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EIPJD delegation Meets Turkish Politicians

A delegation from the Eritrean Islamic Party for Justice and Development (EIPJD) concluded a one-week visit to Turkey during which it met several Turkish politicians, thinkers and humanitarians.

The EIPJD delegation was headed by Shiekh Saleh Mohammed Osman, the party’s secretary general, and Mohammed Nur Kerrani, the secretary of foreign relations .

During its visit, the delegation met Dr. Nureddin Nabati, the deputy president of Turkish Justice and Development party, and Dr. Yassin Aktai, the party’s deputy secretary of foreign relations. It also met Prof Mustafa Kamalat, the president of Felecity (Saadet) Party.

The delegation also briefed its Turkish and Arab diplomatic and other audience about the Eritrean opposition, its role and the role of the Eritrean people in struggle to come up with a democratic alternative to “accomplish peace and development in Eritrea after the removal of the dictatorial regime that is oppressing all the Eritrean people of all age groups and regions… before the Eritrean state becomes a failed state in the region.

The delegation also emphasized the risk of Eritreans leaving their country, particularly the youth who are “leaving Eritrea in huge numbers, and becoming victims and dying in deserts and seas.

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  • Dear all,
    Please note that the forum doesn’t encourage posts related to arts and entertainment to be posted under articles. We have created a folder named Jebena for this purpose. Kindly refrain from posting songs and other unrelated video. Since we cannot remove the attachments, we might be forced to delete the comment.

    Thank you

  • Nitricc

    ህወሃት ግን አንድ መልዕክት ለማስተላለፍ ነበር አርቲስቶቹን ወደ ደደቢት የወሰዳቸው። አዚህ ተነስተን፣ አፈር ለብሰን፣ አፈር በልተን፣ የፈረስ ሽንት ጠጥተን የያዝናት ስልጣን ናት። ይህችን ስልጣን በምርጫ እንደማናስረክብ እናንተም አረጋግጡልን… እንዲሁ ተቃጥላችሁ ታልቃላችሁ እንጂ በሰላማዊ መንገድ ለውጥ አታስቡ… የሚል መልዕክት።
    እኔም በዚህች ቀልድ ጽሁፌን ልቋጭ። አንድ የህንድ ኢንቨስተር አዲስ አበባ ዬሴፍ ቤተ ክርስቲያንን የቀብር ስፍራ አይቶ በሊዝ ሊገዛ ፈለገ። የአዲስ አበባ ባለስልጣናትን ጠርቶ እንዲሸጡለት ጠየቀ። ባለስልጣናቱም መልሰው ሌሎች ቦታዎች ሳያልቁ የቀብር ስፍራ ለግዜው እንደማይሸጡለት ነገሩት። ህንዱ መለሰና መከራቸው። “እኛ አገር ሰው ሲሞት እናቃጥላለን እንጂ አንቀብርም። ለምን ይህን ለም ቦታ ታባክናላችሁ?”
    ባለስልጣናቱ መለሱ፣ “እኛ አገር ደግሞ ሰውን በቁሙ ነው እንጂ ሲሞት አናቃጥልም!“

    Hahahah, let me translate for the benefit of people who don’t understand Amharic, I will try anyways.

    An Indian investor sees a great landscape in Addis and he approaches to a Dedebit official and the Indian expresses his desire to lease the land. The Dedebit official replays; oh no this is a cemetery where we burry dead people. The Indian shoots back; how on earth would you waste such a valuable land just for cemetery; in India we burn dead people not burry. And the Dedebit official responds; Oh, no in Ethiopia we burn people when they are alive not after they die.
    The meaning of burn is here lost in translation. When the Ethiopian official is referring to the burn, is not to mean to set you on fire, what it means is, the neglect, the abuse, the dehumanization, arrest and torture the Ethiopians are enduring on the hand of Tigryans.
    Sort of lol if anyone could translate better; please.
    .

    For the whole article Here is the original in Amharic.
    http://www.ethiomedia.com/10parts/dedebit_travel_debacle.pdf

  • Hope

    Yes,”They have seen/witnessed the Ethiopian Genocide”,,but have opted to be silent/indifferent due to their double standard–and still, and worse,they sanctioned us knowing all the above genocide…with the help of/by the same “Genociders”.
    Beyond Hypocrisy/inhumane–not just a “Double Standard”

    • Abinet

      Hope
      You know the advantage of ethiopians over eritreans? We have moved on while you are chasing your tails and licking your wounds. You will witness it yourself in your upcoming visit to Ethiopia . You don’t find people talking or thinking about eritrea.

  • Nitricc

    Dedebit; when we say Eritrea for Eritreans by Eritreans and rejected your idea of TPLF involvement; it is not just the idea came to us and we said it. it is rooted from our great great grandfathers. I am posting this link in hope to knack some sense in you and you will go and report to Dedebit camp that their idea of controlling Eritrea and to be involved in Eritrean affair is Impossible. And I encourage you to share the link with your handlers.
    I know, Dedebit is always dedebit but try anyways.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HckxblFq4Ts

    • Semere Andom

      The heroism of Eritreans is not on trial, nor the founding principles. So this video with “Baria’s meseneyta” song is irrelevant. Yemane sings “Adey zible tezikru nber, haweltu gedifu ab genet ysefr”, but it is a lie in todays Eritrea. PFDJ and its criminality for hijacking founding principles is under question and on trial. The heroes that PFDJ uses as marketing and braining washing tools, their off springs cannot walk Eritrea free and with pride, that is on indictment and with which we are charging PFDj and its supporters. It is not the history that our fathers defended and removed the tormentors and colonizers that we are advocating to be brought to the court of law, rather it is the incompetence and visionless PFDJ that is putting the security and the defence of the country at risk that is being investigated on the mind of Eritreans. It is not the failure of previous generations of Eritreans to protect and defeat “Debeitawian” that is on trial, it is PFDJ’s invitation of “Debebitawin” and its wanton eradication of our country that is challged. It the roaming of “Debebitawin” in Asmara to round Eritreans that is being shamed. It is not our grand narrative that won against all odds that is being questioned; rather it is failure of PFDJ to live up to its fiduciary with all the opportunities that was offered to it. It is not how we acted/treated the invaders that is challenged, it is how PFDJ is maltreating our citizens on whose behalf those brave forefathers paid dearly

      So irrelevant, redundant and dime a dozen posting that reminds our anguished people how dearly they paid, that their history is reach and fascinating, but they have nothing to show for now after the bands stole it

      Every country has its heroes, its villains and its cowards, the “Debebitawian” also have as impeccable a history as ours and as unsavory villians as PFDJ. It is our villains and the pedestal on which they stand to appear bigger than they are that is on trail to be convicted by the heroes, we are the prosecutors on their behalf.

      It is not the eloquence with which those fathers advocated our behalf that is questioned, it the stuttering and retardation of PFDJ to advocate on behalf of Eritrea that is being challenged to the dismay of people who want to redeem the PFDJ to share heaven that they will create for themselves and to lord over the hell for the rest of us.

      • Mahmud Saleh

        There you go wed abuye Andom
        That’s the right way; one more thing to add: Eritrea is a survivor, and will thrive give the right custodian, chosen by the people, is in the helm. For that to happen it’s prudent we don’t damage the already tested self-confidence of our people. Everything good belongs to the hard working people of Eritrea. Your “dedebitaw democracy” is not a yardstick for our mission, why not aim higher?

        • Hope

          Yes Sir!
          Why NOT AIM the Highest?Haven’t we done it before?

      • Hope

        The Hateta of 2015!
        I REST my case with you,Sir!
        Hiji Kumnegher Cousin Sem…..way beyond Hateta,in fact,the Bitter TRUTH that should be swallowed by all means by all Eritreans!
        If I may add,per your permission,Sir:
        -What is in on TRIAL is the audacity,the ignorance,the indifference,the inaction,the silence,etc—by the Silent Majority knowing and watching all the FACTS you stated unequivoically.
        What a shame on us,Eritreans.
        ” ——-rather it is the incompetence and visionless PFDJ that is putting the security and the defense of the country at risk that is being investigated on the mind of Eritreans. It is not the failure of previous generations of Eritreans to protect and defeat “Debeitawian” that is on trial, it is PFDJ’s invitation of “Debebitawin” and its wanton eradication of our country that is challenged. It the roaming of “Debebitawin” in Asmara to round Eritreans that is being shamed. It is not our grand narrative that won against all odds that is being questioned; rather it is failure of PFDJ to live up to its fiduciary with all the opportunities that was offered to it. It is not how we acted/treated the invaders that is challenged, it is how PFDJ is maltreating our citizens on whose behalf those brave forefathers paid dearly”
        Courtesy of Semere Andom the ” Satirist”!

        • Hope

          Addendum:
          So,it seems that you dropped from the School of YG/Hayat Adem.I give you credit onthis as well!

  • Hayat Adem

    Oh Aman, you are now going down from the high grace of science to a cheap low ‘politics’ with a good help of Nitricc. Well, there is no happy ending when with Nitricc. If science is your interest, you shouldn’t be near him. He is a damn polluter.

    • Semere Andom

      What an oxymoron Dedebitawi science, does that mean if the science is discovered in Dedebit, it is not science. There is one science that was discovered in Dedebit and it is how to transition from rebel to government: it has passed animal trials, second phase clinical trials for the last 23 years now it is in more expanded efficasy human clinical trials and when it is approved, The Nitriccoids will flock to Dedebit asking for Dedebit Permanent residence and citizenship. And if that happens even with the hypocracy it will still e a triuamph for humanity

      • Hope

        I respectfully disagree with you on this ,Sir!
        The Dedebitawi Science has been the source of all evil things.
        That is my major issue with you,Hayat and Haile TG(MIA?).
        Please, the PFDJ and Eritreans are two different entities; and as such,you have to judge them separately.
        Remember that Eritreans have a unique science of bypassing those three phases you mentioned and they will do that overnight once their sole enemy–the Dedebitawin included,are gone for good..

  • Hope

    Mr Guest,
    But why would you care though?And why would it concern you?
    It is a done deal.
    Talk about Peace,Regional Reconciliation and Regional Integration,my man!

  • Mahmud Saleh

    Dear selam
    Please show up as often as you could. That’s my call. We know we have a terrible government, could we show our people we have what it takes to be better than PFDJ in negotiating our differences, in promoting reconciliation, in recognizing that the people will be the ones who will change their fate, not by some self-righteous intellectuals calling “dismantlement” from afar; buried to their height in academic gimmicks. The debate has been between those who make the people the center of any change and those who ignore this fact simply because they have a back up plan B, Emama Ethiopia. It’s thre reflection of these two divergent views that you see clashing here.
    Some of us are convinced that the resistance need to undergo a thorough review of its past journey and learn from its failed dependent strategies, make the people the center, and figure out why it has not attracted the people despite all the myriad failure and stupidity of the regime. Others proudly debate here for a short cut of riding mama Ethiopia. The later called the former reformists. You see where we are screwed up?It’s that simple. The rest is cosmetic. Thank you for your enlightening comments.
    tes:
    Despite some differences between both of us, you are making a huge contribution; I will highlight your strong side. Your answer regarding the NK was mature. The fact that we can describe Eritrea slightly differently but overall agree that it’s a terrible government, hence, our people deserve a better one is a practical way of omitting unnecessary hurdles in our understanding of each other, and it’s a way of moving forward. You are coming to the center, where you should be.

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Dear Awatistas,

    Lessons for today:-

    (1) “Attributing all the blame for the current Eritrean tragedy to a single person – the dictator Isaias Afwerki – or adopting the theory of a one-man regime, a theory subscribed to by many, in particular the former supporters of the regime, is indeed convenient. It is a convenient alternative, as it absolves from any personal responsibility many if not all of those who have in one way or the other contributed to the establishment of the system.” [ Dr. Tedros Gebreluel, 1/27/2015 Asmarino]

    (2) “The EPLF/PFDJ code of conduct developed during the guerrilla era when the end justified the means, is “don´t ask, don´t tell and don´t inquire”. In the EPLP/PFDJ world of Kafkaesque justice, once people are arrested they cease to exist – the henchmen want the victims to be missed by none and forgotten by all.” [Dr. Tedros Gebreluel, 1/27/2015, Asmarino]

    Regards,
    Amanuel Hidrat

    • Abraham Hanibal

      Mr. Amanuel H. and Co.;

      The main and pressing issue for the Eritrean people right now is not for bringing possible criminals to justice at this stage; but rather to create a climate of rule of law, under which cases could be brought against potential criminals in a free court of law. And remember, the rule of law cannot be innstalled from outside, but rather achieved through the full participation of the oppressed people inside the country, including those serving the regime for whatever reasons. We want to create a political system that is based on secularism; that reflects our historic realities, diversities, as well as current and future needs for a peaceful, united and democratic nation. The solutions we devise should be based on our sole choice, and not dictated by or copycatted from foreign systems.

    • Peace!

      Dear Emma,

      Perhaps because we focus on problem rather than solution, every effort has failed to impel action. Yes, there are fundamental differences within the opposition groups; however, those differences should not impede from finding a common ground and create impetus to galvanize and motivate the oppressed Eritreans who are willing to fight agains injustice. It has been over a decade since the problem is clearly identified and can only be cured by a meaningful change, yet no credible solution adopted and put in motion. why?? It seems the opposition groups keep shooting themselves in the foot by creating constraints that keep dragging them to the extent that they can do nothing other than reshuffling leaders and holding countless conferences. So let’s not be too conscious on what individuals are saying or the type of position they are trying to adopt; instead, we should be talking on why noticable progress has not been made?

      Peace!

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Peace,

        Let peace reign among us.

        I will still keep to remind my fellow Eritreans that unless we describe the regime by what it is, we can’t have the right tools to fight it. Can medical professionals cure a disease without having the exact diagnosis of it? I don’t think so. Curing a disease can’t be by try and error, so also socio-political ills.

        Dear Peace, You think we clearly identified our problem collectively. No we didn’t. If some of us believe it Issayas and few lackeys (like the derg use to call us “BeTat Yemi Qeteru” during the liberation time), and others believe it is ” a system” well built in, with pyramidal power structure, we can’t have the right tools to fight it. Because both descriptions of the regime require different approach of tackling them. Hence there is no “unity of purpose” nor strategy for success to our people in our grasp.

        Second to have a unity of purpose and strategy for success, we can’t solve it in a medium like this. It ought to be in a round table. This forum is only to educate the public and make them the “force of influence” to dictate the leaders of the stakeholders to resolve their problem; whereby, could usher the public with a common purpose to defeat the enemy of the people. I believe the political debate is doing its purpose to increase the consciousness of the public and arm them with necessary political tools. If you see our debates we don’t see the regime with the same lens to identify the regime as a totalitarian regime. Therefore, until we are able to define the regime exactly, we can’t proceed with the same purpose, and our house will remain a “divided house.” That is our reality now; and how far it will go like this or resolve soon, strictly depend on our sincerity and maturity of the possible leadership we could have. Our struggle needs a lot of adjustment, tolerance, and good wills to resolve it positively.

        • Fnote Selam

          Hi Amanuel,

          Do you think people will ever come to agree on the exact description of the regime in power in Eritrea besides that regime being really brutal and bad for Eritrea? IMO, like most things in life, people ( I am taking people in the opposition) will continue to have a range of understandings with regards to the structure of the regime.

          Best wishes,

          FS.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear Fnote Selam,

            On the approach how to solve it, we expect different opinions until we come to the round table to sort out and make certain compromises. But to define the nature of the regime for “what it stands and its value system” and how it suffocate our people, we should agree without ups and down, unless there are some who are sympathetic to its value system within the opposition camp. Anyway we shall see how it will precipitate.

            Regards,
            Amanuel Hidrat

          • Fnote Selam

            Dears Amanuel,

            I think most people in the opposition camp are in the opposition because they ‘oppose’ the current govt in Eritrea. But, people will continue to have varied understanding of ‘what it stands and its value system’. Depending on what they know, their personal experience etc, some will consider it a one man problem, others will see it as a group of evil persons, others will consider everything about PFDJ (some even include EPLF) and anything associated with it as absolutely nefarious and abhorrent, and so on so forth. The question is, what kind of perceptions about PFDJ from other people do you find tolerable?

            THanks,

            FS.

        • Peace!

          Hi Emma,

          I am sure you have heard when our neighbors say “Awaki Sibeza B’eshteGna Y’motal” I am afraid we are in that type of dilemma. Here we have a severely bleeding and in excruciating pain patient seeking for help desperately, but doctors, unfortunately, do not seem to agree what to do first despite the conventional wisdom says stop the bleeding and give anti pain medicine first before any major diagnostics can take place, and then once the patient feels a bit better and able to answer questions, proper diagnostic proceeds to find out the root cause of the problem. In the end, it will be up to the patient to give his consent or seek second opinion to what doctors recommended.

