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Ethiopia & Eritrea: A Faustian “Peace” Bargain with the Devil?

The question of economic opportunities being given to our neighbors before Eritreans, calls for a separate analysis. The question of spiritual proselytizing in public being given to our neighbors in Amharic before Eritreans call for a separate analysis. The question of refugees right to return being left untouched so far when Eritreans are languishing at the doorsteps of our neighboring countries, namely Sudan, calls for a separate analysis. Whilst keeping the fluid nature of Ethiopian-Eritrean peace negotiations in mind, trying to capture the big picture of where things might be headed is a worthy endeavor. Not to mention the question of geopolitics, which is not only critical but has several components that call for a separate analysis. In this opinion piece, only one component of the latter will be addressed, namely notions of Pan Africanism.

Pan Africanist in the Making

Can Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed be the Pan Africanist leader who can deliver peace in the region? He has all the ingredients necessary to be that and more. He is highly intelligent, poetic in his oratory. And he is not shooting in the air or waving his swords. The days of politics of the warrior (zeraf and ere- geday)* are long over. The three thousand years of Ethiopia’s warrior history is finally in its waning phase with the ascendance of Abiy Ahmed to the highest cabinet post.

The days of Fiyyel WeTeTe** is so 1978, it has no place in 2018, which appears to be the unambiguous PM Abiy Ahmed’s message as he embodies notions of peace and love in his political philosophy. Three things are readily available for PM Abiy to base his moral imperative to lead the Pan Africanism wagon: (1). The Horn of Africa has had written languages as far back as any others in the world; (2). The earliest human existence can be traced back to the millions of years as Lucy (Dinkinesh) is its supportive evidence; (3). The Horn of African region is one of the many areas where agriculture was independently developed some 10,000 years ago. Such irrefutable knowledge is based on historical facts. We may be at the precipice of going beyond the three-thousand-year history of war. There is more of the historical narrative of civilization and development that can be narrativized if we only focus on our own history rather than on European and the West telling us what our history is. This is where Pan Africanism can kick in giving us the needed impetus to thrive as a people of the Horn.

The Politics of the Uncultured

The politics of the uncultured who would break glasses full of blood as a symbol when delivering a public speech to show that they are the ultimate brutes is long over. Love and poetic languages are much more potent and effective potions as was evident in recent days. The question that remains unanswered and that remains to be seen is whether Eritrea’s dungeon maker can be rehabilitated and build social and political institutions instead?

Can Eritrea’s Dungeon Maker Become A Peace Partner?

Can the same be said about Eritrea’s Dungeon-Builder, in which innocent Eritreans have been holed underground by the very man that PM Abiy Ahmed is making that Faustian bargain of peace with? Now that the euphoria has subsided; that the man at the helm in Eritrea is back in his haunted castle and where the slaughterhouse will welcome him back; where he will hear those whistles of tormenting ringing in his mind’s eye; where the bells of torture will chime in his ears when Asmara’s Cathedral strikes its midnight toll; where he alone makes any decisions he wishes moving forward; it remains to be seen what he does domestically. Would he free the unjustly imprisoned? Would he institute some modicum of governance with some sort of constitution by which the country and its people would abide by? Would he allow free movement of citizens? Would he allow the convening of more than three people in one gathering? This is an awesome power to readily dispose of.

Can anyone see a comedic irony in the surreal peace process in which we were made to witness? With the great fanfare at our disposal as we watched we could chronicle and chime-in our thoughts in real time in the myriad of social media venues of our choosing. Can there be peace between two nations with a population on one side being sidelined? Can Ethiopianism and Eritreanism remain as independent entities? The former is at a huge advantage to keep its identity intact because its people are free to voice their views. As for the latter, only the man at the helm says what Eritreanism is and by golly, it shall be so, at least in the duration of this peace process. Can this prove to be an error of countless “isms” that we’ve been hearing about of late? So many questions and no discernible answers that can be ascertained at this time but are left at the disposal of time to inform us and waiting eagerly and anxiously is the only option.

The Politics of Love

In June and July of 2018 Ethiopians and Eritreans have seen what it is like to arrive at the politics of love – to the poetics of politics in Ethiopia, where, for the first time, the nation of 100 million is ruled by someone who is cultured, who is highly educated; one whose oratory skills match that of Obama, save the teleprompter for the latter and the plagiarism insinuations of the former for the former colonizers and their progenies to shed crocodile tears for. PM Abiy can voluntarily strip off his Ph.D. title and would still be that cultured individual who has the gravitas and the enthusiasm to have massive followers as he does now. Our region has been transformed seemingly overnight. The Politics Turn from its masculinity to the politics of gender neutrality is taking shape in real time. The barbaric language that goes with war and hate is now replaced with the language of love and plenty of hugs.

Would what we have seen over our computer screen become a veritable explosion of love, of brotherhood, of sisterhood, of fraternity, and of difference between and among Eritreans the likely scenario? Could the same be said of our uncultured brute? Is what we have seen paranormal? You bet it is. But, does it make it any less palpable for peace to reign in the region? Not really. It is more than palatable if PM Abiy begins to see beyond the man at the helm of power in Eritrea. Making a bargain with the devil can be used as a stepping stone toward permanent peace with Eritrea, but not as the be-all and end-all.

The Bullet Train of Peace and Love

Attempting to make sense when a neck breaking bullet train of peace is on the move is an exercise in futility. But, no matter what, at this junction of Eritrea’s history, Pan Africanism and/or peace between Ethiopia and Eritrea can only have a lasting effect if and only if Eritreanism is kept intact. Overlooking notions of the latter even at the level of one port like Assab will be a Faustian bargain that will come back to haunt the region afresh. The deafened silence of Eritreans by the brute force at the helm will inevitably unravel at the proportions of the thirty-year-war-of-independence or worse.

Injecting Personal Views on the Current Events

The measuring yardstick should never come from a place where Eritreans’ voice is muffled and coerced. Listen to a young woman who lost an arm during the 1998 -2000 war with Ethiopia, it will give you an inkling how deep the wounds of war still resonate, not at a physical level but at the raw emotions that moves a listener at a visceral level. As if that wound wasn’t enough, the young woman’s older brother has been posted on the border between Ethiopia and Eritrea for the last twenty years***. Of course, the Asmara residents will come out in droves if they are told to come out to receive anybody that the regime deems appropriate to do so. Anything short of what the Eritreans in Asmara did in receiving PM Abiy Ahmed can be costly. These are people held hostage for the last quarter of a century by the regime in power. Those who have lived under the yoke of the monarchy of Ethiopia know this all too well. Those who lived under the Derg of Ethiopia also know this too well.

So, Eritreans inside Asmara are the anomalies and one doesn’t make conclusive remarks based on exceptions to the rule. It is certain that these Eritreans want peace, but open the border wide in both directions, the direction of the movements will tell the truth. The discomfort created as a consequence of anomalous conditions that distort the specter of truth through the endless visual images of hugs and loves between the two leaders can proffer a false narrative. But, as viewers, we must stay vigilant against some such dispensations. Visual literacy and critical lens combined with our ability to historicize, contextualize what we see with the intent of analyzing the blatant messages and the subtle images, is par for the course.

Meanwhile, hope for Eritreans inside and abroad on the specter of peace being created in the horizon, that chance for us all to see our region try peace for a change, is of monumental import. The only one getting in the way of peace, ironically, is the very man with whom PM Abiy is forging a peace accord. In the final analysis, I am not going to pin my hopes on the man at the helm changing his ways, but I am more than willing to remain on the sideline and watch it unfold. Cheering for peace and hoping for peace to materialize gives me that hope that I know Eritreans will prosper in no time because they’ve done it in the past they can certainly do it within the proximity of the country as they did from without as in Ethiopia and beyond. Political affiliations are such difficult positions to be in when new occasions call for a new way of assessing, synthesizing, analyzing. It is my ardent hope that those of us who have hardline positions against the man at the helm – will take a mortarium – however brief to see if the man can change his ways.

References:

*Search in YouTube titles such as Fukera Ethiopian Music & ሽለላ
**Yefyel weTeTe was a rendition that would come through the radio preceding any ominous announcement that the Derg of Ethiopia was to dispense.
*** The poet, Rumana Berhanu captures how an underage girl valiantly fought in the 1998-2000 war with Ethiopia. This is a voice being dislodged without any coercion as she lives in Sweden.
**** Best Original Rap — The Warriors’ song… ዘራፍ አካኪ ዘራፍ !

About Beyan Negash

Activist, a writer and I am a doctoral candidate (ABD) in Language, Literacy, and Culture at New Mexico State University (NMSU). I hold a bachelor of arts in English and a master of arts in TESOL from NMSU as well as a bachelor of arts in Anthropology from UCLA. My research interests are on colonial discourse and post-colonial theories and their hegemonic impact on patriarchy, cultural identity, literacy development, language acquisition as well as curriculum & citizenship. The geopolitics of the Horn of Africa interests me greatly. My writings tend to focus on Eritrea and Ethiopia. I have been writing opinion pieces at awate.com since its inception (1 September 2001).

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  • Abraham H.

    Hi Abi, not that one, but I’ve seen Amhara protesters in Gonder who were chanting their border goes all the way to Tekeze. And no, unlike what you think, I don’t have that kind of hate, my only hate is towards the Eritrean dictator and those Ethiopians who are dancing with him, and most of the Qey Bahrachin lots seem to be among these people. I want that these people to give up their daydreaming of owning the Eritrean Red Sea.

  • Selam solomon,

    Maybe it does not stand to say that there is a permanent indebtedness of the ethiopian people towards tplf and the people of tigray, because everybody contributed in the fall of the hated derg, some more and others less. Although the same thing has happened to amharas as well, nevertheless there is no excuse whatsoever that the people of tigray should be victimized for the transgression by tplf.

    As much as ethiopians are concerned, tigray will always have the priority if you have to compare tigray with eritrea. There is no way ethiopia will crown dia at the expense of the people of tigray. It is all about peace, which is beneficiary for the people of tigray as well. Fortunately, tigray has declared that it is on the side of peace and rapprochement with eritrea, which shows that tigrayans and the rest of ethiopians are on the same bandwagon.

    Ethiopians do not have any problem with the people of tigray, except the few scoundrels who exploit such situations as they did with the amhara ethnic group, and committed despicable acts.

    Ethiopia without tigray will never be complete, and as said by most ethiopians tplf (the political elites) cannot be the people and the people are not political elites.

    Nobody has the right to push out tigray from the federation, because ethiopia is not amhara, oromia and the rest only, but of course, it is tigray as well. No question about that. Just look at the whole issue as a quarrel between the different political elites of ethiopia, and certainly, it will not get out of control. All ethiopians will prevail together, as they have always done in the past.

  • Hayat Adem

    Dear The Celebrating People,
    In the 1950s, Eritrea was way ahead of Ethiopia in many aspects of advancements: democracy, industrialization, urbanization, modernization etc… In the 1960s Eritrea was integrated to Ethiopia ans treated like the rest parts. Eritreans then were angered for two reasons: the undoing of the federated status and the percieved incompatibility of the ways of life in both.
    The anger was so strong that people picked up arms to correct the mistakes. 30 yrs later, they got what they struggled for and 3yrs later voted for referrendum and overwhelmingly opted for independence. The decision for separation was not made with a sober consideration of the very time at which the referrendum was conducted but with a mindset of the long bitter struggle and the old memory of advantages Eritrea used to have before the armed struggle.
    After independence, the gap has widened up more as Ethiopia has advanced at a faster pace in development and democratization. Recently, Ethiopia is opening up even more while Eritrea is stuck in time and space.
    So, any relationship and cooperation will naturally favor Ethiopia. It is not that we have to discourage any cooperation but it is to point that there needs to be mindfulness of the nature of the situation. During the old times, any relationship and cooperation would favor Eritrea more. Now, it is the other way. Before 20 yrs, the only Ethiopian city that used to be bigger than Asmara was Addis Ababa. Keren and Massawa would count among those in rhe leading league of the rest Ethiopian cities. Now, at least 5 to 6 Ethiopian cities are way ahead of Asmara. And we may count 20 or 30 cities more before considering the 2nd biggest in Eritrea.
    That is how bad things are!

    • Blink

      Dear Hayat
      Just as YG was telling people here you are telling us again . The experience of Ethiopian rule in Eritrea was not as equal and parcel of Ethiopians but it was a brutal ruling that shuts Eritrean languages , culture and at some point ethnic cleansing was as a policy of Ethiopia and for that to say “ equals “ is dishonesty of the most cruel mind game told by some Ethiopians. Again here you are saying “The decision for separation was not made with a sober consideration of the very time at which the referrendum was conducted but with a mindset of the long bitter struggle and the old memory of advantages Eritrea used to have before the armed struggle. ” waw what kind of contribution are you being asked ? Ok this was old game repeatedly told YG and others , we heard them telling us again and again even sometimes adding tears of crocodile.

    • Peace!

      Hi Queen,

      It is good to see you put the Ghedli you bashed and the identity you belittled for years back to their appropriate place, thank you and thank you for adding some stem to our optimism.

      Peace!

    • Guest

      ካብ ምጓያይ ክሳድ ምሐዝ። Being landlocked, Ethiopia will have to spread its legs and will be taken advanatge by its smaller neighboring maritime nations. This is the reality that “Hayat Adma” (ገብረጻድቕ) and በቀለ have to accept and live with.

  • Solomon

    Selam Abi,

    ቀን በቀን አሳዳጊ የበደለው እየመሰልክ ነው። ለምን በስነ ስርዓት አትነጋገርም። ካልተሳድብክ አይሆንልህም። ቤተሰብህን አታሰድብ። ኢትዮጵያዊ አይደለህም እንዴ።

  • Mitiku Melesse

    Hei, all.
    The whole idea of PM Abiy’s movement is peace first than anything else. One stupid program owner asked a rubbish question which the wise PM postponed it for an obvious reason.

    The question was ”what about Ethiopia’s sea out-late”.

    The PM has answered this already when he called Eritrea for peace. Ethiopia accepted the Algiers agreement. Case closed. The rest is warmongers and tplf new strategy to beg for money as usual.

    • Abraham H.

      Selam Mitiku Melesse, I think this question really didn’t need postponement from the good Dr. It is very simple; Ethiopia being one of the thirty something landlocked countries doesn’t have the choice but to make sure it has access to the sea by talking to the transit countries and reaching an agreement with them. The international law allows the right of landlocked countries to access the sea, but how they access it dependends on arrangements made with the transit countries.

      • Mitiku Melesse

        Hei, Abraham.
        Maybe postponed is the wrong word choice. PM Abiy ignored the question because he knows the motive. The same idiot did not utter a word about the sea access when he was busy selling his tv program for woyane media. As Asmara, Badme is not part of Ethiopia Ethiopia’s old accesses to the sea is no longer Ethiopia’s. He made it clear on the Parliament and on the national tv that Ethiopia accepts without but and ifs the Algeris agreement.

        Ethiopia’s main task is to cooperate with Eritrea how to utilize and benefit the sea access for mutual development both economical and military.

  • said

    Greetings,
    Let’s talk about the fact that past ignorance, ineptitude and cruelty are not unique to the Ethiopia king Haile Selassie and crony feudal corrupt system. They have been hallmarks of the Ethiopia police state prior and from 1974 to 1991 and 2018, Now Ethiopia isn’t communist, or even close, Poor Ethiopia, has tried so hard to be a ruthless capitalist, in fact Ethiopia has succeeded at this goal and but realty recent past of 2018 Ethiopia ruling party were feast on the carcass of the dying of Ethiopia, PMAA is not a man who is raging against the EPRDF ruling machine. He is too much a part of the inner machine. His Oromo party were hapless and willing enablers at very least , are a close second .His EPRDF party are the one who were getting richer, average and vast majority Ethiopians are getting poorer, the Ethiopia military is getting my be is less militaristic, no more endless wars are getting more for peace orientation, and the prospect of peace grows ever better .in its 27 years of rule EPRDF render Ethiopian citizenry powerless in the face of the government’s power grabs and abusive tactics. PMAA appearance like a wonder man, peaceful man pretty cool guy. And when it came to the region, a much better diplomat. He is calculative predictable, not reckless, not stupid and not vengeful, A man of peace. he is not looking for an enemy to go war and nor looking for scapegoat, the old EPRDF Someone to blame, not something to change.
    This is the hidden or open face of the EPRDF police state is obvious today. Why should they? He’s giving EPRDF. exactly what they want. Despite claims to the contrary, Ethiopian flock to PMAA as they yearn for a Revelations-style apocalypse, PMAA has reminded us of the real cause for alarm, and this good for Ethiopia ,as of now nothing has really happened. but something profound have changed.
    in Normal time and situation PMAA would be complicit in contributing to the build-up of EPRDF political party, but he was just one man with no power to make changes and the top brass of military’s role in dictating Ethiopian national and international policy. Ethiopians ruling sold to Ethiopians in the name of national security and peace, they maintained by power by the way of martial law disguised as law and order, and enforced by a standing army of militarized police and a political elite crony determined to maintain their powers at all costs—that it’s hard to pinpoint exactly but since 2015 ,wakeup call ,when it all started all was going downhill for Ruling EPRDF.

