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Eritreans in Egypt Demonstrate in Solidarity With Al Diaa School

Report by: Mohammed Hiyabu

More than 400 Eritrean refugees in Egypt held a massive demonstration, Sunday morning 5th of November, 2017 in the Egyptian capital Cairo in solidarity with the Deya’a school in Asmara, Eritrea. The refugees flocked from different parts of Cairo and gathered in front of the UNHCR office in the city of 6th October. The demonstrators chanted slogans condemning the Eritrean government and its President Isaias Afwerki and the violations and heinous practices it wields against the administration and students of the Deya’a civil school recently in Asmara in particular and the grave violations committed against Eritrean people throughout 26 years in general.

The demonstrators also carried pictures of Sheikh Musa Mohamed Noor, head of the board of the Deya’a school, who was arrested by the Eritrean authorities amid the breakout of the school issue recently, and pictures of the Pope of the Eritrean Orthodox Church, who was put under house arrest by the same authorities’ long time ago. They also for national unity between Muslims and Christians in Eritrea, which the ruling regime always try to exploit this sensitive issue in an attempt to justify its gross human right violations and elongate its reign in power. The Christian and Christian protesters stressed that the Eritrean regime does not represent a certain religion but is hostile to all Eritrean religions and values, and always try to exploit the religious and national differences in Eritrea for its malicious and narrow interests. They called on the Eritrean people at home and abroad to pay attention to these evil schemes of the regime and strengthen their national unity for freedom, justice and the rule of law in which all can people live in peace regardless of their religious and ethnic differences.

The protesters called on the UNHCR and all human rights and humanitarian organizations to care more about the forgotten Eritrean people’s issue and its rights, which denied and violated by the Eritrean regime. They urge all the agencies and countries to help Eritrean people and, especially with regard to the issue of Eritrean refugees and emigrants, who flee the hell of the regime and face suffering and tragedies in their perilous journey of refugees seeking freedom and a decent life away from the injustice and crimes of the regime.

At last, the representatives of the demonstrators handed over a memorandum containing the demands of the Eritrean refugees in Egypt to the representative of the High Commissioner of the UNHCR in Egypt and all human rights and humanitarian organizations in the world regarding the suffering of the Eritrean people at home and abroad because of the tyrannical regime that rule Eritrea with iron and fire since 1991.

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  • Abel

    “Pope of the Eritrean Orthodox Church,”

    Eritrean Orthodox Tewahedo Church head is a Patriarch, Abune Antonios.(Not a Pope)

  • said

    Selam Righteous,

    I am very well aware of the people of the book and I have the utmost respect and it is part and parcel an article of my faith and I have praised his papacy Francis more than once in this forum and others ,so do not worry
    Most know this .and I have responded to those who did not agree with me. Some in the west they want Islam mere cultural value and devoid of divine content and originality and is being played ever where The cultural critic eminent scholar the late Edward Said famously used the term “orientalism” to refer to a patronizing way Westerners sometimes think of Eastern cultures and ideas — as charmingly exotic, perhaps, but as deficient in various Western virtues, including rationality and rigor. Edward Said was talking mainly about Middle Eastern cultures and Muslim , but much the same could be said of eastern faith: Western thinkers may chose and cherry picks cherish its old art and its cryptic aphorisms and parsing of Islamic civilization and its achievement , but mostly they admire some kind non orthodox Sufism and may see kind of Islamic Sufism meditation, singing and dancing like Darwish as therapeutically useful for their soul and they love Jalāl ad-Dīn Muhammad Rūmī,,simply as known Rumi ,hyphenated never every mention in his full name, he goes by his first name as not show he is a Muslim and this goes for many Muslim thinkers ,as will you find his book is the best in US known for his poem , because it has always been in the world under one name or another or none and … Rumi (1207-73), and a was popularized, Westernized version of the his poem .
    As reported in 2005 Thanks to the faith of Rumi’s U.S. fans, his books have sold more than 500,000 copies in the past 10 years. Rumi calendars, Rumi CDs, Rumi posters, Rumi T-shirts, even Rumi coffee mugs have also found a market in the United States. Madonna, Demi Moore, Goldie Hawn, Martin Sheen, Debra Winger and Rosa Parks are among the big names who have publicly proclaimed Rumi’s greatness as a poet. Rumi’s poetry refers often to God, but many of his poems aren’t overtly religious. Rather, they could be classified as “spiritual” or “soulful.”
    Rumi tells stories of people wrestling with problems. He uses metaphors and aphorisms to guide lovers together again, or to explain the bonds of friendship, or to teach the quality of patience.
    Not surprisingly, American readers seem especially drawn to Rumi’s works about love. In 1998, New Age guru Deepak Chopra published “The Love Poems of Rumi,” which included this passage from a poem called “Aroused Passion”:
    Oh God
    Let all lovers be content
    Give them happy endings
    Let their lives be celebrations
    Let their hearts dance in the fire of your love.
    Rumi’s words are beautiful, touching and reassuring — a reflection of his belief in the mystical branch of Islam called Sufism, which emphasizes a universal connection to God.
    For non-Muslims who first discover Rumi, the experience can be shocking. Sufism as a practice diverges widely from more orthodox branches of Islam, and some strict Muslims consider Sufis heretical.

  • said

    Selam Tesfu
    As reported real fatwa with real state power and something to add .The Brazilian religious gang leaders say a holy war is coming
    Evangelicalism is spreading across Brazil like a virus, just as it has taken over the Southern United States

    The Fatwa of Brazilian Edir Macedo, the multi-millionaire bishop of the Universal Church of the Kingdom of God, wrote in his 1997 book “Orixás, Caboclos and False Gods or Demons”, Afro-Brazilian religions “seek to keep us from God. They are enemies of Him and the human race … This struggle with Satan is necessary…to eternal salvation.” The book sold more than three million copies before it was banned by federal authoritiesin 2005. For some analysts, this theological interpretation is just thinly veiled religious discrimination against Afro-Brazilian.find the link
    https://www.salon.com/2017/11/12/brazilian-religious-gang-leaders-say-a-holy-wars-coming_partner/

  • said

    Greetings,
    Was the Story of Jesus Christ Fabricated by the Romans to Pacify the Poor.
    A controversial American biblical scholar is set to make his first appearance in London to present a discovery that he claims proves the story of Jesus Christ was…and to this day, especially in the United States, it is used to create support for war in the Middle East as reported and link by UK Independent newspaper
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/story-of-jesus-christ-was-fabricated-to-pacify-the-poor-claims-controversial-biblical-scholar-8870879.html

    The theory sounds to me to be very plausible considering the paucity of information; the huge disconnects and the whole mystery surrounding Jesus’ Ministry I believe born immaculately miraculously by direct Divine intervention, some Christian sect do not , then according to bible historian , BLANK, appearing for a short 3-years before his sacrificial demise after disappearing for a whole 30-long years.
    What gives further credence to the author, Joseph Atwill’s theory – True of all the some Monotheistic Religions, I do not agree in the line with Karl Marx Coined Conclusion that “Religion is the Opium of the Masses” – is the fact that the so-called Canonic four bibles (Made Canonic more than three centuries after Christ to the exclusion of other Bibles by the Council of Nicaea, (325 C.E.), the first ecumenical council of the Christian church, meeting in ancient Nicaea (now İznik, Turkey).
    The writing of the 4 Canonic Bibles starting 70 years after the alleged demise of Jesus and authored ACCORDING TO three of Jesus’ accompanying disciples long after their demise, some Bibles historian claim i.e. if ever existed in reality, as the Fourth Bible, written according to John as John was not one of Jesus’s disciples or contemporary of his.
    The Four Canonic Bibles are believed to have been modified under the instructions of the Roman Emperor Constantine when the Trinity, Divinity of Jesus as the Son of God was first declared. The Canonic Bibles are full of contradictions when compared one with the other bible to the other especially in the disparate listing of Jesus’ Chronology.
    Best Scientific Critical Scrutiny SHOULD be afforded a chance to Debunk the Biblical and Islamic Myths that are controlling minds of the common people and remain at the very source of humanity’s division and mankind strife.
    One ought to read in tandem with Mr. Atwill’s book another interesting book on the life of Jesus written by a University of California Theology Professor, Reda Aslan, “Zealot…,” 2012, that deploys historic settings as a mode of critical scrutiny to put the story of Jesus in a proper historic perspective.
    Great Jewish Biblical Scholars did the same in subjecting Old Testament to vigorous critical scrutiny in the examples of Ze’ev Herzog, world authority on Biblical Archeology; Israel Finkelstein, another top Israeli Biblical Scholar and Shlomo Sand,as all three are professors at Tel Aviv University who debunked the mythical Old Testament.
    similarly many reputed Muslim scholars have written prodigiously critically scrutinizing the mounds of Islamic narratives of mostly school of extreme marginal and some misguided Salafi misinterpretations (Subject my Plans) giving rise to Fanaticism and extremism.

    • Simon Kaleab

      Selam said,

      Religion is false promise that cannot predict the future, rife with heavenly claims that can neither be tested nor verified.

      The rich buy Life Insurance from insurance companies for cash. But, the poor are given religion for free as an insurance policy than can never be cashed.

      • blink

        Dear Simon
        You said large portions of fabrication, I think you are being generous. If you read all the religious books they begin with lies and end with lies. I don’t see any religious book with out using Miracle in which full of lies.Said will try to make any religion look good by going after horrific and horrible authors ,yet he can not change the reality of religion which full of lies. Religion is the master store of lies.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Blink,

          Don’t you think your comment is validating and supporting the encroachment against religious institutions by the government? If so, is that good politics for the nature of society we have?

          • blink

            Dear Mr. Amanuel
            I think we better separate the gangster club from this discussion. Issaias and his minions do things to put more power on their small mirrorsless world.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Blink,

            If they are doing it based on their political philosophy, how can we separate the discussion of religious faiths, that is “the governments action verses the rights of religious freedom”? I am giving you a hint not to contradict your arguments. You can’t be for religious freedom which is a liberal point of view at the same time against religious faiths.

            regards

          • blink

            Dear Mr.Amanuel
            Athiesm is not a believe. Theistics influence taints such definition. It is like you are saying all people who doesn’t believe in god are atheists, exposing the lies in religion doesn’t make you a believer in that definition of believe. Non believers has no system while believers do . I can’t see atheists claim to have any system but all religion do exercise a system rooted in a very false narrative.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Blink,

            Since a “system”in politics is attributed to governance and types of governance, are telling us in a day light that atheist do believe in “government” of any sort? Blink, sometimes you make a preposterous claims, that I can only wonder how your mind operates. All the atheist I came to know them and have engaged with them on various issue are not against good government that respect human rights and freedom rights that includes the freedom to worship and not to worship. Atheism has nothing to do believing a system or not believing a system. Being “an odd” an odd atheist does not make intelligent. Hisebelu DeA.

