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Eritrean Intelligence Establishes Bases in Ethiopia

Eritreans living in Ethiopia are feeling threatened by the presence of several PFDJ operative in the country.

The militarized Ethiopian-Eritrean border was opened last summer after two decades when the Ethiopian prime minister and the president of the Eritrean ruling party reached an agreement. Details of the agreement are still unknown, particularly to Eritreans.

The open border has given the PFDJ government an opportunity to send its operatives unhindered to several Ethiopian cities.

Ethnic rivalries are plaguing all parts of Ethiopia, as a result, the institutional transition envisioned by PM Abiy has had its cost. Consequently, it is still on a bumpy road.

Observers believe that Isaias Afwerki of Eritrea has found leverage to interfere in Ethiopia’s internal affairs through the many armed opposition groups he hosted and trained in Eritrea since 2000 when the border war between the two countries ended.

Recently, a blanket amnesty that PM Abiy granted to all forces opposed to the EPRDF government returned home and some are already involved in the politics of the country.

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  • Hameed Al-Arabi

    Hi George,

    It is really funny when a genius creature comes crawling to the trap.
    Leave the “very unfriendly Neighbors and a Relentless ,demonic, zionist controlled america. For the last 60 years.” of “MY MOTHER’S ROBE STUMBLED ME” (ቆምሽ ኣደይ ሓንኪኑሊ), and move to present. Now, you have peace, sanctions lifted, CIA has become a friend, neighbors have become grooms. The question is: when will Eritrea prosper under PFDJ? Please, give us a fixed time. Is it within 5, 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, or 100 years? Important Notice: You are under camera watch.

    Al-Arabi

  • Brhan

    (ፕረዚዳንት) አፈወርቂ ኣፉ መሊኡ ከምኡ ኣይበለነን!

  • Brhan

    Hi Hope,
    ፕረዚዳንት አፈወርቂ ኣፉ መሊኡ ከምኡ ኣይበለነን!

  • Mez

    Hi George,

    Just let me restate what I said:

    ” 1) Eritrea was-/is-/will-NOT be USA, or Rusia, or China. Stop doing senseless comparison. We simply have not the means (in every aspect) to do things in paar.”

    What is wrong with this statement, Sir.

    Thanks

  • Haile S.

    Selam Awatawian,

    ዘበን ግርቢጥ ማይ ንዓቐብ

    ጽቡቕ ዝውረ ስለ ዘይብልኩም ስቕ በሉ
    እንተኽኢልኩም፡ ንሕማቕኩም ዝሰርሐ ዓልሉ

    ክትስደዱ ኢዱ ዘእተወ ዝወሰኸ
    ሕማቕ ኩኽ ከልግስ ኦም ዝበተኸ

    ብስም ጽቡቕ ርክብን ዝናን ሓዊ ዘንበድበደ
    ሙቐት ክስሕን ኣብ ከባቢኡ ገሃነም ዝኣጎደ

    ሓድነት ኢትዮጵያ ኣብ ሬሳ ኤርትራ ኣይስረትን
    ሓቀኛ ሓርነት ኤርትራ ኣብ ሰነፍ ኢትዮጵያ ኣይስረትን
    ብሕማቕ ትምኒት ውሑዳት ህላዌ ክልትኤን ኣይምከትን።

    • Kokhob Selam

      Dear Haile S,

      Nice,,,

      “ሓድነት ኢትዮጵያ ኣብ ሬሳ ኤርትራ ኣይስረትን
      ሓቀኛ ሓርነት ኤርትራ ኣብ ሰነፍ ኢትዮጵያ ኣይስረትን
      ብሕማቕ ትምኒት ውሑዳት ህላዌ ክልትኤን ኣይምከትን።” take home..part of the above poem

      and

      ብሰንኪ ውሑዳት ዕላማ ስላምን አይመክንን :-
      ኒሕና – ሕኑን ሓይሉ ኣይጎድልን– ኣይቅናስን:-
      እቲ ጉዕዞ ፍጹም ኣይብርዕንን ኣይመውትን :-
      እቲ ቃልስና ንያቱ ኣይጎድልን ::

      KS,,

      • Haile S.

        Selam Kokhob,
        Good to see you back. It has been a while you were apparently away from Awate. I hope all is well with you. Take care!

      • Blink

        Dear KS
        Welcome back, I have been thinking and worrying about you where about. Nice to see you back .

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Kokhobay,

        Good to see you back. In your absence I was kind worried about your health. Again good to see you back.

  • let them be listened or they will be listened to…..

  • Selam

    Selamat George,

    DIA himself said GAME OVER. If the game is over, that is it, over. Why we want to play a game after the referee blow the wrestle. Or tell us that the game is not over. What I see here the player and referee said game over, but the spectators like you want the game to be continue. You know to watch a fight between two heavy weight boxer is interesting but to be a boxer in that category is not an easy job.
    Off course as a neighbor we should watch them carefully for any future match but our focus should be our next match.
    Our next match is home. To lose any game home is the worst defeat. If you win the away match and lose at home the end result will not be satisfactory. We need to concentrate on our home match to get a better momentum for our future away match.
    I hope I explain myself how I am educated about the matter.

    Have a nice day.

  • David Samson

    Selam Hope,
    Since you are always keen to question people’s credibility by demanding evidence, it is time to turn the screw on you: where is your evidence and why you are spreading unconfirmed allegations?

    • Hope

      Selamat Dave:
      Hahahah.
      Unless you change your attitude towards HOPE for a WEIRD reason,Hope has remained the same .
      -Calls the spade a spade.
      -Gives credit to who ever deserves it and when due
      -Criticizes who ever needs to be criticized

      That is called an Independent and an UN-biased Mind,aka a Flip-flopper by the Partisan,Biased and Ipportunists.
      Am not a Politician to have a biased,fixed ,partisan and opportunist mind or thought process or opinion.
      There many types of “ Evidence”:
      1)An EyecWutbes Account based or a Direct and Objective and verifiable Evidence
      2)Second hand info based “ Evidence”

      3) Circumstantial Evidence

      I posted clearly my source as “ Evidence” #s 2 (Visiting EPLF tegadalit consulting her Comrades)and #3, Circumstantial Evidence, by taking into consideration the past and present Evidence based on what happened to those imprisoned ones during their imprisonment .i.e.:
      That many have died and/or disappeared.
      Regardless,my intention was to report what was reported from Eritrea,not as Evidence or Facts” but a true story but an unverified story !

      Thought you people in Britain speak and understand English better than other Refugees in other Nations!

  • Blink

    Dear Readers
    Our dictator is on his way to Somalia and according to the Eritrean sanction advocacy groups he will meet with Al-Shabab and his strong 2000 Eritrean forces who are there with the terrorist groups . As per to the report he will continue to travel to Kenya to talk about the Military air plane of his airforce which was transporting weapons to al shebaba in which the kemey ab security apparatuses find it red handed .

    Ok , what is new ? Hear , one of the kitchen chiefs of the Some Eritrean polemicist are saying there is Genocide going on in Eritrea from 1991-2018 as we speak and the way to go is push for crime syndicates this and that. How much money is going to be made from this so called big project financed by some NGOs is not yet known but as we continue to look it seems some are going check in hard and play the game.

    • Hameed Al-Arabi

      Hi Blink,

      in the past 20 years PFDJ and its agents were propagating the reason of vacating Eritrea from her youth are CIA and western countries. At present, who is the cause of outflow continuation of Eritreans after peace accord and lift of sanctions? Don’t forget that CIA is a friend of PFDJ now. Also, be reminded all PFDJ propaganda is well documented.

      Al-Arabi

  • Kaddis

    Dear Ato Amde

    For the record – I don’t have a strong opinion against Presidential or Parliamentary as long as its done legally. I know the constitution works, not because I work as a civil servant ( I wish I could ) because I lived through its growth and fruits, its bad and good, envied and being copied in the instruments of the African Union; from DAVOS to G20 to OECD and by your US Tibor Nagy just this week I think in congress. – affirming he have
    never seen an African nation changed this much in his 40 years African experience.

    You don’t do that without a working constitution …..ask our humble Eritrean
    hosts here what it means to live without a working constitution.

    To save you from your diaspora feel good upper ground cheap assumptions of what I do in my country –

    Years back I was part of a project which promotes Fistula can be treated. Young mothers with fistula lived completely isolated in a Gojo bet, divorced, stigmatised and losing constant urine few minutes drive from Bahir Dar hospital. We used to find patients living with fistula for 10, 15 , even 20 years in Adet, Dangela and Worreta . By the time we ended our advocacy Project – we needed to drive for hours to find long term patients while the new ones are aware and come by themselves . Simple surgery – the urine stops. I chose to live here

    I don’t need no one’s approval my country changed for the better and I am glad I am part of it ….and its rewarding …living in a city which you can fly to +150 international destinations … I was in Europe the week before ..and will be in the US come Summer … and many places in between

    I don’t use Yeqebele card ….there is another id called Ethiopian Passport ….

    • Paulos

      Selam Kaddis,

      Not everybody falls for the apathetic propaganda to vilify the ruling party when they say with hubris and mendacity that the nation was kept in darkness for the last 27 years.

      Not sure if you know of him or you’ve heard of him, Milikias Mihreteab is an Eritrean who was born in Ethiopia but grew up in Eritrea and in the 90s, as a journalist, him and his friends founded a private newspaper but when the regime started cracking down on the media, he fled to Ethiopia and now he lives abroad. He never stopped writing articles however, mainly centered on the cruel treatment of the regime on the citizens but for a reason only known to him, he had stopped writing till a couple of days ago when he is back with his mighty pen.

      This time however, his article is not about the regime in Eritrea but about TPLF and the people of Tigrai where he says, he had seen it with his own eyes what kind of Ethiopia Dergue left behind and the kind of Ethiopia EPRDF was able to transform it to the envy of an on-looker from every corner of the continent. He went on to say that, he is eternally grateful to the Tigrean people for they received him and his friends with warmth and brotherly affection when they fled the regime in 2001. He also lent a morale support to the people and the Front to stay strong as he put it in this trying times.

      • Kaddis

        Selam Gash Paulos –

        There is a huge inferiority complex by those who could not believe a Tigray rebel group managed to frame a complex federal constitution, adopted from OLF draft * and managed to transform a nation of 100 million.
        So funny they want us to join them vilifying a transformation; while their new temp ( temporary love ) Abiy could not find enough time to go around and inaugurate what Woyane built in Tigray ( sorry Ethiopia ) ..quote from Fortune Dec 8 ….

        ” Constructed for 5.9 billion Br – 85pc ( Dire Dawa – Dewele Djibouti border ) financed by China’s EX-IM Bank –
        the 220Km asphalt road was recently finalised and only awaits the
        completion of its toll plazas, the entrances and exits where drivers pay
        their tolls. The road was expected to be inaugurated this weekend by
        Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed (PhD) but was postponed to an unspecified date
        due to two other inaugurations, Jimma Industrial Park and Jimma
        University’s new hospital.”

        *OLF leaders claim, on a local radio called Ahadu – the current constitution is more or less taken from their draft of the transitional charter – which was accepted by EPRDF in 91.

        • Nitricc

          Hi Kaddis; I am usually intrigued by your takes and I just want to ask you one question. if you don’t want answer it, I respect that but are you a Tigryan?
          Thanks.

          • Kaddis

            Hi Nitric,
            I am Guragé, sodo ( Chistané) to be specific; on both sides. Just yaddisaba lij..

          • Nitricc

            Hi Kaddis; Respect brother. thanks

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Ato Kaddis,

            By now, you know that if we have different views than them, we are always wayane. It is unfortunate.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam kaddis
            Sodo gurage:)
            Sodo gurages r called amara by thier neighboring ethnics, sodo guraga hated tplf more than anything in the world , maybe gondera beat sodo guraga in heating tplf, u talking about a society that consider supporting tplf as curse(remember1997 election). I mean, i know it is online talk and u can lie as much as u want and there is no verification here but ur hate,twisted behavior and psychological make-up tells it all.

        • Admassie

          Selam Kaddis,

          Most oppositions and Elites:
          1. Worked fiercely in painting EPRDF and TPLF as anti Ethiopia starting from the inception and has conspired in every way possible in seeing EPRDF and TPLF failed. And now, after 27 years, BOOM!! Succeeded!! That is why እባብ ከእግር፤ እጅ ከበትር ምን ትጠብቃለህ kind of beating and thrashing unabatedly continued.

          2. Worked hard in instilling hatred and division among societies by painting ethnic federalism and the constitution as devil’s write up. But again, when their actions bring the outcome what they were working for, the animosity and killings everywhere, they are shouting again አላልናችሁም!! blaming EPRDF and federalism as if they are free of the guilt.

          Now, how ኢትዮጽያዊነት is being framed is totally frustrating. “It is TPLF not the Tigray people are targeted” is just የአደባባይ ንግግር (political correctness crap). The real image is hear (happened for real).
          A teacher was giving a lesson to a fourth grade students about “opinion” and “fact” in his english class in Addis.
          He gave the following statement and asked to which it belongs. “Abiy loves Ethiopia, but Meles hates Ethiopia.”
          A nine years old girl answered:
          ” it is an opinion.”
          The teacher came to her and asked “ትግሬ ነሽ?”
          One more: a girl was singled out and verbally abused by her teacher in a very famous school for she happened to be ትግሬ and her father is in prison. Did the school take any action? Nah!

          We hate. We teach hate and hence we claim to build እምዬ ኢትዮጵያ በፍቅርና ይቅርታ?! Pfff!!!

          Admassie A.

          • Kaddis

            Selam Admassie,
            It’s frustrating how racist we are.
            You see a huge noise against an Oromo mayor of Addis but get completely mute ( in fact with entitlement) about a Gonderé or Gojamé native deputy mayor assigned a day before.
            They bully a world class diplomat upgraded from health ministre now WHO chief but act ignorant on the current one upgraded from federal police chief.
            It’s the same fake Ethiopianists that derailed the democratic hope pre 2005
            Good news is, people seems determined it’s self rule or none. Maybe the city elites have not got it yet… but the bar is high to be reached by free riders.

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          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Ato Admassie,

            The hate is also being taught in schools? It is scary. That is why I knew the prime minister is bogus from the get go. He is neither for “peace” nor for “reconciliation” of your people. Now the hate for Tigrians, and tomorrow for Somalis…and etc. He is unfit to lead. Remember a “cadre” and a “leader” is different. He is no more than a cadre being taught or told by others to implement whatever he is trying to do. I haven’t seen any quality of leadership in him so far. He is not up to the challenge. Period.

          • Admassie

            Selam Amanuel Hidrat,

            Not allowed purposely. But some are emboldened to show their hate of tigrians even in classes and there is no consequence for their action.
            Because may be:
            1. Most colleagues and school administrators are of the same opinion.
            2. People do not want to be ostracized for objecting such action.

            Regarding the PM, we are learning by the day, he is not sticking to the principles they have outlined in their final meeting when they decided in initiating the reform.

            He is lacking consistent and principled stand.

            Admassie A.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam aman h
            Ur words about pm Abiy is a prove that he is a patriotic decent leader of ethiopia. ur hate to ethiopia is obvious, ur love to tplf is the reason for ur hate to ethiopia, here in this forum people knows ur poltical opinion. ur love for tplf and ur hate to ethiopia, so there is no surprise to see a patriotic decent leader such as 3A to be attacked and insulted by u.

          • Haile S.

            ስላም ኤማ፡

            ምነው ኣቢይ ማንኑን በደለ
            ዝናውን ትቶ ኢትዮጵያን ባገለገለ

            መለስ-ይሙት፡ ይቅርብዎት ምሓላ
            በቃ፡ ተላለፈ ስልጣን፡ ካ’ክሱም ወደ ላሊበላ

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hailat,

            It is not only about “transfer of power” but it is also about “management of crises”. I don’t see on him, rather he is aggravating the latent sociopolitical crises of the nation.

          • Haile S.

            Emma,
            You are tough on him. Take it easy. Within few months, he did a lot. He is trying his best with so many types of problems. Cheers.

          • Millennium

            Hi Amanuel
            You heard this one story that supposedly happened in a school and you are declaring a PM unfit to rule based on that?

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Mellenniun,

            Not only based on that. He can’t address the crises of the nation:

            a) He can not stop the killing
            b) he can’t solve the cause of internal displacement
            c) He doesn’ t comfort the families of the victims
            d) he is not a leader who show up in the crime scene to have a first hand knowledge and address the worriness of the public……and many more,

          • Nitricc

            Hi Aman-H your love to the TPLF thugs is known beyond the doubt of shadow but can you appreciate for what PMAA is doing? remember he is carrying a BLOOD-LESS change. Sure he could have killed like what every African leaders come to power do but he is trying to do something different. he is trying to change the back ward culture of coming to power, the culture of killing. Come man; your love to the weyane thugs is clouding your judgment. Some times let’s speak for what it is. I guaranteed you the esiest way for PMAA was mowing down every one from the TPLF era and establish his own but he is trying something different and I expect people in your caliber to encourage it. supporting a dead horse ( TPLF) will get you nowhere.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Nitrickay,

            It is not about TPLF. It is about crises management. After declaring love and reconciliation, he is no where people are killing each other. Leaving the people to kill each other is by no means different of killing them with their security apparatus. It is about stopping the killing and maintaining the stability of the country.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Aman-H; I understand what you are saying. But it is very hard for a the very system who created the problem to be solved by the same system. This is exactly what you have in Ethiopia. And I can understand what you are saying but if PMAA has to shoot and kill some TPLF higher archly; you could have seen a different out come. But PMAA went the peaceful way, almost like religious style by peaching love, forgiveness and inclusiveness. That might work in church but in African political showdown; that is a death sentence. You may wonder why PMAA can’t stop the flare ups around the country but I an stunned he is alive and functioning. At one point PMAA and his government has to start toasting few people if not, I don’t think what you are witnessing now in Ethiopia will stop anytime soon. The man and his administration has many problems and shortcomings ,Nevertheless; I am not backing away from supporting his fine intentions. The man has a very good intention and he is trying to change the killing and coming to power through guns and I think any reasonable person should get down with PMAA. just for the sake of argument if killing is that bothered you now, why weren’t you bothered when the TPLF thugs were mowing the youth of Oromo and Amara? Just a question?

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Hi Nitricc,

            The predecessors were mowing without preaching love and forgiveness, that is the difference my friend. AH may have another opinion.

            “It is an opinion” teacher.

            Al-Arabi

          • Millennium

            Hi Amanuel:

            As an human rights activist (apologies if you are not one), I think you should be elated with what he has so far accomplished:

            1) Released political prisoners

            2) Released jailed journalists

            3) Allowed banned pollical actors to return back home and widened the pollical space

            4) Made peace with Eritrea

            5) Reconciled the divided church

            Given the fact that he inherited a country in turmoil, I think it is unfair to declare him unfit. In my opinion, considering the circumstances, he has done an amazing job. I think Ethiopians are lucky to have such a leader right when the country needed it…I see him as a blessing to the whole region.As a matter of fact, we are all lucky such a person is leading the biggest country in the Horn. For the first time in 20 years, I feel very optimistic about the region now.

            regards

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Millennium,

            No apology, for I am both political and human right activist. Initially, I welcomed it, b/c I thought it will bring peace not only between the two countries but also peace in their respective political houses. Despite those steps that are taken, the Ethnic strife or ethnic violence has spiraled into a growing humanitarian crises. He does not look serious about it. The killing and the displacement of their citizens is still continuing. He did not make his priorities to address them, nor did he comfort the families of the victims. His focus is totally misplaced, and in my view he is on consolidating his power and creating possible alliances for the upcoming election. In my book, if a leader is confined in his palace while his people are at each other’s throat, he is not a leader. A leader should be bold enough to show up in the site of the crises to address the issue and to render reticence and sympathy to the families of the victims.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam aman h
            1, ethnic to ethnic attack , the displacement of people from each region .The killing of the protesters were worst by far before 3A came to power.
            2, u were known in this forum by saying no need to discuss ethiopia internal poltics in this eritrean forum 1 year ago, what happen now? 🙂

          • Millennium

            Hi Amanuel:

            From what you have written, it looks you believe security should come first; probably the kind of security Eritrea is enjoying right now. There is no ethnic clashes going on in Eritrea, you know? You cannot have it both ways. I think you have to give this firebrand of a prime minister a chance.

            Regards

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Millennium,

            No sir. Security and human right, security and freedom are interdependent issues. There is no one without the other. The issue is how you balance them within the norm and behavior of a given society. Once you you tilted the equilibrium between them, it breeds crises of enormous magnitude. That is what we are seeing in Ethiopia. I believe that you are capable to understand the inherent relationship between them and you don’t need further explanation to it.

            Thanks

          • Paulos

            Selam Professor A Hidrat,

            This Millennium guy is obviously a stand-up comedian. Abiy the charlatan releases prisoners and he throws others to prison. He is now stung by the scorpion and so much for what the best thing that happened to Ethiopia. These people are so funny!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Dr Paulos,

            Did you read the latest comment of Kaddis in response to Hameed?That gentleman always give us some scoops as to the nature of the of Abiy’s Government. But keep in mind, like our adage “ደድሕሪ አድጊ ዝኸደስ ሃሃ ሃሃ እንተይዘይበለስ ጥራጥ ለመደ ከምዝበሃል” the PM will learn from our despot how to stay in power and how to do it. Once they exchange the rings of marriage, then as a couple, they know how to protect their political houses. The brute side of Abiy will be seen if he succeed in the coming election.

          • Paulos

            Selam Professor A. Hidrat,

            I agree. We all are grateful to Kaddis’ valuable contribution to the ongoing discussion.

            First of, as some delusional Ethiopians are saying, the Tigreans are not in any illusion of coming to power neither are they resentful that they transferred power. What they are saying is that, if Abiy was genuine, why didn’t he for instance, stood up for the Weyanes when Isaias first said, “Game Over” when the Weyanes are part and parcel of the government.

            More over, why is he giving a free ride to Isaias including the security apparatus when Isaias is determined to destroy TPLF when TPLF is still part of the ruling party? To be more precise, if he is for peace and all, why doesn’t he come out and call out Isaias when he is vilifying the Weyanes in a broad day light including when the state media is running a documentary that targets a specific ethnic group?

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Paulos,

            I think we need to be rational and always try to stay objective. I don’t think because Abiy released political prisoners, journalists and activists that his government will not arrest people accused of wrong doings.

            What the people should ask is, is the rule of law being upheld and the rights of those detained being protected.

            Berhe

          • Paulos

            Selam Berhe,

            This is a classic double standard. If he declared for the bygones to be bygones and giving clemency to those who had been arrested, why is he arresting people whose alleged crimes ware committed before he came to power?

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Paulo,

            I know it is painful but the only way to move forward is to use the the law of the land to fight justice.

            To be honest there is a big difference. At this point we don’t even know to what extent what he has been accused off (before / after).

            I am not suggesting it’s fair but they have no chance but fight / defend him using the law of the land.

            Berhe

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Hi Millennium,

            I think, it is better to study entire works and relations of the would be dictator. Did you question his intimate friendship with criminals and dictators in the region? I think that speaks more than his smiles. I hope you revise your satisfaction about the man who is under dictatorship apprenticeship so as to be your elation sensible and endless.

            Al-Arabi

          • Selam Al- Arabi,

            If all you could come up with after half a century of struggle is dictator IA, then the world has to deal with what you have and with what you gave eritrea. Otherwise, the world has to wait another half century until you come up with a better choice. It is not only pm Abiy, arab nations, and horn of africa countries, but also the eu and the usa (now), who are dealing with him, and DIA is getting relevant by the day as you accuse the ethiopian pm.

            The problem lies on your side and not with pm Abiy. Especially now after the peace deal, you should have been rallying throughout the world against the dictator for the absence of reform in eritrea. But, you chose to attack somebody else, who approached eritrea, because he can wait no more.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Hi Horizon,

            Let us uncover assumed 3000 years of independence. It amazes any guy a country with outstretched years of independence still to crawl. Not only this, but she is in a state of labour to give birth to a new fresh dictator, and a new cycle of crawling. Now compare 60 with 3000. A failed neighbor always transfers his failures. Let us demarcate the border and build a very high wall in order to get real peace from a neighbor who suffers from a lot of problems. A neighbor who doesn’t respect law and humanity. A neighbor who kills innocents savagely in the streets.

            Al-Arabi

          • Selam Al-Arabi,

            Of course you will deny it, but eritrea (at least highland eritrea), was part of this 3000 yrs history you try to deride. Unfortunately, no ancient civilization has a linear development from antiquity up to now. Most of them were destroyed by wars, and new powers are ruling the world today. Take ancient rome, greece, egypt, persia and others; and ethiopia cannot be mentioned as an exception. All of these countries are better of than ethiopia for different reasons, e.g. resources, geography, presence and absence of neighboring friendly or enemy forces, etc.

            There is a big difference between the reality on the ground in ethiopia and what you would wish to see. If ethiopia is a failed state, and a leader who has released thousands of people from tplf dungeons, invited back to their country opposition parties and dissidents, freed the media, the judiciary has been made independent and no more controlled as under tplf, etc, and you call this dictatorship, then it seems that in the horn of africa a dictator and a democrat have changed their roles.

            How can ethiopians learn from you about respect for the law and humanity if you build your wall? You will be depriving the rest of the people of the horn the chance to learn from you about law and humanity, if you are going to live behind that tall wall. Why don’t you ask first the ordinary eritrean before you build it? You may be surprised with their response.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Hi Horizon,

            Either you are in deep sleep and dreaming or kidding. Ancient Rome equals now to Europe. Where is your exact address from contemporary Europe? I hope you know your address well or you are still dreaming. Can you compare your miserable situation at present with Europe, Persia and Greece? My friend don’t deceive yourself, just incubate the new dictator well, the skill you are professional at and say Zeraf while you hatch your new master.

            I hope you don’t mean that Isaias is from the Highland of Eritrea. I think Isaias has declared to the world that he is an Ethiopian from Godor. Isaias and his advisers are from Ethiopia, they were just brought up in Eritrea, and many Eritreans thought he is from the highland of Eritrea. Now, the chaff from the grain was distinguished and real Highlanders are shining. My friend, your ploy is exposed; no one will be able to chew and digest.

            Very Important Note: No problem to accept those who were born in Eritrea as Eritreans, but they should be 100% loyal to Eritrea and her people.

            Al-Arabi

          • Selam Al-Arabi,

            OK “ancient rome equals now to europe” and there were not the germans, the british, the gauls who overrun rome, and others, who were fighting the romans from their respective places. IA from what i knew was a tigrayan who is said to have some sort of a faraway relation with the line of a tigayan emperor, and now according to you a gondere. All these are not really important to our discussion.

            What do you mean when you say 100% loyal to eritrea? Who defines loyalty, you? Do you call loyal eritreans only those who live behind your wall? Unfortunately for you, eritreans are calling this slavery and they are running away from it. They do not want to be confined, isolated, and they want to be free. They were not daunted by the shoot to kill order let alone by your wall. Don’t you see that eritreans are moving to the land ruled by the person whom you call a dictator? Don’t you think that your priorities are misplaced by forgetting the real dictator in your own home, and you are on a dictator hunt in some other place? Eritreans are just coming out of the cold, and they want to live. Give them a breathing space. It is not up to you to decide who is an eritrean and who is not, who is loyal and who is not. The more you suffocate them, the more you make them lose their trust. An eritrean who prospers in ethiopia or any other place is not lost to eritrea in any way imaginable. On the contrary, he feels an accomplished eritrean, and if you give him/her the chance he is the one who will develop eritrea in his turn. Whether you like it or not these two people (ethiopians and eritreans) are going to live side by side forever. There is nothing you can do about it.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam millennium
            R u new to the forum? Or r u trying to play horizon, abi , mm here? aman h poltical opinion is obvious, people knows his stand in this forum.