          Now, who do you think is responsible for the bleeding? Stopping the bleeding means freeing the people from the brutal dictator whose decisions are responsible for the endless suffering of our people. Once the decision maker is removed, then the people can at least share their opinion and help in framing the needed solution . Don’t you think so?

          peace!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear Peace,

            First I like your way of engagement, no matter we have slight difference on how to handle the process of emancipating our people. Let me give you just one example from the many and from the past promises of the same organization (EPLF/PFDJ) that is governing our country. According EPLFites, the purpose of the civil war, with the alliance of foreign force to eject ELF from the field, was end the squabbles between the two organizations and to focus the enemy. But when Eritrea is liberated we will call them to participate in the political process and nation building. Albeit, when Eritrea is liberated we were told that there is no “hashewie Nay Wudubat” by their leader. The same echo was roaring from all corners of Eritrea by the rank and files as well as by their mass organizations. We were denied every thing as political entities in the nation we gave our share. Should we have allowed in the process equally with them, the Eritrean reality could have been different from the current reality.

            So brother, if we don’t create a mechanism that gives hope to the Eritrean people, the stakeholders of future Eritrea, and anything that hold the fabric of our coexistence, it will be “wedi demu kemQedemu.” We can’t let it to happen the same story now. Even the Eritrean people are looking not only the removal of the regime but also for the removal of the current political culture of PFDJ – the value system that emasculate the culture of tolerance and the cultural value of our society. Until we design “a common purpose” for now and the future, built on trust to supercede the betrayals of the past, Eritrea is really in danger that no one can predict on how we end from the current dilemma. The idea of single man institution and few enablers by supporters of EPLFites is hindering us from having meaningful struggle to emancipate our people. Until we admit that the political system installed in Eritrea is solid and well organized, and launch a formidable force to challenge it and to finally defeat it, we will live in the same vicious cycle, and eventually the nation will be emptied of its youth. That is clearly starring in our face. So simply, let us go to remove the despot without a common purpose for now and the future is deceiving tactic to say the least.

            Regards,
            Amanuel Hidrat

          • Peace!

            Dear Emma,

            I totally understand what you are saying, and I commend you for your eloquent suggestion although a strategy that’s genuine in design is not necessary genuine in effect. Our problem is too complicated, and yes, earlier factors contribute to the dilemma at hand. However, that does not mean the only way to solve our problem is to impose or prescribe ideas and strategies while our people, the integral part of the solution, are under siege. Most medicines do not cure disease but help body cure itself. The same logic can be applied that it is not wise for the opposition groups to try to solve our problems, but instead, helping people to solve their own problems should be their primary goal, and I think the first viable step for that is to remove Issayas.

            peace!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear Peace,
            You peace, Eritrea is not liberated without the organized political organizations that existed during that era. The political organizations are born from the people and hence they become the vanguard of the struggle. Even “the so called people” in your mind want to fight the current struggle they out to have an organized vanguard to lead them which will take the same route the current oppositions are taking. So the political process is the same thing. But if you are saying the current opposition are void and you want to start with clean slate and I don’t know what your clean slate in such diversity like ours will be. Political organizations are formed to solve the problem of the people they are not able in the current situation, at the end of the day political organizations will lead in removing the regime be it new or old or being from inside or outside. Unorganized people without a vanguard organization to lead them, will remain in the chain of of oppression, so long they remain to be so. A simple example is, EPLF without being well organized political organization couldn’t liberate Eritrea and couldn’t stay in power this long, and will continue to be so, until a formidable organization mobilize the people to rally around it and defeat it. That is the formula how of socio-politics works, unless the alternative, which is sitting in round table and believing in “the give and take” of political process substitute it. If you are also looking for spontaneous movement what we somtimes call it “mass movement,” then that in it self is a loser without an organized leadership taking the form of an organized vanguard. So this way or that an opposition without a ” organized vanguard” and the “support of the people” is doomed to fail. Both factors are indispensable in the success of a political struggle.
            Regardss,
            Amanuel Hidrat

          • Tesfabirhan WR

            Dear Peace!

            The thing is, some doctors are describing the bleedings as natural, just like that of menstruation cycle and hence they just want to give anti-pain medicine. Some want to temporarily stop the bleeding, some want to escape from the bleeding because it is horrible and uncurable. Some want to make full diagnosis. Some are even not sure for the bleeding and are looking for symptoms as they are not able to differentiate it between wine and blood (the blood scukers), some are letting the blood the pour as they can make business from it, some thought that they couldn’t see the bleeding as they are already drunk, some want to divide the blood and water the land, and very few are struggling hard to stop the bleeding.

            In fact, the last group are almost getting neglidgible as they could not step an inch because of the many interventions. The biggest challenge facing the patient is, the doctors who jsut want to stop bleeding temporarily are intervening very much. And the blood sucker; aka, vampire can’t live without blood. Blood there is a hope that at least if bleeding stops temporarily, he can hibernate within.

            Another disturbing condition is, the hospital is controlled from remote and thanks to IT, it is not that much difficult to operate the operartion. The doctors have all PhD are locally known specialists. But, the blood sucker is there and is already sucking at high amount. What a tradegy, poor patient and this blood sucker has unlimited intake capacity where it is even becoming a threat to the doctors who are doing the operation from remote.

            tes

          • Peace!

            Dear Tes,

            The point here is not about doctors or hospitals, but it is about following proper procedure given the patient’s life is at stake.

            regards

          • Tesfabirhan WR

            Dear Peace!

            Peace be up on us!!

            You wrote, “”Awaki Sibeza B’eshteGna Y’motal”” and if I understood you very well there are many who know the disease, and patient is only one. And I am talking all mentioned as awakawyan (those who know it) are not upto the patients demand. They are just spending to take the patient from one hospital to another when there is no need take him even to their specialist hospitals but visit the patient and take care of him. I can say, the patient is in the hands of gohelalau and the true doctor is far behind as his hospital is far enough to reach the doctor.

            END
            —————
            I wish the doctors had come together and flfill the demand of the patient all together. But this is not the case. Those who want to suck the blood are to strong and they want the patient as he is now, they look careless for his survival. Those who want to stop the bleeding temporarily look much welcomed by the patient as it is aurgent issue and the patient need them badly. Even the blood suckers have already sucked more than enough and can serve them for a while during their hibernation period. They have no doubt that they will one day re-open the pipeline and continue to suck the blood and hence another suffering. Those who do business and research have collected enough data and they want time either to use the wealth accumulated or to analyse the data gathered. And the one who is expected to diagonize the patient is still barking from behind, from afar, and his help will be alsmost useless as he looks already that he is lagging behind.

            The patient really needs a complete cure but what to do, he has to stop bleeding at least temporarily.

            —–END
            tes

          • Abraham Hanibal

            Hi Peace;
            You’re making very good points and a fitting description of the situation. As you say, we know the disease, that’s crippling our nation-the Isayas regime. And hence the natural remedy, should be to remove that disease, no need of experimentations and squabbles on terminologies. Issues concerning what type of political system we would build, is not a priority issue or matter of urgency now, bacause as you said, this is the dominion of the patient-the Eritrean people.

      • Hope

        Peace,
        Peace be upon you.
        You nailed it.
        Our debate and struggle should be “Solution oriented” as we know/IDied all our problems and this has been my appeal to Mr Aman Hidrat,who openly declared to us that he has NO suggestions for soultions to/for our problems,after Akhlilu Zere’ challenged him–in defense of his friend, Saleh Younis.
        That has been as well my apeal to the AT ;and to his credit,Cousin Saleh Younis has done a superb job on this,where he has provided us with ample possible,realistic,more practical,balanced,etc…approaches,way better than those of the so called self-appointed Experts in Crisis/Conflict Rsolution.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Agreed or disagreed my proposals are already at awate.com’s file. I don’t recall his name, but I read something from a writer’s note that might help you in the future and that is ” A lair ought to have a good memory.” Otherwise, it will be a challenge to your integrity. Just an advice.

          Regards,
          Amanuel Hidrat

          • Hope

            Aman,
            Wether I am a liar or not,I stand firm om my Principle that we should focus on solutions/preventions,cures,etc—-rather than doing duplicate work ups/investigations,—too many diagnsotic tests including CT Scans,MRIs,unessential blood work ups,Xarys…since these are but a mess and leads to no where other than inkililo to the extent of giving up –the exact situation we are in.
            That is why I like the Canadian and evenThird World Apporach of Medicine where Clinicians trust and depend on their skills,just simple Stethoscope and basic Work ups-eventhough it has to do with lack of Med technology inthe case of the latter one.
            Hope you will listen to Peace.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          I believe Saay is one of the “opinion makers” in this website and he is not “officially-appointed-expert”. And I don’t think Saay believes himself the way you see him. Hence, Saay like all others in this website, is an “opinion maker” for public consumption that is all. Accordingly “retail politicians” might or might not consider his political argument or proposal. I hope you will understand now what “opinion makers” mean. Take it as a class for today my friend.

          • Hope

            Sir,
            SAAY officiallyy said so that he knows his limitations.
            My point was that his opinions have been well accepted and endorsed by the majority.I do not beilieve in Human Perfection either,but in the Divine one!
            Giving credit to where it belongs does NOT mean considering people as “Perfect” or Superior.
            Everything is relative, and relatively speaking,SAAY has done a Superb Job….

  • Semere Andom

    The Life Of An Eritrean: A Point Of View

    “Kitwlledel enkeloka bkindey tsebeba kitmewit keleka bmitrro alleba,” is a line that is seared to my mind and I have no clue who wrote or sang it. A succinct summary of the capricious life and violent birth and death of human being. The triumph and tribulations of a human life is richer and or more difficult than this lyric/line captures. For an Eritrean it is even more tragic.

    In the last 100 years of the existence of the country as an entity its citizens or in the parlance of PFDJ, its dwellers/inhabitants have lived through misery and melancholy. When the Eritrean identity was being crystalized in the bosom of the Federal crucible, the armed struggle was sparked to prevent the ruining of the beautifully crescendoeing identity when Ethiopia forcibly annexed Eritrea. It was a myopic move that is haunting both nations now. There are false assertion from many an Eritrean that if Eritrea have been granted Independence things would have been better.This cannot be proved, but given the outcome of the vote, we could have faced a civil war between the Low lands and Highland and Federation was not the worst thing that happened to Eritrea. Had the Federal arrangement taken its own course, the chaotic political debates and different interest groups that were germinating would have served both nations well in nurturing the pillars of civilized and democratic culture, searing the ideals that are now elusive into our lexicon and thought process, informing us on how to solve the myriad societal problems that face nascent nations. The problem was not in the Federal arrangement per se, but in the short sightedness of the the King and his men, a mental disorder with no known cure or corrective measures.

    The fear that the forming Eritrean identity would eventually yield and independent Eritrea is what trigged the annexation. It backfired. That may well be, given the themes of that era, but Ethiopia burned its bridges before crossing it by dismantling autonomous Eritrea. Reconstructing that bridge in the near future as far as the eye can see seems to be impossible, but if Federal armament was given a chance the bloodshed, the carnage and epic destruction that created the dilapidated society could have been averted. Broadly, we say that the annexation trigged the armed struggle, but unpacking that statement, you will find swaddled in it the armed struggle was about redeeming the basic inalienable dignity and human right issue. When Eritrean naturally rebelled the annexation, the regime reacted brutally, the revolutionaries upped the ante and so did the cruel king who is ironically held as a mystical figure by some. The brutality that infringed in the very dignity of the people backfired big time.

    The Eritrean armed struggle went through infancy, exuberant adolescence, never really maturing to responsible adult. By 1991, it was mighty and feisty, talked the talked without walking the walk of justice to appease the parent, the people. It skipped adulthood and middle age. Now helming the country is a jaded, myopic and brutal regime despite is frailty regime, infringing the very dignity and the honor of Eritreans with even more heinous implement. The life of an Eritrean is a cycle of birth, death and then still-born death.

    Since there was no overwhelming support for the union the Eritrean government became a coalition and when HS used his lackeys to change the name of the then Eritrean government to Eritrean Administration. The opportunity cost for both nation is astronomical as life left them to the dust when they duked it for dusty territories and sea access that could have being settled amicably with foresight and due process. Yet again the lessons we fail to glean from recent history are manifested in our current almost anguished desire to be steeped in the same cycle even as the need for reconciliation is dire and glaring opportunities arise to lift our people from a century of destitution. As Eritreans we have removed a vicious murdered and installed a more brutal regime that stands tall on the shoulders of the former tormentors. The autistic opposition has failed to distill its vision and strategy to remove the current tormentors

    • Mahmud Saleh

      Sem Hfoonay
      This is a heck of a Hateta man. A nice summary; but I suspect half-cousin Hope will note be happy for denying the great Alamin Abdelatif the credit he deserves. It’s his song, not sure who wrote the lyrics.

      • Hope

        Yep Mahmouday,it is unfair.
        Nittric,please be so kind to re-load Al’amin Abdeltif’s Song you just “chopped us recently.
        “Seb Ni’khebdu tiray aykonin zinebir,kihaseb alewo kighmimit kizitti—Kitwiled kelokha bikhindey tsebeba,kitmewit kelekha bi’metro aleba(remember Aleba=piece of white cloth people get wrapped up when they die–Abreham-clarified it to you.)

        • Nitricc

          For uncle Hope with love
          Eritrea-Tigre song by Alamin Abdulatif- الفنان الارتري الامين عبد اللطيف: http://youtu.be/nBs5TGrQ8nc

      • Semere Andom

        ላም ዓለኩም ሰኒ መየኩም ይቤላ

        ሕፉናይ እንደ ልብል ጠልቓ

        ሰባሕ ኣልኼር ማ ኢበኤላ

        ሕፉናይ እንደቤላ እትናፈራ

        ላሓውላ ዎ ላቅወታ

        ሚገብኣ ሓማዳ

        ኣሃ አዘ ኣመርኮ ምስል ናይትሪካይ እትሃጀካ

        ዎ ድራሰት ሽውዕየት እግላ ኣትመማ

        ማሕሙዳይ ትንታነ ዶ ሓተታ

        ክሓተካ ዶ ክጥይቅካ

        አብ ጽልእኻ ኣየው ዕልና

        አብ ፍታውካ ይጸምብርና

        ንፍሽኽታ እዪ ንፈገግታ

        ሰንስ ኦፍ ሁመር እንተዝይብልካ

        ደሓን መልስ ብግይጽታ

        • Mahmud Saleh

          Sem, Hope, Gual Adem, Nitrickay

          Let’s have some Hadnetawi party here; half cousin Hope in response to Semere’s failure to give the great Ustaz Alamin the credit he deserved has made me get you guys this song. I could not get “seb nkebdu..”, Who knows we may see Nitrickay and Gual Adem hitting the floor.

          This is from his earliest songs. krbaj ttlewale kem Halengi

          He symbolizes the slenderness and agility of a beautiful lady by the twisting, bending, rotating and swirling of a whip/belt. Alaamnin is singing live on stage; and apparently, there is a beautiful lady dramatizing the beautiful lady he is singing for. The problem, she doesn’t understand what he is saying and why he’s getting crazy. Therefore, it seems she is getting annoyed and scared by the unwanted attention the singer is giving her. At the end a bad interpreter tries to help her understand that the singer is spellbound by her beauty, and has been badly wacked up by her that he would do everything to get her.

          I could not get semeres’s song, so hopefully, this one will do it.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LoTiQkfHBo

          • Nitricc

            Mahmuday. Are you looking for this one. You see the toothless thinks i don’t know about Eritrea.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            A song of all time with no boundary.

          • Nitricc

            Aman aside the patriatic songs; i fond it this song to be the deepest. It makes you think and look things inside out. It challnges you in the human side of life.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Niktrikay,
            Yep, It was sang in mid 60s when I was young. The only song – it will ever live in my life as timeless song. It has humanity message and reminds us that life is sharing with what we have. It randomly rings in my mind and keep singing it.There is no substitute for it as to its message.

          • Mahmud Saleh

            There you go, nitrikay. And who said nitrikay doesn’t know what he is talking about?

          • Hope

            Tnx Nittric little Bro/Nephew Tsa’eda!
            Second Mr Amanuel Hidrat.

    • Dear Semere Andom,

      A nice comment and an informing one. Nevertheless, you seem to have put annexation at the heart of the Ethio-Eritrean problem of the time, and the triggering factor for the armed struggle. I would therefore like to ask you the following questions:
      Given the fact that according to the federal arrangement, “a) Eritrea will be an autonomous unit federated with Ethiopia under the Ethiopian crown, b) the Eritrean government will be responsible in the fields of domestic affairs (local police, taxation, domestic functions, services, and budget), c) the federal government which resides in the Ethiopian capital under the crown, will be responsible for foreign affairs, currency, foreign trade, administration of the ports, and will have the responsibility to maintain the integrity of the federation, etc,

      1) Do you think that this federal arrangement would have continued to satisfy Eritreans, both Christians and Muslims alike?
      2) Do you exclude the possibility that there were as well foreign interests working from behind the scene, the cause of the Eritrean revolution was not solely the emperor abrogating on the federal arrangement, in which some Eritrean participated in a supportive manner, and federation or annexation, Gedli would have happened anyway?

