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Ethiopia Reiterates Its Acceptance of The Boundary Ruling

Sources from Ethiopia indicated that PM Abiy Ahmed is expected to issue a directive to release many prisoners remaining in jail, some of them since 2012.

Lately, the government of PM Abiy has emptied many prisons around the country. The released prisoners include opposition members, journalist, and other political prisoners. However, the release did not include individuals arrested after the Awalia school crisis of 2012.

The Awalia school protests erupted after officials of the school and other Muslim activists protested the alleged government interference in the private affairs of the school. However, government sources alleged its clampdown on the Awalia school protests was because of the infiltration of extremist Muslims activists who were agitating the Muslim community. The protests resulted in the arrest of hundreds of protesters who expanded their demonstration to the Anwar Mosque in the heavily populated area of Mercato.

While the government ordered imams to get reoriented by its choice of a Muslim group known as Ahbash (Abyssinians), many Muslims considered that an interference by the government in their private religious affairs. The move by the government was also resisted by the overwhelming Ethiopian Muslims,  largely Suffis, who do not subscribe to the teachings of AlAhbash or the Wahabi strain of Islam. Apparently, the government’s move to introduce AlAhbash’s Muslim teachings was intended to curb the growing influence of the Saudi sponsored Wahabi teachings.

It remains to be seen whether the prime minister will maintain these policies that were implemented by the government of late PM Meles Zenawi in 2012.

An ex-board member of the Awalia school said, “Islam is not new to Ethiopia and it is deeply rooted, we do not need anyone to dictate to us what type of Muslims, we should follow.” He added, “we do not condone fanatic Wahabi teachings developed in Saudi Arabia, nor AlAhbash’s teachings developed in Lebanon.” The AlAhbash movement was founded by the Ethiopian scholar Abdullah al-Harari  in the mid 1980 in Lebanon in Lebanon.

Meanwhile, reports from Ethiopia indicate that the Ethiopian government has reiterated its old position of accepting the Algiers agreement and the decision of the Eritrean-Ethiopian Boundary Commission (EEBC). Officially, both countries have accepted the decisions. However, while Ethiopia insisted on a dialogue between the two countries before demarcation of the border, Eritrea has been adamantly demanding the implementation of the decision immediately.

The two countries have signed the Algiers Peace Agreement on Dec 12, 2000, and the EEBC delivered its decision to the two countries in 2002. However, the “Final and Binding” decisions were never implemented, and the region still lives in a no-peace-no-war situation since the war ended in June 2000. Tens of thousands of soldiers from both sides lost their lives in the border war.

According to the BBC Amharic Service, the EPRDF Executive Committee regular meeting indicated it will accept the Algiers agreement reached between Eritrea and Ethiopia after the end of the border war that the two countries fought almost two-decades ago.

The committee also called to end the “misunderstanding between the people of the two brotherly countries in order to create a lasting peace.”

The Ethiopian government also explained that it accepts the Algiers agreement and the decision of the Eritrea Ethiopian Border Commission in its totality and will work diligently towards its implementation. It also called on the Eritrean government to reciprocate.

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  • Paulos

    Selam My Good People,

    The regime doesn’t sound enthused about the recent pronouncement and it’s attack dogs are saying all the crazy stuff but here is a question: some of the areas which have been awarded to Eritrea as in Erob, for instance, are protesting that they don’t want to belong to Eritrea, could this be seen as a referendum on Eritrean independence or a referendum on the regime?

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Dr Paulos,

      Don’t you think the “Erob” land that is given to Eritrea and the “Tserona” villages that are given to Ethiopia should be swapped to address the grievances of the people during demarcation process? If you ask me my view, yes they should, in order to bring peace with the people who are living adjacent to them.

      • Paulos

        Selam Professor A. Hidrat,

        Is it about identity or convenience? To put it differently, would they have protested if there were rule of law, regard for human rights and democratic institutions in Eritrea?

        • Amde

          Selam Paulos,

          My guess is yes. That area and those folks feel deeply Ethiopian and part of Ethio history for a long time,. One of the EPRP founders is from there. There is twitter thread somewhere mentioning Dej. Sebagadis (one of the more famous Shum Agames) as being from there. It is visceral for them.

          Amde

          • Paulos

            Selam Amde,

            If that is in fact the case, the “dialogue factor” which was forwarded by Ethiopia and rejected by Eritrea had some sort of credence, one may argue. No?

          • Amde

            Hi Paulos,

            “Dialogue” is completely logical and my preferred option. I bet you the locals will solve it within weeks.

            Amds

          • Paulos

            Selam Amde,

            In another news, Samora is out, Seare is in. Getachew is out, Adem [Amara] is in.

          • Amde

            Haha Paulos,

            The Welloyes are in apparently. Seare Mekonnen Yimer. Adem Mohammed Mahmud.

            Can’t go more Welloye than Yimer or Adem.

            Interesting times… who knows at this rate the national anthem might change to Ambassel.

          • Paulos

            Selam Amde,

            Funny. The young PM is kicking butts. In fact, when I was there [PMHD was still in power], rumor was going around about Samora and Seare. As you know, Addis is a rumor-city as in ምን ተባለ.

          • Amde

            Hi Paulos,

            Wey gud.. yes we are rumor mongers unfortunately. You didnt beat us with bullets but with ብቅል.. haha. Libation Loosened Lips Leverage Liberation and so forth.

            I guess now it is being said Seare was a shoo-in for a while but Samora hated his guts. Was that what you had heard?

          • Paulos

            Amde,

            You hear a lot of stuff including about the other high powered people. I think, the rumor started when Seare was given extra Star and that probably added more oil to the mill. Thing is, each has his own fan base and each bad mouths the other. It is a lot of fun.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Amde, Paulo and all,

            I think this is a done deal. Ethiopia will get all the land that it wanted as long as IA “appears” to come as a winner by showing “Ethiopia withdraw from Badime” and that he was right all along.

            He will even give them Assab….all it matters to him and his ego is that he appears to be coming as a winner. PM Abiy is able to rub his ego, ….he will get everything he wanted.

            There is no body that can challenge IA and his authority now….MZ did it long time and he got all he (TPLF) wanted.

            Remember the speech he gave after the Algeris agreement….he was basically said…let’s forget everything and let’s be friends again..

            Berhe

          • Paulos

            Selam Berhino and HM,

            Eritrea certainly comes out a winner simply because the war at face value was about Badme. Isaias, however, can only smell success if he sees TPLF is completely destroyed. And that is precisely the reason he is not moved by the recent pronouncement. He sees TPLF in PMAA. To talk about Asseb at this moment is missing the point. Isaias will turn the opportunity into a crisis until TPLF is destroyed. And in the meantime, Eritrea suffers.

          • Mez

            Dear Paulos,

            “…TPLF is completely destroyed…”

            1) If PIA really thinks that way, he won’t see that happen on his life time.

            2) at most, TPLF will have a strong political contender inside Tigray; and get more “relaxed” than it is used to be.

            3) the Eritrean government has to offer to work with PM-AAA in one or other way quickly. otherwise this boarder issue will quickly get compounded with “case rejected” immigrant issue in Europe and elsewhere, (and several other issues).

            4) there are a lot of things changed in the past 20 years (which have to be taken in the new calculus)–across the region.

            Thanks

          • Paulos

            Selam Mez,

            Isaias is incapable of letting go of the past and that is precisely the reason he doesn’t have a vision for there is no such a thing called a vision for the past. He holds grudges and he makes sure that he avenges. He would rather die trying than, according to him, shaking hands with the Weyanes. Again, for him, nothing changes as long as the Weyanes are around.

          • Amde

            Hi Berhe,

            I happen to also think that is possible. Suppose ET moves out of Badme town (..and its environs…). If they have a deal behind the scenes, they can make a big shiw if love and brotherliness.
            If they do NOT have a deal and Eritrea insists on “whatabout this.. whatabout that…” then Ethiopia can point to its withdrawal from Badme as a good faith effort which Eritrea is obviously not interested in reciprocating and resolving.

            I agree, the right ego stroking could loosen many things.

            Amde

          • Selam Amde,

            I am almost certain that dia will see the whole thing as his personal triumph and he will laugh at dr. Abiy. I do not believe for a second that he is interested in badme or demarcation, but to heal his ego that was traumatized in the 1998-2000 war, and to show tplf that he is the master.
            With dr. Abiy’s gift he will feel that he is invincible and an exceptional superior human being, and his supporters will do their best to pass it into the psych of the eritrean people. Nothing is to change within eritrea, and things could even become worse for eritreans.
            Ethiopia should not look for friendship in dia and his supporters. Afterall, they are telling ethiopians at every chance they find.

          • Hope

            Amde:
            Eritrea has been a CONSISTENT and the MOST RELIABLE friend compared to the flip-flopping and backstabbing “ partner”!
            Don’t put the cart before the horse,please !
            Let the Ethiopian troops vacate our occupied sovereign lands -wether as a sign of good gesture or to be compliant with the International Law
            then u can talk whatever u want.

          • halafi mengedi

            Amde and Paulos,

            I agree with Berhe below. For IA, as i have said before, it is all about badme. He doesnt care about Irob. Also, by staying in Badme, Ethiopia is delaying potential port/sea access.

            In fact, now that tplf came out against implementation of the algeries agreement, IA may give PM-AA more concession to get this thing done and frustrate tplf in the process.

            hm

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear goney Amde,

            That, could be a nice solution. Amde, you have the point here..Now let the boarder of both nations people know the problem and solve it.. That is the only option remaining “Dialogue”..now..

            KS,,

          • blink

            Dear Amde
            Can’t they continue to love Ethiopia if they got shipped somewhere in Tigrai ? I mean Eritreans don’t wanted them either . They can go somewhere in Ethiopia and erect the weyane flag a million times . It is good that some people are advocating for Ethiopia in the TPLF land .

          • sara

            blink dear…as they say in ethio..
            Teregaga…teregaga…let the play end.

          • blink

            Dear Sara
            Lol , I am just trying to tell the guy to pack his belongings unless there is nothing that we saw . It is only talk, once the boots are out I will say more .

          • Amde

            Ato blink,

            You are going to have a long and unhappy life. Good luck.

            Amde

          • Paulos

            Amde,

            The new line of posturing goes, the young PM should notify the UN and other bodies about the new stand so that the process could proceed where it left of. Then, the following line of defence will say, the young PM should physically pull out the troops and he will oblige. Then, they will expect the young PM to pull “Mission Impossible” on himself where he self distracts. That certainly is not going to happen. Isaias says all the stuff by proxy when he is in a complete silence.

            “Mauna” is a rite in Hinduism where people enter into a vow of silence where they don’t talk there after. One wonders if Isaias is in selected Mauna.

          • Amde

            Selam Paulos,

            It is kinda nice to see all the reasons why I made my bet with Saay play out.

            This is a problem Abiy does not need. EEBC is a solution with absolutely no domestic constituency in Ethiopia. TPLF screwed up royally 18 or so years ago, and especially now, the last thing they want is to be associated with it. I think it is not overdramatic to say this issue is do or die for them. And all Tigrayans who are for normalization with Eritrea are not for EEBC, they just want some other path that is win-win.

            The gloating sack of senility trying to show how he got one over the young handsome prince is not helping his cause.

            The big unknown is outside interference.

            We will see.

            Amde

          • Paulos

            Selam Amde,

            TPLF’s dominance is a thing of the past and that is a fact. The young PM to his credit is focusing on the larger picture where economic integration is one among others. If Eritrea is to be part of the bigger vision, he reasoned, the hung up should be resolved. And he offered what Eritrea was demanding for. Now, it is reduced into a matter of priorities.

            Just notice what folks are saying. It doesn’t really matter whether the Tigrean regional state opposes the new decree or not, it is immaterial. What matters is the stand of the decision of the EPRDF executive committee. These folks are looking for ways to see the new deal fail. And that is sad. This is 1998 all over again, when people were cheering Isaias on including the intellects till they had to wake up to a rude awakening. Imagine getting screwed twice, in 1998 and 2018.

          • Amde

            Hi Paulos,

            I agree it is a matter of priorities – that is why my bet with Saay is term-limited to April 30, 2019.

            But that moves us to within a year of the 2020 elections, which if trends continue, will be one of the most consequential. Within Tigray, this issue will be a strong point, and the ones that advocate the harder line are more likely to get rewarded.

            I also expect EPRDF to split or fracture, which means there will be opportunities for coalition building. The logic is built-in for OPDO to be a more “Nationalist/Patriotic” party – not necessarily EEBC friendly territory. Now, where is the reward for any party that will advocate for EEBC? None.

            So it is either now, or after the 2020 elections. Eritreans that bet that Ethiopians hate the TPLF so much they will fight to see EEBC imposed are misguided. I say good luck to the Badme or Bust Brigade, because Bust is what they are guaranteed.

            Better to talk.

            Amde

          • blink

            Dear Amde
            You know long and unhappy life don’t go together. What is this all about? Don’t you guys have a courage to face the justice given by an international arbitration decision? What’s great about 3000 bragging while flip flopping in all making the same lies ? Come on Amde it is a one time and face your problem.

          • Amde

            Selam blink,

            What problem? You are the one with the problem. Ethiopia can cruise as is for years to come. Years. Trust me on this.

            You want to bet more satoshis with me? I am betting cold hard cash your man is more interested in having the issue than in solving the issue. Can you do the same?

            Amde

          • blink

            Dear Amde
            Thanks for repeating the known issues of cruising though I know it’s all not true . The last 27 years were not cruising for most Ethiopians and yet you are telling us otherwise. Our man is interested in his personal glory in many things but not on this border issue sir . The Eritrean people gave him every inch of their blood because of this border issue and he knew it long time ago and we also know it that we can not just jump for weyane s sake . On different note sir ,
            Why would Eritrea offer Ethiopia for doing just its obligation? Why should Eritrea offer any of its land to get another land that happens to own it through international ruling? Your ideas doesn’t make any sense at all and it seems you guys still in the weyane 27 years 5 point plane or as they have it new name the whole package.

            We know Eritreans will not offer Asseb for Ethiopia to get Badme and I am sure Abyi doesn’t expect that to happen either but I am little worried that Amde the great is starting to buy this whole package .

          • Amde

            Selam blink,

            So.. you are not betting your money? Or are you agreeing with me there won’t be a change.

            Are you more interested in seeing TPLF eat crow, or resolving the issue?

            Amde

          • blink

            Dear Amde
            I will bet against any notion that says Ethiopia will get Asseb or any other concession from Eritrea for the sake of Badme . Resolving the issue has nothing to do with anything except for Ethiopia to respect its obligation. I don’t know what you wanted guys beyond going to court?

            Now TPLF is saying whole package or bla bla and I am sure they mean it but that doesn’t mean they will get it.

            Let’s bet that this Abyi talk is all talk unless he take this as a national issue away from weyane issue.

          • Amde

            Selam blink,

            It seems you are the one constantly saying Assab. At this point I can’t tell who is more obsessed with Assab.

            In any case, my bet is that a year from now, no territory will have changed sides. Because there is no incentive for change within Ethiopia or Eritrea. Your man wants the issue, not its resolution.

            Amde

          • blink

            Dear Amde
            are you suggesting Ethiopian leaders are looking for solution beyond the PR machine they created for every TV sets just like the 10%. I agree with you there will not be any solution to the Ethiopian occupation unless weyane power get to next zero.

          • Amde

            Blink,

            I am pretty sure they are looking for a solution. But they wont fall on their sword for you. Neither Weyane nor Abiy.

            And if you think whatever Tigrayan party comes after Weyane is going to be more lax about it, then you are wrong.

            Good luck

            Amde

          • blink

            Dear Amde
            If they are looking for real solution , what were they doing the past 17 years ? I mean repeating the same talking points and expecting different result is simply not logical for a professor to do it again just like Meles.

            The solution is simple , remove the damn boots and discuse any issues you think is ok . Why do not they respect the international obligation they think own as leaders of a 3000 old country called Ethiopia. I mean what are they going to lose ?

          • Amde

            Blink,

            There is no “THE solution”.

            They need “A” solution that works for them, not a solution that works for you. Why should they care about you?

            The question is not: “I mean what are they going to lose ?” (To which the answer is they got plenty to lose.)

            The question is: “What are they going to gain?” (To which the answer is they have nothing to gain.)

            Amde

          • halafi mengedi

            Amde,

            the more i think about it, the more i see similarity between how IA treated MZ vis-a-vis MZ’s rivalry with the tplf hardliners re Eritrea in general in 97-98. IA refused to work with MZ and in the process gave the hardliners an upper hand and we know what happened after that. Same thing with PM-AA too. This is the best wink wink that IA is going to get and again instead of working with AA, he is giving the hardliners a narrative that will give them upper hand over AA (even if he doesnt get what he wants, IA could have cornered tplf by claiming that they are standing between peaceful resolution of the conflict between the two countries). In any case, ethiopia will be fine in the long run, but eritrean continue to fail to understand the situation properly. And as said again and again, they are doing what so many power/leverage drunk, strategy bereft groups did before them, i.e., make concessions while you have the leverage. The way things are going, Eritrea is going to lose and lose A LOT.

            hm

          • halafi mengedi

            Amde,

            One difference I see is that unlike MZ, AA seems to be liked by Eritreans across the board. We shall see if that means anything…

            hm

          • Amde

            Selam hm,

            We will see how it goes but I suspect you are right. There was an opening, where Abiy was willing to spend political capital on getting some kind of traction. I think he knows now there is no domestic support for it, so Isayyas will have to come back with something. Otherwise it looks dead already.

            I will tell you something I found astounding and revolutionary I read posted yesterday. It is supposedly a quote of Gedu Andargachew, the President of the Amara killil. He was asked about the rise of Amara Nationalism, but that is incidental. In any case, he was defending people organizing and demonstrating. “የተደራጀ ህዝብ ባለስልጣን ይንጣል። የተናጠ ደግሞ ቅቤ ይወጣዋል።” That is a sitting senior official (part of innermost ruling kitchen cabinet), urging people to come out and make their presence felt with the express purpose of putting officials in a tight spot.

            So put that in your mind, and look at the protests and demonstrations in Tigray and online. Then look at the PFDJ mealy mouthed response and the hardliners’ posturing. The choice is made very easy for Abiy and crew.

            Really the only factor that is not evident is outside diplomatic influence. But with Abiy so fresh in his post, and so promising, getting him to waste political capital to just please a has-been like Isayyas becomes a very tangential issue.

            If you were in Asmara, what would you suggest?

            Amde

          • halafi mengedi

            Amde,

            Your question brings another thing in mind. Circa 2003/4 when there a lot of diplomatic shuttle between asmara and addis to save the implementation of the agreement, IA gave an interview to local media. I remember his saying that the international negotiators told him that MZ needs changes on how the agreement was going to be implemented, otherwise as-is implementation was going to destabilize Ethiopia and MZ will lose control etc (remember that was just before the 2005 election). This is clearly MZ asking IA to help him out relieve some of the pressure from inside Ethiopia and move on to the next phase. I remember wondering whey IA found that unacceptable. I was like, IA has a better handle of situation in Eritrea than MZ in ethiopia, he can pretty much do anything and most people would fall in line, so why not give MZ face-saving concession in some points while getting compromises in other ways that are less controversial in Ethiopia. Of course, rigid and arrogant that he is and as saay alluded somewhere on this forum, he doesn’t feel like he has fiduciary duty toward the well being of Eritreans, he chose his arrogant ways.