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            GOOD

        • Solomon

          Selam Kadiss,

          The Amhara elites will never forgive TPLF. These are some of the reasons why.

          In Ethiopiain history (at least during the king and Derg era) no body was educated as much as the Amhara ethnic group. Remember all the doctors and professors in A/A University and elsewhere. Despite their educational Superiority they did nothing to alleviate the Ethiopiain masses from their poverty,ethnic inequality and subjugation. Ethiopia was truly the prison of nationalities but the Amhara elites let alone fight with arms for ethnic equality they never admitted it exited except maybe handful University students like Wallellinge and Tilahun Gizaw.

          In contrast when TPLF was formed i don’t remember any body mentioning any doctors let alone professors from Tigray. All the fighters were University students and peasants. But you know what, they didn’t only fight for the liberation of subjugated people but succeeded in liberating the whole ethnic groups of Ethiopia from subjugation and degradation forever. This is their first crime.

          Literally from day one when TPLF begun to rule Ethiopia in 1983 E.C there was fierce resistance from the Amhara elites. They were called illiterate, fifth graders, Dedebit graduates etc. This Dedebit graduates in 27 years brought economic miracle never seen in its history some say maybe since the Axumite kingdom or the Zagwe dynasty. This is their second crime.

          Their third crime is they left power with the country intact. EAST and the Amhara elites were saying day and night TPLF controlled everything and they will not relinquish power easily with out blood path and if they were forced out of power they will disintegrate Ethiopia. None of that happened, the country is intact, the Constitution is intact.

          So they will never ever rest until every legacy of TPLF is destroyed. If the Tigray people are in the way then they must be crushed as well.

          Solomon.

          • Blink

            Dear Solomon
            What’s wrong if the legacy of TPLF got destroyed? I mean their main achievement is ethnic clashes , religious friction between different segregation of Orthodox Church as well as divided Muslims. Killings and many of killings.

            The legacy of weyane is simply all about how many people got killed and 36 billion usd got cheated by their bosses . Weyane legacy got bogged down and that is a good news . The main achievement of the removal of weyane is releasing innocent people from prison, freeing human right activists from death raw .

            So stop this nonsense of coloring weyane with roses because people knows weyane hand is full of innocent Ethiopians blood.

          • Paulos

            Selam Solomon,

            I actually do not agree with you when you said, it is the Amhara elites who are set out to destroy TPLF. I say, they are a pawn where the real machine who is restless till he sees TPLF is gone for good is the lanky guy with a mustache from further North. Let me try to put the reason through a narrative as in a story. A true story.

            In the 1970s, a brainy guy named Graham Allison who was well respected with in the foreign policy think tanks, coined a phrase known as “Thucydides Trap” in which we will see what it means later on as the story unfolds.

            As you may know, Thucydides was an Athenian historian and a military General who is mainly known as the first historian who put history with in a scientific enclave with his magnum opus titled “The Peloponnesian War.” The Peloponnesian war was between the two Greece city states as in Sparta and Athens which lasted for over thirty years during the 5th Century BC and changed the art of warfare and underpinned the intellectual thrust as to why nations go to war in the first place.

            The reason Thucydides is hailed as the first scientific-historian is that he didn’t write the history for its own sake so to speak but employed systematic enquiries to answer the fundamental question as to why the two city-states went to war.

            First however, it was reasonable to put their respective cultural milieu and political philosophy including their strategic locations in a broader context.

            *Sparta is located at the Southern most of the Greece peninsula and had been the most dominant power for over a century before the start of the war. It’s cardinal philosophy was to organize the society into a robust fighting force where physically fit boys at age seven were taken to a military training camp and were allowed to get married at age 20 only to go back to the camp until the age of 30. Militarism was the psych of the entire society. Mothers are believed to have said to their sons as they were off to war, “Come back either bearing your shield or on it.” Do not surrender, they meant.

            Athens on the other hand was a port city isolated from the mainland of Greece by mountains which was limited to trading and took pride in its culture, philosophy, literature and theatre. And before its invention of democracy, it was ruled by oligarchs.

            Before the war however, Persia invaded Sparta and as the legend of the 300 suicidal Spartans held off the invading Persians, the Athenians came for help and the combined force defeated the Persians once and for all. If it wasn’t for the Athenians, the Persians would have crushed the Spartans [Sound familiar?]. That particular moment in history changed the way Spartans and Athenians viewed each other. Athens demanded an equal respect from the Spartans. More over, Athens started to expand its trade center not only with the rest of the city-states but with far of the land nations as well. It discarded its political system which was based on oligarchy and invented democracy where any free and able person had a shot to participate with in the political power dynamics. The whole drastic change Athens exuded didn’t sit well with Sparta as it felt threatened by the sudden rise of Athens and decided to preempt and attack Athens before it became too powerful and the presumed preemption took a life of its own and lasted for thirty years. Graham Allison defined “Thucydides Trap” as when a rising power causes fear in an established power which escalates toward war.

            I am sure the story sounds too familiar when the rise and fall of the friendship and severe animosity between EPLF and TPLF comes to mind. If it was a conventional war in 1998, it is the continuation of the war by other means when the elites you mentioned are in the mix.

            *The story was taken from the book titled, “Destined for War: Can America and China Escape Thucydides Trap”? By Graham Allison.

          • David Samson

            Selam Paul,

            Glad, you are keep refreshing my vague knowledge.

            I might be missing a century or so, but I thought the Persians
            have a song about ‘Alexander the Great’ who conquered Persia. Right?

          • Paulos

            Fratello Davide,

            Was there a song? If it was in Tigrinya….

            ‘ስክንድር ‘ስክንድር ኣታ ጅግና
            ንዓለም ክትገዝእ ምስወጠንካ
            መሰዶንያ ዓሊላ ኣብ ጎደና!

          • David Samson

            Selam Fratello Paulo,

            Gracia!

            Wow! Glad did I ask. I never knew the great man is known in Habesha’s land.

            I know Alexandria is named after him. Out of curiosity, how are
            we related to the Macedonians?

            Just fill me up with wild guess.

          • Paulos

            Davide,

            I guess through Eastern Orthodox faith?

          • Haile S.

            Selam ኣተወብርሃን ጳውሊስ,
            First, welcome to poetryland! Second, you just invented it. ወጠንካ is post independence tigrigna or at least its popular use. Macedonia is መቐዶንያ in tigrigna. You the believers, you don’t know your bible 🙂 🙂 🙂 .

          • Paulos

            Hailat,

            It is a privilege to be welcomed by the master of poetry himself. Thank you.

            I thought ምውጣን was an archaic word for charting ways or planning. You got me with the መቐዶንያ፣ Great catch. Thank you.

          • Haile S.

            Hi Paul,
            You are right about the ምውጣን. The ‘invention’ referred to the song itself. You have to sing it to convince me 🙂 . Le me give you another unregistered song from እንዳ ስዋ።
            ዓይኒ ዕንበባ ዓተር፡ ሽንጢ ውላድ ተመንየ
            ኣበይ ኣበይ ትነብር (ነበረት) እዚ ኩሉ ዘመንየ

          • Paulos

            Hailat,

            Remember? The deal is still on. To chill first at መደበር for ፋታ ኣብ እንዳ የማነ then we will hit it off for a couple of ስዋ at your choosing and will sing.

            Kinda lost me with ሽንጢ. What does it mean?

          • Haile S.

            Paul,
            ሽንጢ means መዓንጣ, in the song, ቀጣን መዓንጣ. It might have been derived from amharic ሽንጥ.

          • Paulos

            Oh ok thanks Hailat.

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          • Solomon

            Selamat Paul say,

            Sorry for the late reply.

            Sure the story sounds too familiar if you know the history of TPLF and EPLF and IA will not leave any Stone unterned to destroy tplf. But I don’t think he will go as far to destroy the Tigrean people as collateral. Even if he wanted to do so he doesn’t have the power to do that.

            The attack on the Tigrean people by the Amhara elites doesn’t start in the past year. They were consistent for 27 years. In the past they didn’t have the power to harm but now thanks to Team Lemma they are openly proclaiming genocide on the Tigrean people.

            I don’t think the Amhara elites are pawn in the hand of IA but vice versa. According to their past narrative IA was the Creator of TPLF, OLF, etc. in short the devil lncarnate. But now their hate for TPLF is so great that they embraced IA as hero and the devil is TPLF and the Tigray people. I don’t think IA has this much hate on Tigray people.

            Solomon.

          • Paulos

            Selam Solomon,

            Policy makers particularly those whose focus is foreign policy employ two working theories when they examine the foreign policy of a particular nation: Intention and Capability. These two scenarios are seen with in the scope of what it is called “Security Dilemma.”

            First, any nation can have the capability to incure damage on another nation but may not have the intention and the reverse also holds true. Second, the defensive posturing of a given nation might wrongly be construed by another nation as an offensive or hostile posturing, hence, “Security Dilemma.” It is with in this reality that more often than not only rational and cool-headed leaders prevail in the rather complex interplay with in and among nations. The dynamics between Eritrea and Ethiopia including the nations in the region beg to be seen with in that light.

            Isaias, as you put it, may not have the capability but he has the intention. Or does he? What if his lack of capability is leveraged by capable nations in the region with intentions as well? Can he resist the temptation to be used and to benefit from the outcome as well?

            Egypt seems to fit-in with in the equation. Why Egypt? Herodotus, the Greek historian who wrote extensively about the war between Greece and Persia once famously said, “Egypt is the gift of the Nile.” Egypt’s life is intertwined by the two deserts on its side and the Nile from the South where the former two prevented Egypt from invasion for they are impenetrable and the latter provided her with a life line. And it is logical for Egypt to divert it sense of being in protecting and preserving the latter.

            The Nile runs for over 4000 miles as it is the longest river in the world but it’s origins are beyond the control of Egypt for it originates from sovereign nations. The Blue Nile which originates in Eastern Ethiopia in particular carries most of the silt for growing crops whereas the White Nile, the experts say, evaporates along the way in Sudan before it reaches Egypt. In fact, if one looks at the ancient history of Egypt, one can see that, the fate of the rulers was intertwined with the size of the Nile river. If it was full, the ruler would be safe but if the flow was inadequate, his reign would be precarious as the people would be discontented. And that is precisely the reason, the Egyptian foreign policy was linked particularly with the strength and weakness of Ethiopia.

            On a side note, it is said that the last King of Ethiopia sent the new breed of intellectuals as in the late Aklilu Habteweld to study in Cairo in a bid not only to understand the history of Egypt but to creat a friendly atmosphere as well. In fact, during the six days war in the late 60s, the King had to choose between two contending advisors where Asrate Kassa was pro-Israel but Aklilu Habteweld was in favour of Egypt where the rationale was seen with in the then emerging Eritrean rebel groups as they were taken to be under the wings of the Arab nations.

            The construction of the Hidase Dam can be viewed by Egypt as a threat when Ethiopia has the capability not the intention. Egypt also may be under the impression that certain groups with in the ruling party in Ethiopia are undermining her sole ownership of the river and may try to find ways to render them weak and support those who agree with her. In the end however, what is needed is peace that could equally benefit all parties for destiny of Ethiopia and Egypt is tied with the river.

          • Solomon

            Selamat Paulosay,

            Of course he doesn’t have the capability does not mean he will not try to get revenge if he got the help from someone. That is what he was trying to do for the past 20 years and what he is doing nowdays. But I think his damage is minimal compared to what the Amhara elites can do to the Tigray people because they have a lot of fanatic followers inside the country.

            Solomon.

          • Abraham H.

            Selam Solomon, if these, by any chance really destroy the TPLF, they would eventually move towards the Eritrean dictator. These Amara elites are out for revenge, because they are so bitter for the loss of power they incurred during the last half century. Now, they see an opportunity to settle their sweet revenge. But these ጠረጥቲ are not capable of touching the TPLF let alone destroy it.

          • Solomon

            Selamat Abraham H.

            If they destroy Tplf and the Tigray people and have the military power to spare who knows what they will do. But I don’t think they can succeed to destroy Tplf or the Tigrean people. What they can do is commit genocide against Tigreans who live in Adiss Ababa and elsewhere in Ethiopia. That is what they are trying to do day and night with ESAT, government Medias in Ethiopia, with social media etc. By agitating Ethiopians it was only the Tigreans who were torturing and looting. They are painting this picture that Tigreans are not like any other Ethiopiain people, they are criminals, thieves, torturers, cancer, የቀን ጅብ etc.

            Solomon.

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    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Ato Kaddis,

      The following of your remark is the true testimony of what Ethiopia have gone through and the organizations you mentioned have also witnessed about the achievements and saw it to be as model for the African countries:

      “I lived through its growth and fruits, its bad and good, envied and being copied in the instruments of the African Union; from DAVOS to G20 to OECD and by your US”.

      Unfortunately, certain domestic political forces are not willing to recognized it. Because, if they do, they couldn’t have an issue to fight for that could ascend them to power. It is all about power; and it isn’t about the people and economic development of your nation. When the engine of progress had gone, it seems everything have fallen apart and the double digits economic development becomes history with the prospect of uncertainty. One only wish and hope that Ethiopia will get a formidable visionary leader who could extract it from this intractable crises.

      • Nitricc

        Hi Aman-H; correct me if I understood you incorrectly; are you saying development becomes ahead of Human rights, the rule of law and justice? you said ” Unfortunately, certain domestic political forces are not willing to recognized it” really? I thought you were among justice seeking crowed? NO?

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Nitrickay,

          What I am saying is, admit the economic progress on the ground, and advocate or fight for human rights and for political openness. But because of lack of human right and political openness, you can’t deny the achievements on the ground. That was and is my position all the way. You know there are still deniers for the economic progress so far has been achieved.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Aman-H; thanks for your response. I guess I am a little lost about the whole Ethiopian situation. How do you define development and achievements regarding Ethiopia? I mean the country IS built every shiny high rise building with loan. The country is in a point of unable paying her creditors. IMF just asked the Ethiopian government to devalue the Ethiopian Birr. This is done due to highest magnitude of corruption in the country. It is a matter of time before Ethiopia defaulted to China. If that is not enough the absence human right and the injustices that was committed to the general public is ….. there is a documentary just got out and I urge you to watch it and judge for your self. And I will never and ever wish that kind of development for Eritrea. I am really confused how you see the term; development.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Nitrickay,

            You see brother, when they burned eleven industries in the south, when they stopped every project for the sake of political change, of course they will be defaulted. Now virtually all their mode of production and their infrastructural projects are stagnated with no production output. Then how do you expect to pay off their loans. Occasionally, I agree with you on the mind of the Africans politicians, on their insatiable desire to stay in power like our despot. Second, corruption for granted is everywhere even in your adopted country. The issue is once the corruption is known and open to the knowledge of the public, they have to fight based on their laws without discrimination and with no attachment to the political ends of some political groups. If the search of crimes is directed to TPLF instead to EPRDF (the alliance or the front) which is the governing body, then they could not bring the needed remedy. So far it looks – let us get rid the Tigrians out of power. That is bad as it gets. After few years we will hear let us get rid of the Amhara or Oromo who ever is in power. While I welcomed the thrust for change, I don’t agree with their political approach and processes. It only plague their politics by mistrust and hates to each other. And that is what we are witnessing killing each other, the Amara to Tigrians, the Oromo to Amaras, the Somalis to the Oromos. If Abiy is a real leader, he has to stop this killing. He must bring stability before any attempt of change.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam aman
            Here is the truth 1st, tplf is tigrai liberation front, which means it’s constituency is tigrai so tplf successe or failure is measured in tigrai.
            2,outside of the military, spy security service, emigration office, media and foreign affairs office, tplf( tigraians in general)presence was so minimal or almost not existed.
            3, tplf was the obstacle for ethiopia growth for the last 27 years, using the advantage of the security apparatus tplf was the one highly involved in corruption,
            4,chack out the documentary of yesterday in ebc, fana and walta,
            U will see who those people r, according to the documentary those people r “BANDA”, highly corrupted, “gebersod××” and unhappy cruel.

          • asmerom

            Selam Tedros A
            Could you please carefully read what Amanuel H wrote in response to Nitric you are adding nothing to what this two guys are talking

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam asmerom
            I haven’t seen his last response to Nitricc but i have seen his earlier response, based on that , i knew he don’t know what he talking about except his effort to defend the tplf.
            That was why i said what i said.

      • Kaddis

        Gash Aman,
        It’s very bizarre how the so called Ethiopianists could not come into terms the nationalists have won 27 years ago.
        The most they are prepared to do is to watch power change hands between the nationalists and cry foul.
        Ethiopians would not settle for clueless economics but demand better governance

    • David Samson

      Hi Kaddis,
      I thought Amde was making a general statement, not a specific about you, hence for my comment. Since he has not corrected it, he is probably meant it then, which is very uncharacteristic of him. He normally does not go personal.

      • Kaddis

        Hi David –

        Yeah – if you are not TPLF; you are working for a Tplf affiliated whatever. Its never ANDM or OPDO affiliated; there are plenty of them
        with billions of birr transaction in Amhara and Oromia. But it has to be TPLF.
        For stating ‘a working constitution’ ( I could even argue it’sa perfect constitution objectively) written by the late Kifle Wodajo; the first
        and only Ethiopian Secretary General of the OAU, by Dr Fasil Nahom – a professional constitutional lawyer who served all three governments ( half Eth half Swedish). Dr Negasso Gidada ( representing OLF at the time ) have been pleading on his memoir & media not to call it Yeweyane constitution as there was only one EPRDF representative at the drafting commission ( Dawit Yohannes later speaker of the house) ..Its a constitution that killed the secessionist desire of big or small movements in Ethiopia after 60 years…which the Andinet hailoch were supposed to celebrate …they will not; because its never about ye Ethiopia Andinet …its their entitlement to power

        Its the same hate induced Ethiopianist recklessness that
        derailed the democratic hope seen pre 2005 election that brought the worse side of EPRDF …which decided to rely on loyalist cadres to perform its ‘working ‘ policies … the rest you know ….

        Bless our young memory lol
        Hope your Friday is full of sunshine as mine 🙂
        Cheers,

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Kaddis,

          Thank you for the info as to how the Ethiopian “constitution” was drafted and evolved. Always detractors tells us that it was a TPLF constitution, which in fact wasn’t. “Centralist” are always against any kind of decentralized government. And I am sure they were “then” and “now” advocating for “centralized unitary government.” And you are absolutely right when you say this: “..Its a constitution that killed the secessionist desire of big or small movements in Ethiopia after 60 years”. The current Federal constitution indeed saved Ethiopia from disintegration in to small states like that of the old Yugoslavia.

        • Nitricc

          Hi Kaddis; when you said the following ” ( I could even argue it’sa perfect constitution objectively)” you are going to make many older Eritreans very happy while upsetting millions of Ethiopians. I wonder how would you write and think of the constitution if you were one of those who lost their lives in prison with no due process. I wonder how you will sound if you were one of the people who lost their body parts to cruel tortures. I wonder how you would think of the constitution if you were the one sexually abused in the so-called under prefect constitution. I get it, you said it to appease some corrupted TPLF thugs and some disgraced Eritreans but there is no perfect constitution in the world let alone on your toothless Ethiopia. come on man!

        • Admassie

          Selam Kaddis,

          Your note: “Its never ANDM or OPDO affiliated; there are plenty of them
          with billions of birr transaction in Amhara and Oromia. But it has to be TPLF.” makes me remember an incident happened in my house decade a go when a fixed telephone line was relevant as a communication means.

          A telephone bill came and the payment was unusually high. I called my son, my nephew and my two nieces, all teenagers. I showed them the bill and asked to tell me what happened.

          After some awkward moment, my son could not stand the pressure and admitted he was calling his friends from home.

          I turned to the others to hear their part. But every one played dumb. After a moment, pressed to yield, they started to tell me, not their part, but whom my son was calling.

          My son kept silent for feeling sympathetic towards them for, if I happen to get angry, he thinks, they would feel unwelcomed. But it got too much and later on he exploded for a quarrel.

          Every one was guilty of that mini incident, but some want to play smart at the expense of their cousin.

          ” Its never ANDM or OPDO affiliated; there are plenty of them
          with billions of birr transaction in Amhara and Oromia. But it has to be TPLF.” How true!

          Admassie A.

        • David Samson

          Selam Kaddis,

          Yes, I have noticed this mindset: TPLF has support in Tigray only and if you support EPRDF, you are either a Tigrayan, or some self-serving citizen. There is no grey area. In fact, many diaspora’s Ethiopians identify themselves with their ethnicity first. I do not know whether it is good or bad. People who have been accusing TPLF are now inadvertently or unwillingly fell in the very trap that has been set by TPLF, and the funny thing is they are unaware there are acting or speaking from an inside the cage.

          The Sun? In a week’s time, the days start to get longer on this part of the globe, though it is still cold and dark. I am lucky that I do not live in Minnesota and ask Berhe when was the last time,
          he has seen some light— forget the Sun.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi David,

            Haha. Not at all plenty of Sun and a lot more. If there is anywhere where there is true divide of the four seasons, it’s where I am:).

            Even during the snowy winter season, if you get to love the winter activities such as skating and skiing, it really is very short (even telmeden like me):). And that’s what I advice all recent immigrant, if you want to live here long term and you kids want to enjoy living here, you need to do the winter activities. It’s a long stretch if you are habesha :).

            Berhe

    • Amde

      Selam Ato Kaddis, Ato Admassie,

      I applaud you for your work.

      But I am afraid we are talking different things.

      My mentioning of civil service was not meant as a put down or insult. My apoligies if you took it that way. Ato Kaddis, you provide us with updates on economic projects and activities often and that was my reason for assuming you may be a civil servant. I actually appreciate the many many professionals who work in the machinery of state. I get into these discussions and arguments with a lot of Ethiopian professionals that either work for the government or are pro-EPRDF. They point it the good work they do – which is perfectly fine but beside the point.

      God knows I have spent more time praising EPRDF for it’s economic and social work in this site for a number if years now and defending their good work. I also specifically said that I do not expect other parties to have as good a pro-poor focus as EPRDF has done.

      We got into a discussion of the “working constitution” and this is where I disagree on just how “working” it is. To me, the point of the “constitutional” system is to provide a known and orderly process and mechanism for the resolution of political issues in order to have a stable and peaceful country.

      By any objective measure, the country was not peaceful or stable over the past four years. You may argue things got worse after Abiy got here, and of course I would beg to differ. But the internal displacements are not fiction. The ethnic based conflicts are not fictions. The tens of thousands that got released from jail are not fiction. The leveraging of Qerro street muscle by the OPDO, and Fanno street muscle by ANDM is not fiction. Shiferaw Shigute was edged out for trying to use Sidama street muscle. Abdi Illey was starting up his own version of the Qerro before he was put in jail. So then how is TPLF any different from her sisters? She just got outsmarted and now she is using even more lethal muscle.

      And all of these are the “governing parties” with the legitimacy of the meto be meto Parliament.

      These are not “Ethiopianists” by any stretch of the imagination. I challenge you to name me one incident over the past year or two you can point to as being cause by “Ethiopianists” and “Andinetists”. There is none.

      But we do have incidents today in the here and now between communities. There is fighting in Moyale between Somali and Oromo. Awasa is at a stand still. Harar as far as I can tell is still thirsty, Oromo students in Jigjiga University are sleeping in the cafeteria because they are scared of sleeping in their dorms. Are any of those Ethiopianists caused? Nope.

      To any fair observer of the objective facts:
      A) EPRDF – which is supposed to be the platform for ethnic elites to resolve their differences has proved useless,
      B) 90+% of internal displacements and strife’s are along ethnicity lines,
      C) the meto be meto Parliament which is supposed to be the people’s voice is moribund (I don’t recall them doing anything to get a single displaced person back to their homes)

      So then, how can one objectively argue that we have a political system (let alone a constitutional one) that promotes peace and stability? Let alone the joke that any of this is caused by Ethiopianists or Unionists.

      I would argue the evidence is very strong that the system implemented a generation ago has yielded:
      A) a class of GOVERNING (as opposed to opposition) elite whose only tools of trade appear to be maximizing differences and street agitation (which is actually astounding when you think of it);
      B) a new population easily primed for ethnic mobilization.

      I think this is a pretty much open and shut case. How we get out of it is where we diverge I suppose. What you consider medicine, I consider the poison killing the patient.

      Amde

      • Admassie

        Selam Amde,

        Thank you for clearing up respectfully and that is the reason you are hailed in this respected forum. FYI, I am not a civil servant. I am just a professional working independently. But I supported EPRDF before it lost its momentum.

        I agree that EPRDF has a big share in what we became of us currently and I believe some of its fall-outs are here:

        a. It was so arrogant to react to the concern of people that genuinely believe it is not working to our unity. It has alienated that part of society in a blanket accusation by tugging as “የትምክህት ሀይሎች”.

        b. Failed in creating a common understanding of our unity and the constitution.

        c. Failed in nurturing a vibrant media.

        d. The adamant silence to the critics that vital public positions are occupied by TPLF.

        e. Inept to stop human rights abuse and corruption.

        But, I do not think the current crisis is just a separate incident to be attributed only to EPRDF’s fractured stand. It is a cumulated effect to be also accounted to the action most of the oppositions and elites were engaged from the get going:

        a. In vilifying that anything EPRDF as TPLF and anything TPLF as anti Ethiopia.

        b. In thrashing the constitution as a useless document, not because they believe it is bad, but it is brought by an entity they hate and have contempt for.

        c. In painting the federalism as a system created for evil purpose; to divide and rule.

        d. In belittling any progress and development made.

        e. In creating hate against tigray by accusing unfoundedly that it is developing at the cost of the rest of the country.

        f. In using “free” media as a medium in disseminating hate and animosity without caring the outcome in the long ran and became a disservice to the development of independent media.

        I believe these fallouts have a role in shaping the mindset of our citizens and the now and here crisis is, therefore, the result of this mindset.

        The constitution and the federal system could work perfectly if we are committed and genuine enough in seeking a working solution to our people. But if we are acting like ሞገደኛ ደብተራ, well, any medicine could be turned in to a poison.

        Admassie A.

        • Mitiku Melesse

          Hei, AA.
          If you wrote the cons and the pros of Eprdf/tplf I could have understood it as your personal view. But your strange way of criticizing of tplf/eprdf vs the oppositions shows that you are biased.