      Regards.

      • Mahmud Saleh

        Dear Horizon
        You raised good questions, and although semere should be the one answering them, as a bad friend of mine, it won’t hurt his ego if I volunteer trying my best.
        1. The simple answer is we don’t know since the federation was short lived because of the kings abrogated the act. However, there is some truth to your suspicion. The struggle between the unionists and independence seekers continued behind the door. Even unionists such as Tedla Bayru who was the first president of Eritrea started pushing back on some of the flagrant violations of the king’s envoy in Asmara and the unionist movement which was pushing things too fast towards total unification. Most of the politicians representing the Unionist Bloc were for a federal arrangement and not for a total Union, at least at that time, and they were keen to keep the autonomy of Eritrea along the lines of the act, in spirit and practice. But remember Haraka ShawaEte or the EDM) had already been established before the actual annexation. Think of the annexation as a gradual encroachment that resulted in the final desolution of the parliament.
        2. The influence of foreign forces could not be ruled out any where in such a situation. However, knowing that the majority of Kebesa people welcomed the Federal arrangement in the first place, I would like you to ask yourself, “what made the Kebesa people turn away from the king?” According to your theory, if it were due to foreign forces, and it’s not hard to guess that you are referring to the Arab world, you would see the Muslim part rebelling while the Christian/Kebesa part sticking with the king. Like in any movement Ghedli was the result of the failure of political talks with the king and his envoy coupled with peaceful petitions and demonstrations lead by Hareka/MaHber ShawaEte. It started where it could get a base (lowlands) but soon was joined by Kabesa people. Why would Kabessa people, whose majority is reported to have backed the Union, fight and die in such a number if ghedli was the conspiracy of Muslim Arab? Just points to think of.
        Regards.

        • Thank you a lot for your response, Mahmud Saleh. It is important that we learn why things went so wrong between Ethiopians and Eritreans that brought the dreadful situation under which the two people were forced to live over the last half century. Abrogation of the
          federal arrangement, geopolitical interest of Arab nations, and later on, that of the super powers, were presented as factors that have played a role in the initiation and sustenance of the Ethio-Eritrean conflict. It seems that
          multiple factors should have been responsible than one single reason.
          Regards.

          • Fnote Selam

            Dear Horizon,

            Just want commend you on your level-headed approach to have a better understanding of what happened between Eritrea and Ethiopia. I used to have dogmatic opinion on the matter, but since I began exploring the topic, I am developing (my understanding is still evolving) a more nuanced opinion. One might say, what is the point of revisiting things that happen over 50 years ago or given the dismal situation under IA, it might seem almost a pointless topic, but regimes come and go and IA is not staying in power forever. Also, nations and countries go through a lot of transformation, sometime within short time period. What doesn’t change is the fact that people in our region will continue to be neighbors and we ought be good neighbors for the good of each other. Having said that, a more gracious understanding of what happened some 50 years ago is important for people in both countries to move forward together. We really don’t have to agree on every aspect of it, but we can manage to understand each others point of view.

            Best wishes,

            FS.

          • Dear Fnote Selam,

            Your point “….people in our region will continue to be neighbors and we ought be good neighbors for the good of each other.”, should be at the center of our discussions whenever we discuss future Ethio-Eritrean relations. We are condemned by fate to be neighbors, whether we like it or not, and we would be forced in the future to cooperate on matters of common interest for the good of our people. This is what matters most to the ordinary Eritrean and Ethiopian. Those who try to put Ethiopia and Eritrea on two different planets, and say that they have nothing to do with each other, are people who want to satisfy their selfish egos. The
            way of confrontation is the way trodden by the elites, who have nothing to lose, and may even have something to gain out of it.
            Two poor countries that have poverty as a common enemy, in perpetual confrontation and self-destruction, is what a rational human being fails to understand.
            Regards.

      • Semere Andom

        Dear Horizon:
        Thanks for your questions here is how I see it:
        Since like almost all countries in Africa, Eritrea was the creation of the Europeans, like almost all of them it is a country that was needled together. It is hard to fathom Africa will have the same landscape in terms of the how the countries are made up without the European slicing and dicing the continent. I would think that we would have more homegenous countries based on more salient commonalties and ethnicities.

        Eritrea, the needled nation that it is s diverse and the jelling of the nationalism that I mentioned was to permeate the permanence and harden the needed part. The Moslems naturally and rightly feared the melting pot of the Crown, the Christian centered Crown with no respect for diversity; it believed in the Trinity of God but believed the oneness of the people. And hence their apprehension was warranted. The Crown did nothing to genuinely quell their angst and based on this I am a believer that the Eritrean revolution was an organic expression of the aspirations of at least half of the Eritrean population to begin with. But foreign interference cannot be ruled out once the revolt/resistance commenced in earnest, but I do not believe foreign elements were the reason for that spark. Maybe the armed struggled opened political “markets” for some foreigners to capitalize, very possible. If the Federal arrangement was not abrogated by the King, it would have still not satisfied both Christian and Moslems, the revolution would have started anyway. Some kind of armed resistance was inevitable because the Eritrean identity was already fermenting, nothing would have stopped that. The annexation hastened the commencement of armed struggle, but the protracted jelling of the Eritrean identity was already in the cusp of explosion. The abrogation acted as a catalyst to bolster the vigor. The distinct Eritrean identity was already created and if the referendum was a barometer, half of Eritreans opposed the Union. Having said that if the Federation was allowed to finish its course and half of Eritreans (Christians) felt respected and saw their interests were aligned with the Union, they would have still voted in favor of the Union and the Moslems in favor of independence and we would have gone through that democratic cycle of democratic process, repeating not a vicious cycle of wide spread of violence but a gentle cycle promising culture of tolerance and democratic process. If Ethiopia did not target the civilians in Barak villages, the crucible of the armed struggle to futilely squash the revolution, I believe the popularity of the armed struggled would have been dismantle and Ibrahim Sultan’s prophetic words would not have that prophetic. Outside interest cannot be ruled out both after the revolution was started and in outcome of the referendum, as I believe that the Kebessa vote was also some how compromised by money, power and intimidation by the Unionist. Even if it would not have been a landslide I still think that the Kebessa would still have voted in favor of the Union, the revolution would still have began albeit later.

        When the HS tightened to noose to stop the revolution in its tracks, the revolutionaries with the slogans liberty and human dignity under their belt upped the ante. If God was speaking to HS as some claim, the Holly sprit would have told him not to abolish Federation and treat the people of Eritrea both Moslems and Christians humanely even with the advent of the “trouble makers, those who were agitating for the armed struggle. Federation would have expired and the people would have used the ballot box to determine their fate and most likely the Kebessa would have voted in favor of the Union and Moslems for separation, the cycle would have continued, life would have resume the “trouble makers and Arab sellout” would have made trouble, people would have chosen life to death, prosperity to poverty, boom to bust.
        The leaders of Ethiopia made another mistake when Dergi came to power, his brute totally galvanized the Christians to support the armed struggle and they joined its ranks overwhelming the budding organizations. The often quoted HS Ethiopian verse, “we are only interested Eritrean ports not its people” was finally internalized and Christians got the message and said “tokermika mote asafikha mote”, might as well die doing something historic. That to my mind was when the revolution crossed the chasm, capitalizing on the stupidity prone Ethiopia of that time. Even with its inhume treatment and the documented heinous crimes against Eritreans, the Eritrea revolution would not have succeed if Ethiopia treated its own with dignity. Eritrean armed struggled was helped by the different armed groups, even with its popularity that was sealed after 1975, the armed struggled would not have crashed mighty Ethiopia without the help of Ethiopians. Before 1991, Ethiopia was not only the worst enemy of Eritreans, but also the worst enemy of its people and of itself, that helped seal its fate as a landlocked country that had an opportunity to own not one but two ports?
        The Kebessa invested their demographic lottery, every bit of it into the revolution, they had no choice and a potential winner was born, the luck of the Kebessa rubbed off to the revolution when with brutality Ethiopia murdered its own at a rate of 500 per week for 3 years and the Ghedli won a lottery when it found alliance in the different Ethiopians movements that were working for the same goal of removing Dergi.

        The foreign interest concept feeds off the fallacy that Eritreans for some reason decides to create new identity to purge their “Ethiopianess. This is still popular among Ethiopian. It is a travesty. It ignores that HS and Dergi were both brutal regimes hat complimented each other with different styles, alienated people. This thinking also ignores that both the regimes were imposing their culture and religion on the extremely diverse countries of Ethiopia and Eritrea. Identity is a complex issue, it is made up of tapestry of layers: themes, belongings and feelings that evolve over years and centuries..

        • Dear Semere Andom,

          Thank you a lot for your broad and in-depth response on why things went wrong between Ethiopians and Eritreans. Please correct me if I am wrong. These
          are the lessons I have drawn from your comment:
          1) A Christian Ethiopia under a divine emperor was not attractive to followers of the Muslim religion,
          2) Foreign interference existed at least after the spark of the revolt/resistance, and outside interests cannot be ruled out in the Eritrean revolution.
          3) If at least the interest of half of Eritreans (Christians) were respected, the Union could have been saved somehow.
          4) The hard handedness of the Ethiopian armed forces in the lowlands was detrimental to the concept of Union, and the brutality of the Dergue galvanized Christians to join the revolt.
          5) Eritrean armed struggle was helped by the different Ethiopian armed groups, and without this help, Eritrean revolution would have not succeeded.
          6) Ethiopia brought its own failure, through the foolish actions of the different rulers of Ethiopia,
          7) Cultural and religious domination of diverse entities was not accepted.
          8) The formation and manifestation of the Eritrean identity (as opposed to the Ethiopian identity) would have brought the spark of revolt, even if the Federal arrangement were in place. The abrogation was simply a catalyst and not the cause.

          I wish others participated with their input, as Semere Andom and Mahmud Saleh have done, because it is important to have a clear opinion on what really
          went wrong. Different people have different opinions on how/why Ethio-Eritrean problem started, and no single view-point seems to be the only one. The right diagnosis might lead us to the right therapy (A.H.).

          Regards.

          • Abinet

            Selam Horizon
            Eritrea was advanced under the real colonizers (Italy ) . Asmara was really a metropolitan city compared to Addis. There were more factories . As Vet Mahmud once told me Ethiopia was backward . So eritreans , according to YG , didn’t want to share that advancement with ethiopians.
            For some , specially the kebesas, their hate towards Amhara should not be forgotten as one of the causes. When you hate others more than you love yourself coupled with the involvement of the Arabs , is dangerous combination .
            There is no denying mistakes were made by the king. There were also atrocities . However, look what IA has been doing for the last 2 decades . He is expected to do the same in the the future. But you don’t see a real and organized opposition at all . accordingly to Ato Amanuel they are still diagnosing the problem.
            My point? If they are not able to diagnose their current problem, what does it matter if they diagnose the causes of our problem 50+ years ago .
            20 years to diagnose, another 20 to organize based on the diagnosis , 20 years more to fight . By then IA will be 130 years old and quietly abdicate his power.
            But look it didn’t take them a moment to diagnose, organize and fight the ethiopians.
            Unique people indeed as my friend Hope like to call himself .

          • Semere Andom

            Selam Abinet:
            There are no real or iamgined colonizers. A colonizer is a colonize is a colonizer. Period! We never claimed that we invented the concrete that built Asmara or we never bragged about how we discovered the iron and steel that made the rail roads. We never claimed that we brought industrialization. But fact is by the time of Federation, Eirrea was more industrialized that Ethiopia. This is not necessarily good, it jus is.. It did us more harm than good in may respects.
            The hate towards Amharas is not inborn, it was nurtured. For us the Amharas were the Torserawiit who killed people, burned villages, gutted pregnant women stole property and you would not expect people to love their tormentors. We did not just hate them out of the blue. The tendency of some Ethiopians to downplay the crimes of Ethiopian regimes is disgusting to say the least. Cousin Hope can say whatever he wants, but no one is especial, we are all special, if one is special, it means the other special, you cannot be special if others are not special. We are special, but we are not the only special. We are not superior.
            Now do not pull that PFDJ line on us, “there were mistakes,” they were not mistakes, they were deliberate, moronic and demonic attempt to cleanse Eritreans and it backfired, so if there was hate towards you, If you have lost the port, it is the myopic actions of your then leaders. It is also not right to blame every Ethiopian as a criminal, but the two regimes were brutal and for that we hated them and we revenged, we cannot be expected to give the other cheek.
            About not revolting against IA, well we are, times have changed and were are waging timely resistance. It took us 30 years to get rid of you Ethiopians, give us some time. IA has not burned entire villages so far. He is a student of that era so he changed his MO and he does his red terror in dead of the night, Dergi and HS were stupid and they did their terror in broad day light. Our current enemy is insidious Dergi and HS were in your face. So you should compare apples to apples before insulting entire people as slaves “wannabe.”

          • Abinet

            Selam Sem
            First of all I did not call you “slave wannabe .” If you call yourself as such, I have no objection at all.
            –IA doesn’t need to burn villages yet. But, let’s wait and see his reaction if you start any kind of armed resistencia .
            –I agree hate is not inborn but nurtured. However, if you inculcate it in the minds of the young, it is as good as inborn.
            According to Hope a 5th grader eritrean knows the atrocities done by the king. If you teach this for a 10 years old child, what kind of citizens are you producing ? Except a bitter and a hater citizen.
            It took you 30 years to get rid of us . Again, congratulations!!
            I only wish you did it much earlier . It is also our independence.
            –Please stop mentioning the ports. It is not 1998. We have managed to survive and moving forward.
            Regarding removing IA, I wish you good luck.

          • Semere Andom

            Hi Abinet:
            You mocked Eritreans for not revolting against IA even with this heinous crimes against them while they rebelled against the Amaras, so I summarized it for your in two words: “slave wannabes”
            So history should not be thought? Also Hope is not the authority in Eritrean studies. so stop quoting him to make your points
            And you are still mocking Eritran for taking them 30 years as if it did not take a century of destitution, backwardness of praying to a King like what was in Europe just before the Rennasance. Struggle and success have their own time zones, so stop telling us we are behind in resisting and eradicating IA like the brutal regimes over whose shoulders he stand
            I did not say IA did not burning villages, unlike your regimes who did it in broad day light, IA does it in secret, so it is hard for the people to know easily except those who were the victims. I am on record saying PFDJ supporters that IA is exactly like Dergi and HS just because you do not see red terror in the streets and villages burning in life. Please do not keep telling us about our problems we know them better than you, if you can help if not try to dissect the issues like Horizon is doing.
            I am on record sharing my giddiness for Tigrayans success to lift themselves from the indignity and shine, it something everyone human being should celebrate and they have done that with out the ports, I know that. But it is still in the minds of many Ethiopians and it is not a far fetched idea that if someone with those sentiments comes to power before the fact that Ethiopia does not need the Eri ports to succeed is permanently burned in the minds of most Ethiopians, it is an issue that we as Eritreans must be preoccupied with, not with obsession and lies like the PFDJ does of course.
            What is your take on the Amharic movie, “ye bar ber?”

          • Abinet

            Selam Sem
            You sound angry today. I said it took you 30 years to get rid of us . I only wish you did it much earlier. What is wrong with this statement ? It would have been much better if you did it in 1965 than in 1991.
            I’m not mocking you at all . I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. I’m still mad at my former leaders for keeping you with us. You are absolutely right both past regimes were extremely stupid to give this much value for eritrea instead of getting rid of her. It is their over valuation that gave you extreme ego and arrogance.
            I did not see the movie you mentioned . I don’t have any interest to watch or read anything about the port. It is a done deal . You have to beg as and compete with the neighboring ports for us to use the rusted ports . The burden is on you . As long as we pay for it , we have newer and better options at our disposal .
            Genzeben yichneqew yilal abesha.
            Thank you .

          • Semere Andom

            Hi Abi:
            Do not confuse anger with bluntness, there a bold line 😉
            For sure you have better option, you always had better options. It boils down to leadership and vision to see that. You have a track record of producing bad leaders, so blind to see the better options that was conspicuous to the naked eye, that is how blind they were, Ethiopia can produce such leaders again. It pays to not be ocky with your success, doing pulling something once may well be a fluke, repeating it is the real test. Just brotherly advice, Sir.
            So, Ethiopia will be tested on the basis of not only sustaining its current success, but in improvingt and repeating it. And the same goes on its ability to offer leaders with foresight and vision.