    Past atrocity exposes a level of cruelty that has no limits. None. kind of failed experiment that ends in the ultimate failure of empire of Ethiopia state. But Ruling EPRDF elite class and cronies they gets all the dough, all the tender loving care.
    Something had to go terribly wrong to produce such as even the present Ethiopian state. The EPRDF experiment was failing, just as in the past, Deluded and ignorant mass were in the habit of eternally praising fantasy of royalty and their the wisest King Hail Selassie Ethiopia ever had. King Hail Selassie become an actual judge, jury, and executioner, a feudal flawed system but not a noble experiment that began century back pick your date and was failing with no “checks and balances,” . the order of the day, self-praise for what? That should seem self-evident enough, even to assesses, reflect and take to account past mistakes. It’s very hard to look back and realize what nation accomplished on the last century and 21 century and two decades plus EPRDF ruling and not think that nation has been sinking under the imperial waves, Dereg wave and EPRDF wave ,age of decline . all heading toward some kind of ultimate failure each in it own way that brought the nation to dead end . The imperial majesty was dismantled and demolished by Dereg and the demolition of Dereg by Eritrean and Tegrian forces and eventual rivalry between the two sister forces for fought for domination, they fell apart that brought unspeakable war and death. And today what exactly Ethiopia we are withdrawing from, that was neve was an issue to begin with. The present change brought by massive protest and demonstration and not a dismantling and demolition per say. Ethiopians can always hope with PMAA for new dream about, and work for so much better, and better Ethiopia economic.

    For years, Ethiopia has imported more than it exports, leading to a gradual depletion of its foreign currency reserves. That decline has accelerated in recent months as higher oil prices have pushed up import costs, how PMAA is going to face an acute foreign exchange crisis.
    Ethiopia external deficit is mounting, its foreign exchange reserves dwindling and the value of its currency depreciating. He’s going to be facing major economical problem and very difficult for his government when they start having to take these very painful steps and address the inequalities of wealth, new economic policies to pull the poor out of the poverty trap, there is a lack of diversity in the ranks of state advisors and policymakers and work hard not to make marginalisation of any minority ethnic groups in the country. to unite the nation behind common economic and social objectives. To reconcile and must be acknowledged thousands who were subject to politically motivated violence. PMAA should be seeking justice for overlooked and voiceless Ethiopians. and transparent investigations into historical injustices committed. The transformation of Ethiopia into a security state has cost its society tremendously. Ethiopians are hoping the beginning of a new era had started, not the continuation of the same old policy of EPRDF and just as PMAA has started harmonious relations with all neighbors will be greatly beneficial to Ethiopia.

    • Mitiku Melesse

      Hei, Said.
      Can you say one positive thing any Ethiopian government has ever done?

      • Blink

        Dear Mitiku
        One simple thing was education at the time of Hailessilassie .

        • Mitiku Melesse

          Hei, Blink.
          Thanks.

          • Blink

            Dear Mitiku
            Yes but for that to come people need to recognize the mistakes done by their rulers and I think we all can agree the new generation didn’t nothing wrong . Let’s hope we come to common again.

  • Hameed Al-Arabi

    Hi All,

    Let us put forward a probability, which I don’t wish to happen to Ethiopia, that Tigrai will be separated from Ethiopia, also the Afars ensue the same. These new arrangements or changes will directly make Eritrean neighbors Tigrai and Afar. The question is: How will act the extremists and worshipers of Isaias? It is wonderful, the very guys they hate will be their immediate neighbors. Celebrate bigots we want to see more HOHs till exhaustion. I expect Isaias will kiss, like Asfaha Weldmicael, the shoes of Weyane.

    • Hameed Al-Arabi

      Hi all,

      We don’t know for sure where will be heading Ethiopia tomorrow. We should be cautious and ready to all probabilities. The fools and insane only who have one reading to everything in life. This always makes them subject to grave mistakes that will result on a catastrophic situation. Since we don’t know exactly what will occur next day in Ethiopian, our priority should be demarcation of our border. We don’t want to lose tens of thousands for a border cause again. Enough is enough.

    • Abraham H.

      Selam Hameed, I don’t think it is in the interest of Tigray nor Afar to separate from the rest of Ethiopia. As you know, having a separate entity requires all kinds of resources: human, natural, and material resources. But I’ve noticed there are some efforts by some Amharas to change the existing Killil map, so that the Amara border extends to Tekeze, including a big chunk of existing western Tigray and having a border with Eritrea. I think this is part of the agenda of encircling Tigray, and securing direct access to Eritrea, and hence the sea.

      • Blink

        Dear Abraham

        Did you see the old map of Ethiopia before TPLF put their hand on it ? It was TPLF who abused their power in drawing Tigray Map by taking from different parts of Ethiopia and Eritrea and for such a mistake to be corrected a new Map that puts its size in its original one is needed. Many Tigrians still think Badme is their land just as welkait is and for this game to rest people need more of peaceful mind.

        • Abraham H.

          Selam Blink, I’m not aware of the process how exactly they delimitated the Killil borders, but the Constitution states the following regarding this issue:

          “States shall be delimited on the basis of the settlement patterns, language, identity and consent of the peoples concerned.”
          The Constitution even gives the Nations and Nationalities within the existing states to decide their own states if they so wish.

          At least the Ethiopians have constitutional guidelines of how to delimitate the state borders and how to addresss border conflicts between states; what is hard to grasp is how the Eritrean zonal administrations have been carved out. To me it just looks like the way the European colonial powers had partitioned Africa.

  • Blink

    Dear All
    Once a thief always a thief and that is what the current TPLF thug did . He bragged about TPLF fighters died in Eritrea in line with EPLF.
    Why did TPLF do that ? I think still TPLF can not be trusted even for a causal breakfast place. The guy simply dashed the many ERITREAN heroes died in crushing 604 and also he forget the lectures given to TPLF guards at the expense of our meal . He lied openly in front of the whole world only to score negative on the lie machine . Why was that ?

  • Kbrom

    Hi all,

    What is being celebrated so we those who are slow and not celebrating the ‘ፌስታን ደስደስን’ can understand it and celebrate with our brothers and sisters or in case those who are celebrating are wrong so we can make our modest contribution to bring the day we can celebrate all of us together.

    1. Border is not demarcated, not even dialogue started
    ብዙ ሰዊች ኢትዮጲያ ውስጥ ከኤርትራ ስንነጋገር ኣጠቃላይ ንግግራችን ድንበር ኣድርገው ያስባሉእስከ ኣሁን ስለድንበር ኣልተነጋገርንም እውነት ለመናገር ድንበር በጣም ሰከንደሪ ኢሹ ነው. PMAA Washington DC July 28.
    When PMAA visited Asmara he talked about Ports and Ethiopian airlines, then he implicated demarcation as የቀሩ ጥቃቅን ነገሮች
    2. More than ten thousand Eritreans are currently languishing in known and unknown prison camps as they were before June 5.
    3. National pronouncements, including sovereign decisions such as giving unlimited access of ports, normalisation of relations before the demarcation of the land that claimed the life of 20,000 young Eritreans, are being taken by one person.
    4. Constitutions is still under prison, no rule of law, no due process of law, no separation of power; the executive, the judiciary, the legislative even the fourth power – the media is PIA, PIA, PIA, PIA!
    5. Tens of thousands youth still in unlimited national service
    6. PIA’s extreme despises towards Eritrean people is getting worse. Not only PIA refused to consult with his own people, but he does not believe the people deserve to know what decisions is he taking.

    Yet some of us are rejoicing, boogying, warbling and declaring the Jour V as the French would like to put it. Can you please share with us the good news so we can join you!

    • Amanuel

      Hi Kbrom
      I agree with your points above. Even it is becoming clearer that it is more to do with incentive comes with it (cash) from the real beneficiaries than the two people. https://thearabweekly.com/ethiopian-and-eritrean-leaders-mark-peace-accord-abu-dhabi

      Having said that making peace is a positive thing even if it is fragile and dubious like this. I think we can use this opportunity as a uniting factor between the silent majority & opposition camp to bring about a constitutional government in Eritrea. From the few comments I have read it appears that forumers seem focused on scoring points against each other rather than looking for the positive opportunities this period will provide them with.

      If the opposition camp wants to bring change in Eritrea, it needs to be forward looking and take a big chunk of the silent majority with it. Sadly, It looks like the opposition camp hasn’t learned from its past mistakes. Bickering about this peace deal will not help us to influence the future, however, being proactive and campaign for constitutional government in Eritrea will definitely get traction.

      Kind regards
      Amanuel

      • Kbrom

        Dear Emma,

        You raised very important points; I agree what you rightly outlined should be the perspective of our roadmap. However, one thing that we might need to talk about is the importance of pausing at where we are to ask ourselves what do we mean by opposition, who is opposition, why is everyone making the opposition its كبش فداء scapegoat per se,

        Virtually everyone who writes an article or conducts an interview and posts in the walls of its face book, would say ዘይረብሑ ተቓወምቲ; we do not even try to sandwich our harsh criticism with due credit to their effort, time and dedication, they demonstrated in the last three decades. Some of them warned us about the dangers of the absence of rule of law in Eritrea and started the tough task of opposing the regime as early as 1993 when most of us were ridiculing them, blurred by the colourful lights of the hey days fantasies.

        Many people compare the opposition with their peers in neighbouring countries, for example in Ethiopia and Sudan. However, there is no room for comparison or any resemblance between our opposition group and those in neighbouring countries. The opportunity, the freedom, the platforms (though restricted) they have is unmatched with the hermetically sealed oppression we have had in Eritrea since independence. Moreover, any opposition group/party is as strong as its members and the support he gets from its followers. Isn’t it?

      • saay7

        Selamat Amanuel:

        Welcome back to awate.

        Suppose Eritrea has the world’s worst opposition. It’s certainly possible since we spring from the same culture and value system that gave the world the worst government*

        Now, my question is, why are the issues the opposition vocalizes—-freeing prisoners of conscience and instituting political system that ensures there will never be more; returning exiles; free press; demobilization of soldiers; and all reforms that would fulfill the goals of the Eritrean revolution….why are they the monopoly of the opposition? Why aren’t they the causes of the supporters and the silent majority? After all, the factors that contributed to the silence of the majority and the supporters are gone?

        saay

        * not hyperbole. I can actually make a good case that the government in Eritrea is the worst in the world.

    • MS

      Selam Kbrom
      I think there is a cause to celebrate, and I think that’s why the people of Asmara, Addis Ababa, Mekele, Awasa and other places celebrated. You asked, “Well, then, what is that you guys celebrate?”
      1. The war has ended, there is an opportune time for healing wounds. It takes careful treading but things are on the right track. The end of a gruesome war, in and of itself, is a reason to celebrate. Don’t you think so?
      2. Peace between the two countries will have multifaceted dividends including positive impact on Eritrea’s domestic politics.
      3. Peace between the two countries will have positive contribution for the peace and security of the region. Somalia and Eritrea have already announced they normalized their relationship.
      I could speak of the derivatives of each of the above, but you don’t need it Kbrom. You are asking the question not because you don’t get this but because it has become a habit (gega yKle’aley ember).
      For those who hate to see people killing people, the end of war by itself is a cause to celebrate.

      • Kbrom

        Dear MS

        ኣገደስቲ ሓሳባት ምልዓልካ አመስግነካ፡ ብኸምዚ ዝኣመሰለ ምምይያጥ ጥራይ ንቕድሚት ክንሱጉም ንኽእል ዝብል እምነት ኣሎኒ። .

        1. ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ኣብ ታሪኹ ኣርእይዎ ብዘይፈልጥ ወለንታዊ ተበግሶ፡ ዉዕዉዕ ኣቀባብላ ዝገበረሉ ምኽንያት፡ ንኽብሪ ፕረዚደንት ኢሳያስ ኣፍወርቂ ኣይኮነን። ምስናይ ምሉእ ኣኽብሮት ንኽብሪ ዶክተር ኣቢዩ፡ ጥራይ እውን ኣይኮነን፡ እንታይ ደኣ ንጽማኣት ሓርነቱ፡ ንባህጊ ምፍታሕ እሱራቱ፡ ስለ ንቡር ህይወት ክነብር፡ ንስለቶም ኣብ ዘይውዳእ ኣገልግሎት ወፊሮም ዘለዉ ደቁ ክሓቁፍ፡ ብዘለዎ ሓባራዊ ሕልሚ ተደሪኹ ኢዩ ውሒዙ ወጺኡ። ልክዕ ኢዩ እዚ ባህጊ እዚ ብመንገዲ እዚ ዝቀላቐል ዘሎ ሰላም ጥራይ ኢዩ ዝመጽእ ዝብል እምነቱ ዕዙዝ ስለዝኾነ፡ ፍቕሩ፡ ኣኽብሮቱ ልዕሊኡ ድማ ኣብ ዶክተር ኣቢዩ ዘለዎ ልዑል ትጽቢት ኣርኢዩዎ ። ናይ ሶማልያ ፕረዚደንት ኣብ ዝኣተወሉ እዋን ዝተገበረ ናይ ኣቀባብላ ፍልልይ ነዚ ሓቂ ዝእምት ኢዩ። ስለዚ ናይ ዶክተር ኣቢዩ ተሓጋገዝትን ናይ መጽናዕቲ ክኢላታትን ነቲ ኩነት ብቐረባ ተዓዚቦሞን ተንቲኖሞን እንተኾይኖም፡ ጉዕዙኡ ‘ምብጻሕ ናብ ኤርትራ’ ዘይኮነስ ‘ምስካም ሓላፍነት ህዝቢ ኤርትራ’ ኢሎም ኪግለጽዎን ብኸመኡ ጸብጻቦም ክህቡዎን ኢዮ ዝግባእ። ብዛዕባ ህዝቢ ኣዋሳ ኣዲስ ኣበባ መቐለ ዘልዓልካዮ ዝፍለጦ የብለይን።

        2. ውግእ ተወዲኡ ኢልካ እሞ ብኸመይ ቢለ ክሓትት ምመረጽኩ። ውግእ ዘኽትም ብልዕልና ሕጊን ብትግባረ ብይንን ጥራይ ኢዩ። ውግእ ተወዲኡ ክብል ዝኽእል ዓሚ ዘይነበረ ሕጂ ዝረአ፡ እሞ ድማ ብልዕልና ሕጊን ኣህጉራዊ ውዕላትን ዝተዋሕሰ እንታይ ነገር ስለዘሎ ኢዩ። እዚ ሕጂ ንርእዮ ዘሎና ኩነት ውግእ ተወዲኡ ዘብል እንተኾይኑ ቅድሚ 16 ዓመት ሰባት ከይሃለቑን ዕድላትን ጸጋታትን ኤርትራ ከይጸንቀቕና ክንገብረሉ ዘይከኣልና ምኽንያት እንታይ ኢዩ።

        ውግእ ተወዲኡ ማለት ህወሓት ዕብለልኡ ኣብ ኢህወደግ ኣብቂዑ ስለዚ ወላ መሬትና ተወሪሩ ከሎ፡ እንኮስ እንቋዕ ወያነ ዕብለልኡ ኣኽተመን ህልኽና ኣውጻእናን እምበር መሬትና ደለ ይኽን ንምባል ተኾይኑ ግን፡እቲ ውግእ ኣብ ስትራተጂካዊ ጉዳያት ዘይኮነስ ኣብ ውልቃዊ ሕሳባትን ህልኽን ኢዩ ተሞርኪሱ ነይሩ ማለት ኢዩ። ከምኡ ተኾይኑ ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ንናይ ሓደ ሰብኣይ ህልኽን ቅርሕንትን፡ ኣብ ልዕሊ ሰለስተ ወለዶታቱ ኩናትን ሰላምን ክእወጀሉ ኣለዎ ኣብ ዝብል መደምደምታ ትርዕም ኣሎኻ ማለትዩ፡ ብወገነይ እዚ ኣመለኻኽታ ንህዝቢ ኤርትራ ከቢድ ዋጋ ዘኽፈለ ስለዝኾነ ኪኸውን ዘይነበሮ ኢለ እኣምን። እዚ ይኹን እምበር ወያን ኣብ ልዕሊ ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ዘርኣዮ ክሕደትን ገበንን ክንጸባጸቦን ብታሪኽ ተሓታቲ ኪኸውንን ይግባእ!