          Try again, why the tplf is inseparable with old Eprdf. When did Eprdf come to exist, who created Eprdf, who changed EPDM to ANDM with deliberate Tigrians take the upper hand in so called Amara party. Who disarmed Olf and made puppet Opdo to represent Oromos, why all LFs against tplf are considered terrorist but the rest LFs can called sisterly parties to Eprdf….You answered it clearly in your own funny way by saying ”d. The adamant silence to the critics that vital public positions are occupied by TPLF.”.. I said funny because you call it silence. We call it screaming to the top of our voices of 27 years non Tigrians killings, put in prison, lost land and wealth, internal and external displacement, exposed for torture, the list is long. You were mislead by yourself because you concluded that it is the position and oppositions which made us what we are now by excluding the mass. What a pity. Tplf has had a plan and used Eprdf as camouflage, the moment Eprdf made itself free from master servant relationship with tplf then tplf started to scream it is not fair. Imagine what Tplf could do if the new Eprdf makes all the atrocity against Tigrians because they support Tplf. Just imagine. To make sure what i mean just compare how many non Tigrians killed with the rest of the killils compared to its respective population, the generals, the securities, the contractors, the control of the wealth, the number of billionaires, millionaires, city development compared to its population size…then you understand what the rest of Ethiopians mean.

          As you have said if the new eprdf exercisers the constitution and the federal system it would work for the betterment of the majority but concluding it works perfectly we dont know for sure. The worst mistake of Tplf is that it abused the constitution from the first day it was declared.

    • rapheal wilson
  • Selam

    Selamat George,

    Still you are in propaganda mode and to live in the past era. I did not say self-reliance is bad or good, whether it is good or bad for the Eritrean people it should be decided by the people. Eritreans did not get that chance. Do you want to deny that or divert the theme like always. Answer my question.
    “It is kind of funny when you talk about institutions when your first plan was killing our leaders. That is what American CIA does.” Yes I did said that still I believe on that. What is DIA doing? does he send people to the resort, does he help Eritreans to go to heaven instead of living in this world corrupted by sin?. If someone come to kill you, you a right to defend. Eritrean struggle for independent also did the same ፈዳይን. they are labeled as terrorist by Derg and his complicit country and we Eritreans call it fighting for independent. The same principle apply here.ብዝሰፈርካያ መስፈሪያ እያ ትስፈረልካ. If you fight for freedom and do not give a freedom you will be removed with the same principle.
    If he starts to make a fundamental change I will be the one to forgive him for the sin he made. I believe on forgives to stop the vicious cycle of revenge, but for someone who want to kill me I do not have a mercy.
    Please do not talk to much about the past, sanction bla..bla… Now we do not have any excuse to entertain crime against a country. Stop defending the dictator and engage to put pressure on DIA to bring change or give his leadership to other that who can bring change to Eritrea. Learn from others (PMAA) instead of complaining and present yourself as a victim of others.
    Everything is over pasta, turn your finger to yourself.

    Have a nice day.

  • Amanuel

    Hi Alex
    One example is the services and facility of the municipality build by Harrgot.

  • Mez

    Dear Hope,

    1) Eritrea was-/is-/will-NOT be USA, or Rusia, or China. Stop doing senseless comparison. We simply have not the means (in every aspect) to do things in paar.
    2) tplf is an Ethiopian political entity (albeit withe a lot of old to be solved political mishap-bagages). Nothing much pia SHALL DO here. The more PIA feels invited to the party in fighting tplf, the more he is going to erode the existance and souverginity of eritrea.
    3) the term terrorism in Ethiopian context is REVISED ,by pmaaa. the fighting is morre ideological to win the minds and hearts of peoples, than straying bulets, at least hopefully.
    4) before the peace agreement was signed, the two nation were at war, so nothing to extrapolate from that one political era to this new one.

    Thanks

  • Paulos

    Selam My Good People,

    Back in the days, when we were growing up in Asmara, we used to say ሓኪሉ if anyone of us pulled AWOL on us. Perhaps, the immediate suspicion was either he crossed to Sudan and later on in the mid 80s, in rare cases, it was maybe he sneaked out to ሜዳ as the frequency was less and less in later years.

    These days, Sal seems to have pulled ሓኪሉ on us where his whereabouts is limited to ኣብ ገለ ገለ ቦታታት ተራእ’ዩ ኢሎሞ፣ and others say, ኣብ tweeter ትባሃል ዓዲ ተራእ’ዩ ኢሎሞ፣ and some say, ሓንቲ ናይ ብሕቱ ትካል ኤርትራ ጥሓኒ [Eritrea Digest] ትባሃል ከፊቱ ኢሎሞ። Certainly, the latter is more credible for his signature is all over the site.

    And today, he shared a take of his Ethiopian friend as the latter jotted down about his impression on Asmarinos when he spent sometime with them in Asmara. Not sure if it is the right people in the wrong city or the wrong people in the right city. Asmarinos are in contradiction.

    As I read the well written essay, something my cousin had said to me years ago crossed my mind. I remember it was in the early 2000s and I happened to be in Europe visiting family. As I walked with her to catch the subway, she saw a litter on the side of the street and she picked it up and put in to the garbage bin. And she said to me, Isaias taught us that a nation is built starting with small things—-ኢሳያስ ሃገር ትህነጽ ብንእሽተይ ነገር እዩ ኢሉ ምሂሩና እዩ። She was never a big fan of Isaias but gave him a credit for what he deserves. Almost a decade and half years later, her peers in Asmara are telling the author of the essay, cleaness of the city is attributed to their own volition not to Isaias where he instead according to the author has sent the city back in to the stone-ages [I paraphrased.]

    • Haile S.

      Morning, Paul,
      You are very funny when don’t talk ..LF:-) 🙂 🙂 .
      I like your ኤርትራ ጥሓኒ [Eritrea Digest]. Sal እንዳ ጥሓኒት ክፊቱ ከም ኣባ-ሙሽሙሽ. If my memory is not betraying me ኣባ-ሙሽሙሽ had እንዳ ጥሓኒት, unless it was hardware store. I will check his flour later. Do you remember, you had to hit the big drum hard in order to let the slightest flour remaining in the machine drop down? Those drums have the marks of Asmara mothers including mine and yours.

      • Paulos

        Selam Hailat,

        ብ’LF ሓቢጥና! It is nice to have something for a change. It is funny, you reminded me of something. I am sure you had one of your relatives coming from ዓዲ either for further schooling or for work and took up a small room in your parents house. And the norm as you know is “La mia casa e’ la tua casa.”

        And as it happened, we had a super fun relative who lived with us to that end. Before we knew it however, he started having a thing with one of the girls who worked in one of the እንዳ ጣሓኒት and the guy was not only into her but kept asking my mother, he would volunteer to take እኽሊ ናብ እንዳ ጣሓኒት till my mother started to get suspicious if he was up to something. I would tag on with him as a kid and come back home covered with a combination of ሕሩጭ። Thing is, if he first had a huge crash on her when she was covered with ዝተጣሕነ እኽሊ, how would he have felt, if he had seen her off work when she was dressing up at her best? She must had been something or in the eyes of the beholder, as they say. He would ask me not to tell anyone till his mother found him a wife from ዓዲ። Love in strangest places!

        • Haile S.

          Paul,
          Very nice story! I like it.
          ብLF ሓቢጥና ጥራይ፡ ጎቢጥና እምበር። በል ትሓጺብካ ኣብ ጭቃ ድ’ኣ ካይከውን እምበር፡ ብቐዳማይ ኮፍ ኢለ ብዛዕባ LF ዝገጠምኩዋ ኣዘኻኺርካኒ። እንሃለትካ፣

          ነጻ ኣውጽእ ኣውጽእ ይመጸኒ
          ንባዕለይ ኣሲረ ኢድኒ እግርኒ

          “ነጻ ኣውጪ ድርጂት” በብሓደ ወጺኦም ካብ ዓድና
          ንጓና ነጻ ንኸነውጽእ፡ ኣብ ዓለቕቲ ንሕና
          ኣብ ነጻነት ኣሲሩ ሒዙና እቲ ናህና
          ኣብ ውሽጢ ኮነ ኣብ ወጻኢ ንዘለና
          ንባዕሎም’ውን ኣሲሮም ተቓወምቲ ኣካልና
          Proxy-war የካይዱ እቲ ኮነ እቲ ኣብ ጎረቤትና
          ንዝሓለፉ 57 ዓመታት ነጻነት ኮይኑ ቃልስና
          30 ዓመታት ንባዕልና
          7 ዓመት መሰጋገሪና
          ~20 ዓመት ንጎረቤትና
          ንባዕልና ኣሲርና
          ነጻ ከነውጽእ ሰይቡ ጸጉርና
          ኣመል ድ’ዩ ኮይኑና?
          ንኻልእ ኣፍቲሕና፡ ንባዕልና ዝዳጎንና?
          ነጻ ዝወጽእ ካይንስእን ዲና ፈሪህና?
          ደጊም እቲ ቅኑዕ ዘዋጽኣና
          ነጻ ንሓዋሩ ነውጽእ ንባዕልና ካብ ባዕልና
          ምትሕምማይ “ኣገልጋሊ ናይ ስኽቶ” ምባል ገዲፍና።

          • Paulos

            Hailat,

            You are gifted. That was nice. Thank you!

        • Nitricc

          wrong—-) DUP

        • Ismail AA

          Selam Dr. Paulos,
          Nice anecdote regarding your relative and her learnt culture about cleanliness from morally unclean person. But, really Dr. have not you read through the duration of your wide reading way of life that dictators distribute drugs with idefinite expiry date to hoodwink people about virtues they do not own?

          • Haile S.

            Selam Ismail,
            I will let our house physician to come up with the drug, but as the house shaman myself, I know they sacrifice for their Gods what is called Scapegoat (መስዋቲ ወጠጦ). Please see Hope’s comment from 13 hrs ago, below.

          • Paulos

            Selam Kbur Haw Ismail AA,

            I am sure by now, you have noticed that I am a big fan and “student” of Fukuyama. And this is how in his book titled, “State Building: Governance And World Order In The 21st Century” he crisply categorized a nation [In fact he calls the nations a weak or failing states] under a leader like Isaias:

            I. Commit human rights abuses.
            II. Provoke humanitarian disasters.
            III. Drive massive waves of
            immigration.
            IV. Attack their neighbors.

        • Haile S.

          Selam Paul and all,

          ወጹብ! ዓወተ መረብ ሰጊሩ

          ሓፋሽ ወዲ-ዓወተ መረብ ሰጊሩ
          ሃሰስ ይብል ነገር ኢትዮጵያ ጻሓቲሩ

          ናይ መራሒኡ ኤሱ ተኸቲሉ ኣሰር
          ብስሓቦ ጉተቶ ይወጣወጥ ይሰራሰር

          እስኪ እንተ-ተምልሰ ናብ ቤቱ
          ብጳውሎስ ክጅምር ብተዘክሮ ቁልዕነቱ
          ደርፊ ረኺበሉ እንሃለ እንዳ-ጠሓኒቱ
          https://youtu.be/i0LR-SAyepE

          • Paulos

            Selam Hailat,

            Many thanks for sharing a knock out and top of the chart song. The icing is of course when እንዳ ጣሓኒት is in the mix. I am sure ተኽለ my cousin whose heart was stolen by a girl from እንዳ ጣሐኒት would have a sudden memory lane glitch if he had heard the song. Perhaps, the looks of the beautiful girl in the video would be more striking far more than the song for him to the very least. He is in America and will get to see him next summer in a wedding of a common cousine and will show him the video.

          • Haile S.

            Selam Paul,
            My intention was to distract. I searched for a nice exiting recent song, but was not easy till I found this perfect one. Your nice anecdote oblige, I immediately thought of you. It is your fault:-) :-). Many times I watch songs from Eritrea just to see the background. When in Asmara, it reminds me of our unforgettable city. I know almost all the corners and when in doubt it is a good exercise for to identify the corner. If you haven’t been back since you left, not a lot have changed. Even though there is expansion on the periphery, you cannot get lost as you will find land marks very easily.
            Best

          • Paulos

            Thank you Hailat,

            You are right. We get carried away with LF stuff and it is good to step out and chill.

            I have been back a number of times and as you said, the notable landmarks are too conspicuous too miss particularly in Asmara.

    • Nitricc

      Hi P; so, what is the reason SAAY is not participating? I mean what is going on? you must know something to bring SAAY up in here. Again what is up?

    • Amanuel

      Hi Dr Paulos
      I recall IA promising to narrow the gap between cities and villages (country side) in one of his long interviews in the 90s. Little did I knew what he meant was to drag Asmara to the village standard by distroying it’s world class inhereted facilities and services.

      • Paulos

        Selam Amanuel,

        How do you say “Cultural Revolution” in Tigrinya?

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Dr Paulos,

          How about “ባህላዊ ሰውራ” until Aman comes with his own? This is from the vocabulary of ELFites.

          • Paulos

            Selam Professor A. Hidrat,

            I am sure you knew where I was headed with that when Mao’s infamous “Cultural Revolution” comes to mind.

            Stalin’s “Collectivization” and “Mao’s “Great Leap Forward” are the major failures of totalitarian regimes where Isaias’ is not an exception including his tacit neglect of what Asmara had to offer since the 1930s which was a rare feat not only in Africa but on par with the then modern cities as in Buenos Aires—Argentina, for instance.

        • Amanuel

          Hi Dr Paulos
          ኣነስ ማሕበራዊ ለውጢ ምበልኩ። This is IA’s cultural revolution.

        • Mitiku Melesse

          ሰላም
          ባማርኛ ከበሮ በሰው እጅ

    • saay7

      Paulos and all:

      I am here, I am there, I am everywhere. Here as a listener, there as a talker, and over there as polemicist. When I told you I am leaving the awate team a few years ago, I told you I will try to do something complementary, remember? Thus the enda Tahanit. And a bit more direct advocacy: politicos, NGOs etc.

      On Issu, remember to always write the proper description between two commas. As in: Isaias Afwerki, who has been credibly accused of committing crimes against humanity, ….

      saay

      • Nitricc

        Hey SAAY; thanks for the clarification.

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Dear Saay,

        I miss your inputs and debating with you a thing I have been enjoying. Just my feeling.

        • Haile S.

          Selam Emma,
          How can you miss the omnipresent? እንዳበለ፥
          ክትቃወሙ ሓደ ክልተ እንተተኣኪብኩም
          ኣነ ኣለኹ ኣብመጎኹም ሳልሳይኩም 🙂

  • Brhan

    Hi George,
    Firstly, if you only read my comment with smile …I did not say the law can protect the fool” I said the opposite. I even said it in Arabic if you know Arabic you will know what I said in English is the same in Arabic.
    Secondly, my main topic with Nitricc was about his insult to Eritreans , when he said “So, they ( Eritreans) are going to Tigray because there is a free food.
    About sympathizing….let me see how you answer to Nitric’s saying that our people are going to Tigray because there is a free food.
    I know ahead of time you are going to sympathize with him. The proof is that your ignoring to what he said and imagining to what I said

  • Dear all,
    We have always been very accommodating to diverse view because we want to keep nurturing a civil discourse. However, a few members tend to be disruptive and disrespectful to other members. Still, we kept advising them to tone down but they do not seem to be willing to improve their debating manners. Today we repeat and say that all members are free to express their views without worrying about being insulted and disrespected. And our moderators have the duty to protect members from the abuse by a few members. Therefore, we would like to bring the following to your attention:

    1. If anyone is coming here to fight, please stay away.
    2. If anyone is coming here to advance a viewpoint, you are welcome as long as you do it with respect and maturity.
    3. Insults, belittling and provocative words are against the spirit of this platform and will not be tolerated..
    4. No one should be bullied and abused for having a different view–and their views should be challenged withing the parameters of what they express and nothing else.

    We hope the few who are fond of distracting civil discourse will refrain and improve your debating manners.

    Thank you

    Awate Team

  • George

    Hi Ayneta

    I see you giving out advice to fellow Eritrean Blink. I read your post with interest hoping to learn new stuff. I was a disappointed. Because it seems like you either did not understand what we, blink, Mitiku, me and others are trying to tell the characters such as PAULOS[xxx], Amanel hidrat, brehe.

    Do not try to sale TPLF while at the same time putting down Eritreans. It is a pointless attempt. One that only shows the deceitful nature of Sam characters in this website. Frankly it is embarrassing. In that people who are educated are desperately trying to convince us the impossible.

    Under the guise of democracy free speech they tried to present the destructive tplf agenda. By any measure, tplf have been a very destructive organizations in the last 30 years. Look no further than what happened in Ethiopia. Hear the people that you trying to defend have been regurgitating the following things.

    1. TPLF was the sole force that defeated Derg. False

    2. Tplf of the democratic organization. False
    3. Tplf was a miracle worker in terms of economy. False.
    4. Tplf can be trusted. False
    5. Tplf have been picked on by other people. False

    As we speak and witnessed by millions TPLF has shown its shortsighted, belligerent frankly embarrassing nature by dragging the poor people of Tigray for a rally. The road to peace is simple. Leave Eritrean land. Give back Amhra land. Hand over mass murderers and robbers. ( in Ethiopia case)

    Now i believe we can have meaningful conversation.

    • Brhan

      Hi George,
      Can you ask the same questions (1 to 5) with regard to PF(JD) with true and false answers? Specially # 2, 3 ( because Nitricc informed d that Eritreans are fleeing to Tigray, Ethiopia for food)
      Let us the meaningful conversation!

  • Brhan

    Hi all,

    In our discussions, let us not forget our prisoners, specially the children. When it comes to children prisoners, many observers fear it will most definitely result in their long term mental health problems. Yesterday, I called a friend to ask him if his 13 years old is out of prison , he told me he isn’t. That poor child and others of course have been languishing in prison for the past 11 months and without any trial

    • FishMilk

      Hi Brhan. The imprisonment of any minor without just cause is unequivocally and without question a crime for which should never ever be condoned under any circumstance. My heart goes out to them and their families. It is really bothersome and PIA is clearly accountable for this atrocity.

    • Abraham H.

      Dear Brhan, I think we Eritreans are collectively suffering from an illness called taking the unusual as normal. ነቲ ዘይንቡር ከም ንቡር ወሲድናዮ። ኣዝዩ ዘጒሂ ኢዩ።

  • Brhan

    Hi All,
    This forum was supposed to be Eritrean: host Eritrean issues in the first place. I see it now full of Ethiopian issues. And those who are reporting about Ethiopia, and by those I mean precisely Eritreans, please take your time and effort about the situation in Eritrea: The woos are numerous but to start with:
    1. We have had a thousands and thousands of prisoners of conscience, including 14 years old and below children languishing in prison without trial. Why are not talking about them
    2. Why is it that everyone wants to leave Eritrea?
    3. Why is Agelglot still infinite?
    or proof me the opposite with FACTS and by being civilized commentator/s?

    • Paulos

      Selam Brhan,

      Only three days ago alone, 520 Eritreans including mothers crossed to Ethiopia, “Enda’ba-Guna.” Go figure!

      • Nitricc

        Hi P let’s face it. Africans will go to the moon for free stuff. So, they are going to Tigray because there is a free food. It is not secret that Africans are addicted to Aid and Eritreans are no exception. The man tried to restore dignity and self reliance but at the end the African gene wins. The good news is that Eritrea will be built with few and the believer who stayed home.

        • Brhan

          Hi Nitricc,
          This is hate crime…to insult Africans….If you live in the west becareful…you can be sued on hate crime. My guess is that you are in Eritrea where there is no law, including hate crime law

          • Nitricc

            Hi Brhan; I think you are watching way too much TV. how is this crime? funny when the president of united states comes out and calls you a sh!!t hole continent it is fine when I called for what really you are it is a crime. get real dude. At least know the rules before you made a fool out of your self. Again; Africa is addicted to foreign Aid!!!!!! the END.

          • Brhan

            Hi Nitricc…Are you African? and do not be afraid in asking me how is this crime…you should know it….as our Arab neighbours say…Al Qanoon Ma Yahmi Al Muqafaleen…law can’t protect the fool

        • Mez

          Dear Nitricc,

          “….The man tried to restore dignity and self reliance….”

          1) I think you are referring by this the pia activities over the past decades, either as an enabler, in the formational stages (70/80-ies), or as the lead implementer subsquently afterwards.

          2) unfortunately at the end of the day, his action of plan almost always had an anihilative effect on people’s life prospect. 2.1) Two of those ill conceived basic policy foundations of the pia are “self reliance”, & centralized “command macroecomomic” policies.

          3) further–of all possibley needed and urgent embassy services to a country–his desire/intention to install his spying agency in another (theoretically vital) country leads one to wonder what he understands under “international law, basic principles of interplay between/among nations…”.

          3.1) officially opening a spy-office in another country may imply that the whole relationship among them is suspect, to start with.

          So general Nitricc, a fundamental soul-search and recalibration of policies is long overdue–that before a third or a quarter of the population crosses the Mereb River to the South–before unforeseen political avalanche starts to shake the nation to the core.

          Thanks

          • Nitricc

            Hi Mez; I will be glad to answer you in full and detailed but I am against time. so, to be brief; according your reasoning above; Singapore should been a failed state and should never have succeeded. Mez; it is about the people and their mentality. Any African country could be successful and free aid if they had the mentality to be free and the dignity that comes with it. In my opinion and the way I see it that Africans are confused caught between the excuse of colonization and the self-laziness. If any African country to break form this shackle is Eritrea. If the 90% of people to cross the border; we wi8ll get the job done with rest of 10% who are determined to see it through. So, right now Eritrea is in state of cleansing. As they say pain is nothing but weakness leaving the body. let the weak, the corrupt and coward leave the country. let them go!!!!

          • George

            Der Mez

            I respectfully disagree. In the 70s and 80s are also in the 90s self-reliance motto has served us Eritreans well. During the war for liberation and after. It would be a pointless and disingenuous discussion when one talks about Eritrea be it political and/ or economic without acknowledging The Unwanted interference in the domestic Affair of Eritrea from USA/EU. It has made it very very difficult on Eritrean government and ita people. Self-reliance is a noble cause. It is a process. It is the only way. Could you Enlighten us what other way we can move up? should we surrender our political and economic independence? And what we will get for it? How else is a country supposed prosper?

          • Selam

            Selamat George,

            I think the question is not whether self-reliance work for Eritrea or not. Do the Eritrean people want to have this policy? We do not know because GoE does not give a right to the people to give his idea in any form. Is self-reliance policy ever evaluated in Eritrea? No it is not because we do not have the institution that evaluates the policy.
            The answer is just give the Eritrean people the right to choose the policy for the betterment of the country and allow to have institution to evaluate the policies and optimize to fit the actual condition.
            Everybody of us a right to say about any policy, but the one chosen by the policy makers should implemented not by individual.
            You said this and that country are interfering in our internal policy. We are not living outside of this world what is happening to other countries off course will happen to as. We are not different. GoE also interfering in other countries matter. Why are you trying to present as if it happens only to us? Every country try to interfere in another country based on the geo-political or geo-economical interest. The depth of interference depend on the strength and unity of the country and also smartness of the government.
            Strength and unity is a result of economy and strong institution.
            We look outside the last 27 year now is the time to look inside.

            Have a nice day.

          • Nitricc

            Hi George; you have asked no African have the guts to answer your question. You said “How else is a country supposed prosper?” what a great question. Let me answer your question. The very definition of prosperity in African’s mind is taking a lone and building high rise building, having multiple Tv stations witch their job is to introduce and spread toxic western cultures and western diseases. I can go on and on but I give one very prime example; take a look at Ethiopia and your get my drift. For any nation to prosper and to get to the promised land, then that nation has to go through trying times and dark nights. It is just like personal life; you invest on your self and you shall be rewarded the fruits of your investment. likewise, Eritrea tried to revers the trend of addition to Aid, an end to laziness and building toward self dignity and pride but some can’t this vision and want to go to Tigray for 10kg wheat and a can of cooking oil. I ask you what do you do about it? Nothing! you let them go, let the nation be cleansed. However; make no mistake, Eritrea will be a truly prospers and full of serenity nation in Africa. you know why? because the price was paid.

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Hi Nitricc,

            (…… make no mistake, Eritrea will be a truly prospers and full of serenity nation in Africa.) 30 years were not enough to make Eritrea prosper under your uncles rule. How many years more do you need to make Eritrea prosper? Please, give us a limited time. When will we expect to reach prosperity stage under PFDJ rule? We are in Digital Age, so we want a fixed time.

            I would like to remind you, there are countries in the world reached competitive stage within 10 years. Can you tell us what is the Gross Domestic Product (GDP) per capita in Eritrea this year, I mean, 2018?

            The first step towards development and prosperity is education, and your uncle Isaias doesn’t like education. He has high allergy towards scholars.

            Al-Arabi

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Selam Mez

            U said “officially opening a spy-office in another country may imply that the whole relationship among them is suspect, to start with.”
            Where did you find this? Is there an incontrovertible evidence asserting Eritrea has opened a SPY-OFFICE in Ethiopia?
            However, don’t you know that embassies, including the Ethiopian embassy in Eritrea, also contain intelligence arms/units?

          • Mez

            Good Day Mahmud S,

            1) The news came from Awate: ” Eritrean Intelligence Establishes Bases in Ethiopia”.

            2) the statement above is my own opinion.

            3) yes embassies may somehow embed such elements in a more or less subtle way; not as the first major office–as it appears understandable from the news piece above.

            4) I strongly believe there are a couple of dozen urgent matters to be done via the embassy than the spy branch. As usual the return on investment wouldn’t be far fetching (for eritrea/n).

            Thanks

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Ahlan Mez
            And what better tasks our embassies could do than helping our diplomatic orbit widen. The president is in Somalia, and will travel to Kenya, and s
            Soon to Djibouti. This is a diplomatic offensive to cut the tentacles of the bloody TPLF. It will have positive returns for our domestic reforms. The mantra, Eritrean solution to Eritrean problems, will have conducive atmosphere to reverberate.

          • Mez

            Good day Mahmud S,

            With the phrase ” Eritrean solution to Eritrean problems, …”, you brought the key potential bad intention of pia to light.

            What one may really garner from all these flurry of diplomatic bac and forth is pia would try to export Eritrean solution to regional and other nations problems. All that is happening at the expense of the country and of course the people.

            This is extremely toxic to Eritrean interest in every aspect.

            Thanks

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Selam mes
            Please explain how. Thanks.

        • Selam

          Selamat Nitricc,

          I hope You will go and help the man to build the country.

          Have a nice day.

      • Alex

        Hi Paulos,
        Were did you get the information. There is no update on UN website reliefweb for Eritrean refugees in Ethiopia since the first wave that arrived after September 11. Could you let us your sources. Thanks

    • FishMilk

      Hi Brhan. The issues that you have mentioned above are indeed important. However, there are a few considerations: 1) Tenants and provisions of the Peace Agreement must be fully implemented to include demarcation and accordant withdrawal (ball now in the court of Ethiopia with focus on TPLF), 2) Only a few of the many posters here wish to make any effort to engage with the Eritrean Government on the issues that you have mentioned as they are either simply for all-out overthrow of the PIA/PFDJ regime or they support unionism/agaiazianism, and 3) A secure Ethiopia is in the interest of not only Eritrea but also the Horn of African and herein most commentators are willing to constantly and viciously defame, discredit and attack PMAA and to engage in conspiracy theories.

      • Haile S.