          • Hope

            Abi,
            Be humble,respect yourself and learn the truth from your own honest Horizon.
            One of the major factors we have failed is coz you are still messing around in our business.
            If you stay away from us and from our own internal problems,that will shorten the duration of the Struggle,which you do NOT want to do so for the sake of your own old dreams.
            BTW,the negative role of PIA in our business is NOT different from that of the TPLF’s or Ethiopia’s negative role.Wether it was sarcastically or seriously said,you already admitted to me that there is an on-going conspiracy of PIA and the Demhit…and we Eritreans have taken this seriously,albeit belatedly due to our naive and trusting nature.
            The past is the past and we achieved the first phase of Freedom and we are working on the second Phase of it.
            The reason it has taken us more than it should to dismantle our own insider enemey is coz…it is our problem from within us as compared to overt and occupying enemy…simple!Isn’t it,Abi?
            Let me ask you a question with a simple analogy:
            -The TPLF with only six million people have controlled Ethiopia with 80 million people and used and abused Ethiopia resources mercilessly.How about that?
            Why should it take you 24yrs to be abused by only 6 million?
            Do NOT tell me that you are doing well.

          • Abinet

            My best cousin Hope
            You are a bit contradicting yourself. First you said it is ethiopian involvement that prohibit you from removing IA. Then you said it is internal problem that prohibits you from removing him . Nefse, make up your mind.
            The conspiracy about demhit , I made it up and you believed me. That is why I call you “Hope gerageru.” How do you blieve when I tell you ethiopia send demhit to control eritrea and protect IA. We don’t need an army or demhit to control eritrea. We just order IA and eritrean defense force to surrend. Easy as that .
            Your last point regarding tplf is funny. You said how 6 million people abuse ethiopian resources ? You know what? They were 12 million before you left. The remaining 6 million are proud ethiopians . Besides , it is not new for them to be leaders. They have died for my country. Atse Yohannes died for me .My favorite Ras Alula died for me . BTW , my son’s name is Alula. Your effort to cause a problem between the amaras oromos somalis tigrians and others is soooooo 18th century. We are working hard to grow and develop together . There is , of course nepotism and corruption . Through time and more education we will solve it.
            There are development activities all over ethiopia. Look at ADDIS ( the New York of Africa ) or Awasa or Bahir Dar, or Nazareth or the gilgel gibe 1,2,3 dams, or the GERD , the numerous universities , etc,etc,etc,etc,etc, Are you telling me all are in Tigray ?
            Let me tell you one more thing. When I see one factory opened or one university opened , the only thing I ask is how many employment opportunities or how many students? I don’t ask where? As long as it is in ethiopia, I’m more than happy.

        • Fnote Selam

          Dear Semere,

          You seem to have a very good understanding of the events that lead to the armed struggle for independence. My understanding on the matter is still evolving, so if you don’t mind, I would like to ask you a question. Some say, HS had to act quickly to annex and have complete control of Eritrea because he thought the ‘relatively’ democratic atmosphere in Eritrea at that time would threaten his power in Ethiopia. What is your take on this?

          Thanks,

          FS.

          • Tesfabirhan WR

            Till you get a response, have a time with Minister Farrakhan

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-OiUW_uGwM

            Take note: While continuining your investigation of personal views. You better also either read from what is said or share your view too.

          • Fnote Selam

            Hello Tes,

            Well, Tes, I do share my views in form of ‘I think’ here and there, but honestly, my views for the most part are not as well thought of or well informed of as that of many people (like yourself) in this forum. Still learning things….but if you want to hear what I think of things, just ask, will answer to the best of my ability…..

            Best wishes,

            FS.

          • Semere Andom

            Hi FS:
            I am learning just like as our history has not properly studied and the sand thing it is recent one, no lack of documentation. Scientific study must be conduct.
            HS’s action to short circuit the Federation wrecked havoc in both countries, I believe endangered his monarchy more by creating a fertile land for dictatorship, if democracy reigned in both countries, the worst thing that would have happed was, keeping the legacy as a head of state as we have in Great Britain to retain the historic link. I think he was confident about his reign, he just feared that Eritrea will eventually separate and he wanted to hammer the iron while it is hot, before the embryonic Eritreanism takes hold, leaving Ethiopia a land locked country, although given the outcome of the first voting that could have been less likely,,he had more in his quiver as far as my reading is concerned to solve the problem he was imagining. I am sure people around him could not dissent, that is why the right to dissent from the majority opinion is important. The diversity and clashing ideas are good for a nation not the group think. If you live by group think you die by group think

          • Fnote Selam

            Thanks Sir!

            FS.

  • Nitricc

    Aman lol, she will talk to you in Dedebitawi Science. you know, in Dedebit they have their own scince. the science of civil war and regim change. just warning lol.

  • Hayat Adem

    Yes, you are indeed harsh now, not sure why. You are right on one thing: I’m not into some of the hard sciences as a real scientist would be. But I can talk with a scientist about science. Are you trying to turn this discussion forum into a lab table now?

  • Tesfabirhan WR

    And just to ease,

    selam habtey, whether one calls Eritrea NK or black Korea, it is not an issue. As Mahmuda said it, it depends on the eye who see it. if you are not happy for labeling Eritrea under PFDj is just like that of North Kora under Kim Il Song, it is ok for me. It is my and othe people’s description. Describe it in what ever you want. Eritrea is always Eritrea.

    The rest, I am with you. My main objective is to fight for the current regime in Asmara. And I agree with you completely on our past history. I don’t have any problem with the past. I am a proud Eritrean like you.

    Therefore, I call you to avoid unnecessary word exchange. If you are not happy with my work and dumped it, it is fine. Even if you have a power and accessibility, delete it from the archieve. I will be happy if you happy to do so.
    Lets not waste our energy when we have much more common points that we both are ok with. I am trying my best and if you are not liking my approach, it is fine. I hope you will show me a better way.

    I am writing this because I don’t see any difference between our common understanding. if you are not happy for what I did to sal’s work, either ignore me, dump me or completely ignore me. All I know is I did what I did and I am responsible for it.

    At last, I call for peace between us.

  • Tesfabirhan WR

    I will just be so kind for you as I know what language you understand.

    Here is Fhri from the heart of Asmara expressing his sympathy with the youth who are cherishing in the sea. take time to contemplate;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QNUmtE-3c4

  • Tesfabirhan WR

    To be very frank, sister selam, you are the one who told me about that. Instead of commenting on the article, you jumped to my negligble comment and defended Sal’s work. Only then I thought oh, I did something to the article. Had you ignored my opinion, I could not have put much weight on it because I did so many times like that but non except you acted in the way you acted. Thank you for defending sal’s article.

    Yet, I do have my heartful gratitude to Sal’s work. For this latest article, I could have appreciated sincerily had he not included the single half sentence. I did’t reject the whole content to be honest. Still, I am non-present compared to who sal’s. But I don’t know why you are coming after me.

    If you go on, and if you honestly answer my question below, I will show you on to deal with you. I have a perfect tool to handle you in my grip no matter how you try to roar.

    hawki
    tes

  • Tesfabirhan WR

    Dear selam,

    Just I want to ask you one favor. Honestly respond to my question.

    Are you with the justice seekers who abandoned their normal life and joined the already on-going struggle in the field? be it as clandestine inside Eritrea or in the neighbour countries?

    Just an honnest YES or NO question?

    I am asking you because I have a different scale and dealing mechanism with different opposition types.

    With regards
    tes

  • Hayat Adem

    Dear Aman,
    you sound better now. i like talking science. but i thought science is universally knowable and stable. this yours didn’t look one. scientific unscience, may be:)

  • AMAN

    Dear Awates
    Sorry for some of the few humorous jokes I threw & played on you.
    It was only virtual reality humorous way that we do to communicate
    in our Habeshawi cultural gathering in the west. But know that I still
    didn’t be as vicious and as humorless and as bad and mean as you
    were towards me . So no Appologies just only cutting off the humour
    and Art part of our communication and make it science.
    Also humor in the west could mean insult in the east and vice versa.
    So good bye for Art full communication but only SCINCE from now on.

    • Hayat Adem

      deHan do?!

  • Hope

    :”He alleged that the Islamist Erdogan “belongs to the Muslim Brotherhood ideology, which is the base of al-Qaeda,” and said that Turkey stands squarely behind the insurgents fighting under the Islamic State (ISIS) banner.
    Referring to Erdogan, Assad said: “He’s very fanatical, and that’s why he still supports ISIS. He is personally responsible for what happened.” He added that without Turkish support for ISIS the Syrian army could easily defeat the insurgents.”
    Courtesy of President Assad of Syria

  • Amde

    Hello Secular Socialist

    Thank you for your response. Your last two paragraphs were especially interesting.

    Is it fair to ask if you think people are generally rational? I think people are primarily emotional (sorry Saay), and they tend to act per their fears and/or their desires, and not their calculated long-term interests. You have no idea how many poor blue collar white people I run into who consistently vote against their own economic interests for nothing but temporary emotional reasons. One gentleman I know, who spends 10 hours on his feet running a machine in a factory where he gets paid hourly wages, gave me a lecture on how “he” was not going to pay for the health care of the slob who wouldn’t take care of his health. This was in the throes of the ObamaCare hullaballoo. Of course, he was the first one to tell me abut his wife’s pregnancy complication.

    One writer (can’t find the reference right now) commented that the only reason most white americans (compared to all other west european “democracies”) vote conservative against their self interest is because they conflate some poor person getting state support with some black person getting state support. And while they are hurting themselves, they are doing so to prevent someone else (in this case lazy good for nothing blacks) getting the perceived benefit (which they construe are allocated on a zero-sum basis) . This is almost literally cutting your nose to spite your face.

    This objectively irrational behavior can only be explained by the emotional reactions people are susceptible to. To me, Abinet’s reference to Abraham Maslow’s hierarchy of needs is spot on. Unless people’s lower needs are satisfied they will fight you on the higher ones. This is why I am a little suspicious that how “democracy” is expressed or articulated in our societies makes no tangible reference to people’s internal psychological needs. Someone who is anxious for their daily life is not likely to be generous enough to fight to give rights and benefits to others. Those that do are the exceptions. Where “democracy” lands in the hierarchy of needs I do not know, but I suspect it falls more towards the “self-actualization” apex (as in seeing the self as worthy enough to participate in community/region/nation issues), than the base where physiological needs, safety and belonging matter the most.

    Hope this makes sense.

    Thanks,
    Amde

  • Nayzghi

    The first ever serious political mission as far as I know. Good move.

  • Tesfabirhan WR

    zikeberki selam,

    I know what happened to my people, but I see what is happening now to my people. Are you trying to close my eyes and live in the past. Are you humane. It is natural that women care much about today and feel the agony of human being than men. But, I don’t see you as such. But take not I am not on women issue, I am talking on the hearts of women is naturally sympathetic to anguish.

    Kurub hidie beli mo akaydana ahde entelo kinfelit. biahde entelena bihansab kiniguaz, bebeynina entelena dma memengedina kinfelit.

  • Tesfabirhan WR
  • Tesfabirhan WR

    Zikeberki selam

    I don’t know your stance but here is also human tradegy today because of PFDJ

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLJvW_Sw_dE

    Please, don’t try to be more Eritrean than any Eritrean. Every agony of our people hurts us. Yesterday it hurted us and we stood and now it hurted us and we stood.

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    I don’t know what you are talking. I don’t know which blogger you are talking about? If you are talking regarding my comment and I linked it, it means you don’t understand the message of it. It wasn’t about ghedli, it was about the current regime we have ” the Africa’s North Korea regime.” That is all.

    • Tesfabirhan WR

      Dear Amanuel H.,

      If you read her comments and reaction to me, she was belittling my articles and she came angry after I nullified Saleh Younis’s work. I thought that it is ok as I know how angry people can react. But now, you brought the North Korea issue and she has changed herself into a mad dog unto you.

      How can we handle such chauvinists?

      • Abinet

        How do you nullify somebody’s work? Do you think calling it chauvinist will nullify a well thought of work by a very able person ?
        Why don’t you write an article and dismantle his ideas like you did to YG?
        Do not rush it . I give you 25 years. I think it is enough time to get ready to challenge these very smart and well read people. I suggest you read A LOT . I mean A LOT. Do not run to google. Now off to the library. I’m counting down.

        • Tesfabirhan WR

          Just get ready with updated eye-glass. You will see it sooner. In the science world, there is no need to re-visit all the time period. If you are well aware of the world’s technological development, it took not more than 50-60 years to understand the more than 10,000 world wisdom. 25 years is nothing for an open minded and curious person.

          Eritrea needs new political thinkers but first the old thinking must be challenged and nullified and I am doing my part.

          Just get tuned if your eyes are helpful to read.

          • Rahwa T

            Hi Tes,

            Sometimes I couldn’t understand what you want to say. I don’t know what you mean by “In the science world, there is no need to re-visit all the time period”. I am feeling that you are generalizing or may be it could be because I don’t have clear what science means. At least I have read many scientific earlier scientific works (as old as many hundred yrs) revised many times. So can you elaborate on the above sentences so that I can learn from you if you are confident enough of your it?

          • Tesfabirhan WR

            Hi Rahwa T,

            I didn’t write to you and hence you might not understand. Abinet has understood it in what ever it is and he gave me more time, a plus 25 years. I thanked him and that is all. For you sorry, I didn’t mean it for you therefore take it easy and if you fail to understand me I care less on this particular converse.

            tes

          • Abinet

            Prof Tes
            I really did not understand what you said. That why I gave you 25 dog years not 25 years more. OMG ! Really?

          • Tesfabirhan WR

            Andinet,

            You better know why I don’t care what you say. I am not exchanging any kind of idea with you at all and I don’t see any meaningful sense too. Just be peace upon us. All I care with you is mutual respect and peace.

            tes

          • Abinet

            Tes
            After I read your reply I decided to give you more time . I think you need 25 dog years.
            Thanks.
            BTW, how do you count wisdom? How many do you have?

          • Tesfabirhan WR

            Dear ABinet,

            It is upto you. I will thank you for your offer and hope you will be patient till then.

  • Berhe Y

    Selam,

    If you say the make up of the population is like what you say, then how do you think a secular (what ever that means) will garantee equal opportunity?

    BTW, contrary to what you think, the Kebesa people, the majority of them, have it the worst today than any time before in our history. I am not comparing to any other group but their lives today compared to all other times and rulers before PFDJ.

    Berhe

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Dear Awatistas,

    Bereket Stephanos has beautifully rebutted to prove that “Eritrea is Africa’s North Korea,” to a blogger, a senior editor and MPA/ID candidate at Harvard University, Kennedy school of government. He eloquently disproved the blogger by tip toeing on the premise to suffice his argument by putting as follows: ” just because one does not see a particular thing, it does not mean that the particular thing does not exist. It could also be that one cannot establish cause and effect without showing the connection.” By doing that, Bereket listed the elements of comparison, of the Eritrean regime with that of the North Korean Regime. One shouldn’t miss reading his article which somewhat has a good correlation with what we are debating in this forum regarding “the regime and its institutional system.” Yes, “sad, unfortunate, bitter truth (that) Eritrea is Africa’s North Korea.” In order to have a good grasp to his argument, read the entire piece, linked below.

    http://assenna.com/sad-unfortunate-bitter-truth-eritrea-is-africas-north-korea/

    Regards,
    Amanuel Hidrat

  • Hayat Adem

    Dear Gonbel,
    Your last concluding sentence says it fair enough and I’m with you on that though “without outside influence” should mean without harmful outside influence. It is a modern world where we should be influencing and being influenced by others, helping those in need and when we can and being helped when we need it by those who can.

  • AMAN

    Dear Awatistas
    I love you all.
    You are fun to be with.
    With you,
    You also make struggle…….cake walking
    why shouldn’t I enjoy being with you Heras !
    peace !!

  • Semere Andom

    Nitricc and Cousin Hope chat during an Addis trip:

    Hope: I was really moved/tedefaniqe when you invoked your dad’s advice of how he told you to tell the truth and you do not have to memorize. It is wisdom/libona

    Nitricc: well truth be told and because am Mr. Truth I will tell you something I did not publicly say the other day; actually my dad did not exactly tell me in the same exact words, I paraphrased it. What he told me was,”haqi tezaribka ab megedi babur deqis” and the train will not kill you. You will emerge un ethcated

    Hope: We used to lie/ndiqis/akrerna on railroads even without speaking/telling/SAYING/UTTERING the truTH. I am not sure if you have been in Eritrea before but before the Ethiopians came and confiscated our gaggud/ammur/kurro we used to drink lots of milk in Aderde and Engerne and Mansurra so we had sharp memories and excellent hearing. So we would leave/runaway from the from the train as we hear the train honking from distance and approaching us.

