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Bridge Over Mereb and Other Rivers

[This article is being republished on awate.com with the consent of the Editorial Team of Discourse Magazine to which it was contributed. The maiden edition of the magazine which is published by The Ethiopian Foreign Relations Strategic Studies Institute appeared on Thursday, 19 January 2017. You access the Amharic audio translation of this article here. ]

In a 2010 interview, I asked the late PM Meles Zenawi if Eritrean ports have lost Ethiopian business forever or they would regain the lost opportunities in the future. He answered, “the demand of the Ethiopian economy is going to go beyond the capacity of Tajura and Djibouti ports.” He also said, “Ethiopia was beginning to develop the potassium resources in the Afar region… millions of tons per year that need to be transported” and that the closest port was not even Assab but Ti’o. And that, “under normal situation, Eritrea could regain most of these businesses and develop new businesses as well.”

It sounds presumptuous to harp only on the access to the sea when addressing Ethiopian-Eritrean relations. The two countries have deeper cultural and familial ties; it’s important to consider Assab as an opportunity for cooperation and not as a destabilizing factor. The scope of relations between the two countries should not be limited to access to ports. It is worth noting that so far, both countries have become victims of their closeness to one another.

Eritrean ports are indispensable for Ethiopia, though Ethiopia has a choice of other ports such as Port Sudan, Mombasa, Berbera, and Djibouti. If the current growth rate continues to hold, and with a population nearing 100 million, Ethiopia will need additional ports to satisfy its foreign trade requirements-more than what Eritrea could have provided. But it’s not all about seaports.

Peace and stability is vital for the Ethiopian-Eritrean border areas whose residents, ironically, never saw their relations disrupted even during the turbulent years of the armed struggle. The two countries share over 900 Kilometers long border and its security is of para-mount importance. Sparsely populated areas cannot be left open to infiltration; densely populated regions cannot be strangulated by red tapes. The two countries can ill afford a psychological wall to stand between them let alone a physical one that extremists from both sides aspire to build. Even China, which is known for its Great Wall, had to demolish it psychologically and convert the physical wall into a major tourist attraction.

The Commonality

In ancient times, the Aksumite Kingdom, which belonged to both sides, was the epicenter of an old political, commercial and cultural region whose radius reportedly extended to Mecca, Medina, Sana’a, Hadramout, and Zeila. It was an era where religions and cultures morphed, and languages enriched each other. Saint Yared, the legendary 6th century CE Ethiopian composer, who believed to have invented the Ethiopian Orthodox church chants and music notation, is a product of that Christian era when the radius of Aksum’s interaction extended further to Alexandria. It was a time when scholars contributed to a rich knowledge base, including religious studies. People moved freely from one corner to the other. Trade routes crisscrossed the sea and the land. Yet,  authority didn’t shift far from the Aksumite epicenter.

That was soon followed by the Muslim period and the region, one can argue, entered its second golden era. Arts, architecture and scholarship developed, and collaboration between Christian and Muslim scholars resulted in significant works, such as the Kibre Negest, codes, documents, epic and narratives that are much revered by Ethiopian Christians to this day. That period of religious tolerance was negatively affected by the incursions of fanatic Jesuits into Ethiopia.

Towards the end of the 15th century CE, the Moors were totally expelled from the Iberian Peninsula leaving behind Portuguese zealous with vengeful grudges against Muslims who occupied Iberia for almost 800 years. By then, the Portuguese had developed an interest in “Christian Abyssinia” and the Roman Catholic Church appointed a Portuguese national as its patriarch. In their zealotry, the Jesuits required Orthodox Ethiopians to convert to the Roman Catholic faith. They didn’t like “the [Abyssinian] Church’s tradition of dependence on the Egyptian Coptic Church.” Considering the religious relations between Alexandria and Aksum an aberration, they looked down on the Orthodox Christianity that coexisted with Islam peacefully before their involvement, and they planted the seed of confrontational posture between Islam and Christianity in Ethiopia. Finally, the fanatic Jesuits brought about their downfall when they demanded that Ethiopian Orthodox Christians be baptized anew!

The Jesuit involvement had in turn invited the involvement of the equally zealot Turks in the region, and it led to a religious civil war (1529-1543) between Hatse Lebne Dengel, followed by Hatse Gelawdeos, who led Christian forces, and Ibn Imam Ahmed, who led the Muslim forces. As coexistence between Christians and Muslims was disrupted, the region entered into an era replete with bloody confrontations that forced Muslims to cling to the wider regional affiliation of the past, while the Christians maintained weak links with Alexandria.

Most of the causes of the current predicament of both Eritrea and Ethiopia can be traced to a history of feudalism that continued until the 20th century. It is a history that made some Eritreans to accept Italian colonization, which they considered better than the Ethiopian oppression. It is also what led to the creation of the liberation movements. It is part of the history of the region that was never allowed serious closure and, therefore, the wounds continue to fester.

Blame it all on Past Ethiopian Rulers

Unlike the nation-states of the West whose social groups have mostly morphed into manageable sections, the region in question is still home to diverse societies. They were dismembered and put in arbitrary fences dividing indigenous people based on the wild and mendacious creativity of foreign cartographers. The foreigners are still active in the neighborhood. They are surveying Darfur, Sudan to build a new fence, knowing well that such undertaking ushers more mayhem and destruction.

In 1952, Emperor Haile Selassie I of Ethiopia crossed a bridge over the Mereb River to Eritrea amid fanfare and jubilation. He had presented himself as a savior, though he was pursuing goals for an imperial expansion. Soon, that jubilation waned when the appeasement and cunning politics jumped out laced with the historical feudal bitterness, particularly for the Eritrean elites, who had tasted a short-lived freedom under the British administration. By arbitrarily demolishing the Mereb fence, the Emperor cast a spell upon Eritrea and Ethiopia; that gamble was the cause of the bloody era of destruction that lasted for decades until the “independence” of Eritrea that heralded the birth of a totalitarian regime.

Though the average Ethiopian or Eritrean doesn’t wish for instability, when the elites embark on a war, many people reach for their rusted guns, if not their spears and swords. For the most part, the elites have been working from an outdated manual when dealing with social and political problems; the enmity of the border war of 1998-2000 was further fueled by parochial rivalries that are based on exploits of warlords who knew little apart from pushing bloody campaigns.

Mythology is an important component in nation-building regardless of whether the countries came into being as a result of conquests or as a creation of foreign powers. Eritrea is a victim of both. A serious researcher on the social and political aspects of the two countries needs to go deep into history and mythology, though parts of that history are too recent to be considered a myth. Unfortunately, at any given chance, those issues that are buried in a shallow layer of the collective memories of both people are invoked to serve the narratives of the present. And they are so user-friendly for the gullible. They can be shaped and molded to serve any purpose.

Mythology is an important component in nation-building regardless of whether the countries came into being as a result of conquests or as a creation of foreign powers. Eritrea is a victim of both exercises. It has gone through the course of nation-building by paying heavy sacrifices: the pain of colonial rule and the armed struggle. Unfortunately, having accomplished the glorious goal of independence, Eritreans failed in state-building. The current totalitarian Eritrean regime sits over a deformed state that doesn’t reflect the aspiration of the people. Mythology and colonization have both played a destructive role in the current predicament of Eritrea. Today it is engulfed in devastating crisis, mainly as a result of its rulers’ exaggerated self-perception, aspiring to become the alpha males of the region. And the destructive rivalry with the leaders of the Ethiopian government led to a destructive border war, which is informed by mythology and emotional grievances. It became lethal simply because enough of the elites from both countries subscribe to it and fan its flames.

Thinking of a Sunrise

Policymakers in the region cannot help the situation without understanding the social and geographical complexities – including the region’s history and mythology. Post 1991 Ethiopia chose the path of a federal system among nations and nationalities, which seems to be working fine. But some elements in the Ethiopian political landscape seem to be lost on understanding the actual complexities in Eritrea; many Eritreans suspect that is why they keep promoting the idea of establishing an Ethiopian replica in Eritrea. Many Eritreans do not condone that, and not because it does not serve the hegemonic aspiration of a certain segment of Eritreans as is widely insinuated. At the same time, many Eritreans do not want to be denied the right to decide for their own regions. Self-rule within a unitary state is the most viable option for Eritrea. Also, reinstating the traditional and historical regional division of Eritrea would be acceptable by many political parties. Power must devolve from the center so that the regions can administer themselves without a central tyrant imposing his will on them.

Throughout our remembered history, Eritrean regions, sects, ethnic groups have lived in relative harmony, and there is no recorded serious division as in recent years. The mistrust and disharmony among Eritreans are mainly the making of the totalitarian Eritrean regime, which provided a fertile ground for primordial sentiments to be revived. In other words, the situation in Eritrea is exasperated by the repressive rule of the regime. However, Ethiopia’s role in helping prevent that has not been satisfactory – not because it is duty bound to do so but remembering that none of Eritrea’s neighbors have played a decisive role in the fate of Eritreans as Ethiopia did. Thus, its active role is not only a strategic necessity but a duty. Unfortunately, the other important Eritrean neighbor, represented by the current Government of Sudan, has disqualified itself from any role by choosing to be an ally and an enabler of the Eritrean regime. Ethiopian policymakers cannot afford to ignore the gap that is widening across the Eritrean social, regional, and religious divide. These divergences are too risky to watch silently; they are cracks through which bigger determinant problems could seep-in to make it unmanageable.

Moderate Eritreans believe they have enough leverage and goodwill among their people to defeat Isaias and his regime; Eritrea’s neighbors should focus on encouraging and supporting this strain within the Eritrean political camp.

Ethiopian authorities and the Eritrean resistance forces need to reach an understanding on the strategic relations between the two countries and people; once the intents of both are declared in a sort of genuine memorandum of understanding, the Eritrean forces should be left to their own devices, with less interference to reach strategic and tactical decisions. To this date, no such meaningful debate has taken place between Eritreans and Ethiopians apart from a few meetings and seminars with unclear agendas and conclusions.

Looking ahead, the often-repeated fact regarding the close relations between the two peoples should not be taken for granted; intellectuals and politicians of the two countries need to define and redefine these relations in strategic terms. The relations should provide tangible benefits for the two countries and not be considered ceremonial speech-feelers or words uttered for mere social nicety.

Today, the bridge that Emperor Haile Selassie I crossed in 1952 is politically and emotionally demolished; physically it has remained insignificant since 1998. Instead, it is essential to building a wider, modern, durable bridge that all should be able to cross freely, without dividing Eritreans and Ethiopians into toll-collectors and toll-payers.

Between 1991 and 1997, the two new governments signed many agreements: security, financial, economic, and political. As far as Eritreans are concerned, those agreements were designed and implemented with the PFDJ, the Eritrean ruling party, as a monopolizing power in mind. Still, though many Eritreans were denied the benefits from such agreements, they accepted it thinking the situation will improve with time. They found themselves splashed with cold water when the two countries went to war, and even the uninitiated ended up paying for the consequences.

The envisioned bridge should be erected with the intention of serving all stakeholders in the two countries with impartiality, unlike the bridge that Haile Selassie crossed in 1952, and it should also not be an unfair bridge similar to the one that connected the two governments between 1991 and 1997.

Though Ethiopia has made a remarkable stride in many fields and is pursuing the right path, both countries are on the lower rungs of the development ladder and are far behind in every human development indices. Both countries need a sense of urgency to build such a bridge since in this age neither Eritrea nor Ethiopia can afford to keep on falling behind. It is a fast-moving age and the power of mythology is diminishing and losing its efficacy. As more and more countries in Africa are going through – and succeeding – in the democratization process, current and future despotic regimes will find it difficult to rule with an iron fist. Building a durable bridge is a historical inevitability.

Eritrea is very much damaged after more than two decades of brigandage and repression; the band holding Eritreans together has been stretched so much that there is a risk it might snap. If the repressive Eritrean regime is removed without dealing with the subdued political wills of the society – and tens of thousands of firearms scattered everywhere – there is a genuine fear of serious polarization that only benefits warlords and gangs. Instead of a national army, Eritrea has a large armed force that is being managed as a private militia of a totalitarian regime. That poses a serious risk to the security of Eritrea and the entire region. Unfortunately, the Eritrean opposition doesn’t fare any better; it also holds the seeds for such disaster unless it forms an umbrella group that commands political authority.

Welcoming a Sunrise

Eritrea would benefit from a developed Ethiopia. A failed Ethiopia doesn’t translate into a victory for Eritrea as perceived by the ego-driven militarist bravado of the Eritrean regime. Ethiopia’s failure doesn’t translate into tangible benefits for Eritreans. In fact, the Eritrean regime, for instance, doesn’t think of the market that the Asseb port is supposed to serve; it is content with putting a division dedicated to guarding an idle port—rumored foreign use of the port notwithstanding.

From the outset, the Eritrean case was all about freedom and justice, never for anything else. Ideologies and partisan politics were not at the core of what the average Eritrean expected after the epic struggle. Of course, ideologies are important in a struggle, for they shape the future governance of a state. But ideologies are not an end in themselves. Unfortunately, since the Eritrean struggle delivered neither the freedom nor the justice it set out to achieve, some demoralized individuals have questioned the validity of the entire journey. However, resilient Eritrean patriots simply recognize that the lofty goals they pursued are not yet achieved in full. That is a confirmation that there remains an additional journey to tread. And, hopefully, this time when the destination is reached, it will not be based on goodwill or naiveté. Real justice and freedom must be achieved. And that is why the Eritrean resistance is ravaged by mistrust and rivalry – everyone needs to hear a declaration of intents as a preliminary guarantee for the protection of the lofty goals. They should strive to disallow anyone from eroding the ideals of the struggle.

Eritreans ought to envision peaceful relations with all their neighbors, particularly with Ethiopia. Eritreans should assure Ethiopia of their genuine intents: good neighborliness, security, equitable deal in accessing the sea, trade, and commerce. Ethiopia should also assure Eritreans of genuine intents: good neighborliness, security, territorial integrity and abstention from the operational heavy-handedness. That kind of conviction in itself would guarantee a prosperous, fruitful, peaceful and stable relationship between the two countries. And in such an environment, politics will be governed by the interest of the people, not by the narrow interest of the elites.

However, before reaching there, a serious discussion should take place between Eritrean and Ethiopian stakeholders, beginning with scholars who have proven track records, not those who would like opportunistically to climb the ladder of power without proving themselves, or investing in the struggle.

About Saleh "Gadi" Johar

Born and raised in Keren, Eritrea, now a US citizen residing in California, Mr. Saleh “Gadi” Johar is founder and publisher of awate.com. Author of Miriam was Here, Of Kings and Bandits, and Simply Echoes. Saleh is acclaimed for his wealth of experience and knowledge in the history and politics of the Horn of Africa. A prominent public speaker and a researcher specializing on the Horn of Africa, he has given many distinguished lectures and participated in numerous seminars and conferences around the world. Activism Awate.com was founded by Saleh “Gadi” Johar and is administered by the Awate Team and a group of volunteers who serve as the website’s advisory committee. The mission of awate.com is to provide Eritreans and friends of Eritrea with information that is hidden by the Eritrean regime and its surrogates; to provide a platform for information dissemination and opinion sharing; to inspire Eritreans, to embolden them into taking action, and finally, to lay the groundwork for reconciliation whose pillars are the truth. Miriam Was Here This book that was launched on August 16, 2013, is based on true stories; in writing it, Saleh has interviewed dozens of victims and eye-witnesses of Human trafficking, Eritrea, human rights, forced labor.and researched hundreds of pages of materials. The novel describes the ordeal of a nation, its youth, women and parents. It focuses on violation of human rights of the citizens and a country whose youth have become victims of slave labor, human trafficking, hostage taking, and human organ harvesting--all a result of bad governance. The main character of the story is Miriam, a young Eritrean woman; her father Zerom Bahta Hadgembes, a veteran of the struggle who resides in America and her childhood friend Senay who wanted to marry her but ended up being conscripted. Kings and Bandits Saleh “Gadi” Johar tells a powerful story that is never told: that many "child warriors" to whom we are asked to offer sympathies befitting helpless victims and hostages are actually premature adults who have made a conscious decision to stand up against brutality and oppression, and actually deserve our admiration. And that many of those whom we instinctively feel sympathetic towards, like the Ethiopian king Emperor Haile Sellassie, were actually world-class tyrants whose transgressions would normally be cases in the World Court. Simply Echoes A collection of romantic, political observations and travel poems; a reflection of the euphoric years that followed Eritrean Independence in 1991.

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    1. ከረን መሬት ኤርትራ’ዶ ኣይኮነን? ባንደራ ኢትዮጵያ ኣብ ኣስመራ ክስቀል ካብ ከኣለ ስለምንታይ ኣብ ከረን ዘይስቀል?
    2. ከረን ነቲ ኣብ ውሽጣ ዝተገብረ ግፎታት ይኹን ንግፍዕታት ዖናን ቢስጊዲራን ከምኡ እውን እቲ ኣብ ልዕሊ ሬሳታት ተጋደልቲ ዝተፈጸመ ኢሰብኣዊ ኣተሓሕዛ ( ኣብ መወአዳእታ ሱሳታት ኣብ ኣከባቢ ገለብ ዝተሰውኡ ተጋደልቲ ኣብ ዕዳጋ ተር ኣቢሎም ሰቂሎሞም፡ ዘይህስስ ስእሊ፡ ኣብ መኽፈቲ መጽሓፍ ሳልሕ ጋዲ እውን ኣላ) ተዘንቱ። ነቲ ብ1977 ንምሕራራ ዝተካየደ ናይ ሰለስተ መዓልቲ ዛንታ እውን ትነግር ትኸውን። ነቲ ብ1988 ንምሓዛ ዝተኻየደ ፈተነን ብዙሕ ክሳራ ዘስዓበ ውግእ እውን ትርሰዖ ኣይመስለንን። ግን ከ ካልኦት ከተማታት ተመሳሳሊ ዛንታ የብለንን እንድየን? ኣስመራ ኸ እተዘንትዎ ግፍዕታት የብላን እንድያ? ባጽዕ ኸ? ንናቕፋስ እስኪ ንግዚኡ ነጽናሓያ? ደሓር ከኣ፡ ኣብ ከተማ ከረንን ኣኽራናታን ንዓመታት ክደፍኡን ክድፍኡን ረሃጾምን ደሞምን ብጾቶምን ክገድፉ ዝዓበዩ’ኮ ተቐመጥቲ እታ ከተማ ኣለዉ እዮም እዮም። ኣብ ሰራዊት እታ ሃገር ኣለዉ እዮም። ኣብ ሓይልታት እታ ሃገር ኣለዉ እዮም። ህዝቢ ከረን ንገዛእ ርእሱ ኣሎ እዩ—ባንደራ ኢትዮጵያ ኣብ ተሰነይ ኣንተትስቀል ኸ? ኣብ ባረንቱ? ኣብ ዓሰብ?
    3. ብዛዕባ እቲ ዝበሃል ዘሎ ዑደት ንገህተብን ክብሮምን እሓድጎ። ግን ስለምንታይ ክንድ’ዚ ረሃጽን ተርባጽን?
    4. ነቶም ፖለቲካዊ ስልጣን ክጭብጡ ጥራይ ዝሓልሙ፡ ህግድፍ ኣብ ስልጣን ክሳብ ዘሎ ክሉ ግዜ ኣንጻር ሞጎት ክጓዓዙ ኣዮም። ብኡ መጠን ድማ “ተቓወምቲ ብዘይ ኣማራጺ ፍታሕ” ኮይኖም ክቕጽሉ እዮም። ቁም-ነገር/እንታይነት (መቕዛ) ናይ ሰላም እቲ ብሰንኪ ሰላም ብቐረባ ዝጉዳእ ዘሎ ህዝቢ ይፈልጦ። ኣብ ኩራ ዝተመርኮሰ ተቓውሞ ኩሉ ግዜ መኣዝን ዘይብሉ ኣብ ጋም-ማን ይነብር። ሰላም መሰረት ብቑዕ ፖለቲካዊ ሂወት፡ መሰረት ሰረት ዘለዎ ፖለቲካዊ ተቓውሞ እዩ። ህዱእ ሓንጎል ዘፈልፍሎ ተቓውሞ እዩ እቲ ዝሓሸ ኣማራጺታት ከመንጩ ዝኽእል። እቲ ባቡር ተበጊሱ እዩ። ሓጎጽጎጽ ክህሉ ትጽቢት ይግበረሉ። ግን እቲ ናይ ኲናት ደበና ክቕንጠጥ ተኽእሎ ምህላዉ ጥራይ ዝድገፍ ክኸውን ይግባእ።
    5. ፖለቲካዊ ኩነታት ኤርትራ ሰላም ብዝወልዶ ሓድሽ ኣተሓሳስባ እዩ ዝቕየር። ምሕጽንታ ናብ ቀዳማይ ሚኒስተር ኢትዮጵያ ብምስዳድ ይኹን፡ ኦኡደቱ ብምቅዋም ኣይክመጽእን እዩ። ቀደም ኢልናኩም ኢና።
    6. ወያነ ኣብ ምክልኻል ከምዘሎ ንጹር እዩ። ኣቶም ኣብ መጥቃዕቲ ዝጥቀመሎም ዝነበረ ሓይልታት ሕጂ እውን ኣብ ምኽልኻል ይጥቀመሎም ኣሎ።
    ትሕዝቶ ናይ’ዚ ኣብ ላዕሊ ዘሎ ነጥብታት “MS ሓላፍነቱ ዝተወሰነ ውድብ”። ምስታ ምዕራፍ መጽሓፍ ሳልሕ ኣይተኣሳሰርን እዩ።
    ዓወት ንርክብ ክልቲኦም መራሕቲ ሃገራት። MS ሓላፍነቱ ዝተወሰነ ውድብ ኣብ ምዕባለታት ኣብ ግዚኡ እና ተኸታተለ ክቕርብ ኣዩ። ገዳይም ልኡኻቱ፡ ገህተብን ክብሮምን ብዝተፈላለየ ኩርንዑ ርእዮም ዕለታዊ ሪፖርታጅ ከቕርቡ እዮም።
    ሓምለ 6፡ 2018
    MS ሓላፍነቱ ዝተወሰነ ውድብ
    S/P ከረን ብሓምለ 8, 1977 ሓራ ወጺኣ ነይራ። ኣጋጣሚ’ዶ ክኸውን ይኽእል?

    • Nitricc

      Your Majesty; did you ask “3. ብዛዕባ እቲ ዝበሃል ዘሎ ዑደት ንገህተብን ክብሮምን እሓድጎ። ግን ስለምንታይ ክንድ’ዚ ረሃጽን ተርባጽን?”
      Well, the Ethiopians and their flags supposed to get to Eritrea and Keren waving on the top of Ethiopian tanks and thousands of Weyane soldiers. I don’t think you understood the pain they are going through. This is not supposed to happen. Now you know all the “our people” and ” our country” BS of the so-called Eritreans.
      Obviously PIA is sticking it to the weyanes and some Eritreans are showing their true colors. The plan is simple, let Ethiopia vacate the land, let the brave Eritrean army be demobilized and let Eritrean live in peace. PIA said all along, there is no peace as along as TPLF is in power and TPLF is not in power and PIA followed through. Again , they are poised of the weyane tanks are roaring in the street of Eritrea, that is all.

    • Kbrom

      Selam boss MS

      I herby submit my first report.

      ክቡራት ተኸታተልትና፡ ነቲ ዘይተኣወጀ ዑደት ቀዳማይ ሚኒስተር ዶክተር ኣቢዩ ንምክትታል ተሓቢኡ ናብ ከተማ ከረን ዝተጓዕዘ ልኡኽና እቲ ልኡኽ ኣብ መፍረ መድሃኒት ከረን ክበጽሕ ኢዩ ኢሉ ስለዝገመተ ኣብቲ ከባቢ ኮይኑ ይከታተሎ ኣሎ። ኣብ ጎደናታት ከረን ሕለት መጋርሕ ዝርከብ ልኡኽ MS ሓላፍነቱ ዝተወሰነ ውድብ ቀዳማይ ስቱር ጸብጻቡ ልኢኹልና ኣሎ ዋና ኣሰናዳኢ ማሕሙድ ሳልሕ ከምዚ ዝስዕብ ጌሩ ኣወሃሂዱ ኣቕሪቡልና ኣሎ።

      ምስ ጎረቤት ሰላምን ፍቕርን ምግባር ኣገዳሲ ኮይኑ ምስ ገዛእ ህዝብኻ ጽልእን ኩናትን እንዳኣወጅካ ምስ ጓና ንሰላም ምጽዋዕ ተኾይኑ ግን ናይ ታሪኽ ስግንጢር ኪኸውን ኢዩ ጥራይ ዘይኮነ ህዝቢ ነቲ ዝተነፍጎ ፍቕርን ሰላምን ነቲ ኣብ ልዕሊኡ ዝተንጸባረቐ ብደዐን ንዕቀትን ኪስዕሮ ካልእ መንገዲ ኪወስድ ኪግደድ ኢዩ ክብሉ ዘዘራረብክዎም ነበርቲ ከተማ ከረን ሓቢሮምኒ።

      ሓደ 5 መግዛእታት ዝረኣዩ ሽማግለ ኣቦ ኣብ ዝሃቡኒ ሓበሬታ ‘ዶብ ሰጊርካ ንጓናን ጸላኢኻን ብቛንቃኡ ንሰላም እንዳጸዋዕካ፡ ነቲ ብቛንቋኻ ንሰላም ዝጽወዓካ ዘሎ ገዛእ ህዝብካ ጸማም እዝኒ ምሃብ ናይ ገበን ገበን፡ ናይ ንዕቀት ንዕቀት ኢዩ ኪኸውን’ ክብሉ ገሊጾምለይ።

      ‘መንግስቲ ኤርትራ ‘መለበሚን ኣይግበርካ’ ኢሉ ከምቲ ገይም ኦቨር ዝበሎ ስርዓት፡ ናቱ ጸወታ እውን ይጽንቀቕ ምህላዉ ተገንዚቡ፡ ልቢ ኣዕቢዩ፡ ምፍታሕ እሱራት፡ ትግባረ ቅዋም፡ ፖለቲካዊ ስልጣን ንህዝቢ ምርካብ፡ ሃገራዊ ዕርቅን ሰላምን ምእዋጅ፡ ብቕጽበት እንተተግቢሩ ዘተባብዕ ስጉምቲ ኪኸውን ኢዩ’ ዝበለኒ ተማሃራይ 4ይ ዓመት ኮለጅ ማይነፍሒ ኢዩ።

      ንሱ ብምቕጻል ‘መንግስቲ ኤርትራ ብኣንጻሩ እምኒ ዓመጹ ክሳብ ዝውዳእ ገበጣ ልዕልና ጫካ ክጻወት እንተወሲኑን፡ ነዚ ሓደገኛ መንገዲ እንተተኸቲሉን ግን ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ደጊም ከምቲ ህዝቢ ኢትዮጲያ ዝገበሮ ጉዳይ ሃገሩ ኣብ ሑቕፊ ኢዱ ከእቱ፡ ሓደ ሰብኣይ ዝኹብኩቦ እኩብ ሰብ ሙኻን ገዲፉ፡ ንሱ ዝኹብኩቦን ንዕኡ ዝምእዘዝን መንግስቲ ከምጽእ፡ ልዕሊ ኩሉ ድማ ልዕልና ሕጊን ቅዋማዊ ስርዓትን ብዘይምዱንጋይ ኪተኽለሉ ዝኽእል ለውጢ ከረጋግጽ ኪብገስ ግድን ኢዩ’ ዝበለኒ ድማ ንነዊሕ ዓመታት ከም ንጡፍ ተቓላሳይ ኮይኑ ክሰርሕ ዝጸንሐ ኣብ ሕቡራት መንግስታት ኣሜሪካ ዝቕመጥ ኣቶ ሳልሕ ጆሃር ኢዩ

      ኣብ ዝሓለፉ 27 ዓመት ዝተኸስቱን ዝቕጽሉ ዘለዉን ዘሰክሑ ዓመጽ ውሑዳት ጉጅለ ብዝፈጸምዎ ምፍራስ ልዕልና ሕጊ ዝሰዓበ እኳ እንተኾነ፡ ንሕና ህዝቢ ኤርትራ እውን ከምኡ እንዳኾነ ብዘርኣናዮ ብኩራት ተቓውሞ እንስከሞ ሓላፍነትን ዝፈጸምናዮ ጌጋን ኣሎ፡ ስለዝኾነ ድማ ካብዚ ተመኩሮ ተማሂርና ንምእራሙን ንዘይምድጋሙን ክንጽዕር ይግባእ ክብል ማሕሙድ ሳልሕ ባዕሉ ነዚ ጸብጻብ ወሲኹሉ ምህላዉ ይሕብር።።

      መደመር ግን ከኣ ነናትካ ቁጽሪ እንዳሓለኻ!

      ሰላም፡ ፍቕርን ልዕልና ሕግን ንመላእ ህዝቢ ኤርትራ!

      ልኡኽ MS ሓላፍነቱ ዝተወሰነ ውድብ
      ከባቢ ሕለት ቡንባ ኣብራይት

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Kbromay,

        ንዓና ኤርትራውያን “መደመር ግን ከኣ ነናትካ ቁጽሪ እንዳሓለኻ” ከምኡውን ሓድነት ምስ ፍትሓውነት ከሰንዮ ኸሎ ክሳዕ ክንደይ ጸጋ ነይሩ::

  • Kbrom

    Hope wranburakhun

    I am just saying, it is worrisome to see any ethnic based confrontation in Ethiopia. I am sure you always remember that Rwandan genocide was planned by members of the core political elite. When there is political and socio -economic tension aligned to ethnic any thing can trigger gruesome events. I am sure you also remember how the 10 Kilowatt small Radio Télévision Libre des Mille Collines (RTLMC), instigated the Rwandan genocide by broadcasting racist propaganda, obscene jokes and music,

    That can affect us too,
    “From one small spark a bushfire grows.
    Sellers of misery are our foes.
    Merging ruthlessly tongues of flame.
    Point your finger at those to blame.”
    ― Paul Anthony

    • Saleh Johar

      Kibrom,
      La Hayat lmemen tunadi—you calling to the lifeless.

  • Abraham H.