          • blink

            Dear Mr. Amanuel
            I can do nothing with your problem sir. But make sure when I said system I mean religion has a system which atheists don’t. That is what I meant, second I say nothing about governance. Mention the preposterous claims I made so that I can correct them accordingly, your on and off jabs don’t have anything to do with my comment, you just wanted to take on me for no reason and this has limits.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear Blink,

            Arn’t we debating on “religion and politics”? But even if your argument is “religion has a system which atheists don’t.” then since my argument is irritating you, I will invite you to read an article written by Andy Bannister under the title “Why Atheism is a belief System” then you will understand my argument. Keep in mind that is a philosophical argument. Good Luck in your reading.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam blink,
            .
            There was a young Awatista Muslim lady, who went by the nick name selam a year or two ago. She was expressing similar thoughts like yours.
            Something in one of her comments sent me looking for a book I read years ago. It was written by Sigmund Freud…..The Future of an Illusion.
            .
            I will just quote a paragraph from it and see if it sits well with you.
            .
            Quote:
            ” Where question of religion are concerned, people are guilty of every possible sort of dishonesty and intellectual misdemeanor. Philosophers stretch the meaning of words until they retain scarcely anything of their original sense. They give the name “God” to some vague abstraction which they have created for themselves; having done so they can pose before all the world as deists, as believers in God, and they can even boast that they have recognized a higher, purer concept of God, notwithstanding that their God is now nothing more than an insubstantial shadow and no longer the mighty personality of religious doctrines.”
            .
            Mr. K.H

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selam Mr. Kim Hanna,

            Let blink get closer to the cliff so he can see for himself, and then and only then we will save him. If we try now, he won’t believe us that he is heading to a gloomy dark place that existed way before there was a religion.

          • blink

            Dear Fanti
            Gloomy and clif , everyone knows religious people run after horrific things and that is what you are trying to do , we heard it so many times except it is not factual . Good luck finding the saver , he must be a coward one unless how can he hide while his children are slaughtered , imagine a baby born with skin cancer, how can he save you from a cliff while he create a baby with skin cancer ? Oh you heard it from a good sheikh or priest, I just remembered

          • blink

            Dear Kim
            I am just expressing my personal understanding from the daily life experiences of humans .Do you believe someone to go to space on horse wing and come back again…..

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam blink,

            Defying the laws of Physics? Intergalactic travel by special permissions.

          • blink

            Dear Simon
            There are over a billion people who truly believe that story to be true and it was just 600 years after Jesus was dead due to I have no clue .

          • Lamek

            Mr. Amanuel, you are hypocritical. That bigot Said made a very disgraceful comment about you and your fellow Christians in the whole wide world but you attack the defenseless blink. Grow some balls as nitricc would say and call a spade a spade for change. Don’t tell me Said just simply cited someone. He said ‘it is very plausible.’ To look an equal opportunity offender, he mentions recent extremist forms of Islam. We are not in the 60s anymore. Wake up and smell the coffee. Just pause and ask some questions. That’s my second unsolicited advice to you, free of charge.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Lamek,

            Who will take an advice from an insane and a bigot whose dream is to divide the Eritrean people. Sometimes it makes me laugh when one who needs plenty of advice tries to give you an advice to be bigot. If Said had said a bigotry which I didn’t come across it, then he is a bigot like you.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Amanuel H.,

            Extreme examples:

            Suppose a person who smokes cigarettes advises you that smoking is very bad for your health, will you reject this advice?

            H-it-l-e-r believed that 2+2=4. Can this sum be correct?

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Simon,

            Why do we need extreme examples? You can do those things in the campus of academia. Only moderate ideas brings harmony and understanding on diversities.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Amanuel,

            The examples I used are meant to highlight the fact that sometimes you can agree with someone you usually disagree with.

            The examples are exaggerated and extreme for effect but not EXTREMIST.

    • Simon Kaleab

      Selam said,

      Yosef ben Matityahu [Josephus], a Jewish general who participated in the first Jewish-Roman war [60-67 CE], in one of his books, confirms that both Jesus and John the Baptist existed and that Christianity started as a Jewish sect.

      During the Roman occupation, there were many rival Jewish groups, who opposed each other, in Judea, namely: Jesus’ group, who later came to be called Christians, the Essenes [John the Baptist’s group] who abandoned the cities and preached in the Judean desert, the Sicarii [urban guerrillas who specialised in assassinating Roman soldiers], the Phrisees [the biblical analysts, interpreters and scholars, who became the modern Rabbis] and the establishment Priestly group called Levites or Sadducees who controlled the Jerusalem temple.

      • said

        Selam KS
        Thank you for your comment .Let me tell i am for peace and reconciliation.there
        are many Christianity scholar that may agree with you and what I have a problem with Ultra Right wing christian whit . I personally do not agree with author, Joseph Atwill’s theory for many reason ,i put it so that one to Debunk him, I have a lot of respect and an admiration of kind Rev. William Barber’s for the kind of Christianity and spirituality he preaches and strategy for bridging American divides and along the same I respect Rev Jim Wallis and this two they REV preach inconclusive faith . Please listen to PBS link that will u give an idea .
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8LVEGNajLk

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Said,

      Most of the time I don’t read your comment. First the are not organized, second your talks is about religion. However, Lamek made me to read it.

      Said, after all religious scriptures are always challenged by scholars. Can you tell me your motive on writings this comment to discredit the Christian religion? If I bring scholars who wrote against Islam and Mohammed how would you feel? Just answer these two questions and I will see how to respond to respond. Second, I am puzzled why the moderator allows such divisive religious comment.

      • said

        Selam Amanuel.
        With all humility I do not parented to be worthy of thing as good commenter or writer ,I state what I think like every one period with kind of short coming and often I choose not to engage for lack of time. But your comment above in saying : (your comments are not organized and readable, and do not invite readers.) Honestly I find you dishonest at least in may case , your comments do not hold water and I do not need to comment further, in this page I have commented in length at least 3 times, I wrote about Prince Mohammad Ben Salman’s Latest Acts and I commented
        about the American Paradox: World Breakthrough Technologies MIXED with Ethical & Moral Decadence I challenge you find out if my comments are not organized or readable ,you give yourself chief editor of awate.

        but main while Let just remind you what said about me, on November 8,You have good flow of thoughts. That is good for writers. What you have to do is, when you jot down the flow of your thoughts, you have to frame them and edit them. If you do that, you have broad knowledge and you could be an excellent writer,
        And again Let remind you what said you on November .You knowledge on theology is remarkable. You have good grasp on socio-cultural history of mankind.

        Let remind you what Bayan Nagash said about me on Nov 4 ,Your analysis and synthesis tend to be deep. Someone previously suggested that why do you not consider writing articles. And concluded by saying thank you for such thoughtful commentary that you always present in this space.
        Let remind you what said Simon Kaleab, have said along the same line many times and may others and this not brag ,not at all . I will respond later as to why .

    • Righteous

      Hi Said,

      I’m kinda curious about why you posted such a thing? It is very provocative and you shouldn’t post such a thing out of respect for your fellow Eritreans and fellow Christians. Surely you understand that being a man of faith.

      I write about religion here too, and it’s mostly easy going and to explain that we Muslims are different from what media is trying to portray, yet the posts I make gets deleted while an offensive post like yours remain. Wrong is wrong and right is right, brother. Hopefully you’ll come to your senses.

      • said

        Selam
        thank you for your input .There was no intention from my side that could be considered divisive and provocative in my comment i said Best Scientific Critical Scrutiny SHOULD be afforded a chance to Debunk the Biblical and Islamic Myths that are controlling minds of the common people and remain at the very source of humanity’s division and mankind strife.I do not agree nor support article ,it is not for me debunk the article but choose to see divisive .

      • blink

        Dear Righteous
        What’s wrong with his comment? If you wanted to disprove his comment you can bring your own but to assume he provoke is little bit a stretch. Wrong and right in religious way by itself cannot be a bar to measure. What is right about religion? The most unscientific field ever to exist in this world is religion and it is full of lies.

        • Righteous

          Hey blink,

          To be perfectly honest, it’s about not hurting others feelings, and respecting their beliefs. That is basically what I meant with my post.

    • blink

      Dear said
      Well said even though the Rome thing isn’t sure . One thing you forget is that Islam can not be researched like Christianity or Buddhism just for the obvious reasons and that is all researchers will be killed by fatwa , that is the difference unless we all know Mohammod can’t fly using animal.

      • said

        Hi Blink,
        Let me just give you few example, There are atheist folks from every nation , Muslim atheist folks live in many part of the world ,the atheist baath party of Syria and Iraq is one example and many Eritrean Tegadelty will know very well , The Arab Socialist Ba’ath Party –is a neo-Ba’athist organisation founded on April 1947 by Michel Aflaq, a Syrian teacher, Salah al-Din al-Bitar and followers of Zaki al-Arsuzi. The party’s early slogan “unity, freedom, socialism” membership over one million . Aflaq’s supporters were forced from the Baath Party leadership. They found refuge in Iraq, where the Baath Party returned to power in a coup in July 1968. The Iraqi Baathists elected a new pan-Arab leadership, which included Saddam Hussein and Aflaq.
        And find out who give real FATWA that killed million of lives, the Evangelical Christian Right, an award winning investigative reporter. The author is Cecil Bothwell entitled, “The Prince of War: Billy Graham’s Crusade for a Wholly Christian Empire Bothwell’s unflattering portrait of Rev. Graham shows him as a wily warmonger and a lackey for the Establishment. and sought to rebrand the U.S. as a Christian nation, [and] its armies [as] the rightful instruments of [a] Christian crusade and empire.”, Bothwell documents that there wasn’t a war the U.S. was involved in that Rev. Graham couldn’t bless. In fact, he reveals that during the horrific Vietnam conflict, (1959-75), he had urged the then-President, Richard M. Nixon, to bomb North Vietnam! In a 13-page letter, that Rev. Graham had forwarded to the White House in April, 1969, Bush 1 (George H.W. Bush) launched the Persian Gulf War, he invited Rev. Graham to the White House. On Jan. 16, 1991, they both watched the “air war against Iraq on CNN.”
        The fatwa and with blessing Rev Grham that crashed and invaded Iraq and the Iraqi secular government in 2003. As for the ongoing Iraq War, started by Bush 2 (George W. Bush Jr.), and based on a pack of rotten lies, not one word of criticism has been heard from Rev. Graham.
        The good Christian fatwa by Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. spoke out, in 1967 against the war in Vietnam, guess what happened to him find out. When Dr. King marched for Civil Rights in Selma, Alabama, Rev. Graham was no where to be found. And, after Dr. King was gunned down in Memphis, TN, he couldn’t be bothered to attend his funeral either. Unless the Christian community Protestant and Catholic and many sect alike, opens its eyes to what Rev. Graham and his Establishment-serving ilk have been doing “in Christ’s name, then western nation is headed for a eventual fall that will make the collapse of Rome look like a Sunday after none picnic.
        2nd example ,The Communist Party of Turkey (KP) and 3rd example in the Largest Muslim population in Indonesia, they have the Communist Party of Indonesia (PKI) since May 1920, in Indonesia that existed throughout and In 1965, at the height of the Cold War, a communist victory in Indonesia seemed plausible. At the time, the Indonesian Communist Party was the third-largest in the world with three million members. Find out yourself who destroyed the (PKI) party, at the time relatively unknown General Suharto, commander of the army’s strategic reserve, took swift action with FATWA and support of western government .And find out who give fatwah to crush USRR and they where defeated in Afghanistan and end of USRR . The defeated Soviet army withdraws from Afghanistan and that chain of event that brought The end of Communism in Europe please find the time line link
        https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/the-end-of-communism-in- europe/article4315561/?ref=http://www.theglobeandmail.com&

        • blink

          Dear said
          I am not disputing the Christian lunatics war mongering idiots. Do not forget also bush ordered the destruction of Iraq for the sake of his bible will. In Iraq it is estimated over 3 million children are dead under the eye of UN sanctions. There are many many examples of this , but I thought you are saying on research of religion!! That was the thing I thought you forgot. Now there are millions of ex Muslims and thousands of well educated Muslims who express their views on the religion but they are being suffocated by sheikh. Do you think the ME are short of brilliant people who can save us ,, no there are many but they are not given a level of playing field by the state. One sheikh is more honest than Isma’il Ahmad Adham . What happened to his work? You know it , we have many great people but it seems we have to wait more time. Do you think American lunatics would get space to wage war on us if we gave our researchers a space ? No ,