    Nitricc: Truth be told, my dad did not say run away when you hear the train coming, he said tell the truth fearlessly, point blank and lie on the train path, literally and one day, the good kid I am I just did that. Unlike you when I heard the train coming from afar I rushed and sprawled on the across the rails, but the train did not spare me. I was injured. But all is not that bad. “All is well that ends well” said the great Eritrean philopher Plato. And because I am truth teller I will confide in you that that train experience made

    me both dumb and fearless. And because of that experience, I did not need to read Sal’s latest article, I just stared at the picture and figure all the nuts and bolts of the article and succinctly summarized it in a comment.

    Hope: Huhhh/emwaE/meeee/umbae, you did on that after telling the truth and the train did not kill you?

    Nitricc: yes Hope, why are doubting the Eritrean spirit and stamina, I am a living proof of that Eritrean saying. Have some self-respect and believe that if you have the truth with you nothing can defeat you. Think of it this way, Eritreans struggle had the truth, right? And the high speed huge Ethiopian train could not crash the revolution, the experience of that train made Eritrean fearless. It was the train that crashed, I am sure you agree. And in my case, I was bleeding all over, but I smiled when I saw the wheels of the train fly in all directions. Truth, my friend. If you have the truth, you need nothing, no brains, no nothing

    Anyway forget about trains and truth now, after the trip let us go to Eritrea, specifically I want to see the capital of Keren, Elabered and also I want to visit the capital of hagaz, the Capital city of Senhit. Can you be my guide?”

    Hope: ohhhhhhhhhhh/ ere/ewae: Nitricc the lione of Nacfa, Keren is the capital of Senhit and Hagaz and Elabered are Towns/hawsi ketema/villawns in Senhit. Aunt/hafti-Enoy/halche Hayat ketisemaka

    Nitricc; Dude, dude, let me aks you this: are you from Debebit too?

    Hope, Nope/NONO/Lallla, why are you ASKING me abbess/lione/assed of Nacfa?

    Nitricc. Because if you are from Eritrean you would not say hafti enoy, that is Debebit speak, in Eritrea we say habit Adey for aunt. Come on man. I will keep aksing you questions if you sound like Debebit.

    Hope” OK/Hirray/eshi/senni/abbe

    Nitricc: you are freaking me dude, let me aks you again, what is this gibberish, senni and abbe

    Hope: you are sounding like Debebit yourself, these are Kerenite wo Tigryat way of saying sure and OK

    Nitricc; cool my man, kool. Do not worry about Debebit, Hope, I told you, I told her the truth about my dumbness and fearlessness and I can confidently lie on Debebit’s high speed suicidal train. Always tell the truth bud. I will again emerge un ethcated but I tell you her train will be pieces. But I will never be dumber but will be even more fearless.

    • Hayat Adem

      Wow, entertainment and character every bit of it!

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Sem,

      It is dramatic character telling. Live long live our entertainer. You put it in a simplistic way the nature of their talks.

      • Hope

        We could have narrated tons of dramatic charcters but we opted to be respectful for now.
        “Suk meritsna alena nihiji”,the EPLF style though!

    • Hope

      Cousin Sem,
      I admire your “Satirism” but would have admired you more if you focus more on serious National Issues constructively by using that Brilliant Brain,Bro….

    • Nitricc

      Seriously though you got time to waste like that? You must have the most boring life in the history of human being. ! I don’t care you can write all you want but don’t you have a better thing to do? Do you have a wife, kids, friends that make up life? You can write all you want but I did not tack my tail between my legs and run away like a little girl from my country and live in Canadian welfare system. Here it is, just summarized your entire existence. You have nothing to show for. What a wasted life. If I have to live your life, I will make it real fun and quick that is cyanide and a bottle of beer. DONE! what is the point?
      Actually when you said Dedebit grad should be counted as two persons; I knew everything I need to know about your stupidity. So, there is nothing you can say to get my attention.

      • Hayat Adem

        Nitricc to Sem: “…there is nothing you can say to get my attention.”

        But I don’t know what he said, he already got your attention. It is because of that you had to react with half page anger and rage above. We know how it is very easy to get your attention. What we do know is why we need it here.
        I got a joke for you: A man is knocking at a door.
        A woman from inside asked, “who is it?”
        “It is me”, he said.
        “who is the me you”, she asked back.
        “just me, me”, he said with atone of insistence.
        “Do you know me, do you know my name?” she was now testing the man, if he really is not a stranger.
        “Of course”, he replied.
        “Can you call me Almaz?”
        “Sure. Almaz!”
        Pass word is given, door is open.

      • Semere Andom

        You are Mr. Truth and your told Hayat the truth about your stupidity/dubmness. So why are you angry now. You admitted your dumbness in this forum and Hayat gave you free advice to make your brain catch up with your guts for your own good. Yes, I do have a wife and a new kid, what is why Mahmuday calls me abu Noah. I married to Mahmuday’s cousin, ask him in your next physotherapy session:-) Also congratulation you got one more honorable awatista, Amde, whom you have attacked before is willing to take you under his wings to save your from your self. As long as you make dumb comments about Eritrea, Eritreans and Ethiopia and Ethiopians or of human beings you will be called for it by this commenter or anyone. Live with it and that is ow it is going to be in Eritrea, if the lethal combination of your self dumbness and fearless nature does not stop you
        Serray called your a robot, I disagree with him, robots have mind, not only do they follow instructions like you are able to do, they top you in one regard, they have artificial intelligence and some of them can even feel.So Serray the sublime was wrong about his description of you, you are more of a lumber than a robot that is able to do sophisticated surgery to wish suicide on your fellow Eritreas for poking fun on you based on truth. Look at Hope, how he answered when I made fun of him now and last time.With all the things I disagreed with Hope never was vulgar nor cruel, he just made his point regardless what we thought or said of him. He pissed of many of us, he made sense many times and he was none sense many times, like many of us but he is human. Be human, and first step to the process of regaining your humanity, provided that you had it before and lost is to stay away from PFDJ. If your never had it then maybe you are a cross between a human and non-human.
        In the future Eritrea you personaly will not be a problem to us as you are too dangerous to yourself, but the ideas and ideals your represt are dangerous and that is the ideal of the so called YPFDJ. The filth/sdinet you have perfected in YPFDJ meeting will come to haunt you and it is is intoxicaating to the point of delusion to think that you the sole custodian of the best interest of our nation.You are in good place, expand your brain the pool of your brain cells, then we cannot talk. If the symptoms you exbit here are inborn and not learned we can be easy on your on the basis of retardation and isanity

    • Hope

      Sem,
      Did you get your “Ph.D” from Paris University of Lying and Satirism?Seriously ,there is a University over there giving such unique courses.

    • Guest

      Here is the Babur Dedebit Nitric made it’s wheels to fly off the rail !!

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfXAHJDc_x8

  • Hayat Adem

    I just wanted to comment on the name you’ve chosen to your self. It is not lost upon me that you should be free on what to pick but why this? Don’t you want to project and symbolize positivism? We all say ‘what is in a name!’ to just underscore the necessary importance of somethingness over sombodiness, that said, our parents must have learned something to always have chosen only the good names for their kids. For example, why would you call yourself Nitricc while you can go for Hope? The problem with the latter is he has to back it up in deeds. The former has lost the naming itself, which is free and easy, you can’t expect him to pass on the stuff that require work and thinking.
    Naming matters in someways. And speaking of names, this happened in Asmara some years ago: an aspirant young playwright, Tesfai (real name protected) brought a script for review and editing to the our prolific writer Amanuel Sahle and begged him to find time to help him improve it. Amanuel generously (what else is in him, he is full of it) agreed to have a look at it and asked the young man to come back after three days, and he came back, and consequently the following conversation happened:
    ኣማኑኤል፡- ምንባብ ኣንቢበያ ኣለኹ፡ ግን ብዙሕ ባህ ኣይበለትንን። ኣዐርያ ክብለካ ከማን ተጸጊመ…
    ተስፋይ፦ ከመይ ደኣ ከምኡ ተሰሚዑካ- ብዙሕ ለፊዐ ነፊዐ እኳየ ጽሒፈያ። ምናልባት በጸሓሕፋይ ዶ ኣብ ምንባቡ ተሸጊርካ ትኸውን’ሞ ባዕለይ ከንብበልካ- እገረመገዲ’ውን ገለ መብርሂ እናሃብኩ…
    ኣማኑኤል፦ ኖኖ፣ ከምኡስ ኣየድልን። ምናልባሽ ከዓ ካልእ ሰብ ይርኣየልካ…
    ተስፋይ፦ እሞ ኢሳያስ እንድየ ሓቲተ ነይረ ደኣ ክረኽቦ ኣይከኣልኩን፣ ንስኻ ከምደውልካሉስ ሕራይ መበለ…
    ኣማኑኤል፡- ኖኖ- ባዕልኻ ደኣ ኪዶ! ስለምንታይከ “ጨናዊት ሙታንታ”* ዝብል ኣርእስታ ክኸውን መሪጽካ?
    ተስፋይ፦ ምእንታን ሰብ ክትስሕበለይ ኢለ እንዳ’ለይ…

    ኣማኑኤል፡- እንድዒ! ‘ዚኣ ደኣ ‘ታይ ሰብ ትስሕብ፡ ሃመማ ትስሕብ ‘ምበር!
    ተስፋይ፦ ግደፍ’ባ ኣማኑኤል! መናእስይ የተባብዕ’ዩ ኢሎም ኣጋግዮምኒ’ምበር ከምዚ ዲኻ?!
    ————————
    * sorry for my use of the word here. if it was not true story and I didn’t think it does have some humor, and some story about our beloved write and thinker Amanuel, I might not have used it here.

  • Hayat Adem

    What is that, Aman? Do you feel like talking and nobody is giving attention?Here I am. What people used your property? What property? What did you do to them to get it back? Why do you make me ask all these question?

  • Hayat Adem

    Gonbel, you said, “The transformation from liberation front to civilian government is haunting many.”
    Eritrea and Eritreans didn’t come into existence with this Front. They were there for generations. They had everything that enabled them to function as a society. They had standard values for justice and fairness; they had sensible and applicable rules and laws; there were intergenerationally evolved and refined cultural glues and social fabrics. Eritrea had a ready made society. Our start up conditions were much better compared to many African countries. What one thing and the only thing was needed from this Front was preserve and observe all those virtues and assume the governance responsibility from the Ethiopians and open a new chapter that:
    speeds up the return of exiled Eritreans not multiply the exiling of Eritreans itself;
    demobilizes tegadelti and wind down ghedli life, not expanding the militarization of Eritrea in the name of Sawa and Naitonal Service (read Slavery);
    puts Eritrea on the world map tagged with a good global perception representing a shining new hope of peace and stability, not making a rogue state receives sanction and curse, isolation and stigma;
    What transformation are you talking about? It is not even stagnation. It is not even regression. It is something else. It is a different kind of unknown and unprecedented crisis.

  • Berhe Y

    Dear Chegora,

    Some people seem to think they know what the people need and what the people want. This is a problem, because this makes the assumption the people are stupid enough to make the right decision.

    I believe all human beings given the right to chose, majority of them chose what’s right. We see it everyday in the lives of billions of people who tend their daily life and look after the wellbeing of their family and loved once. Eritreans are no different.

    In my opinion, I really don’t know why people do not consider this, Eritrea should be a federal state. How it should be divided I think the old province system is a VERY good start. Based on those provinces and population a number of seats will be allocated to have proper represent ion and balance of power.

    And each province have their own state governments, and local municipalities.

    Then anyone can start any party they want and bring it to the people to make a choice. Then the party that have the majority (or coalition of parties) will get the mandate to govern.

    I will give a couple of scenarios, say this party runs. Lets assume the party members compute with other party members in all parts of the country. Let’s assume its members win election in the Muslim dominated regions and they will lose in the other region. Who ever wins will go to the parliament, then you have a parliament which is TRUE representative of the public (diverse).

    The system will have the mechanism to control itself, with free and open media outlets. Same as what we see here at awate.com. What ever protection you think you need comes from within the people and in extreme cases (the moderator / the courts) will make the decision.

    This only disadvantage one group of people, those of us Eritrean from Kebesa who wanted to dominate not only our region but that of others. For example, I see no reason what so ever, a person from Kebesa no matter how brilliant has a business to become a mayor or a governor of Aqurdet. If he is brilliant let him find something else to do if he can’t get elected in his region.

    This system works in India, Canada and many diverse society across the world.

    Berhe

    • Hope

      Berhe:
      -Federalism is good but technically and practically,it is unrealistic and impractical.specially considering your thought process.
      My opinion:
      The current style of administrative Regions is,at least superfificially and per my understanding,to avoid Region ,Ethnic and Religion based Politics and Administration.
      Please refer to Saay’s arguement;and also to Mr Bohashim’s Articles and as to why he changed his mind about Federalism in Eritrea.
      Our painful and final struggle was not based on Region,Ethnicity and Religion otherwise it might sound that the Deki Barka should have liberated Barka;Deki Sahel should have liberated their own Sahel;Deki Semhar should have liberated their Semhar;Deki Senhit/Keren should have liberated their own Senhit;Deki Akele,Seraye and Hamasien should have liberated their own Regions.
      What we need and more realistic and practical under the Rule of Law is:
      _Decentralized,Democratic,and Inclusive Administratvie Regions and Governance free from Region,Ethnic and Religion based Politics with equal representation,and Equal Distribution of Power and National Resources.
      As long as there is Constitutional Goverance and Equal distribution of Power and Resources,I do not believe that Region,Religion and Ethnic based Federalism is helpful;rather,it might lead to unnecessary and unexpected issues.
      But this topic should be put aside and left alone for the future Constitutionally Elected National Assembly
      If not,we are back to square ONE—-and we will prolong the power of dictatorship .

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Oh man, Federalism is also “decentralized democratic governance.”

        • Hope

          Mr.Amanuel Hidrat,
          Per my understanding,the “Federalism ” we are talking about is the one based on Region,Religion and Ethnicity…unless I misunderstood Berhe.
          Rest assured that not only I know the definition of Federalism, but I also exhausted reading on it and its various components and features and I also spent time on the Canadian,the USA,the Nigerian,the Ethiopian,the European,etc—“styles” of Federalism.I also read Bohashim in detail.Each might fit their situation and historical back grounds.
          But it would be unfair to reciprocate it to Eritrea and our situation simply coz others did it,as “We are UNIQUE” as a People and as a Nation,though we are NOT perfect.
          Our grievances and failures are so simple though not very easy.
          In my Opinion,a simple Constitutional Governance with a Decentralized Democratic Infra-structure” would do the trick where the right of every Citizen is equally respected with no dictionary in our language about Minority or Majority in its any form.
          Even NO to the so called ” Majority Rule with Minority Right”…..as there is NO MInority or black and white thing in Eritrea.
          I would be more than Happy to be ruled by the Nara or the Rashaidas as long as my rights are fully respected and I have equal access to/ share of the National Resources.
          If Asmarinos and the Naras in Barentu/Gash Barka enjoy the same rights,eat and drink the same quality of water and food; and have the same and equal access to Education and Health Care,and as far as I have an equal right my Political Right to vote and to be voted; and as long as no body interferes with my private Belief/Faith,who cares as to who is my President or my Party?

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Let me expose you further: you have said, ” there is NO MInority or black and white thing in Eritrea”. So the minority/majority matter is only black vs white issue. Ah! why don’t go to learn basic socio-politics. If all types of federalism are “decentralized democratic governance”, what is the specific name when you say “a simple Constitutional Governance with a Decentralized Democratic Infra-structure”? All decentralized democratic governance has names. If something is “simple” why isn’t easy? aren’t both words correlated meaning to one thing? You need really help on the concepts….. you know where to go.

          • Hope

            Come on Aman,
            Haven’t you proven to us that you are THE “Good-for-Nothing” Political Analyst…over and over?
            But I admitted to you that I am NOT one of the Cyber Politicians; and btw, we are NOT here to pick up on words and sentences but on IDEAS and SOLUTIONS!
            My message is simple that Region,Religion and Ethnicity based Federalism is destructive for Eritrea.
            I thought I already told you about the other “Types of Federalism” and I clarified it to you above whenI was clarifying myself on Berhe’s take.If I have read enough on Federalism,you would expect that I read about “Types of Federalsim”.
            If I have to pick up a Mentor or a Teacher on “Basic Political Science and Federalism”,for sure it wouldn’t be you.Mr.lost soul!
            I refer you to Aklilu Zere.
            Get a life man!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            That is a good choice by the way. When I say where to go, I had in mind two of your mentors (Saay and Mahmud) or the organization you support their political program. I am sure they will do a good job on the subject I asked you especially Saay. I think you don’t understand my questions. You repeat the same thing that has nothing to do with my questions. Remember questions always comes from your retorts. Don’t forget that. I didn’t bring it just from the air. Think before your fingers goes to the PC to react.