            Anyway, in short, if i were in asmara, i would give the same advice…tango with PM-AA. And if i were to be a little cynical, i would say, this is the perfect opportunity to corner the Malelitawian that IA hates so much.

            hm

          • Aron

            Hey blink,
            In another words you want the land not the people. I heard that before, blink Dear.
            Aron the habesha.

          • blink

            Dear Aron
            Yes , we don’t need people who wanted to live with weyane . We can just buy a one way ticket for all of them. I am just looking for their best interest and for the to continue love Ethiopia . Can you imagine they brought one post saying “ Erob is Greater than Eritrea “ what a nasty valueless are they ? I mean Eritrea is not the one who took their land it is just the court.

            Now the Ethiopian weyane are doing exactly what Yohanes did long time ago .

            Ethiopian leaders have been the abusers of deals and agreements as well as court decisions and they have this in their DNA.

          • Aron

            Hi blink,
            I read you somewhere before complaining about Ethiopia deporting Eritreans vehemently. Now you are advocating the deportation of an entire tribe / people from their own ancestral land. Consistency is not in your vocabulary, is it sir.
            Aron the habesha.

          • blink

            Dear Aron
            I believe the deportation was the wrong move by Meles and to make matters more open these 90,000 Eritreans didn’t love or hate they were just there on private life. These few Erob or what ever are trying to define international rules and that is a crime . As it happens I don’t think these are Eritreans but Tigrians. No need for these people.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Dr Paulos,

          It is about their identity and their belonging. The Erob believe they are Ethiopians. The Tserona villagers think they belong to Eritrea. Imagine Berhe Tsaeda (the lion of Afaabet) one of our who sacrificed to liberate Afaabet hails from one of the village that is given to Ethiopia in the Tserona region. It is the psychology of belonging. Did you listen to the YouTube yo linked in my comment to Sal and Abdulworld?

          • Paulos

            Selam Professor A. Hidrat,

            I certainly get that. A lot of things happened with in the last 20 years including “Neo-Unionist” movement which was remotely unthinkable a decade ago for that matter.

            The radical shift was not because of a sudden revelation of some sort but harsh life and human rights violations pushed people to opt for the unthinkable. Point being, not only people who hail from Tserona but across the board, are demanding surely but slowly for something we never thought would see a light of day.

          • Aron

            Dear Dr Paulos and Amanuel hidrat,
            While I respect both your opinions I don’t think the border makes a lot of difference at the end of the day. Both tegaru are inseparable and I don’t believe berhe tsada would have fought for tsorona on the ERI side living the people around tsorona on tigray side on their own. Let Ethiopia leave the border for right now according to Algiers agreement and detach subagadis land from tigray to kebessa to Keih bahri will figure it self out later.
            Aron the habesha.

        • Kim Hanna

          Selam Paulos,

          It is identity. From what I gather that was part of the reason the previous leaders wanted to negotiate about the so called Irob land.

          I don’t think we have heard the last of them. I am sure PMAA is thinking of the greater good but these tenacious people will not go quietly. It is unfortunate.

          Mr. K.H

        • Kim Hanna

          Selam Paulos,

          I read an article today on Aigaforum.com written by an Irob individual. It is written by “Sotal” Irob’s saay so to speak.
          You can sense from his article as to what his conviction of nationality is.

          Mr. K. H

          • Paulos

            Selam Ato Kim Hanna,

            Thanks for the info. Will read it later.

    • Mitiku Melesse

      Ha, ha Paulos. I dont think they make a referendum on governments because neither of the governments have shown them any interest. When tplf make rain for Tigray it made sure Badme gets nothing proving Badme doesnt belong to Tigray. The land stolen from Amhara and Badme are just power demonstration over its enemies shabia and amhara. It used to be woyane and shabia together and making amhara number one enemy. Time is changing quickly.

      • blink

        Dear Mitiku
        If you don’t know you are chatting with the number one weyane sympathizer in this forum and he will come back with elusive views. I am sure EPLF was not against the Amhara people but they were against Dergi for the right reasons and TPLF at the past 20 years thought they can dismantle Amhara by creating a friction with Oromo but it seems they were not lucky at all.

        Almost 99% of TPLF activists and sympathetic mind in this forum were mad at the release of Andregachew and they were all rooting for weyane to comeback forcefully to manage the rise of the Qero guys . Here wer are all TPLF fat cats gone crying.

        • Mitiku Melesse

          The concept of Eritrea and Ethiopia is the same. Different ethnic groups make a nation because alone we are weak and together we are strong. It is a beautiful idea. The problem is forwarding only one ethnic group. This i dont get it at all. Man beg for unity and gets the possibility then abuses it by forwarding its own ethnic group. That is what shabi is doing in Eritrea and woyane in Ethiopia. The only differences is the way they handle the situation. In Eritrea the shabia ethnic groups are dominant they use only their weapons while the minorty woyane in Ethiopia use ethnic policy by instingating ethnic war among the non-tigre ethnics. Other wise both woyane and shabia are the same ethnic group and use orthodox religion as their political instrument. Blink since you are in the middle of it and enjoy your ethnic greatness in Eritrea it is difficult for you to see otherwise. I encourage you to see how the rest of eri-ethnic groups doing compared to the tigrians be it economical, cultural, military etc.

          As to woyane i have the same stand i have for shabia. Both are the enemies of EThiopia.

    • Hope

      Selam Dr Paulos:
      But did u read the TPLF’s latest Press Release negating the EPRDF’s decision?
      The Shabbos are very cautious too.

      • Aron

        Hi Hope,
        I did read it and very disappointed at this flip flops. I thought the whole eprdf as tplf at it’s core would discuss issues of these magnitude and gravity before they let the cat out of the bag.
        Aron the habesha.

      • blink

        Dear Hope
        What do you expect once an abuser always abuser that is the mark of the weyane guys . And here you have our own clueless, powerless useful idiots trying to make the Erob and weyane explanation as a reason . Amanuel Hidrat the Meles admirer is asking for reciprocal reply from Eritrea , what this guy forgot is that Eritrea said the same as Abyi said for 16 years . I hate these narrow minded lairs too, they have been supporting weyane for almost all of these years and now even after an Oromo guy said definitive answer here you have Amanuel Hidrat and the disco guy repeating weyane new explanation. Flip flop as a DNA sample of weyane .

  • Mitiku Melesse

    DAA is doing Tigrians a great favor. He knows 27 years of Ethiopians non-tigre anger against woyane can go out of control. And if it goes out of control then our historical enemies Shabia and Egypt could make the Rwanda massacre peace of cake compared to what they are wishing to do against Ethiopia. Now shabia has no reason to provoke war concerning Badme and ‘Ethiopia’ has no reason to fight for Badme because he removed the woyane generals who used Badme for totally some other reasons. Millions of Ethiopians and Eritreans have grudge on woyane and shabia but this MUST NOT destroy for Ethiopia. Wise leader.

    Except the majortiy of Tigray no other Ethiopian cares about Badme because they dont see the difference if Badme was under shabia or woyane. No governments care about Badme people for the last 18 years. But Ethiopia is the winner here because the expenditure for this usless border confrontation can be used for food security.

  • Kokhob Selam

    Yep My friend Abi,

    Yes “I see you are shining again.” sure..Why I have to seat in dark thinking to much man,,Now I am more active than last year..Thanks to the almighty and to you all awate,community.

    KS,,

  • shalom

    Shalom
    May be some people and orgs thought
    they were struggling and in struggle while
    they were actually partying and dancing ?
    It looks like they have been mislead big time
    or not only missed the direction but also
    went totally against it to the opposite direction !
    Thanks God I have not been lead astray and
    lost and survived and saved to see the fruits
    of my labor and my work though I have a long
    way more to travel .

  • Kokhob Selam

    Dear Abi.

    You are, so nice like ..You sound the late Ethiopian– Pawlos ( RIP )..

    KS,,

  • saay7

    Selamat Abdulworld:

    Here’s something that was written in 2004 that I agree with. It tries to make a distinction between being right and being prudent. The author chooses prudence, you choose being right. We got to the same destination except your way wasted 14 years of Eritrea’s young life:

    In the Year of Our Lord Final & Binding, ‘twas Annum Duece. Behold King Isaias the Lionhearted, Conqueror of the Red Sea and Islands Beyond! Yey, slay he the capitulationist as he smiteth the cowards within with his Excalibur. Yey, forbadeth he pant-wetting and demanded he that the Ethiopics obey the tablets as brought from Mount Hague…

    To plough on, oblivious to risks, is the stuff of legends. The rational mind assesses risks and judges some to be too high. Even a compulsive gambler will look at the cards he’s been dealt and at the stakes and then withdraw: too rich for my blood, is the common expression. Too high of a risk. In Tigrigna, the equivalent expression for too high a risk used to be ayewatSa’anan iyu. We may be able to get in, but we won’t be able to get out. It is a trap. Now, in our military culture, to express doubt, or to conduct proper risk assessment is called tesa’Arnet: defeatism. Faced with any risk, one must always choose the riskiest. To choose the less risky, to express doubt about a path full of precipice, is to beg for the label of a defeatist.

    Call me an elitist, but I think at the next AU meeting they should mandate that every African head of state should take a course in cost accounting and risk assessment. Then they should take a test; and those who flunk it should be removed from power. There can be exemptions for democratic states. Because it is only in non-democratic states (read: Africa), that the people, and not the leaders, who pay for the miscalculations.

    Being Right vs Being Prudent

    Faced with a frivolous lawsuit from an ex-employee, a CEO of a publicly-held company has options. The CEO, who has a fiduciary responsibility to the shareholders to maximze profit, knows there is no case, the charges are trumped up and he can prove this in a court of law. It will cost $500,000 to prove that he is right. But it will cost $50,000 to settle the case. Does he go to court or does he settle? Does he prove that he is right does he do the prudent thing?

    saay

    • abdulworld

      Hello Saay,
      what is topic and you completely lost me on this one. Are you saying that Issias was prudent because he followed the court ruling or not?

      • Selamat abdulworld,

        I ain’t the Admiral but his point was: Isayass was and is right when he should have been or be prudent.
        I am a race care driver upwards to 432 miles per hour and as a consequence I notice an ever so subtle loss of traction, maybe due to an oil leak, on the fat tires… Oh wait never mind the blabber I have just consumed a six pack of Fat Tire Ale. PRUDENT check.

        tSAtSE

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Saay & Abdulworld,

      Saay, Your article: “Being Right vs Being prudent” is the best from all your articles I have read in the last 20 years. Being Prudent is less riskier than being right in the intrigues of politics. Only smart people can understand that, and you are one of them.

      Abdulworld: the author is himself (Saay) and he was arguing that the position of Eritrean Government wasn’t prudent and thus it is less riskier to have dialogue than being right and not sitting to dialogue. Here is the link to read his message in full.

      http://awate.com/being-right-vs-being-prudent/

      • saay7

        Emma:

        ኣንታ: እንታይ ደኣ ተፈዳሓና 🙂

        One of the greatest enemies of the people of our region is absolutism. In 1980, the ELF and EPLF issued a joint declaration offering Ethiopia a referendum for Eritreans to excercise their right to self determination. It took 13 years for Ethiopia to accept that. Consider all the lives decimated and all the wealth squandered in those 13 years. It’s the curse of what the philosopher Simone de Beauvoir called “the serious man” in her Ethics of Ambiguity: I am who I am and I will never change.

        Anyway, thanks Emma!

        saay

        • abdulworld

          Hello Saay,
          I agree on absolutism however we should look at this thru the cultural-lens.
          What is culture that produces this form of absolutism- remember it extend beyond just politics.
          My view is its root is in Orthodox or religious-based culture of that region.
          I still believe in that culture influences values and values influence behavior.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Saay & Abdulworld,

          Just to validate our argument, to listen the voices of the villagers around Zorona, to understand these villages are important equally as Badme, listen to this YouTube. Then we can understand the arrogance of the Eritrean Government of refusing to talk with their counterpart, to make adjustments in those areas in the process of demarcation.

          https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9v61rcOiplM

  • sara

    Ato Abiy
    the new pm is talking about Bus and Train Addis to Asmara, what happens
    the WALL you planned?

  • Kokhob Selam

    Dear L.T

    Where were you man? Welcome back nice to see you commenting. no one said I am not happy here..Only what matters is you ..Are you happy?

    KS,,

  • sara

    dear all, its not a breaking news.. but i read some where the american government has given ethiopia a military transportation aircraft, and i am wondering if this gift is to help the ethipian army vacate quickly their occupation of Eritrean land, or its just a coincidence that happened?
    ethiopia is lucky country always gets gifts,donations etc for every good and bad deeds.

  • Saba

    Dear Eritreans,
    As soon as our sovereignty is secured Eritreans will demand a constitution and start the political process of electing and being elected. Please do not make it about the opposition. Someone here was asking whether the opposition can stay in Ethiopia or not and my reply is that they will stay in Eritrea if they want. I will build for them a Starbucks in Eritrea where they can reenact their past victories:)

    • Peace!

      Hi Sabina,

      It is a shame that countless deaths, displacements, disappearances, and tragedies are not enough for you to demand a constitution. Or, you are too resentful for common sense.

      Peace!

      • Saba

        Hi Peace,
        I said “Eritreans”, please read.

        Once the border is demarcated isayas will not have excuse. And Eritreans will not have an excuse for not demanding their rights.

        • Peace!

          Hi Sabina,

          Are you referring to Eritreans who portray opponents of Issayas as nothing but Cofee shope goers? Nevertheless, Isayas is now a messiah to his supporters and doesn’t need excuses to do whatever he wants- I have seen people visit Adi Halo for his blessings with some of them are still talking about miracles- search on YouTube.

          Peace!

          • Saba

            Selam Peace
            I am not talking about the toothless nothingburgers.
            I am talking about Eritreans in Eritrea. So far, they have been paralyzed. But as soon as this border issue is resolved the Eritrean people will wake up form the hibernation state and rise. Change will come most likely from the inside. The rest is a show.

    • iSem

      Hi Saba:
      Eritrea now under PFDJ is big on traditional medicine, big on traditional literature, gone are the days of calling these thing feudal and backward. Why I am telling you this? because I think the staff that you inhaled for good luck before you you wrote the comment has expired ( I am not accusing you of inhaling illegal things though;-))
      Of course it is all about the opposition, if it was not why would you say the Eri people will demand const and start the p.process. is that not opposition?
      Also as far i can remember and I have good memory our sovereignty has been secured 27 years an 14 days ago.
      Oh past victories: is celebrating may 24, celebrating past victory? or is that celebrating future victory, celebrating our secured sovereignty the future?

      • Saba

        Hello Semuruley,
        Unless you are under the influence of Chena Adam & Rehan* cut with Lihtit, you wouldn’t say it is about the opposition because it is a fringe element. And you would not also say that Badme is not occupied.
        Eritrean independence is not a victory of the opposition. Can you name past victories of the opposition?
        * Rehan is monoclonally produced by the opposition for the opposition. Side effects include power seeking behavior at any cost, recklessness on Eritrean issues, flip flopping, denying Badme as eritrean, not advocating for Eritreans and praising tplf all the time.

        • Kokhob Selam

          Hi Dear Saba,

          How is that? “Chena Adam & Rehan?

          I really don’t think..What is that Badme ? This was the land nearly in 1978 was ELF run after TPLF till Northern mountains of Ethiopia, where we clean that area from TPLF..

          Just for your information..I don’t think Badme was the main reason of this conflict..

          KS,,

    • Nitricc

      Hi Saba: now with clear mind and clear consciousness we can ask and challenge PIA to the bone. He restored the value and the sacrifices of 19+K who were lost their lives. long live PIA and now do the right thing.

    • Mitiku Melesse

      Ya sure, it was Badme which stopped. Any way PIA has said there was no border problem with Ethiopia. The boarder was marked virtually. Meaning the constitution has been done virtually too giving Eritrea president for life. Wait til nature takes its course and dance your past ‘victory’.

  • Peace!

    Hi LT,

    Rather “is DIA happy” should be the real question given his power grip lies on wars: War with Sudan, Yemen, Djibouti, Ethiopia. Guess what? he never fails to create one, just get ready!!

    Peace!

  • Saleh Johar

    Hi Abi,

    I will endorse your motion the moment the last gwandie is out of the region. As for Fanti, I am intrigued… I saw someone with a dagger with the crowd in Raya who are allegedly demonstrating against PMAA decision to pull out of Badime 🙂 Didn’t you see that? I also watched a young girl crying her heart out for Badime, she said the decision is a betrayal of Wtiopiawinet.

    I hope Fanti is doing fine…

  • Saba

    Dear L.T,
    They can’t because:
    1) They are journalists, they have to be neutral & apolitical. So they can NOT advocate specifically for Eritrea & Eritreans including the return of Badme.
    2) Their number one objective is removing PIA.

    • Saba

      Dear Me
      U Can’t Touch This. Din da din. U Can’t Touch This POST.
      MC Hammering AT via LT:)

  • Saleh Johar

    Hi LT,
    Welcome back.

    Who said we are not happy? In fact, we started to celebrate three days ago and we are still at it. Join us if ou can 🙂

    • saay7

      SGJ:

      You misunderstood LTs question. Read it again please. He is not wondering why we are not happy; he is wondering why he thinks we are not happy. He wants you to explain why he thinks what he thinks.

      saay

      • Saleh Johar

        Oh Saay,
        Then a qari’at al funjal is still reading the coffee streaks? Crystal ball.

  • blink

    Dear L.T
    Who cares if they are happy or not ? They are one of the haves in a comfortable environment and their happiness or sadness has zero value to change anything . But can you trust Ethiopian leaders with promises and deals ?if we check history, Ethiopian leaders are known for breaking promises and they are the artist of lies. But Can the Oromo which he doesn’t come from the lies of Habesha deliver on his promises?

    If we check history , it doesn’t give you positive information at all.

    1.Remember, Ras Alula deceitful promise to Ras Weldenkiel?

    2.Haile Selassie’s broken promise?

    3.TPLF’s recent history of accepting EEBC ruling, and then reversing.
    4. The Indian agricultur investors
    5. Many lies …..

    Ethiopian leaders breathes lies and breaking promises and deals.

    All 3 are references from MS article.