    Dear Awatistas, I’m wondering why the dia regime is trying to be so secretive towards the Eritrean people regarding the new peace process between Eritrea and Ethiopia? Why is the regime trying to hide the process from the people? Someone is reporting that Eritrean government employees have been summoned to report to their work places this Sunday to recieve some guests coming from Ethiopia. Isn’t this peace supposed to be between the PEOPLES of Eritrea and Ethiopia? So why not invite the entire Eritrean people to recieve their guests instead of just a section of the society?
    እንታይ ኢዩ እዚ ኹሉ ሕብእብእ? ካብ ምንታይ ንምኽዋል ኢዩ? ኣየ እንዳ ህግደፍ፣ ገመል ሰሪቕካስ ጒምብሕ ጒምብሕ። ዘይተርፈካ ጋሻ ኣጥቢቕካ ሰዓሞ፣ ካብ ሳዕሳዕካስ ተቖጻጸ ኢዩ ‘ሞ ሃየ ህግደፍ ካብ ህዝብኹም ክትሕብኡ ስለዘይትኽእሉ፣ መዓንጣ ጌርኩም፣ እታ ሓንትን ኣማራጺትን ነዚ ንሰላም ን20 ዓመታት ሃንቀው ኢሉ ብተስፋ ክጽበ ዝጸንሐ ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ምስ ሓው ህዝቢ ኢትዮጵያ፣ እቲ ዝግበኦ ክብሪ ሂብኩም ናይዚ መስርሕ ሰላም ብዘየማትእ ብዘይ ነግ ፈረግ ብዘይ ፍርሂ ሙሉእ ተኻፋሊን ካብ ውጽኢቱ ከኣ ተረባሕን ክትገብርዎ ይግበኣኩም።

    • Kokhob Selam

      Dear Abraham H.

      That is the nature of our president.
      Who knows, he may do some movement days recently..Saay 7 already had an article regarding the nature of DIA long back,,

      I post a poem in jebena old page on the same topic . in the same week,,,

      KS,,

      • Kokhob Selam

        Dear Abraham H.,

        ………ዕሰሉ ዕሰሉ………..
        እዚ ኣያ ሳልሕ ‘ሲ ጉድ ገይሩ:-
        ከም ኣመሉ ሚስጥራት ጎርጊሩ:-
        በርቢሩ በራቢሩ ሕጏ ሰባቢሩ:-
        ፊሕሩ ፈሓሒሩ ቅምራት ቀሚሩ:-
        ኣብ ቤተ ምረመራ ኣእትዩ መራሚሩ:-
        መደምደምታ ቀላለዖ ሚስጥሩ፥፤

        • Kokhob Selam

          ዘይተገመተ ክግመት ግመት ግምታቱ :-
          እቲ ዘይምግማቱ ኣብ ግመት ይኣቱ:-
          ነቲ ዘይፈለጦ ሰሪቁ ኣመቱ :-
          ቶኽላ ዝነበረ ቀይሩ ቆርበቱ:-
          ምስ ኣባጊዕ ይጽንበር ቀይሩ ኣንፈቱ::
          ጉዳይ ዶብ መዕርፎ እንተዘይረኺቡ:-
          ሰላም ክርከብ እዩ ኢልኩም ኣይሕሰቡ:-
          ይብል ከምዘይነበረ ገቲሩ ኣፍ ልቡ:-
          እነሆ ይነግረና ካልእ ተጣቢቡ::
          ለምቅነ ከደምቲ ጎብለል ተቀይሮም:-
          ንዞባዊ ምትእስሳር እንሆ ተዓዲሞም:-
          ያኢ ንህንጸት ንሃገር ጠቀምቲ ተባሂሎም:-
          ንሶም ‘ውን እነሆ ምልክት ሂቦም :-
          እንተስ ተሓቢኦም;-
          ……………. ጥውይ ውይ መሪጾም::

          ተስፋ እንተሲኢኑ ተሪፋቶ ኩርናዕ:-
          መንገዲ ጠፊእዎ መበሊ ሸናዕናዕ:-
          ጸገም የለን ክፍትን ጽግዕግዕ:-
          ግን ብጥንቃቄ መገዲ ብምጽናዕ:-
          መምለሲ ዘለዎ ቀልጢፉ ዝስናዕ::

          ወይ ‘ውን፡-
          ኣይትንገር ኣይትሓብር ፡
          ……………ሓልወለይ ሚስጥር:-
          ……………… ሽፍንፍን ዕጽውጽው ቅብርብር:-
          ……………………. ውሳኔ ሃንደበት ኣንፈት ክሰባብር:-
          ውሳኔ እንተኾይኑ ፈጽሞ ግበሮ:-
          ‘……….ሞ ግን ኣረጋግጽ ፍናን ህዝቢ ሰበሮ:-
          ………………….መን ከይለዓል እንባጓሮ :-
          …………………………ምርጫ ኣልቦ ክሳዱ ቀርቅሮ:-
          …ወያል ከደናግር:-
          …….የእቱ ዕግርግር:-
          ……….ናብ ካልእ ይሰግር:-
          …………….የጭበርብር የጭበርብር::
          ………ንሱ ምስ ጸበቦ:-
          ……………..እሾክ ምስከበቦ:-
          ………………….ይደሊ ምደያይቦ :-
          ……………………….ይጎይ መን ከርክቦ::
          ተጻቢቡ እወ እነሆ ምልክት:-
          ቁጠባ ‘ታ ሃገር ካብ በለ ፍርክትክት:-
          ብልቃሕ ዝፍለጥ ምሳሌ ምልክት:-
          ብጎረባብቲ ካብ ስ ኣነ ተሰማዕነት:-
          ኢሮፓውያን ካብ ዘይብሎም ጠቅምታት:-
          ምጭዋይ ካብ ገደፉ እትዮጵያውያን ተጻባእትታት:
          ቅርሰና ሶማልያውያን ካብ ተርኽቦ መዕገቲታት:-

          ካብ ተበታተኑ ጅሃዳውያን ጥሩፋት:-
          ሓሪረን እየን ኩለን ዝነበረኦ ካርድታት:-
          በጀካ ቀይህ ባሕሪ ዝተነጽገት ብሃጸይነት:-
          ኢራን ‘ ውን እንድዕላ በቀሊል ነይትታለለት:-
          ዝለዓለ ጠቅማ ኣብ ኣፍሪቃ ግምት እናእተወት::

          ኩሊት ሲናይ ‘ውን ደጊም እንድዕሉ
          መስር እነሀለት ድፋዕ ሒዛትሉ::
          እንተ ወርቂ ቢሻ መታለሊት ዓሻ:-
          ብዙሕ ተስፋ የብላን ደኺማ ጨሪሻ::
          ክልተ ካብ ምእቲ ኸኣ ‘ሞ:-
          ዳርጋ ተሪፉ እዩ ኢሎሞ:-
          ቅሩብ እንተሎ ‘ ውን ንየናይ ከይዓሞ:-
          እዚ እዩ ዓቢ ጉዳን ህግደፍ ዘሕምሞ::
          ስለ እዚ ከም ኣመሉ ዘይግመት ግምታቱ:-
          ነዚ ሓፋሽ ህዝቢ ሰይሩ ድልየታቱ:-
          ብዙሕ ተዛሪቡ ሃውቲቱ ሃውቲቱ:-
          ይፈታትን ኣሎ ሓዲሽ መድርኽ ክኣቱ
          ግዳ ክንደየናይ ልቡ ከይሰምረሉ;-
          ክንደየናይ ሓፍሽ ከይታለለሉ:-
          ተጸንቂቁ ትዕግስቱ ደጊም ተላዒሉ:-
          ለንዘብን ሓዲኣ ኣላ ዕሰሉ ዕሰሉ፥፥
          ነጥብታት ፋሕ እንተኢሉ ቅርጺ ሃብ:-
          እንታይ ከምትገብር ሕሰብ ተቐራረብ:-
          ሃየ ውሕጅ ከይወስደካ ገድብ:-
          ድሎ ተዳሎ ወድብ ተወዳደብ:-
          መፈጸምታ ይኹን ጸላኢና ይዕረብ::

          KS,,

    • Abrehet Yosief

      Selam Abrham H.
      Shhh! It is a surprise party. Don’t spoil it.

      • Abraham H.

        Abrehet: ኣጆኺ ኣብረሀት ሓፍተይ ግዲ የብልክን፣ ሕሹኽሹኽ እና በልኩ ኢየ ዝዛረብ ዘለኹ ምእንቲ ንበዓል ኣይተ ኢሳያስን ኣቢ ኣሕመድን ኬፎም ከይሰብረሎም:-)

      • halafi mengedi

        Anbrehet,

        Indeed…in fact, shabait will wait to report PMAA was in Asmara till after he leaves so that not to spoil the surprise.

        Hm

  • Saleh Johar

    Hope, now you claim to be for reconciliation! You do not have any principles, mister. And reconciliation requires honesty and courage and you have neither. You belong to the wobbly crowd.

  • Paulos

    Hope,

    The irony is Ethiopia had something to show for as in the Industrial Park in Hawassa including the newly purchased planes parked at the Bole Airport sporting Ethiopian flag. Isaias’ Eritrea has Sawa to show for including a chartered plane of a foreign nation that had brought the delegates. If anything is going to cross the young PM’s mind, it is if the struggle for independence was worth a while. Fair question. No?

    • Abrehet Yosief

      Selam Paulos
      Perhaps he will be taken to Sawa graduation ceremony. He will see what he will face should he try to invade Eritrea again. This year they also have Sawa festival and the presence of diaspora tourists that come to participate will be testimony to the invincible united one heart one people uniqueness of Eritreans.
      Mind you the military parade will be infront of the lion who said the sun will set and the cub who led operation sun rise.

      • Paulos

        ሰላም ፍትውትን ክብርትን ሓፍተይ,

        I would argue, the young PM will miss the intended message and will see Sawa as a restless machine instead that will produce more refugees as they will make their way through the young PM’s country. He will observe the parade and fanfare in Sawa with a resigned look with that up-coming reality in mind for his country will have to bear the brunt and responsibility.

      • Saba

        Selam Abrehet,
        What uniqueness about Eritreans are they going to show to Abiy?

        • Abrehet Yosief

          Selam Saba,
          The uniqueness is that our diaspora sisters go to Sawa festival on air conditioned buses clap at the graduation and then party. Our local sisters are forced to go to Sawa, on rickety buses, get military training under all male trainers, finish highschool in a place where there is not a single female figure of authority and then prepare the party for the diaspora sisters.

    • Alex

      Hi Paulos,
      PIA can take PMAA to Massawa through breathtaking semenawi bahri(filfil solomona) which has a majestic view and the road is always green. The struggle for independence was worth a while because being part of Ethiopia we already tried from 1960-1991 and did not work well for us in my humble opinion .

      • Paulos

        Selam Alex,

        Well, the beautiful scenery you just described is not the result of an astute leader with a vision. It is the gift of nature to Eritrea if you will. The young PM can always travel, say, to Mariana or Tahiti in the Pacific if he is craving for the wonders of nature.

        “Show me the money” goes a punchline in “Jerry Maguire.” Where is it, asks the young PM. And it cuts through the imperatives of the struggle for independence. Was it worth it mumbles the young PM as he cruises through the relics of the past not a sober reminder of the future. That is precisely the difference between the host and the guest.

  • Saba

    Dear All,
    Meskerem dot net is giving more info, faster than gedab & kibrom. Who is mantile & Who is Aba Gobiye in breaking news?
    The site says meeting is Kedame senbet.
    Pics with Ethio flags.
    So how much will be the price of Aseb?

    • ‘Gheteb

      Hey Saba,

      You gotta give the devil his dues. The hyper-imaginative “stringer” of this Forum. Kbrom, has reported the upcoming PIA/PMAA meeting.

      But, then again, even a broken clock is right twice a day.

      ” Unconfirmed reports are indicating PMAA will visit Eritrea next Sunday, not sure why the Ethiopian side did not announce it if it is true”.

      Kbrom picks up some tidbits from the rumor mill or the grapevine and spice it with stuff that are the product of his hyper-imaginative mind and feigns to make it look he has some connection within the PFDJ, which if you ask me is a bunch of crapola, pure and simple.

      So, you are asking: ” So how much will be the price of Aseb?”. I hate to disappoint, but Assab and Eritrea’s sovereignty and territorial integrity is non negotiable, tout court!

  • ‘Gheteb

    Will The Proverbial City Of Keren Be The Venue Of A PIA – PMAA Parley

    Greetings!!

    The city of Keren is adorned with both the Eritrean and Ethiopian flags seemingly awaiting a grand meeting of two neighboring countries leaders.

    And, if the susurration in the grapevine are any guide, I think the selection the city of Keren as the venue where PIA and PMAA will hold their parley, from where I am standings, seems to perfectly fit the bill. If not for anything else, the proverbial city of Keren is proverbial for its hospitality.

    There is also another reason why the powwow between the two leaders should take place in Keren. For one, it is a bit far away from the din and hubbub of our capital city, Asmara.

    What is more, it will PUNCTUATE and underscore one of PFDJs bedrock principles that attaches greater importance on not one region or city, but equally on all Eritrean cities and regions.

    Then, with the unceasing broadside and full fusillade against the cogently coherent Eritrean national narrative by the Eritrean political also-runs, mouthing their disjointed Eritrean”Counter Narrative”, the city of Keren will symbolically serve as a SUBLIME and marvelous reminder of the very Eritrean national narrative or Eritreanism.

    Finally, call me vaingloriously egotistical and a self-obsessed narcissistic person, but somehow I feel the vindication of my Avatar, which is the picture of the very city that this historic peace parley may take place!

    • saay7

      Hey Gheteb:

      Does the rumor mill say if they are flying to Keren or driving to Keren.

      If they are driving to Keren from Asmara, your explanation is less compelling than this: there is a road that connects them both. And somewhere in the road is a winding road. And that road has a name. No?

      saay

      • Berhe Y

        Dear saay,

        You will have hard time to win your argument the number of dogs and Sululat or something like that that Keren has…:)

        I am glad Keren is picked (never been there) but I doubt IA motive for doing so. I think he is testing the waters the reception Abiy might get from the people of Eritrea. May be because Keren population is smaller than Asmara wants to control the mood.

        I am surprised he didn’t pick Adi Halo.

        Berhe

        • Kim Hanna

          Selam Berhe Y,

          I think in commemoration of this historic visit of an Ethiopian PM to Eritrea.
          The historic excitement of PFDJites for the occasion needs to be memorized in some way for posterity.

          I recommend the highway between Karen and Asmara be renamed ….Isayas Afeworki Boulevard.

          Mr. K.H

          • Berhe Y

            Ere Bakih Gash Kim,

            Wedaj eymesek Telat neh ende? Men aregen?

            He needs to be remembered for his small limited closed brain, Adi Halo, as in his salad garden.

            Just imagine, who on earth wouldn’t know how to grow salad? Why a president of millions people spend his days in salad garden.

            Berhe

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Berhe Y,

            I am still a wedaj. You know it yourself, deep down, IA like Mao, will be immortalized in Eritrean history. He will have many monuments. I just wanted to contribute one idea to that eventuality. In the immediate weeks, months and years, the highway will bear his name. Of course, if you refer to it as Libi Afeworki, I will not object.

            Mr. K.H

          • Berhe Y

            Dear KH,

            I know you are wedaj. It’s a real possibility, assuming his party and his people take over and continue to rule. But I don’t think that will be the case.

            One step at a time, I like Fanti analysis, PMAA double edge sword.

            Berhe

          • Selam Berhe Y.,

            If dia is keeping a vegetable garden, as i understood, he is not alone. I had read of a retired latin american president, who lives in a village on a small farm, tending his vegetable garden and his few animals. It is said that he even shares his pension money with the villagers.

            There could be a silver lining in this story. Dia may be contemplating for retirement, but picking the right person to replace him may be his biggest problem, not for the sake of eritrea and her people, but for his own legacy and security. Even dia is not crazy enough to choose from people the likes of whom we saw in addis, people in their sixties and above, people who inspire nobody.

            Have you any idea about a possible candidate for dia’s replacement, somebody who has not been robotized through years of indoctrination in the field, if possible, somebody young enough to attract the 70% or so young eritreans under 30, inside and outside the country? It must be extremely difficult to know. No constitution, no political parties, no open political discussions, and nobody (i think) knows who is who in eritrea, except the old gedli guys. Young politicians are non-existent and whoever comes to power in eritrea will be handpicked by dia, unless he is suddenly incapacitated, in which case the old gedli comrades will gather together to choose one from among themselves. In this case, a change of the president will not bring change in policy, or bring democracy to the country, good governance or human rights.

            The new political situation do you to the coming of PMAA to the scene may help dia a lot for his safe exit without much damage to him and his legacy. If he has any remaining logic in his brain, he may use the opportunity to set in motion his gradual retirement and replacement, with some rhetoric of democracy, constitutionalism and scapegoating some of his old comrades. You can imagine the jubilation in harnet godana. It is said that human being do not have long-term political memory.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Horizon,

            My point was, as president of a country, it’s the only thing he has managed to do in the last 20 years, nothing else except sawa.

            Sure when he retire, he can mind his garden all he went.

            I think you are referring the former Uraguian president, he is one of the finest socialist president and like you said, he lived by example. But there is no comparison with IA.

            As far as power goes, IA will stay as long as Mugabe did, will not go anywhere and will not hand to anyone anytime soon. If he does, it has to be to one of his sons.

            As far as the young needs to take over and all, I personally not too enthusiastic about. I think, there is nothing like experience and I think that’s what we need. People like Kibrom, Saay (even though he still is young but lots and lots of experience). That’s the kind of people we need. If it’s up to me, I would say, he has to be a Muslim. They are way level headed and understand the real issue a lot more that those of us Christian, who do not know nothing but split after split.

            Berhe

          • FishMilk

            Hi Berhe Y. So now you are saying that PIA’s replacement will come from the ranks of opposition website stardom and should be a Muslim. Best you keep eating Eskimo Pies in Canada. Eritrea’s future leaders will come from within and religious affiliation shall never be allowed to become a cause celebre.

          • FishMilk

            Dear Moderators. At least to me, the above comment is offensive and not consistent with article 25.6 of your posting guidelines.

          • FishMilk

            Dear Moderatos. I am referring to the comment made by Berne Y wherein he states ‘If it’s up to me, I would say, he has to be a Muslim. They are way level headed and understand the real issue a lot more than those of us Christian, who do not know nothing but split and split’. It infers a negative generalization on one religion.

        • Teodros Alem

          Selam berhe
          I have seen a pic that show ethiopa and eritrea flags waving side by side in mendefera .isn’t mendefera a tigragna city?

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Tedros,

            Yes it is. I don’t know what Tigrinya city has to do with his visit.

            May be he is touring the whole country, I am sure he will go to Massawa and Assab as well.

            Berhe

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam berhe
            So u not glad mendefera might be picked? Just like u r for keren.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Tedros,

            All Eritrean cities are important to me. I just don’t see things in that aspects. If it makes you happy, both my parents come from the vacinity of Mendefera.

            But Mendefera was one of the city which was completely abandened by HGDF like all other cities including Asmara.

            FYI, Karen is a city where all Eritrean ethnic and religious groups call home.

            Berhe

      • ‘Gheteb

        Cuz SAAY:

        I don’t want to drive my cousin SAAY crazy here, but at least I deserve some credit for not feigning to have some official sources within the PFDJ where I garner some scoops and tidbits. I do collect my infos from the grapevine and I do disclose my sources!

        I don’t even for split second imagine that I am in possession of documented information of those informants in the payroll of Wedi-Kassa simply because I am loath to let my mind wallow in HYPER-IMAGINATION!

        I didn’t pick anything from the “rumor mill” or the grapevine as how the two leaders will get to the proverbial city of Keren from Asmara. Possibly driving to Keren and probably flying, in a chopper rather than using a fixed wing plane.

        The serpentine road you are referring to between Asmara and Keren surely has a name and it is called: The TICKER of Tigray.

      • Abraham H.

        Dear Saay, if they are flying to Keren, then it would be a helicopter as there is no tarmacked runway in Keren. In any case if I were PM Abiy, I would not dare flying any Eritrean helicopter or plane, that would be gambling with ones life:-)

      • Kbrom

        Hi saay

        Confirmed

        The following information is confirmed. PIA will herald PMAA Eritrea will allow Ethiopia to use not only Assab but also Massawa. They wiill agree to open immediately their Embassies.

        The decision is based on Eritrea-IA & Sons PLC business plan sub-clause (g) ሕርር ምባል ሰባት of clause (1) ወያነ መዓንጠኣ ይቆረጽ of article 19 ሃገር ከም ኮስኳስ ድሕረ ገደና ገዛኻ ምሻጥን ምልዋጥን

        A humorous friend from Asmara:

        “Hopefully they’ll announce that the Ethiopian PM was here after he leaves Eritrea. Wulad 9

        • Paulos

          Caro Kbrom,

          Was looking for an answer to the question on how Isaias will reciprocate the gift from the young PM [25 Kilos of Coffee.]

          Was guessing either ርብዒ ክሻ ጨው or a bucket of Tilapia. It is indeed Asseb and Massawa where Yosief G. is off in his otherwise compelling prediction when he said, Isaias will yield Asseb for it is the only route where the Eritrean people can not venture into an all out cross-border interaction with the rest of Ethiopians. Again, many thanks for the info.

          • Abraham H.

            Selam Paulos, I think PM Abiy can choose from a kilo of either Bishaean or Zaraean gold:-)

          • FishMilk

            Hi Paulos. Tilapia is a freshwater fish which is common in Ethiopia and does not come from the Red Sea. MZ and Menghistu were much younger younger than PM Abiy when they came to power. And, PIA is not giving physical giving away ownership of neither Assab or Massawa to Ethiopia. In line with the July 1993 agreement, Ethiopia has always had right of access to Assab and Massawa in terms of using its services, for which the TPLF refused to do, even at the costs of thousands of starving Ethiopians. I am surprised you are not spelling Massasa as Mitsewa.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Kbromay,

          Thank you for the info. The “Eritrea-IA & Sons PLC business,” its clauses and sub-clause is very hilarious. This is one of its kind the best humor that hits us this evening. My man.

        • saay7

          Kbrom:

          And what a great landlord Eritrea will be. There is no party meeting, no cabinet meeting, no parliament to ratify any treaty. I wonder if the landlord consults with anyone at all. Do you think the aeeitrean delegates read the letters they were asked to carry by IA and AA?

          You think IA will allow Abiy to address the people and if so will it televised? I wonder what he will say “ዓወት ንሓፋሽ”? When he went to Mekele he used a word that means a lot to Tigrayans but clearly meant nothing to him “ከም ቀደምና!” Every day the IA gov demonstrates how it operates like no other government in the world. I mean even the Royal families of the Gulf States have the “shura” (consultation) assemblies of the family.

          saay

          • Kbrom

            saay

            1) What do you mean IA does not have Shura: here is the job description

            Org structure Eritrea IA & Family PLC

            IA – CEO, head of state, economy, finance, army, infrastructure, health ( including traditional healing of Adihalot) information, diplomacy …Damn it! let’s make it short head of everything

            Saba: head of the department of waking up PIA ደቂሰ ነይረ ሳባ ኣተሲኣ ውግእ ተጀሚሩ ኢላትኒ፡ ደቂሰ ነይረ ሳባ ኣተሲኣ ግብጺ ኣትዮም ይበሃል ኣሎ ናብ ሳዋ ኢላትኒ: ደቂሰ ነይረ

            Abraham head of the department of 03

            What democratic shura do you expect more than this SAAY?

            2) I really do not know what will look like the details of the visit. One thing I know is yesterday when a minister was stepping out of her house which is near a main road, then she saw Ethiopian and Eritrean flags on the road poles to which referring to she asked to her driver ደሓን ዲና እንታይ ኣሎ ዲዩ this is true story.

            3) The other stunning story is that Ambassador Araia Desta was told in Addis that as per PIA’s instruction he is advised not to attend the meetings with the delegation as ‘this is not an AU issue this is a peace process issue that is still in its starting stage’. This is another true story.

          • saay7

            Kbur ato kbrom:

            Info from sources to compare with your sources:

            Abiy is NOT going to Keren, Mendefera or any of the zonal capitals ordered to fly flags and ኣዴታት told to sweep streets. The only purpose for that is to show (on EriTV of course) that when news reached peace loving Eritreans that PM Abiy is coming, they “spontaneously” and out of a “civilized culture” initiated all the flag waving and banner raising.

            No Keren. No Mendefera on Abiy itinerary. Just the road from Asmara Airport to the presidential office and our 4-star hotel.

            Any speech that will be allowed to air on EriTV will be restating of Algiers Agreement acceptance, And praise of IA.

            I remain very skeptical of your assertion that the scorpion will change its nature. The same day he releases from prison all the people imprisoned for opposing voided policy, he will arrest people who oppose the new policy.

            saay

  • Saba

    Hi Saay7,
    We in the silent majority believe that our sovereignty go hand in hand with our freedom. Strong people do not follow a strong leader. A strong leader follows strong people. If you follow a strong leader you end up with PIA. So please tell to SGJ during your shift exchange that he should follow us, not follow him!

    • Saleh Johar

      Hi Saba,
      Sometimes you cross lines: can you explain when SGJ asked you to follow him or did he volunteer to follow you. Kindly explain and I am not in the mood for “it was a koke”

  • Paulos

    Selam Ayay and Avvocato Sal,

    Not sure if you’ve seen it already, Eritrean and Ethiopian flags are flying side by side in Keren.

    “Listen to me my friend, hope is a dangerous thing, says Red the character in “Shawshank’s Redemption.” After a daring busting out of prison, a month later, in the mounds over looking the vast Pacific Ocean, Andy Dufresne leaves a note for Red to prove him wrong that says, “Red, my friend, hope is a beautiful thing.” Red ends reading the note with a smile in his face. Perhaps, the Sun is about to rise for its own sake over Keren and the rest. Let’s hope!

    • Saleh Johar

      Hi Paulos,
      If you just know the story of the place, what that very jirafiiori has seen, your heart will bleed like mine is right now.

      • Paulos

        Selam Ayay,

        Been to Keren many times for my family is related to a Kerenite through marriage. But I can not claim to know it’s history much less about every part of it. Please educate us if you will so that we don’t get carried away with emotions.

        • Saleh Johar

          Paulos, I promise to yield soon.

      • Abrehet Yosief

        Selam Ustaaz,
        Gideon Musa Aron has posted a picture of women cleaning the streets of Asmara. There is one photo that has a few women sitting on the pedestrian walk. Their expression sums up the feeling.

        • Saleh Johar

          Hello Abrehet,
          Ghideon, another close childhood friend of mine lost to the cause of cheering up for the PFDJ.

        • Alex

          Hi Abrehet,
          WOW you can read their expression from the picture. Could tell us what their feeling is?. Why is so much pessimistic view in Awate today. Is peace become toxic this days in minds of many. Sad

          • Abrehet Yosief

            Hi Alex,
            Yes, I can read their expression from the picture. It is a picture after all. No I cannot tell you their feeling. I am not pessimistic at all. I am absolutely ecstatic. There is brigade prison after you pass Keren on the way to Hagaz. where they keep mothers and wives of men who went AWOL. Perhaps, they will close that prison. May be 6th brigade in Sawa will also be emptied. Even if it is just till the guests leave.

    • saay7

      Ha Paulos:

      I don’t want to drive my cuz Gheteb crazy but I consider kbrom highly reliable and he had already told us PM Abiy is reportedly visiting Eritrea on Sunday. Flags they can get (PFDJ has Years is experience in the performance art of flag waving) and I am sure the One Ethiopia group is unhappy that the “wrong, Weyane” flag 🇪🇹 is waving. The question is where are they going to find the marching band that knows the Ethiopian anthem?

      Suppose, 6 months ago, you had said the Ethiopian flag will be waving in Keren before Ethiopian troops withdraw from Badme. The whole hypernationalist army would have descended on you to instantly withdraw your citizenship and I am sure Semere T would have written an entire article in bold, capitalized and underlined that that would never happen. Interesting times and one more reason that when it comes to politics most of us amateurs should not be making declarations.

      saay

      • Paulos

        Caro Avvocato,

        Human remains can not be sent back to Eritrea for a proper burial without Isaias’ permission. This was the index of Isaias’ extraordinary power much less over the living. ነዛ ሃገር ባዕለይ ከምዘምፃእክዋ ባዕለይ ከጥፍኣ ከምዝኽእል ከርእየክን’የ as per Andebirhan’s book, “Eritrea At The Crossroads.” An indication of Isaias’ extraordinary power over the nation as well.

        Anything in between is irrelevant including if Confederal arrangement is in the offing so long as ኤሪትራዊ ማዓንጣ ሸጥ ክሳዕ ዘይበለ።

      • Paulos

        Addendum,

        Curious to know about two things:

        * What kind of speech the young PM is going to make as in if he is going to touch on democracy and human rights issue.

        ** If any Tigrean is going to tag along with him, say, Arkebe Oqbai, for instance.

  • Blink

    Dear FM and Horizon
    Hayat mentioned the demobilisation of Tigrians from military with out the agenda behind it. Why did TPLF demobilise it’s fighters ? The reason was to send these fighters to all Ethiopian cities to make money as sub branch of Effort or get free access to banks so that they could open hotel in Gonder and also to put the Amhara, debub , Somali and Oromo’s in the war they imagined with Eritrea.

    She didn’t explain why were all the generals and colonels Tigrians by big margin almost 10:1 ratio.

    Second she explained that Tirgray is trailing behind on economy and yet she forgot the Yeken jiboch who rich themselves from the mouth of Amhara , Oromo and other Ethiopians . If the story of 27 years was about a country it means and this story includes weyane security were cutting young men feet , you can check real people who were cut their two legs narrating the horrible story beginning to not cut their right leg. The current TPLF hard liners are not even looking at the interest of Tigrians but to cover their failure and also protect their seat in the next election.
    She also tried to make a racist point by saying TPLF a mighty force that can work miracles at the time of stress and this notion implies the Oromo and others can not .TPLF hard liners are not going to care for Tigrians but for their seat in the coming elections. Think what will their opponents campaign canvassers say against TPLF. Hayat , Alula , Daniel and others are not honest and they should not try to over use this Derg and terrorist thing because what these accused of will answer with respect.

    • Saleh Johar

      Hi Blink,
      Just for consistency, would you analyze the ethnic identities of all Eritrean officers in the same way you used to analyze the Ethiopians? Then we can see if we are safe from that.

      • Natom Habom

        saleh johar
        I think all army officer and high ranking are represented evenly in Eritrea
        you also to know the tigrigna speeching are not a minority maybe it why the is some little extra ,I am saying this maybe with the view you have on tigrigna
        you may think that all power is consantred on their hand etc…..