          • Berhe Y

            Hope,

            I think you misunderstood me.
            I am not saying we should have political system ONLY based on religion, region, ethnic make up etc. you can have those if that’s what the people want or others. What I am saying is, the system with garantee and protects itself. If you ban this group or that group then you are creating a problem that you don’t know how to solve.

            Let me give you an example, say Aboy Keshi decided to run for office. And during his debate or speech he decides to invoke the name of God, because that’s what he does everyday of his life. If some acuse him of violating the rules, where would you draw the line. You will be chasing problems rather than trusting the people to know the difference and make their judgement based on the merit of his speech or that his character. Tell me in what likely hood would you protect his right if you ban any religion, as an example.

            I agree with you what a citizen should aspire and I think the federal parliament system, in my opinion is the system that garantee you those rights. Otherwise you put your faith on politicians and you expect them to uphold those rights.

            A citizen should have all those rights you described and more, such as the right to vote where ever he happen to reside, the right of movement, the right of residency, freedom of speech, religion, political affiliation etc.

            Here is an example for you, say I am from Kebesa and I decided to live in Barentu. I don’t know the number, but let’s say my kind are only 10% of the population compared to those people who live there. Wouldn’t that make me a minority, just because of my small number.

            For example, if seraye is one region and those who run for office are most likely from the same region and the people who will vote them are also from the sme region, then they will be able to pick and chose who they think are the best candidate (remember anyone else will have the right to elect and be elected, if he resides in that region) so there is no conflict, Habes wedges what have you.

            Now tell me any federal decentralized diversed parliament system that has political problems that is not able to overcome?

            By the way, the party (majority) will elect its leader and becomes the prime minister, so the leader can be from any region, religion or ethnic back ground.

            On the other hand say, the Kebesa get elected from all those candidates and you the whole parilament made up of the same people. How would you deal with this scenario?

            Berhe Y.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear Berhe,

            Hope’s understanding of minority/majority is applicable to black and white race. Not in terms socio-political and socio-economic disparity of classification.

            regards,

    • aba_chegora

      Berhe, thank you for your response which made me sad. I dod not know there were people who are still hoping to see a nation that is divided among ethnic and religious lines. Thousands gave their life so that we can live wherever we want irrespective of our ethnicity and religion. Therefore akordet kan have an afar mayor and segeneyti kan have a kunama mayor, It is simply destructive to think to rule eritrea on the basis of religion or ethnicity. This kind of mentality can be for many people like me a good reason to support the rule of higdef eventhough higdef is a monster. I can assure you, however, the monester which goes by the name of ethnic/religious federalism, will be much more worse than higdef.

      • Berhe Y

        Aba Chegara,

        This is just my opinion based on my experience living in multicultural, multilingual and multiethnic parliamentary system, where all people have equal rights in the law and enjoy everything. Off course, it’s not perfect but at least it works.
        It’s your choice if you decide to support a government and a system which is accountable to no body and leads by the whim of a single individual, where the people have no right and have no say, in their daly life, even their children are considered property of the regime (slaves), then by all means.

        I challenge you though to give an example where such system has failed the people as compared to others, where the system does have the means to fix it.

        When I gave the example about Mayer of Aqurdet, I was trying to make sense that, Majority people given the choice, they will chose someone who represent them. Based on that assumption, I can say confidently given the choice the people Aqurdet will chose one of their own. If you go to adi quala you will get the same. This is not to say, people are racist or regionalist what have, but that’s the nature of US humans, and I don’t think Eritreans are any different.

        I am sorry to the Ethiopian friends, but I going to use it as an example, because it is relevant and we have experience with it.

        Under the federal agreement, Eritreans chose to have two languages, Tigrina and Arabic. Then Amharina come and replaced almost everything. In our school system, we were thought Amharic but I had never had a chance to learn Tigrina other than what I learned at home and in our church. I can say the same thing about Arabic, Tigre etc.

        Haileslasie even went further, they made us a mandatory to have Amharic, along with English and Math, to enter University (DERG removed Amharic) from being Mondatory but they still thought in school. In Other words, they wanted everyone assimulated and amharinized. This is the reason I think majority of Ethiopians who oppose the current federal system are those Amhara or those brought up in such system. Off course the federal system needs to protect and garantee peoples right to live and chose where ever they want and elect and be elected where ever they chose to live.

        I think Ethiopia would have achieved great had it allowed to transform to a federal system where all citizens have equal opportunities.

        Abinet, I expect your challenge which is welcome but I wanted to just remind you the the Eritrean armed struggle was NOT the first which challenged the monarchy.

        Berhe

  • yigermal

    There is nothing more hilarious than when the onion is peeled to its rotten core. All inhibitions are shattered, paranoia sets in and the bullets of vilification are sprayed randomly in a circular fashion. No one is spared, except the cultists of the madman aka the guardians of Eritrea. I am loving watching the implants coming unglued, much like their pathetic cult leader did during his teeth-grinding, saliva-swallowing fidgety interview with Jane Dutton’s of AL Jazeera 🙂

  • Abraham Hanibal

    To all Neo-Andnets, and the infamous lost soules.

    There is no way for you to exploit the current predicament the Eritrean people find themselves under the tyranny of Isayas and his group to question or belittle the Eritrean people’s struggle for Independence. Eritreans didn’t struggle only for an independent nation, but rather for a democratic, just and prosperous one. Their journey to realise their dreams have only been hampered for a while by the evil Isayas group; but never mind neo-andnets, and lost souls; the Eritrean dream is still alive and it will be realised by the same peoples’ struggle.

    • Hope

      Amen,Bro!
      Yes,the Eritream Dream is alive and Eritrea and Eritreans will outshine and prevail…very soon,indeed.
      But it has a PRICE TAG though and it needs,” me’ante shet,habbo,nih,tewefayinet,Action…….the Eritrean style/wat!

      • Abraham Hanibal

        Selam Bro Hope;

        I see it that the only realistic and logical way of bringing chage to the better in Eritrea is by empowering and emboldening the people inside the country, including those who’re serving the regime, not because they agree with it, but because of the necessities of life, or even because they’re forced to do.
        The role of us in the diasporas is to dissociate ourselves completely from the PFDJ-regime, and instead join or strengthen the justice-seeking groups who believe on the idea of Eritrean solutions to Eritrean problems. Let’s be wise and identify those groups who’ve no sensible or practical agendas, other than imposing an alien idea and outsourcing of Eritreans’ affairs. These groups are nothing more than a waste of time, resources, and energy.

        • Hope

          Ahlen Abreham,
          Thanks for the treat Bro.
          Yes indeed but the major challenge is :
          How and in what way!

  • Amde

    Hello secular socialist republic,

    I would be interested to hear your version of what you would call popular participation in local/regional/national governance. I am not being a troll, but I have a bit of a suspicion that the pursuit of an undefined “democracy” in our region may be a bit of a white whale. I would be happy to just see a regime that obeys its own written laws – that would at least give a basis for struggling against immoral laws. A mechanism to make such a regime responsive to popular opinion would be good too. I just don’t know what to call such a mechanism without falling on what we are used to and know in the west as “democracy”.

    Amde

    PS You bring a different perspective and I always learn something from you. Thank you.

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Dear Awatistas,

    Dr. Yebio Woldemariam, in the introduction of his testimony to the “commission of Inquiry” about human right violation in Eritrea, has to say this: ” It is here that those with the capacity to articulate the suffering of people should intervene not only as driving force for its indictment (the regime) but also as a warning for those coming after its demise. No crime committed by the regime will be swept under the rug or wrong doings trivialized and go unaccounted for. ” Indeed the justice seekers has nothing as prime goal other than the good doctor has alluded in a crystal clear for those who have nothing but “talk of past patriotism” – Precisely for those who want to exonerate the crimes of their colleagues using the shield of past patriotism. To read the whole text, below is the link.

    http://www.asmarino.com/articles/4249-testimony-human-rights-violations-in-eritrea

    Amanuel Hidrat

    • Hope

      More Kumnegher as well:
      Prof Saleh AA Youins should update his Testimony,which I have watched x10 in the Youtube thus far and I have found it “beyond penteratingly convincing” backed up by facts and factual experience..
      Come on Cousin,go for it.

  • Mohammed Ahmed

    Ahlan yigermal

    That the core of the onion was rotten was very clear from the get go. It wasn’t even necessary to peel it. One could easily tell from the kind of flies it was attracting.

    The bigoted diatribes followed by insincere apologies – only to be tagged by more bigoted diatribes and conflicting parlance both in prose and context speak of inconsistencies – the type of inconsistencies which could only be explained that a “layered-nick/account” is at play here. The players? The suck-and-blow crowd, still trapped in the juvenile “hoye hoye” mentality, but with old and tired bigoted arguments.

    The “peel” metaphor you used was spot on.

  • Hayat Adem

    Obvious thoughts:
    1) theoretically speaking and as a matter of natural default, there is nothing wrong with andnet.
    2) theoretically speaking and as a matter of natural default, there is nothing wrong with independence.
    3) both options can go hellish and history has already proven that. as bad as death and misery within andnet is, so are deaths and miseries under independence. Also true is, as much as both are not natural curses, each can be improved to deliver better given the right system and leadership.
    4) the reason why many still support independence is not because they think it is delivering better but because failing to support it is tantamount to nullifying and emptying the generational struggle, the cause, the sacrifice, the dreams.
    5) the reason why I support independence is not that because it is the only sacrosanct truth on earth but because I don’t want to see another nullifiable and violable sacrifice for the return ticket.

    6) the overwhelmingly majority independent camp’s advantage over the extremely minority andnet has nothing to do with the supremacy of their idea. It is rather the ticket to get here is already paid, and the appetite and the resource to undo the journey is not there.
    7) there is no way this hegemonic majority/ extreme minority setting will change in the near future unless there is a proven way of avoiding blood sacrifice becomes viable, which means the occurrence of a fundamental evolvement of political and social thoughts and tastes, on both sides.
    8) now, people like Mahmuday, are annoying me with their akaki zeraf and I want to tell them that they must focus on improving and changing the hellish livelihood at hand instead of the obsession with the patriotic barking about a faded ghedli voice, because, truly speaking, there is nothing you can contribute and you can brag about and there is little you would be able to inspire us with.
    9) andnets are fine except they don’t have to ask us to pay for the return journey ticket. independents have a paid ticket at hand (justified or not) and we want to work from thta paid reality.
    10) it goes without saying, if the future generation finds a way to work together as one economy and polity based on complete trust, confidence, fairness and maximal-purpose-driven integration without incurring a drop of harm to one another, no rational thinker is expected to stand against such positive development.
    Hayat

    • Amde

      Hayat,

      Please continue being a superstar.

      Amde

      • Hayat Adem

        Thanks, Amde,
        Like what Plato said, there is nothing darker than seeing educated men and women fearing the light.
        hayat

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Hayat, point blank with a straight aim directly.

        • Nitricc

          Dedebit where did you find that qoute? don’t miss qoute the great man. he never includes women. he always refers to “MEN”
          And this is what he said…

          “We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light”
          Plato

          • Hayat Adem

            It was a paraphrased recite and not meant verbatim quote. Like you can see, I didn’t put it in parenthesis as exact quotes and I was fishing it out from my memory from what I heard or read. I didn’t spoil Plato’s message, though, did I?
            Good to see that Google is becoming the great equalizer.

          • Amde

            Hayat,

            Forgive the child. 🙂

            Amde

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            The message is “fearing the light”. Truly there many who are afraid of enlightenment.

          • Nitricc

            Dedebit don’t be deceptive; saying “Like what Plato said” is the same as quoting some one. Just say my bad and move on; don’t try to cover it. Or you should have added by saying “like what plato said, sort of” and then we can understand you are paraphrasing it.

          • Hayat Adem

            Yes, I was quoting him but I was quoting him for the message not for the words. When quote some one for the idea, you mustn’t overlook two issues: don’t adulterate the message and don’t forget to attribute. I am safe on both accounts. If it is sin mining that you are preoccupied with, you may harvest better somewhere else than here.

      • Nitricc

        Amde; what do you mean continue? It is her job! Don’t worry she is going no where.

        • Hayat Adem

          I like being here and voicing as much as I can and if you don’t like that, I prefer I try harder to change your opinion rather than disappear. The other side of the pillow is you like being here, too, and I don’t mind your presence and your dumb voices. Since Disqus, you entered 1059 comments and, on average, you earned nearly 1 vote per every comment, while I entered 565 including this one and earned slightly higher than 2 approvals per comment on average. So, you are more here, did more entry (which is a plus) and got good approval while I’m comparatively less here and did less entry but earned higher approvals (both total and per piece) than you.
          Are you hired and being being paid for all this hard work?

          • Nitricc

            hahahah Dedebit, you got it all wrong. Lol thanks for bringing to my attention. Lol
            When I write, sort of; in awate-forum, I am not graded and getting paid. And being even kill on the toothless voting count shows you how diverse Eritreans are and shows my takes are divers. I don’t post siding with one or the other; I am for the country’s best interest and for the well being of her people. On the other hand; you write or somebody writes and you post siding one particular political entity; the TPLF. Since they are paying you, they must grade you too. So you need those votes. For me they are useless but for you, the number votes – mean- pay- checks.
            Furthermore; Since you write against Eritrea and Eritreans exclusively; and we know the majority of this forum participants are Ethiopians it is natural to vote for you. So, if I were you, I wouldn’t barge. Just make sure you treat to lunch Semere, Aman H and the rest of the Amen corner. You ought to top them lol.
            Dedebit is always Dedebit.

          • Hayat Adem

            If I were you, I would never say this: “we know the majority of this forum participants are Ethiopians”.
            1) It is not true, 2) you have no way of knowing even if it were true, 3) you are dangerously mis-characterizing the website and the owners and editors who run it. A lot of the news stories and articles come to life by way of Awate. Almost all of them are either about Eritrea and Eritreans or written in the eye proximity and interest of the country and the people. The owners are Eritreans, the editors are Eritreans and the prominent article contributors are all Eritreans. It only follows that Eritrean issues will mostly attract Eritreans in the discussion as well. And even if there are few Ethiopians joining, it should be welcomed and celebrated. You are annoying everyone here, including the website itself.
            Forget from the point of protecting the geopolitical strategic long term interest of Eritreans, even from the point of hospitality- a person like you visits Ethiopia for vacationing there in person on the physical land experiencing live hospitality of the real people there, ironically, tries to unwelcome and repudiate Ethiopians to a virtual forum? How mean is that?!!

          • Amde

            Hayat,

            He goes to Ethiopia on Recon practice. Dodging hospitality and sunshine are hazards of the job.

            Amde

          • Nitricc

            Dedebit it is proven time and then you are pathological lier. There is no enough money you can pay me to go to your poverity striken and bagging country of yours. Vacation what is there?

          • Hayat Adem

            As to what is there you are better position to know by now or if you seek 2nd opinion, call Araya. The rest is also from you. You told us few things about yourself, remember? You also told us you are the dumbest, Once you told us, we’ll use it. You can’t ask for exclusivity once knowledge is out. The other day, you barked at Sem A, for calling you dumb. You told him, “it is only you and the Dedebit who think I’m dumb”. Okay, if you don’t want any of it, don’t let it out of the bag.

          • Nitricc

            Dedebit let me tell you what my dad thought me. He said ” Tell the truth and don’t worry rememering a thing. ”
            There is nothing i say i can not repeat. I told you that you are stupid and i am dumb. Being dumb there is hope to be smart but when you are stupid what will you do. Now tell me what i supposdly i have told you.

          • Hayat Adem

            How come you didn’t heed even your Dad, then?

          • Abinet

            Good question . Ask Hope or Araya.

          • Hope

            Well,I am going to enter 1059×3 votes for Nittric then.How about that “Hayatina”?

          • Hayat Adem

            That is fine if you don’t mind the cheating part.

          • Hope

            Ms Hayot/Aunti,
            Cheating?
            Did U forget how the TPLF got 99.9 per cent of the votes?
            Did you forget how the TPLF made up the Eri Sanction story?
            Did U know how George W.Bush won in Florida/Texas but ONLY to mess up America and the World?
            Do you know how Iraq was invaded?
            Do you know how the Kuwati Amb and his daughter “testified” to the US Congress so as to invade Iraq?
            Did you forget that soon how Libya was invaded and how the hero Mu’amer Kaddafi was hunted down?
            Do you know how the Lockerbee Plane was shot down so as to point the finge at Libya?
            What about as to how our own Eritrea and Eritreans have been betrayed,cheated,tricked,sanctioned,tortured,etc?
            Don’t you know how business in this world works?
            In the event if you are that naive despite your articulation,here are few hints,girl!
            By cheating,tricking,fooling,lying,making up stories,bribing,invasion,occupation,etc….
            Kab mihros A’emiro!
            And you are belittling Hope’s brain and intellect!Huh,kudos to you!
            No matter what,do not forget that you are dealing with ERITREANS!!!!
            The CAN DO PEOPLE.Give them a chance…and do NOT judge them by one man’s arrogance and failure!
            “Bo ghizie le kulu”.