        Hi FishMilk,
        Whatever reason you mentioned here does not prevent the regime from making an opening a path to solving the problem of the nation. The opposition will not stop from asking the head of the regime. Only the regime can bring their question to a certain path that doesn’t hurt the nation, by making changes that are at its hands, if it wills and by a genuine proposal to those opposing it. The regime appears to have cut its tentacles that could have reached the different segments of our society. Its internal diplomacy is inexistant, limited to ሓፋስ ኤርትራ page filler “various dimplomatic activities conducted in this and that city by diasbora eritreans”. Its external diplomacy by the “siamese twins” who seem to be devoid of the minimal diplomatic language based on what we have seen during their first visit to Ethiopia. The crippled opposition need suggestion and help from the regime that has voluntarily crippled itself. Your third point doesn’t make sense. Are we modern day ‘biblical Job’, leaving our bare existence and livelihood for eternal salvation by working bare stomach for neighbor’s earthly salvation?

      • Brhan

        Hi Fishmillk
        “Tenants and provisions of the Peace Agreement must be fully implemented to include demarcation and accordant withdrawal (ball now in the court of Ethiopia with focus on TPLF)”
        You said the above as a Fishmilk or as an echo to the regime in Eritrea. Because the regime hardly asked that officialy ( the opposition are asking) at since the new MEDEMER era either at a national or regional or international level..correct if I am wrong with a PROOF

        • Mitiku Melesse

          Hei Brhan.
          Dont you think the oppositions can be herd better if they become position? So based on your engagement in becoming position when do you think you or your party make sure the peace agreement implemented fully in the speed you planned. As for the opposition it has taken 27 years to com so far.

          • Brhan

            Hi Mitiku
            Eritrea has lot of issues, on of them is the demarcation. When I talk about the opposition , I am talking about our issues: rule of law, freedom of speech and democracy and etc ….and do not measure it by years…as long there is governing there will be those who rule and those who will oppose for the sake of a nation. For example, you will agree with me that you will agree with all that PMMA does or say..meaning if you disagree with him in some points you will say I disagree with…you see how this is limit less..its as our Arab neighbours day Sunatul Alhayat….that is the norm of life….

      • Selam

        Selamat FishMilk,

        The GoE/PFDJ is in the position to invite all Eritreans to engage in all issues of Eritrea, like PMAA did. We all knows what happens to those they have different ideas. Engagement can come from mutual respect and freedom of having your own idea and opinion.
        You have witnessed yourself some days a go, as you post different idea than GoE supporter. They try to label you as Weyane. With such kind of PFDJist attitude how can you engage yourself with GoE.
        Many individual and group of Eritreans tried engage themselves with the GoE , but as soon as they criticize PIA or oppose his idea, either they will land ti prison or forced to leave the country. This is a fact all we know.
        The question is how should we solve it. In my opinion reconciliation with amnesty is the better solution, Others may have the best solution. For this solution PFDJ should play a major roll to pressure IA to accept the solution, otherwise PFDJ should bring other solution. Eritrean people needs fundamental change, irrespective of from whom it comes.

        Have a nice day.

    • Selam

      Selamat Brhan,

      You are right we have a lot problem to discuss about, but what I belief is; Awate gave the platform and we should shape the theme of discussion by using our right. For example: what you have listed are a good point for discussion.

      Have a nice day.

    • Selam

      Selamat Brhan,

      I agree with your concern.
      Brhan in my opinion the question is not why this and that happen because all Eritreans know that, may be different group give different reason. The question should be why all Eritreans are not fighting for their freedom? Do majority Eritreans think about the GoE like we think? Do the majority of Eritreans believe that they are intimidated and mistreated by the GoE? Why many Eritreans after go through life threatening journey to reach western country support GoE?
      I wish to have some answer about the behavior of Eritrean society, if there is someone who studied or made a research about it recently. From those of you have psychological study back ground or scientific political study.

      Have a nice day

      • Hameed Al-Arabi

        Hi Selam,

        Children are taken to Sawa. They experience a very tough life. Greasy children come from Europe riding beautiful buses. They are welcomed with great honor and eat best foods in front of those who eat very poor meals with some lentils swim in water like a fish and Wadi Akkar bread. The first impression comes to Sawa child is to go to Europe. Coming from Europe is the only way to be honored and welcomed by his teachers at Sawa and those who packaged him to Sawa including his parents. After he reaches Europe certainly he will go back to be honored by his parents, packagers and teachers at Sawa. It seems a systematic way of vacating the country to be handed to Ethiopia.

        Al-Arabi

        • Selam

          Selamat H. Al-Arabi,

          For your information I am one of the group A. to make our conversation better this is my background. I have trained in SAWA as 7th round, I was in BADA, ADAILO, and AFANBO as a teacher of Tegadelti. አብ 1991 ሕማቅ ናብራ ተጋደልቲ አብ ደንካልያ ክብሃል ከሎ አበኡ ኔረ. I experienced all what you said, what I haven’t experienced is the journey through Sahara and Mediterranean sea.
          My Answer to your question: I did not prefer to make my parents and my packagers happy. I never go back to my country since I left.
          I remember what my friend said me when I get residence permit in the country where I am living now. ቀደም አብ ጊዜ ገድሊ ወዶ ገባ ዝብሃል ኔሩ ሕጂ የለን ድዮ ከምኦ ጌርካ ስድራኻ ዘይትረኢ ኢሉኒ ኔሩ. I have rejected that and I have also rejected ናይ ጣዕሳ ወርቀት.
          I do not mean they should do like me very person has different opinion, understanding and way of thinking. May be they miss their family very much or may be they are missed by their parents very much specially by the mothers and decided to see them or as you said they want to experience to be welcomed by their packager and parents. Once they did one time they will have all experiences; to live in west with freedom, to live in Eritrea without freedom, sawa, dangerous journey to west and to welcome by their parents and their previous oppressor. Now they are in better situation and with better information to be in which side of Eritrea. I am not demanding to be active contributor for the struggle to justice but at least not supporting the oppressor.
          You answered my question by asking me another question. I will try to extend my question to the next level or formulate in other forms.
          Many Eritreans that they came in the west or crossed Eritrean border in the last 20 years are in group A. From those groups some of them are a strong GoE supporter. If they experience the same thing what makes them to be strong supporters, apart from that they are paid or get direct benefit by doing so.

          Have a nice day

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Hi Selam,

            I think I was not clear enough to be understood well. Let me attempt it in this way and give you almost similar two sets. I am not speaking about matured Selam, but Selam the child of 15 or 16 years. If Selam as Sawa child requested to choose, which one will you choose?

            A- (ቅጫ ወዲዓከር / እንጀራ ወዲዓከር / ሓምባሲ ዓደስ)

            B- (ብስኮት / ከክ / ካራመላ)

            Al-Arabi

          • Selam

            Selamat Hameed Al-Arabi,

            For your question I will choose B not only at age of 15 even now, but I am not talking about the children. I am talking about the mature one that they are doing unacceptable thing to the human nature.

            Have a nice day

          • Nitricc

            Hi Selam; The trend will change very shortly and people will flee to Africa. you seem very happy with your permit to slavery and congratulations. once the young generation gets control of Africa; Africa is the next big thing! take that to the bank. My advice to Africans in general and Eritreans and Ethiopians in particular is teach your kids their African language.

          • Selam

            Selamat Nitricc,

            When the trend come we will do. We already become expert on migrating. I hope you will be the first to flee to Africa. I happy to live in the west like you. Are you jealous because I come to your place? Do not worry I will go back to my country in the near future when it rules by rule of law. I am sure I will not stay in the land of my host during my difficult time like you, if there is no obstacle that hold me back not to do so.
            As I understand you; you have no problem with GoE. I am wondering why you are staying in the west a single day, while the GoE is in short of youths like you.
            have a nice day.

  • FishMilk

    Hi All. Eritrean held bank accounts in Switzerland have all now been unfrozen.

  • FishMilk

    Hi All. There is a reported increase in the number of security incidents involving Tigray owned/operated vehicles entering/leaving Tigray near the Kobo-Rare area. Additionally, security incidents involving Tigray owned/operated vehicles have started to occur on the Wach’o-Chifra road, especially in area south of K’ilawa. Again, the TPLF organised anti-PMAA demonstrations which continue to occur across Tigray region, as well as the inflammatory comments of Debretsion, are provoking anger against not only the TPLF but also Tigrayans in general. The TPLF must stop its irresponsible behavior and give up the scum-bag criminals that it is harboring! Soon, the only way for people from Tigray to travel to Addis Ababa may be by ET.

    • Hameed Al-Arabi

      Hi FishMilk,

      Any break of CIVIL-WAR among Ethiopian ethnic groups will send Isaias directly to Hague, ICC. It appears, he is heading to sit behind IRON BARS like a baboon.

      Al-Arabi

      • Nitricc

        Al arabi; the copy one! I rather be a baboon rather than think as one. How exactly is PIA responsible for what it goes in Ethiopia? I don’t expect anything worthy from a person who names Al Arabi but you are too stupid even to simply to comment.geeeeezzzzz! what is wrong with you people?

        • Hameed Al-Arabi

          Hi Nitricc,

          Most probably the Baboon with its baby monkeys will visit Hague. Imagine, how will they look like behind the iron bars in front of the world? The baby monkeys voices will desperately be like: wiq wiq weyane wiq weyane and the sounds that will be heard from the baboon will be like: wotamat wohayo woyane, wonbedye, Abo nesikhum Tezarebu.

          It seems Nitricc was brought up in shanty areas where values are below zero. I don’t expect civilized behavior and constructive positive ideas from guys of such kind of backgrounds. He is a WAREHOUSE OF MALICIOUSNESS.

          Al-Arabi

          • Hameed Al-Arabi

            Dear Moderator,

            I think, it is better to say don’t reply when you are insulted instead of tone down. I think, I don’t suffer lack of viewpoints to refute.

            Al-Arabi

    • Hameed Al-Arabi

      Hi FishMilk,

      I watch with heed that you and your colleagues are doing a good job, just ignite it very well; a fire that will never be put off. I like your jogging inside Ethiopia too much. The Capo is also guiding you very well, and he knows from were to eat and become satisfied. I know, when he is full stomach, will walk like a baboon.

      Al-Arabi

    • Selam

      Selamat FishMilk.

      Thanks for the information. Is that important for us the demonstration in Tigray and what the Tigrayians said about their country. Why should we interfere about their matter, when we have enough problem.
      Please let’s stay within our own court and do our job.Our home work need much attention.

      Have a nice day.

  • Tigrayans, let them be listened or they will be listened to…..

  • FishMilk

    Hi All. Interesting to note that Debretsion Gebremicheal during this past weekend’s anti-Government rallies in Tigray region, openly asserted that PM Abiy cannot be labelled as a reformist because he was presiding over chaos. Such inflammatory statements and anti-Government rallies are creating further unnecessary antagonism against not only the TPLF, but also Tigrayans in general that are participating in anti-Government rallies. and certainly making life increasingly difficult for Tigrayans living in other regions of Ethiopia. Debretsion should be arrested for inciting violence against the State. Enough is enough!

    • Brhan

      Hi FishMilk,
      If you are Ethiopian you have right to say the above if not, meaning that if you are Eritrean do not you think that this interfering in anohter country issue?

      • FishMilk

        Hi Brhan. Absolutely not in so long as TPLF continues to illegally occupy Eritrean land and to attack PMAA for which has potential security repercussions on Eritrea.

        • Brhan

          Hi FishMilk( there is no milk from fish..kidding)

          You said the above as a Fishmilk or as an echo to the regime in Eritrea. Because the regime hardly asked that officialy ( the opposition are asking) since the new MEDEMER era either at a national or regional or international level..correct if I am wrong with a PROOF

          • Haile S.

            Selam Brhan & FishMilk,

            Actually, there is a fish that produces milk (sort of) for its young called the Blue-discus, a beautiful fish BTW. The parents produce a mucoid substance that coats their body, upon which the hatched young feeds.
            Although our FishMilk is unique without pair, there is Milkfish with this name, an edible fish highly consumed in southeast Asia.

    • Mitiku Melesse

      Hei Fish.
      Debrtsion is enjoying a his right to a peaceful demonstration. It is not like Tplf time butchering demonstrates against the government. This is a true test of democray even Tplf has a right to demonstrate.

      • FishMilk

        Hi Mitiku Melesse. I agree with your point. Just a bit complicated in that Debretsion is willingly harboring those with arrest warrants. But again, your point is well taken.

        • Mitiku Melesse

          Hei, Fish.
          Bishop Debertsion reduced himself to a common coordinator of demonstrations rather than focusing on leading his ‘spiritual’ comrades. One of his slogans i fall in love is ‘respect the constitution’.

    • Selam

      Selamat FishMilk,

      With due respect again don’t we (Eritreans) have our problem. Whether to arrest or send to hell Debretsion is Ethiopian people business not our. Why should we worry about them rather than ours. Is that a deliberate diversion of attention from our problem or do you really concern more abut Tigray people rather than Eritrean.

      Have a nice day.

  • FishMilk

    Hi All. ‘TPLF implicated in violence in the name of “Kimant Identity” group’
    ‘Ethiopia lost $US 36 billion in illicit financial flows in the last 27 years’

    • Mitiku Melesse

      Hei Fish.
      The tplfs moved to Mogadishu in light speed to install alshababa president. That 36 billion dollars must be invested to put the three thousands Axumite kingdom back to its epicenter. Tigray has crowned the new King by the name King Debretsion blessed by the Tplf bishop Mathiwos. So the three thousands history of kingship has been made to continue with a bit hiccup and confusions of 44 years. We were great we shall be great.

  • Blink

    Dear Ayneta and Girmay
    You are right, I should apologize to him . There is no hate to anything what I said about weyane leadership is facts that can be supported by evidence. So don’t take it as if I am just making against them . I never said Dergi was በላዕቲ ክልተ ጻሕሊ or deceitful because Mengistu was very clear about his actions. Remember also the guy in your defense has been using filthy words against and he never apologized , so why aren’t you fair? Can I have the right to suspect you ?

    Girmay Tigray is 4000 years old as per General teklebrhan so don’t make it 3000. Second I am saying TPLF not the people of Tigray which is big difference.

  • Abraham H.

    Dear George, first, I really don’t need the approval of George to tell me who I’m. “TPLF has caused untold sufferings to Eritreans…”; I would say what your PFDJ has done to the Eritrean people in terms of damage, there is no parallels in their history and it will take genrations to redress. It is the same game that DIA-slaves like you keep peddling, to draw away attension form the crimes of DIA and his apparatus on the Eritrean people, putting the blame on others for your utter failures to bring any change to the better. To be frank with you, I would rather be associated with the Weyanes than with the good for nothing DIA-PFDJ. The Weyanes have trasformed Ethiopia economically, politically, and socially to such a degree that some PFDJ diehards were shocked to witness the transformation. That was a rude awakening for them and many other Eritreans who finally could cross the border towards Ethiopia. On the other hand, you have the totally useless and inept DIA, who destroyed what was already there in Eritrea let alone bring new development. BTW, what happened to you; weren’t you crying about the border demarcation, when you witnessed DIA be cheered in Ethiopia? And now one of the PFDJ dogs-Elias Amare is telling you on your face to forget about the border as it has been demarcated already. What shameless souls!

    • George

      Dear Abraham

      Congratulations! I’m glad you’re able to come out of your closet. I’ll be the first to congratulate you on your first coming out tplf Cadre. I usually don’t drink but I’m going to go ahead and drink on your behalf. again I like to salute you for your bravery 🙂 you see, it wasn’t hard. I knew sooner or later the Woyane that you are will be exposed. no. You are exposed blessed discussed the real issue here.

      1. Eritrea wants peace. Your tplf talks on both side of their mouth.

      2. If you want to proof, which I doubt you do because you are one tplf listen to your leaders one minute to talk peace another the very next minute they talk War.

      3. Yes, we want border demarcated. But with a trusted partner. One we can do “business with”

      4. Woyane economic miracle. It is not. Sir by any measure considering the amount of money that went through their hand it is a complete disaster. Every inch of the road was built by Chinese. Those infrastructures will have to be paid back. With interest. You have a population time bomb. Land degradation. Ethnic conflict. Yes some people may be excited about Condominiums that is no progress buddy. TPLF legacy misery and disaster. Listen to the German economy minister. “Meles pop the wrong understanding of the economy”

      I believe was you coming out and shaking off your pretentious. Our future debate would be more productive. You see it wasn’t that hard.

  • Blink

    Dear Girmay
    Instead of spewing your lies here you can actually help your deceitful cadre by advising them to face the reality, so my question is , Why don’t help your Tigrians to carry a proper Sudanis President picture with the correct Sudanese flag . ናይ ወያነ ሽርሕን ጉርሕን ሎሚ ዝመጸ ኣይኮነን ናይ ቀደምኩም እዩ . ኣንቱም ስረቕቲ ብምጥራር ዝሐመመ ኣእምረኹም ስብ ንብረቱ ክእክብ ከሎ እዩ ዓጽ ዓጽ ዝብለኩም .

  • Blink

    Dear Readers
    Are you guys reading the forum especially from a known weyane defenders, seriously, I mean seriously what’s wrong with these people? The retarded know it all guy is giving advice to weyane about one tweet by a PFDJ cadre . This retarded is calling weyane to note UN and show the words of bad tone of ISSIAS cadre .

    The guy can say everything just as the debreseytan is doing and still be counted as mr Dr. made in Mekele , The Sunday protest was arranged by weyane cadre by nocking on every poor Tigrians door and it was all about pls save us we come from addis with criminals with us .

    Weyane security apparatuses killed over 20,000 young Ethiopians in past 14 years leaving countless children without fathers and mothers . The one reason addis has so many children begging on every street is the result of weyane killers .

    • Mitiku Melesse

      Dear Blink.
      Tplf has hundred and one paid cyber warriors. A former cadre had said that Tplf used to have 50 paid tplf tugs to write propaganda in addition to the formal propaganda of the so called federal media monitor. These ones ever write to opposition news papers and pages pretending any common citizen. Think of the poorest of the poor getting paranoid not to loose what they looted. It is not easy to be Tplf.

    • Girmay

      Hi dear Blink and George, it is very interesting to read spam like messages. All ways boring and predictable. You see if you are PIA followers the safest and easy to do is hide from reasoning.
      George and Blink day and night externalize the incompetence of their leader and their intellectuals. George and Blink never dare to ask questions such as where is PIA taking us this time?
      PIA , George and blink are getting high on their dream to subjugate Tigray. But you must understand that Tigray has the stamina of 3000 years. Tigray doesn’t want problems with Eritreans but PIA and his puppies can try. We already have figured out an alliance to neutralize his oil kings. PIA and his intellectuals are always in the buisness of understimating and misculaculating.
      You see PIA is playing with fire. He is addicted to misculation. George and Blink are addicted to be blind followers.
      When will Eritrea be ruled by reason?
      George in regards to Tigreans using South Sudan flag and Bashir picture, they just want to see if George knows his flags without googling .lol
      George in regards to Tigreans copying Eritrean singers, I hope Eritrea can produce singers like Abraham Afeworki and I will be proud of Tigreans singers if they copy them. George, what do you have to say of Helen Meles copying Beyonce style dancing and the other guy copying Micheal Jackson clothing. I jope Tigrean singers dont copy them.
      I am not worried about Tigreans copy Eritrean singers I am more worried about both Tigrean and Eritrean singers dressing in gettho style clothing and earing and mixing Tigringa and rap. I hope nobody buys their CD.
      George and Blink, your PIA is telling you Tigray is isolated and nobody will support her. I will not spill the beans but here is the hint think of the geopolitics of the middle East, and while PIA and Abie were hugging Tplf pulled one of its deadliest structure in Tigray. If it was revealed Abie and PIA would be crying now. We should see the next stage. Blink and George keep singing funny and predictable songs.

      • Mitiku Melesse

        Hei Girmay,
        I am afraid by your message. Though your main goal is to scare Blink but you may terrify the Eritrean government by your facts. Long live King Debretsion, hurrah hurrah!

      • Blink

        Dear Girmay
        How much do you get paid from this all defense to weyane?

  • Paulos

    Selam My Good People,

    One of Isaias’ cadre, Amare put out the following in his tweeter:

    “It is not our concern if the (deliberately) obtuse can not grasp the “game” in #Gameover4TPLF & keep shouting “border”, “border”…The #Eritrea-Ethiopia border has long been delimited and demarcated as per the Algiers and EEBC. Our peace & sovereignty is secure. What remains is the total destruction of the #TPLF cancer, which is inevitable. That’s the Game.”

    We don’t need another war. We need peace. Through civil discourse, anything and everything can be solved.

    • David Samson

      Selam Paul,

      Wait until IA puts his foot soldiers on the wrong foot again. Poor souls!

      Neither IA nor his foot soldiers have the capability to destroy anyone, let
      alone TPLF. TPLF fate is decided by the politics within the Ethio dynamics.

      I personally would not read too much on it.

      • Paulos

        Selam David,

        First of, the guy can not put out a terse statement which is otherwise inflammatory without the directives of Isaias or Yemane. As such, it is a clear policy Isaias is harbouring towards Tigrai-TPLF. I think, the Tigrai state has to notify the UN about the clear tone of aggression. Second, if Abiy opts to keep silent when it’s party member is under a real threat, his silence may mean a lot of things including approval. This is a high-tech ዘመነ መሳፍንት!

        • David Samson

          Selam Paul,

          My reading is slightly different to yours. The change in Ethiopia came about because of Ethiopia’s political dynamics; IA had no say on it. By the same token, any future change will be shaped by the main players within Ethio politics. IA is a spoiler and wants to be seen as the main actor, but deep down his knows that he was about to die like a rotten egg in AdiHalo. This phony chap happens to be lucky to survive for over 50-years— call it fate or fluke.

          • Abraham H.

            Selam David S., don’t you think that PM Abiy and co. are opening the door wide for the Eritrean dictator to meddle in the internal affairs of Ethiopia? There is no doubt that the prime minister, his Oromo and Amara cohorts do feel weaker in terms of real military power relative to the TPLF that they are trying to rally the Eritrean dictator on their side; something DIA is more than willing to oblige?

          • Safaee Michael Binieam

            Selam Abraham I doubt they have the miltary strength to challenge the federal army. The government is aware of how deeply entrenched the party is in tigray and the strong patrotic sentiments of Tigrayans to try to forcibly create puppet leaders. So its trying to weaken them through incirclement (in which IA comes in) and through politically motivated charges of corruption and human rights abuse to bring down their influence.

            Backed against the wall Tigray is left with its last weapon, article 39. And my hunch is the goverment will try to find some reason to amend it very soon. I believe this one of the reasons for the ‘respect the constitution’ rally.

          • Abraham H.

            Selam Sefaee M., I don’t think the government would dare to try amending the Article 39, as it is central in the right of the nations and nationalities of Ethiopia to have the right to cecede if they so choose. It is a kind of a control mechanism within the federal arrangement so that no ethnic comes that takes the rights and autonomy of other peoples to govern themselves as they please. But I don’t think Tigray would invoke the article now as they could benefit far more in united Ethiopia than a separate nation even with the current problems which are only temporary, hopefully.

          • Paulos

            Selam Safaee,

            I agree. If the center of gravity can not hold, Tigreans do not have any other choice except make use of the Article 39 before it is knocked out of the Constitution.

            The argument that TPLF doesn’t represent the Tigrean people is rendered moot where it’s popularity among the Tigreans has never been any stronger. The larger issue then is the question: What works for Ethiopia? Monarchy was tried, it didn’t work. Military government was tried and it didn’t work. And finally, Electoral Democracy in tandem with Developmental State and Ethnic based Federalism was tried and it is not working. If they can not live in harmony with each other under a common vision, partying ways could be the only option.

            Thing is though, if Axumite civilization or kingdom is in Tigrai and the epicenter that gave Africa tremendous pride is in Tigrai as in the “Battle of Adwa”, what else will be left for Ethiopia if Tigrai seceded?

          • Amde

            Selam Paulos,

            Do you really think Article 39 is a realistic alternative? It would be a Somaliland expect slightly bigger than Swaziland. Somaliland had a lot more going for it and look where it is.

            For it to be viable, it would have to
            – join with Eritrea, destroying Eritrea’s cultural and religious balance and effectively creating an Agazian state which would trigger a new generation of instability in Eritrea;
            – and/or tear or take along some or all of the Afar region;
            – or joiin with Sudan – a sharia state while carrying a devout christian population

            None of these promise peace or prosperity for the region in the coming years. And more importantly, it would just be a small useless state that others find useful as a regional irritant and a pawn. It promises nothing but misery for Tigrayans.

            This is just a geriatric temper tantrum.

            Amde

          • Blink

            Dear Amde
            I have a comment made by you long time ago and never fade away , in that comment you said “ you talked one old guy and this man told you that shewa and Eritrean highlanders are going to gang up to rule in both countries , the bad thing about that comment was you said you didn’t advance the discussion with the old man” , this was before even the protesters in Oromo or Amhara region started . Now as the Amhara are going all full gas plus the Oromo. I wonder if you by chance can dig deep and share where was this conversation?

            By the way Tigray without Ethiopia means just more refugees going to Gonder and Asmara as Afar regional administrations are already on the Medemer side . Second there is no a single chance they can take a single piece of land from Eritrea.

          • Amde

            Selam Blink,

            The “Shewa enna Hamassien melisew yigeTmalu” conversation was with an old Hailesellasie era minister, who has since passed away. So I can’t say that conversations can be advanced any more haha.. It was in the context of the post Badme era where TPLF and PFDJ had become sworn enemies. By then TPLF had been going full bore for a decade or so – destroying whatever it saw as any remnants of Shewan power and influence. So on the face of it I could see how that could be feasible, but i was skeptical since we were no longer talking about northern Ethiopian power struggles but an issue between sovereign states. Now – perhaps one can think of it as a framework for regional politics.

            Was it Semere T who articulated a position that Eritrean stability is inversely related to how close the center of Ethiopian political power is to the Eritrean border? That articulation explains Isayas’ love affair with Abiy, and Mahmuday’s recently re-ignited love for Isayas. (Even if Isayas is doing it primarily to fulfill his selfish reasons). If that is true, Abay Tsehay’s embarrassing begging performance and the whole Article 39 song and dance show the TPLF old-timers have learned nothing even after 27 years at the helm of Ethiopia. Isayyas and PFDJ intend to make Tigray into a weakened buffer zone between Asmara and Addis Ababa. An “independent state” will be an even more convenient buffer zone that can be easily sabotaged and controlled. But TPLF old timers apparently still believe the “blood is thicker …” argument will eventually hold sway. That practically makes them Agazianists.

            That old man was a Tigrayan himslef and detested the ethnic federation model, and insisted we would have been better off with the previous provinces and build on that. Whether the Amara and Oromo can be equated to “Shewa” – I don’t know. There is still a lot that has to settle. But I am a firm believer that there are recurring historical demographic and geographic logic for a strong Ethiopian state centered in the densely populated highlands and those periodically re-assert themselves. This new iteration may not be called Shewa but Abiy’s vision is pretty clearly both new and also very much classic.

            Amde

          • Blink

            Dear Amde
            I thank you sir for many things , what would many of us do if you were with the weyane defenders . Again thanks for the splendid replay.

            Yes it was Semere Tesfai who said like you put it.Again thanks , happy new year 2019 in advance Incase you didn’t show up like these days .

          • Paulos

            Hey Capo Amde,

            Great to see you back. I actually thought Abiy gave you some sort of Portfolio to oversee. You should see me laughing at “geriatric temper tantrum.” We miss you bro.

