their report. The statistical data I showed in my piece is taken from very reliable and independent sources (WHO, UNDP and MDG indicator).

      Sabri

      • Salyounis

        Selamat Sabri:

        Ummm. I am not questioning that the data you provided is from UN’s Millenium Development Goals (MDG). So was, incidentally, my response to it.

        Since you told us ODI is “UK’s leading independent think tank on international development and humanitarian issues”, since you incorporated their statements under YOUR conclusions, I concluded that you support their conclusions. And what I am saying is that this leading independent think tank whose words you used in your conclusion added a caveat to its own report (and, therefore, your conclusions. :)

        I really do enjoy our debate.

        saay

        • Sabri

          Selamat Saleh,

          I don’t feel you are questioning my data. The reason why I put the quote in my conclusion is I found it resemble with my own conclusion. Your reply makes me to think perhaps the statement  in the last sentense of the quote can create some confusion. That is why I wrote the above note inorder to eliminate any confusion. And it is not particularly addressed to you. 

          I also enjoy our debate.

          Sabri

          • yegermal

            “The reason why I put the quote in my conclusion is I found it resemble with my own conclusion.”

            Huh? If you agree with the statement that there is no reliable data coming out of Eritrea, why would you claim that Eritrea has made measurable progress in the MDGs? On which data are then basing your conclusion? Am my missing something?

          • Sabri

            Yegermal,

            I’m not saying there is no reliable data coming out of Eritrea. I agree the information in Eritrea is very restricted. However, the UN offices in Asmara sometimes are allowed to do their research independently. Any UN organization can’t release a report if they didn’t conduct the research independently. Thus, all the released report of UN are reliable. See more my response to Haile below. 

            The quoted statement is purely related to the report of ODI. The authors didn’t conduct field research when they wrote the report. Their research is based on secondary sources. That is why they wrote that statement. 

            Sabri

      • Haile

        Selamat Sabri

        You said
        The statistical data I showed in my piece is taken from very reliable and independent sources (WHO, UNDP and MDG indicator).

        As you know, the regime can’t provide access to independent data gathering (a national security issue). Hence, we are left to analyze 20 year old data (1993) against 10 year old data (2003). This can’t be claimed to be reliable and independent by any stretch of imagination. The whole economic activity of the nation (in great extent since 2001) is based on a massive racket of embezzlement and theft from public funds (manpower, loans, aid and grants that was acquired through the state) held by the regime of IA.

        The simple and wanton act of state robbery that the regime conducts can’t be analyzed through such medium of formal analysis. The regime sets up a project (say feeder road construction or Secondary school text book instruction), the work is carried out by national service recruits, the supply is made by its party affiliated companies that source their goods through contraband, and the contract’s net cost amount is financed from foreign and international banks (as per my previous links from the World Bank) in the form of loans and aid.

        The above has been the standard practice that have plunged the nation in to the current darkness. The regime is locked-in in a serious catch-22 situation and can’t even manage to adjust the dollar exchange rate by 5NKF at this point in time. It simply can’t! There are many reasons for that and it would be entirely another topic. The regime can’t publish data now, because it is (honestly:) a national security issue. IA will be implicated in a major way (and according to Selam, that is just a prelude to losing Assab:)

        So, let us wait and see what more facts would be brought forward to expose the scum. ‘Till then let’s whistle…lest we get terrified otherwise:-)

        Regards

        • Salyounis

          Selamat Haile:

          You are forgetting three basic facts:

          1. When things go well (eradication of malaria, TB, mortality rates), then it is the government that should get credit.
          2. When things don’t appear to go well, then it is your very high expectation. Please adjust them.
          2. When things go undeniably badly (quality of education, extreme poverty), then it is everybody except the regime’s fault. Didn’t somebody tell you that the reason the University of Asmara collapsed is because selfish teachers left the country to make more money?

          Crediting the government for its excellent healthcare when it can’t even provide reliable source of energy, doesn’t have basic medicine is a case of “shuker zeyblna koynu’ember, qoxli sha’hi intezhlwena’s tiEmti sha’hi mestenakum.” That’s the fuel the country runs on. :)

          saay

        • yegermal

          “It simply can’t! There are many reasons for that and it would be entirely another topic. The regime can’t publish data now, because it is (honestly:) a national security issue. IA will be implicated in a major way (and according to Selam, that is just a prelude to losing Assab:)”

          I am holding my breath , please don’t let me die and share this pivotal info.:)

        • Sabri

          Selam Haile,

          Do you mean the report released by UN organization from Eritrea is not reliable? If yes, proof it.

          Currently there are some UN organizations have office in Eritrea. They collect their own data independently. If they are not allowed to gather data (say because of national security) then they will not release any report. But if they released any report that means they have their own data and research which is verified by external body. Thus, the report they release is reliable. No matter how old it is. 

          Sabri

          • haile

            Selamat Sabri

            I am sure you agree that to disprove or dispute a published report is not an easy feat. It would require me of making an alternative findings. I can find some UNDP reports that indicate the raw data was sourced from government sources, but you may still disagree and say that is not sufficient. My main concern is the fact that it is a well established fact that the regime doesn’t take such scientific measures seriously. And for a good reason I might add. Some of the practical limitations that field surveyors and data enumerators and others involved in the process face is that their survey times are suddenly reduced in order to rush them, pre-identified subjects are given to them under the guise of “People who know the area well” and many other logistical limitations that would result in poorer quality of primary data for their sample.

            There is a lot of negotiations that take place and for the regime, this is a major political arena of its propaganda. But, let’s say that the UNDP data is reasonable. What is you view as regards my previous links that shed some light as to how the regime uses the act of “road building” as a multi-dimensional exploitation tool. It charges the state where the nation has to borrow money to pay its party owned businesses, it subjects the National service to work it, it drumbeats politically to hail it as a model self-reliance…. How do you say that is not intentional?

            Regards

          • Sabri

            Selamat haile,

            “It charges the state where the nation has to borrow money to pay its party owned businesses, it subjects the National service to work it, it drumbeats politically to hail it as a model self-reliance…. How do you say that is not intentional?”

            Yes, that is intentional. But to say the government intentionally doing the things you mentioned in the above quote and to say the government DESTROY THE NATION INTENTIONALLY is two different things. The regime in Eritrea is doing many blunder mistakes. It is open to see for everybody. The government is not willing to display its budget, is not willing to implement functional system where accountability and transparency reigns. You name it the wrong doings are many. At the same time the government is building schools, health centers, roads and makes some improvements in the MDG (Why If the regime’s intention is to destroy?). Criticizing the regime’s bad conduct is healthy. Where I’m differ from you is you generalize and declare the regime purposely destroy the nation.

            Antother relevant question in the context is: In today’s globalization world the easiest way to hold power for a long time in Africa is to be friend with western world and do what they want from you. Why Issayas choose the hardest way?

            PS: Tsebsab tslat btslat dea meas ina kinriyo?

            Sabri

          • haile

            Selam Sabri

            You said:

            Where I differ from you is you generalize and declare the regime purposely destroy the nation.

            I think it was probably to you (and few others) that I explained earlier that by “Deliberate” I am using it to mean that the regime understands what it is doing. And is doing it in wanton, I don’t agree that it is lack of competency or a means to achieve that if needed. I stated earlier that such acts were designed to impoverish and render powerless the Eritrean people to enable it to rule without challenge. So, in effect, what I am saying is that the regime wanted to get X and chose to do Y as a means to get there.

            I did not base my claim on the usual wacky reasons that you find in the cyber as: to do with the Tigray, to do with the Arab, to do with being CIA mule… These to me are sensational and as to for us “the people” bzey atenayo wu’el ayngdedn ena :) so all those people who are worried that tesheyta keytkhewn, they can relax.

            The regime is not in a position to produce budget, constitution, transparency mechanisms now. It is too late. It simply doesn’t have the means to do so. Prior to the Nevsun going operational, at one point, Eritrea’s official export earning (for a year) was $25 million and the nation imported $800million+ in the same year. Don’t expect the regime to draw up a budget on that huge racket of undeclared resource. By the way, Eritrea, with the overthrow of the current administration and relatively peaceful transition, can easily start to generate sizable amount foreign currency and kick-start many reconstruction projects. Fisheries, Tourism and diaspora participation as well as other sources can easily ‘stabilize’ basic services. And with a reformed, accountable and progressively democratized system, you would see the nation making a gigantic steps in short time.

            Unfortunately, like my businessman friend in Asmara said to me “kesab ezi nay shifta srAt zebqEn, etom dege zelekhum dma lbona etgebrun btesfa ntsbe“…. So, Sabri my notion of “deliberate” need to be seen in the above context.

          • Sabri

            Selamat Haile, 

            “I stated earlier that such acts were designed to impoverish and render powerless the Eritrean people to enable it to rule without challenge.”

            If the aim is to stay on power without being challenged, there is other means. This method you described sounds for me the most irrational one. Why do you think the government choose this method when there is another means? The challenge the government encounter with democratic and transparent governance is much less than without. Moreover, the probability PFDJ to stay on power for a longer time by being democratically elected is high. 

            Sabri 

        • yegermal

          haile,

          “As you know, the regime can’t provide access to independent data gathering (a national security issue).”