          • Hayat Adem

            Never was my intention to make you feel that way but if I did my apologies, please. The rest is fine.

          • Abinet

            Hope
            Can you explain ” the can do people”
            And what do you mean when you say ” dealing with eritreans ?”

          • Hope

            Come on Abi,
            I did not bite Mamma Ethiopia and am just staying within my limits .
            Please refer to Vet Mahmoud and his response to Ms Hayat about your inquiries!

          • Abinet

            You did not bite mama ethiopia? So, whose teeth mark is that on her breast?

    • Kokhob Selam

      All true but now the reality is the nation should be democratic as past has gone and future has its own way, we have to hand over free democratic country to our coming generation.

    • Hope

      Ms Hayat et al:
      Here is the way I see things:
      -We are NOT denying the TRUH and the FACTS but we are wondering as to why we are NOT acting as we should after/while knowing all the TRUTH!
      -We are also seeking for an honest,balanced,truthful,reasonable,rational,all inclusive and solution oriented common sense approach.Short of these parameters,we will never achieve a lasting Peace and real Change.
      There is no such thing called “partial truth” as truth is “whole truth”.
      I am sure you know where I am coming from.
      Cousin kim Hanna,as usual,to his credit,will understand me better;and correct me as well,as he is my Psychic Reader!

      • Hayat Adem

        O-k-a-y Hope, may I call up on Kim, then, to help us help ourselves hop Hope’s brain? Hip, hip hurrah, Kim Hannah! Pick mic.

        • Hope

          Hayat Gual Adem(My Aunt’s name is Hayot=Hayat,btw).
          I am glad that you got my message.
          And NO need of twisting Facts.

          • Hayat Adem

            Only one correction: “Aboy Adem”

          • Hope

            Yes,Mom/Ms,I stand corrected as that is my culture-RESPECT!
            Thank you!

        • Kim Hanna

          Selam Hayat Adem,
          .
          One of my favorite people and Hope’s too from what I gather, Mr. SAAY, once said, “A man has to know his limitations”. He even attached a Clint Eastwood video for emphasis.
          .
          My cousin Hope misspoke when he said I was a Psyche. Forgive me but Psyche reading is beyond me.
          .
          A man has to know his limitation!
          .
          K.H

          • Hayat Adem

            Lovely! This means if zoomed in extreme close-up, zero knowledge means no limitation at all as in a baby-child, teenager; if zoomed out, too much knowledge (if it can be said at all) is too many no-go areas.

    • Semere Andom

      Hi Hayat:

      I can live with being annoyed, I can live with being brutally criticized. I can live with heated debated in the parliament questioning my patriotism, I can live with being called traitor and sellout. All is fair game in the art of politics in the context of open, democratic society, where whoever wins the hearts and minds of the voters wins and if he screws up during their tenure, the performance review (elections) will demote him. The scary and ugly part is that those who advocate for peace not with blood but via peaceful means, those who advocate for talking with our roommates in the real estate called Africa are accused of tarnishing the good name Ghedli and Eritrea. But who is really tarnishing the good name of Eritrea and Ghedli and endarnging Eritrean’s hard won of independence? We are told it is YG from the basement of his house. It is Hayat by her long fingers typing away on the keyboard. It is Elsa Chirum for hearing the wailing of the people, we are even told it those who perished in the high seas to give our independence bad name instead of staying put and taking it all, until “gizie msakel shigrom zfiah.” Now to be fair, some of people like Mahmuday and Abraham did not accuse the victims of youth of this crimes, but they accused the former of tarnishing the good name of the hard won independence. But look closely the benign anti-PFDJ sector has unwritten agreement against everyone who questions EPLF that changed its name to PFDJ when it claimed refugee status in the Eritrea and was granted on the based on their deceit or what Dr. Berket called immaculate deception. When like the Nazis who were exposed after their false identies were revealed, the true color of PFDJ has been exposed and is predicated on its precursor and not a plague that inflicted them in the independence epoch

      This comment of yours if it was up to the Nitriccs, who have no clue about Eritrea and its struggles you will be eligible for stoning alive. The irony is the armed struggle was waged to prevent burning of villages and shooting people at random, or to be more accurate, although the armed struggle was started in response to the stimuli of annexation, the mass exodus to the armed struggle did not materialize until the Ethiopians waged war against civilians and exhibited their cruelty. And it is hard to fathom the armed struggled would have become so popular without the help of the Ethiopians and by help, I do no mean theTPLF, I mean the help they inadvertently bestowed to the revolution by the cruelty they unleashed against the innocent people. Those who are giving the armed struggle and independence are PFDJ, its supporters and those who say they want PFDj removed but in their inner most core want transcend ages, to guard the democratization process by rehabilitating itself, not in its currents form that is humialting them but after undergoing some plastic surgery to beautify PFDJ with some silicon implants on the Eritrean people tab

      • Nitricc

        Too much drama for a person who spend a week in Sahil on the way out of country when the braves were answering the call of the nation. Don’t you have un ounce of self respect? You run away when it matters to the nation. You run away like a little girl and why talk now?
        Have a shame. Let the people talk who answered the call of duty. You have no moral obligation to compline.

        • Amde

          Nitricc,

          I am just curious. Did you serve in the ghedli or the badme war, or train in Sawa or do the national service?

          Amde

          • Hayat Adem

            He is not going to answer that. Once, you asked his mentor, the guy who calls this guy the truth teller, a straight question tagged: “hearts and minds, Sal, hearts and minds”. A month has passed and still waiting for him to respond. Ducking away is the thing they do if straight questions are thrown at them. If ducking away seems costly, they go to their patriotic niche tree and start barking out zeraf-flavored name callings from there.

          • Amde

            Hayat,

            Ah you remembered! I thought I would be the only one.

            To be honest nothing is more bizzare on this site than the exercise in romancing Nitricc that the otherwise respectable greybeards engage in. The poor fellow just comes across as a hammer full of cliches, looking for a nail to tamp down.

            Amde

          • Nitricc

            Dedebit it is killing you that you are ignored by the great SAAY, lol trust me, let alone SAAY, you can’t even deal with ordinary Eritrean. so, the point is this, forget SAAY and try to hold on the likes Abinets and Amde’s which they good for nothing but still rejected you in a bead the stupid Weyane to be involved in Eritrea. i am sad for you, what a loser.

          • Hope

            Dear Amde,
            While fighting for our right,DEFENDING Eritrea from the Defamers,the Opportunists,the “Belittlers”,the Chauvenists,the Akaki Zerafs,the Sell-outs,the Pseudo-politicians,and Pseudo-Activists,the Cyber Warriors,the Agents and the Champions of Psycho-war-fare,etc—right here in the Heartland of the Awate Field and standing TALL at the Awate Front–is part and parcel of Ghedli and Sawa,my Brorther.
            Keep it up Nitrikay!
            -“Nihna eritrawiyan Abtihti zikhona kunetin ewanin—kulu bizeyeghidis,niri’esina kinkewin ember nikal’ot kinmesil aynikalesin ena aynidelin dimma”.
            -“Hantin,li’ulawitin,democrasiyawitin,biltsigtin, kulu–bi’ma’ere zinebrela Ertra kinhanits…m’e’antana shet abilna kisab meweda’eta kinikales alenna”.
            -“Kalsina zinewihe entenewhe Awetna ghin Nay ghiddin eyu”!
            The temporary hiccups are but temporary.Ezi ewin kihalif….by all means–Bitsega/Hayli Amlakh!
            Entay’ke zeihalefna?Entayke/kindeyke zeyre’ana?
            Siwu’atna kidibessu eyom,Hidrom dimmani kitigber eyu!
            Kikhewin eyu kemey zeikewin!

          • Amde

            Ishi Ato Hope, Ye Nitricc negerefej.

            So, I take it the answer to my question is that Nitricc did NOT participate in ghedli, Badme war or serve in the national service since then?

            Amde

          • Hope

            Dear Amde,
            These are security questions that might not concern you but you will be shocked by the time you find out about Nitric and his business and job description or role.

          • Amde

            Dear Hope,

            What is there to be shocked about? From what he said, I can guess he is a junior/mid-level officer in one of the US services (likely Army or Marines). He can’t possibly be a senior officer, neither can he be actively deployed – he wouldn’t be able to spend so much time on this forum if he wasn’t at a desk somewhere.

            Anyway, that by itself is not unique – there are many Ethiopians like that, as well as from many other countries. I personally know some that have served in Iraq and Afghanistan. Kudos to him for his personal service and bravery.

            My question is whether he has served in the Eritrean military in any active capacity. He has a tendency to see everything as a military problem when it isn’t necessarily so. This is not a personality defect – it is just a matter of the military training he has had. This is the primary reason one needs civilian oversight over militaries.

            What is fundamentally wrong with what he said about Semere is the implication that unless he has had military service of some kind, he or his opinion deserve no consideration. This is identical to the tegadelti’s attitude abut sharing power with those who didn’t fight, which as you might imagine is the core problem hindering democracy. This is a problem in Ethiopia too by the way, and many other places where liberation fighters have a hard time transitioning to democracy.

            Actually to be honest with you I like him (when I think about it, I don’t know who I do not like in this forum lol). He just comes across as really young and still full of piss and vinegar as the americans say. I hope he makes use of the resources he has available to be more tempered and measured.

            Amde

          • Abinet

            Amde
            You raised a good point in ethiopian politics. At one time in our history, if you don’t belong to eprdf you are
            “timkhitegna” , “nefTegna”
            These liberators are all the same. Atleast it looks like EFRDF is getting better we don’t hear those words these days.
            To be honest I do not expect democracy in ethiopia in the near future . If we win against poverty, if we can manage basic health care , vocational education , clean water, shelter , that is more than democracy for me .
            Fighting corruption , nepotism , regionalism etc will be the next step .
            I hope I live long to see a democratic ethiopia.
            I don’t know if you agree with Abraham Maslow’s hierarchy of needs. I do . We are struggling to satisfy our basic needs yet. It will take us very long time to reach the top of the hierarchy . Then we will talk about democracy as a nation.
            Just a thought .

          • Amde

            Abinet

            I also believe in Abraham Maslow’s hierarchy of needs postulation. Kudos to you for mentioning him. I have the same feeling about Ethiopia as well, although I am afraid saying so might be taken as carte blanche by the Powers that be to deny political rights to their opponents.

            It is funny, but as I get older i tend to appreciate small but real changes than revolutionary but fake changes. I dont think we have grasped yet the sociological and political implication of the educational and Urbanization changes in high gear in Ethiopia right now. Those are real changes and they will be the ones to really watch.

            Good post

            Amde

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear Amde,

            My eyes are zero in to this sentence you penned it down in your comment: “This is the primary reason one needs civilian oversight over militaries.” Military mind men always live in old victory, and there is nothing space in their mind to accommodate variety of thoughts. You could identify them easily from their vocabulary and love of military success, where their debates solely anchored on the past. To transform this military minds is hard until they are over populated and substituted by generational mind. Yes you are absolutely right that Civilians should oversight over militarist mind always. Good point.

            Amanuel Hidrat

          • Nitricc

            Aman-H
            Well obviously when the word military comes to your mind you are picturing a bunch of gun touting lunatics. Well, you may want to upgrade your system, it is outdated. Besides; who is more to refrain to go to war a military or a civilian man given the authority? Who do you think to understand more about the consequences of war?
            I am afraid going too much after Ddebit grad; you may be ending up in Dedebit your self. Take it easy.

          • Amde

            Nitricc

            One thing i will say about American generals. They seem to consistently be less war mongers than the civilian politicians. I think this is more recent phenomenon as the vietnam era ones were really different.

            Unfortunately i think they are the exceptions than the rule.

            Amde

          • Nitricc

            Amde, you are absolutely right. US high military brass will fight with the president and the congress to the end before they agree t take the order. Of course it is done behind the doors. The even teach you war is only viable for the last resort. They hate to put their human forces on the ground. What you see now, the likes of drones and there are other unmanned forms of weaponry are the result of unwilling of the US military brasses to place their personal on to harms way. It worked well for the two parties. If something to come up; you have many options to deal with it with out arguing with civilian authorities regarding ground troops. There many Generals who resign because they disagree with president or congress. So, that is one idea and my vision we can use in Africa, at least in east Africa. War to be the last resort.

          • Amde

            Dear Amanuel

            To tie into what you said, let me tell you an old joke.

            An old Dejazmach who used to have a lot of military exploits finally decides to enter a gedam (monastery). Now every day he tells stories of his exploits to the other monks.

            One day one of the monks had gotten kinda tired and says “Dejazmach.. ingidih gedam gebtewal indih yale were duro yeqere new inji izih aygebam.” (You are in a monastery now, such talk is no longer appropriate.)

            The Dejazmach responds,
            ” ye Mikael enna ye Gebriel gedil beyeqenu sineger yene minnew yiqeral”

            Amde

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear Amde,

            This good one, and befitting to our encounters who loves old history but never stop from irritating by “broad thinking.”
            regards,

          • Nitricc

            Amde, you seem to be surprised at my post to Semere; surprise not. In my world; every thing is earned and nothing is given. The greatest and the major problem of Africa is Africans demand more, what they are welling to put down. What does Semere has done to throw the tantrum he has? He never missed a meal in his life, he never breaks a sweat for the country yet he has audacity to accuse and judge the people who have done everything. Semere took the liberty to smack down at the people with out earning the privilege to do so.Nothing is given and everything is earned.

            “If the Great Way perishes there will morality and duty. When cleverness and knowledge arise great lies will flourish. When relatives fall out with one another there will be filial duty and love. When states are in confusion there will be faithful servants”

            I am just serving the truth! During state of confusion.

          • Amde

            Nitricc

            And therein is the rub.

            There are rights inherent and inviolably your because you are a human beIng/a citizen. Those are not earned.

            Otherwise society will be a vicious cycle of right-earning on every damn issue every damn day.

            Amde

          • Hope

            Thanks Gashie Amde,for yur response and constructive feedback.
            Nothing personal bro!
            Me:
            I am who I am,Hope will stay the same Hope.
            Plus,do not mix me with Cyber Politicians,Cyber-Activists,Cyber Oppositions,etc…I am an Independent Eritrean Citizen,who goes with the “FLOW” with some precaution.
            I support the EPDP Program when it comes to a Political Program,but I am not yet a member or Partisan.I like my Freedom,Independence and my own Space but do believe in a constructive feedback.I am eager to know more about things and situations that I do not know enough.
            I vote as an Independent Citizen here in the USA.
            Others:
            I care less about what people might say as long as they do NOT affect the others negatively…..as people are entitiled to their opinions,stand,ideology,etc—-
            As to Nittric,I might or might NOT him and his details.”Shocking”,in a sense that he might be beyond what people consider him based on some words thrown here about him.
            Do NOT judge a book by its cover.As to the “Unique Language” he is using,well,that is him.and his style,which he is entitiled to,provided that he does NOT cross the Redline about others and their rights,in my opinion….But one thing I know is that he is a “Benign” Human Being besides being an Intelligent Young Eritrean-(American) !

      • Hayat Adem

        Well said, if people come here to give and take ideas, a lot is on the plate. You have been among the ones offering the best. Foods is in full display. The richest nutrient stuff are there, some only foamy, some only aceto are also in the mix. Eaters must not be confused with noisy call-outs. Some of them are here to disturb the clear sight and calm internalization. The ones one row behind are smarter but have nothing to offer except the false glory and continuity of ghedli. What we want is a stable space so that we can plan the future and do inventory on PFDJ/EPLF/Gedli.

      • Hope

        Sir,
        I would love if you focus on such kind of kummegher!
        Well said!
        But please be advised that people are not accusing Hayat for the truth she telling,which we all know,btw!
        We would like to see things beyond the past and work on real issues with honesty,truthfulness and in a balanced and realistic way!
        Ghedli era and its history is good only for learning purposes.
        Irrespective of its drawbacks like any Liberation movement, it has achieved the Primary Goal.
        Now it is upto us to correct things and move on!
        What the heck has the EPLF or ELF thing to do in 21st century Eritrea.
        1960,70s- and 80s are bygones
        Why should Mahmouday et al be blamed for the crimes of the EPRP or the EPLF secret Party Leadership?
        They should be respected and celebrated!
        Let us live better in /for 2015 by learning from 1970 and 80s.

        • Semere Andom

          Hi Cousin Hope:
          Am I demoted from the cousinship now;-)

          • Hope

            Sem,
            In fact,your are being promoted,Sir!
            U have a brilliant mind but kind of frustrated by your old-styled arguement about the EPLF.
            Let us focus on the PFDJ and its brutal security apparatus.