    • Selam blink,

      The biggest problem in ethiopian history throughout many centuries has always been power struggle between the two abyssinians, amhara and tigrayan elites. At last there comes somebody who is not part of this inter-abyssinian feud, and tells them, i do not care about your centuries old problems and i have come with the message of unity, peace and love. I call upon all, the different ethiopian ethnic groups, the neighboring countries, and even the world community to help solve the border impasse, give freedom to the incarcerated, democracy to our political landscape, etc.

      What does he get? He is demeaned and demonized right from day one, and his government undermined. They started scaremongering as if pm Abiy brought with him “ስምንተኛውን ሺ”. The ethiopian sky is falling, etc.

      They see ethnic conflict everywhere, as if they are happening for the first time, they predict the future as if they are the oracle at delphi, and they have ended up doomsayers about ethiopia.
      They proved that they do not care in the least about peace between the two peoples of ethiopia and eritrea, but the eternal hegemony of tplf, which is the old inter-habesha power struggle. They fail to understand that this is a losing game for all.

      You find no other explanation for their behavior other than the status quo (tplf hegemony) should not change come hell or high water, knowing that they are not the ones who are going to pay the price.

      They should understand that change in ethiopia is a fait accompli, there is no going back, and it is better they are part of the new phenomenon, instead of trying to block the way. It is not only ethiopia that is going to change, but the whole horn of africa. The time has come at last for the poor peoples of the horn.

      Have heard that Abiyism has become a new term in some africa countries, and people are saying let there be some abiyism for us too.

      • Saba

        Hi Horizon,
        I strongly believe that the inter-Habesha power struggle between Amara & Tigrigna elites have been the worst to happen to the people of Eritrea & Ethiopia. From Menelik to Mengistu the Amara Elites were in the Throne. The “Tigrayan time” seems short. If the pendulum swings back to the “Amara time” again, history will repeat it self. The only viable solution is to be “the all Ethiopian time”, not “Amara time” again.

        • Kim Hanna

          Selam Saba,

          I am not going to quibble about your characterization of “Amara time” because Amara ethnic group was formed in 1991.
          There was a Shoa, Gonder, Tigray etc rivalry in the past.
          But I understand your sentiment. The all Ethiopia time is the solution.

          One reason I was hopeful for EPRDF after a period of time, was it addressed the issue head on, at least on paper to have all participate.

          The 2nd reason was the objective measurement of progress in all spheres in the last 25 years. Ethiopia is demonstratively better today than 25 years ago. With all the shortcomings that fact persuaded me to be respectful and appreciative.
          Even today’s evolving adjustments is due to same masterful design, at least we must acknowledge that fact.

          Like everything else, we have to wait for results of the changes to give it a grade. From where I sit, I am still hopeful and appreciative of the changes. Yes, there is apprehension mixed in.

          My apprehension comes from the known actors involvement, like the U.S and UAE etc.
          Saudi Arabia donated a plane full of dates during the famine of the 70s or the 80s in Ethiopia.
          Today, they and the UAE are promising to “invest” billions of Dollars in Ethiopia. What is in it for them?
          The U.S is the U.S, they have a tendency of undermining their friends and paying off their enemies, what is new.

          Mr. K.H

          • Nitricc

            Hey KIM; you ask, “Today, they and the UAE are promising to “invest” billions of Dollars in Ethiopia. What is in it for them?” i have no idea what is for them but as an Ethiopian, you have two choices, would you rather speak chines or Arabic? I am guessing that you will speak Arabic. hahahaha, one thing is for sure, GERED is dead, this all about Egypt and GERED. I have a question for you, why is always Eritrea comes out on the top? Why?

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Nitricc,

            I want to use your patented line at Awate.

            “You are not very smart are you?”

            Chinese, of course.

            Mr. K.H

  • FishMilk

    Hi All. China must now be crying from recent Ethio-Eri peace overtures as it celebrates opening of its $3.5 billion Chinese build free-trade zone at Djibouti.

  • Hayat Adem

    Greetings,
    Oh Ethiopia! It overworked itself to soften up itself. Where in the world has a leadership of an outlawed armed and a splitter organization co-boarded a plane with a PM of that country to get in through the capatil city’s airport only to takeover a whole region called Neqemte in a matter of days time!?
    By design or blunder, I think PMAA is effectively facilitating the disentegration of Ethiopia and breaking its constitutional federal system. In a very short time, the country will become ungovernable. Its macroeconony has already nosedived. Its bigger projects are halted for a while now. There seems little to no hope Eprdf will resurrect to salvage any part of the system.
    Even giant intellectuals like Messay Kebede are likening the time to Gorvachov/USSR time. Prof Al Mariam went further and rang an alarm so loud that what happened between Gorbachov and Putin was the disintegration of the Soviet. He advised Abiy to hold his Eprdf together and slow down his reform and be selective befire things go out of control. Reform is just a name uiven to it by its authors. What it is in actual terms is softening up the hard rock to prepare it for multipke crack. Abiy seems to have gone a consequential distancevalong that line.
    The two educated men I mention above are so alarmed of what they are witnessing the nation’s fate put at risk in the name of reform. One problem they failed to admit is though their enablibg negative role for all this to come.
    Egypt and Pfdj are in a good harvest. And I can see what all this means to Eritreans aspiring freedom and justice. And yet, the option is to continue abd intensfy the struggle. It is about the hegelian dialectics stupid. When the going gets tough, the tough continue going!

    • saay7

      Selamat Hayat:

      I think it’s the job description of the punditocracy to create comparisons and reference points on the assumption that history if the best guide to the future. Unfortunately, often, in their effort to illuminate the future, they pick only the part of history that conforms to their forecast and ignore the dissimilarities.

      The Soviet Union was made up of formerly independent states who were swallowed up by a new ideology and not an insignificant military power. Its break up was caused by the bankruptcy of its ideology (its inability to deliver results) and the emptying of the coffers in the destructive arms race. And in the end, with the exception of those whose career benefited from the totalitarian state, few (like Putin) cried for its demise.

      What is happening in Ethiopia now is someone is saying that while the years we spent in the last 27 years empowering ethnicities were useful in giving marginalized societies a stake in the State, we have done that at some cost—-people’s identity politics has frayed their national (Ethiopian) identity. Therefore, we are going to push the pendulum a bit towards nationalism and away from ethnicism.

      This, I think, is triggering instant memories in some vulnerable communities (Tigray for example) that this is the return of the unitary statists. But so far, other than pointing to what Kaddis called “people playing with their formerly forbidden toys”, there is no example that they can point to that has been done at the policy level that, in its top-heaviness any different from the pre-2018 Years. It’s just that someone else, with a different constituency and priority, is on top.

      saay

      • Kbrom

        Dear saay 7

        1. I did not follow all the discussions but one thing I strongly agree with Hayat Adem is PMAA’s should be cautious in regard to the dangers of ethnic confrontation that is starting to loom in Ethiopian skies (though in low intensity). I think it is natural for people to be so worried about the confrontational rhetoric the rallies, the statements that are coming out from leaders of TPLF such as Alem Gebrewahid’s, the executive secretary and an executive member of EPRDF, the forces with ulterior motives, the absence of respecting institutionalism by PMAA (even the unpopular EPRDF’s procedure), PIA’s divide and weaken strategy in Ethiopia etc. See re: Ethiopia – Discussion on current political issue with M.General Dr Teklebrhan Weldearegay.

        2. I saw several questions in your previous posts my apologise for not replying. It is because I did not want to mix my opinion with the information I got. I opted to put the raw information as it is.

        3. Unconfirmed reports are indicating PMAA will visit Eritrea next Sunday, not sure why the Ethiopian side did not announce if it is true.

        4. Hundreds families and kids from Akria incident are being released.

        • saay7

          Selam kbrom:

          I really am trying to understand the opposition to PM Abiy from Hayat. For reasons not clear to me the video of General Tekleberhan W interview with Tigray radio was all over Eritrean social media and I listened to it. While I appreciated his very calm and measured TONES, I was unconvinced by the case he was making that Abiy is the new Emperor. And god knows he tried: that was 2 hour plus interview.

          Hayat is a smart person but I lose her when she brings arguments from the pits of Ethiopia’s nightmares (Watch out for Egypt) that appear so randomly and without any supporting evidence.

          I would have preferred direct rebuttals to the PMs claim that everything he has done so far was to execute decisions approved by EPRDF parliament or the Ethiopian parliament or bodies it authorized (human rights commission, auditors, etc).

          saay

          • Kbrom

            Dear saay

            I just used your discussion with HA as stepping stone to reiterate what i have been saying for the last three months. I do not agree with HA’s points ( sometimes farfetched). As you know I am bullet pointer so let me bullet what is worrisome and why is it worrisome.

            1. The ethnic based rhetoric the bahr- dar slogans ( ኣማራ ሲነካ ኦሮሞ እንደተነካ) the flag choice, stereotyping the profanity of የቀን ጅብ towards Tigray people, the speech by General Asamenew, the counter speech by the President of Kilil Somali,
            2. The PIA style of appearance in the media, personalising and glorifying national issues you described as ”decisions approved by EPRDF parliament or the Ethiopian parliament or bodies it authorized (human rights commission, auditors, etc) as his personal achievements. What do you think EPRDF would feel when people shunt ኣቢዩ ነዳጅ የደፈረ ኣንበሳ፡ ኣምላክ ሙሴ ለእስራኤል፡ ኣቢዩ ለኢትዮጲያ ላከ.
            3. Apparently it was better for PMAA to take actions after repealing the legislations or judicial process by parliament, EPRDF’s executive or other procedures. For example lift the unjust legislations against the so called ‘terrorism’ and then free all people imprisoned under that excuse without hand picking names and personalising the process and credit.
            4. Some of his statements are not helpful to what he is intending to achieve i.e. ፍቅር መደመር እርቅ because bluntly stating we were state terrorists, torturers insults those who served the previous government by extension the EPRDF. As you might agree let alone at the level of head of state, even at the level of CEO you do not avoid commenting on your predecessor.
            5. General Tekleberhan W’s interview got high audience because it has some realistic early warning signals, of course one wonders how on the earth the good General expects us to believe him when he preaches is that TPLF led EPRDF was very democratic, whilst in reality the root cause of all these problem is its dominant, unjust system.
            6. PIA’s decision to lift the 17 years old precondition of ‘no dialogue without demarcation’ to stoke fire between Abiy’ and TPLF was not handled by PMAA cautiously
            7. PMAA did not ask where are Eritrean people in his rashly agreed peace with PIA. Why can’t he understand a leader who does not have peace with his own people can not make peace with his neighbour.
            8. What is happening in Kilil Oromo, why did not we see rallies as we have seen in Addis and Bahr – Dar
            9. What will happen if the confrontation escalate into EPRDF Executive and Council level and the EPRDF dissolves itself.
            10. All correct policies are not correct if they come at wrong time or in abrupt way; did not Kissinger remind us ‘policy is the art of the possible, the science of the relative’.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Kbromay,

            “All correct policy are not correct if they come at wrong time” is a good reminder to all of us. If there is no synchronization between the the “objective realty” and the “subjective matter” it is always problematic to say the least. Releasing prisoners only does not bring peace and stabilities.

          • Kbrom

            Amanuel

            Such kinds of media statements should worry all.

            5ይ ኣኼባ ቤት ምኽሪ ክልል ትግራይ ህዝቢ ትግራይ ምእንተ ሰላም፣ ዴሞክራሲን ልምዓትን ከቢድ መስዋእትነት ከፊሉ ከብቅዕ ንዝኸፈሎ ዋጋ ብዘይምጥን ኣብ ክብሩ መሰረት ዝገበረ መጥቃዕቲ ይፍፀሞ ምህላዉ፣ መሬት ናይ ምሰፍሕፋሕ ሕልሚ መበገሲ ዝገበሩ ኣንፃር ህዝቢ ትግራይ ዘነፃፀሩ ጎንፂ ዘልዕሉ ጭርሖታት ዘንፀባርቑ ሰልፍታት ክካየዱ ፀኒሖምን ኣለዉን” ይብል ኣብ መግለፂኡ

            ዜጋታት ካብ ቦታ ናብ ቦታ ተንቀሳቒሶም ንምንባር፣ ንምስራሕ፣ ንብረት ንምፍራይ ዘለዎም ሕገ መንግስታዊ መሰል እናተጥሓሰ ብሄር ተኮር መጥቃዕቲ እናተፈፀሞምን እናተፈናቐሉን ምርኣይ ልሙድ ተግባር እናኾነ ምምፅኡን ንሕገ መንግስታዊ ስርዓት ፌደራሊዝም ብዝፃባእ መንገዲ ሕቶ መንነትን ወሰን-ምምሕዳርን ምኽንያት ዝገበረ ጎንፂ ብምፍጣር ንሕልፈት ሂወት፣ ምጉዳል ኣካልን ዕንወት ንብረትን ዜጋትት የሳጥሕ ምህላው ወሲኹ የብርህ

            እኛ የቀን ጅቦች አይደለንም በኢሕአዴግ ውስጥ ግን በአራቱም አባል ድርጅቶች ውስጥ የቀን ጅቦች አሉ ብለዋል።

            የሕወሃቱ ሊቀመንበር ዶክተር ደብረጺዮን ገብረሚካኤልና የድርጅቱ ስራ አስፈጻሚና የጽሕፈት ቤቱ ሃላፊ አቶ አለሙ ገብረዋህድ በኢትዮጵያ የሕገ መንግስት መሸርሸር እያጋጠመ ነው ብለዋል።

            በተለይ አቶ አለም ገብረዋህድ ለተሰብሳቢዎቹ የኪነጥበብ ባለሙያዎች እንደተናገሩት “ኢሕአዴግ መንታ መንገድ ላይ ይገኛል።እናም ኢሕአዴግ አበቃለት ብለን ከምንተወው እስከመጨረሻው እንታገላለን” ነው ያሉት።

          • Haile S.

            Selam Kbrom,
            If he did everything to perfection, then when are we going to use the hidden card in our pickets ኣይበልናንዶ (didn’t we say so)?
            I feel this PM is being judged by the Bible before exodus from paradise!

          • Kbrom

            Selam Haile

            I am just saying, it is worrisome to see any ethnic based confrontation in Ethiopia. I am sure you always remember that Rwandan genocide was planned by members of the core political elite. When there is political and socio -economic tension aligned to ethnic any thing can trigger gruesome events. I am sure you also remember how the 10 Kilowatt small Radio Télévision Libre des Mille Collines (RTLMC), instigated the Rwandan genocide by broadcasting racist propaganda, obscene jokes and music,

            ግጥምታትካ ናፊቕናዮም

            እዛ ኣብ ታሕቲ ዘላ ግጥሚ ስከ በል በቲ እጹበ ድንቂ ክእለትካ ጌርካ ኣርዒምካ ተርጉመልና።

            That can affect us too,
            “From one small spark a bushfire grows.
            Sellers of misery are our foes.
            Merging ruthlessly tongues of flame.
            Point your finger at those to blame.”
            ― Paul Anthony

          • Haile S.

            Selam Kbrom,
            Let me be clear on talking about such possiblities, however remote it appears. If there is a real concern that such crime could happen, no amount of precautionary warnings and measures are enough to desaude it. So they need to be said and taken. Commenting in favour of one group or the other is not going to help, ካብ ተማጓቲ ዓራቒ፡ ካብ ሓጻቢ ኣድራቒ ከምዝብሃል።

          • saay7

            Selamat Kbrom:

            Very very information kbur ato kbrom.

            I will have more to say on each one but first I have been given homework by a good friend to read/listen:

            1. SBS radio
            2. Zete mhurat tegaru
            3. Ethiopian ambassador to Australia

            And to my fellow Eritreans who sometimes ask why all this obsession with Ethiopia, I could say that everything that happens there affects Eritrea. But the other reason is, for my generation, it’s a case of ስንወለድ ኢትዬፕያውያን ስንሞት ኤርትራ 🙂

            Saay

          • Tensae

            Dear SAAY,

            First please accept my very belated gratitude for welcoming
            me the first time around a while ago.

            If I may interject, Hiyat has every reason to oppose PAA and oppose him with everything she has got. If you and I were in her position, we would probably have done the same if not more. Despite her claim to the contrary, Hayat is from Tigray and likely a privileged one at it, a beneficiary of the current system. Moreover, she is highly politically conscious and a hardcore Tigrayan nationalist. For the last 27 or so years, Tegaru have dominated
            every aspect of Ethiopian life, from the military to the economy and everything in between. It is no secret the large majority of the government positions such as the military, the foreign and public service, the national press both electronic and print, the private media, the public and private means of transportation etc were all
            dominated by Tigrayans. The tracking, aviation, tourism, and agro industries are all dominated by Tegaru. What is not controlled by Tagaru, is controlled by those affiliated to them. More importantly, the political landscape was designed to ensure Tigrayan dominance for the foreseeable future. I am not sure
            if you are aware but even the foreign media outlets operating in Ethiopia such as AFP, Reuters, BBC are mostly manned by Tegaru. As a result of this lopsided and discriminatory system, Tegaru have accumulated enough wealth at the expense of
            other Ethiopians to earn them earn them scoren and animosity of other Ethiopians. Moreover, the system they built is characterized
            by corruption and cruelty among other things. PAA is determined and capable to change all this and change it as soon as possible and once and forever. As a political conscious and hardcore ethnic
            nationalist, Hyat is very much aware of the damage PAA can incur to her interest and the interest of those close to her. The critical question to be asked therefore is no why Hayat should oppose PAA but rather why she should not.

            As for the unfounded claim by Major Tecleberhan W. the former head of INSA, about PAA’s ambition to be king, it helps to take in to consideration that he was fired by his former junior Abiy Ahmed and therefore has a personal axe to grind.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Kbromay,

          It is good news for parents on the release of their innocent children. This one is an already expected by you and others, though wasn’t by me. But do not expect the release of prisoners of conscience and political activists.
          Thank you for the info.

          • Kbrom

            Selam kbur Amanuel

            Actually, I would say lets expect the release of the prisoners of conscience and political activists too!

            The later disgraced general Collin Powell once said ‘perpetual optimism is a force multiplier’. Let’s create our own light multipliers in the darkness of PIA’s caves. ብርሃን ኣብ ውሽጥኻ ምፍጣር ኢዩ እቲ ምስጢር: በለ ሓዳሚ!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Kbromay,

            I do not expect for those who were sent to prison for vengeful purposes. Do you?

          • Kbrom

            Hi Amanuel

            Yes, I do Emma Hawey; I do believe some thing that none of us ever imagined would/could happen soon in regard to the political prisoners. I am very optimistic for a number of reasons.

    • Selam Hayat Adem,

      Neqemte is a town, it is not a whole region, a provincial capital of what used to be wollega, and as Mez told us if the gathering of few hundred young people was on an occasion of the inauguration of an olf office, an organization no more labelled a terrorist organization, and wants to participate in peaceful struggle, what is wrong with that.

      A liberation front leader denounces armed struggle and returns to his country on the presidential plane shows that the man trusts PMAA. nothing more and nothing less.

      Your obsession with the disintegration of ethiopia, since tplf more or less self-excluded from the eprdf, because the only position it accepts is the position of a boss, is such that you may as well wake up one morning to tell us ethiopia has indeed disintegrated, and she is no more.

      What do you expect from prof. Almariam that you are more or less satisfied with his opinion. He is a diehard chauvinist amhara who has coined so many epithets for tplf. Do you believe he has anything good to say about tplf? Soon you will see him attacking opdo and PMAA. He is one of the ghosts of the past. If that satisfies you, let it be.

      “Egypt and Pfdj are in a good harvest”. Wow! Even Nitricc and Hope can not much you anymore in the scare tactic. In the past, they were telling us “the egyptians are coming”. Now, you are much more vociferous in this scare tactic. How time changes, rather how the reality pops up at the right time, with the right condition.

      • Hayat Adem

        Horizon,
        You are amazing me. Talk to yourself if what you are saying is out of conviction or confusion. I am usually more disgusted by arragance than by dishonesty and more by dshonesty than by ignorance. The arrogance come with the mountains of lies layered one after the other, and you guys keep on repeating them. TPLF’s power can never be expressed outside the real of political, security and economic power; where in all the three TPLF and the Tigray region trail by much distance compared to many parts of |Ethiopia. I think the only commodity (potentially) TPLF and the Tigray region can be considered superior with might be their will and strength to push back when cornered. We haven’t seen that yet now either because that too is taken or because it is waiting for the right time.
        I honestly beleive that TPLF’s status has been moving from left to right along hegemony-domination-parity-minority over the 27 years. It was meant to be so by design that partly confirms to theTPLF’s principle and conviction.
        Follow me, I will walk you through:
        This happened when there was successive policy interventions taking place in the army itemized as demobilization of TPLF fighters and conscious recruitment of non-Tigray into the army; promotion of other Ethiopian officers coupled with comparative stagnition/demotion of Tigriyan officers in army; then came the constitution which empowers the majority comparatively as the legislative bodypurely bases on numbers; then the 1993 TPLF split where many of the purged were the TPLF hardliners and the ones left in power were using the voices of ANDM and OPDO; then the death of PMMZ and the coming of PMHD to the helm.
        TPLF’s dominance is just a BS to bring it here. It was there because of historical reasons and it was designed to disappear progressively, which was work in progress of which TPLF was a willing enabler to that process of self diminishment.
        Tigreans will always be the engine of Ethiopia, The flag the Bahirdar chauvinsts were flying in circle was introduced by the Tigreans. People who know Tigreans well will tell you how that sense of ethiopianess of their love to that flag is entrenched in their psyche and culture. No, they will not be worried they can be pushed out by the wishes of the latecomers singing Ethiopia.
        What is happening now has nothing to do with TPLF or Tigray. It is about Ethiopia and I am alarming you (not as a scaring tactic) to open your eyes and see it coming as a national danger.
        Saay, the 27 years were a story of a country. Obviously there would be successes and excesses in it. But compared to the many falls and downs of Ethiopia after Axum and Lalibella, the was the best shining time of Ethiopia.
        I don’t think my language is louder than the the danger gathering. You need to also think about it in terms Eritrea’s aspiration for freedom and justice.

        • Hayat Adem,
          Go and read Fanti Ghana’s comment, unless you say you know everything. It might help you cope with the truth and the reality.

        • FishMilk

          Hi Hayet Adem. Tigray region economically trails other regions? Of course! That is because TPLF & Associates have economically raped Ethiopia’s other regions; to namely include land grabbing and corrupted investment schemes. TPLF & Associate have been able to use their control over the military and security apparatus to intimidate authorities in other regions whereas the same obviously does not work for them at home in Tigray Region.

  • Saleh Johar

    Abi
    And I never expected an unexpected reply from the expected corner with the expected reaction to the expected kindness and expected wisdom of the exceptional Raya Prince… if you keep reacting in your expected manner he is expected to declare Raya an autonomous kilil and Ethiopia will suffer from the expected consequences, then you will have to deal with the expected disaster from the guys who carry daggers 🙂

  • Saleh Johar

    Hi Hope,
    In his upcoming visit to Eritrea, Dr. Abiy has declared his intent to be the godfather of 100 people, even if they are adults. Just in case you know someone who needs aba-l’gge.

    • Hope

      Ahlen Ustaz Salih Gadi Johar:
      Time to wake up and to make a legal U -turn and to walk the talk…of your Motto of; “Inspire, Embolden and Reconcile”.
      Time for a Real and EFFECTIVE Summer Project.
      The old days of grudges, ego, gossip, defamation,….competition, etc–are bygone days by now.
      FYI,it is 2018!
      Yep, Dr. AAA is my HERO and let us learn from him to walk the talk.
      In fact, he has the potential to be God-father of al of us. Just for being a Godly man or a man of God..

      • Saleh Johar

        Hi Hope,
        Did I say anything different, oh man God, Hope? I agree with you 1000000000000 %

  • saay7

    Mr. Bailiff:

    Your request for Agazi Liyu Police is hereby denied. However, we would be willing to send you an excellent public speaker who will wax eloquently on such subjects:

    * What is a court of law?
    * What does a judge do?
    * What is the role of a jury?

    Please tell us your local way of exchanging greetings as our public speaker is excellent at saying it.

    saay

    • Abi

      Hi Saay
      This person you are sending must be the one and only Saaytanic!!
      How do I know?
      I don’t see ” appeal ” in the list of subjects. Just like you denied my request without a chance for appeal.

      I will send you the latest edition of Amharic for Dummies ” before your scheduled trip.
      You welcome

      • saay7

        Ras Abi:

        You used to be much faster in the Weyane days. The medemer era is making you lose ur edge:

        Liyu police: Weyane era
        Public speaking and education: the Abiy era

        Wake me when the lesson is about power and exponents

        Saay

        • Abi

          Saaytanic

          Well played, Sir!
          The thing is it is not because Abi became slow it is because Abiye is too fast. Impossible to catch up with him.
          ታላቁ መሪያችን አለው የደስደስ
          ከኋላ ነው ሲሉት ከፊት የሚደርስ !!!

          As per your order I will wake you up for the inauguration of the base.

          • saay7

            Abi:

            Your PM is just the right speed for me.
            One observation: today he was in Djibouti with every African leader. Everybody was wearing suit—-except him. He had the Mao suit on henceforth known as the Isaias uniform.
            When you recover all the loot from EFFORT, Tirit, Wendo, Dinsho (the “party-statals” in the memorable discription of Siye) hire him an executive assistant to check these things in advance. Since according to our Foreign Minister Osman Saleh, he is “our leader” now.

            saay

          • Abi

            I agree you are a perfect match with him in every imaginable way.
            His speech at Djibouti was just perfect. His hat is a killer! He dressed up just like any guy from the street of Djibouti. He is telling them that he is theirs and they are his. Boom! Genius!
            I did not see Isu. May be Nitricc will tell us why Isu was absent.

            You want him to look the part? I don’t know what you mean but I tell you he was looking the port:)

  • saay7

    Alex:

    How am I underestimating the people? The people continue to resist, and continue to be punished for it. And a lot of them didn’t even take the govts “$h!t” before, during or after the F&B (thoughts and prayers.) My advice was for this resistance to be effective, you can’t play by the rules of those who have four decades of experience of crushing resistance by identifying its potential leaders.

    saay

  • saay7

    Abi:

    It’s actually not a retirement package but a starter kit for vulnerable members of our society. A micro loan.

    saay

    • Abi

      Hi Saay
      I’m kind of confused. What is the retirement age in the Kingdom Eritrea? 18?

      • saay7

        Abi:

        You can retire anytime you like, as long as you don’t stop working.

        saay

  • ‘Gheteb

    This Forums Hyper Imaginative “Stringer” Report: A Deconstruction

    Greetings!!

    First things first. Let us see what the “Stringer” of this Forum, Kbrom, is OSTENSIBLY, to have in his possession.

    ” Kbrom • a day ago
    Hi all
    For your eyes only
    ‘the hyper-imaginative “stringer” of this Forum’ has documented information of who is in WediKassa’s and Simon’s payroll, who is at 700 Euro/Month, who is at USD 72,000/per annum + ‘infiltration allowance’ what is the informants manual and guidelines etc”.

    The thing is that if he has “documented information” about those informants who are in the payroll of Wedi-Kassa and Simon, one is forced to ask:

    1) why this ” documented information” is NOT made public?
    2) why is he alleging that he has this “documented information”?
    3) Could it be that it has a MINATORY intent finger-wagging at those who don’t buy his PHANTASMAGORICAL reports?
    4) or, is it possible that this “documented information” is only safely ensconced in the deep recesses of this Forums hyper-imaginative “stringer”s psyche or mind?

    Now, he has literally came up with a newly minted report that purportedly gauges the mood of Eritreans in Asmara, Eritrea. Here are some examples that consistently show where it all comes from, meaning, the exact wellspring of this made-up and APOCRYPHAL information.

    A. Regarding PIAs visit to UAE, the “Stringer” is claiming that:

    ” The amount is said to the tune of 1.5 Billion which will include the total renewal of port of Assab (Port of Rotterdam style with industrial areas and general cargo transhipment handlings) and building new Jetties near Assab”.

    Those whose memory is not seriously compromised will remember that the same Kbrom has claimed previously that the “renewal of port of Assab” was part of the 3 billion dollars deal that Ethiopia got from UAE. How could both claims be true simultaneously? They simply can’t. I can literally hear the gears in Kbroms hyper-imaginative mind grinding as they are abruptly shifting into an overdrive.

    B) Regarding what the general public are discussing, here is what he said:

    ” Generally speaking, people in Asmara are very optimistic hoping for positive change to come; open discussion in public places is becoming normal”.

    Yeah, what is new here. The VOA had its reporter asking people what their reaction was about the Ethio-Eritrean peace and all of them were, by and large, upbeat. Here one can’t fail to see the hyper-imaginative “stringer” to string sentences to claim that ” open discussion in public places is becoming normal” as if that wasn’t the case before.

    C) Regarding Information and source of information, the “Stringer” said that:

    ” There is resentment and questions by the people and specially by the cadres and senior officials as to why such crucial events and developments are not formally announced and why people are left to get their information from Ethiopian TV”.

    One is forced to wonder that how these PFDJ cadres and senior officials are hopping from one coffee shop to another bar to vent their resentment and frustration openly and publicly very publicly and openly. incredibly and unimaginably UNBELIEVABLE!

    D) Attitudes towards the Amharas and what the “stringer” dubiously asserted:

    ” The rapid change of tone towards Amhara and the ‘unnatural love affair’ is not appreciated by many cadres”.

    While the stringer doesn’t say how many is the “many cadres” one is left seriously scratching his head if these PFDJ were incognizant of the close relations between the PFDJ and the Ginbot 7 Amhara group. Logic dictates that the PFDJ cadres are/were fully aware of the intimately close relations between the PFDJ and Ginbot 7. This leaves one no room but to conclude that it is far-fetched and hard to swallow.

    E) Concerning views on Tigrayans, the “stringer” hyper-imaginatively reports, but unwittingly lets the bag out of the bag revealing what is dear and close to his heart.

    ” Not few say that for us the people of Tigray are closer than the Amhara and Oromo; though they acknowledge the betrayal of the TPLF leaders they believe that Eritreans should not misidentify their choices. Moreover, they are worried about their kids who are in Tigray refugee camps and believe in the last 17 years the people of Tigray has hosted and gave sanctuary to the Eritrean youth and that Eritreans should be grateful to the Tigray people at least from that perspective”.

