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Ethio-Eritrean Border Tension

Tens of Ethiopian civilians allegedly kidnapped a month ago by rebels–operating out of Eritrea and supported by its government–have been released yesterday. An Ethiopian radio station announced the news.

Other reports indicated the prisoners were “sent across the border to the Sudan on their way to be returned to Ethiopia.”

Earlier today, adoulis.net reported that, “around fifty armed Eritrean soldiers and civilians who crossed the Eritrean border to the Sudanese territories about four days ago, are now in the custody of Sudanese intelligence outfit.”

Sources from Gedaref, Sudan, who spoke to Gedab News couldn’t confirm if the reports actually, “referred to two separate batches of arrivals or only one.”

The sources also said, “so many people are arriving in Sudan through the borders close to the triangular region.”

The three towns of Humera (Ethiopia), UmHager (Eritrea), and Hamdait (Sudan) are located in a triangular region straddling the three countries.

Ten days ago, Ethiopian sources indicated that as many as 80 Ethiopians were kidnapped by Ethiopian rebels who infiltrated the Tigrai region from its northern neighbor, Eritrea.

The Ethiopian civilians were allegedly kidnapped on January 29,  from an area called “Idris” near Humera, where many Ethiopians illegally mine for gold in a traditional way.

On February 18, 2016, an eyewitness told VoA Tigrinya program that around 400 people were working at the gold mining site when armed men from Eritrea surrounded them. The eyewitness also indicated they were taken to the Eritrean side of the river from where they attempted to escape and chaos ensued. Consequently, they were shot at and one person was killed while another drowned in the Mereb/Setit River.

Since the beginning of this year, the Eritrean opposition organizations have also claimed they were engaged in several skirmishes with government forces inside Eritrea—the Eritrean regime never acknowledges the presence of an Eritrean opposition and doesn’t mention incidents involving its armed and unarmed opposition groups and organizations.

The security situation between the two countries has now escalated to an alarming stage. While the Ethiopian government has accused the Eritrean government of having a hand in the unrest in Ethiopia which has resulted in the loss of many lives, the Eritrean Ministry of Information responded to that accusation today in a press release. It stated:

“The TPLF regime has marginalized the Ethiopian people in the past twenty five years to install an economy beset by endemic and unbridled corruption and that is controlled by embezzlers. It is this grim reality, at odds with a spurious and embellishing narrative, that has prompted and underpins the ongoing protests of the Ethiopian people.”

As a result of the escalation, the two countries are amassing their armed forces in the border areas where they have brought engineers and large number of earth moving equipment to work on the border area terrain.

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  • AMAN

    (CONTINUATION…)
    I will also give you more explanations about
    the recent ( last week or last month ) debacle
    what I meant and how I saw our politics from
    my point of view.
    It will be made public what I indeed to mean
    and what I said.
    And you the public will be the Judge !
    Thank you,
    AMAN

  • Aman

    Dear Awates
    Greetings first ,
    When I started to write on your forum, I only thought
    or intended it will for a short period 1 or max. 2yrs as
    I was between jobs and my expectation to return soon
    to work may be 3 or 4 months. So I put myself on faster
    pedestal to help as much as I can within that little window
    of time as I will be absent when I start job/work.
    So from the beginning it was enhanced faster start which
    I couldn’t slow the momentum even if I wanted to because
    of the crowd in the runway.
    So I apologize to you for pulling your discussions faster than
    normal or supposed to be. I always knew that the pace I was
    pedaling is not normal but hoped it will enhance both the two
    pages of the book of the peace makers.
    I was only aiming to enhance the capacity of the independent
    judiciary or peacemakers dictionary.
    I hoped that ( may be incorrectly or naively ) peace makers
    will stick to their duty of their judiciary fall to party doctrines.
    But as a person I have my political bias and choices I am
    entitled to that I believe I didn’t reflect them openly.
    But I believe many of my intentions slipped through the cracks
    and much of the true spirit of the reading or the book has been
    lost in translation. I blame no one nobody but my hurry and naive
    trust of others.
    So my apologies to everyone affected and / or aggrieved again.
    All my expectation was to supplement, correct and use them
    wisely than me before put the unfinished and unedited material
    ( by concerned experts) into official and public use.
    But again those who didn’t or don’t like them had the choice then
    to refute and reject them.
    But again politics is not as used to be, it is penetrated by the latest
    developments and advancement in IT and CT technology and is so
    fluid and structure less than we commonly know or have known till
    this moment. Thus, on the other hand the writings were not wrong,
    unfit and meaningless at all viewed in todays reality of CT & IT age.
    Thank you all
    I again apologize to those affected.
    It will not happen again.
    Yours,
    AMAN

  • Ayneta

    Lamek:
    Looking forward for your input. I wonder if it is a fair assessment to put Mahmud in the same category with the others though. The latter are the political whores of IA. They act like the girl who find it impossible to forget the guy who first take her to bed. Mahmud, despite his intermittent propensity to sometimes display ultra-nationalistic tendencies, the dude is quite modest and fair in his writings.

  • Ayneta

    Amde:
    Happy Adwa day. It is a universal glorious day for all Africans, including Eritreans.
    Don’t heed to what dawit has to write. The dude is damaged beyond any sign of hope. He will assume sleepless nights to refute anything significant about Ethiopia, even those that are universally accepted as colossal achievements like Adwa. He has a massive blind spot that he cant overcome!

    • Amde

      Selam Ayneta,

      Thank you.

      It is a rather strange comment from a man who is proud to say znegese ngusna in this day and age.

      Amde

      • dawit

        A mde,
        There are three kings in Abyssinian land, that I admire King Lalibela, King Tewodros II and President Isaias. The rest are just useless clowns. We would have reached here in 21st. Century even if we were ruled by Baboons.
        dawit

        • saay7

          Hey cousin Dawit:

          I can’t wait for your answer to this question because it’s going to be awesome:

          1. Dawitism proclaims that Whoever Is Crowned Is Our King and we should accept him as legitimate ruler;
          2. Dawitism was practiced in Ethiopia for centuries. That is, even as the ruling class fought among itself, the people said “whoever is crowned is our king”
          3. As a result, according to Dawit, we have had only 3 out of dozens of kings who were worthy of the crown.
          4. Dawitism accepts having kings who cannot be differentiated from baboons. For decades.

          Meanwhile, over in Europe, the people overthrow the monarchs , the feudal lords, the mercantilist, and now they are fighting oligarchs.

          And they seem to be way more advanced.

          Is there a fatal flaw in Dawitism? 🙂

          saay

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Saay7,
            Dawitism is no more Dawitism that we all described before.. he only admire 3 among them but sill his doctrine ” who ever crowned is my king “. works for him. Why he admire those 3? the answer will lead me to his belief and character…I am going to continue my lessons in psychology- Eritrea needs psychologists WLAHI…

          • dawit

            Kokhobai,
            Are you going to see a psychologist? I think that is a good idea! I know ‘Dawitism’ is shattering your mind 360 degrees. Don’t worry you will get used it in time, when you are ‘Born Again’
            Why only 3? I added one look for the answered read my reply to AMDE.
            Cheers
            dawit

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear dawitom,
            “Are you going to see a psychologist? ” No No! I want to have enough education to do my national service in curing my brothers like you…”znegese nGusna” Lol.

            “know ‘Dawitism’ is shattering your mind 360 degrees. Don’t worry you will get used it in time, when you are ‘Born Again'”yes, yes it shattered my mind…no problem what else should be, if not for my fellow Eritrean. What else man is for – in this world if not serve his brother like you.
            “Why only 3? ” the formula is the same. don’t worry, all you have to do is prepare yourself to be cured – go mentally and physically ready and fit. Ha,ha ha ! stop chewing! – it affects the central processing unit of brain..

            bye

          • dawit

            Dear Cousin SAAY

            No cousin there is no flaws in ‘Dawitism’. But to understand the true meaning of Dawitism, as the Christian theology put it ‘You have to be born again’. As you said our people allowed even baboons allowed to rule over them as long as they didn’t interfere with God given free gift of sunshine and rain. Yes there were only few worthy of ruling. I must add Queen Yodit among them, the three men I mentioned.

            It is interesting you brought Europe to contrast with our condition today. I checked the Wikipedia and There are 12 Monarchies small and large countries including Vatican the Pope. Among them Sweden, Norway, England have a equal or better governments as those who abandoned the Monarchy in their recent history. Throughout the world there are 40 or more countries that accepted the Monarchy as their head of state, which include, Japan, Canada, Australia and number of them in the middle east. Most are peaceful and prosperous countries. I don’t think overthrowing Monarchs and replacing them with other Baboons make a big difference in the standard of living for the common people. In fact the Monarchy system provides a longer period of stabilities that may help establish peace to the nation so that the people will focus in their daily lives than the frequent changes of baboons to rule over them. As I said earlier you need to be baptized and born again to really understand the real philosophy behind “Dawitism’ the wisdom of our forefathers { ዝሓረመ ማይና፡ዝበረቀ ጸሓይና ዝነገሰ ንጉስና }

          • Music Novice

            Greetings Dawit,

            I agree with your choice of leaders. In particular, Theodoros was a great man, too advanced for his time. He was let down by relatively petty minded people.

            In Europe, all the kings had been and still are mediocrities, the only exception being Napoleon. Napoleon was a genius of immense proportions. But even geniuses make mistakes, which was the case with Napoleon, Theodoros and now with Isaias.

          • dawit

            Greetings Music Novice,
            You know MN there is one a historic traditional song “Nguse Nguse wedeboy Alfa?” that truly fit our time in history. If fits well with the fall of a leader and its consequences. The fall of M.Gadafi and the Libyan people tragedy proves what was recorded in a form of song taken from a page of Eritrean Music history! I tried to look for it in internet but I couldn’t find it. Since your nick is music could you find it? Years a go I had an album by Amleset Abay, she sings beautifully. I lost it. I really would like to listen to it, several Eritrean classical singers sing it. Can you help finding that song?
            Thanks
            dawit

          • Music Novice

            Greetings dawit,

            Unfortunately, my expertise in Eritrean and Ethiopian music is very limited. Therefore, I cannot help you.

            The following are what I know and appreciate.

            From Eritrea: Tecle Tesfazghi, Osman Abdelrehim and Yemane G/Michael.

            From Ethiopia: Alemayehu Eshete, Ali Birra, Ali Shebo, Tsegaye Kassa, and Mukbil.

          • sara

            Dear MN
            there is a good and interesting article out in a long time by one of our seniors, and i want you to join us congratulating him for it. for sure you know one of the motto of this forum is RECONCILIATION, and you as a good Eritrean its time to apply it…and do the right thing.
            with respect.

          • dawit

            MN you know there is an Amharic proverb ‘kesew Sihtet kebret Ziget aytefam’. Even the genius make mistakes. ‘to err is human and to forgive is divine’

          • Dis Donc

            Dear Muzika,

            Jesus Christ,
            Man; do you even know who Napoleon is?

            Wow… simply 1812

          • Music Novice

            Dis Donc,

            The simpleton and waste of time.

          • saay7

            Selamat Cuz dawit:

            Not your best answer; you must have been tired: so I will give you a second chance:)

            According to my “የ ኢትዮፕያ ታሪክ” (not an elective course:), between 204 BC and 1974 AD, Ethiopia had 196 Monarchs and kings and princes. (From Menelik I to Haile Selasse I.) From these 196 rulers, you have told us that only 4 (3 men and 1 afterthought woman after I asked) were worthy of the title. One of them, Isaias Afwerki, should not even in the list because, um, he doesn’t rule Ethiopia. But I will be generous and allow it since he is in the mold of the Ethiopian tyrants. That is to say, 192 were not. That is: 98% 192/196) were not fit to be rulers and, in your indelicate terms, not that much different from baboons.

            So here’s my quandary (and being born again is not an option for me:) so I would appreciate you using logic to help me out:

            1. Dawitism = zenegese ngusna = “Whoever is crowned is my king”;
            2. Whoever is crowned is king = 98% of the time a baboon ruler;
            3. Ergo, Presto: Dawitism demands that the people quietly accept a king even if, statistically, there is a 98% chance the ruler will be no better than a baboon.

            Right?

            Now, as for the modern monarchies in Europe, you know all of them are ceremonial posts because you know the difference between head of state and head of government. Si?

            saay

          • Saleh Johar

            Hello dawit and Saay,
            I am wondering what would be dawit’s position if, say any of our neighbors occupied Eritrea–Haielamrian Desalegn, Al Bashir, even Ismaïl Guelleh helped by a superpower, Kenyata, Moseveni or the Saudi –would it be znegese negusna?

            A second question: Haile Sellasie was “zenegese negusna” were you, dawit, okay with that?

        • Amde

          dawit,

          I am really curious why King Laibela belongs in this list.

          Isayyas and Tewodros share some characteristics of being cruel and revolutionary. Isayyas has a lot more cruelty and little in terms of being revolutionary other than climbing the ladders of existing “revolutionary” groups. Tewodros is undoubtedly the more revolutionary of the two .. by a country mile as they say. Your preference for strong authoritarian even cruel leaders is evident..

          But King Lalibela?

          Amde

          • dawit

            A mde,

            Take it easy, I believe you must be one of those programed to hate a strong ‘Ethiopian’ leader. For heaven’s sake AMDE how do you compare your baboon king Emye Menilik, who chopped their limbs of his fellow men, left them to die bleeding. Eritreans peasant were dragged into a war that he ignited at Wuchale making a deal with the devil. Now compare that to what Tegadelti of EPLF under the command of Isaias did to captured Ethiopian (Derg) soldiers. They fed them, the treat their wounds, they schooled them and finally they helped them to go to their families or go to Sudan.

            About King Lalibela. Actually I have revised my list to include Queen Yodit among the few worthy Ethiopian leaders. Why King Lalibela? Lalibela a true genius king that left something tangible thing for Ethiopian generation to come. He left a church a place of worship for the people to use out of a single Rock. Have you ever visited Lalibela? If you haven’t you should. Thousands from around the world tourists flock to visit.it. Lalibela church it is designated as one of the World Heritage Center by UNESCO. Lalibela is not some Pyramid heap of stone a tomb for some cruel Pharaoh built by slave labor,or some stone standing idle like what we have at Axum. King Lalibela did not use slave labor to build eleven churches out of one rock. He paid the workers, perhaps he was the first king to wages to the workers perhaps in the world.. He left a churches a place of worship for the people to use out of a single Rock .Ordinary people today make a living providing services to visitors. Lalibela is also center of scholarship for religious studies. Young men from all regions came to study. My own grandfather studied at Lalibela to be a priest in his village. I am a direct beneficiary of King Lalibela my teacher Aleqa Asnaqe studied at Lalibela, and he started a school (Qes Timertbet) in our neighborhood in Addis Abeba. So you see my friend can you see why Lalibela was the greatest king in Ethiopia!
            Thewordos like Lalibela had a vision to build a strong united Ethiopia. He had a vision for Ethiopia to adopt technical education like that of Europe. But his vision was cut short by the baboons, dragging Ethiopia back to stone ages. I have not yet visited Meqdela, I tried to visit it last time I visited Ethiopia, because transportation logistics and time constraint I couldn’t That is one place I dream to visit.
            Like Tewodros and Lalibela, Isaias has a vision for his people. He build dams, roads, schools to free them out of poverty. He is living some thing tangible that could change the lives of ordinary people and the generation that will follow. He wants his people to have equal justice regardless of their status, religion or national or tribal association. You see AMDE people don’t follow you because you have more guns or money unless they are convinced on what you tell them would benefit them or their children. Think about Yodit, she must have observed some injustice in her society and decided to change it that must be why people wanted to follow her. Same for Tewodros, he didn’t have wealth or anything, but wanted to change the injustices he observed in his society so convinced those around him to change it and volunteer to lead them, so they trusted him and followed him. You can think same way about Isaias, he was not wealthy, just like ordinary Eritrean youth, he didn’t like the Ethiopian occupation of his country so joined the Armed struggle that was started by Awate. He didn’t like it how the front was lead, so he split others followed him and trusted him. You cannot just climb the ladder of leadership unless those around you believed and trusted you leadership. Believe it or not Dawit does not follow any leader blindly he follows people who are honest and fair and care for ordinary people. Dawit is the man with independent thinking does not follow the crowed. . .
            dawit

          • Amde

            Selam dawit,

            You are purposely conflating categories called “Prisoner of War” vs “Traitor”. I don’t care where you go, you get treated a lot more harshly if you fund yourself in the “Traitor” bucket vs the “POW” bucket. It didn’t start with Menelik and it won’t end with him. I asked you how EPLF treated those it considered traitors and you tell me how humane they were to Ethiopian POWs. Fiyel wedih something something wediya new negeru. In any case, I am not defending what was done to them, just stating why their treatment was different.

            I liked your presentation on King Lalibela.. Now, I am genuinely interested in what you have to say about the Queen Yodit. She is also one of the mysterious historic characters . I always thought she was a Jewish queen who sacked the upstart Christian Axumite empire. She was unfairly written out of history since most of our history has healthy doses of Christian propaganda. But definitely, for her to be mentioned as the one who pulled the plug on the Axumite empire (as irrational as that sounds), she must have been a truly historic figure. I would even say on a par with Ahmed Gragn and Tewodros. But i definitely would be interested to learn more about her.

            Amde

          • Abraham Hanibal

            Hi dawit,
            Please don’t contradict your senseless mantra of ‘znegese ngusna’ by saying: “Believe it or not Dawit does not follow any leader blindly he follows people who are honest and fair and care for ordinary people”. Your belief itself is against basic justice and fairness; it means just accepting anyone blindly, even a baboon, who holds power. One who supports whoever rules, regardless of their track record is dumb at least, or evil at worst.
            You also said ,”He [Isayas] wants his people to have equal justice regardless of their status, religion or national or tribal association.” What kind of justice are you talking about; if you are saying Isayas mistreats his people equally by arbitrarily arresting, disappearing, and killing them as he pleases; then you are right. You are such a mentally troubled soul that what is bad for normal people is good for you. Seek some help, man!

          • Kokhob Selam

            Ddear Abraham
            ማዕርነት በደል ! “ምስ ህዝብኻ መዓት ዳርጋ ገዓት ”

            ግን :-
            ፈላላይ እንተዝህሉ ኣብ በደል :-
            ምስ በዘሐ ነይሩ ምስ ሓሶት ዝዝንብል :-

            ማዕረ በደል ምዃኑ ዶ ኾን ይሓይሽ :-
            ኢለ ገመትኩሞ ገባቲ ክሕመሸሽ :-
            ኩሉ ሓደ ድኣ ባዶ ኮይኑ ብላሽ :-
            “ከም ሰበይ” ሳዕሪሩ ንነብሱ ዝቅሽሽ ::

    • kazanchis

      Thank you! Indeed, Adwa victory gave much needed hope for independent Africa and freedom of mankind. No race is superior than the other. Adwa broke the backbone of white supremacists. It is an African and black peoples victory!

  • Lamek

    Of deceit and masterful writing.

    Selamat all.

    May I have your attention.

    Gheteb, Saay7, Mahmoud Saleh, dawit, MN, and Semere Tesfai are purposefully creating mass confusion here. It’s sad so many people take them as honest individuals expressing concern for the Eritrean people. No no. These guys I mentioned above couldn’t careless for you or for any Eritrean. So long as the land is protected, the people can perish one by one. No big deal for these chauvinists and arrogant nationalists.

    Now my spring break is coming soon. I will expose their lies and crocodile tears for you. Stay tuned.

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Dear Lamek,

      With all due respect, there is no way you could put Mahmuday and Saay in the same basket with dawit, Gheteb, and MN who are the political mouth of PFDJ. Review your judgenent please.

      Regards
      Amanuel Hidrat

      • Music Novice

        Greetings Amanuel H.,

        What have you done between 1991 and now to help ordinary folk in Eritrea?

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          ሰላም ሐው MN,

          ማሕጸን ሀገር ንደቃ ክትሕሰም ከላ አይርኢኻ ዝሐወይ:: በቶም ቀዳሞት ደቃ ምስጀመረት ክሳዕ እዛሰዓትእዚኣ ነቶም ንአሽቱ ከይተረፈ ክትሐቅፎም ጸጊምዋስ ፈቀዶ ምድረበዳን ባሕርን ክጸንቱ ንዕዘቦ ዜለና ጉዳይ እዪ:: ንዓኻውን እንተትሐቆፈካስ ምሳና አብ ስደት አይምሃለኻን በሀሊ እየ:: ስለዚ ንሕቶኻ በተዛዋሪ መንገዲ መሊሰልካ ስለዘለኹ አብ አተሐሳስባኻ ምትዕርራይ ንኽትገብር በጽሞና ይጽበ ::

          ሓዉኻ
          አማኑኤል ሕድራት

          • Music Novice

            Greetings Amanuel H.,

            Between 1991 and 1998, internally, Eritrea was the most peaceful country in the World. There were many opportunities for non-politically motivated individuals for helping ordinary Eritrean folk. I know many individuals who came from abroad to share their skills.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            ሐው MN,

            መጀመሪያ ምስ ሐደ ካብ ሕቡአን ኢንተርነት ክማላለስ ዋላኳ ቅር እንተበለኒ: ነቲ ዘንባዕ አተሓሳስባኻ መልሲ ከይሃብክሉ ክሐልፍ ግን ሕልናይ እምቢ ስለዝበለኒ ክምልሰልካ ክፍትን እየ::

            ሓው MN, ምናልባት አብ ከባቢ 1991 ሕጻን ኮይንካ አብትሕቲ ሕቁፎ አደኻ ትሳራሰረሉ ዝነበርካ ጊዜ ከይከውን ደአምበር: እዚ ሒጂ ትካላኸለሉ ዘለኻ መራሒ ሀገር ዝሃበና መምሪሒ: ካብሕጂ ኒነው ” ናይ ወድባት ሐሸውየ የለን ” አተሐሳስባኹምን ፖለቲካዊ እምነትኩምን ኒድሕሪት ገዲፍኩም ትአትው ስለዝተበሃልና: ወይውን ብኻልእ አዘራርባ ናይ አተሐሳስባ ጽዊዒት ዘይብሉ ናይ አካላዊ ምጽንባር ጠለብ ስለዝነበረ: ጸረ “ሐደአዊ አማኑኤል ” ንአተሐሳስብኡን ንአካላውን ሓድነቱ ዝፈታትን ብምንባሩ ኔው ኢለዮ::

            ዝገርም ከአ እቲ ናይ አተሐሳስባ ጨቆና አብ ልዕሌና ዝተወስደ ብሸለልታ ሰለዝተራእየ እቲ መሳርዕ ናይ አተሐሳስባ ጭቆና ናብ አባላት እቲ ውድብ እንዳተዘርገሔ ምኻዱዪ:: እዚ ሕጂ ሳዕሪሩ ዘሎ ናይ አተሐሳስባ ጭቆና እምበአር ሓዱሽ አይኮነን:: ስለዚ ቁሩብ ናይቲ አብቲ ጊዜቲ ዝነበረ ፖለቲካዊ – ታሪኽ አተሓሒዘካ ኽኸውን ተስፋ እገብር::

            ሓውካ
            አማኑኤል ሕድራት

          • Music Novice

            Greetings Amanuel H.,

            Helping ordinary folk, I am talking about, not politics.

            In any case, too many lame excuses!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear NN,

            How do you want me to help the ordinary people, if I am not allowed to come in by the power of the day, as “Amanuel Hidrat” with the unison of his mind and his body? If you are from the thinking spieces, think for a moment when they tell you to leave your rational mind closed in any compartment of their will – that is against your will and act like robot only to do what they tell you, then what makes you different than the normal pet in their estate. I refuse to be that. But unfortunately that is how the mind PFDJ lots work.

            Regards
            Amanuel Hidrat

    • dawit

      Lamek,

      There is too much noise in the house, Can you speak louder? We still can’t hear you!
      “Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people.”

      Henry Thomas. Find your place and SITDOWN.

      • Lamek

        dawit, I am not discussing you. I am saying you are here to create confusion in the masses because of your twisted ideas. An educated person like you, there is no way you believe what you are writing. I am pretty sure you have a house in Asmara or adi-something. It’s rented for 20,000 nakfa a month. So you have nothing to complain about. How can you support a government which confiscates people of their money, however way they amassed it is a different story. If the government has a slice of evidence that the monies were amassed unfairly, then bring the subjects to court and establish a case and then if found guilty, you take their money and put them in jail. But what your uncle IA is doing is trying to put the people under his feet even more. Now business can only withdraw 20,000 nakfa per month and individuals only 5000 nakfa. A lot of families are having difficulties specially in the wedding season. Many people are writing checks to anyone they know and collecting their money that way.

        I can list dozens of topics here for you.

        COIE report. Why doesn’t your regime let the facts speak for themselves instead of forcing individuals to sign petition letters? You know about this so no need to go into details.

        You have heard about wedi hawka Meseret Bahlibi and his sister and his brother? What a shame! You try to silence a dutch professor? Now they even went to court with the Dutch immigration services and lost big time again. These poor young individuals have no say on this. It is Yemane Monkey and his lackeys pushing for this.

        Can you check for me the price of onions and tomatoes in Asmara?

  • Amde

    Dear Awatistas,

    What’s this? No congratulating us on the 120th anniversary of Victory at Adwa?

    Amde

    • Kim Hanna

      Selam Amde,
      .
      Happy Adwa Victory. I hope the AU pass’s a resolution making it an African Holiday.
      .
      Mr. K.H

      • Kokhob Selam

        Dear Ethiopians and Eritreans all African people..all the world who have witnessed fighting against colonialism is humans duty.

        Happy Adwa Victory day, the sign of heroism for freedom.

    • Nitricc

      hey Amde; then was the time when you Ethiopians had the balls, the courage and the tenacity to fight for what is yours and for your dignity. For that; nothing but Respect to your founding fathers. it is shame witnessing the current Shintam generation.