            I say, they will be better off having it on their own as opposed to living in a perpetual tension with the major ethnic groups. Let them have it if they wish to be left alone and only time will tell if they are going to be a pawn with no use what so ever or if they are going to make it big. Remember, Dergue and others underestimated them before…

          • Amde

            Selam Paulos,

            I was extremely busy but did occasionally look in.

            That portfolio idea… hmmm… may not be too bad. But I can assure you I am still very much an American corporate cog. So far I am very thrilled with Abiy and where we are. Just comparing the news headlines and mood in the country from a year ago is just unbelievable.

            I feel like I have written about how I could see all this coming. The ethnic federation model is really bad for Tigray and any other smaller groups. It rewards the larger ones over time with an accummulation of power and wealth. It doesn’t help that TPLF at core cared more about the idea of a Tigray nation that is halfway out of the federation, than in creating an Ethiopia that was hospitable to Tigrayans in all corners of the country. Unfortunately we now have to deal with a previously non-existent Amara Nationalism and a very much energized Oromo Nationalism for at least the next generation. The irony is that the federation is working now closer to the way it is designed – and the OroMara political idea was exactly what the system as designed could be predicted to create and here we are..

            Was it Napleaon who said a General always fights like the last time he won a victory? My feeling is the old timers are not only completely clueless, but they feel they know what is going on and are confidently making suicidal decisions. As a society, we are not so good at self-reflection, but they must know almost every thing that has happened and is happening is a result of policies they put in place.

            They got Tigray and Tigrayans into a ditch – what is there to suggest they have the smarts or judgement to make any better or rational decisions going forward? This Article 39 idea is just vanity to have written on their tombstone while the next generation of Tigrayans have to deal with its consequences.

            Amde

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam amde
            Decolonize ethiopia from one ethnic group and rebuild it again from scratch was and still is the ideology of eprdf, no? I think now they finished decolonization and start building the new ethiopia, no?

          • Amde

            Teodros,

            Well that is what we were told – free Ethiopia from Amara National Oppression.

            Have you heard of the 80 – 20 rule?

            I have reluctantly come to the conclusion that 80% of what TPLF does and has done can be explained by “they hate the Amara”.

            Everything else was just fancy words for a power grab.

            Please note that all that has really happened is that OPDO has replaced TPLF at the top spot. If EPRDF was an equal coalition, the administration breakdowns we see throughout the land would not happen since the component parties would run their region. But since these structures were built and run by the TPLF throughout, now there is paralysis at the lower levels until it is clear who the new boss is and what the new rules are.

            Amde

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam amde
            There is no question tplf policy is driven by hate to amara than the wellbeing of tigrai. But do u believe the rhetoric that say tplf was only rulers of the previous gov? If so what happen now, i mean how did they lost it? What about the economy impact of it?
            From what i understand, ever misery in ethiopia that been going on for the last 27 years is the result of eprdf ideology that say decolonization from amara and build the new ethiopia. That is the main reason for ethnic to ethnic conflicts every where in ethiopia and they r behind it, even now they r behind most of the conflict. And that is part of thier building the new ethiopia from scratch.
            I know it sounds crazy but that is how i see it.

          • Amde

            Selam Tedros,

            Well, every system needs collaborators. So the system was more EPRDF with TPLF at the top. Those at the bottom get rewarded with how well they met the ambitions of whoever was on top. You remember Lemma talking to investors who have to make payments to “Godfathers” and “Networks”. That was how the system functioned. In a way it is not unique to Ethiopia – when you have officials who don’t have to fear the voters or the law, they will do whatever they want. And their seniors allow them because they are needed to protect the interests of the networks.

            Such a system does not need ethnicity per se..- a party or coalition crying “Ethiopia! Ethiopia!!” could be just as corrupt.

            The ethnicity part just allowed many such official/criminals to hide behind their “nation/nationality”.

            But the ethnicity part absolutely is responsible for the millions of internal dislocations.

            On the local disturbances being agitated by EPRDF cadres – I think that is a lot to that but competition for farmland also seems be a factor. I have said before that Abiy’s promise of democratization and reduction of ethnicity as a focus of political organization and competition is likely to get it’s hardest opposition from the teens of thousands of EPRDF functionaries who are scared for their future and also about the threat of possible accountability they face. It is a miracle things are going as well as they are to be honest, but still by most reports the lower level of governments (run by these functionaries) are either resistant to change or have stopped. What Abiy and Lemma can promise them is an open question, but there must be carrots and sticks. It is likely to be worse by the time election rolls around.

            It is crazy when I heard that the Ethiopian Median age is 18. That means 50mln children in Ethiopia and even Meles Zenawi is an irrelevance to them let alone Menelik. I think Abiy thoroughly gets the challenge.

            Amde

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam amde
            My point is
            1, decolonie ethiopia ethnics from amara(ethnic policy) came from tplf but it’s implementation was done by all eprdf members party spacially by andm,
            2, i personally know when tplf splitted in to two the andm groups(bereket, addisu and tefera) was the one giving order for “seye” group to be arrested.
            3, look at deber brehine, bahir dar, dessie and even debertabore, it don’t look like andm was just a collaborators.
            4,the medias, eprdf supporters medias or pretending opposition medias have one thing in common
            When it comes to amara they makes it look like ugly, downgrade it ,skip it or show only the bad side and for other ethnics they do the opposite, they did this is not because of thier age is 18 but a deliberate policy to changing the mindset .
            5, in my opinion what they did was , after protest all over the country, they decided to shorten the decolonization and build process out side of the fixed plan and move on to the next level .

          • Kaddis

            Selam Gash Amde ( trust me I am way younger 🙂 )

            Great to hear from you and very much value your take.

            Maybe one or two points which needs emphasis regarding the disturbances: in addition to inherent resource and administrative tensions, I would not rule out the federal state going into regions forcing loyalty as a means of consolidating power using the activists network and experience. Consolidating power is not a bad thing by itself. OPDO may have (should have) credible intelligence that smaller regions are loyal to TPLF than the federal state which needs to be fixed. The question remains what would they do with the new consolidated power? And the means ( pretty violent in the Southern region, Somali & Benshangul ) is worrisome.

            If the new power is committed for an acceptable election as you mentioned; would be the most ideal. Anything less; specially undermining the working constitution to justify a presidential system etc…is scary.

            Cheers,

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Kaddis,

            I always enjoy on what you have to say on the politics of Ethiopia – Very rational and matured approach to a complex of diversity politics. Your comment makes me to say few words on your last sentences. They are very crucial to the stability and fundamentals of democracy of you nation,

            Talking about the power of the center whether it should be “presidential” or “premiership” should be seen from the “optics of power” on the “center” and on the “periphery”. Or whether the power should be “centralized” or “decentralized.” Keep in mind that by nature the presidential power is more broader and centralized than the power of premiership. If Ethiopia is to survive from the current crises, there is no alternative than the current system that gives the autonomy to the periphery however they are shaped and formulated in to the “states structure”. If certain powers of the center is not devolved to the periphery or the power is monopolized at the center, it only breeds dictatorship. Ethiopia does not need change of a “system” rather Ethiopia needs, a proactive unifying decisive leader who doesn’t only try to manage crises from his office, but also show up in the center of the crises to hear the grievance first hand and give them hope on addressing the issue.

          • Amde

            Selam Kaddis,

            Well, I would love to see an elected Presidential system. The current one leaves us at the mercy of a gaggle of extremist parties which specialize in gaming out how to win a small locale and then just focus on parochial interests.

            As you can imagine, I don’t think the current constitution is “working” as you state. We are the leading producer of internally displaced people in the world. The nation’s capital cannot expand to accommodate healthy growth. I am sure you are a TPLF affiliated civil servant living in Addis, so I don’t have to tell you that driving outside of Addis is a risky proposition with an ethnicity identifying ID card.

            The “violence” in the regions is simply the turf battle between the old EPRDF boss and the new one. This thing called EPRDF (the one that has a “council” and “head office” and “executive committee” and regular “conferences”) is so dysfunctional that its components had to use outside agitation and street violence to overthrow the old boss. And now we have the old boss trying to maintain privilege by fighting the Amara to the last drop of Qemanti blood, and the Oromo to the last drop of Benishanguli blood.

            And yet miraculously, EPRDF parliamentarians vote 100% in Parliament. The point of a Parliament is to take differences into a debate forum and resolve it that way. According to EPRDF though.. Parliament is just for show, and politics is still done via bullets and torturers.

            What part of this system seems like it is “Working” to you?

            Say it after me Kaddis.. President Abiy Ahmed Qedamawi.. We will call him President Abiy Ahmed Dagmawi in his second term.

            Amde

          • David Samson

            Selam Amde,

            Leaving out the magic big ‘IF’ has left this statement out of sync. I am sure you were not mean be that Kaddis is a TPLFfiat

            “I am sure you are a TPLF affiliated civil servant living in Addis, so
            I don’t have to tell you that driving outside of Addis is a risky
            proposition with an ethnicity identifying ID card.”

          • Paulos

            Amde,

            Fair points. What do you think is the best way forward for the nation?

          • Amde

            Hi Paulos,

            If I were TPLF. I would be on the medemer wagon very loudly and very publicly. It is tricky since change means they are the ones getting changed out – but still they need to realistically think it through.

            The biggest long term issue from my point of view is the cementing of Oromo and Amara nationalisms as the primary drivers of politics. We have new generations brought up on it as the exclusive means of political organization, and our demographics are such that politics is baked in to the advantage of the two largest ones. There is a reason why Jawar is happy to support the ethnicity principle and Tigray as is, while at the same time congratulating every new demand for a Killil in the south. He is clever enough to know when they fragment they are easy pickings for a single Oromiya

            Instead of arguing about the unconstitutionality of the new “borders” commission, TPLF need to accept the principle that ethnicity is just one criteria for the organization of an administrative adminstrative territory. Long term goal should be more regions closer to the size of Tigray.

            They need to make peace with the Amara. It boggles my mind that Gonder and Tigray are at war in this day and age. The same with the Raya.. if they are smart Tigray may diminish territorially but they should increase the number of neighbors who will at the end of the day be friendly once issues are resolved. They should make a big scene and issue about the whole reconciliation process with the Amara. Ten years from now most of the old men at the helm of TPLF will probably be dead or senile, but this is the worst time bomb they are leaving to the next generation

            They should also support multi-partyism, and actually support the success of national parties within Tigray. Yes that means them losing some need power, buy they need to have other politicians speak for Tigrayan constituencies at the national and other levels.

            You have no idea how destructive it is to witness Abay Tsehay’s slavish throwing himself at the mercy of Isayas but saying nothing about the need to make peace along the Tekezze.

            It really requires a generational shift by the front – even as a symbolic political patricide.

            Amde

          • Paulos

            Thank you Amde.

          • Selam Amde,

            Welcome back.
            Tplf came with hate, arrogance, ignorance and an insatiable greed. They felt invincible and they humiliated others and succeeded to make an enemy out of every ethiopian except the very few, and they believed they could rule forever with too much stick and very little carrot. It is indeed a big truth when it is said that people can forget everything but not how they were made to feel, and tplf was ignorant to this fact.

            Referring to one ethnic group as the ‘golden people’, thus insinuating the rest are made of silver and bronze, and the rhetoric ‘what is axum to a welayta’ as if the whole area was uninhabited except the small enclave of tigray, and no one else participated in this ancient civilization that ruled such a big area of the ancient world, is simply irresponsible to say the least.

            The 1998 invasion by shabia, showed us how vulnerable tplf’s power was. It had to beg the ‘derg army’ as it called it, to come and fight for tigray, and after ethiopians paid the ultimate price in their tens of thousand, it turned around and declared business is going to remain as usual, i.e. no democracy, no human rights, no equality, etc..

            They cry foul, and they talk of unconstitutionality, and tplf’s constitution is not respected, the same constitution that they never respected themselves and used it for territorial expansion, bad governance, kleptocracy, to commit crimes, etc.. Now, they refer to it simply because it is handy to use the constitution when it finds itself between a rock and a hard place. Was it constitutional to kill, incarcerate, torture and embezzle public money? If so, who wants such a constitution except tplf?

            Cornered and hopeless as it is under the weight of its crimes, it chose to fall fighting and do as much harm as it can to ethiopia and the people of tigray. The rest of ethiopians, and much more the people of tigray, will not allow tplf to take them to the abyss.

            Finally, they have no other choice but to compromise and ask for some sort of leniency from the federal government for their criminals. They can do nothing else. Whatever they try to do, it will have a boomerang effect, the final conclusion being its demise. The people of tigray will force tplf to compromise for the sake of peace and their economic well-being, etc. Independence without resource, and at odds with others on all sides, will bring stagnation (political, economic, social), and we may see eritrea under pfdj repeated in tigray under tplf.
            “ከወደቁ በኋላ መንፈራገጥ፣ ለመመላለጥ፣”

          • Ismail AA

            Selam gashe Amde,

            Man, you have been missed for quite a time. I am a bit late looking through the exchanges on the ongoing developments in Ethiopia. So, I would like to cut to cut this to posing a question on an issue that caught my attention duty to its implication to the future: the Oromo and Amhara nationalism at present and future. Here, thus, the question: though the current comity and cooperation can be comprehended in context common enmity to the TPLF, how do think the two would fit in the future political and governance set up? Since you take them as dominant two demographically, who would do you think would take the driving seat? Do you think, demographical again, the Amhara would settle for second place role in the overall affairs of the country? Would they be liberated from the nostalgia of imperial legacy in the form of governance system? Perhaps, a footnote to this: given the demographic element in politics is a variable rather than constant, how would you distribute the other components in the country

          • Paulos

            Selam Kbur Haw Ismail AA,

            Let me veer off track and try to put the current otherwise engaging discussion in a larger context.

            As you well know, Ethno-Nationalism, after seventy years of repose is making a come back particularly in Central Europe as in Hungary including in Poland, Netherlands and Austria to mention but a few. Experts claim that the trigger point to have been the Euro crisis, the 2008 financial crisis and most of all the refugee issue that has thus far engulfed—close to one million refugees in Europe since 2011.

            If there is any philosophical underpinnings to the Ethno-Nationalism, one cannot help it but dig deeper into the nature of the conundrum and finds the crux of the matter in “Identity Politics” instead.

            “Who Am I” is the deep and existential question all of us at some point in our lives face as we try to find a meaningful role and place in the society we live in. As much as we are unique in our own ways and the way we see the world is distinct from the rest of us, the question of identity takes the center stage in our lives. Then, the question becomes, who can provide the answer for us? The society or the state? What if the society we live in doesn’t reflect the values and norms and most importantly doesn’t correspond with the fundamental things we hold dear?

            Consider this: *Gebre is born into a farmer family. He was raised in an environment where his surroundings are limited in scope and change as well. The same farm, the same livestock, and the same people from birth till he graduated into adulthood. His parents select a wife for him and he becomes a farmer like his father with the same norms and values including his understanding about the world in general. In his world, the existential question, “Who Am I” loses any meaning precisely because he was given all the answers to his questions from the society he lives in way before if ever the question crosses his mind.

            But suppose, Gebre leaves his parents farm and moves to a metropolitan city. He finds himself in a strange world among people with different values and norms including ambitions in life as well. When Gebre poses the question to himself, he will be inclined to find people who share his language, values, tradition and collective resentment as well. Before he knew it, the question morphs from “Identity Politics” to “Ethnic Politics.”

            Great societies, Canada for instance, found a way out when they enacted effective public policy with relatively equal income redistribution including diversity and multiculturalism as a bedrock and pride of the society where ethnic politics loses any meaning.

            The choice is rather simple. Ethiopian leaders can capitalize on the upside of the multiethnic nature of the Ethiopian society and find a common vision as in unity in diversity or like other failed states, they can take the nation into the path of ethnic division by attacking one and praising the other.

            *The example was taken from Fukuyama’s book, “Identity Politics.” Of course in it, the author uses “Hans” a German farmer as an example. More over, he goes over and tries to trace the nature of “Identity Politics” in the works of Plato, Rousseau and Hegel among others.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Paulos,

            I heard interview of Jawar yesterday. Now I know why Horizon, Amde and everyone against TPLF point of view.

            I think he seems to explain the situation rather nicely, assuming what he said is all accurate.

            Basically what he said is, since Melles has passed away, the TPLF had lost a leader (individual / collective)and now are in disarray. Since his death, Getachew Asefa has been the defecto leader and he was leading with absolute terror. He tried all he can to quash the uprising by the Oromo youth to no avail, including heinous crime.

            Now he is wanted by the federal government and he is hiding in Tigray. TPLF leaders does not seem / willing to hand him over.

            What he also said is, TPLF leaders are sending mixed signals and confusing the Tigray people and are using them to protect their interests (leaders) investments in Addis. They did nothing for the people of Tigray all the time they were in power (according to him).

            He also said the recent unrest that were happening in Somali region, Afar region, including in Addis are the making of Getachew and his network. He goes further and accuse him of the recent demonstration in Somalia against the president.

            We have been learning the problems the Eritrean opposition have faced under TPLF and specially Getachew / Security portifolio. Specially SGJ have been calling for the Ethiopian leaders to pass the file to the Foreign minister from the security / intelligent office. Which makes all this accusation to the guy credible in my opinion.

            What I am trying to say is, may be the problem is within few leaders of TPLF and if the guy is handed over and brought to court, most of TPLF issue becomes non issue.

            Berhe

          • Paulos

            Selam Berhe,

            Well, I don’t take the guy Johar serious much less to listen to his interview. And to be frank with you, the stuff he said in the interview you mentioned sounds a heap of conspiracy theory to me. Respectfully.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Paulo,

            I only suggested so that you may have different perspective (I certainly didn’t). But I think he knows really what he is talking about at least looking at his / his people interests goes.

            To me this whole notion of “we will go our separate ways” is really mind bogging and they will lead to their people unmeasured suffering.

            Sudan will be at the mercy / support of the Ethiopian central government specially if Nile dam is build. Eritrea will be at the side / mercy of the Central Ethiopian government. There is no love lost with Somalia and TPLF. And if they can’t not build alliance with the people of Afar and Amhara region, I think is really, really difficult position they are putting themselves in. Even if there is a confrontation (using force) they should just use it in defensive mode. Their access to the powers to be is literally shutdown if they are not in power in Addis. No US, Russia, China, Arab, EU including African countries would be willing to sacrifice Ethiopia for the benefit of TPLF leaders.

            Instead, I think, let the majority, Amhara / Oromo fight it out the political aspects and develop Tigray in a unique and important ways within Ethiopia proper. And they can do so by having good relationship with Eritrea, Sudan, Afar and Amhara region immediately and there after. The Tigray people will not need to have or care who is in power in Addis as long as they have relative peace to do what they need to do with what they have.

            This exercise should just be they were thrown out of power using the democratic process they created (part of) and someone body else is in power. now and time to move on.

            Berhe

          • Nitricc

            Hi Berhe; you said ” may be the problem is within few leaders of TPLF and if the guy is handed over and brought to court, most of TPLF issue becomes non issue.”
            No! it will be the greatest problem. If Getachew goes then every one goes down. there is a reason they can’t give him up. He knows about every TPLF crook. Why do you think Deretsion changed his mind. He was ready to give every federally wanted persons but when know what Getcahew Asefa knows; he decided to keep Getachew Asefa and fight to the end. TPLF will never give up Getachew Asefa never!!!

          • Ismail AA

            Selam Dr. Paulos,

            You have with cognizable erudition set an engaging matter in proper socio-political discourse. You have captured the essence and dimension when you dealt with it in the context of conceptually and practically developed societies, namely, representative examples in the societies of Europe. I am talking about intellectual and socio-cultural and concomitant material advancements which post-colonial and imperial societies did not get to experience. So, you are right in relating the issue of social identity and its extension to political and governance dimension in the light of challenges the European Union and its member states are facing. After all Westphalia and post 1648 West European did not mean in core essence streamlining of the question of identities in nation-state systems to resolve endless contradictions over limited resources anchored on land and territorial frontiers.

            Close look in to the current identities problems or challenges as you have mentioned in our region, and regions elsewhere passing through similar social and economic setups under emerging (not yet consummated) nation-state formatitons in its post Westphalia model, draw attention to the problems underpinning the fermenting crises in many EU member states. The developing events in France and other countries indicate relapse, in perhaps advanced social and economic frameworks as compared to the environments we dealing with in our region, to issues of identities though framed in matters of economic and access to resources sovereign rights. Brexit and similar referendum demanding (read: self-determination) movements in other countries like Holland are telling instances in essence.

            Now, focussing the trajectory, which these amateurish thoughts form, to the specifics you have raised in Ethiopian – and by relevant extension Eritrean – situation, it can be argued that they cannot be conceptually framed independent of the political and social historical experiences the nation-state formations have gone through on the bedrock the Westppalia model had provided.

            What the introdction of ethnic identity based federal governance model in Ethiopia tell us is that the cut and past facade of the Westphalia nation-state model on parochial-cum-feudal kingdom of Ethiopia had failed, and released the energy of suppressed identities in the form of political and ethnic resistance movements. The TPLF, OLF and several others were practical reflections of the collapse of i that mperial state. The successor junta regime under the guise of socialist ideological garb could not preserve the Westphalia part of the state.

            If we were to look at the condition in 1991 subsequent to the collapse of that edifice from neutral vantage point, the EPRDF had no space for trying options. It was either to proceed as its predecessors did, and fight on against the unleashed identity assertion movements that meant disintegration of the coalition and the country sliding to chaos and disintegration or opting an accommodative formula, which saw the light as ethnic federal arrangement. How distribution of power and resources within that arrangement had gone being another matter, in my judgement the formula had worked to save Ethiopia from impending implosion at the time.

            The experience of the past decades had demonstrated consummation or maturation of ethnic federation model to a more accommodative nation-state structure under balanced governance framework guided by consented federal constitution and functional state institutions overseeing fair representation and distribution of wealth and rights did not make reasonable progress. That is why it had faced challenges from identities that wanted to assert their positions. The emergence of Dr. Abij and with him the Oromo component in the coalition is an expression of the point I am trying to drive home.

            Now, what should be closely watched is to which direction developments shall move. The first issue is whether much discussed convergence of part of the Oromo and major segment of Amhara elites would be able to re-make history by ending the ethnic identity based experience and reverting to old and failed Westphalia model. But, the most pressing question now is how far will the ephemeral anti-TPLF sentiment based comity of the current Oromo and Amhara with in the ERRDF front sustain. The test is whether Abij and Lemma Megersa will survive within their broader Oromo constituency. Moreover, the non-Oromo and non-Amhara social and cultural components are not getting attention in the debate.

          • Paulos

            Selam Kbur Haw Ismail AA,

            Thank you for the well put and well argued input. Much appreciated.

          • Amde

            Selam Gash Ismael,

            You are always very generous with your welcoming tone and piercing insight. I wish there was a way I could ask you to stop calling me Gashe because you are old enough to be my father I think.

            To your question.

            I don’t think one wins over the other. There are perhaps many on both sides who can’t wait to split off and firm their own country but they all face the same issues:
            – too poor;
            – no appetite in the world for an additional state in the horn;
            – political greed in the sense that once you head a larger entity than just yours, you tend to want to keep it; and (related to this)
            – the world rewards you for the “premium” of heading a large entity (reason why TPLF stayed on for so long).
            So, on balance I see the country staying together irrespective of whoever “wins” whatever it means.

            It is interesting that Jawar is supporting giving Amaras resident in Oromiya to have representation with the Oromiya Parliament. This is one of the demands of the new Amara nationalist parties – this tells me Amara and Oromo nationalists are quite capable of striking mutually beneficial to deals that could sidetrack other smaller communities.

            If you ask me today, I see most of the energy on the Oromo nationalist side. For most of them the only thing left on their agenda is how to make Addis Ababa an Oromo city. Not only is it symbolically important, it also account for about 40 something percent of the country’s economy. I expect it to remain a flash point as long as there is a single political entity called Oromiya.

            Beyond that, there is a much larger diversity within the Oromo so I expect more differentiation among the Oromo as compared to the Amara. But that is long term.

            I think the big unknown is the promise of competitive electoral democracy. Abiy is trying to change the terms of political competition from being around ethnicity. Right now, an ambitious politician gets most bang for his buck by accentuating differences – which according to our constitution are those around ethnicity. In asking parties to merge into three or four national ones, Abiy is trying to create a pathway for ambitious politicians to organize and compete in a way that actually rewards them for integration rather than differentiation. What will be the outcome of that is unknown – I can see for example a national peasant’s party having a huge powerbase but this is such an obvious thing that I am sure it would have been seen all over Africa.

            My feeling is that the next election will see consolidation of Oromo parties both to maximize Oromo gains and also to defend against being labelled sellouts to the nationalist cause. Probably the same for the new Amara parties —their rhetoric against Ethiopianists like me are almost indistinguishable from that of Oromo nationalists.

            Once in Parliament then it is a matter of coalition building. Whatever emerges out if that is crucial. If it is just a coalition of strong Amara and Oromo nationalists, they will have no interest and incentive in bringing more power to the center so the drift away from the center will continue within the parameters of what economic and geopolitical realities allow. If a more diverse coalition is built, they will probably bring in more power to the center just to forestall the OroMara hegemony.

            If however all this nationalist energy does not get channelled through electoral politics we are truly screwed.

            Ask me again in a couple of years. God bless Abiy is all I can say.

            Amde

          • Ismail AA

            Selam dear Amde,

            Thank you for your worthy input despite the severity of time constraint. Many, and I have reason to complain your absence from this forum. As you can see I stopped addressing you Gashe. Actually, am glad that you are younger because your country and people need citizens like you with foresight and articulation. Let us hope things will take course that will unite the peoples of Ethiopia so that they could have peace and respite to develop their economy and political life.

          • Haile S.

            Selam Amde,
            The points you touched upon interested me to comment.
            Since the coming of Michael Sehul and the start of the Zemene Mesafnt and tigray’s rise to certain independence, Tigray leaders have always felt a certain privilege to power (no doubt nostalgic) on Ethiopia that they never had before that, save for the Axumite empire whose geography and history, though centered in Axum, is BTW different from the Tigray governed by a ትግሬ መኮነን of the centuries in between. Since Michael Sehul, various tigray leaders came to power in their region where they tried, and in certain cases succeeded, to conquer land beyond their province for short periods. King Yohannes was the last of them who was able to go further south to Shewa and Gojam, even then without consolidating his power there. In fact, the weakening of Gojam and environs due to his wars contributed to the feeling of force by the Dervish invading the region including Gonder that eventually ended up Yohannes’s life. Following the formation of Eritrea and modern Ethiopia, the Tigray leaders felt lost, stuck between the two. Nostalgic of their lost ‘grandeur’, their ambition was to regain it, which became effective in the form of ethnic federalism in Ethiopia under TPLF, where they attempted to reduce Eritrea to a dysfunctional state as we have seen it in the last 27 years till few months ago. Now, instead of beating the drum, they need to man-up feel fully Ethiopian, no more and no less than any other Ethiopian. For the reason you mentioned, they cannot join Eritrea. Before they came to power, in the 80s, there are indications that they reflected on their possibility of joining Eritrea, but I think this was a categorical NO from EPLF, thus their frustration and curse on their friends of struggle.