          • said

            Hi Blink
            With time you learn real fawa comes with distraction of peaceful nation, not from some one powerless sheihk who weld no power ,himself a victem , there more Muslim invent scholars than you can imagen,for opposing directorial regimes, than issuing fataw ,yes there are shiehk who issue fatwa , coming your point whilst it is easy to view backward nation as a stagnant, immobile place where time has frozen forever in the 5th century, it’s entire establishment and upkeep as property of the one man rule, a country where nothing can change, at that time, and the people live in a state of docile ,is a mirage. And it is a mirage largely fashioned by the ruling one man itself to justify his legitimacy over monolithic society ,he will a have fatwa as he wishes and willingness to target any members of society be it atheist or non atheist that. The one man ,is General Suharto’s and Country is called Indonesia in 1965 and in Indonesia as reported according to Josefhine Chitra and Andhyta F. Utami, “his quote holds some truth for Indonesia’s bleak past in settling its human rights violations (IPT 1965), which said the Indonesian government, were responsible for the anti-communist massacre of an estimated of 400,000 to 500,000 Indonesians mostly innocent lives , It is not the ,The fataw was issued from not lunatic Christian group,a powerless punch of gruope as you mentioned, It is a fatwa made to element and destroy the communist atheist from Indonesia as wholesale and come from the western support ,and this goes for many nations .
            First, today’s democratic Indonesia still faces the same perception that communism is equal to the state’s enemy – the result of a highly effective propaganda machine employed by Suharto’s regime. The ruling power left no space for people to provide an opposing narrative and whoever tried to dissent ended up as political prisoners

    • Gebremedhin yoohannes

      Pure nonsense
      Mind your business you don’t know anything about the Bible

      • said

        Selam Gebremedhin
        I totally agree with you,i don’t know anything about the Bible and i will try to mind my business ,and i will try figure it out which is mine and which is open for public debate respectively,i don need any lesson from you and let me tell for record and i will repeat something again and I try to make comments and with all humility my knowledge is very basic and elementary with no qualification of any of the subject you mentioned ,or any giving issue that I simply comment what comes to mind , and it have nothing to do of being philosophical or theological , I leave it to eminent scholars and I just have to be very careful about religious issue and refrain in making any comment and not antagonize any believers . in case it seem ,you read me wrongly and you think i went of the truck ,I have praised the papacy in many occasion many Christian leaders by name more once for the work they do ,the article was meant someone to debunk the author.if it published in UK major newspaper the independent ,how was it antagonizing and divisive and controversial when it read by millions.
        Though I’m not sure it would have mattered to you ,I hope it will ,just try read understand my simple comment and it is meant to counter negative stereotyping. that I read sometime from same bigoted head at this forum radical Muslim . What I can say for certain is that I care for our well being of our people and no need to spell it out . I am not just narrating anything new .I am supposed to offer some advice, NO ,I am wandering like every one yes. my thought for a minute, without any genius, content or depth . I try to make comments the issue at hand. when I can’t find the right words, i often put down all the wrong comments as the case in your opinion and sometime it may work without giving a serious thought , some have to bare with me to read what I have to say. Though I didn’t yet think of myself anything worthy of giving any comments , and there isn’t enough time for writing and get across what you want to say rightly or correctly ,people make their interpretation .I can easily put my idea can yielded pages and pages of thought and of my insight, there is always truth buried everywhere with all of us , in everything! Life split into before and after and with time, we reach our matured and wisdom if any . I never have struggle with faith nor to reconcile secular lives .that I ve not left behind, it is not that I become philosophical ,or theological as mentioned ,far from nor I am religious or practice mysticism? Just you average person. I have life lived experience as vivid in the adapted country as diaspora , with all the ups and downs, like most Eritrean , a touch of sadness when we are deprived for too long of the our home land with daily sun and worm weather and decent , beautiful people
        I give attention to small acts of to the humble my self, to minute self-examination and to spells of philosophical heavy lifting on the nature of memory and time. what is the correct action and reaction when I am open to admit to the short coming and guilt and admission and Confessions? It should, perhaps, be one of acute embarrassment. For we have stumbled upon a human being at a primal moment. The vast majority of our people standing in prayer before their creator . I am expected to find myself pulled into it them, as i listen to a flow of words spoken, as if on the edge of an abyss, to a creator on the close by my side—to a being, to all appearances, vertiginously separate from ourselves, to readily understand and easily acknowledge, reflect and repent is about the marvelous emergence of new side of self changes in my relation to the creator ,it is like mystical awareness and awakening,, never Late have we all could come to your maker for those who wishes . to convey a living sense of the Being before Whom we find him in our prayer: it is Silent and almost subliminal stages with so much mercy. able to isolate the very smallest short coming and wrongs , the most toxic concentrate of all—the chilling possibility that we are humanin being some of us need to believe in faith. For many Eritreans of my generation at least Faith is a light in our soul this ordinary light, saturates everything we see…and sweet-talks to us with the myriad ways that falls on things one has to remembers that they had tasted a little of the sweetness of their faith. this is made whole in them , it will be something this life can’t ever be. As time pass we all will find out one day. ,is reminder . what the eternal life to come would be like, if only for a fleeting moment. That is the whole point of faith, up above the heavens, they always see Your face as saying goes …and like most Eritrean their commitment and love for their faith is strong.

  • Peace!

    Hi All,

    ምትፍናን ምስ ዝመውት ዘሎ ስርዓት ህግደፍ ኣብ ኣስመራ ይቕጽል ኣሎ!

    ዝመጽእ ዘሎ ጸብጻብ ከምዚ ይመስል:

    ናይ ሎሚ ዕለት 10/11/2017 ዘጋጠመ ሓጺር ጸብጻብ ክንሰግር። ከምቲ ልሙድ ንሰላት ጁምዕ ኣብ ጃምዕ ኣልኹለፋእ ኣራሽዲን ሰብ ምስተኣከበ። ኹጥባ ብሓሰን ወዲ ሽሾኖ ዝፈለጥ ተኾጢቡ ሓደ ካብቲ ዘገርም እንተሎ ሓጂ መሓመድ ኣብራር ወዲ ሰማንያ ዝዕድሚኦም ድሕሪ ሰላት ጁምዓ ተሰኡ በዚ ህሉው ኩነታት ዘጋጥም ዘሎ ኣስፊሑ ዘተባብዕ ዘረባ ተዛረበ። እቲ መስጊድ ብኾራኹር ሻዕብያን ገለ ዘየስላምን ከምዝከታተልዎን ተፈሊጡ እናሃለወ ብትብዓት መደረኦም ኣስምዑ ገለ ካብቲ ነጥብታት ዝተዛረብዎ ንምዝካር
    1· እዞም ተኣሲሮም ዘለው ኣሕዋትን ደቅናን ኣንስትናን ብዛዕብኦም እንታይ ንግበር።
    2· ከመይ ጌሩ ድቃስ ክመጸና ኣሕዋትና ኣብ ማእሰርቲ ከለው።

    3·ሸባብ በጃኹም ንዓይ ስምዑኒ ወላ ሓደ ነገር ኣይትግበሩ ንሕና ብሽማግለታት ጌርና ነዚ ኣጋጢሙ ዘሎ ሽግር ገለ ካብ መንእሰያት ሒዝና ክንብደሆን ክንፈትሖን ኢና።
    4·ሳልም ናይ ሙፍቲ ቦታ ሒዙ ዘሎ ንዓና ኣይውክለናን እዩ። ነቲ ዝነበረ ሙፍቲ ባዕል እና መሪጽናዮ።
    5·ኣብ መስጊድና መን ይእ ውደና ድሌትና ንግበር። ሕሉፍ ሓሊፉ መሳጊድና ክፍተሽ መን ስልጣን ሂብዎ።
    6·ክንደይ ነገራት ርእናሞ ከምዚ ኣይረኣናን።
    ወዘተ… ዝብል ነበረ
    ኣብቲ መስጊድ ዝተረኽቡ ዓበይቲ ዓድን መንእሰያትን ድሕሪ ኩሉ ዘረባ ናይ መሓመድ ኣብራር ብተክቢር ጌሮም ኣድሚቆሞ ውዒሎም። ድሕሪኡ ግን ከምቲ ልሙድ ስርዓት ህግደፍ ነቲ ሓደ ጸላዊ ዝበሃል ሰብ ስለ ዝከታተል ንሓጂ መሓመድ ኣብራር ካብ ጃምዕ ንገዝኦም ክሳዕ ዝምለሱ ብመኪና ደድሕሪኦም ድሕሪ ምክትታል ከምዝወሰድዎም ናይ ዓይኒ ምስክርነት ሓቢሮም።
    ምንጪ ሸ/ ሙ/ መ

    Peace!

  • said

    Greetings,
    Ignorance and islamophobia
    There is a lot ignorance and stereotyping when it to Islam, Part of it is pure “radical ignorance” includes a deep and profound ignorance of history of Islam. All kind of propaganda and lies spread about Islam like wild fire. islamophobia and hatred spread across the Western World and beyond It is the age-old political tool of mass media owned by western conglomerate – divide and conquer – honed to perfection and supercharged through mass information technology – particularly social media. and voices including the newly christened alt-right. Muslim Radical group is a relatively new phenomenon, invented by the west, cultivated and exploited to its full potential by the Empire the Saudis and Gulf kingdoms have been propped up by the West since World War 2, many of the same dynasties have sat in power, funded, protected and armed, and invited into some of the most lucrative business deals and economic activity.
    First nobody speaks for Islam. There no centralized organization or institution like Vatican.
    Any one can say what he wants rightly or wrongly. there are many center of knowledge and emanant scholar for point of reference. The Holy Quran – a book that few critics of Islam have even picked up let alone genuinely read – and or understood and this goes for many Muslims, in todays world. the Quran, must be read, and deep and objective study must be undertaken. not indulging in cherry picked of Qur’an verses to site their agenda and this is monumentally irresponsible. Few educated secular Eritreans are ready to give themselves as knowledgeable of Islam, ready and available explanation with knowledge about the radical group from where it is emanated. Yet it is likely that unfortunately they follow in into the trap and many who blindly hate Islam do so as football a spectator. They are disinterested in the truth because picking a side and rooting is the extent of their intellectual, physical, and moral depth suite them well. They are brain washed by the West’s massive propaganda machine.
    Radical group rather are very easily traced money trail that leads to their hidden master western government serving their interest. Eritrean Muslims, Christians, and the secular, stand united against all kind of extremist and radical group of every type. It is clear that a tall mountain of lies stands between fact and false, the truth – a mountain built so tall that it leaves entire segments of targeted populations in the perpetual darkness of ignorance. There are approximately 1.9 billion Muslims on Earth. That is approximately 24.5% of the world population. They live in regions spanning Africa, Asia, Middle East, and Central Asia, and reaching as far as Southeast Asia. There are Muslim communities in virtually every nation – and in many – they have played a pivotal, constructive, and welcomed role in national development. If even o.1% of the world’s Muslims were violent bent on conquering any nation. 0.1% that would constitute an army 1.9 million strong –Most critics of Islam infer that the number is actually much smaller than 0.1% . that fraction of a fraction of0 .1% engaged. the fact remains and for all intents and purposes a strictly political, designed to provoke direct Western military interventions in the region. Indirectly or directly the Western government that has created, established and branded, and marketed the radical group and fight In Syria and Iraq, and its allies by proxy, for young naïve that have been sucked up into radical group of all sorts. radical group does not exist in a vacuum. The radical group were created to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan. It was the US with the Saudis that funded them. such groups of every kind – are indoctrinated, brainwashed, radicalized, funded, and supported by their impearl power. In 2012 US Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) memo that revealed.