    • abdulworld

      Hello Blink,
      I would recommend you take some political science courses. What you are talking about is hard and rough world we operate in.. why do you think Sun Tzu wrote the “art of war” and Machiavelli “the prince.”

      it is Realpolitik…

      In those days of Ras Alula- forget about what they did to Eritrean they were doing worst things to each other (Ethiopians… )
      Haile Selassie was playing chess at international level… Shrewd and diplomatic..
      TPLF accepting and not accepting the court ruling…
      I dont know about Indian argri.. investors..
      ..
      When it comes to International stage- the sad reality is Eritrean don’t play chess more Checkers.
      International dealing or politics is not about Trust… it is about doing your homework and watching for interest at every turn.

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Abdulworld,

        Well said brother.

      • blink

        Dear Abdulworld
        I am not a politician and I don’t intend to learn politics too but the reality is sir Ethiopian leaders have been lacking in trust , they don’t respect deals they signed.

        Hailesilasie signed federation canceled it
        Meles evil signed EEBC and denied it.

        It simply shows a pattern that Ethiopian leaders are not worthy of any deals. This is not playing chess sir. The Keren road is real constructed long time ago.

        • abdulworld

          Hello Blink,
          That is nature of the world we live in. I think it is narrow minded thinking to start saying whole people or country is distrustful, etc.
          I believe some Eritrean have a simplistic view or naive view of the world.
          We are not an empire-builder people. The Ethiopian, English, French, Chinese, etc.
          Most of our history has been as a middle ground for other empires.
          For example there is an Irish story…
          In 1920s, an Irish kid who came from school went to his grandfather all excite and hold him “Grandfather Grandfather the sun never sets on British Empire”
          The Grandfather quickly responded “That because God wouldn’t trust the English in the dark”
          This is something similar to your Keren road comment.
          Another thing also is Eritrea is new country or recently became a Independent entity…
          So, it is just learning how to walk at the international stage. It has had war with all its neighbors.
          Countries don’t operate with Trust.. they operate for their interest..
          Trust is something between you and your friend or close family members- not nations.
          Nations fight their interests. If Haile Selassie interest is to have Eritrea and its port- he will use federation to meet his interest? That is probably easier way than invading an independent country…
          The problem with all trust-talk with nations- it can lead to disasters results.

          • blink

            Dear Abdulworld
            From what I understand you are saying there is no international rules and obligations. Every thing has to with interest of the day . How do the WTO do its daily business. You know governments sale bonds and companies sale or buy in all this deal making is the center of it. You sign a deal and you do it but I don’t know if the weyane are not in this circle.

  • saay7

    Awatistas:

    Today I saw a picture of the people of Raya-Azebo (Tigray) protesting PM Abiye’s decision to return land that doesn’t belong to him. I was beginning to get worried about this (damn, here we go again) and then I remembered what our own Fanti Ghana (who is from Raya-Azebo) told us a long time ago: “my people protest and rebel with or without a cause.” Fanti? Please come and explain things.

    saay

    • halafi mengedi

      Saay,

      I think your concern is warranted. Many people in Tigray are not happy about the decision, understandably to an extend. With the waves of changes in the country, i think, they are feeling threatened.

      Any prediction what the response of Eritrean government is going to be (besides the current smug silence)?

      hm

      • saay7

        Halafi Mengedi:

        You didn’t see the response? Here’s a copy:

        “The Government and People of Eritrea has patiently awaited for the international community to shoulder its responsibility and enforce the final and binding border decision for the last 16 years. The border is virtually demarcated by EEBC and if the Prime Minister of the Federal Democratic of Ethiopia and his “handlers” truly believe in the “statement” they are alleged to have made, if it is not made for “PR consumption”, then they need to withdraw their troops from every inch of Eritrean territory as per the ruling of Commission. The People and Government of Eritrea have paid precious price to safeguard the country’s independence and territorial integrity and decline the “invitation” to join any circuitous talk designed to divert our agenda of national development.”

        Nah, just kidding. Just say a lot of words, put a lot of words in scary quotes and decline invitations.

        saay

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Saay,

          For the Eritrean Government, it is not about the border, it is about searching excuses to keep our people in to an endless bondage. Ethiopia has accepted the decision now without precondition. The Eritrean Government does not want to demarcate, because I think virtual demarcation is enough for them. If that is their response to the Ethiopian Government on the border issue, I do not think, our border will be demarcated under the current government and the suffering of our people will continue unabated. Let us see how the Ethiopian Government will response to their response.

          Regards

      • blink

        Dear HM
        The minister of information Charlie did gave a short reply and in reality there is no need for any reply from Eritrea different from the 16 years old acceptance of the border commission. What kind of reply are you looking? An invitation for the new PM ? Or what ?

        • halafi mengedi

          blink,

          already! you are going from ‘game on’ to accepting silent treatment and lame non-statement statement…you should demand more.

          hm

          • blink

            Dear HM
            It is too early to hire a party organizer sir . Really it doesn’t have any hint . I mean this is the first time ever Ethiopia accepted the EEBC. We shall see if he can walk the talk. Semora weta seare geba , the same TPLF.

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Blink,
            Are you sure this is “the first time Ethiopia accepted the EEBC”? I thought they have been making the same statement for the last 16 years as the PFDJ said… and I agree with that. They have always maintained the statement. But you can say, they never acted on it because they had a precondition. Now they want Eritrea to reciprocate. The secret is in the term RECIPROCATE. What does it mean? I think it is back to square one.

          • blink

            Dear SG
            I think the past 16 years they were telling us the 5 point plan and now there is only one and that is really tricky as you said . I don’t really remember an Ethiopian leader boldly accept the EEBC decision. Are you counting the PMH air ticket to Asmara ?

    • Saleh Johar

      Saay

      I Just saw your comment… I think I duplicated it…. proof for LT that we were together…. celebrating 🙂

  • Berhe Y

    Dear Gebrekidan,

    It’s not where to they withdraw that matters but they actually do to whatever might be.

    In other words give IA no excuse to stall the process.

    Berhe

  • Nitricc

    Greetings everyone: The last time I was on the forum, I was asking for your help in advising a friend and I didn’t get the chance to respond or update you in real time. I will get to that but in a mean time, I just want thank you for everyone tried to help. For now, let me say a few things that has been itching me, the move Ethiopia made. I was in Istanbul when the news broke, not only I didn’t get chance to take my take but the long flight gave me the chance to think about it.
    First, I might be wrong in doubting PMAA. I am not there yet, to give him his full preps because this privatization thing is very suspicious. The question is, if the economy that was/is growing in double digits, why mess with it? It must be other motives then, right? What are the reasons to privatization of those big institutions?

    A) Only people who have money can invest and benefit from this and you all know the
    money is with Weyane thugs. So, this move could give them the legal coverage they need for them to control the economy of Ethiopia and loot to the bone. this is my doubt over PMAA.

    B) By opening such investment opportunity, the Ethiopian government using this tactic
    to keep the money that was stolen from the people of Ethiopia in the country. Right now the weyanes are shipping the money outside the country. This move could help catch the thief’s too. Once they invested the money, launch an enquiry the source of the invested money. If found stolen, return it to the people who were rapped.

    C) This move is a desperate move that shows the country is bankrupt and they don’t give a flying hoot, just get the money and all the double digit growth is a lie.

    Think about it, I mean growing double digit is not easy and you would not want to mess with it. Whatever they do, I wouldn’t privatize Ethiopian airlines. It is not only Ethiopian national pride but it is an African one. Don’t do it unless you want to see a Chinese flag over yours and then, it will show you have sold your pride.
    Next the border thing.

    • Kokhob Selam

      Yes, Nitccay Yes brother,

      You are really nice part of this forum: – ኣባ ጥረግ!!

      “This move is a desperate move that shows the country is bankrupt and they don’t give a flying hoot, just get the money and all the double digit growth is a lie.”

      I start to wake up!! Lol..What a nice view !

      KS,,

      • Nitricc

        Hey KS, how are you my toothless friend lol. The financial thing their business but it doesn’t make sense. Like i was telling Mez, there are more issues for PMAA to deal with. It will be interesting how he deals with Effert. it is one thing to release prisoners TPLF opposes of but it is war when it comes Effert. We shall see. One things is let them vacate the land and we can go back to stand to PIA. Once they leave the land, Eritrea’s internal business will start there after. the question for the Ethiopians is why waste 20 years to do the right thing? It is a good for for Eritrea and the Eritrean youth. they paid the price.

        • Kokhob Selam

          Dear Nitccay Yes brother,

          “Once they leave the land, Eritrea’s internal business will start there after.”

          Yes, we shall see what will be the next..

          KS,,

    • Mez

      Dear Nitricc,

      What would be your piece of advice to best address the problem?

      Thanks

      • Nitricc

        Hi Mez; if you can tell me what will happen to Maytech and Effort, then i will give you very concise response. The largest Ethiopian economy is EFFERT, what will happen to this giant Ethiopian economy driver under the new privatization decree? You see, there is big issues face on PMAA has to face and the scenarios are not pleasant. the question must be answer is that, Is Effert the property of the Ethiopian people?

        • Mez

          Good Day Nitricc,

          No much information is really available as to what is happening inside EFFERT. YEAR IN YEAR OUT: No certified accoutant report, no external auditing, no policy paper, no performance bench mark. It is clearly a sad state of affairs. Only thieves may strive under such a situation.

          Thanks

          • Selam Mez,

            That is why PM Abiy said, “ግመልን የመሰለ ትልቅ ነገር ሰርቀው ሳያጎነብሱ ይራመዳሉ፣ ሌብነት ባህል ሆኗል፣ ” otherwise, “ የሌባ አይን አውጣዎች አገሪቷን ሞልተዋታል፣”. The level of corruption and theft in the ethiopian government and its affiliates is beyond imagination. Unless something is done right away, forget about development and economic prosperity.
            He even said that corruption and theft is worsening after the new government came to power. Thieves exploit unstable situations and the old establishment is in a hurry to steal as much as possible, because they worry about the future of their positions.

          • Mez

            Dear Horizon,
            It all depends really on what the PM-AAA government is going to do.

            1) I can imagine, he may call a conference on how to tackle tax loopholes, unauthorized labour (wors), businesses…. expose to the wider audience the “real time corruption as it is” and kick start things from there.

            2) his government has to be transparent, honest.

            Thanks

          • Nitricc

            Hey Mez; look at it anyway you want, this privatization thing is bad for Ethiopia at the current time and situation. Effert has the money to invest in any Ethiopia’s economic sector. Remember Effert is registered as endowment meaning untouchable by the government. I think the Ethiopian government must be pressured by IMF and the rest of the creditors. Just bad move.

          • Mez

            Dear Nitricc,

            I think you are mixing up things.

            1) Endowment, ngo, and the likes have their own legal life under the countrie’s law; one may want to go that way and find out their internal financial and mission/policy dynamics.

            2) the partial privatization of state owned companies is another process.

            3) Remember, state ownership is a hang-over from the communism era, still adorned by the Ethiopian government (and transformed in to religion-like-cult by the PIA in Asmara).

            Thanks as usual, General Nitricc.

          • saay7

            Nitrric:

            The creditors have spoken Nitrric. When a country faces a financial problem, then all the options it has to improve things are bad and unpopular. For example, one of the things it will eventually have to do is remove subsidies for imports like fuel. Now can you imagine what would happen with all the taxi drivers if cost of fuel went up by 100%? Hint: the collapse of the HSI govt was triggered by taxi drivers protest.

            So, I don’t think he has a choice. Well, he has a choice: he can tell them no because this is contrary to the principles of EPRDF and make an instant fan of Hayat:) But OPDO, EPRDF were always just vehicles for Abi’s king Abiye and he doesn’t believe any of that revolutionary democracy stuff.

            saay

            saay

          • Nitricc

            Hey SAAY; there is no question the Ethiopia is in a hard currency crunch but i believe the west and the US thinks that Ethiopia is to big to fail i.e. they bail her out. I was chatting with this person who is lower embassy personal while i was catching my flight and he told me that the US government is alarmed and uncomfortable by china’s control in Africa. They blamed Obama for that and the US government may do different things in Africa. So, maybe, just maybe, this is my take, that might be the reason they reach out to Eritrea and US officials flacking to Ethiopia. so, i think Ethiopia will be bailed out financially by the US for two reasons, to encounter chinese dominance of Africa and Ethiopia is too big to fail. just my take from the conversation i had with that person.
            Hey SAAY, is there any reason why you spelled my pen name as” Nitrric” as supposed to Nitricc? It is a pen name you can spell it the way you want, i am just something useless thing i noticed.

          • saay7

            Selamat Ntricc:

            The easy one first: it was a typo; there is no meaning attached to it. Probably from years of studying and doing poor in chemistry class and Nitric acid which is different from nitrous acid but not when it came to my grades. I have a Refugee Sal story about that; will tell you some other time, probably when our border is demarcated: no jokes for you until then.

            Today, the spokesperson of the UN Secretary Gerneral, Stéphane Dujarric, welcomed Ethiopia’s decision to fully accept the Algiers Agreement and the decision of the boundary commission and expressed the UN’s readiness to help. But for months, since the resignation of PM Hailemariam, the US embassy in Ethiopia has been making very assertive statements (I hope the lazyass in Asmara was taking notes) pressuring Ethiopia to release prisoners, lift the state of emergency, open up the political space in Ethiopia. And PM Abiye has been saying, check, check, check. It wouldn’t surprise me if President Trump takes full credit for it.

            saay

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Saay,

            It is good news the UN Secretary to welcome the Ethiopian decision on the border and their readiness to help the two governments in the implementation of the ruling. Second, you might be correct the heavy hand of the U.S. for the changes that are going in Ethiopia. But what it surprised me is the oil Issue. What is the credibility of the oil in Badume that has never been in the news of the oil discovery in that region?

          • saay7

            Emma:

            To tell you the truth, I had never heard that before until this guy said it and I would have dismissed it as the latest invention (the “we can’t separate communities from their church” changing into “we can’t separate communities from their oil.”, but the guy appears reasonably well-informed and plugged into Weyane-think.

            saay

          • Eyob Medhane

            Sal,

            It was some unconfirmed report that some partisans peddled for some time. The report was first published by oilprice.com a commodities speculation firm..

            http://www.tigraionline.com/articles/article130126.html

          • saay7

            Selamat Eyob:

            Ah, so. So now Tigray = Badme = oil?

            I should have known the original source is Tigraionline which is Tigray’s version of meskerem.net (mesherfet.) All these websites know how to do is just fanning.

            saay

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Brother Eyob Medhane,

            I Found from the same link the bellow poem,,,from ደመላሽ ድምሳቸው:

            “የሚበላ ዳቦም የላችህ እንኳን ነዳጅ ሊኖራቹህ :
            እናንተ አናዳጅ ብቻ ነው ያላችህ ::

            እንዳውም ትግሬ ከኢትዮጵያ ይውጣልን በሰላም እንኑርበት ትገሬ ማለት ኤርትራ ማለት ነው ትግሬዎች እንገንጠል ብለው እንደት ኢትዮጵያ ምድር ተቀምጠው ግራ ያጋቡናል፡፡ ይህ ማለት ኤርትራ እየገዛችን እንደሆነ ነው የምንቆጥረው ምክንያቱም መሪዎች ትግሬ በመሆናቸው፡፡

            ትግሬ መሬታችንን ይልቀቅ
            ትግሬ መሬታችንን ይልቀቅ::”

            You can also see the reply under this poem..

            KS,,

        • Mez

          Dear Nitricc, this EFFERT conglomerate is a (sort of) mess–to say the least.

    • Aron

      Hi nitric,
      I guess you did not hear Ethiopia is finally about to withdraw from the occupied territories. Very good news indeed. Celebrate and be happy. Our young may get a break unless dia have already created or found another hungugu. Don’t worry about Ethiopia my friend, the young pm looks like he got it under control. Get some rest.
      Aron the habesha.

      • blink

        Dear Aron
        Issias is asking the old map of Kessela, can he find something to digg . Lol

        • sara

          blink dear,
          returned to kassala from seney on Friday, and returning on back again at the end of Ramadan for the Eid holidays.
          i could send you KERKED recipe instead of kassala map.

        • Aron

          Hi blink,
          He must have plan b otherwise how would he rule 20 to 30 years .
          Aron the habesha.

      • Nitricc

        Hey Aron, Trust me, i have a planty things to say about the border things. Many on this forum won’t like it but as usual, i tell and defend the truth. This is the greatest day for the people of Eritrea and for that matter for the people of Ethiopia. the only huge losers on this one are the Eritrean opposition. I will explain. Thanks Aron.

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Selam George,

    No Issayas war drum beating. The archives of his speech shows. Do you remember when he alluded them as “empty vessel that gives noise only.” Do you remember when he reminds by saying “ አበይደአ አለኹም መስከረም (ቀውዒ) አሕሊፍና ክንመጸኩም ኢናንዶ ትብሉ አይነበርኩምን“ወዘተርፈ ጽዊዒት ውግእ ኣይነበረን’ድዩ? ንዓባ ጆርጅ ሓንቲ መዓልቲ ሓቂ ተዛረብ:: ክሳዕ መዓስ ኢኻ ነዚ ሰይጣን መጥፍኢ ህዝቢ ትካላኸል? ንምኻኑ እዚ ናይ ዶብ ጉዳይ ምስተፈትሔ’ኸ ሕቶ constitutionality and rule of law ተልዕል’ዶ ትኸውን? ዝኾነ ኾይኑ ግዜ ክምህረና እዩ:: በልስከ ናይ ዜግነት ወሃብን ከላእን’ከ መዓስ ኢኻ ኮይንካ?

    ሰናይ መዓልቲ ንኹሉ
    ሓውኻ አ.ሕ.

  • Mez

    Dear Hope, I wanted to know more first-hand. Is there something wrong with my inquiry. If some one says something it shall be substantiated, correct?

    Thanks

  • Mez

    Dear @George

    Please forget what you are saing about USA and focus on your local/ regional problem how to go ahead.

    No more cheating in the name of “fighting againest US”. That time shall be over.

    Thanks

  • Yosief Tewolde

    Peace to all. The acceptance of Ethiopia, about the boundary issue is an immense challenge to the Eritrean rule. This said, the strategy of having conflicts around at every given time, in my opinion instated to shut the people, where they ask about freedom, democracy…the answer would be ‘we are at war’…

  • blink

    Dear George
    I don’t understand what you mean center really. Your center may not be mine and vs is true . I don’t like Issaias and that is based on the reality not my own twisting . The man is not fit to rule us . We need a justified life sir and under his vision we cannot have. Try to see my views as Eritrean not as PFDJ supporter because I don’t support them. There is a big difference between PFDJ and Eritrea .

  • Warsai

    I agree with you Hope. I am really surprised by the title as Ethiopia never accepted the border resolution with out a condition before. I think Gedab news is not happy that Ethiopia has finally accepted the EEBC resolution with out any PRECONDITION and they are acting (their article above) as if there is nothing new or no change at all regarding the border resolution. All these years, Ethiopia was saying lets talk first and then implement the result ion. This is big news and it is very promising. Both people of Eritrea and Ethiopia are happy. I am praying the border will be demarcated soon and the r/ship between the two countries/people will get neutralized in no time.

