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Breaking Through Our Dejavu of Disasters

You could spend a lifetime marveling at the criminality of the Eritrean government, if you were not so awestruck by its stupidity.  I am saying the Eritrean government because using its substitute—Isaias Afwerki, Isaias Afwerki regime, PFDJ—will get in the way of my argument here.   In any event, I will come to that near the end of the article. For brevity, I will just use the word Eritrea which is how the world treats acts committed by its self-appointed representatives, anyway. There is no clearer demonstration of how uniformly stupid Eritrea’s foreign policy (and, for that matter, its domestic policy) is than to refer to the background that led to Eritrea being placed under United Nations sanctions.   The 2009 sanctions on the Eritrean government did not descend from the sky; nor are they indications that the world is “not fair.” They are the consequences of Eritrea’s dealings with UN vis-à-vis Ethiopia, Somalia and Djibouti.

I. Ethiopia

Since 1999, the United Nations Security Council has been issuing resolutions on what it surreally calls the “situation between Eritrea and Ethiopia.”   By 2004, the “situation between Eritrea and Ethiopia” was such that the Eritrea Ethiopia Boundary Commission (EEBC) had rendered its verdict and said that the flashpoint of the Eritrea-Ethiopia border war, Badme, belongs to Eritrea. Ethiopia, which didn’t want to implement the ruling unconditionally was trapped: each UNSC resolution expressed “its concern about Ethiopia’s rejection of significant parts of the Boundary Commission’s decision, and its current lack of cooperation with the Boundary Commission.”

While trapped, Ethiopia also had a way out: the United Nations agreed with its definition that the United Nations, United States, Algeria, African Union and European Union are “witnesses” and not “guarantors”; and, thus, Eritrea and Ethiopia bear the “primary responsibility” for the implementation of the boundary commission. That is, the Witnesses would do what they can to facilitate, but they are not going to have legal obligation to enforce a decision.

By the time the UN heightened its language that it “demands that Ethiopia accept fully and without further delay the final and binding decision of the Eritrea-Ethiopia Boundary Commission and take immediately concrete steps to enable, without preconditions”, Ethiopia had a game plan: it would, officially, drop its Five Point Plan and it would commit in writing to the UN that it accepts fully the ruling. It did; and this was “welcomed” by the UN.

Meanwhile, Eritrea had no game plan for how to deal with the UN’s characterization of Eritrea’s “Guarantors” as “Witnesses.” Since one of the “guarantors” that was calling itself a “witness” was the United Nations itself—the others being the United States of America, Algeria, the African Union, and the European Union—you would think that would clue in Eritrea that it is praying at Mount Deaf and should reverse course, but no, it kept praying (and still is) at the same mountain. It also had no game plan on what to do in the event that the party with whom it shared “primary responsibility” for demarcating the border, Ethiopia, refused to co-operate.   No game plan unless one considers a monomaniac insistence that the Witnesses are Guarantors and that they have an obligation to compel the party that is obstructing the process, Ethiopia, to abide by terms it had agreed to is considered a game plan.

Consider just two issues: the United Nations Mission in Ethiopia and Eritrea (UNMEE) and Lloyd Axworthy.

As part of the Algiers Agreement, the UN had a to maintain a 25-km buffer zone in Eritrea to cool off the tension between Eritrea and Ethiopia. The mandate of UNMEE was until such time that the border between the two States is permanently demarcated. So, if Ethiopia drags out demarcation indefinitely, UNMEE will be in Eritrean territory indefinitely? That was Eritrea’s reasonable question.   But the way it managed the issue, to continuously humiliate UNMEE (fuel denial, travel restriction) was a gamble that it would pressure the UN to pressure Ethiopia—a terrible gamble that only managed to annoy the UNSC and all the countries that contributed soldiers to the peace-keeping mission.

In the same vein, when the UN Secretary General appointed a Special Envoy, Loyd Axworthy, Eritrea could have hosted him (it is our culture, after all, to host guests) and politely told him that while it welcomes his visit, it still sees the faithful implementation of the EEBC as the best path forward. But no, Eritrea flat-out refused to see him. This angered the UN even more because it goes to the very issue of legitimacy and respect for the institution. Eritrea’s reaction was so boorish that subsequent UN resolutions consistently expressed negative language—“regret” and “alarm” “deplore”—at the way Eritrea was handling the issue.

By the time the Somalia issue exploded into full-fledged civil war, Eritrea had squandered whatever sympathy and goodwill it had accumulated for having a neighbor who refuses to honor his contract.

II. Somalia

In 2008, a year before the imposition of sanctions on Eritrea, the United Nations Security Council had TEN (probably a record) resolutions about Somalia. The resolutions express, they urge, they call, they demand and finally they condemn “the significant increase in the flow of weapons and ammunition supplies to and through Somalia, which constitutes a violation of the arms embargo and a serious threat to the Somali peace process.”

There had been an arms embargo on Somalia since 1992 and a monitoring report on Somalia since 2002. By the time the sanctions were imposed on Eritrea, every monitoring group report on Somalia since 2002, (that is for 7 years, and sometimes there were two reports a year), mentioned Eritrea’s involvement in breaking the arms embargo on Somalia. In fact, said the Monitoring Group, Eritrea’s involvement goes back all the way to 1999 and its war-by-proxy with Ethiopia. War-by-proxy because there was no consistency to it: For example, Eritrea supporting warlord Aideed and then supporting his opponents, the Transitional National Government, when Aideed allied with Ethiopia. And vice-versa, of course.

Now, all this was par for the course: every country did it: Yemen did it, Ethiopia did it, rich Arab countries did it, the United States did it. Nobody got sanctioned; everybody got a slap on the wrist. But at some point, there was delineation: Africa (in the form of the African Union at Sirte) and the world (in the form of the United Nations) threw their hefty weight behind one side, and Eritrea threw its not-so-slender weight (when you consider that it was often a conduit for third parties) behind the other. And at every single turn since then, the Eritrean government picked the wrong side. If you look at the carcass of Somalia, you will see that Eritrea supported the Alliance for the Reliberation of Somalia (ARS) when the world was supporting the Transitional Federal Government. When the ARS split into a Djibouti-based and Asmara-based groups, the world supported the Djibouti-based group and Eritrea, obviously, supported the Asmara-based group: and lost. When the Djibouti Agreement became the foundation for future Somalia, the Eritrean government lost and was stuck with all the refuseniks: Aweys and Al-Shabab. When Africa and the United Nations invested in African Union Mission On Somalia (AMISOM), Eritrea was on the opposing side, particularly as the UN was “reiterating its demand that all Member States, in particular those in the region, comply fully with the requirements of these resolutions.”

Eritrea could probably give a reasoned explanation of how it ended up allied with Shabab—that they were the armed wing of ARS before they split, etc, but it didn’t. And when every country got the message that there was only one “legal” side to take in Somalia or risk the wrath of the world, Eritrea (a superpower in its own mind) didn’t and now it is paying for it. Even worse, it was sending horrific letters to the United Nations lecturing them on why the Djibouti Agreement and Somalia’s Transitional Federal Government were the wrong prescription for Somalia. And by horrific, I mean this:

The Security Council statement asserts that the “Transitional Federal Government is the legitimate, internationally recognized Government of Somalia”. As my Government has underlined on many occasions, the highly complex and grave conflict in Somalia will not be resolved by arbitrary and ill-advised formulas that have no basis in international law and that do not reflect the wishes and sovereign political choices of the Somali people. “Transitional Governments” that are periodically hatched in non-inclusive incubators outside Somalia have never survived the test of time in the past years in spite of the huge military and financial support extended to them by their external sponsors.

It may very well be that Eritrea is right and the whole world is wrong, but there is a price to pay for defying the world and it is the responsibility of Eritrea’s policymakers to take that consideration into their calculation and there doesn’t appear to be any evidence that they did so.

III. Djibouti

Meanwhile, a year before Eritrea was sanctioned, it got into a military clash with Djibouti.

Of the other factors—understanding the nature of the United Nations, the Algiers Agreement, Somalia—how Eritrea behaved on this issue is the most inexplicable. It really is a temper-tantrum masquerading as foreign policy.

So, in June 2008 (which is, if you are taking notes, almost exactly a decade after the Eritrea-Ethiopia clash), Eritrea clashed with Djibouti. We know this because a New York Times reporter, Jeffrey Gettleman, reported it (complete with pictures of the two armies in border control.)

Now, Djibouti is a member of the Arab League. And Djibouti is practically a French colony. And Djibouti is landlocked Ethiopia’s main port. And Djibouti is host of the Djibouti Agreement that was the path to Somalia’s reconciliation. So, to the surprise of nobody except Eritrea, the inevitable happened: ONLY two DAYS after the initiation of the conflict: a Statement by the President of the Security Council on June 12

“The Security Council condemns Eritrea’s military action against Djibouti in Ras Doumeira and Doumeira Island. The Security Council calls upon the parties to commit to a ceasefire and urges both parties, in particular Eritrea, to show maximum restraint and withdraw forces to the status quo ante. The Security Council urges both parties, in particular Eritrea, to cooperate and engage in diplomatic efforts to resolve the matter peacefully and in a manner consistent with international law.“

As a country which has had experience with the UN on how the institution deals with conflicts, as a country which had conflicts with a neighbor over islands (Hanish/Yemen), as a country which had experience with importance of timely communication with the UN on all military conflicts (Ethiopia), Eritrea should have known what was next: that the UN would demand a return to status-quo-ante, it would task a fact-finding mission to gather facts by traveling to Djibouti and Asmara.

“As a local proverb says, ‘a slingshot hits its target and emits a shrill cry first’.”  I heard the citation of this damn proverb throughout 1998-2000, but I never thought I would hear it followed by this statement: “Djibouti thus did not only launch an unprovoked attack, but leveled a trumped-up and well-orchestrated accusation against Eritrea.” We learned nothing from our Badme Debacle: this was from a statement Ambassador Araya Desta read to the United Nations on June 24, 2008!

This Dejavu of Disasters is what happens when you have no institutions and no learning organizations. What followed is even worse: a fact-finding mission was delegated by the UN to visit Eritrea, Djibouti and Ethiopia and, all together now:

“The mission was initially scheduled to visit Djibouti and Eritrea, as well as Ethiopia: Ethiopia shares a common border with both countries in the area of Mount Musa Ali and is also the current Chair of the Intergovernmental Authority on Development (IGAD). However, it was not possible for the fact-finding mission to visit Asmara or the Eritrean side of the border to ascertain the prevailing situation. In spite of several discussions and requests in New York and Asmara, the Eritrean authorities refused to issue visas to the mission.”

And therefore:

“The refusal of Eritrea to receive the United Nations fact-finding mission to ascertain the facts on the ground meant that only the Djibouti version and chronology of events was made available to the mission. During its visit to Djibouti, the mission was given the following chronology of events by the authorities of that country:”

And any Eritrean who has been reading massive exodus of Eritreans to anywhere, the following narration by Djibouti as to what could have contributed to the skirmish does NOT ring false:

(k) Mid-April to 10 June: while EDF and DAF are positioned at the border within a few meters of each other, over 50 Eritrean soldiers of various ranks (the exact number is yet to be established) desert their army and seek asylum on the Djibouti side. The deserters receive the protection of DAF, which refuses to heed appeals from EDF to return them. EDF issues several ultimatums and threatens reprisals if the deserters are not returned;
(l) 10 June, 1215 hours: another EDF officer deserts and crosses the border into Djibouti. DAF again offers protection, as had been the case with the previous deserters. Again, EDF commanders demand the return of the deserter, this time within an hour. DAF ignores the ultimatum;

(m) 10 June, 1840 hours: EDF opens fire at DAF while the majority of Djibouti soldiers are busy praying. The ensuing clashes last more than 24 hours. About 44 DAF soldiers are believed killed, 19 are missing in action. The number of casualties on the Eritrean side is unknown, but unconfirmed reports indicate that Eritrean losses are not considerable;
(n) After 10 to 12 June: following the growing expressions of international concern and the deliberations of the Security Council, which, inter alia, called for a pullback of the forces to their previous positions, DAF withdraws to about 4 or 5 kilometers from the Eritrean positions. The fact-finding mission was able to confirm the pullback on the ground. For its part, EDF ignores the calls for a withdrawal from its positions on the heights of Ras Doumeira, or at least the mission was not able to ascertain the reactions of EDF to the Security Council’s call for withdrawal from the newly occupied positions.

It appears that Eritrea knew exactly what the facts were and did not want to confirm them. But if it had engaged the fact-finding mission (all of whom were UN staffers/technocrats) it could have driven this point home (which appeared in a report that it didn’t even contribute to) calmly:

(c) The mission has identified an interrelation between the Ethiopia-Eritrea conflict and the Djibouti-Eritrea crisis. Even though this issue was never discussed extensively during the mission, it is almost certain that a breakthrough in the Ethiopia-Eritrea peace process will go a long way towards securing the cooperation of Eritrea in efforts to demilitarize its border with Djibouti. Any progress in resolving the Ethiopia-Eritrea issue would also be likely to encourage Eritrea to accept an international arbitration process that would lead to a mutually accepted demarcation of the Djibouti-Eritrea border. One should not underrate the formidable impact of the protracted Ethiopia-Eritrea dispute on peace and stability in the entire Horn of Africa, given especially the frustration of Ethiopia and Eritrea at the lack of progress on this issue since the Ethiopia-Eritrea Boundary Commission ruling in April 2002. The members of the fact-finding mission share the increasingly accepted view that much of the instability in that region is related to unfinished business and the unresolved Ethiopia-Eritrea dispute, particularly their efforts to counter each other’s (real or perceived) interests and actions in the region, be it in Djibouti or in Somalia;

But it appears that, once again, it was allowing its rage that the UN could not “compel” Ethiopia to withdraw from Eritrean territories to dictate its foreign policy. If the letter President Isaias Afwerki wrote the UN is anything to go by, the latter appears to be the case:

It is against this backdrop that the United States Administration has chosen a “propitious” time to contrive and orchestrate a seemingly new and diversionary scheme under the rubric of a “border conflict”. This was effected through the “submission” that the President of Djibouti was made to lodge anew with the Security Council yesterday. This appalling scheme has further been accompanied by outright intimidation and sabre-rattling against Eritrea. Eritrea’s position on the whole episode has been clarified repeatedly and does not merit repetition here.

In the letter, President Isaias Afwerki is accusing the United Nations of being a US lackey which probably explains why virtually no nation voted against the sanctions on Eritrea.

What Now?

Observing Eritrea 2014, one is often struck with what the motif would be if it were a story. Pride and downfall? Heroism and Honor? Power and Fortune? There is no danger of over-thinking this because you will be awakened by banality. Consider Eritrean Ambassador to the UN, Girma Asmerom’s, response to the recent Monitoring Group Report on Eritrea. First, there is the-UN-betrayed-Eritrea-in-the-1950s broken record, which is a lot like Ethiopia’s harangue to the UN during the 1998-2000 border war that the League-of-Nations-betrayed-Ethiopia-in-the-1930s: this doesn’t impress anybody at the UN who is younger than 100 years old.   Second, consider Ambassador Girma Asmerom’s recommendation: they (all the members of monitoring group) should all be fired! There is a pattern to this: the previous head of SEMG should be, yep, fired! What was party-cheerleader Writer Sophia Tesfmariam’s reaction to the UN’s Commission on Inquiry which has been authorized by UN to collect information on massive human rights violations in Eritrea? They (Sheila B. Keetharuth and her entire staff) should be fired! Everybody (except Isaias Afwerki) should be fired!

There is a huge disconnect between how the world communicates with Eritrea and how Eritrea communicates with the world and with itself.  Here’s one example: when long-time Africa expert Herman Cohen penned a sympathetic article suggesting “Time To Bring Eritrea In From The Cold”, Eri-TV interviewed Isaias Afwerki and he took the expression literally: “what cold? Since when?”

Another weird phenomena: the Eritrean government has taken the same position with the UN as it has with Eritrean opposition: they don’t exist! Well, they exist but somebody else is pulling the strings. The UN doesn’t exist; it is the US pulling the strings (which must be offensive to China and Russia who are not exercising their veto power); the Eritrean opposition doesn’t exist; it is just Ethiopia pulling their strings; whose strings are being pulled by the US (no wonder we are SO uncoordinated: that is a lot of strings.)

Of course, we, ok I say that there is no Eritrean government: it is just Isaias Afwerki pulling the strings. How is this possible? There are many ways to do this: writer Gore Vidal once wrote that “the whole point to a ruling class is they don’t conspire, the ruling; they all think alike.” So I begin with this premise: Nakfa (military hierarchy, communist orientation, Habesha culture) provided the environment for Isaias to emerge as a leader; the followers then begin to think like him and to mimic him down to his mannerism and vocabulary: not because there is anything inherently bad about Nakfa, but because that is what followers do, particularly when a leader is larger-than-life and charismatic. So, even if one makes the assumption that many of the followers have some autonomy, then it still follows that they have internalized how to communicate in a way that they always MUST assume Isaias Afwerki, as the Brother Leader, is the primary audience. Consider this: “In Cairo on 15 February 2014, the Monitoring Group raised the question of the source of the weapons used to arm TPDM [DemHT] with the Senior Political Adviser to the President of Eritrea, Mr. Gebreab. Mr. Gebreab told the Group that the Government of Eritrea does not support TPDM, which he said was interested in fighting the Government of Ethiopia.”

Then he excused himself to respond to a text he got from TPDM. No, but it is ridiculous to claim that in a country which doesn’t permit a congregation of Eritreans to move from Point A to Point B, a large group of Ethiopians are traveling all over the country—never mind the “unproven” military presence of DemHit; just focus on the much publicized (on their own website, available to the monitoring group) musical troupe, “TPDM Concerts In Eritrea”—even though the “Government of Eritrea does not support TPDM.” Look, Yemane, (and you know this, because you are smart): the Monitoring Group knows about what you are doing in Eritrea with TPDM the same way you knew what was happening in Ethiopia during the Eritrean Revolution: defectors.

So, our way out is quite simple, but not easy. (a) Remove the primary audience, Isaias Afwerki, and the ruling class, headless, will stop using its Isaias voice—as has happened to most exiled EPLF/PFDJ officials; (b) Create an alternative voice by being a good example of what a democratic organization looks like, as HASN’T happened in the exiled opposition. Yet.

Meanwhile, all evidence this week is that It appears that what everyone fears will happen. A spontaneous uprising, without a clear leader is clearing its throat to give its voice in Eritrea. In this regard, many of us who had downplayed the possibility of that happening in a police state have been humbled. Many of us have believed our own media releases and sources: Eritrea is full of youth who are enslaved and are agitating to leave the country. While this may be largely true, it is not all true. There appears to be another group: those who want to fight back but need assistance from the outside. Those who are tired of being taken for granted by the government, and pitied by those of us in exile. “What you forget,” I was told by one of them, “The mistake you guys make…Eritrea is an authoritarian state but it cannot be a totalitarian state because, after all, it is an African State. Even if it wants to be one, it can’t: it doesn’t have the resources.”

Finally, Ethiopia.  It is clear to me that they do not just want an Eritrea without Isaias Afwerki. They want an Eritrea without many Eritreans—those who have a mindset that Eritrea has the legal and moral authority to dictate its terms even if it means that it will have to reject the Ethiopian narrative of history. This is not an inconsequential belief: if they believe that elongating the rule of Isaias Afwerki enhances the likelihood of the Ethio-refusnik (those of us called advocates of “artificial identity”) voices dying out a merciful death, then they will do everything they can to elongate his rule.   Consider the utter panic that gripped Aigaforum when there were rumors that Isaias Afwerki had died a couple of years ago.  Just in: consider the article which appeared on Voice of America (Tigrinya) on how Aboy Sebhat (the godfather of TPLF) thinks that the long-standing policy of TPLF that the “Eritrean question is a colonial question” should be reconsidered.

Conclusions:

The sanctions on Eritrea didn’t descend magically and they are, actually, entirely predictable, part of our deja vu of disasters, of anger masquerading as foreign policy. This is so given how the United Nations operates and how (a) the Eritrean government made a series of bad decisions as it relates to UN’s characterization of the “guarantors” as “witnesses”, and the actions it took to resolve the Eritrea-Ethiopia dispute; (b) the Eritrean government double-downed on its investment in Somalia when the whole world had taken sides and vested itself with the Djibouti Agreement; (c) the Eritrean government chose to dismiss a military clash with Djibouti that was the result of Eritrean soldiers defecting to Djibouti when Djibouti was screaming to the UN. Given the response Ambassador Girma Asmerom gave the United Nations (that the entire Monitoring Group should be fired) and given how the United Nations reacted (extending the sanctions and the monitoring group for another year by a vote of 13 yes and 2 abstentions—both abstentions having to do with treatment of Somali sales of charcoal and nothing to do with Eritrea), it is clear that Eritrea has not learned any lessons at all and the march of folly will continue.

Meanwhile, it appears that the long-suffering Eritreans are showing signs of rising up against the tyranny imposed on them and the government has brought in, for reinforcements, Eritrea-based Ethiopian opposition to restore order (same opposition that, we are told, gets no support from the Eritrean government.) If we fear descent into chaos, we need to find a way for the Eritrean Defense Forces to take over and we need to find a way to mainstream the EDF into finding a voice that is independent of Isaias Afwerki. This can only be done if those of us who are in the Diaspora set a good examples by creating democratic organizations that respect all the values we claim to cherish: equality, diversity, and justice.

About Salyounis

Saleh Younis (SAAY) has been writing about Eritrea since 1994 when he published "Eritrean Exponent", a quarterly print journal. His writing has been published in several media outlets including Dehai, Eritrean Studies Review, Visafric, Asmarino and, of course, Awate where his column has appeared since the launch of the website in 2000. Focusing on political, economic, educational policies, he approaches his writing from the perspective of the individual citizens' civil liberties and how collectivist governments and overbearing organizations trample all over it in pursuit of their interests. SAAY is the president and CEO of a college with a focus in sound arts and video games and his writing often veers to music critique. He has an MBA from Golden Gate University and a BA from St Mary's College.

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  • Admas

    Can you imagine the consequence if Eritreans who are now proved incapable of managing a tiny land of 5 million tried to rule a country of 90 million…God forbid….

  • Abraham Hanibal

    Mr Mehari;
    That was funny. Are you indirectly implying that Eritrea is part of Ethiopia? You’re at a loss Mr. Mehari, it is not in the blood of the Eritrean People to aspire for something which is not theirs. The PFDJ dictatorship may have such fantasies; but as far as the Eritrean People are concerned, they are perfectly happy and content with what they have in Eritrea.

  • Kim Hanna

    Selam Mehari,
    .
    Frankly, what you are suggesting, could have been accomplished by a visionary Eritrean leader over 23 years ago with the least resistance, I might add. Of coarse, it cannot be presented in such a blunt way as you did. However it would have worked with a little finesse the likes of SSAY could provide. Even the problem of Eritreans calling themselves Ethiopians for the greater good could have been sold in due time. That scenario is called spilt milk, though.
    .
    K.H

  • AMAN

    @Semere Andom
    It is still true that PFDJ didn’t lead the Eritrean quest and issue after independence in the
    right and correct way. If not you wouldn’t see his trial and error (Hasase Lebam) journey
    method at tremendous sacrifices even to the extent of total extinction and destruction of
    the nation and its society. Some reasons I presume for this
    1. The primary concern and occupation of PFDJ for its hold to power than the wellbeing
    and salvation of the country Eritrea and its people. For PFDJ his protection of his power
    comes first before the people or the country.
    2. His brutal reductionist and isolationist methods : In this in post independence Eritrea
    while aiming to expand and grow the already functional EPLF party into bigger one by
    including other sectors of Eritrean society what it has been doing was reducing and tearing
    down the party of the people to its lowest level and form and abandoning and alienating
    everyone and later come up begging for those who already abandoned to rescue and save
    him after killing their motivation to struggle for the country and the people.
    You can also see this how it has alienated all that positively contributed in the independence
    struggle, the diaspora, the intelligensia, and all those who hold the stake in the nation and
    the struggle.
    So it should always be clear and known that the struggle and its goals is only OWNED by the
    people and for the people…..though individuals may have different levels of contributions
    there is no way to act absolutely and form dictatorship rule above the people again in the name
    of……
    BECAUSE WE HAVE ALREADY LEARNED TO BE WISER NOT BE FOOLED AGAIN !!
    YOU FOOL ME ONCE SHAME ON YOU……..YOU FOOL ME TWICE SHAME ON ME !!
    SO OWNERSHIP OF THE STRUGGLE AND ITS GOALS TO THE PEOPLE NOW !!!

  • AMAN

    I.
    Ethiopia is not a state….it is only a union name or name of a union of states.
    In the old nation building of the past the process of nation building was to
    impose the single nation state on the whole country while keeping the others
    as tributaries or subjugated ones. This is what the nation state of Shewa
    in its battle with Tigray, Eritrea, Harar and the rest did and accomplished
    and sustained it under different names administrations untill 1991 before
    the revolution of the Ethiopian people stopped it though it is true that the
    military admin was not as tactful in implementing it the way it started by HSI
    it has greatly acquired and inherited without change the previously laid
    infrastructures of his predecessor HSI. Thus it is only just to call the Ethiopia
    of that time the nation state of shewa (though named Ethiopia)
    II
    In the post 1991 phase, that is exactly the same what tplf/eprdf did also.
    Tigrian nation of Ethiopia……without half of the Tigrians in Eritrea. So
    untill a different way of building a union country Ethiopia is on the scene
    Eritrea should also follow the same procedure and route of building Ethiopia
    because so far the process is only a process of nation state building and
    calling it Ethiopia. If this is not done justice is not done. I do not know any
    other way or method to rectify and right all the wrongs done in the name of
    building Ethiopia from 1943 till 2005 while making greater and original part
    of Ethiopia (Eritrea) as victim to step over and get ahead of them to control
    Ethiopia.
    III
    Thus in the end it is only repeating the cycle that has made a complete circle
    passing all the phases and processes since 1943 untill 2005 in another time
    and space dimensions.
    In conclusion Eritrean peoples and the nation’s struggle should be for leadership
    of Ethiopia and not as the struggles of the states of SNNP, B-GUMUZ and BORANA
    AFAR peoples who are looking only for inclusion and assimilation without being equal.
    Eritrean history and reality in Ethiopia is quite different.

    • Amde

      Hi Aman

      I actually checked in to thank you for using the word “Shewa” than the cliche of Amara. To me – understanding the recent past as primarily a story of Shewan political hegemony is a much better model to understand the present. I wanted to puke when someone on this board recently posted that the Amara were about to drive Tigrayans into extinction.

      Basically, within the historical context, a century of Pax Shewa has been replaced by a quarter century of Pax Trans-Mereb Tigraina, even if the trans Mereb quarrel has not resolved itself.

      I foresee an “Eritrea” powerblock as being a continuing member of political actors playing the power game in the horn. This is irrespective of the border and sovereignity status.

      I am not sure I agree with your discussion on the Ethiopian Nation. I have found the word nation to be useless actually.

      In any case I dont know if you misspoke when you said the mission and purpose of Eritrea and its people should be for leadership of Ethiopia.

      I have two things to say about that.