          “The regime can’t publish data now, because it is (honestly:) a national security issue. IA will be implicated in a major way (and according to Selam, that is just a prelude to losing Assab:)”

          You have spent a considerable amount of time the past few days divulging information (data) about the real state of affairs in DIA’s Eritrea, but then you state that you honestly believe that publication of real data would jeopardize “national security”, including exposing Assab to weyane’s invasion. I am thoroughly confused about your conclusion! Since, as you proved, the empirical and anecdotal data is readily available to any curious body, are you saying that DIA is delusional enough to believe that weyane or any entity with intention of harming Eritrea does not know the extent of the dire conditions Eritrea finds itself under DIA? Or are you saying that he is trying to prevent mass revolt by keeping the Eritrean people in the dark? Please elaborate on this very important assertion of yours. Thanks

          • haile

            Yegermal

            I think it is my mistake to have you confused (I should have used emoticons for emphasis):

            National security: I meant the way the regime views the issue of making data available. I don’t believe it should be so. But considering the huge mismanagement of national funds, it sure would make the regime to fear. Selam called one of my data sources as “prepared for SEMG” before equating my actions to being “deployed” to demoralize Eritreans!

            The Assab thing: was pulling a joke on Selam who kept arguing from the point of view of the Assab front line in reaction to every concern I raised to her. No, it shouldn’t be a prelude to losing Assab. Hope this clarify my points:-)

  • haile

    Sabri

    While we both are working on the Tslat bTslat tsebtsab:) here are some data sources we can compare notes on. In addition to various sources in the middle east, Africa and China, as well as the EU and UNDP and other bilateral; the regime also received close to half a billion dollars from the world bank for all sorts of projects. Of course, it doesn’t feel it owe us a damn thing to provide independent assessment of the work/tasks that have been accomplished. It even borrowed on behalf of the UoA in 2009!

    https://finances.worldbank.org/Procurement/WorldBank-Group-Finances/hphb-rpwk?q=Eritrea

    https://finances.worldbank.org/Procurement/P083051-Contracts-Awarded-Santa-Cruz-Bolivia/tyrv-ns98?q=Eritrea

    You can explore the entire set of database on:

    https://finances.worldbank.org/facet/countries/Eritrea
    Add to this to the unaccounted sums that are siphoned off from the diaspora and other sources, it doesn’t look its self-reliant has been very self-reliant. Now the question is not about if it had build a road, it is more about how much of that was done by national service and passed off to lenders and donors as costs. And what happened to difference. Pro regime Eritrean (very few- are only whistling to stop themselves from getting scared) but you and me need to open up the facts and see how our people are abused and the nation put on brink of disaster.

    We can’t afford [all of us] to pretend see no evil, hear no evil…it is our country after all.

    cheers

    • haile

      PS. Please look carefully on the data where the supplier is “Eritrea”. Those are projects completed by agelglot on 500NKF per month. to build “feeder roads” and what have you on projects financed through loans and grants. Shouldn’t the regime release independent data before we congratulate it on its claims. If it doesn’t, how else can it defend against charges of embezzlement?

  • Nitricc

    Sal that is not true, i have never complained. lol
    Let me tell you a strory. I get to know this Eritrean man, he is in the US Marine, he could not stop talking about you. I guess you wrote his application in to pharmacy school and now, he is MD. I mean you are next to god to him.he talks how you changed his life. I wonder what all of you could have accomplished with wasted energy and time invested on trashing PIA if it was invested in changing some once life.
    Haile, when is PFDJ collapsing. Miskinay.
    Anyway take care sal and please keep up on helping others.you have changed one life.

    • haile

      ha..”Haile, when is PFDJ collapsing. Miskinay.” Did you enjoy the show? :-)

      BTW PFDJ had long collapsed, miskinay! It is hzbawi ginbar now… ztefeshe negaday grikh si, nay qedem mezagbti hisabu yewrd yedeyb! Did you enjoy the show?

  • http://awate said

    PFDJ, surprisingly, have often raised the antes many notches higher of what now appears as a harbinger of an inevitable and eventual god forbid bloody showdown with its people.
    PFDJ often used the divisive language of the “They” and “Us,” labeling as “unpatriotic,” notwithstanding their huge followings in the millions and their indisputable important patriotic and nationalist commitment showings.
    Invoking such a sweeping simplistic “Term,” unpatriotic “on a substantial opposition, is very suggestive that the Eritrean military is intending to use brutal force to any Eritrean dire question the junta.
    DIA shoving and shutting any hope of civil rule, never appointed qualified high position civil ministries He took to the stage, as the real and de facto ruler of Eritrea for life declaring himself as anointed king.
    PFDJ regime of more than 20 years was deployed as the tool that allowed for uncontested dictatorial rule that adhered loyalty only to DIA and showered high brass of the military and security forces with the perks and perquisites to the tune of rendering them a very distinctly privileged class with illegal riches and influences that only grew with time.
    One sadly feels a complete lack of wisdom and judgement by DIA and the PFDJ generals assuming absolute power and confrontational with its people, deeply polarizing and prompting very divisive posture.
    The Military Junta never budged from its historic designs to dominate the Eritrea political scene and determine to control Eritrean mere economy.
    The DIA his crony Military Junta appears to be and to continue to be firmly in power dictating the Agenda of the future Eritrean politics and Eritrea’s future policies.
    One would have hoped, as all perfectly politically neutral rational thinkers would have done, that DIA in issuing his earlier so-called unintended “Road Map” Ultimatum late 90th, that DIA and the PFDJ had heeded Eritrean good wishers calls that Eritrean military junta and the Eritrea patriotic opposition to consider peaceful and democratic alternatives and to end the rule of one man DIA and new beginning of peace and prosperity.
    Too late a call as the DIA and military junta, consolidate power and controlled the country and the Eritrean people being the true losers but eventually showdown remains open with no hope and real political compromise. So called winners once the simmering smokes vanish and Eritreans and Eritreans at large end up as the ultimate losers.
    However, wishful thinking aside, one only judges political reality on the underpinning influencing forces that are currently at play regardless of all other wishful considerations.
    God saves Eritrea, a great country, a nation that always stood firm in its great sacrifices for its independence.

  • Lemlem

    There are three types of groups of people who frequent this website: (1). Supporters of the Government of Eritrea/PFDJ, (2). Members of the Eritrean opposition and (3). Weyane Tigrays.

    If these groups were animals, they would be the following:

    1.Government of Eritrea/PFDJ would be pit bull terriers: STRONG, LOYAL, OBEDIENT, DETERMINED and STUBBORN. Those are the character traits and temperament associated with pit bull terrier dogs. To top it all off, pit bulls are really good dogs but they are misunderstood. They are banned in many countries because people see them as being aggressive dogs. Much like the circus that goes on at the United Nations targeting Eritrea, there are a lot of legislations in state capitals trying to ban pit bull terriers or make their condo associations expel their owners. It’s so wrong on so many levels. I love pit bulls. I was introduced to them through a friend and now that I know they are such good dogs, I really love them. I have a pit bull and I just love her. Her name is Rahwa. She is just the best dog and a really good companion. She is very protective of me. It really upsets me to see legislations that target them. There are so many misconceptions against them. By the way, there is no evidence that pit bulls are any more aggressive than rottweilers or any other dogs . All the legislation that targets them is without any evidence.

    2.Weyanes are lap dogs. They are lap dogs of the West.

    3.Eritrean opposition members are like cats. I have made this point before. Cats are not loyal. They just go with whoever feeds them. Plus, they like to go off in different directions. They are not organized.

    • Salyounis

      Selamat Lemalem:

      So, what you are saying, is that your pit bull is your very own lap dog? :) You see, from where we sit (us cats), the pro-PFDJ are PFDJ lap dogs and the pro-Weyane unionist and Ghedli-defamers are Weyane lap dogs.

      Here’s the thing, Lemelem. You, as a PFDJ-supporter, have leverage that you don’t know about. And that is: instead of accepting every outrage as a “collateral damage” (Selam’s horrifyingly imperialist words), you need to demand, to insist on change. That is what every healthy political organization requires: a groundswell of demand for change from its base.

      I will give you a simple example. In the 1990s, Eritreans who were members of the dehai.org community, raised hell when Eritrean journalist Ruth Simon was arrested. Actually, the entire community didn’t: a few vocal ones did. (Google: dehai.org and Ruth Simon.) When the government finally released Ruth Simon, it admitted that its decision was partly based on the pressure it got from dehai.org. (source available upon request.)

      So, all that do-nothing, wait-for-everything strategy you have is neither bold, nor loyal. It is simply you fishing for an alibi to do nothing. It is (and I know this is not very pitbullish) very cowardly. Dare I say it: chicken. Those of you who still support PFDJ should make a list of terrible human right violations that your government has committed, and then insist on something. That is you using your leverage for good. Otherwise, no matter how much you flatter yourself and delude yourself into thinking you are a pitbull, you are just a lap dog that is petted and flattered (which is why every single address by IA begins with complimenting the role of Eritreans “inside and outside the country”) but, in the end, entirely useless when it comes to DEFENDING.

      There is no higher cause for a citizen than defending a fellow citizen.

      saay

      PS: If you send me your email, I will send you a PDF copy of “I Sing of Cats.” It will open your mind to the superiority of the cat over the dog :)

      • Lemlem

        Dear SAAY,

        I’m not a fan of cats. That’s why I don’t like the opposition. I feel like the opposition should be more loyal to Eritrea. I see the opposition collaborating with the enemies of Eritrea. That’s what bothers me the most. They need to show more loyalty.