        ብኣንጻሩ እቲ ተጓንየ ዝብል ዘሎ ህወሓት፡ ምሕባር ወይ ምብትታን ዘስምዕ ሙግቡዕቧዕ ይገብር ኣሎ። ኤርትራ ምስ ትግራይ ኢያ እትዳወብ፡ኣብ ኢትዮጲያ ዘሎ ምትፍናን ንዓና ዘርብሕ ኣይኮነን። ምጅማር ኢትዮጲያን ኣየርላይንስ፡450 ኢትዮጲያውያን በጻሕቲ ናብ ኣስመራን ባጽዕን ሙኽዳድ፡ኤርትራውያን ነጋዶ ተሳዲዶም ከለዉ ኢትዮጲያውያን ‘ኣውፈርቲን ነጋዶን’ ኣስመራ ኣትዮም ገምጋም ምግባር ምልክት ናይ ምውዳእ ኩናት ኣይኮነን፡ ሓባሪ ምውዳእ ኩናት እቲ ብሰንኪ ኣብ ኩናት ምንባርና ዝተስገደደ ኩላትና (እንተላይ ክቡር ማሕሙዳይ) ዘይትደልዮ ስቓይ ህዝቢ፡ ማእሰርቲ ኣረጋውያንን ህጻናትን፡ ምብትታን ስድራቤታት፡ ስደት ባሕርን ጣሕርን፡ ቡኩራት ልዕልና ሕግን ሓርነትን፡ ወዘተ ክቕንጠጥ ከሎ ኢዩ።እቲ ካልእ ጥማዓዊን መቐጸልታ ናይቲ ተሰዊሩ ዘሎ ሰብኣዊ ሓርነትን ክብረትን ኢዩ።

        3. እወ ሰላም ኣብ መንጎ ክልቲአን ሃገራት ንረብሓ ዞባና እውን ኢዩ፡ ብርግጽ እዚ ርክባት እዚ ንሰላም ሙኻኑ ዘደስት እኳ እንተኾነ፡ ስምምዓት፡ ኣብ መንጎ ህዝብታትን ብንስምምዓት ዘማእክልን ዘማእዝንን ልዕልና ሕጊ ዝተዋሕሱ ምስዝኹኑ ኢዩ ዘተኣማንንን ናይ ህዝብን ውዕል ዝኸውን። እቲ ኣእላፍ ህይወት ሰባት ዝወደአ ኩናት ኢትዮ ኤርትራ ቅድሚ ምንቷጉ ተመሳሳሊ ፍቕሪን ሕብእብእን ኣብ መንጎ ፕረዚደንት ኢሳያስን ነብስሄር ቀዳማይ ሚኒስተር ነበር መለስ ዜናዊን (መንግስተ ሰማያት የዋርሶ) ነይሩ ኢዩ። ከምቲ ኩላትና ዝረኣናዮን ፡ እቲ ውልቃዊ ፍቕሪ ናብ ውልቃዊ ጽልኢ ምስተቐየረ ህዝብታት ክልቲኤን ሃገራት ዓዳዩ ተረካብ ምትህልላኽ ክልቲኦም መራሕቲ ኮይኖም። ለባምን መስተውዓሊን ሙኻንካ ስለዝግንዘብ፡ ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ኣብ ጉዳዩ ዝዋሳእ ኪኸውን ኣለዎ ኢልካ ትኣምን ኢለ እግምት። ዛጊድ ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ይትረፍ ኣብዚ ወሳኒ ጉዳይ ሃገሩ ክዋሳእ፡ እንታይ ተገይሩ፡ እንታይ ተባሂሉ፡ እንታይ ተሰማሚዖም፡ እንታይ ይሕሰብ ኣሎ፡ ዝሰምዖ ዘሎ ካብ ሳልሳይ ወገን፡ ብተዘዋዋሪ እሞ ድማ ፍርቀ ፍርቂ ኢዩ። ንኣብነት እቲ መሬቱ ሓራ ክወጽእ ሓደን ሽዱሽተን ስዉኣት ካብ ሓንቲ ገዛ ዝኸፈለ ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ወደብ ዓሰብ እንታይ ትኸውን ዘላ ዝሕበር ዘሎ ካብ በዓል መዚ ማሪታይም ኢትዮጲያ ሙኻኑ ዓጀብ ዘብልን ዘሰቅቕን ኢዩ።

        4. ኣብ ጽሑፍካ ዘሎ You are asking the question not because you don’t get this but because it has become a habit (gega yKle’aley ember) ዝበልካዮ ምስናይ ልዑል ኣኽብሮት ተጋጊኻ ማሕሙዳይ፡ ድሕነት ኤርትራን ህዝባን ጥራይ ኢዩ ዘዛርበኒ ዘሎ!

        ምስ እዛ እትስዕብ ኣብ መወዳእታ ዘስፈርካያ መደምደምታኻ ምሉእ ብምሉእ እሰማማዕ For those who hate to see people killing people, the end of war by itself is a cause to celebrate. የግዳስ ኣብ መንጎ ህዝብታት ክልተ ሃገራት ዝግበር ምቅትታል እንዳጸልአ፡ ሓደ ዜጋ፡ መንግስቲ (ፖሊስን ጸጥታን ስለዝሓዘ) ንገዛእ ዜጋታቱ ኪቐትልን ግዳይ ኪገብርን ከሎ ኪድግፎን ጽቡቕ መንገዲ ሒዝካ ኣሎኻ ኢሉ ክንእዶን ምርኣይ እንተወሓደ መንኮር! ዘብል ኢዩ ዝኸውን።

        Definition of Peace by Merriam-Webster

        peace
        noun ˈpēs

        a a state of tranquility or quiet:
        b : a state of security or order within a community provided for by law or custom
        2: freedom from disquieting or oppressive thoughts or emotions
        3: harmony in personal relations
        4a : a state or period of mutual concord between governments
        b : a pact or agreement to end hostilities between those who have been at war or in a state of enmity
        5—used interjectionally to ask for silence or calm or as a greeting or farewell
        — at peace

        • MS

          ሰላም ክብሮም
          ኣብዘን ዝሓለፋ ሳምንታት ብዙሕ ሓናጢጠ እየ። ኣብዞም ትብሎም ዘለኻ፡ ብፍላይ ንኣመሓድራ ፍትሒ፡ እሱራት ምፍታሕ፡ካልእ ብስራት ሓድሽ ዘመን ዝኸውን ስጉምትታት ክውሰዱ ንክቡር ፕረሲደንትናን መንግስትናን (እሕም፡ HaileS ኢለካ እንድየ፡ እዚ ሰብኣይ ገለ ኣውሒጦሞ ክብል ምዃኑ ይርደኣኒ እዩ) ግን ከምቲ ሳልሕ ዩኑስ ዝብሎ ምዝኽኻር ጽቡቕ እዩ። ማለት ክሉ እዚ ትብሎ ዘለኻ፡ ንውሽጣዊ ፖለቲካና ዝምልከት፡ ጠፊኡኒ ወይ ጎስየዮ ኣይኮንኩን። ግን ኲናት ብወግዒ ደው ምባሉ ኣሐጒሱና እንተበልናስ ክንግሰጽ የብልናን። እቶም እዚ ዝነእሰኩም እውን መሰልኩም እዩ ከይትሕጎሱ። ምኽንያቱ ስለምንታይ ትሕጎሱ ኣለኹም ኢልካ ስለዝሓተትካ እየ መሊሰ እምበር፡ ስለምንታይ ብታሕጓስ ክንዲ’ዚ ትፍንጫሕ እንተዝኸውን እቲ ሕቶ፡ “ያእ ሓቁ’ዶ ይኸውን፡ ቅሩብ ካብ ዓቐኑ ዝሓለፈ’ዶ ገይርናዮ” ኢልና ንነብስና ምገናሕና ነይርና።
          እዚ ይኹን እቲ፡ እቲ ኲናት ቀደም ክውዳእ ነይርዎ፡ ምኽንያት ምቕርሓን ዝምድናታት ኣህዛብ እዚ ዞባ ወያነ ምንባሩ ሎሚ በሪሁ ኣሎ። እቲ ኲናት ከኣ ብናተይ፡ ኣበጋግስኡን ኣተሓሕዛኡን ብዘየገድስ፡ ኣብ መንጎ ህዝቢ ኤርትራን ስርዓት ወያነን እዩ ነይሩ። ናይ ኢሰያስ ኲናት ኣይነበረን። ወያነ ምስ ፍልስፍንኡን ጎባጢ ኣተሓሳስብኡን ምስ ተኣልየ፡ ኤርትራን ኢትዮጵያን ጥራይ ዘይኮነስ፡ እቲ ዞባ ብምልኡ እውን ከይተረፈ ንፋስ ሰላም ክወቕዖ ክኢሉ ኣሎ።
          ኣብ መወዳእታ፡ እዚ ሰላም ሱር እንተሰዲዱን ኣታእማማኒ እንተኾይኑን፡ ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ባዕሉን ብሰላማዊ መገድን ብደፋእታን ዘድሊ ለውጢ ከተኣታቱ እዩ። እቲ መንግስቲ እውን ንርእሱ ኢሉ ነቲ ሰላም ዝደፍኦ ትጽቢታት ከማልእ ክግደድ እዩ።
          እዚ ምስቲ ክማገተሉ ዝጸንሓኩ ለውጢ ብውሽጣዊ ድፍኢት ዝብል መርሓ ይሰማማዕ ስለዝኾነ ብተወሳኺ ትስፉው ክኸውን ሃይሊ ይህበኒ።
          ብዛዕባ ንምክፋል ሓበረታ ዝምልከት ንመንግስቲ ብተደጋጋሚ ጸዊዐ እየ። “ቅልውላው” ን “ድሕረ-ቅልውላው” ዝብላ ጽሑፋት እንተረኣኻ ጽቡቕ እዩ።
          In addition, እዛ ትስዕብ ድማ ንገለ ንቀዳምነታት ዝምልከት ሓሳባት ተናኪፈላ ኣለኹ።
          You can skip the congratulatory notes and go down to the enumerated prioritization according to my understanding.
          http://www.erigazette.org/?p=11787

          • Haile S.

            Selam Mahmoud,
            You are funny! Now that you said it, the expression that comes to my mind is, in amharic, ሰላም ያሳበደው from an equivalent expression and book ዲግሪ ያሳበደው of Mamo Wudneh, one of the most influential Ethiopian writters and translators, if not the top. Don’t ask me detail from the book, it escaping my memory. Abi will remember. Back to you, እንቋዕ ሕጂ ስዋኻ ኣቅጥን ኣበልካዮ፡ ጽምኣትና ከነርዊ። ብጣዕሚ ሓፊሱ ስለዝጸንሓ ክንለኽፎ ኣይከኣልናን ኔርና።

      • Peace!

        Hi MS,

        Very well said. The war has officially ended, and peace is finally prevailing.

        Peace!

    • Simon Kaleab

      Selam Kbrom,

      As Mahmud [in his post below] said, a major reason for celebration is the removal of uncertainty and the atmosphere of war and the arrival of peace.

      Peace between the two countries will bring many positive dividends such as the setting of a time limit to National Service obligations, the quiet freeing of political prisoners and other prisoners of conscience, and creating a conducive environment for private enterprise.

      Our demands and expectations must be realistic and we should not repeat the mistakes of the G-15 by following the path of confrontation and anarchy. A mismatch between reality and expectation may lead to a civil war, which a young and poor nation such as Eritrea cannot afford to have. The cumulative effects of many small positive steps will make life in Eritrea tolerable, so will be no need for revolutionary demands. It is better to follow the path of national development with stepwise refinement.

      Considering the fault lines within Eritrean society and the guerrilla movement traditions of the EPLF/PFDJ, I do not think Eritrea is ready for Scandinavian type of democracy as yet.

      • Ismail AA

        Selam Simon Kaleab,

        The shallowness of regime advocacy some try to sell is amazingly self-exposing. Just look at this: “Our demands and expectations (…) should not repeat the mistakes of the G-15 by following the path of confrontation and anarchy”. Labelling the G-15 as group of concerned Eritreans as reckless adventurers is shameless mockery to an insider observer’s intelligence, and deceptive misleading to an outsider. It would have honorable had you stated in straightforward language your concern so narrow and limited to ensuring durability of the regime.

        Now, an innocent question to our brother, Simon the pacifist, is how had a group of concerned Eritreans become “confrontation” seekers and “anarchists” when they asked accountabilities for the war that had caused unimaginable national humiliation and waste of human live and resources within the then available so called “national council”?. Moreover, frightening the Eritreans of fragility of the Eritrean entity and menace of civil war when it suits, and boasting about its solidity and power self-preservation thanks to perseverance and waiting ability of the hero at the its helm is dubious.

        What your are telling is that peace should be as germane as it can be for the regime. It shouldn’t cost it a dime more than (quiet!!) release of prisoners, some flexibility on conscription and more urgent opening the country to investors. Constitutional matters (rule of law, minimum liberties and freedoms), concern for old and recent refugees, accountability for the loss the nation had incurred in the past decades etc. should remain taboo.

        • Simon Kaleab

          Selam Ismail AA,

          At first, the people of Eritrea knowingly entered into a BINDING contract by starting and fully supporting guerrilla movements through their persons and wealth. From the outset it was evident that such movements did not and could not practice democracy and did not offer Scandinavian type of democracy for the future on their REAL menu other than paying lip service to it. Historical examples were abundant throughout the world for all to see.

          In the end, all revolutions and all guerrilla movements fail to achieve the promised land. Similarly, the careers of all politicians end up in failure. This being the harsh reality, wouldn’t it be better to follow the path of national development with stepwise refinement rather than spend huge amounts of life and wealth of generations on the pie in the sky promise of El Dorado?

          • Ismail AA

            Dear Simon,

            I can understand where you’re coming from though there is sweeping generalization. But the problem is how you can square the minimum demand our people has been making with demand of democracy on Scandinavia. Can a rational mind accept the logic that since movements with guerrilla warfare background had not delivered on democracy and good governance, the one we have in Eritrea is a fait accompli the Eritrean people are fated to live with, and should just hope the rulers could turn to be benevolent and grace them with trickle down tit bits. I hope your awareness is much broader and more mature than that.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Ismail AA,

            In the end, all revolutions and all guerrilla movements fail to achieve their promised land. This is, rather than a sweeping generalisation, the rule.

            The G-15 could have done a Deng Xiaoping [and associates] or a Gorbachev [and friends] i.e. a subtle reform from inside. But the G-15 lost the plot as they lacked common sense and a fine touch.

          • Ismail AA

            Dear Simon,

            Sagacity is a measure of efficacy of a person’s faculty to judge things. Frankly, I do not know what competence and moral high ground you enjoy to appraise the members of G-15 to have “lacked common sense”. On my part, I don’t dare to make such a risky and grandiloquent judgement. It involves accomplished personalities such as Dawit Mesfin and Prof. Berekhet among several others. You know, as I do, that no one among them was in position to act the way Deng Xiaoping did.

            Now you asked me if I could cite instances of former guerrilla movements in governing. Well, modern China started as guerrilla movement, Vietnam, Angola, Mozambique, France under De Gaule, Ethiopia under EPRDF, Algeria and so on. Now bear with me and exercise some prudence not to ignore objective and subjective environments that govern success or failure in those cases.

          • Abraham H.

            Selam Simon, our demands are simple:

            -Rule of law even by third world standard, end to one man rule; evil man at that who doesn’t have the interests of the Eritrean people in heart
            -Release of all political prisoners and prisoners of conscience
            -End to impunity
            -End to monopolization of the economy by the ruling party
            -Allow the people to lead a normal daily life, not life under siege
            -Let the people who left the country to return and build thier lives
            -Allow progressive freedom of expression
            etc
            The above demands are not demanding a scandinavian style democracy, but rather a normalcy the Eritrean people deseerves and paid darely for. I think any sensible person understands that democracy is a process and it doen’t grow overnight, but through progressive development of the society. This fact is particularly true in third world countries like ours, where there is the added challenge of heterogeneous communities residing in the same territory.

      • Blink

        Dear Simon
        Here is a statement made by one person in this forum. There will be perhaps be a need for an Eritrean Mohammod Bouziz’s sidi bouzid ( is a Tunisian guy who burned his body on street ) to turn the smouldering fire in to flames. Acria nearly did it “

        can you imagine such kind of people to bring peace and democracy to Eritrea ?

        • Simon Kaleab

          Selam Blink,

          Meaning, encourage “an Eritrean Mohammod Bouziz Sidi Bouzid” from a safe distance?

          • Blink

            Dear Simone
            Yes that’s their dream , they have been dreaming someone to die for their plan of forming Afar state , kunama state and get power by affirmative action. They have been dreaming such and that’s why they admire Meles .

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Blink,

            All such encouragers are retired, old and infirm people. They plan to use the remote control from a safe distance.

            By the way, Meles was a clever little fellow, and as you know, he had bad aspects and good aspects.We need to be fair and give ‘-‘ to the bad and ‘+’ to the good deeds.

          • Blink

            Dear Simon
            Why do they ( these ) old dreamers of bad admire Meles was one simple thing and that is he helped them foster ethnic divisions in Eritrea by allowing them to form Ethnic politics organization of Eritreans.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Blink,

            Meles inherited ethnic divisions from the Ethiopian Empire which expanded rapidly during Menelik II.

            The major problems that spurred the revolution against Haile Selassie were, the feudal land system, lack of social mobility, economic stagnation, ethnic oppression etc.

            Meles tried to solve the ethnic problems through autonomy. But there is bad faith on many sides. The main problems in Ethiopia are:

            1) Amhara elite greed and chavinism
            2) Oromo/Galla divided elite persecution complex.

          • Blink

            Dear Simone
            Come on , Meles used many questionable policy to block his opponents like terrorism , redrawing Map , developmental system that favors Tigrian companies like Effort and also many other foreign policy that put Ethiopia at danger . The foreign policy towards Eritrea was all but to milk Ethiopia by telling them false stories. Meles used many horrible techniques in order to rule Ethiopia and I think to call him problem solver is a big mistake .

            Amhara , come on Simone the reality is not as you said . Oromo , well here you have lema openly accusing TPLF .

          • Ismail AA

            Selam Simon,

            If you are going to trust the feeds you get your friend, I am afraid you are heading towards credibility crisis. Look how you have messed up with even properly coping the name. Dear, there no person by the name “ Mohammod Bouziz Sidi Bouzid”.