      First is that this kind of rhetoric is an unfair burden to pose on a new generation. I happen to think it Is the unstated national Project Eritrean Elites have continued to play. I know I come across as naive and uninformed to Saay and HaileTG who have been kind enough to let me know that Badme was a result of a series of miscalculations, misjudgements, mismanagemnts and other misses. In other words, a bunch of exceptions from otherwise “sharp ” people (I am sorry Saay, but I had a good long hearty laugh about that one). Well there is saying in science that the plural of anecdotes is not Data but since politics in general is not scientific, I will say there is sufficient data that the core problem of present day Eritrea is the gratuitous pursuit of regional hegemony unquestioningly supported by Eritrean Elites and the people.

      The second thing I will say is that the reason you see so many Ethiopians on this site so vehemently swearing “over my dead ” to any hint of Eritrea coming back to Ethiopia is because what you are proposing .. i.e. Eritreans as Leaders In Ethiopia, was the personal experience of most Ethiopians already. Eritreans were the privileged group under HaileSellasie, were the dominant merchant and professional class under the communist Derg, and commonly perceived as the power behind the throne during Weyane. Everyone who remembered the pre-Badme years acutely remembers the feeling of being second class citizens in their own country. And many Eritreans were not shy about letting you know that THEY called the shots from the lowly qebele to the palace. So for most Ethiopians, this is already an experiment that has run its course and verdict already rendered.

      Amde

  • Kokhob Selam

    serous? I think the first step to do is to lead yourself even as individual. then comes the family going up to the nation and create interconnected nations. only when we start to think that everyone should be respected we will fulfill the requirement of nature or God. the day we start to think peace of all human beings nations will disappear my friend. but if still we think to control others the contradiction continues due to self expansion. think about it, why even think of shiwa governing Ethiopia then Tigray then Eritrea etc. all this is coming from the lost real self.

  • Guest

    shewa and tigray are Ethiopians and eritrea was a colony of ethiopia, foreigners like Uganda or south sudan.

  • Abinet

    Sholla
    Abay molto, Tana molto esat yizorewal
    YiTefatal enji meche yidhagerrwal?

    • Eyob Medhane

      Abi,

      Everything you say, Leza Alew… 🙂

  • Nitricc

    @ SAAY and Mahmuday! Deep!
    Eritrean Kids Singing
    ኣስላማይ ክስታናይ ኢድ
    What a country, what a people! This is what the likes of TPLF thugs make them lose sleep over and drives them to say crazy stuff. You know the likes of Aboy Sibhat, the old man have few weeks left to live, yet he is going crazy at the end of it. I don’t blame him.
    “Kulu Gobez Tesedidu” ?????
    And still they manage with kids who are left behind to pass their deep and meaningful messages.
    This is the very reason I believe that out potential as a nation is not lost but postponed. Once the dust settles, watch out.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh9g6EhCXpw

    • Mahmud Saleh

      Nitrikay;
      The kids are extremely talented, thanks for sharing the clip. But….
      1. Sorry, I hate the police sponsoring it and the culture of politicizing religious holidays.

      2. The kids are very talented and I like that, but look who they are entertaining? 50+ years-aged audience. I would like to see those talented kids entertaining kids, disabled and the poor; that’s what Eid AlfaTr is all about. You visit the needy, family members and friends. You make kids smile. I would get them to gig for charity. So, they learn the essence of the holiday. I honestly hate these concerts held on religious holidays for non-religious/spiritual reasons. If those individuals Who are indulging the moment could get their bottom off the chairs and donate the entrance fees and whatever they are drinking to the needy, they could have fared better in the eyes of their creator. Ehm…for further information on this matter, contact ayakha saay.

      3. But hold on nitrikay. I have got even better clips for you. You see kids are always kids. Even if you coach them to be different they never lose the essence of childhood. Oh, before I leave you, My favorite program on ERI-TV is “medeb wari.” The rest is “Serving The Brute.”

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVWMkPizGww
      Well, I was looking to share you a Tigrayet clip, but for now no “wari program” in my language could be found, awaiting.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2obWaL-hcCg

  • Semere Andom

    One of the very few Ethiopian bigots has misunderstood one of the relatively few good eritreans. This relatively good Eritrean did not say that. And was not expecting revenge. He just made the point that given that fact and blood shed both Degi and criminal before him unleashed, given the polarized environment the “Tigres” did well not to seek revenge. This speaks highly of both people, appoint this relatively good Eritreans made before. Why you guys having understanding this simple fact.
    Sal what is the title of the Jerry Seinfield episode when one guy attributed everything to the “anti-dentites” ?
    Sem

    • saay7

      iCEO Sem:

      It’s the “yada yada yada” episode and you are misremembering the “anti dentite” reference:) jerry suspects that the dentist is switching to Judaism just so he can make Jewish jokes. Later he learns that the dentist is just a guy who likes to makes all kinds of jokes. He is chastised for his prejudice: that he couldn’t believe a dentist would be funny and that can only be because he is “anti dentite.”

      The lesson here is different: Jerry and Company really thought “anti dentite” was so clever it would be a catchphrase. But only the elite like Sem remember that at all: people remember another phrase from the episode: yada yada yada and how it is always used to obfuscate and not clarify. In Tigrinya we say “gele mele”, down south they say “gizaE mizaE”…:). Partly for brevity but partly as George suspected with his girlfriend to hide critical info.
      saay

      • ghezaehagos

        …Father Curtis: [in a confessional booth] Tell me your sins, my son.

        Jerry: Well, I should tell you that I’m Jewish.

        Father Curtis: That’s no sin.

        Jerry: Oh, good. Anyway, I wanted to talk to you about Dr. Whatley. I have a suspicion that he’s converted to Judaism just for the jokes.

        Father Curtis: And this offends you as a Jewish person?

        Jerry: No, it offends me as a comedian!

        ….

  • haileTG

    Motion for proposed amendment of Awate’s Clause [25] Posting Guidelines, sub-article [25.6] Generalizations and Consequences:

    We, here by propose, an amendment to this august forum’s working guideline, referred as Clause [25] or commonly known as Posting Guidelines, or simply as PG’s sub-article [25.6] pertaining “comments that generalize race, ethnicity, tribe, region, religion, etc” to be so amended to read as “comments that generalize race, ethnicity, tribe, region, religion, nationality etc. Thus, immediately following the due ratification of the the motion proposed henceforth, individual commenters or article publishers would be subject to the regulatory diligence of Clause [25], sub-article [25.6] and appropriate redress mechanisms specified therein.

    Stamped and dated,
    Signed

    • saay7

      Haile TG:

      Nicely done. The problem with “nationality” is that it has two meanings (see attached image.) you will notice one, meaning ethnic group, is already covered by our posting guideline. The other, meaning “of or belonging to a nation” would be problematic. For example, if someone writes “the problem with you Eritreans…”, do we really want to take punitive measures in the same way as when someone says “the problem with the Saho is…”?

      I do appreciate the process you have initiated. It may appear minor but it is initiatives like yours that will help us build a democratic culture.

      saay

      • Tzigereda

        Selam Haile TG and Sal,

        I would appreciate when you include “gender” to the ” new amendment”.

        Thank you.

        • haileTG

          Thanks Tzigereda, your observation has been added. Now, this makes it a popular demand (more than one:). Let’s see how the powers will react. saay would now have to take the people’s demand upstairs or Awate’s cyber revolution may be in the making 🙂

          • saay7

            Haile TG:

            Let’s make this a teachable moment, then, particularly to our hgdefite friends on how democracy works:)

            (1) There was a motion put to the table – by HTG
            (2) The motion was seconded (kinda) – by Tzigereda

            The next step is discussion.

            Following discussion (or if there is not discussion), the motion is put up for a vote. All in favor, up vote; all opposed, down vote.

            The ayes have it, or the nays have it.

            saay

          • Semere Andom

            Hi Sal:
            Just to complete the tutorial that is direct to you know who, by the powers vested on him her by the AT, SGJ or someone else who is the president/executive of AT: I do not know this because it changed so much, this person has the power of veto 😉

          • saay7

            iSem:

            Ateer lew fihimtek, wa nabi:)

            Can you write it in American English?

            saay

          • Thank you for the important motion initiated by Haile and supported by many of you. Actually Sal Younis was absent when we deliberated on it. Here are the results:

            1. The motion passed with consensus (absent members revoked their right to vote)
            2. The board delegates Sal Younis to rewrite the article in question in accordance with the motion.

            Thank you

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Sem A
            Hahaha hgdf style democracy, can you re-post here the deliberations/discussions you made on it? You were busy elsewhere bxay semere.
            Ustaz saleh, I vote “yes” ኣይትስመዓዮ መደናገሪ ተጋ/ሰመረ.

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Hailat,

      Good idea. Amendment to include “Nationality”. BTW did you take business law? Your way of crafting the clause gave me the impression of that. We shall see how the dual Salehs’ will merit to your request.

      regards,

  • tazabi from addis

    “then we Eritreans are not only going to defend our Independence, but
    this time around, we’re going to make sure to dismantle your fragile
    federation into its entities, so that we can secure our Independence for
    ever.”

    i was once again would like to remind my Eritrean what the consequence of the above hubris. our Eritrea is saved only by mercy extended by Eritreans and half-Eritreans in the TPLF

    • Abraham Hanibal

      Mr. Tazabi;
      I believe in the inhrent strengeth and desire of freedom of my people. Surrender is not in my vocabulary as far as the Eritrean People are concerned. But you may surrender if you want to.

  • tazabi from addis

    “then we Eritreans are not only going to defend our Independence, but
    this time around, we’re going to make sure to dismantle your fragile
    federation into its entities, so that we can secure our Independence for
    ever.”

    oh, we are not aware till today Eritrea is so homogenous that it is only made up of Arabs and Italians. The Afars, Kunamas,etc are some Indians to driven into reservation, wiped out, or pushed into the country of the donkeys.

  • Admas

    “then we Eritreans are not only going to defend our Independence, but this time around, we’re going to make sure to dismantle your fragile federation into its entities, so that we can secure our Independence for ever.” Abraham Hanibal

    However much we try not to get dragged in to Eritrean issue there is always some Eritreans who tempt us in to it..It is not so much the thought of an Eritrean wishing ill towards Ethiopia that is most surprising, rather the timing and the circumstance in which a beggar rides the wish….Of course a common Eritrean peasant whose views are tented by years of war propaganda can not be expected to know all the unseen hands that was behind the so called “Independence” but after 23 years of not being able to lift a finger on a single crippled dictator, it begs belief when some Eritreans still try to portray themselves as though they are capable of achieving the un-achievable…Of course in whichever way the independence was gained it can be argued that it is still an achievement as long as it was a “goal” but trouble comes when the craze for the “second goal” leads to deadly misjudgments and disqualifies the whole game…It is even worse, when the dreamer is a disgruntled Eritrean in exile who is not willing to learn from mistakes his “father of identity” is making and keeps dreaming Yugoslavia next door while unable to mange a small African hell-hole of his own…But my question to day dreamers like Abraham Hanibal is, please tell us what you as disgruntled Eritrean in exile have got, that your master Isias does not have for your dream to dismantle Ethiopia..የዛሬዉን አያርገዉ እና at least Isais once had all the support he can get from euphoric people of Eritrea with which he could have caused as much damage as he has always wanted, but he couldn’t and in fact all he ended up producing is fantasists like yourself with a compulsive-fantasy-disorder who can neither free himself or wish good for other….bragging to dismantle Ethiopia after we have dismantled Eritrea interesting…..I guise you should at least wait for Isais Afewerqe’s latest desperate attempt as he has already began baptizing Eritreans as Oromo ( it did not begin with Tesfaye gebreab) in his endless quest to dismantle Ethiopia and deliver your wishes, and best of luck by the way, as I could be one of those to be freed by never-free people of Eritrea…..

    • Abraham Hanibal

      Isn’t it clear for you that Ethiopia is a bunch of ethnic groups held together by the barrel of the gun under the EPRDF, and living at the mercy of foreign aid? Ethiopia was, is, and will only survive by the special treatment of the West, esp. that of the US. The fate of this artificial federation is doomed, history is your witness, just look at the former Soviet Union, and Yugoslavia.
      And remmember that we Eritreans never had or have evil wishes on your country. Remmember also that it was the EPLF that encouraged the TPLF to re-think its policy of breaking away Tigray from the rest of Ethiopia during the struggle against the Dergue. This is in addition to the positive role the EPLF persued when the EPRDF set out for a mission of forming a transitional government in the early nineties. What I said was in response to those of your leaders who might try to mess with our independence. And just like other sovereign nations, we’ve the right to defend ourselves, And in that defense we would include the facilitation of the demise of your fake federation, so that we could once and for all live in peace without having to worry about imperialists popping up now and then in your country.
      As regards our internal situation, we’re working on the issue, and the Eritrean People will overcome the impase caused by your cousin Isayas and his likes.

      • Semere Andom

        Hi Abraham:
        Ethiopia maybe a bunch of ethnic groups but definitely it is not held together by the barrel of the gun, the ethic group has the right to separate peacefully. The west may have played a role, but why is that hard for you guys (those who romanticize Eritreans) like you to admit the ingenuity of TPLF to transcend its ghedli stupidity and create that coalition because they understood the barrel of gun will not work and they assembled decent coalition. And the people are relatively content. Like any multi ethic group African nation Ethiopia is prone to conflict and separations and as long as this is done peacefully, it is a triumph not a failure. I live in Canada and every 5 years or so the country is gripped by the idea of separation, not so much now as the separatist movement has slowed. But in 1996 Canada almost split, the referendum for separation lost by less than 1%.Yet Canada is a vibrant and promising unfinished country in the plant.

        Your analogy of the Soviet Union and the rest is also wrong; Ethiopia is a fledgling democracy, trying its best from its humble and complex past, it is the best it has been. Lot soft work to be doneto moving on from the Habesha centric to embrace its diversity but so far under the current leadership it is showing promise, no one can tell the future with a crystal ball, but one thing is for sure if Ethiopia is going to be fragmented it will not be by the mighty power of Eritreans, not just because we are weak, but because of the smarmy arrogance with which Eritreans view themselves and from where did they get it? Were we created this way. No. We were programmed with it by the PFDJ’s 40 year rule since 1970.

        In the last 23 years at least Ethiopia did the following things that seems not to impress you;

        1.Lifted the life of Tigrayinas from their impeding extinction during the degi rule and they did not take revenge on the Amharas, this is almost Madellasqiue

        2.They have one bloodless power transition according to the transition planning and again they will be tested in the coming election.

        3.They have MIT while you have Main Nefhi, the first one a college he second a military camp where teenage kids domicile, its only resemblance to being a school

        About your assertion that it was EPLF who convinced them to abandon, this is just from the PFDJ play book, you are not privy to the discussions that the leadership had in charting its own destiny. Lbi kikoneka, this people are men/women of their own. You are buying too much into “Temeharo eyom nerom kishb shiwa”

        “then we Eritreans are not only going to defend our Independence, but this time around, we’re going to make sure to dismantle your fragile federation into its entities, so that we can secure our Independence for eve”
        Ethiopia would be stupid to invade Eritrea and no Eritrean including this commenter would support that, but I think there maybe a risk they may take parts they need/want, they are still comfortably occupying our land now and we cannot do anything about. Forget dismantling their Federation, you cannot even take what is yours for the last 13 years.

        • Fetima Dechasa

          “1.Lifted the life of Tigrayinas from their impeding extinction during the degi rule and they did not take revenge on the Amharas”

          What do the Amhara people got to do with this? What is wrong with Eritreans? Some of you are so oblivious to your own innate bigotry that it’s astounding. Wal biratti ilaaluu nandanda’a, waa’e saa abjootu. Isa ni argina.

          • Semere Andom

            Are you denying that the Amharas were the ruling class and through that they took everyone for granted and imposed their culture and languages. For sure limited number of people were creating the havoc and are responsible for the murders and atrocities Eritrea and Tigray. But when what you call collectively the “Tigres” won both in Eritrea and your country, they did not take/seek revenge on the Amharas because they understood that the criminals were all Amharas although many Amharas were the obvious beneficiaries of virtues of the ruling class connections. Where is the bigotry here?
            My generation and I are victims of that cultural and military colonization so I am not going to mince my words and appease you with my political correctness.
            Come on now, call the truth as I am doing with Eritreans. I am an Eritreans. You have to be ashamed what the ruling class during HS and Dergi did to both Eritreans and Tigrayias. OH I for got they did it to all Ethiopians too because they fair and equal opportunity dicators

          • Admas

            Oh my God, in fact the worst crime “the Amhara elites” did was they were neither good to themselves nor to others…They were too naive to embrace you too close for comfort that you managed to bleed them from inside, unlike the Tigrians who knew you guys inside-out and decided to flash you out of Ethiopia. The result, Ethiopia is at last enjoying a relative peace like never before..Therefore my friend, although in ideal wold no ethnic group should be above the other, I just can not imagine if any other ethnic group in Ethiopia could have have tamed you people(Eritreans) the way Tigrians have done brilliantly and still doing so…so my friend, If you think by playing cozy flirtation in the name of past alliance or caltural bond will get you out of your mess, go ahead and try it but I don’t thing they will be stupid enough to risk their relationship with the rest of Ethiopians thanks to their past near-miss experinace that nearly cost them their political future…Tigrians need whatever Ethiopia can offer them as citizens of Ethiopia more than the worthless cultural similarity they have with you people…by the way it is up to them if that is what they want to , but all I am saying is it have proven to be impractical in the past and will once again end up being impractical and deadly..and I don’t think they want that…

          • Haile WM

            “I just can not imagine if any other ethnic group in Ethiopia could have have tamed you people(Eritreans) the way Tigrians have done brilliantly and still doing so…”

            that’s funny 😀
            Looking forward to hear your next fairy tale. Welcome back Febu1.

          • Hayat Adem

            Admas,
            Why do you have to say all this? I do not know what school you went to but I’m guessing you might have made it to a college or possibly more. All that should have helped you choose your words and select your attack target responsibly. No body is that fool to mistake you here for admiring the Tigriyans and disowning Eritreans. I think you are exactly (at least in essence) disowning both peoples knowingly or innocently. You can be one of these: a very carelessly emotional who jump-guns on anything without processing his thoughts or a very cunningly evil person who has the ability to fetch happiness out of fueling hostility between fraternal people just for the sake of marveling at giving multiple life to hate. If it is the the latter, I’ve no hope for you and you belong in a mental care center. But if it is the former, I advise you to learn either to deflect or if that is impossible because of the urge to respond in kind, do it surgical and pointed to whoever pissed you off. Please, drop any temptation of extending a blanket talk of hate. I would never say what you said, under no pressure or temptation. No Hanibal or Nitricc nor the Arayas would make me utter such stuff. Do you know what terrorists do: they fire where ever they think the reaction to their would include a large number of unsuspecting innocent people as victims. When an angry respondent reacts blindly, the terrorist wins.
            Hayat

          • Semere Andom

            Hi Hayat:
            It is mind boggling. Some people want us to say that dergi did not commit crimes and yet some want us to say that Erirea is blossoming, even the stones have changed to plants, full of life. These two groups are enemies with one thing in common: debilitating and stifling freedom of thought, not even an abstract thought at that

          • Rahwa T

            Good comment, Hayat,
            Regards,

          • Kokhob Selam

            I am still wondering if you really know it but you are going up to higher level every time. this is not just gained by chance. you must have been searching it and you are getting the way. Keep it up Hayata. you will still know the way on how to handle all those confusions of human beings which will convert you to complete love. Hey, but taking people up ward is not simple and you will have to be more flexible coming down to the stage of ordinary people and show them how dogmatism is killing them. because we are all affected with each persons weakness as we are one and the law is simple – everything is energy governed by law of attraction. all my love and respect to you.

          • Abraham Hanibal

            You see Semere, your fatile attempt to appease your TPLF mentoprs is going no where. You’re neither winning with the Ethiopians nor with the Eritreans. Your situation can be described as langa langa.

          • Abinet

            Selam Amanuel Hanibal
            I have been following your debate with my fellow ethiopians and Sem.
            You sound very worried that your “independence ” is going to be taken away from you.No Sir. Your independence was not given to you . You earned it through a very long struggle. So, don’t you worry about what the two people said . Remember you won against derg. RELAX my friend.
            I promise you we ethiopians will do whatever it takes to keep your independence intact.

        • Abraham Hanibal

          Your lengthy reply is nothing more than a bunch of lies. For the first, Ethiopia is not a fledgling democracy; it is a dictatorship disguised as democracy, Is it democracy to arrest individuals and journalists because of their political and religious convention? Is it democracy to summarily execute a demonstrating people? Is it democracy to displace people from their land only to sell it to foreign “investors” without duely compensating the people? I don’t think you don’t know the attrocities the Ethiopian government committed in Ogaden?
          By the way, you say you are an Eritrean, then why all this shameful defense of the undefensible? Many of us Eritreans understand well that we’ve a terrible situation at home; but that doesn’t mean that we’ve to exacerbate it by belittling it as much as we can. In fact if we are Eritreans, we’ve to focuss on how we can save our people from the tragic situation. We’ve to differentiate between PFDJ and the Eritrean people’s interests. You say that “the ethnic groups have the right to separete peacefully”, really? Why should then the Oromo and the Somali people resort to armed struggle; if they ccould cede peacefully without bloodshed? Do you really beleive that the Ethiopian people have accepted to be dominated by a minority group that puts its interests in the first place? Are you jocking or?
          Regarding our occupied territories; the situation has reached an internationally arbitrated conclusion. Sooner or later the land will be restored to Eritrea, the day when Eritreans manage to create a democratic, internationally accepted government.

          • Semere Andom

            Your comments can be destroyed in a heart bit, one by one. But I will focus on my identity: are you going to strip me my identity because I dared to tell the truth by calling your false inciting and brainwashing when you said that Eritreans have the power to dismantle the Ethio federation, a neighbour that is leaving Eritrea into the dust precisely because of the attitude you are showing off that lead us to where were are now.
            Defeating PFDJ cannot be complete without defeating the attitude that you are showing that is prevalent in some opposition members. You say you want to defeate PFDJ, but you cannot do that by keeping their attitude of arrogance, ignorance and the false aura of invincibility that was never an Eritrean trait before PFDJ took the helm. PFDJ’s removal can never be complete without also removing the lies you are nursing
            I said fledging, which means “baby” and this is the difference with this “baby” democracy and the country your former mentors built.
            Ethiopia arrested journalists and their version of G-15 but it did not bury them for 13 years and many are walking free and their where about were known.
            Ethiopia shot students like it happens in the fully functionary democracies but their leader did say we will investigate and did not say what IA said after the main Habar incident most likely you clapped as can be discerned from your attitude
            Do not call it we are going through some problems, we are in the brink of losing our country mainly because of this attitude of arrogance and lies.
            The TPLF the contemporary of EPLF/PFDJ killed people during their armed struggle but not like ours , they were not in a killing spree for pleasure, even the DEMHIT and opposing members accuse them of only betraying the covenant of “yekatit” and not murdering of their leadership who opposed. They cannot because there are living proof that TPLF sacked its opposition and did not murder like we did.
            We are not in the brink of collapse by God’s wrath and Ethiopia is not doing better because of their claim to the lineage of King Solomon, it is our past and it is haunting us and you cannot lie your way out of it.
            Instead of learning from their experience and what they did right you are telling us we can destroy their federation, while they are so smart and they are destroying our country ethnic group by ethnic group.
            Do I have to defend the shameful acts of my country and the very attitudes that led us here in the first place.
            About differentiation. I agree. I differentiate, not only that I differentiate even among PFDJ themselves, but I am saying, we the people for whatever reason we were complacent to buy into PFDJ arrogance that we can conquer the world, we are more brave than everyone. No we are not. We are neither more brave nor more coward than any people. So if war breaks between us it will definitely be carnage and bloody and will most likely end with Eritrea been defeated. Blame it in the math.

          • Abraham Hanibal

            What kind of truth did you tell? It is all lies and I’ve exposed it in my previous reply. I’ve not denied or confirmed what your identity is, that is not my business and I can never know. If you’re Eritrean, well we had lots of Eritreans in our history who were serving the interests of our adversaries, may be you’re one of them?
            Siding by the side of your people’s interests is not arrogance. The origin of my comments was the possibility of Ethiopia re-thinking its mind regarding our Independence. And I didn’t say other thing other than we would defend our right of self-determination. And this defence would include the aim of dismantling the fake federation. Whetther we would do this in matter of years or decades is another issue, but we’ve, at least the advantage that this fake federation is based on the domination of a minority ethnic group on the rest of the Ethiopian people. In addition to this, we’ve also the advantage that there already exist Peoples in Ethiopia who’re waging a war of self-determination. Why would we seek for the dismantlement of the federation? Because we cannot afford time and again to be threatened by a much bigger neighbour.
            As regards the capabilities of our people, just refer to history, it will provide you with ample evidence of perseverance and miracles by the Eritrean people on the wake of all adversities. Having trust in ones people is not a feeling of invincibility. It is obvious that the Eritrean people finds itself in a precarious situation, but this doesn’t break its resolve for safeguarding its hard-won Independence.
            At last if the Eritrean struggle for liberation was made of such hopeless and unconfident people like you, it would never have made it from the Mountains of Sahel.

          • dawit

            Dear Abraham,
            I totally understand your frustration with people like Semere in this forum who get headaches if any one spoke against the past or present attocities of Ethiopia against Eritrea. Your stand against PIA (DIA) is not good enough for them. you have also to stand against Eritrean independece to be accepted in their circle. They think HS and Derg time were the golden era of Eritrea following their mentor YG!
            Good luck with your stand
            dawit

          • Abraham Hanibal

            Dear Dawit;
            I would never accept in my wildest dreams to abandon my people’s interests. No doubt about this, and I’wd never aspire to be accepted in the circle of TPLF-agents like Semere. Why should I?

          • Semere Andom

            Hi dawit:

            With every comment you excel. You are self acclaimed fact seekers so can you provide readers on my denials on the crimes of these two? I commented bordering on the prolific about the heinous crimes of these two and I even even went further by saying they were aided by people like you who wanted to have it both ways.

            And most depressing part of this comment of yours is not even your lies, it is rather those who voted for these lies.

            Abraham you made my point, wearing the opposition garb you called an Eritrean who called your arrogance a TPLF agent and that is how it started when PFDJ made dissidents disappear by calling them TPLF agents when DIA and co lost the war they have started and these lies to mislead Eritreans must be also defeated along with PFDJ and prophets of lies otherwise we will end up in square one if this mentality falls through the cracks and makes it in free Eritrea. So how does your history work? We defeated them in 1991,they defeated us in 1998 therefore we will defeat them if the next war starts.

            The ganging up between someone who said he wants to see PFDJ removed(Abraham) and the prophet, who could not figure out why Eritreans are paying $40,000 to flee instead of investing it in Eritea to elongate their slavery is interesting to say the least.