        Weyane has to be the ultimate lap dog though.

        Rahwa is a pure bred Staffordshire terrier. They are such good dogs. If you are thinking about getting a dog, or want to get a dog for someone as a present, I recommend them highly. They are a little stubborn sometimes though. Just like the Eritrean people:)

        • Salyounis

          Selam Lemalem

          This is the dictionary definition of a lapdog. Can u see why the opposition calls u “korakur hgdef” or “korakur Isaias”? Be a cat, Lemlem!

          lapdog [ˈlæpˌdɒg]
          n
          1. (Life Sciences & Allied Applications / Breeds) a pet dog small and docile enough to be cuddled in the lap
          2. Informal a person who attaches himself to someone in admiration or infatuation.

          Embrace your inner cat!

          • Haqi

            Sal
            You have a lot of patience to speak with fanatic cult worshipers who do not have an ounce of sympathy towards the ordinary Eritreans. Thank you for taking the time to educate them even though they are lost souls

        • spade spade

          Dear lemlem.
          “Rahwa is a pure bred Staffordshire terrier””they are a little stubborn sometimes though.just like the Eritrean people”what does these all derogatory words mean?are you now out to insult and reduce us to a cat?i know what you every day are going through in UK.what does the stupid society of UK, people like you with fairer skin with afro look call them?ahhhh I have got it(bastards)isn’t that correct?and you are sandwiched between the racist brits and their Barias,isn’t that correct?and to say to you the truth ,there is nothing comes good from such kind of stupid and racist society,even your terrier from Staffordshire.

      • L.T

        No.She released after four local news pepers one of them was Setit interviewed tp persident Isaias 1999.
        He marked his wordes and she are a free person now since 1999 and worked with her government as a top chief in cinema Roma.
        My mamma fauvorite cats name “Ninna” and my Pappas dog “Hayet”(Tarzan)

        • Salyounis

          L.T

          Could you try again? What is that “No” for?

          saay

          • L.T

            Hi Saleh;
            About the Hanna and Bereket Simon sister Ruth (Lusy G.Mariam school)

      • Beyan Negash

        Hey Sal,

        I thought dehai archives were not available by a simple click; for a number of years back I had to ask Bushra in how to access for a project that I was immersing myself in based on dehai archives. I guess, they released for public to access without having to be a member of dehai – which is great.

        So, I googled Ruth Simon, and indeed, there is plenty of information there to be had. I even found something I had written on the subject, part of which states the following:

        “Ruth Simon allegedly disseminates “disinformation” about what the President has or hasn’t said, thus, lets her rot in jail without any due course of the law for several years. The Yeminis claim Hanish as theirs, the Asmara
        Administration just runs and occupies the place at a cost of 12 innocent Eritrean lives to only give most of it back -under the international court of law – to the Yemenis in two to three years-time. The TPLF regime kills five
        veterans, albeit reprehensively, the mediators who were negotiating the now infamous Badme. EPFDJ/EPLF pushes Ethiopia off the place it’s been administering since 1991″ (Beyan Negash, 09/09/1999).

        I also found the pleading campaign by some group urging the Asmara Administration to release Ruth Simon. It must have been in reference to that I said the following in the same piece I quote above:

        “Ruling a country on impulses leads to a very unpredictably dangerous in road, as it were, to a mercy based system as I alluded to previously. Therefore, one can only react in the same manner – impulsively. One can’t keep on begging
        from the powers-be for a mercy of this mercy of that in a system that uses‘reactionarily’ ill intended actions to pummel its citizens to submission.”

        The current “government” ruling Eritrea is beyond redemption. I don’t think the likes of Lemlem have any clout whatsoever as you seem to imply. These kind of loyalty didn’t come out of nowhere. These people have vested interest that is binding them to the country…perhaps a land they bought based on that money they invested in a form of a bond. A house they built on similar premises, all of which could be contested if this brute force goes down the drain. So, these so called supporters are in a bind out of which they have no way out, and the government knows that all too well – they have zero leverage, zilch, nada, bado!

        Sal, thanks for the info I now need to revisit dehai as far back as I can and see what might transpire.

        BN

        • Salyounis

          Selamat Beyan:

          Uh-oh. We may never see Beyan again :)

          Speaking of Bushra, I think I remember this awesome piece he wrote when the issue of Jehovah’s Witnesses (JW) surfaced. You might be able to find that too:)

          saay

          • Beyan Negash

            No worries, Sal, I am not going to drown in that archive. But, I have some recollection of Bushra’s piece; if memory serves me right, he used an analogy of the Amish to illustrate his points and create a parallel to that of JWs…

        • Tamrat Tamrat

          Ya, it is all about Money! Other wise how can one find any single pfdj member leave Eritrea and live in the west salling the story of the very People oppressed by pfdj.

          Here is a typical example:
          I mate this guy around 2008. He said he has never set his foots in Eritrea.

          He said he came to Norway because of PIA’s grusome regime.

          He used to be a kind of free will member of the tax collector for Eritrea in oslo.

          He said 99% of eritreans who came to Norway are either economical refeugees or ethiopians.

          He can read and right in arabic but not in tigringa or Norwegian.

          He went all the way to Nether land to oppose the sanction.

          He was allocated land in a suberb of Asmara because it is in his ancesteral tradition that People in that area where ever they are in the world that they can get a piece of land to make house or buisness.

          Now he is in his ancestral land to collect the rent of the house.

          He couldnt understand why People get irritated that the youth in Eritrea do all those fantastic campaign. He meant those who live abroad would help by their Money and at home by all means they can.

          He said millions change their mind about isayas if they only visited Eritrea.

          I visit Eritrea the day isayas goes to jail.

          How many of this type eplf members (for ethiopians tplf members) do you know`?

        • L.T

          Ruth work on that time for France Agancy and wrote some floosh which are not inreality.
          Infact on dehai I do remember some people who used their intersite to bleme the culture of leadres of EPLF like Salih G,Salih Y,Weldeyesus Ammar,Freweyni G.Zadik(The brother I miss)Aararet Iyob about Eritreans refugee in Sudan,Natneal Powlos and Amaniel Melles on Journalism in Eritrea,University of Asmera fature..
          but most of them (3000) were with “Hade Bahgna Banda)—Hade libi,hade Adi,hadi hzbi,Hanti Hawelti,Hade Hawi Hafti,Hade Meswaeti,Hade qalsi Hade gedli,Hade Merihnet Hanti Betri,Hanti bani hanti qursi.Hanti haymanot hade bahli…..:-)

    • yegermal

      Let me try one more time , perhaps the moderator will let this one through:). If I were to compare DIA’ s supporters to any member of the animal kingdom, I would choose the parrot….not only because they are prone to thoughtlessly replay DIA’s talking points but also because they love to dress colorfully during pro-DIA demo, where parroting reaches its highest pitch.

      Dear moderator, any reason why my comment did not qualify for publish? Thank you for the elucidation!

    • Yodita

      ‘Lemlem’

      I read your above post too late but am commenting on it eventhough you may not read it.

      Where I live, over the years pit bulls have fatally attacked humans, mostly children and babies. The last one I read about was a 2 year old infants fatally attacked by a family pit bull he was playing with in the backyard. Pit bulls can be seized by the urge to tear anyone nearby to pieces for no apparent reason but an instinct to harm and kill which is why they are banned in sensible countries.

      It is funny you, consider yourself as “STRONG, LOYAL, OBEDIENT, DETERMINED and STUBBORN.” but a pit bull nevertheless! A mean assassin for no reason at all (mostly of babies and infants!!).

      • Yodita

        correction: please read a 2 year old infant…

  • spade spade

    Ethiopian power,i realized today how our Ethiopian brothers/sisters can build a defence-wall out of their mere bodies to protect and uphold their dignity and sovereignity.they talk straight talks…I just cannot believe that.just go to MESKEREM.NET and click on the headline”ethiopian dam”and read the comments of our Ethiopian brothers/sisters for yourself.that is what I really call unity”hade hizbi hade libi”
    regards

  • yemane

    Tamrat Tamrat,
    I hope we will agree on Natural Truth..i.e. ” The Sun rises in the East!!”…Now, all your already understood points( for any sensible person) are facts but theoretical at least from the stand-point of you( as you are sitting behind your expensive Asus or Apple Computer, not to mention your Comfortable Couch where possibly your little Chihuahua pet is looking surprised from your left side)…..I hope your Smart mind has already computed my critics and that is ” please, to be heard with all your beautiful advices, we are desperately expecting you to see your physical presence in the right place and as a leader”….No Offense but lets be part of what we preach practically…

  • Tamrat Tamrat

    If you are eritrean then do not hate ehtiopians by the evil propaganda and deeds of elf which sympathinzes Arabs, eplf which sympathizes italian colonization, and tplf which sympathizes tigray first policy. All these parties use eritea for their politics regadless what the mass eritreans can go through.

    If you are eritrean, you must demand a better life in Eritrea than pri 1991. If the majority of eritreans are doing better concidering the realities at hand than pri 1991 then work with your government to achive better.

    If you are eritrean, the muslims and christians are the closet to you than the italians and the Arabs.