  • Paulos

    Selam My Good People,

    “Medrek” has risen to the occasion and called on Ethiopia to immediately pull its troops out of Eritrean territory if Ethiopia meant serious business.

    When the de jure government opted for “seek and hide” and acts as if no one is knocking on its door, the Opposition should form a government in exile so that the opportunity will not be missed before the regime turns it into a crisis.

    • Hope

      Selam Dr Paulos:
      I agree with U that Opposition should have plan B,which has failed in doing so thus far.
      I gave up literally on the Opposition Camp when my own Party ,The EPDP ,broke down into pieces.
      But do u agree with Medrekh ‘s staunch and PATRIOTIC position though?
      If so,please SAY it LOUD and send a C to FishMilk!

      • Paulos

        Selam Hope,

        If patriotic means calling on Ethiopia to pull out its troops, I certainly agree with that.

      • blink

        Dear Hope

        What’s the things that Eritrea has to say about this ? The PM must walk the talk because Eritrea accepted the border decision before 16 years . I don’t know what exactly is required from Eritrea . Are you guys waiting for the same reply that Eritrea gave before 16 years ?

        • Kokhob Selam

          Dear Mr, blink,

          “ውሕጅ ከይመጸ መገዲ ውሕጅ ጽረግ ” እዩ ምስላ ዓድና :

          “መርገጺና እዉጅን ንጹርን እዩ። ስምምዕ ኣልጀርስ ይኹን ውሳኔ ዶብ፡ ብዘይወላውል፡ ካብ ንቕበሎ 16 ዓመታት ‘ቆጺሩ ኣሎ።”

          why did Charlie replied like this? You must know the cause was not as simple as you and me think..

          Why is so big deal in regard of Badme? Search some other reason to find the cause of this war and solution is there..

          KS,,

          • blink

            Dear KS
            There may be another reason but the key problem was and still is about an Ethiopian force occupation of Eritrean land that is the number one key. Charlie said that the final and binding agreement was accepted by Eritrea and that closes the door for more military recruits, this is a great gift to Eritreans especially to the youth . I don’t believe Eritrea has to say anything because what can Eritrea say about this . Ethiopia is doing its international obligation and in that it doesn’t need Eritrea’s reply . What ever reason you have as Meles said “ was no border issue “ so the Eritreans has to see if the current government can walk the talk.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Thank You blink,

            Thank you,,let us see in near future..What will happen!!!

            KS,,

    • Abrehet Yosief

      Selam Paulos,
      Did you see the brief exchange of Amb Andeberhan with PM Hailemariam during the 2018 Mo Ibrahim Forum? All this was played out during that exchange.

      • Paulos

        ሰላም ፍትውትን ክብርትን ሓፍተይ,

        ‘ዘልክዮ ቢድዮ ኣይርኣኽዎን፣ ዝኾነ ኾይኑ ሰብ መድረኽ ክሙጎሱ ‘ለዎም ባሃላይ’የ። ሰላም ምዕልቲ።

        • Berhe Y

          Dear Paulos and Abrehet,

          Just curious why did they chose to call themselves “Medrek”, when there was another Ethiopian opposition party called “Medrek”?

          They are more relevant to me now, but kind of taken back by the lack of originally or more lack there off. It’s kind of confusion, no.

          Berhe

          • Paulos

            Selam Berhino,

            That is a good question. They don’t claim to be a political party. Much more kind of either a pressure group or facilitators as in a stage for a national dialogue, hence መድረኽ.

          • Denmarkino Professor Paul and Atto Berhe_Y YeErukhtey,

            Yes you are right per the founding the organization set out to create a forum. Forum means መድረኽ. (I think I was a member and an elected wana tSeHafi local chapter both in the east and west coast. i.e EPF in its formation and early days, then one day the Admiral may have advised me to maintain independence and sole sovereignty of SELF. Solomun Eide Liberation Front )

            Some folks a few days ago were questioning why FRONT (elf, eplf, olf, tplf.. etc…) in the era of the jungle and guerrilla rules. I think Ethiopian Medrek and this Eritrean Medrek is analogs to “Front.” In times of peace or absence of ovtert violence/war, Forum replacing Front makes sense, I think (….. to self this darn six pack fat tire I consumed,,, good night folks.)

            tSAtSE

  • Kim Hanna

    Selam @george,

    You boldly and with conviction said…..”Deep inside I always think that they will get us back one day.”

    It is shocking to me. Are you listening to that demon in you. That explains a lot in your other posts.
    You are not in any position to give advice to anyone. Heal thyself first. If that “Chiraq” exists in you, everything you say comes with that contamination. I have nothing further to say.

    Mr. K.H

    • Selam Kim Hanna,

      When somebody is obsessed with something that does not exist anymore, he/she may believe the opposite, in this case it may mean, “get us back one day, because we can’t without you”. You may remember that Abi had once said, the independence is not only for eritrea, but for ethiopia as well. Ethiopians have internalized this fact and they have moved on.

      Look at others, they hate ethiopia vehemently, nevertheless they can’t live without breathing addis ababa air, and they do not miss ethiopia if they travel to eritrea. The amiche phenomenon is the worst thing that happened to both countries. If they were not around, ethiopians and eritreans would have forgotten each other by now, and each country would have found its own way.

      • Kim Hanna

        Selam Horizon,

        You might be right. Remember G’heteb’s pronouncements and historical explanations for everything. His competitive drive took him back centuries to declare “Adulisian” civilization to match Axum and all the rest. It was quite amusing.

        To be fair, most of us discussing issues and what not filter things through our own experiences and some facts we picked up along the way. And there are people like this guy and G’heteb who march to a different drummer.

        The only good news is the current Ethiopians and Eritreans are informed with their own different experiences. This deep seated hatred and suspicions are on the way out.
        I venture to say that in the Eritrean’s case the people under 40 are different Eritreans. They are informed with their own experiences.

        The old connection is broken. In due time the new Ethiopians and the new Eritreans will find a different practical way of relating to each other.

        Mr. K.H

      • blink

        Dear Horizon and Kim
        It seems you both perfected the use of out of context . He also said it will never happen . And for anyone benefit why would Eritrea go back to the land of killers . I mean we have seen you feudalism, Dergi and last Ethnic developmental state and as you can all did not work for you well . The land of tribes and Ethnic politics is no green for Eritreans . Let’s just sit where we are but first Abyi has to remove his boots from Eritrean land and after that there is no obligation for Eritrea to have warm relationships with a state that have ethnics at each other’s throat.

        • Selam blink,

          Why do you say that ethiopia is the land of killers, when hundreds of thousands of eritreans are in ethiopian refugee camps, an equal number are living within the ethiopian society, and thousands run to ethiopia every month? Do you believe that an eritrean is scared to say that he is an eritrean as he roams the city of addis or anywhere else in ethiopia? I do not think so.

          Be sure, peace, freedom and prosperity are not going to come, because the border impasse is solved, unless change in mentality and policy change towards the region and the world comes with it. People will turn against the regime and will start to fight dictatorship is a myth. Dia/pfdj iron grip will worsen, and nobody is going to raise his/her finger against the regime.

          If there are no signs of revolution upto now over the last three decades with the socio-economic situation at its nadir, revolution is not going to be born now, because badme is returned to eritrea, for badme and demarcation were not the real problems of eritrea, but appeasing with a dictator.

          Are there not ethnic groups and tribes in eritrea? As long as there are, there will always be ethnic politics, because there are no human beings who do not want to defend their rights. Now, if they can or not is another story. The era of “hadi hizbi and hadi libi” is gone forever, and every ethnic group and tribe has seen its result. Eritrea should learn to respect the rights of her ethnic groups and tribes before they start to demand it themselves, although they are already doing so. Ethnic politics will be in the villages and communities of every ethnic group, and will always be there until it is solved.

          • blink

            Dear Horizon
            I don’t blame you ,after all you are one of the reasonable guy around but to see you beat the out of context sentence was not your style at all ,that was the reason I brought the act of Ethiopian leaders as killers.

            Now ,can PFDJ be challenged ? Yes and infact I believe the public will not be ok with endless national service and due process of justice. Forget about the thousands in Ethiopia, because I can tell you even in Mekele and Addis ,Eritreans insult Tigrians on day light and that shows you how deep Eritreans go to say on the side of Eritrea. The refugee number is simply not that a reason for any love that you may think we have for Ethiopia because we don’t have any . I have three family members who were in Addis for 3 years and when they come to the west they imply no love for Ethiopian leaders and especially to Meles.

            Don’t read too much to the Old Eritreans opposition understanding about Eritreans, I ask you to see two sides with open mind so that you can have your own definition about Eritreans because I believe you will draw your own views with out looking at people like Mr. Amanuel views. These people have zero knowledge about the current Eritreans.

  • Saleh Johar

    Hi @george,

    You admire him to your heart’s content, but don’t ask me to do the same. Of curse, you would enjoy people facing him with guns-isn’t all the problem related to the violent attitude of his supporters?

    You don’t want me to list all the cruel tyrants in history who had a lot of guts, tiny brains, lots of action, and zero compassion. I agree he is one of them. Of course, I write from the comfort of my home, I am glad I am not in one of his prisons like the thousands who have disappeared and betrayed by many who cheered them when they were free. If that was the case, you wouldn’t read what I and my colleagues write. The rotten PFDJ culture is one I do not need a gun to fight. And my thermometer, of how effective that is, can be gauged by reactions like yours.

    In brief, I am glad I do not support injustice….. your turn, dear 🙂

  • blink

    Dear Alex
    True it is up all Eritreans to demand justice and a constitutional government, the only question is , what kind of justice? For example a kunama mini state is the ultimate justice for kerenolos and a mini afar state is what is pushing some crazy one around. So which justice are we speaking? Removal of PFDJ can’t be the ultimate goal of all but since someone is pushing for power by affirmative action and that dream will never happen .
    So what are you looking will determine the journey from now on. What kind of justice are you going to get ?

    For someone who is deeply committed to a militaristic change , the change for such people will not come, so choose your side because the game is on now and it is serious that can cost live .

  • Saleh Johar

    Thank you Hope,
    Only one answer addresses my concern: when everybody realizes the PFDJ is an illegitimate entity and anything they say starts from that conviction. The gangs are keeping Eritrea because it is in their nature, it has nothing to do with the issues they ride to justify their chocking of Eritreans. It is not keeping us hostage because of the boundary, they did it well before that and will continue doing it long after demarcation, if it materializes.

  • Saleh Johar

    Hi Alex,
    I don’t think you understood my position. I will never ask the PFDJ to do anything but to get lost. If you are asking the PFDJ to do this and that, it means you recognize its stature as a legitimate ruler. You cannot ask your kidnapper to obey you, you have to relentlessly try to break free. I wouldn’t ask the PFDJ to decide on a bus ride fare let alone entrust it with a constitution. The moment you realize they are illegitimate, things will be clearer.

  • FishMilk

    Hi All. In the country that I am now in, I had a passing conversation today with the Ethiopian Ambassador, who I have know from1989 Shire joint offensive days. We both expressed our optimism over PM Abiy’s recent announcements. The Ambassador mentioned, while laughing, that he had already heard that news on privatization, had been negatively received by some Ethiopians, as they were claiming that it was a ploy to allow the rich TPLF to gain controlling interest in ET airlines, telecommunications, etc. Towards the end, I told the Ambassador that I hoped to soon invite him for a cold Asmara beer in Asmara and he smiled and said that he would invite me to Shire to drink a cold Raya beer. It was great for a change, to be able to have a warm and not frigid conversation, with the Ambassador. I’m off tomorrow for a couple of weeks in Asmara and thereafter onto Addis Ababa for a week. Stay well and maintain optimism! Winds of change have arrived!

    • Paulos

      FM,

      I suspect the conversation happened in your head. Get real dude!

    • Mitiku Melesse

      Hei, if you dont know tplf it is difficult for you to understand. tplf by its mafia system controlled the wealth and business in Ethiopia. Since they lost the political battle (antagonizing other ethnic groups so that tplf steal what ever the antagonized ethnics have) the tele, the air lines and some more governmental business which have been the cow milk of tplf couldnt be left for what ever government replacing the woyane government according to the Dedebit plan. Bot the tele and the airline are superb profiting business so it is felt by tplf and Tigray like Tigray private property must be shared with the rest. This is what business and politics for tplf Ethiopians. Ethiopia means business home is Tigray.

      Badme was never the issue. The issue was how to get the upper hand what goes out or in to Ethiopia.

      • Mez

        Hi Mitiku,
        Any reference about the money?

    • Abi

      Hi FM
      As usual very fishy!
      Did you also tell the Ambassador that your dream is to see Ethiopia explode?
      Well, what do we expect from a serpent with double tongues? None.

      • Hope

        Abi:
        What made U to comment suck a “ snakey” and “serpentine” comment?
        It is an optimistic peace-oriented comment!
        You are a Sea Snake(the most poisonous snake),indeed!

        • Natom Habom

          dear Hope
          Hope you told him sea snack .I laughed a lot
          well said bro

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Selam George,

    Why all this pessimism, brother? Forget about Rxs. Talk about political diplomacy, the only treatment to our political ailments.

    • @george

      Dear Amanel hidrat
      I always bring you up I’m passing because I cannot believe an educated person one that called himself Eritrean will admire Meles. I respect you for your educational achievement, but I can’t say the same thing about your judgement when it comes to tplf. Not too long ago you were bragging how clever they were. You must understand, that I understand and respect your right to oppose the government. But when you try to legitimised a country that was occupying a land that does not belong them and you’re supporting them, try to justify their actions not to mention you repeatedly suggested they should do what they call a surgical attack on Eritrea. Don’t you know we have brothers and sisters in the front line. As we speak I have a 28 year old brother serving the government while taking care of a 70 your old lady not mention or are cousins or nieces in the front line. Some have passed the marriage age. Here you are suggesting the tplf do a surgical attack. That just insane. And you lovey dovey with Ethiopians. Most of them don’t care. They don’t have to fight a war. You have no family member in the front line. They got a hundred twenty million people it doesn’t affect them like it affects us. That’s what makes us angry and bitter. And Eritrean government from day one has been asking Ethiopia to move.

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam George,

        First thank you for your engagement. We need it badly in order to reconcile each other for the sake of our people to have peace and tranquillity and to give hope our young generation to build our nation.

        Let me state the obvious and answer the qualms you have on my political positions. First, I was a lonely voice in my area to stop the senseless border in every gathering sponsored by the Eritrean Government. Unfortunately, to no avail. These was and is my position (a) I supported the US/Ruwands proposal early on before both sides went to full fledged conventional war (b) I supported the Algeris agreement (c) I supported the decision of the EEBC (d) I support the two governments to talk in the process of implementing the demarcation hoping their talks could address the grievances of the Eritrean/Ethiopian people at the border areas because the decision of the commission allows if only both sides agree. Keep in mind that some Eritrean villages in the Southern region are given to Ethiopia. This is still my firm believe. For most Eritreans only the village Badme is their concerns and we have it by the ruling. For Amanuel the other villages are equally important like Badme. George, do we have different opinion on this,I think so.

        Second, do I admire Meles Zenaw as a person? Yes I do with good reasons. Here are my reason (a) He voted against a war in the parliament when the Ethiopian Parliament declared a war – only he executed the war as executive when he lost in the parliament (b) He helped young Eritreans to enroll in their universities. These are very critical matter to me (c) his leadership and his vision driven on “developmental state” that are focused to eradicate hunger and to expand infrastructural developments gave Ethiopia a new monumental beginning. Now we can agree to disagree on this view I have. What me and you as Eritrean should agree by any means is, when it comes to the interest of our people and interest of our nation. And I don’t believe we disagree on this matter. Finally, we disagree on the policy of the Eritrean regime. So brother what we need to debate is on ideas that unite us and on issue of constitutionality, rule of law, freedom of expression that could transform our society. It is okay and healthy citizen to have different opinions as far as we respect each other.

        Regards

  • Natom Habom

    my Dear george
    you sound the G15 over reaction on the war ,their paranoia that we will be eaten
    put the country at stake , don t you think there is other peoples that also have brain in Eritrea that can evaluate the situation,if what you said is true then no other choice than to prepare for war
    Eritrea was preparing for the worse since long time ,there is no trust in Ethiopia or the International comunity but we don t know yet ,maybe also Dr Abiy is sincere ,let give a chance to hope for peace.

  • Selam All,

    What else should ethiopia do other than sending a letter to the UN and maybe other organisations and governments, declaring that by a certain date she will have vacated the disputed area? Why does she want eritrea to reciprocate, provided all the actions that should be taken lie on the ethiopian side? Is somebody playing games here?

    • blink

      Dear Horizon
      The Abyi government has to tell the Ethiopian people first then UN , AU , US and EU that way it will corner PFDJ by keeping the key at their hand. The reciprocate thing is all about peace nothing to do with the border because Eritrea doesn’t occupy Ethiopian land as per the Algeris Agreement . If Abyi wish to play he would not dare to take the world as deaf . This is serious decision and I do think we should wait how this can go forward.

      • Selam blink,
        The thing i am trying to interpret is that when eritrea is asked to “reciprocate and work towards bringing a lasting peace” (i have seen this phrase again in the past), could it mean, “we have accepted the eebc decision fully as you wanted us to do, now, let’s sit and negotiate to bring a lasting peace”, a thing dia/pfdj had rejected in the past, especially the negotiation part.
        Let us wait and see, as you said, is the only logical answer.

        • Berhe Y

          Dear Horizon,

          I don’t think PM Abiy is playing with words without meaning. If that was the case, what he said in his speech was enough. His government doesn’t need to state what was said for no reason, in other words, no body could have compelled him to do so.

          This is part of the official statement that I read at EPRDF website.

          “Nowadays, Ethiopia is committed to unconditional implementation of the December 2001 Algiers Agreement.
          Ethiopia has until now insisted on the need for negotiations with Eritrea so that the healthy and brotherly-sisterly relations and interactions of these two countries to become sustainable and settlement of peace around the region and the Horn needs to be given priority unquestionably.”

          The key sentence here ” Ethiopia is committed to unconditional implementation of the December 2001 Algiers Agreement.”.

          So Ethiopia does it’s part without condition and it asks Eritrea to do the same. Part of the agreement is for the actual demarcation to take place, which will involve the co-operation of both governments.

          Berhe

          • Mitiku Melesse

            Funny Ethiopia and tplf is considered as one entity.

          • Mez

            Hi Mitiku,
            any change?

          • blink

            Dear Mitku
            Don’t act like you don’t know that to be true. It has been such since effort controlled Ethiopia. Since when was Ethiopia different from TPLF I mean if you begin your day from 1991. Ethiopians lost their nationalism to Ethnicity by the sheer force of weyane. That is a fact .

          • Mitiku Melesse

            In case you need refreshing your memory i will update you about your ethnic group. Shabianism is a northern Tigreans elite ideology where tigrians must have the upper hand with the help of orthodox religion while woyaneism is southern tigrians elite ideology

            Shabia and woyane or tplf and eplf are same group of people who disagreed how to share the wealth of none-tigre ethnic groups from both Eritrea and Ethiopia. The plan worked until 1998 while greed spoiled for woyane and shabia people who wanted to wipe one another from the surface of the earth.