        • Ismail AA

          Dear Blink,

          I stopped since a while ago engaging you in any meaningful debate. I just gain nothing save being bombarded by condemnation and hate mongering at time, and exultation and total submission at another, depending on how you see you discharge of the mission you are given or chosen. I have caught you at least twice trying to sell what wrote in one my previous entries in specified context, which you tried to twist and distort in vain. Now, you are trying to tell our brother Simon about some danger your imagination has seen lurking on the horizon.

          Hoping you will be kind enough to keep away, I ask you humbly to be serious and selfless debater we would be proud of if you can come out from the closet and engage me and others by fully identifying yourself. You know I am dealing with you using real name and not fake one like yours. If you choose to refuse, the please leave me alone.

          My sincere apology to the readers for exhibiting a bit dismayed demeanor.

          • Blink

            Dear Mr.Ismail
            I just informed Simon the gab between many people who sing justice and to do that I posted from your plea . If you are saying I took it out of context pls help me understand unless that’s what exactly you said. I did not add or subtract .

            Ok , I hope you understand I have the choice to use nickname . By the way what will you get from my real name , I mean I have millions of names to choose ( if infact I wanted not to use my real name) . Second , why is such question posed to people you don’t agree ?
            Third I did not insult you or anyone for that matter but we have disagreements here and there . I really don’t want you to engage with me as I don’t want you to get angry with me but if you are asking me not to quote you , well that’s really a tough call as we all are commenting about a common country called Eritrea. Remember you are no more Eritrean than anyone and you fight for justice as anyone no more than anyone else. Again i sincerely apologize for using you plea.

          • Ismail AA

            Dear Blink,
            Thank you for calming down. I asked for real name not for anything else but it protect the person from exceeding limits and abusing the freedom this forum provides. Dealing with nicknames is like dealing virtual persons who may or may not exist. Anyway, let us stop it here.

      • Kbrom

        Dear Simon

        Re: a major reason for celebration is the removal of uncertainty and the atmosphere of war and the arrival of peace.

        What are the legal and tangible realities that ensure ‘the removal’ what is the difference between pre 5th of June and now? removal of weyane from EPRDF? a) wasn’t our objective demarcation and rule of law b) EPRDF is still in power c) the confrontation with TPLF creates more war environment d) Ethiopia is in a brink of ethnic tension e) peace is not absence of gun shooting f) why are those who are celebrating not asking if we were ready to talk ( in fact PMAA said we have never discussed boarder until today 28 July) why we paid all these lifes g) how do we know the process and the agreement is about removal of uncertainty when we are left absolutely uncertain and kept in dark h) how do we know the atmosphere represents the Eritrean people whilst there is none who represents the people in the deals?

        re: Our demands and expectations must be realistic G-15 by following the path of confrontation and anarchy. I am not sure what you mean by this statement. No one has called for ‘confrontation and anarchy’. What do you mean our demands must be realistic; we should accept the new abnormal normal, abandon any accountability, ሃዋሁው ሰላም ጥራይ ይምጻእ እምበር መሬትና ወላ ይመለስ ኣይመለስ ደለ ይኹን?

        re፡ The cumulative effects of many small positive steps will make life in Eritrea tolerable, so there will be no need for revolutionary demands.

        I am not sure what do you mean by there will be no need for ‘revolutionary demands’. is the release of prisoners, the rule of law, limiting NS, freedom of speech unrealistic and revolutionary demands?

        Re: cumulative effects of many small positive steps will make life in Eritrea tolerable.

        which positive steps are you talking about isn’t such a kind of taking the abnormal as normal making our country the worst in the world, how is ‘life in Eritrea tolerable’ when Ethiopian youth are enjoying’ in Massawa and Assab whilst its youth is languishing in terrible life,when the PIA did not even bother to tell what is happening to the no war no peace situation that claimed the exodus of thousands youth, how is it near tolerable when people are being taken from their homes to unknown jails everyday because they listen to religious songs of a pentecostal preacher whilst the preacher himself is received with red carpet, why are we taking Eritreans for granted?

    • saay7

      Selam Kbrom:

      It’s none of the above, kbur Kbrom. If it was any of the above, since the peace broke out, people would be talking about prisoners freed, media licensed, opposition approached, exiles returning home, new politicians emerging. That’s what happens in every post-Peace country.

      Do you see any TALK about that much less action about it? No. What do you hear and see? Weyane, TPLF, thugs, day time hyena, Weyane, Weyane Weyane.

      So that’s what they are celebrating. The end of an era in Ethiopia not the beginning of one in Eritrea. They are still hoping the guy who created all the problems will solve them. Hoping by the way, not even planning but hoping.

      saay

      • Mitiku Melesse

        Hei, Saay7
        Didnt you say that it is only PIA can decide on the destiny of Eritrea?
        And taking into consideration of US policy on Eritrea and tplf NPNW dont you think PIA the lonely man has done his best?

      • Peace!

        Hi saay,

        Ethiopians went in the streets fought and paid price for their demands, and with that in mind, signing peace treaty with Ethiopia doesn’t make it free in Eritrea. What many people are asking if the hovering situation would allow for people to go out in the streets and fight for their rights. We tried in war times, why not in relative peace?

        Peace!

        • saay7

          Selamat Peace!

          People’s uprising? With the same forces that were rounding up under age kids? Ok that’s one approach. And if that is your strategy, it’s not going to happen by cursing Weyane and the opposition but working for it, no?

          I think my approach is different: for the dormant PFDJ to rise against Isaias Afwerki. And for that to happen it needs to be reminded of everything it forgot: and that’s what I am focused on. This “we have peace; let’s all shut up now and let’s not talk about the past” does not serve my strategy well:)

          saay

          • Peace!

            HI saay,

            It could be uprising or other effective approach evolved from within change agents perhaps the people inside the country. As for cursing weyane, that’s totally insignificant although I wish you have the same advice for Eritreans eulogizing Yohanns, Meles, Bekila, Minilik, Haileselassie, and others.

            Eritreans for inclusive change face challenges on multiple fronts under PFDJ and within Oppositions camp.

            Peace!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Saay,

            I am sure AT are overburdened to moderate this forum to make it a learning medium for Eritreans and Ethiopians. But when I see destructors and abusers behind pen names, I wish awate had resources to make the following program.

            a) A “monitoring program” for the on going debates focusing on
            Issues than running after personalities.
            b) ” I-stop program” for screening destructors and abusers for the
            service you are rendering to give us a “resourceful website” and
            a “platform for debates” on our difference. I wish to see such kind
            of programs for our University.

      • Tesfu

        Selam saay
        something come to mind: Can not you fly to Addis , have for interview with Dr.AA about the peace deal with dia.?, not with eritreans, justice seekers.You might get good answers to all questions. Is, not worth of trying? have you thought about it
        too much stress and hassle!. We will count on you. what are the chances?

        • saay7

          Tesfu:

          But I have no questions at all for PM Abiye. None. He is doing exactly what he thinks is in the best interest of Ethiopia and he is doing a fine a job at it. In addition, although he didn’t have to, he went out of his way to be sensitive to Eritreans sensibilities by mistranslating our mad kings insults to us. I don’t have even a question about the bear hug of the political leper: he did it for Ethiopia.

          Besides, I hope you are aware I am not a journalist, right?

          saay

          • Tesfu

            Selam saay,
            you are more than journalist to my eyes and your deeds.
            We are not getting any info about the deal. can we receive the envelop and say if it good for him it would great for us.who is then to inform us, eritreans. Nobody dare to ask any question, is not worthy?
            From dia side, you are not gonna get anything, might try the other side if there is opportunity.

  • Simon Kaleab

    george,

    Do you have some kind of deficiency that prevents you from processing information properly?

    I cannot help you, other than suggesting that you reread what I wrote.

  • MS

    Ahlan Now inc.
    Well I enjoyed the humor. I sense Hayat’s wittiness and diction, has the pen name,HA, expired now that preaching wayane is no more sexy?
    By the way, I don’t have a probem with Wayane, the historic TPLF, and I made it amply clear that TPLF belonged to the Tigary people and it was incumbent upon Tigrians to make it compatible with the change engulfing Ethiopia.
    As far as TPLF leadership is concerned, I think Eritreans should never make another mistake. Eritrea should approach TPLF-led Tigray cautiously.
    Look at how Dr. Debrestion put it. He reminded Tigrians of their martyrs in Eritrea but did not bother to remind them that Eritreans too paid heavy price in helping Ethiopian organizations and particularly the TPLF to get rid of the Derg.
    Eelments such as Abaay Xehaye and Aboy SebHat, etc., were lecturing Eritrean youth how TPLF had liberated Eritrea. They produced the likes of Smerr, Bruh MexaAi, Agazian…thanks God, now they should fight for their relevance. Eritrea will make deals with Ethiopia. If Wayane wants to remain relevant, it should apologize to the Eritrean people for effecting years of siege and isolation on them, and then behave. It should understand now that IT HAS SHRUNK INTO ITS PROPER SIZE. I don’t have a problem with the Tigray people, I also argued in several articles that a lasting peace could not be achieved without a peacef between the TPLF and PFDJ and the peoples of Eritrea and Tigray. I’m only against the few TPLF leaders who ransacked Ethiopia and hurt Eritrea badly.

    • Mitiku Melesse

      Hei MS.
      Now it is not the Tigray people creating the problem. The new strategy is how to silence us from exposing tplf atrocities in the name of Tigray people. Woyane knows exactly how different Ethiopian ethnic groups and Eritrean sacrificed to topple Derg. Tplf propaganda on the wining monopolization is only to justify why Tplf has been meddling negatively out side of its mandate.

  • Fanti Ghana

    Selam Now inc.

    Thank you! I have been angry and somewhat depressed for two days, and you made me smile. By the way, were you listening to my conversation with Mahmuday just before you? Most of your phrases sound similar to mine.

  • Mitiku Melesse

    Hei All.
    The mercenary tplf paid for destabilizing East Africa has lost its power house. And we got peace. ኡፎይይይይይይይይይይይ. IGAD will have soon its meeting on the woyane made isolated city Asmara or known by the international peace loving people the world heritage. This time the meeting is not about choking the neighboring land,arming destabilization group, making chaos and making money in the name of peace keeping. Everybody knows this is a criminal act but only tplf and its supporters are not happy and it is not a surprise at all a party which calls itself rebels and earning huge money out of our chaos.

    The next meeting will be in Somalia where our head of states exchange experience on things work or doent work for them. How they cooperate militarily so that no external power install a poison like woyane among us.

    Norway and Sweden have their own differences.Sweden is not a member of NATO but Norway is. But Norway dont recruit oppositions to destabilize Sweden or vis versa. If Norway and Sweden can live in peace why not Eritrea and Ethiopia.

    We leave tplf for Tigrians and make sure it doesnt leave Tigray. We dont want chaos. We want peace.

  • Mitiku Melesse

    Hei Now inc.
    You were not supposed to talk alone if tplf had succeeded in installing in Eritrea the ethnic federal system with all its components.

  • Fanti Ghana

    Selam Abisha,

    To be honest, I won’t bother to defend TPLF vis-a-vis Ethiopian politics because I have my own criticism I need to address first, but I am hoping to see something better in the new leadership.
    In short, what have we learned from TPLF’s mistakes?

    Take this one example: A few weeks ago, the government announced that all prisoners will be released. Most of us applauded. A few days ago, there were riots in 6 prisons, 2 of the prisons were set on fire, and 4 prisoners have died so far.

    Why, because the prisoners demanded to be released because the PM had said so! Ethiopian politics is not a walk in the park to say the least.

    • Selam Fanti Ghana,

      You said , “Ethiopian politics is not a walk in the park”. Indeed. As much as the release of prisoners is concerned, it is about political prisoners and prisoners of conscience, the pm was talking about. Nevertheless, those who are in prison for different crimes will try to exploit the decision. As we learnt, some people who were inside for embezzlement, have already slipped through the fingers of the law.

      The ethiopian government cannot have all prisons wide open so that all types of criminals return to society and do worse things. That exactly is what happened when criminals were released because of shortage of space in prisons. They committed worse crimes than the ones they were imprisoned for in the first place. Think of what took place: murders, rapes, armed bank robbery, anything one can think of. Prisons do not change criminals. Maybe for the worst.

      Therefore, those who were incarcerated unjustly for political and other reasons misusing the anti-terrorist law, are the ones who should be eligible. On the contrary, those who have committed crimes against society should remain behind bars until it is time to be released.

      • Fanti Ghana

        Selam Horizon,

        Exactly. What the PM said and the intent was clear and simple. However, imagine the prisoners heard it second hand and a different version of it such as “the new PM has ordered the release of all prisoners.” Or, the prisoners could simply be feigning confusion.

        The point being that we are at a critical stage in our political landscape such that even the slightest gesture or a single phrase from our leaders, however it is meant, may cause a loss of life.

        PMAA’s political journey for the next few months will not be easy and it will need his at most care in his balancing act.

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Hi Abi,

    Stop this kids type talking. Grow up and understand how politics work. Learn that TPLF is the organization of the tigrian people. It is the organization of their sons and daughters, who sacrificed to liberate Tigray and beyond from the brutal Derg. The memorial of their hero’s are stood in the city of Mekel to remind them when the sacrifice of their sons and daughters are not recognized by the rest of Ethiopians. So stop this childish talk that harms your unity. Stupid talks will affect the bonds that keep you together.

    • Teodros Alem

      Selam aman h
      2 thing, 1, do u know the vast majority of none tigrai ethiopians including derg time armed opposition parties prefer derg than tplf. Do u have any idea about the war( before eprdf control addis) between tplf/eprdf and the people , like in ambo and other cities.

    • Desbele

      ኣይ ኣማኒኤል ፤ ለደርግ ልጆች ጨካኙ ደርግ ብለህ ትጽፋለህ?
      እነ ኣብዮት ደመቀ እና መንግስቱ ድልነሳ እኮ ናቸው
      ክቡር ሓወይ ዝያዳ ኣቃልቦካ ግዳ ኣብ ህዝብና ይኹን

    • Solomon

      Selam Ato Amanuel,

      People like Abi, they don’t care about the Ethiopiain people let alone the Tigrean people. Their only concern is their hate towards TPLF and in extension the Tigray people. They are not satisfied that TPLF and the Tigray people are humiliated, they need to see blood flowing in the streets of Addis Ababa even at the expence of disintegration of Ethiopia.

      PM Abiy is preaching day and night about peace, forgiveness, reconciliation, tolerance, democracy etc but people like you know who are always preaching hate and destruction because they are in safe place and the fire they are funning will not affect them.

      They don’t care about the unity of the people, they only care about the unity of the land mass.

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Solomon,

        Then, they must learn that there is no “unity of the land mass without the unity of the people”. This is a simple premises to the concept and to the relationship of “land, people, and unity.” These stupid people are stuck with “መርየታቸው እንጂ ህዝቡ አይንፈልገውም”, a thing they have learned from their feudal emperor HS against the Eritrean people, all those years in the Quest of our independence.

        • Selam Amanuel Hidrat,

          It is a pity that you continue to use the propaganda slogans manufactured in elf and eplf laboratories in the 60s and 70s: “The emperor wanted the land and not the people, the christian emperor forced muslims to change their religion, eritrea is an ethiopian colony, etc.”

          The first propaganda was to mobilize the eritrean people, the result of which is what we see today, the second you used to get help from arab countries, (you are well informed on this), the third was to discredit ethiopia, etc. Even today your people are proud of their achievements in the ethiopian society you people say kept you second class citizens (a colonized people). Your people were ministers, rich business men, ambassadors, generals, etc. and yet colonized people.

          Now, when ethiopians and eritreans are talking about peace and rapprochement, how come you remembered your old propaganda? Do you think it helps in this age and times?

        • Teodros Alem

          Selam aman h
          Idiots think the land of tigrai belongs to all ethiopians with out knowing the current constitution of ethiopia,
          According to the constitution tigrai land belongs to tigrai, not to other ethiopia. It is the sovereign territory of tigrai. So what u saying above is nothing but as usual nonsense.
          2nd, no body need tigrai land ,

    • Kokhob Selam

      Dear Aman,

      What?
      “Otherwise, there is nothing that could make you live together as one people. If you are not part of the solution cease to act as politician.”

      Is the above your statement? What part does of the mass Abi represents? That is Ethiopian people and it is mass…Are you well? Those days the mass is mixing and this kid is confusing them..which they will turn to him very soon..

      KS,,

  • Berhe Y

    Dear rahwa,

    At least he seem to get it, being a leader is just having a sleepless job:). He said, his ultimum goal is to have true democracy.

    What could possibly be a better ideology in Ethiopia history.

    Abiy losing in free and fair democratic election would be perfectly fine.

    Berhe

  • Berhe Y

    Dear @george,

    Why would I accuse the TPLF when there is no evidence to suggest that? Innocent until proven guilty applies to TPLF as well my friend.

    I think the government should act swiftly and make its finding publicly.

    By the way, what are you going to do when head of TPLF will be heading to Eritrea. May be even IA will go to Mekele.

    I heard wedi Tukul will be heading there soon:).

    Berhe

  • Simon Kaleab

    Selam Tesfu,

    How do you know this “behind my back” story is true?

  • Blink

    Dear Rahawa
    In 1991 people were writing about Dergi and 27 years til now Dergi is known for its cruelty and the only thing people will remember about TPLF will be how racist scavengers , greedy so greedy they invade a country to get Amaerican dollars. You see your grandkids will be shocked to read TPLF cut people’s legs in a horrible way. That I think is not a good history to remember by over 100 million people.