    Again, his imagination fails him again in quantifying how many are the “not few”. One can readily see that it is an utterly made-up claim. It’s sole purpose is to engender good feelings, sympathy and positive attitudes towards the Ethiopian Tigrayans.

    We have seen in this Forum the unending worries about how close the people of Tigray are from being attacked and persecuted by the Amhara and Oromos. These characters have added to the din by raising the decibel of VICTIMOLOGY that the Weyanes have been echoing these days.

    This tidbits by the “stringer” precisely fits that line of thinking and it is meant to augment it and hence why I find it to be highly IMPLAUSIBLE.

    F) The hyper-imaginative “stringer” of this forum is claiming what the supporters of the Government are saying:

    ” we will see change including demobilisation and other ‘miracle announcements’ then the government will focus on national development; another group of the supporter say (are being told to say) since the forces who declared war against the Eritrean people are still there and PMAA can not do anything in regard to border demarcation without their cooperation, the army will stay as it is”.

    First off, notice how the “stringer” claims that the supporters “SAY” to ” ARE BEING TOLD TO SAY” indicating some confusion in that hyper-imaginative mind. What is more, is the fact that if there are “supporters of the government” then it could only mean that there are those who oppose the government in Asmara, Eritrea. Now, that is something unheard of and completely a made-up assertion and that is why I am more than convinced that the claim is a product of the “stringer” mind and nothing else. A fabricated LIE, pure and simple.

    G) Anent inviting prime minster Abiy’s invitation to the Sawa festival, the “stringer”s hyper-imaginative mind concocted that:

    ” The same supporters are saying PMAA is invited to attend on the upcoming SAWA Festival”.

    Which supporters is he talking about? The ones talking about demobilization or those who consider that PMAA being too weak to implement the EEBC rulings. Why would they want to invite him if PMAA is incapable of implementing the border decision? It does NOT make any sense whatsoever.

    H) Apropos what senior officials of Eritrean government know and whether they are in the loop or not, the “stringer” claims that:

    ” Senior officials do not have any information more than what the people know, they were not happy the way the Eritrean delegation acted in Addis, specially the army officials express how ‘disgusting it was to see YG speaking in Amharic’ the army has their own yardstick. Some senior officials are happy stating ‘at least we hand down peace to the coming generation’”.

    Let us see here and just check, by way of COUNTERPOINTS if,
    (I) FM Osman Saleh
    (ii) Yemane Gebreab
    (iii) Yemane Gebremeskel

    who are at the tip of the spearhead of the ongoing Ethio-Eritrean peace negotiation are in the dark and if that even have one iota of logic behind it. I am sorry to let the hyper-imaginative “stringer” of this Forum that is an intentional UNTRUTH and a PURE LIE.

    (I) Regarding meetings in various ministries and the age limitations, the “stringer” claims that:

    ” What is surprising is all ministries and departments were instructed to hold meetings of staff under 35 years old, any one over 35 is not encouraged to attend the meeting. In that meeting the U35 are being told the old generation has done its part by securing independence now it is your turn to do your obligation. In the meetings the youth are encouraged to discuss different topics two days ago the discussion was whether PMAA’s arrival is beneficial or dangerous for Eritrea, the youth are talking freely. Call it a mini Eritrean Glasnost and Perestroika”.

    Forget about the age restrictions for a second here whose sole intent is to whet the appetite of those who have been clamoring for the change of the old guard, the most pertinent question to ask is:

    Didn’t the “stringer” just claim that ” Senior officials do not have any information more than what the people know”? Which one is it? But, you notice that even a hyper-imaginative mind has a has a hard time to keep up with the faux information it engenders and manufactures.

    (J) Regarding some high ranking PFDJ officials and their reactions to PMAA statement ” ‘we know Eritrea is not a democratic country but it is their domestic issue, we also know that PIA admits that he is not democratic leader’”, here is what is forced to ask:

    Why would the high ranking officials worry about such statement of PMAA knowing what they know about the PFDJ system. I think the hyper-imaginative “stringer” of this Forum is mightily trying to implant the notion by way of insinuation that PMAA has the power to effect change in Eritrea and that is what the high ranking PFDJ officials are expecting. Well, that is indicative of the “stringer”s SOPHOMORIC way of thinking.

    (K) Concerning the Eritrean youth, he claimed that:

    ” Regardless of the optimistic atmosphere it seems that the youth want to go abroad to study, many of them say that they do not want to continue the illegal crossing, however, if and when freedom of movement is allowed they want to go abroad to study, for them education in Eritrea is hopeless, at least for the foreseeable future”.

    What an earth-shattering news! Wow! Wow! The hyper-imaginative “stringer” of this Forum, has finally run out of steam and have settled to reporting and stating the obvious. Yeah, even a hyper-imaginative mind does desperately needs a respite from CONCOCTING imaginative “news”.

    • Abrehet Yosief

      Selam ‘Gheteb,
      The gentleman doth protest too much, methinks

      • Nitricc

        Hi Abrehet; the real gentleman doesn’t run his mouth without real sources.

    • Mez

      Dear ‘Gheteb,
      A lot of hard work for you.

      Thanks

  • Hayat Adem

    Hi Friends,
    So OLF gets Oromia’s Naqamte town on a silver platter – PIA’s scheme seems working
    https://www.facebook.com/ONNRoom/videos/416684405508870/

    • Peace!

      Hi Hayat,

      What silver platter? Do you know what TPLF and its Ex generals have been preaching? Well, the pattern is too obvious for anyone to notice.

      https://youtu.be/BeCdANqa2UA

      Peace!

    • Teodros Alem

      Selam hayat
      tigrai is controlled by tplf so what is wrong if naqamte “controlled” by olf?.
      How is that ur concern?

      • Peace!

        Hi TA,

        You have a good point, but the point of the message is rather to preemptive and pave away to justify what TPLF is planning to do. Remember the great Rahewa has warned us several times that the fire has already started and it will consume Eritreans too.

        Peace!

        • Teodros Alem

          Selam peace
          Yes, she also trying to tell as if tplf care about ethiopia unity, as if they r not the one working hard to dismantle ethiopia for the last 44 years.

      • Simon Kaleab

        Teodros,

        Some points:

        1) Tigray has many thousands years old history, with Geez/Tigrinya speakers residing there.

        2) On the evidence of TPLF’s success during the armed struggle, the organisation has an overwhelming support from Tigrayans.

        3) The Oromo/Galla came to Wollega from North Kenya not more than 500 years ago. When they migrated there, Wollega was not empty, it was inhabited by other people.

        4) Is there any evidence that shows uncontested or overwhelming support for OLF by those who live in Wollega?

        • Teodros Alem

          Selam simon
          Arbegna wayena, u know what tbat mean? Ask eritreans , they will tell u.
          Show me scientific written evidence.

          • Simon Kaleab

            I am an Eritrean, I do not know about you though.

            For one of the points I raised, support for the TPLF, you need to ask Tigrayans.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam simon
            I know all about it, i also know the whole huto rally along hutos.
            My point is success.
            any ways ask them the meaning of areBegna wayena.

    • Mez

      Dear Hayat, what is wrong with opening offices? The government is trying to open political space for all. “Every one” is going to compete for power in the comming elections.

      Thanks

      • Hayat Adem

        Mez,
        What office¡ Are you kidding!

        • Mez

          Good day Hayat,

          I don’t get it.

          Thanks

      • FishMilk

        Hi Mez. Without an Ethiopian census exercise having been undertaken, as per constitutionally required, do you believe that 2020 elections will take place as scheduled? Grateful for your thoughts.

    • Bruk Awet

      Hi Hayat. Your knowledge and analysis of the politics of the region is deep and through. Why not you come to fb, that many people can follow you. You may help in clearing the mess clouding us.

  • Berhe Y

    Hi Abi,

    As saay would say, your memory is scary. The only person that I know that can match you is, my friend iSem. He reminds not only stuff that I said, but actually stuff I did that I totally forgot.

    How could I forget 1986. It was significant year for me, because 1) it the year my father bought for us TV (color at that) and it’s the year I watched world cup at home, even though it was late (due to time difference) and many power interruptions. Falco, Zico, Platini, Tigana, Socratis, Careca, Maradona, good times.

    The only sport that I watch religiously is world cup and Euro cup every two years. The rest of the year, I pay little attention. For example, I never get the favor people have for Messi because of his poor performance in the world cup.

    Berhe

  • Berhe Y

    Hi Abi,

    Actually France is Brazil nightmare, specially during Zidane time. I am thinking Belgium will eliminate them but if win they can be in the finals.

    Berhe

  • saay7

    Selam Abi:

    Man, let it go 🙂 I called him the “calm Weyane” because I am more likely to listen to people when they are unexcitable and prepare for their interviews and not speaking “off-the-cuff”—even when they are saying crazy things. One of the reasons the General is not happy with Abiy is that he fears he has opened the genie bottle. Now that the “narrow thinkers” have been empowered, he explains calmly, the next ones to rise up and make demands are “the Muslims.” He doesn’t say the Islamists, the Muslim extremists, the radical Muslims. Just “the Muslims.” These Muslims making demands as citizens is something he warns about.

    Back when you guys were all in your TPLF=Ethiopia phase of your lives (especially KH and Horizon), I used to tell you that the TPLF, coming from the monochromatic province of Tigray is least equipped to understand and deal with multicultural societies. Remember? Or did you take another rabbi sabbatical?

    saay

  • FishMilk

    Hi Abi. Well, I guess it’s safe to say that if PIA & family ever needs to make a rapid escape from Eritrea, they won’t be going to Zimbabwe.

  • Abraham H.

    Selam Awatista, is there anyone who have any information about the mood of the people inside Eritrea regarding the recent peace initiativies by the Ethiopian gov? Are the people enthusiastic, is there any sense of hope that real peace is within reach? One observation the people might already have about the dia regime is that it is even trying to hide from them something which is impossible to hide in this information age. Yeah, aboy Omer or adey Tiblex (fictive names) who live far away from urban centers, might not have the opportunity to follow social media like youtube and facebook; but there is no doubt the young and those with access to the internet or satellite dish could not miss what the delegates of pfdj said in Addis and how they were recieved by their hosts. Yet, the dia regime did not have the gut to show those lively moments to the Eritrean people.
    PS. I don’t want to hear from the known nsu nhna lots, as I know they are always trying to portray a rosy picture of their master’s regime.

    • Blink

      Dear Abraham
      It seems you have no one to ask which means you are over exposed . Every Eritrean in this forum can just click and scan the mood but you as usuall have no one because they never are there. How convenient is that ? Woy gud enkae nezi reana

      • Abraham H.

        Hi Blink, sorry Blink to disappoint you but I’m not going to tell you about my relationship with Eritrea nor do I need your endorsement for that.

    • saay7

      Selam Abraham:

      Come on, Abe, I think it would be awesome to hear from the Nehna Nsu Nsu Nehna (N4) gang right now. Here’s why:

      1. Since they have no opinion of their own and they only form it after they have been told what opinion is the “nationalist” one;
      2. Since Nehna has not spoken yet
      3. They have (like animals who go to the same watering hole even decades after the hole is dry) to instintively continue to condemn Weyane and continue to celebrate the farsightedness of IA.

      Will (please remind me if I forget) what the people are saying by breaking the people into the existing Eritrean classes: the reluctant enablers of the predatory state (EPLF veterans); the victims of the predatory state (people whose family members have been arrested, disappeared); and everybody else (people who have been told things will go back to normal when the undeclared state of emergency is lifted. )

      saay

    • Kbrom

      Dear Abraham and all

      In general terms the mood in Asmara looks as follows

      • Let’s start with the UAE visit, this visit was one of the most fruitful state visit to PIA, he secured huge amount of monetary support, trade and investment. The amount is said to the tune of 1.5 Billion which will include the total renewal of port of Assab (Port of Rotterdam style with industrial areas and general cargo transhipment handlings) and building new Jetties near Assab.

      • Generally speaking, people in Asmara are very optimistic hoping for positive change to come; open discussion in public places is becoming normal

      • There is resentment and questions by the people and specially by the cadres and senior officials as to why such crucial events and developments are not formally announced and why people are left to get their information from Ethiopian TV

      • The rapid change of tone towards Amhara and the ‘unnatural love affair’ is not appreciated by many cadres

      • Not few say that for us the people of Tigray are closer than the Amhara and Oromo; though they acknowledge the betrayal of the TPLF leaders they believe that Eritreans should not misidentify their choices. Moreover, they are worried about their kids who are in Tigray refugee camps and believe in the last 17 years the people of Tigray has hosted and gave sanctuary to the Eritrean youth and that Eritreans should be grateful to the Tigray people at least from that perspective.

      • Government supporters say (are being told to say) we will see change including demobilisation and other ‘miracle announcements’ then the government will focus on national development; another group of the supporter say (are being told to say) since the forces who declared war against the Eritrean people are still there and PMAA can not do anything in regard to border demarcation without their cooperation, the army will stay as it is.

      • The same supporters are saying PMAA is invited to attend on the upcoming SAWA Festival

      • What is surprising is all ministries and departments were instructed to hold meetings of staff under 35 years old, any one over 35 is not encouraged to attend the meeting. In that meeting the U35 are being told the old generation has done its part by securing independence now it is your turn to do your obligation. In the meetings the youth are encouraged to discuss different topics two days ago the discussion was whether PMAA’s arrival is beneficial or dangerous for Eritrea, the youth are talking freely. Call it a mini Eritrean Glasnost and Perestroika.

      • Senior officials do not have any information more than what the people know, they were not happy the way the Eritrean delegation acted in Addis, specially the army officials express how ‘disgusting it was to see YG speaking in Amharic’ the army has their own yardstick. Some senior officials are happy stating ‘at least we hand down peace to the coming generation’.

      • Some of the high ranking officials worry about PMAA’s statement where he stated something to the effect ‘we know Eritrea is not a democratic country but it is their domestic issue, we also know that PIA admits that he is not democratic leader’.

      • Regardless of the optimistic atmosphere it seems that the youth want to go abroad to study, many of them say that they do not want to continue the illegal crossing, however, if and when freedom of movement is allowed they want to go abroad to study, for them education in Eritrea is hopeless, at least for the foreseeable future.

      • Ismail AA

        Selam Dr. Paulos,

        “open discussion in public places is becoming normal”. If that is the case, it bodes well for the future. It could either be once in life time of the regime and he man at its helm or beginning of its demise. I would imagine it in two case scenarios.

        One, the man could be terminally sick to the extent he has persuaded himself to make it sure that his legacy of one-party rule would continue by making opening to YEPDJ trustees whom he could trust to pursue his convictions.

        Two, the case could be that the U-turn he has made regarding the border war and its consequences can implode latent grievances among his generation and veterans in the way it did right after cessation of hostilities and subsequent arrests. He knows it could constitute serious challenge, which could be one of the reasons for alienating the older Higdfites as you have pointed. He could be desperate for time until he installs mechanism and plots to divide and alienate real and potential adeversaries same way he did through out his career.

      • Dear Kibrom,
        Thank you for the detailed report. You have validated the info. i have about the current situation in Asmara. Hope everyone takes note of the important information you provided and act according instead of wallowing in non-issues.

        best

        • saay7

          Selam Samuel, Kbrom, and all:

          So, Abraham: you got a lot more detailed info from Samuel and Kbrom than anything I could come up with about one of theee groups I was going to report on: the “reluctant enablers” of the monocracy. It aligns with what I had heard which is why in my debate with YG I said PFDJ 2.0 is coming. I thought it would be based on some ideological loyalty test but Kbrom is saying it’s an age thing. I am going to take a wild guess and assume Abraham Isaias Afwerki is under 35.

          On the victims of the system (the disappeared and the political prisoners again in my debate with YG I had said there will be at least symbolic release of them. YG surprised me when he said he doesn’t think there are many political prisoners, just people caught attempting to have a normal life. Anyway, my view is arbitrariness will continue to be the law: eight months after their arrest, some of the Akhria protestors have been released and some have not? Who got released who is still jailed? Arbitrary of course.

          Lastly, the third group. I would expand Kbroms answer to say that people’s reasoning for still wanting to leave is not just the absolute meltdown of the education system but a total lack of trust on the government and its institutions.

          I do not hear anything about priority one: demobilizing the indefinitely conscripted. I suppose this is because everybody is realistic and knows it can’t happen until issues of money, housing, more money are solved. Everybody knows that the government’s idea of a retirement package—— 1 cow, 25 chicken, 2 beehives, 20 trees—-is not appealing to our youth.

          saay

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Saay,

            Great analysis. AA was in Sawa around 2002 with someone I know. Based on that, he is up there between 34 – 36 .

            Berhe

          • saay7

            Berhe:

            Here’s what I don’t understand. If PFDJ-II is going to be based on generational power hand-over, why isn’t PFDJ using its 2 youth organizations for that: NUEYS and YPFDJ? Actually, the question is for Kbrom.

            SGJ had a funny story of how, a few years ago, the youthful oppo was going to take over power and they set up orgs which had age limits. Then, when the founders of the orgs, exceeded the age limit they had created, they had 3 choices: pull a Musevini and amend their bylaws; resign and leave it to those who meet the age requirement or splinter into the same pattern followed by their elders. I will let you guess which path they chose.

            saay

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Saay,

            My guess would be the third option, splinter.

            I don’t know what’s wrong with us, this must be a habesha thing, that we don’t know how to hand over power and do something else. If we look at power (political power) as a job or as a position, it’s ok to leave your job and find something else to do.

            Years ago, there was this Eritrean community organization. It was doing some work (may be it still does), but most of the members were non EPLF / PFDJ affalates. So after so many years being run by same group, they had election and decided to hand over to the new board.

            The board member had few laptops that were bought by the community or funding (laptops were expensive then). And the members were using them for their personal use as well. The new board come in and asked the old board to hand over the laptops. It started small like that, and eventually after couple of years, it reached to the point of dividing the board and eventually call the police and close the community, change the locks etc. And I think it may even reached the courts…

            Berhe

        • saay7

          Samuel:

          So, here’s what I would tell the Eritreans in Eritrea who have been invited to “speak freely” and ask any question they have.

          IT. IS. A. TRAP.

          Part of the blessing of getting older and being fortunate enough not to have Alzheimer’s is that you realize that you have seen this movie before. It was the period between June 2000 and September 2001. People talked freely in the morning and were rounded up at night. You know the story of the scorpion and the frog, don’t you?

          saay

          • Paulos

            Selam Sal,

            Do you think Isaias would round up people with subversive ideas in a time when so much pressure is mounting on him. UAE, US and the recent developments in Ethiopia, for instance. You don’t have to respond if you don’t feel like it. I am perfectly ok with that. Thanks.

          • saay7

            Paulos:

            Once upon a time… well, let me use wikipedia:

            A scorpion asks a frog to carry it across a river. The frog hesitates, afraid of being stung, but the scorpion argues that if it did so, they would both drown. Considering this, the frog agrees, but midway across the river the scorpion does indeed sting the frog, dooming them both. When the frog asks the scorpion why, the scorpion replies that it was in its nature to do so.

            Saay

          • Paulos

            Sal,

            Persuasive argument but if Isaias is the scorpion and the frog is the gullible with a green light to talk free, I was hoping you would use a metaphor to represent the role of UAE, US and the new Ethiopia as well.

            Councillor comes forward and proceeds with Exhibit B?

          • saay7

            Paulos:

            Your honor, may I approach the bench.

            {lowers glasses on nose}

            And what makes you think the UAE, US and the new Ethiopia would give any care about what happens to ordinary Eritreans as long as everybody gets theirs? You get a port, you get a port, you get a military base.

            saay

          • Paulos

            Sal,

            Your Honor, please excuse my outfit and hope I don’t remind you “My Cousin Vinny.” Pressed with time to pick up my regular cloth from laundry.

            If I may proceed Your Honor. I may not have gone to Ivy League Law School like my friend but I am capable of spotting fallacy in his argument.

            UAE and Ethiopia may not have or carry moral obligations to pressure a sovereign nation to abide with universal values but U.S. of America has or owns a moral imperative to encourage any nation to practice basic universal rights on its people.

          • saay7

            Paulos:

            😉

            We have e to decide if you are a judge or a lawyer in this melo….WAIT! Just got notification that Fanti Ghana is da house!

            I am sure you will forgive the interruption and let’s all go to Fantis room to get words of wisdom.

            saay

          • Paulos

            Sal,

            Ha ha sure thing.

          • Abi

            Hi Saay
            Your Honor
            What do I do with the jurors? Shall I bring them to Fanti’s chamber?
            Bailiff

          • saay7

            Abi the bailiff:

            Yes, but with all deliberate speed. Be sure to have Fanti in his chamber first. I will not allow people making a mockery of my court.

            saay

          • iSem

            Hi Paulo:
            An Abisque answer to your question would be Yes, Aboslutely!!
            But let me give you the iSemesque version:-)
            Why do you think now PFDJ is allowing open discussion as per Kbrom? Nothing changed the only thing is YM and OS visited Ethiopia and made fools of themselves and us. They could have visited and discussed the peace without the stupid comments of no borders and speaking in Amharic, no one said Amharic is not Yemane’s tongue, no one said PFDJ cares about Eri borders
            They re testing the waters, they did that before, they told ask whatever you want to an assembled kerenites in the 1990s and when one, Muss Hajj dared to ask them, they arrested him and disappeared him the last time I checked
            As Sal argued, as I have said a few times, they will release some prisoners like those they arrested for stealing or corruption and the ppl will be fooled and the Ghetebs will come out of their hibernation , not to defend Eri, not even to defend PFDJ but to protect their enda Safayit (tailor shop) to tell us that PFDJ is reforming and many will fall for it and poor journalist, poor G-15, poor poltical prisons will be forgotten when ppl dance again, when PFDJ version reinvents itself, mutating to even its more dangerous version, and Babylon will blossom

          • Paulos

            Selam Semerile,

            Great to see you back. ጠፊእካ ቀኒሓ። Hope all is well with you.

            I will have to disagree. Isaias can not afford to round up people when he is expected to free real prisoners. A government doesn’t make peace with itself by releasing criminals who broke the law but by releasing political prisoners who opposed his policies.

          • Selam iSem,

            Why do you say that speaking in amharic by the eritrean delegation was a stupid thing to do. If PMAA goes to asmara, i expect and would like him speak in tigrigna at least partially, if not fully, to the eritrean audience.

            I always saw this as a sign of respect when a head of a country visits another and speaks in that country’s language. Some are even ready to be amusingly smiled at for the mistakes they make and their pronunciation.

            If i am not mistaken dia wanted to address an ethiopian audience either in english or arabic and not in amharic, soon after eritrean independence, may even be before the referandum, (i could be wrong in the details) out of contempt. If he comes to addis, this time he has two choices, either to stand in a glass cage and deliver his speech in tigrigna, arabic or english, or stand outside his cage and deliver partially in the language he knows, amharic. The impact on the people of ethiopia will be equivalent to the atmosphere he creates.

            If this is supposed to undermine eritrea’s independence and sovereignty, i do not see the logic in that. In the future if ethiopians and eritreans are going to do business together, they will be forced to speak each other’s language. The chinese are learning amharic and teaching their language at the same time to be able to do business, why not eritreans or any other people for that matter.

          • Sal,
            If we are into creating a roaster of the villainous poisonous stings of the scorpion, I can gladly volunteer more examples to your June 2000-2001 example- you know as part of the blessing/curse of living/growing/working under the PFDJ😉. I think what we have now is not government ‘invitation’ for the people ‘to speak freely’ so that the unsuspected ‘enemy’ of the state surrenders himself/herself without any significant effort by the state. And the ‘free talk’ is not in government Halls. It is a spontaneous explosion of intense discussions in every work place – as one family member put it ‘ሰብ ስራሕ ፈቲሓ ብዛዕብኡ ጥራይ ኢያ ተዕልል ዘላ’- among co-workers and friends etc. To be sure, it is not new for people to carry informal discussions at informal gatherings on matters that do not comport with the state but this time it is sustained and intense and animated by high hopes. Needless to say that government and its supporters will try to dampen down the enthusiasm- it serves them well when the people are hopeless, desperate, emotionally withdrawn and politically disinvested citizens. Oh, the opposition will also characteristically miss to read the leaf properly and we will continue to march on the same beaten path until kingdom comes.
            cheers

          • saay7

            Samuel:

            Excellent points, young man. I would like to draw your attention to the word “opposition”, by which people mean organized opposition. Since there is no political space for it in Eritrea, and since there is no evidence there is organized opposition in the Diaspora, and since this imaginary organization is not holding a slot and preventing others from using the label, I think instead of people complaining about the opposition–as if it is a crown prince wasting a legacy–they should create it. No?

            saay

          • Peace!

            HI Saay,

            I a bit confused here: If the consensus is sustainable change will only come from within, what should be the role of Eritreans in Diasporas: building a network with people inside the country and be a major organ for uprising or movement created by the people, or depend on our own expertise and function independently?

            Peac!

          • saay7

            Peace!

            Excellent question which I will now defer to the U-35 🙂

            My view of the Diaspora Eritrean, particularly in the West is,ገዛና ነጽሪ – create a formidable force to defeat the PFDJ in the Diaspora. This will enable us to come up with a counter-narrative to the mythology and falsehood–I mean just non-stop falsehood–peddled by the PFDJ. We can also amplify the message of the opposition inside Eritrea. Not only amplify it, but remember, they too are a product of unrelenting propaganda of PFDJ so they can benefit from the counter-narrative too. Can you imagine what they have been teaching them in history classes in Eritrea? So: principal role in the diaspora to own the Eritrean narrative; supporting and corrective role for the home-based ones.

            saay

          • Selam Saay,
            If you are in a mood, would you help us list down, in a broad brush, some of the main propaganda linchpins that sustains the PFDJ employs in the diaspora. And a curious additional question: what do you image the history lesson the PFDJ offers to people inside the country to be?

            Thanks

          • saay7

            Hey Samuel:

            That would have to be a crowd-writing we would have to do based on our conversations with (a) recently-arrived former National Service conscripts and (b) former members of EPLF/PFDJ who had been marinated in the PFDJ culture for years. This is not just formal education (schooling), but cadre school and the state-owned media. The best way I can put it is imagine a course given by my cousin Gheteb and our friend Semere T where:

            * Eritreans are presented as gullible and trusting victims who were taken advantage by Haile Selasse, Weyane, and America.
            * Eritreans are then victimized by the tribalist (and possibly Jihadist) ELF
            * Then Eritreans are saved by the great EPLF which had the total support of the people and has a clean and whitewashed history
            * But throughout, there have always been sellouts and want to ride foreign tanks (Weyane tanks). So it is not that the PFDJ is opposed to having an opposition, it is that they don’t exist. ጌጋታት ኣይግበርን ማለት ኣይኮነን:)

            saay

          • Saleh Johar

            Saay,
            It’s being taught online, here. How come you didn’t notice the meneqaqHi tmhrti

      • Paulos

        Caro Kbrom,

        Many thanks. This is truly a Gem! Please keep them coming while Charlie* regurgitates what Fana Broadcasting had to say more about DIA’s itirenary.

        *There seems to be a sort of competition between PFDJ sycophants on who impresses DIA more with fancy English words where Amare and others as well come to mind.

      • Haile S.

        Selamat Kbrom,
        “• Regardless of the optimistic atmosphere it seems that the youth want to go abroad to study, many of them say that they do not want to continue the illegal crossing, however, if and when freedom of movement is allowed they want to go abroad to study, for them education in Eritrea is hopeless, at least for the foreseeable future.” This last point you raised is the most distressing and unfortunate reality that has happened and continues to to the country. The bleeding of the country of its youth for so long during pre- and post-independence periods is the biggest catastrophe that happened to the country. It needs immediate action. The social ladder has been brocken since long time. It is reparable, but need unralented effort by everyone.

      • Abraham H.

        Selam Kbrom, thanks a lot for keeping us posted with valuable info regarding our nation at the existing crossroad we find ourselves in. The U35 thing is very interesting, may be the regime is trying to form its version of Qeero; but unlike the Oromo youth, these Eritrean youth would not have a free and critical thinking but rather something that fits into the narrative of the regime? Also may the despot wants to get into the opinions and thinking of the senior regime officials and veterans through their kids? Let’s hope this time aroud those in positions have taken ample lessons from history as to how the despot gets rid of potential challengers at critical times such as the one we are in and do not repeat past mistakes.

        • Kbrom

          Dear Abraham, saay & all

          There are three additional points that are related to what you raised.

          1 PIA’s circle, including a group lead by his son and the assigned 03 squad are making intensive and concerted campaign against General Flipos W.

          ኣሚንና ዝሃብናዮ ስልጣን ናይ ውልቁ መዐንደሪ ጌርዎ፡ ዓዲ ቤት ማእሰርቲ ቀይርዋ፡ ብልሽውንኡ ኣብ ዝለዓለ ጥርዙ በጺሑ: ናይ ድሕሪ ናጽነት ጀነራል ተድላ ባይሩ ኮይኑልና ወዘተ

          2 The U35 thing is real, does not look like a trap, not to round up, no nothing. They are discussing topics freely and were even told officially that the old generation is handing the over.

          3 The people inside Eritrea – be it supporters or opposers, they do not consider the diaspora as a major force or a factor that can affect what is going on in Eritrea.

          • saay7

            Selam Kbrom:

            1. On General Filipos W. This is why I would make a terrible politician. I now feel very badly for him. I know, I know, I know.

            2. On the U35 and their free discussion. How is that different, Kbrom, from Jan-September 2001 when the Eritrean private press was full of free opinions, letters to the editors and then every single one of the editors, even the people who wrote letters to the editor were rounded up? Please say more about this, specially if you remember what that era was like.

            3. Beside news I ever heard.

            saay

          • Paulos

            Caro Kibrom,

            Again many thanks. Classic authoritarian as in pull-out a menu of scapegoats al’a Stalin on Beria inter alia.

            We were discussing item number 2 with Avvocato Sal and my assumption is that, Isaias can not afford to pull 2001 this time around. He maybe reckless but not stupid. Grazie ancora signore!

          • Abraham H.