            I hope you understand why woyane and shabia wanted to massacre one another on the peace of land both did not care after or before the war. You know it i know it everybody knows it that it is not about Badme. If the other ethnic groups work together to shake off the elite tigrians then both tigrians wll be united like they had done before 1998. 1998 was maybe a mistake of two strong headed party leaders twisted way of seeing their power house a disguised blessing for the non-tigrians. Imagine the two parties never had the problem in 1998. Only the thinking gives me panic attack. Dont get me wrong that i am against the unity of tigrians. What i am against is imagine the two evils join hands. It would be catastrophe. It is just like multiplying our suffering by 100 times.

        • Mez

          Dear Horizon,

          1) ( I agree), To start with there must be good coordination and a possible plan b or c in place.
          2) what is Ethiopia going to get disadvantaged if it’s Army vacate the Badme area tonight?
          3) it can go ahead and still look after its interest in many ways.

          It is just a twisted superiority/inferiority complex or pride for nothing.

      • sara

        blink habibna..
        simply– Ethiopia has to cancel the state of war declared by parliment
        (as they did with their state of emergency)
        then– also the army vacate the occupied land ..
        ( show the army leaving the area as done in many places)

  • DreadFool

    Selam! The war is over long live the war? Now what’s Isaias gonna do? Quick get him a new boogieman, oh wait, there’s Sudan, let’s light over a fig tree by the Red Sea.

    • Natom Habom

      selam Dreadfool
      why linking issayas departure with the sovereignity of Eritrea
      the question what now for the so called opposition that was embeded
      with the enemy ,that opposition wh0 denied badime ,
      we don t know yet if its real or some kind of trap ,we will see
      what the futur tell us

      • DreadFool

        could be a Trojan camel?

  • Brhan

    Hello Awate,

    Good news. But a correction is needed to your article and here is a source to the correction:
    https://www.opride.com/2018/02/14/ethiopia-frees-muslim-leaders-political-prisoners-renewed-push-reforms/

    Ramadan Kerim!

  • Kim Hanna

    Selam Hope,

    Where is this 875 km come from. In any case, sometimes the “875km” can be shorter in time than the 60km, depending on the transportation model. When you add security and reliability it becomes more economical.
    Oops, I am not economist or politician, I forgot.

    Mr. K.H

  • abdulworld

    Hello George,
    You are missing a why in your analysis. Libya has Gold. Black Gold. Eritrea has what? No one is preaching peace just agreeing to follow court ruling.

  • iSem

    Hi All:
    What Ethiopia is doing at the home front, releasing political prisoners is a good will and this shows that the change of the old guard is genuine, that a new PM wields some power, contrary to what some have said that a PM outside TPLF does not have real power.
    But Ethiopia’s reiteration of its acceptance of the EEBC is not new, MZ reiterated, PMHD reiterated and now PMAA is doing the same. And nothing happened. It was just reiteration.
    But whether Ethiopia leaving the Eritrean land that it “does not occupy” has any meaning in the fight against tyranny is the real question. Will Eritrea make the desired change toward justice that is PFDJ leading the implementation of the conts that has not been written yet or whether the Eritrean people will once again be the pawns in the power consolidation in the region, like they became in the after math of the independence when TPLF and EPLF conspired against them and now EPRDF, finding a new opportunity to do the same for its own security, for its own sake, for the sake of a united Ethiopia that IA and PFDJ are willing to help as IA grudgingly accepted the ever bulking muscle of Ethiopia ( Ethiopia has become goblel of the region) . So depressing to fathom. Our lens should be what ever Ethioia does with PFDJ advances our struggle agaisnt the tyrant and we should stop the nonsensical kebero junkie mentality, our border is demarcated and that it was celeberated colorfully
    I do not blame the opposition for going to Addis, I do not even blame them for collaborating with Ethiopia to change regime, I blame them for their visionless two decades’ trek. And if Ethiopia and PFDJ make peace, it will not business as usual in the opposition camp stationed in Addis, we will see defection fake “hadnet” with PFDJ, the spy opposition that PFDJ has planted changing tune and it will be blood bath for the oppotion, not the blood bath we have seen in the 1990s but much worse, insidious purging and the opposition would have not place to hide. And the Eritrean people will be given one more chance to show what they are made of: if Ethiopia leaves the Eritrean land that it does not occupy and if the Eritrean people will say to PFDJ, now what? Woyane has left, implent the const, write the const, stop the endless national service that has turned to slavery. Close the Warsay Ykaalo school in Sawa that is uneducationg our kids. Or will we will buy into the new PFDJ excuse.
    When and if the border is settled, the opposition will be tested if it is nimble enough to withstand the shock, because Ethiopia cannot have normal relations with Eri under PFDJ and host the opposition at the same time. And he Eri people will also be tested.
    Our region is changing: Sudan, the failed state Yemen and Ethiopia’s new found power and after all the Erirean Embaye Melekin may not be the laughing stock that he was in the 1990 when her wrote Abyssinia Shall Rise”. Isolate and fearing for its surval may even negotiate with Ethiopia, Badme is symbolic for both and they will find ways to quell the demands, the Eritrean side of the equation is easy, there is no demand, the supports will forget their feisty stance of never negotiate but I believe IA ready to negotiate and once again we justice and democracy along the Eri people will the pawns if the Eri people do not show the guts to stand up against PFDJ

    • Paulos

      Selam Semerile,

      I completely agree with your brilliant comment. Thank you!

    • Berhe Y

      Dear iSem,

      I agree to your comments. Two things you already touched.

      Ethiopia based opposition
      What’s the worst that can happen, if Ethiopia made peace for its own interest? I think they should anticipate to leave Ethiopia and be prepared for it. This may be dire scenario for the opposition but assuming that most of them have places they can go to, other residence, then they should be prepared for that eventuality.

      Is this the worst to the Eritrean opposition
      If we look at the current situation, yes it will be different and it will be bad. But from over all effectiveness of the opposition, would they lose out a lot? I don’t think so, I never thought, TPLF was a good partner with good faith as far as Eritrean opposition was concerned and I can’t say they did help them much. If anything, the opposition were much stronger and much more united around 2001 before they went to Ethiopia.

      What would be their future?
      With the internet (although Eritrea is hard to pentrate), they will be better off fighting the PFDJ regime with media and information from where ever they are. It will be easier and much easier to conduct virtual conferences and they can be more effective fighting the PFDJ. Like you said, they will have better chance of defeating the regime by helping people raise awareness and fight the system from within, just as what Ethiopians were able to do.

      The only point I don’t agree is this time Ethiopia’s offer of peace is not the same as last time. For example, if Ethiopia withdraws from Badime and invite the SC to send observers when it is doing so, then there is nothing Eritrea can do to refute it.

      PFDJ is really cornered right now. I will think IA will play along and take the credit rather than fight it. I think his independence speech was, along the same line.

      Berhe

      • iSem

        Hi Berhe Y:
        Nothing to disagree with this comment. I will just add this:
        Yes! PFDj is cornered, but the question is what will the response to the stimuli of cornering? Would it make concessions with the Eri people towards truth and reconciliation or opt for the low hanging fruit once again gambling with the future of justice and democracy. It can do both; Truth and reconciliation with the people and peace with Ethiopia. failing that, it can keep the statuesque and make peace with us the people, reconcile, mend its ways, make up, release all political prisoners, account for the dead. But if history is any guide, it will not do that, it will go for the easiest one, making peace with Ethiopia and that is oxymoron, there is no already peace with Ethiopia, there is no war, except the normal border issues like Egypt has with Sudan, it just needs to strengthen bilateral relationship The opposition? they have not diversified, Sudan is the wild west that they could have gained ground and plan B. Media fight is good, but only effective for the diaspora and that has been done better by the independent opposition. They have to have presence with the people inside as ultimately, durable change, change that matters must come from inside, the diaspora is the agent, the catalyst for the by virtue of the freedom it enjoys. If the opposition has failed the Eri people, it is not because they rode the Woyane tanks as Semere Tesfay is fond of saying, but for not playing their hand dealt to them correctly, for their myopia, for their luck of ironing their difference during some of the promising initiatives we have witnessed over the last 17 years. Whether Ethiopia accepts the ruling and leaves the dusty Badme is irrelevant, any “peace” between Ethiopia and PFDJ that does not lead to immediate release of prisoners, a good will gesture by PFDJ to commorate the “peace” is just for the stone and tree huggers that are gung-ho about territories and not the welfare of the entity that matters; the Eritrean people. Even some of the traditional and independent and smart opposition are confused about this, they think they are free: Free from what?

        • blink

          Dear isem
          First the border issue with Ethiopia has nothing to do with the releasing of prisoners . PFDJ could have released them before 17 years and they could have done more about constitutional government yet they don’t. Ethiopian government has always been the cheater and the mob in chief yet the truth always come swinging by crushing HIWUHAT lunatics as well as Eritreans who benefited from this problem. My question is where will the lunatics run ?

          If this border issue with Ethiopia got solved today the next question for all Eritreans has to be , give us our life ? Of course that will not include the lunatics.

          Semere will sing Eritrean national Anthem?

      • @george

        Dear Berhe
        With all due respect, if tplf finally leaves Eritrean territory, PIA we come smelling roses. In other words, the whole world will know that it is Ethiopia short-sighted policy that was keeping peace hostage. Eritrea Standing Tall. It is your Ethiopia that has changed its mind a thousand times what are attractive saying the same thing what are attractive saying the same thing since day one. A fact no matter how much you try to twist you cannot deny. Now you come out and saying that Eritrea is cornered it’s just pathetic. It make no sense at all. We got what we want, what we ask for, how are we corner. Ethiopia kept is word we would not be in this position you know it and I know it and everybody know it. Give it a rest bro it just doesn’t look good buddy. The optic for tplf looks very bad. The economy is collapsing, creditors are knocking the door asking for their money all that white elephant project it’s not bearing fruit. You just have to admit you’ve been checked. Just pray that we live in peace from here on. We have brothers Cousins Sub in the Frontline for decade stay in your lane would all be fine. I’m sure everything will let you guys use the port.
        Yours

        • Berhe Y

          Dear @george,

          If like you said, IA “come smelling roses” then all the better. I will not have a problem with it and I don’t think any one else would.

          When I say he is cornered, what I mean is that, as most people have been advocating, the internal pressure to resist IA rule will increase. Any way, let’s leave that for another day and focus on the current issue at hand, how is Eritrea going to play this new development.

          Berhe

  • Mitiku Melesse

    Hei.
    A confusing news. Is it about the border or the hundred or so brave students struggle against the dictators (those who blame only the president is the dictator are really funny) in Asmara?

    Let me assume the news is about the boarder. First and foremost I feel sorry for those who offered their dear lives and their closer ones in a war where the Shabia government in Eritrea and the Woyane in Ethiopia manipulated to stay in power with merciless control. Woyane has been challenged from day one by Ethiopians where as the Eritreans case is totally different.

    The shabian government has not been challenged by Eritreans except the two Muslims incidents General Ali who sacrificed in attempting to topple the shabia government and those brave Muslim students who protests in the closure of their school and offcourse the Afar movement. Other wise what the Ethiopians have done and sacrificed to topple the woyane government has no much with the Eritreans struggle against their government at all. In the process Ethiopians have learnt a lot in building democracy though Ethiopia was unfortunate in having Woyane which has a catastrophic ethnic based twisted Tigray first policies in a country with many many ethnic groups.

    The eritrean oppositions are good in one thing reporting the dictators in both Ethiopia and Eritrea.

    Back to the boarder. Woyane used the boarder war to control the port/s Ethiopia is using. What woyane has been doing is that whether the port is from Eritrea or any where else woyane must have full control in the port business concerning Ethiopia. The problem in using Shabians port is that shabia too has its own agenda how to control on the business of Ethiopia. The two are the same concerning Ethiopia. They dont give a hoot about Ethiopia and Ethiopians. The difference is one says it is not Ethiopian the other says it is Ethiopian.

    Peace between the two countries is the alpha and omega for the two peoples. Woyane seams to understand it is time to stop in dwelling war among ethnic groups or Eritrea. The shock news is that for the dictators in Eritrea. What excuse they can give for going backward in all aspects of Eritrean development. Not they are afraid of their oppositions or for that matter all Eritreans who tolerate the oppressive government for the last 27 years but for their editorials. What can they talk about if the boarder is accepted by Ethiopia and Ethiopia still refuse to use the ports. Awate will be the eritrean winner. They have more stuffs to write about be it about Ethiopia or Eritrea.

  • Amde

    Hello abdulworld,

    Nope.

    There are a thousand and one reasons why this doesn’t make sense now. I can only imagine there must be a few other centipedes in the game with many other shoes to drop.

    The privatization announcement by itself is quite momentous. Maybe the two are related..ranging from using the news of one as smokescreen for the other, to (facebook rumors alert) allowing Eritrea to invest in Ethio companies with an Assab quid pro quo in the mix.

    The foreign currency crunch is real but otherwise things were looking good.

    It is dizzying.

    Amde

    • abdulworld

      Hello Amde,
      I can’t really follow what you are saying?
      What are you saying nope to?

      • Amde

        Selam abdulworld,

        I meant I can’t explain what is motivating the Ethiopian side. I just got off the phone with an Ethiopian friend and we have diametrical explanations why.

        It really cannot be explained with just the PFDJ/EPRDF status quo.

        Amde

        • Kim Hanna

          Selam Amde,

          I am relieved you are at a loss too. I am rationalizing everything and that is a sure way to lose a lot of Shillings or something.

          First I thought it had similarity to the news when PMHD announced that he was willing to go to Asmara if need be. It turned out to nothing. I hope there is something this time.

          One thing you mentioned, I have a quarrel with. That is the Assab quid pro quo. I think Assab is made irrelevant with the rail line to Djibouti.

          in any case we need to wait a bit longer. I am waiting also to hear from advocates of Irob people.

          Mr. K.H

    • Berhe Y

      Dear Amde,

      I have a feeling this deal was done between IA and PM in UAE or SA. Or the American diplomat may have something to do with when he visited Eritrea.

      If you recall Amb Cohen article, which was Eritrea position, something like “Ethiopia leave Badime in the morning negotiation starts the afternoon. Y Gmeskel (MoI) said “sky is the limit” to how much the negotiation will go.

      I don’t think IA will refuse the offer, as saay article alluded, that he was preparing the people for change in his independence address.

      Berhe

      • Admassie

        Selam Berhe,

        This is a different note. Some one must have been hearing you, when you compared Ethiopia’s weak visa system to that of Rwanda’s last time. Ethoopia is now ready to issue visa on the internet to any visitor from any country!

        Admassie A.

        • Berhe Y

          Dear Admassie,

          You know when Saleh Gadi interviewed MZ, he told him that he reads awate.com. So I will not be surprised Ethiopian government does read awate.com.

          Having said that, I am sure President Kigame and his deligate may have something to do with it. I think it started with Kenya, with Rwanda followed and I think few others. Ethiopia will naturally be next.

          Paul Kigame and the African leaders are pushing real progressive ideas. For example, they started with airlines and eventually they will move towards free movements of people. At the same time, they are pushing for ways and means to fund their own development projects using their own financial systems.

          Berhe

    • halafi mengedi

      Amde,

      I know we are assuming/theorizing etc, but agreements of the type you indicated above is bad idea in IMO. Not till Eritreans and Ethiopians develop deep conflict management skills, stop self-righteous mixed with indignation attitudes toward issues between the two countries, and stop looking everything through ethnic and nationalistic lens.

      hm

      • Amde

        Selam hm, mr KH,

        I guess we will have to see what else is there, but on the face of it it appears to be a couple of needlessly controversial statements of intent at a time when there are so many balls in the air. The constituencies are not evident, the timing doesn’t seem right and there doesn’t appear to be much in terms of groundwork to prep the public on any meaningful change. That leaves external involvement/pressure.

        We will see said the blind man.

        But for sure Dr. Abiy has been great at controlling the narrative.

        Amde

        • saay7

          Amde:

          Hmmm, you don’t think all the Ethiopian State TV segments talking about the hardship that Ethiopians who live in areas bordering Eritrea (Tigrayans) are going through is setting the stage?

          If you place it in context of all the decisions the new PM has made— releasing prisoners, reconciling with outlawed or marginalized parties, releasing high powered prisoners, lifting SoE well in advance of its deadline, decision to privatize state enterprises including Ethiopian airlines and the industry Meles called license to print money (telecommunication)—do you think removing one concept from the legacy Ethiopian position on EEBC (ie, conditionality) appear untimely and inexplicable, considering the cost now being carried by Tigrayans (10s of thousands of troops and the strain of maintaining war readiness)?

          saay

          • abdulworld

            Hello Saay,
            Good analysis but I think there is something more to it than Tigrayan bearing the burden on border.

            For example, PM made 180 change of direction with regards to Privatization. I believe two weeks ago the main news was Ethiopia was maintaining its “developmental state” business model and there will be no privatization in key industry which are now getting at least partially privatized. Why?
            I wouldn’t be surprised from international community is asking for resolution of Eritrea/Ethiopia due to large refugee or migrant folks going to Europe/Israel/America…
            Those refugee are impacting politics in Europe with shift to right-wing governments which are using refugee/migrant “problem” to win election…

          • saay7

            Abdulworld:

            In closed governments (no independent media, no opposition), it’s hard to say how dire their fiscal situation is. For all we know, PM Abiy may have been given a nightmare scenario (the way Prez Obama was given in 2009) by financial experts that would force him to take decisions that appear radical. To me, Ethiopia’s decision to privatize the very profitable Ethiopian airlines is more surprising than its position on troop redeployment (and inevitable citizens move) from Badme. I expect for him to face pushback from Ethiopians on that issue than any other.

            Incidentally (and this is mostly for you Abi) I think I instinctively understand Hayats reservation on Abiy: she thinks he is incapable of saying no to the US. And the privatization scheme appears to be one of those World Bank/IMF prescriptions that somebody else Hayat admires (say, Meles) would have said not just no but “hell no” to. But as I said, one of the problems of meto be meto govs is you don’t know how dire their fiscal position is.

            saay

          • Admassie

            Selam Saay,

            The partial privatization of public property, I tthink, is not a sudden measure. The idea of Public – Private Partnership (PPP) scheme has been floating for years and the government was working on the frame work to implement the policy.

            There were some public sectors who managed convicing forign investors to partner, but failed for the reason the framework took much time before implemented. The past unrest also could be a factor for the delay.

            But of course, there must be a sever strain in the fiscal. For once the big forign currency expenditure is on fuel and I think we are not paying the market price. That means fuel is being subsidized and it is draining the reserve of dollar and the price difference is additionsl burden to the government.

            Admassie A.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Admassie,

            Like you said, high fuel prices can strain the Foreign currency. If it makes sense, and Ethiopia got to use port of Assab for the norther part it will help reduce the fuel usage.