    • Simon Kaleab

      Selam Blink,

      The TPLF, like any other group, can be legitimately criticised for their failings and their errors of judgement. But to say TPLF this, TPLF that, around the clock, ad nauseam is a sign of obsessiveness that borders on irrationality.

      The well established pattern is, at first delegitimize a group of people, then dehumanize them by painting them as sub-human and finally exterminate them. Are you aware where you are heading to? Why are you so bitter?

      By the way, what ‘race’ are the TPLF compared to their opponents?

      • Blink

        Dear Simon
        I have to say the following not because you need a reminder but just to tell my feelings. Many awateforum participants for the past 16 years has been roaring, writing and saying many things squarely about EPLF and ELF (sometimes) to just feel better from TPLF stand point . Where have you been when people were making outlandish lies about these two parties none stop 24/7 ? Hayat , Rahawa , Semere Andom , Amanuel Hidrat ( about EPLF) and others who you and I know has been always fixed to narrate false stories. Now why are you asking? Did you feel bad that TPLF legacy in the majority of Ethiopians is being seen as Negative? Ok Tamang beyene even asked for the past TPLF government to apologize to the Ethiopian people. Simon to tell you the truth I don’t have any bad things to say about the Tigrians but their organization has been a cancerous thing for many people in the horn Africa at large and the things I write about them in this forum is just the smallest part. The horror being told by Oromo , Somalians , Amharans , and many others is simply beyond your words.

        • Simon Kaleab

          Selam Blink,

          Suppose, as you are saying, I did not respond to the individuals you listed when they were unfairly attacking the EPLF and Isaias. Does it then make your obsessive fixation with the TPLF right? This argument of yours is a logical fallacy.

          But for the record, I have defended the EPLF and Isaias and criticised the motives of the G-15. For this, I have been called many names. You may confirm this from Hayat, Semere A. and Amanuel H.

          • Blink

            Dear Simon
            Well ,one reason for this can be because of the people who are resisting the peace initiative between the two countries are inside TPLF and some bloody Eritreans . once the current push up comes to end it will not be as of now because many people are writing books about TPLF crimes and these books will be selling inside Ethiopia, Amazon and other windows and what you see on Facebook, YouTube is just the beginning for the bigger project. Now I am not fixated in to TPLF ( well as I understood) . This exposing TPLF crimes or dehumanising as you call it will go on with much bigger media news and great media minds . I can tell you the things we say about them in this forum is just the tip of the iceberg of the larger part. But if you wanted me to stop writing about TPLF for any good reason!!! Pls tell me why I have to.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Blink,

            As I said before, you have the right to criticise TPLF’s failings. But this criticism should be balanced and in context. You need to show their successes as well as their failings.

            Ethiopia had always been ruled by dictators. The Amhara-Oromo alliance that ruled Ethiopia for hundred of years were not loving and kissing, they had their fair share of crimes.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Blink,

          You keep repeating day in day out that I have said lies about EPLF? Could you please tell me the lies I have said about EPLF?

          • Blink

            Dear Amanuel Hidrat
            I have to check who distributed smerr1 lies by the name of Foro the weyanay on Facebook. If I dig your comments in this forum I certain you will try to bring excuses so no need.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Blink,

            I told you about the “Foro issue” that friends who follow paltak sent to me to listen to it. I am not a paltalk person. And still you are accusing by it. I don’t participate in any other than in this forum. If you have any from my comment or articles that I have said lies about EPLF, bring them up.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Amanuel,

            What will this toothless guy bring as evidence ? Nothing….

            KS,,

  • Abraham H.

    Dear Rahwa, do you think the EPRDF will survive in its current form with four member parties in the coming months? Facts on the ground seem to show there is a serious splitt between some member parties of EPRDF and the TPLF. I’m really thinking what will happen if the EPRDF breaks up; does the federal government have a plan B? Is there any efforts to reform the electoral laws so that those parties and groups that felt they where excluded could participate? I think Ethiopia finds itself in a very serious cross road at this time; the security situation doesn’t look good with assassinations, ethnic violences, and terrorist acts. As if things are not complicated enough, the Lema/Abiy group is also exacerbating the situation by engaging/conspiring with the known Eritrean criminal Isayas Afwerqi.
    It is my opinion that Ethiopia is heading towards uncharted territories, may wisdom prevail.

    • Ismail AA

      Dear Abraham,

      Perhaps insightful Ethiopian participants in this forum are qualified to throw some light on the crucial questions you have raised. The message from Tigrai (TPLF) today has added to the topicality of the concern. The statement read by Dr. Debretsion at the Mekele stadium today, and which the audience demanded its reiteration with loud voice was “ዘሎና ዕድል ወይ ተኸባቢርካ ብማዕረ ምንባር ወይ ምብትታን እዩ”. This is not mean preposition that can be ignored as oratory rhetoric.

      Coming from a key component of the EPRDF the message must have resonated across the nation; it even did across the Mereb if one would give credence to what senior regime advocates in this forum have exchanged on the matter. The picture could become clearer at the much awaited central committee meeting some weeks down the road. Dr. Abij’s cabinet will have to report back on performances within the mandate of the EPRDF program entrusted to him. Selling all that are being unimpededly promised to the central committee could be formidable task for the Prime Minister. Some of the issues encroach into constitutional matters such as the removal of the star from the flag.

      The first casualty in this could be the harmony of the OPDO because there are forces whose voices it may not be able to ignore. The OLF is now a force to reckon with, beside other federalist groups such as that of Merara Guidina who have their say and place in the Oromia constituency.

      One may rule out ANDM and groups like Lemma Megersa could give the PM a voting majority. But the question is whether this will add up to safeguard the EPRDF as a winning entity in the next election. The stakes of the southern nations and nationalities component may calibrate with that of the TPLF than ANDM and whoever may align with it from the OPDO. I believe it will interesting sober assessment from our Ethiopian brothers: gash Amde did you hear me?

      • Amde

        Selam Gash Ismael,

        I share the concern of a Dr. Abiy electoral path to victory. He and his message has huge political capital, but the path of translating that capital into parliamentary power is uncertain. EPRDF as a whole has a brand that is wrecked and will be difficult to win with in a free election. So we will see how it goes. It points again to the structural weaknesses of the system.

        I found the Dr. Debretsion read statement quite despicable actually. It would be understandable if he had articulated it as “If we are disrespected we will use our constitutional right to exit.” But what he said is “Unless we are respected our option is መበታተን።” This is an arsonist’s demand. According to the rules in place, Tigray CAN technically leave the federation however loony the idea is. It would make things more difficult in Ethiopia, but it is a survivable event. But to promise disintegration of the rest of the 97mln people is disgusting.

        Amde

        • Fanti Ghana

          Selamat Sir Amde,

          I think you misread what he meant by
          “ዘለና ዕድል ወይ ተኸባቢርካ ብማዕረ ምንባር ወይ ምብትታን እዩ”

          “ያለን ዕድል ወይም ተከባብረን በእኩልነት መኖር ወይም መበታተን ነው”

          Since the context was ሕገ መንግስቱ ከተጣሰና የብሄር ብሄረ ሰቦች መብት ካልተጠበቀ፣ he is predicating possible outcome and not neessarily an action he would take.

          This statement is not new. Many before him and non-TPLF EPRDFites have been saying it for years. “ተከባብረን በእኩልነት የማንኖር ከሆነ ዉጤቱ መበታተን ይሆናል.”

          Now it is your turn to defend. I had my first frustrating moment from PM Abiy’s speech.

          Someone raised a question regarding a talk people not being consulted about the border/peace negotiation and he simply dismissed it with “የመንደር ፖለቲካ ነው.” I was not expecting that from someone I believe is so dedicated to peace, love, and forgiveness.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Fanti Ghana,

            He said “የመንደር ፖለቲካ ነው” to his colleague who is in the coalition of EPRDF? That is a bad message that doesn’t help to the unity of EPRDF? I think his message of “love and peace” will not last long. I think he has to change his slogan to “respect and compromise” the appropriate language in politics. But..But, even if he was asked about it, it would have been wiser to leave it, by saying it is okay we will discuss it in the EPRDF meeting.

          • saay7

            Emma:

            No he didn’t say it to EPRDF but to Ethiopian oppo and intellectuals in DC.

            Do me a favor? I think an epic debate is about to open between Fanti and Amde on substantial issue. Let’s see what they have to say about it:

            (1) words of Tigray governor in Mekele. (The people loved that part so much they demanded that it be repeated);

            (2) words of Ethio PM in the US.

            saay

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Saay,

            Okay, let us see how it will go. But, even if it was for the Ethiopian oppo and intellectuals in DC, it hits home already. It doesn’t make any difference, it is a bad message by a proponent of peace.

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selamat Saay,

            It will be very short. I am not ‘Gheteb and he is not Saay!

          • Saleh Johar

            Kbur Fanti,
            Such is our state of affairs that you are insulted. I am very sorry to witness that. But just move on my dear. Move on.

          • Ismail AA

            Hayak Allah saay7,

            Ready and watchful eyes. You’re warning the our time Adi Halo “Rip van Winkle” loyal crowds to pause a bit and check whether they are consuming themselves in premature celebration. The witty among them should heel and thank you.

          • David Samson

            Selamat SAAY,

            If our Ethio’s heavyweights need a break.
            https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/44912045

          • Amde

            Hi Saay,

            I just saw this post..and now i understand Fanti’s caution and your “whimper” comment.

            I think at over 1000 comments this article has become unwieldy as an anchor for discussons. May i suggest a fresh artickle – very short – using the Abiy comments you highlighted and your additional comments as a starting point?

            Many thanks.

            Amde

          • Selam Fanti Ghana,

            (Sorry for intruding).
            If we are talking about the same topic vis-a-vis, what PMAA said about demarcation and the irob people, and their fear to be divided between two countries, i too was scratching my head when i heard pm Abiy say more or less that the federal government is not going to ask for the opinion of the local people. He brought as an example the declaration of war when ethiopia was invaded by shabia. He said to the effect ‘we were told to fight and we did. We did not ask the government for explanation’. In addition, at one point he mentioned parliament, not really directly.

            I had to listen to his words for a second time, and the conclusion i drew was: the irob people have their representatives in the federal government where decision will be taken – the decision will be presented to parliament – if it is endorsed – what is there to talk about at an individual or community level. That i think is what happened when war was declared.

            In addition, he said that demarcation is secondary and they have not talked about it, because people to people relations have priority. I see some logic in that. Nevertheless, it seems that demarcation still is the hot potato they want to cool down before they try to handle it.

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selamat Horizon,

            Please Horizon, you are always welcome to intrude especially, when I am addressing Amde!

            I am in a similar position as you. I even thought about him being too tired. He haven’t stopped flying, talking, answering complex questions for several days in a raw.

            During all that time, he is trying to balance a host of topics while addressing several groups with differing outlook and expectations. I also thought some of the too-early-to-ask-questions were putting him in an awkward position too. It is extremely exhausting.

            With that said, I was expecting him to reply to the “people” question with something like “of course, we will talk with the people. Ultimately it is all about the people isn’t it” or something better.

          • Amde

            Selam Dottore Fanti,

            Very well. I think the context is important. It would be a benign nothingburger if the Chairman of the Kembata People’s Patty said it, quite another when it is a just deposed sulking group with the means to take consequential action. To be honest, I find TPLF statements in this interregnum period quite tone deaf.

            On the Irob statement, I agree with you. The injustice on the Irob is one of the reasons for why I was against Algiers in general, and the “final and binding” crowd in particular. PM Abiy was artless in his response and probably made issues worse.

            Amde

            Amde

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selamat Sir Amde,

            I was about to jump because you made my evening, but I had to sit down quickly because it also meant ruining Saay’s. Life is hard!

          • Amde

            Hi Fanti,

            Why woukd it ruin Saay’s evening? He never struck me as being dogmatic on this issue. I think the Awate team in fact came out in support of implementing Algiers with the principle of little to no civilian disruption. To me that practically translates to letting the people decide where the Algiers decision crates a humanitarian/civilian hardship.

            Amde

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selam Amdachin,

            ¡Ay ay ay! This means you missed a couple of posts. He was expecting a huge debate between us and I had told him that it will be short and sweet. I was in my clever mode and I added “I am not ‘Gheteb and he (that is you) is not Saay.”

            Never mind; go back to sleep.

          • saay7

            Fantiness:

            In with a bang, out with a whimper: that’s it? It is the weekend so I guess I will have to post the video so the rest of the class can break it down for you two:

            https://youtu.be/Ckda46ImMQ0

            saay

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selamat Saay,

            There are too many links to pieces of the speech depending on what people want to emphasize, but this link includes, actually starts with the topic at hand.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLRixdjJJ5A

            by the way, the more I listen to the speech the less important the phrase is becoming. It just seemed unnecessary addition to his otherwise decent reply. As I was saying to Horizon, it was a tough week physically and emotionally, and I have already forgiven him.

          • saay7

            Fanti Ghana:

            Link doesn’t take to specific video but a page. Also if you have connections at Addis Times, Addis Konjo, Tenadam, etc could you tell them to describe every Abiy video with “ኣስገራሚ”? I just don’t think they use that word enough.

            saay

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selam Saay,

            Hmm! I rechecked, clicked, and it seems to work. Let’s see if others also fail or succeed.

            In the meantime, see if you can copy and paste between the angle brackets.

            Wow! I don’t know why it is adding quotes in the middle of the address, but you can edit it.

          • Tedla

            Selam Fanti,

            Can you say a little bit about Debretsion’s statement, “… ተከባብረን በእኩልነት መኖር ወይም መበታተን ነው”? What does “ተከባብሮ መኖር” mean in this context?

            – Was he alluding to the ethnic conflict so prevalent across the country?

            – Or was it a reference to the Constitution not being respected in freeing prisoners, for example, or trivialities such as flying legal/illegal flags?

            – Or items that were occasionally floated by some such as a possible revision of the political/administrative makeup of the country so that states are no more strictly ethno-linguistic (which is exclusive and alienating), but instead redraw them as multi-cultural and inclusive so they are reflective of the whole?

            I’m pretty sure it’s none of the above as I don’t see any one of them to be so extreme for him to consider the secession clause. Which leads me to a related question: Whatever is the reason for his statement, do you think his worries are so serious to warrant separation? Or was he simply throwing something to his constituency as a show of strength?

            Thanks

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selam Kibur Tedla,

            I was just wrapping up the day, and you asked excellent questions that need a decent reply. I will scribble what I think tomorrow instead of this post. Thank you.

        • Ismail AA

          Selam gashe Amde,

          Thanks for your unmissable and quick response to questions people like me pose. Moreover, I am glad the point I raised drew lively and useful exchanges from various angels. Our resident and quiet thinker, Fanti, jumped in to put things in clear context (clearing language ambiguity) and set the stage for germane discussion. Thank you dear Fanti. Besides, I must add that several have added inputs that helped to make the discussion more interesting.

          On the approaching electoral contest (hope will be peaceful and within constitutional boundaries), the battle lines will be drawn on options the OPDO under Abij-Lemma alliance are going to set for themselves. Their calculations will determine whether their chance to win would be served by running on re-harmonized federalist EPRDF ticket that includes the TPLF, or abandoning it for Etiopia-winet centered platform that may garner votes in ANDM controlled areas. Opting for the latter will mean an EPRDF in disarray, and re-alignment of forces would, under current circumstance, an uphill endeavor.

          Its ramification could broad be wider in affecting the distribution of votes in the hitherto strong EPRDF strongholds the southern peoples component propped by non-members such Somalis and the Afar peoples. If this scenario will take the stage, I tend to think the current EPRDF components could be the losers in favor of new forces such the OLF whose voting constituency has not yet been gauged. Add to this the smaller civic and urban dwellers oriented formations such as G-7 and the federalist elitist Oromo groups. The result of the election would then become politically diverse parliament, and make formation of coalition government cumbersome and extremely contentious which the condition may not afford.

          Anyway, clues are anticipated on how Dr. Abij and his team will answer the insistent demands of changing or amending the current electoral law, and how the EPRDF powerhouse will deal with it. This could produce the straw that could break or mend the unity of the EPRDF. Deadlock on this issue would mean crisis while agreement would mean back to the drawing board where handling pertaining clauses in the constitution will matter. The first thing that could happen is postponing the election or those who could impose it by relying on the power of the state. Once this scenario sees the light of the day, people the disadvantaged will start asking how the new political-governance will be different from TPLF dominated old one.

    • Selam Abraham H.,

      Let me ask this, does the end of the eprdf mean the end of ethiopia? I do not see why it should be. Parties come and go everywhere all over the world. Why should it be any different in ethiopia?

      If these coalition parties become independent, each one of them is going to get votes according to their constituencies: tplf+ 6%, andm+ 25%, opdo+ 40%, etc. (+ newcomers), and their political power at the center will be according to their parliamentary seats. In this case proportional representation in parliament and a coalition government which comprises the first party and one (or two) other party is the most likely outcome. In actual fact an eprdf breakup will help the small ethnic parties to acquire an independent representation without eprdf influence.

      We can understand where this leaves some parties who do not want to put up for less power. Whether they like it or not ethiopian social groups are interdependent, and they will be forced to find a formula of one sort or other. If there are groups who want to blackmail with secession, let them try and see its merits. It is easily said than done, Only a border does not make a real country.