            Selam Kbrom, I think I’m the last one who would believe something good would ever come from dia to the Eritrean people:-). But, no one knows, may be as someone has speculated, the dictator could be terminally ill and has recognized that his demise is very soon. So, may be he is preparing the groundwork for a smooth overatke of power by his son. To do that, the peers of Abraham must be organized, the aging struggle era veterans must be kept away, and someone must be held as scapegoat for all the evil under the sun during the last decades-start by Flipos W.,

          • Selam Kibrom,
            I am sure you agree with me that General Philipos has been one of the notorious villains in Eritrea. His brutally is only matched by his gaudy life style he leads (He was a talk of the town when he decorated the exterior of his villa in Travelo with expensive marble slabs) Sacttism had a report on him which validates what is common knowledge in Asmara. In one of his videos, SGJ surprised me by the benefit of the doubt he generously lavished Filipos. If you ask me, I would not shed a single drop of tear if he falls to the cruel system he contributed a lion’s share in sustaining.

          • Saleh Johar

            Wrong Samuel,
            I just questioned because I was using him as a character to understand how human beings morph into something else that one has difficulty understanding the transformation. Don’t you have people you knew decades ago and now you wonder if they are the same people? It was my musings, wondering about life… and growing up differently. Otherwise, I have heard enough my dear, more than I can fathom. Did I lavish anything that was not true? His bravery in the battle was testimonials who now hate him to death. Nothing else.

          • Dear SGJ,
            My apologies for misunderstanding you. I got your drift now. Thank you for correcting me.

          • Hope

            Selam Ustaz kibrom:
            -Not surprised if Gen Philipos is being targeted after being used and left alone to be keido-albo.If what we heard about him and his brutality are/.is true, he deserves worse than being targeted…but still better late than never.
            Poor Philipos,he should have known better that this was coming up-if at al true….even though that is the Modus operandi of PIA.
            Just curious, does what u claimed about Abreham Afewerki imply that he is being prepped to be the Werash Algha?
            A while ago,Medrekh claimed that Abreham is in control of the Aseb Port business and that of the Bisha mining as well and it also broke the news that Abreham is being-groomed for the crown.
            Bt the contradiction we heard is that Gen Philipos is protecting Abreham …
            If so, do you believe that both the old and the new generation would accept that?

    • Peace!

      Hi Abraham,

      I think without speculating the people have a good reason to be optimistic, but the question is rather how proportional measures PFDJ would take to respond to such optimism given the list for optimism is too long: releasing all political prisoners, demobilization, political reform, end economic monopoly, human right, equality… . But one things is clear that measures that do not include releasing all political prisoners will put the people on another cycle of optimism.

      Peace!

      • Paulos

        Selam Abi Seb,

        Speculation has become a national character. For the last 20 years, we have been guessing, speculating and looking for any positive signs where the classic Pavlovian conditioned dog comes to mind as the bell more often than not is a harbinger of an empty plate. You are an intelligent person and certainly you can see that something crucial is terribly amiss as in ካብ ሰብ ዝደሊ ከም ሳእኒ’በሊ።

        • Peace!

          Hi paulosay,

          እቶም ኣብ ውሽጢ ዓዲ ሓኒቑዎም ዘሎው ትስፉዋት እዮም ዘለው እንተተባሂልና ምስኦም ትስፉው ምኻን ዝጎድእ ኣይመስለንን.

          Peace!

      • Amde

        Selam! Peace!

        Oh this one is such a good line:
        “measures that do not include releasing all political prisoners will put the people on another cycle of optimism.”

        Yet Another Cycle of Optimism.

        It’s Gold.

        Amde

  • Selam all,
    Hoping you will take a little respite from discussing Ethiopia, i hereby offer my hastily composed thoughts (not principles! mind you):

    As you all know, people are reacting to the rapprochement between Eritrea and Ethiopia in multiple ways ranging from unqualified celebration to extreme caution and from speculative hope to imagined paranoia. Many are showering the smooth-talking love-oozing good-looking! new Ethiopian Prime Minister with praises for breaking the deadlock – thereby committing the common deadly mistake in our political culture, namely, falling for the appearance of politics and forgetting to consider its substance. One surprising, or, depending on how you look at it, unsurprising twist in the general farcical commotion and confusion we are witnessing is the manner some in our opposition are reacting. Some of those who have been fighting for justice in Eritrea are trading positions with the PFDJ supporters: the first are becoming a ‘final and binding’, ‘ብህጹጽ ዶብና ይመልከት’ hot-bloodied conspiratorial paranoid ultra-nationalist groupie crying Tembienay (Agame!) Isaias has sold us; and the war-mongering aggressive PFDJ knee jerks are becoming the defenders of peace, and visionaries of regional cooperation. Cherry picking tidbits from here and there – citing the faux pas Osman Saleh committed in his speech, Yemane speaking in Amharic, processional placards showing a pre-1991 Ethiopian map carried by Ethiopian demonstrators in Gonder, etc. – some people are extremely agitated and are uttering ‘tedemerna’ tewererna’ cry. I can provide example of such reaction by prominent Eritrean activists, media outlets and active commentators upon request. For now, let me deal with the fresh statement issued by the Executive Committee of the Eritrean People’s Democratic Party (EPDP). Among many things the EPDP statement says:

    …እዚ ከኣ ካብ ቅድም’ውን ንመንግስቲ ኤርትራ ዝዓጦ፡ ጉዳይ ልኡላውነት ከም ዘይነበረን ጠንቂ’ቲ ብርሰት ዘኸተለ ውግእ ጉዳይ ዶብ ከምዝይኮነን መመሊሱ ዝበርህ ዘሎ እዩ ዝመስል። በዚ ኣጋጣሚ ኣካይዳ መንግስቲ ኤርትራ ንልኡላውነት ሃገርና ኣብ ሓደጋ ዘእቱ ከይከውን ስግኣትና ልዑል ምዃኑ ንገልጽ…

    …ሎሚ እዚ ንሃገርናን ህዝብናን ኣንጠልጢልዎም ዘሎ ናይ ዳግመ-ጥልመት ሓደጋ ንዝተወሰነ ውድብ ወይ ክፍሊ ሕብረተሰብ ኤርትራ ጥራይ ዝምልከት ዘይኮነ፡ ንኹልና ሓይልታት ለውጥን በሃግቲ ሰላምን ዘሻቕል ከም ዝኾነ ንርዳእ። ስለዝ ነዚ ሓደጋ ንምምካት ኣብ ቅድሚ ኩልና ኤርትራዊ ፖለቲካዊ ውዳበታት፡ ሲቪላዊ ማሕበራትን ግዱሳት ዜጋታትን ዝምልከት እዩ። በዚ መሰረት ከም መቐጸልታ ናይቲ ቅድሚ ሕጂ ከነቕርቦ ዝጸናሕና ናይ “ብሓባር ንስራሕ” እማመ ሕጂ እውን ነዚ ህልዊ ኩነታት ንምብዳህን ሃገርናን ህዝብናን ካብ ሓደጋ ንምድሓንን ብቕልጡፍ ተራኺብና መፍትሒ ንክንረክብ ሰልፊ ዲሞክራሲ ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ኣዝዩ ህጹጽ መጸዋዕታ የቕርብ።

    መላእ ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ደገፍቲ ጉጅለ ህግደፍ እውን ከይተረፉ፡ እቲ ብናይ ዶብ ምኽንያት ንደቅኻ ኮነ ኩሉ መነባብሮኻ ጀሆ ሒዙ፡ ንኹሉ መሰረታዊ ሕቶታትካ ብናይ ዶብ ኩነታት ኣመሳሚሱ ሓንጊዱ ዝጸንሐ ጉጅለ ህግደፍ ሃንደበት ናብ ኣዲስ ኣበባ ምኻዱ ከም ዝደንጸወካ ተገንዚብና ኣለና። እቲ ሰላም ናይ ክልቲኡ ህዝብታት ኤርትራን ኢትዮጵያን ንደልዮ ጥራይ ዘይኮነ ክንቃለሰሉ ዝጸናሕና እዩ። እንተኾነ ወዮ ኣሸሓት መንእሰያት ዝሓለፍሉ፡ ብዙሓት ቤተሰብ ዝተመዛበልሉን ምግማቱ ዘጸግም ንብረት ዝዓነወሉን ከቢድ በሰላ ውግእ ደኣ “መዓስን ኣበይን ተዘትይሉ ተፈቲሑ?” እዩ ናብዚ ዝተዓዘብናዮ ወዛሕዛሕ ተበጺሑ? ዝብል ሕቶ ከም ዘሕድረልካ ፍሉጥ እዩ። እዚ ኩነታት ምናልባት እውን ጉዳይና ብዘይፈለጥናዮ ናይ ካልኦት ኢድ ኣትይዎ ንሉኡላውነትና ኣብ ዋጋ ዕዳጋ ናብ ዘውርድ ኣቕጣጫ ይኸይድ ከይህሉ ተገንዚብካ ኣንጻርቲ ሸርሕታት ዝተሓወሶ ዝመስል ኣካይዳ ህግደፍ ክትለዓል ንጽወዓካ። ህግዲፍ ተሓቢእሉ ዝጸንሐ ተቐሊዑ ስለ ዘሎ ደጊም ካልእ መሕብኢ ምስምስ ክምህዝ ዕድል ክንህቦ ኣይግባእን። ጉዳይና ምስ ኢትዮጵያ ዘሎ ጸገም ብምፍታሕ ዝድቅስ ዘይኮነ እቲ ቀንዲ ጉዳይና ዜቤታዊ ሕቶ ሰላም፡ ልምዓትን ዲሞክራስን ምዃኑ ከኣ ክትዝንግዕ ኣይግበኣካን። ሓይልታት ምክልኻልን ካልኦት ውዱባት ኤርትርውያንን እውን ኣብ ጐድኒ ህዝቦም ክስለፉ ንጽወዖም።
    For me, this call for arms against presumed treasonous deal the PFDJ is supposedly making with Ethiopia is nothing but an empty diaspora patriotic swagger. Or it is probably the function of a poorly thought attempt to fish in the muddied waters for disgruntled lumpen Pfdjtariate. Otherwise, if we agree the border issue has been a phony excuse the PFDJ used to arrest the country’s development for the last two decades, why on God’s Earth do we want to resurrect this non-issue as a serious issue needing our urgent attendance? If the last twenty years has one singular lesson for us, it is the futility of pandering to supposedly patriotic (populist?) crap. If the EPDP, and other people for that matter, thinks our people in the army and national service would rise in anger against the PFDJ for dealing with Ethiopia, it means they have not been paying attention to the fact that hundreds of thousands of Eritreans have abandoned their post despite a better and consistent propaganda by the ruling party.

    If opposition organisations and activists have energy to expend, why do they dissipate it on gual mengedi? Why do they have to play a game whose rule is set and perfected by the PFDJ? What will all these people waxing patriotic-than-thou do when or if the PFDJ manages to get the border demarcated according to the EEBC ruling on top of striking economic and security deals with Ethiopia? Return back to their cellar? I think this is a propitious time for all of us to concentrate on what we should concentrate: refine our mission, energise our organisations, standardise and synchronise our media campaigns, actively look out for partners inside the country etc.

    Samuel

    • Paulos

      Selam Samuel,

      Glad you brought that up. And well said! ኣዲኣ ገዲፋ ሓትናኣ ትናፍቕ ኮንና’ለና።

    • Kokhob Selam

      Dear Brother,Samuel,

      Nice,

      Correcting our stand should be first thing.

      One thing I agree with you and do what ever is possible is, peace journey was not born just when the Ethiopian Dr.Abiy arrived..The struggle was there since decades back and the ex-PMS were also informing us all. Even EX-HMP was informing that he will go to Asmara months back before he step down.The struggle was always there within us.

      We all know what has closed the chapter.,,The PFDJ leaders are the cause of the trouble and still they are the once.

      Now, They are trying to tell us the cause was Bademe..and they for peace….

      KS,,

      • Blink

        Dear KS
        Did you mean PMS as ex because of his death? Ok first he did not warn anything second he did not accept the EEBC and all the Algeris agreement, third if he was alive we never arrive at the current stage. He was ugly evil just as DIA . Forget PMH , he also said he will change regime as if it was on his will. We all know the talk by the was just talk not walk . The main game was to break Eritrea according to its ethnic mix . So pls save us from this last 2 decades old lies of weyane . Just hope if the peace plane got through good hands .

        • Kokhob Selam

          Dear Blink,

          Read me carefully….what I mention above is Haile Mariam Desalenge,,

          Even Meles (RIP) was the same, why do you want to go against dead as what your boss was doing? ” ራዛ ናይ ኣብኡ ሓዛ ” can I say that is for you?

          I was in injured, by the same groups of TPLF + EPL..but that is now history for me… I have forgotten the past..I know how life is and I have forgiven both those fronts from my mind..

          KS,,

    • Ismail AA

      Selam Samuel,

      Pardon me if my faculty failed me to understand what you are suggesting. Are you telling us the two camps your have identified ([pro-regime pacifists and opposition demarcate-now proponents) are spoilers of possibilities of peace as offered by the Ethiopians? “What will …[opposition] … do when or if the PFDJ manages to get the border demarcated according to the EEBC ruling on top of striking economic and security deals with Ethiopia?, you have asked. But, also the flip side of it would be: what if the regime would simply abandon the issue as immaterial and goes for other matters that serve its power interests and sustenance of authoritarian rule?. What I gathered so far is that the concern of the opposition is not disinterest in peace. The concern is making peace with Ethiopia while blocking that peace ushering in peace inside Eritrea. Do not you think it is not legitimate to be concerned and argue for linking external peace to internal peace.

      There is no point in making peace with neighbors while imposing lawlessness and state of fear inside. Thus, what I understood from your input is the opposition, and the people by and large, should accept the current Ethio-Eritrean development as fait accompli and simply wait until things take their course. Moreover, I did not get for what end we should “refine our mission, energise our organisations, standardise and synchronise our media campaigns, actively look out for partners inside the country etc”. Is it for supporting the regime (or letting it alone) to make peace on its terms regards what the people think and feel in anticipation of material bonanza peace with Ethiopia would bring.

      • Dear Ismail,
        Consider the discussion as a brainstorming exercise not as expression of principles. That way, it would be easier, at least for me, to retreat from what I have said or from what I will say in a youthful naïveté. Now to your questions:
        1) I am not saying those who are waxing uber-patriotic are anti-peace elements out to spoil the peace process. As I hope you recognize, the process is completely outside the domain of citizenry influence and the opposition is not in any position to exercise any leverage to influence it. From a dispassionate pragmatic calibration of its capabilities, the opposition should realise that gyrating around the issue is an exhaustive exercise without any prospect of significant benefit. At a principle level, the opposition can condemn the PFDJ for squandering thousands of lives, resources and time of the country to do what it is doing now which it could have done 16 years ago. That is perfectly legitimate. But, using the issue as a strategic instrument to rally people behind it does not strike me as a good idea. For one thing, it is most likely that the PFDJ will undercut it by ensuring the demarcation of the border- with or without a change to the EEBC ruling. At any rate, the border issue is PFDJ’s toy. Thus, the opposition is better off if it does not spend time and energy on it.

        2. You said there is no point in making peace with neighboring countries while maintaining a lawless state of affairs inside the country. In fact there is. Let me explain: Having a troubled relations with neighboring countries and instituting a lawless state of internal affairs are related but two separate causes of Eritrea’s problems. I think both issues need to be disentangled. In that light, if peace with Ethiopia is effected it definitely means one less cause of Eritrea’s troubles. As a friend put it, “peace with neighbors and lawlessness inside is better than war with neighbors and lawlessness inside..even if we (willingly) disregard the implication of peace to the internal dynamics.”

        3. My point about the need to “refine our mission, energise our organisations, standardise and synchronise our media campaigns, actively look out for partners inside the country etc” is obviously not to support the regime. (I consider myself part of the opposition eko ato Ismail). My call is for us to concentrate on what we are set out to do: to bring about internal changes apropos democratisation and normalisation of our political system.

        thanks

        • Ismail AA

          Dear Samuel,
          Thank you; it’s know clear. I was just confused in relating the issues you raised to one another and calibrate them with my own assessment of the situation which are not really far apart. Sorry to had taken your time. Thanks again, dear.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Samuel,

          This comment of yours is more clear to the point, and it’s tone invites more engagement than your first comment. The tone of our languages are very important.

        • Hope

          Selam Sami:

          You correctly declared saying:

          “My point about the need to “refine our mission, energise our organisations, standardise and synchronise our media campaigns, actively look out for partners inside the country etc” is obviously not to support the regime. (I consider myself part of the opposition eko ato Ismail). My call is for us to concentrate on what we are set out to do: to bring about internal changes apropos democratisation and normalisation of our political system”.

          No body else thus far,has said it and could say it better,.

          I repeatedly mumbled and stumbled to say what you said in a paragraph or two, but since Samuel,not Hope, said it, hope people will pay attention to this Golden Statement of yours.

          That is exactly what I told SAAY in my previous comment.

          Thanks for reminding Vet Ustaz Ismael.

          It is beyond my comprehension and belief as to why these “Old Gen Folks” , the Opposition Groups / the “Justice Seekers’. and the “Activists” are pessimistic and disappointed about the latest Ethio-Eri Peace process.

          May be coz the PFDJ is not weeded out,to their DISMAY.

          Bingo again for quoting your astute friend’s observation:

          “…. “peace with neighbors and lawlessness inside is better than war with neighbors and lawlessness inside..even if we (willingly) disregard the implication of peace to the internal dynamics.”

          .
          And believe me,AND MARK MY WORDS as well,that, Peace with Ethiopia seems to be the preliminary step towards peace in Eritrea.
          With respect…and best regards for your well balanced, rational, reasonable ,pragmatic, golden and wise contributions and views here.

  • Berhe Y

    Dear Abi,

    I am glad you did. I too am enjoying, I just wish the transition go smooth. The bomb in the rally, may have changed a lot things, if the attempt was on the PM life.

    BTW, I predict Brazil / Croatia final. And I want Croatia to win, even thought my heart is always with Brazil.

    Berhe

  • Haile S.

    ኣባ ትልቁ፡
    ኣሁንስ መጣህብኝ በውስጥ ኣንደቤቴ
    እንዴት እምቢ ልበል ተቀላቅለህ ከ’ህቴ
    ጡንቻ መጣህብኝ ተጠግተህ ባጥንቴ

    በኔና ባንተ መካከል ገብቶ ሊጋመንቱ
    እሱ የሚያስበው ኣንተ ከኔ መለያየቱ
    ረስቶት መገናኛ መሆኑን ዋና መሰረቱ
    ለጊዜው ሰክሮ ነው በዝቶበት ጭነቱ
    ተወው ያስብበት እንደማያዋጣው ኣጉል እምነቱ
    ውሎ ኣድሮ ኣይቀርም ከኛ መጠጋቱ
    ጎረቤት ሆነን ይሁን ተወዋህደን እንደጥንቱ

    • Abi

      Selam Gashiye
      የምን ጉርብትና የምን እራቅ እራቅ
      አፍ የሚዋሸውን ልቦናችን ሲያውቅ መገናኛው ጅማት ተቆርጦ እንዳይወድቅ
      እጃችን ተያይዞ ማቆሚያችን ይጥበቅ
      ጨለማው ይገፈፍ ብርሃናችን ይድመቅ
      አብይ መሪ ይምጣ አህዛብ ይታረቅ
      ጠላት ይሸማቀቅ

  • Mez

    Dear Rahwa,
    Your “enemy” is in your imaginary brain.

    Thanks

  • saay7

    Selam Rahwa:

    IF, 27 years after Derg was removed, the people of Tigray have only one viable political party which represents them;
    IF, I have heard the TPLF=Tigray and Tigray=TPLF not just from you Rahwa but from many members of TPLF
    IF, the idea of “Revolutionary Democracy” that TPLF has, at its core, belief in vangard organizations,

    THEN, it is not just your personal opinion, but that of TPLF. It is a value system. And since the “Eritrean portfolio” within EPRDF was owned by TPLF, it stands to reason that they also believe that there should be an EPRDF-like system in Eritrea, made up of a coalition of one-ethnicity political tribes.

    Well, no, I don’t blame the TPLF for being TPLF. It made no secret of its ideology: it published it in manifestos; it showed it in practice when it adopted DEMHIT and SEDEGE (two Eritrean orgs who believe in its version of revolutionary democracy.) I was marveling at the Eritrean opposition for expecting the TPLF to abandon its ideology and propose anything but it repeatedly proposed: political tribes with hand-selected tribal chiefs running them.

    I know you said you have no interest in Eritrea but, unlike in Tigray, in Eritrea, the EPLF was renamed PFDJ in 1994 and some of the strongest opposition to PFDJ comes from EPLF. Thus, your claim that Eritrea=EPLF will have to be revised in light of those facts.

    But, in general, equating countries with political parties is dangerous because the enemy of the political party automatically becomes enemy of the state. Remember when Abiy visited Mekele, one of the questioners asked him what about the thousands of Tigrayans imprisoned by TPLF and he deferred that to the governor of the province. Because the rules of EPRDF which he was operating within (he was new then) told him to defer to the franchise owner of that territory.

    saay

  • Saleh Johar

    Hello Paulo and Kaddis,and Amde

    Here it is the copy of the comment….
    —————–

    Hi Amde,
    You have been contributing valuable analysis on the issue at hand… I am grateful for that.

    Now, given the rhetoric (with subtle messages), and fringe interest who according to my observation, has almost hijacked Abyi’s goodwill among the people, and his wide acceptance, it seems they have copted his platform. I see a dangerous trend of vilifying Tigrayans in the guise of anti-TPLF jingoism and it is sad. Do you think enough people are paying attention to that, and where it can lead in an ethnically polarized politics? Is my view exaggerated or overly cautious? Those who are piggybacking on the Abyi craze are forces with whom we have enough experience to scare the hell of us Eritreans from what could ensue if they are not checked. The thought of Key Shibber activists finding a crack to sneak through is very worrying to me and many others. Your views on that, please.

    Thank you

    • Paulos

      Selam Ayay,

      Happy 4th of July!

      That is exactly what it is. Hate towards TPLF is hate towards the Tigrean people. If a Tigrean goes to the Amhara region or Oromo region, they don’t call the person “ኣንተ ሌባ ወያነ”, they call him “ኣንተ ሌባ ትግሬ.” The tone gets its roots from the belief that all Tigreans are Weyane.

      As you have rightly put it, Kassa kebede among haters-in-chief are piggybacking on the day time peacemaker to avenge 27 years old bitterness and resentment not so much to destroy the Weyanes but to destroy what they had offered [Pride, Recognition and Degnity among nations of the world] the country not through self indulgence and growing big belly but through blood and sweat instead.

      • Peace!

        Hi Paulosay,

        It is really sad. But do you think things would have been different today had Tigreans joined their follow Ethiopians against TPLF deadly response to peaceful protests? It seems the logic “silence is complicit” is well in place.

        Of course not to mention Tigreans with Nehna Nesa Nesa Nehna slogan.

        Peace!

        • Paulos

          Selam Abi Seb,

          I certainly agree with the fact that, the glaring ethnic tension finds its roots with the then prescribed ethnic based federal arrangement. That said, however, as much as it has the said serious downside, it has its merits as well. One of the reasons that magnified the downside of the political system is the rampant corruption particularly with in the power house of the TPLF. The corruption was not limited to TPLF but other organs of EPRDF as well as in OPDO and ANDM.

          That said, the issue I have is, the generalization where an out right condemnation laced with a pent up hate in a complete denial of the Front’s positive contributions.

        • rahwa

          Hello Peace,

          Why would Tigrayans oppose TPLF? It is the party that saved them from the jaw of Mengistu. Whatever shortcomings they have its by individuals not the organization. TPLF will always be supported by Tigrayans. The reason Eritreans don’t rise up against Shabia is because they know Shabia gave them back their own country and you cannot under any circumstances forget the core principles- any hiccups are temporary. There’s no one who loves Ethiopia more than Tigrayans, but since they have been accused of everything under the sun- let the Amharas who have been singing “Ethiopia! Ethiopia!” for 27 years save her. The other kilis will not be involved in this drama.

          You know how Isaias’ plan is to disintegrate Ethiopia? He’s working day and night for it. But I feel sorry he’s going to endanger Eritrea’s existence because the fire he started may consume Eritrea as well. Eritrea came from blood and sweat and Tigrayans know this. Tigrayans are principled people.They never once questioned Eritrea’s existence. They’ve always said: they fought and they won. They earned their country. Eritreans should understand this and not join the bashing of Tigrayans. At the end of the day, there will never be a government in Ethiopia that will 100 % accept Eritrean sovereignty like TPLF.

          • saay7

            Peace!

            Yeah, what Rahwa said man. Tigray means TPLF and Eritrea means EPLF. The rest, as Abrar once sang, ኣይነበረን ካልእ: ኣይነበረን ካልእ! And remember, it was from people who hold these values that some in the Eritrean opposition were expecting a sympathetic ear about liberty and justice. In the end, they were all given an empty can and when they asked what for they were told “ነዴኹም ማይ ውረዱላ::

            Saay

          • rahwa

            Hello saay7,
            To continue, I don’t want to get involved in Eritrean politics. However, if you want my opinion the reason why the opposition didn’t succeed was not because of lack of TPLF support, it was because you guys were not clear in your message to your people. You didn’t tell them individuals had to be removed, you went on an attack on the whole system. But this is just an opinion – I don’t have a dog in the fight.

          • saay7

            Rahwa:

            To continue:) The reason people hear “Tigray” when people criticize “TPLF” is because in their ear channel they use your formula of “Tigray=TPLF=Tigray.” You have it and, most assuredly, Hayat this auto-translator:)

            saay

          • Blink

            Dear Rahwa
            Not only that , our leaders in the opposition told us the following.
            1.The Tigrinya are supporting DIA
            2. They asked for many mini states
            3. They asked for sheria rule
            4. They asked power by affirmative action
            5. They supported Islamists and Agazians
            6. They benefited from weyane money
            7. They tried to insult our founders
            8. The activists insulted our martyrs
            9. They drive weyane Tanks and asked the youth to shoot their own brothers.
            10. They lied in order to sanction the people not DIA

            At the end the majority of the youth rejected the old political propaganda of the few and went to west to make life.

          • Amde

            Saay,

            He doesn’t even need a statute. Just free elections. With the laws on the books.

            Amde

          • saay7

            Amde:

            I meant about redrawing the political districts (the provinces)

            saay

          • Abi

            Hi Saay
            You mean all 14 provinces included?

          • saay7

            Selam Abi:

            But that requires amending your constitution. Plus are you still pretending you want the whole land and people? The one you want, Asab, you will have: just two men signing documents. You guys will celebrate big time. Our side will be told that the two men discussed “bilateral and regional issues” and signed investment agreement. And that’s if we are lucky. Nitricc and Gheteb will hail it as yet another brilliant IA move.

            Happy 4th!

            saay

          • Haile S.

            ሰላም ኣባ ትልቁ፡
            13ቱ ትተው፡ ለምን ጠቅልለው እኛ’ጋ ኣይመጡም። እንደ ማንኛውም ኤርትራዊ ትንሽ መሬት፡ ቢያንስ ቢያንስ በወረቀት ይደርስዎታል, እድሜ ለህታችን።
            እንዳውም ኣግኝተን እርስዎን የመሰለ
            በወርቅ እና በሰም በቅኔ የበሰለ

          • Amde

            Ah Saay,

            Yes.

            That one, I agree the language in the constitution allows him to do that. But I am not sure it is politically feasible to do now. Principally from Oromo activists. They have said it is their red line. Everybody else can be persuaded/charmed into alternative arrangements I think.

            Happy 4th!

            Amde

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam a mde
            Andm also said most part of walega(gafat) and most part of shawa r historically abbissnian and now shared land and the same with gogam and wollo shared land . Dagu just said it in front of lema when they came to bahir dar for so called people to people friendship.

          • saay7

            Ah so, Amde:

            So maybe change the electoral laws. A state/kill/province cannot send representatives to the Federal parliament unless it has at least two political parties and the people gave their consent in a free and fair election.

            Wait, wait. You are saying what’s to stop Weyane I (or ANDM I, or OPDO I) from creating Weyane II (or ANDM II etc) and having a fake contest? I got a solution for that too: rewrite the law on political parties and what qualifies them to be one.

            Saay

          • Peace!

            Hi Rahwa

            Well come back! Well in 1991 there were two major historic events occurred in Ethiopian history: Derg was defeated and TPLF and Tigreans embraced Ethiopia. The transition was smooth and the unity was promising. In the last twenty-seven years all Ethiopians celebrated together for dramatic economic growth, fought and died together in Badme, and cried together when Meles died. Now, as the country moves toward democratic governance and the statuesque appears unsustainable, flipping history books and searching for deferred credits doesn’t seem a wise move. If TPLF embraced Ethiopia despite potential reservation that majority rules democratic Ethiopia can be a threat to Tigray people, then it should blame nobody but itself. Mistakes do cost lives.

            Peace!

          • Saba

            Hi Rahwa,
            Stay with your TPLF until you find a better one. If not Tigrayans will be more marginalized. Tigray was the center of civilizations including my kingdom, D’aEMaT kingdom & Auxumite kingdom. Later other groups started to claim its history. Now do not allow other to claim your existence.
            The Eritrean people support the Tigray people even though they have problems with TPLF.
            I agree with your assessment of the Eritrean politics. Eritreans did not oppose because EPLF/PFDJ guaranteed the existence of Eritrea. But the price was heavy and is still paid. The opposition is more of hypothetical and their principle is everywhere/nowhere. They were interested about what color to use to decorate the SiRaGala when there was no HiDMo. Eritrean sovereignty is the number one issue for Eritreans and if PFDJ can not guarantee that then people will rise against PIA/PFDJ, Is PFDJ going to “sell” Eritrea/Aseb to appease Amara?The rise of Dr. Abiy AA is challenging everyone. Until now there was a mosaic alliance of AH, HA, SAAY7, Horizon, Abi etc But now Seb nab Sebu ZiBee/hyena nab GeRebu. New alliances are in the making. Even PFDJites are at risk of splintering. I belong to the silent majority and i have family & friends from both the PFDJ and the opposition. And now when i hear them talking to eachother i feel like they had experienced brain swap or body swap, idk which one. The PFDJ camp was saying demarcation first but now they say peace & Hade Hizbi, border is artificial. While some of the opposition is saying “what about the demarcation PFDJ was insisting?”. May be the opposition will gain traction if they insist with demarcation. Who knows.

            Dear SAAY7, i used to hear DeMHaY, or DiMHaE, Not DEMHIT. DEMHIT is also the name used by Tigray opposition group residing in Eritrea.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam saba
            I don’t care about history nor i don’t need it that part of history but Just show us 1 history just 1 that shows The history what u talking about is tigrai history or just i written in tigraigna history,, just 1, not geez.