            You should both old hands and dance tango to the following tune
            ልብኻ ውዕል ምስ ኣተወ ክይተዛርብካ
            ፍቅሪ ማዕዶ አይውዳእን ብጠጠውካ
            እቲ ሓደ ብውሽጢ እቲ ሓዳ ብግዳም
            ገለና ብብርሃን ገለና ብጸላም
            ነእትወላ ማሕለኻ ከይትረክብ ሰላም

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Salam bxay sem A
            ከምዛ ዘይነገርኩኻ ኣብ ጀበና ንራኸብ።

          • Abraham Hanibal

            Hi Mr. Semere Andom,
            Good poem, but this poem best describes you than those who side with their people come what may. There is basically no difference between people like you and the PFDJ-group. Both of you are bent on destroying the Eritrean identity, and integrity you are doing it indirectly by championing the TPLF and belittling the Eritrean people, while the PFDJ is doing it directly. I’m not calling you TPLF agent from nothing, but I base my claim based on your defense of the undefensible at the expence of your people. And don’t worry, post PFDJ Eritrea is going to have a full freedom of expression; no one would persecute you for saying this or that. Should you be accused for something, you would have the chance to employ a lawyer, and your case would be seen by a free court of law. You can continue fantasizing about your mentors in TPLF in future Eritrea, and nothing would happen to you, unless you would be found guilty by the free court for crimes that would harm the peace and stability of the Eritrean people. And I stress this would have to be proven by hard evidence, and decided by the free court after a fair trial.
            If you expect me to buy your nonsense regarding the fake TPLF democracy, and denounce my people, then you’re at a loss, that would never happen from my side, and I’m quite confident that you would never mislead any able-minded Eritrean with your false propagannda in service of your masters.

          • Semere Andom

            Mr. Abraham:
            No there reason am fighting for is for this reason. PFDJ is stupid and it will destroy itself, but in their wake people like you will do equal damage to our freedom of speech and liberty with the slightest dissent. If you are computer engineer you will crack our passwords, if you are a biologist you will isolate the gene that has more propensity to be brain be washed and abort those who are prone to independent thinking and you will be allied even with monsters like dawit to stifle that basic right. You descended to the gutter of insult that is a hall mark for a PFDJ supporters. Your ilk are here not to safe guard the sacred inalienable freedoms but because PFDJ did not allow you to the inner circles. Now PFDJ is my least worry. This slight dissent from the main stream wisdom that we are invincible tested your commitment to freedom. When did we see that before in our history. Dejavu. Mahmuday can tell you if he is feeling truthful today. In an independent court I will be more hero than you when I told you do not dwell on Isaiasique arrogance and tell the Ethiopians we can dismantle their federation. I am proud to come from a family of fighter like many of my generations, but when it comes restricting my mind to think what ever it wants responsibly even that pedigree does not matter.
            your Nitriccly logic of : we defeated them in our 30 year struggle, they defeated us in 1998 therefore now if they invade us it is our turn to defeat them, therefore we can destroy their country. You can worship your stories and the prophecies of dawit but they say mathematics does not lie and I do not mean it just population wise, the math also applies to the 23 years they were developing their country while we were collectively destroying ours. That is the cold hard truth. You need proof we are flocking to their country as if it the first world
            I rest my case. Good luck with your new alliance with the anti justice camp.
            Sem

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Sem,

            When you face with hard and inflexible individuals, you need the tactic “Asfil-Abilka Nay-Mikad”. B/c some of them enjoys confrontation. So don’t give them room for that.
            Hawka,
            Amanuel Hidrat

          • Semere Andom

            Thank for your advice Aman and I agree.
            I find it so unbecoming of someone who says he wants PFDJ removed and he is pro-justice. but so quick to call names such as TPLF agent and srtipes off ones identity. I do not want to imagine this people in Eritrea after PFDJ finally goes to its grave and these people using the messy system of democracy and complicating life and confiscating our liberty. Sovereignty for them belongs to the stones, trees and mountains and not to the human mind.
            The self-crowned sole custodian of Eritrean’s independence do not know that none of us commenting here have a say if future generations decides that we were so stupid (We= both Ethiopians and Eritreans) to wage two wars and unanimously carry their shovels to bury that Mereb River border or is that virtually demarcated border and reject wars, embracing peace, free movement where every Moslem is free to worship his/her religion. where every Pente sings to his God and so on. But these people are for the vicious cycle of violence and I can safely bet that they profit from it: “mosibete qomin ende qomin fowaEd”( some ones problems are some one else’s benefits)
            “we will destroy your fragile union’ is the off spring off DIA’s comment of “we know the details Ethiopia aviation capability” and that is what I abhor and hence the exchange
            Semere Andom: for a sovereign nation and a sovereign mind

          • Guest

            Are you telling us Semere A is the good guy here? It is so fascinating how unionists (hey, people here are free to label people PFDJiaits, as they please. I am just stating the obvious) look for one another.

            But at times you are confusing too. Look for instance at what your guy Semere A had to say earlier (help us decipher, will you?)

            This is in reply to Abrham:

            “…while they [woyanie] are so smart and they are destroying our country [Eritrea] ethnic group by ethnic group”

            Interesting, huh? Is that a slip or something? I guess he is not getting his pay slip from WOYANIE this round.

            On another comment he also said this:! “Ethiopia would be stupid to invade ERITREA and no Eritrean including this commenter [Semere A] would SUPPORT that”

            Pay close attention to the word ” not SUPPORT” , and tell me if that is a healthy reaction an Eritrean would display, if his country is invaded. Rediculos!

            Now compare that to the reaction of Abraham to his “IF” condition. He displayed his outrage and what he would do, as an Eritrean “IF ETHIOPIA INVADADED ERITREA” . Notice the if function here. Just like what the Ethiopian leader said: If ERITREA provoked us, we will Yada,yada,yada……to which you supported with a bravo and chebcheba . You feel me?

          • Abraham Hanibal

            Hi Amanuel Hidrat,
            When it comes to the right of self-determination and Independence of the Eritrean People, I’m very rigid, or hard and inflexible as you put it. If you and your “brother” Semere are expecting me to bargain on my solid belief, my message to you is don’t try, it is impossible. After followiing you in this forum for some time, I had the impression that you’re a balanced and reflective individual when it comes to the question of self-determination of the Eritrean people. But when I see you giving your backing to a person who’s preoccupied with the interests of the TPLF and degrading the interests of the Eritrean people I’ve to seriously reconsider my view on you. In case you want my political standpoint, I would like to put it in list form so that it would be easier for you and your compatriot Semere to see:
            I stand :
            – for the preservation of the hard-won Independence and self-determination of the Eritrean People
            – against the Isayas led PFDJ dictatorship
            – for a peaceful, democratic and just Eritrea
            – for peaceful co-existence with all our neighbors based on mutual respect
            – for the hasty removal of dictatorship in Eritrea, and for building of a constitutional, accountable government
            I think I can’t make myself more clearer. I do not send mixed messages, I don’t have to disguise myself with various identities, like what I’ve experienced with a number of participants in this discussion forum.

          • Hope

            Hello Abraham:
            I am back from a short but nice vacation from Europe. I was trying to chase Prof Tes but he chose to hide in his cave somewhere in Paris.
            I second to you and your stand. I hope Amanuel Hidrat will not put you in my list of ” Flip-Floppers and the Confused”!
            I love the way you hit things to the point based on facts and truth.
            But I appreciate it for making things crystal clear to him and Sem A.
            Guest—Keep it up.
            dawit-and Nittric–
            Check out things and come closer to Guest and Abreham
            Cousin Sem:
            Clarify yourself and your stand to avoid further “accusation” and bee stings.
            Prof Tes:
            -It seems like you are relapsing. Keep that name calling and arrogance to yourself and try to convince people in a mature and professional way as you have most of the “Facts” at your hand as a first -hand observer and a young ” Cadre Recruitee” of the PFDJ System.Learn from dawit the ” PFDJ/PIA” supporter…so .as to decently debate and counter-argue.Dawit definitely is more than a “Brainer’ and is entitled to his opinions and your home work is to convince him to make a legal U-turn….based on the facts on the ground but, on the same token, you have a moral obligation to forfeit his arguments based on the same “Facts and Truth” you have at hand.
            As to your bogus reaction to SAAY’s article, make sure you understand that there is a difference between “Real and Perceived FEAR:” and a perceived and GENUININE Concern”.
            Prof SAAY summarized in a nut -shell but in a very unequivocally convincing way leaving NO room for “Out -Rage Manufacturing and Criticism”, the real ” De Javu” of the Eritrean Disaster.
            We have to focus debating on the Solutions now, the sooner the better.
            Ustaz Aman Hidrat,
            I think it is time to debate on solutions, rather than an “Academia Style” criticism and “pickiness”.
            To the Ethiopians:
            Please,
            We welcome your constructive and supportive input.—–but since ,at times, you seem to cross the line, please:
            -try to be yourself and constructive and to be Good neighbors
            -try to do your home work
            -try to clean your house as much as we are trying to do ours(Sew ende betu inji ende gorebetu aynorim”——for now,we will live or survive “ende betachin”…
            -If you or your Leadership is threatening our Independence or even our very existence as a Nation and as a People,guess what?
            You know Eri people—and their history.—Irrespective of the situation we are in,we will defend in Unison our Independence under any circumstance or at any cost..and do NOT be relaxed/distracted by Haile TG’s -sensational arguments and propaganda.as he seems to have no clue about the Eri ..courage and gut.
            If you do not need us,we do not need you either. It is the era of Globalization.
            Just worry about your fragile “Federal System” and work hard to keep it stronger.
            Make NO mistake that,as usual, Eritrea and Eritreans will prevail and outshine…it is just a matter of time.
            This is my naïve opinion.
            N.B.
            Prof Salih Ahmed Abdu Younis:(aka: SAAY):
            As usual, kudos to you and may the Lord bless you.

          • Abinet

            Hope
            I laughed when I read ” this is my naive opinion ” . How true?
            Our leadership is not threatening your very existence . They outsourced it to IA long time ago .
            ” Eshohin beEshoh”
            How smart!

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Abraham,

            I commend you for having those stated stands. That was clear to me from your debate so far. But what you have to keep in mind is, that all justice-seekers surely have the same stand like yours. Once you recognize that, you don’t need to go to confrontational argument b/c it is unproductive in its nature. Sometime you make a perceptional argument. Perceptional argument is not always fact. Once we debate on perceptional issues we will never convince each other. I hope you will agree with me on this matter. If we agree on that, then I don’t see any difference between Semere and you on the five point you stated as your stand. What I saw differences between you guys is, that you have different perception on the current government of Ethiopia Vis-a-vis to our independence and sovereignty. On perceptional issues once one stated his perceptional intake, that is enough. There is no proof for perceptional issue until it becomes reality issue. Therefore, I don’t want you to bleed each other on perceptional issues. The current reality is not defined necessarily by past history, for each reality has its own definition by it self. So both of you are complimentary to each other from my reading so far. You are comrades in this struggle and keep it that.

            regards,
            Amanuel Hidrat

          • Abraham Hanibal

            Hi Amanuel Hidrat,
            Thank you for your words of encouragement, and reconciliatory approach.-)) The source of all the exchanges between me and Semere and the Ethiopians was my clear and unrwavering stance when it comes to safeguarding the Independence that the Eritrean People have aspired for centuries and paid for by their precious blood; though they’ve yet to harvest the fruits of their struggle. But I am afraid that Mr. Semere really belongs in the camp of justice-seekers with all the pro-TPLF, anti Eritrean rhetoric he is displaying with his comments.
            Otherwise I agree with you that we should not be spending too much time trading blames and counter blames at each other, though I’ve to say it was Mr. Semere who started the exchange, may be as part of his useless effort to appease the Ethiopian commenters, who were attacking me like wolves from all sides, just for speaking for the right of self-determination of the Eritrean People.
            Thank you!

          • Peace!

            Hi Emma,

            Really? Could you point out which part of the discussion seems to you confrontational?

            Regards

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Peace,

            Let peace be among us. And Ditto: my reply to Abraham.

          • Abraham Hanibal

            Hi Dawit;
            Well, I’m sorry but I’m a REAL Eritrean who has in mind the interests and well-being of the Eritrean People in the first place. I’ve no interest whatsoever to be included in the circles of these shady personalities.
            Eritreans; be ware of these psuedo-Eritreans that seem to represent the interests of the Eritrean people, but in reality are the right-hands of the TPLF-regime.

          • Semere Andom

            Hi Ab Hanibal
            The shady Eriteans , yes eto awsi yeblom adi yblom” are people running the country that you and I agree that they should be removed. Give a devil his due and I am doing that now as you many times over asserted this stand. The shady people are people like dawit your new found soul mate that are very clear that they support the PFDJ and the suffering of the people. I do not consider you shady but I consider you dangerous because of the hallow excessive pride and false aura of invincibility that you spread about the subject we debated vigorously and prompted you to strip me my God given and inalienable identity. I was chosen by Eritrea to be one its citizens like all Eritreans. If it was my choice, for sure I would not share my citizenship with people like dawit who mostly drives his hobby and pleasure from the suffering of my people by his constant and arrogantly concocted lies in defense and deference of the tormentors in Asmara, these are the shady personalities. But with increasing traits.

          • Abraham Hanibal

            In this reply I’ve first to thank Mr. Guest for bringing this very sentence that you put as a reply to my comment to my attention: “…while they are so smart and they are destroying our country ethnic group by ethnic Group”. So this means that you are so happy that the TPLFites are destroying us ethnic group by ethnic group? And you are giving them all the support for this marvelous achievment? Nothing says more than this particular sentence as regards to your evil wishes on the Eritrean People that you shamelesly claim to belong to.

          • Semere Andom

            First. basics of decency. To test this I read my whole comment to my dog and he understood it correctly and replied coherently. These kind of stuff is what I am talking about.Someone gives a timely, timeless and eloquent speech and contextually he says “tetelaqina” and you guys successfully disappear him for years based on lies. When, where did I say that I support TPLF’s smart way of destroying Eritrea ethnic group by ethnic group?

          • Abraham Hanibal

            Just refer back to your comment, after all it is your own words. If your dog can grasp your message, then how on earth you can’t?

          • Semere Andom

            show me the support you mentioned sir. If you cannot apologize. Simple

          • Abraham Hanibal

            Mr Semere Andom, your comment is basically a declaration of support of the policies of the TPLF. I don’t need to cite to you any portion.And when you brag of their smartness in such a way that they are destroying as ethnic group by ethnic group, that says it all. The people is our judje as who has to apologise.

      • Gebrekirstos

        “then we Eritreans are not only going to defend our Independence, but
        this time around, we’re going to make sure to dismantle your fragile
        federation into its entities, so that we can secure our Independence for
        ever.” Abraham Hanibal
        ሬጣጥስያ ዳዕሮ ይንቕንቕ! መጀመርታ ኤርትራ መዓኮራ ትሕሰስ (ሃገር ዘብል ነገር ይሃሉዋ) !

      • Hayat Adem

        If you were to be a leader, you would exactly make Isaias look better. You are neither defending Eritrea nor humanity. Your unnecessarily exposing Eritrea to danger. What is wrong with you people? How long do you want to fight? What is Eritrea for you: a fighting field? a refugee factory? a farm of pain and blood? When are we going to dream Eritrea as a field of flowering and happy life? When? You are even so nice to dream of doing bad things on others and you counted that as not “abandoning my people”? sei ko tee! neta afkha tetiHzelena ge’da!

        • Abraham Hanibal

          Mr. Hayat Adem;

          I don’t think you’ve read and understood the content of my comment. You’re portraying me as a warmongering blood thirsty individual, something which is utterly false. My comment is trying to address the situation that might arise if the leaders of the Ethiopian government would be tempted to reverse the Eritrean people’s legally concluded Independence. And this is based on the comments made recently by some influencial Ethiopian leaders about reconsidering the issue of sovereignty of the Eritrean people. If their sovereignty is threatened, the Eritrean people have the universal right of defending themselves. And I went further to state that the long run Eritrean defence starategy would include trying to dismantle the fake federation of Ethiopia, In that way, Eritreans would make a conclusion to any future threats that may come from any future Ethiopian leaders with imperialist ambitions on Eritrea. I’m looking at this as a part of the universal right of self-defense.

          The second and obviously more preferable scenario is if the Ethiopian government continues to respect the Eritrean people’s right of self-determination; there is no need whatsoever for Eritreans to engage in any form of hostilities with Ethiopia..They would in fact leave their doors wide-open for a peaceful, brotherly neighborhood, because they have had enough of death and destruction throughout their history resulting from various Ethiopian imperialists.

          • Hayat Adem

            The Ethiopians don’t believe at this time Eritrea can cause them a dangerous problem by being strong but by being weak. So lets save our bullets and save Eritrea from itself, my friend.
            Hayat

          • Abraham Hanibal

            I’ve never threatened Ethiopia, my answer was a reply to threats by some influencial Ethiopian leaders, of possibly reversing the status quo regarding the Eritrean people’s right of self determination. Nothing more. Do you expect that the Eritreans would welcome an Ethiopian occupation without using their universal right of self-defense? Ethiopia may be large, and more economically, and diplomatically strong; but that doesn’t mean that it has the right to undermine the sovereignty of the Eritrean People as regards to the way some of its leaders are starting to think. That is not how the world works anno 2014.. Now don’t preach me on the PFDJ; because I myself and my People are the prime victims of its failed policies, and we’re intensifying our defiance to its rule, though this difiance has to be persued at a much higher level of intensity. We would do this, in the first place to bring dignity to ourselves, but also to create an atmosphere of good and friendly relationship with all our neighbors, including, of course, Ethiopia.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Abraham Hanibal,
            .
            Sometimes someone presses the wrong button at the wrong time in us. We, to respond in kind, completely forget that we are in a public forum and make things worse.
            .
            I appreciate your subsequent mellowing responses to others and particularly to Hayat Adem. I know I am not doing her any favors but all of us should really read and reread her comments and advice.
            I myself am not as irritated as I was a couple days ago.
            .
            Thanks,
            K. H

          • Abraham Hanibal

            Thank you, dear Kim Hanna.
            Peace and prosperity to the Peoples of Eritrea and Ethiopia, and the horn of Africa in general!-))

          • Hope

            Kim Hanna,
            Would you be so kind to clarify things to Ms Fetima,Admas,Hayat and Abi-the way you correctly understood Abreham?.
            No matter how small they might be,Independent Nations are Sovereign States and they should be respected as such.
            If Cuba and Cubans have survived the temptations, the evil actions,threats,etc— the seemingly Giant Monester with its all kinds of threats and power show—short of using the Hiroshima style of atomic bombing,Eritrea and Eritreans will ,not only survive but will prevail and outshine….
            Why have you been so silent and even cheerful when your own government has been threateing and still threatening,btw,to change the Regime in Eritrea by any means possible–wild invasion included,besides attempting to dismantle eritrea based on region,Reliogion and Ethnicity.,which has been a public secret and an open Policy of Ethiopia.
            Your home,if youreally peace-loving Citizens,should be to lobby your own war-mongering leadership to respect Eritrea and Eritreans as a Ssovereign State and to work for a peaceful co-existence,rather than arguing with and insulting innocent Eris here.
            We all know that it was, and has been, the EPLF/the GoE,who has been supporting the unity of Ethiopia staunchly—far better than the the same TPLF,whohc is governing Ethiopia based on Ethnic based federalism after it failed to dismantle Ethiopia =–after the miserable failure of the Abay Togray Republic.
            If the same TPLF Gov will be further attempting and threatening to dismantle Eritrea thru Region,Religion,Ethnicity based politics and even by open invasion to reverse the Eri Independence,coz Eritrea is in “her weakest status”–in their onw words,,well,then Eritrea and Eritreans will use any and any method of defending itself under any circumstance by any means possible.
            And that is how I understood Abreham.—and that is the stand of the Majority of Eritreans irrespective of their political stand and difference except some “Unionists and Sell outs”.

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Hope,
            .
            Hope, my cousin Hope too,
            .
            You must be kidding!? I thought we were friends. Remember when your big cousin punching you for something minor, bloody nose and everything. Remember, I came to your aide. We dusted you off and you are here to fight another day.
            .
            You are now trying to return the favor by getting me into a cage fight with 4, mind you four heavy weights champs. I am an old man, have some mercy!.
            .
            I tell you what. I will make a deal with you. You stop calling Y.G, Hayat Adem and other Eritreans, Unionist, traitors and sellouts etc., when they are trying their level best to help the same people you are. You also promise to work hard to understand them by reading and rereading their debate points. If you do that then I will slowly walk into that cage. How about that for courage.
            .
            K.H

          • Hope

            Dear Kim my Cousin,
            Thank you for your response.
            I regret that you read me wrong.I am not here to fight but attempted to clarify things the way I see them and to state facts as they are.
            FYI:
            -Eritrea and Eritreans have every right to preserve their hard-won Independence under any circumstance and by any means when it is under threat- be it from the South or the North.
            -There are–definitely few ” Sell outs and Unionists” as they have been from the beginning,for which they are entitled to….as long as they say and they do it in the right way–not at the expense of other Eritreans.But I never said that YG,Hayat or others here are traitors based on their opinions as I respect their opinion
            -The real Traitors are the ones that made us to be in this situation–the PFDJ Gang/the Secret EPRP Party
            -We need to work for a peaceful co-existence and if you,Ethiopians, care about Eritrea and Eritreans,your home work should be to work with us constructively rather than belittling us and joking about us as Engineer Rodab lamented….but in reality what we see is that your own governement is working day and night openly and covertly as to how to keep us down and sanctioned besides boasting for keeping us hostages of theri destructive No War,No Peace Policy.
            The hypocrisy is that your governemnt is telling us onething and at the same time doing another thing.
            Haile Tg et al–are telling us that you are helping our refugees,when in fact ,you are making us to produce them due to your policy.

          • Hayat Adem

            Abraham, the only interesting element here is that you have been able to earn a vote from our great man Haile. Congra on that. The rest is just about nothing. Your assumptions are all false. Your assertions are all false. Your solutions are wrong and unrealistic.

            1) Thanks to the info from Emma, I listened to Sebhat’s latest interview. If there is anything to take from that interview, it is the reiteration of his commitment to the very principle of self determination. He even went further defending TPLF’s position to support Eritrean struggle was the right solution not just for Eritrea for Ethiopia as well. Remember, To worry EPRDF will back track on that principle while Ethiopia has extended this right of self-determination even to other nation-nationalities by officially instating article 39 in its constitution is irrational.

            2) If TPLF used to describe the Eritrean question as “colonialism” in relation to the past history with Ethiopia, then I would say it was wrong to define it that way. Nobody in the world says it was a colonial issue. TPLF would be a laughing stock to stand alone on this. EPLF used to see it that way. But PFDJ doesn’t refer to past Ethiopia as colonial power anymore. The West or the East never did. Colonialism involves race difference, economic exploitation, segregation, cultural domination…similar to what it looked like during the Italian time. Defining the Eritrean issue (in relation to Ethiopia) as colonialism and Eritrea’s aspiration for independence are two different things. The man we are discussing has no hesitation in his support of Eritrean independence as per the latest interview he made with VOA. If you were misled to believe as if there was a change of heart from EPRDF leaders by the author of the above article, I’ve already warned you not to be bought for a ride as a clueless creature attracted to a flowery expressions.

            3) Threatening requires actual capacity. You don’t have that and you can’t threaten anyone. You can’t threaten Ethiopia at this point of time even if you want to. Isaias was able to do that before and during the 1998. Then he lost that capacity forever. He tried to use many hands for attention. One time an ONLF attacked a Chinese mining camp in Ethiopia. Look where the onlf are these days. They are completely pit out of action and the safest place for them now is Eritrea. One time, the Isaias supported Afar group attacked a tourist camp. Ethiopia openly entered Eritrea thrice from two directions destroyed those camps, defeated Eritrean army units, took POWs and redrawn its red line and warned not to dare and try any attack. That last warning still holds. If Isaias with his power and army has run out of any card against Ethiopia, who are you to think you can threaten Ethiopia with an internet comment? Don;t make us laugh.
            4) The rooster mentality: a rooster has an amazingly exaggerated perception of HIM self so much so that whenever entering a room, he lowers his head a bit when passing the door line so that he is not hit by the above ceiling bar. He is thinking of a height of himself equaling a basketball player, Well, Abraham don’t you want to thinker better than a rooster?
            4) Ethiopia is now beyond reach for any maneuverability by small actors. She has hiked up to a higher ground and now breezing a purer oxygen than many in the neighborhood. Everybody is reading that reality correctly including the West and Egypt. The Dam seems to come as a magic act of a genius strike to solve its problem with Egypt. Instead of becoming a problem itself, The Dam is providing a solution for the long time problem. As Eritreans, that is a good lesson to learn from others that we have to be pragmatist and artful in maximizing our interests. Just last week, Egypt signed 21 trade and economic cooperation Acts with Ethiopia. Confrontation with Ethiopia must be avoided. The armed struggle for independence has been won but it was won so costly and the fruits of it ended up at the wrong hands, hence unable to transition itself to the next step. We can always preserve our independence better when we are not confrontational with Ethiopia and there is no need to be one. But we have everything to gain and maximize from cooperation. So when an Eritrean brags and barks to harm Ethiopia, it is not the possibility of it happening that may bother anyone such as myself, but the slackening effect it may have on us because some of us are eager to turn the page and see every single heart and mind of an Eritrean transformed and transcended to a better field of outlook so that everyone of us are ready to exploit all positive spaces and opportunities around us- inside and in the region.
            5) We better do it now: normalization and cooperation. We had better advantages to cooperate with Ethiopia before the war. Eritrea had equally or more competent man power, businesses, more developed infrastructure and better manufacturing sector. We lost that comparative edge and we have now fallen behind. I just wish to try to catch up before we turned to be South Sudan where every skill and service has to be outsourced to outsiders. We are losing every single day we are NOT in a normal business in the neighborhood. ኮፍ ኢልካ ትሰቕላሞ ደው ኢልካ ምውራዳ ትስእና ክይኑና ኣሎ።

            Hayat

          • Amde

            Wow Hayat that is great.

            I really want to support what you said on the dam specifically. It is a primarily a political dam, even if the potential income from it is nothing to sneeze at. A dam of peace that will transform Ethio Egyptian relations from competition to being co-stewards of the nile basin.

            This will be one major factor eliminated from making Eritrea a pawn of the geoplitical issues ofhers have.

            Amde

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hayat & Amde,

            The Issue of “Ethiopian colonialism” was debated in the rank and files of ELF fighters in the 70s and also in the second national congress of ELF in 1975. Since Eritrea was annexed (forced union) by Ethiopia, and we were challenged by the conventional description of colonialism, the second national congress of ELF defined the Eritrean case as “special colony” of Ethiopia. Now whether we agree on this definition or not, or whether we call it “colonialism” or secession”, it was a struggle for our “self-determination.” We fought with determination and courage for thirty years, and realized our aspiration to register a “sovereign and independent country” within the international communities. So I don’t see the need of debate for a closed case. Actually I believe this is the only way out for both countries to co-exist peacefully and cooperatively to enhance peace and prosper mutually. The other alternative is war, mutual destruction, poverty. So let us focus on how we will heal the wounds of war and live side by side peacefully. We know the dividend of peace.

            regards,

          • Kim Hanna

            Selam Amanuel Hidrat,
            .
            With all due respect, what does it mean? “….national congress of ELF defined the Eritrean case as ‘special colony’ of Ethiopia” . Therefore it is? It sounds like the recent debate you had on this forum about the definition of “weed out” in which you agreed as meaning dismantling a system. There is an Amharic adage that perfectly describes this phenomena. Something about a crow you want to eat by simply calling it chicken. The truth must be the foundation for everything to be built upon.
            .
            Special colony, my foot. These “colonized people” were running the country from the Palace, no less. It is so discouraging when it comes from people like you, sensible people that we want to follow.
            Good day.
            .
            K.H

          • Abraham Hanibal

            Hayat Adem;

            I will try to answer to your comment in your list of points:

            1-Regarding the recent interview of Mr.Sebhat Nega, I’ve to admit that I went a little bit further in the wrong direction as regads his position towards Eritrea’s self-determination though I didn’t claim explicitly that he was for the reversal of the Eritrean independence. As far as I understood it he was refering to the Ethiopian presence in Eritrea. He is claiming that the TPLF stance that the Eritrean questoion was an Ethiopian colonial issue, needed to be reviewed. In fact I never claimed that the Ethiopian presence in Eritrea was colonial, I had rather said that it was a matter of one African country illegally OCCUPYING another African countrys. According to what Sebhat said, he still believes that the Eritrean issue is a colonial issue (with regards to the Italian colonisation), and hence the AU (former OAU) decision of accepting colonial bordes also applies to Eritrea. But my reaction was also a response to Gebru Asrat’s position of trying to re-write history by rejecting and nullifying the colonial treaties between colonial Italy and Emperror Menelik regarding Eritrea’s borders. Gebru Asrat is not part of the Ethiopian government, but we’ve to remember that his war-die-hard group still exists, and that he still welds a considerable support in the Tigray region. This means that his influence cannot be neglected.