      • Amde

        Hey Nitricc,

        I upvoted you for the respect you indicated to those who fought at Adwa.

        But really, don’t you think the current news from Ethiopia is showing a new generation pushing for change?

        There is this story about Mussolini’s son Bruno, who was an Italian Air Force bomber pilot during the Fascist invasion of 1935, feeling let down when the Ethiopian huts he was bombing didn’t blow up a la Hollywood with flames and large explosions. Just didn’t have the romantic “big bangs” he was lusting for.

        Don’t lust for big bangs. What I consider on balance good things are happening in Ethiopian politics.

        Plus, when did you change your specialization from dentistry (“toothless..”) to urology (“shintam”)?

        Amde

      • Abraham Hanibal

        Hi Nitricc,
        In fact it is we Eritreans today who have to emulate the courage, and tenacity from our neighbors in the south. Even as we speak, Ethiopians are braving live bullets to protect their dignity and rights.It is we who have been reduced to mere slaves by a small group of mafia thugs. Instead of staying the course and putting a resitance against oppression, we’ve chosen to disperse to all corners of the world, leaving behind us ghost towns and villages with defenseless women and children and the elderly. That is what is called a toothless generation.
        Shame on us Eritreans, I mean the majority of us; because there are, of course, those few courageous Eritreans facing and challenging the tyranny.
        And on top of this all, there are those Eritreans who support and condone the suffering of their people under Isayas-this is worse than cowardice.

    • dawit

      Hey A mde ,
      I don’t think you should expect congratulating message from Eritreans. The Adwa battle has two faces, It may be the day of victory for some Ethiopians but it is also the day of national mourning for Eritreans. It was the day when Menelik sealed his Wuchale agreement with colonialist Italy with Eritreans blood. After the so called victory, he chopped the limbs of Eritrean prisoners of war (those soldiers who gave up their hand refusing to kill their Ethiopian brothers on behalf of their Italian colonial masters), while he let Italians soldiers to sail free to their country. After that he retreated back to his Entoto leaving Eritreans to remain under Italian colonial yolk signing another fresh agreement with Italy. That is why Eritrea and Ethiopia cannot be as one country historically, they have separate national history. Aduwa is a symbol of slavery not a victory for Eritreans or even to Ethiopians and the rest of Africans.
      Yes Menelik may have thought won the battle, but Italy won the war, it consolidated its foothold in the African continent. From Eritrea, Italy was able to launch its colonial ambition in Africa. It used the poor Eritreans peasants as cannon feeders, drafting them by force to fight in Libya, Somalia and finally in Abyssinia ‘Ethiopia’ in 1935 to colonize (sorry to occupy it) it for 5 yeas. Today some may think of Aduwa as the war against colonialism but in actuality it was pro colonialism in Africa, in line with the Berlin Agreement signed by European colonialists to butcher the African continent and Menelik was part of the strategy to weaken African kingdoms. Menelik took the fresh arms supplied by Italy and France to destroy, the Southern and Western kingdoms Oromo, the Welaita, the Harar, Somali, Afar, Sidama kingdoms forming his African colonial system. The European colonialists let him do that till the time was ripe for them to claim all of the land that he was gathering. So in 1935 Italy invaded and occupied all the land that Menelik gathered to form its East African Italian Colony. France and Britain accepted it and approved it in 1935 at the League of Nations at Geneva! defying the collective security agreement of member nations. If Mussolini didn’t made a mistake during WWII to join Germany under Hitler, probably the Horn of Africa would have remained as one Italian colony, from Keseala to Mogadishu. So you see my friend A mde, it all depend how you see things, the Oromo youth uprising today could be a continuation of the Battle at Aduwa.
      Cheers
      dawit

      • Amde

        Selam dawit,

        Your first paragraph is a cogent and worthy critique of Menelik and the Battle of Adwa. I applaud you for it, and as Ethiopians it is important we appreciate the full effects of historical events. There are many who fault him for not chasing the Italians out when he had them on the run, and the alternative view is that he was logistically in no position to pursue the war into toady’s Eritrea proper.

        Our esteemed host Saay7 likes to make the point that the Italians were numerically overwhelmed and as such, they were destined to be defeated at Adwa, thereby making the Adwa victory rather pedestrian and a foregone conclusion. But, it was first of all a political victory for Menelik, because amassing such a grand army meant he was able to create a unity of purpose among so many Rases and Kings, all of them his erstwhile rivals, many of them being those he had defeated in battle. And yet they all came with thousands of their soldiers, hundreds of miles away from home. And secondly, it was a logistical miracle, keeping together such a large and diverse army until the decisive battle was won. The military victory is an outcome of the political, logistical and intelligence ground work that had gone into it before a single shot was fired.

        To answer the question as to why Menelik did not pursue the Italians to the sea requires to know what his motives were, and whether he had the means. The third pillar of the “Means”-“Motive”-“Opportunity” triangle assumes that in this case the opportunity was there and it was ripe, but i tend to question that as well. In any case, I am willing to say that if he had been able to chase the Italians to the sea in 1896, he would not be having the Badme standoff today. I just doubt that he really was in position to do so.

        Your second paragraph is frankly mostly conjecture and the last sentence is rather silly. But I understand it is par for the course in making Menelik a co-participant in European colonialism is Africa. Keeping it simple, Menelik – just like any ambitious politician of any era – wanted to maximize power and territory. One takes territory from one’s neighbors, and it just so happened that in his era, his neighbors were not other African kings, but European powers who were just as ambitious to take territory from him. This is a classic example of the cautionary dictum that correlation does not equal causation. Just because his territorial expansion is contemporaneous with those of Europeans, it does not mean he was doing European bidding.

        I don’t know how you are connecting the current Oromo protests with Adwa, but that is quite a reach, and as an Ethio/Eritrean you should know better.

        Amde

        • dawit

          Selam A-mde,

          History of people is a flow of events seem isolated but in realty they are interconnected. Can we imagine what our region would have looked like today if King Tewodros was not sabotaged by Yohannis and took his life when he was surrounded by British soldiers? Do you think the British could have penetrated all the way to Meqdela without their local guide?

          King Yohannis would not have been Emperor of Ethiopia without the arms he received from the British which he used it to invade Eritrean lowlands and Wollo mainly Moslem territories.

          Could Menelik have concurred the vast kingdoms of in the region without the arms he received from Italy and later from France.

          I did not questioned Meneliks’ ability to mobilized the vast majority of the Ethiopian people to protect their country from foreign power to colonize them. I give credit for leaders and the people who put aside their difference to unit against foreign invaders, even though the was initiated by what Menelik signed at Wuchale,Agreement when the Italian tricked him to sign a document selling only Eritrea, but not knowing actually selling the whole Ethiopia as a protectorate of Italy the first stages of colonial strategies. The European colonizers used that trick through out the world, first you become a protectorates the they graduate you to become a colony. ..

          We can sanitize our history to look nice and to feel good, by ignoring the faults that past leaders did. But I don’t think that would help us progress except repealing past mistakes, which we are still doing demonizing our leaders foreign powers didn’t like exchanging our long term common interest for short term personal benefit. The Economists say “There is no such thing as a free lunch”‘ or “Aint no free lunch’.. There is always an opportunity cost you have to pay it now or later.
          A mde, you wrote some of the logistic of the war of maintain a large army to pursue the colonizers. Fine, but you skipped the part I mentioned, how Menelik treated the Eritrean poor askaris and the Italian prisoners of war. Why? What was the reason for such barbaric treatment of chopping limbs to a helpless unarmed prisoner of war?
          dawit

          • Amde

            Selam dawit,

            I would like to correct you when you talk about “the arms he received”. No. Menelik bought these arms as a sovereign fair and square. Those who sold it to him did so out of some combination of avarice and diplomatic interest. The arms trade is such even today.

            I don’t disagree about your characterization of Tewodros and Yohannes, although to be honest I don’t know how they relate to the Victory of Adwa specifically.

            The treatment of the Eritrean Askaris was cruel yes. I feel terrible thinking about the plight of these poor men, who probably at first joined the Askari just for a job. But, once things devolved into the killing business, it was straightforward. The Italians were recognized as alien. The Askari were seen as native born traitors. You tell me how EPLF or ELF treated their respective traitors. Hot oil torture? Isolation? Garroting by wire? Firing squad? The chopping off of limbs was probably meant as both punishment to them and a warning to others. Nowadays, the “punishing” is expressed as lifetime jail sentences, and the “warning” part is better done through the mass media. We are talking about things that happened 120 years ago.

            Amde

          • dawit

            AMDE

            You can not change history it is well documented that Menelik received cash and arms.

            you wrote “I feel terrible thinking about the plight of these poor men, who probably at first joined the Askari just for a job. But, once things devolved into the killing business, it was straightforward. The Italians were recognized as alien. The Askari were seen as native born traitors”.
            Do you think all young boys that perish during Mengisyu’s time in Eritrea, joined just for a job!
            Askaris were native born traitors so they deserve being butchered live! and Italians are white people they should be treated humanly.
            What kind of warning is that for the people who you willing sold for cash and arms? Then you fabricate a story of ELF, EPLF did this and that. Can you support that with evidence?
            Crime is a crime the passage of time cannot wash it out? You want to celebrate the victory of Menelik, 120 years later, but you don’t want to condemen a crime that took 120 years ago!

  • saay7

    Hey Ospite:

    Actually, it perplexes me when people whose house is burning, stick their neck out of the window to point at a house whose pillars are crumbling. I understand when the Isaiasist do it (it is deflection); I don’t get it when those whose priority is supposed to be fighting to restore justice in Eritrea not only do it, but do it to the exclusion of all else. So, once in a while, I find it useful to point out is absurdity.

    saay

  • G. Gebru

    Dear Awetawian,
    Peace and petience.
    This rejoiner is simple story for refreshment.
    ሀደ ጊዜስ ሀደመርአዊ ስርቆት ንንዳህሙ ከይዱ ይብሃል ሀማቱ ድራር አዳልየን ክቅርባሉከለዋ ትራት መሊቁወን ታትምስአበላ ደፋር ሰብአይጋል ህፍርከይበለ አኩሱም ቁረባ ኢልወን ይበሃል።
    ለይቲ ምስጋለን ክነፋነፍ ሀዲሩ ንጉሆምስተስኤ መውረድ ንእዲ ገአት ጊኢተን ከቁርስኦ መቀርሶሚቶ እንዳ ተስመን አብቆፎ ስለዝነበረት ከርክባስለዘይክእልሲ ካብዛቆፎ አውፅአለይ በልኦእሞ ከውፅኢሉ ድንን ክብልከሎ አረጊት ብእራይ ይመስል በቆቅአበለሞ ሀማትከአ ተቅብልአቢለን ወየንበአልቲ አኩሱምስምበር መቃረብቲ ረከባ ኢለንኦ ይብሃል።
    ሰናይ ምንባብ።

  • AMAN

    Awates,
    Greetings,
    I put that because I want a new Nick
    I didn’t or do not want to remain frozen
    with your Frozen politics of 20th century.
    I worked for it to be a new Man; SO I think
    I deserve it.
    But if you insist and do not have problem with
    AMAN;
    OK I will stay with AMAN ! No problem !

    • Nitricc

      Hey Aman lol hahahahahahah
      ” I put that because I want a new Nick I didn’t or do not want to remain frozen with your Frozen politics of 20th century.”
      lol wow!

  • ‘Gheteb

    An Intragalactic Message From The Capital City Of Planeta Abyssinicus To All Uber Drivers: A Satire

    Selam All,

    From: The Capital City Of Planeta Abyssinicus
    To: All Uber Drivers Within Our Galaxy
    Ref: Drivers Urgently And Exigently Needed!

    Dear Uber Drivers Within Our Galaxy,

    The capital city of our planet, Planeta Abyssinicus, Addis Ababa, is seriously in the grip of an ongoing strike by taxi drivers. This taxi strike has brought our capital city to a virtual standstill and has so far inconvenienced the SUBJECTS of our capital city.

    Although we don’t want to see that our subjects in the capital city of our planet aggravated and troubled by the disruption of taxi service, our main concern is the fact that we are acutely aware that it was the taxi drivers strike that brought the rule of King Haileselasie to its knees. What is more, is the fact that we are keenly cognizant that many a inhabitant of Plenata Abyssinicus are misconstruing this strike as the last straw that will break the camel’s back, so to speak. We are intent on nipping that misconstual in the bud.

    We are hereby asking all interested Uber drivers to fill out an application forms in their nearest embassy of our planet. We offer a generous compensation package and a hefty sum of signing bonus. All applicants who hail from Planet Illogic will receive a preferential treatment in the hiring process with room and boarding will be issued gratis.

    With our advanced appreciation,

    Signed by,

    Arekebe Ogbay ( ኣረከበ ዑቅባይ), For The Ruling Party, TPLF

    Mamit Abdelwahid ( ማሚት ጓል ዓብደልዋሒድ ), TPLF representative To Planet Illogic

    • saay7

      Selamat Gheteb:

      It looks like your Memo went on warp speed and missed yesterday’s developments. But before I tell you what that is, consider this scenario:

      Imagine this headline: Taxi-drivers in Eritrea went on a strike.

      What would be the likely outcome? My cousin iSem would say that they would have been mowed down, but I think cousin iSem exaggerates a bit. What would happen is that:

      1. Isaias Afwerki would hide (he hides whenever there is a national crisis)
      2. Yemane Gebreab and his colleagues would conduct a seminar where they would say, “we have our own culture of dealing with such disturbances.”
      3. Then Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals would kick in: a. Pick the target, b. freeze it, c. personalize it, and d. polarize it. Bado Seleste would go on overdrive describing the taxi-drivers as people who are agents of the enemies (CIA, Weyane…) The ring-leaders would be picked up at dawn, arrested, disappear, never to be heard from again. We would be told of their Tigryan ancestry, and of their role during the armed struggle….
      4. The brainless mekhete’s would pass a resolution indicating that they support the actions of the government.

      Now, let’s go to Addis Abeba and see how they dealt with the issue: kick the can down the road for 3 months. Not a great solution, but better than how the PFDJ would have handled an identical situation. So, my cousin, it is not that the Weyane are great (they are terrible); it is that the PFDJ is just as bad: a bit more cruel, and bit more dumb.

      http://www.ebc.et/web/ennews/-/authority-postpones-implementation-of-traffic-security-regulation

      saay

      • Nitricc

        Hey SAAY, I had to double check if the article belongs to you or Semere Andom or Hayat. I don’t know what you are smoking when you said ….
        “Weyane is trying to govern a large, complex, diverse country while dominating power. PFDJ is trying to govern a small, simple, diverse country while dominating power. What is astounding is that PFDJ is failing at faster rate than Weyane”
        What ever you are smoking; please share it, it must be the coooolest stuff. Forget who is falling fast is simple; all you have to do is try to introduce a traffic law in a lawless traffic city. I will estimate an average driver in Addis, NOT taxi driver violates the traffic law three to five a day. There is neither infrastructure nor contingency plan to the law the stupid weyane are trying to introduce. At least have a pedestrian wake area before you can talk about traffic laws. Anyway; unless the reverse the stupid western traffic law they are trying to implement; I see no way out and the situation will get out of hand. Regarding your toothless take about who is more complex society is; if you ask me; it is more complex and extremely difficult to govern the Eritrean people than of entire Ethiopian people. There is a very good reason Eritrea defeated the mighty Ethiopian in 30 years of bloody war.

        • saay7

          Selamat Nitricc:

          This is nice gig you got going on people you disagree with: Tes is always accused of being drunk on wine, Dawit was accusing me of drinking Kool-Aid, and now you are saying I am smoking? Well, I don’t drink or smoke so you are out of luck. Now, how about we deal with the facts as they are, and then how about you answer a question I will pose for you at the end:

          Ethiopia:

          Population: 90 million
          Diversity: 88 language groups
          History: A history of civil war, war lords, pillaging and some animosity among the ruling class
          Experience of Dominant Party (TPLF) in Politics: 1974- present ( 41 years)

          Eritrea:

          Population: 4 million (according to Eritrean Statistics Office)
          Diversity: 9 language groups
          History: No recording history of civil war, war lords, pillaging and animosity in Eritrea among its elite or ruling class
          Experience of Dominant Party (EPLF/PFDJ) in Politics: 1971-present (44 years)

          If these were two companies, one would be considered a large corp and the other would be a mom-and-pop operation.

          Still, the PFDJ has stumbled ever since it was formed in 1994: from one crisis to another, from one war to another, from one sanction to another, from one isolation to another. Under its rule, Eritrea is one of the countries without a constitution, without supreme law, without a succession plan when the current head-of-state croaks (never mind an election); a country where a shocking number of its citizens leave it to go to Ethiopia, among other places.

          Now, then, General, please answer my question: what would happen in Eritrea if the taxi-drivers went on strike?

          saay

          • Nitricc

            Hey SAAY; I know you don’t smoke nor drink; i was just messing with you. anyway; i think we have a different understanding of the situation between the two; EPLF and TPLF. i shall explain tomorrow. you are giving way much credit to the TPLF thugs.

          • Solomon Haile

            Hey Nitric,
            Lets say now that Planet Awatesticus BallLESS is back to normal where Saay7 provides more parameters for the comparing Apples and Oranges to support his treatise… I am still somehow leaning with “He is Honest Honst Honest!!!”
            Hey all of you metroYappies on Planet Awatesticus BallLess:
            “Nanu Nanu” as the Martian greeted all upon his arrival to….
            tSAtSE

          • ‘Gheteb

            Ahlan 2nd Cuz SAAY,

            You say:

            ” now you are saying I am smoking? Well, I don’t drink or smoke so you are out of luck”.

            I am more than 110% sure that you know the expression or rhetorical question, ” What have you been smoking?”.

            What have you been smoking? or What are you smoking?

            ” This is used most commonly as a rhetorical question – it requires no response. When someone says this to someone else, they are implying that the person is acting so strange, or saying such strange things, he or she must be on drugs (marijuana, etc.) The phrase is somewhat playful, and is very, very informal. It should only be used if you’re good friends with someone – otherwise it can seem rude and offensive”.

            A message from the Logical Galaxy to my 2nd Cuz SAAY is to mellow out, lighten up and chill and let the witty, incisive and trenchantly perspicacious SAAY shine and shine and shine!

      • ‘Gheteb

        Ahlan, Ahlan, Ahlan, My Dearest 2nd Cousin SAAY,

        I am convulsing with a cachinnation here. I am rolling in the aisles guffawing with a belly laugh. Pardon my frivolous flippancy here, but I can’t help it as my risibility has skyrocketed.

        You may be wondering what is it in here that is even remotely amusing and humorous, but wonder no more. Here is what is triggering all these hee-haws.

        To start, the piece was a SATIRE and therefore I don’t think the information need to be either accurate or timely. Believe it or not, I knew that the strike was called off ( Now please don’t say that I am lying like all PFDJ do) by the Taxi Union on Wednesday Addis local time*. If you are wondering why I didn’t include it on the post, here are my reasons:

        (a) I don’t believe that the strike is REALLY over because the REAL reasons why the taxi drivers went on strike is NOT addressed yet. I don’t believe that the reason why the taxi drivers went on strike was because of The Road Traffic Safety Directive. That is a pretext and the REAL reason is POLITICAL. And in so far as the political demand is not met and addressed, the Taxi drivers going back on strike is just a matter of time.

        (b) Double-diddly-der-hey! Duh! it is a S.A.T.I.R.E

        What is more, is the fact that these days you are in this mode of not missing anything to revert to what has become your favorite hobbyhorse, Viz., to superfluously interrogate the PFDJ and the GoE. If a Weyane is mentioned you instantaneously bring ShaEbia to the picture. If Peace! says something about women without children, you waste no time to ascribe it to the PFDJ’s “Bahltatna” and ‘Kibritatna”. If ‘Gheteb rants about Shebia ethos, you immediately attribute it to PFDJ’s “Bahltatna” and ‘Kibritatna”.

        Then, here you are taking a flight of fancy and assuming what the outcome would be, if the Eritrea Taxi Drivers were to go on a strike. Do I need to remind you that you are engaging in what is known as “fallacious comparison” or what is commonly known as apples to oranges. Remember that in the Logical Galaxy Weyane is not equal to Shaebia and Eritrea is NOT Ethiopia. In Eritrea fuel prices are going down, well, you know why? and Eritrea’s taxi drivers inhabit quite a different planet known as The Competitive Planet (CP) than Planeta Abyssinicus.

        Finally, you are saying that Planeta Abyssinicus ( Weyane) is better than The Competitive Planet (CP) [PFDJ]. All I will say is :

        Oh, my stars and garters!
        Oh, my stars and garters!
        Oh, my stars and stockings!
        Oh, my stars and stockings!

        P.S. In the Logical Galaxy nothing obviates the acknowledgement of cousinship. I mean nothing is that important to make one forget to acknowledge his cousin even the second ones.

        * — I have read the news in an Ethiomedia news piece and watched both the Ethiomedia video and that from ESAT.

        • saay7

          Hala hala hala Cousin Gheteb II:

          I went to WebMD and I can’t find anything for your cachinnation: is it air-borne? 🙂

          I really did miss that it was satire because in form and content it looks my cuz 2nd’s usual soap box address. (Who is that dude in Keren who was the town crier?)

          As for “lie” “lying”, it is one of my least favorite words* when debating with someone. I am always chastising people to say “your statement is not based on facts”, “you have made a mistake” rather than “you lied” because we don’t know people’s intent. So, I accept your claim that you new the strike was over at face value.

          Now then:

          (a) IF the taxi-drivers issue in Addis was political and had nothing to do with the Road Traffic Safety Directive, AND they were able to diffuse it, you have just unwittingly complimented them:) Again: I invite you to make a comparison with how PFDJ would have dealt with an identical issue.

          (b) What I am doing these days–battling Peace! and Cuz Gheteb–has a simple explanation: time availability. My contribution at this forum ebbs and flows; so it is simply a function of “I got time to deal with this.” I know Peace! and he is a decent guy. In this case, he made a mistake and he keeps shoveling instead of saying, “well, I think I made a mistake.” If you quote Barbara Boxer saying something outrageous (that a woman’s proclivity to war is due to her not having children) and then say, “well, I was just quoting Barbara Boxer”, that is weak because he quoted her for a reason: to support his argument.

          Oh, come on, now, Cousin Cuz. Am I really taking a “flight of fancy” in assuming what PFDJ would do if there were a Taxi Drivers Strike? How did it deal with the Tegadelti strike of 1993? Of disable veterans in 1994? Of university students in 2001? You don’t have to mystify things by creating planets (Competitive, Abyssinicus) when your neighborhood Google is open 24.7.

          Of all the satirical things you said, the most satirical is the one that you don’t even know it is: that you consider your position as inhabiting the Logical Galaxy. This is only if it is “b’antsar day” where people use 16th century English expressions of stars, garters and stockings:)

          Cousins forever.

          saay

          * One Big Exception: I believe that the PFDJ considers lying a noble thing to do, so long as it is patriotic. All is thing in love and war and we are in perpetual war. I refer you to the statement FM Osman Saleh gave to the HRC.

          • Amde

            Selam Saay7,

            I was in Addis in February, and had the opportunity to ride minivan taxis. And listen in to Taxi driver conversations while waiting for the taxi to fill.

            A) Complaint about the proposed traffic safety point system was real and palpable. They (the drivers) felt the point system was aggressive and not workable.
            B) Passenger complaints were just as vivid. One trip ended with Every Last Passenger yelling at the driver on exit, every lady making it a point to give a piece of her mind as to the drivers recklessness and wanton disregard for safety. It really was a hilarious sight, made even more so by the utter disregard the driver had to these civic minded unsolicited advice.
            C) Are there political causes specific to the taxi fleet? I don’t know. The taxi fleet in Addis is now a mix of Addis registered blue taxis, and Oromia registered white taxis, all driving like maniacs. If there were erstwhile political causes, i did not see it.
            D) Just as a natural result of any regulation, the result of tightened penalties such as the proposed point system, will inevitably drive up the bribe traffic police can collect. Everybody is aware of this.

            Amde

          • saay7

            Selam Amde:

            Karl Marx conclusively demonstrated the economy and politics are Siamese twins; you cant talk about one without talking about the other. Now, even capitalists who reject Marxism accept Marx premise and, indeed, most of the vocabulary of economics owes its roots to Marx.

            This is a long way of saying that I get puzzled when people who are steeped in Marxism, like the gov of Eritrea and its fellow-travellers, try to create a distinction between the two. For example, the massive Eritrean exodus is defined by the Eritrean government as “economic migration.” Well, what is the political environment that created the economic collapse in Eritrea that lead to economic migrants? 🙂

            In this particular case, Cousin Gheteb was trying to show (his sources are the unimpeachable E-SAT) that the taxi drivers were protesting political persecution.

            saay

          • Eyob Medhane

            Amde,

            Oh my God! Don’t get me started with the meniac minibus drivers of Addis. I was there for 15 days and I had only one day that I hopped on them, my hair stood. Having said that, I supported their union stand that the unbelievably tight regulation imposed on them without almost no check on the power of the traffic police. As well as, as you mentioned on another thread, those radicules 22 side walks…I actually have taken a picture of them. Have you also seen those free (blue sky color) government workers buses? They are worse. Between them, the Lada taxis, the minibuses and the Oromia mini vans the choetic rush hour needs some serious order. I actually was impressed the way their union handled the strike. They did not allow their issue to be hijacked and they swiftly negotiated with the government and got back to work.

            Sal, please tell your friends that the next time there is a strike in Asmara how to deal and defuse it.. 😉

          • saay7

            Selamat Eyob:

            So the way to diffuse an issue is to buy yourself a little time?

            That works only if within the time you catch up to the can you kicked, you have a solution. Sometimes governments forget like your Harbeyna Weyanai did with the Addis Master Plan creating a crisis in 2014 AND 2015.

            What I was saying is your gov way of dealing with civil disobedience is bad, that of the PFDJ is worse. So if your standard is PFDJ, go ahead and celebrate. If you want to aim a little higher (say, South Africa) then you can see improvement.