          • Paulos

            Selam Hailat,

            I am a bit surprised by your take to say the least. If I read you correctly, you are alluding that the reason the Tigreans took it to the field in the mid 70s was to regain their long lost glory and power that had been snatched by the Amharas? And you went on saying that they designed Ethnic Federalism to divide and rule and in the meantime to weaken Eritrea?

            How about vision as in Enlightenment credo—liberty, freedom, electoral democracy, constitutional rights and economic equity and redistribution that would ultimately lead to progress? To get the society out of abject poverty by investing on human capital as in universal health care and education? To elevate the nation into a middle-income nation in tandem with diplomatic finesse and competent military force? Would you say, all these was a mirage where the real deal was to carry the power baton of long dead Sihul and Yohannes?

            Eritrea is where it is now precisely because Isaias declared war on the Eritrean people.

          • Haile S.

            Selam Paul,

            Our reading may differ on TPLF and it does. You might have cut short on what I said. You reduced the big picture I was trying to give on the ambition that drives leaders to rally people to just a daily programmed plan. I cannot overlook and just attribute their ambition to only their recent successes, especially when I see how big their ambition is both in their influential design regionally in terms of ethnic influence and land claims. Lets not forget that Tigray movement leaders, when they came to visibility in the mid 70s, collaborated with the military junta in Eritrea in the form of ወጣት ዘማች to perhaps some how later turn their coat for the field of independence joining the the nascent movement. Remember the mid 70 was a time where youngsters in eritrea some born from tigryan parents felt the belonging and the obligation to fight for Eritrea and left to fight for their country and that is a great example I and some of my friends didn’t do. It was also a time where groups from tigray came in masses of youth propagandists with their musicians, succeeded in recruiting local cadres based on birth to parents to come to power dominating the ጊዜያዊ ህዝባዊ ጽሕፈት ቤት in Eritrea creating mayhem to play with life and livelihood of young Eritreans. In the process, the motivating factor was the old grandeur, if not as a starting plan, but as a sure rallying factor used and propagated by their leaders.
            Did TPLF leaders had the vision and enlightenment to lead for development? Perhaps, but lets leave the credo (too heavy word for here). Electoral democracy and constitutional rights, let me leave it to Ethiopians to judge by the results they saw. It is not because these are completely absent in Eritrea that I am going to endorse a 100% win by a party as a democratic exercise and more importantly when previously before that when sits where won, imprisoned those who won and protested to later makes them sign letters of culpability to save their life. In the whole 27 years, TPLF was largest distributor of culpability to keep itself on the high ground as a righteous organization. This distribution of culpability was even tried as recently as last year on journalists. Again, it is not because such practices that preserve the lives of innocents and don’t exist in my country that I am going to refrain from expressing my views and say they were wrong. Lets remember that if TPLF from the get go preserved and respected Ethiopia’s say on the Eritrean referendum especially on who should vote and who shouldn’t in Ethiopia, just to take an example, their respect for their country would have been taken as genuine. They did things or let things loose because their interest was in consolidating power and in using Eritreans as an instrument in their ascension to power as evidenced by how they treated them during the war and there after.

          • Paulos

            Selam Hailat,

            Certainly we have different readings on TPLF but of course you own a wealth of information particularly about their early and formative years as well where what you have stated the incidents in the 70s are lost on me, for instance. Thank you and I respect that.

          • Amde

            Selam Haile,

            Thank you for the interesting input. I don’t think I disagree and I believe Article 39 for Tigray made sense only in the context of a friendly Eritrea who would be willing to come along for the implied Agazian ride (I guess the term was Tigray-Tigrigni).

            Fully agree – they need to man up and make the best out of Ethiopia so it is hospitable for both Tigray and Tigrayans.

            Amde

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam paulos
            the axumite kingdom is tigrai kingdom is false, but even if it is true, how is that gonna change the reality of ethiopia after tigrai seceded? How is that the battle of adwa is gonna change the reality and the meaning it? U see why i call u p , ur pathetic understanding of events makes me to call u p.

          • Mitiku Melesse

            Hei Paulos.
            When Tigray secedes we challenge the new Ethiopia with the same questions of yours with a different context that why they are happily celebrating the secession of Tplf’s Tigray for the sake of fulfilling the greedy one Killil first democracy.

            The fact is democracy wont allow us one Killil has special privilege to loot, kill, torture to make sure the three thousand epicenter moved back to Axum or Mekelle. The feudal prince Meles had said what is it Axumite civilization for Ormo.

      • Ismail AA

        Selam David Samon,

        Pretty shrewd obseration. A benign parasite that wants to survive hardly has, or want to have, the capacity to kill its bigger host. There is no person in our region who has benefited politically and militarily from the TPLF more than Eritrea’s despot. Many do not know, especially the young, that Isayas and his henchmen would not have been in positions they had been, and are today, without the critical help they had gotten critical help from the TPLF.

        • Blink

          Dear Mr.Ismael
          With do respect sir , TPLF help was not make or break to EPLF survival. EPLF was good enough to resist any attack even at the cost of one man standing , I am not old and I know this to be the facts . You wanted to blame the dictator do it on other ways because you have millions of crimes committed by his own decisions that even I can name hundreds. TPLF at that stage was a baby walking after his father but with great care of his father . Trying to score twin political goal and unnecessary attack are the reasons every body is stack here . You and many others need to Take the blame for mishandling of the opposition business by feeding the youth with toxic politics in the diaspora . I apologize in advance if you Incase wanted to ran over me but I couldn’t take the sideline you said here.

          Tesftsion the criminal agazian is the product of mismanagement of the opposition leadership and now is the time to correct the past mistakes and that can’t be done by trying to defend weyane or giving credit way over their weight.

          I address this directly because doing it through other people wouldn’t be fair to you .

          • Ismail AA

            Selam Blink,

            Let me break the oath I made to myself that I would never respond to what you post, and had actually also advised other decent friends to do the same. Not because I do not respect you as fellow human being, but due to your style and conduct that have become repulsive aberrations in this forum.

            Now though, I sympathize with the burden you carry – willing acquired or by persuasion – to defend the indefensible. The point, (TPLF and its critical help to Isayas and his organization in 1980-82) that you thought it fits within the range of your duty towards the regime and the despot and decided you had to say something, I think you might be too young to know the details. So, I prefer not to delve in to the intricacies of those details, and expose myself to your anger and diagnose me as “retarded” as simply as you did with Dr. Paulos – an exposition of behavior that turned the stomach of many of us.

  • Selam Girmay,

    If there are criminals walking around either in ethiopia or elsewhere from the times of HSI or the derg, they should be brought to justice, and here is a chance for tplf to ask for them, as long as it could not do so during its rule. I think that some derg officials served prison terms during tplf’s rule, and tplf tried to get at MHM in zimbabwe but failed. Nevertheless, this does not mean that present offenders should be protected or should not be brought before the law.

    Remember, their children cannot be heir to the crimes of their parents.

  • Selam

    Selamat All,

    I have read this from TN ….. Some 90 Member of Parliaments consented to submit an impeachment motion against Farmaajo over allegations of “constitutional breach” that includes extradition of ONLF commander Qalbidhagax, “anti-federalism” and “secret deals” with neighboring countries ….
    Let’s see the secret deals; Formaajo makes a deal with DIA and PMAA both did not make public the content of agreement. Somalians want to exercise their constitutional right. Ethiopians parliament still in old mode just blindly supporting whatever the leader is doing. Eritreans have no constitution but DIA can not do anything without his/PFDJ supporter. Those PFDJist support Whatever DIA doing blindly like Ethiopian Parliament.
    Somalian action may help Eritreans and Ethiopians to learn a lesson.

    Have a nice day.

  • Mitiku Melesse

    Hei All.
    By now most of us have learnt democracy is a commodity money can buy. A poor nation suffer more from scarcity of democracy. A poor nation with blessed natural resource suffer further more than a poor nation. A poor nation with both natural resource and a strategic importance suffer the most. Take Angola and there is no humiliation even small countries like Rwanda and Sri Lanka can take advantage of the wealth of Angola while the people of Angola suffer and are humiliated beyond recognition.

    So when we consider Eritrea at least we must pay respect for the nation not humiliated by Tplf. Who protect Eritrea from Tplf? All who live in Eritrea! Who stopped Tplf starting from Badme to UN in New York.? Who stopped Tplf from marching to Asmara the way it has done to Mogadishu? After 7/11 US democracy is challenged by the US government, a government which can buy the best democracy money can buy.

    What kept the integrity of Eritrea? The kindness of Tplf towards Eritrean, the help of the international community, or the luck of demonstration boycott Eritrea? None. This not critic. This is fact. The critic is there is a limit and area where opposing once own country regime can not be crossed.

    Tplf is wrong from the very beginning. It has made it worse in 1991. US has its own African department and has done its home work with its high professionals how to welcome the new Ethiopia and Eritrea concurred from the now Russia. Eritrea has no need to take the welcome package as it is because it has already it has made its plan. Tplf had found a new plan package at least for its economical independence (you need some income to make an independent country) including the manual by the name Ethiopian New Constitution the bible of Tplf.

    In short if the package says you have to make your girls and women prostitute and you get Tplf takes the package playing we are Tigrians card and late the rest to be prostitutes, and if possible only the amharas. In case the majority Ethiopia says no for this horrible package, then Tplf plays we are Tigrinya card more than the Eritreans Tigrinya. In case Eritrea says no for this package then Tplf plays we are Ethiopians cards more than the Ethiopians themselves. Since Tplf has played these cards since its inception it has lost respect for the essence of Ethiopia and Eritrea. .

    Now Tplf has built a nation called Tigray. The problem is the economy has been built in such a away where the majority of Ethiopian can support it. In fact the majority is against the system where 5 millions Tigrians nation is made dependent on an economy which demand 100 millions Ethiopian to give their consent Tigray to control the economy and the politics. In short if Tplf has made Tigray economy self sufficient then Tplf could declare the independence of Tigray by the time the Tplf regime was forced to leave addis palace. One to show their arrogance how Ethiopia say no for Tplf regime; two to engulf Ethiopia in civil war to punish how it is like when you reject Tplf. Besides it is easy to attack and punish more the ethnic groups which they consider a threat in the future.

    But now Tplf Tigray is caught pants down. Tigray is not made self sufficient. Now for Tigray it is worse than 1991 because if they want their economy to continue they must renounce Tplf. If they choose Tplf they must loose the economy. That is why Tplf wants to play its Tigrinya card. ‘We are one people’ lets save Tigray economy by helping Tplf to come back to Addis palace.

  • Brhan

    Hi George,
    Glad to hear that you like how I write my sentences, our Arab neighbors say Al Kalamu Ma Qala Wa Dala….A saying (sentence) better to be brief but indicative
    Do not comment when you are angry …we won’t have constructive discussions. When you cool down you will able to differentiate facts from fiction. I am here to discuss with you on FACTS: Ethiopia: Refugees and Asylum-seekers as of 30 September 2017 13 October 2017 | Publisher: UN High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) |
    This is not random stuff.

  • Brhan

    Hi George,
    Do you think the enemy of enemy is my friend strategy viable or a strategy that is based on consideration to proximity, mutual culture and history which TPLF and EPLF alliance was its recent past glory?

  • Girmay

    Hello dear George you see narrow thinking is keeping you and people like MS from looking at the big picture.
    Foreign powers have great ambition in the horn of Africa. Lucky them the horn of Africa is lead by incompetent leaders. Therefore, PIA is now encouraged to pursue black on black crime. Once we weaken each other foreign powers will easily colonize all of us.
    George, if you look at the big picture Tplf is as tiny as Taff, the bigger sharks have a grand ambition and you are busy chewing Tplf this and that.
    George and Ms, mark my word Eritrea is in a danger to be colonized because of its strategic position. The foreign enemies will systematically colonize it. But no Ms George are only allowed to think what PIA allows them to think.
    PIA has proven to be incompetent. Brave and brillant leaders tried to fire him but instead he put them to prison.
    You see PIA has nothing to offer Eritrea. PIA followers take one day in your life to think about geopolitics of the region by not thinking about Tplf.
    In conclusion Tplf is only on defensive position, however, big powers behind PIA are out there ready to colonize Eritrea. PIA has no checks and balance. He was reckless 20 years ago and he is reckless today.
    Sadly his intellectuals are an accomplice and their nativity never make them think twice and save Eritrea from the bigger threat. Tigray has no reason to be a threat to Eritrea.
    Now Eritrea’s biggest threat is a blind leader and his intellectuals. George and Ms, wakeup before its too late. If reason has prevailed in Eritrea today PIA would have been asked to resign for all his mismanagement and miscalculation.
    Sadly PIA and his intellectuals are working hard to externalize their incompetence and ignorance. When will PIA and his followers work for the interest of Eritrea?

  • Saleh Johar

    George,
    “Cozy with individuals…” is a boring statement and I will ignore it. I think you can challenge me when you reach the 10% mark as what I have written and talked for two decades. But to go crazy and repeat “Weyane, Weyane” day in and day out is something I leave to those who are fond of repeating it. You will not get that from me.

    Again, I advise some people to tone down the rhetoric and stop stirring the fire that, when ignited will burn the poor people. Those who have made bellicose rhetoric their hobby are surely insulated from the fire. Otherwise, they wouldn’t stick to this cheap and irresponsible hobby. It’s not patriotic to agitate for war; that is called warmongering–and it’s not my hobby.

  • Abraham H.

    Selam Awatista, interesting talk from Abay Tsehaye, about the need for rapproachment between the leaders of TPLF and DIA.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5RetcT_sEw

    • Blink

      Dear Abraham
      I don’t know if they are going to get alone but one thing is sure that Eritreans are waiting for TPLF leaders to apologize for the crimes they committed in order to break Eritreans backbone ( Abay Tsehaye z lemani ) said that . Now he wanted to get along with Issias,what about the Eritrean people? He thinks all the refugees going to camps forget what he did .

      I think it will be extremely good if weyane waited as they stand up to 2020 after election, everything about the weyane sets of Ethiopian laws will be up for negotiations and weyane will be at the lowest level of their power , lower than now and it will be a lonely chair for them as others will be ganging to form a government away from weyane . Abay lemani completely tried to say as nothing happened between Eritreans and His small thieves.

      • Abraham H.

        selam blink, just listen to the clip again, because abay tsehaye is not only speaking about dia, but also about the relationship between eritrean people and tigray people. if pm abiy and his amhara handlers as well as delusional folks like you think that you could break the spirit and determination of the tigray people, just think once more, and read history.

        • Blink

          Dear Abraham
          I wonder why you have been acting like half for so long . No one is in the business of breaking Tigrian sprits because it can’t be and no one is mixing TPLF with the ordinary Tigray people, why you mix the thieves and the poor people? Why don’t you people act on your deceitful behavior for the benefit of the ordinary Tigrians. Why you want to take the Tigray people to war on all directions? I mean wasn’t the past wars enough?

          For the second time sit tight or pls advice ደብረስይጣን to at least know his limits because he is simply agitating people unless there is no voice what so ever his dead TPLF junta can change . Team lema are determined to continue this journey and the Ethiopian people is behind them, so as I said act on your old deceitful behavior.
          Abay ዘ ለማኒ has to know the game for his small tricks will not work at this time.

    • Selam Abraham H.,

      Tplf is running around looking for people who could share the consequences of its crimes. Some are forced, as the people of tigray, and others are perceived as naive or having short memory. The time is for a tigrayan party that represents the people and not its criminals and kleptocrates.

      Nobody should fall for their newly acquired sensitivity for old friendships, because they are in in their weakest moment. Just imagine what will happen if they get strong, the frankenstein monster eritrea will not be able to control. Can tplf change its skin or the leopard its spots?

      If eritrea makes the wrong move, she will stall all the deals she has made with ethiopia, she will be aligning herself with a losing entity that is looking for the sacrifice of the eritrean people to save its skin, eritrea may be forced to accommodate the new emperor that was enthroned in axum recently, etc. Beware of the tiger that tries to come through the rear door. No one should become a lifeboat for the dying tplf.

      We should all hope for a new tigray and a new and truly tigrayan party that stands for peace and cooperation unlike tplf.

      • Abraham H.

        Dear Horizon, I totally disagree with this comment, as the blame for the dysfunctional relatioship between Tigray gov and DIA is not squarely to blame on TPLF. Actually, DIA should bear the biggest responsibility as it was him who was rejecting any olive branch form the TPLF for the last 18 years. He sacrificed the Eritrean people at the altar of his insatiable ego, by claiming no normalization before demarcation; something that he would abandon shamelesly when he realised the emergence of new leaders at the center of Ethiopia. This shows his dishonesty both to the Eritrean people, but also his unwillingness for a peaceful relationship with neighboring Tigray. I don’t think Eritrea has to choose between TPLF’s Tigray or the rest of Ethiopia; we could and should have normal relation with the entire Ethiopia; who governs where is not our business. Plus, I think you ‘ve a wrong impression that the TPLF is a spent force, anyway time will tell.

        • Selam Abraham H.,

          The only olive branch i could understand, as long as tplf accepted and sat at the negotiation table with the party it called the aggressor, and as long as it had signed to abide by the decisions of the hague as final and binding, was to vacate and leave the contested land soon after it received the final decision, and not to lie to the people of ethiopia about the decision, and not to come out with the five points peace plan and the demand for negotiations before demarcation, while it could have negotiated while demarcating at the same time. We all know the result of this action by tplf.

          Time is certainly running against tplf, because the only thing there is for it is a gradual loss of its influence even in tigray as economic problems start to set in, tigray’s access to the center is affected as it already is, and the people of tigray realize that tplf is the apple of discord with other ethiopians and not the people of tigray, and their livelihood is much important to them than a political party that misruled the country in their name.

          What has eritrea to gain from tplf by accepting a friendship that is based on tplf’s interest for its survival, while ignoring the law of the ethiopian federation to which it is supposed to be part? Today, tplf trusts sudan than ethiopia, which means that its main aim is its short term interest, and not true friendship.

        • Blink

          Dear Abraham
          1.Who said Badme was given to Ethiopia?
          Ans. Syum Mesfin of weyane .
          2.Who said the border commission decided wrongly so it needs to amend it ,
          And. Meles (reference Irish news ) ,

          3. who declared war openly in a weyane controlled parliament ?
          Ans.Meles.

          4.who deported 90,000 Eritreans ?
          Ans Meles ,
          5. who started bombing city first ?
          Ans. Meles’s government
          6. Who tricked the west to sanction Eritrea under the pretext of false accusations?
          Ans.Meles ( reference the speech he gave to parliament plus the Wikileaks)
          7. Who delayed the demarcation?
          Ans. Weyane government.
          8. Who said let’s break Eritreans backbone ?
          Meles brother ኣባይ ጽሃየ.

          Everything you said was all lies coocked by Weyane cadres like
          1. Senait Mebrahtu
          2. Daniel Birhane
          3.Alula Solomon
          4. Fitsum and others

          I am wondering if we have some of them here .

    • Selam

      Selamat Abraham. H

      It is right: rapprochement needs if they were enemies to each other and made a crime on to each other. As a nation they fought a bloody war and as a consequence a lot of people dies, displaced and a social fabric to the border region disturbed. The population in both side suffer a lot specially the people living in the boarder region. Most of the leaders from both countries that causes the war still living.
      The rapprochement mainly needed for this people, because they are the cause of all disasters. If they really learn from the past mistake and want to make peace, they should sit together and reconcile and move out from the politics of the country by passing the power to the new generation that has no problem to live together as a neighbor. Otherwise it will be a win lose approach and will not bring a lasting solution.
      Whether we like or not Tigray, one of Ethiopia’s federal state, is our neighbor and we should find a way to live together as neighbor the same to them.

      Have a nice day.

  • Saleh Johar

    Thank you, Mahmoud,
    Title and body are different as any writer should know. Titles should be short and do not necessarily explain everything.
    My Denver speech was to my colleagues and myself. It’s not vile but aimed at reforming and self-reflection. It cannot be equated with vindictive comments to destroy. That is a big DIFFERENCE: intention!

    See Mahmouday, I don’t know where you were in 1998 and what your views were. I was there, very vocal and almost saw what was coming. I warned but the bloodthirsty would not listen. Now (please believe me) I am seeing a repeat of the same 1998 mood and agitation from a few belligerent elements (similar in tone and persuasion) and I do not like it. I hoped some would have wisened up and would have been careful of what they are stirring. Unfortunately, “:zey snkha Hutsa qortmelu” is what I see happening. At the end, the same victims of yesteryears are exposed to threats that would make them victims again. It’s worrisome “lmen yetequn.” And I have to do what I can to warn. My warning was hated then and I am sure it will be hated in the samne corners. So I do not like to say it, this is the right time to say, Allahuma ini beleqt fa-ash-had.”

    • Mahmud Saleh

      Ahlan Saleh
      I was talking about the lead sentence, not the title. But that’s OK. I somewhat agree on the rest. I’m against those who agit6wars that they will never participate in. Regarding my latest articles and comments about the TPLF leaders, they are not different from what I have been saying all along. I target the small clique and not the Tigray people or Ethiopians as a whole. Hayat Adem is my witness.
      Gracias.

      • Saleh Johar

        Ahlan Mahmoud,
        As you know wars are not started between people but between ruling cliques. And the fire that ignites doesn’t differentiate between the people and their rulers. If the bellegrant attitudes between the PFDJ and their nemesis is not changed the result will be the same. That’s how the previous war started. I was targeting the Weyabe is not an excuse because it leads to the same outcome.

        When the cliques fight they mobilize soldiers, militias and common people. It’s not limited to the ruling class. Toning down the rhetoric would be prudent. That’s all.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Abu Salah,

          This statement: “if the belligerent attitude between the PFDJ and their nemesis is not changed the result will be the same” is absolutely true. And add to it, that the belligerents can not live without wars; and as a result the clouds of war are still hanging between the two nemesis. Look the difference in the desire of rapprochement in the two nemesis.

        • Hayat Adem

          Dear HSGJ,
          I am not happy with Mahmuday’s views these days. He is playing so un-positive. The exchanges he has had with us at times here makes him a more reasonable man than what he is doing now. I sometimes feel his emotions got the best of him when he thinks he is getting at the opposition and TPLF. He sheds off his emotions when it comes to the pains and agonies of Eritreans.
          A challenge to Mahmuday:
          If more Eritreans hate PFDJ, and if more Tigreans support TPLF… and you happened to be on the other side of these two realities, doesn’t that make you aligned against the peoples’ choices.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Hayat,

            I was telling I watched Jawar interview with regards to the rally in Mekele which I think was in Mekele.

            It seems to me, what he was saying was, the TPLF leaders are trying hard to protect Getachew Assefa and in the process they are confusing the people of Tigray and leaving them vulrnerable to furure. Specially the thought of leaving the federation and going it their way.

            In your opinion, what do you think the issue is if they handed him over and let him face justice / defend himself in court of law. Why should the Tigray people be exposed to the threat of their existence.

            Sorry I am simplifying to one person…just to get an idea. I want to know, what the federal government is doing, does it have legal merit. Are the courts free and fair from interference?

            Berhe

          • Hayat Adem

            Dear Berhe,
            I haven’t listened to what Jowar had to say. Although his analysis are so superficial mostly and are totally limited to his own reality, he thinks he has it right- so full of himself and such people do repulse me.
            COMING TO YOU QUESTIONS:
            1) Protecting Getachew
            a) I haven’t heard of any official court subpoena from the federal courts. In such absence, there is no way one tells about purposing a mass demo so damning and huge around a publicly unknown issue.
            b) There was nothing in that demonstration hinting on the matter of Getachew Assefa. There was no single slogan or chanting about or of him. So, how come the demonstrators didn’t even say it out clearly if their purpose was that. Or does Jawar think, the people rallied without knowing the purpose?
            c) The person in question is a CC member of TPLF and an executive committee member of EPRDF. So, jailing him for any reason is political first before it becomes legal. These has to be decided at the EPRDF-top level. So, if there is a need to protect him, it will happen there not at public rallies.
            d) Lets say, it is true that the TPLF felt the need to protect GA. I would guess they would it in a different way. I am sure GA would have so much knowledge of every official. My view is if land, and real-estate as well the constructions sectors are the main swamps of corruption and crime, I am sure ODP and ADP are more corrupt. And I can guess, GA knows or holds a damning record of all of them.

            2) On Exposing the People of Tigray to Threats
            Berhe, I would say the people of Tigray remain just that. No body can take the people of Tigray hostage. It will always be a colossal mistake for any force to target the people of Tigray because it supported TPLF.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Hayat,

            Thank you and I agree to what you said and hopefully they should be able to move on and transition.

            On the last point, when I said threat to the people of Tigray, what I mean by is this whole thing about exercising the option for Tigray to go alone.

            I do not see a viable Tigray which will be a source of peace and development. It will be May NAeqeb to overcome such challenges. I can’t see how it can create peace for its people without economic viability / trade with all its immediate neighbours.

            Just think what Eritrea was closed having internal peace / forced within its boarders.

            That’s the kind of threat I am talking about.

            Berhe

          • Hayat Adem

            There is one thing I feel sharing with you. I think Tigreans never consider a cost-benefit balance when they think of Ethiopia. They think they are it, benign! A Tigrean once told me: why? We have been making Ethiopia and we have been being made by Ethiopia. The center of the Tigrean psyche is Ethiopianism. Make no mistake on this and it can be backed by tones of evidence. Tigreans have been defending Ethiopia throughout. The Tigrean element and character in the Ethiopian nationhood is much bigger than any of the Ethiopian elites are ready to acknowledge. I have made some curious looks into this matter. It simply is not a possibility. The matter is just beyond rationalization. Ethiopia goes where Tigray goes. Tigreans consider their Ethioianness as an identity worth of distinguishing them even from their brothers-in-mereb.

          • Nitricc

            Hi Hayat; your disrespect to the people of Ethiopia is unbound when you said ” They go all the way in changing the entire Ethiopia and reshape it from hostile to favorable”
            The truth is last time they able to control Ethiopia was with help of absolute fire power of Shabia. This time around all you have is toothless Abay tsahye and criminal getchaw Aseffa. Trust me, your TPLF is dead the question is are they going to take the people of Tigray with them? Repeat after me; TPLF is dead!!!

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam hayat
            This is tplf core principle about ethiopia, and this is the core principle of the constitution of the country, “there is no ethiopianness as identity but ethiopia is a country with a collection of ethnic(different identity of peoples)created by minilik, this is tplf ideology and this core principle of tplf supported by vast majority tigraians.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Hayat,

            All good points, except

            “They go all the way in changing the entire Ethiopia and reshape it from hostile to favorbale.”

            I don’t know it sounds really scary thought, if I understand you correctly.

            It sounds to me a sucide mission, when there is absolutly no need for it.

            Berhe

          • Selam Berhe Y.,

            In my opinion i do not think that they will hand over getachew assefa. The elusive tplf official knows too much, and if he starts to sing in his cage like a canary or parrots like a parrot, what he knows about other tplf officials who he believes betrayed him, then even the river nile will not clean them from their crimes, or anybody will be able to save them from prison. Keeping his mouth shut is a means of survival for tplf.