    If you are eritrean, do not leave Eritrea now because Eritrea has reached the treshold for lossing important People to sustain the land as a functioning country. (Somalia is not destroyed overnight).

    If you are eritreans stop this non stop festivals because they dont reflect the realities at home because you do the festivals all over the world not as tourists but as refugees.

    If you are eritreans stop this cyber war but comfront the government at home. The government is not that wilde or strong the way the cyber desribes it as the regugees are composed of all sorts of eritrean socities told us.

    If you are eritreans do not assume Eritrea disappears if you stand up against the regime. If Eritrea disappears in serach for Democracy and equality then it should not have existed in the first place.

    If you are eritreans demand what the oppostion offers, if they have nothing or the same as eplf then stick to your existing government Accept reality.

    If you are eritreans a peacefull cooexistence with ethiopia must be based on mutual respect and bilateral agreements.

    If you are eritreans stop this ghedil rehtoric that eritreans punished Ethiopians to the point of embarassment. Yes wer are punished , but let’s go forward as civilized Citizens of the world.

    If you are eritreans do not separate Afar in to two eri-afar and ethio-afar. What you are preaching is the exact opposite of justice and equality. It doesnt matter how you do it, but afars must be free to their own land what ever ethiopian or eritrean leaders come up with.

    • Kokhob Selam

      Tamrat,

      what about if you are Ethiopian?

  • yemane

    Kemey qenikum enda Ato Shenkolel?…..Kulukum teqawemti maletey eye!!..ops!( kulna dea)…
    @ Asmara, please don’t mis-spell “DIA” as “PIA”. It is a big crime,had Eritrea have a functional supreme court.

  • QoQaH

    In your premature analysis of sorts your think tanks had predicted dire diplomatic landscape looming for Eritrea in the aftermath of the “Arab Spring”. None of that not only did come to pass, but there in fact seems to be a reversal of fortune for many of your emerging hopes. Particularly in Egypt! What say you?!

    Looking at “best put down” your Haile provided, it occurred to me that he has actually figured out the best way to get rid of the GOE when he boldly writes, “The Eritrean regime will not survive very long after that as it is rejected beyond redemption by Eritreans and the world.”After, “Ethiopia.. leave[s] occupied territories for resumption of normal relationship” that is. Brilliant idea, if you ask me! Now all you have to do is convince Ethiopia to accept the legally settled issue. You do that and just like that the GOE will crumble away like a dracula with a wooden stake through its chest and a clove of garlic around its blood sucking neck

    • awatestaff

      Welcome back QoQaH:

      QoQaH is a veteran of awate forum 1.0. He was the proto-Haile :) QoQaH is the originator of “baldangoka wedi’eka?”, whenever people run out of arguments to support their case. We are happy to see you still have your baldonga, QoQaH.

      hangofay!

      AT

      • haile

        Hi AT and QoQaH

        The best approach to untie a knot is to figure out how it is tied in the first place. There sure are those tempted to cut the rope from above [deromantics] or below [pro-Ethiopia] the location of the knot. The trouble is the former will never be tall enough and the latter have still a knot to deal with:-)

        For those who are meant to lose heart in this though, just remember that “many strokes overthrow the tallest oaks.” Don’t count on those volunteering their wisdom of untying the knot from a far:) one needs to get really close up to it, and you are [the Eritrean people].

        • http://awate Meron

          Selam Haile

          ‘The Silent Majority Conundrum’

          I feel the diaspora politics is in love with self-deceiving arguments for the sake of its sustainability. I found Haile’s prophesy of ‘Silent Majority’ and its claimed endeavor to reach it is one among the many. I believe Haile and his likes should provide us answers for which silent majority are they talking about? How they reach to that conclusion? What makes the majority silent? Should the majority say ‘Down Down’ or ‘nusu nihna nihna nsu’ in order to graduate from their silence? And should show us the difference and correlation of Eritrean silent majority in contrast to other societies?
          I wander if history would support us to claim the majority are silent if we don’t find them cheering the extreme supporting or opposing positions. I also wander if there are governments in the world which have the active back of the majority either in public opinion or number of votes during the times of election – there is a great possibility even in the so called ‘democratic’ society that the sum of the supporters of the opposition and those who do not vote for various reasons could outnumber the supporters of the wining wing. However, if the majority is not in variance in following the leadership of the system voluntarily or involuntarily their silence to utter extreme positions in politics doesn’t mean they are silent but not active.
          Can we say the majority of Eritrean people were silent during the revolutionary movement knowing that EPLF had marched to Asmara in 1991 with 100,000 fighters, the 67,000 martyrs we have paid in the revolution, and knowing that the number of registered ‘Hafash Widubat’ was few hundreds of thousand? No matter what the answer would be it is clear that expecting the majority to be in the forefront of any political activity is not only naïve but also impractical. So long us the majority are obeying the rule, doing their duties and distancing themselves from any activity that is in variance with the existing system they are not silent may be passive or not interested on anything but their individual life – and that is normal in every society.
          Haile, I don’t have any doubt that ‘the silent majority’ crab is simply designed by some clever quartets of the opposition to deceive themselves if not others. They might have designed it to get momentum in their delegitimizing endeavor of the GOE. To this end, they are successful to get you in that line and make you try to extend the delegitimizing process if not reaching the ‘majority silent’.
          I definitely will say something later about your hilarious prediction on the fate of the GOE especially in relation to the border issue.

          • haile

            Selam Meron,

            I haven’t forgotten about your questions here, however, there was a paper I couldn’t locate yet that I wanted to include in my response. It detailed how a big chunk of individual communities in the diaspora are emptied out from the regime’s prying hands through the route of Eritrean diaspora Orthodox Churches. These include those churches still have connection with the Eritrean Orthodox Church. The formula was found through the appointment of a board that is not sympathetic to the regime and know too well how it operates to divide Eritreans, pitch then against each other and take control of their organizations and social platforms to advance its exploitation.

            I feel you used totally wrong references to frame the nature of the silent/silenced majority in our case. I will say more with the reference I mentioned above.

    • rodab

      Tesfa News reported that FM Minister Osman SaleH said that Ethiopia offered Eritrea a 250MW free electricity in exchange for Eritrea to enter into negotiation on the border issue. This is funny and it would be a nice caption for a ‘dilbert’ style cartoon. Seriously though, it seems the Woyanes are trying to exploit the scarcity of electricity in our towns, but they should have known better. They can NOT lure a resentful PIA on anything short of vacating barren land of Badme.

    • Nitricc

      Selamat Qoqah
      What is up? oh man, long time. well as you see, the great awate froum is hosting TPLF thugs and likes of Haile and Amanual found a play ground unchallenged.
      anyway i just seen your name and I remembered all the people, Tsa-tse, wediere, kenina, serray, and of course the great Kolel.

      i got to bounce and i hope every one of you are doing okay.
      Haile, you lucky i am not participating. i could have peeled you like layers of onion, one by one till you get naked for everyone to see.it is never about PFDJ it is always about eritrea.

      Eritrea for ever and ever!

      • haile

        @”Haile, you lucky i am not participating. i could have peeled you like layers of onion, one by one till you get naked for everyone to see.”

        B’yenay a’Egar…B’yenay a’sagagar emo:)

        @”it is never about PFDJ, it is always about eritrea”

        Asha Ke’Eshweni…Taf Neqizu ybleni

        @”Eritrea for ever and ever!”

        eten kebti ekwa wesidomen eyom, tserfi gna zgedefnalom yeblan!

        • Wediere

          Haile,

          Don’t underestimate Nitricc, he made many awatista trotegna, even SAAYs welcome had the God have merci sorta of comment.

          Regards
          Aosman

      • Salyounis

        Hey Nitricc:

        Welcome back (sorta)* The way I remember it is that there was a guy (Fareed?) who used to say “I will peel you like onions” and you used to correct him and say, “how do you even peel onions?” Now you have joined the onion-peeling business? :)

        saay

        * sorta because Nitricc was high maintenance. One posting, followed by three complaints to the moderator about his posting :)