            Happy Large Number Of Well Armed Ethiopians Defeat A Small Size Of Italians Day 🙂

            saay

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam saay,
            .
            Thanks for the well wishes, sort of.
            .
            ” What I was saying is your gov way of dealing with civil disobedience is bad, that of PFDJ is worse”
            .
            I do take the criticism to heart, though with a slight deviation. I hope you would suggest or draw a road map to extend and maintain the current tremendous progress that is being made on the ground. I don’t know what South Africa is doing.
            .
            I think the Ethiopian Gov. do need to behave in a more firm way than what they have done in the recent past.
            It is my opinion, people listen more attentively when the authority is firm and swift. To give in after every strike means to invite more. After a while the more and more disobedience becomes a routine which inevitably leads to jump from crisis to crisis. The general population loses confidence in their Government in the process. The external and internal enemies will love it. All kinds of invisible and visible hands will show up to distribute encouragement and cash until it catches a fire.
            .
            Being firm and swift by no means is gunning down unarmed demonstrators. What has happened in Oromia and the finger pointing that followed is a shameful exercise.These things people demonstrate about did not happen overnight. The space and time to organize such events happened under their noses.
            .
            My main point is:
            The 1st and effective method to address and solve these issues is way before they become issues.
            .
            My main concern is the respect for the Law and respect for the Government must not be watered down. Otherwise these incidents will snowball and eventually become hard to manage. Still further down it will encourage and force a General or Generals wanting to solve the problem. At that moment what we all feared is ushered in, the big intractable problem back to square one.
            .
            I wish that Addis was here, I know he will have a different view. At this moment it is only a concern, others might have a different approach about the subject. I am all ears.
            .
            Mr. K.H

          • saay7

            Selam Mr K.H.

            That “happy…” twist on the Battle of Adwa is an ancient inside joke with my buddy Eyob. I took a break this year so he can give a break to an Eitrean baker he mentions every year at least once. Don’t remind him.

            On the way forward on how Ethiopia can deal better with civil disobedience. One modest suggestion: don’t use live bullets. Try rubber bullets. Don’t use snipers. Don’t grossly undercount numbers because you are mad that the opposition overcounted. Don’t say an investigation is underway and then do nothing to assure people the investigation is independent and that it will be done on time. Also fire people like Getachew Reda with their poison tongue that adds fuel to the fire.

            Abi is back; he will fill in the rest.

            saay

          • Fanti Ghana

            Hello Brother Saay,

            You took the “don’t use live bullet” from my keyboard. I was just replying to KH with it. So, the following was meant for Mr. K.H, but you got in my firing line.

            Hello Mr. K.H,

            – Peaceful and legal protest should be encouraged.
            – Malicious individuals and organizations that embed themselves with these legal protests should be ‘weeded out.’
            – Live bullets should never be used to diffuse any demonstration.
            – Reporter reported today that two OPDO high officials have been removed from their posts for the poor handling of the recent Oromia crisis.
            – This is a learning curve for the government and the people alike.
            – Notice how even all of us at Awate Univ. are reacting to this demonstrations as if the world is falling apart.

          • Eyob Medhane

            Sal,

            Don’t get me started with your “Eritrean Baker”. One of the things that took my smile away, when I was in Addis that I went to Piazza and that damn building Gebretinsae Tedla building is still there. They tore down so many buildings and I don’t understand why they spared that one.. 🙂

            The time that was given to the Taxi drivers (90 days) is to discuss the new regulation and to solicit their suggestion. You don’t get a argument with me that 1) the time frame is too short. 2)the proposed law is too damn tight to the point of being so radicules. There must be a better way to deal with the Taxi union. It is one of the strongest and well organized unions in Ethiopia that actually represents a very close knit young urban residents of Addis. They better deal with it carefully.

            The “investigation” is actually is being conducted. I will be forwarding the name of the “chief investigator”, if you want. His name is Daniel Gebreegziaber, who “thoroughly investigated” election 2015 malpractices and found “no major problem” with them. He is a charman of Ethiopian Human rights Council. There you have it. Just have patience for his report.. (You Habeshas. Tichekulalachihu 🙂 )

            Getachew Reda is a nice fellow leave him alone. Tedros Adhanom? Meh… A bit weak. We happen to think that his Asmara upbringing has softened him a lot.. 🙂

            Adwa.. This year actually it felt like we wan the war last weekend. It was celebrated like never before. With the live TV coverage both from Adwa and of course Menilik Square, Giorgis Cathedral.. Eat your heart out… 🙂

          • Abi

            Hi Eyobe
            Next year we celebrate Adwa from Asmara. Godana Harinet will be decorated with Emye Menelik picture wrapped in Ethiopian flag… You know who is playing saxophone on this special day?

          • saay7

            Hey Eyob:

            Uggg, you are still talking ill about a man who has passed away. How very “un-Habesha” of you.

            When you put the phrase “thoroughly investigated” and “no major problem” in quotes, was that you using scare-quotes or you actually quoting. And don’t just point me to the name of the chief investigator; its website will do. The EHRC can’t possibly be the one that was around in the mid 1990s:)

            On Getachew Reda and Tedros Adhanom…here they are, back to back from the last debate. And well only one of them says “ኣንዳንድ የ ግንዛቤ ችግር ያለባቸው ወገኖች”:) The body language, um, I don’t think it is his fault: he is just wired that way. He has a face fit for print journalism. Some people even call me arrogant simply because my nose flares a certain way (without my approval) when I speak:))

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x87sWCbDDRI

            Speaking about celebration, you know May 24th is coming: it is the 25th anniversary of Eritrea’s independence form Ethiopia. Abi calls it Ethiopia’s Independence Day from Eritrea:)

            saay

          • Amde

            Selam Eyob,

            You know, you mentioned the free blue sky government worker buses. Would they be the ones that say “ፕብሊክ ትራንስፖርት” on them? The ones that have English words written with Amharic fidel?

            Everytime I see them I don’t know if I should cry or laugh. This is obviously written for that narrow demographic who has sufficient English fluency to know the meaning of “Public Transport”, but can only read their English in Ge’ez characters. It makes me want to explore alternative history where our writing scheme finds its place among the Germans and the Dutch, the English and the Scots.

            I felt the Taxi regulations proposal was rather tight, and seeing as to how many young men were in the taxi driving business, it WILL result in political issues if it ends up driving many out of gainful employment. Or, it becomes as a new source of neverending illegitimate revenue for the traffic cops, which WILL eventually become a political issue.

            I think it was Fanti who talked about the sidewalks around 22 mazoria. But I did pass by it, both in the new train and driving. The thing is, several years ago before there was any railway line, I distinctly remember having a conversation about the fact that all these shiny new buildings were being built so close to the road with little regard for pedestrian traffic or parking. At the time, we generally concluded it was a result of the ridiculous land lease prices, which incentivised lease holders to maximize constructed land. And of course, weak regulatory oversight.

            Since the train system is an after the fact, it is not surprising the sidewalk is what gets consumed to accommodate the new roundabout and side road/ramps (still not completed by the way). The situation beyond Megenagna is much much better, well thought out. In any case, the sidewalk issue reminds me of this graphic….
            http://images.greatergreaterwashington.org/images/201411/tingvall.jpg

            Amde

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear Saay,

            When you are at your best position, it is amazing, not because the facts are at your side only, but it is how you manipulate the facts in your possession to make your opponents a laughing stock.

            I am really enjoying when you hit the empty bravado of some PFDJites, who think playing with latin words enhances to their contentless argument breft of common sense. Keep up please to give the free lessons, even if they dont acknowledge the lesson are surely received.

            Besides, they are unable to answer the logical question you ask them, because it is understood what will be the fate of the taxi driver if they make a strike.
            regards
            Amanuel Hidrat

      • Solomon Haile

        Mr. Syllogism I presume:
        Are you still around?
        An old Sean Connery was playing on analog TV in a room I happen to walk in too. The “Hay Wakari Mashta” folks kept on calling on him “Sero Sero”….
        ” Weyane is trying to govern a large, complex, diverse country while dominating power. PFDJ is trying to govern a small, simple, diverse country while dominating power. What is astounding is that PFDJ is failing at faster rate than Weyane.”
        Then would it also be true to state:
        Ethiopians are trying to bring to LIGHT a large, complex…. while being dominating/dominated. Ertitreans are trying bring to LIGHT a small, .. simple…. while dominating/dominated. What is astounding is that Eritrea is Shining/Fading at a faster rate than Ethiopia.
        I am looking forward to another spreadsheet with more parameters and indexes: Oh wait: you bring the delegates for independent measurement instruments. Perhaps we can utilize EU funds???
        tSAtSE

    • Peace!

      Selam ‘Gheteb,

      Go slow please! We are not fully equipped to treat a heart attack here. Well, not only the ongoing strike, but also the security situation of transportation in general has been slowly deteriorating as a result of the on going uprising: the TPLF owned Selam Bus corporation is now totally banned from giving service to and from
      Oromia region or face burn-down. It changed its name to Ethio Bus to deceive protestors, but it was not successful. No major transportation service to and from largest portion of the country.

      Peace!

  • Haile WM

    selamat,

    I am somehow worried and at the same time amused by the many comments pro-against war and pro-against PFDJ and the combination of the above. Basically we can draw a semiotic map of the Eritrean divide starting from the extreme wholeheartedly supporters of regime to end up with those equally extreme “by any means we have to get rid of PFDJ” type of opposition.

    • Group A pro war and pro PFDJ, the “let them come… we will crush them this time” people, who still believe PFDJ is all capable with all-mighty army (delusional people).

    • Group B pro war and against PFDJ, Group B we find two categories of the many kind of oppositions

    1) the naive opposition groups who believe in the genuine nature of the help that comes from woyane and expect or wish that a war with PFDJ led Eritrea will be the end of PFDJ and somehow will bring the much needed change in Eritrea (I call them the optimistic).

    2) the opportunists, whose daydream is getting rid of Iseyas without winning the consensus of the Eritreans, just waiting to jump on the first occasion to replace in deeds PFDJ’s regime or worse (I call them the cutthroats).

    • Group C against war and pro PFDJ, we find those who support the regime but do not want war for various reasons. Starting from those who realistically think PFDJ led Eritrea can’t even retaliate Ethiopian intervention (like those in 2012) let alone enter a full-fledged war against them but still side with the regime because of their petty interests like a villa or summer time vacation time. Those who know the reality in the ground but are part of the regime and its affiliates (the opportunists).

    • Group D (in which I place myself) are those who are against war and against PFDJ. If the war breaks out this people are those who will be at odds:

    1. Some people believe “hager leili kulu” we are against PFDJ in times of peace but if a war breaks out we will be forced to defend our nation even-though we abhor the idea of war and temporarily side with PFDJ (“bzey hager yelen kibret” kind of people)

    2. Some other will be at odds with every Ethiopian and Eritrean for in times of war those who suffer the most are those who can’t help it and cannot stand both of the warring faction, at the same time they are not neutral to the war

    The main culprit of the fragmentation is off course PFDJ, who at the expense of national unity chose to strengthen its power. Now ahead of testing times it is expecting unity to defend the nation it, in first hand, has divided for its narrow agenda.

    On Ethiopian side, I believe, they see PFDJ led Eritrea as an easy prey. They won 100 % in their elections (better than Saddam Hussein’s rate of wins which were around 98 % and he was a dictator…) yet still they need a common enemy to solve internal problems. Nevertheless, it is a gamble. War is always brilliant and easy in the generals table. The reality on the ground can be very different and for sure, those who will suffer are the people of both nations.

    • Nitricc

      Hey Haile WM; what up? long time. I like your take for the most part but you seem to lose it when you said the following….
      “Group A pro war and pro PFDJ, the “let them come… we will crush them this time” people, who still believe PFDJ is all capable with all-mighty army (delusional people).”
      I am afraid that you are among the delusional people; because Eritrea is way stronger militarily than the TPLF controlled Ethiopian army. if war to break out; as correctly you stated it; Eritreans will come together to defend the nation while in Ethiopia is the opposite is the truth. if you are Oromo soldier; would fight for the Weyane? if you are Amhara would fight for the Weyne? you get my drift.

      • Haile WM

        hi there Nitricc,

        I don’t know how you assessed Ethiopian army, and I am not sure whether you have an idea of the current state of the army in Eritrea or not. One thing I see for sure is the fragmentation within Eritrean people about PFDJ vs an Ethiopian aggression.

        To tell you frankly i am not worried about Amhara, Oromo and other ethnicity fighting for woyane or not, that is not my business, nobody can actually foresight that. DEMHIT who are tigrayan are against woyane, Hailemariam Desalegn who is Sidama is constantly threatening to take measures against PFDJ led Eritrea. there is no simple equation woyane Vs Amhara or Oromo. Many amhara are daydreaming about taking assab by war, could they fight along side woyane ?
        I hope you see what i mean, there is no easy equation on the subject. we as Eritreans should be cautious about war as we have suffered greatly from it, the same should be with Ethiopians that is all i hope and pray.

  • Kokhob Selam

    Dear AMAN,
    I see it differently, awate team is fulfilling it’s objectives and is doing fine. see how we are discussing and debating! where in Eritrea can you find such wonderful site? I think what you and me sure make sure is our own stands clear.
    are we and you up to the development? I am afraid we are not. Let us make inventory sometime. how much distance we have grown since we start reading and posting our views in awate? do we do better every time, are evaluating at your own work? thank you AMAN.

  • Kokhob Selam

    Dear New Man or AMAN,

    Well, all those who sacrifices have families and relatives. one hero have mother father sister and brother and also wife and children so every death affects everyone else. as I always say we are connected. but don’t expect everybody to have the same feeling and thinking and stand in one circumstance. Tegadalay, is the man who voluntarily sacrifice his all belongings and his world for others to live in peace and freedom. it is a love that can’t be described and explained by words. He never ask something in return, he simply banish for you and me. the problem will be when you and me don’t use the freedom that he thought is worth full sacrifice. worst and the crime will be even when you manipulate it – the problem will be when you have PFDJ on the top – is that worth ? the answer will depend on you and me he has done his duty.

    I support the idea of showing courage to admit that what ever we do, none of us will surpass the Novel did of our heroes, but we have to do what we can do. remember even between Tegadelties there is stages…one is just Tegadaly but the other is Teqalasay, again one can live better than you and me in normal life but still comes to fight for his people. one at one time my pull but the other continuous till his death. We have still alive heroes who never give up for more than 45 years fighting against dictators of our nation and some even born, participate but are serving pfdj today. So Tegadalay don’t expect in return and it is okay for you to be proud and defend by standing with him without regretting the past. If today IA comes down to people and changes everything or hand over all the power peacefully heroes will still accept his resignation – in short results are for common good heroes are already the representatives of the mass – are the mass- are no more moving in body covered vehicle but have already joined the ultimate truth. they are in heaven. tks

  • T..T.

    Hi Hayat Adem,

    Don’t be deceived into the Isayasists’ strategies. As they say, political crooks and deceivers always play with the words “can’ and ‘want’ in that they attack you when they can and befriend you when they cannot make a war or want your help.

    Stand on your ground and know that we all freely express our positions:
    When political situations demand to express our stands at times like the current border tension and it is usual to describe the situation in hawkish or dovish form. There is no fear, the opposition’s position is defined by the past lessons learned and as such war(s) must be avoided at any cost in accordance with the opposition’s dovish stands.

    The hawkish Isayasists cannot put hawkish language in the opposition members’ mouth in the name of defending the nation, when indeed the cause of the threats is the warmonger Isu. In countering the Isayasists’ demand, the opposition can demand for support in the name of saving the people, in line with which it is healthy to suggest surgical removal of the cause in order to remove the threats of the war.

  • Dis Donc

    Dear Awate et al.

    The annual list of powerful passports is out and as expected Germany stands numero uno. With them being able to move through 177 countries without a visa. The US, Belgic, Holland, and Denmark sit on 4th. If you ask where your beloved Ethiopia and Eritrea stand? They share the same place as 98th; along with Iran, Nepal, Palestine, and Sudan; only beating 99 – Libia; 100 – Siria; 101 – Somalia; 102 – Irak; 103 – Pakistán; 104 – Afganistán. We made no progress, at all.

    If you can read Spanish the whole list is below from the link.

    http://www.abc.es/viajar/noticias/abci-pasaportes-mas-poderosos-mundo-201603012200_noticia.html

  • dawit

    Ababuu,
    Not only saint but I have also said Jesus Christ! Now mamush take your bottle of milk and sleep or hung yourself at Entoto Mountain!

  • Hope

    Aynom
    Being indifferent the way U said it like Pontius Pilate did to Jesus ….
    ” I found this Man to be NOT guilty and I am washing my hands off but you people ,it is your call to judge Him”!
    And Pilatos let Jesus to be tortired to death!
    And you are doing the same thing to the most Innocent people under the Sun-the ERITREANS!
    This perfectly exposed your ID and your EVILness!

    • Aman

      Greetings
      You know what Hope ?
      I said that on purpose at that time expecting a reply
      But a reply never came on time untill another new
      incident or development came across.
      So if we were communicating freely and openly; why
      didn’t reply or respond on time and why held back or

      hold it until several days later and bring it back suddenly
      when talking a different topic ?
      I SEE SOME DISHONESTY AND PARALLELING HERE

      Just as if only spying or using someone here as a prey !
      Was it meant to set up somebody and use him/her as a
      scapegoat for all sins ?

  • Dis Donc

    Mista AMAN,

    Ah. You broke my heart. Off I go to look for Jo Jo, then.

  • Ted

    Hi Ayneta;
    I find your worries to be misplaced. Regardless what happened to IA, It is Interesting how you avoided to explain or care what this wounded animals would do to your beloved country if they ever succeed. Any idea? or be happy IA be gone by whatever means. We are still waiting from our resident war General, Hayat Adam, to explain how the “surgical intervention” can be executed.

  • Hayat Adem

    Hi show,
    I am many times misunderstood or misrepresented and let it go. But this one from you is too much. I would never wish to see bullets being fire to the air let alone on people, and let alone on children. The only bullet I have come to welcome, and that is also with heavy heart is on the rogue leadership of PFDJ. And that is not even for the sake of putting them out of action but to enhance the political struggle for change. Why would you associate me with the crazy criminal IA while my wish for him to expire sooner than later? The reason why we are talking about war because IA has abducted some Ethiopians. The sooner this man is gone, the better chance of a positive space for peace and normalization. Otherwise, as long as IA is there, war will always be a looming danger. In short, my feeling was hurt when I saw you likening me to this bad person. I’m nothing like him. And if you read my my previous comments I already voiced my disapproval to the currently rumored military stand off, to the talk of another war and any escalation thereof. It was awatistas like sara, dawit, hope, peace and the like happily drumming up for it. sara, in fact said, a vip treatment is in order. I am totally against war between the two armies, involving an out war on populated territories, localities and villages. Now that you know my view on this, tell me if you have anything to say on what I said. If you want PFDJ to go, obviously it will not go by doing nothing. If you want PFDJ to reform or change and improve, well how many more years do you want to give them? How much more political support do you want to commit for them? Or how else? In the mean time how many children are they letting perish on the routes and in the refugees and inside Eritrea? Haven’t you heard about those tragedies? How many people are locked in the 381 dungeons they built without no word or visitation from their families. Due process of law is a luxury in PFDJ’s Eritrea. If it is IA you are against, I’m too. If it is war you are against, I’m too. But I also realize some are pretentious on hating Isaias only because they think it sounds foolish to support and defend him in the open at this time. The not less foolish approach is lumping him with his critiques, like me, and condemning them together. Instead of holding this man close to the microscope and describe him exactly the he needs to be for his layers of crimes, the tactical preference by his introvert supporters appears to be to give him someone to die or be demonized with. For you to single out hayat, lamek and tes to liken them with IA,is nothing but a pretentious protection of IA. You have done your part in your own way.
    .

    • Kokhob Selam

      Dear Hayata,
      really! all this explanation for show’s post? you could have asked one question like, where did I say I want to see the young Eritrean and Ethiopian kill each other? Now, he may use the post you reply to sister Sara and he will come -twisting phrases as usual and here we readers will put show in ICU like what happened to others..he will not even know that, people are watching him near death in coma.

      • Nitricc

        Hi Kokhob; since when did you become so disrespectful? what do you mean when you said ” really! all this explanation for show’s post?”
        are you saying show does not deserve a replay from Hayat? shame on you! what is wrong with you people? aren’t you a little old to kiss up Hayat’s batt. sham!!!!!!

        • Kokhob Selam

          Dear Nitricc,
          No sir, I didn’t say he don’t deserve reply. read it. I only said she don’t have to spend her golden time to explain to him to that length. She didn’t say at all and he said she said so and so and it is just simple, one line reply that can end the view.

          by the way I never heard this type of sentence ..”kissing bat ” what is that? are those young PFDJistas kissing the batt of their NHNA NSU ladies? in my camp both young and old are respectful … ኣብዚኣስ ፋራታት ኢና::

          My queen deserve a lot of respect for her bold stand against killers.

    • Nitricc

      Hi Hayat Adam; you seem not to learn from history. hahahahhah
      you said ” The only bullet I have come to welcome…………………. is on the rogue leadership of PFDJ”
      really, Hayat?
      The last time you slap the people of Eritrea on the face when you said, ” with out the help of TPLF there is no Eritrean independence. in fact the truth is the other way around. Then, you danced at the rumored death of PIA and the angle of death took your midget for ever. if that is not enough you declared imminent civil war in Eritrea; in fact the civil war you wished for the people of Eritrea is upon your country and the Oromo are up to snap your head from your body. then you wished a surgical attack on Eritrea by your back ward weyane, well, just wait and see, you have no idea what Egypt has in store for you, talk about surgical?
      now you are welcoming a bullet on the leadership of PFDJ lol why do i have this feeling once more your entire stupid leadership is about to go down like no other in history.
      my point is please stop wishing bad thing to Eritrea because it is ending up on your people and country, stop it.

    • Semere Tesfai

      Selam Hayat

      Always typical you (Woyanit): always speaking with forked tongue, always misleading and always deceptive.

      You said

      1. – ” I would never wish to see bullets being fired to the air let alone on people” and at the same breath you said – “The reason why we are talking about war now is because IA has abducted some Ethiopians” but – “I am totally against war between the two armies, involving an all out war on POPULATED TERRITORIES”

      2.- ” If you read my my previous comments I already voiced my disapproval to the currently rumored military stand off. It was awatistas like sara, dawit, hope, peace and the like happily drumming up for it” – and at the same breath you said – “If you want PFDJ to go, obviously it will not go by doing nothing” meaning bloodshed is a must.

      Hayat: it is your Woyane that has become, thorn in the flesh to the whole people of the Horn Region. If you want peace to reign in the Horn region, leave your neighbors alone, and get out of their sovereign territories.

      Please stay on your side of the fence and mind your own business; and let the people of the Horn Region mind their own. No matter how long it take, regime change (getting rid of PFDJ) is the business of the Eritrean people.

      Semere Tesfai

      • Hayat Adem

        Selamat Semere T.,
        you will never catch me lying, because i don’t; you will never catching me contradicting my self, because i don’t; you will never catch me judging people on their identities because i only focus on their views. the only reason you don’t find inconsistency and contradictions in my comments is not because i work hard to make them consistent but because they all come from a principled position, which in turn comes from one line of thinking.
        hayat

        • T..T.

          Hi Hayat Adem,

          When political situations demand the Eritrean opposition members to express their stands at time like the current border tension, it is usual to describe the situation in hawkish or dovish form. There is no fear, the opposition’s position is defined by the past lessons learned and as such war(s) must be avoided at any cost in accordance with the opposition’s dovish stands.

          The hawkish Isayasists cannot put hawkish language in the opposition members’ mouth in the name of defending the nation, when indeed the cause of the threats is the warmonger Isu. In countering the Isayasists’ demand, the opposition can demand for support in the name of saving the people, in line with which it is healthy to suggest surgical removal of the cause in order to remove the threats of the war.

        • Semere Tesfai

          Selam Hayat

          If you want Eritreans and Ethiopians to leave in peace, if you want Eritreans and Ethiopians to prosper, if you want Eritreans and Ethiopians to live like Canadians and Americans……respect Eritrean sovereignty, respect Eritrean territorial integrity, respect the judgement of the Eritrean people to decide for themselves when and how to change their government.

          It is non of Addis regime’s business to tell Eritreans what government is good for them.

          You can’t point your gun at Eritreans and expect them to love you. You can’t conspire each day against Eritreans – to starve them, to kill their children through sanction, to deny them business investment, to isolate them, to marginalize them, to weaken them……. and at the same time expect them to be your friends and your closest ally. It’s not going to happen.

          Stop your crocodile tears of caring for the suffering of Eritreans. Yes, we Eritreans are very naive and trusting people, but we’re not stupid. We can identify a friend from a mile when we see one.

          Please understand: no matter what fancy adjective is given to it (surgical or what have you), the last thing Eritreans want is, Ethiopian boots on Eritrean ground (round two).

          Keep your democracy to yourself.

          Semere Tesfai

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Semere,

            It is difficult to see you labeling an Eritrean as Weyane just he or she has different view. everybody is proud for he is and there is nothing wrong to say I am an Ethiopian if she is. I wish you don’t put a tag. please leave this to those who don’t use logic in debating and are hopeless in convincing.

            Now, Ethiopians will not care about regime change and are busy with their own internal affairs. What makes them upset with PFDJ is because PFDJ is working against them. what could have you done if you are in their place? I hope you will not tell me PFDJ is not interfering. you know very well the nature of this corrupted group. we all know and history has recorded a lot. even they interfere in between families and one family. We all want not to see war but then we can’t say to Ethiopian government just watch when PFDJ dismantle their nation. our duty is to see our internal problem and solve it. if you have a son who disturb you and your village, you will not fight with others but first arrest your son, teach your son do all your best to make well disciplined man.