  • blink

    Dear awate family
    I mean all of anti and pro , why are we here ? To explain things to Eritreans about PFDJ? No ,we’re here because things are not working according to our wishes back home, we are here to learn something from bad motives of anti Eritreans so that we can out smart them in the long run, we are here to share information ( what kind of information, fake once and real once) , we are here to know what some toothless people say about brave Eritreans and debunked them .
    My observation in the few days is , there are people who see Eritrea as the land of Muslims or Christians only and these go crazy if some tested men of the past generation set the record straight, they freak out and try to discredit the undisputed truth. I can’t tell you the positive reply of MS great article, I really wanted to say this , Eritreans of this generation are in need of people like MS .
    I remember one day SG wrote an article about agazian and he was all over it and I myself felt great and proud of the action he took, second to him there was one guy by the name of Tedrose Abraham who wrote to one radio station ( I forget the name) but he did reject the thief tesfatsion in class.

    Now I have to ask , where is saleh gadi ? Will he join MS or stay silent as if we did not hear about the sheikh or he will just tell us the sheikh provocation is just rubbish so he will not east his time ??? Ehhmmm where do see that kind of reply ?
    What is awatecom stand about the sheikh? Is it as always known or we have to guess for the known unknown?

    Trembling with many good things yet can not say it loud.
    By the way the AFAR STATE IN EXILE kkk I laughed on how they played it . The annual budget of AFAR STATE IN exile is booming, how much ? We have to ask the AP reporter in Addis .

    • Berhe Y

      Dear blink,

      I think others have responded and I don’t think he needs to waste his time responding to the guy. He doesn’t really need to. You have seen him responding to similar type message before and I don’t know if he needs to do to everyone one. The message is not directed at awate.com so really, why he should he be. He didn’t respond to the Agazian crazy guy…

      Honestly I don’t think the guy is in any position to cause harm that will have determinant effect to the population. He is not in position of power to do any harm and it’s just a waste of time. If the threat becomes real then, like all things people would take appropriate measure as needed.

      Because or our long history with oppression by many forces, we as people have a long history of surviving and stay peaceful and united despite our differences. And I don’t think out people are easily swayed this way or that way because someone said so.

      I think our priority and our focus should be on the regime that’s causing us so much harm, the rest will take care of itself.

      Berhe

  • Robel Cali

    Greetings all,

    The protests are becoming more embarrassing by the day. For example, in Seattle today, only 14-18 people protested in soldarity with the school. Mind you, Seattle has around 10,000 Eritreans living in it. I’ve seen Eritrean car washes in Seattle get more numbers.

    As I said previously, the silent majority Eritreans are not sympathizing with the demonstration in Asmara last week because of its religious nature. They don’t feel sorry for the school because the school is asking for special treatment – special treatment that their Christian counterparts didn’t receive.

    • Paulos

      Robel Cali,

      That shows how insecure you are. If you were confident, numbers wouldn’t have mattered to you. PFDJ is hated and isolated. That is the fact you need to accept.

      • Robel Cali

        Hey Paulos,

        Isn’t it concerning that I can call up more Eritreans to a game of pick up basketball with less time and less resources than the opposition can bring out people to protest against the government in a city that has the highest concentration of Eritreans in North America? You can’t go a few streets in Seattle without seeing Eritreans, especially in the North and South ends of the city.

        The opposition message needs to change. Stop cheering the failure of Eritrea. Stop trying to normalize extremism. Stop giving Islam special treatment and demands. Stop thinking secularism is evil when Hindus, Budhists, Christians and all of the other faiths embrace it. Focus on one objective and that’s implementing a constitution. Otherwise, you will continue to lose.

        • Paulos

          Selam Robel Cali,

          When intelligent people study a system, they don’t focus on outliers but on a general pattern instead where the key factors of the system are functions of time. For instance, the first enquiry they would pose is, has a certain factor with in the system increased or decreased over certain period of time. If at all, what are the main influencing factors.

          The key question you need to ask is, has the Opposition increased in size and in quality over the years. About 15 or so years ago, the Opposition was mainly a relic of “Jebbha” where a typical demonstration would look like “a grey haired angry men” riding against a popular regime when PFDJ was given the benefit of the doubt. With in the last decade and half the demography with in the Opposition is drastically changed when angry and bitter young people joined-in enmass. That is the key. And the momentum is gaining where PFDJ is losing square and over.

    • Brhan

      Hi Robel,
      But in Toronto Canada the demonstration was HUGE! So was London, UK, Melbourne, Australia, Cairo, Egypt etc

    • Abrehet Yosief

      Selam Robel Cali,

      The government interference in the schools is not going to influence individuals’ faith. Faith grows stronger under oppression. What this interference is doing is effectively denying the religious institutions the ability to nurture future leaders. Without religious leaders who are properly educated, the moderate and tolerant religions that have survived in Eritrea will be in jeopardy. Those who have the religious calling to be leaders or dedicated servants of the church will cross the borders and get their education where they may. Or they will invent their own interpretation of the books without the wisdom of the institutions. These is what will lead to fragmentation and religious strife.
      For you and your type, Eritrea is a theme park for your vacations. You have told us the prayer calling from the mosques and the church bells irritate you. Seeing women cover their head annoy you. For you and your friends who watch Al Jazeera in bars and state that children demonstrating is unacceptable, the churches and mosques that teach morality are an inconvenience. The reaction of those who don’t frequent the bars or those who cannot afford anything in the bars is different. The Christians whose schools have been closed admire the students of Dea Al Islamia. They say good for them, we are cowards not to ensure the continued existence of well rounded clergy in our churches.
      You have consistently expressed your amusement at the low number of participants in the demonstrations against the actions of the government. Please know that these are not the opposition. The opposition is the number of people seeking to leave the country regardless of the dangers of doing so. The number of people who see no hope, no role model, no opportunity to keep their family together; that is the number you should be looking at.
      Thank you for confirming, in one of your many comments, that your parents’ and your generation had better ethics that allowed you to succeed as refugees. Please know that those ethics were formed by the religious institutions that you are now maligning. The young refugees that you look down upon are formed by the government that you are defending.

      • Simon Kaleab

        Selam Abrehet,

        Sometimes, religious verses incite violence against the ‘other’. Is inciting violence against a fellow human being, under any pretext, ethical?

        Is having a religion a necessary condition for humans to be ethical and morally guided?

        • Abrehet Yosief

          Selam Simon Kaleab,
          Excellent points. Points that have been written and spoken about by people more knowledgeable than me. When we are talking about Eritrea, you can only start this discussion at the point where your people are. My concern is with the complete lack of opportunity for an open dialogue for Eritreans to have this discussion.

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selamat Simon Kaleab & Abrehet Yosief,

            The communist states of Russia and China has caused the death of over 100 million civilians in their, give or take, 100 years of existence.

            According to “Encyclopedia of Wars” by Philip & Axelrod, out of 1763 recorded wars, only 123 involved religion.

            Less than 2% of all people killed in warfare involved religion.

            You do the math.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Fanti,

            You said: “You do the math.” Do you mean Arithmetic?

            But we are not talking about numbers here. You seem to be fond of sidetracking the issue.

            The question is: does any religion have a factual and logical basis?

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selam Simon Kaleab,

            1. Yes, “You do the math” is a very common phrase in the US short for “you do the arithmetic” meaning it is “obvious.”

            2. I was not trying to sidetrack the issue, actually, quite the opposite. The statement “Sometimes, religious verses incite violence against the ‘other’,” when the topic involves “ethics,” “religion,” and “violence” in general had to be addressed with that context in mind. There is no belief system, or any human action in general that would not “incite” violence if it is not controlled or properly understood.

            3. “does any religion have a factual and logical basis?”

            You see, I could answer you with a simple yes or no, but it will not fit the spirit or the logic of the question. If I answer you based on my assumption, it will obviously sound “sidetracking” again. I only know about the Judaic religions so, bear with me.

            Did someone claiming to be a messenger of God tell a score of people at one point in time to accept his message and to abide by the rules contained in that message, and thus forming a belief system?” Yes. That is historical fact.

            However, whether there is a verifiable fact for the message’s “truthfulness” as in “proof” the answer is no. Some people decided to believe that messenger and here we are.

            To be honest Simon, the question would make sense as is only if you meant whether there is a logical or factual basis for the existence of God, and if that is the case the answer is Yes and No

            Yes, because I can argue “otherwise where did the universe come from” and you will say that does not mean God made it, and I will say the Book of God says “yes he did,” and you will say that book was written by men, and I will say “yes but God instructed them to write it,”… and so on with no clear winner in the end.

            No, because I cannot show it to you (it is a secret among us believers) nor can I repeat it in a laboratory.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Fanti,

            This is a good response to cycles of questions and cycles of answers as to who is God? In any case, let alone these “Tiraz NeteQ” people, even the well respected biologist who came with the “theory of evolution” Charles Darwin has to say this: “God is the ultimate lawgiver.” He was convinced of the existence of God as a First Cause for nature and deserved to be called a “theist”. In other words Darwin believed while evolution is right, there is always a cause to life and natural science. Finally, in 1879 he made it clear and had said “he had never been an “atheist” in the sense of denying the existence of a god, and that generally “an Agnostic would be the more correct description of my state of mind”. Even scientists do not rule out with the concept, that there is one creator, in the last hours of their lives.

          • Paulos

            Selam Professor A. Hidrat,

            Good points. Just curious though, what does “Traz Neteq” mean?

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selam Paulos,

            Tiraz Neteq = out of context + side note + irrelevant to the topic at hand.

            (Editing): that was the literal meaning, but Mr. Amanuel is also correct. It can be used to describe someone as having amateurish knowledge of a subject.

          • Paulos

            Thank you Fantination.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Dr. Paulos,

            It means those who have “lahmetawi knowledge” on the subject they are talking. For instance if one tells you he is an “atheist” and argues that an atheist has no a “value system”, while indeed atheists do have a value system. Don’t t you think doctore?

          • Paulos

            Thank you Sir!

          • blink

            Dear Mr,Amanuel
            Why do not you at least admit to give up , why are you all over as Mr. I know it all. Give it up , it will not hurt . Just try it one time.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Blink,

            Have you get it that an atheist has a value system? I was trying to bring it to your attention. Otherwise, there is nothing to make me give up. As to “know it all”, I can only say I wish. I am handicapped in many subjects. But for fairness, check yourself in the forum whether you or me is all over the subjects.

          • blink

            Dear Mr.Amanuel
            Have you ? Ok all over the place with one goal . I don’t go out my way lecturing people how to act in this forum.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Blink,

            Why don’t answer my questions? Did atheist have a value system? Did you read the attachment I gave you to read? Yes or No?

          • Abrehet Yosief

            Selam Paulos,
            The exact word for it I think is sciolist. Although Amanuel and Fanti have described it well.

          • Paulos

            Thank you Abrehet.

          • Haile S.