  • Hayat Adem

    Haile’s piece deserves the spot that was granted here. It seems to me he has come a long way and it would not matter whether one has a strong belief in the ghedli values or not. What is important is if thoughts conquer on the present conditions of Eritrea. And I believe, Haile is significantly reflecting on those realities. It is good enough for me if people believe things are bad in Eritrea now and need be changed- regardless of their views whether ghedli was wrong or right. What are hard to stomach at this point of time are opinions of support for PFDJ.
    In 1999, a Tigrigna magazine called Asser found its way to my hands. That magazine was apparently the Ethiopian equivalent of the Eritrean tigirinya magazine HiwYet that used to carry high profile interviews such as that of PIA and PMMZ before the war. But this interview I’m referring to was done amidst the war. A certain Ethiopian official was the interviewee. He was strongly condemning the OLF and EPRP (Ethiopian opposition parties) for siding with Eritrea. He called them traitors. The journalist then asked for the official’s opinion on the other oppositions. The official indicated that he was more or less okay with other opposition parties in matters related to the war. The journalist then said that although most opposition parties support the war, their stop line is different form the Ethiopian government in that they wanted to march up to the coast. The official then responded by saying the next line: “Theirs is much better than OLF-EPRP’s position. With them, we can go together up to Zalanbessa, and then they can continue from there on by their own.”
    The situation in Eritrea is even harder to internalize when seen against its softer post-independence problems, compared to more complex challenges other more heterogeneous societies had to face. The world knows no other force of liberation that had rallied a better popular support than EPLF. People were in for the price and prize, for the sacrifice and the joy of victory. But most remarkable was even the unique readiness of the public for the next challenge: nation building. How EPLF/PFDJ squandered all that capital of popular will and zeal remains puzzling and mind-boggling puzzle. I’m always depressed when Haile sticks with his demarcation/border advocacy. In turn, I’m sure, Haile will be disappointed by my mention of YG here again, but, that man has come again with a starkly contrarian point of view how the Ghedli generation brought Eritrean values down from wherever their higher bar lines they reached earlier under the previous generations.
    I would understand if far thinkers like YG knew what was in store beyond the ghedli high time and the victory euphoria although I was in position at the time to squeeze any sense out of such views. I would understand if people like Haile and Sal still believe in ghedli values though deeply disturbed by the post-independence state affairs although I’m totally on “I quit” state and questioning things of the ghedli. I would understand people like Serray who have got disgusted beyond repair by the national projects of “only servitude and sacrifice” for I myself found it completely unexplainable why our people have to continue to bleed and maim for…well what was it for anyways? What I don’t understand is how people like Asmara could still be out there supporting the system?
    Small population is closer to the privilege and prestige of exercising direct democracy, which what Sal called waEla. Eritreans had been exercising it for many years in the past. Eritreans have also been exercising the so called modern democracy platform (which is also called representative democracy) after Italy and up until the federation got downscaled. It is unfortunate Eritrea’s present governance is not even good enough by the standard of Eritrea’s past. Haile calls it despotic. Sal calls the political calls it dictatorship. They are right, what else then?! However, governance systems in our era that would not deserve to be called by that name are very handful. China is dictatorship; so is Ethiopia; so is Venezuela; so is Russia…it sounds to me we might not be accurately describing it with such broad brushing. By my book, Eritrea’s is not a normal dictatorship. Normal dictators are very guarding of their power and if you are not a risk to their hold on power and you consciously play by whatever rules they stipulate for you, chances are they will let you get your normal life however politically unambitious it would be. Normal dictators are very predictable. You fairly know what they want and hate from you, and you have a broad grey corridor to plan your life. We can’t say the same about PIA’s government in Eritrea. So, we might need a qualifier when we characterize it. We should call it an “abnormal dictatorship” just to point to its outlier peculiarity.
    Yes, it is the how where appears to be the most lacking in changing the situation. It is that capacity PFDJ doesn’t want to see gathering within the opposition. But, all is not lost. Balance line is always in constant shift. PFDJ has super tactical superiority over the opposition. But, PFDJ lacks character and content to solve social problems. In such cases tactical advantages may take you a little further but not far enough. Forget what the opposition may say. Sal put forth on previous article regarding what people wanted now: job, food, peace, their kids back. Can PFDJ answer these questions of peace, employment, food and demobilization in a positive way? So, that is what makes PFDJ inherently weak. But the opposition can answer those demands positively as it is why they were born for. That makes the opposition inherently strong. Because of these built-in characters, PFDJ’s strength, even the tactical one will not last. The opposition can transform their weaknesses as they are not inherent or uncorrectable. They can reform, PFDJ can’t. They can bring onboard fresh organizations and leadership and refuel themselves. PFDJ can’t.

    • haile

      Selamat Hayat,

      My current negotiations with the “Silent Majority” is still in the early stages. And hopefully, many will start to join the drive to bring the current situation in Eritrea to the center and question, critically, the role of the diaspora in responsible nation building. There sure is serious deficiency in terms of operational terms of reference for the nature of the regime, although I am not still clear as to the value lost/gained by the existence of one.

      For now, let me only address the part you said about YG. You see, I have a couple of Kenyan friends who happen to have European names, but one of them has long changed his to a native Kikuyu one. Mr Yosef (Hebrew) or Yosief (Australian:) Ghebrehiwot has it with in his means to do likewise and may be called Siefu or Siefe Ghebrehiwot:) The culture of having one’s cake and eating it goes unabated as Yosief puts Ben-Hur on the dock for transgressions that both are made victims[? me, not sure] of. Women have, nowadays, have great say on naming their babies. An opposition who needs badly lacking in public confidence, would do well to stay within the woman’s comfort zone.

      Telling our women to forget Isabel and Alador to Gu’ey and Habtesulus while keeping one’s ‘imported’ own designation wouldn’t be the best way to go around it:-)

      cheers

      • Hayat Adem

        Some of the names, although their roots are overseas, they have been adopted and naturalized Eritrean for long. Yosief must be one of them. Unless YG is not accused of not picking his own name while he was on his 2nd month from birth, there is nothing thereof to implicate a valid case against his reality or central thoughts. Your suggestion that he could have changed his name later also proves one of his his points. He is saying we should not run away from or change our identities inherited from our fathers and forefathers. And do not assume everyone agrees with you that Gu’ey and Habtesulus (never heard of the latter name,btw) are less cool than Isabel and Alador. But though, I thought his uptake has to do with deeper questions pointing to “how do define and anchor our identities at” sort although his examples revolve around names and naming. BTW, what is that ‘women thing’ supposed to mean? Some unchecked attitude there???

        • Ghezae Hagos

          Selam Haile and Hayat Adem,

          Just to show YG had weighed in on questions about his own name, Yosief (which means addition; Yakob’s 11 son) and his latest piece on habesha names. This one is taken from one of his answers to one commentator.

          “…Now let me go back to my name – even though its surface availability in the Bible makes it more acceptable than the excavated ones (like Lewie, Eyoel, Asrafil, Nevi, etc.), I am not exactly happy with it (though I don’t keep beating my chest), especially since there was a habesha alternative to my naming. My mother insisted that she call me Ande-Berhan, and ever since nobody in the family (except my father) has ever called me Yosief. But fathers being fathers, he had the upper hand in making “Yosief” the official name – he registered me in school with that name and the rest, as they say, is history. If you want to reproach my father for having preferred “Yosief” to that beautiful name, “Adneberhan”, go ahead and I will join you. And if you believe that I could have done more to retain “Andeberhan”, go ahead, I might join you in that reproach too…’

          Ghezae Hagos

  • spade spade

    Dear HAILE…if the daughter of Mr.Gerahtu the embassador of Eritrea to UK and IR for instance.couldn’t go to university ’cause of financial difficulties, simply, her father cannot affored it to pay.There are people who are happy of this unfortunate situation.these are not people from any enemy circles but from people who consider the embassadors office as their second home in terms of relationship they have developed with him.these friends-wolves in sheeps clothing even invite the daughters of the embassador to their daughters/sons birthday parties.some of this ill-wishers daughters/sons are going to university today,’cause they are british citizens.so for these envious and greedy parents the university fee is not as expensive as foreigner parents living in uk.the father or the mother of such kinda of people hold important office in Eritrea.and I can assure you such kind of practice is very harmful for our nation.these people should be barred from holding any public office in Eritrea and if not they should be scrutinized very carefully.it is not in their interest and will to serve the nation but siphoning off the meager wealth of the nation and deposit it in UKs banks.the regime must get rid of these thieves.and the irony is their sons/daughters consider our country as their parents private enterprise.i wish to all good luck either you want to go to university,college,doctorate,phd…Haile if you give office to such kind of people do not ask me why a nation shouldn’t be in a messy shape.
    regards.

  • Sabri

    Haile,
    In different from all criticism we have been heard you boldly stated the regime intentionally destroy Eritrea. Now my question is why then the regime spend a lot of energy and money in building roads, schools, health centers? If you read the report of WHO Eritrea is most likely to meet the MDG. 

    Sabri

    • Salyounis

      Selamat Sabri:

      While you wait for Haile’s answer, I wonder if you can answer my questions related to MDG:

      1. The MDG report is put together by “a number of UN agencies from within the United Nations system and outside, various government agencies and national statisticians, and other organizations concerned with the development of MDG data at the national and international levels including donors and expert advisers.” (source: http://unstats.un.org/unsd/mdg/) Since, we are told, the UN hates Eritrea, the UNDP hates Eritrea, everybody, everywhere hates Eritrea, why do you trust the reports they give you? For example: is the report given by UNDP reliable? If so, ummm, remember this? http://awate.com/the-report-card-on-eritreas-turtle-economy/ and how I was told by the usual suspects that the data is not reliable. In your case, I have noticed that you feel comfortable quoting WHO but not UNDP. Why is that?

      2. The MDG indicators are 8. Each of the 8 MDG has subsets and there, in total, “60 indicators to measure progress towards the Millennium Development Goals.” (Source: http://unstats.un.org/unsd/mdg/) You say “Eritrea is most likely to meet the MDG.” Some Eritreans, who spend most of their days cursing the UN, are happy to wave its reports about how Eritrea is likely to meet most of MDG. Are all the 8 MDG of equal weight? Could you be specific and tell us which of the 8 MDG are going to be met and which ones are seriously off track? Could you tell us the most recent country report that the UN has on Eritrea?