            Dear Semere, are we still going to talk about Badme? aren’t you the witness (first hand) that this was left for Sha’ebia to Weyane? aren’t you the witness when the war broke between TPLF and ELF on the same place where ELF push them to Tekeze. Badme case is the result of wrong way of solving conflicts within Eritrea and it is going to be solved when our own problem is solved. are you going to say it is legally an Eritrean land? Let the legal land of Eritrea receive it legal government of Eritrea, is that okay? in fact the entire Eritrea is under Illegal group and it is in dangerous era.

            Take my challenge to you and all who keep crying for Badme, Badme will never be handed over to PFDJ. Never, only the removal PFDJ will solve the problem. UN knows and the entire world knows that unless we remove PFDJ we will never have peace and freedom. tell me now what are you going to do or am I going to do about Badme if Ethiopians will never hand over to PFDJ? Fight against EPRDF? እነሆ ፈረስ እንሆ ሜዳ – it is a man with broken hand, lost eyes, who even don’t care his kids life -fighting against a a huge healthy man. when you are healthy and strong, brave but respectful the huge gentle man will keep his dignity.

          • Semere Tesfai

            Selam Kokhobay

            Thank you for engaging with a positive tone. Let me respond in kind.

            1. – You said: “You’re labeling an Eritrean (Hayat Adem) as Weyane just because she has different view.”
            No sir. In this forum, I’ve debated with people who happen to have an opinion180 degree from mine – and never called them Woyane. I know for sure Hayat is a Tigrayan. The proof: she said a lot. And when you talk a lot, you leave a lot of foot prints behind. When you leave a lot of foot prints behind, you’ll be profiled – and – your age, your gender, your ethnic identity, your political affiliation will be known to the whole world. Let me explain:

            Eritrean Tigrigna language was perfected in the Eritrean Field. Those of us who grew-up in Eritrea, we can identify a person with pinpoint accuracy whether that person is – Eritrean or non Eritrean, Eritrean Ghebar or Eritrean Tegadalay, Eritrean Ghebar who lived mostly in Eritrea or Eritrean Ghebar who lived mostly in Ethiopia, Eritrean Ghebar who lived mostly in the Middle East or Eritrean Ghebar who lived mostly in the West, Tegadalay ShaEbya or Tegadalay Jebha, Eritrean from Ethnic Tigrigna or an Eritrean Tigrigna as his/her second language (spare those who grew-up in big towns)…….. Hayat made a mistake a long, long, long time ago. She wrote paragraph after paragraph in Tigrigna (which she will never do again). And that did it.

            Imagine me (Semere Tesfai), claiming to be Zewditu Bekele an Amara Ethiopian and writing in Amharic. Now tell me: how long do you think, Eyob Medhane, Kaddis, Abi, TK…..will take’m to say – yeah right? Exactly; that’s my point.

            2. – About Hayat’s opinion: I don’t have any problem with here opinion. Many Eritreans in this forum share here opinion including you (correct me if I’m wrong). I just can’t stand her insulting our intelligence (claiming to be Eritrean).

            3. – You said “Ethiopians will not care about regime change and are busy with their own internal affairs. What makes them upset with PFDJ is because PFDJ is working against them. what could have you done if you are in their place?”

            First, if I were you, I wouldn’t speak on behalf of the Woyane dominated Addis regime; because you don’t know what is “making them upset”. But, let me think: when was the last time an Ethiopian head of state threatened with regime change? I think it was last week. Isn’t it?

            And in a normal Eritrean political competition, when a foreign government threatens your country, you put your political difference aside and defend your country. It is that simple. If Addis regimes want to be Eritrea friendly (not PFDJ friendly), first they have to pack and leave from sovereign Eritrean territories and stop singing regime change (invading Eritrea) every other day. And I don’t believe that is to much to ask.

            4. You said: “Badme case is the result of wrong way of solving conflicts within Eritrea and it is going to be solved when our own problem is solved. are you going to say it is legally an Eritrean land?”

            I hope your opinion doesn’t represent the opinion of the Eritrean opposition. Again, I don’t know why you’re trusting the Woyanes, I don’t know what promise of the Woyane made you believe “the issue of Badme is going to be solved after our problem is solved” – I suppose after PFDJ is removed. But anyway, whether PFDJ is legal or illegal, whether PFDJ was/is there or not there, Badme was sovereign Eritrean territory before 1998, Badme is sovereign Eritrean territory today, and Badme will remain sovereign Eritrean territory for ever. You can take that to the bank.

            5. – You said: “tell me now what are you going to do or am I going to do about Badme if Ethiopians will never hand over to PFDJ?”

            There won’t be any normal relation with a hostile neighbor who occupy our land. And we will fight them to get our land back siding with people and governments of the region who share our policy. And that is not new; you know it; and they know it.

            Semere Tesfai

          • Dear Semere Tesfai.

            Your last sentence, “And we will fight them to get our land back siding with people and governments of the region who share our policy. And that is not new; you know it; and they know it.”, tells volumes about your Gedli and the PFDJ, despite the myths of against all odds and Eritrean revolution was purely Eritrean with no help from anywhere else (especially Arab nations). Eritrea’s participation without any reservation in the Islamic Military Alliance under the Saudi leadership is therefore part of EPLF/PFDJ’s plan to bring an Armageddon to the region, to kill and die like a suicide bomber. May be you have thought of how you would begin it, but not how you would finish it, and at the end of which who would be around to tell the story.

            We are tired of your friends (die-hard PFDJ supporters) who are obsessed with counting the number of fighter aircrafts, tanks, artillery and the number of armed personnel your Arab friends have at their disposal, as if they belong to the PFDJ. If it is to intimidate Ethiopia, it won’t do the job. If you people have lost all rationality for the sake of a piece of land many say was given to TPLF as a gift for the service it gave to EPLF, and was not an issue until 1998, because TPLF was serving EPLF’s interests within Ethiopia, and was latter forced to kick them out, because they were dangerous not only to enemies but also to friends, it shows how much you have abandon the Eritrean people for the sake of a dictator. The bitter truth is that Badme is the ace up in your sleeve, which you believe will help you force your dictatorial rule forever upon the Eritrean people.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Horizon,

            Please don ‘t go and scratch old wounds of the 70s and 80s. Of course after kicking ELF by the joint force of EPLF/TPLF from badume and its environs, Badume was left under the custodian of TPLF from 1981 to 1998 the senseless war by all measurement. Why do you think EPLF left it for TPLF to administer it? Historian will dig out the secrets of their agreements.

            Therefore please do not drag us at this point to that history. Look forward in solving the current impasse.

            regards
            Amanuel Hidrat

          • Semere Tesfai

            Selam Horizon

            1. – I’m not associated with the PFDJ regime in any shape or form. Each day, I voice my opinion trying to be an independent minded Eritrean. Just to let you know.

            Now, to answer your question, if I have to guess, “Eritrea’s participation without any reservation in the Islamic Military Alliance under the Saudi leadership is”, to be on the good side of Western Powers (to be team-player on the war on terror). Eritrea stood against Western policy in Somalia, and you and I know what price we Eritreans paid/are paying as the result of that misstep. And as rational people, we don’t want to go, Somalia all over again. Nothing more nothing less.

            2. – As to the “May be you (Semere Tesfai) have thought of how you would begin it (the certainty of mutual assured destruction), but not how you would finish it, and at the end of which who would be around to tell the story” part of your comment –

            Believe it or not, I think about it every day. And if you care to know what I think regarding – what the end-result would be, I truly believe, neither you nor me “would be around to tell the story”. And I blame you for that.

            I may be wrong, but in my humble opinion, you’re the “suicide bomber” who is obsessed with Eritrea and the Red Sea – who is willing “to kill and die like a suicide bomber” to have it your way. All we (Eritreans) asked was good relation with you as two sovereign people.

            3. – Badme was “a piece of land many say was given to TPLF as a gift for the service it gave to EPLF, and was not an issue until 1998, because TPLF was serving EPLF’s interests within Ethiopia”.

            I respectfully would beg to differ. Badme was never given to TPLF or Tigray as a gift. It was more complex than you think. It was about power struggle between ELF and EPLF, it was about having smooth referendum with Addis regional and international dignitaries on board, it was about EPLF leaders being naive and trusting, it was about miscalculation of Ethiopia’s internal political power dynamics, it was about EPLF leaders wanting to be tooooo close to their kin in the South, it was about EPLF leaders hoping to create a society of two nations without any border dividing them, it was about economic prosperity….. That and more, was what I think.

            And for that move, the EPLF/PFDJ government and we all Eritreans learned a valuable lesson the hard way. Again, the political concept of two people without any border dividing them failed, simply because of your unwillingness to do your part.

            And speaking of your (Ethiopian) share, let me make one thing very, very, very clear to you, to the Ethiopian elite, to the Amara and Tigrean Neftegnoch, and to the whole Ethiopian people. We Eritreans are 5% of the Ethiopian population. When we agree to enter into economic political and social marriage with you (Ethiopians) – we are in a way willing to sacrifice our language, our culture and our identity…. in exchange for SECURITY and ECONOMIC gain.

            Now tell me: If you’re going to cry ቡናችን: ቆዳችን: ጤፋችን every time we do well in business as sovereign partners, then what is the point of losing our identity by marrying you? Think about it!

            Semere Tesfai

          • Dis Donc

            Dear Semere Tesfay,

            I only want to point out one factoid regarding wanting of close association with Ethiopia by EPLF. I find it absurd that you say that when the facts were the opposite.
            1. Ethiopians (especially Tegaru) were denied of free movement across the border. At times total entry was forbidden.
            2. Cross border trade was nonexistent from the Eritrean side. Example, bread was only sold to Eritreans in Zalanbessa and its environs. The border guards used to confisicate any bread from crossing into Zalanbessa and Rama.
            3. While Eritreans were allowed to roam inside Ethiopia, including in working in high governement offices; the oppoiste was forbidden.
            4….

            While your story makes you feel good, the facts on the ground were very different from the very beginning. I thought you should latched on facts.

          • Dear Semere Tesfai,
            Let me say a thing or two on your first and last points, for discussing the other points is not going to take us anywhere.

            1) to be on the good side of Western Powers (to be team-player on the war on terror).

            If i am not mistaken saay had beautiful framed this point by saying, what the coalition has succeeded up to now is to terrorize the Yemeni people, bomb civilians, schools, hospitals and infrastructures, and nothing else . The reason for the so called islamic military alliance is the dire situation in which the saudi royal family has found itself due to the oil price that is falling and they can not continue to buy their luxury and security with oil money in the future as they used to do, its nemesis Iran as a rising regional power is becoming its nightmare, the imminent lose of the security umbrella the usa is giving to the Saudi royal family has made them sleepless, and the monsters the kingdom had created (isis and al qaeda) are beyond control ready to devour them. They are running around looking for anybody who can help. Odd as it is, this alliance is not going to last long. Unfortunately, Poor small Yemen is paying the price of saudi militarism and irrational behavior.

            2) When I said in the past if eritreans were to excel economically and politically in ethiopia, good for them; I was accused as an unpatriotic and naive. What I wanted to say was that the terms of the past are not going to work in our future relationship. Every body will function within the law, no institution whether eal, ethio telecom, institutions of higher education, businesses etc, will be monopolized by a certain ethnic group, because ethiopians are forced to look the other way for the sake of political expediency. Such things are not going to happen any more. Who ever works hard within the premises of the law and prospers is welcome. This will be the way things would work in the future, if there is going to be any sort of economic and political integration. Otherwise, it is not going to work, and better avoided.

          • Semere Tesfai

            Selam Horizon

            1. – “The terms of the past (1991-1998) are not going to work in our future relationship.”

            I don’t know, probably not. But we had to start somewhere. And we did. I suppose by experts of both countries headed by two vice presidents – Tamrat Laine of Ethiopia and Mahoud Sheriffo of Eritrea.

            You and I may have different take on the agreement that was reached then, and its application on the ground; but it sure didn’t had to end the way it did (the 1998 war). And the “no war no peace” Addis policy that followed is not solving any problem. If any, it is making the problem worst.

            2. – “The reason (cause) for the so called islamic military alliance is the dire situation in which the Saudi royal family has found itself due to the oil price that is falling”

            That may be one factor among many factors, but for sure no the determining factor. The reason why the Saudi led Islamic Military Alliance got a positive nod from the West, and “Eritrea’s participation without any reservation” is very simple. It is all about who should control the international shipping (trade) lane in the Red Sea and the bottleneck at the Bab Al-Mandeb. The choice to the West being, Al-QaEda inspired Yemeni Huothis or Saudi led Sunni Islamic Military Allience. The West chose Saudi led Islamic Alliance and Eritrea followed. It is that simple.

            Is the Saudi led Islamic military campaign going to succeed? Absolutely not. The war could only bankrupt the Kingdom and its rich allies. For the long run, would Eritrea been better off had it not joined the Shia/Sunni/Islamic Fundamentalism war? Yes it would have.

            Then, why did it it joined the Islamic Alliance? Well, when you are small, weak, poor, isolated…. you don’t have the luxury of deciding what is good for you in the long run. You just join the powerful to see another day.

            Or as my Tigre people would say ሕጉዝ ዓምሳት ልሃደ – translated in Tigrigna ዝጨነቖስ ጥንስቲ ይምርዖ (ካልኦት ዘጥነሱዋ)::

            Horizon, thank you for your respectful and intelligent discussion.

            Semere Tesfai

          • saay7

            Selamat Semere:

            Well, I was getting all lonely here railing against the Saudi attack of Yemen until I saw your:

            Is the Saudi led Islamic military campaign going to succeed? Absolutely not. The war could only bankrupt the Kingdom and its rich allies. For the long run, would Eritrea been better off had it not joined the Shia/Sunni/Islamic Fundamentalism war? Yes it would have.

            Thank you. Now let me quibble a little with you.

            You said that the choice was “Al-QaEda inspired Yemeni Houthis…” How are Yemeni Houthis “Al-Qaeda inspired”? Unlike the latter, the former are a liberation army, fighting to restore their rights, and using guerrilla-warfare that attacks military targets. Al-Qaeda targets the innocent to instill terror.

            The claim that the Yemeni civil war is a “proxy-war” between Iran and Saudi Arabia is not supported by facts. Actually, there was a Yemeni civil war, and then while it was in the middle of negotiation to find a resolution, Saudi Arabia invaded at the invitation of one side of the civil war. The Iranians, as the Americans admitted, do not control the Houthis: they dont have command & control and the Houthis attacked Sana’a against the advice of the Iranians.

            So what we have in Yemen is now, as UN Sec General admitted meekly (because the Saudis are supported by the West): war crimes: bombing schools, hospitals, infrastructures and killing children.

            You then go on to ruin it all by saying:

            Then, why did it it joined the Islamic Alliance? Well, when you are small, weak, poor, isolated…. you don’t have the luxury of deciding what is good for you in the long run. You just join the powerful to see another day.

            Ah, Semere. Is there any catastophic mistake the Gov of Isaias Afwerki conducts that you don’t give the benefit of doubt?

            saay

          • Semere Tesfai

            Selam SAAY

            Thank you for engaging.

            “How are Yemeni Houthis “Al-Qaeda inspired”?”

            1. – Yes you are right, the Yemeni Houthis rebellion is not Jihadist rebellion inspired by Al-QaEda. It is highly disciplined rebellion with justified grievance. That is sloppy depiction on my part.

            Yes, you’re right, the chaos and disorder in Yemen is so complex, the alliance of the Iranian backed Houthi rebels and the former Yemeni president Ali Abdullah Saleh says a lot about the complexity of the issue

            But having said that, the Houthis are by no means friends of the West. They’re not shy to display publicly “Death To America”, “Death To Israel” signs allover the areas they control. That is a fact. And the West is very nervous about the attitude of the Houthis, the active presence of Al-QaEda, the security of the economic lifeline in that area, and about the whole chaos in the region. That’s why the West is supporting the Saudi Alliance.

            2. – “The claim that the Yemeni civil war is a “proxy-war” between Iran and Saudi Arabia is not supported by facts”

            I respectfully disagree with you on this one. You don’t need to think hard on this one. Just follow the money, follow the source of arm supplies, follow the political rhetoric of the Houthi,s and follow the political support from Iranian media.

            3. – “If you believe that the Saudi Initiative won’t succeed, do you also believe that there will be a blow-back on Eritrea?”

            “Blow-back on Eritrea”: It is possible, but that’s tomorrow, we need to make it through today to worry about tomorrow. But also, I’m a little optimistic by the sheer presence of the Red Sea and international waters as a barrier between us.

            “Why support initiative that won’t succeed?”: Well, Saleh, sometimes we (men) do crazy things. At the risk of our back and our pride, we do somersault at age fifty to impress a lady half our age 🙂

            But seriously, I support this initiative because we need to be on the good side of the West. I support this initiative because we can not afford another Somalia type misstep. Yes, it would have been great for a noble cause to enter through the main gate walking on red carpet, but even for some unattractive project, entering, squeezing ourselves through a tiny crack in the window is not bad. You know how skinny we are 🙂 That’s all.

            Semere Tesfai

          • saay7

            Selamat Semere T:

            Welcome to our Tsmdo 🙂 Now then:

            1. I am surprised a literate man like you missed the origin and meaning of the Houthis “The Scream” (Death to America….) and went for its superficial explanation. Newsweek (of all magazines) had a decent explanation:

            “The Scream” is the Houthis calling card (the phrase is translated from al Sarkha in Arabic), proclaiming, “Death to America, death to Israel, damn the Jews, victory to Islam.” It is usually more of a clarion call than a threat, especially when followed by a large smile and belly-laugh by the screamer.

            First shouted by Hussein al Houthi in the ancient Grand Mosque of Sana’a in 2004, it was “The Scream” that started the multiple wars of the Yemeni government against the Houthis. Despite the acerbic words, adherents tend to claim it is to call attention to governments of the West, never to harm individuals. The Houthis have never attacked anything of Western interest, and in fact have a common enemy with America–Al-Qaeda.

            “We do not really want death to anyone,” said Ali al Bukhayti , the former spokesperson and official media face of the Houthis, during an interview last September. “The slogan is simply against the interference of those governments.”

            2. I am not thinking hard on whether the Yemeni war is a “proxy-war” or not; I think you are. Here’s why: the definition of a “proxy war”. Refer to any source you want (from the sources provided below), it means one thing:a war instigated by a major power that does not itself participate. Well, Saudi Arabia is very much “participating.” There is a different word for it: invasion.

            http://www.definitions.net/definition/proxy+war

            3. I appreciate your optimism but I prefer realism. Modern history is replete with blowback, and nations who felt that their society would never ever allow _____ to happen, only to be surprised very rudely. For years, Somalian intellectual Professor Samatar argued that the kind of Islam advocated by Al-Shabab would never find a foothold in Somalia given Somalia’s long history of moderate Suffi Islam. He was wrong. I also don’t know what you mean by “we need to make it through today.” To make it through today–get the sanctions lifted, to get the border issue with Ethiopia resolved, to place reasonable parameters on the indefinite conscription —does not require us joining the Saudis, so we can impress the West, so they can then “pressure” Ethiopia. Your prescription was popularized by Arab comedian Joha: when he is asked to point to his ear, he uses his right hand, puts it over his head, and points to his left ear. This is called “Fien wzanek ya Joha” and that’s what you are doing.

            Here’s an alternative: release the Eritrean workers of the US embassy and other prisoners of conscience, accredit their ambassador, stop opening diplomatic pouches. You get the US. Send all the Ethio opposition packing (just like sudan did with Eritrea opposition) and you are now on process with Ethiopia. Finalize the Djibouti agreement instead of stalling on it or using it as a leverage. You get Djibouti. Etc. And none of this has blowback.

            saay

          • Hope

            Selam Semete Tesfai:
            Well said.
            But here is a simple answer.
            If the TPLF Gov is allowed to do business with the most sanctioned State in the world and the worst enemy of,and a serious threat to the USA with an open blessing of the same USA,which has sanction N Korea,
            -If the same USA and the EU along with the whole neighbors of the GCC blessed the Coalition:

            Why should Eritrea be cursed and accused for joining the Coalition for obvious Strategic and National Security Interest reasons besides being the main stake holder in the Region and the main victim of Terrorism?

            After all,where have been those cowards now crying crocodile tears when Eritrea has been sanctioned to death to the extent of not being allowed to maintain its Air Crafts while its bloody enemy is being armed to its teeth with an unlimited access to all kinds of WMD including with full help of the most sanctioned Nation in the world,North Korea?

            -the only reason they crying crocodile tears is coz Eritrea successfully and effectively outshined and defeated those Evil Axis Groups!
            Forget about the incentive or the alleged bonus but the diplomatic success is more than enough!
            Those enemies are badly heart-broken miserably.,indeed!
            Prolonging the life of PIA?
            If so,let it be until Eritrea becomes STRONGER!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Bitzay Tegadalay Semere Tesfay,

            Let me ask you some questions from your comment above, as you seem fully aware to the classified info on the agreement between EPLF and TPLF regarding the intervention of TPLF to the civil war and the issue of Badume – a bargain for the domination to the areas under the control of ghedli in general.

            (a)Yes there were power struggle between ELF and EPLF leadership. But What has to do “Badume” with the power struggle between ELF and EPLF? Can you Elaborate that to those who do not know the story of Badume and the antagonist forces who were on conflict on that particular region of our land, of course not to the ranks and files of ELF and EPLF.

            (b) You know Badume was under the control of ELF (Serawit harnet) until 1981- the fateful civil war and the intervention of TPLF, to tip the balance of power in the power struggle of the two organizations. Badume was in the custody of TPLF from 1981 to 1998. So are you telling us leaving Badume for 18 years is “to smooth referendum with Addis, regional, and international dignitaries on board”?

            (c) You said it has to do also with “the naivety of EPLF leadership.” What was EPLF’s leadership naivety regarding Badume? we need more information to back up your assertion.

            (d) You said the strategy was to bring and implement “the concept of two people without any border dividing them”. What has to do this strategy to leave Badume (part of Eritrean sovereignty) to be left and be administered by TPLF until the war break out?

            Please do not try to answer by speculation. No guess on it. Or else wait like the rest of us until historians dig out to find the unclassified agreement between the two organizations.

            regards,
            Amanuel Hidrat

          • Olana

            Ayte Sebere

            You must be the only person on the whole world that believes a dialect in a language tells one’s citizenship. What if she is Amiche who doesn’t understand Tigrigna well? What if she is an Eritrean grown up in the heart of Mekelle? Shelow Aytible zehawey. Hayat is one of the finest and rational persons in this forum. Don’t worry about Bademe and other villages, the elders of the two people around the boarder will solve the problem without much intervention of the two countries’ politicians.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Semere,

            I am in tough time regarding Hayata – the queen that was able to challenge all in awate – and the way I see it she won the war over all including the people with high caliper – I am afraid she will not be able to face your strength for having evidence that she is from from. I am unable to say anything except wait and see. I will pull till things get clear for me. so your 1,2 points above both are in my laboratory. I will wait her reply and study it. If the case is found to be different I am among few people who accept their mistakes and I will say sorry openly. Honesty is the first and the most required criteria and i hope she will not let me down. I am participating in some tasks and I never deal with someone dishonest in real life. you know it is easy to find out who is really honest and who is not in struggle and reality unlike cyber world – if we don’t know who is who especially in bloody struggle, PFDJ leadership could have eaten us here.

            according to my friends here where I am, you are among experienced Eritreans but it seems to me you are far at least those few year.- again it seems you are too honest and still kind ( I am not for PFDJ especially ) as you do. I noted your description of Weyane,EPRDF,PFDJ and opposition. I will pull discussing with you for now for one very important reason – and comeback to you soon – there is a practical answers for you . But never forget your post today to me. we have the same aim but different which is opposite style and that is bad so we need to handle it carefully.

          • Hope

            Selamat Teg Kokhob:
            Anta Kokhob Hawina,I hate to use the word XXXXXX but read Semere Tesfai one more before you go banana and talking Mumbo-Jumbo!
            He is not talking about Weyane or BAdima ….

          • Kokhob Selam

            YASHEKH,

            it is is very big for you to talk about what we are talking with Semere. Please move…this man is fighter and very much advanced and he has stand that is worth discussing. this is not just a talk like you guys are used too. Sometime leave space and sit to watch.

          • Hope

            Yakhe back to you Teg Be’al Cheguar Danga Kokhobay:

            Do not worry about me but that was exactly what I was trying to tell you that Semete Tesfai is more than a Fighter,who does not lie!
            I rather TRUST my Comrade no matter what rather than trusting and admiring a Cyber Expert ghost,whom I have no clue about.
            BTW,I might know Vet Semere Tesfai much more than you can imagine.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear hope, sorry,
            really you should just keep silent when elders are talking in our culture. and in battle ground those who don’t know about it. Lol! Hope, do you think he is your comrade? you know about him more than me, isn’t it. what do you say if you know he was ELF Tegadalay? Lol …who knows you may clean some poisons yo drink even start to think ELF is the mother and even IA was Jebha..Ama Haradit at that….Hahaha!

            you are too young for politics. infant, and you need a baby sister.. Semere will not be able to be. find someone who will take of your ….

          • Hope

            Hahah,Kokhobay:
            Words and statements made by Human Beings are not perfect but relative!
            Yeah,indeed,Teg Semere Tesfai has no reason to lie!
            FYI:
            Am a son of the ELFites from A to Z!
            My own Uncle ,Tesfay Tekhle,was PIA ‘s Mentor in the ELF!
            Yes indeed,if there was no ELF,or no Awate,I do not believe there would have been EPLF or even a Nation called Eritrea!
            That chapter is closed now.
            We all agree that the PFDJ should be dismantled and replaced with a Stronger and Constitutionally elected government but how and in what way is the sticky issue we are fighting about,not that we do not change but a Real change –but how and in what way?
            Empty rhetoric,cursing,demonimzing,siding with your own bloody enemy,which destroyed you with no chance of getting up ,who still trying to destroy Eritrea and ERITREANS to the extent of losing Eritrea ,in your own words,btw?
            Wake up Dude!
            You have to know the inside out of your enemies before siding with them and before asking for a ” Helping Hand”!
            That is where we disagree!
            In the meantime though ,when it comes to the Defense of Eritrea as a Nation and defending the National Security interest of Eritrea,guess what?
            PFDJ wey mot!
            Show me the money and your Plan B,then we can talk the talk or walk the walk!
            Your assertion telling us that Baduma will never come back as long as the PFDJ is in power is but ABSURD!
            Here is why:
            You forgot the other outcome or option:
            We will get Badum back after the TPLF is gone for Good.