            Tplf liberating ethiopia and making it favorable? Ethiopia has now become the same as tigray, “tigray is ethiopia and ethiopia is tigray”, is the name of the new game. As if ethiopianism was not seen by tplf and its supporters as amhara-ism, and unionism, they fought tooth and nail to erase from the ethiopian psyche everything ethiopian, and advanced ethnic nationalism to annihilate the very essence of ethiopia, as if they have not robbed the country and mistreated the people as colonial masters would have done, now they are trying to play a different tune, in case gullible ethiopians may believe tplf at its last hours. As if they have not said, we do not care if ethiopia goes to hell unless our wish is done, ethiopia is a country only a century old, we don’t care about the ethiopian flag for it is a piece of rag, etc, and as if they have not robbed, killed and tortured, they tell us that they are more ethiopians than other ethiopians. It is difficult what to call it, admission of the crimes and gross mistakes, repentance or arrogance. Nobody really knows.

            Anyway, the ethiopian pm seems to have started to call a spade a spade. “ግፍ ሰርቶ መደበቅ፣ ዘርፎ መንደላቀቅ ኣይቻልም።”. Wherever they may hide, we will get them. That is where tplf is taking the nation to, that is no good to nobody.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Horizon,

            I don’t see why they don’t give him up if he is accused. He has the right to defend himself. He doesn’t not have to testify against anyone, and he has the right to stay silence, unless he is tortured to name names.

            Berhe

          • Selam Berhe,

            I do not think that getachew assefa will sacrifice himself for the sake of tplf, and accept to remain in jail for the rest of his life. His crimes against human rights seem to be horrendous and extensive, which may put him in prison for life. He can’t be alone in this.

            Even the usa government seems to be interested in him. which can’t be without enough reasons. Some speak of arms sell to somalia and S.S., etc. Can a criminal have the moral high ground he did not have when he committed crimes against other human beings, that he will sacrifice himself for the sake of his comrades in crime?

            On a slightly different note: the deadlock between the federal government and tplf has been made to look like as if it is between the gov. of ethiopia (+- the people) on one hand and the people of tigray on the other, by identifying tplf and tigray as one, and as if tigray is complicit with the crimes of tplf. Tplf supporters are more or less denying that it has committed any crimes, and there were no corruption and gross human rights abuse, and they want to sweep everything under the carpet of economic development.

            Nevertheless, they won’t tell us at what cost, and if this economic development has trickled to the poor majority, or has helped ethiopia to come out of food aid (the number of people who are in need of food aid remained around 10% year in year out), or if it enriched tplf officials. They wouldn’t tell us that the infrastructures are the result of mainly chinese money and knowhow, that left behind about 40bn usa dollars in debt (more than 60% of gdp, above the safety line for a healthy economy, as said by economists). When the debts get mature and ethiopia starts to pay back, one can imagine the difficult situation ethiopia will find herself in. Moreover, a large percentage of the money that came from poor ethiopians for the gerd was robbed by tplf officials of metec, where 65% of the money was taken and only 25% of the job was done, and even then, of a poor quality which may require to pull down everything constructed by metec, and do the job all over again at a great expense.

            The zeraf-zeraf will take the country into another catastrophe, some more – some less, that will drag the country decades back, and expose her to enemies. On the other hand, those who were killed, imprisoned and tortured for their political beliefs, and the poor people’s money that was looted are crying for justice. Therefore, Ethiopia is again at a crossroad. It is difficult to imagine another raging war for the sake of few criminals.

            What i foresee, without being certain, is that in the shortest term tplf will remain entrenched in tigray, nobody will dare to cut the gordian knot, and both sides will finally be forced to ask themselves, “Where to go to now from here”, and somebody may come with a solution. Military intervention in tigray is a madness that will serve no purpose other than causing a catastrophe, independence of tigray is another illusion, as we have already seen with others, tplf cannot hide forever, and the people of tigray would not want to be cut off from ethiopia. Tigray cannot prosper by herself, economic development will go on in the rest of ethiopia, it is not going to wait for tigray, and we will see how things will develop in the coming months, and not years. At last, the Reality and not Imagination, will convince everybody. We should take the conspiracy theories coming from all sides with a lot of skepticism.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam berhe
            I want u to know tplf will hand over getachew assefa to 3A gov or 3A gov will arrest him using a federal gov force, just give them time and mark my word.

          • Senay Zer

            Dear Berhe — Reading the forum in the past few weeks, I’ve come to realize that people struggle to differentiate between TPLF and Tigray (the state and people). To large extent the intimate relation between TPLF and Tigray is understandable. At times, though, you can see that people (both pro/against TPLF) conflate the two just to win debates. Similar to the internal Ethiopian dynamics, discussing the relation of Tigray with Eritrea is always *contaminated* by this special relation between TPLF and Tigray. To give an extreme example, so much is talked of the hate of PIA toward Tigrayans. Outside his ugly rivalry with TPLF (and they had an official policy of removing him from power!), we don’t see much evidence of this ‘hatred’. But, it’s talked about as given. BTW, this shouldn’t be taken as attempt to give positive image of PIA – he is despicable. Also, I’m not implying his policies didn’t/don’t have negative impact on Tigray.

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Selam Hayat Adem (aka Gual Adem)
            Thank you for your concern about me. I’m doing well, have just been seen by a shrink and she said was good to go. She advised me to sing Wayane more often.
            Coming to your challenge? That’s a badly constructed challenge. Here is how;
            1. U have no figures to back up your claim.
            2. You omit the fact that peoples and nations clump together at times of external threat. The reason why more Eritreans have stood with the government is because they have faced external threat, real and immediate, when hundreds of thousands of Ethiopian troops dug in along the border and constant threats coming from the TPLF-controlled previous administrations of Ethiopia.
            3. Analytical proof (ha…ha): the more peace and stability take hold the more Eritreans will resort to peace time mode asking about civil liberties and good governance. On the other hand, TPLF has been hijacked and black mailed by WANTED individuals like Getachew Asefa. In turn, TPLF has held the people of Tigray hostage, and what we see is a clique fighting for its life.In the weeks preceding the Mekele demonstration TPLF youth had spread through the villages of Tigray and had agitated the people saying they were under threat. The skittish Dr. Dbrexion had to deliver what Getachew’s group had told him. Remember how many times he had to be corrected. Poor guy.
            Meanwhile Emma’s commando is ready to act to salvage what has left of poor TPLF. ከምዚ ጠራዕራዕ ርኢና ኣይንፈልጥን። ህዝቢ ትግራይ መሪሕነት ስኢኑ ኣሎ። እዚ ንርእዮ ዘለና ተዓጠቕ ተሸባሸብ ዘፍ ክብል እዩ። Mark my word. ብዙሓት ላባማት ትግራዎት ኣለዉ።

          • Hayat Adem

            Hi Mahmuday,
            Lebam ab kulu eyu, zeylebam’wn kem’u. Your langauge is growing Isayasque by the day. Ezi nay Weyane feraEferaE yibil neyru. Nisika ke’a hijji ጠራዕራዕ tibil alekha. too soon! What is going on!

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Ahlan Hayat Adem
            Some good news:
            Eritrea is going to host a football tournament of friendship Feb 11-18. Ethiopia, Somalia Djibouti and the hosting country, Eritrea, will participate. Compare the diplomatic frenzy we are witnessing nowadays with the days you were dreaming of military aggression against Eritrea. Tell you what, it feels just so good.

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Hayat,
            Mahmioud’s views were always clear to me–I do not see any change in his position. Therefore, as the Arabic adage goes, “izza Ourifa al-sebeb beTela al-Aajeb –when you know the reason, you wonder no more. I am neither happy nor sad because I am not surprised at any of his comments or views. Please leave that aside,

            Now, I am inviting you to play along with me; just accept or imagine the following as true for the game to have a meaning:

            1. the TPLF rules with an iron fist
            2. the TPLF is not equal to the people of Tigray
            3. what the people in Tigray do (eg. demonstration) is instigated by the TPLF
            5. TPLF exposing Tigray to risks to protect one person.
            4. therefore, the TPLF must go.
            5. PFDJ rules Eritrea with an iron fist.

            After accepting or imaging the above five points, replace every TPLF with PFDJ and every PFDJ with TPLF. Am I clueless, blind partisan, or what?

            I hope you enjoyed it, I might copyright this game —

          • Hayat Adem

            Hmmm H-SGJ,
            I have enjoyed it. I think this game/formula will serve many of us well. Thanks.

  • Abraham H.

    Selam Ayneta, very good analysis. “In my calculation, the winner at the end of the day is Ethiopia”, that is if the country stays in tact.

  • Selam Girmay,

    Look at the rhetoric coming out of tigray after tplf moved to meqelle. More or less the message is:
    – “Unless you ‘respect us’ we might as well separate”. If you ask what does respect really means in this case, you will hear different interpretations by different people, from allow us to come back to power to respect the culprits and do not bother them, etc. Entertaining secession and independence is not something that could easily be said or done at random without having in mind, peace, the economy and the well-being of the people. It is more or less taking the people of tigray on another odyssey of hardship, and if there is a conflict the suffering will be multiplied. Ethiopians see the political party which was at the helm of power and the people of tigray differently. They also know that the people are helpless at the hands of the party that forces them to say and do whatever it wants.

    – “The aim is to humiliate the people of tigray”. Putting together those who ruled the country, the tplf elites, and the people of tigray who were at the receiving end of the mistreatment under the dictatorial rule as all other ethiopians, which is equivalent to making them responsible for crimes they have not committed, is disingenuous of tplf.

    – The rhetoric “we are ready to fight” is irresponsible from whichever side it may come, for the consequences of war are very grave and catastrophic. People who have lived through wars should abhor war, and tplf used as it is with conflict does not seem to care at all.

    – “The new rules of ethiopia are incompetent to rule the country”. This points directly to the dictatorial method of controlling unrest, which is nothing else but killings, incarcerations and torture. What we hear coming out of ethiopia is that anti-peace individuals and criminals are gradually apprehended and put in jail with the help of the local people.

    – ‘The constitution should be respected’. I do not understand why tplf says that the constitution is not respected, because it is required to hand over to the federal court those suspected of crimes and corruption of one sort or other.

    – “A foreign power is cooperating with pm Abiy”, insinuating IA, which i think is meant to influence the support of the people than the reality, despite the rhetoric coming from the north. I believe that the pm will not accept any intervention from IA, and decisions are taken by the ethiopian pm of ethiopia.

    Where would you think that this standoff between tplf and the federal government will take them. There are people, tigrayans included, who say that the federal government should use the military if the regional government refuses to abide by the orders to hand over the culprits. I am sure PM Abiy will not reach such decision easily.
    The final question is ‘quo vadis” tplf. For how long could it stand against the tide? You see, it is a difficult and extremely dangerous situation. Comradeship and the mentality of a liberation front fighter should not have the upper hand, and when tplf asks for respect of the constitution, at the the same time it should also respect the laws of the federation, which are enshrined in the same constitution.

  • FishMilk

    Hi All. In the article you assert that ‘Observers believe that Isaias Afwerki of Eritrea has found leverage to interfere in Ethiopia’s internal affairs through the many armed opposition groups he hosted and trained in Eritrea’. Common guys, sounds similar to what the wounded TPLF and its followers are now spouting,. Who are the observers that you are referring to? It’s really a lame game plan and should be aborted, as well as any strategy to defame or discredit PMAA.

  • FishMilk

    Hi All. I just returned from Ethiopia where I spent time in Addis Ababa and Bahir Dar. Some takeaways:
    1) I met with several Eritreans in Addis Ababa and none mentioned anything about PFDJ operatives inside of Ethiopia or any related worries thereto
    2) Most young Eritreans that have left Eritrea do not have plans to return and most are transiting Ethiopia for other countries such as Kenya and Uganda. Older Eritreans said to be returning to Eritrea
    3) Numbers of people from Tigray in Addis Ababa continues to dwindle as they are continuing to return to Tigray
    4) Growing animosity against Tigrayans in general coming from continued anti-PMAA demonstrations occurring in Tigray; another big demonstration occured in Mekele yesterday
    5) All friends from Tigray that I spoke to in Addis Ababa are very critical of PMAA, saying that he is on a witch hunt and only targeting people from Tigray while not also going after others who have committed human rights violations. They are all downplaying Badme and issues of withdrawal and are supportive of continued anti-PMAA demonstrations in Tigray. They are very critical of PMAA not being able to control security in the country and blaming him for incidents which are reportedly occurring when Tigrayans are moving by vehicle from northern Wello into Tigray, forcing travel to from thru Afar region
    6) Non-Tigray are accusing the TPLF of being behind security incidents which are occurring in various parts of the country
    7) Local authorities in Oromiya land surrounding Addis Ababa are reportedly not allowing Tigrayans to sell or buy businesses
    8) Black market rate for USD still at 35 birr per dollar
    9) Addis Ababa still very quiet with very little construction activity, a lot of large construction works have halted and said to be linked with TPLF ownership and lack of clarity thereto
    10) All non-Tigray Ethiopians that I met are very open and accommodating to Eritreans

    • Mitiku Melesse

      Hei Fish.
      Nice summary. The dollar thing is maybe the Metec people buying all the dollars they can before they declare Independence. 27 years of killings, displacing, prison, torture was not allowed to compare against Tigray. If any one says why only Tigrians develop, get the upper hand, why Tigrians are not killed, or sent to prison just like the rest is a self declaration to be a terroist according to the tplf antit terror law. I think there is nothing left to be together with Tigrians as long as Tpl is leading them. It is best for both parts that Tigray declare independence in peace.

      • Mahmud Saleh

        Hi MM
        “I think there is nothing left to be together with Tigrians as long as Tpl is leading them.”
        I agree unless TPLF returns to it senses, if there are any senses left for it.

    • Brhan

      Hi Fishmilk,

      Nice report of your fishing trip. You forgot to fish in Adi Harush, Shemaleba etc

      • Ismail AA

        Selam Brhan,

        I agree that an Eritreans who possess resources and visit that part of the world would good to their conscience and human-ness to expend fraction of their time and money to visit the places you cited. A few days back at a social event in a residence of an Eritrean family, a person who has access to humanitatian operations of the Immigration and Naturalization services of the country I am staying in told us that since the opening of the borders 300,000 Eritreans had reported at the Aba Guna registration post. The situation has become unbelievably overwhelming that concerned authorities became desperate for space to host and supply massive arrivals. It’s worrying and frightening thing. Imagine how many are already in the camps?

  • Mahmud Saleh

    Selam AT

    “Eritreans living in Ethiopia are feeling threatened by the presence of several PFDJ operative in the country” AT

    I don’t know if there are intelligence operatives in Ethiopia, But that could not be ruled out. It is a normal pattern for countries to spread their intelligence assets where it matters.
    However, Eritreans are visiting Ethiopia as we speak. If you are speaking of Eritreans who live in Ethiopia, there will be certainly Eritreans who would feel threatened, and they better be. But not all Eritreans who live in Ethiopia.
    Now, time for the firing squad, if you have any bullet left.

    • Brhan

      Hi Mahmud,

      You said “there will be certainly Eritreans who would feel threatened” . Do not forget that Ethiopia has signed the 1951 Refugee Convention and 1967 Protocol and those Eritreans who you think they would feel threatened ( even though you did not indicate who they are) can claim with the UNHCR in Ethiopia and will be protected persons.

      And Awate is to inform, inspire and embolden not a bub of firing squad.

      • Saleh Johar

        Brhan,
        I am sorry, conventions and civility are not for brutes. UNHCR or anyone cannot protect you from lawless brigands. Many were killed in Ethiopia since 1991 and there were people who cheered and encouraged it. They are violent and bloodthirsty elements and accomplices to violation of cotizens’ rights and sanctity of life.

    • Ismail AA

      Selam MS,

      Since the launching of symbiotic relationship of love and state diplomacy by Dr. Abij and Eritrea’s despot nesting to it, and started feeding on it, I am yet to miss sense of fidelity to duty to the regime and its supreme leader. Many who have been reading you for sometime now might be feeling the same.

      Now, you are trying to tell us that it’s just normal for the regime to widen its surveilance and spy network in to Ethiopia. In other words, you are attempting to spray on it some hollywater of legitimacy. Then, after delivering on the duty side, you tried to preempt responses and dissuade critics by playing victimhood and alluding to arms and squads!.

      • Saleh Johar

        Ahlan Isamail,
        Sorry, I am not surprised. It’s only the veneer that is removed. Many rode on the silent-majority wagon with honesty, for a few it was to keep the veneer. Long live NSU.

        But this was exactly the mood that led to the 1998 war, an adventure that the innocent Eritrean deportees from Ethiopia paid for dearly. Recklessness is the name of the game and it’s time for round two… maybe round three 🙂

    • Abraham H.

      Dear Mahmuday, wow, how sad to see you defending the right of the predator regime of DIA to hunt down Eritreans in Ethiopia. So sad to see you regressing for every passing day regarding the need for justice to every Eritrean. I’m beginning to wonder whether there is virus called ‘wedi afom virus’, ደጊሱካ ከይከውን ይኽደነና.

    • Blink

      Dear MS
      As you predicted, here you have all of them running wild with a defeated face , their teeth making sounds of a fallen looter . Not a big h surprise they will change everything you said to a personal level and accuse you of many things . I don’t really know how they do their day to day life with such amount of hate and excessive stress for revenge. How can they sustain such things for almost 50 years still amuses me . The thing is MS you are beating them arms down and the only thing they can do is shouting. I hope you have the art of the time headphones with best music while writing to them.

    • Selam

      Selamat M S

      I agree with “Now, time for the firing squad, if you have any bullet left” I would like to add if you do not have buy from the market and make Ethio. battle filed. It is self defense. The firing squad may target the boss.
      Have a nice day

  • Blink
    • Girmay

      Hello dear Blink , the minute I told you about the reality on the ground you had a nervous breakdown. You thought that building secret packet with foreign powers was only the privilege of King Isayas . Nope Nope,,we too can play the game.
      You see king Isayas and his followers are very narrow mind. They design a map in their brain that keeps them similing.
      Dear Blink, Eritreans are great people. Sadly the leadership guiding their nation is blind. They play dangerous and reckless games and they expect the world to quietly babysit them.
      Blink you are concerned about school getting built on my head, but I am concerned about the antenna on your head. You have an antenna on your head that only plays king Isayas favorite movie called, The Great Miscalculator and Blink his worshipper. Blink change your antenna so that you can see the real tv show. We want peace and Eritrean people want peace but you and your miscalculator king want problems.
      If you have courage work for peace. Now you are just a cheer leader for foolishness and violence .

      • Blink

        Dear Ghirmay
        I know Debreseytam was praising You guys ( the Internett trolls like you ) but on the other hand Tsehaye ze lemani was talking about what ? You did not know , ok here it is https://www.facebook.com/bbcnewstigrinya/videos/1944494968965423/?t=9

        What’s left for weyane 2 is to get to the third one weyane 3 Incase the deceitful behaviour got little evolutionary determination to get real and honest .

  • Mitiku Melesse

    Hei All.

    Ethiopians call it brotherhood what the Eritreans have done for our freedom fighters to liberate us from Tplf. Awate team and tplf call it interference. The judges are the Ethiopians and Eritreans who gained their peace and gave their consent beyond any shred of doubt. The negative campaign against Abyi by awate team is a surprising one.

    • Brhan

      Hi Mitiku,

      Awate.com is neutral . The proof is your non-stop negative campaigns against TPLF are hosted by awate.com.

      Secondly, Awate as a credible media outlet is criticizing PMAA who has both strong and weak points when it comes to Eritrea. The strong point is making peace and his weak point dealing with a dictator at the expense of human right issues of Eritrea.

    • Selam

      Selamat M M,

      Eritrean people host Ethiopian’s to fight for their freedom. Those fighters that are used Eritrean soil to achieve their goal and now enjoying the freedom in their country should give back equal facility or treatment to Eritrean people to fight for his freedom.
      Spreading a lie like Andargachew ” የኤርትራ ህዝብ በዛን ጊዜ ከአምስት አመት በኃላ ሪፈረንደም አድርጎ ቢሆን ኖሮ ውጤቱ እንደዚ አይሆንም ነበር። ወያኔ ግን አውቆ ቶሎ እንዲሆን አደረገ” Eritrean people do not deserve such kind of cheap political lie from Gembot 7 leader. It is backstabbing to all Eritreans that they vote for independent.
      “The negative campaign against Abyi by awate team is a surprising one.” መጋቢ ሃዲስ እሸቱ እንዳሉት ዶክተር አብይ ትክክለኛ ደጋፊም ተቃዋሚም አላገኝም ” Criticizing, for what he is not doing good, is a healthy practice in a healthy democratic society. Critic is not a negative campaign. If there is no critic we will not do a quality job.
      Look in Somalia the MP’s want to impeach the president because he made a secret deal with foreign countries. This peoples are those they vote for him but they feel he is not working for the interest of the country, therefore they want activate their constitutional right to step dawn him. Does it mean a negative campaign against him. Did not he make a secret deal with Ethiopia and Eritrea. For me yes he did because I have not seen or heard from them or their office about their deal.
      This is a critic not a negative campaign. The same to PMAA. He himself said, we do not want an MP to clap his hand for everything. We want someone who criticize, oppose ideas, bring new ideas and etc…

      Have a nice day.

      • Mitiku Melesse

        Selam Selam.
        Good improvement from one paragraph to the next. Edalkachew critic is considered spreading a lie but Awat’s negative campaign since Abiy took office is a critic. Pure subjective from your side. I could have said a word or two about the referendum but dont want to ruin my day by mentioning woyane once more. But now I wish Tplf camouflaged a 99.9% percent independence as quick as possible.

        Good day.

  • Mitiku Melesse

    Hei Girmay.
    Yes Tigray defended them when Tplf deported them because Meles did not like the color of their eyes. Oh that is cliche. Sorry. Tplf deported Eritreans cold bloodily to show how tplf uses any group as use and throw to its bloodsucking greater Tigray republic.

  • iSem

    Ethiopia Does Not Really Get it
    HS thought cajoling and dividing would do it. Derg thought terrorizing will do it. Both failed miserably when Eritreans defeated mighty mama Ethiopia. How gratifying it was to witness the story of David vs Goliath unfold in my own eyes
    The TPLF thought siding with one Eritrean org and destroying an other would it. It failed. Then they changed their thinking, supporting dysfunctional opposition that divided like amoeba will do it. Appeasing the dysfunctional opposition has not does it
    Now Abiy, the moron who thinking love, fake love will do it. Decided siding with the butcher of Sahel and Asmara would do it. Now all id de javue, IA will have free reign in Ethiopia in exchange protecting Abiye, because Abiy does not trust his own security. That I the recipe from the past. The temporal access to the ports that is pulling a fleece over the faces of Ethiopia will usher is a disaster. Ethiopia will disintegrate, even those who crave dabbo (bread) in leuie of human dignity will regret it, when Ethiopia, this country sow with with old threads will be in taters. Because Ethiopia cannot, should not survive on the backs and blood of Eritreans
    Do not get me wrong, the Eritreans also do not get it, if they did they would have defeated PFDJ in the last 15 years. But Eritreans identity is like a virus Ethiopia sill soon find out that for longer term survival of Ethiopia in its current fake rhetoric is unsuitable, and the reason is not the ethnic federalism, it is its myopic view the leaders it produces.
    May Ethiopia disintegrate, a united Ethiopia with the Abiye doctrine is dangerous to the Eritrean identity, an identity that was in the formation of theast 150 years, an identity that claimed 100k lives, an identity that survived despite the conspiracy if PFDJ and Ethiopia, different colour and shades of Ethiopawinet
    Eritrea has never been safe for Eritreans, now both Ethiopia and Eritrea are not and both countries are conspiring to un due the Eritrean identity and over century aspiration of peace, democracy and justice. And the answer to the question of who is our enemy is both Ethiopia under Abiye and PFDJ and we have no an other enemey

    • Selam iSem,

      OMG, i never expected that you could come to this level of frustration and hopelessness. I never thought you live in a mythical world. Do you remember the days when you were craving with your friend for tplf to invade eritrea? Your explanation was that purportedly a failed state to the north of ethiopia, as is somalia to the east, will be dangerous to ethiopia’s security, because eritrea will be overrun by extremist islam, and eritrea is a bastion against muslim extremists from sudan.

      Of course, with tplf gone and of no use to you anymore, who will invade eritrea? Now, you have turned into godot, who is waiting for the disintegration of ethiopia, with the hope it will benefit tigray and eritrea. Be sure, if that day ever comes, it will take everybody to hell without exception. If you believe that the two will prosper on the ashes of ethiopia by exploiting the dispersed and weak ethnic groups, you are grossly mistaken. What a pity.

      Why do you call pm Abiy “the moron”? Is it because you know very well that he is not going to do your errand, “demand for democracy from DIA”, or invade eritrea, when you yourselves would not dare to raise a finger against the despot. Maybe with a remote control, you can depose the pfdj.

      You forget conveniently what transpired in the last three decades. It was MZ that was surrounded by eplf security forces as he ascended to power until he could trust his own people, and ia/pfdj did anything they liked in ethiopia. PMAA is in danger only from the reactionaries who have lost the power of exploiting ethiopia. He has not shed blood like tplf to come to power, and therefore, he is in danger only from criminals and kleptocrats, and the hodams from other ethnic groups who are easily bought with money, and not from the people of ethiopia who appreciate the political measures he has taken up to now.

      How can ethiopia survive at the expense of eritrea, when eritrea herself is fighting to survive, or you do not see problems in eritrea from far away? Who has benefited up to now? As much as the use of the ports by ethiopia is concerned, a thorn in the flesh of diaspora eritreans and the opposition, try to understand that the west is not interested, uae will soon abandon it when the war in yemen is over, and it is only ethiopia who can use them and even help to protect them, unless you bring back egypt and the ottoman turks after so many centuries. These are the only forces that could be remotely interested. You can’t blackmail ethiopia anymore. There are so many other choices.

      “May Ethiopia disintegrate”; Oh iSem, what a pity, you can’t do it, your black magic cannot do it, and you have to put up with the continued existence of ethiopia wwith your big frustration and hopelessness. Maybe ethiopia will end up being strong and prospering, and her enemies would be leaking their wounds forever.

      Living in the west, enjoying everything the west is providing you, and lamenting for eritrean identity is a hypocrisy, and it is equivalent to becoming a big obstacle against other eritreans back home. If you can feel an eritrean even though you live in the west for decades, be sure where ever eritreans may go or live, they will always feel eritreans. You want other eritreans to sacrifice, defend and keep for you what you believe gives the eritrean identity, i.e the land. Join them back home, and do not outsource your responsibilities to the poor people back home who want to live a decent life like you or any other human being.

      Go and fight the dictator and not anybody else you see near him. PM Abiy has No obligation to eritrea other than responding in friendship, and IA has NO rights in ethiopia other than working for peace and economic well-being of the two people. Meddling in ethiopian politics is a transgression, and nobody is going to be allowed either IA or his pfdj. You better be sure about that. It exists only in your imagination that there is a plot against eritrea by ethiopia. Don’t connect your failures with an ethiopian conspiracy.

      • Haile S.

        Selam Horizon,
        You said, …..”As much as the use of the ports by ethiopia is concerned, a thorn in the flesh of diaspora eritreans and the opposition”…. Ooooch! Horizon, please stop elbowing the standing Eritreans when you walk through the still smoking EPLF-ELF battlefield and civil war that continues to play in their proxy-land and virtually here. You have a lot of interesting and substantial takes on the politics of our region, but unfortunately, you rarely miss the opportunity to elbow us. On the ports, please do not have doubt that every eritrean deep inside knows they are of little use if Ethiopia doesn’t use them; geographic reality dictates. And no eritrean really wants the disintegration of Ethiopia. Such parole is pronounced just out of frustration and for self satisfaction purposes.