      3. Do you think it is intellectually honest to use some of the indicators the UN uses to measure success? For example, to measure gender parity, the UN says there is a high number of “women parliamentarians” in Eritrea. It is one thing for the UN to say this, but do you, knowing what you know about how Eritrea is governed, think this is intellectually defensible position?

      saay

      • Sabri

        Selam Saleh,

        I mentioned MDG in connection with my question to Haile. It was not intended to discuss MDG. Why I mentioned WHO is because of all the goals of MDG Eritrea shows progress in the field of health. Even though the other areas goes well it is not sure that they meet the goals of MDG by 2015. 

        I don’t believe UN hate Eritrea. There are legitimate criticism like in the field of human rights. You suspect that I intentionally mention WHO and hide others. As I told you before, Saleh, I don’t have hidden agenda. I welcome valid critic. Please stop to equate me with the typical apologies of the regime. 

        Sabri

        • Salyounis

          Selamat Sabri:

          From our previous discussions, I got the impression that you had studied the issue of development and governance carefully because, to quote you, “I wrote long article on how Eritrea can combine Democracy with Development.” And my frustration is that you seem to be one of those people who believes that Eritreans need a “strong government” and you point to the “development” as some kind of evidence that the regime may not require uprooting but reform.

          First of all, there is no country report on Eritrea since 2005. That is 8 years ago.

          Secondly, most of the “progress reports” that the UN has provided, including the most recent one (http://www.undp.org/content/dam/undp/library/MDG/english/MDG%20Regional%20Reports/Africa/MDG%20Report2012_ENG.pdf%20%28final%29.pdf), are based on self-reporting.

          Thirdly, well, let’s look at the 60 indicators the UN uses:

          Goal 1: Eradicate extreme poverty and hunger

          Target 1.A: Halve, between 1990 and 2015, the proportion of people whose income is less than one dollar a day
          1.1 Proportion of population below $1 (PPP) per day
          1.2 Poverty gap ratio
          1.3 Share of poorest quintile in national consumption
          Target 1.B: Achieve full and productive employment and decent work for all, including women and young people
          1.4 Growth rate of GDP per person employed
          1.5 Employment-to-population ratio
          1.6 Proportion of employed people living below $1 (PPP) per day
          1.7 Proportion of own-account and contributing family workers in total employment
          Target 1.C: Halve, between 1990 and 2015, the proportion of people who suffer from hunger
          1.8 Prevalence of underweight children under-five years of age
          1.9 Proportion of population below minimum level of dietary energy consumption

          Goal 2: Achieve universal primary education

          Target 2.A: Ensure that, by 2015, children everywhere, boys and girls alike, will be able to complete a full course of primary schooling
          2.1 Net enrolment ratio in primary education
          2.2 Proportion of pupils starting grade 1 who reach last grade of primary
          2.3 Literacy rate of 15-24 year-olds, women and men

          Goal 3: Promote gender equality and empower women

          Target 3.A: Eliminate gender disparity in primary and secondary education, preferably by 2005, and in all levels of education no later than 2015
          3.1 Ratios of girls to boys in primary, secondary and tertiary education
          3.2 Share of women in wage employment in the non-agricultural sector
          3.3 Proportion of seats held by women in national parliament

          Goal 4: Reduce child mortality

          Target 4.A: Reduce by two-thirds, between 1990 and 2015, the under-five mortality rate
          4.1 Under-five mortality rate
          4.2 Infant mortality rate
          4.3 Proportion of 1 year-old children immunised against measles

          Goal 5: Improve maternal health

          Target 5.A: Reduce by three quarters, between 1990 and 2015, the maternal mortality ratio
          5.1 Maternal mortality ratio
          5.2 Proportion of births attended by skilled health personnel
          Target 5.B: Achieve, by 2015, universal access to reproductive health
          5.3 Contraceptive prevalence rate
          5.4 Adolescent birth rate
          5.5 Antenatal care coverage (at least one visit and at least four visits)
          5.6 Unmet need for family planning

          Goal 6: Combat HIV/AIDS, malaria and other diseases

          Target 6.A: Have halted by 2015 and begun to reverse the spread of HIV/AIDS
          6.1 HIV prevalence among population aged 15-24 years
          6.2 Condom use at last high-risk sex
          6.3 Proportion of population aged 15-24 years with comprehensive correct knowledge of HIV/AIDS
          6.4 Ratio of school attendance of orphans to school attendance of non-orphans aged 10-14 years
          Target 6.B: Achieve, by 2010, universal access to treatment for HIV/AIDS for all those who need it
          6.5 Proportion of population with advanced HIV infection with access to antiretroviral drugs
          6.6 Incidence and death rates associated with malaria
          6.7 Proportion of children under 5 sleeping under insecticide-treated bednets
          6.8 Proportion of children under 5 with fever who are treated with appropriate anti-malarial drugs
          6.9 Incidence, prevalence and death rates associated with tuberculosis
          6.10 Proportion of tuberculosis cases detected and cured under directly observed treatment short course
          Target 6.C: Have halted by 2015 and begun to reverse the incidence of malaria and other major diseases

          Goal 7: Ensure environmental sustainability

          Target 7.A: Integrate the principles of sustainable development into country policies and programmes and reverse the loss of environmental resources
          Target 7.B: Reduce biodiversity loss, achieving, by 2010, a significant reduction in the rate of loss
          7.1 Proportion of land area covered by forest
          7.2 CO2 emissions, total, per capita and per $1 GDP (PPP)
          7.3 Consumption of ozone-depleting substances
          7.4 Proportion of fish stocks within safe biological limits
          7.5 Proportion of total water resources used
          7.6 Proportion of terrestrial and marine areas protected
          7.7 Proportion of species threatened with extinction
          Target 7.C: Halve, by 2015, the proportion of people without sustainable access to safe drinking water and basic sanitation
          7.8 Proportion of population using an improved drinking water source
          7.9 Proportion of population using an improved sanitation facility
          Target 7.D: By 2020, to have achieved a significant improvement in the lives of at least 100 million slum dwellers
          7.10 Proportion of urban population living in slums

          Goal 8: Develop a global partnership for development

          Target 8.A: Develop further an open, rule-based, predictable, non-discriminatory trading and financial system
          Includes a commitment to good governance, development and poverty reduction – both nationally and internationally
          Target 8.B: Address the special needs of the least developed countries Includes: tariff and quota free access for the least developed countries’ exports; enhanced programme of debt relief for heavily indebted poor countries (HIPC) and cancellation of official bilateral debt; and more generous ODA for countries committed to poverty reduction
          Target 8.C: Address the special needs of landlocked developing countries and small island developing States (through the Programme of Action for the Sustainable Development of Small Island Developing States and the outcome of the twenty-second special session of the General Assembly)
          Target 8.D: Deal comprehensively with the debt problems of developing countries through national and international measures in order to make debt sustainable in the long term Some of the indicators listed below are monitored separately for the least developed countries (LDCs), Africa, landlocked developing countries and small island developing States.
          Official development assistance (ODA)
          8.1 Net ODA, total and to the least developed countries, as percentage of OECD/DAC donors’ gross national income
          8.2 Proportion of total bilateral, sector-allocable ODA of OECD/DAC donors to basic social services (basic education, primary health care, nutrition, safe water and sanitation)
          8.3 Proportion of bilateral official development assistance of OECD/DAC donors that is untied
          8.4 ODA received in landlocked developing countries as a proportion of their gross national incomes
          8.5 ODA received in small island developing States as a proportion of their gross national incomes
          Market access
          8.6 Proportion of total developed country imports (by value and excluding arms) from developing countries and least developed countries, admitted free of duty
          8.7 Average tariffs imposed by developed countries on agricultural products and textiles and clothing from developing countries
          8.8 Agricultural support estimate for OECD countries as a percentage of their gross domestic product
          8.9 Proportion of ODA provided to help build trade capacity
          Debt sustainability
          8.10 Total number of countries that have reached their HIPC decision points and number that have reached their HIPC completion points (cumulative)
          8.11 Debt relief committed under HIPC and MDRI Initiatives
          8.12 Debt service as a percentage of exports of goods and services
          Target 8.E: In cooperation with pharmaceutical companies, provide access to affordable essential drugs in developing countries
          8.13 Proportion of population with access to affordable essential drugs on a sustainable basis
          Target 8.F: In cooperation with the private sector, make available the benefits of new technologies, especially information and communications
          8.14 Fixed telephone lines per 100 inhabitants
          8.15 Mobile cellular subscriptions per 100 inhabitants
          8.16 Internet users per 100 inhabitants

          Now, I understand why PFDJ and its propagandists pick and choose from the above to celebrate the “accomplishments” of the government, accomplishments that fellow sub-Saharan Africans are meeting without much chest-pounding. I understand why the PFDJ would want to downplay its colossal failure in meeting the goals that really have impact on our people (reducing poverty, increasing education.) But why, oh why, does a seemingly intelligent, well-read Eritrean who has written lengthy articles on development echo the propaganda? Do you not think the educated elite of Eritrea owe the Eritrean people a critical appraisal? Don’t you think that is the very, very, very least they owe the people?

          saay

          Since your focus is on health development, did you happen to read the report issued by Save The Children on Mother’s Day? (Mother’s Index Ranking.) It is so cruelly ironic when the Eritrean regime is supposed to be concerned about “adetat” and it has failed them so miserably.

    • haile

      Selam Sabri

      MDG mean two things, depending where you stand:

      1 – As the regime in Eritrea:

      One of its many instruments of psychological warfare against the Eritrean diaspora to stupefy them from asking relevant and pertinent questions as regards the REAL damage that it is inflicting on the nation.