            I read somewhere the PM wants to visit the NA and be guest at the Ethiopian soccer tournament. He is probably have a message to the Ethiopian Diaspora and he wanted them to invest directly in Ethiopia. I think this is a very good idea, at least it may provide the quick injection the economy needs. For example:

            1) Ethiopia airlines can offer special prices to bring lots of Ethiopian from diaspora and visit this summer. That can inject a lot of cash to the economy.

            2) Ethiopia should also try to copy the “Buy Israel bond” hat the Jewish state uses effectively to raise cash. A lot of money tied with 401K (retirement) that most Ethiopians before retirement can’t access or do not need, may be able to invest for long term (10 years bonds) at a good rate of return to help stabilize the economy. A direct appeal from the PM to the diaspora could probably do the trick. This happened during the Korean economic crisis in the 90s where most Koreans gave all their savings, including their gold to their government to help recover the economy, which worked really well. Sometimes, honest goes a long way, and people will probably react very positively, which I think the current PM will not have much trouble making.

            Berhe

          • Amde

            Selam Berhe,

            I have had a nagging feeling that EPRDF was not really interested in diaspora money unless you were a big shot investor. All formerly Ethiopian investors in bank stock who had changed citizenship were booted out for example. I thought that was inexplicable. I very much think the real diaspora money is not in the rich investor opening a business here and there, but in the possibly hundreds of thousands diaspora sending dollars in 100bucks or so every month to invest in businesses or funds. Or in bonds as you said.

            I think most diaspora are willing to do that even knowing the possibility of getting earning back in Forex might be restricted. “Bond” has a bad vibe to it right now though.

            Amde

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Amde,

            I think everything will help, I understand the previous government may not have been interested for its own reason, like being accountable and need to answer questions.

            It’s mind boggling for all the FDA this FDA that they talk about, but prevent people with dual citizenship from investing in the country. They could have some provision that would protect them, such as percentage of ownership etc., if they are afraid someone could take advantage.

            I really do not understand the whole paranaio with being dual citizenship, if anything it should be a huge asset to help develop the country, with knowledge transfer, direct trade etc.

            As to the bond having bad reputation, I think it can easily change if it was done with good faith and people believe in it.

            But PM Abiy appears to be someone who is not afraid to face anyone and being questioned by anybody as long as it helps the country or the economy, so he can change the narration.

            Right now, my hardcore G7 supporter friend could not get enough of PM, compared to the situation he was in just couple of months ago.

            Berhe

          • Kaddis

            Selam Saay,

            According to EPRDF economic bible – ‘ how Asia works’ by Joe Studwell’ ( they only read this, I think ) – opening up is inevitable. Thailand opened too early before it firmly industrialised and Japan was late in opening up. But all grew in a protected environment according to Studwell. Like you said – we really don’t know how desperate the fiscal situation is. Maybe they are confident they can manage the market forces or the forex crunch is scary.

            logically speaking – selling while in a profitable position is more profitable and in a position to set the terms. China did well on the timing of opening up and retaining the power to manage the market pressure, capital flow, WTO etc…

            I recently read an interesting article ( could not find the title) which argue – China is using Capitalism to reach its socialist / communist goals. So – I don’t suspect EPRDF is giving in for liberal values or institutions while seeing liberalism is being challenged to the core globally.

          • saay7

            Selamat Kaddis:

            That’s funny (“they only read this, I think”) but could it be even worse: that they didn’t read it but have a copy on their shelf to keep up with the Jones? The takeaway from the book (ok, fine, I didn’t read all of it because I am skeptical of the developmental state model) is that there should be government intervention but in a linear way: first tackle agriculture since that employs most people; then focus on manufacturing and then on the financial sector (to pick winners and losers of industries you want to make your export base.)

            Now, in the last 25 years, has the Development State of Ethiopia focused on agriculture first? If so, why is there so much famine? What is the manufacturing sector it has picked for strategic use (export for hard currency)?

            The ‘got-no-time-to-lose’ approach PM Abiy is using lends some credence to the speculation that Ethiopia is the next Brazil: consistent and impressive growth rate followed by huge debt crisis. Anyway, at least he is clearing the in-basket of the PM desk from all the “too hard, deal with it later” that he inherited from his predecessors including Eritrea and privatization.

            saay

          • Amde

            Hi Saay,

            There were clues last year that EPRDF was getting ready to get off the agriculture-first train.

            Fundamentally, there is a problem of productivity growth in al sectors in the economy. But Agriculture was also one of them, and looking at the population pressure and the dearth of manufacturing that feeds off of the agriculture outputs it was clear they needed to do something.

            Much of the agricultural productivity push had become a crony business of forcing peasants to take fertilizers on loan. You can imagine who gets to line their pockets on this particular initiative. I had an interesting/infuriating conversation with a person telling me how he went to visit a relative of his in one of the small towns in Tigray, and she (not a farmer – mind you) provided him a stack of full fertilizer bags for him to sit on. She didn’t need it, but she was forced to take it, and hence she “re-purposed” it. I am sure it was comfortable, but she was making her mandatory payments on it.

            In any case, inability to grow agricultural productivity was such a serious issue, EPRDF big shots have been looking at ways to involve technical experts, and bringing in private capital. That was at least as early as last year while the qerro and Gonder flames were lit.

            The case of manufacturing is similar I think. The mega projects suck domestic capital. This money is then passed on through state enterprises to party/crony businesses. Today was quite an interesting day for the political system and its institutions and for the rough and tumble of politics. Parliament held a hearing on Metec, and ETV made sure to present warts and all. The news was all about how Metec has simply “wasted” 9 Billion birr. “wasted” being explained as making or purchasing goods for which there was simply no market The parliamentary discussion had the new Metec boss explaining that this ETB 9Billion value was a conservative number they were comfortable discussing, but that they did not want to oversensationalize on other unverified numbers.

            Amde

          • saay7

            Amde:

            ወይ ጣጣ. This is why I don’t think they read even the one book that Kaddis mentioned. I went back to it to verify I know what I am talking about but the author, a developmental state advocate, goes to some length to differentiate between Asian states. He says that Japan, China, Korea, Taiwan used the developmental model whereas Singapore, Hong Kong, Indonesia, Malaysia and Thailand were the ones which used the World Bank/IMF model. But because they all developed fast we lump all together whether they were agrarian or fishing societies; democrats or authoritarian.

            I don’t know if EPRDF has an agricultural policy that goes beyond let’s give them fertilizers so they can give us meto-be-meto election results. I mean: who is the party’s ideologue that will hold down the line when the pressure comes from everywhere (creditors, donors, priests) to change? I mean in the 2020 elections (another thing developmental states usually don’t worry about), what will EPRDF tell the people when it’s asking for their vote?

            saay

          • Kaddis

            Hi Saay –

            On the 25 years developmental cycle – I doubt they had 25 years; maybe since 2003 – around 15 years. Before that – they were in a honeymoon with you guys ( joke). It was a post-war fragile economy with contraband, transition from command economy etc.., later the war broke out in 2000.

            If you compare the experiment here in absolute terms with Asia “all other things being equal” – you see a lot of flows. But yes Ethiopia started with agriculture ( replicated the Korean Agricultural Transformation Agency with high end expat management, Agri extension workers ( the same as Dr Tedros health extensions ) basic technology etc… The agricultural produce / volume grew in numbers. However other factors changed more; climate change, population growth etc…I can say the reason Eth economy grew steadily, with resilience to global and regional shocks is because it has an agricultural base. Famine / draught / emergency food aid ( fancy huh) is a huge topic involving WFP ( data shows local purchase is huge ), aid industry/ culture, infrastructure, trading etc…
            Industrialisation is picking up; even though by foreign capital. Industrial zones are filling up ( Kombolcha and Hawassa ) You can imagine how hard it is to industrialise when you have a country as the world factory: China. Still; major difference with ‘how Asia works’ is the export discipline. In the Asian case – the rent seekers who were benefiting through protectionism – at the same time maintained export standard and discipline ( Korea, Taiwan) .

            The same rent seekers here dumped their gains on buildings, more rent speculating land price, buy bank shares with 45% return ( function worse than Eqqub) but avoided strategic manufacturing ( I think same as Malaysia ). The private banks are not even obligated to finance manufacturing. That’s why the gov takes 27% of their lending in bonds to use it through its dev banks. It’s a huge topic; I genuinely believe they have attempted Developmentalism.

            Now – its time to privatise with the government terms. Insh allah it could work.
            Cheers,
            P.s – I am struggling with the book as well for the last year.

          • Kaddis

            Please read industralisation as manufacturing – got carried away ::)

          • saay7

            Kaddis:

            Thanks for your illuminating piece. It’s so educational I will now ask you to explain “rent-seeking” in the Ethiopian context. Here in the US it’s easy to understand as explained in Econ books and seen daily in real life: rent-seeking exists when a business, industry pays (lobbies, bribes) politician to pass laws to restrict competition either by tariffs or other huge barriers to entry. The result is they increase their share of the wealth without increasing overall wealth and passing on the cost to the consumers.

            How exactly does this happen in Ethiopia? Or is “rent-seeking” being used as replacement for speculators?

            Saay

          • Kaddis

            Dear saay,
            Many thanks for the encouragement. Gash Aman and Paulos included.
            It’s exactly the same as in the US except here the rent seekers don’t have to lobby. The party copied from Studdwel’s book on creating the protected environment .

            However, because the government could not coerce those with new money and previlags on what to invest with export dicipline; it encouraged it’s endowments to enter into manufacturing and strategic investment.

            The speculators are the same protected few who use their capital to hoarding (empty land, iron bars etc..) and make profit without adding value. The endowments faired better because of the party lines. Fertiliser for politics comes here as a side effect or side kick. Speculating would have been okay if they made their capital in a competitive way. But they were given chance with the assumption they follow government priorities.
            Korea kept the rent seekers close to the blue palace and made it happen with only five mega companies. Imagine if EFFORT and MIDROC sized companies ( add three or four ) with high delivery rate could have done to the economy. It was doable.
            Abiy have the previlage to experiment liberal approaches; his predecessors didn’t have.

          • saay7

            Selamat Kaddis:

            Again, very educational. So, if the rent-seekers and the government are predominantly if not exclusively EPRDFites, why do they speak in the third-person when addressing them?:)

            The reason I said that they may not even have read this one book is because the reason it worked in some Southeast Asian countries (according to Studdwel) is because the governments said specific goal–creating world class companies which can compete at the international level–and the subsidy and protection was dependent on these companies registering increased marketshare. If they didn’t, the subsidy/protection would be gone and the companies would be forced to be sold to a successful one or, if they don’t cooperate, put out of business. This is why China, Japan, Korea and Taiwan have world-class companies and the ones he says are not real-development states (Hong Kong, Malaysia) do not. For the same reason, the financial sector extended credit and loans ONLY if the protected/subsidized companies could show they were doing it for export reasons and not to compete with the domestic market. It is hard to do this when the government and the protected companies come from the same eco-system and are busy being sentimental about the Revolution.

            Speaking of which, a friend shared a TV program called “Poletikachan” (?) and the host narrates a story about what EPRP said about TPLF when they were feuding: TPLF is always 10 years behind and they will understand what we said 10 years from now:) This is in reference to EPRDF reversing itself on privatization and doing what it was told to do 10 years ago. I think it was Adam Smith who said that there were only 3 categories for income: capital, labor and rent. The real rent-seeking in Ethiopia (and Eritrea to an even greater degree) is using their revolutions as endless source of currency and despotism.

            Great talking to you!

            saay

          • Paulos

            Selam Kaddis,

            Thank you for the well written comment and the substance in it. Educational to say the least. Please keep them coming.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Kaddis & Saay,

            Keep up your conversations. People like me who are none business mind are learning and are picking the basics, as to how government business policy works in transforming the economy of nations. I feel I am sitting in a class.

          • Admassie

            Selam Kaddis,

            You are right that EPRDF’s first break through decision regarding the economy was made in 2003.

            The first appraisal by the cabinet of PMMZ was acknowledging that Ethiopia is in the darkest and deepest poverty hole and the pride in us of our ancient civilization could not and can not wash away the shame we feel in the face of the world. And it stated the need to rise up with a strong sense of ቁጭት.

            The second appraisal of the cabinet was: If we want to exist as a country, we must get out of this abject poverty soon and very fast and we need to bring continues economic growth with a double digit scale.

            The third : The growth to happen we need a huge capital, which we do not have. But, we have land and we have labor. With that we create capital.

            Finally, the appraisal of the cabinet led to the fundamental strategic policy – the Agricultural Development Led Industrialization (ADLI) and it brought the surprising physical and social development we witnessed today.

            I think we are still in the phase of ADLI untill the industrial development picks the momentum.

            Admassie A.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Admassie,

            It is these facts (except Kim), the Ethiopians in this forum have failed to recognize it. The current PM will benefit from the economic policy of his predecessors, if his administration continue the policy that has shown fruits on the ground.

          • Admassie

            Selam Amanuel,

            If we are genuine to reason and sentiment is not playing our judgement, the development happend in Ethiopia is a miracle. History will remember PMMZ and EPRDF a person and an organizatoon who change the course of Ethiopia from a devastated poor country to a rising hopeful one.

            Change can’t be completed in a generatoon. It should be progressive and incremental. Thus, at this juncture of a historical moment in our country, PMAA is also destined to put his own legacy by maintaining the continuity of the development already achived.

          • Amde

            Hi saay,

            I heard the PM this morning.
            He said he rejected the phrase “No War No Peace” He said what it should be called instead is “Deathless War” since the army has to do everything (logistically, readiness, deployment etc…) but pull the trigger. It appears he is committed to it. The remarks were at the tail end of a speech where he extolled the necessity of a strong and critical press in fighting corruption. (He used the phrase “Fifth Estate” but translated it as “አምስተኛው መንግስት”(i.e. Fifth State) it’s the kind of faux pas that gives pause)

            This decision is completely consistent with the Abiy brand of peace and transcending historically tough problems.

            The big question is why now. There is a dark parlor guessing game of when the “coup” by the old guard will take place. The tone and language coming out of Meqele are not reassuring. If this was a decision TPLF was comfortable with, they could have made it years ago, while they were also incontestibly in control. I have yet to see (maybe I missed it) a TPLF honcho publicly come out in support of this latest statement. To me, that would signify there is a consensus at the top of EPRDF on this issue.

            Doing too much is one thing. Doing too much AND stacking up mortal enemies left and right is another.

            Amde

          • Kaddis

            Selam Amde –
            Just rationality thinking – and Admassie kind of mentioned it – EPRDF was carrying a lot of baggage since the 70s be it with Shabia or the Ethiopianists. the Abiy generation has the liberty to throw this out.
            The Queero movement also showed how vulnerable they are. They strongly believe internal weakness expose you to foreign pressure and vice versa. The horn and gulf dynamics according to able analysists (acleddata.com or Riftvalley institute ) have never been this volatile. EPRDF need to neutralise as much enemy as possible. It showed they can deal with Saudi while keeping Qatar close ( including Aljazeera in Addis). Oil price is going up and the trajectory or momentum of the economy is slowing. So there are more reason to change than to keep the status quo – but as you said – its hard to substantiate all this.

          • saay7

            Amde:

            I watched the clip, although I am not sure it is the entirety of it. In addition to rebranding the “no war, no peace”* as “deathless war”, he gave the explanation that a country spends more resources and energy preparing for war than fighting the war. (Reason 1: financial.). Then he said Ethiopia chairs IGAD and has historic role in Africa and the continent deserves peace (Reason 2: Pan Africanism.) If he can add the importance of Ethiopia as a victim of League of Nations has to respect treaties, he will have the grand slam (Reason 3: international law.)

            The TPLF is disoriented and that is the best time to attack before it regains its footing, focused as it is where to hide the loot.

            Finally, apropos nothing, I wonder how many people know that the “no war, no peace” was coined by the late Professor TEKIE Fessehazion and has come to define our situation for 18 years. It’s taking another Dr to rebrand it before he can change it.

            Phew.

            saay

          • Abrehet Yosief

            Selam Saay7,
            From the Eritrean side the name should be “war-less death”.

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Abrehet,
            How about kulu weyo! “Kulu-weyo-situation”.

          • Abrehet Yosief

            Selam Ustaz,
            On April 2, the new PM of Eritrea was sworn in and he gave his speech which included his intentions on Eritrea. On April 7, Eritrea issued an editorial on the occasion of the 16th anniversary of the decision of the Border Commission. The editorial didn’t mention the “offer” from Ethiopia. The editorial gives the time line of the border commission decision, quotes John Bolton and another US diplomat from Wikileaks to show intent of the USA. It concludes by asking for implementation of the border commission decision and the lifting of the sanctions against Eritrea. Perhaps Eritrea has already given its response? Or as you aptly put it “Kulu-weyo”

          • halafi mengedi

            Aberehet,

            I held my nose and scanned the social media account of supporters of IA. Initially they were all over the place, i guess waiting for a talking point from IA through the yemanes. But, lately a trend is emerging. If it tells anything about the position of Eritrean gov, they are set to muddy the water with a combination of their usual rude and undiplomatic statements, asking for dismissal of the ‘nonexistent’ opposition from Ethiopia and lifting of the sanctions before any normalization of the situation at home and the relations with Ethiopia. In short, they never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.

            hm

          • Abrehet Yosief

            Selam halafi menghedi
            Next time tie a bit of ሽንፋእ to help with the stink. It makes me sad to see the complete loss of individual expression. They wait for a signal to celebrate the eternal wisdom of their leader to forsee all this or for a a ቾፕላ before they attack the gesture.

          • Haile S.

            Selam Abrehet,

            ኣብረሀት ሓውተይ ንዒ ግደፍዮ
            ነዚ ሞት ጻዕረ-ሞት ኬን ጡፍ በልዮ

            Pessimist ረስዕዮ ከይስበለኪ
            ጽን ኢልኪ ስምዒ ሓውኺ ዝብለኪ

            ሞይተ እናበልካ ኣይመወት
            ኣለና እናበልካ ይሓይሽ ምዝራእ ህይወት

          • Hope

            Bingo SAAY!
            Holly Molly!!!!
            Where is Dagmawi hiding now-a-days?

            Hope Dr AAA is reading u as much as PIA has been doing so!

            I have NO CLUE how your mind functions to come up with such BRILLIANT and ORIGINAL ideas in nano-seconds!

            My titles for you do HOLD tons of H2O,indeed!
            Wasn’t sure before that I was
            “challenging” a Super Genius”Demagogue”!
            No bias here ,Cousin.
            Let me be more “ diabolical” Hope here as I do at times unintetentionly and when am “crazy.”.
            You should have replaced Yemane Moneky as a Special Presidential Advisor Provided we were to have had a Healthy President,not a Psychopath and a Saddist one!