          • Saba

            Selam Teodros,
            Such history was not written in Tigraigna or Amarigna. Sabean off course:)

          • saay7

            Saba:

            Yes, you are right. It was De.M.Ha. E (Democraciawi mnQsQas Harnet Ertra.) All the De.M.H.T guys did–and I have to believe it was to poke Weyane–was change the “E” to “T.” By the way, with all the Eritrea-based oppo signaling their move back to Ethiopia (Kemal, Gnbot-7, Arbegnoch), I haven’t heard anything from De.M.H.T (the remnants of the Molla group.) Does anyone know anything about their decision or are they the ones who will fly back with Abiy after his visit to Eritrea?

            And, Saba, belash fedaiH, you are the least silent of the silent majority:)

            saay

          • Saba

            Hi Saay7,
            I think DeMhIT rep spoke in VOA some days ago. They welcome Abiy’s call but they are still worried about TPLF dominance in Tigray region.So they have to discuss about it. Are you the wardiya today? I was thinking to post the link.
            But in a second thought i do not want you to lose Shumetka, The Great Moderator:) They might vote you down Enda AT, I heard you are ab Kereba:) I imagine it is like Aba GoYla.
            The people in the silent majority are not really silent individually but they are not organized in to the PFDj or the opposition camp. We are free thinkers, not constrained by special interest groups:) During your shift change with SGJ can you clarify this concept to him? He seems so confused about the silent majority.
            Saba

          • saay7

            Saba:

            Nah, he knows because we discuss it often. Its the smug sense of moral superiority of some within the silent majority (when they haven’t earned it and did everything in their power not to earn it) that mystifies him.

            saay

    • Amde

      Selam Gash Saleh,

      Apparently disqus is not cooperating.

      Let me try this again.

      There is no Derg. It is important to know it died a very long time ago. The thing I would say about people hoisting Mengistu photos is this. Imagine 25 years in the future in a post-Isayyas Eritrea. There will be a new generation that will not have experienced the cruelties of his rule, but when they think of Eritrea they think of its glorious founder who was forced to make hard decisions which ultimately paid off. You know there will be many Eritrean totting his pictures and singing his praises. That is the significance of the Mengistu pictures – it is false nostagia. I am sure just like some Russians come out with Stalin pics, and Iraqis remember Saddam. It is only a danger if the political leaders try to use him as a inspiration and a source of political thought. And believe me there is nothing like that in the whole breadth of the Ethiopian political scene.

      I will say there is no Qey Shibbir. Qey Shibbir was a combination of killings by the Derg itself, leftist groups aligned and quasi-aligned and counter-aligned with the Derg, and finally just the venting of local grievances by armed local revolutionary guards given the right to use violence as they saw fit (the infamous netsa irmija).

      My guess is the way qey shibbir was experienced in Eritrea is different, and it was conflated with the Ethiopian State’s counter-insurgency. It may be hard to distinguish between them since they happened at the same time .Actually, now that I think about it, I don’t know if there was qey shibbir in Eritrea as we know it in the rest of Ethiopia. I would be glad to be enlightened. For us it was part of the leftist competition for power. I am assuming by that time the Eritrean field had cleared to ELF and EPLF.

      I think our politics is already ethnically polarized. This is why Abiy is popular. – because his philosophy of medemer (however people interpret it) is a path out of the polarization. We are just starting the conversations of what medemer means and as you can imagine, it can be interpreted in many ways. Is it a fusion? Is it co-operating? We are barely into his leadership so we will see but he has framed a reference point for the debate.

      Is there risk of conflation of being anti-Tigray with being anti-TPLF? Sure there is. I am sure it happens all the time as well in informal settings. That is the risk of a politics of ethnicity. From my point of view, much of this will be fixed by independent Tigrayan voices. But we have completely irresponsible senior people like Samora and others going around and saying Tigray = TPLF and TPLF = Tigray. Some, like the former INSA boss (Major General) are using bizarre mathematics to prove TPLF =Tigray and vice versa. But that is why there is subtle jockeying now between Abiy and TPLF bigwigs. Abiy, to his credit, has on a number of occasions said Tigray does not mean TPLF. That is politically bad for TPLF obviously, but it is doing a huge service for Tigrayans at large. TPLF can
      solve a lot of this by just making a big show of supporting the changes and saying “tedemirenal”.

      The concern I think is about an Ethiopian nationalist regime. For decades it has become axiomatic to think Ethiopia Nationalism is nothing but Amara nationalism. Well, OPDO is running the show in Addis now. Abiy’s discussions/talk with the Arts community is quite revealing to me (Saay will find a ton of material to lampoon but I recommend everyone to watch it). It reveals him as a man very conscious of the psychology of motivation, the role of arts and of symbols. So it suggests his choice of rhetoric is quite deliberate. But I doubt an Abiy regime is to be feared. It is too early to tell obviously, and God knows I hear just as much arguments for why he is a vain and clueless populist as I do for how he is playing a completely different game his opponents are clueless about.

      I suspect he is a serious student of soft power. If there is a “threat” to Eritrea, it will be from its deployment. The man is weaponizing love.

      Amde

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Sir Amde,

        This reminds me the concept coined by YG in his article “Unity by subtraction”, as such you have been proposing the unity of OPDO & ANDM by subtracting TPLF & SEPDM from the nucleus of EPRDF in the name of majority. That doesn’t hold the center of equilibrium of your social groups as I know for decades, the Ethiopian politics. I think understanding the grievances of your social groups and to finding a political formula should be the way out to your crises.

        • Amde

          Selam Gash Amanuel,

          I am sorry. I proposed no such thing. I challenge you to find one single place I said that. None.

          The OPDO+ANDM conversation is about describing what the current system will create. The system is operating as designed. TPLF is better off staying within EPRDF than walking out.

          What i proposed is the vertical split of the EPRDF along ideological grounds. That way, they will retain their positions AND move their debates into parliament.

          Amde

      • halafi mengedi

        Amde,

        The Abiy effect has clearly broken the political apathy in Eritrean populance. It is very palpable. Too bad many of our prominent commentators, many of them who are wasting their time debating Ethipian internal politics and others telling us IA is not going to change ad nauseam, can’t seem to read the situation and hence we will probably miss this opportunity too. Sigh!

        Hm

        • Amde

          Hi hm,

          I am semi-serious about Abiy weaponizing love.

          PFDJ says they want normalization, but they are not being clear about it. The implication is economic relationship – which would be trade deals that can line PFDJ pockets.

          Abiy is talking up cultural and human interactions. He hardly mentions Assab or anything like that. He is offering “normal life” for Eritreans. Free travel to/from Ethiopia. Celebrating holidays. Cultural ties. He will be coming to the US, and one of his goals is to heal the rift within the Tewahdo church, which has been torn for a generation due to politics. Sound familiar?

          Methinks Isayyas is being put in a dilemma – he wants the Ethio money, but he can best survive if he seals the border hermetically. But I don’t think that is possible in this day and age. So, the opportunity is already there if Eri opposition want to capitalize on it.

          I actually had a conversation with an Ethiopian friend yesterday who is convinced Isayyas is very soon going to need Abiy to be his intermediary in resolving his and by extension Eritrea’s problems. There is some truth to that I think.
          If Eritrea/Isayyas did not need Ethiopia, it is hard to justify the sudden prostrating to the Abiy regime.

          Amde

          • halafi mengedi

            Amde,

            Agree with you. Whether Abiy is systematically weaponizing it or not, Eritreans are buying into his language and wondering why we can’t have the same thing in Eritrea too.

            I think Gezae Hagos understood it and wrote about it. I am still waiting for Saay ‘change in narrative’ article…..hoping others stop their over emphasis on Ethiopian internal politics and help direct the people and keep this momentum. Especially, as you said, IA and pfdj have shown us a vulnerable side and their supporters are definitely divided. Perfect opportunity.

            Hm

            Hm

          • Paulos

            HM,

            It looks like when it comes to Ethiopia, we all are PFDJ. Remember Semere’s FB narrative? He said, when it comes to the border ruling, we are with PFDJ. Of course, this was way before Isaias was into a silent mode including in his Martyr’s Day speech where let alone Badme, the border was hardly mentioned.

          • Selam Amde,

            The first and easiest thing the regime in asmara could do is political normalization with ethiopia. This will boost pfdj’s acceptance to a certain extent, at least in the short run, but its long term effect may be what scares pfdj. After the euphoria of the end of the military service and when reality sets in, people will start demanding for jobs, democracy and freedom.

            Even then, this is a one time chance. If the regime fails to take steps to ease the situation in eritrea, people will lose their hope completely, and things may go from bad to worse, politically and economically. There is the encouraging atmosphere which it can exploit. The pope, the usa and european governments, and arab governments want to see a breakthrough. It is a chance not to be wasted. Otherwise, the eritrean regime will lose credibility, and any support it may have internationally.

            Durable economic cooperation is going to take some time, because it needs negotiation, and every country has to weigh the advantages and disadvantages, etc. Until then, some basic businesses could start to function at the border area, until the type of economic relations is sorted out. Removing the large armies stationed at the borders will by itself ease the burden on the economy of both countries.

          • Amde

            Hi Horizon,

            “Durable economic cooperation is going to take some time, because it needs negotiation, and every country has to weigh the advantages and disadvantages, etc. Until then, some basic businesses could start to function at the border area, until the type of economic relations is sorted out. ”

            Don’t you think a lot of this has already been cooked and prepared already? One would imagine the terms of Assab and Massawa usage fall within that category, but it seems everyone here awaits”The Great Unveiling”.

            Amde

          • Selam Amde,

            So, things have developed to such extent that simply we have to wait for the announcement. I can imagine the satisfaction and the disappointment. I hope the decision is good for today and will remain as such for the future as well. Stake holding (buying shares) has become the fashion, whatever that means, and may be we will hear something to that effect.

    • Kaddis

      Gash Saleh –

      I agree with Amde – no need to worry about Dergue on the physical sense of it. But I agree with you there are groups who sympathize Dergue cruel practices.
      Your concern gets more validity when you see some haters (anything Tigray) as new converts and sits as organisers of support rallies. I saw at least one in the Addis committee.
      I expect more to show up in the US committees. Their intention, like Shabia, is to demonstrate resent to anything Tigray – not the concept of forgiveness. Most of these come from the Unity camps.

      In the short term, I fear, Tigray people, also more and more minorities in every localities will be victims. Because of the hate in the air and the lawlessness.
      The hopeful element is – the upcoming Oromo elites, and their radical followers Queroo, prefer to side with Tigray nationalists ( TPLF included ) than with the Unity camp in the long term.
      Abiy will play around with the Unity camp narratives because of the same reason of approaching Shabia. To reduce enemies in this vulnerable time. The Unity camp is vocal and kept hostage the remittance, the professional diaspora engagement, the goodwill of the nation and most of all radicalise centre-right local parties.

      • Paulos

        Selam Kaddis,

        Again many thanks. It is indeed a trying time for the nation. If the extremist elements are not buying the young PM’s forget and forgive philosophy, would you say Tigreans are left with two options:

        * Every Tigrean goes back to Tigrai.
        Or
        ** Tigreans should be allowed to protect themselves in an event of attack and hostility.

        What other options would you say they have?

        • Kaddis

          Hi Paulos,
          Distant localities could be exposed however I assume the military has the capacity to protect. If the violence goes viral all minorities are equally exposed.
          Self defense doesn’t need permission. Its justified.

  • Mez

    Dear Hope,

    The problem just started to unfold. Don’t waste your valuable words and phrases; as you may need them lateron.

    However you present him, Amanuel H did have a lot to offer us.

    ኦረሞ ሲተርት “የናቁት ወሸላ ዘጠኝ ወር ያሥረግዛል ” ይላል!

    Thanks

  • Kbrom

    Hi all

    For your eyes only

    ‘the hyper-imaginative “stringer” of this Forum’ has documented information of who is in WediKassa’s and Simon’s payroll, who is at 700 Euro/Month, who is at USD 72,000/per annum + ‘infiltration allowance’ what is the informants manual and guidelines etc.

    • Hayat Adem

      Dear Kibrom,
      Your feed sounds too important to let it go without understabding it. Kindly, can you be more forthcoming about it?
      Hayat

  • ‘Gheteb

    Now inc.,

    I don’t see the similarity of “State media” between North Korea and Eritrea. I presume that the North Korean one is MORE advanced than the Eritrean one.

    I can’t make other similarities because I don’t speak the Korean language. Do you?

  • Nitricc

    Ras Abi; i agree with you about Aman-H; he never denounced about the massacre of the Oromo and Amhara; but can be said the same thing about AMDE, Horizon and Kim. What is up with that?

  • Amde

    Selam gebremedhin,

    I am afraid you misunderstand me. I went back to see which part of my comment to Mez would be objectionable, and I am still unsure. My point was it is not clear what TPLF leaving EPRDF solves, since EPRDF can continue without TPLF.

    I am against this ethnic federation because it is terrible for the smaller nations. The EPRDF system which just gives one party to one ethnic group compounds one problem with another. And It has lead to exactly the scenario I was afraid of, where we have possibly “permanent” tyranny of the two.

    I said TPLF wasted 27 years because it should have known a day would come when it can no longer be in control. ANDM or OPDO have the population weight to at least believe they have a chance at being in control for a very long time. But for Tigray and TPLF it was obvious it could never happen. They had the chance and the duty to establish something they can retire with knowing there were system and constitutional limits that protect the interests of Tigray the state and Tigrayans throughout the country, irrespective of whether a Tigrayan party is in power or not.

    Ok what is to be done now? If you follow my discussion with Berhe, the best thing would be a federation of about 20ish states – about the geographic and population size of Tigray actually. You will end up with a number of states – some with no ethnic majorities and the larger nationalities broken into a number of units. Add free elections so there are multiple parties representing an ethnic group. Then the probability of being in this high risk situation ( ፈረንጆቹ call it single-point-of-failure) will be significantly less.

    It is impossible to implement this now of course. I am hoping this will be an opportunity to rethink this system when the opportunity next comes.

    I would really like to understand your position on this. Perhaps I missed something, but to me the current situation is what the current system would logically create. It is the system working perfectly as designed even if the intention was different.

    Amde

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Selam Abi,

    You bring individuals who committed crimes to the court of justice from any organization, including from EPRDF (the coalition parties) .You don’t bring organizations to the court of justice. Actually, that should be your advocacy and certainly will get my vote in this forum.

    • Abi

      Selam Ato Amanuel
      Fair enough.
      I was just wondering why you were quiet in the past many years when you see and hear the massacre of the Amharas and Oromos?
      May be you were unaware of the magnitude of the suffering experienced by your neighbors. However, you were the first person to alarm the bell and tell whoever is listening that the survival of the Ethiopians is solely dependent upon the wellbeing of the TPLF and the people of Tigray.
      Now you are kind of took the leading role in scaring the heck out of everyone that Armageddon is coming unless TPLF is lording over the rest of the country.
      Anyway, thank you for the generous concern and support .
      Btw, between you and me, you used to call Oromos as “galas” until three years ago. That is the time I said that you are clueless when it comes to anything Ethiopian.
      You should be thankful to Hayat and Eyob for coming for your rescue from further embarrassment. You corrected your comment right away. We live to learn. Don’t worry you are a quick learner:)

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Abi,

        Correction : I didn’t say “the survival of the Ethiopians is solely dependent on TPLF and the people of Tigray.” What I have said the unity of Ethiopia is dependent on the existence of EPRDF. That is my understanding. But you guys since you equate EPRDF to TPLF, which is wrong, as a result you have wrong perceptions on people who hold different opinion than yours. Therefore, if you fight for the “rule of law and justice” all the crimes you are talking, will find resolution along the way. Just avoid the language that affect and aggravates the mistrust within the social groups ( the building blocks of your society) either directly or indirectly. The unity and stability of Ethiopia is quintessential for peace and stability of the region. The focus of my argument is then precisely predicated on that, and not on who will be in power. I don’t react like many in this forum who become cacophony of politics like wayane-Wayane, Amhara-Amhara, Oromo-Oromo….etc. Talking on what should be done in terms constitutionalism, rule of law, justice, peace, stabilities should be the way forward. At least Ethiopians has institutions and constitution that can help you in forging continuous change incrementally.

        • Abi

          Selam Ato Amanuel
          Thank you for your time
          Now, you said ” the unity of Ethiopia is dependent on the existence of Eprdf “. Fair enough. Are you implying if Eprdf is broken into four or if TPLF removed itself from the coalition, the unity of Ethiopia is in danger? Why?
          What do you mean by unity of Ethiopia?
          Again, TPLF is camping at Mekele as we speak. Do you take that as a sign of breaking up? Do you still think this break up is a danger to the unity of Ethiopia?
          Thanks again

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Abi,

            Unity of Ethiopia means when your social groups are at peace with each other. Stability of Ethiopian means when Ethiopia is protected from foreign “instability instigators and their surrogates” like the Eritrean regime and others.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam aman h
            Ur definition of peace called double standard of aman h, not peace.
            When the vast majority of ethiopia make peace with eritrea, u call it “instability” but when 1 party whose constituency r less than 6% of ethiopia make peace with eritrea , u call it peace. Remember what u been saying about ethio-eri peace in this forum. Am saying this as ethiopia.

  • Nitricc

    Hi Kaddis; you wrote “-The disregard for the rule of law, heavy corruption related to the debt fueled non-delivering mega projects, the debt crunch, even though the economy was growing….”
    How is possible under such circumstances that “the economy was growing….? I admit, i have no in-depth knowledge about economy but after you listed all the cancers of economy, yet you conclude that the ” economy was growing. I mean how do you reconcile those contradictory statements? I think the Ethiopians are addicted in saying the “economy is growing” while the economy is in shambles and the country is in a verge of bankrupt. may be there is unique definition of economy growth in Ethiopia.

    • Kaddis

      Selam Nitric,
      You can grow with debt investment and crash later 🙂 Growing starts from +1%. Do you have figures of -ve digits? You can argue on the % but World Bank said few days before HD resigned Ethiopia will grow +7 % in 2018/19.

  • Mitiku Melesse

    Hei, all.
    Every day is party party in Ethiopia except Tigray. Tigray is not liberated from their liberator. Very funny, ha. The most free people for the last 27 years led by freedom fighters as if Tigrians were not free yet. But now it becomes true. Maybe it is their destiny. How come a liberated people have been led by a liberation front by the name rebels.
    c
    Anyway one more blows for Tplf, their EGAD manuplator by the name colonel Gebru the nightmare of somalia, the architect of somalias clan federalism (they are expert these people in dividing ethnics, if they get one ethnic they divide it in clans, if it is only one clan then they go for families. It is in their blood. Look Somalia and how they are terrified these people when they hear his name. But now thanks for our God sent PM as he mentioned earlier that Tplf Ethiopia doesn’t exist. We are not hyenas, We want to develop together with our brothers and sisters Somalia’s people. Boom a month letter the bad colonel out from Somalia, out from EGAD. Ethiopians has no such value. We have to restore our value.

    What wen wrong with TPLF in that 15 years struggle? Why do they hate other people? Who was the friend of TPLF? Eplf, Elf, Eprp, Derg, Ethiopians, Olf, Onlf, Somalia, US, Eritrea? Who is their friend really.

  • saay7

    Selamat @george:

    Thanks buddy! I appreciate your advice. When I am not reading members of the Flat Earth Society advising astronauts how to orbit Earth, or atheists telling the religious how to worship their god, my favorite thing is to read people who believe in one party states giving advice on how to be an effective opposition 😂

    And I don’t just write about IA (= gov); I also defend his bambulas when they, poor souls, stumble all over themselves as they did in Addis. And IA is popular? Man, that guy is living off the fumes of goodwill for his role during Ghedli. Best way to show us how popular he is to have a contested election. The rest is all wishful thinking from your echo chamber, and hey, as a libertarian, I respect all forms of worship including delusional ones.

    saay

  • saay7

    Selamat Now Inc:

    I am sure everybody in Eritrea (Internet penetration rate: 1%) has a twitter handle. 🙄 And why is the Minister of Info “confirming” news reported by Ethiopia’s FANA instead of announcing it? I mean, literally, he has one job.

    saay

  • Hawaz Tesfom

    Selam Mr Saleh,

    Yesterday you translated and publicized a report from an “Eritrean Jihadist” group on your website. On the video it was showing that the Islamists were chanting and threatening Christians and non-Muslims. But then you withdraw the video and the article from your website. Why? I think somebody from your group advised you to do so. But you were already exposed.
    That is what I told you last time: “By now, most of the people know that you have a hidden agenda. Your agenda is already exposed. Now, your behavior shows that you are in a desperate, panic and nervous mode because of the Eritrean and Ethiopian government approaching each other.
    You are really a coward. Why you don’t stand by your words. Behind the scenes (in reality) you are a Jihadist and you are not only against the Eritrean government but against the Kebesa Christians. On the other side you play the “tolerant, the liberal and the supporter of diversity of religions”.
    But my friend, please know that you can’t play that game because you are exposed. Also, please be advised and don’t try to play with fire, it can burn you. You know it very well. You experienced it first-hand.
    FYI: Ethiopians and Eritreans are not going only to make peace about the border issue, but they are going to unite as one nation. They want to have a family reunification. It is all natural. As they said it: The reunification of a lost son with his mother. Be prepared for that.

    Kind Regards
    Hawaz

    • Nitricc

      Hi Hawaz; FYI: that is prissily the opposite of your FYI that we are demarcating the border. You will have your country and we will have ours. Sure, we can will have peaceful cooptation’s and normal normalizations but reunification and one nation is just BS!!!

      • Blink

        Dear Nitricc
        What Hawaz forget is that these Terrorists were cooked by weyane and some delusional Eritrean Muslims who lost it all in the 5 line ( 5 mesree) campaign in 1995 are hoping to show Eritreans their magic to go to heaven and be blessed by 7 virgins . All Islamists who tried 24 years ago know Eritrean lowlands will not buy their claim. One thing is unclear and that’s , why was the video even was posted at awatecom and why was it removed. These people can do nothing .

        One nation, that is ludicrous.

        • Simon Kaleab

          Selam Blink,

          Small corrections:

          “5 line” —> 5th column.

          “7 virgins” —> 72 virgins.

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Selam Kaddis,

    I wish to have few realistic people like you who could weigh in the entire developments, the movers and shakers in the current political dynamics and it’s trajectories. Thank you for your perspectives on the ongoing changes in Ethiopia.

  • ‘Gheteb

    PIA Visiting UAE

    Greetings!!

    According to a report from “The National”, UAE,

    ” Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed, Crown Prince of Abu Dhabi and Deputy Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces, received President Isaias Afwerki of Eritrea, who is currently visiting the UAE, on Tuesday.

    Sheikh Mohammed welcomed the Eritrean president, and expressed his hope that the visit will contribute to strengthening ties between the UAE and Eritrea for the benefit of both nations, state news agency Wam reported.

    Sheikh Mohammed and Mr Afwerki reviewed current bilateral relations and exchanged views on regional and international issues of mutual concern. They also discussed opportunities for trade and investment co-operation.

    Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed, Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Presidential Affairs, also attended the meeting”.

    Purpose of the visit is that ” Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed meets President of Eritrea during UAE visit. The two discussed bilateral ties and opportunities for future co-operation

    ” Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed meets President of Eritrea during UAE visit. The two discussed bilateral ties and opportunities for future co-operation”.

    • saay7

      Selamatat Cuz Gheteb:

      When the head of state leaves the country and you don’t hear from the State media that he controls that he has but, instead, you hear it from a different source;

      When countries tell you they are discussing bilateral and regional issues and don’t tell you what those are;

      When countries discuss “investment” and don’t tell you what those are;

      When you can change the date and show that this is identical to Isaias visit to Qatar or Iran;

      What does it mean? I think I have the answer to the first question. I will be certain when Shabait tell us he is there on a “working visit.” Then go back and reference what Kbrom and Berhe Y wrote on UAE and who else is visiting.

      saay

      • ‘Gheteb

        Cuz SAAY:

        I think the visit is confirmed by the information minister, Yemane Gebermeskel tweet. You can check it in one of “the three channels” that the PFDJ uses to telegraph its messages.

        I even watched the reception of PIA by the crown prince of UAEin one of UAE TV station. I do this to read the body languages and I am here to report that The Emirati Eritrean relation is ” hale and hearty”.

        Yeah, regarding those whose bailiwick is rumormongering and disseminating scuttlebutts picked up from coffee shop klatches or so and so told me that, maybe news to those ears that are desperately looking for more tidbits to score political brownie points against PIA and PFDJ.

        The next thing that your Kibrom et al would report that “the office of the president has given special order for Segen Construction company as the specific colors the walls of the Ethiopian embassy must be painted.” IA” gave those instruction while boarding the plane heading to UAE”.

        ” My friends sister has a friend who works for one of the drivers of “IA” and he told me that his friend told him that his sister heard from her friend “IA” is seriously sick and that is why he is visiting the UAE”.

        You are free to deem those as reliable news, but in my book they are rumors, hearsay and nothing else. Though your Kibrom failed to produce his sources, he went on the defensive invoking the wellbeing of his source. And, you also do that invoking the line that I can’t reveal “source and method”.

        It is amazing you are talking about investment, when all your Kibrom was bloviating about the port of Assab this, UAE and Ethiopia are planning to do that, while the report coming from Abu Dhabi says nothing about it.

        This is just to show you that those whose imagination has gone on overdrive are imagining too much and those picking up too much tittle-tattle from Tim Hortons coffee shop, are just that. Spreading made-up stories and rumors.

        From where I stand, I take these things with tons of salt!

        • Kim Hanna

          Selam ‘Gheteb,

          I am so glad I am severely ignored by you. That way I can almost say anything within the bounds of Awate guidelines……..and nothing happens. It is sort of cathartics.

          So ‘Gheteb, I have one question that was nagging me for a long time. I see so many circumstantial evidence for my suspicion.

          )))) Are you PIA, really??((((

          Mr. K.H

          • Paulos

            Selam Ato Kim Hanna,

            Hope DIA is not reading your comment.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Paulos,

            I kinda of outed him, didn’t I?

            Mr. K.H

          • Paulos

            KH,

            One thing I give credit to DIA is that, he doesn’t suck up to no one. And he speaks his mind so much so that he doesn’t wait for directives on what to say and what not to say.

          • Teodros Alem

            Selam k h
            Every time u said something u keep showing u r real k h physically and mentally, the point is u r amazing when u express urself. Me to have one question that was nagging me for a long time , r u abrehe desta of arana? ur equivalent .

          • ‘Gheteb

            Selam Mr. Kim Hanna,

            No, No, No, No…. I ain’t ignoring you severely or otherwise. Your last antiphon [ meaning, response or reply] was on “The Ethiopian antiphon” note that I had penned. I was expecting a serious feedback and input from an Ethiopian of your caliber. But, alas, you opted the other tack of not taking it seriously.

            I was attempting to unpack the notion of nationalism by way of proffering Ethiopian nationalism and Ethiopiawinet as an example to Eritreans like Cuz SAAY who seemingly are having such a hard time of crossing this CONCEPTUAL BARRIER dealing with Nationalism and Eritreanism.

            BTW, Ethiopianism and Ethiopian nationalism is one of the hot topics or issues among Ethiopians. ESAT is a case in point.

            Thanks, anyway, jests or otherwise.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam ‘Gheteb,

            Oops, thanks anyway, for the jest or otherwise, El President e.

            Mr K. H

        • saay7

          Selamat Gheteb:

          Ok that was funny. But consider this, sir:

          1. When I said the government’s 3 channels (meskerem, hagerawi dHnet, Bruton) I was talking about when it’s leaking info. This is official info. I mean it’s a little embarrassing when Ethiopian TV (Fana) reports the news and your media doesn’t. No?

          2. And I saw a still image of el Presidente wearing his Mao uniform; he looks his usual haggard self so I can’t read much into it.

          3. On using unofficial channels for news dissemination, that’s an interesting observation for a guy whose org perfected it.

          I will let “my kbrom” tell you what’s what 🙂

          saay

          • ‘Gheteb

            Cuz SAAY:

            1) Meskerem didn’t leak anything. It merely posted the Tweet of Yemane Gebermeskel, the information minister. I was merely referring you where to confirm my claim. That was all to it. By the way, one of “the kiddie websites” has a lengthy report and that is all FYI and nothing more.

            2) ” el Presidente wearing his Mao uniform” ? Way, way, way before people started describing the dress as “Mao uniform”, it was a common dress in Eritrea, in so far as I can remember. I used to wear similar dress before I even knew who Mao was. But your attempt of trying to connect PIA to Maoism is very astute.

            3) Forget the unofficial method of news dissemination and in about 4 to 6 hours, EreTV, Haddas Ertra and other media outlet will be reporting about PIAs UAE visit.

            4) ” he looks his usual haggard self so I can’t read much into it”. Then, let me help you out here. The man has had a very rough life and he is over 70 years old and works very hard and long hours, to boot. ( My source is Ahmed Al Qeysi interviews).

            PIA’s informal dress and the casualness of the interactions is indicative of the closeness of the Emirati Eritrean relations.

            By the way, whatever became of the professor who went to Eritrea to tutor and teach PIA’s son, per Medrekh’s report, remember?

          • saay7

            Selamat Cuz Gheteb:

            Just so we don’t bore our readers with our tit-for-tat, I will reverse the sequence of the questions and answers:

            4 & 2 (combined): Are you seriously going to argue that a man wearing something literally called “Mao’s suit” shouldn’t be associated with Mao? Lots of people wore the John Travolta suit without knowing it was the John Travolta suit and I think it is the same with you and Mao, cuz.

            Yeah, I remember Medrekh’s report. Are you saying absolutely, positively it didn’t happen?

            3. I told you Eri-TV and Haddas Ertra will report it. After everybody else has:) Sometimes, news is never reported though (eg: the Djibouti mediation, UAE military base in Asab, etc, etc.)

            1. Oh, meskerem leaks. Remember its report that there will be so much dembolization people are worried how it will worsing the housing shortage? :))) Or the prime real estate it gives the prime leaker Hagerawi Dhnet?

            saay

          • ‘Gheteb

            Cuz SAAY:

            If a man wears what others describe as “Maos suit” it doesn’t necessarily lead to the conclusion that s/he is associated with Mao. As I said before, it was a common dress in Eritrea. I don’t recall what it was/is called, but something like a “Sariano”….

            Not confirming or denying about the foreign professor tutoring PIAs son, per the Medrekh’s report, I am kind of looking for an update from the hyper-imaginative stringer of this Forum.