      2 – As an outsiders generally interested on the internationalist ideals:

      “The eight Millennium Development Goals (MDGs) – which range from halving extreme poverty rates to halting the spread of HIV/AIDS and providing universal primary education, all by the target date of 2015 – form a blueprint agreed to by all the world’s countries and all the world’s leading development institutions.”

      Rarely any country makes much fanfare about such a low level humanitarian initiative (compared to many others) as does the despotic regime that is harming Eritrea. In my opinion, the regime does its harm intentionally to render the people powerless and worship it as the only guarantor of their existence as people and nation.

      There are tangible reasons why the regime is so infatuated about MDG program:

      1 – The principal drivers of the implementation of the program are the world’s major donor institutions (through UNDP and other UN organs). This has served as a back door entry to the regime who, long ago, invited aid agencies back (read the case of Oxfam)and the latter refused.

      2 – It is an established fact that the regime doesn’t allow independent gathering of data about anything in Eritrea (as it happens to be committing crimes against your people), hence a good part of the raw data used to measure progress are are sourced from the regime itself. And, this makes it feel emboldened to lie through the its teeth that the Eritrean people that are being impoverished and their future destroyed by the regime are in fact making great progress (all it has to show for that is the poverty reduction data for those in extreme poverty!)

      The regime is known to use national service labor to complete the few tasks that it does and ensures no body would be left standing to enjoy the fruits. Many are driven to refugee camps, to horrendous tragedies to escape its grip on their nation and they arrive to the west to be psychologically attacked by its mercenaries that harp about things that they have no clue about day in and day out.

      So, if you, Sabri. believe that the regime is doing otherwise, please present us with its economic development plan and how it is achieving them. Read on my response to Selam on how the regime has shut off external capital in-flow to the country.

      The MDG are not about roads and bridges and high end investment ventures, they are about those in extreme poverty and under the regime that has only been amplified. Eritrea can’t afford half of the fuel imports it use to a decade and half ago. Eritrea has higher percentage of people under the below-poverty category today than at the time of independence.

      The regime is indeed doing this intentionally.

      • Sabri

        Selamat Haile and Saleh,

        In a response to my question both of you gave a large space to the issue of MDG. Perhaps, it is my fault that I mentioned MDG. If you want to discuss MDG we can discuss it in a separate thread. No problem. For now I want you to concentrate on my question. I repeat my question. If the intent of the regime in Asmara is to destroy Eritrea why are they build schools, health centers and roads?

        Sabri

        • Salyounis

          Ahlen Sabri:

          I will leave the issue of why the regime does what it does to Haile.

          My pet peeve was that you, who had given me the impression that you thought long and hard about development, were doing the cliched “Eritrea is about to meet most of the MDG” uncritically and I would like you to defend that. Even the most celebrated “achievement” (reduction in infant mortality rate) was in steep decline before 1991 and I want you to show me why hgdef should be given credit for that. In short, I want you to discuss the 8 MDGs and how we know that 6 of the 8 are being met. If you can’t, please stop using them as a crutch.

          saay

          • Sabri

            Selam Saleh,

            You want me to defend to something I never uttered.  “Eritrea is about to meet most of the MDG” is not my word, Saleh. Where did you get it? What I wrote was this “Eritrea shows progress in the field of health. Even though the other areas goes well it is not sure that they meet the goals of MDG by 2015.”

            I admit that using MDG in connection to my question to Haile is inappropriate. 

            Sabri

          • Salyounis

            Selamat Sabri:

            Sometimes, we don’t remember what we write (happens to me too.) But this is what you wrote:

            “If you read the report of WHO Eritrea is most likely to meet the MDG.”

            saay

          • Sabri

            Selamat Saleh,

            Yes, this one I remember. But it is different from the one you quoted earlier on. When i reread what I wrote it is easy to interpret it as you did. I should have written clearly. Anyway what I mean is Eritrea most likely meet the health goal in MDG but not all. That is why i mentioned WHO. This view of mine is clearly stated here: “Eritrea shows progress in the field of health. Even though the other areas goes well it is not sure that they meet the goals of MDG by 2015.” (quoted from my post below.) 

            Hope it is clear now. 
            Thanks,
            Sabri

          • Salyounis

            Selamat Sabri:

            Please don’t think I am picking on you. Consider it a compliment because I have high expectations of you.

            The current US VP once said of Rudy Guiliani, who was trying to leverage his leadership in New York during a crisis, that his message boiled down to: “a noun, a verb and 9/11.” Similarly, when the average PFDJ supporter’s uses “Eritrea, a verb and MDG” to prove the greatness of the government, I let it pass. But not when it comes to you who comes across as a person who bases his opinions on facts.

            You said:

            Eritrea shows progress in the field of health. Even though the other areas goes well it is not sure that they meet the goals of MDG by 2015

            Could you provide a source for this please? Specifically, since we are talking about MDG, I would like you to reference ALL the indicators in health and then, since you said “the other areas goes well”, could you also speak to that?

            saay

          • Sabri

            It should be read quoted from my post above not below.

          • Sabri

             Aygedfekan eye ika tibleni zeleka. Ok Saleh, I like to debate with you. I will come back to you. 

          • haile

            Selam sabri

            I am preparing the regime’s lack of investment/development that truly serves the people not its pockets Tslat b Tslat. This would include Tslat Edena, Tslat Hrisha, Tslat Tmhrti, Tslat TEna, Tslat habti asa, Ngd, truism… coming soon:-)

          • Sabri

            Dear Saleh,

            You wrote “Please don’t think I am picking on you.” I never contemplate in those terms. You are my esteem brother. Sometimes when you suspect me for something I never thought I became surprised. Surprised, because I have high expectation and respect for you. Thank you. See you later. 

            Sabri

          • Sabri

            Merhaba Haile,
            I’m looking forward to see your piece Tslat btslat. And I’m trying to do my homework given by Memhir Saleh:)

            Teshebasheb eyu zelo
            See you later,
            Sabri

  • Daniel

    Haile,
    Are you still in illusion like the cliques of the Dictator? There was no real border question apart from the tyrant Issayas’s fabrication to trick people. Thus Eritrean territories will neither go away nor will come back as there were none taken so far.

  • http://awate Meron

    Awate,

    I believe Asmara has already brilliant piece in response to Haile in the previous forum. Why don’t you put that alongside this article so as we can learn how low Haile is fallen these days.

    Regards.

    • haile

      Meron

      Asha tsbuq alo… zemed asha kefiEwo alo… Why don’t you call on Asmara to give his/her brilliant reply to the Eritrean people going through the ordeal? Ye still think this about Haile…all I said in that piece is “I beg to differ”…does that warrant a brilliant reply?

  • http://awate hailu

    If there is no constotution what would u expect.

  • http://awate Amanuel Hidrat

    Haile,

    You harvested the low hanging fruits…..the remaining are still within your reach. Keep up in making the emperor and his guard naked.

  • yegermal

    SAAY, what is so groundbreaking about what you dubbed “greatest take down”? Haven’t the same points been made ad nauseam, over the past 12 plus years, by the vocal opposition the same author constantly vilifies and patronize? I admit your praise has gone a long way to bring about some change in him, but I suspect the conversion is unsustainable. Beware of new coverts and preachers! They get excited quickly about their newly found faith, but just as quickly, loose steam and revert to their comfort zone!

    • Salyounis

      Selamat yegermal:

      It is not just what was said, but how it was said–which, for writers, is just as important.

      In B-schools, they talk about the “elevator pitch”. You are in an elevator and taking the ride with you to the top floor is a Very Important Person. He asks you what does your company do, and it is your job to sell him on your company in 90 seconds. What would you say and how would you say it? Well, what is groundbreaking about Haile’s piece is that he has written the elevator pitch of the ordinary Eritrean. Not the politicized Eritrean who views issues from the standpoint of rights and liberties, but from that of an ordinary citizen who places premium on the dignity of life. Example: A government is not violating the rights and civil liberties of citizens if it has them waiting in line for basic necessities for 4 hours; but it is disrupting their desire for a dignified life.

      Whereas most of what the opposition that “the same author constantly vilifies and patronize” talk about Eritreans who have been tortured, imprisoned, killed (and good for them for doing that!), Haile is telling us, well, yeah, those who are not being tortured, imprisoned and dying are not doing that well either. The farmer, entrepreneur, academic, student, fisherman, commercial driver, hospital patient, medical doctor, family man, national service discharge, young person…the whole country truly is an “open air” prison. To make that claim (and, many–including Amnesty International–have tried) you have to have facts, recent facts, NOW facts, raw facts, which is what Haile provides. Moreover, it is a build-it-yourself list, you can add to the list the life of the Tegadalai neber, the carpenter, construction worker, locksmith, goldsmith, the A to Z from the Dictionary of Occupational Titles, and you can make the same case.

      If you have read the US Declaration of Independence, it really begins with a list of grievances of what the English king did to the colonies. Haile is half a Declaration of Independence, it lists the grievances, it tells us the outcome (the regime is dead-man-walking.)