            Emma,
            Referring to what Darwin or other scientists are alleged to have said, you just gave another definition of belief: what have you got to lose!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear Hailat,

            May be Blink have got me to lose. Actually, I wasn’t defending religion nor was my intent to argue against atheist. But one who claims to be an atheist must know the “value system” or “belief system” of atheism. That was my argument. I always try to avoid argueing on religion as a belief though it’s politics dragging us in to it,

            Regards

          • Haile S.

            Hi Emma,
            No worries. The duscussion started with the events, and it is necessary to discuss it preferably with limits exactly like you said. If I talk of my own, it is to show we are multi-colored in belief and non-belief as well, but I have no interest to un-preach. For me belief or nonebelief is personal and moved to the later long before I read ‘Why I Am Not a Christian’ by Bertrand Russell.

          • Selam Ammanuel H.

            When I am asked, how can one prove there is God, I usually answer with a question, how can one prove that there is no God. Religion is a matter of belief, one believes or does not believe, and it is a personal matter.

            Many scientists believe that both religion and science fulfil each other, and it is only then one gets in a way the whole picture, because man is not destined for the ultimate knowledge. No one knows what exactly (happened)happens on the planet earth, let alone in the whole universe, or what the beginning was and how the end will be.

            Some scientists say, yes, they can conceive in their minds the big bang and that first subatomic particle, which gave birth to the universe, and so on and so forth, but when asked, who created that first particle, or who pushed the button for the big bang to take place, they do not have a clear answer.

            Religion says everything came from nothing, and that first subatomic particle is no different from nothingness. That is why most scientists, unlike the Traz neTeqoch, do not disparage religion.

            As a side note, it seems that a sort of pattern exists, i.e., many regime supporters try to tell us that they are atheists, and they know everything about religion, especially its negative side. They do not want to acknowledge that the negative aspect of religion is attributed mainly to the so called representatives of religion than religion itself. This is Tiraz neTeqism at its best.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Fanti,

            The situation is becoming murky, so let me start again.

            – Does any religion have a factual and logical basis for its explanations and predictions related to the Universe?

            – Is having a religion a necessary condition for humans to be ethical and morally guided?

            – There is a high degree of violence in the Middle East compared to any other parts of the word. Is this violence rooted in religion?

          • Paulos

            Selam Simon,

            Certainly, people do not have to have “religion” to live a moral life for “Secular Humanism” professes just that. Every individual in life has his or her own something psychologists call “Personal Truth” where that kind of reality is only known to that individual. Now if that person confesses some sort of faith that could help him or her and guide him or her on how to live a moral life, why do you really care?

            Why would a religion have to have a factual bases about the universe or how it came about? Galileo once famously said, “Religion teaches us how to go to the heavens and science teaches us how the heavens go.”

            If there is violence in the Middle East, “It is not my religion is right and yours is wrong religion” focal point so to speak, it is far more complicated than that.

          • Simon Kaleab

            Selam Paulos,

            You have skirted past my questions [1 &3].

            I know they are difficult.

            Your answers are Strawman Fallacies.

          • Fanti Ghana

            Selam Simon Kaleab,

            Just saying hello out of respect since I don’t have a different answer from Paulos’s below.

        • Righteous

          Selam Simon,

          I guess the last question is a rhetorical one, but I’ll answer by saying religion is not necessary to know right from wrong. Just take a look at Sweden. Sure the mass immigration has ruined swedes outlook somewhat, but they’re an amazing people nonetheless.

          You speak of verses that incite violence. These are interpreted differently by religious leaders. Radicalized individuals will try to influence those with weak minds that their way is the correct way when it isn’t. For example if you kill a single person unjustly in Islam it’s like you’ve killed the whole humanity and you’ll be condemned to eternal hell fire. Knowing that, I often wonder if terrorists are Muslims to begin with, which in my opinion they aren’t.

      • Righteous

        Boss lady Abrehet Yosief,

        Yasalam, what an amazing post!

      • Haile S.

        Abrehet,
        Excellent points. Nothing to add, except I was scribbling the following poem for Jebena in response to ideas expressed by Robel Cali and few others.

        ሎምቅነ ሰሚዔዮ ናይ መላኺና መከላኸሊ
        ምፍልለይ ስም፡ ሃይለ ምስ ዓሊ

        ለውጢ ኣይንደልን በዚ ወዲ ከምዚ ይብሉ
        ኣማራጺ ከም ዘሎ ተቐሚጡ ተጻሒፉ ተዃሒሉ

        ነስላማይ ሓውና እንተዘይልና ጠጠው
        ንስዒዳ ሓፍትና እንትዘይና ደው
        መን ክ’ኣልየና መን ቁሊሕ ክብለና ምስበልና ሸለው

        ንስኻ ትብለኒ ተምሳልካ’የ ኣለኹኻ
        መልሓስካ ግን ይብል ኣይትእመኖ ንሓውኻ
        ናይ ሰማይ እምነቱ ቁሩብ ፍልይ ስለዝበለ ካባኻ
        ልቢ ካብ ዝዕድግ ነዊሕ ኮይኑኒ፡ ግደፈኒ በጃኻ

        ንሕውነት ኣውጺእካሉ ደረጃ
        ንስኻ ክትከውን ናይ ማዕዶ ወረጃ
        ንዓይ ክትገብረኒ ናይ ህግደፍ ትሕጃ

        ህግደፍ እንተዝደሊ ክንሕበነሉ
        ኣንዊሑ ምስ ሓሰበ ኣቐድም ኣቢሉ
        ከይቛረነ ኣሕዋቱ ህዝቡ ዓንዲ ሕቖ ጽላሉ

        ኣንታ ንስኻሲ በቃ ኮይኑካ
        ምልኪ ህድገፍ ዘይስምዓካ
        ቱሪስቲ ዓድኻ ኮይኑ ዘኹርዓካ
        ንስኻ ኣብ ቀዳማይ ዓለም ክትነብር መሪጽካ
        ነዞም ማይ ኣብ ሓደ ስሙን ትመጾም ኣድኒቕካ
        ኣብ መርኣዪ እንስሳ (zoo) ዝነብሩ ቖጺርካ
        ንኣኻ ክጥምቱ ሃይ ( hi) ምባል ለሚድካ
        ሓቕኻ ኢንዲኻ መሲሉካ ኩሉ ዝተቛጻጸርካ
        ንህግደፍ ግደፉ በሎም ሓቦ እንተተሪፉካ
        ዓዲ ማይ ንማይ ብሮቦጋንዳ ገዲፍካ

        • Ismail AA

          Selam Haile,

          Your words and the message they project is an inoculant against killer disease that disrupt cohesion of a society called bigotry. Reading your poem took my memory years back when I listened to Professor Tesfatsion Medhane who stood before a large audience at the ELF-RC festival in Kassel, Germany, and the spoke the same words like yours except that you mentioned names.

          He said that if I, as Christian Kebessan, do not raise my voice in solidarity with my Moslem fellow compatriot from the Lowlands, and the does the same, how can we guarantee national unity and social harmony? This was the time when the regime began to harass individuals Moslems in the name of fighting Jihadists. My memory of these golden words was refreshed by what Mahmoud Saleh wrote about the sermon one ill-informed prayer leader delivered in Khartoum last week. Bigotry of any kind should be exposed and defeated because it just is a social disease vice that pollutes social harmony and serves dictators as effective weapon.

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam sis Abrehet,

        “The opposition is the number of people seeking to leave the country regardless of the dangers of doing so.The number of people who see no hope, no role model, no opportunity to keep their family together; that is the number you should be looking at. ” Excellent argument, and no hole in it to delve in and thwart this argument.

  • said

    Greetings,
    The American Paradox: World Breakthrough Technologies MIXED with Ethical & Moral Decadence
    The core Western values of democracy, freedom and justice be the bedrock of its civilisation. As a diaspora Living in western society simply fascinated by all the speed of social changes underway. And it is frightened to rise a family in positive moral side and transmit your inherited value I respect the hard-won western values of respectable liberalism, law and freedoms that we now take for granted.
    So much moral and cultural impurities are thrown at the world by the speed of light by an America much in control of world instant communication; Media; Internet; ubiquitous Hollywood entertainments; etc., etc., etc.
    America is at the low rank of Moral and Cultural Sophistication Most Dangerously, as endowed by most prevailing powerful instant means of dissemination of information and transmitting of images and pictures, a trigger-happy America is causing tremendous irreversible damage to cultural values right across the entire globe. America is polluting the World Cultures and Human Values. Both, as a Nation and in the Example of Individual Citizens.
    Just last week, a young chap, a 26-year old Devin Kelly, a Lunatic, never an isolated description of the greater many lonely Americans taken to enjoy collecting deadly toys, stormed into a Church in a rural village in Southern Texas, shooting and killing peaceful worshippers, leaving behind 26 dead and 20 injured, i.e. nearly 10% of the total village’s population. Counting among the dead was a baby of just only 18- months old.
    This follows of a month earlier, On the night of October 1, 2017, a gunman, another lonely lunatic, 64-year old Stephen Paddock, fired hundreds of rifle rounds, for no reason, on an innocent crowd of concertgoers in Las Vegas, Nevada, leaving in one of the deadliest carnages in America 58 people dead and 546 injured.
    Now the news is full of another aspect of increasingly moral conduct of American Celebrities and supposedly Role Models termed Sexual Predators. The foremost famous personality in Hollywood, major movie producer Harvey Weinstein found guilty of so many appalling acts of sexual harassments and outright Rape. As this now unfolding, many American supposedly respectable high-profile personalities are implicated of outright sexual assaults as Congress is considering passing laws to regulate sexual conducts of lawmakers under the Congress’s Rotunda as quite few lawmakers were alleged to harass and sexually assault fellow members and staff.
    Same goes with other major leading American Institutions as the extreme right Fox News, a major TV Network, had to fire many executives, including the President and many of his senior Vice-Presidents for committing sexual assault on their staff. Mr. Bill O’Reilly, a dominant anchor on Fox News had his contract renewed after allegedly settled on Sexual Assault cases against members of the Fox News staff.
    So, goes with the life styles and conducts of many American celebrities and high-profile entertainers, singers, actors, producers, etc. who often, almost across the board are implicated in scandals as quite few among them are in-and-out of rehab centers for substance abuse and failed social relations.
    What applies in personal individual conducts of prominent American individuals equally apply, in a different fashion, with US Governments and US Polity sanctioning wars, tortures and infringement on the Sovereignty of other nations as in the case of Latin America, Middle East and Asia. As in French Author Emmanuel Todd’s “Après empire,” 2002, America is a Trigger-Happy, rather a country renowned for readily deploying “State Terror” practices par excellence.
    Both, motivated by achieving economic gains tantamount to pillaging, and disrupting the normalcy of life on Earth, American Oligarchs, pillars of Western Wild Capitalism, in tandem with corrupt polity and the proponents of the Military-Industrial Complex, just walk in heeding no international norms, diplomacy, respect of sovereignties or human rights. If genes are an indicator, this seems to follow from the rather inordinate past of the birth of a nation in the first place.
    Thus, no wonder heading the Pack, sitting in the supposedly most respective office, the Oval Office, is a morally corrupt and intellectually devoid President having the authority to invoke a nuclear code to annihilate humanity at the touch of a button.
    America being endowed with the most advanced state of communication technologies, world dominant media and a Hollywood increasingly churning out on near daily basis violent and morally corrupting movies, is poisoning world cultures, debasing levels of intellect and enticing all kind of pervert conduct and the spread of crimes.
    Remaining a deeply segregated society, the US disposes of half of the world’s total Criminal prisoners of a total of 2.5 million, half the entire world’s 5.5 million Criminal Prisoners. 50% of American Criminal prisoners are Black Americans pointing to a failed American Criminal Justice System and continuing discrimination and segregation against a Black American community representing 10% of the American population while representing 50% of the total criminal prisoners thrown in American jails.
    Western civilisation created a strange culture perpetuated by cinema, television and other modern technology and media that rejoices in and celebrates dysfunction, violence and anti-social behaviour. the new generation is struggling with society as they see it today, but in truth, they are evidence of a civilization that no longer believes in itself. the modern 21 century barbarians. that this is happening right now, So is the decline in value, in religious observance, it is a moral problem? what moral If “immoral” means.
    As report notes, out-of-wedlock births are increasing in much of the developed world—for example, over half of babies in Iceland and Sweden are born to unwed mothers. The intellectual elite of America and Western Europe—academics, writers, filmmakers, television producers, liberal politicians and theologians—have promoted this “do-your-own-thing morality”. they have waged an all-out assault on common sense and the common values of the western people. that “popular culture has been infected by nonsense—nonsense about truth and reality, nonsense about self, nonsense about thought and feeling. These false views have had a devastating effect on peoples lives” leading to the breakdown of the family, self-indulgence, and undermining the pursuit of excellence violence and anarchy that normal.
    AS reported If the Harvey Weinstein sexual abuse revelations shocked the world , the reality. Is shocking According to RAINN, an American is assaulted every 98 seconds, One out of every six women will deal with rape or attempted rape in her lifetime, and 90 per cent of rape victims are women. sexual abuse doesn’t happen in a vacuum. Every level of society – social norms, media, and Government – is complicit in promoting the direct or indirect rape culture that perpetuates sexual abuse. You can not rely on government when 97 per cent of rapists never see a day in prison, judges punish rape of an unconscious college woman with a measly three months in jail. and the US Department of Education rolls back rules that protect women in college from sexual assault?
    the cancer of sexual abuse against women that we see in Christian western majority America is just as prevalent in worldwide no exception Muslim countries and along many other countries with varying degree in any country , but also in Hindu majority India and state atheist commonest Russia and China. Sadly, confirm his proves that some men worldwide are failing in their responsibility to end sexual abuse and gender based violence. This is a reasonable argument, in part, due to the hypocrisy of allegedly religious men
    As reported like Congressman Tim Murphy, who condemns abortion and infidelity, yet was caught encouraging his mistress to have one, or former Indiana GOP chair Rick Halvorsen who was convicted of the worst type of abuse. Weinstein is a symptom of the greater disease of arrogance, unaccountability, societal apathy, and from men who knew of the abuse but did nothing.