            The question that keep popping up in my head is why Kibrom didn’t alert this Forum about the PIA trip to the UAE 2 or 3 days ago, if one is to believe the inside scoop that he reels off are not anything but of the FANTASTICAL emanations.

            BTW, Hagrawi Dhnet, ” the prime leaker” which is ensconced in “the prime real estate” of another leaker, meskerem, reported PIAs visit bout SEVEN hours ago while other did much earlier. Even a mere mortal like me did post the report EIGHT hours ago. Don’t you see that something doesn’t add up?

          • saay7

            Gheteb, selam!

            We are going to debate that Isaias is a Maoist and favors Maos suit? I guess the word “concede” doesn’t exist in the vocabulary of “Eritreanism”. For the rest of the readers, please google “isaias afwerki Mao moutai”. Go ahead; I will wait. It’s Wikileaks.

            And no, Gheteb, I didn’t ask you to confirm or deny the Medrek report about European professors and military scientists private tutoring Abraham Isaias Afwerki. I asked you to deny whether that kind of power abuse is possible in Isaias’s Eritrea (where is no free press, opposition, parliament) to check his powers and he can run the country like his private business. I will take yes, no, maybe, no comment but not a redefinition of my question.

            Kibrom would be wise to say no more because his source can be easily identified by the police state which feeds multiple people true, false, half-true, info just to identify the whistleblower. So your system is what the Sudanese call “ghedima” 🙂

            A mere mortal like you posted the info about Isaias visit using non-Eritrean source. The kiddie website sourced Sharjah24, which is a “news” outlet set up by a partnership between Saudi Arabia and UAE (Eritrea’s Wallets). So: you got news reported by UAE, Saudi Arabia, Ethiopia with Eritrea’s Minister of Info (whose single task is to provide timely and accurate info about his country) playing catch up. That is, if they hadn’t, he wouldn’t have because he has to get permission from Adi Halo to scratch his nose.

            saay

          • ‘Gheteb

            Cuz SAAY:

            Say and believe whatever you will, based on Wikileaks and other recent sources, that PIA is a Moaist through and through because he sports Maos uniform or suit or is associated with Maoism.

            But that, in and of itself, does not sound logical.

            Let me take you back in time and tell you what the sartorial preference were of Isaias Afwerki when he was a young firebrand Maoist. He wore mostly jeans, polyester pants and green khaki pants.

            I don’t recall seeing him, in person or in pictures, wearing anything similar to the one he wore in his trip to the UAE. You can still make a plausible case that PIA is a Maoist without making an erroneous connection between the Eritrean ‘Sariano’ and Mao’s suit.

            The over-imaginative “stringer” of this Forum, Kibrom, does NOT need to reveal his sources. There are no traps, “ghedima” or newly minted to be set here. He has NO source whatsoever because the provenance of his rumors is his over-actively and highly imaginative mind.

            His ONLY source is his mind and nothing else.

            The question that I can’t wrap my head around is: why did Kibrom fail to give this Forum a head up about three days ago regarding PIA visit to UAE?

          • saay7

            Cuz Gheteb:

            The Wikileaks source is the same one your denizens of planet Isaias uses when they are attacking Weyane. And that particular source says that IA adores Mao and consumes his biography (among other reveleations.) what he wore in meda (jeans) or what he ate or drank (didn’t drink alcohol) or what he did in his spare time (fetch and carry water) was all calculated to create the aura of the mythical, mystical intellectual warrior king. And kudos to your myth-manufacturing department for pulling that off until it faces the harsh reality in post-independent Eritrea.

            My theory as to why kibrom didn’t know IA was going to UAE was because it’s a family vacation and since IA goes to great trouble to continue the narrative as the hard-working leader who never rests, it wouldn’t be good (to the sheeple) to see visual of the first family on vacation. I don’t think he can vacation in the west yet because some zealous prosecector may say this man is identified as having committed crimes against humanity. Why do you think he has been quarantined in Eritrea and the Middle East since the report came out. He is following the Omar Albeshir itinerary.

            saay

          • Eric

            Selam saay,

            You said PIA is scared of arrest in the West?? … is there an arrest warrant out for his arrest? And if there is an international arrest out, are the other officials who travel on the regular to the west free from the crimes?? I usually don’t know you to make comments or suggestions that you can’t back up, but this one sounds right out of the Paltalk talking points?? Peace!!

          • saay7

            Eric:

            Yes.

            saay

          • Kbrom

            Hi saay

            Forget what the ‘ሳይጠሩት ኣቤት ሳይልኩት ወዴት’ jackdaw in peacock’s feathers say this is what is happening today in Asmara.

            Most of the cadres including senior government/PFDJ officials are disgruntled and are saying:

            1. Why are we not informed about the destiny of the country we gave our life to
            2. What is said in Ethiopia about Eritrea (they are glued to EBC – Ethiopian Television) does not reflect what is on the ground here in our country
            3. Was it necessary to send a delegation to Ethiopia and act the what they overacted.
            4. will come soon whether in a form ሰፊሕ ቃለመሕትት ምስ ክቡር ፕረዚደንት or in a form of መግለጺ

          • Ismail AA

            Selam kubur Haw Kbrom,

            This time around those questions are to be ruled out from men and women who have been wasting their youthful ages and have begun the first decades of old age without any future prospects in trenches guarding the borders from Woyane aggresssion and now being told that borders are in fact immaterial.

            Past day or two back I read MS’s article at meskerem.net and his guarded call for information from authorities. I took this as sign that things before the current overture from the Ethiopians and zealous reaction of the PFDJ authorities may not be business as usual for the regime that takes its supporter for granted.The long wait and enormous pain the people and soldiers have endured could play role in drawing new lines that could separate de diehard minority and (sort to speak of) silent majority.

          • Kbrom

            Selam Haw Ismail

            Likewise I read MS’s beautiful article ربنا يبارك مهاراته with all due respect, my main difference with dearest brother MS is the following:

            The main question should be why is one man without any institutional process, separation of power making a war and peace decision alone, including the lease of the port of Assab to UAE, rather than why are we not informed about the decisions that are being taken without any due process of governance and consultation with Eritrean people.

            Does not it sound as long as we are informed by ERI-TV, we condone and endorse (or at least we will keep silent to) the acts that are being taken unilaterally by PIA.

          • Ismail AA

            Dear Kbrom,

            I do share, unequivocally, your oppostion to limiting government’s responsibility to mere informing the people and walking away from obligation to legitimize decisions through properly sanctioned people’s institutions perfectly represent me, too. Information about the one-man arbitrary decrees were in fact proclaimed to the people and enforced through threat of force and punishment.

            The point cited in connection to MS was just as a small indication of what the regime may face after extravagant response to Ethiopia’s overture regarding the stalled border conflict, which came as flagrantly contemptible attitude to the people’s feelings in general, and in particular, some chunks of its own power base.

            Diminishing the importance the border issue to nothingness is affront to those it had chained to degrees of obsession with threat to sovereignty for so long. I wondered whether MS’s modestly and guarded views would be the tip of an iceberg of problems the regime could face.

          • Mez

            Good Day Ismail AA,

            I don’t get it, is there any one rejecting the peace process (because it came this time through the window instead of the big and wide door)?

            1) the real challenge for all will be how to avoid the potential “socioeconomic policy clash”. Namely job creation, job allocation, robust taxation system, mechanism for goods services and financial transactions between the two nations.

            2) movement of people with just basic I’d, avoiding prolonged passport requirement.

            And then everything related to the above.

            Thanks

          • Ismail AA

            Good afternoon (my time) dear Mez,

            Did I write anything about rejecting peace irrespective of how and when it would come? The point raised concerned the regime’s attitude and response. While the border and implementation of the rulings of the commission was the core of raison ‘d etre for keeping the people and the army in state of war footing for so long, it is now saying that the demarcation of border is immaterial. I believe this to be unwarranted affront to the feeling of the people.

            As to things you mentioned in points 1 and 2, you bet. But that should be out come of proper peace making, and peace may not be a priori condition contingent on them.

          • Kbrom

            Hi saay

            I will let “my kbrom” tell you what’s what 🙂

            Nope! uh-uh No! I will not sir.

  • Hayat Adem

    Dear Amde and Horizon,
    The 27 were wasted in terms of Eprdf communicating and relating itself to uts urban constituency. I think it is good they are paying a price for that. But I am completely dumbfounded on how the elite are playing with fire in a way that determines the existence of the country. Many of us were looking up and being inspired jelously on the successes of this country. Then, you guys have misguided tge novice leader to a dangrous game where the many surrounding and far geopolitical jackals can play him big time. Even our little man has rushed his men in time for the game forgetting his decade long demarcation cry.
    I am trying to catch up with the Ethiopian laws and with what is politically possible.
    Right now the Bahirdar bevavior is sending shockwaves to many parts of the nation including Oromia. Some regions are already stating their utter disgustedness officially. It is unblievable Andm could go low and unlawful while being the ruling party. It is a shameful scene that a party who was in power for 27 years are acting as if they came to power now with an alternative path.
    You both are assuming too much and taking this Andm and Opdo marriage real and foregranted. When you are trying to use everyone for a gaming end, it is possible you can also be outgamed. In a process you are hurting your country.
    So, Andm traveled with Tplf for years along the revolutionary developmental ideological line together until it thought it became weak enough, they reverted to the Mengistu idolization and Afar yeNna nat. Andm sided with Opdo for sometime. And when it thought the time has come, they disregarded the federal setting and reverted back to the Amara first and land first old habits. By doing that it was an a cruel irony they did what truly undermines Aby’s government andkeadership on a rally that was organized in the name of him and love and democracy. What a joke but a cruel one. Don’t they know they are shattering the hope of their country? Does Ethiopia look like a meatball that xan be enjoyed for a dinner and your next attention on the toothpick!  Wow!
    They exactly know how they are endangering the existence of the nation, but that is a no concern for them as long as they thought there is a little chance for the Amara Yiqdem mission. Some of the Amara elites are so self concious that they can yeimd to whoever bids the highest meatball package.  I am so amazed how some chauvinistic folks are still stuck and obssessed with the land while not bothering offending millions. That was how they ruined Ethiopia for centuries. They still hope they can own Ethiopia. Poor souls!

    • Teodros Alem

      Selam ms hayat
      Inorder to know about andm and opdo, 1st u need to know why in first place they r forced themselves to be opdo and andm.
      2nd, u need to know who r they , thier family, family tree, aspirations and so on.
      3rd, u need to know the difference between eprdf legal policy and tplfest individual bad administration inside eprdf. Than u can bla it all day long.

    • Selam Hayat Adem,

      Are you trying to tell us that there is no future for ethiopia unless she remains under tplf dictatorship? Are you trying to repeat mz’s ‘my way or the highway, otherwise ethiopia is not meant to be’? Could an eritrean be so much obsessed with tplf forgetful of eritrea? Who are you really?

      You are trying to exploit whatever the ethiopian pm utters and whatever an ethiopian individual does. The solidarity between opdo and andm is making you very uneasy. You are working hard to demonize not only the ethiopian PM, you were of course the first to demonize him, but also the amhara ethnic group. You are driving wedge between ethiopian ethnic groups and yet you say you care about ethiopia. What you obsessively care about is tplf, its hegemony in ethiopia, and not in the least about ethiopia. How can you care about ethiopia when you do not seem to equally care about your own country, eritrea. This is what one is forced to conclude from your obsession with tplf.

      The meatball and toothpick analogy is interesting. May be for tplf ethiopia is like that, a meatball. Nobody owns ethiopia, not tplf as we are witnessing today, not amhara, and not oromo. She belongs equally to all her people. That is what tplf and its supporters cannot digest.

      There is no way whatsoever tplfists can turn the tide and bring the country under tplf domination for the second time, and resisting change is futile, which at the end will erode tplf’s significance in the eyes of the people of tigray. Tplf has got to change and become part of the whole or wither away into irrelevance and be replaced by a new tigrayan political party.

      • Hayat Adem

        Dear Horizon,
        You guys are either not honest or out of touch. Nobody has worked for this change better than the Oromo activists such as Dr. Tsegaye Regassa. Look what he is saying below:
        ከፋፋይ ትርክት እና ራእይ ይዘን አንድነትን አንመሠርትም!!!
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        የአንድ ቡድንን ምክንያት-የለሽ የፖለቲካ እራስ ምታት ለማስታመም በሚል ስሌት፣ ሕዝቦችን እየከፋፈሉ አገርን ማዋሃድ አይቻልም። ሰሞኑን በተደጋጋሚ እንደተረጋገጠው፣ በአንድ ክልል ብቻ የሚሸበሸብለትንና በአማርኛ የሚያዜሙ አዝማሪዎች ብቻ የሚያዜሙለትን የመንደር (provincial) ኢትዮጵያዊነት እየሰበኩ አገራዊ አንድነት ማምጣት አይቻልም። ይኼን ማድረግ፣ ቀድሞ የነበረውን ክፍፍል ማስፋትና የበለጠ ጥልቀት እንዲኖረው ማድረግ ነው።

        ሕዝቦች ወደማይጋሩትና ወዳልተጋሩት፣ ሲጋሩት ደግሞ ለአንዱ ግነት ለሌላው ውርደት ሆኖ ወደ ተኖረ “የቀድሞ ክብር” ለመመለስ መናፈቅ ከፋፋይነት እንጂ ማዋሃድ አይደለም። መደመር በለው መቀነስ፣ አንድነት በለው ሕብረት፣ በተጨባጭ፣ ከፋፋይነት ነው።

        አፋኝ፥ ጨቋኝና ከፋፋይ የነበረ መንደረኛና ጠባብ (provincial and parochial) ኢትዬጵያዊነት የፈጠረውን መከፋፈልና የልብ መራራቅ፣ ያንኑ ጠባብና የአንድ መንደር ኢትዮጵያዊነት ትርክት በመተረክ አታስተካክለውም። You cannot solve a problem of empire by injecting more narrative of empire.

        ኢትዮጵያንና ኢትዮጵያዊነትን ተቤዥቶ ለሁሉ የምትሆን ማድረግ የሚቻለው በአዲስ የእኩልነትና የነፃነት ትርክት (new narrative of equa-liberty) እንጂ፣ የቆየ፥ ያረጀና የደከመው ደም አፍሳሽ የጠቅላይ-ተስፋፊነት (imperial) ትርክትን እያሰማመሩ በመድገምና በመደጋገም አይደለም።

        መካከልህ ያለውን የኢትዮጵያ ሶማሊ እንደወንድም አይተህ ችግሩን ሳትሰማው፥ ጥያቄውን ሳትመልስ፣ እሩቅ ያለውንና እራሱ ቢያንስ ሁለት አገር ሆኖ የሚኖረውን ሶማሊ ወንድምና ዜጋ አደርጋለሁ ማለት ግብዝነት፣ ከፍ ሲልም የሕዝብ ሳይሆን የግዛት ፍቅርን ያነገበ ተስፋፊነት ነው።

        መካከልህ ያለውን ትግርኛ ተናጋሪ እንዴት እንደሚይዝ (treat እንደሚያደርግ) ግራ የገባው እና እንደሕዝብ ያለበትን ፍርሃት፥ስጋትና ጭንቀት እንዴት እንደሚያስወግድ ገና ያልገባው ሕዝብ አገር ሆነህ ሳለህ፣ ከኤርትራ ትግርኛ ተናጋሪዎች ጋር በአስመራ በምፅዋ ስለምታደርገው መዝናናት በአደባባይ ማለምም እንዲሁ የግብዝነት መገለጫው ነው።

        የአገርህ አፋር የዘመናት እራስምታት ሲነገርህ ከአእምሮህ በላይ መሆኑን በአደባባይ እያስመሰከርክ (“እንኳን አንተ ግመሎችህ የሌላን መንደር ሰንደቅ ያውቃሉ” የሚል ስላቅ እየተሳለቅበት) ስለጅቡቲ ውህደትና የወደብ ጥቅም ማውራት ከተስፋፊ-ጠቅላይ ህልምህ እንጂ ከሕዝብ ጋር እንዳልወገንክ ያሳብቅብሃል።

        ይኸም ህዝቡን ይነጥለዋል (alienate ያደርገዋል) እንጂ አያቀራርበውም። ይሄ አገርን ይከፋፍላል እንጂ አንድ አያደርገውም።

        በማን ህልም የታየ አገርን ነው፣ እንዴት አድርገህ አንድ የምታደርገው? ህልምህ/ራዕይህ የማን ነው? የማንን መሻት (aspiration)፥ የማንን ናፍቆት (longing) ነው ለማርካት የምትታትረው?

        የሕዝቦችን መሻትና ናፍቆት ማዕከል ያደረገ መቤዠት እና የተቤዠ የሕዝቦች አጋርነትና ሕብረት ለማምጣት የሚፈልግ ሰው፣ የሕዝቦችን ፈቃድ በተጨባጭ ለማየት የሚያስችል ምርጫ የሚካሄድበት ዴሞክራሲያዊ ሥርዓት ለመፍጠር መሠረት ይጥላል። ዴሞክራሲያዊ ሽግግርን ለማምጣት የሚያስችል እርምጃዎችን ይወስዳል። ይኸን ከማድረግ ይልቅ “የለም፣ እኔ እየሄድኩ የኔን ህልም/ራዕይ እነግረውና እንዲቀበለኝ እሰብከዋለሁ፤ በዚህም ልብ ለልብ አቀራርበዋለሁ፤ ይህን በማድረግ አገርን አዋህዳለሁ፤ እስከዚያው ዴሞክራሲ/ምርጫ ለምኔ?” ማለት የለየለት እብሪት ነው።

        ቢያንስ ይሄ የሚነገረው ህልም/ራዕይ አዲስና ሁሉን-አቀፍ ቢሆን እንኳን ሕዝቦችን ልብ ለልብ ለማቀራረብ ይረዳ ይሆናል። በይዘቱ የአንድ ወገን ብቻ የሆነ ትርክት፣ ከ44 ዓመት በፊት እንደ አገዛዝ ትርክትነቱ አርጅቶ፥ ደክሞ፥ ዝሎ፥ አገሪቱን አንድ አድርጎ ለማቆየት አቅም አንሶት ከቤተ-መንግሥት የወጣን ትርክት ባዘለ ህልም/ራዕይ፣ ሕዝብን መከፋፈል እንጂ አገርን አንድ ማድረግ አይልቻም።

        አሁንም ዴሞክራሲያዊ ሽግግር ይቅደም። የአገርና የሕዝብ አንድነት ዋስትና መርህ-ላይ የተመሠረቱ ዴሞክራሲያዊ ተቋማትና አሰራራቸው ብቻ ነውና።

        መልካም (የተቤዠ) ሰንበት!!!

        • Dear Hayat Adem,

          You brought what a tplf mouthpiece and a disgruntled activist said and you think it is important.

          “ሕዝቦችን እየከፋፈሉ አገርን ማዋሃድ አይቻልም” – አፋኝ፥ ጨቋኝና ከፋፋይ የነበረ መንደረኛና ጠባብ (provincial and parochial) ኢትዬጵያዊነት”. For him tplf never existed “አፋኝ፥ ጨቋኝና ከፋፋይ”. PMAA has never denied that the previous ethiopian governments including tplf/eprdf (do you remember our government was a terrorist?) had the characteristics described above. He tries to sanitize tplf unsuccessfully. He is barking at the wrong tree. Who tried to segregate ethiopians into ethnic kilils other than tplf, for its own ulterior motive of domination and exploitation.

          Nobody can speak of national unity by denying at the same time the existence of an ethiopian nation. For such people it is the essence of ethiopia that is their biggest problem. He has come to identify ethiopia with amhara and imperialism, as tplf and eplf did. If ethiopia continues to exist it is the feudal and imperial ethiopia that will exist, and not a reformed democratic ethiopia, where her citizens are equal stakeholders, democratic and modern, which is the new reality.

          “የመንደር (provincial) ኢትዮጵያዊነት”. What is so new if an olf is abhorred with the concept of ethipopianness. As tplf was against amhara and ethiopia when it landed with olf in addis, there is nothing new if such people continue to abhor ethiopian unity and ethiopianet. He should have known that this was the main reason tplf came with ethnic federalism, which served it for 27 yrs.

          “በአዲስ የእኩልነትና የነፃነት ትርክት (new narrative of equa-liberty)”. Is PMAA saying the opposite? His crime is his ethiopian unity narrative. Unlike them the pm does not want to build a castle in the air, but in an existing ethiopia. For them ethiopia is an empire and the imperialists are the amhara ethnic group, and ethiopia and ethiopiawinet are an anathema, as they are to tplf.

          “እሩቅ ያለውንና እራሱ ቢያንስ ሁለት አገር ሆኖ የሚኖረውን ሶማሊ ወንድምና ዜጋ አደርጋለሁ ማለት ግብዝነት፣ ከፍ ሲልም የሕዝብ ሳይሆን የግዛት ፍቅርን ያነገበ ተስፋፊነት ነው።” and “ከኤርትራ ትግርኛ ተናጋሪዎች ጋር በአስመራ በምፅዋ ስለምታደርገው መዝናናት”; The poor soul is trying to discredit cooperation with djibouti, somali, eritrea and all the neighboring countries. It shows his narrow world view,nothing else. He is not aware that it is not PMAA who said for the first time “even our camels know the ethiopian flag”. He is not ashamed to say that PMAA has imperialist contemplation. More or less he is saying that ethio-eritrean rapprochement is at the expense of tigrayans and you are condoning it.

          A democracy he is talking about that confines and limits ethiopia within its borders, while she is accepted by all as the anchor nation of the horn, is equivalent not knowing that a country which is democratic within has a democratic external policy as well. He is not aware that the young, the educated, etc are supporting the change, and unfortunately he continues to sing the tplf song he has been singing always.

          Finally, when you are talking about honesty, i am forced to ask the following. In the past when you were demanding persistently for ethiopian intervention to depose the pfdj, was it for the sake of eritrea and the eritrean people, or was it for the sake of an extended tplf hegemony that would have included ethiopia and eritrea? Was it the unfinished scheme why tplf remained a liberation front? Do you see honesty in your scheme to use ethiopian blood for your own motive?

          • Hayat Adem

            Selamat Horizon,
            No, I wantethe Ethiopian government to remove IA and his group. The primary purpose would have been to help Eritreans get out of the mess. The other point, I guess was for Ethiopia’s sake as peaceful and cooperating Eritrea would be to the interest of Ethiopia. Yes i do care for Ethiopia. My life time mission is seeing them together cooperating or united. IA is standing on the way. He should never be part if the future.
            Now, Dr Tsegaye is not Tplf nor Olf. And he is worried about the future of Ethiopia as it is slidding into the past I don’t think he is talking about the past at all. Hete, i am observing some kind of denial on your side You seem to be thinking Ethiopia is in good hands now just like we used to think of Eritrea under IA in 1991. Look where we are.
            I am telling you that your Ethiopia is leaving the safe zone. You can see this from 1001 angles and you will only be facing same glaring reality. This guy, 3A, will evolve to become a naked dictator in no time, something similar tovwhat have north of Mereb.. Every character of him exhibits so.
            Abiy has lost his Eprdf. Or the right way to say it ishe successfully killed it. Then, sooner than later, he will be losing Opdo. Andm has shifted to the old fascism (Wolkyte Metekel, Afar, Shewa, Raya.. Mengistu etc). His partial support will be in the Amhara elite dominated big townsand some in Debub. So, Ethiopia will be streched towards many directions. The only way Abiy can try is to keep it together by the stick. Nothing else.
            Ethiopia’s reasonable center at the moment was Eprdf. The other two forces are towards extreme unitary or extremely detached self rule.

          • Paulos

            Selam Hayatina,

            Give it a year or two, what you’re saying will be remembered! These people have no idea! If you can, listen to what Major General Dr*.Teclebirhan [Former Abiye’s boss] had to say about the emerging frightening reality in Ethiopia. Sure enough, they will vilify what he had to say as a desperate Weyane but only time will tell if that is the case.

            *Ph.D from the States.

          • Haile S.

            Selam Paulos,
            I am not here to defend Dr* Abiy, but to throw my brotherly advice. Avoid transgressing principles that you rightly defended.
            *PhD from AAU.

          • Paulos

            Selam Hailat,

            Thanks for the advice. I don’t think my principles are compromised neither do I believe that I am transgressing any boundary.

            The reason I made an emphasis on the academic achievement is that there is a tendency to doubt the caliber if it is accorded to certain people which certainly is unfortunate.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Dr Paulos,

            I think if I am not wrong Major G. Teclebirhan is T. Kifle we use to read his comment here at awate. Where did you listen his speech?

          • Paulos

            Selam Professor A. Hidrat,

            Not sure if that is him. I found the interview in one of the Eritrean tweeter feeds. It is really interesting to listen to.

          • Amde

            Gash Amanuel,

            Wow,

            “Major G. Teclebirhan is T. Kifle”

            Is that true?

            Suddenly I feel honored – he called me lazy and stupid.

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Amanuel
            It seems like you never never never paid attention at all. I’m kind of worried for you.
            T Kifle told us he is an engineer. He also told us he lives/works around Bishoftu ( as he put it).
            Why only Ras Abi pay attention?
            Genzebka!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Abi,

            He is Major General with a PhD in a technological security related field. I don’t know where he is working but I believe they were working with PM in the same security related institutions. For sure I don’t know if he is the same person that Dr Paulos has brought to our attention. I went to check to the Eritrean tweeters feed, and I can’t find it.

          • Abi

            Selam Ato Amanuel
            I miss his inputs in the debates. I hope he is fine. The last time he showed up was just after the historical election where eprdf won by majority vote that made Susan Rice laugh. He came up with a long hateta ( longer than the Vet MS hatetas) to justify the result. It was in Amharic.
            I hope he will visit us if he has time or at least send us Fanti the peace maker. He sent a warmongering, wrong person for the time being.

          • Safaee Michael Binieam

            Selam Prof Amanuel

            I believe you are describing major general Tekleberhan woldearegay former INSA director and not Teweldebirhan kifle (t.kfle).

          • saay7

            Emma:

            I don’t know how and why people made the connection between awate debater extraordinaire T.Kifle and Major General Tekleberhan (I hope it is true) but here’s the video you were looking for. Abi, no translations for you: all you need to know is he is very calm and very Weyane:) If your “medemer” guy can dmr him, then your country has potential.

            https://youtu.be/F7MgpzvrSK0

            saay

          • Amde

            Saay,

            There is word out an arrest warrant has been issued for the General. His deputy is reportedly already arrested.

          • saay7

            Ah Amde:

            I guess sometimes medemer also means adding to the detained population of Ethiopia.

            Any word why an arrest warrant has been issued? And, most importantly, do Hayat and Rahwa know? The problem with the internet is that sometimes people hear disturbing news about their loved ones when they are least ready.

            saay

          • Amde

            Ayii Saay,

            Abiy has been talking medemer and meqenesing the opposition.

            Allegedly, reportedly, supposedly something to do with a grenade at a rather public rally. The one FBI and Mossad among others were invited to investigate.

            The deputy (a Col Benyam) was given a job of Director of Education Quality or somesuch to move him out of INSA. Word is he was taken from his office/ And today police were all over his house.

            Nothing reported formally, so I give you permission to call me a rumor monger until it is more solid.

            Amde

          • Abi

            Saytanish
            Don’t you worry about them. The suicide prevention hotline they subscribed for has already alerted them the heart breaking news.

          • Abi

            Saytanish
            No need for translation buddy. This one is easy. I checked some of the comments to gage his approval rating. Well, you already put “calm” and “weyane” in the same sentence.
            I think you are distracted by the fireworks in the sky or the fire on the grill. What are you cooking?

            You know you were mean to T Kifle. He asked to borrow some books and all you gave him was a face. Your excuse? You got only ebooks. 😂

          • saay7

            Selam Abi:

            You checked the train (comments on youtube) to see that most are onboard and you said, nah, not interested?

            What the general is saying (in case you are interested):

            1. Rule of law is being replaced by rule of man (example: release of prisoners accused of murder and sedition);
            2. Abiy is the 7th emperor (king of kings) of Ethiopia
            3. the decision to privatize companies was never discussed. If it is an attempt at addresseing economic challnges, what is needed are policies that create employment and wealth and not sell-off wealth created over years;
            4. The decision to bring in the FBI to conduct criminal investigation is typical of countries that are US satellite states and have no sovereignty.

            He is wrong on all four points, and PM Abiy addressed most if not all of them in his address to the parliament (particularly on the sequence of events that led to the release of prisoners), but I think reasonable people can have different conclusions about this. So, basically Ras Abi, my advice is: don’t be like Eritrea, which criminalized any behavior that does not show conformism.

            Not commenting on T.Kifle as I have no evidence that the general and T.Kifle are the same person:) Grilling salmon and I resent FIFA for not having a game on the one weekday we have off. Damn FIFA.

            saay

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Saay,

            Thank you brother. I could not find in the Eritrean tweeter feed when Dr Paulos gave us the info, However, I have also info from reliable person that Teclebirhan Kifle (T.Kifle) is also a general with a PhD in cyber security engineering, working in the same institution. That is why when I saw Major General Teclebirhan without his last name in the comment, I suspect he might be him. Anyway, thank you for setting the record.

          • Selam Hayat Adem,

            All your predictions about PMAA have been a failure, and yet, you continue your prognostications about him. Now, you are saying that he is a dictator in waiting. This is about a person who has emptied prisons, released all those who were incarcerated by the infamous tplf anti-terrorism law, opposition political party leaders on death row their verdicts cancelled and returning home, people are rejoicing their freedom from dictatorship, etc. Just look at what Amde has said about PMAA’s achievements up to now, within two months, what others could not do in two years.

            Yes, sometimes freedom is intoxicating. Where some have overreacted and some old system apologists have found the chance to sneak in exploiting the commotion and the rejoicing to show their colors, you say that PMAA is bringing back the derg, the empire, etc

            Is it possible to compare DIA with PM Abiy? You created your own Frankenstein monster when he was still in the feild and you put him on the throne fully aware that he was a dictator.

            As much as you are concerned the safe zone for ethiopia is under tplf hegemony. Can’t you see that there is not a one in a million chance ethiopia will find herself under tplf dictatorship for the second time, which you call the safe zone? No, no way!

            Eprdf has been the brainchild of tplf, and in actual fact, it never belonged to opdo or andm, and therefore nothing is lost to PMAA. Simply, with or without tplf, he can use it as long as it serves its purpose. Without tplf it may be dead for you, but not for others provided it does the job, with three and even two parties in the coalition. What do you think would be the fate of tplf outside the eprdf. It will end up as one of the subordinate parties, some of whom could be promoted to be full members of the eprdf.