      As always the danger for ethiopia is exaggerated. Many countries in the world are in a much worse security situation than ethiopia, and yet they continue to exist. Why should it be so difficult for ethiopia?

      Team Lemma want to bring peace to ethiopia and eritrea, and if the only candidate eritrea can provide for negotiation is a dictator, they cannot help it but accept. It is up to eritreans to come up with a better candidate for negotiation.

      • Abraham H.

        Selam Horizon, I’m not saying the breakup of EPRDF means the end of Ethiopia. But I’m of the opinion that the current ethiopian situation is such that the federation is a reflection of the EPRDF system. So when the eprdf ceases to exist as we knew it in the last 27 years, then a serious situation of power vaccum may arise which could give rise to more instability and insecurity. So what I’m saying is that the current gov needs to hammer out plan B in order to take the country to the next phase where the politics of the country would be completely different from today.
        Btw, I would be very surprised if at the beginning of next year, i.e. in four months time, the EPRDF survives in its current form.

        • Selam Abraham H.,

          For the eprdf sticking together is a matter of survival, especially now that there will be new parties that are coming to the scene and will encroach on their constituencies, and thus decrease their parliamentary seats.

          If you have listened to what PMAA said in his discussions in the usa with the opposition and ethiopian intellectuals, he stressed that they (meaning the eprdf and especially the tplf) worked hard over the last 40-50 yrs to divide ethiopians and planted deep the narrow ethnic sentiment and ethnic federalism, and therefore, it is not an easy matter to change the system overnight, and he hinted that eprdf will continue as it is. The breakup of the eprdf will bring such a lose that there is the possibility that if independent, some parties may not even be able to enter parliament. Therefore, they will stick together to remain relevant.

          If the eprdf is to divorce, of course, they cannot have plan B together. The thing that would follow is to go to election as independent parties. Until the new government is formed, the incumbent government will function as a transitional government, and when the new government is sworn in, it will assume power and life will be as usual. We are not going to see any major crisis.

  • Amde

    Abiti

    ዘረባ እንጅሩ.
    ደርፍታት በሽ ነው።

    ኬፍ…

  • Hayat Adem

    Greetings all,
    PM Abiy and the Ethiopian people are not eye to eye so vividly on EngSimegnew. Ethiopians at home are totally gripped by the grief of the sudden loss of their true hero, Eng Simegn. It is reported that even opposition parties have paid a desrving tribute to their fallen hero. They all, in unison, said: This country is betrayed; such a patriot , such a hero must not paid back with his death.” People who came out to demonistrate in Meqele stadium honored the fallen Engineer in the utmost highest regard by echoing “Qissen Engineer!”
    PM Abiy is didn’t seem to have bothered himself with situation. At the Convention Center today, he has been seen with a ceremonial mood from his dress to his nonverbal expressions.
    PM Abiy didn’t yet clearly condemn the act and the culprits. Yesterday, he mentioned the crime tangentially by saying Ethiopia has become a place where a person is killed in daylight at Mesqel square. Today, he told us this: “recently, a person called Eng Simegnew who works for his country Ethiopia was found dead for a reason that is not known yet. It is vwry painful to become a leader of a country of such situation.”
    Watch this guy, Ethiopia! Watch carefully!

    • Peace!

      Hi Hayat,

      The people of Tigray are calling for peace. That’s a big deal and should be your topic for the day.

      And Somalia president is in Eritrea, I hope you won’t accuse him for siding with DIA after Meles invaded and bombed his country for $$$$$.

      Peace!

      • Hayat Adem

        Dear Peace Abi Seb (borrowing it from another Abi Seb),
        I never knew DIA hated Tplf so much. So much so that he had to hand over Eritrea and Eritreans to get at Tplf.

        • Peace!

          Hi Hayata,

          I see no reason for panic trust me the country is not going anywhere although that’s not what I wish my younger brothers to worry about. East Africa is resourceful enough for all its people if we can learn to live together peacefully. You are a perfect candidate for promoting Pan-Africanism.

          Peace!

          • Hayat Adem

            Yes Peace,
            “If we can learn to live together peacefully…”

        • Kokhob Selam

          Dear Hayat,

          What is up !!! Look at those PFDJ !!

          KS,,

      • Mitiku Melesse

        Hei, peace.
        tplfites are confused. For the last 20 years they were sucking Ethiopians wealth giving excuse Tigray couldnt develop due to the war. When the peace deal was sealed they were shocked and say families would be separated meaning if the peace sealed then how could we keep on sucking Ethiopia.

        Their tigray first policy have killed hundred thousands, forced millions to flee their homes but they tell us 20 or so families shall not be separated unless you give us Assab to sck Ethiopia when we get peace with Ethiopia. These kind of lumpen (ዱርዬ) used to lead Ethiopia.

    • Teodros Alem

      Selam hayat
      Nobody know how exactly reason of his death, since this gred dam progress was a lie and since gred was main source of corruption for day light Haynes , it could be he killed himself up to run way from credibility of the new administrate and guilt. So let us just wait untill we know how he died.
      By the way since when u guys started to worry about none tigrai life and ethiopia?

      • Hayat Adem

        Hi Teodros,
        What are you trying to say in your last sentences? And why are you contradicting yourself?

        • Teodros Alem

          Selam ms hayat
          When police arrived at the scene, his car Windows and doors was lucked and the engine was on and police had to break the window in order to open the car.and found a gun next to him.
          The last sentence was, how come he become loved by u guys( i have seen tg tv yesterday)from all 100 m(- u tigrai)ethiopians?

    • Mitiku Melesse

      Hei Hayat.
      Yes they are. Tplf could explode the dam not to see their humiliation in USA for the whole world to see. But that was the only maximum blow they could make to turn attention. When all Ethiopians were showing how happy they were on the peace agreement live, the tigrinas were celebrating the peace call now exactly when the whole Ethiopians were enjoying already the fruits of the peace agreement.

      ሊበሉን ነበር ሊበሉን ነበር ባንተባበር.

  • Selam rahwa,

    Fortunately PMAA does not have ‘loyal and principled members who share the same vision and ideology’, as you said, because that is how dictators come to power on the back of fanatic followers. Tplf and pfdj dictatorships are good examples. They rode on the back of blind zealots and devotees, whom they later enslaved. Democracy needs free citizens who are ready to criticize and even deny their support, whenever they feel they are not satisfied with a leader.

    PMAA is going to the coming elections representing the eprdf, because he is the head of the eprdf party. Eprdf remains a coalition of four parties, at least for the time being. The only way he will lose the coming elections is either if he has no more the support of his party and somebody else is chosen in his place by the executive council, or the eprdf ceases to exist as a coalition party.

    The odds are most probably he is going to be the next pm as well. His message to the different opposition parties during his visit to the usa was that, the eprdf is already preparing itself for the next elections, and the opposition should gather together and come as a united party and not as scattered groups. Therefore, it is going to be the eprdf against the rest.

  • Kokhob Selam

    Dear Abo.

    Now this is to-much..Man!!! I ready to die since Derg days..Do you remember, when young guys die in Gonder ,,,where were you at that time?

    KS,,

  • Simon Kaleab

    Selam rahwa,

    This Mitiku character and his associates are low ranking operatives of the criminal Derg.

    In these chaotic times, screaming all day and night against the TPLF has more than a therapeutic value.

  • Mitiku Melesse

    Hei, Rahwa.
    You know parasites dont mean to hurt us. They just simply eat us alive just to survive. They dont know they die when the host they are eating him alive is dead. But we human beings are better than animals. If the parasite is human then we teach him how to survive eating by producing his own food. For the parasite it feels unfair in the beginning but a 100 years from now when some one reads the story they will thank us how we change them from parasite to an independent food producer human being.

    • rahwa

      Hi Mitiku,
      Keep writing….I love it.

  • Kokhob Selam

    Hawna Abi,

    Just some day more..You will all agree what is going on is not successful journey.Just wait and see..

    KS,,

  • Kokhob Selam

    Hawna Abi,

    Yo

  • Peace!

    Hi Rahwa,

    Did you watch the speech today? ጥርስህ ሲወላልቅ የምቀርህ ምላስ ብቻ ስለሚሆን ያለህ ብቸኛ ኣማራጭ በባዶ ሜዳ መጮህ ብቻ ነው. Did you say movers and shakers? For what, for betrayal?

    Please leave the Tigray people alone.

    Peace!

  • Teodros Alem

    Selam rahwa
    Don’t get excited, how do u know he is not tplf himself? Read carefully what all day and night long what he wrote , every little bet of him shows he is another pretender opposition like abi, horizon kim, blink and others in this forum and beyond.
    I know life in Norway is boring and freezing cold but still he is tplf himself trying to tell tplf r unfairly victimized.

    • Blink

      Dear Teodrose
      How wired are you ? Seriously how is that even possible for you think like that # weird

  • Haile S.

    ሰላም ኣቢ፡
    ዕድር ተሳስተው ስለገቡ እንጂ፡ በናንተ የሰላም ጠበል የተረሱ ኣይመስለኝም።

  • Mitiku Melesse

    Hei, all.
    Opposing tplf in Ethiopia is so trivial. Here i like the challenge because i love to see those who hide under Eritrean mask sweating to be cautious how they support without risking their true identity. That is the nature of tplf. It is not easy life at all.

    Tplf stock exchange is in shock. The reason is the following tplf brands suddenly has lost all their customers.
    1) NPNW between Ethiopia and Eritrea
    2) How to be rich over night using Ethnic poison for non-tigrians in Ethiopia
    3) Clan poison for Somalians
    4) Enmity between Somalian and Eritrean government
    5) Peace keeping for destabilizing South Sudan
    6) Corruption for Ethiopians hyenas
    7) Politician priests for Orthodox and Muslim Ethiopians and Eritreans

    The economical adviser of tplf has said that they will start selling their product for free to stimulate the market. But the east African leader have said unanimously that it is against our free market policy when an economical strong tplf sales its product for free. tplf gave warning to Ethiopia that it will separate Tigray if Ethiopia dont encourage people to by its products.

  • Mitiku Melesse

    Hei, All.
    Another heavy punch against the corrupt racist one ethnic first tplf from our PM:
    As long as there is terror anti-terror law wont be abolished, what will be abolished is using the anti terror law to terrorize peaceful people and throw them in jail…

    Why has tplf use the anti-terror law to silence the non-tigrians? It is its nature. Inferiority complex dictates tplf to believe in itself as it is superior to all. Since the fact on the ground doesn’t support its superiority it has to cheat,lie, sabotage, corrupt.

  • Peace!

    Hi all & happy Saturday,

    “ዲክታቶርያዊ ስትዓት ኣብ ውሽጢ Eritrea እዩ ዘሎ ኣብ ቅሽጢ Eritrea ካኣ ክወድቕ ኣለዎ; ኣብ ውሽጢ Eritrea ክውድቕ ዝኽእል ቀለቤት ናይቲ ብደገ ዝምራሕ ተቓውሞን ኣብ ውሽጢ እቲ ስርዓት ተስዊሩ ዘሎ ተቓውሞን ድልዱል ምትእስሳር ክፈጥር ክኽእል ኣለዎ”

    “እቲ ህዝቢ ማእከላዊ ሓይሊ እዩ ውሽጢ Eritrea ካኣ እቲ ቀንዲ ዓውዲ ናይ ተቓውሞ ክንገብሮ ክንክእል ኣለና”

    “ኣብ ውሽጢ Eritrea ዘየንጸባርቕ ተቅቓውሞ ኣብ ትሕቲ ምልክት ናይ ሕቶ ክኣቱ ናይ ግድን እዩ”

    ስውእ ስዪም ዑቕባሚካኢል (R.I.P.)
    https://youtu.be/kJ0ow6Ob1TE

    A leader with powerful PURPOSE & DIRECTION. Why we failed to listen to him?

    Peace!

    • Ismail AA

      Selam Peace,

      Thank you for making the link available. It’s a pity no attention is paid to great ideas when time mattered but consider them virtues to sooth our regret for missed opportunities. May Seyoum and many more like him whom we miss them when we need them most rest in peace.

      • Peace!

        Hala Habibna,

        I agree with everything you said. I watched the video this morning he turned my head around. My he rest in peace.

        Peace!

        • Kokhob Selam

          Yes Peace,

          Now you came the point. That man was great man,, among the best great fighters.,

          KS,,

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Peace,

      Thank you for the clip. A great patriot, a symbol of nationalism, a great speech of a great orator. He is one of our heroes who can not land his foot on free Eritrea -to a country he gave everything to it,from his youth age till the day he left us. RIP a Patriot, greatly missed.

  • Ismail AA

    Selam @george,

    Sorry! I would have liked to grace your comments with response as I usually do; but I couldn’t get what you wanted to say. Anyway, I don’t own tplf. Thanks anyway.

  • Saleh Johar

    Hi Abi
    Okay. I read it but I do not know what to say. But your accusation is nothing new, I live with it. If you think voodo should not be addressed, it’s your view. Please slow down. Calm is good.

  • Selam All,

    Here is the new pm of ethiopia, who seems to have charmed most ethiopian political groups except the very few, accepted by both main religions as a messenger of peace, some prominent ethiopians in the diaspora are proud to call him “my pm”, the world economic and political community is ready to work with him, ethiopia is gradually gaining her rightful place in the world, in the horn, and in africa in general, etc.

    Is it the time ethiopians should worry, or a time to be hopeful? Don’t you believe that the doomsayers will finally be disproved?

    Those who believe that ethiopia’s success is their utter failure, those cowards who kill prominent ethiopians, throw bombs into a crowd, smuggle money out of this poor country, and many whose turn it will be to flee the country to avoid the law that is coming after them, etc, will fight tooth and nail, but they are not going to win, because PMAA seems to be a gifted personality, and he has with him the majority of the ethiopian people who are ready for change.

    • Kokhob Selam

      Dear Horizon,

      With all due respect to you I really don’t know if this man can be for peace and development to our sisterly nation and its people…. I think he is not the right person..

      Till today what he is managing is fine ,,,,when you see it from one angle, he is moving fast toward peace but then where is that peace ??? Inside the country people are die as you can witness it..Yesterday the great man engineer has passed and who killed him is unknown..More are contradictions are developing. And you are going to witness more in near future,

      What I am thinking is, that as our friend (Abi) use to say it someone from the back are playing it…thick game..Isn’t it?

      KS,,

      • Mitiku Melesse

        Hei, Kokhob.
        The tplfites couldnt sustain the heat so you have to get rid of the Eritrean mask.

        • Kokhob Selam

          Dear Mitiku Melesse,

          Very soon I will convert to Ethiopian-ism,,Soon ..Don’t you know that I am already an Ethiopian and I have Ethiopians sisters and brothers ?

          I already say it before in this site and I am saying it today..

          KS,,

      • Dear K.S.,
        It is said that one swallow doesn’t make a summer. If the eritrean side wants peace and is ready for it, peace will come. PMAA alone cannot make a miracle.

        If there are enemies within and outside ethiopia, who are ready to hijack peace by killing individuals, throwing bombs into a crowd, etc, they could be a stumbling block for peace and delay it, nevertheless, it does not necessarily mean that peace is not going to come as long as the majority of ethiopians are for peace.

        • Kokhob Selam

          Dear Horizon,

          I think Eritrean people aren’t ready now ..I think brother Horizon you better revise your stand in the past and make your principle, Peace is going to be found within first then with others,,,that is what most of think her..Don’t believe otherwise ,,I think Eritrean people including me required to see prisoners release from fox holes and that constitution be our legal. Procedure, system and human rights etc..

          What, do you think about your leader Dr, Abiy? I think what he is doing most of it isn’t practical ,,How in the hell, will make peace now with all differences you Ethiopians have? I don’t think that is practical..

          KS,,

          • Blink

            Dear KS
            Who are these you think are Eritreans and are not ready for peace ? Do you think Eritreans lose sleep to make some fringe groups here and there ? Eritreans are these inside Eritrea and they don’t really bother to guess what we say here. You think as if all Eritreans see what you see , no ,they see something you don’t and try to represent only these who are in line with you .

      • Blink

        Dear KS
        Who do you think acquired more thick game skills in the past 27 years of yeken jiboch ruling ? I mean ,how could Abiy remove all the stains imprint in the Ethiopian security system ? He needs more time and I hope he wins in the 2020 with the full support of team lema and Gedu and partner himself with new opposition parties to heal the wound. TPLF has been trying to put havoc inside his administration yet failed , if the Erob , Badme people to people is fading as we speak . TPLF power in the central government will be just like small business thing and with that Eritrea will be going all the way to be democratic but without the lunatics who try to destroy Eritrea with the help of weyane. Abay- Tigray plan is gone and it will never comeback. We know also TPLF guards were the financial backbone of Agazian movement and we saw their flag today clapping to Debrestion. How is Agazian flag different from old Ethiopian flag . Yes we know it was a warning to Abiy but who is the end game ?

    • Aligaz G

      Dear Horizon,

      PM AA inherited a weak economy burdened with excessive foreign debt and seems intent on taking on even more loans. The currency crunch has reached record lows and stated programme of rapidly opening up of the economy must be handled carefully.