            As to your reference to the so called Article 39 of the Ethiopian constitution, I do not see it is worth more than the ink it is written with. The Oromo, Somali, Amhara, etc nationalities living under the burrel of gun of the TPLF are your best witnesses in this issue. To say that these nationalities accept to be ruled by the minority Tigray ethnic group is simply madness. If the Oromo, and Ogaden people do have the chance to decide on their fate freely without bloodshed, then why should they resort to arned struggle?

            2- I’ve included an answer to this one in point 1.

            3- You write “Threatening requires actual capacity. You don’t have that and you can’t threaten anyone. You can’t threaten Ethiopia at this point of time even if you want to.”. Well, there is nothing that best describes this claim than your own words “the rooster mentality”. Let alone a country that has a war-hardened population, almost everyone under the gun, and with weaponry ranging to modern war-planes; even a small guerrilla group has the capacity to threaten a given country. I think you need to come out of your Dergue mentality which felt it could win over Eritreans overnight. Having said this, I’m not placing a threat for the sake of threat, I’ve repeatedly said this is as a response to any eventual Ethiopian invasion. Hayat Adem, are you really that foolish to believe that the Eritrean people would accept any invaders with buckets of roses?

            4-Regarding those issues of co-operation, you’ve my full backing. but I’m afraid we’ve a huge homework to do first. That is we’ve to remove tyranny and reclaim our freedom and independence from our home-grown dictators. Because as long as we’ve this menace in our country, it is neither good for us nor for a peaceful co-existence with our neighbors. By the same token the Ethipian government need to respect the rights of its citizens and establish a real democracy. Once the peoples of Ethiopia and Eritrea succeed in bringing real democracies, then they would receive unlimited benefits from mutual co-operation, and they could play a substancial role in the development of the whole horn of africa region.

          • Abinet

            ” dismantle ethiopia” . You sound like Ali Salim. He said some months ago ” the best thing for eritrea is a disintegrated ethiopia”. You are a good student . I am dying to know who is doing the dismantling for you . The old people left in eritrea or the young people in the refuge camps? The diaspora ? I don’t think so. They are busy washing toilets ( your description ) . The pfdj? No. They are busy stealing and trafficking .
            However, I have good news for you . When you were fighting the colonizers, all ethiopians were against you ( except tplf) . This time around you have all ethiopians behind you to keep your independence . No need to dismantle ethiopia to keep eritrea intact . Talk about a win, win situation ! I hope you feel better now.

  • Peace!

    Dear Sholla,

    There are two major reasons as to why Tigray, not Ethiopia, needs Eritrea: Frist, the port of Massawa is located only few hours from the Tigray region, and second, Eritrea is a backdoor for our Tigryan cousins, in case the oppressed Oromos and Amharas managed to drive the current dictator out. With that in mind, the issue is not about Ethiopia, but it is about the future of Tigray people. And make no mistake the Tigryan elites understand that they are minority and cannot dominate Ethiopian people forever. I totally understand their concern.

    regards

    • sholla

      even tigraians are not interested, do not you read Ethiopian news, they are connecting tigray with Djibouti by a rail, with dry ports in different locations all the way to tigray, what does this tell you? this is simply our long term economic plan is not including eritrean ports and proved ourselves that eritrean ports are not more important than that of djibouty or mombasa etc, your ports are not that important for our economy growth, so thanks but no thanks your ports are out of our economic equation, also the great people of tigray will n’t be interested to deal with a people and government that wants their demise.
      ato piece in my belief there will not be any economic or good neighborly relationship with your new country and mine atleast not in this generations life time, because there are lots of unfinished business between us other than the ports.
      chears

      • Peace!

        Dear Sholla,

        Excellent points and of course a sound strategy although the main issue is not logistics rather it is sustainability and affordability as far as the development of Tigray is concerned. However, the issue with that is Tigray elites and Eritrean Unionists don’t seem to have confidence on that, probably Ethio news is not doing enough in helping those people to have confidence and let the Eritrean oppositions group do its job. And as for the unfinished business, would you mind elaborating?

        regards

  • Abraham Hanibal

    Mr. Sholla;

    I’m just sending a reminder to anyone in Ethiopia who might feel the temptation to re-invent matters in Eritrea. Because when it comes to our Independence, we Eritreans are willing to guard it furiously by all means. As they say in Tigringna it is like መምሃሪ ኣይግበርካ: መምሃሪ ግን ኣይኽላእካ. As you’re pointing it out, we hope the Ethiopian leaders take a lesson from history and never try to repeat previous blunders.
    And if it happens that Ethiopia wants to re-write history, then we Eritreans are not only going to defend our Independence, but this time around, we’re going to make sure to dismantle your fragile federation into its entities, so that we can secure our Independence for ever. You know well that your fragile federal system is at the mercy of the US and other western aid?

    • Fetima Dechasa

      Abraham Hanibal,

      As the saying in Amarigna, ዶሮ ታማ በግ ታረደላት።

      “but this time around, we’re going to make sure to dismantle your fragile federation into its entities, so that we can secure our Independence for ever. You know well that your fragile federal system is at the mercy of the US and other western aid?”

      First thing is first… emancipate yourselves from your own physical and mental bandage before all the አካኪ ዘራፍ፦ Ironically, a large percent of your population is at the mercy of Western aid. All this trash talking and threats based on an hypothetical boogyman just can’t be life. Pot meet Kettle.

      • Abraham Hanibal

        Which country is at the mercy of foreign aid is not a secret. A very quick search on internet reveals that Ethiopia is the country that recieves the largest portion of forein aid to Africa. And by world ranking Ethiopia is the third largest recipient of aid. In the year 2012 for exampple, the country recieved $3,3 billion. So you can just imagine how Ethiopia would survive without such a spoon feeding and special treatment from the West.

        • Fetima Dechasa

          Abraham Hanibal,

          So what? How is that any of your business? What does your need to rant and rave about aid say about you? Is this to discredit our accomplishments in order to conciliate your own insecurities?

          I’m too grown, well raised, and too secure with my personal accomplishments as well as my country to stoop to your level. I’m not going to talk badly about your country or people to make me feel good about myself. Besides, I do not share similar antipathy or disdain towards you. But let me reassure you of this, your threatening words are as scary as a kittens meow. I think the endless mantra of pseudo vainglory have you feeling invincible and inebriated with delusion to the point where you start to believe in your own hype. Nevertheless, talking reckless like this is a reflection of your own insecurity as a person than your conviction as a man. Yeah… keep knocking on the devils door long enough though, and someone will answer.

          Moreover, if some of you placed as much energy in to Eritrea as you do Ethiopia, I’m quite certain that Eritrea would’ve been in a different position by now. The manifestation of the victim mentality, insecurity, mental bandage, hatred, ill will, and lack of accountability have crippled your capacity to function as productive citizens of the world. Instead, you throw rocks from a distance and take cover.

          አይጥ ወልዳ ወልዳ የደመት ሲሳይ አደረገቻቸው። አሉ

          I will however do me a favor and excuse myself from this dull-witted exchange.

          • Abraham Hanibal

            Hi Fetima;
            Please refer to my reply to Mr. Admas above, because I neither have the time nor the interest to reply to every nonsense TPLFites come up with.

      • Crocus

        I just cannot stop laughing. I must admit that one of the things I always enjoyed coming across on this website is the many adages (teret) commenters include in their writings. It captures a thought succinctly without the need for verbosity. Yet, it catches me by surprise when I encounter one that had not seeped into my head yet. “ዶሮ ታማ በግ ታረደላት” is one of them. Mind you, I have access to over 700 adages!
        Good going!

        • Fetima Dechasa

          Dear Crocus,

          Sometimes teret teret and Sem ena Werk are the only way to express exact feeling. ምን ለበለው ታዲያ እንደዚ ሲያወራ፧

    • Kim Hanna

      Selam Abraham Hanibal,
      .
      Sir, if the only way you feel secure of your independence forever is by wishing and praying for the disintegration of Ethiopia, you have a long wait, maybe forever.
      What it reveals about you, however, is how warped your core belief is. I hope you are not one of those advocating economic integration at another time and place. It makes me wonder.
      K.H

      • Abraham Hanibal

        Hi Kim Hanna;
        I’m not wishing or praying for the disintegration of Ethiopia. I’m saying that should the current Ethiopian leadership fall to the temptation to change the status quo regarding the Eritrean Independence, then we Eritreans would be forced to persue a goal of dismantling your already loose federal system. Because we cannot keep having to guard our Independence time and again from expansionist entities occuring now and then in our southern big neighbor. In that way we can secure that no future Ethiopian gvernment would threaten our Independence.
        But if Ethiopia respects our Independence and free choice; our door is wide open for all-sided co-operation on the basis of good neighborhood and mutual respect.

  • Hayat Adem

    Disappointingly,
    this article entirely deals with the “the hows” (the approach, the style and
    the treatment) of events, saying little about the very essence or the character
    (the whys) of the regime vis-à-vis its political constituency. More questions
    should be pointing into why went to war with Ethiopia than how we mishandled
    the post crisis; to why we attacked Djibouti than how it was handled later. The
    same is true with al-Shabab and all the consequent UN entanglements. Shokhrtet
    gual megedi!

    • Mahmud Saleh

      Hayat;

      The article’s scope is limited to showing why and how Eritrea ended up sanctioned, the key word is sanctioned. The article, it seems to me, is not written to analyze the conflicts or their causes. It’s them is the stupidity of our leaders or in short our leader. The beef: “There is no clearer demonstration of how uniformly stupid Eritrea’s foreign policy (and, for that matter, its domestic policy) is than to refer to the background that led to Eritrea being placed under United Nations sanctions. The 2009 sanctions on the Eritrean government did not descend from the sky; nor are they indications that the world is “not fair.” They are the consequences of Eritrea’s dealings with UN vis-à-vis Ethiopia, Somalia and Djibouti.”

      I will help you though, so here we go.
      Why? because they are “uniformly stupid.” There you go, Saleh answered it.
      Why they are uniformly stupid? Because we didn’t notice or didn’t care to notice the variables, we did not brave to correct obvious errors in values of the coordinates, the pattern continued uniformly; we got used to it; we internalized it, and so no learning curve. Just flat out line. Worse, we were cheering up our leaders for blunders they have been committing in front of our eyes. Am I wrong? That’s if your location is north of Adigrat (cheers), it’s not mine that’s where Nitrikay google map or ጎልጎል ማፕ locate you. And that part of the world is tricky. Nitrickay could be wrong. That area has been treacherous for driving cars or donkeys; it has been changed so many times by Harbegna Wayanay ምጥራር that people who depended on Nitrikay maps have been ditching their cars in Mereb river.
      If you are to the South of that location then do your citizenry duty. Blunders occurred on both sides of the river with regard to the war. I have done my part. And I am doing it at this moment. I am saying ” Enough PFDJ!” The article shows the reader how stupid our leaders are and by extension it’s stimulating the governed to think hard, it’s trying to persuade the doubter. It also proposes a way forward. So, Hayat, no article is complete, but I think this is an exceptionally brilliant showcasing of how stupid our leaders are..

      • saay7

        Mahmuday:

        I know you are writing an article (can’t tell you how excited I am to read it.) I have a theory and I would like you to consider and, given your long experience with the EPLF, to expand on. Here’s my theory: any policy that is developed by an EPLF/PFDJ committee is often well thought out* and anything that springs from the head of Isaias Afwerki alone is almost always (if not always) bone-headed. Here are some examples of actions developed or carried out by the EPLF which are well thought out and defensible:

        1. Commission on definition of citizenship
        2. Commission on land reform
        3. Commission on provincial re-org
        4. Commission on National Service
        5. Constitutional Commission of Eritrea
        6. Referendum commission of Eritrea
        7. Commission on Political Orgs and electoral laws
        8. Commission on macro Econ policy
        All of these from memory; I am sure I can add ten more

        Contrast this with all the unilateral decisions Isaias took that even his ministers were not aware of (Hanish War, Djibouti tension, Badme War, djibouti II, people’s army, new constitution…)

        Saay
        * well-thought-out meaning consistent with the political ideology of EPLF/PFDJ as opposed to I agree with them. I should call this the Sem-Emma Amendment because they own an Outrage Manufacturing shop and they are outraged by everything.

        • Semere Andom

          Ha ha Sal:
          “Outrage Manufacturing”,Just one line. Haram Alieka. I am counting, Testestron debating Club, Qeshis Qeshi , “degmawian Andnet”, afflicted with the syndrome of Dan (Discussions about Nothing). Questions for you, what does this make you 🙂
          Sem-Emma

          • saay7

            Baw! Wed abuye Andom:

            Testosterone debating club? And I quote “DiHri selefa entay terefa!” Remember?
            Qeshis qeshi. Yre’ko wo ye-samaEko.
            Dagmawi Andnet. Absolutely. Yg, Gy, and a few others on FB
            Discussions about nothing (you came up with the acronym): the know-thy-enemy Lenin advice gone wild 🙂

            I think we already established that what that makes me and people like me is people with artificial identity given to us by Italian colonialist who are most likely Islamist, or did you forget?

            saay

          • Semere Andom

            Hi Sal:
            Queshi Qeshi, maybe I mixed it up but you had this name for Yg Qeshi Qeshi something?
            Dihri Selfa entay terefa, Not true. No one said that here. Dr. Saba may subscribe what? 😉
            About the Italians, it is befitting because Italians are Romanticos as well, but that was not what I was thinking, sorry I am “daning”;-)

        • Mahmud Saleh

          ሳልሕ፡ ክንድዚ ኮምሽነራት ነይሮምና ድዮም? ወይ ዓደይ! “እቲ ሰብኣይ” ደቂ ኣስመራ ብፍላይ ከኣ ደቂ ሹቕ ጥራይ እዮም ክፈልጥዎ ዝኽእሉ። I don’t think you will crack that open using conventional methods. You remember what he said to MBA holders (ጋርካ ሳልሕ!), well, he appears to be tired of you guys. He calls intellectuals hoping they will act like meraHti mesarE, but like the saying goes በዓል ኣመል ኣመሉ ኢሓድግ ወ ደብር ኣካኑ our muhurat come up with complicated drafts and act aloof. So he dismisses them.
          ***He has his parallel policy manufacturing circle (very small one which is comprised by him and a couple who have internalized his thinking), the rest is a show. I would explain it as fake circus for public consumption that goes overlapping and disguising the real one. When the shows use has ended, he shut it off, and the real one becomes visible.
          But he is still looking for another commission. The constitution is to be drafted. If you could act like him, of course, no eye contact; he doesn’t like that. Eyes -45 degree down to the ground, act sheepishly, and clap a lot, even before he starts saying ዝኸበርክምን ዝኸበርክንን/”ሓይሳም ወሓይሳም”( tigrayet error is his). So, the position of another commission is available.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Selam Saay,

          Haram Aleika brother. Really “outrage manufacturing shop”. At least you spare us from calling us “Unionist.” We will live with that – doing outraging cry when we see an outraging proposals.
          regards,
          Sem-Emma

      • Hayat Adem

        Mahmud,
        Since I like you for the niceness and levelheadedness you display during your many interactions here nearly all the time, I will forgive you for whatever was playing in your mind in reference to the north of, south of Adigrat thing. And remember, I am declared immune to your Nitrickay. But, I am fine with the most of your take, and I’ll gladly register my difference (mostly on emphasis) on few points
        regarding your views of the article under discussion.
        1) I really acknowledge the super penning skill of the writer of the article, and that is part of the problem here. He, many times, uses it to conceal his quarrel with facts, commonsense and logic, and he does that effortlessly with flavored expressions, and chances are you are in for a ride to a wrong direction. The language beauty can make your wrong ride painless temporarily but nonetheless, wrong is wrong, and you will eventually feel the pain. No amount of writing skill is hardly good enough to give life and sustain untruth.
        2) Let’s see few examples of these and we can start from the start. The 1st line in the article says: “You could spend a lifetime marveling at the criminality of the Eritrean government, if you were not so awestruck by its stupidity.” You have a very good summary here as to where the intention of the entire message of the article anchors. You can’t miss the writer here. This is a very subtle expression of implying that whatever PFDJ criminally is caused by its stupidity, while the reiverse is more accurate. Then, we are told and advised to be amazed by the magnitude of the stupidity and we are provided with a long list of them. When we characterize the behavior of a leader or leaders in the realm of stupidity, it becomes about capacity and competence; when it is in the realm of criminality, it becomes about their essence and character. The first is curable with some work of addressing the
        capacity gap, with some work of reform…there you go – the evergreen catchword of this writer- REFORM. But if you recognize the hard criminality of the leaders and the organization they lead, you would never prescribe “reform” as a roadway to salvation. Let me say this for a record: PFDJ are criminals beyond reform and the panacea is removing them.
        3) The writer has gone to a great length to show us the stupidity of, mainly of Isaias and his tightest circle resulting in Eritrea could communicate well to and with the world. He defines Eritrea to mean Isaias for the purpose of this of his article (he thinks it is Isaias and his stupidity, and not the PFDJ nor its criminality, that are now causing pain to Eritrea), and by that he meant Isaias has been badly communicating and ex-communicating powerful world actors who are haunting him back. Wait a minute, was it a year ago, or slightly longer (and he repeated it a couple of times later), when this same writer was squeezing our brain skulls to recognize Isaias for his superb communicating skills!? That is always the problem when you are at divorcing mood with the facts: gaps here, gaps there!
        4) Mahmud, when you are able to say PFDJ is responsible for igniting the war in 1998, you will be recognizing their criminality and responsibility for the pains inflicted consequently. Why would it matter if the five (US, UN, OAU, Alg and EU) were really “guarantors” or really “witnesses” in the time the APA was signed? You said, to show how Eritrea got here, sanctioned. Right. But, why is that important now? In fact, Eritrea should have been sanctioned for many different things that one wonders it got lucky to be spared with only one. If the Eritrean people were able to sanction the regime, they would have done it more punitively. The criminality of the regime internally is much more intense and darker than what it committed externally. It takes some level of criminal mind to commit so many crimes and blunders in a life of a couple of decades as a government.
        5) Criminals are rarely stupid, but if they are they are only stupid in terms of perfecting their criminal acts, which should interest the general public’s curiosity (save crime professionals) at any urgency level when a lot is happening including an exodus. Never judge criminals in terms of normal worldly standards, like in this article, as in “if only they played it well, if Ethiopia didn’t convince the UN to redefine the guarantors as witnesses, or if they communicated with diplomatic etiquette and tones, and in time instead of, if they allowed Mr. X instead of…”
        6) The five are just the five who observed the signing of the APA. Eritrea kept on mentioning them as “guarantors” and Ethiopia as “witnesses”. Ethiopia was right because that is what they were/are.How else do you call them if the agreement itself says: “witnessed by [all five]”? That is the only reference there is to it as to the roles of the five.There was nothing mentioned inside or outside that document as guarantors, nor was any mention of the word unless the writer wants to talk about his own imagined interpretations. Therefore, there was nothing the UNSC could be convinced or unconvinced for/against to define and redefine such provision except listening to any wish-driven versions of either side. But again, the writer felt the burden of showing it but how do you show and explain stupidity of a
        leader if there was none? Well, you go on blowing the balloon and follow wherever
        it flies to. That was a nice aimless and senseless acrobat. There was no chance
        for even a reformed and clever PFDJ to have it interpreted as guarantors or a
        stupid Weyane to lose it and be interpreted as “witnesses”.
        7) The writer wanted to say something about the conflict between Eritrea-Djibouti. What PFDJ did was the same criminality pattern it did before on the rest of the neighbors: it attacked and denied. How do you ever accuse the PFDJ of mishandling the issue without caring to question the illegality of the attack itself? How else well could a clever PFDJ handle a broad daylight crime of such a nature? A serial killer commits crimes of murder the way he had it planned for the event, and handles the consequences as they come depending on all the reactions, pressures he is faced with and his instincts and his perfected habits during such situations. It would be absurd for normal people like you and me to discuss how better the criminal could have done the crime of murder, and get away with it. would it not?
        8) Don’t bother, Mahmud, I’ll spare you from the Somalia and al-Shebab….
        Hayat:

        • haileTG

          hey Hayat,

          This is a well thought out critique. It could have been better presented directly to saay, but I am sure he has noted it and he would likely give a viva of his thesis based on your detailed examination. Such exchange would be a welcome distraction from the cross-border doge balls being played on the other threads between our fraternal peoples…. hmmm, phew!!! I am out 🙂

        • Nitricc

          Hayat the Eritrean Muslim woman from Deep in Adi-grat! Lol, I am going to have a word with my friend Mahmuday. I have no idea why he replays to a falling tree on the forest, no clue. Incase you are wondering that is what you have come to be. You can not insult Eritrean’s intelligence. you are here to defend the TPLF and your Tigray.
          You don’t have to write ten pages to tell us that the Eritreans started the war. of course Eritrea started the war. of course Eritrea got her independece becouse of TPLF. we know, you told us. now you are wondering why SAAY is preaching us how we mishandling the out come of the war. I understand you got to earn your living and you got to paint the cutest picture of your handlers but come on, a little respect. After all this web site hosted you with dignity in spite of your deceptive and curl comments and the least you could have done is addressing SAAY by his name instead of as “the author”. And then, I understand, once dedebit, is always dedebit. Now, forget this nonsense; how is Adi-Grat? I heard there is electricity problem? I thought you guys are selling electricity to Sudan, Kenya and De jubity. Hahahah. nice! i am up voting you i don’t joke with earning a living.
          Anyway my gift to you. here is your leader making it big 80 something years ago.
          https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B1gNmDZCYAESiCT.jpg

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Dear Hayat,
          You are a subtle reader to languages concealed with flavored expressions. Really you are. Here are a summary note from your well thought and constructive critique as lessons for those of us who have open mind.
          1 – People sometimes do engage in a subtle divorcing mood with the facts.
          2 – Warning – No amount of writing skills is hardly enough to give life and sustain untruth.
          3 – The language beauty can give us wrong ride painlessly temporary, but nonetheless wrong is wrong, and eventually will feel the pain.
          4 – Criminals are rarely stupid, but if they are, they are only stupid in perfecting their criminal acts.
          5 – It takes some level of “criminal mind” to commit so many criminals.
          6 – Never judge criminals in terms of normal worldly standards.
          7- If you recognize the criminality of a leader (a system) you should never prescribe “REFORM.”
          I hope awatistas will take these notes as a general lessons without relating to ” the actors on this debate”. Because to whom ever is addressed, they are addressed to all of us.

          regards,
          Amanuel Hidrat

        • Mahmud Saleh

          Salam Hayat,
          I’m glad you guessed the purpose of nitrikay maps. It was meant for warming you up; and here you have rolled out with interesting points. The points you raised, in and of themselves, would be more interesting when applied in domestic policy matters. I restricted my earlier reply based on what I thought the purpose of the article was. Rarely two instructors will mark any give essay the same way leading to identical score.
          Thanks for your well thought input. And don’t worry about nitrikay, he is doing his thing; we will have our little session when he is available. One of his observations is valid though. I’m disappointed that you chose not to mention the Author by his name. Another disappointment: Hayat, if we don’t give credit to folks who have paved the way for us, we won’t have followers. Saleh (no special relationship with him) has been in the out writing about the criminality of the regime. He is a well known victim whose public recognition and position is helping the investigation of this criminal regime.
          Thanks.

  • Abraham Hanibal

    It needs to be made clear to Sebhat Nega, Gebru Asrat, or whoever might think to reverse the Eritrean Independence. Though we’ve not yet got the chance to harvest the fruits of our hard won Independence because of the tragedy of the Isayas group, we Eritreans have drawn a very clear red-line as regards our Independence. Because of our current unfortunate situation, some quarters in Ethiopia may be tempted to re-invent history, and our message to these elements is don’t try, you’re doomed to fail like in the previous history. Our Independence is an irreversible conclusion, and we’re as always ready to defend it at any cost.

    I think the current Ethiopian leaders are not foolish enough as to try to undo the Eritrean Independence. Any such step is going to have an adverse and horrific effect on the current state of affairs of Ethiopia. If they want to turn Ethiopia away from the course of development to destruction and disintegration; then they might try to challenge the Eritrean Independence.

    ነዞም ብጠጠዎም ዝሓልሙ ዘለዉ ግለ ሰባት ኢትዮጵያ፥ በጃኹም ተሓጺብካስ ናብ ጭቃ ኣይትግበሩዎ ክንብሎም ንደሊ።

    • haileTG

      Hello Abraham,

      It may be best to keep an open mind at this stage and not fall into trap. In an ideal case scenario, an Eritrean in Eritrea can “investigate the claim that the Eritrean case was a colonial case”, an African scholar can investigate too, an European scholar can do so too. These are not threats or provocations. Arming tens of thousands and giving them the key to the national weapons depot, to attack and wreck havoc in another country is provacation and that is THE REAL assault on Eritrea’s independence. What is before us is the task of apprehending a home bred menace. Its attempt to ignite anarchy in the country by arming civilians has failed and is now desperately provoking external war. We need to be extremely careful at this time of our history, because the regime is really dead for all practical purposes.

      • Abraham Hanibal

        Mr. Haile TG;
        I don’t hesitate to agree that we’ve a home grown menace in Isayas’s PFDJ. And I’m one of those who would like this menace removed in a split-second. The PFDJ has indeed weakened our ability to defend and preserve our hard won Independence. But this doesn’t mean that we would let any outside force undo our Independence,.because that is a sacred issue for us, just like all other sovereign nations. Gebru Asrat has made it clear that he would like to see the Eritrean Independence undone. And considering that he has some support within Ethiopia is a worrying issue, similarly it seems that Sebhat Nega is trying to reconsider the matter. Taking into consideration the vulnerable situation we are in, the number of those Ethiopian leaders having a second thought about the issue may increase by the day. This means that we’ve to remain vigilant, despite our tragic situation at home.
        Regarding whether the issue is colonial or not, in my opinion yes the Eritrean matter was, just like many other African countries, an issue of European colonialism (Italian colonialism). And therefore it needs to be treated the same way as all other African nations. Regardiing the issue with Ethiopia, it was not colonial, but it was a matter of one African country illegally occupying another African country.