            Don’t worry, opdo will stand for ethnic federation, no doubt about that, the smaller ethnic parties will support opdo on this, andm will be forced to keep the ethnic federation, and despite what tplfists say, imperialists and dergists have no place in future ethiopia. It is tplf that is in danger of ending up irrelevant, if it excludes itself from the eprdf.

          • Hayat Adem

            Horizon,
            What did I predict about him? A prediction can fail for many reasons because it is a prediction. But on Abiy, the biggest prediction I have is that he will lead this country to troubles. I am already seeing those signs. My wish is that this prediction of mine fails.
            I think you are lying about that Tplf thingy. I care less whether Tpkf is in power or not. All i am is for a better quality not for DNA. If any Amara cones to Eritrea and runs Asmara as a good mayor would, I would give my vote to that person without a doubt.
            I do believe all those many good things that happened after the Derg are partly or mainly because of Tplf. Don’t you? Are there any positive thibgs registered for the last 27 yrs?
            If yes, can thry get a credit for that? My friend, you can’t claim they were controlling power and deny them for the many good things that happened in their time. Now, they are now in Tigray and my feeling is they don’t feel bad about it,. If they do, it is not because they get less of the federal power but mainly because the country is heading the wrong way and derg criminals are coming back through the back door. The Tplf may also be unhappy mainly because people like you are only telling their failures and none of the many great successes they brought. The Tplf maybe unhappy because people like you and Amde are saying “fine, we can have eprdf without you.” Tplf maybe unhappy because enlightened people like yourself are bashing Tigreans (your own people) left right and center as if you were waiting until such time comes.

          • Hayat Adem,

            Trouble in ethiopia has been the wish of many and it has not happened. It will happen only if those who lost absolute power revert to unlawful actions, which will be to their own disadvantage.

            I can agree with you if you say that economic development in ethiopia is PARTLY because of tplf, nevertheless, the failure of democracy in ethiopia was entirely due to tplf that brought the present situation.

            It is right you are abandoning the sinking ship.

            As much as credit is concerned, they have already reaped all the credits, all the advantages. Many have risen from poverty to riches, they have created the giant economic conglomerate through which they control ethiopia’s economy, and 85% of the cost of the infrastructure for which you say ethiopians should thank tplf is still owed and to be paid by ethiopia’s resources and tax-payer’s money, which will create economic crisis when ethiopia starts servicing the debt and its interest. When they left power there was foreign currency reserve to cover only two months of ethiopia’s international trade. With the foreign aid they amassed over the last 27 yrs, they could have made ethiopia a much better place.

            Political power and money power go hand in hand. In ethiopia what we saw was that the same people owned both powers. They were drunk with political and money power, and they forgot the limits. They did not care about their arrogance and their excesses when they were at the center, and you are telling us that they are worried for ethiopia, which once upon a time they dared to say, “it could be a country that was not meant to be”. Power and money are the two main criteria under which they functioned and dream to function in the future, if they return to power. That was why there was such a big corruption over the last 27 yrs.

            Because you saw the ghost of the derg, you are making a big fuss about it to score a point. It is dead and forgotten by the majority of ethiopians. It is only meant to scare some people by some brainless zombies.

            Finally, tplf lived in its nirvana unaware of the reality it created with its iron grip on ethiopia, because people like you did not tell them the whole truth, tried to justify their actions, saw only the infractures but not at what cost to future ethiopia’s economy, and at what advantage for them, etc. Contrary to what their great leader once said, i.e., “if ethiopians want power, they have got to go to the bushes and fight for it as tplf did”, ethiopians showed them that power is given by the will of the people, and whoever ignores the people will finally come out a big loser.

          • Berhe Y

            Hi Hayat,

            “The primary purpose would have been to help Eritreans get out of the mess. The other point, I guess was for Ethiopia’s sake as peaceful and cooperating Eritrea would be to the interest of Ethiopia. Yes i do care for Ethiopia. My life time mission is seeing them together cooperating or united. IA is standing on the way. He should never be part if the future.”

            I really can’t help and trying to understand what is your primary objective and interests are. You are against PMAA because he is working towards the interest of the Eritrean people (get along with IA) or you are against him because he is working against of the Ethiopian people?

            You know, removing IA and his group by force, we do not know the implication of that. And I don’t think from Ethiopian interest it’s their job to do so. I don’t think there are Ethiopians who are in support of that, including many who support PMAA. From Eritrea’s interests point of view (speaking from my point), I don’t think its up Ethiopia or anyone else to decide how to remove the dictator. We (Eritreans) need to do it in our own way so we can bring a lasting peace to our country and our region. There is has never been a very good example that we can draw, where the dictator is removed by others and the country was able to peaceful transition. Even if that was the case, the TPLF had 16 years to do but they didn’t. As far as assisting Eritrean opposition, all they did in the past 16 years were dividing the opposition and killing them softly by choosing this party or that party, this leader or that leader and create division. Please read SGJ plea with the Ethiopian government for many years……please elevate the Eritrean portfolio at the FM level instead of the security guys….and give it it’s due consideration….

            Berhe

    • Amde

      Selam Hayat,

      Sometimes I wonder if your account has been hijacked. You are usually logical, and a pleasure to read. Some of these posts are just not to your caliber.

      I mean – what is “ANDM reverting to Mengistu Idolization”? You know they were not formed out of POWs but were fighting Derg in the bush before forming EPRDF with TPLF right?

      I could go on but what is the use.

      Hayat, I increasingly read your posts to gauge the psychological state of TPLF hardliners because unfortunately I get little in the way of illumination.

      But their psychological state is ugly. They want to plunge Tigrayan farmers into war with Amara and Oromo peasants just because they lost their perch within EPRDF.

      Just chill out.

      Things are going well.

      Amde

      • Olana

        Dear Amde
        I think Hayat has a point and more informed this time than you and the Facebook man, Horizon, about the facts on the ground. The situation in some parts of the country is very ugly that could lead to civil war. It is not about TPLF or other parties dominance, it is about a country we call our country. Currently TPLF is contained in Tigray trying to reconcile itself with the people. How can you say things are going well while people are being killed and displaced. You may not have information but on a daily basis a lot number of Amharas are leaving Oromiya region by force. The leaders know this but they do not want to talk about it.

        • Amde

          Selam Olana,

          Well I will be happy to learn more information.

          But to be fair, ethnic displacement have been occuring since before Abiy. Unless someone tells me he is responsible, I would say it is a byproduct of the type of politics we had on the ground for a generation now. For once we have someone who gives at least some consideration to the causes of the problems.

          And much of her comments are about Ethiopians acting genocidal towards each other unless TPLF is in power. I am sorry, but i don’t buy that. I think it is insulting to be honest. That is why I said we will be fine. She is very smart – she can give us an honest interpretation of events and maybe even her recommendation.

          But on your overall comment, I agree your perspective on the ground is infinitely more useful than our prognostications. So having said that, I would like to learn more from you. I have a hard time with this talk of civil war fir instance. What is the concern actually? Who would be the protagonists? It is important to know so diaspora like me can assess and judge how we can help.

          I look forward to your response.

          Amde

      • Hayat Adem

        Hello Amde,
        This is a bit of a deviation. 1) You are supposed to be concerned with the state of the nation not the state of individuals. 2) you consider Hayat as TPLF hardliner is less than being honest. I never minded others saying it and they have been saying it.
        This being a tangential issue, my bigger point is that Ethiopia is being sacrificed for petty group interests.

        • Amde

          Selam Hayat,

          My expectation is very high for you, so my criticism if you will. Horizon has articulated well how you are coming across – that all of us are can’t simply wait to finish each other off were it not for the benevolent oppression of the TPLF. It just ain’t so.

          The Bahr Dar thing is a combination of:
          – reaction to the irrational criminalization of the display of the flag without the star,
          – ANDM celebrating getting out from under TPLF control

          There is no “Amara Yiqdem” mission. But there is a lot of pent up and legitimate Amara grievances about the system. That is why we now have budding Amara Nationalism. Instead of standing up for Amara people, ANDM has for decades been considered an enabler and instrument of TPLF oppression. Much like the Qerro movement pushed OPDO out of TPLF orbit, so is Amara popular pressure pushing ANDM.

          For the typical Amara or Oromo “revolutionary democracy” just means TPLF oppression, pure and simple. The term is toxic. So is the EPRDF brand. That is why you hardly hear either mentioned by OPDO or ANDM politicians anymore. They have found legitimacy among their respective constituencies if they stop talking about it. Which is politics 101.

          So, we are where we are. EPRDF rejected. TPLF rejected. We have been effectively told Parliament is irrelevant as a deliberating body since we have EPRDF. But the country has been aflame for three years now, so obviously something about EPRDF itself as a consultative and deliberative body was not working.

          It would be pointless for EPRDF to get a new chairman who will just do the same exact thing. For once the new one is making changes which appear to work. And change means winners and losers.

          Abiy might be a dictator tomorrow – maybe even declare himself king. But nothing he has done to date is worth any of the hysteria.

          He has calmed a jittery country in three months.
          He is emptying the jails and airing out nasty torture stories – with a judicial review board now named so these terrible do not happen.
          He is addressing communal violence.
          He has invited opposition in exile to come back in. It is on them to work with him and the people to broaden the political space.

          If the country was going to hell, then it was doing so way before three months ago. And that is squarely on the system of 27 years, not on Abiy.

          Hayat, it is time for you to imagine an Ethiopia without TPLF at the helm.

          Amde

    • Nitricc

      Hi Hayat; you said ” When you are trying to use everyone for a gaming end, it is possible you can also be outgamed. In a process you are hurting your beautiful country”

      Really; lol I have smelled years ago and I have said my take about you but is not time just you come clean. What do you mean when you said ” you are hurting your beautiful country” do you mean to say ” you are hurting your( OUR)- beautiful country” You are fooling no one but Semere Andom and your self.

      • Hayat Adem

        Dear Nitricc,
        “I have smelled you years ago..”
        Are you a dog by any chance?
        There are a couple of things of you that resemble that if a dog and one is your incessant barking applause for the doddering criminal man. But I never thought your smelling quality also was as good.

  • Teodros Alem

    Selam All
    PIA said “game over” for tplf. and it looks like most forumers here in awate endorsed it. directly or indirectly.

    • Nitricc

      Hey Teddy, this what I read from Bahir-Dar gathering. There were very funny and interesting reading but this one made lough out loud.

      ” Siga Siga silu yeqen jiboch hulu

      “Abiy” tsom geba engdih min yiblu” lol

  • Paulos

    Selam Kaddis,

    Many thanks for the perspective. Do you see a possible fall out with in EPRDF? If you do, what do you think will be the possible outcome? I value your perspective greatly for it is not only balanced but devoid of hate as most forumers seem to harbour. TPLF gave them through blood and sweat the resilient political structures and institutions you just described but sadly they are in a complete denial. In any case, thanks again.

    • Kaddis

      Selam Gash Paulos,
      Maybe I am too optimistic or underestimate the challenges EPRDF faces from the disoriented external opposition; but I dont see a reason or force threatening a fall out.
      I foresee intensified fighting by the reformists, who will be more and more allied with the core party uncorruptible gurus (I still believe both EPRDF and EPLF retained some ) versus the new non-ideological, corrupted party loyalists network.
      Not among the regional party lines in my view.

      • Paulos

        Selam Kaddis,

        Hope your sense of optimism holds. That is the last thing any good wisher would want to see. Thanks again. God bless!

      • Saleh Johar

        Hi Kaddis,
        I hope you also read my comment to Amde and wish you could add something there.
        How deep do you think the influence of the loyalists in the current developments?

        • Paulos

          Selam Ayay,

          Where is the comment? Can’t find it.

          • Saleh Johar

            Hi Paulos,
            It’s up on this thread posted about an hour ago…

          • Abi

            Hi Paul
            Dr Aregawi Berhe is going back to Ethiopia to be part of the movement. Actually he used the metaphor “train” in the interview.
            He also said TPLF is not Tigray and Tigray is not TPLF. This is exactly opposite to what you want us to believe. Actually, I found your earlier comment a little bit too reckless. I like to agree with Dr Aregawi. He is also against ethnic politics in Tigray and everywhere else. He is my kind of person.
            Any thoughts? Thanks.

          • Kaddis

            Abi hoy,

            The biggest plus of the current change is bringing the political discourse back home.

        • Kaddis

          Gash Saleh,
          I couldn’t find your comment either.
          The loyalists for me are the cadre types, don’t have much ideological convictions, in it for the money types. They joined in droves after 2005 election, helped to implement the party policies for growth but also damaged the party with repression and corruption; hence a reason for revolt.
          Due to their corrupted network’s they could be a resistance for change.

  • Mitiku Melesse

    Hei Aman.
    The discourse can be explained only in amharic.
    ከማያውቁት እግዚሃብሄር የሚያውቁት ሰይጣን ይሻላል ነው ነገሩ

  • Mitiku Melesse

    Hei All.
    When did the racist tplf org reached to its climax?
    Hmmm, when it could bomb somali or eritrea when it wanted. Nopp. That was just before the climax.
    The climax came when the woyane puppet Desalgne (he visited tigray more than the other regions he visited all together) made his peculiar announcement: Europe, USA, Obama, the secretary general, the whole word, you name it with out Ethiopia we can not move forward concerning Africa…..He said this immediately the woyane government was invited in white house.

    The lunatics did not know even why they were invited. Woyane has done almost all the assignment given to it by US like Somalia, South Sudan, etc. but there was one final assignment where the Red Sea shall be secured by the WEST. Demonizing, Boycotting, Sanctioning, emptying young Eritreans have weakened Eritrea and with the help of the long arm of USA or the west for that matter the 500 pages document had made clear that Eritrea is number one enemy for the peace of its own people and eventually for the whole world.
    Exactly at this moment the mass exodus of Eritreans is at its highest point. And the whole world accepted woyanes and US propaganda over Eritrean regims.

    The last day where the west and usa will take over the Red Sea was announced by UN ”Human Right commission”. The document read for the whole world how Eritreans suffer from the brutal regime and how the NEIGHBORING CUONTRYs suffer by it. (ሊበሉ ያሰብዋትን ጅግራ ዶሮ ይልዋታል… በድሮ ግዜ ኢትዮጵያኖች ጅግራ አይበሉም ነበር). (anybody who invade Eritrea will be the hero of the world, that was the idea)

    The same night there was a fight between woyane and tplf. Some thing unexpected happen. There was some shot exchange. Tplf has seen the new military and equipment of Eritrea and that war wont be won with out consuming half Tigray . What tplf wants is a victory without a single tigrian death. It could bring millions from non-tigre. So tplf decline the free multi billion dollars gift. Was it free? Bombing Somalia and Eritrea when ever US wants, was it free??. It was not free if we are Somalis and Eritreans. And we Ethiopians are Somalis and Eritreans if you know what i mean. Period.

    USA went banana. They worked for that 500 documents more than 4-5 years. But in two days that document renounced by US. It said simply it was not enough or something to that effect, i dont have time to look for it. Since that Day US turns its face from woyane. You know how rebels backed by US marching to power as if they are superman and they go back wherever they come from as looser would do when the USA magic potion stopped . That was the end of story. I dont want to speculate the rest. Time will tell us.

    PIA always upset and irritated by US and tplf relation. He knows more than we the common people concerning CIA. He knows a thing or two.

    • Blink

      Dear Mitiku
      I think TPLF can risk even 3/4 of Tigray to get what they want , the only problem with was that the Yemen pipe come as a blessing to PFDJ and after that every thing become history. Don’t forget also the Ethiopian youth would have said NOPE. Remember as you said Hayat and coo were hinting this bombing Asmara and put some of the awateforum guys as leaders and that dream failed because they have tested the Adiquala war in 2016 . What the Americans want will always be served but it has one problem and that is the TPLF were leading a country that put its youth in prison. I can guess TPLF prison was just equally to the American prisoners. I believe TPLF arresting system was just like no other . It is estimated that above 1/4 million people were in prison and all these prisoners were from Amhara and Oromo , this number by itself bit TPLF hard and after that boom 💥. TPLF is not TPLF now it is called Tlf . Looking at this OPDO a party that was formed in 1982 worked its way up to screw the tape . People say TPLF is represented by Arkebe and one pretty Muslim woman and that is centuries joke ever told .

  • saay7

    Selamat Awatistas:

    And now for something completely different.

    So, what’s up with the use of the train metaphor? Whether its PM Abiy telling the people in Afar that the train is moving and get in or left behind, or Hayat and Rahwa calling it a crazy train, or Abi calling it the non-dedeb locomotive, or MS calling it the inevitable one, the train is used a metaphor….surprising coming from a culture where (a) nobody uses the train; (b) is notoriously late for everything (Habesha standard time.)

    The late William Safire, who used to track the origins of phrases, wrote (in 1981) that “the expression ‘You’ve missed the boat’ was replaced by ‘That train has left the station’ and will one day be replaced by ”That space shuttle has already started the countdown.’ But he was writing in New York City, where they have subways which arrive right on schedule. And a culture that progressed from boats to trains. What’s next? “Get on the gravy train?”, “He is from the wrong side of the tracks”? “That’s the third rail”? Have we become so Westernized that we use any expression regardless of its application?

    That was a rhetorical question because people are also inviting each other to “get their popcorn and enjoy the show.” As if a country that has a high likelihood (just like every African country: ask the Crisis Group) of becoming a failed state is a show.

    Don’t get me wrong: I think it is interesting that Abi and Nitricc formed a coalition and arguing against Hayat (insert as many exclamation points as you like.) I think it is interesting that Horizon, who just recently use to criticize an attack against TPLF as a threat against Emama Ethiopia is fully woke. Won’t even mention the transformation of Abi from “Dabo now, democracy later” to “dabo, democracy, meat now” kinda guy. I won’t even mention that what is happening in Ethiopia now (ANDM+OPDO against everybody) is exactly the scenario that was laid out by Rene Lafort back in November when he was declared enemy of the State by everyone now who is polarized. (Abi was on sabbatical then, in a bakery.)

    Anyway, keep the debate going; but, come on, keep it elevated and use local metaphors, That is, if you insist on using them (here come: “daytime hyenas” and similarly boring expression.) I have it from good authority that ነጮቹ and the office of ክቡር ንጉሠ ነገሥታት አብይ ወዲቦይ ኣሕመድ read this page.

    saay

    • Ismail AA

      Dear saay7,

      The matter that worries me is not (per se) using “ye ferenjoch” metaphors such as train. Worrisome part of it is whether the one sitting in the driver’s cabin of speeding train would be aware of railroad switches, which should remain in working order. He can lose control and let the train continue speeding until it crashes against something else. Hearts and minds soothing measures such release of prisoners that are being taken by Dr. Abiye could be welcome. But allowing back criminals of the Derg era in the name of reconciliation and love could render one of the railroad switches fail to fulfil its programmed role.

      • Berhe Y

        Dear Ismael,

        I think allowing Derg criminals back is a bit exaggerated in my opinion. In Eritrea for example after independence, there hardly was anyone who was held accountable because of their association with the Derg. The one person I know is, Estifanouse MeAsho, who was put to jail and last time I heard was still in jail. I really don’t know if he deserved it or not, and what his role was, except he was in charge of organizing the militia Sernay. For such part (where the militia were not critical members, only joined mostly to get food), I think it’s a little bit an extreme panitiment for a sentence that comes from Isayas who personally ordered the arrest.

        Other than him, I don’t know if anyone who got harsh panitiiment. All those hasewt who use to terrorize the population by spying and arresting, all were at home when PFDJ was formed and continue the same system of control via the kebele system.

        In Ethiopia, I think with the exception of the millitary, the TPLF allowed them to continue with what ever profession they were doing, may be slowly sidelined.

        Of those top leaders, I think most of them were either dead because of old age (if on average they were 50 in 1991) now they must be in their late 70s (because they were in power for 17 years, and may be in their 30s, when come to power). If I am not mistaken, PMMZ have also granted them clemency because of their old age and they were released.

        I don’t know anyone who were given death sentence and carried out. It may be hard for the family who were victims but I think, EPRDF have handled the transition and at least Ethiopians should be proud of the blood spilling didn’t continue.

        Back to the current issue, so who exactly are the derg criminals that are allowed back in and will have any chance to continue their old habits.

        Other than Mengistu, I don’t know anyone who has symbolic significance to do any harm. I think allowing him back and allowing him to live free is really an insult and a traversy of justice to the victims and their families. He needs to be brought to justice and his crimes needs to be heard and he needs to face the victims. What sentence he gets, may be for another time (house arrest, etc) but he should not be used as a symbol of pride and joy to rally people against anyone.

        If people carry his pictures and have some nestalgia, I think it’s not right or wrong at this point.

        It’s not right because it creates fear and bad memories of the past. It’s not wrong because, if there is no such legislation (as far as I know) to ban his image to be used in public or private (it will be very hard to enforce).

        Because of long time has passed, I think it has less relevance in deciding the outcome.

        Berhe

        • Ismail AA

          Selam Berhe,

          Much of what you stated is reasonable. The time elapsed and political capital involved may render the issue not so crucial. In the case of Eritrea, I do not believe the regime and the man at its helm have heart for the injured. We all know how he used the Derg legacy to serve his self-interest be it on bureaucratic or security levels. Have we forgotten that he trusted Dr. Amare, who resisted being Eritrean to the last minute and underscored his convictions by way of his doctoral dissertation, more than any with similar expertise and given his/her share in the struggle for the objectives Amare had opposed tooth and nail?

          Anyway, the core of the matter in dealing with crimes committed under previous rulers is whether or not justice should run its course in relation to victims and their families. Should we put on the scale of justice and weigh the multifaceted damages and injuries victims had suffered and political expediencies cloaked in clemency and spray sault on still open injuries of victims. How will families of young students who fell to Mengistu’s red terror when they see people raising his pictures in rallies? How will a family of a victim who paid the price of bullets fired to kill their loved one and see the same thug walking free whatever his age?

          In my view, a worthy government or politicians who may boast of redeeming people from perpetrators of evil in the past should respect the feelings and emotions of families of victims.

        • Selam Berhe Y.,

          I am not aware of what exactly transpired concerning the derg, dergists, and MHM’s picture, either in addis or in bahrdar during the demonstrations, and if PMAA has said anything about the derg. I wish you tell me few things if you have the time.

          Nevertheless, at this stage and time, if the spectre of the old demons has shown its face again during demos by overreacting citizens or those who still support the criminal derg, it is not really possible to control the behavior of some individuals and groups.

          Similar things are happening in europe, the usa and elsewhere. The far right is denying the holocaust openly, some are trying to commemorate hitler, in russia stalinist are freely showing their nostalgia, etc. Only in germany, from what i know, is there a clear stand on hitler and nazism, (although far rights have entered parliament), that manifesting the legacy of hitler and nazism, and denying the holocaust, are punishable by law.

          In case of the derg and MHM, in the future the ethiopian parliament may have to decide whether they will be allowed political rights, such as forming a party and free demonstrations in public, etc. At this very moment and under this condition, if they sneak in among the people and show their ugly faces, i do not think that they are accepted even by those who stand by their side, for there is almost no family in ethiopia and eritrea that has not been affected by the derg.

          As to dictator MHM returning to ethiopia, he would not dare, even if allowed. As to his children, that is another matter.

          • Berhe Y

            Dear Horizon,

            I am not totally aware exactly to the Derg and Mengistu. There was question / answer with PMAA with regards to Derg in the meeting in Afar. In the peaceful demonstration in Barirdar, I think there was a big poster of Mengistu and PMAA where someone was carrying among the people.

            I agree with your points, unless there is a low that passed to ban people from carrying images of him or use his image and his organization in public, it’s really hard to control.

            I am not saying it’s right thing to do, but it’s not illegal either unless there is a law that bans in.

            I agree, it should be illegal to do so in my opinion.

            What I am having hard time to understand is, how relevant they are (if they are at all).

            Berhe

        • Mez

          Dear Berhe,

          It is probably the way you look at it; and from which angle you observe things.

          Justice shall be served whereever it is due. But at the same time respect for other opinions and outlooks shall be the norm of the day.

          Derg was a military government, and shall be viewed as such.

          Thanks

    • Peace!

      Hi Saay,

      Not to mention our brother Amanuel Hidrat’s ironic silent while civil war/ disintegration openly and fiercely being promoted by TPLfites and Agazians after he, for years, equated criticizing TPLF to hate for Tigray people and wish for disintegration. Where is he now when Ethiopian needs him? ወዳጅ ለመቸ ነው

      Peace!

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Peace,

        ሰላም ይብጻኻ::

        What do you want me to do, after condemning the Agaziam movement (if it is a movement at all) and affirming my position that there is no unity of Ethiopia by bashing Tigrians and their sole organization, that has paid the lions share of sacrifice to liberate Ethiopia from Derg, and kept the unity of Ethiopia intact, when in fact power vacuum was created. I have warned that the disintegration of the current EPRDF which is the center of their stability will affect the unity of the country, and most probably the ethnic based parties will retreat to their bases.

        I have also make known my position that lifting the national emergency and releasing criminals with the political activists is wrong when the nation is in chaos has not political wisdom behind it. And worst, giving amnesty for the bloody Mengstu and his colleagues not only wrong and immoral, it is the miscarriage of justice. The call of peace without justice does not bring a lasting peace. If you haven’t followed my comments, this one will be a compiled position of AH. Keep them as note.

        • Haile S.

          Selam Emma,
          ከመይ ቀኒኽቅ? How about the amnesty of 1998/99 following the war with Eritrea, just after 7 years? Double standards?

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hailat,

            Justice must be observed for the victims whenever and wherever it happened to them. That was and is my position. You can’t advocate for rule of law without justice. As simple as that.

        • Peace!

          Hi Emma,

          I always applaud you for being a voice for the voiceless for which I have enormous respect. I was not commenting on your overall stance rather specifically on your pretty much muted tone when Rahwa, Hayat, and Agazians openly promoted civil war in Ethiopia.

          Peace!

    • Nitricc

      Hey SAAY; actually the right metaphor will be “the run away” train. When PMMA assumed power TPLF thought Hailemariam Desalegn 2.0. Boy did they surprised. indeed the runway train.

      • saay7

        Nitricc: A runaway train is one which is outside the control of its conductor and usually has disastrous consequences. If you believe that, why aren’t you worried sick?

        saay

        • Nitricc

          Hey SAAY; I was referring how the TPLF and their supporters see the change; as a runaway train. They have no control of it and if you ask them it will have a disastrous consequences. Read Hayat’s post. My bad I should have made it clear my references.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Nitricc,

            You should have answered saay in a truthful way.
            You should have said:

            I am like one of those musicians on the Titanic. (talk about a metaphor)
            The only thing I understand and do is play my instrument. (Then you should have made the all familiar statement that …) I believe in my infallible leader. As long as he is at the bridge, all the massive water I see is of no consequence.

            Mr. K.H

          • Nitricc

            Hey Kim; you don’t drink do you? hahahahah. What are you talking about? Even if you have a gun on my head, I will tell you nothing but the truth. Anyways, what are you drinking? you better share it : – )

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Nitricc,

            Yeah right.
            When was the last time you had yegebs Tela or are you the Tej kind of guy? First, do you know what it is like?

            Mr. K.H

          • Nitricc

            Hey KM; I have seen and tested Tij in DC but I have never seen or tested Tella, but I have heard of it. Is it sweet like Tij? Someone told me Tells is just like beer.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Nitricc,

            This is really funny. I am probably correct in assuming you saw and tasted Tej in an Ethiopian or Eritrean restaurant. The answer to your question is yeah the translation of Tela is beer.

            I just prey that saay read you and me just now, to underline our posts.

            Mr. K.H

          • Amde

            Hi Nitricc,

            The best Tella is something like a Guiness Dark, but there is considerable difference in taste appearance and potency.

            Its Tigrinya language version (Siwa) made its way into a WikiLeaks entry on Eritrea. It is actually funny.

            Amde

    • Kim Hanna

      Selam saay and Awatistas,

      The extent to which most Awatistas have been westernized and use phrases and western metaphors was and is in full display for a decade or more.
      I wish it was only just the form of their expression that is westernized. ( I reluctantly include myself in the same group.)
      I believe we are pretty much disconnected from our former countrymen in a material and substantive ways as well. I believe, the current leaders and elites on the home front understand this corrupted phenomena and use it to their own advantages.

      However, I think, it is disgusting and over the line when some pontificate and advocate in a stealth way for the arrival of a failed statehood. They do it in such a clever and entertaining way like their teachers.

      We all carry our own baggage and crosses. I just hope we stop and reflect on our statements and strong positions, because more likely than not we are all relying on imperfect or corrupted information.

      Mr. saay does it on occasion like this one. I know it is in short supply for our men/women to admit his/her shortcomings. We must, at least admit we are consuming information and narratives that is corrupt and act with humility.

      Ask the question….Do I really understand how a taxi driver with a family, a security guard, truck driver, farmer and an office clerk think, feel, fear and prey for?

      Mr. K.H

      • saay7

        Mr KH:

        Hmmm. I think I was lamenting that people on both side of this divide were treating this as a movie or a show because they kept saying bring your popcorn. How is it a show when the risks are that high, was my question.

        And the fact is that, objectively speaking, every Sub-Saharan African state including Ethiopia is a fragile state. Pointing this out doesn’t mean one is wishing for it (it would be the worst thing to happen for East Africa with massive ramifications for all neighboring countries and beyond) but if you want to use the “it can’t happen here” just want to remind you that’s the phrase of every place where it happened. In fact there is a great book by Sinclair Lewis about it.

        saay

        • Kim Hanna

          Selam saay,

          Sorry, I probably didn’t say it right.
          I did understand you to say that it is not a movie and that it can happen in our part of the world.
          Oh yes I do have that nightmare on occasion.

          Mr. K.H

    • Eyob Medhane

      Sal,

      You want a local metaphor? Here it is.

      ፈጣን ነው ባቡሩ ባቡሩ ፈጣን ነው ባቡሩ
      ቆራጥ ያልሆናችሁ እንዳትሳፈሩ
      ፈጣን ነው ባቡሩ

      It is a famous derg era wello kinet song. 🙂

      My understanding of what PM was saying is that, his party is in path of reform and if you disagree with that you can’t continue being in the same fast moving movement and hold us back. I do believe that most hand wringing is from the folks that couldn’t move fast enough. I also do believe some outbursts and juvenile excitement will simmer down over time..