      Haile is no convert. He attacks anything that attacks the dignity of Eritreans. Most of the time, that, to him, is Weyane and those who co-operate with Weyane because, to him, they are reckless with Eritreans attachment to dignity (I have read in this very forum people dismiss “dignity” as some kind of empty pride.) This time, he attacked PFDJ and those who support PFDJ. (It is what he would be doing all along if the pro-PFDJ websites allowed free debate.) It is a matter of emphasis. (Why do you think I call him Zeno:) Which one will strike his fancy at any given time? I don’t know and I don’t want to know. What also makes him worthy of praise is that he is truly independent, and with that comes being totally unpredictable.

      saay

      • haile

        Thanks saay! You now make me want meet Haile even more:-)

        I was about to give a short reply to yegermal that the article you kindly posted was never about Haile and he was not obliged to judge the REALITY through the lens of his perception of those he has issues with (much like asmara). Yet, it would be sad to declare that the “bleeding” that is happening in Eritrea should wait because the messenger might revert to views he may not agree with.

        Any way, I don’t mind that yegermal throw punches at me. Years of that haven’t fazed me whatsoever. I only want to warn him not to do that to the Chinese that he complained about their school once. Because came to think of it, the Chinese have underwritten virtually all projects that the regime hails as “against all odds” through soft, hard, and all in between loans and grants.

        Cheers

        • yegermal

          “Yet, it would be sad to declare that the “bleeding” that is happening in Eritrea should wait because the messenger might revert to views he may not agree with.”

          There is no waiting to be had as what you “declared” is the bread and butter of the “vocal opposition” and has been said a gazillion times ( and yes it has been said in all kind of manners, “elevator pitch” or what not). In any case, I am not objecting your “declaration”. I am merely pointing out that there is nothing innovative about it. And now that you’ve given up your full-time obsession with the border issue and weyane, I am questioning if your recovery is permanent. That’s all!

          • haile

            hmmm….yegermal, it is good to see you back in action though (albeit never seem to have learned from your previous experience of getting caught up in cross-fire:)

            BTW your repeated assertion that this has been “declared” gazillion times has gave me an ideal that I would do well to share with readers. I will use your reply section here, as it seems ideal of meaningful interaction that you keep inviting. Don’t mind us, you can play outside for now:-)

            So readers, the point is that this manner of centering political activism on day to day life in Eritrea has not been the case in the past. The opposition was caught up between breaking news headlines, decisive ideological rancor and intractable deductions to explain matters through the revision and re-revision of history that has never appealed to the diaspora mass.

            – What our experience has shown here is how the regime is vulnerable and was quickly reduced to an intelligible utterances when facts that speak for themselves were used (Mesqel zreAye shetan).

            – What this experience has shown is also that how powerful real-time information about the regimes acts are in galvanizing and at least prompting the so called “pro regime” (a lot of question mark on that) distance themselves. This is the 123… of kick starting a certain revolution. Because, the facts that would be churned out in real-time from Eritrea are essentially about them, and no one can forever run away from themselves! there will be a wall at the end of such a foolhardy run.

            How you source such ‘speak for itself/real-time information” is an operational matter that needs to be carefully set up. Never let it go…

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UyJoSrN__s

            yegermal, you can come in now… :-)

          • haile

            Moderator: please correct to ” Unintelligible”

        • yegermal

          About the Chinese underwriting, should we start practicing our “Nǐ hǎo” and look forward to becoming another Chinese holding, and rename Eritrea “African Honk Kong”? And that is if there will be anything left of Eritrea proper after DIA has sold it by the acre to the highest bidder!

        • yegermal

          I can come in now? How nice of you! Bad habits hard to break huh? I will stay out though , I wouldn’t wanna burst a brotha’s bubble :-). ala fino!

      • yegermal

        Too lazy to repeat my original comment :). So I stand by it….but your “Zeno” part does really fit him well.

    • http://awate Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Yegermal,

      Haile is persecuting the regime in the court of public opinion. In fact he is accusing the regime whatever he is doing against our people is “intentionally.” He is proving it meticulously using economic data, psychological assessment (fear factors, intimidation, coercion..etc) in a way none of us has presented it to gravitate the public .Haile is in full fledged war against the diabolic regime as he call it. Since he called himself the voice of the silent majority let him pull them to a proactive social movement against the regime.If he he succeed in doing that, it is a great plus that all of us have failed to create the necessary magnetic field of attraction to move the public. So in short what it count is what he is doing now not what he was doing in the past…whatever it might be.

      Who knows,If he had a strategy (on his side) to establish trust on the opposite side (pfdj side), and when the objective condition is matured as such to create a seismic move within them, to finally detach them (his believers) from the evil regime. It has done before and he could emulate it. Therefore any one who took the side of the oppressed people is always “merhaba.” or “hangofay” to use saay’s word of receptability.

      • Salyounis

        Hi Aman:

        Therefore any one who took the side of the oppressed people is always “merhaba.” or “hangofay” to use saay’s word of receptability.

        Credit where credit is due: “hangofay” ሃንጎፋይ is not mine; I stole it fair and square :)

        A friend, who shares my obsession with Tinglish, who is reading this message right now from a library somewhere (nerd!) sent me a list of Tinglish words. Some are terrible (goyayeeet melgom ጎያይት መልጎም for sharnera ሻርኔራ or zippers; hakuarit rshan ሓኻሪት ርሻን for elevator and kemarit ቐማሪት for computer.) Some are intriguing (habari shshay ሓባሪ ሽሻይ for menu). But one, I thought, was perfect: hangofay ሃንጎፋይ for cheers.

        Cheers!

        saay

        PS: America’s second president, John Adams, was so smart, he actually would write the argument and counter-argument of a point. That is our Haile. We should thank the stubbornness of hgdef for pushing him towards us because if they had just done minimum (MINIMUM) Tender Loving Care (TLC), he would have been on their side raining hell on us.

        • http://awate Amanuel Hidrat

          Merhaba Saay,

          It sounds that as if I am reading your words and your writings only (It could be partly I enjoyed it). Isn’t it? I don’t realized that it was said by someone, but quoted by you. If that word was said earlier by someone other than you, even if it is in the vocabulary of tigrina, and with whatever contextual argument it has been, then let it be accredited to him.( Is he our friend Semere Andom). BTW “Hangofay” is a welcome acceptance. I doubt it fits to cheers.

          Haile become a phenomenal debater and we saw him when facts are on his side, he is merciless and stubborn debater. The reason he was not solid earlier is b/c he was debating against the facts he is telling us now. It is a blessing in disguise from PFDJ to push him to switch the fulcrum to tilt towards our people he dearly love. More than anything he has the data of the hidden regime.

          Thank you.
          Amanuel

        • yegermal

          “We should thank the stubbornness of hgdef for pushing him towards us because if they had just done minimum (MINIMUM) Tender Loving Care (TLC), he would have been on their side raining hell on us.”

          Hmmm… am not sure if this is a compliment or a slip of tongue ….So Haile binieshtoy lislus fikrawi mihbhab ytiber yu dika tibil deleka? Seriously though, I am loving what Haile is doing today and am not crucifying him for yesterday’s “sins”. Am just nervous that I might wake up and all this is just a sweet dream :). Hangofay!:)

  • http://awate Meron

    Awate,

    Can u also post ‘Asmara’s’ brilliant response.

    • Salyounis

      Sure, when he writes one :)

    • http://awate Amanuel Hidrat

      Meron,

      Like the judicial advice from the the Medieval Roman Catholic church: “the devil’s advocate,” the advocates of the evil regime in Asmara have the rights to say their views in this democratic-mini-forum (mini in relation to national forum) with civility. we believe this forum is a microcosm of the “hadas Eritrea” with democratic institutions up on the horizon. So Meron all your rights are reserved.

  • melk

    dear Eritrean friends

    i feel so sad and confused after reading the article,i am sad that this should not be the prize of nasnet(independence),and confused why this for the Eritrean people?

  • Haqi

    Awate
    I can’t stand mafia regime supporters with passion but you should’ve posted or attach a link so people know why haile responded with his classic answer.

    As for haile, Good job. I am glad you are seb for a while I was worried you might be hgdef

  • zegeremo

    Haile

    Brilliant!!….but what about Regime thugs in Diaspora commenting from starbucks?

    Regards

    • haile

      Selamat haile…(oops that IS me:-)) OK forget it;

      Selamat Zegeremo,

      “If you are an Eritrean___________commenting from ….” can sure be expanded and made to include virtually all aspects of Eritrean lives under the regime as we speak.

      I guess what makes the above different was that it was never written for published presentation but it is a snapshot taken at a height of major push back against regime apologists who come here to as a fully paid up mercenaries against their people (some are probably embassy staff) that got them got buried under a massive landslide of their own making.

      Awate Team,

      Nice!

      Cheers

  • Tamrat Tamrat

    If derg couldnt make it more than 17 years then how come eplf passed way over the threshold?

    Is it because it is too strong? If yes, who makes it strong? Forgienrs?

    Is it because the opposioners too weak?

    Is it because the oppostioners want us to believe that when eplf gone then regardless who replaces eplf the opposite of what the mass went through for the last 22 years will be true just because they document the ordeals?

    Have the oppositioners reached out to the mass and shared their alternatives or the same rehtoric like eplf With different melody?

    Is the mass exodes has different motive for the oppositioners from that of the government?

  • http://www.npr.org Dawit

    Why do we have to read this again ? Haven’t we read this in the comments section?

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