        • Semere Andom

          Hi Ab Hanibal;
          Do not forget that there are some people in “independent” Eritrea that want to be part of Ethiopia and these group of people are called PFDJites. Never mind the obscenity they exude when insulting Ethiopia, deep inside they do not care abut Eritreans.
          Consider the following:
          Literally before the blood of those who died to bring EPLF to power dried IA said in 1993 to the effect of “now that we secured our sovereignty borders are irrelevant and we can now think about confederation with Ethiopia”
          The Eritrean Mieda was more than capable of handling more than one vanguard organization, it was good for Eritrea if EPLF had the desire for a truly free, independent Eritrea. I do not mean to go back to that ELF/EPLF debate but Eritreansim was decimated when EPLF slept with TPLF to push out ELF. I know even the former ELFites ignore this fact by calling it past and it is history but if you do not study history goes the saying. Then when EPLF was lefet alone in the field unchallenged and saddled the power in May 1991 over the bones and bodies of our brothers, they murdered and defeated Eritreanism. There maybe the gullible toiling and moiling under PFDJ by repeating the mantra of “ezi ewin khalif eyu’ oblivious that “ksab zhalfi kehlifom mukanu”
          Early on IA was confidently dining and wining in Asmara with Haile Slassie while his organization had no clout to guarantee his safety
          The killing spree that PFDJ/EPLF was involved to eliminate Eritreans, both civilian and fighters, many of whom were never a threat to their survival.
          Look at IA inner circles, Two Yemanes, Kasa, Kisha, personalities with shady past and non natives, while the natives have been systematically eliminated. People are worried about YG and GY while the threat to Eritreanism and Eritrea lurks inside Eritrea, literally wrecking havoc
          People who fought obsessively to defeat Ethiopians and I am not talking about just the armed struggle, but in the cities civilians took the risk to defeat degi and they paid for it. Eritreans under the belly of the dergi were able to collaborate with their tegadalti brothers and free prisoners, rob banks assassinate “tser-sewra”. Everyone fought the Ethiopians even the baristas, the farmers and students fought the injustice. Now as I said before all the prions where 10,000 Eritreans are languishing and dying off every day, all the guards are “Eritreans” and in the last 13 years no Eritrean helped a prisoners to escape. There is something disturbing about this thought and the sacred issue of independence you mentioned is has now been raped by PFDJ and that is worrisome. Injustice is injustice whether it is perpetuated by your brother or your neighbor and so far we have collectively and colossally failed to vigorously fight injustice

        • haileTG

          Mebrhaba Abraham,

          I am of course 100% with you on PFDJ and IA. I always felt that Eritrean independence is secured by the will of the people more than anything else. If millions of Eritreans are evidently for it, it would be foolish to assume that anyone would ponder a generalized offensive to invade and gobble up the country. But, why is such talk being ratcheted up now (not from you but the IA
          regime itself). The regime mouthpieces have heightened thier extreme foul mouthing of the Ethiopian ruling group, the regime itself is going to as far as fabricating defection news and spreading war hysteria and “defending Eritrea by any means necessary” is its mantra as ever, as it digs in the nation further down its miseries. Recently few things happened that would make
          you look at the topic of Eritrean independence:

          1 – The people in Eritrea have finally rejected mobilization. This is a dangerous form of rejection because they aren’t trying to debate its validity but simply saying no more.

          2 – Eritrea’s right to self defence is curtailed for the foreseeable future by international sanctions

          3 – Ato Gebru wrote a book about stuff he said some 4 or 5 years ago and had it in his party manifesto. And Ato Sebhat is of the view that his previous views of “colonial” designation might warrant academic re-evaluation.

          4 – Close to 200 people per day are abandoning Eritrea and Ethiopian and Sudanese refugee camps are overflowing.

          For me #1 is the most severe threat, because it tells you that there is no credible entity in Eritrea that can organize national defense. PFDJ has lost credibility and can no longer mobilize the people and the only likely scenario is that pockets of nationalist resistance forces would engage in running battles in the event an external force enters the scene. PFDJ would be the first to fall and leave the country to fend for itself. As we speak, it has already lost most of the vital state controls in the economy (currecy), political, military (sanctions and embargo), and social (mass migration). With its latest failing to mobilize despite spreading Ethiopian invasion card, it has exposed the nation in the worst form imaginable.

          #4 is the second more sever risk and the reasons are obvious.

          #2 is the next severe one in as far as it reinforces the issue in #1, i.e. PFDJ has lost control of mobilizing and lawfully procuring deterrent capability.

          #3 is the least and most inconsequential, except that it has become the only crying rally PFDJ can hang on to after it has been left with no other card. Again, Eritrean independence is secured by the will of the people and there is not much we can show off other than that because PFDJ has successfully disintegrated any conceivable support we could lean on if we were ever to be
          threatened in that way.

          So, I agree with you that our nation is in dire straits but not from Op-Ed columns of Ethiopian politics but from the major internal crisis of a PFDJ going wild.

          Regards

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Selam Hailat,

            The four point you listed as a political phenomenon displayed recently in the Eritrean political landscape are good observations on your side. From the four points the most dangerous to the survival of our nation is # 4 (mass exodus). The mass exodus will put or expose our nation to all kinds of imaginable risks, if it continue unabated. The second , which is not in your list, will be the mutual mistrust of the senior military leaders. If the mistrust somehow reached to its climax, it might explode to uncontrollable crises (God forbid not to happen). The other three points in my view are not consequential in and of themselves, but could exacerbate the two situations I mentioned above.

            We are in a serious situation and the challenge is extremely tough as I see it. We need to talk seriously without going to side issues. Our nation and our people are exposed to unimaginable predicament. This is the time the Eritrean diaspora should cooperate together to avoid the dangerous political clouds hanging over our nation. If the current situation can not unite us, I don’t think any other reality does. It is really scary situation we are in.
            regards,
            Amanuel Hidrat

          • haileTG

            Hello Emma,

            I totally agree of your observations, as it relates the totality of our situation. I was however trying to focus it to Ab’s point on soverignity and independence. And as far as that is concerned, people refusing to mobilize for it is a serious loss of control on the part of the discredited regime. Add to that the mass outflow of people and information and international embargo on arms, the regime has already dug us into a deep hole. Isolated pronouncements of individual Ethipian politicians shouldn’t be taken as a n iminent threat. The only way I can see why that is persued by PFDJ is because they have no other card left. There is this innocent expectation that PFDJ can change its ways and mend relations with the outside world. That is only dream think. The PFDJ is well out of good will and logistical capablity to do so. Its diplomatic arm is broken for good. So, defending Eritrean independence should mean going full force after PFDJ and not falling to its past curfew entrapments of Ethiopia warmongering.

            So, I am wih you on the general side, but my list above is rather limited to the issue of external threat vis-a-vis Eritrean independence.

            Regards

    • Dear Abraham Hanibal,

      When people, who in the past said that they struggled for Eritrean
      independence more than Eritreans themselves, and they would fight again on the side of Eritreans if Eritrea is in danger from Ethiopia, and if today, they change their position and they want to reexamine their past convictions, whether the Eritrean question was colonial or not, then, one is forced to say that after a certain age, it is better that people abstain from politics.

      Eritrean independence is a rhetorical question for the old
      generation of nationalistic Ethiopians, who cannot play any major role anymore, and the different opposition parties, who think that it helps them to discredit the EPRDF, especially TPLF. Eritrean independence is no more an issue that is on the mind of Ethiopians; and they have a completely different priority today.

      Therefore, Eritreans should not worry, because now and then something in relation to the independence of Eritrea is said by somebody. It is my opinion that Eritrean independence is in danger from factors that are within the country rather than outside the country.

      The core issue of Ethio-Eritrean future relations is how we can bring peace between the two people, rather than who would dominate whom.

      • Mahmud Saleh

        Dear Horizon;
        I hope that both of us and all awatistas see the day when Eritreans and Ethiopians and other peoples of the region do business without constraints of politics, just do business and enjoy a normal life. Keep your hope alive. We will make the deal of who visits first who here in Awatista forum!

        • Kokhob Selam

          with people like Horizon everything will be alright. no emotion and no monkey business just from the reality forward. he said “The core issue of Ethio-Eritrean future relations is how we can bring peace between the two people, rather than who would dominate whom.” and he said “It is my opinion that Eritrean independence is in danger from factors that are within the country rather than outside the country.” calling as to think and solve things within rather than blaming others.

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Dear Horizon,

        Those who talk and live on the past, they don’t have horizon to the future. and yes “Eritreans should not worry, because now and then something in relation to the independence of Eritrea is said by somebody.” Once peace and normalization started between Ethiopia and Eritrea, I could foresee that the relationship will be at its best than ever, and all the hoopla or boisterous of ultra-nationalists on both sides will subside or abate slowly.

        regards,

        • Abraham Hanibal

          Mr. Amanuel Hidrat;
          Here I am not trying to be more Eritrean than Eritreans, but I know that the majority of Eritreans understand the unparalleled sufferings and sacrifices that have been paid to achieve our Independence. And when influencial people like Gebru Asrat and Sebhat Nega either wish or give an indication of re-writting history, it is indeed a matter of worry. It is not right to downplay such ambitions from the Ethiopian side because as our much bigger neighbour gets much stronger politically, economically, and diplomatically some in its leadership may find it tempting to rethink their view towards the now weak Eritrea. I know for sure the greatest threat to our Independence is the fatal policies of the PFDJ. But we Eritreans have no other choice other than be prepared to fight on two fronts. While we struggle to remove the PFDJ tyranny, we’ve to stay focussed to face any eventualities that may threaten the very existence of our Independence. Our situation reminds that of a home in disorder, and under such circumstances the home is liable to outside dangers and it needs farsightedness from us to keep our home in tact.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear Abraham,
            First individual’s political rhetoric is not Government’s policy. My reading from inside and outside observation of the “Ethiopian current policy” is solid regarding to our “Eritrean independence”. I don’t believe that they will go for military adventurism to reverse our legal sovereignty. Why should they? Why should they go against the current policy that gave them a paradigm shift for economic development? They saw it on the ground the outcome of the current policy that gave Ethiopia the momentum in all developmental sectors. But to answer to your question, if you want to be ready for any eventuality, we better clean our house and bring it to order, and expedite the necessary change and stop the bleeding exodus of young generation. Talking about the fear of the unknown, at this critical stage won’t help to our primary struggle, to remove the despot and dismantle the apparatus of oppression of PFDJ system. It is absolutely a waste to our “debate time” on unrealistic issue because some individuals react unfavorable to our situation.Talking on “their real policy” which is on the ground, would have been fruitful to our collective efforts. We are scattering our efforts to change the momentum while the objective reality is matured for change.

            regards,

          • welde

            Mr A Hanibal,
            This is very amusing, “… we Eritreans have no other choice other than be prepared to fight on two fronts…” which two fight are you talking about?
            The able bodied Eritreans are leaving, running from the country, they do not want to die for a land, according to them , that is not worth saving.
            Hanibal , can you see the irony,,it seems you are about to loose the one you have while aiming your finger to dismantle a land that do not belong to you. Anyway, I think deep down the majority of diaspora Eritreans’ wish to unite with Ethiopia. The problem is the overwhelming population of Ethiopia do not want union with Eritrea.
            Please forget Ethiopia , save your country ,Eritrea, if you believe it is worth saving otherwise join the hundreds of thousands of your country men/women who have been voting with their feet…. Eritrea, Not Worth dying for!
            regards,

          • Yoty Topy

            This is really beside the point but I think Gebru Asrat wields as much influence on the party as the Kiev government does on Crimea. If you are referring to his new memoirs, I don’t believe they bare any weight other than for the purpose of pushing few copies. Apparently that’s the new thing to do these days. If you don’t believe me ask Leon Panetta.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear Yoty Topy,
            It is individual’s view. It is even discredited by his colleagues (Former TPLF leaders who are members of EPRDF). Gebru Asrat’s view is not EPRDF’s policy (the ruling party). So don’t worry about his view b/c he is not among the policy makers. Listen to Ato Sibhat’s interview (publishes at Aiga forum) how he disqualified his argument and how solid stand he has on the Eritrean Independence.
            Amanuel Hidrat

          • Yoty Topy

            Very irresponsible of him to talk about stuff like that after all what the region went through Aman.
            I do hope he remains irrelevant. Because, from what I hear, there is still a rift within the ruling party between the Meles’ camp and the rest, which according to some will likely manifest during the upcoming elections.

    • Kokhob Selam

      Yes, no single person can change Eritreans hard earned national identity. the only obstacle we face against tranquility and peace is within us. the removal of PFDJ and the ground that creates directorship is the way out. Eritrea and Ethiopia will live in peace side by side as two sisterly nations forever.

  • Shum

    Selam Saay,

    Welcome back. For a minute, I thought the two year warning you gave us Eritreans to get our act together was up and you decided to pursue your writing hobby. Anyway, great summary of the Eritrean foreign policy debacle. I think the opposition gets too tied up in the PFDJ’s framing of the sanctions as a question of do you support it or not. It’s meant to stifle any meaningful discussions and allows them to compartmentalize people into their world of good and bad. It is essential for us to remind them that it was PFDJ that created the conditions and accepted the sanctions with open arms. Your summary does that well.

    As for “Aboy Sebhat”, the link you provided is interesting and curious. I would like to hear more before I reach any conclusions. Have you (meaning Awate) considered interviewing him to get clarification. But I agree with you on TPLF, it is intent on winning. It will drop certain principles to win. But then again, it is a political movement.

    • saay7

      Seminat Shum:

      You know:you should write more often. You have a unique voice: it’s very Christopher Hitchens although u are trying hard to be conventional. I wrote the piece because an Eritrean told me s/he “proudly” participated in some d…a… “Unfair!Unjust!” demo the mekete boys organized. This blew me away at many levels and then I said well maybe the information I assume everybody knows is not well known… Otherwise I was just going to let new voices emerge and I would just read. So it’s some Sal Pacino thing (“everytime…they keep pulling me back!”:)

      Yeah SGJ,Shum is right: interview Harbeyna Weyanai Aboy Sebhat 🙂

      saay

      • Shum

        Chrisopher Hitchens? Brother, you give me too much credit. Besides, I don’t typically drink and post on Awate 🙂 Though, that may help me be less conventional. I wish he was still writing and championed our cause instead of some of these other obscure Tza’du. I haven’t read the Republic magazine. I can read Tigrinya but slowly as I was but a very young child when I left Sudan. But if you send me the link, I’ll give it a shot.

  • Fnote Selam

    Dear Sholla,

    A lot of Eritrean issues involve Ethiopia and vice versa. And people from each country bring the other country into their writing. Sometimes it is understandable & important, but others times, like in this case, unfortunate and distraction.

    Thank you,

    FS

    • saay7

      Selamat Sholla and Fnote:

      I can see how the para dealing with Ethiopia might appear to be gratuituous as it was neither in the thesis of the essay nor in the subsequent “What Now?” heading. But it is part of the heading: from my perspective, Ethiopia’s bad behavior (and, sigh, by Ethiopia I ALWAYS mean the Ethiopian government) is part of our “deja vu of disasters.”

      The Eritrea I want to see is one where politics is what Americans call (borrowing from American football), a “20 yard game”–a ideological argument among moderates. In my view, Ethiopia has been instrumental in the radicalization of Eritrean politics. There are many reasons for this: part of it is ideological (it genuinely believes in ethnic-federalism as a genuine solution), part of it is psychological (it has a messiah-complex about Eritrea: notice how often you read from its supporters that TPLF cares more for Eritreans than any other Eritrean political party) and part of it is political expediency (the necessity of using Eritrea as a football in Ethiopian politics between the Federalists and the Unionists.)

      Unfortunately, it is not possible now to have an honest debate about this within Eritrean opposition. On the one hand, you have people who to say “you are externalizing your problem” or “you are an Ethiopia-hater” or “you are stuck in the past” and on the other hand you have people who argue that Ethiopia is our “blood enemy.”

      saay

  • G. Gebru

    Dear Guest,
    For your information Ethiopia will never accept, at least for the near future, the border ruling simply because under the PFDJ rule Eritreans have become wing less. What is dismaying is that the longer the issue remains hanging the more Eritreans weaken in sprit that might lead to hopelessness and indifference (Meselchaw) among the people that by itself might lead to accepting Ethiopia’s preconditions that more or less fulfills the Unionist banner.
    Dear Guest, I understand from your comment above that you are allergic to Unionist Eritreans, but do not forget that they have equal stake in the well being of their country as you have, so instead of insulting them try to engage them constructively.
    Thanks,
    G.Gebru

    • Abraham Hanibal

      Wait; are there really such Eritreans called “unionists”? I thought this term was used by the PFDJ and its loyalists to discredit their political opponents? Or have I missed out?

      • G. Gebru

        Yes you have missed out. There are actually people with the unionist ideals who base their argument beyond the Italian occupation of Eritrea which the Gedli generation basis (Eritrea as a colony) its argument to justify Eritrea’s cessation from Ethiopia. While the unionists consider the historical, cultural, traditional, religious, tribal and other links that no body can deny between the now two countries and the failure of the independence goals and expectations under EPDJ is supportive to their argument for unity that can guaranty dignity, equality, prosperity and the rule of law that guarantee democratic rule and civil liberty among the united people. Some also refer to Gedli era as a civil war.
        Thanks,
        G.Gebru

        • Abraham Hanibal

          If there are really any such Eritreans they should be a very minor fraction. And their position would not make any difference as the great majority of Eritreans had supported the Gedli, participated in it and finally made a legal conclusion to the question of Independence through internationally endorsed referendum. Period. By the way, where are these Eritreans, do they’ve an organization, a political party, or are they just individuals scattered here and there?
          Regarding the question of Italian colonialism; it is not something that have been invented by the Gedli, rather it is a historical fact no one can deny. Furthermore, Our Independence goals have never failed; I would say they’ve encoutered a hiccup on their way.Those goals and dreams for a peaceful, prosperous and democratic Eritrea are still alive, even though these dreams have gotten a stambling block on their way by the Isayas group. Once we Eritreans manage to remove tyranny, we will embark on realising those dreams.

  • Abraham Hanibal

    It is is not a new phenomen that when PFDJ loyalists like you are confronted with some facts; they never try to give a matured and contructive response ( because they don’t have any) but they resort to their usual diversions and uncivilised responses.

  • Tesfabirhan WR

    by the way, almost the entire Eritrean people informed DIA and people like you are “off the chart” meaning, you and PFDJ are barbaric, lunatic and clueless juntas. But for me, ok, only two people and I know who are.

    I will remind you, the entire Eritrean population is calling you dictators, non-humanists, killers, blood thirsty juntas. Do you read me dear george?

  • Tesfabirhan WR

    dear Guest,

    I am not an organ smuggler like your leaders. I will remind you though, those eritreans, who were sent by Haileslassie and Mengistu regime to study abroad but abandoned and joined the Eritrean revolutionaries, are they thieves at that time? Almost all Eritrean revolutionary elites were sent actually for good intent (according to your analysis). Then, did they come back to worship the senders or they joined the revolution? You are forgetting your history. I am here to remind you dear Guest. Stop being a puppet, a robot, who simply repeats what his god (DIA) said.

    hawka
    te

  • Tesfabirhan WR

    Dear george,

    I am not a YPFDJ cadre who is fooled by conspiracy theory. I know my enemy. Why should I bark to outsiders while my home is still burning. You tune your mindset please. Even the ardent PFDJ propaganda machine dawit admits that DIA should not postpone what the country should have as its rights of democratic process (read his recent converse with Abraham).

    By the way, how can I be a consultant in the PFDJ era? is there any private business run by educated Eritrean? You are way off dear george.

    dear george, you rather do not waste your time mouthing PFDJ doctrine. Stop that please be humane, bring your conscience. Be conscious!

    Hawka
    tes

  • Tesfabirhan WR

    dear Guest,

    I am welcoming to play with anyone who is in my field. Thank you for inviting others.

    hawka
    tes

  • Abel

    Algiers treaty was nullified by HGDEF army the day they decided to invade the demilitarized zone and deport the UN peacekeepers in clear contravention of the peace agreement..All past treaty are dead ,none are valid. if need be Ethiopian and Eritrean democratically elected government can make a fresh comprehensive all round meaningful negotiation.
    No rush though.

  • Mahmud Saleh

    Dear Awatistas

    Re: Aboy SebHat

    1. To Eritreans and EPLF tegadelti, Aboy SebHat
    was among the well respected TPLF leaders.

    2. He was abused by the faction that removed him
    from power in mid 80s for their perception of his closeness to Eritreans. Still
    books that are published by those unti-Eritrean elements and neoTPLFites don’t
    serve him justice.

    3. He was reportedly pushed to agree on
    launching the border war while diplomatic efforts were underway; I hear he was
    of the idea that much was needed to be done to solve the matter peacefully. His
    faction lost and as expected he did what was asked of him to continue the war.
    Obviously, he failed.Since he and PMMZ had always been harassed as being too
    close to Eritreans, they didn’t have a leverage ( Aboys SebHat hinted to this
    fact in several interviews, and Seyoum Mesfin explained PMMZ dilema and the
    harsh treatment he faced during his lengthy interviews after PMMZ death in A TV
    serious narrating PMMZ bio).

    4. To my understanding and according to the
    segment aired on VOA, Aboy SebHat didn’t lament of TPLF stance regarding
    Eritrea, but he says the vocabulary used during ghedli needs to be revised ( I
    opt to listen to the whole interview). If his take is restricted to semantics,
    I don’t think we have to be edgy. Remember, while Asrat Gebru revises history
    and calls for an overhaul, Aboy SebHat is speaking about concepts used for the
    same eventuality- meaning Eritrean question was one of self-determination and
    that Eritreans could separate if they chose so. So, there is a clear
    distinction between Aboy SebHat and Asrat Gebru. And let’s listen to the
    interview in its entirety.

    5. At the end, it all boils down to how we
    behave to save our nation. If we continue building a meaningful unity, if we put
    our house in order, we could be at a better position to fend off any
    temptations by certain neighbor politicians. By the way, this is true with the
    Sudan (we have a big segment that lives on both sides of the border. On the far
    Southeast, we have Afars inhibiting difficult to defend elongated strip of land
    (look at the map of Eritrea). We have the Kunamas,etc. The point is each of
    these ethnic groups has to feel proud of becoming an Eritrean. How do we do it?
    Through practical accommodation, they should be seen as stake holders as any
    inland inhabitant. Peripheries are always the door for foreign saboteurs.

    6. On the term: Even ghedli Ertra had difficulty
    getting the term “colonialism” across the world. At any junction, our
    diplomats were asked, ” How could a black African country colonizes black
    people?” Well, the EPLF also went through adjusting its vocabulary. At one
    time there was literature made available for discussion about “black
    colonialism.” I don’t think it permeated through our understandings. Eritrean
    revolution pushed through mainly assisted by the victories it was achieving in
    the military theater. But it had always faced a dilemma on this front. Eastern
    Block would insist we were all in the socialist camp and did not need to fight
    the durg, while the western world would say ” Come on, poor and black
    Ethiopia could not be a colonizer.” The legendary divide between EPLF and
    EPRP was caused along those lines. They believed Eritrean question could be
    answered within a truly socialist Ethiopia, through self-determination just
    like what the soviets did. EPLF continued explaining it as
    annexation..occupation…self-determination…colonialism….What’s important
    is TPLF believed in Eritreans right of self-determination and they made true to
    their words. The last war created a bitter experience, plus now, as a ruling
    party in Ethiopia, Ethiopian politics enters their already bitter attitude
    (election is coming).

    7. Eritreans should not relax though. Just
    because we are a member of UN doesn’t mean the UN or USA will launch Er-desert
    storm against Ethiopia in the advent Ethiopia occupies Eritrea or parts of it.
    Just think about this: Think that Kuwait was at odd with the USA in 1990, and
    it was a poor country with no resources that the west consider vital national
    security, do you think USA would have spent that much in blood and treasure to
    kick out Sadam?

    We should not over-blow it, but threats are
    always around the corner. They could come from the Sudan, Ethiopia or Djibouti.
    However, the trend is towards peaceful coexistence and economic integration. We
    the citizens should emphasize this. The youth need to promote this notion,
    because at the end, you are the ones who pay the price.

    • dawit

      Dear Mahmud,
      The above comment is very educational to both Ethiopia and Eritrea, tracing the history of Eritrean and Ethiopian free thinkers, who are not clattered with emotional rhetoric but based on facts. You see Mahamud, you wrote the other day we are oceans apart, but I think we are very close in our thinking for most part, even though we may differ in how we view the present Eritrean and Ethiopian leadership. I like your reconciliatory approaches in your writings.
      Regards

      • Mahmud Saleh

        Dear dawit;
        I enjoy your calm exchanges, as a person I don’t like name calling and that stuff. So, you are always welcome. Our difference is big dawit, but we need to keep talking. I believe PFDJ and its leader have wreaked havoc to an otherwise proud and high aiming nation. What sickens me is the lost opportunities. I have been observing helplessly a once promising nation spiraling down the gutter. I put the blames squarely on our leaders. You do what gives your conscience peace. But there is no alternative to discussing.

    • Semere Andom

      Hi Mahmud:
      On Aboy Sebhat:
      I have different take, cannot quote or cite sources but this what is told about this man;
      Even after the Mellles guys took power, he retained his power and was their security chief. He is also rumored to be Melles’s God father (Balliga). So he always had power and that he willingly gave power to the younger Melles, both are from Adwa an Geo-Politics is and was always at play
      During the war he was supporting Melles, who was not initially supporting the war, The Siye group wanted the war and Melles refused until the last minute and then war committee voted and the war group won, This is according to Siye. He always supported Melles and he always had power and When Melles arrested the Siye group he was supported him. Your friend TKifle can give us more info. But the word is that Sebhat wields a lot of power. In TPLF veteran fighters and founders can oppose the leadership and can still roam freely and even if they retire their opinion matters compare that to aboy Romadan.
      Sem

      • Mahmud Saleh

        Seme A
        Good addition, hope to see TPLF guys give us their version. Ours is ofcourse that of an observer take.
        When I said he was removed from power I didn’t mean he was stripped off of his organizational duties. I know he remained to be a key figure in the politbureau. And you are right regarding his relation with PMMZ, although not sure how much Adwa’s role played in that relationship, but it is rumored Adwa guys wielded more power.
        On your comparison of Aboy Romadan and Aboy SebHat: Remember, Romadan was the leader of EPLF, but Issayas was the leader of the secret party. There were two factors that deminished Romadan’s role in EPLF.
        A/ The party lead the front and hence, in theory and practice, Issayas was calling the shots.
        B/ Romadan’s poor Tigrigna would not make him fit the structural communuication pipeline in the organization. All communications were done through Tigrigna, and the man, despite being smart and more educated could not find an environment in which he could use his wealth of experience and education. He was mostly seized with foreign related matters. Day to day affairs of the organizations were done by Issayas. Romadan is respected by EPLF tegadelti as a kind and fatherly figure as much as SebHat was.
        ***There is an important point in your comment though. It’s funny that people our leadership despised outperformed and outsmarted them. I am courageous to give credit to whom it deserves. As you said, it’s true people like Gebru Asrat are roaming Tigray while the founders of Eritrea and EPLF are dying in dungeons. If our generation leaves Eritrea like this, it’s a shameful end of history for a nation that had paid dearly for a better future. Eritreans must reverse this diversionary course of history before it’s too late and we are doomed collectively as shameful people. As a person who spent a good part of my young age for the liberation of my people, it’s painful to see this happen to my people. The cause is clearly one person and his tentacles, and we know how this man grew to be the menace he is. So, make no mistake, this has been the curse of worshiping one man. I am going to expand on Saleh Yunis article sometime in the coming days, if the editor-in-chief accepts it, but not a done deal. I am inspired by his “uniform stupidity” line.
        How TPLF pulled it off in post Mengistu Ethiopia should be a matter of study. Here in Eritrea, you had a country which was united, and ready to take off, and you know what has happened to it. While in Ethiopia, a minority movement faced Ethiopia’s established notion of nationhood and whatever it entails bravely, and you see them leading it towards a safer direction and to a greener pasture. This is something we have to learn from. Whether it is the best proposition or not is left for Ethiopians, but we cannot ignore the fact that they have created a sense of normalcy and a culture of modern politics.