            You threatened us that the EPRDF will ” SURE” find ” EVIDENCE” and will destroy Shaebia and we may not only lose Aseb but the whole Nation of Eritrea’, in the VERY Eritrean Website and Forum!
            That tells us what !
            A Second Grafer ERITREAN can figure it out.
            Kudos to you.

            Read Mahmud Salih at assenna !

            Yes indeed,I will trust Teg Semere(sorry Vet,not Semete)Tesfai and Tegadalay Mahmud Salih to death,not the Pseudo-ERITREANS ,the Pseudo-Activists,the Pseudo-Justice Seekers and and the Cybet Space Political Acrobatists and and the Cyber-Space ” Experts and Intellectuals”!

            Yes,indeed,I will stick to and with, Zeifelto Sheitan Kab Zeifelto Mela’kh!
            Please,be so kind and your friends and confidantes like Hayat,Amanuel Hidrat,Haile” TG”,Sem Andom ,and the likes and the other Pseudo-Justice Seekers are afraid to curse,demonize,accuse,etc the bloody enemies of Eritrea making Eritrea and ERITREANS go through HELL ?
            It is only fair,balanced and reasonable as well as Rational to be fair and rational!
            Show me your GUT and COURAGE,please!

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Hope,
            in our culture talking about self heroism is not appreciated. “ንነስብስኻ ናእዳ ማይ ዘንጋዳ “.

            there is one very important point I want to put here. every entity in this universe will develop up or down first and for most from his own contents and patterns programmed within. circumstances and situations are changed only when within is allowing or when within factors are ready to change as per requirement.

            this is the point you and me are differentiate. if you are good, it is likely the circumstance will be good especially if you handle your goodness fixed in you while working toward your goal with ethics and good plan. see, I know you are intelligent guy and I know you have knowledge what we need today is wisdom- you said

            “You have to know the inside out of your enemies before siding with them and before asking for a ” Helping Hand”!”

            my friend, before going to this point you have to know not about TPLF or any other say it friend or enemy but about who, what, you are. you have to solve your own internal problem before solving the problems you face from out side. you have to know if you are really doing fine. accusing circumstances was never solution for any problem solving. Never, if you one man fought with you today and throw you out of the window the reason is not because he is strong first, that is 2nd..the first reason is you are not strong to face. you are not eating properly and you are chewing Qat (Lol)…going after ladies and smoking and not excising. Now if you keep cursing the world and you don’t want to take care of yourself ,bye bye you don’t deserve to stay alive.

            we are having PFDJ in this fast developing era ..Lol and we want to cry day and night searching every reason to blame –that will never work dude. step aback, sit down and think to find Hope (you) somewhere within you..

            the guys over there, Didn’t hay jack all those refuges who cross the boarder..it is bad but Ethiopia is hosting a lot of Eritreans and this is the enemy you always blame. you do it on your bed you blame TPLF if you drive long distance thinking about the death of TPLF you miss the road and blame TPLF — WEYANE is the most repeated word and if it was a colored picture on furniture it could have faded as it is very much consumed.

            really Hope, as for me TPLF is more friend to EPLF leadership and they have injured me mentally and physically. But there is a reality here. as I said to you problems are to be solved with out not out within – I can’t believe to solve the case I have with others with a management who don’t have rule and system and is inhuman. my priority remains solving all problems within first.

            from now on be gentle with me please and don’t label me as I have accepted your stand on PFDJ. since you are for change I want to keep our common land alive. But I will never say the devil you know is better than the angel you don’t know. there will never be angel bad or worst than devil. change is something we can’t stop and we have to accept that is inevitable…instead we should direct it to the direction we want – having democratic prosperous and advanced nation.

            with love and respect.

          • Hope

            Again Mr” Kokhob Selam”:
            I did not ask for INKILILO but brief and sweet answer as to why aren’t:
            -shying away from not only demonizing,and condemning the Evill actions of the TPLF but at least acknowledging them -as much as you do against the PFDJ
            -There is a reason I repeat like an insane person the word Weyane and its evil and destructive actions against Eritrea and ERITREANS to counter-balance what you and your likes ,the likes of Amanuel Hidrat,Sem Andom and his Aunt,Ms Hayat Adem repeat over and over,again and again line an insane person against the PFDJ!
            I,at least,have acknowledged and even condemned with the STRONGEST TERMS the mistake and the crimes of the EPRP and its leadership over and over ;again and again ,hence,I do not owe you a” Penny” on that aspect.

            As far as chewing weed and chasing ladies and drinking this and that ,reserve that Nonesense to those,who practise that!

            Let us respect each other when it comes to personal issues and personal lives.

            As a reminder:

            1)-“Do not judge lest to be judged” !
            Aitfred keytifred.
            Hade beleley!

            2)”Before you try to remove the spoke from your friend’s eyes,try first to remove the one in your eyes”!

            “Mind first your own business and first be yourself.
            Kilite beleley!

            3)”Let the one ,who claims to be free from any sin cast the first stone unto her”!
            That is:
            Let us clean up our house and ourselves as you said it correctly.
            I agree on this .

            Seleste beleley!
            Courtesy of Jesus Christ,the Son of God!

            4)”Wo to you,he,who believes that he or she is standing firm should be cautious not to be swayed away by the blowing wind”!
            I believe we agree on this.
            Courtesy of St James the Deciple!
            This is not to preach the Gospel/Bilble but to let you know that I try my best to follow those Principles and to live them!

            I might not be as ” Perfect” as Dawit the Evangelist and the son of Martin Luther the Reformer(Reformist),but at least I believe in those Golden Rules!

            As far as self-appreciation and self-aggrandization is concerned,it is your problem ,not mine wether to disclose your heroism or not.
            But I do not believe in saying or doing so.

            But I know one thing though:

            Eventhough I did not bleed or was not injured as much as you and Semere Tesfai did,that I did my best and am doing my best to contribute my share to my Eritrea,one way or another,not just coz it is a Privilege but an Obligation to do so as
            I care less as to who is ruling Eritrea!

            Eritrea and PFDJ are separate entities and to insult or curse those,who might be trying to give a hand to the suffering and needy Eritrea and ERITREANS coz the PFDJ is ruling Eritrea is but beyond absurd and Hypocrisy,if not, insanity!

            Case in point:
            Look how Mahmuday is being demonized and cursed for saying what should be said!

            But we know the code and message of that demonization and Curse though!

            The big question and dilemma is:
            Why have we failed Eritrea and ERITREANS as an Opposition and as an Alternative Choice to the allegedly criminal Ruling Regime.?????

            Talk about this fact as cursing,demonizing,crocodile crying,accusing ,etc…and what not is not going to solve our Dear Eritrea ‘s Problems but walking the walk in a United Way through mobilizing the Silent Majority by creating a United and Strong Front of Justice Seekers with a Strong and centralized Leadership-the way the EPDP and the Medrekh are trying to accomplish ,which am PROUD to belong to and to be part of,unless you are going to demonize and curse me for this as well coz I simply did not comply with your stand or did not buy your politics !

            No need of obsolete and rotten Region,Religion,Ethnic and Equb-based divisive Politics of the old days as per the “Rule and the Policy of the day” of our bloody enemies so as to weaken and destroy our Dear Eritrea!

            Beyond that,sell that cheap propaganda of the TPLF telling you that Ethiopia is helping ERITREAN Refugees and sending few of them to Colleges,to the likes of Haile ” TG”,the Sems,the Hayats,the Emma’s et al.
            If you have ears to listen and eyes to see well,read and listen to what the dead-for-good PM and his Clique Members had to say overtly and covertly even as an Open Policy.

            Read or listen to Aboy Sbhat Negga’s flip-flopping and Trecherous Politics.
            Enjoy Vet Aboy Keleta Kidane’s First-Hand Golden Lectures @ meskerem ,aka,meshrefet com specially his Lectures exposing the Evil Agenda of your Masters in the ” Mighty” TPLF /EPRDF Camp.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear Hope,
            my concept is simple. there is nothing unsolvable in this universe outside you, if you are able to solve your own problem first. you can keep mentioning names and circumstances another million years but concentrating on self is the first step you should do and solve all problems within no time. who created an enemy over there? you will find it it is you…or it is me…there you will note it is not about revenge or hate at all.

            in fact to solve the entire problem of the nation call it Weyane PFDJ or opposition all can’t be solved at all unless you first make sure your mind is setting well to solve it. Have you seen some posts of mine that rejects reform? it is because removing IA or fighting only PFDJ is not enough. problems will end when you and me start from the first man who is you or me. it has nothing to do with groups or individuals as all are only results. everyone should fight his ego to reach where our higher self wants us to go. do you get it?

        • Hope

          Selam Hayat:
          For the Record:
          You are the most contradicting and the most dangerous xxxxxx person I have come across albeit knowingly and deliberately.
          Without going into further digging and research,read what Vet Sem Tesfai quoted you above ,not to mention your nonstop mantra about Regime Change!
          While claimimg that you stand for peace but then on the same line,you supported the war but ” in less populated area”!
          Who is going to buy you and your cheap propagand other than Abi et al?
          Kindey ghizie emmo zeitekesheshna Wo zeitetalena?

        • Music Novice

          Greetings Hayat,

          So, you never lie and you never contradict yourself?

          At one time you claimed that the Soviet Union and Cultural Revolution immersed China had big middle classes. But this is factually wrong.

          You were also saying that your issue with EPLF/PFDJ ruled Eritrea seems to be with the size of the
          middle class, lack of self-sufficiency, vast resources and giantness of the country etc. and not with EPLF/PFDJ itself.

          But this is a contradiction, as you say you are bitter with the EPLF/PFDJ and not bitter with the EPLF/PFDJ at the same time.

          • Hayat Adem

            Greetings MN,
            I am still puzzled as to how you crossed the valley unnoticed to the other hill. I hate to see people like you joining the incurious group. I don’t know why, but it doesn’t feel you belong there. Wo/man go to know his/her niche. Coming back to you gecha note:
            1) I don’t see the factually wrong thing but If it was a factual mistake without intention, it is called an error, not a lie.
            2) I said PFDJ would lack the necessary amount of political genes to reform itself and the system and therefor totally incapable and therefor unreasonable expectation to wait for them to reform. That was my main message.
            3) You brought Russia and China as an example that reform was possible there, and reform should be possible in Eritrea as well. You were comparing China and Russia to Eritrea.
            4) Russian reform came in 1990. China’s reform came in the 1980 or a year earlier. Since we were comparing the two countries to Eritrea, surely you must agree with me that they had a bigger middle economic class when they started reforming. When I respond to you I consciously used “economic and political middle class” and I included “political” middle class to mean the proletariat, professionals, small scale entrepreneurs and the technocrats etc. who are aware of their interests and rights and would do things to protect them as politically enlightened class. So I can’t be factually wrong If i said China in 1980 and Russia in 1990 had bigger middle class compared to where Eritrea is today. Besides, there were other factors mentioned as a contrast of difference between the two: resources, giantness, self sufficiency etc.
            5) My bitterness to PFDJ is obvious and I don’t understand a person of your level is not given unprecedented crimes committed by the group. I can not be NOT bitter. If I failed to make that clear to you at one time, take it from me now.
            Hayat

  • Dis Donc

    Mista AMAN,
    what happened? I thought that you were my friend? Why are you sneaking past my questions?

  • Hope

    Hello Aynom:
    I.e., you SUPPORT the WAR!

  • Amde

    Selam Erta,

    I read something like this (“The current Eritrea ethnic compositions came from south of Eritrea, the current Ethiopia, “) once in a while and i have a hard time understanding it. It almost reads like the place we call “eritrea” today was a barren unpopulated place until about x years ago. Personally, i jut think the area has always been
    populated more or less in the densities that populated the whole of Ethiopia. But within this, there would be groups of people that moved about for different reasons.

    There are some people that want to make Eritrea’s Tigrinya speaking people nothing other than Ras Alula’s army, who settled on otherwise virgin territory. It is absurd of course, but in the identity politics we have embraced, it is a potent tool.

    Mythology wise, everybody tells stories that wants to connect to some respected/respectable source. But the truth is simpler. We are essentially one people with millenial worth of sociocultural and political relationships. The Eritrean border, and the Eritrean identity, came last.

    Thanks,
    Amde

    • Dis Donc

      Dear Sir Amde,

      I am a descendant of the Native Americans, who migrated to the horn in 2000 years ago to receive Jesus. My tribe is called Dis Donc. Our ethnic language is Wateka Ha’Ah.

      • Amde

        Dis Donc,

        Please say something nice in Wateka Ha’Ah.

        Amde

        • Dis Donc

          Sir Amde
          And that is why you are Sir Amde. Nice come back bro.

  • dawit

    Erta,
    Good for you. You can believe what ever you want to believe, once you belong to “Planet Illogic”

  • L.T

    “For by grace are ye seved through faith;and taht not of yourselves,lest any man should boast”(Ef:8.9)
    I have read this after I have received a warning of awate and after they threatened me ache from my house,I was preverted but after this the text aboce,I forgive them.I write about different and topic,joking and singing and I do not read anything that I said it is not worth reading at. Thank God that I may received this gift of God,when I was a child my father told all his children that we should not pick anything on the street even money that does not belong to us.Thid words of him sitting up still in my brain and go on to my children but when I become an adult young man and he tries to control me but I told him to stop but he says no,but he believes that he gives me fine and good advice but I told him it is good but it is not ok for me.And now to point what for so damn that someone will come to me and say what I say,or that somebody came and arrange for me the purpose that I should take up?Or I would hate our goverment and I’ll write nice things about Weyane?people like that how could they think they should talk about the democrat?
    I do not think that is a healthy Weyane politicians and we see all the stupid he is,he waged war against my people and he fired my country and he is doing everything for my country to burn out….Hey..there…My government may have made a bad and takes a pass and enthralled your family but you can not change your ion exchange process for the country and the people only one you had been feeling bad for something happened in your family.
    You can not bind us or me for that and it happens like taht or even said that you have to be patient until it will happened to anyone going to happen that has happened to you so that all together to act or go out with swearing with slogans on street.
    I am not from Geza-banda but from Tira-volla…and have two IP…anyway

  • Peace!

    Dear Show, for show:)

    Thank you, and that’s exactly what a responsible person should be saying when people, like Hayat Adem, who have no idea about war and its consequences, calling for invasion and surgical attacks. What’s even more ironic is that it is very rare to see a woman advocates for violence perhaps the mere reason is because they are mothers. This is what Barbara Boxer, then senator for the state of California, said about Condoleeza Rice, during Iraq war, the reason her advocacy for war was because she didn’t have kids. The same thing with Madeleine Albright, who never been a mother, said the life of 500,000 Iraqi children was the right cost to keep the sanction imposed. The obvious pattern is that both of these disgraced woman are not mothers and sold their souls for money.

    Regards

    • Hope

      Well said Peace!
      ” Ab quinat zeiwe’ale jignas……”
      Prof Gheteb sail it all in a single statement!
      Margaret Thacher was another criminal when it comes to wars,who supported the Black South African genocide!
      The worst I heard about this issue was when the same Madalene Albright joked in Cairo about the Rwandan Genocide supporting it as a means of Population overgrowth control!
      She said it over the microphone!!!

    • saay7

      Wow, Peace:

      1. The following women, Malala Yousafsai, Jody Williams and Rigoberta Menchu Tum, were all Nobel Peace Prize winners. They either had no children, or they had children AFTER they won the Nobel Peace Prize.

      2. Does not having children make only women cruel or does it also apply to men?

      3. I think that, judging women who don’t have children more harshly than men, is also one of our “Bahltatna” and “kibretatna”: one of our cultures that we embrace uncritically.

      Hsebelu.

      saay

      • Peace!

        Selam Saay,

        No. No. The point I was trying to make is that the two women I mentioned above have something in common: they both advocated for violence, and they both have no children. Of course that doesn’t mean all women with no children are cruel and all women with children are not.

        I didn’t mean to pick on woman it is just very rare to see woman advocate for violence. No question man is naturally violent regardless.

        Peace!

        • saay7

          Selamat Peace!

          Let’s compare and contrast Tzigerda and Peace! arguments:

          Tzigereda:

          1. The men in charge of Eritrea and Ethiopia are violent men;
          2. We are exhausted from war and violence
          3. It’s time for women to be in charge of Eritrea and Ethiopia so we can have peace. No exclamation point:)

          Exhibit A: the governments of Eritrea and Ethiopia and their recent behavior about the “abduction” of Ethiopians.

          Peace! arguments

          1. All men are violent
          2. Women who don’t have children are also violent

          Exhibit A: Condoleeza Rice and Madeline Albright (who has children and grand children)

          Conclusion: you had a short break and you were trying to cram things in a short time, things you hadn’t thought through.

          saay

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Hi Saay,

            Good framing to keep the diversionist within the loop, if that could help at all – to people like Hope and his elks.

            Regards
            Amanuel Hidrat

          • Peace!

            Haderka Emma,

            Dehan do Kaa Aykenenan:) Saay is defending Tzigereda whom I have nothing but respect for her. I wish I can say the same about Hayat Adem.

            Cheers!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear Peace,

            All is fine even if we are on opposite side of the argument. That is how debates are generated in the first place, as far as we keep ourselves humble and respectful.

            Regards
            Amanuel Hidrat

          • Peace!

            Selam Saay,

            First of all, I didn’t say women who don’t have children are violent, second, the main point of my comment was what Barbra Baxer said about the reason why Condoleeza Rice supported violence, and yes, I am not shy to admit a mistake, but regardless of Albright, my comment still stands.

            Peace!

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Peace!,
            .
            I couldn’t believe my eyes.
            This is a tiny illustration of all your big sounding pompous comments and declarations you have been making.
            .
            You got caught in public red handed with a spot light on you with no place to go. What do you do?
            It is too embarrassing to talk about.
            .
            If I were you I would apologize profusely to everyone while holding your face in your hand.
            Now, the only thing left for you is this. I recommend you go and fast for three days, carry a large boulder to a Church or a Mosque and prey for a day to be forgiven by your maker.
            .
            This is not a pretty sight.
            .
            Mr. K.H

          • Peace!

            Dear Gashe KH,

            You just made my day:) I am still laughing, thank you! The good thing is I get used to your occasional empty comments, and sometimes you don’t even try to understand before you write a comment, what a bad habit! The other day I laughed hard when Amde pointed out that you had no idea what you were talking about.

            Nevertheless, I still think you and Horizon are very nice gentlemen, but extremely naive that your comments are totally harmless. Don’t worry I won’t ask you to apologize, but If I have to add one more thing is that if you can’t take my realistic comments, I advise you to grow some balls trust me it would authomatically gives you some allure.

            With respect!

          • Ted

            Hi KH, you seem to enjoy “gotcha” moment here. I doesn’t work like that. The argument shifts much to the LEFT no one seem interested to hear what the CENTER has to say. “Men are violent” is as harsh statement as any, if you were the good priest/imam, the statement make a proponent carry a boulder or two to a church or a mosque too. Women lag in a work force not for the lack of talent or ambition but shackled by their biological duty of raising children. When opportunities arise women make the decision based on the position’s responsibility that women held;they do it for the interest of their company, country, ethnicity or region. There is no magic awareness or gene women poses make them different from men or restrain them from ordering violent conflict, as men do, as a leader of a group or a country. Obviously, Women without children has more opportunity to climb high in the ladder of authority to make the important decisions as their male counterpart and when they do,the outcome will be exactly the same that it is governed by the interest of the people who put them in that position. Don’t get me wrong, there is a lot of work to be done to ensure the safety and opportunities women deserve, but this fight, at the crux, the notion that men are either genetically or socially conditioned to be evil is by itself evil. Feminism(if female leaders equals peace in Ethiopia and Eritrea) teaches women to see themselves as victims and men as perverts, bullies and misogynists and that is how we got into this your patronizing “not pretty sight” comment.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Ted,
            .
            I read your statement. I have to read it a couple of times more. After doing that, if I have something to say I will post it in this area.
            .
            Mr. K.H

          • Tzigereda

            Selamat Ted,
            Where did you read ” female leaders equals to peace in Ethiopia and Eritrea”? The call is that women should have equal share & participation on the decision making process, and I believe this would have a great impact in pacifying the region.

          • Ted

            Hi Tsegereda, Women having ” equal share & participation on the decision making process” is fine with me but don’t tell me it guaranty “pacifying the region”. I conquer with you that the absurdity of our conflict with Ethiopia. That being said, I also believe Women are capable of behaving as our current male leaders if they were to make a political decision in their respective country.
            If your assertion is true, In the good USA ,women only having 20 percent of congressional seats, despite composing a majority of the US population, has its work cut out for it.
            There is nothing can be done by legislation and policy, it needs social awareness and economical empowerment.
            What is the updated feminism looks like. It should be part of awareness campaign..

    • Atsn’haley

      Peace,

      You are factually wrong, Medeline Albright has children and grandchildren….

      and ditto Saay…

      FS.

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Hey Atsnhaley,

        Yes indeed, she has three daughters. Peace went out of his way just for the sake of defense to justify the unjustifiable, irrespective of the facts.

        Regards

      • Hope

        FS:
        Peace was just ” saying” things to indicate that those people or women ,who have not experienced what those Moms,who lost their beloved kid might not understand the effects of WAR.
        As simple as that.

        The logic of SAAY and those others,who have misquoted Peace out of context is called “classic fallacious logic”!

        • Hope

          Kid=kids.

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Dear Peace,

      Unfortunate from you to read a comment out of the norm we know you as rational and respectful individual. You are way better than that. Wouldn ‘t it better to put your argument against the war only? If men are running “just wars” and “unjust wars”, why do women be excluded from any decision making or to have a say on the merits and demerits of wars? when are we going to recognize the rights of our women to have a say in all aspects of our life, including on issue of peace and war equal to their counterpart men?

      regards
      Amanuel Hidrat

      • Peace!

        Emma

        I will clear myself later today. My short break has just ended.

        With respect!

    • Hayat Adem

      Peace,
      (unwarring, tranquility, serenity)
      I defined the word “peace” for you. Either drop the name, and pick something that fits you or elevate your behavior/ethics/values to the name you happened to pick. You are so double hearted and there seems to be enough space to build a Berlin wall inside you. And you have the gut to go accusing nonmothering women of warmongering? This came from you shows how far people like you can go to deceive. I invite you to make a dialogue with yourself, and come to terms, reconcile: you today, you days ago, you weeks ago… .
      You said this hours ago:
      “What’s even more ironic is that it is very rare to see a woman advocates for violence perhaps the mere reason is because they are mothers.”
      And you said before:
      “Nonetheless, if Weyane managed to crush Gunbet 7, then the war between Weyane and EDF will not be conventional as every house is trained and well armed. ግደፎም ክሰጥሙ እዮም in the same grave their brothers buried in”
      And this:
      “I am afraid the army, which make up of majority Ormos, will break up and all out war seems inevitable”
      And this:
      “There is no such Ethiopian army that’s capable of invading a foreign country, but rather there is a collapsing TPLF army facing massive defections: just today over 900 fully armed soldiers are missing. For the oppressed Amharas and Oromos, today is not 1998 that they were deceived and dragged into a war with Eritrea just because greedy TPLF wanted to loot Ethiopia alone”
      Remember you now?
      I think we can watch IA fully awake and alert for we know how evil he is. People like are difficult to watch as you are fence-sitters. And fence sitters are worse pain producers as the German Arendt would say: The sad truth is that most evil is done by people who never make up their minds to be good or evil.
      hayat

      • Nitricc

        Hi Hayat did you see that LT’s post is deleted because he didn’t begun with salutations, yet you committed the same violation and your post is untouched. do you get my drift?

        • Hayat Adem

          Hi Nitricc,
          Leave the watch job to them. Theirs is regulating deviations. Ours is putting our views and discussing them.

        • Kokhob Selam

          Waw Netriccay,

          so fast to to talk about violation! where rules are violating is wrong and I respect your call. but she started by writing the name concerned again there are strong men working on that. But why rules and regulations are important Nitrricc? we don’t need all those systems, don’t you think so? you are supporting PFDJ and still talking about rules! Lol. always lovely. do you know the world ሰካሕ?

      • Peace!

        Dear Hayat,

        Again. I stand by what I said that it was pure for defense purpose. See when you call for invasion( surgical attack) then I must tell what awaits your panic TPLF bosses.

        Peace!

  • Nitricc

    Hi Ayneta, you said “Why would the war be my business?”
    Well……..
    ” War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.”

    I know what you mean!!!!!

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Nirickay,

      You said ” war is not the ugliest thing “. Kunat zeyweAle yhater. You haven ‘t experienced it. You are invited to the frontline to taste the ugliness of it.

    • Ayneta

      Nitricc:

      I see your point. I am not trying to run away from defending my homeland. I am a proud Eritrean who is willing to make every sacrifice to make sure that our beloved Eritrean remains a land of rule. But I also know how individuals can mold national feelings to serve their selfish ambitions and deprive their people the very basic things in life, hence my allusion to Mengistu ( I dont know how much you know about the story of Mengistu’s era) .

      IA is not Eritrea and I wont participate in anything he proposes or does simply because I don’t trust him. He has completely squandered our collective glorious legacy, trashed it to a personal project and he has metamorphosed into a monster who treats Eritrea like the a piece of his private land: he ploughs it, fallows it, dig it, urinate on it the way he pleases. I refuse to serve his selfish and potentially disastrous intensions. I am too smart and too pro-people to fall into his trap.