      On the other hand the geopolitical situation seems to be improving but the jury is still out on the reliability of the US – KSA – UAE- Israel and now Eritrea axis as allies one can depend on. We should also wait and see the new China policy closely.

      Domestic politics are in turmoil. All stake holders are aggresively pushing their own agenda. However PM AA enjoys unprecedented massive popular support but this should not be taken to mean democracy reigns.

      Strong moves towards democratization, respect for human rights and an independent judiciary need to be supported with further new laws. Civic societies and other social, religous, labor and professional associations should be rebuilt and allowed to function fully free from interference.

      In summary we can be cautiously hopeful about the future (against all odds) while noting we are still in a period of transition and consolidation.

      What has really changed is the fatalistic absolutely negative psychology pervasive in the country prior to the arrival of Abiy and Friends.

      So for now all we can say is the stage is being readied for a massive peaceful democratic renewal but don’t forget we were at this stage in 1974 and 1991 and failed miserably.

      Inshallah

      • Ismail AA

        Selam Aligaz,

        Fair assessment.

      • Mitiku Melesse

        Hei, Aligaz.
        It is more like 1974 rather than 1991. In 1991 except Tigray and Eritreans the rest considered the gorillas as occupying force and the people were terrified. It is more like 1974, the majority were happy, people were demonstrating for showing thier support, minority like the king’s family, the land lords who owned the majority of the wealth just like the woyae’s now.

        The difference now is that the level of education, experience of our people is much much better now. The hard currency revives soon because the criminal racist tplf can not borrow as much as it wants in the name of us and abuse the money for one ethnic supremacy.

        My fear is that how the new government can cooperate with an economy entirely dependent of corruption including what the corrupt one ethnic monopolist which controlled the majority of wealth. The economy of this corrupt empire is based on pumping billion dollars borrowed by the name of Ethiopians. When the government stops this illegal transaction there will be a consequence. So here one has to learn from derg’s mistake.

      • Selam Aligaz G.,

        Thanks a lot for your important input.

        I think that 1974 and 1991 were different times from 2018 in many ways. In 1974 it was transition from a backward feudal system to an authoritarian communist system. The actors did not seem to know much about it in practice, except the views they gathered by reading marxist-leninist literature, and the orders they received from the soviet union. It was the age of anti-imperialism and infatuation of the young and the educated with the marxist-leninist ideology.
        Communism was deposed in ethiopia in 1991 and about two years earlier in the soviet union. It was a system condemned to die and not to bring democracy and prosperity.

        Ethiopia was again at a cross-road in 1991, when gun-toting liberation fronts, who did not believe in the entity of the country itself, ascended to power, and under this condition, there was no way democracy could come out of the barrel of a gun.

        Ethiopia lived the 3 decades of authoritarianism until 2018 and pm Abiy came to the scene.

        Ethiopia is now at a different stage and times with a vast experience achieved from the past and here is a person who seems to be free of the baggage his predecessors carried, and logically the only thing he can do is to bet on democracy and further development, and aim to achieve both, and not to return to the defunct system before he came to power.

        Playing the same card tplf/eprdf played is a recipe for failure even an ordinary person is able to understand, let alone the man who had been in the thick and thin of the past ethiopian politics, which he himself repeatedly said was utter failure.

        Therefore, this time it could be about the real thing (democracy and development for the benefit of all), unless it is hijacked by anti-democracy and anti-ethiopian elements within and outside his government and inside and outside the country.

        • Aligaz G

          Dear Horizon,

          I believe 1974 was the first mass fundamental change moment in Ethiopia History but we can now begin to say the propulsive motives that gave birth to this revolution may be losing relevance.

          The events and actors that time and since were so complex and interwoven the changes so vast and jarring we are mostly reduced to an intuitive analysis. And intuitively we can say the opening notes of this perhaps still unfinished chapter were the Neway brothers coup attempt in Addis Abab AND the nascent rebellion in Eritrea notably Woldeab Wodemariam’s exile to Cairo followed by Mahiber Shob’ate then Awate then ELF.

          Seen together these two separate events lead to radicalization movements and moments recombining like DNA strands interwoven in time and space that periodically crstallyzed into liberation fronts and movements. The entirety of the Eritrean Liberation War, The Ethiopian Revolution and the Melesian Era can be defined in this manner. In short all the actors shared DNA and had what can called an incestuous family tree lineage. PIA can be seen as a great uncle of this lineage.

          The beating heart or boiling cauldron of the 1974 Revolution was fed by the three injustices ie land tenure injustice, class warfare and the nationalities question. The feudal system was abolished in 1974 and certain solutions to the nationalities question were enacted in 1991 such as ethnic federal states and the creation of Eritrea as a sovereign state.

          With the appearance of Abiy Ahmed and his much repeated medemer mantra movement in 2018, human rights, democracy and unity have been presented as solutions. TPLF as one of the extant inheritors of the student movement dna strand have complained that PMAA is out of bounds however the dialectic of the revolution of 1974 seems to have run its course and it is now time to broaden the horizon.

          We can summarize by stating that in the 1960s we followed our Eritrean brothers to a singular revolution and now it appears we are leading them in turn to an inclusive democracy. Inshallah

    • welde

      Hi Horizon,
      you see, your last paragraph shows your true character. Getting to power through back door does not make you gallant or fearless warrior or full of wisdom. A guy who kept his true character hidden from his so called colleagues in EPRDF can not be considered a hero or wise. I would have respected him had he aired his political opinions, if he had any, while he was a member of the very organization he is trying to destroy. To tell you frankly i have no respect to moles and infiltrators. I don’t know about you!

      regards,

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Horizon,

      PMAA’s political career is grown in the rank and files of EPRDF. Does he has any kind of history of challenging to the party leaders to reform the political discourse of the EPRDF, before he came to be the prime minister and chief executive of the party, to worship him as a hero sprouted from the complex Ethiopian politics? He was unknown entity to the public to even look him as a leader. Why is this all worshiping him like a savior from havens before he even start to tackle the major political problem of the nation? Can’t you wait until he start to harvest “eminence of leadership” on the crucial problems of the country? I don’t see you like a regular person who cheers on “slogans” as if slogans are a “converted product” on the ground to answer the anxiety of the general population. In fact the nature of your reaction only feeds to the disunity of your social groups – the rainbow of your social make up. If there is something you could learn, learn from the cautions and choices of words (that avoids antagonism) from one of your own, Sir Amde.

      • Berhe Y

        Anta Amanuel Halew,

        Abotatna kmsulu “TeSgibeni kichas ab mogogo kela yiFelTa”.

        I know you know this but every great student doesn’t become great if he stayed with knowledge that’s only thought by his teacher. We learn a lot from our parents, then when we become men / women we become our own person, and in most cases, we do better and our children will do better than us.

        Do you honestly believe that within EPRDF, there was a lot of room for decent, raising opinions, challenging the status without consequences. And who is to say that the PM was NOT just learning the ropes of politics, power, influence, family and a lot of schooling, BA, MSc, MBA, PHD, minister etc, at only 41 years.

        A leader, any leader for that matter, can’t do much in his own. A leader has to lead, to motivate, to live and lead by example, so that his people can do their own best, so the collective efforts of everyone that will bring the real change.

        Just imagine in Tigray having a rally this weekend, with a purpose supporting peace with the Eritrean people. After all the animosity and the destruction that we went through for 20 years things to come to this and this fast.

        This is because of the leadership of the PM, his influence, his pressure to challenge the status que and get to individual people’s consciousness.

        What he is doing is not just slogans but real concrete political changes. Reconciliation at almost every level of the society is not just slogans. He doesn’t have to speak in buzzar sophisticated world bank or IMF jurgons to appear to be doing or knowing what he is taking about it, that should be left to the technocrats and experts.

        But I think what he is doing is all to do with his research and the PhD theses that he did with something to do with peace.

        Melles, TPLF, EPRDF, they have done their part and let him do his part. But that doesn’t mean the political party he created was perfect that everyone has to follow to the point. May be that was the answer in 1991, but perhaps that may need change in 2018.

        He does not have to praise him day in and day out or stick to his vision. PMHD tried to do that but it didn’t succeeded so here we are. So if he wants to build his vision and destroy some from the old that he believe was destructing (such as the terrorist laws, or the press law), and invite all political parties to persue peaceful means, and invite them to participate what’s wrong with that.

        With respect.

        Berhe

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Berhe,

          You think you answered my question. But you don’t. If you want another try to help Horizon, still you could do so. My questions are specific, and the PM hasn’t touched to the major problems of the country yet, other than the slogan of peace. If you believe so, go ahead tell us. A country that is not at peace with itself can not make a sustainable peace with others. Ethiopia is not at peace with itself yet.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Aman.

            Both are not at peace within,,Ha Ha Ha !!! Look The leader of blue Nile Hydro Electric project leader who was killed….

            Do you believe me,i was talking about that mans greatness just one day before some one killed him,,

            KS,,

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Kokhob,

            Who do you think is responsible then? How can the PM prevents such acts if there are people hell bent in slowing him down by creating this kinds of inhuman acts.

            I think those people who wanted to stop him from touring the US and making peace are probably did this. I don’t think they will stop here, honestly unless he takes quick and swift actions.

            Berhe

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Amanuel,

            The first business was to make peace, and that’s exactly what he did in his address to the parliament on day one. And for weeks he followed through out the country.

            How is he suppose to make peace other than this?

            Isn’t making peace means releasing political prisoners and journalists, lifting state of emergency, making peace between religious functions, and making peace with the neighbours.

            What exactly are the major problems he hasn’t touched, please be specific. The country is not at peace with itself doesn’t mean anything if you can’t be specific.

            The people of Tigray are telling us we support the PM, the Amhara, the Oromo the Diaspora, the Orthodox Christian, the Muslims, the opposition, the journalists..,

            Who is really left out? The people planting bombs, killing civilians to drail his efforts?

            Berhe

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Berhe,

            So you are saying by implication that there is no social unrest in Ethiopia, he has reconciled whatever social conflicts within Ethiopia is. I don’t see that, there is still social unrest going on, in Ethiopia. We have different lenses for looking as to what is going on, in Ethiopia. However we look at it, we wish them luck to overcome their differences.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Amanuel,

            I know about the social unrest and the killing, but it’s not directed at the government or in reaction to the government. Those who are doing it, are doing it hidden in the cover of the dark. They are not confronting the PM with their demands, asking something for the unrest.

            How does the government can address those hidden enemies? The only way is to increase security and take hard tough measures, when patient run thin and introduce “state of emergency”.

            What’s the source of the social unrest? What did the government failed to do?
            What would you advice the government to do?

            Berhe

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Berhino,

            We have different reading on the on going problem in Ethiopia. We can’t say beyond what we have said so far, as neighbors who wishes nothing but peace and tranquility to the Ethiopian people. We don’t have the leverage to advice to them. The solution is squarely in their hand, if they use “wisdom and know how” to tackle it. If you want back and forth debate, I would like it to be on our issue.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Ema,

            Ok let’s leave it there.

            Thanks
            Berhe

          • Millennium

            Hi Amanuel
            Are you saying you were expecting more than what he has achieved? it has just been three months. That would be very flattering for him; you must have though he has supernatural powers! He is doing the right things for Ethiopia; I think you are mad with him because he made peace with Eritrea and that he had good things to say about Isaias. And you were happy with the way Melles was handling the Eritrean case. I am just glad you have no power to effect anything. Seriously!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Mellennium,

            In fact I am happy to see the end of the border saga, which the despot have been using it to hold hostage the destiny of our young generation. I am crossing my finger yet again, that the despot’s remark “one people” and “dob zeyeblu birki zimdina” might stop the long awaiting “demarcation of the border” our people are hoping to see. Without demarcating our borders, there is no lasting peace between the two people.

            Second, I am not against the PM of Ethiopia, but politics can not be resolved by slogan of peace and love. Politics is the art of comprise in addressing the socio-cultural grievances of the country. I don’t see it yet. And I don’t expect it to be resolved let alone in three to four months, even in his two years tenure up to the upcoming election. What I am saying to his supporters is wait until you see tangible solution on the ground on major issue Ethiopia is confronting with.

          • @george

            Dear aman

            Can i get your email? I need professional advice. No monkey business i promise. Even though I’m Curious George.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam George,

            Give me your e-mail, then I will e-mail you back. if it is within the boundary of my profession, I will.

      • Selam Amanuel Hidrat,

        Come on, you of all people accusing others of worshiping leaders. I bring MZ, whom you are very sensitive to the things you believe he has achieved, while you are completely blind to the crimes he committed. May be he existed a saint in your opinion.

        Yes, he was the best friend you people had at arat killo. What he did for eritrea no one else has done, either in the field or during early 1990s, until he felt betrayed by IA. Even then he was ready to give whatever eritrea demanded of him. He was much more the son of eritrea, who fought to landlock ethiopia, betrayed the sacrifice of tens of thousands of young ethiopians and unashamedly signed the algiers agreement, which brought two decades of the devastating no-war-no-peace situation, killed unarmed demonstrators in broad daylight in addis, and elsewhere overtly and covertly, etc.

        You admire him for the gerd as if it was his brainchild, forgetful of the fact that a dam over the nile has always been the dream of ethiopian leaders since menelik ii. Yes he dared to start the dam where others failed because of the geopolitical situation, until the arab spring came and egypt lost her enablers to block ethiopia’s effort to use the nile. Yes, i appreciate that, but ethiopians are also aware of the billions they have paid and continue to pay to djibouti after ethiopia was landlocked by MZ and IA, the money that could construct many gerds. Economic develop was not brought by a miracle but by indebting ethiopians with billions of dollars and by feeding the hippos in the tplf/eprdf government. Ethiopia is already feeling the effect through the shortage of foreign currency.

        Of course, you are not going to acknowledge the changes PMAA brought just within three months by dismantling the deep tplf state, while the eritrean opposition has achieved nothing and some have even turned themselves into admirers of mz/tplf. Are the following slogan: He emptied prisons, the opposition is in addis organizing themselves for the coming elections, the state of emergency cancelled and the anti-terrorism law non-functioning, ethiopians are more free than ever before and they are no more scared of the army and the security, tplf authoritarianism is made history, he brought eritrea from the cold where you could not make a dent on eritrean politics over the last two decades, he is opening access routes to the outside world in all directions, so that ethiopia could have a choice and will not be blackmailed, etc. All the dictatorial formulas were put in place by tplf whom you support, and is lamenting today, because it lost power.

        I do not have a dogmatic and everlasting support for nobody. If pm Abiy continues to deliver, he will have my support. He is not a religion for me, no matter what he does. NO. Far from me.

        • Teodros Alem

          Selam horizon
          Two tplfist arguing as if u guys r in argument,if u think by what u said above about meles is gonna compromise people thought about his evilness, u wrong.
          Meles was way way evil in the eyes of the vast majority ethiopians , way evil more than u said he is.
          No matter how u tried to make him look like he is moderate , people knows the truth.

        • Kokhob Selam

          Dear Brother Horizon,

          The man PMZ was great leader of times,,,just count what he had done the negative and positive you will find the positive are much more that of the negative,, Watch all his actions and words..He was practical unlike this man of yours those days,,

          KS,,,

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Horizon,

          Going tangential is not debating on the critics I posed to you. Go read my earlier comment again, you will find it how off you are. Big time. Meles is gone, you already have two prime ministers and they will be measured by his achievements to Ethiopia. So You are saying Meles was working for Eritrea. This is a new baseless accusation. I wish he was. Just think for a moment, you are hurting indirectly the tigrian people who believe he is a true Ethiopian and who gave his entire to bring changes to Ethiopia. Such kind of talk will not help to the leader whom you are appreciating before he tackles the socio-cultural conflict in your country.

  • Abi

    Hi Now inc
    You are wrong. We have already discussed this issue years ago. The preliminary study of GERD was completed during the King time.
    The location where GERD is being built was named ድንበር . It is one of the three locations considered in early 1970s.
    Meles took advantage of the chaos during The Egyptian revolution. His timing was perfect. I hope his name will be written in gold at GERD. Meles Dam! This is his great achievement. No question about it.
    Ethiopia could not build it earlier because we were fighting the shortsighted Eritrean ወንበዴዎች።
    You welcome

  • Blink

    Dear Awatista
    Who ever you are and whatever your political agenda you have pls take a time to at least see yourself from Abiy shoes .
    https://youtu.be/XLRixdjJJ5A

    • Mitiku Melesse

      Hei Blink.
      One Pakistan young man told us this. His family since they moved to Norway in 1970s their father (grand father of many grand sons and daughters) has kept the Pakistan tradition as a religion, specially the food. How the father is proud and how the Pakistan food made in that particular family has its own place in the family. Around 2010 had come a newly married couple and close family members following the invitation from Norway family.. The family was split into two which food to prepare home for the guests. Their traditional food which they kept from 1970 or what a typical food people serve in Norway for guests. The father won and there would be Pakistan food for the guest.

      When the food was served it was not the guest enjoying the food but Norway Pakistan people from grand father to the youngest grand children. The father asked apologetically ” I know we can not make Pakistan food like home but at least we try our best, dont you like it?”. The guests couldnt hide their surprise ”Is it pakistan food, we have never seen such Pakistan food”

      The 1970s politics of Ethiopia and Eritrea are alive only in the mind of our diaspora far far away from home. In 2018 for better or worse our people have different politics and mind set at home.