        • Semere Andom

          Hi Mahmud:
          I look forward to reading your article after I win the case against Sal:-)

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Dear Mahmuday,

          Though I gave you my vote for your generalized-political intake, I will ask you to rethink about the following statement of yours: “The cause is clearly one person and his tentacles, and we know how this man grew to be the menace he is. So, make no mistake, this has been the curse of worshiping one man.” In my view the more we focus to remove “one man” the more we will be trapped in to another “political folly.” Whether they did it collectively or not, Issayas and his party have created a strong system, that people in the opposition should recognize as is – the existence of a formidable system in Eritrea. Otherwise our struggle will be hijacked and will not bring the needed change.

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Dear Aman H
            I am aware of the long run debate between Issayasism/Issayas vis-a-vis PFDJ institutionalism. For the most part, it’s academic to me. And I don’t believe both are mutually exclusive. We can have an institutionalised PFDJ which is created by him and for him. I ask myself: Can this monster have any social utility without the existence of PIA? Can you define PFDJ out side the person Issayas? Does it have an independent existence? When I think of an institution I see an organization with routinized intraorganizational rules which also rule Issayas himself. All those who worked with the man will tell you he’s everything. He is the rule. Even the minutest detail will have to go through him. I don’t see and independently existing institution which stands on its own. PFDJ doesn’t even conduct regular auditing, quality assurance, organizational reviews, intraorganizational transfer of power which is critical for the health of the organization. All you see is a mammoth organization that moves when Issayas moves and lumbers when he naps. So, it’s an image and essence of him. Of course it has structure and reporting mechanism, and values (which are issayasim values), in that essence you could say it’s an institution. So, I don’t think both of you are far apart. Saleh, says that everything bad a value that Issayas is known for must go. In essence, demolishing Issayasism= demolishing PFDJ.That’s my layman take, and I am happy if you delve further.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Merhaba Mahmud,

            You have said ” I don’t believe both are mutually exclusive.” By that you mean to Issayas and PFDJ. I can’t agree more. You have also said: “In essence, demolishing Issayasism= demolishing PFDJ.” These two statements mad it clear your stand, and we are in the same page. However, we must agree also that the institutions he built in (no matter to whom they serve) are formidable and needs a well synchronized efforts to dismantle it. I wish my friend Saay could be more clearer, if he is the same as you read him. Thank you for your clarification.

            regards,

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  • Abraham Hanibal

    If you have followed with the process, then you would know that Ethiopia has in fact accepted the border ruling in principle. What Ethiopia has been asking is how to implement the ruling on the ground. The Algiers Agreemnet didn’t give in detail as to how practical issues of demarcation could be resolved. You can take an example: If a given village is to fall on both sides of the demarcation line, how would you resolve this issue? That is why the question of sitting together and finding a common solution acceptable to both sides is important. You cannot just demarcate the border blindly without considering practical issues like this. This means the stance of the PFDJ government of just demarcating without dialogue to resolve eventual issues of contention is meaningless.

    • dawit

      Abraham ,
      What do you mean by ‘Ethiopia has in fact accepted the border ruling in principle’. To me it like saying PIA has accepted a democratic and constitutional government in Eritrea in principle. The problem is the timing, which he thinks that will happen after the border issue with Ethiopia is resolved! So you see it is the chicken or the egg arguments all-round. In my opinion Ethiopia does not need negotiation to pull out of occupied undisputed Eritrean territories, like wise PIA does not need border resolutions to implement the ratified Eritrean Constitution. That is my principle

      • Abraham Hanibal

        By that I mean that Ethiopia has accepted the ruling in principle and are awaiting for the technicalities as to how demarcate the border on the ground. Ethiopia has communiicated this to the UN. So what is wrong with asking on working out the details and practical solutions to disagreements that may arise? I don’t say that Ethiopia has also hurted the process by denying to withdraw its forces from some villages that have fallen in Eritrean side according to the ruling, for example the Badme village.
        You say that “PIA has accepted a democratic and constitutional government in Eritrea in principle”, something which is completely false. I’ve never heard the dictator cite the border demarcation as a hindrance for democracy in Eritrea. And anyway if you are a sound minded person what kind of reasoning would it be to reject the Eritrean people their natural right for rule of law and democracy because of border problem? In tigringa this is called “ebara mikniyat”, in fact it is the denial of the Eritrean people’s right for democratic rule that they have died for in decades long struggle. The term democracy is not in the dictator’s vocabulary; we’ve heard him making a mockery of democracy in his various interviews. Isayas believes that he is God-sent leader for Eritreans and is never willing to cede power to the People as long as he is alive.
        It is now very clear to any right-minded Eritrean that the PFDJ-regime has been using the border conflict to justify its continued oppression and absence of rule of law towards its own people. The inner circle of PFDJ consider the no-war-no-peace situation as a gift in their evil mission of enslaving and destroying the Eritrean people. It is, therefore, not in their intereset to contribute positively to the final settlement of the issue.
        Finally, accepting the priciple of dialogue doesn’t mean that one is giving up on the final-and-binding nature of the border ruling. Tne Eritrean government could acccept the idea of dialogue under the pretext that the ruling would be the reference point, upon which all undisputed parts of the border be demarcated, while dialogue would be to resolve outstanding issues that may arise during the practical demarcation process. But to reject calls for dialogue, and implement the ruling blindly without considering technical issues is not a sign of mature leadership.

  • Abraham Hanibal

    መልእኽቲ ናብ ሓይልታት ምክልኻል አርትራ፥
    ዉልቀ መላኺ ኢሳያስ ኣብዚ ዕርቃኑ ወጺኡ፥ ህዝቢ አርትራ ጉዱ ፈሊጡዎ ፎእ ኢሉዎ ኣብ ዝርከበሉ እዋን፥ እምነቱ ኣብ ልዕሊ ህዝብን ምክልኻልን አርትራ ኣጥፊኡ ይርከብ። ስል’ዚ እዚ ነውራም ዉልቀ መላኺ ነቲ እከይ ተግባራቱ ናይ ምምብርካኽን ምዕናውን ህዝቢ እርትራ ንምቕጻል፥ ንደምሕት ከም መጋበርያ ክጥቀመሉ ይርከብ። እዚ ምርኩስ ብምግባር፥ ሓይልታት ምክልኻል አርትራ ክብረትካን ክብረት ክዝብኻን ኣብ ቦትኡ ንምምላስ፥ ነዚ እከይ ተግባር ኣረሜን ኢሳያስን ኣገልገልቱን ጌና ሱር ከይሰደደ መዕለቢ ክትገብረሉ ታሪኻውን ሃገራውን እጃምካ ከተልዕል ይግባእ። እዛ ብደም ኣሽሓት ደቃ ናጽነታ ዝተጎናጸፈት ሃገርን ህዝብን ብጉጅለ ኢሳያስን ጓኖትን መላገጺ ክትከውን ፍጹም ስለ ዘይግባእ፥ ሓይልታት ምክልኻል ኤርትራ ብረትካ ናብ ሓይልታት ጸጥታ ኢሳያስን ደምሕትን ብምቕናዕ፥ ንህዝብኻ ካብ ዳግም መግዛእቲ ደቂ ሃገርን ባዕድን ነጻ ከተውጽእ ይግባእ።

  • Tesfabirhan WR

    dear george,

    If I never thought about it I could never have brought it here. You are responding to what i wrote. You didn’t reminded me but I did.

  • Tesfabirhan WR

    dear george,

    You are repeating your DIA’s doctrine. recently, DIA said the same tone like yours. I will not repeat what he said as it is devil’s word. Worse, you are repeating it. How can a country be better by expelling its own children? Whether I am good or bad, my country is my country. My country has to accept my strength and weaknesses. I will not wonder though hearing from you such chicken headed mind talk.

    hawka
    tes

  • Tesfabirhan WR

    thank you dear guest!

  • Fnote Selam

    Hi Sal,

    Spot on analysis, spoiled by the paragraph on Ethiopia. That paragraph might be important, but it shouldn’t have been part of this article. It will take all the attention away from the far more important points you discussed in the other parts of the article.

    Thanks,

    FS.

  • Admas

    ” The struggle was legitimate and the price they paid for the independence of their country is worth while and I praise them for their tenacity.” derbewu in respones to fatima Dechasa

    Politically correct but lacks honesty….wither something is worthwhile or not depends on the pros and cons of the result….according to you, whatever Eritreans gained from the “independence” is worthwhile just because it happened to be convenient for Ethiopia or current ethiopian government…the truth is, there is no historical evidence to wither Eritreans can govern themselves or the independence is worthwhile…at least not yet…so lets leave the fake diplomatic mantra and call a spade a spade…

    • Admas

      PS, having said that I’m one of those Ethiopians who will fight tooth and nail to keep Eritrea away from Ethiopia..

  • haileTG

    Selamat Saay,

    A good read overall, although the Ethiopia side of your argument might have stolen the focus from the most relevant and timely parts of your article. Remember also that Aboy Sebhat has only said “it needs to be investigated” and not made a conclusive finding as per the comment he made. It is actually Aboy Gebru who run the mile and finished the race early to print. he found that it was not colonial and Ethiopia could have been served better had TPLF drove a harder bargain when it mattered. They both agree however, as does the rest of the world, that Eritrean independence is a foregone conclusion. It is also clear more than ever that it is only the PFDJ that is bartering the issue of Eritrean independence for fear factor, as the last card to save its skin

    The Eritrean regime has now fell flat on the face by the popular rejection of its attempt to ratchet up a non-existent war hysteria to arm the population. In response to that it is openly engaging in provocative propaganda against Ethiopia by talking up rag tag Ethiopian opposition groups in a bid to lure Ethiopia into unnecessary and unwarranted conflict. Eritreans in Eritrea have given their verdict and no one is ready to be enlisted or fight for the regime’s scheming and self provoked war. The jury might be out for the diaspora Eritreans, but the decision is firm as far as our people at home are concerned. The clear and present menace to Eritrea and its people is the militarily defeated, politically bankrupt and globally isolated regime of IA. It is likely that it would continue its war provocation against Ethiopia and that may swell the volume of the current exodus and may force Ethiopia’s hand to retaliate. But I hope the Ethiopians would wise up to let it blow over (even if IA is making it harder for them to ignore it as he happens to be increasing uncertainty in their country’s perception and only themselves know the true cost of such).

    The fact remains that for good or worse, Eritreans can only be in a position to have a say about their country when the regime is gone. Till then, the only say they have is on how to survive, i,e fighting under and for the sole benefit of a criminal regime or by doing everything they can to avoid that. I would say that issues of concern as it relates Ethiopia, may be better to be made specifically, clearly and well defined scope of application. That way it may reduce the risk of triggering sentimental analysis from both sides that really doesn’t reflect the reality on the ground. For example, referring to what was said by Ato Gebru or Ato Sebhat, what would you conclude in very specific and predictive format?

    The rest of the arguments I agree fully.

    Regards

    PS: Are you following thr Eritrean regime news blackout on Burkina faso?

    • Rodab

      Hailat,
      How do you follow a news blackout? Isn’t it blacked-out? Lol.
      Anyway, Africa’s biggest news at the momement, Burki Nafaso, didn’t make it to EriTv. Yemen made it (because it is a news about crisis & such news is always welcome), Boko Haram made it (because, again, it’s about crisis), Burkina didn’t make it (because, it won’t be necessaryto talk about a president’s overthrow, and a peacefull one at that, hello!

      • haileTG

        hey Rodab

        you ask “How do you follow a news blackout?”….hmmm

        My answer “follow ERiTV”..haha (news blackouts is so rare nowadays, only antiquated news services, those communist era throwback type like ERiTV or KCTV, would have it for you).

        On a serious note, what you said “crisis news” is only intl. bulletin provided by ERiTV since independence. I have a third party study made on it, let me know if you need the link.

        Regards

  • Fetima Dechasa

    haquda,

    You totally lost me here Sir/Ma’am. Are you saying I’m deceiving you by stating that Eritreans are capable of their own matters? Who are you worked up about? Never mind, that was a rhetorical question.

    • haquda

      Eyob oops I mean Fatima, you know exactly what I meant. Don’t even try these cheap tricks!!!

  • saay7

    Thanks G Gebru:

    Two things. One of the most disappointing things to me is that many ELF veterans, who never saw the TPLF coming in 1981, are completely blind to it now. Again. This willing king blindness can only be due to one enduring fact: they hate the EPLF even more. Maybe. I don’t know.

    Second: it’s clear to anybody that TPLF has only one and only one permanent principle: to win. If winning requires that it disown anything and everything it believed it will. Consider how Aboy Sebhat (the ideological mastermind of TPLF) views that he is reconsidering his party’s position about Eritrea is being justified: oh well, at least he believes in eritreas independence. Yes. For now. How do you know he won’t change his mind? And why do you want to forever depend on the kindness of others?

    Third, I really like ur appellation of the PFDJ as a “shallow think tank.” I have never seen an organization that is so consistently wrong about everything. The sad thing is that it’s populated by sharp people but their primary audience is a dummy and they fit their thinking to reach conclusions acceptable to a dummy.

    saay

  • Abraham Hanibal

    Are we starting to see the last days of Isayas regime? There are many encouraging developments for change happening in Eritrea today. The general sense of disobedience by conscripts and militia and the courageous stance that Christian religeous leaders are showing against the dictatorship are all good signs of the brewing movement for change. I hope this Christian religeous leaders’ courage be complemented by the Islamic religeous leaders. And the fact that the regime is often depending on the support of the DEMHIT to suppress the people would probably be the last drop that would cause the beaker to overflow. DEMHIT’s role in Eritrea has changed from opposing the Ethiopian government to serving the Eritrean dictator. This should ultimately lead to confrontation with the EDF, if the EDF commanders wake up to their senses. But any confrontation with DEMHIT need to happen really quickly before the regime infiltrates the EDF with DEMHIT and render them incapable of defending themselves. The EDF’s ultimate reaction against the DEMHIT would finally lead to confrontation with the dictator’s inner circle of security. Let’s hope things will work out in favor of the Eritrean People this time.

  • Kokhob Selam

    very interesting article. If only it includes the story before the so called national freedom. nationa freedom was planed only to continue
    for some years by creating chaos and confusions in our people, if only the story goes back on how DEA work hard to exclude the real awaken leaders it could have been complete circle. I don’t know if most of you agree with me that DEA was not for real national freedom and is not still. all he has done after independent is the continuation of his long back plan. it is was very tough time for him as every year pass he was forced to continue as our fighters ware serous of national freedom. the other very difficult moment was when Meles block the way by totally taking stand on freedom of Eritrea. He the most mart leader horn has seen was very practical although his party TPLF’s plan was something else. yet, DIA still work to make Eritrea a failed state while convincing people he cares even about Badme. Just imagine how much rich could have been Eritrea simply by using Both Aseb and Mesewa creating free market leave alone other natural resources and hard working man power Eritrea own.

    what is next? what should we do. I want to read more comments and I will come with my version. you may not agree with me but still that is what i believe. I will put it in Tigringa.

    • Kokhob Selam

      እታ ሓቂ ሓንትን ንጽርትን ክንሳ ብብዙሓት ሓቂ ዝመስሉ ሓሶታት እያ ተኸቢባ ጸኒሓ :: ሃገርነት ኤርትራ ዘየጠራጥርን ዋጋ ዕዳጋ ዘየድልዮ ጉዳይ ክንሱ : ነቲ ከበሳን ቆላን ከፋፊሉ ናብ ሱዳንን ኢትዮጵያን ከጸግዕ ዝተበገሰ ሸርሒ ንምምካት ፈደረሽን ዕረ እናጠዓሞ ዝተቀበለ ህዝና “ናጽነት ካብ ዘይተኻእለ ብጥርንፍታ ብፈደረሸን እሞ ትጽናሕ “ዝዓይነቱ ምርጫ ዝወሰደ ህዝቢ ግን ንምሸቱ ኣብ ትሕቲ ኢትዮዽያ ክቁርን ርኡይ መጥቃዕቲ እዩ ተወሲድዎ :: ህዝብና ኣይሓመቐን : ነቲ ብመግዛእቲ ኢጣልያ ዝተፈጥረ ሃገርነት ዳግማይ ብዘየቛርጽ ኣዝዮ መዳርግቲ ዘይርክቦ ታሪኻዊ ገድሊ ከረጋግጾ ክኢሉ እዩ:: እቲ ሕማቕ ንሰውራ ኤርትራ ንምቁጽጻር ኢልካ ውን ንናይ ድልየታት ምዕራባዊ ደምበ ንምርዋይ ዝተላእኸ ውልቀ ሰብ ገና ኣብ ስልጣን ምህላው እዩ:: ፕሮፌሰር ተስፋ ጽዮን መድሃኔ ነዚ ብዝምልከት ከም መመያየጢ ሰነድ ዘስፈሮ ” ኤርትራ ከም ዓደ ‘ቦ ጽገማትን ብድሆታትን ኣብ ታሪኽን ሎምን “ ኣብ ትሕቲ ዝብል ኣርእስቲ ብመስከረም 2012 ምንባብ ይከ ኣል እዩ ::

      ብሸነኸይ ዝረ ኣየኒ ኣብ ‘ዚ ግዜ ሓፋሽና ንነጻነት ዓመታት ክሳብ ዝረግመን ይርብርብ ስሎ ዘሎን :- ንሃገርነት ኤርትራ ዘማህምን መድረኽ ብምብጻሕናን ኣብ ታሕቲ ዝርከቡ ንጥብታት ከነስምረሎም ይግባእ ::

      01. ሃገራውነት ኤርትራ : – ብሰንኪ ዝወረደና ፈተና ንድሕሪት ዘይምለስ ምዃኑ ብትሪ ምእማንን ብዝለዓለ ድረጃ ምምካትን እቲ ግዱይ ጉዳይ ናይ’ ዚ ሕጂ ዝሳቐ ህዝቢ ጥራይ ዘይኮነስ ጉዳይ ናይ ‘ቶም ህይወቶም ዘሕለፉ ስው ኣትና ምዃኑን : ንሶም ክምለሱን ካልእ ምርጫ ክወስዱን ስለ ዘይክእሉ መስዋእቶም ንሃገርነት ኤርትራ ፍጹምን ዘየወላውልን ይገብሮ ::
      02. ኢትዮዽያውያን ወገናትና ኣብ ጉዳይ ምምላስ ኤርትራ ፍጹም ከይሓስቡን ፍቅርን ሰላምን ክልቲኡ ህዝብታት ዝረጋገጽ ‘ውን ኣብ ናጽነትን ሃገራዊ መሰልን ምዃኑ ምርግጋጽ እዚ ብውልቀ ሰባትን ማሕበራትን ዓቅልን ልቦናን ዝዓሰሎ ኣካይዳ ከምዝዓኹኽ ምግባር ኣብ ፍቅርን ሰላምን ብዝለዓለ ምስራሕ ::
      03. ኣብ ክንዲ ካብ ሰራዊት ኤርትራን መሪሕነቱን ንልወጢ ምጽባይ ብረታዊ ተጋድሎ ዘካይድ ንኹሉ ዘማእክል ሰራዊጥ ምፍጣር ወይ ውን ንዘለው ጠርኒፍካ ምድልዳሎምን ምስናቆምን ብተግባር ምስታፍን በዚ ልክዕ ነቲ ብህግደፍ ጅሆ ተታሒዙ ዘሎ ሰራዊት ምስሓብን ዓቢ ናይ ስለያ መርበብ ምፍጣርን ኣርዓዲ ስጉምትታት ኣብ ልዕሊ ቀተልቲ መራሕቲ ምውሳድ::
      04. ኣብ ጉዳይ መሰጋገሪ መንግስትን መድረኽን ዘይተደለይቲ ግዳያት ንግዝኣኡ ከም ዝውንዘፉ ምግባር ን ኣብነት ኣብ ‘ዚ ግዜ ‘ዚ ኣብ ግዱይ “እንታይ መንግስቲ እና ንምስርት “ ዝብል ሕቶ ምቅራብ ነቲ ደራኺ ሓይልታት ዝ ሃስዮ ምዃኑ ተዓዚብና ኢና :: እዚ ቀዳማይ ናብ ሕሉፍ ስ ለ ዝመልስን ዘይተደላይ ቛይቂ ስለ ዝፈጥርን ካል ኣይ ከ ኣ ን ኣብነት እቲ ፈደራል ስቴት ዝብል ኣምር ንዝበዝሑ ምሁራትና ዘየዕግብ ኮይኑ ስለዝረኣ ዘሎ ::

      ነዚ ኣብ ተግባር ንምውዓል ናይ ግድን ሓድነት ዶ ስምረት ዶ እናበልካ ግዜ ምጥፋእ ኣይከድልን እዩ ::እቲ ዝድለ ሕጂ ብተግባር ተንቀሳቂስካ መሪሕ ግደ ምጽዋት ስለ ዝኾነ ኩሉ ብተግባር ዝኣምን ኣብ ባይታ ከሪኢ ይግባእ :: እቲ ዝንቀሳቀስ ሓይሊ ንኹሉ መልክዓኣት ሕ – ሰብና እንተ ኣሳቲፉ መገዲ ስምረት እናተጻፈፈ ዘይከደሉ ምኽንያት የለን ::

  • dawit

    Selam Saay

    “You
    could spend a lifetime marveling at the criminality of the Eritrean government,
    if you were not so awestruck by its stupidity”
    In my opinion the remark itself is ‘Stupid’ remark. You can blame the mistakes and political blunders by Eritrea as luck of experience in steering through the diplomatic minefields of international politics. It tantamount to calling all Eritrean people who are behind the government, including the army as people who have no clue in their countries affairs. Luck of experience can also be observed on the opposition
    camp, especially on those in the diaspora who are cheering occupation of Eritrean territories by Ethiopia and the UN sanction against Eritrea which are both related and have become the primary causes of Eritrean youth exodus. If you are seeking for a peaceful change in Eritrea, all those ‘Stupids’ have to be convinced that the change is their favor, and not for some one to use them to ride on their back. Other than the stupid remark, I like reading the article its historical facts tracing to the UN sanction, except it does not put the history of the opposition parties role on the UN sanctions.

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Selam Saay,

    Forgive me to ask you something related to a conceptual theory. When I reread you article which I always do, I found a statement that I need some clarification. You seemed you agreed with the guy who told you the following: “The mistake you guys make…Eritrea is an authoritarian state but it cannot be a totalitarian state because, after all, it is an African State. Even if it wants to be one, it can’t: it doesn’t have the resources.” Now my question to you is, does resources has to do with the definition of “totalitarian regimes”?. If it does can you refer me to any literature that somehow infer economic resources (economic development) has to do with the definition of totalitarian regimes? So far my resources does include only when the regimes – as a totalitarian states, monopolize the political and economy of the nation. It doesn’t take into account the development stages of the nations, but in fact it is how the states are structured and how the political and economy of the state is run by the ruling regimes. Totalitarian regimes control the livelihood or the entire way of life of the people. I will see how we can proceed our argument from that.

    Regards,
    Amanuel Hidrat

    • saay7

      Selamat Emma:

      Of course resource has everything to do with a State’s ambition to be totalitarian. I will give you two simple examples:

      1. The Isaias regime spends a lot of money from its meager resources trying to block US/Europe-based Eritrean opposition/independent websites, broadcasts; Ethiopian broadcasts; Al Jazeera (during the Arab Spring). How totalitarian (total control of public sphere) it can get is dependent on its resources: it is still a poor African country so its totalitarian ambitions are often challenged, compared to, say, China.

      2. The Isaias regime spends a LOT of money from its limited resources on eavesdropping/spying on its own citizens. But it is a poor African country and doesn’t have the resources of NSA. So it is limited to identifying select phone numbers (from and to) and monitoring them.

      Just two quick examples. I am sure you can think of 10 more.

      saay

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Abu Saleh,

        Of course they will be challenged, even the USSR was challenged by the west. That doesn’t mean the regime is not “totalitarian regime”. My question was simple. Does your stage of economic development a factor to the definition of the concept. Totalitarian is defined by how the regime controls the way of life of the people economically, politically, and socially, and not by how developed the nation is. I am only focusing on the description of the person who communicate with you who said African countries couldn’t have a totalitarian regime. By the way did you agree with his statement?

        Regards,

        • saay7

          Emma:

          My new resolution (my new year started October 1) precludes me from engaging in discussions about nothing:) Please let the whole month pass before I break it. The answer to your own question (assuming it is a question) is in the very question itself (totalitarian is defined by HOW the regime controls the way of life….). To control something, you have to have the means to do it. An authoritarian regime can aspire to be a totalitarian regime but if it doesn’t have the ability to be (because it is resource-poor) then it can’t do it.

          saay

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Okay Saay,

            But let me state this: The Eritrean regime has everything to control the way of life of our people. Hence it is a totalitarian regime. Thank you for your response.

            Amanuel Hidrat

          • Semere Andom

            Hi Emma:
            Leave Abu Salah finish his DAN calendar:-)
            Whatever the PFDJ lacks in resources makes up in the following:
            1.Shipping every able bodied Eritrean to languish in the middle of nowhere
            2. Uses old fashioned way way recruiting “jewasis” in almost every village, given the small size of our population this works
            3.If Isaias can hear what a bar owner said about him and imprisons him for 6 six months, the government has informants in every neighborhood to report who has “koblilu”
            4. Like the natural resources of a country PFDJ is blessed with many people like dawit and Nitricc and people with Phds in mathematics and journalism who have helped it to achieve its totalitarian grip. These people more in value to FDJ that the Bisha gold mine
            5 Last but most important is how long did Eritreans give the Ethiopians regime before students like the late Seyoum Harestayand his peers demonstrated and other movements to oppose the HaileSlasie regime. The Ethiopian regime generally left you alone if you did not involve in “politics” and also if you leave the cities and live in your village, you were generally safe as Ethiopians did not know what was in our ‘kefo”.PFDJ knows what is in “our kefo” so to speak, what was the Akil’s heels of Ethiopians is a strength for the PFDJ, also one of the reasons why we did not have a popular uprising even with the opportunities and catalysts for an angst and therefore uprising.
            Sem

          • AOsman

            Semere Andom,

            This debate sounds more about semantics rather than real
            understanding of the nature of the regime we have in Eritrea and I don’t think
            the two have much difference there.

            SAAY in his post is alluding to the challenge/constraint
            faced to achieve a totalitarian regime as per its textbook definition. Rather
            than attributing a static definition and assuming the regime to be so to the
            end, the idea that totalitarianism is dependent on resource it musters and that
            lack of it would create an environment of reduced control would give room to
            think and plan on how to reduce the grip of the regime and eventually replace
            it.

            In your comparison with Ethiopia #5, you highlighted how DIA
            takes advantage of technology, small population, smaller land and other factors
            that would make it less resource intensive, but still within the context of Eritrea,
            a totalitarian regime would “relatively” consume more resource than other systems.

            Regards
            AOsman

  • Fetima Dechasa

    “Finally, Ethiopia. It is clear to me that they do not just want an Eritrea without Isaias Afwerki. They want an Eritrea without many Eritreans—those who have a mindset that Eritrea has the legal and moral authority to dictate its terms even if it means that it will have to reject the Ethiopian narrative of history.”