        • Selam Amde,

          There are things that look amateurish as you insinuated and do not help you to draw a logical conclusion, if there would be any decision of such magnitude and its cost-benefit outcome, as it always happens in any political agreement between two countries. In addition:

          Where does the tplf stand in the whole issue? Afterall, it is tplf that is directly connected with the problem, and one would have been kin to know its position, at least through its outlet.

          How did the people of tigray take the news. It is an issue that affects it directly.

          If the solution was that simple, why did not the tplf solve it so that it may buy some friends from north of the mereb? This puts it in a losing position and it will be demonized much more by eritreans for sleeping on the issue for more than 15 yrs with so many negative consequences for eritrea.

          Is pm Abiy in need of showing that he is a reformist that he is forced to go at it at this breakneck speed, as if he is moving around with a magic wand and whatever he touches is changed immediately?

          Finally, are there external factors at work here that badme and the borders are high up in his agenda for the first 100 days of his administration, an issue he could have solved months latter when the dust of the last crisis has settled?

          Nobody is against peace coming to the region, but the question is, is it really coming when the way we are told it is coming is slightly out of the ordinary and the expected. Let’s hope that it is the real thing and not another political gimmick.

        • Admassie

          Dear Amde,

          Well, we were seeking peace and change to happen.And here it is with all its ጓዝ. Looking the pace of the dynamics, it seems EPRDF is saying “what the heck!” and wants to shrug every burden off its shoulder. Let us hope there is genuine rationale (not being succumbed to any መኮሳተር from external) behind this.

          I for one is happy because, the people of Tigray, particularly, along the border, will start to live like every one else without the cloud of war and its misery over thier head. The same is also true to the Eritrean people on the other side of the border.

          But again, it is unfortunate, that it is the same people who will pay the ” pound of flesh” for the peace to happen.

          Does Ethiopia’s new resolve bring PIA to a peace deal? I don’t know. But a) the ball will not be in our court any more b) there will not be any excuse for PIA and it is in the interest of Eritreans to deal with him so that peace prevails for both of our peoples.

          Admassie A.

          • blink

            Hi Admasse
            Once the ethiopian boots are out from Eritrean land then you can say EPRDF shoulders are away from carrying the blame. Yet we shall see.

          • Paulos

            Selam Admassie,

            The Ethiopian government is exchanging Badme for peace but Isaias is with in his rights to say that Badme is not negotiable for it was awarded to him in a court of law. To put it differently, after the border is demarcated as per the ruling, Isaias can still own hostile foreign policy against Ethiopia.

            The issue then shifts from external to an internal dynamics where Isaias will have to make the case to convince his own people why he wants to have a hostile foreign policy on Ethiopia.

            If he declares another war [Which is very possible] and the Eritrean people fall for it, Ethiopia will have no choice but to make sure that he is done for good. The era of measured response will have ceased to materialize by then.

          • Alex

            Hi Paulos,
            Who in his right mind will think PIA could start another war with Ethiopia after they withdrew from Badme peacefully. If that is the case he could have started another war in the last 16 years to re-claim the occupied land by force. So my point is no Eritrean will fall to another war with Ethiopia again once the border is demarcated based on the algriers agreement. What we need after the demarcation of the border is demobilization of national service, rule of law and opening of the economy for the private sector since the people of the two countries are sick and tired of war.

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Alex,
            I know that many Eritreans whose only issue is Badme will abandon the quest for “JUSTICE” and throw themselves in the laps of Isaias if Ethiopia pulls out of Badme. For the rest of us, unless developments leads to the removal of the PFDJ, nothing is good enough. It will continue as Part xxxxxx (put any number) of the struggle. Because the struggle is more than trivial issues–and I do not trust the judgment of the PFDJ to usher peace in Eritrea. So, I wish luck to those single-issue crowds, the rest will keep on going, regardless, until genuine peace and justice (rule of law) are established in Eritrea. What do you think?

          • Paulos

            Selam Alex,

            If we have learned any thing from the last 20 years or so, Isaias can only survive and breath in crisis where it is tantamount to expect a fish to survive on land.

            It is extremely naive and foolish to expect Isaias to call for demobilization and rule of law once the border is demarcated. The Eritrean people have only two choices: To succumb to Isaias’ tyranny sans rule of law or take matters into their own hands and see Eritrea marching forward without Isaias in the picture. To be more precise, you can not have rule of law as long as Isaias is in power.

          • Alex

            Hi Paulos,

            I agree with you that PIA is not going to allow rule of law willingly. The onus is on all of us to put his feet into the fire to account and implement the constitution ASAP.

          • Admassie

            Selam Paulos,

            What you said is a possible scenario. I understand that PIA is under no obligation to make any negotiation. He still has the “ከደምቲ ወያነ” pretext or even anything is possible.

            But at least the Ethiopian government has freed itself from the shackle of its own decision it has placed for the last sixteen years and the burden of guilt will be off from its shoulder. Now it is PIA’s decision what to make with it.

            Admassie A.

          • Paulos

            Selam Admassie,

            I agree but if people are hoping that all will be good and dandy once the border is demarcated, their hope is misplaced. Simply because, the problem can only be solved if Isaias leaves power. As such, the news is worthy only for Ethiopians where nothing changes for Eritreans as long as Isaias is in power.

          • Admassie

            Selam Paulos,

            I understand your note. Some times a go in this evening, I happened to meet friends and we were discussing the issue at hand. We all are glad of EPRDF’s decision to withdraw from Badme but no one is caring what PIA’s reaction will be for every one of us believes he will not be a good partner for peace.

            Therefore, we are not hopping that things will be turned dramatically in to peace soon.

            Admassie A.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Paulo,

            I agree nothing will be changed for Eritreans as long as IA is in power. But Ethiopia ending the demarcation issue, makes his volunerable to conitinue with his policy of keeping Eritrea in war footing.

            I would say it will be the start of people challenging his policy openly. It’s a step in the right direction.

            Berhe

          • Paulos

            Selam Berhino,

            I certainly I agree that it is a step in the right direction. It is a step for Ethiopia when it is a stuck on for Eritrea. That is my contention if you will. The focus will shift from demarcation as a panacea to whether PFDJ should be removed or reformed. Only fools who don’t see the last 20 years as a lesson will subscribe for reform. The real deal is there is no moving forward as long as Isaias is in power.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Paulos,

            I sense that you have a little bit of reservation on this whole thing. I am reading is, it’s good for Ethiopia but we will be stuck with IA in Eritrea and nothing will be changed. You are correct and I don’t think anyone is disputing it.

            Here is what I think when I said, it’s a step forward for Eritrea.

            1) Eritrea / Ethiopia settle the boarder issue sets the stage for future relationship in positive terms. Suppose the boarder issue is left as it, and all the sudden we have a collapse of government in Eritrea. Then what that lead is to unknown eventualities where the country will be vulnerable it’s priorities without having an organized group to take power.

            2) If the boarder issue is settled and Ethiopia can be trusted to be a positive neighbor and partner and it can help speed up the demise of the regime. That means, the regime will have no excuse to play the “war/ invasion” as an excuse to hold the country hostage for ever. For a lot of Eritreans, the threat of war with Ethiopia is real and based on priorities, most people chose to put up with the regime rather than decide to face him.

            3) I think most of us who oppose the regime have the opportunity to craft our strategy to isolate the regime and counter their narrative “Ethiopia is coming”.

            4) Opposition in exile is a good idea but it will not have much results. It’s hard for such organization to successes because of many factors, logistics being one of them. The best way is, for all opposition organization, civic society, individuals to focus on the demise of the regime and leave to the future (about forming the government), but instead agree in principle to form a transitional / constitutional government based on multi party democracy.

            Berhe

          • Paulos

            Selam Berhino,

            When we see the challenge as a whole and when we try to single out the unknown variables at play, we see only one unknown variable instead. That is, the obstacle was never the border issue or demarcation for that matter. The hung-up has always been Isaias himself.

            Whether we got caught in an event where Isaias is removed when the border as it was, it would not have made any difference. That is precisely the reason I said, it can only be a step to the right direction when Isaias steps down.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Paulino,

            When you spend a lot of time here at AT as you and I do, you forget the reality of an average Eritrea. AT forum as was rightly referred to as AT University, is where ideas are challenged, a place of education and enlightenment, where a lot time is spend in scrutinizing and challenged.

            In the last two years, I started hanging out at a place on weekends where i get to meet a lot of average Eritreans. Because of my “distorted views”, I normally are an observer and listen attentively to the discussion. I don’t know, I feel like 90% of the people that come by seem to buy to the government propaganda. And I know most of those people have nothing to do with PFDJ, and the believe everything will be fine once the boarder is demarcated.

            Cracking this thought is a huge challenge and I am convinced it help change a lot of people opinions about the government.

            I know it’s moronic to actually think people need to be convinced, but I am afraid that’s the fact. And the PFDJ have a considerable influence.

            Berhe

    • Selam Amde,

      The fact that ethiopia is to open parts of state-owned enterprises in sectors such as energy, aviation and telecoms to private investment may be the result of foreign currency shortage, and due to pressure by the neo-liberal globalization policy of less government participation in the economy coming from the west. Let’s hope that it will not be the type of privatization that created the russian oligarchs, who became billionaires overnight.

      I do not think that there was any problem with eritreans investing in ethiopia upto now. Although i am not completely sure, but i believe that some are already doing so, which of course is opposed by the regime in asmara, because this will put at a disadvantage its own weak economy.

      Things are happening at an overwhelming pace that it is not a bad idea to consult a psychic, and i think Abi agrees. Or, he may send me to enjoy his latest recipe with a lot of alcohol and the rest, to help me forget all about it.

      • blink

        Dear Horizon
        Ethiopian federal government is broke too broke that it can not stand the pressure paying back the loan plus interest. A new PM arrived by popular demand of the public but find himself in empty casa of the state.

        The privatisation of the state companies is a vital part of the total package of changing Ethiopian economic structures to many problems inside. The weyane companies were running with out control and they need a competition from equally robust outside investors. A 100 million people state and couldn’t access the loan market up to a billion dollar is simply un acceptable way of saying the economy growth was 10% for 20 years .

      • Amde

        Selam Horizon,

        I can’t see how the ForEx crunch is solved by selling off state assets.

        Now, if you want to buy off Effort etc..(“domestic investors”) to come along without giving you problems, this might be one way to do it. It is plausible this privatization decision could be used to get TPLF support to get traction on the Badme front.

        This is one of those occasions where an EPRDF split would be good for the country. At least there would be debate.

        Amde

        • Mez

          Dear Amde,

          How are you going to rectify the ForEx crunch otherwise?

          Thanks

          • Selam Mez,

            Without being an economist, what i understand is that as a short term solution for the forex crunch, countries like ethiopia ask for hard currency repatriation by the business community, as the pm did (turkey in the middle of an economic crisis is also doing the same thing), decrease import – especially non-vital items, fight corruption and money laundering, and if ethiopia is still creditworthy she could go to the IMF or other more predator private creditors. The hardest choice at last must be privatization of the national assets, which ethiopia is doing right now.

          • Mez

            Good Day Horizon,

            There is most likely a need for policy adjustment.

            1) All the major projects in Ethiopia are not starting in time. They all show latency and lag of two to three years. For example, Gibe III, GERD. The compounding effect of such a status is loss of business opportunities. On the otherhand the time for paying matured interest rates will force decission makers to be creative and wise in their decision making, and policy adjustment.
            2) probably it is better to understand Foreign Direct Investment (FDI) is very similar in nature with proper “Inland Capital Investment”, IFI. The government has to do much more coherent policy correction to attract this money back. I am talking about the legal business based capital flows.
            3) to attract a sustained momentum of capital flow, the credit score of the country have to be in a reasonable state. Otherwise everything economic opportunity for Addis Ababa will collapse.
            4) keeping the countries creditworthiness is more important than sporadic success stories of government companies.

            Thanks

    • halafi mengedi

      Amde

      Interesting side observation I made following the the announcement made by PMAAA regarding implementation of the Algiers agreement. Clearly, a lot of people on Ethiopian side are confused/disappointed/in-denial/reluctant etc. People are assuming that the announcement means Ethiopia is withdrawing from Badme and other areas (although it explicitly doesn’t say so), but the interesting thing is that, the clamor for Aseb has increased dramatically. The support base, the desperation and the resolve (even to go to war) is expanding and palpable. I don’t think Eritreans are reading it and ready for it.

      hm

      • Amde

        Selam hm,

        Resistance (especially from Tigrayans and the military) is logical and highly predictable. That is why it is still inexplicable to me why Abiy (sorry EPRDF Executive committee) made the announcement. It is TPLF’s incoherent double dealing coming home to roost. Eritreans have their own version of the war, but Tigrayans are convinced Meles sabotaged an imminent military victory, then actively worked to wreck whatever was militarily gained through the legal arena. Many Tigrayans had stayed 20 years biting their tongue, but with TPLF’s days waning, expect this to get worse before it gets better. I feel bad for the ordinary people impacted by it.

        The Assab thing.. well.. just understand this is one of those scars that will be there a while. How much is Eritrea supposed to pay as compensation as an aggressor?

        In any case, I don’t think this is about a rapprochement with a PFDJ run Eritrea. It is impossible to imagine a PM who received a political opponent on death row in his office will have much in common with the thuggery of Isayyas. I feel like Isayyas or PFDJ are quite incidental, and wouldn’t be surprised if a cold peace continues even if Ethiopia does withdraw to EEBC lines. At this point, I assume Isayyas needs Badme as an issue more than Ethiopia does, so I think my መቶሺ ሳቶሺ bet with Saay is still quite safe. But PM Abiy has been relentless in wildly exceeding my expectation so far, so I am assuming there are good reasons for what he is saying/doing.

        Amde

        • Nitricc

          Hi Amde, I will wait for my full credit to PMAA and to say i was wrong but do you remember your response to me when i wrote the following to KIM? please forgive me for acting as Yosef G/Hiwot by quoting myself. I said two months ago to kim this….
          ” Hi Kim; Aby’s immediate tasks;
          1) Unite the country under nationality and eliminate ethnic division.
          Amend the constitution and eliminate article 39. Issue new ID card that eliminates once ethnicity.
          2) Clean the house and bring the corrupted officials to the court of law.
          3) Elect new cabinets, end the SOE. Dialogue with all oppositions and open up free political movement. And most importantly solve the problem with Eritrea, doing this Aby will be a hero for the people of Tigray.”
          He has done everything in amazing 60 days, but two things, that is article 39 and jailing the thieves. so i am very close to eat my own words and to say i was wrong and i am sorry to PMAA.

          • Amde

            Hi Nitricc,

            I think I remember it.

            You asked me what I wanted to see in the first 100 days, and when I responded to you I had just read a “concluding report from the EPRDF Council”, which had the tenor, lexicon, and arguments of the same old EPRDF. So I feel into a bout of depression.

            It’s been amazing and I am so happy I was so wrong in how cynical I felt when I responded to you.

            Solving the problem with Eritrea would be easy, but it seems someone just wants the EEBC victory gloat. Literally not thinking win-win. I cud tell it was a political minefield and did not see why Abiy needed to tie himself with it so soon, so I assume (I still do) that he will not do much more than what he has done. But we will see.

            Amde

        • saay7

          Amde:

          There is so much going on in Ethiopia, I saw a tweet today which read አሁንማ ሻወር እራሱ ስገባ ሰበር ዜና አንዳያመልጠኝ ስልኬን እና ዣንጥላ ይዤ ነው ምገባው. Army Chief of Staff Samora Yenus? Gone. Intel boss Getachew Asefa? Gone. And you are holding to your bet which says Ethiopia will still be in Badme in May 2019? Let’s double down on it: I say it will be out before the end of the year. Even this deadline will look ridiculously too long given the speed Abiy is comfortable with.

          On the demonstration in Tigray…. why Raya-Azebo? Why not in Shire or Mekele or Adi Grat or Zalanbessa? Hmmm? Hmmm? Me thinks it is chorographed.

          saay

          • Amde

            Hi Saay,

            Hahahaha..

            Do I have to be the one to cool you down from Abiy fever?

            Man the news has been unreal. The humor outstanding. We are all just speechless. Glued to twitter, facebook, TigraiOnline, etc etc…

            Some other twitter account called the events of today “the Ginbot 30 Massacre”

            So a while ago I asked you if you had ever been to Addis. You told me/us that as a point of principle, you would not visit while the border issue s not sorted out. (I think the wording you used was a bit more – shall we say – formal.. hahaha…)

            So, would you now be open to be the one to do a win-win with Abiy? Strike while the iron is hot? ye buna sibatu tikusatu etc …? I feel the two of you can get this fixed in half an hour. even if I do lose my beloved satoshis, in this case I would be more than happy to lose. I would propose you as the Awate.com community ambassador to help resolve this border issue.

            The Raya Azebo issue – well, Maichew was the last (or among the last towns) to fall to TPLF. I expect that area to be among the first within Tigray where TPLF will lose bad. Historically that was the place of the first Weyane, which was quashed by Adwans. Weyane two is an Adwan creation., but heavily resented by the Rayans of today, I wouldn’t be surprised if the popular feeling about “National Interest” is similar to what you would find in Addis or Gonder – in other words, more abstract while not being directly affected. (Don’t be surprised if Rayans choose to get out of Tigray and form their own state or join the Amara region by the way) So a genuine “protest vote” about more than EEBC. That is my take anyway.

            The other areas – I say wait a few days – I think they are more shell shocked. The Tigrai-Tigrigni inclined see this as a non-issue (one of them stated whether Badme goes or stays is like putting money in your left or right pocket. I think Tigrayan politics will start opening up now and we will see how it goes.

            I am just mad that I am not in Ethiopia to be a part of history. And it is not even mid-year yet.

            Amde

          • saay7

            Hey Amde:

            I have a serious question: do the Raya people get along with the Azebo people? Amde once reversed it and gave top billing to Azebo and called it Azebo-Raya.

            And on my abilities you are pulling an Emma and giving me skills I do not have Amde. It turns out the things people go craziest over—land—I have the least bit of interest in. You can’t send a Vulcan to negotiate the script to a soap opera.

            So on Abiy: here’s the difference I think. You guys were fans based on potential, I am becoming one based on results. If he was stock traded, you guys would be a billionaires (satoshiaries) because you bought early based on instinct. I had to cross off everything from my checklist and do my due diligence. Everyone is waiting for the blowback so I guess that’s the next bet?

            saay

          • Amde

            Saay,

            I think you have a gem with this Vulcan and soap opera idea. Imagine T’vok stuck on earth among humans. So, exile in SoCal among the vainest and most irrational of humans would be one of the harshest punishments meted out per Vulcan Jurisprudence.

            Hush your mouth on this Azebo-Raya thing. What – you want to start a skirmish? I think they get along just fine when it is an outsider sob who has to face their wrath, but then what is the point of having a brother if you can’t have enduring feuds with him to liven up the day. Travelling to Addis on a semi-regular basis, it is interesting to hear the newest pulses that grace weddings and clubs. About 5 years ago I would say Agew beat was ascendant. The last couple of years, the Raya beat has been making serious headway.