  • AMAN

    Dear Awates,
    and others…….( non Awates)
    Greeting
    The true source of the problem currently you are
    having is that because some of the debaters
    deliberately misquoted, plagiarized and used
    the contents of my posts to suit them and their
    views. Had they not distorted them at all , the
    opponent would have been dead by now. But
    their panic unwittingly saved the dying patient.
    Now my question is why did words be put in
    my tongue ?
    Why did they failed to engage me directly ?
    Why am I blamed for ulterior motive while
    they do the same ?
    And many more unanswered questions.
    May be they were on sliding and misplaced plane
    to begin with !
    IF YOU WNAT TO KNOW MORE ABOUT ME
    I ALSO NEED TO KNOW MORE ABOUT YOU !
    Something for you to contemplate and think about
    before I come back soon to Awate forum.

    • PTS

      Aman,
      Who are these habitual and mysterious bad-doers? Unless they are sending you private emails, I don’t see them around here…

    • Kokhob Selam

      Dear AMAN,
      በጃኻ መስቆርቆሪ – መስተማሰሊ -በይናዊ ምዃን ግደፎ :: ኣብ ሓንቲ ዝተላዕለት ጉዳይ ብፍቱሕ ልቢ ተመያየጥ :: ሰባት ግዜኦም ኣዝዮም እዮም ዘኽብሩ : -እቲ ዘመን ዘመነ -ቅልጣፈ እዩ:: ስለ’ዚ እዮም ድማ ኣብ ቁምነገር ዘድህቡ :: ንስኻ ‘ውን ከምኡ ክትገብር ኣለካ:: ኣብ ሞንጎና ስድራ ዝናብዩ:- ዝመሃሩ:- ንኣሽቱ :-ዓበይቲ :- ኣንስቲ- ሰብኡት:- ምሁራት:- ዘይምሁራት :- ተጋደልቲ :-ተዓዘብቲ :-ተበለጽቲ:- ሻዕብያ :-ጀብሃ: – ህግደፍ ጅኒ ዕፍሪት ኣለው ::ግን ኩልም ኣብ ግዜ ጸዋታ የብሎምን : -ጉያ ጉያ እዩ ዘመኑ !!!! ጉየ ግዳ ኸኣ ናብ ‘ቲ ንስኻ ትኣምነሉ ንጹር ዕላማ ::

    • Dis Donc

      Dear Mista AMAN,

      Why did they failed to engage me directly?

      What a smirk question? Didn’t I try to engage you directly? You told me to go to your girly’s Jo Jo. I thought that you were erudite but as Sir Amde puts it ….

  • dawit

    Erta, From which planet did you come from. The hate planet.

    “All Eritrean trace their root back Ethiopia. On The other hand no
    Ethiopian traces its root to Eritrea”.

    Ask the Amara, the Gurage, the Adere , Agew, Afars,even ask the Woliata all trace their origin to Eritrea, which was part of the Axumite kingdom based in Adulis. Perhaps the only people in Ethiopia who did not claim that are Oromos and Somalis and few bantu tribes in the south.

    You also “Given all social matters that Eritrea has revolve around Ethiopia, language, religion, ethnicity
    and heritage hate has become a tool that the regime in Eritrea has to use to separate Eritrean people from Ethiopia and the hatred they regime planted is becoming part of the fabric of Eritrea society”.
    Please stop writing such garbage in this Web site. I don’t know what your hate mission is, but such language will not bring peace between people. The only difference between the two people is political differences. Please go back to your planet, there is no place for ethnic hate politics at AT.

    • Kim Hanna

      Selam dawit,
      .
      Good to know we are the same people. You don’t want to be called Ethiopian for some reason. We certainly don’t want to be called Eritrean, because of Antonioni, or who ever robbed us and coined the name. Abyssinia is offensive to some.
      .
      We all have to concentrate and find a sexy name for everybody to buy into. There it is, all our problems solved with one word.
      .
      So dawit, what is the WORD?
      .
      Mr. K.H

      • dawit

        Selam Kim,

        You wrote “You don’t want to be called Ethiopian for some reason”. I don’t know where you get that information!

        For some reason I am the only one in this AT forum who claims both an Ethiopian and Eritrean. Some people don’t like it they want be one or the other, and other joules of me because I have two country which I equally love. No one defines my nationality, I define it my self. I have an Ethiopian ID and Eritrean ID. I fulfill the nationality requirement of both countries. I filled their forms exactly the same, I did not forged any document.

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Hey dawit,

    So you are telling us to “raise arm” against your current Negus. I don’t believe that dawit. Is that what you mean?

    Regards,
    Amanuel Hidrat

    • dawit

      Hey Emma,
      Don’t misquote me. What I said stretch you strong skinny Eritrean arm and grab his gun when is deep asleep’. That does not mean you bring arm from across the border or hire an assassin to kill my Negus. If you snatch his gun then you will have my support as my new Negus. dawit is very flexible. I think saay7 has a good grasp or understanding of ‘Dawitism’ 99.98% of the time except he get confused when he drinks Kool-Aid made by SEMG and COI 0.02% of the time.

  • T..T.

    Hi all,

    What dawit, Nitricc, Hope and sara should learn before it is too late:

    Good and soft words are approaches to turn away wars (from practices of the Eritrean opposition); nasty words like Hameda NiLali stir up one into enmity (from practices of Isayasists). Choice is theirs.

    It is the Isayasists love for war that is sending the country again and again to wars. They don’t know with a declaration of wars in the past, so many people had to meet their tragic deaths. They don’t know with one additional nasty word, the electrified and escalating tensions could explode in any direction to a devastating war.

    To understand who is responsible for the current tension between Ethiopia and Eritrea of Isayas, one has to elaborate on the Isayasists comments and nasty words. Undoubtedly they are talking about Ethiopian being wiped out of map disintegrating into Killil States. They should know that Isayas is seeing what they are posting and can declare war without consulting any. That’s what the Ethiopians, who by the structure of the government their declaration of war, unlike that of Isayas, is a process that takes open and long discussions in parliament. They don’t want caught off guard once again and surprised by Isayas’s declaration of war. Accordingly, the Ethiopians don’t want to be bottled with endless ifs and that’s why they are saying a good attack this time begins with a target (Isayas), which many of the discussants here are referring to as surgical removal of the cancer in the region.

    • dawit

      TT
      A liar is always a liar. Period Believe it or not when you attack Eritrea the next time , your clay made country will break shatter into pieces,entering Zemene Mesafinti (War Lords) that may take another 3000 years to repair,

      • T..T.

        dawit,

        Please, cool down. Do let anger control you and pray for the sun to rise in the west. See, you are taking your anger out on one who volunteered to give you the best piece of advice.

        Surely, people hate the bads (Isayasism) of you and not the improved you. Please don’t get emotional and don’t get stuck believing that people hate to shake hands with you when looking forward to better things in the region. A new you would be loved and respected by all awates because you will not get involved any more in tarnishing the image of the Eritrean people.

        I never expected you to deny opening up to best piece of advice on how to manage your tongue and become a diplomat who represents and advances his country’s interest. My advice was about a reset with the people around you through improving your relationship but you proved you are bumpy even with yourself. You appear to say “I am Isu,” come what may. You would have not said that if you knew what was awaiting the nation from your believing in Isu over the nation and the people, come what may.

        • dawit

          Mr. or Ms. TT,

          Here is a nation which you were told as your enemy and believed to be true for decades doing some good thing for the victim of drought while your government drum beating for war against Eritrea.

          http://www.sis.gov.eg/En/Templates/Articles/tmpArticleNews.aspx?ArtID=99716#.VtQni33hAsY

          I have told you 1000 times PIA is saint as any leader in this world and even far better decent than most. You believe it or not PIA is the best friend of the poor Ethiopian people more than EPRDF leaders who are preparing them for another war of aggression with fabricated lies of kidnaping etc.. I wonder how successive Ethiopian government underestimate the intelligence of so called ‘educated Ethiopians’. Judging from what you write on this forum, you are not better than a parrot that repeat what its master want it to repeat. No need to think rationally. The creeping Ethiopian revolution has already started students uprising, farmers uprising, protest of taxi drivers, soon the teachers, workers and priests and sheiks will join it, and the war in Eritrea will hasten the process. TT this is my last communication to you and your compatriots who are drum beating for a war between the two nations. Frankly speaking I don’t consider you or your compatriots where ever they may live, educated or uneducated as genuine Ethiopians. Anyone who support war on Eritrea is not a true Ethiopian but a maniac..

  • tes

    Selam Moksi and dear Awatawyan,

    This is not tes, Tesfabirhan WR. You need to differentiate us.

    tes

  • Lamek

    Dear Hope, ferrah si kilte betru zibahal kemzi natka eyu. Coward and ferrah are the same thing so you used two sticks of the same size and quality to smack me. You are the one who is coward. You are a good man I can tell but you need to let go of your fears of weyane. Fear IA instead. Kemta zemtsaekuwa ketfiaa eye. who said this? Ethiopian PM or DIA? Please simple reply.

  • sara

    Dear awtistas,
    Some time ago there was a discussion about Eritrea joining the saudi led Islamic coalition against terrorism, just yesterday the grand military exercise named the north thunder has started with a participation of 150000 soldiers and 2540 war planes 20000 tanks 460 helicopters in action in the largest military excess in the history of the region.imagine 2540 fighter planes, and all of them the best and latest including air to air refueling capabilities for long range flights. Do we have such arsenal around the region except with the big powers, none.

    • saay7

      Hi Sara:

      And will this is impressive arsenal be used to bomb Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (Yemen?) After all, isn’t this supposed to be a “war against terror”? All the bombing raids have done is to bomb schools, hospitals and children and the war is as un-winnable as everybody predicted it would be, except for the 30 year old crown prince.

      By the way, today the Government of Eritrea confirmed that “the United Arab Emirates now uses Eritrean logistical facilities.” Of course, it didn’t tell this piece of news to Eritreans directly in Eritrean media–it told its benefactors (EU) via Reuters.

      saay

      • sara

        uncle saay
        the Islamic coalition has a grand agenda, fighting terrorists being one of them it has
        multifaceted program that will protect the region against all forms of treat to the well-being of the member stats, case in-point is the ongoing war in syria,yemen and maybe tomorrow any treat to Egypt from the Jewish entity or others who have ill intention against the Islamic coalition states. the AQAP treat is minimal in view of the other bigger treat coming from state sponsored terror as we see them this days even nearby.

        As for the ”UAE use of eri facilities” i don’t know why you have brought this selectively, though the Reuters story carries so many ongoing developments in the country.
        btw, haven’t we read arguments here that Eritrea has given/leased the port of Asaab to Iran and sometimes Jewish state etc. why do we have to keep our ports only to be accessible to our southern neighbor( as wished by many here at these forum), didn’t they say we use it to for our camels.

        the good news is, those days when the our region was a place of conquest, to be exploited,controlled and tamed is getting thinner by the day .

        • saay7

          Ya Bint Ukhti Sara:

          When I write people who live in the Gulf States, I am almost as careful as writing people in Eritrea because I don’t want them to get in trouble with their Censoring States.

          Let’s put it this way: if I were one of the monarchs of a Gulf State, I would do exactly what they are doing. But let’s not get confused: they are doing it to protect their luxiruous way of life, and has nothing to do with protecting the people. Terrorism has been a scourge on the world for decades: they fed it, they enabled it, they justified it for decades, it is only when the Frankenstein they helped create came after them that they decided to get serious about fighting it.

          When you say that “Islamic coalition has a grand agenda, fighting terrorists being of them,” do you think that is the understanding of the Gov of Eritrea when it said it would support it “without reservation”? Is it one of Eritrea’s agenda to protect Egypt “from the Jewish entity”?

          I shared the news that was disclosed by Reuters to make two points: (a) that Eritrea is allowing UAE to use its facilities in the Red Sea was disclosed by Eritrea’s foreign minister to Reuters: it wasn’t in any of the media the Gov uses to communicate with its own people (Haddas Ertra, Eritrea Al Hadish, Eritrea Profile, Dimtsi Hafash Radio, Eri-TV) proving that the Eritrean gov considers placating Europe more important than informing its own people directly; (b) for years, the Eritrean government had dismissed all claims that the Red Sea port is being used by Arab, Iranian, Israel governments by flaring its nostrils and pounding the podium with righteous indignation of “Eritrea is not sale!”

          Like I say, lying is the official language of the Gov of Eritrea. Take everything they say with a grain of salt or they will corrupt your soul.

          saay

          • sara

            Ya khali al habib,
            Are you telling us governments, should have to run a referendum for all bilateral agreements (comercial/trade) they enter with any state, corporation. Is this a norm in the west, honestly I don’t know but in places I am familiar w ith that is a routine Action of governments that doesn’t get any attention from the wider public, except those who are directly concerned Parties from the public servants and those involved in trade and commerce.
            Btw, you mentioned soul… are you intending to bring back those “heart and mind” discussions to the forum, I miss
            That sidekike of yours.
            Cheers.

          • Hope

            Selamat Sara:
            Do not even try it as you will never defeat or win this man in the Court of Law!
            This is a guy ,who can easily convince you that a stone is a bread somehow!
            But he knows that when it comes to Politics and Geo-Political interest ,truth does not hold any water .
            If he trusts the SEMG Report including the fake AU Summit Bombing Plot and that of the Ugandan Massacre as if it was plotted by Eritrea through a code called Asmera Code,then there should be something WRONG!
            If SAAY still believes in what he said above that what the PFDJ did in joining the Coalition and Leasing Aseb to the UAE fully knowing the total Arms Embargo on Eritrea while her bloody enemy have had uimited access to any kind of WMD including through the help of the number enemy of the USA,N Korea,definitely something is fishy to argue otherwise against Eritrea joining the Coalition for whatever reason besides some kind of help from the GCC…..

          • sara

            Dear hope,
            you are right, i know that Mr saay7 will not relent trying .

          • saay7

            Hala Hala ya bint Ukhti:

            Awalen. Yes, in “all bilateral agreements for commercial trade” the ratification should be made by the people’s representatives. You don’t have to have a referendum but a people’s assembly should debate it and voice its approval or disapproval.

            Thanian. We don’t know if Eritrea’s granting/leasing “logistical space” in Asab is a commercial/trade agreement is part of the “Islamic coalition against terrorism.” Even more reason for the people’s representatives to have their say on that.

            Thalten: this is not the norm just in the West but everywhere in the world EXCEPT the part of the world you live in (Middle East) and the part of the world we are from (Africa.) If you remember, when Saudi Arabia arbitrarily listed Malaysia in the “Islamic Coalition Against Terrorism”, the Malaysians said, “hold up; that is not how we do things down here. We debate it and vote on it.”

            Rab’En: You did not address why is it that an issue as important as leasing Eriteran space to Emirates is not only NOT debated in Eritrea, it doesn’t even appear in the Eritrean media and it didn’t even make it to the list of questions Eri-TV journalists asked the president. Why do you think that is?

            “Heart and mind” was the great and sorely-missed Haile The Great and that guy is nobody’s sidekick. But I am glad you got a kick out of saying that:)

            saay

  • Kim Hanna

    Selam No Ethiopia,
    .
    I have faith in the Ethiopian Government and leadership. We don’t have one crazy man at the top. The leadership is not a gambling type. They have put up with a lot of “tenkols” from the north. It is always possible, based on facts, the Ethiopian Government might want to show the stick to the man, who spends untold amount of money and energy for no good purpose to his own country.
    .
    The streets of Keren, regime change or any of these crazy ideas will NOT cross their collective minds. We are on a good track and these side detractions need to be avoided. Eritrea is not our problem. I hope they don’t pay attention to the bravados of the feeble minded warriors all around us. Kidnappings and planting bombs need to be dealt with in the least costly and most effective way.
    .
    Mr. K.H

  • Kokhob Selam

    Dear Hope, they don’t need my help. they don’t need you also.

    I might not be as young hero as you are supposed to be but at least I am around them when needed. don’t you notice my ጨጓር ዳንጋ character sometime? Lol. Hope, what will you say if I assure you our fighters are doing fine and the war between Ethiopia and Eritrea is not needed at all to remove PFDJ?

    why did it take this much years? it is simple…imagine you are still believing it is not possible to remove PFDJ…the young preferred to die in deserts than to confront PFDJ before. Lol. now, not all but very few highly skilled fighters are killing your boss’s slaves. and yes sure the mass will join them. my promise to you is PFDJ leadership will leave the nation or face the strong Eritrean mass soon. don’t afraid that there will be civil war in Eritrea – that is why the heroes were late – till the society equally stand against PFDJ.

  • sara

    L.t dear,
    You know once you were applauded by awtistas for your satirical pauses therfore do not
    Make that drive into the unknown. Play it safe we want you here for the long March back to gezabanda tilyan in asmara.
    Cheers.

  • Tzigereda

    selam Awatistas,
    ናይ ኩናት ከበሮ ክህረም ከሎ ዝሰራሰር እንተሃልዩ ንዕንወት ዝዕድም፣ ቅብጸተ-ተስፋ ዘበገሶ ሓጺርን ካብ ፍትሓውነት ዝረሓቀ ዘራጊን ኣተሓሳስባ እዩ። ኩናት ጥፋኣት ኢዩ፣ ኩናት እቲ እንሓልሞ እንብህጎ ሰላም ቅሳነት ኣይከነግስን ኢዩ። ክብሪ ዋጋ ህይወት ንምንታይ ኣባና ክበጽሕ ከሎ ኪንድዚ ዚሓስር? ልዕሌና ዋጋን ሳዕቤንን ኩናት ዚፈልጥ ዶ ኣሎ ኢዩ? ንዘዝመጸ ወለዶ ንቅርቦ ቀለብን ህይወትን ኩናት ጥራሕ እንተኾይኑ ዘይምህላው ይሕሽና። ብሰንኪ ኩናት የሕዋቱ፣ የዕሩኽቱ ዘየጥፈኤ ዘይተዘናበለ ኣዲኡ ከተእዊ ዘይረኣየ ኣቡኡ ኪኽምሰል ዘይረኣየ ኢንተሃልዩ ኣብዚ ኣለኹ ይበል። እቲ ዘሰብድ ዓቢኹም ኑኡስኩም ድሮ ኣብ እስኮመሳ ኣቲኹም ምህላውኩም ኢዩ፣ መን ምስመን ይጽጋዕ። ቴፎዞ ናይ መን ኢኻ? As to my opinion these male dominated governments (Eritrea &Ethiopia) are not capable of governing. They have never put the interest of their citizens at the first place. My call would be disarm these countries, arrest the leaders of the governments, set a new one where more women have a say.

    • Music Novice

      Greetings Tzigereda,

      This is called delusion.

      • Nitricc

        Hey MN lol hahahahah oh boy. the word delusion is not enough. I think Sis Tzige was sharing few beverages with Tes when she wrote this funny article. what i don’t get is this…. why is the government of Eritrea is blamed for; for what the stupid action TPLF is taking? who is hitting the war drum? it is the TPLF not the government of Eritrea. so, why is it the government of Eritrea blamed for? you talk about delusion!!!!!

        • Lamek

          Nitricc, DIA hasn’t learned a lesson from the last war. Ethiopia accused PFDJ of (or some elements from within Eritrea) taking hostage Ethiopian civilians. Now, DIA needs to refute this with concrete evidence or explain why he or his Ethiopian stooges did so. Otherwise, the court of law will yet find him for instigating war against Ethiopia. It’s simple really.

        • saay7

          Selamat Nitricc:

          What Tzigereda said–expressing her desire for a time when women would be in charge of Eritrea and Ethiopia–is no different from youth expressing their desire for when they will be in charge of Eritrea and Ethiopia because of all grudge-filled old men. One view is politically correct and one is politically incorrect.

          What is Eritrea being blamed for? Well, first not Eritrea, but its irresponsible leaders. Second, the trigger for all this, allegedly, is that some Ethiopians were abducted. Who abducted them?

          a. Eritrea-based Ethiopian opposition
          b. Ethiopia-based Ethiopian opposition
          d. Ethiopia-based Eritrean opposition
          d. Nobody was abducted: it is all a fabrication.

          If the answer is (a), then, does the Gov of Eritrea bear some responsibility? Do you even want to know if the abduction occurred or is the “explanation” given by the Ministry of Information enough for you?

          saay

          • ‘Gheteb

            Wo 2nd Cuz SAAY,

            You say:

            ” What Tzigereda said–expressing her desire for a time when women would be in charge of Eritrea and Ethiopia–is no different from youth expressing their desire for when they will be in charge of Eritrea and Ethiopia because of all grudge-filled old men. One view is politically correct and one is politically incorrect”.

            Whereas “women” is so specifically gender EXCLUSIVE, “youth” is only AGE specific and gender INCLUSIVE. I don’t see how you can equate both. I simply, can’t.

          • saay7

            Selamat Gheteb:

            You know, those who endure “drb ch’qona” are occasionally entitled to ask for remedies that don’t necessarily apply to those who endure “nexela ch’qona”. For example, yesterday Chris Rock, hosting the Oscars, said that just as there are categories for men and women in the Oscars (Best Male Actor, Best Female Actor), there should be one just for black actors. His argument is that this is an extreme remedy to deal with a persistent malady. I didn’t agree with him, but I saw his point. That is how I see Tzigereda’s argument.

            Moreover, “women” is gender exclusive and age inclusive; whereas youth is age exclusive and gender inclusive. Someone who is not outraged by the latter should not be outraged by the former.

            Peace out

            saay

      • Dis Donc

        Dear Muzika,

        Your bigotry and ignoramous attitude shows to the heaviest extreme. Germany, Chile, and may be soon the US are run by women. These countries and their economies are shining examples of mankind. While you sit around and dither about women equality the rest of the world is looking down on you as a pathetic monkey.

        Awate forum: you can delete the message if you don’t like my tone but you can see that I have had enough of these male chauvinists.

        • Lamek

          Hi Dis Donc. If you pay close attention to the comments from Gheteb, MN, and Hope, you will quickly learn that all three are suffering from sexual frustration.

          • Music Novice

            Lamek, are you from “planet illogic”?

        • Nitricc

          Hey DD, what up? I think you have miss understood what MN is trying to say. He is not undermining women or being male chauvinists at all. it is kind of funny how sis Tzigereda demanded that women should rule the world. I will have no problem with here demand as long as women earned it like the Eritrean women did. if we believed in equality then nothing is given and everything is earned. so, the way Tzigereda demanded that women should rule was a little funny. that all. if you ask me, this world probably much safer and peaceful if it was ruled by women but again they have to earn it.

          • Dis Donc

            Well and good Nit.

          • Music Novice

            Greetings Nitricc,

            Ignore this character, he is half-baked. A total waste of time.

          • Dis Donc

            Muzika,
            Do you notice that you can’t even reason like Nitric does? Has it occurred to you that this site is for debate and reason? You do not have a mother, sister, or wife that you call them delusional? Geez, man; what a low-lifer!!

    • sara

      Dear gule haile,
      I have made my virtual up vote, because I like your tigrnya part of your comment. As for the English part, com on be fair, don’t make a blanket accusation to appease you know who. Be frank and say the right thing,
      You know who is roaring about making war.

    • ‘Gheteb

      Hi Tzigereda,

      Last time I checked, Lady Margaret Thatcher is of the FEMALE gender. She was as a warmongering maniac as all the Abyssinian leaders who haven’t left no stone unturned on imposing war of aggressions, occupation and destructions on Eritrea.

      Your quixotically starry-eyed assertion about female led governments is only matched by your unwillingness to call a spade a spade by naming the Weyane led government as the belligerently bellicose party here.

      You may think that you are cleverly trying to kill two birds with one stone here. But, your credibility will definitely take a slide on a banana pill.

      • Music Novice

        We have a serious case of Feminist Infantile Disorder (FID).

        • ‘Gheteb

          Selam Music Novice,

          Precisely! precisely! precisely! You hit the bull’s eye, so to speak, here. I think it was Lenin who wote a book entitled: “Left Wing Comminism”: An Infantile Disorder

          Thanks Music Novice. You have definitely added an arrow to my quiver. Surely I have a lot more to say about this issue in the not so distant future.

          • Music Novice

            Greetings Gheteb,

            “Left Wing Communism”: An Infantile Disorder is a great book from the master strategist and tactician, Lenin. The first English translation of this book had the title: “The Infantile Sickness of ‘Leftism’ in Communism.”

            Sadly, these days, the Militant Feminism we see in West is gradually infecting developing countries. The Militant Feminists of the West have held entire societies to ransom through moral blackmail and have now ‘achieved’ many goals including same gender marriage. Whether they will achieve their highest ambition, which is to stand up and pee like their male counterparts remains to be seen.

            God have Mercy!

        • Hayat Adem

          You guys, you and Gheteb are carried away by your ability to find odd phrasal expressions. FID is a new discovery. I have never seen an infant double hit by disorder because it happened to be a girl. I would say anthropological masculine bias added to a visible inadequacy is much scarier.

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Bitzeyti Tzegereda,

      Talking about our own, how could we disarm the dispot and his colleagues?
      To be spesific how unarmed population disarm an armed government? How possible is it in our dark continent? Bitzayswi Hitto.

      Regards
      Amanuel Hidrat

    • Nitricc

      Hey Tzigena; I have no idea about Ethiopia but don’t you worry about ERITREA. Eritrea owes to her women who did so much and I guaranteed i will find one woman from this crowed who is capable to lead Eritrea. Xegem yelen!

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UBfJl0mhDE

      • Nitricc

        well i wasn’t even here for the last 27 days; what do you mean use sparingly? that clip meant a lot to what i was trying to say. you know what; fine, have it your way. Sometimes let things go. i hate it when you delete my thing, just hate it.

        • PTS

          Lol Nitricc. Sparingly. I’ve noticed that has become the typical advise. AT needs to find a better word.