    • Mahmud Saleh

      Dear Gual Adem:
      1. I know exactly who is picking my name.
      2. zeraf? you mean like in the እምቢ ያለ ሰው ጥይት ኣግርሰው?
      3. Eritreans will break the cordon of ill-wishers. No, doubt about that. It will also establish the rule of law many are struggling to see. Rest assured, Eritreans are not measured by the few pessimists and cynic whose company you enjoy here. Justice seekers are not measured by the few whose tunes impress you.
      4. stay tuned.

      • Hayat Adem

        ማሕሙዳይ- ትውሰኸሉ’ለኻ ‘ምበኣር! ካልእ ቁምነገር’ ምበር ዘራፍስ ናይ ገድሊ ኣይምወሓደን!

        • Mahmud Saleh

          Dear Gual Adem
          ከምቲ እቶም ገድሊ “ይከኣሎ” ዝብልዎ ድዩ? ዘፍርሕ የብሉን ማለት እዩ። ግን ዝከኣሎ ህዝቢ ደኣ ጓለይ እንታይ ትብልዮ?
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckL2CnrxI0I

          • Hayat Adem

            I love wedi tkul and his songs. I’m not sure if many people in this forum know that he is also very witty and provocatively funny.

          • Mahmud Saleh

            If you compare both male giants of that era, FiHira and wedi Tukul, FIhIra is a bit shy and furtive, it takes him time till he gets his composure. While wedi Tukul as U said is witty and easy going. He could pick up his Kirar at any time and sing ፈንጂ ወሲድዋ እግረየ ጎምበል…(tsk-tsk..ሰመረ ኣይስማዕ)
            In 1981, wedi Tukul was in his honeymoon (ghedli style), and this young (I was younger then, Hayat) girl tegadalit wanted me to take her to him. I had met him earlier that week through a mutual friend. We went there and as usual he was playing his Kirar for everybody who wanted to listen; he was at the peak of his game then. Upon or return, she said ጓል ኣንስተይቲ ምዃነይ እምበር ሎሚ ተፈሊጡኒ። Let me tell you the truth: I felt so bad about myself.

          • Hayat Adem

            Did you pick up your Krar and went back to wediTikul and say “በጃኻ’ባ ወዲ ትኹል- ሓንሳብ ጉሮረኻ ኣለቀሓኒ፡)

          • Mahmud Saleh

            እታ ክራር ‘ኳ ክኢለያ። እንተ እቲ ጎሮሮ ካበይ ይምጻእ! ዓመታት ወሲዱለይ ጎሮሮ ዘይትጠልብ ቆልዓ ክረክብ።

          • Hayat Adem

            The other problem would be the fact that you wouldn’t stand a chance (no offence) with wediTikul. Besides his likability and celeb advantage, he is also effortless with women and he claims more than his share. There was an instance of a cross-crash issue with Zawia. I know both wouldn’t mind being discussed here. Fhira would.

          • Mahmud Saleh

            You want to put me in trouble now. YeleKulan. I agree with me not standing a chance, though.

          • Hayat Adem

            ጽናሕ’ባ ንወዳእያ ‘ዛ ዕላል….

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Haye beli Qexli gual Adem

          • Hayat Adem

            ከይደ- ደሓን ሕደር!

          • Mahmud Saleh

            BSalam Hderi

  • selam

    As Mahmud explained clearly these opposition has no motive to solve eritrean problem except their own photo show up in a hidden place , who knows what they told the Turks .We can say the same for these who are going to debre zeit and other ethiopian places ,.
    The line is clear , eritreans really do not want a divided country by religion or some one like the one from Amhara or from tigray (YG) to join ethiopia. We are looking for a democratic country, not joining ethiopia or getting advice from Islamist .

    And to all my friends who are thinking and wishing change in eritrea , just give me one example that any governement get thrown out from power from outside just by talking alone. HGDEF is sitting in a Billion dollar and almost a silent majority to walk to the last minute to see issias death.The surprising point is also there more people who want him just to introduce change (we have seen that with drafting the law of the land ). There are also almost 60% young eritreans who are living in europe or america who just forget about the current situation of eritrea but continue to make their live better abroad.so do we choose like stay like that and see HGDEF put his both legs in a train crash and settle . OR do we form a formidable opposition out side and help eritreans achieve their own ideas in eritrea we will see. But from my experience i have seen people who are just opportunistic and has no room for compromise and give priority to the Eritrean people suffering.

  • Tesfabirhan WR

    Did you say, “…such is not going to work and they will never ever get a sun light in Eritrea unless all of young and old change tactics and comes…”. Well, we will help you to remove PFDJ anyway. Not because you called us but we want to. After the removal of PFDJ, if JUSTICE is installed, well and good. That is our objective. Just cool down and good luck for your struggle.

    Justice is not what you are struggling for. We are fighting to install another house made dictator.

    selam habtey, amena endo aytikotie, egis beli.

  • Mahmud Saleh

    There is a clear picture getting clearer within the opposition.
    1. decent justice seekers ( They never care where they where, what concerns is what they can do for their people now, tomorrow and after tomorrow)>
    2. sellout bigots who have already enslaved themselves to anti-Eritrea enemies (countries, interest groups, NGOs…) and who are thriving on the plight of our people.
    These individuals could easily be identified by parroting familiar lines of degrading Eritreans. Most importantly, look for andnetawyan familiar lines, and cross check them out with what these “justice seekers” say. It’s a YG “history” coated with ELF/EPLF anecdotes. Look how they reduce the history of both organizations’ tegadelti/bases …to their wicked narrow narration? YG sugared by ELF tegadelti grievances! Huh…sing it to yourself and your whatever (aka handlers).
    One thing is clear, serious folks, you have no business in this rubbish cycles. You don’t have to knock at their doors; you can have your own way of struggle, you should never settle for their definitions. Get your own.
    Thanks and have a wonderful day.

    • Kokhob Selam

      what happened today to you man? do you get your tea or coffee? first of all YG or others who most of us call Andenetawyan are not sellout bigots. they have there own principle and similar people were always there in history. it is another choice and principle for them. they are equally in deep shit as those nonsense reformists. they both kill the dignity of our people and people don’t follow them. they seem opposite but both are calling slavery.

      truth is very clear, Justice seekers are dignified people who respect their history and respect others history and are willing to reconcile the past and they totally live in now. they don’t give up and surrender due to the weak points they have, ready to fight to the maximum to create legal system.

      Mahmuday, you might be one of the best thinkers but accept you have your own weakness as everyone of us. the clear picture you think may not be right. so come and say it after reading mine. for me YG and reformists are the same by from efferent direction.

      • Tesfabirhan WR

        Dear KS,

        You said it right and I would like to go a little more.

        The YG camp are deleting our 30 years quest for independence and the reformists are blocking our 100 years quest for FREEDOM.

        The YG camp has no tanigble force to accomplish their revisionism and opportunism but the Reformists are supported by the only and only one brutal dictator in Asmara. The reformists never care for freedom but power. As far as they remain in power, who cares about justice.

        Therefore, Justice seekers will own their freedom no matter how long it takes. It has started during the Italian period and has reached its peak during the PFDJ era, now. FREEDOM is freedom. We all know that black slaves got their freedom after 200 years struggle and even today it is not fully achieved. The same will be for the Eritrean people.

        tes

    • Tesfabirhan WR

      Dear Mahmuday,

      To make your lines clear, YG never sugar-coated any segment of our national struggle for freedom. He broadly diminished the Ghedli era by saying that all was not needed. But I may with you that there are other kinds of opportunists who use the ELF-EPLF issue to pursue their mission.

      On the other side, rejection is not the solution. Even with the opportunists, we need to sit and tell that their motive is baseless. If we reject them now they will go on multiplying in hundreds. Lets look on the ELF case, EPLF and then PFDJ rejected them thinking that they will die with their ideas. Ideas never die. We need to know this fact. Even the issue of Noe-Andet will never die by rejection. We should sit with them and discuss on the impossibility of such revisions.

      The other part, as usual, it is a kind of declarations and we are all familiar with such tahdid (manoeuvring). hateta gina yehtsiraya, ayagebnan.

      tes

      • Mahmud Saleh

        Tes
        Although I m losing appetite, I see some Interesting points in your replies. I will try to address them sometime in the future.
        Regards
        .

        • Tesfabirhan WR

          Mahmud,

          Don’t worry. I am very hopeful that I will make your apetite alive through continuous effort. Just let’s remember no matter how we get into sour, PEACE is above all. I will try leaning fast so that we can have effective communication.

          Regards
          tes

    • Hope

      Relax Mahmouday,
      This is the same old new tactic used by the enemies and the so called Opposition to divert attention and to get some attention.
      Simple PR Gimmick used by the TPLF–advising this group to go Turkey to say something bad/as a continuation of its Routine Defamatory Campaign against/ about Eritrea/or the PFDJ/GoE by using the Turkish President’s visit as an opportunity.
      This reminds me about the “Kolama(Lowlanders) Liberation Front” engineered by Col Menghstu et al and led by the same Puppet,the same old ELF guy/Mr.khalifa et al, that Col Menghistu and his Essepa Gang tried to take advantage of.We know these guys at a “Personal Level” and theitr Opportunistic Stand and flip-flopping details.This Group was created and used as a Final Measure to weaken the Eritrean Struggle when the Struggle was at its Peak(Nadew and Fenkil Operations period—the Cover-up Halahal Operation included).
      I hate to say this but I attended a “Unique Meeting ” in 1989 with Guad Khalifa,Guad Bekhit,Mr Suleiman (the then keren Youth Secretary/Halafi)?(sorry if I messed up names),Mr Hussein?(the then Keren Adminstrator-a serious EPLF Double Agent,who saved my life, and few top WPE(Workers Party of Ethiopia/Essepa Officials in Keren—bla,bla…(.as a “Double Agent”,huh?);and .calll me,if you wish, a self-serving, self-righteous and sefl-aggrandizing opportunist but I have to tell you that History is just repeating itself.
      This few groups’ Agenda has NOTHING to do with the Eritrean Lowlanders and Muslims Rights and Justice.We have known them and their evil Agenda from the get to go irrespective of changing their names every morning!
      I said this based on facts and experieince.
      In the event,if we have a short memory issue,here are the recent historical FACTS:
      The TPLF has created and or sponsored:
      -The RSADO
      -The DMLEK
      -The Blin Democratic Movement(huh,funny,me,Hope to be part of this?)
      -The Islamic Jihad
      -The Saho Liberation Movement
      -Eritrean Highlanders/Movement(aka-Akaleguzay Movement(as it is secretly called)–The Hypocrisy of the TPLF is that it is working hard to break the back bone of Eritrea,the Highlanders/Christians(the PIA’s Regime alleged supporters) while creating another Front?I guess for a Suicide Mission!May be Highlanders against Highlanders(Hamasien vs Akaleguzay Civil War–and the TPLF can do or at least dream it!
      -The Eritrean Christians Movement(on a making)—apparently,as an Antagonsit or Competitor to the EIPJD!!!
      There is a better and alternative way of struggling to bring “The Really Needed Change in Eritrea”.
      N.B.
      Please note that I am not generalizng and making a blanket accusation but pointing the finger at that particular group that I had a “bad experience” with.
      But,hey,Tihim zibele yitahagom ghiddi–as that is the TRUTH!

      • Hope

        Addendum:/Correction:
        FYI,for those who know him well,by “Bekhit”,I mean Mussie Bekhit.
        Plus,let me be CLEAR here.
        -Make NO mistake and please make sure you understand me that,I am NOT,by any means,against those Justice Seekers with a Legitimate Struggle for Justice–be them Animists,Christains,Muslims,Atheists,etc…

        • Abinet

          Hope
          Are you a tplf double agent ? You sound like trying to cover up something . I know you were an EPLF double agent as most eritreans were as you proudly told Us before.
          How do we trust each other again?

  • Berhe Y

    Dear EIPJD,

    Congratulations on your successful mission to speak on behalf of Eritrea and Eritreans in your capacity. Turkey is an important country and it may be a good player for positive change in our country.

    I think by know we ALL should know and understand that, there is nothing left in the regime of Isayas Afeworki that benefits the Eritrean people and as such anyone who player a role in removing the regime should be encouraged.

    Berhe Y.

  • yigermal

    Weyane is in your imagination not my post:)

  • ppp

    we do not need any change think twice

  • Hope

    Gedeb News:
    Clarification,please.
    1)Was this done at the Turkish Government level(Turkish Politicians??)or just by the EIPJD’s own initiative?
    2)If the former,does it mean that the Turkish Gov recognized the EIPJD as an Eritrean Political Party?
    3)And if so,does it mean that the Turkish Gov severed its diplomatic relationship with Eritrea?
    4)As Sem Hfoonay declared,what is the implication of the Turkish President’s Visit to Ethiopia and the EIPJD’s visit to Turkey at the same time?
    This is out of curiosity,not that the Gedeb News or the AT has the right or obligation to speculate or analyse and the questions are thrown for DEBATE mainly focusing on the need and the implication of Region,Ethnic and Religion based Political Parties in future Eritrea,which at one time we exhausted ,including during our participatory debate on the Ratified Cnstitution of 1997.
    Again,I admit that it is unfair and saddening though to divert our attention from the main and INKO goal of fighting for a Real Change in a United way,rather than in a “Divided” and uncoordinated Way.
    We have enough common denominator to fight the system and there is no need to create other secondary “denominators”.
    I am fully aware that the EPDP and the EDA to some extent have done similar “Meetings” with the EU and Middle East “Politicians” respectively….Was/is this a similar one by the EIPJD?
    I guess,as Sem the Hfoonay/the Satirist/the Joker expressed it using his codes,the coincidence of the Turkish President’s visit to Ethiopia and the EIPJD’s visit to Turkey that tirggered me to pose my questions…besides taking into consideration the TPLF’s unsatiable destructive dreams,actions,evil wishes,Policies,etc..against Eritrea as a Nation and Eritreans as a People…

  • Tesfabirhan WR

    Dear Yacob,

    I kindly ask you to be patient with disqus. yesterday, it has swallowed my comment for almost more than 8 hours, yours is only 1 hr difference as I can see it. I waited patientely and it appeared. And I can see yours at the bottom if it is on the same comment you are talking about.

    I believe that if AT are not happy with your comments, they will delete it and will tell you why.

    Just to be away from unfounded accusations.

    tes

  • Semere Andom

    Turkey meets Ethiopian government and Turkey meets Eritrean opposition, Interesting times!

  • Tesfabirhan WR

    Dear Gedab News providers,

    What I see these days is that a powerfull organizational thinking is evolving. The evolution of such moves helps an alternative system build-up. I fully endorse for such positive developmens.

    Hawkumn
    tes

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    Meditation on naming style:

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    Still contempleting on the parties “could be mission oriented naming style and indeed it is”, I don’t understand why some of our political parties/organizations want to follow the naming style of PFDJ. PFDJ has “for” as a preposition in between. For is defined as

    1. “For” as a preposition “intended for” – Intended to be given to
    2. “For” as a preposition “purpose” – having the purpose of.

    Simple questions

    a. Justice and Development intended to be given to “whom”? or to “what’
    B. Is Justice and Development a “purpose” or a vision, mission, objective or a strategy?

    Eritrean Islamic Party (FOR) Justice and Development. Why “FOR” is put in between?

    Let’s look the Turkish counter party, Turkish Justice and Demeocratic Party.

    On the surface, they both may look the same but thinking deeply and having an experience of the PFDJ, such nominations are left open for exploitation just like that of PFDJ.

    Some thoughtful questions:

    When will be achieved Justice and Development if the party is working for it? An innocent person from an horrible and sour/bitter experience of PFDJ is obliged to ask such innocent questions and it meant to know the exact time frame or what it stands for. PFDj is claiming day and night that he is fighting (for) Justice and Development and it has already took him 20 years to do so and has never achieved any single drop of it rather he burried justice and democracy.

    Eritrean Islamic Party (FOR???) Justice and Development (EIPJD)
    Turkish Justice and Development Party (TJDP)

    Just meditiating

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  • T..T.

    Sometimes fearless pens help to make topic-storming to identify similar issues and the likely situations to be created. So, let’s drop our wise words.

    While the opposition should welcome such moves on behalf
    of the Eritrean opposition, always caution must be exercised not to be tools of
    powers currently involved in creating chaos in countries surrounding the Arab
    Gulf countries by empowering some elements to let anarchy take over. It is everyday fact that once the system of
    the targeted country collapses the catastrophic process of becoming a failed
    state takes effect thereby spilling over into the neighboring countries. Indeed, the opposition should not act as time bombs
    awaiting the departure of Isayas. If the opposition can convince the very few countries that support Isayas to continue to be tyrant, the Eritrean headache will get 90 percent or not 100 percent relief from Isayas daily power abuses. Safe moves that ensure safe future should be commended BTW,
    don’t forget what Isayas warns of no peace if removed by force.