        • Paulos

          Selam Hailat,

          You can clearly see how confused these people are. No substance what so ever except empty bravado laced with emotions and feat of tantrums.

          As I said it before, the relationship between Isaias and Abiy is not sustainable, simply because they have nothing in common except for ephimeral tactical advantages which is again based on fluid situations.

          Eritrea lacks institutional pillars where the entire political edifice is anchored not on the will of the people but on the impulsive whims of one person. And this is extremely fragile where any country including Ethiopia can not bet on investing [politically that is] on Isaias’ Eritrea. Abiy clearly knows that, if Isaias is gone, Eritrea as a state is gone as well. Again, there are no political institutions that endure in an event of drastic change.

          On the other hand, Ethiopia has political institutions including civil liberties where the people are aware of their constitutional rights. To be more precise, the mechanism of politics is not invested on one person but on the citizens as well. When Eritrea and Ethiopia are diametrically divergent in political scope and vision, one can not expect their relationship to endure but to come into a complete halt—and that is a matter of time. What is more interesting is that, Isaias is cognizant of the fact as well, as in he knows that his relationship with Abiy is not sustainable and he will squeeze any advantage he may find till the time he parts ways with Abiy comes. Given this reality, Ethiopians including Abiy do not have any other option except to engage in civil discourses where resorting into violence will breed more violence. The only way to civil discourse is upholding the Constitution. As for Eritrea, there is no way for a change to come as long as Isaias is in power. It is only when democratic institutions are put in place where the relationship between Eritrea and Ethiopia could be durable and sustainable.

          • Ismail AA

            Selam Dr. Paulos and Haile S.

            Do you agree with me that Isayas like Idi Amin and Jean Bidel Bokassa, and many like them in history, would perish without leaving an iota of legacy save horrible memories of cruelty and ruthlessness?

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Ismailo,

            If he succeed in his project to annex Eritrea with Ethiopia, will surely have a legacy in the “Ethiopian history” and in the “heart of the Ethiopian people” who fought for decades, for Key Bahrachin. But on the Eritrean history side, whether he succeed or not, he will not have an iota of legacy whatsoever. He will be remembered as the worst evil man who teared down the “social fabric of Eritrean society” and killed the “can do spirit” of our young generation” by entrapping into modern slavery. There is no space for him in the heart of the Eritrean people.

          • Ismail AA

            Dear Aman,
            I had in mind Eritrea and it’s people. Otherwise, you are right; some chauvinist Ethiopian elites have already started selling the despot as their own and hero. They are not even trying to learn lessons from the costly mistakes of their former leaders, and take time to weigh feasibility of whether the despot can re-make history that the Eritrean people had paid blood and sweat to establish.

          • Paulos

            Selam Kbur Haw Ismail AA,

            First, let’s start with the name. No Eritrean parent will name their son Isaias for generations to come. Isaias is unique in the sense no leader can amount to his level of apathy and cruelty including the two African former leaders you mentioned. More over, what makes him to stand alone with in the scale of cruelty is robbing the dignity of an otherwise proud and dignified people.

          • Abraham H.

            Selam Paulos, I sometimes ask myself, what is that DIA really wants? What does he want to achieve in his life with all the anti-Eritreans policies that he has been pursuing for decades? I couldn’t really find an answer to that. He sometimes remind me of children who bully other kids, just for the sake of it.

          • David Samson

            Selam Abraham,

            First, thanks for Zewde’s link.

            IA is not shrewd and cunning politicians. He speaks plain and does not sugar-coat his real intentions. He made it absolutely clear that he wants to be the king of greater Ethiopia and use Eritrean’s people aspiration as launching pad to achieve his dream. I understand IA’s intentions and as with many aspiring kings, he wants to expand his empire. What I have been struggling for a while is with the real intentions of Tegadeltis. I am on the verge of concluding that most the so-called Tegadeltis did not know what was the purpose of 70-years of bloodshed. I believe the question should be directed at us— the people, not IA— as he knows what is his doing.

          • Abraham H.

            Selam David S., you are welcome. Well, let’s say DIA dreams of once becoming the king of Ethiopia, then why does he have to be so mean against the Eritrean people; couldn’t he just keep with his dream while treating the Eritrean people fairly. What I don’t understand is his level of cruelty towards Eritreans. Above all, it was the Eritrean people who carried him on their shoulders all along; giving him the other cheek while he keeps battering them. Actually, I don’t think there is any people in the world that has been so patient and tolerant against a mistreating dictator like the Eritrean people.

          • David Samson

            Selam Abraham,

            No, IA needs to create submissive people. Mind you, if IA treats us fair, we will question his motives and does not bode well with his desire. I do not know if you remember Tesfay Temnow’s interviews. He said, “ IA does like anyone to work with him, but rather
            the person’s job is just to take orders from him and delivers for him”. IA has been the same person since day one; it is just we do not want to see it. When he told the central committee of EPLF about his intentions, it was not behind their back.

          • Ismail AA

            Selam David Samson,

            Many who watched, and have been watching, Isayas through the years – beginning school age years and his early presence in the field with the ELF – agree with you about his unquenchable thirsthy for power and control. As you have indicated the zenith of power and its pomp and grandeur is cronotion on the throne of a kingdom as sanctified in the Habesha religious-cum-cultural tradition. In mindset and upbringing, thus, Isayas may not be counted alien in that context, namely, aspiration to the throne of the Habshaland currently know as Ethiopia.

            But, the pending issues are: is he fit in terms of character and skill to scheme through and satiate his aspiration? And the more desperate question: is the essence of time in his favour because the man is aging and already in to the last quarter of his life. I remember, during the euphoric early 90s after liberation, there were casual coversations floating among Asmara crowds that Isayas is irreplaceable, and that there had to be ways to keep him as leader. As I recall, one of those occasions was in a public orientation meeting in Cinema Dante ( I do not recall the month and year as I type these lines).

            Had he not blown off those incubating developments through recklessness and over ambition, and decided to chew more than he could and fel out with Woyane, he probably would have been able to try his chance to enthrone himself over Eritrea, and then push on to the wider Habeshaland. He might have regreted the miscalculation with Meles Zenawi’s Woyane. Now, hence, given the obstacles cited above, how feasible is fufilment of Isayas’ ambition to be crowned as king over Ethiopia?

            The first issue one has to consider is whether Ethiopia can return back to a monarchy in tact as the curren territorial and demographic nation-state. Would Isayas survive the ferocity of competion among many claimants to the throne, including Abij himself. What are the chances that the center of gravity of kingship would return to Habeshaland and anchor again in the Waldiba (Lake Tana), Debredamo, Aksum and Debre Bizen axis? Can this happen without another round of Zemene Mesafint that could ensue disintegration of Ethiopia and re-integration of tradition Habshaland without the Lekempt, Jimma, Borena Moyale, Harer, Samara and Alamata chunk of Ethiopia?

            The trend now is shift from the north to south – regarding the centre of political weight. I do not imagine Isayas is in position to navigate through such politically and ambitionwise rugged terrain. Thus, his aspiration cannot exceed in every sense or measure mere hallucination. His chance is nesting in to the Ethiopian body politics in symbiotic relation to stay on and die as ruthless despot over the Eritrean people.

            Incidentally, in his entire career so far, he always needed and managed to get some force to feed on. In 1970 he did not hesitate to knock at the doors of Emperor Haile Sellasie’s government before he got martyr Saleh Sabbe; in 1976, he lost Sabbe and rushed to hold a congress and cleansed himself of leftist slogans such anti-imperialism and anti-Zionism and got support from USA and allies in their bid to end the Derg and Soviet encroachment in the Horn of Africa. This opened his way to an alliance with the Woyane and rode on the back of their manpower to ignite war against the ELF in 1980 and alter the military balance in Eritrea. After 1998, he allied with Iran, and then with Qatar with USA and allies in the background. And currently with the Emirates and the Saudis with Trump’s blessing. So, to re-state point, the despot needs Ethiopia as guarantee against the Eritrean people’s aspiration to liberate themselves from him while entertaining dream he knows would never come true.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Dave,

            Issayas has never been a shrewd and skillful politician. He is only lucky to have subjects classified as simple followers only “ዝነገሰ ንጉስና”. otherwise he is neither a skillful strategist nor a smart politician. So the problem should be directed at his subject – the Eritrean people.

          • Haile S.

            Selam Ismail,
            This is a great question not easy to answer. The political upbringing of IA and the other 2 are different as well as their behaviour in power. IA’s mistakes are institutional. His organization is equally responsible. The mistakes might even go outside his institution due to inaction or indifference or incapacity of those that are vocally against him. The later could have a neutralizing effect. Leaving aside the immediate anger we harbor talking about him, lets not forget his ego is different from the ego of those two. It will all depend on how the change is brought in.

          • Abraham H.

            Selam Paulos, well put analysis, except I’m afraid this one is giving the DIA worshipers a talking point. “Abiy clearly knows that, if Isaias is gone, Eritrea as a state is gone as well. “

          • Haile S.

            Selam Paul,

            You are absolutely right in centering the issue on absence of institutions. IA has become both literally and metaphorically, a Wall. Literally, because he has no ears, metaphorically, because he became by default the sole defender of eritrean sovereignty for reasons that has been debated multiple times here. Within that wall, there are NO subdivisions (institutions) that support and reinforce the exterior wall. IA knows it absolutely and that is the reason he told PMAA “you are now our leader, please lead us”, which can be translated into, “if I go, I leave the trust and fate of eritrea on your hands”.
            On IA wanting to squeeze Ethiopia, I don’t believe and I don’t take it as given that IA has or had a bad design for Ethiopia. All these rumors saying EPLF was exploiting Ethiopias in the early 90s, if any, was not without the the active and leading role of TPLF to begin with, and later brought to public for pure propoganda purpose spread by TPLF themselves to innocent TPLF to garner support in the war against Eritrea. Remember, it was a time TPLF cadres and banks were giving loans to tigrians and also Eritreans saying የሰሜን ሰው, at least in order to obtain and boost the public vote of confidence and support.
            The desire of IA to be seen as the great leader is still alive; it is inherent in him. He doesn’t understand why people do not see things the way he sees them. His whole focus in the last 2 decades has been on TPLF, not Ethiopia. On the damaging effects of TPLF on eritrea, he was right. What he was not right is to follow them on that path to the darkness they were taking him. They were holding the lantern and they apparently prepared an exit for themselves, but he as a blind follower, he did not prepare himself, other than saying if you go that way, I will follow you and push you deep inside. In this intricate game of the labyrinth, he forgot about Eritrea and eritreans. Now, the blind side of IA is that he wants his citizens to see his intelligence in exposing the nature of TPLF, but stayed unintelligent as always, in his mistake in following them in their strategy of destruction (on Eritrea) and in underestimating the capacity of his citizens to see his short-sightedness in managing the state affaires. The war-fatigued Eritreans inside eritrea are just observing IA extricating himself from that mess with the help of PMAA. IA’s opposition are also doing the same from outside apparently waiting to see his demise even at the risk of taking the country with him. But they can also choose to help him get extricated in some way. To do this they need deep thoughts and ASAP.
            Back to the lack institutions, the greatest headache of our nation. EPLF chose to let the existing institutions decay at the expense of the country’s defense without balancing between the two. As the result, not only institutions decayed, but also the people that run them without any replacement. Imagine a minister or high-level manager aged 75 and above who depends on his exiled children for survival and trying to manage a ministry or a large department in that condition. When I saw the young Ethiopian ladies get appointed by PMAA to higher responsibilities few weeks ago, I was happy for the country, but felt jealous. Rare are the educated and the specialist in the country in all domains. Any effort to retain them is nil…..

          • iSem

            hi Paul: how are u fratello
            I think any relationship has a life span, specially in politics, so this one will last as long as both need each other. When Woyane was in charge and specially with MZ, they managed to coccoon IA into Adi Halo, they isolated him. Now Abiye gave him much needed life line and as my friend BY called Nitricc the other day, the Militia Taffa are now IA supporters until IA takes away their food and qat
            It is unsettling to see PFDJ security in Ethiopia, if Abiye was visionary he would have it both ways: he could have his relationship with IA and still be mindful about the long term interest of Ethiopia and Eritrean aspiration. Now Eritreans will be hunted just like in the TPLF era before the war.
            But Ethiopians seem to get blind when the access to the sea is offered and they have forgotten that the obsession with sea was the reason they they are still starving. Irony is they have done well when the curse of the sea was denied to them, suddenly they got creative to solve their problem and now they have regressed
            IA will do anything to get the support of Abiye. IA needs Abiye and Abiye needs him as long this equation is valid, the relationship will endure. Sustainability is in the strength of needs of the parties
            The ” go fight IA” line the our friend horizon is peddling is misguided. We are talking about how this unholly relationship will shape the long term interest of Ethiopia is at risk and the sovereignty of Eritrea has never been at risk because now the man at the helm has been working for it for 50 years. opportunity knocked and he told us, Abiye is our leader, Abiye has to edit it, but the Freudian slip has already slipped
            Even after PFDJ is gone as Dr Berhe G, who woke up from his slumber said, Eri will be behind, way behind, we will be subservient ot Ethiopia and slowly we will be taking down the framed photos on our desks. Sad. Equally sad the former visionaries like MS, nay Wedi Saleh’s have become blind to this

          • Paulos

            Semerile,

            Come stai caro fratello?

            Isaias is stuck in time where alliances are chosen over friends. In the era of the Front, it was given to have a modus operandi based on strategy and tactics as a function of time, precisely because, any alliance was a means to a greater end. As it happened however, Isaias is unable to transform his mind set into a statesman where friends are chosen not for a means to an end but one chooses them in a bid to share a common cause. As such, Abiy is just another means that will be discarded when he is indispensable no more. And it is just a matter of time.

            The era of populism is probably the accent of the day but the era of dictatorship is out of synch and Isaias can not survive in a world way ahead of his archaic game. Either he has to call for a reform otherwise living in a complete totalitarian grip will bring him into a tense collusion with Abiy as the latter builds a nation based on Constitutionalism—-as long as he does that is.

            The Weyanes are there to stay. Perhaps not only Eritreans who oppose Isaias will find a safe haven in Tigrai but others including Amharas and Oromos will find refugee there should the situation gets ugly in Ethiopia. It is not a far fetched scenario to foresee a replica of Eastern Sudan in Ethiopia if Isaias is given a free ride in Ethiopia but in Tigrai. Ethiopians who are berating the Weyanes day-in and day-out have no idea what is coming to them should they choose Isaias over the Weyanes.

          • iSem

            Paulo
            stono bene, e tu?
            I agree with most of your points.
            But bear in mind the following to elaborate and even make more penetrating analysis on your impeccable knack of understanding the issues in our country and the relationship between our countries
            1. by the time PMAA and IA are done, it would be late for us: our economy, our confidence and even identity
            2, The Woyane are dangerous, tricky, remember they are related by DNA to Alula and every time they fight against Eritreans, they have won. Saleh’s speech was revealing: how they humiliated the opposition by offering them money, cash. and although MZ tamed them, the Siyes, and Abay Woldu’s wield lots of power in Tigray. Their tone now are because they are cornered, so what will the opposition could do from their heavens in Tigray?nothing.
            I said this many times before and it bears repeating: the opposition cannot win without out creating deeper roots both in Ethiopia and Sudan and now in Tigray, they put their eggs in one basket is how I put it then. People misrepresent the idea of Ethiopai helping the opposition. The TPLF were deliberately allowing the mushrooming of opposition in Ethiopia, instead of supporting the most potent ones. I knew this time would come
            3. Also remember,your earlier point of lack of insit in Eritrea: add to that IA is destorying the innate Eritrea inst, like family, friendships,love of wedi gezawtika, love of wedi adika, love of your distance relatives etc
            4. Abi’s vision is myopic because the long term interest of Ethiopia,( by long country is not its alliance with the PFDJ, but with the yearning of Eritreans.
            MZ recognized that after the TPLF crimes against innocent Eritreans during the war. His olive branch of allowing Eritreans to attend university and accept them as refuges was a sign.
            Ethiopian can be giddy about the sea access, they can salivate over the words of Asefa Jembere, they can enjoy all the wet dreams in their prospects of unfettered access to the ports,but it i the same misguided notions that was their achille’s heels in the first place.
            In the same way the Woyane’s equivacation to truly support the opposition brought them here, with no alliance, sandwitched between Amahra, Sudan and PFDJ, they decided to take no risks toppling IA and kept it him isolated, Abiye’s dalliance of IA at the expense of our yearning will come to haunt Ethiopia and he smoothing, slick talking will not save him

          • Paulos

            Semerile,

            Before we talk about the Opposition, I want to tell you a story.

            Enter Chaim Weizmann. As you know, Weizmann was the first President of Israel when it was first founded in the late 40s. Before he was elected to be a president however, he was a well respected Biochemist.

            In the early years of the 20th century, the Zionist movement wasn’t getting much traction due to partly Britain’s objection to the demand of founding a home land. Later on however, when World War I broke out, politics and science found a synergy in Weizmann. Weizmann had something crucial at his own disposal what the British desperately needed for the war effort. He had already patented the production of Acetone through the process of fermentation using a specific bacteria. Certainly, acetone through other means had been synthesized before by different means but it was only accessible in Germany, a country which was at war with Britain. The British asked Weizmann to make acetone in mass priduction. He obliged but he asked in return something his organization has been asking for. A homeland in Palestine. It was later known us “The Belfour Declaration.” Weizmann was indispensable.

            Are the Eritrean Opposition groups indispensable? Or to the very least, do they have what it takes for them to be taken serious by the host country—Ethiopia or Tigrai? On an individual level, if someone doesn’t have respect for himself, he can’t expect people to have respect for him. The same logic applies with in group dynamics as well. If the Opposition, let alone to be indispensable, if they are unable to manage their relationship among each other, it is not fair to project their incompetence onto someone else simply because the rule of the game is not warped in charity but in the dry and at times unfair world of politics.

          • iSem

            Hi Paul:

            True what you say about the opposition.

            But our own Weizmanns align with the dictator.
            an other contemporary of Weizmann and first PM is David Gurion and quote that is attributed to him is relevant to our predicament and I can imagine IA has the quotes in bold in his bedroom: “the old will die and the young will forget”

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Hi Samray,

            Now, the opposition will not have a foot in Ethiopia to operate. We shall see see now what other escapegoating they will get to cover their ineptness so clearly was seen in the last twenty years. I saw them since 2011, they don’t have the quality of leadership in their make ups. They were maneuvered by individual Eritreans from outside their circle who became the seeds of their discordants. Their failure has nothing to do with Ethiopia but rather it is from their incompetence and lack of independence to run their business. Unless they admit their own failure and start from clean slate, they will never recuperate from these endless failures from time to time. Working with them for few years makes me better evaluations than those who never fail to give their judgement from second hand or un verified informations.

  • Teodros Alem

    Selam girmay
    1st, there is no country called tigrai but a part of ethiopia.
    2nd, peace between eri and ethio means peace with the whole of eri and the whole of ethio.
    3rd, tplf is still part of eprdf,
    4th, if PIA treat eris as useless toys or as king, it is eritrea issue .
    5th, internationally recognized leader in eritrea is PIA and the countries of the world has to work with his gov when they need to work with eri, so it can’t be unique for ethiopia.
    6, today presidents of sudan and Djibouti visited ethiopia just like presidents of eritrea and somalia did the other day. It is all about peace, economic cooperation ,….

    • Girmay

      Hi Teddy, just keep your trust on fake Abie. We have figured out a forumla that will expose him. You can call us a village, city, or province. If your fake prime minster can conspire to humilate Tigreans, we have the right to conspire with 80 countries if we want to. And too late that program is complete, Abie is too foolish and silly. He thought he was the only smartest guy. We too can play the game.
      Teddy and Mitiku we will see if you will continue the foolish reality that Ethiopia is in.

      • Mitiku Melesse

        Hei Girmay.
        The humiliation is self inflicted. Late alone Tigrians even the none Tigrians were humiliated by the greed and inhuman behaviour of tplfs. Maybe you are confused by the word tplf. Tplf stands for Tigriay people liberation front. The conspiring is busted and that is what made the so called Tigray republic founders turned themselves terroists all over Ethiopia. The humiliation will continue. In case you dont get it Addis Abeba uses the 80 nation nationalities people to celebrate our constitution day while the tplf uses the fake flags of each people.

        • Girmay

          Hi Mitiku,,you are just a small time propaganda man. You have lost control of your fingers. When you type your fingers and your brain are not connected. My first recommendation is for you and your fingers to be reunited on the keyboard.
          You see you guys pull the Tplf card every second. It is too boring now. Its also too late. There are many forces now operating in Tigray to make sure the fake leader in Addis pays his dues. Forget about Tplf. Its about Tigrean people fighting back to make sure ESAT intellectuals dont ever have a chance in Tigray.
          You see your Abie and ESAT were quiet when Tigreans were killed and threatened in Gondar. Do you think these people will protect the interest of Tigrean?
          Mitiku I don’t expect you to understand because you are a small time propganda man. Your literature and news source is ESAT the fake news.
          So why would I think you could be a balanced thinker when all you consume is hate? You consume hate and you spit hate. Nothing I will say to you will ever make sense to you. Continue with your cheap, boring and predictable propaganda. I dont expect creative and new ideas from you. You are just a recycle bin of ESAT Tigray bashing fake news. Nothing more.

          • Mitiku Melesse

            Hei Girmay.
            Esat call them Ethiopians and reported about all killings. Ethiopians all over have been killed by tplf and no demonstration from Tigray or sympathy. The rest pays their respect. This not rocket science to find out. Tplf bring the bread home. Period.
            All Ethiopians dont wish harm to Tigrians. But except Tigrians no one support Tplf. That is the thing you couldn’t understand and it doesnt matter now.

            The crimes of tplf is told all over Ethiopia except the tplf medias in Tigray. So dont act as if you dont know.

            But the good thing is we have one of the best constitution and tplf forgot how that constitutions works when it killed thousands and made Ethiopia without any oppositions party by declaring anti terror law meaning NOT ALLOWED TO OPPOSE TPLF, Tigrians people liberation front. Immidiately after tplf won 100% then you know the rest. Now luckily tplf remembered the constitution and i hope use it wisely. And we pray that you leave us with peace after the declaration. We have to be civilized. We dont want the same hazardous problems of 1998.

            My question to you is that do you support tplf or not? Just curious.

      • Teodros Alem

        Selam girmay
        1, what i told u is fact.
        2, let alone to conspire, tigrai can’t even survive 2 years with out handouts. That is a facf too.
        3, sometimes i think no ethiopia is way much better than eprdf ethiopia(minus 3A)
        4, am not that much interested with tribal ethiopia, my worry is the innocent civilians life, rather than that, trust me, am not that much interested with tribal ethiopia(eprdf ethiopia).
        5, if there is a peaceful way that can dismantle tribal ethiopia, i will be happy. but the name ethiopia will always my identity.

  • Brhan

    Hello Awate,
    I agree with you that the Eritreans in Ethiopia will be vulnerable to PF(JD) threats and to save themselves they have to seek UNHCR protection. The good thing about Ethiopia, like Egypt and unlike Saudi Arabia, it has UNHCR offices, and Eritreans can register with UNHCR refugee camps in Tigray, Ethiopia. Thus they will be protected person under international law and the regime in Addis can’t do anything to them.

    • Blink

      Dear Brhan
      How is your thinking? Do you ever considered that all UNHCR camps are going to be accessible to PFDJ security apparatuses, no you did not . The camps are not save . I think the only save place is running . As for the Eritrean identity, I disagree completely. Eritrean identity will never get lost and it’s basics stand to observe what ever thing you are saying. But one thing is clear weyane is all gone , yesterday Mekele dance was the last one.

      ስለፍቅር ሲባል ስለ ጸብ ካወራን ተሳስተናል
      አንድ ላይ ብንሆንም ተለያይተናል፡፡
      አተናል እዉነት ነዉ ተቸግረን ብዙ አይተናል
      የመጣነዉ መንገድ ያሳዝናል፡፡

      እግር ይዞ እንዴት አይሄድም
      ሰዉ ወደፊት አይራመድም?
      አፈር ይዞ ዉስጡ አረንጓዴ
      ለምን ይሆን የራበዉ ሆዴ
      ብራናዉ ይነበብ ተዘርግቶ ባትሮሱ ላይ
      የነ ፋሲለደስ የነ ተዋናይ
      የት ጋር እንደሆነ ይታይ የኛ ጥበብ መሰረቱ
      የኋላዉ ከሌለ የለም የፊቱ
      ሳይራመድ በታሪክ ምንጣፍ
      ሰዉ አይደርስም ከዛሬ ደጃፍ
      ከአድማስ እየራቀ ምነዉ ይሄ መንገድ ያባክነኛል
      ……….. you can do it or I can call Abi to fill the remaining.

      • Brhan

        Hi Blink,
        “The camps are not save. I think the only save place is running”
        do you mean safe for save?
        The camps are safe because Ethiopia has signed 1951 Refugee Convention and 1967 . Because I do not want to be subjective…check the convention and the protocol by yourself and you will understand why Ethiopian will make the camps safe.

        • Blink

          Dear Brhan
          Pls understand the game in a different way , this is PFDJ we are talking right ? Ok then if you agree with me then you need to understand under any circumstances PFDJ has always a spy in the heartland of every Ethiopian city even at the time of weyane in 4 kilo . Now they have their own friends even out side the new government. All G-7 , OLF , ONLF , Ogaden and many are happy to help PFDJ with any requests. Don’t forget the old security apparatuses of EPRDF is being cut short by team lema and team of the Amhara regional administrations and there is nothing UNHCR can do about anything PFDJ moves . My personal advice is these who fear for their life must move quickly and fast away from all Ethiopia. The Afar movement of Eritrea are under big pressure as their financial backers of weyane are being removed by one click with out shooting one bullet .

          I don’t see any safe place in Ethiopia unless you are youth dreaming big or plan going to the west . Remember all Eritrean embassies in the region stopped giving passports and Ethiopian security apparatuses are helping PFDJ in cutting corners.

          • Brhan

            Dear Blink ,

            You understand rather. We are talking about Eritreans in the refugees camps…thousands and thousands …If you are Eritrean, you might have a relative or friend…I am talking about the safety of your relative and friend ….I hope you understand my point and I am not playing a game with the issue of safety of our people

          • Blink

            Dear Brhan
            I have a relative and he doesn’t have to worry about PFDJ spies because he has nothing. He was serving them for a good 9 years and now he is in Ethiopia trying to open business in the heart of Jima , he got his refugee card in side one month and just moved from Tigray to Jima . I don’t believe PFDJ spies are looking for any Eritrean, they are looking for an Eritrean with a sign of weyane playing heart or something seriously they think must be down . You know people are just visiting Asmara from the Tigray refugee camp . PFDJ are looking for people with interest. Remember just last week they asked one singer to apologize and keep his mouth shut , this was all done in Tigray ( mekele ) so you know .

  • Teodros Alem

    Here is the true news in ethiopia today, meAshu kedene and hadushe kassa arrested today, both of them were former spies.