        • dawit

          Welcome back Nitricc,
          “Kem eyou zelo eti wore”, now a days or zemene planet illogic. Any video that that depict Eritrea is no, no. Only video that put Eritrea in the dark is welcomed. I understand why you are frustrated because a picture is worth 1000 words, but our Wardias are not keen on that. Don’t forget greetings. ..

        • Dis Donc

          Come on Nitric.
          I have seen you many times more patient than this.

          • Nitricc

            hey DD, may be so but AT won’t tell you what the reason is! they just tell you use video links sparingly? we should know why. is it because over loading the system? is it harming the day today operation? i mean tell us the reason so we can understand what the reason is. like i have said, i was away for almost a month and came back posted one link i get the same reminder. just tell us why, that is all.

  • saay7

    Selamat Awatistas:

    Whatever it is that happened exactly, it appears that the usual corners are interested in inflaming it.

    Fana (FBC), the quasi-mouthpiece of the Gov of Ethiopia, has a website. Its news, in Amharic, is headlined “Ethiopians who were abducted and held for a week by the Eritrean government have been released.” The content then deteriorates further by assigning responsibility of the abduction on “Shaebia” and speculating that they were released because Sudan pressured “Shaebia” to do so and that the Ethiopian government had warned it would take disproportionate measures against “Shaebia.”

    Then, Aigaforum, another quasi-mouthpiece of the Gov of Ethiopia, pleads with FBC that it should have told it about the abduction of Ethiopians and not just wait until they are released. This is because the “government must one day realize it is better to govern an informed subjects![sic]” That’s right, not citizens, but subjects. Aiga goes on to plead some more: “please keep the promise of our martyrs!”

    Not to be outdone, Shabait.com, the official mouthpiece of the Gov of Eritrea, issues a press release and uses language straight from Yemane Gebremeskel Book of Insults. The Gov of Ethiopia is referred to as “TPLF regime” repeatedly, and there is no mention at all on whether Ethiopians were abducted, who abducted them, how they were returned. Just the usual “Weyane abqiU iyu” language we have been hearing for 12 years.

    This is how nations stumble themselves into a war.

    saay

    • Hope

      Hello Ghedeb News and the AT:
      A nice try/one but a ” lame” one!
      But listen:
      As much as the AT,the Ghedeb News and /or the Pencil have accused,demonized,humiliated ,exposed and what not,the Shaebia or the PFDJ Gov,the same Team or News or Pencil should equally,if not more,expose,accuse and humiliate and demonize the other enemies of ERITREA and ERITREANS for their untold overt and covert evil actions,the Real and perceived Threats that same Junta has incurred up on Eritrea and ERITREANS!

      This is not just my opinion but a Citizen’s Obligation for the AT to do so.
      I know I am not entitled to say so as I was warned in the past.

      If you do not do so,then welcome to the Club of the Hayats,Emmas,the Sem Andoms et al!

      In short,you have the same obligation of exposing the evil acts of the other enemies of Eritrea and ERITREANS and you have tons of info and evidence,classified as well as declassified,to expose those other Enemies of Eritrea and ERITREANS!

      • Saleh Johar

        Hi Hope,
        If you think Awate.com has classified information, you have more than the combined knowledge of AT and the administrators. For instance, only a well connected person like you would disclose that Eritrea has a smuggled “WMD.” Maybe Gedab News should do that as a Seber Zena and quote you as an emodiment of Secretary Colin Paul in his 2003 role at the UN. What do you say, can we quote you?

        • Hope

          Ahlen Wo Sahlen Ya Ustazna:
          I thought I responded to this some where else.
          Let me repeat it:
          It was a quasi joke after all .
          Classified?
          I know you know better than me and you have a better access to ” classified” info in my standard.
          -It was Sem Andom or Ghezae Hagos,who stated that the PFDJ has been smuggling Arms through Karoa and that it should be further sanctioned for doing so and I was trying to reach out to them and provoke them.
          Be this or that,the GoE a Legitimate Right to smuggle any thing let alone Arms to defend Eritrea while being sanctioned to the extent of not being allowed to but simple spare parts for its Air Crafts !
          But I ,again,I forgot that the SEMG can refer to Hope’s comment to implicate Eritrea for violating the Sanction Regime!’
          I guess you are right as the same corrupted SEMG believed the corrupted TPLF Junta for reporting it to the SEMG that the AU Summit Bombing Plot and the Ugandan Massacre were plotted by Eritrea and you believed that as well!!!!!
          Jella Jelalka Rebbi!
          Zeben Ghirinbid ni akeb!

          Hey Ustaz:
          FYI:
          From May 7-8,2016,there is going to be a huge Conference on The Blin Language and Culture Development in Lozan,Switzerland sponsored by Radio Blina!
          You are invited and welcome.
          I can handle for you the Round Trip ticket and the Lodging.!

          Tes,are you there?
          Can you hear me?
          Hope to see there but no punching there as it is Non-Boletica Zone!

          • Hope

            Read as:
            “Zeben Ghirinbid mai ni a’keb”!
            “The GoE has a Legitimate Right to smuggle anything in defense of Eritrea”!

    • ‘Gheteb

      Wo 2nd Cuz SAAY,

      I couldn’t agree more with main theme of your post that cooler heads need to prevail in these tense times between the countries of Eritrea and Ethiopia.

      But, but, but. Such kind of levelheadedness would only be possible had Eritrea and Ethiopia were located in some other supernal place with no history of wars aggression, occupation and psychological intimidations. That being the case, I think such times makes it that much important to speak straight-from-the-shoulder and impute culpability to the guilty party here.

      Here is my-seat-of-the pants timeline:

      (A) February 23, 2016: Ethiopian Prime minister Hailemariam Desalegn threatens to take “merciless” action against those who are wreaking havoc in some towns in the southern part of the country
      (B) February 25, 2016: ESAT TV reports that Ethiopia amassing troops and heavy artillery pieces on the Badme and Humera environs.
      (C) February 28th, 2016: Eritrea’s Ministry of Information issued a press release.
      One has to be exceedingly be honest here and put the horse in front of the cart. No need for shilly-shallying and unduly prevaricating just for the sake of appearing as an impartial observer. The main issue here is that Ethiopia is occupying a sovereign Eritrean territories and has a long record of saber rattling.
      What is more, is the fact that the ‘abduction’ issue is a moot point, because so many incursions and acts of sabotage that started from Ethiopia were taken against Eritrea. Nonetheless, non of these acts elicited the war hysteria and frenzy that Ethiopia has been displaying these days from Eritrea.
      I believe that Ethiopia is desperately trying to ignite some type of a military confrontations to divert and distract from the internal political problems it is facing.

      • saay7

        Selamat Gheteb Cuz II:

        I just read your first paragraph and stopped. Is there more? 😉

        I think shilly-shallying maybe my new favorite phrase. Is it like dilly-dallying on steroids?

        Ok, listen cousin. As a veteran of the Build Your Timeline, I know that for every timeline I create, an Ethiopia (say, Eyob) can create his own timeline that is just as real and as true to him. In fact, I do this with Eyob all the time: I share with him the AI report and HRC report on the Oromo uprising, on Dimtsachen Yisemma, on this and that to make one point: that Ethiopia has internal problems that it tries to externalize by going after one magic word that does the trick “Eritrea” or “Shaebia.” I don’t even mind you, as a private citizen, doing it. I just get disheartened when governments, who have been through this process before, do it.

        You are, I am sure, aware that both Eritrea and Ethiopia are required–per the Algiers Agreement that we want to be alive and kicking and some Ethiopians have proclaimed dead–to “permanently terminate military hostilities between themselves. Each party shall refrain from the threat or use of force against the other.” That is Article 1 of the Agreement. Ethiopia has, for the umpteenth time threatened use of force. Instead of writing a press release befitting something that would appear at a Paltalk session or Dehai Message Board, the Government of Eritrea should complain to the UN that Ethiopia is, once again, violating the terms of the Algiers Agreement.

        That is how grown up countries play the game.

        saay

        • ‘Gheteb

          Wo 2nd Cuz SAAY,

          You say:

          ” the Government of Eritrea should complain to the UN that Ethiopia is, once again, violating the terms of the Algiers Agreement”.

          That is a great point and I concur. But practically and HONESTLY speaking, besides claiming that it has lodged a complaint with the UN, what good can one expect from the UN and, um, the Algiers Agreement and whatnots, if Eritrea were to lodge a complaint? I mean what will be the upside of such a move by Eritrea?

          Another question to you is that don’t “grown up countries” also write stuff for local consumption?

          I ain’t as sanguine as you on this one, but I am all ears to ‘hear’ your two cents here.

          • saay7

            Ahlan Gheteb:

            The upside to lodging a complaint with the UN is that if the worst happens and somebody is investigating the cause and whether a military action is national defense or aggression, a complaint helps. Remember, when the EEBC was conducting its investigation, Eritrea’s claim that its action of May 12, 1998 was self-defense was not accepted because it was (a) disproportionate and (b) it hadn’t lodged a complaint with the UN.*

            Well, the difference between juvenile countries and grown up countries can best be exemplified in the typical press releases Arab countries use in response to Israeli threats (juvenile) and the press releases of Israel in response to Arab threats (grown up.) I am talking about the language of the press releases. See also Ukraine’s reply to Russia’s threats. When you heard Asmelash reading the paper handed to him by Yemane G, did you feel assured? Relieved? I mean press releases have a purpose.

            saay

  • Music Novice

    Greetings tes,

    Your statement does not seem to be sober.

  • Kokhob Selam

    Dear tes,
    you don’t have to say so just because you are angry. I know and I have an evidence you even suspect before the Eritrean opposition who are supported by EPRDF should be very careful and you use to ask a lot to find out if they are not sale-outs. So I am sure you will not support war in this two countries. we can’t destroy our nation just to remove a rat.. we can just catch it and yes we can. do you notice that on the past two months the opposition is destroying the security forces of PFDJ? That is going to happen continuously in coming months and count on me. be part of the people who oppose the war between those two nation and it is granted PFDJ will be removed by Eritreans heroes with very simple movement as our people are already ready and awaken.

    I want to you to be strong as usual.

    • tes

      Dear Kokhob Selam,

      This is not tes of Awate. Take note.

      tes

  • ‘Gheteb

    The Janus-Faced Weyane’s Spurious Casus Belli And The Editor’s Fire Hydrant

    Selam All,

    If the perfidiously duplicitous Weyanes as their wont are yet again thinking of manufacturing a faux casus belli this time, they are badly mistaken.

    If the two-timing Weyanes are contemplating of going fully nuclear and thereby unleashing an all out military offensive and aggression against Eritrea, then they are truly barking up the wrong tree.

    Should the Weyanes, like all their predecessor Abyssinian leaders, can’t tame the urges of going on the rampages of wars and aggressions, then their thinking is seriously all wet.

    But, Ethiopia proper is aflame with growing mass protests and mass upheavals. Before it started in Oromia and still raging and now it has, reportedly, spread to Gonder so much so that the road from Mekele to Shire and to Dabat are littered with stones that they are now impassable.

    If the Weyanes are under the illusion that their diversionary and externalizing tactics of igniting a war of aggression against Eritrea is going to solve the simmering unrest in Eritrea, then they are, again, they are wallowing in a fantastical daydream.

    Simply put, the Weyanes are wrong and dead wrong this time around to think that unleashing a war of aggression is their way out of the deep crisis that they find themselves in.

    Finally, the editor’s choice of a fire hydrant is appositely felicitous. Appositely because the fire hydrant is directed at the source of fire ( coming from Ethiopia with a strong and powerful water flow and felicitous because it accurately portrays the power of the strong water coming out of the fire hydrant of extinguishing and dousing that fire, er, the war conflagration that the Weyane are so recklessly are more than liable of igniting.

    The choice of a fire hydrant by the editor is a stroke of a genius, tout court !

    • Kim Hanna

      Selam Awatistas,
      .
      I wanted to post this revelation here to make sure the context and background stays the same.
      As an average Ethiopian, Getab has nothing to say to me and I have absolutely nothing to say to him. Nevertheless, everyone else need to see the actual and abstract picture here, the big picture so to speak.
      .
      I am questioning whether this Getab and that AMAN are one and the same person. The illogic planet they come from is the same. The detachment and floating style is the same among other characteristics.
      Pulling it all together, it becomes very clear to me. During the day I believe, AMAN/Getab, uses a hand held device to post his thoughts. The thoughts, as they are, are concise and methodical, a sense of being rushed is noticeable. I contend that it is probably because he is in traffic or is at work.
      Now GETAB is AMAN when he get home to his studio apartment. He is a little relaxed, a little calm, and puts on his game face to defend Eritrea.
      He has a large desk with a lot of papers on it. On the desk besides the computer, he has several editions of over used thesaurus books. The dominant feature of the apartment is the one legged podium where the world’s largest English dictionary, opened two third of the way, stand.
      The long posts you read and enjoy emanates from this apartment.
      .
      I said revelation today because the acid test of AMAN/Getab’s interpretation (his mind) of what he sees (his eyes) is a testament and proof positive of his warped being.
      .
      The Picture:
      As a hardliner, one can say that the fire hydrant and water is directed to douse out the Arab occupation force at ASEB.
      At the other end one can also say the fire hydrant and water is directed to a troubled area to bring calm and tranquility.
      Either of these statements do justice to The Picture, NOT his …choice of a fire hydrant is appositely felicitous.
      .
      I prey that the picture is not altered to protect the guilty.
      .
      Mr. K.H
      P.S:
      I say Getab intentionally, as in etiobia.

      • Amde

        Ato KH,

        Haha… I don’t know who is going to be more offended… AMAN or Gheteb.

        Gheteb is simple and just a run of the mill reactionary, but likes to brandish his impressive vocabulary.

        AMAN is a tortured soul who has yet to make up his mind as to whether or not he is Ethiopian or Eritrean. He wants to place the Eritrrean Ghedli as a worthy chapter of Ethiopian (sorry Abyssinuan) history. For someone like Gheteb obsessed with “Abyssinian fundamentalism”, you can see how this would be a no no.

        It is just not clear who AMAN is conversing with…. his posts could almost be read as if they are separate paragraphs from one piece, each posted on a separate forum, or separate thread. Almost like some kind of performance art.

        Amde

        • Dis Donc

          Sir Amde,
          That is quite an observation!

        • Kim Hanna

          Selam Amde,
          .
          Oh, I forgot about that “Abyssinian Fundamentalism” thingy, whatever it means, and I don’t need it explained to me. He does not like Abyssinians, does he?
          Thanks, Amde, now I have to go back to the drawing board. I have to see what that T.T is writing these days, to compare and contrast.
          .
          Dis Donc,
          .
          Did you miss the “banana pill”, or not?
          .
          Mr. K.H

          • Dis Donc

            Dear Kim Hanna,
            What do you mean? Explain a little.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Dis Donc,
            .
            The man who goes to great length to show off his vocabulary made a slight mistake in using a simple little word, banana pill instead of banana peel. When I make that mistake, it is no big deal but he..
            .
            Sorry, it was a silly attempt at a humor at Getab’s expense.
            .
            Mr. K.H

          • Dis Donc

            Dear Kim,
            Ja Ja Ja. Kimmy, you are so funny. Sorry to disappoint you but I do not read comments from one-dimensional fads.

  • Lamek

    tes, I fully support your idea. It’s long overdue for the Ethiopians to help us get rid of IA. We will all be better off.

    • Music Novice

      Greetings Lamek,

      Will you join the Ethiopian army in their attack if given the chance?

      • Lamek

        MN, If I were in any position to do so, yes I wouldn’t flinch to destroy IA and PFDJ. It would be the best gift for all of us to taste life without Isaias Afewerki. Like I said the other day, he has so much blood in his hands and too much unfiltered whiskey in his livers. Weyane would be doing him a favor by getting him out of his miseries. I begged dawit to do it for all of us, including for IA, but he refused. Now our friends harbegnatat tegaru may do it for us. I welcome that with everything I have.

        • Music Novice

          Lamek,

          You did not answer my question. I asked: “Will you join the Ethiopian army in their attack if given the chance?”, meaning in their attack against a sovereign country. But you are talking about destroying “IA and PFDJ”, which is something else.

          • Lamek

            Music Novice, Please re-read my first sentence. Your question has a conditional part on it. “Will you…if…” implies that I have not been granted the chance. So there goes my answer in the first sentence in my first reply. Sounds like you can help me get a chance to go fight IA and PFDJ. Make it happen for me. I like hope to come with me. He can take some exersice there in the mountains.

  • Peace!

    tes, my man

    What happen! did you just format your brain? You sound empty, sorry.

    Peace!

    • tes

      Dear Peace!

      tes you are addressing and tes who wrote for what you are responding are different.

      Just to reaffirm my position; At any time I won’t support Ethiopian Invasion for what ever reason it is.

      tes

  • Nitricc

    Dear Awetawyan; the following statement was made by none but the the most irresponsible and disrespectful, tes. he for the recored he declared,
    ” i fully support Ethiopia ones and for all to get rid off this dirty dictator and his weyto from the face of this planet”
    from his hideous and stupid remarks; he has no problem if the Eritrean children are massacred by his Ethiopian masters. yes, take a look the children Tes sentenced to death. Now, officially Tes has approved The TPLF to invade Eritrea. just for the recored. I know; he will deny tomorrow and that is why i am bring this to the front.
    tes, look at the kids you sentenced to death by your Weyane mercenaries. Nahhhhhh, they will be all-oaky! hypocrite.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMQpRapVpvQ

    • Lamek

      Nitricc, don’t pretend like you care about Eritrean children from your comfort home in the west. The most responsible person for the suffering of erirean children is Issayas afiwerki and his PFDJ. I also fully support the Ethiopian govt to get rid of these criminals on behalf of the poor Eritrean people. I don’t know why they are taking too long.

      • ‘Gheteb

        Lamek,

        You said:

        ” I don’t know why they are taking too long”.

        Could it possibly be that they are waiting for you to come and join them. Just a thought!

        • Lamek

          Gheteb, I can see how afraid you are. I think this time around PFDJ ain’t gonna survive. I blame melles for all of this. He should have marched to Asmara back in 2000. Hade kisara mikonelna. Anyway, if I am called for duty by weyane, I will go and help rid of IA. I will sypathize with you that weyane are no angels. But as far as the Eritrean people are concerned, the one and only enemy they have is Isaias Afwerki. Taking that blood thirsty hound out will be the biggest victory in Eritrean history, more so than Independence Day. This will be liberation and independence all at once. To that end, I am ready for duty.

          • dawit

            Lamek,
            The 100% Eritrean blood asked the other day dawit to help him get rid of PIA. Now he seems to find another dumb from the south to realize his dream of 25 years. He pretends that he will volunteer for Woyane to kill Eritrean children! Amazing, to see how a 100% sick Eritrean mind operates. Lamek, a little advise, from your friend dawit. Do not eat ‘Kitfo’ raw meat, not good for your stomach or brain. Eat gaat masala or bultug
            dawit

          • Lamek

            Dear dawit, the unfortunate people amongst us who inherit cancer go through chemotherapy, not because it is super fun or 100% safe or effective but they do what they have to do. In our case, IA is the cancer of the Eritrean people. So to make sure this cancer doesn’t engulf our cells completely, we will need to fight is a less potent ‘disease’ albeit some side effects. I support anyone whose mission is to destroy IA, anyone. What a curse has he been!

      • Nitricc

        Hey LAMEK here is what your stupid leader has to say lol

        http://s10.postimg.org/v2zuk3o9l/hailemariam_Des.png

    • Peace!

      Dear Nitric,

      This diversion tactic is a blessing in disguise that now we know we have new dumb weyane infiltors who think invasion kills only Eritrean children or as dawit said, poor Oromo ፈንጂ ረጋጭ . Isn’t tha sad!

      Peace!

    • tes

      Selamat Nirticc,

      Haha, before you quote, refer who is to be quoted.

      tes

  • kazanchis

    Hello everyone! Eritrean regime has been restless in provocative activities and Ethiopia needs to reprimand this behavior significantly. All issues and disagreement have to be sorted only on around the table, the way things have been handled so far shouldn’t be allowed to keep going. It’s time to stop the boring game between the two sides. Eritrean regime must be pressurized until it embraces negotiation as the only way out.
    War wouldn’t be a sensible retaliation from Ethiopian side. Even though, the military prowess of Ethiopia at the moment is unparalleled with that of Eritrea.

    • dawit

      Dear kazanchis;
      What did you hear about restless situation in Eritrea? Youth appraisal disturbances in Asmara or Massawa? I think you may be talking about youth in Oromia, Tou must have some problem with geography.
      You also wrote “It’s time to stop the boring game between the two sides. Eritrean regime must be pressurized until it embraces negotiation as the only way out”. I think your are idea may work with the boys at Popolare, but not with the boys from Gezabanda’. They would not mind negotiation after you return the wallet you stole.”የሌባ ዓይነደረቅ መልሶ ልብ ያደርቅ”

      • kazanchis

        Hi Dawit, the demand of Oromo youth in few districts of Oromia is a legitimate question as a citizen. They are making their voices heard because Ethiopia accommodates dissent way better than Eritrea. I hope their concerns addressed soon. Eritrean youths would have done the same but there is no rule of law as it has been proved there’s rule of fear.
        Since both sides cut off ties Ethiopia showed a tangible progress and reducing abject poverty massively despite population growth. Within ten years time Ethiopia might be considered as middle income nation. In the contrary, Isayas has killed the bright future of Eritrea. He discouraged entrepreneurship and he spent the country’s resources to military and financing rebels across the region. He let the people down by just pushing the youth and minors out of country. I suspect you’re one of the victim but you are in something like Stockholm syndrome. If you would like to prove me wrong by providing facts I’d accept and correct myself. Otherwise, just don’t brag and jump here and there. It is shocking there are still a lot of pro-isayas, not alarmed by what’s happening to their people. That’s depressing!

        • Dear Kazanchis,

          Long time ago, I knew a woman in Addis, who happened to be one of the extremely poor. Well, poverty is part of our life, nevertheless hers was really difficult. Her friend, who happened to be equally poor, started to complain about the injustice of society. To my surprise, the first woman turned around, and with a stern look, said, “I could be poor, but never forget that I am born a Mojja”. This is a real story. You should know that arrogant Eritrean ultra-nationalists have the same attitude.

          • kazanchis

            Dear Horizon, it is equally sad and funny my brother. I know some ultras are hard to deal with, but I think that kind of mentality is down to lack of knowledge and maturity.
            No race, nationality and tribe is superior than the other. The more the society filled with educated and matured citizens the less the conflicts would get. Prosperous and stable Eritrea would offer a lot of positives than the opposite to Ethiopia and vise versa. Some people totally lost common sense in their vains.
            Cheers!

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear kazachis,

            Yes you got it.

            it is one type of ISISISM – EXTREMISM. every time you will have this type of people in every society. You have noted from people who are Muslmis – the religion that leads to peace- the religion that even instruct not to kill the goat without her readiness and to take her soul without any pain ( if you chap wrong way you are not allowed to eat the meat in Islam) – we witnessed ISIS – when I was learning Islam QurAn in Ethiopia I never thought and imagined I will witness Muslims kill people at all. you know very well about it but I am giving you example.

            this is some sort of sickness, all world should work how to cure it and find the solution.like what they are doing with pollution and all other problems. this is the struggle we all should all participate.

          • kazanchis

            Dear Kokhob,
            I totally agree with you. We all need to start to learn coexistence. Extrmism do exist in many forms like you said.
            I grew up with Muslims, too. They are the most kind people I ever known, specially the elderly ones. 🙂 We shockingly seem to be back pedaling my brother.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam kazanchis and dawit,
            .
            It was soooooo interesting to read your cordial exchanges. It brought a lot of memory.
            I went to Asfaw Wesson school in my youth, way before your time. (Asfaw Wesson was an elementary school in Kazanchis)
            I lived half way between Tito house (Yugoslavia Embassy) and Point Four.
            I grew up with Eritrean friends. Even though they were 10, 11, 12 years old and came to Addis few years earlier, they had an attitude of Asmara VS Addis life of the time.
            Growing up a little, at Tefari Makonnen high school, the Eritrean kids were happy Ethiopians as long as everyone accepted that they were a cut above the rest. Those innocuous adjustments and elbowing grew and took political implications. Instead of gelling and solidifying these feelings were expanded and nurtured by the University students.
            The traditional enemies of Ethiopia found a weak link in the chain and expanded it further to exploit it to the fullest.
            .
            I was reading your discussions with that belief and background of mine.
            It was heart warming to see what is possible. An Ethiopian and an Eritrean talking like dawit and kazanchis, at least in these few exchanges, without the harsh tone we normally use. I am as guilty as the next one on this.
            Yes, I get frustrated with dawit at times when he clings to PIA. (he referred to him as Jesus Christ once)
            I believe, I could be wrong, but partially dawit and co. cling to PIA tightly because they see nightmare scenarios without him.
            .
            Further contributor to such a phenomena is, the Eritrean diaspora discussion of utopian government and administration models that scares dawit as it does me. When fate gives you two choices, PMMZ vs Idi Amin, types of dictatorship, one should not choose a Swedish Socialist model.
            .
            I hope you two continue, whether you agree with me or not, without giving up.
            Who knows big trees start with tiny little seeds.
            .
            Mr. K.H

          • kazanchis

            Dear Kim,

            Thanks a lot for your appreciation. It was easy to get along with Dawit despite our differences, he stood up for what he believed with kindness. Credits to him.

            Yugoslavia embassy surrounding has been demolished and they developed the area and have you been there recently? The embassy belongs to Serbia today.

            BR,
            Kazanchis

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam kazanchis,
            .
            Yes, I was there in 99 and 2000. The OAU wall was across my home, which was standing at the time. Later on I learned all that area was cleared off and now high rises are standing in its place.
            .
            Mr. K.H

          • dawit

            Dear kazanchis;

            Thank you kazanchis for avoiding the Hate bait Horizon was throwing to you. That was part of the poison Hate politics used to mobilize the poor Tigrian mass to war against Eritreans. People like Horizon are programed with hate politics. They accuse ‘Eritreans are Arrogant” same technique used before against Amara population.