  • Aklilu Zere

    Good day Awate nation.

    I found a very relevant story in Moby Dick, a novel by Herman Melville that explains to what has happened/happening to Hajji Musa Mohammed Nur; the board of directors and Deya school thus again and again exposing the extreme criminal and oppressive nature of Isaias and his [wife] PFDJ.

    Here is the story”

    “De balena vero sufficit, si rex habeat caput, et regina caudam”:

    Latin from the books of the Laws of England, which taken along with the context, MEANS, that of all whales captured by anybody on the coast of that land, the King, as honorary Grand Harpooneer, MUST have the head, and the Queen be respectfully presented with the tail. A division which, in the whale, is much like halving an apple; there is no INTERMEDIATE remainder.

    According to the Law, those whalers/seafrers who took risk with their sweat, blood and lives and those who depend on them back home are left with nothing. Everything is taken by the King and the Queen. If they complained they were not going to get even a piece of the Whale [the Law already dictated it] but for sure they were going to be severely punished.

    What happened in Akria is similar to this story: Isaias [The honorary Grand Inquisitor] must have the complete obedience of the students, parents, teachers and the board of directors, and the PFDJ will be presented with the school property, the building, inks, papers, blackboards, computers and everything else. Nothig is left for the sateholders.

    The stakeholders bravely and admirably protested but they are in jail and the historical school is plundered.

  • said

    Greetings
    Prince Mohammad Ben Salman’s Latest Acts Could Metastases Regional & World Tensions and it will affect Eritrea.
    First for clarity purpose. In a nutshell: I do not support the Syrian dictatorial regime and all their proxy supporters, Russia, Iranian regime direct interference in the Arab region, in Iraq, Lebanon and Yemen .I am for No interference in domestic issue from any side , be it from GCC countries in challenging sovereign states.

    The confluence of rather weird political developments – regionally in the Middle East and Internationally – brought into Power on the stage three Bellicose Political Leaders; two from the Middle East And a newly elected American President, a Trojan Horse of the American Extreme Right.
    The vision and agendas of these three Bellicose warmongering actors perfectly coincided as all intent on raising security tensions and move to hostile actions, Unprovoked, in the Middle Eastern region, primarily against the Islamic Republic of Iran after faltering proxy wars in Syria, Iraq and Yemen with humiliating defeat in the formers are proving quite disastrous in every respect.
    Now the Compass is shifting to facing Iran head-on in the very backyard of these very countries.
    Leading in the rather unusual Tripod a Saudi inexperienced 30-year old young prince made hastily, by decree, out of a father King-Son infatuation, manipulation and arm twisting, a Crown-Prince soon to be declared the uncontested King of Saudi Arabia, Prince Mohammad Ben Salman (“MBS”).
    MBS’ grandiose vision and lust for power and regional domination is only matched by a more experienced at State Stewardship, young but relatively more experienced Sheikh Mohammad Ben Zayed (“MBZ”), the current virtual caretaker President, by virtue of ailing older brother of the United Arab Emirates (“UAE”).
    MBZ presiding over a prosperous and wealthy oil-rich Sheikdom, Abu Dhabi, and the Presidency of the UAE of the 7 Trucian Sheikdoms, also harbors regional ambitions as he has been quite assertive participating on the side of the Saudis and the US in the wars in Syria, Libya and Yemen. MBZ’s concerns and fears seem to be widely shared by the country’s sparely populated citizenry constituting a mere 10% of the total country’s population made up of predominately foreign expatriate labor and foreign business people. The UAE and other small Gulf Sheikhdoms are haunted by Iran’s regional ambitions and potential Iranian hegemony in the Gulf Region.
    Coming on the stage winning the American Presidential elections on November 8, 2016, rather most unexpectedly, Capo di tutti capi in the Troika, Donald Trump who won on an extremist right-wing agenda eyeing, foremost, among other priorities to abrogate the painstakingly pieced together Iran Nuclear Deal. Besides, Donald Trump seeks to engage proactively in building a tight Gulf Regional Coalition with Gulf Money and potentially third-parties’ recruits to raise tensions and embark, unprovoked, on hostilities seeking to force a Utopian Regime Change in Iran.
    The Troika, MBS, MBZ and with the President of the United States on the lead worked from day one of the election of Donald Trump on the raising of the red flag and taking a more direct hostile posture against the Islamic Republic of Iran. For long critical of former President Obama’s apparent reconciliatory diplomatic overtures towards Iran culminating in the successful conclusion of the Peaceful Nuclear Deal, the Saudi Royalty and Sheikh Mohammad Ben Zayed never hid their disapprovals and open sharp criticisms of the US’ moves towards Iran of the Obama Administration. The Arab Gulf polity in general felt abandoned and betrayed by the US long considered a historically reliable loyal ally.
    With the President of the US Chipping in, as Israel, the powerful capable regional power joined the Gulf Polity their grave concerns of the mounting power of the Iranian Islamic Republic, all four countries now seemed in tandem to actively move to check the moves, face and likely entertain an ultimate showdown with powerful Iran.
    In the rush to accomplish all that and build a tightly solid coalition ready for immediate actions, one Gulf country member of the Gulf Cooperation Council (“GCC”), tiny Sheikdom of Qatar with abundance of oil revenues of more than $120.0 billion accruing annually to a mere 300,000 indigenous population, had to be brought to the fold.
    Qatar, reckoned MBS, MBZ and Donald Trump is capable of playing the spoiler compromising their move in unison as a united Gulf Front as Qatar has demonstrated in the past to having a mind of its own out of a separate closely held to the chest agenda. While very true, all decided a Regime Change, forcefully if needed, must be carried out. Thus, further raising political and security tensions in the Gulf region with much national income now being diverted to military build-up and spending, the dreams of the American Military-Industrial Complex.
    The devastating setbacks experienced by the Pro-Washington coalition in Syria and Iraq the past months; besides, the dragging on of the costly war in Yemen, hardened the resolve of the Troika with Israel remaining in the shadows to shift direction heightening tensions and facing Iran in the Gulf head-on with no minced words. A disastrous formula devoid of exhausting diplomatic means first that very much concords with a preconditioned bellicose mindsets of young Gulf leaders and a rash feared mentally unstable US President much lacking in wisdom and acumen.
    In his haste to consolidate power in preparation to ascend, unobstructed, to the Saudi Throne in matter of weeks or a few months, MBS has embarked the past few days on a poorly conceived that could prove a fatal plan to neutralize and get rid of members, high symbols of the Saudi Royal Family that he suspected and feared could thwart his plans at succession and form a Fifth Column that would restrict his free hand, compromise his single-minded ambitions at waging new wars and heightening tensions in the Gulf. Forging ahead with mostly overly ambitious and unrealistic grandiose economic plans for Saudi and the Region, MBS feared would seriously be compromised by concerted Nay-Sayings of still powerful elements of the Saudi Royalty.
    Figures prominently among the UNPRECEDENTED arrest of a score of prominent members of the Saudi Royalty, his very kin, high figures like Prince Mohammad Ben Naif, the deposed Crown Prince that for long was accredited for the successful modernization of the Saudi Internal Security Forces garnering the loyalty of carefully handpicked and promoted high brass. Mohammad Ben Naif is considered the most powerful contender who effectively built the Kingdom’s internal security apparatuses. Prince Miteb Ben Abdallah, head of the powerful stand alone Saudi National Guard, counting more than well-trained 200,000 mostly Bedouin recruits whose officers are painstakingly selected and trained from the elites of the Bedouin Tribes.

    MBS’ last move could prove fatal and send crumbling all MBS’ grandiose and warmongering ambitions shared with another bellicose Gulf leader, MBZ inviting early Gulf Confrontational Plans counting on a Donald Trump in the White House.
    Saudi Arabia could all together snap out of the Coalition as controlling potentially worsening internal security situation would take priority over all external considerations.
    Overstretched MBS with staunch loyalists in the powerful Internal Security Apparatuses and the 200,000 Well-trained National Guard to the arrested powerful Royalties could easily pop up revolts and rebellions among the high brass to challenge the authority of the Crown Prince even before he makes it to the Saudi throne.
    All the above with increasingly worsening economic conditions in Saudi that with the arrest of the world renowned Saudi Business tycoons would greatly discourage foreign investors, Saudi Arabia could find itself imploding at the center could any moment cause a dramatic change in the Saudi Political Situation. Somehow it wouldn’t be all that farfetched that the high brass in the difference branches of the military make early moves to change the political scenario bringing Mohammad Ben Naif back to the throne and, this time, with Miteb Ben Abdallah made his new Crown Prince. This could very well abort the Scenarios of the Gulf forces coalescing to joining forces with the Trump Administration to fighting Iran would be completely undermined.
    The New Saudi Regime if it materializes would then be preoccupied to consolidate its hold on power; rebuild Saudi Royalty Consensus; abandon the White Elephant stratospheric pet economic projects of Prince MBS and set priorities to salvage a deteriorating Saudi economy.
    What now renders the Troika’s bellicose hostile plans in the Gulf potentially undoable is the early disappearance of Donald Trump from the political scene in the US as the results of the last night elections as all Democratic Candidates Swept the elections against the defeat of all the contending Republicans. The Democrats won with very comfortable margins last night the Governorships in New Jersey and Virginian as well as the Mayoralty of the City of New York. This represented a major defeat to President Trump as the results show his dramatically falling popularity among his constituency. This bodes ill for the Republicans come next November Midterm elections.
    With the Russian Conspiracy investigations moving stridently forward, the Capo di tutti capi Donald Trump too would be forced to reset his foreign agenda, especially as he already failed to garner support among Republicans to abrogate America’s commitment to the Iran Nuclear Deal.
    MBS and Donald Trump could prove a short passing phase, giving diplomacy a chance as MBZ would be found alone inviting reckoning and reversion to long overlooked quite diplomacy and statesmanship.