    Absurd!!! Ethiopia and Ethiopians want nothing more than to move on beyond the terrorist harboring Eritrean government. We have moved on with our lives for the most part, Eritrea holds no weight in our every day lives and hasn’t for the last decade and half except for the immanent proxy war threat it symbolizes. As for your narrative of history, we could care less. I mean there is history and there is His’Story, the latter is often construed and rewritten to serve a purpose. In this case to congregate the essential unification of Eritrea, the symbol of the ultimate Eritreanism, which happened to be the hatred for Ethiopia and her people.

    Ethiopia was the first to recognize Eritrea as an independent nation. Over twenty years ago the world also recognized it as such. What more is there left to do? The truth is… Eritrea/Eritreans might have gained independence but you’re mindset was/is of a grossly entitled dependent teenager. You want all the good that came with independence (not sure what in this case) but still blamed the negative on Ethiopia as if you are still a part of and with a great level of expectation. Almost every story, politics, etc of Eritrea revolves around Ethiopia, why? Where is the independent mindset? The truth of the matter is that you yourselves continuously undermine you’re own independence when you play helpless victims. Whatever happened to the sovereignty and self determination? Isn’t an independent nation in charge of it’s political, economical, citizens, etc? How long is Ethiopia going to be Eritrea’s scapegoat? What gives?

    • Kim Hanna

      Fetima Dechasa,
      .
      Ethiopia is blessed with competent defenders, like you. Thank you.
      .
      K.H

    • haquda

      Dear Fatima, you said “Ethiopia was the first to recognize Eritrea as an independent nation. Over twenty years ago the world also recognized it as such. What more is there left to do?”
      Well the same Ethiopian leaders Sibhat Nega, Gebru Asrat, Siye Abraha and the rest of current leaders of Ethiopia who forced by EPLF to recognize independent has recant their recognition. I have no debut that they will reverse the independence of Eritrea, because We Eritreans are so stupid and not fit to govern our self but to be ruled and murdered by some one stranger. I sorry to say that but that is the hard truth.

      • Fetima Dechasa

        haquda,

        I am confident that Eritreans are more than capable of governing Eritrea. I’m also certain that whatever is happening in your country currently will pass and there are brighter days ahead.

        As for recanting Eritrea’s independence, I don’t believe that is possible or desired, that ship has sailed long ago. Never mind the mouth pieces and political heads of Ethiopia, we the people do not want it.

        • Abinet

          Selam Fatima
          We the people do anything to keep eritrea independent.

          • Fetima Dechasa

            Selam Abinet,

            Yes, as we should. Ethiopia is better of without Eritrea and vice versa.

      • Abraham Hanibal

        We Eritreans are indeed capable of governing ourselves and capable of creating a prosperous country for our ONLY about 5 million People. That is really not difficult. But first we need to rid ourselves out of the claws of the Isayas dictatorship. I am confident the time we remove this PFDJ menace, we will set out on the course of development. We have all the ingredients for building a prosperous society: hard working People, abundant natural resources, a huge potential for tourism and a strategic location at the meeting point of Asia, Africa and world trade routes.

    • derebew

      Fatima
      Great response, I am Ethiopian and very sympathetic to the plight of the Eritrean people and in particular the youth who are suffering the most i.e physically, psychologically and denied their future.
      The dilemma is the gulf and disconnect in the mindset of Eritreans and Ethiopians. They (Eritreans and Ethiopians) falsely presume to know each others thoughts and plans, which I find are mostly wrong and out of this world. It is understandable as it is tainted by the history of the two countries created when they were one nation and later by the war of 1998.
      But the most baffling and dismaying fact is the trick that is always played by PIA and repeated by many Eritreans including the well informed that the current Ethiopia government has an ulterior plan to destroy Eritrea, which can not but the farthest from the truth.
      Eritreans as is manifested here by the author of this article are stuck in the mind set of liberation created by hardship endured and the trauma sustained by the destructive war for liberation. The struggle was legitimate and the price they paid for the independence of their country is worth while and I praise them for their tenacity.
      However they fail to understand while there are some Ethiopians who want to reverse the Eritrean independence and want Ethiopia to invade Eritrea and occupy it ( These are fewer of the same people the Eritreans fought during the struggle and do not by any means represent the current government or the people of Ethiopia) most Ethiopians including yours truly would pay any price for that not to happen.

      I couldn’t agree more with you Fatima, we (Ethiopians) have moved on and we don’t factor in Eritrea or Eritreans in our internal politic or life but it seems Eritreans are not yet free from the their colonized mind set they use Ethiopia as a scapegoat for their failure internal or external, including their brazen act of illegitimate invasion of neighbouring countries and interference in the internal affairs of other countries, which has brought Eritrea more woe than anything.
      Sebhat Nega is misquoted by the author SAAY. Sebhat many times and unambiguously always supported and defended the Eritrean independence, His support of the Eritrean independence during the struggle and still now has subjugated him to hate and attack by few and the same Ethiopians who never wanted Eritrea to be free.
      Finally Eritreans have failed to see their Ethiopian friends and supporters of the Eritrean independence and perverse as it may, incessantly attacked the very people who stood by them during the hardest time in their history in the past and still now. Now the time has come for the Ethiopians to say enough is enough and exclude or excuse them selves from anything Eritrean including their new struggle to depose the monster dictator they created who is destroying Eritrea. They want to explain all Eritrean failure by the war of Badme, which is banal. There were/are many countries whose boundaries weren’t or aren’t demarcated and they don’t go into self-destruction because of border issue.
      Sorry to derive some Eritreans cause celebre but more than 90% of Ethiopians do not want reunification. There are many Ethiopians who would like complete dissociation and don’t want any kind of interaction with Eritrea leave alone to reunite or invade and occupy. Ethiopians have woken up and understand very well that their economic and social well being is dependent on peace and progress and not on ports. Eritreans are as mentioned above stuck in the old mind set, which was created by the old Ethiopian regimes and inculcated in the minds of Eritreans that Ethiopia can not survive with out Eritrea or it’s ports.
      The current Ethiopian government, which the Eritreans love to hate has done one thing which has drastically changed Ethiopia and Eritrea and the mind set of Ethiopians for ever. That it has proven that Ethiopia doesn’t need Eritrea but Eritrea has yet to prove that it can survive with out Ethiopia. That is why most Ethiopians now understand and support the current Ethiopian governments declared stance that we don’t have enemies but poverty and that we can extricate ourselves out of poverty and become prosperous and secure by hard work and peace and not war. We also wish Eritrea peace and prosperity.

    • Peace!

      Dear Fatima,

      There is nothing absurd if you listened to what aboy Sibhat said, and in fact that’s exactly what this article about which makes your comment a total deflection. But what is more ironic is that instead of helping analyze what triggered for such article and give your take on what would be the proper response to it, you chose to take things out of context and make a wild accusation as if we Eritreans blame Ethiopia for our problems which is totally absurd. However, if Ethiopia continues to interfere in our internal affairs, only a fool, a stooge, or a bigot citizen wouldn’t respond to that. I couldn’t even imagine here we have an Ethiopian big man instigating uproar and you telling us to shut***, really? Finally the answer to your question is: as long as it continues to interfere in our internal affairs, and you know that you are just pretending.

      regards

      • Fetima Dechasa

        Peace,

        Those that live in a glass house shouldn’t be throwing rocks. The previous article to this was about how your government is harboring a direct threat to Ethiopia. Show me where Ethiopia is doing what your rogue of a government is doing? Do we supply arms to terrorist like the Al Shabab and support or be utilized as a tool for Eritrea’s enemies? No, you know why? Because we have better things to do with our lives. I don’t have to deflect from anything, I spoke the honest truth, which is Eritrea/Eritreans always use Ethiopia for their short comings. As long as your unpredictable and mentally unstable governing body continues to cause a direct threat by harboring those who wish ill on our country and people, Ethiopia should have every right to do everything and anything possible to ensure such immanent threat is eradicated. You don’t like it, that’s your problem, not mine. As for the rest of your statements, nothing but utter hot air to appease your own internal conflict. Remember, when you point your finger at us, three are pointing back at you. End of/

  • Peace!

    Hi All,

    “You could spend a lifetime marveling at the criminality of the Eritrean government, if you were not so awestruck by its stupidity.” Can’t agree more.

    regards

  • This is a great article, which tries to explain vividly the multitude of
    failures of a government of one man, by one man, for the benefit of the same one man and his cohorts. Nevertheless, blaming Ethiopia that she bears the ultimate responsiblity for every past, present and future failures of an incompetent government, and trying to anchor the blame on Ethiopia, is not fair.

    Ethiopia wants Eritrea with few Eritreans, i.e. without Eritreans that fought
    for her independence, the Gedli generation, and that she has found a subtle and effective way of achieving this by prolonging the rule of DIA, while the dictator is indirectly facilitating and serving Ethiopia’s interests and dreams of creating subordinate Eritreans, as the Gedli generation dies out of old age, and the young is made to flee the country, is difficult to digest.

    The truth is that, it is the Gedli generation that is ruling Eritrea, and
    Ethiopia cannot be responsible if this generation of Eritrean elites want to keep Eritrea in bondage until they all die out, without any plan for the future of the country.

    Accepting or denying ones past history (especially when it resides in
    the far away past) is not everything. History has its uses and drawbacks. What matters most is the history people of any given generation make in the here and now. If their actions result in positive or negative historic decisions, it will affect their lives in the present and the lives of the immediate future generation accordingly. Therefore, it is up to each nation and generation to choose and take past history for its positive contributions.

    When Eritrean intellectuals still believe that Ethiopia is to blame for
    the actions of the worst dictator on earth, then, there is a danger that he
    might as well feel that in a way he is absolved of his sins, and his supporters might also believe that DIA did what he did, because he was forced to do so, under the negative influence of Ethiopia.

    The problems of Eritrea and their solutions are found within Eritrea and
    with the Eritrean people. Until this fact is understood by all Eritrean, there
    is a danger that no solution will ever be found for the predicament of the
    Eritrean people.

    • saay7

      Selamat Horizon:

      When you say “blaming Ethiopia that she bears the ultimate responsiblity for every past, present and future failures of an incompetent government, and trying to anchor the blame on Ethiopia, is not fair.”, you have to know that that is a straw man argument because I never said that “Ethiopia blames the ultimate responsibility.” Almost all of the article is devoted to how we Eritreans failed in navigating through the morass of international affairs.

      Let me use your post as a springboard to address some comments made by others:

      1. One can say that our forray into Hanish in 1995 or Djibouti in 1996 was a case of a new nation finding its voice. One can even make the argument that how we stumbled into war with Ethiopia is a case of us misinterpreting our relationship with TPLF. We have no excuse, none, for how we stumbled into Djibouti in 2008 and how we handled it’s aftemath.

      2. I make the argument that how we got sanctioned does not demonstrate that the world is not fair. If someone then says SAAY is blaming the world, etc then that person is what we used to call as kids “shiro” or farfaroni and suffering from English conprehension challenges;

      3. When I say “Ethiopia” I mean it’s ruling regime. If Ethiopians want to pretend that they have a representative government it’s a free country. Did it represent their views when it believed that the Eritrean question is a colonial question or when it will end up saying (for purely politically expedient reasons) that it is not? Did it represent their views when it believed that it had exhausted diplomatic options during 1998-2000 or when it is saying it didn’t? Actually, from my perspective, it’s those who pin their hopes on Ethiopia (again by ethiopia I mean it’s government) that I consider a threat to Eritrean liberation on par with those who expect liberation from international Islamist movement. They are not just badly mistaken but a menace to Eritrea.

      4. The discussion on whether Eritrea is an authoritarian or totalitarian state misses the point (as Emma and Sem have, of late, being addicted to missing the point.). The point is not some academic jargon: it goes to the very heart of whether an Eritrea born and bred resistance can have legs.

      Saay

      • Dear Saay,

        If by Ethiopia, you mean the government of Ethiopia, then I have no problem with that. The things that transpired between TPLF and EPLF in the medda and after they landed in Addis and in Asmara, respectively, and why their
        relations became so sour, is not known to many Ethiopians.

        Collaboration of interest is time limited, and this may be the main reason why each side is so much disappointed with the other. It led us to a nasty war in the past; and let us hope that it would not end up in another war. In addition, if the government of Ethiopia not only believes but also manages to
        control the strings that move things in Asmara, then it is the government of Eritrea and those who support it that are to blame.

        Regards.

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Selam Saay,

        First I asked you whether you believe on what you have quoted in your article about the guy whom you converse with. All my attempt was, as I put it: “I need clarification” about the statement. You brought the statement and I asked you about that. Second you sound a little bit “un-saay” to critic academic literature to call it “academic jargon” as CEO of academic institution.

        Recently you wrote about the concept of “democratic coup” completely founded on academic research. So when you need them you use them for your argument, and when you don’t need them they are “academic jargon.” BTW your article is perfect with me without that quotation.

        Regards,
        Amanuel Hidrat

      • Semere Andom

        Hi Saleh:

        Delineate, demarcate or whatever word you prefer, but please do not say our foray, we got sanctioned, we stumbled because it is not true: that we, Eritreans did not make the foray into Hanish, we did not get sanctioned, we did not stumble on Djibouti. PFDJ/EPLF made the foray, got sanctioned, stumbled on Djibouti. Just same argument when we say cleanse./weed out PFD we(Eritreans) do not man to dismantle/weed out every average Joe PFDJ or what Gadi calls every card carrying “EnoyTebetus”
        There is new break though in this comment, which Eritrean group or group pin their hopes on Ethiopia to liberate them? Receiving help from Ethiopia while owning the issue to defeat a common enemy is different than pining (ascribing) is different. I heard this before the reason I called it break through is because I am hearing it from the opposition, you in this case.

        • saay7

          Dear Sem:

          The prosecution rests.

          Your witness

          Saay

          • Semere Andom

            Selam Saleh
            Your honor the defense asks the court to dismiss the prosecution’s case on the basis of infringing on the freedoms of speech as it falsely alleges that the free speech is danger to Eritrea. It is not. In the referendum the question was allowed and people voted unanimously voted in favor of separation. It did not endanger it then and it will not endanger it now
            Your honor, I would have told you who really the danger is for Eritrean’s sovereignty but you will over rule me, so I abstain 😉

          • saay7

            Ahlen Sem:

            Your honor, Counselor had drifted into the wrong courtroom. Would you kindly remind him that we are adjudicating the case of individuals and organizations who “are delaying [Eritrea’s] transformation.” Eritrea’s transformation will require serious discussion of serious ideas by serious people, not those who use the flux as a period to glorify their weird fetish, nostalgia and fantasies. There is another room where they are discussing “danger to Eritrean sovereignty”: I should know because I am often a defendant there:)

            saay

          • Semere Andom

            Selam Saleh:
            Your honor this is gual neger 🙂
            Ladies and gentlemen of the jury here is the defense’s closing summation:-)
            http://awate.com/poets-corner/#comment-1577413486

  • Mahmud Saleh

    Saleh,
    I enjoyed it; well written, and eloquently condensed. The following quote from your article summarizes it up all.
    ” It may very well be that Eritrea is right and the whole world is wrong, but there is a price to pay for defying the world and it is the responsibility of Eritrea’s policymakers to take that consideration into their calculation and there doesn’t appear to be any evidence that they did so.”

  • Nitricc

    SAAY Nice post.
    One of the main short coming of the so called opposition is the failure to differentiate the good from the bad in the PFDJ system. And I appreciate when you try to differentiate and point the bad part on to a specific target. It is kind of silly to throw every PFDJ in one basket and declare PFDJ must be eradicated and then expect a change from inside of PFDJ. If you are excepting any change and up rising within the PFDJ military that means there are members PFDJ who are “good” enough wanting the change to take place. So, my take is avoid using the generalizing term all “PFDJ”. If you keep generalizing, then you are forcing the “good” and change seeking PFDJ in to defending the Regime to the end. It is only fair to hold the man at the top hold him responsible and accountable.
    I wouldn’t put much stake on the drunken old man’s illusion. The probability the old man was under influence of alcohol exceeds the case of dementia he suffers from.
    His agazi forces are busy guarding up- rising Universities all over Ethiopia let alone to master enough army to invade Eritrea.

    http://www.zehabesha.com/amharic/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Because_I_am_Oromo_.png

    • Fetima Dechasa

      Natricc,

      Ati fayyuma? Kun maal inni photo?

      Don’t you get tired of deflecting and diverting your own issues? Why can’t you and your like worry about Eritrea instead of Ethiopia? Please don’t use Oromo people for you’re misguided agenda. Naagatti

      • Nitricc

        Fetima.
        I know what you mean.
        you tell me! it is only about time when………
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxa22t7xAEg

        • Fetima Dechasa

          Natricc,

          Again, what do Oromo people have to do with what’s being discussed here? How does this concern you?

  • Amanuel Hidrat

    Hello Saay,

    A good historical summary of the last decade and half of our contemporary regional conflicts in general and our confused Eritrean politics in particular. A good reflection my friend.

    Amanuel Hidrat

    • Kokhob Selam

      Teacher Amanuel,after reading this , and reading what Aboy Sbhat is saying I went back to read what professor Tesfastion Medhane said in German spet.2012. combining all and analyzing it seems it is time to take speedy action meeting to end the final stage and push forward.It seems this very important time which will affect our long struggle more than before.

  • Semere Andom

    Hi Sal:
    Excellent distillation of many ideas that we as Eritreans have debated over they years.
    Sebhat Negga’s call to reconsider TPLF’ s stand on Eritrea’s question is disturbing. But to me it is one of TPLF’s master piece. They always confirmed, reconfirmed expressed their unequivocal stand on Eritrean’s questions, to do it now when Eritrea is very weak, literally they would walk into Asmara in days, when Eritreans are at their weakest in terms of their unity and very disturbing. Their stand was strategic and not based on unwavering belief in the yearning of the Eritrean question, your should write a book “mergetsiTPLF bzaba qalsi Eritrea kavey lavey” They gauged the fighting spirit and mood of the youth in their “custody”, they measure the unprincipled and lunatic leadership that humiliated its by reducing them to the slaves of the powerful military men.
    Eritreanism predates PFDJ and EPLF and it the later saw attened its funeral with jubilation

    • Amanuel Hidrat

      Selam Sem,

      Does it matter at this point? I don’t think so. Whether they call it colonization or secession, we already got our independence – fully recognized in the international community. Beside, as far as Ethiopia recognized our independence, which Ato Sibhat didn’t oppose our self-determination in his remark, it doesn’t matter which historical route it was, and how we acquire it. History has made its closure on the issue of our self-determination. The way forward is how these two countries live peacefully and cooperatively.

      The big hurdle was the impression of Ethiopians that “Ethiopia can’t live without Eritrea.” EPRDF under the leadership of Meles Zenawi have changed that psychological mentality. Ethiopia is thriving economically and politically marching in the right direction. So the argument will remain only for academic consumption, and it won’t change the reality. They understood and learned from the decades of war that only brought destruction and poverty. Their focus is on development. Will Issayas and the ultra-nationalist Eritreans exploit Ato Sebhat’s rhetorical remarks? Absolutely yes. We should be vigilant to make aware what is real on the ground to our people and not to be carried away by such remarks.

      Amanuel Hidrat

      • Semere Andom

        Ahlen Emma:
        From that angle, I agree with you. But I was think along these lines:
        Ethiopia is growing economically and in a decade it will be the third largest economy in the continent behind SA and Nigeria, if the later still is around as nation in which case Ethiopia will be the second largest. This means the port access issue is even more dire for it to keep growing. Ethiopia has been reluctant in supporting a united opposition, this tells you they want a weak Eritrea, I do not believe they will invade and occupy Eritrea, but they can have Assab, their reluctance to support the opposition and their exuberance to support the Afar and Kunama movements, I believe is to weaken Eritrea, so changing stand on Eritrea if this is indeed official is paramount. A broken Eritrea is not synonymous with independent Eritrea . This adds to the already several moving parts in our country if you add the low land league movement.
        the questions what would Eritreans do about the scenario I am painting, they are divided, their pride eroded, humiliated by 23 years of serfdom. I agree with you that Ethiopia may not be interested in war, but how about if they it is a walk on the park for them to occupy Eritrea the parts of Eritrea they want, would the world intervene to bomb them?
        But Those who romantasize Erireans would tell you this is a different ball-game and if TPLF tampers with Eritrea’s sovereignty Eritreans will coalesce around a united front and liberate every inch of our land, do not be fooled by the current docility,”hizbina libi yebiyu yehwatna elu iyu eshish zblom”
        sem

        • Fetima Dechasa

          Hello Semere,

          “The port access issue is even more dire for it to keep growing.”

          Are you serious? Eritrean ports are no longer our worry.

          • Semere Andom

            Hi Fetima:
            Ethiopia has a potential to become an economic super power in the region baring that something hitherto unknown derailing it. It will need sea access, land access to fuel that audacious dream. Unless some Ethiopian astrophysics genius creates /invents a port 😉 Ethiopia will eventually need secure port access to port to truly become economic powerhouse. You can survive with the current configurations but I do not think just survival is your plan

          • Nitricc

            You are the only the one and the sharp. I guess drooling with old TPLF voids makes you an expert on Dedebit style economics. Do you know what this mean…
            http://www.monitor.al/images/2012/04/debt.jpg

          • Semere Andom

            Sanctions still in place, Nitricc and I am not talking about UN sanctions on Eritrea 😉

          • Fetima Dechasa

            Semere,

            Rest assured, we understand that we are landlocked and we will continue to establish cooperations with our trade partners such as Djibouti, Kenya, Sudan, and Somaliland. Eritrea is not and will not be a factor in our future economic development. As for your assessment of what is to become of Ethiopia on our quest to development, that’s just your own self importance speaking.

          • Kokhob Selam

            what ever we say at this moment will not change the truth. we are one people in two nations. why sister nation Ethiopia has to worry about sea access when her own sister own two big ports and 1200km long open to serve sea access? and what else, the progressive and advanced government we are working to create is so open the sea port will become a busy market for the world and that is huge advantage to Ethiopia. please think of our coming generation. generation who will live in peace and prosperous climate.

          • Fetima Dechasa

            Dearest Kokhob,

            I am quite hopeful that the next generation will have the courage and tenacity to curb the ever so damaged relationship of the two nation, God willing. but for the time being, people like Semere shouldn’t be worrying about an hypothetical threat from Ethiopia for sea ports. Our father’s generation were paralyzed by the fear of Ethiopia being landlocked twenty plus years go but as destiny would have it, they survived. What will be different in the future? Even if Eritrea and Ethiopia were to mend the fences and become trade partners, Eritrea will be entering a very competitive market with the others neighboring nations for Ethiopia’s business, no preferential treatment.

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Dear Sem,
          That line of thinking is only for those who do not understand the strategy of the current government of Ethiopia. Let us clear this foggy understanding. The Ethiopian government more than anything want the Isaayas government to go. Because the regime is a menace to their economic and infra-structural development. They want to use their human resource (the current army on the border watch) for such strategy. Holding asseb of not using Ethiopia make them to look alternatives, like Mombassa, Djibuti, port-Sudan that helps them to be a regional actor. And let me tell you this: Even if the Ethio-Eritrean relationship is back to normal and start economic cooperation, which allows Ethiopia to use the Port of Asseb, they will not stop the other ports which are using them currently. Asseb is important for us more than to Ethiopia. Asseb is our resource, and if we don’t use it for our economic resource, it only shows how our mind works. So my point in short is, there is a complete paradigm shift in the Ethiopian thinking. They are completely focused on economic development and fighting poverty. They have made a good stride on those areas.To the contrary we are stuck to our old mentality and old rivalry. We need to change our mind.

          Regards,
          Amanuel Hidrat

          • Amde

            Hi Amanuel,

            I do not agree with your statement that “The Ethiopian government more than anything want the Isaayas government to go”. I think more than anything they want to avoid a breakdown in governance creating a Somalia on the Mereb. In that, I believe the world community is in agreement. From that point of view, the Issayas led Eritrea is a bad but manageable situation that cannot be sustainable long term.

            To their credit, the Ethiopian government has tried to support the establishment of a friendly post-Issayas regime that is as broadbased as possible. I suspect history will judge that no-one was more committed to sustained, united Eritrean independence than the EPRDF – even more so than EPLF. They are not to be blamed that Eritrean social and political groups cannot seem to form a workable consensus.

            I do not agree with what Sem is proposing – namely that Ethiopia will physically take chunks of Eritrean territory. Not because it fears Eritrean army resistance now, or a guerrilla movement. My feeling is that Eritrean Nationalists can start but will not be able to sustain a “hot” resistance that is secular and nationalist in this age of ISIS. It would just be too costly, and create the very thing feared – a collapse of the state creating ungoverned space very inviting for groups with ulterior motive. So it has to be a more or less all or none deal as opposed to territorial chunks – a very expensive proposition. Against those risks, the potential benefit of marginal increase in port access capacity seem not worth it.

            I think a more likely scenario is what is happening in Somalia now – which is that Ethiopia is finding and nurturing separate political relationships with discrete political constituencies. These would be the “strings” that can be pulled later on when a new post-Issayas system is being cobbled together.

            This might hurt the pride of classic Eritrean nationalists enamored with sovereignty. However, I would like to remind them that Issayas did state once that next time there is war with Ethiopia it will be fought along the AleWuha border – de facto declaring that EPLF considered the TPLF its policy instrument for influencing Ethiopian internal politics. The reality is there are always preferred political partners – and the more one has the better.

            Amde

          • Semere Andom

            Hi Amde:
            Well, One of the difference between TPLF and EPLF(Melles and DIA), in the former reading between line is need in the laer is well as Gebru said shall think tank
            What do you make about this speech

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRWsjhXo7Zg

          • Amde

            Well youtube cut off in the middle of the speech. I think real life is subjective, so the fear of being a pariah state is not an absolute gurantee. This is what I get from Saay’s article, that in as much as there are rules and laws, a lot of time things are how they are because of how they are managed (skillfully or not).

            Still, I think he is right – the cost is not worth the price.

            I wonder what would have happened if in May 1993, Eritrea had gained independence with Assab as an Ethiopian as opposed to Eritrean port. Would EPLF have thought a policy of Ethiopian encirclement was a project with any reasonable chance of success under such circumstance?

            Amde

          • dawit

            Selam Amde;

            It is nice to read once again your contribution on Ethiopian and Eritrean relation. I also wahtced the video clip of Meles on the subject of Asab Port and the border issues between Ethiopia and Eritrea. He claimed that Ethiopia respect international treaties signed by previous governments. He mentioned about the treaties signed by Menelik signed in 1900, 1902 and 1908. He admitted he was not expert in law, but he was able to glance the treaties signed by Menelik. I wish he hd read it in detail or consulted experts before he claimed Bademe as Ethiopian territory and declared a war on the border issue. It could have averted the disaster that followed the war in both nations, because the world court saw the same documents and decided indeed Bademe was within Eritrean territory.