        • dawit

          Hi kazanchis,

          You are one of the millions miss educated Ethiopians who went to school and programed to hate Eritrea. It is hard to free yourself from the propaganda you were force-fed for decades. You don’t know Isaias, you have never mate him, never spoke to him or even seen him in person, except may be on TV or read about him and seen his picture some pro Ethiopian propaganda Magazine.. But you can confidently speak evil about him, how he has killed, discouraged entrepreneurship, spent his nation money military etc. Dear kazanches how do you explain that you can raise your hand in front of God and testify against the person you don’t know who is not even a leader of your country. You know kazanches, believe or not your EPRDF was a direct creation of President Isaias.Do you think Meles or TPLF came with that idea? Before Meles betrayed Eritrea and Isaias, he used to travel to Asmara, every week taking dictation from Isaias, and spit it in Ethiopian parliament in Addis. How do you think Isaias declared Eritrean Independence if Meles and the Ethiopian parliament approved it unanimously endorsed and sent the document to UN. Next time when you talk about him you should address him as President Isaias. Just a little lesson on mannerism. About Ethiopia becoming middle class country, good luck. Read the following document it may give some clue about the man you blindly condemn.

          https://tassew.wordpress.com/2010/01/03/relationship-between-eprp-eplf-and-tplf/

          • kazanchis

            Dear Dawit, I didn’t say anything for you to judge me as a hater of Eritrea. I criticized Isayas for his mismanagement of Eritrea, that’s all. To address him as President; he hasn’t been elevated to that post through election. I have this difficulty. Pardon me! Eritrea as a country is very big but very small in terms of demographic statistics: approximately 5 million. How on earth could it be possible for this small country to be referred synonymous with immigration? Why the youth flees? Do you think I just skewed the whole thing and deviate myself from reality? Blaming Ethiopia and US all day every day that’s what Isayas has been doing. Fine! Let’s assume he is right. What has he done to avert the mass exodus of the youth and to revive the economy? You can’t just cover the smoke by blaming others. Meles betrayed Eritrea and Isayas… this is the most ridiculous argument my brother. Meles didn’t sworn in to serve Eritrea, did he? “Eritrea legelachin, Ethiopia yegarachin” This sort of relationship was the problem, it was a castle built on the sand. In order to love your country you really don’t need to hate your neighbor.
            I feel for you because you are in deep form of cult of personality. You need to see Eritrea is bigger than just a single person. Accept criticism as constructive feedback than just a mere insult. Eritrea, if it gets a proper political system the future is still brighter.

            Peace!

          • dawit

            Dear Kazanchis,
            Ok kazanchis may be it is not fair for me to put you in the basket of all Eritrean haters, accept my mistake. I was encouraged by the reply you wrote to one of habitual haters at AT forum Horizon.
            However You followed your accusation of Eritrea from what you read in the news. In the last 15 years writing bad things about Eritrea and its leadership is a business and many journalists have made a career.
            1. Her is some fact, Eritrea the small country with very dry climate, with less rain, less fertile lands from its neighbors, not any major river is able food sufficient country in horn of Africa. Why?
            2. Ethiopia occupies Eritrean territory illegally.
            3. US and Ethiopia imposed sanction on Eritrea, even though, both countries armed Al Shabab
            4. Immigration, there may be more Ethiopian and Africans migrate more than Eritrean, but they all claim as Eritreans.
            .

          • kazanchis

            Dear Dave, thanks for your kind reply. I see that you are Eritrean regime supporter. I got no problem with that but you have to question your stand all the time. I’m quite sure you’re an intelligent man. I’m more interested in policy and development strategies. That’s what I’ve studied.
            Ethiopian regime does stupid things now and then. I understand! As Eritrean you can beg to differ and criticize it. That’s pretty decent thing to do. But what about the lawlessness? Why does the Asmara regime afraid to negotiate and make their stands known? Than to just complain about external forces? A democratic Eritrea would be far more stronger than the present Eritrea. It’s sovereignty would be much more ensured with constitution and parliament. I’m sure you people have paid a price for the entire nation to be in such political system. Isn’t it?
            You can defend weyane and US with those institutions better for sure. But again, we all know that’s just an excuse.

            Cheers!

          • dawit

            Dear Kazanchis,

            Thanks again for your kind reply. I like the name Kazanchis, I started school at Asfaw Wesn school years ago. Are you from that area? Well I like to discuss issues with anyone interested I care. Let us first establish some protocol. I like to use Ethiopian government, Eritrean government. So I am Eritrean Government supporter. Now you said you are interested in policy and development strategies, we can divide Economic or political policy. That is fine with me. Before we move further let me define for you who I am, I am an Eritrean and an Ethiopian. I claim both nationalities. I love Eritrea and I love Ethiopia. Many people find it strange her at AT, but that what I am. Your questions:

            1.But what about the lawlessness? There is no lawlessness in Eritrea. I have travelled through out the country and never encounter or observed any criminal activities. There is a security concern in the country and you have to identify yourself in many places, they check you ID. There is a national service for all Eritreans above 18 years old, and most assigned in different capacities and must have paper why they left their assigned duty places.

            2.Why does the Asmara regime afraid to negotiate and make their stands known?
            Now that is interesting question coming from an Ethiopian? Let us you sat and negotiated with some one and you reach an agreement, you fulfilled you part of the agreement and the other side refused to honor agreement and then he want you to negotiate again? What kind of logic is this? Why negotiate again on something you already negotiated. What guaranty do you give that you are going to honor the next negotiation? Do you think the Eritrean Government is made up of dumb people? PIA said you move out the Eritrean occupied land in the morning and we can sit and negotiate any thing you want to negotiate same afternoon. Does that indicate to you the Eritrean Government afraid to negotiate?

            3. Than to just complain about external forces? Again as an Ethiopian you should know Ethiopian government is occupying Eritrean sovereign territory illegally by force. That is not a hypothetical assumption but real occupation.

            4. A democratic Eritrea would be far more stronger than the present Eritrea. It’s sovereignty would be much more ensured with constitution and parliament. I’m sure you people have paid a price for the entire nation to be in such political system. Isn’t it?
            Do you think the Eritrean government does not want for Eritrea to have a constitution and parliament etc. Eritrea was in the process of writing a constitution and preparing for an election when Ethiopian government fabricated and invaded the country derailing every thing worked out for the kind of government you are talking. The Eritrean constitution and parliament is direct victim of Ethiopian invasion and occupation. Yes Eritreans paid heavily to form a democratic government, but how can that be accomplished when you big neighbor, supported by Super Power manipulated UN, AU, IGAD etc and put sanction not to protect your land and at the same threatening you with ‘regime change’ agenda every six months. How many times have you heard PMMZ and PMHD talk of regime change?

          • kazanchis

            Hello again Dawit,

            I think we have irreconcilable differences in our opinion and I believe its better not to argue any further. Yes, Ethiopia occupied Badme and maybe others but putting border and demarcating isn’t easy as you know. The people have lived in peace and tranquility for centuries before these regimes exist. Is it fair just to demarcate without any considerations? Separate relatives into two and put a wall and solider with snipper between them? I really don’t think so. One more thing which I noted as mistake was you pictured Ethiopia as an aggressor and invader. My dear Dawit, this is totally wrong because the Eritrean government have took responsibility and admitted that it invaded Ethiopia during the truce back in 2000. I suppose that even if they are the invaders that is not the whole story maybe they find something unacceptable by then and in my view they retaliated with invasion. I could be wrong but its my assumption. I hope you would make the correction in here.
            Yes, I am from Kazanchis and I wouldn’t lie I was shocked to read that you were also from my area, too. I wouldn’t hesitate to beg your apology if I offended you throughout the trend. I went to Zenebework primary school and Misrak comprehensive high school. I have many Eritrean friends and I see them as people of my own. I don’t belong to hatred and war mongering camp, love only heal our wounds.
            As I said, we can agree not to disagree I don’t have stomach to argue with Kazanchis guy anymore. I can accept and get on with it. 🙂 I don’t know how we could be in touch this platform isn’t convenient to keep in touch and stay connected.

            Stay blessed!

          • dawit

            Dear Kazanchis,

            Thank you again for your response. You wrote “I think we have irreconcilable differences in our opinion and I believe its better not to argue any further.” I think my friend there is no such thing as ‘irreconcilable difference” perhaps that may be the reason we always rush to war instead of keep on negotiating through compromises of give and take until we reach to a common position. Unfortunately we don’t want to go the long road to arrive at a peaceful solution, instead we drop everything and rush to war. For what ever unknown reason to me we think compromise as a defeat and not the road for win-win.
            The last border was exactly what happened PMMZ drop out of the negotiation early, while PIA was begging him to talk. Ok Eritrea first ‘invaded’ Bademe, in reality they took what was their legally. PMMZ refused to talk with his ‘friend’ PIA unless Eritrea pull out of Bademe! So Eritrea refused and Ethiopia or PMMZ went shopping for arms and used Ethiopian Parliament to declare war on Eritrea, of course with mentality of his predecessors Haile Selassie and Mengistu Ya we have more population than tiny Ethiopia, we can recruit more soldiers from Ethiopian poor boys and girls (ጋላ ቢሞት ጋላ ይተካል). In the mean time things got complicated others enter the dispute as middle men between the two leaders. Djibouti, Ruanda and USA shuttling between Asmara and Addis Ababa, taking messages between the two leaders. Can you imagine Djibouti to be an honest broker who stood to benefit if the war escalate as the alternative port for Ethiopia instead of using Assab and Massawa? Any way they took side with Ethiopia pressuring Eritrea to pull out of Bademe and go after for Arbitration through AU with Algeria being in charge of the negotiation. Certainly that was creasy, the two leaders who knew each others languages Amharic and Tigrigna could have picked the telephone talk and understand better each other position to reach a compromise position to avoid war. But it was reported PMMZ refused to pick PIA’s call. Here is one point I can criticize PIA, he should have compromised and pull out of Bademe, and waited for the arbitration knowing Badme belongs to Eritrea. He failed to do that, may be he misjudged Meles’s determination to go for all out war. Any way the rest is history. You also tried to link negotiation for border demarcation and Ethiopia pulling from the occupied Eritrean territories. These are two separate issues. Borders divides families through out the world, that is a lame excuse to continue occupation and aggressions. Why are you concerned about families being separated because of border demarcation, when you didn’t care when you turned their farms and villages into a battle ground, littered with explosives? What difference will make if my brother lives on the other side of the border and I live on this side, we are both poor farms on either side of the border, would there be any border police prevent us from visiting each other?
            Let me not bother you any more. But believe me my friend if people in either side give up easily to reach a compromise, the next round of war is coming. Pressuring PIA to negotiate against his principle is futile. We are talking about a man who stood his ground in what he believed. His leadership has been tested since he was a teenager joining the Eritrean Armed Struggle for half a century (50 years) facing all kinds of obstacles and the next war will be another one . The only thing that will prevent it for Ethiopia to do the right thing inside its territory deal with youth and the natural drought situation and pull out of the land that doesn’t belong to it. Trying to export its problem to Eritrea will be disastrous to both people.
            Regards,
            dawit

          • kazanchis

            Hey Dawit,
            I used the term “irreconcilable” because the way Eritrean regime ruling without any democratic and civil institutions often masked due to the fact of border issues with Ethiopia. For me it’s weak argument and for others it’s the right way. In the meantime, the Eritrean people deprived of their own right to enjoy the fruits of democracy. This is where the difference lies between us.

            It’s so sad we went through unnecessary war for simple misunderstanding. But PIA calls were rejected/unanswered by Meles is kind of new to me. Many countries tried to deescalate the tension asked Eritrea to pull out its troops and then PIA’s famous quote came: “leaving Badme means the sun stopped rising and setting”

          • kazanchis

            Hey Dawit,
            I used the term “irreconcilable” because the way Eritrean regime ruling without any democratic and civil institutions often masked due to the fact of border issues with Ethiopia. For me it’s weak argument and for others it’s the right way. In the meantime, the Eritrean people deprived of their own right to enjoy the fruits of democracy. This is where the difference lies between us.

            It’s so sad we went through unnecessary war for simple misunderstanding. But PIA calls were rejected/unanswered by Meles is kind of new to me. Many countries tried to deescalate the tension asked Eritrea to pull out its troops and then PIA’s famous quote came: “leaving Badme means the sun stopped rising and setting”. There was no intent of negotiation and compromise in Eritrean side whatsoever. Ethiopia begged for it and snubbed by Eritrea. You as Eritrean and me as Ethiopian cannot change the fact. It’s all documented in international arbitration signed by PIA himself.
            Djibouti benefited from the rift and secured it’s deals gently. I’m sure you won’t expect them to work against their interests. I believe the Ethio-Djibouti relationship is an excellent example for all of the countries in the horn. They both are working for economic integration at the moment and many memorandum of understanding have been signed and PMHD have addressed the Djibouti parliament after that signature and the Djibouti president also said if the people of the two nations agreed we can be united. There’s a fast electric locomotive which takes only ten hours from the port of Djibouti to the heart of Addis. In few months it will be commenced. Ethiopia and Eritrea should bury the hatchet and focus on developing their respective countries and benefit their people. For me there shouldn’t be any ifs and buts on this.
            Greetings!
            Kazanchis

      • Kokhob Selam

        Dear dawit,

        If you love it or not you are an Ertirean and you should accept this reality which will allow you also to swallow what is going on in Eritrea and no one will say to you “ኣድጊ ዘይብሉስ በቅሊ የናሹ “, otherwise here is Ethiopia and here is Eritrea to see, you know dawitom if you are angry because Meles deported you, you can go again to be an Ethiopian and enjoy your dawitism. or say the truth and challenge PFDJ forgetting Ethiopia for Ethiopians – let them experience their constitution – they way it fits to them.

        Ethiopian population when I was 3rd grade was 23 million during majesty rule. Mengstu has killed a lot, drought has killed a lot and war with Somali, and with those TPLF,ELF,EPLF, etc has killed a lot. today Ethiopian population is more than 3 times. people are more energetic and industrious now but are also with high expectation of everything. politically, everyone has become politician. today, unlike before where Eritreans were holding technical or any sort of job is moving and advancing. EPRDF is leading a nation full of challenges. Yet, remember the leadership more or less has a rule to govern and democracy even to lower stage is working where you don’t find in most African countries. Add on this all how the world is heading fast.

        EPLF had more better ground to depart toward peace and prosperity. to start with. unlike the wise Meles(RIP). your boss didn’t allow any party to come and work —even went narrow to have PFDJ. Then go on listing all the mistakes he calculated wrong including Badme’s case . Eritreans ( people ) didn’t challenge and confront PFDJ. even with only one party, if there was some advancement PFDJ could have survived. PFDJ don’t have democracy and don’t have bread and don’t have even polite face. nothing good. “ኣይ ፊቱ ኣይ ፍትፊቱ ” instead I heard people describing this group — ናግራም – ረባሺ – ተቛያቂ – ቀናእ – ሓሳድ – ክፍእ – ቀታሊ – ኣሳሪ – ሓራዲ – ተጠራጣሪ -ተስፋ ኣልቦ – ጭንጋፍ -ተናኮለኛ – መባኣሲ – ኣቃጣሪ – ርኹስ ኣራኻሲ – መርገጽ ኣልቦ – ስራቒ – ለሗኺ- ጸቢብ –(ቴስታ ዲጋሊና ) add more …. description of your party. How can you talk about Ethiopian leadership? devil has rejected to be named PFDJ my friend. Lol. I now you will again tell me that I am chewing tobacco-

        • dawit

          Dear Kokhob,

          No my friend you have surpass chewing tobacco.

          1. I don’t deny my Eritrean-ness and support PFDJ, I visited Eritrea few times and I like what I saw. I like ‘Bottom-up Democracy’ practiced in Eritrea.

          2. No body deported me I go frequently to visit Ethiopia I don’t support EPRDF and its leaders and I don’t like what is going in the country. I don’t like Top to Bottom or trickledown democracy or economy’ .

          3. I don’t support Revenge politics, in which you are immersed. ELF/EPLF civil war is over
          ወድቆ መፈራገጥ ለመላላጥ.
          4. I have both Eritrean and Ethiopian National ID cards.

          • Kokhob Selam

            Dear dawit,
            you are really wonderful guy. I can’t describe you at all. in this case Dawitism needs another description and full of book explanation. really if you are honest in what you are saying, I will simply be silent I am speechless. I tried all those words to put on you but none can qualify. none, please help me find words

            ተበላጺ – ፈታው ነብሱ – በላዕ ክልተ ስጋ – በጣሲ ማዕተቡ – those all are nothing and only I have to appreciate you as you are the first man whom I can’t see to which he belongs. simply you are wonderful. I will continue to love you. in fact I love you today more than before – as you are an experience nature was left to tell me.

          • dawit

            Dear Kokobay,

            I like you too. Let us see what you have for today’ besides Meshrefet 100% local, Eritrean made, with 100% Lakha,

            ተበላጺ : Yes Dawit hate losing, he all ways want to win. I like this quote “Winners talk less and do more. Losers talk more and do less.”

            – ፈታው ነብሱ: Yes, always act in his own self-interest, lesson learned from Adams Smith, the ‘Father of Economics”. The man who revolutionaries economic thought that the Industrial Revolution starting in England.

            – በላዕ ክልተ ስጋ – I like Chicken and Beef and sometimes mutton that makes him ‘belA selest siga’

            በጣሲ ማዕተቡ: Never had MAteb to be torn. Born and raised Protestant, Lutheran. Follower of Martin Luther, the man who lead rebellion against the Pope oppression against his people. Started printing the Bible in ordinary languages instead of the ‘Reserved’ Latin. Issued free passport to heaven to any one than to go through the Pope Immigration Office at The Vatican. Issued Direct line communication with God, from anywhere at any time, 24/7/365 for life time contract.

          • Kokhob Selam

            dawitom,

            I told you I have nothing to say. those all what you put above are not from me. I didn’t describe you as such. the reason I put them was to show you all couldn’t match you. but dawitom, who told you ተበላጺ is winner? ተበላጺ is always loser, he even lose everything including respect. you are not the one.. and who told you ፈታው ነብሱ only acts in his own self interest, ፈታው ነብሱ manipulated circumstances and try to enjoy over others death. you are not the one. who told you በላዕ ክልተ ስጋ means the meat – በላዕ ክልተ ስጋ is the one who plays by jumping from principle to principle to satisfy his ego..and you are not the one. በጣሲ ማዕተቡ is not about ማዕተብ but it is about his believe and a man who is not trusted but that is not you.

            you see you are not all the above you are not even dawit, you are not IA you are unique.

          • dawit

            Kokhobay
            Indeed Unique

  • Music Novice

    Greetings josef,

    “Two bald men fighting over a comb.” – The Economist, 1998.

  • Hayat Adem

    Hi The House of Awate,
    I hope nothing goes more towards escalating the stand-off. We need to voice our disapproval of any war or sorts as loud as possible. The 1998 war did meet adequate voices of disapproval from cool headed people ON both sides. This one, if true, should not grow to escalate without meeting our roar of disapproval.
    That said,these days, I’m being humbled by more and more materials are coming out from prolific writers and thinkers to keep the awakening Eritreans alive and going. I invite you to read the entire article from none other than the coolest bellesliterist Amanuel Sahle. It is like you ordered your favorite food, paid for it in full, but ended up having a different one, and yet your being constantly bombarded nonstop by a propaganda, the food you get is exactly the one you paid for. Not just true, but beautifully true, Amanuel. Keep the pen flowing with truth and style.
    Here is a taste of the “እተቐየረ ራእይ” for you:
    እቲ ካብ ኩሉ ዝኸፍአ ግን፡ እቲ መሪሕነት ወይ ስርዓት ነቲ ህዝቢ “ራኢኻ ኣግሂድናልካ፡” እናበለ ምልፍላፉ እዩ። ካልእ ምስሊ ኤርትራ ኣቕሪቡሉ ክነሱ፡ እዚ እዩ እቲ መበቆላዊ ራእይ እናበለ ንህዝቢ ምትላሉ ይቕጽል ኣሎ። ይኹንምበር፡ ምስሊ ኤርትራ ኣብ ሜዳ እዩ ተዘሪጉ። ብናይ ፖለቲካዊ ቍርቍስ ደሮና ተዓብሊሉ፡ ዘይንፈልጦ ስእሊ ኤርትራ ኣምጺኡልና። እቲ መሪሕነት፡ እቲ ምስሊ ቅኑዕ ምዃኑ ኣብ ኣእምሮ ህዝቢ ንምስራጽ፡ ጌና ዘይሕለል ፕሮፓጋንዳ የካይድ ኣሎ። ነቲ ባዕሉ ዝፈጠሮ ምስሊ ኤርትራ ከም ህዝባዊ ራእይ ንምምሳል፡ ነቲ ራእይ ናብቲ ቅኑዕ ተምሳሉ ኣብ ክንዲ ምቕያር፡ ነቲ ናይቲ ህዝቢ ኣእምሮ ኪቕይሮ ምፍታኑ፡ ሓደን ቀንድን ገበን ናይዚ ዘሎ ስርዓት እዩ። THANKS.
    Hayat
    http://assenna.com/%E1%8A%A5%E1%89%B0%E1%89%90%E1%8B%A8%E1%88%A8-%E1%88%AB%E1%8A%A5%E1%8B%AD/

    • dawit

      Dear Hayat’

      And what will be that new voice? We don’t need full blown war, let us have ‘Surgical War’. Reason we may not have enough ፈንጅ ረጋጭ ወታደር from Oromia, Ogadenia, and Gambella. Lets have ‘Surgical war’ instead of full blown war! says General Haiat.and Genertal Kokhob approved it.

      • Asmerom

        Dear Dawit
        Why don’t u use ur God given brain for the betterment of our nation and the well being of our people and for relations with nations around us . No one is going to benefit from war it’s a destruction. Do you think the ethnic groups that you mentioned from Ethiopia are the only one who are going to die ? What about from our nation Eritrea you think they are invisible and no body dies ? Please instead of entertaining even the slightest idea of war come to your senses and preach peace where everyone benefits . Remember you are not the one to die and suffer if war breaks.
        Thank you

        • dawit

          Dear Asmerom,
          You are misreading Dawits mind. Dawit does not support any war of aggression be it surgical all full blown. war. Dawit only support war for self defense against habitual war mongers and aggressors. Dawit cares for the lives of all Eritreans and Ethiopians, because they are all his people, he does not make any distinctions. I completely agree with you war is a destruction and you can search every thing that I wrote in this forum, which support your assertion about dawit support for war. Dawit also oppose all hypocrites who preach peace, but actually work day and night for war.

  • Peace!

    Dear all,

    ፅምብላሊዕሲ ማዓኮራ ከይከደነት መርየት ከደነት! How about feeding the twenty million people and spare their life first, let alone the internal Oromo uprising which is forcing the country to withdraw its troops from Somalia and South Sudan and redeploy them into already burning region? How about lowering the gas price so the poor taxi drivers can end the strike and go back to work to feed their family?

    It sounds joke (diversion) as usual unless the Oromo blood they are drinking driving them crazy.

    Peace!

    • Hayat Adem

      Peace,
      Do you do something else with your mouth other than eating and speaking? PFDJ told us in 1998 that Ethiopia wouldn’t dare take a risk to fight us because of its weak economy, ill-prepared military, divided people etc. Then, there was drought. Then, there was also election fever. Isaias was talking FeraEferaE, you probably were talking the same thing. And, you know what happened, don’t you? 30000 Eritreans perished for the sake of Isaias’s adventurist ego, and purposeless risk. So why don’t you live your name?

      • Peace!

        Dear Hayat,

        Excuse me! What else did I say other than basically TPLF should feed its people and improve people’s life than beating war drums, and please which part of my comment do you think promoting violence or Berae Rae?

        Aren’t you the one who have been calling for violence, surgical attack, because the opposition groups are too weak to oust IA? Please some times be reasonable that it is your Harbegna Weyanai is now beating the war drum, not anyone else, and as usual you are blaming me for condemning it. ንከባበርባ? Please!

        Peace!

      • dawit

        Dear Hayat,
        And what else do you do with your brain, other than constantly hatching some evil thoughts to invade Eritrea. So you have problem in Oromia, and you have famine in Ethiopia, the solution is to invade Eritrea. In 1998 Isaias stood firm against habitual liars and invaders dreaming to reverse Eritrean independence. Yes Eritreans paid the sacrifices needed to preserve their independence and will pay again if another adventure or zemecha hatches. Don’t forget the 120,000 poor Ethiopians that perished for Meles’s futile adventure. Also you may think your ‘surgical war’ will topple Isaias and PFDJ government from power, but you will not know how the wind of war blows, it could shift or change its direction south and wipeout Ethiopia from the map as we know it, disintegrate it into several mini kilil states like Somalia, that could lead into endless wars among Killils. ‘yeqotun awerd bla, yebibtwan talech’ or ‘yesew felagi yerasun yatal’
        Peace,
        dawit

  • T..T.

    Hi all,

    Resurgence of muscle flexing between the two countries will only increase the tension and speed up the long overdue military solution. Similar to the Eritrean Revolution maxim that “the Eritrean arena (field) does not tolerate two forces” led to a one must go solution in order to face the Ethiopian enemy, so also the post-Eritrean independence maxim that the region does not tolerate the predominance of one state over the other has become the cause for repeated escalation of tensions between the two countries.

    Eritrea of Isayas has been on total isolation for some time and the only outstretched hands to it have been the hands of the Saudis and Qataris. Could these hands deescalate the tension by offering money to Ethiopia, like they did before with the Sudan and Djibouti. But unfortunately where the money to come from as they are broke and cannot raise enough monies that fit the Ethiopians pride in their war against Isayas.

    • dawit

      TT,
      የቀበጧ እለት ሞት ኣይገኝም።