    • Berhe Y

      Dear Said,

      It’s in deed very dangerous development what this new king is venturing into. The US / Donald Trump are happy to sell arms and using SA and the GCC as proxy to weaken Iran. But I don’t think it will have any impact on Iran specially with the current Iranian leader who was voted with huge support and he is making huge stride towards diplomacy rather than confrontation.

      Israel may not be interested to see a powerful and peaceful Iran but I don’t know what the US agenda might be.

      I think, SA is bringing the issue close to home and may be the one that will pay for. It may be possible that, this is a ploy to disrupt SA long held economic power.

      Berhe

    • Legacy

      Hi Said,
      Do you think MBS arrested Alamudi , who is the largest private employer in Ethiopia, in order to put pressure on the Ethiopian government to start peace talks with the Eritrean government ?

      • said

        Selam
        I believe it have nothing to do with Ethio/Eri issue Yes Sheikh Mohamed Hussain AL Amoude is being arrested,as he was very closely associated with late Crown Prince and Defence Minister Prince Sultan bin Abdulaziz who died in 2011,along Dozens of royal family members, officials and business executives have already been held in the purge announced on Saturday for exploiting public office for personal gain. According to report the purge is over 1,700 and rising, and having their bank accounts frozen. Among business executives detained in the probe so far are billionaire Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, chairman of investment firm Kingdom Holding and 11 princes including in long list and Businessman Saleh Kamel and sons.

        • Berhe Y

          Dear Said,

          Over 1700 that’s absolute madness. What is this guy up to ?

          Berhe

          • Selam Berhe Y.,

            I think that change is overdue in the ksa, and at last it is coming. The domination of the arabian peninsula by the al saud family for over the last 200 yrs, and the exploitation of the vast wealth by the 40k or so members of the same family, the mistreatment of women, exporting extreme islam, wahabism/salafism, political islam and its byproduct terrorism, the fall of the price of oil, and the changing world that is not going to remain the same for ever, all are sending the message that things have reached the stage that the chicken are about to come home to roost, as they did in iraq, syria and libya, unless things change asap, before it is too late.

            More than 70% of saudis are below 30, and they do not see that their wealth is having a major impact on the way they live, a life devoid of quality, fun and freedom to do what everybody else does, is making them uneasy. The crown prince surely will tap his major support from the young who stand for such changes.

            The conservative clerics and their supporters are a power to reckon with. Nevertheless, they are the old and in the minority. I think that people (especially the young generation) do understand that extreme islam has no place in the future SA, and moderate islam must take its place. SA at last must clean her name from being called the major exporter of terrorism, which has affected negatively the whole world, especially the muslim countries.

            The sunni-shiite divide and the crown prince’s call to oppose iran politically and militarily, is mainly a call for the usa and israel to commit themselves on the side of the ksa, which is ready to carry the economic burden. Otherwise, I think that there is no comparison between iran and the ksa as much as their fighting power is concerned. Iran is not yemen, where the ksa and the gcc are bogged down, and the only thing they have achieved up to now is to bomb innocent citizens, women and children and expose the population to famine and cholera, with the blessing of the usa and britain.

            This is the time of radical change for the ksa, and if it fails this time, simply it will be postponement for a future date, that will come with much more consequences for the country and the whole region

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Horizon,

            What I am puzzled what ever the new king is doing, I don’t think it will benefit SA or the youth. I also don’t think those people are are being purged are necessary the problem. Ok women are allowed to drive now, but that is not going to change much.

            It seems to me, its heading towards dictatorship of one man control.

            Berhe

          • Selam Berhe Y.,

            May be not dictatorship, but power consolidation, is the issue why some people are purged and imprisoned in a five-star hotel. Without power consolidation the crown prince cannot bring change to this very conservative country. After all, he is not dismantling democracy, but theocracy.

            In addition, control of political and economic power is fundamental, and the power of the clerics should also be deconstructed and controlled, if he has to bring change.

            As much as women are concerned, it is not only about driving cars but the whole set of rights they have been denied, like self-assertion in society and political and economic power.

            A day or so ago, an 8 yrs old saudi male child was caught on cctv as he was illegally driving a car, a right a grown up woman is denied. The child’s father who was sitting in the other front seat was most probably preparing his son for his right to drive a car. I bring this to show the medieval concept that exists towards women, and how far saudi women have yet to travel before they ascertain their place in modern society.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Horizon,

            I think what ever change the society wants it has to bring itself. I understand there are many, many women doctors from SA that were not able to drive cars. It is symbolic change but over all I think the women have been pushing for right and it was the right thing. I just don’t think that people can impose change, specially coming from outside if the society are not ready for it.

            For example, imagine if one has to advocate in the Ethiopian / Eritrean Orthodox Church, or the Catholic Church or Jewish to allow women priests? I personally do not see why not. But to bring that type of change in the society will take a lot more time. So I don’t see the issue in SA is different but may be different degree.

            I don’t think the detention in 5 star hotel will last..honestly I don’t know the reason..but I am not sure if he is the right guy (in terms of political experience) to do it, or even if the society is ready for what ever he is doing. I think he is spreading SA resources very thin supporting Syria opposition, the war in Yemen, and large military spending etc.. will deplete the country resources.

            I think he is probably after the wealth of these people control rather than actually implementing reform the country or the society. I think it may have far greater consequence to the country than he is trying to solve what ever the problem there.

            Berhe

          • blink

            Dear berhe
            Here is the latest from Saudi Athorney .The potential scale of corrupt practices which have been uncovered is very large,” the attorney general said. “Based on our investigations over the past three years, we estimate that at least $100bn has been misused through systematic corruption and embezzlement over several decades.”

            100b is too much to ignore and by the way popularity for the 32 leader is growing by the day.Despite his age the person pulling the plug is not 32 .
            The Saudi public is hungry of change especially the elite educate society are ashamed of their old stagnant society, so the question is can he be successful in pulling a blug against the hardliners of Saudi religious conservatives .

          • iSem

            Hi Horizon:
            The problem of SA are just starting and not ending. It has suddenly found itself having a shot at being the super power of the region, a force to be reckoned be with and if this happens we will have 3 super powers in the region: Israel, Iran and SA. SA might insidiously undermine and send terrorist to destroy Israel, but publicly it will be an ally of Israel because without the help of USA and UK, it cannot survive and if it does it does not have longevity.
            Women driving?? Excllent news, well, finally, 100 years late, and where are we at women voting in SA? and the right of minority,
            They may worship Allah but he is in second place after the whites and Americans, but Allah says treat all people of the book with the best treatment, SA’s Allah, is their own creation and not the Allah that spoke to Mohammed; Read in the name of the Lord
            And the new cleaning house, is as you said power consolidation than cleaning corruption because a corrupted system is unqualified to clean corruption.
            They are pounding their chests at the misery of those who they are bombing and in a few decades, when their oil which is almost depleted according Matth Simons in the Twilight in the Desert and it is slowly replaced with Solar, Wind etc they can bid their jets farewell and go back riding their camels*
            And their newly, found super power status will vanish as they cannot afford all the tools that the USA and others sell to them.
            They had over a century to make incremental changes and allowing women to drive in 2017 is shameful and nothing to gloat over.
            SA can run their houses and worship their own King but they have been creating problems for our region and Eritrea. They are behind the creation of the Eritrean Jihaddist movement of course helped in a weired way by IA and EPLF, they have always meddled in our affairs. Like any Eritrean I hated and still hate the phrase by HS and Dergi that rebels are selling to Arabs, but there is some painful truth in this statement, because, although the fundamental reason ghedli was sparked was jsut, the Arabs, among them SA and others were meddling in our affairs and succeeded in making some of us their tools in the vicious endless cycle of fragmentation in the ghedli
            *Riding Camel is not my pharse, it was uttered by one of the sheiks in UEA, when he said, my grand father rode the camel, my father rode the car, I am ridding the jet and if we do not find an alternative to the peak oil, my grand kids will ride the camel

          • Berhe Y

            Dear iSem,

            I really don’t know much to have knowledgeable opinion what they are doing. I think the change that is being taken, will lead to more trouble for them and the region around them. I honesty think SA and the rest of Arab countries have better say in how their resources is controlled than most African countries. Yes they don’t spend it wisely but actually their business people have managed their resources quite well compared to the African leaders who steal the money and stash it somewhere…where as the SA and others have diversified (those are being held) and invested it well around the world and own and manage it well.

            To me, the Prince (is running out of money) and he wants to take over the wealth that’s controlled by those who is trying to purge.

            In my opinion, I think it’s a ploy by the western world to create a problem for them, now that they can manage their economy without depending on Middle East Oil.

            Iran is heading towards positive change and there is nothing anyone can do about it.

            Berhe

          • iSem

            Hi BY
            I agree. Definetly, with the low oil price in oil for the last 2 years, they are suffering and also USA may not have sweet oil but have I think the largest oil in the form of shale trapped in the rockies and they have the tech to extract it

          • Berhe Y

            Dear iSem,

            The US have declared free of middle east Oil dependency when Obama come to power, including the oil sands…

            I think he wants to pay the 100 billion dollars deal he signed with Trump. If the US told him he can’t purge I doubt he would be able to do so.

            The US and Trump comment was, “they know what they are doing” and they are looking side ways to let this happen.

            Berhe

          • blink

            Dear Isem
            You wake up just to blame EPLF , still you run your mouth as if you are in agony about EPLF. what is wrong with you ? There was no truth to the Arab thing , it is just that you are too cozy to your Dergi thing. You will reach no were about this .It is done deal and already gone through different stages. which terrorist organization did EPLF help ?

          • iSem

            Blink:
            No, I do not wake up to blame EPLF, I wake up to perform other things in life, other worthy things
            So, are u saying that the Arabs, were not meddling in Eritrean ghedli?
            Now ask ur atheist spiritual leader for that. he may agree with me.
            And how am I cozy to dergi, stop these none sense if you have a point regarding my comment of Arabs meddling make it by all means

          • blink

            Dear iSem
            When you tell us the terrorist that EPLF helped, I will stay on the borderline You drew long time ago.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam blink,
            .
            There is nothing wrong with iSem, at least on his post here. However, there is something wrong with you. Lately the truth seems to irritate you a lot.
            Permit me to irritate you some more.
            .
            The Arab thing is still with you even though you are “done” with Ethiopia.
            .
            { Emperor Haile Selassie said that the Arabs want to convert the Red Sea into an Arab lake.}
            { Haile Selassie and Derg said that some Eritreans want to trade the Eritrean land.}
            …………There is more where this comes from…….
            Some Eritreans woke up to the prophesies but by then it was too late.
            .
            The Red sea is effectively an Arab Lake.
            Asab, Eritrea was “leased” to the Arabs for 30 years or more.
            .
            Mr. K.H

          • Teodros Alem

            Hi
            Forget about she said, he said. Gossip.
            Red sea is better off with the arabs than controlled by ttplf.even though i don’t agree one country control other but
            Ethiopia itself better off with the arabs than tplf.