      • Blink

        Dear Mitiku
        Agreed , the weyane few people who loot the Ethiopian people and the Tigray people in particular are trying to reverse this new good thing. As abiy said this is a new time to live on .

        • Mitiku Melesse

          Hei, Blink.
          I dont blame the majority tigrians. I could have done the same if i were brought up by hating Ethiopia and showered with one of fastest economy in Africa by looted money from Ethiopia. Every time my conscious telling me it is not fair so much economical success while the owners of the money suffer so much then i tell myself remember what tplf taught me about Ethiopians and being Ethiopian.

    • Mitiku Melesse

      Hei, Blink
      How do we wage war taking one family split as an excuse. The war has nothing to do with family splitting. The war is for an excuse for begging money from USA. But that beggar mentality is over.

      We Eritreans and the non tigrian Ethiopians suffer from tplf rule. And some insult us tplf has liberated us from derg. What if they understand derg is better than tplf.

  • Hameed Al-Arabi

    Hi Awates,

    General Sibhat Efrem seems to have started his mission of deception again. I hope all to take care from him. This time will be his last dance on the heads of snakes.

    • Ismail AA

      Hayak Allah Ustaz Hameed,
      If you are talking about the youtube audio, the man is confused. I couldn’t pick anything about the message he was trying to deliver. I would love to know if you could share you take.

      • Hameed Al-Arabi

        Hayak Allah Ustaz Ismail AA,

        As I have understood it, he was warning his audience to take care from drifting to Andinet. He was telling them we should think deeply about a fate that concerns the nation and future of our children. We should not jump at anything we hear and watch blindly.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Hameed,

          It is a weekend eve. Can you link the YouTube to check whether he is in a collision with his boss.

          • Peace!

            Hi Emma,

            For weekend eve, this is not bad 🙂

            https://www.facebook.com/100003401550686/posts/1653291751460861/

            Peace!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Peace,

            Thank you buddy. We shall see if prayers change the heart of blood thirsty serial killers. I laughed while I am stepping in my home from work. Short but funny.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Salam Amanuel Hidrat,

            You have links about Sebhat Efrem hereinbelow.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mpqjm1Ml58Y

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFQ6Ewa6OAc

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hameed,

            Thank you brother. In my view, it looks an old speech of wedi Efrem. I don’t think it happened after the recent new development of “medemer” and “we are not two people.” It is the art of technology combining both event to sent to convey a warning to any conspiracy in the budding.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Salam Amanuel Hidrat,

            I think one of the videos is old, but the second one seems new. Anyhow as you said with contemporary technology nothing is impossible. It requires an eagle’s eye to spot it.

  • Blink

    Dear readers
    The Abiy government is trying to correct the 27 years of TPLF mistakes not by vengeance but by creating a better situation for everyone to recognize there was a mistake. One of the TPLF mistake was just like countless crimes committed one against the other . The TPLF regime couldn’t even sustain power for this long 27 years but they did it by colliding one against the other . Now this week Abiy set the orthodox leaders in to their old places not by removing the TPLF picked by force but by a table negotiations.

    An example of the inter-tribal conflict is how the regime exiled the Orthodox Church synod from the country. It removed all the legitimate representatives of the Orthodox Church from their positions, and replaced them with people from the Tigrayan people. This forced former church leaders into exile and they currently reside in the United States.The people that the TPLF unjustly installed as leaders of the Orthodox Church were not recognised as the legitimate leaders of this community — the Ethiopian people still recognise the former leaders of the church so when they come back they still have their community.
    Now there’s one serious problem ahead and that is Land issues . The TPLF took land to gain control of precious minerals, fertile arable land, and significant oil reserves even they put a mountain that was not in Tigray in their text book just claiming Badme as their own and putting settlers from 2002 without non stop now they in their Kilil are asking these new settlers to negotiate the border issue .

  • Amde

    Selam Awatistas (especially the Muslim ones)

    I was wondering if you had a chance to listen to Dr. Abiy”s address to the Badr Convention in Virginia today, and if so, what you thought of it.

    The audience seemed happy, but since I am not Muslim I have no perspective to judge the speech. Was it acceptable? Did he delve into theological issues? Was it great? Do you think it is within the bounds of current and/or traditional Muslim community opinion.

    Thank you in advance.

    I also saw his responses in the forum for opposition political parties. I think he came across very well. If EPRDF loses the next election it won’t be because of him.

    Amde

    • Ismail AA

      Selam gashe Amde,

      I did listen to the speech. The good doctor is well versed in knowledge of Islam and history. His command and competence qualify him to a level of an Al Azhar graduate in history and jurisprudence. He interpreted in an excellent way the first words he used to greet the audience: “Al salam Alykum wa rahmatullahi”. He quoted wise sayings from the Khalifs such as Abu Bakr al Sadiq and Omar. No one can do that save one who read and studied history of Islam. He spoke about the meaning and philosophy of the Five Pillars of Islam, stressing essence of true Islam to be giving help to others than receiving. He spoke about the importance of strong and united Islam and united and strong Christianity for the future of Ethiopia.

      By the way, I did not take serious testimony one of his peers in his own village told an interlocutor that Abij finished memorizing the Holy Koran in months when he came back to village for during school recess. Now, after listening to this talk, I believed the man. The audience were very much receptive and in fact excited. I noted the hall was half or more full of women with head scarves.

      • Acria

        Selam Ismail AA,
        Most, if not all, his speeches are very captivating. Whatever subject he is talking about, he does it well.

      • Amde

        Selam Gash Ismael AA,

        Thank you so much. I would love to hear from more Muslims.

        In the session he later had with opposition parties, a question was raised about እርቅ and ሽምግልና። He said something very telling. He said ሽምግልና has become a business. There are more people doing ሽምግልና than ever but the number of conflicts are going higher. He thinks therefore we have to rely on some of our traditional institutions.

        So, while I think he is a preacher at heart, I think he is reinforcing traditional religious authorities to help him and the country get through the inevitable dark times ahead. It helps that he has an expansive and historic perspective of Ethiopia and its place in the region.

        It is so refreshing we are out of the era of politics of deeply religious societies being the sole province of aggressively secular even atheistic players. Politicians must resemble their society as much as possible.

        Amde

        • Ismail AA

          Selam gash Amde,

          The point you raised on Abij seeking some prop ups from widely followed religious establishments makes an observer pause and reflect. The question that pops up in the mind is to what end, with the a corollary of what he is prepared or able to deliver.

          In the case of Orthodox church, the minimum would be restoration of hitherto lost statuses in influence of the many gedams and claim of “gult” possessions. This could be very challenging matter that foresees changing land ownership policies that would endanger key achievement of the revolution that toppled the imperial order. On the Mulsim side, it status promotion to the level of the counterpart. Unless the good doctor has very serious personal endgame down the road, as I tried to briefly state yesterday in one of my entries, dealing with religious establishments may not be risk free adventure.

          He seems to have started from the easiest tasks – the mediating to mend the rifts, which has so far gone well in the case of the synods though durability is to be seen. On Islamic side, it is still work in process, which might not as easy at had been with the Orthodox church, since it involves theological disputes that seek references outside the borders of the country..

      • Teodros Alem

        Selam ismail
        He also said how ethiopian Muslims can save middle east from distraction by teaching ethiopia history (ethiopian Islamic history) and ethiopian Muslims experience, not the othet way round.

        • Blink

          Dear Teodrose
          Muslim brotherhood and Qatar will fight him to death if he ever try to use the Ethiopian one. Islam is suffering from it’s failure not to listen to Muslim bright sons . Remember Islamic political culture is a hideous thing for many Muslim who wanted to shift the killing culture to a productive one . Many Muslim great thinkers have no space to speak in the ME. The sheikhs who sit as a lazy guard can’t give space to the bright once and until they got removed from that chair Islam will remain the bad side of a great people . These days bomb and knife are being made as synonymous to Muslims because of these lazy few evil guys .

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam blink
            There might be obstacle but am sure ethiopian Muslims can contribute a big influence once ethiopia in general and ethiopian Muslims in particular organized the economy and institutions stronger. When the time ethiopia become stronger economically, Qatar and other will not be as u think they r, big.

          • Blink

            Dear Teodrose
            If Ethiopia reached that level , yes you are right Qatar and it’s terrorist roots will do nothing but until that time it is a very rough road . Remember Muslim brotherhood act more democratic in the surface and when you open them you see a sheria and an Islamic political agenda in titter. Remember the way Eritreans Muslims handled PFDJ is one of the best Example . In Eritrea we have a very very nice tradition but these out side Eritrea are buying in to Saudi and Qatar lazy sheiks definition of Islam and these people are 24/7 trying to sell the evil attitude of the Saudis and Qataris in to Eritrea . Let’s hope Abiy win this fight .

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam blink
            I didn’t mean they have to wait until the economy level to reach Qatar standard, i meant when ethiopia become stronger the influence will be biger.
            Why u make it look like nagative ur…

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Blink,

            Do you think the Brotherhood are reading the Islamic scriptures wrong?

            Unlike Science, in religion which by definition is dogmatic and is closed, opposite sides can argue to have the correct interpretation.

          • Blink

            Dear Simone
            I afraid you will end this also as before telling me widening my horizon. Ok Muslim brotherhood is a political arm of Islam and many Muslims who disagree with their views can not find any chance to push their views . Now why do I mentioned them ? Well the obvious reasons of infiltrating society of different dogmas are being pushed by them when th the name of democracy and justice for the little man are being used by them. They don’t represent democracy but since they can win many communities by their socialist ideas of bread .

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Blink,

            Let me clarify. Although I am not a specialist in theology, among other things, I am interested in theological arguments and disputes.

            You said: ” Islam is suffering from it’s failure not to listen to Muslim bright sons.”

            I find this statement to be self-contradictory.

            In the disagreements between the Brotherhood and their opponents, who is right, in your opinion? Why? Can you support your arguments using Islamic holy texts?

    • saay7

      Selamat Amde:

      Well, yeah, I did, how could I not: I only got a gazillion notifications to do so.

      I don’t know if I am the right guy to give an unbiased feeback because every time Abiy speaks I can’t quiet a voice that says, “oh, here is another area where Isaias Afwerki is extraordinarily bad it.” No, kidding. Partly. To watch the greatness of Abiy is to be reminded of the awfulness of Isaias. The religious message. So, my take:

      In Islam (which unlike many religions had a prophet who was also a governor of a city-state), the formula for virtuous citizenship is: Amr bi al-Maruf wa’l-Nahy an al-Munkar, al-munker which the Oxford Islamic Studies translates as:

      Enjoining the right/honorable and forbidding the wrong/dishonorable. Used in the Quran nine times, referring to the collective duty of the Muslim community to encourage righteous behavior and discourage immorality, as recognized by reason and the Islamic moral and legal system. Aims to remove oppression from society and instead establish justice. Applied to moral, social, political, and economic facets of life. It is, ideally, the distinguishing trait of the Muslim nation.

      So, here, what Abiy cleverly did is to say, “hey, on the second half of that formula, when you see something evil, don’t criticize me because there are a lot of people who will do that; correct me and show me the right path.” Well, how can you argue with that?

      Ok, so now random observations:

      1. The flag is Abi’s flag: the pre-weyane one;
      2. The women outnumber the men. I am assuming they were outside smoking or talking politics and they missed the show. His appearance was rumored to happen but people assumed it wouldn’t;
      3. A few years ago, this same organization sent a delegation to Meles Zenawi to express their reservations on the census of Ethiopia which showed the Ethiopian Muslim population to be less that the legendary 50-50. Meles Zenawi’s answer was that the chief of the census bureau is a Hijab wearing Muslim woman. Eyob and I had a huge fight over that, back when Eyob was a Weyane. Here Abiy deftly skipped the topic, “hey, you are more than the Gulf states combined: you know how many you are.” Wink.

      Did I mention Isaias sucks at everything? Can you imagine him addressing an Eritrean version of this association. It would begin with an insult and end with a put-down.

      Aren’t you glad you asked, Amde?

      saay

      • Amde

        Haha saay,

        I am VERY glad I asked as you were one of the people I would get a response from.

        I noticed the wink on the number too haha. I think they invented the word “deft” for him.

        The anecdote of him telling the Prince of UAE “Thank you but we will teach you the true meaning of Islam which you have forgotten”.. wow… they must really have a good chemistry going.

        Thank you,

        Amde

    • Blink

      Dear Amde
      Abiy does everything good and he was explaining to the people for the benefit of Ethiopians and Ethiopia as a country. On the opposite sides, his personal understanding of Islam I guess is in line to the pente , I mean you can just ask one pente if you know one and you will get the depth these people define Islam.
      What I find it best of the journey was when abiy called people like Brhanu Nega and the esat guys , I just can’t believe how Solomon and Daniel brhane feel .

      • Selam Blink,

        You told us that you are an atheist. Your atheism, i think, is not the product of your deep knowledge about both religions, but the bias you have towards religion in general.

        How could you say that pm Abiy’s understanding of Islam, is in line to the pente? Does it mean that all those who were sitting there and listening to the pm, as he quoted extracts from islam, were unfamiliar to what was being said, and they were applauding to things they had no idea about? Remember, these are muslim men and women, some of them deeply engaged in the religion.

        • Blink

          Dear Horizon
          You see I am honest about my bias against religion but what do you call to the apologists of both religion. To tell you I know very little about Christianity and that shouldn’t be a problem in telling the horror stories of the Christianity,in addition how could one virgin lady give birth because someone said so is still buzzing me. I know more than the 5 points abiy mentioned . I used to go to Quran school so you know . The notion Islam is about giving and doing everything good is not true and I am sure anyone who read from outside will be able to find everything the good and the bad . I am not discounting the people listening to Abiy . I believe they are committed Muslims and what I said has nothing to do with them. What I know is Penete are known for their definitive reason on Islam and on all other religions for that matter .
          People may go to Wikipedia to look at so many definitions or historical background of Islamic morality at the old times and that is the way apologists has been framing their reasons. You have to take my words as my open understanding of the matter not biased against religion.

    • Brhan

      Amde,
      Thanks for your comment but Dr. Abiy Ahmed Ali (AAA) is a politician and politicians like AAA as you know will be every where to address if there is an interest in that.

    • Mitiku Melesse

      Hei Amde.
      Do you understand amharic? If you do so then it doesnt matter whether you are muslim or not. The message is good. I am not a muslim but i understood it. And most of all an Ethiopian leader giving respect for what his people are occupied with ie religion. If i were a leader God forbid, then i start how religion is the mother of all our wars, how many lives were consumed due to religion war giving examples. How to invest the money on hospital than religious institution because all religious people use the hospital and their religion to heal them when they are sick. Or If all religious people go to their religous center to get heal and not to hospital, then we could saved a lot at least from our health institute.

      • Amde

        ሰላም ምትኩ

        አማርኛ በከፊልም ይገባኛል ብዬ አስባልሁ።

        The message sounds good to you and I – presumably Christian people. My question was how it sounded Muslims who listen with a more critical ear and know a lot more about what is proper and what is not.

        ክርስትና ለማያውቅ ሰው. Dr. Abiy “አራቱም ሥላሴውዎች ይባርኳችሁ።” ቢል it sounds great, but for a Christian it is nonsense. ለማለት ነው።

        Amde

        • Mitiku Melesse

          Hei Amde.
          I got you. I already confused with three.

          How did it sound for you when you listen to it and have seen the public reaction. I love it.

        • Saleh Johar

          Hi Amde,
          The speech was good and Abiy is good and telling his audience what they wish to hear. In that, he has the skill to melt the ice. But the content was so rudimentary that any person with very basic knowledge of Islamic history and theology repeats. I was interested in what he said about the discussion he has with the UAE alga werash… that type of Islam himself and his neighbors have been exporting to the world was a corrupted, politically wrapped, an archaic form of Islam–the kind that was fueling the inter-Arab wars since the first Islamic century—and they managed to export their past violent, intolerant, political history as part and parcel of Islam to the whole world helped by their unlimited publishing, scholarship and other resources. And they succeeded to export their biases, prejudices, and squabbles. The best idea, which Ethiopia always failed to do, is to have an Islamic institute where Ethiopians do not need to be preoccupied with the cultures and sectarian teaching that plague the Arab world but to develop their own Islamic history, their indigenous history though that needs a thorough study and closure between all Ethiopians.

          So, it is not Aratu selasiewoch, not that bad. But he cannot repeat the same speech if he is going to do it again–he needs to elevate his speech a bit higher, something tangible, not the fiqrenna selaam mezmur alone.

          • Amde

            Selam Gash Saleh,

            Well.. I guess there is a tad bit of daylight between how you characterized it and how another august member of this forum did.

            I thought the rest of his comments – about developing an Islamic institute and developing an Ethiopian version that can be taught back to the Arabian peninsula -reflects what you espoused. You didnt think so?

            Amde

          • Saleh Johar

            Amde,
            Yes, partly. But I thought it was saphomoric. Either he didn’t have an original thought or he under estimated the knowledge of his audience that is the problem, I think.

  • Abraham H.

    Selam george, I consider this post of yours as a joke and it doesn’t merit my reply.

    • @george

      Dear abrham

      You are not the only one. A lot of people think that way. But i really belive that. UN is a prelude to whats to come in the near future. A global government that does not recognize nation states. Much like EU, the most undemocratic, terroristic organization. It would be wise for you to read how about United Nation true intentions and its future consequence in depth before you dismiss it.