            On the port of Assab he gave a reasonable answer why Ethiopia does not need to go to war to occupy the port by force contrary to the treaties signed by Menelik, for those Ethiopians who are whining about the loss of Assab and an outlet to the sea. He tried to convince them using from economics point of views. However he told the Washington crowed that even though using Assab port is advantageous to both Ethiopia and Eritrea, he preferred he rather use Djibouti instead of paying Eritrea the foreign exchange that it needed badly. On that point the crowd applauded expressing their approval. That was the only time his speech was appreciated. That really tells a lot what kind of hate is engrained in the Habesha mentality. With a tradition so deeply engrained, it won’t be easy, In other words, the focus on working a system for maximum mutual economic benefit is so engrained it has almost become heredity. We rather prefer to see our neighbor starve to death today even though his death will bring death to ourselves tomorrow! ምቀኛ የራሱ መጋኛ ይባላል::
            Now let us see what other cultures deal with conflicts with their enemies. U.S. fought with Japan and Germany bitterly during the WWII. When the war was over Japan and Germany were completely devastated and defeated. U.S. emerged from the war relatively strong economically. Immediately after the war they decided to reconcile and rebuild with their better enemies. As a result Japan and Germany were able to recover from the devastation of the war and became strong trading partners of the U.S. Today the three countries enjoy one of the highest standard of living in the world. Can you imagine if Ethiopia and Eritrea decided to leave the wars behind them and were able to normalize their relationships, if Ethiopia accepted the Border decision and pulled its army out of Eritrean territory and Eritrean government demobilized its army and allow young Eritreans to pursue their life without worrying to an indefinite national services?
            What would the cost of living in Ethiopia especially for the poor be, if Ethiopia used Asab for free, instead of paying the high port fee through Djibouti managed by Qatar which adds to the prices of goods imported to the country! What do you think Ethiopian young girls spend their life working as maids or domestic servants in the Middle East if Ethiopia’s economy is growing by double digits as it is claimed by the government? Why would an Ethiopian/Eritrean leave their country taking so much risk of life and death in exile if there is peace in the region?
            Peace
            dawit

          • Abay

            Amanuel

            This is the time you and your likes have to stir opinions of your people to the urgent and pressing issues you have at hand. It seems to be the beginning of the end of Eritrea’s dictators but are your ready for what you should do then? There is nothing uglier than civil chaos. How ready are you to avert chaos? Are your people focusing on that? Dictators use divide and rule mechanisms and the side effect of that is there is chaos when they are gone. You are at this critical time and any missteps can result in a catastrophe. The days of PIA are numbered, just a matter of time, and time I fear is what you are short of. Mind you, only Eritreans can bring about a true solution to their country. Amanuel, form the comments I know about you, I think you are one of the people history has placed to shoulder this burden. Power vacuum in a country with a lot of AK 47s is not exactly a comforting situation. Combat diversions and focus on the issues of what to handle transition. You have to pay any price to make transition happen as peacefully as possible. Die hard and stubborn thinking has to give way to compromising. Personal interests have to be sacrificed. It is ok even necessary to have differences but they have to be settled in round table discussions. Eritreans have have gone so much through with PIA and they deserve peace. Are you ready? Are you organized enough, united enough? I believe that is a priority. This fear that Ethiopia will reverse its position regarding Eritrea’s independence is really a diversion, intended or unintended. I belong to the older Ethiopian generation who adamantly opposed Eritrea’s independence, just trying to be honest here. But now I am a supporter of its independence. Our great leader (I say great leader out of my personal good will simply because that is what he was, I am not in any politics) the late PMMZ. “let Eritrea go” and focused on the nations development. He did this against public opinion. Many despised him for it. But he proved us all wrong. The vast majority now know he did the right thing. Now our leaders are steering the country into unprecedented progress. Ethiopia is busy doing its homework in this line and it is just like the sky will fall type of thing to think it will invade Eritrea. Only to punish PIA in cases where he sends terrorists to Ethiopia will there be any incursions and even then it will simply be a “go-punish-come back” kind of thing. If any invasion is wanted, there is no better time than now. As much as we want to see PIA go, Ethiopia cannot do it because it simply is illegal. This fear of reversing Eritrea’s independence is simply ghost hunting, intended or unintended all the same. It destructs your focal point. Other destructions, many discussions seem to focus on side issues, specially on Ethiopia. Everyone has to read this loud and clear: Any relationship between two counties has to be interest bound and this applies to Ethio-Eritrean relationships. As much as you work for your national interest so do we. When interests intersect, we cooperate and if they don’t, we don’t. Simple. That is the rule of the game in international relations, and every game is bound by it, simple. Many discussions seem to be focused on wishing Ethiopia’s involvement in Eritrean affairs but forget it can only do so when it comes in line with its interests which is the normal and healthy to do. Many others engage in abusive comments; name calling of Ethiopian people, insulting us, our leaders, dropping hints of suspicion adding fuel to burning hatred. This will not solve any problems Eritrea has. If anything It is just like a temporary relief a drunkard gets from alcohol abuse: forgets the problems, but when the alcohol wears off is back to square one again. Now, Amanuel, you and your likes are placed at a unique time of history. What you do with that will possibly affect the millions. I believe this is the time you and your likes give your everything to the country you love so much and one of the everythings you give is working on paving the way to make sure there are as few bumps as possible in the road of transition. Amanuel, people like you are the hopes of the nation. You have to work hard to increase the numbers of your likes. And then unite and organize, repeat unite and organize. You can dot it, it is doable. I know it is easier said than done but I have the confidence in you, you can do it. I don’t mean to lecture on you, just written out of good intent. I smell some comments full of the abusive words being thrown at this after I post it: Buzz off! Does it concern you? Yes it does. What happens in Eritrea affects Ethiopia. Even more, you are our brothers and sisters. Our relationship is what the ferenjis call “love hate relationship”. All the best for Eritrea and it people.

            Abay

      • dawit

        Selam Amanuel;
        You are right Amanuel, there is nothing Ethiopia could do to reverse Eritrean Independence, short of outright invasion of Internationally recognized country. In Amharic proverb, ‘ጅብ ከሄደ ዉሻ ጮኸ”. Despite his autocratic rule, PIA was genius in coxing Eritrean Independence to the finish line. He made Meles to sign for Eritrean
        full independence without if or but with his fingers, and his party TPLF and
        its leaders can do about it. Their occupation of Eritrean territory by force
        and trying to change Eritrean government no matter how harsh it may be to its
        people is illegal. Those kind of remarks can serve for internal consumption of
        confusing Ethiopian people who are weeping and whining for the loss of Asab
        port or outlet to the sea.

      • Yoty Topy

        Hi Aman,
        You really hit the spot there. Who could forget the slogan: ” Anget Tekorto..?.” It looks easy now as is always in hindsight, but back in the early 90s when hyper-nationalism was at its peak in Ethiopia , EPRDF’s unwavering position on Eritrea was brave to say the least. It is not hard to imagine a scenario where by the party could have drummed up anti-Eritrean fervor just to consolidate power which obviously would have been an unwise position but it is not that far-fetched. Is it?
        Anyway, as you nicely pointed out, look forward. This chapter of this region’s history is rather a period that everyone would prefer to forget. No one comes out as a winner from this mess. Not Eritrea. Not Ethiopia.

    • saay7

      Tegadalai Sem:

      When you are reviewing TPLF’s “masterpiece” consider, its two pieces:

      1. ህዝባዊ ወያነ ሓርነት ትግራይ/ህውሓት/ ‘’ሕቶ ኤርትራ – ሕቶ መግዛእቲ‘ዩ’’ ክብል ኣብ ፖለቲካዊ ፕሮግራሙ ዘስፈሮ መርገፂ ዳግም ክምርመር ዘለዎ እዩ ኢሎም ንነዊሕ እዋን መራሒ ህውሓት ዝነበሩ ኣቶ ስብሓት ነጋ::

      “The Eritrean question a colonial question” is a position that Tigray People’s Liberation Front/TPLF had incorporated in its program, and that’s something the requires reconsideration, said long-term leader of TPLF, Mr. Sebhat Negga.

      2. ምስ ኵናት ኢትዮጵያ ኤርትራ ብዝተኣሳሰረ እውን እቲ ኵናት መንግስቲ ኤርትራ ብዝሓዞ መርገፂ ክካይድ’ዃ እንተነበሮ ኢህወዴግ ንዲፕሎማሲያዊ መስርሕ ዕድል ኣይሃበን ኢሎም ኣቶ ስብሓት ነጋ።

      As it pertains to the Ethiopia-Eritrea war, although the war had to be conducted in accordance to Eritrean stance [choice to go to war], EPRDF did not give the diplomatic path sufficient chance*, said Ato Sebhat.

      This is 7 months before Ethiopia’s next elections. A lot of adjectives come to mind but “masterpiece” and “principled” wouldn’t be them.

      saay

      *same thing I have been saying since 1999, but maybe some will listen to Aboy Sebhat now:)

      • Tesfabirhan WR

        Selam Sal,

        Re-consideration has nothing to do. If they/he say/s, it is only because we are revising our history. Instead of progressivists, we became revisionists (YG and like minded people are best examples). If TPLF are on the revisionist line, it will be nothing but a grave to their political adventure. I believe Ethiopia will not revise history unless it is getting into confusion. Confusion will not let them develop but collapse. The end of history comes when one stops making history but revising.

        tes

        • Amanuel Hidrat

          Dear Tes,

          They found it the secret and that is peace and development. They have learned from past history. Past history only brought to them destruction and destitute. They will continue on the current trajectory.

          regards,

          • Tesfabirhan WR

            Dear Amanuel H.,

            Indeed it is. Peace and development are the only means. Sometimes, we assume the whole world is conspiring against Eritrea (I don’t understand why Sal buys such ideas) though we rather conspired the whole world against our way(the PFDJ line of thinking).

            We need to remove the FEAR phobia of Saay and it is time for him to harvest what he fought for though he is afraid of the final kick.

            By the way, I fully support EFND’s proposal and I am ready now even by accepting the concept of reconciliation (as it is more than ever clearly explained in the document).

            The way to go is now to embrace and reach all the domains of Eritrean society. I will discuss on the others threads as I have some questions for further detailed clarifications. For the time being, thank you for being part of such dynamic conference.

            Hawka

            tes

          • Nitricc

            Aman, you are missleading your people. you are helping the weyane. you can’t be that naeive and blind. but whatever your believes are, please don’t deceive the Eritrean people from getting ready to defend themselves. the TPLF dream is to bring Eritreans under their full control not development, not peace. again believe what you believe but don’t misslead the people from defending themselves.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Hey Nitricc,

            I abhor misleading and mischieving to the core. I have never mislead to our people. I try to protect them and aware them about the misleading and lying of PFDJ propaganda machine. So throw your accusation to the regime that brought the misery to our people. As of now the policy of Ethiopia is economic development, and the facts speaks on the ground. If we take as a baseline(reference for comparison) the economy of Ethiopia during Derg, Ethiopia now has made a big strides by many folds in its socio-economic development. There is no misleading about this, and there is no misleading about our country that is going downhill.

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Dear Aman H

            “…..if there is no war provacation from our side.” was your statement. You are concluding any hostility that may arise is squarely from the Eritrean side. That’s misleading Amanuel. We know the adventures of the regime, we also know what Ethiopian regime, by the way the same regime since 1991, has been doing to degrade Eritrean organizations with national agendas; we know it’s been encouraging ethnic based organizations openly. So, it’s incumbent upon you and for your reputation that you be clear on certain areas. I don’t like delving into Ethiopian politics, but as an observer, they will need to work harder in many fronts.

          • Tesfabirhan WR

            Dear Mahmuday,

            Aman better knows his statement and message and it is unfair to intervene here. Despite this, let me shade my views.

            Whether one force attempts a reaction or not depends on the initial force generated into (this is Newton’s law and is true in our daily life, whether it is political, societal, or economical). This being the truth, Aman’s statement is in line to this if we understand PFDJ’s international policies on dealing affairs.

            I can not rule out that an opportunity driven potential threat exists. The truth is, we are the only and ultimate forces to abort this potential. The more we become weak the more provocation will come as a threat to Eritrean sovereignty. As far as PFDJ continued to arm opposition groups that threatens the very existence of a force that rules Ethiopia, the target force will obviously exert if not greater but equal demeaning reaction.

            Let’s now be out of the closed political mantra of the horn. let’s concentrate our internal working ability, our strength, our well to be economic policies, let’s not bark on a launched rocket from our neighbors. We can launch our own rocket, we can be strong enough to defend our rights and our sovereignty. Spending on learning development policies, both internal and outreach, has helped me to understand how really PFDJ’s policies are weird enough on their peace and development plans. PFDJ did not declare that our primary enemy is “poverty” rather he conspired the whole world for our status. This wrong externally mirrored outlook hindered us from figuring who we are exactly.

            We are a sovereign country. That is it. We are members of the international community. I am not an advocate of “go-out for good” policy rather “come-in for good” policy. The eastern philosophy reminds us that we can only be peace in ourselves and then with our surroundings if and only if we are able to build peace within ourselves. Eritrean society had that norm, value and ethics of being himself. it is not of one days or years legacy but of centuries or more than two millenniums legacy. We were the owners of our own faiths, wealth and health. How then we are selling this rich prosperity that resided within our society by the so called ‘Marxist-Leninist” ideology. We, Eritreans are not materialist individual view can differ, I am talking on societal level). Eritreans had rich experience on handling internal and external issues. if they see these values ruining, they fight for it. PFDJ values are not ours and hence we will not fight to keep them, let them go for good, let them die-out.

            Dear Mahmuday, as much as brave you are, as much as relentless fighter you are, as far as you are the fight truly genuine reconciliatory you are, I believe also you are internally focused. Let’s do that together. To tell you the truth, I am not that much blank on the Ethiopian politics. One statement though guides my principle, “as far as we stay weak, they will try to knock our doors and this is because we are neighbors.” This is because of natural law.

            Huka
            tes

          • Mahmud Saleh

            “as far as we stay weak, they will try to knock our doors and this is because we are neighbors.” I agree.
            “I can not rule out that an opportunity driven potential threat exists.” Agreed teg/tes
            That’s why I replied to that sentence of Aman.
            The rest, I have no idea how to connect them. But one thing caught my attention. In your introductory sentence, you said, ” Aman better knows his statement and message and it is unfair to intervene here.” Is not it fair then to ask you this: ” If you consider thios as an ‘unfair’ intervention, why do you repeat the same thing on me?” This is just to show you sometimes preconceived notions blind us. I focus on the message of the moment tes. I hope you have noticed this. I don’t care if someone is EPLF/ELF/TPLF/EPRDF….and so on. Aman replied to me courtiously, and I will give him my take and why I replied to him the way I did. BTW, I was going to let this go, but I believe discussion is better than not.

          • Tesfabirhan WR

            Dear Mahmuday,

            What I said was not to sideline with one or the other. but, to continue the discussion on my own views. Thank you that you believe discussion is better than not and I do believe your stance.

            Dear Mahmuday, when I say “Aman better knows his statement and message and it is unfair to intervene here” what I mean is I shouldn’t intervene between you two. It is a mutual respect. kindly take it in that way. The rest, I repeat again and again, you are a gallant fighter and very inspirational. For that, I read every comment you put carefully and I try to put my comment and it is because I value your input. With the rest also is true, but I am saying it now for you;

            huka
            tes

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Tes
            Thanks for the clarification. You see, respectful discussion in most cases yields positive outcome. I mistook the “unfair intervention” as referring to my reply to Amanuel. Thanks again.

          • Amanuel Hidrat

            Dear Mahmud, Guest, & George,

            Again unless Issayas provoke them for a war, they will not go for a war (keep this statement as a note). That is my reading from inside and outside. Why should they go for a war? All our reaction is from fear of the unknown…. and if we continue with that, we will only paralize ourselves. What we should focus at this time is to remove the cancer of all our ailment, and that is precisely Issayas and his institutions.

            Guest, as much as you believe on what you are saying, I believe also on what I am saying. I see things as they are, define them, and put on them my observation and conclusion. What else you did than what I am doing, except saying your perception. As to the possibility to the war, though I don’t want it to happen, I have never ruled out the “possibility of the possibility” the remote probability, dictated by the unknown at this juncture. Issayas and his institution will live on wars and propaganda of war. Issayas can’t survive at peace and he knows it very well. Ethiopia has learned from the decades of war and they have tasted the products of avoiding wars/peace. What I could urge you at this point is, let us focus to our internal problem. Our country is bleeding profusely. There is no risk from outside. The problem we have is self-induced problem.

            regards,
            Amanuel Hidrat

          • Dear Amanuel Hidrat.

            Ethiopia and Eritrea will not go to war at this stage of their history, each for their own special reasons. In 1998, DIA started the war because he believed that he had the power to force Ethiopia to accept his economic blue print. Today, if he starts a full-scale war with Ethiopia, he knows very well that it will be his end, his death certificate. Not only that Ethiopia has the
            military power to win an easy war, but most importantly, there is no Eritrean who is ready to fight and die for DIA. At least ordinary Eritreans would rather consider the war as a blessing to get rid of the dictator.

            On the Ethiopian side, war is seen as a mistake that should never be committed again. Not only that it will stop the engine of development, but because, they do not want to squander a once a life-time chance of getting out of poverty, changing their country from an example of biblical famine, to a 21st century African awakening lion. Ethiopians are infatuated with the sounds of roaring machines that keep them sleepless during the night, explosions that change hills to rubbles to make way for a new asphalted road, and they cannot
            wait to see an electric train that would travel on land, over bridges and underground. Every day, a road, a bridge, a school, a health centre, or a dam etc, is inaugurated, some sort of agreement with foreign investors is signed and Ethiopians seem to be addicted to these beautiful images and stories. Be sure, they do not want to see again disfigured bodies, weeping mothers, destroyed tanks, buildings, etc, because Ethiopians are getting addicted to life.

            Do you know the story (myth) of “መቶ በላ” (that which eats hundreds) otherwise “automobile”? Was it during emperor Menelik’s period or early years of emperor HSI, when it is said that Addis Ababans attacked a car to save its occupants. It is so funny if it is true. Look where our ancestors were and where their grand children are trying to reach. Ethiopians are proud of these changes, and they do not want to lose them come rain or sunshine, especially to a war with Eritrea. On the contrary, they want Eritrea to emulate Ethiopia’s
            development.

            The harbingers of war are those who knowingly and unknowingly choose the status quo to persist, and as an excuse they bring chaos or Eritrea falling in the hands of Ethiopia. They should have known that as much as Ethiopia is concerned, Eritrea is a hot potato at this stage in her history, and Ethiopia does not want to own Eritrea’s problems. Therefore, Eritreans should not worry about Ethiopia, if they really want to tidy their house.

            Regards.

          • Mahmud Saleh

            Dear AmanH
            As much as you dream to see the plight of our nation is over, there are certain guidelines which could enhance the movement aiming at bringing the long overdue change and seeing off PFDJ for good. One of them is not to overprotect the belligerent side (Ethiopia) at the expence of your nation. Let me ask you these:
            1. How could you be 100% sure Ethiopia doesn’t intend to provoke war against Eritrea? I believe only the PM and his security comittee know this.
            2. Ethiopia openly violated Eritrean sovereignty twice, and they did not deny it; they told the world about it.
            3. Given the fact that both countries host, train, fund and arm insurgent organizations against each other, isn’t it fair to condemn any such acts designed by and launched from each of their territory?
            4. If Ethiopia retaliates against Eritrean based opposition, doesn’t the other have the right to retaliate?
            ***Aman H, I understand your sense of urgency in getting rid of PFDJ, that will get a chance only if prominent people like you draw the line in the sand. Yes, we have to focus on internal issues, but unfortunate statements, like the one you made and continue to make, I fear, could be akin to placing hurdles in our struggle to gain the confidence of Eritreans inside Eritrea, who are the primary owners of the movement for change and the primary target beneficiaries. I personally, oppose both governments’ use of armed opposition in order to topple the other. Ethiopia will continue to be Ethiopia. Like any sovereign nation it will do whatever it takes to enhancing its national interest. Governments have their calculations. They attack when they appear to be seized by peaceful processes; that’s a classic way of deceiving your enemy. Enemy hits you when you thought its attention was somewhere else. I’m not saying its attack is imminent, but putting the ball completely on the Eritrean court and parading Ethiopia as an angel is not right. We’ve been witnessing what has been taking place in activities ranging from arming, logistic and intelligence sharing, and operational supports. Ethiopian Chief of Staff did not hide that. He told them ” The time is now.” I know we differ here. You will tell me “Get PFDJ out at any cost, why not through the help of Ethiopia?” I don’t agree with that. If you believe in that, then, you have lost your trust on your people. Providing help and participating in grooming factions which serve Ethiopian interest and and affecting their mode of struggle and political programs are different. Ethiopia is an active participant in proxy Eritrean politics as Eritrea is a direct participant in doing the same thing. So, you would be expected to discourage both governments and peoples from these type of acts. I fear brother, these type of statements are hurting the cause you are struggling for.
            Wo shukran.

          • Crocus

            Dear Amanuel:

            “All our reaction is from fear of the unknown…. and if we continue with that, we will only paralize ourselves.”

            Well put! It seems to me that the people you responded to and others of their ilk are too challenged to size up the political landscape correctly. They are driven by a nervous impulse, one bordering on schizophrenia. If Ethiopia seeks to invade Eritrea, has there ever been a better time to do so than now?

            At best they suffer from a quixotic bravado. It is a paralysis, nonetheless. If I may borrow from a poet’s language, these people are like “ships sailing on the horizon, never out of sight, and never landing”. At some point they will turn their eyes away in resignation or disgust. Their dreams and efforts are bound to be mocked to death by Time.

            In the meantime, they continue to do immense damage. They create constant distractions, and the dialogue never gets a chance to send roots or proceed smoothly. I see so many commenters being pulled away here and there having to defend themselves, and seeing their efforts wasted on deaf ears. I admire the tenacity, patience, and politeness of many of you who bother to respond.

            The fact is, the world is changing fast, and no year has any resemblance to the one that preceded it. The interest of nations in the post-Cold War period is somewhere else quite different. Nations that band together will do well. Stubborn and rogue regimes like that in Eritrea will wilt quietly. Unfortunately, they will take their nations down with them. They and their misguided or selfish lackeys have no one to blame but themselves. It is beyond me how they can fail to see that in this day and age. Much as nations try to hold on tightly to national borders and political sovereignty, the tides are ominously discouraging, thanks to the impact of technology and the rapid integration of the community of nations.

            Through it all, one fact is paramount. Now and in years to come, the active game, and the arena, all lies in the economic sphere.

          • geroge

            Dear aman, if you are not misleading then you are clueless which is even more dangerous. Ethiopia’s government full time job is destroying Eritrea. Actually it is there only job. I don’t have to remind you that Ethiopia was the architect behind the illegal sanction against Eritrea. Ethiopia bought 200 TANKS from Ukraine or working tirelessly to deny Eritrea from getting investment from global market. And finally the so called economic growth is well think about it for a sec. if you get billions in aid money ofcourse your economy will “GROW”.

          • Binieam

            Nitricc
            Eritrea’s sovereignty lies in the hands of the Eritrean people and it can only be their choice if they place themselves under Ethiopia . That is to say, the belief of an independent Eritrea has to be weak and a desire for union with Ethiopia strong. But is that the reality? No. The problem lies in some peoples inability to see the reality, thus act upon paranoia a distorted viewpoint and priorities. The saying you are your worst enemy applies very true in Eritreans case.

          • Tesfabirhan WR

            Dear Nitricc, the confused one;

            Recenlty, I can see maturity coming into you. I know you do not care but I am building peace with you. No matter how far rejectionist you are still, I see you evolving. This is then a mediation self-talk initiated from a comment put by you and dear Mahmuday. I blogged it because I liked my meditation.

            http://tesredie.wordpress.com/2014/11/01/meditation-on-eri-ethio-co-existence/

            Hawka
            tes

          • george

            Dear tes,
            You called Nitricc, the confused one. Now the question is, what are you? Here is the answer, you are the most confused ever. I mean that in every sense of the word. Your writing is off track, gibberish and full of rage for no reason. It is hard to follow your train of thought. You sound ungrateful towards the Eritrean government that gave you the opportunity to study abroad.

          • Tesfabirhan WR

            dear george,

            You wrote, “You sound ungrateful towards the Eritrean government that gave you the opportunity to study abroad” hmm, To whom should I be grateful? I never denied that I am the one 1 of 10,000 students who this chance and still I am a student. I didn’t gave-up and remained silent like the many comrades who got the same chance.

            Let me simply ask you this; why I am 1 out of the 10,000 students who got this chance, Where are the others? Why the PFDJ government is only sending 25-30 students (and this is for masters degree) to continue higher education while 20,000-30,000 students are going to Sawa, have you ever thought about this?

            If you read my rage here, it is because of the good wishes for the Eritreans. I cannot be grateful for having this chance while thousands are not having the same chance. And for this, I criticize the PFDJ policy, the PFDJ system because it is against development, against peace. Are you expecting me to serve the dictatorial regime or to be quite like others?

            dear george, you are by yourself a confused one who does not differentiate between a government and a regime.

            hawka
            tes

          • dawit

            PIA in his last interview described those who run away with their education that was paid by Eritrean People meager resources for free as “Thieves”.

          • Kokhob Selam

            ዝገርም እዩ ! ሌባ ሌባ ኣይበልካ :: under which system and what an educated man will work in Eritrea ?

          • Tesfabirhan WR

            dear dawit,

            Your first basic confusion is to repeat the DIA’s words. Are you an Eritrean by the way. We, Eritreans do not worship a man, but GOD. Go on worhshiping your dictator god.

          • Semere Andom

            Sorry Tes for intruding:
            dawit: Actually PFDJ did not educate the like of Tes. Tes and his peers would have been better off if they were paid for their slave labor building the villas of generals maybe yours too and then paying tuition, they would have made some profit. By every comment you obsessively get silly by quoting DIA, a thief and murdered. People like you are danger for the liberty of Eritreans and the existence of the nation called Eritrea, but that doe not matter to you because you are Ethiopian and you can go there, you already hedged your stake
            Sem

          • Guest

            Dude,

            The fact that you would not go back, (chose to be a thief) by itself blocks the way for others to use the same chance you got. So your logic is childish. On top of that the government sent you for further study so that you would come back and be a better teacher and give back more. But what do you do? You choose to be a doormat of lost souls

            Your ignorance is beyond limit

          • Tesfabirhan WR

            dear guest,

            If the government blocks the chance of others because of my choice, this is an indicator of the PFDJ system on how he plays with the lives of others. And this is one of the bad system they have. PFDJ should have known that individual decision is only remains at individual level. They should have respected individual’s rights to make what ever decision s/he makes.

            Remember that after DIA officially under estimated the Eritrean intellectual contribution in South Africa meeting, sending other students for higher education stopped for 8 years (till 2008). Imagine now how much the impact is? And, do you think that those individuals will stop from doing what they have to?

            By the way, no single cent is spend by the PFDJ government to Eritrean students. If you tell me, he is managing, ok, but usually by making a double profit.

            But, I want to tell you one thing, the people has invested on me and I wish I will repay them though I already served my country for 6 years. Do you want to serve more than that? I am not a slave dear guest. remember this.

            tes

    • Hayat Adem

      Can someone help me get the link, (or direct me to the link if it is already posted somewhere) to Aboy Sebhat’s latest discourse on Eritrea?
      Hayat

      • Amanuel Hidrat

        Dear Hayat,

        If you don’t listen yet Ato Sibhat’s interview with VOA, go to AIGA Forum. The two parts of his interview are posted at AIGA Forum, and will still continue…. part-3. I don’t know how many parts will be the interview. In any case the gentleman is not against our independence. He has solid stand on Eritrean independence. Nothing to worry about his position.

        Amanuel Hidrat