          • Selam Kim Hanna,

            With the defeat of isis, we expected we would be seeing calmer days in the future. Unfortunately, a serious crisis between sunni and shia muslims is just manifesting itself, and their problem is coming nearer to the horn, because some clever leaders of the region have already committed themselves for the sake of ephemeral political and economic advantages.

            Syria’s assad, lebanon’s hezbollah, houthis in yemen, and iraq more or less on the side of iran, standing against SA and the gcc states (already divided), are the fronts that may be affecting peace and security in the whole region for the coming years, as long as trump and republicans remain in power.

            Blinded by oil money, this usa administration is not going to act as an element of peace and security, as it has already shown in its eight months period in power. SA has informed its citizens to leave lebanon, which more or less shows the direction things are possibly going.

            There must be a normal and peaceful situation to own the red sea by arabs, and what seems we are going to see in the immediate future in the arabian peninsula and the gulf states is a simmering instability that could at some point may get out of control.

            SA and the gulf states are the product of colonization, in which we see warring tribes of the past packed together under one stronger tribe, and some other tribes to have been given their own homeland, nevertheless a sunni-shia mix. Money can bring peace and harmony, even under such situations, nevertheless, the problem is when the money diminishes that the demons come out of their hiding.

            In addition, a vast country like saudi arabia and mini-states of the gulf, an unnatural situation created by the world powers in the early twentieth century, and conservative governments spoiled by too much money coming exclusively from oil, do not seem to be a good combination.

            What trump and his administration have planned for the region is going to show soon, and one has to be sure that it is not going to benefit the peoples of the region, not even the sheikhs this time, who are going to get replaced by the new generation of less conservative individuals, who I hope are ready to align themselves with the rest of the world community, provided the west has cleaned its house from the new phenomenon of far-right-ultra-nationalists and white supremacists.

            Therefore, i think that they must be able to own what belongs to them first, before they can own an international waterway. The stakeholders are already stationed in djibouti, and they are watching.

          • blink

            Dear Horizon
            Nothing to add , you have said it all

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Horizon,
            .
            KSA. I don’t expect much from this corrupted to the core country. Whatever shenanigan is going on is for the most part some kind inbred toxic family dispute.
            We will not know if the “good” guys have the upper hand until years later by the results.
            .
            Al Amoude, is from KSA and connected to Ethiopia by birth. Several years ago in Ethiopia, the newspaper, Reporter, was questioning the Eth. Government and Al Amoude’s enterprises about the future of these extensive holding companies, in the event of his absence.
            I remember they were crucified for asking such questions and the whole episode died down without an answer at the time.
            .
            Al Amoude has a lot of investment in a lot of areas of Ethiopia. I am sure being a good businessman, he probably borrowed the bulk of the money from Ethiopian banks. That is why that original question was so important in light of what is happening now.
            I am wondering if there is more information along those lines.
            .
            Mr. K.H

          • Berhe Y

            Dear KH,

            I think sometimes out bias does cloud our judgement.

            Sure the country may be corrupted and sure there is a lot of backward that they need to change.

            But I think, they Arabs, if they stopped fighting each other, a lot better handling their resources than Africans. And they have s lot of savvy business people who have done all.

            As to Al moudi I think he is a good business person. His investment is not limited to Ethiopia, may be very small portion compared what he has outside (eg Sweden).

            He may have use Ethiopian banks for investment (I am feeling you are suggesting, he benefited more than he gave) but all banks in most cases , the do lend money if they don’t know they can recover in case of default. I don’t expect the Ethiopian bank operate differently.

            Berhe

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Berhe Y,
            .
            Al Amoude made a tremendous contribution to the Ethiopian economic development. I am not suggesting he did anything bad at all.
            .
            What I am saying is whether these companies in operation are survivable of his extended absence.
            For example:
            The farm he operates in a remote part of Ethiopia require constant decisions to mitigate circumstances above and beyond the capabilities of managers and directors. Particularly the approvals of short term and long term plans. Cash flow, dependable staffing and weather are a changing factors for the well being of the operation.
            There is nobody like the owner with the skin in the game to make that necessary decision under this type of set up.
            .
            The Bank who financed the project cannot make any decision about the farm. They come in only when payments on the loan is not made and by that time it might be too late for the equity of the farm.
            That is all what I am saying about Al Amoude.
            About KSA, you might be right about that but at the same time I feel I am right.
            .
            Mr. K. H

          • Teodros Alem

            Hi
            Al amouden’s mother is ethiopian and his father is Yemeni. He born and grow up in ethiopia and changes his citizenship to SA just like any Ethiopian diaspora. His father also change his citizenship from yemen to SA.

          • Selam Kim Hanna,

            As you very well know nothing happens in a vacuum, and in this age and times we should not expect any messiah coming from anywhere.

            We should take into consideration that the ksa with its extremist/fanatic and wahhabist/salafist clerics is to blame to a great extent for the phenomenon of terrorism all over the world, the world community is having enough and they want their governments to do something about it, which cannot be other than crushing the head of the dragon, the price of oil is plummeting and the free flow of cash is going to dry out and in few decades oil is going to be a useless commodity, the new generation of saudis is becoming uneasy if the cash they more or less freely acquire starts to dwindle, generally the kingdom is on the wrong course and it is going to find itself in a very difficult situation in the future, etc.

            What the crown prince tries to do is to deliver the kingdom from the armageddon that is coming, more than anything else, by sacrificing some he does not like much, emasculating the clerics, consolidating his power, etc. Otherwise, the kings and princes of the al saud family are not going to be reborn, abandon their power, and become a completely different sort of people.

            It is a matter of survival of their kingdom and their dynasty that is important to them than democracy for their people. Of course, they are forced to appease their citizens, and that is by giving them some rudimentary democracy and rights that do not exist today, in order to avoid an other bin laden. Nevertheless, in no way are they going to put in danger their complete domination.

            I really do not know any more than you, concerning al amoudi, his vast business and the possible connection with the ethiopian and saudi arabian governments, who may be the shareholders in his vast business empire, how much of it is ethiopian money and if public money has been distributed as shares to government officials, or if he is facilitating and legalizing political money through his business in any way, etc.

            What is most interesting is that although he is said to represent the interest of the government of saudi arabia in ethiopia, he is now detained for corruption. No one gets rich w/o quenching his/her thirst from the fountain of corruption. This is the world we live in, and it is being destroyed by greed and corruption.

          • blink

            Dear berhe
            You said ,”Heading to one mans dictatorship”? What was ksa before? Democracy?

          • Berhe Y

            Hi blink,

            It’s not democracy but I don’t think it was one man dictator ship. It is what the UK, Russia and others countries rules by kings use to be say 50 to 150 years ago.

            For example compared to Eritrea, SA is not the same level of dictatorship. They have laws, courts, due process, may not be the standard one wishes but not defiantly one man dictatorship.

            Berhe

      • Abraham H.

        Hi Legacy, I don’t think the arrest of the Saudi businessman of Ethiopian origin, Alamudi is to satisfy the interests of the Eritrean regime. I don’t really believe the Isayas regime has so much leverage on the Saudi kingdom, it would be giving DIA the weight that he doesn’t have. Alamudi is one of the unfortunate souls that are seen as a threat by the young and aggressive Crown Prince Mohammad, as he prepares himself to be the strongman of Saudi Arabia and the Arab world. I wonder whether his next step would be removing his 81 year old father altogether and replacing him as the King. There are, unfortunately, some reports that some of the arrested are being tortured physically and many of them have been hospitalized for injuries they suffered under the interrogation. And the most troubling in this purge by the Crown Prince is that he has the support by the U.S. president. And now there are some weird reports coming that the Saudis have arrested the Lebanese prime minister and made him to declare his resignation from their soil on live tv. Very worrying developments in the ME.
        I hope some of our experts at Awate website to keep us informed on the fast moving situation in our immediate neighborhood, that could have far reaching consequences for our region.

        • Legacy

          Hi Abraham H,
          You are probably right it . It probably has more to do with neutralizing his assets so that it would not be used to mount resistance.
          The development in the region is truly scary. That obstinate and uncompromising gene strattles across this region and you might as well call it “G-15 the sequel.” I just don’t see any of these people people will the day of light.
          One thing is clear that the escalation of this conflict in the region will sharply raise the value of Eritrea to SA as Iran’s involvement in Yemen gets deeper and deeper . I think Issayas will be rewarded handsomely for his loyalty which will lead to more instability in the Horn.

  • Peace!

    Hi All,

    Keep the momentum going and hit where it hurts. What could go wrong for the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) countries: war on Yemen collapsing, Saudi is falling on its own, the Embargo on Qatar not working, humiliated in Syria, and now their puppet Eritrean dictator is in a panic facing protests inside out and of course worrying of soon the GCC might go broke to feed him. Hopefully this will be his last ops! moment.

    Peace!

    • said

      Hi Peace,
      You are absolutely right and well summarized and i will write along the same line.

    • Robel Cali

      Hi Peace,

      Saudi Arabia is not failing. Arresting officials suspected of corruption is a sign the government wants to improve its image among its people. The young crown prince is a hero. He is fighting back against Islamic extremism at its root. Islam will be reformed in Saudi Arabia under his reign.

      And just stop. 4th graders screaming “Allahu Akbar!” in downtown Asmara is not a revolution. And the Diaspora protests have been underwhelming if not embarrassing by the low numbers of turning out.

      • Peace!

        Hi Robel,

        I don’t know why you pick Saudi’s matter when the obvious point is where will be the next stop for Eritrean dictator to bend and beg money as the GCC is dying slowly?

        As for 4th graders, they are brave enough to defend their school, and guess what?, the school is open and nothing has changed.

        Peace!

        • Thomas

          Hi Peace,

          “the school is open and nothing has changed”, but we know these mafias work during night time. They don’t have courage to confront people face to face. They happen to hunt people while people are asleep and relax. They learned this from their “ansahib” time:) We should always be alert for their evil actions that they might try to execute.

          • Peace!

            Hi Thomi,

            Agreed. But It is a complete waste of time to discuss that with PFDJistas because to them and their evil leader, being patriotic means to arrest, to torture, and to kill. እሱ እዩ ስርሖም. We should not sleep while our people are living in HELL.

            Peace!

          • Thomas

            Hi Peace,

            You nailed it, I agree 100%. We must fight these killers by whatever means available. I agree they will never try to come to their senses.

            The worst thing that can happen to Eritreans is happening right now. Any leader (even the evil one) coming after these manipulators and bunch of good for nothing crown can be contained. The mafias and their supporters must be dealt with by any means. Under the cover of national security threat, these people will never stop going after each of us.

        • Robel Cali

          Hi peace,

          The school was opened because the government doesn’t want confrontation, The head of the school told them they should die for this cause, which is funny because he got to live a long life under various Ethiopian occupations and never fought a day in his life but wants kids to die for his ideas. This man is not brave, he is not intelligent and no matter how hard Awate tries, he will never be a hero.

          • Peace!

            Hi Robella ቁንጮ ቁንጮ

            “Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. – Plato – BrainyQuote.

            For you and your mentor 🙂

            Peace!

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