            I feel I am a Satoshionaire on Abiy twice over haha – wish I could get so lucky with real money. He is going for broke – it s just stunning. The more I see him, the more I tend to believe the story he told about preparing for the position since he was seven. He looks impossibly self-assured for what on the outside looks like nothing but a bed of thrones. He might be psycho-babbling to the rest of us, but he seems to be doing well with the sharp-elbowing and eye-poking of the internal power struggles.

            I talked to someone yesterday who says they ran into the “prophet” lady who prophesied his ascendancy to the PM”s chair many years ago. (I am sure you have seen the video). The newest request they have for her is, “Can you prophesy/anoint another person to be PM because we want to make Abiy King instead ?” There is a Ginbot 7 Opposition fellow online who has started to refer to him as Janhoy. There is jest in it of course, but probably most Ethiopians (seeing as to how we are a religious lot who believe in divine destiny) would say he meets the definition of “God Anointed” (i.e. Syume Egziabher). It will be a bad day when he inevitably does something that changes the euphoria into a very cold shower. For now we are still enjoying a great honeymoon.

            Amde

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam saay,

            You asked Amde if he would amend the bet to double down on it.
            I took notice because, I as unpaid side kick to Amde, inadvertently stuck my neck out too long. (I didn’t have Satoshis to speak of.)

            Even though, I am still in shock and dizzy from the new experience I want to be excused out. Reason poverty and ignorance.

            Mr. K.H

          • saay7

            KH:

            Have you considered rent-seeking? Kaddis says that’s where the action is, not in Cleveland 🙂

            7-7-7 is looking like 7-7-4 Abi. Well. As Jack said in a forgettable movie I forgot, “2 out of 3 ain’t bad!” Although percentage wise, it is.

            saay

          • Abi

            Hi Saay
            Disappointing results. I was expecting more games. Hockey just finished (4-1) Good thing World Cup is fast approaching. Another great news is the news from Ethiopia are coming fast.
            Dying to read from
            Vet Mahmoud
            Fanti
            T Kifle
            AG

            Do you still have the Great LT’s football comment? Please share . Thanks

          • saay7

            Abi:

            Of course.

            “Stop your animal tests football and don’t clash with me.” – LT

            saay

          • Abi

            Thanks Saay
            I don’t know which one is funnier
            This one or the Arkebe comment? Hopefully one weekend you’ll repost all his comments on jebena page. People should enjoy LT the Great.

          • saay7

            Abi:

            Agreed! For now, he is a teaser from the Great Lyricist L.T. summarizing Ethiopian history, which I have compiled into a digest (obviously):

            You’re 3000 yrs old.An only child
            Ke Asmera Binesu
            Bichegerw Talian
            Ale Forca forsa”
            Atsi Menelik from Debrebrhan-Angilela
            “Ye Menelik Tiyt ye Mekele Eyalech
            Ye Menelik Enat 1 welda Mekenech”
            Aba Tena Iyasu
            Father and the son
            Alga wedeKu.
            Haileslassie from Harer-Ejersa Gore
            Mekele Bigeba
            Mekele Gebachu.
            Awassa bigeba
            Gural betachu..

            From Adam-Eva to Noah from Noah to “Dinknesh”…..Scandalous

            Lyrics and melody by L.T.

            Amen.

            saay

          • Abi

            Hi Saay
            “ሰው ጥሩ፣ ሰው ጥሩ፣ ሰው ጥሩ አንድ ሰው
            ከሚመጣው ሁሉ ከሚመላለሰው”
            That is how you call Fanti. You sing for him.

          • saay7

            Abi:

            Is ሰው ጥሩ a form of gold and wax with ጥሩ as keyword or do I have to ask Kokhob selam instead.

            Fanti is hiking in the Himalayas. He committed half a sin and that’s how he makes penance.

            saay

          • Eyob Medhane

            Sal,

            Here is my favorite.
            እንዴ የዚህ ሰውዬ ምርቃና ግን መች ነው የሚበርደው?

            Amde,
            From all of today’s news that dropped my jaws was Alemshet Degife’s restoration of his military honor, rank and pension. That was a very bold move

          • Amde

            Hi Eyob,

            Yes – that was amazing. Do you read more into it about ANDM and readjustments in the senior ranks? As a signal, it was amazing, but I imagine there are many senior officers in a similar boat.

            I had really liked how OPDO bought President Negasso a car. Irrespective of what I thought about Dr. Negasso, I thought the way they treated a former president of the republic, someone who honorably served, was shabby and obscene. They should go ahead and provide him with what he deserves no less than the other former presidents.

            So, I thought the Alemshet Degife and Asamminew Tsige actions were indeed astounding but in retrospect not out of the realm of decency we have seen BTW, is Asaminew Tsige the brother of Andargachew Tsige or is it coincidence?

            Amde

        • Selam Amde,

          Still many pieces missing in the “PM Abiy puzzle”. May i call it “ዱብ ዕዳ”. Did he have all these on his mind three months ago before he even knew that he could be the pm of ethiopia? Another three months from now on, he may have finished all his job, and he might as well go on a vacation to asmara.

          In my mind i have been searching for these pieces in the puzzle.
          – Where is the tplf and why does it continues to keep a deafening silence?
          – I was expecting the people of tigray, especially the local population, demonstrating either in support of or condemning the decision. They too are silent.
          – What would be the fate of the local residents, who are going to feel the major impact – there property, citizenship, etc?
          – Is the aim much more about dismantling the tplf system and a way of isolating it? I do not think that ethiopia will gain anything from this.
          – Why hasn’t the pfdj said nothing upto now, either we have heard the story so many times and we ignore it, or jump on the bandwagon and rejoice as its supporters are doing.
          – What does reciprocate and come in good faith mean? Is it possible that the “ሰምና ዎርቅ” is indeed here.
          – What does Dr, Abiy expect to get from the eritrean side that he has committed himself in this ambiguous way?
          – usa, eu and rich arab states – have they come with their billions to lure pm Abiy to accept the decision, especially now when he faces a forex crunch. What do they have to gain from this?
          – Is he expecting a major military situation with forces enemy to ethiopia that he wants to close this chapter as soon as possible? Can he depend on dia/pfdj? I doubt. Or, is this purely an economic and humanitarian issue for him?
          – Finally, is it a political stunt to corner and demonize the pfdj in the eyes of its people and the world community, because most probably it is going to say “NO”. The pfdj knows very well that nothing is going to happen without some sort of negotiation, which it hates vehemently, because it is afraid of the catch.
          – Finally, who do we have as a leader, a pragmatist or a naive one? Well, you know that i too have a bet on him. I do not want to lose my, what did you call it, satoshi?

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Horizon,

            Nice..early to say something,,Wait and see the time will clear the stand,,He is managing “Soft Power” and this may or mayn’t happen let us check very soon things will be cleared..

            KS,,

          • Amde

            Hi Horizon,

            It is not fair – you can’t say “finally” twice haha.

            All I can say with Abiy is we are in new territory. The Badme thing to me indicates there are other players/issues at stake that we are not aware of. I don’t know how true it is, but I heard Isayyas flew to Saudi Arabia immediately AFTER Abiy returned back to Addis. So maybe there is something there.

            My guess is he undertands there is humanitarian need for Eritreans, but it doesn’t make sense for him to inflame Tigray and hand his opponents an issue so early in his term. That is why I still think my satoshis are safe and Sayy’s are not, but as Saay indicated events are moving so fast, who knows if I can make it to April 30, 2019. And if there are outside players – then look out.

            TPLF issued a statement today I think. I am paraphrasing, and probably making an error, but the gist of it was “we agree with the total Algiers package. It would need dialog to execute and if there is dialog we are ready to talk.” Algiers also had claims commission and also decided on responsibility for the war. I am not sure if there were punitive and compensatory judgements against Eritrea on the responsibility question – usually that is what happens when one side is found responsible. There are definitely net Eritrean liability of the claims side. Isayyas has been clever in making this only about land and lucky for him, many Eritreans buy this bs. So I think TPLF (and probabaly EPRDF as well) are betting that PFDJ will stay stuck on the and side and ignore the other components and that will give them an out.

            Amde

  • Abrehet Yosief

    Selam Abdulworld,
    If Ethiopia’s objective is to have a very weak Eritrea, I think they have achieved it. I think the current move is to promote economic activity in the north of Ethiopia and to demilitarize the border area. Ethiopia will use the ports if Eritrea allows it. I don’t think Ethiopia will be the only beneficiary if that was to happen. I agree with you, we only have seen the communication about the decision to implement the border commission and the Algiers agreement with immediacy. We will see how things develop.

    • abdulworld

      Hello Yosief,
      First eritrea is weak but that largely due its own government.. but it not too point Ethiopia getting a receptive eritrean government and nearly free port..

      so you are saying Ethiopia objective to have economic activity in north and demilitarize the border?
      Why now? They don’t have wait 15+ years for that..

      • Berhe Y

        Dear aw,

        There is new government in Ethiopia which is breaking grounds in addressing very touchy political problems.

        I see nothing different of the approach in resolving the boarder issue with Eritrea.

        At the same time, I have seen lots and lots of videos where the people of Tigray were demanding peace with Eritrea.

        In other words, may it’s time has come.

        Berhe

        • abdulworld

          Hello Berhe,
          So you have seen a lot of videos with Tigrayan asking for peace with eritrea.
          That could play a factor. I believe that sentiment has always been there with regards to Eritrea.
          I wish those Tigrayan could plead with Ethiopian government to help kidnap Issias afwerki and take him back to his hometown in Tigray…

  • Abrehet Yosief

    Hi Amde,
    It is hard to imagine in practical terms how anything can be done without some kind of dialogue. However, since the overwhelmingly repeated mantra has been withdraw from Badme then we talk practicalities, it would be interesting if Ethiopian forces would first help evacuate the civilians who may wish to depart and then pull back. Perhaps have a few diplomats there to observe. Simply as a sign of good will and to make this commitment real.
    The only parallel I can draw is when Qatar observers withdrew from Djibouti border and there was accusation that Eritrean forces had moved into the area, I think it was Africa Union that confirmed that the areas were not occupied by Eritrea.
    Honestly I don’t know how this can progress without some kind of a third party observer. Even overflights are not allowed across the border. We will see what tomorrow brings.

    • abdulworld

      Hello Yosief
      These agreements come with implementation which contains procedures and process.
      It is not vague process or some neighborhood disagreement. If there are any problems most likely it will come from Ethiopia. Just pick up your army and leave the land if you genuinely want to implement it.
      It makes no sense for Eritrea to have dialogue until the ruling is implemented- what is dialogue going to be about?
      Eritrea is following all international norm in this case.

      • Abrehet Yosief

        Selam Abdulworld,
        The proceedures set out in the border commission required a field office to be set up and the last mandate of the pracekeeping mission required it to provide logistical support. Neither of them currently exist.

        • Berhe Y

          Dear Abrehet,

          That can easily reinstated if both governments agree to proceed.

          I think Ethiopia having a seat st the SC (I am assuming still does), could easily bring the agenda to the table,

          It will be up to the Eritrean government reaction what will happen next.

          But I don’t think the Ethiopian government is doing this unilaterally (specially if IA refused to talk to him as was reported in SA).

          Berhe

  • cool

    hi
    Awate always feels obliged to advocate for the rights of moslems all over the world.
    what has the Topic “Ethiopia Reiterates Its Acceptance of The Boundary Ruling”to do with those moslems jailed in connection with the Awalia school movement in 2012.
    why is the word” reitrerat” chosen in the topic?awate pls stop missinforming people , Ethiopia did not accept the boundry commisions decision fully ,therefore it cannot reiterate its acceptance, that is why the Deadlock for 17years
    cool

  • blink

    Dear all
    First the article name is completely wrong misleading to any person who doesn’t know the 5 points of Ethiopian government preconditions . On this breaking news Ethiopia did not reiterate its decision on the border ruling, It accepted with out any ifs and ands . The fact that this article explains more about Ethiopian Muslims arrested from school says it more about GN than the border issue which is a breaking news in major news .Why are they( the Muslims in Addis ) not released is simply a side issue to the heading of this article but it sits as the main part of the GN news , extremely too late to ask about the Muslims too .

    Does everything has to be attach to Muslims issues in order for GN to put this breaking news that has nothing to do with the arrest of these people ? I mean these people were arrested long time ago before the new Sudanese security come to power , these people arrest was done by weyane and I guess they will be released as the day goes in to Abyi desk.

    Now why is the news about the arrested once instead of about the border ? It seems someone is getting mad about the news due to different reasons. Ahm by the way I hope these guys get released and GN remember their day to put their names on the news .

    If the border issues got solved the weyane grown babies of the opposition leadership will die due to high cholesterol and kidney problems. Where will keronelos and the mini Afar state dreamers run ?

    • Saleh Johar

      Hi Blink,
      If you only stop looking at things the way you do, maybe your comments would be beneficial. Not everything should be looked at with the “weyane” and “PFDJ” feud prism that defines your obsession. Everything you write is so narrow I wonder why you don’t feel the claustrophobic space you put yourself in.

      • blink

        Dear SG
        I have said enough sir . There is nothing left for me to say . I have expressed my disappointment about the article and I don’t expect everyone to see this article as I do. My narrow understanding was developed long time ago even before you jump the Habesha horse and I guess you know that . I always find myself in a very narrow spot just for looking at a very big picture of our history lesson not because of Weyane and PFDJ feud which has been the work of bloody Habesha lies . Excuse my language sir damt I hate that word even to write it down creates a bad feeling on my fingers.

  • Abrehet Yosief

    Selam Gedab News,
    Interesting news. I would assume Ethiopia would have to do more as confidence building measure. The next step is if they were to withdraw from Badme and then initiate conversation. That would be a completely new approach. I guess one would have to watch if there is any military movement in Badme. And I guess the civilians there would have to leave the town to be in a safe place until it gets all sorted out. Once that is done, perhaps there would be the involvement of Africa Union to observe peaceful demarcation and transfer of land. Interesting times. Unless of course, his highness completely ignores the new developments or states “ane ezi shenkolel eye zblo”

  • Kokhob Selam

    Dear all,

    Let say something… Here this needs deep conversation.Can we take stand on the matter..
    Let us discuss it and let us take common stand.

    KS,,

  • Paulos

    I read the end of the Isaias regime instead. Thank you GN for the greatest news in 20 years.

  • Beyan

    Dear AT,

    Can you please ask everyone interested in discussing this important breaking news about the border be discussed under the new thread instead of in Yohannes Zerai’s article, which is a wonderful tribute to Eritrean youths that deserves a space for discussion in its own right.

    Just a thought.
    Beyan

    • Saleh Johar

      Hi Beyan,
      We just wish those who know better will do that on their own. To the usual suspects, it has become a very bad habit they do not want to change. They know that but they do it for reasons I do not understand.

    • Corrector

      Beyan,
      why are you not taking AT to task? first of all they primarily focused on the release of the Ethiopian opposition, never mind the title/topic. They treated the border issue as secondary news and in a “meanwhile” manner. Secondly, they are presenting this big news as a “reiteration” when in fact it is more than that – the implementation part is new and not reiteration.

      • Saleh Johar

        Hello Corrector,
        I am here to be taken to task, voluntarily 🙂
        1. Are you saying accepting the boundary ruling is new? Is it not a reiteration of an old position?

        If you think otherwise, I can engage you but first, please explain why it is not a reiteration of an old position.

        2. The news about freedom is timely, important and follows on the expectation based on the release of all prisoners.

        If every Ethiopian is being released, one would expect those who are not even remembered by the so-many who are expressing their jubilation about the release, would serve as a reminder. Don’t you think so?

        3. Since I assume you agree that different people consider different news as big or secondary, would you expect everybody to agree with you on what is big or what is not?

        I don’t think Gedab is taking the boundary issue as a minor development (still it is a reiteration depending on what follows) but I do not think the issue of the remaining prisoners should be considered less important either. Remember, the first to start the wave of protests that finally brought the changes we are witnessing are still in prison–and they are Ethiopians like the rest of the released prisoners. I wish the prime minister all the success in finishing the brilliant job he has embarked on. I am fully supportive of his leadership and I admire his fast leaps in such a short time. As an Eritrean, I am very jelous and Ethiopians should rejoice more than anyone else–but the leash on leadership should stay tight–just a thought.

        I hope you have taken me on a task and I hope I finished the task 🙂

      • Beyan

        Selam Corrector,
        Is it beyond the realms of possibilities that I haven’t yet read the news item. My concern was that Yohannes Zerai’s piece gets its share of discussion and shouldn’t be buried by this extremely hot, and rightly controversial, and politically charged topic.

    • abdulworld

      Hello Beyan,
      I full agree with this view.
      Yohannes Zeras article shouldn’t have border noise comments it is just bad form.
      I believe it is an Eritrean value to acknowledge the hard work and effort others.
      But I don’t think it is tribute to Eritrean youths- It is acknowledgement of Civil Eritrea Generation and its moving to driver seat.

      • Beyan

        Hey abdulworld,

        Haste makes waste as the saying goes. People just can’t wait a moment or two before they put their comments. Since, as you aptly put it, we are talking about future generation, imagine, it is 2050, a young scholar is doing research about what Eritreans in diaspora were discussing when their nation was being robbed blind by a tyrant. The researcher comes across Yohannes Zerai’s article, slum dunk, he or she would think. But, the threaded discussion to the researcher’s dismay will have no relevance with the article at hand. I can only see the researcher’s bafflement…

        At any rate, it is not only fair to the writer that we give him his dues to discuss his article for those of us who are interested in the subject matter, but also show some deference to the author as it ought to be “an Eritrean value to acknowledge the hard work and effort others” have put in to produce critically important topic as the one that Yohannes has just shared with his readers.

        Beyan

  • Kaddis

    Hi all,
    What a pleasant news. What a dramatic Ginbot. Making peace with Eritrea this month would erase all the dreadful memories of the past Ginbots.
    Ethiopians on social media are so excited; so positively.
    It looks like any deal will do with Ethiopians as long as it brings peace. I say : You would have done that long ago if you new Gash Saleh, Saay, the amazing Awate school fams.
    So excited
    Cheers from Addis

    • Saleh Johar

      Hi Kaddis,
      Many Eritreans are positive about it. PM Abiy has quite a few statesmanly and brilliant decisions. But one doubt is still lurking: would the Ethiopian troops pull away from the border immediately without any precondition? If they are, then let’s delay the celebrations until that happens. But it is really exciting developments.

      • Kelson

        I agree with you. Lets us for once be positive thinkers Eritreans and Ethiopians, if we are wishing the best for our countries for generations to come. But if we are beating the same drum it means that we still have long way to go to understand where the world is now-a-days. Even if we fail we have to learn how to get up and dust ourselves and continue the journey. We have to get rid of suspecting each other for a hidden agenda. See the big picture. weather we like it or not we are blood related but it is up to us if we want to strength that or let it go. Both can work as long as we learn to accept each other in a positive way. our benefit will be mutual no one be a looser in peace, but in war all are looser.